| 00:10.55 | Anaxent | yo whats up guys |
| 00:11.08 | Anaxent | so I will be leaving work here soon working on my day off |
| 00:11.39 | Anaxent | but i have made a post to the dev forums about the framework it includes full documentation |
| 01:45.03 | Zanix|away | crap, I wish more of the dev team was on |
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| 02:16.18 | Anaxent | yo whats up guys |
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| 05:08.22 | Zanix|away | anax, still around? |
| 05:15.28 | Zanix | Anaxent? |
| 05:15.33 | Anaxent | yo |
| 05:15.55 | Anaxent | I just made a new post to the forums with the download to the docs of this framework |
| 05:16.10 | Anaxent | due to it not displaying right on the server |
| 05:16.10 | Zanix | I saw |
| 05:16.13 | Zanix | :( |
| 05:16.33 | Zanix | ...downloading |
| 05:16.42 | Anaxent | pls be careful with the data in it though meaning dont give it out yet due toi secure data from our network |
| 05:17.09 | Anaxent | but mostly just path info |
| 05:17.42 | Zanix | you should post that statement in the dev forum as well |
| 05:17.48 | Anaxent | this is not only just the framework but an app built off it for our work being a note traker |
| 05:17.53 | Anaxent | I will |
| 05:20.25 | Anaxent | ok just posted that |
| 05:20.32 | Anaxent | so how are you doing tonight |
| 05:21.18 | Anaxent | imthinking the reason why it wont fully render on my server is due to a mime type but still researching |
| 05:21.30 | Anaxent | eaither way the docs show all the sorce code |
| 05:21.52 | Anaxent | the app that has been built just fully rocks for a support stand point |
| 05:22.15 | Anaxent | due to us using this religously at work for just about everything we do |
| 05:22.16 | Zanix | I can try to put on my server |
| 05:22.22 | Zanix | my personal server |
| 05:22.39 | Anaxent | and for the phpdocumentation app i like what it can create |
| 05:22.57 | Zanix | no kidding, its very nice |
| 05:23.06 | Zanix | phpdoc is built into zend |
| 05:23.13 | Anaxent | by parcing the files for key names like class and function then the comments |
| 05:23.16 | Zanix | maybe I should run it on roster |
| 05:23.24 | Anaxent | yeah I would |
| 05:23.41 | Anaxent | its like poil;ating the wiki in a way |
| 05:23.48 | Anaxent | atleast as a dev stand point |
| 05:23.50 | Zanix | http://xent.homeip.net/somedocs/ |
| 05:24.58 | Anaxent | cool |
| 05:24.58 | Anaxent | it works for ya |
| 05:24.58 | Anaxent | pls check it out |
| 05:25.11 | Anaxent | I will get a full package here soon to really check out but wanted to atleast give you something to read up on and see if it even would be a path we would take |
| 05:25.51 | Zanix | the php5 thing is really turning me off |
| 05:26.17 | Zanix | I would rather use it, but thats so many users we will cut off |
| 05:27.22 | Anaxent | yeah i see what you are saying |
| 05:27.27 | Anaxent | but in many ways not |
| 05:27.39 | Anaxent | due to we can host |
| 05:27.48 | Anaxent | in alot of peeps would love that idea |
| 05:28.16 | Anaxent | due to the new advantages that we could have |
| 05:28.34 | Anaxent | faster code inetracive pages.... |
| 05:29.20 | Zanix | true |
| 05:29.26 | Anaxent | and still giving the option to freely download ind install if you have the specs |
| 05:29.48 | Zanix | I like the idea of a head start |
| 05:29.49 | Anaxent | plus more and more host give options to php5 |
| 05:30.25 | Zanix | I feel like we would be alienating alot of people |
| 05:30.37 | Zanix | and the core purpose of this project |
| 05:30.58 | Zanix | maybe im just scared, i sunno |
| 05:30.59 | Anaxent | ok so what if there was away to use this code for php4 as well |
| 05:31.19 | Zanix | there is alot of php5 only stuff in here |
| 05:31.38 | Anaxent | and cuz I feel im stil new to all of the coding aspect I could not tell for sure if it were to convert if needed |
| 05:31.44 | Anaxent | yes I do see that |
| 05:31.57 | Zanix | there is alot of hard coded english stuff as well |
| 05:32.07 | Anaxent | ok lets look at it another way |
| 05:32.37 | Zanix | lol, the login class looks almost like ours |
| 05:32.45 | Zanix | well, the file anyway |
| 05:33.41 | Anaxent | well the way i see things most users pay for there hosting just to build a guild site and having to do alot of work to build one |
| 05:33.55 | Anaxent | and paying anywhere form 5-20 per onth |
| 05:34.21 | Zanix | true |
| 05:34.26 | Anaxent | we have almost 14k users now all guild master or webmasters doing just thid |
| 05:34.54 | Anaxent | if we were to offer what I can see in my head they would love us for the time and money they have saved |
| 05:35.28 | Zanix | perhaps |
| 05:35.47 | Zanix | am I the only one that seems resistant to this idea? |
| 05:35.59 | Anaxent | look at wingforce he did what he did but uses df right now |
| 05:36.13 | Anaxent | wants the complete solution |
| 05:36.23 | Zanix | yeah |
| 05:36.29 | Anaxent | no as not many know of this idea |
| 05:36.41 | Zanix | dont let me forget I need to package up a beta 2 |
| 05:36.42 | Anaxent | due to me not speaking out offten |
| 05:36.43 | Zanix | tonight |
| 05:36.50 | Anaxent | sweet |
| 05:36.57 | Anaxent | I just grabed svn last night |
| 05:37.30 | Zanix | grab it again, I did a small update today |
| 05:38.01 | Anaxent | see in my head i hate using this system for forums and this for that and so on while triing to keep the look and feel and auth all the same |
| 05:38.21 | Anaxent | we have the ability to build this very system |
| 05:38.46 | Anaxent | wow is not going anywhere anytime soon from what i can tell |
| 05:39.11 | Zanix | very true |
| 05:39.48 | Anaxent | and guild prtal is really the only oneout there doing guild hosting but it is crap |
| 05:40.19 | Anaxent | in time we will have our own dkp system and the rest is gravy |
| 05:41.23 | Zanix | true |
| 05:41.41 | Zanix | very true |
| 05:41.49 | Zanix | offer a complete hosint system |
| 05:42.17 | Anaxent | the complete solution all built by us |
| 05:42.23 | Anaxent | no one has this |
| 05:43.00 | Anaxent | item db opensmany many doors as well i would asume |
| 05:44.17 | Anaxent | well either way we go im in full suuport |
| 05:44.35 | Anaxent | im still learning all the coding but full of many ideas |
| 05:45.51 | Zanix | thats good |
| 05:46.01 | Anaxent | the cool thing that i have found this this code is anything can be accessed with the cpmain class |
| 05:46.25 | Anaxent | and you only load what you need to load at any time |
| 05:46.29 | Zanix | that's nice |
| 05:47.08 | Anaxent | if i were only able to show you what has been built already man... it is so fast and some cool shiznit |
| 05:47.20 | Anaxent | but opnly internal ip can access |
| 05:48.07 | Zanix | oh well |
| 05:49.04 | Anaxent | the app gets data on 4 companys which we own, sl 50k + , ipower 500k, dot5 40k, bluefish 20k (i think) clients |
| 05:50.42 | Anaxent | im able to find anything that is wrong with any host or domian, find paths to home dirs if multi domains are assosiated to the primary and so much more in less than secs |
| 05:52.25 | Anaxent | and you can see the guy that has been building this is pretty anal on code standards |
| 05:53.40 | Anaxent | so i upgraded our servers pleask version last night gives a few new options |
| 05:54.16 | Anaxent | like running ruby on rails apps, new web stats choices |
| 05:54.34 | Anaxent | mysql5 will be avalibale soon to play with |
| 05:55.51 | Anaxent | sorry sl has 100k + clients 500k was 4 months ago |
| 05:56.05 | Anaxent | sorry sl has 100k + clients 50k was 4 months ago |
| 05:56.16 | Zanix | whats does that mean? |
| 05:57.43 | Anaxent | i guess nothing really but explaning that the app that was built off this fram work is getting data in lees than secs from all these servers for all these clients |
| 05:58.13 | Anaxent | more or less just bragging that it is fast |
| 05:59.30 | Zanix | ah, i see |
| 06:00.57 | Anaxent | he has been building this to really think for my support guys checking nagios(server satsus in real time) to come up with lamin terms of issues to make it easier to diagnose the issues |
| 06:01.25 | Anaxent | but the framework its self can be built in to anything |
| 06:02.25 | Anaxent | I know this is a huge decission |
| 06:03.11 | Zanix | it is |
| 06:03.27 | Zanix | I would have to see more about how it works |
| 06:03.35 | Anaxent | so I would like alot of imput from al the devs and im sure you would as well |
| 06:03.46 | Anaxent | of coarse |
| 06:03.48 | Zanix | yes |
| 06:04.00 | Anaxent | i will get the real code here sone with db data |
| 06:04.20 | Anaxent | to built a test station of the main framework |
| 06:04.41 | Anaxent | but it has to be stripped first |
| 06:05.16 | Anaxent | but i atleast got docs for it so you could get an idea of the functions, objects, and classes |
| 06:08.26 | Anaxent | I can put prices togethjer for our dedis as well I know a duel xeon 3.4 DC would be 369 per month which to pay for it would cost 3.69 per 100 users |
| 06:09.47 | Zanix | Im sure we could get 100 users |
| 06:10.01 | Anaxent | then with symlinks and caching overhead would be nothing |
| 06:11.24 | Anaxent | and the 3.4 could very well be so much overkill but seeing the big picture is key |
| 06:11.42 | Anaxent | and that is retail |
| 06:12.08 | Anaxent | i know i can get a deal and if there is more than one server weeeeeee |
| 06:12.17 | Anaxent | lol |
| 06:12.52 | Zanix | true |
| 06:13.33 | Anaxent | so did you package up beta 2 yet |
| 06:14.42 | Anaxent | and to make things better for the complete solution is UU/US |
| 06:15.15 | Anaxent | im still working with flukes at worldofwar.net to build a new .dll to use getaddonid() |
| 06:15.44 | Anaxent | there for being able to see and get any addon in there database |
| 06:16.06 | Anaxent | keeping our users from having to upload addon to there UA to be updated |
| 06:18.05 | Zanix | holy crap |
| 06:18.14 | Zanix | im looking for beta test agreements |
| 06:18.49 | Anaxent | ? agreements |
| 06:19.59 | Zanix | yeah |
| 06:20.11 | Zanix | i forgot to include one in beta 1 |
| 06:20.48 | Anaxent | so more or less a lic to use beta> |
| 06:20.50 | Anaxent | ? |
| 06:20.52 | Zanix | yeah |
| 06:22.52 | Anaxent | so what have you found? |
| 06:24.12 | Zanix | long and boring harsh agreements |
| 06:24.20 | Zanix | so I'm cutting one up for me :) |
| 06:24.34 | Anaxent | so what do you want for christmas? |
| 06:25.08 | Zanix | my two front teeth |
| 06:25.11 | Zanix | =P |
| 06:25.19 | Anaxent | Im finally going to celebrate xmas after 5 yrs |
| 06:25.47 | Zanix | lol |
| 06:26.09 | Anaxent | yeah since ive been in AZ I have not have xmas off |
| 06:26.18 | Zanix | that sucks |
| 06:26.24 | Zanix | and blows |
| 06:26.55 | Anaxent | so tomorrow me and the gf are driving to CA outlet mall in palmsprings to shp for each other |
| 06:27.29 | Anaxent | I wanna get a new pair of sunglases razerwire oakleys |
| 06:28.00 | Anaxent | lolI should send all the devs flowers |
| 06:28.36 | Anaxent | make matt smile |
| 06:29.21 | Zanix | lol |
| 06:31.03 | Zanix | man |
| 06:31.10 | Zanix | seems too wordy still |
| 06:31.41 | Zanix | http://xent.homeip.net/pastebin/index.php?show=38 |
| 06:32.57 | Anaxent | ok yeah first look I skim through learn nothing |
| 06:33.10 | Anaxent | so now i wil actually read it |
| 06:33.10 | Zanix | lol |
| 06:33.24 | Zanix | right, I want to make something that people will acutally read |
| 06:33.35 | Zanix | thats why im trimming it down |
| 06:35.03 | Anaxent | ok i read i and like it |
| 06:36.15 | Zanix | you sure |
| 06:36.32 | Anaxent | we should really make a setup for them that they owuld have check box to agree to the terms which would post to wowroster.net |
| 06:37.00 | Zanix | I think this may be good enough |
| 06:37.12 | Zanix | Ok, what I want is this |
| 06:37.27 | Anaxent | and making this open beta avaliable to onle the wowroster.net site users using the df auth for now |
| 06:37.28 | Zanix | Notice that we do not support beta software |
| 06:37.44 | Zanix | that this can 'F' up your server, not our fault |
| 06:37.51 | Anaxent | lol |
| 06:38.26 | Zanix | also, that any support provided only comes form one place, the beta forums |
| 06:38.59 | Zanix | not to sell, or create other works from the beta software |
| 06:39.09 | Zanix | release, I dont care |
| 06:39.15 | Zanix | but beta, heeeeelllllzzz no |
| 06:39.41 | Anaxent | I know this copuld be a big task bit with the devs her I know it could be easy to trak who is using our beta apps |
| 06:40.47 | Anaxent | yeah that is good |
| 06:40.57 | Zanix | so this isnt too much? |
| 06:41.02 | Anaxent | it is beta they use at there risk |
| 06:41.35 | Zanix | ok |
| 06:41.44 | Anaxent | i just look at the long run for liability |
| 06:42.13 | Anaxent | if ther was a for for them to check thje box to say agree |
| 06:42.42 | Anaxent | we could store beta agree data in the db from all beta testers |
| 06:45.02 | Anaxent | and this liablility is outside of what wowroster.net is as of now, but if taking the path of the complete solution the iiability is a must to think about |
| 06:46.01 | Zanix | i think we are ok |
| 06:46.05 | Zanix | honsetly |
| 06:46.21 | Anaxent | cool |
| 06:47.31 | Anaxent | working for a host i will bring hoots poinst everynow and again |
| 06:48.01 | Zanix | hots? hoots? |
| 06:48.03 | Zanix | huh? |
| 06:48.03 | Anaxent | working for a host i will bring hosts points everynow and again |
| 06:48.35 | Anaxent | working for a host i will bring up hosts points everynow and again |
| 06:48.50 | Anaxent | I guess is better said |
| 06:54.25 | Zanix | ah |
| 06:54.37 | Zanix | almost have the annoyware code in |
| 06:57.20 | Zanix | http://cvsroster.homeip.net/roster1x/trunk/ |
| 06:57.22 | Zanix | look |
| 06:57.25 | Zanix | :D |
| 06:57.43 | Zanix | annoyware |
| 06:57.46 | Zanix | hehe |
| 06:59.06 | Zanix | anax? |
| 07:02.03 | Zanix | im hiding the annoyware removal in the beta testing guidelines |
| 07:02.07 | Zanix | =P |
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| 07:10.47 | LEAGACYKNIGHT7 | hEY ZANIX |
| 07:10.56 | Zanix | AHHH1 |
| 07:11.12 | LEAGACYKNIGHT7 | can you get on vent I got the server running |
| 07:11.16 | LEAGACYKNIGHT7 | hahah |
| 07:11.56 | Anaxent | I just logged into wow but I like that Zanix |
| 07:12.22 | Zanix | I suppose I could |
| 07:12.26 | Zanix | if I have to |
| 07:12.28 | Zanix | I guess |
| 07:12.29 | Zanix | lol |
| 07:12.36 | Zanix | red green show, love it! |
| 07:12.38 | LEAGACYKNIGHT7 | 15 L11aughs 15 O11ut 15 L11oud |
| 07:12.54 | Zanix | wanna join us anax? |
| 07:13.06 | LEAGACYKNIGHT7 | listen I am having trouble up loading guild name |
| 07:13.38 | Zanix | I found a new and wonderful key to use for push to talk |
| 07:46.39 | Zanix | uploading beta 2 now |
| 08:02.04 | Zanix | night Anaxent, I put up beta2 |
| 08:02.15 | Zanix | hopefully it goes fast |
| 08:02.25 | Zanix | later |
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