| 00:00.39 | Shirik | this is an odd question |
| 00:00.48 | Shirik | is it possible to rename a user on linux? |
| 00:00.54 | Valaron|Work | Yes. |
| 00:01.24 | Valaron|Work | Change the username in /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow. Then mv the home dir |
| 00:01.34 | Shirik | thanks, now out of curiosity |
| 00:01.44 | Shirik | hm, that answered the question already I guess |
| 00:08.56 | bleeter | Shirik: man usermod |
| 00:09.39 | bleeter | Shirik: doesn't exactly change the login name, but automates a number of processes that you need to think about after renaming a user |
| 00:15.21 | Xinhuan | anyone know offhand how much block value 1 str gives? |
| 00:15.37 | zenzelezz | approximately 0 |
| 00:15.53 | zenzelezz | you need a freaking ton of str to get anything at all |
| 00:16.11 | Xinhuan | still interested to know the exact amount |
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| 00:17.13 | Drundia | I'm not sure but I think it was something like 0.1. |
| 00:18.24 | Drundia | http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Block says X = [(Shield [[block value]]) + ((Strength / 20) - 1)]. |
| 00:47.33 | Beladona | Tekkub: still svn. git comes later |
| 00:48.38 | Tekkub | kk |
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| 01:17.14 | Guillotine | hmm... over 1550 in a feral druid/prot pally team. Can you say wtf? |
| 01:17.38 | dylanm_ | Druid was seen in the arena. |
| 01:17.59 | Guillotine | huh? |
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| 01:19.20 | Guest305 | can anyone tell mw what it means when i get a scroll of spirit and it says my spirit has increased by 11? |
| 01:19.53 | Guillotine | your spirit is temporarily increased by 11 while the buff is active (1 hour I believe) |
| 01:19.59 | cogwheel | spirit is one of the basic stats |
| 01:20.16 | Guest305 | how does it help me |
| 01:20.20 | cogwheel | the game guide and the tooltips in your character window have info |
| 01:20.32 | cogwheel | open your character screen and hover over the spirit line |
| 01:20.50 | Guillotine | If you are a rogue or warrior, spirit will not help you at all. For any other class, it will increase your mana regeneration |
| 01:21.25 | Guest305 | thank you ! thats what i needed to figure how it helped in battle (im a 46 Hunter) |
| 01:21.29 | Drundia | a small correction: spirit also increases out of combat health regeneration so it helps everyone a bit. |
| 01:21.45 | Guest305 | thanks!!! |
| 01:22.12 | Guest305 | little things like that are impossible to find answers for! |
| 01:22.25 | cogwheel | so... does anyone know a windows ssh client that parses clickable urls? <.< |
| 01:22.37 | cogwheel | Guest305: or not :P |
| 01:22.57 | cogwheel | for instance, you could've hovered over the stat like i said and it would've told you ;) |
| 01:23.41 | cogwheel | also, you might want to check out http://www.wowwiki.com |
| 01:23.58 | Guest305 | ok thanks sorry to distur |
| 01:24.00 | Guest305 | b |
| 01:24.03 | cogwheel | Great place to look for specific things like that :) |
| 01:25.23 | bleeter | wow http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=6440865669&sid=1 |
| 01:25.59 | cogwheel | <cogwheel> so... does anyone know a windows ssh client that parses clickable urls? <.< |
| 01:26.02 | cogwheel | XD |
| 01:26.55 | cogwheel | rofl |
| 01:27.34 | durcyn | just set up a url handler for putty |
| 01:27.41 | Drundia | cogwheel, will you add another <cogwheel> every time you ask it again? :) |
| 01:28.20 | cogwheel | wasn't planning to do it again... just playing up the context ;) |
| 01:29.11 | Drundia | about that link: uhm, impersonating people using spacing? wasn't it actually done using "\r" which breaks lines and is sendable through chat unlike "\n"? |
| 01:29.24 | cogwheel | durcyn: care to elaborate? (using putty) |
| 01:29.45 | Seerah | ~seen cncfanatics |
| 01:29.48 | purl | cncfanatics <i=50c84af1@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e3a5a7fe674aa699> was last seen on IRC in channel #curseforge, 5h 36m 10s ago, saying: 'I don't have access to a git repos atm'. |
| 01:30.01 | durcyn | cogwheel: not sure it has a builtin, but you could fudge it with a cmd script, windows urlhandlers are pretty straightforward |
| 01:30.05 | bleeter | Drundia: yeah, i prolly mis-spoke a li'l, but the OP in that thread is such a tosspot I don't think the minor details matter that much ;) |
| 01:42.27 | Duman | Bloodlust sound everywhere = the new PW:S |
| 01:45.54 | Duman | cog: cygwin + X + rxvt(or whatever) ;-) |
| 01:47.14 | Shirik | yesterday, we down three new bosses: ros, bloodboil, mother |
| 01:47.18 | Shirik | today, we wipe to akama |
| 01:47.21 | Shirik | I love our consistency |
| 01:47.50 | Lopeppeppy | Foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds. |
| 01:47.53 | bleeter | Shirik: face it, u suk :P |
| 01:48.11 | Duman | haha |
| 01:48.12 | Shirik | playing on a laptop is kinda painful |
| 01:48.19 | bleeter | yup |
| 01:48.35 | Seerah | hobgoblin? :) |
| 01:49.18 | Shirik | not as painful as playing on kd3's network |
| 01:49.41 | cogwheel | gaming laptop + trackball imo |
| 01:49.43 | kd3 | meh, I'm in good shape if I'm not maxing out the connection trying to torrent something |
| 01:49.44 | bleeter | oO kd3's able to play on his network again?? |
| 01:49.50 | bleeter | ahh |
| 01:50.23 | kd3 | and we resorted to getting a secondary net connection in my apartment just to play wow... that's how addicted I (and another roommate) am |
| 01:50.25 | Shirik | I'm actually impressed with this laptop |
| 01:50.31 | Shirik | sadly, it's handling wow better than my desktop |
| 01:50.39 | Shirik | I think my desktop needs more ram |
| 01:50.42 | Shirik | this laptop has 4GB |
| 01:50.49 | kd3 | http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/4421/kd3netconnectioncv9.jpg |
| 01:51.12 | Kaso | im sure ive seen this image before |
| 01:51.23 | kd3 | probably |
| 01:51.37 | Seerah | hehe :) |
| 01:52.00 | kd3 | people who need net access do crazy things to ensure they get it |
| 01:52.21 | Seerah | that looks like an electrical fire waiting to happen :P |
| 01:52.34 | Seerah | I hope that's got a surge protector on it ;) |
| 01:53.10 | kd3 | a cheapass little power tap in the lower-left of the pic, but yah |
| 01:53.19 | kd3 | I'm more worried about the arcade cabinet |
| 01:53.28 | kd3 | we took a TV apart for its monitor |
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| 01:56.00 | Shirik | eh |
| 01:56.04 | Shirik | CRT? |
| 01:56.08 | kd3 | ya |
| 01:56.11 | Shirik | ow |
| 01:56.14 | Shirik | you know what you're doing? |
| 01:56.22 | kd3 | ya. we had an EE do it |
| 01:56.27 | Shirik | be careful with that stuff, around 20kV stored in there ) |
| 01:56.29 | Shirik | ah good :) |
| 01:56.34 | kd3 | scary amount of juice in the caps... oh I know |
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| 02:24.41 | Seerah | oh oh! http://buzzsugar.com/1625856 Fraggle Rock movie! |
| 02:25.02 | Lopeppeppy | *gasp* |
| 02:25.16 | Lopeppeppy | GoboMokiWimblyBooberRED! |
| 02:26.07 | Lopeppeppy | Dozers? |
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| 02:28.31 | Fisker- | it's not me you should be worried about, but you! |
| 02:28.31 | Seerah | I'm wearing my fire resistant outfit today |
| 02:28.34 | Seerah | had to deal with flamers earlier |
| 02:28.42 | Fisker- | yeah but i had my spell penetration gear on me |
| 02:28.43 | Seerah | of the forum kind |
| 02:29.04 | Seerah | spell penetration doesn't help against "IMMUNE!" |
| 02:29.24 | Fisker- | nope, but that's not fire resist gear bawww |
| 02:29.36 | Seerah | yeah, I know, I said resist >< |
| 02:29.39 | Seerah | I misspoke :P |
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| 02:30.53 | Funkeh` | I must have done something good to deserve that |
| 02:30.58 | Seerah | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:31.03 | Funkeh` | ;p |
| 02:31.12 | Seerah | would you prefer I told Fisker- to set you on fire? |
| 02:31.25 | Funkeh` | I'll settle for hugging |
| 02:31.29 | Seerah | good :P |
| 02:41.52 | Mike-N-Go | ~seen Wachunga |
| 02:41.55 | purl | Mike-N-Go: i haven't seen 'wachunga' |
| 02:42.06 | Sixen | ~seen kd3 |
| 02:42.07 | purl | kd3 is currently on #wowhead (9h 2m 11s) #wowuidev (9h 2m 11s) #wowace (9h 2m 11s) #wowwiki (9h 2m 11s). Has said a total of 32 messages. Is idling for 45m 33s, last said: 'scary amount of juice in the caps... oh I know'. |
| 02:42.43 | Mike-N-Go | ~kd3 |
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| 02:44.11 | batrick | http://www.intternetti.net/~jiri/motivation/africa.png |
| 02:44.18 | Mike-N-Go | Might the author of NameViolation happen to be present? |
| 02:44.30 | Seerah | who is the author? |
| 02:44.57 | Mike-N-Go | Wachunga is his name. |
| 02:45.04 | Seerah | ahhh |
| 02:47.27 | Seerah | I guess not. You could send them a PM on wowi |
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| 02:49.40 | Seerah | morning Iriel |
| 02:58.42 | Guillotine | Anybody with a Wii want to play some SSBB? |
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| 03:03.29 | kneeki | 'allo |
| 03:03.38 | Lopeppeppy | Heyo |
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| 03:05.12 | kneeki | Currently, I have a loop, and I need to add an if-then-else to make a check and then if true, restart the loop, while adding 1 to i (like an i = i + 1 or something). However, when I use break to restart the loop, it stops compleatly, like return would. How should I be doing this? =p |
| 03:05.39 | Iriel | break EXITS the loop |
| 03:05.45 | Iriel | there is no 'continue' equivalent in lua |
| 03:05.48 | kneeki | lol |
| 03:05.54 | kneeki | well, that explains that =p |
| 03:06.12 | kneeki | how do I get the loop to start over, ignoring the number that failed the if-then-else? |
| 03:06.49 | Iriel | generally you surround the contents of the loop in an if |
| 03:06.57 | kneeki | oh |
| 03:06.59 | Iriel | or you put the loop body in a function, and return from it |
| 03:07.17 | Xinhuan | or you can put a fake "repeat <blah> until true" |
| 03:07.24 | Xinhuan | so you can break from the repeat loop |
| 03:07.35 | Xinhuan | which only loops once |
| 03:07.47 | kneeki | Hmm, yeah. |
| 03:08.02 | Iriel | Wouldn't it be repeat until false? |
| 03:08.03 | kneeki | Dang it, I'm going to have to re-write this entire function. =\ |
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| 03:08.06 | Iriel | so ti runs at most once? |
| 03:08.18 | Xinhuan | repeat <blah blah> until true <-- this runs at most once |
| 03:08.27 | Xinhuan | so inside the <blahblah>, you can "break" from it |
| 03:08.33 | Xinhuan | to continue the actual for-loop |
| 03:08.44 | Xinhuan | so its like a proxy "continue" |
| 03:08.51 | kneeki | Here is my pasty: http://www.wowi.pastey.net/87761 |
| 03:09.03 | kneeki | Ignore all the local variables at the beginning, I was using those to test, I'll clean them up later |
| 03:09.15 | Iriel | Xinhuan: oh, sorry, my brain did a double negative |
| 03:09.26 | kneeki | Xinhuan, ahhh... I see what you're saying. |
| 03:09.26 | Xinhuan | for i = 1, 10 do repeat if i == 2 then break end until true end |
| 03:09.28 | Xinhuan | somethinglike that |
| 03:09.38 | Xinhuan | that "breaks" from the inner loop when i == 2 |
| 03:09.44 | Xinhuan | which in effect does a "continue" statement |
| 03:10.39 | Xinhuan | its just a handy trick to know heh |
| 03:11.10 | Xinhuan | assuming, enclosing the remainder of the loop in IF statements isn't viable that is |
| 03:11.24 | kneeki | yeah... |
| 03:11.32 | kneeki | I'm doing quite a few checks in my loop however |
| 03:12.40 | Xinhuan | then the repeat until true method is prob better |
| 03:13.07 | Xinhuan | since you can break from it anytime assuming no internal loops |
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| 03:13.34 | kneeki | Do I actually use repete? |
| 03:13.42 | kneeki | repeat* |
| 03:14.37 | Xinhuan | the extra "repeat until true" loop is merely a mechanism for you to "break" out of it to "continue" the outer loop |
| 03:14.48 | kneeki | ya |
| 03:15.06 | Xinhuan | not sure what you mean by "do i actually use repete" |
| 03:15.11 | kneeki | lol |
| 03:15.14 | kneeki | I'm just bad |
| 03:15.16 | kneeki | =p |
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| 03:15.28 | kneeki | I was taking you literally, by using repeat |
| 03:15.40 | kneeki | as in, put the word repeat in my loop |
| 03:15.47 | Duman | pete and repete walk into a store... |
| 03:16.01 | kneeki | =p |
| 03:16.40 | Seerah | It's get into a boat :P |
| 03:16.49 | Xinhuan | i wouldn't have suggested "repeat until true" if that wasn't actually the keywords, right? ;p |
| 03:17.00 | kneeki | btw |
| 03:17.14 | Seerah | xinhuan is cryptic without being cryptic ;) |
| 03:17.19 | kneeki | Is there a way to clear the spell off the cursor? Like, remove the blue glow |
| 03:17.22 | Duman | heh |
| 03:17.23 | kneeki | using Lua |
| 03:17.31 | dylanm | I'm trying to find the reason for not having a continue. |
| 03:17.34 | Xinhuan | yes, but i forgot the command ;p |
| 03:17.40 | kneeki | I have also |
| 03:17.52 | dylanm | There's an interesting list thread. |
| 03:17.54 | kneeki | and WoWWiki is being mean to me... Hiding stuff I think |
| 03:17.59 | Xinhuan | probably soemthing like ResetCursor() |
| 03:18.21 | Duman | ClearCursor()? |
| 03:18.39 | Duman | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_ClearCursor |
| 03:18.42 | Duman | *shrug* |
| 03:18.52 | Duman | oh there is resetcursor, too |
| 03:19.25 | Duman | yeah I guess ResetCursor() is what you want |
| 03:19.34 | kneeki | fack it, I'll use both. |
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| 03:29.54 | kneeki | Grrr! |
| 03:29.57 | kneeki | I hate being bad. |
| 03:38.56 | Xuerian | Anyone seen nymbia around other than irc? >_> |
| 03:40.09 | Tem | yeah, I saw him at the park the other day |
| 03:40.37 | Tem | (here's your sign) |
| 03:40.52 | Xuerian | On various forums would qualify. Flip that baby around! |
| 03:42.04 | kneeki | Is there a stupid easy way to check what buffs a unit has that I don't know about? The only way's I've been able to tell is by checking BuffID's |
| 03:42.45 | Xuerian | Compared to the old way, that IS the easy way... |
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| 03:43.01 | kneeki | lol ya, I remember checking spell icon textures =p |
| 03:44.21 | kneeki | I guess I'll have to make my own function. :( |
| 03:45.22 | Xuerian | I just signed up for the snarky comment. Don't know if there's not a easier way :p |
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| 03:57.15 | ScytheBlade1 | ~logs |
| 03:57.15 | purl | [logs] apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
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| 04:33.44 | Guillotine | this probably doesn't need to be said, but.... today's xkcd is pure win |
| 04:33.59 | kneeki | Oh? I havn't seen it |
| 04:36.12 | Mike-N-Go_ | ~xkcd |
| 04:36.12 | purl | rumour has it, xkcd is http://xkcd.com/281/, or only the best webcomic of romance, sarcasm, math and language |
| 04:36.50 | Iriel | Someone needs to fix that to remove the strip number |
| 04:38.20 | Guillotine | purl, no, xkcd is http://xkcd.com/ |
| 04:38.21 | purl | okay, Guillotine |
| 04:38.43 | Mike-N-Go_ | purl, no xkcd is http://xkcd.com/ or only the best webcomic of romance, sarcasm, math and language. |
| 04:38.43 | purl | Mike-N-Go_: okay |
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| 04:54.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Anyone aware of an addon which saves/restores complete keybinding sets? |
| 04:54.39 | ScytheBlade1 | If I pick up this PvP thing agressively, I don't want to log out every time I respec to copy the corresponding keybinding file to the right place :( |
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| 04:55.33 | dylanm | ScytheBlade1: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8075-ActionBarSaver.html |
| 04:55.53 | ScytheBlade1 | That's great, but I don't use the actionbars. :( |
| 04:56.02 | ScytheBlade1 | 100% keybound spells directly to the keys |
| 04:56.38 | dylanm | Then use oBindings. |
| 04:57.36 | dylanm | http://ixo.no/git/oBindings.git/snapshot/oBindings-master.zip |
| 04:57.46 | Corrodias | ugh, direct link! |
| 04:58.20 | dylanm | Corrodias: Some people can't figure out where to get a zip and they cry. |
| 04:58.29 | Corrodias | i cry anyway ;.; |
| 04:58.34 | Corrodias | i'm very emotional |
| 04:58.40 | dylanm | Well, someone was going to be in tears no matter what I did there. |
| 04:58.48 | dylanm | I'm sorry that it's you :( |
| 04:58.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm, documentation is pretty sparse for oBindings |
| 04:58.57 | dylanm | We don't need no stinkin' documentation. |
| 04:59.10 | dylanm | Oh you'll need the example. |
| 04:59.12 | dylanm | Hold up. |
| 04:59.28 | ScytheBlade1 | ha, k |
| 04:59.41 | dylanm | THIS IS A ZIP FILE >> http://ixo.no/git/oBindings_Personal.git/snapshot/oBindings_Personal-master.zip << ZIP FILE TRULY NOT A WEBPAGE |
| 04:59.55 | dylanm | I apologize if you know your way around git and this is just obvious. |
| 05:02.34 | dylanm | Actually, I'm not sure that this does what you want. |
| 05:02.44 | dylanm | It's been a while since I've looked at it. Only haste understands things he writes. |
| 05:06.10 | dylanm | No, this ought to work. |
| 05:06.28 | dylanm | The lack of documentation is thrilling. |
| 05:06.30 | Corrodias | "OPENING THIS PACKAGE INDICATES LICENSEE'S ACCEPTANCE OF THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THIS AGREEMENT." -- but... but i downloaded a setup .exe |
| 05:06.40 | Corrodias | (re: something else entirely) |
| 05:07.05 | Kajas | Weee! |
| 05:07.09 | Kajas | << Got his book today |
| 05:07.13 | Kajas | Time to go hide for a few hours and read |
| 05:07.24 | dylanm | To load his example bindings you'd have a priest and do /ob shadow but if you made another subtable like keys.PRIEST.holy you could do /ob holy. |
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| 05:11.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm, this has serious possibility |
| 05:12.15 | Corrodias | keys.WARLOCK.lol |
| 05:12.41 | Corrodias | hey, are warlocks still considered OP? what about paladins + warriors? I haven't been around for a while. |
| 05:12.49 | Corrodias | what are they QQing about lately? |
| 05:12.57 | Corrodias | (they being players who QQ) |
| 05:15.11 | Xuerian | Depends on who you're asking |
| 05:15.15 | Xuerian | (Healer/DPS/Tank) |
| 05:18.35 | Corrodias | i have played all 3, and i think the most stressful was definitely healing. but that was mostly in the days before the expansion. |
| 05:19.54 | Xuerian | I haven't been playing much either, but I can happily say that prot pallies are OP |
| 05:24.21 | Corrodias | oh, that's cool. they weren't a month ago, or so. |
| 05:24.34 | Corrodias | huh, maybe two now... |
| 05:25.11 | Xuerian | Oh? They get nerfed? |
| 05:25.42 | Corrodias | not that i'm aware, but the tanking classes seemed to be approximately equal for the job last i could tell |
| 05:26.06 | Corrodias | although i'm talking strictly PvE there |
| 05:26.15 | Xuerian | Perhaps I'm just bitter that they took our AoE tanking role (Feral) |
| 05:26.16 | Corrodias | i guess in PvP things could be quite different |
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| 05:47.50 | krka | cogwheel: you'd have to write a new tokenizer, but the actual colorizing code should work as it is |
| 05:48.57 | cogwheel | krka: coolio |
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| 07:30.39 | mib_axxutptp | anyone want to cause mischief? |
| 07:31.42 | mib_axxutptp | anyone here? |
| 07:31.48 | cog|sleep | ... |
| 07:33.52 | Dezzimal | LARGE LUA ERRORS |
| 07:33.52 | krka | Dezzimal: Lua is not an acronym. It is a Portuguese word that means moon. |
| 07:33.56 | cog|sleep | that work for you? |
| 07:34.10 | mib_axxutptp | did you get my pm? |
| 07:34.23 | cog|sleep | you have to register to send pms |
| 07:34.28 | mib_axxutptp | errr |
| 07:35.19 | mib_axxutptp | it needs to be moderately private, can you go to an empty chan? |
| 07:36.15 | cog|sleep | some random joe comes into a channel seemingly at random, asking if we want to do some vague "mischief" and you need to speak to me privately... |
| 07:36.22 | mib_axxutptp | hah |
| 07:36.25 | cog|sleep | Go back to #13yogrls |
| 07:36.39 | mib_axxutptp | shutup, it's not anything gross |
| 07:36.44 | cog|sleep | imo |
| 07:36.58 | mib_axxutptp | i don't play wow, but i have someone's account who has pissed me off |
| 07:37.07 | cog|sleep | gtfo |
| 07:37.28 | cog|sleep | hope you get permabanned |
| 07:37.28 | Tem | mib_axxutptp, I reccomend you get out before we kick/ban |
| 07:37.32 | mib_axxutptp | fineeeeeee |
| 07:37.35 | mib_axxutptp | homos |
| 07:37.45 | cog|sleep | rather be homo than retarde |
| 07:39.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm |
| 07:39.49 | cog|sleep | ah yes... sleep... |
| 07:39.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | typing an essay while drunk probably isn't the greatest idea ever |
| 07:40.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh well |
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| 08:04.49 | bleeter | hehehe http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/9783/19eotsvh2.jpg |
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| 08:44.53 | DARKGuy | ttyl guys, night :) |
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| 09:43.54 | bleeter | and blammo |
| 09:44.04 | bleeter | Oceanic realms go titsup.com... again |
| 09:53.58 | bleeter | wow, the outage thread on CSF is progressing faster than it's physically possible to read |
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| 11:18.54 | Gnarfoz | ~seen zootfizzle |
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| 11:43.17 | bleeter | hahaha |
| 11:43.19 | bleeter | Thanks for the pro entertainment, next time i'll choose option B, slapping my genitals with the USB plug attached to my mouse. |
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| 12:00.50 | Cide | ok.. why has my firefox stopped loading images? |
| 12:01.04 | Cide | and basically stopped fully loading any page |
| 12:01.36 | Kaso | are you on one paritcular site? you may have accidently "block[ed] images from this host" ? |
| 12:01.43 | Cide | no... any host |
| 12:02.26 | Cide | it started happening since an update yesterday (to ff3 b5) |
| 12:02.29 | cncfanatics | tried restarting it ? |
| 12:02.32 | Cide | yes... |
| 12:02.34 | Kaso | have you unticked "load images automatically" in the options? |
| 12:02.36 | cncfanatics | I just updated too, no problems |
| 12:02.42 | Cide | I haven't changed anything |
| 12:02.45 | Cide | besides updating |
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| 12:02.55 | Cide | some images are loaded, some are half loaded |
| 12:02.57 | Drundia | Cide, my firefox is acting weird lately too. Sometimes it just refuses to load some addresses until restart :( |
| 12:02.59 | Cide | most aren't loaded at all |
| 12:03.18 | Cide | wowwiki isn't loading at all (except the title) |
| 12:03.19 | bleeter | yeah, I've had similar problems... gone as far as 'repair network connection' doesn't seem to help |
| 12:03.23 | Cide | actually |
| 12:03.29 | Cide | the whole source is loaded |
| 12:03.33 | Cide | but nothing is rendered |
| 12:03.55 | Cide | just "Transferring data from www.wowwiki.com", stuck at ~90% complete |
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| 12:04.34 | Cide | same with wow forums |
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| 12:04.43 | Cide | ie works fine |
| 12:04.49 | Cide | but it's ie so not an option |
| 12:05.07 | cncfanatics | opera ! |
| 12:06.24 | Cide | no |
| 12:06.55 | Cide | what's the ff3 support site anyway? |
| 12:09.33 | bleeter | http://dev.null/ ? |
| 12:09.42 | Cide | that sucks |
| 12:09.53 | Cide | wtb null as a TLD btw |
| 12:09.53 | cncfanatics | http://www.dev.com/null |
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| 13:58.56 | kneeki | *wave* |
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| 14:14.52 | bleeter | god |
| 14:14.56 | bleeter | 5 weeks of this crap |
| 14:14.59 | bleeter | or is it 6 |
| 14:15.09 | bleeter | and they still have nfi if/when it'll be fixed |
| 14:15.19 | alestane | ? |
| 14:15.22 | bleeter | and they're still all 'we won't talk account credits until it's fixed' |
| 14:15.31 | ralfWORK | ? |
| 14:15.36 | bleeter | alestane: the constant nightly outages |
| 14:15.50 | alestane | On WoW? Haven't noticed myself. |
| 14:15.56 | bleeter | been going on with two battlegroups at least, and other realms, since 2.4.0 came out |
| 14:16.07 | ralfWORK | ahhh |
| 14:16.10 | bleeter | if you don't play from Oceania, you probably don't see it |
| 14:16.18 | alestane | Whole-game, or just the BGs? |
| 14:16.21 | ralfWORK | I've noticed severe lag spikes |
| 14:16.29 | bleeter | as it happens at a time of least load for US servers.. they do get hit with the bug, but typicall just lag out a little |
| 14:16.38 | bleeter | add in some latency, servers go boom, it'd seem |
| 14:16.49 | bleeter | alestane: whole game, instances, the lot |
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| 14:17.10 | bleeter | 128 page thread about it http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5640976872&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 14:17.31 | bleeter | Blizz's current official statement: |
| 14:17.33 | bleeter | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=6408020887&sid=1 |
| 14:18.02 | bleeter | I still find it hard to believ e the big gaming sites/mags haven't picked this up |
| 14:18.15 | alestane | You lost me at "128 page thread" I'm afraid...I'm sure it's a problem but 95% of that is going to be whining about the inconvenience and how we better get service credits for putting up with it. |
| 14:18.49 | bleeter | indeed... the amusing bits are the empty pages where it's been moderated to hell and back |
| 14:19.19 | bleeter | but there aren't many of them, mostly it's people giving Blizz the responses that blizz ask 'is your chat lagged, how about voice, what about looting?' etc. |
| 14:19.23 | Intangir | anyone know a good alternative to natur combat timers? |
| 14:19.30 | Intangir | im sorry but it seems to be 100% worthless now ;( |
| 14:19.32 | bleeter | asking the customers to suply debugging 101 info they could fly a few techs out |
| 14:19.35 | bleeter | for |
| 14:20.41 | alestane | To the customers? or to the NOCs? |
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| 14:22.57 | Lunessa | All we want to do is eat your brains. We're not unreasonable; I mean, no one's gonna eat your eyes. |
| 14:23.00 | bleeter | alestane: ? to whichever region seems to be exhibiting the problem the most... no point asking customers to give vauge feedback in forums for this info. if they need hard data, they want their own techs on the ground with the proper measurement tools etc. |
| 14:23.03 | Gnarfoz | there is no place they could fly anyone out to |
| 14:23.47 | Gnarfoz | where would techs be if not at the datacenters already (or with remote access to them, which would be just as good)? |
| 14:24.14 | alestane | You want techs on the ground in the geographic areas with the worst problems, running WoW looking for problems and checking tracert results? |
| 14:24.51 | bleeter | alestane: no, that's pretty much what Blizz are asking their paying customers to do, and to remain patient for an indeterminate amount of time whilst the realms continue to crash |
| 14:25.14 | Gnarfoz | ...which don't seem to be related to the problem, anyway... it's the servers crashing, why would traceroute data be relevant |
| 14:25.15 | bleeter | and to provide this desired info, people have to continue to play on the effected realms... |
| 14:25.51 | bleeter | Gnarfoz: dunno, but they seem to think traces and feedback about latency for chat/voice/looting is relevant, and they can't seem to get that info for themselves |
| 14:26.06 | Lunessa | did I miss something important? I mean, all I did was patch and go to bed last night... |
| 14:26.22 | bleeter | Lunessa: nah, nothing important |
| 14:26.58 | bleeter | Lunessa: just I've decided to bitch openly now about the 5-6 weeks of outages and Blizz not offering any promise of future recompense, only asking us to continue to use the servers and provide performance feedback info |
| 14:27.11 | alestane | However, sending techs out in search of the same results gets a much smaller sample about the affected areas. |
| 14:27.27 | bleeter | (note the feedback provided is of low quality because people are frustrated after 5-6 weeks and have had enough) |
| 14:28.04 | alestane | Rolling reboots this morning. |
| 14:28.25 | bleeter | yeah, we had one or two lots of them as well as the crashes |
| 14:30.00 | bleeter | alestane: I agree it'd be smaller, but from what's been said they really are grasping at straws atm. I'm throwing the 'left of field' ideas out, 'coz it's seemingly apparent blizz have none |
| 14:30.22 | bleeter | personally, I blame the aussie tv schedule or the problems ;) |
| 14:30.29 | bleeter | *for |
| 14:31.18 | ralfWORK | I blame canada |
| 14:31.37 | Lunessa | Apparently I'm not firing on all cylinders - http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=6441205382&sid=1 - I've got it all wrong. |
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| 14:45.40 | bleeter | ah, I withdraw. traceroutes are no longer requested from customers, just vague statements about performance |
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| 14:47.02 | mikma | http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_2.4.2/Undocumented_changes <3 |
| 14:48.18 | ralfWORK | how about the bloodrage sound change |
| 14:48.21 | ralfWORK | scared the shit outa me |
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| 14:49.14 | bleeter | haha, i've heard of that, not heard it yet though |
| 14:49.40 | bleeter | is it annoying as the zone-wide 'omg there's a priest somewhere who just PW:S' sound? |
| 14:50.05 | alestane | Which they said they just fixed. |
| 14:50.27 | bleeter | yar, fixed PW:S now a buncha folks complaining about Bloodrage hehe :/ |
| 14:50.40 | ralfWORK | erm |
| 14:50.55 | ralfWORK | no, they changed the Whirlwind sound |
| 14:51.08 | ralfWORK | last night they changed Whirlwind back to something normal |
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| 14:51.27 | ralfWORK | but they changed bloodrage to sound like "ROWR RAWR WRARRRRR" |
| 14:53.43 | Lunessa | Holy crap... adding the new gem vendor in the Inn is going to make my Warlock need a crapton of gold. |
| 14:53.53 | ralfWORK | lol |
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| 14:54.35 | Lunessa | I mean, those designs are 12-50g each. |
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| 14:56.21 | wereHamster | is there a way to configure WoW to use whatever resolution the current screen has instead of hardcoding it in the config.wtf file? |
| 14:57.07 | Drundia | windowed maximized mode |
| 14:58.00 | wereHamster | I don't want to see the window borders.. |
| 14:58.30 | Lunessa | I don't in maximized mode. |
| 14:58.41 | zenzelezz | it's borderless, captionless |
| 14:58.49 | |Jelly| | Any ideas on how to make a Pitbull frame border change colors based upon class? |
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| 14:59.28 | |Jelly| | I wouldn't mind using eePanels/kgPanels either. |
| 15:00.17 | wereHamster | Lunessa: I still have to configure a resolution. I don't want to do that |
| 15:01.05 | Seerah | |Jelly|: you have to use ee/kgPanels for that. Check both mods' threads on wowace or the PitBull Layouts thread. There is a script for it somewhere |
| 15:01.07 | Lunessa | wereHamster: You want WoW to auto-detect resolution? |
| 15:01.14 | wereHamster | yes |
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| 15:01.44 | Lunessa | wereHamster: It will do something like that if no value is set in config.wtf |
| 15:02.35 | Drundia | wereHamster, maximized windowed mode doesn't require resolution, it uses it only for aspect ratio... there you have to configure it probably |
| 15:02.53 | Drundia | Lunessa, I believe WOW picks default resolution based on detected hardware |
| 15:03.21 | Lunessa | Probably correct. I don't move my copy of WoW to different machines much. |
| 15:03.22 | Gnarfoz | ~seen AlexanderYoshi |
| 15:03.24 | purl | alexanderyoshi <n=alexyosh@ip68-109-71-246.oc.oc.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 2d 13h 17m 12s ago, saying: 'it sounds like it's just another distro system like wow ace'. |
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| 15:07.51 | foxlit | "An action was blocked in combat because of taint from ShowMeTheMoney - MultiBarLeftButton11:Hide()" |
| 15:09.00 | cncfanatics | fail |
| 15:09.02 | cncfanatics | taint fails :p |
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| 15:12.32 | Seerah | haha. Blizz tut causes taint? |
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| 15:15.23 | bleeter | hahaha @ hortus' bloodrage response |
| 15:15.25 | bleeter | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=6440894983&sid=1#3 |
| 15:16.01 | kneeki | lol! |
| 15:22.26 | Valaron|Work | It's suppose to be 100F tomorrow here. |
| 15:25.33 | Lunessa | We can dance. We can dance. Everyone look at your hands. |
| 15:29.33 | Seerah | thanks - now I have that song in my head :P |
| 15:30.55 | Lunessa | ooo... does anyone know if Dragonmaw and Dragonstrike are now 1-H weapons instead of MH? |
| 15:31.15 | Lunessa | You're most welcome Seerah. Just doing my part to spread the meme. |
| 15:31.29 | Seerah | :) |
| 15:31.33 | Seerah | did you check wowhead yet? |
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| 15:31.53 | |Jelly| | They both are, Lunessa. Just had them linked in guild. |
| 15:31.58 | Lunessa | WoWHead still shows main hand, but I suspect they haven't gotten everything updated, and I forgot to check last night. |
| 15:32.14 | |Jelly| | are [one handed] |
| 15:32.16 | Lunessa | ... Oh callu, kallaieh! |
| 15:32.49 | Lunessa | Frabulous joy! A smithing I will go tonight. |
| 15:33.59 | |Jelly| | So ... my +dmg went down when I went to disc. kek |
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| 15:36.53 | foxlit | ouch |
| 15:37.19 | foxlit | ShowMeTheMoney: 6338 taint.log entries :( |
| 15:37.28 | Piggdiggler | hello |
| 15:37.42 | foxlit | Wonder what the heck that does to provoke such wrath |
| 15:38.29 | Piggdiggler | has there been any issues with the current cosmos file versions and the wow update released yesterday? |
| 15:39.37 | cncfanatics | its cosmos, so, who knows |
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| 15:42.14 | Lunessa | If you see a Discipline Priest in S3 gear, you do what we do. You run. |
| 15:43.50 | |Jelly| | WTB S3 |
| 15:44.21 | |Jelly| | It's kinda funny really ... I left my 2s team in the 1500's after three games cause I wanted to go to sleep, right? |
| 15:44.31 | |Jelly| | ...it ended up at 1467 :( |
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| 15:45.48 | Lunessa | Bummer. |
| 15:46.11 | Lunessa | I r teh suk at PvP, but I'm doing BGs for welfare epix. |
| 15:48.05 | |Jelly| | eh. My resil is 252 and I lost interest in pvp so ... I guess it's welfare or like half a million weeks of fail arenas for good stuff |
| 15:49.22 | cncfanatics | hello peeps |
| 15:49.25 | cncfanatics | (again :p) |
| 15:50.26 | kneeki | cncfanatics: Hi |
| 15:51.31 | foxlit | I need a better solution to hiding the ShapeshiftBarFrame :( |
| 15:52.02 | cncfanatics | foxlit: whats the problem you're trying to fix ? |
| 15:52.20 | foxlit | I just want to get rid of that frame. |
| 15:52.39 | foxlit | Perhaps I should just reparent it to somewhere the sun doesn't shine. |
| 15:56.48 | Lunessa | What's wrong with /run ShapeShiftBar:Hide() ? |
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| 15:58.58 | dylanm | I think stuff doesn't work then, right? |
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| 15:59.21 | dylanm | Just SetPoint it somewhere whacky. |
| 15:59.32 | Lunessa | If you're shifting via macros, why do you care about the bar at all? |
| 15:59.51 | zenzelezz | I love the smell of fresh motherboards in the morning. Smells like... northbridge |
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| 16:02.54 | foxlit | Lunessa: it's shown again, periodically |
| 16:03.40 | Lunessa | Like, mmm... after zoning? Yeah, set point it somewhere off screen at all possible resolutions/scales. |
| 16:04.00 | foxlit | Not only after zoning. |
| 16:05.03 | dylanm | You can replace .Show. |
| 16:06.14 | Lunessa | Or you could look for all the events it receives and unregister them. |
| 16:06.39 | dylanm | Yeah, look at what the bar mods do to disable the stuff. |
| 16:07.16 | foxlit | Replacing .Show taints execution of code that calls is, resulting in pretty error messages in chat |
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| 16:08.20 | foxlit | Unregistering events... well, that's a bit harder to trace |
| 16:09.24 | foxlit | Problem is, PossessBarFrame messes with the shapeshift bar as well |
| 16:10.52 | foxlit | so hiddenParent = CreateFrame("Frame"); ShapeshiftBarFrame:SetParent(hiddenParent); hiddenParrent:Hide(); it is |
| 16:11.27 | dylanm | foxlit: What do you mean by harder to trace? |
| 16:11.55 | foxlit | It's harder to check the consequences of what you're doing |
| 16:12.28 | foxlit | whereas they're somewhat clear (if flawed) when replacing :Show, they're very much in the air when you're unregistering some other frame's events. |
| 16:12.32 | dylanm | I don't really know what your setup is. |
| 16:12.56 | dylanm | But I have :UnregisterAllEvents() on mine and things are pretty okay. |
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| 16:13.23 | foxlit | on your what, exactly? |
| 16:13.50 | dylanm | ShapeshiftBarFrame. |
| 16:14.03 | foxlit | That won't really work properly |
| 16:14.13 | dylanm | Like I said, I don't know your setup. |
| 16:14.21 | foxlit | Default UI, more or less |
| 16:14.31 | foxlit | Here's why: shapeshifting throws UPDATE_BONUS_ACTIONBAR |
| 16:14.42 | foxlit | UPDATE_BONUS_ACTIONBAR is caught by PossessBarFrame |
| 16:14.46 | dylanm | Oh. Well then no, don't do that. |
| 16:15.16 | foxlit | Which calls PossessBar_Update(), which shows the ShapeshiftBarFrame if you're not possessing anything and have shapeshifts. |
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| 16:16.22 | dylanm | What was wrong with moving it, again? |
| 16:16.32 | dylanm | But if your reparent works that's rad too. |
| 16:16.57 | foxlit | Nothing I can see at the moment |
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| 16:19.59 | foxlit | I also don't quite get this: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/87793 |
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| 16:25.33 | batrick | all my friends r getting banned for point selling lol |
| 16:25.49 | batrick | (this is great news) |
| 16:25.58 | wereHamster | what is point selling? |
| 16:26.10 | batrick | arena pointz |
| 16:26.16 | MoonWolf | selling an arena team so you can get this weeks point rollover. |
| 16:26.17 | batrick | one of them has 15k gold lol |
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| 16:27.20 | |Jelly| | Why banned? |
| 16:27.40 | MoonWolf | it is not allowed, blizzard is currently cracking down on it |
| 16:27.43 | MoonWolf | same for wintrading. |
| 16:27.49 | |Jelly| | What's that? |
| 16:28.00 | |Jelly| | I really have been out of the loop for quite some time now. :P |
| 16:28.18 | Drundia | i think point buyers should be stripped of items and point sellers should be stripped of gold earned on that |
| 16:28.27 | MoonWolf | agreements between teams to trade wins , artifically inflating rating. |
| 16:28.34 | |Jelly| | ahh |
| 16:28.43 | batrick | hows point selling any different from a PVE guild selling items from raids |
| 16:29.12 | MoonWolf | batrick, there is no direct competition between pve guilds |
| 16:29.25 | batrick | lol? |
| 16:29.41 | MoonWolf | are you going into an instance and fighting another guild for the boss ? |
| 16:29.54 | batrick | im talking about point selling not win trading |
| 16:30.04 | MoonWolf | yes |
| 16:30.24 | MoonWolf | arena seasons are competitions. |
| 16:30.26 | batrick | point selling odesn't negatively effect other teams competing |
| 16:30.36 | batrick | it just means more noobs in BGs with epix |
| 16:30.36 | Kyahx | also, PvP is alot more competitve than PvE, hence they'll be stricter about 'shady' practices |
| 16:30.46 | batrick | dude |
| 16:30.49 | Kyahx | It breaks the system |
| 16:30.50 | batrick | pre-BC |
| 16:30.56 | MoonWolf | batrick, it does, first it inflates the amount of points earned by non competers |
| 16:31.02 | MoonWolf | there pool is "limited" |
| 16:31.03 | batrick | pve gear was the best you could get |
| 16:31.11 | MoonWolf | so you devalue teams that are really trying |
| 16:31.12 | batrick | and they let that shit fly |
| 16:31.23 | Kyahx | so? its not pre-BC anymore |
| 16:31.28 | Kyahx | differant game |
| 16:31.32 | batrick | so, it's hypocritical |
| 16:31.41 | MoonWolf | the pool* |
| 16:31.52 | batrick | whatever i got finals to study for, I just find the whole thing silly |
| 16:31.57 | batrick | laterz |
| 16:32.04 | Kyahx | As do I, people should earn their points :) |
| 16:34.10 | foxlit | "batrick: and they let that shit fly" |
| 16:34.14 | foxlit | Hey |
| 16:34.19 | foxlit | Honor point trading was bannable |
| 16:34.54 | foxlit | At least the "I'll let you kill me if you let me kill you" brand. |
| 16:35.20 | Kyahx | He was referring to paying a high-end guild to let you ride coattails on a raid and take gear |
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| 16:45.07 | mikma | this means what? "Creature versions of the Polymorph spell no longer heal the affected target." |
| 16:45.51 | wereHamster | is there a non-creature version of the polymorph spell? |
| 16:46.03 | Adys | http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/VB_0x2b__0x2b_.aspx |
| 16:46.04 | Adys | ... |
| 16:46.20 | Adys | and yes wereHamster a lot of them |
| 16:46.30 | Adys | nefarian's if anything |
| 16:47.39 | wereHamster | what does he turn you into? |
| 16:48.05 | Adys | uh tons of things :P |
| 16:48.33 | Adys | giraffe, slug, cow |
| 16:48.37 | Adys | and some others, dont remember |
| 16:48.43 | Adys | could check with displayids |
| 16:49.34 | Maldivia | wereHamster: creature version... as in the polymorph spells used by mobs |
| 16:49.37 | Adys | besides i think the patch note meant that NPC's polymorphs don't heal anymore :) |
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| 16:54.36 | Maldivia | hmm... what if a mob MCs a player mage, and casts polymorph while MCed? |
| 16:54.54 | Maldivia | :) |
| 16:57.40 | wereHamster | do the mobs have that sophisticated AI? |
| 17:00.45 | Adys | yeah |
| 17:00.51 | Adys | and that would heal Maldivia |
| 17:00.59 | Adys | since technically the spell is the same |
| 17:01.11 | Adys | http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2008/05/use-igoogle-and-google-reader-in.html pretty awesome too |
| 17:03.11 | Maldivia | wereHamster: dunno - usually when a mob MCs, it starts of by using all CDs :) |
| 17:04.21 | Xinhuan | non-creature versions of polymorph probably means Shade of Aran |
| 17:04.41 | Xinhuan | i mean creature versions |
| 17:04.49 | Xinhuan | and the trash mobs before shahraz |
| 17:05.53 | Maldivia | Xinhuan: personally, aran has never polymorphed when I've killed him :) |
| 17:06.19 | Xinhuan | i think a few mobs in sethikk halls might sheep also |
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| 17:39.08 | Kaelten | AnduinLothar: Kolie has a question for you |
| 17:39.19 | Kolie | Actually, can I pm you. |
| 17:44.09 | sacarasc | i'll PM you! |
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| 18:09.01 | kneeki | woof |
| 18:10.26 | Lopeppeppy | meow |
| 18:10.33 | DARKGuy | moo |
| 18:11.03 | Gnarfoz | bacon. |
| 18:11.11 | DARKGuy | campion. |
| 18:11.16 | DARKGuy | *champion, even. |
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| 18:17.40 | Lunessa | I'll vote for bacon |
| 18:18.18 | Lopeppeppy | Bacon is good. |
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| 18:22.01 | DARKGuy | duh, you voted bacon because Gnarfoz said it :P |
| 18:23.05 | kamdis | bacon rules. http://xkcd.com/418/ That is all. |
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| 18:38.57 | poit | Is there no onmouseover event handler for WoW UI Frames? |
| 18:41.08 | Kaso | pot http://www.wowwiki.com/UIHANDLER_OnEnter |
| 18:43.05 | poit | hmm I already read that one.. but it seemed that OnEnter was the opposite of what I needed.. since it will be called on the frame and not in the 'world' (if you didn't know already Im new to WoW UI design hehe) ?? |
| 18:43.27 | poit | guess I'll play with it some more though.. |
| 18:43.31 | Kaso | umm? |
| 18:43.38 | Kaso | Explain exactly what you ultimate aim is |
| 18:43.40 | Kaso | what do you want to do |
| 18:44.06 | Industrial | How many buff/debuffs can a Unit have? |
| 18:44.08 | poit | I have a frame.. and a textbox and I want to scroll over items in WoW and the textbox on my frame to update with the name of the item I'm mousing over |
| 18:44.45 | Industrial | in short i'm lloking for a UnitHasBuff() and UnitHasDebuff(). Anyone got a pastey/linkey? |
| 18:44.54 | Kaso | "items in wow" you mean things in the game world? |
| 18:45.03 | poit | correct |
| 18:45.22 | poit | people.. items (mailbox, chests, etc) |
| 18:45.34 | Kaso | ok, then, sec |
| 18:45.37 | alestane | Check the code in GameToolTip and see how it does it. |
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| 18:47.37 | poit | you're opening a can of worms for me alestane since I have no idea how to do that lol |
| 18:47.56 | alestane | That's okay, turns out it's not the right place anyway. |
| 18:48.00 | Kaso | poit, you need to check for "UPDATE_MOUSEOVER_UNIT" |
| 18:48.09 | Kaso | then you can do UnitName("mouseover") |
| 18:48.33 | Kaso | that works for people in game, im not entirely sure aboud mailboxes et al, but i assume it'd be the same |
| 18:49.08 | poit | hmm ok stupid question #2.. is there a list of those uppsercase-named events somewhere online? |
| 18:49.16 | Kaso | http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_%28API%29 |
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| 18:54.00 | Shirik|Ecole | Hey guys, I have an interesting question for you C/C++ guys. I have a recursive function that I'm trying to get to optimize to a tailcall, because it .. well, it could be recursively called around 65k times in this stress test I'm doing right now |
| 18:54.29 | Shirik|Ecole | in release mode, visual studio seems to do the tailcall (it works fine). In debug mode, however, it crashes with a stack overflow (I assume it's not optimizing) |
| 18:54.32 | Shirik|Ecole | any ideas how I can force it? |
| 18:54.58 | Maldivia | enable optimization in debum mode? |
| 18:55.31 | Shirik|Ecole | I find that to be kinda a workaround, because it would only be set up that way on my computer. Is there any alternative? |
| 18:55.56 | poit | Thanks, Kaso! :c ) |
| 18:56.32 | Maldivia | Shirik: rewrite the function yourself, so you don't rely on compiler optimization |
| 19:00.27 | Shirik|Ecole | Maldivia: I guess I'll do that. I was hoping for some magical #pragma or something |
| 19:01.00 | Maldivia | Shirik: best not to rely on compiler optimization in such situations, I'd say :) |
| 19:02.27 | Maldivia | Shirik: especially when a failed optimization can cause the code to crash :) And what happens when a new version of the compiler optimize differently? |
| 19:03.51 | Shirik|Ecole | the way I wrote the code, it should never decide against tail recursion |
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| 19:04.46 | kamdis | OMG it's |Jelly| |
| 19:05.33 | poit | Kaso: I think I may be doing something wrong.. care to look please? http://wowuidev.pastey.net/87805 |
| 19:08.06 | Adys | hahah |
| 19:08.08 | Adys | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dependency_hell |
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| 19:08.27 | Adys | They got articles for DLL hell, JAR hell and Extension conflict, respectively |
| 19:08.44 | Adys | Wikipedia is incredible |
| 19:09.03 | poit | Adys: I think every Linux sys admin has that :cP |
| 19:09.56 | Adys | it's still amazing how this gets enough into the notability guidelines to get an article |
| 19:10.03 | Adys | and none of the wow sites does for example |
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| 19:12.16 | |Jelly| | !ap 262 |
| 19:12.30 | Gnarfoz | !points 262 |
| 19:12.30 | Xinhuan | 262 arena points require 1128(5s), 1290(3s) and 1501(2s) team rating. |
| 19:12.32 | |Jelly| | !ap 1500 |
| 19:12.58 | |Jelly| | ~sigh |
| 19:12.59 | purl | *sigh* |
| 19:13.06 | poit | WoW development is sooo frustrating |
| 19:13.18 | |Jelly| | Is it sad that I actually want my S2 robe over my S3 cause of the way it looks? |
| 19:13.30 | End | Maybe |
| 19:13.47 | End | but I'll be a sad individual with you! |
| 19:15.14 | |Jelly| | I just like the darker look :-\ |
| 19:15.45 | End | Which class? |
| 19:15.50 | |Jelly| | priest |
| 19:15.55 | End | ah |
| 19:15.57 | End | <- warlock |
| 19:16.18 | |Jelly| | Roll your face on the keyboard moar plz. :P |
| 19:16.25 | End | lol |
| 19:16.48 | |Jelly| | Have you seen the Boomkin video where every spell on the bar is Moonfire? |
| 19:16.59 | End | not a recent video |
| 19:17.11 | Gnarfoz | I've seen one, but that was before there even was a moonkin form |
| 19:17.17 | End | I remember a level 60 druid who spammed moonfire :P |
| 19:17.22 | |Jelly| | they all make me laugh |
| 19:17.25 | Snago | May I suggest a better facerolling sequence... Start with putting your nose on Curse of Shadows. Then roll like normal |
| 19:17.26 | End | he ran away from every battle because he ran out of mana :P |
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| 19:17.52 | |Jelly| | This was a redo of Soulja Boy |
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| 19:24.24 | Shirik|Ecole | :( Maldivia, do you have any suggestions on how to clean up a linked list? |
| 19:24.41 | Shirik|Ecole | right now the destructor is recursive |
| 19:24.46 | Shirik|Ecole | but I'm having the same problem :P |
| 19:25.50 | Shirik|Ecole | maybe if I change the calling convention to __fastcall |
| 19:26.33 | Shirik|Ecole | warning C4166: illegal calling convention for constructor/destructor |
| 19:26.34 | Shirik|Ecole | :( |
| 19:28.31 | Cide | paste the destructor? not that I know much c++ |
| 19:28.48 | Shirik|Ecole | it's pretty tiny :P |
| 19:29.20 | Cide | qq |
| 19:29.52 | Maldivia | clearing a linked list, that's simple |
| 19:30.23 | Shirik|Ecole | http://wowi.pastey.net/87808-27ss |
| 19:30.46 | Shirik|Ecole | I could theoretically traverse it in backwards order |
| 19:31.20 | Shirik|Ecole | but that would be O(n^2) |
| 19:31.24 | Maldivia | that can easily be done in a loop |
| 19:31.30 | Maldivia | and no need to do it backwards |
| 19:31.46 | Shirik|Ecole | mind explaining? |
| 19:31.54 | Maldivia | while (elem) { void *next = elem->next; delete elem; elem = next; } |
| 19:32.10 | Shirik|Ecole | you miss an issue |
| 19:32.21 | wereHamster | the problem is that delete elem will call the destructor of it |
| 19:33.10 | Shirik|Ecole | right |
| 19:33.12 | wereHamster | Shirik|Ecole: you'd need an explicit destructor which you could use.. |
| 19:33.13 | Shirik|Ecole | and that causes recusion |
| 19:33.39 | wereHamster | like elem.delete(); which will only clean up that one element |
| 19:33.52 | Shirik|Ecole | this should be so much easier |
| 19:33.55 | Shirik|Ecole | these all feel like hacks |
| 19:34.42 | Maldivia | and a backwards order wouldn't be O(n^2), would still be O(n) |
| 19:34.42 | wereHamster | while (elem) { void *next = elem->next; free(elem); elem = next; } is very much normal C code .. |
| 19:36.15 | cogwheel | clearing a list shouldn't be an operation of an individual element imo... |
| 19:36.22 | Maldivia | yeah, agree |
| 19:36.37 | cogwheel | which is probably part of the source of confusion |
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| 19:36.52 | Maldivia | that kind of defeats the purpose of a linked list - the ability to remove a single element and reattach the other two halfs |
| 19:37.01 | Cide | what would make more sense would be to connect the next element with the previous element in the case of a deletion imo |
| 19:37.08 | Cide | yeah |
| 19:38.07 | Maldivia | Shirik: you don't have an actual class that maintains the list, only the elements? |
| 19:41.02 | Shirik|Ecole | nope, just the elements |
| 19:41.14 | testlek | In frame.button:SetScript("OnClick", foo) is there a way to make frame.button think I clicked it with some sort of frame.button:Click() or something like that? |
| 19:41.14 | Shirik|Ecole | each element has a next pointer |
| 19:41.25 | Cide | no prev? |
| 19:41.28 | Shirik|Ecole | nope |
| 19:41.33 | Cide | ok, so you can't reattach |
| 19:41.47 | Shirik|Ecole | I mean, I can change all of this |
| 19:41.49 | Shirik|Ecole | I'd just prefer not to |
| 19:41.52 | Maldivia | Shirik: ok, usually I prefer having a class that maintains the list, that also makes destruction easier |
| 19:41.59 | Shirik|Ecole | this shouldn't be this difficult imho :P |
| 19:42.24 | Shirik|Ecole | also, yay, my new microcontroller just got in |
| 19:43.15 | testlek | omg nm stupid question |
| 19:43.17 | Maldivia | Shirik: what happens if you deletes not the head, but the second element in the list? |
| 19:43.19 | cogwheel | Shirik|Ecole: I still say mixing the concepts of "list" and "elements of said list" is causing the difficulty :P |
| 19:44.15 | Maldivia | Shirik: I'd remove the recursive destructor, and make a utility method that loops through it instead |
| 19:45.15 | enum | shouldn't the Globals GOLD, SILVER, COPPER work? seems like since 2.4.2 they stopped working |
| 19:45.20 | enum | or I'm not accessing them right |
| 19:45.28 | Maldivia | enum: they were removed |
| 19:45.29 | Industrial | if I do frame:SetAttribute('type2', 'menu') and frame.menu = function() end should that function launch on rightclicking someone? |
| 19:45.40 | enum | fun fun |
| 19:45.43 | Cide | enum: append _AMOUNT |
| 19:45.43 | enum | thank Maldivia |
| 19:45.46 | Cide | and they're there |
| 19:45.51 | enum | ah |
| 19:45.55 | enum | thx Cide |
| 19:45.57 | Maldivia | well, not exactly there |
| 19:46.04 | Cide | they were changed some, iirc |
| 19:46.05 | Industrial | Shirik|Ecole: watcha makin? |
| 19:46.09 | enum | what do you mean? |
| 19:46.14 | Maldivia | old version COPPER = "Copper", new version COPPER_AMOUNT = "%d Copper" |
| 19:46.18 | Cide | ya |
| 19:46.21 | Cide | what Maldivia said |
| 19:46.30 | Shirik|Ecole | cogwheel: I don't entirely agree |
| 19:46.31 | enum | aah |
| 19:46.36 | Shirik|Ecole | none of the points have any real meaning without the next |
| 19:46.45 | Shirik|Ecole | but I guess it's a difference of opinion |
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| 19:47.13 | enum | so no more need for tonumber(item:match("(%d+)%s+" .. GOLD))? |
| 19:47.25 | enum | eh, I'll test it out |
| 19:47.27 | enum | thanks again |
| 19:47.28 | cogwheel | Shirik|Ecole: then wereHamster's method = win imo |
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| 19:50.47 | Shirik|Ecole | Industrial: Lines :) |
| 19:50.58 | Shirik|Ecole | that's about all I can say |
| 19:51.00 | Shirik|Ecole | sorry |
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| 19:51.28 | Shirik|Ecole | apparently I have updates to install |
| 19:51.29 | Industrial | no prob |
| 19:51.30 | Shirik|Ecole | so byes :) |
| 19:52.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm scared to install sp3 |
| 19:52.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 19:53.11 | Maldivia | I just did... only problem I had was finding a patched uxtheme.dll file afterwards - and that wasn't hardern than openeing a browser and googling it :) |
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| 19:54.08 | MentalPower | I've installed SP3 on two machines now, no issues yet |
| 19:54.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | ah crap |
| 19:54.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | it won't break on my hacked uxtheme will it? |
| 19:54.37 | MentalPower | it would've been three machines, but I decided to upgrade the third one to vista instead :) |
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| 19:55.04 | Maldivia | Mr_Rabies2: it'll just replace your hacked uxtheme with a new version, and you'll be presented with win 2k look and feel when you boot next time |
| 19:55.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | ah |
| 19:55.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | any clue why my desktop occasionally drops back to win2k look until i fuck around in themes after boots from time to time? |
| 19:55.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i stopped following the hacke uxtheme thing a while ago |
| 19:57.29 | Maldivia | no idea, never have that problem |
| 20:00.35 | enum | hmm ok. Maldivia got a q for ya if you don't mind.. before, I was using GOLD,SILVER,COPPER to ensure my addon worked across multiple languages.. so, for example: tonumber(item:match("(%d+)%s+" .. GOLD))? would return to me 1 if 1 gold was looted, now, using GOLD_AMOUNT I just get back %d Gold |
| 20:00.49 | enum | should I just stop using the global all together? |
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| 20:01.32 | enum | nvm, I was doing it wrong |
| 20:01.33 | enum | sorry |
| 20:01.53 | kergoth | local gold = GOLD_AMOUNT:gsub("%%d", "(%%d+)"):match(foo) |
| 20:02.04 | kergoth | er, thats wrong, but you get the point |
| 20:02.10 | kergoth | :P |
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| 20:06.29 | Maldivia | foo:match( GOLD_AMOUNT:gsub("%%d", "(%%d+)") ) -- should work, yeah :) |
| 20:06.43 | kergoth | :) |
| 20:07.34 | Snago | Mr_Rabies2: I have the exact opposite problem. Sometime when I boot up my desktop has reverted to the XP theme |
| 20:11.47 | Industrial | Snago: me 2 |
| 20:12.45 | Snago | It's not a big problem since I don't boot up very often but it's still annoying when it happens |
| 20:14.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think it's because i used to use themexp or something back in the day |
| 20:14.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | stylexp? |
| 20:21.16 | enum | thanks kergoth... if figured it out. tonumber(item:match(GOLD_AMOUNT:gsub("%%d", "(%%d+)"))) |
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| 20:32.51 | |Jelly| | targettarget is a valid unit, right? |
| 20:33.32 | haste | depends on your definition of valid |
| 20:33.54 | haste | it's valid in the form that you'll get information from it by using the Unit* commands |
| 20:34.01 | |Jelly| | UnitClass("targettarget") |
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| 20:34.06 | haste | it's invalid in the way that you don't get events triggered for it |
| 20:35.18 | |Jelly| | Is there an event fired when the ToT changes? |
| 20:35.40 | ckknight | UNIT_TARGET where arg1 = "target" |
| 20:35.46 | Industrial | Anyone have an example of how to make buttons change based on stance with a SecureStateHeader and statedriver? By that I don't mean ActionBarAddonX that has 1000 lines of code around it to encompass anything the user might like to configure about the states/addon. |
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| 20:35.55 | Industrial | http://pastebin.com/m78b58a17 |
| 20:36.04 | Industrial | line 90 |
| 20:37.13 | foxlit | lines 47-50 are better, imo |
| 20:37.37 | Industrial | heh |
| 20:37.45 | Industrial | well it'd mess up if I didnt |
| 20:37.47 | Industrial | >_> |
| 20:38.13 | Industrial | actually... used to... |
| 20:38.24 | Industrial | thats from 2 patches ago :o |
| 20:44.02 | Lunessa | Industrial: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=50956831&postId=508226111&sid=1#5 |
| 20:44.58 | Duman | forums PHAIL |
| 20:45.07 | Duman | The following error was encountered: |
| 20:45.08 | Duman | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:45.08 | Duman | The system returned: |
| 20:45.08 | Duman | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:46.48 | Lunessa | Yeah. They fall down go boom. |
| 20:48.32 | Industrial | :< |
| 20:48.36 | Industrial | thanks for the linky tho |
| 20:50.08 | Lunessa | that's a tutorial on StateHeaders and StateDrivers. |
| 20:50.12 | Industrial | k |
| 20:50.50 | Xuerian | Awesome, bookmarked |
| 20:54.49 | Industrial | if I can reach it ;P |
| 20:55.00 | Industrial | (this belongs on a wiki) |
| 20:55.23 | cogwheel | Industrial: you could look at v1.1 of CogsBar |
| 20:55.55 | Lunessa | maleiron was planing to put it up somewhere. I just recalled he'd written it, so I searched for it. |
| 20:55.59 | cogwheel | but instead of using SecureStateDriverTemplate you would use RegisterStateDriver("header", "[stance:0]0;[stance1]1 etc..." |
| 20:56.22 | cogwheel | s/use/use SecureStateHeaderTemplate and/ |
| 20:59.45 | Lunessa | Again the forums fall down go boom. MAN |
| 21:00.01 | Lunessa | I may be forced to do some actual work. |
| 21:00.56 | DARKGuy | haha |
| 21:01.00 | DARKGuy | I'm at work |
| 21:01.02 | DARKGuy | not working at all |
| 21:01.03 | DARKGuy | :D |
| 21:01.15 | kamdis | I think that's a common theme in this channel. |
| 21:01.30 | Lunessa | They jacked with my schedule and I have to work until 7pm. Which is the suck. |
| 21:02.22 | Lunessa | Normally, that wouldn't bother me... but they switched me to days... and I'm here from 8am to 7pm. |
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| 21:25.58 | alestane | Industrial...it actually got a lot easier a patch or two ago. Let me see if I can post the example. |
| 21:27.44 | alestane | Industrial: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/87818 |
| 21:29.23 | alestane | That's basically a copy of the standard action bar. |
| 21:36.34 | Duman | blizz needs to buy some more servers for their forums |
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| 21:37.16 | Guillotine | nah, they just need to ace them |
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| 21:38.51 | MentalPower | ~lart Guillotine |
| 21:38.51 | purl | urinates on Guillotine |
| 21:38.54 | Shirik | hi again |
| 21:39.02 | Shirik | wow, that's a hardcore ~lart |
| 21:39.07 | kd3 | ya |
| 21:39.07 | Guillotine | kinky |
| 21:39.16 | MentalPower | I've never seen that one before actually |
| 21:40.40 | Shirik | 'js 9demtofy |
| 21:40.51 | Shirik | yeah |
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| 21:41.04 | Lopeppeppy | With cheese |
| 21:43.51 | Shirik | Industrial, ping? |
| 21:46.04 | Industrial | Shirik: pong |
| 21:47.16 | Shirik | Found out I can say a few things, but not much :) Basically I was working on an internal tool so that we can track a paintbrush as it moves across a surface and then put it up on the screen |
| 21:48.53 | Industrial | okey heh >_> I made little leds go on and off >_> |
| 21:48.58 | Industrial | (with java :D!) |
| 21:49.08 | Shirik | you have to start somewhere :) |
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| 21:49.26 | Shirik | This is for a job so |
| 21:49.37 | Industrial | ah okay though tit was school stuff |
| 21:49.51 | Shirik | I'm still annoyed that there was no "real" solution |
| 21:49.55 | Shirik | there has to be one... |
| 21:49.56 | Industrial | right now im diving through http://wowcompares.com/2428278/FrameXML/SecureStateHeader.lua :p |
| 21:50.05 | Shirik | I could write a naked function but I really don't want to do that |
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| 21:51.35 | Duman | <02:38PM MentalPower> ~lart Guillotine |
| 21:51.35 | Duman | [02:38PM] * purl urinates on Guillotine |
| 21:51.36 | Duman | LOL |
| 21:52.27 | ScytheBlade1 | That is a pretty good one |
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| 21:59.21 | Lunessa | http://www.playgreenhouse.com/ |
| 22:02.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: yeah, it'll be fun to see that place in a week |
| 22:02.28 | Lunessa | looks like fun. |
| 22:04.49 | poit | there is a post on the wowforums where 'texture' 'count' or 'locked' = GetGuildBankItemInfo(tab, index) however I get a nil value error using any of those... the only one that seems to work is 'index' which spits out the location of the texture - anyone have an idea of why? |
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| 22:05.48 | poit | err not 'index' but 'item' |
| 22:07.30 | poit | any clues any clues? |
| 22:08.25 | DARKGuy | ttyl guys :D |
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| 22:17.32 | dvamp | any one having a problem with gatherer ? |
| 22:17.47 | Lopeppeppy | What problem exactly? |
| 22:18.13 | dvamp | when i loot a corps it talks about problem loeding something about copper |
| 22:19.21 | dvamp | is that just me or what since iv been running into errors with craftlist2 as well but i can live without that one |
| 22:19.59 | Lunessa | dvamp: Update your AddOns to solve that issue. |
| 22:20.02 | Lopeppeppy | There was indeed a change to how Blizz processes variables for coinage. Any of your addons dealing with that will have to be updated. As after every patch.... go out and update! |
| 22:20.21 | dvamp | thats the problem |
| 22:20.31 | dvamp | there is no new gatherer at least that im finding |
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| 22:20.46 | dvamp | unless there is a new way to snag it |
| 22:20.51 | MentalPower | dvamp: the fix is already made internally |
| 22:21.12 | dvamp | .... then how come when i updated i still got the error |
| 22:21.38 | MentalPower | you can either wait for a new release or use the dev versions available at http://zip.norganna.org |
| 22:22.23 | kamdis | CraftList2 was updated less than a minute ago on files.wowace.com. Might be worth another try at updating. |
| 22:22.33 | dvamp | oic didnt know that one |
| 22:22.57 | dvamp | for gatherer should i just download one .zip or do i need em all |
| 22:23.45 | dvamp | eh never mind ill just wait a few days for the update |
| 22:23.52 | dvamp | thanks though |
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| 22:34.33 | poit | there is a post on the wowforums where 'texture' 'count' or 'locked' = GetGuildBankItemInfo(tab, index) however I get a nil value error using any of those... the only one that seems to work is 'item' which spits out the location of the texture - anyone have an idea of why? |
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| 22:37.03 | Kaso | Show code on how you are using it |
| 22:38.40 | Kaso | poit, ^ |
| 22:38.44 | poit | ok just a sec |
| 22:38.55 | Kaso | also did you sort yourself out earlier for mouseover? i had to go out so couldnt anwser |
| 22:39.14 | poit | nahh I got it to where it chages when I click on something.. but mouseover doesnt work.. |
| 22:39.18 | poit | local item = GetGuildBankItemInfo("1","1"); |
| 22:39.18 | poit | FontString2:SetText("GuildBank Tab: " .. item); |
| 22:39.47 | Kaso | well thats your problem |
| 22:39.53 | poit | aroo? |
| 22:39.56 | Kaso | you're passing the variables as strings, why? |
| 22:40.09 | poit | I dunno.. that code works though |
| 22:40.18 | Kaso | how odd... |
| 22:40.19 | Xuerian | Just pass integers.. |
| 22:40.21 | Kaso | but ok |
| 22:40.24 | Xuerian | 0_o |
| 22:40.25 | Kaso | what doesnt work? |
| 22:42.03 | Kaso | i realise i said "variables" earlier instead of "arguments", whatever, so sue me |
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| 22:42.53 | poit | like I just said.. 'texture' 'count' or 'locked' all dont work.. none of the ones described in the guide.. only 'item' which isnt even listed (found it by just trial and error) works |
| 22:43.32 | poit | you can call them lumperdinks if you can make it work :cD |
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| 22:43.51 | Kaso | That code you showed didn't show you isng any of the other returns, show me some code of something that you think should work, but doesnt |
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| 22:44.06 | poit | just replace 'item' with 'texture' |
| 22:44.14 | poit | or any of the others |
| 22:44.41 | Kaso | local item,texture,count,isLocked = GetGuildBankItemInfo(1,1); |
| 22:44.43 | Kaso | thats how its done |
| 22:45.10 | poit | so I cant just do local texture = GetGuildBankblahblah ? |
| 22:45.45 | Kaso | nope, that'd just leave the variable "texture" with the value of "item" |
| 22:45.56 | Kaso | you can do local _,texture = .... |
| 22:46.30 | Kaso | i suggest giving chapter 5 of PIL a read: http://www.lua.org/pil/5.html |
| 22:46.33 | poit | ok your code doesnt work either.. I still get a nil value error |
| 22:47.12 | Kaso | im not sure entirely what values GetGuildBankItemInfo returns, but if you have DevTools or ace you can do /dump GetGuildBankItemInfo(1,1) to see a full list of what the function returns |
| 22:47.15 | Kaso | and work from there |
| 22:49.39 | poit | wow thats handy thanks lol |
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| 23:03.03 | poit | is _ some kind of wildcard? lol |
| 23:03.16 | ScytheBlade1 | No |
| 23:03.23 | ScytheBlade1 | It's just any other variable |
| 23:03.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Commonly used as a "throwaway" variable |
| 23:03.36 | poit | ah |
| 23:03.38 | bleeter | hehe, oceanic outage thread out to 2597 posts =)) |
| 23:03.49 | poit | thanks |
| 23:03.52 | Nargiddley | I think you're getting stuck on the names of variables, order is the only thing that matters |
| 23:04.01 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter: I have to wonder if they'll finally just drop some servers over there |
| 23:04.02 | poit | i am |
| 23:04.19 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: I have to wonder if they really have any fucking idea whatsoever |
| 23:04.20 | Kaso | yah, you can just as happliy use any other variable as throw away, but _ is the defacto standard |
| 23:04.20 | poit | because the wowwiki seems to show that variable names matter |
| 23:04.26 | ScytheBlade1 | hahaha |
| 23:04.41 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: and I do mean that in the nicest possible way, just seems they're all 'well, fuck.. clean outta ideas, nothing makes sense' |
| 23:04.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
| 23:04.48 | bleeter | oops, my bad.. soz for lang |
| 23:04.59 | ScytheBlade1 | No matter how you cut it, moving data across an ocean isn't exactly fast |
| 23:05.01 | Kaso | poit, it doesnt, a fucntion just returns a list of arguments, you just assign them to your variables whatever theyre called, by order |
| 23:05.27 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: I recall back when I was doing distributed DBs, there were very very tight restrictions on what we could do within certain latencies |
| 23:05.58 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: slip one commit outside those boundaries, the whole app collapses in contention locks and the like |
| 23:06.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Ouch |
| 23:06.29 | bleeter | we were pushing the boundaries of Oracle... 7.. 8i? at the time |
| 23:07.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Should just setup a new cluster over there, move the data during downtime |
| 23:07.06 | bleeter | 'thou shall not place nodes more than 200km's apart' and stuff like that |
| 23:07.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Put a new sticky on general |
| 23:07.23 | ScytheBlade1 | "There you go, you annoying pricks" |
| 23:07.35 | ScytheBlade1 | "Now quit bugging us" |
| 23:07.56 | Lunessa | mmm... new data center.. it's got that new computer smell. |
| 23:07.59 | bleeter | I suspect that it doesn't help that, once again, each and every night all Oceanic realms are showing as 'high' or 'locked' population |
| 23:08.13 | bleeter | Lunessa: that smell's almost as god as a new book :) |
| 23:08.15 | bleeter | *good |
| 23:08.39 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter: eh k... then add another realm to the cluster and hit the "shuffle population" button ;D |
| 23:08.40 | Lunessa | I love the smell of ozone in the morning... it's the smell of fresh electronics. |
| 23:09.22 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: they did that in December, and again in January (think there may have been another in March... don't quote me on that, though) |
| 23:09.34 | bleeter | actually, last month |
| 23:09.51 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter: no no, I mean randomly distribute both alliance and horde evenly among all of the servers |
| 23:09.55 | ScytheBlade1 | And don't even give them a say in it ;D |
| 23:09.57 | bleeter | oh, yeah |
| 23:10.12 | bleeter | I've been advocating forced realm splits for a number of realms for over a year ;) |
| 23:10.40 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: fix your nick, it's annoying :P |
| 23:10.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Screw splits, just automatically place everyone somewhere else, and balance the A:H ratio while you're at it |
| 23:10.51 | ScytheBlade1 | What's annoying? What's wrong? |
| 23:11.55 | bleeter | you normally get around with the 1? I've never noticed it before :P |
| 23:12.06 | Drundia | they really should balance the damn A:H ratio or Lake Wintergrasp will be permanent Alliance buff on 99% of realms |
| 23:12.07 | ScytheBlade1 | It's.... *always* been that way |
| 23:12.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Like, I'm 20 now |
| 23:12.27 | ScytheBlade1 | And it's been this way since I was 12 :P |
| 23:12.42 | bleeter | ok, I'm just an unobservant old blind bastard then :P |
| 23:12.46 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 23:12.51 | ScytheBlade1 | No worries |
| 23:12.54 | bleeter | inobservant |
| 23:12.57 | bleeter | hmm |
| 23:12.58 | bleeter | illiterate, too |
| 23:12.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Likewise, 'Sbo' on the forums and in-game |
| 23:14.09 | Lunessa | "Hi, we know you really wanted to play on RP Server Kirin Tor as a Draenei Male Shaman, but Gorganash is short much needed Horde players, so you've been reassigned to play an Undead Female Priest. Thank you for paying us $15.00 this month. Wanker." |
| 23:14.21 | ScytheBlade1 | lol @ Wanker |
| 23:14.57 | Kaso | wanker is the king of insults |
| 23:15.03 | Lunessa | Very quickly Blizzard would find all of it's customers playing something else. |
| 23:15.13 | Drundia | At the very least they should ensure faction balance on PVP servers |
| 23:15.39 | Drundia | But I heard PVP servers are far more balanced that way |
| 23:15.50 | Lopeppeppy | Drundia, ever read "The Cat Who Walked Through Walls" ? |
| 23:16.05 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: I have. :P |
| 23:16.28 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa -- Bill? |
| 23:16.51 | Lunessa | Mmm.. not ringing a bell, but... it's been 10 years. |
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| 23:42.36 | Drundia | Lopeppeppy, hmmm, don't think so |
| 23:42.59 | Lopeppeppy | It's a good book, highly recommended. Heinlein has a lot to say about things. |
| 23:44.47 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: ping |
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| 23:56.27 | End | moo? |
| 23:56.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Ack |
| 23:56.28 | End | moo! |
| 23:56.38 | ScytheBlade1 | We've got a blue in CSF saying that /in is illegal :( |
| 23:56.46 | End | lawl |
| 23:56.48 | Lopeppeppy | Interesting. |
| 23:57.06 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=6440916407&pageNo=1&sid=1#16 |
| 23:57.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Go, Peppy! Make the world right again! |
| 23:57.12 | ScytheBlade1 | ;) |
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| 23:58.11 | Lopeppeppy | But... Malkorix speaks truthly. |
| 23:58.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Ha, an edit |
| 23:58.46 | Lopeppeppy | I think his edit is maybe more clear than his original, yup. |
| 23:58.48 | ScytheBlade1 | I loaded the thread and afk'd :P |
| 23:58.49 | Lopeppeppy | Often the case with us all. |
| 23:59.20 | End | He's trying to confuse people! |
