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| 00:06.59 | Dreagar | i think i need to find a better way to close the frame when the worldmap comes open, or figure out how to make the worldmap useable when my MM_Frame is open. |
| 00:07.03 | Dreagar | but dinner first. |
| 00:10.59 | Drundia | i have a strange feeling that it removes a percentage of all stored combat log messages under certain circumstances, so it balances it somehow |
| 00:11.24 | Drundia | it often stops between 5k and 10k |
| 00:11.34 | Drundia | in 25-man can go around 30k though |
| 00:21.26 | Drundia | Iriel, ScrollingMessageFrame:ScrollUp() takes about 3 ms per call.... |
| 00:22.16 | Iriel | That shouldn't be an issue unless you've got some reason to call it lots of times |
| 00:22.37 | Drundia | SetScrollOffset() is much faster |
| 00:22.41 | Iriel | well, shouldn't be a /HUGE/ issue. |
| 00:22.54 | Iriel | Really? even for an equivalent scroll? |
| 00:22.56 | Drundia | i think it does similar crap when it scrolls by adding |
| 00:23.01 | Drundia | well |
| 00:23.03 | Drundia | i did |
| 00:23.22 | Drundia | debugprofilestart(); for i=1,1 do ChatFrame2:SetScrollOffset(100+20*i) end; print(debugprofilestop()); |
| 00:23.25 | Drundia | then used 1,10 |
| 00:23.28 | Drundia | then 1,100 |
| 00:23.34 | Drundia | 10 and 100 were nearly the same |
| 00:23.42 | Drundia | with being slightly longer than 1 |
| 00:23.48 | Drundia | about 10 times |
| 00:23.53 | Drundia | or 15 |
| 00:23.58 | Drundia | which is number of visible messages |
| 00:24.17 | Drundia | though it's still weird |
| 00:24.31 | Corrodias | huh |
| 00:29.02 | Drundia | hmm |
| 00:29.20 | Drundia | on ChatFrame1 it's 2 ms per ScrollUp, on ChatFrame2 it's 3.3..... |
| 00:29.44 | Drundia | something is messy there |
| 00:29.53 | Drundia | probably it's getting somewhat slowed by number of lines in it |
| 00:31.03 | lagger` | um |
| 00:31.06 | lagger` | why does creating an editbox |
| 00:31.11 | lagger` | make me lose all controls on my keyboard |
| 00:31.31 | Drundia | because it becomes visible and takes focus? |
| 00:31.58 | lagger` | how do i prevent that |
| 00:32.15 | Drundia | try hiding it after creation |
| 00:32.36 | lagger` | if i show it will it take focus |
| 00:32.58 | Drundia | most likely yes |
| 00:33.09 | Drundia | i think they by default receive input focus when get shown |
| 00:33.21 | lagger` | hm |
| 00:33.24 | lagger` | how do ppl make edit boxes |
| 00:33.26 | lagger` | that dont take focus |
| 00:33.29 | lagger` | when shown |
| 00:34.21 | Drundia | probably EditBox:SetAutoFocus(false) |
| 00:34.52 | lagger` | o |
| 00:34.53 | lagger` | thx |
| 00:34.54 | lagger` | how annoying |
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| 01:04.30 | Guillotine | Anybody remember where default colors for certain things are stored? (e.g. system messages) |
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| 01:06.49 | Dreagar | how can i hook ToggleWorldMap()? |
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| 01:08.43 | Industrial | local a=ToggleWorldMap b=function() a() mystuffhere end ToggleWorldMap=b |
| 01:08.51 | Dreagar | cause i can't find a n event that relates to when the worldmap is open or closed. |
| 01:08.57 | Industrial | depending on if that is a secure function or not |
| 01:09.23 | Industrial | Dreagar: you can hook the world map frame :Show() for that |
| 01:10.27 | Dreagar | ahh right on, so local a=WorldMapButton:Show b=function() a() mystuff end |
| 01:10.28 | Dreagar | ? |
| 01:11.12 | Industrial | sec starting wow :p |
| 01:11.51 | Dreagar | all i wanna do is hide my addon frame when the worldmap is open. |
| 01:12.25 | Dreagar | show it again when it closes, and if it was closed before i opened the worldmap, it shouldn't reopen when i close the map. |
| 01:12.50 | Drundia | it should auto-hide |
| 01:12.57 | Drundia | when world map opens uiparent hides |
| 01:13.34 | Dreagar | it don't, and so i can't make any changes to the worldmap if my addon is open. |
| 01:13.42 | Dreagar | and my addon is a child of UIParent |
| 01:14.31 | Dreagar | i'm useing cartographer as well |
| 01:15.27 | Industrial | hmm, dunno :\ |
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| 01:17.53 | Dreagar | i have it kinda working right now using the WORLD_MAP_UPDATE event. works fine, except when u close the mod before hand, and reopen using the slash command. then a boolean gets changed, somehow and wont clsoe teh window when you open the map again afterwards. |
| 01:18.03 | Guillotine | Has anybody found where default system message color is stored in 2.4 yet? |
| 01:18.08 | Dreagar | it's really crazy |
| 01:19.02 | Drundia | the same place where always isn't it? |
| 01:19.43 | Guillotine | Drundia: not that I see |
| 01:20.27 | Dreagar | http://www.pastey.net/84690 |
| 01:20.52 | Drundia | isn't it in chat_cache.txt? |
| 01:20.58 | Drundia | i see its entry is still there |
| 01:21.17 | Drundia | chat-cache.txt even |
| 01:21.57 | Dreagar | would anyne mind lookin at the pastey and help me figure out how the MM_Closed boolean is gettin changed to true somehow when i open and close the mod manually? works fine until i hit the X and use the slash toopen it. the slash resets MM_Closed to false, but when u hit the worldmap after u do this the MM_Clsoed is suddenly true again |
| 01:22.06 | Dreagar | and it's not runnin the slash command again |
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| 01:33.13 | Dreagar | just rewrote it a bit. wish me luck. :) |
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| 01:37.18 | Dreagar | dangit |
| 01:38.29 | Dreagar | how can i tell when a variable is changed? like is there a way to make it print out and let me know at what point it gets changed? cause it looks like it's happening still. even tho i took out the other variable. |
| 01:39.13 | MentalPower | Dreagar: you can change the direct variable change to a function call |
| 01:39.20 | MentalPower | thats easiest |
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| 01:40.40 | MentalPower | or you can use some fancy metatable tricks, but thats harder |
| 01:41.56 | Dreagar | ah, i understand. instead of doing MM_Closed = true do changeTrue() MM_Close = true debug statement end or use an if statement to toggle it with a debug in there right? |
| 01:47.45 | Dreagar | mental you're a god. :) i did that, and problem solved. |
| 01:47.48 | Dreagar | :) thanks |
| 01:48.09 | Dreagar | all works as expected. :) now i have to add the option to have it go invisible till mouseover. |
| 01:48.23 | Dreagar | worships mentalpower |
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| 01:48.31 | Dreagar | i can go give my daughter a bath now. :) |
| 01:53.23 | MentalPower | lol, allright |
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| 02:12.53 | Gngsk | anyone know when Antiarc|Gone is gonna be back around? |
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| 02:16.09 | dylanm | Gone for the weekend he said. |
| 02:16.26 | dylanm | So at the very least not tonight. |
| 02:17.00 | Guillotine | Best addon EVAR: http://www.geocities.com/curse.guillotine/Rolled.html |
| 02:17.42 | Cide | haha |
| 02:17.43 | Gnarfoz | Guillotine: I see what you did thar. |
| 02:17.44 | Cide | that's awesome |
| 02:17.47 | Guillotine | wait |
| 02:17.49 | Guillotine | you have to try it |
| 02:17.54 | Guillotine | its better than you think |
| 02:18.01 | Cide | I'm sure it is |
| 02:18.04 | Guillotine | FAR better |
| 02:18.11 | Gnarfoz | it somehow is quite a bit bigger than I'd expect of a pure-code lua addon... ;) |
| 02:18.16 | Cide | "Note that the addon is rather large due to the advanced algorithm" -- golden |
| 02:18.32 | dylanm | 7.3 megs of algorithms. |
| 02:18.39 | Cide | VERY advanced |
| 02:19.22 | ScytheBlade1 | loool |
| 02:19.39 | Cide | haha wow, I had no idea you could play avi's |
| 02:19.42 | Cide | that's great |
| 02:19.57 | Guillotine | we just spent about an hour getting it to work |
| 02:20.02 | Guillotine | it was so worth it though |
| 02:20.04 | Gnarfoz | should probably have renamed it to something other than .avi, I'd guess WoW only cares for MIME type anyway |
| 02:20.07 | Cide | the api seems quite simple |
| 02:20.23 | Gnarfoz | anyway, I actually like the damn song xD |
| 02:20.24 | Guillotine | the video has to be a very specific OLD codec though |
| 02:20.30 | Gnarfoz | DXGM |
| 02:20.31 | Cide | ah |
| 02:20.33 | Guillotine | with certain dimensions |
| 02:20.33 | Gnarfoz | whatever the hell is that? |
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| 02:21.02 | Gnarfoz | Video: DXGM 800x368 25.00fps 252Kbps o_O |
| 02:21.14 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:21.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Apt variable |
| 02:21.21 | Gnarfoz | indeed. xD |
| 02:21.40 | Gnarfoz | this is probably the most awesome addon in quite a while. ;) |
| 02:21.44 | Guillotine | indeed |
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| 02:21.55 | Guillotine | we're making sure blizz has no problem with it before putting it on all the major addon sites though |
| 02:21.55 | Gnarfoz | you get one of these: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9a/Choco_chip_cookie.jpg |
| 02:22.20 | Gnarfoz | tried anything to reduce it further in size? |
| 02:22.37 | Guillotine | yup |
| 02:22.58 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm telling you. LibSocket would be awesome. |
| 02:23.03 | Guillotine | though not a whole lot |
| 02:23.05 | ScytheBlade1 | You could stream the movie to their computer! |
| 02:23.06 | Gnarfoz | hmm audio is already at 44.1/mono/64kbps :\ |
| 02:23.33 | Guillotine | I suppose we don't really need the entire song. Most people will close it as soon as the first 25 secs are over |
| 02:24.23 | Gnarfoz | yep, should probably cut it off, or maybe just kill the vid and keep the audio "rolling" |
| 02:24.40 | Gnarfoz | 7+ mb is probably quite obvious ^^ |
| 02:24.47 | Guillotine | yah :( |
| 02:25.06 | Guillotine | though I'm sure quite a few people will download it just to see what the hell is going on |
| 02:25.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Honest question |
| 02:25.30 | art3mis | you got movie playing in wow working? |
| 02:25.32 | ScytheBlade1 | HOW DID YOU GET THOSE ROLLS |
| 02:25.35 | ScytheBlade1 | HOW |
| 02:25.41 | Gnarfoz | photoshop imo |
| 02:25.55 | Cide | >>> 1(1/100^5) |
| 02:26.02 | Cide | >>> 100^5 |
| 02:26.03 | Cide | Cide: 10000000000 |
| 02:26.04 | Gnarfoz | actually, no, could just use script commands to output that into chat |
| 02:26.08 | Guillotine | that |
| 02:26.09 | Cide | you just roll... that many rolls |
| 02:26.11 | art3mis | hahaha |
| 02:26.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh. |
| 02:26.14 | Cide | and you get those numbers, on average |
| 02:26.21 | art3mis | Guillotine: add in the lyrics beig pasted to guild |
| 02:26.22 | Cide | once every 10000000000 rolls |
| 02:26.27 | Gnarfoz | art3mis: WIN |
| 02:26.34 | Cide | actually once every 10000000000 sets of rolls |
| 02:26.36 | Guillotine | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("Guillotine rolls 98 (1-100)",1,1,0) |
| 02:26.50 | Cide | oh no you didn't |
| 02:27.10 | Gnarfoz | actually, /that/ might then be considered spamming |
| 02:27.17 | Guillotine | yah, not going to do that |
| 02:27.32 | art3mis | hehe if you roll 100 in a /random it spawns it and plays the music |
| 02:27.43 | batrick | does wow query the server for those numbers when you make the roll via /random or no? |
| 02:27.45 | Gnarfoz | this should have gone into one of the high profile addons like Omen or something. xD |
| 02:27.55 | Gnarfoz | batrick: yes, it's server side |
| 02:27.59 | Guillotine | Gnarfoz: put it in Ace2 on the SVN imo |
| 02:28.06 | Gnarfoz | Guillotine: oslt. ;> |
| 02:28.14 | Guillotine | oslt? |
| 02:28.27 | Gnarfoz | ~oslt |
| 02:28.28 | purl | it has been said that oslt is "or something like that", in vepeti dialect of english. |
| 02:28.31 | Guillotine | ah |
| 02:28.36 | Gnarfoz | ~vepeti |
| 02:28.39 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 02:29.08 | Guillotine | anyway, feel free to distribute the addon to everyone in your guild |
| 02:29.22 | Guillotine | or try to lower the size of the movie if you can |
| 02:29.39 | Gnarfoz | it's sad when you can be quite sure purl has a factoid for something you yourself only picked up in IRC, and then you don't understand the explanation :D |
| 02:29.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow. Know what I need to do? Clean up my home directory. |
| 02:29.51 | ScytheBlade1 | This... this is a mess and a half |
| 02:30.04 | batrick | rm -f ~/* |
| 02:30.07 | batrick | fixed |
| 02:30.18 | ScytheBlade1 | cd work; ls # OH HEY LOOK THREE DISTROS INSTALLED IN A SINGLE DIRECTORY |
| 02:30.18 | Gnarfoz | Guillotine: I'd say chop off some of the movie before trying mass distribution, but I'm sure as hell gonna put that on my Guild's forums come April 1st. ;> |
| 02:30.31 | Guillotine | Gnarfoz: yah, will probably do that |
| 02:31.08 | Gnarfoz | now, to download www.andlinux.org |
| 02:31.18 | ScytheBlade1 | I also need to check out my SVN repo, nuke it, and set it up again.. |
| 02:31.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Of course |
| 02:31.42 | ScytheBlade1 | I can't remember where I put it.. |
| 02:33.00 | ScytheBlade1 | This is embarassing. Few people manage to lose their personal SVN repo... URL. |
| 02:33.03 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 02:33.07 | Guillotine | lol |
| 02:33.55 | Cide | ScytheBlade1: svn://127.0.0.1 |
| 02:34.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide: you'd think it'd be that easy, but alas, it is not |
| 02:35.02 | Cide | clearly you fail |
| 02:35.04 | Cide | epochly |
| 02:35.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Repository Root: https://kyle.aboveaverageurl.com/ScytheBlade1 |
| 02:35.16 | ScytheBlade1 | That doesn't even exist anymore |
| 02:35.20 | ScytheBlade1 | So it's like |
| 02:35.24 | ScytheBlade1 | I have no idea.. |
| 02:36.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh hey my taxes |
| 02:36.50 | ScytheBlade1 | I shouldn't leave those docs sitting around.. |
| 02:37.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Haha |
| 02:37.16 | ScytheBlade1 | UICentralSetup-1194307582.zip |
| 02:37.19 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ good times |
| 02:37.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Trojan anyone? |
| 02:37.38 | Cide | I'd like some, thank you |
| 02:38.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Solutions.pdf444 <-- I was spamming scorch while trying to download that PDF, I can tell |
| 02:38.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Failing, but trying! |
| 02:39.27 | Drundia | hmm distribute rolling addon to everyon in your guild and when doing a roll instance make it always report 100 for your rolls |
| 02:39.33 | Drundia | not real rolls ofc |
| 02:39.48 | Cide | that's stupid |
| 02:40.35 | Drundia | omg you suck, who binds scorch to 4..... haha |
| 02:40.52 | Cide | fire mages? |
| 02:41.00 | Drundia | scorch is much better at like 5 or 3 |
| 02:41.25 | ScytheBlade1 | 3 = fireblst |
| 02:41.27 | ScytheBlade1 | *fireblast |
| 02:41.30 | ScytheBlade1 | 2 = fireball |
| 02:41.37 | ScytheBlade1 | What other buttons do you need to raid as fire? |
| 02:41.46 | Drundia | wand! |
| 02:41.57 | ScytheBlade1 | ctrl+x |
| 02:42.22 | ScytheBlade1 | And why do I have a copy of my MBR in my home directory |
| 02:42.33 | ScytheBlade1 | What purpose does that serve? Who backs up their MBR? |
| 02:42.35 | Drundia | sheep, mana gem, evo,... some random whine macro |
| 02:42.52 | ScytheBlade1 | ctrl+mouse4, numpad3, numpad *, alt+4 |
| 02:43.08 | Drundia | ooh alt+4 |
| 02:43.12 | Drundia | what whine macro is that? |
| 02:43.29 | testlek | ctrl alt backspace |
| 02:43.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Whines in the mage channel that I'm casting scorch, telling the other mages to do the same, because it dropped from the mob |
| 02:45.01 | Drundia | sounds good, i should make a macro telling mages to respec scorch from their super arcane and frost specs. my incinerates don't do enough damage then. |
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| 02:45.17 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 02:45.27 | ScytheBlade1 | "BMB.img" |
| 02:45.30 | ScytheBlade1 | I don't even know what that is |
| 02:45.39 | ScytheBlade1 | But supposedly it's a UDF ISO |
| 02:48.19 | Drundia | hmm were args (self,elapsed) for OnUpdate? |
| 02:48.42 | QforQ | Does anyone in here ever do any WOW RP events? |
| 02:49.58 | ScytheBlade1 | ~/a.out |
| 02:50.06 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm tempted to run that, and yet, I think I shouldn't |
| 02:50.17 | ScytheBlade1 | ~/do_not_run_me |
| 02:50.17 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 02:50.24 | ScytheBlade1 | I hate me |
| 02:56.06 | ScytheBlade1 | echo sha1("67.166.67.223" . "rararararmuahahahahhahahahahahahahaha!!!!possum5556"); |
| 02:56.17 | ScytheBlade1 | I have the most creative PHP scripts laying around, I swear |
| 02:57.05 | MentalPower | lol |
| 02:58.41 | ScytheBlade1 | That's the only line in it |
| 03:01.04 | MentalPower | lol |
| 03:02.10 | haste | sys_rage: why does it have two ags :p ? |
| 03:02.13 | haste | args* |
| 03:02.21 | haste | oh wait, sha1 does take two args |
| 03:02.28 | haste | but the second is a bool! |
| 03:02.56 | haste | oh wait, that's a dot :( |
| 03:03.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Wrong s[tab] :) |
| 03:03.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup, that's a dot |
| 03:03.11 | ScytheBlade1 | That's concat |
| 03:03.12 | haste | that too |
| 03:03.22 | haste | guess I'll hit the sack, enough alcohol in my blood it seems |
| 03:03.32 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:03.35 | ScytheBlade1 | glhf |
| 03:03.56 | haste | (yesI'm getting up in 4 hours) and gn |
| 03:03.58 | Cairenn | lol, night haste |
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| 03:09.40 | art3mis | boobies! |
| 03:09.40 | art3mis | yay \o/ |
| 03:09.54 | Drundia | oh noes Iriel disappeared already... |
| 03:10.34 | ScytheBlade1 | image2.img: \0xb6 \0xdb |
| 03:10.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Repeated for 500MB |
| 03:10.40 | ScytheBlade1 | What. |
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| 03:23.26 | Cide | Guillotine: ping |
| 03:24.25 | batrick | Guillotine: ping |
| 03:24.33 | Cide | Guillotine: ping |
| 03:24.36 | batrick | Guillotine: ping |
| 03:24.37 | Cide | Guillotine: ping |
| 03:24.40 | batrick | Guillotine: ping |
| 03:24.45 | Cide | bah. |
| 03:24.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Guillotine: ping |
| 03:25.14 | Cide | well, he's afk and I'm going to bed |
| 03:25.25 | Cide | I think we need a level 1 forum alt asking if "Rolled" is legal. |
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| 03:26.02 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:26.39 | NightHawkTheSane | "Doctor Jackson, if you don't mind treating my wound." "I'm an archeologist." "I know, but you're also a doctor." "... of archeology." |
| 03:27.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh hey |
| 03:27.48 | ScytheBlade1 | 26GB in ~/torrents/downloaded that I forgot existed |
| 03:27.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Including 3 xbox ISOs, huh |
| 03:30.29 | Guillotine | Cide: we already have emails sent into Blizz asking |
| 03:30.44 | Cide | ? |
| 03:30.50 | Guillotine | if rolled is legal |
| 03:31.00 | Cide | I'm not following |
| 03:31.08 | Guillotine | (8:25:19 PM) Cide: I think we need a level 1 forum alt asking if "Rolled" is legal. |
| 03:31.14 | Cide | I got that part |
| 03:31.16 | Cide | but why email blizz? |
| 03:31.25 | NightHawkTheSane | "Rolled"? |
| 03:31.28 | Guillotine | because it forces people to view something they don't want to |
| 03:31.36 | Cide | Guillotine: you obviously misunderstood my purpose |
| 03:31.37 | Guillotine | NightHawkTheSane: http://www.geocities.com/curse.guillotine/Rolled.html |
| 03:31.41 | Guillotine | Cide: I know, it was a joke |
| 03:31.45 | Guillotine | but I'm serious |
| 03:31.49 | Cide | well I wasn't |
| 03:31.58 | Cide | I'm sure it's legal |
| 03:32.04 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 |
| 03:32.05 | Cide | and if it isn't, well, it isn't |
| 03:32.07 | Guillotine | I think so too, but Cair insisted on asking :P |
| 03:32.16 | Cairenn | no, I didn't insist |
| 03:32.21 | Guillotine | suggested |
| 03:32.33 | Cairenn | I said you might want to, and that if you did, I'd be willing to use my contacts for you |
| 03:33.04 | Guillotine | that |
| 03:33.07 | Guillotine | lol |
| 03:33.07 | MentalPower | I insisted |
| 03:33.33 | Guillotine | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:33.45 | Cairenn | no worries |
| 03:33.47 | Cairenn | :) |
| 03:33.54 | Guillotine | Cide: but yah, either way we'll post something on the official forums on April 1st to bring more attention to it |
| 03:36.43 | AlexanderYoshi | How about I just tell you that while not illegal, its obviously lame and childish |
| 03:36.51 | AlexanderYoshi | and you should save yourself the trouble |
| 03:37.00 | AlexanderYoshi | because it only takes one person to realize the hoax |
| 03:37.15 | AlexanderYoshi | and you'll always have 1 raidier without the company addon package |
| 03:38.04 | Cide | are you talking about the "fake your own rolls" thin? |
| 03:38.15 | Cide | Rolled.. well.. 'rolls |
| 03:38.39 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:41.58 | AlexanderYoshi | no, I read cide's stuff |
| 03:42.10 | Kirov | mt? |
| 03:42.18 | Cairenn | lol |
| 03:44.49 | Guillotine | AlexanderYoshi: yes, it is childish and lame :P But getting a video to work in WoW was the major thing |
| 03:44.56 | Guillotine | and this is just a silly addition for April Fools |
| 03:45.44 | Guillotine | And I at least expect most people to know its a fake and just try it to see what it does |
| 03:45.53 | Guillotine | I mean, thats what everyone in this channel that tried it did (I hope) |
| 03:46.02 | AlexanderYoshi | oh I see |
| 03:46.05 | AlexanderYoshi | rotflcopters |
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| 03:47.25 | Guillotine | but finding the way to make videos work in WoW was a big thing and has some real practical applications. E.g. a guild distributes videos with simple boss fight strategies and the GM can just have it go on everybody's screen at once. |
| 03:48.04 | Cairenn | so this is a proof of concept, and also making sure that it's "legit" in Blizz's eyes |
| 03:48.09 | Cairenn | all done in an amusing manner |
| 03:48.16 | Guillotine | Pretty much, ya :) |
| 03:50.19 | kd3 | huh @ http://us.gorgonnash.info |
| 03:50.33 | kd3 | that's twice we've had to resort to third-party sites to keep track of cross-realm races now |
| 03:52.11 | AlexanderYoshi | *shrug* |
| 03:52.17 | AlexanderYoshi | its not really a race that means anything anymore |
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| 03:52.54 | kd3 | meh... I'm a Medivhian... those of us that were there are still somewhat proud of winning AQ |
| 03:53.46 | AlexanderYoshi | ahhh |
| 03:54.12 | Guillotine | btw, if anyone intends to distribute the Rolled addon to their guild, there is now a smaller version (much shorter version of the video/song) http://www.geocities.com/curse.guillotine/Rolled.html |
| 03:54.58 | Guillotine | 1.5mb instead of 7.5 |
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| 04:05.24 | Drundia | do extra shattered sun peacekeepers sometimes spawn? |
| 04:05.39 | kd3 | if there's pvp action going on in town |
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| 04:07.27 | kd3 | wth at the random keylogger posts in general? |
| 04:07.39 | Cairenn | ? |
| 04:07.50 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5640864514&sid=1#4 |
| 04:07.51 | Drundia | they seem to spawn in areas where are people who aggroed guards |
| 04:08.06 | Drundia | can you spawn them all over isle? :p |
| 04:08.33 | kd3 | if there's a concerted effort, probably |
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| 04:09.11 | Amarande | kd3: who knows, maybe they're making more advanced wormish keyloggers now |
| 04:09.31 | Amarande | maybe once they learn what they believe to be your wow password, they're programmed to go to the WoW forums, log in and post |
| 04:10.17 | kd3 | all hail running firefox+noscript in linux |
| 04:10.21 | Drundia | haha |
| 04:10.29 | Drundia | i should get naked and spawn guards all over isle |
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| 04:14.05 | Fritz | Does anyone here take requests..? I'm wondering if it's possible to set up a custom keybinding that will do '/cast Ice Block' whenever I not only push down its key, but release it as well. |
| 04:15.19 | Drundia | it's possible with some secure templates |
| 04:15.28 | Drundia | not sure if you can bind directly an action |
| 04:16.07 | Fritz | I switched to TrinityBars2 which has an 'Enable Down Clicks' feature which makes all its buttons cast on pushing down rather than releasing. The problem is while it's helped my counterspells, it's thrown off my ice block timing. |
| 04:16.55 | Gngsk | Antiarc|Gone, plz come back! |
| 04:16.56 | Fritz | I'm trying to see if its possible to get the best of both worlds, here. |
| 04:17.05 | Drundia | you can try to find that button name and do something like /script ThatButtonName:RegisterForClicks("AllUp") |
| 04:17.29 | Drundia | getting both worlds could be like /script ThatButtonName:RegisterForClicks("AllUp","AllDown") |
| 04:17.38 | Drundia | or actually |
| 04:17.43 | Drundia | "AnyUp", "AnyDown" |
| 04:17.57 | Fritz | Let me try it out |
| 04:18.05 | Drundia | but find that button name first |
| 04:18.28 | Drundia | and tell addon develepor that he should make such setting per-button and make both at the same time possible too |
| 04:18.36 | Fritz | TrinityActionButton1 is what I'll test with |
| 04:18.40 | Fritz | And I already did Drundia |
| 04:18.46 | dylanm | Maul is in here at times. |
| 04:18.58 | Amarande | Fritz: trinity bars? :| |
| 04:19.00 | Amarande | I tried that addon once |
| 04:19.04 | Fritz | Oh sweet |
| 04:19.05 | Fritz | IT works |
| 04:19.06 | Amarande | Bartender all the way lol |
| 04:20.07 | Fritz | Thank you so much Drundia, this'll tide me over at the very least. Love you for it. Now not to be picky, but it would be nice if I could get this to automatically apply to this specific button every time I booted up my game |
| 04:20.25 | Fritz | Actually hold on |
| 04:20.36 | Fritz | I got a fix someone helped me with for Pitbull, let me see if I can copy that and tweak it for TrinityBars2 |
| 04:22.00 | Fritz | http://ace.pastey.net/84702 Will this work? |
| 04:23.05 | Guillotine | no |
| 04:23.12 | Guillotine | just delete the function |
| 04:23.19 | Drundia | maybe if you hook it properly |
| 04:23.31 | Drundia | you probably can't do it until it loads settings |
| 04:23.57 | Drundia | so it should be done around time "VARIABLES_LOADED" fires |
| 04:24.08 | Drundia | or maybe "PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD" |
| 04:24.22 | Fritz | Oh hang on. |
| 04:24.25 | Fritz | I messed that all up |
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| 04:24.32 | Fritz | Cause I'm dumb |
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| 04:24.32 | Fritz | sec |
| 04:24.42 | Drundia | though at some points it may fail in combat |
| 04:25.12 | Fritz | http://ace.pastey.net/84703 |
| 04:25.14 | NightHawkTheSane | Hmm, apparently killing skettis trees as a resto shaman isn't as painful as i thought it would be |
| 04:25.17 | Fritz | Why would it fail in combat? |
| 04:26.02 | Drundia | if you log in in combat during some events you will already be in combat and i think you can't RegisterForClicks protected buttons at that point |
| 04:26.34 | Amarande | even soloing quests as a holy priest isn't all that painful |
| 04:26.36 | Amarande | just kinda slow, though |
| 04:26.39 | Fritz | That would only apply if I did reloadui during combat though.. |
| 04:26.45 | Amarande | then again, it really doesn't feel that much slower than doing it as a shadow priest |
| 04:26.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: well, the issue with the trees is that they're immune to nature damage. :P |
| 04:27.01 | NightHawkTheSane | and LB being my only nuke. :P |
| 04:27.13 | Fritz | Hmm that didn't seem to work. |
| 04:28.09 | Fritz | Is there an addon that will run a script every time I log in? |
| 04:28.23 | Fritz | or should I simply remember to do this until the mod author gets around to it? |
| 04:29.00 | NightHawkTheSane | mods -are- scripts that run when you log in. it'd be trivial to just make a simple addon with those commands |
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| 04:30.41 | Fritz | Well apparently not, I just tried and it didn't work |
| 04:31.13 | Drundia | best way to go is to put that code around place in trinitybars code where button settings are updated |
| 04:31.26 | Drundia | try to search the code for RegisterForClicks |
| 04:31.41 | Drundia | and put it somewhere after |
| 04:32.15 | Fritz | Kay I think I found it. |
| 04:34.13 | Fritz | Sweet it worked. |
| 04:34.16 | Fritz | Thanks guys. |
| 04:34.21 | Fritz | This'll help a ton. |
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| 05:25.52 | Cairenn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5640644590&sid=1 |
| 05:26.37 | dylanm_ | INSERT CLADHAIRE PROMO |
| 05:26.54 | Cairenn | true 'dat |
| 05:27.10 | NightHawkTheSane | anyone wnat to offer advice on where i'd look to figure out how to programatically adjust chatframe settings? |
| 05:27.37 | Cairenn | ~wowprogramming |
| 05:27.38 | purl | from memory, wowprogramming is World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons, a book written by Cladhaire, Kaelten and Cogwheel. It serves as a technical reference for the WoW API and customization system (Due out Early 2008). http://tinyurl.com/2vtlya |
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| 05:45.14 | Drundia | what's armory character update cooldown? |
| 05:45.37 | Amarande | say, is the bot that calculates how well geared your character is around? |
| 05:45.38 | widgertick | It's variable depending on server load |
| 05:46.35 | Drundia | 7:46 IGT for Europe, how less loaded can it be? :\ |
| 05:46.58 | Drundia | i want to abuse some find an upgrade..... |
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| 06:06.00 | Adys | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAyBaNwDX8c that may be old but its plain awesome |
| 06:06.54 | Drundia | Iriel, my latest tests with ScrollingMessageFrame show that calls to AddMessage and all *Scroll* functions have very comparable overhead per call if visible change is actually different |
| 06:07.11 | Drundia | that explains reasons why 100 and 1000 AddMessage('test') took nearly the same time |
| 06:07.17 | Drundia | same messages = no overhead |
| 06:07.48 | Iriel | so it's absolutely related to rendering time? |
| 06:07.56 | Iriel | i.e. time to render new messages |
| 06:07.58 | Drundia | more like to function calls |
| 06:08.14 | Drundia | MessageFrame doesn't have such lag... though i'll try making very big one |
| 06:08.21 | Drundia | that actually got me an extra idea |
| 06:09.02 | Iriel | So if you make a scrolling message frame with say, 10,000 lines of text, and do 5,000 single line scrolls, versus 5,000 completely random offset changes, do you expect them to take the SAME length oftime, or the random offsets to be significantly worse |
| 06:09.48 | Drundia | random offsets maybe will take two times longer |
| 06:10.07 | Drundia | but that's worth a try too |
| 06:10.39 | Iriel | I should have added 'with 20 visible lines' |
| 06:11.56 | Drundia | right now i have 15 visible there and filled 10000 lines with random() |
| 06:12.28 | Drundia | now let's do some random scrolling with let's say 500, 5000 make take forever :) |
| 06:13.01 | Shirik|Ecole | why's that? |
| 06:13.05 | Shirik|Ecole | 5000 isn't a very large number |
| 06:13.22 | Drundia | 203ms with up spam |
| 06:13.34 | Drundia | 199ms with SetScrollOffset(random(10000) |
| 06:13.40 | Drundia | ) |
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| 06:14.24 | Iriel | Single line scrolls versus multiple line (i.e. generally larger than the number of visible line) scrolls would let us tell if it's the actual rendering, or just figuring out what to render. |
| 06:14.39 | Iriel | Assuming (perhaps incorrectly) that it's smart enough not to re-render the whole thing if you change just a little. |
| 06:15.11 | Shirik|Ecole | When you do an AddMessage() call does it immediately update the frame or just queue it? Just curious |
| 06:15.35 | Drundia | apparently it causes lag so it calls to scroll immediately |
| 06:16.03 | Drundia | but what you see shouldn't update before next OnUpdate calls cycle |
| 06:16.19 | Tem | Shirik|Ecole, immediately |
| 06:17.03 | Drundia | about 2 seconds with 5000 |
| 06:17.17 | Drundia | 2025 and 2005 ms to be more precise |
| 06:17.24 | Drundia | so it seems any amount of scrolling results in the same overhead per function call |
| 06:19.14 | Iriel | How far are you scrolling it between tests? |
| 06:19.25 | Iriel | if your tests are say 500 and 5000 then I dont think that's a fair test |
| 06:19.30 | Iriel | If it's 1 and 500 then it is |
| 06:19.54 | Drundia | what do you mean between tests? |
| 06:19.58 | Drundia | i start at bottom |
| 06:20.03 | Drundia | in both cases |
| 06:20.07 | Drundia | 10000 lines |
| 06:20.09 | Drundia | 5000 calls |
| 06:20.15 | Drundia | let's make it 10000 calls |
| 06:21.11 | Drundia | 4095 and 4209 |
| 06:21.24 | Iriel | What are your 'calls' doing though |
| 06:22.12 | Drundia | first i prepare: ChatFrame2:SetMaxLines(10000); for i=1,10000 do ChatFrame2:AddMessage(random()); |
| 06:22.36 | Drundia | debugprofilestart(); for i=1,10000 do ChatFrame2:SetScrollOffset(random(10000)) end; print(debugprofilestop()); |
| 06:22.45 | Drundia | debugprofilestart(); for i=1,10000 do ChatFrame2:ScrollUp() end; print(debugprofilestop()); |
| 06:23.03 | Iriel | Aha, can you do a variant of the first, and use SetScrollOffset(i) ? |
| 06:23.05 | Drundia | should we find overhead of random()? |
| 06:23.20 | Iriel | you could just do local x = random() in the loop |
| 06:23.35 | Drundia | 4114 |
| 06:24.11 | Drundia | 1.73ms for 10k |
| 06:24.19 | Iriel | 1.73 ms or 1.73 s? |
| 06:24.25 | Drundia | ms |
| 06:24.39 | Drundia | debugprofilestart(); for i=1,10000 do local x=random() end; print(debugprofilestop()); |
| 06:24.43 | Guillotine | err, is it just me, or is there someone in the channel named '['? |
| 06:25.06 | Cairenn | yep |
| 06:25.08 | Adys | ]s [ |
| 06:26.01 | Iriel | Drundia:Ah, I see.. I actually meant put a local x = random() with the :ScrollUp() to make it a fair comparison, but (as expected) it's so low it doesn't matter |
| 06:26.27 | Arcaia | rogues need 2-handers |
| 06:26.52 | Arcaia | because http://www.randomfew.net/random.public/wowscreens/WoWScrnShot_032908_192235.jpg is just hawt. |
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| 06:29.32 | Drundia | MessageFrame doesn't seem to have any extra overhead on AddMessage while it has to update some visibility in any way |
| 06:33.21 | Drundia | and now those 10k things are along lines of 4.4s |
| 06:33.31 | Drundia | so i think if i play a bit more it will take some more |
| 06:34.03 | Drundia | after all i had that 3ms overhead per call as opposed to current 0.4ms |
| 06:34.20 | Drundia | or i could mess up there something or jsut forgot it already |
| 06:34.23 | Drundia | or it could be 0.3 |
| 06:34.46 | Iriel | Sounds like 0.4 unless one of us can't divide by 10 |
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| 06:35.12 | Iriel | Now here's a fun test.. what if you :Hide() the frame while you're doing it |
| 06:35.23 | Drundia | it works fine really |
| 06:35.24 | Iriel | an optimization for rapid adds may be hide, add, add, add, add, add, add, show |
| 06:35.29 | Drundia | when i hid it |
| 06:35.37 | Drundia | or scroll up one line that all the way to bottom |
| 06:35.49 | Drundia | s/that/then |
| 06:35.53 | Drundia | or how was it? |
| 06:35.59 | Drundia | or is that bot not here? |
| 06:36.09 | Iriel | You missed the closing / |
| 06:37.32 | Drundia | hidden frame doesn't seem to scroll |
| 06:38.40 | Drundia | when i was hiding it in hyjal, just like when i scrolled it up one line lag disappeared |
| 06:41.48 | Iriel | Whee. BackSeatQuester has a UI now.. |
| 06:42.00 | Iriel | At this rate it's almost a real AddOn |
| 06:43.31 | Amarande | I still can't believe whoever updated SCT for 2.4 failed to include the configuration menu :S |
| 06:43.42 | Amarande | I downloaded the 2.4 version |
| 06:43.53 | Amarande | I tried to use the appropriate /SCT command to configgle it |
| 06:44.03 | Amarande | and I proceed to see "CONFIGURATION MENU MISSING" or the equivalent |
| 06:47.02 | Guillotine | Iriel: what is it? |
| 06:52.35 | Tem | um |
| 06:52.37 | Tem | Guillotine, |
| 06:52.49 | Tem | does your roll addon actualy do anything to the rolls? |
| 06:53.01 | Iriel | It tracks quests and quest objective statuses of yourself and other people (if they're runnning the addon) |
| 06:53.05 | Tem | 96, 91, 93, 95 |
| 06:53.13 | Guillotine | seriously? |
| 06:53.16 | Tem | 99 |
| 06:53.25 | Tem | ah, there we go 37 |
| 06:53.30 | Guillotine | You are one lucky guy |
| 06:53.33 | Tem | I was thinking maybe you had it lie to me |
| 06:53.35 | Guillotine | and you just wasted all your high rolls for a year |
| 06:53.40 | Guillotine | nope |
| 06:53.49 | Tem | btw, that's evil to put into an addon |
| 06:53.59 | Tem | every time I get rolled, I have to watch the whole thing |
| 06:54.06 | Tem | btw, I just lost the game |
| 06:54.20 | Guillotine | err, the newer version doesn't play any of it after the first time rolling |
| 06:54.24 | Guillotine | so thats fixed |
| 06:54.28 | Tem | boo |
| 06:54.31 | Guillotine | I should update the bigger version to do that too |
| 06:54.41 | Guillotine | dammit, you just made me lose |
| 06:55.28 | Guillotine | But even with the big version you should be able to click the button on top to stop it after the first time |
| 06:55.39 | Tem | never gonna say goodbye! |
| 06:55.42 | Guillotine | hmm, unless your resolution is such that the movie covers up the button |
| 06:55.43 | Tem | *dance* |
| 06:55.49 | Guillotine | is the butotn not showing up for you? |
| 06:55.52 | Guillotine | button* |
| 06:55.56 | Tem | no, it totally is |
| 06:56.01 | Tem | I just listen to the whole thing |
| 06:56.17 | Guillotine | oh, by 'have to watch the whole thing', you don't mean programatically |
| 06:56.21 | Guillotine | you mean psychologically |
| 06:56.22 | Tem | no |
| 06:56.28 | Tem | I'm also just a little drunk |
| 06:56.30 | Tem | so that helps |
| 06:56.33 | Guillotine | ah |
| 06:56.37 | Guillotine | yup, that explains it |
| 06:56.42 | Guillotine | but you are one lucky roller |
| 06:56.45 | Tem | ooooooooh give you up |
| 06:56.52 | Guillotine | I had to spoof the rolls to get what I got for the screenshot |
| 06:56.59 | Tem | ah |
| 06:58.36 | Tem | Guillotine, http://images.gammatester.com/pics/671541473c387116e0f16e236ecc146b.jpg |
| 06:58.47 | Drundia | 4791 for the same 10000 scrollups... keeps going up |
| 06:59.06 | Guillotine | whoops, did I forget to remove the 'Rolling' debug text? |
| 06:59.19 | Tem | looks like you ddi |
| 06:59.32 | Drundia | i don't really know what could cause it besides addition of some more real combat log text |
| 07:01.28 | Drundia | 10000 randoms in log scrolls faster |
| 07:01.45 | Drundia | so it seems overhead of scrolling is bigger for real combat log messages |
| 07:02.31 | Drundia | now, how would i spam log with random combat-log-like messages? |
| 07:03.06 | Drundia | time to collect some real messages |
| 07:08.12 | Drundia | a relog, addition of 8 raid marks in their standard order one per message and we both add and scroll a total of 10000 lines in 2.5 sec |
| 07:08.47 | Drundia | now if i could understand myself what i meant |
| 07:08.57 | Iriel | Write it all down somewhere 8-) |
| 07:09.02 | Drundia | haha |
| 07:09.17 | Drundia | debugprofilestart(); for i=1,1250 do for j=1,8 do ChatFrame2:AddMessage("\124TInterface\\TargetingFrame\\UI-RaidTargetingIcon_"..j..".blp:0\124t"); end; end; print(debugprofilestop()) |
| 07:09.23 | Drundia | ~2.5s |
| 07:09.32 | Drundia | and then 10000 scrollups from bottom for about the same time |
| 07:10.11 | Drundia | hmmm |
| 07:10.11 | Drundia | i should try several randoms per message |
| 07:10.53 | Drundia | size matters! |
| 07:11.12 | Drundia | 3 randoms() per message scrolls up 10000 messages in 10.107s |
| 07:11.34 | Drundia | so real combat log messages should take more time than those randoms |
| 07:13.09 | Drundia | i have a theory that on this call (thinks) it somehow recaches what should be visible. (thinks again) time to increase size of chatframe2 |
| 07:13.54 | Drundia | 22.802 ms with maximum height |
| 07:14.00 | Drundia | s even |
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| 07:14.25 | Drundia | with 34 messages visible |
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| 07:20.44 | Saeris | Anyone know the combat log object flags needed to track a mind controlled unit that is the player's pet? AFFILIATION_MINE, REACTION_FRIENDLY, CONTROL_PLAYER, TYPE_PET doesn't work. Are they still classified as TYPE_PLAYER while mind controlled? |
| 07:21.52 | Iriel | Would it be friendly if MC'ed |
| 07:22.25 | Saeris | It would show that way from UnitReaction(), so I assume that's how the combat log would see it. |
| 07:22.33 | Iriel | Set up the situation then check the combat log 8-) |
| 07:23.06 | Saeris | Time to find some humanoids. |
| 07:24.00 | Drundia | are you sure that it's CONTROL_PLAYER? |
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| 07:36.59 | Cairenn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5640744751&postId=56402571854&sid=1#1 |
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| 07:40.04 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.4.x ToC: 20400 | WoW programming book http://tinyurl.com/2gdel9 | "certain things can only be done in response to user interaction" - zenzelezz |
| 07:42.50 | Saeris | turns out it IS TYPE_PET and CONTROL_PLAYER. I had thought COMBATLOG_FILTER_MINE matched pets, since AFFILIATION_MINE includes pets. different definitions of "MINE" |
| 07:43.38 | Cairenn | blizz forums just crash? |
| 07:49.55 | Iriel | Cairenn: working for me |
| 07:49.58 | Adys | [09:37:05] <@Cairenn> http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5640744751&postId=56402571854&sid=1#1 |
| 07:50.03 | Adys | Heh, this happens more than just often |
| 07:50.25 | Adys | Two days ago, i saw a job offer "You'll work for arguably the best designer enterprise in UK" |
| 07:50.32 | Adys | and they totally failed to mention which company it is |
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| 07:55.43 | batrick | oi shirik |
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| 10:05.39 | Cairenn | I feel so privileged that I was still here for that |
| 10:06.31 | Fisker- | aww man |
| 10:07.10 | Kirov | I wonder how long that would of gone for... |
| 10:07.52 | Kalroth | Why did you kickban him, maybe he was trying to ask a serious question! |
| 10:08.01 | Cairenn | yeah .... |
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| 10:08.53 | Breeze | Does anyone know if there's an API for the new friendlist notes? |
| 10:10.19 | Kirov | Kalroth - Perhaps he was testing his keyboard's resistance to liquids? |
| 10:10.30 | Kalroth | nasty |
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| 10:16.22 | art3mis | ahh there we go, desk tidied, cables tidied and 400gb drive installed |
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| 10:30.02 | foxlit | Oh fun |
| 10:30.08 | foxlit | |Tstuff|t can crash wow |
| 10:30.36 | Kirov | printing? |
| 10:31.08 | Cairenn | foxlit: you taking lessons from Tem? |
| 10:31.21 | foxlit | And apparently, "A character with this name already exists" errors are still possible :( |
| 10:31.26 | foxlit | Cairenn: elaborate :P |
| 10:32.01 | Cairenn | you don't remember the constant threads on the blizz forums? Tem: Slouken, I crashed WoW! |
| 10:32.03 | foxlit | |T:Interface\\Icons\\Spell_Nature_GiftoftheWild:16|t |
| 10:33.00 | Fisker- | o hai |
| 10:33.10 | Cairenn | hey Fisker- |
| 10:33.17 | foxlit | Ah, I see |
| 10:33.24 | foxlit | |T<path> not |T:<path> |
| 10:37.33 | lagger | is the 10th argument in combat_log_event_unfiltered the spellname for spell events? |
| 10:39.36 | foxlit | Buffer overflow :/ |
| 10:42.36 | foxlit | It's the following: |
| 10:43.11 | foxlit | "If the width argument of |T<path>:<width>|t is over 31 characters long, WoW simply exits. |
| 10:44.21 | foxlit | If someone could post that somewhere, things would be awesome :) |
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| 10:48.01 | Cairenn | PM me with a cohesive post and I'll toss it up on the forum for you :) |
| 10:49.26 | foxlit | I more or less have a sentence :) |
| 10:49.29 | Shirik|AFK | whee |
| 10:49.40 | Shirik | yay for being at school until 6 again |
| 10:50.50 | foxlit | Could attach some backstory, but it's not directly relevant :) |
| 10:50.59 | Cairenn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5640864836&sid=1 |
| 10:52.53 | foxlit | Thanks :) |
| 10:53.01 | Cairenn | welcome |
| 10:54.27 | Fisker- | fishing = boring |
| 11:01.29 | Cairenn | gotta love the subject line on spam emails ... "Gain valuable growth on your package" ... what, there's invaluable growth? |
| 11:02.54 | Cairenn | or would that be "non valuable"? |
| 11:03.04 | Nechckn | better question.. just what package would you be growing Cairenn? |
| 11:03.16 | Cairenn | well, I often wonder that one as well |
| 11:03.18 | Kirov | See, I never understood why I'd want to culture penicillin on my postage. |
| 11:03.23 | Nechckn | seems they need to make those more equal opportunity spammails! |
| 11:03.45 | Cairenn | I really loved one I saw the other day ... not |
| 11:03.52 | Cairenn | "bang her till she bleeds" |
| 11:03.57 | Nechckn | Oh my |
| 11:04.00 | Cairenn | oh, yeah, that's appealing! |
| 11:04.13 | Cairenn | definitely what I want as a female |
| 11:04.33 | Nechckn | um.... wow |
| 11:04.36 | Cairenn | like, hello? |
| 11:05.02 | Cairenn | guess what guys? we don't like that! |
| 11:05.39 | Nechckn | Sounds like you need to sign the sender up for a little bit o' DDoS =) |
| 11:06.00 | Cairenn | definitely |
| 11:06.38 | Nechckn | well, honestly, I think that would turn most guys off.... |
| 11:07.20 | Nechckn | not that some would admit it in a group or anything though |
| 11:08.01 | Nechckn | I mean, hey... if you want to ever see anything remotely like that ever again, you best ensure that your lady enjoys herself too |
| 11:08.23 | Cairenn | I really have to wonder about them some days though - I mean, sure, I realize it's just spam mail, but come on |
| 11:08.25 | Nechckn | hmm.. well, either way.. partner, etc |
| 11:08.42 | Nechckn | Yeah, I agree |
| 11:09.36 | Nechckn | Eh.. targeting the 14/5 year olds who have no idea about anything, I guess |
| 11:09.48 | Cairenn | hehehe |
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| 11:10.19 | Nechckn | Because anyone over that should have at least a general idea of exactly what you said |
| 11:10.26 | Nechckn | and if they don't... they should read it two or three times! |
| 11:10.39 | Nechckn | Ahhh.. the wonders of the Internet! |
| 11:10.55 | Nechckn | Anywhoo... have a good one, I'm off for a bit /wave |
| 11:11.01 | Cairenn | night night |
| 11:19.07 | Kirov | Is the time in combat_log_event server time or client? |
| 11:19.11 | Fisker- | on my package? |
| 11:19.17 | Fisker- | do want |
| 11:23.32 | nevcairiel | Kirov: client |
| 11:23.48 | Kirov | damn |
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| 11:47.19 | Wobin | huh |
| 11:47.24 | Wobin | my first MHyjal run |
| 11:47.31 | Wobin | <3 trash epics |
| 11:54.08 | Dezzimal | I took my alt into hyjal two days ago lol |
| 11:54.30 | Wobin | won http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32591 |
| 11:54.40 | Wobin | This is also my first run with this guild |
| 11:54.45 | Wobin | So on the one hand I feel guilty |
| 11:54.50 | Wobin | on the other, omg epix =P |
| 11:59.42 | Industrial | ~seen cogwheel |
| 11:59.44 | purl | cogwheel <n=chatzill@c-67-180-52-41.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 7d 8h 42m 41s ago, saying: 'sorry mp :P'. |
| 12:00.01 | Industrial | man I love his Macrosequences addon |
| 12:00.22 | Industrial | you can make macros that sequence and continue on failure (eg CD) |
| 12:00.28 | clad|office | very nice |
| 12:01.02 | Industrial | so instead of stopcasting you just put the net spell in another macro |
| 12:01.14 | Industrial | http://pastey.net/84718 |
| 12:01.43 | Industrial | you can do 2 earthshocks inside a stormstrike cooldown |
| 12:01.55 | Industrial | and they both benefit from the SS debuff |
| 12:02.09 | Industrial | so I can just mash this now to do dps, lol |
| 12:02.27 | nevcairiel | cant you use the trinkets in the same macro as the spell? |
| 12:02.37 | nevcairiel | saves you clicking |
| 12:03.47 | foxlit | http://www.spirit-dreams.net/ui/notepad/13/ |
| 12:03.56 | Industrial | nevcairiel: yes im doing that |
| 12:04.05 | foxlit | Wonder what else I need to kill so that the default party UI would stop appearing |
| 12:04.11 | Industrial | but apparently you still do need stopcasting after the trinkets |
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| 12:07.17 | Industrial | http://pastey.net/84720 |
| 12:07.33 | Industrial | Is there an addon that stops all the failing cast sounds and error messages? |
| 12:10.38 | Industrial | mm nice this works without fail except that I need to be in range for the stormstrike |
| 12:15.20 | Industrial | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/QuietCast/ |
| 12:15.28 | Industrial | I'm ging to rip out all those libs tho .. |
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| 12:22.10 | Funkeh` | Cairenn, haven't got round to saing it yet, but, I love the new site |
| 12:22.29 | Cairenn | awww, thanks Funkeh` :) |
| 12:22.47 | Cairenn | props to dolby-wowi mostly |
| 12:23.02 | Funkeh` | hehe |
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| 12:33.29 | dushkin | I wanted to ask, does anybody know about an icon selection palette similar to that in the macro interface that's already been coded and there are already icons there according to categories and such? I'd hate to go through all the several thousands of icons just to do something that's already been done. |
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| 12:37.09 | Saeris | What exactly is COMBATLOG_OBJECT_NONE for? Matching to a unitflag argument which represents the absence of any unit? |
| 12:38.02 | zenzelezz | yes |
| 12:38.16 | zenzelezz | non-targetted spells I think, things like poisons on weapons, etc |
| 12:38.54 | zenzelezz | (stressing the "I think") |
| 12:39.45 | Saeris | I also wonder why they included COMBATLOG_OBJECT_SPECIAL_MASK when those bits are non-exclusive. |
| 12:40.09 | zenzelezz | probably just because they have a mask for all the other parts also |
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| 12:52.03 | MrUseful | (Broadcast) The time has come, a new version of wowtools is being developed now, in order to improve it further. If you'd like to suggest something, please file a ticket at http://dev.firc.de/bugs/index.php?do=newtask&project=3 - Thank you! |
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| 13:23.23 | [Liquidor] | http://uk.news.yahoo.com/wenn/20080329/ten-mr-t-brought-boy-out-of-coma-c60bd6d.html |
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| 13:44.18 | SpiderBK | hi |
| 13:45.23 | Lopeppeppy | Morning. |
| 13:49.49 | SpiderBK | i have a question about tables, if i want a table structure like table={index={spellname={min,max,},},} and now i want to set the min for a specific spell and index, how do i do that? |
| 13:52.28 | Xinhuan | table.index.spellname.min = 1 |
| 13:53.11 | Xinhuan | lua> t={index={spellname={min=1,max=2,},},} print(t.index.spellname.max) |
| 13:53.11 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 2 |
| 13:56.37 | SpiderBK | ok, and when i have to set the index, spellname and the max/min? |
| 13:57.09 | SpiderBK | do i need to do this seperately or can it be done at once? |
| 13:57.22 | Xinhuan | spellname here is a literal string "spellname" |
| 13:57.26 | Xinhuan | it isn't "Rejuvenation" |
| 13:57.44 | Xinhuan | you might be thinking of t.index["Frostbolt"].min |
| 13:58.00 | Xinhuan | but you probably might need to readup on how tables work in Lua |
| 13:58.02 | Xinhuan | ~pil |
| 13:58.02 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 13:58.04 | Xinhuan | go read |
| 14:01.13 | SpiderBK | well i already read it but i dont get how this case works.. can i do t[index][spellname].max=value? |
| 14:03.03 | Legorol | yes you can |
| 14:03.34 | SpiderBK | but how do i assign the index and the spellname? |
| 14:04.45 | Legorol | lua> t = { [1] = { Frostbolt = { min=1, max=2 } } }; print(t[1]["Frostbolt"].min) |
| 14:04.45 | lua_bot | Legorol: 1 |
| 14:06.21 | Legorol | lua> t={[1]={Frostbolt={min=1,max=2},Fireball={min=3,max=4},[2]={["Earth Shock"]={min=5,max=6},["Flame Shock"]={min=7,max=8}}}; print(t[2]["Earth Shock"].min) |
| 14:06.21 | lua_bot | Legorol: luabot:1: '}' expected near '<eof>' |
| 14:06.24 | Legorol | oops |
| 14:06.37 | Legorol | lua> t={[1]={Frostbolt={min=1,max=2},Fireball={min=3,max=4}},[2]={["Earth Shock"]={min=5,max=6},["Flame Shock"]={min=7,max=8}}}; print(t[2]["Earth Shock"].min) |
| 14:06.37 | lua_bot | Legorol: 5 |
| 14:06.39 | Legorol | that's better |
| 14:07.03 | Legorol | the different syntax for Frostbolt and Earth Shock is due to the letter containing a space |
| 14:07.18 | Legorol | the way i wrote it, Frosbolt= is equivalent to ["Frostbolt"]= |
| 14:07.26 | SpiderBK | ok |
| 14:07.33 | Legorol | is this what you had in mind? |
| 14:07.55 | SpiderBK | one moment i have to take a closer look at it |
| 14:08.42 | Legorol | with indentation to make it clearer: |
| 14:08.45 | Legorol | t = { |
| 14:08.45 | Legorol | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:08.45 | Legorol | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:08.45 | Legorol | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:08.45 | Legorol | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:08.46 | Legorol | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:08.59 | Legorol | that's the current structure |
| 14:09.03 | Legorol | this may or may not be what you wanted |
| 14:09.14 | SpiderBK | yes thas what i want |
| 14:09.52 | Legorol | and you access entries as t[<index>]["<spellname>"].min, without the < and > |
| 14:10.14 | Legorol | or if the spellname has no space in it, t[<index>].<spellname>.min |
| 14:10.42 | Legorol | eg. t[1]["Frostbolt"].min is the same as t[1].Frostbold.min |
| 14:11.07 | Legorol | the difference is that the former syntax allows the use of variables, the latter doesn't |
| 14:11.51 | Legorol | lua> t={[1]={Frostbolt={min=1,max=2},Fireball={min=3,max=4}},[2]={["Earth Shock"]={min=5,max=6},["Flame Shock"]={min=7,max=8}}}; i=2; s="Earth Shock"; print(t[i][s].min) |
| 14:11.51 | lua_bot | Legorol: 5 |
| 14:12.43 | SpiderBK | so with [] i cant use variables? |
| 14:13.02 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 14:13.14 | Xinhuan | u can |
| 14:13.22 | Xinhuan | just use the variable containing the string |
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| 14:13.31 | Legorol | SpiderBK: see my last example |
| 14:13.35 | Legorol | i and s are variables |
| 14:13.49 | Legorol | i did i=2; s="Earth Shock", followed by print(t[i][s].min) |
| 14:14.05 | Legorol | which ends up doing print(t[2]["Earth Shock"].min) |
| 14:14.17 | Legorol | what you CAN'T do is t.i.s.min |
| 14:14.20 | Legorol | that doesn't do what you want |
| 14:14.56 | SpiderBK | ok i see |
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| 14:19.55 | SpiderBK | so can i do t={[i]={[s]={min,max}}}; i=index; s=spellname; min=value; max=value;? |
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| 14:28.11 | zenzelezz | "Study Shows Males Commonly Mistake Sexual Intent" -- this is news? |
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| 14:39.24 | Lopeppeppy | No, I read about that a week or so back, zenzelezz! *laugh* |
| 14:39.45 | zenzelezz | I would have thought it was common knowledge for decades |
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| 14:44.10 | Lopeppeppy | Well, yeah... but now it's totally official, since someone wasted the time to scientifically study it! |
| 14:44.21 | Lopeppeppy | Don't you feel better now that it's official? |
| 14:45.42 | zenzelezz | not really, I prefer when the inferiority of males is kept secret, even when it's common knowledge |
| 14:46.43 | Lopeppeppy | It's you saying that's inferior, not me! |
| 14:47.23 | zenzelezz | it's no secret, I find males to be utterly imperfect. Females might not be perfect either, but they're way better than us |
| 14:47.39 | Lopeppeppy | Aww. *hug* |
| 14:50.43 | Seerah | :) |
| 14:50.59 | Lopeppeppy | You just haven't met me to get a good readout on imperfection! |
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| 15:02.31 | zenzelezz | women can be imperfect all right, but they're still greater than men |
| 15:03.24 | Lopeppeppy | I'm a women, and I disagree... but that could just mean that we're both comfortable with our heterosexual tendencies to idolize the opposite gender. |
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| 15:09.29 | sag_ich_nicht | ACTION_SPELL_AURA_DISPELLED = "dispeled"; |
| 15:09.29 | sag_ich_nicht | ACTION_SPELL_AURA_DISPELLED_BUFF = "dispeled"; |
| 15:09.31 | sag_ich_nicht | typos! |
| 15:09.33 | sag_ich_nicht | someone report them! |
| 15:10.00 | Lopeppeppy | ../report ! |
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| 15:11.16 | sag_ich_nicht | ugh |
| 15:11.28 | sag_ich_nicht | blizzard is consistently spelling with 1 l... that seems so wrong :( |
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| 15:29.13 | sag_ich_nicht | how do i escape -- |
| 15:29.23 | Cide | press the key left to F1 |
| 15:29.23 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 15:29.26 | sag_ich_nicht | \-- should helf :P |
| 15:29.28 | sag_ich_nicht | no. |
| 15:29.30 | sag_ich_nicht | -.- |
| 15:29.36 | sag_ich_nicht | *should work |
| 15:31.21 | zenzelezz | "escape --"? |
| 15:31.43 | foxlit | Could someone run http://foxlit.pastey.net/84729 on enUS live and see if it crashes? |
| 15:33.13 | Industrial | \-\- ? |
| 15:35.23 | sag_ich_nicht | ugh |
| 15:35.24 | sag_ich_nicht | asodasldjasd |
| 15:37.25 | sag_ich_nicht | ACTION_SPELL_AURA_DISPELLED_DEBUFF = "\-\-"; |
| 15:37.26 | sag_ich_nicht | that |
| 15:37.29 | sag_ich_nicht | how to escape it properly |
| 15:40.19 | sag_ich_nicht | halp |
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| 16:05.06 | sag_ich_nicht | first version of my SCL replacement: http://pastey.net/84733 |
| 16:05.44 | lonk_afk | i want to play with the new settings panels - anyone have a link for basic theory of operation? |
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| 16:06.52 | sag_ich_nicht | that version is still lacking order changing |
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| 16:23.15 | Gnarfoz | sag_ich_nicht: how about ~pil ... lua escape char is % |
| 16:23.29 | SpiderBK | is it possible to check if a spell can be casted on a specific unit like player? |
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| 16:27.45 | seebs | ~seen ckknight |
| 16:27.48 | purl | ckknight is currently on #wowi-lounge (12h 19m 6s) #norganna (12h 19m 6s) #wowace (12h 19m 6s) #curseforge (12h 19m 6s). Has said a total of 32 messages. Is idling for 1m 42s, last said: 'Zhinjio: yea, which technically isn't part of AceComm (even though in the same file)'. |
| 16:27.58 | ckknight | waves at seebs |
| 16:28.01 | ckknight | ping me first, guy |
| 16:28.02 | seebs | Woot! |
| 16:28.23 | seebs | Do you have a couple of minutes to help me debug something which has tormented me for months, involving FuBar? |
| 16:28.37 | ckknight | um... |
| 16:28.39 | ckknight | what is it? |
| 16:28.43 | ckknight | and will I care? |
| 16:29.11 | seebs | Several FuBar plugins, such as ClockFu, seem to be unusable on a machine with a case-sensitive filesystem. They throw lua errors during load instead of running. |
| 16:29.23 | seebs | So, say, Linux users under WINE. |
| 16:29.38 | seebs | I don't understand the code well enough to submit a useable bug report, though. |
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| 16:30.00 | Industrial | so paste the errors :D? |
| 16:30.17 | Industrial | or move your head 45 degrees to see what time it is |
| 16:30.18 | Industrial | :P |
| 16:30.18 | ckknight | ick |
| 16:30.22 | Industrial | *badoom tisch* |
| 16:30.22 | ckknight | what error do you get? |
| 16:31.27 | Fritz | Heey, can someone help me tweak this addon here? I want to change a line of code of Afflicted that announces interrupts. Basically I like its new feature of putting icons next to the interrupt message, but I don't like all the extra stuff its listing - I don't need to know unit name, what they were casting, etc etc, I just want 'Interrupt' and the icon. |
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| 16:31.45 | seebs | Heh. The error, which I haven't got in front of me right now, is something about being unable to use type TabletLib-2.0 because that's not loaded. But obviously the embedded file is there. If I use the exact same interface/addons directory on my Mac, it works fine. The most common problem I've seen in the past involves file name case. |
| 16:31.48 | Fritz | self:SendMessage(string.format(L["Interrupted %s's %s (%s)"], destName, extraSpellName, spellSchools[extraSpellSchool] or ""), self.db.profile.interruptDest, self.db.profile.interruptColor, extraSpellID) |
| 16:32.06 | Fritz | Last time I removed the %s's I got a bunch of errors. |
| 16:32.22 | Kaso | what are you trying to do exactly? |
| 16:32.24 | Fritz | And I don't see where the icon is supposed to come in unless the 'L' is the icon |
| 16:32.31 | Fritz | Erm.. I just described what I wanted to do, Kaso. |
| 16:32.56 | Kaso | I dont use afflicted so could you describe how it ouputs that info now, and how you would prefer it to output |
| 16:33.16 | Fritz | Instead of this long message appearing on the middle of my screen saying [SpellIcon]Interrupted SoandSo's Arcane Blast (Arcane) |
| 16:33.18 | Fritz | I just want it to go |
| 16:33.26 | Fritz | [SpellIcon]Interrupt |
| 16:33.35 | Fritz | Or |
| 16:33.40 | Fritz | [SpellIcon]SpellSchool |
| 16:33.45 | seebs | I'll see if I can get it reproducing nicely again, then bug you with more details. |
| 16:33.48 | Fritz | Probably the latter. |
| 16:34.12 | Fritz | I'm not sure what destName is supposed to be. |
| 16:34.18 | Fritz | Is that the icon I'm wondering? |
| 16:34.24 | Fritz | It doesn't sound like it. |
| 16:34.33 | Kaso | the icon is no doubt a different section |
| 16:34.38 | Fritz | No.. that would have to be the caster.. |
| 16:34.40 | Fritz | Alright |
| 16:34.43 | Kaso | this line of code deals only with the text that is outputted |
| 16:34.50 | Kaso | self:SendMessage(spellSchools[extraSpellSchool]), self.db.profile.interruptDest, self.db.profile.interruptColor, extraSpellID) |
| 16:34.59 | Kaso | That would hae the Spell School as the only text |
| 16:35.10 | Fritz | Alright let me try |
| 16:35.52 | Fritz | unexpected symbol near ',' |
| 16:36.15 | Kaso | delete the ) after ] |
| 16:36.27 | Kaso | that was a mistake |
| 16:36.35 | Fritz | k |
| 16:36.48 | Fritz | No error this time, hopefully I can find a caster in Durotar |
| 16:37.25 | zenzelezz | razormanes have casters |
| 16:37.39 | Kaso | in the caszum thing south west of org theres a goblin who is a warlock |
| 16:37.42 | Fritz | Hmm. |
| 16:37.44 | Kaso | he and his imp cast stuff |
| 16:37.51 | Fritz | I'll just run into RFC yeah |
| 16:38.15 | zenzelezz | the orcs in the cave east of Orgrimmar also have casters |
| 16:38.58 | seebs | Oh, WTF. It doesn't fail if I just have those two addons. Now I'm worried. |
| 16:39.28 | Fritz | Alright that works great. |
| 16:39.33 | Fritz | Thanks Kaso. |
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| 16:41.29 | seebs | Well, neat. It looks as though this may be a bug in some other addon breaking tablet-2.0; if I just have fubar and clockfu, it's fine, but if I add a bunch of other mods, it stops working. |
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| 16:42.18 | Kaso | Well really its a bug in tablet if an addon mis-using it can break the lib for everyone, you'd hope they'd be more resilient than that |
| 16:43.19 | seebs | Well, at least now I know why I was totally unable to find a problem in ClockFu. |
| 16:43.30 | seebs | I spent an hour once trying to find anything wrong with the path names and such. |
| 16:45.25 | seebs | Yay for binary search. It's not any of the other fubar plugins. |
| 16:46.49 | seebs | !@#$!@$# flagRSP2 |
| 16:47.21 | seebs | Looks like it embeds an old version of Tablet. |
| 16:52.56 | seebs | So, never mind, ckk, not your fault. As I sort of suspected. :) |
| 16:53.17 | Industrial | rawr! http://images.gammatester.com/pics/b45a9e6b91e7bf2a863c43a335d01a65.jpg |
| 16:53.42 | Lopeppeppy | Er... rawr. |
| 16:53.57 | zenzelezz | grumbles at World server is down. |
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| 17:08.01 | sag_ich_nicht | [18:23] <Gnarfoz> sag_ich_nicht: how about ~pil ... lua escape char is % <--works already :P |
| 17:08.10 | sag_ich_nicht | also fuck pil :P |
| 17:08.11 | Gnarfoz | still, ~pil |
| 17:08.19 | sag_ich_nicht | learning by doing! |
| 17:08.27 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't have the time for the book |
| 17:09.20 | seebs | Huh. I'm having some serious weirdness with a freshly-updated set of FuBar addons. Only a couple of them show up in the list. |
| 17:10.32 | SpiderBK | is it possible to check if a spell can target a specific unit like player? |
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| 17:20.00 | seebs | I don't know of a way to, but there may be one. |
| 17:20.19 | seebs | Hmm. Well, this is cool. ALL of my fubar plugins are now hosed, possibly because some addon somewhere has broken LibRock. *whee* |
| 17:20.47 | seebs | I am really starting to hate embedding in addons. A lot. I think I liked it better when all the support code was just separate addons. Harder to set up for a novice, but MUCH easier to debug. |
| 17:21.02 | sag_ich_nicht | uhm |
| 17:21.05 | sag_ich_nicht | are you stupid? |
| 17:21.07 | sag_ich_nicht | just use no-ext |
| 17:21.24 | Tem | seebs, and _that_ is why I refuse to use ck addons |
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| 17:21.32 | seebs | I'm not stupid, but I might be ignorant. What's a "no-ext"? |
| 17:21.38 | Tem | (among other things) |
| 17:21.58 | Fumler | anyone know of an addon that gives me a list of targets, and I can click them? (like perfecttargets, but working) |
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| 17:23.14 | seebs | In any event, it looks like this may be too hard to debug on that machine. I suppose it's time to update WoW on this one and compare notes. |
| 17:24.45 | seebs | I suppose I could just replace fubar with Some Other Bar Addon. It's not as though I need most of the features these days anyway, but I sorta like the appearance. |
| 17:42.30 | Duman | hmm |
| 17:42.43 | Duman | I got that "massive XP" bug last night... |
| 17:42.50 | Duman | I think the combat log is getting hozed |
| 17:42.54 | Duman | and I'm seeing my GUID as my XP |
| 17:43.10 | Duman | http://i30.tinypic.com/2141aoy.jpg |
| 17:43.12 | dylanm | seebs: no-ext is short for no-externals. |
| 17:43.30 | Duman | notice how my "group bonus" is how much XP I should have received... |
| 17:43.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Duman: wtb that bug |
| 17:43.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Only make it more than just the combat log, that is |
| 17:44.28 | dylanm | seebs: Or no-embeds, which is the word you seem to prefer. |
| 17:45.12 | Duman | hehe |
| 17:45.28 | Duman | yeah I saw this huge number flash across my screen and was like "WTF!!!!!" |
| 17:45.45 | ScytheBlade1 | I wonder how feasible it would be to modify Blizzard_CombatLog.lua (saved vars) to make an option that only displays party/raid/self, ie, not externals |
| 17:46.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Seeing as that is not possible with the stock UI... |
| 17:49.08 | Gngsk | ScytheBlade1, you can just make an addon that uses ChatFrame_AddMessageGroup(frame, group) and ChatFrame_RemoveMessageGroup(frame, group) |
| 17:49.31 | Drundia | not any more really |
| 17:49.42 | Drundia | but i think modifying saved vars is way to go |
| 17:49.49 | Gngsk | Drundia, why not? |
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| 17:50.19 | Drundia | because combat log was changed in 2.4 |
| 17:57.23 | seebs | Dylanm, thanks, but I don't follow. How would I go about implementing that? Are there alternative versions of the downloads without the embedded addons? |
| 17:57.57 | dylanm | That's what no-ext is. |
| 17:58.02 | dylanm | What are you doing exactly? |
| 17:59.33 | seebs | I'm running WoW on two machines, a Mac and a Linux box. On the Linux box, I frequently have problems with Ace-derived mods, especially FuBar plugins, which APPEAR to be caused by the case-sensitive filesystem. |
| 18:00.05 | seebs | So, some mod will embed AceHook-2.0, and specify acehook-2.1 in its toc or embeds.xml, and as a result, AceHook gets misloaded or flagged as unloadable, and everything else using it goes poof. |
| 18:00.30 | seebs | (er, ignore the 2.0/2.1, that's a typo) |
| 18:00.31 | Shirik | go yell at the author |
| 18:01.05 | seebs | The thing is, it's very hard to tell WHICH mod did this, because the mod which did it frequently generates no complaints. Also, a single mod (say, flagRSP) embedding an old version of something can break it for all the others. |
| 18:01.16 | seebs | So if there's an easy way to grab addons without the embedded libs, I'd love to do it. |
| 18:01.24 | ScytheBlade1 | What Shirik said, go yell at the author |
| 18:01.55 | dylanm | What are you using to grab addons |
| 18:01.58 | seebs | ftp |
| 18:02.02 | Shirik | seebs: You could always avoid addons that require libraries in the first place, anyway |
| 18:02.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Or double-check the ones that don't work, join #wowace, and say "hey you case-insensitive people! Please to fix!" |
| 18:02.04 | seebs | or wget, I forget. |
| 18:02.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: lol, points for effort |
| 18:02.18 | dylanm | From files.wowace? |
| 18:02.22 | seebs | wget "http://files.wowace.com/$i/$i.zip" |
| 18:02.36 | seebs | <-- spot the Unix user |
| 18:02.40 | dylanm | Spotted. |
| 18:03.03 | dylanm | http://files.wowace.com/AlarLib/no-ext/AlarLib.zip |
| 18:03.05 | dylanm | For example. |
| 18:03.10 | seebs | Oooh. |
| 18:03.13 | dylanm | Now, that means you'll have to handle the dependencies yourself. |
| 18:03.43 | seebs | Well, yeah. So I just need to add a list of lib addons (e.g., AceHook) to my list of ace mods, yes? |
| 18:03.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes, in theory |
| 18:04.12 | seebs | Anyway, I sorta wanna debug this and fix it properly, but the nature of the beast is that I have maybe 20 ace mods, and at least one is broken, but I don't have an easy way to tell which one. |
| 18:04.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup. It's a pain. |
| 18:04.39 | seebs | Well, thank you muchly; I didn't know about that, and now that I know, it's probably easier for me to just grab the no-ext mods and play. |
| 18:04.58 | Shirik | does anyone else find this function header a bit.... odd? |
| 18:05.04 | Shirik | (note: I did not write the code) |
| 18:05.07 | Shirik | private: static StringDictionary __gc* ParseAssName(String __gc* fullAssName) |
| 18:05.24 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 18:05.43 | dylanm | I always try to avoid that. |
| 18:05.56 | Shirik | hahahaha! |
| 18:05.58 | Shirik | fullAssName->Split(__gc new Char __gc*[1] |
| 18:06.07 | seebs | Do I need to specify the sub-versions of the dependencies? Should I be grabbing AceAddon/AceAddon.zip, or AceAddon-3.0/AceAddon-3.0.zip, or what? |
| 18:06.08 | Shirik | sorry, Im amused by stupid things |
| 18:06.09 | dylanm | Sounds painful. |
| 18:07.21 | seebs | I think you've just found the code version of goatse.cx. |
| 18:07.41 | Shirik | no actually, this is amusingly a tool someones trying to upload to wowi >< |
| 18:08.51 | Industrial | ew lol dung in ur bush >_> http://images.gammatester.com/pics/a26e1efc269a85bc9d89155753078ff0.jpg |
| 18:09.18 | Duman | Shirik heh |
| 18:09.24 | ScytheBlade1 | nevcairiel: ping |
| 18:09.38 | nevcairiel | pong |
| 18:09.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Ack. Actually, I'm pretty sure I just pinged the wrong person. |
| 18:10.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Haha, check that out. |
| 18:10.19 | ScytheBlade1 | How exactly I got you and sylvanaar mixed up, I'll never know. |
| 18:10.30 | Industrial | i always mix them up |
| 18:10.31 | Industrial | dunno why |
| 18:10.36 | nevcairiel | I take that as a insult |
| 18:10.40 | ScytheBlade1 | sorry :( |
| 18:10.41 | Duman | haha |
| 18:10.46 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 18:10.52 | ScytheBlade1 | sylvanaar: ping |
| 18:11.05 | sylvanaar | ScytheBlade1 yes |
| 18:11.06 | *** kick/#wowi-lounge [ScytheBlade1!n=progdog@ip68-109-67-190.oc.oc.cox.net] by widgertick (Kick!) |
| 18:11.09 | widgertick | JEEZE |
| 18:11.10 | widgertick | Jerk |
| 18:11.13 | *** join/#wowi-lounge ScytheBlade1 (n=Death@about/pxe/ScytheBlade1) |
| 18:11.14 | ScytheBlade1 | :( |
| 18:11.15 | Duman | :-o |
| 18:11.19 | widgertick | Way to insult people |
| 18:11.22 | widgertick | Learn to play nice |
| 18:11.28 | widgertick | OR ELSE |
| 18:11.37 | widgertick | THIS COULD HAPPEN TO YOU |
| 18:11.40 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 18:11.43 | *** kick/#wowi-lounge [widgertick!n=progdog@ip68-109-67-190.oc.oc.cox.net] by widgertick (Kick!) |
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| 18:11.58 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [-o widgertick] by Shirik |
| 18:12.02 | ScytheBlade1 | sylvanaar: guy on my guild forums is calling the author of the ace updater a "dick." I'm pretty much going to paste this verbatim into my guild forums... YOU ARE A MAD KEYLOGGER, CONFIRM/DENY? |
| 18:12.12 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o widgertick] by ChanServ |
| 18:12.28 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 18:12.29 | Shirik | >.> <.< |
| 18:12.32 | ScytheBlade1 | (Looking for "deny" here) |
| 18:12.50 | ScytheBlade1 | (I just read up on the "drama" and kinda laughed. So I want to paste this) |
| 18:12.53 | sylvanaar | is still laughing |
| 18:13.20 | ScytheBlade1 | doesn't blame you |
| 18:13.57 | widgertick | Shirik: I treat kicking like a slap bet |
| 18:14.17 | ScytheBlade1 | widgertick: I treat it like a badge of pride. "I was kicked by widgertick. Rock." |
| 18:14.22 | widgertick | I'm going to kick you eventually |
| 18:14.27 | widgertick | You'll just never know when |
| 18:14.50 | sylvanaar | ScytheBlade1 the source was reopened, so i dont think anyone can really complain anymore |
| 18:15.06 | ScytheBlade1 | sylvanaar: oh. |
| 18:15.15 | ScytheBlade1 | turns a bright shade of red |
| 18:15.49 | nevcairiel | its like all open source software |
| 18:15.54 | nevcairiel | it logs keys by defintion |
| 18:15.57 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 18:15.58 | nevcairiel | and eats babys if you want |
| 18:16.22 | ScytheBlade1 | One last question (and thanks btw), semi-unrelated |
| 18:16.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Another guy here says that he has "about 20 seconds to update addons before it crashes each time" |
| 18:16.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Known problem? There a workaround? Or should I just tell him to fix his crap? |
| 18:18.14 | Shirik | nevcairiel: My updater does too, obviously |
| 18:18.27 | Shirik | Its GPL, the keyloggiest version of open-source keyloggers |
| 18:18.33 | seebs | Hmm. ClockFu's still not being able to find Tablet-2.0, although I do have a TabletLib loaded. Hmm. |
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| 18:19.11 | sylvanaar | ScytheBlade1 um, well depends on the version |
| 18:19.11 | Shirik | ok guys I have to ask for opinions |
| 18:19.15 | Shirik | agree or disagree? |
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| 18:19.25 | Shirik | (14:17:17) (+Shirik) Cairenn|afk: It looks ok |
| 18:19.25 | Shirik | (14:17:22) (+Shirik) however, it was written in Visual Basic |
| 18:19.25 | Shirik | (14:17:26) (+Shirik) for that reason alone I vote for deny |
| 18:19.35 | ScytheBlade1 | sylvanaar: I'll tell him to update and then get back to you if it's a problem, I have no clue what version he is using |
| 18:20.02 | ScytheBlade1 | And I thought that WoWI instituited a 'no exe' policy? |
| 18:20.06 | sylvanaar | ScytheBlade1 have you read the forum pasteys and such |
| 18:20.09 | Shirik | for addons only |
| 18:20.17 | ScytheBlade1 | sylvanaar: no but I probably should. :) |
| 18:20.17 | Shirik | tools are allowed |
| 18:20.30 | Shirik | after a rigorous test :P |
| 18:20.36 | sylvanaar | ScytheBlade1 i think you should have a look |
| 18:20.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Will do |
| 18:20.54 | sylvanaar | er i ment stickies... |
| 18:21.03 | ScytheBlade1 | That's what I read it as :) |
| 18:21.06 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 18:21.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Not to worry, I speak typo AND 'generic IRC'~ |
| 18:21.27 | ScytheBlade1 | *! |
| 18:21.30 | Shirik | besides ScytheBlade1 |
| 18:21.37 | Shirik | if that were true, your tool couldnt be posted :) |
| 18:21.47 | ScytheBlade1 | I've posted exes to WoWI? |
| 18:21.50 | ScytheBlade1 | News to me |
| 18:21.58 | Shirik | well java classes are, for all intents and purposes, executable code |
| 18:22.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Might want to look into that |
| 18:22.08 | Shirik | wait |
| 18:22.10 | Shirik | Im an idiot >< |
| 18:22.16 | ScytheBlade1 | I've never uploaded anything like that :) |
| 18:22.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes you are :) |
| 18:22.19 | Shirik | I demand you change your name to something that doesnt start with an S |
| 18:22.23 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 18:22.26 | Shirik | I confused you with Shadowed |
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| 18:22.33 | ScytheBlade1 | I demand the same out of you, Shirik! |
| 18:22.49 | Shirik | no, only people whom have uploaded executable code to WoWI are allowed to have a name starting with S here |
| 18:22.59 | Shirik | I fit that category :P |
| 18:23.04 | ScytheBlade1 | perks up |
| 18:23.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmmm... |
| 18:23.23 | Shirik | waits for someone to argue that Lua is eventually executable |
| 18:23.39 | ScytheBlade1 | That's a good four interations of conversation away still |
| 18:24.19 | ScytheBlade1 | sylvanaar: anywho, that answers that. Thanks again. |
| 18:24.48 | sylvanaar | ScytheBlade1 np |
| 18:27.35 | ScytheBlade1 | considers laughing at the now-departed widgertick |
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| 18:32.59 | widgertick | join #wow-2.0 eggs |
| 18:33.01 | widgertick | asdlfk |
| 18:33.02 | widgertick | al;gjalesdgjsda |
| 18:33.10 | widgertick | Epic fail |
| 18:33.59 | Shirik | gotta admit that is pretty epic fail right there |
| 18:34.32 | Shirik | p.s welcome back :D |
| 18:34.45 | Kaso | eggs? |
| 18:34.51 | Kaso | i do like eggs |
| 18:34.58 | zenzelezz | why do people never learn that you don't do /joins or logins from a channel window? |
| 18:35.12 | Shirik | zenzelezz: Ive done it before, because when you type all your /joins very fast |
| 18:35.21 | Shirik | the channel pops up after you type the first one while youre typing the second |
| 18:35.38 | Shirik | and then the / goes in one box, the rest goes somewhere else |
| 18:35.50 | widgertick | What Shirik said =P |
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| 18:36.10 | Shirik | course, widgertick uses a crappy client |
| 18:36.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow. I just read up. |
| 18:36.27 | widgertick | It has less popups than mIRC |
| 18:36.30 | ScytheBlade1 | widgertick is a professional. |
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| 18:36.41 | Shirik | I use hyperterminal for my IRC |
| 18:36.49 | zenzelezz | Shirik: that's no excuse |
| 18:36.51 | ScytheBlade1 | With that said, when I'm on windows, I do like HydraIRC |
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| 19:09.27 | seebs | Thanks for all the advice, folks. Switching to the non-embedded libs has Fixed All My Problems. |
| 19:09.44 | seebs | Like, even the ones that I didn't think involved the ace stuff at all. |
| 19:09.47 | Iriel | Hm, whose embedded libs are t3h loss? |
| 19:10.02 | Iriel | And, if anyone knows, why.? |
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| 19:18.56 | seebs | I don't know for sure. |
| 19:19.12 | Industrial | ding 66 |
| 19:19.27 | seebs | Given that it All Works On Mac, my guess is that at least some of the programs embedding the libraries are misspelling their names in a way that case-insensitive systems don't notice. |
| 19:19.49 | seebs | The other possibility is that the screwups are caused by a change in sorting of mixed-case names; for instance, flagRSP2 being earlier on Linux and later on the Mac or something. |
| 19:20.07 | seebs | I still don't have LibRock found, but everything seems to be running anyway, so I don't care. |
| 19:20.49 | Industrial | alphabetic sorting shoudlnt have anything to do withloading |
| 19:21.03 | Industrial | if something needs the other it states that explicitly making the other load first. |
| 19:21.37 | Industrial | given it was done right :p |
| 19:27.34 | seebs | Well, yes, but imagine the case where you have fifteen embedded copies of LibFoo, and one of them's got a typo in a config file that breaks it on a case-sensitive system -- and it gets loaded first on one system but not on the other, or something like that. |
| 19:27.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel: because some authors were using case-insensitive filenames on a case-sensitive file system, causing his addons to puke themselves. |
| 19:27.46 | ScytheBlade1 | ... oh you just explained that |
| 19:27.49 | ScytheBlade1 | wanders away |
| 19:27.52 | seebs | Anyway, I have it working now, and I have updated my List of Downloads so I won't have to deal anymore. |
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| 19:28.39 | seebs | I had one addon where the zip was corrupt so that it created a directory named "libs\AceHook-2.1", not a directory named libs creating a directory named AceHook-2.1. |
| 19:28.40 | Iriel | Thanks for the explanations, I just wanted to make sure someone hadn't found a huge flaw in the embedded library design (poor development is not a 'flaw' per se, in that it can't be avoided) |
| 19:28.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Nah just author stupidity :) |
| 19:30.15 | seebs | I don't think it's an underlying flaw. |
| 19:30.35 | seebs | I'm not a big fan of embedded libs because of the debugging nightmare -- how do I tell which of a dozen copies of TabletLib is the one that's busted? |
| 19:30.43 | seebs | But they basically work. |
| 19:31.23 | Iriel | seebs - you just set each instance to have a different major version |
| 19:31.31 | Iriel | seebs - but that is admittedly 'more work' |
| 19:31.37 | seebs | And now I might... Just might... Actually get to *PLAY* WoW for the first time in a month or two. |
| 19:35.31 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 19:35.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Enjoy |
| 19:37.04 | seebs | I would play more, but I'd need free time, which would mean less work, which would mean less money, and until I sell the old house, I really do need the extra budget. |
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| 19:40.52 | Nechckn | seebs I think we all know that last issue you mention =) |
| 19:40.54 | seebs | Oh, wait. No, I get to spend the day configuring the new Bongos. Whee. :) |
| 19:41.08 | seebs | I would probably be okay but I'm paying mortgages on two houses until the old one sells. |
| 19:41.16 | seebs | So a little caution goes a long way. |
| 19:41.25 | Nechckn | ah... damn, that is indeed worse |
| 19:42.56 | seebs | At least I got enough free time to update the mod that actually needed an update, and I might get to play if I can figure out what I need to do for bongos. |
| 19:43.51 | Nechckn | I am actually hoping that... um.. I forget their name right off hand feels pity and makes it so 3 will port 2's settings |
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| 19:44.25 | Nechckn | cause- I love some bongos! but man, it is daunting to even consider redoing all of my bars for all of my characters |
| 19:44.47 | Nechckn | but, if not, I'll bite the bullet at some point |
| 19:49.15 | foxlit | XH_GuidRemap = setmetatable({}, {__index=function(t,k) t[k] = XH_GuidFamilyRemap[XH_GetGUIDFamily(k)] or k; return t[k]; end}); |
| 19:49.48 | foxlit | Horrible storage issue? Designate keys/values as weak? |
| 19:50.10 | foxlit | (basically, handling targets with shared HP pools by remapping their GUIDs to a single value) |
| 19:52.26 | Nechckn | foxlit, if I may.. targets with shared HP pools? |
| 19:52.32 | foxlit | Council |
| 19:52.39 | Nechckn | Ahhhhhh okey dokey |
| 19:53.01 | Nechckn | thank you- I was scratching my wee brain trying to think what would have such a setup |
| 19:54.42 | seebs | Well, I was thinking that, but I think I'm just gonna redo everything else too. I was about due for a UI overhaul. |
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| 19:57.43 | kd3 | har... three different people sent me tells today asking what's up with the @kd3 threads on the PTR forum |
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| 20:02.22 | Sixen | Lawl |
| 20:03.19 | Sixen | There's even more @KD3's... /clap |
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| 20:33.01 | Drundia | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=712475116&sid=1 IMO GameTooltip:SetHyperlink("\124Hspell:$id\124h\124h") ftw |
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| 20:36.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Drundia: lol |
| 20:37.14 | Drundia | apparently it's way to access static spell ids in some way |
| 20:37.19 | Drundia | internal ones |
| 20:39.31 | zenzelezz | the combat log (text file) seemed to show the same IDs as the database sites us |
| 20:39.33 | zenzelezz | *use |
| 20:41.25 | Drundia | it seems internal ids of spells are like fully exposed now |
| 20:41.34 | Drundia | except for spellbook |
| 20:42.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Er? Except for spellbook? |
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| 20:42.59 | Drundia | how would i best say it.... |
| 20:43.01 | Drundia | hmmm |
| 20:43.04 | Drundia | most spell api |
| 20:43.18 | Drundia | it's still on weird ids |
| 20:44.10 | Drundia | first general then class tabs in alphabetical order and on each tab spells are still ordered alphabetically |
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| 20:59.32 | Tem | what's wrong with it being in alphabetical order? |
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| 21:00.09 | p3lim | anyone know an addon that uses the binding interface? |
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| 21:00.51 | Iriel | What do you mean? Creates bindings? Or extends the interface? |
| 21:01.14 | kd3 | scrolls down his keybindings window |
| 21:01.47 | kd3 | simpleMinimap, Cartographer, CT_Core, ItemRack, CT_BuffMod, Cryolysis, Atlas, DevTools, DBM... |
| 21:02.46 | p3lim | ive never worked with bindings |
| 21:02.50 | p3lim | just want an example mod |
| 21:02.55 | p3lim | that does that |
| 21:02.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Sanity, Prat, Omen, oRA2, SpellBinder |
| 21:03.07 | ScytheBlade1 | p3lim: look in any of the above mentioned mods |
| 21:03.13 | ScytheBlade1 | File named "Bindings.xml" |
| 21:03.24 | p3lim | thanks |
| 21:03.26 | zenzelezz | the wiki also has info on this |
| 21:03.50 | Iriel | Then globals starting with BINDING_HEADER_ and BINDING_NAME_ |
| 21:04.14 | mikma | http://www.flickr.com/photos/tunnelbug/sets/72157603558879859/show/ <- have fun recognizing the place :D |
| 21:05.07 | mikma | (and to spoil, it's written there like several times, starting from the first picture) |
| 21:08.31 | p3lim | SetBindingSpell("F10", "Pick Lock") was what i wanted :p |
| 21:09.33 | Kirov | Direct binding functions, evil but effective |
| 21:11.58 | p3lim | i dont mind it, its "the key" now |
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| 21:17.57 | AbsoRayne | hrm |
| 21:18.37 | AbsoRayne | afternoon all |
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| 21:20.02 | AbsoRayne | Anyone interesting in testing a mod in the next few days? |
| 21:20.36 | AbsoRayne | Primarily aimed at raiding crowd control and multiple target tracking use. |
| 21:24.27 | p3lim | anyone got an mod that does this? make a blizzard-style button (im looking for examples) |
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| 21:46.04 | Kirov | p3lim - explain |
| 21:46.14 | p3lim | i got it |
| 21:46.33 | p3lim | local button = CreateFrame("Button", nil, UIParent, "UIPanelButtonTemplate") |
| 21:47.01 | p3lim | inheritframe |
| 21:52.02 | p3lim | stupid secured api's |
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| 22:07.12 | batrick | oi shirik |
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| 22:10.11 | sag_ich_nicht | localisation bug |
| 22:10.20 | sag_ich_nicht | {star} {stern} etc. |
| 22:10.31 | sag_ich_nicht | are all not inter-localisation compatible |
| 22:10.50 | sag_ich_nicht | so if i write {star} people with the enGB client see the icon, but people with the deDE only see {star} |
| 22:11.03 | sag_ich_nicht | kd3 care to report this please? :) |
| 22:11.08 | Drundia | how can you taint "/target" without tainting "/tar"? |
| 22:14.57 | kd3 | sag_ich_nicht, http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5640645213&postId=56401477293&sid=1#0 |
| 22:16.05 | kd3 | sag_ich_nicht, as a workaround, have you tried using "{rt#}"? |
| 22:17.13 | sag_ich_nicht | kd3: just tested after you suggested it, doesn't work either |
| 22:17.16 | sag_ich_nicht | deDE client doesn't have that |
| 22:17.43 | kd3 | edited the post to say that |
| 22:20.10 | sag_ich_nicht | thanks |
| 22:20.10 | sag_ich_nicht | afk |
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| 22:49.42 | lagger | what languages are deDE, zhCN, zhTW, and esES? |
| 22:49.49 | foxlit | enUS |
| 22:49.57 | foxlit | oh, wrong question |
| 22:50.19 | foxlit | German, Chinese, Taiwanese, Spanish |
| 22:50.34 | lagger | k thanks |
| 22:54.43 | lagger | are the file names for all the stuff in interface\\icons\\ consistent across languages |
| 22:55.46 | foxlit | yes |
| 22:56.32 | Cairenn|afk | curse dead again? |
| 22:57.34 | foxlit | works slightly here |
| 22:57.42 | Cairenn|afk | getting 503 |
| 22:57.44 | foxlit | They disabled dynamic content, though |
| 22:58.00 | foxlit | So I'm guessing there's a cache layer that's currently serving stuff |
| 22:58.46 | lagger | anyone know what "Feral Charge Effect" is in german, french, and spanish |
| 22:59.46 | foxlit | You might be able to steal it from Bable |
| 23:00.02 | foxlit | But, meh, that's the easy way out! |
| 23:00.04 | lagger | it has feral charge |
| 23:00.07 | lagger | but not feral charge effect |
| 23:00.54 | foxlit | "Wilde Attacke - Effekt" |
| 23:01.34 | lagger | u mean |
| 23:01.37 | lagger | Wilde Attacke Effekt? |
| 23:01.43 | foxlit | no |
| 23:01.49 | foxlit | I mean exactly what's in the quotes |
| 23:01.55 | lagger | k |
| 23:02.41 | lagger | whyd they add a - in german |
| 23:03.36 | foxlit | loses interest and goes off to chase Cairenn. |
| 23:03.52 | foxlit | Run, Cairenn, run; I crush for 250k :( |
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| 23:21.59 | lagger | whats enGB |
| 23:22.35 | lagger | england english? |
| 23:24.42 | Cairenn|afk | aye |
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| 23:25.02 | Cairenn|afk | english, Great Britian |
| 23:30.09 | p3lim | as in enUS would be english United States |
| 23:39.27 | Xinhuan | http://us.gorgonnash.info/ |
| 23:39.33 | Xinhuan | so, is this chart a good indication of |
| 23:39.37 | Xinhuan | the hig pop servers |
| 23:39.39 | Xinhuan | high* |
| 23:39.50 | Xinhuan | and that proudmoore is overpopulated? |
| 23:41.47 | Drundia | omg some are still in phase 1 |
| 23:46.31 | Nechckn | Xinhuan based on the servers I have characters, that looks about right |
| 23:46.52 | Xinhuan | so few pvp servers at the top hehe |
| 23:47.11 | sag_ich_nicht | ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/3.0b5-candidates/rc2/firefox-3.0b5.en-US.win32.installer.exe <--for anyone else annoyed by the helvetica/type-1 fonts issue, this is fixed in this nightly RC of firefox 3 |
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| 23:54.34 | kd3 | whoo for someone aggroing doomwalker while I was alt-tabbed out... 2g repairbills are fun |
| 23:55.57 | Drundia | 2g is nothing |
| 23:56.23 | kd3 | still surprised to see it as a clothie, even after breaking that barrier a year ago |
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