| 00:00.12 | bleeter | Xuerian: if you've not installed/run as administrator, I think |
| 00:00.15 | foxlit | There might be, yes |
| 00:00.29 | Xuerian | bleeter: Yeah... wouldn't know, I don't run the monstrosity |
| 00:00.56 | foxlit | ooh, K'j gate opened. |
| 00:00.58 | Hirsute | Aye, the Program Files folder tree is protected such that Vista sometimes *really* puts the stuff you try to put there somewhere else, and WoW doesn't read the FS info correctly to know where to look for it. |
| 00:01.07 | foxlit | And we still can't bloody keep tanks alive at Brutallus :( |
| 00:01.11 | Hirsute | Solution is just to install WoW in a folder outside of Program Files |
| 00:01.57 | Harrigan | I am a she thank you and I just want to install the damn thing but there was a post to view a thread on blizzard with all this stuff about moving folders |
| 00:02.49 | Hirsute | Who called you a he? |
| 00:03.22 | Harrigan | foxlit |
| 00:03.39 | bleeter | Harrigan: If you've installed into C:\Program Files\WoW, just move the WoW folder to C:\WoW, (a) the registry will auto-update next run (b) you've no longer go the application (and therefore addons/saved variables folders) in an area that requires 'administrator' permissions to access |
| 00:03.48 | bleeter | *got the |
| 00:03.59 | Hirsute | Oh, way back there... yeah ^^ |
| 00:04.11 | foxlit | Didn't you hear? he is the english third person gender-neutral pronoun |
| 00:04.25 | Seerah|away | that's they :P |
| 00:04.39 | Hirsute | foxlit: While that's true, and I use it that way, it irritates the crud out of some people |
| 00:04.58 | foxlit | s/third/singular third/ |
| 00:05.10 | Seerah | anyway, there's an additional place to look for "how to install" info on wowi |
| 00:05.37 | Seerah | lemme grab the linkie |
| 00:05.59 | Harrigan | and bleetter I read the post and did not understand it so I don't appreciate the sarcasm thanks |
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| 00:06.07 | Seerah | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14762 |
| 00:06.32 | bleeter | Harrigan: I assure you, any sarcasm you may have read into the words that I typed were not intended at all. |
| 00:06.33 | Hirsute | Anyway, the Vista craziness results from a combination of two things: 1)Really bizarre behavior by Vista that is 100% intentional, and 2)The WoW client's inability to read it. |
| 00:06.36 | Seerah | then again, I just got home and haven't read the conversation |
| 00:06.54 | Xuerian | Harrigan: Don't mind us here, we're not trying to be offensive and are generally a rather relaxed bunch |
| 00:08.27 | Harrigan | so your saying just move my wow folder or if I don't move it use admin access? |
| 00:08.40 | bleeter | yes |
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| 00:09.02 | Hirsute | Harrigan: Yes, the other option is to take ownership of the WoW directory tree, but that's quite a bit more complicated. |
| 00:09.04 | bleeter | I hope that answer's not too condescending for you |
| 00:09.06 | Seerah | moving it is simpler |
| 00:09.22 | Seerah | I have C:/Games/Wow on my laptop with Vista |
| 00:09.31 | Xuerian | c:\games is win |
| 00:09.42 | Harrigan | so move it or don't? |
| 00:09.44 | Seerah | you only have to wait for the files to copy |
| 00:09.47 | bleeter | Xuerian: u r win |
| 00:10.04 | Xuerian | bleeter: I kno |
| 00:10.05 | Xuerian | <3 |
| 00:10.11 | Seerah | get a room ;) |
| 00:10.16 | bleeter | kk |
| 00:10.19 | Xuerian | kk sec |
| 00:10.21 | Hirsute | Harrigan: Yes, move it to C:\ or C:\games, then install your addons. |
| 00:10.33 | bleeter | WTB: [Room].... and [Ensuite] |
| 00:11.00 | Harrigan | and use admin? |
| 00:11.08 | Hirsute | If any addons disappear, you may have to look in "C:\Users\David\appdata\local\virtualstore\program files\wow\Interface" for your old addons directory |
| 00:11.15 | Hirsute | Harrigan: You shouldn't need admin to do that. |
| 00:11.40 | Harrigan | ok |
| 00:11.50 | Xuerian | We're assuming David here is your username |
| 00:11.58 | Hirsute | Only, the David would be your username |
| 00:12.00 | bleeter | mine |
| 00:12.05 | Hirsute | Thanks, Xuerian |
| 00:12.34 | Xuerian | :p |
| 00:14.41 | Harrigan | for some reason the username is the name of my puter but that's only because I had GeekSquad install it and only because I am physically chhallenged and can't istall most hardware |
| 00:15.14 | bleeter | that sounds like a vista 'default' if there's only one user of the computer |
| 00:15.19 | Seerah | I'm usually mentally challenged when it comes to hardware :) |
| 00:15.28 | bleeter | or the person who did the install was ... uncreative |
| 00:15.37 | Seerah | make hubby do it all |
| 00:15.45 | bleeter | nothing to really worry about, i think |
| 00:15.59 | bleeter | Seerah: oooh, what did you make for us? |
| 00:18.46 | Seerah | the last two Johnsonville Beddar Cheddars |
| 00:19.00 | Seerah | hubby's out of town tonight, so I had to fend for myself :( |
| 00:19.06 | Seerah | nothing too fancy |
| 00:19.10 | bleeter | mmm cheese.. any crackers? |
| 00:19.15 | Seerah | oh! and I have some Harvest Cheddar sun chips |
| 00:19.28 | Harrigan | ok going to d/l and install, what's the whole hubub about archeologist and the other addon not working do I need to be concered about those if I have never used Cosmos before |
| 00:19.28 | Lopeppeppy | I had tater tots! |
| 00:19.29 | bleeter | crackers? no? :'( |
| 00:19.43 | Seerah | they're cheesy sausage dogs |
| 00:20.02 | Seerah | mmm tater tots! |
| 00:20.09 | Seerah | we have some in the freezer :) |
| 00:21.16 | Seerah | Harrigan: I haven't used Cosmos myself, sorry |
| 00:22.17 | Lopeppeppy | I went with comfort foods, I'm getting a cold. Again!! |
| 00:22.32 | bleeter | Harrigan: if moving the wow folder, or running the game as admin, doesn't help the addon probs... idling for some time until AnduinLothar becomes active might be beneficial, he knows cosmos stuffs |
| 00:23.03 | Harrigan | I am having a frozen Charlseton Chew before bed tonight... |
| 00:23.31 | bleeter | oO wossat? |
| 00:24.06 | bleeter | you strange northern hemisphere foods... some times dunno whether I should eat it or ... hmm... nm |
| 00:24.12 | Harrigan | are you american bleeter? |
| 00:24.19 | bleeter | Harrigan: not in the slightest |
| 00:24.52 | Harrigan | are you british? I love brit food? |
| 00:24.53 | bleeter | I thought the accent gave it away >< |
| 00:24.58 | bleeter | :9 |
| 00:25.01 | bleeter | :( |
| 00:25.03 | Kaso | Charleston Chew is a candy bar consisting of flavored taffy covered in imitation chocolate. |
| 00:25.08 | Kaso | "imitation chocolate" ?! |
| 00:25.21 | Kaso | imitation? is the real thing too expensive or something? |
| 00:25.22 | bleeter | interrobang |
| 00:26.02 | Harrigan | and they are amazing when they are frozen!!!!!! |
| 00:26.03 | bleeter | anyone know if there's a keyboard with the interrobang as an extra key? I'd buy it |
| 00:26.14 | Kaso | interrobang should be in ISO8859-1 imo |
| 00:26.33 | bleeter | it is an iso |
| 00:26.44 | bleeter | I thought.. |
| 00:26.47 | Kaso | i thought it was only in unicode |
| 00:26.54 | Kaso | not any of the ascii codepages? |
| 00:26.55 | Harrigan | so bleeter where are u from? |
| 00:27.11 | bleeter | gnaborettni isn't in UTF yet, iirc, but there is a placeholder for it or something crazy like that |
| 00:27.23 | Kaso | was that supposed to be Kaso? |
| 00:27.33 | Kaso | oh wait |
| 00:27.39 | Kaso | gnaborattni is some charater? |
| 00:27.50 | Kaso | i read gud |
| 00:28.19 | bleeter | Harrigan: I come from the land where beer does flow and men chunder |
| 00:28.33 | bleeter | Kaso: gnaborretni is an inverted interrobang |
| 00:28.48 | Harrigan | your German |
| 00:28.52 | Kaso | Unicode is funâ½ |
| 00:28.55 | bleeter | Kaso: intended for spanish language use |
| 00:29.15 | Harrigan | yes? |
| 00:29.19 | bleeter | no |
| 00:29.20 | Kaso | damn those spanish people with their upside down crap |
| 00:29.35 | bleeter | Kaso: no u |
| 00:30.22 | Harrigan | oh stupid me...you are australian!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 00:31.09 | Seerah | :) |
| 00:31.19 | MentalPower | ¿¡ |
| 00:31.25 | bleeter | "point exclarrogatif" |
| 00:31.45 | MentalPower | Kaso: ISO8859-1 should DIAF |
| 00:32.05 | cog|fuming | This is the kind of crap i'm dealing with right now :( (naughty language :P ) http://www.cogwheel.info/upload/files/madison.png |
| 00:32.22 | Kaso | true, however utf8 hasnt properlly taken over irc yet so we're stuck with 8859-1 |
| 00:32.26 | cog|fuming | rant inc |
| 00:32.27 | cog|fuming | :P |
| 00:32.31 | Harrigan | AUSSI AUSSI AUSSI... |
| 00:32.47 | Gnarfoz | IRC has not codepage, so it's up to you to just use utf-8 |
| 00:33.08 | Harrigan | Do it bleeter, go on |
| 00:34.25 | bleeter | Harrigan: no, you're not pronouncing it correctly |
| 00:34.50 | Kaso | Gnarfoz, yes, thats the problem with defacto standards, they're not enforced, and even though i'd be lovely to have utf8 for irc as a standard it isnt, and nothing forces the 90% of users using mIRC without unicode support to update |
| 00:34.52 | Seerah | aussie |
| 00:35.02 | Gnarfoz | err |
| 00:35.03 | bleeter | dammnit, why I can't I turn on a local news service and NOT hear about the US primaries aaargh |
| 00:35.05 | Gnarfoz | mirc has unicode support |
| 00:35.06 | cog|fuming | ~thank Seerah |
| 00:35.06 | purl | cog|fuming: no problem |
| 00:35.09 | bleeter | oops soz |
| 00:35.22 | bleeter | Seerah: u r wrung 2 |
| 00:35.27 | Seerah | wrung? :P |
| 00:35.30 | Gnarfoz | every version after 6.1? or so has had it |
| 00:35.49 | Harrigan | oh sorry Seerah, Bleeter..... |
| 00:36.33 | Seerah | honestly, I forget where bleeter's from >< |
| 00:36.44 | bleeter | mummy and daddy... where are you from? |
| 00:36.51 | Seerah | are you my mommy? |
| 00:36.58 | bleeter | freak |
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| 00:37.02 | bleeter | s |
| 00:37.22 | Xuerian | What the heck IS vegemite |
| 00:37.30 | Lopeppeppy | Vegetarian Spam. |
| 00:37.37 | cog|fuming | ha |
| 00:38.03 | bleeter | Xuerian: best I can tell, it's the scapings from the bottom of the vats after we brew beer... turn it into a paste thing, put brown colouring in it, sell it as a spread. |
| 00:38.16 | Seerah | there's such a thing as vegetarian spam??? |
| 00:38.50 | Harrigan | it's this australian spread than I think tastes like salty dirt |
| 00:39.29 | bleeter | Xuerian: prolly something in everyone's culture another considers 'yerk'... personally, I drew the line at 6 moonth old rotten shark |
| 00:39.36 | Gotai | Salty dirt would be like cake compared to it imo |
| 00:39.47 | Xuerian | bleeter: Is one allowed to have multiple lines? I'd put one there too... |
| 00:39.57 | cog|fuming | bleeter: yeah... rotten things are about the only things that will make me break my pledge |
| 00:40.49 | bleeter | don't get me wrong, the whole idea of freezing some shark before winter and digging it out early spring for food when you live in an area that's fucking cold is OK, I get it... |
| 00:40.51 | bleeter | just not me |
| 00:41.01 | bleeter | oops, soz.. lang again |
| 00:41.06 | Xuerian | Technically,t hat's not rotting, then :p |
| 00:41.10 | bleeter | but it IS cold |
| 00:41.18 | Xuerian | Not that I eat shark anyway :p |
| 00:41.28 | Lopeppeppy | Shark is good to eat, for pre-emptive revenge! |
| 00:41.40 | bleeter | polarina knows about rotten shark, I think |
| 00:42.31 | bleeter | btw |
| 00:42.40 | bleeter | toasted cheese and vegemite sammich... yummo |
| 00:43.03 | Seerah | crackers? |
| 00:43.11 | bleeter | could well be crackers |
| 00:43.25 | bleeter | cya cog |
| 00:43.44 | Harrigan | By Hashem Bleeter, no way... |
| 00:44.39 | bleeter | see above re: chundering |
| 00:44.44 | Harrigan | I'd eat roast pig of my on volition before I'd eat that |
| 00:45.14 | bleeter | I'd like to eat tuna unfriendly dolphin |
| 00:45.34 | Harrigan | what does that word actually mean? |
| 00:45.49 | Lopeppeppy | Which word? |
| 00:45.51 | Harrigan | chunder(ing) |
| 00:46.16 | Hirsute-Away | vomiting |
| 00:46.29 | Xuerian | fits with vegemite. |
| 00:46.30 | Xuerian | >_> |
| 00:46.37 | bleeter | beer... |
| 00:46.50 | Xuerian | Not that far off XD |
| 00:47.00 | bleeter | now yer getting the idea... |
| 00:47.26 | Xuerian | Hahaha |
| 00:47.33 | Harrigan | so that word only means puking beer and not other stuff |
| 00:47.34 | bleeter | aussies are such hardcore beer drinkers we eat the vat scrapings |
| 00:47.48 | bleeter | Harrigan: puking anything |
| 00:48.29 | Harrigan | is it really the vat scrapings |
| 00:48.29 | bleeter | though would probably be reserved for carrots and peas type, rather than the semi-drool |
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| 00:49.39 | bleeter | well, it's made from brewer's yeast .. close enough ;) |
| 00:50.19 | Harrigan | oops my b |
| 00:50.31 | Cairenn | ah, the lovely intellectual discussions we have in here ... |
| 00:50.49 | Lopeppeppy | Nice that we're having weather! |
| 00:51.08 | kd3 | thunderstorms are fun |
| 00:51.10 | bleeter | "In America (The Book) by Jon Stewart, Vegemite becomes edible after drinking 21 beers." |
| 00:51.22 | bleeter | fairly accurate statement imo |
| 00:51.24 | bleeter | wb kd3 |
| 00:51.46 | MentalPower | lol |
| 00:51.53 | MentalPower | I'd be dead after 21 beers |
| 00:52.12 | kd3 | huh... we're getting a 2.4.3 |
| 00:52.18 | Seerah | yeah? |
| 00:52.21 | MentalPower | oh? |
| 00:52.27 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968233433&pageNo=30&sid=1#591 |
| 00:52.35 | bleeter | MentalPower: damn, makes me wanna come over visit you even more now ;) |
| 00:53.37 | MentalPower | bleeter: come to BlizzCon |
| 00:53.50 | Seerah | oh, are we getting MP drunk now? |
| 00:53.56 | Lopeppeppy | Yes please! |
| 00:54.01 | Seerah | we'll have to add that to the agenda |
| 00:54.04 | MentalPower | oh dear, what am I getting myself into? |
| 00:54.17 | Harrigan | where is BlizzCon? |
| 00:54.17 | Lopeppeppy | The Peppy and Seerah agenda, MP, nothing to worry yourself over |
| 00:54.23 | Lopeppeppy | California, Harrigan |
| 00:54.23 | Seerah | and Cairenn |
| 00:54.32 | Harrigan | damn |
| 00:54.34 | MentalPower | Harrigan: anaheim, CA to be exact |
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| 00:54.43 | bleeter | MentalPower: we'll see.. my fund is running low. I keep asking quitters for their stuff, never arrives, so stuff all funds :( |
| 00:55.17 | Guest877 | Hey I'm going to be lvling a priest to 70 and was wondering if its more efficiient to level Shadow or Disc/Holy? |
| 00:55.26 | bleeter | MentalPower: then there's the whole problem of if they'd be stupid enough to let a crazyguy like me into the country |
| 00:55.45 | Seerah | Guest877: what lvl are you currently? |
| 00:55.54 | Guest877 | 42 |
| 00:56.11 | Guest877 | I'm Holy atm |
| 00:56.19 | Seerah | used to be that shadow was the levelling spec... not sure how that's changed with patches |
| 00:56.37 | Guest877 | K ty |
| 00:56.55 | Guest877 | I've been gone for about 6 months and was just making sure. |
| 00:57.40 | MentalPower | shadow is still the way to go IMO |
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| 00:58.01 | DARKGuy | ^_^ |
| 00:58.52 | Harrigan | ok guys gtg thanks for the help and info and it was fun and bleeter...back away from thee vegemite, mate! see you guys later |
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| 01:42.21 | Malgayne | join wowwiki |
| 01:42.29 | Malgayne | ... |
| 01:42.32 | Malgayne | ...yeah. |
| 01:42.54 | Lopeppeppy | At least you didn't blurt your password too |
| 01:43.44 | Malgayne | .msg chanserv identify Malgayne LARGEPENIS |
| 01:44.08 | Lopeppeppy | Smexy |
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| 02:11.09 | Drundia_ | EU forums welcome me in Russian :O |
| 02:11.54 | bleeter | .ru support was announced a while ago |
| 02:12.10 | bleeter | strangely enough I went to look last night if they'd actually started supporting it yet, wasn't in the dropdown |
| 02:12.28 | Drundia_ | There isn't Russian forums |
| 02:12.36 | bleeter | o |
| 02:13.00 | Kaso | Aerofallosov is my fav russian word as of recent days |
| 02:13.04 | Drundia_ | just the "Welcome to Blizzard Forums" with language choices changed to "ÐобÑо пожаловаÑÑ Ð½Ð° ÑоÑÑÐ¼Ñ Blizzard!" |
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| 02:21.56 | bleeter | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=6440902525&sid=1 |
| 02:26.00 | Guillotine | >< |
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| 02:49.25 | art3mis | http://www.playrequiem.com/ |
| 02:49.27 | art3mis | ^^ neato |
| 02:49.29 | art3mis | openbeta |
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| 02:49.38 | art3mis | horror/gore mmo |
| 02:53.10 | Tem | lol @ calos mencia |
| 02:53.19 | Tem | "vegitarians are the reason for global warming" |
| 02:53.31 | Tem | carlos* |
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| 03:01.15 | Tem | Anyone got any reccomendations for leveling enchanting from 170ish to 275ish? |
| 03:01.40 | Guest916 | are they going to update atlasloot? |
| 03:02.22 | Tem | maybe, if we're lucky, someone will make an addon that does the same thing without using 50,000 tables to do it |
| 03:02.45 | GOKu | atlas loot, update? |
| 03:02.59 | bleeter | Tem: DE lots of crap? |
| 03:04.40 | Xinhuan | if you have |
| 03:04.44 | Xinhuan | a mage or something |
| 03:04.48 | Xinhuan | go aoe some lowbie dungeons |
| 03:04.59 | Xinhuan | and DE the crap greens |
| 03:06.10 | bleeter | yup, look for the mats you are after, find out what instance drops that, go farm that instance for drops, send the crap to your DEer... place like SM also sell the cloth |
| 03:06.22 | Xinhuan | aren't you a mage Tem |
| 03:06.40 | Tem | Xinhuan, I have a mage, yes |
| 03:06.46 | Tem | but I'm trying to level it on a rogue |
| 03:06.53 | Tem | so I'm gonna go farm something |
| 03:07.07 | Xinhuan | might try AH too |
| 03:07.11 | Xinhuan | to buy the lowbie greens to DE |
| 03:07.19 | Tem | aoeing lowbie dungeons is a pain in the ass now because of the aoe damage cap |
| 03:07.38 | Xinhuan | its not that bad |
| 03:07.49 | Tem | it used to be fun to agro all of the deadmines and then aoe them all down such that there wasn't enough room for all the numbers on your screen |
| 03:07.58 | bleeter | yeah, you can tune auctioneer/btmscan/enchantrix to work out the best AH DE deals so to speak |
| 03:08.02 | Tem | but it takes 10x longer now |
| 03:08.18 | Tem | bleeter, that'd be true if I would keep a good AH scan |
| 03:09.38 | bleeter | Tem: not really if you're skilling up, I think. If you're looking to sell into the market, sure. But if you're looking at buying mats you can see what today's prices are, tune it accordingly and run it over see what pops up |
| 03:10.05 | bleeter | *looking at buying greens for DE mats |
| 03:10.12 | Tem | ah good point |
| 03:10.18 | Tem | I think I'd rather just farm it anyway |
| 03:10.24 | bleeter | yeah, more fun ;) |
| 03:10.33 | Tem | I don't want to spend much money on this |
| 03:10.53 | Tem | (if any at all) |
| 03:11.02 | Xinhuan | i thought there was another loot browser around that wasn't atlasloot |
| 03:11.03 | Tem | the rogue I'm on is practically out of gold |
| 03:11.25 | Tem | Xinhuan, there probably is considering how scary the innards are |
| 03:11.33 | Tem | but I don't know about it |
| 03:11.58 | Tem | crap lol |
| 03:12.05 | Tem | I need something to waste these enchants on |
| 03:12.12 | Xinhuan | buy a crap item |
| 03:12.17 | Xinhuan | from vendor or AH |
| 03:12.31 | bleeter | find a tailor |
| 03:12.40 | bleeter | and a crap shield |
| 03:12.47 | bleeter | that's all you need to lvl ench |
| 03:13.04 | Tem | AH |
| 03:13.08 | bleeter | tho, do need to change crap shield to mostly crap shield at a certain skill lvl |
| 03:13.10 | Tem | 35s for seer's cuffs |
| 03:13.32 | Xinhuan | actually looking at how the data is stored in AtlasLoot, i don't think any other addon could have done it better (i mean in terms of storing the needed item's data, not the code) |
| 03:13.46 | Xinhuan | its one table per item |
| 03:13.49 | bleeter | Tem: also, don't vendor to much stuff while farming. keep crap greys for enchs |
| 03:13.54 | bleeter | or whites.. w/e |
| 03:14.09 | Tem | grr! |
| 03:14.16 | Tem | he doesn't even have the rod |
| 03:18.00 | Tem | He so owes me for this |
| 03:18.52 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 03:19.02 | Tem | My 2v2 partner is on vacation for a week |
| 03:19.18 | Tem | the 2 of us have a "tradition" that when the other is gone for a while, you do something cool on their character |
| 03:20.01 | Tem | last time I went somewhere, I came back with Exalted Netherwing faction standing in front of the guy to start the event for my mount |
| 03:24.14 | Nom- | lol @ the video on worldofraids.com site atm |
| 03:24.26 | Nom- | It's probably old, but I've not seen it before... it's classy :P |
| 03:24.38 | Nom- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzFrLXAYASc |
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| 03:30.52 | Xuerian | "And over there, we've got fluffy..... He's my favorite" |
| 03:30.59 | bleeter | Nom-: nice find |
| 03:32.39 | Xuerian | That was actually pretty funny |
| 03:32.40 | Xuerian | XD |
| 03:34.55 | Nom- | I thought so :D |
| 03:35.05 | Nom- | "And over here's my epic mounts" |
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| 03:52.43 | DARKGuy | LOL @ youtube video |
| 03:52.55 | DARKGuy | funniest wow vid I've ever seen |
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| 03:54.54 | Shadowed | Anyone happen to be using Vista? Trying to fix a zip bug with the wowi uploader but need someone with Vista to test it |
| 03:59.24 | Shadowed | hrm, nevermind I guess actually |
| 04:02.12 | DARKGuy | GFT, yay! what does it do? :o |
| 04:04.11 | GFT | umm it's a 2 part addon, but it's caleld "EasyBuyout" |
| 04:04.24 | GFT | basically you can right click on an auction, and it buys it out with no confirmation |
| 04:04.36 | DARKGuy | damn cool |
| 04:04.40 | GFT | i designed this around my alt rogue which buys ore and prospects it |
| 04:04.54 | GFT | so I can now buy ore really quickly |
| 04:05.06 | GFT | i tested it out last night and bought 64 stacks of ore in about a minute |
| 04:06.15 | GFT | the other part is called EasyAuctionSum |
| 04:06.36 | GFT | where there is a button on your own acuctions window that you can hit, and it calculates all of your auctions that you have up and gives you total bid/buyout for it |
| 04:07.00 | DARKGuy | hey pretty nice |
| 04:07.10 | DARKGuy | is there any way you can also do bid with double left click? |
| 04:07.52 | GFT | hmm.. never thought of that :o |
| 04:08.08 | DARKGuy | I sometimes double click the item in mistake |
| 04:08.11 | DARKGuy | thinking it would bid |
| 04:08.11 | DARKGuy | :P |
| 04:08.23 | GFT | well I eventually want it to be a shift+rightclick to buyout |
| 04:08.30 | GFT | to prevent an accidentle right click |
| 04:08.36 | DARKGuy | good idea |
| 04:11.27 | Seerah | lol: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kgg9fQwY-0Q&feature=related |
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| 04:28.31 | Seerah | and look what I found: http://mmovie.voig.com/ |
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| 04:39.44 | Xuerian | Hahaha. |
| 04:44.15 | Xuerian | Seerah: ROFL at the second one |
| 04:44.41 | Seerah | that was the first 10 minutes of the official movie |
| 04:45.35 | Xuerian | i was rofl'ing irl in the first 30 seconds |
| 04:45.53 | Seerah | me too :) |
| 04:46.01 | Fisker- | i yawned |
| 04:46.19 | Xuerian | Fisker-: I was going to say sucked, but both require opening your mouth |
| 04:46.21 | Xuerian | i'll settle for it |
| 04:46.22 | Seerah | ~whaleslap Fisker- |
| 04:46.23 | purl | ACTION beats Fisker- upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 04:46.51 | Fisker- | <-too 1337 |
| 04:46.58 | Fisker- | to* |
| 04:47.31 | Seerah | no, I think you wanted the first one :P |
| 04:48.06 | Seerah | ~fail Fisker- |
| 04:48.06 | purl | Fisker-: FAIL! |
| 04:48.24 | Fisker- | purl failrah is FAIL, Seerah FAIL! |
| 04:48.24 | purl | okay, Fisker- |
| 04:48.25 | Fisker- | ~failrah |
| 04:48.26 | purl | hmm... failrah is FAIL, Seerah FAIL! |
| 04:48.33 | Fisker- | purl failrah is <reply>FAIL, Seerah FAIL! |
| 04:48.34 | purl | ...but failrah is already something else... |
| 04:48.36 | Fisker- | no u |
| 04:48.40 | Fisker- | purl no failrah is <reply>FAIL, Seerah FAIL! |
| 04:48.41 | purl | Fisker-: okay |
| 04:48.44 | Fisker- | ~failrah |
| 04:48.44 | purl | FAIL, Seerah FAIL! |
| 04:48.49 | Seerah | awww |
| 04:48.53 | Fisker- | teehee |
| 04:49.18 | Xuerian | Excellent voice actors |
| 04:49.46 | kergoth | rofl |
| 04:49.47 | kergoth | [Followup] Obama wins Oregon; Hillary loses 3 oxen fording the river, and 2 members of her party have dysentery |
| 04:49.51 | kergoth | <3 fark |
| 04:51.30 | Fisker- | <-worktiems |
| 04:51.31 | Xuerian | XD |
| 04:51.38 | Xuerian | I used to play that, bahaha |
| 04:53.29 | Fisker- | :( |
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| 04:54.35 | Fisker- | i can live with that |
| 04:55.26 | DARKGuy | hahahahah man that was such a funny video |
| 04:55.39 | DARKGuy | I couldn't stop laughing |
| 04:55.40 | DARKGuy | xD |
| 04:55.48 | Fisker- | i could |
| 04:55.55 | DARKGuy | you have no feelings |
| 04:56.00 | DARKGuy | you're just like Arnold. |
| 04:56.16 | Fisker- | oh well |
| 04:56.18 | Fisker- | work tiems |
| 04:56.24 | DARKGuy | xD |
| 04:56.30 | Seerah | ~Fisker- |
| 04:56.54 | Seerah | ~Fisker |
| 04:57.14 | Seerah | purl Fisker- is Get to da choppa! |
| 04:57.15 | purl | Seerah: okay |
| 04:57.35 | Seerah | ~Fisker- |
| 04:57.36 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, fisker- is Get to da choppa! |
| 04:58.42 | Xuerian | Hahahaha |
| 04:59.52 | Seerah | ~botsnack |
| 04:59.52 | purl | Seerah: :) |
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| 05:03.47 | Drundia | is there a kind of purl manual somewhere? |
| 05:04.38 | clad|sleep | no, thank god |
| 05:04.44 | Seerah | ./msg purl help |
| 05:07.08 | Drundia | what is the lowest player guid you've ever seen? |
| 05:07.27 | Xuerian | one? |
| 05:07.31 | Xuerian | Oh. |
| 05:07.34 | Xuerian | Guid, not guild >_> |
| 05:07.40 | Drundia | i noticed 30A3 - pretty low no? |
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| 05:16.15 | ScytheBlade1 | IT'S COMCASTIC! |
| 05:17.50 | Seerah | morning scytheblade1 |
| 05:18.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Eh, 11:00 at night here :) |
| 05:19.32 | ScytheBlade1 | But the thought is appreciated :) |
| 05:19.57 | Seerah | ~IGT |
| 05:20.07 | Seerah | aww... that wasn't it :( |
| 05:20.11 | Snago | ~ugt |
| 05:20.12 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 05:20.15 | Seerah | danke :) |
| 05:20.24 | ScytheBlade1 | It's also a very sad day when getting internet through your cell phone is more stable than your cable line. |
| 05:20.37 | Seerah | lol |
| 05:21.00 | ScytheBlade1 | I had one tech out here today, who found zero problems |
| 05:21.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Now my modem sits there and just reboots over and over and over |
| 05:21.32 | DARKGuy | haha, that sucks :( |
| 05:21.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Luckily the call center can see that pretty easily, vs. 2% packet loss over 14 hours |
| 05:21.54 | ScytheBlade1 | ("We don't guarantee line speed or quality...") |
| 05:22.33 | DARKGuy | they didn't guarantee an intermitent service, did they? |
| 05:22.35 | DARKGuy | :P |
| 05:23.08 | ScytheBlade1 | They don't guarantee much :) |
| 05:23.23 | DARKGuy | huh |
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| 05:30.39 | Drundia | ScytheBlade1, in this country some evil people damage cable lines quite often. Like copper is very very expensive. The latest theory is that telecommunication companies are sabotaging each other. Wireless internet doesn't have such issues. |
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| 05:34.36 | GFT | is curseForge the developer part where you upload mods for curse? |
| 05:36.12 | Xuerian | Drundia: The problem is that smaller wireless internet companies STILL have to rely on that copper |
| 05:36.15 | Snago | GFT: yes |
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| 05:40.22 | DARKGuy | Drundia, people will end up making towers of people so they can block the wirelez |
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| 05:40.28 | DARKGuy | :P |
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| 05:43.52 | Xuerian | Can't wait till my isp gets fiber to their tower |
| 05:44.34 | GFT | hrm how do I add an addon? |
| 05:44.46 | GFT | do I create a project, and then add a file after the project is created? |
| 05:44.53 | Xuerian | gft: If you mean to curseforge, ask in #curseforge |
| 05:44.57 | Xuerian | But that sounds right |
| 05:45.26 | GFT | well i want it to be available on Curse.com |
| 05:45.36 | Xuerian | Right. Curseforge is the developer side of curse.com |
| 05:45.43 | GFT | ok thanks |
| 05:50.08 | GFT | ok i think i got it |
| 05:50.19 | GFT | you should be able to search EasyBuyout on curse.com and download it |
| 05:51.37 | GFT | hrm or not |
| 05:51.38 | GFT | heh |
| 05:51.39 | GFT | :P |
| 05:51.51 | Xuerian | Sounds like a good addon when you described it earlier, I'm just usually the one doing the selling of ore not buying :p |
| 05:53.26 | GFT | yeah heh |
| 05:53.35 | GFT | well I uploaded a file to the project.. |
| 05:53.42 | GFT | but it's not up on curse |
| 05:53.53 | GFT | do they have to test the file first? |
| 05:54.32 | Snago | GFT: It takes a few minutes for uploads to sync from CF to curse. And I think manual uploads also needs manual verification by an admin |
| 05:54.44 | GFT | ah makes sense |
| 05:54.50 | GFT | best way to prevent virus's and whatnot |
| 05:56.10 | GFT | I will check it tomorrow |
| 05:57.44 | Xuerian | Probably best, I'm guessing most everyone is asleep |
| 05:58.46 | GFT | just hope I did it right |
| 05:58.47 | GFT | :D |
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| 06:13.40 | Kajas | What would cause an EditBox not to enter text as you type..? Pastey: http://pastey.net/88144 I highlighted the segment in question (lines 151-196) |
| 06:15.02 | Drundia | UnitCreatureFamily(<snake trap snake>) == true <= wtf? |
| 06:16.14 | Kajas | That's beyond me.... no clue |
| 06:19.14 | Snago | Drundia: that makes no sense |
| 06:20.57 | DARKGuy | And so, my final UI has ended up like this: http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/461/wowscrnshot052108014733ns3.jpg . I'm happy :) |
| 06:21.14 | Drundia | i could be wrong though, UnitClassification() may return something abnormal for them.... |
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| 06:21.57 | Snago | DARKGuy: UIs are never final :P |
| 06:22.04 | Drundia | i believe i concatenate with false if it's not normal/rare/elite/rareelite/worldboss |
| 06:22.05 | Kyahx | DARKGuy: my opinion, move the Minimap to the lower right |
| 06:22.10 | DARKGuy | Snago, well, for the moment xD |
| 06:22.19 | Kyahx | may as well get everything on the lower bit of your screen |
| 06:22.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Needs widescreen resolution imo |
| 06:22.28 | Kajas | Don't mean to pester, but would anyone be willing to glance at my XML on pastey and see if I did something wrong.. When I go to the edit box, the cursor is there, but nothing I type shows up |
| 06:22.34 | ScytheBlade1 | You also need to repair :P |
| 06:23.00 | DARKGuy | ScytheBlade1, yeah ¬¬; |
| 06:23.00 | DARKGuy | xD |
| 06:23.34 | DARKGuy | Kyahx, hey that looks good - what can I do about the game tooltip though? :( |
| 06:23.47 | Kyahx | Anchor to mouse? :P I hate the default loc |
| 06:24.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Kajas: I looked at it, checked it agains the XSD. Nothing was plainly visible |
| 06:24.08 | Kyahx | or just move it up, above the MM |
| 06:24.45 | Snago | Kajas: I don't see anything wrong either, sorry :\ |
| 06:24.47 | Kajas | Thanks for looking Scythe |
| 06:25.07 | Kajas | Thanks Snago.. guess I'll just leave the EditBox out :\ |
| 06:25.28 | DARKGuy | Well autofocus is false o.O |
| 06:25.53 | DARKGuy | though I've never used editboxes xD |
| 06:25.55 | Kajas | Yeah. I don't want it to grab the cursor as soon as it opens. When I click in it to type, the cursor is there. When I type, no text is shown |
| 06:26.11 | ScytheBlade1 | ... hahahaha |
| 06:26.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Kajas: typo. |
| 06:26.23 | Kajas | ..... tell me you're joking |
| 06:26.26 | DARKGuy | LOL |
| 06:26.27 | ScytheBlade1 | <EditBox name="LottoSetup_EditBox" letters="80" enableMouse="true" autoFocus="false" enableKeybard="true"> |
| 06:26.28 | DARKGuy | true! |
| 06:26.32 | ScytheBlade1 | enableKeybard |
| 06:26.35 | DARKGuy | haha |
| 06:27.09 | Snago | ScytheBlade1 is the winner! :D |
| 06:27.22 | ScytheBlade1 | The XSD does marvelous things |
| 06:29.04 | Kajas | ... okay.. now that I feel tiny.. I'm pretty sure that my slider bar needs texture.... but I have no clue where to get that from.. any pointers? |
| 06:29.32 | Kajas | and.. actually.. I changed the typo.. and it's still not taking text.. going to restart the game instead of /rl |
| 06:29.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Try setting some text in the schema |
| 06:29.50 | ScytheBlade1 | To see if it displays |
| 06:30.39 | Kyahx | any suggestions on a name for a Panel addon? :( |
| 06:30.53 | Xuerian | panel? What kind of panel? |
| 06:30.54 | ScytheBlade1 | EpicPaneler |
| 06:31.02 | Kyahx | Titan / FuBar replacement |
| 06:31.06 | ScytheBlade1 | (Don't ask me. Seriously. Just ignore me.) |
| 06:31.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh |
| 06:31.13 | ScytheBlade1 | I thought you meant like eePanels |
| 06:31.25 | Kyahx | nah, an InfoBar type |
| 06:31.46 | Xuerian | you just mean a panel with information on it. What advantages to fubar/titan? |
| 06:31.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Who remembers the linux app that can be used to valid the XSD files? |
| 06:32.01 | Kyahx | Not Rock based? |
| 06:32.17 | Xuerian | Ok, so you're writing it from the ground up.... |
| 06:32.21 | Xuerian | But what's going to be better about it? |
| 06:32.24 | Kyahx | Well, I want to use LibDataBroker to power the plugins |
| 06:32.37 | Xuerian | Which will make it better because... |
| 06:32.38 | Kyahx | so in theory, any mod could support showing info from the plugins |
| 06:32.50 | Kyahx | or the plugins could be compatible with mulitple panels |
| 06:33.32 | Kyahx | Plus I want to start an Ace3 project, and give something Ace-based that's simple to use |
| 06:34.01 | Xuerian | AGH dragonmaw ascendands can suck my furry dongle |
| 06:34.09 | Kajas | .. *sigh* well.. now even the text cursor doesn't show :\ *abandons EditBox* |
| 06:34.37 | Xuerian | Tis bill, can't hit flight form before I fall off the damn world |
| 06:34.45 | Xuerian | No, I can, I just die anyway* |
| 06:34.52 | Kyahx | Either way -- m drawing a blank for even a working name :P |
| 06:35.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Kajas: protected="false" |
| 06:35.10 | Kajas | ? |
| 06:35.14 | ScytheBlade1 | On <EditBox> |
| 06:35.40 | Kajas | odd.. didn't need that on a prev interface that I coppied this edit box from.. but I'll add it |
| 06:35.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Worth a shot if nothing else |
| 06:36.03 | Kajas | didn't even need the "enableKeyboard=true" on the other |
| 06:36.07 | Kajas | Agreed |
| 06:36.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Also consider font="" |
| 06:37.11 | ScytheBlade1 | (obviously not an empty string, but yeah) |
| 06:37.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Also check logs\framexml.log |
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| 06:41.43 | Drundia | yay, UnitClassification(<snake trap snake>) == "trivial" - new not yet known return |
| 06:42.35 | Kajas | That's what it was Scythe.. as soon as I added the font tag, it showed up. Looked at the original code that I coppied from and apparently I cut the copy/paste short prematurely and missed the <FontString> element of the EditBox. |
| 06:42.43 | Kajas | Thanks for helping me out |
| 06:43.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Sure |
| 06:43.35 | Snago | Drundia: Hmm, I wonder if this has anything to do with the changes to multitarget attacks not hitting critters.. Could you test UnitClassification on a critter? |
| 06:44.55 | Drundia | that function worked like that for ages |
| 06:45.11 | Drundia | for snakes |
| 06:50.44 | Drundia | critters are "normal" |
| 06:51.51 | Snago | ok. Maybe it's for bosses random targeting. They did fix that, right? |
| 06:53.59 | Drundia | concatenating with ((c=='normal' and "") or (c=='elite' and "Elite ") or (c=='rare' and "Rare ") or (c=='rareelite' and "Rare Elite ") or (c=='worldboss' and "Boss ")) gave me "attempt to concatenate string and boolean kind of error for snakes for ages |
| 06:55.06 | kergoth | if they all evaluate to false, then the entirety will evaluate to false. you must not be catching some type of unit. perhaps you want an 'or c' at the end, or .. |
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| 06:58.46 | Drundia | well, yes, i found that snakes are "trivial" |
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| 06:59.57 | kergoth | figured itd be something like that |
| 07:07.03 | MentalPower | Drundia: why not use a table for that? |
| 07:08.33 | MentalPower | someTable = {normal = "", elite = "Elite ", rare = "Rare ", rareelite = "Rare Elite ", worldboss = "Boss " } print(someString..someTable[UnitClassification("unit")]..someOtherString) |
| 07:08.47 | Drundia | that's a good question |
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| 07:09.37 | Xuerian | Had the same question there... |
| 07:09.51 | Xuerian | Typed it all out then figured Drundia had a reason :p |
| 07:11.17 | MentalPower | since I like others to question my code to all hell, I do the same to others :) |
| 07:12.54 | Snago | (someTable[UnitClassification("unit")] or " ") would help you avoid similar problems in the future |
| 07:13.52 | MentalPower | or just an __index metamethod on the table, tho the or " " is much faster and easier to understand :) |
| 07:14.57 | Drundia | i went "t[c] or tostring(c)" for best results |
| 07:15.30 | MentalPower | lua> t = {} return t[c] |
| 07:15.31 | lua_bot | MentalPower: nil |
| 07:15.39 | Drundia | hehe |
| 07:15.46 | MentalPower | hmm... why did I think that was gonna error |
| 07:15.49 | MentalPower | lua> t = {} return t[c] = true |
| 07:15.49 | lua_bot | MentalPower: luabot:1: '<eof>' expected near '=' |
| 07:15.55 | MentalPower | lua> t = {} t[c] = true |
| 07:15.55 | lua_bot | MentalPower: luabot:1: table index is nil |
| 07:15.59 | MentalPower | ah, thats why |
| 07:16.03 | MentalPower | nm me :) |
| 07:16.38 | Drundia | hmmm |
| 07:16.46 | Drundia | hopefully the function won't return nils |
| 07:17.07 | MentalPower | it won't matter if you're requesting a nil key from a table |
| 07:17.16 | MentalPower | it will matter if you're trying to set a nil key tho |
| 07:17.38 | Drundia | indeed |
| 07:17.58 | Snago | lua> local t = {} print(t[nil]) |
| 07:17.58 | lua_bot | Snago: nil |
| 07:19.16 | Drundia | or you could do it my style |
| 07:19.25 | Drundia | lua> print(({})[nil]) |
| 07:19.26 | lua_bot | Drundia: nil |
| 07:19.38 | Xuerian | pwned XD |
| 07:20.20 | MentalPower | eww... |
| 07:20.27 | Snago | hehe, that code can be shortned further... |
| 07:20.30 | Snago | lua> nil |
| 07:20.30 | lua_bot | Snago: nil |
| 07:20.39 | MentalPower | :P |
| 07:20.44 | Drundia | haha |
| 07:22.46 | Drundia | lua> a |
| 07:22.52 | lua_bot | Drundia: nil |
| 07:23.27 | Drundia | theory was correct! :) |
| 07:24.49 | wereHamster | ScytheBlade1: apache has tools to validate xml files |
| 07:24.55 | Nom- | Anyone here playing AoC yet ? |
| 07:25.39 | Nom- | Best XML Validator ever = Firefox :) |
| 07:28.12 | wereHamster | firefox doesn't validate against a xsd though |
| 07:28.22 | wereHamster | which is what ScytheBlade1 wanted |
| 07:30.45 | wereHamster | ScytheBlade1: xmllint should be installed on most desktops as it comes with the libxml2 package: xmllint --schema ??? |
| 07:33.08 | Drundia | argh, when will they fix the silly battleground spirit resurrects. they not only (again) didn't give me pet, but also didn't give me free spells for 6 seconds... |
| 07:33.26 | Zurik | yeah it's annoying.. |
| 07:33.40 | Zurik | especially if your a lock and only have like 1 shard left. |
| 07:33.41 | Zurik | lol |
| 07:35.01 | Drundia | all normal locks farm many many shards in bgs |
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| 07:37.23 | MentalPower | lua> 2^31-1 |
| 07:37.24 | lua_bot | MentalPower: 2147483647 |
| 07:54.33 | ecs | what's the name of a good addon to increase buddy list size? |
| 07:56.36 | Elkano | you can't since it's handled serversite and thus limited in size |
| 07:56.51 | ecs | is there one that adds a secondary one? |
| 07:56.53 | Elkano | at least those tracked with online status and such |
| 07:57.07 | Drundia | new discovery: interrupt effects interrupt spellcasting twice with about standard 0.5 sec delay between them |
| 07:57.08 | ecs | i just /gquit and want to keep track of the friends |
| 07:57.48 | Elkano | there was one that allowed additional, non-tracked entries but it wasn't updated for quite some time iirc |
| 07:58.47 | Drundia | well, that is unless earthshock interrupts aren't in combat log since some time |
| 07:58.50 | ecs | is it just me or does there seem to be alot of unfamiliar names out there on people that seem totally clueless |
| 07:58.57 | ecs | AOC players ebaying their toons? |
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| 08:02.26 | Nom- | Could be... I've been considering getting AOC to give it a try |
| 08:02.30 | Nom- | But I discovered it's not out yet |
| 08:04.23 | MentalPower | what gets Shown/Hidden first, the Children or the Parents? |
| 08:05.55 | Nom- | What came first? The chicken or the egg? |
| 08:05.59 | ecs | the egg |
| 08:06.02 | wereHamster | pie! |
| 08:06.08 | ecs | eggs existed long before chickens |
| 08:06.18 | nevcairiel | but not chicken eggs |
| 08:06.30 | MentalPower | ~lart Nom-, ecs & wereHamster |
| 08:06.30 | purl | judo chops Nom-, ecs & wereHamster |
| 08:06.31 | ecs | you didn't specify chicken eggs |
| 08:06.43 | ecs | or he didn't |
| 08:06.44 | Nom- | but if a chicked emerged from an egg, then it's by definition a chicken egg |
| 08:07.20 | ecs | the chicken or the egg, didn't say it came from the egg |
| 08:07.22 | nevcairiel | maybe some living creature mutated to the current chicken without eggs being involved |
| 08:07.24 | ecs | or that it's a chicken egg |
| 08:07.59 | ecs | it's like asking what came first, the grapefruit or the iguana? |
| 08:08.13 | Nom- | So if I hit you over the head with a 2b4 with nails, are you going to complain because I didn't specify that the nails were in the 2b4 ? |
| 08:08.22 | nevcairiel | anyway MentalPower, i would assume it happens in the same frame, and order is irrelevant .. to be sure you could just set some OnHide's and see what happens ;) |
| 08:08.25 | wereHamster | maybe god created the chicken first and then later decided how it should reproduce itself |
| 08:08.58 | Drundia | MentalPower, only parents get shown/hidden, children get visible/invisible |
| 08:09.08 | ecs | don't bring religion into this |
| 08:09.15 | ecs | evolution ftw |
| 08:09.18 | MentalPower | Drundia: their <OnShow> still gets called tho |
| 08:09.27 | Drundia | it does? :O |
| 08:09.39 | wereHamster | it should |
| 08:10.11 | Drundia | then you probably should check OnShows to find out what gets shown first |
| 08:12.15 | wereHamster | who is maintains wdnaddons.com? Beladona? |
| 08:12.31 | MentalPower | wereHamster: yes |
| 08:13.04 | Drundia | wasn't it wowcompares.com? |
| 08:13.25 | nevcairiel | that domain changes too often |
| 08:13.27 | DARKGuy | Night guys :) |
| 08:13.32 | Elkano | still used to wdn.wowinterface.com ^^ |
| 08:14.28 | MentalPower | Drundia, nevcairiel, wereHamster: Children first for both :Show() and :Hide() |
| 08:14.29 | wereHamster | oh nvm, I thought the zips don't contain UI.xsd, but they do -.- |
| 08:14.31 | Drundia | children get shown first |
| 08:14.34 | Drundia | for show |
| 08:14.35 | Drundia | yes |
| 08:14.37 | Drundia | tested it too |
| 08:16.56 | MentalPower | gnight all |
| 08:17.01 | nevcairiel | night |
| 08:17.56 | Drundia | "sells the most EXPENSIVE gold! R u crazy? why?" <= do you like that one? :p |
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| 08:42.37 | Guest298 | anyone knows how to make the quest for wow addon? |
| 08:43.49 | Guillotine | quest for wow addon? |
| 08:44.40 | Cide | sounds like an epic adventure |
| 08:45.03 | krka | haha |
| 08:45.29 | Drundia | haha |
| 08:45.33 | tlund | Guest298: can you explain what you mean? |
| 08:46.14 | Drundia | Bring 700 Eyes of Some Weird Thingie to Master Karl Tootsie. You will receive: WOW ADDON. |
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| 09:46.44 | Kajas | How do you tweak an edit box border.. in the means of getting the input section off the border artwork. Right now the text starts on the very outer edge of the art.. and I can't locate a command to edge them away without making another frame and nesting the editbox in it |
| 09:49.45 | Drundia | you either move/resize fontstring or texture |
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| 09:53.54 | Kajas | Move the FontString? hmm.. *goes digging* thanks for the tip |
| 10:00.36 | foxlit | sigh |
| 10:00.41 | foxlit | EditBox:SetTextInsets(l, r, t, b) |
| 10:00.52 | foxlit | Kajas: ping |
| 10:02.44 | Drundia | i wonder if it internally SetPoint()'s fontstring :) |
| 10:05.36 | foxlit | Wouldn't be much of a point, would it? |
| 10:05.52 | Drundia | wouldn't |
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| 10:13.49 | Zurik | does anyone know the proper syntax for creating a fontString is? |
| 10:13.58 | Zurik | thier example doesn't really tell you much. |
| 10:14.09 | Zurik | their* (meaning wowwiki) |
| 10:16.19 | Drundia | Frame:CreateFontString(["name"[,"layer"[,"inheritsFrom"]]]) is pretty correct |
| 10:17.22 | Zurik | ok.. so i do it off of a created frame then? |
| 10:18.45 | Zurik | where did you copy past that from? |
| 10:19.58 | Zurik | i've been looking at this: http://www.wowwiki.com/UIOBJECT_FontString |
| 10:21.04 | Zurik | nm.. i'm so tired.. i'm falling asleep.. i'll work on it tomorrow.. thanks Drundia |
| 10:21.06 | Zurik | :) |
| 10:21.07 | Zurik | night |
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| 11:22.13 | Zyuu | http://news.curse.com/details/9981/ if someone missed, new world of raids |
| 11:22.58 | Kalroth | Aw, I read that as resigned :( |
| 11:23.42 | Zyuu | what! |
| 11:23.53 | Zyuu | ill edit :p |
| 11:24.04 | Kajas | How can one change the colors of text in a FontString.. i.e. "You are in" << in green "Shat" << in red. The book mentions using "|" with color codes.... where does one find a color code.. or is it in "rrggbb" format? |
| 11:24.27 | Zyuu | edited it some kalroth :p |
| 11:24.46 | Snago | Kajas: |caarrggbbText here|r back to normal color |
| 11:25.07 | Kajas | what's the 'caa' part? |
| 11:25.16 | Kalroth | color alpha alpha? |
| 11:25.35 | Snago | Where aa is alpha (only ff works afaik), rr, bb, gg is the hex for red, blue, green |
| 11:26.29 | Snago | so ex: |cff0000ffGreen text |cffff0000RedText |
| 11:26.31 | JoshBorke | hm, so with the new curseforge and wowi svn, where does that leave wowace svn? |
| 11:27.10 | Kajas | Thanks! |
| 11:32.05 | wereHamster | uhm.. DnT disbanded? |
| 11:36.16 | Cide | months behind |
| 11:37.04 | Kalroth | Cide called it back in AQ40! |
| 11:37.33 | Kalroth | Do you still raid btw? |
| 11:38.39 | bleeter | JoshBorke: people still use SVN? I thought serial source code control went out the door last century ;) |
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| 11:40.14 | wereHamster | bleeter: svn is easier then git, and if you are the only developer and just want version control it's sufficent |
| 11:40.31 | JoshBorke | bleeter: because git makes sense in EVERY case |
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| 12:53.45 | Mikk | quoting a guildie "bleh, world of raids looks like curse now... ok, scratch that one off my bookmark list too.." |
| 12:53.53 | wereHamster | the xkcd geohashing area is quite large, I'd have to travel to the neighbour country for the meetup :( |
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| 12:54.49 | Elkano | well, it's a whole degree |
| 12:56.06 | Kaso | im trying to understad the application, i assume the red box is the range of people who all will be given the same point by the geohashing function? |
| 12:56.49 | Elkano | well, the decimal part will be the same for all people, so it only depends on the main degrees where you meet |
| 12:57.08 | Kaso | is that a yes? |
| 12:57.37 | wereHamster | a whole degree, that's bigger then the country I live it :) |
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| 12:59.23 | wereHamster | Kaso: all people living in the red box meet at the same point |
| 12:59.31 | Kaso | gotit |
| 13:00.19 | Kaso | my box is over possibily the least populated area it could be >.< |
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| 14:06.50 | klip | does 25 of resil worth 32k honor points? :) there are two different medallions one with 20 resil, second with 45. the first is for 8k and the second one is for 40k. :) |
| 14:07.09 | Tem | but it's purpalz |
| 14:07.26 | Drundia | seeing that honor is pretty much useless otherwise if you have all vindicators/gladiators |
| 14:10.00 | klip | Im fresh 70 without good gear :) waiting for s2 and I have just 39k honor :) |
| 14:10.59 | Tem | don't bother imo |
| 14:11.08 | Tem | only buy the 40k one once you have everything else |
| 14:11.14 | Tem | s/once/until/ |
| 14:11.17 | klip | I thought so |
| 14:11.23 | klip | thanks |
| 14:12.07 | Tem | s/until/once/ |
| 14:12.10 | Cide | wtg :P |
| 14:12.15 | Tem | it's too early in the morning |
| 14:12.18 | Tem | I hate morning |
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| 14:18.27 | DARKGuy | mornin' :) |
| 14:20.15 | Dark_Elf | g'day |
| 14:20.22 | DARKGuy | ^^ |
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| 14:47.35 | Intangir | well i got the new version of MBB off of wowace |
| 14:47.45 | Intangir | but it has the same bug as the old version, i open it, it locks upfor 20-30 seconds |
| 14:47.48 | Intangir | then shows the icons |
| 14:47.53 | Intangir | but half of the icons dont go away |
| 14:48.04 | Intangir | and if i press it again or any of the icons that didnt go away, it locks up for another 20-30 seconds |
| 14:48.24 | Intangir | buttonhole doesnt grab half the icons |
| 14:48.44 | Intangir | and buttonframe doesnt auto close, but otherwise seems to be the best one atm |
| 14:51.55 | Hjalte | Intangir: I just installed MBB today as well, and it's funny because I don't have any problems at all. |
| 14:52.18 | Lopeppeppy | Did you delete old saved variables? |
| 14:54.09 | Seerah | morning peppy |
| 14:54.51 | Seerah | as for minimap buttons that don't go away, that's because they're not named, iirc |
| 14:55.01 | Seerah | or MBB doesn't know their name |
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| 15:04.55 | foxlit | wardrobe addons? |
| 15:09.40 | Seerah | oooh! Hometown ice cream place is up for top ice cream in the country on Good Morning America! Vote for Moomers! http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Springtime/story?id=4878062 |
| 15:10.00 | zenzelezz | so over the last week, two top-end and one fairly big horde guild have transferred off my realm, leaving us with an even worse alliance/horde ratio. I'm not sure if the horde even has one BT-level raid guild left |
| 15:11.03 | wereHamster | Seerah: Service Unavailable |
| 15:11.12 | Seerah | nooo I was just there |
| 15:11.32 | zenzelezz | loads for me |
| 15:11.37 | Seerah | and it still works |
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| 15:11.50 | wereHamster | as soon as I casted my vote .. |
| 15:12.49 | wereHamster | hm.. 'casted' is that a real word? |
| 15:13.01 | zenzelezz | not for what you were trying to say |
| 15:13.03 | nevcairiel | i think its "cast" |
| 15:14.21 | foxlit | Do people use any addons to swap sets of gear, and, if so, which ones? |
| 15:14.35 | [dRaCo] | closetgnome |
| 15:14.37 | nevcairiel | ClosetGnome |
| 15:14.49 | nevcairiel | damn, too slow for doing captitalization |
| 15:14.51 | cog|work | itemrack |
| 15:14.57 | Intangir | Hjalte: what addons do you have |
| 15:15.12 | Intangir | try it with jim's cooldown pulse addon |
| 15:15.18 | Intangir | and ... i dont recall which others are broken |
| 15:15.19 | Hjalte | Intangir: Loads :) |
| 15:15.33 | Hjalte | Intangir: Atlasloot did actually cause me some trouble |
| 15:15.40 | Intangir | i dont have that one |
| 15:15.40 | Hjalte | when used with MBB |
| 15:17.02 | [dRaCo] | /cast [button:2][target=player] spell |
| 15:17.08 | [dRaCo] | what's wrong with that one? |
| 15:17.10 | Intangir | ill run it again tonight and see which ones are not going away |
| 15:17.24 | durcyn | [dRaCo]: [condition1, condition2] not [condition1][condition2] |
| 15:17.34 | [dRaCo] | target=player is not a condition |
| 15:17.37 | [dRaCo] | still? |
| 15:17.45 | durcyn | well, condition/target tokens rather |
| 15:17.49 | nevcairiel | durcyn: both work, just do different things |
| 15:17.50 | [dRaCo] | k, tanks |
| 15:17.51 | Dark_Elf | had error with mbb so i quit using it and went with detached mini buttons :p |
| 15:17.57 | durcyn | nevcairiel: oh? |
| 15:18.01 | nevcairiel | durcyn: yours is "and", his is "or" |
| 15:18.17 | zenzelezz | durcyn: yes, but it probably doesn't do what he wanted |
| 15:21.54 | [dRaCo] | thanks, works |
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| 15:54.21 | bleeter | hmm, anyone see the news that the bot detection software was in the game client and not inside warden this time round, shipped with 2.4.2? |
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| 16:00.08 | foxlit | Hm, so, ClosetGnome |
| 16:00.14 | foxlit | There's no easy way to get a list of created sets? |
| 16:00.47 | nevcairiel | its FuBar Plugin has the info, i bet its easy to get |
| 16:02.00 | foxlit | ClosetGnome.db.char.set |
| 16:02.00 | nevcairiel | hm, it simply iterates ClosetGnome.db.char.set |
| 16:02.05 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 16:02.18 | Drundia | bleeter, what warden? |
| 16:02.21 | foxlit | Found it :) |
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| 16:06.19 | wereHamster | Drundia: you don't know warden? |
| 16:06.43 | nevcairiel | what does warden do these days then? If bot detection is in the core |
| 16:07.00 | DARKGuy | it spies your bum |
| 16:08.17 | Drundia | what warden? |
| 16:08.21 | Drundia | i don't know |
| 16:09.23 | Seerah | warden is the program that ships with WoW that makes sure you're behaving ;) |
| 16:09.27 | wereHamster | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warden_(software) |
| 16:09.48 | DARKGuy | and sends all your data to blizz |
| 16:09.50 | DARKGuy | ... kidding. |
| 16:10.38 | wereHamster | it does |
| 16:10.56 | wereHamster | not all, but it sends data back to blizzard |
| 16:11.19 | DARKGuy | data it shouldn't send. |
| 16:11.27 | wereHamster | hashes |
| 16:12.20 | Seerah | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:12.56 | DARKGuy | "THE GAME MAY (a) COMMUNICATE INFORMATION BACK TO BLIZZARD, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION YOUR ACCOUNT NAME, DETAILS ABOUT THE UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM DETECTED" Well that just means they can simply read all the data from RAM of what I'm using, reading, browsing, and give it to them. |
| 16:13.16 | DARKGuy | I find it a violation of privacy ¬¬; |
| 16:13.27 | nevcairiel | stop playing, then |
| 16:13.29 | foxlit | Did you know that google reads your email? |
| 16:13.31 | nevcairiel | not like you have a vhoice |
| 16:13.37 | DARKGuy | foxlit: rofl, yes |
| 16:13.38 | foxlit | That advertisers read the webpages you read? |
| 16:13.40 | Seerah | and you agree to it every time you patch |
| 16:13.50 | DARKGuy | nevcairiel: I did :p |
| 16:13.54 | DARKGuy | Seerah: yeah sadly |
| 16:13.56 | foxlit | That "UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM" has a meaning? |
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| 16:14.21 | DARKGuy | Well they must have a white/black list of programs to check for |
| 16:14.28 | Seerah | the key word is "unauthorized" |
| 16:15.41 | DARKGuy | hey, I could bot with Excel! |
| 16:16.58 | wereHamster | they do have a blacklist |
| 16:25.25 | foxlit | Ace2 for 100: can I do Ace2Addon:RegisterEvent("Internal_Event", myHandlerFunc); without negative consequences? |
| 16:25.50 | wereHamster | define negative consequences |
| 16:26.00 | foxlit | It shouldn't break its native handlers |
| 16:26.05 | DARKGuy | computer explodes. That could be negative indeed :O |
| 16:26.28 | nevcairiel | you should probably do AceLibrary("AceEvent-2.0").RegisterEvent(youraddon, "Event", handler) |
| 16:26.31 | nevcairiel | just to be save |
| 16:27.04 | nevcairiel | you never know if said addon does :UnregisterAllEvents |
| 16:27.05 | nevcairiel | or something |
| 16:28.39 | foxlit | If what I'm writing doesn't revolve around its own table, may youraddon be nil? throw-away table? |
| 16:29.00 | foxlit | meh, should probably read AceEvent code |
| 16:29.05 | nevcairiel | throw-away works |
| 16:29.12 | nevcairiel | it just needs some table |
| 16:29.35 | foxlit | AceLibrary("AceEvent-2.0"):RegisterEvent(youraddon, "Event", handler) ? |
| 16:29.41 | foxlit | s/youraddon, // |
| 16:30.08 | foxlit | Probably evil in the same fashion as the original scenario |
| 16:30.13 | nevcairiel | that will error |
| 16:30.19 | nevcairiel | to not cause funkyness |
| 16:30.26 | nevcairiel | i think the "self" can even be a string |
| 16:30.32 | nevcairiel | just to namespace your event handler |
| 16:41.03 | dylanm | That's what CBH does. |
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| 16:44.53 | cog|work | crap |
| 16:44.59 | cog|work | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=6440873184&sid=1 |
| 16:45.53 | nevcairiel | Should that guy ring a bell? |
| 16:45.55 | Cairenn | aw crap |
| 16:46.06 | Cairenn | I thought we'd gotten rid of him |
| 16:47.43 | Snago | Who is it? |
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| 16:49.09 | cog|work | Snago: his post history tells most of the story |
| 16:49.18 | cog|work | at least the parts of the story that weren't deleted |
| 16:49.56 | wereHamster | who is Shrig? |
| 16:50.25 | cog|work | wereHamster: his post history tells most of the story |
| 16:50.32 | cog|work | at least the parts of the story that weren't deleted |
| 16:52.26 | Snago | cog|work: He's posted a lot of posts.. Don't find anything special |
| 16:52.35 | wereHamster | is posts are short, but don't seem too bad |
| 16:52.50 | cog|work | hmm... some of his worse ones must've been deleted then |
| 16:53.20 | MoonWolf | i'm reading that and not finding anything to much out of line. |
| 16:53.31 | MoonWolf | nothing epic or memebrable. |
| 16:53.37 | cog|work | guess you had to be there |
| 16:53.57 | MoonWolf | is there a tl;dr version / |
| 16:54.08 | cog|work | MoonWolf: i just found out he's back :P |
| 16:54.36 | cog|work | and yeah, it looks like a lot of his stubborn annoyingness has been wiped |
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| 16:56.50 | cog|work | (he spent a lot of time arguing with people in stickies for instance, so it's a good thing they're gone) |
| 16:57.16 | MoonWolf | well maybe ha has returned a changed man |
| 16:57.18 | MoonWolf | probably not though |
| 16:57.49 | nevcairiel | people dont change =/ |
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| 16:58.28 | Snago | Maybe he ebayd his acc and it's not really him? ;P |
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| 17:01.25 | cncfanatics | yo peeps |
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| 17:03.12 | Snago | cncfanatics: I'll only say hello to you in one channel, so someone else will have to do it in here :P |
| 17:04.30 | Seerah | morning cncfanatics |
| 17:04.54 | cncfanatics | Snago: no objections there :p |
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| 17:22.13 | foxlit | Sequence: 0, 180, 90, 270, 45, 135, 225, 315 |
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| 17:22.19 | cog|work | wb Legorol |
| 17:22.42 | Kaso | Sequence: 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42 |
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| 17:23.05 | foxlit | Kaso: 108 |
| 17:24.01 | foxlit | I want something to generate relatively distinct yet not entirely ugly colors |
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| 17:24.23 | foxlit | So I was thinking "pick a saturation, pick a brightness; vary the hue and do a HSB->RGB conversion" |
| 17:24.50 | Kaso | That works |
| 17:24.52 | foxlit | Then the question becomes how to reasonably generate hues in sequence so maximize number of distinct colors |
| 17:25.03 | Kaso | want a rgb->hsv coversion code in lua? |
| 17:25.06 | foxlit | Which is what that sequence is |
| 17:25.12 | foxlit | That's the easy part, generally |
| 17:25.28 | foxlit | [could copy wikipedia's recipe] |
| 17:25.32 | Kaso | http://pastey.net/1955 |
| 17:26.20 | Kaso | i use that to make nice rainbow colored text in wow ^_^ |
| 17:27.22 | Kaso | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/lntkaos/FabulousMods.png |
| 17:27.48 | cog|work | foxlit: taste the naimbow does that |
| 17:32.25 | foxlit | http://www.spirit-dreams.net/ui/notepad/16/ |
| 17:32.50 | foxlit | Wonder if one can do that with less looping. |
| 17:33.27 | foxlit | something with lg, no doubt |
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| 17:36.59 | Kaso | the escapist magazine down on a wednesday afternoon |
| 17:37.05 | Kaso | yahtzee rushed |
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| 17:38.10 | Xuerian | oh noes |
| 17:38.22 | Xuerian | What's it on today anyway |
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| 17:48.58 | foxlit | SetAttributes(btn, "type", "ORLFunc", "ORLFunc", OR_HandleClick); |
| 17:49.24 | foxlit | On a SecureActionButton: that should call OR_HandleClick(some, arguments) when button is clicked? |
| 17:51.09 | nevcairiel | i think that was how it works, yes |
| 17:51.19 | nevcairiel | or let me check |
| 17:51.32 | foxlit | SecureTemplates.lua:359-365 |
| 17:51.41 | nevcairiel | ah no |
| 17:51.43 | foxlit | That's not happening for some reason, it's odd :/ |
| 17:51.50 | nevcairiel | it just calls btn.ORLFunc |
| 17:52.01 | foxlit | d'oh! :) |
| 17:52.21 | nevcairiel | local func = rawget(self, type); |
| 17:52.31 | foxlit | indeed |
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| 18:24.57 | foxlit | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/ |
| 18:24.59 | foxlit | pure awesome. |
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| 18:53.28 | Kaso | http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/57-Painkiller finally |
| 18:53.44 | Kaso | Also ++ for yahtzee saying "Niche" properlly |
| 18:53.47 | haste | haha |
| 18:53.54 | haste | so it wasn't only me who have been hammering F5 today :p |
| 18:54.13 | Kaso | yah, i was scared when escapist went offline for a bit >.< |
| 18:54.42 | haste | same |
| 19:01.14 | Kaso | http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/05/21/1818237&from=rss |
| 19:01.17 | Kaso | What the crap! |
| 19:01.23 | Kaso | Did not see that one coming |
| 19:03.32 | wereHamster | it's not april first, is it? |
| 19:03.58 | Kaso | You know i checked the publication date the first thing |
| 19:04.01 | haste | maybe 21th may is the new april first |
| 19:04.45 | nevcairiel | microsoft just wins again :) |
| 19:05.55 | DARKGuy | wow. |
| 19:13.04 | foxlit | miss the old escapist, though :( |
| 19:13.12 | foxlit | articles used to be so much more awesome |
| 19:15.32 | Kaso | foxlit, "Hay guys, this'd be a GREAT day to launch our new format, structure and web player for our site, whatdya think? Huh? Huh?" |
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| 19:16.12 | foxlit | I'm not really referring to today |
| 19:17.13 | foxlit | A year (?) or so ago, they used to use a completely graphical layout with a few textual columns |
| 19:17.17 | foxlit | Was too awesme |
| 19:17.20 | Snago | . o 0 ( I wonder how many people will buy Painkiller now ) |
| 19:17.42 | Kaso | well its $10 on steam |
| 19:17.57 | Kaso | so a few i think :0 |
| 19:18.11 | cncfanatics | its free on thepiratebay |
| 19:19.05 | Kaso | that is true... |
| 19:20.06 | foxlit | Pirate a $10 game? |
| 19:20.07 | foxlit | meh |
| 19:20.20 | Kaso | thats what im thinking ^ |
| 19:21.19 | haste | I would buy it on steam, to the pirate it |
| 19:21.29 | haste | since steam apps usually run like utter crap under wine |
| 19:21.32 | Fisker- | ;_; |
| 19:21.42 | Fisker- | I have to make a XML<->SQL parser for tomorrow |
| 19:21.55 | Fisker- | and i don't even have a SQL server installed |
| 19:22.07 | foxlit | <status>You are screwed</status> |
| 19:22.10 | foxlit | There, convert that. |
| 19:22.18 | Fisker- | fuck yeah |
| 19:22.55 | foxlit | Considering XML is a generic data storage format, and SQL is a query language, what on earth do you have to make? |
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| 19:23.19 | MentalPower | I think he means an SQL dump <-> xML |
| 19:23.24 | MentalPower | XML* |
| 19:23.31 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 19:24.38 | Fisker- | i must say the learning curve wasn't well planned |
| 19:24.45 | Fisker- | day 1: Wuts xml? |
| 19:24.51 | Fisker- | day 2: maek new xml document |
| 19:25.01 | Fisker- | day 3: make a SQL dump <-> XML parser |
| 19:25.04 | Fisker- | ;_; |
| 19:26.10 | Xuerian | Not that bad, unless you have to write the xml parser part of it by hand |
| 19:26.19 | Xuerian | String manipulation is fun |
| 19:26.25 | DARKGuy | true :D |
| 19:26.59 | Wikwocket | you can always take the WTF approach to XML: http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/XML_vs_CSV__0x3a__The_Choice_is_Obvious.aspx |
| 19:28.14 | Kaso | Haha |
| 19:28.15 | Kaso | awesome |
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| 19:31.38 | DARKGuy | LOL |
| 19:31.53 | Snago | wtf idd |
| 19:37.18 | Fisker- | hmm |
| 19:37.20 | Fisker- | wuts dis |
| 19:37.21 | Fisker- | SQLXML? |
| 19:37.33 | Fisker- | do i spot an easy way out? |
| 19:37.33 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 19:39.39 | foxlit | Hrm, it's a hell to determine if the requested hotkey binding actually conflicts with something, and, if it does, which should override :( |
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| 20:20.54 | OOxz | hi all! one quastion" latets version of LUA is 5? |
| 20:20.55 | krka | OOxz: Lua is not an acronym. It is a Portuguese word that means moon. |
| 20:21.15 | MoonWolf | i will kill krka for that thing sometime. |
| 20:21.29 | OOxz | yep i fink so |
| 20:21.31 | Xuerian | Aside from the noob pitfall you found yourself in, OOxz, 5.x is the newest yes |
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| 20:21.43 | OOxz | thx |
| 20:21.52 | Kaso | 5.1.3 is the latest |
| 20:21.59 | Xuerian | ^ |
| 20:22.29 | OOxz | so what lua (free)editor is most popular? |
| 20:22.50 | foxlit | notepad. |
| 20:22.58 | OOxz | smart ass |
| 20:23.03 | MoonWolf | there is no real "editor" used specifically for lua |
| 20:23.03 | nevcairiel | notepad++ |
| 20:23.13 | MoonWolf | ask 10 people and you get 10 different awnsers here |
| 20:23.16 | MentalPower | OOxz: he's being quite serious, notepad++ |
| 20:23.20 | MoonWolf | but you might want to look at scythe. |
| 20:23.40 | OOxz | notepas++, ok sps gays |
| 20:23.53 | ckknight | yep, sps gays. |
| 20:23.57 | foxlit | sps? |
| 20:24.04 | nevcairiel | ~sps |
| 20:24.07 | foxlit | that's not even close to thx |
| 20:24.13 | MentalPower | ~wtf sps |
| 20:24.17 | MoonWolf | or notepad++, or context, or dreamweaver with the highlighter thing, or gvim, or anything that has plaintext editing and a lua highlither. |
| 20:24.24 | nevcairiel | dreamweaver? o.O |
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| 20:24.32 | foxlit | To be honest, I did mean notepad, literary |
| 20:24.45 | foxlit | lua syntax is so straight forward that you don't really need it highlighted |
| 20:24.57 | nevcairiel | its easier to read, still |
| 20:25.09 | MoonWolf | foxlit, it helps |
| 20:25.13 | foxlit | Decent collapsing, though |
| 20:25.15 | foxlit | Now that helps |
| 20:25.32 | [Ammo] | notepad++ has that |
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| 20:25.45 | MoonWolf | nevcairiel, http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7387-WDNSyntaxHighlight.html <- blame beladona |
| 20:25.55 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 20:26.15 | nevcairiel | i even stopped using dreamweaver for html |
| 20:26.30 | nevcairiel | because its so damn heavy |
| 20:26.33 | MoonWolf | i'm no fan of it either. |
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| 20:32.26 | Wikwocket | EditPad is a great editor, it does have syntax highlighting for lua |
| 20:32.54 | Wikwocket | there's a free version of it available, but Pro is very awesome |
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| 20:39.11 | DARKGuy | Notepad++ ftw |
| 20:41.35 | NightHawkTheSan1 | <3's bbedit. |
| 20:44.54 | enum | anyone know if there is an average time length for unlooted corpses to fade? |
| 20:46.13 | Snago | enum: depends on the quality of the loot on the corpse afaik |
| 20:46.40 | enum | Snago: you know where I can find some details on this? I didn't see anything int he wiki |
| 20:49.52 | Snago | enum: I have no idea.. My statement was based 100% on experience and hearsay.. |
| 20:50.26 | [Ammo] | naah, its same for all corpses afaik |
| 20:50.32 | [Ammo] | around 15 mins I'd estimate |
| 20:55.17 | enum | kk, thanks |
| 20:55.31 | enum | trying to create a "loot timer" to keep loots from being counted twice in the addon |
| 20:56.12 | enum | if you look at the loot, collect loot data, and start the timer... if you look at the look again and the time is less than x then don't collect the data again |
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| 20:59.21 | [Ammo] | enum: when you loot you have corpse targetted |
| 20:59.28 | [Ammo] | enum: corpse has the GUID of the mob |
| 20:59.35 | [Ammo] | enum: so no need for timers |
| 21:03.38 | enum | [Ammo]: I'm not just counting corpses |
| 21:03.54 | [Ammo] | you're counting loot on specific corpses |
| 21:04.13 | enum | I'm counting anything that the loot window opens for, chests, harvestables, veins, boxes |
| 21:04.58 | enum | my main problem is that there is no unique identifier for non unit items such as chests, veins, etc... |
| 21:05.30 | enum | so if I have a guis, sure no need for a timer, but if I don't have a guid, then my counts are going to be inaccurate |
| 21:05.35 | enum | s/guis/guid/ |
| 21:06.03 | enum | heh, always freaks me out when that bot corrects the entire line |
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| 21:16.39 | Wikwocket | I thought outdoor chests and veins/herbs did not despawn? In which case there is no "timer" that would work |
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| 21:25.24 | enum | dumb question.. is it possible to remove an element from a table w/ out knowing the position? |
| 21:25.55 | DARKGuy | mytable[element] = nil |
| 21:26.11 | enum | ah, I didn't think it was going to be that simple :0 |
| 21:26.14 | enum | err :) |
| 21:26.15 | enum | thanks |
| 21:26.24 | DARKGuy | me either, learnt it a few days ago, I hope it's the right way but it does the job :P |
| 21:27.06 | Wikwocket | I believe it might leave a nil entry in the table |
| 21:27.27 | Wikwocket | but that may be equivalent to not having an entry for many operations |
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| 21:29.01 | Cide | if you only know the value, but not the index, you need to loop over the table |
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| 21:34.53 | cog|work | enum: http://www.lua.org/pil |
| 21:36.09 | cog|work | chapter 11 in particular |
| 21:42.27 | MentalPower | Wikwocket: they are the same for all operations |
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| 22:07.36 | DARKGuy | brb :) |
| 22:09.04 | foxlit | Xuerian: http://spirit-dreams.net/or/getdevbeta |
| 22:09.23 | foxlit | updated the current zip to 0.2; release notes linked from that page. |
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| 22:13.42 | wereHamster | foxlit: sweep :) |
| 22:13.51 | wereHamster | s/ep/et/ |
| 22:14.21 | foxlit | Generally, website is updated to reflect changes as well |
| 22:14.25 | wereHamster | did you add any new rings? |
| 22:14.43 | foxlit | Yes; http://spirit-dreams.net/or/about |
| 22:15.05 | wereHamster | still no priest, but at least now I can test with the warlock :) |
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| 22:16.56 | foxlit | I don't know what to do for priests, really |
| 22:17.09 | wereHamster | me neither :) |
| 22:17.34 | Zyuu | any rogues here? |
| 22:17.38 | Zyuu | is this a good solo pve rogue build, http://www.wowdb.com/talent.aspx?id=4#efef19e2fe4f3efef3e5de2f2e2f17 |
| 22:17.39 | Zyuu | ? |
| 22:18.10 | Kaso | ask in #wowhead or #wowwiki |
| 22:18.18 | Mal|afk | hahaha |
| 22:18.24 | Zyuu | shush |
| 22:18.32 | Malgayne | You'll get laughed out of wowhead for linking a built on the wowdb talent calc. ;) |
| 22:18.41 | Zyuu | yeah |
| 22:18.44 | Zyuu | I would |
| 22:18.46 | Zyuu | besides |
| 22:18.55 | Zyuu | I dont know rogues very well at all, someone has to here :) |
| 22:19.02 | Zyuu | so before I approve the build, I need feeeeedback |
| 22:19.10 | Kaso | tbh i didnt look at the link but either way, this is a ui dev channel, those are more general wow channels. |
| 22:19.26 | Zyuu | Kaso- |
| 22:19.34 | Zyuu | I'm well aware of that, but all kind of things are discussed here |
| 22:19.40 | Cairenn | ~congratule Cide |
| 22:19.58 | Zyuu | ~slap Kaso |
| 22:19.58 | purl | ACTION slaps Kaso, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 22:20.05 | Cide | ~congratulate Cide |
| 22:20.06 | purl | ACTION congratulates Cide on being a new owner of a $500 brick. |
| 22:20.09 | Cide | helps to spell it right ;) |
| 22:20.21 | Cairenn | details details |
| 22:20.23 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 22:20.40 | wereHamster | 00:18 <+Malgayne> You'll get laughed out of wowhead for linking a built on the wowdb talent calc. ;) |
| 22:20.42 | zenzelezz | now why is he being congratulated out of the blue? |
| 22:20.53 | wereHamster | oops, I didn't mean to do taht |
| 22:23.45 | Cairenn | zenzelezz: I'm female, I need a reason for anything I do? |
| 22:24.12 | zenzelezz | us males know there's always some scheming plans behind your actions |
| 22:24.18 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 22:25.21 | Zyuu | no |
| 22:25.41 | zenzelezz | search your feelings, you know it to be true |
| 22:26.06 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 22:26.39 | Zyuu | Hey baby |
| 22:27.27 | Cairenn | creepy guy alert! creepy guy alert! |
| 22:27.57 | zenzelezz | what, I've been here well over a year and you're only now realizing it? |
| 22:28.02 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 22:28.05 | Lopeppeppy | zenzelezz, the scheming plans are merely that we want to drive you crazy. |
| 22:28.11 | Cairenn | wasn't directed at you ;) |
| 22:28.25 | Zyuu | it was for zenzelezz |
| 22:28.36 | Zyuu | not you Cairenn |
| 22:28.37 | Zyuu | :D |
| 22:28.39 | zenzelezz | Cairenn: I suspected as much, but it was a too good chance to give up |
| 22:28.42 | Cairenn | *grin* |
| 22:29.08 | zenzelezz | three people talking to me at the same time, that must be a record |
| 22:29.25 | Zyuu | It's the z |
| 22:29.34 | Zyuu | I have a special spot in my heart for Z |
| 22:29.34 | Cairenn | okay, that's it, we have to kill him now |
| 22:30.07 | zenzelezz | let my tombstone say "Captain Cookie" |
| 22:31.08 | zenzelezz | I still don't know where the "cookie" part came from, but it turned up in my guild note at some point... originally "Concrete cookie" |
| 22:33.52 | Xuerian | foxlit: Awesome, I'll try it out when I get back |
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| 23:15.36 | art3mis | more people need to play Requiem: Bloodmare Open Beta: http://www.playrequiem.com |
| 23:15.38 | art3mis | its fun! |
| 23:15.40 | art3mis | and perty |
| 23:16.10 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:20.13 | bleeter | raaaaaaaaaaaaaar |
| 23:20.20 | bleeter | art3mis: does it play in linux? |
| 23:22.10 | art3mis | possibly |
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| 23:22.18 | art3mis | dunno i dont have ubuntu installed at present |
| 23:22.36 | art3mis | should work through wine though withuot that much issue |
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| 23:49.06 | bleeter | MentalPower|Work: well, I think the channel has a very good point, but in no way does it even approach the shoreline of what that point is - so said point is merely theoretical. Rather sad, really. |
| 23:49.27 | bleeter | MentalPower|Work: folks will probably have to leap between several #'s where (ideally) we (the community) could centralise stuff |
| 23:49.35 | bleeter | oh gosh darn it, wrong # for that.. but... meh |
| 23:49.44 | bleeter | screw it, i've said it haha |
| 23:51.23 | MentalPower|Work | :P |
| 23:53.09 | bleeter | I wonder, though, how long before kd3 and Guillotine leave, too ;) |
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