| 00:12.07 | art3mis | b obscene b b obscene |
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| 00:14.33 | art3mis | Quothe the Raven "404" |
| 00:15.07 | art3mis | http://www.bibi.org/box/2007/07/404_Debian.jpg |
| 00:17.34 | art3mis | http://a569.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/103/l_28a404ed57b5332cb9ae69716300f5c8.jpg |
| 00:19.28 | art3mis | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/02/29/funny-pictures-pillages-with-cuteness/ |
| 00:20.21 | Kaso | art3mis, hmmm... i suspect that sign might have been faked! Everyone knows animals prefer blue spay paint! |
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| 00:23.30 | art3mis | they thought it was blue ;) |
| 00:23.57 | art3mis | is it wrong that i just ate 1lb of cheese? |
| 00:24.03 | art3mis | and nothing else with it? |
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| 00:26.27 | Kaso | ive done that before |
| 00:26.32 | Kaso | quite a few times.. |
| 00:31.08 | Nechckn | Mmmmm.... Extra sharp cheddar |
| 00:31.26 | Nechckn | I could do a few pounds of that rotten crap =) |
| 00:35.22 | art3mis | i like medium |
| 00:35.30 | JoshBorke | medium well myself |
| 00:35.31 | art3mis | sharp leaves a bitter taste in my mouff |
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| 00:35.56 | ScytheBlade1 | 11 pounds of cheese? |
| 00:36.04 | art3mis | 1lb |
| 00:36.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Stupid l and 1 |
| 00:36.23 | art3mis | could you imagine 11lbs of cheese |
| 00:36.28 | art3mis | i'd be backed up til xmas |
| 00:36.30 | ScytheBlade1 | I was trying to, and failing |
| 00:36.44 | art3mis | incapble of eating any other food for weeks |
| 00:36.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Nah |
| 00:36.57 | ScytheBlade1 | You'd have a hospital trip |
| 00:37.01 | art3mis | heh |
| 00:46.57 | bleeter | so it'd seem the exploit of the week is to be a shammie, pop your fire elemental around some lowbies, and then log out. |
| 00:47.11 | ScytheBlade1 | ... hahaha |
| 00:47.12 | bleeter | fire ele then attacks anything nearby |
| 00:47.16 | bleeter | including same faction |
| 00:47.31 | JoshBorke | heh |
| 00:47.43 | bleeter | seen maybe half a dozen 'is this a sploit' posts this week about it |
| 00:47.56 | bleeter | (which, of course it is) |
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| 00:48.12 | bleeter | well, if not exploit at least faction griefing |
| 00:48.20 | bleeter | anyways, you've all een warned now :) |
| 00:48.23 | bleeter | *been |
| 00:58.40 | MentalPower | --> pp(getmetatable"") |
| 00:58.41 | batbot | MentalPower: @ [string "return pp(getmetatable"")"]:1: attempt to call global 'pp' (a nil value) |
| 00:58.49 | MentalPower | --> getmetatable"" |
| 00:58.49 | batbot | MentalPower: > leave this alone |
| 00:58.55 | Kaso | hah |
| 00:59.07 | Kaso | you got told! |
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| 01:04.36 | Lopeppeppy | Hate, hate, hate how Guildportal is behaving right now. |
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| 01:41.01 | hi11ie | does CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL_JOIN fire for the normal channels like zone channels and trade etc.? or only for custom channels? |
| 01:41.25 | MentalPower | prolly all channels |
| 01:42.08 | MentalPower | check wowwiki |
| 01:42.20 | hi11ie | that's where i got it from |
| 01:43.23 | Kaso | i'm going to say 99% all channels |
| 01:43.44 | Kaso | but if not |
| 01:43.47 | Kaso | ~tias |
| 01:43.47 | purl | tias is, like, try it and see |
| 01:46.37 | Kaso | purl, tias is <reply> Try it and see! |
| 01:46.38 | purl | ...but tias is already something else... |
| 01:46.45 | Kaso | purl, no tias is <reply> Try it and see! |
| 01:46.46 | purl | Kaso: okay |
| 01:46.51 | Kaso | ~tias |
| 01:46.51 | purl | Try it and see! |
| 01:50.39 | MentalPower | ~seen cide |
| 01:50.41 | purl | cide <n=Cide@hus110a.bobbnet.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 4h 27m 44s ago, saying: 'that's not being mistaken'. |
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| 02:41.51 | bleeter | has kd3's interwebz totally collapsed, or did he get tired of us all? |
| 02:42.26 | JoshBorke | he hates you |
| 02:42.32 | JoshBorke | so if you leave, he'll come back |
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| 02:42.53 | Gngsk | harsh :\ |
| 02:43.05 | bleeter | harsh but true |
| 02:43.42 | MentalPower | bleeter: what did you do to kd3? |
| 02:44.01 | JoshBorke | but leave the bot |
| 02:44.02 | bleeter | flava beans and a nice cianti |
| 02:44.15 | JoshBorke | <3 |
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| 02:48.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Guillotine: ping! |
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| 03:04.55 | Guillotine | ScytheBlade1: pong |
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| 03:06.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Guillotine: you on waffles by chance? |
| 03:06.21 | Guillotine | waffles? |
| 03:06.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Never mind then |
| 03:06.36 | Guillotine | I like waffles. But I'm on a chair, not waffles |
| 03:06.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Guy with your same name on this website :P |
| 03:06.52 | Guillotine | hmm. not me |
| 03:07.20 | ScytheBlade1 | I was about to compliment you on your taste of music too ;) |
| 03:07.28 | hi11ie | hm. it seems -- register function hooks |
| 03:09.21 | hi11ie | CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL_JOIN doesn't seem to fire for me when I add an AddMessageEventFilter for it |
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| 03:41.44 | Tekkub | http://www.snotr.com/video/1126 |
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| 04:22.56 | Lopeppeppy | Anyone have any rumors why GuildPortal is so molasses slow lately? |
| 04:25.21 | Shirik | purl, ping |
| 04:25.23 | purl | pong |
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| 04:54.00 | Nom- | lol... that rogue who tanked Mother Sharaz is crazy XD |
| 04:55.28 | Nom- | 102.6% avoidance with all dodge, parry, to miss |
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| 05:01.29 | [Liquidor] | Hi everyone :-) |
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| 05:05.21 | cncfanatics | g'morning |
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| 05:16.19 | Tekkub | fucking addictive roasted garlic triscuits |
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| 05:43.10 | enum | using COMBAT_LOG_UNFILTERED I want to capture all damage that occurs. Would I need to grab SWING, SPELL, SPELL_PERIODIC, and ENVIROMENTAL _DAMAGE? or is there a way to say grab it all? |
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| 05:44.01 | enum | nvm |
| 05:53.04 | MentalPower | enum: subEvent:match(".*_DAMAGE$") |
| 05:55.55 | bleeter | ugh, which idiot changed the text input boxes on the Blizz forums to Black text on White background?? |
| 05:56.06 | bleeter | they need a heavy lart with a UI manual |
| 05:56.17 | bleeter | ahhh, I see Zoot recently ran away |
| 05:56.26 | Tekkub | nut kicking is more effective |
| 05:56.35 | bleeter | sounds good |
| 05:56.42 | ScytheBlade1 | More like his connection ran away from him |
| 05:56.52 | bleeter | guildie reckons it reminds them of doing homework papers lol |
| 05:59.23 | enum | MentalPower: yeah.. I'm a little slow.. I asked the question, and then it came to me |
| 05:59.25 | bleeter | Tekkub: so I presume you agree black on white for input boxes, when the whole site is dark in colour, is fail? |
| 05:59.54 | bleeter | personally, makes me wanna poke my eyes out |
| 06:00.00 | Tekkub | *shrug* I think the o boards are fail, I don't go near then |
| 06:00.03 | bleeter | hang on, maybe it's subterfuge to stop folks from posting |
| 06:00.05 | Tekkub | except for The Thread |
| 06:00.09 | bleeter | lol fair call =)) |
| 06:04.22 | Gngsk | bleeter, still yellow text on blue background for me |
| 06:04.48 | bleeter | yeah, others are saying the same, but I fired up IE7 and got the same as what I'm seeing in FF2.x |
| 06:05.06 | bleeter | so doubt it's a local FF cache issue thing |
| 06:05.09 | bleeter | weird |
| 06:05.34 | MentalPower | FF2 here |
| 06:05.45 | ccox | gngsk - even worse... |
| 06:05.46 | MentalPower | white text blue background |
| 06:06.05 | ccox | MP - someone wants your eyes to bleed |
| 06:06.14 | MentalPower | lol |
| 06:07.08 | bleeter | http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh56/kantankerus/forum_ugh_questionmark.jpg |
| 06:07.41 | enum | MentalPower: question.. using your example, how would you 'exclude' ENVIROMENTAL? |
| 06:07.47 | bleeter | have another CSF poster reporting similar, others not.. weird indeed. |
| 06:08.29 | MentalPower | bleeter: Ctrl+F5? |
| 06:08.42 | MentalPower | enum: why would you want to exclude environ damage? |
| 06:08.48 | bleeter | MentalPower: I did better, I tried another browser completely :P |
| 06:08.59 | MentalPower | IE and FF share some settings |
| 06:09.15 | enum | because I only want to include npc / player induced damage |
| 06:09.36 | enum | hmmm.. maybe it would be better if I used UNIT_COMBAT |
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| 06:20.23 | [Liq] | Hi everyone :-) |
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| 07:00.53 | Grumsarg | Any experienced hunters about or those fond of DPS calculations and intimate with the knowledge of how dual-wielding works? |
| 07:01.30 | Elessdy | ah, well, i was pretty familiar with it. i might be able to answer. |
| 07:02.10 | Grumsarg | I have the problem of not being very good at math, so for raw DPS, I can never tell if two specific weapons are better then one. |
| 07:02.32 | Industrial | if you are ahunter your weapons are only for stats |
| 07:02.40 | Elessdy | well, as a hunter, if you're playing it ranged, it's not really important |
| 07:03.31 | Elessdy | if you're comparing stat-equivalent weapons, go for a single, slow, 2h weapon for raptor strikes in pvp, but otherwise you won't be using melee |
| 07:03.33 | Industrial | so usually until you can get bigger weps like sonic spear from kara or something, dual wielding is better for stats |
| 07:03.36 | Grumsarg | That is true.. and later I'll want to go with two weapons anyhow for extra enchant bonuses.. |
| 07:03.58 | Elessdy | now, if you've chosen to specialize in melee, as some people do, i'm afraid my experience won't help here |
| 07:04.05 | Grumsarg | Yeah, I'm playing on a RPPvP server.. not really by personal choice, but because my friend plays there. |
| 07:04.21 | Grumsarg | Nope, I went Beast Master, following BRK's talent guide. |
| 07:04.58 | Industrial | mostly stack agi and sta and you are fine :P |
| 07:05.39 | Grumsarg | Maybe I should go with the two weapons.. one does include an AP bonus. |
| 07:05.58 | Industrial | then its better :) |
| 07:06.08 | Elessdy | hmm, bran chips do not keep me full for long |
| 07:06.10 | Grumsarg | That reminds me. I have two rings can't decide between. +6 Agi or +3 Agi/Stam? |
| 07:06.18 | Industrial | 6 agi |
| 07:06.46 | Industrial | if you are BM, your pet does the tanking anyway so more ap and crit is usually better for soloing |
| 07:06.56 | Elessdy | don't ignore stamina, but given a choice like that, it's definitely better to head for more damage |
| 07:07.15 | Industrial | you can handle 3/4 mobs by trapping and letting the pet tank 3 and healing the pet fine as hunter heh :P |
| 07:07.27 | Industrial | damn, now i wann aplay my hunter again |
| 07:07.30 | Industrial | >_> |
| 07:07.39 | Grumsarg | My skills as a hunter are flawed, I'm sure. I don't know traps and I really don't know CC. I'm level 34.. |
| 07:07.47 | Elessdy | careful there, Industrial, your pet will need some fancy attacking to hold aggro on 3 mobs when you heal it |
| 07:07.59 | Grumsarg | Only recently did I get into macros and made one for Pet Attack and Hunter's Mark. |
| 07:08.05 | Industrial | I've done packs of 6 :p |
| 07:08.17 | Industrial | kite kite, ice trap etc :> |
| 07:08.41 | Industrial | Grumsarg: That's ok, youll learn :) |
| 07:08.49 | Industrial | BRK did some videos to explain chain trapping |
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| 07:10.04 | Grumsarg | What is kiting? |
| 07:10.20 | Elessdy | making an enemy follow you without being able to hit you |
| 07:10.26 | Industrial | its slowing down the enemy so he cant get into your meelee range/hit you, while hitting him |
| 07:10.38 | Grumsarg | My attacks so far consist of a sting, forget which, my pet, Arcane shot, and Raptor Strike if needed.. |
| 07:10.44 | Grumsarg | Ahhh. |
| 07:11.07 | Elessdy | as a hunter, i was able to solo almost all of the group quests in outland |
| 07:11.17 | Industrial | yup |
| 07:11.29 | Elessdy | which was good, because by the time i took my hunter out there, few people were doing them any more |
| 07:12.06 | Industrial | I just get a 70 to run me though an area which ive completed and only have the group quests left :p |
| 07:12.13 | Elessdy | that was almost fun |
| 07:12.31 | Elessdy | although i had completely forgotten what fun was by that point |
| 07:12.53 | Grumsarg | Right now.. my 'fun' consists of just mucking around with low-level quests for reptuation and not have to deal with contested zones. |
| 07:16.08 | Industrial | I got a lot more skillwise out of playing hunter then any other class, but it's the class that i've played most |
| 07:16.58 | Grumsarg | Cool. I'll have to come to you for tips and advice. |
| 07:17.16 | Elessdy | it takes a lot of work to get fluent with a hunter |
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| 07:37.45 | Grumsarg | Anyone play on The Venture Co. by any chance? |
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| 10:10.43 | cladhaire | CentOS, Debian, Fedora, Gentoo, OpenSuse, Ubuntu. Whats you're preference for a basic server environment? |
| 10:11.03 | Punkie | centos |
| 10:11.53 | haste | debian |
| 10:12.24 | _rane | ^ |
| 10:12.30 | haste | I use gentoo also tho' |
| 10:12.43 | [Ammo] | debian |
| 10:13.38 | sacarasc | slackware |
| 10:13.43 | [Ammo] | haha slack :) |
| 10:13.46 | [Ammo] | ancient |
| 10:13.48 | cladhaire | i just dont understand why centos packaging sucks so much |
| 10:13.56 | cladhaire | yum is nice |
| 10:14.05 | cladhaire | but .. why in the hell would lighttpd come without mod_magnet |
| 10:14.15 | haste | because it hates lua! |
| 10:14.25 | cladhaire | indeed |
| 10:15.58 | cladhaire | i should just compile my own shit |
| 10:16.02 | cladhaire | that always makes me happier in the long run |
| 10:16.06 | cladhaire | in theory |
| 10:17.04 | Arrowmaster | also throwing in my vote for debian |
| 10:20.28 | klip | debian |
| 10:21.48 | haste | I usually end up compiling most stuff, so I just run gentoo mostly :p |
| 10:24.26 | cladhaire | i hate that free/openbsd aren't options |
| 10:24.34 | cladhaire | I <3 ports |
| 10:29.11 | cladhaire | rebuilding with debian, then off to harden it. |
| 10:36.13 | Industrial | sitting ona hometrainer |
| 10:36.13 | Industrial | lol |
| 10:36.16 | Industrial | at school |
| 10:36.19 | Industrial | using it for a project |
| 10:37.08 | Industrial | cladhaire: arch? :D |
| 10:37.57 | Industrial | never tried it for a server, but stable is stable. least it doesnt come with any extra crap just like gentoo, and you can recompile and package just fine imo |
| 10:38.19 | cladhaire | debian is making me happy |
| 10:38.22 | cladhaire | i forgot how much i liked it :P |
| 10:38.27 | cladhaire | cause shit just makes sense |
| 10:38.40 | cladhaire | apt-get > yum imo as well |
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| 10:52.24 | art3mis | those insurance ads that have animated dancers on them confuse me |
| 10:53.35 | art3mis | cladhaire: why isnt fbsd a hosting option? |
| 10:53.41 | art3mis | err server option |
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| 12:18.01 | Mikk | debian stable for hosting = fucking win |
| 12:18.25 | Mikk | the amount of testing on things going into the stable branch is silly |
| 12:20.29 | Mikk | and if you absolutely need new things, gogo backports |
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| 12:42.33 | Saint-N | guill is an unpaid intern at blizzarD? |
| 12:42.44 | Saint-N | so technically he answers to zoot now? |
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| 13:02.50 | Lopeppeppy | Hah! Happy No Socks Day! http://www.holidayinsights.com/moreholidays/May/nosocksday.htm |
| 13:04.02 | alestane | I must have gotten the memo without realizing it, I'm not wearing any socks. |
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| 13:05.00 | Lopeppeppy | No Socks Day is an important celebration! *nod* |
| 13:05.20 | Lunessa | No Socks Day? |
| 13:06.07 | Lopeppeppy | Today! |
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| 13:07.09 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/bshit/interview.jpg |
| 13:07.35 | Kalroth | he looks angry |
| 13:07.44 | Lunessa | he looks stoned. |
| 13:07.57 | Lopeppeppy | He looks jet lagged |
| 13:08.21 | Lunessa | I need a cheese danish and a cup of coffee... stat. |
| 13:08.56 | mikma | har har har! http://kuvaton.com/bshit/1_wtf.jpg |
| 13:08.57 | Lopeppeppy | I have none of that. Um... I have a banana I'll share? |
| 13:09.15 | Lunessa | That'll do. |
| 13:09.59 | Lopeppeppy | It's all yours. Nice pretty yellow, no brown spots either. My perfect banana, shared with you. |
| 13:09.59 | Lunessa | It took me 25 minutes to get from the freeway to my office. A trip that at my usual commute time takes 5 minutes. |
| 13:10.16 | Lopeppeppy | Accident, or road work? |
| 13:10.35 | Lunessa | Morning Rush Hour + construction. |
| 13:11.35 | Lopeppeppy | Must love road work. *sympathy* |
| 13:14.48 | Lunessa | Oh yeah. I love leaving my house extra early ... just for that. |
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| 13:16.54 | Lopeppeppy | Not like it's not already o'dark thirty when we leave home.... |
| 13:18.19 | Nom- | My god... .NET has some freakin awesome features |
| 13:19.03 | Nom- | You can actually write your objects, then compile them and add as a data type in SQL Server |
| 13:19.20 | Nom- | Which means when you do a raw update statement on the database, it causes the logic inside your objects to be run too |
| 13:19.45 | Kalroth | uhm, that's a feature of SQL 2005, not .NEt |
| 13:20.14 | Kalroth | You can do the same in SQL 2000, just with C/C++ |
| 13:20.43 | Nom- | ooo nifty |
| 13:20.55 | Nom- | I'm starting to see why .NET has such a massive uptake |
| 13:21.02 | Kalroth | ... |
| 13:21.08 | Kalroth | I just said it has nothing to do with .NET |
| 13:21.29 | mikma | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=3B19D149AD6960F6397A5B33BFEA84C6?topicId=5640954513&sid=1 |
| 13:21.35 | mikma | anyone else seen that bug? |
| 13:21.35 | Nom- | Yeah, but if you use .NET you pretty much always use SQL Server |
| 13:21.50 | Kalroth | And said feature is very, very, very rarely used anyways. You really don't want your own code to run in the same context as the SQL server. |
| 13:22.01 | Kalroth | Not in an environment where you want things to be stable anyways. :) |
| 13:22.14 | Snago | mikma: yes, had the same with Quartz |
| 13:22.20 | Nom- | Really? That sounds like something you would most definately use |
| 13:22.36 | Nom- | What tends to be the most commonly used thing for object persistence then ? |
| 13:22.38 | Snago | mikma: it happens with Blizz castbar as well? |
| 13:22.49 | mikma | Snago: i thought it's only with blizz castbar O_o |
| 13:23.21 | Kalroth | Nom-: For .NET? NHibernate :) |
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| 13:23.51 | Nom- | Seriously? LOL |
| 13:24.16 | Snago | mikma: It's UNIT_SPELLCAST_STOP getting sent for stuff like Lightning Shield procs that makes the castbar hide |
| 13:24.29 | Kalroth | It's pretty much the defacto standard out there for persistant objects, if you insist on using that. :) |
| 13:24.33 | Nom- | I think the ISP we just acquired has all their code in that data type stuff tho |
| 13:24.52 | Nom- | Coz apparently something like 90% of their business logic is in SQL Server stored procedures etc |
| 13:24.54 | mikma | Snago: err. that sucks big time, really |
| 13:25.05 | Kalroth | Nom-: Eww. :( |
| 13:25.26 | Snago | fixed it in Quartz by adding a check if unit ~= 'player' or UnitCastingInfo('player') then return end to the UNIT_SPELLCAST_STOP handler |
| 13:25.48 | mikma | ain't quarz a ace* addon? |
| 13:25.51 | Snago | yes |
| 13:26.02 | mikma | too bad :( |
| 13:26.57 | mikma | Snago: what about you writing a small addon to fix the default castbar? :) |
| 13:27.27 | Snago | ~framexml |
| 13:27.27 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wdnaddons.com/ |
| 13:27.30 | Nom- | On the opposite end of the scale, we don't have a single stored procedure anywhere :D |
| 13:28.18 | Snago | no purl, framexml is <reply>Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wowcompares.com/ |
| 13:28.23 | mikma | Snago: damn you |
| 13:28.28 | mikma | beat me with 3 seconds |
| 13:28.43 | mikma | ~framexml |
| 13:28.44 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wdnaddons.com/ |
| 13:28.53 | mikma | purl: no, framexml is <reply>Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wowcompares.com/ |
| 13:28.54 | purl | mikma: okay |
| 13:28.59 | Lopeppeppy | I was going to say, purl didn't acknlowedge.... there we go. |
| 13:28.59 | Snago | He didn't listen to me :( |
| 13:29.12 | mikma | you didn't know how to order him around |
| 13:29.15 | Lopeppeppy | Purl is a she, Snago. Maybe you forgot the flowers. |
| 13:29.31 | Beladona | heh |
| 13:29.43 | Snago | a she!? That can't be right.. There are no females on the interwebz |
| 13:29.49 | Lopeppeppy | Ahem. |
| 13:29.58 | Lopeppeppy | Speak for yourself, gender-neutral beast. |
| 13:30.03 | pezzt | I miss my laptop ;__; |
| 13:30.13 | Drundia | hmm |
| 13:30.15 | Drundia | ~flowers |
| 13:30.16 | purl | well, flowers is at http://www.flowers.com |
| 13:30.24 | pezzt | Lopeppeppy: you're a girl?! :o ... Can I touch you? |
| 13:30.41 | mikma | please touch me too |
| 13:30.42 | Lopeppeppy | Yes I am, no you can't. It's No Socks Day, celebrate that instead. :) |
| 13:30.45 | mikma | eventho i have balls |
| 13:30.52 | Drundia | i guess if purl doesn't listen you can try |
| 13:30.54 | Drundia | ~botsnack |
| 13:30.54 | purl | aw, gee, Drundia |
| 13:31.14 | Drundia | Firefox can't find the server at www.flowers.com. :( |
| 13:31.19 | |pez | Lopeppeppy: Aww :\ I like socks though, so... I'll continue wearing mine. |
| 13:31.46 | Drundia | Lopeppeppy, that's called hermaphrodite! |
| 13:32.33 | Lopeppeppy | Mine sees the site fine, Drundia. Check your DNS. |
| 13:33.34 | mikma | Snago: interested? |
| 13:33.55 | Snago | mikma: I'm looking in to it... gimme a min ;) |
| 13:34.16 | Drundia | yes, my DNS tends to fail a lot |
| 13:34.20 | mikma | Snago: if you get it fixed, you really should release it in wowi. that addon is needed :P |
| 13:35.12 | Nom- | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:36.28 | Nom- | Hmm... I can't decide whether I want to blow $4k on a Mac Pro or not :D |
| 13:36.36 | Nom- | So tempting |
| 13:36.39 | mikma | it's good... |
| 13:36.45 | mikma | just don't get the Air |
| 13:36.52 | Nom- | nonono |
| 13:36.54 | Nom- | Mac Pro |
| 13:36.57 | Nom- | Not MacBook Pro |
| 13:39.03 | mikma | Snago: please please dont ACEfyi it tho :P |
| 13:47.39 | Saint-N | im the evil midnight bomber what bombs at midnight yeah baby eyah yeah |
| 13:47.59 | Snago | mikma: Why the ace-hate? :( |
| 13:48.17 | Saint-N | it stole his pupy and bike as a small boy |
| 13:48.31 | mikma | Snago: it makes my computer freeze after spellcasts |
| 13:49.11 | Saint-N | the mac pros are pretty nice |
| 13:49.25 | Snago | mikma: But don't worry, it's 100% Ace-free ;) Not sure if it's working though. Want to test it? |
| 13:49.31 | Saint-N | but if yer gonna spend 4k for a machine why not get hardware you can choose and make a machine that destroys the mac in spec |
| 13:49.53 | mikma | Snago: of course i want to test it :) |
| 13:49.59 | Snago | mikma: http://ace.pastey.net/87446 |
| 13:51.24 | Ktron | Nom-, you don't |
| 13:51.31 | Ktron | Nom-, just think about it like this |
| 13:51.41 | mikma | Snago: i'll get back to you if it doesn't work. going to test it in pvp now |
| 13:52.44 | Snago | mikma: hehe, get back to me if it works too so I know if i should upload it somewhere or not ;) |
| 13:53.19 | mikma | Snago: i wonder, is there any way of injecting debug-messages when the bug should happen? |
| 13:53.37 | mikma | Snago: that way i could see what happened when it should have bugged |
| 13:57.01 | Ktron | Nom-, you could buy a hardcore XPS One or even a Alienware or Falcon Northwest for that price |
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| 13:58.23 | Snago | mikma: http://ace.pastey.net/87447 |
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| 14:12.41 | Adys | Does anyone know of an addon that shows all the quest objectives on the screen? |
| 14:12.49 | Lukian | there's a few |
| 14:12.52 | Lukian | I use questsfu |
| 14:12.59 | Adys | I used to have one, i need all 25 tho |
| 14:13.10 | Lukian | questsfu should do it |
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| 14:18.10 | Adys | aight thanks Lukian |
| 14:18.56 | Nom- | Ktron: The whole point is to get a mac... if I wanted another windows box, I'd go out and build it myself, like the last 4 computer i've had |
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| 14:21.31 | Ktron | Nom-, and the switch to mac is because?... Mac's prices are oh so padded at the high end I'd just generally not recommend buying a high end mac... If I really wanted a mac then I'd buy one with a nice form factor (something Mac is good at), and leave compute power to something I'd build myself or such |
| 14:22.59 | Nom- | Huh? |
| 14:23.08 | Nom- | The high end macs are worth every penny when you look at the hardware |
| 14:23.18 | Nom- | Mac Pro - Dual Quad Core Xeon |
| 14:23.34 | Nom- | The motherboard, and each CPU is worth ~ $900 AUD each |
| 14:24.00 | Nom- | The memory is easily enough $500 for 2GB |
| 14:24.07 | Nom- | Plus all the other parts.. it adds up qick |
| 14:24.09 | Nom- | *quick |
| 14:25.29 | Lunessa | If the man wants a Mac, let him get a Mac. Do you talk folks out of buying a Mustang because a custom car is better? |
| 14:25.57 | Nom- | I do, I'm trying to justify the price lol |
| 14:26.09 | Nom- | I don't *need* a dual quad core xeon |
| 14:26.13 | Nom- | But so much want XD |
| 14:26.35 | Lunessa | Yeah, I know the feeling. WANT often trumps NEED when I shop for hardware. :) |
| 14:26.46 | Ktron | Nom-, heh, yeah, if you find any applications that use eight cores for OSX :P |
| 14:27.09 | Nom- | If you're going to run VM's on it, you'll use them no worries |
| 14:27.27 | Nom- | Which I am going to do... will have Windows + Mac + Linux + Linux + Linux running in VM's when i'm working |
| 14:28.12 | Ktron | Lunessa, and if someone knew how to build high end trucks for cheap and ferrari made a pick up truck, I'd tell them to either get a ferrari sports car or build their own pick up |
| 14:28.31 | Ktron | Nom-, lol |
| 14:28.44 | Nom- | I'm deadly serious too :P |
| 14:29.02 | Nom- | RHEL 3 + Debian Woody (old!) + Ubuntu 6.10 |
| 14:29.23 | Saint-N | just setup a xen box on debian etch the other day |
| 14:29.31 | Ktron | Nom-, so, I wonder how good a system you could get five of for 750$, and then spend the 250$ left on a 5 port KVM and toys :) |
| 14:29.41 | Saint-N | im wondering if xen or ovs is a better performer |
| 14:29.56 | Nom- | lol Ktron ... that's a complete waste of resources |
| 14:30.01 | Saint-N | nom |
| 14:30.01 | Nom- | That's why you virtualise |
| 14:30.10 | Saint-N | get one decent dual quadcore |
| 14:30.17 | Saint-N | and a buncha nano machines ;'P |
| 14:30.37 | Saint-N | www.mini-itx.com |
| 14:30.38 | Nom- | bleh it's pointless not to virtualise these days |
| 14:30.40 | Nom- | It's sooo easy |
| 14:32.05 | Nom- | We're in the process of virtualising our production network atm |
| 14:32.10 | Saint-N | dude nano machines all around yer house |
| 14:32.10 | Nom- | Dual Quad Core Xeons + 32GB RAM + Fibre Chanel attached storage |
| 14:32.12 | Nom- | = zoom zoom |
| 14:32.16 | Saint-N | hidden in like shelves and cookie jars |
| 14:32.31 | Saint-N | actting as media machines for music and video and such |
| 14:32.49 | Nom- | pfft |
| 14:33.00 | Ktron | Nom-, virtualizing is fun times |
| 14:33.25 | Saint-N | pico nano and mini itx boxes are loads of fun too |
| 14:33.26 | Ktron | Nom-, hopefully you're not going to run graphical shells on all them, right? |
| 14:33.35 | Saint-N | and if you dont agree you're a comunist and the terrorists have won |
| 14:33.48 | Nom- | sif gui |
| 14:33.51 | Ktron | Nom-, at work somehow we think that we need to have full Gnome running on ever virtualized system... such a waste |
| 14:33.53 | Nom- | i do everything via SSH |
| 14:34.02 | Ktron | Nom-, approved |
| 14:34.10 | Saint-N | thats because they love gnomes |
| 14:34.20 | Nom- | There's only one production server on our whole network which is running a GUI |
| 14:34.24 | Ktron | Nom-, you don't happen to know whether you can use ssh -X w/o having Xorg running on the host, do you? |
| 14:34.34 | Nom- | That's our DB2 server, because all the funky DB2 tools are Java GUI apps |
| 14:35.23 | Nom- | Ktron: As far as I know, the point is that it redirects the comms which would normally be run on the local X server over TCP |
| 14:35.33 | Nom- | Ktron: So yeah... you need an X server running |
| 14:35.41 | Ktron | Nom-, unfortunate |
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| 14:35.48 | Nom- | Bah, Java isn't that bad any more |
| 14:36.03 | Saint-N | "isnt that bad" shouldnt be a benchmark on quality ;) |
| 14:36.09 | Ktron | Nom-, I'm trying to write GWT stuff at work right now, I have to use 1.4 Java too |
| 14:36.18 | Nom- | What's your preference then, if not Java ? |
| 14:36.29 | Ktron | Nom-, So all those things they finally improved? can't use them |
| 14:36.40 | Nom- | lol wtf |
| 14:36.42 | Nom- | why 1.4 ? |
| 14:36.59 | Ktron | Nom-, Google only implemented a version of 1.4 java in the GWT compiler |
| 14:37.25 | Ktron | Nom-, they're working on making a java 1.5 implementation now |
| 14:37.31 | Nom- | bah |
| 14:37.41 | Nom- | .NET is scary good for making AJAX driven web apps |
| 14:37.47 | Nom- | I've been familiarizing myself with it |
| 14:39.01 | Nom- | There's a project @ work, our CRM, which if we'd built it using just what I've picked up in .NET in the last few days |
| 14:39.07 | Nom- | Would have taken us half the time and been so much better |
| 14:39.48 | Nom- | The amount of hand-written javascript in that application |
| 14:39.51 | Nom- | It would make your head spin |
| 14:41.01 | Saint-N | ceiling |
| 14:41.14 | Saint-N | TADA, the Turtle, nature's suction cup |
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| 14:46.23 | Ktron | Nom-, yeah, so, just to make a table that you can sort |
| 14:46.49 | Ktron | I've already written one native javascript function, I'm expecting more |
| 14:50.50 | [Liq] | http://www.gameslah.com/evolution/iboxing.htm --- beat that |
| 14:53.37 | Nom- | umm there's a free javascript library to do that krka \ |
| 14:53.39 | Nom- | Ktron: |
| 14:54.50 | Ktron | Nom-, m? did I miss something? |
| 14:54.53 | Nom- | Ktron: http://www.kryogenix.org/code/browser/sorttable/ |
| 14:56.23 | Ktron | Nom-, yeah, so integrating that JS library into GWT I don't think is particularly easy |
| 14:56.53 | Ktron | Nom-, because I really want to provide GWT (the 1.4 Java that is compiled into JS) the ability to call a sort function, etc |
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| 14:57.05 | Ktron | Nom-, but I use sorttable all the time elsewhere :) |
| 14:59.54 | Saint-N | http://gizmodo.com/388195/first-person-rc-plane-almost-as-good-as-actually-flying |
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| 15:04.05 | Saint-N | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05/07/amd_server_roadmap_may_2008/ |
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| 15:07.18 | Crysli | Hi |
| 15:07.48 | Lopeppeppy | Morning. |
| 15:07.52 | Crysli | I got my new iMac yesterday <3 |
| 15:08.03 | Crysli | It's wonderful. |
| 15:08.18 | Saint-N | did you rub a puppy on it to make it blessed? |
| 15:08.53 | Crysli | I was short on puppies, but I used a kitten instead |
| 15:11.14 | Saint-N | http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/422579 |
| 15:11.24 | Saint-N | you might wanna discharge your monitor then ;P |
| 15:11.30 | Saint-N | kittys make static |
| 15:12.16 | Crysli | I thought I heard a crackle. |
| 15:14.22 | Lunessa | blessed are the puppies for they shall piddle on the carpet. |
| 15:14.23 | Crysli | Anyway, I'm having some trouble with kgPanels. I'm trying to anchor a panel to PitBullUnitFrame2, which is usually the target frame, but sometimes PitBullUnitFrame2 decides to be some other unit. |
| 15:14.36 | Crysli | Is there another name for that frame that doesn't change? |
| 15:18.34 | Saint-N | http://kotaku.com/388018/uwe-boll-vs-stride-gum |
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| 15:27.50 | Saint-N | http://www.shooshtime.com/sfw/24743_Failure-Does-A-Burnout-Right-Into-A-Parked-Car.html |
| 15:28.44 | Polarina | Serialising a number to a string of a constant size was a lot harder than serialising a recursive table. |
| 15:29.59 | Kaso | Saint-N, oh that is awesome |
| 15:32.22 | Nom- | anyone here use Visual Studio? I'm trying to work out how to skip out of the automatic quotes |
| 15:32.29 | Saint-N | aint it though |
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| 15:34.26 | Saint-N | http://cgi.fark.com/cgi/fark/vidplayer.pl?IDLink=3587848 |
| 15:34.33 | Saint-N | ^^ sneezing kitten |
| 15:36.04 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Jelly-dear! |
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| 15:44.57 | Randomeis | Oh gods and goddesses of WoW UI development, is it possible to tie a message to chars location? once they enter a x,x coordinate display x message? |
| 15:45.27 | Drundia | checks in OnUpdate |
| 15:47.16 | Kaso | yah, thats pretty much the only way, you can do event based stuff on entering zones/subzones but indviual coordsinates not |
| 15:49.08 | mikma | Snago: haven't seen any "bugcasts" yet :P |
| 15:49.29 | Kaso | http://www.windexshine.com/default.aspx?sId=5024 |
| 15:49.35 | Kaso | Someone needs better moderators |
| 15:50.15 | Randomeis | i was hoping to do some type of treasure hunt add on -_-. So the only message I can have it give is when they enter zones |
| 15:50.17 | Lopeppeppy | Oh... my... go... *laugh* |
| 15:50.43 | Saint-N | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=564675&in_page_id=1770 |
| 15:50.46 | Kaso | Randomeis, nonon, you could do checks using onupdate like Drundia said |
| 15:51.44 | Snago | mikma: What class are you using? |
| 15:51.57 | Kaso | Randomeis, http://www.wowwiki.com/UIHANDLER_OnUpdate |
| 15:52.00 | zenzelezz | Saint-N: five OnUpdates? |
| 15:52.09 | Saint-N | yes |
| 15:52.59 | mikma | Snago: shaman |
| 15:53.00 | Lopeppeppy | Baby hedgits! |
| 15:53.17 | Kaso | Not five mustache rides the ? :( |
| 15:53.30 | Lopeppeppy | Kaso! |
| 15:53.35 | Lopeppeppy | Bad code monkey. |
| 15:53.40 | Kaso | hehe |
| 15:53.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://casinonight.ytmnd.com/ |
| 15:54.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | AUGHHH |
| 15:54.33 | Saint-N | i think you need a mustache for that to work kaso |
| 15:54.43 | Saint-N | and no that one hair from the mole on your upper lip doesnt count |
| 15:55.02 | Snago | mikma: so it's working? |
| 15:55.23 | mikma | Snago: well so far haven't seen the bugcast, but can't say for certain that it "works" |
| 15:55.59 | Snago | mikma: cast lightning shield and get a mob to whack at you while you chain cast heals on yourself ;) |
| 15:56.42 | Snago | mikma: if it's not working the bar will disappear everytime lightning shield procs |
| 15:57.16 | Randomeis | thanks guys now I know what to ask for when I am able to find a UI dev contact |
| 15:58.20 | Snago | mikma: And could you test that the bar disappears like it should when you stop a cast early? (like movin mid-cast, jumping or pressing esc) |
| 16:00.01 | mikma | Snago: i could, but i don't know when it happens :D |
| 16:03.35 | Saint-N | http://youtube.com/watch?v=JAIOzM7SsMo |
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| 16:09.58 | Snago | mikma: you don't have any way of telling when LS proc? |
| 16:11.08 | Gngsk | an orb disappears |
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| 16:15.07 | mikma | Snago: na |
| 16:15.25 | Gngsk | mikma, an orb disappears :P |
| 16:15.54 | zenzelezz | doesn't the buff show a count? |
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| 16:17.15 | Snago | mikma: just keep spamming you longest heal and let the the mob hit you. recast LS as needed. Try the same without my fix and see if you notice any difference |
| 16:18.35 | Gngsk | snago, what'd you change differntly from what I did? |
| 16:19.43 | Snago | Gngsk: your fix for Quartz is working great for me :) We're talking about Blizz default cast bar |
| 16:19.52 | Gngsk | ahh, cool |
| 16:19.57 | Ktron | join #GWT |
| 16:20.06 | Kaso | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIoBXdQX_wY |
| 16:20.07 | Kaso | I love this |
| 16:20.14 | Snago | Ktron: Why? :P |
| 16:20.25 | Gngsk | if there's an issue with blizzard's castbar too they'll prolly just fix the event at some point I'd assume |
| 16:20.26 | Ktron | Snago, typo :) |
| 16:20.38 | Gngsk | missing / ? D: |
| 16:20.49 | Ktron | Quite possibly :) |
| 16:21.22 | Hjalte | ~seen lolzen |
| 16:21.24 | purl | i haven't seen 'lolzen', Hjalte |
| 16:21.46 | Snago | Gngsk: Yeah, either that or a fix similar to yours for Quartz |
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| 16:22.45 | Snago | Since I can't edit their lua files my fix for the blizz bar is kinda "hackish" :P http://ace.pastey.net/87446-6rbf |
| 16:23.37 | mikma | and to that code ^--- i've been using it now for a while in pvp and haven't seen a bugcast, yet. |
| 16:24.28 | Snago | mikma: What version are you using btw? First or the one that prints to chat? |
| 16:26.11 | Gngsk | yah, that looks like it should work. it's easy to test too |
| 16:28.01 | mikma | Snago: first one. should i add the print version so i know when it should bug? |
| 16:28.59 | Snago | mikma: If you can't tell when your LS proc, sure. |
| 16:29.12 | mikma | too busy looking else :P |
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| 16:36.19 | Snago | just tested it, works perfectly :) |
| 16:37.57 | mikma | :D |
| 16:41.03 | |pez | waha, the person I'm visiting this week, fell asleep on the sofa. |
| 16:41.13 | |pez | and he's so adorable. |
| 16:41.18 | |pez | making all kinds of cute sounds. |
| 16:41.38 | mikma | buttrape him |
| 16:41.56 | Lopeppeppy | mikma! |
| 16:42.04 | |pez | Nah, I think his girlfriend would be mad at me. :P |
| 16:42.09 | |pez | and my boyfriend be mad at me XD |
| 16:42.17 | mikma | well that just means one more buttrape |
| 16:42.27 | Saint-N | not if you used a toy ;) |
| 16:42.30 | Lopeppeppy | But they're both perfectly okay with you to visiting one another? *baffled* |
| 16:42.39 | |pez | Lopeppeppy: sure. :P |
| 16:43.09 | mikma | ~asd |
| 16:43.10 | purl | asd is, like, Advanced Sound Daemon at http://sourceforge.net/projects/asd/ |
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| 16:43.18 | mikma | ok, it's propably not that |
| 16:43.25 | hi11ie | does SendWho() run asynchronous? |
| 16:43.45 | |pez | Lopeppeppy: why wouldn't they? |
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| 16:44.03 | mikma | oh, right |
| 16:44.20 | mikma | |pez is yet another girl, or gay. |
| 16:44.37 | |pez | I'm a girl. |
| 16:45.06 | DARKGuy | there are no girls in irc |
| 16:45.27 | |pez | I'd prove it, but I have no means of doing so. :P |
| 16:45.30 | hi11ie | yea they are. the guys treat them like celebrities and hit on them profusely |
| 16:45.36 | Cide | |pez: didn't you already? |
| 16:45.39 | DARKGuy | pics can prove it :P |
| 16:45.40 | DARKGuy | XD |
| 16:45.46 | Cide | sec |
| 16:45.48 | hi11ie | especially if they're programmers (the girls) |
| 16:45.48 | Cide | let me find that xkcd topic |
| 16:45.50 | Cide | err comic |
| 16:45.56 | DARKGuy | hi11ie: ya |
| 16:46.02 | Cide | http://xkcd.com/322/ |
| 16:46.03 | |pez | Cide: Not for DARKGuy apparantly |
| 16:46.05 | Cide | please stop, it's annoying |
| 16:46.13 | Cide | and I'm not even a girl |
| 16:46.40 | DARKGuy | XD xkcd is the win |
| 16:46.48 | DARKGuy | and come on, you can't joke in here? =( |
| 16:46.49 | Cide | and you're the lose |
| 16:47.01 | DARKGuy | at least I know how to loz0r |
| 16:47.02 | Cide | see the comic for the answer |
| 16:47.12 | DARKGuy | fun :P |
| 16:47.30 | Cide | it's getting a bit old if you ask me :/ |
| 16:47.32 | |pez | <i know a guy who pretended to be a girl ingame. |
| 16:47.35 | Lopeppeppy | The gentlemen of the channel tend to be protective of us few females. They like us. They want us to stick around. And they'll curb stomp anyone who looks likely to offend. |
| 16:47.39 | |pez | and he got lots of freebies. :P |
| 16:47.50 | Saint-N | we just want boobie shots |
| 16:47.58 | Saint-N | if we're mean to you we wont EVER get those |
| 16:47.59 | DARKGuy | lmao |
| 16:48.06 | hi11ie | so no one knows if SendWho() runs asynchronously? |
| 16:48.06 | Keias | I thought about pretending to be a girl to get free stuff |
| 16:48.09 | Saint-N | as opposed to the "slim chance" we get if we're nice |
| 16:48.09 | Cide | don't speak for everyone |
| 16:48.11 | Keias | Then I always give myself away on vent :( |
| 16:48.25 | DARKGuy | I know a lot of guys who pretend to be girls ingame to get some items, it's shameful |
| 16:48.26 | Saint-N | dont listen to cide |
| 16:48.32 | Lopeppeppy | You know Cide, maybe you and I can go make a reasonable people channel where I'll feel at home and welcome. What do you think? |
| 16:48.36 | Saint-N | he's crazy and likes balloon animals |
| 16:48.47 | Cide | Lopeppeppy: not a bad idea! |
| 16:48.56 | Cide | Saint-N: no... |
| 16:48.58 | Saint-N | cide and peppy sitting in a tree K-I-S-S-I-N-G |
| 16:49.03 | Keias | What do you have against Balloon animals, Saint-N ? |
| 16:49.08 | hi11ie | DARKGuy: i've had female toons before. I didn't pretend to do shit, guys are just retarded |
| 16:49.09 | Saint-N | nothing |
| 16:49.14 | Saint-N | balloon aminals rule |
| 16:49.18 | DARKGuy | Saint-N: there are no trees on irc. Maybe idling on a channel? x |
| 16:49.19 | DARKGuy | xD |
| 16:49.22 | Saint-N | specially balloon snakes |
| 16:49.35 | Saint-N | DARKGuy: it doesnt fit the rhyme |
| 16:49.35 | DARKGuy | hi11ie: eh, depends on the IQ I guess |
| 16:49.36 | Cide | I have a beatiful and amazing girlfriend, but I appreciate it Saint-N |
| 16:49.40 | DARKGuy | Saint-N: true :( |
| 16:49.42 | Lopeppeppy | And that's why you're not invited, Saint-N. |
| 16:50.12 | hi11ie | just don't ever "/lick" some dude while running past them, you'll have a stalker 4 LiFe |
| 16:50.19 | Keias | o_O |
| 16:50.19 | Saint-N | well that and im not really into threesomes with cide ;P |
| 16:50.24 | Keias | I'll keep that in mind. |
| 16:50.27 | DARKGuy | lol |
| 16:50.57 | Lopeppeppy | Only those with brains need apply. Assuming a reasonable group is about threesomes automatically disqualifies you from participating. |
| 16:51.14 | Saint-N | remind me why i'd care? |
| 16:51.15 | |pez | I have a brain! |
| 16:51.21 | Saint-N | and ncie boobs pez |
| 16:51.21 | Keias | Brians are overrated. I like to rely on instinct. |
| 16:51.25 | Saint-N | that automagically includes you |
| 16:51.28 | cog|work | ~lart3mis |
| 16:51.28 | purl | ACTION smacks art3mis upside the head just cuz |
| 16:51.29 | |pez | it is the size of a peanut! |
| 16:51.37 | Saint-N | yeah brians are over rated |
| 16:51.43 | Cide | honestly, Saint-N |
| 16:51.50 | Cide | I'm not speaking for everyone but please drop it? |
| 16:52.01 | Saint-N | im bored and you're all being to ultra serious for irc |
| 16:52.06 | cog|work | Cide: everyone who counts anyway |
| 16:52.08 | DARKGuy | seriously |
| 16:52.08 | cog|work | :P |
| 16:52.09 | Saint-N | understand the joke and stop being emo |
| 16:52.14 | DARKGuy | emo |
| 16:52.15 | DARKGuy | lol |
| 16:52.21 | Cide | Saint-N: I understand what you may think is funny, but it's not funny |
| 16:52.26 | DARKGuy | it's not emo, geeze I hate when people take it too seriously |
| 16:52.26 | Lopeppeppy | For the love of cats. Discrimatory statements are discriminatory, even if you guys somehow think it's "cute" to be demeaning and rude. That's serious, when you annoy someone enough that they want to leave the channel to avoid listening to your drivel. |
| 16:52.28 | Saint-N | no it is |
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| 16:52.36 | Cide | it's overplayed, annoying and rude towards the women |
| 16:52.41 | Cide | looks like I was right |
| 16:52.44 | Saint-N | aww |
| 16:52.52 | Saint-N | you gonna part now too cide? |
| 16:53.08 | Saint-N | scamper off and curl up in the fetal postiion and rock yourself to sleep? |
| 16:53.15 | Saint-N | good god |
| 16:53.23 | Cide | no, I'm not affected by your stupidity |
| 16:53.31 | DARKGuy | xD |
| 16:53.32 | Saint-N | yet you feed the troll |
| 16:53.35 | Saint-N | tsk tsk |
| 16:53.38 | Saint-N | ;) |
| 16:53.45 | cog|work | Saint-N: The way you're acting is the exact reason there are no girls on the tubes... |
| 16:53.46 | Cide | no, I'm telling you to shut up |
| 16:53.56 | Legorol | I'm going to go fetch an op |
| 16:54.04 | Saint-N | okay |
| 16:54.12 | Saint-N | yescog im totally the reason |
| 16:54.18 | Cide | and you're trying really hard to cover it up with it being a joke, and even if you think it is, it really isn't funny |
| 16:54.24 | DARKGuy | Dude |
| 16:54.32 | DARKGuy | seriously, WTF is wrong with you :/ |
| 16:54.34 | Cide | dude |
| 16:54.42 | Cide | who the fuck are you? |
| 16:54.48 | Legorol | Beladona, Cairenn|afk, cladhaire, Dolby, Seerah|away: ping |
| 16:54.48 | Saint-N | and you're trying a touch to ahrd to seem like a "nice" guy on the internet and that you've never behaved badly or sad bad things to people |
| 16:54.50 | DARKGuy | does it matter ? |
| 16:54.56 | Saint-N | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:55.01 | Legorol | lua_bot too, for good measure |
| 16:55.01 | Saint-N | you should know better by now |
| 16:55.02 | Cide | DARKGuy: have you been in this channel before today? |
| 16:55.03 | cog|work | Saint-N: you've already driven away one person |
| 16:55.18 | Cide | Saint-N: I've done the same thing. when I was 15, and then I grew up |
| 16:55.22 | DARKGuy | Cide: again, does it matter? you're gonna try to get me off here because I've never been here? |
| 16:55.25 | DARKGuy | geeze. |
| 16:55.30 | Saint-N | wow such a high caibre of insult im impressed |
| 16:55.41 | Saint-N | caliber? |
| 16:55.43 | Cide | DARKGuy: no, but don't act like you know anything about this channel |
| 16:55.44 | Saint-N | calibre |
| 16:55.44 | Cide | aye |
| 16:55.54 | Cide | I know what you mean in any case |
| 16:55.57 | DARKGuy | Cide: I'm not acting, you're assuming. |
| 16:55.58 | Cide | it wasn't meant as an insult though |
| 16:56.03 | Legorol | Fellows, precisely because you ahve never been here before, you don't really understand that this channel is not your typical channel. |
| 16:56.10 | Saint-N | lego |
| 16:56.13 | Saint-N | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:56.18 | Saint-N | i HAVE been here ;) |
| 16:56.19 | Cide | DARKGuy: who are you to judge what is wrong with me after one day of being in here? I've frequented this channel for years |
| 16:56.19 | Legorol | Saint-N: not talking bout you |
| 16:56.33 | cog|work | Saint-N: which goes to show you should know better |
| 16:56.35 | Saint-N | pez |
| 16:56.39 | dylanm | Whoa what happened in here. |
| 16:56.42 | DARKGuy | Cide: I have common sense. |
| 16:56.43 | DARKGuy | =) |
| 16:56.44 | Tem | ~lart3mis |
| 16:56.45 | purl | ACTION smacks art3mis upside the head just cuz |
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| 16:56.50 | Saint-N | cog|work: you know im a troll and i do so love to start shit ;) |
| 16:56.57 | Tem | you know better, Saint-N |
| 16:57.02 | Saint-N | im surprised it took as long as it did with the constant feeding |
| 16:57.04 | cog|work | Saint-N: yes... and trolls get kicked |
| 16:57.06 | Tem | this is not a channel for you to troll in |
| 16:57.08 | Cide | DARKGuy: no you don't; you're rude and deregatory towards women and trying to be funny |
| 16:57.16 | cog|work | (when there's ops around anyway :P ) |
| 16:57.17 | Saint-N | it is when its lunch and bored and its such a great topic |
| 16:57.26 | DARKGuy | Cide: I wasn't even meaning it, see, you're taking it too seriously. |
| 16:57.28 | Tem | no |
| 16:57.30 | Tem | it is not |
| 16:57.34 | Saint-N | and i never make personal attacks there are troll rules |
| 16:57.36 | Cide | DARKGuy: I know you didn't mean it, but I'm NOT taking it too seriously |
| 16:57.37 | Legorol | DARKGuy: you join a channel that you haven't been in before, and you start an argument with people who have been here for several years about whether your behaviour is appropriate in here or not. |
| 16:57.40 | Legorol | Isn't that just dumb? |
| 16:57.44 | |pez | -___-' |
| 16:57.52 | |pez | I'll... be back later |
| 16:57.54 | Josh_Borke | can someone pass the popcorn? |
| 16:57.54 | *** part/#wowuidev |pez (n=eatyours@111.80-203-130.nextgentel.com) |
| 16:57.56 | Cide | the point is, even if you don't mean it, it affects people |
| 16:58.01 | DARKGuy | Legorol: they started it with the "nice guy" attitude, I was just joking. |
| 16:58.04 | Cide | two women gone. nice job with the joke, guys |
| 16:58.18 | DARKGuy | Like if you can't find girls irl. |
| 16:58.20 | DARKGuy | lol. |
| 16:58.22 | Keias | Josh_Borke, you're saying that like it's entertaining :P Its just plain silly. |
| 16:58.30 | Cide | what "nice guy" attitude? honestly, I'm not sitting here trying to be friends with all the women in the channel just so I can get some e-sex. you're fucking childish |
| 16:58.38 | Josh_Borke | Keias: i just got back from lunch, so it's starting out entertaining |
| 16:58.41 | Legorol | DARKGuy: your utter failure to see *why* it was inappropriate even as a joke in the first place is the whole problem. |
| 16:58.42 | Keias | lol |
| 16:58.44 | *** join/#wowuidev |pez (n=eatyours@111.80-203-130.nextgentel.com) |
| 16:58.49 | |pez | I changed my mind, and came back. :P |
| 16:58.49 | Keias | I should get lunch soon, it's already 1pm here :( |
| 16:58.53 | DARKGuy | Cide: who's childish? I'm not taking it seriously, you're making a big fuss out of it. |
| 16:58.55 | Josh_Borke | |pez: wb |
| 16:58.55 | Keias | wb pez |
| 16:58.55 | Cide | |pez: lol |
| 16:59.04 | Legorol | Maybe you'd understand it better if I said that racism is not funny, even as a joke? |
| 16:59.08 | dylanm | Lee Majors did it? |
| 16:59.15 | Cide | DARKGuy: and given that two women left as a result, do you think I'm overreacting? |
| 16:59.22 | Cide | what Legorol said |
| 16:59.24 | DARKGuy | Cide: their problem |
| 16:59.35 | Cide | DARKGuy: it might be an indicator that the joke wasn't funny at all |
| 16:59.37 | zenzelezz | Legorol: I suspect DARKGuy follows the Homer mantra, "it's funny because I don't know them" |
| 16:59.47 | Cide | DARKGuy: honestly, gtfo |
| 16:59.47 | Legorol | lol zenzelezz |
| 16:59.56 | Cide | I mean it. get the fuck out please |
| 17:00.21 | |pez | In my "women on the internet" opinion, I don't mind people being all like "pics or it didn't happen". BUT, the people doing it has to be people I've talked to for a reasonable amount of time. |
| 17:01.00 | Cide | Kaso: enjoy |
| 17:01.14 | |pez | but that's me, and I've been on the internet since the age of 14, and has learned to deal. :P |
| 17:01.19 | Saint-N | wow |
| 17:01.22 | zenzelezz | if they want you to know what they look like then you won't have to ask in the first place |
| 17:01.22 | Saint-N | so 4 years? |
| 17:01.23 | |pez | not all are like that, and people should respect it. |
| 17:01.24 | DARKGuy | See. |
| 17:01.25 | Saint-N | ;) |
| 17:01.36 | Cide | I thought |pez was 21 or so |
| 17:01.38 | Keias | after a few weeks, I'm sure she's heard it all |
| 17:01.48 | Saint-N | i just picked 4 cuz that would make her legal ;) |
| 17:01.53 | |pez | Cide: Turned 22 3 weeks ago actually. :P |
| 17:01.56 | Saint-N | originally iw as gonna say 2 |
| 17:02.01 | Josh_Borke | |pez: happy belated birthday then |
| 17:02.04 | Keias | happly belated birthday then |
| 17:02.09 | Keias | Josh_Borke, get outta my head! |
| 17:02.09 | Cide | |pez: ah, not too far off then. congratulations |
| 17:02.12 | Josh_Borke | Saint-N: so she went back in time? |
| 17:02.12 | |pez | Yay, thanks ^^ |
| 17:02.15 | Josh_Borke | Keias: you're in mine! |
| 17:02.23 | Saint-N | Josh_Borke: of course, you mean you cant do it yet? |
| 17:02.39 | Josh_Borke | Saint-N: no, i wish i could, i'd go back to where i had a metabolism without trying |
| 17:02.47 | Keias | lol |
| 17:02.49 | Saint-N | heh yeah |
| 17:02.58 | Kaso | hi11ie, btw did you get an anwser to your SendWho question?> |
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| 17:03.03 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+v Malgayne] by ChanServ |
| 17:03.05 | |pez | I don't have a working metabolism, period. :D |
| 17:03.22 | Keias | eat a cracker and run a block |
| 17:03.24 | Beladona | I shouldn't have to say this |
| 17:03.25 | Keias | Woo |
| 17:03.35 | Beladona | but people need to be courteous at all times in this channel |
| 17:03.43 | Josh_Borke | Beladona: we're all children here, of course you need to say it |
| 17:03.48 | |pez | Ah, how do I kick out myself from a server? |
| 17:03.48 | Beladona | that includes not being rude, or sexist towards the few females that frequent it |
| 17:04.00 | Cide | |pez: /quit? :P |
| 17:04.01 | Beladona | I can, and WILL kick anyone that does it |
| 17:04.10 | |pez | Cide: like... not me, but a different me. |
| 17:04.16 | Beladona | if you have a problem with that, please feel free to pm me |
| 17:04.22 | Cide | /msg nickserv GHOST username password |
| 17:04.23 | Josh_Borke | |pez: like, on irc? |
| 17:04.26 | Beladona | otherwise, keep it out of this channel |
| 17:04.27 | DARKGuy | You gotta know the place you're going to get into. The "women on irc" thing has been a known fact for years and been used in many ways, if they get angry because of that, it's their problem. See, it's the same as if you're white and go to africa, don't expect people to treat you equally and not to make a single joke out of you. Same goes when you're black and go to USA. I hate racism, but you don't mind that, it seems :P. |
| 17:04.31 | |pez | Cide: thanks ^^ |
| 17:04.34 | Cide | if the clone is identified |
| 17:04.48 | *** kick/#wowuidev [DARKGuy!n=beladona@24.129.136.26] by Beladona (Beladona) |
| 17:04.49 | |pez | I... hope so. |
| 17:05.02 | *** join/#wowuidev DARKGuy (n=DARKGuy@201.211.45.36) |
| 17:05.06 | DARKGuy | Fine. |
| 17:05.08 | cncfanatics | I got to agree with DARKGuy here |
| 17:05.10 | Beladona | that was your first warning |
| 17:05.29 | Saint-N | watch out cnc |
| 17:05.31 | *** part/#wowuidev cncfanatics (n=evolve@230.61-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 17:05.32 | DARKGuy | It's ok, you should've kicked the others too. |
| 17:05.37 | Saint-N | peppy left so bela is sad ;P |
| 17:05.37 | *** join/#wowuidev cncfanatics (n=evolve@230.61-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 17:05.40 | |pez | Aaaha, that's great. -__-' |
| 17:05.41 | Saint-N | peppy left so bela is sad ;P |
| 17:05.46 | cncfanatics | fine, then I won't frequent this channel anymore |
| 17:05.50 | Beladona | I came in a bit late in the conversation. I am trying to be as fair as I can to everyone involved |
| 17:05.54 | |pez | when I kill my ghost, the irssi client it's on automaticly reconnects it. |
| 17:05.55 | cncfanatics | mods enforcing their oppinion with kicks are stupid |
| 17:05.59 | *** part/#wowuidev cncfanatics (n=evolve@230.61-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 17:05.59 | Beladona | but trust me, if it continues, I will be kicking |
| 17:06.00 | DARKGuy | Ah, you wanna see how did it started? ^^ |
| 17:06.03 | Saint-N | cnc: nah kicks are funny |
| 17:06.09 | Beladona | so please, consider the conversation done |
| 17:06.12 | Saint-N | bans are lame ;) |
| 17:06.13 | zenzelezz | he came back just to say that? |
| 17:06.15 | DARKGuy | I have to agree with cnc though. |
| 17:06.25 | Legorol | |pez: use /msg nickserv recover username password |
| 17:06.29 | DARKGuy | Fine with me, but enforcing it through kicks when you don't even know how did it start seems stupid to me. |
| 17:06.33 | Legorol | that will put a 1 min hold on the nick so he can't reconnect |
| 17:06.35 | DARKGuy | imho. |
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| 17:06.44 | Beladona | DARKGuy: I can scroll up / read |
| 17:06.51 | Beladona | and answer messages sent to me by other people |
| 17:07.08 | Saint-N | bela answer mine dammit! |
| 17:07.12 | zenzelezz | they're channel operators for a reason. If you don't agree with them, you're welcome to find a different channel |
| 17:07.15 | hi11ie | DARKGuy: actually a lot of africa isn't filled with a lot of dumbasses unlike this country |
| 17:07.23 | DARKGuy | hi11ie: d'oh |
| 17:07.25 | Saint-N | zenzelezz: they're channel ops because they're friends |
| 17:07.26 | Josh_Borke | hi11ie: :-( |
| 17:07.37 | Saint-N | it has nothing at all to do with being just and fair |
| 17:07.38 | Josh_Borke | Saint-N: it's more than that Saint-N |
| 17:07.43 | hi11ie | so there is probably a good chance a white person could go there and not have jokes made |
| 17:07.44 | Saint-N | never delude yourself with that belief ;) |
| 17:07.49 | zenzelezz | Saint-N: and that's no different from in real life. Why do people expect IRC to be different? |
| 17:07.50 | DARKGuy | zenzelezz: that doesn't make them gods. They're humans just like you and me, and can be right or wrong. |
| 17:07.52 | dylanm | Let's counter a generalization with another one! |
| 17:07.58 | Josh_Borke | *sigh* |
| 17:08.03 | Josh_Borke | i'll be back when this place is back to normal |
| 17:08.09 | Legorol | Just because racist comments are made routinely somewhere, doesn't make them right or legitimate. Fail of logic. |
| 17:08.10 | hi11ie | haha |
| 17:08.18 | dylanm | Let's talk about OnUpdates. |
| 17:08.29 | Saint-N | zenzelezz: im not saying it is, i am saying that to behave like they arent just the "popular kids" in a click is assinine |
| 17:08.40 | hi11ie | Legorol: true |
| 17:08.52 | hi11ie | it just makes them unintentional racist statements |
| 17:09.11 | dylanm | Beladona: How's the NECB stuff going? |
| 17:09.13 | zenzelezz | Saint-N: I made no statement about them being righteous or anything of the sort. The fact is, they're in charge, and you're not forced to stay in their channel if you don't like them |
| 17:09.19 | Legorol | Similarly, just because it's done routinely (even as a joke), doesn't mean someone has to accept/appreciate/tolerate it. |
| 17:09.38 | Saint-N | <zenzelezz> they're channel operators for a reason. |
| 17:09.40 | Beladona | this isn't coming from me as an op but: why don't we talk about wow programming topics more often? That is what we intended this channel to me originally |
| 17:09.44 | DARKGuy | Legorol: oh, so don't do it so the other people don't cry. Come on, it's time to grow up. |
| 17:09.44 | Saint-N | <Saint-N> zenzelezz: they're channel ops because they're friends |
| 17:09.46 | Legorol | I'm done with my highflying moral statements, back to Ikariam. |
| 17:09.49 | Saint-N | ^^ thats the reason ;P |
| 17:09.51 | Beladona | be* |
| 17:09.52 | DARKGuy | lmao |
| 17:10.00 | DARKGuy | I see kicked people and its not me :P |
| 17:10.06 | Beladona | it seems like 80% or more of the conversations in here are random |
| 17:10.13 | Saint-N | Beladona: becuase nothing new and fun is happening right now |
| 17:10.23 | zenzelezz | Saint-N: yes, and I never disagreed to that. You assume that "for a reason" meant that I found them to be the protectors of justice? |
| 17:10.25 | Beladona | there are plenty of addons to write |
| 17:10.27 | dylanm | Well, that's the community aspect. |
| 17:10.28 | hi11ie | i think a lot of ppl are at work and can't play wow |
| 17:10.34 | Saint-N | zenzelezz: they're paladins ;P |
| 17:10.38 | Beladona | hell, I need people for my team for NECB |
| 17:10.39 | Saint-N | and not even lolret ;) |
| 17:10.39 | Legorol | DARKGuy: yes that's pretty much it. You know, you *can* actually not do something due to how other people receive it. It's called being considerate. |
| 17:10.40 | hi11ie | i'd really hate to see this place on tuesday heh |
| 17:10.40 | DARKGuy | I'm at work without wow :P |
| 17:10.59 | Saint-N | its actually awesome on tuesday |
| 17:11.05 | Saint-N | everyone sleeps through maint |
| 17:11.06 | Saint-N | ;) |
| 17:11.11 | hi11ie | hehe |
| 17:11.17 | Beladona | to answer your question dylanm: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6616-NaturCombatTimers.html#comments |
| 17:11.18 | DARKGuy | Legorol: are there considerate people on the streets? no. Hell, if they are like that on IRC I can't imagine it irl. |
| 17:11.18 | zenzelezz | and Beladona, until recently this channel was called "lounge", that still lingers for a number of people |
| 17:11.25 | cog|work | DARKGuy: You're going to live a very unfulfilled life until you grow up. If you're happy with that then more power to you |
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| 17:11.59 | dylanm | I'm writing some chat stuff right now. It's pretty rad. |
| 17:12.00 | Cide | <DARKGuy> Legorol: oh, so don't do it so the other people don't cry. Come on, it's time to grow up. |
| 17:12.09 | DARKGuy | cog|work: I'm pretty good with my life as it is, thank you very much :). |
| 17:12.11 | Cide | DARKGuy: you're fucking dense. it's up to YOU to decide what is appropriate to other people? |
| 17:12.15 | Saint-N | zenzelezz: only cuz we cant get back in the right channel ;P |
| 17:12.20 | DARKGuy | Cide: no, neither you or anyone here. |
| 17:12.28 | hi11ie | DARKGuy: take a multicultural psychology class, it will open your eyes.. and pls don't be offended, coz i just took it this semester that's almost over, and it opened mine |
| 17:12.32 | dylanm | I really don't mind off-topic stuff in here but trolling is silly. |
| 17:12.41 | dylanm | Beladona: Are you finding LibBars unsuitable? |
| 17:12.46 | Cide | DARKGuy: it's up to the individual to decide if a joke/statement/what have you is accepted/rude/whatever |
| 17:12.48 | Saint-N | dylanm: trolling is fun at times, like the previous half hour ;P |
| 17:12.57 | Cide | DARKGuy: it's not up to you to tell other people to grow up because you feel it IS appropriate |
| 17:13.14 | Beladona | I will have to take another look, but every time I look at any of the bar libs, there is something missing I wish was there |
| 17:13.16 | DARKGuy | What is appropiate and it isn't appropiate is just a point of view and you can never say what is appropiate and what it isn't because some will find some stuff appropiate and some won't. |
| 17:13.17 | Saint-N | i find it incredibly funny that words can get people so aggritated for real |
| 17:13.19 | Legorol | DARKGuy: you are free to make any lame comment you want. You are not free to tell other people to not get offended by it. |
| 17:13.20 | cog|work | DARKGuy: there's a difference between saying something inflamatory and continuing to say inflamatory things after you've been told it's offensive and people want you to stop |
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| 17:13.41 | Beladona | LibCandyBar was the closest, but it was missing some flexibility in bar styling, and utility |
| 17:13.42 | cog|work | if you choose to continue, you're willfully making enemies and you deserve to be raped in the ass as far as i care |
| 17:13.45 | Cide | DARKGuy: and if people find it inappropriate, why don't you juts shut up? we told you it WAS inappropriate, then you should accept that fact and shut up and not tell them to grow up |
| 17:13.54 | dylanm | Beladona: Are you keeping the code on GCode or GitHub? |
| 17:13.55 | Cide | just* |
| 17:14.11 | Saint-N | Beladona: trinitybars! |
| 17:14.18 | Saint-N | maul says they're grrrrrrrrrrreat |
| 17:14.31 | DARKGuy | Well fine I'll just drop it, you guys just don't understand. |
| 17:14.37 | Cide | ... |
| 17:14.53 | Cide | I think you're the one not understanding |
| 17:14.55 | dylanm | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qI0dCVwdedE |
| 17:15.12 | Beladona | DARKGuy: the point everyone is trying to make is that while everyone has different standards for what is acceptable, it is up to channel ops, and channel policies to come up with a somewhat common rule of thumb for what you can and cannot do. As long as you follow that, and don't do things we ask you not to do, then we have no problems |
| 17:15.14 | |pez| | DARKGuy: You're the one not understanding I think. |
| 17:15.44 | DARKGuy | Beladona: see, that was a better answer :) |
| 17:15.52 | cog|work | YOU FUCKING IDIOT |
| 17:15.57 | cog|work | THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN TELLING YOU THIS WHOLE TIME |
| 17:16.01 | cog|work | /ignore DARKGuy |
| 17:16.03 | Beladona | pretend this is a nice restaurant. You can probably do a lot, but there ARE things you can be kicked out for |
| 17:16.32 | DARKGuy | Okay so I got offended by cog|work 's comment about raping me, I'm so gonna cry now and /leave |
| 17:16.37 | DARKGuy | so he offended me a lot |
| 17:16.41 | Cide | good. don't come back |
| 17:16.42 | DARKGuy | I'm so touched, kick him? |
| 17:16.45 | DARKGuy | :P |
| 17:16.53 | Cide | his comment was inappropriate |
| 17:17.04 | Cide | but he won't continue now that you told him it was inappropriate |
| 17:17.13 | Cide | that, my friend (not), is the difference between you two. |
| 17:17.29 | Zyuu | I had this awesome icecream today |
| 17:17.29 | DARKGuy | I didn't continue, I stated it was a joke, but you all made a big fuss out of it |
| 17:17.29 | zenzelezz | I cannot teach him. The boy has no patience. |
| 17:17.30 | DARKGuy | :P |
| 17:17.32 | Beladona | guys, please drop it |
| 17:17.39 | dylanm | Zyuu: Do elaborate. |
| 17:17.42 | Beladona | agree to disagree |
| 17:17.52 | cog|work | Zyuu: Ben & Jerry's Creme Brulee? |
| 17:17.54 | Cide | Beladona: alright |
| 17:17.54 | Stanzilla | Beladona: maybe this new lib from Antiarc can help: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/LibBars-1.0/ |
| 17:18.03 | Zyuu | http://www.junkfoodnews.net/HAAGEN-DAZS-CANDY-CANE-DAZZ-350w.jpg |
| 17:18.04 | cncfanatics | Ben & Jerry's fails hard :p |
| 17:18.08 | Beladona | I tried that Stanzilla |
| 17:18.09 | Saint-N | i think i missed the wash and rinse part before the repeat |
| 17:18.14 | |pez| | Oh, I started a blog. |
| 17:18.16 | dylanm | Stanzilla: We were just discussing its shortcomings :-/ |
| 17:18.19 | Cide | does anyone know if xchat can do persistent ignores? |
| 17:18.27 | Stanzilla | kk |
| 17:18.28 | Saint-N | welcome to 5 years ago pez ;) |
| 17:18.35 | Beladona | I can make it work if needed |
| 17:18.38 | |pez| | Saint-N: pff, jeje. |
| 17:18.38 | Saint-N | heh |
| 17:18.41 | Beladona | I will just have to write some wrapper |
| 17:18.47 | Zyuu | Internet is serious business |
| 17:18.48 | Lunessa | When 8 million lines of code you reach, be as elegant you will not! |
| 17:18.53 | cncfanatics | doesn't chanserv allow you to ignore people ? |
| 17:18.53 | Beladona | which I guess I will have to do no matter what I use |
| 17:18.59 | |pez| | I still did! And I got like 1.5k visitors (unique ones at that) one day :D |
| 17:19.02 | Cide | cncfanatics: don't think so? |
| 17:19.05 | cncfanatics | let me check |
| 17:19.07 | Antiarc | LibBars is very much in development |
| 17:19.09 | kergoth | i like the libbars api for the most part, but it doesnt really have a clean way to change bar options on the fly, and is missing a number of features.. course its beta, what does one expect |
| 17:19.10 | dylanm | |pez|: You'll have to link this. |
| 17:19.15 | kergoth | :) |
| 17:19.19 | Antiarc | If there's stuff you need it to do, it's very flexibile right now |
| 17:19.20 | |pez| | dylanm: it's in Norwegian XD |
| 17:19.24 | Saint-N | lunessa: yeah but in perl thats only like 300 lines of code and python it's 4 ;P |
| 17:19.26 | Beladona | my biggest need right now |
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| 17:19.30 | kergoth | Antiarc: you okay with that update rate change i made? |
| 17:19.37 | zenzelezz | |pez|: :-o |
| 17:19.38 | Beladona | is a way to limit the number of abrs displayed in a group |
| 17:19.47 | Antiarc | kergoth: I haven't had my head in the addon scene the past few days, which change was that? |
| 17:19.49 | Lunessa | Saint-N: Right... import {soul}; |
| 17:19.50 | Antiarc | Beladona: Oh, that's trivial enough |
| 17:19.55 | Saint-N | heh |
| 17:19.56 | Beladona | I want all the timers to run, but only like 10 bars to show up |
| 17:19.59 | Beladona | or x number of bars |
| 17:20.15 | cncfanatics | Cide: I was wrong |
| 17:20.19 | Cide | I noticed :) |
| 17:20.23 | |pez| | It's not superduper interesting, but I write about newsarticles, and get viewers from the online newspapers I linked to. |
| 17:20.24 | Beladona | the other stuff I need I pretty much have already done |
| 17:20.25 | cncfanatics | Antiarc: are you still writing the dewdrop replacement ? |
| 17:20.26 | |pez| | It's great. |
| 17:20.35 | Beladona | and while I could probably code the buffer for it myself |
| 17:20.42 | Beladona | I was hoping to find a bar lib that had it built in |
| 17:20.48 | Antiarc | cncfanatics: I have the code in branches, but I haven't had time to work on it lately |
| 17:20.57 | cncfanatics | I need one atm |
| 17:20.59 | kergoth | Antiarc: i changed the update delay from the fixed 0.025 to maxVal / bar:GetWidth() |
| 17:21.00 | dylanm | |pez|: Hm. All I know about Norway is that John Arne Riise is from there. |
| 17:21.06 | cncfanatics | I can either write a new one or pick up your code |
| 17:21.07 | Beladona | but yeah, so far LibBars is nice |
| 17:21.11 | Antiarc | kergoth: Oh, that sounds sane. |
| 17:21.15 | cncfanatics | which one do you prefer Antiarc ? |
| 17:21.15 | Beladona | its basically a cleaner LibCandyBar |
| 17:21.19 | zenzelezz | |pez|: link? |
| 17:21.20 | Antiarc | cncfanatics: Feel free to pick it up |
| 17:21.22 | |pez| | dylanm: feh, football. :\ |
| 17:21.27 | cncfanatics | can you link me ? |
| 17:21.29 | |pez| | zenzelezz: http://slacktitude.net |
| 17:21.36 | dylanm | Beladona: Perhaps you guys could work together...? I mean if he's open to your suggestions. |
| 17:21.42 | zenzelezz | fancy URL :-p |
| 17:21.46 | Antiarc | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/LibDropdown-1.0/ |
| 17:21.50 | |pez| | zenzelezz: ;P |
| 17:21.59 | |pez| | Oh, I also bought webmistress.no like a week or so ago. |
| 17:22.03 | Antiarc | I'm very open to suggestions, but very short on time right now :) |
| 17:22.04 | |pez| | that one doesn't do anything yet. |
| 17:22.07 | Beladona | the problem is, I have a lot of coding to do, and only a little time to do it, for NECB |
| 17:22.13 | zenzelezz | my "Got Slack?" T-shirt finally died a few weeks ago :-/ |
| 17:22.14 | cncfanatics | Antiarc: what is there to finish ? |
| 17:22.18 | Saint-N | cant wait for that one ;P |
| 17:22.21 | Beladona | I could invest some time on that, but it means pushing NECB off even further |
| 17:22.22 | Josh_Borke | Antiarc: don't do it! |
| 17:22.31 | Beladona | and I don't have help |
| 17:22.34 | Beladona | which I need |
| 17:22.42 | |pez| | Saint-N: Will you be dissapointed if I say it's the name I'll make webdesigns under? :P |
| 17:22.49 | Antiarc | cncfanatics: Mostly things like what to do when a menu runs off the screen, and some issues with range sliders |
| 17:22.56 | dylanm | Beladona: So you want... bar limits? Is that all in the way of major blocking features in the lib? |
| 17:23.07 | Saint-N | not really |
| 17:23.18 | dylanm | I'm also not sure if that's a job for the library. Could be wrong on this. |
| 17:23.30 | cncfanatics | Antiarc: ok, thanks :) |
| 17:23.40 | cncfanatics | I had started writing my own one, but its going to hit the bin |
| 17:23.47 | zenzelezz | |pez|: it does sound a bit... interesting... for a site called "webmistress" to speak of the intention to "provide services" |
| 17:23.48 | Saint-N | |pez|: but you have to keep the content:porn ratio of the internet proper so..... |
| 17:24.15 | Lunessa | Back in the day when I was doing technical editing/writing I pitched the idea of "Slacking for Dummies" to the IDG folks. They didn't buy it. |
| 17:24.17 | Beladona | it doesn't have to be |
| 17:24.20 | |pez| | zenzelezz: my slogan is something along the lines of "Satisfying your online needs" ;P |
| 17:24.24 | Beladona | but it seems like a feature that belongs in the lib |
| 17:24.33 | Beladona | since the lib already hanndles the display of th bars anyway |
| 17:24.34 | Antiarc | since the lib does grouping, it belongs in the lib's group handling |
| 17:24.37 | Beladona | in groups |
| 17:24.39 | Cide | |pez|: nice :P |
| 17:24.52 | Josh_Borke | Antiarc: you implemented range sliders in dropdowns |
| 17:24.59 | Josh_Borke | Antiarc: break your thumbs for me, please |
| 17:25.00 | Antiarc | Rawr. |
| 17:25.08 | cncfanatics | I'm gonna love those sliders |
| 17:25.12 | cncfanatics | and all the other stuff :p |
| 17:25.13 | zenzelezz | sometimes I wonder if I use Slackware particularly because the name suits me |
| 17:25.21 | Beladona | I will try to drycode something shortly, if you are open to it Antiarc |
| 17:25.22 | Antiarc | Josh_Borke: You have better suggestions as to how to handle ranges? :P |
| 17:25.29 | Antiarc | Beladona: Certainly |
| 17:25.30 | Josh_Borke | Antiarc: yea, use a real gui :-P |
| 17:25.44 | cncfanatics | Josh_Borke: for some needs dropdowns are perfect |
| 17:26.08 | zenzelezz | I didn't say I don't like them :-o |
| 17:26.15 | Saint-N | webmistress.no |
| 17:26.19 | Saint-N | NO! |
| 17:26.23 | Saint-N | heh |
| 17:26.25 | mikma | i got a addon request if someone is bored enough to code this: if a same person pings the minimap 10 times in a row, message him something almost rude |
| 17:26.29 | Josh_Borke | cncfanatics: yes, but dropdown sliders? |
| 17:26.34 | |pez| | no is the norwegian thing, silly. :P |
| 17:26.44 | cncfanatics | mikma: I'm unsure if you can detect the source of a ping |
| 17:26.45 | Antiarc | I -like- dropdown sliders, personally |
| 17:26.48 | Saint-N | mikma: you could see if you can just disable seeing pings from him |
| 17:26.49 | |pez| | People will not see it as no. :P |
| 17:26.49 | Antiarc | Except in the case of scale sliders |
| 17:26.50 | Antiarc | Those suck :P |
| 17:27.04 | cncfanatics | scale should be an editbox imho |
| 17:27.06 | Lunessa | mikma: You sure you don't want it to just nuke him from orbit? |
| 17:27.09 | Josh_Borke | Antiarc: and some people like to eat fermented soy beans |
| 17:27.12 | Saint-N | not our fault you're norwegien home of fetish |
| 17:27.18 | Josh_Borke | you people make me cry |
| 17:27.27 | Saint-N | sliders are good |
| 17:27.31 | Saint-N | if anti makes them |
| 17:27.34 | cncfanatics | Josh_Borke: some people like to cry at the people who like to eat fermented soy beans :( |
| 17:27.45 | |pez| | Saint-N: :P |
| 17:27.50 | mikma | cncfanatics: MINIMAP_PING arg1 is the name of the pinger |
| 17:28.01 | mikma | Lunessa: if you can code that, please. |
| 17:28.23 | Lunessa | It's easy in Python import {nuke from orbit}; |
| 17:28.40 | zenzelezz | it's the only way to be sure |
| 17:29.22 | Beladona | you can detect the source of a ping |
| 17:29.26 | Beladona | there are addons that do it already |
| 17:29.43 | |pez| | I sort of want to stop by manillusion and do some drooling on clothes I want, but can't afford. |
| 17:29.48 | Lunessa | A great number... like WhoPing, SimpleMiniMap, Chinchilla, etc. |
| 17:29.54 | Josh_Borke | mikma: local f = CreateFrame("Frame"); local count, lastPinger = 0; f:SetScript("OnEvent", function(self, event, pinger, ...) if (pinger == lastPinger) then count = count + 1 else count = 0 end if count > 10 then ChatFrame1:AddMessage("GAH") end end) f:RegisterEvent("MINIMAP_PING") |
| 17:29.55 | Beladona | I am not positive, but I am pretty sure it works even if they don't have the same addon |
| 17:30.13 | mikma | Josh_Borke: thanks dude :) |
| 17:30.52 | cnc|away | Josh_Borke: that'll end up saying GAH to my raid leader |
| 17:30.56 | Josh_Borke | mikma: not guaranteed to be correct |
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| 17:30.57 | cnc|away | as he's the only one EVER that pings |
| 17:31.12 | Josh_Borke | cnc|away: only if he runs that snippet |
| 17:31.21 | Josh_Borke | mikma is smart enough to be able to add if statements to exclude people |
| 17:31.38 | cnc|away | true :) |
| 17:32.13 | Josh_Borke | mikma: local f = CreateFrame("Frame"); local count, ignoreMe, lastPinger = 0, { ["mikma"] = true }; f:SetScript("OnEvent", function(self, event, pinger, ...) if ignoreMe[pinger] then return end if (pinger == lastPinger) then count = count + 1 else count = 0 end if count > 10 then ChatFrame1:AddMessage("GAH") end end) f:RegisterEvent("MINIMAP_PING") |
| 17:32.35 | Beladona | that doesn't send a tell though |
| 17:32.53 | Josh_Borke | Beladona: nope, i'm too lazy to look up the api :-D |
| 17:33.02 | Beladona | me wants a "stop pinging you newb" although maybe it needs a prmpt to ask if you want to warn them |
| 17:33.09 | Beladona | hehe |
| 17:33.18 | mikma | Beladona: sweeter idea |
| 17:33.19 | Josh_Borke | anything more than what i wrote would take effort |
| 17:33.39 | Beladona | yeah |
| 17:33.45 | Beladona | which is why I haven't gotten the api for you yet |
| 17:33.53 | Beladona | <-- being lazy about it |
| 17:35.51 | Josh_Borke | lol |
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| 17:43.01 | Saint-N | Not only that, but the singer and songwriter who pioneered the industrial thrash sound also insists that he’s wrapping up the final recordings from the most notable of his many side projects — the Revolting Cocks, Lard and Pailhead — and he’s confining himself to a future of merely producing other artists at his studio near El Paso, Texas. |
| 17:43.40 | Saint-N | “It’s the end of all of it,” Jourgensen insists. “I just think it’s perfect timing with the Bush administration hopefully going away. I’m turning 50 in October, Bush is leaving and it just seemed that synchronicity was at work where you have a half-century milestone, you’ve been through a couple of Bushes and a Reagan and Clinton’s [scandals] and everything and you just finally figure, ‘That’s about it!’ |
| 17:44.42 | Saint-N | I always wanted to be a teacher or professor, and in a sense, itÂ’s almost like School of Rock, because the kids I get on my label or the kids that IÂ’m giving Revolting Cocks to or the kids that come and record at my studio also get an education of what not to do in a career and who not to listen to. |
| 17:44.48 | Saint-N | that last one is an awesome quote |
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| 17:47.39 | *** kick/#WoWUIDev [DARKGuy`AFK!n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn] by Cairenn|afk (Cairenn|afk) |
| 17:48.04 | Cide | you banned him by nick btw |
| 17:48.18 | *** join/#wowuidev DARKGuy (n=DARKGuy@201.211.45.36) |
| 17:48.25 | DARKGuy | Can I get an explanation at least? |
| 17:48.27 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+b %Saint-N!*@*] by Cairenn|afk |
| 17:48.47 | DARKGuy | You know that was rude. |
| 17:49.29 | Josh_Borke | ~emulate Josh_Borke |
| 17:49.30 | purl | ACTION hugs Cairenn |
| 17:51.24 | Cairenn|afk | you had your reason explained to you plenty, earlier |
| 17:51.29 | Cairenn|afk | I just scrolled up and read it all |
| 17:51.50 | DARKGuy | There was no reason to ban me though, Beladona kicked me earlier and had no reason to kick me afterwards - which was a good sign. |
| 17:52.03 | Cairenn|afk | and to say I'm not amused, as one of the females in channel, is to put it mildly |
| 17:52.31 | DARKGuy | I wasn't intending to amuse you :P |
| 17:52.37 | Cairenn|afk | precisely |
| 17:53.16 | Cairenn|afk | if you had actually been amusing, instead of just a jerk .... |
| 17:53.28 | DARKGuy | I wasn't being a jerk, people just take it too seriously. |
| 17:53.36 | DARKGuy | If I were a jerk I wouldn't even be here |
| 17:53.37 | DARKGuy | ^^ |
| 17:53.46 | cog|work | that can be aranged |
| 17:53.59 | DARKGuy | The conversation is A and B, not C |
| 17:54.00 | DARKGuy | :) |
| 17:54.04 | Beladona | I have to concede this one to Cairenn|afk DARKGuy. She is a female, and knows better than I how offensive the remarks were. Please don't make an issue of it |
| 17:54.31 | DARKGuy | Beladona: I'm not, you were the only one who gave a valid reason and good explanation than anyone else here |
| 17:54.33 | DARKGuy | :) |
| 17:54.51 | cog|work | No, you were just to retarded to understand everyone else's |
| 17:55.05 | Cide | oh, he's talking |
| 17:55.14 | DARKGuy | Now I'm retarded. Who's the jerk here? I'm not offending you :P |
| 17:55.15 | Cide | I thought cog|work was talking to Beladona |
| 17:55.25 | Cide | about being retarded.. I was like o_O |
| 17:55.31 | Beladona | lol |
| 17:55.34 | cog|work | Cide: yeah... i saw Cairenn|afk talking to him figured i'd take him off ignore |
| 17:55.48 | cog|work | up to the same old shit though |
| 17:55.51 | Cide | ah |
| 17:56.04 | Cide | well, I realized I'm not the person who ignores people. I like replying to the crap more |
| 17:56.04 | DARKGuy | Ignore me, I don't give a rat's bum. |
| 17:56.12 | Cide | it's ok, you're off ignore |
| 17:56.22 | DARKGuy | Whee ^^. |
| 17:56.59 | Lunessa | Cide: +10 Hon for snark. You're my Land of the Midnight Sun Hero. |
| 17:57.51 | cog|work | DARKGuy: multiple people ask you to stop and yet you continue... nooooooo that's not being an asshole at all... |
| 17:58.03 | cog|work | oh sry... "jerk" |
| 17:58.04 | DARKGuy | cog|work: yet you keep throwing wood to the fire. |
| 17:58.09 | Beladona | aren't we beating a dead horse here? |
| 17:58.16 | Beladona | it isn't doing anyone any good to continue the discussion |
| 17:58.16 | DARKGuy | :( |
| 17:58.37 | cog|work | sry Beladona... i had him on ignore too long and had some backlog :P |
| 17:59.04 | Cide | unfortunately |
| 17:59.29 | DARKGuy | but you can beat it... <.<... >.>.... |
| 17:59.42 | cog|work | krka: LUA |
| 17:59.42 | krka | cog|work: Lua is not an acronym. It is a Portuguese word that means moon. |
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| 18:01.18 | Lunessa | cog|work: Any good reds this season? |
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| 18:01.41 | cog|work | Lunessa: we don't make bad reds :P |
| 18:01.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Yay for being bored! |
| 18:01.49 | cog|work | (or if we do, they don't leave the barrel) |
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| 18:02.16 | Lunessa | Spoken like a true sari-man. I mean... any /especially/ good reds? :P |
| 18:02.29 | Lunessa | I have me a powerful thirst. |
| 18:02.40 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [-b DARKGuy!*@*] by Cairenn |
| 18:02.49 | cog|work | Well, tbh, we don't have ANY reds available right now 'cause they all sold out back in January :P |
| 18:03.06 | DARKGuy | Cairenn: thanks ^_^. |
| 18:03.13 | Cairenn | yeah, well, we'll see |
| 18:03.17 | Cairenn | don't push it |
| 18:03.24 | DARKGuy | Fine with me :P |
| 18:03.35 | cog|work | Why wasn't it fine with you earlier? |
| 18:03.38 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [-b %Saint-N!*@*] by Cairenn |
| 18:03.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow, noon and we already had a ban? |
| 18:04.08 | Beladona | want to make it 2? |
| 18:04.13 | ScytheBlade1 | o_o |
| 18:04.15 | Beladona | jk 0.o |
| 18:04.16 | DARKGuy | lol |
| 18:05.15 | cog|work | Lunessa: but none of our wines score less than 93 so by definition they're all especially good :P |
| 18:05.24 | DARKGuy | cog|work: because there are different ways to say the same thing :) |
| 18:05.30 | Lunessa | Hah... Ok, ok, Uncle. |
| 18:06.27 | cog|work | DARKGuy: and apparently you were only bright enough to see two of them... |
| 18:06.33 | Saint-N | hey i was banned? |
| 18:06.37 | DARKGuy | lol |
| 18:06.41 | Saint-N | voice banned? |
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| 18:07.03 | Gilial_ | Are there any get or set accessor methods for tables in lua? the __newindex event doesn't always seem to fire.. |
| 18:07.59 | Cairenn | Saint-N: you were muted, yes |
| 18:08.11 | ckknight | Gilial_: it doesn't fire after you've set it once |
| 18:08.18 | ckknight | there's newindex, but no changeindex, basically |
| 18:08.26 | Saint-N | wonder when that happened |
| 18:08.34 | DARKGuy | when I got banned =p |
| 18:08.38 | dylanm | Gilial_: You'll have to have a backing table if you want it to work the way you like. |
| 18:08.46 | Drundia | if you want __newindex to fire on changes you must simulate entire table |
| 18:09.01 | Josh_Borke | Cairenn: banning mutes someone? |
| 18:09.11 | zenzelezz | yes |
| 18:09.12 | Saint-N | the % mutes |
| 18:09.12 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:09.13 | Josh_Borke | Drundia: the term would be proxy :-D |
| 18:09.21 | Josh_Borke | ah, i see |
| 18:09.31 | zenzelezz | a ban prevents the user from doing any action on a channel, including entering it, but it doesn't kick them |
| 18:09.40 | zenzelezz | that's why most IRC clients do a kick-ban combination |
| 18:09.42 | dylanm | Gilial_: It helps to read the pseudocode in http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#2.8 |
| 18:09.51 | Josh_Borke | huh, has it always been that way? |
| 18:09.53 | dylanm | That will tell you how all of the magic methods behave. |
| 18:10.11 | zenzelezz | yes |
| 18:10.12 | Josh_Borke | been using IRC for 12 yearsish now and never knew that's how it functioned |
| 18:10.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Josh_Borke: welcome to Freenode/Hyperion |
| 18:10.24 | Saint-N | Josh_Borke: only does that on this ircd |
| 18:10.28 | zenzelezz | no |
| 18:10.34 | Josh_Borke | oh, ok |
| 18:10.36 | zenzelezz | it does on other networks too |
| 18:10.40 | Saint-N | not efnet |
| 18:10.47 | Gilial_ | So I have to make a proxy table with a private table to pass the values that I set in the proxy to, or something? Okay.. What about a get metamethod? The only thing I can think of is to use __call and reference values like table.value(), which runs what I want and returns what I want..Is that the only logical way? |
| 18:10.48 | zenzelezz | EFNet isn't the only other network |
| 18:11.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Freenode's ircd was hand coded for Freenode. Likewise they through in a lot of fun features that others don't have. |
| 18:11.17 | Saint-N | zenzelezz: lies! |
| 18:11.27 | Saint-N | and by ircd i meant this server software ;P |
| 18:11.31 | Saint-N | not freenode ;P |
| 18:11.37 | Josh_Borke | Gilial_: what are you trying to do? |
| 18:11.45 | zenzelezz | Saint-N: I know |
| 18:12.01 | Saint-N | it was modified dalnet source |
| 18:12.12 | Saint-N | it wasnt coded from scratch only for freenode |
| 18:12.16 | Saint-N | thats just crazy talk |
| 18:12.21 | Saint-N | you're crazy scythe |
| 18:12.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Actually it was created for freenode, but the code is open |
| 18:13.16 | ScytheBlade1 | http://freenode.net/hyperion.shtml |
| 18:13.17 | zenzelezz | many of the big IRC servers are. I believe ircu is too |
| 18:13.23 | ScytheBlade1 | They forked it just for them |
| 18:13.29 | Saint-N | which in turn was a fork of hybrid 6 |
| 18:13.38 | cncfanatics | so its a fork of a fork of a fork ? :o |
| 18:13.43 | Saint-N | yup |
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| 18:13.59 | Saint-N | and hyper forked from ircii |
| 18:14.12 | Saint-N | on dalnet first or undernet cant remember which |
| 18:14.19 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:14.46 | Gilial_ | @Josh_Borke: Create an object that contains references to values in tables seperate from itself. Have a master table with values that can be changed directly and effect the behavior of objects that rely on the table. I suppose I could use a proxy table for the master table and push the values, when set, to each object somehow. But I have no way of determining how many objects there are, since I can't garuntee where they'll be created |
| 18:15.07 | Saint-N | undernet first |
| 18:15.15 | Saint-N | then dal |
| 18:16.29 | Seerah|away | Just noting that I just read the whole IRC log from when I went afk. And my eyes are like hawks now. ;) |
| 18:16.31 | hi11ie | does anyone know which file in FrameXML defines SendWho()? i'm on a windows box at the moment and the search isn't working |
| 18:17.08 | Saint-N | http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2006/01/13/catart_narrowweb__300x398,0.jpg <-- like that seerah |
| 18:17.27 | DARKGuy | Ew |
| 18:18.56 | zenzelezz | hi11ie: defines? |
| 18:19.16 | Saint-N | what cyclops cat is cute |
| 18:19.27 | Saint-N | i'd name it leela |
| 18:19.57 | Seerah | hehe |
| 18:20.27 | Lunessa | hi11ie: see http://wowcompares.com/ |
| 18:21.24 | Lunessa | They have the full files so you can search in your browser. |
| 18:21.24 | Lunessa | I *heart* wowcompares.com |
| 18:21.24 | dylanm | hi11ie: SendWho is in C. |
| 18:21.56 | hi11ie | k |
| 18:22.42 | Kaso | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SendWho |
| 18:24.18 | Josh_Borke | Gilial_: sounds like you want to set a metatable on the child objects |
| 18:24.31 | Josh_Borke | or do you want to have multiple inheritance? |
| 18:25.27 | ckknight | multiple inheritance makes baby jesus cry |
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| 18:34.41 | Snago | Anyone with a US account that could bump this thread: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5640954513&sid=1 with a link to: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8885-FixBlizzCastBar.html please? :) |
| 18:35.37 | |pez| | huh, I found my first petpeeve with Google Analytics |
| 18:35.48 | cog|work | Snago: done |
| 18:36.10 | Snago | cog|work: thank you :) |
| 18:36.15 | Cairenn | Snago: heh, sorry, forgot you were in here or I could have just pinged you here instead of the PM |
| 18:36.17 | Seerah | beat me :P |
| 18:36.47 | Snago | Cairenn: np :) |
| 18:37.24 | Josh_Borke | Snago: my hypothesis that the Lightning Shield fires a SPELLCAST event is accurate? |
| 18:38.03 | Snago | Josh_Borke: UNIT_SPELLCAST_STOP is the culprit |
| 18:38.08 | Saint-N | |pez|: oh? |
| 18:38.12 | Josh_Borke | that's what i thought |
| 18:39.15 | |pez| | Saint-N: It's got this export to .pdf function |
| 18:39.36 | |pez| | but it sort of breaks. |
| 18:40.30 | |pez| | I have this scheme, and if the scheme is too wide, it breaks, and continues on the next page. |
| 18:40.36 | |pez| | which is... horribly annoying. |
| 18:40.45 | |pez| | I'd rather have it make the text and whatnot smaller. |
| 18:42.07 | |pez| | buuut... no. it doesn't do that. |
| 18:42.50 | Lunessa | ... http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2008/05/nasa-offers-500.html - I should apply. |
| 18:44.11 | Saint-N | hah |
| 18:44.18 | Saint-N | ive seen that on some wikis and forums too |
| 18:44.33 | Saint-N | it doesnt linewrap code snippets properly so it extends well across the page |
| 18:44.35 | cog|work | heh. i saw that earlier today too |
| 18:45.32 | |pez| | it's annoying. |
| 18:45.34 | |pez| | and doomlike. |
| 18:45.43 | |pez| | bbiab. :P |
| 18:45.43 | DARKGuy | fun, I'd do it if they allowed to use my laptop in there |
| 18:45.50 | |pez| | person is switching router. |
| 18:45.53 | |pez| | and I'll fall of the internet. |
| 18:45.58 | Saint-N | hehe thats why the article mentions a wow sub at the bottom dark ;) |
| 18:46.17 | Saint-N | |pez|: thats cuz yer in .no it's got thin parts and fjords ;P |
| 18:46.21 | cncfanatics | heh, if I can play wow & code for those 3 months I'm in |
| 18:46.56 | DARKGuy | me too |
| 18:47.25 | cncfanatics | problem is It'll prolly take another 3 months to recover afterwards |
| 18:47.35 | cncfanatics | so its really 2500$ a month |
| 18:49.05 | Saint-N | and bed sores |
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| 18:51.20 | Lunessa | And headaches. |
| 18:51.24 | Lunessa | Lots of headaches. |
| 18:51.28 | Lunessa | And no sex. |
| 18:52.04 | Snago | All the fun stuff requires US citizenship :( |
| 18:52.31 | cncfanatics | not true |
| 18:52.35 | cncfanatics | get to europe |
| 18:53.12 | Snago | ok, now I lied. But this NASA thing does anyway :P |
| 18:53.28 | Snago | Any USee want to borrow me their passport? ;) |
| 18:53.45 | Saint-N | uk is the best place for drug testing ;P |
| 18:53.49 | Saint-N | err euro |
| 18:54.04 | cncfanatics | <3 EU |
| 18:54.12 | cncfanatics | no silly laws, no silly president |
| 18:55.40 | Lunessa | I *heart* the USA. And yes, I've lived outside of it. |
| 18:57.53 | zenzelezz | I love my country, and generally like the rest of Europe, but I can't agree to the "no silly laws" part |
| 18:58.11 | cncfanatics | less silly laws |
| 18:58.13 | cncfanatics | would be more correcty |
| 18:58.27 | DARKGuy | My country rocks, the president doesnt :( |
| 18:58.51 | cncfanatics | what country is that DARKGuy ? |
| 18:58.58 | DARKGuy | Venezuela :P |
| 18:59.01 | Saint-N | http://www.dailycamera.com/news/2008/may/08/new-ncar-computer-redefines-term-super/ |
| 18:59.12 | Lunessa | The best way I can put it is... everyone likes what they like, where they like it. Because we all like different things, we get to have different places and systems for doing them. |
| 19:00.20 | Kaso | Saint-N, for some reason i read that as NASCAR Computer redfines "super" |
| 19:00.36 | ckknight | lol, same |
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| 19:00.48 | mikma | http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/05/sexy-dancing-vs-peak-oil.php <- not safe for usa-dorks |
| 19:01.32 | haste | <mikma>s/dorks/holes/ |
| 19:02.04 | mikma | http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/05/sexy-dancing-vs-peak-oil.php <- not safe for usa-holes |
| 19:08.53 | Saint-N | http://www.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUSHO44917020080114 |
| 19:10.27 | Cide | wait |
| 19:10.42 | Cide | so it's news about britain's new supercomputer, but it's not in the top 5? |
| 19:12.59 | Kaso | that news article is confusing |
| 19:13.13 | Kaso | its like somone spent 15sec putting it together |
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| 19:15.45 | Seerah | that is a crappy article, kaso |
| 19:18.57 | DARKGuy | Holy crap |
| 19:18.57 | DARKGuy | http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSL0821266920080508?pageNumber=1&virtualBrandChannel=0 |
| 19:20.56 | Kaso | that old man is the epitomte of messed up |
| 19:21.11 | DARKGuy | totally |
| 19:21.31 | Cide | I'm happy I haven't met him |
| 19:21.37 | Cide | I'd probably end up in jail if I did |
| 19:21.43 | DARKGuy | haha |
| 19:22.46 | _rane | oh well |
| 19:23.49 | _rane | some people are just born to be like that |
| 19:24.20 | _rane | or it's the environment they have grown up in |
| 19:26.44 | DARKGuy | Hm :/ |
| 19:26.50 | DARKGuy | who knows what sort of stuff roams his head |
| 19:26.57 | Lunessa | sick, sick, sick. I hope they gas the bastard. But that's just me. |
| 19:27.35 | cog|work | Lunessa: they're carebare... |
| 19:27.41 | cog|work | (eu) |
| 19:28.31 | Lunessa | I know. And we're told what savages we are for having the death penalty. |
| 19:29.30 | |pez| | I really hate the way Norwegian media is covering that case with the Fritzl folks. |
| 19:30.50 | cog|work | Lunessa: well, we are savages, but that's beside the point :P |
| 19:31.10 | Lunessa | Savages FTW. |
| 19:33.19 | DARKGuy | they should wrap him around a column in a gas station and blow him up, then say it was an accident |
| 19:33.21 | DARKGuy | :P |
| 19:33.34 | cog|work | now that's more EU's style |
| 19:33.54 | DARKGuy | and then blame EA and NFSMW players because they teach people to run into gas stations to evade the police |
| 19:33.55 | DARKGuy | :P |
| 19:34.08 | |pez| | Ah, yay, someone has been childish and called me a loose slut... because I didn't agree with them on how they rule their organization. -__-' |
| 19:34.51 | DARKGuy | let them be then, they'll fall by themselves |
| 19:35.49 | |pez| | When they say stuff like that about me, when I really haven't done anything to directly harm them or their organization.... I sort of want to do something. |
| 19:35.58 | DARKGuy | Burn them all. |
| 19:36.32 | DARKGuy | I mean, hey, it hurts, but what can you do? besides words are just words, be happy that you -aren't- what he says |
| 19:37.42 | |pez| | I wouldn't mind if it was some random idiot,. but when he pretends he's my friend. |
| 19:37.49 | |pez| | and then I hear this. |
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| 19:38.25 | DARKGuy | double-faced people, oh how I love them.. |
| 19:38.49 | |pez| | And they have constantly said if I had problems with them, I should take it with them, which I've done. |
| 19:38.56 | |pez| | And then they go behind my back and bitchtalk me. |
| 19:39.03 | |pez| | I want to eat them. |
| 19:39.19 | DARKGuy | you'd get a stomachache |
| 19:39.24 | ckknight | |pez|: well, are you a loose slut? if so, do you have a way I could contact you? jk ;-) |
| 19:39.24 | |pez| | and spit them out again |
| 19:39.24 | DARKGuy | :P |
| 19:39.31 | DARKGuy | lol |
| 19:39.44 | |pez| | ckknight -__-' |
| 19:39.57 | |pez| | If I was, I wouldn't be hurt by it. |
| 19:41.13 | |pez| | I'm not hurt by the truth. :P |
| 19:41.29 | Cide | in which case you wouldn't have brought it up.. which in effect means that the question was useless |
| 19:41.45 | Cide | way to waste precious bandwidth, ckknight! |
| 19:42.07 | ckknight | you're not picking up on jokes today, are you? I even put "jk" and a winking dealy |
| 19:42.34 | Cide | it appears that you're the one not picking up on jokes |
| 19:42.44 | DARKGuy | nobody is :( not even if you put a self.Print(";)") :( |
| 19:43.34 | Cide | we've been through this |
| 19:43.43 | Cide | but there's a difference between getting a joke and finding it funny |
| 19:43.50 | DARKGuy | oh not THAT again |
| 19:43.51 | DARKGuy | :/ |
| 19:44.00 | Cide | exactly |
| 19:44.11 | DARKGuy | no, I mean, let's not argue over something silly again |
| 19:44.18 | Cide | in any case, ckknight, my remark was intended as a light-hearted statement |
| 19:44.23 | Cide | sorry if you misinterpreted it |
| 19:44.54 | ckknight | DARKGuy: ur a big dum-dum! |
| 19:45.26 | cog|work | ckknight: old news |
| 19:45.32 | ckknight | hehe. |
| 19:45.32 | cog|work | <.< |
| 19:45.32 | DARKGuy | ckknight: :P |
| 19:45.33 | cog|work | >.> |
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| 19:46.03 | Lunessa | Again, Cide wins a spot in my heart as Hero from the Land of the Midnight Sun. |
| 19:46.57 | Cide | I'm on a roll today |
| 19:50.17 | Saint-N | ckknight: cide is riding the shortbus today, and lunessa is driving ;P |
| 19:50.24 | Saint-N | ckknight: don't worry though itll get taller |
| 19:50.32 | DARKGuy | XD |
| 19:51.07 | Cide | I'm riding the shortbus now? |
| 19:51.17 | Lunessa | Saint-N: After I put the turbo-charger on it, 48" rims and painted flames on it, the Short Bus is a lean, mean, chick-attracting machine. |
| 19:51.26 | Saint-N | hrm i didnt include the now mind you but i suppose that can fit |
| 19:51.37 | Saint-N | hah AKA gravdigger ;P |
| 19:51.39 | Cide | it's still today |
| 19:51.41 | Saint-N | gravedigger |
| 19:51.49 | DARKGuy | lol |
| 19:51.59 | DARKGuy | gravedigger looked damn cool |
| 19:51.59 | Legorol | Bleh, not good. One of my long-running calculations just aborted due to an assertion failure. |
| 19:52.03 | Saint-N | actually that would be awesome |
| 19:52.10 | Cide | and the only reason it's short is because we're going so fast, length contraction makes it 'short' |
| 19:52.22 | Saint-N | umm wrong way ;P |
| 19:52.28 | Saint-N | as you speed up it streches |
| 19:52.32 | Legorol | The bad part: it's my coding error with the assertion check, I checked for absolute difference instead of relative one. Go me. |
| 19:53.00 | Saint-N | it would be even shorter if you slowed down ;) |
| 19:53.11 | Saint-N | keep that in mind next time you're intimate *snicker* |
| 19:53.11 | Cide | Saint-N: wrong |
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| 19:53.24 | Cide | L' = L/<gamma> |
| 19:53.30 | Saint-N | its all about relative perspective ;P |
| 19:53.44 | Legorol | oh, someone discussing relativity? |
| 19:53.54 | Legorol | this is more interesting than my code |
| 19:53.54 | Cide | correct me if I'm wrong :) |
| 19:54.18 | Cide | but observed length is always shorter than proper length, afaik |
| 19:54.21 | Legorol | your formula for length contraction is correct |
| 19:54.25 | Legorol | that's right |
| 19:54.29 | Cide | so I win? |
| 19:54.32 | Legorol | nothing can ever "stretch" |
| 19:54.43 | Legorol | i don't know if you win, what was the argument |
| 19:55.00 | Cide | Saint-N: keep that in mind the next time you're intimate, while I'm busy riding the chick-attracting now-short bus in 0.8c |
| 19:55.11 | Legorol | rofl |
| 19:55.32 | Legorol | However, be very careful about the whole length contraction thing, you got to make sure you get your frames of reference right |
| 19:55.36 | Cide | Legorol: <Cide> and the only reason it's short is because we're going so fast, length contraction makes it 'short' |
| 19:55.37 | Saint-N | unless you're watching from an outside perspective at which point ti would appear to lenghten and expand |
| 19:55.40 | Legorol | and who is moving relative to whom in what direction at what speed |
| 19:55.58 | Saint-N | thus the ideal of it stereching as it crosses the vent horizon |
| 19:56.04 | Legorol | Cide: your own bus that you are riding is not short for you |
| 19:56.09 | Cide | right |
| 19:56.23 | Cide | but for an outside observer it would be |
| 19:56.25 | Cide | correct? |
| 19:56.27 | Legorol | yup |
| 19:56.39 | Legorol | me standing here in the IRC channel see you zoom by on a compressed bus |
| 19:57.05 | Saint-N | heh alright fine i'll conceed backwardness on that one |
| 19:57.13 | Legorol | unfortunately, due to the relativistic doppler effect, the pitch of your laughter is altered too |
| 19:57.15 | Legorol | it sounds hideous |
| 19:57.19 | DARKGuy | lmao |
| 19:57.22 | Saint-N | hah |
| 19:57.48 | Legorol | Speaking of relativistic doppler effect, one of the most brilliant exercises posed to first year physicists around here is this one: |
| 19:57.48 | Cide | Legorol: chicks dig those laughs. trust me, experiments dictate it's true |
| 19:57.51 | Legorol | i think it's a neat idea |
| 19:58.02 | Legorol | Cide: i concede that, i find it hideous 'cause i'm not a chick |
| 19:58.08 | Legorol | anyway, here is what they pose: |
| 19:58.13 | Cide | does it increase in pitch or decrease? |
| 19:58.28 | Legorol | same as normal doppler: depends if you are approaching or receding |
| 19:58.34 | Cide | ah |
| 19:59.06 | DARKGuy | Time for me to go back home, talk to you guys tomorrow, don't miss me ^^; |
| 19:59.12 | Legorol | anyway, the scifi idea : in the new age, where fast spaceships are commonplace, you can fit the same coloured lightbulb on both the fornt and back of a spaceship |
| 19:59.30 | Legorol | when the spaceship is travelling at the right speed, its front light will appear green, its backlight will appear red |
| 19:59.56 | cncfanatics | Legorol: explain how |
| 20:00.01 | cncfanatics | you tickled my curiosity |
| 20:00.09 | Legorol | (the exercise in question tells you to work out what that speed is, given the wavelength of red/green light) |
| 20:00.25 | Legorol | cncfanatics: non-mathematical explanation incoming |
| 20:00.41 | cncfanatics | hmmm, I think I know |
| 20:00.51 | cncfanatics | the bulb sounds out a certain length of waves |
| 20:00.52 | Legorol | you nkow about the normal doppler effect? when something is heading towards you, it sounds like it has higher pitch, and when its going away, it has lower. |
| 20:00.59 | cncfanatics | I know what the doppler effect is yes |
| 20:01.07 | cncfanatics | its most common application is sound though |
| 20:01.08 | Legorol | the relativistic doppler effect is the same thing but for light |
| 20:01.11 | Legorol | yup |
| 20:01.12 | cncfanatics | I see |
| 20:01.16 | Lunessa | mmm... red-shift/blue-shift problems. |
| 20:01.18 | cncfanatics | going to eat now, bye :p |
| 20:01.38 | Legorol | when a very fast object is coming towards you, the frequency of any light it emits goes up, and vice versa |
| 20:02.02 | Legorol | so by fitting the right bulb with the same colour on both ends, and going at the right speed, the front light (which you see when it's approaching you) will appear shifted to green |
| 20:02.13 | Legorol | and the back light (which you see when it's going away from you) will appear shifted red |
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| 20:02.31 | Legorol | pretty neat idea |
| 20:02.34 | Legorol | but here comes the best part: |
| 20:02.50 | Legorol | Now that we have set the standard speed at which all spaceships must travel in order to have correct lighting, |
| 20:03.02 | Legorol | you can also set the speed at which an overtaking spaceship must travel |
| 20:03.26 | Legorol | so that from the point of view of both the overtaking and overtaken ship, all lighting appears as expected |
| 20:03.41 | Legorol | (ie. the overtaking ship sees the backlight of the overtaken ship as green, because it's coming towards it) |
| 20:04.06 | Legorol | the exercise also asks you to work out what this overtake speed is, if all lighting conditions are as expected |
| 20:04.11 | Legorol | Pretty neat |
| 20:04.24 | Legorol | ok enough relativity |
| 20:04.57 | Saint-N | actually i read that in a book a fwe weeks ago |
| 20:07.47 | Lunessa | I picked up a really fun audio book on physics last summer. I play it often because the author wrote very well, and the reader has a good voice - Brian Green - The Fabric of the Cosmos. good stuff. |
| 20:09.21 | Saint-N | yeah he's got a great writing style |
| 20:09.29 | Saint-N | the only thing that makes me sad is his string latching |
| 20:09.40 | Saint-N | he could be used so much better elsewhere |
| 20:10.17 | Saint-N | Not Even Wrong is a great book too if ya like the string theory vs every other theory |
| 20:10.32 | Lunessa | Right now, if you're not doing strings , you're not getting grant money. |
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| 20:23.27 | Saint-N | true enough |
| 20:23.37 | Saint-N | thats kind of the point of the entire book too |
| 20:24.04 | Saint-N | that there's no way at present to prove whether it's right or wrong and thus detracting from testing other completel viable theories that may prove more fruitful |
| 20:25.29 | Saint-N | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7390109.stm |
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| 20:26.25 | Cide | can't say the title is incorrect, judging by my experiences |
| 20:26.31 | Saint-N | heh |
| 20:26.36 | Saint-N | its an awesome headline though |
| 20:26.54 | Saint-N | truely great tits cope well |
| 20:27.02 | Saint-N | its the man made ones that fair badly |
| 20:27.09 | Saint-N | damn those gene splicers |
| 20:27.55 | Saint-N | http://www.9news.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=91337 bahahhahahaha |
| 20:29.08 | enum | w0oT! 3rd 22" LCD comes in today |
| 20:29.16 | Saint-N | woot |
| 20:29.24 | Saint-N | 9NEWS asked Hartman from his jail cell, "Are you a con man?" |
| 20:29.24 | Saint-N | "Ma'am, if I was a con man, I'd tell you no," he answered. "You'd still doubt me, so you're going to have to judge that for yourself." |
| 20:30.27 | enum | basically... "You won't trust anything I tell you... So, does it matter what I say?" |
| 20:31.26 | cncfanatics | yep |
| 20:31.33 | cncfanatics | seems that guy ain't stupid |
| 20:31.38 | cncfanatics | I'm wondering why he did that |
| 20:33.03 | Saint-N | cuz he could |
| 20:33.14 | Saint-N | although why he needed 20k in atvs is beyond me |
| 20:33.28 | Saint-N | unless they've gotten a LOT more expensive than i remember |
| 20:34.00 | cncfanatics | thats what I'm wondering |
| 20:34.02 | cncfanatics | ONE would be enough |
| 20:34.07 | cncfanatics | and he even could have gotten away with it |
| 20:39.21 | Saint-N | or thrown a fit about them not accepting it and left |
| 20:39.34 | Saint-N | i mean he got cars and trucks and land and a house |
| 20:39.36 | Saint-N | heh |
| 20:40.14 | Saint-N | http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/comedy-centralr-recreates-a-classic,385865.shtml |
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| 20:51.38 | Crysli_ | Good morning |
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| 20:55.45 | Crysli_ | Does anyone know if PitBull frames have other names than PitBullUnitFrame1 and such? I need to parent some panels to a frame, but their names keep switching. |
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| 21:13.16 | hi11ie | is there any way to make SendWho() *not* open up the friends frame?? |
| 21:13.54 | Cide | FriendsFrame.Show = function() end |
| 21:13.59 | Cide | (not recommended) |
| 21:14.15 | cog|work | FriendsFrame:UnregisterEvent("WHATEVER_THE_WHO_EVENT_IS") |
| 21:14.16 | Cide | FriendsFrame:UnregisterEvent("WHATEVER_EVENT_SENDWHO()_FIRES") is a better suggestion |
| 21:14.22 | Cide | bah cog :P |
| 21:15.49 | cog|work | hi11ie: how to figure out things like this yourself: 1) Find out what causes the friends frame to open, 2) Stop that from happening... |
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| 21:16.36 | hi11ie | cog|work: i've spent all day trying to figure it out. |
| 21:17.10 | cog|work | hi11ie: what have you spent all day doing? did you look in Blizzard's code to see what causes the friends frame to show? Did you even know what frame it was? ;) |
| 21:18.28 | hi11ie | cog|work: ShowWhoPanel(), FriendsFrame:Show(), ToggleFriendsPanel()..... |
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| 21:18.47 | cog|work | Next step, find out where those functions are called |
| 21:18.48 | hi11ie | and SendWho() is apparently in C so I can't change that |
| 21:18.56 | hi11ie | ^^^ |
| 21:19.00 | Cide | hi11ie: that function isn't hardcoded to display the FriendsFrame |
| 21:19.07 | Cide | that would be a security flaw |
| 21:19.07 | cog|work | hi11ie: sendwho has nothing to do with it |
| 21:19.18 | cog|work | (with the actual showing of the frame) |
| 21:19.24 | Cide | those functions trigger an event which FriendsFrame registers for |
| 21:19.31 | cog|work | Cide: stop |
| 21:19.40 | cog|work | trying to lead thought process not give answers :P |
| 21:20.05 | Cide | cog|work: meh. www.google.com/search?q=event+based+programming |
| 21:20.13 | Cide | s/based/driven/ |
| 21:20.21 | Cide | is what I'd do then :P |
| 21:20.54 | cog|work | lead, not redirect :P |
| 21:21.01 | Cide | fine :P |
| 21:21.05 | Cide | hi11ie: forget everything I said |
| 21:21.11 | hi11ie | this place is for answers, not holier than though 18 year olds who prefer to act high and mighty and assume that everyone is a noob who doesn't do their homework. |
| 21:21.21 | cog|work | hi11ie: once you know the functions that physically show/hide the frame, then look for code that calls them |
| 21:21.44 | cog|work | O.o |
| 21:21.46 | cog|work | k then |
| 21:21.48 | Cide | haha |
| 21:21.50 | Cide | I hate those people |
| 21:23.20 | Cide | they totally misunderstand the purpose of help channels |
| 21:24.58 | ckknight | he even misspelled holier-than-thou |
| 21:25.01 | ckknight | :-P |
| 21:25.31 | |pez| | indeed he did. |
| 21:25.40 | |pez| | smartypants fails at being smart. |
| 21:25.49 | ckknight | s-m-r-t |
| 21:25.53 | ckknight | I mean s-m-a-r-t |
| 21:25.56 | ckknight | :-P |
| 21:27.00 | |pez| | I said that once. like "I am smart! :D S M R T!" |
| 21:27.11 | |pez| | needless to say, my boyfriend giggled a bit. |
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| 21:48.22 | Esamynn | Cide: wait, what??! you were expecting someone who came here for "help" to actually use their brain? :P |
| 21:49.25 | Cide | I guess |
| 21:49.49 | Shirik | wtf is a brain |
| 21:50.14 | Cide | Shirik: hi! |
| 21:50.19 | Cide | I missed you |
| 21:50.24 | Josh_Borke | ~failrik |
| 21:50.25 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 21:50.29 | Cide | no :( |
| 21:50.38 | Josh_Borke | :-D |
| 21:50.42 | Shirik | :( |
| 21:51.05 | ckknight | lol, Josh_Borke |
| 21:51.16 | Esamynn | lol |
| 21:51.18 | Cide | hey, I invented that! |
| 21:51.19 | Esamynn | ~botsnack |
| 21:51.19 | purl | Esamynn: :) |
| 21:51.32 | Josh_Borke | cide: yea, but see how i stole the credit? :-D |
| 21:51.39 | Esamynn | ~lart Josh_Borke |
| 21:51.40 | purl | sends a legion of lawyers after Josh_Borke's head |
| 21:51.40 | Cide | yeah, sneaky bastard |
| 21:51.42 | Esamynn | bad Josh_Borke |
| 21:51.58 | Esamynn | yay purl! 8) |
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| 22:11.51 | Silviu- | Hello , can anyone pls look over this code: http://ace.pastey.net/87477 and tell me how to delay "function addon:update" line 50 to 1 minute, not every frame to run it ? ( bare in mind i`m pretty much noob in lua ) ;p |
| 22:13.16 | dylanm | Silviu-: This is a durability monitor? |
| 22:13.33 | Silviu- | dylanm yes + clock |
| 22:13.36 | Industrial | will s2 cost just as much as s1 now? |
| 22:13.45 | Josh_Borke | Industrial: did S4 start? |
| 22:13.49 | Industrial | no |
| 22:13.57 | Industrial | im saying will not does :p |
| 22:14.01 | dylanm | Industrial: The prices are somewhere. |
| 22:14.03 | dylanm | I think. |
| 22:14.21 | Josh_Borke | Industrial: yes |
| 22:14.34 | Josh_Borke | doubtfully exactly |
| 22:14.38 | Shirik | Silviu-, didn't Josh_Borke just show you how to do that? |
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| 22:15.03 | Silviu- | Shirik he tryed but as i said, i`m noob in lua and can`t make it work :( |
| 22:15.27 | Shirik | ok well let's try to make you less noob |
| 22:15.28 | Esamynn | Silviu-: you're already storing a counter of how much time has passed, put in an IF statement to reset last to 0 and return if it goes over 60 |
| 22:15.35 | Shirik | first lesson: More comments. A lot more. |
| 22:15.57 | dylanm | There's an event that fires upon durability changes, isn't there? |
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| 22:17.01 | Shirik | !api math.modf |
| 22:17.01 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'math.modf' can be found at http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-math.modf |
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| 22:17.36 | dylanm | UPDATE_INVENTORY_DURABILITY |
| 22:18.01 | Djorama | hi people |
| 22:18.16 | Shirik | hi |
| 22:18.48 | Djorama | can somone recomend a race class for me? im new to WOW. |
| 22:18.54 | dylanm | New in 2.4. I used to use UPDATE_INVENTORY_ALERTS. |
| 22:18.55 | clad|away | drunk clad is drunk |
| 22:19.09 | dylanm | Which, despite its name, fired whenever durability changed. |
| 22:19.20 | dylanm | Even if it wasn't yellow/red territory. |
| 22:20.12 | cog|work | clad|away: I wondered what the "few hours" was for |
| 22:20.14 | cog|work | ;) |
| 22:20.33 | clad|away | trying to enjoy myself :P |
| 22:20.38 | dylanm | Djorama: Sort of depends upon what you want to do. |
| 22:20.39 | Esamynn | lol |
| 22:21.33 | Djorama | >.> |
| 22:21.33 | dylanm | Djorama: Roll an alliance shaman if you want to feel loved. |
| 22:21.33 | cog|work | <.< |
| 22:21.33 | cog|work | >.> |
| 22:21.33 | dylanm | That's one absolute I can certainly tell you. |
| 22:21.36 | Djorama | okay... |
| 22:21.47 | Esamynn | dylanm: ROFL |
| 22:22.10 | dylanm | Esamynn: It's true! |
| 22:22.19 | clad|away | cog|work: nor do, and thats certainly isnt the source of my enjoyment |
| 22:22.39 | Esamynn | dylanm: to a certain point, Resto Shamans, I think maybe more than other specs ;) |
| 22:22.40 | clad|away | got to go to formal hall with some friends, which was enjoyable to say the least |
| 22:22.49 | clad|away | just happaned to get drunk at the same time ;P |
| 22:22.51 | Djorama | I was realy prefering a melee claaa. |
| 22:22.53 | clad|away | nah, cladhaire is just too literal |
| 22:22.55 | dylanm | Esamynn: I didn't even want to go into specs. He'll figure it out soon enough. |
| 22:22.57 | Djorama | class* |
| 22:23.05 | cog|work | clad|away: but no one else seemed to notice, either |
| 22:23.17 | clad|away | :P |
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| 22:23.30 | Lunessa | cog|work: I got it... but I was just now reading the buffer. |
| 22:23.32 | cog|work | so... |
| 22:23.33 | cog|work | ~fail me |
| 22:23.34 | purl | cog|work, you Fail! |
| 22:23.39 | Shirik | ~fail cog|work |
| 22:23.40 | purl | cog|work: FAIL! |
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| 22:24.33 | clad|away | ~fail me |
| 22:24.33 | purl | clad|away: FAIL! |
| 22:24.36 | clad|away | eew |
| 22:24.41 | clad|away | i typed /nick me before that |
| 22:24.47 | clad|away | but i think its too small for the min nick name |
| 22:24.50 | dylanm | Djorama: Enhancement shaman are melee DPS, just to note. |
| 22:24.52 | me | do me :P |
| 22:24.54 | Lunessa | cog|work: ... thanks, now that stupid song from the 80s is stuck in my head... "We don't have to take our clothes off... to have a good time... oh yeah" |
| 22:24.59 | dylanm | Warriors are quite good. |
| 22:25.41 | dylanm | Rogues are supposed to be the theoretical top-end of deepz but there are just so many of them. |
| 22:25.47 | Esamynn | aye |
| 22:25.53 | me | shirik: you even typo'ed |
| 22:25.59 | Shirik | I win |
| 22:26.12 | Esamynn | Enhancement Shamans are up there on the dps charts too, AND they buff those around them |
| 22:26.29 | Djorama | dps? |
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| 22:26.34 | Shirik | <3 cog|work |
| 22:26.34 | dylanm | Esamynn: Are you a shaman :p |
| 22:26.41 | Esamynn | my alt is 8) |
| 22:26.48 | dylanm | Djorama: Damage Per Second. |
| 22:27.10 | Djorama | okay, well ill try it, thanks everyone. <3 |
| 22:27.33 | cog|work | Shirik: was it good for you? |
| 22:27.38 | dylanm | Hurray we helped someone. |
| 22:27.38 | Shirik | oh very good |
| 22:27.44 | Esamynn | dylanm: lol |
| 22:27.56 | Esamynn | dylanm: Windfury Totem FTW!!! 8) |
| 22:28.06 | dylanm | My retadin loves the totems. |
| 22:28.24 | Lunessa | Windfury Weapon Totem is like... weapon sex. |
| 22:28.35 | Esamynn | indeed |
| 22:28.54 | Esamynn | dylanm: the retadin in my guild notices a 10-20% dps difference from WF Totem |
| 22:29.02 | dylanm | Oh we need it. |
| 22:29.18 | dylanm | There's hardly a point to bringing one if you won't give him WF. |
| 22:29.25 | Esamynn | lol |
| 22:29.55 | Lunessa | People love the Windfury. I hear incredible QQ from people who do melee DPS who can't get in the shaman's group. |
| 22:30.05 | Esamynn | lol |
| 22:30.27 | Esamynn | and the casters in my guild QQ when they aren't put in the group with out Elem Shammy and Boomkin ;) |
| 22:30.30 | dylanm | That is to say even with the extra blessing, keeping up judgements, +3% crit and all you still need to push your damage to the theoretical maximum. |
| 22:30.35 | Esamynn | s/out/our/ |
| 22:30.48 | nevcairiel | and shadow priest? =P |
| 22:31.07 | Silviu- | oh u have an boomkin ? |
| 22:31.07 | Esamynn | well, yah :P |
| 22:31.12 | Esamynn | yes, we do |
| 22:31.14 | Silviu- | Cool |
| 22:31.21 | Silviu- | We never tryed with one |
| 22:31.24 | Tem|afk | I'd rather _not_ put the retadin in the WF group if I have a real dps to put there instead |
| 22:31.40 | Esamynn | lol |
| 22:31.41 | Tem|afk | the retadin doesn't have to do very good dps to be worth the raid spot |
| 22:31.51 | Shirik | eh, we have a ret pally with our raid team now |
| 22:31.53 | Tem|afk | the buff he gives to the raid group is enough |
| 22:31.59 | Shirik | he's actually rather beneficial |
| 22:32.05 | Shirik | I don't know if he's in the WF group or not though |
| 22:32.20 | Tem|afk | 1.2 * 2k > 1.2 * 1.5k |
| 22:32.39 | Esamynn | forgive me for my ignorance, but, what buff is it that a Ret Paladin provides? |
| 22:32.59 | Tem|afk | there's a debuff of his which I can't recall atm, that buffs the entire raid's damage |
| 22:33.04 | Tem|afk | by like 3% or so |
| 22:33.13 | nevcairiel | 3% crit for everyone iirc |
| 22:33.18 | Lunessa | There's a ret paladin in my guild... his numbers make people cry with envy. He's very good at what he does. |
| 22:33.20 | Tem|afk | ah yeah, that's it |
| 22:33.43 | nevcairiel | And he can keep up other judges if a holy paladin applys it |
| 22:33.45 | nevcairiel | like wisdom |
| 22:33.59 | Tem|afk | yeah, that's really niec |
| 22:34.09 | Tem|afk | it's hell making holy pallies keep judgements up |
| 22:34.29 | Esamynn | wait, what? I thought a paladin could only keep up their own judgement... |
| 22:34.38 | nevcairiel | retarding have crusader strike |
| 22:34.40 | Tem|afk | crusader strike keeps all judgements up |
| 22:34.40 | soufron | turlututu Shirik |
| 22:34.45 | nevcairiel | which refreshes all judgements on the target |
| 22:35.00 | Shirik | food time! /vanish |
| 22:35.09 | Lunessa | Crusader Strike is teh awsum |
| 22:35.34 | nevcairiel | too bad they dont supply healer buffs =P |
| 22:35.52 | dylanm | Too bad wisdom is kinda weak. I guess hunters like it. |
| 22:36.25 | Esamynn | oh, interesting |
| 22:36.49 | Esamynn | I wouldn't say Wisdom is weak |
| 22:37.29 | Lunessa | Wisdom very handy. Very handy. |
| 22:37.46 | Lunessa | I love it for my priest or 'lock. |
| 22:38.40 | Tem|afk | Wisdom is great |
| 22:38.57 | Tem|afk | except for the bug where frostbolt can't proc it |
| 22:39.01 | Tem|afk | (le sigh) |
| 22:39.37 | Lunessa | Ah, gave up being a frost mage when 2.0 shipped. |
| 22:43.46 | Esamynn | ahh ha, found it, Improved Seal of the Crusader |
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| 22:52.22 | Shadowed | Gnarfoz: pong |
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| 22:59.08 | Gnarfoz | actually by now my problem has kind-of been answered: I was going to say that somehow, Afflicted doesn't support redirecting bars to the groups it itself creates via GTB - but: it seems that SpellBreaker (another addon using GTB) was somehow interfering. once I disabled it, Afflicted started working correctly |
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| 23:34.39 | Shirik | my guild is strange, http://i26.tinypic.com/de5yt5.jpg |
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| 23:36.14 | Lunessa | lawl |
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| 23:41.20 | Duman | hmm |
| 23:41.29 | Duman | I think the forums just assploded |
| 23:42.38 | Duman | or maybe it was my browser, wtf |
| 23:43.23 | Sixen | Yeah, you too Duman? |
| 23:43.30 | Sixen | The textboxes are all messed up for me. |
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| 23:56.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Duman: same thing here... been that way for a bit |
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| 23:58.44 | Sixen | What I said, sbo? |
| 23:59.44 | Keias | Shirik, they've been giving me samples in the mail. |
| 23:59.50 | Keias | 1c with a gold buying ad! |
| 23:59.55 | Shirik | haha |
