IRC log for #wowroster on 20080724

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15:17.42HarshmageAre any of our devs in the beta?  Because, at least for Huntards and DKs, there's going to be another layer of complexity to add to Roster...
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16:16.46GaxmeOk, stupid question of the day re siggen, I guess.
16:17.04GaxmeI just updated to the latest version, and suddenly none of the images show up. Getting not found and "Siggen Works"
16:17.21GaxmeWe've got a bunch of custom types, all in separate save directories, and I set up rewrite rules for all of them.
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16:18.04GaxmeAnd see, I scare Zanix away!
16:25.28Zanix|Worknaw
16:25.38Zanix|Workyou probably just scared my home computer
16:25.49Zanix|Workits still shaking after 4 hours of Crysis
16:26.17Zanix|WorkHarshmage: none of us are in the beta
16:26.48GaxmeLOL
16:27.16GaxmeFigured it out. 0.3.2.410 still has the explode error with realm for hyphenated realms.
16:27.57GaxmeI noted it on the forum.
16:28.49Zanix|Workoh dang
16:28.55Zanix|WorkI didnt catch that one
16:29.05GaxmeNo worries. Was the second place I looked. =)
16:29.10Zanix|Workdoes roster have that error as well?
16:29.14GaxmeFirst was making sure the permissions were right.
16:29.25GaxmeWe got them fixed in the SVN for the roster itself a while back.
16:29.35GaxmeI was having trouble during beta.
16:29.38Zanix|Workah, I use the same code
16:29.46Zanix|WorkI must have never updated siggen's copy
16:29.52GaxmeWhich means I'm the only one from a hyphenated realm, I swear. =)
16:29.58Zanix|Worklol
16:30.21GaxmeI'll do a search through the codebase here for 2.0
16:30.25GaxmeSee if it exists elsewhere.
16:32.21GaxmeThe responsiveness of 2.0 release seems to be a lot better.
16:33.15GaxmeSince beta, at least.
16:39.36Zanix|Workyeah, with the debug off, it is a bit faster
16:39.45Zanix|WorkI stil think its many times faster than 1.7.3 though
16:39.56Zanix|WorkI gotta go for a few hours
16:40.02Zanix|Work...I actually have to work
16:40.06Zanix|Work<PROTECTED>
16:40.09Zanix|Worksee ya
17:10.43HarshmageOkay, so what kind of data should I be gathering?  Everything's still in beta, but the framework seems to be set for now.
17:36.07GaxmeI am jealous of the beta spot. =)
17:36.38GaxmeNot to speak out of turn, but I'd document changes in stats (additional, missing, etc), talents, spells.
17:36.51GaxmeIf quest frameworks changed, those.
17:37.15GaxmeWhether the new features, like the achievements, are documented anywhere on the character, or invisible "flags" like attunements.
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18:13.52Harshmagethe achievements part looks like something that CP will be able to parse, and we'll have even more stats for Roster to show.  It catalogues things like the number of kills you've made, of what bosses you've taken down, and all that jazz.  Not too shabby, really.
18:14.45Harshmageeither that, or roster could just use the SV for the achievement addon itself (it's a Blizz addon)
18:17.39GaxmeThat's cool...
18:18.03GaxmeHow's it look overall? I'm kind of sad I haven't gotten a beta invite yet. Helped beta the original and BC. =)
18:18.22GaxmeI like doing the base testing, it's enjoyable.
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19:44.49Zanix|Workyeah, as far as I know we need achievements, spell glyph frame, pet talents
19:45.26Zanix|WorkGaxme, Harshmage, do you know anyone who has or can help with CP
19:45.38Zanix|Workit seems that calvin is too busy these days to continue work on it
19:47.28GaxmeI'm definitely not the master of LUA. Though, I've been considering trying to learn it.
19:47.33GaxmeI need a good development platform, though.
19:49.09Zanix|Workyeah
19:49.21Zanix|Workscitek or something I hear is a good lua ide
19:49.27Zanix|WorkI cant remember the name though....
19:49.37Zanix|Worksiekte
19:49.42Zanix|Work....oh well
19:49.59Zanix|Workanyway, Im asking calvin if wowroster.net can take over CP and GP
19:50.20Zanix|Workthen we can recruit a couple of devs for it
19:50.30Zanix|Workmaybe bsmorgan wil help
19:55.11Harshmageask CK...hes been the auth for many of the addons I use.
20:05.28Zanix|Workwho?
20:06.58Harshmageckknight
20:07.48Zanix|Workah
20:08.07Zanix|WorkI dunno, it seems many of the guys at wowace dont like CP
20:08.29Zanix|Workat least thats the impression I get
20:09.11HarshmageWell, with the beta, CP might need a rewrite, since Blizz added so much more to the game
20:10.05Zanix|Workyeah
20:10.08Zanix|Workvery true
20:10.37Zanix|WorkI need to map out the full structure of CP, so I know all the data it gets
20:10.44Zanix|Workthen remove anything un-needed
20:12.05Zanix|Workitem data really needs to be stored differently
20:13.43Harshmageprobably true....we've had CP for ages, so the organization of that data might be a bit mangled after so many versions...
20:17.19Zanix|Workcalvin did a bit of cleaning for 2.0
20:18.19Zanix|Workim gonna head home, but I have to work tonight too
20:18.26Zanix|Workanyway, later
20:42.38Zanixand im home, for a little while
20:48.04GaxmeHrm, I just found a WoW addon dev studio...
20:48.15Gaxmehttp://www.codeplex.com/WarcraftAddOnStudio
20:48.26GaxmeBut I don't have Visual Studio 2008 to compile the latest build. Heh.
20:49.49Harshmagewell, it's a good thing I work for a college...I've had my copy of VS2008 for months now..I'll see what I can do
20:52.12GaxmeHeh, thanks.
20:52.44GaxmeThe snapshot is at http://www.codeplex.com/WarcraftAddOnStudio/SourceControl/ListDownloadableCommits.aspx
20:52.50Zanixyeap, seen that
20:53.05GaxmeThat may help the lua development a bit, at least.
20:53.07Zanixit has problems with ace libs though
20:53.23GaxmeThe 2.0 version?
20:53.26Zanixnice to see that it is active
20:53.28Zanix1.01
20:53.30Zanix1.1
20:53.33Zanixor whatever it is
20:53.34GaxmeThere's only a 1.01 release built, yeah.
20:53.41GaxmeBut the newest snapshot is 2.0.
20:53.42Zanix2.0 isnt final according to the site
20:53.48Gaxme*nod
20:54.30Zanixhttp://www.amazon.com/World-Warcraft-Programming-Reference-Creating/dp/0470229810/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1210717792&sr=8-1
20:54.32ZanixI should get that
20:55.06GaxmeI was thinking that too. =)
20:57.09GaxmeWoWUIDesigner appears to be dead.
21:04.39Zanixyeah
21:04.41Zanixit does
21:17.56PleegWatdoes all dev work in vim
21:42.34GaxmeHeading home. Back later.

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