| 00:06.34 | JoshBorke | sometimes i wish i knew more japanese |
| 00:08.14 | haste | then study some! :3 |
| 00:08.36 | JoshBorke | reading japanese is hard, mmk |
| 00:09.00 | AlexanderYoshi | nihongo ga muzukashii desu. |
| 00:09.14 | JoshBorke | all of the links are in english though ;-) |
| 00:09.20 | JoshBorke | so desu yo |
| 00:09.23 | JoshBorke | honto desu neh |
| 00:09.28 | JoshBorke | or is it hanto? |
| 00:09.33 | JoshBorke | pretty sure it's honto |
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| 00:09.50 | kd3 | it's honto... as in "honto ni taihen desu" |
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| 00:10.04 | Cairenn | bleeter: ping? |
| 00:10.36 | JoshBorke | that is truly hard? |
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| 00:24.58 | WobWork | pft |
| 00:25.01 | zenzelezz | does that mean you didn't find any moves? |
| 00:25.04 | zenzelezz | or movies |
| 00:25.08 | WobWork | good suggestions for a good irc client for XP? |
| 00:25.16 | JoshBorke | WobWork: pidgin |
| 00:25.28 | Lopeppeppy | I use Trillian, Wobwork. Most people do not like. :( |
| 00:25.29 | zenzelezz | WobWork: XChat or mIRC I'd say |
| 00:25.31 | MentalPower | WobWork: ChatZilla |
| 00:25.38 | MentalPower | mIRC, EWWW!!!! |
| 00:25.42 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: doesn't matter what most people think as long as you're happy |
| 00:25.54 | zenzelezz | say what you want mIRC is a good client, and very scriptable to your tastes |
| 00:26.01 | Lopeppeppy | zenzelezz, I discovered there was a lot of yummy Egyptian history on Discovery, so I swapped computers to sit out here. |
| 00:26.03 | zenzelezz | I once scripted it to look just like XChat |
| 00:26.04 | WobWork | I had pidgin |
| 00:26.09 | WobWork | but I'm using Digsby now |
| 00:26.12 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: Discovery <3 |
| 00:26.32 | WobWork | so it seems silly to run it just for irc |
| 00:26.44 | Lopeppeppy | Exactly, zenzelezz. And I love Egyptian and Roman history. |
| 00:29.24 | Cairenn | pidgin, trillian |
| 00:30.38 | Lopeppeppy | I use trillian to combine all of the accounts I need for work and play -- YIM, AIM, IRC, ICQ, MSN.... |
| 00:30.58 | Cairenn | this is (amazingly) a good comparison chart for the multi-protocol IM clients: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_instant_messaging_clients |
| 00:31.08 | Lopeppeppy | Cairenn rules. |
| 00:31.20 | Cairenn | Lopeppeppy: ditto, but currently using pidgin instead - same concept though |
| 00:31.28 | WobWork | Lopeppeppy: I'm doing the same. but with Digsby |
| 00:31.39 | WobWork | brb |
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| 00:32.29 | Cairenn | I'm looking forward to Trillian Astra when it comes out |
| 00:32.37 | Keias | Trillian Astra? |
| 00:32.42 | Cairenn | I may go back to Trillian at that point, instead of Pidgin |
| 00:32.49 | Lopeppeppy | I hear it's the cat's pajamas, this new Astra. |
| 00:33.00 | Cairenn | I'm in the alpha for it, it's buggy as hell atm |
| 00:33.02 | WobWork | hehe Trillian Astra |
| 00:33.06 | WobWork | Sounds like a make of car |
| 00:33.13 | Keias | Its it more of a slimmed down version of Trillian? |
| 00:33.20 | Keias | Because thats what keeps me on Pidgin, the simplicity |
| 00:33.20 | Cairenn | which is why I'm still on Pidgin |
| 00:33.21 | Lopeppeppy | Sounds like a character in Hitchhiker's Guide. |
| 00:33.33 | WobWork | I'm quite liking Digsby. It's got email/imap and stuff like Facebook incorporated |
| 00:33.49 | Cairenn | http://www.trillianastra.com/preview/index.html |
| 00:34.10 | Keias | ty Cairenn :) |
| 00:34.19 | Cairenn | you're welcome :) |
| 00:34.29 | WobWork | www.digsby.com/ |
| 00:34.45 | Keias | Digsby looks promising |
| 00:34.49 | Keias | I'll give that a go later tonight |
| 00:34.54 | WobWork | windows only atm, though |
| 00:36.31 | Cairenn | bah, not enough protocols supported by digsby |
| 00:36.59 | Cairenn | I hear that Mac users LOVE adium |
| 00:37.08 | Cairenn | I'm always hearing good things about it |
| 00:37.16 | WobWork | what's it missing, Cair? |
| 00:37.37 | Keias | Yeah, I loved Adium when I had my Macbook |
| 00:38.02 | Keias | It was similar to the then Gaim. |
| 00:38.13 | Cairenn | well, according to the wikipedia page for it, WobWork, it doesn't support aim, icq, irc |
| 00:38.18 | MentalPower | I thought adium used libpurple |
| 00:38.31 | Cairenn | nm, it does |
| 00:38.55 | Cairenn | hmmm, but not irc |
| 00:39.04 | WobWork | yeah no irc |
| 00:39.13 | Cairenn | no irc == fail |
| 00:39.39 | Arrowmaster | irc on most im clients == fail anyway |
| 00:39.45 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ truth |
| 00:40.04 | Cairenn | all in one really should be all in one, imo |
| 00:40.14 | Cairenn | which means irc as well |
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| 00:41.26 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_040608_173538.jpg |
| 00:42.18 | Lopeppeppy | That is... for win.... |
| 00:42.21 | MentalPower | lol |
| 00:43.21 | Cairenn | lol |
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| 01:09.39 | WobWorking | Cairenn: http://digsbies.org/site/node/137 |
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| 01:11.03 | Cairenn | *nod* |
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| 01:14.17 | Cairenn | hey Tekkub |
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| 01:23.21 | Cairenn | ~staple JoshBorke |
| 01:23.22 | purl | ACTION attaches a staple gun to a pneumatic nail gun via duct tape, staples JoshBorke quite well, and hands JoshBorke to cairenn |
| 01:25.26 | AlexanderYoshi | brain dead question |
| 01:25.42 | AlexanderYoshi | how do I find out how many values an array has, including non-numerical key |
| 01:25.49 | AlexanderYoshi | table.getn doesnt work |
| 01:26.08 | kergoth | rtfm |
| 01:26.15 | AlexanderYoshi | srsly |
| 01:26.21 | AlexanderYoshi | is it.. |
| 01:26.21 | kergoth | www.lua.org -> documentation -> reference manual for lua 5.1 |
| 01:26.33 | AlexanderYoshi | --> select("#", {1,2,3,settings=true}) |
| 01:26.33 | batbot | AlexanderYoshi: > 1 |
| 01:26.36 | AlexanderYoshi | damnit |
| 01:26.58 | AlexanderYoshi | --> table.getn({1,2,3,settings=true}) |
| 01:26.58 | batbot | AlexanderYoshi: > 3 |
| 01:27.03 | AlexanderYoshi | htmmm |
| 01:27.18 | AlexanderYoshi | select("#",{settings=true}) |
| 01:27.26 | AlexanderYoshi | --> select("#",{settings=true}) |
| 01:27.26 | batbot | AlexanderYoshi: > 1 |
| 01:27.42 | AlexanderYoshi | --> select("#", {1,2,3}) |
| 01:27.42 | batbot | AlexanderYoshi: > 1 |
| 01:27.44 | AlexanderYoshi | damnit |
| 01:29.30 | MentalPower | -->#{1,2,3,settings=true} |
| 01:29.30 | batbot | MentalPower: > 3 |
| 01:29.53 | MentalPower | oh with non-numericals, hmm... |
| 01:29.56 | MentalPower | pairs iteration |
| 01:30.09 | AlexanderYoshi | T_T |
| 01:30.13 | AlexanderYoshi | I dont want to run a loop |
| 01:30.21 | MentalPower | no choice |
| 01:30.24 | AlexanderYoshi | I just want to query a table to find out if its empty |
| 01:30.29 | AlexanderYoshi | thats all I really want |
| 01:30.29 | MentalPower | oh |
| 01:30.31 | MentalPower | thats easy |
| 01:30.35 | Kirov | !lua table.maxn({1,2,3,settings=true}) |
| 01:30.35 | batbot | Kirov: > 3 |
| 01:30.44 | MentalPower | --> next{1,2,3,settings=true} |
| 01:30.44 | batbot | MentalPower: > 1, 1 |
| 01:30.49 | MentalPower | --> next{} |
| 01:30.49 | batbot | MentalPower: > nil |
| 01:30.53 | AlexanderYoshi | woot |
| 01:32.21 | WobWorking | good ol' next |
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| 01:45.02 | lagger` | functions are gced if they have no reference right |
| 01:45.25 | MentalPower | lagger`: correct |
| 01:45.33 | MentalPower | all objects in Lua actually |
| 01:45.46 | MentalPower | functions, tables, strings, etc |
| 01:49.52 | lagger` | what about references, like local i |
| 01:50.02 | lagger` | i read that they dont get gced |
| 01:50.12 | lagger` | but do they take up little to no memory? |
| 01:55.42 | MentalPower | local i is part of the function |
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| 01:55.48 | MentalPower | or more exactly, the closure |
| 01:56.08 | MentalPower | lagger`: http://www.wowwiki.com/Lua_object_memory_sizes |
| 02:01.33 | Kaso | MentalPower, lol @ the last section |
| 02:01.57 | lagger` | i dont get what it means by upvalues that actually change |
| 02:02.07 | lagger` | why would it take up 32 more bytes |
| 02:04.09 | MentalPower | its a Lua implementation thing, if you want more specifics, either ask Iriel or Mikk or visit #Lua (last one is the best option) |
| 02:04.41 | Iriel | since an upvalue has to be shared between multiple objects, it has to be a 'collectable value' |
| 02:04.54 | Iriel | so it consumes the memory required to hold a value structure and pointers for GC |
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| 02:07.00 | MentalPower | --> function foo() local test = 1 function bar() print(test) end function baz(new) test = new end return bar, baz end local bar, baz = foo() bar() baz(23) bar() baz(12) bar() |
| 02:07.00 | batbot | MentalPower: 12312 |
| 02:07.07 | MentalPower | interesting |
| 02:07.44 | MentalPower | --> function foo() local test = 1 function bar() print(test) end function baz(new) test = new end return bar, baz end local bar, baz = foo() bar() baz(23) bar() baz(12) bar() bar,baz = foo() bar() |
| 02:07.44 | batbot | MentalPower: 123121 |
| 02:08.07 | MentalPower | --> function foo() local test = 1 function bar() print(test) end function baz(new) test = new end return bar, baz end local bar, baz = foo() bar() baz(23) bar() baz(12) bar() local bar2,baz2 = foo() bar2() bar() |
| 02:08.08 | batbot | MentalPower: 12312112 |
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| 02:10.19 | Guillotine | I'm tempted to unsecure my wireless network just so that I can use wireshark while playing Brawl over the wiifi |
| 02:10.49 | MentalPower | Guillotine: install wireshark on the router :) |
| 02:11.10 | Guillotine | The router is a complete POS |
| 02:11.21 | Guillotine | I need to get a real server |
| 02:11.29 | Kaso | why'd you want to sniff brawl? |
| 02:11.31 | MentalPower | Iriel: do the memory requirements increase if the upvalue is shared by more than one function? |
| 02:11.38 | Guillotine | Kaso: see whats going on :) |
| 02:11.39 | Iriel | No |
| 02:11.41 | Guillotine | Its always interesting |
| 02:11.45 | Iriel | well, that's nto quite true |
| 02:11.54 | MentalPower | Guillotine: I'm guessing secondary SSIDs are out of the question too? |
| 02:11.55 | Iriel | the upvalue's cost itself doesn't increase |
| 02:12.04 | Iriel | but each closure needs an extra pointer per upvalue it references |
| 02:12.24 | Guillotine | Kaso: also, theres stuff like the taunt macros. If the text is just being sent each time, there could be a script on the router to let people chat via those |
| 02:12.29 | Guillotine | MP: probably |
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| 02:12.42 | Guillotine | eh, I'm going to make my router configurable over wireless quickly so I can play with it |
| 02:12.45 | MentalPower | Iriel: ah, so its 32bytes per closure per upvalue |
| 02:12.52 | Iriel | No |
| 02:13.24 | Iriel | A closure is 28 bytes |
| 02:13.25 | Iriel | Each upvalue reference the closure contains is 4 bytes |
| 02:13.25 | Iriel | Each referenced upvalue is 32 bytes |
| 02:13.50 | Iriel | so if you have 20 closures refrerencing the same upvalue, it's 32 bytes for the value, and each closure will be 32 bytes |
| 02:14.12 | Iriel | if you have 20 closures each with its own upvalue, then you'd have 32 bytes for EACH upvalue, and each closure would still be 32 bytes (28+4) |
| 02:15.54 | lagger` | how much memory do variables inside the function closure cost? like function() local i = 1 end |
| 02:17.08 | Iriel | Nothing |
| 02:17.29 | Iriel | theyre stored on the stack |
| 02:17.32 | Iriel | which is considered 'free' |
| 02:17.38 | lagger` | o rly |
| 02:17.56 | lagger` | ive been storing everything in upvalues thinking it would be more efficient |
| 02:21.16 | MentalPower | Iriel: here's another one, local foo = 1 function bar() --[[so something with foo but not create any functions or anything]] end is foo considered a local or an upvalue? |
| 02:21.35 | Iriel | yes |
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| 02:21.40 | Iriel | if the inner function references foo |
| 02:21.59 | MentalPower | its an upvalue? |
| 02:22.07 | lagger` | +4 bytes |
| 02:22.10 | MentalPower | even if the function is at the file level? |
| 02:23.37 | Iriel | a file is a function |
| 02:23.54 | MentalPower | yeah, I answered that one myself |
| 02:24.13 | MentalPower | if only the constants table obeyed that rule :P |
| 02:25.18 | Iriel | oh.. apparently it does (After much research and invalidation of my earlier tests) |
| 02:25.39 | MentalPower | oh? hmm... |
| 02:25.49 | MentalPower | just not do ... end blocks? |
| 02:25.59 | lagger` | constants table? |
| 02:26.13 | Iriel | its per function, yeah |
| 02:27.07 | MentalPower | lagger`: constant table overflow is an error that happens when your function/file has more than 2^18-1 constants, the file/function will refuse to load |
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| 02:27.48 | lagger` | when you say constants do you mean locals |
| 02:28.20 | Iriel | no, constants |
| 02:28.26 | Iriel | like 7, and "Moo Cow" |
| 02:29.49 | Guillotin1 | Sweet! My wireless router might suck, but it has built-in logging, so I may be able to get at least *some* info about the way Brawl relays info |
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| 02:53.40 | MentalPower | --> 0x0000033F, 0x0000033F, 0x00001FD3, 0x00001FD3, 0x0000001A, 0x0000001A, 0x00003E02, 0x00003E02, 0x00000000, 0x00000000 |
| 02:53.40 | batbot | MentalPower: > 831, 831, 8147, 8147, 26, 26, 15874, 15874, 0, 0 |
| 02:55.22 | MentalPower | --> string.char(0x0000033F, 0x0000033F, 0x00001FD3, 0x00001FD3, 0x0000001A, 0x0000001A, 0x00003E02, 0x00003E02, 0x00000000, 0x00000000) |
| 02:55.22 | batbot | MentalPower: @ [string "return string.char(0x0000033F, 0x0000033F,..."]:1: bad argument #1 to 'char' (invalid value) |
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| 02:55.31 | MentalPower | --> string.char(0x0000033F, 0x0000033F, 0x00001FD3, 0x00001FD3, 0x0000001A, 0x0000001A, 0x00003E02, 0x00003E02) |
| 02:55.31 | batbot | MentalPower: @ [string "return string.char(0x0000033F, 0x0000033F,..."]:1: bad argument #1 to 'char' (invalid value) |
| 02:56.55 | AlexanderYoshi | mental |
| 02:57.03 | AlexanderYoshi | how do I do decimal -> hex |
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| 02:57.18 | AlexanderYoshi | 1297 -> hex |
| 02:57.30 | AlexanderYoshi | --> tonumber(1297, "0x00") |
| 02:57.30 | batbot | AlexanderYoshi: @ [string "return tonumber(1297, "0x00")"]:1: bad argument #2 to 'tonumber' (base out of range) |
| 02:57.34 | AlexanderYoshi | arg |
| 02:57.50 | reqol | does anyone know when the logs get uploaded to rikers? |
| 02:57.57 | MentalPower | ~logs |
| 02:57.58 | purl | [logs] apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
| 02:58.07 | Tem | --> tonumber(1297,16) |
| 02:58.07 | batbot | Tem: > 4759 |
| 02:58.16 | Tem | AlexanderYoshi, ^^ |
| 02:58.16 | MentalPower | AlexanderYoshi: is 1297 in hex, or do you want to convert it to hex? |
| 02:58.24 | Cairenn | http://ibot.rikers.org/%23wowuidev/ |
| 02:58.29 | AlexanderYoshi | hmmm |
| 02:58.31 | AlexanderYoshi | thanks |
| 02:58.42 | AlexanderYoshi | I think my flags are wrong somehow |
| 02:58.42 | AlexanderYoshi | O.o |
| 02:58.55 | MentalPower | my question still stands |
| 02:58.56 | Tem | --> string.format("%x",1297) |
| 02:58.56 | batbot | Tem: > 511 |
| 02:59.01 | reqol | Cairenn: thanks! |
| 02:59.05 | Cairenn | np |
| 02:59.21 | AlexanderYoshi | 511 |
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| 02:59.25 | AlexanderYoshi | damnit |
| 02:59.38 | AlexanderYoshi | why are there no extended bit there |
| 02:59.40 | AlexanderYoshi | I'm flagged as MT |
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| 03:01.22 | AlexanderYoshi | --> string.format("%x",66833) |
| 03:01.22 | batbot | AlexanderYoshi: > 10511 |
| 03:03.24 | AlexanderYoshi | --> string.format("%X", 68168) |
| 03:03.25 | batbot | AlexanderYoshi: > 10A48 |
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| 03:06.00 | AlexanderYoshi | --> string.format("%x",1049873) |
| 03:06.01 | batbot | AlexanderYoshi: > 100511 |
| 03:06.23 | AlexanderYoshi | yup |
| 03:06.27 | AlexanderYoshi | the main tank bit is broken |
| 03:06.29 | AlexanderYoshi | arg! |
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| 03:09.15 | Cairenn | wheee, net split |
| 03:10.37 | kd3 | <3 having joins/parts turned off |
| 03:11.08 | batrick | that's great until someone tells you the guy u were talking to for the last 5 minutes left |
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| 03:18.20 | Cairenn | yep |
| 03:27.56 | ScytheBlade1 | So, Teron Gorefiend for the first time |
| 03:28.12 | ScytheBlade1 | A (otherwise competent) resto druid made a macro |
| 03:28.31 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:28.35 | ScytheBlade1 | All in one line |
| 03:28.49 | MentalPower | O.O |
| 03:29.07 | MentalPower | ./castsequence anyone? |
| 03:29.22 | ScytheBlade1 | That actually won't work either |
| 03:29.44 | ScytheBlade1 | First two have a 15s CD |
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| 03:34.57 | MentalPower | so, when is the Westfall Inn going to have a complete roof? |
| 03:35.10 | ScytheBlade1 | I've wondered that for a long time |
| 03:35.16 | MentalPower | I mean they've been building the damn thing for 3years now |
| 03:35.31 | Keias | they should've hired the amish |
| 03:35.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Same with the bridge in... I forget the zone |
| 03:35.48 | MentalPower | Redridge Mountains |
| 03:35.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup, that |
| 03:37.10 | kd3 | meh, at least they made progress with the bridge in redridge |
| 03:37.27 | kd3 | weren't there holes before they added the wood bits? |
| 03:38.00 | MentalPower | rly? |
| 03:39.05 | kd3 | I remember falling into the lake once or twice running across not paying attention when I was levelling there all those years ago... maybe my mind's just messing with me |
| 03:39.26 | ScytheBlade1 | They have made progress, yeah |
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| 04:00.37 | WobWorking | It takes a whole lot of nails from that quest y''know |
| 04:00.42 | WobWorking | those damn gnolls |
| 04:01.14 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 04:01.18 | Shirik | RAWR! |
| 04:01.35 | Shirik | I mean hi |
| 04:02.00 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1, sag_ich_nicht, ping |
| 04:02.18 | Cairenn | so?! how'd you do? |
| 04:02.22 | Cairenn | tell us!!! |
| 04:02.58 | batrick | we thought u died |
| 04:05.08 | Guillotine | Tekkub: You stole my name "Panda" :( |
| 04:06.01 | Guillotine | Purl port > d/e |
| 04:07.06 | Shirik | omg this video is 38MB :( |
| 04:08.01 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik hai |
| 04:08.09 | Shirik | what did you ping me for? |
| 04:08.09 | sag_ich_nicht | what u want |
| 04:08.12 | sag_ich_nicht | oh rite |
| 04:08.24 | sag_ich_nicht | diassemble the thing from wowmatrix.com |
| 04:08.29 | sag_ich_nicht | keylogger suspected! |
| 04:08.37 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+v Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 04:08.48 | sag_ich_nicht | (protip: It's written in Revolution) |
| 04:09.07 | WobWork | Wowmatrix is the first up against the wall? |
| 04:09.12 | sag_ich_nicht | ya |
| 04:10.47 | Shirik | wowmatrix? |
| 04:10.55 | Shirik | Unless something new has come up, I dont think theres anything to check |
| 04:10.59 | Shirik | I checked it a while ago |
| 04:11.05 | Shirik | Is there reason to be suspicious though? |
| 04:12.00 | kd3 | meh, the advertising in my "It's Patch Day!" sticky put some distaste in my mouth, but I've never heard of any actual keyloggers coming from it |
| 04:12.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: pong |
| 04:12.22 | sag_ich_nicht | [06:11] <@Shirik> Is there reason to be suspicious though? <--there were some claims |
| 04:12.24 | sag_ich_nicht | on the forums |
| 04:12.25 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 04:12.27 | Shirik | same to you ScytheBlade1 |
| 04:12.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh |
| 04:12.36 | sag_ich_nicht | +the updater is shitty(but that's not a reason) |
| 04:12.38 | ScytheBlade1 | the WoWI updater |
| 04:12.43 | ScytheBlade1 | You're creating "Addons" not "AddOns" |
| 04:12.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Breaking case sensitivity |
| 04:12.49 | Shirik | oh yeah I know about that, sorry |
| 04:12.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Had a random guy join and report that problem |
| 04:12.58 | Shirik | fixed already |
| 04:13.20 | ScytheBlade1 | So I typed several lines to you in capital letters suggesting yout incompetency, etc etc etc, and then called it good |
| 04:13.32 | sag_ich_nicht | HEY |
| 04:13.33 | sag_ich_nicht | SHIRIK |
| 04:13.42 | sag_ich_nicht | get me a working conspiracy with unitframes. |
| 04:13.43 | Shirik | hi |
| 04:13.48 | sag_ich_nicht | 2.4 killed RDX with fire |
| 04:13.49 | sag_ich_nicht | :/ |
| 04:13.52 | Shirik | now that the robot competition is over, I can actually do something |
| 04:13.59 | sag_ich_nicht | awesome |
| 04:14.39 | batrick | did u win!?!?!?! |
| 04:14.52 | Shirik | no, but we still did amazingly well considering most of the programming was started 5 days ago |
| 04:14.57 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 04:15.00 | Shirik | because our hardware team is a bunch of idiots |
| 04:15.05 | batrick | =( |
| 04:15.05 | sag_ich_nicht | lawl |
| 04:15.09 | kd3 | whee, new xkcd's up |
| 04:15.11 | Shirik | of 47 teams, we placed 4th |
| 04:15.11 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik conspiracyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy |
| 04:15.19 | Shirik | (video being uploaded now) |
| 04:15.25 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 04:15.30 | ScytheBlade1 | lolol @ left/right/straight, hahaha |
| 04:15.34 | Shirik | I want you to see the video before I continue |
| 04:15.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Did it go up in flames? |
| 04:15.48 | Shirik | because there are amazing things about what happened that spoil the video |
| 04:16.45 | Shirik | p.s. neither the person you see in the video nor the person you hear are me |
| 04:16.49 | Shirik | sorry :) |
| 04:16.58 | Shirik | actually I probably can be heard somewhere |
| 04:19.01 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 04:19.02 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik |
| 04:19.08 | sag_ich_nicht | full epic nao D: |
| 04:19.12 | Shirik | Oh I said did you get that? |
| 04:19.14 | Shirik | at the end |
| 04:19.22 | Shirik | because none of us believed what we just saw |
| 04:20.28 | Shirik | While it uploads, I might as well tell you the rules so you know whats going on: 7 blocks are placed on the field, the bot must determine the 4 most valuable and take them back to the home base (the white square where we start from). Take more and you are penalized. Dont return to home base, and you get no points |
| 04:20.52 | Shirik | The zone in the far back is covered with rocks about 1.5cm high |
| 04:23.50 | ScytheBlade1 | You uploading to youtube, I take it? |
| 04:24.00 | Shirik | filefront |
| 04:24.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, cool |
| 04:24.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Yay non crappy format |
| 04:24.08 | Shirik | youtube messes with quality :( |
| 04:24.26 | Shirik | video is 38MB though :( |
| 04:24.57 | kd3 | what's 38MB in this day and age? |
| 04:25.10 | Shirik | we were having trouble with the left servo, it was spinning slower than the right for some reason |
| 04:26.44 | Shirik | I would also like to point out that what we did in this video, most other teams did in approximately 5 minutes (6 minute time limit) |
| 04:27.00 | Shirik | http://files.filefront.com/TriumphMPG/;9964266;/fileinfo.html |
| 04:28.34 | WobWork | how long did it take you? |
| 04:28.43 | Shirik | less than 2 |
| 04:28.51 | kd3 | <3 using my non-metered connection... 400KB/s down |
| 04:31.10 | kd3 | gack. gravel? |
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| 04:32.39 | Shirik | watch it all kd3? |
| 04:32.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Haha |
| 04:32.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Nice |
| 04:32.44 | Shirik | Now heres the thing |
| 04:32.45 | kd3 | yah |
| 04:33.02 | Shirik | This bot was not looking for blocks, the block detection system failed early |
| 04:33.16 | Shirik | it was running around randomly as per a fault system (backup algorithm) |
| 04:33.24 | Shirik | and then, it gets even better |
| 04:33.26 | kd3 | no freaking way |
| 04:33.29 | Shirik | hang on |
| 04:33.34 | Shirik | right when it went back to the base? |
| 04:33.46 | Shirik | Yeah, it wasnt coded to even look for the base until at least 2 minutes in |
| 04:33.50 | Shirik | How did it find the base? |
| 04:34.07 | Shirik | The front IR rangefinder was being interfered with by the IR beacon at the base, so it thought that wall was a million miles away |
| 04:34.10 | Shirik | and it literally crashed into the base |
| 04:34.18 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 04:34.20 | Tekkub | man... the only thing more satisfying that blowing 1.6kg on ore... |
| 04:34.29 | Shirik | thats why you can hear us in the video are you joking me? |
| 04:34.29 | kd3 | geez |
| 04:34.36 | Tekkub | is coming back at the end of the night and being back where you started with cash... |
| 04:34.44 | Tekkub | and 1000g worth of shit still on the AH |
| 04:34.51 | Shirik | it was so lucky... |
| 04:36.06 | kd3 | no kidding |
| 04:36.19 | Shirik | We almost won in the playoffs too |
| 04:36.23 | Shirik | but it crashed 3 inches too short |
| 04:36.28 | Shirik | so it didnt count as in base |
| 04:36.36 | Yssaril | Shirik, so basically you lucked out and it randomly got the right stuff ? |
| 04:36.38 | Shirik | and for some reason the home base detection algorithm didnt start up |
| 04:36.43 | Shirik | Yssaril: pretty much >< |
| 04:36.46 | Yssaril | rofl |
| 04:37.03 | WobWork | Shirik had installed HighRoller into his bot |
| 04:37.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Haha |
| 04:37.10 | Yssaril | HAHA |
| 04:37.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik missed out |
| 04:38.09 | Yssaril | is that thing still on curse? |
| 04:38.33 | kd3 | still on wowi |
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| 04:38.44 | sag_ich_nicht | lol Shirik you lucky bastard |
| 04:38.54 | sag_ich_nicht | this proves that contests aren't worth shit |
| 04:38.55 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
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| 04:39.46 | Shirik | yeah well |
| 04:39.51 | Shirik | if the hardware team actually tried to get me stuff on time... |
| 04:39.58 | Shirik | instead they were like, a week before the competition ok here you go |
| 04:40.00 | Shirik | Im like wtf |
| 04:40.16 | Shirik | and andrew and I had to code all the algorithms right there; fortunately I made the protocol extremely modular |
| 04:40.25 | Shirik | each new component only took about 20 lines to add |
| 04:40.36 | Shirik | I have never taken advantage of dynamic_cast and polymorphism so much before :p |
| 04:41.20 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 04:42.23 | Shirik | ok so wowmatrix, eh? |
| 04:42.37 | MentalPower | Shirik: were you here for April 1st? |
| 04:43.57 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik: yeah, but sylvanaar already did some disassembly |
| 04:44.08 | sag_ich_nicht | he claims it's harmless but didn't really go into details |
| 04:44.21 | sag_ich_nicht | (and said he can't read the script it uses properly) |
| 04:44.47 | Shirik | MentalPower: Yup |
| 04:44.58 | MentalPower | ah, k then :) |
| 04:45.14 | Shirik | sag_ich_nicht: downloading |
| 04:45.24 | Yssaril | sag_ich_nicht, whats wrong wiht wowmatrix? |
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| 04:45.50 | Yssaril | also is there a way to get the spelllink of the spell in your tooltip? kinda like what GameTooltip:GetItem() does for itemlinks? |
| 04:46.15 | Tem | not currently |
| 04:46.25 | Yssaril | arggg |
| 04:46.30 | Tem | I know |
| 04:47.25 | Yssaril | am trying to get the spelllink for a spell you recive in a quest via the questlog |
| 04:48.04 | sag_ich_nicht | Yssaril: well 1. claims of it having a keylogger in it on the forums |
| 04:48.12 | sag_ich_nicht | Yssaril: 2. it breaks most of the addons it installs |
| 04:48.22 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't care about the second one really |
| 04:48.39 | Yssaril | yikes |
| 04:48.59 | sag_ich_nicht | it fails at embeds/disembeds/externals/no-externals/etc. |
| 04:48.59 | Yssaril | never used it so i guess i am save :) |
| 04:49.29 | Xinhuan | half the claims on the forums are just ppl trolling |
| 04:49.32 | Xinhuan | i'll bet |
| 04:50.07 | sag_ich_nicht | probably |
| 04:50.07 | sylvanaar | sag_ich_nicht what i said was that I couldnt really get access to the script that it runs, but the exe itself is an off-the-shelf product which is a derivative of hypercard |
| 04:50.20 | sag_ich_nicht | well there you go |
| 04:50.24 | sag_ich_nicht | go talk to sylvanaar Shirik :P |
| 04:50.44 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan: but better safe than sorry :P |
| 04:50.48 | End | hmm |
| 04:51.32 | sylvanaar | it was doing something very strange I thought though - and i pastied that last night |
| 04:51.33 | End | dtchatevent won't work in the next xpac, will it? ..being that the globals won't get populated anymore.. |
| 04:51.39 | Yssaril | idk but anything that has to qualitfy itself on the front page with this "WowMatrix is a 100% FREE WoW AddOn Installer and Updater that is completely safe to use and contains no keyloggers or spyware." seams a little suspicious to me |
| 04:51.52 | sag_ich_nicht | sylvanaar: pastey it again :P |
| 04:52.04 | Yssaril | what do you mean with 'very strange'? |
| 04:52.46 | sylvanaar | http://ace.pastey.net/85192 |
| 04:53.05 | sag_ich_nicht | there Shirik go look at that or something :P |
| 04:53.21 | sylvanaar | i can sorta understand what this is doing |
| 04:53.53 | sylvanaar | since the program self-updates, this allow the exe you ran to be updated in-place |
| 04:54.34 | sylvanaar | still, it jumps out at you as being really suspicious |
| 04:55.07 | Shirik | sylvanaar: What program did you use to decompile? |
| 04:55.16 | sylvanaar | IDA |
| 04:55.43 | Fisker- | wut is it? |
| 04:55.50 | Shirik | any idea what that OpenProcess call is at? |
| 04:55.54 | Shirik | what memory location? |
| 04:56.01 | Shirik | I guess I can find it myself, its not a common call |
| 04:56.40 | sylvanaar | well, what it is doing is getting a handle to a process with an ID it finds in that file |
| 04:56.58 | sylvanaar | and asking for permissions to terminate the process |
| 04:58.43 | Shirik | yeah I meant where is it in the program, but I can find it |
| 04:58.47 | sylvanaar | .text:0050A897 |
| 04:59.11 | Shirik | thanks |
| 04:59.32 | sag_ich_nicht | it COULD pull in a keylogger using that, then reverse it on exit :> |
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| 05:00.33 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+v ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 05:00.34 | Tekkub | Seerah, pick more of my mods! :) |
| 05:00.43 | sag_ich_nicht | so it wouldn't even neccesairily have the logger inside the app you download but pull it in with the auto update |
| 05:01.39 | Seerah | give me something else to pick ;) <3 |
| 05:02.15 | Shirik | oh this looks familiar |
| 05:02.16 | Tekkub | 34 isn't a big enough selection? |
| 05:02.31 | Shirik | oh |
| 05:02.36 | Shirik | thats because I still have UI Central loaded in |
| 05:02.37 | Shirik | haha |
| 05:02.42 | sylvanaar | haha |
| 05:02.46 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 05:02.52 | sag_ich_nicht | lmao |
| 05:02.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: QUIT USING ILLEGAL SOFTWARE |
| 05:03.01 | sag_ich_nicht | lmao |
| 05:03.02 | Tekkub | *coughtourguidecoughcoughcough* |
| 05:03.03 | Shirik | >< |
| 05:03.42 | sag_ich_nicht | also shirik your ' and " are fuxx0red |
| 05:04.27 | Shirik | very aware :P |
| 05:04.36 | Shirik | talk to Cairenn :P |
| 05:04.44 | sag_ich_nicht | *sigh* |
| 05:05.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Stop using mIRC |
| 05:05.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Problem solved |
| 05:05.38 | Cairenn | not using mIRC :p |
| 05:05.44 | sylvanaar | i like mIRC, everything else was missing something i wanted |
| 05:05.51 | ScytheBlade1 | I meant Shirik |
| 05:06.16 | Nom | ALT+FAX = turn your IRC client into a fax machine! |
| 05:06.22 | Shirik | !g USP10.dll |
| 05:06.23 | batbot | Shirik: DLL-files.com - usp10.dll, free download <http://www.dll-files.com/dllindex/dll-files.shtml?usp10> |
| 05:06.27 | Cairenn | okay, you're forgiven then ScytheBlade1 ;) |
| 05:06.38 | Shirik | omg |
| 05:06.41 | sag_ich_nicht | ugh |
| 05:06.44 | Shirik | I literally got 10 CTCP/VERSION in the last 2 minutes |
| 05:06.45 | Shirik | stop it! |
| 05:06.48 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 05:06.53 | sylvanaar | haha |
| 05:07.09 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 05:07.12 | Shirik | wtf |
| 05:07.13 | Shirik | (01:06:54) - CTCP protection: ignoring CTCPs for 60 seconds |
| 05:07.17 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 05:07.20 | sag_ich_nicht | lol ^^ |
| 05:07.32 | MentalPower | CTCP version reply âmIRC v6.21 [v6]â from Shirik |
| 05:07.39 | Shirik | thats odd |
| 05:07.42 | Shirik | (01:06:46) - [CTCP/VERSION] from MentalPower (n=MPower@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Administrator/MentalPower) (Ignored) |
| 05:07.43 | Shirik | - |
| 05:07.53 | Shirik | obviously not doing a good job of ignoring |
| 05:07.54 | Shirik | lol |
| 05:07.55 | MentalPower | I only sent one |
| 05:08.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: it isn't replying |
| 05:08.09 | MentalPower | it ignored the one I just sent tho |
| 05:08.28 | Shirik | oh right |
| 05:08.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: that way, 1000 people can't CTCP one person, and that one person tries to reply to 1000 people at once, triggering a flood kick |
| 05:08.37 | sag_ich_nicht | it doesn't ignore the trigger |
| 05:08.41 | Shirik | MentalPower, yours was the last to allow through |
| 05:08.51 | MentalPower | yay! :P |
| 05:08.52 | Shirik | sylvanaar tripped it |
| 05:08.57 | ScytheBlade1 | hehe |
| 05:08.59 | sylvanaar | hehe |
| 05:09.09 | Shirik | I hate you all |
| 05:09.14 | ScytheBlade1 | His filter is down btw |
| 05:09.15 | sylvanaar | how do i chance my name to not show my ip address |
| 05:09.27 | Shirik | talk to an ircop |
| 05:09.28 | MentalPower | sylvanaar: ask Cairenn for a hostmask |
| 05:09.30 | Nom- | Use a realm IRC client :P |
| 05:09.31 | Shirik | or Cairenn |
| 05:09.35 | Nom- | *real |
| 05:09.53 | Nom- | <--- IRSSI |
| 05:09.58 | kd3 | good grief... I bought my current camera for blizzcon off woot... now they're selling a 12MP that can record 780p vid |
| 05:10.12 | sylvanaar | Cairenn can i have a host mask? |
| 05:10.40 | Cairenn | sylvanaar: what do you want? it HAS to start [yourname]@WoWUIDev/ |
| 05:10.48 | Cairenn | but you can put whatever you want after that / |
| 05:11.03 | Shirik | and it cant say something like /Administratix :P |
| 05:11.27 | MentalPower | kd3: lol |
| 05:11.35 | MentalPower | kd3: don't you get a Wikia one? |
| 05:12.07 | End | WoWUIDev/TotallyAwesome |
| 05:12.17 | kd3 | mp; probably if I asked |
| 05:12.18 | ScytheBlade1 | wtf, why wasn't I authed |
| 05:12.20 | *** part/#wowuidev ScytheBlade1 (n=Death@about/pxe/ScytheBlade1) |
| 05:12.20 | *** join/#wowuidev ScytheBlade1 (n=Death@about/pxe/ScytheBlade1) |
| 05:12.25 | ScytheBlade1 | There we go |
| 05:12.52 | pastamancer | sylvanaar: WoWUIDev/HotIRL |
| 05:12.59 | sylvanaar | um, sylvanaar@WoWUIDev/kk |
| 05:13.19 | sylvanaar | nice and short |
| 05:13.27 | Shirik | sylvanaar, did you see this? |
| 05:13.29 | Shirik | Its interesting |
| 05:13.31 | Shirik | 0050A7E2 |. 68 0CE85700 PUSH WowMatri.0057E80C ; ASCII "._%08x%08x%08x%08x%08x%08x%08x%08x_????????.pid" |
| 05:13.36 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 05:13.52 | ScytheBlade1 | .pid |
| 05:13.56 | sylvanaar | that's what i was pasteying about |
| 05:13.59 | kd3 | ...what the |
| 05:14.04 | pastamancer | what makes that interesting? |
| 05:14.18 | Shirik | oh |
| 05:14.20 | sylvanaar | it is putting process ID's into that file |
| 05:14.22 | Shirik | it creates it a little earlier |
| 05:14.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 05:14.42 | sylvanaar | and then opening those processes with Close/Terminate permissions |
| 05:15.02 | Shirik | its odd but nothing outrageously suspicious, youre right |
| 05:15.08 | Shirik | though Im curious about the hidden attribute |
| 05:15.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Bah, now I'm curious |
| 05:16.07 | sylvanaar | it does enumerate all your processes though, and there can be more than one pid in that file |
| 05:16.14 | sylvanaar | so, it is still suspect |
| 05:17.09 | sylvanaar | does it kill the previous copy of itself after launching a self-update? or does it kill your malware scanner? |
| 05:18.03 | *** join/#wowuidev quoin (n=quoin@219-90-170-98.ip.adam.com.au) |
| 05:18.15 | Shirik | Did you ever find the script? I found a long string that almost looks encrypted |
| 05:19.05 | sylvanaar | yeah, i think thats some sort of image actually |
| 05:19.07 | Shirik | wtf is this? |
| 05:19.24 | Shirik | not that its malicious, but.... |
| 05:19.33 | sag_ich_nicht | [07:11] * kd3 ponders asking for WoWUIDev/ForumTroll <--then i want @WoWUIDev/ObnoxiousTroll |
| 05:19.42 | sylvanaar | oh do you have a link to the program that it is? |
| 05:19.52 | Shirik | Ultra String Reference, item 579, Address=004741CB |
| 05:19.52 | Shirik | Disassembly=MOV ECX,WowMatri.00571E8C; ASCII "baud=9600 parity=N data=8 stop=1" |
| 05:19.57 | Shirik | wtf? |
| 05:20.11 | MentalPower | ok... |
| 05:20.20 | MentalPower | sending over Com1 are we? |
| 05:20.26 | sag_ich_nicht | o_O what the fuck |
| 05:20.29 | batrick | that's interesting |
| 05:20.30 | ScytheBlade1 | lol wtf |
| 05:20.36 | sylvanaar | Shirik http://www.runrev.com/home/product-family/ |
| 05:20.47 | Shirik | ah |
| 05:20.51 | Shirik | I was wondering what that copyright string was |
| 05:20.57 | sylvanaar | its freaking hypercard |
| 05:21.08 | sylvanaar | i would have rather it had been a trojan |
| 05:21.16 | sag_ich_nicht | maybe it's a trojan |
| 05:21.20 | sag_ich_nicht | written in hypercard |
| 05:21.25 | MentalPower | lol |
| 05:21.25 | ScytheBlade1 | rSure |
| 05:21.25 | sylvanaar | at least it would have had some style |
| 05:21.26 | sag_ich_nicht | (oh snap) |
| 05:21.27 | sylvanaar | no |
| 05:21.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Er, wrong window |
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| 05:22.03 | *** join/#wowuidev ckknight_ (n=ckknight@adsl-71-141-122-33.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 05:22.03 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+v ckknight_] by ChanServ |
| 05:22.03 | sylvanaar | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:22.39 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 05:22.45 | sag_ich_nicht | it would be the ideal disguise |
| 05:22.51 | sag_ich_nicht | nobody would expect it |
| 05:23.12 | batrick | you just contradicted yourself sag 'grats |
| 05:23.26 | sag_ich_nicht | brb somethings in my eye |
| 05:30.51 | sag_ich_nicht | okay |
| 05:30.56 | sag_ich_nicht | batrick what why |
| 05:31.18 | sag_ich_nicht | god |
| 05:31.23 | sag_ich_nicht | i need to get my eyelids fixesd |
| 05:31.24 | sag_ich_nicht | *fixed |
| 05:33.30 | sylvanaar | damn barack obama ads are playing all the time here, im going to shoot my tv |
| 05:33.32 | ScytheBlade1 | For the curious, wowmatrix does not remotely work over RDP |
| 05:33.49 | sag_ich_nicht | oà |
| 05:33.57 | sag_ich_nicht | that's weird |
| 05:34.35 | ScytheBlade1 | It also sends your current windows version |
| 05:35.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh. And it uses the wowace mirror |
| 05:35.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Request URI: /latest.xml |
| 05:35.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Host: files.wowace.com |
| 05:35.47 | sag_ich_nicht | i know |
| 05:35.51 | sag_ich_nicht | i already asked Kaelten to ban it |
| 05:36.01 | Kaelten | ? |
| 05:36.02 | sag_ich_nicht | because it fails at installing the addons properly |
| 05:36.12 | sag_ich_nicht | Kaelten: wowmatrix client |
| 05:36.13 | Cairenn | oh really? |
| 05:36.18 | ScytheBlade1 | It's not easy to ban |
| 05:36.20 | Kaelten | oh, ya its a peice of shit |
| 05:36.27 | sylvanaar | hypercard! |
| 05:36.28 | ScytheBlade1 | It uses IE7 to do all of the data transfer |
| 05:36.28 | Cairenn | we've had complaints about it too |
| 05:36.29 | Kaelten | does it use its own mask? |
| 05:36.32 | ScytheBlade1 | No |
| 05:36.35 | sylvanaar | its written in freaking hypercard! |
| 05:36.42 | sag_ich_nicht | ugh |
| 05:36.53 | sag_ich_nicht | without it's own mask it's kinda hard to ban |
| 05:37.00 | Kaelten | sylvanaar: you got to be shitting me? |
| 05:37.05 | ScytheBlade1 | There is nothing different from the requests it sends, from any other IE7 (or 6, if that is what is installed) user |
| 05:37.10 | sag_ich_nicht | Kaelten: well, not hypercard |
| 05:37.13 | sag_ich_nicht | Revolution |
| 05:37.18 | sylvanaar | Kaelten http://www.runrev.com/home/product-family/ |
| 05:37.21 | sag_ich_nicht | which is just hypercard with more syntax and functions. |
| 05:37.27 | Kaelten | :s |
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| 05:37.54 | sylvanaar | that doesnt change the fact that its Hypercard! |
| 05:38.24 | ScytheBlade1 | User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 6.0; SLCC1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; Media Center PC 5.0; .NET CLR 3.0.04506; .NET CLR 1.1.4322) |
| 05:38.34 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ nothing out of the ordinary |
| 05:38.40 | Thrae | Hmmm, #wowi-lounge became #wowuidev? |
| 05:38.49 | sylvanaar | no |
| 05:38.59 | Cairenn | Thrae: yes |
| 05:39.04 | sylvanaar | WoWUIDev |
| 05:39.18 | Cairenn | you don't need to change anything though, I made it painless for everyone, it auto-forwards |
| 05:39.55 | Thrae | sylvanaar: IRC doesn't normally differentiate between capitalization ;) |
| 05:40.10 | sylvanaar | i know, i was trying to be funny |
| 05:40.26 | Thrae | WoWLuaircBot: I see you had no trouble. |
| 05:40.27 | Cairenn | Thrae: the reason people are emphasizing that is because they don't want it to be confused with incgamers |
| 05:40.55 | Thrae | Cairenn: Is there a "community" channel too? |
| 05:41.05 | Cairenn | ? |
| 05:41.51 | Thrae | Well, I finda find it strange to change the name of the channel unless you're trying to separate the channel into a "developer's / tweakers channel" and a "wowinterface / wow ui community channel" |
| 05:42.20 | Thrae | Especially since, as you said, this channel name could get confused with incgamers ^^; |
| 05:42.24 | Duman | hoa |
| 05:42.27 | Duman | xperl in wowace now |
| 05:42.28 | Duman | nice |
| 05:42.34 | Cairenn | it was changed because some people were bitching that the old name made it seem like the channel was site specific |
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| 05:43.18 | Cairenn | so it was to appease that |
| 05:43.38 | Tekkub | that's a stupid reason |
| 05:43.52 | Cairenn | I got tired of the bitching |
| 05:43.58 | sylvanaar | elapsed time: 0.45s |
| 05:43.59 | Cairenn | and that is a valid reason |
| 05:44.01 | Tekkub | well I don't like it |
| 05:44.15 | Thrae | Heh. Now it seems like you're appeasing the addon developers instead of the wow ui community at large, by adding "dev". Of course, if you didn't add "dev", then it'd be confused with incgamers. Even |
| 05:44.20 | Thrae | "wowui-lounge" |
| 05:44.36 | Cairenn | I can't win for losing though, as you see, now people are bitching about the channel change |
| 05:44.40 | Cairenn | :p |
| 05:44.43 | Thrae | Ah, sorry, not trying to be critical. |
| 05:44.43 | sylvanaar | Cairenn you cant win, these guy's are pros |
| 05:44.52 | Tekkub | RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE! |
| 05:44.57 | Cairenn | well, the lounge always was for authors, not users |
| 05:45.48 | Cairenn | it's no big deal, really |
| 05:46.37 | MentalPower | #WoWUIDev was also already there as a channel, ever since the WoWUIDev hostmasks were created |
| 05:46.49 | Cairenn | yep |
| 05:47.25 | Cairenn | and if changing the channel name makes people feel like it is somehow "more inclusive", "less site specific", then fine |
| 05:47.38 | Cairenn | the name really doesn't mean jack shit to me, I'm fine with whatever |
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| 05:47.56 | kd3 | can we move to #wowquitbitchingit'sjustaname? |
| 05:48.05 | Cairenn | works for me |
| 05:48.19 | Tekkub | #pound |
| 05:48.22 | Thrae | #cairenns-fanclub |
| 05:48.26 | ScytheBlade1 | So I was about to type my thoughts on the matter out in a single line and say "but whining sucks" |
| 05:48.32 | Tekkub | #OMGWOWUI |
| 05:48.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Then kd3 pre-empetively owned me |
| 05:48.39 | ScytheBlade1 | So I'll just shut up :) |
| 05:49.24 | Thrae | Better -- #cairenns-harem. It's alliterative. |
| 05:49.30 | Cairenn | lol |
| 05:49.47 | MentalPower | lol |
| 05:49.47 | Tekkub | #nerdboobieshere |
| 05:50.08 | Cairenn | hahahhaa |
| 05:50.21 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:50.22 | kd3 | there are no girls on the intertubes, so I'd kinda be worried |
| 05:50.24 | Thrae | Tekkub: A lot of nerds do have big boobies...sadly, a lot of nerds are also male... |
| 05:50.33 | MentalPower | ~irc |
| 05:50.33 | purl | "Welcome to IRC: where the men are men, the women are men, and the little girls are FBI agents." |
| 05:50.36 | ScytheBlade1 | 01:50 < ScytheBlade1> /flee |
| 05:53.56 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:53.56 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:53.56 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:53.56 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:53.56 | Cairenn | O RLY? |
| 05:54.02 | ScytheBlade1 | lo |
| 05:54.04 | ScytheBlade1 | +; |
| 05:54.07 | ScytheBlade1 | -;+l |
| 05:54.42 | sylvanaar | #tictactoe |
| 05:55.06 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:55.09 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:55.13 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:55.26 | kd3 | >.>; |
| 05:55.30 | kd3 | huzzah! hayate 51's finally done |
| 05:55.36 | kd3 | time to bail |
| 05:55.46 | MentalPower | ~thrime |
| 05:55.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, just in case woamtrix is actually a mad data harvesting operation |
| 05:55.50 | ScytheBlade1 | kyle@ksb ~ $ wget 'http://swupdate.wowmatrix.com/s/t.cgi?ssv=QUIT+HARVESTING+OUR+INFORMATION&lang=ENU' --delete-after |
| 05:55.53 | ScytheBlade1 | I have done my part |
| 05:55.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Time to sleep |
| 05:56.14 | MentalPower | bah, can't remember the factoid |
| 05:56.34 | sylvanaar | 0................................|........10 |
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| 05:56.59 | sylvanaar | how can we make purl do ratings using an ascii graph like that |
| 05:58.02 | MentalPower | ~nickometer sylvanaar |
| 05:58.08 | MentalPower | ~nickometer ScytheBlade1 |
| 05:58.23 | MentalPower | ~literal nickometer |
| 05:58.27 | Tem | ~nickometer MentalPower |
| 05:58.34 | MentalPower | ~factinfo nickometer |
| 05:58.35 | purl | MentalPower: there's no such factoid as nickometer |
| 05:58.39 | sylvanaar | ~nickometer sag_ich_nicht |
| 05:58.48 | MentalPower | ah, its built-in |
| 05:59.22 | sylvanaar | purl: no 'sag_ich_nicht' is 1000.000% lame |
| 05:59.22 | purl | sylvanaar: what are you talking about? |
| 05:59.55 | sag_ich_nicht | ~nickometer sag_ich_nicht |
| 05:59.58 | sylvanaar | she can be so useless |
| 05:59.59 | sag_ich_nicht | QQ |
| 06:00.03 | Yssaril | ~sag_ich_nicht |
| 06:00.03 | purl | methinks sag_ich_nicht is <sag_ich_nicht> ckknight: no, because i'm a retard |
| 06:00.14 | sylvanaar | ~sylvanaar |
| 06:00.14 | purl | ERROR: stack overflow. |
| 06:00.18 | Yssaril | rofl |
| 06:00.24 | Tem | ~exception sylvanaar |
| 06:00.24 | purl | ACTION throws a NullPointerException at sylvanaar. |
| 06:00.29 | Recluse | Anyone know of an addon which lets me set up aliases for things i type in the chat box (regardless of channel), replacing one word with another/several? |
| 06:00.47 | sylvanaar | can i rethrow tem? |
| 06:00.59 | Yssaril | ~yssaril |
| 06:01.01 | Tem | you didn't declare throws imo |
| 06:01.25 | Tem | ~emulate saien |
| 06:01.26 | purl | I could have helped you, but I won't. |
| 06:01.34 | Tem | ah, good stuff |
| 06:01.43 | sylvanaar | haha |
| 06:02.09 | MentalPower | Recluse: tried prat? |
| 06:03.18 | sylvanaar | prat does just about everything now besides type for you |
| 06:03.21 | Recluse | Well, I have prat installed, and I know it has something that's... similar, but it seemed like it was more about things like %t = target name, but more complex |
| 06:03.41 | sylvanaar | module name is "alias" |
| 06:03.51 | sylvanaar | or "customfilters" |
| 06:03.59 | sylvanaar | one or the other depending on what you meant |
| 06:05.10 | sylvanaar | use customfilters/outbound for text you are sending |
| 06:05.51 | Recluse | (non-realistic example) well say i typed "/2 WTS [someitem]" and i wanted it to actually say "/2 Want to sell [someitem]". i hadn't looked at the customfilter thing, will that do such a thing? |
| 06:06.05 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 06:06.34 | sylvanaar | customfilter, outbound, match"WTS" replacewith "Want to sell" |
| 06:07.15 | Recluse | do i need to use the Lua wannabe regex, or just plain text? |
| 06:07.52 | sylvanaar | or you can use alias /alias /sell /2 WTS |
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| 06:07.55 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+v ckknight_] by ChanServ |
| 06:08.08 | sylvanaar | then /sell [someitem] |
| 06:09.16 | Recluse | well, it would be ...in-line, not a static thing, but aliases would come in handy for sure. i'll play with the customfilter thing, it might just work out. |
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| 06:10.27 | sylvanaar | the only limitation on customfilters, is that i dont have any way for you to limit the channels that are filtered |
| 06:10.36 | Fisker- | ~nickmeter sylvanaar |
| 06:10.37 | purl | sylvanaar is 100% lame with a cherry on top! |
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| 06:11.40 | sylvanaar | purl: no nickmeter sylvanaar is 100% less lame than Fisker- |
| 06:11.41 | purl | okay, sylvanaar |
| 06:11.52 | sylvanaar | ~nickmeter sylvanaar |
| 06:11.53 | purl | sylvanaar is 100% lame with a cherry on top! |
| 06:12.00 | sylvanaar | ~fail |
| 06:12.17 | Fisker- | fail indeed |
| 06:12.43 | sylvanaar | purl: nickmeter sylvanaar is 100% less lame than Fisker- |
| 06:12.43 | purl | sylvanaar is 100% less lame than Fisker- is 100% lame with a cherry on top! |
| 06:13.03 | sylvanaar | purl: forget nickmeter sylvanaar |
| 06:13.03 | purl | sylvanaar: i forgot nickmeter sylvanaar |
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| 06:13.10 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+v ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 06:13.26 | Fisker- | ~nickmeter sylvanaar |
| 06:13.27 | purl | sylvanaar is 100% lame with a cherry on top! |
| 06:13.32 | Fisker- | awesome |
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| 06:15.05 | sylvanaar | Recluse you can use patterns or plain strings |
| 06:15.45 | Recluse | sylvanaar: also, with this customfilter will it match case-insensitive but preserve the case for output, or no? |
| 06:16.00 | sylvanaar | Recluse i dont remember |
| 06:16.06 | Recluse | kk |
| 06:16.11 | sylvanaar | probably not |
| 06:16.36 | sylvanaar | you may need to do [Aa][Bb] etc |
| 06:17.15 | Recluse | yeah :) i will have to do some testing, i think. so far, it looks like it might do the trick. |
| 06:19.12 | sylvanaar | here is an exmaple from one of blizzard's gems: command:match("^(#%s*[Ss][Hh][Oo][Ww][Tt][Oo][Oo][Ll][Tt][Ii][Pp]:*)%s[^%s]") |
| 06:19.43 | sylvanaar | ok nn, work tomorrow |
| 06:19.52 | Cairenn | night sylvanaar |
| 06:20.22 | Recluse | ah, yep, it matches case sensitive |
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| 06:40.42 | Shirik | ACTIVATION_CONTEXT_SECTION_KEYED_DATA_FLAG_FOUND_IN_SYSTEM_DEFAULT |
| 06:40.45 | Shirik | that is one hell of a constant name |
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| 06:41.11 | zenzio | indeed |
| 06:42.06 | Shirik | lol, I take it back |
| 06:42.09 | Shirik | this is one of their function names |
| 06:42.20 | Shirik | RtlpQueryFilesInAssemblyInformationActivationContextDetailedInformation |
| 06:43.39 | Thrae | CamelIZation solves all OOD problems! |
| 06:48.14 | Nom- | ooOOOOOooOOoooo |
| 06:48.28 | Nom- | beta.worldofwarcraft.com forwards to /game/character-copy.html |
| 06:48.32 | Nom- | and then sez forbidden |
| 06:50.24 | Fisker- | oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooold news is ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooold |
| 06:50.25 | Fisker- | etc. |
| 06:51.26 | Recluse | lol |
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| 07:05.04 | Nom- | Except it used to be 404, Fisker- |
| 07:05.08 | Nom- | Now it's forbidden |
| 07:09.17 | WobWork | it's been 403 for a few weeks now |
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| 07:10.01 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 07:10.10 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+v Guillotine] by ChanServ |
| 07:10.37 | Fisker- | even been on mmo-champion.com |
| 07:10.45 | Fisker- | was even 403 a day or 2 before that |
| 07:10.49 | Fisker- | also |
| 07:10.57 | Bibi | OH MY GOD 493 ERROR |
| 07:10.58 | Fisker- | rumors say that the site was up for a moment |
| 07:11.02 | Fisker- | definitely Bibi |
| 07:11.04 | Fisker- | also |
| 07:11.08 | Fisker- | stop having mmo-champion on highlight |
| 07:11.27 | Bibi | :( |
| 07:11.49 | Shirik | should totally do a 493 error |
| 07:11.59 | Fisker- | we should harass any and all blizzard employees for keys |
| 07:12.17 | Shirik | header(HTTP/1.1 493 Page Eaten By Cairenn) |
| 07:12.30 | Cairenn | rofl |
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| 07:14.14 | NightHawkTheSane | wee.. .bloodboil to 50% |
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| 07:32.40 | Thrae | !c eu dragonmaw throgdor |
| 07:32.51 | Thrae | Damn Armoury changes catching me off-guard. |
| 07:41.22 | leethal | moving a frame 100 points a second is easy. Moving it the equivalent of 100 points in some direction (say, 172º), not up/down/left/right sucks, though, grr. |
| 07:41.53 | Nom- | A nice change has been made to the official site, http://beta.worldofwarcraft.com is now working ! Well it's not really working, but it's effectively redirecting people to http://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/game/character-copy.html on the server. Before yesterday it was only showing a 404 error, this could be the sign of an imminent opening of beta signups and it wouldn't be the first time something like this happens, the Wrath of the Lich King website was "detect |
| 07:42.27 | Nom- | I hope it's close |
| 07:42.36 | Nom- | I can't wait to see how badly they fsck up Paladins |
| 07:42.37 | Cairenn | "first time something like this happens, the Wrath of the Lich King website was "detect" |
| 07:42.42 | Cairenn | is where you cut off |
| 07:42.43 | Nom- | Just as well i'm levelling a druid :P |
| 07:42.57 | Thrae | They might be using the delay of Warhammer and other impending MMORPGs to push WotLK further into the light. |
| 07:42.59 | Nom- | ed" a few days before the Blizzcon using the same method. |
| 07:43.13 | leethal | let's start a dictionary attack for URI's on http://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/, we might discover secrets! |
| 07:43.45 | Fisker- | Nom- obviously |
| 07:43.57 | Thrae | That's what I do when new patches come out -- poll wowinterface.com 1000 times per second until that addon that hasn't been updated since 2007 finally gets its update! |
| 07:44.00 | Fisker- | they're probably gonna über and then nerf us into oblivion again |
| 07:45.55 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 07:46.41 | leethal | kinda nub of blizz, wazzup with not doing mv conf conf.old && mv new_conf conf && apachectl graceful |
| 07:46.52 | leethal | oh hai, I talk like I'm a regular in here, if you don't mind |
| 07:47.08 | Thrae | People laughed at me when I suggested "Heroic Mode Azeroth" for Wrath of the Lich King. I think it's genius -- take all that HUGE old content people skip by trying to get to 70, and just upgrade the levels and rewards. |
| 07:47.45 | Fisker- | nevar gonna happen! |
| 07:47.50 | nevcairiel | i pretty much did all the old content when going to 70, except sucky zones like silithus |
| 07:47.52 | Thrae | Of course, this is the same design team that thought World of Warcraft initially came with a suitable PvP environment, so it's doubtful |
| 07:47.54 | nevcairiel | on my alt |
| 07:48.21 | leethal | hey, pvp got buffed a lot with the halaa daily |
| 07:48.39 | nevcairiel | i did the spirit towers daily yesterday |
| 07:48.46 | nevcairiel | some l66 horde mage stole one |
| 07:49.22 | Nom- | lol |
| 07:49.33 | Nom- | for the first time in 3 characters i'm actually going through WPL |
| 07:49.34 | Nom- | XD |
| 07:49.53 | Nom- | I haven't been to WPL and EPL since levelling my mage |
| 07:50.04 | Nom- | My paladin went to outland without having to go there |
| 07:50.06 | Nom- | So did my hunter |
| 07:50.28 | Nom- | I'm skipping sillyplace and going straight to WPL and EPL on my Druid |
| 07:50.59 | nevcairiel | levelign is so much faster if you just do the easy and fast quests in all zones, and skip the silly ones |
| 07:51.06 | nevcairiel | so i visited all zones |
| 07:51.09 | nevcairiel | and did all half .P |
| 07:51.28 | leethal | I love being through WPL, used to spend lots of time there in 1.x |
| 07:51.34 | leethal | WPL/EPL |
| 07:52.35 | Nom- | Well so far so good |
| 07:52.44 | Nom- | I'm level 57 and just finished WPL |
| 07:53.02 | Nom- | I've only done a couple of quests in Winterspring and Sillyplace |
| 07:53.35 | leethal | good ol' sillyplace, I wish the sunwell opening stuff felt as epic as the AQ opening event |
| 07:53.50 | Nom- | AQ opening was worldwide mahn |
| 07:53.59 | Nom- | It was the shizzle |
| 07:54.21 | Nom- | I missed it on my server, but I saw it on the PTR once |
| 07:54.23 | leethal | kind of cool that one person had to do the quests, too |
| 07:54.25 | Nom- | All these mobs all over the place |
| 07:54.31 | leethal | yarr, and the music! |
| 07:54.46 | Nom- | and the fricken giants swarming all over |
| 07:55.02 | leethal | was only at the event, when you were fighting the nerubian big boys, they added it as cenarion expedition music in 2.0, though =/ |
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| 08:01.12 | Nom- | Yeah, there were mobs in even like the barrens |
| 08:01.26 | Nom- | which dropped heaps of never-to-be-seen-again greens and blues |
| 08:02.15 | |Pixel| | leethal: as epic and as server-crashing you mean ? :) |
| 08:02.20 | MentalPower | !lua print("foo") |
| 08:02.20 | batbot | MentalPower: foo |
| 08:02.36 | leethal | |Pixel|: haha yeah, true |
| 08:02.55 | leethal | reason world pvp never works: servers crash when there's more than 100 people at one spot, outdoors |
| 08:03.07 | leethal | but I guess they has to fix that for 3.0, with the siege stuff and stuff |
| 08:03.23 | Nom- | lol i beg to differ let |
| 08:03.26 | Nom- | leethal: |
| 08:03.46 | Nom- | I've seen on our server 2+ full raid groups alliance side with 5+ full raid groups horde side |
| 08:03.55 | Nom- | In halaalalaa |
| 08:04.35 | Nom- | That kind of stuff happens when there's a 4:1 horde:alliance ratio XD |
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| 08:04.58 | leethal | woot, gotta be some weird US server |
| 08:05.05 | Nom- | heck no |
| 08:05.09 | Nom- | oceanic |
| 08:05.12 | leethal | all europe servers except maghteridon has waay to many hordies |
| 08:05.15 | leethal | oh, right, even weirder! |
| 08:05.30 | Jinivus | Heya |
| 08:05.37 | Nom- | A to H Ratio: 1 : 3.4 |
| 08:05.47 | Nom- | That's at level 70 |
| 08:06.02 | Kalroth | uhm, we're 25-30% horde on my server |
| 08:06.13 | Nom- | which server ? |
| 08:06.17 | Kalroth | fuckload of night elf hunter/rogues |
| 08:06.17 | nevcairiel | leethal: that cant be right, my server has way too much alliance |
| 08:06.19 | Kalroth | Stormrage |
| 08:06.30 | nevcairiel | in fact, my full battlegroup has too much alliance |
| 08:06.31 | Nom- | A to H Ratio: 2.9 : 1 |
| 08:06.36 | leethal | oh, ya |
| 08:06.41 | leethal | s/waay to many hordies/waay to many allies/ |
| 08:06.46 | Kalroth | yes, 3 alliance per 1 horde |
| 08:07.16 | leethal | hey, purl! it has to be your previous message if you want to use that fancy vim command? |
| 08:07.36 | Kalroth | Yup |
| 08:07.45 | leethal | purl has long term memory |
| 08:07.52 | Kalroth | s/Yup/It is always the last sentence!/ |
| 08:07.53 | leethal | s/long term/short term/ |
| 08:08.02 | leethal | weird sentence anyway, I failz |
| 08:08.14 | nevcairiel | s/failz/suck/ |
| 08:08.32 | Kalroth | s/suck/nevca/ |
| 08:08.37 | nevcairiel | too bad it doesnt work on the last sentence in channel as well |
| 08:08.39 | leethal | s/eri/ously/ |
| 08:08.46 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 08:10.19 | Fisker- | cloverfield sucks |
| 08:10.20 | Shirik | so you know those crystals you charge with mana remnants? |
| 08:10.29 | Fisker- | How can the camera run on battery for that long?! |
| 08:10.30 | Shirik | apparently the little spark they shoot at you, if it jumps to a guard, the guard kills you |
| 08:11.14 | Fisker- | cool |
| 08:11.14 | Fisker- | :D |
| 08:11.59 | leethal | what attacks NY in cloverfield? monstard? |
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| 08:12.41 | Fisker- | it's nevcairiel's final form that attacks |
| 08:12.54 | Recluse | iirc, yes - some godzilla spinoff monster or something |
| 08:13.17 | leethal | is the monster seen at all in the film? |
| 08:14.07 | Kalroth | Cloverfield rocks, you're so fucked up, Fisker! |
| 08:14.35 | Fisker- | yeah leethal |
| 08:14.39 | Fisker- | it's nevcairiel's final form |
| 08:14.43 | Fisker- | Kalroth UNREALISTIC OMG |
| 08:14.51 | Kalroth | .. |
| 08:14.58 | leethal | zamg, emo |
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| 08:15.13 | Kalroth | A movie about a monster that isn't realistic? GASP!! |
| 08:15.28 | leethal | so it's all footage from people's own cameras, action version of blair witch? |
| 08:15.36 | Fisker- | atleast sofar |
| 08:15.52 | Fisker- | it's totally unrealistic this guys camera haven't run out of batteries yet |
| 08:16.06 | Kalroth | He gets a new battery in the store |
| 08:16.12 | leethal | oh is it only one guys camera? |
| 08:16.20 | Fisker- | never Kalroth |
| 08:16.28 | Fisker- | sofar leethal |
| 08:16.44 | leethal | not released/expecting a sequel? |
| 08:17.02 | leethal | from my questions, you can gather that I'm that guy that asks everyone "is that one on the right the bad guy" when I see a movie |
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| 08:24.18 | Jinivus | If i wanted to search a string variable for a partial chunk of text, and return true if it finds it, what would be the easiest way, if any |
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| 08:24.59 | MentalPower | Jinivus: string.find() |
| 08:28.54 | Jinivus | kk, so how would i use that to say... find "battleground" in the variable named "bgtext" string.find(bgtext, "Battleground")?? |
| 08:30.20 | MentalPower | ~lua |
| 08:30.21 | purl | Lua is a powerful light-weight programming language designed for extending applications. It is often used as a configuration language. See http://www.lua.org/. Note: Lua is not an acronym its a word in Portuguese that means "moon". |
| 08:30.26 | MentalPower | ~luamanual |
| 08:30.33 | batrick | ~oya |
| 08:30.40 | batrick | oi shirik |
| 08:30.40 | Laraul | yeah... it return the start and ending indecies |
| 08:30.51 | batrick | I expect filumlunaris to be fully functional tomorrow! =) |
| 08:30.57 | MentalPower | purl luamanual is <reply>http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/ |
| 08:30.57 | purl | okay, MentalPower |
| 08:31.04 | MentalPower | ~luamanual |
| 08:31.04 | purl | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/ |
| 08:31.25 | leethal | I love print to pdf |
| 08:31.31 | Jinivus | tyvm |
| 08:31.32 | Laraul | I suggest buying the manual |
| 08:31.33 | MentalPower | purl no, luamanual is <reply>Please read http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/ for the answer to your questions |
| 08:31.33 | purl | okay, MentalPower |
| 08:31.37 | MentalPower | ~luamanual |
| 08:31.38 | purl | Please read http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/ for the answer to your questions |
| 08:32.15 | MentalPower | ~pil |
| 08:32.16 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 08:32.17 | Wobin_ | http://www.cinematical.com/2008/04/06/one-million-signatures-and-uwe-boll-will-quit-making-movies/ |
| 08:32.19 | Wobin_ | Go. |
| 08:32.20 | Wobin_ | Sign. |
| 08:32.21 | Wobin_ | Now. |
| 08:32.21 | Laraul | How about a little more specific... |
| 08:34.59 | Cairenn | night MentalPower|ZzZz |
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| 08:37.10 | Cairenn | hmmm, sign with my rl name or my online name (which almost feels more real a lot of times) |
| 08:37.45 | nevcairiel | use both for double win! |
| 08:37.51 | batrick | no u |
| 08:38.21 | batrick | man |
| 08:38.37 | batrick | whenever i listen to music i had playing while in wow i remember what i was doing in wow |
| 08:38.42 | batrick | it doesn't help resisting it =( |
| 08:38.43 | Fisker- | AND AGAIN Kalroth |
| 08:38.44 | Cairenn | well, it's up to 30k so far, just need another 970k more |
| 08:38.50 | MentalPower|ZzZz | first time XULRunner crashes on me |
| 08:38.52 | MentalPower|ZzZz | anyways, gnight all |
| 08:38.54 | MentalPower|ZzZz | gnight Cairenn |
| 08:38.56 | MentalPower|ZzZz | shouldn't you be in bed? |
| 08:39.03 | batrick | Cairenn doesn't sleep |
| 08:39.06 | Cairenn | why? it's only 20 to 5 |
| 08:39.32 | MentalPower|ZzZz | am |
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| 08:39.53 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 08:40.14 | MentalPower|ZzZz | nm, lost cause :P |
| 08:40.18 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 08:40.21 | Cairenn | sweet dreams |
| 08:40.29 | MentalPower|ZzZz | you too (when you get to them) |
| 08:41.05 | cladhaire | *stab* |
| 08:41.06 | cladhaire | http://www.wowinterface.com/portal.php?id=8&a=viewbug&bugid=4416 |
| 08:42.56 | nevcairiel | cladhaire: bloat!!11 |
| 08:43.10 | cladhaire | he's the first person who has ever called one of my addons bloated. |
| 08:43.10 | foxlit | zomgyouraddoncontainsmorethanonelineofcodenerfitnow! |
| 08:43.22 | Fisker- | ARGH Kalroth |
| 08:43.23 | Jinivus | <3 TomTom |
| 08:43.27 | Fisker- | NO CLOSURE :< |
| 08:49.22 | leethal | perfect raid is so bloated compared to xperl |
| 08:50.05 | Thrae | "Bloated"? |
| 08:50.22 | nevcairiel | imho xperl is bloated |
| 08:50.26 | wereHamster | I always found perfectraid a small addon, never used xperl though |
| 08:50.59 | leethal | it was a joke =P |
| 08:51.00 | Laraul | why do ppl make such huge overhalls to the interface? |
| 08:51.06 | leethal | xperl is, like, uhm, B L O A T |
| 08:51.15 | batrick | night all |
| 08:51.50 | leethal | I wish I could find a way to play without action bars, would be awesome |
| 08:52.56 | Laraul | They need to add control support... but that would need to be added... |
| 08:53.48 | wereHamster | 'control support', what is that? |
| 08:54.21 | Laraul | Controller... dual analog sticks + d-pad + 10 buttons... |
| 08:56.12 | leethal | I tried to remove action bars and use some cooldown bar thingie, but it sucked not to be able to see if you were in range or not |
| 08:56.32 | cladhaire | range-meter :P |
| 08:57.39 | AbsoRayne | Is Parrot still bugged? |
| 08:57.50 | leethal | hasn't been updated for 2.4 afaik |
| 08:57.53 | leethal | or has it? |
| 08:58.50 | mikma | cladhaire: lolbloat!! |
| 08:58.55 | cladhaire | I NO |
| 09:00.00 | wereHamster | how do I set the content-type of .js files to utf8 in apache? is that even possible? |
| 09:01.04 | wereHamster | ~bloat |
| 09:01.04 | purl | "GCC is the only one [GNU Software] that I really care about. A number of them I hate with a passion; the Emacs editor is horrible, for example. While Linux is larger than Emacs, at least Linux has the excuse that it needs to be." -- Linus Torvalds (father of Linux), or see emacs |
| 09:01.20 | wereHamster | I wouldn't expect such answer o.0 |
| 09:07.04 | leethal | ~emacs |
| 09:07.05 | purl | i guess emacs is as useless as vim if you don't wanna learn it |
| 09:08.19 | cladhaire | lol |
| 09:09.45 | leethal | purl, textmate is <reply>Textmate is the winner of the editor war |
| 09:09.45 | purl | okay, leethal |
| 09:10.29 | mikma | lol this is cruel naziaddon: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8653-1.0.html |
| 09:10.52 | Laraul | leethal do you know how to make bundles? |
| 09:11.15 | leethal | no, but I'm a snippet/macro whore, though |
| 09:11.38 | Laraul | what font do you use? |
| 09:12.00 | Laraul | the default Courier 12pt? |
| 09:12.03 | leethal | mikma: yarrrrrrr I is a RP-er |
| 09:12.19 | leethal | Laraul: is it Courier by default? Hmz, I use the-other-monospaced-font, isn't it monacco or something? |
| 09:12.38 | Laraul | Monaco doesn't contains styles for bold, italic, etc |
| 09:12.54 | leethal | does here |
| 09:12.56 | Laraul | It just has "Plain" |
| 09:13.06 | leethal | comments are in italic |
| 09:13.09 | leethal | etc. |
| 09:13.09 | mikma | leethal: its not that i hate that addon, i think i'm gonna install it! |
| 09:13.28 | Laraul | Are u SURE u are using Monoco? |
| 09:15.51 | leethal | Laraul: http://skitch.com/leethal/jbgy/textmate-settings |
| 09:16.27 | leethal | also, I need to make a mod that has a pref pane, cause the new addon prefpane thingies in 2.4 wins =D |
| 09:17.03 | Laraul | u use sunburst? |
| 09:17.17 | leethal | a bit modified, but ya |
| 09:17.26 | Thrae | Sunburst? Taste the rainbow? |
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| 09:20.22 | leethal | "When someone acts like their life is over because of something stupid." |
| 09:21.01 | Wobin_ | leethal: "What is, the Internet" |
| 09:21.12 | Wobin_ | (Thanks Alex.) |
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| 09:42.50 | leethal | lol @ todays xkcd |
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| 09:53.05 | Jinivus | any easy way to enable and disable your mod ingame with a command? |
| 10:02.16 | haste | you can use DisableAddOn and EanbleAddOn, it will require you to reload the UI however |
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| 10:03.48 | Jinivus | hmmm |
| 10:04.01 | Jinivus | so other than that id have to add if thens to stuff? |
| 10:07.15 | haste | you can use the name also |
| 10:07.53 | Fisker- | i am going to kill you haste |
| 10:08.02 | haste | then you have to find me first! |
| 10:08.09 | Fisker- | if you had been there we would've been in phase 3 yesterday |
| 10:08.17 | Fisker- | *cries* |
| 10:08.19 | haste | hah! |
| 10:08.24 | haste | I'm doing dailys now tho' :p |
| 10:08.35 | Fisker- | you're dead |
| 10:08.40 | haste | while pondering if I should buy another account |
| 10:09.20 | haste | buy another account -> transfer rogue to horde on RC -> transfer gold over to alliance -> buy epic mount -> ???? |
| 10:09.57 | haste | so.. sick of the 60% flying |
| 10:10.19 | mikma | haste: do the new dailies |
| 10:10.26 | mikma | it's 150g+ each day |
| 10:10.30 | haste | I do, but I can only do them five days a week! |
| 10:10.31 | mikma | + the old ones = 100g |
| 10:10.42 | haste | and I can't do all the old ones on this char :( |
| 10:10.48 | haste | I can on my rogue however |
| 10:11.00 | haste | it's exalted with most places :p |
| 10:11.01 | mikma | oh, right |
| 10:11.06 | mikma | different servers |
| 10:11.21 | haste | which is why I'm thinking of buying another account |
| 10:11.51 | mikma | i actually managed to grind 2 epic mounts in a short time. i have no idea how i did that |
| 10:12.22 | mikma | the moment i hit lvl70 with duck i had the money to buy epicmount for him, which is.. weird when it comes to the fact that it's me |
| 10:12.40 | nevcairiel | leveling always made alot of money |
| 10:12.57 | haste | I leveled tailoring and enchanting on a server I didn't have any chars on before |
| 10:12.58 | Fisker- | :( |
| 10:13.06 | Fisker- | arcane charges doesn't work on players |
| 10:13.15 | haste | I think I'm lucky to have over 2k gold when I hit 70 |
| 10:13.40 | Fisker- | i can't find you btw |
| 10:13.49 | mikma | Fisker-: boom. 25k damage on player |
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| 10:15.30 | haste | in other news |
| 10:15.38 | haste | I really love the shader you get on the phase daily :p |
| 10:16.52 | mikma | the BEM quest? |
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| 10:17.48 | haste | yes |
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| 10:20.00 | mikma | haste: mages have the same effect when you use invisivility |
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| 10:20.58 | bl4q | hi |
| 10:21.26 | haste | mikma: I thought it was more blue |
| 10:21.48 | mikma | haste: well i'm not 100% sure about that one, haven't touched my mage in months |
| 10:22.32 | Fisker- | i believe it's all teh same |
| 10:23.07 | Fisker- | i believe it was blue before TBC though |
| 10:23.39 | mikma | mages didn't have invis before tbc |
| 10:23.48 | mikma | (in beta was different thing) |
| 10:24.41 | Fisker- | there were invisibility before TBC n00b |
| 10:25.05 | mikma | waiting for proof now |
| 10:25.15 | MoonWolf | yeah, in old beta's |
| 10:25.18 | MoonWolf | not even in public beta |
| 10:25.51 | mikma | wasn't it like the nelf racial? |
| 10:25.55 | mikma | stand still and no duration |
| 10:28.37 | nevcairiel | nah thats shadowmeld |
| 10:28.40 | nevcairiel | thats just stealth |
| 10:29.16 | mikma | i think it was AnduinLothar who pasted an early beta picture with mage invisibility |
| 10:29.57 | bl4q | is it possible to /stopcasting or SpellStopCasting() via ScheduleTimer(,,,)? |
| 10:30.28 | nevcairiel | no |
| 10:30.30 | mikma | won't that require a hardware event |
| 10:30.32 | bl4q | :( |
| 10:30.49 | nevcairiel | its secure code, can only be used in macros |
| 10:31.46 | Fisker- | can i make a bot in macros? |
| 10:32.48 | mikma | yes |
| 10:32.56 | mikma | other thing is will it work... |
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| 10:36.16 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 10:36.24 | cladhaire | has anyone made itemreftooltip-like objects? |
| 10:37.01 | haste | AceGUI complains about your option table cladhaire :p |
| 10:37.04 | haste | in tomtom |
| 10:37.34 | cladhaire | oro? |
| 10:37.37 | cladhaire | since when |
| 10:37.46 | cladhaire | i get no complaints |
| 10:38.46 | haste | 1236.40| AceGUI: Warning, Widget type ScrollFrame uses the deprecated Aquire, this should be updated to Acquire |
| 10:38.50 | haste | 1236.48| AceGUI: Warning, Widget type CheckBox uses the deprecated Aquire, this should be updated to Acquire |
| 10:38.58 | haste | so only warnings |
| 10:38.58 | reqol | is there any documentation on the new COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED event? or does wowwiki have all I could ask for on it's COMBAT_LOG_EVENT page? |
| 10:39.10 | [Ammo] | haste: means you have some kind of ancient AceGUI lying around |
| 10:39.15 | [Ammo] | haste: which gets loaded first |
| 10:39.25 | cladhaire | yep |
| 10:39.30 | haste | bad lib updating is bad? |
| 10:39.42 | cladhaire | indeed, don't get me started |
| 10:39.43 | haste | anyway to dump a log similar to donglestubs? |
| 10:39.56 | [Ammo] | haste: this was fixed 2 months ago |
| 10:40.04 | cladhaire | almost stopped me from using aceconfig |
| 10:40.14 | cladhaire | [Ammo]: and the fact that a lib loads first never should have caused the issue |
| 10:40.21 | [Ammo] | cladhaire: I know |
| 10:40.21 | cladhaire | since TomTom includes the most recent |
| 10:40.22 | haste | [Ammo]: I _never_ _ever_ udpate, unless I have a reason to :p |
| 10:40.24 | nevcairiel | maybe he has some _really_ old widgets that didnt upgrade yet |
| 10:40.34 | nevcairiel | thats like |
| 10:40.36 | nevcairiel | really ancient |
| 10:40.41 | haste | so! |
| 10:40.49 | haste | anyway to easily figure out which add-on? |
| 10:41.02 | nevcairiel | grep your dir tree for AceGUI |
| 10:41.43 | nevcairiel | and .zip up the offending old widgets |
| 10:41.52 | nevcairiel | so we can maybe reproduce why they dont upgrade |
| 10:42.00 | haste | why grep when you can find! |
| 10:42.08 | nevcairiel | grep your find! |
| 10:42.10 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 10:42.14 | leethal | grok grep |
| 10:43.43 | haste | har har, it's my PerfectRaid! |
| 10:43.57 | haste | but I still don't see why the lib complains, since it should be silent and so on :p |
| 10:43.58 | cladhaire | which doesn't even use it :P |
| 10:44.12 | [Ammo] | widgets didn't upgrade at the start |
| 10:44.21 | [Ammo] | if you have non-upgrading widgets lying around then the code will barf |
| 10:44.26 | [Ammo] | but that's like Pre-RC1 stuff |
| 10:44.56 | haste | PRaid has minor rev 3 here, while TomTom has minor rev 7 |
| 10:45.05 | nevcairiel | on the widgets? |
| 10:45.10 | cladhaire | lol healing in feral gear |
| 10:45.21 | haste | no, only checked the main acegui file |
| 10:45.26 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 10:45.36 | nevcairiel | zip up the acegui dir for us :) |
| 10:45.43 | [Ammo] | the broken one that is :) |
| 10:45.58 | nevcairiel | cba to figure out which revision that is on SVN :P |
| 10:47.56 | haste | cladhaire: damn you! |
| 10:48.05 | cladhaire | uhh k |
| 10:48.09 | haste | your praid rev doesn't match the releases on wowi :p |
| 10:48.20 | haste | and there's no version in the toc, so I can't be lazy and just guide them to it D: |
| 10:48.26 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 10:48.27 | cladhaire | qq? |
| 10:48.31 | haste | y |
| 10:48.38 | cladhaire | my new release process fixed post of that shit |
| 10:48.51 | nevcairiel | why does installing the VS2005 SP1 take ages |
| 10:48.52 | nevcairiel | QQ |
| 10:48.58 | Kalroth | l2p |
| 10:49.00 | nevcairiel | (longer then installing VS2005 before) |
| 10:49.42 | leethal | even myspace beats the wow forum in terms of webapp awesomeness, grr |
| 10:49.44 | haste | nevcairiel: http://hastey.pastey.net/85249-2wuq << should be enough I believe |
| 10:50.10 | nevcairiel | you're such a lazy ass :P |
| 10:50.13 | haste | yep |
| 10:54.42 | nevcairiel | is tomtom LoD or something? |
| 10:54.46 | cladhaire | no |
| 10:55.45 | nevcairiel | Only reason i can see is having old widgets already created and then upgrading the lib |
| 10:55.55 | nevcairiel | but if its not LoD |
| 10:56.41 | cladhaire | its not :P |
| 10:56.45 | cladhaire | imo |
| 10:57.00 | haste | everything here is as distributed :p |
| 10:57.07 | haste | I'm too lazy to disembeed and use LoD managers |
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| 11:17.39 | leethal | lod = level of detail? |
| 11:18.17 | Drundia | in that case it's probably load on demand |
| 11:18.41 | Kalroth | lenght of d .. actually, nm. |
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| 11:33.01 | reqol | could I apply everything that is on the COMBAT_LOG_EVENT page to the COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED event? trying to decipher the new combat log >_> |
| 11:33.56 | nevcairiel | yes the events are the same essentially |
| 11:39.22 | JoshBorke | ~lart cladhaire |
| 11:39.22 | purl | nukes cladhaire with a single large nuke |
| 11:39.29 | JoshBorke | ~lart clad|office |
| 11:39.29 | purl | dumps 42 tons of dirt, manure, and fish heads on clad|office |
| 11:39.33 | JoshBorke | morning claddy waddy |
| 11:40.04 | cladhaire | ding 46 |
| 11:40.06 | cladhaire | morning |
| 11:41.59 | JoshBorke | grats |
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| 12:01.24 | reqol | I don't really understand the COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED parameters |
| 12:02.50 | Drundia | what's your problem really? |
| 12:03.39 | dylanm | http://www.wowwiki.com/COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_Details is pretty comprehensive. |
| 12:04.16 | dylanm | Save for the part where aura events just don't have originators. |
| 12:06.28 | cladhaire | oh wow |
| 12:06.33 | cladhaire | i really dislike the new wowwiki theme |
| 12:07.06 | Industrial | I like it |
| 12:07.08 | cladhaire | meh, oh well |
| 12:07.21 | haste | I like the article layout |
| 12:07.24 | dylanm | The sidebar is kinda helpful. |
| 12:07.26 | haste | but not he navigation |
| 12:07.31 | cladhaire | the article layout is nice, yeah |
| 12:07.33 | cladhaire | the navigation is =( |
| 12:07.40 | nevcairiel | i still dont think i see a new theme |
| 12:07.42 | nevcairiel | *shrug |
| 12:07.52 | haste | it's an improvement over the old tho |
| 12:08.44 | reqol | you probably cant help me short of holding my hand throughout the entire explanation |
| 12:09.20 | dylanm | Is it the bitfields? |
| 12:10.34 | reqol | pretty much, I tried printing the parameters to chat to try to comprehend them...and I'm lost already |
| 12:11.52 | Drundia | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:11.58 | Drundia | target is target |
| 12:12.04 | cladhaire | so I have a tooltip |
| 12:12.09 | cladhaire | templated after GameTooltipTemplate |
| 12:12.13 | cladhaire | set up like ItemRefTooltip |
| 12:12.18 | Drundia | they fire with guid=0, flags=none, nil |
| 12:12.19 | cladhaire | and I can show it and it works |
| 12:12.20 | cladhaire | HOWEVER |
| 12:12.26 | dylanm | I think DevTools can show you human-readable information. |
| 12:12.28 | cladhaire | after its been hidden, I can't re-show it |
| 12:12.47 | cladhaire | and calling :Show() won't work :P |
| 12:14.23 | dylanm | Did you rewrite the text on it before you tried to show it? Did you reset the owner? |
| 12:14.32 | amro | nevcairiel: you probably have another theme set in preferences |
| 12:15.47 | cladhaire | dylanm: I'm not trying to reset the owner |
| 12:15.52 | nevcairiel | amro: whats the new theme then? |
| 12:15.59 | dylanm | I think you have to...? |
| 12:16.00 | cladhaire | since the owner is always UIParent with "ANCHOR_PRESERVE" |
| 12:16.06 | dylanm | Oooh. |
| 12:16.40 | dylanm | I've never tried that one. Cool. |
| 12:17.02 | dylanm | But don't tooltips just clear themselves completely when they're hidden? |
| 12:17.07 | cladhaire | well not cool if i can get it working L:P |
| 12:17.14 | cladhaire | well i rebuild the tooltip each time its shown |
| 12:17.23 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 12:17.25 | cladhaire | interesting |
| 12:17.29 | cladhaire | you have to fill it after you set the owner |
| 12:17.30 | cladhaire | fixed :P |
| 12:17.56 | dylanm | Every time you do anything it wipes :p |
| 12:18.49 | cladhaire | heh |
| 12:19.06 | Drundia | by the way remind me do you need to SetOwner() it between Hide() and Show()? |
| 12:19.50 | dylanm | Drundia: What did you mean by "target is target" earlier? |
| 12:21.10 | Drundia | for aura applications and fading there is no unit for source and the logical target for target-related parameters |
| 12:21.21 | Drundia | buff gains and fades swap them in blizzard combat log |
| 12:21.39 | amro | nevcairiel: check the checkbox at the bottom |
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| 12:22.24 | dylanm | Yeah that's what I was trying to get across... didn't know that fades swapped them though. |
| 12:23.08 | Drundia | they fire with timestamp, event, "0x0000000000000000", nil, 0x80000000, destGUID, destName, destFlags, ... |
| 12:24.05 | dylanm | As for the :SetOwner thing... I always call it just because Blizzard seems to. |
| 12:28.38 | Drundia | game tooltips fail..... |
| 12:31.38 | cladhaire | I'm almost out of rest experience |
| 12:31.42 | cladhaire | time to get something else done |
| 12:31.51 | cladhaire | new Clique, yay! |
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| 12:52.05 | cladhaire | can anyone think of a clever way to be able to tell that a particular line in an edit box is wrapped? |
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| 13:24.57 | Cairenn|afk | danke |
| 13:26.21 | Mikk | (pardon, really was unintended. i installed pidgin on the administrator account originally and then copied over the settings :S) |
| 13:26.47 | Cairenn|afk | no worries :) |
| 13:26.56 | Cairenn|afk | <3 |
| 13:31.55 | Drundia | <cladhaire> can anyone think of a clever way to be able to tell that a particular line in an edit box is wrapped? -> i think you can only test it in a special fontstring with all consequent overhead |
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| 13:32.17 | cladhaire | aye |
| 13:32.18 | cladhaire | pita |
| 13:33.14 | Drundia | you still need to split it on linefeeds too |
| 13:33.24 | Drundia | editbox text |
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| 14:20.01 | ralfWORK | morning |
| 14:20.09 | Lopeppeppy | ../dance party |
| 14:20.13 | Lopeppeppy | Good morning! |
| 14:20.14 | ralfWORK | ty ty |
| 14:20.59 | ralfWORK | decided to give up the reins of my guild |
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| 14:26.11 | Bela|work | going back to the basics? |
| 14:26.17 | ralfWORK | yea. |
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| 14:26.27 | ralfWORK | gonna remain guildless for a while |
| 14:27.00 | ralfWORK | probably create a vanity guild |
| 14:27.42 | ralfWORK | so I don't get a million /ginvites thrown in my face from chinamen in IF/SW |
| 14:27.49 | alestane | Also known as a "Keep your damn charters to yourself" guild. |
| 14:27.58 | ralfWORK | ya |
| 14:28.25 | ralfWORK | contemplating quiting alltogether |
| 14:28.32 | ralfWORK | but I think that's a bit excessive at this time |
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| 14:35.49 | Atriace | I think I know the answer to this question, but I must know for sure. Is there any way to get the tabard info/icon for factions? |
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| 14:37.41 | alestane | The actual tabard texture? No idea. |
| 14:38.24 | Atriace | I know that you can at least get your own by way of GetGuildTabardFileNames(http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetGuildTabardFileNames) |
| 14:38.48 | Atriace | But specifying GetGuildTabardFileNames("Stormwind") or something of that nature appears to be unimplimented. |
| 14:38.51 | [Ammo] | I suggest reading the blizzard guildregistrat frame code |
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| 15:11.33 | alestane | Hurray for stubborn people: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5780958254&sid=1 |
| 15:13.27 | ralfWORK | hooray for goddamn timezones and mysql |
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| 15:28.23 | Legorol | Can someone point me in the direction of a thread/post/wiki page that discusses issues with tainting of the unitpopup frame as pertaining to the blizzard raid UI panel |
| 15:28.48 | Legorol | In particular, I have a problem with a lot of addons managing to taint the list so that the Main Tank/Main Assist entries are nuked, and would like to understand the problem better |
| 15:32.33 | Seerah | I know that ClearFont2 tainted the Blizz raid panel for MTs (not if you typed into chat though, iirc)... I don't know why. Blizz was supposed to have fixed it a couple of patches ago |
| 15:32.36 | Seerah | but they didn't |
| 15:32.45 | [Ammo] | Legorol: all I know is if you try to touch the unitpopup menu it becomes tainted and you can't do set as maintank anymore |
| 15:33.01 | [Ammo] | Legorol: I wanted to add an autopromote toggle for the menu in oRA but can't due to tainting issues :( |
| 15:34.13 | Legorol | [Ammo]: yup i know as much, the question is, is there a thread/post/wiki page that discusses it in more detail |
| 15:34.19 | Legorol | such as what gets tainted/how/why/when |
| 15:34.29 | Legorol | i tried to find one but couldn't yet, so that's why i'm asking |
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| 15:34.42 | [Ammo] | Legorol: I'm not sure |
| 15:34.49 | Legorol | ok |
| 15:35.04 | [Ammo] | what annoys me most is the worldframe becoming secure when you have nameplates on :) |
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| 15:35.10 | [Ammo] | so you can't shake it after a nameplate has shown |
| 15:35.20 | [Ammo] | stuff like that sucks |
| 15:38.39 | Atriace | if the only entry in a table is [0] (i.e., no name given), how do you reference it? doing table.0 is giving me errors. |
| 15:38.55 | Drundia | table[0] |
| 15:39.03 | Drundia | what means no name? |
| 15:39.33 | Atriace | You're asking me? |
| 15:40.08 | Drundia | yes |
| 15:40.56 | Atriace | http://www.axisc.net/noname.jpg |
| 15:41.26 | dylanm | It's a UI object. That's how they are. |
| 15:41.30 | dylanm | What do you want to do with it? |
| 15:41.31 | Drundia | that's typical numeric index |
| 15:41.38 | Drundia | you access them obviously as table[key] |
| 15:42.03 | Drundia | table.key is syntaxical sugar for table["key"] |
| 15:42.06 | Atriace | dylanm: to retrieve the texture. Drundia: Still learning the ropes on tables. Thanks. :) |
| 15:42.58 | dylanm | Atriace: CharacterTabardSlotIconTexture:GetTexture() |
| 15:43.01 | alestane | Anyone on happen to be a CSS guru? |
| 15:43.01 | Drundia | about nameplates: can't you parent them to different frame? or they stop being reused then? |
| 15:43.08 | dylanm | You're rarely going to have access to fields. |
| 15:43.16 | ralfWORK | alestane: guru? naw. I know a bit about it though |
| 15:43.31 | cladhaire | alestane: depends on what you need, i can do plenty |
| 15:43.39 | dylanm | I, too, have the power. |
| 15:43.52 | alestane | I have a block element that I want to extend to the bottom of its parent element, regardless of the height of the content. |
| 15:44.31 | ralfWORK | floated at all? |
| 15:44.37 | alestane | Not floated. |
| 15:44.59 | Drundia | nerf me |
| 15:44.59 | dylanm | Pretty much you need javascript. In some browsers you can make it act like a table but that's not reliable. |
| 15:45.20 | Drundia | i got some new super-secret idea |
| 15:45.54 | dylanm | I generally fake it with a background. |
| 15:46.06 | dylanm | That's the closest I can get without dicking up the markup. |
| 15:46.48 | Drundia | hmmm. if you create protected frame in combat you can't really set any attributes for it can you? |
| 15:46.50 | Cide | Atriace: www.lua.org/pil |
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| 15:47.06 | z4tz^ | *newbiewarning* if anyone has any tips or tutorials for the OnEvent part? |
| 15:47.16 | Cide | note that tbl.<number> is invalid even if tbl["<number>"] exists |
| 15:51.15 | alestane | Got the CSS thing sorted out. Just had to make the root element height 100% instead of auto. Thanks for feedback. |
| 15:52.23 | Atriace | Cide: the only reference I've found in PIL refering to nul indexes is http://www.lua.org/pil/3.6.html (though here it refers to starting the table key at 0 rather than 1) |
| 15:52.36 | Cide | it's not about nul indices |
| 15:52.40 | Atriace | Was there a specific portion that addressed the issue? |
| 15:52.44 | Cide | it's about how you access numbers |
| 15:53.06 | Drundia | table keys can be anything except nil |
| 15:53.19 | Atriace | Naturally, as it defactor was 0 |
| 15:53.28 | Atriace | defacto* |
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| 15:53.55 | Drundia | was it? when? |
| 15:54.06 | Atriace | http://www.axisc.net/noname.jpg |
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| 15:56.50 | reqol | I'm trying to determine whether or not a spell or melee hit or a crit, however, I have no idea how to utilize the information provided by the COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED, and I don't know how to learn |
| 15:58.01 | Atriace | Have you checked out http://www.wowwiki.com/API_COMBAT_LOG_EVENT ? |
| 15:58.22 | reqol | yes, I have |
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| 16:02.22 | reqol | to be honest, I can't make a correlation between the provided parameters and what is listed on that page |
| 16:02.43 | reqol | it also seems as though they are explaining information which isn't there, though I know that isn't true |
| 16:02.45 | Arrowmaster | start with the top table |
| 16:02.52 | Drundia | so you set up some frame:RegisterEvent("COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED") |
| 16:03.17 | Drundia | then make a handler for it and do frame:SetScript("OnEvent", SomeHandlerFunction) |
| 16:03.17 | reqol | aye, I have one set up now in tinytip |
| 16:03.23 | Drundia | and that function would be like |
| 16:03.32 | Arrowmaster | then depending on the eventtype you add the prams from the second table, then the 3rd table |
| 16:04.01 | Drundia | function SomeHandlerFunction(self,event,timestamp,event,sourceGUID,sourceName,sourceFlags,destGUID,destName,destFlags,...) |
| 16:04.14 | Drundia | secont event should be eventtype |
| 16:04.50 | Drundia | only damage and heals can be crits |
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| 16:05.02 | Drundia | so let me see |
| 16:05.36 | Arrowmaster | if eventtype == "SWING_DAMAGE" then local amount, school, resisted, blocked, absorbed, critical, glancing, crushing = ... |
| 16:06.58 | Drundia | if (strsub(eventtype,-6,-1)=="DAMAGE" then IsCrit = select(6,...) end; |
| 16:07.15 | Drundia | or even (i fail again) |
| 16:07.46 | reqol | it makes a lot more sense now, thanks! |
| 16:07.56 | Arrowmaster | elseif eventtype == "RANGE_DAMAGE" or eventtype == "SPELL_DAMAGE" then local spellID, spellName, spellSchool, amount, school, resisted, blocked, absorbed, critical, glancing, crushing = ... |
| 16:07.58 | Drundia | if (strsub(eventtype,-6,-1)=="DAMAGE" then IsCrit = select(select('#',...)-2, ...) end; |
| 16:08.38 | Drundia | though Arrowmaster's code is overall better if you want to determine a lot of things |
| 16:08.39 | Arrowmaster | elseif eventtype == "SPELL_HEAL" then local spellID, spellName, spellSchool, amount, critical = ... |
| 16:09.01 | waj|zzz | quit Off to work! |
| 16:09.04 | waj|zzz | lol |
| 16:09.11 | Drundia | also looking function CombatLog_OnEvent from Blizzard_CombatLog.lua can help |
| 16:09.31 | Arrowmaster | and Drundia's is wrong for the DAMAGE suffix |
| 16:10.55 | Arrowmaster | well i guess that second one would work |
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| 16:15.03 | reqol | you've definitely help shed light on how to manage the event |
| 16:15.30 | reqol | how were you able to draw these conclusions, though, from looking at that page |
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| 16:18.17 | Drundia | i believe page explains it all |
| 16:18.58 | Drundia | is there any purl-like chat bot addon for wow? |
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| 16:23.09 | cladhaire | Drundia: yes, there's one on wowi |
| 16:23.21 | Nom- | When's a good time to switch to resto? Wait 'til 70? |
| 16:23.31 | Nom- | As a druid that is |
| 16:24.44 | Drundia | name? |
| 16:24.48 | Drundia | of addon |
| 16:25.01 | mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/polevault.png :) |
| 16:25.06 | dylanm | Neat. |
| 16:25.59 | nevcairiel | your gfx has way too much gamma o.O |
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| 16:27.16 | Nom- | lol armory is a little slow this week :p |
| 16:27.25 | Nom- | oh just the search is behind |
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| 16:44.16 | ralfWORK | hmm |
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| 16:44.34 | ralfWORK | ane realms have their badge vendors out yet? |
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| 16:45.42 | Drundia | http://www.gorgonnash.info/ and http://us.gorgonnash.info/ |
| 16:46.23 | Drundia | badge vendors are already there on many servers. only US-Proudmoore seems to have her actually sell anything |
| 16:46.47 | ralfWORK | gotcha |
| 16:47.17 | Valaron|Work | Gooo Proudmoore |
| 16:48.26 | ralfWORK | hmm ok I'm on elune |
| 16:48.42 | ralfWORK | looks like she's there, but only 9% in to getting her to sell me my crap |
| 16:50.01 | Drundia | it's not your crap until you buy it |
| 16:50.26 | ralfWORK | blah blah blah |
| 16:51.37 | ralfWORK | it's mine, she just doesn't know it yet |
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| 17:02.34 | Atriace | haha... I think faction flags might not actually exist all the time, how frustrating. I can't even find many online... none in the Blizzard Interface Art. |
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| 17:24.29 | ScytheBlade1 | How exactly are macros processed? |
| 17:24.43 | ScytheBlade1 | All at once, client side, and then it sends the individual resulting commands to the server? |
| 17:25.36 | ralfWORK | good question; I have no idea |
| 17:25.43 | pastamancer | all of the macro processing is done in the client |
| 17:25.44 | ScytheBlade1 | haha, fair enough |
| 17:26.14 | ScytheBlade1 | See, I figured that much. I didn't think that they would send the actual macro over the wire every time it was pressed. |
| 17:28.13 | pastamancer | a macro really isn't any different from an addon as far as the client/server interaction |
| 17:28.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm, that's a good point |
| 17:29.08 | pastamancer | some of the macro parsing was moved into the client iself rather than being entirely in lua that was around... 2.3 I think |
| 17:29.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Thought it was 2.1? |
| 17:29.28 | pastamancer | oh was it? |
| 17:29.30 | ScytheBlade1 | (Not that I can remember either) |
| 17:29.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Pretty sure it was some time ago |
| 17:29.37 | pastamancer | I could be wrong about when, but it happened |
| 17:29.43 | foxlit | [Unrelated: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/ note the "I'd .... that" xkcd] |
| 17:29.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah it doesn't matter, but I remember that too |
| 17:30.25 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 17:30.47 | ScytheBlade1 | That's quite awesome |
| 17:31.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh bah, browser locked up again, nuking my post |
| 17:32.03 | mikma | what was the code again to get info from the fame you mouseover? |
| 17:32.12 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:32.13 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:32.35 | mikma | thank you :) |
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| 18:01.12 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe... today's http://www.reallifecomics.com/ is pretty good |
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| 18:04.35 | ckknight | that is good, NightHawkTheSane |
| 18:04.55 | Duman | forums kaput |
| 18:05.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup, just now |
| 18:05.12 | ScytheBlade1 | :( |
| 18:05.21 | Cairenn | hahahahha |
| 18:05.22 | Cairenn | http://lolinator.com/lolname/Cairenn |
| 18:06.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh, the PA news post |
| 18:06.40 | ScytheBlade1 | 'A quick look at my inbox shows just over 16,000 entries so far. I guess I know what I'll be doing this weekend. |
| 18:06.43 | ScytheBlade1 | ' |
| 18:06.59 | ScytheBlade1 | 160000 words in his inbox ;D |
| 18:07.01 | Polarina | Cairenn: :) |
| 18:07.07 | mikma | Cairenn: gz on the purrrrrrfect name |
| 18:07.21 | TecnoBrat | Brian = BOOBOO JELLIBELLI |
| 18:07.34 | mikma | = MUMBLES |
| 18:07.36 | mikma | JIGGLES JR. |
| 18:07.57 | ScytheBlade1 | = SARJENT MIAOW-MIAOW |
| 18:07.59 | ScytheBlade1 | what |
| 18:08.02 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 18:08.08 | mikma | buahahahaha |
| 18:08.24 | Duman | DROOLY |
| 18:08.25 | Duman | FRANKNSTINE |
| 18:08.29 | Duman | hah |
| 18:08.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, a hahaha |
| 18:08.38 | ScytheBlade1 | http://lolinator.com/lol/aboveaverageurl.com/ |
| 18:08.41 | ScytheBlade1 | THAT is entertaining |
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| 18:09.09 | Cairenn | http://lolinator.com/lolname/Karen |
| 18:10.37 | TecnoBrat | LOL |
| 18:11.08 | Polarina | :) |
| 18:11.09 | Cairenn | which is highly amusing, since my nickname in HS was Krazzy Karen |
| 18:11.34 | Cairenn | blah, blizz forums down for anyone else? |
| 18:11.44 | alestane | So they just said. |
| 18:14.18 | ralfWORK | blizz forums are being slow as balls |
| 18:14.42 | ralfWORK | maybe down now. slow at the least |
| 18:14.59 | ralfWORK | yep. down now lol |
| 18:15.17 | Duman | [11:04AM] > forums kaput |
| 18:15.19 | Duman | :) |
| 18:15.39 | Duman | >telnet forums.worldofwarcraft.com 80 |
| 18:15.39 | Duman | Trying 12.129.242.24... |
| 18:15.40 | Duman | *hang* |
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| 18:22.24 | Duman | I wonder if they are getting ready to launch the beta... links to the PTR forum are gone and all that |
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| 18:30.42 | enum | yo yo, I have written some lua code to strip certain trainer info from tooltips when visiting a trainer, although, the ranks ( apprentice, artisan, expert, etc... ) don't have any id associated. Does anyone have an idea on how to get around this? |
| 18:31.10 | enum | primarily, I'm after an id |
| 18:31.35 | Shirik|Ecole | what do you mean an "ID"? |
| 18:31.50 | Shirik|Ecole | the unit GUID? |
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| 18:32.20 | enum | every item in the trainer window ( e.g. when you visit a trainer to learn a new skill ) has an id and associated information |
| 18:32.48 | Shirik|Ecole | ok so you're not looking for info on the trainer, you're looking for info on what he has |
| 18:33.03 | enum | right |
| 18:33.16 | enum | so far, I've been able to get an ID for everything, except the skill ups |
| 18:34.38 | enum | to get that info, I've been using GetTrainerServiceItemLink |
| 18:35.00 | enum | but, since the ranks don't have links / tool tips they give me errors |
| 18:36.06 | Kirov | I think they're considered spells |
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| 18:36.38 | enum | oh really? |
| 18:36.47 | cladhaire | i actually don't think one |
| 18:36.48 | cladhaire | so |
| 18:36.51 | cladhaire | one moment |
| 18:37.59 | Kirov | can you link skill upgrades? |
| 18:38.08 | enum | nope |
| 18:38.21 | cladhaire | no i think you're right kirov |
| 18:38.24 | cladhaire | they go into the spellbook |
| 18:38.49 | Kirov | I think the only way to access their ID is by data mining thouhg |
| 18:39.29 | enum | hmm |
| 18:39.40 | Kirov | There are some evil ways of getting that from in-game, but none that are terribly efficient. |
| 18:40.05 | enum | Kirov: got a link to something I can just peek at? I'm curious at how they did it |
| 18:40.11 | enum | this is all a learning experience to me |
| 18:41.01 | Kirov | local spell = {} for i=1, 100000 do GameTooltip:SetHyperlink("spell:"..i) spell[i] = GameTooltipTextLeft1:GetText() end |
| 18:41.04 | Kirov | something like that |
| 18:41.39 | enum | ouch, loop 100,000 |
| 18:41.39 | Kirov | It's possible the skill up is in there someplace |
| 18:41.46 | Kirov | no idea for sure though |
| 18:42.06 | Kirov | "spells" acount for pretty much any action in the game. |
| 18:42.09 | enum | thanks everyone for thier input |
| 18:42.20 | Drundia | Kirov, I think you can check everything from client DB like that |
| 18:42.26 | Drundia | all spells, all ranks, all talents |
| 18:42.37 | Drundia | all other random abilities |
| 18:43.00 | Kirov | Drundia - never actually tried for spells, but I've done similar crawls for enchant strings and random item bonuses |
| 18:43.15 | Kirov | I did it once for some other items as well. |
| 18:43.19 | Kirov | (quests, etc) |
| 18:43.28 | enum | funny, "Tailoring" in the spellbook actually has a tool tip |
| 18:43.32 | enum | but nothing useful |
| 18:43.50 | Kirov | Basically anything linkable or that has an id, you can troll for the client's strings |
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| 18:43.59 | powwow | hi |
| 18:44.03 | Kirov | hi |
| 18:44.06 | powwow | i have a couple of questions... |
| 18:44.18 | powwow | might be noobish but i don't know where else to ask |
| 18:44.27 | Kirov | Yes, Yes, No, capybara, and no. |
| 18:44.36 | Kirov | Any others? |
| 18:44.42 | powwow | LOL |
| 18:45.04 | powwow | i was wondering more like |
| 18:45.18 | Drundia | enchant links use same ids as spell but it seems you can only link tradeskill recipes there |
| 18:45.34 | powwow | :( |
| 18:45.43 | Drundia | and query only tradeskill recips using SetHyperlink() |
| 18:46.12 | Kirov | powwow - what's your question? |
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| 18:48.04 | powwow | I've been wondering is it possible at all to chat on an external IRC server from within wow or for people not on wow to chat with people in a private channel in the game |
| 18:48.11 | powwow | not general, or trade, ofc |
| 18:48.19 | Shirik|Ecole | no |
| 18:48.38 | Shirik|Ecole | well, I take that back |
| 18:48.41 | reqol | couldn't you constantly reload the interface to accept new messages in the form of saved variables? |
| 18:48.47 | Shirik|Ecole | it's theoretically possible if you call ReloadUI() every 5 seconds |
| 18:48.53 | reqol | aye, but quite tedious |
| 18:48.54 | Shirik|Ecole | <3 reqol :P |
| 18:49.04 | reqol | <3 ;o |
| 18:49.08 | ralfWORK | *shudder* |
| 18:50.15 | Shirik|Ecole | but to answer your question powwow, no. It's intentionally impossible to communicate externally in realtime |
| 18:51.00 | powwow | alright thanks |
| 18:51.10 | powwow | i must say, it would be interesting if it were possible :P |
| 18:51.28 | Shirik|Ecole | it would also be the cause of millions of bot-type programs |
| 18:51.57 | ralfWORK | indeed |
| 18:52.03 | powwow | you mean it would enable its creation? |
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| 18:53.27 | powwow_ | ok |
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| 18:53.53 | powwow | ok my connection is funky |
| 18:54.09 | powwow | so you're saying it would enable the creation of bot programs? |
| 18:54.19 | reqol | if the ui were able to communicate externally; yes |
| 18:54.20 | powwow | or ddid you mean spamming? |
| 18:54.31 | powwow | which of the two? |
| 18:55.20 | Shirik|Ecole | the possibilities really are endless |
| 18:56.13 | dylanm | Not that botting and spamming don't happen anyway. |
| 18:56.24 | reqol | this would merely be a means for convenience |
| 18:56.26 | ckknight | Shirik|Ecole: I wish we could communicate externally. |
| 18:56.29 | Shirik|Ecole | but why make it easier? |
| 18:56.46 | Kirov | There are only a couple of "external" communication allowed by WoW, and they're very carefully controlled. |
| 18:57.00 | ckknight | Kirov: hrm? |
| 18:57.00 | dylanm | I'm not saying that they should. Just predicting a counter-argument :p |
| 18:57.17 | ckknight | I need to name a village. What should I name it? |
| 18:57.18 | ralfWORK | Kirov: and those are? |
| 18:57.27 | Kirov | They're also all "one way." Logitech G15 keyboards, combat log, and chat log. |
| 18:57.28 | powwow | like xfire |
| 18:57.30 | dylanm | SVs? :p |
| 18:57.33 | powwow | ? |
| 18:57.42 | ralfWORK | ckknight: pie. name it pie. |
| 18:57.43 | Kirov | SVs, and frame / error logs as well |
| 18:57.58 | Kirov | the G15 plugin is the only one that's real time. |
| 18:58.07 | ckknight | ralfWORK: perhaps something more like the name of a village than a food |
| 18:58.14 | ralfWORK | ckknight: oh kk |
| 18:58.18 | Kirov | Combatlog updates every couple of seconds, and chat log / sv / frame log, etc. are on log out / reloadui |
| 18:59.19 | AbsoRayne | :| |
| 18:59.47 | AbsoRayne | ckknight: Name it Villagetownmesa |
| 18:59.56 | powwow | Well thanks for the answer. It's an interesting one. |
| 19:00.12 | Kirov | It would technically be possible to encode data in to the combat log, but there's no way to get data back in. If you're going to go as far as that you might as well use some more advanced, and closer to real-time techniques. |
| 19:00.39 | Kirov | Any of those, however, are grey area could-get-you-banned situations. |
| 19:00.40 | ckknight | AbsoRayne: I think I'm gonna go with Smilesville |
| 19:00.56 | AbsoRayne | Youre just a party pooper. :< |
| 19:01.18 | Kirov | byebye Cairenn |
| 19:01.24 | AbsoRayne | Enjoy your nap |
| 19:01.48 | Shirik|Ecole | Kirov: The combat log is cached too |
| 19:01.56 | Shirik|Ecole | it's not written to file immediately |
| 19:01.59 | AbsoRayne | ckknight: Out of curiosity, im going to Jira a request for center aligned unit frames for PitBull, how hard would that be to establish? O_o |
| 19:02.02 | Shirik|Ecole | though it /is/ written more frequently |
| 19:02.15 | Kirov | Shirik - right, but it does update before a reload / log |
| 19:02.38 | ckknight | AbsoRayne: center-aligned? |
| 19:02.39 | ralfWORK | I can't count the number of times my combat log was totally wiped by force-quitting wow :( |
| 19:02.41 | ckknight | how do you mean? |
| 19:02.53 | AbsoRayne | Like... |
| 19:04.02 | AbsoRayne | Currently, how you have the expansion of frames to the right of the first established frame, but the problem with that is, going from a 10-15 man to a 25 man, or even a 40 for AV, the raid frames will need to be moved so theyre not offscreened / off aligned. |
| 19:04.22 | AbsoRayne | So instead of expanding 12345, it would be more like 53124 |
| 19:04.30 | AbsoRayne | If you get what im saying |
| 19:04.44 | AbsoRayne | Same for party as well. |
| 19:04.51 | dylanm | Where 1 is our origin, shooting out unit frames into the night. |
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| 19:18.06 | AbsoRayne | Visual Note of what I mean: http://www.freewebs.com/absorayne/WoWScrnShot%5F040208%5F203635.png is how its set up for 25 mans, but if I used the same thing in a 15 man EotS, it kinda hangs to one side like so: http://www.freewebs.com/absorayne/WoWScrnShot%5F040708%5F130919.png |
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| 19:22.27 | Atriace | nevcairiel: Hey, I've been getting some reports from druids saying button paging isn't setup by default for druid forms. Is this still an issue or are you going to change it perhaps? |
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| 19:26.40 | Atriace | ~poke nevcairiel |
| 19:26.41 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind nevcairiel, pokes nevcairiel repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 19:28.29 | sag_ich_nicht | looking for the addon that turns your chatframe into 1 line unless you move your mouse to it |
| 19:28.44 | Lopeppeppy | Minichat? |
| 19:29.26 | Lopeppeppy | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/MiniChat |
| 19:31.14 | nevcairiel | Atriace: yeah thats bugged i think, didnt really check yet *shrug |
| 19:31.40 | AbsoRayne | Ill be off to the Jira then |
| 19:32.50 | Atriace | If I mailed you a some biscuts and tea, do you think you might fix it sooner? ^_^ |
| 19:33.05 | wereHamster | AbsoRayne, what is the thing at the bottom center? a raid UI? |
| 19:33.34 | AbsoRayne | Yes, its my raid frames, all Pitbull |
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| 19:36.44 | AbsoRayne | Ok, done with that. |
| 19:36.57 | nevcairiel | Atriace: i'll fix it after raid |
| 19:38.04 | sag_ich_nicht | Lopeppeppy: yupp that appears to be it |
| 19:39.08 | Lopeppeppy | Yay for the Peppy Memory 2.0 ! |
| 19:39.50 | ckknight | AbsoRayne: I actually don't think what you're asking for is possible with Blizzard's system |
| 19:39.58 | ckknight | Lopeppeppy: yay |
| 19:40.25 | pastamancer | ckknight: I guess I get away with it in grid because all my headers are anchored to the background frame |
| 19:40.36 | AbsoRayne | ckknight: Its possible with a Dynamic Layout Plugin through Grid, though that could be different with your PitBull |
| 19:41.20 | AbsoRayne | brb |
| 19:43.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Ha, so the guy who wants "unlimited length macros" |
| 19:44.20 | ScytheBlade1 | I found his macro |
| 19:44.20 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5754687520&postId=57536900709&sid=1#0 |
| 19:45.00 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, that made me boggle, ScytheBlade1. |
| 19:45.08 | ralfWORK | lolwut? |
| 19:45.24 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm not sure how to reply to taht |
| 19:45.24 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm not sure how to reply to tahtAlso holy crap SSH lag |
| 19:45.43 | ralfWORK | yea, holy ssh lag is right |
| 19:45.54 | ralfWORK | and what the crap is he trying to do? that seems retarded to me |
| 19:46.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Argh, wtf |
| 19:46.01 | ScytheBlade1 | brb |
| 19:46.01 | Lopeppeppy | One Button Play |
| 19:46.06 | ralfWORK | lul |
| 19:46.18 | enum | so, trying to get a trainers "class" for example: Mage Trainer, Hunter Trainer, Tailor Trainer. Was looking through the Unit and Trainer API stuff and didn't see anything that worked. Any ideas? |
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| 19:48.23 | ScytheBlade1 | That's better |
| 19:48.31 | ScytheBlade1 | And yeah, "push a button, play the game for me" |
| 19:50.19 | ralfWORK | ohhh cool can I have one? |
| 19:50.20 | ralfWORK | :P |
| 19:50.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Sure! |
| 19:50.31 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5754687520&postId=57536900709&sid=1#0 |
| 19:50.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Enjoy! |
| 19:50.41 | ScytheBlade1 | I mean, NR totem? |
| 19:50.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Who? Why....? |
| 19:50.49 | ralfWORK | kthx |
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| 19:51.01 | ralfWORK | damn now all I need to do is roll a warlock |
| 19:51.06 | sag_ich_nicht | WTB Addon that prefixes the name of someone with their class icon, or if spec is known, with their spec icon |
| 19:51.07 | sag_ich_nicht | (ala Prat class coloring, only instead of coloring the name you add an icon) |
| 19:51.12 | sag_ich_nicht | *alla |
| 19:51.23 | ScytheBlade1 | sag_ich_nicht: search wowi for "ChatIcons" or something similar |
| 19:51.40 | ralfWORK | I thought when you rolled a Warlock you got the IWIN button automatically, no? |
| 19:51.46 | ScytheBlade1 | sag_ich_nicht: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=8287 |
| 19:52.59 | ralfWORK | ScytheBlade1: cause he has a nature damage wand! |
| 19:53.00 | ralfWORK | OMG |
| 19:53.08 | ralfWORK | KILL TEH NATURE REZISSTS |
| 19:53.11 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 19:53.29 | enum | any ideas on the trainer "class"? I'm getting ready to just strip it from the tool tip if something doesn't already exist |
| 19:53.44 | pastamancer | enum: try whatever gives you a unit's guild name |
| 19:54.18 | enum | pastamancer: that's a damn good idea, thanks |
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| 19:59.41 | sylvanaar | i wish the chaticons author would use ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter instead of hooking AddMessage |
| 20:00.44 | sylvanaar | all chat mod authors for that matter should probably be using ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter now |
| 20:01.49 | kergoth | so pester him, Tem is on irc |
| 20:01.53 | kergoth | Tem: boo |
| 20:02.05 | sag_ich_nicht | NICE |
| 20:02.10 | sag_ich_nicht | thanks ScytheBlade1 |
| 20:02.58 | mikma | Tem: <sylvanaar> i wish the chaticons author would use ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter instead of hooking AddMessage |
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| 20:03.52 | sylvanaar | it is in almost all ways superior to hooking addmessage |
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| 20:04.21 | AbsoRayne | aaaaand im back |
| 20:05.17 | sylvanaar | since you can register a filter function for specific events |
| 20:06.05 | sylvanaar | and not worry about frames at all |
| 20:06.27 | wereHamster | is ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter new in 2.4? |
| 20:06.32 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 20:07.06 | sag_ich_nicht | sylvanaar: gimme a patch |
| 20:07.06 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 20:07.42 | AbsoRayne | Scared the crap out of one of my kittens :< |
| 20:07.46 | sylvanaar | the best part is that prat will work with chat addons that use this api |
| 20:08.01 | ScytheBlade1 | sag_ich_nicht: sure, heh |
| 20:08.28 | AbsoRayne | He was in the bathroom, and I turned on the shower, the mist hit him and went running across the apartment. Soaked the little guy. :< |
| 20:09.48 | Kirov | I find my cat in the tub all the time |
| 20:10.16 | Kirov | he grab things like contact lense holder caps and take it in to the tub with him and play with it. |
| 20:10.24 | Kirov | I find random stuff in there from time to time. |
| 20:10.26 | sylvanaar | i was working on an updated version of my lua listing utility, i guess i'll make a sample chatmod which uses AMEF |
| 20:10.31 | Lopeppeppy | My cat likes to try to get into the bathtub, but only if I'm taking a bath. Then she falls in, drowns and runs away. Hilarious. |
| 20:10.38 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 20:10.47 | mikma | Cairenn|afk: http://kuvaton.com/bshit/you-make-bunny-cry.jpg <- new avatar for you |
| 20:11.25 | ralfWORK | heh |
| 20:12.56 | zenzelezz | <Lopeppeppy> My cat likes to try to get into the bathtub, but only if I'm taking a bath <-- who can blame her? |
| 20:13.26 | Lopeppeppy | zenzelezz. *laugh* Cats don't like water, so she must feel safer when I'm there. No girl on girl fur action, kplzthx. |
| 20:13.46 | zenzelezz | don't take away my dreams |
| 20:14.01 | zenzelezz | and I do know about cats, had them since I was 4 |
| 20:14.09 | sag_ich_nicht | Tem |
| 20:14.11 | sag_ich_nicht | I STAB YOU |
| 20:14.38 | Lopeppeppy | okay, you can keep your dreams darlin'. *hug* |
| 20:14.56 | zenzelezz | \o/ |
| 20:17.53 | mikma | Lopeppeppy: so no "1 girl 1 cap" action for us either |
| 20:18.09 | mikma | cat* |
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| 20:18.45 | AbsoRayne | O_o |
| 20:18.48 | AbsoRayne | What did I start |
| 20:19.23 | Lopeppeppy | Um. No. |
| 20:19.32 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 20:19.39 | Lopeppeppy | Do not hurt AbsoRayne's head that way, it's cruel. |
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| 20:21.30 | AbsoRayne | On a duller note, http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5754517151&sid=1&pageNo=1 got way out of hand, and makes me want to go back to trolling EJ and posting my UIs there. |
| 20:22.02 | ScytheBlade1 | lol, that's awesome |
| 20:23.00 | AbsoRayne | That guy really needs to just shut the hell up or go away. If not both. |
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| 20:23.43 | Lopeppeppy | ..."(when yours is terribad and oversized enough to make Ron Jeremy proud). " Priceless. |
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| 20:39.10 | TecnoBrat | its the wow forums |
| 20:39.13 | TecnoBrat | its not surprising |
| 20:39.53 | sag_ich_nicht | ugh, someone update ChatIcons to work with Trade and custom channels using caching or similar, like prat coloring does |
| 20:40.01 | sag_ich_nicht | AND BY SOMEONE I MEAN YOU TEM |
| 20:40.25 | TecnoBrat | AbsoRayne, I like your UI, I would make some things a little bigger, but I like it :) |
| 20:40.27 | Shirik | Yes! |
| 20:40.31 | Shirik | sag_ich_nicht isnt yelling at me for once! |
| 20:40.58 | batrick | i can yell at u if u want |
| 20:41.05 | Shirik | Im working on your stuff right now |
| 20:41.08 | Shirik | no time to be yelled at |
| 20:41.15 | batrick | lool |
| 20:42.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: YELLING AT SHIRIK |
| 20:42.23 | ScytheBlade1 | There we go |
| 20:42.34 | Shirik | ~kill ScytheBlade1 |
| 20:42.34 | purl | ACTION shoots a magneto-ionized fluxproton gun at ScytheBlade1 |
| 20:42.59 | *** kick/#wowuidev [ScytheBlade1!i=skullsho@conspiracy/developer/Shirik] by Shirik (CTCP/KICK) |
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| 20:43.10 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 20:43.12 | ScytheBlade1 | You had it coming to you |
| 20:43.13 | AbsoRayne | TecnoBrat: Im trying to figure out how to make Vert. Text on PitBull |
| 20:43.19 | AbsoRayne | For the Raid Frames |
| 20:43.19 | Shirik | so did you |
| 20:43.23 | Shirik | :P |
| 20:43.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, probably |
| 20:43.30 | ScytheBlade1 | I won't deny that |
| 20:43.32 | Shirik | omfg Im turning off CTCPs |
| 20:43.38 | batrick | l0l |
| 20:43.47 | batrick | eww mirc |
| 20:43.52 | batrick | you have no class shirik |
| 20:44.00 | Shirik | its not just mirc |
| 20:44.02 | Shirik | its nbs-irc |
| 20:44.05 | Shirik | the god version of mirc |
| 20:44.13 | batrick | respect --- |
| 20:44.15 | batrick | err |
| 20:44.16 | batrick | -- |
| 20:44.24 | Shirik | let us assume that mircs quality level is 0, and nbs-ircs quality level is infinity |
| 20:44.45 | Shirik | lua> return (1/0) --[[ Shortcut for infinity ]] / 0 |
| 20:44.58 | batrick | baddy |
| 20:44.59 | Shirik | --> return (1/0) --[[ Shortcut for infinity ]] / 0 |
| 20:44.59 | batbot | Shirik: > inf |
| 20:45.05 | Shirik | obviously, its infinity |
| 20:45.13 | Shirik | wait |
| 20:45.14 | Shirik | sorry |
| 20:45.17 | Shirik | --> return (1/0) --[[ Shortcut for infinity ]] * 0 |
| 20:45.17 | batbot | Shirik: > nan |
| 20:45.26 | Shirik | so its so good, its not even on the scale |
| 20:45.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Except it's still mIRC |
| 20:45.36 | ScytheBlade1 | :( |
| 20:45.37 | Shirik | its on the imaginary scale |
| 20:45.43 | enum | pastamancer: no go on the guild stuff for npcs |
| 20:45.47 | batrick | !g xchat windows |
| 20:45.48 | batbot | batrick: X-Chat 2 for Windows <http://www.silverex.org/> |
| 20:45.50 | batrick | go use that shirik |
| 20:46.02 | Shirik | e^(jw*theta)==pi/2 |
| 20:46.06 | pastamancer | enum: damn, I thought for sure that was it |
| 20:46.07 | Shirik | er |
| 20:46.13 | Shirik | I give up |
| 20:46.15 | enum | I tried GetGuildInfo() |
| 20:46.33 | Shirik | afk phone |
| 20:46.41 | enum | Shirik: any idea how to grab the <X Tainer> data from an NPC? |
| 20:47.01 | enum | I'm really trying to stear clear of reading tooltips |
| 20:47.02 | Arrowmaster | you can pull it from the tooltip |
| 20:47.13 | Arrowmaster | meh |
| 20:47.23 | sag_ich_nicht | [22:40] <@Shirik> sag_ich_nicht isnât yelling at me for once! <--GET CONSPIRACY WORKING |
| 20:47.24 | Drundia | enum, everything requires tooltips |
| 20:47.46 | enum | is there an API for reading tooltips? I don't see one in the API list |
| 20:48.44 | Shirik | batrick: Is there anything new on the SVN I should merge in before continuing? |
| 20:48.51 | Drundia | you read its strings |
| 20:48.55 | batrick | i haven't worked on it in a long time |
| 20:49.05 | batrick | so no |
| 20:49.11 | enum | Drundia: right, I get that part. I've just no idea on how to go about accessing the strings |
| 20:49.40 | Drundia | GameTooltipTextLeft# and GameTooltipTextRight# |
| 20:49.55 | pastamancer | enum: yeah, that's what I would have guessed |
| 20:50.17 | enum | k, thanks |
| 20:50.31 | Drundia | though you replace GameTooltip there with your tooltip name |
| 20:54.41 | sag_ich_nicht | honestly Shirik |
| 20:54.42 | sag_ich_nicht | need :/ |
| 20:54.48 | batrick | --> 1/0 |
| 20:54.49 | batbot | batrick: > inf |
| 20:54.55 | Shirik | lots of stuff going on atm |
| 20:55.02 | Shirik | but hopefully can get a lot of work done soon |
| 20:55.44 | batrick | --> local d = os.clock() for i = 1, 1e6 do local a = 1/0 end print(os.clock() - d) |
| 20:55.45 | batbot | batrick: 0.46 |
| 20:55.52 | batrick | --> local d = os.clock() for i = 1, 1e6 do local a = math.huge end print(os.clock() - d) |
| 20:55.52 | batbot | batrick: 0.2 |
| 20:55.56 | batrick | thought so |
| 20:57.52 | sag_ich_nicht | grid modules i should get, list them, now |
| 20:57.58 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik see what you make me do? |
| 20:58.08 | Shirik | Im using grid right now too |
| 20:58.09 | Shirik | tbh |
| 20:58.25 | pastamancer | sag_ich_nicht: I just use Grid |
| 21:00.02 | Shirik | batrick: Youre ok with the standard contract of condvars, right? The one that says that condvars may spontaneously be signaled, so you should run your check in a while loop? |
| 21:00.06 | Lopeppeppy | PerfectRaid here. |
| 21:00.51 | batrick | spontaneously or spurriously? |
| 21:01.00 | Shirik | whats the difference? |
| 21:01.13 | enum | meh, this is a pain |
| 21:01.35 | batrick | spontaneously would be unexpected... spurriously(sp?) would be signaled unnecessarily |
| 21:01.35 | batbot | batrick, spuriously. |
| 21:01.56 | Shirik | spuriously I guess |
| 21:02.29 | batrick | I made a fairly safe assumption that only one thread can be woken from a condition variable and thus it's not really necessary |
| 21:02.30 | sag_ich_nicht | [22:58] <pastamancer> sag_ich_nicht: I just use Grid <--that's great. |
| 21:02.41 | batrick | but if you want to add the checks go ahead |
| 21:02.41 | Shirik | I can handle that assumption |
| 21:02.45 | sag_ich_nicht | now tell me modules that you think are awesome and why i should get them |
| 21:02.55 | Shirik | because theres a mutex bound to it as well |
| 21:03.04 | batrick | yes |
| 21:03.05 | batrick | ? |
| 21:03.14 | Shirik | but I cant guarantee that a thread wont be signaled unnecessarily |
| 21:03.20 | pastamancer | sag_ich_nicht: if there were any awesome ones, I'd use them |
| 21:03.23 | batrick | why is that |
| 21:03.28 | Shirik | but only one thread will be signaled at a time |
| 21:04.01 | Shirik | thats just how windows is :) |
| 21:04.04 | Shirik | Java is like that too actually |
| 21:04.17 | Shirik | and Im fairly certain pthread_condvar_wait has the same contract |
| 21:05.35 | batrick | yes |
| 21:05.50 | batrick | so go ahead add the checks =) |
| 21:05.53 | batrick | i'll bbl |
| 21:06.17 | Shirik | k |
| 21:10.34 | Nechckn | Shirik how did "The Beast" do in the competition?? |
| 21:10.43 | Shirik | ha |
| 21:10.45 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, how did that go? |
| 21:11.01 | Shirik | let me show you the video first :P |
| 21:11.12 | Lopeppeppy | Your video, show me it! |
| 21:11.15 | Shirik | can you download a 38MB video? |
| 21:11.49 | Lopeppeppy | I don't know, show me and link and I'll see. :) |
| 21:11.54 | Keias | Moving to the country, gunna eat me a lot of peaches |
| 21:12.28 | Nechckn | sure |
| 21:12.30 | Shirik | http://files.filefront.com/TriumphMPG/;9964266;/fileinfo.html |
| 21:12.51 | Nechckn | Hmm.. I do see "Triumph" in there.... |
| 21:13.11 | Lopeppeppy | I hope so. *hug* |
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| 21:14.00 | Shirik | remember, the objective is to pick up 4 of the 7 blocks (the most valuable ones, preferably) and then return to the location you started (in that white square) |
| 21:14.19 | Shirik | the section in the back is rocks about 1.5cm high |
| 21:15.07 | Arrowmaster | what were the most valuable ones? |
| 21:15.53 | Nechckn | wow- looks very good |
| 21:16.10 | Shirik | preferably it would have picked up white blue and red |
| 21:16.19 | Nechckn | seems to have had a bit of a hard time with the rocks at one point - but recovered nicely |
| 21:16.21 | Shirik | well, preferably two white two blue |
| 21:16.32 | Shirik | Nechckn: That exact spot is where about 10 bots got stuck |
| 21:16.51 | Shirik | now ok, this is the best part |
| 21:17.08 | Nechckn | hmm... maybe due to the V made by the rocks there? or something? |
| 21:17.32 | Shirik | the block detection subsystem failed early, so it went into a failure mode where it decided to run around randomly instead of an explicit search |
| 21:17.39 | Shirik | the blocks it found, it found by accident |
| 21:17.46 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 21:17.47 | Shirik | Not only that, it gets better |
| 21:17.52 | Shirik | saw where it returns to the base? |
| 21:17.57 | Nechckn | ha |
| 21:18.03 | Shirik | Yeah, it wasnt programmed to return to base until 2 minutes in. That was only 1:40 |
| 21:18.04 | Nechckn | yep.... |
| 21:18.11 | Nechckn | oh wow |
| 21:18.18 | Shirik | What happened was the IR beacon from the base interfered with the rangefinder in the front |
| 21:18.23 | Nechckn | so it just happened to get stuck in the right place? |
| 21:18.24 | Shirik | making it think the wall was miles away |
| 21:18.27 | Shirik | and it literally crashed into the base |
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| 21:19.04 | Lopeppeppy | That was awesome, Shirik! |
| 21:19.14 | Shirik | when it crashed into the base, you heard it oh my god |
| 21:19.17 | Nechckn | wow... good thing they called it when they did then |
| 21:19.18 | Shirik | We were all in shock |
| 21:19.19 | Lopeppeppy | How did you do in the competition itself though, since I'm an ignorant peasant where bots are concerned. |
| 21:19.21 | Arrowmaster | so basicly it failed horibly but nobody knew? |
| 21:19.25 | Shirik | you can hear the judges interrupt our shock |
| 21:19.27 | Nechckn | could have decided to back up, right? |
| 21:19.29 | Shirik | with do you want to call it? |
| 21:19.32 | Shirik | yes! |
| 21:19.56 | Nechckn | Well, congratulations, know you worked pretty hard on it and all |
| 21:19.59 | Shirik | But um, out of 47 teams, we tied for 3rd |
| 21:20.11 | Lopeppeppy | That's not too shabby then! |
| 21:20.15 | Shirik | not only that, we would have been 2nd, but during the first round we got 0 points because it failed to start for some reason |
| 21:20.33 | Shirik | still havent figured out why |
| 21:20.43 | Nechckn | Hmm... main finder failure just after the start, coupled with the beacon causing interference, I'd call it a win |
| 21:21.47 | Nechckn | have you decided how to spend your millions from the prize money yet |
| 21:22.09 | sag_ich_nicht | WTB something to simulate raid situations in grid so i can configure it |
| 21:22.30 | Keias | AV, go! |
| 21:22.44 | Shirik | Nechckn: perhaps spend it on all the money we wasted on the bot lol >< |
| 21:22.45 | pastamancer | sag_ich_nicht: too bad |
| 21:22.58 | Nechckn | ha- never! get beer |
| 21:23.04 | Nechckn | lots and lots of beer |
| 21:23.11 | Nechckn | or a six pack, at least |
| 21:24.02 | Nechckn | Shirik when it didn't start for round 1... did you take it out back and do a sledge-hammer correction? |
| 21:24.34 | Lopeppeppy | Meep! |
| 21:24.35 | Shirik | we didnt change anything actually |
| 21:24.40 | Shirik | we went back to the practice courts and it worked fine... |
| 21:24.52 | Nechckn | huh- whackey |
| 21:25.49 | Shirik | its probably a timing issue I failed to forsee |
| 21:25.55 | Shirik | and it will probably never happen again |
| 21:25.58 | sag_ich_nicht | okay pastamancer now tell me how i make all the player names apear below each other with no horizontal growth whatsoever |
| 21:25.58 | Nechckn | See, I have to pay more attention to such competitions- just to check 'em out when they're in the area |
| 21:25.58 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 21:26.03 | Shirik | this is why realtime systems is such a pain |
| 21:26.03 | klip | damn! I hate I'm not able to leave mount in a next change station :) this is so unreal (even in warcraft world :) |
| 21:26.06 | Nechckn | if not to actually participate |
| 21:26.19 | pastamancer | sag_ich_nicht: I'm not sure I understand |
| 21:26.21 | Shirik | I want to know what was going through everyone elses mind when our bot was going |
| 21:26.29 | Shirik | most other bots took so long to do accurate calculations, would stand in place, etc. |
| 21:26.35 | sag_ich_nicht | pastamancer: vertical list. |
| 21:26.36 | Shirik | ours was just flying everywhere |
| 21:26.40 | Shirik | How do they find the blocks that quickly! |
| 21:26.42 | sag_ich_nicht | no sidegrowths. |
| 21:26.46 | Nechckn | Ha- they were like man, these dudes are wizards! |
| 21:26.51 | sag_ich_nicht | just top to bottom. |
| 21:26.53 | sag_ich_nicht | i can't figure it out |
| 21:27.02 | Nechckn | either that.. or they guessed =) |
| 21:27.08 | pastamancer | sag_ich_nicht: custom layout, pretty ez |
| 21:27.37 | sag_ich_nicht | http://loliserv.org/~afora/WoWScrnShot_112207_213300.jpg <--like that. |
| 21:27.39 | sag_ich_nicht | pastamancer: how |
| 21:27.46 | sag_ich_nicht | like how2custom layout |
| 21:28.11 | sag_ich_nicht | (don't flame that UI, it is long gone and death) |
| 21:28.13 | pastamancer | hmm, I'm sure someone already posted it in the grid thread somewhere, but gimme a min or two |
| 21:28.36 | sag_ich_nicht | i just want it as vertical list sorted by GUID :P |
| 21:28.37 | Nechckn | Shirik if you really wanted to nerd out, I'm sure you could do some figures as to how likely your outcome was vs. total failure- but that's ever so NOT fun |
| 21:28.51 | Shirik | haha |
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| 21:29.01 | sag_ich_nicht | (YES I WANT IT SORTED BY GUID NOT PLAYER NAME AND NOT GROUP :O) |
| 21:29.14 | sag_ich_nicht | (YES I AM INSANE) |
| 21:29.26 | sag_ich_nicht | also not by class :P |
| 21:29.33 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik knows why |
| 21:29.34 | sag_ich_nicht | :/ |
| 21:29.51 | Shirik | youre crazy? |
| 21:29.55 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 21:29.59 | sag_ich_nicht | remember the RDX option? |
| 21:30.00 | Shirik | thats how RDX was? |
| 21:30.02 | Shirik | heh |
| 21:30.14 | Shirik | I always used the name option :P |
| 21:30.30 | sag_ich_nicht | i always sorted by player ID |
| 21:30.31 | sag_ich_nicht | because |
| 21:30.42 | sag_ich_nicht | that way the same person is ALWAYS at the same relative position |
| 21:30.52 | Tuller | hrm, can I get some gameplay with that interface? |
| 21:30.55 | sag_ich_nicht | so i don't have to go "uh in which group is that guy that's yelling at me on vent now" |
| 21:31.06 | sag_ich_nicht | Tuller: fuck off and die, that interface is long dead :P |
| 21:31.17 | sag_ich_nicht | (mostly) |
| 21:32.34 | Tuller | :P |
| 21:33.12 | Tuller | my tiny mind just cannot parse all of that data at once :P |
| 21:33.24 | sag_ich_nicht | mine can |
| 21:33.24 | pastamancer | sag_ich_nicht: GridLayout:AddLayout("Vertical", { { groupFilter = "1,2,3,4,5" } }) |
| 21:33.59 | sag_ich_nicht | and now? :P |
| 21:34.00 | Tuller | then again, I only use SCT as a, "i'm being attacked, so I should pay attention" display |
| 21:34.11 | sag_ich_nicht | oh wait |
| 21:34.12 | sag_ich_nicht | holdon |
| 21:34.14 | sag_ich_nicht | the thing |
| 21:34.14 | pastamancer | sag_ich_nicht: then you get a new layout option |
| 21:34.16 | sag_ich_nicht | is clamping |
| 21:34.19 | pastamancer | and you pick it |
| 21:34.44 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah already done |
| 21:34.48 | pastamancer | yeah, it's clamped to screen by default |
| 21:34.52 | sag_ich_nicht | nono |
| 21:34.53 | sag_ich_nicht | not what i meant |
| 21:34.55 | pastamancer | oh |
| 21:34.56 | sag_ich_nicht | nvm |
| 21:35.23 | sag_ich_nicht | okay now is there a way to get the show party in raid option to the right side instead of having it on the left side? :P |
| 21:35.50 | pastamancer | yeah, you'd have to change the group anchor point |
| 21:35.58 | sag_ich_nicht | ah |
| 21:35.58 | sag_ich_nicht | kk |
| 21:36.08 | sag_ich_nicht | fixed |
| 21:36.08 | sag_ich_nicht | thanks |
| 21:36.29 | sag_ich_nicht | DAMNIT |
| 21:36.31 | sag_ich_nicht | wow crashed. |
| 21:37.14 | sag_ich_nicht | pastamancer: is there a way to have it sort by player ID/GUID instead of group? :) |
| 21:37.39 | pastamancer | yeah, I'd have to look it up |
| 21:37.59 | pastamancer | ah, sortMethod = "INDEX" |
| 21:38.22 | pastamancer | so your layout would be { { groupFilter = "1,2,3,4,5", sortMethod = "INDEX" } } |
| 21:38.30 | sag_ich_nicht | nice |
| 21:38.31 | sag_ich_nicht | thanks |
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| 21:39.01 | pastamancer | so either hack up your gridlayoutlayouts.lua every time you update or create a little addon which runs the GridLayout:AddLayout for you |
| 21:39.05 | sag_ich_nicht | pastamancer: link to documentation |
| 21:39.16 | sag_ich_nicht | or i just stab it into luaslinger |
| 21:39.35 | pastamancer | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Grid/Developer_Documentation#GridLayout |
| 21:39.44 | Drundia | any addon for secure npc clicking in neutral towns? |
| 21:39.47 | lagger` | why did blizzard make flash of light one of the few spells with a cast time that fires SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS at the end |
| 21:39.54 | sag_ich_nicht | thanks |
| 21:40.08 | sag_ich_nicht | it isn't "one of the few" |
| 21:40.14 | pastamancer | or you can look at SecureTemplates.lua for the full documentations |
| 21:40.14 | sag_ich_nicht | all of the spells with cast time have it |
| 21:40.19 | lagger` | no they dont |
| 21:40.21 | Drundia | lagger, ideally it should fire for all |
| 21:40.27 | sag_ich_nicht | pastamancer: yeah i guessed THAT |
| 21:40.27 | Drundia | but they fail |
| 21:40.38 | Drundia | they added "begin to cast" for everyone who didn't fire it |
| 21:40.44 | Drundia | added cast success for instants |
| 21:40.45 | pastamancer | http://wdnaddons.com/2408089/FrameXML/SecureTemplates.lua linke 556 or so |
| 21:40.48 | pastamancer | err line |
| 21:40.51 | Drundia | but not to spell with cast time |
| 21:40.59 | Drundia | ~fail Blizzard |
| 21:41.00 | purl | Blizzard, you Fail! |
| 21:41.10 | lagger` | well flahs of light |
| 21:41.12 | klip | I'm just little it confused.. mage talent - Frost Channeling - "Reduces the mana cost of your frost spells by 5% and reduces the threat caused by your Frost spells by 4%" I'm not english native, so could anybody tell me, if "reduced threat" means less dmg I do by frost spells with that? |
| 21:41.13 | lagger` | is like the only one that does it right now |
| 21:41.36 | Drundia | no it means, mobs are less angry at you when you damage them |
| 21:41.45 | klip | Drundia: oh, thanks :) |
| 21:42.04 | lagger` | and they make the success spellID |
| 21:42.07 | klip | Drundia: it didn't make sense to me... talent reducing damage :) |
| 21:42.08 | lagger` | different from the spell cast flash of light |
| 21:42.18 | lagger` | so when u getspellinfo on it it says cast time 0 |
| 21:42.38 | sag_ich_nicht | klip: there are talents that do that |
| 21:42.39 | lagger` | cant filter them out |
| 21:42.43 | sag_ich_nicht | but for those it makes sense :P |
| 21:42.51 | klip | :) |
| 21:43.04 | sag_ich_nicht | (EXCEPT for that obnoxious mage issue but that was fixed anyway) |
| 21:43.14 | Drundia | lagger, maybe it's some weird proc? |
| 21:43.31 | lagger` | last patch |
| 21:43.35 | lagger` | holy light fired spell_cast_success |
| 21:43.38 | lagger` | at the end |
| 21:43.40 | lagger` | now it doesnt in 2.4 |
| 21:43.42 | lagger` | and flash of light does |
| 21:43.52 | lagger` | thx blizzard |
| 21:44.13 | Duman | lagger: known issue :P |
| 21:44.33 | Shirik | gah, Lopeppeppy |
| 21:44.41 | Shirik | you remember that celtic violinist you showed me a while ago? |
| 21:44.47 | Shirik | Or maybe it was Lunessa |
| 21:45.24 | Drundia | maybe it has something to do with blessing of light? |
| 21:45.41 | Drundia | or some other proc |
| 21:45.49 | Drundia | as i said earlier |
| 21:47.10 | sag_ich_nicht | honestly |
| 21:47.24 | pastamancer | got a current screenshot? |
| 21:47.27 | sag_ich_nicht | if i'm done with it most people probably won't be able to tell it's grid from screenshots |
| 21:47.29 | sag_ich_nicht | not done yet :P |
| 21:47.40 | pastamancer | I've seen some really crazy ones |
| 21:49.02 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, it was me, let me go find her.... |
| 21:49.08 | Tuller | http://i31.tinypic.com/2qkoze1.jpg |
| 21:49.09 | Shirik | nono |
| 21:49.12 | Shirik | I just found her again |
| 21:49.13 | Tuller | completely useless, but yeah |
| 21:49.13 | Shirik | randomly |
| 21:49.19 | Shirik | Just thought that was interesting |
| 21:49.26 | Shirik | And her violin still has a mute on it, lol |
| 21:50.39 | Lopeppeppy | Mairead Nesbitt, yup. |
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| 21:51.13 | sag_ich_nicht | ugh i need damage |
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| 21:51.40 | Duman | tuller: nice :) |
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| 21:53.27 | sag_ich_nicht | ugh |
| 21:55.00 | sag_ich_nicht | how do i disable class coloring? i just want the HP fading from green to red:X |
| 21:55.17 | nevcairiel | Tuller: is that on ludwig svn already? wtb! :) |
| 21:55.18 | sag_ich_nicht | the name being colored is enough |
| 21:55.25 | Tuller | nevcairiel: nope :P |
| 21:55.28 | sag_ich_nicht | nvm |
| 21:55.28 | sag_ich_nicht | found it |
| 21:55.41 | Tuller | nevcairiel: I was just seeing if it was possible :P |
| 21:55.45 | nevcairiel | he |
| 21:55.47 | nevcairiel | *heh |
| 21:56.26 | Tuller | all it is is a brute force using GetSpellINfo |
| 21:56.41 | Tuller | i'm semi surprised it covers pretty much everything |
| 21:56.45 | sag_ich_nicht | HA |
| 21:56.47 | sag_ich_nicht | found a bug |
| 21:57.20 | sag_ich_nicht | i always find bugs in addons once i start using them no matter what the addon :X |
| 21:57.28 | Shirik | C supports forward declarations, right? |
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| 21:57.41 | sag_ich_nicht | C supports everything as long as you can write a .h for it |
| 21:58.03 | sag_ich_nicht | pastamancer there is a bug in grid, if you disable coloring by class it doesn't reflect that change until the HP changes or a similar event happens |
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| 21:58.29 | pastamancer | sag_ich_nicht: I'll look into it... I think I even knew about it already |
| 21:58.58 | sag_ich_nicht | incoming heal updates it as well |
| 21:59.13 | sag_ich_nicht | probably ANYTHING that grid is registered to :P |
| 21:59.16 | pastamancer | yeah |
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| 21:59.37 | Duman | Tuller: that's prett damn rad, actually |
| 21:59.42 | NightHawkTheSane | there's sometimes a similar bug with dead status, as well, its noticable with TK instances |
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| 22:01.54 | AbsoRayne | do do do |
| 22:03.29 | sag_ich_nicht | pastamancer: having health do colorfading? (green(full) to yellow(50%) to red(20%))? |
| 22:04.07 | pastamancer | NightHawkTheSane: yeah, I'm not sure how to work around that |
| 22:04.12 | pastamancer | sag_ich_nicht: gross |
| 22:06.10 | Arrowmaster | pastamancer: the dead status with TK instances? theres a different event you need to register for probably |
| 22:06.35 | pastamancer | Arrowmaster: I already wathc UNIT_HEALTH, UNIT_HEALTH_MAX, and UNIT_AURA :( |
| 22:06.40 | sag_ich_nicht | pastamancer: maybe so, but i want it |
| 22:06.45 | sag_ich_nicht | gimme |
| 22:06.55 | pastamancer | sag_ich_nicht: I'm not gonna do it! |
| 22:07.09 | sag_ich_nicht | it's an awesome visual indicator. |
| 22:07.10 | sag_ich_nicht | gimme. |
| 22:07.48 | Arrowmaster | pastamancer: are you listening to these for other players or yourself? |
| 22:07.58 | pastamancer | Arrowmaster: all units |
| 22:09.08 | sag_ich_nicht | pastamancer: you have seen what happened to other addon authors that have not met my demands, right? |
| 22:09.28 | pastamancer | sag_ich_nicht: you send them valentines? |
| 22:09.40 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik |
| 22:09.41 | sag_ich_nicht | tell him. |
| 22:09.45 | pastamancer | haha |
| 22:09.53 | pastamancer | btw Shirik when will conspiracy be ready? |
| 22:10.12 | sag_ich_nicht | ugh |
| 22:10.13 | sag_ich_nicht | WoW closed |
| 22:10.16 | sag_ich_nicht | AFTER I WAS DONE CONFIGURING |
| 22:10.18 | sag_ich_nicht | FUCK YOU WOW |
| 22:10.20 | sag_ich_nicht | FUCK YOU |
| 22:10.59 | pastamancer | I crashed it with my mind |
| 22:11.21 | sag_ich_nicht | you can not scare me |
| 22:11.37 | sag_ich_nicht | GridLayout:AddLayout("Vertical", { { groupFilter = "1,2,3,4,5", sortMethod = "INDEX" } }) |
| 22:11.38 | sag_ich_nicht | SEE? |
| 22:11.40 | sag_ich_nicht | because |
| 22:11.49 | sag_ich_nicht | i have a copy paste history integrated with my shell |
| 22:11.56 | nevcairiel | why does it have double braces? |
| 22:11.57 | nevcairiel | o.O |
| 22:12.05 | sag_ich_nicht | ask pastamancer |
| 22:12.34 | nevcairiel | ah i remember |
| 22:12.39 | pastamancer | it's a table of tables |
| 22:12.40 | nevcairiel | you can have multiple filters in one layout |
| 22:13.01 | pastamancer | if you had more than one group, there'd be more than one table inside the { } |
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| 22:20.09 | AbsoRayne | God damnit, I cant get my raid frames the way I like em. :/ |
| 22:20.32 | Lopeppeppy | I never can, AbsoRayne |
| 22:20.33 | enum | would this be valid assignment inside a table? table = { a1,a2,a3 = FunctionThatReturnsThree() } |
| 22:20.49 | Drundia | try |
| 22:21.08 | Drundia | !lua local t={a1,a2,a3=1,2,3} |
| 22:21.18 | Drundia | --> local t={a1,a2,a3=1,2,3} |
| 22:21.21 | MentalPower | lua>function FunctionThatReturnsThree() return 1,2,3 end table = { a1,a2,a3 = FunctionThatReturnsThree() } pp(table) |
| 22:21.28 | MentalPower | lua> function FunctionThatReturnsThree() return 1,2,3 end table = { a1,a2,a3 = FunctionThatReturnsThree() } pp(table) |
| 22:21.30 | AbsoRayne | Lopeppeppy: Theres no Dynamic grouping for PitBull, and Grid just looks bad with this UI. :/ |
| 22:21.46 | Drundia | batbot is here but he doesn't seem to reply :( |
| 22:22.17 | Cide | they're all just copycats anyway |
| 22:22.27 | Lopeppeppy | AbsoRayne - I gave up on Pitbull almost instantly, and never liked Grid... I just suck it up with PerfectRaid because at least it answers all of my healer-necessary functions. |
| 22:22.58 | AbsoRayne | Lopeppeppy: I cant get my Grid to look like this: http://www.freewebs.com/absorayne/WoWScrnShot%5F040208%5F203635.png So ill never be happy |
| 22:23.06 | Drundia | well enum... |
| 22:23.10 | AbsoRayne | And I dont want to move my raid frames for every different raid type there is. :; |
| 22:23.13 | enum | hmmm, getting an error from swatter saying " '}' expected (to close '{') |
| 22:23.23 | foxlit | Random plugging: http://www.vimeo.com/870974/ for sheer awesomeness |
| 22:24.25 | MentalPower | >>> function FunctionThatReturnsThree() return 1,2,3 end table = { a1,a2,a3 = FunctionThatReturnsThree() } pp(table) |
| 22:24.31 | MentalPower | >>> function FunctionThatReturnsThree() return 1,2,3 end table = { a1,a2,a3 = FunctionThatReturnsThree() } print(table) |
| 22:24.32 | Cide | MentalPower: { ["a3"] = 1 } (#1) |
| 22:24.42 | foxlit | It gets worse |
| 22:24.52 | MentalPower | enum: ^^^^ |
| 22:24.57 | Drundia | it seems "t = { a1,a2,a3 = FunctionThatReturnsThree() }" results in t[1]=a1, t[2]=s2, t["a3"]=(FunctionThatReturnsThree()) |
| 22:24.58 | foxlit | >>> a1, a2 = "foo", "bar"; function FunctionThatReturnsThree() return 1,2,3 end table = { a1,a2,a3 = FunctionThatReturnsThree() } print(table) |
| 22:24.59 | Cide | foxlit: { "foo", "bar", ["a3"] = 1 } (#1) |
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| 22:25.30 | Drundia | these bots change all the time..... |
| 22:25.59 | Cide | no they don't |
| 22:26.02 | pastamancer | AbsoRayne: you could get it pretty close, but you wouldn't get raid icons or that dot in the center without major hacking |
| 22:26.05 | Cide | besides, I created the first one :P |
| 22:26.19 | Drundia | we used to have lua_bot in old channel |
| 22:26.26 | Drundia | batbot executed some lua too |
| 22:26.32 | Cide | right |
| 22:26.41 | Drundia | i think someone "while true do end"-ed him |
| 22:26.51 | Cide | >>> while true do end |
| 22:26.56 | Cide | Cide: maximum execution time (5s) exceeded |
| 22:27.02 | Drundia | good thing |
| 22:27.03 | Cide | the others do the same thing |
| 22:27.06 | enum | here, maybe this will shed some light on what I mean |
| 22:27.07 | enum | http://wowi.pastey.net/85286 |
| 22:27.25 | foxlit | You're missing a comma |
| 22:27.31 | MentalPower | Drundia: Cide's bot is the first |
| 22:27.31 | Drundia | no, it won't work they way you want, enum |
| 22:27.56 | MentalPower | then came lua_bot ( cladhaire ) and then batbot ( batrick ) |
| 22:28.06 | enum | Drundia: suggestion? |
| 22:28.10 | Drundia | ok, let it be first. but like forgotten |
| 22:28.24 | foxlit | local money, talent, profession = GetTrainer... |
| 22:28.31 | foxlit | then cost = {money, talent, profession} |
| 22:28.34 | Lopeppeppy | AbsoRayne - *HUG* Perfect raid frames do not exist, is very sad |
| 22:28.36 | foxlit | That's not while it doesn't compile, though |
| 22:28.50 | enum | foxlit: they are defined at the top of the function already, shouldn't have to define them again |
| 22:29.11 | foxlit | enum: you can't do multiple assignment within tables |
| 22:29.15 | enum | ah |
| 22:29.32 | Drundia | for what you want to do you should do "t={}; t.money, t.talent, t.profession = GetTrainerServiceCost(i)" |
| 22:29.41 | enum | thanks everyone |
| 22:30.02 | foxlit | And you're still missing a comma at line 4. |
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| 22:37.12 | Tem | s_i_n, I stopped listening to you for "advice" a long, long time ago |
| 22:37.45 | NightHawkTheSane | s/for "advice"//; |
| 22:37.54 | sag_ich_nicht | Tem: it's not my advise tho |
| 22:37.59 | sag_ich_nicht | it's sylvanaar's! |
| 22:38.15 | sylvanaar | guilty |
| 22:38.18 | Tem | you think I take him any more seriously than you in matters of chat? |
| 22:38.25 | Tem | sorry sylvanaar :( |
| 22:38.34 | sylvanaar | :( |
| 22:38.36 | Tem | I'm h8ing on prat |
| 22:38.44 | sylvanaar | you shouldn't |
| 22:38.49 | sylvanaar | its not evil |
| 22:38.50 | Tem | (in case you didn't catch the reference =P) |
| 22:39.17 | Tem | NightHawkTheSane, lol |
| 22:39.51 | sylvanaar | i missed it |
| 22:40.10 | Tem | sylvanaar, you _are_ the prat guy, right? |
| 22:40.16 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 22:40.19 | Tem | okay good |
| 22:40.47 | TecnoBrat | "the prat guy" |
| 22:40.56 | pastamancer | "that prat" |
| 22:41.12 | Tem | basically, if you want that feature in my addon, beg blizzard to send class info along with each chat message |
| 22:41.36 | Tem | (if the network people bitch, tell them to take the space out of the user sendable message) |
| 22:41.42 | sylvanaar | bascially, the new API lets you filter on specific events without hooking anything, and you only filter text in the message itself not for example the playerlinks |
| 22:42.11 | Tem | what new api are you talking about? |
| 22:42.21 | sylvanaar | ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter |
| 22:42.34 | Tem | oh hey, I didn't realize that went in |
| 22:42.37 | sag_ich_nicht | Tem: intentionally not following good practice to annoy other people isn't going to make you popular :P |
| 22:42.38 | sylvanaar | you pass the event and a function callback |
| 22:42.39 | Tem | neat |
| 22:42.42 | sag_ich_nicht | ^^ |
| 22:42.54 | Tem | I'll switch to using that |
| 22:43.03 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 22:43.04 | sag_ich_nicht | Tem |
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| 22:43.17 | sag_ich_nicht | WTB caching so it works for normal chat :/ |
| 22:43.18 | Tem | because it's far superior to hooking chatframe add message calls |
| 22:43.23 | Tem | no |
| 22:43.23 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 22:43.26 | sag_ich_nicht | :( |
| 22:43.28 | sag_ich_nicht | why? :( |
| 22:43.46 | Tem | because if I add it for regular channels, it has to work for everyone in the channel |
| 22:44.02 | Tem | I do not want inconsitency |
| 22:44.12 | Tem | also, I have that feature off atm >< |
| 22:44.34 | Tem | the character position bug would be annoying if it happened to EVERY MESSAGE |
| 22:44.35 | sag_ich_nicht | why? just have a transparent empty icon inserted until information are revieced/cached if you want the position to be consistent |
| 22:44.50 | sag_ich_nicht | transparent empty icon! |
| 22:44.55 | Tem | position has nothing to do with it |
| 22:45.21 | sag_ich_nicht | huh |
| 22:46.06 | Tem | I don't want some players to have icons and some players to not have icons |
| 22:46.09 | Tem | that would look silly |
| 22:46.37 | Tem | and I'm not building a cache to remember the class of EVERY SINGLE PERSON on the server |
| 22:46.54 | sag_ich_nicht | i agree... just steal prats caching code. |
| 22:46.59 | sag_ich_nicht | no need to reinvent the wheel |
| 22:47.06 | Tem | if you want that feature available in all channels, beg blizzard to add that information to the message itself |
| 22:47.18 | sag_ich_nicht | (in b4 flame because of ideological differences with prat) |
| 22:47.31 | sag_ich_nicht | (and yes i AGREE that prat is a tainting son of a bitch) |
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| 22:47.54 | sylvanaar | it taints all the text on the chatframe thats for sure |
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| 22:49.02 | sag_ich_nicht | sylvanaar: last time i used prat it would break everything and taint everything |
| 22:49.06 | sag_ich_nicht | mabye 2.4 fixed that :P |
| 22:49.07 | sag_ich_nicht | i dunno :P |
| 22:49.18 | Tem | The next time I do work on ChatIcons, I'm adding money icons |
| 22:49.22 | sylvanaar | um, idk, i use it |
| 22:49.32 | Tem | and switching to use a less obnoxious way to add my icons |
| 22:49.53 | Tem | but no class cache |
| 22:49.59 | sag_ich_nicht | :( |
| 22:50.13 | sylvanaar | you know you could use WhoLib for a class cache |
| 22:50.21 | Tem | *shudder* |
| 22:50.25 | sylvanaar | that way it'd be optional |
| 22:50.42 | Tem | I _will_not_ use ugly SendWho hacks |
| 22:50.44 | sylvanaar | they can install wholib if they want |
| 22:51.36 | Matrix110| | Or just have the whole Server in your Database :D |
| 22:52.03 | sylvanaar | heh |
| 22:52.17 | Matrix110| | after about 1year of ildleing in the cities and having general/trade on i got around 10k people :D |
| 22:52.18 | Tem | Matrix110|, sounds like a plan! |
| 22:52.38 | Matrix110| | Census recorded 40k so far though :-( |
| 22:52.58 | sylvanaar | personally, i dont store class info myself |
| 22:53.35 | Matrix110| | But i can agree sending a damn w wl m r etc. with the chatmessage wouldnt hurt anyway... |
| 22:53.38 | Matrix110| | *anyone |
| 22:53.44 | sylvanaar | in saved variables i mean |
| 22:54.37 | sag_ich_nicht | that would increase the traffic of WoW by a lot i think |
| 22:54.39 | sag_ich_nicht | AlexanderYoshi? :P |
| 22:56.05 | sylvanaar | i wish bliz had taken my suggestion about filtering out unknown {icon} tags in the chatstream |
| 22:56.24 | Tem | sag_ich_nicht, not if you just take the space you used to hold the class info from the max message length |
| 22:57.14 | Shirik | !ap 1582 |
| 22:57.48 | sylvanaar | would have let us clean up things like item links in private channels ie. enclose them in { } |
| 22:59.18 | Shirik | does C support bitfields? |
| 22:59.27 | Shirik | I really need to get a C book I think |
| 23:00.04 | sylvanaar | what |
| 23:00.07 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 23:00.23 | sylvanaar | you use a colon |
| 23:00.34 | Shirik | thanks |
| 23:00.39 | Shirik | Just wanted to make sure it wasnt a C++ thing |
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| 23:02.42 | sylvanaar | did you ever find anything in wowmatrix Shirik ? |
| 23:03.00 | Shirik | aside from the oddities I cant find anything specific to point at |
| 23:03.12 | Shirik | that doesnt mean its good but doesnt mean its bad either |
| 23:03.16 | ScytheBlade1 | They send your OS version for no apparent reason! |
| 23:03.32 | ScytheBlade1 | And language |
| 23:03.44 | Shirik | and connect to a COM port :P |
| 23:03.56 | Shirik | I think this is just stuff from that system sylvanaar was referring to |
| 23:03.58 | Shirik | hypercard? |
| 23:04.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, same |
| 23:05.00 | ScytheBlade1 | I can see that being a side effect of the language (compiler) for whatever reason |
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| 23:05.45 | Tuller | i've gotten a bunch of people who've been getting my stuff auto updated by using that |
| 23:05.57 | Tuller | the problem being they auto updated from bongos2 to 3 and exploded |
| 23:06.35 | Shirik | my updater refuses to cross boundaries like that ^_^ |
| 23:06.50 | Shirik | well, assuming you uploaded it as a new mod |
| 23:07.46 | Tuller | I did, but not on curse |
| 23:07.57 | Tuller | curse has bongos3 on 2, but as a beta flag |
| 23:08.05 | ScytheBlade1 | And now to open 91238 screenshots and file ~5 omen bugs |
| 23:08.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Yay for a happy printscreen button |
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| 23:09.39 | sylvanaar | btw i made a listing file tool for lua if any of you would like to use it: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=9366.0, its written in C# though |
| 23:10.26 | Shirik | eew C# |
| 23:10.42 | Shirik | I guess Im going to have to learn C# one of these days |
| 23:10.46 | sylvanaar | C# is a luxury language |
| 23:10.57 | sylvanaar | everything is so easy |
| 23:11.20 | Shirik | I hate easy |
| 23:11.22 | Shirik | I like pain |
| 23:11.32 | Shirik | thats why Im a computer engineer :P |
| 23:11.53 | Antiarc | ScytheBlade1: Hehe, woo |
| 23:11.57 | Tuller | C# looked like a, "lets add a lot of stuff" language |
| 23:12.01 | Tuller | but I've not looked at it too much |
| 23:12.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: I've got a few good ones too! |
| 23:12.16 | sylvanaar | actually, C# is quite a respectable language now |
| 23:12.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Actually most all of them are GUI related |
| 23:12.39 | Tuller | I'd write things in it |
| 23:12.47 | Tuller | but I need something to write, first :P |
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| 23:14.01 | sylvanaar | but yeah, they added alot of language features to make developer's lives easier |
| 23:14.14 | Shirik | like __gc? Or is that a Microsoft thing? |
| 23:14.44 | sylvanaar | that is an MS thing |
| 23:15.14 | sylvanaar | its part of managed C++ |
| 23:15.19 | Shirik | does it still let you do things ilke this? |
| 23:15.26 | Shirik | #define KLUA_COND_VAR_TIMEDWAIT(c, m, t) (0==(SleepConditionVariableCS(& (c) , m , (DWORD)((t ->tv_sec * 1000) + (t ->tv_nsec / 1000))))?GetLastError()==ERROR_SEM_TIMEOUT?ETIMEDOUT:GetLastError():0) |
| 23:15.51 | sylvanaar | macros? |
| 23:15.59 | Shirik | unreadable macros |
| 23:16.00 | Shirik | specifically |
| 23:16.02 | WobWork | polo |
| 23:16.07 | WobWork | oh wait. macro |
| 23:16.13 | Shirik | ~lart WobWork |
| 23:16.13 | purl | gives WobWork a "free" copy of Windows and then charges double for "Upgrades" |
| 23:16.21 | sylvanaar | that's not even close to unreadable |
| 23:16.22 | WobWork | woohoo! |
| 23:16.33 | Shirik | batrick was pretty convinced when I wrote it :P |
| 23:17.21 | sylvanaar | add in some intentional side effects, and intra macro redefintions |
| 23:17.34 | Shirik | Im not cruel >< |
| 23:17.38 | TecnoBrat | Shirik, wow ... |
| 23:17.44 | TecnoBrat | thats a "great" line .. |
| 23:18.57 | Shirik | Anyway, I still love C++ because it gives me object orientation while letting me stay low-level |
| 23:19.02 | Shirik | C# seems to be a bit higher level |
| 23:19.06 | Shirik | but I havent looked at it much |
| 23:19.15 | sylvanaar | yeah, i use c/c++ at work |
| 23:19.52 | sylvanaar | but, there are alot of things which dont need to be written so close to the machine |
| 23:20.07 | Shirik | Considering I deal with embedded systems most often :) |
| 23:20.16 | sylvanaar | me too, well, windows ce |
| 23:20.27 | Shirik | I havent really played with windows CE much |
| 23:20.32 | Shirik | I need to look into it though |
| 23:20.44 | sylvanaar | what runs on your devices? |
| 23:20.50 | Tem|Work | Java |
| 23:20.50 | Shirik | VxWorks and QNX |
| 23:20.51 | Tem|Work | lol |
| 23:20.57 | Shirik | ~kill Tem|Work |
| 23:20.58 | purl | ACTION shoots a excited pseudoproton gun at Tem|Work |
| 23:21.08 | sylvanaar | lol@java |
| 23:21.16 | Shirik | That was one fricking robot |
| 23:21.20 | Shirik | and I didnt design that one |
| 23:21.24 | Shirik | and all it had was a java chip >.> |
| 23:22.07 | Shirik | the speed showed too |
| 23:22.13 | Shirik | some of the operations took about 300ms to complete |
| 23:22.20 | Shirik | which is way too long |
| 23:22.38 | sylvanaar | i tried to use ecplise this weekend - first time since 2004. I am soooooo used to MS making my life easier. Eclipse was a holy terror. |
| 23:22.59 | TecnoBrat | its a bogged down piece of crap :P |
| 23:23.06 | Shirik | Eclipse makes me cry |
| 23:23.10 | sylvanaar | me too |
| 23:23.12 | Shirik | I am growing fond of netbeans though |
| 23:23.13 | TecnoBrat | <3 textmate |
| 23:23.22 | Shirik | But visual studio is the one thing Microsoft really got right |
| 23:23.22 | bleeter | emacs or death |
| 23:23.41 | Shirik | except Visual C++ 6.0 |
| 23:23.43 | Shirik | that was crap |
| 23:23.46 | Shirik | but other than that... |
| 23:23.54 | sylvanaar | yes VS2008 is so wonderful |
| 23:24.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: have -45, with one more coming your way in a moment |
| 23:24.21 | Shirik | finally someone that agrees with me >.> |
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| 23:25.47 | sylvanaar | Do you use visual assist? |
| 23:26.11 | Shirik | hm, dont know what that is so going to guess not |
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| 23:26.41 | sylvanaar | enhances intellisense and coloring and a bunch of other stuff |
| 23:26.51 | sylvanaar | www.wholetomato.com $50 |
| 23:27.19 | Shirik | interesting |
| 23:27.37 | sylvanaar | i have been using it for 8+ years |
| 23:28.19 | sylvanaar | it really helped back on the VS6 based ide's but it is still quite useful |
| 23:28.32 | sylvanaar | er VC6 |
| 23:30.49 | Tekkub | woot! discovered we have a russian in our guild |
| 23:30.57 | Tekkub | got lots of good bearish names :) |
| 23:32.38 | pastamancer | misha? |
| 23:32.49 | Tekkub | Detyonysh |
| 23:32.59 | Tekkub | I already have Mishutka |
| 23:33.25 | batrick | for the record, I do not approve of shirik's ugly macros |
| 23:33.25 | batrick | =) |
| 23:33.30 | pastamancer | Zangief? :p |
| 23:33.30 | pastamancer | now he was totally a bear |
| 23:33.43 | Kirov | Mine's a russian name |
| 23:33.44 | Tekkub | he was totally a big ol homo too :) |
| 23:33.55 | Shirik | its ok batrick, your beautiful Linux code will never see it |
| 23:33.57 | Kirov | well, it's a russian battle ship and a russian ballet |
| 23:34.07 | Shirik | I also need a place to check for termination request |
| 23:34.11 | Tekkub | I still need to do a Zangief mohawk before my blad spot grows in |
| 23:34.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: okay, done spamming until I can get more screenshots. Enjoy |
| 23:35.32 | Antiarc | Thanks |
| 23:36.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah. Delete the second screenshot on -45, I shouldn't have attached it there |
| 23:38.15 | Shirik | batrick: What are you doing at 202 of filum.c? |
| 23:38.27 | Shirik | if (gettimeofday(... etc etc |
| 23:38.30 | Shirik | that whole block |
| 23:39.12 | Cide | hey Shirik |
| 23:39.18 | Shirik | rawr |
| 23:40.40 | Shirik | Cide? |
| 23:40.47 | Cide | oh, I was just saying hi |
| 23:40.52 | Shirik | oh, hi |
| 23:41.53 | Cide | I tried to think of some way to mock you, but alas, I fail |
| 23:42.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide: you can always just used ~failrik. It's never out of style, or out of palce |
| 23:42.25 | ScytheBlade1 | *place |
| 23:42.38 | Cide | true |
| 23:42.39 | Cide | ~failrik |
| 23:42.39 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 23:45.10 | Cide | I had totally forgotten about that |
| 23:45.22 | Cide | but I agree that it's pretty much amazing |
| 23:46.02 | Cide | unrelated: does anyone know of some software to simulate a collision with well-defined properties? :/ |
| 23:46.54 | Tekkub | I find it funner to do it for realziez |
| 23:46.55 | Corrodias | no, but i've found that throwing cothe computer itself often works quite well |
| 23:46.58 | Shirik | rofl Ciede |
| 23:47.01 | Shirik | still same problem? |
| 23:47.06 | Cide | maybe :/ |
| 23:47.12 | Shirik | my robot simulates collisions pretty well |
| 23:47.20 | Shirik | in fact, it doesnt simulate them. It just collides really well |
| 23:47.23 | Cide | I need to figure out if the results I'm seeing are realistic |
| 23:47.26 | Cide | nice one |
| 23:47.41 | Tekkub | Cats work well, though it throws the "wel defined" out the window |
| 23:47.59 | Tekkub | if you have a non-carpet florr, spin them a bunch on it first |
| 23:48.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: I'm going to stick my guild one one Omen revision a week. Likewise, if there is anything you want tested before Thursday, or a specific revision, let me know. |
| 23:48.08 | Tekkub | then release them near a wall |
| 23:48.18 | Cide | yeah, I think not |
| 23:49.36 | Antiarc | ScytheBlade1: Will do. Make it a revision from today, good fixes today :) |
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| 23:51.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: I'll be making it whatever the latest revision is on Wednesday, as our "raid week" starts over Thursday, giving them a day in advance. Unless one specific revision would work better ;) |
| 23:51.20 | Antiarc | Cool. And the latest is always best unless it's horribly broken :P |
| 23:51.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Haha |
| 23:51.32 | ScytheBlade1 | plz2nobreakitWednesdayNight |
| 23:51.37 | ScytheBlade1 | They'd hate me :( |
| 23:54.24 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm pretty sure my entire guild already hates Antiarc :P |
| 23:54.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh same here, no doubt. The amount of emo my GM has displayed over the updates is nothing short of impressive. |
| 23:55.09 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 23:55.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Hence why I'm sticking them on one specific revision a week ;) |
| 23:56.02 | NightHawkTheSane | i've long since given up caring about their bitching. *shrug* its mostly "wah wah, i never learned how to dps without a working threat meter", followed by "wah wah, omen updates too much" :P |
| 23:56.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh, yeah |
| 23:56.19 | Tekkub | yea agreed |
| 23:56.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Though I've never voiced my opinions on the first |
| 23:56.33 | ScytheBlade1 | l2playthegame imo |
| 23:56.42 | Tekkub | I understand some fight they're a necessity, but the mass majority they're just HANDY |
| 23:57.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Only fight I've seen where they are a necessity is Gruul |
| 23:57.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Due to the "hey guyz I'm about to HURTFUL STRIKE YOUR MELEE TO DEATH" |
| 23:57.18 | Antiarc | NightHawkTheSane: Tell them that I could just stop updating and leave the bugs in |
| 23:57.19 | Tekkub | nightbane is the one I think people usually cry about |
| 23:57.25 | Antiarc | Then they'd have pretty but useless bars all over their screens |
| 23:57.32 | Antiarc | But hey, at least Omen wouldn't be updated. |
| 23:57.45 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: haha, I may have said that at one point, actually. :P |
| 23:57.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: for what it is worth, every other post on my guild forums that complain about it, also mentions that they're glad it's being fixed |
| 23:58.10 | ScytheBlade1 | They just want to hurt you too :) |
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| 23:58.48 | Corrodias | i want to hurt you sensually |
| 23:59.37 | Antiarc | ScytheBlade1 / NightHawkTheSane: http://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_040608_173538.jpg |
