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02:32.49jimmylee7706I've looked through the forums but I still can't find what I am looking for, can anyone explain to me why when I upload my data my quest log doesn't show my quests ?
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02:56.55fewynGIANTS WIN THE SUPER BOWL
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04:40.47tuaguildhey zanix you here man
04:44.44tuaguildnvm i figured it out lol
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15:50.47GaxmeMorning, afternoon, whatever time zone you're in greeting here. =)
15:51.43GaxmeIf anyone gets a chance, I'm curious whether or not it's possible for an addon to hook a tab into the character display screen without modifying base code.
15:52.23GaxmeMore specifically I'm trying to find a way to add a "Loot" tab to the character screen for use by the raidtracker I'm working on, so you can see what someone got without going directly through the addon.
15:52.58GaxmeActually, you know what... It doesn't really matter now that I say that outloud.
15:53.07GaxmeSince in the character context it can just be a button in the menu.
15:53.29GaxmeSo, I guess I'm still curious if it's possible, but it's not really necessary
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15:53.51NefuhI think this is not easy. On Roster 2.0 the memberlist is a own addon not in the core.
15:54.38GaxmeYeah. Solid point.
15:54.47GaxmeIt would have to extend the memberlist addon, I guess.
15:55.04GaxmeObviously I hadn't really given it near as much thought as I should have.
15:56.11NefuhWhen you have a raidtracker addon for roster 2.0 who saves all loot to the database, it could be possible to modify the memberlist addon to check if loottable exists and try to get the loot for the member.
15:56.33Gaxme*nod That may be the best way to go.
15:56.45GaxmeStill, probably just as simple to add it as a button to the character context and allow a click.
15:56.56GaxmeIt's just not loaded with the character screen, which makes it more "sexy".
15:57.07GaxmeSince you don't have to load a new page.
15:58.00NefuhThe best is you write to the addon author, wowroster.net he could say if this is possible or not.
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18:20.21Zanix|WorkHello everyone
18:20.38Zanix|Work!rules
18:20.43Zanix|Workhehe
18:20.53Zanix|Worknice harsh
18:33.49Nefuhhey zanix :)
18:34.28Harshmageoh...oops, I forgot I still had that on....should I turn that off?
18:35.12Zanix|Worknaw, I like it
18:35.22Zanix|Workhi Nefuh
18:35.28Zanix|Workabout the solution to siggen
18:35.43Zanix|WorkI dont think an additional define is the answer either
18:36.07Zanix|Workthe cmslink.lib.php file is meant to be customized for the cms roster is being ported to
18:36.11Zanix|Workthats why it was made
18:36.22Zanix|Workso cms detection shouldnt be needed
18:36.35Zanix|Workthe root of the problem is the links
18:37.04Zanix|Workit seems we still have a problem with links with cms ports
18:37.14Zanix|Workalthough, it it not as big of a problem
18:40.04NefuhThe Problem is that i must edit ROSTER_URL to make roster work in Joomla, and the makelink function use this ROSTER_URL when the option is set to true. So this give always a wrong link. If you have a better Idea how to solve it, this were great.
18:40.15Zanix|Workyeah
18:40.18Zanix|WorkI hear ya
18:40.56Zanix|Workediting ROSTER_URL is what is needed
18:41.12Zanix|Workthat is why this define is in this file
18:41.32Zanix|Worklet me get this file opened
18:44.55Zanix|Workadmin\menu_conf.php, c.php, header.php, lib\functions.lib.php, lib\menu.php, realmstatus.php, settings.php
18:45.01Zanix|Workthese files user ROSTER_URL
18:46.09Zanix|Workmenu button config, {ROSTER_URL} for templates, function getaddon()
18:46.41Zanix|Workwhen setting $addon['url_full'] and $addon['image_url']
18:46.56Zanix|Workrealmstatus when setting the url for the image
18:47.21Zanix|Workimages in realmstatus when set to div container mode
18:48.23Zanix|Worksome of these will be wrong if ROSTER_URL isnt the full qualified path
18:49.10Zanix|WorkI think you should edit ROSTER_LINK
18:49.36Zanix|Workor just make the edit in makelink()
18:49.49Zanix|WorkI think this will solve the problem
18:50.16Zanix|WorkROSTER_URL needs to be the full qualified path, makelink() just needs to make the correct link
18:51.05NefuhYeah youīve got right, but the problem is that ROSTER_URL didnīt get the right path for com_wowroster automaticly
18:51.47NefuhIt use always the main joomla path, so i had manually to add the rest of the full url (components/com_wowroster/)
18:55.23Zanix|Workright
18:55.33Zanix|Workand just editing that part in makelink() should be fine
18:56.07Zanix|Workwait
18:56.13Zanix|Workleft me look at your pm again
18:56.15Zanix|Workim getting lost
18:56.16Zanix|Worklol
18:57.59Zanix|WorkI would do that edit for ROSTER_URL, or use a joomla variable if it is available
18:58.10Zanix|Workdefine('ROSTER_URL',$url.'components/com_wowroster/');
18:58.40Zanix|Workthen change makelink() to use what you have set as ROSTER_REAL_URL
19:00.32Zanix|Workand as I said, there should be no need for the IN_CMS check since cmslink.lib.php was meant to be altered for roster ports
19:00.51Zanix|Workwe wanted Roster 2.0 to have as little edits as possible to work in a cms
19:04.06Zanix|Workif im right, you should have only needed to edit cmslink.lib.php, header.php, footer.php, and some of the template files
19:04.22Zanix|Workor made new template files
19:06.08Nefuhno header.php and footer.php there were no changes. But on template.php i need to edit the urls to get the template files on com_wowroster. And edit the templates files so that they not produce a html-header code, because this is generate by joomla. And the index.php i need to replace the exit() function and make a override.
19:06.43Zanix|Workah
19:06.46Zanix|Workthats right
19:07.00Zanix|WorkI still need to fix template.php
19:07.03Zanix|WorkI forgot about that
19:07.10Zanix|Workits not using absolute paths
19:07.31Zanix|Workill have to see what changes you made and fix ours accordingly
19:08.00Nefuhyeah feel free to download com_wowroster and analyze my changes.
19:11.07Nefuhwhatīs about your site? I get connection errors from germany?
19:21.49Zanix|Workwowroster.net?
19:21.51Zanix|Workreally?
19:22.22Nefuhyes i became the message that the server needs to long time to answer
19:24.12Zanix|Workweird
19:24.17Zanix|Workit loads quickly for me
19:29.29Nefuhnow it loads
19:29.54Zanix|Workso, roster20b(SVN 1625)_joomlaedition.zip is extracted first
19:30.03Zanix|Workthen com_wowroster.zip over that?
19:30.23Nefuhno com_wowroster.zip is the main component to direct upload by joomla backend.
19:30.59Nefuhroster20b... are the rest files that were not edited ;) But without the edited files so users canīt replaced needed files
19:30.59Zanix|Workoh, so that is first?
19:31.06Zanix|Workah
19:31.19Zanix|Workso the com_wowroster.zip is the edited files
19:31.25Nefuhyes
19:31.29Zanix|Worki see
19:31.40Zanix|Workinteresting way to distribute
19:32.07Zanix|Workhave the users download the base roster files, then have then download this file, and overwrite
19:32.13Zanix|Workor something like that
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19:32.29Zanix|Workanaxant and I were thinking of the same thing for rosterdf
19:33.07NefuhThey only loaded the com_wowroster(unzip 1st).zip this must be extrace and then com_wowroster.zip needs to be uploaded by joomla backend and the roster20b... files after that with an ftp program
19:33.43Nefuhthe imagepack can load like normal in the /img/Interface folder, no located in components/com_wowroster/img/Interface
19:35.35Zanix|WorkI think I can fix template.php so no edits are needed
19:35.56Zanix|Workits using relative paths, not absolute
19:36.17Nefuhthis were great, when i worked on this file i get the most headache
19:36.27Zanix|WorkI bet
19:38.18Zanix|Workso, the ONLY changes are in com_wowroster.zip
19:38.34Zanix|Workroster20b(SVN 1625)_joomlaedition.zip is direct from Roster, correct?
19:38.34Nefuhyes
19:39.05Zanix|Workok, I will see about going over your changes and see if I can render them un-needed
19:39.37Zanix|Worksome file will need to be edited by you no matter what
19:39.52Zanix|Workbut we cant make it too easy for you right? :)
19:40.08Nefuhok
19:41.35Zanix|WorkI just want roster to be easy as possible to integrate into a cms
19:41.46Zanix|Workalso for updates to roster
19:41.54Zanix|Workso it would be easy to update the port as well
19:42.31Nefuhyeah i think when you do the edits to the template.php is still easier to make a port.
19:42.47Zanix|Workindeed
19:42.56Zanix|Workanax and I had problems with it
19:43.06Zanix|Workwhen working on rosterdf
19:43.07NefuhThe job that all the devīs have done to roster 2.0 is really god.
19:43.18Zanix|Workbut since you solved that, I can work back from your edits
19:43.29Zanix|Workthanks
19:44.18Zanix|Workyou should remove the alternative url option in roster for joomla
19:44.33Zanix|Workit allows the use of mod_rewrite urls
19:45.12Nefuhyes thatīs the next on my todo list. Joomla have it own component for SEO my hope is that this quite work with com_wowroster but it is not tested yet.
19:45.19Zanix|Workah
19:45.31Zanix|WorkI would pipe the output of makelink() into that
19:45.40Zanix|Workthats what we did for rosterdf
19:45.59Zanix|Workthere is alot of logic in makelink() though
19:46.00Zanix|Worklol
19:46.51Nefuhanother question iīve send you a private message for a few days with a question about my hosting service? But still get no answer. I will do nothing thatīs not ok for the devīs.
19:47.23Zanix|Workwe are still talking it over
19:47.31Nefuhah ok
19:47.51Zanix|Workthe general consensus is leaning toward it being ok
19:48.05GaxmeHrm, does the db layer handle transactions?
19:48.32Zanix|Worknot sure what you mean, im not to hot on sql lol
19:49.35GaxmeHeh, I mean allow use of InnoDB tables to handle transaction layers. So I can submit a set of queries after starting a transaction, and if any one of them fails, it rolls back all the changes.
19:50.00GaxmeI'm looking through the mysql layer to see, actually. =)
19:50.13Zanix|Workim not sure to be honest
19:50.17Zanix|WorkPleegWat would know
19:51.12GaxmeNope, doesn't look like it does.
19:51.31GaxmeIt's not a hugely common practice with mysql, it seems.
19:51.55Zanix|WorkI think for R3 we will be doing that
19:51.58GaxmeThat might be something to add to later versions, I guess.
19:52.02Zanix|WorkI heard pleeg talk about it
19:52.17GaxmeAs it stands, it's still workable, just takes a little more code checking.
19:52.17Zanix|WorkNefuh, I have to ask about the edits to pages/update.php, pages/rostercp.php, and ib/update.lib.php
19:52.23Zanix|Workyeah
19:52.55Zanix|Workwhy is the check for login added in these? was just editing login.php not enough?
19:54.12Zanix|Work$this->allow_login is set with the current user auth level
19:54.27Zanix|Workwhen RosterLogin is initialized
19:54.31GaxmeOooh, am I smelling an auth plugin framework?
19:55.06Zanix|Workfunction getAuthorized( $access )          just returns             $this->allow_login >= $access;
19:55.13Nefuhyeah you right. But i edited login.php first in the last release. So there should be no more need to edit the other files.
19:55.20Zanix|Workok
19:55.25Zanix|Workjust checking
19:55.34Zanix|Workand wondering if we left something out
19:55.43Zanix|Workyes Gaxme
19:55.59Zanix|Workand addon can actually take over the auth system in roster (which is very basic)
19:56.12Zanix|Workthere is an addon in the addon svn right now called accounts that does this
19:56.37GaxmeLet me know how that works out. =) I'm running SMF, so I'd be happy to try and help throw together auth for that if no one else does.
19:56.53Zanix|WorkI think someone is, im not sure
19:57.01Zanix|WorkI would check the integration -> smf forum
19:57.24Gaxme*nod There's a plugin that's handling SMF updates based off guild updates. Already playing with that.
19:57.37GaxmeBut not an actual auth plugin that verifies the SMF sessions.
19:57.51NefuhZanix question: i look on pages/update.php and it seems that the password box will always show, even when i authorized?
19:57.55GaxmeWhich, it turns out, is not particularly hard to code.
19:58.02GaxmeAck, work meeting, afk a few.
19:58.15Zanix|Workyeah
19:58.27Zanix|Workthat page actually hasnt been updated to the new auth yet
19:58.47Zanix|Workit needs to be
19:59.03Nefuhah ok, it will be updated so that when im authorized the box will not display? Then i need no edits there ;)
19:59.41Zanix|Workright
19:59.47Zanix|Workwhen I get around to it, lol
20:07.44Zanix|Workin fact, i should write that down
20:10.25Zanix|Workalright, noted in the dev what needs to be done to roster 2.0 topic
20:12.06NefuhZanix is it planned to get a list of all functions that can a roster addon dev use? The MediaWiki is quite good but not all functions are there (the function for sql operations, the border function etc)?
20:12.23Zanix|Workyeah they are
20:13.09Zanix|Workat least I think they are
20:13.31Zanix|Workok, all of the sql functions are not listed
20:13.36Zanix|Workjust $roster->db
20:13.50Zanix|Workhttp://www.wowroster.net/MediaWiki/AddonSDK#Functions
20:18.42Zanix|WorkI can add in the specific  sql functions
20:18.48Zanix|Workor if you want to
20:18.58Zanix|WorkI would make a new section for it
20:19.01NefuhI think of a subcategory in MediaWiki were all functions are listed in a submenu, an on click you get additional infos for the function?
20:22.28Zanix|Worknot a bad idea
20:24.00Nefuhiīve seen something like this for Joomla API and itīs quite usefull, i think only the main devīs know all functions, and an addon dev must take a look at the files when he want to know if thereīs a function for something or not.
20:25.12Zanix|WorkI tried to include everything that is available
20:25.37Zanix|Workthe addon sdk is by far much larger than 1.7.3
20:27.47NefuhYeah, but i think itīs quite easier to develop a addon for roster 2.0 than for 1.7.3.
20:29.06Zanix|WorkI think so too
20:32.23Zanix|Workcan you do me a favor
20:32.31Zanix|Workdealing with template.php
20:33.05Zanix|Worki will post a new file, can you try it our for me?
20:33.11NefuhYeah sure
20:33.41Nefuhon SVN?
20:34.07Zanix|Workno, on pastebin
20:34.16Zanix|Workill give the url when I post it
20:34.27Nefuhok
20:37.19Zanix|Work$this->_tpldata['.'][0]['THEME_PATH']    still might need to be edited
20:37.22Zanix|Workhmmm
20:44.39Zanix|Workwait
20:44.41Zanix|Workno it wont
21:18.37Harshmagegrrr....I have to do technical documentation....
21:19.46Zanix|Workewww
21:19.52Zanix|WorkNefuh: try this
21:19.52Zanix|Workhttp://www.wowroster.net/pastebin/index.php?show=259
21:20.10Zanix|Workcopy from the text box near the bottom of the page
21:22.43Nefuhawesome it seems to work
21:25.35Zanix|Worknice
21:25.43Zanix|WorkI went over your changes
21:25.59Zanix|Workand figured out where the paths needed to be fixed
21:27.24NefuhThank you for the changes, one more file that must not be edited to integration ;)
21:27.44Zanix|Workindeed
21:27.55Zanix|Workand it probably fixed rosterdf as well
21:28.00Zanix|Workill commit this soon
21:28.48Zanix|WorkI would check the news and armorysync addons just to be sure
21:31.55NefuhIs it planned to make the configuration panel integrate into the template? Now is just made with echo in rostercp.php? I asked because i changed it from 3-column to 2-column.
21:32.33Zanix|Workprobably someday
21:32.50Zanix|Worktemplates were added in after rostercp was mostly finalized
21:33.15Nefuhok
21:33.16Zanix|Workif you can convert the rostercp into a template, by all means go for it
21:33.28Nefuhi can try ;)
21:33.30Zanix|WorkI dont think it would be too hard
21:33.36Zanix|Workjust time consuming
21:34.08Nefuhtime is not the problem ;)
21:43.20Zanix|Workfor me it is
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21:51.12Nefuhdone ;)
22:03.16Zanix|Workdone?
22:03.58Nefuhintegrate the configuration panel into the template
22:06.50Zanix|Workalready? the whole thing?
22:06.55Zanix|Workor just the main design?
22:07.08Nefuhonly the echo statement
22:07.12Zanix|Workah
22:07.24Zanix|Workthats a good start though
22:07.47Zanix|WorkI want to move all the output of the config api into a template
22:07.50Zanix|Worksomeday
22:09.54Nefuhyeah but for the com_wowroster i edited from the 3-column display to 2-column (better for the Joomla Template) so i must add rostercp.php so i only need the template file (quite smaller = faster install of the component)
22:11.16Zanix|Workindeed
22:11.40Zanix|Workmaybe ill work on it soon
22:11.49Zanix|Workgot other things for roster to work on though
22:13.58NefuhStill many things are to be done up to the final release?
22:27.43Zanix|Worka bit
22:29.25Zanix|Workhttp://www.wowroster.net/pastebin/index.php?show=260
22:34.18Nefuhyeah still a bit ;) The interesting part for me is the discussion about to install the basic addons after ran the installer. On the German page we had have so many people who asked why they see no icons
22:35.45Harshmagefracking....Anyone use Adobe After Effects CS3?
23:14.43HarshmageRecite the Mantra! "I hate Adobe products!  I hate Adobe products!"
23:31.17Zanix|Work"I hate Adobe products!"
23:31.20Zanix|Worklol

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