| 00:00.04 | Sylphid|work | Reputation addon fails entirely |
| 00:00.07 | Sylphid|work | #0 die_quietly(Invalid query result passed, Roster DB Layer) called at [/var/www/roster_1.7.2_beta/lib/wowdb.php:244] |
| 00:00.07 | Sylphid|work | #1 wowdb->closeQuery() called at [/var/www/roster_1.7.2_beta/addons/reputation/membersRep.php:126] |
| 00:00.08 | Sylphid|work | #2 require_once(/var/www/roster_1.7.2_beta/addons/reputation/membersRep.php) called at [/var/www/roster_1.7.2_beta/addons/reputation/index.php:27] |
| 00:00.08 | Sylphid|work | #3 include_once(/var/www/roster_1.7.2_beta/addons/reputation/index.php) called at [/var/www/roster_1.7.2_beta/addon.php:78] |
| 00:30.33 | Mathos | phpUniUploader upload does not work |
| 00:30.51 | Mathos | NOT Updating character [Character] |
| 00:30.51 | Mathos | Data is from CharacterProfiler v |
| 00:30.51 | Mathos | The version of CharacterProfiler used to capture data for this character is older than the minimum version allowed for upload. |
| 00:30.51 | Mathos | Please ensure you are running at least v2.0.0 and have logged onto this character and saved data using this version. |
| 00:30.52 | Mathos | Could not update "%s". Maybe its not set in configuration? |
| 00:31.07 | Mathos | which is weird |
| 00:32.07 | Mathos | is UniUploader working well ? |
| 00:50.22 | Mathos | Nevermind...... |
| 04:01.56 | *** join/#wowroster Kyrin (n=gostlund@d198-53-224-65.abhsia.telus.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 04:33.30 | *** join/#wowroster gamesandglory (n=gamesand@mail.chaos-dragon.com) |
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| 08:49.07 | *** mode/#wowroster [+o Zanix] by ChanServ |
| 08:49.13 | Zanix | hello? |
| 09:02.25 | Zanix | PleegWat, are you around? |
| 09:12.29 | Zanix | THAT IS IT |
| 09:12.44 | Zanix | i am sOOOO tired of this slow crap |
| 09:49.53 | PleegWat | hi |
| 09:59.10 | Zanix | hey |
| 09:59.32 | Zanix | so, you think matt is having a huge CS party or something? |
| 09:59.57 | Zanix | i cannot have our site at the mercy of bots for a game |
| 10:00.06 | Zanix | this is very frustrating |
| 10:01.08 | PleegWat | Dunno, haven't been on the site yet today |
| 10:01.14 | PleegWat | It's been bad though |
| 10:01.22 | Zanix | no kidding |
| 10:02.15 | Zanix | im irked |
| 10:02.18 | Zanix | very much so |
| 10:02.31 | PleegWat | It's not very slow ATM |
| 10:02.33 | PleegWat | Been worse |
| 10:02.45 | Zanix | yeah, when I was freaking out erlier |
| 10:02.57 | Zanix | it was comming up as not found on my end |
| 10:03.07 | PleegWat | ah |
| 10:04.34 | Zanix | I cannot believe that just traffic alone could slow us down this much |
| 10:05.00 | PleegWat | Yeah, seems unlikely |
| 10:05.35 | PleegWat | About the sql box, there were serveral persons complaining about it. Do you think we need to change anything there? |
| 10:05.50 | PleegWat | I didn't think of the existing sql debug option when I hooked it into the page display time |
| 10:06.16 | Zanix | yeah, I saw that |
| 10:07.00 | Zanix | may be a good spot for it |
| 10:07.36 | PleegWat | Moving it to sql debug you mean? |
| 10:07.43 | Zanix | maybe |
| 10:07.55 | Zanix | or it's own option? |
| 10:08.03 | PleegWat | yes, maybe |
| 10:08.11 | PleegWat | There's also the debug trace in die_quietly |
| 10:08.21 | PleegWat | That's also controlled by the processing time display |
| 10:09.09 | Zanix | i think they may need to be separated, or we can use the Roster login feature to also display if admin is logged in |
| 10:09.30 | PleegWat | I don't think we should mess with that for 1.7.2 |
| 10:10.12 | Zanix | true |
| 10:10.15 | Zanix | good point |
| 10:10.32 | Zanix | so new options it is? |
| 10:10.44 | PleegWat | yes |
| 10:10.57 | Zanix | im trying to view these bugs in 1.7.2, but the forums |
| 10:11.05 | Zanix | ...I wanna punch my screen |
| 10:17.28 | PleegWat | OK I think I've got the reputation addon fixed |
| 10:23.16 | PleegWat | Yuk |
| 10:30.36 | PleegWat | That's better |
| 10:38.18 | PleegWat | http://leegwater-68.demon.nl/roster/addon.php?roster_addon_name=reputation |
| 10:40.52 | *** join/#wowroster sepeck (n=sepeck@054.172-78-65.ftth.swbr.surewest.net) |
| 10:47.09 | PleegWat | The other 2 errors lesbalier came up with are a data issue |
| 10:47.45 | PleegWat | There's no tooltip data in the cp.lua for the character in question |
| 11:02.18 | Zanix | yeah |
| 11:02.23 | Zanix | im posting about that |
| 11:02.34 | Zanix | im talking to anthonyb right now on msn |
| 11:13.04 | Zanix | *sniff* |
| 11:13.18 | Zanix | he told me that he retiring |
| 11:14.48 | Zanix | s/he/he's/ |
| 11:14.53 | Zanix | lol |
| 11:14.56 | Zanix | that didnt work |
| 11:19.28 | Zanix | ok, two fixes for lifetimeCP and the sql upgrade file |
| 11:19.31 | Zanix | are comited |
| 11:19.34 | Zanix | commited |
| 11:19.37 | Zanix | ... |
| 11:19.45 | Zanix | im off to the store |
| 11:57.27 | PleegWat | CP isn't a score but more like a currency |
| 11:58.08 | PleegWat | Wouldn't know how to make that work with these fields though, maybe calvin knows |
| 11:58.25 | PleegWat | The relevant amount to display would be the current total number of CP |
| 12:03.56 | PleegWat | BTW, I think we need to delete the memberlog addon category or move it to archive, since memberlog isn't an addon anymore |
| 12:04.48 | PleegWat | Going off to the store for a bit as well |
| 12:17.16 | Zanix | k, im back |
| 12:17.29 | Zanix | i ate my chips at the tv, :P |
| 12:18.20 | Zanix | agreed about the memberlog thin |
| 12:22.20 | Zanix | anyway, im off to bed |
| 12:22.32 | Zanix | later |
| 12:30.31 | PleegWat | g'night |
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| 13:16.37 | *** mode/#wowroster [+o Mathos] by ChanServ |
| 13:16.58 | Mathos | PleegwaT |
| 13:17.31 | Mathos | Any idea why the siggen is acting weird for AV when custom images are inserted ? |
| 13:18.22 | PleegWat | hi |
| 13:18.26 | PleegWat | no idea |
| 13:18.29 | PleegWat | you want zanix for that |
| 13:18.31 | Mathos | http://elune.mysticwoods.nl/roster/av/Beela.png |
| 13:18.36 | Mathos | Not all of them but some |
| 13:18.56 | Mathos | http://elune.mysticwoods.nl/roster/av/Micaiah.png |
| 13:19.00 | Mathos | Micaiah is working fine |
| 13:19.01 | PleegWat | Seems to be generating a wrong-size background |
| 13:19.37 | PleegWat | can you fix the problems in rosterdiag? People are complaining about them |
| 13:21.24 | Mathos | Not investigated it yet tbh |
| 13:21.40 | Mathos | but you can disable the E_ALL part for a start |
| 13:21.48 | Mathos | that will get rid of all the warnings |
| 13:21.57 | PleegWat | I think the invalid offset means a numeric array key that doesn't exiwst |
| 13:22.10 | Mathos | prolly |
| 13:22.30 | Mathos | No idea what caused it though, cause in 1.7.0 it was working fine |
| 13:22.37 | Mathos | might be that the page aint there |
| 13:22.46 | Mathos | dunno if matt removed it or not |
| 13:22.53 | PleegWat | It's always appeared sometimes |
| 13:23.05 | Mathos | not on 1.7.0 if I remember right |
| 13:23.12 | Mathos | unless wowroster.net was down |
| 13:24.09 | PleegWat | Well, wowroster.net has been slow for a week or two cause of matt running CS bots on the server |
| 13:24.42 | Mathos | CS bots......what are those ? |
| 13:24.57 | PleegWat | automated counterstrike players |
| 13:25.06 | Mathos | ah |
| 13:25.10 | Mathos | hmmmm |
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| 16:08.51 | *** mode/#wowroster [+o Anaxent] by ChanServ |
| 16:14.38 | Anaxent | good morning |
| 16:17.31 | PleegWat | hi |
| 16:17.48 | PleegWat | Been fixing roster 1.7.2 bugs today |
| 16:17.55 | PleegWat | This public beta works excellently |
| 16:18.04 | PleegWat | First time we're actually getting feedback |
| 16:29.05 | Anaxent | nice |
| 16:29.12 | Anaxent | I need to visit the site and read up |
| 16:29.32 | Anaxent | i also need to install the beta today as well I have not had the time in the last fewdays |
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| 16:57.53 | Anaxent | http://infragilisguild.com/index.php?name=ForumsPro&file=viewtopic&t=97 |
| 16:58.11 | Anaxent | I added bbcode buttons to my forum to display youtube and google video |
| 16:58.28 | Anaxent | but for some reason it only displays for me in IE |
| 16:58.54 | *** join/#wowroster cv6ds (n=asoidhf@c-69-241-206-35.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 16:58.59 | cv6ds | sup fellas |
| 16:59.23 | MillerM | hihi! |
| 16:59.27 | Anaxent | yo man whats up |
| 16:59.29 | MillerM | someone using mattm lol |
| 16:59.37 | Anaxent | how have things been |
| 16:59.42 | MillerM | good good |
| 16:59.57 | MillerM | im on antidepressants, they seem to be helping |
| 17:00.26 | Anaxent | good to hear |
| 17:00.30 | PleegWat_ | hi |
| 17:00.36 | MillerM | jeez this beer is bitter |
| 17:00.39 | MillerM | i just bought it |
| 17:00.47 | MillerM | hi pleeg |
| 17:01.09 | PleegWat_ | Server finally seems to be speeding up again a bit now |
| 17:01.42 | Anaxent | yes im seeing a bit of a diffrence |
| 17:02.09 | PleegWat_ | How much b/w does wowroster.net use anyway |
| 17:04.25 | MillerM | honeltly dont kow |
| 17:04.26 | MillerM | know |
| 17:04.33 | MillerM | honestly don't know |
| 17:05.54 | MillerM | http://www.demontest.us/bandwidth.zip |
| 17:06.37 | MillerM | thats how much |
| 17:06.54 | PleegWat | damn that's a lot |
| 17:07.20 | MillerM | you think so? |
| 17:07.27 | PleegWat | well |
| 17:07.34 | MillerM | lol everything tastes bitter |
| 17:07.37 | MillerM | yuck |
| 17:07.46 | PleegWat | I've got no idea how much sites this size generally use |
| 17:08.04 | PleegWat | Hey, engbags was updated :) |
| 17:08.08 | MillerM | me either this is site is the biggest ive hosted or mastered |
| 17:08.23 | MillerM | did you notice a lot more people register every day now |
| 17:08.31 | MillerM | it started out around 20 a day |
| 17:08.36 | MillerM | now its around 50 a day |
| 17:08.38 | PleegWat | I don't keep track |
| 17:08.52 | MillerM | thats amazing |
| 17:09.10 | Anaxent | yeah thats not too bad cuz mosts hosts give 200+gb of bandwith we here give 750gb |
| 17:09.22 | MillerM | you know if we keep it up we could become real big |
| 17:09.39 | PleegWat | I'm real happy with the way the 1.7.2 beta is working out |
| 17:09.42 | MillerM | ahh yea bandwidth is a dime a dozen gigs nowadays |
| 17:09.46 | Anaxent | oh yes we could |
| 17:10.01 | MillerM | used to be thats where you would have to dish out the big bucks |
| 17:10.06 | PleegWat | It's out for 2 days or so and we've got about 10 reported bugs already |
| 17:10.26 | MillerM | thats good |
| 17:10.39 | MillerM | that means a lot more people are testing it and reporting back |
| 17:10.44 | PleegWat | yeah |
| 17:11.01 | MillerM | used to be roster would have a major bug for months before anyone would report it lol |
| 17:11.16 | PleegWat | the closed betas simply didn't work |
| 17:11.21 | MillerM | nopers |
| 17:11.26 | MillerM | not enough dedication lol |
| 17:11.50 | MillerM | you think we should open the svn? |
| 17:12.10 | PleegWat | We could, but there's often less stable code in there |
| 17:12.22 | MillerM | i mean for situations like this |
| 17:12.30 | MillerM | we could release a "release candidate" |
| 17:12.43 | MillerM | thats true |
| 17:12.50 | Anaxent | what was the reason we copuld not use auth in the trac for viewing |
| 17:13.01 | PleegWat | release candidate is the stage after beta |
| 17:13.21 | MillerM | well we need to make an open beta program then? |
| 17:13.35 | PleegWat | We have open beta atm |
| 17:13.57 | PleegWat | The revisions in SVN don't really need to be all public |
| 17:14.07 | PleegWat | There's no critical stuff fixed or anything |
| 17:14.17 | PleegWat | We'll just release beta2 next week with the fixes |
| 17:15.01 | MillerM | cool |
| 17:15.06 | MillerM | so beta1 is released? |
| 17:15.26 | MillerM | I've been working on a forum addon, |
| 17:15.38 | PleegWat | yeah, 1.7.2 beta 1 is out since thursday or so |
| 17:15.43 | MillerM | nice |
| 17:16.06 | MillerM | i thought you said we released 1.7.2 and it was buggy |
| 17:16.14 | MillerM | i misunderstood |
| 17:16.15 | PleegWat | no, we released a beta |
| 17:16.34 | PleegWat | We released 1.7.1 and it was buggy, and that was after a closed beta period |
| 17:16.48 | PleegWat | Back then zanix and me stuck our heads together and decided to do open betas in the future |
| 17:17.06 | MillerM | our svn trac program was eating 100% cpu again and I had to kill it, thats what was slowing our box down |
| 17:17.14 | PleegWat | ah |
| 17:17.38 | MillerM | wise decision |
| 17:18.05 | MillerM | this makes me happy |
| 17:18.06 | MillerM | 8th furcas $10.00 |
| 17:18.06 | MillerM | 6th crperryjr $10.00 |
| 17:18.06 | MillerM | 3rd Wingforce $100.00 |
| 17:18.06 | MillerM | 1st zanix $10.00 |
| 17:18.17 | PleegWat | esp. wingforce |
| 17:18.23 | MillerM | a happy camper i am :) |
| 17:19.13 | PleegWat | Must've registered especially to donate |
| 17:19.14 | PleegWat | Guy's got 0 posts |
| 17:19.14 | MillerM | heh |
| 17:19.14 | MillerM | wish we could give donators a special pass or something |
| 17:19.26 | PleegWat | hm, don't think there's a need myself |
| 17:19.35 | MillerM | yea true |
| 17:19.47 | MillerM | would be nice to see how much people donated on the forums |
| 17:19.55 | PleegWat | They get the 1 month of fame on the donate box |
| 17:19.59 | MillerM | like next to their posts |
| 17:20.05 | MillerM | lol :) |
| 17:20.21 | PleegWat | Can be done probably. Ask anax or zanix |
| 17:21.27 | MillerM | does UU still work? |
| 17:21.32 | MillerM | http://wowroster.net/Forums/viewtopic/p=10776.html#10776 |
| 17:21.42 | PleegWat | wouldn't see why not |
| 17:22.36 | PleegWat | There isn't really anything changing from that perspective |
| 17:22.45 | PleegWat | All files still in the same directories etc. |
| 17:23.20 | MillerM | cool |
| 17:23.43 | MillerM | frosty did a lot of fine tuning in that area last year |
| 17:23.55 | PleegWat | I often get the feeling people underestimate how resillient we are against wow patches |
| 17:24.04 | MillerM | so i didnt think frosty would change it more |
| 17:24.08 | MillerM | LOL |
| 17:24.09 | PleegWat | The CP changes gave us more work than the actual changes in wow |
| 17:24.20 | MillerM | really? |
| 17:24.32 | PleegWat | I'll admit, we didn't do the character page layout upgrade yet |
| 17:24.34 | MillerM | better changes? |
| 17:25.31 | PleegWat | there was 'some' reorganization of data in the CP.lua |
| 17:25.38 | MillerM | lol |
| 17:25.54 | MillerM | you guys know update.php like the back of your hands now lol |
| 17:26.02 | MillerM | am i right? |
| 17:26.07 | PleegWat | It's zanix's territory |
| 18:04.46 | Anaxent | there is a subscriptions module for dragonfly that could add new functions to user groups |
| 18:05.02 | Anaxent | so if peeps were to donate they could have access to.... |
| 18:05.29 | Anaxent | http://dfaddons.com/index.php?name=Downloads&file=details&id=22 |
| 18:05.54 | Anaxent | Module features-- |
| 18:05.55 | Anaxent | --Use CCBill, Paypal or Stormpay. Or use all three options at once!! |
| 18:05.55 | Anaxent | --Add users manually! |
| 18:05.55 | Anaxent | --Edit subscribers information! |
| 18:05.55 | Anaxent | --Automatically move user to specific group and give user special rank once payment is verified |
| 18:05.56 | Anaxent | --Seperate the subscriptions into categories for different types or groups |
| 18:05.58 | Anaxent | --add your own images to terms page and subscriptions page |
| 18:06.00 | Anaxent | --Subscription duration options , set number of days, weeks, months, years or lifetime |
| 18:06.02 | Anaxent | --Give out free trial subscription for a group that user can only use once. |
| 18:49.39 | MillerM | intaresting |
| 19:01.29 | Anaxent | yeah |
| 19:01.41 | Anaxent | not sure as of yet how we could use it here |
| 19:02.10 | Anaxent | unless we really thought about direction of roster |
| 19:02.43 | Anaxent | I have a co worker here that im working with that have been building a frame work that includes smarty and ajax classes |
| 19:02.56 | Anaxent | but it only works with php5 which is a big bummer |
| 19:03.11 | Anaxent | im working on getting ahold of the framework to play around with |
| 19:03.27 | Anaxent | and was going to give it upto Zanix for a few new ideas |
| 19:03.52 | Anaxent | this opens a few doors but could also shut a few more |
| 19:04.46 | Anaxent | it could allow a much faster roster system with many new features like with in a cms style app due to php5 and such but would kick all the php4 users out of the water |
| 19:05.15 | Anaxent | this is where say roster hosting could come in but these are just ideas that I have had |
| 19:05.32 | Anaxent | and would really depend on the framwok my buddy is building |
| 19:07.28 | Anaxent | as soon as he comes intoday i was planning on loading it on a php4 system to see what all breaks though |
| 19:08.48 | MillerM | i upgraded our db |
| 19:08.50 | MillerM | its 5 now |
| 19:09.09 | Anaxent | cool |
| 19:09.21 | Anaxent | and no issues so far thats great |
| 19:09.31 | Anaxent | what was up with the server load that last week or so |
| 19:10.08 | MillerM | cvs trac = 100% CPU |
| 19:10.15 | Anaxent | ah.. |
| 19:10.16 | MillerM | it bugs out |
| 19:10.21 | MillerM | i had to kill it again lol |
| 19:10.22 | Anaxent | trac has been down as well |
| 19:10.33 | MillerM | well svn is up |
| 19:10.38 | MillerM | just trac is down |
| 19:10.41 | Anaxent | bit since there is now viewing it was no biggie |
| 19:10.54 | MillerM | but its ok cuz you can pull up the svn log easily through tortoise svn |
| 19:11.00 | Anaxent | right |
| 19:11.54 | MillerM | ive been tinkering with a forums addon |
| 19:11.59 | MillerM | its gonna be nice |
| 19:12.38 | MillerM | do we have smarty integrated with roster 1.x yet anax? |
| 19:13.26 | Anaxent | no |
| 19:13.47 | MillerM | check it out anax. THe school i work at as the "web designer" well the CIO finally let me put PHP on the web server and i have a mssql db at my disposal |
| 19:13.48 | Anaxent | that would all be for 2.0+ |
| 19:13.57 | MillerM | ahh yea |
| 19:14.13 | MillerM | well im gonna make an entire cms for our college |
| 19:14.19 | Anaxent | nice |
| 19:14.26 | Anaxent | that would be cool |
| 19:14.29 | MillerM | but i havent been able to connect to the db directly |
| 19:14.42 | MillerM | only using the odbc connection which is not ideal |
| 19:14.42 | Anaxent | why? |
| 19:14.49 | MillerM | i dont know man |
| 19:14.51 | Anaxent | oh i see |
| 19:15.10 | MillerM | i was researching that for half of friday |
| 19:15.46 | Anaxent | what school |
| 19:15.53 | MillerM | but once i get it working im gonna use http://pear.php.net/package/MDB2 to do database things |
| 19:16.00 | MillerM | lscc |
| 19:16.07 | MillerM | http://www.lscc.edu |
| 19:16.14 | Anaxent | i hear pear is good |
| 19:16.20 | MillerM | pear is excellent |
| 19:16.24 | Anaxent | but isn't it a big package |
| 19:16.34 | MillerM | its no problem |
| 19:16.39 | MillerM | im not gonna distribute it |
| 19:16.43 | MillerM | its only for our college |
| 19:16.45 | Anaxent | true |
| 19:16.52 | MillerM | and maybe other colleges that want to adopt it |
| 19:17.05 | MillerM | i already installed pear and the mdb2 package |
| 19:17.11 | MillerM | which is working fine |
| 19:17.24 | MillerM | but the darn connection between php and mssql is borked |
| 19:17.53 | MillerM | once i get that figured out i can start building the entire CMS :) |
| 19:18.54 | Anaxent | I added bbcode buttons to my froums so now i can now embed google, youtube and myspace videos |
| 19:20.23 | Anaxent | oh i need to get ahold of flukes at worldofwar.net |
| 19:20.45 | Anaxent | he said he was going to build a new .dll for us to use getid() |
| 19:21.05 | Anaxent | and then we could interface UU/UA to there addon db im thinking |
| 19:21.44 | MillerM | right |
| 19:21.50 | MillerM | your forums? |
| 19:22.00 | MillerM | you made a roster forums addon? |
| 19:22.20 | MillerM | give me the url and ill try and integrate it with the next version of uu |
| 19:22.28 | MillerM | the dll |
| 19:22.43 | Anaxent | I will let you know as soon as I hear back from flukes |
| 19:23.06 | Anaxent | nat an addon just added to the nbbcode.php |
| 19:23.16 | Anaxent | http://infragilisguild.com/index.php?name=ForumsPro&file=viewtopic&p=239#239 |
| 19:23.22 | Anaxent | my forums with youtube vid |
| 19:23.34 | Anaxent | but for somereason it only plays in IE |
| 19:23.41 | Anaxent | still trying to figure that part out |
| 19:26.10 | MillerM | My Account › User Login |
| 19:26.24 | MillerM | i cant view your forums withought an auth cookie |
| 19:26.32 | MillerM | or to register and login |
| 19:26.33 | Anaxent | ok one sec ill open them up |
| 19:26.43 | MillerM | wow very colorful |
| 19:26.49 | MillerM | i like the colors |
| 19:27.25 | Anaxent | ok should allow u in now |
| 19:27.28 | Anaxent | and thx |
| 19:27.28 | MillerM | does the killsheet use data from roster db? |
| 19:27.56 | Anaxent | no not yet |
| 19:28.12 | Anaxent | im manually editing it for now |
| 19:28.19 | MillerM | its sill xferring data from utube |
| 19:28.27 | Anaxent | was planning on connecting it to bosskils |
| 19:28.33 | Anaxent | yes it is |
| 19:29.07 | MillerM | http://demontest.us/untitled.bmp |
| 19:29.29 | MillerM | hold on its still xferring |
| 19:29.36 | MillerM | slow upload speed only 640k |
| 19:30.40 | MillerM | 350k |
| 19:31.56 | MillerM | wow i like your forums icons |
| 19:34.43 | *** part/#wowroster MillerM (n=asoidhf@c-69-241-206-35.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 19:34.58 | *** join/#wowroster MillerM (n=asoidhf@c-69-241-206-35.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 19:35.11 | *** join/#wowroster Anaxent (n=Anaxent@209-250-16-194.convergentaz.net) |
| 19:35.11 | *** mode/#wowroster [+o Anaxent] by ChanServ |
| 19:35.22 | Anaxent | damn cpu crashed |
| 19:35.29 | Anaxent | what was that last link |
| 19:36.41 | MillerM | lol |
| 19:36.46 | MillerM | ill redo it in jpg |
| 19:37.26 | MillerM | welcome back |
| 19:38.09 | MillerM | http://demontest.us/untitled.jpg |
| 19:38.51 | Anaxent | so in IE it is clicable to play the vid |
| 19:38.59 | MillerM | ur plz |
| 19:39.00 | MillerM | url |
| 19:39.05 | Anaxent | in FF i can play the vid in preview mode before i post |
| 19:39.24 | Anaxent | http://infragilisguild.com/index.php?name=ForumsPro&file=viewtopic&t=97 |
| 19:39.43 | Anaxent | nvm it is now playing in FF for me |
| 19:39.56 | MillerM | http://infragilisguild.com/index.php?name=ForumsPro&file=viewtopic&p=239 |
| 19:40.36 | MillerM | works great in IE |
| 19:41.28 | Anaxent | im also now using 2 php scripts to auto rotage images and each click for the site background and the header background |
| 19:42.33 | MillerM | wow tier 5? |
| 19:42.44 | MillerM | WOW |
| 19:42.45 | Anaxent | yeah |
| 19:42.57 | Anaxent | wow...WOW...waoh man damn hot |
| 19:43.07 | Anaxent | 4 is kicken |
| 19:43.21 | Anaxent | and 5 just ... sorry no words |
| 19:43.36 | Anaxent | u see the lock gear |
| 19:45.12 | MillerM | dude HOLY SHIT |
| 19:45.30 | Anaxent | lol yeah I know |
| 19:46.34 | Anaxent | u watched the tier 4 vid first right? |
| 19:46.46 | Anaxent | makes the 5 seem godlly |
| 19:47.52 | MillerM | yes |
| 19:47.54 | MillerM | omfg |
| 19:48.01 | MillerM | makes me want to play wow again |
| 19:48.05 | Anaxent | lol |
| 19:48.16 | Anaxent | yeah I know how u feel |
| 19:48.22 | MillerM | but i know ill only be hurt by it |
| 19:48.27 | MillerM | wow is evil |
| 19:48.29 | Anaxent | I still play and all but was thinking of taking a long break |
| 19:48.46 | Anaxent | but after getting a bc key im thinking twice |
| 19:48.47 | MillerM | my guild kicked me out, and wouldnt let me back in |
| 19:48.55 | MillerM | really? |
| 19:49.03 | Anaxent | I still say we build a wowroster.net guild |
| 19:49.11 | MillerM | i think we should |
| 19:49.31 | MillerM | because we all have the same ideas about integration between wow and websites |
| 19:49.33 | Anaxent | roll on a pve server so we can play/test both horde and alliance |
| 19:49.47 | MillerM | ok |
| 19:49.50 | MillerM | what server |
| 19:49.58 | Anaxent | this would allow us to gain the same outcome and making it greater than it already is |
| 19:50.08 | MillerM | yes |
| 19:50.15 | MillerM | and we have nothing holding us back |
| 19:50.19 | Anaxent | im up for any new or old rather new though |
| 19:50.38 | Anaxent | I would even char transfer my druid and mage if possiable |
| 19:50.39 | MillerM | everything we do on our site will be amplified and refined greatly by each others opinions |
| 19:50.45 | MillerM | because we all have the right experience |
| 19:50.55 | MillerM | i would as well |
| 19:51.19 | MillerM | why pve though |
| 19:51.34 | Anaxent | i say pvp only to play both horde and alliance |
| 19:51.50 | Anaxent | it would allow us to gather data for anything i would think |
| 19:52.00 | Anaxent | but really makes no diffrence to me |
| 19:52.00 | MillerM | yup |
| 19:52.19 | Anaxent | plus my gf wants to play a bloodelf lol |
| 19:52.29 | MillerM | i made guildsite but it was lacking in the alliance support area badly lol |
| 19:53.20 | MillerM | so what do you want to do |
| 19:53.48 | MillerM | i would have fun playing if it was with roster dev team members |
| 19:55.18 | *** mode/#wowroster [+o MillerM] by Anaxent |
| 19:56.20 | Anaxent | yeah me too |
| 19:56.32 | Anaxent | I have more fun coding or learning code anyways |
| 19:56.50 | Anaxent | I feel it to be too much of a grind anymore in so many ways |
| 19:57.14 | Anaxent | can u view pms right now |
| 19:57.19 | Anaxent | I pm u in irc |
| 20:01.08 | Anaxent | so where on wows site could i find new upcomming servers |
| 20:10.14 | MillerM | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/realmstatus/ |
| 20:12.36 | MillerM | hmmmmmmm |
| 20:12.56 | Anaxent | there are alot of servers now |
| 20:13.11 | MillerM | i would honestly have fun if everyone around me was as enthusiastic about this stuff as i |
| 20:13.17 | MillerM | as in the same guild |
| 20:13.31 | Anaxent | yeah i hear ya |
| 20:13.57 | Anaxent | but most of us all have been playing for so long with our guilds as it is so it would be hard for them to just start over |
| 20:14.00 | MillerM | not just "how easy it is to administer the DKP system" |
| 20:14.14 | MillerM | but "how well wow integrates with our website" |
| 20:14.35 | MillerM | its not hard for me |
| 20:14.49 | MillerM | im clean slate sir, i could start over right now if i wanted |
| 20:15.03 | Anaxent | it could allow us to build a site that could be used by every guild out there |
| 20:15.13 | MillerM | like calvins |
| 20:15.18 | Anaxent | right |
| 20:15.19 | MillerM | that area is covered |
| 20:15.31 | Anaxent | good morning |
| 20:15.33 | Zanix | hiya matt |
| 20:15.35 | MillerM | hi Z |
| 20:15.43 | Zanix | morning |
| 20:15.46 | MillerM | how are you feeling today sir! |
| 20:16.05 | Zanix | good, tired...like I just woke up n' stuff |
| 20:16.09 | MillerM | lol |
| 20:16.15 | Zanix | glad im over that stomach thing |
| 20:16.31 | MillerM | anaxent, pleegster and I have been talking about some fun stuff |
| 20:16.40 | MillerM | you had a stomach thing? |
| 20:16.43 | Zanix | you guys ahve talked so much that the log has overflowed in xchat :p |
| 20:17.09 | MillerM | you need mirc : |
| 20:17.10 | MillerM | :P |
| 20:17.22 | Zanix | dont wanna pay for uncrappy version |
| 20:17.39 | Zanix | its probably just a setting |
| 20:18.34 | MillerM | lawl |
| 20:18.47 | MillerM | hay z |
| 20:18.54 | MillerM | lets start a new guild on a server |
| 20:18.58 | MillerM | a wow roster guild |
| 20:19.05 | Zanix | uh, ok :) |
| 20:19.11 | Zanix | im game |
| 20:19.11 | MillerM | your in? |
| 20:19.15 | MillerM | awesome |
| 20:19.23 | MillerM | anaxent and I are in |
| 20:19.24 | Anaxent | well damn that was easier that I expected |
| 20:19.27 | MillerM | LOL |
| 20:19.28 | Anaxent | lol |
| 20:19.36 | Zanix | why's that anax? |
| 20:19.52 | Anaxent | <Anaxent> but most of us all have been playing for so long with our guilds as it is so it would be hard for them to just start over |
| 20:19.57 | MillerM | ana thought you would be reluctant |
| 20:20.08 | Zanix | no, will I ever have time to play is the question... |
| 20:20.19 | Zanix | i only have 2 other cahracters |
| 20:20.24 | Zanix | well, 3 now |
| 20:20.29 | *** join/#wowroster drachengnom (n=dracheng@p50905923.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:20.30 | MillerM | but when you DO play your guildies will be us |
| 20:20.37 | drachengnom | hello |
| 20:20.38 | Zanix | 60 hunter, 19 shaman, 13 mage |
| 20:20.42 | Zanix | hi drac |
| 20:20.47 | MillerM | hi there |
| 20:20.47 | Anaxent | char transfer ftw |
| 20:20.48 | drachengnom | can someone help me? |
| 20:20.51 | Anaxent | hey hows it going man |
| 20:20.54 | Zanix | we can try |
| 20:20.55 | MillerM | exactly |
| 20:20.59 | MillerM | we can try |
| 20:21.03 | Zanix | lol |
| 20:21.14 | drachengnom | i habe the roster installed 1.7.1 |
| 20:21.17 | MillerM | so lets try |
| 20:21.30 | drachengnom | than i have used the new char profiler |
| 20:21.33 | MillerM | is your 1.7.1 roster working? |
| 20:21.35 | Zanix | "<MillerM> but when you DO play your guildies will be us" << very true |
| 20:21.52 | Zanix | 1.7.1 is not compatible with CharacterProfiler 2.0.1 |
| 20:21.52 | drachengnom | äthe roster is work but the charprofiler not |
| 20:22.03 | drachengnom | :( |
| 20:22.05 | MillerM | curse gaming has a guild |
| 20:22.08 | MillerM | curse-gaming.com |
| 20:22.17 | Zanix | if you are feeling adventurous, try the beta |
| 20:22.27 | Zanix | 1.7.2 |
| 20:22.34 | MillerM | yes try beta 1 |
| 20:22.46 | drachengnom | is this better one? |
| 20:22.47 | MillerM | where did you download cp from |
| 20:22.48 | Zanix | looks for the forum titled "The BETA Files" |
| 20:22.57 | Zanix | on our site |
| 20:23.13 | drachengnom | ok i make a new installation to the betafiles |
| 20:23.18 | MillerM | oh zanix i had to kill svn trac again lol |
| 20:23.18 | Zanix | remember, its a beta...so read the rules about it |
| 20:23.26 | Zanix | yeah, I saw your email |
| 20:23.35 | Zanix | stupid cpu hog |
| 20:23.39 | MillerM | lawl |
| 20:23.41 | Zanix | i liked it soooo much |
| 20:23.45 | Zanix | *sniffle* |
| 20:23.47 | MillerM | it buggs out for some reason |
| 20:23.55 | Zanix | yeah |
| 20:23.57 | drachengnom | thank you very much for your help :) |
| 20:24.04 | Zanix | notta problem |
| 20:24.05 | MillerM | you can still pull up the svn log through tortoise svn though |
| 20:24.15 | drachengnom | :elephant |
| 20:24.17 | Zanix | yeah, just that it was all pretty |
| 20:24.22 | MillerM | true |
| 20:24.25 | MillerM | it was tight |
| 20:24.25 | Zanix | oh well, I can deal |
| 20:24.36 | Zanix | or look for another one for the time being |
| 20:24.51 | MillerM | hmmmmmmmmmmmm |
| 20:24.53 | drachengnom | oki i must go. I wish you a merry Christmas @all |
| 20:24.58 | MillerM | wish i could program my own |
| 20:25.04 | MillerM | you too drachengnom |
| 20:25.07 | Zanix | happy holidays and such to you drac |
| 20:25.08 | MillerM | take care |
| 20:25.16 | drachengnom | bye |
| 20:25.16 | Zanix | laterz |
| 20:25.24 | Zanix | or just forget it and move on |
| 20:25.28 | Zanix | lol |
| 20:25.30 | MillerM | lawl |
| 20:25.47 | Zanix | so I talked to anthony last night |
| 20:25.54 | Zanix | did he get ahold of you matt? |
| 20:25.54 | Anaxent | really |
| 20:26.10 | Zanix | he said he sent a pm via the forum |
| 20:26.11 | Anaxent | its been a very very long time since ive seen him through these necks of the woods |
| 20:26.32 | Zanix | it has |
| 20:26.41 | Anaxent | everything ok with him |
| 20:26.47 | Zanix | oh yeah |
| 20:27.11 | Zanix | RL taking priority and such |
| 20:27.27 | MillerM | ab is a good fella |
| 20:27.41 | Zanix | yeah he is, I have missed him |
| 20:27.41 | MillerM | too bad he puts himself down so much |
| 20:28.03 | Zanix | so, you got the pm then matt? |
| 20:28.17 | MillerM | neg |
| 20:28.28 | MillerM | abs pm? |
| 20:28.38 | Zanix | yeah |
| 20:28.42 | MillerM | neg |
| 20:28.51 | Zanix | he said he was going to send you one |
| 20:28.54 | Zanix | oh well |
| 20:28.58 | MillerM | mmmm] |
| 20:29.13 | Anaxent | hey Zanix check this out |
| 20:29.14 | Anaxent | http://infragilisguild.com/index.php?name=ForumsPro&file=viewtopic&p=239#239 |
| 20:29.20 | Zanix | anthony has officially retired from wow, and therefore wowroster.net |
| 20:29.34 | Zanix | youtube |
| 20:29.51 | MillerM | i blame myself for his reluctance to take part in our projects because of the "mad admin" avatar I made for him back in the day. After I made that for him he hasn't been the same. |
| 20:30.04 | Anaxent | bbcode for youtube, google, and myspace vids |
| 20:30.24 | MillerM | i havent played wow in a long time |
| 20:30.31 | MillerM | but i still want to dev for roster |
| 20:30.53 | MillerM | unless you don't want me to |
| 20:31.00 | MillerM | thats cool ill work on other stuff |
| 20:31.15 | Zanix | there you go, talking your self down as well |
| 20:31.16 | MillerM | i would start playing wow again if we make a guild though |
| 20:31.25 | Zanix | stay damnit |
| 20:31.28 | Zanix | lol |
| 20:31.32 | MillerM | im here |
| 20:31.37 | MillerM | im lost LOL |
| 20:31.42 | MillerM | im a simpleton |
| 20:32.55 | MillerM | zanix you have always considered me a maniac/mental/basket case right? |
| 20:33.20 | Zanix | of course! |
| 20:33.22 | Zanix | lol |
| 20:33.24 | MillerM | woot |
| 20:33.30 | MillerM | that felt good |
| 20:33.31 | MillerM | :D |
| 20:33.33 | Zanix | everyone is to a certain extent |
| 20:33.38 | MillerM | exactly |
| 20:33.46 | MillerM | i consider my mentality an asset |
| 20:34.14 | MillerM | i had an eval in october and now im sampling anti depressants |
| 20:34.19 | MillerM | they seem to be helping |
| 20:34.26 | Zanix | ooo, any cool looking ones? |
| 20:34.35 | Zanix | like shapes and colors |
| 20:34.39 | Zanix | hehe |
| 20:34.59 | MillerM | no :( just plain white pills, well actually if i stare at one for a long time i bet i can imagine some cool stuff |
| 20:36.08 | Zanix | lol |
| 20:37.37 | MillerM | honestly though |
| 20:37.37 | MillerM | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypomania |
| 20:37.57 | Zanix | anax, i just noticed |
| 20:38.03 | Zanix | you copied my avatar area |
| 20:38.12 | Zanix | im so flattered |
| 20:38.39 | MillerM | link? |
| 20:38.57 | MillerM | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:38.57 | Anaxent | lol yeah I think it is big though |
| 20:39.12 | Anaxent | I copied it that one day you showed me to change all my divs to tables |
| 20:39.33 | Zanix | sweet "Possible benefits of hypomania" |
| 20:39.34 | MillerM | you know anax |
| 20:39.41 | Zanix | thats awesome |
| 20:39.45 | Anaxent | i have not gotten around to changing the avatar image bakgroun\d yet to something smaller so I decided to make my avatars bigger for the time being |
| 20:39.46 | MillerM | we should make chat rooms for each guild too |
| 20:39.50 | MillerM | using pjirc |
| 20:39.59 | MillerM | that would be extra easy |
| 20:40.31 | Zanix | and extra shecksy |
| 20:40.38 | Anaxent | true that |
| 20:40.50 | MillerM | extra hawt |
| 20:40.55 | MillerM | call the fire dept |
| 20:41.13 | MillerM | lol j/k |
| 20:41.29 | MillerM | so anaxent |
| 20:41.32 | MillerM | zanix |
| 20:41.36 | Zanix | yo |
| 20:41.39 | MillerM | you guys up to this or what |
| 20:41.55 | MillerM | lets do our wowroster guild |
| 20:42.12 | Anaxent | im in |
| 20:42.22 | Anaxent | I have always liked this idea |
| 20:42.43 | Anaxent | lol ohhhh subsciptions to join the guild.... hahaha |
| 20:43.13 | Zanix | wow, not a bad idea |
| 20:43.41 | Anaxent | well matt and plegg brout up the idea for users that have donated to get something special |
| 20:44.31 | Anaxent | I know there is a subscriptions module that gives special access to groups but i think could only help us after 2.0 |
| 20:44.41 | Zanix | true |
| 20:44.58 | Anaxent | depending on what routes roster takes |
| 20:44.59 | Zanix | i dont think we have anythig special to give atm |
| 20:45.04 | Anaxent | right |
| 20:45.10 | Zanix | was beta access |
| 20:45.18 | MillerM | to make anything serious we need to develop a payment module similar to the one we have now which allows access to certain roster addons |
| 20:45.20 | Anaxent | exept for priority support that we are not ready for |
| 20:45.24 | Zanix | now we are doing public open betas, so |
| 20:45.48 | Zanix | that too matt and anax |
| 20:46.03 | MillerM | hmm |
| 20:46.08 | Zanix | heck, we can barely do regular support, lol |
| 20:46.19 | Anaxent | yeah |
| 20:46.28 | MillerM | why arent we ready for priority support |
| 20:46.32 | MillerM | zanix |
| 20:46.34 | Anaxent | and with no framewrok or coding standards it is hard to do |
| 20:46.43 | MillerM | hmmm |
| 20:46.51 | Anaxent | cuz you don't show up enough to suppot these guys |
| 20:46.55 | Anaxent | lol |
| 20:47.08 | MillerM | so right now the best thing we can do is create a standards document on our wiki |
| 20:47.10 | Zanix | rofl, none of us are here enough |
| 20:47.22 | MillerM | lol sorry |
| 20:47.31 | MillerM | i play too much cs |
| 20:47.33 | Zanix | it's all good |
| 20:47.41 | Anaxent | with roster hosting there could be more posibilitys |
| 20:47.43 | Zanix | I dont expect us all to be here 24 7 of course |
| 20:48.11 | Anaxent | just 24 / 6 right |
| 20:48.12 | MillerM | you guys know we need to rent a dedicated server in order to host roster hosting |
| 20:48.18 | Anaxent | right |
| 20:48.24 | Anaxent | I work for a hosting company |
| 20:48.43 | MillerM | cool anaxent so can you sub us for a sufficient package? |
| 20:48.53 | MillerM | linux is preferrable |
| 20:48.59 | Zanix | anax is our ticket if we so decide to do that |
| 20:49.01 | MillerM | am i on a tangent again? |
| 20:49.04 | Anaxent | I can find a great deal and yes linux |
| 20:49.13 | Zanix | tangents are good |
| 20:49.18 | MillerM | sorry i spun off again |
| 20:49.25 | Zanix | it all good |
| 20:49.35 | Zanix | i do that all the time as well |
| 20:49.40 | Anaxent | and item cache db comes in as well |
| 20:50.01 | Anaxent | tieing this all down to the heart of wow is wowroster |
| 20:50.08 | MillerM | yes |
| 20:50.16 | MillerM | we need a management console for us |
| 20:50.24 | Anaxent | as in/ like |
| 20:50.26 | MillerM | to tie all the wowroster installs together |
| 20:50.37 | MillerM | and remoteley install |
| 20:50.41 | Anaxent | say for hosting? |
| 20:50.42 | MillerM | ? |
| 20:50.59 | MillerM | sorry my thought just reset |
| 20:51.00 | MillerM | brb |
| 20:51.06 | Anaxent | lol |
| 20:51.09 | Anaxent | it happens |
| 20:51.46 | Zanix | i hate it when that happens, gotta wait for it to load all back up |
| 20:51.55 | Anaxent | "to tie all the wowroster installs together |
| 20:51.55 | Anaxent | <MillerM> and remoteley install" plesk can be used here making what we call skeliton packages which is just a pakage of files for the users home dir |
| 20:52.05 | Anaxent | ans symlink all the images |
| 20:53.04 | Zanix | and most of the files for that matter |
| 20:53.17 | MillerM | symlink all the images |
| 20:53.21 | MillerM | thats a good idea |
| 20:53.28 | MillerM | that would save a LOT on overhead |
| 20:53.45 | MillerM | BUT |
| 20:53.50 | MillerM | hmmm |
| 20:53.53 | MillerM | oh yea |
| 20:53.59 | Anaxent | yep and because we are in control we add image paks when they are avaliabe when we fix a file it is fixed across the farm |
| 20:54.30 | MillerM | in the plesk install you can set everything in the interface dir to links to the central interface folder on the server hard drive |
| 20:54.37 | MillerM | yea |
| 20:54.38 | MillerM | wow |
| 20:54.44 | MillerM | thats a great idea anax |
| 20:54.55 | Anaxent | if roster is designed into a sort of cms with addons/modules we could add or remove at anytime |
| 20:55.13 | Anaxent | the users would not have the need for ftp we could use phpupload or phpftp |
| 20:55.44 | MillerM | we need control over the addons installed on clients' roster installs |
| 20:56.03 | MillerM | control is the key |
| 20:56.09 | Anaxent | that too could be done I would asume |
| 20:56.12 | Zanix | they could just submit a ticket to install a certain addon |
| 20:56.21 | MillerM | we can control these things easily, it helps both the customer and us |
| 20:56.24 | Anaxent | pleask has a ticket system as well |
| 20:56.39 | Anaxent | man Matt I thought I built u an account in plesk on my server to check itout |
| 20:56.59 | MillerM | i think you did something in plesk i cant remember exactly atm |
| 20:57.09 | MillerM | exactly zanix |
| 20:57.14 | MillerM | you got it |
| 20:57.41 | MillerM | calvin had all of this worked out long ago |
| 20:57.54 | MillerM | he made his guild hosting site |
| 20:58.04 | Anaxent | is he building his site with coldfussion? |
| 20:58.13 | MillerM | we cant use any ideas from his site or we could be legally shafted |
| 20:58.38 | Anaxent | well his site is made mostly for a profiling system right? |
| 20:58.38 | MillerM | he built it with coldfusion |
| 20:59.06 | MillerM | thats what i thought |
| 20:59.15 | Anaxent | where users would still have a website where there users would have links that link them back to ctprofile |
| 20:59.36 | Anaxent | this is more of an all in one package idea |
| 20:59.37 | MillerM | exactly |
| 20:59.42 | MillerM | yuyop |
| 21:00.19 | MillerM | we can do this with enough planning i think |
| 21:01.19 | MillerM | if we ever (god forbid) run out of server resources we simply turn off the application process or even make a "queue" of waiting accounts until we can get another server |
| 21:01.37 | Anaxent | these have all been thoughts that I have had and have talked about a little bit |
| 21:01.50 | MillerM | what did you think |
| 21:02.00 | MillerM | what did you say |
| 21:02.08 | Anaxent | and became more of an idea afterI seen this dudes framewrok that is built for php5 |
| 21:02.29 | MillerM | what is "this dudes" |
| 21:02.33 | MillerM | who |
| 21:02.33 | Anaxent | due to most of our userbase not having php5 |
| 21:02.38 | Anaxent | a guy that I work with here |
| 21:02.52 | MillerM | he made a super CMS ? |
| 21:03.01 | Anaxent | just the framework |
| 21:03.11 | MillerM | same thing |
| 21:03.14 | Anaxent | smarty classes and ajax class built in as well |
| 21:03.19 | MillerM | nice |
| 21:03.42 | MillerM | i was thinking about ajax, i even made a chat application using ajax/db/aspx |
| 21:03.58 | MillerM | ajax is nice but it so much harder to develop for |
| 21:04.02 | PleegWat | R1.8 has an ajax framework |
| 21:04.08 | Anaxent | he also built his own db class that only works with most sql type dbs, my, ms, post |
| 21:04.22 | MillerM | wow nice |
| 21:04.32 | PleegWat | Not much of one, but still |
| 21:04.51 | Zanix | hehe |
| 21:05.01 | Zanix | ok, i need to eat |
| 21:05.09 | MillerM | protection of our intellectual property should be considered as well? |
| 21:05.20 | Zanix | definatly |
| 21:05.27 | Zanix | Im starving, im gonna go eat |
| 21:05.32 | MillerM | ok Z seea after :) |
| 21:05.35 | MillerM | lol |
| 21:06.45 | Anaxent | so now with all this up in the air |
| 21:07.21 | Anaxent | we need to really think about the direction we are planning to take standards that should be put in place and such things like that |
| 21:07.43 | MillerM | right |
| 21:07.50 | PleegWat | yeah |
| 21:07.55 | PleegWat | Any new 1.7.2 bugreports? |
| 21:08.19 | MillerM | http://www.wowroster.net/wiki/index.php/Special:Search?search=standards&go=Go |
| 21:08.34 | PleegWat | I just got back btw, left BG cause of laggyness |
| 21:08.44 | MillerM | hiya welcome back pleeg |
| 21:09.10 | MillerM | we were talking about long term plans |
| 21:09.13 | MillerM | such as |
| 21:09.34 | MillerM | supporting many guilds in a roster hosting managed environment |
| 21:09.52 | PleegWat | IC |
| 21:10.15 | PleegWat | Charging them enough to keep the required servers running? |
| 21:10.35 | MillerM | anax, zanix, and I were talking about how we need our standards document finalized before proceeding with any managed hosting plan. |
| 21:10.45 | MillerM | yup |
| 21:11.24 | MillerM | wow im feelin good lol |
| 21:11.34 | MillerM | need to drink some water |
| 21:13.20 | MillerM | you know pleegwat, dont you think it would be 100X easier to develop a distributed guild solution rather than a "free for all" roster |
| 21:13.42 | PleegWat | how do you mean |
| 21:13.55 | MillerM | so we can hit a button on a guild management console to install the website, then roster is installed on our hosting server |
| 21:14.05 | MillerM | our specs |
| 21:14.10 | MillerM | we KNOW it will work |
| 21:14.30 | MillerM | because we designed our code to work with exactly that hardware/software |
| 21:14.47 | PleegWat | I think that's something completely different from what we're doing right now |
| 21:14.55 | MillerM | we can even optomize it using symlinks in linux to use only 1 place for the interface folder |
| 21:14.58 | MillerM | it is |
| 21:15.12 | MillerM | it is COMPLETLEY different than what were doing now |
| 21:15.16 | PleegWat | Roster is one of a kind. |
| 21:15.28 | MillerM | and Calvin has done this from a Profiler point of view |
| 21:15.31 | PleegWat | There is no other package that allows wow guild websites like ours |
| 21:15.40 | MillerM | thats right |
| 21:15.54 | PleegWat | There are dozens of profiling sites we'd be competing with |
| 21:16.03 | PleegWat | Sure, we'd have guild support, but we're not the only ones |
| 21:16.17 | MillerM | besides rpgo? |
| 21:16.18 | PleegWat | Plus the whole addons system, which is growing pretty popular, wouldn't work anymore |
| 21:16.44 | MillerM | what sorry please reitterate WHAT wouldnt work anymore |
| 21:16.45 | MillerM | sorry |
| 21:17.14 | PleegWat | Users writing their own addons to the roste code |
| 21:17.31 | PleegWat | With what you're proposing the only ones writing code for the website are the developers |
| 21:17.57 | MillerM | nono |
| 21:18.42 | Zanix|food | mmm, oatmeal |
| 21:18.44 | MillerM | the customers would be able to do anything they wish with their home directory (ie. add phpbb, a cms, something else) |
| 21:18.58 | Zanix | that was good |
| 21:19.01 | MillerM | zanix tell pleeg what we were talking about plz |
| 21:19.03 | MillerM | lol |
| 21:19.12 | MillerM | i need nutrients brb |
| 21:19.12 | PleegWat | I've got nothing against setting up a managed roster hosting solution directly cooperating with the wowroster dev team. |
| 21:19.41 | Zanix | i dont wanna make roster a hosted only solution |
| 21:19.43 | PleegWat | But I don't think we should switch roster completely to that course and abandon wowroster as a package to be downloaded and installed on your own server |
| 21:20.02 | Zanix | just make the hosting an option |
| 21:20.12 | PleegWat | That's not what I was understanding from Matt |
| 21:20.23 | MillerM | back |
| 21:21.16 | MillerM | maybe i don't understand from zanix and anaxent |
| 21:22.07 | MillerM | anyway its some interesting stuff to think about |
| 21:22.22 | Zanix | it is |
| 21:22.31 | MillerM | anaxent has a better "big picture" than i |
| 21:22.37 | MillerM | so does zanix |
| 21:22.48 | Zanix | no much better than yours |
| 21:22.49 | Zanix | lol |
| 21:23.14 | Zanix | Ive kinda wanted to offer a hosing package for Roster for some time now |
| 21:23.27 | Zanix | and still offer it as a download to use yourself |
| 21:23.43 | PleegWat | Yes, that's what I'd mean |
| 21:23.55 | PleegWat | Keep developing roster primarily as a downloadable package |
| 21:24.24 | MillerM | you think thats the best way to move? |
| 21:24.28 | MillerM | the best action? |
| 21:24.40 | PleegWat | Use that package, or a modded version, to set up a hosting package |
| 21:25.14 | PleegWat | I've got nothing against setting up a hosting package. But I don't think developing like that should be our primary focus |
| 21:25.57 | Zanix | I do agree, we are unique that we offer Roster in the way we do now |
| 21:26.21 | PleegWat | Rather like how the DF port is developed. It's mainly by roster devs, and the roster is designed to make the DF port as simple as possible |
| 21:26.23 | PleegWat | But the standalone downloadable roster is our main focus in development. |
| 21:26.37 | Zanix | and those cahnges have made it easier to port to other cms's as well |
| 21:26.53 | PleegWat | exactly |
| 21:27.18 | PleegWat | And in the same way we could develop roster so that setting up a hosted package is as simple as possible, without the hosted package being prime focus |
| 21:27.56 | Zanix | exactly |
| 21:28.01 | Zanix | hosting is a great idea |
| 21:28.18 | Zanix | our system is built and supplemented by its users |
| 21:28.46 | Zanix | the addons system is great, it allows Roster to be extended |
| 21:29.06 | Zanix | or keep the core and not worry about all that |
| 21:29.26 | Zanix | "use what you need" |
| 21:29.41 | PleegWat | yes |
| 21:31.11 | PleegWat | I really need to get to work on the 1.8 permission system |
| 21:31.40 | Zanix | yes, so I can work on other stuff :p |
| 21:31.52 | Zanix | i think I'll work on UniAdmin this weekend |
| 21:32.00 | Zanix | so I can wrap up those fixes |
| 21:32.41 | Anaxent | ok so we give otions was my idea make roster a hosted solution with the ability if your server meets the specs you can download and use as well |
| 21:32.42 | PleegWat | So k lessee. User groups. That means 2 tables, a group table and a user-group relation table |
| 21:33.53 | Anaxent | and in reallity using the same code base as in we build roster 2.0 we build it as a guild managment solution that any guild can use as they are now but also offer the means of hosting |
| 21:34.45 | Anaxent | really now most peepsout there that are paying for hosting services are doing so just to host a guild website |
| 21:35.04 | Anaxent | they could be paying for much more then they need or use and even buy into the wrong thing |
| 21:35.37 | PleegWat | What properties does a user group have? ID primary key, Name unique key, group leader (NOT NULL?) |
| 21:39.10 | Anaxent | well a group id and user id |
| 21:39.33 | PleegWat | Well, you need 2 tables at least. One for the groups and one for the group memberships |
| 21:39.40 | Anaxent | show tables; |
| 21:39.51 | Anaxent | ah.. damn duel screens lol |
| 21:40.55 | Anaxent | im checking my db for my groups tables |
| 21:41.15 | Anaxent | there are 2 tablles groups and user_groups |
| 21:41.40 | Anaxent | groups has group_id | group_type | group_name | group_description | group_moderator | group_single_user |
| 21:42.13 | Anaxent | and user groups has |
| 21:42.14 | Anaxent | group_id | user_id | user_pending |
| 21:42.26 | PleegWat | What's group_type, group_single_user for? |
| 21:43.27 | Anaxent | type would be open, closed, hidden |
| 21:43.38 | PleegWat | ah, course |
| 21:51.04 | PleegWat | # -------------------------------------------------------- |
| 21:51.04 | PleegWat | ### Groups |
| 21:51.04 | PleegWat | DROP TABLE IF EXISTS `renprefix_groups`; |
| 21:51.04 | PleegWat | CREATE TABLE `renprefix_groups` ( |
| 21:51.04 | PleegWat | `group_id` int(11) AUTO_INCREMENT, |
| 21:51.05 | PleegWat | `group_name` varchar(32) NOT NULL, |
| 21:51.07 | PleegWat | `group_description` mediumtext, |
| 21:51.09 | PleegWat | `group_master` int(11) NOT NULL COMMENT 'member_id' |
| 21:51.11 | PleegWat | PRIMARY KEY (`group_id`), |
| 21:51.13 | PleegWat | UNIQUE KEY `name` (`group_name`) |
| 21:51.15 | PleegWat | ) TYPE=MyISAM; |
| 21:51.17 | PleegWat | # -------------------------------------------------------- |
| 21:51.19 | PleegWat | ### Group members |
| 21:51.21 | PleegWat | DROP TABLE IF EXISTS `renprefix_group_members`; |
| 21:51.23 | PleegWat | CREATE TABLE `renprefix_group_members` ( |
| 21:51.25 | PleegWat | `group_id` int(11) NOT NULL, |
| 21:51.27 | PleegWat | `member_id` int(11) NOT NULL, |
| 21:51.29 | PleegWat | `status` smallint(6), |
| 21:51.31 | PleegWat | PRIMARY KEY (`group_id`, `member_id`) |
| 21:51.33 | PleegWat | ) TYPE=MyISAM; |
| 21:51.35 | PleegWat | should do it right? |
| 21:52.16 | Anaxent | master = moderator , and status = type? |
| 21:52.23 | PleegWat | yeah |
| 21:52.34 | Anaxent | looks good |
| 21:52.43 | Zanix | looks ok to me |
| 21:52.58 | PleegWat | member status could be stuff like normal, pending, temporarily suspended, promoted, w/e |
| 21:53.54 | PleegWat | We could even use an enumeration for that but I don't know how php likes that |
| 21:54.07 | PleegWat | Do we need a group status field? |
| 21:54.13 | PleegWat | or type |
| 21:54.41 | Zanix | uh, I dunno |
| 21:55.16 | PleegWat | I think we probably want to be able to have open/closed/hidden groups at some point |
| 21:55.27 | Zanix | probably |
| 21:56.05 | PleegWat | adding group_type smallint(6) AFTER `group_id` |
| 22:07.28 | PleegWat | We need 'everyone' and 'admin' autogroups |
| 22:08.32 | PleegWat | Or at least admin |
| 22:09.02 | Anaxent | well id say atleast everyone as an anon group |
| 22:09.22 | Anaxent | as the admin would be more of the moderator/master i would think |
| 22:10.10 | PleegWat | Well, I need an everyone group to distinguish between not a member of any group and not logged in |
| 22:10.11 | Anaxent | then when the admin uploads for the first time make it create a guild leader group |
| 22:10.21 | Anaxent | ah |
| 22:10.30 | PleegWat | Those aren't relevant to the loginout code |
| 22:10.50 | PleegWat | Prolly admin isn't either at the end |
| 22:11.03 | PleegWat | but currently the admin is handled seperately |
| 22:11.28 | PleegWat | That's why also the admin can't own characters, and he needs a second account to own characters on., |
| 22:11.53 | PleegWat | meh, I'll just skip the admin |
| 22:12.17 | PleegWat | I can signify not logged in by unsetting the array of groups the user is a member of |
| 22:12.31 | PleegWat | So NULL means not logged in and array() means not a member of any group |
| 22:15.00 | MillerM | well im keeping forums addon authentication abstract as possible because i know you guys are working on the user groups stuff |
| 22:15.43 | MillerM | like forumUserAccess($uid,$fid,$flags){} |
| 22:16.35 | MillerM | hopefully most of the user/group stuff can be done through roster and not a 3rd party addon like ch au's addon admin addon |
| 22:16.50 | MillerM | silencer |
| 22:17.06 | PleegWat | Login will be a core module |
| 22:17.09 | PleegWat | in 1.8 that is |
| 22:17.14 | PleegWat | the new 2.0 I don't know yet |
| 22:17.36 | PleegWat | It will be possible to replace login with a modified file for auth bridging but that shouldn't matter for addon development |
| 22:18.46 | MillerM | hrmm |
| 22:19.11 | MillerM | we should keep everything the same as far as the addon api goes in 2.0 dont you think? |
| 22:19.43 | PleegWat | In a complete rewrite? |
| 22:19.48 | PleegWat | We can do our best, but... |
| 22:20.26 | Zanix | there are things id like to do for 2.0 that we cant do with 1.8 |
| 22:20.34 | Zanix | or shouldnt do because of time |
| 22:20.39 | MillerM | ahh |
| 22:21.11 | Zanix | i want to be able to have addons be able to hook into main pages |
| 22:21.28 | MillerM | yea i remember talking about that |
| 22:21.41 | Zanix | for a small example, say I wanna display the signature and avatar on the character screen |
| 22:21.45 | MillerM | so just send smarty another variable for every element right |
| 22:22.01 | MillerM | that would be easy to integrate into an addon |
| 22:22.24 | Zanix | well, smarty is just for templating |
| 22:22.47 | Zanix | we would need to build code to include the addons' hook file |
| 22:22.54 | MillerM | hmmmmm |
| 22:23.02 | MillerM | why do we need a file |
| 22:23.06 | Zanix | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:23.13 | MillerM | why cant the addon just set the variable |
| 22:23.14 | Zanix | best that way I would think |
| 22:24.24 | MillerM | template->addvariable($pre_header); template->addvariable($pre_body); template->addvariable($pre_footer); template->addvariable($pre_roster); |
| 22:24.36 | MillerM | and ditto for post |
| 22:24.59 | MillerM | maybe? |
| 22:25.25 | MillerM | well whatever way we do it it will be easy to program for |
| 22:25.53 | PleegWat | Well, I've got no idea how smarty works |
| 22:26.01 | MillerM | smarty is simple |
| 22:26.30 | MillerM | dont worry about the specifics of how smarty works just know we pump variables into it and it pushes them into a template... |
| 22:27.23 | MillerM | anyway we should keep the "making an addon" specifications as short as possible IMO |
| 22:27.40 | MillerM | any thoughts on that |
| 22:27.47 | PleegWat | They're growing quite a bit for 1.8 |
| 22:28.02 | PleegWat | Though quite some stuff that isn't relevant if you're only displaying and have text config |
| 22:28.06 | MillerM | the amount of code? |
| 22:28.24 | PleegWat | The old menu button/trigger stuff doesn't work anymore |
| 22:28.33 | MillerM | you mean the scope of roster? |
| 22:28.38 | MillerM | really? |
| 22:28.48 | PleegWat | You need to have an installer template that registers menu buttons and upload triggers |
| 22:28.56 | MillerM | ahh yea i noticed |
| 22:29.00 | MillerM | i made a forums addon |
| 22:29.07 | MillerM | been working on it for 1.8 :D |
| 22:29.13 | PleegWat | I saw |
| 22:29.23 | PleegWat | How do we want getAuthorized to work? |
| 22:29.32 | MillerM | it needs to seperate from roster core |
| 22:29.35 | MillerM | i dont know |
| 22:29.45 | MillerM | i thought you guys had that worked out |
| 22:29.52 | PleegWat | for levels, yes |
| 22:29.56 | PleegWat | Gropus work differently |
| 22:29.57 | MillerM | i can write it if you wish |
| 22:30.11 | PleegWat | what do you want to be able to pass at the same time? |
| 22:30.15 | PleegWat | One group number? Multiple? |
| 22:30.30 | MillerM | the db handles what group a user is in |
| 22:30.41 | MillerM | so its up to the addon to pull the group numbers |
| 22:30.44 | MillerM | correct? |
| 22:30.52 | PleegWat | not quite |
| 22:31.12 | PleegWat | The DB does know what groups the currently logged in user is in |
| 22:31.22 | PleegWat | The addon has a config setting with a permission string |
| 22:31.39 | PleegWat | That's most probably a list of groups (and users?) that's allowed to do taht |
| 22:31.47 | MillerM | hrmmmmmm |
| 22:31.54 | MillerM | thats not a good way to do it |
| 22:31.58 | MillerM | because |
| 22:32.46 | MillerM | dont you think there should be a central control panel to choose which groups have access to which addons? the way you just described suggests that all groupus are predefined |
| 22:33.08 | MillerM | predefi ned groups sucks |
| 22:33.27 | PleegWat | Yeah, that'd mean the permission setting is in the addon's config |
| 22:33.37 | MillerM | we can make "subgroups" for the guild rank and say "subgroup 3" is part of group X |
| 22:34.03 | MillerM | yea we dont want to do that |
| 22:34.08 | PleegWat | Not relevant. This is basically generic CMS code. |
| 22:34.12 | MillerM | is that what roster 1.8 is missing? |
| 22:34.36 | PleegWat | The addon configuration is part of the control panel (or should be) |
| 22:34.41 | PleegWat | the whole system is rather dodgy |
| 22:34.47 | MillerM | hmmmm |
| 22:35.00 | MillerM | which is why we REALLY need a specification sheet in our wiki |
| 22:35.05 | MillerM | of how things work |
| 22:35.20 | PleegWat | We could do a central permissions table, and handle permissions seperate from the rest of the roster config |
| 22:35.30 | PleegWat | Then addons could add permissions that can be set on groups |
| 22:35.57 | PleegWat | And I could pull the permissions on logon |
| 22:35.58 | Anaxent | that there sounds liuke the right path to take |
| 22:36.01 | MillerM | that makes sense |
| 22:36.08 | MillerM | yea |
| 22:36.19 | PleegWat | Then an addon would do $login->getAuthorized('permission name in text') and the login would return true or false |
| 22:36.37 | MillerM | exactly |
| 22:36.57 | MillerM | the permission name could be like a hash |
| 22:37.03 | MillerM | from a hashtable |
| 22:37.14 | Zanix | i like it when there's activiity |
| 22:37.16 | MillerM | or an associative array |
| 22:37.44 | PleegWat | Well, currently there's 3 ways to call getAuthorized: No parameter, string, or array |
| 22:38.03 | PleegWat | make that no parameter, int, or array of key=>int |
| 22:38.04 | MillerM | dont you think it should be sent a user id? |
| 22:38.30 | PleegWat | In the array case it simply checks each entry as a permissions and returns an array with the same keys |
| 22:38.45 | PleegWat | Do we need to be able to check permissions on any other than the currently logged in user? |
| 22:38.53 | MillerM | userid, accessflag where accessflag can be the hash key "permissionblahblah" |
| 22:39.33 | MillerM | yes |
| 22:39.36 | MillerM | definitly |
| 22:40.01 | PleegWat | Would have to be handled differently still. I think checking for the current user is frequent enough to prefetch it |
| 22:40.11 | MillerM | because to present a user with a list of users with access to "accessflagpermissionblah" |
| 22:40.40 | PleegWat | ah, admin functions |
| 22:40.50 | MillerM | not necessarily admin functions |
| 22:41.00 | PleegWat | anyway list of users that have 'permission' is something different again |
| 22:41.05 | MillerM | you never know when you need to fetch that kind of info |
| 22:41.06 | PleegWat | you don't do that by looping through all registered users |
| 22:41.14 | MillerM | of course |
| 22:41.22 | MillerM | that would be tons of overhead |
| 22:41.53 | MillerM | well yea i did say "list of users" lol |
| 22:42.19 | MillerM | hmmm |
| 22:42.40 | MillerM | i think i speak for all of us when i say we trust you to make the right long term decision |
| 22:42.50 | PleegWat | I hate when people say that to me |
| 22:42.59 | PleegWat | Anyway I think you're right |
| 22:43.03 | PleegWat | in part |
| 22:43.11 | PleegWat | We need a function to check if user X has permisison Y |
| 22:43.20 | PleegWat | And we need a function to check which users have permisison Y |
| 22:43.30 | PleegWat | And a function to check what permissions user X has |
| 22:43.32 | MillerM | this subject is WAAY too in depth to discuss IMO. Just leave it to someone who knows their stuff and let them build our foundation. |
| 22:43.44 | PleegWat | But those 3 all need to pull from the database. |
| 22:44.15 | MillerM | those 3 |
| 22:44.16 | MillerM | yes |
| 22:44.31 | MillerM | and 1 more |
| 22:44.34 | PleegWat | However, the function to check if the currently logged in user has permission Y is much more frequently used, should use prefetched results for speed, so should be implemented seperately from the function that checks if user X has permission Y |
| 22:44.35 | MillerM | a list of permissions |
| 22:45.14 | MillerM | ive never played with that level of optomisation |
| 22:45.23 | MillerM | i take your word for it |
| 22:45.30 | Zanix | me too |
| 22:46.05 | PleegWat | More sql queries means stuff gets slower |
| 22:46.17 | MillerM | yup |
| 22:46.17 | Anaxent | dragonfly has functions that do this I think |
| 22:46.28 | Anaxent | Zanix in the cmsinst.inc file they are in there |
| 22:46.34 | Anaxent | function in_group($id) { |
| 22:46.34 | Anaxent | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:46.34 | Anaxent | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:46.34 | Anaxent | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:46.35 | Anaxent | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:46.35 | Anaxent | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:46.37 | Anaxent | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:46.41 | Anaxent | } |
| 22:46.56 | MillerM | you outlined our authentication framework niceley pleegwat |
| 22:47.10 | MillerM | what does that return |
| 22:47.59 | MillerM | we desperatley need it, 1 thing roster has lacked in for a long time is authentication and permission management |
| 22:48.23 | MillerM | but 1.8 has authentication but not permission managmenet right? |
| 22:48.51 | PleegWat | There is at the moment simple permission management |
| 22:49.04 | PleegWat | It users user levels that are directly linked to guild rank |
| 22:49.08 | MillerM | but the pleeg master is here to fix that :D |
| 22:49.23 | *** join/#wowroster Guest (n=Guest@pool-71-125-130-173.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net) |
| 22:49.25 | PleegWat | That system isn't usable in a multiguild environment |
| 22:49.42 | MillerM | pleeg i know how that is lol guildsite uses that |
| 22:49.55 | MillerM | that old CMS i made |
| 22:50.00 | MillerM | early 06 |
| 22:50.05 | MillerM | late 05 |
| 22:50.09 | PleegWat | never looked at it TBH |
| 22:50.14 | MillerM | mm |
| 22:50.19 | Anaxent | it was nice |
| 22:50.23 | Anaxent | i liked it |
| 22:50.40 | MillerM | but its exactly as you state, its limited to a uniguild environment |
| 22:51.05 | PleegWat | But the implementation was much simpler than a full-blown group based permission system |
| 22:52.12 | PleegWat | So we need 2 additional tables, permissions (ID, name, description) and permissions-groups (permission_id, group_id) |
| 22:52.40 | PleegWat | And API additions for addon install, and a rosterCP page |
| 22:54.12 | Anaxent | not sure if this will help u out much but it is the main core file for df for functions for users/admins/groups |
| 22:54.21 | Anaxent | http://localdefence.net/cmsinit.phps |
| 22:54.28 | Anaxent | good for ideas maybe |
| 22:56.39 | Zanix | yeah, we can learn alot from a cms |
| 22:56.48 | Zanix | with this stuff already implemented |
| 22:57.24 | PleegWat | your phps colouring isn't working btw |
| 22:57.33 | Anaxent | it is a .inc file |
| 22:57.53 | Anaxent | i renamed to phps due to my .htaccess file not allowing the view of .inc |
| 22:58.24 | PleegWat | yeah, but usually apache should highlight tags in a phps file |
| 22:58.39 | Anaxent | and it dont have a closing tag for ?> php |
| 22:59.03 | PleegWat | ah, that could be it |
| 22:59.10 | Anaxent | as I believe it is all being closed somewhere else |
| 22:59.22 | PleegWat | nah, you can close every file |
| 22:59.24 | PleegWat | in roster we do |
| 22:59.45 | PleegWat | That's unless it's merged somewhere before it's parsed |
| 22:59.46 | Anaxent | cuz all files ive come accross that are in the inc format dont have the closing tag |
| 22:59.48 | PleegWat | but I doubt that |
| 22:59.59 | Anaxent | atleast with in df |
| 23:00.15 | PleegWat | It's just that omitting the end tag is allowed and prevents unwanted whitespace after the end tag |
| 23:00.25 | Zanix | yeah, you dont absolutly have to close php files with ?> |
| 23:00.30 | Zanix | ..exactly |
| 23:00.39 | Anaxent | oh ok I never knew that |
| 23:05.03 | Zanix | yeppers |
| 23:05.17 | Anaxent | do u have pastebn up somewhere |
| 23:05.21 | Zanix | yeah |
| 23:05.34 | Zanix | http://xent.homeip.net/pastebin/ |
| 23:05.48 | Zanix | i still need to set one up for wowroster.ent for all of us to use |
| 23:05.54 | Zanix | anyway, ill brb |
| 23:06.05 | Anaxent | and make it a module |
| 23:06.14 | Anaxent | http://xent.homeip.net/pastebin/index.php?show=37 |
| 23:07.00 | PleegWat | Well I'm going off to bed, it's after midnight already |
| 23:07.02 | PleegWat | night |
| 23:07.09 | Anaxent | goodnight |
| 23:07.21 | Anaxent | ill be here at work for another 3-4 hrs or so |
| 23:18.36 | Mathos | Yo Peeps |
| 23:18.45 | Anaxent | yo hows it going |
| 23:18.49 | Mathos | Good good |
| 23:18.53 | Anaxent | is it good morning to you |
| 23:18.59 | Mathos | just had a company event lol |
| 23:19.07 | Mathos | well.....0:19 :) |
| 23:19.07 | Anaxent | ah cool |
| 23:19.19 | Mathos | yeah twas fun |
| 23:19.29 | Mathos | got some cool colleages |
| 23:19.48 | Mathos | Hey Zanix |
| 23:19.57 | Anaxent | that always makes the diffrence |
| 23:19.58 | Mathos | My Beela picture aint working well lol |
| 23:20.18 | Mathos | http://elune.mysticwoods.nl/roster/av/Machinehead.png |
| 23:20.21 | Mathos | works fine |
| 23:20.23 | Mathos | though |
| 23:20.30 | Mathos | http://elune.mysticwoods.nl/roster/av/Beela.png |
| 23:20.36 | Mathos | goes weird |
| 23:22.23 | Mathos | the custom user images are exactly the same dimensions |
| 23:22.43 | Mathos | http://elune.mysticwoods.nl/roster/addons/siggen/img/members/Machinehead.png |
| 23:22.50 | Mathos | http://elune.mysticwoods.nl/roster/addons/siggen/img/members/Beela.png |
| 23:23.45 | Mathos | Funny isnt it lol |
| 23:23.54 | Anaxent | yeah that is odd |
| 23:24.00 | Anaxent | is this with 1.7.2 |
| 23:24.04 | Mathos | yes |
| 23:24.09 | Mathos | no problem at 1.7.1 |
| 23:24.38 | Mathos | let me copy MH.png to my own |
| 23:24.42 | Mathos | see if that helps |
| 23:25.27 | Mathos | weird |
| 23:25.32 | Mathos | it is not the user image |
| 23:25.38 | Mathos | http://elune.mysticwoods.nl/roster/av/Beela.png |
| 23:26.07 | Anaxent | so its not seeing nor using the demenssions wierd |
| 23:26.30 | Mathos | well, I can only see this happening with Beela |
| 23:26.34 | Mathos | all the others are fine |
| 23:28.18 | Mathos | It is not the Honor rank neither |
| 23:29.25 | Mathos | and it does it with or without the custom image lol |
| 23:30.14 | *** join/#wowroster Zeryl (i=Zeryl@75-132-127-218.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) |
| 23:30.14 | *** mode/#wowroster [+o Zeryl] by ChanServ |
| 23:30.19 | Mathos | Hey Zeryl |
| 23:30.27 | Mathos | wanna see something weird ? |
| 23:31.04 | Zeryl | sure! |
| 23:31.05 | Mathos | http://elune.mysticwoods.nl/roster/char.php?name=Bunjo&server=Azjol-Nerub |
| 23:31.06 | Zeryl | I love wierd! |
| 23:31.12 | Mathos | http://elune.mysticwoods.nl/roster/char.php?name=Beela&server=Azjol-Nerub |
| 23:31.35 | Mathos | see the differences ? |
| 23:31.42 | Zeryl | ww, wierd |
| 23:31.45 | Zeryl | the signatures, right? |
| 23:31.50 | Mathos | yup |
| 23:31.56 | Mathos | and it is only with Beela |
| 23:31.57 | Zeryl | wierd |
| 23:32.00 | Mathos | all the others are fine |
| 23:32.36 | Mathos | let me see if there is a female gnome that has a pvp rank |
| 23:33.14 | Mathos | http://elune.mysticwoods.nl/roster/char.php?name=Shiney&server=Azjol-Nerub |
| 23:33.16 | Mathos | same rank |
| 23:33.31 | Mathos | not a lock though |
| 23:33.45 | Mathos | but lock aint it neither as Bunjo is okay |
| 23:33.52 | Zeryl | that's really odd |
| 23:34.06 | Mathos | I had no issues in 1.7.1 with Beela |
| 23:34.16 | Mathos | can throw away my profile and reload it..... |
| 23:34.39 | Mathos | though rather dont... |
| 23:37.30 | Zeryl | real quick, do you know how to use () in regex? (i mean in addition to something like [a-zA-Z0-9 ]) |
| 23:38.41 | Mathos | you mean search for them ?? |
| 23:39.03 | Zeryl | ya, i'm matching a string that can be pretty anything alpha numeric and () |
| 23:39.12 | Mathos | cause in the regex they are just the string you will return |
| 23:39.18 | Mathos | ah right |
| 23:39.27 | Mathos | just match them with \( |
| 23:39.31 | Zeryl | okie |
| 23:40.00 | Zeryl | there we go :) |
| 23:40.03 | Mathos | :) |
| 23:40.24 | Mathos | so......gonna wipe Beela's profile *snifs* |
| 23:40.46 | Zeryl | :( |
| 23:46.30 | Anaxent | ooo check this out off topic |
| 23:46.30 | Zeryl | i'm building a library to access this web-based game i play |
| 23:46.31 | Anaxent | http://infragilisguild.com/index.php?name=pastebin |
| 23:46.57 | Anaxent | working on making it functional now |
| 23:46.59 | Zeryl | oh, wow, nice |
| 23:48.45 | Zanix | ah, cool |
| 23:49.44 | Zeryl | i'm getting better at this whole regex and class thing :) |
| 23:53.24 | Mathos | Hmmm |
| 23:53.35 | Zanix | mathos |
| 23:53.40 | Mathos | Hey Zanix |
| 23:53.55 | Mathos | I just destroyed Beela from the tables completely |
| 23:54.01 | Zanix | yeah, the siggen thing may be because the background is initialized as the start image |
| 23:54.16 | Mathos | But why only for Beela ? |
| 23:54.20 | Zanix | so the image size is always the size of the background :( |
| 23:54.50 | Zanix | i dunno...does she have a character specific image |
| 23:55.19 | Mathos | not anymore |
| 23:55.35 | Mathos | and I even destroyed the complete profile for beela too |
| 23:56.06 | Zanix | hmmm |
| 23:57.06 | Zanix | looks ok now |
| 23:57.07 | Anaxent | oh yeah so far so good |
| 23:57.07 | Zanix | http://elune.mysticwoods.nl/roster/addons/siggen/av.php?name=Beela&saveonly=0 |
| 23:57.12 | Anaxent | it posts and now dispalys |
| 23:57.24 | Anaxent | zanix check this out http://infragilisguild.com/index.php?name=pastebin&show=2 |
| 23:57.35 | Zanix | nice |
| 23:57.40 | Mathos | it does on yours ? |
| 23:57.50 | Mathos | cause on mine tis still as wide as ever |
| 23:57.56 | Zanix | force reload |
| 23:57.58 | Zanix | perhaps |
| 23:57.59 | Mathos | done |
| 23:58.08 | Mathos | Hmmm |
| 23:58.21 | Mathos | why does beela have Undercity.... |
| 23:58.40 | Zanix | i dunno |
| 23:59.22 | Mathos | all I got in backg dir is the default ones |
| 23:59.28 | Mathos | no special stuff at all |
| 23:59.35 | Zanix | can i get access to siggen config? |
