| 00:00.08 | Corrodias | only? |
| 00:00.08 | MentalPower | not 1.3GB |
| 00:00.13 | Iriel | You're not doing in wow |
| 00:00.19 | MentalPower | correct |
| 00:00.21 | Iriel | and you've forgotten that wow has much larger objects because of taint |
| 00:00.34 | Xinhuan | hmm taint... |
| 00:00.36 | Iriel | the constant factors are different in stand alone implementations |
| 00:00.43 | MentalPower | so those numbers are for WoW? |
| 00:00.47 | Iriel | yes |
| 00:00.51 | MentalPower | ah, ok |
| 00:01.04 | Iriel | you can change the 16 and 36 depending on your lua implementation |
| 00:01.05 | Corrodias | my taint indeed requires MUCH larger objects to represent |
| 00:01.13 | Xinhuan | array style table: /run i = 0 abc = {} while true do i = i + 1 abc[i] = i end should give 2^19 entries at max in wow |
| 00:01.21 | Xinhuan | not sure if 2^19 will vary by machine |
| 00:01.34 | Xinhuan | you can just /dump i |
| 00:01.35 | Iriel | (actually, I'd revise the taint comment, wow has much large objects because of how wow is compiled, taint did add a huge overhead at first but slouken managed to fix most of that) |
| 00:02.01 | Iriel | THIS limit will depend on the memory management involved |
| 00:02.23 | Xinhuan | anyone else got a different number from 2^19 yet? |
| 00:02.27 | Xinhuan | there might be some internal wow limit |
| 00:02.43 | Iriel | I would expect wow has a fairly advanced memory manager |
| 00:02.45 | MentalPower | lua> 2^19, 524288 |
| 00:02.46 | lua_bot | MentalPower: 524288, 524288 |
| 00:02.55 | MentalPower | thats what I got for arrays |
| 00:03.26 | Xinhuan | /run i = 0 abc = {} while true do i = i + 1 abc[tostring(i)] = i end |
| 00:03.32 | Xinhuan | this should work for hash arrays |
| 00:03.36 | Xinhuan | since its juststrings |
| 00:04.02 | Xinhuan | i got 262144 entries i think |
| 00:04.06 | MentalPower | 530673 is what I got for hashes |
| 00:04.17 | MentalPower | I chose i+10000 |
| 00:04.21 | Xinhuan | did you nil and GC the other array first |
| 00:04.25 | MentalPower | no strings to much up the strings table |
| 00:04.30 | MentalPower | yes i did |
| 00:04.39 | Xinhuan | 262144 is a power of 2 |
| 00:05.04 | MentalPower | ./run t={} local t,i=t,0 while true do t[10000+i] = true i=i+1 end |
| 00:05.06 | MentalPower | ./run local i=0 for k in pairs(t) do i=i+1 end ChatFrame1:AddMessage(i) t=nil collectgarbage() |
| 00:05.31 | MentalPower | thats my test case |
| 00:05.42 | MentalPower | (for hashes) |
| 00:05.53 | Xinhuan | i got 530674 entries with your method |
| 00:05.57 | MentalPower | ./run t={} local t,i=t,0 while true do t[0+i] = true i=i+1 end |
| 00:05.58 | MentalPower | ./run local i=0 for k in pairs(t) do i=i+1 end ChatFrame1:AddMessage(i) t=nil collectgarbage() |
| 00:06.00 | Xinhuan | try the tostring() one |
| 00:06.04 | MentalPower | thats the test case for array |
| 00:06.29 | Iriel | What's 530,674? the point at which it thows an exception? |
| 00:06.52 | MentalPower | 262144 |
| 00:07.07 | Xinhuan | yeah 262144 is a power of 2, same as my results |
| 00:07.10 | MentalPower | Iriel: the number of entries in the table after the exeption |
| 00:07.22 | Xinhuan | your 530673 makes no sense |
| 00:07.34 | MentalPower | do you get the same number? |
| 00:07.36 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 00:07.39 | Iriel | MP your test is flawed if you dont use strings |
| 00:07.39 | Xinhuan | same number |
| 00:07.46 | MentalPower | Iriel: y? |
| 00:07.49 | Iriel | because once you have more than 20000 entries it'll start using array style |
| 00:08.04 | MentalPower | even if it doesn't start at 1? |
| 00:08.08 | Iriel | try i * 100 instead |
| 00:08.29 | MentalPower | well, *that's* new |
| 00:08.33 | Xinhuan | 262144 using i*100 |
| 00:08.36 | MentalPower | I didn't know Lua was so smart |
| 00:08.36 | Iriel | it's always been that way |
| 00:08.40 | Iriel | it's based on the packing density |
| 00:08.47 | Iriel | 262144 makes sense |
| 00:09.05 | Iriel | Which means the limit is somewhere between 10485796 and 16777252 |
| 00:09.22 | MentalPower | nice trick for Lua :) |
| 00:09.25 | Xinhuan | how do you get 530673 though |
| 00:09.33 | Xinhuan | even if you deduct 20000 from that |
| 00:09.41 | Iriel | Which makes sense because 2^24 is 16MB |
| 00:09.41 | Xinhuan | its still not really a power of 2 |
| 00:09.47 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: hybrid table? |
| 00:09.59 | Xinhuan | hybrid table memory allocation is weird |
| 00:10.54 | Iriel | 530673 doesn't make sense to me either 8-) |
| 00:11.09 | MentalPower | lets just throw away that one shall we :P |
| 00:11.30 | Xinhuan | nev, think this has any relevance to the Block too Big Ace2 errors ppl are getting? |
| 00:11.36 | Iriel | It could |
| 00:11.47 | Iriel | I think we've determined lua can't allocate a block larger than 16MB |
| 00:11.50 | Xinhuan | most of the stack traces for those involve a :GetRegion() |
| 00:11.59 | Iriel | so if you manage to make a single data structure blow that limit, you'll get it |
| 00:12.00 | nevcairiel | Its probably still some crazy addon abusing and blaming :) |
| 00:12.04 | Xinhuan | i don't think :GetRegions() returns a 16 mb memory block, would it? |
| 00:12.16 | Iriel | No, the only data structures i could think of there would be: |
| 00:12.32 | Iriel | a) the stack b) the string table and c) the frame identity table (or if wow uses it, the lua ref table) |
| 00:12.36 | Xinhuan | can't imagine there to be so many regions that the return list of arguments exceeds htat |
| 00:12.37 | MentalPower | return 36 + math.pow(2, math.ceil(math.log(2^19) / math.log(2))) * 16, math.pow(2,math.ceil(math.log(262144)/math.log(2))) * 40 + 36, |
| 00:12.39 | Legorol | is it not possible that it has to create structures on the C side though when you call it? |
| 00:12.45 | Xinhuan | what's the stack size |
| 00:12.47 | Xinhuan | in lua |
| 00:12.48 | MentalPower | lua> return 36 + math.pow(2, math.ceil(math.log(2^19) / math.log(2))) * 16, math.pow(2,math.ceil(math.log(262144)/math.log(2))) * 40 + 36 |
| 00:12.48 | lua_bot | MentalPower: 8388644, 10485796 |
| 00:12.56 | Iriel | lua doesn't have a cap, it's just on the heap |
| 00:13.12 | Iriel | but the entry size is small |
| 00:13.43 | Xinhuan | but if the stack space is all used up, does it say Block Too big, or Out of STack space? |
| 00:13.50 | Xinhuan | on a GetRegions() call |
| 00:14.10 | Legorol | In light of what's been said about having to reallocate when a table grows, how about this: |
| 00:14.23 | Legorol | any individual GetRegions call's return amount might be small, but |
| 00:14.26 | Iriel | I really doubt it's the stack, unless blizzard's code passed the wrong value to the check stack size function |
| 00:14.32 | Legorol | each time you call it, you add entries toa table or something |
| 00:14.39 | Iriel | remember that GetRegions has to instantiate the lua table for any previously unreferenced region |
| 00:14.44 | Legorol | so eventually you reach a point where you have to reallocate that table, and it's grown too big |
| 00:14.46 | Legorol | is this possible? |
| 00:14.50 | Iriel | I dont know what was being getregion-ed |
| 00:14.51 | MentalPower | Xinhuan: prolly block too big, since most :GetRegions() calls are like t = {Frame:GetRegions()} |
| 00:15.22 | Xinhuan | hmmm i'll have a look at the code in those error reports possibly |
| 00:16.10 | MentalPower | Legorol: but the block too big error has been encountered in other ways not involving :GetRegions() |
| 00:16.20 | MentalPower | ie, Xinhuan's case |
| 00:16.27 | Legorol | i understand, but i'm saying how GetRegions could cause it |
| 00:16.32 | Legorol | it's just a vague notion |
| 00:16.43 | Legorol | there are probably many different ways of causing it |
| 00:17.10 | Iriel | The question there is did the error happen IN get regions, or because of what was being done with the result, BUT |
| 00:17.18 | Legorol | does GetRegions cause entries to appear in the global table? |
| 00:17.19 | Iriel | I thought there was a hard limit on the number of regions that COULD be returned |
| 00:17.22 | Iriel | Legorol: No |
| 00:17.45 | nevcairiel | I dont think GetRegions would return over 200k results =P |
| 00:17.55 | Iriel | what is the thing being getregion'ed? |
| 00:18.14 | Iriel | Does it have a lot of normally anonymous entries? |
| 00:18.17 | Xinhuan | Iriel: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=12787.0;topicseen |
| 00:18.27 | Iriel | Like, maybe a tooltip that got over-zealously AddLine'ed |
| 00:18.43 | nevcairiel | [2008/04/14 11:57:44-512-x6]: memory allocation error: block too big: |
| 00:18.43 | nevcairiel | <in C code>: in function `GetRegions' |
| 00:18.47 | nevcairiel | ^^ |
| 00:18.56 | Xinhuan | there's quite a few stack traces over the 4 pages |
| 00:19.13 | MentalPower | yeah, but what do those codelines contain? |
| 00:19.14 | Iriel | I've seen teh thread |
| 00:19.15 | Legorol | still, the number of references that need to be returned to the Lua side can't be astronomical |
| 00:19.18 | Iriel | but I dont know the code below |
| 00:19.19 | MentalPower | thats the real question |
| 00:19.26 | Legorol | it won't even be in the order of thousands |
| 00:19.33 | Xinhuan | that's what we should be checking now |
| 00:19.53 | Xinhuan | cowtip appearance line 382? |
| 00:19.55 | Iriel | What if, for example, there's a GameTooltip that's had a couple of hundred thousand lines added to it by bad code |
| 00:19.56 | Xinhuan | anyone use cowtip here? |
| 00:20.12 | Stanzilla | < |
| 00:20.20 | Xinhuan | whats on line 382 of appearance.lua |
| 00:20.30 | Iriel | then you call GetRegions, and wow now has to create and register a couuple of hundred thousand extra tables, and add them to the hash which I assume exists to map frame userdata to lua table |
| 00:20.43 | Stanzilla | Xinhuan: fillTmp(tooltip:GetRegions()) |
| 00:20.45 | Legorol | i forget, does GetRegions return a table, or multiple return values |
| 00:20.52 | Iriel | the latter |
| 00:20.53 | MentalPower | values |
| 00:21.06 | Xinhuan | ok i'm going to assume fillTmp() is just a function to fill in a table that gets reused |
| 00:21.07 | Iriel | I really dont think this is the return of GetRegions that is being allocated |
| 00:21.17 | Iriel | I think it's the environment impact of the stuff GetRegions DOES |
| 00:21.20 | Legorol | i don't think so either |
| 00:21.34 | MentalPower | I agree with Iriel after seeing that codeline |
| 00:21.40 | nevcairiel | According to the errors, the exception occurs inside GetRegions |
| 00:21.45 | Xinhuan | it could be something you can get Slouken or Zoot to look at |
| 00:21.45 | Legorol | oth, the weird thing is: even if GetRegions causes several thousand fresh Lua objects to be created, |
| 00:21.53 | Legorol | they are all separate, individual objects |
| 00:21.56 | Xinhuan | and see if the GetRegions() call has any memory issues with it |
| 00:21.58 | Legorol | none of which would be large tables |
| 00:22.24 | Legorol | for the block too big to occur, something somewhere has to be creating one large table, no? |
| 00:22.26 | Iriel | I've hypothesized for some time that somewhere in the wow C++/Lua interface is a hash or array that maps C++ frame objects to their lua tables |
| 00:22.28 | nevcairiel | internally it probably still creates some table to store stuff in, and then pass to the return func |
| 00:22.45 | Iriel | Every time you reference a new frame, it has to add an entry to that table |
| 00:23.02 | Legorol | Iriel: you mean a C->Lua map, and not the other way around? |
| 00:23.03 | Iriel | My gut feeling is it's that table which is being overflowed |
| 00:23.07 | Iriel | Yes |
| 00:23.10 | Iriel | You dont need a Lua -> C map |
| 00:23.11 | Legorol | interesting |
| 00:23.15 | Iriel | That's what [0] is |
| 00:23.17 | Xinhuan | there aren't that many frames in wow |
| 00:23.18 | Legorol | well you have the Lua -> C map |
| 00:23.19 | Legorol | yeah |
| 00:23.26 | Legorol | what would you use a C -> Lua map for? |
| 00:23.30 | MentalPower | Xinhuan: there are quite a few |
| 00:23.40 | Xinhuan | and cowtip certainly isn't that dumb to create 2000000 fontstrings |
| 00:23.46 | MentalPower | no |
| 00:23.47 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: if you count regions .. there are alot |
| 00:23.47 | Legorol | Xinhuan: Regions cover not only frames, but also fontstrings and textures |
| 00:24.12 | Xinhuan | so you're hypothesizing wow maintains a global internal list of these? |
| 00:24.21 | Iriel | it more or less has to, somewhere |
| 00:24.31 | MentalPower | thats the conclusion we're coming to with the data we have |
| 00:24.42 | Iriel | and it's much easier from a C api perspective to keep one lua table to look them up, then having a GC-aware lua reference in every C++ object |
| 00:24.59 | Xinhuan | i'll suggest shooting an email about it ;p |
| 00:25.20 | Legorol | Iriel, why would the game need to keep such a map? |
| 00:25.27 | Iriel | I suggest checking the cowtip code and seeing if there's an error that could cause far too many objects to be created |
| 00:25.35 | Iriel | Legorol: How would YOU impleemnt EnumerateFrames? |
| 00:25.56 | MentalPower | Iriel: get outta my head1 |
| 00:25.57 | Iriel | We already know frames aren't GC'ed when *WE* unreference them |
| 00:26.04 | MentalPower | s/1/!/ |
| 00:26.10 | Iriel | and you consistently get the same one when you grab a frame from a C++method |
| 00:26.15 | Iriel | so SOMEWHERE there's a cross-reference |
| 00:26.18 | Legorol | Iriel: that just means that WoW internally has a full list of frames |
| 00:26.29 | MentalPower | I was just thinking that EnumerateFrames(frame) sounded like a wrapper for next() |
| 00:26.30 | Legorol | but it doesn't mean it keeps a map of all frames to their corresponding Lua tables |
| 00:26.31 | Iriel | and I dont think slouken would maintain the frame relationships in both C++ and lua |
| 00:26.35 | Legorol | that's two different things |
| 00:26.45 | Iriel | so somehow it has to be able to get from a C++ frame object to a lua table |
| 00:27.05 | zenzelezz | one thing that still perplexes me about Eastern Plaguelands is the bunny texture on trees: http://www.hovlandsdal.com:7080/~zenzelezz/bunny_of_death.jpg |
| 00:27.11 | Iriel | and as I noted above, it's much easier to use a single lookup table for that than suddenly bother the lua GC engine with a reference on each of your C++ objects |
| 00:27.39 | Legorol | ok here is a werid thing: |
| 00:28.10 | Legorol | EnumerateFrames takes a reference to an existing Lua frame table, right? |
| 00:28.15 | Iriel | Right |
| 00:28.20 | Legorol | and returns a reference to another Lua table |
| 00:28.26 | Iriel | right |
| 00:28.39 | Legorol | what objects does EnumerateFrames cover? |
| 00:28.40 | Iriel | it also doesn't include regions |
| 00:28.46 | Legorol | does it cover all regions? |
| 00:28.48 | Legorol | exactly |
| 00:29.00 | Atriace | For some reason I can't use UnitName("player").."@"..GetRealmName() as a table key. Can I not use a string as a table key or am I missing a special escape code? |
| 00:29.02 | Iriel | but this has nothing to do with 'next' 8-) |
| 00:29.17 | Iriel | this has everything to do with wow being able to get your the SINGLE lua table for a given C++ frame |
| 00:29.24 | Legorol | just bear with me a sec, this is helping my understanding :) |
| 00:29.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Atriace: not sure about this, but use - instead of @ - that should work |
| 00:29.36 | Iriel | EnumerateFrames, GetChildren, and GetRegions all need that ability |
| 00:29.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Atriace: I use UnitGUID("player").."-"..GetRealmName() as a key just fine |
| 00:29.56 | Legorol | ok, here is the thing i don't get: |
| 00:30.09 | Legorol | why do you need to persistently maintain a full list of all C -> Lua maps |
| 00:30.27 | Atriace | ScytheBlade1: I probably would but I'm addressing someone else's table and they use @ |
| 00:30.27 | Legorol | as long as you are able to generate it as and when it's needed, and create a Lua table when needed |
| 00:30.35 | Iriel | How do you know if you need to create one? |
| 00:30.39 | Iriel | or just return the one you created before? |
| 00:30.40 | Xinhuan | the rendering system needs it maybe? |
| 00:30.42 | Iriel | if you dont have a map? |
| 00:31.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Atriace: "weird" |
| 00:31.29 | Iriel | Legorol: One more data point for you |
| 00:32.07 | nevcairiel | well if its constantly maintained, there would be no reason for GetRegions to die, no? I though the theory was that calling GetRegions somehow starts to build a full table, and that fails, or did i fall asleep somewhere in the middle? ;) |
| 00:32.10 | Iriel | Legorol: The C++ code can't simply store a pointer to the lua object, because that wouldn't prevent the object from being GC'ed. So it has to be reachable from a 'known' location. Lua provides a ocuple of internal mechanisms for this, and they're table-based. |
| 00:32.43 | Iriel | Can someone just instrument CowTip with a count on that method, and track the highwatermark, and print a message every time it's exceeded |
| 00:32.51 | Iriel | we can at least see if it's getting more and more and more regions |
| 00:33.00 | Legorol | ok, simple question: |
| 00:33.05 | Xinhuan | cowtip isn't the only addon doing it |
| 00:33.05 | Iriel | also check that the tooltip it's using is the same one each time, adn it's not accidently creating a new one every time it runs |
| 00:33.09 | Legorol | if all UI code references to a frame are dropped, |
| 00:33.12 | Xinhuan | arkinventory is another one apparantly |
| 00:33.23 | Legorol | how can we tell if the table describing that frame got GC-d or not? |
| 00:33.36 | MentalPower | Legorol: tostring() |
| 00:33.39 | Legorol | simple example: CreateFrame(), then nil out the global entry |
| 00:33.52 | MentalPower | tostring() gives the address of the table |
| 00:33.54 | Legorol | and discard the return value |
| 00:33.55 | MentalPower | that would be the same |
| 00:33.58 | Atriace | So is there no way to use @ ? |
| 00:34.19 | MentalPower | Atriace: you can use @ just fine |
| 00:34.29 | Legorol | Iriel: ok I think I understand where you are coming from, but here is an alternative view: |
| 00:34.45 | Iriel | Legorol: We dont know for sure, but based on things slouken said when we got GetRegions and GetChildren i think it's true |
| 00:34.45 | Legorol | WoW can have an entirely C-side list of all frames, without knowing the maps to Lua |
| 00:35.02 | Legorol | when you call EnumerateFrames, the [0] entry in the table you pass as argument can be used as an index into that list |
| 00:35.31 | Xinhuan | Atriace, he probably just did it wrong |
| 00:35.44 | Atriace | MentalPower: I keep getting errors when I try to use it though. |
| 00:35.46 | Iriel | yes, you can find the next C++ frame that way (I suspect it does) |
| 00:35.51 | Atriace | I'll post the code to a sticky |
| 00:35.52 | Iriel | Now, how do you get the RIGHT lua table to return |
| 00:35.53 | MentalPower | Atriace: what errors? |
| 00:35.56 | Legorol | actually, that's a good way to test this theory |
| 00:36.13 | Atriace | "expected } at the end of line" |
| 00:36.16 | Legorol | has anyone actually ever tested if you get the same reference back, or a different one, if you call EnumerateFrames twice with the same argument |
| 00:36.25 | Iriel | We know you get the same reference back |
| 00:36.29 | Xinhuan | sounds like a missing " |
| 00:36.31 | Legorol | I guess it should |
| 00:36.31 | Iriel | otherwise it'd be hopeless |
| 00:36.41 | Legorol | yeah |
| 00:36.41 | Iriel | the question is whether regions can EVER be collected |
| 00:36.50 | Iriel | that's a bit of a harder test |
| 00:36.58 | nevcairiel | I think CowTip is actually creating a assload of regions |
| 00:37.08 | MentalPower | I still think tostring() on the region would to the trick |
| 00:37.10 | nevcairiel | what i read from the code |
| 00:37.15 | Xinhuan | really nevcairiel? |
| 00:37.23 | Xinhuan | why is it doing so |
| 00:37.32 | MentalPower | s/to/do/ |
| 00:37.47 | MentalPower | s/to the/do the/ |
| 00:37.49 | Iriel | MentalPower: that'd be a reasonably good stab at it, yeah |
| 00:37.58 | Iriel | MentalPower: Check teh addresses are the same each time |
| 00:38.07 | Atriace | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/87159 |
| 00:38.11 | Atriace | For @ issue |
| 00:38.19 | MentalPower | bad |
| 00:38.35 | MentalPower | yer missing the [] |
| 00:38.48 | MentalPower | [UnitName("player").."@"..GetRealmName()] = { |
| 00:38.53 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: dunno, BUT, the OnInit created 50 lines, and every :RefixLines call in Text\Text.lua seems to add more lines as well .. now if those regions are not recycled, and it creates new ones every time .. you build up stuff quickly |
| 00:39.17 | Atriace | dude... I totally forgot. |
| 00:39.22 | Atriace | Alright, time for food. |
| 00:39.27 | MentalPower | nevcairiel: that's bad... |
| 00:39.45 | *** join/#wowuidev Vanduror (n=codevisi@home.codevision.nl) |
| 00:39.46 | nevcairiel | it even caches its created lines in a table |
| 00:39.52 | MentalPower | you should always try to re-use frames/regions |
| 00:39.53 | nevcairiel | so they are still references |
| 00:40.03 | MentalPower | so why doesn't it re-use them? |
| 00:40.07 | Legorol | Just a though: |
| 00:40.08 | nevcairiel | no idea |
| 00:40.15 | Iriel | that would completely fit our theories |
| 00:40.20 | Legorol | If you have a complete list of all frames stored as a Lua table, |
| 00:40.27 | Iriel | it constantly creates regions, then causes them to be instantiated, until it breaks |
| 00:40.31 | Legorol | do you even ever need a C-side equivalent of that list? |
| 00:40.45 | Xinhuan | is there some logic error in it that's preventing reuse? |
| 00:40.46 | Iriel | Legorol: depends what you mean |
| 00:40.47 | Legorol | each frame has its [0], so you can access the appropriate C struct |
| 00:41.05 | Legorol | I'm just thinking that to maintain a list of all existing frames, as you said, you don't even need a C structure |
| 00:41.11 | MentalPower | nevcairiel: fix it! :) |
| 00:41.20 | Legorol | all you need is a Lua table |
| 00:41.20 | Iriel | right, you dont WANT a c structure |
| 00:41.29 | Iriel | because lua doesn't manage the GC references from that |
| 00:41.30 | Legorol | EnumerateFrames can just next() it |
| 00:41.39 | Iriel | so you keep a single (internal, hidden) lua table |
| 00:41.46 | Legorol | yeah, i completely get your point now |
| 00:41.53 | nevcairiel | MentalPower: I really cba to dig into the code now to see where it uses what ... but you can always slap ckknight to fix his cow :P |
| 00:42.02 | Iriel | having said all that, it's entirely possible that the frame manager has linked lists all over the frame tree |
| 00:42.04 | ckknight | cow? |
| 00:42.13 | nevcairiel | cowtip |
| 00:42.20 | Iriel | and EnumerateFrames might use that to find the next one, then the internal table to map it to the appropriate table |
| 00:42.41 | Legorol | Iriel: sorry i was slow, but i tend to work by arriving at identical conclusions on my side based on the arguments given, than by taking the conclusions presented for granted :) |
| 00:42.46 | Xinhuan | we're suspecting cowtip to be creating too many regions (fontstrings) |
| 00:43.03 | Xinhuan | and thus cause a Block too Big memory allocatio error on GetRegions() |
| 00:43.08 | Legorol | ok, you lost me there with the last sentence |
| 00:43.12 | Legorol | what internal table? |
| 00:43.16 | Xinhuan | can you check ck? |
| 00:43.18 | Legorol | you don't need an internal table if you have the Lua table |
| 00:43.22 | Iriel | the lua one you just concluded needed to exist |
| 00:43.26 | Iriel | the lua table IS the internal table |
| 00:43.34 | Iriel | internal == not reachable by non blizzard code |
| 00:43.35 | Legorol | right, that's the one EnumerateFrames is traversing |
| 00:43.41 | Iriel | it may be, doesn't have to be. |
| 00:43.50 | Iriel | Depends if frames and regions share one 'lookup' |
| 00:44.16 | nevcairiel | Would be nice to know how region recycling and reuse works |
| 00:44.17 | Legorol | hm, that's a good point |
| 00:44.20 | Iriel | you know, if someone did the test I suggested you'd KNOW if cowtip was creating ridiculous numbers of regions 8-) |
| 00:44.29 | Legorol | you need a similar structure for regions too |
| 00:44.37 | nevcairiel | Does it reuse a fontstring? .. and if yes, does it reuse it if its still referenced in some lua table? |
| 00:44.44 | Legorol | if it shared the same table as frames, you can't traverse it with EnumerateFrames |
| 00:44.46 | Iriel | because it'd get up to the several hundred that GetRegions caps out at |
| 00:44.52 | Legorol | or well can't traverse it with next() in an easy way |
| 00:45.08 | Iriel | there is no region recycling and reuse in the wow ui |
| 00:45.14 | Iriel | you create a region, and it's created |
| 00:45.24 | Iriel | and if you reference it' it gets a lua table assigned, for eternity |
| 00:45.32 | Xinhuan | not necessarily iriel, i draw lines on the world map, one texture per line |
| 00:45.38 | Xinhuan | and i go 800+lines no issues |
| 00:45.47 | Iriel | so? |
| 00:45.49 | Legorol | 800+ lua tables is not a lot |
| 00:45.50 | Xinhuan | of course, i never actually did GetRegions.... |
| 00:45.55 | Xinhuan | maybe i'llt ry |
| 00:45.56 | Iriel | you're not creating 800 of them every OnUpdate or so |
| 00:45.58 | Iriel | are you? |
| 00:45.58 | Legorol | doesn't matter |
| 00:46.02 | Iriel | you stop at 800 |
| 00:46.13 | Iriel | anyway, as lego says, if you use CreateTexture it doesn't matter |
| 00:46.20 | Iriel | that creates the lua table immediately |
| 00:46.23 | Legorol | you already made the lua tables |
| 00:46.25 | Legorol | idd |
| 00:46.27 | nevcairiel | Now GameTooltip, does every AddLine/AddDoubleLine create new regions? or does it re-use old ones? |
| 00:46.29 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 00:46.49 | MentalPower | nevcairiel: it re-uses untill it runs out |
| 00:46.53 | Legorol | yup |
| 00:46.55 | MentalPower | then it creates new ones |
| 00:46.56 | Iriel | nevcairiel: depends where the 'current line' is |
| 00:47.53 | Legorol | ah, that made me remember something: |
| 00:48.00 | nevcairiel | Keeping a lua table reference to one of those regions would probably not cause it to not re-use that one? |
| 00:48.18 | Iriel | it has no idea if you have a reference |
| 00:48.51 | Legorol | GameTooltip C-code had (probably still has) a really ugly hack in that the C-side has to be able to traverse the Lua-side fontstrings of a tooltip |
| 00:49.06 | Legorol | in the old days, when the number of lines was static, |
| 00:49.14 | Iriel | the C code keeps its own list now |
| 00:49.16 | Legorol | i had fun by having a "line 0" in the tooltip, by altering the XML |
| 00:49.20 | Iriel | and allocates new ones as necessary |
| 00:49.34 | Legorol | yeah but here comes the twist: |
| 00:50.10 | Legorol | in the old days, the tooltip code populated the lines corresponding to the Lua objects defined in the XML starting with the one that was named somethingsomething1 |
| 00:50.12 | Legorol | i forget the details |
| 00:50.27 | Legorol | so it was possible to have space above the first line that the engine would fill in, by having a somethingsomething0 in the XML |
| 00:50.51 | Legorol | and when you did SetXX on the tooltip, it'd leave you an empty line at the top |
| 00:51.05 | Legorol | dunno how that changed, but anyway my point is: |
| 00:51.33 | Legorol | i forget what my point is, lol |
| 00:51.34 | Legorol | getting sleepy |
| 00:52.02 | Legorol | nvm me |
| 00:53.06 | Iriel | Anyone know why CowTip_Appearance:SetFont nicely uses a temp array, yet :SetTextures is a hideous abberation and calls GetRegions() again and again and again? |
| 00:53.22 | Iriel | the two loops are within 50 lines of one another |
| 00:53.30 | Xinhuan | ask ckknight ~_~ |
| 00:53.33 | Lopeppeppy | Go to bed, Legorol. *nod* |
| 00:54.00 | Legorol | nevah, i have primal life farming to do |
| 00:54.05 | Legorol | this convo was just more interesting |
| 00:54.20 | ckknight | Iriel: because doing :SetBackdrop causes a huge memory leak in WoW |
| 00:54.30 | Iriel | ckknight: That's not what i'm asking |
| 00:54.37 | ckknight | okay |
| 00:54.37 | Iriel | ckknight: I'm asking why you dont use setTmp in the 2nd loop |
| 00:54.46 | ckknight | probably overlooked it |
| 00:54.51 | Iriel | select(i, tooltip:GetRegions()) is ugly as hell |
| 00:55.05 | ckknight | I think it was a desperate hack |
| 00:55.16 | Iriel | heh |
| 00:55.55 | MentalPower | ckknight: memory leak how? |
| 00:56.13 | MentalPower | cause of the table use? can't you re-use the same table? |
| 00:56.16 | ckknight | MentalPower: :SetBackdrop causes massive amounts of memory usage when done over and over |
| 00:56.21 | ckknight | no, not cause of the table |
| 00:56.25 | ckknight | it's a blizz bug |
| 00:56.28 | ckknight | imho |
| 00:56.37 | MentalPower | first time I've heard of it |
| 00:56.39 | Iriel | interesting |
| 00:56.44 | MentalPower | have you told blizz about it? |
| 00:56.51 | Iriel | Does that create new regions each time by any chance? |
| 00:57.03 | ckknight | Iriel: that's my guess, but it didn't seem like the case |
| 00:57.19 | ckknight | MentalPower: no, seeing as when I tell Blizz about other things, I'm ignored, so I didn't see the point |
| 00:57.59 | Xinhuan | why do you need to setbackdrop() more than once? |
| 00:58.04 | ckknight | Iriel: it only occurred in odd cases where the :SetBackdrop was done very quickly in succession (caused by an addon conflict, I believe) |
| 00:58.13 | ckknight | Xinhuan: because Blizz resets it every time it's shown |
| 00:58.20 | Iriel | ckknight: wierd |
| 01:01.23 | kergoth | is there an event for a cast of a spell that requires a target, before the target is chosen (during the SpellIsTargeting)? |
| 01:05.45 | Xinhuan | huh |
| 01:06.19 | Shirik|AFK | yay |
| 01:06.25 | Shirik | <-- new laptop owner :D |
| 01:08.50 | Lopeppeppy | Huzzha, Shirik! What did you get? |
| 01:09.07 | Shirik | way more than I expected to get |
| 01:09.13 | ckknight | grats, Shirik |
| 01:09.27 | Shirik | 400GB HDD, 4GB ram, Core 2 Duo, 256MB dedicated graphics card |
| 01:09.42 | Shirik | and it was only $1300 |
| 01:09.53 | Lopeppeppy | Ordered through the Dell site? |
| 01:10.04 | Shirik | nope, actually I ended up going to best buy |
| 01:10.10 | Shirik | and it ended up being cheaper there |
| 01:10.20 | Lopeppeppy | Ah, Best Buy! *nod* |
| 01:10.24 | Shirik | the processor is a bit less powerful than the one from dell, but this isn't my desktop I'm not entirely worried about that |
| 01:10.29 | Tasky | i'm having an issue with cowtip |
| 01:10.35 | Lopeppeppy | I tried for a digital camera there yesterday, nothing looked right. All either too big or too small for me. |
| 01:11.13 | Shirik | now to format it and install all my stuff |
| 01:11.17 | Shirik | lul |
| 01:12.55 | Shirik | this is it: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8770582&st=S6843&lp=1&type=product&cp=1&id=1203815723071 |
| 01:13.04 | Shirik | I only paid $1300 though |
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| 01:18.23 | Shirik | wait wtf? |
| 01:18.26 | Shirik | my laptop has two hard drives? |
| 01:18.37 | Shirik | I thought it was 1 400GB, it's 2 200GB in RAID0 o.o |
| 01:18.38 | Shirik | cool |
| 01:19.03 | ckknight | lol |
| 01:19.15 | ckknight | Tasky: what issue? |
| 01:19.15 | Shirik | since when do they put two hard drives in a laptop? |
| 01:21.50 | sacarasc | when did you buy it? because since just before then would be my guess |
| 01:21.58 | Shirik | today >< |
| 01:23.09 | Legorol | Can someone possibly link again the thread where the memory allocation error is discussed in the first place? |
| 01:23.14 | Iriel | Alienware have been doing that for some time |
| 01:23.20 | Iriel | (two drives) |
| 01:25.32 | Legorol | I'm slightly frustrated. I have leveled an alt to 70 to recreate the "epic" feeling of gearing up through heroics. |
| 01:25.33 | Kaso | Shirik, halfing your MTBF is cool ? ;) |
| 01:25.42 | Kaso | halving |
| 01:25.54 | Legorol | I have been collecting L70 blues, struggling in heroics, getting badges, geting excited with the occasional i110 drops from heroic endbosses. |
| 01:26.04 | Legorol | Then i happened to spend 2 hours in Kara and collected a bunch of epics :/ |
| 01:26.33 | Legorol | I now feel dirty. |
| 01:28.02 | sacarasc | mmmm, dirty |
| 01:29.08 | Guillotine | Anybody have a free antivirus/firewall to suggest? |
| 01:29.10 | Shirik | psh Kaso |
| 01:29.53 | Shirik | I've never had a raid array crash on me unless it was my fault |
| 01:30.14 | Shirik | besides it's not really halving it |
| 01:31.27 | Lopeppeppy | Guillotine, have you tried ClamAV for free antivirus? I've had good luck with it. |
| 01:31.34 | Kaso | true, i also have never lost a drive to physical error, but in my mind raid0 is still an unnessary risk |
| 01:32.42 | Guillotine | Lopeppeppy: nope. I'll check it out |
| 01:35.54 | Iriel | Kaso: I agree raid0 without also adding raid1 is asking for trouble |
| 01:36.31 | Shirik | in my mind, the biggest bottleneck is the hard drive |
| 01:36.42 | Shirik | if you have nothing to lose from an unexpected failure, why not raid0 |
| 01:39.02 | Iriel | Well, if you dont care about a failure, then your exposure from the risk is none |
| 01:39.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Ha. I totally just made my two accounts share settings. I'm not sure why I didn't do this earlier |
| 01:39.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Shared auctioneer database is ftw |
| 01:53.48 | Shirik | am I still here? |
| 01:54.00 | zenzelezz | what an existentialist question |
| 01:54.14 | Shirik | my DNS just died :( |
| 01:54.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Good thing DNS doesn't maintain connections |
| 01:54.47 | Shirik | yeah, I was just checking to see if anything else cut out |
| 01:54.56 | Shirik | but I can't get to any sites now -_- |
| 01:55.05 | Drundia | It seems I missed so nice discussion, but that led me to a question (which could as well be answered...), anyone knows what is current overhead of storing taint? |
| 01:55.37 | Guillotine | ~dnslookup www.google.com |
| 01:55.48 | Guillotine | :) |
| 01:55.50 | zenzelezz | taint is bad, m'kay? So don't be bad by doing taint, m'kay? |
| 01:56.56 | Drundia | soz, mon, can't blizzard-sign my addons :( |
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| 01:59.30 | Shirik | ! |
| 01:59.35 | Shirik | wtf kind of connection do my parents have |
| 02:00.03 | Shirik | 1100KB/sec downloads o.o |
| 02:00.05 | Shirik | wtb |
| 02:01.15 | Shirik | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/8a7052d13c9184dbb8a5ee0c0e8c2082.JPG |
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| 02:07.04 | Iriel | Drundia: It's difficult to say, they changed a bunch of things around when 2.0 went live, I think the taint is small enough it was 'invisible' in most places due to word alignment in the code |
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| 02:07.33 | Iriel | Drundia: because 2.0 initially introduced a massive overhead per object, and then relatively quickly it all returned to normal. |
| 02:08.20 | Iriel | Drundia: and as far as I know slouken just tweaked how it was configured and compiled. |
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| 02:12.51 | Drundia | was only code taintable before 2.0? (to prevent addons calling movement functions) |
| 02:13.00 | Iriel | Taint didn't exist before 2.0 |
| 02:13.19 | Iriel | There was the 'hardware event' restriction |
| 02:13.21 | Iriel | that was it |
| 02:13.29 | Drundia | Weird, I'm sure in upcoming 2.0 changes he mentioned that he just upgraded something... |
| 02:13.50 | Iriel | For whatever it's worth, I've been running cowtip for a bit now and it's not gone visibly mad. |
| 02:14.15 | Iriel | is tthere anyone who can reliably reproduce that crash? |
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| 02:14.27 | Iriel | I have a little test addon for someone to run |
| 02:14.27 | Drundia | Well, pre-2.0 doing /script MoveForwardStart() resulted in same as now... since like 1.10 |
| 02:14.50 | Iriel | Yes but /script didn't used to be a hardware event |
| 02:14.57 | Iriel | so it was ignored, in the old world |
| 02:15.24 | Drundia | no, it was already around time everything else worked.... or so I believe... |
| 02:15.27 | Tem|afk | Iriel, sure there was taint before |
| 02:15.30 | Drundia | without hardware event functions silently failed |
| 02:15.32 | Tem|afk | in 1.10ish |
| 02:15.44 | Tem|afk | when they made it so you couldn't hook movement functions |
| 02:16.46 | Iriel | You're right, sorry |
| 02:17.02 | Iriel | 1.10ish introduced taint, 2.0 made almost everything use it |
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| 02:20.16 | Nevins | Does anyone know if it's possible to set up a button in an addon to click a url link? |
| 02:20.35 | Shirik | you mean to open a internet browser? |
| 02:20.48 | Nevins | In essence. |
| 02:20.58 | Lopeppeppy | Nope |
| 02:21.02 | Nevins | Darn. |
| 02:21.11 | Shirik | no external communication, and that means starting other processes |
| 02:21.17 | Lopeppeppy | WoW runs in a closed sandbox by design, it's not possible. Alt-tab or windowed mode. |
| 02:21.35 | Nevins | Yeah I figgured as much but I was blissfully hoping. |
| 02:21.47 | Shirik | prat allows you to click a link and copy it |
| 02:21.53 | Shirik | that's the best you'll get |
| 02:22.18 | Shirik | Anyone know a good program to burn DVDs from ISOs? (Free) |
| 02:22.20 | Nevins | For what I was doing it would need it to call href. |
| 02:22.33 | Nevins | Alc150. |
| 02:22.38 | Nevins | One sec. |
| 02:22.48 | Shirik | thought about it, but that programis so huge >< |
| 02:23.01 | Shirik | was hoping there were an alternative |
| 02:23.13 | Nevins | http://trial.alcohol-soft.com/en/download_120.php |
| 02:23.19 | Nevins | Sorry 120 |
| 02:23.29 | Nevins | Yeah it's pretty much the one I know. |
| 02:24.01 | MentalPower|AFK | Shirik: InfraRecorder |
| 02:24.05 | MentalPower|AFK | open source |
| 02:24.07 | MentalPower|AFK | sourceforge |
| 02:25.02 | Nevins | I don't really use it to much I have ftp acess to a 20tb storage system that pretty much has the internet on it :P (well at least the parts you would want to download e.g. CS3 ect) |
| 02:25.32 | Nevins | Bit torrent blows vs FTP download. |
| 02:26.01 | Nevins | I can't wait till processors are fast enough to handle black hole compression. |
| 02:26.17 | Nevins | Transfer time of files will be like 2 seconds. |
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| 02:27.05 | Drundia | infinity frequency without signal weakening over infinite distances sounds about as good if not better |
| 02:27.16 | Nevins | http://www.iceteks.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2653& |
| 02:27.34 | Nevins | err wrong link |
| 02:33.33 | Shirik | <3 MentalPower|AFK |
| 02:33.50 | Shirik | Nevins: I really don't want to upload a 3GB file :P |
| 02:34.00 | Shirik | even over my network |
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| 03:00.58 | Iriel | So weird running into a warlock with the same named voidwalker as mine |
| 03:07.23 | Lopeppeppy | Reduce, recycle, reuse? |
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| 03:10.33 | ScytheBlade1 | lol that's tricky |
| 03:13.16 | Xinhuan | wait till you run into the warlock on my server that paid $10 to rename himself to the same name as his Felhunter |
| 03:14.08 | Xinhuan | i'm sure you can imagine the implications of that |
| 03:14.22 | Guillotine | haha |
| 03:14.24 | Guillotine | genius |
| 03:15.37 | Lopeppeppy | Love deliberate confusion of combat logs |
| 03:15.42 | [Liq] | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=6286639928&sid=1 |
| 03:15.53 | Xinhuan | not so much confusing the combatlogs |
| 03:15.58 | Xinhuan | more so an arena pvp advantage |
| 03:16.11 | Xinhuan | because arena frames that use /tar can't target the player properly |
| 03:16.30 | Xinhuan | as it targets the closest matching unit (usually the pet meleeing you) |
| 03:18.13 | Lopeppeppy | Random question #6890345: At what time of year do Girl Scouts peddle their evil wares? I seem to remember Feb/March, anyone else? |
| 03:18.53 | [Liq] | !g At what time of year do Girl Scouts peddle their evil wares? |
| 03:18.54 | batbot | [Liq]: Dear Little Dipshit… <http://www.electricvenom.com/education-bites/dear-little-dipshit/> |
| 03:20.03 | Lopeppeppy | close, Liq, but not quite. *grin* |
| 03:21.00 | Iriel | Lopeppeppy: that sounds right, it was within the last 4 months |
| 03:21.45 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, I sorta remember the signups going around work. I'll stick with that, if someone comments on my story to correct me it's not like it's a major story-breaking detail. |
| 03:21.46 | Lopeppeppy | *hug* |
| 03:27.06 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy: It can't have been too long ago |
| 03:27.09 | Shirik | maybe 2 months |
| 03:27.17 | Shirik | my parents sent me some when they got em |
| 03:30.46 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, late winter sounds right, and the picture of icicles is nice too. *nod* |
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| 03:32.35 | Shirik | icicles? |
| 03:32.38 | Shirik | ~weather kdab |
| 03:32.48 | Shirik | oh wow it'sonly 70 |
| 03:34.44 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik-dear, the story takes place in england, I think it's colder there in February. :P |
| 03:36.46 | Shirik | isthere any kind of "camp now" option? |
| 03:36.51 | Shirik | that is, logout without the 20 second delay? |
| 03:37.22 | Kaso | in wow? |
| 03:37.27 | Kaso | alt-f4 ..? |
| 03:38.13 | Shirik | that would shut down |
| 03:38.17 | Shirik | I just want to go to character select |
| 03:38.27 | Kaso | then you wait bitch! |
| 03:38.33 | Kaso | or find a inn/city |
| 03:38.33 | Shirik | :< |
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| 03:50.59 | Nevins | Using the sendchatmessage function http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SendChatMessage |
| 03:51.18 | Nevins | what is the correct syntax for saying hello to the person that just sent you a tell. |
| 03:52.04 | Nevins | I've used the function before but I'm unable to get it to work as a reply. |
| 03:53.07 | Nevins | SendChatMessage("Hello!", "WHISPER", "Common", "????????????"); |
| 03:53.25 | Nevins | Like what is the name for the person that last sent you a tell. |
| 03:53.55 | Drundia | maybe ChatEdit_GetLastTellTarget() |
| 03:55.24 | Drundia | for both faction compatibility i'd use nil as language also instead of "common" |
| 03:55.38 | Nevins | So there is no variable for it you have to do a call function basically. |
| 03:56.48 | Nevins | SendChatMessage("Hello!", "WHISPER", "Common", "ChatEdit_GetLastTellTarget()"); You think that would work or would I have to store it as a secondary variable. |
| 03:57.08 | Nevins | I.E. |
| 03:57.23 | Nevins | SendChatMessage("Hello!", "WHISPER", "Common", "X"); |
| 03:57.31 | Nevins | where x is the output of: |
| 03:57.33 | batrick | ~weather abq |
| 03:57.50 | Shirik | ICAO codes are 4 letters! |
| 03:57.51 | Shirik | ALWAYS |
| 03:57.58 | Shirik | stop using old-school codes! |
| 03:57.58 | Nevins | ChatEdit_GetLastTellTarget() |
| 03:58.00 | Drundia | i say it should be SendChatMessage("Hello!", "WHISPER", nil, ChatEdit_GetLastTellTarget()); |
| 03:58.08 | Shirik | ~weather kacq |
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| 03:58.37 | batrick | ~weather kabq |
| 03:59.04 | batrick | we need rain :( |
| 03:59.11 | batrick | we had rain once this year |
| 03:59.15 | Nevins | Weird functionality for a chat bot. |
| 03:59.17 | Shirik | yuck |
| 03:59.20 | Drundia | isn't enough for you? |
| 04:00.39 | Nevins | Drundia why do you set the language to NIL? |
| 04:01.12 | Nevins | Undefined basically becomes the universal accepted language? |
| 04:01.17 | Drundia | "common" won't work for horde and i believe having it internally determine default language should work best. |
| 04:02.25 | Shirik | nil = the default language for the faction |
| 04:02.37 | Shirik | i.e., common or orcish |
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| 04:15.02 | Nevins | Lol pastebin down? |
| 04:15.48 | Seerah | Nevins: no |
| 04:17.46 | Seerah | alright, call me blonde, but I still can't figure out why this toggle slash command isn't working (first highlight)... I've tried following the example on the AceConfig-3.0 wiki page... I'm also thinking I'm doing my standby check wrong to not execute the rest of my code (second highlight) :( http://wowuidev.pastey.net/87172 |
| 04:18.26 | Seerah | I'm about to pull out all my hair :P :) |
| 04:19.31 | Lopeppeppy | No, do not sacrifice hair to code! |
| 04:19.32 | Nevins | Thats the wowuidev pastey I was talking about pastebin. I found another client: http://rafb.net/p/VAg15671.html |
| 04:20.05 | Nevins | Any idea why that doesn't work when I hit my reply button (note: the button works) |
| 04:20.27 | Nevins | It's something with that specifc peice of code. |
| 04:22.15 | Seerah | (11:19:32 PM) Lopeppeppy: No, do not sacrifice hair to code! <-- I'm gonna do it!!! |
| 04:23.02 | Nevins | Try throwing things. Sure there might be some damage but reckless abandon is good for your health. |
| 04:23.43 | Nevins | Keyboards and mice are good for that. They are bacteria traps anyways. |
| 04:23.59 | Nevins | Just make sure you have spares. |
| 04:24.11 | Lopeppeppy | Noooo, Seerah! |
| 04:24.25 | Seerah | I think I think better when I'm about to give up....... |
| 04:24.34 | Seerah | I had an epiphany |
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| 04:24.57 | Lopeppeppy | Those can be fun. *wink* |
| 04:25.38 | Nevins | So does anyone know why the funtion I pasted doesn't work properly? |
| 04:25.52 | Seerah | They tend to come right before my head explodes. Must be something with the pressure.... Wish they'd come sooner. |
| 04:26.33 | Lopeppeppy | *snarks but doesn't go there* |
| 04:27.08 | Seerah | Nevins: does it work if you do tt = ChatEdit_GetLastTellTarget() then SendChatMessage(msg, "WHISPER", nil, tt) ? |
| 04:27.13 | Nevins | tt? |
| 04:27.24 | Seerah | awful awful peppy ;) |
| 04:27.24 | Nevins | Oh |
| 04:27.32 | Nevins | One second. |
| 04:27.38 | Nevins | I'll try that. |
| 04:27.40 | Seerah | or whatever variable you wish to use |
| 04:27.46 | Lopeppeppy | Sorry Seearah, Sleep Dep Peppy rides again. |
| 04:27.49 | Nevins | Yeah I wasn't paying attention for a sec. |
| 04:29.07 | Seerah | wootness - my toggle toggles now |
| 04:29.40 | Seerah | still don't have an answer to my second dilemma, though |
| 04:29.52 | Nevins | You have gained a level! *obligitory wow text insert* |
| 04:30.16 | Seerah | ding? |
| 04:30.31 | Seerah | oh - me? did I ding? :D |
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| 04:34.37 | Nevins | Okay this what I have now: http://rafb.net/p/srUeGG77.html |
| 04:35.20 | Nevins | I tested it it still doesn't work properly. I'm unsure as to why. |
| 04:35.23 | Drundia | did someone whisper you? what error does it show? |
| 04:35.35 | Drundia | do you have show errors enabled? |
| 04:35.41 | Nevins | Nope. |
| 04:35.46 | Nevins | How do I do that. |
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| 04:36.00 | Nevins | I did have someone wisper me. |
| 04:36.27 | Seerah | in your Interface Options make sure that you don't have errors hidden |
| 04:36.37 | Nevins | Okay.brb |
| 04:36.45 | Drundia | Interface Option -> Game -> Help -> Display Lua Errors |
| 04:38.28 | Drundia | so i did '/w <My Name> a' followed by '/script SendChatMessage("yo", "WHISPER", nil, ChatEdit_GetLastTellTarget());' and it worked for me! |
| 04:38.55 | Drundia | So I'd like to see your error message. |
| 04:39.20 | Nevins | Game is not an interface option. |
| 04:40.23 | Drundia | there might be "Game" and "AddOns" tabs... does "Game" not show if no addons register their options for there? |
| 04:40.28 | Nevins | I have controls, combat,display,quests, social, actionbars,Names ect. |
| 04:40.57 | Drundia | then you just proceed to "Help" |
| 04:42.00 | Nevins | Yeah it's just Interface Options -> help -> disable lua errors |
| 04:42.08 | Nevins | There is no game. |
| 04:43.25 | Seerah | you only get game at the top then if you have an addon that uses the Interface Options panel for their config |
| 04:43.26 | Drundia | "Game" and "AddOns" are tabs on top of it... at least when some addons use that dialog.... so yes, what was your error? |
| 04:43.29 | Nevins | The error I'm getting is missing target player. |
| 04:43.44 | Drundia | then no one whispered you recently |
| 04:43.52 | Nevins | Nope. Someone did. |
| 04:44.05 | Seerah | have you reloaded your UI / relogged since then? |
| 04:44.08 | Drundia | can you reply to them using 'R' or '/r' ? |
| 04:44.12 | Nevins | Yes. |
| 04:44.19 | Drundia | that could be reason |
| 04:44.20 | Seerah | to which of us? :P |
| 04:44.46 | Drundia | whisper to yourself and try again |
| 04:44.46 | Nevins | Yes to drundian and I did relog. |
| 04:44.51 | Nevins | Okay. |
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| 04:45.16 | Nevins | Didn't work when I wispered myself. |
| 04:45.23 | Nevins | Trying the raw script. |
| 04:46.08 | Nevins | The script you gave worked fine. |
| 04:46.16 | Nevins | The function I have did not. |
| 04:46.19 | Drundia | I'm getting confused... |
| 04:46.38 | Nevins | That worked. |
| 04:46.48 | Nevins | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:47.11 | Nevins | http://rafb.net/p/srUeGG77.html did not work |
| 04:47.26 | Nevins | I just made that into a macro. |
| 04:47.55 | Nevins | At least we know the function works properly. |
| 04:48.08 | Drundia | tt = ChatEdit_GetLastTellTarget() would be executed in addon load where whisper list is most likely empty |
| 04:48.36 | Drundia | s/in/during/ |
| 04:48.43 | Drundia | s/where/when/ |
| 04:49.00 | Nevins | What? |
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| 04:49.57 | Nevins | Hmm just going to try something on my own here and see if it works. |
| 04:51.19 | Kyahx | So opinions on gear swapping mods: ItemRack, ClosetGnome, any reason to pick whatever? |
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| 04:53.42 | Drundia | Kyahx, try them all and see which one has most features or so. |
| 04:53.58 | Kyahx | :( I dont want to, I want other opinions! haha |
| 04:55.13 | Seerah | I use ItemRack (the old 1.992 version) but it hasn't seen updates in a long while and Gello hasn't been doing much |
| 04:55.56 | Kyahx | hence why im asking :) I think I'll try out ClosetGnome |
| 04:56.03 | Kyahx | allthou I was hopeing to avoid Ace2 |
| 04:56.22 | dylanm | But it's vhaarr-licious. |
| 04:56.39 | Kyahx | :P |
| 04:57.25 | Kyahx | Ok, new topic then. Clever Areana team name suggestions? haha |
| 04:57.52 | Drundia | "Unknown", "Unnamed", maybe "Name Is Already In Use" |
| 04:58.16 | dylanm | What |
| 04:58.18 | dylanm | is your comp |
| 04:58.44 | Kyahx | my comp? |
| 04:59.17 | dylanm | Team composition |
| 04:59.24 | Kyahx | Lock and Shad-Priest |
| 05:00.25 | Drundia | "Say No To Resilienced DOTs" |
| 05:00.35 | Shirik | too long imo |
| 05:01.09 | Drundia | what was length limit? |
| 05:01.45 | Kyahx | no idea |
| 05:02.00 | Kyahx | like 25-30 chars at best? |
| 05:02.04 | Kyahx | 24* |
| 05:03.47 | Kyahx | nothing :( |
| 05:08.28 | Seerah | AHA! I figured out my second dilemma - I'm dyslexic :P |
| 05:08.50 | Seerah | and I figured out the proper place to ask for my standby variable |
| 05:08.57 | Seerah | ding /dance |
| 05:09.22 | Drundia | grats |
| 05:11.45 | Shirik | not the length limit |
| 05:11.51 | Shirik | just that it's too much to say |
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| 05:46.09 | Atriace | I've got a headpounder |
| 05:46.11 | Atriace | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/87177 |
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| 05:47.08 | Atriace | Any suggestions? |
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| 05:47.38 | Drundia | Settings.Players[unitServer].ZPanel.FooMark |
| 05:47.56 | Drundia | instead of what you have on line 16 |
| 05:48.41 | Atriace | holy cow... how is that possibly working now? |
| 05:49.08 | Atriace | Isn't that the same difference as what I have on line 19? |
| 05:49.37 | Drundia | no, but you can also use Settings["Players"][UnitName("player").."@"..GetRealmName()]["ZPanel"]["FooMark"] |
| 05:49.49 | Drundia | t.key === t['key'] |
| 05:49.57 | Atriace | ah..... hehe |
| 05:53.44 | Drundia | "[Level1] whispers: Hi,are there mate? :)" <= since when do gold sellers start like that? |
| 05:55.52 | Shirik | lol |
| 05:56.04 | Shirik | they're trying to immerse themselves in our culture! |
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| 06:08.19 | cncfanatics | hello all |
| 06:14.23 | Shirik | hi cncfanatics |
| 06:19.20 | art3mis | unca shirik can i have a puppy? |
| 06:20.14 | Shirik | no, Cairenn would eat it |
| 06:20.31 | art3mis | are you calling her fat? |
| 06:20.34 | Cairenn | would not! |
| 06:20.53 | Seerah | rofl |
| 06:20.54 | art3mis | and its not like cairenn comes to my house all the time |
| 06:21.00 | art3mis | just once in a while |
| 06:21.09 | Seerah | night guys :) be nice to eachother :P |
| 06:21.11 | art3mis | she lifts up the frigde so i can sweep |
| 06:21.17 | Seerah | lol |
| 06:21.21 | Cairenn | night Seerah |
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| 06:21.36 | art3mis | or she pirates my roomba |
| 06:21.41 | art3mis | err pilots |
| 06:21.51 | art3mis | cairenn is a Borrower ;P |
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| 06:23.45 | Drundia | It seems Cairenn officially stated that she DOES NOT EAT PUPPIES. I wouldn't eat them either, they are too hairy... |
| 06:24.15 | art3mis | that seems to be a good reason |
| 06:24.27 | art3mis | you avoid italians too huh? |
| 06:24.51 | Drundia | Uhm... yes, I don't eat them. |
| 06:24.52 | batrick | oi |
| 06:25.07 | art3mis | to much hair and trans fat ;P |
| 06:25.23 | art3mis | oy batty |
| 06:26.58 | batrick | hai art3mis |
| 06:30.53 | Shirik | you can shave puppies |
| 06:31.00 | Shirik | or eat the non-hairy part of poodles |
| 06:34.30 | art3mis | Prompted by a group of entertainment giants including Time Warner, Viacom, Fox, Sony, NBC Universal and Disney, police in Sweden recently threatened to block access to P2P service provider The Pirate Bay, whose users account for an estimated 35 to 40 percent of the nation's Internet traffic, and put it on a list of child pornographers, based on claims that have not been divulged to The Pirate Bay or to anyone else. |
| 06:34.42 | art3mis | "This is not worthy a democracy governed by law. The people who have made this decision cannot remain in our judicial system", asserted Rick Falkvinge, leader of Sweden's Piratpartiet political movement. "It also undermines the legitimacy of the child porn filter. This filter is not intended for subjective use by government officials to close down undesirable sites which do not break any laws." |
| 06:34.50 | art3mis | Sweden has a Pirate Party! |
| 06:34.50 | ScytheBlade1 | 02:30 <@Shirik> you can shave puppies |
| 06:34.50 | ScytheBlade1 | 02:31 <@Shirik> or eat the non-hairy part of poodles |
| 06:35.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Those are two awesomes lines to glance over at the screen and read |
| 06:36.35 | batrick | no u |
| 06:38.25 | Guillotine | Quick question for anybody that knows. What is the current range of item ids after 2.4? |
| 06:38.32 | Guillotine | e.g. what is the max id? |
| 06:41.02 | ScytheBlade1 | There are a _lot_ of holes |
| 06:41.13 | art3mis | guill quick question |
| 06:41.20 | art3mis | did yuo go see iron man yet? |
| 06:41.29 | art3mis | ~ironman |
| 06:41.30 | purl | from memory, ironman is the best Marvel-based comic book movie since the original Spiderman, and will make you like Robert Downey Jr. If that makes you uncomfortable, you probably shouldn't see it. Otherwise, it's _AWESOME_ |
| 06:41.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Guillotine: http://files.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/wow-items.tar.bz2 |
| 06:41.40 | Guillotine | art3mis: no |
| 06:41.43 | ScytheBlade1 | I pulled that down shortly after 2.4 iirc |
| 06:41.45 | art3mis | go tomorrow |
| 06:41.53 | Guillotine | Scythe: I know :) I'm just wondering about the highest |
| 06:42.05 | Guillotine | its around 35k iirc, right? |
| 06:42.13 | ScytheBlade1 | wMore |
| 06:42.17 | ScytheBlade1 | *More |
| 06:42.17 | Guillotine | art3mis: I wish I could :( Probably won't be able to go for another week and a half. Have a lot to do |
| 06:42.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Grab that, sort by size, look at the largest "this has XML that contains nothing" value |
| 06:42.48 | Guillotine | Don't feel like doing that much work :P |
| 06:42.56 | ScytheBlade1 | It's just an archive :P |
| 06:43.02 | art3mis | Guillotine: mantinee tomorrow! |
| 06:43.05 | art3mis | matinee |
| 06:43.07 | ScytheBlade1 | I don't have it extracted or I'd tell you myself |
| 06:43.14 | art3mis | not manatee |
| 06:43.19 | ScytheBlade1 | (You can't extract it on ext3, btw) |
| 06:43.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Err no you can |
| 06:43.42 | ScytheBlade1 | But you have a 5-10 second directory access time for every directory or file access |
| 06:47.38 | Drundia | my GetItemIcon scan gave me result of 30239 items numbered 17-36737, 750 holes |
| 06:52.57 | Guillotine | Drundia: awesome, thanks :) I'll just scan up to 50k then |
| 06:53.27 | cncfanatics | ScytheBlade1: reiserfs ftw |
| 06:54.10 | ScytheBlade1 | cncfanatics: srs. my server is ext3, my desktop is reiserfs. Total win. |
| 06:54.17 | Drundia | i did +-100 million scan, not all representable range, but pretty solid :) |
| 06:54.29 | cncfanatics | how did you get your hands on that ? |
| 06:55.06 | ScytheBlade1 | bash, wget with a user agent, the armory, several loops ran in parallel, and a high bandwidth (100mbit+) connection |
| 06:55.48 | cncfanatics | <3 |
| 06:55.52 | ScytheBlade1 | <3 |
| 06:55.56 | Drundia | GetItemIcon() returns data from client item DB (not item cache) |
| 06:56.21 | Drundia | sounds almost 100% reliable... |
| 06:56.26 | cncfanatics | lets see if reiserfs is as fast as it says it is with a lot of files |
| 06:57.20 | ScytheBlade1 | It still takes a second or two. Then the cache gets going and all things told it flys |
| 06:57.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Compare it against ext3 |
| 06:57.47 | cncfanatics | trying to browse the folder with nautilus |
| 06:57.52 | cncfanatics | its SLOW |
| 06:57.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Ha |
| 06:57.56 | cncfanatics | folder still loading |
| 06:57.59 | ScytheBlade1 | A GUI browser |
| 06:58.00 | ScytheBlade1 | hahahahaha |
| 06:58.02 | ScytheBlade1 | GOOD LUCK |
| 06:58.06 | cncfanatics | just wanne try it out :p |
| 06:58.15 | ScytheBlade1 | CLI or you'll be driven insane |
| 06:58.15 | cncfanatics | ok, bye bye nautilu |
| 06:58.21 | cncfanatics | command line :p |
| 06:58.29 | cncfanatics | 2 sec |
| 06:58.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 06:58.35 | cncfanatics | printing taking more time then lookup |
| 06:58.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 06:58.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Now compare it to ext2 |
| 06:58.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Or 3 even |
| 06:58.51 | Shirik | anyone have an idea where I can download the stage 1 tarballs for gentoo these days? |
| 06:58.55 | Shirik | all I can find is the live cd |
| 06:59.11 | cncfanatics | why are some xml files empty ? |
| 06:59.29 | ScytheBlade1 | dd if=/dev/zero of=ext3 bs=100M count=1; mkfs.ext3 -f ext3; mkdir test; mount -o loop ext3 ./test |
| 06:59.31 | Drundia | because no item with that id known to armory |
| 06:59.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Because the armory didn't cooperate, if the item isn't seen on a live server it won't appear |
| 06:59.54 | cncfanatics | ah hehe |
| 07:01.44 | cncfanatics | sigh, studying bio sucks |
| 07:04.05 | cncfanatics | ScytheBlade1: do you have any idea what'll happen to reiser4 ? |
| 07:04.58 | ScytheBlade1 | cncfanatics: seeing as Mr. lolJailTime was the project lead, but /not/ the entire project |
| 07:05.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Also seeing as his ego is now out of the way, and the rest of the team and work with the kernel maintainers |
| 07:05.21 | ScytheBlade1 | I can totally see it getting accepted into mailine eventually |
| 07:05.40 | ScytheBlade1 | It's currently in -mm |
| 07:06.16 | ScytheBlade1 | I don't either |
| 07:06.21 | ScytheBlade1 | But just the same |
| 07:06.26 | cncfanatics | I don't feel like reformatting all my filesystems either |
| 07:06.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Ha, same |
| 07:07.07 | Shirik | what's wrong with ext3 anyway? |
| 07:07.07 | cncfanatics | WTB convertfs |
| 07:07.17 | cncfanatics | unzip that items zip |
| 07:07.22 | cncfanatics | and try browsing it in ext3 |
| 07:07.33 | Shirik | not on a linux computer... yet |
| 07:07.40 | Shirik | installing one thing at a time, and windows always comes first :) |
| 07:07.56 | art3mis | it has to |
| 07:07.56 | cncfanatics | ofc, it fucks up grub if you install it after:p |
| 07:07.57 | Shirik | mostly because it refuses to cooperate on a computer that already has linux |
| 07:08.17 | art3mis | shirik get the leopard hackintosh install too! |
| 07:08.19 | Shirik | almost done though |
| 07:08.25 | art3mis | its fun having it on pc hardware |
| 07:08.25 | Shirik | just waiting for wow to finish installing |
| 07:08.38 | art3mis | specially laptops |
| 07:08.38 | cncfanatics | Shirik: if you use ext3 on ur linux, untar the archive posted earlyer |
| 07:08.45 | cncfanatics | and browse the target folder |
| 07:08.47 | Shirik | I intended to |
| 07:08.49 | Shirik | that's why I'm asking |
| 07:08.50 | cncfanatics | U'll have a laugh :p |
| 07:08.57 | cncfanatics | 10-15 sec lookups |
| 07:09.02 | cncfanatics | compared to the 2sec of reiserfs |
| 07:09.22 | cncfanatics | (I just tried on my / which is ext3 for safety reasons) |
| 07:09.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Told you |
| 07:09.48 | cncfanatics | its funny to see :p |
| 07:10.01 | cncfanatics | I don't understand why reiserfs ain't more widely adopted btw |
| 07:10.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Same |
| 07:11.24 | Shirik | <3 fdisk |
| 07:11.30 | Shirik | "Command (m for help):" |
| 07:11.34 | Shirik | where the hell did they get "m"? |
| 07:11.35 | cncfanatics | m ? :o |
| 07:11.47 | cncfanatics | its the m from MS SUCKS DICKS |
| 07:12.21 | art3mis | m for menu ;P |
| 07:12.35 | art3mis | and murder! |
| 07:12.57 | cncfanatics | murder gill bates ! |
| 07:21.10 | art3mis | During an argument with one of the deputies, the woman picked up the family's 20-pound dog and threw it at the deputy, who caught it, the report said. |
| 07:21.39 | Iriel | was that a reiserfs/murder joke |
| 07:21.42 | Iriel | or just an accident? |
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| 07:33.41 | Shirik | apparently it hates me enough that my live cd is not bootable >.> |
| 07:33.45 | Shirik | I'll do this tomorrow, night :) |
| 07:38.05 | Drundia | Hmmm, my recent tests indicate that spells with cast time under GCD may have actual GCD lower than intended if chained after spells with cast time above GCD. |
| 07:40.25 | cncfanatics | did you account for lag ? |
| 07:40.51 | Drundia | yes |
| 07:41.22 | Drundia | Either something is wrong server-side or something is wrong server-side even more... |
| 07:42.00 | cncfanatics | can you link the results ? |
| 07:42.12 | cncfanatics | sounds intresting (more intresting then the genetics I'm studying at least) |
| 07:45.29 | Drundia | Cast requests are stored in some buffer for some half second or so if you are already casting. Both client and server apparently start it right there even though it doesn't start casting immediately. Observed lower bound was 0.9 sec at 1.5 sec intended. |
| 07:46.20 | cncfanatics | sexy increase for casters |
| 07:46.32 | cncfanatics | for what spells would that apply ? there aren't that much with cast time under 1.5 |
| 07:46.41 | Drundia | instants |
| 07:46.50 | Drundia | chained after >1.5 ones |
| 07:46.54 | cncfanatics | intresting |
| 07:47.04 | cncfanatics | fireball - fireblast would be easely testable I supose |
| 07:47.07 | cncfanatics | or fireball - icelance |
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| 07:56.18 | cncfanatics | can trinkets be put in a /castsequence ? |
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| 07:59.29 | Drundia | Short test: 5*2.247 + 4*1.465*4 = 17.095. Observer result was 16.513 with one messed up point (0.275 lost). Excluding messed up point it's 5.571 instead of 5.959 (0.388 saved with only 1 instant) and 9.356 instead 9.671 (not so perfect, but i mess up more in longer sequences) |
| 08:01.06 | Drundia | cnc, I believe so, because /cast and /use are defined in the same way |
| 08:01.17 | cncfanatics | any examples ? |
| 08:02.17 | Xinhuan | spellhaste? |
| 08:02.32 | Drundia | yes, but it's accounted there |
| 08:02.46 | Xinhuan | so how much time did you gain? |
| 08:02.52 | Xinhuan | 0.3 or so? |
| 08:02.54 | Drundia | was done with some basic amount of 37, and is accounted as 1.465 gcd |
| 08:03.20 | Xinhuan | are you suspecting the GCDs are overlapping somehow |
| 08:03.32 | Drundia | yes |
| 08:03.57 | Drundia | I believe server starts timing when it receives cast request rather than starts casting |
| 08:04.15 | Xinhuan | so spamming the button helps? |
| 08:04.20 | Drundia | Not really |
| 08:04.26 | Drundia | Pressing it at proper time |
| 08:05.11 | cncfanatics | which would be about 0.4 sec before ur last cast ends |
| 08:05.17 | Drundia | Yes |
| 08:05.35 | cncfanatics | would this also work for instant + instant ? |
| 08:05.41 | Drundia | not really |
| 08:05.42 | cncfanatics | guess not ? as gcd is in effect |
| 08:05.51 | Drundia | client makes up gcd there |
| 08:05.55 | cncfanatics | ya |
| 08:05.59 | cncfanatics | too bad, as I'm a rogue :p |
| 08:06.09 | Drundia | but you are also more like energy-limited |
| 08:06.42 | Drundia | in fact you can't perfectly chain spells that have cast time of gcd or lower, realistic loss is around 0.05 sec per spell |
| 08:07.17 | cncfanatics | some fights aren't energy limited |
| 08:07.23 | cncfanatics | think bwl second boss :p |
| 08:07.25 | cncfanatics | good old times |
| 08:08.13 | Drundia | hehe |
| 08:08.25 | cncfanatics | vaelstraez :p |
| 08:10.10 | cncfanatics | whats faster ? |
| 08:10.18 | cncfanatics | _, arg = function(); |
| 08:10.24 | cncfanatics | or arg = select(2, function()); |
| 08:12.19 | Drundia | lua> local a=os.clock() function func() return 1,2; end; for i=1,1000000 do local _,arg=func(); end; print(os.clock()-a) |
| 08:12.20 | lua_bot | Drundia: 0.35 |
| 08:12.41 | Drundia | lua> local a=os.clock() function func() return 1,2; end; for i=1,1000000 do local arg=select(2,func()); end; print(os.clock()-a) |
| 08:12.42 | lua_bot | Drundia: 0.6 |
| 08:13.14 | Drundia | hmm, let's try more for better accuracy |
| 08:13.28 | Drundia | lua> function func() return 1,2; end; local a=os.clock(); for i=1,2000000 do local _,arg=func(); end; print(os.clock()-a) |
| 08:13.29 | lua_bot | Drundia: 0.7 |
| 08:13.52 | Drundia | lua> function func() return 1,2; end; local a=os.clock(); for i=1,2000000 do local arg=select(2,func()); end; print(os.clock()-a) |
| 08:13.53 | lua_bot | Drundia: 1.21 |
| 08:13.58 | cncfanatics | ok, pretty obvious |
| 08:14.08 | cncfanatics | though 0.5ms on 2000000 calls is nothing :p |
| 08:14.18 | cncfanatics | I'll go for the prettyer one (select) |
| 08:14.29 | cncfanatics | <3 Drundia |
| 08:18.41 | Drundia | os.clock was in seconds i believe |
| 08:19.17 | Drundia | not in millis |
| 08:19.31 | Xinhuan | that's os.time? |
| 08:20.30 | Drundia | !api os.clock |
| 08:20.30 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'os.clock' can be found at http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-os.clock |
| 08:21.07 | Drundia | can we query text from some bot? |
| 08:21.07 | Drundia | os.clock () |
| 08:21.08 | Drundia | Returns an approximation of the amount in seconds of CPU time used by the program. |
| 08:21.59 | Drundia | How are these bots protected from infinite loops? It could have some extra overhead in testing too. |
| 08:22.12 | cncfanatics | they have a time limit |
| 08:22.18 | cncfanatics | lua> while true do end; |
| 08:22.23 | lua_bot | cncfanatics: Your code exceeded set CPU limits |
| 08:22.48 | Drundia | I just wonder how it is implemented. |
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| 08:31.55 | batrick | the bots used to use hooks, until long C calls were being used against them :) |
| 08:32.08 | batrick | now they use threads or child processes |
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| 08:51.26 | batrick | clad|away: ping |
| 08:51.30 | clad|away | pong |
| 08:51.38 | batrick | i found a way to execute code on lua_bot |
| 08:51.46 | batrick | same unpack bug, go patch it! |
| 08:51.50 | clad|away | .. i did. |
| 08:51.52 | clad|away | with.. your patch. |
| 08:51.57 | clad|away | llllllso. |
| 08:52.03 | batrick | ... |
| 08:52.27 | clad|away | oh |
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| 08:52.42 | clad|away | that's lua_bot |
| 08:52.44 | clad|away | dont care too much about that |
| 08:52.46 | clad|away | but fine. |
| 08:52.48 | clad|away | i thought you said weblua |
| 08:52.53 | clad|away | how annoying |
| 08:52.56 | clad|away | i hate you for finding this bug |
| 08:52.57 | clad|away | srsly. |
| 08:53.00 | batrick | lmao |
| 08:53.01 | clad|away | its annoying |
| 08:53.01 | batrick | =) |
| 08:53.06 | cncfanatics | what bug ? :o |
| 08:54.07 | batrick | !g lua bugs |
| 08:54.08 | batbot | batrick: Aaron Margosis' "Non-Admin" WebLog : What is a "LUA Bug"? (And ... <http://blogs.msdn.com/aaron_margosis/archive/2006/02/06/525455.aspx> |
| 08:54.11 | batrick | wtf |
| 08:54.16 | batrick | !g lua bugs site:lua.org |
| 08:54.16 | batbot | batrick: Lua: bugs <http://www.lua.org/bugs.html> |
| 08:55.05 | batrick | it's the coolest bug don't lie clad |
| 08:55.12 | clad|away | no |
| 08:55.15 | clad|away | its terrible. |
| 08:55.15 | batrick | having the entire stack available to you is sexy |
| 08:55.21 | clad|away | except not. |
| 08:55.26 | batrick | no u |
| 08:58.08 | batrick | oi shirik |
| 08:58.29 | batrick | damn he went to bed |
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| 08:59.14 | batrick | lua> local t = unpack({}, 2^31-1, 2^31+35) for k in pairs(t) do print(k) end |
| 08:59.21 | lua_bot | batrick: luabot:1: bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got nil) |
| 08:59.22 | batrick | O.o |
| 09:00.14 | Xinhuan | heh |
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| 09:00.35 | Drundia | {} around unpack() |
| 09:00.41 | clad|away | ... |
| 09:00.43 | clad|away | dot dot dot |
| 09:00.50 | batrick | lmao |
| 09:01.03 | batrick | actually, clad isn't lua_bot on a 64 bit machine? |
| 09:01.07 | clad|away | yes |
| 09:01.09 | clad|away | why |
| 09:01.14 | clad|away | if there'a another bug |
| 09:01.17 | clad|away | i will find someone to stab you |
| 09:01.24 | batrick | perhaps regular "ints" are just 32 bit on your machine then? |
| 09:01.29 | clad|away | i dont know |
| 09:01.43 | batrick | i was wondering why that worked |
| 09:01.57 | batrick | because i should have had to use 2^63 |
| 09:03.09 | batrick | ya I think that's the case |
| 09:03.26 | batrick | lua> ("0x%x"):format(2^63) |
| 09:03.26 | lua_bot | batrick: 0x8000000000000000 |
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| 09:36.25 | haste | it's because you don't use a computer when you study |
| 09:37.30 | cncfanatics | hmmm, maybe |
| 09:42.31 | haste | tip is to go outside and study, go go park! |
| 09:43.02 | cncfanatics | I just find studying boring -.- |
| 09:43.08 | cncfanatics | except when its about stuff that intrests me |
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| 09:48.21 | cncfanatics | damn, why didn't blizz expose the debug table in WoW |
| 09:48.24 | cncfanatics | or at least a part of it |
| 09:50.23 | batrick | because you could break wow :) |
| 09:50.32 | batrick | and they did, they gave us debug.traceback =) |
| 09:50.41 | batrick | and probably one other function |
| 09:51.29 | batrick | nope that's it |
| 09:52.06 | cncfanatics | I'd love the sethook from debug |
| 09:52.08 | cncfanatics | damn imba |
| 09:52.18 | batrick | man |
| 09:52.32 | batrick | all the time Interface Customization Portal on wowwiki keeps getting smaller |
| 09:52.39 | batrick | won't be long before we'll have to bookmark a link to it |
| 09:52.41 | clad|away | so don't use it |
| 09:52.51 | batrick | ? |
| 09:52.57 | clad|away | http://wowprogramming.com/docs |
| 09:53.04 | clad|away | who needs wowwiki and their outdated documentation |
| 09:53.11 | batrick | lol |
| 09:53.19 | clad|away | ... i'm not kidding? |
| 09:53.22 | cncfanatics | <3 clad|away |
| 09:53.29 | batrick | I didn't say you were! |
| 09:53.43 | clad|away | just didn't think it was a lol-able statement, is all :P |
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| 09:54.07 | cncfanatics | every statement is lol-able tbh |
| 09:54.24 | clad|away | heh |
| 09:54.40 | batrick | only thing I wouldn't like about the online listing is that you can't contribute/update it |
| 09:54.47 | batrick | your online* |
| 09:54.48 | clad|away | ... |
| 09:54.51 | clad|away | how is that? |
| 09:54.56 | clad|away | click the "edit" button |
| 09:55.03 | clad|away | so |
| 09:55.04 | clad|away | :P |
| 09:55.05 | batrick | I don't see it |
| 09:55.07 | clad|away | log in |
| 09:55.10 | clad|away | tardbeans |
| 09:55.12 | batrick | o, f that :P |
| 09:55.27 | cncfanatics | someone fails |
| 09:55.30 | batrick | I didn't know it was wiki-like |
| 09:55.33 | batrick | qq |
| 09:55.34 | clad|away | well |
| 09:55.35 | clad|away | it is :P |
| 09:56.09 | cncfanatics | clad|away: http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widget_hierarchy is kind of empty |
| 09:56.14 | clad|away | yes |
| 09:56.19 | clad|away | there are a few pages i'm still in the process of generating |
| 09:56.31 | clad|away | just need to get time to write the code for it |
| 09:56.50 | Drundia | or someone could just update wowwiki |
| 09:56.57 | clad|away | yeah, no |
| 09:56.58 | clad|away | sorry |
| 09:57.01 | cncfanatics | wowwiki is hell slow |
| 09:57.14 | Drundia | is it? :O |
| 09:57.19 | clad|away | yes, actually |
| 09:57.22 | batrick | I wasn't complaining about wowwiki being out of date, just that the interface portal is being tucked away into no-mans land |
| 09:57.22 | clad|away | but that's not my major complaint |
| 09:57.23 | clad|away | :P |
| 09:57.28 | Drundia | then you can try to memorize everything! |
| 09:57.31 | clad|away | batrick: i'm complaining about both |
| 09:57.38 | clad|away | thats why we decided to go with this site |
| 09:57.42 | cncfanatics | <3 LOVE http://wowprogramming.com/docs/secure_template/SecureActionButtonTemplate |
| 09:57.45 | clad|away | we deserve something thats docused just for us. |
| 09:57.56 | Drundia | hehehe |
| 09:58.02 | clad|away | focused |
| 09:58.08 | clad|away | and isn't under the strong arm of wikia |
| 09:58.33 | Drundia | frame script handlers with their closures would be handy, there isn't even placeholder for it yet |
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| 09:58.52 | clad|away | that's because they don't belong on their own page |
| 09:59.00 | clad|away | they will be on the overview pages for each of the frame types |
| 09:59.07 | clad|away | i.e. http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widget/Frame |
| 09:59.14 | clad|away | but those pages are not generated yet. |
| 09:59.23 | Drundia | and a bit of sorting too ;) |
| 09:59.24 | clad|away | again, we're about a week behind trying to get this up |
| 09:59.27 | clad|away | but its already better |
| 09:59.30 | clad|away | Drundia: sorting? |
| 09:59.33 | cncfanatics | need any help clad|away ? |
| 09:59.35 | clad|away | sort what? |
| 09:59.48 | Drundia | in http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widget |
| 09:59.52 | clad|away | cncfanatics: just contribute if you see somethign that can be fleshed out. |
| 09:59.59 | Drundia | stuff is like completely asorted |
| 10:00.03 | clad|away | Drundia: yeah, lol |
| 10:00.08 | clad|away | that's my work in progress |
| 10:00.11 | clad|away | that page |
| 10:00.14 | clad|away | working down them one by one |
| 10:00.18 | clad|away | in short, it'll be sorted by the end of the day |
| 10:00.20 | cncfanatics | got a search function ? |
| 10:00.34 | clad|away | not at the moment, don't want to open it to google yet |
| 10:00.39 | clad|away | but there's nothing really hidden |
| 10:00.46 | clad|away | anythign you're looking for in particular? |
| 10:00.50 | batrick | complaining about something missing on a wiki is like complaining about being to lazy to add it yourself :P |
| 10:01.05 | cncfanatics | well, a google free javascript driven api search function would be nice |
| 10:01.10 | cncfanatics | the autocomplete kind of search |
| 10:01.13 | clad|away | well your'e not going to get it |
| 10:01.18 | clad|away | you'll get google |
| 10:01.20 | nevcairiel | well if you were looking for it, you probably dont know the answer batrick :) |
| 10:01.33 | cncfanatics | awww :( |
| 10:01.48 | batrick | meh :) |
| 10:02.03 | clad|away | cncfanatics: no search algorithm i come up with will be as good as google's |
| 10:02.13 | clad|away | especially considering hte lack of lua bindings for search systems |
| 10:02.36 | cncfanatics | true |
| 10:02.38 | batrick | just use google search lol |
| 10:02.50 | clad|away | ... |
| 10:02.52 | clad|away | read the conversation |
| 10:02.52 | clad|away | nub |
| 10:02.58 | batrick | i r lazy |
| 10:03.05 | cncfanatics | does the default UI ever highlight buttons except for when they contain an equipped item ? |
| 10:03.06 | nevcairiel | google search on websites is generally ftl :( |
| 10:03.07 | clad|away | then dont speak |
| 10:03.13 | Drundia | that all reminds me.... please make a post in appropriate place in US forums that they move SetPortraitTexture and SetPortraitToTexture into Texture object metatable |
| 10:03.23 | clad|away | :P |
| 10:03.31 | Drundia | since they really belong there |
| 10:04.17 | clad|away | heh |
| 10:04.46 | widgertick | O_o |
| 10:04.57 | cncfanatics | o_O ? |
| 10:05.01 | widgertick | ._. |
| 10:05.07 | batrick | o-o |
| 10:05.08 | nevcairiel | <.< |
| 10:05.14 | widgertick | >_< |
| 10:05.19 | cncfanatics | _-_ |
| 10:05.33 | widgertick | x_x |
| 10:05.46 | Drundia | ~_~ |
| 10:05.47 | purl | :/ |
| 10:05.54 | batrick | lul |
| 10:06.03 | cncfanatics | now this is useful ! :p |
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| 10:59.39 | Adys | lol at ms withdrawing offer |
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| 10:59.57 | zenzelezz | "Fine! Be that way! We didn't want you anyway..." |
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| 11:05.11 | foxlit | Is bag data supposed to be available at PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD? |
| 11:05.17 | Adys | zenzelezz, exactly |
| 11:05.32 | zenzelezz | anyone ever used the DeviantArt forums? |
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| 12:16.06 | Fisker- | reported for exploitation |
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| 12:54.10 | cncfanatics | any ui artists around ? :o |
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| 13:26.22 | art3mis | cnc: that would depend on what you need ;P |
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| 14:18.09 | mikma | so, anyone knows can i use blizzards functions with SetAttribute? plan is to create a button that has rightclick = DestroyTotem(value) |
| 14:21.01 | mikma | http://www.worldofwar.net/forums/showthread.php?t=381483 |
| 14:21.06 | mikma | apparently this ^^ |
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| 14:38.15 | Shirik | downloading 2.0 patch ftl |
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| 14:46.24 | Shirik | "Items that give +Stamina/Intellect from random suffixes will now properly apply while dead" <- wtf is that? |
| 14:46.56 | Fisker- | i'm guessing that it would ress you at less than 50% hp |
| 14:47.01 | Fisker- | as the bonuses didn't count |
| 14:47.03 | Shirik | ah maybe |
| 14:48.53 | zenzelezz | FFS, trampolines should be outlawed, at least within 100 meters of any residential area |
| 14:49.24 | zenzelezz | either that or it should be allowed to fire air guns at the kids using them |
| 14:54.39 | Shirik | lol |
| 14:54.43 | Shirik | why? |
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| 14:55.50 | cncfanatics | yo all |
| 14:55.52 | zenzelezz | SQUEAK SQUEAK SQUEAK SQUEAK SQUEAK SQUEAK SQUEAK SQUEAK SQUEAK SQUEAK SQUEAK SQUEAK SQUEAK SQUEAK SQUEAK |
| 14:55.54 | zenzelezz | that's why |
| 14:56.08 | cncfanatics | :o |
| 14:56.10 | zenzelezz | it's freaking air pollution |
| 14:56.31 | zenzelezz | or is it called noise pollution |
| 14:56.40 | zenzelezz | at any rate there are laws for such things |
| 15:14.09 | Industrial | Anyone know of standup comedy torrents/streams(not random youtube.. i want a lot! :P) |
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| 15:50.01 | Shirik | zenzelezz: Is it really that loud? |
| 15:50.07 | Shirik | never had one so |
| 15:50.56 | zenzelezz | trust me, it is |
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| 16:08.01 | cncfanatics | ~fail StringCchLength |
| 16:08.02 | purl | StringCchLength, you Fail! |
| 16:09.14 | zenzelezz | interestingly enough it's a break in my logic it seems... using FAILED is not good correct, SUCCEEDED works... doesn't make sense to me, but whatever |
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| 16:19.51 | Cide | "using FAILED is not good correct, SUCCEEDED works." -- WHAT? |
| 16:21.00 | Lopeppeppy | That sounds like you're reading me the directions to use toothpicks, dear. |
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| 16:22.34 | zenzelezz | Cide: yeah, I was modifying the sentence all over and it turned out worse than my coding error |
| 16:22.52 | zenzelezz | which isn't uncommon |
| 16:23.37 | Lopeppeppy | That sentence is epic fun, zenzelezz. :) |
| 16:23.53 | zenzelezz | nah... that's nothing. You should see the *really* bad ones I make |
| 16:24.29 | zenzelezz | basically the quality of my sentences deteriorates rapidly the quicker I try to type them or the more frustrated I am |
| 16:24.42 | |Jelly| | I hate priest life. |
| 16:24.48 | cncfanatics | zenzelezz: that applies for everyone |
| 16:25.15 | |Jelly| | The entire time I'm leveling and a good portion of my time shadow at 70 was spent responding "No, I'm shadow." and getting ignored; now it's "Are you shadow?" "No, I'm actually a healer now." ... and getting ignored. |
| 16:25.33 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 16:26.17 | cncfanatics | <3 |
| 16:28.21 | Lopeppeppy | Are you resto? No? Ignored. Are you a bear? No? Ignored. Are you a cat? Yes. Ignored. |
| 16:28.39 | |Jelly| | I <3 mah bear. |
| 16:28.45 | |Jelly| | He's only 35 atm though. |
| 16:30.00 | |Jelly| | I don't know if I'm just a masochist but I have 2 70 healing priests ... and I'm leveling two tanks. Hmm. /facedesk. |
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| 16:30.40 | Lukian | holy crap.. |
| 16:30.53 | Lukian | I haven't logged my disenchanter for a week and you should see what my alts have sent it! |
| 16:31.04 | |Jelly| | roflamo |
| 16:34.00 | Lukian | http://xs227.xs.to/xs227/08180/wowscrnshot_050508_023347164.jpg |
| 16:34.03 | Lukian | that's only half of it |
| 16:34.36 | cncfanatics | am I the only one to think that the AceGUI-3.0 API is messy ? |
| 16:36.19 | ckknight | cncfanatics: I'm not fond of it |
| 16:37.28 | cncfanatics | any alternatives that can do everything it does ? |
| 16:37.48 | ckknight | I typically just roll my own |
| 16:38.12 | clad|shower | well if you're generating a config window, you don't need the API |
| 16:38.18 | clad|shower | otherwise, i'd just maek my own, as ckknight said |
| 16:38.54 | ckknight | I was gonna say, you're not showering |
| 16:38.57 | ckknight | ...hope not |
| 16:39.05 | cladhaire | plastic bag |
| 16:39.07 | cladhaire | imo |
| 16:39.24 | cncfanatics | well, it provides a lot of stuff I need |
| 16:39.34 | cncfanatics | flexbar's config window ain't going to be very simple |
| 16:40.20 | ckknight | cladhaire: hehe |
| 16:43.12 | foxlit | Possibly misguided complaint: Ace configs do not follow the configuration paradigm |
| 16:43.27 | foxlit | changes are applied immediately, not cancelled properly, and defaults generally do nothing :( |
| 16:43.28 | ckknight | which paradigm? |
| 16:43.31 | cladhaire | "the configuration paradigm" |
| 16:44.13 | Drundia | i believe all changes are applied immediately, paradigm is that they are reverted on cancel and can be defaulted |
| 16:45.07 | Drundia | though i could mix it with bindings.... |
| 16:46.42 | dylanm | Don't most of the WoW ones apply immediately as well? |
| 16:46.51 | dylanm | Cancel and defaults should probably work though. |
| 16:49.41 | foxlit | Hrm, you're actually correct - changes eem to be applied immediately |
| 16:51.18 | Nevins | Whats the proper syntax for a guild disband .guild disband %T; .guild %T disband; .guild "guildname" disband; .guild disband "guildname" all don't seem to work. |
| 16:51.39 | cladhaire | ? |
| 16:51.45 | cncfanatics | huh Nevins ? :o |
| 16:51.49 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:51.50 | cladhaire | are you asking how to disband a guild? |
| 16:51.50 | Kaso | it doesnt have any arguments..? |
| 16:51.52 | cladhaire | if tho, /gdisband |
| 16:52.22 | Nevins | The gm of the guild is trying that. It's not working for him. I need the gm command to do so for him. |
| 16:52.48 | Kaso | oh.... |
| 16:52.52 | Kaso | this is fun |
| 16:52.53 | Nevins | .guild disband by itself doesn't appear to work. |
| 16:53.03 | cladhaire | the command |
| 16:53.04 | cladhaire | is /gdisband |
| 16:53.07 | cladhaire | not .guild disbane |
| 16:53.15 | cladhaire | just /gdisband |
| 16:53.28 | Nevins | Cladhair /gdisband is not a gm command. |
| 16:53.36 | cncfanatics | you're on a private server |
| 16:53.42 | cncfanatics | go figure it on your private server docs tbh :p |
| 16:53.54 | dylanm | Wait, what |
| 16:53.54 | Nevins | Oh crap I thought I was in the ascent channel. |
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| 16:54.00 | cladhaire | GlobalStrings.lua:SLASH_GUILD_DISBAND1 = "/gdisband"; -- Guild disband |
| 16:54.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | fail |
| 16:54.03 | dylanm | Hah. |
| 16:54.04 | Lopeppeppy | *laugh* |
| 16:54.09 | MoonWolf | ... |
| 16:54.12 | cladhaire | lol |
| 16:54.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | why are private server players even more moronic than normal wow players |
| 16:54.42 | MoonWolf | i don't know |
| 16:54.47 | MoonWolf | the people who make them have brains |
| 16:54.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mean hell |
| 16:54.54 | cncfanatics | because they're too stupid to earn 20$ a month to pay for the game |
| 16:54.58 | ckknight | these are the kind of people who are too poor or lazy to shell out $15/month |
| 16:54.59 | MoonWolf | but the players seem to be devoid of thme. |
| 16:55.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've done my share of playing on private servers but i'm not a moron about it |
| 16:55.25 | ckknight | like, junior high kids whose mothers won't let them play normally |
| 16:55.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | the morons on them keep me away more or less |
| 16:55.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | lots of russians on them |
| 16:55.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | russians and morons are like 95% of the playerbase on them |
| 16:56.41 | Drundia | that's why they make cheap subscription (or no at all) russian wow |
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| 16:59.15 | Lukian | |Jelly|, 244 arcane dust, 38 greater planar essence - from 7 days of random greens :) |
| 16:59.59 | dylanm | Hah. |
| 17:00.11 | dylanm | Russians will steal anything. |
| 17:00.27 | |Jelly| | oknice |
| 17:01.51 | foxlit | Grr |
| 17:02.11 | foxlit | Why am I only offered 1680x1050 widescreen resolution, and everything else at 4:3 or worse? |
| 17:03.00 | cncfanatics | because you're running a microsoft OS |
| 17:03.27 | Lukian | |Jelly|, lol my enchanting gbank tab is now full XD |
| 17:03.36 | foxlit | Insightful, cnc |
| 17:05.26 | cncfanatics | its true :p |
| 17:05.33 | cncfanatics | my WoW has about 15 resolutions to choose from |
| 17:05.40 | cncfanatics | and 5 are widescreen |
| 17:05.43 | Lukian | http://xs227.xs.to/xs227/08180/gbank-enctab679.jpg |
| 17:06.16 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 17:06.18 | cncfanatics | give some of that to me |
| 17:06.41 | Lukian | Roll enchanting ^_^ |
| 17:06.48 | cncfanatics | I'm an enchanter |
| 17:06.52 | cncfanatics | but cba to lvl it above 250 |
| 17:06.54 | Lukian | haha! |
| 17:07.00 | cncfanatics | and I haven't played activly since a month |
| 17:07.03 | cncfanatics | might also have to do with it |
| 17:10.46 | Kaso | foxlit, if you mean in wow, it gets the resolution list from the driver's supported resolutions, if you have nvidia you can add a custom resolution in the nvidia control panel which wow can then use |
| 17:11.54 | Fisker- | giev working host Lukian |
| 17:11.56 | Fisker- | liek tinypic.com |
| 17:12.13 | Lukian | xs.to works fine here |
| 17:12.16 | Lukian | tinypic annoys me |
| 17:12.24 | Kaso | xs.to is really painfully slow |
| 17:12.34 | Lukian | so load it in the background :p |
| 17:12.52 | cladhaire | images.gammatester.com |
| 17:12.54 | Fisker- | mine times out |
| 17:12.56 | cladhaire | loads fast |
| 17:12.58 | cladhaire | always works |
| 17:13.02 | Fisker- | so that's how slow it is |
| 17:13.03 | cladhaire | no bullshit |
| 17:28.15 | foxlit | Kaso: thanks, that worked |
| 17:28.39 | cncfanatics | damn, whats the func again to figure out what frame is under the cursor ? |
| 17:28.53 | Kaso | GetMouseFocus() |
| 17:28.58 | Kaso | only works on mouse enabled frames |
| 17:30.25 | cncfanatics | thanks :) |
| 17:30.35 | Kaso | im like a wealth of infomation at the moment! |
| 17:31.25 | cncfanatics | :) |
| 17:31.31 | cncfanatics | help me build my gui while you're at it |
| 17:31.56 | Kaso | infomatuion, not slave labour! |
| 17:32.19 | cncfanatics | both are exactly the same thing |
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| 17:34.45 | mikma | ok, so how can i get a path for icon i am mouseovering? |
| 17:35.31 | Kaso | it'll be something like select(1,GetMouseFocus():GetRegions()):GetTexture() |
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| 17:35.45 | Kaso | but im not sure which region it would be so that 1 might have to be changed |
| 17:36.03 | foxlit | Figure out the name of the Texture object displaying your icon |
| 17:36.09 | foxlit | then call getTexture on that :) |
| 17:36.10 | mikma | Kaso: thanks i'll try that |
| 17:36.55 | Kaso | doing /dump GetMouseFocus():GetRegions() will show you which is which as foxlit suggested above then you know which to call gettexutre on |
| 17:36.58 | mikma | that seems to work for items/stuff |
| 17:37.07 | Kaso | hah! im awesome |
| 17:37.23 | mikma | but i'm trying to get the texture for honor and bg-marks |
| 17:37.54 | cncfanatics | easyer to look it up on wowhead imho |
| 17:37.59 | Kaso | prob yes |
| 17:38.04 | nevcairiel | Does anyone know how the chances are that 2.4.2 will hit this week? |
| 17:38.05 | mikma | hmm nice idea. let's see. |
| 17:38.06 | foxlit | Is there any scenario in which ADDON_LOADED wouldn't fire for a loaded addon? |
| 17:38.12 | foxlit | Reload? Graphics restart? Log in? |
| 17:39.29 | foxlit | strike that |
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| 17:46.51 | mikma | Tekkub: hi. what's the '14' in this: 23572 10 |TInterface\Icons\Spell_Holy_ChampionsBond:14|t |
| 17:47.06 | Tekkub | size |
| 17:47.10 | mikma | cool |
| 17:47.25 | mikma | i'm trying to add honor and bg-marks into engravings pvpgear.lua |
| 17:47.45 | Tekkub | I want to got those mining from wowhead :) |
| 17:48.41 | mikma | good good :) |
| 17:49.47 | mikma | damn :P the texture for honor is "misplaced" |
| 17:50.04 | mikma | it's positioned like 5 pixels too high |
| 17:50.37 | MoonWolf | weird |
| 17:51.08 | Gotai | You can add offsets to texture links iirc. Lemme look it up for ya. |
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| 17:52.21 | Gotai | |TTexturePath:width:height:xoffset:yoffset|t |
| 17:52.37 | mikma | oh neat. let's see! |
| 17:53.35 | mikma | nice one, thanks Gotai! |
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| 18:00.03 | cncfanatics | whats the cost of initializing a library multiple times with libstub ? |
| 18:00.09 | cncfanatics | just a table ? |
| 18:02.40 | cladhaire | huh? |
| 18:02.42 | cladhaire | what do you mean |
| 18:02.44 | cladhaire | there's no "initializing" with libstub |
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| 18:03.12 | cncfanatics | I mean, whats the cost of calling LibStub("Library"); |
| 18:03.15 | cncfanatics | just a table right ? |
| 18:03.18 | cladhaire | no |
| 18:03.20 | cladhaire | there is no cost. |
| 18:03.26 | cladhaire | its a function call |
| 18:03.27 | cladhaire | nothing more |
| 18:03.32 | cncfanatics | oooh, sexy :) |
| 18:04.25 | Shirik | damn, this laptop handles WoW better than my desktop |
| 18:04.28 | Shirik | that's so not fair |
| 18:04.42 | cncfanatics | poor Shirik |
| 18:04.45 | MoonWolf | hook up to desktop screen |
| 18:04.47 | MoonWolf | and stop complaining. |
| 18:04.55 | mikma | Gotai: http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_050408_205916.jpg <- that's Tekkub's Engravings, but i tested how to add honor and bg-marks |
| 18:05.01 | Shirik | but my desktop, I <3 it :( |
| 18:06.04 | MoonWolf | you could rip the contents out of the laptop, and put in in your case. |
| 18:06.05 | cncfanatics | grrr, DAMN ACEGUI |
| 18:06.07 | MoonWolf | its a bit, iffy |
| 18:06.11 | MoonWolf | but if could work. |
| 18:06.15 | cncfanatics | instead of throwing errors when something is set wrong is tries anyway |
| 18:06.17 | wereHamster | Shirik, which laptop? |
| 18:06.23 | cncfanatics | so you get a weird error you know nothing about |
| 18:06.27 | cncfanatics | I'm just frustrated :p |
| 18:06.29 | Shirik | this new toshiba I got |
| 18:06.43 | Shirik | Core 2 duo T8100, 4GB ram, RAID0 |
| 18:07.06 | Shirik | 256MB dedicated memory graphics with up to 1024MB in shared mode (that's a bit odd, but hey) |
| 18:07.13 | Shirik | And I only paid $1300 for it |
| 18:09.21 | Shirik | ok time for me to run, 5 hour drive today! |
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| 18:13.12 | Alexanderyoshi | Hello |
| 18:13.21 | Alexanderyoshi | Who here things Iron Man is the best movie this year? |
| 18:13.26 | wereHamster | good morning sir :) |
| 18:13.38 | Alexanderyoshi | s/things/thinks |
| 18:14.22 | nevcairiel | didnt see it yet |
| 18:14.26 | nevcairiel | its good eh? |
| 18:14.55 | Alexanderyoshi | Superb |
| 18:15.03 | Alexanderyoshi | It's a solid movie the whole way through |
| 18:15.13 | Alexanderyoshi | No awkward moments that should have been cut |
| 18:15.25 | Alexanderyoshi | No scenes massively better than any others |
| 18:15.36 | Alexanderyoshi | mixture of serious action and humor, all while staying in character |
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| 18:16.02 | wereHamster | did MPAA pay you to promote the movie? :P |
| 18:16.04 | Alexanderyoshi | It's better than Cide's favorite movie, I'm sure |
| 18:16.08 | Alexanderyoshi | No, it's that good. |
| 18:16.10 | cncfanatics | hmmmm |
| 18:16.14 | cncfanatics | time to download a movie |
| 18:16.17 | Cide | what is my favorite movie? |
| 18:16.22 | Cide | I have that as the secret question for my email |
| 18:16.27 | Cide | but I can't remember the answer |
| 18:16.33 | cncfanatics | haha |
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| 18:17.58 | Alexanderyoshi | It was the Shawshank Redemption |
| 18:18.18 | Unregistered | hiya all, question about cosmos? |
| 18:18.21 | Lukian | Cide, lol! :D |
| 18:18.29 | Lopeppeppy | Little Mermaid, Cide. |
| 18:18.30 | Alexanderyoshi | Cosmos was written by a noob. |
| 18:18.34 | Lukian | Cide, The Lion King? |
| 18:18.38 | Alexanderyoshi | I hear he doesn't even work on it anymore! |
| 18:18.43 | Cide | Alexanderyoshi: what an ub |
| 18:18.48 | Cide | Alexanderyoshi: same thing with CTRA |
| 18:18.52 | Alexanderyoshi | Srsly |
| 18:18.54 | Unregistered | doubt it because i just got an update |
| 18:18.56 | Lopeppeppy | Noobland. |
| 18:19.02 | Cide | shitty coders 4 lyfe |
| 18:19.06 | Alexanderyoshi | What kind of schmucks work on free software anyways?? |
| 18:19.13 | Lopeppeppy | Unregistered, I think the boyos are yanking each others chains. :) |
| 18:19.17 | Alexanderyoshi | If they were any good, they would be selling themselves to Microsoft. |
| 18:19.17 | Cide | i no rite |
| 18:19.21 | cncfanatics | bah, only cam releases of ironman this far :( |
| 18:19.23 | Kaso | Selling addons is where it's at |
| 18:19.40 | Lopeppeppy | That reminds me to go see it, cncfanatics, I should check showtimes. |
| 18:19.45 | Alexanderyoshi | Unregistered, you came here via the Cosmos Website Chatbox? |
| 18:19.53 | cncfanatics | bah, why didn't the damn thing leak like all other movies ? |
| 18:19.57 | cncfanatics | as dvd that is |
| 18:20.03 | Alexanderyoshi | Because the people who worked on it are solid. |
| 18:20.11 | Alexanderyoshi | It's an amazing movie, well worth the $12. |
| 18:20.17 | Alexanderyoshi | Just go see it |
| 18:20.35 | cncfanatics | ain't out in europe yet |
| 18:20.41 | Kaso | it is in UK i think |
| 18:20.41 | Cide | $12? it's more like $15 for me! |
| 18:20.49 | cncfanatics | well, not in france at least, as those fuckers like to dub everything |
| 18:20.56 | Alexanderyoshi | Lame. |
| 18:20.57 | Kaso | oh, ofc |
| 18:20.58 | cncfanatics | while I like original versions, so I'm screwed |
| 18:21.00 | Cide | dub i dub i dub i dub dub dub |
| 18:21.00 | Lopeppeppy | 4pm, I'm there. $10 for me. |
| 18:21.06 | Alexanderyoshi | Unregistered, your question? |
| 18:21.09 | Cide | dub i dub i dub i yeah yeah |
| 18:21.18 | Alexanderyoshi | I think we scared him away. |
| 18:21.28 | Alexanderyoshi | Hahah |
| 18:21.36 | Unregistered | was there an update that would hide my target's buff/debuffs in WoW? |
| 18:21.41 | Cide | Alexanderyoshi: on the plus side, apparently the coder of cosmos isn't a noob |
| 18:21.50 | Cide | I disagree, but I respect his opinion |
| 18:22.18 | Alexanderyoshi | Cide: At least the guy who wrote CTRA knew how to spell correctly. |
| 18:22.33 | Alexanderyoshi | I disagree, but I am willing to accept his faults. ESL is hard. |
| 18:22.36 | Cide | Alexanderyoshi: tru dat |
| 18:23.04 | Alexanderyoshi | Unregistered: check Archaeologist, perhaps? |
| 18:23.13 | Alexanderyoshi | It may have accidentally been defaulted to off |
| 18:23.20 | Alexanderyoshi | There's a large buff manager |
| 18:23.27 | Alexanderyoshi | Lets you specify how many buffs you see |
| 18:23.36 | Unregistered | I'll take a look, thank you |
| 18:23.39 | Lopeppeppy | EFL is pretty hard too. *smile* |
| 18:23.41 | KarlKFI | alex. welcome to 2.4 arch is dead |
| 18:23.47 | Alexanderyoshi | Hey, look |
| 18:23.51 | Alexanderyoshi | It's the Cosmos guy |
| 18:23.57 | Alexanderyoshi | Unregistered, this guy is the man to talk to |
| 18:24.00 | KarlKFI | where? >.> |
| 18:24.06 | KarlKFI | <.< |
| 18:24.09 | Alexanderyoshi | Talk to KarlKFI, he's the pro! |
| 18:24.09 | KarlKFI | i dont see him |
| 18:24.30 | KarlKFI | aren't you sposed to poke with point and beat with blunt? |
| 18:24.41 | Alexanderyoshi | He's skilled like that. |
| 18:24.42 | KarlKFI | or smoke the blunt |
| 18:24.57 | KarlKFI | ut that's beside the point |
| 18:25.11 | KarlKFI | or next to the point if you prefer |
| 18:25.33 | Lopeppeppy | Lukian, I hope you've built up an immunity to iocaine powder... |
| 18:25.41 | Lukian | Lopeppeppy, indeed :) |
| 18:26.07 | AlexanderYoshi | I hate that movie |
| 18:26.11 | Lukian | I go sleep now! ni ni all |
| 18:26.32 | KarlKFI | Unregistered: i didn't hear a question but i bet the answer is: http://www.cosmosui.org/showthread.php?t=57614 |
| 18:27.17 | AlexanderYoshi | Wow, you're psychic |
| 18:28.05 | KarlKFI | there's not very many bugs in cosmos atm |
| 18:28.18 | AlexanderYoshi | How did you pull that off?? |
| 18:28.27 | AlexanderYoshi | I left you with like 9 million bugs |
| 18:28.37 | Lopeppeppy | He sacrificed several goats and your good name. :P |
| 18:28.43 | KarlKFI | well first off i moved everything i could away from using Earth |
| 18:28.43 | Mikk | AlexanderYoshi: I think the point is "you left" |
| 18:28.47 | Mikk | *ducks* |
| 18:28.53 | AlexanderYoshi | AHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAH |
| 18:29.27 | AlexanderYoshi | After 2.3 or whatever, you certainly didn't need it |
| 18:29.44 | Unregistered | cool thank you! |
| 18:29.47 | AlexanderYoshi | It's wierd having a good idea prematurely. |
| 18:29.50 | KarlKFI | yeah. i think PartyQuests is all that uses it, but i think yarko might be rewriting it from scratch |
| 18:30.05 | AlexanderYoshi | someone else might be re-writng it as well.... >_> |
| 18:30.23 | KarlKFI | orly? |
| 18:30.32 | AlexanderYoshi | Not me |
| 18:30.49 | AlexanderYoshi | I've still got my Raid Awards mod that I can't find the presence of mind to work on |
| 18:31.27 | KarlKFI | more power to them. I've basiclly accepted that fact that 50% of cosmos will eventually become default functionality.. |
| 18:31.42 | AlexanderYoshi | I got it working mechanically, then I was like "OK! This is cool! " then stopped adding more features |
| 18:31.50 | AlexanderYoshi | Heheh |
| 18:31.56 | AlexanderYoshi | Yeah |
| 18:32.00 | AlexanderYoshi | You're probably right |
| 18:32.11 | AlexanderYoshi | Not everything though |
| 18:32.39 | KarlKFI | no not everythign, and not with as many options |
| 18:33.05 | Drundia | Karl, that actually reminds me that there frequently happens infinite loop in CharacterProfiler when first opening enchanting, I thought you might want to fix it since it's in Cosmos. One moment, I'll find the evil place. |
| 18:33.11 | cncfanatics | rofl; not good |
| 18:33.27 | cncfanatics | I'm downloading torrents in my git directory |
| 18:33.41 | KarlKFI | didn't the CharacterProfiler author retire? |
| 18:33.48 | KarlKFI | if oyu have a patch i can apply it |
| 18:33.57 | KarlKFI | otherwise i make no garentees |
| 18:34.27 | Drundia | line 1880 |
| 18:34.35 | Drundia | in CharacterProfiler.lua |
| 18:34.36 | KarlKFI | pastebin it |
| 18:34.49 | Drundia | for idx=getNumTradeSkills(),1,-1 do |
| 18:35.09 | Drundia | if first return is 0 it's infinite loop, happens a lot for opening enchanting for the first time after logging in |
| 18:35.47 | KarlKFI | oh wait, profiler |
| 18:35.51 | KarlKFI | not viewer |
| 18:36.04 | KarlKFI | that author still updates everyonce in a while |
| 18:36.13 | Lopeppeppy | I need some of those funiture-mover-slider-things. Oiy. |
| 18:36.17 | KarlKFI | but he's nto technically part of cosmos |
| 18:36.28 | KarlKFI | we got permission to include it cause CV uses it |
| 18:36.39 | KarlKFI | it has it's own site to which you can report errors |
| 18:37.15 | KarlKFI | http://www.rpgoutfitter.com/MessageBoard/viewforum.cfm?FID=28 |
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| 18:37.46 | KarlKFI | last update was 11/27/07 |
| 18:38.12 | Drundia | pretty long time |
| 18:38.24 | Kolie | Hi everyone/. |
| 18:39.07 | KarlKFI | not unreasonable. a lot of my addons have only recieved toc updates in the past 6 months |
| 18:40.42 | Mikk | Drundia: you're wrong. "for i=0,1,-1 do" is not an infinite loop |
| 18:41.33 | wereHamster | lua> for i=0,1,-1 do end |
| 18:41.33 | lua_bot | wereHamster: No output |
| 18:41.43 | wereHamster | no 'cpu time exceeded' .. |
| 18:42.10 | KarlKFI | doesn't actually execute anything |
| 18:42.12 | Mikk | lua> function a() return 0 end; for i=a(),1,-1 do print(i) end; print("done!") |
| 18:42.12 | lua_bot | Mikk: done! |
| 18:42.25 | ScytheBlade1 | wtf |
| 18:42.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Now I've got 15 moderator points on slashdot |
| 18:42.32 | ScytheBlade1 | 0_0 |
| 18:42.33 | KarlKFI | from 0 to 1 by -1 is nothing |
| 18:42.46 | Mikk | exactly. so it's not an infinite loop. the problem is elsewhere |
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| 18:45.29 | Drundia | weird, because it actually hangs wow, but with an extra check it doesn't :O |
| 18:49.08 | AlexanderYoshi | ready for CREEPY? http://newmedia.funnyjunk.com/pictures/anime-eyes-wow.jpg |
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| 18:50.56 | Lopeppeppy | She did a really good job at that. |
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| 18:51.06 | haste | awesome :D |
| 18:57.56 | KarlKFI | did they super nerf the drop rate on [Razorthorn Flayer Gland]? |
| 18:58.05 | KarlKFI | i just had to kill like 20 to get 1 |
| 19:00.57 | foxlit | Does this video player work: http://www.spirit-dreams.net/?or ? |
| 19:03.22 | haste | "Click to download plugin" |
| 19:03.32 | foxlit | growl; platform, browser? |
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| 19:04.07 | Drundia | ok, so numeric for can't be infinite loop, what can hang wow besides infinite loops? |
| 19:04.41 | Drundia | some other weird conflicting addon doing infinite loop in response? |
| 19:05.12 | haste | foxlit: linux, midori |
| 19:05.57 | foxlit | haste: ouch. Any idea how I embed an AVI in HTML for that? |
| 19:06.08 | haste | you don't :p |
| 19:06.24 | haste | flash will work however |
| 19:06.57 | foxlit | Flash doesn't quite deliver the resolution |
| 19:07.07 | foxlit | plus I don't have anything to author flash with :( |
| 19:07.14 | cncfanatics | check the assassin's creed website |
| 19:07.17 | cncfanatics | and see how they do it |
| 19:07.22 | cncfanatics | the quality there rocks |
| 19:07.40 | cncfanatics | http://assassinscreed.uk.ubi.com/experience/ |
| 19:07.48 | Drundia | My wow just behaves strange. Sometimes it hangs randomly when erhm "scanning enchanting", sometimes it disconnects when touching items which is being fixed by disabling and then re-enabling one addon... What's happening? |
| 19:08.25 | KarlKFI | dunno, might check how frequently it rescans |
| 19:08.36 | KarlKFI | or if it fails gracefully |
| 19:09.23 | cncfanatics | Drundia: one of ur addons is fucking up |
| 19:10.59 | Drundia | It's just like fixing most of stuff with solution "delete WTF, Interface and WDB" is usually done by deleting cache.md5 |
| 19:11.21 | Drundia | in wtf\account\name or wherever it resided |
| 19:11.48 | cncfanatics | WDB I think |
| 19:11.56 | cncfanatics | WTF is solely wtf files and lua savedvars |
| 19:12.04 | [Liq] | http://i25.tinypic.com/2dai1s1.jpg |
| 19:12.20 | [Liq] | Ding L69 :)) |
| 19:12.22 | cncfanatics | [Liq]: fail |
| 19:12.30 | [Liq] | cncfanatics, no u |
| 19:12.38 | Drundia | no, it's actually WTF\Account\<name>\cache.md5 |
| 19:13.05 | Drundia | wdb may requite cleanup, but rarely. even hand-editing them doesn't cause problems really. |
| 19:13.22 | cncfanatics | what is that cache.md5 for then ? |
| 19:13.30 | Drundia | that's what i wonder myself |
| 19:13.52 | cncfanatics | what does it contain ? |
| 19:14.58 | cncfanatics | bah, contains binary data |
| 19:14.59 | cncfanatics | useless |
| 19:16.07 | haste | cncfanatics: that flash setup was kinda awesome |
| 19:16.49 | cncfanatics | from assassin's creed ? :p |
| 19:16.58 | cncfanatics | thats how it has to be done hehe |
| 19:18.01 | AlexanderYoshi | liq, those are some stylish duds |
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| 19:29.44 | seebs | Hey, any PitBull users here? I am being stumped by the flexibility of the interface. :) |
| 19:30.43 | Lopeppeppy | So many options, so little time! |
| 19:31.40 | seebs | I want to use flat bar textures. I cannot find a texture item. Searching the web turns up dozens, if not hundreds, of threads about how to add new textures to the list, but not a single explanation of where the list is. |
| 19:31.54 | seebs | I'm the weird guy who wants everything to be flat and untextured. :) |
| 19:34.25 | Lopeppeppy | SharedMedia? |
| 19:34.40 | Lopeppeppy | None of those textures appeal to you? |
| 19:35.47 | seebs | My problem isn't whether any of the textures appeal to me or not -- it's that I can't find any kind of widget, anywhere, to look at textures or pick one. |
| 19:36.08 | seebs | I am not yet at the stage of deciding that I want a new texture choice -- I can't find the menu to begin with. |
| 19:36.56 | seebs | I'm looking for something like "Texture: [pop-up-list]", and not finding it. |
| 19:37.16 | seebs | Oh! I may have found it... |
| 19:37.35 | seebs | It's a global setting. I was looking at all the individual bars. |
| 19:39.56 | Lopeppeppy | Yup. I just logged in and found it right on the global settings. |
| 19:40.47 | seebs | I kept looking at pretty much EVERYTHING else, because I was somehow convinced it'd be per-bar. |
| 19:40.57 | seebs | Now I just have to figure out why the only one I'm being offered is Blizzard. :) |
| 19:41.36 | Lopeppeppy | Do you have something spiffy like SharedMedia installed, to give you lots more to choose from? |
| 19:42.07 | seebs | I have SharedMediaLib, LibSharedMedia-2.0, and LibSharedMedia-3.0. |
| 19:42.19 | seebs | But these may be just the code, not the actual collection of textures. |
| 19:44.30 | Lopeppeppy | In addition to those I also have plain SharedMedia, perhaps that is what you're lacking? |
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| 19:44.57 | Lopeppeppy | http://files.wowace.com/sw-s.html |
| 19:48.22 | seebs | Yes. Thank you. |
| 19:48.29 | seebs | I was right! It *WAS* a stupid question. |
| 19:49.27 | Lopeppeppy | Nope. |
| 19:49.36 | Lopeppeppy | Just a lack of details, that's all. I'm glad I could help you out. |
| 19:54.03 | seebs | Heh. Now I have discovered a wonderful way to break pitbull. I accidentally disabled health text... So the "health" item was removed from the "texts" menu. So there's now no way to select that item to enable it. |
| 19:54.35 | Gotai | They're under Texts > Other |
| 19:55.23 | Gotai | Caused me lots of frustration as well. ^^ |
| 20:02.39 | seebs | Oh! |
| 20:04.39 | seebs | Thanks. Now I think I'm starting to get it. |
| 20:07.14 | Lopeppeppy | Once you get used to pitbull it's powerful and fun to play with. Getting used to = patience and time. |
| 20:11.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Whee. Once I played with Routes a bit more, I shaved off over 10k yards on some of my longer, more complex routes. |
| 20:11.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Rock on |
| 20:11.33 | zenzelezz | the shortest route is always a straight line zomg |
| 20:11.46 | ScytheBlade1 | But between how many different points?! |
| 20:15.34 | KarlKFI | zenzelezz: only in metric spaces. |
| 20:19.16 | zenzelezz | I'm a metric kind of guy |
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| 20:34.21 | zenzelezz | wow, M'uru down... expected that to take longer |
| 20:36.07 | _rane | whatever |
| 20:37.29 | Cide | longer? it's been quite a while |
| 20:37.47 | nevcairiel | yeah like what, 4 days? <.< |
| 20:38.14 | Cide | oh, right |
| 20:38.16 | Cide | the gates :/ |
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| 20:52.13 | Wizardling | Are there any quest helper addons that are known to play nice with Cosmos? |
| 20:52.32 | cladhaire | LightHeaded works fine if you disable PartyQuests |
| 20:52.43 | cladhaire | since i dont think that supports it yet |
| 20:52.49 | Wizardling | I have Cosmos, Gatherer, Fishing Buddy EBA, and Auctioneer Advanced installed right now. |
| 20:52.57 | Wizardling | and it already seems a bit messy |
| 20:55.58 | Wizardling | thanks cladhaire |
| 20:56.20 | cladhaire | well you can disable the things you don't want from cosmos and customize it more to your preferences |
| 20:56.27 | cladhaire | thats part of the fun :P |
| 20:56.53 | Wizardling | I like almost everything in Cosmos. |
| 20:57.12 | Wizardling | The team seems to have done a good job weeding crap addons |
| 20:57.34 | Wizardling | I just mean things get messy adding other non-Cosmos addons |
| 20:57.40 | cladhaire | they _can_ |
| 20:57.51 | cladhaire | depends on the add |
| 20:58.08 | Wizardling | indeed :-) |
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| 21:24.13 | KarlKFI | what do you mean by messy |
| 21:24.57 | KarlKFI | auctioneer, gatherer and cosmos all use SlideBar now |
| 21:25.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Speaking of that slide bar |
| 21:25.20 | ScytheBlade1 | HOW DO YOU KILL IT? |
| 21:25.21 | KarlKFI | greanted they have thier own configuration, but that's nto ont he screen all the time |
| 21:25.55 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:26.03 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:26.04 | kergoth | specifically |
| 21:26.13 | ScytheBlade1 | That's an epic win |
| 21:26.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Thank you so much |
| 21:26.31 | ScytheBlade1 | I had no idea what it was called or what it was doing, but I knew it was a part of gatherer I wasn't using |
| 21:26.43 | ScytheBlade1 | So I dragged it to the very corner of my screen, exposing maybe 10 pixels, and called it good |
| 21:34.29 | Wizardling | hmm... I couldn't get LightHeaded to work |
| 21:34.36 | cladhaire | what didn't work? |
| 21:34.52 | Wizardling | no idea |
| 21:35.11 | Wizardling | but I couldn't see how to configure or use it |
| 21:35.46 | Wizardling | same with TomTom |
| 21:35.59 | cladhaire | with lightheaded, you open the quest log |
| 21:36.10 | cladhaire | tomtom, you can configure it using /tomtom |
| 21:36.10 | Wizardling | it looked no different |
| 21:36.28 | cladhaire | are you sure its installed properly" |
| 21:36.36 | nevcairiel | you should have a little handle on the right side to open LightHeaded |
| 21:36.37 | Wizardling | yes, well it's not now. |
| 21:36.42 | Wizardling | into the trash it went |
| 21:36.43 | cladhaire | alright |
| 21:36.47 | nevcairiel | if its not open by default |
| 21:36.49 | cladhaire | then i guess we can't help you |
| 21:36.53 | cladhaire | nevcairiel: yes it is. |
| 21:37.09 | Wizardling | maybe I'll give it a go if I abandon Cosmos |
| 21:37.10 | nevcairiel | well then! |
| 21:37.36 | Wizardling | another go, that is |
| 21:37.43 | nevcairiel | I actually encountered someone in my guild today that uses cosmos. I really thought it was getting veeery rare |
| 21:37.59 | Wizardling | Do you think I've made a bad choice? |
| 21:38.10 | cladhaire | ... |
| 21:38.15 | cladhaire | why dont you .. i dont know.. |
| 21:38.19 | nevcairiel | no idea, i've personally never used cosmos |
| 21:38.19 | cladhaire | try to get them working together? |
| 21:38.29 | cladhaire | rather than quitting, considering we're here offering to help you |
| 21:38.43 | Wizardling | well, what would you suggest? |
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| 21:39.40 | Wizardling | I installed DoubleWide, LightHeaded ands TomTom and all that different was floating co-ords. I couldn't get the rest working. |
| 21:39.48 | cladhaire | you didn't trey hard |
| 21:39.49 | cladhaire | or talk to us |
| 21:39.50 | cladhaire | so *shrug* |
| 21:39.59 | Wizardling | well, ok - I am now :-) |
| 21:40.04 | Wizardling | suggestions? |
| 21:40.13 | cladhaire | well one |
| 21:40.16 | nevcairiel | floating coords is a good indicator that tomtom actually works :) |
| 21:40.30 | cladhaire | you have to make sure they are installed correctly |
| 21:40.32 | cladhaire | i also said you needed to disable partyquests |
| 21:40.43 | Wizardling | tried that |
| 21:40.54 | Wizardling | the quest window still looked standard |
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| 21:41.17 | cladhaire | listen |
| 21:41.24 | cladhaire | i'm not having a post-mortem conversation with you trying to figure this out |
| 21:41.28 | cladhaire | feel free to not use either of them |
| 21:41.43 | cladhaire | but if you're actually interested in getting them working, install it and lets figure things out. |
| 21:41.55 | Wizardling | Did I say something wrong? |
| 21:42.12 | cladhaire | no, i'm just telling you |
| 21:42.17 | cladhaire | if you would like to figure this out,m you need to install the addon |
| 21:42.22 | cladhaire | and work through things. |
| 21:45.11 | Wizardling | What can I say - I have a low tolerance for badly behaving non-cosmos addons. |
| 21:45.45 | cladhaire | that attitude is not the right one to take |
| 21:45.48 | Wizardling | I shall try to be more forgiving ;-) |
| 21:45.52 | cladhaire | no offense to anduinlothar an cosmos |
| 21:46.05 | cladhaire | but calling the others badly behaving is not entirely accurate |
| 21:46.14 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 21:47.21 | Wizardling | ok, how's this for a question: my primary needs are actually served by non-Cosmos addons right now, e.g. Gatherer. So what do you use? |
| 21:47.32 | Wizardling | just random collection of favoured addons? |
| 21:47.39 | cladhaire | i use the addons that suit my needs |
| 21:47.44 | Wizardling | or a more cohesive package like Cosmos? |
| 21:47.48 | cladhaire | its not a package |
| 21:47.51 | cladhaire | you're welcome to do what you want |
| 21:47.55 | Wizardling | ok, you pick and choose? |
| 21:47.58 | cladhaire | but i dont know what you want, and you clearly don't want my help |
| 21:48.00 | cladhaire | yes, i do |
| 21:48.06 | cladhaire | and that's fine |
| 21:48.13 | cladhaire | it just took me time to realize that's where we were. |
| 21:48.26 | Wizardling | may I ask your personal preferences with addons? |
| 21:49.17 | cladhaire | there is no categorical preference |
| 21:49.23 | cladhaire | if an addon does what i need it to do, i use it |
| 21:49.29 | cladhaire | if you're asking what addons i use, that's different. |
| 21:49.41 | Wizardling | yeah, I mean I'm wondering what you use right now :-) |
| 21:50.21 | Wizardling | generally. Obviously there are special needs and class or profession specific addons. But just generally what do you use? |
| 21:51.06 | cladhaire | Auctioneer, ControlFreak, Clique, DoubleWide, GatherMate, LightHeaded, Mapster, Outfitter, PerfectRaid, TomTom, TourGuide, mumble, WowLua and ouf_Lily |
| 21:51.11 | cladhaire | and tekJunkSeller |
| 21:51.14 | cladhaire | the most important one. |
| 21:51.49 | Wizardling | I've not tried a loot manager. |
| 21:51.57 | cladhaire | i dont use any |
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| 21:55.56 | cladhaire | the point is, you really need to make these decisions for yourself. |
| 21:56.25 | Wizardling | sure, but it can't hurt to look at what others use :-) |
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| 21:57.02 | Wizardling | plus I'm relatively new to WoW (five months in) |
| 21:57.14 | cladhaire | indeed |
| 21:57.20 | Wizardling | which is why I picked Cosmos to start with. |
| 21:57.31 | Wizardling | I really had no idea what I needed, heh |
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| 21:57.43 | cladhaire | its a catch-22 |
| 21:57.49 | cladhaire | you dont know what you need until you play without it, and then see it |
| 21:59.03 | Atriace | How do you register for OnEvent strictly from Lua? I've always done this from within XML. obj:RegisterEvent("OnEvent") ? |
| 21:59.05 | art3mis | clad uses hkui ;P |
| 21:59.18 | cladhaire | Atriace: you do the exact same thing, in Lua |
| 21:59.19 | Atriace | OnEvent is an event handler not an event itself... so I'm confused. |
| 21:59.23 | cladhaire | err |
| 21:59.25 | cladhaire | oh sorry |
| 21:59.44 | cladhaire | obj:SetScript("OnEvent", function(self, event, ...) --[[ do something here ]] end) |
| 21:59.53 | Atriace | ah yes. |
| 21:59.57 | Atriace | SetScript. Thanks. |
| 22:00.05 | cladhaire | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widget/Frame/SetScript specifically |
| 22:00.22 | Atriace | hey! A new site for wow programming, eh? |
| 22:00.29 | Atriace | How long has that been around? |
| 22:00.33 | cladhaire | since the book came out |
| 22:00.36 | Wizardling | A couple more questions to bother you guys with before I start trying out some non-Cosmos setups: |
| 22:00.37 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 22:00.40 | cladhaire | ~wowprogramming |
| 22:00.43 | purl | i heard wowprogramming is World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons, a book written by Cladhaire, Kaelten and Cogwheel. It serves as a technical reference for the WoW API and customization system (Due out May 5, 2008). http://tinyurl.com/5hnxob |
| 22:00.46 | Wizardling | Favoured addon sites? |
| 22:01.20 | foxlit | Mission accomplished: video demo now in flash <3 |
| 22:01.20 | Wizardling | and will WoW repair the addons directory if I delete everything there? I know some are Blizz addons. |
| 22:01.34 | Cairenn | yes it will |
| 22:01.54 | Cairenn | although my recommendation would be to back it up, instead |
| 22:01.58 | Cairenn | ditto your WTF folder |
| 22:02.05 | cladhaire | purl, no, wowprogramming is World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons (http://tinyurl.com/5hnxob) a book written by Cladhaire, Cogwheel and Kaelten, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 22:02.08 | purl | okay, cladhaire |
| 22:03.19 | Wizardling | Cairenn - ok, that's very handy to know. Thanks |
| 22:03.20 | Cairenn | that way if you decide you want to go back to it, you can just drop the backed up folders back into your WoW folder and be all set |
| 22:05.44 | Cairenn | but anytime you want to start *completely* fresh, back up then delete both your Interface and WTF folders, log in so Blizz can recreate the defaults, then try out your new stuff |
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| 22:07.03 | Wizardling | handy to know if I really FUBAR it up :-D |
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| 22:07.06 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Seerah] by ChanServ |
| 22:07.09 | Cairenn | :) |
| 22:08.26 | zenzelezz | there's something suspicious afoot |
| 22:08.38 | zenzelezz | it's been hours and hours since I saw Cairenn with an AFK tag |
| 22:09.38 | art3mis | she logging you |
| 22:09.42 | art3mis | shes |
| 22:09.49 | Wizardling | oh, one more question (hopes I'm not being too much of a PITA)... anyone else found after the Sunwell patch that commendations officers blue question mark pointer becomes invisible until you get really close to them? |
| 22:09.51 | art3mis | OR shes talking dirty with seerah again |
| 22:09.59 | Wizardling | not an addon issue... I think. |
| 22:10.10 | Cairenn | art3mis: again? always ;) |
| 22:10.17 | zenzelezz | Wizardling: known bug |
| 22:10.19 | Seerah | lol |
| 22:10.31 | art3mis | well yes but sometimes yuo're REALLY into the session ;) |
| 22:10.36 | Wizardling | huh. The GMs I've spoken to knew diddly squat. |
| 22:10.45 | Wizardling | zenzelezz: cheers |
| 22:16.16 | Guillotine | Wizardling: yah, well-known bug |
| 22:16.45 | Guillotine | And as for AddOn sites, the primary ones are WoWinterface.com, Curse.com, and ui.worldofwar.net. I think most of us in here use the first two, but all three are there |
| 22:17.41 | Cairenn | Guillotine: thanks for answering that part of the question - I'm rather biased so prefer not to |
| 22:18.05 | Guillotine | Oh, also www.wowace.com |
| 22:18.14 | Guillotine | can't think of any others atm |
| 22:18.51 | Cide | you missed the best one |
| 22:18.51 | Cide | www.ctmod.net |
| 22:18.51 | Cide | also unbiased |
| 22:19.20 | Guillotine | Actually, you know what the best AddOn site is? |
| 22:19.22 | Guillotine | google |
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| 22:20.11 | Cide | lies |
| 22:20.23 | Cide | inconclusive results when searching for "BEST MOD EVER WORLD OF WARCRAFT" |
| 22:20.42 | Guillotine | Really? I just get pages and pages of HighRoller when I do that |
| 22:20.48 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 22:20.57 | Cide | as you should |
| 22:22.22 | Guillotine | http://www.google.com/trends?q=highroller%2C+loots&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0 |
| 22:22.36 | Guillotine | notice how the spike in loots occurs with the spike in HighRoller |
| 22:23.41 | Cide | haha |
| 22:23.42 | Cide | amazing |
| 22:24.13 | Cide | see the latest news heading too? it coincides just right with the release of HighRoller |
| 22:24.20 | JoshBorke | Guillotine: grats on blizz internship |
| 22:24.42 | Guillotine | JoshBorke: thanks :) |
| 22:25.07 | Cide | "HighRoller - Best mod ever? Get the loots you want, today! - Mar 30 2008" |
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| 22:26.58 | Guillotine | Win: look at the news reference volume for http://www.google.com/trends?q=pie%2C+happiness&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0 |
| 22:27.16 | Cairenn | Wizardling: I noticed your user ip - do I happen to know you? |
| 22:28.22 | Cide | Guillotine: I notice many coinciding spikes |
| 22:29.02 | Guillotine | Also, Santiago, Chile seems to have a lot of pie, but not much happiness |
| 22:30.03 | Guillotine | Weird. Look how regular the spikes in pie are: http://www.google.com/trends?q=pie&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0 |
| 22:30.18 | Tem | Guillotine, october |
| 22:30.21 | Tem | punpkin pie |
| 22:30.23 | Guillotine | ah |
| 22:30.27 | Tem | pumpkin |
| 22:30.54 | Guillotine | Yah, you're right |
| 22:39.30 | [Liq] | Noooo :(( Look what I just joined http://i26.tinypic.com/2r4k0nb.jpg ---- And no Graveyards either :(( http://i32.tinypic.com/15e94y9.jpg |
| 22:42.34 | art3mis | wheeeeeeeee |
| 22:42.46 | art3mis | i got bored so im installing debian+xen again |
| 22:43.45 | art3mis | http://www.staples.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/StaplesProductDisplay?&langId=-1&storeId=10001&noredir=true&catalogId=10051&productId=119841&cmArea=SEARCH |
| 22:43.52 | art3mis | ^^ 50pack of dvd+r for 9.98 |
| 22:46.06 | art3mis | https://covermount.win-rar.com/pcwelt0508/ <-- free licence for winrar 3.62 ;P |
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| 23:46.46 | Seerah | hola Kirkburn |
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| 23:50.26 | Yssaril | Seerah: did that fix yoru problem? |
| 23:51.04 | Atriace | Anyone know why my function wouldn't be passing event arguments with SetScript? http://wowuidev.pastey.net/87236 |
| 23:51.13 | Seerah | it helped :) It also didn't like the way I was registering my slash commands for some reason - even though I did it the same way as on the WelcomeHome tut |
| 23:51.27 | Seerah | thank you again, Yssaril :) |
| 23:52.42 | Yssaril | i dont think the welcomehome tutorial is altheway rewritten for Ace3 yet i learned for mreading ag_uf and gathermate code and the ace3 luas themselves |
| 23:54.03 | Atriace | Nevermind... I got the bug fixed |
| 23:58.42 | bleeter | oO Kisirani designed Griftah |
| 23:59.16 | ScytheBlade1 | This is news or shocking? |
| 23:59.32 | bleeter | course, took a buncha yelling engis to make Griftah superawesomecool |
| 23:59.38 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
