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| 00:46.35 | bleeter | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=6760110929&sid=1 |
| 00:49.31 | Drundia | haha |
| 00:50.22 | kd3 | heh |
| 00:50.26 | kd3 | and gah at wine being stupid |
| 00:51.11 | Mike-N-Go | Argent Dawn rep grind is brutial.. |
| 00:51.46 | Mike-N-Go | Going to take 30ish more hours for me to hit max rep, I am currently friendly. |
| 00:53.07 | Drundia | AD rep is still on my todo list |
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| 00:54.11 | Dashkal | hmm, I should log a character out in naxx just to see what happens to him come 3.0... |
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| 01:44.53 | DARKGuy | hey, anybody has got the description item in AceConfigDialog-3.0 with an image working ? |
| 01:45.34 | Keias | quick question |
| 01:45.50 | Keias | Anyone have any suggesting for a mod that you can move things like default Player Frame with? |
| 01:46.03 | Keias | I used MoveAnything like 2 years ago, but I"m not entirely sure of my options now |
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| 01:46.54 | Lopeppeppy | Fluid Frames is one I hear of a lot. Never used it, but I hear of it. |
| 01:47.12 | Keias | I'll give that a try, thanks for the quick response. |
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| 01:58.14 | Dark_Elf | i thought xperl, perl and pitbull all let ya move the player frame, maybe im thinking of the wrong frame i dunno |
| 02:06.57 | Keias | Wouldn't that be a little counterproductive if I use a UnitFrame Addon to move the default frames that I want to use? :P |
| 02:07.23 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, that's not gonna work so well. *grin* |
| 02:08.27 | Lopeppeppy | KC Mobility or KC mobile or... er... something by that name. |
| 02:13.22 | batrick | What would be the easiest way to sort a table with double keys (not an array) into an array (losing double information, just in order) |
| 02:14.58 | DARKGuy | hey, anybody has got the description item in AceConfigDialog-3.0 with an image working ? |
| 02:17.06 | JoshBorke | an |
| 02:17.16 | JoshBorke | batrick: you mean like, numbers with decimal points? |
| 02:19.46 | batrick | I'm sorting the keys not the values, naturally doubles (keys) aren't going to be sorted when iterating over the table with next. I need to sort those keys into an array keeping order but losing the key's information (the double number) |
| 02:20.20 | batrick | I'm trying to think of the best way to do it via C, although Id' be happy to see a solution in Lua |
| 02:21.20 | JoshBorke | local t = {}; for k, v in pairs(unsortedTbl) do tinsert(t, k, #t); done; table.sort(t); for k, v in pairs(t) do t[k] = unsortedTbl[v] end |
| 02:21.22 | JoshBorke | maybe? |
| 02:21.43 | batrick | someone's been doing a lot of bash coding lately |
| 02:21.43 | JoshBorke | erm, end instead of done |
| 02:22.12 | JoshBorke | hey, i got everything else right :-P |
| 02:22.25 | batrick | heh, i was hoping to avoid having another table made |
| 02:22.35 | JoshBorke | an in place sort? well... |
| 02:22.35 | JoshBorke | ok |
| 02:22.56 | Kaso | done; ? |
| 02:23.36 | JoshBorke | for k, v in pairs(unsortedTbl) do tinsert(unsortedTbl, k); end; table.sort(unsortedTbl); for i=1,#unsortedTbl do unsortedTbl[i] = unsortedTbl[unsortedTbl[i]] end |
| 02:23.39 | JoshBorke | ha! |
| 02:23.41 | JoshBorke | :-P |
| 02:23.47 | JoshBorke | no dones |
| 02:24.13 | Kaso | which language is done from? |
| 02:24.20 | JoshBorke | kaso: bash |
| 02:24.25 | Kaso | ah |
| 02:24.26 | JoshBorke | well, shell scripting really |
| 02:24.32 | JoshBorke | but case in point, bash |
| 02:25.00 | batrick | JoshBorke: my only concern is some doubles already being considered integer keys and thus are already in the arrya |
| 02:25.04 | batrick | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:25.24 | JoshBorke | very true |
| 02:25.35 | JoshBorke | it's better to use a second array in any case |
| 02:26.28 | JoshBorke | because, as far as i have interpreted, by using just 1 table the lua engine will make the size of the one table larger than the sum of the 2 tables |
| 02:28.54 | JoshBorke | ok, nn |
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| 02:51.31 | DARKGuy | hey, anybody has got the description item in AceConfigDialog-3.0 with an image working ? |
| 02:55.35 | Kaso | http://img.waffleimages.com/f393b14970996e20f9cb64807a49d1d96cac4697/PSP_008579_9020_cut.jpg |
| 02:55.38 | Kaso | i love this image |
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| 03:11.49 | Shaone | Can you only use AcceptTrade with a key press or click? |
| 03:12.00 | kd3 | yes |
| 03:12.22 | Shaone | That explains the errors then, thanks. |
| 03:15.01 | Shirik | so, there's a macro that casts mangle if you can, otherwise shifts you out and then back into cat form |
| 03:15.07 | Shirik | er, bear, or whatever |
| 03:15.11 | Shirik | cat! |
| 03:15.17 | Shirik | to get energy for free |
| 03:16.09 | Corrodias | i think that must be for pvp |
| 03:16.15 | Tekkub | must texture files be powers of two? I.E. 768*512 wouldn't work? |
| 03:16.38 | Corrodias | in pve, you'd be hitting Shred instead, i think, if the mob is really important enough to be powershifting |
| 03:17.53 | DARKGuy | hey, anybody has got the description item in AceConfigDialog-3.0 with an image working ? |
| 03:18.04 | Corrodias | i do not know about textures. never got one to work. |
| 03:18.07 | Shirik | Corrodias, I just find it odd that it's possible |
| 03:18.10 | Shirik | but it's pretty clever. |
| 03:18.27 | Kaso | im pretty sure it is limited to powers of two |
| 03:18.31 | Shirik | I fear CancelPlayerBuff() might be protected soon though |
| 03:18.40 | Shirik | Kaso's right, it's powers of 2 |
| 03:18.50 | Shirik | 1024x512 is ok |
| 03:19.05 | Tekkub | that blows, I either have to scale down and lose quality, or up and waste space |
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| 03:19.22 | Tekkub | 512^2 doesn't look *too* bad |
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| 03:22.15 | DARKGuy | mine is 512x256.. |
| 03:22.21 | DARKGuy | still, even with moo.tga it doesn't work |
| 03:23.10 | haste | and you restarted WoW? |
| 03:23.26 | DARKGuy | well I did a reloadui |
| 03:23.46 | haste | yes, taht worked back in 1.3 or so |
| 03:23.47 | DARKGuy | I could try restarting wow and see if it catches moo.tga |
| 03:23.56 | haste | new files == restart WoW |
| 03:23.59 | DARKGuy | however, how do I know if a texture works, other than using kgPanels or something? |
| 03:24.10 | DARKGuy | ah, I thought reloadui was enough :( |
| 03:25.21 | haste | tex = tex or UIParent:CreateTexture() tex:SetWidth(512) tex:SetHeight(256) tex:SetTexture[[Interface\AddOns\myTexture]] tex:SetPoint"CENTER" |
| 03:26.42 | DARKGuy | haste, thanks :) I'll try it later when we finish this ZA raid ^^ |
| 03:26.47 | haste | *continues to watch SWAT Kats* |
| 03:26.51 | haste | np :3 |
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| 03:45.30 | NightHawkTheSane | http://paperconsole.com/ |
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| 03:53.55 | Shirik | (23:52:17) - [notice from NickServ]: Please wait 120 seconds before using REGISTER again |
| 03:53.59 | Shirik | I never even used it :( |
| 03:54.11 | Shirik | NickServ hates me |
| 03:54.20 | Arrowmaster | maybe your fail nbsirc did |
| 03:54.35 | Shirik | hey, nbs-irc is awesome |
| 03:54.47 | Shirik | I think NickServ hates me because I have too many linked nicks |
| 03:54.59 | Shirik | it was like "screw that I'm not letting him link another one" |
| 03:55.05 | Nechckn | or it's just like the rest of us |
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| 05:25.40 | Mike-N-Go | I am thinking of an addon. I forget the name. It does things like, if you press an offensive spell with a friendly target your target, it uses their target. Or if you press a helpful spell that is to be cast on a friendly, and you have a hostile target, it casts it on their target. Anyone remember the name? It does basically the same thing as a macro for what I said, but for most all spells without the need for a macro. |
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| 05:28.50 | kergoth | Mike-N-Go, iirc it was http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6909-MecairesMacrotexter.html |
| 05:28.58 | kergoth | never used it, but i remember reading about it |
| 05:29.03 | kergoth | ages ago |
| 05:30.11 | Mike-N-Go | Thank. |
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| 08:27.57 | Tekkub | http://xkcd.com/429/ |
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| 09:30.48 | wereHamster | um, towel day is over.. |
| 09:35.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've had dreams like that tekkub |
| 09:36.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | lucid dreams where i get sad and pissed that that projection of myself will likely no longer exist |
| 09:38.04 | *** topic/#WoWUIDev by cladhaire -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 2.4.x ToC: 20400 | #WoWUIDev-commits : A place to watch active development of World of Warcraft addons. Multiple Sites' CIA & JIRA bots reporting | Channel temporarily restricted to Registered nicks only, until the spammer goes away. |
| 09:40.32 | Corrodias | CIA? |
| 09:40.35 | Corrodias | gotta go! |
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| 09:59.53 | Mikk | I think we can assume that the spammer has given up by now? |
| 10:00.54 | [Ammo] | don't think so given the fact that he probably still lurks the channels he spammed |
| 10:01.25 | Mikk | oho |
| 10:01.54 | wereHamster | which channels are that? |
| 10:02.04 | nevcairiel | this and #wowace for one |
| 10:02.24 | Mikk | this is still the guy that hates antispam mods yeah |
| 10:02.31 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 10:02.33 | Mikk | because gold sellers need to make a living too? |
| 10:02.42 | [Ammo] | something like that yeah |
| 10:02.45 | Mikk | oki |
| 10:02.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | i missed the spammer |
| 10:02.58 | nevcairiel | not like people that install anti-spam addons would buy gold |
| 10:03.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | what was his name |
| 10:03.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | so i can search it |
| 10:04.44 | cladhaire | well the anti-spam addons |
| 10:04.49 | cladhaire | many of them report the spammer :P |
| 10:04.56 | haste | he spammed #lua also >:( |
| 10:05.04 | haste | he also said he wouldn't do it anymore there |
| 10:05.14 | nevcairiel | you talked to him? |
| 10:05.19 | cladhaire | yeah we had a long conversation |
| 10:05.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh i see hrm |
| 10:05.26 | cladhaire | in #lua |
| 10:05.59 | cladhaire | lua_bot should be better with spamming now, has anti-flooding as well as spam/ignoring |
| 10:06.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's like spamming #mirc on whatever server for someone making fun of you on quakenet |
| 10:06.42 | cladhaire | he was following ckknight |
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| 10:06.50 | cladhaire | because ckknight told him to stop bothering Funkeh |
| 10:07.36 | nevcairiel | yeah he spammed #curseforge the other day too :P |
| 10:08.24 | Mikk | erm request kline or something |
| 10:08.34 | cladhaire | Mikk: ... |
| 10:08.36 | cladhaire | they're gold spammers |
| 10:08.39 | cladhaire | they have shells everywhere |
| 10:08.40 | nevcairiel | random spam bots |
| 10:08.50 | nevcairiel | Mikk has never been spammed by irc bots, i take it |
| 10:08.52 | cladhaire | they're smarter than that |
| 10:08.55 | cladhaire | apparently not :P |
| 10:09.04 | haste | A quick grep on my lua log shows he had over 200 IPs just there |
| 10:09.15 | haste | and he avoided k-lines quite often |
| 10:09.23 | haste | by quiting before the proxy scan hit |
| 10:09.30 | nevcairiel | its probably the same trojans that get them their accoun hacks, install a little irc bot for them |
| 10:09.32 | nevcairiel | or something |
| 10:09.44 | nevcairiel | at least thats how it worked in the early days |
| 10:11.00 | Mikk | ... seriously, he was bot spamming? >.< |
| 10:11.01 | Mikk | gawd |
| 10:11.17 | nevcairiel | anything else is rather pointless |
| 10:11.23 | nevcairiel | you get a quick ban be gone :) |
| 10:11.37 | Mikk | i was mostly thinking that he was channel jumping and spamming |
| 10:11.42 | Mikk | everywhere where ckk was |
| 10:11.43 | [Ammo] | naah |
| 10:11.53 | [Ammo] | he did like 15 joins in a few seconds |
| 10:11.55 | nevcairiel | you should've seen #wowace the last week |
| 10:11.57 | [Ammo] | spammed same line on all |
| 10:11.59 | [Ammo] | and left |
| 10:12.06 | [Ammo] | always on-topic |
| 10:12.23 | Mikk | the noise must have gotten lost in the noise, sry |
| 10:12.31 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 10:12.50 | Matrix110 | dozen of different idents from different countries aswell |
| 10:12.52 | cladhaire | he was using purl and lua_bot to spam as well |
| 10:12.57 | cladhaire | naturally :P |
| 10:13.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | that means he knows the turf |
| 10:13.43 | cladhaire | naturally :P |
| 10:18.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | What kind of BEAR is BEST? |
| 10:19.27 | cladhaire | ask tekkub |
| 10:20.50 | Mikk | hehe |
| 10:21.09 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 11:31.53 | foxlit | Hrm |
| 11:32.07 | foxlit | "You have been inactive for a long time... click the cancel button" |
| 11:32.20 | foxlit | I wonder if I just missed that dialog, or if it doesn't appear any more :/ |
| 11:32.42 | Elkano | "You have been reported as AFK in battleground. Type /afk if you are here." |
| 11:33.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | it was set to 30 minutes last i checked |
| 11:33.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | and if youre rested, autologs |
| 11:33.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | in a rested area |
| 11:34.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | city, inn, etc |
| 11:35.17 | foxlit | Was shatt, so it seems plausable |
| 11:35.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah you got auto logged out |
| 11:35.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's the same as typing /exit |
| 11:35.56 | zenzio | the dialog does appear in Shattrath and other cities/inns, but since there's no grace period you get logged out right away |
| 11:36.26 | zenzio | observed it once when my computer was a bit lagged, the warning dialog was rendered for the last frame |
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| 12:42.39 | Nom- | lol someone has solo killed ony |
| 12:42.41 | Nom- | holy paladin |
| 12:42.48 | Nom- | Knew the day would come eventually :P |
| 12:44.26 | nevcairiel | actually, a druid solo'ed her before |
| 12:44.32 | wereHamster | it wasn't a paladin, it was a druid |
| 12:44.43 | Nom- | I beg to differ |
| 12:45.34 | nevcairiel | http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/05/26/druid-solos-onyxia/ |
| 12:45.53 | Nom- | http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/2378/onykill1sz9.jpg |
| 12:46.28 | Kajas | Hey guys.. what gui element is it that gives you the TreeView Layout (with the expandable "+" icons and such)? |
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| 12:54.01 | Nom- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=6762551097&sid=1 |
| 12:54.14 | Nom- | That's the solo ony by a paladin |
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| 12:59.18 | foxlit | Kajas: wherewhowhy? |
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| 13:00.25 | Lunessa | ... station |
| 13:05.14 | wereHamster | "there was a PuG group" I didn't expect wowinsider to suffer from the RAS syndrom |
| 13:06.01 | Lunessa | RAS? (I haven't had caffeine yet, godamnit!) |
| 13:06.13 | wereHamster | !g ras syndrome |
| 13:06.13 | batbot | wereHamster: RAS syndrome - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAS_syndrome> |
| 13:13.23 | Lunessa | Select your pistol, then select your horse. - PA is genius. |
| 13:15.00 | foxlit | hm |
| 13:15.09 | foxlit | =(DD Wrath+(Idol Wrath+Summary :: Total $Spell Damage)*DDc Wrath)*(1+'+D%' Wrath)*(1+('Crit%' Wrath)*1.03) |
| 13:15.23 | foxlit | I wonder what that 1.03 multiplier is, and why I'm doing that to the crit chance :/ |
| 13:15.49 | zenzio | magic numbers FTW |
| 13:17.26 | foxlit | Well, it's all in the magical program of Numbers, so it's not exactly DECLARE YOUR CONSTANTS material :) |
| 13:19.40 | Elkano | magic numbers reminds me of thisone: http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2008-05-08/ |
| 13:20.29 | zenzio | hehe |
| 13:23.45 | foxlit | Need to manipulate model to fit the data :) |
| 13:24.07 | foxlit | Because right now, model is basically "REALITY IS OVERRATED" |
| 13:24.20 | zenzio | ... so the website we use to register our work hours had this popup the other week, saying that in an effort to be more environmentally friendly they would like us to print our e-mails and delete them from their servers |
| 13:24.35 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 13:24.41 | zenzio | none of us could see the logic. Must have been a stupid way to say "we're running out of space, HALP!" |
| 13:25.12 | foxlit | It presumably costs some amount of energy to store stuff |
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| 13:32.34 | Lunessa | ... printing e-mail is not "environmentally friendly" in any real sense. I mean, let's mow down some trees and cotton plants to make more paper... |
| 13:33.33 | foxlit | You're correct, but your argument sucks. |
| 13:34.10 | wereHamster | as opposed to .. let's mow down some trees to produce electricity to make the energy needed to power the computes |
| 13:34.21 | foxlit | The paper industry has been harassed by that issue for a long time; they are presumably replanting those forests. |
| 13:34.38 | foxlit | As opposed to the server storage industry, which takes electricity for granted. |
| 13:36.17 | Lunessa | my point being that there's nothing environmentally friendly about paper storage vs slapping something off to a tape archive. |
| 13:36.54 | amro | I don't buy it either. it doesn't solve the problem |
| 13:37.02 | amro | use more nuclear power plants and solar energy instead |
| 13:37.45 | foxlit | Lack of experience in storing nuclear waste material for the required number of years; lack of availability coinciding with demand. |
| 13:37.48 | Lunessa | Solyent Green is PEOPLE |
| 13:38.16 | amro | foxlit: true, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't work on that. |
| 13:38.29 | foxlit | Of course not :) |
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| 13:50.44 | Industrial | What is the base spellcrit% I should aim for with my gear for my elemental sham? |
| 13:50.47 | Industrial | http://vashj-eu.warcrafter.net/Xamth\ |
| 13:50.47 | Industrial | http://vashj-eu.warcrafter.net/Xamth |
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| 14:03.37 | foxlit | An elemental shaman without totem of wrath? |
| 14:03.39 | foxlit | LYNCH! |
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| 14:05.18 | mikma | foxlit: pve elemental |
| 14:05.32 | foxlit | So? |
| 14:05.40 | mikma | so what? |
| 14:05.55 | mikma | what part did you not get? :P |
| 14:05.57 | nevcairiel | the totem is the big buff to caster groups, why would anyone not spec that? |
| 14:06.05 | foxlit | Because without a totem of wrath |
| 14:06.11 | foxlit | elemental shamans have no place in pve raids |
| 14:06.35 | mikma | i've seen it happen |
| 14:06.36 | foxlit | (and that is a bit of a nasty statement, but it's true, damage output wise) |
| 14:07.23 | foxlit | Generally, their solo dps isn't comparable to the dps of other casters |
| 14:07.30 | mikma | .. sorry i said pve, i was supposed to say pvp |
| 14:07.32 | foxlit | So they _need_ that totem to bring something interesting to the mix :) |
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| 14:08.01 | mikma | if they have bt/hyjal gear and no totem of wrath, fail. |
| 14:08.03 | foxlit | In pvp, yeah |
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| 14:09.30 | Industrial | im not going to respec just for 1 silly totem |
| 14:09.49 | deltron | totem of wrath is a PvE staple |
| 14:09.50 | Industrial | <3 nature's swiftness |
| 14:10.04 | deltron | ToW > NS |
| 14:10.15 | Industrial | not if I am pvping? |
| 14:10.25 | deltron | yeah |
| 14:10.30 | Industrial | this is my pvp /set/ |
| 14:10.30 | deltron | but if you pve get it :P |
| 14:10.32 | Industrial | pve* |
| 14:11.22 | Industrial | but really, what kind of base crit do I aim for? 20%? |
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| 14:23.46 | Beladona | 40% |
| 14:23.50 | deltron | for elemental? 20+ |
| 14:23.55 | Beladona | is the total you want to aim for |
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| 14:24.29 | Beladona | after 40% the dmg increase per crit percent is less than worth it |
| 14:25.30 | Beladona | I believe the stat weight goes int, crit, hit, haste |
| 14:25.45 | Beladona | hit falls off once you reach 16% |
| 14:26.12 | Beladona | which is pretty easy to hit as a shaman |
| 14:26.20 | Industrial | ok |
| 14:26.30 | Beladona | you should only need 4% total hit from gear |
| 14:26.36 | Beladona | because your base hit should be pretty good |
| 14:27.21 | Beladona | this helps: http://elitistjerks.com/f47/t20914-shaman_elemental/ |
| 14:27.39 | Mikk | 16:26:14 [G] [Theodon:70]: Just lost about 40% of my durability from 1 pull there |
| 14:27.39 | Mikk | 16:26:26 [G] [Theodon:70]: pulled about 70 mobs and 30 of them were spamming PoH |
| 14:27.44 | Mikk | ^ our dear prot pally being silly again |
| 14:30.04 | Beladona | where? |
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| 14:43.00 | wereHamster | what's PoH? |
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| 14:44.37 | dylanm | wereHamster: To me it means Prayer of Healing. |
| 14:45.23 | dylanm | I don't ever press it, being shadow and all, but I know it's there. |
| 14:46.09 | Lunessa | It's the 41 point Holy Talent. |
| 14:46.29 | Lunessa | Sorry... |
| 14:46.39 | Lunessa | That's Circle of Healing. I need more coffee. |
| 14:46.50 | dylanm | I'll go make some. |
| 14:47.54 | Lopeppeppy | I'll drink it all before Lunessa gets a whiff. |
| 14:48.31 | Lunessa | damnit. I need that coffee. It's subbing in for sleep, food and ... other personal needs. |
| 14:49.39 | Lopeppeppy | Oh... well, for me it's only subbing in for sleep, so I guess you get first dibs. |
| 14:53.01 | Seerah | one cup for lunessa, two cups for peppy... one cup for lunessa, two cups for peppy... |
| 14:53.28 | Lunessa | coffee is srs bsns. |
| 14:53.31 | Lopeppeppy | Nah, vice versa. He sounds like he needs more caffeine, and I'm not supposed to have *ANY* |
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| 14:54.22 | Lunessa | I want like... coffee, a cola, and a chocolate cake. |
| 14:54.45 | Lopeppeppy | .... I'll share coke and cake! |
| 14:54.46 | Seerah | mmmmmm |
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| 14:55.04 | Seerah | (you can keep the coffee though) |
| 14:55.15 | Seerah | why'd you go and do that? :P |
| 14:57.35 | Lopeppeppy | Sorry Seerah. It helps me stick to my diet. |
| 14:58.38 | Seerah | I wish I could stick to a diet for more than one day... |
| 14:58.38 | Lopeppeppy | Me too, honestly. *sigh* I despair. |
| 14:59.28 | Cairenn | stir fry! |
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| 14:59.55 | Lopeppeppy | Stir fry is good in one bowl. Cake and coke... not so. |
| 15:00.11 | Cairenn | that's what I was meaning though |
| 15:00.17 | Cairenn | stir fry them ;) |
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| 15:01.31 | Cairenn | morning alestane |
| 15:01.41 | alestane | Good morning. |
| 15:01.51 | Seerah | stir fry the cake and coke?........................................ |
| 15:02.37 | Cairenn | heh, it's working, isn't it? ;) |
| 15:04.41 | Lopeppeppy | Try the Peppy Perfect Diet Plan! |
| 15:04.42 | Lopeppeppy | Eeew. |
| 15:07.14 | Shirik|Work | !g 0xC000008EL |
| 15:07.15 | batbot | Shirik|Work: Copyright (C) 1995-2001 Activision, Inc. This library is free ... <http://www.kegel.com/anet/anet-0.10/src/aeh/win4alt.h> |
| 15:07.27 | Shirik|Work | ok.... fail |
| 15:07.43 | Shirik|Work | also hi Cairenn |
| 15:07.51 | Cairenn | hi Shirik|Work |
| 15:08.04 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik! G'morning. |
| 15:08.10 | Lunessa | stir fried cake with coke sauce... |
| 15:08.25 | Cairenn | don't forget the coffee |
| 15:08.31 | Lunessa | sounds ... sticky. |
| 15:08.33 | Lopeppeppy | No, you'd have to simmer it down to a glace... If I can spell it. |
| 15:09.24 | zenzelezz | woot, both peppy and Cairenn here \o/ |
| 15:09.34 | Lunessa | Nah, just use the fountain syrup. Faster. |
| 15:09.37 | alestane | "Shower Cake? (reads the paper).... ... this is insane. You will not believe the shit that's on here... look at this (shows to Gabe). You can eat this and not die, really? Four Butterfinger bars? Hold on a second here... this is a cake recipe, but one of the ingredients is cake?! (much laughing) Well, looks nice..." |
| 15:09.37 | Cairenn | and Seerah |
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| 15:10.22 | zenzelezz | yeah, but I'm not sure I dare to approach her yet |
| 15:10.31 | Lopeppeppy | Don't forget Seerah. I did once, and she cried. I've felt guilty ever since. |
| 15:10.39 | Seerah | lol |
| 15:11.09 | Lunessa | Channel chock-full of womanly goodness. |
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| 15:11.48 | foxlit | Anything OnMouseMove-like I can abuse? |
| 15:12.28 | foxlit | On second though, I should probably just split the button in two |
| 15:12.31 | Lunessa | You going to call in names, beat it up and take it's lunch money? Or do something more... seamy? |
| 15:12.41 | foxlit | s/,/t,/ |
| 15:13.05 | zenzelezz | I don't mind giving another girl some attention; it's just tedious when they start calling harrassment |
| 15:13.05 | foxlit | I'm currently abusing a single Button widget for several actions; wanted to make sure highlighting works properly |
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| 15:25.34 | Shirik|Work | anyone know what the heck this means? First-chance exception at 0x00412bcc in pb.exe: 0xC00002B5: Multiple floating point traps. |
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| 15:26.08 | Shirik|Work | MSDN has a very nice description "{EXCEPTION} Multiple floating-point traps." |
| 15:26.15 | Shirik|Work | very useful |
| 15:28.04 | zenzelezz | '"0xC00002B5: Multiple floating point traps" means that the execution of an SSE instruction has generated an exception.' |
| 15:28.37 | Shirik|Work | <3 you |
| 15:28.57 | zenzelezz | well, it was a Google for 0xC00002B5... you should've found it :-p |
| 15:29.08 | cladhaire | !g 0xC00002B5 |
| 15:29.08 | batbot | cladhaire: Has casting to int from double changed completely in VS2005 ... <http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=125048&SiteID=1> |
| 15:29.14 | cladhaire | lol |
| 15:29.46 | haste | I actually thought the title of the page had cladhaire in it first |
| 15:29.52 | krka | how embarrassing for shirik :) |
| 15:30.17 | Shirik|Work | I read that page! |
| 15:30.31 | cladhaire | and stopped reading there |
| 15:30.39 | zenzelezz | was result two or three that I found the part I pasted |
| 15:30.40 | cladhaire | considering the 4th google result had the answer that zenzelezz gave |
| 15:30.42 | cladhaire | nub |
| 15:30.46 | Shirik|Work | oh :( |
| 15:31.06 | krka | shirik must always use "i feel lucky" :) |
| 15:31.12 | zenzelezz | hehe |
| 15:31.15 | Shirik|Work | :P |
| 15:31.25 | Seerah | you can sing it to the "I feel pretty" song :) |
| 15:31.36 | Shirik|Work | I don't usually use microsoft's __try/__except |
| 15:31.38 | Shirik|Work | kinda new to it :/ |
| 15:31.53 | Lunessa | I feel lucky, oh so lucky and witty and gay! |
| 15:32.16 | Lunessa | Yeah, not really going to sing that out loud. |
| 15:32.22 | Seerah | you just did |
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| 15:36.31 | Lunessa | I typed it. I totally didn't sing it here in the office. |
| 15:37.19 | |Jelly| | liar |
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| 15:40.29 | Lunessa | why you gotta be so mean dawg? Why you got to be trippin on me? |
| 15:41.21 | |Jelly| | cause g, you be clownin' |
| 15:41.32 | |Jelly| | s/cause/suz/ |
| 15:41.42 | |Jelly| | what ... ever |
| 15:42.05 | Seerah | suz? |
| 15:42.10 | |Jelly| | shhhh |
| 15:42.11 | Lunessa | cuz |
| 15:42.16 | |Jelly| | that's ghetto nerd talk |
| 15:42.20 | Seerah | rofl |
| 15:42.31 | Lunessa | woid |
| 15:42.41 | Seerah | my dog came over to see what I was laughing about :P |
| 15:44.19 | Lunessa | awww... puppies! |
| 15:45.31 | |Jelly| | sure are tasty |
| 15:45.55 | |Jelly| | wait. what? |
| 15:46.03 | |Jelly| | don't be mad that I tried to log ur keyz! |
| 15:46.13 | kamdis | I'm mad about you eating puppies. |
| 15:46.22 | kamdis | don't eat the puppies! |
| 15:46.30 | |Jelly| | oh |
| 15:46.33 | Cide | devour them instead |
| 15:46.34 | |Jelly| | but they're tasty! |
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| 15:46.50 | kamdis | You stay away from my puppy! |
| 15:46.56 | kamdis | My puppy. Mine. |
| 15:47.04 | Seerah | http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a117/Seerah/Ryan/Bruiser/Bruiser013.jpg |
| 15:47.06 | Lunessa | ... considering that "puppies" is also slang for breasts. |
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| 15:47.17 | cladhaire | PUPPY |
| 15:47.26 | kamdis | uh |
| 15:47.34 | kamdis | that's news to me. |
| 15:47.37 | Lunessa | Puppy + teddy-bear = cute overload. |
| 15:47.59 | Lunessa | kamdis: You never heard guys say "check out those puppies!" ? ZOMG |
| 15:48.01 | kamdis | http://i20.tinypic.com/24vnwra.jpg |
| 15:48.10 | kamdis | No, I have not. |
| 15:48.19 | Lunessa | ... damn it. Now I want a dog. |
| 15:48.23 | Seerah | I've heard jugs, melons, and other terms |
| 15:48.25 | |Jelly| | YUS! NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM -> http://i20.tinypic.com/24vnwra.jpg |
| 15:48.47 | |Jelly| | Well. I don't know. It looks pretty ferocious. |
| 15:48.59 | durcyn | 'puppies' does not necessarily mean breasts, it's used more as a generic meta-term, if you will |
| 15:49.12 | Lunessa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxIAg-lMd-U |
| 15:49.15 | |Jelly| | way to turn this into a nerd conversation. |
| 15:49.17 | durcyn | but it certainly can |
| 15:49.22 | Lunessa | Probably SFW |
| 15:49.33 | zenzelezz | puppy dogs and pussycats in suspect suicide attacks... |
| 15:51.18 | Lunessa | Seerah: Brusier is a lab/sheppard mix? |
| 15:51.30 | Seerah | lab/hound |
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| 15:55.06 | Mikk | numpties. prot pala with 513 def skill just got crit by a level 56 mob. |
| 15:55.11 | Mikk | liek.. how? |
| 15:57.42 | Mikk | oh hehe the mob popped recklessness :P |
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| 16:14.22 | foxlit | error: 'for' loop initial declaration used outside C99 mode |
| 16:14.23 | foxlit | :/ |
| 16:14.40 | wereHamster | -std=c99 |
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| 16:15.04 | foxlit | What's the C89 version, though? |
| 16:15.13 | foxlit | declare loop indices outside of loops? |
| 16:15.16 | wereHamster | for (int i = 0; ..) is only allowed in C99 (or gnu89 IIRC) |
| 16:15.17 | Zyuu | http://news.curse.com/details/10207/ |
| 16:15.46 | wereHamster | yes, in c89 you'll have to do: int i; for (i = 0; ...) |
| 16:19.21 | Kaso | that always pisses me off, and i always forget do declare outside >.< |
| 16:20.19 | wereHamster | I instead use -std=99 |
| 16:21.34 | wereHamster | ~comfort foxlit |
| 16:21.35 | purl | There, there, foxlit. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 16:21.40 | foxlit | It's xcode and objective-c; I spent about 20 minutes on either in the past, so conforming to whatever the default was seemed quicker than finding out where compiler options were |
| 16:21.40 | DARKGuy | mornin' :D |
| 16:22.15 | foxlit | Found it now, hurray for declarations in loops |
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| 16:23.30 | foxlit | C99 and C89 definitions of long/int differ as well? |
| 16:23.42 | wereHamster | no |
| 16:23.55 | wereHamster | they differ between architectures or compilers |
| 16:24.14 | Drundia | wasn't long 32-bit everywhere? |
| 16:24.25 | wereHamster | if in doubt, use stdint.h and uint32_t/uint64_t etc |
| 16:24.29 | wereHamster | Drundia: no |
| 16:24.34 | Drundia | :( |
| 16:24.48 | Drundia | i thought only int is evil and variable |
| 16:25.12 | wereHamster | see http://www.unix.org/version2/whatsnew/lp64_wp.html |
| 16:25.30 | End | all that is defined is that long is bigger than short, and int is long, short, or somewhere in between |
| 16:26.11 | foxlit | So is there any reason why swapping compiler dialect could've caused "unsigned long" to suddenly become wider? |
| 16:26.23 | foxlit | wereHamster: thanks for the unit32_t note :) |
| 16:26.27 | End | if long was wider that'd do it |
| 16:26.32 | End | :P |
| 16:26.33 | Drundia | oh, hi _int32 |
| 16:26.42 | wereHamster | compiler dialect? |
| 16:26.51 | foxlit | C89/C99 |
| 16:27.01 | wereHamster | no, the size should stay the same |
| 16:27.07 | foxlit | That's what the pretty UI called it, at least |
| 16:27.22 | Drundia | wereHamster, according to link you've just provided it's like no |
| 16:28.52 | wereHamster | foxlit: you're on a mac, right? |
| 16:28.58 | foxlit | Yes |
| 16:29.20 | foxlit | Well, there's a PC next to me as well, but the stuff relating to this code is on a mac |
| 16:29.54 | wereHamster | on mac (or any unix for that matter), sizeof(long) == sizeof(void *) |
| 16:30.06 | foxlit | Ah, I know what I did |
| 16:30.26 | foxlit | I turned on compilation for 64-bit architectures |
| 16:31.33 | wereHamster | that would explain what you were seeing :) |
| 16:33.25 | Kaso | heh the escapist current skin doesnt work for 1280x1024 ^_- |
| 16:33.38 | Kaso | the intel advert is half hidden |
| 16:37.35 | wereHamster | foxlit: if you are printing the integers (printf etc) then you may also want to take a look at inttypes.h |
| 16:42.16 | Seerah|away | darn you, Lunessa - I had that "99 words for boobs" song stuck in my head. :P And I remembered hearing the word puppies in that context! I'm an idiot - Jerry "The King" Lawler says it all the time :P |
| 16:42.40 | Lunessa | PWNT |
| 16:45.49 | DARKGuy | well I have the "Hard like Heroic" song stuck in my head, I can't stop singing it :( |
| 16:46.19 | Lunessa | Everyday I probably use, 99 words for boobs... |
| 16:46.28 | foxlit | I is now the proud owner of a program that creates a PNG of the same size as a BLP image, but only with blue pixels |
| 16:46.49 | DARKGuy | o.O... |
| 16:47.24 | wereHamster | what would be the reason for such program? |
| 16:47.30 | dylanm | Picasso in a turtleneck. |
| 16:47.37 | foxlit | wereHamster: |
| 16:47.57 | foxlit | I wanted to translate something to C |
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| 16:48.03 | dylanm | I enjoy ObjC. |
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| 16:48.21 | foxlit | It should, eventually, actually read the BLP data |
| 16:48.49 | foxlit | But it is nevertheless nice to be able to both read the BLP header and create an image with a pixel representation you can alter |
| 16:48.53 | dylanm | foxlit: Oh! Let me know how that goes. |
| 16:49.08 | dylanm | What's your goal with it? |
| 16:49.08 | foxlit | I have a lua script that does more or less the same thing I want this to do |
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| 16:49.25 | foxlit | I want a QuickLook plug in for BLPs |
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| 16:49.39 | foxlit | Or, alternatively, something that converts them at a decent speed. |
| 16:50.07 | sioraiocht | awesome restriction, makes changing your nick impossible while you're in the room, btw =p |
| 16:50.17 | sioraiocht | if it's from an unregistered to a registered |
| 16:50.50 | Kaso | we dont want +r on, but the spam bots force it |
| 16:51.16 | |Jelly| | So tell me ... what's to special about Button Facade that's sooo much better than cyCircled? I guess I'm just not seeing it. |
| 16:51.26 | Drundia | +r != +R |
| 16:51.51 | dylanm | |Jelly|: You can change some colors, I think. It's nothing groundbreaking. Why do we replace anything that works? |
| 16:52.09 | haste | because it's updated more often, zOMG!1 |
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| 16:52.27 | |Jelly| | I dunno. People are just blowing their proverbial wad all over it and I guess I just haven't seen anything that cyCircled didn't already do. |
| 16:53.18 | dylanm | From a development perspective I think JJSheets wants you to include it as a library. |
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| 16:54.08 | Yssaril | |Jelly|: does the same thing as far as i know but is better implemented so people dont have to work around some of the cycircled quirks |
| 16:55.01 | dylanm | It throws little images on top of buttons. |
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| 17:13.41 | Shirik|Work | sse is too complicated |
| 17:13.57 | Shirik|Work | There is no reason to have this long of a name for an opcode: cvtsi2sd xmm0,dword ptr [axis23] |
| 17:14.34 | cog|work | only one more letter than cmpxchg |
| 17:14.41 | cog|work | e.g. |
| 17:15.06 | Shirik|Work | still too many |
| 17:15.13 | Shirik|Work | I'm used to 3-4 letters :( |
| 17:15.21 | Shirik|Work | I got mad when I had to start using "btfsc" |
| 17:15.27 | cog|work | lern2cisc i suppose |
| 17:15.38 | cog|work | you were using motorola before, no? |
| 17:16.07 | Shirik|Work | that too |
| 17:16.11 | Shirik|Work | btfsc is from pic |
| 17:16.15 | Shirik|Work | but yeah I use motorola too |
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| 17:53.54 | wereHamster | Shirik|Work: why do you need to use sse anyway? don't you have a decent compiler? |
| 17:54.14 | Shirik|Work | my compiler is creating the sse instructions |
| 17:54.23 | Shirik|Work | I just happened across it while I was scanning the disassembly |
| 17:54.30 | Shirik|Work | and I was like "what the hell is that" |
| 17:55.07 | wereHamster | it's magic obviously, but nothing that you'd need to know :) |
| 17:55.20 | Shirik|Work | no, but I'm always curious :P |
| 17:55.53 | Shirik|Work | specifically I wanted to know why I kept getting "multiple floating point faults" and now I know; because it's doing several divisions in parallel |
| 17:56.12 | wereHamster | I once wrote mmx code, was twice as fast as what gcc produced. But I guess mmx is much simpler then sse |
| 17:58.25 | foxlit | cx + 4; |
| 17:58.42 | foxlit | And there was I wondering why my indices did not increment |
| 17:59.02 | wereHamster | '=' expected near '+' |
| 17:59.45 | foxlit | And yet it's a valid statement |
| 17:59.57 | foxlit | but hey, results |
| 18:00.21 | Shirik|Work | my compiler warns you for that :P |
| 18:00.33 | foxlit | http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/6241/testfd9.png |
| 18:00.42 | Shirik|Work | warning C4552: '+' : operator has no effect; expected operator with side-effect |
| 18:00.48 | foxlit | You can _almost_ guess what the icon is |
| 18:01.21 | Shirik|Work | wait, foxlit |
| 18:01.25 | Shirik|Work | don't you use VS? |
| 18:01.25 | wereHamster | foxlit: which compiler are you using? |
| 18:01.35 | foxlit | I presume it's gcc |
| 18:01.45 | wereHamster | add -Wall to the commandline |
| 18:01.46 | foxlit | Shirik: no |
| 18:02.02 | wereHamster | that way you'll get: foo.c:4: warning: statement with no effect |
| 18:02.33 | foxlit | I think my issue is generally that I don't see the real compiler output, but rather look at warnings in XCode |
| 18:02.35 | foxlit | anyway, food :) |
| 18:03.12 | wereHamster | does xcode parse the file itself or does it also display warnings/errors from the gcc output? |
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| 18:14.07 | foxlit | I think it displays gcc output |
| 18:14.17 | foxlit | Seeing as to how you need to build before it displays warnings/errors. |
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| 18:17.10 | foxlit | http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/1705/testir6.png win |
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| 18:20.26 | MentalPower | foxlit: making a blp <->png converter? |
| 18:20.33 | foxlit | --> |
| 18:20.55 | MentalPower | one way? |
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| 18:21.08 | foxlit | yes |
| 18:21.18 | MentalPower | y not <-- ? |
| 18:21.30 | foxlit | y not why? |
| 18:21.53 | MentalPower | y not png --> blp? |
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| 18:22.18 | foxlit | Because, generally, you don't need to go that way |
| 18:22.23 | foxlit | tga is a superior format |
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| 18:23.26 | MentalPower | cursors |
| 18:24.12 | foxlit | Ever wanted to make one? |
| 18:26.01 | MentalPower | wanted sure, needed, not really |
| 18:35.09 | wereHamster | foxlit: doesn't the original image have transparent background (see the black corners)? |
| 18:35.40 | foxlit | Not as far as I can see |
| 18:35.54 | foxlit | It's Interface\Icons\Trade_Alchemy if you want to check |
| 18:36.06 | foxlit | [want to = could :)] |
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| 18:37.42 | wereHamster | can? yes. want? no. :) I believe you |
| 18:38.17 | foxlit | I'd be happy if you ran something I didn't write on it :) |
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| 18:47.03 | cladhaire | foxlit: is this a new version of the code that I'm running? |
| 18:47.31 | foxlit | For some definition of version :) |
| 18:47.52 | cladhaire | i.e. are there bugs in what Im' using? |
| 18:47.53 | cladhaire | :P |
| 18:48.44 | foxlit | Nah, it's just shifting formats. |
| 18:49.03 | foxlit | You're running... lua? |
| 18:49.14 | foxlit | There's also a php version around; this one is obj-c |
| 18:49.32 | cladhaire | haha |
| 18:49.37 | cladhaire | yes, i'm running your lua version |
| 18:50.05 | Fisker- | can you search a svn revision by date? |
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| 18:50.53 | foxlit | You might win something by moving png compression code to somewhere like GD |
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| 18:57.56 | foxlit | The Lua version is probably the cleanest one around |
| 18:58.29 | foxlit | php suffers from its lack of a sign bit and less flexibility in table storage |
| 18:59.23 | cladhaire | so why obj c |
| 18:59.27 | cladhaire | just another language to have written it in? |
| 19:01.16 | haste | <foxlit>s/from.*// |
| 19:01.21 | haste | I fixed it for you! |
| 19:01.55 | foxlit | Well, it's C, so presumably it should be faster |
| 19:02.08 | foxlit | I have a feeling the garbage collector is going to have a field day if this ever runs in batch mode, though |
| 19:02.31 | cladhaire | meh it works fine in batch mode for me.. |
| 19:02.32 | cladhaire | in lua |
| 19:02.44 | Fisker- | haste |
| 19:02.44 | foxlit | sloooow! |
| 19:02.45 | Fisker- | you fail |
| 19:03.15 | haste | <Fisker->s/you/I/ |
| 19:03.17 | foxlit | lua has no native support for filesystem browsing either |
| 19:03.17 | haste | I fixed it for you! |
| 19:03.43 | Fisker- | nope |
| 19:04.47 | cladhaire | uhh |
| 19:05.00 | cladhaire | find / -name *.blp | xargs lua blp2png.lua |
| 19:08.17 | Fisker- | i has better solution |
| 19:08.29 | Fisker- | mark 3500 blp's press enter |
| 19:08.34 | Fisker- | :D |
| 19:09.54 | Fisker- | cladhaire was clearly outplayed |
| 19:10.15 | cladhaire | yeh srsly |
| 19:10.21 | cladhaire | i mean who likes one-liners |
| 19:11.39 | Lopeppeppy | I loves me a good one liner. |
| 19:11.45 | cog|work | goddamnit |
| 19:11.54 | Lopeppeppy | Sorry Cogwheel. *comfort* |
| 19:11.55 | cog|work | i was in the middle of typing "I bet peppy does" |
| 19:12.01 | cog|work | :P |
| 19:13.05 | Fisker- | http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/38922/Fifteen-Minute-Red-Alert-3-Gameplay-Movie <-lol btw |
| 19:13.08 | Fisker- | if you see the movie |
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| 19:13.18 | Fisker- | what a blatant ripoff of the protoss demo at WWI in korea |
| 19:13.39 | Fisker- | they kept repeating "short work" (A similar keyword often used in that demo) even when it made no sense :P |
| 19:13.51 | durcyn | hey, command and conquer is just as much of an institution as warcraft |
| 19:14.05 | durcyn | even if EA got their hooks into westwood =( =( |
| 19:14.32 | amro | warcraft never suffered shitty sequels |
| 19:14.45 | Fisker- | RA3 looks interesting |
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| 19:39.32 | wereHamster | does CC red alert 3 use 3D graphics? |
| 19:40.06 | Fisker- | yes |
| 19:40.19 | wereHamster | it looks amazing.. especially the water |
| 19:40.23 | Fisker- | it's building upon the age-old sage engine |
| 19:40.31 | Fisker- | the one C&C 3 also uses |
| 19:40.45 | Tekkub | Yatta! Zero Punc! |
| 19:40.47 | Tekkub | http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/67-The-World-Ends-with-You |
| 19:40.53 | Tekkub | I've been playing that too :) |
| 19:41.03 | zenzelezz | I used to love Red Alert... then they released RA2 and my interest died |
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| 19:47.33 | NightHawkTheSane | cheesiest trailer, ever.. http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/222607.html |
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| 19:48.55 | Fisker- | wewt |
| 19:48.59 | Fisker- | beyond good and evil 2 |
| 19:49.24 | Fisker- | would be nice if you could buy it on steam |
| 19:49.36 | alestane | Fortuantely that trailer has at least somewhat the feeling of something making fun of itself. |
| 19:50.15 | durcyn | i had no idea video games were meant to be a solemn experience. |
| 19:51.42 | alestane | Did someone say they are? (other than maybe Xenosaga.) |
| 19:51.55 | foxlit | that reminds me |
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| 19:52.16 | foxlit | the daily show's R. Kelly impersonator |
| 19:53.04 | foxlit | [ http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=119424&title=trapped-in-the-closet-pt.-2 ] |
| 19:53.37 | wereHamster | <3 beyond good and evil |
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| 19:56.43 | Kaso | Why is my DNS not doing what its supposed to do |
| 19:56.49 | Kaso | >.< |
| 19:57.05 | wereHamster | dig it, find out |
| 19:58.03 | foxlit | that'll tell you where, not why |
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| 19:59.31 | Lunessa | Office 2007 application demos ftl |
| 20:02.12 | Kaso | wtf is up with my dns, i do "nslookup google.com" at the command line and it says it's timed out yet when i packet sniff the request is anwsered correctly |
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| 20:06.23 | kd3 | opendns <3? |
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| 20:08.59 | Lunessa | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/ |
| 20:12.45 | Tekkub | *cry* it burns! |
| 20:12.54 | Tekkub | Day after eating Chipotle is always painful |
| 20:13.00 | Tekkub | but it's soooooooo good... |
| 20:13.44 | wereHamster | so in short, pain is good? |
| 20:13.51 | kergoth | my stomach is out of whack today, and i went and bought nachos w/ jalipenos anyway |
| 20:16.56 | Tekkub | were, in short... my ass burns, but it was worth it |
| 20:17.58 | MentalPower | TMI |
| 20:18.29 | Tekkub | http://feeds.theonion.com/~r/theonion/daily/~3/299598545/anti_smoking_drug_linked_to |
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| 20:23.13 | Industrial | cd ../ |
| 20:23.15 | Industrial | ups |
| 20:25.58 | Lunessa | Tekkub: From Chipotle? Lightweight. |
| 20:26.30 | Tekkub | I don't handle spicy food at all, Chiptle is the closest thing to mexican food I'll eat |
| 20:30.13 | Lunessa | Wow. No spicy food? I'd die. I need my Thai peppers and my face-melting chili. |
| 20:31.03 | zenzelezz | chili that melt faces in PvP? |
| 20:33.15 | Tekkub | okey, these "forum dragons" are the stupidest thing ever, it's an amazing idea |
| 20:33.44 | Tekkub | get people to click to your page on the guilttrip of "hatching" an image |
| 20:34.15 | Tekkub | it's like social networking meets motherly guilt trips |
| 20:34.20 | zenzelezz | ... |
| 20:34.24 | Tekkub | meets ad revenue |
| 20:34.35 | durcyn | meets email chain letters |
| 20:34.42 | Tekkub | exacly! |
| 20:34.44 | durcyn | die, die, fornicate, die, etc. |
| 20:35.09 | Tekkub | http://www.thanksno.com/ |
| 20:35.39 | durcyn | what, you never read Road Waffles? |
| 20:36.40 | Tekkub | dawha? |
| 20:37.06 | durcyn | old school web comic, man. the apparent source of "die, die, fornicate, die". but now i've talked it to death, so the humor's gone. |
| 20:38.26 | Tekkub | I didn't find it funny in the first place... |
| 20:38.41 | Tekkub | and I usually like implied sex |
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| 20:42.00 | zenzelezz | ... so I'm looking at the OOC channel on my realm in AoC. "lol wow has horrible lore" "in two years noone will play wow" |
| 20:42.03 | MentalPower | Tekkub: that website needs a spanish version :) |
| 20:42.23 | Tekkub | so write em up one, I bet they'll take translations |
| 20:43.12 | Tekkub | two years? I've been out of FFXI for what, three and half? People still play it |
| 20:43.21 | Tekkub | and it's game mechanics make you want to NOT play |
| 20:43.41 | Tekkub | we quit it a month before WoW open beta just on the PROMISE of a FUN game |
| 20:44.09 | MentalPower | bah, the spanish translation of thanksno.com http://www.graciasno.com is already taken :( |
| 20:44.17 | durcyn | zenzelezz: there are three topics in AOC chat: 1. wow sucks, 2. x video card sucks, 3. wow sucks |
| 20:44.24 | Tekkub | www.domono.com |
| 20:44.48 | Tekkub | or rather, domoiee.com |
| 20:44.49 | zenzelezz | durcyn: not true.There's also "how do i reach zelata" and "is wounded child still bugged?" |
| 20:44.52 | MentalPower | Tekkub: parked domains FTL |
| 20:47.04 | Lunessa | Tekkub: EQ (the original) is the same way. "our mechanics are designed to punish you for playing this game, in the hopes that the pain will blind you to the fact you're not having any fun." |
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| 20:47.19 | alestane | Has anyone seen Mankrik's wife? |
| 20:47.29 | Lunessa | I hear she's a real cow. |
| 20:47.58 | Tekkub | yup! FFXI had a beautiful world and story... fuck they had a furry race even (the thing that pulled me in in the first place, before FFXI I didn't play games)... |
| 20:48.02 | zenzelezz | I still remember that as "mankirks wife" from leveling up in the Barrens |
| 20:48.05 | Tekkub | but the game mechanics... |
| 20:48.20 | Tekkub | and the fact that 90% of the story was locked behind 75 levels... |
| 20:48.24 | wereHamster | Tekkub: thanks for the thanksno link, I can very much use it :) |
| 20:49.10 | Tekkub | hrm... need a name for my xubuntu box |
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| 21:01.05 | amro | Tekkub: xubuntu-box? |
| 21:01.13 | Tekkub | aye |
| 21:01.15 | Tekkub | need a name |
| 21:01.25 | amro | that was my suggestion :) |
| 21:01.33 | amro | I'm not very creative |
| 21:01.34 | Tekkub | my "real" ubuntu box is Ziggy, and me virtual one is Lothos |
| 21:01.43 | Tekkub | anyone get that reference? |
| 21:01.56 | Tekkub | come on I can't be the nerdiest here |
| 21:02.08 | cladhaire | at home my main box was "labia" and my laptop was "clitoris". My pocketpc was "suzanne" |
| 21:02.11 | cladhaire | anyone get the reference? |
| 21:02.49 | cladhaire | i'm serious :P |
| 21:02.49 | Shirik|Work | Tekkub: , I got it :) |
| 21:02.51 | Shirik|Work | don't worry |
| 21:02.53 | Lunessa | heh, my Vista box is name Enki and my XP box is named Chango |
| 21:03.27 | Shirik|Work | my desktop is named mpdelbuono and my laptop is named mpdelbuono-lp |
| 21:03.27 | Shirik|Work | I am very creative also |
| 21:03.28 | zenzelezz | my Linux box is "stalin" |
| 21:04.02 | Tekkub | cladhaire, we know that's a lie though :P |
| 21:04.07 | kd3 | meh... my old box was haruhi, this box is narue... the router is traditionally 'cannibis', or will be after I leave wherever that place is |
| 21:04.26 | Tekkub | our server is Shimatta *grin* |
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| 21:07.36 | Lunessa | One place I worked at named a large number of boxes after german WWII generals. Because the admin was a WWII history buff. |
| 21:08.09 | zenzelezz | now that's an idea I like |
| 21:08.56 | Lunessa | We named all our conference rooms after nobel prize-winners. I thought that was a little pretentious. |
| 21:10.42 | Tekkub | bah I still need a name |
| 21:11.19 | Industrial | I wonder |
| 21:11.24 | Industrial | do assist trains work in wow? |
| 21:11.42 | Tekkub | assist trains? |
| 21:11.45 | Industrial | follow the train leader and everyone assists him, he picks out targets and runs by in meelee range |
| 21:11.55 | Industrial | boomboomBOOMBOOMBOOMBOOM |
| 21:12.08 | Industrial | works like a charm in other mmo's |
| 21:12.09 | Industrial | :p |
| 21:12.27 | Tekkub | is that not what people call "Main Assist"? |
| 21:12.28 | Tekkub | :P |
| 21:12.43 | Industrial | yeah but in pvp. |
| 21:12.49 | Industrial | with autofollow |
| 21:12.57 | Industrial | but theres not much group speed buffs in wow so I doubt it will work right :( |
| 21:12.59 | Tekkub | oh, yea taht's what people call "herding cats" |
| 21:13.03 | Industrial | still fun with a few MS warriors |
| 21:13.24 | batrick | Shirik|Work: ping |
| 21:13.46 | Industrial | like, attacking unit for unit works in real time strategy games right? at least better then random group vs group |
| 21:13.49 | Industrial | so why not in wow |
| 21:13.52 | Industrial | ;D |
| 21:14.00 | Shirik|Work | batrick: kinda pong, sup |
| 21:14.28 | Industrial | no chance to heal either with instant 5 mortal strikes or crusader procs |
| 21:14.37 | Tekkub | it seems to me like a more rock-paper-scissors strat would work better... has your rock attack their scissors, your paper on their rock... etc |
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| 21:15.16 | Industrial | maybe 4 rocks can beat a paper :> |
| 21:15.53 | Lunessa | No, The Rock is an Unstoppable Wrestling MACHINE! |
| 21:16.44 | Industrial | wonder if someone ever threw like a pack of papers (still in plastic) at him |
| 21:16.54 | Industrial | *thudd* |
| 21:17.00 | Industrial | dingdingdingding |
| 21:17.37 | Shirik|Work | batrick: ? |
| 21:17.38 | Tekkub | one rock on each corner of the paper |
| 21:17.55 | Tekkub | then you just wait for some scissors to come along |
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| 21:29.04 | Shirik|Work | >>> http://wowi.pastey.net/88569 |
| 21:29.38 | Shirik|Work | >>> http://wowi.pastey.net/88571 |
| 21:29.51 | Shirik|Work | oops |
| 21:29.54 | Shirik|Work | I fail |
| 21:30.14 | zenzelezz | again |
| 21:30.15 | Shirik|Work | >>> http://wowi.pastey.net/88572 |
| 21:30.20 | Shirik|Work | .................... |
| 21:30.22 | Shirik|Work | I giveu p |
| 21:31.10 | Arrowmaster | i have a debian box named hp-sux, it used to be an HP desktop if anybody gets the reference |
| 21:31.49 | Shirik|Work | >>> http://wowi.pastey.net/88573 |
| 21:31.50 | Cide | Shirik|Work: { "foo", "bar", "baz" } (#1) |
| 21:31.51 | Shirik|Work | win. |
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| 21:32.57 | MentalPower | Shirik|Work: should add a sorting function option while you're at it |
| 21:33.55 | Shirik|Work | it's for batrick :P |
| 21:34.04 | Shirik|Work | but yes, that wouldn't be a bad idea |
| 21:34.58 | Kaso | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vOP-slvtg4 |
| 21:35.01 | Kaso | I think this is the cutest video ive seen on youtube ever |
| 21:35.48 | Kirov | http://endgamewowraidinglol.ytmnd.com/ |
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| 21:46.48 | alestane | Do the Blizz forums have issues for anyone else right now? |
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| 21:47.36 | Kirov | yes |
| 21:55.30 | DARKGuy | rofl Kirkburn |
| 21:55.33 | DARKGuy | er, Kirov |
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| 22:03.22 | DARKGuy | ttyl guys :D |
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| 22:30.15 | digmouse | what would be a least of attacking stats like AP and crit for a hunter to start arena? |
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| 22:40.17 | foxlit | growl, 4x4 3bit lookup table :( |
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| 22:53.44 | foxlit | Odd question: anyone aware of any DXT5 BLP in WoW? |
| 22:56.48 | foxlit | [correct odd answer: any BC icon] |
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| 23:20.41 | Cide | foxlit: what's the correct even answer? |
| 23:21.02 | foxlit | Any BC icon with an even number towards the end of its name |
| 23:23.29 | Kirov | foxlit - you actually making a correctly working BLP viewer? |
| 23:24.03 | foxlit | I is somewhat done, I think |
| 23:24.34 | Kirov | I was always annoyed that the early BLP viewers didn't just support all .dds types. |
| 23:25.17 | foxlit | Assuming you're not abusing someone's texture decompression library, each one of those types is extra code |
| 23:25.27 | Kirov | or at least DXT1 5:6:5, DXT1 5:5:5:1, DXT3, and DXT5 |
| 23:25.44 | foxlit | Hm |
| 23:25.51 | foxlit | Not aware of 5:5:5:1 |
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| 23:26.26 | Kirov | Most of the old BLP encoders / decoders would read DXT3 and write DXT1 5:5:5:1 |
| 23:26.40 | kd3 | anyone know what's up with the modelviewer website? |
| 23:26.59 | Kirov | DXT1 is two formats, w/ alpha (5:5:5:1) and w/o alpha (5:6:5) |
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| 23:27.45 | foxlit | I presume thats |
| 23:28.00 | foxlit | 's what the depth is for in that case, but I haven't actually been honoring that bit |
| 23:28.50 | foxlit | Haven't seen anything seriously fucked by treating it as 5:6:5 either |
| 23:29.33 | Kirov | I don't think Blizzard uses DXT1A (the other name for it) often. |
| 23:29.44 | Kaso | why are there so many different formats? |
| 23:29.53 | foxlit | They're good at storing different things |
| 23:30.01 | Kirov | I've noticed a lot of graphics programers don't pay attention to the difference, and it's usually just artists clicking the wrong thing when exporting DXT1 |
| 23:30.36 | foxlit | It's playing a giant game of "which one of those can I use to fool you into thinking this actually looks good?" |
| 23:30.52 | zenzelezz | I find it interesting that the main thing that ever came from S3 was the S3TC |
| 23:31.08 | Kaso | howso foxlit? isnt most of the art in game fairly similar what differences justify multipled types of blp |
| 23:31.58 | Kirov | DXT1 - 16 bit color image |
| 23:31.58 | Kirov | DXT1A - 15 bit color image, 1 bit alpha |
| 23:31.58 | Kirov | DXT3 - 16 bit color, 16 bit alpha |
| 23:31.58 | Kirov | DXT6 - 16 bit color, 16 bit alpha (interpolated, ie: smooth) |
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| 23:33.00 | Kaso | interesting |
| 23:33.02 | foxlit | Actually, that might cover the old icons |
| 23:33.03 | kergoth | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2008/5/28/apprehension/ |
| 23:33.40 | foxlit | Kaso: http://www.spirit-dreams.net/ui/notepad/7 |
| 23:33.52 | foxlit | hrm, on the other hand |
| 23:33.56 | foxlit | That's probably not a good idea |
| 23:34.21 | Kaso | whats not a good idea? linking that? |
| 23:34.29 | foxlit | reading that to see the difference |
| 23:34.35 | foxlit | It's too long and annoying |
| 23:34.38 | Kirov | I tend to stick to DXT1 and DXT5 exclusively. (We'll ignore DXN) |
| 23:34.42 | Kaso | it is a little |
| 23:34.58 | Kaso | lua isnt the best lanuage around there for dealing with binary files |
| 23:35.14 | Kirov | I use DXT3 only because DXT1A isn't supported by the engine I'm currently working with. |
| 23:35.31 | foxlit | Kaso: that's a very, very minor issue |
| 23:36.05 | foxlit | can wrap most of the read file calls with a single "give me an n-byte unsigned integer" functions |
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| 23:52.39 | Cairenn | keylogger warning: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16485 |
| 23:52.55 | Corrodias | so... should i click it? |
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| 23:53.15 | Cairenn | it's just the warning :p |
| 23:53.37 | Corrodias | ah |
| 23:53.48 | Funkeh` | i dont think you need R anymore |
| 23:54.04 | Cairenn | I want to leave it on for a few more days |
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| 23:56.44 | digmouse | how can I get the exact information like "Increases damage and healing done by magical spells and effects by up to (%d+)%." in my client? |
| 23:57.02 | digmouse | I need their exact translations |
