irclog2html for #wowroster on 20061219

`03:25.10`	`Anaxent`	`whats up guys`
`04:28.06`	`*** join/#wowroster only1 (n=last@000-042-118.area3.spcsdns.net)`
`04:28.55`	`*** join/#wowroster lastone (n=last@000-042-118.area3.spcsdns.net)`
`04:29.33`	`Leagacyknight7`	`hey zanix`
`04:29.40`	`Zanix`	`hi`
`04:30.11`	`Leagacyknight7`	`check the site http://legionofdoomguild.net`
`04:30.35`	`Zanix`	`cool`
`04:30.51`	`Leagacyknight7`	`i added flash 15L3aughs 15O3ut 15L3oud`
`04:31.19`	`Leagacyknight7`	`are you busy`
`04:31.42`	`Zanix`	`i saw`
`04:31.54`	`Leagacyknight7`	`I wanted to ad phpmyadmin but don't know how?`
`04:32.07`	`Zanix`	`nice, you should edit that flash so the light will stay in one place if you click it`
`04:32.16`	`Leagacyknight7`	`I uploaded it but can't seem to make it work`
`04:32.23`	`Zanix`	`you have to install it`
`04:32.36`	`Zanix`	`read the instructions carefully, they are kinda tricky`
`04:32.42`	`Leagacyknight7`	`how I don't get the prompt`
`04:32.58`	`Leagacyknight7`	`can you get on vent?`
`04:33.00`	`Zanix`	`there's instructions in the zip file`
`04:33.05`	`Zanix`	`no, gonna eat soon`
`04:33.19`	`Leagacyknight7`	`I just got toco bell`
`04:33.50`	`Leagacyknight7`	`do you recomment phpnuke or phpmyadmin`
`04:34.10`	`Leagacyknight7`	`I want to add a forum with email like your site`
`04:36.21`	`Zanix`	`phpmyadmin is for database management`
`04:36.30`	`Zanix`	`it is not forum software`
`04:36.34`	`Zanix`	`I use dragonfly CMs`
`04:37.48`	`Anaxent`	`whats up Zanix`
`04:37.58`	`Leagacyknight7`	`how about nuke you recomment`
`04:37.59`	`Zanix`	`gonna eat in two seconds`
`04:38.02`	`Leagacyknight7`	`recommend`
`04:38.05`	`Zanix`	`i hate nuke`
`04:38.11`	`Anaxent`	`cool my gf bring something home`
`04:38.17`	`Leagacyknight7`	`that all I need to know`
`04:38.45`	`Leagacyknight7`	`cool I'll be on vent pop in there if you want`
`04:38.58`	`Anaxent`	`if you are looking for a cms style site check out dragonflycms for now`
`04:39.01`	`Leagacyknight7`	`what site is dragonfly on before you eat`
`04:39.10`	`Anaxent`	`dragonflycms.org`
`04:39.29`	`Leagacyknight7`	`thank Zanix`
`04:39.47`	`Anaxent`	`but roster does not function yet as I have not started coding it for 1.7.2`
`04:40.02`	`Zanix`	`Ill help with that port again anax`
`04:40.08`	`Zanix`	`since I need it for my site`
`04:40.14`	`Leagacyknight7`	`the dragon wont work you say?`
`04:40.16`	`Anaxent`	`great`
`04:40.20`	`Anaxent`	`not yet`
`04:40.28`	`Zanix`	`ill even make the upgrader this time, lol`
`04:40.32`	`Zanix`	`since ill need that as well`
`04:40.36`	`Zanix`	`lol`
`04:40.37`	`Anaxent`	`no port works fully yet with this new version of roster`
`04:40.42`	`Leagacyknight7`	`hey anax`
`04:41.01`	`Anaxent`	`i think we can do some cool things this time`
`04:41.31`	`Anaxent`	`using the /modules/your_account/block/wowrosterdf.php files`
`04:42.20`	`Anaxent`	`we can add the users toons(with sig/avatar) and alts to it I think maybe even dkp when the time comes`
`04:42.28`	`Anaxent`	`atleast this time around`
`04:42.50`	`Zanix`	`perhaps`
`04:42.55`	`Zanix`	`im gonna go eat noe`
`04:42.56`	`Anaxent`	`I have been reading up on alot of it i still need to figure out how to make a menu show up only when i want it to`
`04:42.56`	`Zanix`	`now`
`04:43.02`	`Anaxent`	`ok man later`
`04:43.07`	`Anaxent`	`ah watha eating`
`04:43.17`	`Leagacyknight7`	`got already already`
`04:43.23`	`Zanix`	`chicken something`
`04:43.26`	`Zanix`	`i dunno`
`04:43.28`	`Leagacyknight7`	`sorry go already`
`04:43.32`	`Zanix`	`afreto stuff`
`04:43.36`	`Zanix`	`lol`
`04:43.39`	`Anaxent`	`oh sounds good`
`04:43.40`	`Leagacyknight7`	`taco bell`
`04:43.44`	`Anaxent`	`im hungry now as well`
`04:43.47`	`Zanix`	`lol`
`04:43.58`	`Leagacyknight7`	`tacobell`
`04:43.59`	`Anaxent`	`been working 11 hrs today`
`04:44.11`	`Anaxent`	`but it was my friday so its all good`
`04:44.13`	`Leagacyknight7`	`I beat you 12 15L3aughs 15O3ut 15L3oud`
`04:44.35`	`Leagacyknight7`	`I work retail`
`04:44.48`	`Leagacyknight7`	`hours suck og holidays`
`04:44.53`	`Leagacyknight7`	`on`
`04:45.04`	`Anaxent`	`Leagacyknight7, to get an idea of roster with in df http://infragilisguild.com/index.pgp?name=wowrosterdf`
`04:45.52`	`Leagacyknight7`	`check my site give me ideas http://legionofdoomguild.net`
`04:46.18`	`Leagacyknight7`	`irc.freenode.net`
`04:46.30`	`Anaxent`	`yes i saw this the other day i really like the bkgrd ya got`
`04:46.58`	`Leagacyknight7`	`email I'll send it to you`
`04:48.03`	`*** join/#wowroster only1 (n=last@000-042-118.area3.spcsdns.net)`
`04:48.27`	`only1`	`bac`
`04:49.58`	`Leagacyknight7`	`http://infragilisguild.com/index.pgp?name=wowrosterdf not working`
`04:50.44`	`Leagacyknight7`	`anaxent whats the exact spelling of that site again`
`04:51.12`	`Anaxent`	`http://infragilisguild.com/index.php`
`04:51.32`	`Anaxent`	`ah the pgp was spelled wrng there`
`04:51.34`	`Anaxent`	`woops`
`04:53.19`	`Leagacyknight7`	`is that your site`
`04:54.17`	`Leagacyknight7`	`whats us wowrosterdf?`
`04:54.42`	`Leagacyknight7`	`I know nube question 15L3aughs 15O3ut 15L3oud`
`04:59.42`	`Leagacyknight7`	`u there?`
`05:01.59`	`Anaxent`	`oh sorry was updating my addons finally`
`05:02.06`	`Anaxent`	`yes this is one of my sites`
`05:02.24`	`Anaxent`	`if you click on the roster in the menu or header you can see wowrosterdf`
`05:02.36`	`Anaxent`	`which is roster ported to df`
`05:02.46`	`Anaxent`	`intergrating auth and all`
`05:03.01`	`Anaxent`	`but working on a few new ideas for version 1.7.2`
`05:03.25`	`Leagacyknight7`	`how big is the dragon file is it 118?`
`05:03.29`	`Leagacyknight7`	`mb`
`05:03.57`	`Leagacyknight7`	`like what types of idea's`
`05:05.22`	`Anaxent`	`well roster comes out to being about the same size`
`05:05.37`	`Anaxent`	`df is small no bigger then phpnuke`
`05:05.59`	`Anaxent`	`but has better security options then nuke`
`05:06.07`	`Anaxent`	`imo`
`05:06.45`	`Leagacyknight7`	`your site is sweet`
`05:07.22`	`Leagacyknight7`	`what the diffrence between df and roster?`
`05:08.30`	`Anaxent`	`df is a contenmanagment system`
`05:09.06`	`Anaxent`	`roster is what we are developing here at wowroster.net which allows us to view alot of very usefull guild and player data like you see on your site`
`05:10.10`	`Anaxent`	`content managment systems keep your site uniform with templates where we manage roster, forums, gallerys, news and much more at one time keeping the same look and including user/group auth`
`05:12.21`	`Leagacyknight7`	`I downloaded phpmyadmin do you recommend that better then df?`
`05:18.21`	`Leagacyknight7`	`anaxent where can I download df?`
`05:18.53`	`Leagacyknight7`	`I found it`
`05:38.03`	`Anaxent`	`well phpmyadmin is a database managment ustility it is needed to import .sql file and stuff`
`05:38.21`	`Anaxent`	`it is needed to install applications like roster and df`
`08:11.40`	`Zanix`	`hey PleegWat, you there?`
`08:23.00`	`Zanix`	`I'm adding new config values for debug and sql window`
`08:34.49`	`PleegWat`	`hi`
`08:35.13`	`PleegWat`	`cool`
`08:39.20`	`Zanix`	`yep`
`08:39.27`	`Zanix`	`sql_window`
`08:39.33`	`Zanix`	`and debug_mode`
`08:39.45`	`Zanix`	`added both to the main options`
`08:39.50`	`Zanix`	`so they'll be hard to miss`
`08:39.57`	`Zanix`	`going to leave them on for beta`
`08:40.00`	`PleegWat`	`Might be better to remove the old sql debug setting`
`08:40.03`	`Zanix`	`turn them off for final`
`08:40.16`	`Zanix`	`I dunno, some addons use that`
`08:40.32`	`Zanix`	`it was meant to output sql in html comments`
`08:40.37`	`PleegWat`	`yes`
`08:41.17`	`Zanix`	`I thought about hooking into the login code to make the backtrace print when Roster Admin is logged in`
`08:41.29`	`Zanix`	`"hooking" is a bad word, lol`
`08:41.50`	`PleegWat`	`hm, maybe better not`
`08:42.01`	`Zanix`	`yeah, I decided not ot`
`08:42.11`	`Zanix`	`I have yet to commit`
`08:42.16`	`PleegWat`	`We need an option to die_quietly without backtrace`
`08:42.46`	`Zanix`	`im analyzing the memberlog times`
`08:42.50`	`Zanix`	`really?`
`08:42.52`	`PleegWat`	`There's some places where you've used it to abort but it isn't really an error`
`08:43.03`	`Zanix`	`yeah...I have :(`
`08:43.21`	`PleegWat`	`course actually those should use messagebox() and return;`
`08:43.29`	`Zanix`	`...`
`08:43.32`	`PleegWat`	`messagebox didn't exist back then`
`08:43.34`	`Zanix`	`Maybe Ill fix that then`
`08:43.48`	`Zanix`	`there are soooo many places`
`08:44.16`	`Zanix`	`much better then just die()`
`08:44.18`	`Zanix`	`lol`
`08:44.29`	`Zanix`	`101 occurrences in Roster`
`08:44.32`	`PleegWat`	`yeah`
`08:44.43`	`PleegWat`	`The new framework definitely needs a die quietly function`
`08:45.04`	`PleegWat`	`Prolly best to have that be part of the logging class`
`08:45.20`	`Zanix`	`really?`
`08:46.34`	`Zanix`	`so a config option for backtrace, or an argument in the die_quietly function?`
`08:46.48`	`PleegWat`	`how do you mean`
`08:47.09`	`PleegWat`	`sry doing two things at a time`
`08:47.50`	`Zanix`	`lol`
`08:48.17`	`PleegWat`	`if( !$roster_conf['authenticated_user'] )`
`08:48.17`	`PleegWat`	`{`
`08:48.17`	`PleegWat`	`include_once(ROSTER_BASE.'roster_header.tpl');`
`08:48.17`	`PleegWat`	`messagebox('Uploading has been disabled for this roster');`
`08:48.17`	`PleegWat`	`include_once(ROSTER_BASE.'roster_footer.tpl');`
`08:48.18`	`PleegWat`	`exit();`
`08:48.20`	`PleegWat`	`}`
`08:48.22`	`PleegWat`	`there`
`08:48.48`	`Zanix`	`I fixed that`
`08:49.17`	`PleegWat`	`that's what you get for not submitting between fixes`
`08:49.28`	`Zanix`	`well, I them in groups`
`08:49.34`	`Zanix`	`I do them`
`08:49.44`	`Zanix`	`I dont submit after each one :(`
`08:50.10`	`Zanix`	`I also edited it so UniUploader users will get the same error`
`08:50.14`	`PleegWat`	`meh`
`08:50.22`	`Zanix`	`lol`
`08:50.36`	`PleegWat`	`I'd been planning to fix that stuff yesterday night already but it was getting late`
`08:51.07`	`Zanix`	`yeah, that happens`
`08:53.00`	`PleegWat`	`fixing the query for the new delimeter (: instead of /)`
`08:53.06`	`PleegWat`	`We should split it in 2 fields actually`
`08:53.25`	`Zanix`	`yeah, we should`
`08:53.28`	`PleegWat`	`Oh, and last night Liandra came up with a hack that makes recipe work`
`08:53.35`	`PleegWat`	`without duplicate rows`
`08:53.37`	`Zanix`	`wanna maake the sql to convert that?`
`08:53.44`	`Zanix`	`kewl`
`08:54.04`	`PleegWat`	`it's ugly really, and very mysql-specific`
`08:54.36`	`Zanix`	`oh well, thats all we support, plus its an unsupported addon`
`08:55.08`	`PleegWat`	Basically DISTINCT is processed as an aggregate function that groups by all fields. So I overrided that (in lib/recipe.php, function only used by recipe) with GROUP BY `recipe_name`
`08:55.28`	`Zanix`	`ok, I changed settings.php to messagebox, then die rather than use die_quietly`
`08:55.50`	`PleegWat`	`remember you should include roster_footer as well if needed`
`08:56.08`	`PleegWat`	`or roster_footer always and roster_header if needed`
`08:56.10`	`Zanix`	`maybe we should add a new parameter to those`
`08:56.15`	`Zanix`	`messageboxes`
`08:56.27`	`Zanix`	`, $die = false)`
`08:56.27`	`PleegWat`	`or have a seperate message_die function`
`08:56.33`	`Zanix`	`maybe`
`08:57.00`	`Zanix`	`we do have the header and footer set a DEFINE when they ahve been called once`
`08:57.11`	`PleegWat`	`I know`
`08:57.16`	`PleegWat`	`die_quietly uses them`
`08:57.21`	`Zanix`	`I think the extra parameter would be better`
`08:57.25`	`Zanix`	`imho`
`08:57.30`	`Zanix`	`well,`
`08:57.33`	`Zanix`	`no, you are right`
`08:57.37`	`Zanix`	`message_die it is`
`08:58.07`	`PleegWat`	`not on messagebox. It's not really a function it should perform and the whole including header/footer/etc stuff shouldn't be in it`
`08:58.23`	`Zanix`	`very true, thats just what I though`
`08:58.26`	`Zanix`	`*thought`
`08:58.29`	`PleegWat`	`You could do a parameter for the backtrace for die_quietly but that'd be messy with the current list of parameters`
`08:59.54`	`Zanix`	`yeah, messagebox_die is better`
`09:03.11`	`Zanix`	`there, basicly a mix of die_quietly and messagebox`
`09:04.23`	`Zanix`	`changing places in Roster to use it`
`09:05.11`	`Zanix`	`what about the places in wowdb?`
`09:05.20`	`Zanix`	`die_quietly('Invalid query result passed','Roster DB Layer');`
`09:05.33`	`PleegWat`	`those are what I wrote the backtrace for`
`09:05.47`	`Zanix`	`ok, just checking`
`09:05.48`	`PleegWat`	`Cause you get a useless error if php dies on that`
`09:06.48`	`Zanix`	`yeah`
`09:07.02`	`Zanix`	`im changing every place that just outputs a message`
`09:07.27`	`Zanix`	`with no db data or php error`
`09:07.32`	`Zanix`	`more like user errors`
`09:08.14`	`Zanix`	`like the password changer`
`09:08.20`	`Zanix`	`and the no guild errors`
`09:08.24`	`PleegWat`	`K got the rep table changes done`
`09:08.27`	`PleegWat`	ALTER TABLE `renprefix_reputation`
`09:08.27`	`PleegWat`	CHANGE `Standing` `Standing` VARCHAR( 32 ) NOT NULL DEFAULT '',
`09:08.27`	`PleegWat`	ADD `curr_rep` int(8) NULL AFTER `Value`,
`09:08.27`	`PleegWat`	ADD `max_rep` int(8) NULL AFTER `curr_rep`;
`09:08.28`	`PleegWat`	UPDATE `renprefix_reputation` SET
`09:08.28`	`PleegWat`	`curr_rep` = substring( value, 1, locate('/', value)-1) + 0,
`09:08.30`	`PleegWat`	`max_rep` = substring( value, locate('/', value)+1, length(value)-locate('/', value)) + 0;
`09:08.32`	`PleegWat`	ALTER TABLE `renprefix_reputation`
`09:08.34`	`PleegWat`	DROP `Value`;
`09:08.50`	`Zanix`	`wow`
`09:08.58`	`Zanix`	`nice`
`09:09.07`	`Zanix`	`ill do the char page changes`
`09:09.24`	`PleegWat`	`Nah, I'll do it all myself`
`09:09.30`	`PleegWat`	`Then I'm sure everything is done`
`09:09.52`	`Zanix`	`ah`
`09:09.55`	`Zanix`	`ok`
`09:10.27`	`PleegWat`	`7 occurrences`
`09:10.33`	`PleegWat`	`(of the constant)`
`09:10.43`	`Zanix`	`message die works well -> http://cvsroster.homeip.net/roster1x/trunk`
`09:11.53`	`Zanix`	`should the SQL window be in display options?`
`09:12.01`	`Zanix`	`or main?`
`09:12.06`	`PleegWat`	`not sure`
`09:12.12`	`Zanix`	`mmm`
`09:12.59`	`Zanix`	`ill leave it in main`
`09:13.04`	`Zanix`	`like it really matters`
`09:13.06`	`Zanix`	`... :9`
`09:14.44`	`PleegWat`	`reputation and char fixed. Just need to fix wowdb`
`09:15.15`	`Zanix`	`the easy part, lol`
`09:16.36`	`PleegWat`	`yeah`
`09:16.41`	`PleegWat`	`an insert and two deletes`
`09:16.45`	`PleegWat`	`and the deletes don't need fixing`
`09:17.01`	`Zanix`	`k`
`09:17.17`	`PleegWat`	`I've replaced the Value column by a curr_rep and a max_rep column`
`09:17.30`	`Zanix`	`that works`
`09:24.09`	`Zanix`	`oh, wanna make a dummy file to go in admin/update.php`
`09:24.45`	`PleegWat`	`Already committed it`
`09:24.57`	`PleegWat`	`I agree we need a dummy file there`
`09:25.44`	`Zanix`	`you didnt remove 'Value' from the main SQL sturcture file`
`09:25.55`	`PleegWat`	`damn`
`09:26.40`	`Zanix`	`lol, I hate it when I do that`
`09:28.47`	`PleegWat`	`Damn I should be reading up on the weak* topology`
`09:29.22`	`Zanix`	`?`
`09:29.56`	`PleegWat`	`math bachelor project`
`09:30.07`	`PleegWat`	`wikipedia is letting me down too`
`09:32.14`	`PleegWat`	`damn which syllabus was the damn thing treated in again`
`10:03.12`	`Zanix`	`ok, commiting`
`10:03.23`	`Zanix`	`done`
`10:50.44`	`Zanix`	`going to bed now, night pleeg`
`11:37.39`	`*** join/#wowroster Orphis (n=Orphis@sop06-1-82-228-251-21.fbx.proxad.net)`
`15:03.53`	`*** join/#wowroster Sylphid\|work (n=gamesand@64.6.15.110.outfitters.com)`
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`15:18.55`	`Dillamond`	`hey guys...as always great app`
`15:19.53`	`Dillamond`	`listen, I'm having an issue uploading my guild info...I've upgraded roster to 1.7.1 and I grabbed the most recent characterprofiler off of worldofwar.net, but I'm getting this error when I try to upload my guild info`
`15:19.56`	`Dillamond`	`Data is from CharacterProfiler v`
`15:20.03`	`Dillamond`	`The version of CharacterProfiler used to capture data for this character is older than the minimum version allowed for upload.`
`15:20.11`	`Dillamond`	`Please ensure you are running at least v1.6.2 and have logged onto this character and saved data using this version.`
`15:20.17`	`Dillamond`	`Could not update "". Maybe its not set in configuration?`
`15:20.37`	`Dillamond`	`anyone able to help me with decoding? Is that last line the key?`
`15:22.38`	`Dillamond`	`my conf.php seems to be configured correctly`
`15:24.26`	`Dillamond`	`I'm using characterprofiler 2.0.1`
`15:29.27`	`Dillamond`	`I'll back out a version and try it`
`15:33.08`	`PleegWat`	`You need the beta`
`15:33.25`	`PleegWat`	`Roster versions under 1.7.2 can't handle CP2.0 data`
`15:33.43`	`PleegWat`	`And CP under 2.0 doesn't work in wow 2.0`
`15:36.52`	`*** join/#wowroster blackmans (n=blackman@pD95DF8BA.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`15:37.01`	`blackmans`	`hi @ all`
`15:37.22`	`blackmans`	`any here?`
`15:43.30`	`*** join/#wowroster dracula (i=dracula@89.98.217.142)`
`15:44.45`	`dracula`	`hi guys :)`
`16:05.24`	`dracula`	`I was wondering, is the SVN available for checkouts?`
`16:05.59`	`PleegWat`	`no\`
`16:30.50`	`*** join/#wowroster Guest723 (i=CPGGuest@cpe-213-157-235-21.dynamic.amis.net)`
`16:57.37`	`dracula`	`bummer`
`16:58.07`	`dracula`	`I'll just lurk around in this channel :)`
`17:04.45`	`Liandra`	`devs, what do you think of changing the "Last Online" and "Last Updated" fields from something like "Sun Dec 17th, 11:17 PM" to "2 days 6:43 ago" ?`
`17:05.19`	`Liandra`	`since most of the time you'll be interested in how long ago this person was online and/or updated, instead of the exact date/time`
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`17:21.21`	`Anaxent`	`good morning`
`17:40.28`	`Liandra`	`morning Anaxent`
`17:43.12`	`Anaxent`	`hey hows it going Liandra`
`17:43.34`	`Liandra`	`fine; i just pasted another suggestion right before you joined :P`
`17:43.49`	`Liandra`	`devs, what do you think of changing the "Last Online" and "Last Updated" fields from something like "Sun Dec 17th, 11:17 PM" to "2 days 6:43 ago" ?`
`17:44.01`	`Liandra`	`since most of the time you'll be interested in how long ago this person was online and/or updated, instead of the exact date/time`
`17:47.01`	`Anaxent`	`yes i like that idea if not exactly maybe a option to use eaither or`
`17:48.13`	`Liandra`	`it could be an additional column or a different way to display the column yes, no need to replace it`
`17:50.26`	`Anaxent`	`i was thinking in the admin confile have a toggle/dropdown for style but i like the idea`
`17:50.47`	`Anaxent`	`right now im trying to get all my wow addons upto date`
`17:55.18`	`Liandra`	`i've recently upgraded as many addons as possible to Ace2 ones`
`17:55.52`	`Liandra`	`bye bye CTRA, hello oRA2 + BigWigs + XRS + PerfectRaid!`
`17:57.06`	`Anaxent`	`yeah the ace addons im finding to be very nice`
`17:57.33`	`Liandra`	`fubar and some plugins, yummy :)`
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`18:49.05`	`Matt_Miller`	`hi guys`
`18:49.45`	`Matt_Miller`	`is anyone active atm?`
`18:50.00`	`Harshmage`	`nope`
`18:50.06`	`Matt_Miller`	`aww`
`18:50.28`	`PleegWat`	`hi matt`
`18:50.33`	`Matt_Miller`	`hi there!`
`18:50.43`	`Matt_Miller`	`can we talk about our thing`
`18:50.49`	`PleegWat`	`sure`
`18:50.52`	`Matt_Miller`	`i was wondering about the domain name`
`18:51.06`	`Matt_Miller`	`what do you think would be best / easiest to implement`
`18:51.22`	`PleegWat`	`I'm no good with names`
`18:51.26`	`Matt_Miller`	`1: giving each member a fully qualified domain name`
`18:51.31`	`Matt_Miller`	`2: subdomains`
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`18:51.40`	`PleegWat`	`ah`
`18:51.43`	`Matt_Miller`	`3: subdirectories`
`18:51.43`	`PleegWat`	`Well`
`18:51.48`	`PleegWat`	`No subdirs`
`18:51.53`	`PleegWat`	`I'd say`
`18:52.00`	`PleegWat`	`Domain names cost extra`
`18:52.03`	`PleegWat`	`Cause AFAIK they do`
`18:52.07`	`Matt_Miller`	`yup`
`18:52.11`	`PleegWat`	`I think we can do subdomains for free`
`18:52.14`	`Matt_Miller`	`8 bucks a year at least`
`18:52.26`	`Matt_Miller`	`we can but i dont know how to set up the subdomains like that`
`18:52.31`	`PleegWat`	`Subdirs put restrictions on the system running the main site`
`18:52.42`	`PleegWat`	`Dunno either. Maybe anax does.`
`18:52.52`	`Matt_Miller`	`your right subdirs would be very bad`
`18:53.04`	`Matt_Miller`	`has anax been around?`
`18:53.19`	`PleegWat`	`He was here about an hour ago`
`18:53.31`	`PleegWat`	`Anaxent you there?`
`18:53.47`	`PleegWat`	`dunno if he runs a nickalert`
`18:53.50`	`BigMix`	`anyone around that can help me with a problem with siggen ?`
`18:53.59`	`PleegWat`	`what roster version`
`18:54.04`	`BigMix`	`the beta`
`18:54.11`	`PleegWat`	`Siggen doesn't show heads?`
`18:54.16`	`PleegWat`	`Known bug, read the beta notes`
`18:54.18`	`BigMix`	`yes the char image`
`18:54.44`	`BigMix`	`i didnt see that in the notes ok`
`18:55.05`	`BigMix`	`so the ones im seeing on the net that show up must be the older version ?`
`18:55.10`	`PleegWat`	`yes`
`18:55.18`	`BigMix`	`ok`
`18:55.38`	`PleegWat`	`Anyway matt, I'd say we definitely need to offer domain names as an option. But I'd like to be able to do subdomains or subdirs too.`
`18:56.42`	`BigMix`	`is it a but where i have one character that the mouseover on items will not show the stats just item name ?`
`18:56.46`	`BigMix`	`bug not but`
`18:57.03`	`PleegWat`	`CP problem`
`18:57.11`	`BigMix`	`cp problem ?`
`18:57.13`	`PleegWat`	`Neither us nor calvin has any idea what's causing it`
`18:57.17`	`PleegWat`	`CharacterProfiler`
`18:57.19`	`BigMix`	`ah`
`18:57.26`	`PleegWat`	`If you open the data file you'll see the tooltips aren't in there either`
`18:57.31`	`BigMix`	`was just weird because its only one toon so far`
`18:57.55`	`BigMix`	`ill try to delete the file and have it recreate it because i have toons on same account working`
`19:11.40`	`Anaxent`	`yes im here was playing wow testing my new addons`
`19:11.45`	`Anaxent`	`whats up guys`
`19:13.15`	`Anaxent`	`well we can do subdomians then domain foward to the sub if needed`
`19:13.57`	`Anaxent`	`or we could create an allias that would allow ourdomain.com/~username then domain foward to it`
`19:15.08`	`Anaxent`	`PleegWat, Matt_Miller good morning`
`19:16.42`	`Anaxent`	`lets talk in the dev channel`
`19:23.26`	`Anaxent`	`so Matt_Miller im going to transfer my druid and my gf warrior to Alexstrasza im thinking`
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`19:57.50`	`Guest646`	`hello`
`19:58.08`	`Guest646`	`can someone help me?`
`20:05.35`	`Anaxent`	`So PleegWat and Matt_Miller did you guys fall asleep already?`
`20:07.00`	`Matt_Miller`	`ana`
`20:07.07`	`Matt_Miller`	`brb logging this station off`
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`20:10.13`	`Matt_Miller`	`testing`
`20:11.46`	`Harshmage`	`recieving`
`20:11.55`	`Matt_Miller`	`cool`
`20:12.21`	`Anaxent`	`ok`
`20:12.34`	`PleegWat`	`lol`
`20:12.38`	`Anaxent`	`so there are a few ways we can get the user process doan server side`
`20:12.46`	`Anaxent`	`talking about dir structure`
`20:13.00`	`Matt_Miller`	`hmm`
`20:13.09`	`Matt_Miller`	`greets anaxent`
`20:13.20`	`Anaxent`	`either using mod userdir which allows the user to do domainname.com/~thereusername`
`20:13.41`	`Anaxent`	`or of coarse the subdomain way`
`20:13.51`	`PleegWat`	`I'd prefer the subdomains myself`
`20:13.55`	`Anaxent`	`both would allow domain forwarding to the root dirs`
`20:14.02`	`Matt_Miller`	`do you guys know the implications of offering fully qualified domain names?`
`20:14.26`	`Anaxent`	`well most hosts use 3rd parties`
`20:14.26`	`Matt_Miller`	`i know you do anaxent but by a 3rd party perspective`
`20:14.34`	`Matt_Miller`	`right`
`20:14.45`	`PleegWat`	`I know the implications of having one, more or less`
`20:14.59`	`Matt_Miller`	`enom.com offers domain names, and a decent API, but it makes things more complicated`
`20:15.26`	`Anaxent`	`if the user has or gets there own domain name it is easy to point to name servers`
`20:15.37`	`Matt_Miller`	`i think we should do the domainname.com/~thereusername route, its easiest isnt it?`
`20:15.48`	`PleegWat`	`Probably`
`20:15.51`	`Anaxent`	`if we would have to manage this it oculd be more trouble some due to tranfers and renewals`
`20:16.01`	`Anaxent`	`but inside plesk....`
`20:16.07`	`Anaxent`	`we can register domains`
`20:16.09`	`Harshmage`	`ew, plesk`
`20:16.22`	`Anaxent`	`and then assosiate to anywhere`
`20:16.59`	`PleegWat`	`hm`
`20:17.09`	`Matt_Miller`	`people are going to want full domains of course, but like you said i think we would run into trouble with the xfers/renewals`
`20:17.16`	`Anaxent`	`i have found pleask being a great cp over cpanel and others`
`20:17.33`	`Matt_Miller`	`i like it more than cpanel, the look and feel anyway`
`20:17.57`	`Matt_Miller`	`its a framework for providing web space pleeg`
`20:26.11`	`PleegWat`	`I'm having to go off for coffee. Be back in half an hour.`
`20:26.18`	`Matt_Miller`	`alirhgt`
`20:26.22`	`Matt_Miller`	`seea then`
`20:26.28`	`Matt_Miller`	`im researching plesk api`
`20:26.37`	`Anaxent`	`join the dev channel`
`20:26.56`	`Anaxent`	`alot of off the wall talk in here`
`20:35.56`	`Harshmage`	`I prefer cpanel for my friends who don't know how to do ...well.. a lot of things. Personally, just give me an ssh, and I'm happy.`
`20:40.38`	`Anaxent`	`lol yeah i know what you mean`
`20:44.51`	`Anaxent`	`but im looking ta the situation from a different standpoint altogether`
`21:45.14`	`Matt_Miller`	`brb damn`
`21:45.18`	`Matt_Miller`	`gotta vpn into work`
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`22:58.14`	`dracula`	`is MattM\|AFK == Mathos ?`
`23:08.15`	`Anaxent`	`no`
`23:08.17`	`Anaxent`	`mathos is not online right now`
`23:10.15`	`dracula`	`oh ok`
`23:10.22`	`dracula`	`was a long shot ;)`
`23:22.41`	`Anaxent`	`well to help ya fell better we are all on him everyday to get rosterdkp done`
`23:23.01`	`Anaxent`	`lol j/k, but he really is working hard to get it finished up though`
`23:26.37`	`Anaxent`	`MattM\|AFK, is our famous one and only UU/UA Dev`
`23:29.29`	`Harshmage`	`which is an awesome app, btw.`
`23:39.50`	`dracula`	`how did you guess I was going to bug him about rosterdkp? :)`
`23:40.17`	`dracula`	`no, not bug... support...!`
`23:42.22`	`dracula`	`oh UniUploader... I only found out about that after I wrote my own uploader :s`
`23:42.40`	`dracula`	`which I wrote to overcome a problem when uploading my CharacterProfiler.lua`
`23:43.11`	`dracula`	`my profiler file contains data of 8 characters, so it's quite big`
`23:43.34`	`dracula`	`and the server I was uploading to gave a PHP "exceeded maximum size" error`

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