| 00:00.29 | Antiarc | Heh, I'd definitely put it on a resume |
| 00:00.49 | Antiarc | I've put hundreds of hours into it. You'd damn well believe I want potential employeers to know about it :P |
| 00:01.08 | ScytheBlade1 | nods |
| 00:01.15 | Lunessa | And you did it for "fun" so it shows you can stick to a project in the face of adversity. |
| 00:03.00 | Corrodias | oh snap, tinytip appears to be inoperative |
| 00:03.30 | cogumel0 | how do I use DongleStub to load astrolabe and use it's api? |
| 00:04.14 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 00:04.20 | JoshBorke | i like how people search for curse.com |
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| 00:07.07 | Cide | I search for stuff like that |
| 00:07.13 | Cide | well, not the url since firefox would go there |
| 00:07.31 | Cide | but I type in "curse" and it does a transparent google search and gives me the best result |
| 00:09.21 | JoshBorke | yes, but this is an actual google search for curse.com |
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| 00:15.53 | Lopeppeppy | Guild drama for the lose! I totally hate attempting to raid after a patch. |
| 00:16.03 | Lopeppeppy | Attempting being the key word. "How does Omen work now?" |
| 00:16.21 | Corrodias | looks good, but you need to take a few minutes to reconfigure it |
| 00:16.43 | Corrodias | it looks like the only obviously nonfunctional thing in my UI is TinyTip |
| 00:16.54 | Corrodias | and that may not be a wowace updated addon... |
| 00:17.12 | dylanm | Are parts of it working? |
| 00:17.20 | dylanm | I know the positioning on the latest rev doesn't work. |
| 00:17.37 | Corrodias | as far as i can tell, it's not modifying my tooltip at all |
| 00:17.49 | Corrodias | no, that's not true |
| 00:18.11 | Corrodias | position and, i think, the outline |
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| 00:19.52 | enum | yo, so I have this code: http://wowi.pastey.net/84429. The OnLoad event doesn't seem to be firing. |
| 00:20.38 | Corrodias | does CreateFrame load it? |
| 00:20.39 | enum | super simple, just doing some logic testing to get familiar. Anyone have some insight they would be willing to enlighten me with? |
| 00:20.46 | enum | that's what I was thinkin |
| 00:20.59 | Corrodias | other than that, i'm clueless |
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| 00:21.22 | enum | I tried /dump FRAME with devtools, and FRAME comes back nil |
| 00:21.39 | dylanm | OnLoad does not work in this capacity. |
| 00:21.44 | dylanm | FRAME is not the name of anything. |
| 00:22.09 | enum | so for OnLoad to work, I would need an XML file with my frame in it right/? |
| 00:22.51 | dylanm | Yeah. Run your code upon PLAYER_LOGIN or something if you can't do it right away. |
| 00:23.06 | enum | basically, I am wanting to create an invisible frame to register all of my events... which will be in a hash that is run through a loop |
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| 00:24.40 | enum | ok, thanks |
| 00:24.44 | Corrodias | yep, tinytip is modifying the tooltip correctly except for colors and positioning, basically |
| 00:30.09 | ScytheBlade1 | I should really update my addons |
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| 00:33.58 | Adys | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=425294 |
| 00:34.11 | Adys | When i think I'm still shocked by people still using ie6 |
| 00:35.13 | Cide | anyone know how to reset/flush a database or a table (mysql)? |
| 00:35.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide: define "flush/reset" |
| 00:35.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide: TRUNCATE tableName; -- nukes all entries and resets any auto_increment fields |
| 00:35.42 | Cide | clear out all rows and reset auto id fields |
| 00:35.44 | Cide | ya, that |
| 00:35.45 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 00:35.45 | Cide | thanks |
| 00:35.46 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 00:35.49 | Cide | couldn't remember the name |
| 00:35.51 | ScytheBlade1 | TRUNCATE for you! |
| 00:36.00 | Cide | I'll TRUNCATE your mom! |
| 00:36.02 | ScytheBlade1 | It's a weird name for a function, but eh |
| 00:36.03 | ScytheBlade1 | :( |
| 00:36.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Wouldn't that be murder of an entire family? |
| 00:36.29 | Cide | basically. |
| 00:36.43 | ScytheBlade1 | And question for the general channel |
| 00:37.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Why can't we add Party/Raid source/destination filters to the combatlog? :( |
| 00:37.05 | ScytheBlade1 | (Using the stock interface) |
| 00:37.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Done by has "Friends" but... that's a very wide scope, especially out in the open |
| 00:40.46 | kd3 | ya... the thought crossed my mind but I never did think to ask zoot about it on the ptr |
| 00:40.54 | kd3 | bah |
| 00:41.02 | enum | is there a way to include a lua script, without adding it to the toc? I have some support files ( mostly variables, and configuration ) inside a seperate file than the logic, and didn't really want to add it to the toc |
| 00:41.10 | ScytheBlade1 | It'd be a (relatively) minor change |
| 00:41.15 | ScytheBlade1 | enum: <Script> in the XML |
| 00:41.21 | enum | thanks |
| 00:41.22 | ScytheBlade1 | enum: aside from that, you only have the .toc |
| 00:45.02 | ScytheBlade1 | wonders what thread to post the request in |
| 00:48.30 | p3lim | does ClearFont work with chatframe right now? |
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| 00:57.26 | enum | so hard to get out of the habit of using {} instead of then end |
| 01:01.18 | okik | how do I listen for an event? |
| 01:01.35 | okik | what's the code for listening to for example ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA ? |
| 01:02.30 | ScytheBlade1 | You register the event, and then write a function that handles it |
| 01:02.43 | okik | how do I register the event? :) |
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| 01:03.02 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Frame_RegisterEvent http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Parse_Event_Messages |
| 01:03.28 | okik | thx |
| 01:13.36 | Nom- | ~status |
| 01:13.36 | purl | Since Mon Mar 24 03:02:46 2008, there have been 29 modifications, 358 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 221 commands. I have been awake for 2d 22h 10m 50s this session, and currently reference 114541 factoids. I'm using about 23236 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 6713.64/268.55 child 0/0 |
| 01:13.57 | Nom- | hmm what was that factoid that has the login screen messages lol |
| 01:16.04 | enum | ok, so question... This code I am editing I did not originally write. The old developer had an OnEvent handler function that accepted arguments in the following format... function AddOn-OnEvent(event, a1, a2, a3, a4, a5, a6). Now, with the new Combat Log API changes this is broken. Would it be safe to assume using ... in place of a{1,2,3,4,5,6} ? |
| 01:16.53 | enum | I don't know if there is a way ( without hard coding ) to predict the number of params being passed |
| 01:17.20 | enum | so, in my mind ( yet inexperienced with the WoW API ) using ... would be the way to do this |
| 01:19.15 | Nom- | What kind of addon ? |
| 01:19.40 | Nom- | If it was parsing the Combat Log messages before, you'll need to rewrite the way it gets that information |
| 01:20.12 | enum | the event handler function is used to parse more than the combat log events |
| 01:20.40 | enum | for example, if something is linked in chat |
| 01:20.56 | dylanm | Shove ... off to something that makes the variables names sane... it's bad enough. |
| 01:21.09 | Nom- | http://www.wowwiki.com/COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_Details |
| 01:22.02 | enum | Nom-: I've read that page 30,000,000 times already. I understand how to get event argements, and how to filter. What I'm trying to do here is keep the same generic event handler for both non combat events, and combat events |
| 01:22.22 | enum | dylanm: what do you mean 'shove ... off to something makes the variables more sane'? |
| 01:22.36 | Wobin | Isn't there a teleporter to the CoT in Shatt somewhere now? |
| 01:22.47 | Nom- | Wobin: World's End Tavern |
| 01:23.44 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin: talk to the npc named 'zephyr' |
| 01:24.08 | Wobin | ta |
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| 01:27.11 | enum | basically what I am doing right now is passing ... to the OnEvent handler, which then triggers the OnEvent function for that event. Then, based on which event it is we assign variables using ... |
| 01:28.25 | enum | so like for combat, we know we will get timestamp, eventType, srcGUID, srcName, srcFlags, dstGUID, dstName, dstFlags |
| 01:28.48 | enum | and if it's a spell cast, we know we will get the spelld, spellName, pspellSchool, etc. |
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| 01:30.46 | Shirik | BT is fun ^^ |
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| 01:43.04 | NightHawkTheSane | http://simulatedcomicproduct.com/comics/2008-03-13-DexterityRoll.jpg |
| 01:44.09 | ScytheBlade1 | From 54 addons to 28 |
| 01:44.54 | ScytheBlade1 | That should help load times :P |
| 01:49.17 | ZealotOnAStick | how do we insert raid target symbol icons into chat? |
| 01:49.23 | ScytheBlade1 | {star} |
| 01:49.23 | ScytheBlade1 | etc |
| 01:49.28 | ScytheBlade1 | {rt1} also |
| 01:51.47 | Adys | Stupid question, is quel denas instanced? |
| 01:52.04 | ScytheBlade1 | No |
| 01:52.11 | Adys | aight |
| 01:52.13 | ScytheBlade1 | No more than Ghostlands and the BE capital anyways |
| 01:52.18 | Adys | yeah |
| 01:52.20 | ScytheBlade1 | It's on the Outland server |
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| 01:59.48 | ZealotOnAStick | ScytheBlade1: thank you! |
| 02:03.53 | ScytheBlade1 | ZealotOnAStick: ? |
| 02:03.56 | ScytheBlade1 | What'd I do? |
| 02:04.09 | ScytheBlade1 | wanders around aimlessly |
| 02:15.16 | Sixen | Anyone have a Mac ISO? :/. |
| 02:16.14 | Cairenn | blizz (us) forums crapping out for anyone else? |
| 02:16.31 | AnduinLothar | Mac ISO? |
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| 02:17.48 | AnduinLothar | http://the.taoofmac.com/space/ISO |
| 02:19.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: hehe, I have people in multiple channels saying things like "I don't have a minimap icon!", "what? I do" "new omen is FTL it looks different" "qq more nub" etc |
| 02:19.56 | Antiarc | ScytheBlade1: /omen skin load classic |
| 02:19.57 | ScytheBlade1 | It's the only addon that people are really talking about too |
| 02:20.01 | Antiarc | Also, update, there's a minimap button now |
| 02:20.06 | ScytheBlade1 | They mean the layout |
| 02:20.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah I know, I read the threads :) |
| 02:20.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Just the people who can't get used to change in general |
| 02:20.55 | ScytheBlade1 | (Despite playing WoW...) |
| 02:21.49 | Pazza_ | Is it a bug or was there an API change to fonts and scrolling message frames? |
| 02:22.06 | Sixen | AL: Yeah, an ISO of a Mac OS X. |
| 02:23.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: oh, and I'm told to tell you that the new warning sound makes multiple people want to "punch babies." On the flip side, that also means that it is rather effective at getting people's attention. Take that as you please. |
| 02:23.31 | ScytheBlade1 | ;) |
| 02:23.37 | Antiarc | If it gets people to listen up, mission accomplished! |
| 02:23.41 | Antiarc | And they can change it/turn it off |
| 02:23.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Indeed |
| 02:23.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Ohh new options menu |
| 02:24.04 | ScytheBlade1 | I like |
| 02:26.11 | Corrodias | somebody tried to give me a virus, possibly trojan |
| 02:26.38 | Corrodias | i get a message on MSN messenger from a friend asking if this image (URL) is me, but the "image" is a .com file |
| 02:26.48 | Corrodias | what a poor, pathetic attempt :( |
| 02:26.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: and last time I'll bug you for a bit. In Compact mode (my preference), the bottom-right resize handle is off by a few pixels. Needs to go down 3 pixels and it should be good. |
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| 02:27.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, compact "skin" not mode |
| 02:28.09 | Corrodias | i enjoy it, but i want my threat bar to be colored red, so i can find it more easily among the others |
| 02:28.16 | Antiarc | That's coming |
| 02:28.22 | Corrodias | I WANT IT YESTERDAY |
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| 02:28.29 | Antiarc | Patches accepted. :) |
| 02:28.36 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 02:28.37 | Corrodias | really digging the new look, though |
| 02:28.48 | ScytheBlade1 | If I had a clue about how to code an ace addon, I'd consider it |
| 02:29.04 | AlexanderYoshi | OH GOD THE MURLOCS ARE ATTACKING |
| 02:29.11 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 02:29.20 | AlexanderYoshi | Antiarc, you here? |
| 02:29.20 | Antiarc | Seriously, I went to bed at 8 AM this morning because I was up all night bugfixing. |
| 02:29.23 | Antiarc | AlexanderYoshi: Yo |
| 02:29.27 | AlexanderYoshi | Nice job on Omen 2 |
| 02:29.28 | AlexanderYoshi | I like it |
| 02:29.30 | Antiarc | Heh, thanks |
| 02:29.33 | Antiarc | Lots to do still |
| 02:29.33 | ScytheBlade1 | For whatever reason that made me laugh more than it should have, AY |
| 02:29.42 | Recluse | i saw the nonaggressive murlocs on the new island, but didn't chance attacking them yet. i fear they would team up |
| 02:30.04 | AlexanderYoshi | they used to have loot |
| 02:30.07 | AlexanderYoshi | it was nuts |
| 02:30.15 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 02:31.46 | ScytheBlade1 | And yes, agreed. After playing around with the settings, that alone is a huge improvement. Much kudos. |
| 02:32.22 | AlexanderYoshi | Settings? |
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| 02:32.39 | AlexanderYoshi | Oh yes on Omen |
| 02:32.41 | ScytheBlade1 | With *just the settings |
| 02:32.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
| 02:32.43 | AlexanderYoshi | I like the new art |
| 02:33.01 | Antiarc | More or less all I did was set up the ability to change border textures on top of what was there before |
| 02:33.17 | Recluse | do the options work now? couldn't get them to change last night |
| 02:33.31 | Antiarc | Which ones? |
| 02:33.43 | Recluse | like the border colors, for one |
| 02:33.45 | Antiarc | I've made like 60 commits in the last 24 hours |
| 02:33.48 | Antiarc | Yeah, I fxied that |
| 02:34.33 | Recluse | lol, yeah i noticed XD <3 frequent commits - and ty for getting it to show on fubar again =3 |
| 02:36.32 | Lunessa | Mmm... new combat log options on default are... very nice. |
| 02:36.49 | ScytheBlade1 | heh @ forums whining about the combat log |
| 02:37.07 | ScytheBlade1 | "something changed whaaaaa" |
| 02:37.18 | AlexanderYoshi | Most people complain about the defaults |
| 02:37.29 | AlexanderYoshi | I figured those designers at Blizzard must be totally wrong |
| 02:37.37 | Lunessa | I mean... I just spent some time fiddling with it... and ... It's NICE. Even if the under-pinnings weren't changed, just the filtering/coloring options are a vast improvement. |
| 02:37.44 | ScytheBlade1 | In all honesty |
| 02:37.47 | AlexanderYoshi | How do you use it? |
| 02:38.03 | Mike-N-Go | I sold 3 nether vortexes for 400G apiece yesterday! |
| 02:38.07 | ScytheBlade1 | I have a friend who is sooo pissed off at the "piss poor design" he gets frustrated just LOOKING at the new combat log |
| 02:38.08 | Lunessa | Riht-Click comabt log tab, choose settings. |
| 02:38.33 | Corrodias | but the new combat log has practically the same design as the old, doesn't it, except colored? by default |
| 02:38.59 | Mike-N-Go | 26 and 2/3 gold per badge.. lol |
| 02:39.19 | Lunessa | You know... It's been so long since I used the default UI... It's not as bad as I remember. |
| 02:39.20 | Corrodias | your friend should not play WoW if he gets stressed out from minor changes |
| 02:39.26 | Corrodias | it will be bad for his health |
| 02:39.28 | AlexanderYoshi | Hahah |
| 02:39.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Corrodias: agreed. You have no idea just how pissy he got too |
| 02:39.53 | Corrodias | he must be REALLY attached to white text |
| 02:39.56 | AlexanderYoshi | Haha, what's the poor design part? |
| 02:39.59 | Corrodias | but i bet you can turn it white |
| 02:40.03 | AlexanderYoshi | he doesn't like the buttons? |
| 02:40.07 | ScytheBlade1 | <[> god damn the new combat log sucks |
| 02:40.08 | ScytheBlade1 | <[> reparse over and over ftfuckinglose |
| 02:40.08 | AlexanderYoshi | or the lack of artification? |
| 02:40.15 | ScytheBlade1 | <[> my combat log must be a million lines right now because its taking >60 seconds to reparse |
| 02:40.17 | AlexanderYoshi | Oh, well that part blows |
| 02:40.18 | ScytheBlade1 | <[> they failed at design |
| 02:40.26 | AlexanderYoshi | Its terrible |
| 02:40.27 | Corrodias | push button; receive parsing |
| 02:40.36 | AlexanderYoshi | Reparsing = the suck |
| 02:40.44 | AlexanderYoshi | there should have been a cap on how many events it reparsed |
| 02:41.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Honestly? I'd be fine once the reparsing after you zone is "fixed" |
| 02:41.11 | ScytheBlade1 | If you switch views, I'm fine with it reparsing there |
| 02:41.29 | ScytheBlade1 | But he, however, just about blew up when I said that :P |
| 02:41.39 | NightHawkTheSane | reparsing after switching filters is more or less going to be a given |
| 02:41.43 | AlexanderYoshi | I think the bug is they did RegisterEvent("PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD") instead of "VARIABLES_LOADED") |
| 02:41.46 | NightHawkTheSane | how do you even avoid that? |
| 02:42.05 | ScytheBlade1 | NightHawkTheSane: by maintaing data in two tables per view, and adding events to the relevant tables as they come in |
| 02:42.09 | ScytheBlade1 | At least, that was his idea |
| 02:42.23 | NightHawkTheSane | .... |
| 02:42.46 | NightHawkTheSane | that sounds like a gigantic waste of memory for something thats really not going to happen all that often |
| 02:42.54 | enum | if I want to see the entirety of a hash, how would I do so? for example if my hash is: Data[spelld]['spellName'] = spellName; Data[spelld]['spellSchool'] = spellSchool; |
| 02:43.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, when I said that he said "I refuse to believe that lua has no concepts of pointers" |
| 02:43.19 | ScytheBlade1 | And considering that table assignment is by reference, he has a point |
| 02:44.39 | NightHawkTheSane | arguably. but I doubt there |
| 02:44.48 | Antiarc | Well, Lua has the concept of pointers, sorta |
| 02:44.58 | Antiarc | You can pass function references around and assign them to variables |
| 02:45.02 | Antiarc | Which is sorta like a pointer |
| 02:45.03 | NightHawkTheSane | there's really all that much of an issue, unless you habitually switch between liberal but distinct views |
| 02:45.07 | Antiarc | Not really, but it's functionally similar |
| 02:45.23 | NightHawkTheSane | in which case, you probably should be smacked |
| 02:50.08 | AlexanderYoshi | Anyone know if Perfect Raid is working? |
| 02:50.10 | Shirik | Any bongos3 users know if it's possible to permanently turn on the pet bar? |
| 02:50.24 | NightHawkTheSane | what do you mean permanently? |
| 02:50.41 | Shirik | even if I don't have a pet out, it'll show the bar |
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| 02:50.53 | Adys | Question.. does GetRealmName() send a serverside request, or is the realm name cached in the client? |
| 02:50.55 | NightHawkTheSane | i've not seen any bar addon that will do that |
| 02:51.07 | Shirik | how am I supposed to change keybindings then |
| 02:51.36 | NightHawkTheSane | thats a very good questoin |
| 02:51.41 | NightHawkTheSane | ask tuller? :p |
| 02:52.03 | AlexanderYoshi | Its cached in the client I think |
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| 02:52.45 | Adys | What I was thinking too, but doesnt seem to be instant |
| 02:54.05 | Cairenn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5591039086&postId=55905059339&sid=1#0 |
| 02:54.29 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 02:54.36 | Cairenn | dances |
| 02:55.06 | ScytheBlade1 | That's... interesting |
| 02:55.32 | ScytheBlade1 | And if you don't get any? :P |
| 02:55.43 | Cairenn | no more Zootfizzle for you! |
| 02:56.10 | NightHawkTheSane | so either she gets zootfizzle, or bribes, seems like win-win to me. |
| 02:56.17 | Cairenn | purrs |
| 02:56.28 | Shirik | why do I have to get picked for gorefiend :( |
| 02:56.33 | Shirik | But it wasn't my fault we wiped! |
| 02:56.33 | Shirik | Yay |
| 02:56.47 | ScytheBlade1 | ~failrik |
| 02:56.48 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 02:56.52 | Shirik | hey! |
| 02:56.53 | NightHawkTheSane | i hate gorefiend. >< |
| 02:56.57 | Shirik | I got most my guys dead! |
| 02:57.02 | ScytheBlade1 | lol @ most |
| 02:57.02 | Shirik | The dude before me didn't though |
| 02:57.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Grats on wiping the raid! |
| 02:57.12 | Shirik | meh, by that time they were saying it was already a wipe |
| 02:57.18 | Shirik | so I'm sitting there like "well, do I keep killing them?" |
| 02:57.23 | Shirik | so I started taking pot shots randomly |
| 02:57.51 | Shirik | but seriously, I'm the only new person in the raid and I have to get picked :( |
| 02:58.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Wait a minute |
| 02:58.08 | NightHawkTheSane | shit happens. :P be glad you got it near the end and not, say, first. |
| 02:58.13 | ScytheBlade1 | My angsty friend the right-facing bracket joined |
| 02:58.23 | [ | i have no angst |
| 02:58.30 | Shirik | o.o |
| 02:58.30 | ScytheBlade1 | That's a lie and you know it |
| 02:58.32 | Shirik | ~nickometer [ |
| 02:58.41 | [ | low enough for me |
| 02:58.47 | NightHawkTheSane | wouldn't left bracket be more appropriate a name than right-facing bracket? |
| 02:58.51 | Adys | ~nickometer ( |
| 02:58.57 | Shirik | ~nickometer ] |
| 02:59.04 | Adys | senses favouritism |
| 02:59.07 | [ | lol |
| 02:59.45 | [ | resumes lurking |
| 03:00.01 | Adys | pft |
| 03:00.06 | Adys | ~nickometer |
| 03:00.10 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:00.16 | NightHawkTheSane | ah, to attain the mystical null nick. |
| 03:00.36 | Adys | ~dividebyzero |
| 03:00.37 | purl | from memory, dividebyzero is Imagine you're landing on an aeroplane and the automatic pilot's working," he suggests. "If it divides by zero and the computer stops working - you're in big trouble. If your heart pacemaker divides by zero, you're dead. |
| 03:00.57 | Adys | Someone actually did it, woah |
| 03:03.13 | Lunessa | FaceBook is scary. It's actually pointing out people I probably know with a frightening degree of accuracy. |
| 03:04.31 | Shirik | told you ScytheBlade1! |
| 03:04.39 | Shirik | we wiped again and I didn't get picked |
| 03:04.40 | Shirik | so nyah |
| 03:04.40 | ScytheBlade1 | ? |
| 03:04.41 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:04.44 | ScytheBlade1 | You lie |
| 03:05.08 | Shirik | I do not |
| 03:05.16 | Shirik | I got all "Aggro from Shadowy Construct!" and then fell over |
| 03:05.38 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:05.45 | ScytheBlade1 | So you still failed |
| 03:06.06 | Shirik | wasn't my fault though! |
| 03:06.09 | Shirik | They got in the raid >.> |
| 03:06.09 | AlexanderYoshi | Lunessa, what feature is that? |
| 03:06.49 | Lunessa | Something they added recently (just noticed it today) called "People you may know" |
| 03:07.20 | Lunessa | it's found 6 people I actually do know - from mutual friends and what not. |
| 03:07.50 | Lunessa | And a long list of others that I probably know, but I'm crappy with real names so maybe not. |
| 03:07.53 | Shirik | facebook has been scary for a long time |
| 03:08.13 | Adys | They probably wanted to call it "Your friends we also spy on" but they didnt let them do it :( |
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| 03:08.32 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:09.31 | Lunessa | And thought it lists some women on here I /wish/ I knew, I can't honestly say that I do. |
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| 03:14.12 | Adys | Lunessa: Easy, add them as a friend, tell them "Remember me?" and they'll suddenly actually "remember you" |
| 03:14.22 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:14.40 | Adys | "oohhh yeaaaaah, THAT guy!" |
| 03:15.11 | Lunessa | Hahaha... Yeah. I tried that once in a bar. |
| 03:15.35 | Adys | No, never try that in bars, most women got an amazing facial memory |
| 03:15.56 | Adys | But if it's a blurry, facebookish pic, meh. |
| 03:16.28 | Lunessa | Me too. And it actually worked. I just couldn't remember her name, but we'd been to many events/parties and such in common. I dated her for 3 months after. :P |
| 03:16.53 | Adys | I read that "I deleted her 3 months after" |
| 03:17.17 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:17.30 | Lunessa | LOL |
| 03:17.48 | Lunessa | Acually... I pretty much did. |
| 03:18.48 | Adys | "Do not want" rm -rf thatgirl |
| 03:19.06 | enum | does anyone know how to grab the mob id? I was hoping it would be in the combat log event info, but from what I can tell it's not |
| 03:19.26 | ScytheBlade1 | enum: mob ID #? Like ones that you would use on wowhead? ?mob=ID |
| 03:19.33 | enum | yep |
| 03:19.39 | Adys | Enum, for what i gathered on the ptrs it seems the mob number isnt present, it creates an artificial tooltip |
| 03:20.01 | ScytheBlade1 | tonumber(substr(guid, 6, 12), 16) iirc |
| 03:20.08 | enum | thanks |
| 03:20.08 | ScytheBlade1 | That's probably wrong in every sense, let me find the post |
| 03:20.34 | Adys | (you actually can?) |
| 03:20.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes |
| 03:20.55 | Adys | awesome |
| 03:21.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Sec, finding the post |
| 03:21.17 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968233433&sid=1&pageNo=16#311 |
| 03:21.20 | Adys | Any idea if tooltips are still artificially created? |
| 03:21.29 | MentalPower | tonumber(string.sub(guid, 6, 12), 16) |
| 03:21.32 | MentalPower | aka, its correct |
| 03:21.38 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ what MentalPower said |
| 03:21.53 | enum | thanks ScytheBlade1, MentalPower |
| 03:22.23 | Adys | hmm |
| 03:22.54 | Wobin | Lunessa: Did you remember her name after all that? =P |
| 03:23.17 | sag_ich_nicht | I JUST CLEARED FUCKING MgT HEROIC COMPLETELY WITHOUT CC AND WITHOUT OMEN |
| 03:23.54 | Lunessa | Wobin: I remember it quite clearly now. Something about dating a woman who is totally wrong for you sears her name into your frontal lobe with a branding iron. |
| 03:24.12 | ScytheBlade1 | sag_ich_nicht: grats on not being terribad? |
| 03:24.13 | Wobin | omg, the People You May Know is creepy |
| 03:24.30 | Wobin | it's showing me connections I never knew existed |
| 03:24.44 | Drundia | Can someone with US account inform Slouken that CombatLogGetRetentionTime() isn't honored at all, it stores combat log messages until it's full around 27k entries. Reading his blues it seems he's not aware yet.... |
| 03:24.49 | Lunessa | Pretty soon, they're going to be asking to borrow money. |
| 03:25.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Drundia: Get? Do you mean Set? |
| 03:25.30 | Drundia | whatever |
| 03:25.33 | Wobin | It's like How does this person I know from High school know this person I met through a uni friend's gf, and yet another person I met through an entirely different connection |
| 03:25.36 | Drundia | it doesnt honor the return value from it |
| 03:25.45 | sag_ich_nicht | [04:24] <ScytheBlade1> sag_ich_nicht: grats on not being terribad? <--look no |
| 03:25.46 | sag_ich_nicht | trust me |
| 03:26.06 | Drundia | the code somewhere says "-- CombatLogGetRetentionTime() will now be honored over the MaxLines |
| 03:26.07 | Shirik | I don't see why people are saying MgT is hard |
| 03:26.11 | sag_ich_nicht | it isn't. |
| 03:26.22 | sag_ich_nicht | but with the setup we had against the random adds we had |
| 03:26.23 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin: its a scary, scary, small world, hmm? |
| 03:26.25 | sag_ich_nicht | it was near damn impossible |
| 03:26.49 | Lunessa | Wobin: teh interwebz is a small place. |
| 03:27.01 | Wobin | scarily so |
| 03:27.13 | Lunessa | They all read the same pr0n. |
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| 03:38.48 | NightHawkTheSane | http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/Kitty-Litter-Cake/Detail.aspx |
| 03:38.51 | NightHawkTheSane | oh how i love the SLOG |
| 03:39.27 | Guillotine | I wish it was still possible to overwrite dbc files without replacing the mpq :( |
| 03:39.37 | Guillotine | I want my wrath spells to do loopdy loops! |
| 03:40.02 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:40.11 | ScytheBlade1 | That zombie language was still a great find |
| 03:40.46 | Adys | Silly question, are addons able to log data other than in savedvariables ? |
| 03:40.51 | Iriel | Hey, can someone extract the Auction window open 'ding' sound for me? |
| 03:40.57 | Iriel | Adys: No |
| 03:41.00 | Adys | aight |
| 03:41.02 | Adys | thanks |
| 03:41.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Adys: only through the ChatLog, which is... suboptimal |
| 03:41.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Just when you thought that the saved variables were limited... comes chat logging! It sucks :) |
| 03:41.30 | Guillotine | I want to know if its for WotLK, an npc thing, or (I hope) something used when a spell is on you like Curse of Tongues and that people just haven't noticed it yet since people rarely talk in say and yell |
| 03:42.24 | Iriel | Generally when people ask that question (about output), the question is one of 'when' rather than 'what or where'.. Would I be right in your case Adys? |
| 03:42.34 | Iriel | Or do you have a specific use in mind |
| 03:42.57 | Adys | Nah, was thinking of gathering stats directly in xml |
| 03:43.03 | Adys | instead of having to convert savedvariables |
| 03:43.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah that isn't happening, less writing an XML string into a variable and saving that |
| 03:43.20 | Adys | ill stick to the latter :) |
| 03:43.26 | Guillotine | You know whats really wierd? Environmental damage is in the dbc files. So you could screw over a friend and overrwrite their mpq with something that makes them take 100k damage whenever they take any fall damage |
| 03:43.55 | Guillotine | kind of wierd that its possible for the client to control damage |
| 03:44.03 | Iriel | Are you sure it really is? |
| 03:44.06 | Iriel | I.e. that the data there is USED |
| 03:44.13 | Adys | There's a serverside check no? |
| 03:44.24 | Guillotine | Well, I have certainly heard of 'hacks' to make it so people don't take fall damage |
| 03:44.28 | Guillotine | so I assume now that that is how they do it |
| 03:44.41 | Adys | doubt it |
| 03:44.47 | Guillotine | I always assumed it just stopped you right before you hit the ground for a split second |
| 03:44.48 | Shaktar | Iriel, i have a taint problem with action bars involving showgrid... would you have a minute to look at the problem? |
| 03:44.56 | Adys | yeah |
| 03:45.03 | Guillotine | I suppose its possible that this isn't used at all, but... |
| 03:45.31 | ScytheBlade1 | It's possible that the server just send back "lol you fell" and then the client tells the server how much |
| 03:45.35 | Adys | theres too much unused stuff in the mpqs :) |
| 03:46.07 | Guillotine | ScytheBlade: well, position data is fully client side |
| 03:46.19 | Guillotine | its possible that it works the other way around though |
| 03:46.24 | Drundia | i think falling damage is someone client-based too |
| 03:46.32 | Drundia | somewhat even |
| 03:46.33 | Guillotine | client says 'I fell this far', server decides how much damage |
| 03:46.42 | Adys | exactly |
| 03:46.48 | Drundia | yes, that's probably the case |
| 03:46.53 | Drundia | with blink you can fall two times |
| 03:47.08 | Drundia | or not at all... |
| 03:49.55 | Corrodias | i've heard of people losing their connections while falling and ending up dead on login |
| 03:49.59 | Corrodias | the client cannot be responsible |
| 03:50.33 | Adys | you fall even while you are loading, Corrodias |
| 03:50.47 | Corrodias | that could be involved. i'd have to review the threads. |
| 03:51.23 | Guillotine | You know how when you're lagging your character keeps moving backwards? It could be that while you are loading you keep doing that if falling and, as such, you fall for a much longer time |
| 03:51.49 | Drundia | falling stops when you reach ground |
| 03:51.51 | Drundia | always |
| 03:51.58 | Drundia | it doesn't however when you reach water |
| 03:52.07 | Drundia | not always that is |
| 03:52.13 | Drundia | only once per frame |
| 03:52.17 | Guillotine | True |
| 03:52.35 | Drundia | but movement is also limited per frame now |
| 03:52.47 | Drundia | if you make a 3 second loop to lag framerate |
| 03:52.58 | Drundia | you won't move all 3 sec worth of movement speed |
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| 03:53.58 | Drundia | so you don't walk all the way into bosses or over a cliff under heavy lag.... at least sometimes they make some good features.... |
| 03:54.41 | Corrodias | you were able to, in the past, from what i understand, manipulate the client's movement method while unfocused and pass through portals without porting, that sort of thing |
| 03:54.55 | Corrodias | but it was patched to prevent that |
| 03:55.11 | Drundia | you still can get feared through portals without porting |
| 03:55.32 | dylanm | Yeah that's my favorite. |
| 03:56.02 | Drundia | just a few days ago i was at instance line when encounter was in progress. i have a feeling that i was exactly on spot because it disconnected me and ported the moment i logged back in |
| 03:56.34 | Iriel | Shaktar: How much code do you have? a few lines or tons? |
| 04:01.23 | Shaktar | well i posted on the forums... it's just using showgrid=1 in my action bar, when a weapon is switched in combat causes a blocked error |
| 04:01.48 | Shaktar | same problem is happening with any action bar using showgrid |
| 04:02.07 | Shaktar | such as the g15 mods and Multibar |
| 04:02.49 | Shaktar | so i assume it's a bug in wow... |
| 04:03.00 | Iriel | Be careful with the 'b' word |
| 04:03.27 | Shaktar | action bar mods such as mine (numpadbar) and g15 kind of need to show the layout of the buttons |
| 04:04.10 | Shaktar | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3773503744&postId=49757670035&sid=1#32 |
| 04:04.19 | Shaktar | if u want to look at all the info |
| 04:06.11 | Iriel | Oh, yes, that makes perfect sense |
| 04:06.26 | Iriel | if you transition a button with no action from 'showgrid' to 'not showgrid' it tries to hide the button |
| 04:06.45 | Iriel | That error however has nothing to do with it stopping you from DOING anything |
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| 04:07.13 | Iriel | I suggest not switching showgrid on no-action buttons until you're out of combat. |
| 04:07.35 | Iriel | though once you've tainted it, it stays that way |
| 04:07.39 | Iriel | ponders.. |
| 04:07.41 | Shaktar | well i set showgrid=1 when i first create a button, i never change it |
| 04:08.10 | enum | also, does anyone so, I've been reading over the UnitFlags section, and from what I understand of it... I should be able to use certain flags to tell what kind of data I'm looking at. e.g. A creature spell cast as opposed to a player spell cast. does that sound about right? |
| 04:08.25 | Shaktar | the trigger is when someone switches a weapon in combat, if they double click on an axe in their bag for example, to equip it while in combat |
| 04:09.58 | Legorol | Iriel: in case noone told you yet, the "2.4 compatible" version of Bookworm you have on wowi in fact is the zip file for 0.14-20100 |
| 04:10.10 | Iriel | Legorol: they hadn't.. i'll fix it |
| 04:10.55 | Legorol | you can tell i'm a great fan of that addon :o) |
| 04:10.58 | Shaktar | i have a question... in wow's showgrid code is the following: |
| 04:11.00 | Shaktar | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:11.07 | Legorol | was among the first few i tried to update ^^ |
| 04:11.33 | Shaktar | can i call that procedure straight and not use showgrid at all? |
| 04:11.38 | Iriel | Shaktar: I think there /IS/ a limitation in the current blizzard implementation that's going to mess you up |
| 04:11.42 | Shaktar | setting that global i mean |
| 04:11.43 | Drundia | so how do i best modify CombatLog_OnEvent() which most likely has zillion of upvalues? |
| 04:12.08 | Iriel | Shaktar: No, you're going to be somewhat stuck until we can convince the blizzardfolk to make it more resilliant |
| 04:12.17 | Iriel | Lego it was just a toc change anyhow 8-) |
| 04:12.27 | Legorol | i figured that much |
| 04:12.40 | Legorol | but it's no good having an addon labeled as 2.4 compatible and have an old toc value |
| 04:12.59 | Iriel | Lego but i've updated it 8-) |
| 04:13.02 | Shaktar | well that post of mine is in the Interface Action failed thread |
| 04:13.11 | Legorol | Iriel: zomg, that must've been a lot of work |
| 04:13.11 | Iriel | Legorol: Agreed, thats why I updated them 8-) |
| 04:13.27 | Iriel | I just messed up the upload, not sure how I managed that. |
| 04:13.34 | Legorol | what's with the 2.4 patch, everyone seems to be messing up their zip files |
| 04:13.44 | Iriel | I had all the right zips, I think I missed the radio button that said 'replace' |
| 04:13.55 | Iriel | (My zips are automatically named based on the tocs) |
| 04:15.04 | Shaktar | i wonder if it would be an easy fix for bliz to make it more resilient... do you think slouken would look at it? |
| 04:15.27 | Nechckn | Iriel that radio button zapped my upload efforts yesterday too! =) |
| 04:16.42 | Iriel | Shaktar: I dunno, I'm posting a reply on the thread tho |
| 04:16.57 | Guillotine | Was there a 10th/11th class in beta? For some reason Class IDs 6 and 10 are missing from the .dbc files |
| 04:17.05 | Shaktar | cool, ty for the help |
| 04:17.19 | Drundia | speaking of taint. standard blizzard raid pullouts (yes, that thing no one uses) still has "show target" dunctionality tainted by nearly every possible addon |
| 04:17.23 | Iriel | Awww.. all the freaky GUId's from yesterday changed 8-( |
| 04:18.26 | Fisker- | datamining! |
| 04:18.28 | Fisker- | BURN THE WITCHES |
| 04:18.31 | Guillotine | Hmm, so theres going to have to be at least a small patch before S4 |
| 04:18.46 | kd3 | 'course... only 3 classes have their gear in iirc |
| 04:18.55 | Guillotine | Well, for all we know that could be in the files |
| 04:19.10 | Guillotine | We don't know what the IDs refer to unless its available from server |
| 04:20.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Guillotine: yeah, and the armory is missing a class ID # also (2 or 4 iirc) |
| 04:20.36 | Guillotine | Really? I would assume it would be missing the same as dbc file |
| 04:20.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Nope |
| 04:20.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Just one |
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| 04:24.09 | NightHawkTheSane | haha "Prim older lady: You guys could eat out. Also, you could go out for dinner... Yes, I'm twelve." |
| 04:24.21 | Cairenn | lol |
| 04:24.36 | NightHawkTheSane | <3 overheardinnewyork |
| 04:27.45 | kd3 | lmao... there's a level 1 named "Ilinkspells" in /2 |
| 04:28.09 | Wobin | I wonder what he does |
| 04:28.16 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
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| 04:29.50 | kd3 | so... so glad they left the insta-port from IF in |
| 04:30.01 | Wobin | to the isle? |
| 04:30.02 | Wobin | s'true |
| 04:30.07 | Shirik | batrick: ping |
| 04:30.15 | kd3 | gah |
| 04:30.20 | Legorol | kd3: not sure how else could alliance possibly get there otherwise |
| 04:30.27 | kd3 | 12 minute flight? |
| 04:30.50 | Shirik | lol |
| 04:30.56 | Shirik | I wondered how alliance got there |
| 04:31.00 | Shirik | for us it's just right there |
| 04:31.03 | Shirik | for you guys... lol |
| 04:31.10 | Legorol | well even for horde, you have to fly |
| 04:31.15 | Shirik | yeah but it's not long |
| 04:31.17 | Legorol | without a premade FP, you couldn't reach it either |
| 04:31.18 | Adys | ezmode horde, ezmode horde! nerf, quick! |
| 04:31.19 | kd3 | on day 1 it was IF -> EPL -> HH -> IQD |
| 04:31.38 | kd3 | we still had the FP... just not the abbreviated version we have now |
| 04:31.39 | Legorol | yah that was fun |
| 04:31.56 | Adys | kd3: hh? |
| 04:32.02 | Legorol | btw, which SSO vendor sells the JC designs? |
| 04:32.12 | kd3 | hatchet hills |
| 04:32.13 | Legorol | the quartermaster only has a few, not the full set.. who am i looking for? |
| 04:32.16 | Adys | oh |
| 04:32.23 | kd3 | Legorol, she's not available yet |
| 04:32.29 | kd3 | phase 4C... [[Shaani]] |
| 04:32.35 | Legorol | ah it's one of the late spawning NPCs |
| 04:33.19 | NightHawkTheSane | gaaaah |
| 04:33.23 | NightHawkTheSane | stupid chat window settings! |
| 04:33.28 | NightHawkTheSane | save, for the love of god! |
| 04:33.34 | Legorol | i have that too! |
| 04:33.40 | Legorol | tell me if you find out how to make them save |
| 04:33.55 | Legorol | or is that a known issue? |
| 04:34.03 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm not sure |
| 04:34.18 | NightHawkTheSane | some people in my guild have the same problem, some say they dont. *shrug* |
| 04:34.22 | kd3 | known issue. don't think there's a way to fix it |
| 04:34.28 | NightHawkTheSane | well, theres that answer. |
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| 04:37.28 | Legorol | maybe i should try and look at the UI forums for these kind of things |
| 04:37.40 | Legorol | it tends to be more sane than General so i shouldn't be so averse to it |
| 04:39.10 | Adys | wow |
| 04:39.22 | Adys | opera passes acid3 in devbuilds |
| 04:39.40 | Xinhuan | pass = above 50 points? |
| 04:39.45 | Adys | no, 100% |
| 04:39.47 | Wobin | hehe |
| 04:39.58 | Wobin | offers IE a conceded pass |
| 04:40.17 | dylanm | Webkit just got there too. |
| 04:40.30 | Adys | dont be so bad with the IE team, Im sure they'll have it done before Acid7 is released |
| 04:41.09 | Drundia | what what what? evil allies can teleport directly from IF and we have to fly from one of the most retarded cities in game? |
| 04:41.50 | Drundia | there should have been portal from shattrath really..... |
| 04:43.32 | kd3 | there is one... in phase 2b |
| 04:45.09 | MentalPower | if risen still played, that would be in a week or two, but risen quit |
| 04:45.15 | MentalPower | so my server will be one of the last |
| 04:45.22 | MentalPower | plays on Alleria |
| 04:45.49 | kd3 | they finally tired of the "world of badgecraft"? |
| 04:46.00 | Legorol | plays on one of the most active PvE realms in EU |
| 04:46.11 | Legorol | by the end of the patch day, first phase was on 45% |
| 04:46.14 | Legorol | is that fast? |
| 04:46.23 | kd3 | we cleared phase 1 a few hours ago |
| 04:46.36 | Legorol | so that's what, 2 days? |
| 04:46.39 | Legorol | day and a half? |
| 04:46.42 | kd3 | something in the 70s at 11:59 on patch day |
| 04:46.49 | kd3 | ~28-30 hours |
| 04:46.54 | Legorol | then we are aslow |
| 04:49.28 | Nom- | Yeah, when I logged off last night we were at over 45% |
| 04:49.40 | Nom- | That's just coming off peak usage time for our realm on patch day |
| 04:51.59 | Shirik | batrick: ping? |
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| 04:56.49 | Amarande | Oh god no. |
| 04:58.09 | Amarande | Any idea if some characters are now unplayable until 2.4.1, whenever Blizzard decides to release it? |
| 04:58.34 | dylanm | What |
| 05:00.50 | Amarande | dylanm: you get a fatal exception in Silvermoon and then can't log back on that character without the same |
| 05:01.10 | dylanm | Wait the people that got killed in-flight? |
| 05:01.16 | Shirik | so, ok |
| 05:01.37 | Shirik | anyone familiar with POSIX C probably knows the structure "timespec." Does anyone else find it odd that Microsoft decided to declare this in Winsock2.h? |
| 05:02.05 | Shirik | along with timeval |
| 05:02.22 | Amarande | dylanm: actually, I was riding through Silvermoon on the way to the flight master and as I was going through Murder Row it crashed |
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| 05:06.01 | Iriel | You escaped! |
| 05:06.06 | widgertick | liez |
| 05:09.22 | Shirik | apparently tomtom is a simple navigation assistant |
| 05:09.35 | Shirik | those words are stuck on my screen >< |
| 05:10.17 | Cairenn | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7314353.stm |
| 05:17.37 | Legorol | Cairenn: that's actually very old |
| 05:18.13 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:18.16 | Legorol | the actual lawsuit began in february 2007 |
| 05:18.23 | Legorol | bbc just didn't bother reporting it |
| 05:18.39 | Cairenn | I know that, but my point was that BBC has picked it up now |
| 05:19.15 | Adys | So for the ones interested, if you havent heard about it ive been working since a few weeks on OpenWDB, which is an XML implementation of the wdb files and which should interest some people in this chan (read http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Adys/OpenWDB ) |
| 05:19.26 | widgertick | I love that World of Warcraft had a plague |
| 05:19.41 | Adys | and I need a few beta testers so if theres anyone interested, i released the first xml (itemcache) on http://addsanddishes.blogspot.com/2008/03/openwdb-again-i-need-beta-testers.html |
| 05:19.41 | Legorol | i liked that one too |
| 05:19.59 | Legorol | but my favourite was when people blew up the AH by summoning pets with the bomb |
| 05:20.01 | Adys | ends advertisment |
| 05:20.39 | widgertick | Adys: Very interesting! |
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| 05:22.02 | Wobin | Legorol: Isn't the 'copy into RAM' issue a more recent development though? |
| 05:22.18 | Legorol | nope, it's already in that suit |
| 05:22.42 | Drundia | now that's totally awesome *not* |
| 05:22.44 | Legorol | actually i think it started as early as january 2007, the documents i can find for feb 2007 are already various counter-claim filings |
| 05:23.03 | Drundia | local version of CombatLog_OnEvent is used all over Blizzard_CombatLog and no way to modify it.... |
| 05:23.33 | Drundia | i think i have to slap everyone involved |
| 05:24.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow, no wonder they store it in DBC. 2GB of XML isn't pretty. |
| 05:25.22 | Adys | yeah |
| 05:25.23 | ScytheBlade1 | It's like 2GB of data that I hate based just on file extension alone. |
| 05:25.41 | Nom- | pfft @ 2GB |
| 05:25.57 | Nom- | I just shifted 120GB of compressed data from our billing database onto our dev network |
| 05:26.29 | Nom- | 'twas a painful process, I tell ya... |
| 05:26.41 | ScytheBlade1 | See, that's compressed data. |
| 05:26.45 | ScytheBlade1 | This is 2GB of *XML* |
| 05:26.46 | ScytheBlade1 | *BURN* |
| 05:27.05 | Adys | spews xml all over Dotted |
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| 05:29.58 | ScytheBlade1 | BAH |
| 05:30.04 | ScytheBlade1 | SECOND TIME I'VE DELETED MY ADDON |
| 05:30.53 | AnduinLothar | l2 hard link |
| 05:31.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Windows :( |
| 05:31.06 | ScytheBlade1 | I nuked my PTR folder (yay not needed) |
| 05:31.13 | ScytheBlade1 | That had my only copy of the addon in it (so it was needed) |
| 05:31.16 | ScytheBlade1 | :*( |
| 05:31.19 | ScytheBlade1 | FOR THE SECOND TIME IN A WEEK |
| 05:32.13 | widgertick | You should try and avoid doing that. |
| 05:32.37 | widgertick | We should add that to the FAQ |
| 05:32.41 | widgertick | "Why doesn't my AddOn work?" |
| 05:32.41 | MentalPower | ScytheBlade1: hardlinks are possible |
| 05:32.44 | widgertick | "You deleted it." |
| 05:32.47 | ScytheBlade1 | MentalPower: yes but that's a pain |
| 05:32.56 | MentalPower | !g ntfslink |
| 05:32.57 | batbot | MentalPower: elsdoerfer.name » ntfslink <http://elsdoerfer.name/=ntfslink> |
| 05:33.06 | MentalPower | ScytheBlade1: ^^^^ not really ^^^^ |
| 05:33.22 | ScytheBlade1 | widgertick: I had this discussion earler (about a week ago) with Cairenn. I said, "holy crap, I've got an *actual addon* to upload for 2.4" |
| 05:33.27 | ScytheBlade1 | She nearly died at the thought |
| 05:33.32 | Amarande | well, PUGs are probably going to be super happy now |
| 05:33.42 | ScytheBlade1 | After that, I said that hey, don't worry, it'll never be uploaded |
| 05:33.51 | Amarande | I get the feeling that almost every single dialup or otherwise slow connected WoW user is going to quit very soon, leaving us with decent connections |
| 05:33.54 | ScytheBlade1 | my computer will crash, my internet will be terminated, or "something else bad will happen" |
| 05:34.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Sadly this "something else" was "lul the author deleted it" "TWICE" |
| 05:34.16 | Cide | ScytheBlade1: I madez you a adon. but I eated it. |
| 05:34.20 | ScytheBlade1 | It's fate, I've accepted this a long time ago |
| 05:34.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide: lol |
| 05:34.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Like really, lol |
| 05:34.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Excuse me while I laugh/cry myself to sleep |
| 05:34.45 | ScytheBlade1 | dies |
| 05:34.59 | Cide | mission successful |
| 05:35.30 | ScytheBlade1 | We've all done stupid things |
| 05:35.40 | ScytheBlade1 | But I think I'm the first to delete an addon |
| 05:35.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Twice |
| 05:38.33 | Drundia | hmm |
| 05:38.53 | Drundia | tries to think about a second time |
| 05:38.59 | Adys | you're not ScytheBlade1 :P |
| 05:39.07 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 05:39.51 | Drundia | i'm sure i did it once |
| 05:39.53 | Adys | I deleted two addons twice :\ including once "Bah ill never finish that one *deletes*" |
| 05:40.08 | ScytheBlade1 | That's slightly different. |
| 05:40.10 | Adys | and then a hour later "Wait, didnt I delete this one..? Uh which one did I delete" |
| 05:40.16 | ScytheBlade1 | I had the intention of uploading this one |
| 05:40.17 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 05:40.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, that too is pretty funny |
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| 05:40.43 | Fisker- | hah |
| 05:40.53 | art3mis | http://chicago.metblogs.com/archives/images/2006/05/emo_bear.JPG |
| 05:40.53 | Drundia | meanwhile i want to say "too bad you can't replace blizzard-signed files with your own not signed ones" |
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| 05:42.47 | ScytheBlade1 | For the curious |
| 05:43.00 | ScytheBlade1 | tonumber(string.sub(UnitGUID("player"), 6, 12), 16) |
| 05:43.13 | ScytheBlade1 | if you run that on a player GUID, it just might return data! |
| 05:43.22 | ScytheBlade1 | (other than zeroes) |
| 05:44.03 | bam_ | can that be used on other units than "player"? |
| 05:44.19 | ScytheBlade1 | UnitGUID() accepts any valid unitid |
| 05:45.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Also of note, apparently my server (Doomhammer) has created 64,443,430 characters since initial creation |
| 05:45.21 | Drundia | but returns random crap for most unitids or what? |
| 05:45.23 | Amarande | how do you get that data? |
| 05:45.49 | bam_ | under what circumstances can a frame's level change? |
| 05:45.51 | Drundia | characters might have cross-server count.... |
| 05:45.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Created a new character. Took the GUID, plugged it into a calculator, and pressed the "Decimal" button |
| 05:46.02 | ScytheBlade1 | That too is possible |
| 05:46.18 | Drundia | after all they are kept in cross-realm battlegrounds |
| 05:46.31 | Drundia | and i would assume through server transfers too |
| 05:46.46 | Drundia | i should have took my guid on ptr.... |
| 05:46.48 | Cide | ScytheBlade1: I thought GUID's were unique across realms? |
| 05:47.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Not through server transfers. That's a good point. |
| 05:47.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide: in theory we don't have any guarantees. I think the closest to a guarantee is that it'll be unique in a battlegroup. |
| 05:47.27 | Adys | a guid changes when a char is transferred |
| 05:47.36 | Cide | ScytheBlade1: get 5 battlegroups |
| 05:47.37 | Drundia | did you try it? |
| 05:47.44 | Cide | ScytheBlade1: create 5 characters semi-simultaneously |
| 05:47.49 | Cide | see how close the numbers match each other |
| 05:47.57 | Adys | Drundia: Im positive :) |
| 05:48.00 | ScytheBlade1 | I can do two, not five ;) |
| 05:48.09 | Cide | other people could help :P |
| 05:48.11 | widgertick | ScytheBlade1: Try on a different server =P |
| 05:48.16 | widgertick | You could make five =p |
| 05:48.19 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 05:48.25 | Drundia | on newer one probably |
| 05:48.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Emphasis on the simultaneously part |
| 05:48.34 | ScytheBlade1 | That'd be... a bit harder |
| 05:48.39 | Drundia | i think i could make a char on some spanish server |
| 05:48.43 | Drundia | they are all newer |
| 05:48.47 | widgertick | Create the characters and never log in. |
| 05:48.50 | Keias | Ugh |
| 05:48.58 | ScytheBlade1 | ... duh. |
| 05:49.00 | Keias | Phase 2 is taking so long for the shattered sun stuffs :( |
| 05:49.01 | Drundia | never log in might as well not work |
| 05:49.02 | widgertick | You could do five really fast |
| 05:49.14 | Drundia | guid may get assigned on first login |
| 05:49.16 | ScytheBlade1 | I've had this migraine since Sunday, so I actually mean it when I say thanks for pointing out the obvious ;) |
| 05:49.19 | ScytheBlade1 | goes and plays |
| 05:49.21 | widgertick | Oh, I suppose that's possible |
| 05:49.28 | Adys | Well |
| 05:49.29 | Drundia | you never know how they make it |
| 05:49.35 | widgertick | True =) |
| 05:49.42 | Adys | since characters dont get created before their first login, i doubt the guid would be generated for that |
| 05:49.45 | ScytheBlade1 | I really doubt that it is literally GLOBALLY unique. |
| 05:49.49 | Drundia | after combat log retention time is ignored completely.... you can set it and get it and it's not used anywhere |
| 05:49.58 | ScytheBlade1 | That'd mean that they have a central server passing out IDs on every character created :P |
| 05:50.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Battlegroups I can see |
| 05:50.07 | Drundia | that's possible |
| 05:50.09 | Adys | ScytheBlade1: dont be so sure |
| 05:50.14 | Drundia | they are all available in forums |
| 05:50.20 | Adys | forum ids are globally unique |
| 05:50.27 | Adys | and those are character ids from the game |
| 05:50.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Forums don't use the same IDs as the GUID in hex |
| 05:50.33 | Amarande | not to mention, the GUID idea supposedly was supposed to be really global |
| 05:50.40 | Amarande | as in that GUID not only only refers to that WoW character |
| 05:50.47 | Adys | ScytheBlade1: Not the same ones, but the same princip :) |
| 05:50.57 | Amarande | but, across the entire net, across everything that uses GUID's, that GUID ideally refers only to that specific character in the game of WoW |
| 05:51.10 | ScytheBlade1 | The forums can get away with it though. They're not instant copies of the live game. |
| 05:51.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Read: character selection update lag |
| 05:51.28 | Drundia | well |
| 05:51.35 | Drundia | my guid is 2-million something |
| 05:51.36 | Adys | they are still the ids from the game |
| 05:51.47 | Adys | even if they are not the guid :) |
| 05:51.50 | Drundia | and i was created a few days after server was started |
| 05:52.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Adys: how do you know that? How do you know that they aren't forum-specific? |
| 05:52.10 | Adys | Im positive :P |
| 05:52.26 | Adys | wonders if there is actually a pattern between guids and charids |
| 05:52.31 | ScytheBlade1 | No offense, but I'm really poking at what it /is/ given proof :) |
| 05:52.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Emphasis on the latter part :) |
| 05:52.39 | ScytheBlade1 | If you can prove it, power to you |
| 05:52.57 | Adys | I cant prove it, hence why i said Im positive :) |
| 05:53.00 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 05:53.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, there is something disproved |
| 05:53.39 | Drundia | ok checking eu-warsong (up since release) |
| 05:53.46 | ScytheBlade1 | new character on a different realm = lower GUID than new character on my main realm |
| 05:53.54 | Drundia | oh noes |
| 05:53.58 | Drundia | :( |
| 05:53.58 | ScytheBlade1 | F34D73 vs. 3D75426 |
| 05:54.10 | Adys | well, ScytheBlade1 |
| 05:54.33 | Adys | since guids are globally unique, you could also put a player indicator, aswell as a realm id probably |
| 05:54.57 | Adys | (otherwise i dont know how they'd be parsed in bgs, given blizzard is not playing the luck game) |
| 05:55.50 | Drundia | 27 million something |
| 05:56.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Considering that they are reset on transfers (even account to account transfers), I can see them being battlegroup unique and not WoW unique (let alone WoW global-across-the-world unique) |
| 05:56.58 | Adys | I cant |
| 05:57.10 | Adys | happened more than once for a server to change battlegroup after all |
| 05:57.24 | Adys | unless they'd reset all the guids, ofcourse |
| 05:57.36 | ScytheBlade1 | GUIDs aren't really exposed to the players. It'd be trivial to reset the GUIDs on the server side should that happen |
| 05:57.49 | ScytheBlade1 | There is no guarantee that what my GUID is will be the same tomorrow |
| 05:57.53 | Adys | *shrugs* :) |
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| 05:58.23 | ScytheBlade1 | That said, I took widgertick's suggestion, and made 5 characters on a random realm, in quick succession |
| 05:58.28 | Adys | Which makes me wonder, can you try to get to lvl 2 and see if the guid is the same? |
| 05:58.30 | ScytheBlade1 | F34D73 |
| 05:58.30 | ScytheBlade1 | F34D78 |
| 05:58.30 | ScytheBlade1 | F34D79 |
| 05:58.30 | ScytheBlade1 | F34D7B |
| 05:58.30 | ScytheBlade1 | F34D7D |
| 05:58.31 | Drundia | pfff |
| 05:58.39 | AlexanderYoshi | hey Antiarc |
| 05:58.44 | Drundia | do they include server id? |
| 05:58.46 | Adys | oh |
| 05:58.48 | AlexanderYoshi | Isthe AoE mode not working? |
| 05:58.53 | AlexanderYoshi | aka NYI |
| 05:58.55 | Adys | Ill check, Drundia |
| 05:59.22 | Antiarc | It's implemented, but apparently buggy |
| 05:59.29 | Antiarc | It works fine for me, but not others, I guess |
| 05:59.32 | Antiarc | I'm working on it :/ |
| 05:59.33 | Cide | fix your shit gosh! |
| 05:59.39 | Antiarc | http://jira.wowace.com/browse/OMEN <-- fwiw |
| 05:59.44 | AlexanderYoshi | aha |
| 05:59.52 | Antiarc | Kaelten just set it up for me |
| 05:59.52 | AlexanderYoshi | interestingly |
| 05:59.56 | Antiarc | And I desperately need it :P |
| 06:00.01 | AlexanderYoshi | my tank sees only himself, but we all see him just fine |
| 06:00.11 | AlexanderYoshi | Hehe |
| 06:00.13 | AlexanderYoshi | I believe it |
| 06:00.15 | Adys | ScytheBlade1: Could you give me the raw guid? |
| 06:00.31 | ScytheBlade1 | 0x00howevermany0000(whateverIpasted) |
| 06:01.04 | Drundia | Hello, AlexanderYoshi, I thought I might want to slap you for complete inability to hook CombatLog_OnEvent which actually get used by your creation.... |
| 06:01.31 | Cairenn | Drundia: o.O |
| 06:01.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Adys: there are 16 hex digits in the GUIDs, so pad accordingly |
| 06:01.58 | Adys | nods |
| 06:02.35 | AlexanderYoshi | Well, thankfull |
| 06:02.43 | AlexanderYoshi | I'm a vastly superior coder to you |
| 06:02.44 | NightHawkTheSane | ... i should try this http://aa1.naurunappula.com/0/073/220/182693.jpg |
| 06:02.57 | AlexanderYoshi | and I therefore get to laugh in your face while I swim in gold bars |
| 06:03.10 | AlexanderYoshi | and get swooned by beautiful women who peel my grapes |
| 06:03.25 | AlexanderYoshi | Oh, wait, scratch that |
| 06:03.41 | AlexanderYoshi | I'm actually in a chat room full of other hairy guys with an overbite |
| 06:03.55 | Cairenn | not all of us ^_- |
| 06:04.05 | AlexanderYoshi | Watching them fling net doody at me for a bug introduced by a few modding recommendations |
| 06:04.25 | AlexanderYoshi | But thankfully |
| 06:04.33 | AlexanderYoshi | To pull me out of this esoteric realm |
| 06:04.40 | AlexanderYoshi | I'm wildly mashing shadowbolt on my T6 warlock |
| 06:04.54 | AlexanderYoshi | hoping that we might kill this trash in time to fight Ilildan Thursday |
| 06:04.55 | widgertick | ~lart AlexanderYoshi |
| 06:04.55 | purl | dumps 42 tons of dirt, manure, and fish heads on AlexanderYoshi |
| 06:04.59 | widgertick | Down boy. |
| 06:05.09 | AlexanderYoshi | Ku ku ku |
| 06:05.15 | AlexanderYoshi | What's ~lart? |
| 06:05.25 | ScytheBlade1 | ~define lart |
| 06:05.26 | purl | Use ~dict for definitions. |
| 06:05.30 | ScytheBlade1 | ~dict lart |
| 06:05.31 | AlexanderYoshi | ~dick |
| 06:05.32 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, dick is male genatalia, or Dessimat0r |
| 06:05.39 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 06:05.52 | Adys | ~define infobot |
| 06:05.52 | purl | Use ~dict for definitions. |
| 06:05.56 | AlexanderYoshi | ~lart |
| 06:05.58 | Adys | bleh |
| 06:06.01 | Adys | ~dict infobot |
| 06:06.03 | ScytheBlade1 | lart takes a target :) |
| 06:06.08 | ScytheBlade1 | ~larg AlexanderYoshi |
| 06:06.14 | AlexanderYoshi | rotfl |
| 06:06.15 | ScytheBlade1 | ~lart AlexanderYoshi |
| 06:06.15 | purl | beats AlexanderYoshi to within 2.54cm of his life |
| 06:06.17 | Cairenn | hahaha |
| 06:06.18 | AlexanderYoshi | that's fantastic |
| 06:06.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Typing takes skill too |
| 06:06.24 | Xinhuan | stabs ScytheBlade1 with a pillow |
| 06:06.25 | AlexanderYoshi | ~lart Purl |
| 06:06.26 | purl | takes a big bite out of alexanderyoshi's jugular vein |
| 06:06.30 | AlexanderYoshi | ouch! |
| 06:06.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Purl isn't stupid :) |
| 06:06.35 | Cairenn | hehehehe |
| 06:06.39 | AlexanderYoshi | That's awesome |
| 06:06.43 | ScytheBlade1 | ~botsnack |
| 06:06.43 | purl | ScytheBlade1: :) |
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| 06:06.53 | Xinhuan | [Whatislove] whispers: Is dat a new instance? |
| 06:06.55 | Xinhuan | /facepalm |
| 06:06.56 | AlexanderYoshi | Drundia, tell you waht |
| 06:07.00 | AlexanderYoshi | You still here? |
| 06:07.05 | Cairenn | AlexanderYoshi: if you want awesome, tell him he sucks |
| 06:07.10 | AlexanderYoshi | Is he muted? |
| 06:07.13 | AlexanderYoshi | Unmute him if so |
| 06:07.15 | AlexanderYoshi | I want to talk to him |
| 06:07.30 | Adys | purl you suck! |
| 06:07.30 | purl | Sorry! |
| 06:07.33 | Adys | :( |
| 06:07.39 | MentalPower | purl sucks |
| 06:07.40 | purl | only if you ask nicely and pay well. |
| 06:07.40 | widgertick | I love you purl! |
| 06:07.46 | AlexanderYoshi | ROTF: |
| 06:07.46 | MentalPower | purl you suck |
| 06:07.46 | purl | and very well I might add |
| 06:07.49 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 06:07.55 | Iriel | Hm, How many of the high bits of a GUID do I need to check to determine if something's an NPC? |
| 06:08.06 | Iriel | I've seen both 0xF13 and 0xF53 now |
| 06:08.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel: I just posted about that on the forums... you cannot use that reliably, I don't think |
| 06:08.30 | AlexanderYoshi | Oh well, I think Drundia left, so he must have just wanted to vent. |
| 06:08.31 | Xinhuan | iriel, isn't UnitClass() enough? |
| 06:08.31 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm pretty sure that you have to check the combat log flags to be certain |
| 06:08.43 | Xinhuan | i think UnitClass returns the name of the NPC now if its not a player |
| 06:08.47 | MentalPower | Iriel: tonumber(string.sub(guid, 6, 12), 16) == 0 |
| 06:08.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968233433&postId=55906460857&sid=1#544 |
| 06:08.50 | Iriel | UnitGUID has no combat log flags 8-) |
| 06:08.52 | ScytheBlade1 | MentalPower: wrong |
| 06:08.53 | MentalPower | Iriel: tonumber(string.sub(guid, 6, 12), 16) == 0 (its a player) |
| 06:08.57 | ScytheBlade1 | MentalPower: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968233433&postId=55906460857&sid=1#544 |
| 06:09.02 | MentalPower | ScytheBlade1: in my dealings |
| 06:09.14 | ScytheBlade1 | On Doomhammer, that is not a guarantee :) |
| 06:09.39 | Xinhuan | UnitClass("target") <-- returns name of NPC if its a NPC |
| 06:09.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Xinhuan: yeah, but that can't take a GUID, which is the problem |
| 06:10.01 | MentalPower | interesting |
| 06:10.10 | Drundia | someone wanted to talk to me? it's so unbelievable |
| 06:10.29 | Xinhuan | hm |
| 06:10.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel: theoretically, if people make enough characters on a battlegroup (still need to poke about that detail), they could hit the high bytes |
| 06:10.39 | AlexanderYoshi | *gasp* |
| 06:10.42 | Xinhuan | not much i can do about that |
| 06:10.43 | Drundia | i'm not really sitting here and reading it all |
| 06:10.47 | Drundia | so well |
| 06:10.53 | AlexanderYoshi | Its fine |
| 06:10.55 | Drundia | those all locals still disturb me |
| 06:10.56 | AlexanderYoshi | I'm playing WoW atm |
| 06:10.57 | Iriel | ScytheBlade1: not the top one i'm sure |
| 06:11.05 | AlexanderYoshi | Drundia, can't you get the context of the combat log |
| 06:11.14 | AlexanderYoshi | and then edit the index in that context |
| 06:11.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel: well, that depends on data which I can't prove. :) All I can say is that the previous method of seeing if it IS a mob isn't correct (string.sub 6, 12) == 0 |
| 06:11.59 | Drundia | so what do i best hook or replace? |
| 06:12.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel: to that end, we don't have anything concrete to go on concerning NPC vs. player GUIDs, aside from flags passed from the combat events |
| 06:12.34 | Drundia | the best candidate appeared to be CombatLog_OnEvent, but local copy is used everywhere in the end |
| 06:12.39 | Drundia | changing global does nothing |
| 06:12.43 | AlexanderYoshi | Can you get the context |
| 06:12.56 | Tem | man wth |
| 06:12.57 | AlexanderYoshi | and from that replace the reference in the $_G table? |
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| 06:13.07 | Tem | has anyone done Warp Splinter lately? |
| 06:13.07 | ScytheBlade1 | $_G |
| 06:13.08 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 06:13.19 | Tem | he keeps resetting on us for no apparent reason |
| 06:13.57 | Xinhuan | no alex |
| 06:13.58 | Drundia | i want to change the look of messages mostly without writing like entire thing myself |
| 06:14.05 | Xinhuan | because the local copy remains referenced to the old one |
| 06:14.07 | Drundia | so all the filtering ui is already there and stuff |
| 06:14.17 | Xinhuan | i thought i mentioned to remove the local keywords ;p |
| 06:14.37 | Drundia | i don't know if they are used a lot maybe put them in local table |
| 06:14.47 | Drundia | and then reference that table globally |
| 06:14.54 | Xinhuan | they are called a 10-20 times per second |
| 06:14.58 | Xinhuan | that would be slow |
| 06:15.03 | Xinhuan | in a raid setting |
| 06:15.03 | AlexanderYoshi | ok |
| 06:15.14 | Xinhuan | but yeah, putting it in a table would work |
| 06:15.21 | Xinhuan | most of the functions have a |
| 06:15.26 | Drundia | i understand that it would be slow |
| 06:15.27 | Xinhuan | local xyz() blah blah end |
| 06:15.32 | Drundia | but currently the globals are created |
| 06:15.33 | Xinhuan | and a _G.xyz = xyz |
| 06:15.37 | Xinhuan | just remove that part |
| 06:15.39 | Drundia | then copied locally |
| 06:15.40 | Xinhuan | and make it global again |
| 06:15.42 | Drundia | and globals become useless |
| 06:15.49 | AlexanderYoshi | Can't you replace _G.CombatLog_OnEvent? |
| 06:15.55 | Drundia | i can |
| 06:15.58 | Drundia | but local copy is used |
| 06:16.03 | Xinhuan | you can alex, but the local variables still point to the old function |
| 06:16.19 | Xinhuan | replacing the _G copy doesn't replace the local variable |
| 06:16.23 | Drundia | it seems i need to copy half of functions |
| 06:16.30 | Drundia | or cope entire addon |
| 06:16.32 | Drundia | *copy |
| 06:16.33 | AlexanderYoshi | I see. |
| 06:16.35 | Xinhuan | if function xyz() points to function 0xF2482D |
| 06:16.43 | Xinhuan | and you replace _G.xyz with function 0xE29384 |
| 06:16.48 | AlexanderYoshi | Well, the combat log_on_event function is called every frame |
| 06:16.51 | Xinhuan | the local xyz variable still points to the old 0xF2482D |
| 06:16.56 | AlexanderYoshi | so it seems worth optimizing |
| 06:17.00 | AlexanderYoshi | ... I know |
| 06:17.03 | Drundia | it parses events |
| 06:17.07 | Drundia | it's long enough |
| 06:17.09 | AlexanderYoshi | What if I added a global "post hook" function |
| 06:17.18 | Drundia | i don't think lookup would take longer than funciton itself |
| 06:17.30 | Xinhuan | well in the interest of the addon coding community, i think making it global is a reasonable speed sacrifice |
| 06:17.51 | Xinhuan | a hook would just slow things equally |
| 06:17.55 | Drundia | otherwise maybe some function which would allow modifying locals |
| 06:18.05 | widgertick | That would be a lua nightmare |
| 06:18.05 | AlexanderYoshi | *shrug* |
| 06:18.06 | Drundia | if modifying of upvalues is allowed at all |
| 06:18.13 | AlexanderYoshi | Widge, what do you recommend? |
| 06:18.13 | Xinhuan | modifying of upvalues is allowed |
| 06:18.26 | AlexanderYoshi | You're a better judge of optimization than I |
| 06:18.30 | widgertick | Oh |
| 06:18.37 | widgertick | I was thinking of that from the wrong perspective. |
| 06:18.40 | Drundia | i would recommend making entire addon insecure |
| 06:18.53 | ScytheBlade1 | gags |
| 06:19.01 | widgertick | A function for allowing the modification of the upvalues in the addon is probably best |
| 06:19.06 | Drundia | allowing to replace the whole file and not have wow exit with error messages |
| 06:19.27 | Xinhuan | you can already do that Drundia |
| 06:19.37 | Xinhuan | just replace the uiparent load function |
| 06:20.01 | Drundia | hmmm |
| 06:20.11 | Xinhuan | that is how the original testing is done |
| 06:20.13 | AlexanderYoshi | That's a lot of work if you only wanted to tweak one part of the uber function |
| 06:20.13 | Drundia | wow exits with window-style messagebox |
| 06:20.19 | Drundia | "interface files are corrupt" |
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| 06:20.54 | Xinhuan | Drundia, you can write your own addon + stub so that it overrides the uiparent load function that loads the combat log |
| 06:21.01 | Xinhuan | so it prevents blizzard's lod one from loading |
| 06:21.03 | Xinhuan | and loads yours |
| 06:21.08 | Drundia | hmm |
| 06:21.10 | Drundia | that sounds good |
| 06:21.14 | Xinhuan | its the same way superinspect works |
| 06:21.19 | Xinhuan | to replace the default ui's InspectUI |
| 06:21.20 | AlexanderYoshi | Ok, well if everyone's happy |
| 06:21.31 | AlexanderYoshi | We can do nothing and I'll just go home. |
| 06:21.55 | Drundia | though i'll try one more evil attempt |
| 06:22.01 | Drundia | .... |
| 06:22.14 | Cairenn | given the insane hours you've no doubt been putting in lately AlexanderYoshi, I don't think anyone would blame you for, like, going home |
| 06:22.18 | widgertick | AlexanderYoshi: Add the stuff to modify the upvalues |
| 06:22.27 | widgertick | IMHO |
| 06:22.30 | widgertick | And go home =P |
| 06:22.32 | Drundia | ok we'll see how it works now.... |
| 06:22.34 | Xinhuan | hehe |
| 06:22.56 | AlexanderYoshi | What would it take to allow upvalue modification? |
| 06:23.04 | AlexanderYoshi | Is that a global system change or just a tweak function? |
| 06:23.09 | Xinhuan | a short function alex |
| 06:23.10 | widgertick | It's one function to add |
| 06:23.13 | widgertick | Very short. |
| 06:23.15 | Drundia | actually alex |
| 06:23.16 | AlexanderYoshi | ok |
| 06:23.21 | Drundia | split it somehow |
| 06:23.25 | AlexanderYoshi | Write it for me, Xin! :) |
| 06:23.30 | Xinhuan | function(a, b, c, d) var = a; var = b; var = c; end |
| 06:23.31 | AlexanderYoshi | I'm lazy |
| 06:23.39 | AlexanderYoshi | oic |
| 06:23.39 | Xinhuan | where var is the local values to change |
| 06:23.44 | AlexanderYoshi | wow that is easy |
| 06:23.49 | Xinhuan | and a, b, c etc are the new values |
| 06:23.51 | Drundia | omg it seems it can work |
| 06:23.54 | Xinhuan | or new functions in this case |
| 06:23.57 | Nechckn | see.. ask and ye shall receive =) |
| 06:23.58 | Drundia | i can make entire blizzard-signed addon insecure |
| 06:24.07 | AlexanderYoshi | It was born insecure and cry |
| 06:24.09 | AlexanderYoshi | crying |
| 06:24.12 | Drundia | if i put a different toc file too |
| 06:24.16 | Xinhuan | var here is just an upvalue local in the file |
| 06:24.21 | AlexanderYoshi | then we put it in a thick iron wall |
| 06:24.26 | AlexanderYoshi | and now she wants to date other addons |
| 06:24.27 | Legorol | Drundia: not quite as impressive as if you could make a non-blizzard addon secure ;-) |
| 06:24.34 | AlexanderYoshi | I'm such a poor feature-father. |
| 06:24.54 | Xinhuan | its ok, i like the conbat log settings editing frame ;p |
| 06:25.03 | widgertick | You'll just drive them away from home ealier like that =P |
| 06:25.11 | AlexanderYoshi | cries. |
| 06:25.12 | widgertick | Earlier, rather |
| 06:25.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, I'm gonna try and sleep now. |
| 06:25.16 | AlexanderYoshi | Alright, thanks for the info guys |
| 06:25.26 | AlexanderYoshi | I'll see if we can ninja something quick into the log. |
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| 06:25.41 | ScytheBlade1 | MentalPower: I'm going to post a bunch of info on the forums tomorrow, once I play with GUIDs across realms and battlegrounds. |
| 06:25.42 | Drundia | oh crap |
| 06:25.48 | Drundia | evil thing just renamed dir |
| 06:25.49 | MentalPower | ScytheBlade1: thanks |
| 06:25.52 | MentalPower | that will help |
| 06:25.58 | Drundia | now it'll probably crash with error message |
| 06:26.17 | AlexanderYoshi | No promises tho |
| 06:26.26 | AlexanderYoshi | We might not have a patch for a long time |
| 06:26.51 | ScytheBlade1 | MentalPower: yeah, I need a bit more info before I can post my suspicions, but given 30 minutes in the morning and I should have enough. I'll ping you when I post it. |
| 06:27.04 | Xinhuan | alex just drop me an update when ptr is up again |
| 06:27.21 | Drundia | well if it needs speed and ability to modify it |
| 06:27.29 | MentalPower | ScytheBlade1: thanks, I'm working on something that relies on the ==0 assumption, so I'd like as much info as possible |
| 06:27.34 | Drundia | apparently unsigning is best way to go |
| 06:28.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, at a minimum, I've disproved the the == 0 assumption, and now I've seen a player pet that starts with 0xF14, another that starts with 0xF13, and NPCs that are 0xF13. :) |
| 06:28.43 | ScytheBlade1 | More research is needed. With that, off to the land of lortab, beds, and not sleeping! |
| 06:29.13 | ScytheBlade1 | disconnects screen |
| 06:29.22 | Cairenn | night ScytheBlade1 |
| 06:29.23 | Xinhuan | stabs ScytheBlade1 with a pillow |
| 06:30.15 | Drundia | how nice "-- You can override this if you want a Combat Log replacement" |
| 06:30.58 | AlexanderYoshi | gasp |
| 06:31.01 | AlexanderYoshi | COMMENTS???!?! |
| 06:31.05 | AlexanderYoshi | THEY MUST BE PURIFIED! |
| 06:31.10 | MentalPower | lol |
| 06:31.36 | Drundia | haha |
| 06:31.38 | Xinhuan | you know alex, that big commented chunk at the bottom of combatlogui, is repeated twice and not removed ;p |
| 06:31.43 | AlexanderYoshi | oh lawl |
| 06:31.48 | Drundia | btw |
| 06:31.53 | kd3 | ponders grepping across the UI for common curses |
| 06:31.56 | Drundia | clearing messages after combat log retention time |
| 06:32.00 | AlexanderYoshi | there's nothing like that |
| 06:32.00 | Drundia | is it slouken's part? |
| 06:32.12 | AlexanderYoshi | It's not my job to assign blame |
| 06:32.20 | Drundia | because apparently he didn't do that |
| 06:32.22 | AlexanderYoshi | Any bug is our bug. |
| 06:32.30 | AlexanderYoshi | Actually, it's probably working |
| 06:32.33 | AlexanderYoshi | There's 2 rules |
| 06:32.35 | Drundia | not quite |
| 06:32.36 | AlexanderYoshi | 1. Retention time |
| 06:32.42 | Drundia | i had several hours long messages |
| 06:32.46 | Drundia | 27k stored |
| 06:32.46 | AlexanderYoshi | 2. Maximum number of entries generated within retention time |
| 06:32.57 | Drundia | sometimes i see them removed |
| 06:33.04 | NightHawkTheSane | so is it wrong of me to -not- heal people i dont like in a bt raid? >.> |
| 06:33.06 | Drundia | but most of the time not |
| 06:33.10 | AlexanderYoshi | if you generate 27k of messages within the retention time |
| 06:33.19 | Drundia | messages older than 5 minutes stay |
| 06:33.31 | Drundia | with standard retention time of 5 minutes |
| 06:33.35 | Drundia | 27k messages |
| 06:33.35 | Xinhuan | i think you can blame line 3399 on me ;p |
| 06:33.54 | kd3 | I haven't checked... but did the bug of combat log reports showing up from the other side of the continent get fixed? e.g. I'm in blade's edge and getting fresh entries from quel'danas |
| 06:33.55 | Tem | wow that was insane |
| 06:34.02 | Tem | we finally killed Warpsplinter |
| 06:34.02 | AlexanderYoshi | it will keep 27k worth of messages |
| 06:34.07 | AlexanderYoshi | even if it goes past the retention time |
| 06:34.08 | Tem | took 15 minutes of combat |
| 06:34.16 | Drundia | i don't really mean frame |
| 06:34.19 | Drundia | i mean those apis |
| 06:34.24 | Xinhuan | that's a lot of memory for 27k combat events |
| 06:34.34 | Drundia | CombatLogSetCurrentEntry(1) |
| 06:34.37 | Xinhuan | a megabyte or so hehe |
| 06:34.38 | Drundia | and it points to message |
| 06:34.44 | Drundia | that happened around login |
| 06:34.54 | Drundia | way longer than 5 minutes |
| 06:35.02 | AlexanderYoshi | hmm |
| 06:35.21 | Drundia | luckily Blizzard_CombatLog_Refilter is modifyable |
| 06:35.22 | AlexanderYoshi | Isn't wow like 1gig of memory |
| 06:35.27 | Drundia | so i placed some filter there |
| 06:35.36 | Drundia | so it ignores old messages |
| 06:35.49 | Drundia | older than 5 minutes that is |
| 06:36.17 | Drundia | then Blizzard_CombatLog_QuickButtonFrame_OnEvent is hookable too |
| 06:36.33 | Drundia | i've added this:UnregisterEvent("PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD"); so it doesn't update when zoning |
| 06:37.05 | Xinhuan | i'm pretty serious, i think i added line 3399's refilter command there, the whole event needs to be changed from PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD to VARIABLES_LOADED |
| 06:37.20 | Xinhuan | so it only happens once |
| 06:37.23 | Xinhuan | and not every zone |
| 06:37.29 | Drundia | it just needs to run once :) |
| 06:37.37 | Drundia | variables_loaded sounds good |
| 06:37.53 | AlexanderYoshi | Yeah I know |
| 06:37.57 | Drundia | and one more thing |
| 06:38.01 | Drundia | event-based coloring! |
| 06:38.11 | AlexanderYoshi | I think it got written without realizing that VARIABLES_LOADED existed |
| 06:38.12 | Drundia | not school, not relation, but event type |
| 06:38.32 | Drundia | so for example healing wave can have different colors than lightning bolt |
| 06:38.41 | Xinhuan | i didn't realize the issue when i added it since my computer is fast enough to refilter thousands of events within like 10-15 seconds |
| 06:38.46 | Drundia | now they are both pretty much all green |
| 06:38.55 | Drundia | thousands |
| 06:38.55 | AlexanderYoshi | Xin |
| 06:38.59 | Drundia | with limit of 5 per frame |
| 06:39.09 | AlexanderYoshi | I'm pretty sure the issue occurred after you reviewed the code |
| 06:39.17 | AlexanderYoshi | lol |
| 06:39.22 | Drundia | 27k events |
| 06:39.23 | Xinhuan | is it? i'll look back at the log hmm |
| 06:39.24 | Drundia | at 5 per frame |
| 06:39.27 | Drundia | say 60 fps |
| 06:39.29 | Drundia | 1.5 min! |
| 06:39.52 | Xinhuan | oh |
| 06:39.55 | Xinhuan | you're right alex |
| 06:40.00 | kd3 | oh, random request, though I'm sure it's been asked by this point... can we get party/raid filters too? "friendly" isn't granular enough. |
| 06:40.05 | Xinhuan | the original code i sent you has it in VARIABLES_LOADED |
| 06:40.13 | Xinhuan | why was that event removed? |
| 06:40.29 | Xinhuan | function Blizzard_CombatLog_QuickButtonFrame_OnEvent(event) |
| 06:40.38 | AlexanderYoshi | it was a mistake |
| 06:40.47 | AlexanderYoshi | kd3, the combat log supports it |
| 06:40.50 | Drundia | yes that one :p |
| 06:41.11 | Drundia | and timestamp format |
| 06:41.23 | Drundia | why "time>"? why not "[time]"? |
| 06:41.30 | AlexanderYoshi | why not time>? |
| 06:41.33 | AlexanderYoshi | You can change the format |
| 06:41.46 | AlexanderYoshi | TEXT_MODE_A_STRING_TIMESTAMP or somethign |
| 06:42.05 | Drundia | yes i'm sure there was something |
| 06:42.13 | Drundia | not sure what |
| 06:42.21 | Drundia | need to see again :) |
| 06:42.34 | Drundia | but i'm talking more from a random player's pov |
| 06:42.56 | Drundia | i never liked that "time>" made by some addons |
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| 06:43.43 | kd3 | heh, that's why I'm letting ct_core do timestamps... had to remember to turn the combatlog's stamps off. "[01:37:00] 01:37:00> foo" kinda defeats the purpose. >.>; |
| 06:43.56 | Drundia | the problem is refiltering |
| 06:44.00 | Drundia | that way |
| 06:44.24 | Drundia | when refiltering it puts timestamps from combat log, not current ones |
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| 06:55.52 | Drundia | ok it seems hooking loading function got me to a small problem.... filters don't have entries for combat..... |
| 06:56.13 | Drundia | what do i hook now? :\ |
| 06:56.35 | AlexanderYoshi | huh? |
| 06:56.46 | Drundia | well you know when you press filters|settings |
| 06:56.54 | Drundia | it has 3 menus there |
| 06:56.59 | Drundia | for combat log there should be 4th |
| 06:57.19 | Drundia | but if i modify function that loads addon and load a slightly modified version instead |
| 06:57.22 | AlexanderYoshi | yep |
| 06:57.23 | Drundia | they don't show |
| 06:57.34 | AlexanderYoshi | ah |
| 06:57.35 | Drundia | any chance that you know where is that check? |
| 06:57.45 | AlexanderYoshi | hmm, wow, that's part of the system I didn't work on |
| 06:57.49 | AlexanderYoshi | sorry :( |
| 06:58.20 | Drundia | was it IsAddOnLoaded() to check if addon is loaded? |
| 06:58.52 | Drundia | weee fond it! |
| 06:58.57 | Drundia | found |
| 07:03.41 | Keias | Anyone know if theres like a list of sunwell progression by server? |
| 07:05.41 | Keias | Shattered Sun Offensive, I mean |
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| 07:14.06 | Xinhuan | Drundia, remember if you load a combat log addon that replaces the blizzard one |
| 07:14.17 | Xinhuan | the addon name changes, so the settings file for it also changes |
| 07:14.27 | Xinhuan | from Blizzard_CombatLogUI.lua to something else |
| 07:14.33 | Xinhuan | in your wtf folder |
| 07:15.24 | Drundia | there isn't that many settings anyway |
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| 07:26.45 | Shirik | batrick: piiiiiiing |
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| 08:01.12 | batrick | Shirik: pong |
| 08:01.19 | Shirik | in WSG |
| 08:01.25 | Shirik | have a few questions, give me a sec |
| 08:01.25 | batrick | grats |
| 08:02.49 | Shirik | also |
| 08:02.55 | Shirik | I found timespec/timeval in the windows API |
| 08:03.00 | Shirik | guess what header file they're defined in? |
| 08:03.45 | Shirik | winsock2.h |
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| 08:05.40 | batrick | i'm not sure what to say to that |
| 08:08.08 | Shirik | it's hilarious imo |
| 08:08.13 | Shirik | I'm not going to include that though |
| 08:08.23 | Shirik | I just defined the structures myself |
| 08:09.31 | Shirik | ok, question one |
| 08:09.43 | Shirik | you have pthread_cleanup_push/pop |
| 08:09.54 | Shirik | Is there ever more than one function for cleanup? |
| 08:11.48 | Shirik | batr! |
| 08:11.50 | Shirik | batrick |
| 08:11.58 | batrick | um |
| 08:12.04 | batrick | what do you mean more than one function for cleanup |
| 08:12.24 | Shirik | like will you ever have more than one function pushed |
| 08:12.30 | batrick | yes |
| 08:12.32 | Shirik | like there might be two functions to call at exit |
| 08:12.38 | Shirik | can you show me where? |
| 08:12.56 | batrick | the place where it's pushed in lthread_main and in kernel_fetch |
| 08:13.11 | batrick | that would be two different handlers |
| 08:13.28 | batrick | those are also the only handlers I'm using |
| 08:13.33 | Shirik | uh no |
| 08:13.41 | Shirik | I mean at the same instant |
| 08:13.48 | Shirik | If the thread exits, there will be two functions to call |
| 08:13.53 | batrick | yes |
| 08:13.56 | batrick | I said so |
| 08:14.05 | Shirik | in lthread_main and kernel_fetch? |
| 08:14.23 | batrick | at the start of lthread_main a handler is pushed, if that thread then blocks in kernel_fetch then it will have two handlers on its stack |
| 08:15.25 | Shirik | hm, I don't see a kernel_fetch |
| 08:15.27 | Shirik | time to update |
| 08:16.29 | batrick | it's been there for a long time... |
| 08:16.41 | batrick | don't see why you would need to update |
| 08:17.01 | Shirik | nope, nothing new |
| 08:17.03 | Shirik | where is this.. |
| 08:17.21 | batrick | LUA_KAPI int kernel_fetch(lua_State *L, lua_Thread *from, int block, struct timespec * timeout, unsigned number) |
| 08:17.25 | batrick | ? |
| 08:18.17 | Shirik | yes but I don't see it being called from lthread_main |
| 08:18.46 | batrick | it would be called inside lua_pcall(), by the Lua code... |
| 08:19.19 | Shirik | hm, ok |
| 08:19.32 | Shirik | this is going to be fun |
| 08:20.54 | Shirik | those should only be called when KLUA_CANCEL_THREAD() is called right? |
| 08:21.16 | Shirik | there is no instance where a main thread exits via return, etc., and those would need to be called? |
| 08:21.17 | batrick | when it's cancelled, or when it calls pthread_cleanup_pop() |
| 08:21.28 | Shirik | oh when that's called, it calls the function? |
| 08:21.33 | Shirik | didn't know that |
| 08:21.33 | batrick | yes |
| 08:21.38 | Shirik | ok |
| 08:21.40 | batrick | if You pass a value of 1 |
| 08:21.44 | Shirik | I'll probably just write my own handler for this |
| 08:21.51 | Shirik | I can't find the right windows apis |
| 08:22.19 | Shirik | there's a way to do this when the process is exiting, but as far as I can tell threads don't have that capability |
| 08:26.12 | batrick | you may not need handlers |
| 08:26.48 | batrick | You'll probably want to do something completely different because windows doesn't offer any protections when a thread terminates |
| 08:27.53 | Shirik | Well, windows doesn't offer protections, but it does help you out |
| 08:28.18 | Shirik | for example, if it's killing a thread that owns a mutex, anyone pending on taking that mutex will get a special return value returned when it acquires the mutex |
| 08:28.45 | batrick | well see that's really stupid for an important reason |
| 08:29.21 | batrick | mutexes are there to ensure data consistency, if yoiu kill the thread while it's manipulating the data state, no other thread can hope to fix it |
| 08:29.47 | batrick | you basically render the data and the mutex useless |
| 08:29.59 | batrick | which is why cleanup handlers exist in posix |
| 08:30.00 | Shirik | that's whythe special return value exists :P |
| 08:30.16 | batrick | yes, but even with the special return value, all they know is the data is fucked |
| 08:30.20 | batrick | and they can't fix it |
| 08:30.23 | Shirik | I think there's a way to prevent thread termination |
| 08:30.32 | Shirik | I know VxWorks has that |
| 08:30.37 | batrick | but if there was a cleanup handler, then the thread terminated could have cleaned up while dying |
| 08:31.55 | batrick | in fact you need to make sure the thread isn't terminated while in our library basically |
| 08:31.59 | Shirik | aha, here it is |
| 08:32.02 | Shirik | interlocked functions |
| 08:32.08 | batrick | but that it CAN terminate while blocking in fetch() |
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| 08:34.39 | Shirik | actually I take that back |
| 08:34.45 | Shirik | a thread can't terminate while it owns a critical section |
| 08:34.52 | Shirik | and that's what we're using in windows, not mutexes |
| 08:34.55 | Shirik | hm, that may have to be fixed |
| 08:35.08 | batrick | If the target thread owns a critical section, the critical section will not be released. |
| 08:35.12 | batrick | copy pasted from |
| 08:35.17 | batrick | http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms686717(VS.85).aspx |
| 08:35.30 | Shirik | msdn is strange |
| 08:36.04 | batrick | If the target thread is allocating memory from the heap, the heap lock will not be released. |
| 08:36.09 | batrick | that sounds really fucking bad |
| 08:36.20 | Shirik | lol |
| 08:36.34 | Shirik | that's why you don't do this in windows :P |
| 08:36.43 | Shirik | you use a messaging system, preferably WM_QUIT |
| 08:37.25 | Shirik | and if you need to be sure you don't continue until the thread is finished, you use WaitForSingleObject/WaitForMultipleObjects to block until that thread has truly exited |
| 08:37.32 | batrick | what I would do if I were you, is add two ints to the lua_Thread struct, one to say it should be cancelled, the other to say it can be cancelled |
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| 08:38.48 | Shirik | and then what? |
| 08:38.58 | Shirik | check it periodically? |
| 08:39.37 | batrick | if lthread_cancel you would (instead of what I do) set the "should be cancelled" bool to true, then try to lock the mutex and cancel it else return |
| 08:40.25 | batrick | if it fails then the thread is busy doing something, you would have the "can be cancelled bit" unset when the thread is entering any of our library functions |
| 08:40.34 | MentalPower | !c us blackhand tenebra |
| 08:40.35 | batrick | and set it when it blocks in kernel_fetch |
| 08:41.04 | batrick | (but when you set it, you should check if another threads set the cancel bool, if it did, then you should terminate) |
| 08:41.37 | batrick | that's the only solution I see currently, but maybe there is a better one with some odd microsoft function |
| 08:47.08 | batrick | anyway, got any other pressing questions shirik? |
| 08:47.16 | Shirik | not really |
| 08:47.23 | batrick | k night |
| 08:47.26 | Shirik | night |
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| 09:13.21 | Shirik | lol at this guild application we received |
| 09:13.27 | Shirik | one of the questions is "how can we improve?" |
| 09:13.34 | Shirik | How can we improve*: Huh kill illiden maby sum mother sharaz heer in ther |
| 09:13.52 | Cairenn | *blink* |
| 09:14.00 | Shirik | I find this interesting: Previous Raiding Experience: 4/5 hyjal 4/9 BT |
| 09:14.07 | Shirik | Because that is EXACTLY what it says we are at on our front page |
| 09:14.59 | Shirik | what confuses me is the rest of the app is well written |
| 09:14.59 | Shirik | well at least it's readable |
| 09:15.06 | Shirik | Why are you applying to us? my RL friend deuce is in the guild, I have seen most of the end game and would like to be in a guild which has done the same. Looking to gear up to the point i can aid in progression |
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| 09:24.26 | art3mis | shirik the correct answer to that question on ANY app is "Because baby jesus told me to" |
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| 09:51.09 | Shirik | lua> local log = math.log10; return log(32768+1)/log(2.0) |
| 09:51.09 | lua_bot | Shirik: 15.000044026887 |
| 09:51.41 | Shirik | hmmm, my math is off :( |
| 09:52.10 | Shirik | Oh wait it's not off! |
| 09:52.21 | Shirik | it's because it's an unsigned value |
| 09:52.22 | Shirik | whee |
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| 09:54.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | slaps Shirik around a bit with a moon, no wait, a Space Station |
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| 11:19.00 | Cairenn | slaps a space station around a bit with Mr_Rabies2 |
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| 11:20.04 | Cairenn | hugs JoshBorke |
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| 11:20.39 | Cairenn | hugs Kirkburn |
| 11:21.15 | JoshBorke | hugs Cairenn |
| 11:21.16 | JoshBorke | guten morgen |
| 11:21.22 | Kirkburn | waves |
| 11:21.42 | Cairenn | how are you guys? |
| 11:22.48 | Kirkburn | Glad to have slept after firefighting wowwiki most of yesterday :P |
| 11:23.08 | JoshBorke | i'm great |
| 11:23.10 | Kirkburn | Yay patch days :P |
| 11:23.14 | Cairenn | yeah, I know, you guys were struggling under the load yesterday too |
| 11:23.29 | Cairenn | notice I didn't bug you about CF? ;) |
| 11:23.36 | Kirkburn | :O |
| 11:23.40 | Cairenn | JoshBorke: good to here :) |
| 11:23.43 | Kirkburn | But you are going to now? ;) |
| 11:23.46 | Cairenn | nope |
| 11:23.54 | Cairenn | hear* |
| 11:24.05 | Cairenn | *hasn't* slept yet, in case you hadn't guessed |
| 11:24.07 | Kirkburn | Well, I could contest you've done it in a roundabout way :P |
| 11:24.10 | Kirkburn | :( |
| 11:24.34 | Cairenn | sorry, wasn't supposed to come across that way, was just sympathizing with you |
| 11:24.42 | Kirkburn | I'm teasing :P |
| 11:24.46 | Cairenn | hokay |
| 11:25.03 | Kirkburn | But I hope you get some sleep soon |
| 11:25.26 | Cairenn | just waiting for someone else to be up and about again, to keep an eye out for mods in the queue |
| 11:25.33 | Cairenn | then I'll snag a few hours |
| 11:25.46 | Kirkburn | Aah |
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| 11:26.58 | Cairenn | hugs foxlit |
| 11:27.18 | foxlit | hugs Cairenn |
| 11:27.20 | foxlit | It can has hug time now? |
| 11:27.21 | Cairenn | :) |
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| 11:27.32 | Cairenn | hugs r gud! |
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| 11:28.38 | Cairenn | hugs cncfanatics |
| 11:33.02 | [dRaCo] | I want my server back :/ |
| 11:33.25 | Cairenn | hugs [dRaCo] |
| 11:33.41 | [dRaCo] | :) |
| 11:33.54 | [dRaCo] | hugs Cairenn. |
| 11:34.00 | Cairenn | purrs |
| 11:34.03 | Cairenn | loves hugs |
| 11:34.20 | [dRaCo] | well, I guess it's time to go get some food then |
| 11:34.30 | [dRaCo] | maybe that's what blizz is trying to tell me |
| 11:34.42 | Cairenn | my hugs make people hungry? o.O |
| 11:38.01 | nevcairiel | server downtime make people hungry |
| 11:38.10 | Shirik | om nom nom nom |
| 11:38.17 | Shirik | need food |
| 11:38.22 | Shirik | nibbles on CairennÂ’s cookies |
| 11:38.46 | nevcairiel | cookies is the new word, eh? |
| 11:38.51 | Shirik | .... |
| 11:38.55 | Shirik | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15483 |
| 11:39.10 | Cairenn | lol |
| 11:39.14 | Cairenn | hugs nevcairiel |
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| 11:39.58 | Shirik | Yay! I have more than 2 dkp! |
| 11:40.16 | Shirik | though the team seems convinced I will go negative very shortly >< :( |
| 11:40.43 | Wobin | http://iconzicons.livejournal.com/164358.html |
| 11:41.54 | Shirik | confused |
| 11:42.18 | Wobin | You don't remember those lines from the movie? |
| 11:42.33 | Cairenn | giggles |
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| 11:45.34 | Kirkburn | Talking of movie lines, I couldn't talk to anyone here about going to Austin, without them asking me "Austin, Massachusetts?" |
| 11:46.28 | Kirkburn | (Road Trip, philistines) |
| 11:48.17 | Wobin | Before he became "The Chad" |
| 11:51.10 | Kirkburn | Wobin, exactly |
| 11:51.21 | JoshBorke | did they fix the SW fountain? |
| 11:51.29 | Kirkburn | Fix how? |
| 11:51.37 | JoshBorke | i can't seem to jump up onto it |
| 11:52.01 | Kirkburn | Hmm, sounds like that's probably part of their wallclimbing changes |
| 11:52.06 | JoshBorke | whew, i got up |
| 11:52.29 | JoshBorke | i can't get on top of the guy though |
| 11:52.41 | JoshBorke | they made wall climbing changes? |
| 11:52.48 | Kirkburn | Yup |
| 11:53.05 | Kirkburn | Apparently it's become much harder |
| 11:53.14 | JoshBorke | good |
| 11:53.16 | JoshBorke | wall hacks suck |
| 11:53.27 | Shirik | actually most wall hacks are rather well written |
| 11:53.36 | JoshBorke | ... |
| 11:53.37 | Cairenn | liked getting up to the airport above IF |
| 11:53.42 | Shirik | but the people that use them need to be shot |
| 11:53.43 | Shirik | in the face |
| 11:53.47 | JoshBorke | Cairenn: me too! |
| 11:53.52 | JoshBorke | they should really just open that up |
| 11:53.54 | Cairenn | and the village above men harbour |
| 11:54.17 | Cairenn | with the best damn road sign in the game |
| 11:54.22 | Cairenn | and the never ending pit of doom |
| 11:55.34 | [dRaCo] | noodles with bacon and coffee... what else does a man need? |
| 11:55.53 | JoshBorke | hm, best road sign? nevere nding pit of doom? |
| 11:56.33 | Cairenn | little village thingy above menethil harbour |
| 11:56.44 | Cairenn | if you knew the way, you could get down to it from the airport |
| 11:56.51 | Cairenn | only way to get to it |
| 11:56.57 | JoshBorke | i must have missed the road sign |
| 11:57.06 | JoshBorke | the never ending pit of doom was at the end of the tunnel entrance? |
| 11:57.06 | Cairenn | this way, that way, the other way |
| 11:57.10 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 11:57.20 | JoshBorke | yea, that thing was AWESOME |
| 11:57.28 | Cairenn | that same area |
| 11:57.29 | JoshBorke | felt like i was staring off in to infinite |
| 11:57.31 | JoshBorke | and beyond! |
| 11:57.37 | Cairenn | you never hovered over the road sign? |
| 11:57.43 | Cairenn | I have SSs of it |
| 11:57.45 | JoshBorke | nuh uh |
| 11:57.56 | Cairenn | it really did have "this way" "that way" "the other way" on it |
| 11:58.06 | Cairenn | was hilarious |
| 11:58.09 | JoshBorke | yea |
| 11:58.11 | JoshBorke | i wish i had noticed it |
| 11:59.35 | Cairenn | that was the only "wall hack" I ever played with, cause it was just too cool |
| 11:59.55 | Cairenn | but not something likely to get you banned from the game for |
| 12:01.01 | JoshBorke | they should just put mobs that do 50k damage on each attack places where they don't want people to go |
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| 12:12.22 | Wobin | rofl |
| 12:12.23 | Wobin | bearlock |
| 12:12.50 | Cairenn | sleeps for a few hours |
| 12:13.03 | Wobin | night Cair |
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| 12:22.40 | zenzelezz | I wonder how many guilds are currently 3/3 in Sunwell |
| 12:23.15 | [dRaCo] | none on most eu servers, that's for sure. |
| 12:23.58 | zenzelezz | Inner Sanctum on Silvermoon are, at least |
| 12:25.47 | [dRaCo] | my server is still borked to infinity and beyond |
| 12:25.52 | [dRaCo] | no raiding possible :/ |
| 12:26.21 | zenzelezz | doh :( |
| 12:26.44 | zenzelezz | "• Reliquary of Souls is bugged and isn't casting Deaden nor shielding in Phase 2." <-- this made the encounter... interesting |
| 12:27.13 | zenzelezz | it finally did use the Rune Shield one single time last night, as we were wiping and everyone was out of mana |
| 12:28.32 | [dRaCo] | well, with no mana at all you wouldnt have survived anyway, would you? |
| 12:28.44 | zenzelezz | no :) |
| 12:28.51 | zenzelezz | was just a remark |
| 12:29.00 | zenzelezz | also, the gem drop rate in BT seemed insanely high last night, think we got seven or eight crimson spinels from start to RoS |
| 12:29.09 | zenzelezz | a couple of others too |
| 12:29.31 | [dRaCo] | woot, that's nice |
| 12:30.15 | [dRaCo] | I could use some more... especially when the new badges vendor finally arrives. got the feeling that I'm gonna buy one or two things there. |
| 12:31.02 | Wobin | pft wallclimbing hax? |
| 12:31.11 | Wobin | I used to wall climb the building next to the SW bank |
| 12:31.19 | Wobin | I could get up past two storeys =P |
| 12:33.36 | zenzelezz | don't do it Wobin, you have so much to live for! |
| 12:35.09 | Wobin | That's a shame |
| 12:35.13 | Wobin | I can't do it anymore =( |
| 12:35.24 | Wobin | bah, it was only my bankalt |
| 12:35.40 | art3mis | zen no he does |
| 12:35.52 | art3mis | heh they fixed a LOT of the graphic collisions |
| 12:36.27 | art3mis | it's still fun to do though, went to the winterspring troll village and got up to the flat spot above the epl troll village ;P |
| 12:38.41 | zenzelezz | art3mis: who does what? |
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| 12:41.56 | art3mis | zenzelezz: ehh fergot the "nt" wobin doesnt have so much to live for ;) |
| 12:42.05 | zenzelezz | aha :) |
| 12:42.17 | art3mis | you play on silvermoon? |
| 12:42.25 | zenzelezz | EU Silvermoon, yes |
| 12:42.30 | art3mis | ahh |
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| 12:42.51 | Josh|| | hey |
| 12:43.09 | zenzelezz | started out on US Arthas, because the friends that pulled me into the game played there. Then they abandoned the game |
| 12:43.31 | zenzelezz | heya Josh|| |
| 12:43.36 | Josh|| | Sup? |
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| 12:49.27 | art3mis | any word on s2 gear hitting the vendors? |
| 12:49.34 | Dezzimal | when s4 comes out |
| 12:49.58 | art3mis | yeah i was looking for something a bit definitive |
| 12:50.13 | Dezzimal | thats as accurate as you'll get |
| 12:51.18 | GrimNotepad | according to what i read, they say more peeps need Sunwell familiarity (paraphrase) my guess would be 1-2 months |
| 12:51.36 | art3mis | Dezzimal:gee thanks capt. obvious, the question was aimed towards new information, not the same retarded "when it does" answers |
| 12:51.39 | art3mis | like grim there |
| 12:51.45 | art3mis | heh understood what i meant ;P |
| 12:52.22 | GrimNotepad | check for Season 4 results on WOW Insider, there is a post that says "when it does" from the WoW official forum guy |
| 12:52.23 | GrimNotepad | heh |
| 12:52.42 | Dezzimal | any dates you get are purely speculative |
| 12:52.49 | art3mis | forums and wowinsider make my eyes bleed |
| 12:52.54 | GrimNotepad | hehe |
| 12:52.56 | art3mis | speculation is fun though! |
| 12:53.04 | Dezzimal | trust me when theres a date for s4 I'd be one of the first to find out lol |
| 12:53.21 | art3mis | god i wish WHO would give me a beta key or something |
| 12:53.28 | art3mis | i need a new fun game |
| 12:53.32 | Dezzimal | world health organization? |
| 12:53.35 | art3mis | ye |
| 12:53.48 | art3mis | it's a mmorpg based on ending world hunger in africa |
| 12:54.03 | art3mis | if yuo get high enough level you get celebrity followers ;) |
| 12:54.04 | Dezzimal | can I feed etheopians with my penis? |
| 12:54.04 | GrimNotepad | :| |
| 12:54.13 | GrimNotepad | :|! |
| 12:54.39 | Dezzimal | protien |
| 12:55.17 | art3mis | hukd on fonix werkd fer me! |
| 12:56.00 | GrimNotepad | apparently |
| 12:56.00 | GrimNotepad | :P |
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| 13:01.26 | Wobin | ... |
| 13:01.34 | Wobin | what is this "development" tag in the realmlist now? |
| 13:02.17 | Wobin | Dezzimal: You reckon you can do that? I'd guess you might feed one. for a snack |
| 13:02.33 | Wobin | but once they've chewed it off, you got nothin =P |
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| 13:10.26 | Lopeppeppy | Happy Thursday everypeople! |
| 13:10.49 | zenzelezz | cheers excitedly at peppy |
| 13:11.00 | Shirik|AFK | murphyÂ’s law sucks |
| 13:11.18 | Shirik|AFK | the one day I need to be on time and my carÂ’s battery is dead |
| 13:11.37 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, sweetie. *hug* Murphy is a right royal bastard, you're right. |
| 13:14.08 | art3mis | O'Tooles commentary on Murphy's Law: Murphy was an optimist. |
| 13:14.41 | Lopeppeppy | My name is Plenty. Plenty O'Toole. |
| 13:15.27 | art3mis | keeps his mouth shut. |
| 13:15.39 | Nom- | Got a screenshot of me breaking 4000 AP on my ret pally tonight :D |
| 13:15.52 | Lopeppeppy | *drool* |
| 13:16.01 | art3mis | you should send that to athenelol ;P |
| 13:16.10 | art3mis | and tell him you're the new best paladin i the world! |
| 13:17.50 | Nom- | full raid buffs + double trinket + seal of the crusader |
| 13:17.55 | Nom- | i cheat a bit with SotC but still XD |
| 13:18.17 | Lopeppeppy | You should post it so that I can print it as a motivational poster for my ret pally. |
| 13:22.21 | Nom- | http://standen.id.au/pics/WoWScrnShot_032708_221314.jpg |
| 13:22.24 | Nom- | Just to prove i'm not lieing :D |
| 13:23.23 | deltron | Nom-: you have your BT neck on! |
| 13:23.31 | Dezzimal | gorehowl |
| 13:23.32 | Dezzimal | really? |
| 13:23.33 | Lopeppeppy | *kisskiss* Thanks. You're wonderful. |
| 13:23.45 | Nom- | omg i do too |
| 13:23.49 | Nom- | i could be doing moar dps! |
| 13:24.09 | Nom- | Yeah, i've been really unlucky on drops |
| 13:24.13 | Nom- | SSC Weapon never dropped |
| 13:24.19 | Nom- | Nothing has dropped, not even the ZA one |
| 13:24.40 | Dezzimal | man I went from plasma rat's hyper scythe (mech) to jinrokh lol |
| 13:24.53 | Dezzimal | my MS gear was still half greens when I got it too |
| 13:25.14 | Dezzimal | I'd go into AV and get so many hate tells |
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| 13:31.58 | Nom | grr got d/c |
| 13:31.59 | Nom- | grr got d/c |
| 13:32.04 | Nom | I need to sort that out |
| 13:32.12 | Nom | phone call = disconnect about 1/4 of the time |
| 13:32.47 | ralfWORK | that's lame |
| 13:33.01 | Lopeppeppy | If you get it sorted out, ping |Jelly|, he has the exact same issue. |
| 13:33.12 | Nom | I have a pretty good idea what it'll be |
| 13:33.15 | ralfWORK | you got DSL filters installed and crap? |
| 13:33.16 | Nom | It's usually a filtering problem |
| 13:33.21 | ralfWORK | yea |
| 13:33.31 | Nom | The filter i'm using has probably died |
| 13:33.39 | Nom | I'll flog another one from work |
| 13:33.44 | Nom | There's probably one lying around |
| 13:35.12 | Lopeppeppy | I had assumed the "filter" was a software setting, not having ever used DSL. Is this filter a physical piece of equipment then? |
| 13:35.23 | ralfWORK | yes |
| 13:35.30 | Nom | Ya 'tis |
| 13:35.36 | Nom | About the size of a matchbox |
| 13:35.39 | Lopeppeppy | Huh. I'll file that under "Peppy's Bad Assumptions". Neat to know. |
| 13:35.41 | zenzelezz | it's a small box that you place before any appliance |
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| 13:35.59 | ralfWORK | ya, they have wall mount ones too for those wall-mount phone jacks |
| 13:36.01 | zenzelezz | it'll basically split the different parts of the signal |
| 13:38.06 | Lopeppeppy | So that phone goes to phone and intrawebz don't keep getting fuxxored. That's cool. |
| 13:39.00 | art3mis | http://www.chronocide.net/index.php |
| 13:39.21 | p30n | so wzup |
| 13:46.34 | Wobin | damn you art3mis |
| 13:46.43 | Wobin | You've scarred me forever with CatVac |
| 13:47.54 | art3mis | laugh |
| 13:48.04 | art3mis | good name for that type of site though eh? |
| 13:48.33 | art3mis | the only thing better to be name applicable would be a java based irc client ;P |
| 13:52.01 | ralfWORK | so like |
| 13:52.08 | ralfWORK | anyone else notice that WWS is totally HOSED |
| 13:52.47 | Lopeppeppy | Of course it is, while they learn to handle new combat logs. Did you expect different? |
| 13:52.51 | sag_ich_nicht | also why are all chatframe settings reseting each relog? |
| 13:53.07 | zenzelezz | mine don't reset |
| 13:53.18 | ralfWORK | Lopeppeppy: idk. Omen and Recount seem kinda hosed too |
| 13:53.35 | ralfWORK | I thought by having them tested on PTR, that it might kinda Just Work, yea |
| 13:54.01 | zenzelezz | Omen had some issues, but by and large it worked well enough for us to do BT up to RoS last night |
| 13:54.27 | ralfWORK | it kept locking up for me |
| 13:55.21 | Lopeppeppy | Keep updating it, ralf... files.wowace.com. |
| 13:55.27 | ralfWORK | kk, will do |
| 13:55.39 | Lopeppeppy | There are always subtle differences from PTR to live, it's just... karma. Nothing is perfect in transition. |
| 13:55.41 | sag_ich_nicht | Omen works now |
| 13:55.42 | ralfWORK | and yea like... recount totally didn't work at all |
| 13:55.49 | ralfWORK | which made me a sad panda |
| 13:56.08 | Wobin | recount worked for me today |
| 13:56.12 | Lopeppeppy | Violation is similar, ralfWORK... you can replace for a while until recount is viable again |
| 13:56.22 | ralfWORK | Lopeppeppy: oh ya? |
| 13:56.44 | Nom | ugh |
| 13:56.50 | Nom | why did they make supremus bigger? |
| 13:57.10 | Nom | He's actually harder now that he's bigger |
| 13:57.16 | ralfWORK | Wobin: k. I'll try updating it again |
| 13:57.23 | ralfWORK | thankfully, DBM worked :P |
| 13:57.31 | zenzelezz | Nom: really? He went better for us than usually last night |
| 13:57.37 | Wobin | tbh, I think that's going to be the answer to all the "X addon didn't work" |
| 13:57.55 | ralfWORK | ya, could be |
| 13:58.24 | Nom | All teh melee are getting fly swatted on kite target changes |
| 13:58.29 | Nom | Because his hitbox is so huge |
| 13:58.56 | zenzelezz | we have a simple solution to that |
| 13:58.58 | Nom | We used to run in / run out |
| 13:58.59 | zenzelezz | just run away sooner |
| 13:59.14 | Nom | lol then we only get 1-2 seconds of dps per kite target |
| 13:59.18 | Nom | we already move away early |
| 13:59.27 | zenzelezz | I mean with his enrage timer you could do him with the melee only using ranged weapons and you'd still be ahead |
| 14:00.50 | ralfWORK | we do that on prince lawl |
| 14:02.00 | sag_ich_nicht | [14:57] <ralfWORK> thankfully, DBM worked :P <--i just force-removed DBM from our whole raid and i'm quite happy about it :P |
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| 14:03.35 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 14:03.41 | ralfWORK | maybe so |
| 14:03.47 | ralfWORK | I have some retards in the raid |
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| 14:04.57 | Lopeppeppy | sag_ich_nicht, did you replace it with Bigwigs, or tell them to l2p and do without? |
| 14:05.05 | sag_ich_nicht | Bigwigs :P |
| 14:05.10 | ralfWORK | oh |
| 14:05.17 | ralfWORK | I thought you were going the l2p route |
| 14:05.22 | sag_ich_nicht | nope :P |
| 14:05.26 | ralfWORK | so what do you like more about bigwigs? |
| 14:05.34 | ralfWORK | I've heard some ppl say they like it better |
| 14:05.56 | sag_ich_nicht | i can force them to update it with WAU :P (yes, that IS important) |
| 14:06.52 | sag_ich_nicht | also DBM hasn't worked for me on bosses in the past which was a PITA(and these bosses were supposed to work and no fixes for them came afterwards) |
| 14:07.16 | ralfWORK | like Akil'Zon? :P |
| 14:07.32 | Nom | I run both lol |
| 14:07.35 | sag_ich_nicht | dunno about him, had that problem with Kael |
| 14:07.53 | sag_ich_nicht | i also forced BigWigs_CommonAuras onto them as well as VisualHeal & 'reminded' everyone to install oRA2 (Omen is a given of course) |
| 14:08.29 | ralfWORK | yea, I need to get ppl on Visual Heal |
| 14:08.42 | sag_ich_nicht | heal syncing with VisualHeal makes everything so much easier to blame, no more "that heal was thru!" |
| 14:09.18 | p30n | Akil'Zon is broken on DBM and so is Lootreaver |
| 14:10.23 | sag_ich_nicht | orbs on lootreaver are broken for all bossmobs |
| 14:10.37 | sag_ich_nicht | and will stay that way until blizzard changes him again |
| 14:10.54 | p30n | right |
| 14:10.58 | p30n | yea its the targetting |
| 14:11.14 | p30n | not that its hard to kill him anyways but.. them newbs are having a hard time staying alive |
| 14:11.22 | p30n | but akil'zon and the electric storm timer |
| 14:11.30 | p30n | is any bossmods working on that ? |
| 14:12.44 | Roblibob | voidreaver can't be fixed because nothing shows if he casting orbs or not. |
| 14:13.04 | p30n | sure it does |
| 14:13.09 | p30n | just look with ur eyes |
| 14:13.12 | p30n | and u see them :p |
| 14:13.19 | Nom | owwww |
| 14:13.24 | Nom | Hateful Strike for 18k |
| 14:13.42 | p30n | someone should code a bossmod-bot that can recognize events happening on screen |
| 14:13.45 | p30n | =) |
| 14:14.03 | Nom | Tanks failed imo |
| 14:14.15 | Nom | I wasn't throwing out *that* much threat ... |
| 14:14.17 | sag_ich_nicht | can't read visual context of worldframe p30n |
| 14:14.23 | sag_ich_nicht | *content |
| 14:15.02 | p30n | someone should make a third party program then that scans the monitor output for "orbs" |
| 14:15.05 | p30n | lmfao |
| 14:15.27 | p30n | nah thats was just ridiculous |
| 14:15.27 | p30n | sry |
| 14:15.41 | Nom | lol that's a bug btw |
| 14:15.51 | Nom | that it doesn't spawn a combat event when it gets cast |
| 14:16.06 | zenzelezz | Nom: Hateful Strike? On Supremus? |
| 14:18.14 | Nom | Yep |
| 14:18.46 | zenzelezz | from my guild's experience, and according to the wiki, it's not threat based, just HP |
| 14:19.02 | Nom | Hateful strike: ~7k melee damage to the target with the highest current health inside melee range |
| 14:19.06 | Nom | 7k my ass |
| 14:19.12 | zenzelezz | 7k on tanks |
| 14:19.33 | zenzelezz | that's a problem with the wiki, it tends to forget to mention the person's armor level for such values |
| 14:19.40 | ralfWORK | yea, it can |
| 14:19.47 | Nom | Well i've got 10k armor in dps gear |
| 14:19.49 | ralfWORK | sometimes you at least get "on a decently geare tank" |
| 14:19.51 | Nom | and that hit for 17k |
| 14:20.12 | ralfWORK | but what the crap is "decently geared" |
| 14:20.31 | Nom | ok lets assume that means 20k armor |
| 14:21.07 | art3mis | <stealthy|lap> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=printArticleBasic&articleId=9070158 |
| 14:21.07 | art3mis | <stealthy|lap> As with multiple-core processors, this trend is already under way -- Intel, for instance, has announced that its Nehalem CPU microarchitecture, set to debut later this year, will feature an integrated memory controller, eliminating the need for a front-side bus. However, it will take a long time for this trend to reach CPUs used in notebook computers -- the 2015 time frame seems reasonable, the experts agreed. |
| 14:21.09 | art3mis | <stealthy|lap> Holy shit, AMD must have mastered time travel |
| 14:21.12 | art3mis | heh |
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| 14:23.03 | Nom | Nah the math just doesn't work out |
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| 14:23.17 | Nom | There's no way a 17k hit on 10k armor translates to 7k on a well geared tank |
| 14:23.29 | zenzelezz | I think people tend to think that abilities are fixed damage |
| 14:23.32 | zenzelezz | not a range |
| 14:23.36 | ralfWORK | Nom: I was just suggesting that, I have no clue |
| 14:23.43 | Nom | on a druid at the armor cap it would hit for that much |
| 14:24.09 | zenzelezz | I got the impression last night that Supremus liked to try again a couple of times if his HS didn't land on me, I'd get three quick dodge/parry/dodge |
| 14:25.58 | Roblibob | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=28308 |
| 14:26.03 | Roblibob | hateful strike spell |
| 14:27.05 | Nom | Yep, they've buffed it |
| 14:27.24 | Nom | even if i assume my armor rating is lower than it is |
| 14:27.35 | Nom | it couldn't possibly hit as hard as it did with those values |
| 14:27.56 | Lopeppeppy | I am so very wary of the phrase "couldn't possibly" .... |
| 14:29.43 | Nom | Based on the upper limit |
| 14:30.05 | Nom | With a 45% damage reduction, the upper limit is 15k |
| 14:30.16 | zenzelezz | maybe they gave him "ignores X armor" gear |
| 14:30.23 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 14:30.35 | Nom | I have closer to 48% |
| 14:30.46 | art3mis | http://www.chronocide.net/index.php?act=play&id=37 <-- Zelda |
| 14:30.54 | Nom | which makes it more like 14k max |
| 14:31.17 | ralfWORK | maybe I'm simple |
| 14:31.23 | ralfWORK | but it seems like it'd be easy to tell |
| 14:31.33 | ralfWORK | you have X armor and got hit for Y amount |
| 14:31.44 | ralfWORK | you know X armor provides a certain percentage of DR |
| 14:33.21 | ralfWORK | so... should be simple math |
| 14:33.48 | sag_ich_nicht | NOT, because of talents |
| 14:33.49 | sag_ich_nicht | lol! |
| 14:34.40 | Nom | ffs i wasn't even in melee range that time and i got swatted... not hateful this time tho... he's definately more of a pain in the arse |
| 14:34.53 | Nom | last week i was #3 dps and didn't even get hit once |
| 14:34.57 | Nom | this week, died every attempt |
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| 14:38.49 | Nom | definately harder for melee... all our melee dead again |
| 14:39.50 | Nom | Which is pretty ironic, since my guess is the change was to make it easier for melee |
| 14:45.11 | ralfWORK | what talents give you damage reduction? |
| 14:45.56 | sag_ich_nicht | i dunno, lol!# |
| 14:46.02 | ralfWORK | lol@u |
| 14:51.49 | Nom | warriors get 10% from def stance |
| 14:51.58 | ralfWORK | 10% DR? |
| 14:51.58 | Nom | paladins get 6% from imp righteous fury |
| 14:52.02 | ralfWORK | k |
| 14:52.18 | Nom | That's about it... druids just get 75% from armor |
| 14:52.19 | Nom | lol |
| 14:52.23 | ralfWORK | rofl |
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| 14:55.44 | sag_ich_nicht | Nom also spell dmg reduction talents |
| 14:56.02 | ralfWORK | yea, but that hatefuls are physical, no? |
| 14:56.14 | sag_ich_nicht | i dunno |
| 14:56.17 | sag_ich_nicht | not been there yet :P |
| 14:57.21 | zenzelezz | SPELL_DAMAGE, ....., "Hateful Strike", ... says my combat log |
| 14:57.34 | zenzelezz | not sure if that means it's considered actual spell damage or not, since armor matters |
| 14:57.37 | ralfWORK | interesting. so you're boned. |
| 14:57.45 | sag_ich_nicht | AnduinLothar: tell telic to update his full worldmap addon please if you got some contact to him D: |
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| 15:02.50 | Nom | hurtful is melee |
| 15:02.53 | Nom | physical |
| 15:03.28 | Nom | It's a "spell" because it's a special ability |
| 15:03.42 | Nom | Like crusader strike is a "spell" |
| 15:03.54 | Nom | but it's mitigated by melee damage |
| 15:03.58 | ralfWORK | kk |
| 15:03.59 | Nom | by armor i mean |
| 15:04.24 | Nom | Coz if it weren't, I'd be critting warriors for 3k damage |
| 15:04.27 | Nom | not 600 |
| 15:04.30 | ralfWORK | lawl |
| 15:05.34 | ralfWORK | so what was your DR% and the hit you took? |
| 15:05.42 | Nom | I really hope we get a new strike in wotlk |
| 15:05.49 | Nom | only armor DR% |
| 15:05.52 | Nom | 48% |
| 15:06.07 | ralfWORK | right, and it hit you for how much? |
| 15:06.37 | Lopeppeppy | Fun fun times! http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080327/ap_on_hi_te/adobe_photoshop |
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| 15:08.50 | cog|work | ~ugt |
| 15:08.50 | purl | from memory, ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 15:08.53 | cog|work | cogumel0: ^ |
| 15:08.56 | cog|work | :P |
| 15:09.06 | ralfWORK | heh |
| 15:09.37 | Lopeppeppy | And bright freakin' happy morning to you too, grumpycog! :P |
| 15:09.51 | cog|work | chuckles |
| 15:09.56 | cog|work | was for a pm :P |
| 15:10.40 | Josh_Borke | guten morgen |
| 15:10.54 | cog|work | bonjour |
| 15:10.54 | Lopeppeppy | hugs Cogwheel anyway, 'cause she's just like that |
| 15:11.00 | Lopeppeppy | Salut. |
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| 15:16.10 | art3mis | http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2008/03/26/2008-03-26_cheerleader_star_student_dies_in_breast_.html |
| 15:16.34 | art3mis | thats natures way of saying that women are never satisfied ;P |
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| 15:18.41 | deltron | yay for darwinism! |
| 15:19.28 | foxlit | You mean killing off "star student"s is good for the species? |
| 15:19.54 | deltron | spoiled brat imo |
| 15:20.02 | deltron | I bet she had other surgeries also |
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| 15:26.34 | Lopeppeppy | They represent it at first as being vanity... but actually read a bit, guys.... Not all cosmetic surgery on breasts are about "must have larger". |
| 15:30.36 | Hjalte | Antiarc: Is AOE mode supposed to work or is it still a work in progress? |
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| 15:35.45 | Shirik|Ecole | batrick: I found the perfect solution, APCs. |
| 15:36.30 | Shirik|Ecole | I just have to adjust the code so that when we block on kernel_fetch, I call WaitForSingleObject in an alertable state |
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| 15:41.26 | Industrial | Anyone fix the chat settings yet? |
| 15:42.49 | zenzelezz | Shirik|AFK: out of curiosity, do the Windows condition variable functions not suffice for the condition variable thing you were talking about? http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms682052(VS.85).aspx |
| 15:42.55 | zenzelezz | curse the multiple shiriks |
| 15:44.17 | Shirik|Ecole | nope |
| 15:44.21 | Shirik|Ecole | Actually I had been using those forever zenzelezz |
| 15:44.29 | Shirik|Ecole | unfortunately I recently realized that they're only supported on Vista |
| 15:44.34 | zenzelezz | aha |
| 15:44.56 | Shirik|Ecole | (specifically SleepConditionVariableCS is EXACTLY what I want, but I can't use it) |
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| 16:08.00 | Nom | LOL |
| 16:08.07 | Nom | We nuked Akama sooo fast |
| 16:08.40 | Nom | I was halfway calling out 10% when started to call 5% and then 3% and i eventually ended up just saying he's dead |
| 16:09.06 | ralfWORK | :D |
| 16:09.33 | Nom | It was something like |
| 16:09.40 | Shirik|Ecole | yeah |
| 16:09.41 | Nom | ten pe...fi...thr...he's dead |
| 16:09.46 | Lopeppeppy | T..no fi... no... dead! |
| 16:09.53 | Shirik|Ecole | my guild was all like "Welcome to Akama, this fight is going to kick your ass" |
| 16:10.03 | Nom | ahaha |
| 16:10.05 | Shirik|Ecole | so I'm over in my little corner healing and they're like "okay that's the last of them, now nuke akama" |
| 16:10.08 | Nom | he's not hard as long as you learn add control |
| 16:10.13 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm like "ok" walk my butt over there |
| 16:10.14 | Shirik|Ecole | and he falls over |
| 16:10.19 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm like "wtf was so hard about that" |
| 16:10.28 | Nom | phase 1 is the hard part |
| 16:10.32 | Shirik|Ecole | I think they were trying to scare me >< |
| 16:11.00 | Shirik|Ecole | but yeah, I'm enjoying BT |
| 16:11.06 | Shirik|Ecole | glad I can actually raid with my guild now |
| 16:11.53 | Shirik|Ecole | so it was fun Nom? :) |
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| 16:12.10 | Shirik|Ecole | what class do you play? |
| 16:12.35 | ralfWORK | I'm thinking he plays lolcat |
| 16:12.38 | ralfWORK | nom nom nom |
| 16:13.54 | Lopeppeppy | Nom plays retradin! Rawr! |
| 16:14.01 | ralfWORK | ohhh yea hahahaha |
| 16:14.36 | Lopeppeppy | No laughing, he's hawt. |
| 16:16.33 | Nom | Ret is fun :D |
| 16:16.46 | Lej | Anyone got any guess why I'm getting a lot of "No player named 'some name' is currently playing" when I enter BGs? I'm guessing some raid addon? Grid, oRA2, recount perhaps? :/ |
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| 16:18.08 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm not getting that |
| 16:18.13 | Shirik|Ecole | so if you've updated grid you should be ok |
| 16:18.23 | Shirik|Ecole | recount or oRA2 I don't know |
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| 16:19.19 | ralfWORK | stupid question that I should already know |
| 16:20.04 | Nom | Lej, maybe Recount or oRA2 |
| 16:20.10 | Nom | I don't run Grid, but I had that the other day |
| 16:20.14 | Nom | Probably oRA2 |
| 16:21.09 | Nom | They need to add a function to convert a raid back into a party imo |
| 16:21.21 | ralfWORK | is there an enchant formula that turns shards into voids? |
| 16:23.31 | Nom | don't think so |
| 16:23.37 | ralfWORK | yea, I don't think so either |
| 16:23.38 | Nom | Voids are easy to get though... it's LBS that's hard |
| 16:23.49 | ralfWORK | you can turn smallers to largers and vice-versa |
| 16:23.55 | ralfWORK | but I don't think you can turn largers into voids |
| 16:24.05 | ralfWORK | (thank god you can turn voids into largers now though!) |
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| 16:38.00 | ralfWORK | more stupid question |
| 16:38.16 | ralfWORK | is there a way to set raid MT targets without CT_RA? |
| 16:39.57 | zenzelezz | oRA can do it |
| 16:41.38 | ralfWORK | hmm. k |
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| 16:43.45 | ralfWORK | so is recount changing it's name to preservation now? |
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| 16:49.38 | Cide | >>> 37-15 |
| 16:49.38 | Cide | Cide: 22 |
| 16:49.49 | Cide | >>> 10+19+20*3 |
| 16:49.49 | Cide | Cide: 89 |
| 16:50.41 | Cide | >>> 89*22 |
| 16:50.41 | Cide | Cide: 1958 |
| 16:52.22 | ralfWORK | hrm |
| 16:52.31 | ralfWORK | sounds like bigwigs is a little more advanced compared to DBM |
| 16:52.45 | ralfWORK | anyone here prefer DBM over BW? |
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| 16:52.50 | Lopeppeppy | I like it better, but that's just me. People swear by what they like best. |
| 16:53.04 | Lopeppeppy | I know our raid leader uses both so he can tell all of us exactly what we're missing. <.< |
| 16:53.11 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 16:53.12 | ralfWORK | I see |
| 16:53.16 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 16:53.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: that's why I wrote FakeRaidAddons. Watches for newer versions/version requests, and replies accordingly :). Auto-update verions whenever VARIABLES_LOADED is fired, so you don't magically update mid-raid. |
| 16:54.22 | ScytheBlade1 | >:D |
| 16:54.41 | ScytheBlade1 | "Install DBM!" "No!" "Okay, you're sitting out." "Okay, okay, done." "Good." |
| 16:54.41 | ralfWORK | rofl |
| 16:54.55 | ralfWORK | how does it know what the new version is? |
| 16:54.57 | ScytheBlade1 | "Update DBM! Yours is old!" "Okay" *relogs* |
| 16:55.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Simple comparison, bigger means newer |
| 16:55.25 | ralfWORK | oh, so the sync channel... everyone just declares what version they have |
| 16:55.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
| 16:55.35 | ralfWORK | makes sense |
| 16:55.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Or it asks for a version check, and looks for the biggest reply it gets |
| 16:55.44 | ralfWORK | btw, I'd beat you senseless if you did that in my raid :D |
| 16:55.49 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 16:55.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Why's that? ;) |
| 16:56.17 | ralfWORK | don't suppose it's occured to you that new versions often fix bugs in older ones? :) |
| 16:56.39 | ScytheBlade1 | This is made to report verions ONLY. It provides zero of the actual functions of the addon |
| 16:56.50 | ScytheBlade1 | It looks for version checks, and replies - nothing more |
| 16:57.06 | ralfWORK | naw I understand that |
| 16:57.32 | ScytheBlade1 | So how would that be a problem...? (Aside from the lie that you have it isntalled, when in fact, you do not) |
| 16:57.52 | ralfWORK | that lie is enough to warrant beatings :) |
| 16:58.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Meh. See my sig on the forums. |
| 16:58.23 | ralfWORK | what does it say, "does not play well with others"? :) |
| 16:58.45 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5591099672&sid=1#7 |
| 16:58.50 | ScytheBlade1 | <Thunder_Child> ah, nothing makes me think of WoW more than seeing 15 different addons telling me i dont know how to play |
| 16:58.53 | ScytheBlade1 | <End> Well, I'm not an AddOn, but you don't know how to play |
| 16:59.19 | Lopeppeppy | Well... I just meant that he can tell us the boss warnings we're missing... *laugh* |
| 16:59.28 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 16:59.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, boss mods suck ;) |
| 16:59.39 | Lopeppeppy | I'm the version-police in my raid group. |
| 16:59.45 | ralfWORK | *shrug* |
| 16:59.56 | ralfWORK | just seems that if you don't like being required to run the addons for the raid you're in |
| 16:59.59 | ralfWORK | then you should find another raid |
| 17:00.06 | ralfWORK | not lie about what you do or don't have |
| 17:00.53 | ScytheBlade1 | You know I'd agree with you (which is why I haven't released it) |
| 17:00.59 | ralfWORK | rofl |
| 17:00.59 | ScytheBlade1 | But a lot of that is situation specific |
| 17:01.08 | ScytheBlade1 | For what it's worth, the guild I wrote it for, I left ;) |
| 17:01.15 | ralfWORK | heheh gotcha |
| 17:02.47 | batrick | Shirik|AFK: sounds good I guess |
| 17:03.05 | Lopeppeppy | Best... quote... ever. "The day I meet a guy who handles me as carefully as he handles his Xbox controller, I might reconsider dating." |
| 17:03.18 | Cairenn | lol, I likes! |
| 17:03.34 | ralfWORK | hmm |
| 17:03.36 | ralfWORK | dunno |
| 17:03.47 | ralfWORK | I usually throw my controller at the walls |
| 17:03.56 | ralfWORK | also, the dog chews it to shit |
| 17:03.59 | zenzelezz | I don't quite get it either, most people I know are rough as sin with their controllers |
| 17:04.13 | ralfWORK | so I guess if you're into that kinda thing! |
| 17:07.56 | zenzelezz | what's the Nether Vortex prices like on your realms? |
| 17:08.09 | ralfWORK | I've seen advertisements for like 200-250g |
| 17:08.22 | ralfWORK | dunno if those actually got bought by anyone though |
| 17:08.29 | ralfWORK | also, 15 badges :D |
| 17:08.53 | zenzelezz | I see them at ~100-200 on my realm, seems it's still looking for a level to settle at |
| 17:09.22 | ScytheBlade1 | It'll probably go higher |
| 17:09.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Well on the higher end |
| 17:09.34 | zenzelezz | higher? |
| 17:09.41 | ralfWORK | yea, I think the price is still getting stabilized a bit |
| 17:09.51 | ralfWORK | I assume shards are going to do the same thing |
| 17:09.52 | zenzelezz | with badges being even easier to get, why would the prices rise? |
| 17:10.03 | ralfWORK | nethers should stabilize soon though |
| 17:10.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Guilds can and will sell them |
| 17:10.13 | ScytheBlade1 | And guilds like money :) |
| 17:10.35 | ralfWORK | it'll take a little longer for shards to stabilize; people have to get rep for the recipe, and people need to get that cooldown working |
| 17:10.57 | ralfWORK | hmm |
| 17:11.19 | ralfWORK | I wonder, should I place a value of 1 void = 3 shards in our guild vault? |
| 17:11.31 | zenzelezz | ScytheBlade1: of course, but if there's tons available, I can't picture them costing much |
| 17:12.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Eh. Who knows. |
| 17:12.04 | ralfWORK | zenzelezz: my guess is they will stabilize at 150-200g |
| 17:12.11 | ScytheBlade1 | That's what I would guess also |
| 17:12.18 | ralfWORK | ymmv imo etc etc |
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| 17:13.20 | ralfWORK | wonders when a new WWS client is coming out |
| 17:13.27 | ScytheBlade1 | It's out |
| 17:13.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Well a 2.4 one anyways |
| 17:13.43 | ralfWORK | the one I ran this morning failed to realize we had 2 tanks in ZA |
| 17:13.56 | ralfWORK | so... I'm thinking bugfixes are in order :) |
| 17:13.58 | ScytheBlade1 | lol, good times |
| 17:14.07 | ralfWORK | it's cool though |
| 17:14.11 | ralfWORK | says we 9-manned ZA |
| 17:16.13 | ralfWORK | http://wowwebstats.com/zm2okomar4gc3 lawl |
| 17:27.47 | zenzelezz | "Apparently Kel'Thuzad is bugged in a similar fashion, though god only knows what someone was doing there a day after the patch. " -- lol |
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| 17:31.31 | Nom | so glad we're progressing quick on unlocks |
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| 17:31.41 | Nom | might unlock our badge vendor same time i get enough badges for new pants :D |
| 17:31.43 | Lunessa | station |
| 17:31.52 | Nom | 92% when i logged off |
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| 17:31.56 | Nom | nite all, 2:30am here :D |
| 17:33.29 | ralfWORK | hmm |
| 17:33.41 | ralfWORK | badge vendor is P3 right? |
| 17:35.47 | kd3 | phase 3B |
| 17:36.00 | ralfWORK | yea these damn phase don't make no damn sense to me |
| 17:36.06 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Shattered_Sun_Offensive#Quests |
| 17:36.09 | ralfWORK | some are fixed timeline, some are not? |
| 17:36.57 | Vangual | all hax an autocomplete time but all can be unlocked faster by quests |
| 17:37.03 | Vangual | hax=have |
| 17:37.09 | ralfWORK | ok yes |
| 17:37.11 | ralfWORK | I heard that today |
| 17:37.24 | ralfWORK | but is there like 2 paralel unlockings? |
| 17:37.30 | kd3 | go to the link... |
| 17:37.30 | ralfWORK | l2spell ralfWORK |
| 17:37.46 | kd3 | my writeup's pretty extensive all over the SSO article |
| 17:37.55 | ralfWORK | yes... I see rep info... |
| 17:38.01 | ralfWORK | let's see |
| 17:38.17 | ralfWORK | hmm ok |
| 17:39.17 | Lunessa | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/03/27/funny-pictures-from-yonder-window-breaks/ |
| 17:40.03 | ralfWORK | yep! |
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| 17:41.07 | ralfWORK | soo... you can do P2 -> P3 -> P2B |
| 17:41.19 | ralfWORK | am I understanding that correctly? |
| 17:41.21 | kd3 | that's how we did it on the PTR |
| 17:41.39 | kd3 | "Those two objectives are tracked separately, and short of their requirement to start in Phase 2, are completely unrelated." |
| 17:41.48 | ralfWORK | right... k |
| 17:41.58 | ralfWORK | or you could do |
| 17:42.18 | ralfWORK | 2 -> 3 -> 4 -> 2B |
| 17:42.22 | kd3 | yeah |
| 17:42.24 | ralfWORK | (unlikely, but you could) |
| 17:42.27 | ralfWORK | ok, gotcha |
| 17:42.40 | ralfWORK | but 2 has to happen before 3, and 3 before 4 |
| 17:42.43 | kd3 | yes |
| 17:42.47 | ralfWORK | kk |
| 17:42.57 | ralfWORK | so where's the badge vendor! ;) |
| 17:43.00 | ralfWORK | *reads more* |
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| 17:43.18 | ralfWORK | armory, gotcha |
| 17:43.52 | foxlit | I seem to recall slouken drawing a diagram of what a unit guid was composed of |
| 17:44.01 | foxlit | But I can't find t at the moment. Anyone remember where/if? |
| 17:44.07 | ralfWORK | ah, but Phase 2 has to be completed, and then it gets opened. I see. |
| 17:44.24 | ralfWORK | so... in other words, when P3 starts, we'll have the badge dude |
| 17:44.40 | kd3 | active, but not selling stuff |
| 17:44.48 | ralfWORK | ohhh |
| 17:44.59 | kd3 | she doesn't start selling stuff for badges until we complete her quests enough times, which is the objective of getting into P3B |
| 17:45.51 | Josh_Borke | how do you know how far you are along a phase? |
| 17:45.59 | kd3 | talk to the questgivers for that phase |
| 17:46.01 | ralfWORK | hmm. so P3B has to be started for her to sell stuff? |
| 17:46.07 | kd3 | yes |
| 17:46.10 | ralfWORK | hmm |
| 17:46.14 | Josh_Borke | psh, i always just ignore what the questgivers say :-P |
| 17:46.21 | kd3 | she also turns into the repair vendor at that point |
| 17:46.30 | ralfWORK | ok, so quickest way to get her unlocked |
| 17:46.44 | ralfWORK | 1 -> 2 -> 3 -> 3B |
| 17:46.47 | kd3 | have everyone do "Making Ready" once she's available |
| 17:46.48 | kd3 | yeah |
| 17:46.54 | ralfWORK | ya, ok |
| 17:46.59 | ralfWORK | well damn |
| 17:47.04 | ralfWORK | that probably won't be tonight thin :D |
| 17:47.05 | ralfWORK | *then |
| 17:47.16 | kd3 | blues on the forums estimated it'd take a month |
| 17:47.23 | kd3 | it'll probably be a week or two at most |
| 17:47.25 | NightHawkTheSane | so no, not tonight. ;) |
| 17:47.39 | ralfWORK | I think when I log on tonight we'll be P2 |
| 17:47.56 | ralfWORK | dunno how long each phase takes, but we were at like 80% of P1 last night |
| 17:48.01 | NightHawkTheSane | we got to p2 last night |
| 17:48.36 | ralfWORK | so wwhat else interesting happens though, really? |
| 17:48.51 | ralfWORK | anything other than new quests for P2, or do we get some vendors and crap? |
| 17:49.07 | NightHawkTheSane | not really. no. there's a generic trade good vendor that shows up. but i think thats it |
| 17:49.10 | kd3 | more vendors... phase 4 turns the big building into an inn with a mailbox |
| 17:49.17 | kd3 | p2 just more questgivers and tradegoods |
| 17:49.30 | Lopeppeppy | http://www.cubo.cc/ -- just for fun |
| 17:49.32 | ralfWORK | kd3: ok, but P2 doesn't let us repair or buy anything really interesting |
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| 17:49.36 | kd3 | no |
| 17:49.38 | NightHawkTheSane | no |
| 17:49.45 | ralfWORK | P3B here i come! |
| 17:59.53 | sag_ich_nicht | HALP |
| 17:59.58 | sag_ich_nicht | MY CHAT SETTINGS ARE NOT SAVING |
| 17:59.59 | sag_ich_nicht | HALP |
| 18:00.05 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 18:00.06 | ralfWORK | rofl |
| 18:00.11 | kd3 | DIAF |
| 18:00.22 | ScytheBlade1 | sag_ich_nicht: quit using alt+F4 to quit and remove the read-only box from your WTF folder. |
| 18:00.31 | ScytheBlade1 | needs ForumTOCPoster for IRC |
| 18:00.57 | ralfWORK | actually |
| 18:01.16 | ralfWORK | I thought it said "this is broken and will likely be fixed in 2.4.2 |
| 18:01.17 | ralfWORK | " |
| 18:01.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Link? |
| 18:01.33 | kd3 | I put that in the 2.4 sticky |
| 18:01.36 | ralfWORK | in the sticky! |
| 18:01.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, wow |
| 18:01.43 | ralfWORK | yep, kd3 put it in there |
| 18:01.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Good times |
| 18:01.49 | ralfWORK | READ THE STICKY NUB |
| 18:02.07 | ScytheBlade1 | I DID |
| 18:02.08 | ScytheBlade1 | :( |
| 18:02.16 | ralfWORK | you failed! |
| 18:02.37 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: post diffs of your stickies whenever you change them, kthx |
| 18:02.51 | kd3 | lol |
| 18:04.44 | foxlit | oh wow |
| 18:04.54 | foxlit | you can hear a flight form bumping against the world ceiling from ground level |
| 18:04.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Was that bug just something that Zoot said, or what? Where is the source? |
| 18:05.05 | ralfWORK | dafux |
| 18:05.10 | kd3 | just intuition on my part |
| 18:05.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah |
| 18:05.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Well that is entirely possible |
| 18:06.00 | sag_ich_nicht | [19:00] <ScytheBlade1> sag_ich_nicht: quit using alt+F4 to quit and remove the read-only box from your WTF folder. <--no that's not the problem |
| 18:06.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | <foxlit> you can hear a flight form bumping against the world ceiling from ground level |
| 18:06.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | imagine noise raids led by hundreds of angry druids |
| 18:06.27 | sag_ich_nicht | [19:02] <ScytheBlade1> kd3: post diffs of your stickies whenever you change them, kthx <--agree'd |
| 18:06.31 | sag_ich_nicht | that would be way more useful |
| 18:07.00 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 18:07.03 | Cide | but then we'd get stuff like |
| 18:07.10 | Cide | "My addons button doesn't show up, what should I do? |
| 18:07.17 | Cide | - JUST DELETE YOUR FUCKING GAME, THANKS |
| 18:07.24 | ScytheBlade1 | LOL |
| 18:07.25 | ScytheBlade1 | YES |
| 18:07.28 | ralfWORK | hahahahah |
| 18:07.32 | Fisker- | kd3 |
| 18:07.34 | Cide | + This is a known issue. Please try again. |
| 18:07.35 | Fisker- | i just had sex with you |
| 18:07.56 | kd3 | ah, that must be why I feel so unfulfilled today |
| 18:08.05 | ralfWORK | and sticky, probably |
| 18:08.09 | Fisker- | your mother |
| 18:08.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide: I declare you today's epic winner, congrats |
| 18:08.51 | ScytheBlade1 | *todays |
| 18:08.54 | ScytheBlade1 | I forget, my head hurts |
| 18:08.55 | ScytheBlade1 | afk! |
| 18:08.56 | Cide | *today's |
| 18:09.08 | Cide | you are today's epic failure, it appears |
| 18:09.29 | ScytheBlade1 | I've had this migraine since Sunday :( |
| 18:09.58 | ScytheBlade1 | actually afk |
| 18:10.49 | Josh_Borke | interesting |
| 18:10.58 | Josh_Borke | they are bugfixing something that broke boss mods |
| 18:11.15 | kd3 | loot reaver? |
| 18:11.22 | Josh_Borke | yes |
| 18:11.58 | zenzelezz | any word on whether the RoS phase 2 and Kael'thas phase 4 changes are bugs or intentional? |
| 18:17.55 | zenzelezz | "Nayia's Metting Stone Summon creates a Meeting Stone Summoning Portal" |
| 18:18.01 | zenzelezz | I like the new combat log a lot |
| 18:18.29 | zenzelezz | of course I typoed, but whatever |
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| 18:39.02 | Industrial | Fitna on lifeleak.com |
| 18:39.45 | Industrial | http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7d9_1206624103 |
| 18:41.46 | zenzelezz | what's Fitna? |
| 18:42.04 | Industrial | movie by a dutch politician about the islam |
| 18:42.20 | zenzelezz | the thing he got shot for, or a different one? |
| 18:44.24 | Industrial | a different one, the one that got shot was a moviemaker |
| 18:44.31 | Industrial | but this guy is also on the 'hit list' |
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| 18:51.45 | zenzelezz | anyone familiar with Quartz? I can't seem to get the "copy from" thing on the Profile part of the settings to work |
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| 18:54.05 | kd3 | gah, what in the world... |
| 18:54.10 | Lunessa | zenzelezz: Common Ace2 problem. |
| 18:54.10 | kd3 | my grandfather just turned 80 today |
| 18:54.26 | ralfWORK | wow |
| 18:55.15 | zenzelezz | Lunessa: I see, thanks |
| 18:58.42 | Lunessa | Not to say anything bad about it, but I can NEVER make it work for any of the Ace2 AddOns. I just gave up. |
| 19:05.35 | foxlit | "How to get full event strings: Read prefix to suffix in order and use the parameter table as specified." |
| 19:11.34 | foxlit | That's a tall order, considering both are evil :( |
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| 19:23.08 | ralfWORK | hmm. wonder how many days of dailies need to be done to hit honored with SSO |
| 19:24.17 | Cairenn | guys, is there a work around for the chat not saving settings? |
| 19:24.33 | sag_ich_nicht | okay |
| 19:24.38 | sag_ich_nicht | so |
| 19:24.48 | sag_ich_nicht | threat-2.0 is shoting up INSANELY in CPU usage |
| 19:24.49 | Cairenn | here's the world, it's all nice and round |
| 19:24.51 | sag_ich_nicht | just fyi |
| 19:25.19 | ralfWORK | sag_ich_nicht: that why omen is failing? |
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| 19:25.32 | kd3 | I haven't heard of a workaround yet |
| 19:25.40 | sag_ich_nicht | ralfWORK: possible |
| 19:25.45 | Cairenn | okay |
| 19:25.48 | Cairenn | thanks |
| 19:25.56 | ralfWORK | (I assume Omen uses threat-2.0 but idk) |
| 19:26.10 | sag_ich_nicht | yes it does |
| 19:26.15 | ralfWORK | mkay |
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| 19:33.57 | Gngsk | Cairenn, I have a work around |
| 19:34.04 | Cairenn | you do? what? |
| 19:34.25 | Gngsk | http://home.comcast.net/~gngsk/FixChat.zip |
| 19:34.44 | Cairenn | is that for the combat log, or for overall? |
| 19:34.58 | Gngsk | it can be done for overall probably |
| 19:35.05 | Cairenn | okay |
| 19:35.06 | Cairenn | thanks |
| 19:35.21 | Gngsk | the problem i was having is channels would show up in places I didn't want, so that just removes them from whatever chan |
| 19:35.32 | Gngsk | er, whatever frame |
| 19:35.36 | Cairenn | *nod* |
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| 19:35.46 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+v Lopeppeppy] by ChanServ |
| 19:35.57 | Cairenn | huggles Lopeppeppy |
| 19:36.10 | Lopeppeppy | huggles Cairenn right back, with interest |
| 19:36.13 | Cairenn | :) |
| 19:36.15 | mikma | Gngsk: ace? for that? |
| 19:36.31 | Gngsk | lol |
| 19:36.45 | Gngsk | out of conveinence for the fully intialiazed event |
| 19:36.48 | mikma | what the hell is wrong with you! *slap in the face* |
| 19:36.50 | Gngsk | it has to be run after all channels have been set |
| 19:38.38 | Gngsk | that's also just a brute force work around it doesn't really fix the issue the the chatframes aren't, for whatever reason, obeying the settings in chat-cache.txt |
| 19:39.56 | Lunessa | hugs Lopeppeppy & Cairenn |
| 19:40.11 | mikma | Gngsk: oh so that is actually a bug :O i should beliebe my wife more in stuff like that.. "what the hell is wrong with this?!?" 'didn't your game crash? it doesnt save settings then' |
| 19:40.40 | Gngsk | mikma, yah it's a bug. strange thing is it was on PTR and got fixed, now it's back. :\ |
| 19:43.01 | zenzelezz | one more Quartz question, is the swing timer supposed to work for dual wielders? |
| 19:43.13 | Gngsk | zenzelezz, nope |
| 19:43.15 | ScytheBlade1 | MentalPower: so I wrote a small addon which records all seen GUIDs and the object type (player, npc, pet, guardian, object). Long story short, there are a LOT of players who jump into the 6-12 range of the GUID. |
| 19:43.25 | zenzelezz | Gngsk: well that explains that, thanks =) |
| 19:43.32 | MentalPower | ScytheBlade1: eek... |
| 19:43.43 | Gngsk | funny story though, my offhand broke in the middle of the last brutallus attempt last night, vanished and it showed up |
| 19:43.53 | MentalPower | ScytheBlade1: is it only on your server? |
| 19:44.06 | zenzelezz | ScytheBlade1: what's the "6-12 range"? |
| 19:44.17 | ScytheBlade1 | zenzelezz: string.sub(GUID, 6, 12) |
| 19:44.23 | MentalPower | and is there still a way to check for player vs non-player with only the GUID? |
| 19:44.26 | Cairenn | hugs Lunessa |
| 19:44.38 | zenzelezz | oh, thought you were talking about specific values |
| 19:44.45 | ScytheBlade1 | MentalPower: uh, no. I joined a round of AV. 171 players recorded that are overlapping into that region. |
| 19:44.58 | MentalPower | ... |
| 19:45.03 | MentalPower | crap on a stick |
| 19:45.46 | MentalPower | is there a pattern to the player GUIDs? |
| 19:45.56 | MentalPower | or is that just out of the question |
| 19:45.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah. +1 from the last character created. |
| 19:46.05 | ScytheBlade1 | ;) |
| 19:46.14 | MentalPower | that doesn't help me :P |
| 19:46.33 | MentalPower | I meant any other way to say "this is a player" "this is an NPC" |
| 19:46.40 | MentalPower | via GUID examination |
| 19:46.46 | haste | should be |
| 19:46.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Check the first byte. If it's F, then it is not a player. So far, that's all I've been able to see |
| 19:47.31 | MentalPower | you mean the first 4bits |
| 19:47.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Whatever :) |
| 19:47.43 | MentalPower | :P |
| 19:49.24 | Lopeppeppy | hugs Lunessa. This circle of hugs is fun! |
| 19:49.39 | Lunessa | It's a Circle-hug! |
| 19:49.48 | Lopeppeppy | .... I'm in. |
| 19:51.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Hehe. Sitting in Shatt by the Scryer bank took it from 171 to 177. |
| 19:54.36 | MentalPower | ScytheBlade1: are GUIDs always uppercase? |
| 19:54.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes |
| 19:54.49 | MentalPower | 0xFBC323542ABC |
| 19:55.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Looks... short |
| 19:55.07 | MentalPower | k, that simplifies the checking |
| 19:55.10 | MentalPower | it is |
| 19:55.12 | MentalPower | I made it up |
| 19:55.29 | MentalPower | BTW, I especially like the "0x0000000000000000" GUID |
| 19:55.37 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 19:55.38 | MentalPower | its quite nice if you're not expecting it |
| 19:56.18 | MentalPower | lua> ("0xF000000000000000"):sub(3,3) |
| 19:56.19 | lua_bot | MentalPower: F |
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| 20:01.20 | Adys | There was a nice addon listing cached items, but it's not been working since a couple of patches - any idea if there's been an update since then? dont even remember its name :/ |
| 20:01.32 | Lopeppeppy | LootLink? |
| 20:01.37 | Adys | Nah |
| 20:01.57 | Adys | Was using pretty much the aution UI |
| 20:02.44 | Adys | but if any other addon does cache listing im interested too :) |
| 20:03.33 | zenzelezz | combat log from BT (start to two tries on RoS): 65 MB... lots of new fun data to play around with |
| 20:03.56 | Lopeppeppy | Can you play with it yet, zenzelezz? |
| 20:04.12 | zenzelezz | sure, I have my text editor |
| 20:04.30 | Lopeppeppy | oh, well then, that makes it all better. |
| 20:04.59 | zenzelezz | I'm pretty much just staring at it; going to write some kind of combat info thingie for myself just for fun |
| 20:05.12 | Lopeppeppy | Oh.. you have an odd idea of fun, darlin'. |
| 20:05.19 | zenzelezz | I like coding |
| 20:05.52 | ScytheBlade1 | MentalPower: http://wowi.pastey.net/84500 - note the subtable labeled "bigger" (just watch the tab indentation change) |
| 20:06.09 | zenzelezz | the ringing in my ears tells me my guild finally got RoS down |
| 20:06.18 | cladhaire | gz |
| 20:06.53 | MentalPower | ScytheBlade1: nice data, thanks! |
| 20:07.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 20:07.41 | ScytheBlade1 | It's a pretty easy addon :) |
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| 20:11.50 | cladhaire | 2.3 -> 2.4 actual changes: http://patchdiff.pastey.net/84384 |
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| 20:13.48 | foxlit | Hah, how interesting |
| 20:13.51 | foxlit | MH3 still works |
| 20:13.56 | foxlit | And it's an ancient version |
| 20:14.12 | foxlit | probably on UNIT_DAMAGE? |
| 20:14.48 | zenzelezz | MH3? |
| 20:15.28 | sag_ich_nicht | asdasdsadasd |
| 20:15.39 | sag_ich_nicht | fucking threat-2.0 issue |
| 20:15.44 | cladhaire | it was to use UNIT_DAMAGE or UNIT_COMBAT |
| 20:15.48 | ralfWORK | :( |
| 20:15.52 | cladhaire | and those didn't change |
| 20:15.52 | sag_ich_nicht | still CPU usage so high it causes disconnects by hanging the lua system too long |
| 20:16.33 | mikma | cladhaire: while at it, tell us all the undocumented changes :D |
| 20:17.00 | cladhaire | too many to list :P |
| 20:17.00 | mikma | i've noticed 2 already. there's now hellalot of ravagers in netherwing mine, and the angler ray -quest npc has now a mount |
| 20:17.34 | kd3 | wonder if the drake in there's ever going to have a quest for us? |
| 20:17.52 | mikma | kd3: in the mines? it has a quest :P |
| 20:18.15 | kd3 | whuh? when did that get added |
| 20:18.18 | kd3 | tabs open the wiki |
| 20:18.34 | mikma | if i remember correctly, it requires a drop from the oozes |
| 20:18.51 | kd3 | oh, that's the one where you've gotta talk to the murkblood and get its hand |
| 20:19.00 | kd3 | ends at the mistress of the mines |
| 20:19.14 | kd3 | as part of "Seeker of Truth" |
| 20:19.39 | mikma | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32726 |
| 20:19.48 | kd3 | yeah |
| 20:20.02 | kd3 | which leads to http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=11082 |
| 20:20.33 | mikma | hmmm, no. that wasn't it |
| 20:21.03 | mikma | then it might be the killing the miners quest or it doesn't have a quest |
| 20:21.22 | kd3 | killing the miners is offered by the newly-mounted slave driver |
| 20:21.55 | mikma | that one has a mount too? |
| 20:22.10 | kd3 | thought that was the guy you're talking about... he's just in front of the drake |
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| 20:22.34 | kd3 | oh, nvm |
| 20:22.39 | mikma | no no, that mounted dude is in skyguard part of ogri'la |
| 20:22.41 | kd3 | rereads what was written |
| 20:22.47 | mikma | the gnomey |
| 20:32.59 | ScytheBlade1 | MentalPower: hahaha. Epic win. http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=B5E796C0A33DE3E84EB9BD723FB70F9E?topicId=2968233433&sid=1&pageNo=28#547 |
| 20:34.00 | MentalPower | woot!! |
| 20:35.55 | mikma | The Lich King waits now, scheming to lure adventurers down the same dark path that Arthas tread. Frostmourne hungers for the souls of both the brave and the foolish, and somewhere Ner'zhul's voice still echoes within the helm of the Lich King. |
| 20:35.59 | mikma | "Now, we are one." |
| 20:36.20 | deltron | I wish shaman could use swords |
| 20:36.29 | deltron | because I'm sure we'll be getting frostmourne in game |
| 20:36.54 | mikma | how about destroying it instead as a final quest |
| 20:37.12 | deltron | nowai! |
| 20:37.18 | deltron | I wants it |
| 20:37.19 | mikma | a sword that makes you turn side |
| 20:37.21 | deltron | preciousssssss |
| 20:49.05 | Antiarc | sag_ich_nicht: Do you have CPU usage numbers for me? |
| 20:49.21 | Antiarc | I haven't been able to get any abnormal behavior, solo, 5-man, or raid |
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| 20:51.56 | Tem | deltron, the likelyhood of us getting frostmorne in game is pretty low imo |
| 20:52.16 | Tem | we may get a derrivative sword as a drop from arthas |
| 20:52.23 | Tem | (assuming we kill him) |
| 20:52.41 | Tem | but lore-wise, getting the actual frostmorne doesn't make sense |
| 20:53.21 | QforQ | Does smariot ever come in here? |
| 20:55.53 | MentalPower | ~seen smariot |
| 20:56.00 | purl | i haven't seen 'smariot', MentalPower |
| 20:56.07 | MentalPower | QforQ: ^^^^ |
| 20:56.40 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc: is fps 1 and not able to enable CPU profiling because of even more usage enough? |
| 20:56.54 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc: i'm suspecting a problem with cross language communication, altho that shouldn't happen |
| 20:57.19 | QforQ | Well, not sure what his IRC name is but I was looking for the guy who creates QuestHelper |
| 20:57.45 | sag_ich_nicht | also i'm seeing 1x TL2 and 3x TL2? in AddonSpamFu |
| 20:58.36 | Antiarc | Cross-language shouldn't be a factor anymore |
| 20:59.22 | MentalPower | ~seen DBE-Kinj |
| 20:59.24 | purl | dbe-kinj <n=Derek@cpe-75-185-145-27.neo.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 2d 5h 11m 50s ago, saying: 'When is maintence supposed to be over today?'. |
| 20:59.43 | Antiarc | sag_ich_nicht: If possible, install Expo and profile the ThreatLibProfile namespace, if possible |
| 20:59.46 | Antiarc | Then screenshot it for me |
| 20:59.52 | Antiarc | That should give me all the info I need |
| 21:01.27 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc: kk |
| 21:01.35 | Antiarc | I've been profiling threatlib and can't find any abnormal (or even worrying) CPU usage, so any info you can give me would be A+ |
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| 21:03.28 | MentalPower | ScytheBlade1: lemme see if I got this right, we should be checking for guid:sub(5,5) to see if something is a player or NPC |
| 21:04.05 | sag_ich_nicht | [21:58] <Antiarc> Cross-language shouldn't be a factor anymore <--i know |
| 21:04.18 | Drundia | 30831 messages stored in combat log cache..... |
| 21:04.21 | Rayne | Oh happy day! |
| 21:04.30 | Rayne | :D |
| 21:04.32 | MentalPower | if its 0 then its player, if its 3 its an NPC and if its 4 its a pet |
| 21:04.34 | Rayne | Hello all |
| 21:04.55 | zenzelezz | ahoy Rayne |
| 21:05.30 | MentalPower | I figure string splitting and string comparison is faster than converting to number and comparing bitmasks |
| 21:06.11 | ralfWORK | it's not a number? |
| 21:06.22 | MentalPower | is a GUID |
| 21:06.30 | ralfWORK | I mean |
| 21:06.31 | MentalPower | so its sent to us in string form |
| 21:06.35 | ralfWORK | ok |
| 21:06.37 | ralfWORK | weird |
| 21:06.44 | ralfWORK | I'd figure it to be... not string |
| 21:06.45 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 21:06.49 | MentalPower | "0xF1300061AA03B78C" |
| 21:06.56 | dylanm | Yeah that's the weird thing about the language. |
| 21:07.01 | ralfWORK | ah k |
| 21:07.01 | Rayne | So its been a great day so far. |
| 21:07.05 | MentalPower | but you can easily convert it to a number |
| 21:07.06 | ralfWORK | yea, I don't know anything about LUA |
| 21:07.17 | MentalPower | lua> tonumber("0xF1300061AA03B78C", 16) |
| 21:07.18 | lua_bot | MentalPower: 1.7379391381487e+19 |
| 21:07.39 | Rayne | I got the Commendationof Kael'thas to drop for me in heroic MagT, this guy whos been getting accounts to harass me on got caught in the act finally, and its not snowing in Edmonton for once |
| 21:07.43 | MentalPower | lua> tonumber("0xF1300061AA03B78C", 16) == 0xF1300061AA03B78C |
| 21:07.43 | lua_bot | MentalPower: true |
| 21:08.05 | Rayne | So if I dont talk to you all tomorrow, its probably because I got murdered cause I just jinxed myself to hell |
| 21:08.40 | ralfWORK | Rayne: which item is that? |
| 21:09.05 | Rayne | ralfWORK: http://wowhead.com/?item=34473 |
| 21:09.25 | ralfWORK | oh snap that one |
| 21:09.59 | ralfWORK | I'm really really curious how good that'll be |
| 21:10.16 | Rayne | Ill let you know, TK tonight |
| 21:10.16 | dylanm | It was a lot better when they first put it in. |
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| 21:10.30 | ralfWORK | dylanm: yea, I don't care about that. curious about how it is now :) |
| 21:10.34 | dylanm | I was like 20% holy crap. |
| 21:10.35 | ralfWORK | Rayne: kickass, thanks |
| 21:10.36 | Rayne | dylanm: yeah but the way it was, if they DIDNT nerf it people would scream |
| 21:10.37 | dylanm | It's still good. |
| 21:10.50 | sag_ich_nicht | i just faked a disc in hyjal for you Antiarc hope you're happy :P |
| 21:10.51 | ralfWORK | iirc, +57sta is good |
| 21:10.54 | sag_ich_nicht | tries to profile it |
| 21:11.13 | ralfWORK | I'm more curious about the proc on it though |
| 21:11.28 | Rayne | Im going to add it to my pvp set and see if it works |
| 21:12.00 | Antiarc | sag_ich_nicht: You can also profile the Omen namespace if you want |
| 21:23.52 | Rayne | yawns |
| 21:29.18 | sag_ich_nicht | okay this is weird |
| 21:29.25 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc i didn't get the fps problem this time |
| 21:29.41 | sag_ich_nicht | BUT |
| 21:29.44 | sag_ich_nicht | i got you some other issues! |
| 21:29.54 | sag_ich_nicht | hold for screenshots! |
| 21:30.05 | Antiarc | Yay, thank you |
| 21:33.15 | mikma | fps issue |
| 21:33.17 | mikma | sounds funny |
| 21:33.52 | mikma | i have like 2 fps when i'm in the isle of yadayada :D |
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| 21:35.13 | sag_ich_nicht | http://loliserv.org/~afora/WoWScrnShot_032708_222242.jpg |
| 21:35.15 | sag_ich_nicht | http://loliserv.org/~afora/WoWScrnShot_032708_222204.jpg |
| 21:35.21 | sag_ich_nicht | http://loliserv.org/~afora/WoWScrnShot_032708_221956.jpg |
| 21:35.25 | sag_ich_nicht | these are still uploading |
| 21:35.29 | sag_ich_nicht | but it's a progressive jpg |
| 21:35.32 | sag_ich_nicht | so just spam F5 |
| 21:35.32 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 21:36.10 | sag_ich_nicht | (YES I WENT THERE AND USED JPG IN THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE USED) |
| 21:36.20 | sys_rage | swstats finally got uploaded? |
| 21:36.24 | sag_ich_nicht | ya |
| 21:36.29 | sys_rage | cool |
| 21:36.34 | foxlit | (INTERLACED PNGs!) |
| 21:37.27 | sys_rage | woot for correctly merged pet data |
| 21:38.27 | sag_ich_nicht | and yes my interface is a mess |
| 21:38.29 | sag_ich_nicht | NO THANKS TO YOU SHIRIK |
| 21:38.34 | sag_ich_nicht | I CAN'T USE RDX NOW |
| 21:38.42 | sag_ich_nicht | stab Shirik|zZz |
| 21:39.18 | mikma | oh that's sexy font |
| 21:39.32 | sag_ich_nicht | :> |
| 21:39.39 | sag_ich_nicht | Fixedsys Excelsor 3.01 |
| 21:39.50 | mikma | <3 fixedsys |
| 21:40.01 | sag_ich_nicht | *Excelsior |
| 21:40.03 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.fixedsysexcelsior.com/ |
| 21:40.32 | Rayne | sag_ich_nicht: UI SCALE UI SCALE @_@ |
| 21:40.52 | sag_ich_nicht | Rayne: NO NO NO BECAUSE I HAVE A 22" WIDESCREEN MONITOR AND AS I SAID BLAME 2.4 |
| 21:41.23 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc |
| 21:41.25 | sag_ich_nicht | ! |
| 21:41.34 | Antiarc | ? |
| 21:41.44 | sag_ich_nicht | screenshots |
| 21:41.45 | sag_ich_nicht | linked |
| 21:41.45 | sag_ich_nicht | above |
| 21:41.48 | sag_ich_nicht | check them out |
| 21:42.01 | sag_ich_nicht | threat issue AND UI issue |
| 21:42.01 | Antiarc | I did, thanks |
| 21:42.08 | sag_ich_nicht | any ideas? :P |
| 21:42.28 | Antiarc | Not yet. |
| 21:42.30 | Antiarc | Lots to look into. |
| 21:42.34 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 21:43.05 | Antiarc | I seriously have an issue list a mile long :P |
| 21:43.11 | Antiarc | I'm working them out as fast as I can |
| 21:43.11 | Gngsk | I couldn't imagine how busy you are man |
| 21:43.17 | Antiarc | It's been a crazy past few days. |
| 21:43.19 | Gngsk | thanks for the hard work ! |
| 21:43.31 | mikma | Antiarc: NO, YOU FIX THEM, YOU FIX THEM ALL NOW! |
| 21:43.39 | Antiarc | mikma: Sent pizza and beer, plzthx. |
| 21:43.43 | Antiarc | Send* |
| 21:43.57 | Antiarc | You people are obviously not sending me enough beer |
| 21:44.03 | mikma | Antiarc: no you need to starve and be dehydrated to work properly. continue coding! |
| 21:44.09 | Antiarc | Or else I would be operating inside the Ballmer Peak and it would obviously be done by now. |
| 21:44.18 | Gngsk | btw sag_ich_nicht, that's a pretty impressive amount of buffs you got there. is that what playing a ret pally is always like? |
| 21:44.35 | mikma | Antiarc: you also suck, KTM dude will win !!!111 |
| 21:45.00 | Antiarc | Hahah |
| 21:45.00 | Rayne | O_o |
| 21:45.17 | Rayne | I need to update Cherry Lite so people stop bitching... |
| 21:45.53 | Rayne | Last time I checked, it wasnt hard to run WoWAce updater, and download the new MSBT... |
| 21:46.02 | Rayne | But aparently these people dont have arms or something... |
| 21:49.01 | sag_ich_nicht | Gngsk: that's not a lot of buffs... |
| 21:51.29 | sag_ich_nicht | 4 paladin buffs 3 priest buffs 2 pots 1 bufffood is a given, 5 are from items/class abilities alone and also pretty perma up for me |
| 21:51.47 | sag_ich_nicht | *6 |
| 21:51.51 | Lunessa | Antiarc: You give me coordinates, I'll send you a goddamned pizza. |
| 21:52.00 | sag_ich_nicht | and then you have an alliance paladin adding another 5 |
| 21:52.04 | sag_ich_nicht | *shaman |
| 21:52.05 | Antiarc | I was joking >_> |
| 21:52.05 | sag_ich_nicht | not paladin |
| 21:52.06 | sag_ich_nicht | asasdsad |
| 21:52.07 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 21:52.11 | Lunessa | I'll send you TWO pizzas. |
| 21:52.34 | Lunessa | Hell, you give me an option to configure the alret sound, I'll send you a hooker. |
| 21:52.48 | sag_ich_nicht | you can configure the alert sound |
| 21:52.54 | sag_ich_nicht | get SharedMedia |
| 21:52.56 | sag_ich_nicht | nub |
| 21:53.00 | Lunessa | Not in the release I have. :P |
| 21:53.05 | sag_ich_nicht | yes you can |
| 21:53.10 | sag_ich_nicht | get. shared. media. |
| 21:53.16 | Lunessa | I has it. |
| 21:53.47 | sag_ich_nicht | okay |
| 21:53.48 | sag_ich_nicht | then |
| 21:53.50 | sag_ich_nicht | stfu and run WAU |
| 21:53.51 | sag_ich_nicht | nub |
| 21:53.51 | NightHawkTheSane | oh my god i fucking hate meetings. >< |
| 21:54.30 | Lunessa | sag_ich_nicht: no u |
| 21:56.00 | Lunessa | (And in case anyone thinks I'm serious about anything other than the pizza, well... no, the rest is a joke. ) |
| 21:56.13 | sag_ich_nicht | Gngsk you should flame me for the low crit |
| 21:56.13 | sag_ich_nicht | :( |
| 21:58.00 | NightHawkTheSane | jabs his ears out. |
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| 21:59.28 | Rayne | go go slow upload rate! :/ |
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| 22:01.31 | sys_rage | does item loot and money loot get put back on the default chat frame every login for everybody, or is it just cause i refuse to delete my wtf folder? heh |
| 22:02.19 | NightHawkTheSane | there's some annoying chat setting bugs |
| 22:02.34 | NightHawkTheSane | my raid and party chat keeps getting included in chatframe1, despite not being set there |
| 22:02.56 | sys_rage | did you delete your wtf dir after patch? |
| 22:03.00 | NightHawkTheSane | no |
| 22:03.11 | NightHawkTheSane | and like hell i'm going to |
| 22:03.19 | NightHawkTheSane | i've better things to do than spend a day resetting my mods. |
| 22:03.24 | sys_rage | i might just try renaming mine to see if it fixes that stuff. i don't want to either |
| 22:03.34 | sag_ich_nicht | ugh |
| 22:03.35 | sag_ich_nicht | morons |
| 22:03.41 | sag_ich_nicht | i'll delete chatcache |
| 22:03.48 | NightHawkTheSane | yes, i was about to say that :P |
| 22:04.02 | NightHawkTheSane | i was going to try nuking chat-cache.txt next time i log in |
| 22:05.05 | sys_rage | was morons really necessary in this particular situation? |
| 22:05.47 | NightHawkTheSane | don't mind sag_ich_nicht, he's very angry at the fact that he's so much dumber than normal people. :) |
| 22:05.48 | oreth| | seriously... |
| 22:06.03 | oreth| | pedestrians, plebians, or philistines would have worked better in this situation |
| 22:06.29 | Rayne | <3 instant noodles |
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| 22:07.23 | SantaClauss | Hey, could some1 help me to simply create a BASIC addon... Pretty much, just tell me how I can work with Combat Messages .. <.< |
| 22:07.27 | sys_rage | will all my channels/colors be gone if i delete chat-cache? |
| 22:09.07 | sys_rage | since they're listed in there, i'm assuming yes |
| 22:09.53 | Lunessa | SantaClauss: YTou've just asked, "Decribe the contents of the Encyclopedia Britanica in 25 words or less." |
| 22:10.07 | Lunessa | ~pil |
| 22:10.08 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 22:10.18 | Antiarc | Lunessa: Words, words, words. |
| 22:10.22 | Antiarc | Thank you, Shakespeare. |
| 22:10.34 | SantaClauss | The Encyclopedia Britanica contains stuff about the Britanics ? duh |
| 22:10.46 | oreth| | Shakespeare? |
| 22:10.50 | Lunessa | Antiarc: If I didn't love you, I'd have to kill you now. |
| 22:11.05 | oreth| | s/Shakespeare/infinite monkies with infinite typewriters/ |
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| 22:11.32 | SantaClauss | Is each time an event trigger it goes to the <OnEvent/> So it directly goes to MyAddon_OnEvent ?? |
| 22:13.18 | ScytheBlade1 | <OnEvent> in the XML takes the place of MyAddon_OnEvent |
| 22:13.20 | oreth| | can you please rephrase the question using standard American English syntax? |
| 22:13.41 | sys_rage | ya, so deleting chat-cache didn't fix my bug |
| 22:13.43 | ScytheBlade1 | The code that you put in <OnEvent> block is executed |
| 22:13.50 | sys_rage | loot still goes back to main chat window every time i relog |
| 22:17.30 | SantaClauss | For exemple, I simply want to calculate the three damage a WindFury strike would do. So I setup my OnEvent event like this : <OnEvent> MyAddon_OnEvent </OnEvent>. This way, in my MyAddon.lua, I try to calculate the damage it would do. Though, I don't know whats the event I have to search for in my function SantaFury_OnEvent(event)... I've tried many things, but now I'm stuck with : if ( event == "COMBAT_LOG_EVENT" ) then (...) but it never triggers |
| 22:18.49 | foxlit | () |
| 22:19.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Then you didn't register the event |
| 22:19.37 | SantaClauss | then, how could I do that ? :) I guess a little research in Wowwiki will fix it ? |
| 22:19.56 | Industrial | look at other addons |
| 22:20.04 | Industrial | learn lua |
| 22:20.07 | Industrial | wowwiki, pil, etc |
| 22:20.07 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Frame_RegisterEvent http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Parse_Event_Messages |
| 22:21.32 | SantaClauss | Yeah thanks for the Parse stuff, I've tried all of it =P. |
| 22:21.48 | ScytheBlade1 | frame:RegisterEvent("EVENT_NAME") |
| 22:22.31 | SantaClauss | This is in the Xml ? |
| 22:22.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Can be |
| 22:22.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Needs to go in the lua |
| 22:22.57 | oreth| | in the OnLoad... right? |
| 22:23.02 | ScytheBlade1 | If that's a lua block in the XML, or in the the .lua, both work |
| 22:23.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Usually |
| 22:23.15 | ScytheBlade1 | <OnLoad> self:RegisterEvent("EVENT_NAME") </OnLoad> |
| 22:23.40 | oreth| | i stopped coding for wow when i started really spending 9-10 hours a day coding at work |
| 22:24.00 | oreth| | i got to the point I didn't want to sit at my computer when I got home |
| 22:24.01 | SantaClauss | So, in the OnLoad I get self:RegisterEvent("COMBAT_LOG_EVENT") , it will triger my "OnEvent" each time a combat event fire. |
| 22:24.06 | oreth| | so, I bought a 360 |
| 22:24.09 | SantaClauss | Lol :p |
| 22:24.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes |
| 22:24.17 | SantaClauss | Thanks. I'll try this. |
| 22:24.30 | oreth| | and, since then, i've started doing XNA dev... but nothing serious |
| 22:24.50 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 22:24.53 | ScytheBlade1 | funny how that works :P |
| 22:24.56 | oreth| | yeah |
| 22:25.16 | oreth| | weeks that i'm really pounding out code at work, i don't even touch my computer |
| 22:26.52 | kd3 | lmao |
| 22:27.00 | kd3 | just had a shaman solo the last ~20% of kael in normal |
| 22:27.07 | ScytheBlade1 | gg |
| 22:27.09 | Fisker- | old kd3 |
| 22:27.15 | Fisker- | soloed heroic kt from 50% |
| 22:27.18 | Fisker- | well |
| 22:27.18 | ScytheBlade1 | And they call him hard |
| 22:27.20 | Fisker- | duoed actually |
| 22:27.21 | Fisker- | also |
| 22:27.24 | oreth| | yeah? |
| 22:27.28 | Fisker- | soloed kt from 25% on normal |
| 22:27.34 | oreth| | well... I locktanked Archimonde |
| 22:27.49 | oreth| | <-- dirty liar |
| 22:28.00 | SantaClauss | x) |
| 22:30.06 | NightHawkTheSane | to be fair, kt in magister's terrace is probably still harder than the last 50% of kael in tk. :P |
| 22:30.25 | Drundia | with average statistical tank locks tank everything |
| 22:30.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh, agreed |
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| 22:36.29 | zenzelezz | <NightHawkTheSane> to be fair, kt in magister's terrace is probably still harder than the last 50% of kael in tk. :P <--- considering TK Kael doesn't use Mind Control or phoenixes and barely Flamestrike, that's probably true right now |
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| 22:44.48 | sag_ich_nicht | [23:05] <NightHawkTheSane> don't mind sag_ich_nicht, he's very angry at the fact that he's isn't as dumb as normal people. :) <--fixed |
| 22:46.26 | SantaClauss | Is there a fast way to "compare" two string... Actually compar Arg1 with Another given variable which contains text ? |
| 22:47.24 | SantaClauss | I actually tried if ( Arg1 == MyVariable ) then (...)... didnt quite worked |
| 22:48.01 | haste | arg1 ~= Arg1 |
| 22:51.35 | SantaClauss | As of http://www.wowwiki.com/Events/Combat arg1 of COMBAT_LOG_EVENT should actualy hold the strings which apears in the combat log, tho when I try to add it to default chat, it gives me something like 10 number... Could some1 explain me why ? :) |
| 22:52.18 | zenzelezz | "Safari 3.1 For Windows Violates Its Own EULA" o_O |
| 22:52.27 | SantaClauss | Loll |
| 22:52.46 | NightHawkTheSane | zenzelezz: post-50% tk-kael is pretty trivial even with those. :P |
| 22:54.33 | zenzelezz | NightHawkTheSane: depends on your guild |
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| 22:55.02 | NightHawkTheSane | arguably, i guess. |
| 22:55.13 | NightHawkTheSane | we never had problems once we got to that phase |
| 22:55.15 | zenzelezz | not arguably, I know this |
| 22:55.30 | cogumel0 | I know that when you login ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA is triggered, but... if I am listening for that event, does that get called before the code on the "root" of my addon? |
| 22:55.33 | zenzelezz | there are several people in my guild who are living proof |
| 22:55.58 | NightHawkTheSane | zenzelezz: well, by arguably, i mean i have no evidence to support that, but i admit that there may be some i'm not aware of. :) |
| 22:56.28 | zenzelezz | fair enough |
| 22:56.30 | NightHawkTheSane | i guess idiocy does know no bounds, though. |
| 22:56.46 | dylanm_ | cogumel0: You could watch for PLAYER_LOGIN as well. You probably have to anyway. You should be getting ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA thought. Shouldn't be a problem. |
| 22:58.21 | cogumel0 | nevermind! missspelled a word... DUH |
| 22:58.36 | cogumel0 | it was telling me my table index was nil -.- |
| 23:03.52 | zenzelezz | lol... so I was on a unrealscript coding mailing list ages ago, it's pretty much been dead for years... and today I get another digest mail from it. Only message it contains? "1. Re: SALE 79% OFF" |
| 23:05.16 | NightHawkTheSane | this is neat http://www.flickr.com/photos/liberoliber/14352085/sizes/o/ |
| 23:06.06 | SantaClauss | Tehee, |
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| 23:11.09 | zenzelezz | so I got my engineering to 375 the other day, thought "phew, that's that done". Then, today, I browse through my skill tab and see "375/390" x.x |
| 23:11.28 | oreth| | Yeah.. World of Warcraft is pretty cool and all... but have y ouguys played Peggle? |
| 23:11.28 | zenzelezz | now it doesn't *really* matter... but I like to max all my skills :-x |
| 23:12.13 | Guillotine | Damn gnome |
| 23:12.56 | SantaClauss | With 2.4 out, how can I get the actual Output of the action I've just done with COMBAT_LOG_EVENT. I'd like to know if my windFury just proc... |
| 23:13.50 | NightHawkTheSane | zenzelezz: the hidden curse of being a gnome? :P |
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| 23:34.24 | Rayne | Wow. |
| 23:34.40 | Rayne | Burnt Black Cherry original doesnt have any problems once updated. O_o |
| 23:34.51 | Rayne | I thought Alphablending and such would have gone nuts... |
| 23:37.20 | art3mis | http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/03/27/823924.aspx |
| 23:43.47 | bleeter | Robot Mount from SPLAT5? |
| 23:44.18 | Cairenn|afk | Rayne: ping? |
| 23:47.01 | WobWork | ... |
| 23:47.03 | WobWork | I... |
| 23:47.06 | WobWork | have ... no words |
| 23:47.07 | WobWork | http://www.smh.com.au/news/unusual-tales/nz-man-jailed-for-wombat-rape-claim/2008/03/28/1206207344849.html |
| 23:47.45 | Cairenn|afk | ROFL! |
| 23:48.58 | ScytheBlade1 | "Mr Stringer said alcohol had played a big part in Cradock's life." |
| 23:49.00 | ScytheBlade1 | REALLY. |
| 23:55.39 | Cairenn|afk | pokes Rayne |
