| 00:00.27 | Nechckn | and the place had well over a hundred varieties of all sorts of goodies |
| 00:00.38 | Nechckn | but, anywhoo... |
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| 00:02.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | i solo'd up to luci in mc the other day :x |
| 00:02.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | took forever and a day |
| 00:02.27 | Lopeppeppy | Sick, but fun. |
| 00:02.54 | batrick | what class are you Mr_Rabies2 |
| 00:03.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | feral druid |
| 00:03.18 | batrick | ah |
| 00:03.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | they hit me for far less than the amount that imp lotp heals me for |
| 00:04.29 | NightHawkAtWork | solo aq40 trash and i'll be more impresed :P |
| 00:04.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i solod skeram on a level 1 shaman |
| 00:04.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | twin emps on a level 30 warlock |
| 00:09.14 | bleeter | wonders how many more power outages he'll have this morn |
| 00:09.41 | bleeter | Mr_Rabies2: finally got my feral to 70 :D |
| 00:09.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | grats |
| 00:15.21 | Corrodias | amazing how a guild can suddenly go from finally killing leo once or twice to not raiding at all |
| 00:15.46 | Lunessa | burn out. it happens. It's a killer. |
| 00:15.53 | Corrodias | yeah, of too many people at once, it seems |
| 00:16.54 | Corrodias | then people have to leave if they want to keep raiding, so that thins the pool further |
| 00:17.04 | NightHawkAtWork | a while back we went from killing 2-3 bosses in BT and MH to having to spend a few weeks recruiting and going back to kill vashj/kael, becaus of that. :\ |
| 00:17.47 | kamdis | My guild on Uther went from TK progress to running people 5th alts through Kara in about 3 weeks, somehow. |
| 00:17.54 | kamdis | depressing. |
| 00:17.59 | AbsoRayne | http://www.freewebs.com/absorayne/WoWScrnShot%5F040208%5F181000.png Kamdis |
| 00:18.13 | AbsoRayne | What do you think of the Party frames? |
| 00:18.27 | Corrodias | ow. |
| 00:18.39 | Corrodias | (not "ow, frames", "ow, unprogress") |
| 00:18.52 | AbsoRayne | Corrodias: I know, I said 'ouch' irl. :< |
| 00:19.00 | Corrodias | taht's an interesting spot for them |
| 00:19.04 | Corrodias | and i can't type again |
| 00:19.19 | kamdis | I like the style and the color by class dots. there's something about the blue that I don't like with your red though. |
| 00:19.52 | kamdis | it doesn't clash, but it's just ... i don't know. "meh"? |
| 00:19.54 | AbsoRayne | kamdis: Im trying to figure out the Blue for the Mana as well, I probably just need to lighten it a bit |
| 00:20.00 | kamdis | yeah |
| 00:20.24 | Nechckn | it's just very "dull" with that shade of red - and the blue for that matter |
| 00:20.38 | Nechckn | ha... woops.. as you both just said! |
| 00:20.48 | AbsoRayne | GO GO COLOR WHEEL |
| 00:20.56 | AbsoRayne | spins it like a retard |
| 00:21.12 | kamdis | the red is Rayne's signature color so I'm guessing that's not going to change. |
| 00:21.25 | AbsoRayne | Nope :P |
| 00:21.58 | Nechckn | I just mean the 2 together =) |
| 00:22.01 | kamdis | are you sticking with Grid or going back to pitbull raid frames? |
| 00:22.18 | Nechckn | should "pep it up" with a lightening of da bleu |
| 00:22.38 | AbsoRayne | I went back to PitBull, the frames look how they do now in http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/SinOfDreams/WoWScrnShot_040108_233825.jpg |
| 00:23.28 | Corrodias | is it just me, or is walljumping now impossible, or nearly? |
| 00:23.33 | AbsoRayne | Ill go back to Grid once I figure out WHY its blacking out people that are OOR rather than fading them. |
| 00:23.39 | AbsoRayne | Corrodias: You cant anymore. :/ |
| 00:23.53 | Corrodias | took them long enough |
| 00:24.07 | AbsoRayne | It sucks, I miss sitting on top of the Military Ward building in IF. :/ |
| 00:24.11 | AbsoRayne | I used to do that all the time |
| 00:24.18 | AbsoRayne | is Alliance, btw |
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| 00:25.10 | AbsoRayne | ok, going to the store, be back in 10-15 |
| 00:25.15 | Nechckn | that version is a bit easier on the eyes- it's cool that it's all in one spot - not looking up, left, right etc |
| 00:25.45 | Nechckn | esp for raiding |
| 00:27.24 | Lunessa | "Weakling!!! Real men [and women] play only Holy Priests! ;-)" ~Kamdis |
| 00:28.05 | Lopeppeppy | I'm leveling my holy priest a bit right now.... |
| 00:28.19 | |Jelly|Laptop | i miss disc |
| 00:28.24 | bleeter | Corrodias: there's some QQ in CSF about quitting the game 'coz they can't stand on the SW statue anymore, nor up with the Auctioneers |
| 00:28.47 | Lopeppeppy | Awwww. |
| 00:30.00 | Hirsute | What! I can't stand on the SW statue or up with the Auctioneers anymore? That's it |
| 00:30.36 | bleeter | Hirsute: can I have your stuff? |
| 00:31.05 | Hirsute | I'm a lvl 1 gnome warlock... does that interest you? |
| 00:31.08 | Lunessa | send me ur goldz plz, k thax |
| 00:31.18 | bleeter | the thread I'm referring to http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5720271996&sid=1 |
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| 00:32.00 | bleeter | Hirsute: someone rolled a lvl 1 for me to ahve their stuff once, needless to say the repair bill I incurred from my travels to meet them to get their stuff to vendor, cost more than their stuff was worth =)) |
| 00:32.00 | [sync] | halloe |
| 00:32.13 | [sync] | 1st, whoever made the WowInterface update thing, is a fkn legend. |
| 00:32.26 | [sync] | second. |
| 00:32.30 | Hirsute | bleeter: heh |
| 00:32.31 | [sync] | could i get some help? |
| 00:32.56 | kamdis | ~asktoask |
| 00:32.56 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 00:33.05 | [sync] | ok. |
| 00:33.06 | [sync] | Uhh |
| 00:33.08 | kamdis | ;-) |
| 00:33.17 | [sync] | i cant see my buffs on my pet/party, unless i hover my mouse over |
| 00:33.24 | [sync] | is there a way to remove this? |
| 00:33.43 | kamdis | are you using a unit frame mod? |
| 00:33.59 | kamdis | I haven't used the Blizzard party frames in so long... |
| 00:34.29 | [sync] | ? |
| 00:34.32 | [sync] | nope i dont think so |
| 00:34.55 | [sync] | all my portaits seem default |
| 00:35.07 | [sync] | ok |
| 00:35.09 | [sync] | updated: |
| 00:35.12 | [sync] | i can see the DEBUFFS |
| 00:35.14 | Lunessa | Then you will need an AddOn. The default UnitFrames only show buffs on mouseover. |
| 00:35.16 | [sync] | but not the BUFFS, like spirit links |
| 00:35.29 | [sync] | Spirit Bond* (Hunter Talent) |
| 00:35.40 | kamdis | Right-o, Lunessa's got it. |
| 00:35.59 | [sync] | Ok |
| 00:36.02 | [sync] | could you suggest one |
| 00:36.27 | kamdis | Ct PartyBuffs http://www.ctmod.net/downloads/ |
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| 00:36.43 | [sync] | thanks |
| 00:36.48 | kamdis | if you want the most simple way, without changing anything else, that is |
| 00:36.51 | kamdis | :) |
| 00:37.18 | [sync] | thanks |
| 00:37.28 | kamdis | You're most welcome. |
| 00:41.48 | Lunessa | Hah... gimme mah bukkit |
| 00:44.01 | [sync] | you guys playing wow? |
| 00:45.05 | |Jelly|Laptop | no |
| 00:45.53 | Lopeppeppy | *hums* |
| 00:49.11 | NightHawkAtWork | I'm playing wow in my mind, does that count? |
| 00:49.40 | Lopeppeppy | I'm minding my playing in wow... |
| 00:50.45 | |Jelly|Laptop | I'm playing Lord of the Rings |
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| 00:54.05 | AbsoRayne | mmmm pizza sub |
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| 00:54.41 | kamdis | "I'm not going to go troubleshoot the problem myself to the dev when I SHOULD be able to get answers from this forum. That is, after all, why they're here." /cry |
| 00:55.01 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah. Right. |
| 00:55.32 | AbsoRayne | kamdis: Ignorance is amazing |
| 00:55.40 | kamdis | Ain't that the truth |
| 00:55.54 | Lunessa | ... wtf ? Where is that madness? |
| 00:56.13 | kamdis | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5720382124&sid=1 |
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| 00:58.14 | AbsoRayne | As soon as I saw X-Perl, I closed the window |
| 00:58.20 | kamdis | Wow, Saeto beat down in the Post Your UI thread. |
| 00:58.22 | Lunessa | That isn't Sparta. That's madness. |
| 00:58.27 | kamdis | He's on a rampage. |
| 00:58.39 | AbsoRayne | He is right though |
| 00:58.44 | kamdis | yes he is |
| 00:58.47 | AbsoRayne | And I think I started the C&C thing. :/ |
| 00:58.55 | kamdis | Yes, you did. |
| 00:58.57 | kamdis | :P |
| 00:59.21 | ScytheBlade1 | kamdis: hehe, I just replied. |
| 00:59.30 | ScytheBlade1 | I wonder if that'll agitate him at all. |
| 00:59.50 | AbsoRayne | :/ |
| 01:00.25 | kamdis | I hope so, ScytheBlade1 |
| 01:00.50 | kamdis | It's okay Rayne, we wont call you out. We'll blame Nitelily instead. |
| 01:01.08 | AbsoRayne | Considering I just admitted to it, I think I dug my own hole on that one. |
| 01:01.29 | AbsoRayne | At least the 'Make Me Hate My UI' trend died fast. |
| 01:02.02 | kamdis | Not fast enough! ;-) |
| 01:02.14 | kamdis | Sb: He replied to me, but must have not seen yours. |
| 01:02.33 | kamdis | he's now beyond all hope, imo. |
| 01:02.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, I saw. Refreshing still |
| 01:03.11 | kamdis | Rayne, you are so funny. |
| 01:03.50 | AbsoRayne | kamdis: :P |
| 01:04.04 | AbsoRayne | I like to enlighten an un-needed overly drama infused situation |
| 01:04.27 | kamdis | Well it calmed Seito the fuck down, so that's good. |
| 01:04.40 | kamdis | though his rants are always entertaining. |
| 01:05.51 | Lunessa | oh man... people pissing in each other's oatmeal. Always fun to watch. |
| 01:06.19 | AbsoRayne | Great now hes got me listening to this fucking song. |
| 01:06.26 | Lunessa | Interface isn't about originality. It's about USABILITY. |
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| 01:07.29 | kamdis | There is no more originality in WoW ui because it's all been done. There are only so many functional ways to present the information given/needed. |
| 01:07.37 | kamdis | People need to just get over being "original" |
| 01:07.44 | AbsoRayne | kamdis: ty |
| 01:08.19 | kamdis | night all! |
| 01:08.22 | AbsoRayne | night |
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| 01:09.18 | Lunessa | Exactly Kamdis - I mean FFS how many ways are there really to layout the same pieces. :P |
| 01:11.17 | AbsoRayne | I remember when I joked about Horizontal Healthbars, now my raid frames are made of them. |
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| 01:12.35 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:12.53 | art3mis | kamdis, HEY im original ;P |
| 01:14.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: curse you and your soothing green text in an otherwise potentially volatile thread |
| 01:14.05 | ScytheBlade1 | So close :( |
| 01:14.40 | art3mis | Lunessa: thats why i was pushing for profiler support, that way everyone can upload ONLY the them files, and quit making compilations that are 20-25mb of the same shit over and over again because they changed the art ;P |
| 01:15.22 | art3mis | if youcould one click a swap all "themeable" aspects including art and lauyout think how much more enjoyable things would be ;P |
| 01:15.54 | art3mis | s/pushing/pestering |
| 01:16.56 | Lunessa | It just strikes me as a waste of considerable energy to fight over who "copied" whom and what makes an "original" layout. I mean... FFS. really. |
| 01:18.15 | AbsoRayne | Im flattered if people copy me, but if they totally butcher my layout...yeah then I could care less. |
| 01:18.34 | Lopeppeppy | I use a compilation, I'm soooooo unoriginal. |
| 01:20.02 | Lunessa | Oh yeah. And people calling each other no-talent hacks? I get enough of that crap elsewhere - I might like an element or a placement I see somewhere and use it because it appeals to me, or makes something a little better than an idea I was using before. But to imply that originality is the only indication of talent? Pshaw. |
| 01:20.15 | AbsoRayne | Lopeppeppy: We still love you |
| 01:21.44 | Lunessa | I like some of your layouts Rayne, but I'd never use them. They don't do what I need and you like that "buffs as bars" idiom that I can't stand. It doesn't mean your ideas or layouts suck. It juts means they're not for me. *shrug* Elloria and Slitherskin have been fluffing each other for months, but that doesn't mean they don't have good stuff too. |
| 01:22.01 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: biblically. :P |
| 01:27.16 | AbsoRayne | Lunessa: Yeah...the self pampering with thems getting a little old. |
| 01:27.19 | art3mis | lunessa runs HKUI |
| 01:27.32 | Lunessa | Lies. I run the default. |
| 01:27.47 | art3mis | uh huh, it's okay big boy you dont have to lie anymore |
| 01:28.25 | Lunessa | Hah... How much you want to bet "Giggas" means "concatenate" instead of "concentrate" |
| 01:29.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh. I just posted. |
| 01:30.07 | AbsoRayne | Fuck...Ishtara is going to piss off Saeto and another Inc Wall of Text. :/ |
| 01:30.35 | Lunessa | ... /popcorn |
| 01:30.40 | AbsoRayne | Lunessa: Also, I was contemplating trying something other than EBB |
| 01:30.55 | AbsoRayne | Since you brought that up |
| 01:31.13 | sag_ich_nicht | okay |
| 01:31.17 | sag_ich_nicht | female draenei are NOT the most sexy avatars. |
| 01:31.18 | sag_ich_nicht | female draenei with engineering goggles are. |
| 01:31.35 | AbsoRayne | sag_ich_nicht: <3 my Draen with goggles |
| 01:32.23 | Lunessa | Rayne - Lately I've been stripping out lots of timers and bars and just learning to live with the duration timers and OmniCC - I dislike "buffs as timer bars" because they distract me from what I need to be paying attention to, and they don't convey additional useful information. |
| 01:33.12 | Lunessa | Rayne - that's personal opinion. Not fact. |
| 01:33.24 | AbsoRayne | Lunessa: I can agree with you, except HoTCandy and ClassTimer have really uped my healing and tanking efficiency |
| 01:33.59 | Lunessa | Yeah, I use a timer for my Totems and I use ClassTimer. But I'm trying to wean myself. |
| 01:34.18 | Lunessa | Especially since Pitbull supports the new totem functions. |
| 01:35.24 | Lunessa | I noticed that my interface was becoming a mass of timer bars, and I wasn't really gaining anything from them anymore. |
| 01:37.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Ohh he replied to me |
| 01:37.17 | ScytheBlade1 | cackles |
| 01:39.33 | Lopeppeppy | ../dance party |
| 01:40.02 | ScytheBlade1 | And replied! |
| 01:40.37 | dylanm | Wha |
| 01:44.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Apparently UI is the new customer support |
| 01:44.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Or so I'm told |
| 01:45.46 | Lopeppeppy | *laugh* |
| 01:46.05 | Corrodias | i dunno, i'm just... not really feelin' it |
| 01:46.22 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5720382124&sid=1&pageNo=2#22 |
| 01:46.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah me either |
| 01:48.06 | Corrodias | i don't know what to do for fun tonight |
| 01:48.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Can always troll the forums |
| 01:48.39 | ScytheBlade1 | sits back; refreshes |
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| 01:51.37 | bleeter | I think my solution to the issue is reasonable |
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| 01:51.47 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter: that's you? ahahahaha |
| 01:52.01 | bleeter | it'll get him off the forums for a couple of days, at least |
| 01:52.09 | Jinivus | hmmmz |
| 01:52.23 | bleeter | allo Jinivus |
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| 01:52.33 | Jinivus | When i call GetWorldStateUIInfo(1, text) in AV it returns null, shouldnt it return the score? |
| 01:52.40 | Lopeppeppy | .../dance party |
| 01:52.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: you're too nice, you know that? |
| 01:53.02 | Lopeppeppy | I do, ScytheBlade1. I do. Customer Service Barbie, that's me. |
| 01:53.12 | ScytheBlade1 | That's not a /bad/ thing in particular, but, yeah :( |
| 01:53.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Haha |
| 01:53.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: needs a new topic, see: Lopeppeppy's last line |
| 01:54.33 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.4.x ToC: 20400 | WoW programming book http://tinyurl.com/2gdel9 | "Customer Service Barbie, that's me." - Lopeppeppy |
| 01:54.37 | Cairenn | indeed |
| 01:54.46 | Jinivus | Anyone know a way to return the Alliances score in AV? |
| 01:55.36 | Nechckn | According to all the QQers, you could hard code a 0 |
| 01:55.38 | dylanm | message(0) |
| 01:55.49 | Nechckn | Ha! exactly |
| 01:56.27 | bleeter | ang on, i thought it was horde who always lost!!??!! |
| 01:56.30 | Jinivus | lol |
| 01:56.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Jinivus: http://wowwiki.com/API_GetWorldStateUIInfo that page will be of use to you |
| 01:56.35 | bleeter | must be reading the wrong QQ thread |
| 01:56.39 | Jinivus | tried |
| 01:56.46 | Jinivus | when i call it its always nil |
| 01:56.58 | ScytheBlade1 | It has multiple returns |
| 01:57.07 | Jinivus | GetWorldStateUIInfo(1, text) |
| 01:57.09 | Nechckn | I swear bleeter... it all depends on the server and tod |
| 01:57.22 | bleeter | Nechckn: totally |
| 01:57.42 | Nechckn | personally, I play both sides and I honestly think it's even but, what do I know |
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| 01:58.02 | bleeter | and when they change the encounter a little, from my experience those who used to win have their 'strategy' messed up, so those who usually lose are at an advantage 'coz they have no strategy to unlearn |
| 01:58.10 | bleeter | thus they learn a winning strategy quicker |
| 01:58.32 | Nechckn | lol no strategy to unlearn =) |
| 01:58.36 | bleeter | on my battlegroup, after a few weeks eventually it swung back |
| 01:58.37 | sag_ich_nicht | 1/0 |
| 01:58.57 | cogwheel | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNcOlcTwnwg |
| 01:58.57 | Jinivus | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(GetWorldStateUIInfo(1, text)) Should return the score in a message box? |
| 01:58.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Jinivus: I'd help more, but I'm about to raid. Do you have DevTools? |
| 01:59.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh, you don't. I can tell. |
| 01:59.14 | ScytheBlade1 | ~devtools |
| 01:59.15 | purl | Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet? |
| 01:59.26 | Jinivus | cheers |
| 01:59.27 | Jinivus | thanks |
| 01:59.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Install that addon, join a battleground, and then type "/dump GetWorldStateUIInfo(1)" |
| 01:59.41 | Jinivus | ty |
| 01:59.42 | ScytheBlade1 | It'll print out all of the returns that GetWorldUIInfo has |
| 02:00.10 | Lunessa | Wow... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5720382124&postId=57196576257&sid=1#30 |
| 02:00.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Also, according to the wiki, it only takes one paramater, and you are passing two |
| 02:00.52 | dylanm | That thread is mind-boggling. |
| 02:03.02 | bleeter | hey, addon idea. has anyone seen something like it? when mailing stuff, if the recipient isn't in your guild or on your friends' list, it issues an extra warning indicating as much? |
| 02:03.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: well said |
| 02:03.26 | bleeter | indeed, 3 x /cheer for Lunessa |
| 02:04.29 | Nechckn | Lunessa step away from the harshenator =) |
| 02:04.34 | Nechckn | nicely put |
| 02:05.02 | Lunessa | Haha! Lunessa is teh cast iron biznatch. |
| 02:07.17 | Lopeppeppy | Yes you are. *hug* |
| 02:07.26 | Lunessa | <3 Lopeppeppy |
| 02:07.40 | AbsoRayne | Yeah, im going to try Buffalo and see if I like it |
| 02:07.46 | AbsoRayne | It would probably fit this UI well... |
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| 02:08.25 | AbsoRayne | Buffalo 2 has support from SharedMedia, right? |
| 02:08.28 | Lunessa | bleeter: I haven't seen an AddOn like that. |
| 02:08.42 | Lunessa | AbsoRayne: Yeah. And CyCircled. |
| 02:08.58 | AbsoRayne | Awesome |
| 02:09.50 | bleeter | Lunessa: yeah, was merely a though. I might suggest it to Cide next time he's about. It's the kinda thing that a more common mail addon would probably help with. |
| 02:09.54 | bleeter | *thought |
| 02:10.33 | bleeter | as Blizz can't fix mistyped mail recipients, and well sometimes if yer busy you don't always double check the recipients name, etc. etc. ;) |
| 02:10.36 | Lunessa | Rayne - wait.. Buffalo2 doesn't support CyCircled... My mistake. |
| 02:11.05 | Lunessa | bleeter: Yeah, I sent someone a lot of ore once with a c&p error. |
| 02:11.05 | AbsoRayne | No problem. :) |
| 02:12.09 | bleeter | Lunessa: I did it the other week with a stack of primal fires :/ |
| 02:12.18 | Lunessa | Ouch. |
| 02:12.41 | bleeter | got another five stacks on hand, but still.. as you say... ouch |
| 02:13.23 | bleeter | hmm, totally different question now.... |
| 02:13.31 | Lunessa | Heh, I thought I was bad for keeping 5 of every type of primal in stock. |
| 02:14.00 | bleeter | guildies are getting married, we're on an RP server. would it be wrong of me to roll a hordie and invite some of them to the ceremony in SW Cath as my Ally present to my guildies? |
| 02:14.43 | bleeter | it's a moral/ethical question |
| 02:14.53 | Cairenn | giggas==reported |
| 02:16.02 | Lunessa | wow.... did it get pulled? |
| 02:16.12 | Lunessa | Nah, found it. |
| 02:16.32 | Jinivus | How can i get a specific return of a function that gives multiple |
| 02:16.57 | Cairenn | not, just saying that I reported him |
| 02:17.02 | Cairenn | errr, no* |
| 02:18.08 | dylanm | Jinivus: select(3, returnsMultipleValues()) |
| 02:18.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Jinivus: _, _, _, var = Function() |
| 02:18.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Or that |
| 02:19.48 | Atriace | dylanm: is select() more cpu overhead than a simple _, var = function()? |
| 02:20.04 | Jinivus | tyvm |
| 02:20.10 | dylanm | Oh hell I don't know. |
| 02:20.21 | dylanm | I do whichever makes the code look nicer in a given situation. |
| 02:20.55 | dylanm | Note that select() now gives you the argument in the position you specify as well as the ones after that, which can be nice sometimes. |
| 02:21.04 | dylanm | Otherwise you disregard it. Whatevs. |
| 02:21.35 | dylanm | Make sure that if you do the _ thing that _ is somehow local. |
| 02:21.46 | dylanm | It's not a magic name. |
| 02:28.44 | Atriace | my eye is local |
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| 02:28.57 | Atriace | er, I mean... |
| 02:29.21 | Lunessa | that's what /she/said? |
| 02:29.33 | Atriace | pushes the happy juice away |
| 02:31.25 | batrick | dylanm: select has always done that |
| 02:32.41 | dylanm | Yeah yeah. |
| 02:33.31 | AbsoRayne | Oh god, my raid display is so CLEAN |
| 02:34.11 | dylanm | There was a version defined in the PIL that I think a lot of people reference. |
| 02:34.13 | Atriace | screenshot or it didn't happen |
| 02:34.17 | dylanm | And that one just returned the argument. |
| 02:34.18 | AbsoRayne | one moment |
| 02:34.34 | dylanm | It's only part of the core in 5.1 if I remember correctly and it has this behavior. |
| 02:45.43 | AbsoRayne | http://i30.tinypic.com/166ynf7.png Sorry, took a little longer, early pull |
| 02:46.08 | AbsoRayne | Silly Hunter went up to MD, got a little too close |
| 02:46.49 | Atriace | It's nice to see someone implement vertical bars. :) |
| 02:47.06 | Atriace | Do you ever show the raid member's name? (maybe on mouseover) |
| 02:47.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: gotta say, everyone on the same omen revision, this is smooth. /applaud |
| 02:47.57 | AbsoRayne | Atriace: Yes, Mouseover Tooltip. :) |
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| 02:49.37 | Hirsute | Wait, back to the select(#,returnsMultiValue())... so if I did select(1,GetChatWindowInfo(2)), it'd give me "Combat Log"? |
| 02:49.52 | Lunessa | Rayne - Looks nice. |
| 02:50.03 | batrick | select(1, func()) is the same as func() |
| 02:50.15 | batrick | with more overhead |
| 02:50.16 | AbsoRayne | SEE |
| 02:50.21 | AbsoRayne | THIS IS NOT BAD FOR A REWORK OF MY UI |
| 02:50.22 | AbsoRayne | http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot040208203544nl8.jpg |
| 02:50.29 | AbsoRayne | THATS GOOD, SAVE THE CHAT WINDOW |
| 02:50.43 | Hirsute | Even if func() returns 8 or 9 values? |
| 02:50.55 | dylanm | select just moves you down the line |
| 02:50.58 | batrick | --> function a() return 1, "a", 3 end return select(1, a()) |
| 02:50.58 | batbot | batrick: > 1, a, 3 |
| 02:51.01 | batrick | --> a() |
| 02:51.01 | batbot | batrick: > 1, a, 3 |
| 02:51.07 | batrick | --> select(2, a()) |
| 02:51.07 | batbot | batrick: > a, 3 |
| 02:51.13 | Lunessa | I think it looks better with Buffalo instead of Elks. |
| 02:51.13 | batrick | i hope that clears it up :P |
| 02:51.17 | Hirsute | Aaah, okay |
| 02:51.28 | dylanm | If you just want the first one just do assignment and it'll discard the rest. |
| 02:52.21 | Hirsute | so name = GetChatWindowInfo(2) will just store the first return, and discard the rest, without kicking any errors at me? |
| 02:52.28 | batrick | right |
| 02:52.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 02:52.32 | Hirsute | Nice |
| 02:53.00 | Hirsute | I'm used to var = returnsMulti() giving me an array... |
| 02:53.14 | Hirsute | from other scripting languages, fairly new to lua |
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| 02:58.37 | Cairenn | gives AbsoRayne a new [caps lock] key |
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| 03:01.52 | Lunessa | Cairenn Is that anything like my [Broken Caps Lock] key - only better? |
| 03:02.46 | Cairenn|afk | yeah, pretty much |
| 03:04.24 | Lunessa | omg - so many of you on FaceCrack. |
| 03:04.54 | Lopeppeppy | OMG! |
| 03:05.02 | Cairenn|afk | got sucked in too =/ |
| 03:05.16 | Lopeppeppy | I did that. <.< |
| 03:05.37 | Lunessa | I just pulled up the "People You May Know" - I'm all "6 Degrees of Kevin Bacon" right about now... |
| 03:05.48 | Lopeppeppy | *hug* |
| 03:06.19 | Lunessa | It's funny how it keeps pulling up Blizzard folks... even though I only really "know" one. |
| 03:06.23 | AbsoRayne | wiggles |
| 03:06.53 | Cairenn|afk | friends of friends |
| 03:06.59 | Lopeppeppy | Target of Target! |
| 03:07.06 | Cairenn|afk | quite |
| 03:07.10 | Lunessa | And I'm sure I would recognize more of these people by nick or character name than real name. |
| 03:07.13 | Lopeppeppy | takes aim at Lunessa! |
| 03:07.24 | Lopeppeppy | That's why I put my character on my profile. |
| 03:07.29 | Cairenn|afk | ditto |
| 03:07.47 | Cairenn|afk | I even explained what my name means! |
| 03:07.48 | Lunessa | That's why when I add someone from here, I list my nick/character |
| 03:07.57 | Lunessa | I saw. I was impressed. |
| 03:08.19 | dylanm | I'm just too embarrassed to put that information in there, to be honest :-/ |
| 03:08.25 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh, explanations! |
| 03:09.24 | Lunessa | I added the "I Play WoW" application to my profile.... /shame |
| 03:09.46 | Cairenn|afk | haven't seen that one yet |
| 03:09.53 | Lopeppeppy | I added something similar to list my characters, at least. |
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| 03:10.29 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o Iriel] by ChanServ |
| 03:10.33 | Lunessa | But... I'm confused. Why does it list all these pretty girls in England and Norway? |
| 03:10.37 | Cairenn|afk | evening Iriel |
| 03:10.43 | Lunessa | Not that I'm complaining... just confused. |
| 03:10.59 | Lopeppeppy | Pretty girls are awesome, don't complain! *laugh* |
| 03:11.26 | Iriel | evening |
| 03:12.04 | Lunessa | My only complaint about pretty girls is I don't know enough of them (one can never know /enough/ of them). |
| 03:12.28 | Lunessa | And I'm pretty sure Cairenn|afk would kill me for friending her daughter. *wink* |
| 03:12.38 | Cairenn|afk | heh |
| 03:12.59 | Lopeppeppy | Do not go to the dark side, Lunessa! |
| 03:13.07 | Lunessa | But they have cake. |
| 03:13.17 | Lopeppeppy | Cake = lie, duh. |
| 03:13.45 | Keias | Pie is better anyhow |
| 03:13.57 | Lunessa | I am the Dark Side. |
| 03:14.24 | kd3 | wtf @ digg |
| 03:14.31 | kd3 | "WoW: 31 Mage attracts 17 Warrior. Only those are their ages." |
| 03:15.20 | Lunessa | linkz0r? |
| 03:16.07 | kd3 | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/07/03/woman_arrested_for_wow_teen_tryst/ |
| 03:17.58 | Lunessa | Haha. I thought I saw something about that last year, I just didn't see it all [linked] up. |
| 03:20.39 | Cairenn|afk | A heads-up to UIC users. UICentral, as created by site member Amthea, has been pulled from the site as it has come to light that there was a copyright infringment inside the application code. An unlicensed key was utilised to create a part of the application, and so to act responsibly, and protect the party invovled, we have pulled the file from the website. |
| 03:20.39 | Cairenn|afk | http://wowui.worldofwar.net/?p=news&n=982 |
| 03:21.55 | Cairenn|afk | poofs for a while |
| 03:22.06 | WobWork | http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/04/02/australia.toads.ap/index.html |
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| 03:22.21 | WobWork | ~o/ Oh whacking day... oh whacking day.... /o~ |
| 03:22.31 | Lopeppeppy | ..... *giggle* |
| 03:22.46 | Iriel | How on earth do you manage to violate someones license making a java app? |
| 03:23.05 | kd3 | bah at my ISP's DNS servers breaking |
| 03:23.06 | Iriel | Or is the java one the replacement? |
| 03:23.18 | kd3 | 500-1k ms response times for lookups |
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| 03:28.20 | sag_ich_nicht | kd3 openDNS lol |
| 03:31.40 | Lunessa | Time for me to go. See you all tomorrow. |
| 03:31.48 | batrick | bye |
| 03:31.52 | AbsoRayne | Lunessa: later |
| 03:33.55 | WobWork | hehe |
| 03:34.03 | WobWork | "Anyways, next time she sets foot in the US (if ever) she should spec frost, heaps more survivable and she just may escape, ice barrier, frost nova, blink, run, ice block, wait, blink, frost nova, and she should be about back on the plane waving. her 17/31 arcane fire obviously isn't strong enough to tackle the US mobs (probably elite) they seem to excel at casting shadow word pain everywhere :P" |
| 03:34.47 | cogwheel | what rep do you need to transport to CoT? |
| 03:34.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Whee |
| 03:35.04 | ScytheBlade1 | http://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/ |
| 03:35.10 | kd3 | cog; revered |
| 03:35.46 | Fisker- | lol Cairenn|afk |
| 03:35.53 | Fisker- | "ROFL, just thought about it. The problems with the trojans we had back in the day all makes sense now!" |
| 03:36.18 | Fisker- | Yeah those whose copyright you infringed upon in turn compromised you shitty secured servers with rootkits and began to keylog wowaccounts |
| 03:36.21 | Fisker- | IT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE NOW |
| 03:36.34 | Fisker- | your* |
| 03:37.21 | kd3 | ooh, 403 |
| 03:37.29 | Fisker- | kd3 |
| 03:37.36 | Fisker- | you are my world |
| 03:37.39 | WobWork | cogwheel: honoured? |
| 03:37.44 | WobWork | oh |
| 03:37.45 | WobWork | nm |
| 03:38.06 | Fisker- | whats up with that ScytheBlade1? |
| 03:38.59 | Fisker- | ah |
| 03:39.00 | Fisker- | 403 |
| 03:39.09 | Fisker- | mine just showed 404 the first time |
| 03:39.41 | Fisker- | moar like |
| 03:39.42 | Fisker- | http://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/game/character-copy.html |
| 03:40.03 | Fisker- | so the site is up |
| 03:40.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 03:40.09 | ScytheBlade1 | It was not a bit ago |
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| 03:40.29 | kd3 | about freaking time |
| 03:40.34 | AbsoRayne | yawns |
| 03:40.48 | AbsoRayne | Wipe on Tidewalker.....I hate this boss. |
| 03:40.59 | Fisker- | beta.wow-europe.com still redirects to the trial site :( |
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| 03:44.09 | AbsoRayne | Tidewalker is by far the most boring fight in SSC, for a tank at least. |
| 03:44.36 | AbsoRayne | You get to stare at this giants crotch for 10 minutes while he summons a shitton of warlock, and farts bubbles. |
| 03:45.04 | AbsoRayne | rer |
| 03:45.14 | AbsoRayne | s/warlock/murlocks |
| 03:45.18 | AbsoRayne | Whatever |
| 03:45.22 | dylanm | Same thing. |
| 03:45.27 | |Jelly| | s/warlocks/murlocks/ |
| 03:45.33 | DevastatorIIC | There's murlock warlocks now? |
| 03:45.42 | |Jelly| | If I had my way, yes. |
| 03:45.55 | kd3 | shudders |
| 03:46.01 | AbsoRayne | |Jelly|: Long time no see |
| 03:46.09 | |Jelly| | Granted, if I had my way, I would be able to Holy Nova like 500 murlocs down at a time. |
| 03:46.18 | |Jelly| | I was on and talking like an hour ago. lol |
| 03:46.22 | dylanm | Hola Nova lols. |
| 03:46.27 | AbsoRayne | I was afk messing with my UI :< |
| 03:46.45 | |Jelly| | I just don't have a whole lot to say because I don't play very much anymore and I'm so bored of WoW that when I log in to make a new UI (which I need to do) I just get all blah and log out. |
| 03:46.55 | DevastatorIIC | Had I my way, I'd have a murlock murdering range, with some sort of gatling gun. And charge admission. |
| 03:48.43 | Lopeppeppy | How much is a single character transfer? $10? $25? |
| 03:48.50 | AbsoRayne | Ah |
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| 03:49.52 | DevastatorIIC | 25, no bulk discounts |
| 03:49.54 | AbsoRayne | Sorry, wiping on TW |
| 03:50.05 | Lopeppeppy | Thanks. I was thinking $25. |
| 03:51.03 | AbsoRayne | God I hate Tidewalker. |
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| 03:52.24 | bleeter | Lopeppeppy: name changes are the $10 fee |
| 03:52.42 | bleeter | wish there were bulk discounts on transfers |
| 03:52.42 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, is that where I was confused? makes sense. *hugs for bleeter* |
| 03:52.54 | bleeter | Lopeppeppy: np :) |
| 04:00.25 | Keias | wow, I just saw a strange commercial |
| 04:00.37 | Keias | Some local place there that deals with the Blind |
| 04:00.42 | Keias | And it showed a blind guy playing poker |
| 04:00.56 | Keias | ..how can he tell what cards he has? I'm confused. |
| 04:01.14 | Lopeppeppy | Raised pips |
| 04:01.16 | bleeter | if he was playing other blind players |
| 04:01.22 | bleeter | then card marking's not really a problem? |
| 04:01.34 | bleeter | yeah, what Lopeppeppy said |
| 04:01.46 | Keias | Well the other player's cards looked normal |
| 04:01.58 | Keias | No braille or anything |
| 04:02.19 | bleeter | yeah, prolly just some pips in the corner |
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| 04:21.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: how can I force a reset of the threat? |
| 04:21.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Raid-wide |
| 04:22.20 | Antiarc | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:22.31 | Antiarc | Or tell everyone to /rl >_> |
| 04:22.32 | ScytheBlade1 | That's... far more simple than I expected, thanks |
| 04:22.36 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:22.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh ha |
| 04:22.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah I'll just /omen clear |
| 04:22.55 | ScytheBlade1 | fyi it isn't resetting on Nightbane transitions |
| 04:23.55 | art3mis | i wonder if ironman is gonna be the first comic->movie that doesnt suck balls |
| 04:24.38 | WobWork | art3mis: doubt it =P |
| 04:24.45 | art3mis | heh yeah |
| 04:25.15 | art3mis | ya know what would e awesmoe if they gave it a proper budget |
| 04:25.25 | art3mis | the Infinity Guantlet series |
| 04:25.31 | Antiarc | k, thanks |
| 04:26.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Should I file a bug on it? |
| 04:26.14 | art3mis | im torn on the dragonlance movie |
| 04:26.19 | art3mis | it's a good voicxe cast |
| 04:26.22 | art3mis | amazing story |
| 04:26.31 | art3mis | but dear god they went cheap ass on the animation |
| 04:27.29 | art3mis | haha and straight to dvd ;P |
| 04:29.35 | AbsoRayne | Whoever is reporting Exclamator in the UI thread, youre amazing. |
| 04:30.44 | Cairenn | Fisker-: omg, I thought you were joking - they actually posted that! O.O |
| 04:31.28 | bleeter | suspects he missed something in the split |
| 04:31.51 | WobWork | does haste affect GCD? |
| 04:32.12 | Cairenn | (11:22:35 PM) Cairenn: A heads-up to UIC users. UICentral, as created by site member Amthea, has been pulled from the site as it has come to light that there was a copyright infringment inside the application code. An unlicensed key was utilised to create a part of the application, and so to act responsibly, and protect the party invovled, we have pulled the file from the website. |
| 04:32.12 | Cairenn | (11:22:35 PM) Cairenn: http://wowui.worldofwar.net/?p=news&n=982 |
| 04:32.12 | Cairenn | (11:37:50 PM) Fisker-: "ROFL, just thought about it. The problems with the trojans we had back in the day all makes sense now!" |
| 04:33.38 | bleeter | ./facepalm |
| 04:33.57 | Cairenn | this is priceless too |
| 04:34.01 | Cairenn | "we plan to have another application designed from the ground up without the worry of some piss-ant lawyer breathing down our necks about "distributing applications without checking first that the program used was a legit copy. Ignorance of proper licensing is NO EXCUSE!". Honestly, how the hell are we supposed to check that crap anyways?" |
| 04:34.21 | Cairenn | O.O |
| 04:34.27 | bleeter | ./facepalm x infinity |
| 04:34.52 | WobWork | ... |
| 04:34.55 | WobWork | wtftf |
| 04:35.02 | WobWork | >< |
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| 04:35.29 | art3mis | hah |
| 04:35.37 | WobWork | Is there anywhere we can go donate to that lawyer?. |
| 04:35.39 | bleeter | anyone posted that crap to the UI/Macro forum yet? |
| 04:35.48 | bleeter | WobWork: please lemme know when you find out |
| 04:36.20 | bleeter | I just love how they've admitted publically they don't give a shit about (C) unless a lawyer rings them up |
| 04:36.49 | bleeter | even more reason to avoid their distribution of addons |
| 04:37.00 | Cairenn | someone who isn't me needs to post it :p |
| 04:37.02 | bleeter | altohugh, we knew their (C) attitude from previous incidents |
| 04:37.06 | bleeter | I will! |
| 04:37.07 | art3mis | "We are sad to point out an enevitable truth that you all saw coming, worldofwar.net will be leaving the addon distribution game as we fail on so many levels it's hard to maintain we know what we're doing. That being said we will be shutting the site down at the end of the month and moving onto better things like email spamming and SEO rss blogging (i hear there's good money in it)" |
| 04:37.32 | Cairenn | (complete with chaosinc's comments) |
| 04:37.48 | kd3 | wtf |
| 04:38.14 | Cairenn | if you read the post, you have to think that there are comments that have to be deleted, since ChaosInc's comments don't seem to really have context |
| 04:38.15 | WobWork | is this an April Fools thing? |
| 04:38.24 | art3mis | From the makers of Worldofwar.net, torrent.worldofwar.net your one stop shop to purchaing fast access to all 0day releases" |
| 04:38.30 | WobWork | or somehow they've been totally hacked? |
| 04:38.33 | Cairenn | http://wowui.worldofwar.net/?p=news&n=982 |
| 04:38.47 | Cairenn | posted by Rushster 5 hrs ago |
| 04:39.19 | Cairenn | so no, I'd think not an April Fools thing |
| 04:39.23 | bleeter | WobWork: can't be april fools thing, posted two hours ago |
| 04:39.48 | kd3 | sighs at the "kanoki pads" commercial on TV |
| 04:39.51 | bleeter | Cairenn: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5720382511&sid=1 |
| 04:40.07 | kd3 | apparently we can detox our bodies by wearing adhesive pads on the soles of our feet |
| 04:40.35 | bleeter | kd3: I thought it was magnets on the wrists that did that? |
| 04:40.40 | Guillotine | el oh el |
| 04:42.27 | art3mis | no the magents cure arthritis ;P |
| 04:42.40 | art3mis | magnets |
| 04:42.47 | Nechckn | If that is an april fools thing- that is the biggest fail- ever |
| 04:43.11 | Nechckn | I agree.. after the "cutoff' and all- wow |
| 04:43.12 | bleeter | those guys are in the UK, aren't they? pretty sure it's not Apr 1st there |
| 04:43.21 | Cairenn | yes, they are |
| 04:43.26 | Cairenn | Rushster is in Scotland |
| 04:43.28 | Nechckn | nah.. it's not the 1st anywhere |
| 04:44.22 | bleeter | cmon, someone reply to my post so it doesn't sink! :P |
| 04:44.52 | bleeter | not that it's likely too anytime real soon ;) |
| 04:45.01 | bleeter | UI/Macro doesn't have the turnover of CSF |
| 04:45.16 | Cairenn | depends on the day |
| 04:45.22 | Cairenn | it sure scrolls after a patch |
| 04:45.39 | bleeter | the other bit I like in their post, is the inferred allegation that the real (C) holder of the app was the one injecting the trojans |
| 04:46.46 | bleeter | hopefully the real (C) owner will read it that way and will contemplate the UK slander/libel laws, which I suspect are a fair bit tougher than US (no constituitional amendments for free speech, etc.) |
| 04:46.52 | bleeter | my 2c |
| 04:53.09 | Duman | wtf @ that thread |
| 04:53.56 | WobWork | bleeter: I'll donate to that cause |
| 04:54.11 | WobWork | cause while I normally hold no ill will towards uic etc |
| 04:54.17 | WobWork | That post is so wtfworthy |
| 04:54.27 | WobWork | for -anyone- who has done anything on the internet for more than a few months |
| 04:55.41 | WobWork | although, I think a scan of -all- the software on their servers would be very... informative. |
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| 04:57.21 | WobWork | reads the scrollback |
| 04:57.31 | WobWork | oh jesus art3mis, I thought you were actually quoting them =P |
| 04:57.57 | bleeter | someone needs to heads up mmo-champion and wowinsider about it |
| 04:59.37 | bleeter | I'm trying to find a way to write in the UI/Macro forum 'nice to see your attitude to (C) so clearly on display' |
| 04:59.51 | bleeter | but no matter how I word it, it comes out that I'd probably end up with a forum suspension |
| 05:00.32 | Duman | haha |
| 05:00.49 | Duman | god damn, people on the bugs forums piss me off sometimes |
| 05:00.57 | Duman | *forum |
| 05:01.16 | bleeter | I wonder what Hortus does as a hobby |
| 05:01.23 | Duman | heh |
| 05:01.24 | bleeter | I know I'd be into stuff that involves breaking lots of things |
| 05:01.30 | Duman | yeah no kidding |
| 05:01.44 | WobWork | maybe stabbing |
| 05:01.47 | Duman | something to relieve the stress |
| 05:01.48 | WobWork | I'd probably go for stabbing |
| 05:01.56 | kd3 | meh, that's what GTA's 4 |
| 05:01.59 | kd3 | s/4/for/ |
| 05:02.01 | kd3 | wtf |
| 05:02.02 | Duman | I could tell he was a little miffed at the whole april fools day forum antics |
| 05:02.05 | kd3 | looks for more caffeine |
| 05:02.13 | WobWork | nah, I'd cultivate a relationship with someone who owns a meat factory |
| 05:02.19 | Duman | bahhaa |
| 05:02.28 | WobWork | then go in with a knife and 'tenderise' stuff |
| 05:02.42 | bleeter | Duman: I suspect that was more just compound issues, arena and live down, forum foo and highroller, would've been a very stressful day for a number of Blizz staff |
| 05:02.51 | bleeter | er, s/arena/tourny/ |
| 05:02.58 | Duman | yeha, post-patch day stuff and all |
| 05:03.37 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15674 |
| 05:03.45 | Duman | I mean, if I were he, I'd be a little angry with threads like this: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5720152423&sid=1 |
| 05:04.14 | ScytheBlade1 | LOL |
| 05:04.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: LOL |
| 05:04.22 | Duman | nice cairenn |
| 05:04.25 | ScytheBlade1 | A hahahahaha |
| 05:04.32 | Cairenn | just posted exactly what is there |
| 05:04.51 | kd3 | lmfao |
| 05:04.51 | Cairenn | so people know that they won't be able to use UIC any more |
| 05:04.55 | kd3 | oh this is rich |
| 05:05.03 | WobWork | Cairenn - Mistress of Diplomacy |
| 05:05.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Soooooooooooo rich |
| 05:05.16 | ScytheBlade1 | claps |
| 05:05.21 | Duman | hehe |
| 05:05.25 | Antiarc | Ahahahahaha, holy crap. |
| 05:05.26 | Antiarc | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5720382511&sid=1 |
| 05:05.42 | Bibi | bleeter : nice one |
| 05:05.43 | Bibi | ^^ |
| 05:05.51 | Cairenn | you guys are nasty |
| 05:06.04 | Bibi | I prefer to be called french |
| 05:06.08 | Bibi | :( |
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| 05:06.49 | dylanm | Somehow implicate worldofraids in all of this. |
| 05:07.04 | bleeter | I love the French... the beaches down south are great ;) |
| 05:07.44 | Bibi | anyway, will see if I can post it on mmo-champion |
| 05:07.51 | kamdis | Since when is December "back in the day" lol |
| 05:07.57 | Bibi | I don't think there are many blue posts today anyway |
| 05:08.15 | kd3 | oh, bibi; the chat log change getting pulled is mentioned in the bug reports forum. https://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5687510006&postId=56868578340&sid=1#4 |
| 05:08.23 | bleeter | Bibi: I suspect it's coz of certain behind the scenes actions that appear to be going on |
| 05:08.30 | bleeter | prolly trying to get it happening before the weekend |
| 05:08.38 | Bibi | hmmm k kd3 will edit it |
| 05:08.40 | Bibi | ty |
| 05:08.51 | Bibi | (totally forgot about this one :p) |
| 05:09.37 | bleeter | I still want a Eternium Netherdrake to replace what they did to the other Engi pets |
| 05:09.48 | bleeter | reducing the cooldown as a payoff is totally whack |
| 05:10.30 | bleeter | bad enough they removed the surprise element from engi's in BGs with flag carrying :( |
| 05:10.47 | bleeter | (yeah, just remembered, haven't bitched about that this week) |
| 05:10.47 | WobWork | bleeter: actually, what would be utterly UTTERLY awesome as a engi mount, would be a roflcopter that transformed into a robotic netherdrake ala Transformers |
| 05:11.08 | kd3 | I'd pick up engineering for that |
| 05:11.17 | WobWork | I'd so totally do so on all my alts too =) |
| 05:11.18 | bleeter | WobWork: maybe in WotLK... kinda thinking destructable buildings and stuff need engi skill somewhere |
| 05:11.34 | Bibi | not needed |
| 05:11.38 | Bibi | hunters + explosive arrows. |
| 05:11.47 | WobWork | I want trick arrows |
| 05:11.53 | WobWork | like punching glove arrows |
| 05:11.56 | WobWork | and handcuff arrows |
| 05:12.03 | bleeter | kinky |
| 05:12.07 | WobWork | I'd dress my hunter in green |
| 05:12.17 | WobWork | and call him OliverKing |
| 05:12.18 | Bibi | yeah, let's put handcuffs and female night elves in the same game ! |
| 05:12.20 | Bibi | good idea ! |
| 05:12.26 | kd3 | o_O; |
| 05:12.33 | bleeter | I'll /sign that SUggestion post |
| 05:13.15 | Bibi | we could ask kd3 to do it, he's Hortus best friend. |
| 05:15.55 | Cairenn | omg I so want to "qft" #4 on the incgamers' thread |
| 05:16.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh no worries |
| 05:16.17 | ScytheBlade1 | I'll get that in a sec |
| 05:17.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh. I probably just made her worry ;) |
| 05:17.41 | kamdis | Wobin, you're funny. |
| 05:17.48 | kamdis | I mean, "funny" |
| 05:17.51 | kamdis | ;-) |
| 05:19.02 | bleeter | WobWork: oO I didn't know you were on AD |
| 05:19.20 | bleeter | RPers ftw! far less annoying dickhead kids in cities ;) |
| 05:20.26 | kamdis | I'm on both (RP and Normal). Does that mean I'm bipolar or something? |
| 05:21.31 | Tem | How do RP servers respond to people who have no interest in RP but have rolled on their server to avoid the dickheads on Normal servers? |
| 05:22.04 | Gngsk | one would hope that they don't have to since if someone is trying to avoid a dickhead, they usually aren't themselves a dickhead |
| 05:22.59 | bleeter | Cairenn: ugh, sorry, my reply to your wowi post didn't mean to get that kinda response from that wowui admin |
| 05:23.35 | Antiarc | Tem: I'm one of those, the server treats me well. |
| 05:23.46 | Tem | omg the omen guy talked to me |
| 05:23.49 | Tem | Antiarc, interesting |
| 05:23.54 | Antiarc | I'm on Cenarion Circle |
| 05:23.58 | Tem | I might have to consider rolling on one |
| 05:24.07 | Antiarc | I really enjoy it. I'm not a roleplayer but the atmosphere is a lot nicer than most servers. |
| 05:24.21 | Cairenn | bleeter: I was about to rip into you anyway for it |
| 05:24.23 | Antiarc | I just try to stay in character in say/yells, and even that is trivial to do. |
| 05:24.23 | bleeter | Tem: yeah, what Antiarc said. It's about tolerance. Non-rp'ers are tolerated by RPers, as long as it doesn't interfere, and vice-versa. Typically, this just involves turning off /trade |
| 05:24.35 | bleeter | Cairenn: kk |
| 05:24.36 | Antiarc | Mostly, if you aren't a dick, RPers won't be a dick back :P |
| 05:24.38 | Duman | kd3: ok, I snapped... I had to respond to that thread in bug reports |
| 05:24.51 | Tem | Antiarc, what if I'm grammar police? |
| 05:24.57 | Tem | does that count as being a dick? |
| 05:25.07 | kd3 | I'm staying out of it. no way I could provide an appropriate response |
| 05:25.14 | Cairenn | (although I didn't know it was you, but doesn't matter) - you know better than to talk like that on the site |
| 05:25.16 | bleeter | Cairenn: well, I guess better that I'm the one posting something 'offensive' like that, than some unknown |
| 05:25.18 | Antiarc | Haha, many RPers are grammar police :P |
| 05:25.21 | Tem | (honestly, being grammar police in trade chat is high-goddamn-larious on my server) |
| 05:25.35 | Antiarc | Give it a shot, see what you think |
| 05:25.45 | Antiarc | Really, it's really quite nice if that's what you're looking for |
| 05:25.48 | bleeter | Cairenn: no, I didn't, otherwise I wouldn't have (self evident is ... self eviden). once again, apologies. |
| 05:25.51 | Tem | Can you transfer from normal to rp? |
| 05:25.58 | Cairenn | no worries |
| 05:25.58 | kd3 | yup |
| 05:26.00 | Antiarc | Yeah |
| 05:26.05 | Tem | hmm |
| 05:26.12 | DevastatorIIC | I found an addon that corrects people's grammar, it's hilarious to watch |
| 05:28.47 | bleeter | Tem: only real thing to watch out for on RP realms, is generally due to a lower pop they're not as progressed as nonRP |
| 05:28.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, posted. |
| 05:28.58 | ScytheBlade1 | And with that, time to create a new troll.. |
| 05:29.35 | Antiarc | CC is one of the highest pop servers around, actually |
| 05:29.39 | Antiarc | But progression sorta sucks :P |
| 05:29.45 | Antiarc | We have...5? Illidan killing guilds |
| 05:29.52 | Antiarc | Top guild had Brutallus to 15% tonight |
| 05:29.59 | NightHawkTheSane | wooo! first piece of t6! |
| 05:30.14 | bleeter | Cairenn: apology post writter, original response edited to be less inflammatory. please lemme know if what I changed it to is still unacceptable |
| 05:30.23 | Antiarc | NightHawkTheSane: Congrats! |
| 05:30.32 | Cairenn | better, thank you |
| 05:30.39 | bleeter | (I did think about removing it in total, but figured the response from Izador may make it read that I said something far far worse) |
| 05:30.51 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 05:31.38 | NightHawkTheSane | also, me = 23.6% of all healing for that azgalor kill |
| 05:31.45 | Cairenn | so - Izador - hands up, who are you in here? this channel has always been site-independent, and staff from any of the sites gets +v |
| 05:32.55 | bleeter | CC's certainly one of the most progressed RP realms, I'll grant you that |
| 05:33.01 | bleeter | poor ol' TB ... hahaha |
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| 05:36.08 | bleeter | Cairenn: I must say, though, away from the forums, that I find Izadore's sig on WoWI ... something or other (not ironic, the word escapes me right now) |
| 05:36.18 | ScytheBlade1 | "Fitting" |
| 05:36.23 | ScytheBlade1 | I was thinking the same thing |
| 05:36.31 | Cairenn | ah, apparently Izadore = ChaosInc |
| 05:36.54 | Tem | wow |
| 05:37.07 | Tem | Cairenn, is it me or did that post seem really high and might? |
| 05:37.12 | Tem | s/might/mighty/ |
| 05:37.20 | Cairenn | shrugs |
| 05:37.34 | Tem | "I demand that you censor your users because we don't want people to know how much we really do suck" |
| 05:37.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Tem: I wouldn't go that far |
| 05:38.02 | Cairenn | come on guys, be nice |
| 05:38.13 | Tem | Cairenn, nice was over 2 months ago |
| 05:39.52 | ScytheBlade1 | has a sudden feeling that the real conversation is happening elsewhere |
| 05:41.10 | NightHawkTheSane | ugh. |
| 05:41.21 | NightHawkTheSane | just took a habitual sip of the beer bottle next to him |
| 05:41.27 | NightHawkTheSane | forgot it was last nights beer. |
| 05:41.28 | Cairenn | naw, tired |
| 05:41.40 | Tem | NightHawkTheSane, lol |
| 05:42.00 | bleeter | NightHawkTheSane: that makes me ill just reading it |
| 05:43.07 | kd3 | ugh |
| 05:43.09 | kd3 | warm beer |
| 05:43.13 | kd3 | shudders |
| 05:47.37 | Tem | ~emulate saien |
| 05:47.38 | purl | Why do I care? Why are you posting here? |
| 05:47.47 | Tem | ~emulate saien |
| 05:47.47 | purl | Why do I care? Why are you posting here? |
| 05:47.48 | MentalPower | ~literal emulate saien |
| 05:47.49 | purl | "emulate saien" is "<reply>Slash commands are ameturish.||<reply>I could have helped you, but I won't.||<reply>You are of course, wrong, and I invite you to prove it to yourself.||<reply>This is a stunningly stupid question to direct at me.||<reply>Your question is not very descriptive, helpful, or useful in any manner.||<reply>Why do I care? Why are you posting here?" |
| 05:48.00 | Tem | way to take all the fun out of it, MP =P |
| 05:48.04 | Duman | hmm |
| 05:48.05 | MentalPower | :P |
| 05:48.21 | MentalPower | Duman: those quotes are all true BTW |
| 05:49.44 | Duman | heh |
| 05:49.46 | WobWork | bleeter: I was on AD =P Mostly moved my main to Cael though, for better raiding possiblites |
| 05:50.00 | Duman | wait |
| 05:50.04 | Duman | I remember saien |
| 05:50.08 | Duman | "saien's stash" ? |
| 05:50.36 | Tem | something like that |
| 05:50.38 | Duman | oops, "saien's crap" |
| 05:50.43 | Duman | haha i still have the url bookmarked |
| 05:50.46 | Tem | yes, exactly |
| 05:50.57 | Duman | http://64.168.251.69/wow/ |
| 05:51.01 | Duman | doesnt work, obviously :) |
| 05:51.25 | bleeter | holy shit |
| 05:51.31 | bleeter | saien sounds like a guy from #Pidgin |
| 05:51.45 | bleeter | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:52.07 | bleeter | maybe they're related |
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| 05:58.24 | Jinivus | Hmmmz |
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| 05:59.27 | Jinivus | when i fire "DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(select(3,GetWorldStateUIInfo(1)))" in AV, it gives "Reinforements: 280", how can i get rid of the Reinforcements text and just have the 280? |
| 06:00.08 | Iriel | GetWorldStateUIInfo(1):match("(%d+)") |
| 06:00.14 | Tem | :match("(%d+)") |
| 06:00.17 | Tem | aww |
| 06:00.26 | Tem | get out of my head, Iriel |
| 06:00.30 | Jinivus | lol |
| 06:00.32 | Jinivus | tyvm |
| 06:01.07 | Duman | haha |
| 06:02.45 | Cairenn | night MentalPower|ZzZz, sweet dreams |
| 06:02.54 | MentalPower|ZzZz | night Cairenn |
| 06:05.39 | Jinivus | So, "/script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(select(3,GetWorldStateUIInfo(1):match("(%d+)")))" should work, yes? |
| 06:07.35 | MentalPower|ZzZz | ./script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(select(3,GetWorldStateUIInfo(1)):match("(%d+)")) |
| 06:08.13 | Jinivus | tyvm |
| 06:08.14 | Jinivus | <3 |
| 06:08.40 | Jinivus | anywhere i can learn all this stuff |
| 06:08.41 | Jinivus | like |
| 06:08.45 | Jinivus | a noob tutorial |
| 06:08.51 | MentalPower|ZzZz | ~pil |
| 06:08.52 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 06:08.53 | Jinivus | or you jsut pick it up over time? |
| 06:09.07 | Corrodias | whew! spent all evening playing subspace/continuum. good stuff. |
| 06:09.19 | Corrodias | Jinivus: as for the WoW API, that can be found at WoWWiki |
| 06:09.53 | Jinivus | yea, found the API/Events, cheers |
| 06:10.35 | Corrodias | you need both the base API and the widget API to know all of what functions you can call |
| 06:10.53 | Jinivus | kk, ill take a look at the widget |
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| 06:26.46 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe. "What? Why do I have agro? Oh, I'm the only one alive..." ahh, vent is fun. |
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| 06:31.51 | AbsoRayne | So this Fire Mage made a bet that he could pull TPS off me vs any heroic mech boss... |
| 06:32.17 | AbsoRayne | Aparently, he doesnt know what being overgeared for an instance means |
| 06:33.51 | AbsoRayne | When a boss in heroic mech hits me for like 300 cause im blocking over 800. :/ |
| 06:34.27 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 06:34.34 | ScytheBlade1 | So I pissed off an ircop on another network |
| 06:34.41 | ScytheBlade1 | And instead of outright killing/glining me |
| 06:34.46 | ScytheBlade1 | He made me join 3000 channels |
| 06:34.53 | AbsoRayne | rofl |
| 06:35.04 | ScytheBlade1 | 1500 #I-Like-Goats0 through 1500, and #I-Like-Sheep0 through 1500 |
| 06:35.11 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 06:35.16 | DevastatorIIC | wow |
| 06:35.46 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 06:36.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Server motd: MAXCHANNELS=25 |
| 06:36.03 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm totally breaking that atm |
| 06:36.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Haha |
| 06:36.52 | ScytheBlade1 | #I-Like-Kittens is go |
| 06:37.06 | ScytheBlade1 | +1000 channels |
| 06:38.06 | nevcairiel | i wonder .. are you alone in those channels ? =P |
| 06:38.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 06:40.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Weak, my IRC client is only using 40MB of RAM |
| 06:41.51 | Nom | He probably expected that to kill your IRC client |
| 06:42.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Probably |
| 06:42.10 | ScytheBlade1 | xchat took it like a pro though |
| 06:42.38 | WobWork | what... cheap and in a dark alley? |
| 06:42.48 | DevastatorIIC | I wonder how irssi would've done |
| 06:42.51 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 06:42.57 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm in irssi here |
| 06:43.10 | NightHawkTheSane | WobWork: no, mirc is cheap and in a dark ally :P |
| 06:43.18 | WobWork | truedat |
| 06:43.20 | ScytheBlade1 | hehe, agreed |
| 06:46.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Anywho sleep |
| 06:46.36 | ScytheBlade1 | disconnects screen |
| 06:46.48 | DevastatorIIC | ^ad |
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| 07:00.44 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm.. there's an issue with death messages in the combat log isn't there |
| 07:00.45 | AbsoRayne | http://www.freewebs.com/absorayne/WoWScrnShot%5F040208%5F234828.png Any suggestions guys n gals? |
| 07:01.27 | Guillotine | don't drink and drivew |
| 07:01.30 | Guillotine | drive* |
| 07:01.40 | Cairenn | know your limit and stay within it |
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| 07:02.29 | AbsoRayne | Guillotine: But I just drank a fifth of vodka! |
| 07:02.39 | DevastatorIIC | Never buy Foxconn or Winfast motherboards |
| 07:02.50 | DevastatorIIC | AbsoRayne: that means you're only 1/5th done! |
| 07:03.25 | Guillotine | lol |
| 07:03.39 | AbsoRayne | I KNOW! |
| 07:03.42 | AbsoRayne | goes back to drinking |
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| 07:49.39 | Guillotine | night all! |
| 07:50.03 | Guillotine | the "still alive" song by jonathan coulton at the end of portal is stuck in my head :( |
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| 07:50.22 | NightHawkTheSane | dammit, that pinged me |
| 07:50.36 | p30n | PING?! |
| 07:50.38 | p30n | lolcaps |
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| 08:04.55 | Jinivus | http://wowi.pastey.net/85001 |
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| 10:07.06 | Adys | If anyone's interested, updated http://www.wowwiki.com/OpenWDB draft for DBC support |
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| 10:54.49 | Wobin | I bought a beanie baby monkey to wear on my shoulder |
| 10:54.57 | Wobin | for this pirate themed 21st |
| 10:55.03 | Wobin | It's pink. |
| 10:55.06 | Wobin | And has hearts on it |
| 10:55.29 | Wobin | I will say it's a zombie monkey |
| 10:59.32 | p30n | 21st of what ? |
| 10:59.39 | p30n | i wanna be a pirrrrate too |
| 10:59.41 | p30n | yarr |
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| 11:04.04 | Wobin | 21st birthday |
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| 11:04.14 | p30n | oh, nice |
| 11:04.22 | p30n | gratz |
| 11:04.37 | Legorol | grats on your ding, 39 to go |
| 11:04.43 | Legorol | i mean 49 |
| 11:10.01 | p30n | i bet the cap will hit 80 before he hits 70 :) |
| 11:22.17 | Legorol | you never know with Blizz |
| 11:22.29 | p30n | hehe, tru dat |
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| 11:44.32 | Fritz | I'm offering up my firstborn if anyone knows how to append counterspell duration (8 seconds) to quartz's debuff bars. |
| 11:45.05 | p30n | i can tell u after u watch this vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI |
| 11:45.11 | Fritz | Guessing it's not possible without a lot of work but I figure I'll ask anyway. |
| 11:45.16 | Fritz | I'm not clicking that. |
| 11:45.26 | p30n | your loss :) |
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| 11:54.51 | Fritz | The closest thing I've found is the quartztimer option =( |
| 11:59.41 | Legorol | p30n: >.< |
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| 12:17.29 | Wulfos | hi |
| 12:17.45 | Wulfos | is there a api function to check if the players group is a party or a raid? |
| 12:19.41 | Industrial | UnitExists('someraidmemberunit') |
| 12:20.09 | Industrial | but I guess you can have a raid without members, hmm |
| 12:20.56 | Wulfos | i just want to know if i have to convert the party to a raid or it is done already |
| 12:22.53 | Industrial | Anyone know why UnitBuff works with an index but GetPlayerBuff works with a buff name string? |
| 12:22.56 | Industrial | why do you always have to loop all damn buffs or debuff for every unit |
| 12:22.59 | Industrial | every lookup |
| 12:23.48 | wereHamster | cache the buff/debuff list |
| 12:23.59 | Industrial | Also, can I make it faster; http://pastey.net/85012 |
| 12:24.02 | Industrial | on UNIT_BUFF ? |
| 12:24.09 | Industrial | er, AURA |
| 12:24.10 | Industrial | :p |
| 12:34.16 | Industrial | wereHamster: got an example/ |
| 12:34.33 | Industrial | some code for me to look at/copy :> |
| 12:35.14 | Josh_Borke | Wulfos: function isRaid() return UnitExists('raid1') end |
| 12:35.48 | Industrial | Josh_Borke: does party become raid units automatically when in a raid? |
| 12:35.54 | nuoHep` | Industrial, specialevents-aura? it caches auras afaik |
| 12:35.58 | Josh_Borke | Wulfos: if (UnitExists('raid1')) then ChatFrame1:AddMessage("In raid") elseif (UnitExists('party1')) then ChatFrame1:AddMessage("In Party") else ChatFrame1:AddMessage("Solo") end |
| 12:36.14 | Josh_Borke | Industrial: raid units go from 1-40, ie, you cannot have a raid of 5 and not have a raid1 |
| 12:36.15 | wereHamster | Industrial, what exactly are you trying to do? |
| 12:36.38 | Industrial | I just wanna see if my target has a debuff (Fire Shock/Stormstrike) |
| 12:37.22 | Industrial | http://pastey.net/85014 |
| 12:37.32 | Industrial | line 51 and 107 |
| 12:38.21 | Industrial | the addon shows a texture of a shock - changes under circumstances like fire shock debuff (throw frost) and stormstrike (throw earth) |
| 12:39.52 | wereHamster | try specialevents-aura |
| 12:40.37 | Wulfos | Josh_Borke: Thank you, ill gonna try it! :D |
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| 12:47.26 | Hjalte | Antiarc: "Add a 2.5-second target switch buffer before any warnings will be fired." <3 |
| 12:54.52 | Wulfos | sorry for my noob questions but i cant find good tutorials ^^' how can i make an OnUpdate function just with lua (this:SetScript("OnUpdate"... ?) |
| 12:55.22 | Josh_Borke | this:SetScript("OnUpdate", <some function to run>) |
| 12:55.28 | Josh_Borke | you can either define a function earlier on in the file |
| 12:55.35 | Wulfos | and how can i add the args there? |
| 12:55.37 | Josh_Borke | or you can place the function in that (bad practice) |
| 12:55.44 | Josh_Borke | by setting up values |
| 12:56.23 | Wulfos | hm, ok thank you ^^ |
| 12:56.25 | Josh_Borke | ie, local param1, param2, param3; function OnUpdate(f, elapsed) <do stuff with the params> end; param1 = <some new value> |
| 12:56.58 | Wulfos | hmmmm ok ^^ |
| 12:58.20 | Josh_Borke | Funkeh`: of course it is! |
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| 12:58.28 | Josh_Borke | Funkeh`: it got your attention didn't it? |
| 12:58.29 | Funkeh` | >< |
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| 13:42.50 | zenzelezz | I wonder what part of e-mail subjects like "rep!ic@ watches :: rolex:: fake //atches ::" make people think "hey, this must be a serious business" |
| 13:43.00 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 13:43.32 | Lopeppeppy | Excessive punctuation,, is always! serious business?!?!? |
| 13:47.15 | Elkano | it was fun on 4/1 when QuakeNet gave out hostmasks that looked liked spam subjects and said that they had sold them as ad space ^^ |
| 13:47.38 | zenzelezz | hehe |
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| 13:48.12 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 13:48.17 | ScytheBlade1 | That's actually pretty good |
| 13:53.31 | dylanm | Two more pages of Saeris. |
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| 14:03.13 | Bela|work | you know there are a lot of those libraries that could easily be combined into one library |
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| 14:08.19 | Elkano | Bela, ever seen AlarLib? ;) |
| 14:09.19 | Bela|work | this? http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5781-AlarMod.html |
| 14:11.04 | Bela|work | just moved it to outdated mods |
| 14:11.28 | Bela|work | wowi database needs some spring cleaning imho |
| 14:16.06 | ScytheBlade1 | watches Bela|work fire off the mad delete button |
| 14:16.31 | Bela|work | no I don't delete |
| 14:16.34 | Bela|work | I just outdate |
| 14:16.41 | Bela|work | although sometimes I wish I could |
| 14:16.52 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 14:17.24 | Bela|work | I sent Saeris a pm, outside of my role as moderator, politely asking him to consider combining some of his libraries into a single library, instead of depending on each other |
| 14:18.08 | ScytheBlade1 | offtopic: can anyone else reach http://wowui.worldofwar.net/ ? |
| 14:18.37 | zenzelezz | I can't |
| 14:18.44 | dylanm | Neither can I. |
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| 14:19.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Good times. Just as long as I'm not the only one |
| 14:20.21 | Bela|work | wait, you wanted to? |
| 14:20.33 | ScytheBlade1 | chuckles |
| 14:20.38 | Bela|work | sorry, that was mean |
| 14:20.51 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm trying to be nice about it, but I will admit, I laughed |
| 14:20.58 | Bela|work | maybe his power went out |
| 14:21.03 | Bela|work | in his basement |
| 14:21.05 | ScytheBlade1 | That's it |
| 14:21.09 | ScytheBlade1 | That's gotta be it right there |
| 14:21.34 | Bela|work | maybe his brother needed the commodore to surf porn |
| 14:21.37 | Bela|work | oh wait |
| 14:21.51 | ScytheBlade1 | "Back in a bit guys! The UPS just died, and Comcast takes a bit even after the power outage is fixed to come back up." |
| 14:22.15 | Bela|work | he ddn't really say that |
| 14:22.16 | Lopeppeppy | Lollerskates, all around the room... *hums Code Monkey* |
| 14:22.18 | Bela|work | did he? |
| 14:22.22 | ScytheBlade1 | lol, no |
| 14:22.25 | ScytheBlade1 | He did not |
| 14:27.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Also, holy crap stomach acid |
| 14:28.01 | ScytheBlade1 | afk |
| 14:29.49 | Industrial | Is there a level requirement on shield spikes? |
| 14:30.01 | Industrial | eg can I put an adamantite spike on a L20 shiedld? |
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| 14:31.24 | Industrial | er, felsteel |
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| 14:31.50 | ScytheBlade1 | A hahahaha |
| 14:31.52 | ralfWORK | any shadowpriests ever been asked to "heal if you see somenone about to die"? |
| 14:31.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5640976844&sid=1#15 |
| 14:32.29 | ScytheBlade1 | That post deserves more kudos than I can give it |
| 14:34.23 | ScytheBlade1 | ralfWORK: no... that's the job of the healer. That said, if the healer died and/or the entire party was hovering around 20% HP, I'd suggest that a shadow priest heals there |
| 14:35.11 | ralfWORK | ScytheBlade1: not talking about healer being dead |
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| 14:35.29 | ScytheBlade1 | ralfWORK: yeah, people are retarded |
| 14:35.32 | ralfWORK | yea. k. |
| 14:35.36 | ralfWORK | just wanted to make sure |
| 14:35.50 | ralfWORK | cause it was about the most retarded thing I've heard |
| 14:35.58 | ralfWORK | esp. because healing doesn't work like that |
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| 14:36.14 | ralfWORK | I've heard "throw on your healing gear for this encounter" |
| 14:36.30 | ScytheBlade1 | I won't lie, you have substandard CC, and absurdely high threat relative to your DPS, but good crap, that is a retarded thing to say |
| 14:36.50 | ralfWORK | this was aran :) |
| 14:37.00 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 14:37.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Thought you meant 5-man |
| 14:37.06 | ralfWORK | so, no CC, no threat |
| 14:37.08 | ralfWORK | no |
| 14:37.17 | ralfWORK | I'm talking serious business |
| 14:37.20 | ralfWORK | KZ! |
| 14:38.05 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 14:38.39 | ralfWORK | I just needed someone else to say it was retarded with me |
| 14:38.48 | dru_ | ralfWORK: don't feel bad, last night we tried a new tank and 2 new healers, a new mage and a new strider kiter on Vash. Things did not go well :( |
| 14:38.48 | ralfWORK | I would never in a million years ask someone to do that |
| 14:39.20 | ralfWORK | I'd *maybe* tell someone to put on X gear for this fight, and for that fight that's what they do |
| 14:39.21 | |Jelly| | Trial by fire much? |
| 14:39.27 | ralfWORK | trial by fire ftw |
| 14:39.44 | dru_ | the only way to learn how well people adapt and think on their feet. |
| 14:39.50 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:39.54 | dru_ | the tank is getting a guild invite. |
| 14:39.54 | ralfWORK | for example, if we have a prot pally, I'll have him dispelling on Maiden |
| 14:40.06 | dru_ | the mage, NFW. |
| 14:40.20 | |Jelly| | Whack-a-mole isn't trial by fire imo. :P |
| 14:40.29 | dru_ | the strider kiter, I think we'll let him keep at it :-) |
| 14:40.44 | dru_ | not sure about the healers though :( |
| 14:40.56 | ralfWORK | |Jelly|: oh sorry, that wasn't in response to the "trial by fire" bit |
| 14:41.00 | |Jelly| | ahh |
| 14:41.18 | ralfWORK | you're right; asking someone to do something off spec != trial by fire |
| 14:41.20 | Wobin | Surely KTM has a multi mob threat now? |
| 14:41.25 | Wobin | whut? |
| 14:41.25 | ralfWORK | KTM blows |
| 14:41.38 | dru_ | our normal warlock / frost mage kiter wasn't available so we went with and elemental shammy / frost mage. |
| 14:41.42 | Wobin | Doesn't it? |
| 14:41.53 | dru_ | the shammy did well for a first timer. |
| 14:42.14 | dru_ | got fubar a couple of times before we got phase 2 under control |
| 14:42.40 | dru_ | but the new mage managed to die before phase1 was over in the first 4 attempts. |
| 14:43.34 | Bela|work | we had an app warlock tank Capernian on Vashj her trial night this week |
| 14:43.43 | Bela|work | she did better than our Veteran warlock who usually does it |
| 14:43.48 | Bela|work | needless to say she got invited |
| 14:43.51 | ralfWORK | Bela|work: scary when that happens |
| 14:44.00 | Bela|work | err Kael |
| 14:44.03 | Bela|work | not Vashj |
| 14:44.08 | Bela|work | my brain is messed up |
| 14:44.12 | ralfWORK | aside from attendance, our weakest point is tanks |
| 14:44.28 | ralfWORK | I got new 70s tanking better than our veteran tank |
| 14:44.48 | Bela|work | dru_: elemental shamans make good kiters for the striders, if they can get past the "fear" of doing it |
| 14:44.56 | Bela|work | they have two abilities that slow them |
| 14:45.03 | dru_ | Bela|work: yeah, but you gotta love having new people with skills |
| 14:45.12 | zenzelezz | our first two Vashj kills we used a hunter and a moonkin to kite |
| 14:45.58 | Bela|work | we usually use a mage, but I like the ele shaman to do it too |
| 14:46.00 | dru_ | Bela|work: the shamman worked well, and I'm usually the frost mage / tailor slowing and rooting |
| 14:46.02 | Bela|work | he can take more punishment |
| 14:46.22 | Bela|work | our strat is a bit weird |
| 14:46.35 | dru_ | we are using an altered strat as well |
| 14:46.47 | dru_ | becase we only take 2 tanks usually |
| 14:46.52 | Bela|work | we have a few resto shamans available so we stick them at the top of the stairs. Chain heal has a long range |
| 14:47.04 | Bela|work | so they can chain people up top, AND on the stairs |
| 14:47.13 | Bela|work | plus shamans are used to raid healing |
| 14:47.18 | ralfWORK | ugh thanks for reminding me, I gotta remember to make some nets |
| 14:47.22 | Bela|work | so they are better at keeping multiple people up |
| 14:47.52 | dru_ | nice, we're alliance so our shaman numbers with long term raid experience is a bit low |
| 14:48.11 | Bela|work | we are alliance too |
| 14:48.13 | ralfWORK | pfft |
| 14:48.20 | Bela|work | we just have good players playing shamans |
| 14:48.21 | Bela|work | like me |
| 14:49.12 | Bela|work | I don't really consider pre TBC to be valid as much anymore anyway. TBC raid experience is all I care about now |
| 14:49.31 | ralfWORK | thus far, I haven't been able to be convinced that pre-BC raid experience means shit |
| 14:50.03 | Bela|work | in fact, in my experience, the ones that come out and tell you they have been to Naxx and AQ40, probably haven't, or have and they are complete and total assholes |
| 14:50.09 | dru_ | we roll with one ranged DPS at each quadrant, one melee and one healer, then all the other dps on the inner ring with two kiters pulling the striders around the circle. |
| 14:50.23 | ralfWORK | I have had some pre TBC people that play good |
| 14:50.41 | Bela|work | we only use one kiter |
| 14:50.42 | ralfWORK | and I have some pre TBC people try to get shadowpriests to "pop out and heal someone if needed" |
| 14:50.46 | Gnarfoz | I don't ever want to go back to Vashj. :\ she's harder than any of the 4/5 hyjal 4/9 BT bosses we've downed so far :\ |
| 14:50.53 | Bela|work | if we can't dps that one down before #2 hits, there is a problem |
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| 14:50.59 | Bela|work | we have a shitload of dps though |
| 14:51.16 | dru_ | I have large preTBC group, but mny of us have been raiding together since pre-TBC so we have a evolved through TBC together |
| 14:51.25 | Bela|work | I think Kael is worse |
| 14:51.35 | Bela|work | Vashj just has a more random nature |
| 14:51.59 | dru_ | Vashj is a controlled chaos fight. |
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| 14:52.19 | sag_ich_nicht | Kael is way fucking easier than vashj |
| 14:52.20 | sag_ich_nicht | :> |
| 14:52.21 | Lopeppeppy | Controlling the chaos is the key. |
| 14:52.23 | sag_ich_nicht | (imho) |
| 14:52.32 | Lopeppeppy | We can't get Kael for the life of us, but Vashj was easy-peasey. |
| 14:52.35 | dru_ | Kael is a more controlled fight, but it's a harder individual fight |
| 14:53.02 | dru_ | Lopeppeppy: I think some of that stems from the group make up and if people 'listen' |
| 14:53.13 | zenzelezz | I suppose it depends on the guild |
| 14:53.21 | zenzelezz | we have less trouble with Kael than Vashj |
| 14:53.22 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, our problems on Kael always stem from not having enough casters versus melee DPS. |
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| 15:28.32 | dru_ | Lopeppeppy: got pulled into meeting, but your not having enough casters is a problem that is only going to get worse unless blizz makes majr changes in WotLK |
| 15:30.26 | Bela|work | whats wrong with casters? |
| 15:32.02 | dru_ | you mean other than the continuing trend downward in terms of DPS for many caster classes? |
| 15:32.29 | dru_ | or the 'ill effects' of balancing for pvp / arena |
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| 15:33.51 | dru_ | I don' know about other servers, but I was poking around at the number of 70's on my primary pve server and the number of casters has been declining, while the number of melee or melee capable has been increasing. |
| 15:34.06 | Industrial | Is there a level requirement on shield spikes? |
| 15:34.21 | Industrial | can I use a thorium shield spike at level 25? |
| 15:34.23 | dru_ | though warlocks have stayed fairly even. |
| 15:35.16 | dru_ | mages are way down, hunters are way down, priests are down, warriors, druids, paladins & shammies are all way way up |
| 15:35.19 | Industrial | (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=12645#comments) |
| 15:35.35 | dru_ | rogues have stayed about the same |
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| 15:36.33 | dru_ | (armory trolling FTW :-) ) |
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| 15:42.42 | wereHamster | Industrial, use as in apply to a shield? |
| 15:44.03 | Industrial | yeah it just worked |
| 15:44.28 | Industrial | traded it to a blacksmith and tthe applied it to my shield (non trade item) |
| 15:45.03 | Industrial | this means you can get a felsteel spike to any shield >:O? (its pretty expensive tho) |
| 15:45.09 | Industrial | pretty OP for prot pally hehe |
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| 15:45.35 | zenzelezz | perhaps you can; but it only procs when you block, and your chance isn't that big at low levels |
| 15:46.09 | Industrial | 34.96 with redoubt |
| 15:47.08 | Lopeppeppy | Redoubt rules. |
| 15:51.00 | mikma | Industrial: yeah. have you seen the pally's AoE tanking n+1 mobs while grinding -videos? |
| 15:51.30 | Lopeppeppy | Totally sweet, esp. with the Sporregar shield. |
| 15:51.40 | mikma | yes! |
| 15:51.42 | mikma | http://youtube.com/watch?v=kX2aY160LTA |
| 15:51.44 | Industrial | mikma: yes |
| 15:51.51 | Industrial | what sporregar shield? |
| 15:52.13 | mikma | the one with sporeggar rep |
| 15:52.41 | dylanm | Industrial: http://wowhead.com/?item=25828 |
| 15:53.01 | mikma | http://www.wowwiki.com/Petrified_Lichen_Guard |
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| 15:53.57 | Industrial | damn nice prov |
| 15:53.59 | Industrial | proc |
| 15:54.02 | sag_ich_nicht | ya |
| 15:54.35 | Industrial | my pal is 25 atm ^^ |
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| 16:07.16 | Cide | any tips for good psp games? |
| 16:08.01 | haste | patapon D: |
| 16:08.25 | dylanm | papapapapp |
| 16:09.01 | haste | patapatapata pon |
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| 16:14.46 | art3mis | god of war |
| 16:15.14 | art3mis | Cide: mode it to the open firmware |
| 16:15.20 | art3mis | and playall yer psx games ;P |
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| 16:17.14 | art3mis | http://www.consolespot.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=9 |
| 16:17.21 | art3mis | ^^ fun stuff for psp ;) |
| 16:20.30 | Industrial | get MoltenCore |
| 16:20.33 | Industrial | (tm) |
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| 16:36.00 | foxlit | oh wow |
| 16:36.11 | foxlit | They actually managed to break the graphics termination in .1 |
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| 16:40.53 | ckknight | graphics termination? |
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| 16:52.44 | foxlit | WoW doesn't exit properly |
| 16:59.50 | Duman | it's the graphics engine shutdown that's broken? |
| 16:59.56 | Duman | I thoguht people were seeing it was a sound engine issue |
| 17:02.19 | nevcairiel | it was |
| 17:02.19 | nevcairiel | before 2.4.1 |
| 17:02.19 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 17:02.38 | ralfWORK | hmm. so apparently the prince safe zones have been removed from KZ eh? |
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| 17:04.13 | Lopeppeppy | Yuppers. |
| 17:04.35 | zenzelezz | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/04/02/funny-pictures-momcat-try-2-lolspeak/ |
| 17:04.35 | kamdis | so, L2P? jk ;-) |
| 17:05.01 | wereHamster | for me, since like forever, the only reliable way to close wow was to `kill -9` |
| 17:05.50 | haste | I always use my <Caps Lock><Shift>C key binding to exit wow, since it kills the focused windows |
| 17:06.24 | Lopeppeppy | My cat looks like that all the time, zenzelezz... |
| 17:07.49 | zenzelezz | peppy: :-o |
| 17:10.45 | Lopeppeppy | She buries her head under her paws all the time when I raid, I totally embarass her with my subpar playstyle and relaxed approach. She's hardcore. |
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| 17:12.46 | Lunessa | ... station. |
| 17:14.13 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Lunessa-dear. *hug* |
| 17:14.34 | Lunessa | Hi hi |
| 17:14.55 | ralfWORK | kamdis: sorry was alt-tabbed out |
| 17:15.00 | ralfWORK | yea, l2p basically |
| 17:15.06 | kamdis | I was teasing. |
| 17:15.22 | ralfWORK | I know you were, but you're right |
| 17:15.48 | ralfWORK | I'm not gonna cry about the fact that it was removed |
| 17:15.59 | ralfWORK | I'm gonna cry about the fact that I have half a raid of r-tards |
| 17:16.22 | ralfWORK | that make me want to not lead raids :P |
| 17:17.55 | kamdis | Just plop a raid icon on yourself and have all ranged move with you |
| 17:18.02 | kamdis | :D |
| 17:18.15 | kamdis | Or are the melee the tards? |
| 17:20.32 | Lopeppeppy | Yes to both sometimes? |
| 17:20.39 | ralfWORK | little of column A, little of column B |
| 17:21.14 | ralfWORK | and little of Column C will pop up soon I'm sure: getting used to spotting them and coordinating that |
| 17:21.20 | zenzelezz | I must say, the best part about being the demon tank on Leotheras is not having to worry about killing your own demon |
| 17:21.28 | zenzelezz | or rather, was, since we don't go there anymore |
| 17:21.30 | Lopeppeppy | Yes... that's an advantage. |
| 17:24.34 | ralfWORK | kamdis: specifically the tank is tarded |
| 17:24.40 | ralfWORK | I can see it now |
| 17:24.54 | kamdis | Well that's not good ralf. |
| 17:25.00 | ralfWORK | "move left" then he'll move to his right "oh I thought you meant your left" |
| 17:25.06 | kamdis | haha |
| 17:25.07 | kamdis | well |
| 17:25.09 | ralfWORK | and the vent chat will be full of his shitty excuses |
| 17:25.14 | kamdis | we use the door as reference |
| 17:25.14 | ralfWORK | as per usual |
| 17:25.28 | ralfWORK | ya |
| 17:25.29 | kamdis | move away from the door!! |
| 17:25.57 | zenzelezz | I wouldn't attest that to the tank only; his view is usually rather blocked so it can be hard to know where the raid is |
| 17:26.02 | ralfWORK | move away from the big FIRE INFERNAL |
| 17:26.11 | kamdis | well |
| 17:26.14 | zenzelezz | thanks to the stupid "omg you can't zoom out" feature of the Karazhan geometry |
| 17:26.28 | kamdis | all he can really see is Prince's ... "no no" region probably |
| 17:26.46 | ralfWORK | zenzelezz: naw, it's just going to be a comedy of errors with him, because that's what it always is |
| 17:27.21 | zenzelezz | if you're talking about your specific tank, I won't argue |
| 17:27.54 | zenzelezz | we solved it by using east/west/north/south (on a non-rotating minimap) |
| 17:28.00 | ralfWORK | I could use n/s/e/w |
| 17:28.02 | zenzelezz | but that doesn't work if your tank still sucks :-p |
| 17:28.14 | ralfWORK | but it'll take him too long to read which way is north |
| 17:28.23 | Lunessa | Actually on the Prince in Kara we had problems with getting the bear-tank to be able to see where to go. We just ended up naming each wall and telling her which one to run to. |
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| 17:28.49 | ralfWORK | the safe zone methode we've used is actually pretty challenging for him! |
| 17:29.00 | zenzelezz | any fight against non-humanoid bosses where you must tank him against a wall is hell for the tank if he has to move |
| 17:29.04 | ralfWORK | cause he can get knocked back into a notch in the wall and be out of LOS for the healers! |
| 17:30.11 | kamdis | aye |
| 17:31.08 | ralfWORK | I'm surprised bear boss gets done |
| 17:31.55 | ralfWORK | meh. who knows. we don't do KZ anymore, so it'll likely be a damn PUG that I get to "enjoy" prince |
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| 17:34.47 | Lunessa | I am the sad panda that my cleverly written and lengthy reply to the Xperl asshat didn't generate any responses. |
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| 17:37.10 | art3mis | its about xperl |
| 17:37.14 | art3mis | what did you expect |
| 17:37.24 | Seerah | where is this at, Lunessa? |
| 17:37.25 | art3mis | thats like a long post about the Pinto |
| 17:37.59 | Lunessa | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5720382124&sid=1 |
| 17:38.38 | kamdis | I was going to comment to you here, Lunessa, but you weren't on yet and I forgot. |
| 17:38.48 | kamdis | Thank you BTW :) |
| 17:38.54 | Lunessa | You're welcome. :) |
| 17:39.18 | Lunessa | I didn't get to play WoW at all yesterday. :( I hope I do today. |
| 17:39.28 | ralfWORK | why not? |
| 17:39.54 | kamdis | Same, Lunessa. |
| 17:40.25 | Lunessa | I moved recently. I now have a 55 min commute. I got home last night to discover I left my house keys in the office. |
| 17:40.32 | ralfWORK | aww crap |
| 17:40.35 | ralfWORK | I've done that before |
| 17:40.40 | ralfWORK | cept I'm like 15m away :( |
| 17:40.41 | Lunessa | I had to drive back to the office and back home. That left me no time to play. |
| 17:41.21 | pastamancer | Lunessa: car keys on on the same keychain? |
| 17:41.45 | Lunessa | They are NOW. |
| 17:41.55 | pastamancer | I have one keychain to rule them all |
| 17:42.08 | Lunessa | Heh. I need to get one of those retracting clips. |
| 17:42.14 | pastamancer | then again, I have enough keys to pass as a janitor |
| 17:42.26 | Lunessa | Haha |
| 17:42.33 | pastamancer | I like the carabiner-style keyrings |
| 17:42.55 | Lunessa | 3 for work, 2 for the apartment, two for the truck/lockbox and the key-fob. |
| 17:43.31 | alestane | I've seen people jump after silly amounts of time before (under five minutes comes to mind), but that's the first time I've ever seen someone bump under an hour with a "Stop ignoring this." (What's the magic word?) Who does he think he is? More importantly, who does he think WE are? |
| 17:43.47 | zenzelezz | "We are actually working on converting Blizzard code to use self instead of this, but it's for the expansion. I definitely recommend authors start using self, since this and argN are deprecated and will go away eventually." |
| 17:43.49 | zenzelezz | hehe |
| 17:44.04 | kamdis | alestane: exactly |
| 17:44.12 | Lunessa | alestane: Yeah. Wait till you get further. |
| 17:44.19 | alestane | Oh, I read it already. |
| 17:44.19 | kamdis | It was like trying to reason with a 5 year old having a temper tantrum |
| 17:44.32 | alestane | But I might as well do what I'm famous for. |
| 17:44.57 | kamdis | I love how he completely ignored Peppy, despite the green text |
| 17:45.14 | kamdis | And twice no less. |
| 17:45.16 | alestane | i.e. give people who don''t deserve it help they can't understand. |
| 17:45.22 | kamdis | NO ONE PUTS PEPPY IN A CORNER! |
| 17:45.24 | Lunessa | Haha. |
| 17:45.49 | Duman | heh |
| 17:46.01 | Lunessa | I explained the problem to him as rationally and simply as I could without cranking open the AddOn and reading the code. Which I was disinclined to do. |
| 17:46.39 | alestane | I don't intend to read the addon either. But there's a quickfix hack. |
| 17:47.27 | kamdis | If he's actually still reading the thread, he'll probably come in and use your post as an example of how the rest of us are all unhelpful morons, alestane. |
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| 17:47.38 | kamdis | So thanks in advance :P |
| 17:48.32 | pastamancer | which thread is this? I need some comedy with my lunch |
| 17:48.36 | kergoth | anyone know of an addon to move/manipulate the raidwarning frame? or the UIErrorsFrame? |
| 17:48.36 | alestane | Actually, I'm hoping he'll screw up trying to carry it out and bork XPerl badly enough to crash WoW. |
| 17:49.25 | kamdis | kergoth: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5720382124&sid=1 |
| 17:49.44 | kamdis | alestane: that would make my day. |
| 17:49.46 | Lunessa | *chuckle* |
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| 17:50.48 | Seerah | hehe, thanks for that read :) Poor Lunessa went through all of that effort |
| 17:51.09 | Lunessa | And alestane is actually going to give him code. |
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| 17:54.19 | alestane | I thought about saying that he is to addon development what Ann Coulter is to politics, but I haven't tested the solution. |
| 17:55.10 | Seerah | lol |
| 17:55.23 | Seerah | now... do you actually think he will go change that line? |
| 17:55.26 | Seerah | :) |
| 17:56.15 | alestane | I remember one person who came to the forum with a question, got several "It's in the stickies" responses from forum luminaries, kept saying "anyone?" and, when Troodi served him an answer, quoted it and said, "Now see, this, this is what help looks like. I came here for a fish, not a fishing lesson." |
| 17:57.15 | Lunessa | Heh - way to go Kamdis - you telly rushy |
| 17:57.35 | kamdis | I tried to be nice-ish about it |
| 17:57.38 | foxlit | error(message, level) |
| 17:57.43 | kamdis | I took out some insults before I posted |
| 17:57.46 | foxlit | level = 1 == function that called me? |
| 17:58.15 | Lunessa | alestane: Which is why I give out fish only to those who ask nicely and when I'm in a good mood. Self-propulsion is better than jet-propulsion. |
| 17:58.36 | alestane | Oh, I thought he was an @$$ too. |
| 17:59.00 | Seerah | I remember that thread, alestane |
| 17:59.28 | alestane | Watterson's Calvin once observed, "I wish I could just take a pill to be perfect and push a button to have everything I need." |
| 17:59.33 | Lunessa | alestane: *chuckle* that would work, but... unintended results should be hilarious. |
| 17:59.34 | Seerah | I went and quoted a sticky in the xperl thread!! O.O |
| 18:00.23 | alestane | Hobbes' response is, "The American dream lives on." |
| 18:01.06 | alestane | Lunessa: What would work? My proffered hack? |
| 18:01.47 | alestane | I'm hoping he counts 2158 lines in Notepad looking for it. |
| 18:02.01 | alestane | Or 2518, or whatever it was. |
| 18:02.43 | Seerah | lol |
| 18:03.05 | Seerah | He'll get to about 1k, then lose track and have to start all over |
| 18:03.16 | Seerah | or worse, he'll have line-wrap on |
| 18:03.25 | alestane | The man (I'm presuming) brought one of the most asinine attitudes I've ever seen in that forum. He's on his own from here on out. |
| 18:04.36 | kamdis | I don't think he's a "man". Child, I'm guessing. |
| 18:04.45 | kamdis | But one never knows. |
| 18:06.03 | alestane | I would guess he's within 3 years of 18 either way, based on the language he uses. |
| 18:06.09 | Lunessa | Yes, the proposed hack will be fun. |
| 18:06.45 | alestane | I actually saw a statistic that indicated that out of 64000 WoW players surveyed, only 34% used any addons at all. |
| 18:06.47 | Cairenn | ummm, just read the lastest posts on the incgamers thread on the blizz forum ... I don't remember this actually going down like this ... "you are wrong on all counts here, we did not mirror any Ace files, but linked to the files on the WoWAce site, sending our users to the WoWAce site" ... weren't they actually hosting them? |
| 18:06.57 | Lunessa | I expect there's more than one place where "rank' is important, and an empty value will be fun. |
| 18:07.23 | Lunessa | Cairenn: I believe the were linking not hosting. |
| 18:07.31 | Lunessa | But I can't be positive. |
| 18:07.32 | alestane | Or I could have told him to insert "rank=rank or ''" on the line before. |
| 18:07.45 | alestane | Doesn't that constitute stealing bandwidth? |
| 18:07.52 | Lunessa | It does. |
| 18:08.20 | kamdis | I was under the impression the hosted them, but then reverted to linking when the situation got exposed. |
| 18:08.27 | kamdis | But I'm nto positive. |
| 18:08.55 | Gngsk | any idea where I can find an example of how to use SecureAnchorButtonTemplate? |
| 18:08.59 | alestane | So either they were redistributing without permission, or they were stealing bandwidth. |
| 18:09.05 | kamdis | Yes. |
| 18:10.27 | alestane | Gngsk: My addon Demonomicon on alestane.wowinterface.com uses an anchor button. |
| 18:10.50 | Gngsk | splendid, I'll check it out |
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| 18:16.37 | alestane | Lunessa: Sadly, unforeseen consequences look unlikely. The local "rank" is never used after that line. 'local match = name.."_"..rank.."_"..buff' |
| 18:16.50 | Lunessa | bummer. |
| 18:17.52 | Lunessa | As I said, I was disinclined to go read the code for him. |
| 18:19.24 | alestane | However, I suspect that what will happen is he'll stop getting "Interface/AddOns/XPerl/XPerl.lua:2518: attempt to concatenate local 'rank' (a nil value)"...instead he'll get "Interface/AddOns/XPerl/XPerl.lua:2524: attempt to concatenate local 'rank2' (a nil value)" |
| 18:19.53 | Cairenn | ah ha, found it: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968233148&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 18:21.13 | kamdis | wow, pre-green cog and alestane in the first 5 posts |
| 18:21.28 | Josh_Borke | ~emulate Josh_Borke |
| 18:21.29 | purl | ACTION hugs Cairenn |
| 18:21.35 | alestane | Lunessa, weren't you the one who responded to me once saying "I fear you are wasting your time being logical and concise."? |
| 18:21.39 | Cairenn | hugs Josh_Borke |
| 18:22.35 | Lunessa | Not those words exactly... but something along those lines. I'm optimistic about individuals, but pessimistic about humans in the collective. |
| 18:23.15 | Cairenn | People suck. Many persons are fine, but people suck. |
| 18:23.41 | alestane | Some gnome was petitioning Blizzard to incorporate customizable bars and unit frames into the default UI because "you know everyone uses them anyway". |
| 18:24.41 | alestane | I told him that Blizzard did include a customization engine for bars, unit frames, and everyone else. |
| 18:24.50 | alestane | everything* |
| 18:24.55 | alestane | It's called "Lua". |
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| 18:27.00 | schnoggo_ | dang... Rushter is absolutely committed to destroying his addon site, isn't he? Up until five months ago or so, that was my primary distribution site, but he's done nothing but generate bad press lately. And traffic.... |
| 18:27.23 | Cairenn | yup |
| 18:27.24 | schnoggo_ | they fell off a cliff sometime in march... http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details/instantaction.com?site0=incgamers.com&site1=wowace.com&site2=curse.com&site3=wowinterface.com&y=r&z=3&h=300&w=610&u%5B%5D=incgamers.com&u%5B%5D=wowace.com&u%5B%5D=curse.com&u%5B%5D=wowinterface.com&x=2008-04-03T18%3A30%3A37.000Z&check=www.alexa.com&signature=GmylgKp7nJpN6mymMdHBXYPG5pI%3D&range=3m&size=Medium |
| 18:27.34 | schnoggo_ | did that get split? :( |
| 18:27.59 | schnoggo_ | http://tinyurl.com/3amkkk |
| 18:28.13 | foxlit | wowinterface isn't on the graph? |
| 18:28.24 | kamdis | It is |
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| 18:28.29 | kamdis | It's turquoise |
| 18:28.34 | enum | anyone know how to get a targets id? |
| 18:28.44 | foxlit | wasn't, but something refreshed |
| 18:28.45 | enum | for example: an NPC Trainer |
| 18:28.46 | alestane | And I notice they didn't enjoy the "post-patch" peak that the other sites did. |
| 18:28.53 | Seerah | wth is up with that huge rise? |
| 18:28.56 | foxlit | overall, it seems to follow curse closely? |
| 18:28.57 | alestane | UnitGUID("target") |
| 18:29.04 | foxlit | /ace |
| 18:29.05 | enum | alestane: thanks |
| 18:29.35 | alestane | Seerah: I believe that huge rise is 2.4 coming out. |
| 18:30.06 | alestane | i.e., why Curse collapses every time a content patch comes out. |
| 18:30.18 | Seerah | *nod* |
| 18:30.24 | Seerah | I don't see wowi's line |
| 18:30.28 | art3mis | curse collapses because guill doesnt know what hes doing ;P |
| 18:30.36 | art3mis | Seerah: click the 1y thingy |
| 18:30.40 | alestane | As their traffic jumps from 700 to over 2000 (unspecified units). |
| 18:30.57 | art3mis | itll redraw and show it properly |
| 18:31.04 | Seerah | I had to enable scripts for it to look right I guess |
| 18:31.17 | Seerah | now it looks completely different :P |
| 18:31.39 | art3mis | heh yup |
| 18:31.45 | art3mis | the tiny url show incgames as HUGE |
| 18:31.52 | art3mis | a refresh shows curse as HUEG |
| 18:31.58 | art3mis | HUGE even |
| 18:32.04 | Seerah | yeah, that's what I saw first, too, art3mis |
| 18:32.30 | ralfWORK | curse sucks |
| 18:32.33 | art3mis | heh io assumed most of that was to go look at rusher being a dumbass with his cracked java app ;P |
| 18:34.23 | Esamynn | lol |
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| 18:37.40 | alestane | Okay, this, this is nearly priceless. I'm on a site that posts projects for freelance IT pros. |
| 18:37.51 | wereHamster | what bad press did incgamers generate lately (besides their usual malware-infested addon downloader) |
| 18:37.54 | alestane | A project was just posted. |
| 18:38.04 | alestane | "I wanted to know if you can design a site similar to Myspace and about how much it would cost. |
| 18:38.11 | ralfWORK | rofl |
| 18:38.13 | alestane | "The idea I have is a great idea, its a spin off of myspace. No other site will be on the internet like what i am wanting to make. |
| 18:38.19 | Lunessa | alestane: Rent-a-c oder? |
| 18:38.29 | alestane | Guru.com |
| 18:38.58 | alestane | But I direct your attention to the line above. basic rhetoric = fail. |
| 18:39.17 | ralfWORK | I used to work for a place like that |
| 18:40.51 | alestane | No other site on the internet will be like the myspace spinoff he wants to make...except, of course, MySpace and its numerous other imitators. |
| 18:43.19 | art3mis | heh |
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| 18:47.20 | Cairenn | wereHamster: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5720382511&sid=1 |
| 18:48.09 | Seerah | their site has been down all day |
| 18:49.59 | ralfWORK | stupid question; do rawrbears need expertise? |
| 18:50.21 | ralfWORK | or rather, is it a stat that helps bare droods? |
| 18:51.56 | wereHamster | why don't they make their app (UIC, or its successor) opensource? |
| 18:52.28 | ralfWORK | opensores is from da dabil |
| 18:57.02 | art3mis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgM5qJUrbN4 |
| 18:59.29 | art3mis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avSoKXtaA68 <-- oooooooooooooookay |
| 19:00.54 | NightHawkAtWork | ralfWORK: as much as warriors need it, why would it be otherwise? |
| 19:01.00 | wereHamster | how do you find these clips? and why? |
| 19:01.22 | ralfWORK | NightHawkAtWork: cause druids aren't warriors :) |
| 19:01.36 | NightHawkAtWork | but they both still use melee attacks as their primary source of threat generation. :P |
| 19:01.38 | ralfWORK | I know that weapon attack speeds are factored out for bears |
| 19:02.04 | art3mis | wereHamster: randomness ftw ;P |
| 19:02.06 | ralfWORK | didn't know if there's any attack table changes for bears |
| 19:02.18 | NightHawkAtWork | "factored out"? |
| 19:02.19 | art3mis | the first one i actually remembered from a while back |
| 19:02.29 | NightHawkAtWork | do you mean, "set to a constant, regardless of the weapon being used?" :P |
| 19:02.30 | art3mis | and i think thats gonna be my new rickroll ;P |
| 19:02.42 | ralfWORK | NightHawkAtWork: ignored |
| 19:02.43 | ralfWORK | yes |
| 19:02.47 | NightHawkAtWork | its not ignored |
| 19:02.56 | NightHawkAtWork | its just the weapon isn't waht determines the speed. :P |
| 19:02.59 | ralfWORK | keep being pedantic |
| 19:03.07 | ralfWORK | the weapon attack speed on the weapon is ignored |
| 19:03.42 | NightHawkAtWork | but that really implies no changes to the combat table, though |
| 19:04.03 | art3mis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvDMlk3kSYg |
| 19:04.13 | ralfWORK | I did preface this with "stupid question" |
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| 19:05.58 | kamdis | Hai |Jelly| |
| 19:06.10 | |Jelly| | Hello |
| 19:06.22 | ralfWORK | idk, for all I know, paws can't be dodged or whatever |
| 19:06.35 | ralfWORK | <-- not a druid, thus the questions |
| 19:06.39 | Cairenn | Hey |Jelly| |
| 19:06.52 | |Jelly| | Hey Cairenn |
| 19:09.45 | Esamynn | ralfWORK: yes, expertise is useful for Feral Druids, no, Cats & Bears don't even really use their equipped weapon at all, that is why procs on weapons are useless to Feral Druids |
| 19:10.10 | ralfWORK | kk, thanks |
| 19:12.22 | AbsoRayne | @____@ |
| 19:12.33 | kamdis | Hi Rayne |
| 19:13.15 | AbsoRayne | Hiya |
| 19:13.21 | AbsoRayne | Kamdis, wts kittens PST |
| 19:13.24 | foxlit | Did LibThreat suddently lose the reset-threat functionality? |
| 19:13.42 | Cairenn | kittahz! |
| 19:13.58 | foxlit | ninjakittahz |
| 19:14.01 | foxlit | that hate turkeys! |
| 19:14.27 | foxlit | Ah, no, nevermind, /omen clear |
| 19:14.41 | AbsoRayne | Hyjal tonight...im like...kinda not sure if Im excited or not |
| 19:15.14 | ralfWORK | first time there? |
| 19:15.25 | AbsoRayne | Yeah |
| 19:15.29 | foxlit | 2.4 killed Hyjal general chat |
| 19:15.41 | ralfWORK | what's not to be excited? |
| 19:15.44 | AbsoRayne | And were only bringing out top people...and even our top people fuck around too much |
| 19:15.45 | foxlit | used to be respectable... now it's "lolzguyswedownedwinterchill" |
| 19:15.50 | ralfWORK | ahh |
| 19:16.22 | ralfWORK | foxlit: I'd say the same thing for kz general... but it's always retarded on my server :P |
| 19:16.22 | AbsoRayne | None of our Pali Tanks are geared enough for it either, which makes matters even more fun |
| 19:16.36 | ralfWORK | AbsoRayne: you have more than 1 pally tank? ;) |
| 19:16.52 | foxlit | [psst, real raiders do it with resurrection sickness!] |
| 19:17.00 | ralfWORK | lawl |
| 19:17.25 | Esamynn | ~poke foxlit |
| 19:17.26 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind foxlit, pokes foxlit repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 19:17.26 | NightHawkAtWork | as long as you have ~3-4 competant tanks, of any class, you should be able to handle it. |
| 19:17.28 | AbsoRayne | ralfWORK: 2, actually |
| 19:17.44 | AbsoRayne | Both, ironicly, at the same gear level |
| 19:17.48 | ralfWORK | bah |
| 19:18.47 | NightHawkAtWork | I'm not even sure how useful a second prot pally would be there. |
| 19:18.47 | Esamynn | we also have 2 Paladin Tanks, one long time member, one brand new one, both pretty good |
| 19:18.47 | Esamynn | very useful for the Ghouls |
| 19:18.47 | NightHawkAtWork | we've done it with a single pally tank, without any issue |
| 19:18.47 | AbsoRayne | I like them for any type of add fight |
| 19:18.54 | NightHawkAtWork | he can more or less tank any number of ghouls/fiends/stalkers with no problems |
| 19:19.07 | AbsoRayne | Though my tank with his Thunderfury Stick did pretty much as good as them on alar add tanking |
| 19:19.09 | kamdis | Rayne: my dog would wring a kitteh's neck in 2 seconds flat |
| 19:19.29 | AbsoRayne | kamdis: Kitty! :( |
| 19:19.38 | NightHawkAtWork | problem is, pallys kinda suck at handling the banshees and necros |
| 19:19.54 | kamdis | my puppy > any kitty |
| 19:20.02 | kamdis | but kitties are okay too |
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| 19:20.36 | AbsoRayne | kamdis: You LIE! My kitties are awesome! They purr like little retards and love without second though! |
| 19:20.38 | AbsoRayne | Thought* |
| 19:20.54 | ralfWORK | our kittehs are shits |
| 19:21.01 | ralfWORK | they piss and shit everywhere basically |
| 19:21.12 | AbsoRayne | God I hate my server |
| 19:21.12 | kamdis | Rayne: http://i32.tinypic.com/2ahbkoz.jpg |
| 19:21.23 | kamdis | she pwns your kittehs! |
| 19:21.28 | AbsoRayne | I was wondering how long it would take someone to make b A n K a I |
| 19:21.39 | ralfWORK | AbsoRayne: 2s flat |
| 19:21.47 | AbsoRayne | Since we already have a guild named S h I n I g A m I |
| 19:21.59 | ralfWORK | oh |
| 19:22.10 | kamdis | http://i25.tinypic.com/a108eb.jpg better pic |
| 19:22.28 | ralfWORK | kamdis: ya, looks pretty vicious! |
| 19:22.28 | kamdis | quits posting dog pictures now. |
| 19:22.29 | dylanm | Cute! |
| 19:22.52 | kamdis | ralfWORK: you wouldn't think, but she hates cats. |
| 19:22.56 | kamdis | and strangers |
| 19:23.01 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 19:23.04 | Cairenn | awwww, puppy!!!!! |
| 19:23.05 | ralfWORK | that's funny |
| 19:23.13 | ralfWORK | our rat terrier hates squirells |
| 19:23.19 | ralfWORK | and *other* cats |
| 19:23.19 | kamdis | Cairenn: :-D |
| 19:23.26 | ralfWORK | likes our cats fine though |
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| 19:24.15 | AbsoRayne | Now to do what I do with all my UIs |
| 19:24.26 | AbsoRayne | Sit here for 2 hours and debate if its 'done' or not. |
| 19:24.33 | kamdis | pic? |
| 19:24.41 | kamdis | or is it mostly unchanged form last I saw? |
| 19:25.00 | AbsoRayne | a few minor |
| 19:25.01 | AbsoRayne | http://www.freewebs.com/absorayne/WoWScrnShot%5F040208%5F234828.png |
| 19:25.15 | AbsoRayne | Got the DogTags I wanted for HP and Power |
| 19:26.14 | kamdis | Nice. Omen looks great too. |
| 19:27.12 | AbsoRayne | It bothers me that no matter what I do, Pitbulls always off alignment by one fucking pixel |
| 19:27.17 | AbsoRayne | and I sit there lik |
| 19:27.17 | AbsoRayne | e |
| 19:27.20 | AbsoRayne | AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH |
| 19:27.37 | kamdis | stop obssessing imo |
| 19:27.49 | AbsoRayne | Cant help it |
| 19:27.51 | kamdis | no one notices but you, and possibly Nitelily |
| 19:28.05 | |Jelly| | easier said than done :| |
| 19:28.12 | kamdis | I know |
| 19:28.14 | kamdis | Still |
| 19:28.21 | kamdis | No one who's going to DL it will ever notice |
| 19:30.01 | AbsoRayne | Suppose youre right |
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| 19:30.23 | AbsoRayne | like I said though...just have to debate if its done. |
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| 19:34.09 | AbsoRayne | damnit |
| 19:34.21 | AbsoRayne | where are all my good mages, and why arent they signing up for Hyjal!!!! |
| 19:34.33 | AbsoRayne | |Jelly|: Server XFer, lets go |
| 19:35.07 | |Jelly| | ...? |
| 19:35.10 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 19:35.22 | |Jelly| | !c us burning legion aniwaizle |
| 19:35.35 | |Jelly| | zomg! B0rk3! |
| 19:35.36 | AbsoRayne | Not working? |
| 19:36.03 | |Jelly| | Imagine a level 8 mage. Now imagine that's my highest level mage. :P |
| 19:36.20 | ralfWORK | if only shadowpriests had an aoe! |
| 19:36.29 | AbsoRayne | What happened to your 70? |
| 19:36.40 | AbsoRayne | !c us kil'jaeden Absolutrayne |
| 19:36.52 | AbsoRayne | 16K Unbuffed <3 |
| 19:36.52 | |Jelly| | My 70 ... Priests? Hunter? Shaman? |
| 19:37.00 | AbsoRayne | Any of them? |
| 19:37.09 | |Jelly| | None of them are mages. :P |
| 19:37.23 | AbsoRayne | Ill take your priest too, just Server XFer |
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| 19:37.43 | |Jelly| | You wanna pvp or something? lol |
| 19:37.52 | |Jelly| | Jelly = BE <3 |
| 19:38.06 | AbsoRayne | Pffffft...Belfs are Alliance, dont belong on the Horde |
| 19:38.12 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 19:38.17 | ralfWORK | hahaha |
| 19:39.12 | zenzelezz | the reply to a comment on wowhead (or was it thott?) about that item that turns you into a BE amused me... "what happens if you use it as a BE?" "it turns you straight" |
| 19:39.36 | ralfWORK | heh |
| 19:39.44 | ralfWORK | not like NEs are very manly |
| 19:39.50 | ralfWORK | god we have too many NEs in our guild |
| 19:40.04 | NightHawkAtWork | huh.. http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080402-apple-passes-wal-mart-now-1-music-retailer-in-us.html |
| 19:40.13 | AbsoRayne | waits for a good UI to show up on the UI Forum thread... |
| 19:40.40 | kamdis | watches AbsoRayne age and die while waiting. |
| 19:40.53 | AbsoRayne | kamdis: Harsh |
| 19:41.09 | kamdis | Meh |
| 19:41.11 | AbsoRayne | Nah, theres occasionally a good one here or there...just lately its been 'hey whatever' |
| 19:41.41 | kamdis | I guess I'm just disillusioned, not that I have the drive to go design something decent myself. |
| 19:41.49 | kamdis | so I should probably shut up. |
| 19:42.07 | AbsoRayne | Nah |
| 19:42.24 | Lunessa | Too many men have failed before... Whatever you do, don't pay the Ferryman! Don't even fix a price. Don't pay the Ferryman until he gets you to the other side! |
| 19:42.27 | AbsoRayne | Im just mirroring my old designs and changing a few vital visual things. |
| 19:42.35 | AbsoRayne | Basicly, like polishing a turd. |
| 19:42.47 | ralfWORK | I'm pretty bad at UI |
| 19:43.30 | kamdis | Except your old UIs aren't turds. |
| 19:43.34 | kamdis | so, there's that |
| 19:43.47 | AbsoRayne | You just want me to update Boxes. :P |
| 19:44.03 | Lunessa | well... |
| 19:44.16 | kamdis | haha, not really. |
| 19:44.32 | kamdis | I didn't realize how many panels that had though - jebus |
| 19:45.46 | Lunessa | LOL -- " And no matter how many internet condoms you wear, you'll get a CTD (computer transmitted disease)" |
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| 19:47.16 | AbsoRayne | kamdis: I actually might update it today...I have about 4 hours or so before we go to Hyjal, and nothing to do |
| 19:47.17 | AbsoRayne | lol |
| 19:47.27 | kamdis | Heh |
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| 19:47.50 | kamdis | I want your free time. Gimme. |
| 19:47.57 | AbsoRayne | No you dont |
| 19:48.11 | AbsoRayne | I only have so much lately because im in Canada, without the paperwork to get a job. |
| 19:48.31 | Lunessa | Your clothes, your boots and the keys to your motorcycle. Give them to me. |
| 19:49.42 | AbsoRayne | The new Sevendust album sounds great so far |
| 19:49.47 | AbsoRayne | <3 leaked albums |
| 19:50.10 | Lunessa | My office-mate is playing an internet radio station that plays "the bottom 40" from the 80s. Songs that weren't big hits... I'm totally having flashbacks. |
| 19:50.12 | zenzelezz | why? The music sounds better before release? |
| 19:52.11 | NightHawkAtWork | zenzelezz: it does, piracy is scientifically proven to increase the quality of the music your listening to |
| 19:53.40 | AbsoRayne | I wonder if the ML DogTag is still broken... |
| 19:53.51 | AbsoRayne | tried |
| 19:53.53 | AbsoRayne | tries* |
| 19:55.04 | kamdis | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5720423108&sid=1 :-( |
| 19:55.14 | AbsoRayne | I saw it |
| 19:55.21 | AbsoRayne | and im totally ignoring it. |
| 19:55.22 | kamdis | wtf is that? |
| 19:55.24 | kamdis | me too |
| 19:55.28 | kamdis | except here |
| 19:55.43 | kamdis | lets hope elloria et al do the same |
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| 19:56.26 | AbsoRayne | Nah, they wont...theyre falling into quite the trap on that one. |
| 19:57.07 | kamdis | sighs. |
| 19:58.00 | AbsoRayne | YAY IT WORKS \o/ |
| 19:58.07 | AbsoRayne | disables the ugly ML icon |
| 19:58.40 | AbsoRayne | [(if IsMasterLooter then "(ML)")] ftw |
| 19:59.06 | Cairenn | curious as to who that is |
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| 20:01.42 | AbsoRayne | Hmm? |
| 20:03.14 | Cairenn | the thread kamdis linked |
| 20:03.23 | AbsoRayne | Oh |
| 20:03.32 | AbsoRayne | Probably someone looking to start a trollfest |
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| 20:06.16 | AbsoRayne | Ill give it about 5-6 hours before Hal or Saeto say something in that thread. |
| 20:06.30 | AbsoRayne | and as a flame at the OP |
| 20:06.36 | AbsoRayne | Any other guesses? |
| 20:06.50 | kamdis | less, assuming they are still around the forums |
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| 20:07.15 | kamdis | I give it the same time before all the Atal/Elloria group starts posting all their compilations |
| 20:08.10 | AbsoRayne | I should post Boxes for giggles. |
| 20:08.55 | kamdis | don't you dare post in that thread! |
| 20:08.59 | kamdis | :P |
| 20:09.07 | kamdis | at least not until it gets snarky |
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| 20:09.18 | AbsoRayne | haha |
| 20:09.24 | AbsoRayne | alright I wont, I promise |
| 20:09.26 | kamdis | Oh, I know. How long to Exclamator post? |
| 20:09.28 | Duman | which thread is this? |
| 20:09.45 | Duman | scrolls up |
| 20:09.45 | AbsoRayne | kamdis: Notice someones reporting every single one of his posts? |
| 20:09.45 | kamdis | the ui competition thread |
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| 20:09.48 | kamdis | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5720423108&sid=1 |
| 20:09.50 | kamdis | no i didn't |
| 20:10.04 | AbsoRayne | Yeah, all his posts in the new Post Your UI are reported |
| 20:10.06 | Duman | oh, hmm |
| 20:10.20 | kamdis | It's probably his nemesis |
| 20:10.51 | kamdis | I have to say, the Post Your UI threads have become better than Days of Our Lives |
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| 20:11.31 | AbsoRayne | I try so hard not to respond to alot of it, but Exclamators just a blatant asshat, I have to sometimes. |
| 20:11.48 | AbsoRayne | IE: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5687411058&sid=1&pageNo=7#125 |
| 20:12.09 | kamdis | Yeah, I laughed at that one |
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| 20:13.16 | kamdis | I hate to break it to him but no one responds with "i'm so butt hurt right" unless they are in fact so butt hurt |
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| 20:14.48 | Duman | haha |
| 20:14.57 | AbsoRayne | kamdis: True |
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| 20:17.52 | kergoth | damnit, something keeps fucking up my game, escape won topen the menu, etc |
| 20:18.06 | sag_ich_nicht | btw. |
| 20:18.17 | AbsoRayne | kergoth: Do you play a hunter? |
| 20:18.19 | sag_ich_nicht | Overview mode in Omen can crash your client with an Out of Memory error |
| 20:18.21 | sag_ich_nicht | fyi |
| 20:18.22 | kergoth | AbsoRayne: yep |
| 20:18.32 | AbsoRayne | 70?\ |
| 20:18.35 | kergoth | yep |
| 20:18.52 | AbsoRayne | Do you use that dumb auto / steady / kill command macro? |
| 20:19.31 | AbsoRayne | Is that a yes? |
| 20:19.49 | kergoth | no |
| 20:19.52 | kergoth | i'm manually weaving rihg tnow |
| 20:20.01 | kergoth | just a kc + cast steady macro |
| 20:20.24 | Cairenn | guys - just as a heads up - a bunch of you may be getting a PM on WoWI from a person from Future France, working on a PC Jeux special issue about WoW |
| 20:20.42 | Tem | neat |
| 20:20.42 | AbsoRayne | Run around and shoot something until KC procs, and use it, that should fix it. |
| 20:20.53 | AbsoRayne | Kill Command likes to lock up like that, and make things not work. |
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| 20:22.20 | kergoth | AbsoRayne: thats... really weird |
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| 20:22.45 | AbsoRayne | kergoth: Its the macros fault. Normally id tell you to learn to play your class, but im in a good mood today. :P |
| 20:23.27 | kergoth | you're welcome to tell me that, and i'll tell you to go fuck yourself |
| 20:23.36 | ralfWORK | rofl |
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| 20:24.16 | AbsoRayne | kergoth: Fair enough. |
| 20:24.44 | AbsoRayne | I enjoy telling that to hunters looking for shot macros. |
| 20:24.56 | AbsoRayne | How hard is it to think and press 4-5 buttons, seriously, come on now. |
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| 20:31.55 | kamdis | It's not hard, Rayne. I can do it and have done it on my Hunter, but I still like the macros. /shrug |
| 20:32.11 | kamdis | And you can tell me to L2P too if you like. |
| 20:32.13 | kamdis | :) |
| 20:32.17 | AbsoRayne | Only macro I have is an MD Macro |
| 20:32.23 | AbsoRayne | Cause it has silly faces on it |
| 20:32.33 | kamdis | What about trinkets? |
| 20:32.40 | Josh_Borke | hey you guys, ban wobin |
| 20:32.48 | kergoth | i ran out of character specific macro slots a while back |
| 20:32.50 | AbsoRayne | kamdis: Hotkeyed |
| 20:32.51 | kergoth | using them all |
| 20:32.53 | Lunessa | ZOMG... anyone who uses macros needs 2 L2P! |
| 20:32.57 | Lunessa | :P |
| 20:33.01 | kamdis | L2FP! |
| 20:33.05 | kamdis | grins. |
| 20:33.06 | ralfWORK | macros and addons are crutches |
| 20:33.21 | ralfWORK | also, so are computers for that matter |
| 20:33.31 | kamdis | and brains! |
| 20:33.32 | kamdis | :P |
| 20:33.47 | ralfWORK | I know a T6 rogue who has 1 arm |
| 20:33.55 | ralfWORK | 2 arms are a crutch |
| 20:33.57 | ralfWORK | :P |
| 20:34.00 | kd3 | huh... I wonder what "PNJ" translates to in spanish... it apparently means "NPC" |
| 20:34.02 | kamdis | rofl |
| 20:34.04 | kergoth | my favorite macro is Acquire Target - targets my focus's target's target, focus's target, focus, pet's target, nearest enemy, in that order, with modifiers to prefer focus or pettarget |
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| 20:34.16 | kergoth | and bound it to mouse left scroll |
| 20:34.18 | kamdis | Persona non-Jugador |
| 20:34.20 | kamdis | ? |
| 20:34.23 | MentalPower | kd3: context? |
| 20:34.26 | kamdis | jugar = to play |
| 20:34.29 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5720423121&sid=2 |
| 20:34.34 | ralfWORK | kergoth: dafux? |
| 20:35.02 | MentalPower | yeah NPC |
| 20:35.08 | MentalPower | kamdis is right |
| 20:35.15 | AbsoRayne | Sigh... |
| 20:35.22 | AbsoRayne | I hate the fucking alliance on my server. |
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| 20:35.48 | kamdis | Spaish Lit major |
| 20:35.49 | kamdis | heh |
| 20:36.07 | AbsoRayne | They give up way too easily |
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| 20:36.21 | ralfWORK | care bear stare! |
| 20:37.00 | AbsoRayne | ralfWORK: Pretty much |
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| 20:37.19 | AbsoRayne | 4 alli will stand there and watch as a prot warrior gets beat down by a ret pali |
| 20:37.23 | AbsoRayne | and then laugh... |
| 20:37.31 | AbsoRayne | and cry when they get owned a minute later... |
| 20:37.39 | AbsoRayne | gee, retard, maybe if you HELPED |
| 20:37.50 | ralfWORK | rofl |
| 20:37.58 | ralfWORK | that's why I don't PVP |
| 20:38.03 | ralfWORK | you think I hate people in my raid |
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| 20:38.16 | ralfWORK | wait till you see me scream at them in something more volatile :P |
| 20:38.34 | kamdis | I am so glad I'm not in your raid, ralf. |
| 20:38.35 | kamdis | :P |
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| 20:38.50 | ralfWORK | I'm actually very good to them |
| 20:38.54 | kamdis | Lunessa is drill sargeant-y enough for me |
| 20:39.04 | ralfWORK | they just drive me to my wits end |
| 20:39.19 | ralfWORK | kamdis: I'm not drill sargeanty at all, actually |
| 20:39.26 | AbsoRayne | I love owning rogues as prot |
| 20:39.33 | kamdis | Neither is Lunessa |
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| 20:39.45 | MentalPower | kamdis: did you apply for the bilingual CM position? |
| 20:39.48 | AbsoRayne | The sound of my shield going 'THUNK' from fully blocking something is so satisfying |
| 20:39.57 | kamdis | MentalPower: No |
| 20:40.03 | kamdis | that was a guess |
| 20:40.13 | kd3 | oh geez |
| 20:40.18 | kd3 | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2398916025034509084 |
| 20:40.26 | Lunessa | Heh... I'm pretty controlling. I tell everyone where to stand for every fight and what spells to cast and when to do it. The people are just remotes for all the keyboards/game clients so I can get my phat lewtz. |
| 20:40.34 | Industrial | <3 gvideo player |
| 20:40.44 | Industrial | they should just convert youtube to gvideo imo |
| 20:40.52 | ralfWORK | Lunessa: wow that's pretty good |
| 20:41.03 | ralfWORK | I won't do that |
| 20:41.04 | kd3 | but then where would we go to get totally inane, unmoderated comments? |
| 20:41.17 | Industrial | exactly |
| 20:41.19 | ralfWORK | I bet we'd probably get more done that way :P |
| 20:41.22 | Lunessa | .... </sarcasm> |
| 20:41.23 | kamdis | yaeh, and then he doesnt' take any loot. |
| 20:41.24 | Industrial | and it'd be BIG by default |
| 20:41.28 | kamdis | kd3: yikes |
| 20:41.56 | ralfWORK | post wipe it's usually something like this |
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| 20:42.06 | Lunessa | Heh, I'm like the only member of my guild with 50+ kara runs and ZERO T4 gear to show for it. |
| 20:42.33 | kamdis | I've been on what, one run with you guys and I have a piece from that run |
| 20:42.35 | kamdis | heh |
| 20:42.39 | ralfWORK | me: "so... did you happen to be using <some ability that you have that's omg obvious to use there>?" |
| 20:42.51 | ralfWORK | them: "oh I didn't even think of it" |
| 20:43.19 | kamdis | shorten that to "i didn't even think" ralf |
| 20:43.21 | ralfWORK | me: "ok, let's try that next time and see if that helps" vent off, scream at screen, throw something across room |
| 20:43.22 | AbsoRayne | @_@ |
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| 20:43.31 | AbsoRayne | You guys are making me dread hyjal more |
| 20:43.37 | kamdis | haha |
| 20:43.41 | kamdis | You LOVE it |
| 20:43.50 | ralfWORK | kamdis: yea, pretty much |
| 20:43.53 | kamdis | ~staple WobWork |
| 20:43.54 | purl | ACTION attaches a staple gun to a pneumatic nail gun via duct tape, staples WobWork quite well, and hands WobWork to kamdis |
| 20:44.28 | Industrial | I need something to throw with that doesnt break things |
| 20:44.45 | ralfWORK | every so often my PTT key sticks though |
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| 20:44.51 | Industrial | Usually I abuse my desk by benging it but the family complains :p |
| 20:44.54 | ralfWORK | think that's only happened once or twice :P |
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| 20:45.08 | Lunessa | Get some Nerf brand balls you can throw. |
| 20:45.10 | Industrial | banging* |
| 20:45.16 | AbsoRayne | Wow...Blood Elves are bad...this full S3 Ret one is barely touching me. :/ |
| 20:45.18 | ralfWORK | nerf is'nt satisfying |
| 20:45.27 | ralfWORK | breaking glass is satisfying |
| 20:45.31 | Industrial | alestane: its the player. |
| 20:45.37 | Industrial | AbsoRayne: * |
| 20:45.45 | dylanm | Ret in PvP is uh |
| 20:45.58 | quamaretto | Guys, I have no idea how to search for this - is there an addon for healers that would show you the remaining Shield Block/Holy Shield/Redboubt or other "uncrittable, uncrushable" buff states of a tank (say, if you set it to focus)? |
| 20:45.59 | dylanm | It seems like you generally have to surprise people. |
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| 20:46.28 | ralfWORK | quamaretto: hmm. never heard of one. but I'm no expert |
| 20:46.49 | AbsoRayne | Industrial: aparetnly |
| 20:47.01 | quamaretto | It probably wouldn't be hard to write, but I'd rather not. My Tetris project bombed early when I couldn't even get basic FrameXML going. |
| 20:47.09 | AbsoRayne | sp, w/e im pvping |
| 20:47.09 | AbsoRayne | lol |
| 20:47.53 | kamdis | wouldn't something like NECB catch that? |
| 20:48.23 | quamaretto | NECB? Let me google that <_< |
| 20:48.24 | ralfWORK | honestly, I'm not sure if that's realy valuable |
| 20:48.49 | ralfWORK | I mean, you're asking for itt, so it must be |
| 20:48.55 | quamaretto | Okay... I'm just wondering if running out of charges is why we keep losing tanks in Mag. |
| 20:49.06 | ralfWORK | quamaretto: that's where WWS comes in |
| 20:49.11 | kamdis | quamaretto: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6616-NaturEnemyCastBar.html |
| 20:49.36 | ralfWORK | that's a raidleader issue |
| 20:49.48 | AbsoRayne | rofl...jumped by 7 horde |
| 20:49.48 | ralfWORK | parse a wws, manipulate the combat log thingy to look for crushes |
| 20:49.52 | quamaretto | We have very little healer coordination. |
| 20:50.05 | ralfWORK | quamaretto: there's an addon called VisualHeal |
| 20:50.08 | quamaretto | So, right now, it's more of a "can one dedicated priest fix this" issue |
| 20:50.10 | ralfWORK | you might want to check it out |
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| 20:50.24 | ralfWORK | get all your healers to use it |
| 20:50.40 | Tem | mag doesn't swing very fast |
| 20:50.54 | Tem | there's no reason they should be running out of sheild block charges |
| 20:51.00 | ralfWORK | or that :) |
| 20:51.19 | ralfWORK | I know nothing about specifics of the fight; just looking at what quamaretto is saying :) |
| 20:51.23 | Tem | you almost have to get a boss that dual weilds to get to the point of hitting fast enough to eat 2 charges |
| 20:51.27 | NightHawkAtWork | i agree about using wws, or something else to parse the combat log. |
| 20:51.31 | quamaretto | Hmm... |
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| 20:51.43 | quamaretto | So I really should just read the logs to figure out what's happening. |
| 20:51.44 | NightHawkAtWork | see if your tanks are taking crushes before trying to fix that problem :P |
| 20:51.47 | zenzelezz | Tem: even Morogrim is capable of burning Shield Block |
| 20:51.53 | quamaretto | I mean, we're losing the tank in 2-3 seconds, from full health. |
| 20:51.54 | ralfWORK | quamaretto: you will find the logs to be extremely informative |
| 20:51.55 | Tem | so, if your tanks are taking crushes on mag, one of the following 3 things are true |
| 20:51.59 | Tem | 1) They are druids |
| 20:52.20 | quamaretto | 3) They don't always keep up shield block/holy shield? |
| 20:52.29 | NightHawkAtWork | 3 is actually "they suck" |
| 20:52.37 | quamaretto | Same thing. |
| 20:52.59 | Tem | 2) They don't have cobined miss/parry/dodge/block above 27.5% before hitting sheild block |
| 20:53.04 | Tem | (read that as, their gear sucks) |
| 20:53.09 | Tem | 3) They suck. |
| 20:53.32 | quamaretto | I don't think they are slouching on gear - they keep talking about defense cap and even our newest tanks have it. |
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| 20:53.45 | ralfWORK | you get def cap in pre kz blues |
| 20:53.48 | Tem | defense cap is possible in blues |
| 20:53.50 | kd3 | there's more to it than the defense cap |
| 20:53.57 | ralfWORK | and this has nothing to do with def cap |
| 20:54.12 | ralfWORK | uncrushable != uncritable |
| 20:54.13 | quamaretto | Okay. See, I never got into warrior/pally tanking stats, only Druid :/ |
| 20:54.22 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 20:54.30 | quamaretto | Yeah, I know, I was sorta generalizing... I think they know what they're doing |
| 20:54.37 | Tem | you should still understand how defense and crushing blows work |
| 20:54.39 | ralfWORK | that's why you get your raid leader to address it ;) |
| 20:54.42 | AbsoRayne | ralfWORK: Unless youre a pali, then you know, youre totally uncrushable! |
| 20:54.47 | AbsoRayne | rolls his eyes |
| 20:54.47 | Tem | My druid is the only reason I do |
| 20:54.52 | ralfWORK | AbsoRayne: FROM BIRTH |
| 20:55.43 | AbsoRayne | I love hearing palis say taht |
| 20:55.51 | AbsoRayne | and when they die on a boss fight "I got crushed". |
| 20:56.32 | ralfWORK | you wouldn't believe how hard it was for me to convince our prot pally to become uncrushable |
| 20:56.35 | ScytheBlade1 | So on a scale of 1-10, how subtle was my /bump? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5720382511&sid=1 |
| 20:56.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Err |
| 20:56.50 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5720382511&sid=1#17 |
| 20:57.04 | kd3 | where 10 is subtle or unsubtle? |
| 20:57.04 | Lunessa | *chuckle* |
| 20:57.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Subtle |
| 20:57.14 | kd3 | -38 |
| 20:57.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah. I see. |
| 20:57.23 | ScytheBlade1 | I should work on that. |
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| 20:59.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah well, live and learn |
| 20:59.58 | kamdis | haha Scythe |
| 21:00.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Figured that you'd like that |
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| 21:03.02 | quamaretto | Yah, the warrior tank took a 9480 crush from Magtheridon at the end. |
| 21:03.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Whoops, had to pick a sibling up... now |
| 21:03.12 | ScytheBlade1 | afk! |
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| 21:03.27 | quamaretto | After taking a cleave for 11k - is that normal for a main tank? |
| 21:03.38 | ralfWORK | if he takes it alone? |
| 21:03.44 | ralfWORK | I could see that |
| 21:04.01 | ralfWORK | Halazzi does more than that :P |
| 21:05.03 | quamaretto | Can you go to a specific time in a WWS log? |
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| 21:05.16 | ralfWORK | quamaretto: uhm... yes I think so |
| 21:05.35 | ralfWORK | you can search for certain things too |
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| 21:05.42 | AbsoRayne | Cant. Stop. YAWNING |
| 21:05.43 | ralfWORK | like... "things done to character X" |
| 21:05.47 | Tem | ralfWORK, you have a dumb pally tank |
| 21:05.50 | ralfWORK | or "things done by character X" |
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| 21:06.03 | quamaretto | Yeah, I need to get right to 04:41'24 for magtheridon's cleaves... But I can page to it fine. |
| 21:06.24 | AbsoRayne | Whats the vs command for the bot again? |
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| 21:06.50 | Tem | speaking of dumb tanks, there was this druid on the druid forms touting his phillosphy that since growl is on a 10 second cooldown, it's better to use it every time it's up |
| 21:07.00 | AbsoRayne | !vs us kil'jaeden absolutrayne us kil'jaeden ubohica |
| 21:07.03 | Tem | so that you never miss a chance to have it up |
| 21:07.06 | quamaretto | Yah, took the cleave alone. |
| 21:07.17 | ralfWORK | quamaretto: your OT fails then |
| 21:07.29 | quamaretto | Well, not necessarilly. |
| 21:07.36 | quamaretto | Mag was spinning around like a top the whole time. |
| 21:07.43 | ralfWORK | uh. k |
| 21:07.49 | quamaretto | So maybe the MT's fault |
| 21:07.55 | ralfWORK | *shrug* |
| 21:08.00 | ralfWORK | again, I don't know the fight |
| 21:08.01 | AbsoRayne | Why was he spinning? Does your tank not know what a hit box is? |
| 21:08.16 | quamaretto | Well, not spinning, but kept moving around. Dunno. |
| 21:08.19 | ralfWORK | but I can't think of a time where a tank should take a cleave alone |
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| 21:08.50 | quamaretto | And since the tank got crushed at the end, I'm thinking it's probably his bad. |
| 21:09.12 | ralfWORK | *nod* |
| 21:09.15 | AbsoRayne | Yup |
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| 21:10.02 | quamaretto | Alright, thanks for advice :) |
| 21:11.02 | AbsoRayne | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWHWqXLke1g Boy band anyone? |
| 21:12.13 | NightHawkAtWork | ralfWORK, quamaretto: afaik, mag's cleaves do not split damage between tanks. There's no need for anyone else to "soak" it, and no problem with the tank taking the cleave alone |
| 21:12.31 | NightHawkAtWork | in fact, the entire point is for the tank to be the ONLY one taking cleaves, everyone else should be behind mag. |
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| 21:13.08 | ralfWORK | NightHawkAtWork: aight I'll trust you on that, I haven't seen the encounter |
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| 21:13.31 | ralfWORK | but uhm... wouldn't it not be a litteral cleave if it can't be split? :P |
| 21:13.33 | quamaretto | Wowwiki just says "8k or more on tanks", so you're probably right |
| 21:13.41 | quamaretto | But the crush is probably still the tank's bad... |
| 21:13.46 | AbsoRayne | Also, dont forget |
| 21:13.50 | NightHawkAtWork | quamaretto: absolutely it is, yes. :P |
| 21:13.57 | AbsoRayne | The tank needs more than a flash of light when taking 8K damage. |
| 21:14.01 | NightHawkAtWork | ralfWORK: why so? Warrior's cleave ability doesn't "split" its damage |
| 21:14.07 | ralfWORK | rofl |
| 21:14.08 | AbsoRayne | Hard to process in the mind, I know. |
| 21:14.16 | NightHawkAtWork | it does X damage to 2 targets, but it doesnt do 2x if there's only one target :p |
| 21:14.35 | NightHawkAtWork | AbsoRayne: LIES! LIES AND SLANDER! :D |
| 21:14.45 | AbsoRayne | Mags cleave isnt like the one in ZA off Bear and Lynx, its a flat out own your fucking face cleave. Anyone in front of it thats not the tank is probably going to die. |
| 21:15.07 | NightHawkAtWork | ralfWORK: actually, I'm pretty sure the concept of a split-damage cleave is new za, or at least TBC, isnt it? |
| 21:15.09 | quamaretto | AbsoRayne: Yeah. I think another part of the problem is that after warlocks are down, we have no healing assignments. |
| 21:15.20 | NightHawkAtWork | well, i guess you could call meteor in aq similar. |
| 21:15.26 | ralfWORK | NightHawkAtWork: mmm could be? |
| 21:15.29 | quamaretto | This results in everyone going "ohshit" after blast nova to clear up raid damage (we're taking quite a few ticks of it right now) |
| 21:15.41 | AbsoRayne | 4 healers on MT, rest on raid, spot healing the tank when needed. gg. |
| 21:15.56 | AbsoRayne | 2 HoT healers, 2 heavy heals, youre done. |
| 21:15.59 | NightHawkAtWork | quamaretto: imo, if you're taking more a single tick of blast nova after 2.4, your raid really fails. badly. :P |
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| 21:16.56 | AbsoRayne | I remember seeing the night after 2.4, the 'Bagtheradon' post on te General Forums |
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| 21:17.16 | NightHawkAtWork | hehe |
| 21:17.30 | NightHawkAtWork | yeah, we did mag and gruul the night after 2.4 hit, so trivial. |
| 21:17.33 | quamaretto | NightHawk: That may be true. It's also a 2-guild run with the OTHER guild coordinating it... |
| 21:17.36 | AbsoRayne | brb, checking on the kittens |
| 21:17.39 | quamaretto | So it's their fault :P |
| 21:17.46 | ralfWORK | heh |
| 21:19.32 | AbsoRayne | Theyre all sleepy. ^____________________^ |
| 21:19.46 | amro | iPod batteries are designed to run out at the best part of the song |
| 21:20.36 | quamaretto | Um... How does 20.26% dodge, 16.94% parry and 24.84% block sound on a tank (from armory)? |
| 21:20.57 | zenzelezz | bit low dodge |
| 21:21.30 | zenzelezz | "sheep what needs to be shept" o_O |
| 21:21.53 | quamaretto | I'm seeing nothing but stam gems too, with lost defense/dodge rating bonuses... Hmm |
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| 21:22.00 | NightHawkAtWork | thats fine |
| 21:22.10 | NightHawkAtWork | def/dodge socket bonuses dont usually make up for the lost sta |
| 21:22.21 | quamaretto | Okay |
| 21:22.56 | NightHawkAtWork | unless he's gemming a piece specifically for avoidance/hit, or needs the gems to reach the def cap, +12 sta gems all the way. |
| 21:23.00 | AbsoRayne | Hes got as much dodge as I do, and im in T5. |
| 21:23.07 | AbsoRayne | Let me see his armory link? |
| 21:23.12 | quamaretto | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Nordrassil&n=Fletchskin |
| 21:23.25 | zenzelezz | I'm in T5/T6 with 28% dodge |
| 21:23.30 | zenzelezz | no dodge gems |
| 21:23.44 | AbsoRayne | Im going to tell you right now |
| 21:23.48 | AbsoRayne | He needs to respec a little |
| 21:24.08 | quamaretto | I hadn't looked at his exact spec. |
| 21:24.53 | AbsoRayne | wow...how does he have 20%? That seems off... |
| 21:25.05 | AbsoRayne | oh nm, I see... |
| 21:25.20 | AbsoRayne | His gear is more than fine for Mag... |
| 21:25.42 | AbsoRayne | His parry is a little high for that fight |
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| 21:25.46 | AbsoRayne | Thatll get him killed. |
| 21:26.03 | AbsoRayne | Does he happen to have the boots off bear from ZA? |
| 21:27.02 | zenzelezz | you suggest a lower parry on the tank? Don't hear many people say that to anyone except melee DPS |
| 21:27.04 | quamaretto | No, looks like a kara drop |
| 21:27.21 | AbsoRayne | I suggest low parry for mag |
| 21:27.26 | AbsoRayne | Because he his like a truck |
| 21:27.32 | quamaretto | What were you gonna say about his spec? |
| 21:27.45 | Hirsute | So, not just lower parry, but replacing it with increased stam or dodge? |
| 21:28.06 | zenzelezz | AbsoRayne: I know he does, but that hasn't stopped the majority of people |
| 21:28.17 | zenzelezz | but I understand your point, it's very valid |
| 21:28.33 | NightHawkAtWork | AbsoRayne: er.. low parry on the tank wha? |
| 21:28.45 | zenzelezz | so the boss doesn't get the swing timer buff |
| 21:28.54 | NightHawkAtWork | er.. that only happens if the BOSS parries, not the tank |
| 21:29.13 | NightHawkAtWork | which is not affected by the tanks parry% |
| 21:29.25 | zenzelezz | I can never remember which way it works, I just stick in my normal gear |
| 21:29.27 | AbsoRayne | Im telling you either way, he needs to lower his parry for block. |
| 21:29.42 | NightHawkAtWork | AbsoRayne: why? |
| 21:29.55 | NightHawkAtWork | (not saying your wrong, i just dont know what you reasoning is) |
| 21:29.55 | AbsoRayne | And please, PLEASE ask him why he doesnt have 5/5 Cruelty for tanking. -_- |
| 21:30.04 | zenzelezz | block isn't that effective unless you have a decent block value |
| 21:30.05 | NightHawkAtWork | your* |
| 21:30.11 | quamaretto | Why, what does that crit do? |
| 21:30.12 | kd3 | lmao... a keylogger in the bug reports forum |
| 21:30.18 | NightHawkAtWork | quamaretto: threat |
| 21:30.23 | quamaretto | Well, yeah |
| 21:30.24 | zenzelezz | AbsoRayne: was it you I had the discussion about cookie cutter specs with? |
| 21:30.46 | AbsoRayne | NightHawkAtWork: Mag isnt about TPS, its about surviving. The more block for that fight, the better. |
| 21:30.47 | NightHawkAtWork | he does have some wasted points in prot, though, and no imp def stance? wtf? |
| 21:31.10 | AbsoRayne | If he has an Autoblocker, have him put it in place of the badge from Netherwing |
| 21:31.20 | AbsoRayne | And use it every time he can. |
| 21:31.31 | zenzelezz | I'll step out of this, I have too peculiar opinions on the matter |
| 21:31.40 | quamaretto | That could be soloing gear... Don't see why, but maybe |
| 21:31.48 | NightHawkAtWork | AbsoRayne: yeah, i know that, but parry is generally going to be at least as good, if not better than block for survival isn't it? |
| 21:32.07 | AbsoRayne | And for the love of god, have him lose imp revenge, imp taunt, shield bash and shield wall. Put 5/5 Cruelty, and Tach Mastery. |
| 21:32.24 | AbsoRayne | and maybe one back into imp taunt |
| 21:32.30 | AbsoRayne | as a filler |
| 21:32.41 | quamaretto | The tank isn't in our guild |
| 21:32.51 | quamaretto | I shoudl have said this about 10 minutes ago |
| 21:33.20 | AbsoRayne | NightHawkTheSane: Constant midigation is better than a lucky parry |
| 21:33.36 | AbsoRayne | And yes I think it was me you had the discussion with about specs |
| 21:33.58 | quamaretto | Yeah, what the hell on tactical mastery? I thought that was baseline, my level 20 warr has that. |
| 21:34.01 | Hirsute | Improved shield wall has saved me more times than i care to admit when my healer was having issues. |
| 21:34.24 | AbsoRayne | If you need imp shield wall that madly, you need better healers. :/ |
| 21:34.33 | quamaretto | That's me. |
| 21:34.41 | Tem | you know, some of those warrior tanks make my druid exceptionally jealous |
| 21:34.49 | NightHawkAtWork | eh, i think you can do without tactical mastery |
| 21:34.53 | NightHawkAtWork | but it is extremely handy |
| 21:34.58 | Tem | I want a couple of those oh shit buttons for when my healer sucks |
| 21:35.14 | NightHawkAtWork | Tem: oh, come on.. you have.. frenzied regen! >.> *flee* |
| 21:35.17 | quamaretto | Well, our coordination sucks more than individual healers. |
| 21:35.26 | Tem | NightHawkAtWork, QQ |
| 21:35.27 | quamaretto | 8D FRENZIED REGENERATION |
| 21:35.35 | AbsoRayne | Frenzied Regen is like 'wat.' |
| 21:35.54 | Tem | it's an oh shit button that if you wait until you have an "oh shit" moment, it's too late to use |
| 21:35.54 | quamaretto | I remember accidentally pushing that on my druid once and just thinking "why in the hell is that bound to any button" "ever" |
| 21:36.00 | AbsoRayne | The only thing im jealous about bears is that they reach armor cap so fast. |
| 21:36.08 | Tem | yes lol |
| 21:36.13 | quamaretto | Isn't druid tanking gear easier to come by too? |
| 21:36.16 | NightHawkAtWork | Eh, frenzied regen is nice when solo-bear-tanking things |
| 21:36.17 | Tem | I'm almost there myself and have nothing but kara gear |
| 21:36.22 | Tem | quamaretto, ROFL no |
| 21:36.23 | NightHawkAtWork | quamaretto: not terribly |
| 21:36.26 | quamaretto | Oh. |
| 21:36.29 | Tem | exactly the opposite |
| 21:36.31 | Tem | in fact |
| 21:36.33 | NightHawkAtWork | its kinda a pain in the ass |
| 21:36.38 | NightHawkAtWork | they try to hybridize cat/bear gear way too much |
| 21:36.56 | quamaretto | You know, I've been through SP about 10 times for that cloak, you'd think I would get it. |
| 21:37.05 | Tem | I got it :) |
| 21:37.11 | Tem | but I don't use it anymore |
| 21:37.13 | AbsoRayne | lol |
| 21:37.21 | Tem | I use the cloak from Mech |
| 21:37.23 | quamaretto | "Quit trying to gear up. Go buy and essence focuser and respec." |
| 21:37.29 | AbsoRayne | Wouldnt the badge cloak be just as good for druid tanks? or no |
| 21:37.30 | NightHawkAtWork | Tem: get the badge cloak, imo. |
| 21:37.34 | Tem | until I get enough badges-- |
| 21:37.40 | Tem | thank you, NightHawkAtWork |
| 21:37.49 | AbsoRayne | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kil'jaeden&n=Absolutrayne om nom nom |
| 21:37.55 | Tem | That cloak is my next purchase |
| 21:38.04 | Tem | I just bought the ring and bracers |
| 21:38.08 | AbsoRayne | My STR is so horribly low. I wish I could change that... |
| 21:38.09 | NightHawkAtWork | nice |
| 21:38.27 | Tem | I want a new hat and shoulders _so_ bad |
| 21:38.37 | NightHawkAtWork | whats your current ones? |
| 21:38.45 | Tem | Exorcist hat |
| 21:38.47 | AbsoRayne | I want a new chestpiece. I can live with the t4 helm, its not bad at all. |
| 21:38.51 | NightHawkAtWork | there's like NO good tanking shoulders pre-t4 >< |
| 21:38.53 | Tem | and shoulders from heroic BF |
| 21:39.02 | Tem | pretty much, yeah |
| 21:39.23 | Tem | the hat needs to go real, real bad |
| 21:39.37 | quamaretto | What does block rating mean at 70? I can't parse the wowwiki article quite <_< |
| 21:39.38 | Tem | and my shoulders are acceptable at best |
| 21:39.51 | quamaretto | Oh nvm,I seeit |
| 21:39.58 | Tem | they're trying to put together a gruul run this weekend for before kara |
| 21:40.00 | AbsoRayne | Block Rating = Increased Chance to Block |
| 21:40.04 | NightHawkAtWork | Tem: stylin' purple hat. :P |
| 21:40.06 | Tem | so maybe I'll get lucky there too :) |
| 21:40.10 | AbsoRayne | Block Value = How much Blocked |
| 21:40.11 | Tem | NightHawkAtWork, meh |
| 21:40.12 | quamaretto | I meant block value |
| 21:40.29 | Tem | I know it's better than what I have now, but I have a pretty decent chance at T4 this weekend |
| 21:40.32 | quamaretto | LIke I said, I just needed to look for 2 more seconds to see the big blinking red formula |
| 21:40.38 | Tem | so I just don't feel like putting the effort |
| 21:40.43 | NightHawkAtWork | heh, fair enough |
| 21:40.49 | Tem | also, I put a meta in it at 68 |
| 21:40.53 | AbsoRayne | tbh...my block seems kinda high... |
| 21:40.58 | NightHawkAtWork | the exorsist one is pretty nice, as is |
| 21:40.59 | Tem | so I feel bad throwing it away |
| 21:41.00 | AbsoRayne | Just under 35%. O_o |
| 21:41.29 | quamaretto | Also, where the hell are the priest staffs? The badge gear people hate us. |
| 21:41.41 | quamaretto | Oh boy, more int/stam healing maces. |
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| 21:42.05 | Tem | quamaretto, they only put druid staves in badge gear because they don't want them on bosses |
| 21:42.17 | Tem | because it's ONE spec out of 27 that can use it |
| 21:42.22 | NightHawkAtWork | hey, some of us like those healing maces.. those of us with shamans doing t6 content using the heroic murmur mace. ..> |
| 21:42.23 | NightHawkAtWork | >.> |
| 21:42.30 | AbsoRayne | and without trinket, or 2 piece t5 im already stopping 681 per block... |
| 21:42.53 | AbsoRayne | Stopping 1101 with 2 piece t5 and Autoblocker popped. :D |
| 21:43.00 | NightHawkAtWork | AbsoRayne: got the new sunwell meta? 10% block value! :P |
| 21:43.01 | quamaretto | <_< Yeah, I just wish something before Nightbane had real spirit |
| 21:43.14 | AbsoRayne | NightHawkAtWork: I actually bought it off a horde. :P |
| 21:43.19 | NightHawkAtWork | AbsoRayne: hah, nice |
| 21:43.22 | AbsoRayne | Neutral AH ftw |
| 21:43.30 | MentalPower | ~seen AnduinLothar |
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| 21:44.54 | quamaretto | I gotta go work, thanks for the help guys <_< |
| 21:45.08 | Lunessa | Ok... Off to go teach people to use Office 2007. |
| 21:45.15 | Tem | Lunessa, I'm sorry |
| 21:45.27 | Tem | off to class with me |
| 21:45.29 | NightHawkAtWork | ... my sincere condolances. >< |
| 21:45.30 | Lunessa | It pays the bills... barely. |
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| 21:55.11 | AbsoRayne | kamdis: Lurker! |
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| 21:56.06 | NightHawkAtWork | Lurker? I hardly know her... |
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| 22:00.00 | Industrial | http://pastey.net/85036 |
| 22:00.03 | Industrial | I dont see my texture |
| 22:00.03 | Industrial | why |
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| 22:00.38 | NightHawkAtWork | because you touch yourself at night? |
| 22:00.48 | Industrial | sigh |
| 22:01.04 | Industrial | shouldnt it just be a while little 20x20 block in the center of my screen when I am casting? (because thats its parent) |
| 22:02.49 | wereHamster | you never :Show() it |
| 22:03.20 | NightHawkAtWork | yeah, i was about to say that.. |
| 22:04.04 | Industrial | still nothing |
| 22:04.36 | wereHamster | is a frame by default hidden or showed? because your 'frame' which you use for your onUpdate(), that function is either called never or at every redraw |
| 22:05.11 | Industrial | its default shown |
| 22:05.42 | wereHamster | the code as you posted it, never executes the onEvent() callback |
| 22:05.55 | wereHamster | :RegisterEvent() is missing |
| 22:06.11 | Industrial | *facedesk* |
| 22:06.19 | NightHawkAtWork | heh |
| 22:06.37 | Industrial | well it doesnt even need an event handler imo :\ |
| 22:06.42 | kamdis | Rayne: I'll lurk YOU |
| 22:06.43 | wereHamster | don't be so hard to yourself :) |
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| 22:13.22 | AbsoRayne | >:[ |
| 22:13.33 | AbsoRayne | The UI Competition thread is on its way to page 2! |
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| 22:13.38 | kamdis | smirks. |
| 22:14.10 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 22:15.26 | dylanm | Competition.../ |
| 22:15.26 | AbsoRayne | Ah well |
| 22:15.31 | dylanm | That doesn't seem like a good idea. |
| 22:15.31 | AbsoRayne | Was a good giggle |
| 22:15.44 | AbsoRayne | dylanm: Which is very much why were ignoring it! |
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| 22:17.23 | kamdis | So, um, am I as big a moron as this person on the forums wants me to think I am? I told him/her there's no way to macro stop auto follow. Am I wrong? |
| 22:17.44 | kamdis | it's a movement function, no? |
| 22:17.46 | Lopeppeppy | I understood the same as you did. |
| 22:17.49 | kamdis | therefore protected |
| 22:18.07 | Lopeppeppy | Anyone else tell us we're sane? Please? |
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| 22:19.16 | kamdis | wowwiki will know |
| 22:19.44 | Lopeppeppy | i'm trying to scroll through Cog's guide right now.... I'll race ya. |
| 22:20.02 | wereHamster | what UI competition? |
| 22:20.21 | cog|work | kamdis: /follow ? |
| 22:20.37 | kamdis | Does it toggle that way? |
| 22:20.40 | kamdis | to stop? |
| 22:20.43 | cog|work | not sure... |
| 22:20.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Does not toggle |
| 22:21.01 | Lopeppeppy | Oh dear. Now wonder *I'm* unsure, if Cogwheel's unsure... |
| 22:21.09 | AbsoRayne | kamdis: Can I see the thread? |
| 22:21.26 | cog|work | any emote that would interrupt your following would do... for example, /sit followed by /stand might do it |
| 22:21.31 | kamdis | yaeh, me too. Damn it. |
| 22:21.36 | kamdis | the lapdance thread Rayne |
| 22:21.39 | Lopeppeppy | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5720533202&sid=1 |
| 22:22.17 | kamdis | They want a way to macro stopfollow for their dual-boxing slave |
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| 22:22.28 | kamdis | I just don't think you can. |
| 22:22.33 | AbsoRayne | You cant |
| 22:22.35 | kamdis | They should just keybind it |
| 22:23.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Can't do it "remotely" |
| 22:24.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Can make an out of combat based addon that would update one keybound button though |
| 22:25.18 | kergoth | hmm, prat seems to get confused and screw up my combat log's positioning/size |
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| 22:27.36 | kamdis | they want to put it in the middle of a /petattack, /cast Hunter's Mark macro |
| 22:27.44 | kamdis | which is a no |
| 22:27.48 | kamdis | I hate people |
| 22:28.05 | Lopeppeppy | hugs kamdis tight. People suck, but sometimes individuals are quite nice. |
| 22:28.29 | kamdis | yes, that's true. I hate people, but quite like some individuals. |
| 22:28.34 | kamdis | hugs Peppy back. |
| 22:28.45 | AbsoRayne | Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww |
| 22:29.12 | kamdis | wonders how long until the ooo girl on girl action comments start. |
| 22:29.22 | AbsoRayne | doesnt care. :B |
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| 22:31.10 | Lopeppeppy | The guys are being.... gentlemanly tonight. There's hope for the world yet. |
| 22:31.37 | NightHawkAtWork | I guess if you really want, I could make a lewd comment or two, I was actually doing work, though. ;) |
| 22:31.50 | Lopeppeppy | No darlin', you just keep on as you were before, that's fine. |
| 22:32.12 | NightHawkAtWork | goes back to crying into his vb code. >< |
| 22:32.37 | Lopeppeppy | Careful or it will get rusty |
| 22:32.52 | NightHawkAtWork | oh, trust me, this code is already old and rusty. :P |
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| 22:34.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Haha. Man I love Unreal Tournament. |
| 22:34.22 | ScytheBlade1 | "Sbo tried out one of his mines. It worked!" |
| 22:35.48 | kamdis | Hahaha. Exclamator told me to "stop double posting." |
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| 22:50.59 | Lunessa | ... returns from teaching office 2007. |
| 22:52.40 | Nechckn | you are quite the quick one, Lunessa |
| 22:53.16 | Lunessa | it's an overview... 2003 --> 2007 |
| 22:53.35 | Nechckn | ah... |
| 22:54.13 | Nechckn | do you just show them their bank account where they had more money before they bought it, and now less? |
| 22:54.16 | Nechckn | =) |
| 22:54.36 | Lunessa | No, I show them where to put money into my bank account directly. |
| 22:54.49 | Nechckn | even better |
| 22:56.22 | Lunessa | *headdesk* http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5720382710&sid=1 |
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| 23:01.38 | Lopeppeppy | After a patch, the stupids come out. |
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| 23:05.40 | Lunessa | Kamdis... I saw the post you meant. He needs an elephant to lapdance on his head. |
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| 23:09.58 | Lopeppeppy | totally likes that image |
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| 23:20.49 | Duman | kd3 sniping posts in the bug report forum! |
| 23:20.50 | Duman | ;-) |
| 23:21.18 | kd3 | meh |
| 23:21.20 | Guillotine | Cairenn: you never cease to amaze me. How did you write the most recent news post without including a "ROFL" or "facepalm"? I never could have done it |
| 23:21.45 | Cairenn | just reporting news that impacts the mod community |
| 23:22.05 | Lunessa | Which is why we <3 her. |
| 23:22.42 | Duman | hehe |
| 23:23.07 | kd3 | shakes his head at the latest news out of them |
| 23:24.37 | Guillotine | haha, HighRoller has gotten ANOTHER 3k downloads on WoWI since yesterday |
| 23:24.59 | ScytheBlade1 | loooool |
| 23:25.45 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 23:26.02 | Guillotine | So somebody just reported the AddOn "QuestHelper" on Curse. With what comment? "quest helper". Thanks. |
| 23:26.18 | Guillotine | userz iz stoopid sumteims |
| 23:26.19 | kd3 | whuh? |
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| 23:29.21 | Lunessa | HighRoller, IllegalAddOn - what's next? MadSkillz? |
| 23:30.02 | Drundia | maybe RichMan? |
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| 23:31.09 | Cairenn | hey Beladona |
| 23:31.25 | Cairenn | Guillotine: lol |
| 23:31.37 | Josh_Borke | ~emulate Josh_Borke |
| 23:31.38 | purl | ACTION hugs Cairenn |
| 23:31.57 | Cairenn | ~emulate cairenn |
| 23:31.58 | purl | ACTION purrs |
| 23:32.01 | Cairenn | purrs |
| 23:32.03 | Cairenn | hugs Josh_Borke |
| 23:32.47 | Lopeppeppy | WTF... I alt-tab and crash my WoW. Every time. |
| 23:33.04 | Lopeppeppy | What happened. *sigh* |
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| 23:33.18 | Kalroth | blame Josh! |
| 23:33.53 | Beladona | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:35.08 | Josh_Borke | wtf? |
| 23:35.10 | Josh_Borke | why blame josh? |
| 23:35.13 | Josh_Borke | blame kaelten imo |
| 23:35.30 | Kaelten | what? |
| 23:35.34 | Kaelten | thats it |
| 23:35.43 | Kaelten | ha take that! |
| 23:35.54 | kamdis | I'm not away dammit |
| 23:36.13 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 23:36.28 | Josh_Borke | Kaelten: you ever gonna work on that calendar mod again? |
| 23:37.02 | Lunessa | People with extended ASCII character graphic .sig files should DIAF |
| 23:37.27 | ag` | don't make me post the orly owl |
| 23:37.35 | Josh_Borke | yarly |
| 23:40.21 | AbsoRayne | :| |
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| 23:40.39 | AbsoRayne | Why do people need 50 million fucking things on their screens? Honestly |
| 23:40.45 | Gngsk | so, I have this secure frame, and I have it setup to show/hide on click, how could I go about having it shown whe I hold the keybinding and hide when I release it? |
| 23:40.48 | Josh_Borke | information overload man |
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| 23:43.43 | Guillotine | Jonathan Coulton is just pure win |
| 23:43.58 | Guillotine | Does anybody else type in a mix of qwerty and dvorak sometimes? o.O |
| 23:44.29 | kamdis | You could tell him he can make more bars with the bar mod, Rayne. |
| 23:44.35 | kamdis | some of us like info overload :P |
| 23:44.37 | AbsoRayne | I could |
| 23:44.40 | AbsoRayne | But I dont want to |
| 23:44.43 | kamdis | ha |
| 23:44.47 | kamdis | fair enough |
| 23:44.54 | AbsoRayne | Dont have to hold peoples hands |
| 23:46.23 | AbsoRayne | Why do people on macs just have endless problems with my UI? |
| 23:46.50 | AbsoRayne | "I have a mac and everythings so small!" "It wont install right!" "How do I open a .rar?!" |
| 23:47.17 | AbsoRayne | Or do retards just flock to me? |
| 23:47.39 | kamdis | I have a mac |
| 23:47.47 | Josh_Borke | Guillotine: what do you mean? |
| 23:47.52 | AbsoRayne | Yes but youve used my UIs and had no problems with them |
| 23:47.59 | Josh_Borke | Guillotine: mix how? as in switch between machines or mid sentence switch layouts mentally? |
| 23:48.11 | Guillotine | mid sentance |
| 23:48.12 | Josh_Borke | AbsoRayne: why do you use rar? |
| 23:48.17 | kamdis | People r dum Rayne. |
| 23:48.19 | Guillotine | I keep typing d instead of e :( |
| 23:48.20 | Josh_Borke | Guillotine: nope, i've never switched mid sentence |
| 23:48.36 | Josh_Borke | Guillotine: frequently i'll type incorrectly for the entirety of a sentence |
| 23:48.38 | Josh_Borke | only to start over |
| 23:49.11 | NightHawkAtWork | AbsoRayne: i'm going to go with the retards idea. :P and yeah, why .rar? |
| 23:49.12 | AbsoRayne | kamdis: Aparently |
| 23:49.17 | Lunessa | Gngsk: look for the IsKeyDown API on WoWWiki |
| 23:49.19 | Guillotine | recently I've been doing one or two words in Dvorak randomly on my qwerty keyboard >< |
| 23:49.56 | Gngsk | Lunessa, I am tryin' to do this with the securestateheader, and I found the SecureUpDownTemplate, but I get an error when I try to inherit it |
| 23:50.36 | Josh_Borke | how do i compile a java program? |
| 23:50.45 | kd3 | javac foo.java? |
| 23:50.58 | Josh_Borke | ok, i did that, but i can't run the class with java foo.class |
| 23:51.06 | kd3 | try 'java foo' |
| 23:51.22 | Josh_Borke | oo, thanks |
| 23:52.06 | Josh_Borke | gd pos |
| 23:52.15 | Josh_Borke | Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: MultiCastZoo (wrong name: MultiCastZoo/MultiCastZoo) |
| 23:52.20 | Josh_Borke | this is a stupid pos program |
| 23:52.26 | Josh_Borke | http://chrislee.dhs.org/pages/classes/netseclab/MultiCastZoo.tgz |
| 23:52.32 | Josh_Borke | is all i was told and i have to get it running |
| 23:53.05 | Lunessa | Gngsk: I've not meddled at all with those so I'm not the right guy to ask. However - I think you're going to need to look at the SecureActionButton stuff too. |
| 23:53.57 | Gngsk | Lunessa, yah, I have a SecureActionButton. Took me a while, but I have everything I want working with a click to toggle show/hide. I just want to make it so I can hold the key to show and let go to hide. |
| 23:54.56 | Lunessa | Gngsk: Then you've gotten further than i can help you with, sorry. I'd ask Cogwheel, Alestasne, or Iriel. Or Maul if he's around. |
| 23:55.02 | Gngsk | I guess my issue is that the comments in the SecureStateHeader.lua say there's a SecureUpDownTemplate but it isn't defined in the xml. Prolly some other way to do it. |
| 23:55.24 | Gngsk | Lunessa, thx I guess I'll just lurk until one of them becomes active. |
| 23:56.08 | Gngsk | oh, hmm, guess it's just a typo in the comments, it refers to SecureUpDownTemplate when it should be SecureAnchorUpDownTemplate, but that makes more sense in the end |
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| 23:58.25 | Lunessa | *nod* Glad I could at least point you in the right direction. |
