IRC log for #wowroster on 20090303

`01:27.43`	`Zanix`	`5 hours later: ahhhh!`
`01:27.52`	`Zanix`	`or maybe it was 3...`
`01:29.26`	`Hasbro`	`o.o`
`01:29.28`	`Hasbro`	`fail`
`01:29.34`	`Hasbro`	`Zanix, you're a dev right?`
`01:31.56`	`Hasbro`	`bb`
`01:31.57`	`Hasbro`	`brb`
`01:41.37`	`Hasbro`	`bac`
`01:41.38`	`Hasbro`	`k`
`01:49.17`	`Zanix`	`yep`
`01:49.36`	`Zanix`	`I....m.....b.....1`
`01:50.48`	`Hasbro`	`hrm`
`01:50.56`	`Hasbro`	`I had some ideas for WoW Roster`
`01:51.06`	`Hasbro`	`I'm a php developer as well ;)`
`01:51.15`	`Hasbro`	`Haven't visited this project since last year however`
`01:51.37`	`Hasbro`	`Zanix: http://unitedwow.com/home/signature/signature.php?r=Stormspire&n=Lunchbox&c[]=255&c[]=255&c[]=0&b=6&f=8`
`01:51.40`	`Hasbro`	`You like? :P`
`01:51.47`	`Hasbro`	`change b= from 1-11`
`01:52.19`	`Zanix`	`nifty`
`01:52.41`	`Hasbro`	`You should fetch more from the armory and less from in game ;)`
`01:52.56`	`Zanix`	`well, perhaps`
`01:53.12`	`Hasbro`	`You can fetch player's gear + skills`
`01:53.18`	`Zanix`	`we've been really short on devs for the longest time`
`01:53.25`	`Hasbro`	`I see, since when?`
`01:53.29`	`Zanix`	`I havent had any time for about 1/2 a year now`
`01:53.35`	`Hasbro`	`o.o`
`01:53.55`	`Zanix`	`I dont recall when, but the only active devs currently are myself, pleegwat, zeryl, and anaxent`
`01:54.09`	`Hasbro`	`I saw you guys needed donations, do you run your own dedi or something?`
`01:54.14`	`Hasbro`	`400 is quite a lot :o`
`01:54.16`	`Zanix`	`but I havent had any time, I have classes now and work`
`01:54.29`	`Zanix`	`we do, and we needed it for awhile now, but we dont anymore`
`01:54.37`	`Zanix`	`not for a few months at least`
`01:54.41`	`Hasbro`	`Reason being?`
`01:55.00`	`Zanix`	`not sure, it wast completely my decision`
`01:55.03`	`Zanix`	`wasnt`
`01:55.15`	`Zanix`	`but I just go with what the others sugest`
`01:56.15`	`Zanix`	`but I know we do need to swich to another host, one that doesnt cost as much`
`01:57.01`	`Zanix`	`thats seems like some nice signature code`
`01:57.48`	`Zanix`	`Im about 1/2 way into recoding siggen, but its been at a standstill since I started classes in the fall`
`01:58.40`	`Hasbro`	`hrm`
`01:58.53`	`Hasbro`	`Well, that was designed for my WoW server :D`
`01:58.57`	`Hasbro`	`Was really simply`
`01:58.59`	`Zanix`	`and at that, I've barely looked into another host`
`01:59.04`	`Hasbro`	`except, we read values out of the database`
`01:59.07`	`Hasbro`	`Zanix, are you the owner?`
`01:59.16`	`Zanix`	`more or less, im the admin`
`01:59.33`	`Hasbro`	`Should just go with Godaddy or something`
`01:59.34`	`Zanix`	`we never really set this up so that one person owns it`
`01:59.37`	`Hasbro`	`for 7 bucks a month`
`01:59.44`	`Hasbro`	`I get tons of bandwidth for my project`
`01:59.49`	`Hasbro`	`which is http://arcemu.org`
`02:00.01`	`Hasbro`	`my recommendation`
`02:00.02`	`Hasbro`	`to you`
`02:00.03`	`Hasbro`	`:)`
`02:00.16`	`Zanix`	`we have some custom code linked to our svn to handle permissions`
`02:00.24`	`Hasbro`	`oh`
`02:00.28`	`Hasbro`	`that's why you needed the dedi I guess`
`02:00.28`	`Hasbro`	`hrm`
`02:00.31`	`Zanix`	`mostly`
`02:00.33`	`Hasbro`	`Does it use cron tabs?`
`02:00.35`	`Hasbro`	`or what`
`02:00.41`	`Hasbro`	`godaddy gives you access to ssh too`
`02:00.41`	`Hasbro`	`:p`
`02:00.48`	`Zanix`	`it did at one time, we disabled it a while back for some reason`
`02:00.55`	`Hasbro`	`So, it doesn't currently/`
`02:00.56`	`Zanix`	`I think we changed something`
`02:00.57`	`Hasbro`	`?*`
`02:01.04`	`Zanix`	`or we lost something...I cant remember`
`02:01.06`	`Zanix`	`lol`
`02:01.08`	`Hasbro`	`Try harder :P`
`02:01.20`	`Hasbro`	`Who's your current host?`
`02:01.24`	`Zanix`	`we do currently run backups of the server`
`02:01.31`	`Zanix`	`http://www.layeredtech.com/`
`02:01.32`	`Hasbro`	`By the way`
`02:01.33`	`Hasbro`	`Bandwidth : 13630.93 MB of 1500000.00 MB`
`02:01.33`	`Hasbro`	`(0.91%)`
`02:01.34`	`Hasbro`	`lol`
`02:01.39`	`Hasbro`	`My site's been up for a year :P`
`02:01.41`	`Zanix`	`heh`
`02:01.47`	`Zanix`	`we use about 250gb a month`
`02:02.04`	`Hasbro`	`hrm`
`02:02.09`	`Hasbro`	`I don't think godaddy resets`
`02:02.12`	`Hasbro`	`their...`
`02:02.16`	`Hasbro`	`bandwidth usage`
`02:02.16`	`Hasbro`	`wtf`
`02:02.17`	`Zanix`	`we definatly under use our server right now`
`02:02.22`	`Hasbro`	`lol`
`02:02.24`	`Hasbro`	`why do you pay so much`
`02:02.31`	`Hasbro`	`oh`
`02:02.34`	`Hasbro`	`it was quarterly`
`02:02.37`	`Zanix`	`yeah`
`02:02.38`	`Hasbro`	`How much per month?`
`02:02.41`	`Zanix`	`about 150 a month`
`02:02.52`	`Zanix`	`147.something to be almost exact`
`02:02.52`	`Hasbro`	`server specs?`
`02:03.08`	`Zanix`	`good question, i have to look that up`
`02:03.17`	`Hasbro`	`gogo`
`02:03.33`	`Hasbro`	`I feel like my server's harddrive might fail so`
`02:03.35`	`Hasbro`	`soon*`
`02:03.39`	`Zanix`	`be ready for a wall of text`
`02:03.43`	`Zanix`	`LT-AMD-ATHLON-3200-JAN10 @ 129.0 + setup: 0.0`
`02:03.43`	`Zanix`	`Processor: AMD 64 Athlon 3200+`
`02:03.43`	`Zanix`	`Memory: 2048MB RAM`
`02:03.43`	`Zanix`	`Primary Hard Drive: 160GB Hard Drive`
`02:03.43`	`Zanix`	`Secondary Hard Drive: None`
`02:03.44`	`Zanix`	`Drive Controller: SATA (No Additional Fee)`
`02:03.46`	`Zanix`	`Operating System Select One: Fedora Core 8`
`02:03.48`	`Zanix`	`Control Panel: None`
`02:03.50`	`Zanix`	`Plesk Language Pack (Must Select a Plesk Control Panel Option): None`
`02:03.51`	`Zanix`	`Database: None`
`02:03.55`	`Zanix`	`Virtuozzo Licenses for Linux and Windows L1: None`
`02:03.58`	`Zanix`	`AntiVirus: None`
`02:04.00`	`Zanix`	`Firewall: None`
`02:04.02`	`Zanix`	`IP Addresses: 8 (5 Usable)`
`02:04.04`	`Zanix`	`Private Switch: None`
`02:04.06`	`Zanix`	`Tier 1 Bandwidth: 1500GB`
`02:04.08`	`Zanix`	`Uplink Port Speed: 100Mbps Uplink`
`02:04.10`	`Zanix`	`CD-ROM: None`
`02:04.14`	`Zanix`	`Graphics Card: None`
`02:04.14`	`Zanix`	`Safety Net: None`
`02:04.17`	`Hasbro`	`aw no cd-rom`
`02:04.22`	`Zanix`	`******done`
`02:04.26`	`Zanix`	`lol`
`02:04.30`	`Hasbro`	`;p`
`02:04.42`	`Hasbro`	`What I do is I have a windows box`
`02:04.45`	`Hasbro`	`and I run a vm inside :P`
`02:04.54`	`Hasbro`	`with Ubuntu`
`02:04.55`	`Hasbro`	`:D`
`02:05.10`	`Zanix`	`nice`
`02:05.39`	`Zanix`	`to be specific about what custom code we use, its auth_mysql for apache`
`02:05.59`	`Zanix`	`it allows auth from a mysql database...obviously`
`02:06.14`	`Zanix`	`we use the forum usernames:passwords/groups for svn access`
`02:06.36`	`Hasbro`	`lol, you have them in a mysql db? :P`
`02:06.41`	`Hasbro`	`I just use passwd`
`02:06.41`	`Hasbro`	`:D`
`02:06.46`	`Hasbro`	`but`
`02:06.50`	`Hasbro`	`I guess they're integrated into your site?`
`02:07.19`	`Zanix`	`yeah, we use the user management in our fourms to control access`
`02:07.27`	`Hasbro`	`:P`
`02:07.29`	`Hasbro`	`lazy`
`02:07.36`	`Zanix`	`it makes it easier, and when you change your pass, it changes it for the svn...`
`02:07.49`	`Zanix`	`not lazy, just more efficient`
`02:07.54`	`Zanix`	`....or something`
`02:07.58`	`Hasbro`	`:D`
`02:08.00`	`Hasbro`	`lazy`
`02:08.00`	`Hasbro`	`:P`
`02:08.04`	`Zanix`	`:9`
`02:08.05`	`Zanix`	`:(`
`02:08.11`	`Hasbro`	`need 2 scandisk`
`02:08.12`	`Hasbro`	`weeee`
`02:08.15`	`Zanix`	`have fun`
`02:08.31`	`Hasbro`	`of course`
`02:08.34`	`Hasbro`	`server 2003`
`02:08.37`	`Hasbro`	`has no scandisk`
`02:08.38`	`Hasbro`	`...`
`02:08.53`	`Hasbro`	`piece of junk`
`02:08.54`	`Zanix`	`I did not know what`
`02:08.58`	`Zanix`	`*that`
`02:09.07`	`Zanix`	`sneaky w`
`02:09.54`	`Zanix`	`about the armory, the biggest reason we dont pull from that is because of the issues we have had with the armory sync addon for roster`
`02:10.02`	`Hasbro`	`:S`
`02:10.05`	`Hasbro`	`How do they have issues?`
`02:10.06`	`Hasbro`	`lol`
`02:10.19`	`Hasbro`	`Write a class which handles caching, then integrate it with roster`
`02:10.24`	`Hasbro`	`have it get their character names`
`02:10.25`	`Zanix`	`ddos issues, it fetches so many characters then blizz blocks access`
`02:10.29`	`Hasbro`	`lol`
`02:10.30`	`Hasbro`	`oh`
`02:10.32`	`Zanix`	`it does have one`
`02:10.35`	`Hasbro`	`make it scan in intervoles`
`02:10.45`	`Zanix`	`hard to do with downloadable php code`
`02:10.50`	`Hasbro`	`?`
`02:10.53`	`Zanix`	`since servers have varying timeouts`
`02:10.56`	`Zanix`	`in php`
`02:11.03`	`Hasbro`	`right, you can set the ini timeout`
`02:11.10`	`Zanix`	`most servers wont let you`
`02:11.13`	`Hasbro`	`:S`
`02:11.14`	`Hasbro`	`since when`
`02:11.34`	`Zanix`	`since the many forum posts we get about errors when trying to set it`
`02:11.39`	`Zanix`	`*we got`
`02:11.46`	`Hasbro`	`Then you respond "no wow roster 4 u nub"`
`02:11.47`	`Hasbro`	`:)`
`02:11.51`	`Hasbro`	`Kidding`
`02:11.52`	`Hasbro`	`I see`
`02:11.52`	`Hasbro`	`hrm`
`02:11.54`	`Hasbro`	`bugger`
`02:12.07`	`Zanix`	`yeah, so its been a battle, the dev of it quit a few months back`
`02:12.14`	`Hasbro`	`Write a java application to pull it and dump it into text`
`02:12.17`	`Hasbro`	`then write something in php`
`02:12.17`	`Zanix`	`someone just recently took it over`
`02:12.18`	`Hasbro`	`to parse it`
`02:12.19`	`Hasbro`	`:P`
`02:12.34`	`Zanix`	`he thinks he solved the problem`
`02:12.42`	`Hasbro`	`How's that?`
`02:12.58`	`Zanix`	`I dunno, I havent talked to him much`
`02:13.03`	`Hasbro`	`:S`
`02:13.14`	`Hasbro`	`You guys need to communicate :P`
`02:13.27`	`Zanix`	`ive been thinking the best way to hadle armory in roster though, perhaps not fetch all the characters at once, but on demand`
`02:13.45`	`Zanix`	`well, I dont have alot of time to do that nowadays`
`02:14.08`	`Zanix`	`in fact, the only reason Im talking now is because mondays are usually the only free time I have anymore`
`02:14.14`	`Hasbro`	`:o`
`02:14.21`	`Hasbro`	`lucky me ^^ :D`
`02:14.34`	`Zanix`	`yeah...Im almost thinking about handing over admin of the project to someone else`
`02:14.50`	`Zanix`	`cant be a leader with no time to lead`
`02:15.25`	`Zanix`	`but im selfish, I dont wanna give up control`
`02:15.41`	`Hasbro`	`qq`
`02:15.44`	`Zanix`	`lol, and I hope that I will have time later...but that may be too late`
`02:15.50`	`Hasbro`	`damn`
`02:15.55`	`Hasbro`	`I have class tommorow`
`02:15.57`	`Hasbro`	`we had a snow day today`
`02:15.57`	`Hasbro`	`:P`
`02:15.58`	`Zanix`	`me too`
`02:16.12`	`Hasbro`	`I hope all the snow here freezes`
`02:16.15`	`Hasbro`	`and they cancel class again`
`02:16.16`	`Hasbro`	`:)`
`02:16.17`	`Zanix`	`8-12 everyday, then I work 1-6`
`02:16.21`	`Hasbro`	`:o`
`02:16.25`	`Hasbro`	`Where do you work?`
`02:16.41`	`Zanix`	`an auction company, im the computer systems admin`
`02:16.47`	`Zanix`	`and web developer`
`02:16.52`	`Zanix`	`and auction page updater`
`02:16.54`	`Hasbro`	`link 2 site?`
`02:17.01`	`Zanix`	`www.primetimeauctions.com`
`02:17.21`	`Hasbro`	`Ghetto :P`
`02:17.27`	`Hasbro`	`Is that you in the top right?`
`02:17.36`	`Hasbro`	`Sexy`
`02:17.37`	`Hasbro`	`^^`
`02:17.37`	`Zanix`	`depends, who does it say it is`
`02:17.55`	`Zanix`	`the sites design wasnt my choice`
`02:18.05`	`Zanix`	`I had very little say in it`
`02:18.13`	`Hasbro`	`good`
`02:18.15`	`Hasbro`	`it's ugly`
`02:18.15`	`Hasbro`	`;P`
`02:18.24`	`Hasbro`	`Why's there a box up top left?`
`02:18.31`	`Hasbro`	`should make the value="Search.."`
`02:18.32`	`Hasbro`	`:P`
`02:18.34`	`Hasbro`	`so people know, lol`
`02:18.35`	`Zanix`	`box?`
`02:18.39`	`Zanix`	`oh`
`02:18.47`	`Zanix`	`yeah, it should be like that....`
`02:18.55`	`Zanix`	`I havent had time to fix it yet`
`02:19.04`	`Zanix`	`I have so much other crap going on there`
`02:19.19`	`Zanix`	`im so freaking busy lately`
`02:19.46`	`Zanix`	`if you think this looks bad, you should have seen the old site`
`02:19.51`	`Zanix`	`uhg`
`02:19.57`	`Hasbro`	`lol`
`02:20.11`	`Zanix`	`and what they wanted for a new design before I told them hell no`
`02:20.30`	`Zanix`	`I said i would quit`
`02:20.31`	`Zanix`	`lol`
`02:21.37`	`Zanix`	`if the name on the photo said joshua, it's me`
`02:22.12`	`Hasbro`	`o.o`
`02:24.19`	`Zanix`	`well, its time for diner I might be back on in about an hour or so`
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