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| 00:01.16 | Guest579 | Anaxent? |
| 00:01.25 | Anaxent | hey whats up |
| 00:01.36 | Guest579 | you sent me a PM about UI Central |
| 00:01.51 | Anaxent | ah right |
| 00:02.06 | Anaxent | well the guys i wanted to include in this conversation are not logged in |
| 00:02.20 | Anaxent | are you the dev of ui cantral |
| 00:02.24 | Guest579 | give me an idea of your intentions |
| 00:02.26 | Guest579 | yeah |
| 00:02.48 | Anaxent | we use an app called UniUploader that populates our rosters with toon data |
| 00:03.11 | Anaxent | this app also has the ability to download and install addons that we upload to an app called UniAdmin |
| 00:03.28 | Guest579 | yeah |
| 00:03.31 | Anaxent | but with that in mind we as the site admins have to add the required addons to the UniAdmin |
| 00:03.47 | Anaxent | I was thinking after seeing your app of a central repository |
| 00:03.47 | Guest579 | Right |
| 00:04.10 | Guest579 | well I don't know if you know but I'm working on UIC's third overhaul |
| 00:04.14 | Anaxent | where the user using UniUpload will be able to see all addons the addon devs upload like you have in ui central |
| 00:04.46 | Anaxent | and we as addins will be able to say this addon and this addon are required then the end user has the options to download and update all other addons that are avaliable |
| 00:05.17 | Anaxent | I really dont know what your working on as I first saw your app at a buddy of mines house |
| 00:05.25 | Guest579 | Why can't you |
| 00:05.26 | Anaxent | and then the wheels in my head just started turning |
| 00:05.45 | Guest579 | why am I involved, |
| 00:05.57 | Guest579 | just code something like you describe |
| 00:06.19 | Anaxent | yeah I know that we could do that and im talking to the UU dev about it now |
| 00:06.25 | Anaxent | but why reinvent the wheel |
| 00:06.39 | Anaxent | after I saw what you had I though why not just ask about it |
| 00:06.41 | Anaxent | http://localdefence.net/UA/ |
| 00:06.50 | Anaxent | is a version of UnAdmin |
| 00:06.53 | Guest579 | UIC is a .NET application |
| 00:07.03 | Anaxent | and UniUploader is also a .net app |
| 00:07.21 | Guest579 | I'm not allowed to give the code out because it's semi-contracted |
| 00:07.59 | Anaxent | im aware of that |
| 00:08.26 | Anaxent | and im not the main decission maker here but thought a partnership could be invloved |
| 00:08.36 | Anaxent | or atleast passing the idea around |
| 00:08.51 | Guest579 | Well you're welcome to try and copy what UIC does |
| 00:08.54 | Anaxent | as we have many users using roster now and many of them also using UU |
| 00:09.28 | Guest579 | the only reason UIC works so well |
| 00:09.36 | Anaxent | having some sort i\of intergration would be awsome for an all in one solution |
| 00:09.41 | Guest579 | is because I'm already in partnership with ui.wouldofwar.net |
| 00:09.48 | Guest579 | UIC uses their database |
| 00:09.53 | Guest579 | exclusively |
| 00:10.11 | Anaxent | and thats what I figured |
| 00:10.55 | Anaxent | i feel our community will grow alot more in the near future and many guilds will be using the app that also use ui.worldofwar.net for there addons |
| 00:11.11 | Anaxent | and as you and i both know many users that play this game are also a bit lazy |
| 00:11.14 | Guest579 | The only thing I could actually do is create an exposed library |
| 00:11.22 | Guest579 | that comes with UIC |
| 00:11.27 | Guest579 | you'd have to do the rest |
| 00:12.06 | Guest579 | for example give functions whereby you supply the ID of the mod on ui.worldofwar.net and the library will download that mod |
| 00:12.24 | Anaxent | that makes sence |
| 00:12.54 | Guest579 | anyhow I'll get back to you later in development |
| 00:12.58 | Anaxent | and who would i need to ask/talk to to take a bigger step and maybe making UI central and UU one program |
| 00:13.01 | Anaxent | thx |
| 00:13.34 | Guest579 | making them one program? I don't think that could happen |
| 00:13.49 | Guest579 | but I'll get back here once I've had a think |
| 00:13.58 | Guest579 | thanks for your time ;) |
| 00:14.01 | Anaxent | ok thank you very much for stopping in |
| 00:14.19 | Anaxent | http://www.wowroster.net/wiki/index.php/UniUploader:BasicSetup |
| 00:14.24 | Anaxent | our wiki on UU |
| 00:14.24 | Guest579 | you can find me on irc.loadedinc.com |
| 00:14.37 | Guest579 | our WoW channel has 1500 users currently |
| 00:14.42 | Anaxent | ok what channel |
| 00:14.48 | Guest579 | because we're giving away BC keys :p |
| 00:14.51 | Anaxent | cool |
| 00:14.54 | Anaxent | lol nice |
| 00:15.01 | Guest579 | I use the name Flukes |
| 00:15.12 | Guest579 | I'd recommend you move #wowroster there anyways ;-) |
| 00:15.13 | Anaxent | we are looking for peeps that have bc keys so we can test roster before it releases |
| 00:15.39 | Anaxent | ill keep that in\ miond as well as let the other devs know |
| 00:15.45 | Guest579 | ok |
| 00:15.49 | Guest579 | Speak to ya later |
| 00:16.01 | Guest579 | stop by in #wow and say hello! |
| 00:22.06 | Anaxent | http://digg.com/gaming_news/WoW_Burning_Crusade_beta_key_competition |
| 00:28.15 | Anaxent | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=77097857&sid=1 |
| 02:30.58 | Anaxent | well guys time to head home |
| 02:31.04 | Zeryl_ | cya :) |
| 02:31.24 | *** mode/#wowroster [+o Zeryl] by ChanServ |
| 02:33.11 | Anaxent | so i had a chat today with Ui central dev |
| 02:33.23 | Zeryl | ya? |
| 02:33.46 | Anaxent | if you can read any of the chat here from guest579 |
| 02:34.12 | Anaxent | <Anaxent> hey whats up |
| 02:34.12 | Anaxent | <Guest579> you sent me a PM about UI Central |
| 02:34.12 | Anaxent | <Anaxent> ah right |
| 02:34.12 | Anaxent | <Anaxent> well the guys i wanted to include in this conversation are not logged in |
| 02:34.12 | Anaxent | <Anaxent> are you the dev of ui cantral |
| 02:34.13 | Zeryl | ahhh, cool |
| 02:34.14 | Anaxent | <Guest579> give me an idea of your intentions |
| 02:34.16 | Anaxent | <Guest579> yeah |
| 02:34.18 | Anaxent | <Anaxent> we use an app called UniUploader that populates our rosters with toon data |
| 02:34.20 | Anaxent | <Anaxent> this app also has the ability to download and install addons that we upload to an app called UniAdmin |
| 02:34.23 | Anaxent | <Guest579> yeah |
| 02:34.25 | Anaxent | <Anaxent> but with that in mind we as the site admins have to add the required addons to the UniAdmin |
| 02:34.27 | Anaxent | <Anaxent> I was thinking after seeing your app of a central repository |
| 02:34.29 | Anaxent | <Guest579> Right |
| 02:34.31 | Anaxent | <Guest579> well I don't know if you know but I'm working on UIC's third overhaul |
| 02:34.33 | Anaxent | <Anaxent> where the user using UniUpload will be able to see all addons the addon devs upload like you have in ui central |
| 02:34.36 | Anaxent | <Anaxent> and we as addins will be able to say this addon and this addon are required then the end user has the options to download and update all other addons that are avaliable |
| 02:34.39 | Anaxent | <Anaxent> I really dont know what your working on as I first saw your app at a buddy of mines house |
| 02:34.41 | Anaxent | <Guest579> Why can't you |
| 02:34.45 | Anaxent | <Anaxent> and then the wheels in my head just started turning |
| 02:34.47 | Anaxent | <Guest579> why am I involved, |
| 02:34.49 | Anaxent | <Guest579> just code something like you describe |
| 02:34.51 | Anaxent | <Anaxent> yeah I know that we could do that and im talking to the UU dev about it now |
| 02:34.53 | Anaxent | <Anaxent> but why reinvent the wheel |
| 02:34.55 | Anaxent | <Anaxent> after I saw what you had I though why not just ask about it |
| 02:34.57 | Anaxent | <Anaxent> http://localdefence.net/UA/ |
| 02:34.59 | Anaxent | <Anaxent> is a version of UnAdmin |
| 02:35.01 | Anaxent | <Guest579> UIC is a .NET application |
| 02:35.03 | Anaxent | <Anaxent> and UniUploader is also a .net app |
| 02:35.05 | Anaxent | <Guest579> I'm not allowed to give the code out because it's semi-contracted |
| 02:35.07 | Anaxent | <Anaxent> im aware of that |
| 02:35.09 | Anaxent | <Anaxent> and im not the main decission maker here but thought a partnership could be invloved |
| 02:35.11 | Anaxent | <Anaxent> or atleast passing the idea around |
| 02:35.15 | Anaxent | <Guest579> Well you're welcome to try and copy what UIC does |
| 02:35.17 | Anaxent | <Anaxent> as we have many users using roster now and many of them also |
| 02:35.19 | Anaxent | lol ok so u can |
| 02:35.21 | Anaxent | dont look very promising |
| 02:35.23 | Anaxent | but he is thinking it over |
| 02:35.25 | Anaxent | but on the up side |
| 02:35.27 | Anaxent | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:35.37 | Anaxent | I just pm matt on this |
| 02:35.52 | Zeryl | hrmmm |
| 02:35.54 | Anaxent | as he has thought about having a central repository |
| 02:36.19 | Anaxent | this would just be easier if it could be combined into one program or something of that nature |
| 02:36.23 | Zeryl | and ya, i saw those links |
| 02:36.29 | Zeryl | and if he's contracted, they won't merge |
| 02:36.48 | Anaxent | right and thats what it was sounding like |
| 02:36.58 | Anaxent | he is not the decission maker |
| 02:37.06 | Anaxent | in this matter |
| 02:37.56 | Anaxent | [No colours, bold, "kek", abuse, asking for keys, spam, stupidity, excessive caps, warez. English only.] Key winners will be picked at random times within the week. (Type !faq for common questions and answers.) [26 keys remaining.] |
| 02:38.11 | Zeryl | ya |
| 02:38.24 | Zeryl | i'm on their addon list, so i got another avenue for it :) |
| 02:38.32 | Anaxent | nice |
| 02:38.44 | Anaxent | hope for the best |
| 02:38.49 | Zeryl | ya |
| 02:39.56 | Anaxent | well take it easy im out of here |
| 02:40.03 | Zeryl | cya later :) |
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| 03:02.14 | Anaxent | fibally home... feels so good |
| 03:02.16 | Zeryl | wb |
| 03:02.22 | Zeryl | 22 minutes |
| 03:02.42 | Anaxent | 10 of which was talking to my gf |
| 03:02.47 | Zeryl | haha |
| 03:02.51 | Zeryl | don't need to do that! |
| 03:02.53 | Anaxent | i live pretty close t work |
| 03:02.54 | Zeryl | lol |
| 03:02.56 | Zeryl | ahhh, ok :) |
| 03:02.56 | Anaxent | lol |
| 03:03.27 | Zeryl | i try to avoid talking to my wife :P |
| 03:03.32 | Zeryl | lol, if she read that, she'd slap me :P |
| 03:03.33 | Anaxent | id hate to live in such a big city if i really had to drive and deal with the traffic |
| 03:03.42 | Zeryl | st louis sucks for traffic |
| 03:03.50 | Anaxent | hell if mine read that mine would slap me |
| 03:04.13 | Anaxent | and then say i dont want you to talk to him anymore such a bad influance |
| 03:04.19 | Anaxent | wait that sounds like my mother |
| 03:04.21 | Anaxent | lol |
| 03:05.14 | Anaxent | http://localdefence.net/index.php?name=wowrosterdf&file=addon&roster_addon_name=SpellBooks&classfilter |
| 03:05.19 | Anaxent | i got it to work |
| 03:05.29 | Anaxent | so most of all the addons have been converted |
| 03:05.39 | Zeryl | cool |
| 03:05.50 | Anaxent | granted i still have to go and recheck the links to use the leo linlk way of writting them |
| 03:07.00 | Anaxent | id really like to get treasury functional |
| 03:07.19 | Anaxent | for both roster and rosterdf |
| 03:09.00 | Anaxent | granted it will be much easier in 1.8 i bet |
| 03:09.34 | Zeryl | cool |
| 03:11.00 | Anaxent | http://www.ironcladgathering.com/roster/addon.php?roster_addon_name=guildbank |
| 03:11.04 | Anaxent | check his bank out |
| 03:11.08 | Anaxent | and click an item |
| 03:11.30 | Anaxent | i think it makes a post to the fiorums though but the idea is there |
| 03:11.49 | Zeryl | nice |
| 03:18.23 | Anaxent | he also modded ur recipe addon to pull from the bank |
| 03:18.31 | Anaxent | looks good too |
| 03:18.33 | Zeryl | ya, they asked me to do that |
| 03:29.13 | Zeryl | i haven't worked on that addon in months :( |
| 03:29.19 | Zeryl | i need to either do it, or let someone else take it |
| 03:32.16 | Anaxent | right |
| 03:32.32 | Anaxent | so what are you currently working on |
| 03:32.38 | Anaxent | 1.8? |
| 03:32.59 | Zeryl | umm, i've got fixing the keys page as my next project |
| 03:33.07 | Anaxent | nice idea |
| 03:33.08 | Zeryl | it uses like 8 queries per char |
| 03:33.16 | Zeryl | i'm gonna make it like 8 queries total |
| 03:33.25 | Anaxent | sweet |
| 03:35.23 | Zeryl | and then after that, i guess i'll start working on bug reports, and features for 1.8 |
| 03:35.30 | Zeryl | or whatever else zanix wants me to do |
| 04:28.59 | Anaxent | i think im going to start building a block for the event calendar |
| 04:29.29 | Zeryl | *snore* |
| 04:29.35 | Zeryl | i'm falling asleep in MC :( |
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| 07:10.13 | Zanix|away | hello? |
| 07:10.24 | Anaxent|Sleep | hello |
| 07:10.29 | Zanix | hi |
| 07:10.35 | Zanix | whew, long day |
| 07:10.42 | Anaxent|Sleep | i was just about to head to bed |
| 07:10.54 | Zanix | lol |
| 07:10.54 | Anaxent|Sleep | thats always bad |
| 07:10.58 | Zanix | dont let me keep ya |
| 07:11.02 | Anaxent|Sleep | i had a long day yesterday |
| 07:11.08 | Zanix | same here |
| 07:11.16 | Zanix | worked almost all day friday |
| 07:11.26 | Zanix | then went to a funeral today |
| 07:11.32 | Anaxent|Sleep | ah.... |
| 07:11.37 | Anaxent|Sleep | thats never good |
| 07:11.51 | Zanix | i read the UI central thing above |
| 07:12.34 | Anaxent|Sleep | yeah not too sure what will come out of it |
| 07:12.46 | Zanix | sounds like a good idea |
| 07:12.48 | Anaxent|Sleep | if anything at all |
| 07:13.02 | Anaxent|Sleep | but the idea behind it makes sence and would be nice |
| 07:13.09 | Anaxent|Sleep | http://localdefence.net/index.php?name=wowrosterdf&file=addon&roster_addon_name=SpellBooks&classfilter |
| 07:13.17 | Anaxent|Sleep | got the speelbook addon working |
| 07:13.32 | Zanix | nice |
| 07:14.00 | Zanix | yeah, it seems like a nice tool |
| 07:14.35 | Zanix | im sure if the libaray/database access was "released" somehow, integrating it into UniUploader shouldn't be too hard |
| 07:14.55 | Anaxent|Sleep | and i love what this guy has going on in his bank |
| 07:14.56 | Anaxent|Sleep | http://www.ironcladgathering.com/roster/addon.php?roster_addon_name=guildbank |
| 07:14.59 | Zanix | id bet worldofwar.net would cahnge it somehow though |
| 07:15.10 | Anaxent|Sleep | im sure they would as well |
| 07:15.13 | Zanix | merging of guildbank and shopping? |
| 07:15.20 | Anaxent|Sleep | but if we can get in like they have.... |
| 07:15.32 | Anaxent|Sleep | like treasury |
| 07:15.41 | Zanix | nice... |
| 07:15.47 | Anaxent|Sleep | when it was able to be used in roster |
| 07:16.22 | Anaxent|Sleep | but i think from loking at what he did it is posting to the forums rather then to a .lua |
| 07:16.52 | Zanix | make it easier |
| 07:16.57 | Zanix | *makes |
| 07:17.40 | Anaxent|Sleep | but what made treasury so nice is we were able to define a price even in dkp |
| 07:18.09 | Anaxent|Sleep | but im sure silancer will get it back upo and running in 1.8+ |
| 07:19.26 | Zanix | hopefully |
| 07:19.35 | Anaxent|Sleep | lol yeah really |
| 07:19.45 | Zanix | we running on minimal dev power as of right now |
| 07:20.06 | Anaxent|Sleep | thats what it seems |
| 07:20.08 | Zanix | sheilds down, and weapons on full.... |
| 07:20.11 | Zanix | lol |
| 07:20.14 | Anaxent|Sleep | lol |
| 07:20.23 | Anaxent|Sleep | aint that the truth |
| 07:20.28 | Zanix | yeah |
| 07:20.43 | Zanix | time to check 2 day old forums, lol |
| 07:20.48 | Anaxent|Sleep | peeps dont even know we are running a lite dev crew |
| 07:20.59 | Anaxent|Sleep | have fun im heading to bed |
| 07:21.00 | Zanix | i hope not |
| 07:21.06 | Anaxent|Sleep | im finally getting tired |
| 07:21.09 | Zanix | alright, get some rest |
| 07:21.21 | Zanix | im almost done with the itemstats module for DF |
| 07:21.32 | Zanix | the db layer in it is giving me trouble |
| 07:22.12 | Anaxent|Sleep | my new position at work is stressfull but not as bad as working with p2's |
| 07:22.27 | Anaxent|Sleep | nice work Zanix cant wait to see it |
| 07:23.00 | Zanix | 1) I bet 2) neither can I |
| 07:23.10 | Anaxent|Sleep | and i think from it i can add an if module is actived use itemstats |
| 07:23.29 | Zanix | definatly |
| 07:23.50 | Zanix | im also still trying to figure out how to make it work with minimal file editing |
| 07:24.06 | Zanix | i may be able to get away with only editing nbbcode.php |
| 07:24.08 | Anaxent|Sleep | and i want to make a block that shows the upcoming raid events |
| 07:24.22 | Anaxent|Sleep | really that would be cool |
| 07:24.42 | Anaxent|Sleep | I know we can add extra bbcode.inc files i think to the themes dir |
| 07:24.49 | Zanix | can you? |
| 07:24.55 | Zanix | seriously? |
| 07:25.21 | Anaxent|Sleep | yeah i think the default them even uses it |
| 07:25.44 | Zanix | hmmm, im gonna have to look at that |
| 07:26.31 | Zanix | anyway, go to sleep |
| 07:27.05 | Anaxent|Sleep | in the dragonfly theme |
| 07:27.12 | Anaxent|Sleep | it is nbbcode.inc |
| 07:27.55 | Anaxent|Sleep | $bb_codes['quote'] = '<div class="bbquote"> |
| 07:27.55 | Anaxent|Sleep | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:27.55 | Anaxent|Sleep | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:28.09 | Anaxent|Sleep | stuff like that |
| 07:28.13 | Anaxent|Sleep | anyways gn |
| 07:28.30 | Zanix | night |
| 08:39.35 | PleegWat | hi |
| 08:40.43 | Zanix | hi |
| 08:40.49 | Zanix | what's up? |
| 08:40.54 | PleegWat | nothing much |
| 08:41.24 | PleegWat | The guy in updating who had the 'failed at line 28' error, that's probably indeed an altmonitor bug |
| 08:41.46 | PleegWat | Should say 'Altmonitor Error: ' in front though, so might be something else |
| 08:43.16 | Zanix | hmmm |
| 08:43.25 | Zanix | that all i could thok of |
| 08:43.31 | Zanix | memberlog is slmost solely contained within wowdb |
| 08:44.04 | Zanix | so i thought, what else could this be...altmonitor perhaps? |
| 08:44.04 | PleegWat | I use this construct when I run into a database problem during an update: |
| 08:44.05 | PleegWat | if ( !$result ) { return("$member_name not updated, failed at line ".__LINE__); } |
| 08:44.09 | Zanix | max resist might as well |
| 08:44.19 | PleegWat | And I do have one at line 28 |
| 08:45.22 | PleegWat | The return goes back to trigger.php, which catches it and writes it with 'AltMonitor Error: ' in front to $messages |
| 08:45.31 | PleegWat | then it echoes $messages into the output buffer |
| 08:47.08 | PleegWat | But it's also weird that it doesn't expand $member_name |
| 08:50.28 | Zanix | very odd |
| 08:51.57 | PleegWat | Anyway that's the first DB query altmonitor does so it's likely to be caused by AM's DB not being installed |
| 08:52.40 | Zanix | im glad 1.8 wont run an addons' trigger if they havent been installed yet |
| 08:53.36 | PleegWat | I think before 1.1 AM died on a DB error in trigger |
| 08:57.05 | PleegWat | hm, didn't make an update note on that change |
| 08:57.47 | PleegWat | Anyway the system AM uses now where it returns to the main updater on an error is nicer than dying |
| 08:58.49 | Zanix | definatly |
| 08:59.06 | Zanix | since dying would break the update process |
| 08:59.18 | PleegWat | Yeah |
| 08:59.21 | Zanix | im merging the cahnges i made for trunk into 1.8 right now |
| 08:59.22 | PleegWat | That's why I chenged it |
| 08:59.28 | PleegWat | k good |
| 09:01.16 | Zanix | and i think i got them all |
| 09:02.52 | Zanix | that register globals destroyer I found... shoudlI add that to roster? |
| 09:03.02 | PleegWat | You could |
| 09:03.15 | PleegWat | For the installer bug just unsetting $version at the start should work |
| 09:03.42 | Zanix | true, but also this would make roster jsut slightly more secure |
| 09:03.54 | PleegWat | yeah |
| 09:03.57 | PleegWat | do it |
| 09:04.07 | Zanix | but i dunno what it would do if it were to be installed as a module |
| 09:04.18 | PleegWat | Is that our problem? |
| 09:04.22 | PleegWat | Anax is asleep |
| 09:04.25 | Zanix | suppose not |
| 09:04.27 | Zanix | hehe |
| 09:04.35 | Zanix | yeah, he is |
| 09:04.56 | PleegWat | I know SMF does $GET=$POST=$COOKIE=$REQUEST=array(); |
| 09:05.10 | PleegWat | then reparses the query string |
| 09:05.59 | PleegWat | That's in addition to destroying the registerglobals |
| 09:06.01 | PleegWat | I think |
| 09:06.01 | Zanix | did you see the code I posted? |
| 09:06.05 | PleegWat | Yeah |
| 09:06.06 | PleegWat | It's nice |
| 09:06.10 | Zanix | yeah it is |
| 09:20.19 | Thumann | morning chaps |
| 09:23.26 | Zanix | hiya thum! |
| 09:23.31 | Zanix | havent seen you in some time |
| 09:23.49 | Zanix | how have you been? |
| 09:24.40 | Thumann | up n' down mate.. |
| 09:24.42 | Thumann | down atm |
| 09:24.58 | Thumann | dentist took out two wisdom teeth.. so i look like i was on the wrong end of a beating |
| 09:25.04 | Thumann | hehe.. soup ftl :( |
| 09:25.12 | Thumann | other than that.. i'm okay i guess |
| 09:25.32 | Thumann | been coding on a micro cms.. and fighting with hosting providers.. and been busy at work |
| 09:25.34 | Zanix | ewww |
| 09:25.35 | Thumann | in that order |
| 09:25.46 | Zanix | sounds like loads of fun |
| 09:25.53 | Thumann | yeah.. my mouth is full of stitches :/ |
| 09:26.56 | Zanix | i hope i never get those teeth, or if I do, hope I never have to get them removed |
| 09:28.07 | Zanix | ok PleegWat, commiting now |
| 09:28.55 | Thumann | what are you guys working on? |
| 09:29.11 | Thumann | i downloaded 1.7.1 looks nice :) |
| 09:30.01 | Zanix | 1.8 |
| 09:30.05 | Zanix | and 1.7.2 |
| 09:30.19 | Zanix | and UniAdmin <- just me on this |
| 09:30.37 | Zanix | andconverting itemstats to a module for dragonfly |
| 09:30.49 | Zanix | oh pleeg |
| 09:31.07 | Zanix | you are using $GLOBALS in alot of places in 1.8 |
| 09:31.32 | Zanix | the globals destroyer...destroys the $GLOBALS array |
| 09:33.04 | Zanix | well, ok not alot of places |
| 09:33.16 | Zanix | wowdb.php and commonfunctions.lib.php |
| 09:33.42 | Zanix | $GLOBALS['die_data'] and $GLOBALS['db_prefix'] |
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| 09:45.31 | Zanix | pleeg? |
| 09:45.58 | PleegWat | ya? |
| 09:46.02 | PleegWat | sry, was drinking coffee |
| 09:46.30 | PleegWat | Yeah I know those 2. |
| 09:46.46 | PleegWat | I put in the db_prefix thing in wowdb cause of a varname clash with SMF |
| 09:47.03 | Zanix | o |
| 09:47.05 | PleegWat | and the die_data construct isn't really doable differently |
| 09:47.13 | Zanix | crap |
| 09:47.23 | Zanix | so find another way...ok |
| 09:47.40 | PleegWat | The globals destroyer is only called once in settings right? |
| 09:48.15 | Zanix | yeah |
| 09:48.15 | PleegWat | I'll mod it so the db_prefix is simply passed to wowdb |
| 09:48.24 | Zanix | i could use this instead |
| 09:48.26 | Zanix | if (intval(ini_get('register_globals')) != 0) { |
| 09:48.26 | Zanix | foreach ($_REQUEST AS $key => $val) { if (isset($$key)) unset($$key); } |
| 09:48.26 | Zanix | } |
| 09:48.47 | PleegWat | yeah |
| 09:48.52 | PleegWat | and again for get, post |
| 09:48.53 | Zanix | that'll only get the cookie, post, and get |
| 09:48.55 | PleegWat | and cookie |
| 09:49.06 | PleegWat | No, you need to do get/post/cookie as well |
| 09:49.07 | Zanix | oh, yeah..of course |
| 09:49.12 | PleegWat | wait no |
| 09:49.21 | Zanix | request holds them all |
| 09:49.24 | PleegWat | they're stored seperately |
| 09:49.29 | PleegWat | but we're only interested in the key names |
| 09:49.32 | PleegWat | so just request is enough |
| 09:49.36 | Zanix | right |
| 09:49.38 | PleegWat | ANyway we need the get post etc stuff |
| 09:49.53 | Zanix | yeah, this just removes the auto globals thing |
| 09:50.07 | PleegWat | yeahg |
| 09:50.20 | Zanix | so we dont have $version or $some_weird_haxorz_get_val |
| 09:50.27 | PleegWat | We could destroy the REQUEST array |
| 09:50.35 | PleegWat | $_REQUEST |
| 09:50.37 | Zanix | we could... |
| 09:50.40 | PleegWat | since using that is ugly |
| 09:50.44 | Zanix | it ius |
| 09:50.54 | Zanix | and that would force use of GPC |
| 09:51.03 | PleegWat | same with $HTTP_GET_VARS $HTTP_POST_VARS $HTTP_COOKIE_VARS |
| 09:51.08 | Zanix | some stuff would have to be changed |
| 09:51.54 | PleegWat | yeah |
| 09:53.23 | Zanix | so , do the those global destroy in 1.8 then? |
| 09:53.40 | Zanix | $HTTP_GET_VARS $HTTP_POST_VARS $HTTP_COOKIE_VARS $REQUEST |
| 09:53.43 | PleegWat | yeah |
| 09:53.52 | PleegWat | Destroy those three since they're deprecated anyway |
| 09:54.22 | PleegWat | $_REQUEST since it's less relyable and GPC should be referenced explicitely |
| 09:54.46 | PleegWat | You know you're getting a POST value, you don't want a GET overriding it. Or the other way around |
| 09:54.53 | Zanix | right |
| 09:55.10 | Zanix | now i need to think of an easy way to destroy those |
| 09:55.45 | PleegWat | unset()? |
| 09:56.09 | Zanix | i don tthink you can unset a global array can you? |
| 09:56.40 | PleegWat | I think you can unset pretty much anything |
| 09:57.59 | Zanix | maybe |
| 10:01.16 | Zanix | i still cannot login on my 1.8 install |
| 10:01.47 | Thumann | unset($GLOBALS[$variable]) works |
| 10:02.44 | PleegWat | weird. Link? |
| 10:02.56 | PleegWat | ah wait, it's not keeping the cookie wasn't it |
| 10:04.22 | Zanix | yeah |
| 10:04.22 | PleegWat | Well it's working fine here and I'm synced with SVN |
| 10:04.22 | Zanix | logs in once, then doesnt hold |
| 10:04.23 | Zanix | :( |
| 10:05.06 | PleegWat | Yeah, that's probably caused by the cookie |
| 10:06.19 | Zanix | i dont think the = $GLOBALS['db_prefix'] is gonna work right |
| 10:06.26 | Zanix | its screwing up th einstaller |
| 10:06.37 | PleegWat | yeah |
| 10:06.51 | Zanix | yeah, it's not passing it to wowdb correctly |
| 10:06.53 | PleegWat | I like the idea of storing the db prefix in wowdb |
| 10:06.59 | Zanix | so do I |
| 10:07.09 | PleegWat | But I hacked it in like that cause I didn't want to look for all the places wowdb is initialized |
| 10:07.27 | Zanix | once, in settings.php |
| 10:07.34 | PleegWat | yeah, and in setup |
| 10:07.37 | Zanix | and in the installer and upgrader |
| 10:07.41 | PleegWat | yeah |
| 10:08.38 | Zanix | we could change to using defines |
| 10:08.49 | Zanix | but then that means upgrading a conf.php file again |
| 10:08.56 | Zanix | and i really dont wanna do that |
| 10:09.02 | PleegWat | variables work fine |
| 10:09.28 | PleegWat | $wowdb only uses the prefix for the table() function btw |
| 10:09.42 | Zanix | so it's not a biggie? |
| 10:10.22 | Zanix | then is this ok? |
| 10:10.23 | Zanix | $this->db_prefix = ( isset($GLOBALS['db_prefix']) ? $GLOBALS['db_prefix'] : ''); |
| 10:10.26 | Zanix | in wowdb? |
| 10:10.32 | PleegWat | that's what it is right? |
| 10:10.42 | PleegWat | Thought I already put that fix in |
| 10:10.44 | Zanix | $this->db_prefix = $GLOBALS['db_prefix']; |
| 10:10.49 | Zanix | thats what it is right now |
| 10:11.04 | PleegWat | oh |
| 10:11.13 | PleegWat | Well, it's nicest to just make it a passed var |
| 10:11.20 | Zanix | true |
| 10:11.31 | PleegWat | I think the db prefix is only used in table() and in lib/constants.php |
| 10:11.46 | Zanix | i belive so |
| 10:11.57 | Zanix | i can search for all instances that wowdb-connect is called |
| 10:12.47 | Zanix | there all cahnged |
| 10:13.37 | Zanix | the wowdb file creates it sown class |
| 10:13.45 | Zanix | $wowdb = new wowdb; |
| 10:13.53 | PleegWat | Yeah. I think we need to move that |
| 10:14.05 | PleegWat | All other classes are defined in a file but created seperately in config |
| 10:14.27 | Zanix | ok, easy to cahnge |
| 10:14.56 | Zanix | im also going to add a constrctor |
| 10:15.01 | Zanix | that just calls connect |
| 10:15.39 | PleegWat | so we can just do $wowdb=new wowdb($db_user,$db_pass,$db_prefix)? |
| 10:16.07 | Zanix | function wowdb( $host, $user, $password, $name=null, $db_prefix='' ) |
| 10:16.07 | Zanix | { |
| 10:16.07 | Zanix | return $this->connect($host, $user, $password, $name, $db_prefix); |
| 10:16.07 | Zanix | } |
| 10:16.10 | Zanix | yep |
| 10:16.12 | Zanix | exactly |
| 10:16.36 | Zanix | cahnge all the $wowdb->connect to |
| 10:16.37 | Zanix | $wowdb = new wowdb($db_host, $db_user, $db_passwd, $db_name, $db_prefix); |
| 10:16.45 | Zanix | easy :) |
| 10:16.47 | PleegWat | Yeah, that's nicest |
| 10:17.33 | Zanix | there al cahnged |
| 10:18.07 | Zanix | i wich i can figure out my cookie problem |
| 10:18.11 | Zanix | *wish |
| 10:18.38 | PleegWat | Might be something in the server config? |
| 10:19.25 | Zanix | could be |
| 10:19.33 | Zanix | http://cvsroster.homeip.net/roster1x/branches/adminpanel/phpinfo.php |
| 10:21.37 | PleegWat | And trunk on the same server is keeping the cookie correctly? |
| 10:22.34 | Zanix | yeah |
| 10:22.39 | Zanix | think so |
| 10:23.02 | Zanix | yep, it is |
| 10:25.15 | Zanix | damn |
| 10:25.21 | Zanix | i dunno what's up |
| 10:25.22 | PleegWat | login.php line 136 |
| 10:25.24 | PleegWat | setcookie( 'roster_pass',serialize($supplied),0,'/' ); |
| 10:25.30 | PleegWat | Try echoing a checkpoint there |
| 10:25.55 | PleegWat | Try doing an addslashes around the serialize as that might make the cookie stick |
| 10:27.00 | Zanix | Checking 123 |
| 10:27.09 | Zanix | ok, the echo is being reached |
| 10:27.26 | PleegWat | Anything if you show notices? |
| 10:27.27 | Zanix | just to let you know, i did set my magic quotes runtime off |
| 10:27.30 | Zanix | nope |
| 10:28.09 | PleegWat | Can you check if your browser shows the full headers the server is sending somewhere? |
| 10:29.26 | Zanix | i dunno |
| 10:29.41 | Zanix | can you set FF2 to do that? |
| 10:30.33 | PleegWat | dunno |
| 10:30.48 | PleegWat | Hm, a bit higher try escaping the line that calls $this->logout() |
| 10:32.26 | Zanix | $this->checkLogout(); |
| 10:32.28 | Zanix | you mean? |
| 10:32.33 | PleegWat | yes |
| 10:32.58 | Zanix | comment it out? |
| 10:33.01 | PleegWat | yeah |
| 10:33.06 | PleegWat | comment out the function call |
| 10:33.17 | PleegWat | It might be logging you out as it logs you in |
| 10:34.15 | Zanix | no change |
| 10:35.21 | PleegWat | OK long shot. Try dieing with the login message at the point where you put in the checkpoint earlier |
| 10:35.33 | PleegWat | then reload the page after it dies |
| 10:35.41 | PleegWat | Make sure nothing is overwriting the cookie |
| 10:36.43 | Zanix | wait, the cookie has an expire tim eof 0 |
| 10:36.48 | Zanix | is that right? |
| 10:36.52 | PleegWat | that's 'this session only' |
| 10:37.16 | Zanix | ah, ok |
| 10:37.37 | PleegWat | you can also try doing a var_dump() around the setcookie |
| 10:37.46 | PleegWat | should return false if it's not setting the cookie |
| 10:37.58 | Zanix | print $this->loginmsg;die(); |
| 10:38.01 | Zanix | like that? |
| 10:38.04 | PleegWat | yeah |
| 10:38.06 | Zanix | ok |
| 10:38.22 | PleegWat | at the end of that message. After it sets the login message. |
| 10:38.37 | Zanix | oh, after |
| 10:38.50 | PleegWat | yeah, at line 141 or so |
| 10:39.24 | PleegWat | damn wait no won't work. |
| 10:39.57 | Zanix | you try logging in on my site |
| 10:40.35 | PleegWat | hey something is sticking now |
| 10:40.39 | Zanix | you try logging in, it shows the page..but then if you submit or try going to another admin page, it kicks you out with incorrect5 user or pass |
| 10:40.51 | PleegWat | yeah |
| 10:41.02 | PleegWat | but that's an improvement because earlier it wasn't sticking at all |
| 10:41.06 | Zanix | right |
| 10:41.15 | Zanix | i cleared my cookies since then |
| 10:41.15 | PleegWat | You did the addslashes aroudn the serialize thing? |
| 10:41.26 | Zanix | not yet |
| 10:41.29 | PleegWat | oh |
| 10:41.31 | PleegWat | hm |
| 10:41.49 | Zanix | ill do that now though |
| 10:41.54 | PleegWat | no, don't |
| 10:42.06 | PleegWat | at line 93 add a var_dump($supplied) |
| 10:42.44 | Zanix | before if ($supplied['user'] == 'Roster_Admin') |
| 10:42.44 | PleegWat | whoops damn I see it |
| 10:42.54 | PleegWat | never mind, I'll submit a possible fix |
| 10:43.01 | PleegWat | It's the magic quotes off again |
| 10:43.10 | Zanix | i thought it may be |
| 10:43.11 | PleegWat | line 70-77 |
| 10:43.20 | PleegWat | Just leave 72 |
| 10:43.38 | PleegWat | $supplied = unserialize(stripslashes($_COOKIE['roster_pass'])); |
| 10:43.39 | PleegWat | that one |
| 10:43.48 | Zanix | there we go |
| 10:43.51 | Zanix | works now |
| 10:44.01 | PleegWat | good |
| 10:44.04 | Zanix | lol, we need to just turn that off in settings.php |
| 10:44.20 | Zanix | before we escape the arrays |
| 10:44.32 | PleegWat | what do we need to turn off? |
| 10:44.38 | PleegWat | oh |
| 10:44.43 | PleegWat | yeah, could do that |
| 10:45.06 | Zanix | just so it consistent |
| 10:45.19 | Zanix | so we know we are dealing with it off |
| 10:46.26 | Zanix | the members update summary doesnt look like its working right |
| 10:46.34 | Zanix | # Members Update Summary |
| 10:46.34 | Zanix | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:46.34 | Zanix | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:46.34 | Zanix | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:46.34 | Zanix | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:46.35 | Zanix | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:46.45 | PleegWat | That's generated by memberlog |
| 10:46.51 | Zanix | ah, right |
| 10:46.58 | PleegWat | which I might have kinda broken with the table changes |
| 10:47.06 | Zanix | definatly |
| 10:47.18 | Zanix | we would need to add guild/realm to that |
| 10:47.27 | Zanix | whcih could be done with id # |
| 10:48.01 | PleegWat | I think it already stores guild right? |
| 10:48.11 | PleegWat | I just couldn't keep track of how it was storing it |
| 10:48.16 | Zanix | yeah,m it does |
| 10:48.19 | PleegWat | or passing it more |
| 10:48.37 | PleegWat | Since sometimes you pass a $row with get_array, sometimes with get_assoc |
| 10:48.51 | Zanix | well, both work |
| 10:48.56 | Zanix | i thnk |
| 10:49.01 | Zanix | uh, maybe not |
| 10:49.02 | Zanix | crap |
| 10:49.03 | Zanix | lol |
| 10:49.18 | PleegWat | And in case of a guild move I need to send a remove from the old guild and an add to the new guild |
| 10:49.24 | Zanix | well, whenever an add or delete user action happens, setMemberLog() is called |
| 10:49.36 | PleegWat | But the counter should handle that somehow and I don't know how |
| 10:49.43 | Zanix | we could add a 'moved' action |
| 10:49.49 | PleegWat | with 2 guildnames? |
| 10:50.04 | Zanix | maybe |
| 10:50.21 | PleegWat | Back when I was messing with it I kinda figured 'I'll let zanix handle it since it's his code' |
| 10:50.22 | Zanix | an optional parameter |
| 10:50.28 | Zanix | lol |
| 10:50.30 | Zanix | that works |
| 10:50.42 | Zanix | thats why im buggin you about the login stuff |
| 10:50.47 | PleegWat | yeah |
| 10:50.48 | Zanix | :) |
| 10:51.13 | PleegWat | You commit that fix I put up, or should I/; |
| 10:51.28 | Zanix | but the array passed into setMemberLog() should be accoc |
| 10:51.56 | Zanix | because updateMemberlog() needs an array with names as the keys, not numbers |
| 10:52.04 | Zanix | you can commit |
| 10:54.27 | Zanix | wait doesnt mysql_fetch_array get both numbered and named keyed arrays |
| 10:54.37 | PleegWat | could be |
| 10:54.40 | PleegWat | I committed the login fix |
| 10:54.50 | Zanix | yes, it does |
| 10:54.52 | Zanix | cool |
| 10:55.00 | PleegWat | There's fetch_row, fetch_assoc, and fetch_array |
| 10:55.07 | PleegWat | One fetches numbers, one names, one both |
| 10:55.20 | PleegWat | I know fetch_assoc fetches at least names |
| 10:56.31 | Zanix | fetch_row => enumerated array |
| 10:56.40 | Zanix | fetch_array => both |
| 10:56.42 | PleegWat | if fetch_array does both than probably fetch_assoc is names and fetch_row is numbers |
| 10:56.50 | Zanix | yep, it is |
| 10:58.41 | PleegWat | http://www.blizzard.com/wow/screenshot.aspx?ImageIndex=98&Set=64 LOL |
| 11:01.13 | Zanix | nice |
| 11:01.17 | Zanix | thats awesome |
| 11:05.30 | Zanix | ok, I need this sql querry reworked to get data that i need |
| 11:05.32 | Zanix | SELECT * FROM `".ROSTER_MEMBERSTABLE."` WHERE `guild_id` = '$guildId' AND `member_id` = '$name_escape' AND `class` = '".$char['Class']."'; |
| 11:05.39 | Zanix | line 2005 in wowdb.php |
| 11:06.47 | PleegWat | INNER JOIN `".ROSTER_CHARACTERSTABLE."` USING (`member_id`) |
| 11:06.49 | Zanix | i need member_id, name, guild_id, calss, level, note, guild_rank, guild_title, officer_note, update_time |
| 11:06.58 | Zanix | ah, ok |
| 11:07.30 | PleegWat | Basically just join in characters if you need the old members table |
| 11:07.57 | Zanix | ok |
| 11:08.28 | PleegWat | For the old players table you need to pay a bit more attention cause usually both players and members are called but in the new system you only need characters and players |
| 11:10.06 | Zanix | well since i need the data from that table |
| 11:10.12 | Zanix | i need it, lol |
| 11:10.31 | Zanix | also, the guild members are not getting set with the correct guild id |
| 11:10.37 | Zanix | it's et to 0 |
| 11:11.10 | PleegWat | On most occasions if you need members or players you'll need characters as well |
| 11:11.40 | Zanix | yeah |
| 11:11.41 | PleegWat | Just when you use players you currently also take members which you don't always need in the new system. |
| 11:13.40 | PleegWat | meh, gonna play game. |
| 11:15.45 | Zanix | ok |
| 11:50.58 | Zanix | ok, commited cahnges |
| 11:51.02 | Zanix | and im going to bed |
| 11:51.05 | Zanix | night pleeg |
| 11:51.14 | Zanix | and thanks for the help with debugging |
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| 17:52.45 | PleegWat | hi |
| 17:55.04 | Anaxent | good morning |
| 17:55.13 | Anaxent | how are you doing today PleegWat |
| 17:55.25 | PleegWat | fine |
| 17:55.31 | PleegWat | Took a look at SMF's license |
| 17:55.42 | Anaxent | really.... |
| 17:55.55 | PleegWat | I've been doing some work on porting it |
| 17:55.57 | Anaxent | anything in there that will stop us from making it into an addon |
| 17:56.09 | PleegWat | We need their permission to distribute a modded version |
| 17:56.15 | Anaxent | i see |
| 17:56.27 | PleegWat | If we diff between the modded and the original the diff is freely distributable |
| 17:56.39 | PleegWat | But for distributing a modified version, either seperately or bundled, we need permission |
| 17:56.51 | Anaxent | and i remember Matt saying he would be willing to making a forum addon do you think he would be doing a posrt or designing from the ground up |
| 17:57.00 | PleegWat | From their forums I don't have the impression that'll be a problem though |
| 17:57.22 | PleegWat | I heard he'd try a phpBB port |
| 17:57.31 | PleegWat | But haven't heard how that's going |
| 17:57.54 | Anaxent | and there is also the forumspro module that wowroster uses which i thnk is pretty nice worse comes to worse im sure it can be modded as it is alredy a sort of addon |
| 17:58.14 | PleegWat | Yeah, forumspro is nice too |
| 17:58.44 | Anaxent | offers a bit of what we all like from all the diffrent forums out there |
| 17:58.48 | PleegWat | I've done a bit on phpbb before trying to merge it into my first guild stie |
| 17:58.59 | PleegWat | Didn't work well |
| 17:59.09 | PleegWat | Had trouble getting it to run from a different directory |
| 17:59.20 | PleegWat | Course I didn't know much php back then, but still |
| 18:00.05 | PleegWat | I haven't had to do ANY modifications to SMF for that. All I've done is changing the links to use the framework and some template work. |
| 18:01.25 | Anaxent | yeah smf allows to be ran easy with in sub dirs |
| 18:01.48 | Anaxent | i think with bb cookie setup is where u would have troubles |
| 18:02.14 | PleegWat | Also SMF has the SSI.php which allows us to fetch menu stuff directly from the forums |
| 18:02.25 | PleegWat | news and such I mean |
| 18:02.41 | PleegWat | So you could have a news page with comment support and everything powered by it as well |
| 18:03.40 | Anaxent | really so you are saying with smf besides using it for just forums it can also act as a news addon |
| 18:03.54 | PleegWat | Anyway I haven't looked at it's auth stuff too hard yet. Looks pretty modular. |
| 18:04.17 | PleegWat | But I want the modified roster auth with groups support before I start porting that auth |
| 18:05.29 | Anaxent | right it will be very nice to have the group support |
| 18:05.29 | PleegWat | yup |
| 18:05.53 | Anaxent | and if it wasnt so damn hard to build a forum from the ground up..... |
| 18:06.08 | PleegWat | Let's not reinvent the wheel shall we? |
| 18:06.28 | PleegWat | I'd prefer to write the framework stuff from scratch for licensing reasons |
| 18:06.46 | Anaxent | i hear u there about the reinvent the wheel aspect |
| 18:08.03 | Anaxent | it just comes down to learning the way they wrote there frame work and getting it to work flawlessly with rosters tables |
| 18:08.16 | Anaxent | did you see what this guy did with his bank? |
| 18:08.17 | Anaxent | http://www.ironcladgathering.com/roster/addon.php?roster_addon_name=guildbank |
| 18:08.27 | Anaxent | click on a bank item |
| 18:08.48 | Anaxent | it seems that has linked it to post to his forums |
| 18:09.11 | Anaxent | almost like the treasury addon in a few ways |
| 18:10.00 | PleegWat | ic |
| 18:10.01 | PleegWat | nice |
| 18:11.19 | Anaxent | i like the idea there it something like that for roster would rock if it could not only post to the forums but as well to a lua so UU can get updates for the bank toons |
| 18:11.44 | Anaxent | as well as a feature for the admin to adjust prices for the items with gold or dkp |
| 18:12.05 | PleegWat | The downside of everything coming together like that is dependancies |
| 18:12.07 | Anaxent | with the upcoming releases im sure this will be much easier to accomplish |
| 18:12.11 | PleegWat | We don't have native handling for that |
| 18:12.21 | Anaxent | right |
| 18:13.47 | Anaxent | but the native handling is something to be thinking about or atleast for the direction you all want roster to take and what you really would like out of it |
| 18:14.08 | PleegWat | Well of course a main point is how you want to approach things. |
| 18:15.06 | PleegWat | IF you have a function in GB that uses the forum module, what work goes where |
| 18:15.16 | PleegWat | Is there a forum module? How does the forum module work? |
| 18:15.51 | PleegWat | What if by the time 1.8 comes out I have SMF ported, Matt has phpBB ported, and you have ForumsPro ported, and all 3 are offered as addons? |
| 18:16.51 | Anaxent | see I think having too many optins with the forums could be a bad idea |
| 18:16.59 | Anaxent | meaning yeah we all like what we like |
| 18:17.15 | Anaxent | we like some things from smf and dont from phpbb |
| 18:17.32 | PleegWat | A possible way would be having a central registration of actions an addon offers to another addon. |
| 18:17.47 | Anaxent | but in reallity we all know what we really desire out of the forums and what features would be best or we will always use |
| 18:17.54 | PleegWat | 'Create a forum topic on board X' |
| 18:18.32 | Anaxent | there for having one forum addon and adding to it or take away what we desire for roster |
| 18:18.40 | PleegWat | yeah |
| 18:18.45 | PleegWat | But that doesn't keep working. |
| 18:19.10 | PleegWat | Or even forked development |
| 18:19.27 | PleegWat | We don't have just the Dev team to attend to. |
| 18:21.20 | PleegWat | Maybe just stick with what handling there is now. Guildbank can check in the addons table if an addon with basename 'SMF' is installed and active. If it is, it can look up the version number (if needed) and fetch data from its tables, possibly using its functions for the job, or create a link to one of its pages |
| 18:21.57 | PleegWat | That'd mean Guildbank is the only thing that needs to be changed if a new version of SMF works differently, or if phpBB is used instead. |
| 18:23.00 | Anaxent | what if forums was apart of the core as an idea should allow more leway in making other addons for roster or tiyng into roster/forums functions better |
| 18:23.38 | Anaxent | but that would still come down to one forum addon rather than multiable forum options |
| 18:23.52 | PleegWat | I'm not following |
| 18:24.11 | PleegWat | Forums as an example of how an addon can tie into roster? |
| 18:24.21 | Anaxent | one sec let me rethink this in my head a bit |
| 18:25.02 | PleegWat | I've been considering myself that the PvPlog processing/display code could be made into an addon |
| 18:25.49 | PleegWat | Zeryl is reworking the keys page, and I've suggested to him it could be made in an addon as well, caching key status on character upload using a trigger. He seemed to like the idea. |
| 18:26.21 | Anaxent | yeah that there makes sence |
| 18:26.37 | Anaxent | really most links for roste can now be an addon |
| 18:26.41 | PleegWat | Even stuff like the main listings could be turned into an addon |
| 18:27.50 | PleegWat | That'd also allow us to move toward calling everything from 1 or 2 files |
| 18:28.47 | Anaxent | yeah that would be cool |
| 18:28.47 | PleegWat | In the current layout those would be addon.php and rostercp.php, but we could even merge those 2 if they're the only 2 left. |
| 18:28.54 | Anaxent | and that could also drop the db calls |
| 18:29.53 | PleegWat | We're lowering the amount of db calls in some places only. The new addon framework uses serveral extra ones because stuff that previously used file scans is now looked up in the DB. |
| 18:31.49 | PleegWat | Course presumably DB is faster than file scans because the DB results are cached by mysql |
| 18:33.01 | PleegWat | If you request 100 roster pages in 5 minutes MySQL is only gonna look up the button grid info (2 queries) once, the other 99 times it'll fetch it from the query cache |
| 18:33.22 | PleegWat | And I suspect the DB is faster than file scans even without considering the cache |
| 18:33.30 | Anaxent | Zeryl was saying that each member in the keys page makes 8 calls and he was going to try getting the whole page down to a total of 8 calls |
| 18:33.49 | PleegWat | yeah, I heard. Should be possible. |
| 18:34.07 | PleegWat | Call the key query once per key only for all members. |
| 18:34.37 | PleegWat | s/e/a/ |
| 18:34.55 | PleegWat | Call the key query once per key only for all members. |
| 18:34.57 | PleegWat | s/e/a/g |
| 18:36.14 | PleegWat | Anyway one of the reasons I put in the menu customization is easing up the process of splitting roster into addons |
| 18:45.45 | Anaxent | ui.worldofwar.net is giving away bc keys |
| 18:45.54 | Anaxent | 3 are being given out now i think |
| 18:46.09 | Anaxent | im logged into the irc and hope for the best |
| 18:51.45 | Anaxent | ahh... The winners |
| 18:51.45 | Anaxent | <Flukes> of keys 9, 10 and 11 |
| 18:51.45 | Anaxent | <Flukes> are |
| 18:51.45 | Anaxent | * Cow (~Cow@203-109-238-38.bliink.ihug.co.nz) has joined #wow |
| 18:51.45 | Anaxent | <Flukes> Leeloo, RTSman, and Stoner|Work |
| 19:00.55 | Anaxent | We have 32 keys left to give away over the next week -- Keys are given at completely random times |
| 21:42.09 | Anaxent | another drawing in 18mins for a bc key |
| 21:43.31 | Anaxent | http://bc.worldofwar.net/ |
| 23:22.31 | Zanix | hiya |
| 23:24.09 | Anaxent | hey hows it going Zanix |
| 23:24.14 | Anaxent | u just get off work |
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| 23:27.35 | Anaxent | wb |
| 23:28.07 | Zanix | thanks |
| 23:30.11 | Anaxent | http://www.worldofraids.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=972 |
| 23:30.17 | Anaxent | some cool patterns there |
| 23:32.57 | Zanix | cool |
| 23:35.19 | Anaxent | so did you just get off work |
| 23:35.34 | Zanix | no, i had stuff to do today |
| 23:35.34 | Anaxent | my day is dragging here |
| 23:36.16 | Zanix | that sucks |
| 23:36.26 | Anaxent | yeah it does |
| 23:36.50 | Anaxent | im also logged into ui.worldofwar.net irc to hope to win a bc key |
| 23:37.10 | Anaxent | they have 28 left to give out in the next 6 days |
| 23:38.16 | Zanix | im logged in there as well |
| 23:38.49 | Anaxent | cool it would be nice to get a sneek peak and test with roster |
| 23:39.01 | Zanix | it would |
| 23:39.11 | Anaxent | or even to get a few of there winners to check out wowroster.net just to help |
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| 23:41.19 | Anaxent | wb PleegWat |
| 23:42.18 | Anaxent | ah zanix |
| 23:42.38 | Anaxent | how did you turn on both blocks for roster and then only the left side in the addons |
| 23:42.57 | Zanix | did I? |
| 23:43.04 | Anaxent | nvm it just seems that way with gear browser |
| 23:43.23 | Zanix | ah, must be an html error |
| 23:43.32 | Zanix | ewww, definatly |
| 23:43.36 | Anaxent | yeah |
| 23:43.48 | Anaxent | that would be cool if we can turn them on and off per addon |
| 23:43.56 | Anaxent | i wonder |