| 00:15.15 | Harshmage | oh, and uploading to M$ sucks too. |
| 00:16.11 | Zeryl | :( |
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| 01:29.08 | lhunath | zanix: I know but the installation should be successful in that case ;p |
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| 02:33.18 | lhunath | zanix: |
| 02:33.18 | lhunath | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:33.21 | lhunath | com/roster/uniadmin/addon_zips/http://files.wowace.com/XLootMonitor/XLootMonitor.zip" toc="20003" full_path="0" notes="A live monitor of loot picked up by yourself and your group"> |
| 02:33.33 | lhunath | filename= thingy's bugged |
| 02:33.38 | Zanix | uh oh |
| 02:33.46 | Zanix | what version of UA? |
| 02:33.58 | lhunath | this is from your newest one from on wowroster.net |
| 02:34.02 | Zanix | ooh |
| 02:34.14 | Zanix | the changes in the addon system |
| 02:34.20 | lhunath | indeed |
| 02:34.27 | Zanix | you didnt read the release notes huh? |
| 02:34.34 | lhunath | nope :) |
| 02:34.39 | Zanix | :) |
| 02:34.43 | Zanix | that be yer problem |
| 02:34.50 | lhunath | I take it my db's corrupt |
| 02:34.50 | Zanix | no |
| 02:34.50 | Zanix | its fine |
| 02:35.00 | lhunath | lemme read |
| 02:35.01 | Zanix | either remove all addons and reupload |
| 02:35.07 | Zanix | or update the addons |
| 02:35.13 | lhunath | :) |
| 02:35.15 | Zanix | UA stores the addons locally now |
| 02:35.23 | lhunath | right |
| 02:35.26 | lhunath | makes sense |
| 02:35.29 | lhunath | then |
| 02:35.30 | Zanix | and doesnt point the download to wowace |
| 02:35.34 | Zanix | for version controll |
| 02:35.39 | lhunath | yeah |
| 02:35.44 | Zanix | I had quite a few messages about it |
| 02:35.58 | lhunath | anyways; I'm adding a feature to jUU to check Ace SVN as well as uniadmin |
| 02:36.15 | Zanix | cool |
| 02:36.17 | lhunath | togglable, of course |
| 02:36.29 | Zanix | adding in some of the WoWAce Updater abilities? |
| 02:36.43 | lhunath | pretty much all of its abilities |
| 02:36.51 | lhunath | listing all wowace addons |
| 02:36.59 | lhunath | even showing diffs between updates |
| 02:37.06 | lhunath | per file |
| 02:37.16 | Zanix | sweet |
| 02:37.17 | lhunath | for those that care :P |
| 02:39.07 | lhunath | +-100 addons is a pain to delete one by one :D |
| 02:40.51 | Zanix | hehe |
| 02:40.53 | lhunath | can I use ADDVARVAL3 for guild homepage url and ADDVARVAL4 for guild forum url? |
| 02:41.01 | lhunath | or are those reserved for something else? |
| 02:41.06 | lhunath | in UU |
| 02:41.17 | Zanix | Well, others might use them for other things |
| 02:41.19 | lhunath | or ADDURL4 even |
| 02:41.23 | lhunath | right |
| 02:41.34 | lhunath | but they're not officially assigned to anything |
| 02:41.36 | Zanix | no |
| 02:41.39 | Zanix | they are not |
| 02:41.40 | lhunath | goody |
| 02:41.53 | lhunath | what about ADDVARNAME1? it seems to be 'username' |
| 02:42.38 | lhunath | username and password .. are those used for something? |
| 02:45.31 | Zanix | yes |
| 02:45.37 | Zanix | they most definatly are |
| 02:45.45 | Zanix | username and password obviously |
| 02:45.58 | Zanix | all they are is additional variable to pass via GET |
| 02:46.04 | lhunath | I wasn't aware of any authentication |
| 02:46.12 | Zanix | rpgo uses it |
| 02:46.20 | Zanix | roster uses it for guild uploads |
| 02:46.53 | lhunath | oh! can I use it to upload guild data? I've been wondering how to get that implemented |
| 02:48.30 | Zanix | in the password field enter your roster admin pass |
| 03:02.56 | lhunath | what about the username field? |
| 03:03.39 | lhunath | and I assume I just enable those fields and they'll get set along with the other settings when I do a OPERATION=GETSETTINGS? |
| 03:04.11 | lhunath | What's the ADDURL1CH for anyways? It's an on/off value thingy. |
| 03:07.20 | Zanix | yeah, its just to enable/disable the additonal upload urls |
| 03:07.42 | lhunath | oh; those are additional upload urls |
| 03:07.57 | lhunath | so I shouldn't use them for homepage/forum |
| 03:08.02 | Zanix | nope |
| 03:08.09 | Zanix | Options: This area houses several handy options. |
| 03:08.09 | Zanix | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:08.10 | Zanix | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:08.10 | Zanix | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:08.10 | Zanix | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:08.15 | Zanix | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:08.18 | Zanix | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:08.21 | Zanix | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:08.24 | Zanix | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:08.27 | Zanix | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:08.30 | Zanix | ah crap |
| 03:08.37 | Zanix | im sorry |
| 03:40.06 | lhunath | you should still send the <addons></addons> tag even when there's no addons in the db |
| 03:40.23 | lhunath | an empty document's invalid XML as it has no root element :) |
| 04:06.19 | Zanix | oh, I didnt know that |
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| 15:53.30 | Anaxent_w | good morning |
| 16:11.09 | Harshmage | nah...it's more of a "don't fall over from lack of caffeine" morning.... |
| 16:22.36 | Anaxent_w | yeah I grabed my coffee this morning though |
| 17:02.06 | Zeryl | I don't know how long digg will stay open after one of their stories yesterday |
| 17:03.38 | Harshmage | oh? |
| 17:04.04 | Zeryl | there was an article about some 16 yr old in jersey that had taken nude and non-nude photos of herself, and sent them to someone who re-distributed them |
| 17:04.13 | Zeryl | well, they have links all over the comments now of both sets of pictures |
| 17:04.34 | Zeryl | I clicked the wrong link first :( |
| 17:04.53 | Zeryl | But I don'ot think I should have to worry if i'm gonna get arrested because of some dumb ass posting links |
| 17:05.14 | Zeryl | I was wanting to see what she looked like, not what she was like nude (for one, i don't need to go to jail over something like that) |
| 17:06.20 | Zeryl | adn thanks to pre-fetching, i'm sure quite a few people got the links on accident as well |
| 17:06.26 | Zeryl | so I really hope something is done about it |
| 17:12.39 | Zeryl | anyway, ya, that's my story, and I feel retarded for it now, but ya. |
| 17:12.45 | Zeryl | so how's the stuff w/ M$ going harsh? |
| 17:23.53 | ds001 | Yay.. Friday! -- and good morning :D |
| 17:24.52 | Zeryl | sup ds |
| 17:26.14 | ds001 | quad shot mocha...mmmm |
| 17:27.00 | ds001 | boss man is going out of town for two weeks.. woo.. party at CPS. |
| 17:27.25 | Zeryl | hehe |
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| 17:59.28 | Harshmage | I finished uploading the package stuff to them last night...all 1.8 gig....fracking took forever... |
| 18:02.06 | Zeryl | ewww |
| 18:02.09 | Zeryl | 1.8gb of what? |
| 18:03.08 | Harshmage | Adobe CS2.. |
| 18:03.22 | Zeryl | haha, you uploaded adobe cs2 to them!? |
| 18:03.59 | Harshmage | We use a network appliation delivery system called Softgrid....like Citrix, but without the dumb-ness, and faster. |
| 18:04.11 | Zeryl | ahhh |
| 18:04.54 | Harshmage | so CS2 was basically zipped up in its own encrypted package... |
| 18:05.07 | Zeryl | cool |
| 18:06.08 | Zeryl | hrmm, i see softgrid, interesting |
| 18:06.15 | Harshmage | But the fun thing about Softgrid is (and a difference from other Citrx-like environments), it sends only the parts of the application you NEED to run it. So you only NEED 27% of Photoshop to run and open a file |
| 18:06.59 | Zeryl | wow, cool |
| 18:07.07 | Zeryl | that is really freakin cool |
| 18:07.52 | Zeryl | wonder what wow needs |
| 18:07.53 | Zeryl | heh |
| 18:08.03 | Harshmage | Ties in directly with AD (hence why I hate AD), so we can assign classes to specific software... |
| 18:08.08 | Harshmage | and...a lot. |
| 18:08.25 | Harshmage | but I can't sequence it..it's over 5 gig now |
| 18:08.58 | Harshmage | and addons aren't customizable...since WoW won't let you redirect where all the Addons are loaded |
| 18:09.33 | Zeryl | hrmmm |
| 18:09.37 | Zeryl | I think you COULD redirect it |
| 18:10.55 | Zeryl | you'd have to use that thingie microsoft has to allow you to map a drive to a driectory |
| 18:10.56 | Zeryl | or something like that |
| 18:10.56 | Zeryl | I wonder if I should push our company to look into this |
| 18:12.01 | Harshmage | only downside is that M$ bought out Softricity..and it was a major expence... |
| 18:13.19 | Zeryl | so do you guys use it for the labs or what? |
| 18:13.27 | Zeryl | beacuse I don't think you'd use it for student pc's |
| 18:14.31 | Harshmage | oh no, we do...it's how students recive software now...and how we secured the desktops themselves...They're all just plain old Users now, and not Power Users |
| 18:17.14 | Harshmage | I'd offer to give a tour, but I bet it's a bit of a drive for you Zeryl |
| 18:20.18 | Anaxent_w | haha yeah I bet it would be |
| 18:20.18 | Zeryl | are these like "on-site" students, or are you meaning in the classroom? because I don't know that I'd let any university i went to do that to my computer, lol |
| 18:20.33 | Anaxent_w | unless he takes my jov offer I give him every week |
| 18:20.40 | Anaxent_w | jov = job |
| 18:20.44 | Zeryl | you've only given it to me once, lol |
| 18:20.50 | Anaxent_w | haha |
| 18:20.55 | Anaxent_w | well |
| 18:20.59 | Anaxent_w | keep it in mind |
| 18:21.01 | Anaxent_w | haha |
| 18:21.54 | Zeryl | zend is releasing a package for access to google apis! |
| 18:23.26 | Anaxent_w | oh really |
| 18:23.39 | Anaxent_w | google has some nice api's these days |
| 18:24.49 | Harshmage | Yeah, these are all the computers on the campus...no student is "assigned" a computer...roaming profiles are good... |
| 18:25.02 | Zeryl | ok, that makes much more sense |
| 18:25.08 | Zeryl | I thought you meant like student computers as in personal computers |
| 18:26.18 | Harshmage | oh no....that would also eat bandwidth like mad.... |
| 18:26.20 | Zeryl | A man has been taken to hospital in Australia after his penis and groin got caught in the machinery at a saw mill. |
| 18:26.27 | Zeryl | ya, I know, heh |
| 18:26.29 | Zeryl | hehe* |
| 18:26.57 | Zeryl | we're currently at 10gb backbone here (router to router), and it is even slowing down |
| 18:28.00 | Zeryl | icould only imagine what would happen with this kind of virtualization |
| 18:28.29 | Zeryl | now, say i used an app, does that app's "information" stay on my pc, or does it get deleted, and next time I open the app, it re-downloads? |
| 18:29.23 | Anaxent_w | your data gets saved to your profile |
| 18:29.36 | Anaxent_w | which is accessed by any maching on the roaming network |
| 18:29.39 | Zeryl | i know that's true with a roaming profile, but I'm talking about this smartgrid thing |
| 18:29.41 | Anaxent_w | machine* |
| 18:30.30 | Harshmage | no, it'll cache the files...it's smart... So say we both have permissions for Photoshop. I sit down, and I just open a file, and save it. That's 27% of the app. You sit down, and you're a power user. Every tool in the book and you use it. It brings down just THOSE parts of the app, and adds to what was in the cache. |
| 18:30.50 | Zeryl | neat |
| 18:31.01 | Harshmage | Any changes to the app, like prefs, get saved in an XML format file to your roaming profile |
| 18:31.28 | Zeryl | that's really neat |
| 18:31.36 | Zeryl | I bet it works better than altiris too |
| 18:31.53 | Harshmage | we didn't even consider Altiris. |
| 18:32.13 | Zeryl | I wonder if the company i work for looked at this smartgrid thing |
| 18:34.15 | Harshmage | Softgrid was first done just a few years ago. we're only at verson 4.1(.0.56) |
| 18:34.34 | Zeryl | they bought less than a year ago ;) |
| 18:34.39 | Zeryl | so well within the time |
| 18:36.06 | Harshmage | ahh....so they might have blown the money without knowing about it. or if they did, the price tag wasn't as good as they liked |
| 18:38.09 | Harshmage | we spent about .5 mil on a 5 year license |
| 18:38.22 | Harshmage | and super-level support |
| 18:38.32 | Harshmage | with M$ and Dell |
| 18:43.49 | Zeryl | well, we've got so much with M$ already, i'm sure it would have been cheaper than that |
| 18:44.50 | Zeryl | but ya, i doubt they even looked at it |
| 18:44.57 | Zeryl | knwoign the team that bought the software |
| 18:45.24 | Harshmage | well, we had to buy hardware for it....couldn't just use the old crap we had... |
| 18:45.30 | Zeryl | hehe |
| 18:46.27 | Harshmage | the hardware and the support contract were a LOT of money. |
| 18:47.13 | Zeryl | I wish i had half the money this company spends on it per year |
| 18:47.18 | Zeryl | I would be rich |
| 18:47.21 | Zeryl | and never have to work again |
| 18:48.30 | Zeryl | hell, even if I just had the money that they've blown on failed projects! |
| 18:49.42 | Harshmage | Ahh, yeah....we don't have failed project...we have projects that got sent to the back-back-back burner |
| 18:50.19 | Zeryl | we have those too ;P |
| 18:51.30 | Harshmage | at least you don't have to deal with faculty that expect support from home |
| 18:51.45 | Zeryl | you kidding |
| 18:51.50 | Zeryl | we have docs that believe that |
| 18:52.46 | Zeryl | and they also DO support people from home, and they have our desktop support people going to houses getting their pc's working.... |
| 18:55.39 | Harshmage | well, heck, I'll do that....but they'd better be payin me on the side... |
| 18:56.11 | Zeryl | hehe |
| 19:01.47 | Anaxent_w | lol "at least you don't have to deal with faculty that expect support from home" .... I do though |
| 19:03.36 | Zeryl | anax, is there a page of jobs at your work? |
| 19:03.43 | Zeryl | with open positions? |
| 19:05.08 | Zeryl | http://kinkygerlinky.blogspot.com/ |
| 19:05.14 | Zeryl | ohhhh, jessica beil |
| 19:05.17 | Zeryl | biel* |
| 19:05.34 | Zeryl | http://img466.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thumbs20070329223347ea2.jpg |
| 19:09.49 | Anaxent_w | only internally Zeryl |
| 19:09.53 | Zeryl | k |
| 19:09.55 | Zeryl | lol |
| 19:10.50 | Anaxent_w | this is what we currently have avaliable |
| 19:10.53 | Anaxent_w | Reseller Billing Support Representative |
| 19:10.55 | Anaxent_w | Technical Support Lead |
| 19:10.56 | Anaxent_w | Inbound Sales Representative |
| 19:10.58 | Anaxent_w | Outbound Sales Representative |
| 19:11.20 | Zeryl | hrmmm |
| 19:22.58 | Anaxent_w | but we do have our new dc oening soon |
| 19:23.06 | Anaxent_w | hoping in the next 2 weeks or so |
| 19:26.14 | Zeryl | ingenious - http://codewalkers.com/seecode/679.html |
| 19:29.45 | Anaxent_w | ah man yers that is |
| 19:30.38 | Zeryl | never would have thought to do that |
| 19:40.21 | Anaxent_w | we could use this in our dowload section |
| 19:40.32 | Anaxent_w | granted we are not really using alot of bandwith |
| 19:40.36 | Zeryl | true |
| 20:02.40 | Anaxent_w | could be great with the mirrors though |
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| 20:09.36 | Anaxent_w | I need to find a good word censor list |
| 20:09.54 | Anaxent_w | that I can run and insert all the word into the phpbb db |
| 20:10.03 | Anaxent_w | Id rather not have to type them all out |
| 20:44.35 | Zeryl | http://www.phpbbhacks.com/download/4332 |
| 20:45.53 | Anaxent_w | yeah I found that site but could not find a download |
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| 21:04.09 | Guest | hey |
| 21:04.36 | HalpmehWarrior | Any pro warriors out there? |
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| 21:37.43 | Adric | ZAN, YOU HERE? |
| 21:37.51 | Adric | sorry for the caps... |
| 21:38.21 | Zeryl | he's not, but i am, can i help you with something? |
| 21:39.11 | Adric | lol, my guild is terrorizing me for information on CN2.0... any news? it has been at 33% for about 4 months now |
| 21:39.21 | Zeryl | CN? |
| 21:39.26 | Adric | codename |
| 21:39.35 | Zeryl | ohhh, |
| 21:39.40 | Zeryl | heh, we're still several months out |
| 21:39.45 | Zeryl | we're finalizing the framework now |
| 21:39.53 | Adric | ok, cool |
| 21:40.25 | Zeryl | sorry, that's about all we have so far :( |
| 21:40.32 | Adric | lol |
| 21:40.34 | Adric | its ok |
| 21:40.53 | ds001 | Don't worry, I ask daily... "are you done yet." |
| 21:40.58 | Adric | lol |
| 21:41.01 | Zeryl | hehe |
| 21:42.38 | Adric | reason the guild is so interested is cause we have a 4 guild setup - Midnight Cartel(a), Midnight Coven(h), Midnight Corral(a - alts), Midnight Coven Jr. (h - alts) and everyone wants to have it all on one so we can keep track of it... |
| 21:45.28 | Adric | Ok, well, back to D'ni for me... see you guys later |
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| 21:58.03 | Anaxent_w | oh adric was here |
| 21:58.25 | Anaxent_w | I wonder if he knew DF can do that for him until R2 comes out |
| 21:59.27 | Anaxent_w | its too bad I missed him |
| 21:59.42 | Anaxent_w | he builds nice code |
| 22:09.33 | ds001 | I pride myself in the ability to mangle the nicest of code. |
| 22:16.47 | Anaxent_w | http://www.midnightcartel.com/community/portal.php this is adric's site |
| 22:16.51 | Anaxent_w | very well done |
| 22:22.52 | Anaxent_w | and his forums http://www.midnightcartel.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=210 |
| 22:23.29 | Anaxent_w | very nice avatars and roster stuff like skills |
| 22:23.34 | Anaxent_w | just needs links and tooltips |
| 22:28.40 | ds001 | he don't use MadeBy.. weak site. |
| 22:33.19 | Anaxent_w | haha |
| 22:37.28 | Zeryl | i don't use made by, does that make me a bad person/ |
| 22:37.46 | Zeryl | oh well |
| 22:38.21 | ds001 | I dont think I can hang out here anymore. |
| 22:38.51 | ds001 | people use WoWRoster just for MadeBy... I guess you didn't get that memo. |
| 22:39.04 | Anaxent_w | lol I got it |
| 22:39.10 | Anaxent_w | but thought it was just spam |
| 22:39.17 | Anaxent_w | so yeah it was nuked |
| 22:39.18 | Anaxent_w | lol |
| 22:43.39 | Zeryl | http://www.etherfast.ro/2007/03/31/picotux-the-smallest-linux-running-machine/ |
| 23:25.54 | Anaxent_w | well thats kind of cool |
| 23:26.01 | Zeryl | yes, very |
| 23:26.16 | Anaxent_w | very small indeed |
| 23:27.31 | Anaxent_w | if you ever decide to use a UI with wow check this one out http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info6311-MazzleUI.html |
| 23:27.34 | Anaxent_w | it rocks |
| 23:27.50 | Zeryl | i was around when mazzle was a wee lad, asking for help on the discord forums |
| 23:29.42 | Harshmage | heading home early... |
| 23:31.26 | Anaxent_w | yeah i downloaded it the other night and so far love it |
| 23:31.45 | Anaxent_w | granted I did make a few changes with some of the addons they use and then added a few new ones |
| 23:31.57 | Anaxent_w | but over all it auto sets up per res and per class |
| 23:32.03 | Zeryl | yep |
| 23:32.08 | Zeryl | he did a great job w/ it |
| 23:32.26 | Zeryl | -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- |
| 23:32.26 | Zeryl | Version: 3.12 |
| 23:32.26 | Zeryl | GCS d- s+:+ a-- C++++ UL++ P+ L++ E--- W++ N o K- w+ |
| 23:32.26 | Zeryl | O M V- PS+++ PE Y+ PGP t 5 X R++ tv+ b++ DI++ D+ |
| 23:32.26 | Zeryl | G e h++ r+++ y+++ |
| 23:32.28 | Zeryl | ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ |
| 23:33.57 | Anaxent_w | ah whats that? |
| 23:34.17 | Zeryl | geek code |
| 23:34.28 | Zeryl | OLD SCHOOL "how geek are you" type thing |
| 23:34.43 | Anaxent_w | huh.. well then you have any nerd code |
| 23:34.52 | Anaxent_w | that geek stuff is iver my head right now |
| 23:48.10 | Zeryl | hi zanix! |
| 23:48.16 | Zanix | hi |
| 23:49.30 | Zanix | yeah, that mazzle ui is quite nice |
| 23:49.47 | Zanix | and the geek code block make my head hurt |
| 23:50.30 | Anaxent_w | haha yeah Zanix mine too |
| 23:50.47 | *** join/#wowroster FoxyofAzgalor (n=FoxyofAz@dhcp3-66-244-107-188.stfd.smithvilledsl.net) |
| 23:50.48 | Zanix | so what is everyone up to? |
| 23:50.54 | FoxyofAzgalor | hiyas |
| 23:51.28 | FoxyofAzgalor | notta lotta, just posted an update to my addon, well a test file |
| 23:51.32 | Anaxent_w | what version of mysql was it that started using 'DEFAULT CHARSET=utf8' |
| 23:51.59 | Zanix | 4.1 i think |
| 23:52.08 | Zanix | maybe 4.0.33 or so |
| 23:52.12 | Zanix | Im not exactly sure |
| 23:52.51 | FoxyofAzgalor | 5.0 has it I know... |
| 23:54.09 | FoxyofAzgalor | Zeryl you about or at work? |
| 23:54.15 | Anaxent_w | ah man.... |
| 23:54.16 | Anaxent_w | we are using 4.0.16 - 4.0.27 |
| 23:54.16 | Anaxent_w | and this guy is having troubles installing rosterdf |
| 23:54.16 | Anaxent_w | which bugs me as DF is all utf-8 and had no torubles installing |
| 23:54.55 | FoxyofAzgalor | why is he using such an old version of mySql? |
| 23:54.57 | Zeryl | nope, i'm not here |
| 23:55.02 | FoxyofAzgalor | :-) |
| 23:56.32 | FoxyofAzgalor | The test script I posted is a haxed up copy of the local parser function... it works, well kinda... on some of the duplicates it's not updating the uploads column but inserting a new row... on the rest it is updating the column... I'm quite lost as to why |
| 23:56.50 | FoxyofAzgalor | http://www.wowroster.net/Forums/viewtopic/p=19250.html#19250 |
| 23:56.54 | Zeryl | ok, do this |
| 23:57.02 | Zeryl | get rid of the update |
| 23:57.08 | Zeryl | go to ONE query |
| 23:57.20 | Zeryl | I have the inserting, etc going at 2seconds for your 1.5mb file |
| 23:57.22 | Zeryl | no duplicates |
| 23:57.40 | FoxyofAzgalor | right and the insert works perfect |
| 23:57.52 | Zeryl | yep |
| 23:58.31 | FoxyofAzgalor | so remove the update and ? |
