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03:32.01Warlayay
03:32.06Warlaeranikus down
03:50.19Zanix|wowhey warla
03:52.23Warlahi :-)
04:23.36Zanix|wowcan you see the pm?
04:41.45Zanix|wowwarla?
05:08.55Warlaya?
05:08.58Warlahavent seen PM
05:09.02Warlawhat did you write?
05:12.47Zanix|wowstuff
05:13.01Zanix|wowcan you register with the nickserv so you can get pm's?
05:13.23Zanix|wowpretty please
05:13.24Zanix|wowlol
05:13.29Zanix|wowim gonna go get food
05:13.32Zanix|wowbrb
05:14.34Warlai amregistered
05:14.37Warlaand identified
06:27.28Anaxentwhats up Warla
06:28.20Anaxentfood what are you getting to eat Zanix|wow
06:30.33Zanix|wowjack in the box
06:30.40Zanix|wowi just finished eating
06:30.58Anaxenthow was it
06:31.12AnaxentI havn't had jack in the crack for a while
06:31.23Zanix|wowit's ok
06:31.28Zanix|wowits food
06:35.00Anaxentooooo DKP Wizzard
07:20.19Anaxentso Zanix do you like my grave yard background or should i try to find something else there
07:20.24Anaxentmaybe lighter?
07:31.13Zanix|wowon your site?
07:32.31Anaxentyeah
07:38.03Zanix|wowit fitrs
07:39.01Anaxentok what about adding on to the combined addon with toggles for the more news
07:39.21Zanix|wowhow do you mean?
07:39.30AnaxentI have it kind of setup now or atleast links that dont work
07:39.42Anaxenttake a look
07:41.27Zanix|wowwhich links
07:42.38Anaxentin the center module
07:42.42Anaxentcombined
07:42.54Anaxentat the bottom are the Other News
07:43.06Anaxenttoggle content are the links
07:43.45Anaxentso basicly have the other news show and hide like the blocks do now
07:44.03Anaxentalso making that part a bit like worldofwrcraft.net news
07:53.58Anaxentwell its about time for me to hit the sack
07:56.45Zanix|wowalright, have a good night n stuff
08:16.33Anaxentah can't sleep
08:17.26Anaxenthttp://static.curse-gaming.com/flash/flvplayer.swf?file=http://www.curse-gaming.com/download/flv/ashbringer.flv
08:18.08Anaxentthat guild has such a crap website as well
08:18.18Anaxentand such a buch of great players
08:25.01Zanix|wowlol
08:25.26Zanix|wowim trying to get timbermaw rep
08:25.36Zanix|wowtaking freaking forever
08:30.55Zanix|wownice musci
08:37.59Zanixhow the crap did they do that?
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10:44.59Archarodimhi
10:46.32Archarodimcan someone give me the SVN repositary URI? I've search on the website but can' find it :'
10:52.13ArcharodimSomeone here? :band
10:56.42Zanixthere is public access to the svn
10:56.53Zanixi should have made a post about it
10:56.57Zanix:(
10:57.03Zanixits because of support issues
11:05.34Archarodimok, did you mean "there is NO public access"?
11:18.41Zanixwell, we do have a timeline, but its not working atm
11:18.57Zanixyeah, i did mean no public access, sorry
11:19.17ZanixIm playing wow so I make typos alot, lol
11:19.34PleegWathi
11:20.11PleegWatZanix it's 4:30 AM over in your timezone you should be in bed]
11:21.52Zanixnaw, i have the next 4 days off, so I have no bed time
11:22.32Zanixim about 40 minutes from 57
11:22.41PleegWatI know from experience you're unable to think straight after midnight
11:22.46Zanixstarted out at 55 when I woke up
11:22.52PleegWatThat's you specific
11:22.57Zanix:(
11:23.16Zanixyou're gonna make me cry
11:26.30Zanixso have you been keeping up with the conversation over on our dev channel?
11:26.55PleegWatI skip a lot of it
11:27.08Zanixah
11:27.21PleegWatThe DB layer stuff?
11:27.40Zanixyeah
11:27.46Zanixid like to know what you think?
11:28.05PleegWatWell, I don't have experience with it
11:28.17Zanixneither do I
11:28.55PleegWatBasically apart from some rudimentary experiments for myself and my work on Roster I don't have any php coding experience at all
11:29.05Zanixsame here
11:29.18Zanix..should we be saying this out loud?
11:29.20Zanixlol
11:29.37Zanix..erm, (laugh quitely I mean)
11:29.59Zanixanyway, most of us devs are in the same boat
11:30.59Zanixi believe so anyway
11:31.42PleegWatI'd say it's probably best to stick to the current system for the 1.x series. Start using Template/DB/etc layers for R2
11:31.56PleegWatSince a change like that means quite a major rewrite anyway
11:32.50Zanixyeah
11:33.32Zanixi really want looking forward to trying to squeeze templating into 1.x anyway
11:33.42Zanixs/want/wasn't/
11:34.25Zanixthats why I starting this discussion for R2
11:34.41PleegWatAre we talking about working on the current R2 drafts or salvage & restart on that?
11:35.13Zanixwell, it can go either way
11:35.33ZanixI think the auth system needs to be part of the core
11:35.38PleegWatyes
11:35.53Zanixand to make most of the pages that are in R2 currently into addons
11:35.55PleegWatYes, that's another bit. What is core, what belongs to modules
11:36.05Zanixgotta define that
11:36.19Zanixtemplate/db/auth
11:36.30Zanixcontrol panel
11:36.34PleegWatI think the central member administration definitely needs to be core. Same with character administration
11:36.45Zanixsame here
11:36.56Zanixlua uploading system
11:37.07PleegWatControl panel needs to be a framework part. Accept config pages from modules
11:37.23Zanixright so core, but expandable
11:37.27PleegWatyes
11:37.29Zanixsame with the lua part
11:37.36Zanixand auth, if possible
11:37.45Zanixim hoping silencer could work on that
11:38.13Zanixsince he made the auth addon for 1.6 able to use other CMS's auth systems
11:38.57PleegWatI don't want integrated support for other CMS systems. Put in the neccesary hooks to put it in, fine, but no full support
11:39.10PleegWatPossibly a replacable auth library, like how I set up the 1.8 auth
11:39.24Zanixagreed
11:39.40Zanixand if silencer makes modules for that, they can be separate downloads
11:39.48PleegWatSupport for HTTPS auth?
11:39.48Zanixor anyone else for that matter
11:39.55PleegWatNo idea how you'd set that up
11:40.01Zanixme either
11:40.19PleegWatTHe md5 system isn't really secure at all
11:40.39PleegWatIf someone hijacks your cookie and sends it with a normal request they're in without knowing the pass
11:41.07PleegWatCourse our users won't have https anyway
11:42.37PleegWatI think you'd need IP-locked sessions, and a single page on a secure link which is the only place the pass gets sent to
11:43.24PleegWatDo we want to include session support in the R2 framework?
11:43.39PleegWator leave it to modules if they want to use it
11:53.09Zanixi think we should have it
11:55.37Zanixi dont know anything about sessions though
11:55.55PleegWatWell basically it's a method to store things on server between page calls
11:56.05PleegWatLike 'Which forum posts has this user already seen'
11:56.05Zanixbut i see that every CMS uses them
11:56.17Zanixthat could be handy
11:56.38Zanixis that what you were trying to do with the upload before
11:56.42PleegWatAlso often used to stay logged in
11:56.45PleegWatyes
12:04.34Zanixsweet, 57
12:07.15PleegWat?
12:07.44Zanixlevel
12:07.49Zanixi just hit 57
12:07.55PleegWatgratz
12:08.09Zanixi hit 56 at noon today
12:08.14Zanixwell, yesterday
12:08.35Zanixlol, only took 1 year and a half
12:08.39Zanixto get here
12:09.32PleegWatheh
12:18.45Zanixyeah, this place takes most of my time
13:31.30Zanixwell, im finally going to bed now
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17:24.10*** join/#wowroster Anax (n=Anaxent@209-250-16-194.convergentaz.net)
17:24.29Anaxgood morning all
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20:06.57MathosYo
20:08.37Anaxhey Mathos
20:08.40Anaxhows it going
20:08.46MathosGood good
20:08.49MathosVery busy
20:09.01Mathosas well as work as with DKP Wizzard
20:09.28Anaxnice
20:09.36MathosINstalled Eclipse now
20:09.46Mathoswhich should make life a little bit eaasier
20:09.50Anaxyeah i have been pretty busy as well here at work cleaning up a power surge mess/nightmare
20:10.03Mathosfound quite the number of warnings inside roster :P
20:10.09Anaxi havn't used that program yet Zeryl told me too though
20:10.11Mathosouch
20:10.15Mathoshate it when that happens
20:10.40Anaxand I still dont have ssh access to our farm
20:10.49Anaxsuch a pain in the ars
20:10.52Anaxbut it happens
20:11.18Anaxso hows the DKP Wizard coming along
20:11.18Anaxgrat name by the way
20:11.19Anaxgreat*
20:13.56MathosSlow but steady
20:14.07MathosI havent had as much time avail as I intended
20:14.28Mathosand I am at a critical part (calculation) which needs to be 100% accurate
20:15.19Mathosafter that I can just finish up the missing parts easily
20:15.39Mathosbtw
20:15.48Mathosis it wizzard with one or two Z's ?
20:16.53Anaxit should be 1 z to be spelled right
20:19.22Mathosah okay
20:19.30Mathoswill change it now then lol *blushes*
20:19.41Mathoshttp://www.wowroster.net/Forums/viewtopic/p=9851.html#9851
20:19.45Mathoslike that very much!
20:23.20MathosOkay, changed!
20:23.28Mathosalso changed the sub-forum name
20:29.32PleegWathi
20:29.41Mathoshey Pleeg
20:29.44PleegWatI was already wondering if the double z was intentional
20:29.57MathosNo it wasn't *blushes more*
20:30.22PleegWatI kinda assumed it was a book reference.
20:30.27Mathoshehe
20:30.35MathosAnyway, adjusted now
20:31.18MathosI am wondering, can't we rename roster to: WoW Wizard
20:31.23Mathosor Guild Wizard
20:31.27PleegWatlet's not
20:31.30Mathoshehe
20:31.51MathosI think that Zanix is looking for a more catchy name though
20:32.35MathosWe might have a contest
20:32.36PleegWatWas discussing with zanix about features for the R2 framework this afternoon
20:32.41Mathosah
20:32.49PleegWatNah, you always get yuk names out of contests
20:33.09Mathosshouldn't we get an integrated UA solution ?
20:33.19PleegWatCould do
20:33.25Mathosmight be better
20:33.28PleegWatI'd say leave it as an addon myself
20:33.30PleegWator module
20:33.39Mathosokay
20:34.06PleegWatBasically even in 1.8 a lot of stuff could be moved to the addon framework. In R2 almost all visible pages could be from modules
20:34.26MathosWould be nice to have a fresh start
20:34.26Anaxyes
20:34.46MathosI also recommend every dev on roster to use eclipse
20:34.59Anaxwhats the link to there download
20:34.59PleegWatWhat's eclipse
20:35.05Mathosthat is an IDE
20:35.18Mathosdefault java, but PHP is easily integrated
20:35.25Mathosand it scans all files and stuff too
20:35.35PleegWatI use textpad myself
20:35.40MathosI used to
20:35.47MathosUltraedit
20:35.54Mathosbut eclipse is more intuitive
20:35.58Anaxpspad was also a good app
20:36.24Anaxi generally use dreamweaver or vi
20:36.25Mathosand it will warn you like if references are never used, or may not have been included for instance
20:36.32Anaxnice
20:36.48MathosI always use it for java
20:37.02Mathoscause it actually finishes your sentences which is really cool :)
20:37.12Mathosand it automatically puts imports in there
20:37.22Mathosnot tried includes yet with php though
20:38.06MathosSeverity and DescriptionPathResourceLocationCreation TimeId
20:38.06MathosThe local variable $create_sql may not have been initializeddkp_wizzard/addons/siggen/incfunctions.incline 6401163202221210174
20:38.33Mathosnice innit
20:40.16MathosGot about 26 warnings from default roster 1.7.1 (including some from an unfinished DKP Wizard
20:40.23PleegWatI should really get on that login rewrite for 1.8
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21:14.20MathosThink we could get MattM to setup an Item Reference DB ?
21:14.36Mathosif I would build it that is
21:15.00MathosMulti Local naturally
21:15.01PleegWatProbably
21:15.06Mathoscool stuff
21:15.12Mathosshould be quite easy
21:15.22PleegWatDon't know if we'd run out of b/w though
21:15.23Mathosdrag all the info from allakhazam
21:15.32Warlahowdy
21:15.37Mathosalthough allakhazam might not really like us for it lol
21:15.40Mathosheya Warla
21:16.19Warlaheya :-)
21:16.27Warlayesterday i got ZE PHAT LEWTZ
21:20.33Zanixhello everyone
21:20.41Mathoshey Zanix
21:21.07Mathosokay, DKP Wizard now supports both new and old format
21:21.14Mathos*woohoo's*
21:21.20Zanixshecksy
21:21.41Mathosthe output is exactly the same :)
21:21.56Zanixthen what's the difference?
21:22.03Zanixlayout of the data?
21:28.45Mathoserr....the XML is different
21:28.53Mathosbut the output of my class is the same
21:28.59Zanixoh, ok
21:29.01Mathoswether I use old or new format
21:29.02Mathos:)
21:29.06ZanixI was wondering what you ment
21:32.09Mathosstill uncertain if I should do item caching on the full item id or the just the ItemID itself
21:32.45Mathosfirst one is much easier, and provides just a bit better tooltip
21:32.57Mathosthough the second options will save database space
21:33.37Mathosand I want to make a WoWRoster Item Database
21:33.52Mathosfrom where people can get their cache filled
21:34.30Mathoswhat is the best way of filling that in all languages ?
21:34.42Mathoscapture all stuff from allakhazam ?
21:34.49Mathosor will they shoot me if I do that ?
21:41.12MathosZeryl, you got a complete item id list dont ya ?
21:44.35MathosAnax ?
21:44.39Mathosanyone ?
21:44.44MathosWarla, you got one ?
21:47.33Warla?
21:47.36Warlasec
21:47.37Warlawas afk
21:47.52Warlathe Burning crusade has changed IDs
21:48.19Warlaohh in my DB i used the IDs of the items and the language code
21:48.22Warlato get the items
21:49.23Anaxwhats up Mathos
21:50.13MathosI wanna have a complete itemid list
21:50.32Mathosotherwise allakhazam is definately gonna shoot me
21:51.17Mathosand also I need to know what various locale's there are
21:51.26MathosenUS, enGB, frFR, etc
21:51.31MathostwTW
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21:52.26Guest616Hi
21:54.52Mathosbye
21:57.05Mathosanyone knows which ones there are ?
21:57.13Mathoshttp://www.wowwiki.com/Localization
21:57.17Mathosgot that page
21:57.25Mathosbut does not tell me the prefixes
22:00.40Zanixprefixes?
22:00.45ZanixenUS, deDE, frFR
22:00.49Zanixand the such?
22:02.13Mathosyes
22:02.21Mathosbut I wanna know the unknown
22:02.27Mathoslike cnCN or something
22:02.30Mathosand twTW
22:02.37Mathosbut those dont seem to work
22:02.51Mathosso I prolly input them wrong
22:04.03Mathosprobably wont work very well anyway
22:04.24MathosesES is bad
22:04.31Mathoshttp://wow.allakhazam.com/ihtml?16947&locale=esES
22:04.44Mathoshttp://wow.allakhazam.com/ihtml?16947&locale=deDE
22:04.47Mathosgerman works
22:04.55Mathosfrench as well btw
22:16.13Mathoshttp://wow.allakhazam.com/ihtml?16948&locale=zhTW
22:16.17Mathosgot one :P
22:16.32Mathoschinese is zhCN
22:23.21ZanixenUS, enGB, frFR, deDE,
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22:34.36Zanixman, I should start coding crap
22:34.38Anaxnah start coding sdomething good man
22:34.38ESDoes anyone know of a way to extract the data in the SQL proffesions table (of WOWRoster) to create and compare item sets?
22:34.38Anaxwell all really dont like crap
22:34.39Warlaheya zanix
22:34.39ESAny thoughts?
22:34.40MathosES what do you want to achieve exactly ?
22:34.40ESIm trying to make a script or something that wil compare items
22:34.40Mathosand Zeryl, do you have that ItemID list ?
22:34.41Mathoscompare items.....as in craftable's ?
22:34.41ESyes
22:34.41Mathoshow would you select them ?
22:34.41ESlike making a set by using pieces for each slot and comparing teh bonuses
22:34.42Mathosah
22:34.42ESsuch as Heavy Mithril vs Ornate Mithril
22:34.42Mathoswell, you can always filter I guess, still I do not see an emmediate use for that kind of info
22:34.46Mathosthere is an addon that shows what kind of stuff people can make that is better than what your character had
22:35.23ESsuppose you want to build an item set and see their characteristics
22:35.46Mathoshttp://www.wowroster.net/Downloads/details/id=58.html
22:35.59ESby item set i mean Head,Neck,....,Ranged
22:36.00Mathosmaybe that will give you a headstart
22:36.08ESok, thanks, let me check it out
22:36.21Anaxnah Mathos i do not have a full itemdb
22:36.30Mathosshame Anax
22:36.32Anaxi know Zeryl was compiling one while back
22:36.34Anaxlol
22:36.41Mathosya, I know
22:36.47Mathosbut he aint responding :(
22:37.02Anaxhttp://localdefence.net/index.php?name=item_stats&file=view_cache
22:37.08Anaxthat is the best i have right now
22:37.09Warlalua 5.1 is nasty
22:37.11Anaxvery slim
22:37.16Warlaneeds a lot change to Mods....
22:37.20Warlalots addons wont work
22:37.23Warlalots as in 99% ^^
22:37.26Anax.....sigh
22:37.46Anaxwell its a good thing you are playing beta to find these things out for us
22:37.51Warlaheh ya
22:37.54Warlai was lucky to get beta ke
22:37.56Warlakey
22:37.59Anaxlol you planning on fixing our addosn
22:38.07Warlawhich ones?
22:38.24Anaxcp, gp, pvplog
22:38.33Anaxmake a nice grafic interface as well
22:38.41Warlaheh didnt you see my mod?
22:38.42Anaxhaha in my dreams
22:38.43Warlaits like cp
22:38.50Warlabut with interface ;-)
22:38.54MathosWuha....I am gonna take down my live roster for at least 2 weeks after burning crusade lol
22:38.57Warlagathers more info too
22:39.10Anaxyes i have seen it but have not used it yet
22:39.15Anaxman i really should though
22:39.17Warlahttp://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-5336-1-wowprofiles.html
22:39.20Warlatry it out
22:39.30Warlaalso the output is VERY similar to what CP extracts
22:39.37Warlai tried to make it pretty compatible
22:40.21Warlait even comes with a noob proofed readme
22:40.27Warlaand ingame you cannt do anything wrong :-)
22:40.29Anaxwoah what is that
22:40.31Anaxhaha
22:40.38Anaxthats kick ars
22:40.45Warlaso the lame excuse of "CP didnt work" i heard from 90% of my guildies
22:40.50Warlawont fit anymore
22:40.52Warlathey have NO EXCUSE
22:40.57Anaxlol
22:41.21Anaxare you running roster now or just your profiler
22:41.38Warlaat the moment its still beta... the Mod is not beta anymore
22:41.40Warlaits working
22:41.55Warlathe website is beta but like sooo close to be done (and also ready for BC)
22:41.55Mathosuntill they release BC lol
22:42.11Warlaso once BC releases i can pass you the profiler scripts and the MOD
22:42.17Warlaso you see how database is setup
22:42.22Mathoswill prolly screw half a dozen functions again
22:42.30MathosSo
22:42.40Mathosis WoWProfiler usable for roster yet btw ?
22:43.22Warlathe database is very similar
22:43.36Warlabut it'll need some adjustments to make it work
22:44.10Warlai could tell anaxent to pass someone from the R2 team the FTP and SQLAdmin pass&User
22:44.14Warlaso you can check them out
22:44.22Warlaand see how its buit up so far
22:45.00Zanixwell, there is no separate R2 team yet
22:45.29Warlasince the Burning Crusade version is slightly different from regular version.. my BC version is at:
22:45.31MathosFor now I aint gonna be part of it, as I am too busy with DKP Wizard
22:45.40Warlahttp://darky28.dyndns.org/chris/wowprofiles/?id=1
22:45.45Warlaall IDs changed b.t.w
22:45.53WarlaBC uses new ids...
22:45.58Mathospffff
22:46.04Mathossometimes I hate blizzard
22:46.14Warlax:x:x:x is changed to x:x:x:x:x:x:x:x
22:46.18MathosMy god
22:46.22Warlaya :-)
22:46.27WarlaHUGE id numbers now
22:46.29Mathosmake it even bloody harder for us to make nice web stuff
22:46.35Warlai had stuff like
22:46.43Zanixwow, thats huge
22:46.47Warla12343:0:12:8932946:0:0:4:7
22:46.56Mathosah just for gems
22:46.57Warlafirst 4 are like in regular wow
22:47.04Mathosor something
22:47.05Zanixmaybe the last are for sockets
22:47.06Warlathe next 4 store additional info
22:47.09Warlaya
22:47.14Warlapropably sockets and stuff
22:47.18Mathosoki cool
22:47.24Mathosscared the heck out of me there
22:47.28Warlaheh
22:47.36Mathosstill loads of addons gonna hate changes like that lol
22:47.40Warlaso first number = item id
22:47.44Warlasecond = enchant
22:47.48Warla3rd = cannt remember
22:47.52Mathossuffix
22:47.54Warla4th = internal ID
22:47.59Mathoslike:   Staff of the ......
22:48.06Warla5th - 8th = no clue yet but must be sickets for sure
22:48.07MathosWhale
22:48.11Warlaahh yea
22:48.27Mathosinternal ID is a server random code for that item's uniqueness
22:48.45Mathoswhich is actually refrenced as UniqueID
22:49.01Mathosso your client knows it can not have such an item anymore
22:49.07Warlaheh ya they store stuff like <made by warla>
22:49.14Mathosand that too ya
22:49.17Warlaso they can reference it
22:49.23Warlaalso for example
22:49.27Warlaif i cook a stack food
22:49.32Warlaand you cook the same stack food
22:49.37Warlaits also different ID
22:49.39Mathosit says: Dont eat me?
22:49.43Warlaeven if the food looks identical
22:49.45Mathos:P
22:49.56Warlalike Nightfin soup
22:50.11Warlanightfin soup is always nightfin soup but gets an internal reference code
22:50.12MathosI will not use that at all in caching
22:50.15Warlaso they can track who did it
22:50.31Mathosso if it's poisoned, you will know :P
22:50.44Mathosanyway
22:50.53Mathoscaching is gonna be hot
22:51.05Mathosespecially with the new socketed stuff in BC
22:51.18MathosDB's will grow massive if we dont start using that Zanix
22:51.25Zanixyeah they will
22:51.43MathosI will put quite some effort in making the framework BC ready
22:51.46WarlaAnaxent can you pass Zanix the FTP + SQL pass&users so he can browse the profiler stuff and check how hard it would be to implement stuff
22:52.03Warlaif you need help porting your addon to BC i have some experience now
22:52.19MathosI havent got any wow AddOns created (yet)
22:52.23Zanixwell, we dont make it
22:52.37MathosRPGO
22:52.40Zanixcalvin over at rpgoutfitter.com does
22:52.53Mathoswe might think about it again though
22:52.59Mathosat least I am
22:53.12Mathosmaybe we can adopt your profiler Warla
22:53.16Mathos:P
22:53.33Warlait has certain benefits ;-)
22:53.41Warlai'm also looking into porting it to Ajax
22:53.46Mathoswhaz that ?
22:53.50Warlawould make the whole profile MUCH more fluent
22:54.03Warlaso it loads the stuff when needed
22:54.06Warlainstead all at once
22:54.08MathosAjax is a football team here in NL
22:54.08Warlafor example
22:54.17Warlafirefox loads only whats seen
22:54.25Warlawhen i flip stuff or show hidden
22:54.28Warlait loads them
22:54.36Warlaintercrapplorer loads everything
22:54.41Warlaeven the hidden stuff
22:54.49Warla= longer loading time
22:55.06Mathoswell, from what I have seen on your web-side of things, it loads many small things.
22:55.15MathosMaybe it should be more batch-like
22:55.32Mathoscause download speed aint the real problem I think
22:55.53Zanixfor the profiler stuff, I wanted to be able to separate that out fo the upload process
22:56.01Zanixto be able to use different profiler addons
22:56.17Zanixso one user could use CP, or warla's profiler addon
22:56.25Mathosyeah could be cool
22:56.29Zanixand Roster could read and parse both
22:56.40Mathosthough GP data is not something that Warla's does
22:56.43Mathosis it ?
22:57.16Mathosbut that is quite the easy one I think anyway
22:57.49Anaxsure Warla ill pass the usr/pw to Zanix i just need to look it up
22:57.57MathosOkay peeps
22:58.01Mathosgonna rest know
22:58.03Mathosnow
22:58.05Zanixnight
22:58.08MathosNN guys
22:58.16Mathosand I will get on the Item Cache thing soonish
22:58.23Zanixcool stuff
22:58.30Mathoscause I really wanna get rid of Allakhazam
22:58.41Zanixhave you read anything from pleeg about that?
22:58.49Mathoswell, havent read much
22:58.52Mathostbh
22:58.52Zanixmaking a ranking system on uploads
22:58.57Mathosah right that part
22:59.01Mathosyeah looks cool
22:59.21Zanixit would help, especially when tooltips cahnge
22:59.21Mathosbut that has nothing to do with itemcache
22:59.26Mathosoh right
22:59.27Mathoswell
22:59.41Zanixit kinda does
22:59.42Mathositemcache for roster will not have a tooltip
22:59.43Zanix:p
23:00.02Mathosonly the one that is downloaded based on roster_lang
23:00.04Zanixwhat will it have then?
23:00.50MathosItems are referenced only by full itemid (+ enchants and suffix)
23:01.02Mathosthe item tooltip isstored and reference by the first itemid
23:01.28Mathosthen enchants and suffixes are quite well known in advance, so there is one table that holds those
23:01.40Zanixahhh, good stuff
23:01.56MathosWhich is not 100% the way I have set it up now
23:02.02Mathosbut should not be that hard to change it
23:02.38MathosAll we gotto do is localization for stuff like: Stamina, Critical Hit chance (etc etc)
23:03.04Mathosthe suffix DB I got is a big matrix
23:03.34Mathoshttp://www.wowwiki.com/SuffixId
23:03.40Mathosthat is what I got in a DB atm
23:03.45Mathoswithout the words
23:04.30Zanixwow
23:04.45Mathosstill gotto do enchants
23:04.59Mathosen later after BC I gotto do 4 more lol
23:05.05Mathosbloody sockets
23:05.47Mathosanyway, all you have to do in roster is: getitemcache(<itemidfull>) and it returns the item in an array
23:05.57Zanixthats a good idea
23:06.15Mathosif it is not cached, it will cache it
23:06.26Mathosit will re-cache every item every 2 weeks
23:06.31Mathosnot every item
23:06.35Mathosjust referenced items
23:07.16Mathosthat is why I want a big reference table at wowroster.com to get us XML output localized so we can ease the functions big time
23:07.43Mathosanyway, that will be my stuff towards R2 :)
23:07.50Mathosgonna have to refine it bigtime
23:07.55MathosCya all tomorrow!

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