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15:13.22draculahey, I was wondering... what does this search option do?
15:13.41draculaUtilities -> Search ("search items and recipes in the database")
15:14.23draculaif I type something obvious as "Super Healing Potion" it doesn't find anything
15:14.35draculano inventory item, not the alchemist who can craft it
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15:17.15Zanixheh
15:17.40Zanixdracula, the search has been completely changed so addons can hook into the search process
15:17.52Zanixand items and recipes havent been added back in yet
15:17.57draculaaah
15:18.34draculait sounds like a powerful feature, once it is back in ;)
15:19.23Zanixyeah, memberslist, questlist, and news use the search hooks
15:19.34Zanixenable those addons and just leave the search blank
15:19.50Zanixwe do have the form for item search in there, it just doesnt search items
15:22.22Zanixgotta get ready for wok
15:22.24Zanixwork
15:22.29Zanixbb when I get there
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16:00.47GaxmeHey there.
16:01.46Zanix|Workhi
16:02.53Nefuh|GermanyHi
16:06.10GaxmeSo, Zanix, the armory class fetchItemTooltipHTML will grab the item data, which I can then throw into the overlib?
16:06.24Zanix|WorkI think so, I havent tested it yet
16:06.40GaxmeMuch much more clean over using itemstats. =)
16:06.45GaxmeI'll give it a test run.
16:06.45Zanix|Workindeed
16:07.01Zanix|WorkI would look at how armorysync uses this class as well
16:07.04GaxmeI hadn't even approached the itemstats issue yet. That could potentially save me a TON of time.
16:07.15Zanix|Workindeed+1
16:08.33GaxmeYea, that only thing I'm not certain of is the different between ItemInfo and ItemTooltip if they aren't set by "standard" naming convention. I'm guessing they are. I'll dive into that more deeply later.
16:09.08Zanix|Worksounds good
16:09.34Zanix|Worki might have to mess around with it myself, for the vault addon, to fetch item ids that are not in the db
16:14.15GaxmeHow are you storing those? By HTML or XML?
16:14.23GaxmeOr separated data? I haven't looked. =)
16:15.16GaxmeThe lib looks like it will pull arrays, xml, or html, so it could be worked over any way.
16:15.42Zanix|Workyeah
16:15.53Zanix|Workthe data isnt stored, that is up to you
16:16.15Zanix|Workit used to cache the results, but we decided that it should be left to the dev using the class
16:17.45GaxmeMyself I prefer the cache options.
16:17.59GaxmeJust give me a way to update the cache duration.
16:18.26GaxmeHell, for a vault you could update the cache when it gets guildprofiler updates or a memberlist update from the armory via armorysync.
16:18.52GaxmeWhich probably doesn't happen more than once or twice a day, depending on the guild, I guess.
16:19.00GaxmeI couldn't get my officers to run guild profiler if my life depended on it.
16:19.13GaxmeHence the reason armorysync becomes way cool for us. Heh.
16:21.56GaxmeHmm. The update lib has tooltip and item retention functions as well.
16:22.09GaxmeI guess I didn't realize that.
16:24.11GaxmeWell, I see what you mean with the vault updating the item tables then.
16:24.37GaxmeBecause I could do the same thing with the roster addon. If the item exists in the items table, use it, otherwise have an option to fetch it from the armory and update it.
16:24.45GaxmeErr, with the raidtracker addon.
16:24.49Zanix|Workyeah
16:25.02GaxmeWould you prefer I set that as an option, then?
16:25.04Zanix|Workthe vault addon uses its own table for item though
16:25.11Gaxme*nod
16:25.17GaxmeItems table seems to be by character
16:25.20GaxmeWhich makes sense, really.
16:25.31GaxmeSince items can be socketed differently, etc.
16:25.51Zanix|Worksocket ids are in the item id, so you can normalize that
16:25.57Zanix|Worksame with enchants
16:26.16GaxmeSo the stuff in roster_items is without enchants and gems?
16:26.33Zanix|Workthe problem is getting the base item info
16:26.56Zanix|Workno, its the actual item the character has, enchants gems and all
16:27.12GaxmeOk.
16:27.14Zanix|Workand there is alot of duplication
16:27.21GaxmeHrm, I don't know best approach there, then.
16:27.30Zanix|Workthere isnt a good one
16:27.39Zanix|WorkI would leave the roster_items table alone
16:27.40GaxmeI suppose, since player and itemID are both stored, I could check for it in the items table first.
16:27.46GaxmeThen it would reflect what the character has.
16:27.58GaxmeSpecifically for the tracker addon, that is.
16:28.07GaxmeAnd if that does not exist, then farm out to the armory.
16:28.15Zanix|Workwell, what about when the user trashes/sells the item
16:28.19Zanix|Workthen its gone
16:28.29GaxmeThen you'd get raw armory data anyway.
16:28.35Zanix|Worktrue
16:28.41GaxmeThough, that does remind me of another update question though.
16:28.58GaxmeDoes the new version handle swapping professions?
16:29.12GaxmeI noticed the old version didn't notice when I dropped say, herbalism, and picked up blacksmithing.
16:29.26GaxmeI haven't heavily tested that on the new one yet.
16:30.01GaxmeI sidetracked myself. So really, the only advantage to checking if the item is in the items table is to slow down the number of out-calls to the armory.
16:30.59GaxmeMan, it's double word day, I guess...
16:31.07Gaxme"Though, though", "notice, notice".
16:31.13GaxmeObviously I need more coffee.
16:31.47Zanix|WorkI know the skills table is wiped every upload for each character
16:31.58GaxmeOk, then that's handled.
16:32.08Zanix|Workit might be that CP is keeping the data
16:32.25GaxmeGood point.
16:32.45GaxmeI ditched 1.7.3 though, letting everyone get a better feel for the new version.
16:32.55GaxmeSo I'm not overly worried about it. =)
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16:38.34GaxmeHrm, is there a base function for retrieving a stored tooltip, or will I need to write that? like retrieve_item($memberID, $itemID) or some such?
16:39.03GaxmeI see fetchNamedItem, let me check that.
16:39.12Zanix|WorkI *think* so
16:39.18Zanix|Workcheck the item class
16:39.27GaxmeYeah, that's where I'm looking.
16:39.48GaxmeIs the general convention that _functionName() are meant to be internal?
16:40.12Zanix|Workyeah
16:40.35Zanix|Workits kinda new for 2.0, so some other older classes might not be named as such
16:42.59GaxmeWell, fetchNamedItem will return the first match given by a name search. fetchOneItem requires a member ID and a slot.
16:43.20GaxmeI may need to add a method for fetchMemberItemID or some such.
16:43.38GaxmeThough there's no real reason to add that to the general class, I'd think.
16:43.46GaxmeI can just extend the item class.
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16:47.45Zanix|Workim not opposed to adding it
16:50.17GaxmeLet me write up a fetchItemID method (similar to fetchNamedItem - grabs the first one) and a fetchMemberItemID for a specific item attached to a member_id
16:50.25GaxmeThose two should cover it.
17:04.59Zanix|Workok
17:05.35Zanix|Workdo you want mod status on the raidtracker sub-forum?
17:08.28GaxmeHrm, that wouldn't hurt probably, though I have never done checkin/checkout on svn. I'll have to read some documentation!
17:08.52GaxmeAlso, we'll want to move the existing raidtracker tree to an archive, since it's 1.7.3 rather than 2.0
17:14.10GaxmeYou want me just to paste the additional functions here?
17:14.17GaxmeOr want them on the forums somewhere?
17:15.07Zanix|Workwell, the roster1 svn is dev checkin only
17:15.19Zanix|Workgo ahead and post in the beta file forum
17:15.55GaxmeRight, you meant the forums. I skimmed.
17:16.21Zanix|Workand you can tag the current raidtracker in the addon svn
17:16.37Zanix|Workif you dont know how to tdo that, I can do it for you
17:18.03GaxmeCode posted. I definitely don't know how to tag it.
17:19.23GaxmeReading the SVN rules now.
17:20.45Zanix|Workcool
17:21.24GaxmeSo if I were to do code submissions by svn my local filesystem would be trunk/raidtracker and I would commit from that directory?
17:22.52GaxmeOr roster1_addons/trunk/raidtracker ?
17:23.07Zanix|Workit depends what you check out
17:23.45Zanix|WorkI would probably just check out roster1_addons/trunk/raidtracker/ directly into your addons folder in roster itself
17:24.11Zanix|Workcrap, I have to go
17:24.15Zanix|Workbbl
17:24.19GaxmeNo worries, can chat about it later.
17:24.23GaxmeI still have a ton of coding todo.
17:24.24Zanix|Workprobably in 2 hours or so
17:24.26GaxmeThanks for the help
17:24.28Zanix|Worknp
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