| 02:25.03 | Anaxent_Work | well guys it is time for me to head home to my 4 day vacation |
| 02:25.18 | Anaxent_Work | later |
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| 12:38.27 | arcaneus | Morning, Got a quest. I remember before BC release, when installing Roster, I had to change permissions of folders and files to 777. I cant find these folder/file names in the forums, can you help me out please? |
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| 16:24.29 | lhunath | ew. 777 |
| 16:25.07 | lhunath | the idiot's way of turning linux into windows |
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| 17:22.30 | p33ps | can i ask a question? |
| 18:12.20 | PleegWat | I think the siggen save dir needs 777 |
| 18:13.00 | PleegWat | The conf file needs to be precreated and set to 777, but if you don't there's an option to upload it, and it should ALWAYS be set back afterward |
| 18:16.27 | lhunath | nothing needs 777 |
| 18:16.40 | lhunath | it needs write permission for apache |
| 18:16.57 | lhunath | so it needs chown :apache and chmod g+w |
| 18:18.09 | lhunath | why would you even 777 a file? |
| 18:18.14 | PleegWat | Well, generally just chmod 666 is recommended |
| 18:18.16 | lhunath | 666, ok, but executable bit? |
| 18:18.21 | PleegWat | and we all know what 666 means |
| 18:18.24 | lhunath | for dirs yeah |
| 18:18.42 | lhunath | but I guess it's easier to tell people that don't understand linux permissions to just 777 everything |
| 18:18.48 | PleegWat | guess so |
| 18:19.00 | lhunath | then they won't be in your irc channel wondering what they did wrong ;p |
| 18:19.05 | PleegWat | The conf file needs either the chown or chmod 666, but ONLY DURING INSTALL |
| 18:19.22 | PleegWat | the siggen save dir needs chown or the 777 |
| 18:19.52 | lhunath | yeah and the uniadmin addons dir etc need write permission too |
| 18:20.03 | PleegWat | yeah |
| 18:20.28 | PleegWat | and in R2 the config dir will need write permission, because it will use files rather than the DB for config storage |
| 18:20.42 | lhunath | should just say it like that; files x y z need write permission for the GID of your webserver process |
| 18:21.17 | PleegWat | I'm not even sure you can chown via ftp |
| 18:21.23 | lhunath | ew. ftp |
| 18:21.33 | PleegWat | I don't think you get shell access on shared hosting |
| 18:21.41 | PleegWat | Meh, FTP beats windows filesharing |
| 18:21.50 | lhunath | barely |
| 18:21.55 | lhunath | well |
| 18:22.01 | lhunath | sigh. it's all crap ;P |
| 18:22.30 | PleegWat | It's like the tortoise and the hare, you're far superior to both? |
| 18:22.46 | lhunath | I guess you just have to live with the fact that 99% of your users use free web storage |
| 18:23.37 | PleegWat | Well, rarely free. I haven't seen any free ones that give enough storage, php4, and mysql4+ |
| 18:23.54 | PleegWat | or the mysql3.whatever roster can be adapted to being compatible with |
| 18:24.22 | PleegWat | R2 will require php5+, mysql4.1+, and mysqli |
| 18:25.44 | PleegWat | Roster 1x contains a lot functions that are weak substitutes for stuff php5 does native |
| 18:27.23 | lhunath | That's good. |
| 18:27.36 | lhunath | is R2 OO? |
| 18:28.05 | PleegWat | So far all of R2's libs are OO, php5 style. |
| 18:29.07 | PleegWat | and, like I hinted earlier, it has file-based config, so the framework should be able to run without installation. |
| 18:29.24 | PleegWat | That means we won't need separate installers for the main roster and addons, like 1.8 has |
| 18:35.40 | lhunath | that's nice. |
| 18:38.48 | dreamss | u cant get free hosting, but im sure u can get it cheap |
| 18:41.07 | PleegWat | well, I don't pay for my site to be hosted |
| 18:41.42 | PleegWat | I've had it at a friend's home server for a while, and since I started on the dev team I've been running a home server |
| 18:50.52 | lhunath | plenty of decent free hosts out there |
| 18:51.06 | lhunath | just hard to find; the crap hosts are everywhere |
| 18:59.21 | dreamss | my bud from curse gaming gave webspace |
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| 20:13.00 | Kinban | hello... anyone around? |
| 20:15.15 | Mathos | yup |
| 20:16.25 | Kinban | sitting here trying to figure out how to get the roster on the computer for a new website I'm trying to put together... you familiar with it and how to install? |
| 20:17.37 | Mathos | tbh, it is extremely simple for sumbuddy with a little expertise with php and mysql |
| 20:18.06 | Mathos | so the best thing todo is to read the manual and get started |
| 20:18.26 | Kinban | I have been reading it.... |
| 20:18.51 | Kinban | I have a question though... how can I find out if the site I want to use supports php? |
| 20:20.22 | Mathos | easy |
| 20:20.27 | Mathos | make a test.php |
| 20:20.46 | Mathos | <? $test = "Hello World"; echo $test; ?> |
| 20:20.56 | Kinban | how do you do that? (I appreciate the help, I'm a beginner at this stuff) |
| 20:21.23 | Mathos | just put it up |
| 20:21.31 | ds001 | or call <?php phpinfo(); ?> |
| 20:22.15 | Mathos | yeah |
| 20:22.28 | Mathos | that gets you basicly all the requirements on one page |
| 20:22.35 | Mathos | or rather, the things that the site supports |
| 20:22.46 | Mathos | verify that output against the req's in the manual |
| 20:23.16 | Kinban | hmmm, wow this may be simple to those that understand the jargon LOL but I'm feelign pretty stupid HAHA, ok, let me try all that and see if I can figure it out |
| 20:27.49 | Mathos | just put a file in the root |
| 20:27.53 | Mathos | phpinfo.php |
| 20:27.58 | Mathos | the text in that file is: |
| 20:28.06 | Mathos | <?php phpinfo(); ?> |
| 20:30.08 | Mathos | then just call it with the URL to your web |
| 20:30.19 | Mathos | http://weburl/phpinfo.php |
| 20:39.32 | Kinban | I can't for the life of me figure out how to get this onto the website |
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