IRC log for #wowprogramming on 20110116

00:20.53lua_botNew edit on node 'docs/api/GetInventorySlotInfo' by pauladin (No summary) - http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetInventorySlotInfo
00:22.09lua_botNew edit on node 'docs/api/GetInventorySlotInfo' by pauladin (No summary) - http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetInventorySlotInfo
00:31.23lua_botNew edit on node 'docs/api/GetInventoryItemID' by pauladin (No summary) - http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetInventoryItemID
00:33.12lua_botNew edit on node 'docs/api/GetInventoryItemID' by pauladin (No summary) - http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetInventoryItemID
00:44.33lua_botNew edit on node 'docs/api/GetInventorySlotInfo' by pauladin (No summary) - http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetInventorySlotInfo
00:56.11lua_botNew edit on node 'docs/api/GetInventoryItemLink' by pauladin (No summary) - http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetInventoryItemLink
01:07.27lua_botNew edit on node 'docs/api/IsAltKeyDown' by pauladin (Added links to the two other "is modifier keys pressed" functions) - http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/IsAltKeyDown
01:07.28lua_botNew edit on node 'docs/api/IsShiftKeyDown' by pauladin (Added links to the other two "is modifier key pressed" functions) - http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/IsShiftKeyDown
01:09.53lua_botNew edit on node 'docs/api/IsControlKeyDown' by pauladin (Added link to the two other "is modifier key pressed" functions) - http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/IsControlKeyDown
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11:00.48lua_botNew edit on node 'docs/api/GetInventoryItemLink' by jnwhiteh (No summary) - http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetInventoryItemLink
11:14.48lua_botNew edit on node 'docs/api_types' by jnwhiteh (Fixing some links) - http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api_types
11:19.29lua_botNew edit on node 'docs/api/BankButtonIDToInvSlotID' by jnwhiteh (No summary) - http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/BankButtonIDToInvSlotID
11:26.28lua_botNew edit on node 'docs/api/GetInventoryItemLink' by jnwhiteh (No summary) - http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetInventoryItemLink
11:28.48lua_botNew edit on node 'docs/api/GetInventoryItemLink' by jnwhiteh (No summary) - http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetInventoryItemLink
11:32.24jnwhitehAdys: GAH
11:32.27jnwhiteh*cry*
11:32.34Adysjnwhiteh: sup
11:32.42jnwhitehthis guy who made all these changes last night
11:32.45jnwhitehI've got 10 emails going with him
11:32.48jnwhitehtrying to sort things out
11:32.55jnwhitehhis examples are just bypassing the documentation that we already have
11:33.01jnwhitehand they're wrong and not future proof
11:33.05jnwhitehand I'm trying to convince him of this
11:33.12Adys<PROTECTED>
11:33.18jnwhitehi've spent the last 6 hours trying to figure out how to display an itemString to the user. It took an hour to figure out that you cannot get an itemString by itself, it has to be part of an item link. This isn't mentioned anywhere. Then it was 4 hours trying to figure out how to actually get an item's link, which is different between an item's link, and an equipped item's link.
11:33.27jnwhitehall he had to do was click on the "itemString" link
11:33.29jnwhitehits the only blue link on the page
11:33.32jnwhitehand it would have told him, clearly
11:34.14jnwhitehI'm going to add links to the other API categories
11:34.19jnwhitehwhere on the page do you think this should be
11:34.27jnwhitehfor example for http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/IsShiftKeyDown
11:34.31jnwhitehshow a link to 'keyboard'
11:34.35jnwhitehhow/where?
11:34.42jnwhitehbecause, like in this case
11:34.49AdysThe see also?
11:34.53jnwhitehhe links to IsAltKeyDown and IsControlkeyDown, but NOT IsLeftShiftKeyDown()
11:34.55jnwhitehno
11:34.56jnwhitehthat's his
11:34.57jnwhitehand its being removed
11:35.01jnwhitehbecause ITS not complete
11:35.08jnwhitehand it gives people an impression that there are only three functions
11:35.12jnwhitehthere are actually 9
11:35.38Adysshould be a feature imo
11:35.41Adysinstead of hacking it up
11:35.47jnwhitehthat's what I'ms aying
11:35.55jnwhitehI'm changing this page
11:36.00jnwhitehthe whole API function page template
11:36.00Adysnethertheless, if anywhere, it should be under the description, as a single line list
11:36.09jnwhitehso it includes links to the 'keyboard' category
11:36.09AdysSee also IsAltKeyDown, IsControlKeyDown
11:36.13jnwhitehno
11:36.15jnwhitehits not goign todo that
11:36.17jnwhitehits never goig to do that
11:36.21jnwhitehbecause it will always be wrong
11:36.26jnwhitehso its going to link to the cateories
11:36.27jnwhitehwhich _ARE_ right
11:36.30jnwhitehand accurate
11:36.48Adysyeah you know what i mean
11:36.56Adysshouldnt be a multiline list is what i meant
11:37.00jnwhitehso maybe Categories: Keyboard functions, Unit functions
11:37.06jnwhitehwould that make sense?
11:37.08AdysHmm
11:37.19jnwhitehthe site is slow this morning =/
11:38.48AdysSee also: Keyboard functions, Unit functions
11:38.48AdysI'd say
11:39.01jnwhitehokay
11:39.15Adysactually remove that colon
11:39.38jnwhitehreally?
11:39.42Adysaye
11:39.51jnwhitehI think I'd like the :
11:40.11Adyscolon only makes sense if you're labeling a list, "See also" doesn't label, it prepends
11:40.15Adys"Categories" labels
11:40.36Adysso either "See also foo(), bar()." or "Categories: Foo, Bar"
11:41.10jnwhitehdoes it matter if this is semantically a UL?
11:41.12jnwhitehprobably should be
11:41.33Adysum yea feel free
11:41.52AdysI probably wouldn't, since every element is a link
11:48.22jnwhitehwhats a function with multiple categories?
11:49.58jnwhitehAdys: help me style it, and its done :P
11:50.06Adysa what what?
11:50.09Adysand um sure
11:50.10Adyslink
11:50.16jnwhitehhttp://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetInventoryItemLink
11:51.07Adysjnwhiteh: I'd put it under the description instead of under the signature, just in a newline, non-bold
11:51.15Adysthen 1em jump
11:51.17Adysthen signature
11:52.18Adysalso I'd change p{} (typography.css:38) to margin: 1.5em 0 0 0;
11:52.21Adysinstead of the opposite
11:55.53jnwhitehAdys: so <br> then the see also line
11:55.55jnwhitehor just in a <p>?
11:55.59jnwhitehor a <div>
11:56.07AdysI'd say <br/>
11:56.36jnwhitehokay, <p> changed
11:56.41jnwhitehtell me if it borks future things
11:56.44jnwhitehit may
11:56.56Adysokay
11:57.02jnwhitehokay
11:57.02jnwhitehhttp://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetInventoryItemLink
11:59.56Adysbtw, add a period at the end =)
12:00.29jnwhitehdone
12:01.17jnwhitehhrm
12:03.27lua_botNew edit on node 'docs/api/GetInventorySlotInfo' by jnwhiteh (No summary) - http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetInventorySlotInfo
12:03.28lua_botNew edit on node 'docs/api/IsControlKeyDown' by jnwhiteh (Remove links to other functions, use category link) - http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/IsControlKeyDown
12:03.29lua_botNew edit on node 'docs/api/IsAltKeyDown' by jnwhiteh (Remove links to other functions, use category link) - http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/IsAltKeyDown
12:03.30lua_botNew edit on node 'docs/api/IsShiftKeyDown' by jnwhiteh (Remove links to other functions, use category link) - http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/IsShiftKeyDown
12:04.42lua_botNew edit on node 'docs/api/GetInventoryItemID' by jnwhiteh (No summary) - http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetInventoryItemID
12:05.44lua_botNew edit on node 'docs/api/GetInventoryItemID' by jnwhiteh (No summary) - http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetInventoryItemID
12:06.51lua_botNew edit on node 'docs/api/GetInventorySlotInfo' by jnwhiteh (No summary) - http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetInventorySlotInfo
12:08.23lua_botNew edit on node 'docs/api/GetInventoryItemLink' by jnwhiteh (No summary) - http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetInventoryItemLink
12:09.28lua_botNew edit on node 'docs/api/GetAuctionItemClasses' by jnwhiteh (No summary) - http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetAuctionItemClasses
12:10.22jnwhitehAdys: there's too much space in places now
12:10.24jnwhitehdo you see it?
12:10.27jnwhitehhttp://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetReforgeItemInfo
12:10.40lua_botNew edit on node 'docs/api/GetAuctionItemSubClasses' by jnwhiteh (No summary) - http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetAuctionItemSubClasses
12:10.48Adysah
12:10.51Adysum
12:10.51Adyssec
12:11.01Adysremove the margin entirely
12:11.02Adysand do
12:11.13Adysah..
12:11.24Adysyou should have each of them held in a div
12:11.30jnwhitehthey are
12:11.41Adysnot all of them nop
12:11.42lua_botNew edit on node 'docs/api/GetReforgeItemInfo' by jnwhiteh (No summary) - http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetReforgeItemInfo
12:11.43Adyslike
12:11.55jnwhitehyes, i see, some are not.
12:12.02jnwhitehokay, hopping in shower
12:13.29Adys<.api-listing> <.api-desc.block/> <.api-sig.block/> <.api-ret.block/> <.api-example.block/> </div>
12:13.30Adysso on
12:13.56Adysremove the margin from the p and add a margin-down to .block
12:24.36jnwhitehhrm ok
12:24.39jnwhitehi'll look at that when I get back
12:24.39jnwhitehthank you
12:25.08jnwhitehI may make api_types a collection
12:25.19jnwhitehlike http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api_master
12:25.24jnwhitehnot sure
12:25.36jnwhitehand make the categories pages so we can have per-category documentation
12:25.38jnwhitehoverviews
12:25.41jnwhitehlike on the widgets
12:25.48jnwhitehhttp://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/CheckButton
12:25.53jnwhitehthoughts?
12:25.57jnwhitehoff to run errands, then back later
14:20.18lua_botNew edit on node 'forums/development/432' by supercore (No summary) - http://wowprogramming.com/forums/development/432
16:14.02jnwhiteh*growl*
16:51.51lua_botNew edit on node 'docs/api/GetInventoryItemID' by jnwhiteh (No summary) - http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetInventoryItemID
16:54.18lua_botNew edit on node 'docs/api/BankButtonIDToInvSlotID' by jnwhiteh (No summary) - http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/BankButtonIDToInvSlotID
16:54.19lua_botNew edit on node 'docs/api/ContainerIDToInventoryID' by jnwhiteh (No summary) - http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/ContainerIDToInventoryID
16:54.20lua_botNew edit on node 'docs/api/KeyRingButtonIDToInvSlotID' by jnwhiteh (No summary) - http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/KeyRingButtonIDToInvSlotID
17:01.18lua_botNew edit on node 'docs/api/GetInventorySlotInfo' by jnwhiteh (No summary) - http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetInventorySlotInfo
17:14.19lua_botNew edit on node 'docs/api/GetInventorySlotInfo' by jnwhiteh (No summary) - http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetInventorySlotInfo
17:17.27lua_botNew edit on node 'docs/api/GetInventorySlotInfo' by jnwhiteh (No summary) - http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetInventorySlotInfo
17:36.14jnwhitehAdys: I am so frustrated with this guy
17:36.16jnwhiteh=(
17:36.29Adyswhat'd he do again?
17:36.37jnwhitehand its mostly not his fault, just misunderstanding.
17:36.51jnwhitehhe just added examples, covering stuff that was alreayd documented
17:36.54jnwhitehand these examples weren't good
17:37.00jnwhitehthey were to 'cover' stuff he didn't understand
17:41.26jnwhitehHere's an example of what he was doing
17:41.26jnwhitehhttp://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetInventorySlotInfo&version=16
17:41.31jnwhitehhe thinks its important to show the returs
17:41.36jnwhitehI was like... uhh.. run the fucking code
17:41.39jnwhitehthat's why its there
17:41.45jnwhitehI dont care what numeric item you have equipped
17:41.53jnwhitehthen he said "you can't run code in wow"
17:41.54jnwhitehi cried
17:42.12jnwhitehI told him this is what I want, an ideal example
17:42.13jnwhitehhttp://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetInventorySlotInfo
17:42.21jnwhitehjust very frustrated with him
17:42.24jnwhitehhe seems to not understand
17:42.31jnwhitehand wants the site to change to fit his needs
17:42.33jnwhitehand that's not going to happen
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17:52.37lua_botNew edit on node 'docs/api/GetInventorySlotInfo' by jnwhiteh (No summary) - http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetInventorySlotInfo
18:11.18lua_botNew edit on node 'docs/api_types' by jnwhiteh (No summary) - http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api_types
18:27.30jnwhitehAdys: you there
18:27.36jnwhitehcan I bitch for like 3 seconds?
18:28.42jnwhitehI know the meta-type system sucks.. its one long page that sucks to edit, I can fix that.
18:28.57jnwhitehBut for something like 'inventoryID'.. does it make sense to explain it there and have the links that we have to it
18:29.10jnwhitehbecause he wants an example on every single page showing what those numbers are
18:29.16jnwhitehand that makes me want to cry
18:49.18Adysjnwhiteh: um
18:49.19Adyssec
18:50.43jnwhitehdon't worry about it
18:50.45jnwhitehi raged elsewhere
19:06.08lua_botNew edit on node 'docs/api/GetInventoryItemDurability' by jnwhiteh (No summary) - http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetInventoryItemDurability
19:07.18lua_botNew edit on node 'docs/api/GetInventoryItemDurability' by jnwhiteh (No summary) - http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetInventoryItemDurability
20:42.06lua_botNew edit on node 'docs/api_types' by pauladin (Documented 3 Xxx_CONTAINER constants from Constants.lua) - http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api_types

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