| 00:02.48 | lagger` | do fontstrings not scale with frame scale? |
| 00:03.02 | lagger` | the parents scale |
| 00:05.11 | sag_ich_nicht | link massresurection in trade=lol |
| 00:06.41 | Drundia | you just need to get spell id from thott and you can link anything |
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| 00:08.24 | Tem | rofl |
| 00:08.31 | Tem | a bank alt named Carltonbanks |
| 00:09.29 | ag` | how fresh |
| 00:09.59 | Duman | heh |
| 00:10.10 | Cairenn | rofl |
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| 00:37.56 | End | wow |
| 00:38.04 | End | my net connection has gone to shit |
| 00:39.23 | Iriel | lagger`: Scale is inherited |
| 00:40.18 | Iriel | so if you double the parent's scale, all of its descendents EFFECTIVE scale doubles |
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| 00:43.24 | End | wow mag got nerfed |
| 00:44.25 | Corrodias | again in this patch, or the one a few patches ago? |
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| 00:44.34 | nevcairiel | again this patch |
| 00:44.37 | nevcairiel | he is a joke now |
| 00:44.53 | nevcairiel | easier then gruul, imho |
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| 00:50.26 | Cide | who? illidan? |
| 00:50.36 | Cide | kil'jaeden?! |
| 00:50.59 | Wobin | Hogger? |
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| 00:53.40 | End | definitely hogger |
| 00:53.53 | Cide | consider me cynical, but am I the only one not buying wowui's reason for shutting down UIC? |
| 00:54.21 | End | I'm a little bit skeptical, but I wasn't gonna worry about it too much |
| 00:54.39 | Cide | I really don't care at all |
| 00:54.43 | Cide | just found it funny |
| 00:55.04 | End | indeed |
| 00:57.38 | Cairenn | what do you think is the real reason? |
| 00:57.50 | Cide | oh, I don't know... |
| 00:58.20 | Lopeppeppy | Another keylogger? |
| 00:58.26 | Cairenn | omg |
| 00:58.29 | Cairenn | you think? |
| 01:01.26 | Nechckn | you mean in the UIC app? |
| 01:02.05 | Nechckn | or just on the site somewhere |
| 01:05.19 | lagger` | Iriel: i think fontstrings don't have a scale. I could only change the font size by changing the height |
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| 01:10.21 | Drundia | of course they do |
| 01:12.33 | Iriel | Everything has a scale |
| 01:13.03 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 01:13.05 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight doesn't |
| 01:13.33 | Iriel | font strings are interesting beasts though, the interaction between scale and font height can be confusing. |
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| 01:19.11 | AlexanderYoshi | CT MOD IS A KEY LOGGAR |
| 01:19.17 | AlexanderYoshi | Don't use! |
| 01:19.24 | AlexanderYoshi | :-P |
| 01:19.29 | Iriel | Slow day? |
| 01:19.35 | AlexanderYoshi | IRIEL IS A KEY LOGGER |
| 01:19.37 | AlexanderYoshi | DONT LISTEN |
| 01:19.43 | AlexanderYoshi | He'll key log your mind! |
| 01:19.49 | Drundia | this channel is key logger! |
| 01:19.54 | sag_ich_nicht | ALEXANDERYOSHI THERE IS A KEYLOGGER ON YOUR PC |
| 01:19.55 | sag_ich_nicht | QUICK |
| 01:19.57 | AlexanderYoshi | OH NO |
| 01:19.59 | AlexanderYoshi | SAVEME |
| 01:20.04 | sag_ich_nicht | SEND IT AND ALL SECRET DOCUMENTS TO ME SO I CAN REMOVE IT |
| 01:20.11 | kd3 | we're all gonna die! aaaah! |
| 01:20.27 | sag_ich_nicht | s/TO ME/ON IT TO ME/ |
| 01:20.56 | Drundia | about fontstrings: final font height (after all scaling) seems to be limited to certain values (likely integers) so small changes to scale or fontheight may yield no visual change |
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| 01:21.54 | sag_ich_nicht | AlexanderYoshi: PROTIP: don't use trillian as client |
| 01:21.56 | sag_ich_nicht | get mIRC :P |
| 01:22.01 | AlexanderYoshi | hahah |
| 01:22.11 | sag_ich_nicht | or get the astra alpha |
| 01:22.13 | sag_ich_nicht | like i have |
| 01:22.13 | AlexanderYoshi | how did you like those secret docs |
| 01:22.19 | sag_ich_nicht | i couldn't get them fool |
| 01:22.24 | sag_ich_nicht | because your IRC client sucks |
| 01:22.26 | sag_ich_nicht | and fails at passive DCC |
| 01:22.29 | sag_ich_nicht | and you are behind a firewall |
| 01:23.13 | sag_ich_nicht | (or upload it to imageshack) |
| 01:23.15 | Slackwise | mIRC? lol |
| 01:23.24 | sag_ich_nicht | he's on windows :P |
| 01:23.36 | Slackwise | And many clients are available on Windows. |
| 01:23.40 | Slackwise | Many, many, clients. |
| 01:23.43 | sag_ich_nicht | and mIRC is a good client... at least since they fixed the unicode/UTF-8 issue :) |
| 01:23.56 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah, but i like mIRC and you won |
| 01:24.04 | Slackwise | mIRC lacks Ruby scripting support, so it's weak for me. |
| 01:24.11 | sag_ich_nicht | look |
| 01:24.13 | sag_ich_nicht | no. |
| 01:24.36 | sag_ich_nicht | if you get me started on scripting i'll reconnect with irssi and fuck you over with gay.pl and dau.pl |
| 01:24.48 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 01:24.59 | sag_ich_nicht | (no, don't ask what those are) |
| 01:25.06 | Slackwise | Uhh, okay. |
| 01:25.36 | Slackwise | You go enjoy your gay script, sir. |
| 01:25.46 | Slackwise | And by all means, keep it to yourself. |
| 01:27.03 | End | what* |
| 01:27.06 | End | :P |
| 01:28.17 | sag_ich_nicht | i won't tell you tho |
| 01:28.26 | sag_ich_nicht | and a strongly advise you against researching them |
| 01:29.08 | sag_ich_nicht | s/and a/and i/ |
| 01:31.29 | AlexanderYoshi | zzzz.... |
| 01:32.12 | sag_ich_nicht | AlexanderYoshi upload that image to imageshack >:( |
| 01:32.36 | AlexanderYoshi | no |
| 01:32.41 | AlexanderYoshi | its just a chick anyways |
| 01:32.55 | AlexanderYoshi | you wouldn't appreciate it and I have no gay pron for you |
| 01:32.56 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 01:33.00 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 01:33.24 | sag_ich_nicht | no gay.pl is a perl script for trolling, written by the GNAA |
| 01:33.28 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 01:33.59 | sag_ich_nicht | and i'm straight so yeah i guess i'd appreciate it(unless she's i dunno, old as hell) |
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| 01:51.24 | sag_ich_nicht | what WoW needs |
| 01:51.27 | sag_ich_nicht | for the BGs |
| 01:51.35 | sag_ich_nicht | is an introduction to the BG maps |
| 01:51.39 | sag_ich_nicht | like in Team Fortress 2 |
| 01:52.40 | Industrial | It needs an introduction with a few npc's that use strategy based on what you are doing before you are allowed to even play in bg |
| 01:52.47 | Industrial | that'd level the playing field a bit. |
| 01:52.54 | Industrial | for the eople that know what they are doing |
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| 01:54.40 | Drundia | some people never learn |
| 01:54.56 | Industrial | so they cant play with me |
| 01:54.57 | Industrial | good :D? |
| 01:55.18 | sag_ich_nicht | /agree |
| 01:55.20 | Industrial | on the otehr hand I dont want to be playing with all-t3 people :| |
| 01:55.21 | Drundia | so you need to pass a kind of test before you can play real bg? |
| 01:55.39 | Industrial | Drundia: no, it'd be nice. I'm just thinking out loud. |
| 01:56.19 | Drundia | i already think that premades would fight in "noob bracket". well, yeah it's good idea but as everything too exploitable |
| 01:57.47 | Nechckn | I thought the "Peeling the Artichoke" was quite informative- for AV. It's not been updated, though. |
| 01:57.59 | Industrial | Peeling the Onion |
| 01:58.19 | Nechckn | was it onion... meh.. whatever |
| 01:58.36 | Nechckn | I was sort of torn between the two names but thought Artichoke for some reason |
| 01:58.43 | Drundia | they should just bring in old AV now that diminishing returns are eliminated |
| 01:58.47 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 01:58.52 | sag_ich_nicht | it's peeling the artichoke |
| 01:58.54 | sag_ich_nicht | at least for alliance |
| 01:58.57 | sag_ich_nicht | dunno bout horde |
| 01:59.04 | Nechckn | Oh... maybe 1 of each |
| 01:59.08 | Drundia | and maybe award everyone with some honor every x kills to provide a reasonable honor gain |
| 01:59.11 | sag_ich_nicht | Nechckn: NOBODY READS TEXT |
| 01:59.13 | sag_ich_nicht | at least |
| 01:59.14 | Drundia | onion for horde |
| 01:59.18 | sag_ich_nicht | not the people that fuck up BGs |
| 01:59.19 | kd3 | wth? fark: [Amusing] Not News: 27-year old arrested for assault with a weapon, News: Victim is a 15-year old boy, Fark: Weapon was a hedgehog |
| 01:59.32 | Nechckn | sag_ich_nicht I am nobody =) |
| 01:59.41 | sag_ich_nicht | Nechckn: no my point is |
| 01:59.45 | sag_ich_nicht | if you were to use a VIDEO |
| 01:59.48 | Nechckn | I gotcha man |
| 01:59.50 | sag_ich_nicht | people would WATCH it |
| 01:59.55 | sag_ich_nicht | even STUPID people |
| 02:00.00 | Nechckn | maybe =) |
| 02:00.09 | sag_ich_nicht | more than those that would read text |
| 02:00.10 | sag_ich_nicht | :) |
| 02:00.35 | Nechckn | Well, perhaps a sort of expanded cutscene laying out the basic tenants would help |
| 02:01.40 | Nechckn | showing a quick swoop through, explaining what happens when you hit X tower/bunker, kill the Captains, function of resources- I gotcha and think that makes far too much sense. |
| 02:01.47 | sag_ich_nicht | yupp |
| 02:01.52 | sag_ich_nicht | that's what i meant |
| 02:04.32 | Nechckn | or... it could just fly to the center and show lots of blood and be like "kill stuff here == nOOB" that could get the idea across faster |
| 02:05.33 | sag_ich_nicht | lol. |
| 02:05.39 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 02:05.44 | sag_ich_nicht | it'd have to use one = |
| 02:05.45 | sag_ich_nicht | not 2. |
| 02:05.52 | sag_ich_nicht | noobs don't know ==. |
| 02:06.31 | Nechckn | fair enough =) |
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| 02:07.20 | Nechckn | Hmm, I'll have to check out my video creation skills, I may do just that |
| 02:08.12 | sag_ich_nicht | Nechckn: make a post on the forums and repost it until blizz integrates it |
| 02:08.17 | sag_ich_nicht | :> |
| 02:09.05 | Industrial | see peeling an onion is done in several layers |
| 02:09.20 | Industrial | an artichoke doesnt have as many layers as an onion |
| 02:09.21 | Industrial | therefore |
| 02:09.38 | Industrial | ALLIANCE ALWAYS WINS CUZ ITS HARDER FOR HORDE |
| 02:09.53 | sag_ich_nicht | lmao |
| 02:09.59 | sag_ich_nicht | this explains everything |
| 02:10.03 | sag_ich_nicht | TO THE FORUMS! |
| 02:10.06 | Industrial | xD |
| 02:10.16 | Industrial | I haven't actually ever posted on the forums |
| 02:10.27 | Industrial | nor do I intend to |
| 02:10.32 | sag_ich_nicht | actually i'll post this on the enGB forums now |
| 02:10.41 | Industrial | use my nick! >:o |
| 02:10.46 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 02:10.47 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 02:10.49 | Industrial | :( |
| 02:11.31 | sag_ich_nicht | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=3545385150&postId=35449862914&sid=1#0 |
| 02:12.27 | Industrial | <3 |
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| 02:15.10 | Nechckn | Ha, very nice |
| 02:16.35 | Industrial | sag_ich_nicht: I posted :o |
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| 02:21.23 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 02:26.46 | Nechckn | You crazy Euros! |
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| 02:44.07 | AbsoRayne | Whats the command for Stopattack again? |
| 02:44.31 | AbsoRayne | well, Auto attack |
| 02:44.38 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:44.51 | AbsoRayne | Doesnt work, Autoattack continues |
| 02:45.12 | AbsoRayne | oh |
| 02:45.13 | AbsoRayne | nm |
| 02:45.17 | AbsoRayne | im friggin stupid, forgot a T |
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| 02:53.13 | eddiedrizzt | whats a good book for someone wanting to learn lua |
| 02:53.20 | Arrowmaster | pil |
| 02:53.23 | Arrowmaster | ~pil |
| 02:53.24 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 02:53.49 | eddiedrizzt | kk |
| 02:55.23 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34348 <--another wand with holy damage GOD THAT TOOK A LONG TIME |
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| 03:29.33 | Kandoko | Can AceComm-3.0 send data to a custom channel? Or is it limited to the addon channel? |
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| 03:33.51 | eddiedrizzt | that lua programing book is expenive anuf |
| 03:34.27 | MentalPower | PiL?\ |
| 03:34.32 | eddiedrizzt | *expensive |
| 03:34.37 | eddiedrizzt | ya |
| 03:34.51 | MentalPower | ~pil |
| 03:34.52 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 03:35.53 | eddiedrizzt | ya sells for 30 some us |
| 03:35.55 | MentalPower | I bought both for $40 |
| 03:36.11 | MentalPower | http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/8590379825/lua-pilindex-20 |
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| 03:37.49 | eddiedrizzt | pil and the Reference Manual |
| 03:38.42 | MentalPower | yup |
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| 03:43.47 | Drundia | what good is there in pil? |
| 03:45.48 | Cairenn | ~eyes |
| 03:45.49 | purl | rumour has it, eyes is what eyes says whens is gots plurlalsizations fevers, or "masz pijkne oczy" |
| 03:45.54 | Cairenn | grrr |
| 03:45.57 | Cairenn | ~rolleyes |
| 03:46.04 | Cairenn | ~sigh |
| 03:46.05 | purl | *sigh* |
| 03:46.26 | ZealotOnAStick | ~eyeroll |
| 03:46.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: careful. The bot has been known to retaliate on occasion. ;) |
| 03:46.31 | ZealotOnAStick | hrm. |
| 03:46.46 | ZealotOnAStick | bad purl! |
| 03:46.48 | Cairenn | I can't remember what the factoid was, and I'm the one that made it! |
| 03:47.32 | sag_ich_nicht | sadasd |
| 03:47.34 | sag_ich_nicht | okay |
| 03:47.37 | sag_ich_nicht | fuck you mIRC |
| 03:47.37 | sag_ich_nicht | hold on |
| 03:47.43 | Cairenn | heh |
| 03:47.43 | sag_ich_nicht | Domain name: wowmatrix.com |
| 03:47.43 | sag_ich_nicht | Administrative Contact: |
| 03:47.43 | sag_ich_nicht | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:47.43 | sag_ich_nicht | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:47.43 | sag_ich_nicht | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:47.44 | sag_ich_nicht | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:47.46 | sag_ich_nicht | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:47.48 | sag_ich_nicht | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:47.50 | sag_ich_nicht | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:47.52 | sag_ich_nicht | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:47.54 | sag_ich_nicht | I SMELL ROTTEN FISH |
| 03:48.28 | sag_ich_nicht | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=D23F17F3226C0652B02AF3D8BEED7C90?topicId=4665461802&sid=1 <--also this thread |
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| 03:54.21 | AbsoRayne | God |
| 03:54.26 | AbsoRayne | LUA sucks somtimes |
| 03:54.32 | MentalPower | ~lua |
| 03:54.32 | purl | Lua is a powerful light-weight programming language designed for extending applications. It is often used as a configuration language. See http://www.lua.org/. Note: Lua is not an acronym its a word in Portuguese that means "moon". |
| 03:54.49 | MentalPower | Lua is not an acronym its a word in Portuguese that means "moon". |
| 03:55.46 | eddiedrizzt | i see some one has a irc bot |
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| 03:56.14 | MentalPower | eddiedrizzt: there are several here |
| 03:56.26 | eddiedrizzt | ya |
| 03:56.50 | eddiedrizzt | im still new to the irc |
| 03:57.06 | eddiedrizzt | hell i dont even know what nikserv is |
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| 03:58.16 | MentalPower | ./msg nickserv help |
| 03:58.27 | Drundia | that reminds me that i'd like ChanServ in WOW and ability to send links in private channels |
| 03:58.49 | Drundia | but somehow i think it was suggested 8956235962 times and was rejected |
| 03:59.05 | MentalPower | yup |
| 03:59.22 | dylanm | ChatLink works fine... been running that for a while. |
| 03:59.34 | Drundia | but recipient needs it too |
| 04:00.53 | dylanm | Yeah. |
| 04:01.02 | dylanm | But I figure you're in private channels with people that will listen to you. |
| 04:01.26 | Drundia | there are always people that don't get "necessary" addons |
| 04:02.34 | MentalPower | cause its kinda contradictory |
| 04:02.54 | Mike-N-Go | Anyone else have problems with ZG at Rajaxx's Army? |
| 04:03.02 | Mike-N-Go | Er |
| 04:03.04 | Mike-N-Go | AQ |
| 04:03.12 | Guillotin1 | I really don't see why chat links aren't allowed in custom channels |
| 04:03.16 | Mike-N-Go | Anyone else have problems with AQ at Rajaxx's Army?* |
| 04:03.19 | Guillotin1 | its not like it increases the data sent to hte server |
| 04:03.21 | Drundia | wasn't it bugged most of the time and never fixed? |
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| 04:03.59 | Guillotine | I know why they made it unlinkable in general, but never understood why they did so in custom channels |
| 04:04.02 | Drundia | i think because it was default setting for all changes and then links were allowed in trade when it was added |
| 04:04.03 | Tem | Mike-N-Go, you mean like 2 years ago? |
| 04:04.06 | Tem | or like problems now? |
| 04:04.24 | Drundia | s/changes/channels |
| 04:04.26 | Drundia | s/changes/channels/ |
| 04:04.40 | Drundia | ~fail Drundia |
| 04:04.41 | purl | Drundia, you Fail! |
| 04:05.02 | Mike-N-Go | The encounter bugged out on my team. |
| 04:05.24 | Mike-N-Go | Repeated many bosses.. and they responed. |
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| 04:07.33 | kellewic | hello all... I have a question on frames if you don't mind... |
| 04:07.44 | batrick | eddiedrizzt: pil is one of the best technical books i've had the pleasure of reading, it's worth every penny :P |
| 04:07.49 | kellewic | I am trying to find out what the name of the frame (this is on my warrior) is where the PetActionBarFrame would be on a caster... |
| 04:08.08 | kellewic | it seems to have a different name, but it's in the same location... I went through all the frames I could find in the Blizzard UI and can't locate it. |
| 04:08.24 | batrick | is it a default frame? |
| 04:08.35 | kellewic | It has the warrior stances on it |
| 04:09.09 | kellewic | I guess it's a default frame since the stances are automatically added there |
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| 04:09.31 | Drundia | isn't one BonusActionBarFrame and other PetActionBarFrame? |
| 04:09.51 | kellewic | I can show/hide the BonusActionBarFrame and that's not it |
| 04:10.15 | Drundia | is it really not the same? :O |
| 04:10.48 | batrick | I believe DevTools allows you to figure out what the frame is under your cursor |
| 04:10.56 | kellewic | is that an addon? |
| 04:10.59 | Wobin | I <3 portal |
| 04:11.01 | batrick | ~devtools |
| 04:11.01 | purl | Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet? |
| 04:11.05 | kellewic | I am using Luapad to run commands |
| 04:11.07 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:11.40 | batrick | what tem said will probably give you one of the buttons, but you can find the buttons parent's name |
| 04:12.02 | Tem | ah yeah, that too |
| 04:12.10 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:12.14 | kellewic | tem... thanks for that tip :) |
| 04:12.22 | Tem | but yeah, the best way is devools /dtframestack |
| 04:12.34 | Tem | what I posted only works for frames that are mouse enabled |
| 04:12.53 | kellewic | says it's the ShapeshitButton1... so I assume on the ShapeshiftBarFrame |
| 04:13.01 | Drundia | I'm pretty sure I was playing with PetActionBarFrame on my Warlock |
| 04:13.07 | kellewic | I swear I tried to toggle that and nothing happened |
| 04:13.12 | Drundia | well it's likely shapeshifts for druids |
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| 04:13.38 | kellewic | well... it's saying that for my warrior :)... who definitely cannot shapeshift |
| 04:14.33 | kellewic | well crap... I must've spelled it wrong last time... it is the ShapeshiftBarFrame... I prob did ShapeShift with the cap S |
| 04:15.39 | kellewic | thanks all... esp you Tem... that little nugget would have saved me a lot of hassle earlier :) |
| 04:16.02 | kellewic | time to mess up more of my UI now... :) |
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| 04:26.42 | kellewic | I have another question related to frames that makes no sense |
| 04:26.53 | kellewic | why is this BonusActionBarFrame overlaid on the normal ActionBar (MainMenuBarArtFrame)? Is it suppose to be like that? |
| 04:27.44 | kellewic | sorry, but this is my first foray into the UI and the only real docs I can find are the Blizzard files, which have little to no comments |
| 04:29.41 | Iriel | What do you mean by 'overlaid' ? |
| 04:29.55 | kellewic | it is directly on top and hides the actual action bars |
| 04:30.12 | kellewic | I only see this "bonus" frame on my warrior |
| 04:30.16 | kellewic | it doesn't appear on my warlock |
| 04:30.21 | Iriel | ah yes, warriors |
| 04:30.23 | MentalPower | its based on stance |
| 04:30.25 | Iriel | it's supposed to do that |
| 04:30.43 | MentalPower | it does the same for priests and druids |
| 04:30.46 | MentalPower | and rogues |
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| 04:31.16 | Drundia | it also happens when you directly control other unit |
| 04:31.24 | kellewic | well damn... that explains why all my hot buttons disappeared when I got Defensive Stance |
| 04:32.02 | kellewic | guess I'll have to read up what those even do... new to WoW in general |
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| 04:38.10 | Guillotine | hmm, would anybody find a Push/Pop OO lib useful? If not, I'll just do this for the one addon instead of writing a library |
| 04:39.19 | Iriel | I'm not sure I understand what you mean by that |
| 04:39.30 | kd3 | oh wow... that's random |
| 04:39.44 | kd3 | apparently they broke naxx. heigan's on the ground below the instance proper |
| 04:40.03 | MentalPower | kd3: people still do naxx? |
| 04:40.19 | kd3 | ya... hell, I ran MC last week |
| 04:40.26 | MentalPower | MCs diff |
| 04:40.34 | MentalPower | MC's* |
| 04:40.40 | MentalPower | its like Onyxia |
| 04:40.46 | MentalPower | its nostalgic |
| 04:41.40 | Drundia | and naxx is something most people never tried |
| 04:45.08 | Xinhuan | how would a push/pop library be useful, given that any lua table can be used as a stack easily |
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| 04:46.27 | Guillotine | Xinhuan: a normal library doesn't clear itself once values have been used |
| 04:46.31 | Guillotine | err, normal table |
| 04:46.40 | Guillotine | I suppose this really is more specific to what I need |
| 04:46.48 | Xinhuan | clear itself? what do you mean |
| 04:46.55 | Guillotine | Once the addon is done you'll see what I mean :P |
| 04:47.02 | Xinhuan | only takes about 10 lines of code to write table recycling code ;p |
| 04:47.24 | Guillotine | Its kind of hard to explain without going through exactly what I'm doing. You'll see by tomorrow though :P |
| 04:47.31 | Guillotine | and yah, its going to be a very small library |
| 04:48.06 | Xinhuan | i don't believe in table recycling libraries ;p |
| 04:48.29 | Guillotine | thats not really what I mean |
| 04:48.36 | Xinhuan | causes issues if one addon doesn't free up a table reference properly |
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| 05:34.37 | Wobin | argh |
| 05:34.46 | Wobin | DST is screwing me around |
| 05:35.01 | Nom | lol |
| 05:40.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Boo |
| 05:40.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Kael just dropped his mount (5-man) |
| 05:40.13 | ScytheBlade1 | I lost the roll by 12 |
| 05:40.15 | ScytheBlade1 | slkjsklgjwklgjawogaeiowgh94238ty2 |
| 05:41.08 | Kirov | Anyone know of an addon that adds irc style tab name complete? |
| 05:42.20 | ScytheBlade1 | prat |
| 05:44.38 | Kirov | damn, I'm stayed away from prat for so long ... |
| 05:44.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Any special reason? |
| 05:45.17 | Kirov | usually had other things that did what prat did |
| 05:45.20 | ScytheBlade1 | I heard that Prat was awesome for a good year before I started using it |
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| 05:48.16 | Tem | Does prince drop 2 hats or just one? |
| 05:48.39 | pastamancer | 2 now IIRC |
| 05:48.40 | Kirov | 2 now, I think |
| 05:48.42 | pastamancer | since 2.4 |
| 05:48.48 | Tem | neat |
| 05:48.53 | pastamancer | all token-dropping bosses drop double |
| 05:49.06 | Tem | curator only dropped one |
| 05:49.20 | pastamancer | curator dropped 2 earlier today for me |
| 05:49.31 | pastamancer | I think |
| 05:49.43 | batrick | shirik still MIA? |
| 05:49.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Looks like it |
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| 05:58.38 | Guillotine | HAHAHA, success |
| 05:58.49 | Guillotine | TTS in an addon :D |
| 05:59.27 | Guillotine | sweet |
| 05:59.30 | Guillotine | and it doesn't sound half bad |
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| 06:01.03 | kd3 | o_O; |
| 06:01.43 | Tem | Guillotine, text to speach? |
| 06:01.46 | Guillotine | yup |
| 06:01.49 | Tem | oh wow nice |
| 06:01.59 | Guillotine | though my accent weighs a bit heavily since I had to record the phenomes myself |
| 06:02.05 | Guillotine | so far only have a couple for testing |
| 06:02.07 | kd3 | how the hell...? |
| 06:02.07 | kd3 | ah |
| 06:02.13 | Dotted | Funkeh` ping |
| 06:02.32 | Guillotine | So if anybody else can find .wav or .mp3 files of phenomes online, it would make it better :D |
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| 06:03.14 | Dotted | Guillotine omg |
| 06:05.22 | kd3 | AlexanderYoshi, ping. did anyone ever test against spell vulnerable mobs in the combat log? |
| 06:05.26 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5754386374 |
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| 06:06.23 | athos | hello all |
| 06:06.30 | Cairenn | hi |
| 06:07.13 | athos | Can someone help me out with writing an addon. Just a couple questions...Its my first one |
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| 06:07.59 | Guillotine | ~irc |
| 06:07.59 | purl | "Welcome to IRC: where the men are men, the women are men, and the little girls are FBI agents." |
| 06:08.04 | Guillotine | hmm, thats not it |
| 06:08.09 | Guillotine | "Don't ask to ask" |
| 06:08.23 | Guillotine | athos: What question do you have? |
| 06:08.30 | kd3 | ~asktoask |
| 06:08.30 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 06:09.21 | athos | kk. I just started using the addon studio...and my addon idea is for nonhunters basically, a target addon. with a text box u can enter the name of the mob and click the button to target it if it is around... |
| 06:10.07 | athos | Problem is...I have no clue where to start...the addon studio tutorial is useless...unless I want to say hi to everyone like it shows |
| 06:10.08 | MentalPower | I don't think that will work in combat |
| 06:10.47 | Guillotine | as long as you set it out of combat it will work in combat |
| 06:10.54 | Guillotine | but you probably don't want to do that as your first addon |
| 06:11.01 | Guillotine | Secure frames are kind of complicated |
| 06:11.02 | athos | not really combat..for example...trying to find the blood elf bandit in azuremyst. I can make a macro (/target blood elf bandit) and spam that. |
| 06:11.13 | athos | ahh...ok |
| 06:12.48 | athos | i tend to use that macro quite often while running around looking for a mob...I'll fill it in with the name, and spam it. But I'm lazy in game...so i dont want to open the macro all the time. |
| 06:13.06 | athos | which sounds odd being lazy in game, and wanting to make an addon out of game....hmmm |
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| 06:14.23 | Guillotine | If you just want an addon that does stuff like that, IHML does it |
| 06:14.34 | Guillotine | I think its on all the major addon sites (including WoWAce) |
| 06:15.52 | athos | ok, I have IHML.. I'll look into it more. |
| 06:16.47 | athos | I was thinking of having a window or button, that on say left click does the targetting...but on right click opens the edit box...i guess thats a little advanced. |
| 06:17.14 | athos | i still want to try tho...even if it takes me a month or two |
| 06:19.08 | Guillotine | take a read of http://www.wowwiki.com/Secure_Frames_Overview |
| 06:19.36 | Guillotine | Anybody with a relatively neutral accent want to record phenomes for this TTS? My voice doesn't work very well for it :( |
| 06:19.45 | lagger` | whats the distance GetTop() measures? |
| 06:20.26 | Guillotine | lagger': the WoW environment has its own units (pixels at 1.0 scale I believe) |
| 06:20.41 | Guillotine | I forgot where the origin is, but |
| 06:21.12 | lagger` | is it |
| 06:21.14 | lagger` | from the bottom left? |
| 06:25.32 | MentalPower | lagger`: GetCursorPosition() |
| 06:31.09 | ckknight | foes anyone know a way to do something like Yatlas except without all the pregenerated mined data? |
| 06:31.11 | ckknight | does* |
| 06:31.12 | wereHamster | Guillotine, I don't think wow uses pixels, it has an internal resolution of 1024x768 units on 4:3 displays, or something like that |
| 06:31.40 | Guillotine | wereHamster: could be. I haven't really needed exact measurements in a while |
| 06:31.47 | wereHamster | regardless of the actuall pixel resolution |
| 06:31.55 | MentalPower | ckknight: you mean instance maps with PoIs? |
| 06:32.02 | MentalPower | or loot tables |
| 06:32.06 | ckknight | MentalPower: no, out of instances |
| 06:32.16 | ckknight | in the real world |
| 06:32.23 | ckknight | and the pois aren't what I'm looking for |
| 06:32.30 | ckknight | the textures are |
| 06:33.01 | MentalPower | I've never used Yatlas, so I'm trying to figure out what you want |
| 06:33.36 | ckknight | basically, get the minimap textures for the real world without having to datamine |
| 06:33.36 | Kirov | Yatlas is pretty cool |
| 06:33.40 | ckknight | not sure if it's possible or not |
| 06:33.48 | ckknight | (I'm doing some funky stuff for Cartographer3) |
| 06:33.57 | MentalPower | I don't think thats possible |
| 06:34.14 | Xinhuan | are you thinking of carbonite-like features, ck? |
| 06:34.16 | MentalPower | the minimap's internals are pretty much out of limits |
| 06:34.33 | Kirov | carbonite's map is pretty cool |
| 06:34.45 | ckknight | oh, I totally ripped off Carbonite |
| 06:35.00 | MentalPower | s/out of /off-/ |
| 06:35.03 | ckknight | I got zooming and overlays on mouseover and all that shiny stuff |
| 06:35.09 | kellewic | hello again... are "core" events fired before user-defined events? Or is their order indeterminate? |
| 06:35.21 | Kirov | One think I don't like about carbonite is the inability to right click to auto zoom out, though they have something similar with the middle mouse click |
| 06:35.22 | ckknight | MentalPower: I'm not stealing any code |
| 06:35.25 | MentalPower | user-defined events? |
| 06:35.29 | kellewic | the specific event I have in mind is UPDATE_SHAPESHIFT_FORMS |
| 06:35.35 | MentalPower | ckknight: you don't have to |
| 06:35.45 | MentalPower | and I'm not saying you did either |
| 06:35.50 | ckknight | Kirov: for mine, you just use the mousewheel... |
| 06:36.23 | MentalPower | kellewic: I have no idea what you mean by user-defined events |
| 06:36.48 | Kirov | ckknight - yes, but sometimes you just want to see the zone you're in |
| 06:36.50 | kellewic | like onUpdate... is there a difference between when the game itself catches them and when my addon does? |
| 06:37.00 | MentalPower | ckknight: you can datamine that info yourself, but I don't think you can programatically retrieve that info |
| 06:37.08 | ckknight | MentalPower: okay then |
| 06:37.17 | ckknight | MentalPower: (I've done the datamining before for Cartographer's instances) |
| 06:37.30 | MentalPower | kellewic: on update fires just before the frame is drawn |
| 06:37.32 | Kirov | kellewic - what do you mean? |
| 06:37.57 | ckknight | Kirov: having a zoom to player thing would be handy, *shrug* |
| 06:37.58 | wereHamster | kellewic, refer to OnUpdate and OnEvent as callbacks, not events. |
| 06:38.45 | kellewic | I am messing with the Shapeshift frame and it re-shows and re-positions itself in its ShapeshiftBar_Update()... I want to prevent that, but still have the original code fire... I just want to run my code after it |
| 06:39.17 | Drundia | you can try to unregister all of its events |
| 06:39.21 | kellewic | I tried that |
| 06:39.32 | Drundia | it could be buttons too |
| 06:39.40 | kellewic | that worked for the ExhaustionTick thing |
| 06:39.51 | Drundia | buttons on those bars often can live independent life |
| 06:40.19 | Drundia | you can also try frame:SetUserPlaced(true) |
| 06:40.31 | Drundia | that will prevent some of them from being readjusted |
| 06:40.59 | Kirov | kellewic - ah. OnUpdate / OnEvent will usually fire first on the default UI, but it has nothing to do with it being "the game" vs. "everything else". It's just that the game's UI is usually created first when the game loads, so the lists of frames that need to receive OnUpdate and OnEvent calls usually have the blizzard frames first, then the addon frames after. |
| 06:41.30 | kellewic | Drundia: looking at the Shapeshift_Update() code... it doesn't check for anything like that... it just does it |
| 06:41.31 | Kirov | kellewic - you might also want to try using the "hooksecurefunc" function for something where you're trying to override existing functionality. |
| 06:41.34 | kellewic | Kirov: ok, thanks |
| 06:41.46 | Drundia | kellewic, does it call SetPoint()? |
| 06:42.17 | Drundia | tell me where is it in file and what file |
| 06:42.22 | Drundia | so i can see |
| 06:42.33 | Kirov | kellewic - If you're attempting to prevent it from showing / hiding, know that what ever you do will likely not work in-combat. |
| 06:42.50 | kellewic | Drundia: basically, it checks how many forms you have and dependant on that shows/hides the appropriate textures (Left, Right, Middle)... and does call SetPoint |
| 06:43.07 | Drundia | technically you can prevent it showing/hiding, but you can't force it do that |
| 06:43.28 | Drundia | file and line please |
| 06:43.33 | Drundia | there is no shapeshiftbar.lua |
| 06:43.47 | kellewic | drundia: BonusActionBarFrame.lua -> 148 |
| 06:44.54 | kellewic | kirov: I don't see any reference to the hooksecurefunc you mentioned |
| 06:45.03 | Drundia | so again, was your problem hiding/showing? |
| 06:45.17 | wereHamster | kellewic, http://www.wowwiki.com/API_hooksecurefunc |
| 06:45.36 | kellewic | drundia: I can show/hide and reposition it all fine... but then that function fires and it screws my stuff up... i.e. those 3 textures re-appear |
| 06:45.39 | Drundia | in theory you can try to replace ShapeshiftBarFrame.Show and ShapeshiftBarFrame.Hide with dummy functions "function() end" |
| 06:45.55 | Drundia | that will have some issues however |
| 06:46.23 | kellewic | drundia: yeah... I was hoping to find a way for that function to fire and then my code right after it to avoid potential issues |
| 06:46.26 | Kirov | I guess it depends on what exactly you want to do |
| 06:46.59 | Drundia | did you try ShapeshiftBarFrame:UnregisterEvent("UPDATE_SHAPESHIFT_FORMS") / |
| 06:47.15 | kellewic | I just did UnregisterAllEvents() to see what would happen... it still updated |
| 06:47.30 | kellewic | and I don't see events on the buttons themselves |
| 06:47.39 | Drundia | it can be UIParent_ManageFramePositions(); |
| 06:47.50 | Drundia | that one should be affected by frame:SetUserPlaced(true) |
| 06:48.01 | kellewic | Drundia: k... I will try that |
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| 06:50.05 | Drundia | you can try to hook SetPoint(), Show() and Hide() and then track callers using debugstack() http://www.wowwiki.com/API_debugstack |
| 06:51.09 | Drundia | hooksecurefunc(ShapeshiftBarFrame, "SetPoint", YourStackTracingFunction) |
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| 06:53.39 | kellewic | drundia: tried the setUserPlaced(true) call... received an error and then found this on wowwiki, "Does not work on frames that have been created by API_CreateFrame."... going to try the hook stuff |
| 06:54.00 | kellewic | SetUserPlaced()... sorry... too much Java programming :) |
| 06:54.22 | waj | lol |
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| 06:57.36 | Drundia | strange |
| 06:57.54 | Drundia | i've just successfully SetUserPlaced(true) CreateFrame()'d frame |
| 06:58.09 | Drundia | i think maybe they should be first SetMovable()'d |
| 06:58.19 | Guillotine | If anybody wants to try out the TTS addon: http://up.norganna.org/index.php/lbsLPYi/TextToSpeech.zip |
| 06:58.26 | Guillotine | type /script TTSTest() to play an example phrase |
| 06:58.28 | kellewic | I tried it on MainMenuBar and it told me "Frame MainMenuBar is not movable or resizable" |
| 06:58.31 | Drundia | but then again the frame in question was created during loading process |
| 06:58.52 | Drundia | first you need to call SetMovable(true) or SetResizable(true) |
| 06:58.54 | Guillotine | I've only got the timing down for a couple phenomes, so it doesn't sound all that great yet |
| 06:59.24 | Guillotine | having trouble getting the "ir" to mix in well |
| 07:00.02 | Guillotine | feel free to make your own phenome sets and send them to me :P I made it pretty easy |
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| 07:02.03 | Drundia | from what i see this gives me no errors: /script CreateFrame("Frame","TestFrame"); TestFrame:SetMovable(true); TestFrame:SetUserPlaced(true) |
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| 07:03.55 | kellewic | drundia: with the SetMovable(true) it doesn't give errors |
| 07:06.44 | Guillotine | If somebody can find me a premade set of well-cut phoneme sound files, I'll put you in the credits of the addon :( Making my own is a pain |
| 07:06.58 | Guillotine | wtf |
| 07:07.03 | Guillotine | I was just rickrolled on tv |
| 07:08.18 | kd3 | kharma for HighRoller? |
| 07:08.25 | Guillotine | probably |
| 07:19.08 | MentalPower | Guillotine: is there a linux text-to-speech program? |
| 07:19.19 | Guillotine | I have no idea |
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| 07:21.18 | MentalPower | http://festvox.org/festival/index.html |
| 07:23.55 | cladhaire | I HAF INTARWEBS! |
| 07:24.07 | Cairenn | yay! |
| 07:24.14 | MentalPower | WOOT! |
| 07:25.10 | Guillotine | MentalPower: it appears that works via synthesis rather than phoneme files :( |
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| 07:26.09 | globalduck1313 | heya everyone |
| 07:27.32 | Guillotine | hiya |
| 07:28.07 | globalduck1313 | was wondering if i could get lil advice or help with a project I am working on? |
| 07:28.36 | Guillotine | ~asktoask |
| 07:28.37 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 07:28.45 | Guillotine | :) |
| 07:29.18 | globalduck1313 | k Im kinda new to this....anyway I want to change the textures ina hud but they wont fill with color...they only show up grey |
| 07:30.14 | Guillotine | Hmm, I haven't worked with fillup textures in a while :( sorry |
| 07:31.05 | globalduck1313 | i have succesfully recreated phaytals dhud textures so they now work in rentaires version of dhud2 but i wanted to use them in metahud |
| 07:32.25 | globalduck1313 | ive scoured the lua for metahud but i cant seem to find the appropriate scripts to change |
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| 07:35.02 | Guillotine | well, I think I'll finish this tomorrow. I have enough basic phonemes working to make basic sentances like "Hi. How are you?" and "You lie" and "my dad died". But having trouble with the "g" sound :( |
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| 07:37.15 | Guillotine | oh, and "you moo" (one of my favorites) |
| 07:37.29 | Guillotine | my "h" is like perfect though. Fits great with most of the vowels |
| 07:37.47 | Guillotine | stuff like "hi" actually sounds like natural speech o.O |
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| 07:43.48 | waj | Mr. Brown can moo, can you? |
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| 07:59.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: so, feeling bad that I pinged you so many countless times concerning Omen (...what?), I decided to write a big lengthy Omen2 FAQ kinda thing. http://files.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/l2omen.txt Comments welcome, ping me back if you have any suggestions to add to it before I throw it up on the UI forums. |
| 08:00.35 | Cairenn | ewww, don't throw up on the forums, it's a bitch to clean up |
| 08:00.43 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 08:00.52 | Cairenn | and on that silly note |
| 08:00.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, and don't worry about the spelling, it's probably horrific. I'll run it through a spell checker before I post it |
| 08:01.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn|afk: lol, cya, sleep well |
| 08:01.16 | Cairenn|afk | night night :) |
| 08:01.44 | Guillotine | well, looks like I'm going to have to do all these phonemes manually :'( |
| 08:02.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Guillotine: you probably deserve it |
| 08:02.03 | ScytheBlade1 | With that, sleep! |
| 08:03.03 | Guillotine | goddam karma. Never should have released HighRoller :( Me and MP are going to have bad luck forever |
| 08:05.31 | MentalPower | lol |
| 08:05.58 | MentalPower | they say karma is a very potent thing |
| 08:06.13 | Guillotine | well, maybe if I put this up on the WoWAce SVN somebody else will see it and decide to make some of their own phoneme files |
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| 08:06.26 | MentalPower | maybe |
| 08:06.46 | MentalPower | the license kinda sucks for collaboration tho |
| 08:06.52 | Guillotine | what license? |
| 08:07.07 | MentalPower | yours |
| 08:07.26 | Guillotine | oh, whoops, I left in the License from another program |
| 08:07.33 | MentalPower | :) |
| 08:07.48 | Guillotine | hmm, how does it suck for collaboration? |
| 08:09.08 | MentalPower | no explicit on modification and derivative works |
| 08:09.22 | AlexanderYoshi | Dharma is even more dangerous |
| 08:09.45 | MentalPower | and it has the non-commercial thing |
| 08:10.22 | Guillotine | Probably best if I just don't include a license like most addons :P |
| 08:10.35 | MentalPower | bad Guillotine, bad! |
| 08:10.39 | Guillotine | I know |
| 08:10.42 | Guillotine | but it works |
| 08:10.54 | MentalPower | no, it doesn't |
| 08:11.53 | Guillotine | Sure it does. People don't not-edit it because of the lack of a license (see nearly every Ace addon out there), but if needed, I can still hold copyright if somebody tries to use it for a commercial product |
| 08:14.14 | MentalPower | yeah, but I can't use it for auctioneer |
| 08:14.46 | MentalPower | besides, whats your aversion to commercial use? |
| 08:16.11 | Guillotine | I've had people try to sell a couple of my addons :( |
| 08:16.14 | Guillotine | Just don't like it |
| 08:16.18 | Guillotine | actually, it was only one addon |
| 08:17.08 | Guillotine | I'm not really against commercial use. As long as I'm given fair credit and such. Which is why I just say they have to get permission. |
| 08:17.41 | Drundia | if it lacks license no one can even know if they use it legally or not |
| 08:18.15 | MentalPower | use the MIT license or even GPL with a "please include credit" clause |
| 08:19.15 | Guillotine | I believe the GPL requires that anything it is distributed in is GPL as well though (though I could well be wrong) |
| 08:19.33 | Guillotine | and MIT gives full permissions to sell and such |
| 08:20.40 | Drundia | you can sell GPL'd software |
| 08:20.45 | Drundia | you just have to provide source code |
| 08:21.04 | Drundia | which is pretty much what gpl is about |
| 08:21.23 | nevcairiel | you can only charge for distribution and management of a GPL software though, not for the product itself |
| 08:21.23 | nevcairiel | iirc |
| 08:21.45 | MentalPower | you can charge for the product, but its pointless to do so |
| 08:22.04 | nevcairiel | because i'm free to give it away |
| 08:22.08 | Guillotine | Right. And some of my things are used in for-sell things (e.g. HelpLib), and I'd like that to be able to continue as long as I grant permission (which GPL restricts) |
| 08:22.10 | MentalPower | since after one copy is distributed, that person can go back and distribute it him/herself free of charge |
| 08:22.46 | Guillotine | I'd like something between GPL and MIT :( GPL is too restrictive, MIT is too lax |
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| 08:24.08 | MentalPower | http://www.opensource.org/licenses |
| 08:24.12 | MentalPower | pick one :) |
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| 08:31.31 | lagger` | whats the function that updates the uidropdown table that it looks at |
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| 09:03.27 | AlexanderYoshi | oh god |
| 09:03.30 | AlexanderYoshi | I'm writing an addon |
| 09:03.35 | AlexanderYoshi | beware everybody! |
| 09:05.01 | Drundia | oh noes we are doomed |
| 09:05.34 | Drundia | did you find a way to call format c: from wow addon for all windows users? |
| 09:05.41 | AlexanderYoshi | ye |
| 09:05.42 | AlexanderYoshi | yes |
| 09:05.59 | AlexanderYoshi | it will be the apocalypse of addons |
| 09:11.03 | AlexanderYoshi | Shadowed, are you about? |
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| 09:29.08 | batrick | hmm |
| 09:29.13 | batrick | so quiet |
| 09:29.19 | Guillotine | Yay :D So my text to speech addon is now able to parse (some) basic english |
| 09:29.23 | Guillotine | and convert it to phoneme forma |
| 09:29.25 | Guillotine | format* |
| 09:29.36 | batrick | O.o |
| 09:30.00 | batrick | that sounds pretty cool guillotine |
| 09:30.22 | Guillotine | Some of it doesn't sound too good though :( I still have to fix up some of the sound recordings tomorrow |
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| 09:30.34 | Guillotine | stuff involving gutteral sounds sounds kind of choppy |
| 09:30.46 | Guillotine | I still haven't figured out exactly where to cut those |
| 09:30.55 | Guillotine | soft sounds like 'h' sound really natural though |
| 09:31.02 | cncfanatics | hello everyone ! |
| 09:31.06 | batrick | hi |
| 09:31.40 | cncfanatics | I heard of some project for a WoW LUA editor, can anyone point me in the right direction for that project |
| 09:32.19 | wereHamster | luapad |
| 09:32.20 | batrick | that so you can edit an addon inwow? |
| 09:32.32 | cncfanatics | no no |
| 09:32.41 | wereHamster | no, not addons, but make scripts and run code |
| 09:32.45 | cncfanatics | just a regular editor but that supports all the WoW API |
| 09:33.00 | batrick | i thought clad made one of those |
| 09:33.36 | cladhaire | you don't need anything coded |
| 09:33.42 | cladhaire | just make an api file for your favorite editor |
| 09:34.12 | batrick | I know that David Given (I think) made an editor in pure Lua, would be cool to see it embeddedin WoW |
| 09:34.37 | wereHamster | cncfanatics, luastlinger |
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| 09:39.25 | cladhaire | batrick: hardly necessary |
| 09:39.28 | cladhaire | and its far from pure lua |
| 09:39.35 | cladhaire | it has bindings to GUI toolkits |
| 09:39.40 | cladhaire | which are ages more mature than WoW |
| 09:39.51 | batrick | i only remember what I saw when i skimmed his email |
| 09:39.58 | cncfanatics | WoW's gui ain't too bad tbh |
| 09:40.00 | cladhaire | regardless, in-game lua editors, WowLua is more than most ever need |
| 09:40.19 | cladhaire | cncfanatics: yes, they are. |
| 09:40.21 | cladhaire | Im' not talking about the looks |
| 09:40.23 | cladhaire | Im' talking about api and functionalityu |
| 09:40.25 | cladhaire | and it absolutely cannot compare to what you can do with a standard toolkit |
| 09:40.34 | cncfanatics | true |
| 09:40.39 | Guillotine | haha, my text to speech addon parses "die in a fire" quite well :D The guttural "d" sounds a bit wierd, but the rest is good |
| 09:40.55 | cncfanatics | text to speech addon ? :o how'd u do that ? |
| 09:41.20 | Guillotine | pop/push with phoneme conversion |
| 09:41.29 | batrick | Guillotine: that'd be something to share in lua-l probably, i don't think i've seen that before |
| 09:41.38 | Guillotine | lua-l ? |
| 09:41.41 | cncfanatics | intresting |
| 09:41.43 | batrick | the lua mailing list |
| 09:41.45 | Guillotine | oh |
| 09:41.56 | Guillotine | Its not that interesting |
| 09:41.58 | batrick | assuming it can be separated from wow pretty easily |
| 09:42.02 | Guillotine | I mean, the actual TTS part is only about 50 lines |
| 09:42.20 | Guillotine | well, excluding the pop/push library I made for it |
| 09:42.25 | AlexanderYoshi | Anyone have the WoW UI extracted and on a website? |
| 09:42.33 | AlexanderYoshi | like diffs between old patches |
| 09:42.34 | cncfanatics | ~framexml |
| 09:42.34 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wdnaddons.com/ |
| 09:42.35 | Guillotine | its the normal english->phonemes that takes up most of the room |
| 09:42.35 | cladhaire | AlexanderYoshi: yes, wdn.wowinterface.com |
| 09:42.46 | cncfanatics | wdnaddons.com AlexanderYoshi |
| 09:42.49 | AlexanderYoshi | handy |
| 09:44.44 | batrick | Guillotine: just an idea for you, maybe extend it some by letting people broadcast messages to others using the addon |
| 09:45.02 | batrick | would be very useful in combat imo, especially for those who can't use ent |
| 09:45.05 | batrick | vent* |
| 09:45.48 | Guillotine | batrick: its a library :) |
| 09:45.53 | Guillotine | well, kind of |
| 09:45.54 | Fisker- | i'd be like "your mother" |
| 09:45.59 | batrick | well make another addon that uses your library :) |
| 09:46.01 | Guillotine | its EXTREMELY easy to have another addon say it |
| 09:46.16 | Guillotine | TextToSpeech:QueueSentence("Die in a fire!") |
| 09:46.36 | batrick | it just reminds me of how when I'm in combat i'd never read whispers and my arena partners would yell at me for it lol |
| 09:47.39 | batrick | anyways sleep time |
| 09:47.42 | batrick | gnight all |
| 09:54.08 | cncfanatics | does someone know if its possible to get the unlocalized name of a spell ? |
| 09:54.19 | cncfanatics | or anything that would be unique per spell through all languages |
| 09:56.31 | Guillotine | well, now you can get the spell id |
| 09:56.38 | cncfanatics | how would I do that ? |
| 09:56.45 | Guillotine | depends, where are you trying to get it from? |
| 09:56.48 | Guillotine | combat log or spell book? |
| 09:56.48 | Drundia | you can get id on thott |
| 09:56.56 | cncfanatics | I need to get it ingame |
| 09:56.58 | Drundia | or you can try to get it from combat log |
| 09:57.00 | Guillotine | Drundia: I think he means dynamically via an addon |
| 09:57.08 | cncfanatics | I'm looping through shapeshift forms and I need an unlocalized id per spell |
| 09:57.34 | cncfanatics | how do wowhead/thott get their spellid's ? |
| 09:57.44 | cncfanatics | I can't immediatly find an API func for it |
| 09:58.13 | Guillotine | cncfanatics: parse GetSpellLink(spellName) |
| 09:58.23 | cncfanatics | kay |
| 09:58.32 | cncfanatics | a bit ambiguous, but well |
| 09:58.40 | Guillotine | or, if you're doing it via id, GetSpellLink(GetSpellName(spellID,"bookType")) |
| 09:58.46 | Drundia | oh right GetSpellLink! |
| 09:59.03 | Drundia | i don't know all those new regularly added apis |
| 09:59.27 | cncfanatics | how did wowhead get their spellid's before that 2.4 hit live then ? |
| 09:59.31 | cncfanatics | that func is new |
| 09:59.33 | AlexanderYoshi | I'm shocked nobody has created a spell dictionary |
| 09:59.51 | AlexanderYoshi | (A giant spellbook with tooltips for every spell in the game) |
| 09:59.51 | Drundia | wowhead parses spells.dbc |
| 09:59.52 | Guillotine | cncfanatics: all that stuff is in the .dbc files |
| 10:00.00 | Guillotine | AlexanderYoshi: there is one |
| 10:00.08 | cncfanatics | AlexanderYoshi: wowhead ? :p |
| 10:00.08 | AlexanderYoshi | o rly? |
| 10:00.14 | AlexanderYoshi | I mean in-game addon |
| 10:00.54 | Guillotine | Alex: search for "link" on WoWI |
| 10:01.05 | Guillotine | LinksList_AbilityDB_Links is the ability |
| 10:01.07 | Guillotine | one |
| 10:01.12 | Guillotine | theres one for quests and tradeskills as well |
| 10:01.17 | Drundia | database of player usable spells' names should be in addons like dr.damage |
| 10:01.35 | Guillotine | Drundia: no reason anymore |
| 10:01.42 | Guillotine | better to work off of spell id |
| 10:01.46 | Guillotine | no localization required |
| 10:02.04 | Drundia | yes it's good thing |
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| 10:03.56 | AlexanderYoshi | oh cute |
| 10:04.06 | AlexanderYoshi | not quite as UI nice as I'd hoped |
| 10:04.10 | AlexanderYoshi | but w/e |
| 10:07.48 | KillerDreaming | Lala. |
| 10:07.51 | KillerDreaming | Hellu. |
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| 10:08.23 | KillerDreaming | wb Kirky |
| 10:09.04 | cncfanatics | GetSpellLink("Stealth"):match("|Hspell:(%d+)|", 1); |
| 10:09.09 | cncfanatics | whats wrong with that pattern ? |
| 10:09.12 | cncfanatics | returns nil every time |
| 10:10.15 | cncfanatics | nvm, found it |
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| 10:11.46 | KillerDreaming | wb Kirky. |
| 10:14.27 | AlexanderYoshi | I've come to the conclusion that building a "simple state machine" isn't so simple after all |
| 10:14.36 | Kirov | lol |
| 10:15.41 | cncfanatics | AlexanderYoshi: I'm doing that for flexbar |
| 10:15.44 | cncfanatics | and its pretty much done |
| 10:15.48 | cncfanatics | I can link you to the code if you want |
| 10:15.59 | cncfanatics | it has AddState, RemoveState functions that accept macro conditions |
| 10:16.06 | AlexanderYoshi | Interesting |
| 10:16.07 | cncfanatics | and it can generate statebuttons and statedrivers |
| 10:16.15 | AlexanderYoshi | I'll check it out if you link me to it ;) |
| 10:16.33 | cncfanatics | the code is a bit scattered around a few files |
| 10:16.37 | cncfanatics | let me copy/paste everything |
| 10:16.39 | cncfanatics | in a single file |
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| 10:17.13 | KillerDreaming | I wish I knew the slightest bit about what y'all were talking about. :D |
| 10:17.17 | KillerDreaming | Hewwo Dabujo. |
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| 10:18.34 | Guillotine | wtf is with lines 3562-3569 of Blizzard_CombatLog.lua o.O All it does is cause bugs. It could just as easily be "if IsModifiedClick("CHATLINK") then ChatEdit_InsertLink(link) return end" instead of a 8 line thing that removes all gems and enchants from links |
| 10:19.16 | Guillotine | actually, 3563-3569 |
| 10:19.36 | SpiderBK | in SPELL_AURA_APPLIED which arg is the spellname? |
| 10:19.37 | cncfanatics | http://www.pastey.net/85201 AlexanderYoshi |
| 10:19.53 | cncfanatics | there are some references to non existing tables there, thats because I didn't paste them along with it |
| 10:20.23 | cncfanatics | also, I probably need to explain a few things about it |
| 10:20.46 | cncfanatics | line 152 refers to self.DB.Remaps, that ofc won't exist for you, its a table containing what states should actualy remap |
| 10:20.53 | cncfanatics | eg { shapeshift = true, target = true} |
| 10:20.58 | cncfanatics | would be a valid example |
| 10:21.00 | AlexanderYoshi | I still can't believe I wrote 4k lines of code in under a month |
| 10:21.21 | cncfanatics | AlexanderYoshi: on what did you write so much lines ? :o |
| 10:21.58 | AlexanderYoshi | ... nothing |
| 10:22.05 | cncfanatics | eh ? |
| 10:22.18 | AlexanderYoshi | it was a silly, pointless comment |
| 10:22.32 | cncfanatics | k k |
| 10:22.36 | Guillotine | He works for the CIA. If he told you, he'd have to kill you |
| 10:22.39 | AlexanderYoshi | Guillotine: you're probably right |
| 10:22.39 | cncfanatics | can you tell me what you need a state engine for though ? |
| 10:22.44 | AlexanderYoshi | Sure |
| 10:23.09 | AlexanderYoshi | I'm making an addon that says "HealerJoe saved the day" when a tank is under 20% health and the heal puts them over the next incoming swing |
| 10:23.30 | Guillotine | haha |
| 10:23.32 | Guillotine | thats awesome |
| 10:23.46 | [Liquidor] | Q: what do yuo call somebody who palays the Microsoft Xbob? |
| 10:23.46 | [Liquidor] | A: INCARCERATED!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 10:23.59 | cncfanatics | Q: what do you call [Liquidor] ? |
| 10:24.01 | cncfanatics | A: FAIL |
| 10:24.04 | AlexanderYoshi | wtf, [Liquidor], that makes no sese |
| 10:24.08 | [Liquidor] | hehe |
| 10:24.13 | [Liquidor] | http://www.somethingawful.com/hosted/jeffk/hotgamez2005/ |
| 10:25.39 | Guillotine | Alright, I'm going to head to bed |
| 10:26.15 | Guillotine | http://up.norganna.org/index.php/lwxQW6n/TextToSpeech.zip <-- if anybody wants to play with the TTS thing. Just type /tts "text" to speak something (its missing a large number of phonemes atm, but it works for somethings) |
| 10:26.33 | AlexanderYoshi | night, Guillotine |
| 10:26.37 | Guillotine | night :) |
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| 10:28.33 | KillerDreaming | WELL I'M NOT PARALYZED, BUT MY PENIS IS HUGE. I WANNA MAKE YOU MOVE, BECAUSE YOU'RE SOMETHING THAT RHYMES WITH STANDING STILL D= |
| 10:28.38 | KillerDreaming | Bored. |
| 10:28.45 | AlexanderYoshi | Ok! |
| 10:28.50 | KillerDreaming | Hi. :3 |
| 10:28.57 | AlexanderYoshi | Hi to you too. |
| 10:29.01 | KillerDreaming | How you doing? |
| 10:29.07 | AlexanderYoshi | I hear talking about penises gets you banned. |
| 10:29.15 | KillerDreaming | Nuh uhs. |
| 10:29.16 | AlexanderYoshi | I'm OK |
| 10:29.19 | AlexanderYoshi | yeah huh |
| 10:29.29 | KillerDreaming | Now if I didn't censoriz3 it |
| 10:29.30 | KillerDreaming | maybe? D= |
| 10:30.04 | AlexanderYoshi | dunno |
| 10:30.09 | AlexanderYoshi | but i'm going to kick you anyways |
| 10:30.13 | *** kick/#WoWUIDev [KillerDreaming!n=Alexande@ip68-109-71-246.oc.oc.cox.net] by AlexanderYoshi (Kick) |
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| 10:30.35 | AlexanderYoshi | wb |
| 10:30.41 | KillerDreaming | Man. They use pen0r in school. |
| 10:30.44 | KillerDreaming | Why kick for it? :/ |
| 10:30.49 | AlexanderYoshi | Bored. |
| 10:30.51 | Adys | AlexanderYoshi: Hi from WW :D |
| 10:30.56 | AlexanderYoshi | Hi Adys |
| 10:30.58 | AlexanderYoshi | Who is WW? |
| 10:31.00 | KillerDreaming | WW? |
| 10:31.05 | Adys | wowwiki sorry hehe |
| 10:31.10 | waj | lol |
| 10:31.10 | KillerDreaming | Yay! WoWWiki! |
| 10:31.16 | AlexanderYoshi | Yay! WoWWiki! |
| 10:31.19 | KillerDreaming | Yay! |
| 10:31.21 | AlexanderYoshi | Yay! |
| 10:31.25 | KillerDreaming | :D |
| 10:31.26 | waj | ~cheer |
| 10:31.26 | purl | shift to the left, unshift to the right, push down, pop up, byte byte byte. |
| 10:31.27 | AlexanderYoshi | :-D |
| 10:31.44 | AlexanderYoshi | That cheer was cute |
| 10:31.47 | AlexanderYoshi | ~cheer |
| 10:31.48 | purl | shift to the left, unshift to the right, push down, pop up, byte byte byte. |
| 10:32.06 | Adys | ~cyberdance |
| 10:32.13 | Adys | bha wrong bot |
| 10:32.15 | waj | lol |
| 10:32.26 | AlexanderYoshi | Well, Adys, you and the rest of the people there are doing a great job. |
| 10:32.30 | AlexanderYoshi | Keep it up! |
| 10:32.34 | Adys | :) |
| 10:32.35 | KillerDreaming | Yes. WoWWIki pwns ballz. |
| 10:32.54 | KillerDreaming | Illidan is always the featured article. <3 |
| 10:32.55 | Adys | Ive only been working on OpenWDB recently tho |
| 10:32.55 | KillerDreaming | lol |
| 10:32.58 | AlexanderYoshi | I'll pwn your ballz if you don't stop talking about genitals in non sexual contexts! |
| 10:33.08 | KillerDreaming | Ballz is an energy drink. |
| 10:33.18 | KillerDreaming | or Dragon Ball Z |
| 10:33.21 | AlexanderYoshi | Oh, so sorry, I was confusing ballz with Bawlz |
| 10:33.36 | KillerDreaming | No. Ballz. |
| 10:33.40 | KillerDreaming | It's a nasty energy drink here. |
| 10:33.43 | Kirov | Bawlz |
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| 10:33.54 | KillerDreaming | Bawlz is one too, yes. |
| 10:34.01 | KillerDreaming | But there's one called ballz here |
| 10:34.02 | KillerDreaming | :/ |
| 10:34.04 | KillerDreaming | It's nasty. |
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| 10:34.43 | Kirov | Someone made a rip off of Bawlz energy drink ... why |
| 10:34.55 | KillerDreaming | Yeah. |
| 10:35.00 | KillerDreaming | It doesn't even taste like bawlz. |
| 10:35.06 | KillerDreaming | Do you know Rockstar Guava? |
| 10:35.19 | Kirov | yeah |
| 10:35.19 | KillerDreaming | It tastes like that except very flat. |
| 10:35.23 | Kirov | heh |
| 10:35.34 | Kirov | My favorite one is Woop Ass. |
| 10:35.39 | KillerDreaming | never heard |
| 10:35.40 | Kirov | No idea what it taste like, don't want to |
| 10:35.48 | Kirov | But it's a can of woop ass |
| 10:35.50 | KillerDreaming | lol |
| 10:35.58 | KillerDreaming | Never had it yet. |
| 10:36.00 | Kirov | Rockstar is nasty |
| 10:36.05 | KillerDreaming | Yeah. |
| 10:36.16 | KillerDreaming | I have no favorite energy drink ATM. :( |
| 10:36.25 | KillerDreaming | all the mainstream stuff (Red Bull, lala) sucks. |
| 10:36.44 | Kirov | My favorite "energy drink" is called "taking a nap" |
| 10:36.53 | Kirov | Most effective |
| 10:37.08 | Kirov | I tried Rockstar once ... made me more tired. |
| 10:37.11 | KillerDreaming | KMX was the best energy drink ever.. |
| 10:37.16 | KillerDreaming | then they stopped selling it I think. |
| 10:37.32 | SpiderBK | can someone help me with a combat log problem? |
| 10:38.46 | Kirov | SpiderBK - hmm? |
| 10:38.50 | lagger` | how do i get this to work |
| 10:38.59 | lagger` | local t = '{"Nature's Swiftness"}'; local t2 = loadstring('return '..t); |
| 10:39.17 | lagger` | is there some way to do a ' without it closing? |
| 10:39.34 | Arrowmaster | you can use [[ ]] |
| 10:39.49 | SpiderBK | i have this addon where i used to parse the combat log for spell gains and now i have absolutely no idea how to get the spell name with the new combat log system... |
| 10:40.23 | Arrowmaster | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_COMBAT_LOG_EVENT |
| 10:41.00 | SpiderBK | yes that link is nice and all but how does it work? i dont see how i get the spellname out there |
| 10:41.05 | AlexanderYoshi | register for COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED |
| 10:41.14 | AlexanderYoshi | and then when the event fires |
| 10:41.31 | Arrowmaster | the eventtype will be SPELL_AURA_* |
| 10:41.31 | AlexanderYoshi | arg10 will be the spell name |
| 10:41.40 | AlexanderYoshi | (combat log event arg 10) |
| 10:41.51 | Arrowmaster | so 9-11 match up with SPELL_* |
| 10:42.01 | Arrowmaster | and 12+ are from the suffix table |
| 10:44.07 | SpiderBK | how do i register for unfiltered? o_O |
| 10:44.51 | SpiderBK | use COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED insted of COMBAT_LOG_EVENT? |
| 10:44.55 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 10:45.01 | SpiderBK | ok^^ |
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| 10:47.10 | AlexanderYoshi | yes |
| 10:47.13 | wereHamster | interesting. powerType is -2: health, 0: mana, 1: rage etc. but no -1. And why use negative value for health anyway? |
| 10:47.29 | AlexanderYoshi | no idea |
| 10:47.39 | AlexanderYoshi | its probably some programmer hack type thing |
| 10:48.09 | Drundia | i think they messed something again. i don't remember windfury refresh every 5 sec to lag like that before...... |
| 10:48.35 | AlexanderYoshi | Can anyone check this and tell me if its a valid return? |
| 10:48.35 | AlexanderYoshi | http://www.pastey.net/85202 |
| 10:48.47 | wereHamster | btw, did you guys fix the gold limit (IIRC it was 65536 copper) |
| 10:48.54 | AlexanderYoshi | no idea |
| 10:49.11 | AlexanderYoshi | that's only 6g tho |
| 10:49.18 | AlexanderYoshi | so its probably higher now |
| 10:49.50 | Drundia | alex, i think it's valid |
| 10:50.16 | Drundia | of course if what you unpack() is a table :) |
| 10:50.22 | AlexanderYoshi | ah |
| 10:50.24 | AlexanderYoshi | I should validate that |
| 10:50.25 | AlexanderYoshi | thanks |
| 10:51.16 | Arrowmaster | gold limit is 2^31 or 2^31-1, more than enough that very few people should ever hit it |
| 10:51.32 | Drundia | 216kg |
| 10:51.37 | Drundia | or 214 |
| 10:51.54 | Drundia | so ues 2^31-1 |
| 10:51.55 | Arrowmaster | its a signed 32 bit int |
| 10:52.03 | Drundia | s/ues/yes/ |
| 10:52.30 | Drundia | well, some people are already around 20k and more |
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| 10:54.30 | AlexanderYoshi | wow, why does Quartz take 2 megs of UI memory |
| 10:54.31 | cncfanatics | some people have over 120k gold :p |
| 10:54.50 | Arrowmaster | the libraries |
| 10:55.06 | AlexanderYoshi | which ones? |
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| 10:55.52 | Arrowmaster | afaik theres a few unfixable bugs in the ace2 libraries that can cause memory leaks |
| 10:55.55 | Kirov | A couple of guilds hit the limit already |
| 10:56.44 | Arrowmaster | well not really memory leaks but the gc doesnt clean it up fast enough on its own |
| 10:56.56 | AlexanderYoshi | why? |
| 10:57.07 | Arrowmaster | table creation i think |
| 10:57.11 | AlexanderYoshi | can't they force a GC call? |
| 10:57.25 | Drundia | some people say force a GC call may mess up cycle |
| 10:57.39 | Arrowmaster | yeah but its not really desirable to force a gc except on addon loading |
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| 10:57.57 | Arrowmaster | might make somebody randomly lockup for a sec |
| 10:58.35 | Arrowmaster | but ever since we got the incremental gc memeory usage isnt really an issue |
| 10:58.43 | Arrowmaster | before it was a major issue |
| 10:59.44 | Drundia | but i don't know, why not? before they optimized it i had periodic calls for partial gc to optimzie it |
| 11:00.21 | Arrowmaster | i run with my addons disembeded and i dont think i even see quartz on the top 30 addons list for memory usage, and the lowest is around 300k |
| 11:00.32 | Arrowmaster | ace2 is usually around the top |
| 11:00.43 | nevcairiel | my quartz is on 550kb now |
| 11:00.44 | nevcairiel | disembed |
| 11:00.46 | nevcairiel | and all |
| 11:00.54 | Arrowmaster | hmm |
| 11:01.12 | Arrowmaster | maybe ive got some stuff diabled |
| 11:01.17 | Arrowmaster | although i didnt think i did |
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| 11:14.42 | cncfanatics | can anyone help me to find out what's wrong in http://www.pastey.net/85204 ? |
| 11:14.59 | cncfanatics | one part of it doesn't work |
| 11:15.15 | cncfanatics | the part from line 14 -> 20 |
| 11:15.38 | cncfanatics | it seems the gsub ain't replacing anything and I'm wondering why |
| 11:15.52 | AlexanderYoshi | hmm |
| 11:16.04 | nevcairiel | you sure the iterator works right? |
| 11:16.18 | AlexanderYoshi | is there a slick way to do like |
| 11:16.24 | cncfanatics | it does |
| 11:16.28 | cncfanatics | I found the error I think |
| 11:16.33 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:16.36 | AlexanderYoshi | return t.value or function() return 3; end |
| 11:16.37 | cncfanatics | returns test-test2:test3 |
| 11:16.47 | cncfanatics | instead of test-test2:test4 as u'd expect |
| 11:16.51 | cncfanatics | anything I have to escape ? |
| 11:17.22 | cncfanatics | I'm not really very familiar with gsub |
| 11:17.25 | wereHamster | Arrowmaster, so they had to bump up the gold limit, because it used to be a 16bit integer :) |
| 11:17.48 | cncfanatics | why not use an unsigned integer for gold instead of signed ? |
| 11:17.59 | Arrowmaster | easyer to do math with signed? |
| 11:18.03 | Arrowmaster | always add |
| 11:18.24 | Arrowmaster | it couldnt have been a 16bit number |
| 11:18.30 | Arrowmaster | thats only 6 gold |
| 11:19.35 | wereHamster | ay, you are right |
| 11:20.15 | cncfanatics | bah, why do - signs in gsub without context in a pattern have to be escaped ? :s |
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| 11:23.29 | Olison | Cairenn|afk: mew mew |
| 11:24.19 | wereHamster | does anyone know whether irssi can do a search in the backlog? |
| 11:24.51 | SpiderBK | how do i get the auraType of the SPELL_AURA_APPLIED? |
| 11:26.05 | AlexanderYoshi | get teh aura type argument |
| 11:26.20 | AlexanderYoshi | arg12 I think |
| 11:26.46 | SpiderBK | how do you know which arg to use? is there a list somewhere? |
| 11:28.23 | AlexanderYoshi | wow wiki look up combat log events |
| 11:28.37 | AlexanderYoshi | there's also an excellent post on the EU UI forum |
| 11:28.45 | AlexanderYoshi | too much bold |
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| 11:37.51 | cncfanatics | AlexanderYoshi: did you get any use of the state engine I pastied you ? :p |
| 11:40.27 | kellewic | does anyone know why, when I hide the XP bar and reload the UI, it becomes visible again? Damn UI is driving me crazy... |
| 11:41.19 | AlexanderYoshi | My intent is a bit different than yours |
| 11:41.25 | AlexanderYoshi | but I did read through it |
| 11:41.26 | cncfanatics | AlexanderYoshi: what do you want to do ? |
| 11:41.36 | AlexanderYoshi | Make it human readable :) |
| 11:41.50 | cncfanatics | such a code can't be human readable |
| 11:42.15 | Drundia | and manually compilable |
| 11:42.16 | AlexanderYoshi | perhaps not, but I'll trade inefficiency for readability |
| 11:42.28 | AlexanderYoshi | :-) |
| 11:42.28 | cncfanatics | you mean trade efficiency |
| 11:42.32 | cncfanatics | as my code ain't inefficient :p |
| 11:42.43 | Drundia | no need to trade efficiency, put zillion of comments :) |
| 11:42.48 | AlexanderYoshi | I'll accept inefficiency for readability |
| 11:42.52 | AlexanderYoshi | is what I meant to say |
| 11:42.59 | AlexanderYoshi | <--- fails at optimization |
| 11:43.10 | cncfanatics | the code I pastied is quite optimized |
| 11:43.19 | cncfanatics | I supose you could analyze it and comment it all :p |
| 11:44.02 | cncfanatics | but well, nested loops are a hell to analyze :s |
| 11:44.18 | AlexanderYoshi | hehe |
| 11:44.30 | AlexanderYoshi | Yes, i'm sure it was very efficient |
| 11:44.40 | AlexanderYoshi | it was just so much so that I couldn't understand what was going on easily |
| 11:45.13 | cncfanatics | there's no way to generate statedrivers easely though |
| 11:45.46 | nevcairiel | the macro syntax state driver is so easy to use |
| 11:45.51 | nevcairiel | no idea what you want :P |
| 11:45.59 | AlexanderYoshi | Does your state driver drive a car or a truck? |
| 11:46.15 | cncfanatics | autogenerate it from a simple table that lists what states should be active |
| 11:46.22 | cncfanatics | its trickyer then you'd think |
| 11:47.35 | cncfanatics | AlexanderYoshi: he drives 10 trucks |
| 11:47.56 | AlexanderYoshi | Ah, see |
| 11:48.08 | AlexanderYoshi | I can't drive trucks, only cars. |
| 11:48.20 | Drundia | speaking of optimization i had some crazy idea that if function relies on a lot of settings that don't change often it's good idea to store code strings and recompile it when settings change. saves cpu at a cost of memory. |
| 11:48.23 | nevcairiel | my statedriver drives a small sportscar, and i like it that way :p |
| 11:48.48 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel: how do you generate it ? |
| 11:48.48 | AlexanderYoshi | vroom vroom! |
| 11:48.53 | cncfanatics | the code to generate mine is quite huge |
| 11:49.50 | nevcairiel | i just have a table where i tinsert the differentn fields i want |
| 11:49.57 | AlexanderYoshi | arg |
| 11:49.58 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 11:50.00 | nevcairiel | like [modifier:ctrl]page |
| 11:50.01 | cncfanatics | well, I have two tables |
| 11:50.08 | nevcairiel | then tconcat that afterwards |
| 11:50.17 | AlexanderYoshi | how do I retrieve an arbitrary number of return values from a function and store them in a table? |
| 11:50.26 | AlexanderYoshi | t = { MyFunc() } ? |
| 11:50.26 | cncfanatics | one which lists what states we have and what macro conditions they have |
| 11:50.31 | nevcairiel | AlexanderYoshi: yea |
| 11:50.34 | AlexanderYoshi | k |
| 11:50.38 | cncfanatics | then I have another table for each button which lists which states is active for them |
| 11:50.56 | cncfanatics | I generate my statedriver & statebutton from that |
| 11:52.13 | cncfanatics | when I look back at the code I wrote to do that I barely understand it myself -.- |
| 11:52.34 | nevcairiel | my code is so simple now, just needs some more options to disable different states |
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| 11:55.48 | nevcairiel | i could even throw out all the stance scanning code |
| 11:55.56 | nevcairiel | [bonusbar:x] to the rescue! |
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| 11:58.38 | Drundia | !lua #{1, nil, 2} |
| 11:58.38 | batbot | Drundia: > 3 |
| 11:58.48 | Drundia | shouldn't it be 1 based on definition in manual? |
| 12:00.12 | Polarina | Drundia: No. |
| 12:00.24 | Polarina | Drundia: It's based on indexes, you entered values. |
| 12:00.29 | Drundia | isn't it lowest i such that t[i] is not nil and t[i+1] is nil |
| 12:00.53 | Drundia | that's definition from reference manual |
| 12:00.54 | AlexanderYoshi | wahahaha |
| 12:01.03 | AlexanderYoshi | I have a quadruple nested loop in this function |
| 12:01.08 | Polarina | Drundia: {1, nil, 2} is the same as { [1] = 1, [2] = nil, [3] = 2 } |
| 12:01.13 | Drundia | no |
| 12:01.27 | Drundia | !lua #{[1]=1, [2]=nil, [3]=2} |
| 12:01.27 | batbot | Drundia: > 1 |
| 12:01.47 | Polarina | o.O |
| 12:02.03 | Drundia | former is numerically-indexed array, second is hash-tabled |
| 12:02.10 | Drundia | s/second/latter/ |
| 12:03.24 | Drundia | !lua local t={1,2,3}; t[2]=nil; print(#t) |
| 12:03.24 | batbot | Drundia: 3 |
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| 12:03.39 | Drundia | !lua local t={1,2,3}; t[2]=nil; t[4]=4; print(#t) |
| 12:03.39 | batbot | Drundia: 4 |
| 12:04.03 | Polarina | Drundia: Great, you discovered a bug... |
| 12:04.05 | Polarina | Happy? |
| 12:04.09 | Kirov | !lua local t={1,nil,3} print(#t |
| 12:04.09 | batbot | Kirov: @ [string "local t={1,nil,3} print(#t"]:1: ')' expected near '<eof>' |
| 12:04.19 | Kirov | damn it |
| 12:04.30 | Kirov | !lua local t={1,nil,3} print(#t) |
| 12:04.30 | batbot | Kirov: 3 |
| 12:04.46 | AlexanderYoshi | is there a clean way to do: |
| 12:04.49 | Drundia | so definition is wrong, it takes the internal array size |
| 12:05.09 | Polarina | Drundia: Which is not intended to what I can see it as. |
| 12:05.16 | Drundia | which is normally optimized in such way that at least half of spots between 1 and n is used |
| 12:05.24 | AlexanderYoshi | function f() return true, 1, 2, 3; end |
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| 12:05.35 | AlexanderYoshi | local a, {rest} = f(); |
| 12:06.06 | AlexanderYoshi | I want a table with {1,2,3} and a local variable with true in it |
| 12:06.19 | Drundia | hmmm |
| 12:06.26 | AlexanderYoshi | and 1,2,3 could be any arbitrary array length |
| 12:06.40 | Kirov | function f() return true, {1,2,3}; end |
| 12:06.45 | Drundia | don't think you can easily make it |
| 12:06.54 | AlexanderYoshi | yeah i dont like that option |
| 12:06.54 | Drundia | or what Kirov says |
| 12:06.57 | Drundia | you can return table |
| 12:07.13 | AlexanderYoshi | In this case I can't control what is returned to me |
| 12:07.20 | AlexanderYoshi | only how I handle the retvals |
| 12:07.29 | AlexanderYoshi | I'm trying: |
| 12:07.30 | AlexanderYoshi | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:07.30 | AlexanderYoshi | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:07.30 | AlexanderYoshi | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:07.30 | AlexanderYoshi | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:07.37 | AlexanderYoshi | but it seems messy |
| 12:08.15 | Kirov | and possibly a performance hit |
| 12:08.20 | AlexanderYoshi | oh yes |
| 12:08.23 | Kirov | tremove is generally bad |
| 12:08.34 | AlexanderYoshi | and in a quadruple nested array, performance hits are bad |
| 12:13.39 | Kirov | !lua local f1, f2 = function() return true, 1, 2, 3 end, function(...) return ... end local f3 = function(a,...) return a, {f2(...)} end local a, b = f3(f1()) print(#b) |
| 12:13.39 | batbot | Kirov: 3 |
| 12:13.42 | AlexanderYoshi | hey! |
| 12:13.44 | Kirov | tada |
| 12:13.46 | AlexanderYoshi | let's have a GUID contest |
| 12:13.53 | AlexanderYoshi | login to your character |
| 12:13.58 | AlexanderYoshi | and lets see who has the lowest GUID |
| 12:14.10 | AlexanderYoshi | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:14.34 | cncfanatics | doesn't do shit for me |
| 12:15.05 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:15.14 | Drundia | someone mixed quotes |
| 12:15.16 | AlexanderYoshi | mine works for me |
| 12:15.27 | cncfanatics | you mixed quotes idd |
| 12:15.28 | cncfanatics | you failure |
| 12:15.32 | AlexanderYoshi | lawl |
| 12:15.34 | Fisker- | 11DF10 |
| 12:15.35 | *** join/#wowuidev Polleke (i=Polleke@unaffiliated/polleke) |
| 12:15.35 | Fisker- | is mine |
| 12:15.44 | Drundia | 238a2e :( |
| 12:15.56 | AlexanderYoshi | 0x00000000000298892 |
| 12:15.57 | Fisker- | should check on my rogue |
| 12:15.58 | Drundia | ~fail AlexanderYoshi |
| 12:15.58 | purl | AlexanderYoshi: FAIL! |
| 12:16.23 | Kirov | 0x00000000000000000-1 |
| 12:16.23 | AlexanderYoshi | yikes! how old is your character, Fisker? |
| 12:16.26 | Kirov | I win! |
| 12:16.33 | Fisker- | that one is pretty old |
| 12:16.33 | cncfanatics | 0x0000000000000C4C6EC |
| 12:16.35 | Fisker- | i got one older |
| 12:16.38 | Fisker- | made on the release date |
| 12:16.42 | nevcairiel | my char was created on release day. wonder what my guid is |
| 12:16.47 | cncfanatics | I shld check my mage as its a release char |
| 12:16.48 | Fisker- | my paladin is 7AEB07 |
| 12:16.57 | AlexanderYoshi | huh, I should check my first char |
| 12:17.21 | nevcairiel | 1EBF |
| 12:17.23 | nevcairiel | i win! |
| 12:17.24 | Drundia | i'm thinking. is it like guid=f(CharCreationTime())? |
| 12:17.43 | cncfanatics | probably not only that |
| 12:17.46 | nevcairiel | 1EBF is really low *shrug |
| 12:17.53 | cncfanatics | as two chars can theoricly be created at the same time |
| 12:17.57 | Fisker- | just gonna fail another attempt on archimonde, brb |
| 12:18.01 | cncfanatics | prolly just ur char number |
| 12:18.03 | Drundia | server? datacenter? |
| 12:18.12 | Fisker- | a character can never be created at the same time :P |
| 12:19.22 | Kirov | !lua local f1 = function() return "true", 1, 2, 3 end local f2 = function(a, ...) return a, {...} end local a, b = f2(f1()) print( a ) print( #b ) |
| 12:19.22 | batbot | Kirov: true3 |
| 12:19.29 | nevcairiel | we should require the players GUID for new trials |
| 12:19.33 | AlexanderYoshi | yikes nev |
| 12:19.35 | Kirov | there we go, thought that was overly complex |
| 12:19.38 | AlexanderYoshi | what character was that? |
| 12:19.57 | nevcairiel | AlexanderYoshi: with that GUID? my druid, Nevcairiel on EU-Antonidas |
| 12:20.31 | nevcairiel | created on release day |
| 12:20.32 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 12:20.45 | AlexanderYoshi | what is that number in non hex |
| 12:20.54 | AlexanderYoshi | Irb too sleep to do math |
| 12:21.04 | nevcairiel | lua> tonumber("1EBF", 16) |
| 12:21.09 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 12:21.14 | nevcairiel | --> tonumber("1EBF", 16) |
| 12:21.14 | batbot | nevcairiel: > 7871 |
| 12:21.17 | Fisker- | >:O |
| 12:21.18 | AlexanderYoshi | grats! |
| 12:21.23 | Kirov | nice... |
| 12:21.26 | cncfanatics | I wonder who has 1 :p |
| 12:21.32 | Fisker- | lua> tonumber("7AEB07", 16) |
| 12:21.41 | Fisker- | --> tonumber("7AEB07", 16) |
| 12:21.41 | batbot | Fisker-: > 8055559 |
| 12:21.44 | Fisker- | lol |
| 12:21.54 | cncfanatics | --> tonumber("C4C6EC", 16); |
| 12:21.54 | batbot | cncfanatics: > 12895980 |
| 12:21.57 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 12:22.05 | cncfanatics | that char got created a few months ago :) |
| 12:22.07 | Fisker- | 8 millionth character :D |
| 12:22.13 | cncfanatics | lets see my mage, but he got migrated, so prolly pretty high too |
| 12:22.14 | AlexanderYoshi | haha |
| 12:22.15 | nevcairiel | my server was pretty empty during release |
| 12:22.25 | Kirov | AlexanderYoshi - did you notice my nice little function to parse the first value out and the rest in to a table? |
| 12:22.39 | nevcairiel | been filling up lately though because someone at blizzard decided to mark it "recommended" again <.< |
| 12:22.51 | nevcairiel | wts queues |
| 12:22.53 | AlexanderYoshi | -> tonumber("0x392659") |
| 12:22.59 | AlexanderYoshi | nope |
| 12:23.22 | cncfanatics | tonumber("438A38", 16) |
| 12:23.23 | AlexanderYoshi | --> tonumber("0x392659") |
| 12:23.23 | batbot | AlexanderYoshi: > 3745369 |
| 12:23.29 | cncfanatics | --> tonumber("438A38", 16) |
| 12:23.29 | batbot | cncfanatics: > 4426296 |
| 12:23.46 | AlexanderYoshi | hmm |
| 12:23.53 | AlexanderYoshi | I made this char on release day as well |
| 12:23.54 | Kirov | AlexanderYoshi - function parseOutFirst(a,...) return a, {...} end |
| 12:23.58 | AlexanderYoshi | but I moved it to another server |
| 12:24.05 | AlexanderYoshi | I wonder if that changed the GUID |
| 12:24.33 | Fisker- | --> tonumber("228AC", 16) |
| 12:24.33 | batbot | Fisker-: > 141484 |
| 12:24.33 | Kirov | AlexanderYoshi - GUIDs are for "life" |
| 12:24.35 | AlexanderYoshi | This was well before the "real" character copy stuff worked |
| 12:24.42 | Fisker- | wut :o |
| 12:24.54 | Fisker- | my rogue created on release date is number 141484 |
| 12:25.08 | AlexanderYoshi | that's total characters created |
| 12:25.23 | AlexanderYoshi | its not unbeleivable that 140000 characters were made that day |
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| 12:25.43 | Fisker- | still |
| 12:25.48 | Fisker- | we were like the first in the game |
| 12:25.53 | Fisker- | although our realm did have 10k queues |
| 12:26.04 | Polarina | Kirov: So, if you see a GUID, you will see that GUID again if and only if it's the same mob spawn or the exact same character? |
| 12:26.07 | Drundia | i believe it some complicated hash function involving time, race, class, name, server and maybe looks and other random crap |
| 12:26.38 | cncfanatics | doubt its that much |
| 12:26.48 | cncfanatics | why would they bother when they can use the number of the character ? |
| 12:27.05 | Drundia | they look too random |
| 12:27.18 | AlexanderYoshi | --> tonumber ( 298892 ) |
| 12:27.18 | batbot | AlexanderYoshi: > 298892 |
| 12:27.23 | Drundia | and someone tested something |
| 12:27.31 | Drundia | and on other server he got lower guid |
| 12:27.31 | AlexanderYoshi | --> tonumber ( 0x298892 ) |
| 12:27.32 | batbot | AlexanderYoshi: > 2721938 |
| 12:27.36 | Drundia | on new char |
| 12:27.47 | Polarina | Drundia: You can check out. Create a character, log in and log out as soon as possible, create another and log-in. Compare the GUID. |
| 12:28.19 | Drundia | for the same server i think it went up |
| 12:28.34 | nevcairiel | we tried that on the PTR |
| 12:28.41 | nevcairiel | the GUID was nearly the same |
| 12:28.42 | Drundia | but those huge numbers on one day |
| 12:28.43 | nevcairiel | a tad bit bigger |
| 12:28.44 | Polarina | nevcairiel: :) |
| 12:28.45 | Drundia | on one server |
| 12:28.56 | Drundia | i think they won't tell us how they generate guids |
| 12:29.08 | *** join/#wowuidev Cide (n=Cide@hus110a.bobbnet.com) |
| 12:29.08 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+v Cide] by ChanServ |
| 12:29.17 | Polarina | Drundia: It increases so fast because of the gold-sellers. Problem solved. Can we move on? :) |
| 12:29.55 | cncfanatics | Drundia: you could probably find out how with enough test cases |
| 12:30.50 | AlexanderYoshi | hey! |
| 12:30.54 | AlexanderYoshi | my guid is symmetrical |
| 12:30.56 | AlexanderYoshi | 298892 |
| 12:30.58 | AlexanderYoshi | lol |
| 12:31.00 | AlexanderYoshi | sweet |
| 12:31.02 | Fisker- | anyone here know grid? |
| 12:31.08 | Polarina | We need a volunteer. Create a character, log-in and level it to level 10 and record it's GUID and write it down. Then initiate a paid character transfer to another realm and record the GUID after the transfer. |
| 12:31.33 | AlexanderYoshi | why not just ask someone on the forums to do that |
| 12:31.37 | AlexanderYoshi | who wants to transfer anyways |
| 12:31.38 | cncfanatics | Polarina: you perhaps ? |
| 12:31.52 | Polarina | cncfanatics: ;) |
| 12:32.46 | *** join/#wowuidev bindi (n=indigo@d54C68DC5.access.telenet.be) |
| 12:33.29 | *** part/#wowuidev bindi (n=indigo@d54C68DC5.access.telenet.be) |
| 12:35.04 | Polarina | --> 0x71CD39 -- My GUID. |
| 12:35.05 | batbot | Polarina: > 7458105 |
| 12:35.06 | wereHamster | Polarina, do you need to be level 10 to do a char transfer? |
| 12:35.13 | Polarina | wereHamster: Yes. |
| 12:36.00 | Fisker- | i did a name change yesterday |
| 12:36.08 | Fisker- | didn't get the t-shirt or pizza |
| 12:36.40 | nevcairiel | how do you plan to get their GUID? :P |
| 12:36.41 | Polarina | s/gamemaster/gamemasters/ |
| 12:36.55 | Polarina | nevcairiel: player link? |
| 12:37.08 | nevcairiel | chat msgs are not enough to get a GUID |
| 12:37.13 | cncfanatics | Fisker-: I wonder if the guid of your char is the same before and after the change |
| 12:37.15 | Polarina | Oh.. :( |
| 12:37.18 | cncfanatics | if so, people could just recognize you |
| 12:37.21 | Fisker- | it is the same |
| 12:37.27 | cncfanatics | :o, funny |
| 12:37.29 | Fisker- | also |
| 12:37.35 | Fisker- | we could SWINDLE the Gamemasters |
| 12:37.38 | Fisker- | get them to appear |
| 12:37.39 | Fisker- | baww |
| 12:37.42 | nevcairiel | you need combatlog messages, be able to target them, or be in a group |
| 12:37.54 | Polarina | Fisker-: Maybe they have a special GUID prefix? |
| 12:38.04 | cncfanatics | I bet it'd return nil for them |
| 12:38.16 | Drundia | or you can do UnitGUID('target') |
| 12:38.26 | Fisker- | well they are players just like us |
| 12:38.29 | Polarina | cncfanatics: I bet Blizzard didn't think of Gamemaster's when creating the GUID function. |
| 12:38.36 | Fisker- | at some point there were a gamemaster on the armory as well :D |
| 12:38.58 | cncfanatics | :o |
| 12:39.02 | cncfanatics | just one ? |
| 12:39.26 | Fisker- | only heard of that one instance |
| 12:40.54 | Fisker- | weird |
| 12:41.05 | Fisker- | 20 raid members just got disconnected when getting a tears of the goddess |
| 12:41.28 | Kirov | Heh |
| 12:41.57 | Drundia | evil disconnecting addon when people touch items |
| 12:42.05 | Fisker- | i wonder if a new mob spawn = new loot |
| 12:42.22 | Kirov | reminds me of a news story where someone won $200,000 from a slot machine and the manager walked over and unplugged the machine saying it was an error. |
| 12:42.30 | Drundia | they say loot is generated when mobs are spawned |
| 12:42.42 | Fisker- | already know that |
| 12:42.48 | Fisker- | oldest news on the internets :P |
| 12:42.55 | Fisker- | blasted lands mobs = win |
| 12:43.02 | Polleke | is a boss resetting a new spawn tho is the big question |
| 12:43.10 | wereHamster | Fisker-, why? |
| 12:43.58 | AlexanderYoshi | good luck solving that one |
| 12:44.25 | foxlit | check guid, done |
| 12:44.48 | AlexanderYoshi | damnit fox, you're supposed to let them figure it out for themselves |
| 12:45.23 | Polarina | ? |
| 12:45.28 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 12:45.29 | Polleke | is a new guid a new loot roll |
| 12:45.43 | nevcairiel | who cares, you dont know whats in before or whats in after |
| 12:46.06 | cncfanatics | maybe, just maybe, guid of a mob and loot are linked |
| 12:46.07 | cncfanatics | it'd be funny |
| 12:46.34 | nevcairiel | probably came from the same random number generator, if thats linked for you :P |
| 12:46.34 | Fisker- | well noone knows if the server gets the initial loot and keeps it for the duration of the raid id |
| 12:47.19 | foxlit | You can approximate what wow servers do by thinking "what would I do if I had to code this?" and assuming that's the chosen solution |
| 12:47.58 | Polarina | foxlit: Does that actually work? |
| 12:48.07 | cncfanatics | I'd generate loot on mob spawning probably |
| 12:48.17 | cncfanatics | and that'd be dependant on the instance id for instances |
| 12:48.37 | foxlit | I'd generate loot on mob kills, since storing all that possible loot seems pointless |
| 12:48.42 | nevcairiel | everyone tried to "guess" or influence loot |
| 12:48.45 | nevcairiel | noone succeded |
| 12:48.47 | nevcairiel | get over it :P |
| 12:48.57 | foxlit | Polarina: depends on the question; sometimes. |
| 12:49.02 | *** join/#wowuidev Kirkburn (n=Kirkburn@wikia/Kirkburn) |
| 12:49.06 | Polarina | foxlit: :) |
| 12:49.39 | Drundia | i think if it's new guid it's new loot |
| 12:50.07 | foxlit | But why would you pre-generate loot on mobs spawns? |
| 12:50.45 | AlexanderYoshi | to guarantee an even distribution of items |
| 12:50.50 | nevcairiel | hahahaa |
| 12:50.53 | nevcairiel | even distribution |
| 12:50.54 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 12:50.56 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 12:50.57 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 12:50.58 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 12:51.01 | AlexanderYoshi | *shrug* |
| 12:51.21 | foxlit | Alex: assuming your RNG is random, you might as well roll when you need to |
| 12:51.54 | Kirov | everquest used to, but it would also send that information to clients |
| 12:52.13 | wereHamster | it's all random, and randomness doesn't care whether you generate it when a mob spawns or when someone kills the mob. generating items when a mob spawns would only waste memory |
| 12:52.19 | nevcairiel | its definately not even distribution, or i dont see the "even-ness" in a full BT clear dropping only one type of T6 tokens |
| 12:52.20 | Kirov | farmers would look to see what items where on mobs and only kill ones with good loot |
| 12:52.30 | *** join/#wowuidev Kirkburn (n=Kirkburn@wikia/Kirkburn) |
| 12:52.40 | AlexanderYoshi | it was just a possibility |
| 12:52.43 | foxlit | nev: a few thousand more BT clears where that doesn't happen? |
| 12:52.52 | Polleke | generating loot might be an expensive operation that you dont want to cause lag when opening the loot window |
| 12:52.52 | AlexanderYoshi | here's another option |
| 12:52.57 | AlexanderYoshi | generating loot is costly |
| 12:53.05 | AlexanderYoshi | and waiting until loot time would cause lag |
| 12:53.06 | cncfanatics | nah it ain't, it can't be |
| 12:53.10 | AlexanderYoshi | so you generate it earlier |
| 12:53.21 | AlexanderYoshi | so when they player cilcks they get instant gratification |
| 12:53.24 | Polarina | cncfanatics: Blizzard is really careful when it comes to loot. |
| 12:53.24 | cncfanatics | it nearly can't be from a programmer point of view |
| 12:53.46 | Polleke | we know that there are extensive logs of loot generated, perhaps that db operation takes time |
| 12:53.47 | foxlit | The pool lookups involved could be nasty |
| 12:53.47 | AlexanderYoshi | what are you talking about? creating items = generating table entries |
| 12:53.50 | nevcairiel | there have been rumors like "enter BT on a server that doesnt have any legendarys yet, if one of those is linkable now, Illidan carrys one" |
| 12:53.53 | nevcairiel | no idea if it works |
| 12:53.57 | wereHamster | there is a timespan between the mob dying and a player opening the loot window. That should be plenty of time for generating the loot |
| 12:54.18 | nevcairiel | wereHamster: you need to know if something dropped at all |
| 12:54.23 | Polleke | wereHamster, you can't rely on that, bad practice |
| 12:55.51 | Drundia | nevcairiel, i think it could as well be like that |
| 12:56.14 | AlexanderYoshi | that seems like an obvious exploit tho |
| 12:56.15 | Drundia | some 2nd and 3rd sunwell boss loot was already available on first day and i believe it wasn't those exchangeable tokens |
| 12:56.17 | AlexanderYoshi | doubt it works |
| 12:56.27 | Polleke | well that assumes that the item cache is populated when loot is generated, that is doubtfull |
| 12:56.32 | Drundia | but maybe i just fail again |
| 12:56.39 | Polarina | I think it is so the developers can detect swiftly if their PRNG broke before it's too late. :) |
| 12:57.04 | Drundia | if item cache is populated when loot is generated all loot might as well come in as soon as you first enter instance |
| 12:57.22 | Polleke | no because only the items that would drop would enter the cache |
| 12:57.29 | Polleke | thats the main idea behind that theory |
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| 12:57.38 | cncfanatics | Polarina: its called itemid |
| 12:57.41 | cncfanatics | and is already available |
| 12:57.53 | Polarina | cncfanatics: But it's not unique for each instance of a item. |
| 12:58.07 | wereHamster | Polarina, that would be overkill |
| 12:58.15 | Polarina | :) |
| 12:58.22 | foxlit | Plus things like stacks would kill it |
| 12:58.39 | foxlit | gift wrap items need an upgrade |
| 12:58.44 | foxlit | You can hardly wrap anything :( |
| 12:59.02 | Polarina | foxlit: You can only wrap items that don't stack. |
| 12:59.13 | foxlit | Can't be soulbound either |
| 12:59.19 | Polarina | :) |
| 13:00.05 | Polarina | I'm going to farm some Fel Iron Ore for a flying mount.. |
| 13:00.23 | foxlit | It'd be so much cooler without those restrictions |
| 13:00.36 | foxlit | Oh, and mob-style one-slot containers would be awesome, too |
| 13:00.39 | nevcairiel | yeah the stackable restriction needs to go |
| 13:00.47 | Drundia | i remember in early 2.1 tier 6 sets weren't linkable right after maintenances when there were already guilds raiding hyjal |
| 13:00.56 | Drundia | and bt |
| 13:01.08 | Drundia | but item vendor is in hyjal, so ignore that "and bt" |
| 13:01.20 | nevcairiel | supposedly summon needs to create a hyjal instance so the vendor spawns |
| 13:01.23 | nevcairiel | but *shrug |
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| 13:02.18 | apan51 | hello, how do you break out of a loop in lua? Ie break; in c++? |
| 13:02.27 | nevcairiel | break; |
| 13:02.34 | apan51 | doh :P tnx! |
| 13:02.42 | nevcairiel | you could've tried that.. |
| 13:02.53 | Kirov | though, it's good to note that continue doesn't exist in lua |
| 13:02.55 | nevcairiel | lua doesnt suppot continue though |
| 13:03.09 | cncfanatics | continue ? :o |
| 13:03.19 | Drundia | so you just put a big part of loot under if |
| 13:03.27 | Drundia | s/loot/loop/ |
| 13:03.33 | Kirov | cncfanatics - skips to the next iteration of a loop |
| 13:04.25 | cncfanatics | ah k |
| 13:04.31 | cncfanatics | thats sugar though :p |
| 13:05.31 | nevcairiel | thats a goto |
| 13:05.50 | Polleke | makes elegant code, and not the crap with shitloads of if |
| 13:05.56 | foxlit | goto 1! |
| 13:06.15 | cncfanatics | Polleke: there are the same amounts of ifs |
| 13:06.18 | Kirov | It's not really a goto |
| 13:06.20 | nevcairiel | gotos and illegant code? |
| 13:06.22 | cncfanatics | they just enclose more code :p |
| 13:06.30 | nevcairiel | gotos make for good spaghettis |
| 13:06.40 | AlexanderYoshi | ugh |
| 13:06.42 | foxlit | mm, food |
| 13:06.47 | AlexanderYoshi | I'm now up to 5 nested for loops |
| 13:06.56 | cncfanatics | AlexanderYoshi: what the ? |
| 13:06.56 | Fisker- | man |
| 13:07.01 | Fisker- | i hate archimonde |
| 13:07.11 | Fisker- | 20% everything was going smooth |
| 13:07.20 | Fisker- | then 6 of us got doomfire :I |
| 13:08.08 | cncfanatics | those 6 just fail |
| 13:08.13 | cncfanatics | its usualy always the same people missing up |
| 13:08.22 | AlexanderYoshi | they need to not get excited and stand in the fire |
| 13:08.41 | AlexanderYoshi | "Raiding Rule #1: Don't stand in the fire" |
| 13:08.51 | Polleke | last week, someone failed airburst on 12%, last person died as archi ran towards world tree. Next attempt, archi dies on 89% |
| 13:08.53 | AlexanderYoshi | don't stand in it, don't stand near it |
| 13:09.04 | Fisker- | it was spawned in us |
| 13:09.12 | Fisker- | we were totally gibbed |
| 13:09.17 | AlexanderYoshi | the spawn locations are pre-defined |
| 13:09.19 | AlexanderYoshi | you can avoid them |
| 13:09.22 | Fisker- | couldn't even heal myself before i was out of fear :< |
| 13:09.28 | Fisker- | sure |
| 13:09.51 | nevcairiel | yeah always spawn next to archi |
| 13:10.31 | Fisker- | i usually stand at 20-25 yards range to make sure i can't get out of range of the tank |
| 13:11.14 | AlexanderYoshi | idk, the only times I've died to fire are when I get feared and I was too far from my healer to start with |
| 13:12.33 | Fisker- | I AM THE HEALER RAWR |
| 13:12.45 | Fisker- | paladins suck @ healing ;_; |
| 13:12.55 | AlexanderYoshi | drop more tremor totems |
| 13:13.12 | Fisker- | shamans? What's that? |
| 13:13.15 | cncfanatics | can mages top damage meters these days ? |
| 13:13.28 | Fisker- | We raid exclusively with 10 priests and 1 pally |
| 13:13.33 | Drundia | only if they rerolled from something else |
| 13:13.41 | Fisker- | atleast almost :) |
| 13:13.47 | nevcairiel | cncfanatics: not really, rogues hunters and locks dominate :p |
| 13:14.21 | cncfanatics | it sounds weird to hear that -.- as I'm an ex-mage :p |
| 13:15.21 | nevcairiel | our brutallus kill we had a mage on #2, but our mages got full support (elemental shaman, shadow priest, heroism, etc), while the locks and hunter didnt get that |
| 13:15.30 | nevcairiel | rogue still topped #1 |
| 13:15.40 | foxlit | psst |
| 13:15.47 | foxlit | it aint full support without a turkey |
| 13:15.47 | Fisker- | one doesn't simply kill brutallus |
| 13:15.50 | Fisker- | anyways |
| 13:15.58 | Fisker- | here's hoping for Felstone Bulwark from Supremus |
| 13:16.07 | Fisker- | no paladin healers or shamans in this raid other than me :) |
| 13:16.10 | cncfanatics | hmmmm, well, I like topping meters |
| 13:16.14 | Kirov | rogues will almost always win. Simply comes down to the fact they don't have to deal with Mana |
| 13:16.17 | cncfanatics | and I also love playing mages (I play a rogue atm) |
| 13:16.17 | Drundia | it's people and gear and not class |
| 13:16.26 | Drundia | it's not mage class that fails but people that play it |
| 13:16.39 | nevcairiel | they are pretty close up now |
| 13:16.43 | foxlit | rogues need a silence mechanic |
| 13:16.47 | nevcairiel | but cant just reach rogues |
| 13:16.52 | cncfanatics | foxlit: its called disarm |
| 13:16.53 | Kirov | locks are a close second if they have a healer or two backing them up |
| 13:17.07 | Drundia | locks are getting crosshealed and hot'd |
| 13:17.18 | foxlit | cncfanatics: except nothing uses that in boss fights :( |
| 13:17.24 | cncfanatics | atumen disarms |
| 13:17.28 | Drundia | keeping mana up as lock is pretty easy |
| 13:17.35 | Drundia | well, of course, sometimes main tanks die...... |
| 13:17.39 | foxlit | Excuse me while I mock your progression |
| 13:17.42 | Mikk | woo atumen |
| 13:17.51 | Kirov | foxlit - family did |
| 13:18.00 | foxlit | the aq40 bugs? |
| 13:18.03 | Kirov | aye |
| 13:18.12 | foxlit | wrong expansion, I'm afraid :) |
| 13:18.19 | Kirov | silence, kick, counterspell, shield bash |
| 13:18.37 | foxlit | fear was probably the most annoying thing on that encounter |
| 13:18.42 | foxlit | coupled with the poison. |
| 13:18.43 | Drundia | some point blank aoe is what makes rogues run away |
| 13:18.46 | Fisker- | i'm gonna pwn you in WotLK |
| 13:18.51 | AlexanderYoshi | Is there an easy example of replacing the default wow error with a stack trace/ |
| 13:18.51 | Drundia | hunters don't seem to have any silence mechanic |
| 13:19.02 | Drundia | wtb pacify mechanic en masse |
| 13:19.02 | AlexanderYoshi | ? |
| 13:19.07 | Kirov | Drundia - er, silence shot? |
| 13:19.25 | cncfanatics | he means hunters can't be stopped from attacking |
| 13:19.30 | Kirov | ah |
| 13:19.33 | Drundia | well i'm rather talking about them being disabled |
| 13:19.35 | Drundia | in raids |
| 13:19.36 | cncfanatics | they can attack when they move, when they're silenced |
| 13:19.37 | Drundia | by bosses |
| 13:19.40 | Kirov | no, hunters aren't considered "spells" |
| 13:19.47 | Fisker- | but in EU they don't care ;_; |
| 13:19.52 | Kirov | We used to be back in 1.4 and prior |
| 13:19.58 | foxlit | but they do get spell pushback :) |
| 13:19.59 | Kirov | spell reflect was a bitch |
| 13:20.08 | nevcairiel | AlexanderYoshi: http://code.google.com/p/wow-haste/source/browse/trunk/oShit/error.lua |
| 13:20.10 | Kirov | foxlit - no we don't |
| 13:20.28 | Kirov | I can arcane shot a guy with spell reflect w/o fear |
| 13:20.42 | Kirov | I can also hit guys who reflect melee |
| 13:20.45 | foxlit | then how do I ever postpone myself from being aim shotted by spamming moonfire? |
| 13:21.02 | Kirov | Most places they've change them to reflect all non-spell damage instead |
| 13:21.04 | haste | AlexanderYoshi: I would suggest you to use http://ixo.no/git/oShit.git/ instead of the gcode |
| 13:21.09 | Drundia | Alex, my simple way was like http://www.pastey.net/85210 |
| 13:21.30 | Kirov | foxlit - oh, sorry, misunderstood |
| 13:21.33 | nevcairiel | haste: did the code change that much? :D |
| 13:21.39 | Kirov | yes, we get spell delays |
| 13:21.41 | Drundia | it sits around some random lua file i have |
| 13:21.44 | haste | no, but the gcode will be wiped |
| 13:21.57 | Kirov | both in autoshot and "casted" spells (stead / aimed) |
| 13:22.00 | Fisker- | o hai haste |
| 13:22.00 | nevcairiel | he only wanted a example and i didnt know your git :P |
| 13:22.14 | haste | ah, only saw you lonk it :p |
| 13:22.21 | cncfanatics | whats so much better about git then svn ? |
| 13:22.27 | haste | fast as hell |
| 13:22.35 | haste | and you can branch without any issues |
| 13:22.40 | cncfanatics | :o |
| 13:22.45 | cncfanatics | WTB googlecode on git |
| 13:22.47 | haste | I have like 2-5 branches all the time now |
| 13:22.56 | haste | even for small changes |
| 13:23.08 | nevcairiel | maybe i should setup a test git on my server |
| 13:23.08 | haste | since I can revert back to my stable version if I need to raid for example |
| 13:23.11 | haste | without loosing my changes |
| 13:23.26 | nevcairiel | i am lazy though, and would like TortoiseGIT or something :P |
| 13:23.39 | cncfanatics | can it merge without losing the whole change history ? |
| 13:23.49 | haste | yes |
| 13:24.02 | haste | you can also merge and rewrite the commit history |
| 13:24.06 | haste | ie. you can commit often as hell |
| 13:24.16 | haste | and merge it all into one commit at the end |
| 13:24.30 | haste | or remove certain commits etc :3 |
| 13:24.33 | cncfanatics | supose i wanted to start using git, can I somehow use my svn history ? |
| 13:24.39 | haste | yep |
| 13:24.39 | Drundia | Kirov, i think you hunters got pushbacks together with deadzone removal |
| 13:24.46 | haste | git-svn let's you import the history |
| 13:24.54 | cncfanatics | sexy |
| 13:25.03 | haste | http://ixo.no/git/oChat.git/log/ << you can see there for example |
| 13:25.11 | cncfanatics | now, any way to get it free without having to host it myself ? |
| 13:25.12 | haste | 2007-12-22 is the last SVN commit |
| 13:25.15 | Kirov | Drundia - no, we had it before too |
| 13:25.30 | haste | cncfanatics: ask tekkub about github, maybe he has some invites |
| 13:25.37 | haste | there's another git repo there also |
| 13:25.37 | Drundia | Kirov, never saw them |
| 13:25.41 | Kirov | autoshot delays I think is new, but aimed shot always was |
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| 13:25.55 | haste | cncfanatics: http://repo.or.cz/ |
| 13:25.58 | Drundia | i know that wands always had pushbacks |
| 13:25.59 | Kirov | There was a bug that it didn't show, but it did happen. |
| 13:26.07 | haste | cncfanatics: I believe github is a lot better tho' |
| 13:26.23 | Drundia | well, they appear to be lower than for real spells |
| 13:26.29 | Drundia | another bug? |
| 13:26.36 | leethal | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:26.49 | haste | leethal: :SetTexture(r, g, b) |
| 13:26.58 | leethal | tnx! |
| 13:28.11 | haste | cncfanatics: http://hastey.pastey.net/85211-3yij << that's how fast it is, doing a diff to a revision 100 commits earlier :p |
| 13:29.24 | nevcairiel | haste: there still are no native windows clients, no? i find it silly to install cygwin or something :/ |
| 13:30.10 | AlexanderYoshi | Drundia, perfect, thanks |
| 13:30.41 | cncfanatics | I'm currently on windows atm unfortunatly heh |
| 13:30.54 | cncfanatics | or is it compilable with mingw ? |
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| 13:31.54 | nevcairiel | there is msysgit |
| 13:32.35 | cncfanatics | we'll probably get a turtoisegit soon :p |
| 13:32.44 | nevcairiel | not before a official windows port |
| 13:32.49 | cncfanatics | true |
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| 13:34.56 | JoshBorke | they are making progress |
| 13:35.04 | JoshBorke | msysgit works well |
| 13:35.26 | haste | nevcairiel: I have no idea, I run linux, so it's really outside my world of care :p |
| 13:35.39 | cncfanatics | haste: used to be the same for me |
| 13:35.44 | cncfanatics | till ati messed up even more then they used to |
| 13:35.52 | cncfanatics | WoW is pretty unplayable on linux for me atm |
| 13:35.53 | haste | AMD has released their specs now tho' |
| 13:36.01 | haste | even the open source drivers can render 3D now |
| 13:36.02 | cncfanatics | all of them ? :o |
| 13:36.08 | haste | it's slow as hell tho' |
| 13:36.12 | haste | many at least |
| 13:36.13 | cncfanatics | no point then |
| 13:36.23 | haste | but! |
| 13:36.32 | haste | why would you buy ati if you had linux :p ? |
| 13:36.33 | cncfanatics | I supose it'll get faster eventualy |
| 13:36.45 | cncfanatics | I bought this computer before I even knew what linux was |
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| 13:37.04 | Kirov_ | cncfanatics - but do you know what linux is now, really? |
| 13:37.10 | Kirov_ | Does anyone ever? |
| 13:37.11 | haste | :D |
| 13:37.27 | Cide | IT'S BETTER THAN WINDOWS, AND FREE |
| 13:37.44 | haste | it let's me run wmii and midori |
| 13:37.46 | haste | I'm happy |
| 13:38.03 | cncfanatics | I'm probably going to buy a laptop in a few months |
| 13:38.07 | cncfanatics | I'll get linux on that :) |
| 13:38.09 | Kirov_ | Except perhaps god, er, Torvalds himself! |
| 13:38.14 | Fisker- | WINDOWS IS FREE TOO |
| 13:38.17 | Fisker- | :D |
| 13:38.28 | haste | very! |
| 13:38.29 | cncfanatics | Kirov_: fail |
| 13:38.34 | cncfanatics | windows is free tbh :p |
| 13:38.43 | cncfanatics | I never bought any microsoft software :p |
| 13:38.58 | Kirov_ | I don't use linux. |
| 13:39.02 | Kirov_ | at all |
| 13:39.04 | AlexanderYoshi | Hi Cide |
| 13:39.04 | Cide | that doesn't mean it's free. |
| 13:39.07 | Cide | hi AlexanderYoshi |
| 13:39.14 | Cide | I heard you were telling filthy lies about ctmod last night |
| 13:39.21 | Kirov_ | I like being able to play video games. |
| 13:39.24 | AlexanderYoshi | You dirty keylogger, you! |
| 13:39.24 | Kirov_ | all of them |
| 13:39.41 | cncfanatics | you realize you can play them on linux (if ati stopped failing that is) |
| 13:39.52 | AlexanderYoshi | I believe I also called Drundia an IRL keylogger |
| 13:40.00 | Cide | AlexanderYoshi: iriel :) |
| 13:40.04 | AlexanderYoshi | ah yes |
| 13:40.05 | Cide | he is indeed a keylogger |
| 13:40.07 | AlexanderYoshi | He is! |
| 13:40.08 | Kirov_ | cncfanatics - sure, if I want to play them at half the fps |
| 13:40.11 | Cide | how're things? |
| 13:40.15 | AlexanderYoshi | goign well |
| 13:40.17 | cncfanatics | Kirov_: thats only true for ati hardware |
| 13:40.25 | AlexanderYoshi | I've almost got my healer awards mod working |
| 13:40.31 | cncfanatics | at least inform yourself, nvidia hardware renders games fine at the same or higher fps then on windows |
| 13:40.32 | Cide | and jumping through hoops to get it working |
| 13:40.33 | Kirov_ | cncfanatics - not with my computer :p |
| 13:40.44 | Cide | AlexanderYoshi: sweet |
| 13:40.55 | Kirov_ | the issue isn't rendering, it's all the rest |
| 13:41.05 | cncfanatics | what is "all the rest" ? |
| 13:41.11 | wereHamster | Kirov_, if you want to play games at full speed on linux, start bugging the developers to make linux ports. You can start with Blizzard for example |
| 13:41.12 | Kirov_ | cpu |
| 13:41.17 | Cide | did you know? linux embeds a sleep(10) after every function call. |
| 13:41.24 | Cide | for increased stability. |
| 13:41.26 | Kirov_ | wereHamster - but why? |
| 13:41.27 | AlexanderYoshi | that's slower than windows! |
| 13:41.39 | Cide | that's less than 9000! |
| 13:41.40 | foxlit | ~framexml |
| 13:41.41 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wdnaddons.com/ |
| 13:42.00 | Kirov_ | there's no money in linux games |
| 13:42.09 | Fisker- | ~wdn |
| 13:42.10 | purl | World of Warcraft Developer Network, a website where you can see the changes made to WoW's interface files between versions and also where you can download said versions. http://wdn.wowinterface.com/ |
| 13:42.19 | foxlit | That's just odd |
| 13:42.19 | Kirov_ | There's barely any money in pc games in general |
| 13:42.29 | foxlit | Why would they zip their add kit app? |
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| 13:42.39 | Kirov_ | The only pc game that's made money in the last couple of years has been WoW |
| 13:42.42 | Drundia | there were some weird linux paths inside wow mpqs |
| 13:43.01 | cncfanatics | Kirov_: thats far from truth |
| 13:43.09 | JoshBorke | AlexanderYoshi: Healer awards mod? |
| 13:43.10 | wereHamster | so why did blizz cancel the linux port? |
| 13:43.23 | cncfanatics | did they ever even plan one ? |
| 13:43.24 | Drundia | because i still don't have linux i think |
| 13:43.33 | wereHamster | there was a linux version in the beta days |
| 13:43.38 | Kirov_ | cncfanatics - exageration, yes |
| 13:43.48 | Drundia | every time i want to make addon blizzard either puts it into basic ui or disables that kind of functionality..... |
| 13:43.57 | Fisker- | my cats are trying to sleep |
| 13:43.57 | Fisker- | baww |
| 13:44.01 | Kirov_ | cncfanatics - the simple fact is that most game development houses are dropping pc gaming. |
| 13:44.18 | Kirov_ | cncfanatics - the ones that aren't are more actively persuing consoles |
| 13:44.37 | cncfanatics | thats mainly because console games are harder to hack |
| 13:44.46 | wereHamster | but there are games that you will never be able to play on consoles |
| 13:44.52 | Drundia | operating systems are eating too much performance |
| 13:45.00 | wereHamster | wow on a console? I can't imagine that |
| 13:45.01 | cncfanatics | depends what one |
| 13:45.02 | cncfanatics | vista, indeed |
| 13:45.05 | AlexanderYoshi | JoshBorke I've only been talking about it all night! |
| 13:45.05 | cncfanatics | xp, indeed |
| 13:45.07 | cncfanatics | linux, nope |
| 13:45.10 | cncfanatics | so, ALL TO LINUX |
| 13:45.17 | JoshBorke | AlexanderYoshi: i've only not been here since yesterday afternoon! |
| 13:45.20 | Kirov_ | cncfanatics - it's also, sadly, because the console market is a "dumber" market. |
| 13:45.27 | cncfanatics | how so ? |
| 13:45.30 | JoshBorke | wait |
| 13:45.38 | Kirov_ | linux / pc gamers tend to be better informed. |
| 13:45.39 | JoshBorke | AlexanderYoshi: i've only not been here since friday night! |
| 13:45.52 | Kirov_ | linux especially so |
| 13:45.53 | cncfanatics | true, a lot of console players are little children |
| 13:45.55 | JoshBorke | ~logs |
| 13:45.56 | purl | it has been said that logs is apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
| 13:46.14 | Kirov_ | bad games don't sell at all on the pc, where they can sell millions on the consoles. |
| 13:46.57 | AlexanderYoshi | YES! It works! |
| 13:47.10 | AlexanderYoshi | Come, Cide, we must discuss this more behind closed doors! |
| 13:47.22 | AlexanderYoshi | by which i mean we should cyb0r in whispers |
| 13:47.26 | Cide | hot |
| 13:47.31 | AlexanderYoshi | :-D |
| 13:47.44 | Kirov_ | pc gamers also tend to be more knowledgeble about where and how to get games "for free". It's still possible for console games, but the bar for entry is higher, and there's fewer people doing it. |
| 13:48.07 | Drundia | world should all be free! |
| 13:48.18 | JoshBorke | AlexanderYoshi: no logs! you lie! |
| 13:48.32 | JoshBorke | AlexanderYoshi: all you say is you want to be talked out of writing an addon! |
| 13:48.33 | Kirov_ | Drundia - Sure, I fully support that. |
| 13:48.57 | Kirov_ | Drundia - Next time you're about to get paid, make sure to tell your employer you don't want the money. |
| 13:49.45 | wereHamster | Drundia, s/world/informations/ |
| 13:50.28 | AlexanderYoshi | yes |
| 13:50.31 | AlexanderYoshi | and nobody talked me out of it |
| 13:51.04 | Kirov_ | I did my best to lead him astray, but alas, he found the path |
| 13:52.28 | AlexanderYoshi | The world was free |
| 13:52.31 | AlexanderYoshi | until we put a price on it |
| 13:52.32 | Drundia | people should get rid of concept of money and come to a concept of sharing |
| 13:52.43 | AlexanderYoshi | and demanded ownership and the right to refuse ppl access to our stuff |
| 13:52.46 | cncfanatics | communism didn't turn out that wall |
| 13:52.53 | cncfanatics | s/wall/well/ |
| 13:53.38 | Drundia | there were reasons why communism failed |
| 13:53.54 | Drundia | i'd say it was tried out too early |
| 13:54.47 | cncfanatics | well, the principle of getting a reward for your work ain't a bad one |
| 13:54.56 | cncfanatics | if you could get everything free, why work ? |
| 13:55.38 | Drundia | there shouldn't be work either |
| 13:55.42 | Drundia | robots should do everything |
| 13:56.30 | cncfanatics | then whats the point of being around ? |
| 13:56.37 | cncfanatics | life would get pretty boring without work |
| 13:57.22 | Drundia | it's about doing what you do now as work for fun because you like it |
| 13:57.29 | Kirov_ | I'm one of those weird people who if I won the lottery would still go to work |
| 13:57.41 | cncfanatics | Kirov_: same here |
| 13:57.42 | Kirov_ | I'd probably take a year off, but I'd eventually get bored. |
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| 14:02.44 | Fisker- | cyber_ |
| 14:02.45 | Fisker- | ? |
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| 14:03.42 | Kirov_ | cyber? |
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| 14:11.06 | Fisker- | OMG |
| 14:11.09 | Fisker- | HEALING ITEMS DROPPED FOR ME |
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| 14:12.13 | AlexanderYoshi | zomg |
| 14:12.15 | AlexanderYoshi | grats2u |
| 14:12.26 | Fisker- | pearl inlaid boots :) |
| 14:12.33 | Fisker- | and the other paladin wasn't here wee |
| 14:12.40 | AlexanderYoshi | which raid |
| 14:12.46 | Fisker- | felstone bulwark plx |
| 14:12.48 | Fisker- | black temple |
| 14:12.51 | AlexanderYoshi | kewl |
| 14:14.08 | nevcairiel | i hope i can get t6 girdle today |
| 14:14.21 | nevcairiel | and not some crazy rogue bids over me again :P |
| 14:14.29 | AlexanderYoshi | wtf is sior|away |
| 14:14.37 | AlexanderYoshi | sioraiocht |
| 14:14.46 | nevcairiel | clads bf |
| 14:17.15 | AlexanderYoshi | lawl |
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| 14:23.58 | Polleke | how on earth am I supposed to fix this, stop message for a cast comming in before the start message |
| 14:24.19 | nevcairiel | o.O |
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| 14:25.18 | AlexanderYoshi | what's the situation? |
| 14:27.27 | Polleke | start message is comming from SPELL_START and stop message from SPELL_STOP. SPELL_START is fired after server confirmed cast is happening. And SPELL_STOP is always done. So if I esc a spell before server confirmed this happens |
| 14:28.30 | AlexanderYoshi | ah yes |
| 14:28.39 | AlexanderYoshi | ignore irrelevant SPELL_START messages? |
| 14:29.10 | Polleke | how do I determine a SPELL_START is irrelevant? |
| 14:29.28 | Polleke | if a SPELL_STOP happened in the past .5 seconds? |
| 14:29.39 | nevcairiel | cant you use UNIT_SPELLCAST_START? |
| 14:29.41 | nevcairiel | or something? |
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| 14:30.16 | Drundia | i think UNIT_SPELLCAST_START is always good |
| 14:30.35 | Drundia | there is UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT which is often irrelevant |
| 14:31.11 | Polleke | I'm using _SENT to determine target, nothing more |
| 14:31.23 | Polleke | oh I said SPELL_START I meant SPELLCAST_START |
| 14:31.24 | reqol | how do you utilize the new ... ? the pil still has the outdated version |
| 14:31.47 | JoshBorke | reqol: local var1, var2, var3, var4 = ... |
| 14:32.06 | reqol | simple enough, thanks! |
| 14:32.07 | JoshBorke | or for i=1,select('#', ...) do print(select(i, ...)) |
| 14:32.12 | JoshBorke | end |
| 14:36.18 | krka | i think you mean print((select(i, ...))) |
| 14:36.24 | SpiderBK | spell,rank = GetSpellName(i,"spell"); why does rank return something like artisan and such things for spells without rank? |
| 14:36.46 | cncfanatics | artisan, expert, master are ranks for professions |
| 14:37.14 | SpiderBK | aha |
| 14:37.20 | Polleke | ah, found a solution. If I wait for a SPELLCAST_STOP with no spellname then the stop is confirmed by the server and always later than SPELLCAST_START |
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| 14:49.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=B912A18EB4D112CCF05D6F6403FFFBF6?topicId=5754387122&sid=1 |
| 14:49.38 | ScytheBlade1 | ........................... |
| 14:50.23 | AlexanderYoshi | .... |
| 14:50.27 | cncfanatics | ScytheBlade1: thanks for passing on your session id |
| 14:50.29 | *** kick/#WoWUIDev [ScytheBlade1!n=Alexande@ip68-109-71-246.oc.oc.cox.net] by AlexanderYoshi (Kick) |
| 14:50.32 | cncfanatics | I'll go post nasty stuff on your name |
| 14:50.41 | nevcairiel | lopopeppy? even misspelled |
| 14:50.47 | *** join/#wowuidev ScytheBlade1 (n=Death@about/pxe/ScytheBlade1) |
| 14:50.48 | AlexanderYoshi | No more naked gnomes, Scythe! |
| 14:50.48 | nevcairiel | cncfanatics: you cant do shit with the id |
| 14:50.50 | wereHamster | isn't the session id bound to an IP? |
| 14:50.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Curse you, you made me remember the name of the new channel! |
| 14:50.59 | ScytheBlade1 | :( |
| 14:51.11 | AlexanderYoshi | haha |
| 14:51.11 | ScytheBlade1 | cncfanatics: yeah, blizz did the SIDs right, so, meh! |
| 14:51.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Plus I'm not logged in |
| 14:51.20 | ScytheBlade1 | So it's even more of a moot point |
| 14:51.50 | ScytheBlade1 | But yeah |
| 14:51.54 | ScytheBlade1 | .................... @ thread |
| 14:52.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Of course, they outright butchered her name |
| 14:53.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Not that this is surprising, considering I only know how to type "lop[tab]" |
| 14:55.47 | foxlit | Channel name is in CRaZYcaSe |
| 14:55.56 | ScytheBlade1 | And here, some "not-gnome-porn!" http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5754437203&sid=1 |
| 14:56.04 | foxlit | well, no, but it's still an unholy mix of lower/upper case |
| 14:56.41 | nevcairiel | not that the server cares if you type it all lower case on join |
| 14:59.38 | cncfanatics | so I could join WoWUiDeV ? |
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| 15:01.48 | ScytheBlade1 | cncfanatics: you can join it in any case you please |
| 15:03.35 | cncfanatics | W0WU1D3V won't work :( |
| 15:05.38 | Fisker- | I always code in CraZYcaSe |
| 15:06.37 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 15:07.05 | cncfanatics | does anyone know if GetAttribute is a lot more expensive then a regular table lookup ? |
| 15:07.14 | cncfanatics | if blizz implemented it well it shouldn't be much more expensive should it ? |
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| 15:10.22 | Cide | I know; try it out |
| 15:10.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: <3 |
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| 15:11.19 | Lopeppeppy | Even with the weird accent in pronouncing my complex gnomish name... You're a doll. *hug* |
| 15:11.38 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 15:11.52 | ScytheBlade1 | You gotta give the picture some credit, though |
| 15:12.07 | Lopeppeppy | Hawt male gnomes... Peppy's husband would be jealous.... *laugh* |
| 15:12.19 | ScytheBlade1 | It is... if nothing else, something new on the UI board ;) |
| 15:12.44 | Lopeppeppy | The quality of "unique" shouldn't be overlooked. You made me smile, those are rare and happy things. |
| 15:12.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Hehe |
| 15:14.52 | Lopeppeppy | I posted back with a picture of my character in a party dress, just so no one thinks she goes around with pink hair ALL the time. Just when posing in the throne room. :) |
| 15:15.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Hahaha |
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| 15:17.30 | ScytheBlade1 | That is pretty much awesome |
| 15:17.54 | Lopeppeppy | It's my Sunday Smile, going down in the history books. :) |
| 15:18.09 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 15:18.42 | cncfanatics | Lopeppeppy: how did you get your name ? |
| 15:21.06 | leethal | radian circles are counter clockwise, right? |
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| 15:30.58 | cncfanatics | ~seen mpowel |
| 15:31.01 | purl | i haven't seen 'mpowel', cncfanatics |
| 15:34.26 | sylvanaar | how random leethal, blizz should use you for generating loot tables |
| 15:34.44 | leethal | \o/ |
| 15:35.03 | leethal | I hate randoms, though *snicker* |
| 15:35.18 | sylvanaar | lol |
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| 15:35.52 | foxlit | gr, anonymous frames |
| 15:35.59 | sylvanaar | how about, "it depends on which side of the circle you are looking at" |
| 15:36.05 | foxlit | Make things so much more complicated |
| 15:36.12 | sylvanaar | yes they do |
| 15:36.26 | sylvanaar | however |
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| 15:37.55 | leethal | sylvanaar: yeah guess it's a silly question. I was thinking of those things you have in math class, which I found on google image search anyway |
| 15:38.07 | Lopeppeppy | cncfanatics, it came out of the random name generator, to be honest. |
| 15:38.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Wait, really? |
| 15:38.28 | leethal | guess that's just a 'convention' for that particular representation of a radian circle |
| 15:38.53 | sylvanaar | foxlit http://www.wowwiki.com/Dump_G |
| 15:39.39 | foxlit | sylvanaar: what do I owe the link? :) |
| 15:40.00 | foxlit | "radian circle"? |
| 15:40.06 | sylvanaar | anonymous frames |
| 15:40.17 | leethal | foxlit: hmm, isn't that what they call them? or is it 'degree circle' or something? |
| 15:40.19 | foxlit | but why would I want a global dump? |
| 15:40.30 | foxlit | leethal: That depends on what you mean. |
| 15:40.51 | foxlit | A circle with radius = 1 is a unit circle |
| 15:40.53 | leethal | the plastic things you use in math class at school to draw angles |
| 15:41.32 | dylanm | leethal: It's how they're typically defined, in the sense that everything relating to the calculus of angles is defined on a circle generated by (cos x, sin x), x in [0,2pi). |
| 15:41.35 | foxlit | Protractors? compasses? |
| 15:42.05 | leethal | protractor, yes |
| 15:42.24 | foxlit | Generally, they're numbered in both directions |
| 15:42.33 | leethal | I should get a math book for 13 year olds, I fail at basic math things >< |
| 15:42.34 | dylanm | So I guess that gives you an orientation. |
| 15:43.14 | foxlit | Since you typically use them to simply get two direction vectors from a point with a specific angle between them |
| 15:43.17 | Lopeppeppy | I fail at basic addition, I'd need to start over in kindergarten. |
| 15:43.28 | sylvanaar | foxlit its filled with stuff like FriendsFrameFriendsScrollFrameScrollBarScrollDownButton |
| 15:44.09 | foxlit | Lopeppeppy: news: almost everyone fails at basic addition, it's just a symptom of bein out of kindergarden :P |
| 15:44.43 | sag_ich_nicht | [17:41] <dylanm> leethal: It's how they're typically defined, in the sense that everything relating to the calculus of angles is defined on a circle generated by (cos x, sin x), x in [0,2pi). <--SILENCE |
| 15:44.46 | sag_ich_nicht | I KILL YOU |
| 15:44.52 | sag_ich_nicht | sucking sin calculations |
| 15:44.54 | sag_ich_nicht | *fucking |
| 15:44.54 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 15:44.58 | sag_ich_nicht | always highlighting me |
| 15:44.58 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 15:44.59 | foxlit | sin > * |
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| 15:45.36 | foxlit | sine, not so much |
| 15:47.06 | foxlit | frame:SetBackdrop(GameTooltip:GetBackdrop()); |
| 15:47.09 | foxlit | I wonder if that's too lazy |
| 15:50.55 | Cide | which one's better, sin or cos? |
| 15:51.11 | Cide | I vote for sin |
| 15:51.29 | foxlit | foxlit: sin > |
| 15:51.30 | foxlit | * |
| 15:51.53 | Lopeppeppy | I always voted for tangent, but that's just because I'm kind of random in conversation. |
| 15:54.10 | Arrowmaster | sin because it annoys sag_ich_nicht |
| 15:54.13 | foxlit | I forget how much I hate writing configuration stuff |
| 15:54.19 | foxlit | Why would he highlight sin, anyway? |
| 15:54.29 | foxlit | initials are overrated :( |
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| 15:58.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Fun and profit? |
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| 16:00.41 | AlexanderYoshi | can any mages here tell me |
| 16:00.49 | AlexanderYoshi | when someone breaks sheep |
| 16:00.53 | AlexanderYoshi | does it fire the AURA_REMOVED event/ |
| 16:00.56 | AlexanderYoshi | ? |
| 16:01.12 | AlexanderYoshi | similarly, what if they dispelled it |
| 16:02.12 | nevcairiel | SPELL_AURA_DISPELLED fires if you break sheep |
| 16:02.17 | nevcairiel | no idea if _REMOVE oto |
| 16:02.19 | nevcairiel | *too |
| 16:03.12 | Drundia | one is old "Target's Polymorph is removed by Dispeller's Spell", other is old "Polymorph fades from Target." - both fired in the old system |
| 16:03.34 | AlexanderYoshi | what fires now |
| 16:03.50 | Drundia | shouldn't it be both? |
| 16:04.01 | AlexanderYoshi | i assume so |
| 16:04.04 | AlexanderYoshi | but didnt want to guess |
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| 16:04.48 | nevcairiel | i know for a fact that _DISPELLED fires |
| 16:05.08 | nevcairiel | i dont have old combatlogs anymore to check for _REMOVE |
| 16:05.32 | Drundia | i'll check current situation |
| 16:05.43 | Drundia | by break you mean do damage? |
| 16:05.46 | AlexanderYoshi | yeah |
| 16:05.48 | AlexanderYoshi | or dispel |
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| 16:06.43 | sag_ich_nicht | [17:54] <foxlit> initials are overrated :( <--sin doesn't have any "meaning" in german |
| 16:06.52 | sag_ich_nicht | so some people have gone over to calling me that :P |
| 16:07.39 | AlexanderYoshi | i think it does fire |
| 16:09.21 | Drundia | Your Fireball cleansed Target Polymorph; Polymorph dissipated Target |
| 16:09.27 | AlexanderYoshi | cool |
| 16:09.30 | Drundia | so i think both |
| 16:09.35 | AlexanderYoshi | thank you |
| 16:10.49 | Drundia | what are you working on? |
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| 16:17.05 | Polarina | As anyone aware of this? I'm in Zangarmash and can see in the combat log some player fighting Captain Zovax (Who is located in Netherstorm!)... o.O |
| 16:17.41 | dylanm | Happens a lot. |
| 16:18.29 | Drundia | yes happens now and then |
| 16:18.56 | Drundia | zangar - nether; shattrath - bem; silvermoon - netherwing |
| 16:18.59 | Polarina | A massive Blizzardy fail, I guess... |
| 16:21.25 | Polarina | My guess that on the server, it only checks the coordinates of the current zone, but doesn't check if the two zones are the same or not. So, one at 64, 24 in Nagrand can see what someone at 65, 23 in Netherstorm is doing... o.O |
| 16:21.58 | foxlit | that's a wonderful theory |
| 16:22.02 | foxlit | So why only netherstorm? |
| 16:22.10 | foxlit | Why not, say, hellfire? |
| 16:22.18 | Polarina | foxlit: That too.. |
| 16:22.25 | Drundia | there are 3 linked places |
| 16:22.29 | Polarina | foxlit: Zones I mentioned were examples... |
| 16:22.30 | Drundia | that i saw |
| 16:22.46 | Drundia | i saw blade edge mountains form shattrath |
| 16:22.52 | foxlit | Polarina: you should be seeing a lot more than what you saw for that to work :) |
| 16:22.53 | Drundia | and netherwing mines from silvermoon |
| 16:23.38 | End | that dpesn |
| 16:23.39 | End | er |
| 16:23.43 | End | that doesn't make sense |
| 16:24.03 | End | internally it's by continent |
| 16:24.17 | Polarina | End: Or continent, whatever... |
| 16:24.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Whoops |
| 16:24.22 | ScytheBlade1 | I was scrolled up |
| 16:24.26 | ScytheBlade1 | I wondered why chat had stopped |
| 16:24.27 | Drundia | blood elf and draenei startings are internally in outland |
| 16:24.31 | End | yes |
| 16:24.44 | End | (much to my annoyance) |
| 16:25.14 | foxlit | But it's le awesome! |
| 16:25.20 | foxlit | They should just add sunwell-style flightpaths |
| 16:25.37 | Polarina | I wonder if there's a specific spot where you can monitor the combat-log from everywhere (Outland and Azeroth)... :O |
| 16:26.48 | Polarina | I'll run out-of-memory most likely. (Client internal 5 min. combat storage, and my combat log monitoring piece of junky addon). |
| 16:27.07 | Drundia | client internal storage limit is unknown |
| 16:27.44 | Polarina | Drundia: 5 minutes. |
| 16:27.50 | Drundia | no, it's unknown |
| 16:28.03 | Drundia | you can find messages 2 hours old with that setting |
| 16:28.16 | Drundia | they just don't expire properly |
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| 16:30.23 | Polarina | Jæks... WoW is using 700 MiB memory! |
| 16:30.33 | foxlit | Millibytes! |
| 16:30.54 | End | minibytes! |
| 16:31.10 | Polarina | Mibibytes. |
| 16:31.36 | foxlit | technically, Mebibytes |
| 16:31.42 | Polarina | :) |
| 16:31.47 | foxlit | But End's is so much more <3 |
| 16:32.35 | End | Minibytes almost sounds like the name of a cereal |
| 16:33.02 | Polarina | I only see combat-log entries that player did something to a mob, but not the opposite. And I've never seen a entry that I shouldn't have seen from a player of the opposite faction... |
| 16:33.27 | Drundia | i think it works that way, Polarina |
| 16:33.44 | Drundia | but i think i saw once opposing faction player |
| 16:33.51 | Drundia | i could be wrong... |
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| 16:34.00 | Drundia | yes i did /who because they all display as hostile |
| 16:34.21 | Polarina | No, wait, I meant that I always see players of the opposite faction.. |
| 16:34.34 | Drundia | no, they just show as opposite faction ones |
| 16:34.40 | Drundia | sometimes they are good |
| 16:34.58 | Polarina | O.o |
| 16:35.13 | Drundia | you know, when you see a totem or a pet but not master they appear to you as hostile |
| 16:35.39 | Drundia | combat log issue seems to work same way |
| 16:35.56 | Drundia | you don't see that player so client treats it as hostile |
| 16:36.00 | Polarina | I was going to kill that player I saw in the combat log, now I saw (in the combat log) that it's a Rogue with full Arena Season 1 hear! |
| 16:36.22 | Polarina | s/hear/gear/ |
| 16:38.06 | zenzelezz | "BT/MH Boost. Paying 3000 gold per item" o_O |
| 16:38.10 | leethal | what's the name of those built-in yes/no confirmation dialogues? |
| 16:39.15 | leethal | you can use those and pass a function for what'll happen if one clicks 'yes', right? |
| 16:39.16 | sylvanaar | StaticPopup ? |
| 16:39.24 | leethal | ah, thanx! |
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| 16:43.55 | foxlit | "You need to call GetNumMacroIcons() at least once before calling GetMacroIconInfo(), or the function will only return empty strings." |
| 16:44.06 | foxlit | eeeevil! |
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| 16:47.40 | MentalPower|ZzZz | foxlit: why is that evil? |
| 16:48.00 | foxlit | It's an unrelated requirement |
| 16:48.20 | foxlit | You may want to look up a specific macro's icon without wanting to know the number of icons available |
| 16:48.48 | foxlit | If it's there for efficiency reasons, it seems odd |
| 16:48.49 | MentalPower | yes, but GetNumMacroIcons() initializes the data store |
| 16:48.55 | zenzelezz | well, they could have added another function, InitializeMacroCache or something, but if that function already does it, why bother? |
| 16:49.01 | MentalPower | Polarina: other than to check for NaN, what for? |
| 16:49.13 | Polarina | MentalPower: Checking for NaNs. |
| 16:49.19 | MentalPower | ah, k then :) |
| 16:49.24 | foxlit | zenzelezz: why not have GetMacroIconInfo() initialize the store and leave NumMacroIcons alone? |
| 16:49.44 | zenzelezz | then what if you wanted to get the number of icons but not ask for info? |
| 16:49.58 | MentalPower | chicken and the egg :) |
| 16:50.00 | foxlit | Then you'd be entirely fine and happy |
| 16:50.25 | foxlit | Have them _both_ initialize the thing if it hasn't already |
| 16:50.35 | MentalPower | foxlit, InitializeMacroIconCache = GetNumMacroIcons |
| 16:50.37 | foxlit | Or, better yet, get GetMacroInfo to return the actual texture than some index |
| 16:50.39 | MentalPower | done! |
| 16:51.22 | foxlit | MP: local oGMI = GetMacroIconInfo; function GetMacroIconInfo(i) GetNumMacroIcons() return oGMI(i); end |
| 16:51.24 | foxlit | is more like it |
| 16:51.52 | MentalPower | meh |
| 16:52.36 | MentalPower | the original use is "for i=1, GetNumMacroIcons() do ... = GetMacroIconInfo(i) --[[something with ...]] end" |
| 16:54.01 | foxlit | So nobody thought you'd ever want to get a specific macro's icon? |
| 16:54.10 | MentalPower | so it made sense for blizz to do the initing, once |
| 16:54.35 | MentalPower | not blizz, no |
| 16:54.52 | leethal | hmm, how does one add a value to a table without giving it a key? {"a", "b", "c"} + "lol" => {"a", "b", "c", "lol"}, so to speak |
| 16:54.53 | MentalPower | actually they did |
| 16:55.03 | MentalPower | leethal: table.insert |
| 16:55.27 | leethal | ah, that was obvious, thanks |
| 16:55.34 | MentalPower | foxlit: they did think of that possibility, but since they would ask for a specific icon's info after they had asked for all the icons it made no diff |
| 16:55.51 | foxlit | Why would you ask for the number of all icons first? |
| 16:55.56 | MentalPower | !api table.insert |
| 16:56.16 | foxlit | tinsert(t, [index,] value) |
| 16:56.18 | MentalPower | foxlit: the for loop I mentioned earlier |
| 16:56.22 | dylanm | Or t[#t+1] = blarrrgh |
| 16:56.34 | foxlit | MP: why would that run before displaying a list of all macros? |
| 16:56.49 | MentalPower | dylanm: that only works if you're appending, but in this case it matters not |
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| 16:57.40 | MentalPower | in blizz interface or yours? |
| 16:57.52 | foxlit | Whever the heck you pulled that line from |
| 16:57.58 | MentalPower | s/blizz/blizz's/ |
| 17:01.15 | MentalPower | foxlit: that happens in MacroPopupFrame_Update() which is called MacroPopupFrame_OnShow() |
| 17:01.31 | foxlit | And MacroPopupFrame is the list of icons |
| 17:01.33 | foxlit | So duh |
| 17:01.45 | foxlit | But it's not shown before you actually go into the list of icons |
| 17:01.57 | foxlit | so to display the list of macros, you have to initialize the list of icons? |
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| 17:02.45 | MentalPower | no |
| 17:02.57 | MentalPower | GetMacroInfo() |
| 17:03.42 | MentalPower | that stores the info for the already created macros |
| 17:03.50 | MentalPower | including the texture |
| 17:03.58 | foxlit | GetMacroInfo(id or "name") - Returns "name", iconTextureID, "body", isLocal. |
| 17:04.03 | foxlit | And wiki wins the day |
| 17:04.43 | Kaso | i think my microwave oven's magnatron must be leaking, whenever anyone uses it wifi drops for nearly the whole house |
| 17:05.05 | foxlit | My objection was to that, mainly, but apparently the global API list hasn't been updated to show that it returns a path rather than an ID |
| 17:05.14 | foxlit | which negates the whole thing |
| 17:05.24 | MentalPower | I was about to test that |
| 17:05.31 | MentalPower | because the code says otherwise |
| 17:06.16 | MentalPower | in that theres a codepath with no a direct call from GetMacroInfo() to :SetTexture() |
| 17:06.30 | MentalPower | in that theres a codepath with a direct call from GetMacroInfo() to :SetTexture() |
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| 17:07.01 | MentalPower | in MacroFrame_Update() |
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| 17:09.45 | Polarina | Who's with me signing a petition to Blizzard to not to nerf the combat log? |
| 17:10.03 | MentalPower | neft it? |
| 17:10.05 | MentalPower | how? |
| 17:10.55 | Polarina | MentalPower: Making it impossible to monitor Netherstorm activity from Zangarmash. |
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| 17:11.13 | Drundia | in my opinion they should really let us view combat log from whole world |
| 17:11.26 | MentalPower | why do you want to monitor stuff from the next zone over? |
| 17:11.32 | Lukian | Polarina, you shouldn't be able to do that in the first place :p |
| 17:11.37 | Polarina | MentalPower: I'm already on it. :) |
| 17:11.48 | Lukian | they accidently(?) broke some of the range limitations is my guess :D |
| 17:11.55 | Polarina | Lukian: It's still a nerf from my point of view. |
| 17:11.56 | Drundia | it's strange really |
| 17:12.07 | Drundia | combat log is generated client-side isn't it? |
| 17:12.16 | MentalPower | Polarina: thats not a nerf, its two friggin zones over! |
| 17:12.26 | Polarina | Drundia: The server decides what to tell the client. |
| 17:12.33 | Drundia | well yeah |
| 17:12.40 | zenzelezz | you have some peculiar ideas Polarina |
| 17:12.48 | Drundia | apparently server for some reasons sends combat activity from faraway areas |
| 17:12.53 | End | I'm going to have to agree with zenzelezz here |
| 17:13.01 | Drundia | but since combat log has unlimited range now you can see it |
| 17:13.11 | Drundia | pre-2.4 there was just combat log range limit |
| 17:13.24 | Drundia | client likely received those weird events anyway |
| 17:13.41 | Drundia | i like 2.4 really. so many bugs are discovered now |
| 17:13.53 | Drundia | they were in game for 3 years but no one noticed them |
| 17:14.08 | MentalPower | cause no one had access to them |
| 17:14.14 | Polarina | Drundia: There was a limit on how far you could set the CVar to. |
| 17:14.31 | Drundia | yes |
| 17:14.33 | Drundia | there was |
| 17:14.36 | Drundia | now there isn't |
| 17:14.57 | Drundia | there isn't working cvar dealing with it at all |
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| 17:15.26 | wereHamster | 'combat log has unlimited range now' - is that true? no limit at all? |
| 17:15.45 | Seerah | it's whatever you can see |
| 17:15.49 | Seerah | or in the zone, I forget |
| 17:15.58 | Polarina | wereHamster: Plus some cross-zone activity far away. |
| 17:15.59 | wereHamster | see as in 'viewing distance'? |
| 17:16.34 | Seerah | not sure... that depends on video settings |
| 17:16.35 | Polarina | wereHamster: As far as the client knows about players and NPCs. |
| 17:16.37 | Drundia | apparently everything known to your client |
| 17:16.47 | Seerah | but, iirc, it's anything in your instance, also........ |
| 17:16.56 | Drundia | no, not everything |
| 17:17.22 | Drundia | there is longer vision range in instances, but it's not infinite |
| 17:18.10 | foxlit | I think visibility range is a property of objects |
| 17:18.19 | foxlit | not your character/client |
| 17:18.28 | foxlit | (there were a few issues in SSC regarding this) |
| 17:21.51 | Drundia | everything you are in combat with is visible |
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| 17:23.34 | Polarina | How do I get item's current / maximum durability from the mailbox and the trade window? |
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| 17:29.00 | kergoth | hmm, i wonder what the average % the cheeky's spreadsheet dps drops when moved to reality, due to time between mobs and all |
| 17:34.16 | athos | In an addon made with the addon studio... I want a button to target something when i click it... where do i find the script for that? |
| 17:38.11 | MentalPower | athos: that requires secure frames, it also requires you to set the target before combat starts |
| 17:39.54 | athos | k. I'm attempting is an addon version of the /target command so ucan have it on screen and type a name or partial name in a box, and then click the button |
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| 17:49.44 | Seerah | Athos: I realize I'm 10 minutes late on this, but how is that faster than just targeting or typing /t <name> ? |
| 17:50.29 | zenzelezz | probably in that you can press it several times without doing alt+up or similar; although you could just macro that |
| 17:50.42 | athos | well. I can input an name, and spam the button. |
| 17:51.17 | athos | yea, but if i made a macro and wanted to change it often, thats why i wanted an addon with a little text box to act the same way |
| 17:51.21 | Seerah | I guess I don't get it :) |
| 17:51.45 | Seerah | but that's okay |
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| 18:01.54 | Lopeppeppy | What is the script for hovering your mouse over a frame to find out what it is? Grrrr at misplaced items on my UI.... |
| 18:03.08 | zenzelezz | /script message(GetMouseFocus():GetName()) |
| 18:03.13 | zenzelezz | or /dtframestack |
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| 18:05.12 | Lopeppeppy | Thank you dear. I shall now murder what I think is a misplaced Hourglass. |
| 18:09.33 | Lopeppeppy | yup... misplaced weird buggy hourglass is not showing where I have the anchor placed. |
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| 18:29.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh boy |
| 18:29.47 | ScytheBlade1 | The Penny Arcade contest is on the WoW home page |
| 18:30.01 | ScytheBlade1 | I feel bad for Gabe's inbox |
| 18:34.11 | zenzelezz | how so, peppy? |
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| 18:37.33 | MentalPower | ScytheBlade1: hunter traps (and maybe shaman totems) seem to bear another kind of ID in their GUID, 1 |
| 18:38.14 | MentalPower | so that makes 0 = player, 1 = hunter traps, 2 = unkown, 3 = NPC, 4 = Pets |
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| 18:45.33 | Lopeppeppy | The light fell off the ceiling in my bedroom and she was the one who noticed it... my kitty is like World's Best Pet. |
| 18:46.17 | zenzelezz | the kind of light that would set fire to stuff? |
| 18:47.52 | Lopeppeppy | With the wires all dangling and exposed... yeah, I called the complex emergency service. He's here now fixing it. |
| 18:48.34 | End | your kitty is fixing it? or the emergency service? |
| 18:49.18 | zenzelezz | her kitty is not a he, IIRC |
| 18:49.49 | foxlit | I wonder why the gold spam is back |
| 18:50.00 | Lopeppeppy | Nope, Kendra Sue is a girl-cat. The Emergency Guy is fixing it, all praise to The Guys of my complex. |
| 18:50.02 | kd3 | ahahaha... all hail digg http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/7016/hahaohmandb1.png |
| 18:50.04 | zenzelezz | what do you mean "back"? |
| 18:50.21 | foxlit | Usual five-liners in trade |
| 18:50.53 | foxlit | "buy our goldz!" "easy delivery!" "get 10% more" "crystallized goblin ears for free when you order" |
| 18:51.09 | kd3 | ooh, crystallized goblin ears |
| 18:51.15 | zenzelezz | foxlit: was never gone on my realm, only the whispers were |
| 18:51.16 | foxlit | Oh, and pictures of trucks |
| 18:51.27 | zenzelezz | kd3: what about that picture? I don't seem to get it |
| 18:52.16 | kd3 | think shock pictures |
| 18:53.01 | zenzelezz | still don't get it :-| I'm slow |
| 18:53.37 | foxlit | Link! |
| 18:54.00 | foxlit | O'reily's smile, though |
| 18:54.03 | foxlit | awesome. |
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| 19:00.11 | Shadowed | AlexanderYoshi: ? |
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| 19:04.15 | Cide | ~seen shirik |
| 19:04.19 | purl | shirik <i=shirik@65.213.133.227> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 2d 10h 51m 12s ago, saying: 'paiece'. |
| 19:05.44 | Cairenn | can't wait to find out how he did at the competition |
| 19:05.56 | Lopeppeppy | Me either. *fingers still crossed* |
| 19:05.58 | foxlit | "... banks will not be responsible for losses on online bank accounts if consumers do not have up to date anti-virus, anti-spyware, and firewall software installed on their machines" |
| 19:08.01 | Cide | even if the account loss was not related to such things? that's interesting |
| 19:08.59 | zenzelezz | basically, if something happens to your online account, install up-to-date firewall, anti-virus and anti-spyware before telling them |
| 19:09.12 | Cide | or just say 'yes' |
| 19:09.34 | foxlit | It's lunacy, though |
| 19:10.30 | foxlit | Wonder what classifies as anti-spyware. |
| 19:15.17 | ScytheBlade1 | That'd be tricky for me to work with. "Uh, I can't install Norton on my machine. Something about binary incompatability, and it not being listed as a supported operating system." |
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| 19:22.11 | Shadowed | ~seen AlexanderYoshi |
| 19:22.13 | purl | alexanderyoshi is currently on #wowuidev (1d 16h 45m 26s). Has said a total of 301 messages. Is idling for 3h 12m 38s, last said: 'thank you'. |
| 19:24.34 | ScytheBlade1 | MentalPower: noted, ty |
| 19:24.54 | MentalPower | I don't have a shammy to test totems tho |
| 19:25.43 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got a text doc with a bunch of stuff in it. Just need to make it acceptable for general distribution :) |
| 19:27.52 | MentalPower | Cide: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/85225 |
| 19:31.40 | athos | ok, i tried makin a simple editbox addon with a close button. But i cant type in the edit box...why? |
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| 19:33.11 | athos | how do i set a font attribute for the editbox? |
| 19:34.23 | athos | might have just answered my own question...nm |
| 19:38.40 | athos | I added <FontString inherits="GameFontNormal"/> to my edit box...but i still cant type in it |
| 19:39.41 | Cairenn | Cidan: ping/ |
| 19:39.42 | Cairenn | ? |
| 19:41.21 | Cairenn|afk | nm, have to go out |
| 19:41.41 | End | `hmm |
| 19:41.47 | End | I should probably eat something |
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| 19:54.50 | athos | any idea how to enable the text to show in the editbox script? |
| 19:56.12 | lagger` | use InputBoxTemplate |
| 19:56.14 | lagger` | then u can just use |
| 19:56.16 | lagger` | settext and gettext |
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| 19:57.34 | lagger` | actually u should be able to anyways |
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| 20:03.45 | athos | where would i use settext and gettext... mind u, this is my first day and my first addon.. |
| 20:04.28 | athos | is this a viable command? TargetUnit(EDB:GetText()) if EDB is the name of my editbox? |
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| 20:04.48 | athos | oops... just the (EDB:GetText()) |
| 20:05.21 | Yssaril | athos, get/settext are used if you want to get the text of a fonstring |
| 20:05.25 | Yssaril | *fontstring |
| 20:06.15 | MentalPower | athos: TargetUnit is off-limits |
| 20:06.30 | athos | oh |
| 20:09.22 | athos | I have the InputBoxTemplate in the xml, but i still cannot type in the box in game...its just a blinking cursor |
| 20:30.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Whee, firewall reconfigured |
| 20:30.23 | ScytheBlade1 | No more stray ports on stray IPs! |
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| 20:32.59 | Lopeppeppy | What about stray ports on domesticated IPs? |
| 20:33.47 | ScytheBlade1 | I'll get back to you when I get one of those |
| 20:33.47 | zenzelezz | wow, gold spam with raid target icons |
| 20:35.30 | Lopeppeppy | Sweet. |
| 20:45.38 | Drundia | zenzeless, saw it first time? |
| 20:45.52 | Drundia | they are already there for several days |
| 20:51.40 | zenzelezz | I thought it was obvious that I hadn't seen it before |
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| 20:52.17 | zenzelezz | and I don't hang around the crowded areas much, so I don't see most of the spam |
| 20:52.54 | Polarina | Anyone knows if the return value of GetFramerate() is based on the time it took to render the last frame or an average of something? |
| 20:55.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Average of the last second or so |
| 20:56.01 | Polarina | Then I'd better use WorldFrame's OnUpdate delta value. :) |
| 20:57.14 | sag_ich_nicht | http://wowwebstats.com/tj2knubf5wxxm what a misserable wipefest |
| 20:57.14 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 20:59.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Ouch, four runs at Azgalor? |
| 20:59.44 | MentalPower | Polarina: why are you going to hijack the WorldFrame's OnUpdate? |
| 21:00.04 | zenzelezz | what happened at Azgalor, MT death? |
| 21:00.34 | Polarina | MentalPower: Messing around (personal stuff). |
| 21:00.57 | sag_ich_nicht | zenzelezz: yupp |
| 21:01.08 | zenzelezz | sag_ich_nicht: ouch; few HoTers? |
| 21:02.02 | zenzelezz | what always amuses me is how many people think of FPS count as something that should be static and/or speak about getting more frames per second than their monitor can actually perform |
| 21:02.07 | MentalPower | ah, k cause your own frame is not that hard "local frame = CreateFrame("Frame") frame:Show() frame:SetScript("OnUpdate", someFunction)" |
| 21:02.17 | sag_ich_nicht | zenzelezz: check the heals report |
| 21:03.31 | sag_ich_nicht | MT died from the fire BECAUSE THE FUCKING FIRE GRAPHIC IS BUGGY AND NOBODY BELIEVES ME |
| 21:03.33 | sag_ich_nicht | honestly |
| 21:03.54 | zenzelezz | heh |
| 21:03.55 | sag_ich_nicht | the damn animation MAX range does NOT equal the actual damage/debuff maxrange, which is bigger |
| 21:03.59 | Polarina | sag_ich_nicht: I believe you. :) |
| 21:04.32 | zenzelezz | sag_ich_nicht: still, what did that matter? Did they healers choose to relax when he was "not" in the fire? |
| 21:04.59 | sag_ich_nicht | i dunno |
| 21:05.03 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm not a healer :P |
| 21:05.14 | zenzelezz | me neither :-) |
| 21:05.35 | zenzelezz | I've never looked at a healing report on WWS except to see how much healing I took throughout a run |
| 21:06.26 | Lopeppeppy | I do not heal by graphics on the ground, I heal via health bars and intelligence.... *gentle shrug* |
| 21:06.52 | Lopeppeppy | I don't think that the graphics have to do with why he's not getting heals, whether or not the graphic displays, his health bar goes down due to whatever damage he takes. |
| 21:06.54 | Polarina | sag_ich_nicht: My rule #1: Don't play with people that don't know the difference between cat and mouse. |
| 21:07.16 | AlexanderYoshi | My rule #1: Don't stand in the fire. |
| 21:07.26 | zenzelezz | I'm constantly shouting out in advance of the infernal waves on Azgalor trash, telling healers to get ready to get to the back, and I still die 1/3 times |
| 21:07.34 | Lopeppeppy | TBC is all about various forms of "do not stand in the poo" |
| 21:07.53 | zenzelezz | Naxxramas introduced that |
| 21:08.06 | MentalPower | no, that was there in MC |
| 21:08.15 | MentalPower | fiery poo in MC's second boss |
| 21:08.19 | zenzelezz | not necessarily to the same degree |
| 21:08.23 | Lopeppeppy | Not quite to the same hideous degree that TBC has "do not stand in the poo" |
| 21:09.04 | zenzelezz | I still remember the video tutorial for Faerlina... a d0rf standing still, then the text "rain of fire? RUN" and he started running. 15-20 second video :-p |
| 21:10.02 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 21:10.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Nice |
| 21:10.49 | MentalPower | ScytheBlade1: camp fires are also tagged as class 1 objects (same as traps) |
| 21:11.54 | ScytheBlade1 | That's.. unique |
| 21:12.02 | zenzelezz | MentalPower: what about braziers? |
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| 21:12.13 | zenzelezz | (do they even get GUIDs?) |
| 21:12.26 | Kirov | Do what get guids |
| 21:12.30 | MentalPower | tell you when I get to IF |
| 21:12.51 | MentalPower | braziers when they do damage to you |
| 21:13.04 | MentalPower | I know gatherables (herbs) don't |
| 21:13.14 | Kirov | I'm assuming that's "enviroment" damage type |
| 21:13.19 | MentalPower | or at least they don't show up on the combat log |
| 21:13.20 | zenzelezz | probably |
| 21:13.21 | Kirov | ie: guid-less |
| 21:13.37 | wereHamster | anyone watched SNL this saturday? the laser cats.. rofl |
| 21:14.26 | Kirov | nope, no guid |
| 21:14.33 | wereHamster | they even had a real cat :) |
| 21:14.46 | MentalPower | Kirov: you have a shammy? |
| 21:14.51 | Kirov | source guid is all zeros, "ENVIROMENTAL_DAMAGE" |
| 21:14.56 | Kirov | ... yes |
| 21:15.08 | MentalPower | GUID of totems PLS |
| 21:15.46 | Kirov | well, I myself do not have a shammy, my girlfriend does. |
| 21:15.52 | Kirov | and she's in bg |
| 21:16.11 | Kirov | (ie: not friendly to the "hey, can I steal your computer for a sec" idea) |
| 21:16.18 | MentalPower | lol |
| 21:16.33 | Kirov | let me see if anyone is fighting in front of if |
| 21:16.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Kirov: have her type /combatlog |
| 21:16.54 | Kirov | the guids are saved to the log? |
| 21:16.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 21:17.14 | Kirov | what, is it just a straight dump of COMBAT_LOG_EVENT? |
| 21:17.16 | zenzelezz | wowcombatlog.txt stores just about everything |
| 21:17.18 | zenzelezz | yes |
| 21:17.25 | zenzelezz | timestamp, message, parameters |
| 21:18.03 | ScytheBlade1 | 1) Take all of the everything from COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED. 2) Write it to a file, comma-seperated. |
| 21:18.11 | ScytheBlade1 | That's what /combatlog does now :) |
| 21:18.19 | MentalPower | 3)... 4) Profit! |
| 21:18.31 | ScytheBlade1 | I debated adding that, but thought otherwise |
| 21:18.36 | MentalPower | :P |
| 21:18.41 | zenzelezz | you fail MentalPower |
| 21:18.44 | zenzelezz | it's ???, not ... |
| 21:18.48 | ScytheBlade1 | That too |
| 21:18.50 | Polarina | "0xF530001CEB0436A4", -- [6] |
| 21:18.50 | Polarina | "Strength of Earth Totem IV", -- [7] |
| 21:18.53 | MentalPower | meh |
| 21:18.55 | Polarina | Here's a totem. |
| 21:19.08 | MentalPower | thats odd... |
| 21:19.17 | MentalPower | its type 3, like pets |
| 21:19.32 | Kirov | why is that odd? |
| 21:19.37 | MentalPower | err... not pets |
| 21:19.39 | MentalPower | NPCs |
| 21:19.47 | MentalPower | Kirov: cause hunter traps are type 1 |
| 21:20.13 | zenzelezz | aren't totems "guardians"? Any idea what type other guardians are? |
| 21:20.45 | Kirov | <- mage w/o water elemental |
| 21:20.48 | MentalPower | 0 = Player, 1 = Hunter traps & Camp Fire, 2 = ???, 3 = Regular NPCs, 4 = Pets & Totems |
| 21:20.58 | Kirov | wait, camp fire? |
| 21:21.03 | Kirov | oh, you mean the spawned camp fire |
| 21:21.09 | MentalPower | yeah |
| 21:21.17 | MentalPower | the one that gives a buff |
| 21:21.27 | Kirov | yeah |
| 21:21.37 | Polarina | What is type 2 for? Anyone knows its prefix yet or? |
| 21:22.01 | MentalPower | Polarina: I'll tell you when I see one |
| 21:22.02 | Kirov | 0xF130003C4F000FAC,"Fire Elemental Totem" |
| 21:22.30 | Polarina | "0xF1300046D20292ED", -- [6] "Marshfang Ripper", -- [7] |
| 21:22.52 | MentalPower | lua> ("0xF130003C4F000FAC"):sub(5,5) |
| 21:22.54 | Polarina | MentalPower: How do you know you saw one? |
| 21:23.08 | MentalPower | !lua ("0xF130003C4F000FAC"):sub(5,5) |
| 21:23.08 | batbot | MentalPower: > 3 |
| 21:23.16 | Polarina | Ah... |
| 21:23.31 | Polarina | But that F1? |
| 21:24.03 | zenzelezz | didn't they say you'd be able to tell what type of creature (beast, humanoid, ...) something was from a GUID? |
| 21:24.23 | MentalPower | Polarina, zenzelezz: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968233433&sid=1&pageNo=28#547 |
| 21:24.48 | zenzelezz | MentalPower: that doesn't say anything about what I asked |
| 21:24.55 | zenzelezz | and I've been reading the thread |
| 21:25.17 | MentalPower | slouken said what you asked at the beginning |
| 21:25.24 | Polarina | Ok. |
| 21:26.11 | MentalPower | zenzelezz: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968233433&sid=1&pageNo=2#22 |
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| 21:27.07 | zenzelezz | MentalPower: yes, I was looking for something more concrete - was under the impression they wouldn't be so "go find it yourself" :) |
| 21:27.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Nope. The most concrete thing they've given us is post #547. |
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| 21:28.25 | zenzelezz | all right, cheers |
| 21:29.41 | MentalPower | corgan figured out the conversion from guid to NPCId "tonumber(guid:sub(6, 12), 16)" but that only works if the type is 3 |
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| 21:30.22 | zenzelezz | MentalPower: cheers :) |
| 21:32.13 | MentalPower | zenzelezz: BTW, Blizzard has always been "go find out yourself" |
| 21:32.21 | MentalPower | nad if you break it you get to keep both pieces |
| 21:32.30 | MentalPower | and if you break it you get to keep both pieces |
| 21:34.29 | zenzelezz | MentalPower: I've usually found my info on the wiki, the new combat log was the first think I was particularly interested in learning about (so yeah, I'm noob) |
| 21:35.01 | MentalPower | the wiki is made by us (the community), so that falls under "go find out yourself" |
| 21:35.47 | MentalPower | other than the upcoming changes threads, blizz has not given us much in terms of API documentation |
| 21:36.36 | zenzelezz | MentalPower: I know; what I meant is I've never read the "changes" threads before so I misread the blue posts |
| 21:39.27 | MentalPower | !lua unpack{4,5,1,2,4, f=1,g=5,m=10,43,42} |
| 21:39.27 | batbot | MentalPower: > 4, 5, 1, 2, 4, 43, 42 |
| 21:40.02 | AlexanderYoshi | sweet |
| 21:40.53 | Tuller | hrm...if I make the stance menu for bongos able to be extended with a little bit of lua, will people do anything with it |
| 21:41.17 | MentalPower | Tuller: maybe |
| 21:41.45 | MentalPower | DogTags is used, AucAdvanced modules are starting to be used |
| 21:41.48 | MentalPower | ymmv |
| 21:42.46 | Duman | hmm, I sitll need to convert to Bongos3 |
| 21:43.05 | schnoggo | I have a bonogs related thing... |
| 21:43.37 | Tuller | no need to convert until its doneish :P |
| 21:43.45 | Duman | well, i was gonna help beta test :) |
| 21:43.48 | Duman | I mean, if you want |
| 21:44.08 | schnoggo | Back in the Discord world, I had created a frame that sat over my combat log. Whenever I rolled over it, it would unhide a couple action bars that were sized to sit within that frame. |
| 21:44.12 | Duman | any particular aspects of it needing more work than others, before you consider it "produciton" ? |
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| 21:44.38 | Tuller | Duman: the GUI :P |
| 21:44.43 | Duman | tuller: ahh ;) |
| 21:45.04 | schnoggo | Bongos now has the show/hide thing on rollover, but i'm wondering about tying that to another frame |
| 21:45.55 | schnoggo | would it be best to release a little "bongos helper" addon for roll targets, or would it make sense for that to be in the built-in stuff? |
| 21:45.56 | zenzelezz | Rage Winterchill trash: 2xHammer of Judgement, 1xPepe's Shroud of Pacification, 1xClaw of Molten Fury, 2xTailoring patterns |
| 21:46.00 | AlexanderYoshi | wow |
| 21:46.03 | AlexanderYoshi | grats2u |
| 21:46.08 | ScytheBlade1 | That's... a lot of loot |
| 21:46.35 | schnoggo | with the new "drag to create a frame" I think you've got most of the UI elements needed, but would it just make things complicated? |
| 21:46.36 | Whuggy | Hey guys. I've got a question; Is it possible to make an addon to show IRC ingame? |
| 21:46.40 | schnoggo | no |
| 21:46.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Whuggy: no |
| 21:46.42 | Duman | whuggy: nope |
| 21:46.48 | Whuggy | ah ok.. Thanks :) |
| 21:46.54 | Kirov | yes! |
| 21:47.08 | Whuggy | Would be rather cool though |
| 21:47.14 | Kirov | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:47.22 | Kirov | it'll show in-game! |
| 21:47.22 | Duman | heh |
| 21:47.23 | ScytheBlade1 | I keep on saying that we need LuaSocket built into WoW. |
| 21:47.33 | Tuller | schnoggo: I'm not really clear on what you're asking. You want to do autofading for things that bongos does not include? |
| 21:47.36 | ScytheBlade1 | People, for whatever reason, look at me funny when I suggest it. :/ |
| 21:47.37 | Duman | scythe: lots of danger in that |
| 21:47.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Duman: I know ;) |
| 21:47.53 | Gnarfoz | zenzelezz: heh, we have runs like that every other week. the "other" week in between sucks. almost no loot at all. :\ |
| 21:47.58 | Duman | used to be able to play music streams :) |
| 21:48.06 | Duman | which I really miss |
| 21:48.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Duman: "if you're going to break the sandbox, might as well do it all at once in a grand manner" ;) |
| 21:48.20 | schnoggo | Tuller: autofading of bongos action bars, but based on rolling over an non-action bar container frame. |
| 21:48.20 | Duman | haha |
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| 21:48.23 | ScytheBlade1 | But yeah. wtb LuaSocket in WoW. |
| 21:48.47 | ScytheBlade1 | No more uploading saved vars. No more DKP export/import addons. |
| 21:48.50 | Tuller | schnoggo: I think you may want to look into eepanels or something? |
| 21:48.51 | Duman | hmm, I need to pester Zeksie |
| 21:48.55 | schnoggo | luaSocket = botting API :) |
| 21:49.05 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 21:49.06 | foxlit | Botting is overrated |
| 21:49.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Luckily no ;) |
| 21:49.11 | Duman | err, about the totem frame |
| 21:50.20 | MentalPower | ScytheBlade1: how does LuaSocket ~= BottingAPI? |
| 21:50.45 | ScytheBlade1 | MentalPower: Uh? How does LuaSocket == BottingAPI? |
| 21:51.03 | Duman | ... |
| 21:51.17 | MentalPower | info out of the sandbox == BottingAPI |
| 21:51.41 | Duman | eh |
| 21:51.44 | Duman | maybe |
| 21:51.56 | ScytheBlade1 | No, as (1) we get data out of the sandbox as-is via cache/saved vars/memory. (2) all movement, casting, etc. API calls are still protected. |
| 21:52.12 | Duman | if you secure all functions so that they cannot react w/ a use/cast to data received from the socket... |
| 21:52.32 | ScytheBlade1 | (Which is already the case! @Duman) |
| 21:52.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Adding LuaSocket wouldn't enhance botting one bit |
| 21:52.42 | Duman | yes, I was just being explicit :) |
| 21:52.58 | Duman | it would be nice to be able to export certain types of data |
| 21:53.01 | Duman | (in real-time) |
| 21:53.15 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd love a way to manage data in an addon that would be reflected on a website. |
| 21:53.23 | Duman | "Hey, where are my friends/guild mates - let me check www.whereAreMyWoWFriends.com!" |
| 21:53.24 | Duman | (lol) |
| 21:53.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Read: professions, DKP |
| 21:53.50 | Duman | instant quest info |
| 21:53.54 | Duman | (from wowhead/etc) |
| 21:53.58 | Gnarfoz | bots use real-time memory access anyway, so what :\ |
| 21:54.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Ding ding ding |
| 21:54.10 | Duman | gatherer/cartographer would be ridiculously powerful then |
| 21:54.20 | Polarina | I wonder if it's possible to tell faction/race/class out from player GUIDs... |
| 21:54.56 | Duman | damn, the new In Flames album is awesome |
| 21:59.46 | foxlit | "buy our goldz now - use our complimentary addon and get 25% more!" |
| 22:00.16 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 22:00.27 | ScytheBlade1 | I won't deny that it would be a data mining spree |
| 22:00.31 | ScytheBlade1 | But it'd still be fun :( |
| 22:00.58 | ScytheBlade1 | (And if nothing else, it gives some people here nightmares. ;D) |
| 22:02.38 | schnoggo | not to have the Warden come down and ruin perfectly reasonable use.... |
| 22:03.39 | schnoggo | but if I had lua sockets, I'm pretty sure I could dump enough data to a comp to VNC control a toon for botting purposes |
| 22:04.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Can't dump range, or targets on screen. |
| 22:04.32 | schnoggo | tab - test target - fire! |
| 22:04.49 | schnoggo | mining nodes are fixed coords |
| 22:05.02 | MentalPower | but you can't tab target a node |
| 22:05.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Along the same lines, you could just install a bot. :) |
| 22:05.10 | MentalPower | you can't target a node period |
| 22:05.46 | schnoggo | I'll assume the Warden is dealing with bots |
| 22:06.08 | schnoggo | but you can certainly understand the desire to keep the sandbox clean |
| 22:07.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, of course. Again, I say that largely as a joke. |
| 22:07.37 | Guillotine | Also, think about the problems with cross-faction communication. You just know somebody would make an addon that (likely via an IRC channel) let people talk cross-faction |
| 22:07.37 | ScytheBlade1 | But that doesn't make the idea any less awesome ;) |
| 22:07.42 | Guillotine | and Blizzard has done a lot to prevent that |
| 22:10.02 | Duman | I'm sure Blizzard would love to open up something like this... it's just the problems would outweigh the benefits by too much |
| 22:10.09 | Duman | there are lots of cool aspects to it |
| 22:10.32 | Duman | but lots of not-so-cool ones (or at least, ones Blizzard is continually trying to prevent), too |
| 22:11.22 | Guillotine | iirc, we could actually do that at sometime during beta |
| 22:11.35 | Guillotine | they didn't include lua socket, but there was some way to run it |
| 22:12.56 | Zeksie | Duman: I will get on to it. quite busy with ZOMGBuffs and Grim Reaper, and a new section in XPerl, and raiding, and farming Shattered Sun rep! |
| 22:12.58 | Zeksie | :) |
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| 22:16.07 | Duman | zeksie: no worries :) |
| 22:16.13 | Duman | I've been using enhancer for now |
| 22:22.19 | Tem | evnetually I'm going to remember to remove the beta version of high roller |
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| 22:37.29 | [Liquidor] | Show me the love and kiss this gnome. She wants you ! :) http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/1739/wowanimsmx8.jpg |
| 22:38.30 | zenzelezz | she looks drugged |
| 22:38.39 | Kirov | roofie |
| 22:38.39 | MentalPower | [Liquidor]: spammer! |
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| 22:49.30 | Lopeppeppy | I think she's singing Christmas carols. |
| 22:49.40 | Lopeppeppy | She looks cold. |
| 22:50.14 | zenzelezz | the eyes, look at the eyes |
| 22:53.05 | Lopeppeppy | She's crying, she's very moved by the lyrics and the spirit of the season. |
| 22:53.15 | Lopeppeppy | Either that or she's massively allergic to reindeer. |
| 22:53.16 | Corrodias | nah, that's drainage. they're infected. |
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| 23:14.38 | Duman | lol |
| 23:22.32 | AlexanderYoshi | I am so confused right now |
| 23:22.34 | AlexanderYoshi | somehow |
| 23:22.46 | AlexanderYoshi | adding a ChatFrame1:AddMessage() call to my function |
| 23:22.49 | AlexanderYoshi | causes it to work |
| 23:22.54 | AlexanderYoshi | while removing it |
| 23:22.59 | AlexanderYoshi | causes it to stop working |
| 23:23.02 | Iriel | what does your function do? |
| 23:23.08 | haste | placebo effect! |
| 23:23.13 | JoshBorke | that just sounds wrong :-P |
| 23:23.40 | JoshBorke | pastey your code and we'll tell you where you mesesd up ;-P |
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| 23:24.19 | AlexanderYoshi | I think this thing is complex enough |
| 23:24.19 | haste | I still think it's placebo |
| 23:24.19 | AlexanderYoshi | that i need to post the full adodn |
| 23:24.19 | AlexanderYoshi | addon |
| 23:24.35 | AlexanderYoshi | aww man |
| 23:24.42 | AlexanderYoshi | I don't have a public FTP anymore to post to |
| 23:24.58 | haste | pastey it :p ? |
| 23:25.08 | haste | unless you have some insane file structure from the moon |
| 23:25.19 | AlexanderYoshi | its enormous |
| 23:25.22 | AlexanderYoshi | but |
| 23:25.24 | AlexanderYoshi | I guess I could |
| 23:26.17 | MentalPower | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:26.56 | Guillotine | Is it possible to set a LoD addon as a dependency? |
| 23:26.56 | JoshBorke | pastey so we don't have to unzip :-P |
| 23:26.57 | haste | MentalPower: did you take a look at the unicode madness on pastey's textarea? |
| 23:27.01 | JoshBorke | Guillotine: yes |
| 23:27.16 | Guillotine | Josh: thanks :) |
| 23:27.16 | MentalPower | haste: I told Norgs about it |
| 23:27.37 | JoshBorke | Guillotine: no reason you wouldn't be able to anyway :-D |
| 23:27.41 | AlexanderYoshi | http://www.pastey.net/85232 |
| 23:27.41 | AlexanderYoshi | look for the Sea.io.print |
| 23:27.48 | AlexanderYoshi | http://up.norganna.org/index.php/l2BObOy/RaidAwardsPrototype.zip |
| 23:27.53 | AlexanderYoshi | is the addon |
| 23:27.55 | JoshBorke | whoa, see? psh |
| 23:27.58 | JoshBorke | screw that :-P |
| 23:27.59 | haste | MentalPower: shouldn't be too much of an issue as he half-fixed it last time I complained :p |
| 23:28.00 | JoshBorke | sea rather |
| 23:28.11 | AlexanderYoshi | I wrote sea |
| 23:28.15 | MentalPower | lol |
| 23:28.16 | Guillotine | JoshBorke: well, usually setting it as a dependency means it must load first. But LoD addons haven't been loaded |
| 23:28.17 | MentalPower | yeah |
| 23:28.18 | JoshBorke | can you give us a line? |
| 23:28.18 | AlexanderYoshi | Sea.io.print is just a chat frame print. |
| 23:28.22 | MentalPower | Alex wrote sea |
| 23:28.23 | Guillotine | I found a better way to do it though |
| 23:28.33 | MentalPower | before getting his current job :) |
| 23:28.33 | Cide | SEA IS A CONSPIRACY, DESIGNED TO KEY YOUR LOGS |
| 23:28.39 | Cide | OR LOG YOUR KEYS? EITHER WAY |
| 23:28.41 | AlexanderYoshi | 262 |
| 23:28.43 | JoshBorke | well, we all have our faults |
| 23:29.04 | AlexanderYoshi | 264 and 265 |
| 23:29.09 | AlexanderYoshi | Josh |
| 23:29.24 | Iriel | Stop with the select( 1, ... ) already! |
| 23:29.28 | Kirov | Key my logs?! dude, not cool. I just had them painted too |
| 23:29.31 | AlexanderYoshi | I outdate wow ace by years |
| 23:29.42 | AlexanderYoshi | Sea was the first wow lib |
| 23:29.45 | MentalPower | yup |
| 23:29.46 | AlexanderYoshi | so there |
| 23:29.54 | Kirov | AlexanderYoshi - you're saying you're outdated? |
| 23:29.57 | MentalPower | Sea was there when I started |
| 23:29.58 | AlexanderYoshi | I am! |
| 23:30.02 | MentalPower | back in 2005 |
| 23:30.25 | AlexanderYoshi | but I love how typing sea.io.print lets me do prints without doing tostring() on my args |
| 23:31.28 | JoshBorke | AlexanderYoshi: like i said, we all hove our faults :-P |
| 23:31.38 | AlexanderYoshi | uh huh |
| 23:31.48 | JoshBorke | my fault is being an ass :-D |
| 23:32.13 | JoshBorke | this mod is cute |
| 23:32.41 | AlexanderYoshi | you'd be amazed at the amount of play you get with cute |
| 23:33.10 | JoshBorke | ok, so, without the Sea.io.print you get no output but with the prints you get the expected output? |
| 23:34.00 | AlexanderYoshi | without the Sea.io.print |
| 23:34.10 | AlexanderYoshi | i dont get the Says 100% of the time |
| 23:34.16 | AlexanderYoshi | with the Sea.io.print |
| 23:34.17 | AlexanderYoshi | I do |
| 23:34.34 | AlexanderYoshi | I'm very confused |
| 23:34.44 | AlexanderYoshi | it shouldn't matter |
| 23:35.42 | JoshBorke | hm, what if you eliminate the prints one by one? |
| 23:36.56 | AlexanderYoshi | I have not tried exhaustive testing like that. I could |
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| 23:37.38 | JoshBorke | it looks fine to me, but then again what do i know :-D |
| 23:37.40 | AlexanderYoshi | it might also be |
| 23:37.47 | AlexanderYoshi | that the prints never fire |
| 23:37.52 | AlexanderYoshi | so I dont think its working |
| 23:37.53 | AlexanderYoshi | when it is |
| 23:38.01 | AlexanderYoshi | :( |
| 23:38.02 | Cide | why do it one by one, when you can do it in n-log2 n fewer tries with a binary search? :) |
| 23:38.11 | AlexanderYoshi | lol |
| 23:38.24 | AlexanderYoshi | because I can't keep an n-log2 list in my head |
| 23:38.49 | Cide | ah, you are a mere human. |
| 23:39.16 | AlexanderYoshi | proto-human actually |
| 23:39.19 | AlexanderYoshi | but don't tell anyone |
| 23:39.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah. He's been "enhanced" by the head office. http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/05/23/ |
| 23:39.57 | Cide | oh, ok |
| 23:40.12 | kd3 | heh |
| 23:40.45 | AlexanderYoshi | hahah |
| 23:41.01 | Lopeppeppy | Big ba-da-boom |
| 23:45.14 | Cairenn | damn you Guillotine! |
| 23:45.22 | Guillotine | Cair: like the screenshot? :D |
| 23:45.29 | Guillotine | its all squares o.O |
| 23:45.55 | Cairenn | *googlyeyes* |
| 23:46.11 | kd3 | whee for optical illusions |
| 23:46.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Link? |
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| 23:46.35 | Guillotine | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=8649 |
| 23:46.44 | Guillotine | also, anybody annoyed by the re-linking bug should check it out |
| 23:46.54 | Cairenn | I'm one of those that can see those hidden pictures 3d thingies, so of course any time I see one like that, my eyes go all wonky |
| 23:47.03 | sag_ich_nicht | [Shard of Contempt] [Shard of Contempt] [Shard of Contempt] [Shard of Contempt] [Shard of Contempt] [Shard of Contempt] [Shard of Contempt] [Shard of Contempt] [Shard of Contempt] [Shard of Contempt] [Shard of Contempt] [Shard of Contempt] [Shard of Contempt] [Shard of Contempt] [Shard of Contempt] [Shard of Contempt] [Shard of Contempt] [Shard of Contempt] [Shard of Contempt] [Shard of Contempt] [Shard of Contempt] [Shard |
| 23:47.10 | zenzelezz | grats..? |
| 23:47.11 | sag_ich_nicht | \o/ |
| 23:47.14 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 23:47.17 | Cairenn | grats :) |
| 23:47.20 | ScytheBlade1 | @ image |
| 23:47.26 | sag_ich_nicht | thanks |
| 23:47.41 | sag_ich_nicht | god damn that was one DAMN long stupid instance run |
| 23:47.46 | Guillotine | Thats going to be my upload image for all addons that don't need an image from now on |
| 23:48.30 | kd3 | lmao at random bug reports... yet another raid had heigan fall through the floor of naxx |
| 23:48.34 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 23:49.52 | Cide | and into EPL? |
| 23:49.58 | Guillotine | lol |
| 23:50.04 | ScytheBlade1 | hahaha |
| 23:50.07 | ScytheBlade1 | I can only wish |
| 23:50.14 | kd3 | DDR in EPL. scary though |
| 23:53.45 | Kirov | Dance Dance Revolution? |
| 23:54.11 | Guillotine | do the zombie! |
| 23:54.11 | Lopeppeppy | I watched someone do that in an arcade... how very odd. |
| 23:54.19 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Heigan |
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