IRC log for #wowi-lounge on 20080404

00:03.31sag_ich_nichtugh
00:03.33Cairennwishes no one would use .rar!
00:03.36sag_ich_nichtthey nerfed arcanite dragonling AGAIN
00:03.48sag_ich_nichtfirst they nerfed him from 75 to 72
00:03.48Josh_BorkeCairenn: 7zip ftw!
00:03.50sag_ich_nichtthat was okay
00:03.54sag_ich_nicht75 was OP as hell
00:03.56Cairennno
00:03.57Josh_BorkeCairenn: though rar is best for super big things you want to split up
00:03.59sag_ich_nichtbut now they nerfed him down to 60
00:04.00sag_ich_nicht-.-
00:04.19Josh_BorkeCairenn: no?  what else can split?
00:04.47MentalPowerJosh_Borke: split is not an issue with WoW mods
00:04.55Josh_BorkeMentalPower: oh, i know
00:04.58CairennI wish mod authors would just use .zip - like it or not, it's still the standard for joe_enduser_001
00:05.07MentalPowerand Cairenn's aversion to anything other than .zip is that their tools, work around .zip
00:05.09Josh_Borkebut cairenn wanted no one to use .rar, she didn't specify for wow ;-)
00:05.21Cairennno I didn't
00:05.23Josh_BorkeCairenn: you should just put something that converts it for you
00:05.28Cairennas it applies for all our sites
00:05.39NightHawkAtWorkmeh, rar can diaf in general, imo. :P
00:05.41Josh_Borkewell, for any mod really
00:05.49Cairennit's not for me Josh_Borke ^^
00:05.53MentalPowerthey don't modify uploads (except for source with .exes which they remove before approval)
00:06.01MentalPower(upon request)
00:06.12Josh_Borkewhat other archiving method allows you to split up the files?
00:06.16Josh_Borkeand don't say tar :-D
00:06.22NightHawkAtWorktar? >.> :P
00:06.33CairennI am referring to mods, I really don't care about the rest of the debate :p
00:06.41NightHawkAtWorkwho the hell needs to split anyway? its not like we're working with 33kbps modems and 1.4mb floppies here
00:06.57Josh_Borkewhat about a wow installation?
00:07.00MentalPower7z allows it
00:07.14Josh_BorkeMentalPower: does it?  like i said, 7zip FTW!
00:07.17Lunessa.zip actually can use its "span" function - which was designed to make the archive splittable over several floppies.
00:07.22Cairennwanders back to the other stuff she was dealing with
00:07.38kergoth.zip's always sucked, you had to insert the last disk, then the first
00:07.52MentalPowerLunessa: but that function is not very well supported, and has issues as kergoth points out
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00:09.09LunessaTrue, I'm just saying it exists.  I don't actually use .rar format compression.  I use .zip pretty much exclusively save where no intervention by me is needed - i.e. application installers.
00:09.15Valaron|WorkIf industry stopped promoting WinZip as the end-all-be-all unarchiver program, it would be much easier with the multiple formats.
00:10.03MentalPowerI support 7zip, since it works with pretty much anything (except .ace files since their .dll sucks)
00:10.24kergoth7zip is awesome, the ui is as good as rar, the  compression is one o fthe better ones i've seen, it's open..
00:10.24ScytheBlade1I support... konqueror under linux
00:10.37MentalPowerand .7z files offer the best compression I've seen so far (I know there are better, but they take too long)
00:11.08LunessaI personally use 7zip too.
00:11.14Valaron|WorkMe too
00:11.42LunessaEspecially since Vista's unarchiving tool takes FOREVER to open ANYTHING
00:11.52MentalPowerheh, tru dat
00:11.53kergothhmm, is there a good dot/hot/etc timer type addon that doesn't use timer bars, but icon+timer like the normal blizz buff display?
00:12.09kergothscratch that, is there a good dot/hot/etc timer type addon period
00:14.34MentalPowerlol
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00:23.09kergoth[Ammo]: getting an error from witchhunt wehn going to the message filter section of the menu
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00:23.11kergoth[Ammo]: [2008/04/03 17:22:20-85-x1]: WitchHunt\WitchHunt.lua:487: GetSpellInfo(): Invalid spell slot
00:23.11kergothWitchHunt\WitchHunt.lua:487: in function <Interface\AddOns\WitchHunt\WitchHunt.lua:482>
00:23.27Lunessakergoth: I'm not fond of much of anything anymore, timer-wise.
00:23.39ScytheBlade1Oh, heh @ inc losing their entire database
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00:24.50kergoththe necb Bela's working on sounded promising, but who knows how far out that is..
00:24.56Cairenndid they actually lose the entire db?
00:24.59ScytheBlade1"When it rains, it pours"
00:25.09kergothsatrina's doing such a timer addon based on satrinabuffframe2, which could be nice
00:25.16kergothbut nothing currently out seems to be worth using :|
00:25.30ScytheBlade1I got that off of your site, Cairenn  ;)
00:25.40ScytheBlade1http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=87605&postcount=15
00:26.12Cairennah - doesn't say they actually lost it completely, will depend on if their backup is okay or not
00:26.31Cairennanyway, yeah, they're having a bad couple days
00:26.39ScytheBlade120:24 < ScytheBlade1> "When it rains, it pours"
00:27.03Cairenn:)
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00:28.20WobWorklike that joke with the lion with a thorn in it's paw
00:28.26WobWorkWhen it pains, it roars.
00:28.31ScytheBlade1lol
00:28.41Cairennlol
00:28.49Arel*grin*
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00:29.42ArelWhy doesn't my lua reference have a bitwise or/and operator? Am I missing something?
00:30.09ScytheBlade1WoW added one in
00:30.12AbsoRayneNERD RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE
00:30.13ScytheBlade1It is not in the stock lua distribution
00:30.17dylanmIt's a non-core library.
00:30.28dylanmBitlib or something. There's a project page with very little documentation.
00:30.54Arelthanks.
00:31.26ArelI guess it wasn't really needed until they revealed the flags in the new event system. Thanks.
00:32.08ScytheBlade1Whee, about to hit phase 3
00:32.57dylanmhttp://luaforge.net/plugins/scmcvs/cvsweb.php/bitlib/README?rev=1.12;cvsroot=bitlib
00:35.54Arelthanks for the link.
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00:44.07kd3ooh, about freaking time
00:44.18kd3@ars: "Judge kills RIAA subpoena: making available not infringement"
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00:47.40kergothwtf, my combatlog window is missing
00:47.42kergothjust poof, gone
00:47.44kergothhrmph
00:48.07Endit hates you!
00:48.37kergothapparently
00:48.38Guillotinedammit, I just lost the game :(
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01:00.13*** mode/#wowi-lounge [+sntcgf #WoWUIDev] by ChanServ
01:01.15*** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> Due to complaints about the channel name not being site-non-specific, we're moving to #WoWUIDev
01:01.33*** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> Due to complaints about the channel name being site-specific, we're moving to #WoWUIDev
01:03.09Cairennpurl, who is your owner
01:03.10purlCairenn: what are you talking about?
01:03.16Cairennpurl who owns you?
01:03.17purlTimRiker does
01:04.39MentalPower~seen TimRiker
01:04.42purltimriker <n=timr@pdpc/supporter/bronze/TimRiker> was last seen on IRC in channel #infobot, 4h 57m 27s ago, saying: '~forkbomb'.
01:04.55MentalPower~forkbomb
01:04.56purlforkbomb is, like, Do not type this into a shell->  :(){ :|:& };:
01:05.03MentalPowerlol
01:05.07NightHawkAtWorkhah
01:05.30Drundia:(){ :|:& };:
01:05.32Cairennnow, I've added +f to this channel, so it should be forwarding everyone automagically
01:05.46Drundiawhat does that mean?
01:05.48Cairennbut doesn't seem to be - may be that it'll happen when you leave and come back, not sure
01:06.00MentalPowerCairenn: yeah leave and come back
01:06.27Cairennwell, I'm not going to leave until the majority have
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01:06.59MentalPowerhmm...
01:07.01MentalPowerwierd
01:07.05MentalPowerno +f
01:07.15MentalPowerperhaps cause I'm idented and +v here
01:07.20ckknightdances
01:07.27MentalPowerlemme confirm that theory
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01:08.06MentalPower|PCnop
01:08.11Cairenngrrrr
01:08.41Kaeltenit needs to be +m
01:08.45Kaelteniirc
01:08.48MentalPoweroh?
01:08.54MentalPowercould try that
01:09.01Nechcknjust perma-boot everyone, they'll get the idea  =)
01:09.04Kaeltenwell it'll stop us from talking in here
01:09.08ckknightNechckn: bad idea
01:09.11Cairennlol
01:09.12MentalPowerKaelten: not us
01:09.15Kaeltenya
01:09.16Kaeltenwe're special
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01:09.22Cairenn@kael's suggestion
01:09.24Nechcknoh come now... that's fun ckknight
01:09.31Nechcknadds drama!
01:09.40ckknightdrama is not a good thing
01:09.42ckknightI would know
01:09.44MentalPowerlol
01:09.49ckknightlooks out the window into the sunset
01:09.49Nechcknno comment
01:09.54MentalPoweris *not* going there
01:10.37Drundiamaybe talk to chanserv a bit and make it kick everyone telling them to go to #wowuidev
01:10.52ScytheBlade1And phase 3 is go
01:10.55dylanmWait what's going on?
01:11.00KirkburnMove move move!
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01:11.11KirkburnWe're off to see the wizard
01:11.19dylanmOhshi
01:11.32dylanmFreenode didn't like?
01:11.45NechcknSorry... we have to strip and wax the floors.  Please move along to the WoWUIDev exhibit.
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01:12.54*** mode/#wowi-lounge [-P] by nalioth
01:14.31kd3make the chan +i too, then +f will work
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01:14.39kd3http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml
01:15.10MentalPowerkd3: "the man" (nalioth) is here :)
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01:15.23kd3ah. /tabs back out to the wiki
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01:15.44MentalPowerprays that nalioth is not a she, or else he'll have to bury his head in the sand or something
01:16.04WobWor1wait what?
01:16.11WobWor1wowuidev?
01:16.14WobWor1><
01:16.24MentalPoweryes
01:16.30NightHawkAtWorkif you stayed connected for more than thirty seconds, you might have noticed that. :P
01:16.32MentalPoweroh WobWor1, get a better connection :)
01:16.41WobWor1That means we can't bitch about other dev sites?
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01:16.46NightHawkAtWorkwith that said, I'm out
01:16.55MentalPower|PCCairenn: still nope
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01:17.00WobWor1MentalPower: yeah, I'm bitching at my netadmin
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01:17.08GuillotineWobwork: sure we can
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01:17.11CairennI dunno, I'm trying to figure it out
01:17.40batrickhai friends
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01:19.40Josh_Borkehm, 9:18, i should go home
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01:20.49batrickim so confused
01:20.54WobWor1pft, I really don't see why there should be complaints about the channel name
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01:21.37Cairennwell, I got sick of the complaints, so
01:21.38KirkburnIf it makes more people use it, it's all for the better, Wobin :P
01:21.46Drundiai think some people want channel name to be their site related
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01:25.05KirkburnI think the +i should do it :)
01:25.13Cairennhope so
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01:25.44Kirkburnooh, let's see what happens to Legorol (assuming he comes back)
01:26.25Cairennworked for MentalPower
01:26.33KirkburnHeh, so now this channel will be all about who can stay connected the longest :P
01:26.38MentalPowerlol
01:26.47WobWor1damn, I'm out =P
01:26.54KirkburnQuick, someone cause a blackout!
01:27.27KirkburnAnd I wanted to restart my PC >_<
01:29.18GuillotineI think we should have a prize for the last person to leave the channel
01:29.41WobWor1how do we know who wins?
01:29.47Dumanoh, boo
01:29.49Guillotineyou can still /whois them
01:29.51DumanI have to leave? :(
01:29.54Dumanheh
01:29.56WobWor1and one of the ops can just kick everyone but them
01:29.59WobWor1so it's cheating =P
01:30.07Kirkburnlol
01:30.25GuillotineFine. Then lets just skip the contest and give me the prize
01:30.36GuillotineI vote we all chip in for an xbox 360
01:30.38WobWor1~noprize Guillotine
01:30.45Guillotineexcept me of course, since I won anyway
01:30.49WobWor1~award Guillotine
01:30.56WobWor1pft
01:31.01WobWor1~win Guillotine
01:31.02purlCongratulations, Guillotine! You have won the time-life collection of vintage AOL cd's, a set of 120!
01:31.08Duman~fail
01:31.15Dumanaww, it won't fail me? :)
01:31.20WobWor1~fail Duman fail
01:31.21purlYou suck at everything in life, Duman fail. I hate you because you fail.
01:31.29Dumanheh
01:37.14KirkburnWobWor1, you have the dubious honor of being the last green text on this screen :P
01:38.05KirkburnNever again shall the green text walk upon this window
01:38.40AbsoRaynehttp://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd302/White_widow_buds/WoWScrnShot_093007_204859.jpg MY FUCKING EYES AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH
01:38.56KirkburnThey should use ClearFont
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