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| 07:02.04 | lhunath | well. just uploaded juu 0.9.15 - hope it doesn't break badly cuz I'm leaving on a two week holiday |
| 07:02.26 | lhunath | should fix several mac issues at least |
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| 08:05.29 | ds001 | woot jUU autodetected wow on the mac :) |
| 08:08.32 | ds001 | still can't find how to 'right click to modify' on the Mac :D |
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| 15:25.11 | Zanix|Work | morning everyone |
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| 16:22.36 | ds001 | good morning all.. |
| 16:30.18 | PleegWat | hi |
| 16:36.22 | Zanix|Work | hi DS and PleegWat |
| 16:48.41 | PleegWat | I've got all my points for my BSc :) |
| 17:08.22 | Zanix|Work | what is that? |
| 17:09.50 | PleegWat | Uni study |
| 17:10.06 | PleegWat | bachelor degree |
| 17:10.12 | Harshmage | nice! |
| 17:10.17 | PleegWat | ya |
| 17:10.40 | PleegWat | Now all that separates me from the degree is paperwork |
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| 17:28.41 | Zanix|Work | thats awesome |
| 17:28.56 | Zanix|Work | congrats PleegWat |
| 17:30.39 | PleegWat | Got a second talk for a job tomorrow |
| 17:30.58 | PleegWat | Well, actually first talk for that job |
| 17:31.11 | PleegWat | but two weeks ago I was there for a different job, |
| 17:31.33 | PleegWat | and they wanted to talk with me for this job (which was only open internally) because it'd probably fit better |
| 17:31.51 | PleegWat | Main downside of it is a 2h commute |
| 17:41.11 | Zanix|Work | ouch |
| 17:41.18 | Zanix|Work | that would kinda suck |
| 17:47.42 | PleegWat | I'm planning to move asap if I get the job |
| 17:47.55 | PleegWat | which reminds me, I need to look at the house prices there |
| 17:53.38 | Zanix|Work | good idea |
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| 18:04.49 | Harshmage | morning anax |
| 18:05.18 | Zanix|Work | hi anax |
| 18:09.36 | anax | good morning guys |
| 18:09.41 | anax | hows it going today |
| 18:11.15 | Harshmage | one of my servers is close to exploding, I've got faculty wanting to roll back the java client to version 5, and I'm close to going nuts. |
| 18:13.33 | anax | yeah well all files edited by a suso user are being set to 640 on our farm |
| 18:13.40 | anax | im also going nuts |
| 18:14.04 | anax | should have it fixed though in the next 5 - 10 mins |
| 18:14.14 | anax | but man peeps are going crazy |
| 18:14.28 | Zanix|Work | lol |
| 18:16.56 | Zanix|Work | sounds like fun |
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| 18:37.36 | Adric | hey all |
| 18:39.25 | Zanix|Work | hi Adric |
| 18:40.18 | Adric | how is everyone |
| 18:40.48 | Adric | and zanix, what do you do |
| 18:40.51 | ds001 | stressed.. monday... need lunch... |
| 18:40.55 | Adric | lol |
| 18:41.27 | Adric | lol |
| 18:42.33 | dreamss | [11:13] <fn'anax> yeah well all files edited by a suso user are being set to 640 on our farm |
| 18:42.46 | Adric | what? |
| 18:42.50 | dreamss | how about putting the webserver on the same group as the files |
| 18:42.52 | dreamss | :P |
| 18:43.58 | anax | dreamss it is a setting that was made incorrectly in the server conf just fixed it though |
| 18:44.10 | dreamss | nice |
| 18:46.10 | Adric | lol |
| 18:49.50 | Zanix|Work | I work at an auction company |
| 18:50.03 | Adric | cool |
| 18:50.17 | Zanix|Work | I update their site, work on their computer, etc... |
| 18:50.23 | Adric | lol |
| 18:50.28 | Adric | fun all around, eh? |
| 18:50.31 | Zanix|Work | kinda |
| 18:50.42 | Harshmage | notice he said "computer". Not plural |
| 18:50.45 | Zanix|Work | I need to get the hang of it so I can do other stuff while Im at work |
| 18:50.56 | Zanix|Work | oh, lol, I did mean computerS |
| 18:51.00 | Harshmage | haha |
| 18:51.08 | anax | lol |
| 18:59.31 | Zanix|Work | YAY |
| 18:59.33 | Zanix|Work | LUNCH! |
| 18:59.36 | Zanix|Work | IM OUSTA |
| 19:00.20 | anax | lunch already.... |
| 19:00.29 | Adric | lol |
| 19:00.33 | anax | what are you going to eat im getting hungry |
| 19:03.16 | anax | Adric what do you do? did you get a webdesign/image job? |
| 19:10.52 | Adric | i freelance that |
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| 19:11.19 | anax | cool |
| 19:11.22 | Adric | i also develope logos for businesses, as well as ads for newspapers |
| 19:11.32 | Adric | but i prefer web interface design |
| 19:11.34 | anax | how long does it take you to build a new site theme? |
| 19:11.45 | Adric | depends what it is for |
| 19:11.45 | anax | or modify existing ones? |
| 19:12.24 | anax | wowroster.net for instance maybe using the same design but wupdating it to use new features which could also allow color switching via css |
| 19:12.26 | Adric | the current theme im using on midnigthtcartel.com was about 2 weeks of planning and drafting, and then about 2 days to fully impliment it |
| 19:12.59 | Adric | it took longer than usual as i switched the site to tableless |
| 19:13.27 | Adric | i much prefer that style now, but the first time you do a tableless design it is beyond complicated |
| 19:14.33 | anax | yeah we do have a tabless design template that we can use |
| 19:14.52 | anax | but to use it it still would not be fully tabless due to alot of the core not being tabless |
| 19:15.31 | anax | you maybe able to view it from your wowroster.net account preffrances by changing the themes |
| 19:15.50 | anax | but Zanix and I were talking about updating our theme and still are un decided |
| 19:16.26 | anax | more or less now tryin to get a few ideas to either have asomeone design us one or just modify what we have to work with |
| 19:16.33 | Adric | lol, that blue has to go, the site looks nothing like your product |
| 19:16.48 | Adric | you could easily modify what you currently have |
| 19:16.49 | anax | I wanted to ask you just because oyu do such good work |
| 19:16.56 | Adric | thanks |
| 19:17.30 | anax | take allok at this style |
| 19:17.33 | anax | http://treasurecoastdesigns.com/index.php?prevtheme=TCD_StyleSwitch |
| 19:17.41 | anax | lol ds you make me blush |
| 19:21.37 | Adric | LOL |
| 19:22.31 | Adric | ehh, im sorry but i hate dragonfly or whatever... it is so busy interms of content... who ever decided you needed to see everything on one page should be shot |
| 19:24.06 | Adric | BUT THAT THEME ISNT BAD |
| 19:24.20 | Adric | sorry for the caps... playing Myst Online... caps is auto run |
| 19:24.44 | dreamss | http://ninjalooters.info/ |
| 19:24.53 | dreamss | i like mine |
| 19:24.54 | dreamss | simple |
| 19:30.22 | anax | well one of the ideas of chaning our theme is to clean up alot of the blocks |
| 19:30.29 | anax | I know we can take alot of the block code and add other places |
| 19:30.41 | anax | and the search into the header |
| 19:31.35 | anax | the idea to look at in the theme i posted is the color changer and size switcher of the theme |
| 19:32.12 | anax | and the dhtml menu should or will also be added into our new theme if we decide to head down this road |
| 19:32.45 | Adric | yeah, but that is the problem with the colour switcher... people are here to look at your content, not play with the colours |
| 19:33.06 | anax | yeah very true... so very true |
| 19:33.47 | anax | and which is why what we have works well as is |
| 19:33.59 | Adric | yeah, but it looks terrible |
| 19:34.07 | anax | but in your eyes needs a color change to match the product |
| 19:34.13 | Adric | yeah |
| 19:34.20 | Adric | needs to go darker, light text |
| 19:34.28 | Adric | use some textures |
| 19:45.13 | Adric | but yeah, in my eyes, it looks deplorable |
| 19:45.42 | Adric | when you do a redo, don't try to make it look exactly like anything else, give it your own style |
| 19:46.09 | Adric | my site, doesnt look exactly like a wow site, but it hints to it thru its use of graphics |
| 19:46.34 | PleegWat | We've been slowly doing the roster itself more tableless. THe borders still use tables though |
| 19:46.55 | PleegWat | plus some stuff uses tables that should use tables |
| 19:46.58 | PleegWat | cause it's tabular data |
| 19:47.02 | Adric | yeah |
| 19:47.22 | Adric | the borders could be done tableless, but it is easier to use tables |
| 19:47.44 | Adric | the only problem with tabless though, is the css file becomes a book |
| 19:47.53 | Adric | *tableless |
| 19:48.03 | PleegWat | I can imagine |
| 19:48.13 | Adric | you should see the phpbb3 stylesheet |
| 19:48.30 | PleegWat | how many ten thousand lines? |
| 19:48.31 | Adric | it is 12 different files, and like a total of 5000 lines |
| 19:48.46 | Adric | yeah, its huge |
| 19:48.58 | Adric | and while i understand why they did it, it is a bit confusing |
| 19:49.09 | Adric | like the body tag is defined in 4 different files |
| 19:49.09 | PleegWat | I think roster's 1k or so |
| 19:49.32 | Adric | it still loads quick so it doesnt matter, but editing it is a massive headache |
| 19:49.55 | PleegWat | quick on the server or client? |
| 19:50.12 | Adric | both it seems |
| 19:50.55 | PleegWat | Anyway most of roster is tableless. The main stuff that isn't are: |
| 19:50.56 | PleegWat | - menu |
| 19:50.59 | PleegWat | -borders |
| 19:51.11 | Adric | menu could easily become tableless |
| 19:51.13 | PleegWat | rostercp side columns, now that I think of it |
| 19:51.24 | Adric | that could be done tableless also |
| 19:51.33 | PleegWat | I know about those |
| 19:51.34 | Adric | and i was wondering about the borders also |
| 19:52.04 | PleegWat | The roster config page (1.8 version) uses tables in some situations. You probably haven't seen it yet. |
| 19:52.31 | Adric | you would loose the diagional edges, but it would be so easy to just do like 3 divs around it, outer div would be 2px grey, mid div 1px gold, inner div 2px grey |
| 19:52.46 | Adric | then the text inside |
| 19:52.58 | Adric | yeah, ive seen the config page, just havent looked at it much |
| 19:53.27 | PleegWat | The 1.8 one uses tables for aligning config blocks |
| 19:53.35 | Adric | yeah, just float them |
| 19:54.41 | Adric | also, not sure if you would be able to do this, but my biggest complaint, and my guilds, is the user note/officer note/rank completely making each block of members completely different sizes... why not just make them the same width |
| 19:55.34 | Adric | wait... last online? where are you pulling that info from? the armoury? |
| 19:55.47 | PleegWat | GP returns it |
| 19:56.13 | Adric | ok, so it does, but someones says like 25 seconds ago... i was like.. umm |
| 19:56.15 | PleegWat | The note columns are not printed in full but show as an icon with popup, but that's in 1.7.3 as well |
| 19:56.34 | PleegWat | yeah, it needs to be fixed. It offsets from the last GP update. |
| 19:56.56 | Adric | ahh, ok, not a big one though... I WANT A BETA |
| 19:56.58 | Adric | lol |
| 19:57.20 | anax | hehe |
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| 20:23.03 | Zanix|Work | hiya |
| 20:23.09 | Adric | ok, this is anoying |
| 20:23.09 | Zanix|Work | working alright? |
| 20:23.12 | Adric | so so |
| 20:23.19 | Zanix|Work | what is annoying? |
| 20:23.51 | Adric | what is a ctcp version...?? |
| 20:23.59 | Zanix|Work | oh |
| 20:24.04 | PleegWat | my client not behaving like i expect it to |
| 20:24.06 | PleegWat | i think |
| 20:24.25 | PleegWat | it's a call, some clients reply with their name/version |
| 20:24.29 | Adric | ahh |
| 20:24.55 | Adric | ok, now on my auto connect list, how do i connect to 2 chanels? #channel1 #channel2 |
| 20:25.02 | Adric | like a , between, or a ; |
| 20:25.18 | PleegWat | But I think it sent "msg Adric CTCP VERSION" instead of "CTCP Adric VERSION", from the feedback I got on this side |
| 20:25.26 | PleegWat | what client? |
| 20:25.36 | Adric | xhat |
| 20:25.39 | Adric | xchat* |
| 20:26.16 | PleegWat | I right-click the channel name and check "Auto join on connect" |
| 20:26.29 | PleegWat | use /join to join for the first time |
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| 20:52.16 | Zanix|Work | stupid home computer |
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| 20:52.59 | PleegWat | quite so |
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| 20:53.32 | s3cur17y | Hey, can i customize wowroster |
| 20:53.56 | anax | how so? |
| 20:54.04 | PleegWat | yes, you can customize it |
| 20:54.09 | PleegWat | but you'll have to be more specific |
| 20:54.14 | anax | yes you could as long as you do not break the licence rules |
| 20:56.20 | s3cur17y | the layout |
| 21:01.08 | ds001 | am i disco? |
| 21:01.18 | ds001 | hmm.. woot.. guess not :) |
| 21:04.49 | Zanix|Work | sure, you can, there isnt any templates though |
| 21:05.01 | Zanix|Work | the display code is written in the...code |
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| 23:04.16 | Harshmage | I need a bloody time traveling machine thingo |
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| 23:47.54 | anax | lol me too |
| 23:48.00 | anax | let me know when you find one |
| 23:48.49 | Zanix|Work | I want to use it after |
| 23:48.53 | Zanix|Work | you guys are done |