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| 15:04.11 | nevcairiel | finally got my books |
| 15:04.40 | cladhaire | yay! |
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| 15:11.42 | nevcairiel | anyone want one? got 2 spares =P |
| 15:16.48 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 15:16.51 | cladhaire | your name is in it |
| 15:16.54 | cladhaire | give one to your parents |
| 15:17.07 | nevcairiel | yeah seen already |
| 15:17.15 | cladhaire | i thought you bitches would be _happy_ that we sent extras |
| 15:17.16 | cladhaire | that's why we did it |
| 15:17.33 | cladhaire | because they screwed up so royally in getting you guys the book in the first place |
| 15:17.37 | cladhaire | so i made him send 3 |
| 15:17.41 | cladhaire | >< |
| 15:17.46 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 15:17.51 | nevcairiel | yeah its nice, i just need to figure out what to do :) |
| 15:18.06 | [Ammo] | kaelten needs my phonenumber before he can convince em to send em or somethng |
| 15:18.10 | [Ammo] | ugh |
| 15:18.25 | [Ammo] | so I am teh waiting :) |
| 15:18.26 | nevcairiel | dutch customs even worse? |
| 15:18.30 | [Ammo] | I dunno |
| 15:18.37 | [Ammo] | Kaelten isn't on irc that often |
| 15:18.45 | [Ammo] | but he was taking care of it or something |
| 15:29.44 | cog|work | nah... they need phone number even in US |
| 15:30.01 | cog|work | for UPS or FedEx |
| 15:38.22 | nevcairiel | but its big alright |
| 15:42.31 | cladhaire | lol yeah |
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| 17:48.21 | Zethe | what's the difference between getglobal(...) and _G[...] |
| 17:54.10 | MentalPower|ZzZz | latter is faster |
| 17:54.27 | MentalPower|ZzZz | first is a function call, the latter is just a table access |
| 17:55.19 | MentalPower|ZzZz | well, first is global lookup for function, call function, then table access for the parameter, the second is global lookup for the _G table and table lookup for the key |
| 17:55.20 | Zethe | yeah that's what i figured... but why would anyone ever use the former |
| 17:55.32 | MentalPower|ZzZz | cause _G was not available till WoW 2.0 |
| 17:56.33 | MentalPower|AFK | clad|away: I *LOVE* the extras :) |
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| 20:25.31 | Zethe | how can i set a color for the unfilled part of a status bar |
| 20:27.47 | cog|work | I think you use the backdrop to determine what's behind the bar itself |
| 20:28.33 | cog|work | just like any other frame's backdrop |
| 20:30.15 | cog|work | or a normal texture in a layer that's below the status bar texture |
| 20:33.56 | Zethe | err ok |
| 20:34.25 | Zethe | had a typo |
| 20:43.15 | clad|away | MentalPower|AFK: what extras? |
| 20:45.08 | MentalPower|AFK | extra copies |
| 20:46.00 | [Ammo] | now you can have one in your bed and on the toilet as well! |
| 20:46.03 | nevcairiel | yeah its really nice, i was just kinda confused seeing them :D |
| 20:46.56 | clad|away | oh gotcha |
| 20:46.58 | clad|away | i have one at my house |
| 20:47.01 | clad|away | and one at my office |
| 20:47.17 | [Ammo] | that would be my ideal situation as well |
| 20:47.34 | clad|away | i need about another 12 tho |
| 20:47.38 | clad|away | to give away |
| 20:47.38 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 20:47.41 | clad|away | now that they have the ack pages |
| 20:47.46 | clad|away | i might actually order them :P |
| 20:47.52 | nevcairiel | ack pages? |
| 20:48.00 | clad|away | acknowledgement pages |
| 20:48.04 | clad|away | the copies you got have them |
| 20:48.15 | MentalPower|AFK | also, my copies all have the acknowledgments and stuff too |
| 20:48.18 | clad|away | *nod* |
| 20:48.19 | clad|away | they will |
| 20:48.24 | clad|away | your copies were backordered |
| 20:48.26 | [Ammo] | how do I make purl message someone when they come online? |
| 20:48.34 | nevcairiel | ~botmail |
| 20:48.35 | clad|away | [Ammo]: /msg purl help onjoin |
| 20:48.47 | clad|away | if you're talking onjoin messages |
| 20:48.47 | nevcairiel | use botmail or memoserv |
| 20:48.48 | [Ammo] | need to message kaelten my phonenumber but I fear I won't see him online |
| 20:48.49 | clad|away | otherwise, botmail |
| 20:48.52 | clad|away | ah |
| 20:48.53 | clad|away | email it to him |
| 20:49.00 | [Ammo] | kaelten@gmail? |
| 20:49.01 | clad|away | yep |
| 20:49.03 | [Ammo] | kk |
| 20:52.11 | [Ammo] | done |
| 20:53.44 | clad|away | anyone here familiar with the combat log system? |
| 20:53.44 | clad|away | or am i on my own still |
| 20:53.44 | [Ammo] | familiar in what way |
| 20:53.44 | cladhaire | know more than nothing |
| 20:53.44 | [Ammo] | me |
| 20:53.49 | [Ammo] | what do you want to know |
| 20:53.50 | cladhaire | k, any random infoz you have, i'd love to get them on the website |
| 20:53.52 | cladhaire | :P |
| 20:53.56 | [Ammo] | ah |
| 20:53.56 | cladhaire | if you're bored at any time |
| 20:54.01 | cladhaire | cog|work: should I make a /wiki heading |
| 20:54.06 | cladhaire | that we make as editable wiki pages |
| 20:54.07 | [Ammo] | I can point you to a very informative thread on wowace forums |
| 20:54.09 | cladhaire | for these howto/ref stuff? |
| 20:54.12 | cladhaire | [Ammo]: sweet |
| 20:54.12 | [Ammo] | that should get you started at least :) |
| 20:54.20 | cladhaire | that'd be nice |
| 20:54.32 | cladhaire | i still can't figure out what the fuck CombatLog_Object_IsA is supposed to do |
| 20:54.37 | cladhaire | i can get it working with bit.band |
| 20:54.45 | cladhaire | but not using CombatLog_Object_IsA |
| 20:54.46 | [Ammo] | I think everyone uses bit.band |
| 20:54.50 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 20:54.52 | cladhaire | just annoying :P |
| 20:54.56 | cladhaire | its global C API |
| 20:54.58 | nevcairiel | IsA is just a complicated AND |
| 20:55.06 | nevcairiel | it was implemented in lua in eaerlier versions |
| 20:55.10 | cladhaire | and i can't show how to use it right |
| 20:55.10 | cladhaire | and i'd like to be able to |
| 20:55.10 | nevcairiel | you could see what it does |
| 20:55.45 | cladhaire | i tried to find it |
| 20:55.49 | cladhaire | but didn't look too hard |
| 20:56.01 | cladhaire | if you find a link, i'd <3 ya :P |
| 20:56.38 | [Ammo] | cladhaire: also talk to Antiarc and Xinhuan |
| 20:56.49 | cladhaire | yeah i plan to |
| 20:56.51 | [Ammo] | they rewrote huge parts of teh blizzard combatlog addon |
| 20:56.58 | cladhaire | but i'll explode if i try to write the entire reference myself |
| 20:57.07 | cladhaire | i'm just really interested in providing a good reference as to how the _system_ works |
| 20:57.10 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 20:57.12 | cladhaire | something that wowwiki can't and doesn' provide |
| 20:57.18 | cladhaire | their coverage is absolute shit these days |
| 20:57.20 | cladhaire | nothing is covered. |
| 20:57.28 | cladhaire | and the random shit that is, doesn't have any information about it |
| 20:57.32 | cladhaire | like all the unit flags are listed |
| 20:57.37 | cladhaire | but how to use them.. nowhere to be found |
| 20:58.48 | [Ammo] | ah yeah |
| 20:58.59 | [Ammo] | for that I point you to LibGUIDRegistry-1.0 used by Omen |
| 20:59.09 | [Ammo] | its written by Arrowmaster he might be able to help you a ton on the unitflags |
| 20:59.19 | [Ammo] | as for the thread I was seeking: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=11294.0 |
| 20:59.35 | [Ammo] | takes some digging probably |
| 21:00.45 | [Ammo] | but that thread appears to have basically ended up as: http://www.wowwiki.com/COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_Details |
| 21:00.49 | [Ammo] | not much usage info |
| 21:01.12 | [Ammo] | I'll try and write something up on using the unitflags during my lunchbreak tomorrow |
| 21:01.32 | [Ammo] | although it'll be bit.band etc usage and not the IsA etc stuff |
| 21:02.01 | nevcairiel | cladhaire: http://ace.pastey.net/89455 |
| 21:03.25 | cladhaire | okay |
| 21:03.31 | cladhaire | thanks guys |
| 21:03.42 | cladhaire | i think we can get a REALLY solid page written up about this info |
| 21:03.45 | cladhaire | and about the other confusing systems |
| 21:04.36 | [Ammo] | I like the way the guidregistry lib makes combined flags and easy checking for them |
| 21:05.28 | [Ammo] | basically the IsA func, but with a nice clear name in 1 bit.band call |
| 21:06.12 | cladhaire | <3 |
| 21:06.54 | [Ammo] | will write some about it in my luncbreak tomorrow, pretty easy |
| 21:07.03 | nevcairiel | i dealth with Omen/Threat so much, plus my little combatlog thingy, i can probably help some too, if i have the time |
| 21:09.02 | cladhaire | cool |
| 21:09.11 | cladhaire | what do you guys think about the organization on the webpage |
| 21:09.20 | cladhaire | right now we have /docs/api /docs/widget /docs/events |
| 21:09.26 | cladhaire | and /chapters, /forums, etc. |
| 21:09.31 | cladhaire | does a /wiki section make sense |
| 21:09.39 | cladhaire | where people can edit and make pages as they want |
| 21:09.43 | cladhaire | or /docs/ref/combatlog? |
| 21:10.25 | cladhaire | if we do /wiki |
| 21:10.33 | cladhaire | then i can make all those pages editable and its easy for any of us to drop a page in |
| 21:11.36 | [Ammo] | hmm |
| 21:12.13 | [Ammo] | There could be a 'misc' section or 'special' or something under reference |
| 21:12.35 | [Ammo] | technically this combat log info is a highlight of the CLEU event |
| 21:12.38 | [Ammo] | and its parameters |
| 21:12.50 | cladhaire | well i don't want to present it like that |
| 21:12.53 | cladhaire | i want it to be more like a chapter from the book |
| 21:12.56 | cladhaire | ,if that makes sense |
| 21:14.04 | [Ammo] | I understand, but putting it under Chapters is kinda wrong since you wouldn't expect it there |
| 21:14.12 | cladhaire | no, i wouldn't want it there |
| 21:14.17 | cladhaire | thats why i was thinking either /wiki/ |
| 21:14.21 | cladhaire | or /docs/howto. |
| 21:14.23 | cladhaire | or /docs/ref |
| 21:14.29 | cladhaire | right now its at /docs/ref/combatlog |
| 21:15.31 | [Ammo] | it should defeinately be under docs/ref |
| 21:15.38 | cladhaire | okay good, i'll keep it there |
| 21:15.42 | cladhaire | and we can link those sorts of major references |
| 21:15.46 | cladhaire | like the knowledgebase system |
| 21:15.53 | cladhaire | or any other "major game system" that could need a reference |
| 21:15.56 | cladhaire | i.e. secure templates, etc. |
| 21:15.58 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 21:16.17 | [Ammo] | or just /docs/combatlog would do just as well |
| 21:16.26 | [Ammo] | since secure templates is under /docs/secure_tempaltes |
| 21:16.31 | cladhaire | well |
| 21:16.32 | cladhaire | i could move them |
| 21:16.34 | cladhaire | imo |
| 21:16.38 | [Ammo] | true |
| 21:16.52 | cladhaire | probably makes more sense to have the "Reference" stuff under /docs/ref |
| 21:17.11 | [Ammo] | I agree |
| 21:18.16 | cladhaire | coolio |
| 21:18.18 | cladhaire | i'll work on that then |
| 21:18.28 | cladhaire | every time i get bored i'm gonna work on more of one of the pages |
| 21:18.40 | cladhaire | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/ref/combatlog |
| 21:18.42 | cladhaire | does that make sense so far? |
| 21:19.05 | [Ammo] | the sample addon is too complicated |
| 21:19.12 | [Ammo] | for example code |
| 21:19.36 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 21:19.44 | cladhaire | i just copied it down there cause its what i had to do to figure shit out |
| 21:19.54 | [Ammo] | ah ok |
| 21:21.11 | cladhaire | k, i'm gonna go read a bit. |
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