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| 00:03.15 | Cide | that seems like a generic list for all domains served by the mail server |
| 00:03.24 | Cide | you can't filter it by domain I'm guessing? |
| 00:03.49 | Josh_Borke | hm, no, you can |
| 00:03.53 | Josh_Borke | just not sure off of the top of my head |
| 00:05.04 | Josh_Borke | and by off the top of my head i mean at all |
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| 00:08.12 | Shirik | about to see what my mp5 is raid buffed... |
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| 00:09.22 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, you're just sick. *hug* |
| 00:09.34 | Shirik | if the mages would give me int.... |
| 00:14.21 | sag_ich_nicht | http://bash.org/?849884 READ THIS AND THEN STFU ABOUT THE WAY I DEAL WITH PEOPLE KTHX |
| 00:14.23 | sag_ich_nicht | 8D |
| 00:15.12 | Shirik | 833 mp5 |
| 00:15.13 | Shirik | omg |
| 00:15.28 | Josh_Borke | zomg |
| 00:15.50 | Corrodias | eh? |
| 00:16.03 | Corrodias | bug? |
| 00:16.10 | Maldivia | shirik... then wait till you get innervated |
| 00:17.30 | Cide | Josh_Borke: do you know if /etc/postfix/virtual supports the same thing as alises? i.e. "|executable"? |
| 00:17.53 | Nechckn | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:18.23 | Josh_Borke | cide: no, sorry, i don't know |
| 00:18.24 | Nechckn | pastey.net is popping some sql errors and such |
| 00:18.31 | Cide | Josh_Borke: alright, thanks anyway |
| 00:18.44 | WobWork | - Hunters will no longer spin around if they cast Aimed Shot or Steady Shot while facing away from their target. |
| 00:18.46 | WobWork | ... |
| 00:18.52 | WobWork | oh |
| 00:18.59 | WobWork | while facing away. |
| 00:19.11 | Josh_Borke | reading comprehension ftl |
| 00:19.12 | WobWork | The actual turn to follow a still moving target is still in, though? |
| 00:19.13 | Corrodias | i could see this being an issue during Aran, although i think it happened to me and it didn't set off the wreath |
| 00:19.20 | AnduinLothar | judement of command and consecration are officialy useless to ret. zero spell dmg |
| 00:19.26 | Cide | WobWork: why should it, to be honest? |
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| 00:19.36 | Josh_Borke | AnduinLothar: eh? |
| 00:19.45 | Cide | non-channeling spells don't for other classes |
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| 00:19.55 | AnduinLothar | josh, not worth the mana |
| 00:19.56 | WobWork | aimed and steady are channelde |
| 00:20.04 | Cide | ... |
| 00:20.13 | Cide | are they? that doesn't make any sense whatsoever |
| 00:20.15 | Corrodias | they aren't |
| 00:20.17 | WobWork | okay. 'channeled' |
| 00:20.23 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Thrae|Work (n=Thrae|Wo@63.169.70.126) |
| 00:20.30 | Josh_Borke | wobin doesn't know what he's smoking and should just go back to work |
| 00:20.34 | WobWork | pft |
| 00:20.38 | Shirik | this is so awesome... |
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| 00:20.40 | kd3 | updated the 2.4 sticky to mention the chat/combat filters getting reset bug |
| 00:20.42 | Josh_Borke | ~failrik |
| 00:20.43 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 00:20.43 | Shirik | I don't run outo f mana, I'm like a paladin >< |
| 00:20.48 | Shirik | granted we're only doing mag right now |
| 00:20.50 | WobWork | Josh_Borke is never any help anyway |
| 00:20.56 | Josh_Borke | it's true, i'm not |
| 00:21.18 | WobWork | ~lart Josh_Borke |
| 00:21.18 | purl | DoSes Josh_Borke |
| 00:21.20 | Cide | being helpful is overrated |
| 00:21.31 | Josh_Borke | it really is |
| 00:21.37 | Josh_Borke | it's more fun to be an asshole |
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| 00:22.30 | WobWork | actually, I don't know why aimed and steady act as channeled spells |
| 00:22.36 | WobWork | but it's useful |
| 00:23.00 | Maldivia | kd3: hmm, I don't have any problems with the settings getting reset... but chatframe1 always registers for whisper/guild/etc on load, no matter what chat-settings are set to :| |
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| 00:23.12 | kd3 | yah, that's what I meant |
| 00:27.24 | WobWork | hm, did they remove the MS debuff on firetongue? |
| 00:27.33 | WobWork | Or did that just not make it in, but is still in TTR etc |
| 00:27.50 | Cide | they removed it |
| 00:28.35 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm, is x-perl updated for 2.4, or does it work fine as is? |
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| 00:31.10 | WobWork | -Removed the level requirement from the expert fishing book, The Bass and You. |
| 00:31.14 | WobWork | that's interesting |
| 00:31.48 | dylanm | They didn't sneak in the instant AH scan did they? |
| 00:33.13 | WobWork | in auctioneer? |
| 00:33.32 | WobWork | cause that's been in auctioneer for a long time now |
| 00:33.37 | MentalPower | ./aadv getall |
| 00:33.53 | dylanm | I mean, does the function work now |
| 00:34.01 | MentalPower | still causes DCs on some people, hence why its not default yet |
| 00:34.04 | dylanm | That they were going to put in last +.1 |
| 00:34.06 | MentalPower | dylanm: its worked since 2.3.2 |
| 00:34.12 | dylanm | Really? |
| 00:34.15 | MentalPower | yeah |
| 00:34.27 | dylanm | Thought it was completely disabled. Now it just rolls the dice eh? |
| 00:34.41 | MentalPower | it was disabled in 2.3.0 |
| 00:34.45 | MentalPower | and re-enabled in 2.3.2 |
| 00:35.12 | WobWork | I <3 getall |
| 00:35.25 | MentalPower | me too :) |
| 00:35.48 | dylanm | This spell linking thing in trade |
| 00:35.55 | dylanm | is going to make me crazy by the end of the day. |
| 00:36.08 | MentalPower | it will blow off |
| 00:36.42 | dylanm | In this matter I am as impatient as most of your users. |
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| 00:37.36 | End | hmm Bigwigs nags me every time I get a ZONE_CHANGED event |
| 00:38.26 | End | unfortunately, I was getting that event a lot in hellfire |
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| 00:40.08 | WobWork | - Non-corporeal Undead and Mechanical creatures are now susceptible to bleed effects. |
| 00:40.09 | WobWork | omg |
| 00:40.11 | WobWork | <3 |
| 00:40.32 | Seerah | <3 |
| 00:40.58 | WobWork | also: - Gems obtained through Heroic difficulty instances are no longer Unique-equipped. |
| 00:41.11 | WobWork | I had a unique equipped stuck in my bank waiting for gear upgrades =P |
| 00:41.15 | WobWork | (spare) |
| 00:41.20 | End | I had two |
| 00:41.26 | End | I don't have them in the bank anymore |
| 00:41.57 | WobWork | hehe, kara is the new ubrs |
| 00:42.08 | WobWork | (lf1m for kara, must have key!) |
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| 00:44.03 | Dezzimal | anyone having a problem with omen's screen edge flash not turning off? |
| 00:44.10 | Thrae|Work | Great, I'm in the middle of crap and now 2.4 comes out |
| 00:44.43 | JoshBorke | ~comfort Thrae |
| 00:44.44 | purl | There, there, Thrae. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 00:44.45 | dylanm | Hi Thrae|Work. |
| 00:46.48 | WobWork | I like the master loot sparkle changes |
| 00:48.19 | WobWork | - Saber/Tiger Mounts will now make footprints when walking backwards in snow. |
| 00:48.20 | WobWork | hehe |
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| 00:48.24 | WobWork | it's the little things |
| 00:48.34 | WobWork | although did they fix the number of toes? |
| 00:51.11 | Shirik | omg |
| 00:51.13 | Shirik | we went into hyjal |
| 00:51.18 | Shirik | with the brilliance aura I have 1404 mp5 |
| 00:52.29 | WobWork | interesting |
| 00:52.41 | WobWork | Swipe did -not- get the 'avoid cc' change? |
| 00:52.57 | Shirik | 1219 spirit |
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| 00:52.58 | Shirik | lol |
| 00:53.47 | End | WobWork: I heard that change was reverted |
| 00:53.52 | End | for all chain target abilities |
| 00:54.22 | dylanm | Yep. |
| 00:54.59 | WobWork | =( |
| 00:55.04 | WobWork | That was a kinda cool change |
| 00:55.15 | WobWork | Not that I'm tanking anymore =P |
| 00:56.33 | WobWork | - Snake Trap will no longer affect non-combat flagged players. |
| 00:56.35 | WobWork | aw =P |
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| 00:58.31 | Shirik | ok... I take it back, I wasn't raid buffed |
| 00:58.31 | WobWork | are the primal vortexes still badgebuyable? and what is their bind status? |
| 00:58.33 | Shirik | 1659 MP5 |
| 00:58.37 | Shirik | I think they overdid it slightly |
| 00:59.14 | kd3 | wob; boe |
| 00:59.33 | WobWork | kd3: and badgeable? |
| 00:59.48 | kd3 | ya |
| 01:00.04 | WobWork | . o O ("Badge it, badge it, badge it, badge it, badge it, badge it, badge it, badge it, badge it, badge it, badge it, badge it... mushroom! mushroom!") |
| 01:00.13 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 01:00.15 | WobWork | yay, dragonmaw |
| 01:00.16 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 01:01.22 | WobWork | er dragonstrike |
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| 01:10.59 | Lunessa | Ugh... Need 65 more badges to buy Nether Vortexii. |
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| 01:11.22 | Lunessa | Yes - I know I misspelled it. It's a joke. |
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| 01:16.56 | WobWork | Lunessa: I'd wait til the price in the AH stabilises =) |
| 01:17.55 | Lunessa | *shrug* I need the ones from SSC+ not Primal Nether. |
| 01:18.27 | WobWork | no primal vortexes are also badge buyable now |
| 01:18.34 | Lunessa | Yes. 15 badges a pop |
| 01:18.36 | WobWork | er boe |
| 01:18.41 | WobWork | (aren't they?) |
| 01:18.52 | Lunessa | no, I think those are still BoP |
| 01:19.08 | WobWork | no they're boe |
| 01:19.48 | Nom- | But they're not equipable, how can they be boe |
| 01:19.48 | Nom- | :P |
| 01:19.58 | Nom- | Just teasing :) |
| 01:20.08 | WobWork | rofl win: http://google.com/trends |
| 01:20.09 | Dotted | is away (kd3 - whee squid just went splat) |
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| 01:24.28 | MentalPower | 8 of the top 10 google searches are WoW addon related |
| 01:26.02 | WobWork | even CTMod out does Obama Tax Returns =P |
| 01:29.12 | kandoko | We're 39th :( |
| 01:29.33 | JoshBorke | that's pretty cool |
| 01:29.34 | Cide | even ctmod, eh... |
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| 01:33.30 | Nom- | lol |
| 01:33.34 | Nom- | curse has been hammered into the ground :) |
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| 01:37.28 | art3mis | anyone on presently that has a linode account? |
| 01:37.49 | MentalPower | Shirik: does |
| 01:37.56 | Shirik | ? |
| 01:38.12 | Shirik | in hyjal atm, what do you need? |
| 01:38.15 | art3mis | you have a web interface thingy for yer linode account right? |
| 01:38.17 | MentalPower | oh wait, wrong S-name |
| 01:38.29 | MentalPower | ScytheBlade1: does :) |
| 01:38.38 | MentalPower | friggin tab-complete |
| 01:38.41 | Shirik | yes |
| 01:38.43 | art3mis | yeah shirik does too though doesnt he? |
| 01:38.49 | Shirik | I do |
| 01:38.50 | Shirik | and yes it does |
| 01:38.55 | MentalPower | oh, nm then |
| 01:39.01 | art3mis | anychance i can borrow yer login and stuff for a sec to check a few things? |
| 01:39.03 | Guillotin1 | Err, did anyone else have settings wiped with this patch? Such as UI scale? |
| 01:39.30 | art3mis | im setting up the same sorta deal on here but the dom0 domU stuff is confusing so i wanna see how they list thier servers for you to see |
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| 01:39.56 | art3mis | just the web part |
| 01:40.02 | art3mis | i dont care about the serverunderneath |
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| 01:40.45 | Shirik | just a sec to finish this encounter |
| 01:40.52 | art3mis | k |
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| 01:42.31 | p3lim | running 2.4 mods on 2.3 is really messy hehehe |
| 01:49.56 | End | noooes |
| 01:49.59 | End | my server went down |
| 01:50.02 | End | stupid bonechewer! |
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| 01:50.15 | Rayne | O_o |
| 01:51.30 | Rayne | god I give up |
| 01:51.48 | End | indeed? |
| 01:52.14 | Rayne | Yeah. |
| 01:52.22 | End | I see. |
| 01:52.25 | End | quiter! |
| 01:52.30 | Rayne | The two primary dogtags I kept in my UI wont work :< |
| 01:52.37 | End | ah |
| 01:52.39 | End | yeah |
| 01:52.41 | End | gg dogtags |
| 01:52.44 | Rayne | and I wont want to turn back on my ugly Leader / Master Looter tags. :/ |
| 01:52.45 | End | it thinks I'm offline |
| 01:52.46 | Rayne | er |
| 01:52.47 | Rayne | Icons |
| 01:54.29 | kergoth | any advice on the third boss in magister's terrace? she's kicking our ass |
| 01:54.47 | kd3 | cc what you can, don't split dps. nuke targets down |
| 01:55.00 | kd3 | it's just like moroes |
| 01:55.02 | Rayne | What kd3 said. |
| 01:55.10 | Rayne | Low CC groups are really bad for that place. |
| 01:55.11 | kergoth | yeah, thats what i thought, dunno why we're having so much trouble |
| 01:55.14 | kergoth | we have two hunters |
| 01:55.17 | kergoth | should be able to manage it |
| 01:55.22 | Rayne | The boss is also random agro if you didnt notice. |
| 01:55.29 | kergoth | but the warlord busts off an intimidating shout right off the bat and fucks us |
| 01:55.32 | kergoth | or whatever else |
| 01:55.33 | Rayne | She kept beating on my warlock who was chain banishing an add. :/ |
| 01:55.44 | kergoth | heh, we noticed |
| 01:56.41 | Shirik | query art3mis |
| 01:56.42 | Shirik | oops |
| 01:57.20 | Rayne | So long ' [Name] [(AFK or DND:Angle LeaderShort:Paren (MasterLooter ? Text(ML):Paren))] ShortClassification:Paren] ', I knew ye well |
| 01:57.22 | Rayne | :< |
| 01:57.26 | kergoth | why are these fucks immune to distracting shot also, thats what i want to know |
| 01:57.31 | kergoth | i think its just to screw wiht me |
| 01:58.21 | Stanzilla | Rayne: Text(ML) is "ML" now |
| 01:58.27 | Stanzilla | with the quotes |
| 01:59.12 | Rayne | Stanzilla: Either way, its showing everyone as ML right now. |
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| 02:02.35 | sag_ich_nicht | EU realms shutdown completed. |
| 02:03.46 | Cairenn | sag_ich_nicht: now comes the waiting, hey? |
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| 02:05.22 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o Iriel] by ChanServ |
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| 02:09.08 | sag_ich_nicht | ya |
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| 02:20.23 | Shirik | ... |
| 02:20.30 | Shirik | our entire raid is filled with people playing with the new hawkstrider sound |
| 02:20.40 | Shirik | all you can hear is "eerrww" |
| 02:21.20 | Tem|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:21.26 | Shirik | not jealous |
| 02:21.28 | Shirik | it's so annoying >< |
| 02:21.31 | Shirik | and I'm a blood elf! |
| 02:21.38 | Tem|Work | wtb 2 legged alliance mounts other than rare instance drops |
| 02:21.58 | sag_ich_nicht | so |
| 02:22.05 | Shirik | eerrwwwww |
| 02:22.07 | sag_ich_nicht | what is it with those claims |
| 02:22.08 | Shirik | eeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrwwwwwwwww |
| 02:22.11 | sag_ich_nicht | of wallclimbing being fixed |
| 02:22.13 | sag_ich_nicht | or broken |
| 02:22.16 | sag_ich_nicht | or whatever |
| 02:22.20 | sag_ich_nicht | what the hell did they do. |
| 02:22.29 | Tem|Work | haven't heard any such claims myself |
| 02:22.57 | Tem|Work | however, trolling /trade with "So epic flying price is reduced to 2500g" was hillarious today |
| 02:23.10 | Tem|Work | the tells I got were priceless |
| 02:23.11 | sag_ich_nicht | okay someone alliance do me a favor and go to ironforge to the back of the pillar to the right of the bank(when facing the bank) and tell me if there is still a zone change to dun morogh |
| 02:23.23 | Tem|Work | no |
| 02:23.24 | Tem|Work | fuck IF |
| 02:23.43 | sag_ich_nicht | look |
| 02:23.49 | sag_ich_nicht | this is very important. |
| 02:23.51 | sag_ich_nicht | go check it. |
| 02:24.07 | Tem|Work | ... |
| 02:24.09 | Tem|Work | no |
| 02:24.16 | sag_ich_nicht | ugh |
| 02:26.23 | Tem|Work | also |
| 02:26.24 | Tem|Work | I'm at work |
| 02:26.29 | Tem|Work | can't readily log into wow |
| 02:26.48 | sag_ich_nicht | :( |
| 02:34.26 | Pac | can any1 tell me how to get every thing to show up in wuu so i can update my mods |
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| 02:36.58 | Lunessa | *sigh* people posting on alts to remain anonymous /should turn off their damned .sig file/ ! |
| 02:37.14 | sag_ich_nicht | Lunessa is a usenet user. |
| 02:37.29 | Lunessa | Lunessa is old. |
| 02:39.59 | sag_ich_nicht | in b4 plonk |
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| 02:45.49 | art3mis | how do i enable method GET in apache2 again? |
| 02:47.27 | kergoth | woo, finaly downloaded that damn 3rd boss |
| 02:47.28 | kergoth | fuckers |
| 02:48.31 | kd3 | whee |
| 02:48.36 | kd3 | first KT kill, the pet drops |
| 02:51.06 | Shirik | wow, gaining money in Hyjal |
| 02:51.11 | Shirik | 10g per boss kill... |
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| 02:54.49 | Nom- | sweet |
| 02:54.54 | Nom- | hope all bosses are like that |
| 02:54.56 | Nom- | need gold |
| 02:55.00 | dylanm | Yeah we're going to be rolling in gold I think. |
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| 02:59.54 | Cide | http://gizmodo.com/367698/technosexual-one-mans-tale-of-robot-love |
| 03:03.06 | Guillotin1 | Err, did I miss something saying that Spell tooltips were disabled/ |
| 03:03.23 | Guillotin1 | strange, it just doesn't work from the combat log |
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| 03:07.28 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+v cogwheel] by ChanServ |
| 03:07.40 | Iriel | Hm, does the log create it in the right format (as a tooltip, not just text) ? |
| 03:07.54 | Iriel | and does it install a hyperlink handler? |
| 03:09.24 | Guillotine | not sure. I know it used to work |
| 03:09.43 | Guillotine | This is really wierd. Huge framerate drop every time I switch gear. Can't think of any reason an addon would do that because of the changes o.O |
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| 03:27.42 | kd3 | meh... not bad. ~8 hours in and I'm already 2/6k friendly |
| 03:29.41 | Cide | are the quests fun? I haven't done 'em at all |
| 03:30.14 | NightHawkTheSane | when they're not overcamped, yeah |
| 03:30.20 | Cide | I'll wait then |
| 03:30.26 | kd3 | blood for blood and the gathering quest suck |
| 03:30.40 | NightHawkTheSane | if you have no rush to get high rep or anything, it probably is best to wait |
| 03:30.41 | kd3 | everything else will respect the rate at which things are getting killed and scale respawn appropriately |
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| 03:43.46 | kd3 | lmfao @ the arena tournament entry requirements |
| 03:43.54 | kd3 | "Canadian residents are not required to pay an Entry Fee in order to enter. Instead, Canadian residents may enter by submitting a 250 word typewritten essay comparing the video gaming culture in Canada to the video gaming culture in the United States" |
| 03:44.03 | kd3 | ahahahaha... wonder if it's hit the forums yet |
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| 03:48.42 | Cide | link |
| 03:50.45 | kd3 | https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/account/tournament-upgrade.html |
| 03:50.57 | kd3 | you'll have to log in, then hit next once |
| 03:51.31 | Cide | haha |
| 03:51.34 | Cide | that's awesome |
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| 03:56.42 | ScytheBlade1 | A haha. I just linked Death Touch in trade. |
| 03:56.47 | ScytheBlade1 | I am a terrible, terrible person. |
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| 03:57.08 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm |
| 03:57.17 | NightHawkTheSane | does anyone else see a 2 week reset timer on gruuls, or other instances? :P |
| 03:57.52 | Rayne | NightHawkTheSane: Id check but my SSC group couldnt friggin down hydross tonight. |
| 03:57.55 | Nom- | seriously ? |
| 03:58.18 | Rayne | Everyone was too busy whining about mods and lag that we just wiped all night, and talking about the new instances that we have no chance of getting to |
| 03:58.45 | Nom- | instance you mean |
| 03:58.55 | Nom- | If you can't do magister's terrace, then you're a scrub guild :p |
| 04:00.37 | Rayne | I meant Sunwell. |
| 04:00.53 | Nom- | heh |
| 04:00.55 | Rayne | 5/6 3/4, were about midpack |
| 04:01.04 | NightHawkTheSane | we just zoned into gruul and saw "This raid instance is scheduled to reset in 12 days 22 Hours." |
| 04:01.23 | gnorlish | magtheridon was a 2 day reset until we killed him |
| 04:01.26 | gnorlish | then it corrected |
| 04:02.29 | NightHawkTheSane | intersting |
| 04:02.55 | ScytheBlade1 | A hahah @ canadian entry |
| 04:03.11 | WobWork | hehe |
| 04:03.22 | WobWork | "What I want to do on my holiday - An Essay" |
| 04:03.36 | Nom- | intesting... |
| 04:03.42 | Nom- | That'll probably get hotfixed tonight' |
| 04:03.48 | Nom- | In the middle of our effing raid |
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| 04:04.23 | Nom- | I suppose it could be intentional tho |
| 04:04.33 | Nom- | To prevent T6 guilds from farming gold off them too much |
| 04:04.41 | Nom- | But it screws over newbie guilds trying to gear up |
| 04:05.56 | Nom- | Why does a fist weapon set have to be for shamans? |
| 04:06.04 | Nom- | The offhand is fast enough to be rogue suitable imo |
| 04:06.22 | Nom- | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/thefistsoffury.jpg <-- mmo-champion calls that a shaman set |
| 04:08.02 | NightHawkTheSane | no shaman would use that oh |
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| 04:08.52 | Nom- | That's what I thought... I thought they go for slowest possible on both for big windfury pwnage |
| 04:09.18 | Nom- | So mmo-champion is just retarded for calling that a shaman set then |
| 04:09.20 | Nom- | Oh well |
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| 04:09.53 | NightHawkTheSane | yes, pretty much |
| 04:09.55 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* |
| 04:10.25 | NightHawkTheSane | the MH might be nice, i dunno, but yeah, you want a slow oh |
| 04:10.28 | Nom- | yay my mage will finally have some stamina today |
| 04:10.36 | Nom- | After I go get the blue pvp set |
| 04:11.09 | Nom- | and my druid will have access to some heal gear when hitting 70 |
| 04:11.11 | Nom- | sweet |
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| 04:15.27 | WobWork | That's such a rogue set |
| 04:15.35 | Nom- | I concur. |
| 04:15.45 | WobWork | it'd be nicer with 1.4 as the offhand |
| 04:15.51 | WobWork | but 1.5 is still pretty good |
| 04:16.38 | WobWork | When is S2 becoming available to honour purchase? |
| 04:16.48 | WobWork | ( or rather, when's the next season? ) |
| 04:17.08 | Guillotin1 | In a long time |
| 04:17.11 | Guillotin1 | supposedly |
| 04:17.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Guillotin1: did they start filtering what you can put in guild notes? |
| 04:17.26 | Guillotine | no :) |
| 04:17.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Guillotine: I can't put a spell link or a star in there |
| 04:17.50 | ScytheBlade1 | "Internal Guild Error" |
| 04:17.54 | Guillotine | Seriously? |
| 04:18.00 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:18.12 | ScytheBlade1 | said global is a string containing a texture path to the star |
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| 04:19.08 | Guillotine | Could be there was a change between the version on the PTR last night and what went out today |
| 04:19.50 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:19.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Also gives an internal guild error |
| 04:20.11 | Guillotine | well, looks like they may have fixed it just before release |
| 04:20.25 | ScytheBlade1 | That is utterly depressing |
| 04:20.29 | ScytheBlade1 | As I can still do colors |
| 04:22.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Icons work in the gmotd though |
| 04:27.06 | Guillotine | oh |
| 04:27.11 | Guillotine | I know what it i |
| 04:27.13 | Guillotine | is* |
| 04:27.14 | ScytheBlade1 | ? |
| 04:27.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Because uh |
| 04:27.26 | ScytheBlade1 | I want to set my guild note to video mimic :P |
| 04:27.38 | Guillotine | the max length of notes is far lower than the MOTD |
| 04:27.45 | Guillotine | and your texture thing exceeded the note length |
| 04:27.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm, entirely possible |
| 04:28.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Now to see |
| 04:30.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Boo, if you click on the gmotd it just shows it as text to edit, can't link :( |
| 04:31.23 | Cide | click on it in the ui, yeah, but what about in /gmotd? |
| 04:32.56 | ScytheBlade1 | That should work |
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| 04:40.43 | Fisker- | oh yeah |
| 04:40.50 | Fisker- | i gotta screw with the gmotd when it comes up again |
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| 04:52.12 | Arrowmaster | so somebody should delete this 'Fubar LocationFu Default Minimap Position Fix' on WOWI since its an old version of LocationFu with like 2 lines changed, and LocationFu has been completely changed since then |
| 04:53.07 | Cairenn | consider it gone |
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| 04:53.59 | Cairenn | actually, you know |
| 04:54.14 | Cairenn | this is the second version of it on the site, and it's had 2k downloads |
| 04:54.23 | Cairenn | not like it's brand new |
| 04:55.15 | Cairenn | it may be pointless, but that's up to the author to decide they want to remove it |
| 04:55.51 | Arrowmaster | well its r55569.16 with 2 lines removed, removing Jostle-2.0 from it |
| 04:56.12 | Cairenn | send a PM to the person that uploaded it |
| 04:56.26 | Arrowmaster | tell me how to get to the real site then |
| 04:56.29 | Cairenn | actually, I'll do it |
| 04:56.35 | Arrowmaster | nvm |
| 04:56.37 | Arrowmaster | found the link |
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| 05:06.06 | gomenster | Does anyone know the variable to use in an addon's .lua file to get the current character name? |
| 05:06.39 | ScytheBlade1 | GetUnitName("player") |
| 05:07.01 | Arrowmaster | UnitName("player") |
| 05:07.08 | ScytheBlade1 | blinks |
| 05:07.15 | ScytheBlade1 | blames the migraine he woke up with |
| 05:07.39 | WobWork | Is that your affectionate name for your wife? |
| 05:07.46 | ScytheBlade1 | wanders around, looking for the lortab |
| 05:07.48 | MentalPower | :| |
| 05:07.58 | ScytheBlade1 | WobWork: yeah, a 19 year old with a wife. Good times. |
| 05:08.00 | ScytheBlade1 | WobWork: ... |
| 05:08.06 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:08.26 | WobWork | ScytheBlade1: my best friend's wife is just turning 21 |
| 05:08.34 | WobWork | 19 isn't unknown =P |
| 05:08.39 | ScytheBlade1 | 19 year old male, I should be specific |
| 05:08.56 | WobWork | One of my friends married straight out of highschool, so both were 18 |
| 05:09.04 | ScytheBlade1 | I know some people who did that |
| 05:09.06 | ScytheBlade1 | They scare me |
| 05:09.27 | WobWork | They're either really well put together |
| 05:09.32 | WobWork | or completely crazy |
| 05:09.47 | WobWork | I think, luckily in this case, they were well put together in terms of maturity |
| 05:09.55 | ScytheBlade1 | In every case but one that I know of, the latter |
| 05:10.17 | WobWork | In this case, he'd gone through chemo at a relatively young age |
| 05:10.25 | WobWork | which tends to make you grow up rather quickly |
| 05:10.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah |
| 05:10.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
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| 05:12.35 | kd3 | meh. 1400 rep a run, not bad |
| 05:16.23 | NightHawkTheSane | shit, 8 badges, a handful of gems, and what.. 40-50g for a half hours worth of work doing mag/gruul |
| 05:16.46 | Shirik | it's pretty hot |
| 05:16.55 | Shirik | I can't believe I actually /made/ money at hyjal today |
| 05:17.01 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe |
| 05:17.08 | Sixen | Hai2u Kd3. |
| 05:17.17 | kd3 | 'lo |
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| 05:19.30 | NightHawkTheSane | also, i cant believe how trivial mag is |
| 05:19.46 | kd3 | how badly did they nerf him? |
| 05:20.12 | NightHawkTheSane | horribly |
| 05:20.23 | NightHawkTheSane | the main thing is that the cube debuff is only 30s |
| 05:20.35 | NightHawkTheSane | so really, you need 5 clickers, a tank, and a healer or two. :P |
| 05:20.41 | kd3 | lmao |
| 05:20.49 | kd3 | so they really are trying to turn him in to BC onyxia |
| 05:21.00 | Sixen | Rofl |
| 05:21.03 | NightHawkTheSane | i think onyxia is still harder than mag is now. ;) |
| 05:21.10 | Sixen | In order to get into the Tourny Realm from Canada, you need to submit an essay |
| 05:21.11 | WobWork | "more do.. eh, just melee her a bit"? |
| 05:21.13 | NightHawkTheSane | i hear she deep breaths more :P |
| 05:21.20 | WobWork | Sixen: yeah =) |
| 05:21.24 | kd3 | meh. I need to mage tank onyxia again |
| 05:21.26 | kd3 | it's been a while |
| 05:21.28 | Sixen | Canadian residents are not required to pay an Entry Fee in order to enter. Instead, Canadian residents may enter by submitting a 250 word typewritten essay comparing the video gaming culture in Canada to the video gaming culture in the United States on 8 1/2 x 11 inch paper and mailing their essay to Essay Entry for The North American Blizzard Entertainment Arena Tournament |
| 05:21.31 | Sixen | Kinda funny. |
| 05:21.48 | Sixen | And let me make sure i'm reading this right... |
| 05:21.50 | NightHawkTheSane | is that serious? |
| 05:21.56 | Sixen | (D) WHO ARE NOT RESIDENTS OF THE US STATES OF ARIZONA, CONNECTICUT, NORTH DAKOTA, MARYLAND OR VERMONT OR THE PROVINCE OF QUEBEC, CANADA OR RESIDENTS OF THE AUSTRALIAN STATES OF VICTORIA, QUEENSLAND OR THE AUSTRALIAN CAPITAL TERRITORY (THE "ELIGIBLE PARTICIPANTS) |
| 05:21.57 | kd3 | it's serious |
| 05:21.59 | Sixen | Yes, lawl. |
| 05:22.00 | kd3 | I quoted it in here earlier |
| 05:22.01 | WobWork | totally |
| 05:22.05 | NightHawkTheSane | thats seriously the most awesome thing ever. |
| 05:22.13 | Sixen | That means people in thos estatest aren't eligible? |
| 05:22.15 | WobWork | It's to do with gambling and competitions involving money |
| 05:22.20 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Arena_Tournament&curid=159603&diff=1281085&oldid=1256145 |
| 05:22.20 | WobWork | Sixen: yes |
| 05:22.25 | Sixen | Gay... |
| 05:22.29 | WobWork | cause they haven't gotten the licenceing within those states yet |
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| 05:22.38 | Sixen | lawl |
| 05:22.40 | Sixen | That's gay. |
| 05:23.03 | Sixen | And what exact does that mean? |
| 05:23.25 | WobWork | Each of those states has certain mandates that require registration when offering a competition that results in a cash prize |
| 05:23.36 | WobWork | and they have to follow certain laws |
| 05:23.40 | Sixen | Ouch |
| 05:23.46 | Sixen | I live in AZ, I can't play, :(. |
| 05:23.55 | WobWork | so the TR may or may not qualify in those states |
| 05:52.34 | Fisker- | slaps WobWork around a bit with a large trout |
| 05:53.20 | Shirik | So the attunement they removed |
| 05:53.26 | Shirik | was it both hyjal AND bt or just hyjal? |
| 05:55.44 | Nom- | both |
| 05:55.51 | Nom- | theoreticallyu |
| 05:56.28 | Nom- | Wouldn't be so bad if they just removed Hyjal tho |
| 05:56.42 | Nom- | I mean, if you can't kill Al'ar and Rage Winterchill, you have no business being in BT |
| 05:56.45 | Nom- | :) |
| 05:57.06 | Nom- | Howver not being able to kill Kael or Vashj shouldn't be the end of raiding |
| 05:59.48 | Shirik | But I don't feel like killing him >< |
| 06:00.23 | Fisker- | hey |
| 06:00.31 | Fisker- | who says you can't kill al'ar and rage winterchill? |
| 06:00.39 | WobWork | Your mom |
| 06:00.42 | Fisker- | perhaps it is just karathress you can't kill! |
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| 06:05.37 | Shirik | I love no-purpose comments :P |
| 06:05.39 | Shirik | retval[i] = (byte)((equivalent >> 2^(len*8-8)) % 256);// More magic |
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| 06:14.41 | Nom- | lol |
| 06:14.44 | Nom- | Karathress = ezmode |
| 06:14.45 | Nom- | :) |
| 06:14.50 | NightHawkTheSane | I like how our priests have more while-casting regen than me, and y et with 3 spriests in the raid, i dont even get one., |
| 06:15.11 | Nom- | My point is that guilds on 3/4 TK and 5/6 SSC shouldn't really be restricted from MH/BT imo |
| 06:15.18 | Shirik | wow I'm an imbicile |
| 06:15.21 | Nom- | The faction items are nice |
| 06:15.23 | Nom- | But still... |
| 06:15.26 | Shirik | I yell at languages all the time for using ^ as a power operator |
| 06:15.32 | Shirik | then I go in Java and use it, when it's not one |
| 06:15.41 | Nom- | lol java uses ** doesn't it ? |
| 06:16.28 | Fisker- | roars |
| 06:16.32 | Shirik | does it have that option? |
| 06:16.34 | Shirik | Math.pow() exists |
| 06:16.40 | Shirik | and that's what it should be |
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| 06:19.20 | Atriace | I'm in denial right now, I think... |
| 06:19.56 | Atriace | Why would Blizzard deny us the ability to see target's health count? |
| 06:20.47 | Atriace | There must be some way to determine it. Somebody has to have thought of a way (I hope) |
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| 06:21.32 | Iriel | You mean the thing that UnitHealth has been trying to protect since the beginning of time? |
| 06:21.53 | Atriace | Yeah... that. Seems trivial. |
| 06:22.34 | Atriace | It'd be nice to have at least a rhyme (if no reason exists) |
| 06:26.35 | Shirik | blizzard just doesn't want you to know the target's actual hp |
| 06:26.37 | Shirik | that's about it |
| 06:26.54 | Shirik | MobHealth guesses but that's the best you can do |
| 06:27.22 | Iriel | If it's a beast, find a hunter with beast lore |
| 06:28.13 | Atriace | Record total damage to target, sum damage at every percentile drop, multiply to find total. This could work, I think. |
| 06:28.25 | Shirik | but at best that's a guess |
| 06:28.30 | Atriace | True |
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| 06:28.33 | Iriel | that's what mobhealth does |
| 06:28.36 | Shirik | because there will be some over or undershoot on teh percentage |
| 06:28.52 | Shirik | especially when you're talking about mobs with millions of hp |
| 06:29.19 | Shirik | er |
| 06:29.30 | Shirik | I take that back, when you're talking about mobs with low hp ^_^ |
| 06:29.33 | Shirik | well some case! |
| 06:29.35 | Shirik | I can't think right now |
| 06:29.46 | Shirik | too busy stabbing robot |
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| 06:32.44 | Fritz | Hey Shadowed, are you here? |
| 06:34.53 | Shadowed | 2.1k 2vs2 |
| 06:34.54 | Shadowed | busy atm |
| 06:41.51 | Shirik | you know who I just rediscovered? K-Ci and Jojo |
| 06:42.00 | Shirik | Why can't artists sing like that these days |
| 06:42.03 | Shirik | they were great |
| 06:44.02 | Shadowed | It's fixed |
| 06:46.04 | art3mis | Message: Unsupported method ('GET'). |
| 06:46.11 | art3mis | bah how do i fix that |
| 06:46.21 | art3mis | should be the .htaccess right? |
| 06:48.12 | MentalPower | it can be in the httpd.conf |
| 06:48.42 | MentalPower | why would you block GET tho? |
| 06:49.33 | Shirik | obviously for security |
| 06:49.35 | Shirik | lol |
| 06:49.48 | Tem | jesus christ |
| 06:49.55 | Tem | the last pull in Magister's Terrace is insane |
| 06:50.02 | Tem | needs like 8 CCs |
| 06:50.28 | MentalPower | art3mis: <LimitExcept> or <Limit> |
| 06:50.49 | Shirik | meh |
| 06:50.53 | Shirik | we blew right through it |
| 06:50.55 | Shirik | it was fun though |
| 06:51.03 | art3mis | MentalPower: its not my server ;P |
| 06:51.33 | MentalPower | art3mis: then my question still stands, why would it block GET? |
| 06:51.50 | Shirik | paranoia |
| 06:52.12 | Tem | Shirik, in non-lawl-overgeared mode, it's crazy hard |
| 06:53.01 | Shirik | heh |
| 06:53.02 | Shirik | sorry >< |
| 06:53.50 | MentalPower | I know you know this, but I'll say it for clarity GET == TheOnlyWayToGetPages |
| 06:54.24 | ZealotOnAStick | Tem - heroic or normal? |
| 06:54.40 | Tem | normal |
| 06:54.49 | ZealotOnAStick | Got a mage or a lock? |
| 06:55.12 | Tem | both |
| 06:55.13 | ZealotOnAStick | or even a priest, of either variety. |
| 06:55.19 | ZealotOnAStick | should be cake with both then. |
| 06:55.22 | Tem | how? |
| 06:55.31 | Tem | we did it, finally, but we wiped like 7 times |
| 06:55.46 | Tem | and the last time was by the skin of our teeth |
| 06:55.55 | ZealotOnAStick | last pull is the bunch before Kael . . . |
| 06:56.11 | ZealotOnAStick | izzat a bunch of Belfs and a succubus? |
| 06:56.30 | ZealotOnAStick | physician, annoying glaive-throwing guy, etc? |
| 06:56.35 | Shirik | purl, ping |
| 06:56.36 | purl | pong |
| 06:56.40 | Shirik | purl, say Shirik |
| 06:56.40 | purl | Shirik |
| 06:56.55 | Tem | ZealotOnAStick, yar |
| 06:57.43 | ZealotOnAStick | Banish succy on incoming, sheep/mc/sap the glaive bastard (or optionally, CC something else and kill him first), then the other knight guy, then physician. |
| 06:57.46 | ZealotOnAStick | rest is just mop-up. |
| 06:58.03 | ZealotOnAStick | it is a bit of a bitch on heroic though. |
| 06:58.13 | Tem | MC |
| 06:58.17 | Tem | that's what we forgot |
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| 06:58.46 | ZealotOnAStick | Yeah, either glaive-boy or the polearm-wielding knight guy, one of those MC'd can tank another one or two and deals decent damage |
| 07:02.21 | art3mis | MentalPower: appearantly it's a soap server ;P |
| 07:05.38 | Cairenn | eu still down or back up yet? |
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| 07:08.19 | Cairenn | hey AlexanderYoshi :) |
| 07:09.51 | Atriace | How do you get rid of a VertexColor? |
| 07:10.05 | Atriace | I don't see an API for it. |
| 07:10.52 | Iriel | SetVertexColor to 1,1,1 ? |
| 07:11.02 | AlexanderYoshi | Hi |
| 07:11.45 | Atriace | How shocking... that did it, Iriel |
| 07:11.53 | Atriace | I expected it to turn the object white. |
| 07:12.03 | Iriel | The vertex color is a multiplicative mask |
| 07:12.22 | Iriel | blue object + red vertex color == black |
| 07:13.01 | Atriace | I see. |
| 07:18.45 | Iriel | What on earth is an 0xF53 GUID? |
| 07:18.56 | Iriel | Or more specifically, how are they 'special'? |
| 07:19.57 | AlexanderYoshi | *shrug* |
| 07:20.52 | Iriel | Hm, wierd pet guid too, this will be interesting 8-) |
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| 07:28.09 | Shirik | hi AlexanderYoshi |
| 07:29.08 | AlexanderYoshi | Hello |
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| 07:57.57 | Nom- | uptime |
| 07:57.58 | Nom- | df -h |
| 07:58.02 | Nom- | lol wrong window |
| 07:58.49 | art3mis | hehe xkcd's hoverover is awesome today |
| 08:02.12 | art3mis | On 6 April 2008, CERN will open its doors to the public, offering a unique chance to visit its newest and largest particle accelerator, the Large Hadron Collider (LHC), before it goes into |
| 08:02.20 | art3mis | k im jealous of euros that are near |
| 08:02.28 | Shirik | I'm going to have to try that now |
| 08:02.31 | Shirik | I want a stream of candy |
| 08:02.36 | art3mis | heh |
| 08:02.42 | art3mis | ive gotthe perfect boko for ya |
| 08:02.45 | art3mis | book |
| 08:02.51 | art3mis | its called the amateur scientist |
| 08:03.00 | art3mis | you can make a mini particle accellerator |
| 08:03.08 | art3mis | and watch the aprticles |
| 08:03.12 | art3mis | through an eyehole |
| 08:03.32 | Fisker- | INTO OBLIVION AND DESTROYS THE EARTH WITH IT |
| 08:03.33 | art3mis | with a very slight chance the particle will hit that path and go straight into your brain and kill you |
| 08:04.20 | art3mis | http://mediaarchive.cern.ch/MediaArchive/Photo/Public/2007/0705032/0705032_01/0705032_01-A5-at-72-dpi.jpg |
| 08:04.32 | art3mis | ^^simujlated blackhole in ATLAS |
| 08:06.37 | art3mis | http://multimedia-gallery.web.cern.ch/multimedia-gallery/PhotoGallery_Detailed.aspx?searchTerm=LHC&page=5&order=25 |
| 08:07.49 | Shirik | why does microsoft honestly think I want to see "Windows has blocked starup programs" 20 times when I log in |
| 08:07.55 | Shirik | seriously, if I ignored you the first time, I don't care |
| 08:08.11 | Shirik | it pops up every 5 minutes until you pay attention to it -_- |
| 08:08.38 | MentalPower | Shirik: I'd like a way for it to allow them permanently |
| 08:08.47 | Shirik | yeah, that too |
| 08:08.48 | MentalPower | without turning off UAC |
| 08:08.59 | MentalPower | (which nags about it being turned off way too much) |
| 08:09.13 | Shirik | I like UAC |
| 08:09.19 | art3mis | hehe its the same with that reboot countdown on windows update |
| 08:09.34 | Fisker- | i hate the new one |
| 08:09.35 | Shirik | oh I leave windows update off |
| 08:09.36 | Fisker- | that just restarts |
| 08:09.40 | Fisker- | unless you tell it not to |
| 08:09.44 | Fisker- | and it still nags you |
| 08:09.58 | art3mis | yeah i generally kill the service after it's done |
| 08:10.02 | Fisker- | I HATE WAKING UP TO A REBOOTED MACHINE RAWR |
| 08:10.13 | Fisker- | it makes me think war was declared |
| 08:10.28 | Fisker- | or atleast something bad happened |
| 08:11.04 | Fisker- | rages |
| 08:11.46 | MentalPower | Fisker-: I just net stop "Windows Update" |
| 08:12.12 | Shirik | :< |
| 08:12.17 | Shirik | The DKP site still hasn't been updated |
| 08:12.18 | MentalPower | "Automatic Updates" in XP |
| 08:12.21 | Shirik | I've been "Unknown" for 2 weeks now |
| 08:12.32 | art3mis | uptime(win2k): win(3w 3d 4h 15m 47s) serv(21h 14m 54s) today(4h 12m 1s) xirc(3w 3d 3h 32m 58s) best(3w 3d 4h 15m 44s) |
| 08:12.37 | art3mis | wow |
| 08:12.40 | art3mis | 3 weeks |
| 08:12.50 | Shirik | uptime: 1h 12m 43s :: record: 2w 3d 5h 18m 7s |
| 08:12.54 | Shirik | I got close :P |
| 08:13.03 | MentalPower | art3mis: what command you use for that |
| 08:13.07 | MentalPower | Shirik: same question |
| 08:13.10 | art3mis | so ive given up with this dtc setup |
| 08:13.12 | Shirik | well I use nbs-irc |
| 08:13.19 | art3mis | MentalPower: its aprt of xircon |
| 08:13.24 | art3mis | what client ya using? |
| 08:13.30 | MentalPower | chatzilla |
| 08:13.57 | art3mis | oh it prolly doesnt have it but generally it's /uptime or /sysstats or /stats |
| 08:14.43 | art3mis | on a plus side though, i did find a simply awesome program for a web insterface for xen |
| 08:15.01 | art3mis | has signup auto config creation of install images etc etc etc |
| 08:15.24 | art3mis | interface |
| 08:15.38 | MentalPower | gnight |
| 08:15.45 | Sixen | Night. |
| 08:26.21 | Shirik | hm, 32% done already |
| 08:26.25 | Shirik | not bad I guess for a low pop server |
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| 08:29.42 | Shirik | anyone ever heard of Symphony X? |
| 08:29.48 | art3mis | nupe |
| 08:30.03 | Shirik | pandora found them for me, pretty good.. |
| 08:30.19 | art3mis | pandora's nice like that |
| 08:30.42 | art3mis | have you discovered that after 3 hours of listening to pandora almost all music becomes trance or house music? |
| 08:30.53 | Shirik | depends on what channel I'm on |
| 08:31.01 | art3mis | ive started with slayer |
| 08:31.06 | Shirik | yes, but usually only when I'm on the Tiesto channel |
| 08:31.06 | art3mis | and venom and death |
| 08:31.19 | Shirik | my dragonforce channel definitely stayed speed metal, my unwritten channel definitely stayed pop |
| 08:31.26 | Shirik | my gackt channel went haywire |
| 08:32.01 | art3mis | maybe they've fixed it |
| 08:32.51 | Shirik | You know, I gotta give the iRobot team a ton of credit |
| 08:33.00 | Shirik | the open interface specification is so amazingly easy it's not even funny |
| 08:33.23 | Shirik | "what, you're using a wireless connection from a host computer? Here, use this opcode and the bot will just spam you with all the data it can, in hopes that transmission errors are mitigated" |
| 08:33.26 | Shirik | And it really does |
| 08:33.35 | art3mis | laugh |
| 08:33.40 | Shirik | but still |
| 08:33.43 | Shirik | the response time is amazing |
| 08:33.51 | Shirik | you wouldn't even know that was happening if you didn't write the code |
| 08:33.53 | art3mis | i should dig out my lego mindstorms and play around some time |
| 08:34.08 | Shirik | I'm doing this for a class :) The class is going to use my API |
| 08:34.22 | Shirik | I get to write a little java wrapper for this bot so they can write an AI in Java |
| 08:36.54 | Duman | man |
| 08:37.14 | Duman | sometimes I wonder how some of these people who post on the forums actually manage to function in life |
| 08:38.16 | art3mis | http://mindstorms.lego.com/eng/products/ris/index.asp |
| 08:38.20 | art3mis | ^^ thats the kit i have |
| 08:38.47 | Fisker- | sex with men art3mis |
| 08:40.01 | Codayus | art3mis: I've been using Pandora since launch; it's NEVER turned up house OR trance music for me... :-p |
| 08:41.25 | Codayus | Although I admit, I think the song "What the hell is stipulation?" by Reggie and the Full Effects has turned up on about 60% of my Pandora channels, and it's been wildly inappropriate in almost all of them. And I don't even LIKE the song... |
| 08:42.09 | Codayus | Haven't seen it in a few months though, there algorithms must be getting better. :-p |
| 08:44.14 | leethal | so, say you're making a new addon. Say you have no idea which framework - if any - one should use. Anyone got some pointers, blogposts or bibles? |
| 08:46.22 | leethal | rawr |
| 08:47.07 | art3mis | Codayus: wierd, do you mean legit launch last year or real launch like 4 years ago? |
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| 08:47.44 | Codayus | Legit launch? What? |
| 08:48.06 | art3mis | well the "the riaa stopped sueing us" re-launch |
| 08:48.15 | p30n | ok US people, gimme some knowledge now |
| 08:48.24 | art3mis | sukitt p30n |
| 08:48.25 | p30n | how do i even get to sunwell isle in the first place? |
| 08:48.35 | p30n | im waiting for EU to go online |
| 08:48.47 | Codayus | They got sued? |
| 08:48.49 | Codayus | Really? |
| 08:48.50 | Codayus | Oo |
| 08:49.29 | p30n | no US-WoWer online here now ? :o |
| 08:49.45 | Cairenn | sure there is |
| 08:49.59 | Codayus | I'm pretty sure they were always legit... But yeah, 4 years or so? I've been a subscriber since... late '05. |
| 08:50.19 | Elkano | p30n, alliance or horde? |
| 08:50.24 | p30n | Cairenn: ok, i seem to not find any info on this anywhere |
| 08:50.26 | p30n | Elkano: alli |
| 08:51.19 | Cairenn | what info? |
| 08:51.34 | Cairenn | (sorry, just switched back to this channel) |
| 08:51.53 | p30n | Cairenn: how do i get to Sunwell Isle in the first place |
| 08:51.57 | p30n | i mean, before i got the FP |
| 08:52.00 | Elkano | as alliance, iirc, you travel from Ironforge... or Shatt |
| 08:52.10 | Cairenn | ummm, I dunno |
| 08:52.17 | Cairenn | points at Elkano |
| 08:52.19 | p30n | portal from shatt? or fly from IF and get automagic FP at sunwell ? |
| 08:52.26 | p30n | ok thanks, time will tell :) |
| 08:52.41 | p30n | (no1 seems to know this) |
| 08:55.31 | Xinhuan | so after 10 hours of spell-link spams on /2 including stories |
| 08:55.40 | Xinhuan | people are now making cute faces with the raid icons in /2 now, like 2 orange circles for the eyes on line 1, a green triangle for the nose on line 2 |
| 09:00.29 | p30n | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:01.07 | art3mis | heh |
| 09:01.13 | Shirik | p30n: alliance or horde |
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| 09:01.57 | art3mis | Codayus: they werent sued per se, the riaa ordered a cease adn desist to which they ended up arguing radio rights |
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| 09:02.28 | art3mis | like last feb or something they were almost force to make thier site go bi bi |
| 09:02.47 | art3mis | http://parkdalepictures.blogspot.com/2007/05/pandora-shut-down.html |
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| 09:30.50 | Shirik | server shutdown imminent! |
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| 09:32.22 | Shirik | server signal reacquired! |
| 09:32.33 | Shirik | <3 patch day restarts |
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| 09:35.53 | digmouse | the bliz guys seem found sth. |
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| 09:44.21 | Shirik | o hai ChanServ |
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| 09:56.58 | sag_ich_nicht | is it normal to get version validation errors before the servers are up? |
| 09:58.12 | nevcairiel | no |
| 09:58.17 | nevcairiel | but today it is |
| 09:59.46 | sag_ich_nicht | i meant today. |
| 09:59.49 | sag_ich_nicht | http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert fuck |
| 09:59.50 | sag_ich_nicht | extended |
| 09:59.51 | sag_ich_nicht | -.- |
| 10:01.46 | nevcairiel | some of the auth servers seem to be not updated yet |
| 10:01.57 | nevcairiel | if you try again you probably get in |
| 10:03.11 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah i just did |
| 10:04.30 | Cairenn | must |
| 10:04.32 | Cairenn | sleep |
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| 10:29.11 | Legorol | Happy patch day to Europeans! |
| 10:29.31 | sag_ich_nicht | not |
| 10:29.40 | sag_ich_nicht | i wanted to play an hour before i go to work |
| 10:29.42 | sag_ich_nicht | now i can't :( |
| 10:30.12 | sacarasc | heh |
| 10:30.18 | sacarasc | it should be back in 90 minutes |
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| 10:30.24 | sacarasc | unless it's still broken |
| 10:33.49 | Legorol | i wanted to play an hour before i get on a plane, now i can't :/ i think that's more QQ than you, sag_ich_nicht ;-) |
| 10:33.58 | sag_ich_nicht | true |
| 10:34.33 | Legorol | for the first time since patch 1.2 or so, i have made it on time for the projected end of maintenance, here i am ready to log in |
| 10:47.34 | sag_ich_nicht | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/thefistsoffury.jpg <--hilariously useless hyjal trashmob drop |
| 10:48.30 | Fisker- | moar void crystals |
| 10:48.56 | sag_ich_nicht | ya |
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| 11:10.09 | Shirik | seriously, do people call MT "SPLAT5" ? |
| 11:11.04 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 11:11.19 | Shirik | that's what wowwiki says! |
| 11:12.17 | foxlit|mac | Oh hi |
| 11:12.32 | Shirik | o hai |
| 11:12.34 | foxlit|mac | blizzard downloader is evil :( |
| 11:12.39 | Shirik | u has mac, i hates u nowz |
| 11:12.51 | foxlit|mac | has mac for ages! |
| 11:12.52 | foxlit|mac | http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/5125/console001eu0.png |
| 11:13.06 | Shirik | wow |
| 11:13.33 | clad|office | so thats why it slows down my machine |
| 11:13.37 | foxlit|mac | Indeed |
| 11:13.38 | clad|office | i never even looked :P |
| 11:13.53 | foxlit|mac | Could you post that somewhere? :) |
| 11:13.56 | clad|office | its ONLY 4000 messages in 2 minutes |
| 11:14.01 | Shirik | oh is that all |
| 11:14.08 | Shirik | that's like that time my robot was leaking 5MB memory every second |
| 11:14.14 | Shirik | it was awesome until you realized it's actually bad |
| 11:14.37 | foxlit|mac | EU doesn't even have a mac tech forum :( |
| 11:14.39 | Maldivia | Shirik: SPLAT5... sounds like a straight version of Fab5 :) |
| 11:14.42 | clad|office | im posting |
| 11:14.55 | Shirik | lol |
| 11:14.57 | Shirik | anyway, night |
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| 11:16.03 | clad|office | foxlit|mac: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5539956440&postId=55392380313&sid=1#0 |
| 11:17.18 | Fisker- | macs are inferior foxlit|mac |
| 11:17.28 | Fisker- | european people are usually smart enough to know that |
| 11:17.36 | Fisker- | whereas those US people are dazzled by shit |
| 11:17.50 | Fisker- | obvious trolls a bit more |
| 11:18.02 | Maldivia | hmm, anyone know if it's a bug or feature, that the entire combat log refreshes when zoning, or when changing chat settings (also for other chatframe than the combat log) |
| 11:18.26 | foxlit|mac | Maldivia: http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/5540035829.htm |
| 11:18.27 | Fisker- | feature |
| 11:18.43 | Maldivia | ohh :) |
| 11:18.56 | Maldivia | how did I miss that thread |
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| 11:27.14 | nevcairiel | WoWI seems quite fast still, nice work on the new servers :) |
| 11:29.48 | nevcairiel | clad|office: can you approve Mapster, pretty please? :) |
| 11:30.01 | cladhaire | already done |
| 11:30.09 | nevcairiel | fast! |
| 11:30.12 | cladhaire | i know, cause its not in the queue anymore :P |
| 11:32.45 | JoshBork1 | well shit, you're actually releasing shit to wowi now nevvy? |
| 11:32.50 | nevcairiel | always |
| 11:32.59 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 11:33.10 | dylanm | cladhaire: Did you and Gcode have a falling out again? |
| 11:33.13 | nevcairiel | i want to update HotCandy too, but it still contains the Ace2 CandyBar |
| 11:33.19 | nevcairiel | [Ammo] has been slacking with that! |
| 11:33.26 | cladhaire | dylanm: no? |
| 11:33.31 | cladhaire | dylanm: we had a falling out in the first place? |
| 11:33.45 | nevcairiel | they didnt like your big LH repo :P |
| 11:33.45 | dylanm | Well, with Lightheaded. And that was sort of a special case. |
| 11:33.45 | JoshBork1 | gd readme.txt with unix line endings |
| 11:33.55 | cladhaire | meh |
| 11:33.59 | cladhaire | no, i host elsewhere because its easier for me |
| 11:34.00 | cladhaire | to say the leats |
| 11:34.01 | cladhaire | least |
| 11:34.16 | cladhaire | hopefully you'll be able to checkout from there soon |
| 11:34.36 | dylanm | Not a problem at all. I don't mind visiting wowi at all :p |
| 11:34.40 | dylanm | Site held up damned well. |
| 11:37.47 | dylanm | I'm interested in trying github myself. |
| 11:38.28 | cladhaire | we use gitorious for sputnik |
| 11:38.34 | cladhaire | and i miss lots of git things for my addons |
| 11:38.42 | cladhaire | but easy pushing of files is important to me. |
| 11:38.47 | Nom- | Anyone know of some commonly used addons that might cause massive battleground lag, but be fine elsewhere ? |
| 11:39.08 | foxlit|mac | Nom-: http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/5540035829.htm ? |
| 11:40.13 | Nom- | ahah! |
| 11:40.19 | Nom- | hotfix inc i guess (hope) |
| 11:40.57 | Nom- | lol yeah i think my mage is no longer playable due to that combat log thing |
| 11:41.09 | nevcairiel | how so? |
| 11:41.19 | Nom- | stuck on loading screen |
| 11:41.41 | Nom- | if it is that... |
| 11:41.54 | nevcairiel | you can fix it yourself, you know :) |
| 11:42.28 | Nom- | Yeah, I saw the fixes in that thread |
| 11:44.03 | nevcairiel | nearly 1pm CET now .. servers are due back |
| 11:44.07 | nevcairiel | ~wowalert |
| 11:44.08 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US), http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) |
| 11:44.19 | nevcairiel | nothing new yet |
| 11:54.20 | cladhaire | is it sad that i check my own addons before approving them on wowi |
| 11:54.21 | cladhaire | lol |
| 11:54.27 | cladhaire | no, but funny, yes |
| 11:54.56 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 11:56.29 | p30n | so people, do i need to update ALL my addons now? |
| 11:56.38 | foxlit|mac | No |
| 11:56.49 | foxlit|mac | Though you should, anyway |
| 11:56.53 | nevcairiel | its generally safe to just update everything on patch day |
| 11:56.56 | digmouse | at most times only combatlog-relative ones are needed |
| 11:57.09 | nevcairiel | EU is coming online, btw |
| 11:57.17 | digmouse | some of them |
| 11:57.32 | foxlit|mac | Nev: dunno, you're assuming everyone released 2.4-compatible versions ;) |
| 11:57.48 | nevcairiel | foxlit|mac: cant get worse then before the update, no? |
| 11:58.02 | foxlit|mac | Depends :) |
| 11:58.10 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 11:58.23 | foxlit|mac | Perhaps the older version is stable, while the new one is untested |
| 11:59.48 | Nom- | maaaaaan |
| 11:59.51 | Nom- | our server is fooooooooobar |
| 12:00.04 | Nom- | Worst lag ever |
| 12:01.35 | Fisker- | :D? |
| 12:02.54 | digmouse | everyone log in at the same time |
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| 12:05.59 | p30n | genjuros still down :( |
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| 12:41.41 | sag_ich_nicht | someone please write a bug report on the US forums that druid S3 helm is now hidding hair..(it shouldn't and this was changed already TO the hair not being hidden BECAUSE of complaints and now reverted) so the MT of my raid doesn't go zerker on me D: |
| 12:42.13 | foxlit|mac | why would your mt care? |
| 12:42.18 | sag_ich_nicht | druid? |
| 12:42.25 | nevcairiel | he is a bear all the time anyway |
| 12:42.38 | nevcairiel | T6 has always hidden the Hair, S3 just is consistent with that |
| 12:42.40 | sag_ich_nicht | except SHE is a girl. must i say more? |
| 12:42.55 | foxlit|mac | A girl bear, then? |
| 12:42.56 | sag_ich_nicht | now write a bug report so i don't die a horrible gruesome death |
| 12:43.05 | nevcairiel | i hope you enjoy your death |
| 12:43.07 | nevcairiel | honestly |
| 12:43.12 | sag_ich_nicht | I WILL |
| 12:43.15 | nevcairiel | i sure will |
| 12:43.20 | sag_ich_nicht | but it is not the TIME for it now |
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| 12:45.42 | foxlit|mac | {\sc Or isn't it?} |
| 12:46.20 | sag_ich_nicht | look please, just write a report even if it's pointless just so i can go "see? it's reported. now stop the QQ" |
| 12:46.35 | nevcairiel | its not a bug |
| 12:46.38 | nevcairiel | just accept that :P |
| 12:47.03 | nevcairiel | you can hide helmets too .. :) |
| 12:49.16 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel |
| 12:49.18 | sag_ich_nicht | shut up. |
| 12:49.24 | sag_ich_nicht | this is about psychology. |
| 12:49.29 | nevcairiel | nah i like trolling you |
| 12:49.35 | sag_ich_nicht | i know |
| 12:49.43 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm not in the mood for trolling. |
| 12:49.52 | Nom- | At least Mount Hyjal is not super laggy |
| 12:49.59 | Nom- | We're getting bosses down :) |
| 12:50.08 | sag_ich_nicht | lol morons |
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| 12:51.56 | foxlit|mac | lolflood! |
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| 13:02.48 | foxlit|mac | Aaaaadysss! |
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| 13:09.29 | klip | poor Adys |
| 13:09.38 | digmouse | Excess Flood |
| 13:10.41 | dylanm | Cairenn|afk: Are your site and wowhead owned by the same company or something? |
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| 13:21.09 | ralfWORK | Adys: stop it! |
| 13:23.16 | haste | working as intended |
| 13:23.33 | p30n | adys or what? :p |
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| 13:33.56 | Nom- | hmm anyone here use Recount ? |
| 13:34.05 | Nom- | Trying to work out how to get this screen: http://acm.jhu.edu/~cryect/Recount/graph1.jpg |
| 13:34.56 | Nom- | oh it says it on the text... shift-click |
| 13:34.58 | Nom- | *sigh* |
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| 13:40.15 | Industrial | anyone here in the WAR beta? wanna share your account? T_T |
| 13:40.36 | Antiar1 | WTB sleep |
| 13:40.36 | Antiar1 | PST |
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| 13:44.07 | ralfWORK | so what are vortices going for on everyone's servers? |
| 13:44.20 | ralfWORK | Elune alliance side they look to go for about 200g a pop |
| 13:45.46 | p30n | maybe i can finally afford my hapix flying mount now |
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| 13:45.56 | p30n | i got a shitload of vortexes but no uber mount |
| 13:45.57 | p30n | lmfao |
| 13:45.58 | ralfWORK | yea, I might be able to get mine now |
| 13:46.00 | ralfWORK | hah |
| 13:46.04 | ralfWORK | I thought about selling them |
| 13:46.10 | ralfWORK | but I have things I want :( |
| 13:46.25 | ralfWORK | like gems and gears and stuff :( |
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| 13:47.13 | p30n | we all do :) |
| 13:47.18 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 13:48.39 | ralfWORK | I got my belt of blasting made for a 50g crafting fee last night |
| 13:48.58 | Bela|work | vortexes for 200g a pop? |
| 13:49.04 | ralfWORK | then I put ghetto +7dmg gems in them because I'm waiting for more JCers to get the +12dmg recipe lol |
| 13:49.08 | Bela|work | now I know why I kept that 20 stack around forever |
| 13:49.21 | ralfWORK | Bela|work: 20 stack of vortexes? |
| 13:49.27 | Bela|work | I never used them |
| 13:49.30 | ralfWORK | wow |
| 13:49.32 | ralfWORK | just... wow |
| 13:49.38 | Bela|work | and we did a lot of tk |
| 13:49.42 | sag_ich_nicht | any guesses when WotLK will come out? |
| 13:49.43 | ralfWORK | but like |
| 13:49.55 | ralfWORK | oh, so you don't have any patterns that need them? |
| 13:49.58 | sag_ich_nicht | i just need some IRC spam from competent people to flame someone |
| 13:49.58 | Bela|work | technically, its guild proprty |
| 13:50.07 | Bela|work | I can't in good concience just get money for em |
| 13:50.37 | ralfWORK | sag_ich_nicht: no clue. my guess, which is based on absolutely nothing, is that it will be early 2009 |
| 13:50.43 | Bela|work | ralfWORK: the problem isn't that we dont have patterns |
| 13:50.55 | Bela|work | its that everyone has gotten everything they need or want |
| 13:51.00 | Bela|work | so we have no use for them |
| 13:51.01 | ralfWORK | ahhh gotcha |
| 13:51.14 | ralfWORK | I should have been a good GL last night and put notes in the guild vault |
| 13:51.16 | ralfWORK | oh well |
| 13:51.30 | ralfWORK | btw, anyone else hearing tank QQ about MgT? |
| 13:51.39 | ralfWORK | (is that what we're calling the 5 man?) |
| 13:52.08 | Bela|work | same with shards. last I checked we had about half a tab full of 20 stacks of void crystals |
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| 13:52.18 | ralfWORK | oh wow |
| 13:52.26 | ralfWORK | we have 4 or 5 stacks of voids |
| 13:52.30 | ralfWORK | and I thought *we* had alot :P |
| 13:52.35 | Bela|work | they didn't sell fast enough before |
| 13:52.39 | Bela|work | although now.... |
| 13:52.43 | ralfWORK | now at least they can be useful |
| 13:53.02 | ralfWORK | with us doing MgT and with the void shatter recipe I can't wait to get, |
| 13:53.06 | ralfWORK | we should have enough now |
| 13:53.20 | Bela|work | MgT isn't that bad, unless you are a healer |
| 13:53.27 | Bela|work | just wow |
| 13:53.34 | ralfWORK | we went in there blind last night |
| 13:53.39 | ralfWORK | wiped a good chunk of time |
| 13:53.41 | Bela|work | bring lots of cc |
| 13:53.44 | ralfWORK | but wasn't terribad |
| 13:53.47 | Bela|work | mage, warlock, rogue |
| 13:53.48 | ralfWORK | hah |
| 13:53.49 | ralfWORK | well |
| 13:53.52 | Bela|work | perfect combo |
| 13:53.54 | ralfWORK | I'm a shadow priest |
| 13:53.55 | ralfWORK | so no |
| 13:53.58 | ralfWORK | I won't :) |
| 13:54.09 | ralfWORK | that 3rd boss pissed us off though |
| 13:54.10 | p30n | Bela|work: pain for a healing pala ? |
| 13:54.23 | ralfWORK | can't MC the adds. can't seduce them. |
| 13:54.53 | p30n | :( |
| 13:54.59 | p30n | frost nova? |
| 13:55.04 | p30n | fear ? |
| 13:55.08 | ralfWORK | maybe |
| 13:55.09 | ralfWORK | fear yes |
| 13:55.25 | ralfWORK | I hear hunter traps work, but didn't have a hunter to try it out |
| 13:55.31 | p30n | kewl |
| 13:55.42 | ralfWORK | the rogue add was pissing me off |
| 13:55.49 | ralfWORK | told our rogue to go take care of him |
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| 13:57.02 | p30n | allright, i got a grp of, me(lock), warr tank, healing priest, rogue and mage |
| 13:57.08 | p30n | should be pretty awesum i reckon |
| 13:57.32 | ralfWORK | cool |
| 13:57.38 | ralfWORK | should be ok |
| 13:57.51 | ralfWORK | I'm interested to see if your warrior cries like a bitch when you're done |
| 13:57.58 | ralfWORK | what gearing you guys at? |
| 13:58.25 | p30n | ssc/tk |
| 13:58.29 | ralfWORK | ah ok |
| 13:58.31 | p30n | we all got all we need kinda from there |
| 13:58.34 | ralfWORK | shouldn't be too bad then |
| 13:58.38 | p30n | so we should be rdy for it |
| 13:58.43 | ralfWORK | we are 2 bosses into ZA |
| 13:58.49 | p30n | we got 4 down |
| 13:59.01 | ralfWORK | really figured regular mode wouldn't be *that* bad |
| 13:59.10 | ralfWORK | but I'm sure the 2nd time through it'll be better |
| 13:59.19 | p30n | indeed, but u have to run it once on normal to get to heroic right ? |
| 13:59.22 | ralfWORK | not sure how many times I wanna do regular before doing heroic |
| 13:59.37 | ralfWORK | yea, I think that's true |
| 13:59.44 | ralfWORK | but I don't recall getting a key or anything |
| 14:00.04 | Bela|work | its a ?flag? |
| 14:00.10 | p30n | how about, me(healin pala), tank druid, mage, rogue and dps warr? |
| 14:00.12 | Bela|work | no actual key |
| 14:00.25 | ralfWORK | p30n: if you are ssc/tk, don't worry about it |
| 14:00.34 | ralfWORK | p30n: just go try it, you'll figure it out I'm sure |
| 14:00.45 | Bela|work | you will be fine, but you will need to fast on the quick heals |
| 14:00.53 | Bela|work | there is a lot of group-wide dmg |
| 14:00.57 | ralfWORK | lots of group damage |
| 14:00.58 | ralfWORK | ya |
| 14:00.58 | Bela|work | shamans do well there |
| 14:01.06 | ralfWORK | it's like a mini ZA :D |
| 14:01.21 | ralfWORK | or could be likened to shattered halls (big pulls) |
| 14:01.38 | Bela|work | we actually had a problem in our group with TOO MUCH dps |
| 14:01.52 | ralfWORK | I hadn't done a regular instance in forever |
| 14:02.00 | ralfWORK | it was funny how little HP the trash had |
| 14:02.19 | Bela|work | we got Kael to 50% with only one pheonix spawned, and we didn't get to kill the egg before he lapsed us |
| 14:02.20 | ralfWORK | I was VT, MB, SW:D, MF and they were dead |
| 14:02.53 | ralfWORK | ya, we only had 1 bird pop |
| 14:02.55 | Bela|work | ranged works well on Kael |
| 14:03.00 | Bela|work | we had too much melee |
| 14:03.10 | ralfWORK | oh, our druid got the bird from him lol |
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| 14:03.17 | ralfWORK | I had never seen her so excited |
| 14:03.24 | Bela|work | heh |
| 14:03.36 | ralfWORK | she was it disbelief that no one else wanted to roll on it |
| 14:03.53 | ralfWORK | I was like "well damn, I mean it sounds like it's gonna make your week; have at it" |
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| 14:27.54 | batrick | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:28.29 | p30n | afternoon |
| 14:31.30 | ralfWORK | evening |
| 14:33.23 | Josh_Borke | night |
| 14:33.41 | ralfWORK | o.O |
| 14:38.29 | batrick | wowi down for anyone else? |
| 14:39.06 | dylanm | Yeah. |
| 14:41.46 | Apoco | its up just laggy |
| 14:42.12 | ralfWORK | wowjutsu is broken :( |
| 14:44.11 | dru_ | wowjutsu is borked in more ways than one :-) |
| 14:44.37 | ralfWORK | *shrug* |
| 14:44.38 | p30n | indeed :) |
| 14:44.44 | ralfWORK | you're the guy who wants to make a new one, right? |
| 14:44.59 | dru_ | yeah |
| 14:45.18 | ralfWORK | so what are your gripes with it, if you don't mind me asking? |
| 14:45.30 | ralfWORK | aside from perhaps the fact that it's often behind the times |
| 14:45.49 | dru_ | A. it's very slow |
| 14:46.10 | dru_ | B. it's scaling seems off. |
| 14:46.30 | dru_ | C. it's granularity seems a little strange. |
| 14:46.30 | p30n | yea the slow-ness is the thing that bothers me most |
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| 14:46.37 | p30n | it hasnt updated for 2 weeks now from what i can tell |
| 14:46.40 | dru_ | D. it doesn't address the issue of server transfers. |
| 14:46.53 | ralfWORK | I don't know that D can be addressed |
| 14:47.00 | ralfWORK | talk about B and C |
| 14:47.10 | dylanm | You could guess about D. |
| 14:47.19 | dylanm | But at this stage when everyone pretty much has the same stuff |
| 14:47.44 | ralfWORK | you could guess about guild alliances too. don't think it would be a good idea though |
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| 14:48.02 | dru_ | (it hasn't updated the guild I moved to when it was split from another guild 7 weeks ago) |
| 14:48.16 | dru_ | we *still* aren't listed on Wowjutsu |
| 14:48.21 | ralfWORK | dru_: what progression? |
| 14:48.26 | p30n | yea thats what i mean dru_ |
| 14:48.28 | ralfWORK | you can prompt an update |
| 14:48.31 | p30n | they are rly slow |
| 14:48.42 | p30n | ralfWORK: didnt work for me when i did it 2 weeks back |
| 14:48.42 | dru_ | we have, repeatedly. |
| 14:48.48 | p30n | and it still hasn't updated |
| 14:48.50 | ralfWORK | hmm k |
| 14:48.52 | ralfWORK | *shrug* |
| 14:49.01 | ralfWORK | when I've prompted updates for my guild, it worked :P |
| 14:49.09 | p30n | ill give it another go then |
| 14:49.22 | ralfWORK | you guys post-kara? |
| 14:49.24 | p30n | only thing i update atm is the official forums PvE thread on my realm |
| 14:49.37 | p30n | ralfWORK: we are soon completing ssc/tk |
| 14:49.39 | dru_ | ralfWORK: progressionwise we cleared Kara, ZA, Mag, Gruul, and all but Vash the first week (and every weeks since) |
| 14:49.43 | ralfWORK | k |
| 14:49.44 | Hjalte | Everything is called Syntax Error with Putbill and Cowtip :( |
| 14:49.46 | p30n | only illidan and vashj left, and we havent even tried em yet |
| 14:50.23 | dru_ | we should have vash down next week (we are taking this week off to play with the new content) |
| 14:50.38 | dru_ | did MT regular & heroic both last night |
| 14:50.50 | zenzelezz | p30n: if you're doing TK I assume you mean Kael'thas, not Illidan? |
| 14:50.56 | dru_ | 3rd boss in MT is by far the hardest encounter in MT |
| 14:51.21 | p30n | Query failed: Too many connections |
| 14:51.26 | p30n | zenzelezz: lol yes i R nawb |
| 14:51.38 | ralfWORK | p30n: yea, I'm getting 'too many connections' too |
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| 14:51.53 | ralfWORK | we are rated #100 on our realm |
| 14:51.57 | ralfWORK | I wish we could move up |
| 14:52.52 | p30n | ralfWORK: we are at #22 |
| 14:53.03 | ralfWORK | I'd imagine so, with those bosses down |
| 14:53.08 | ralfWORK | we're just too small |
| 14:53.08 | dru_ | we were rated 19 in our old guild, we split and passed them in 2 weeks, but wowjutsu hasn't updated wo we can't actually prove to many where we are :( |
| 14:53.13 | ralfWORK | and don't recruit :P |
| 14:53.24 | p30n | we dont recruit either |
| 14:53.32 | p30n | we have about 70accounts on our guild |
| 14:53.42 | p30n | but like TaD is #1 on our realm |
| 14:53.44 | ralfWORK | so you don't need to recruit :) |
| 14:53.50 | dru_ | we recruit only from folks we've run with |
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| 14:54.01 | p30n | and they moved and ?disbanded? at least 1 month ago too |
| 14:54.05 | p30n | and they still #1 on wowjutstu |
| 14:54.12 | ralfWORK | all the people we run with are usually guilded |
| 14:54.19 | ralfWORK | which kinda sucks from a recruiting standpoint |
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| 14:54.36 | dru_ | so? |
| 14:54.46 | ralfWORK | so? so what? |
| 14:55.12 | dru_ | so what if they are already guilded. |
| 14:55.20 | ralfWORK | oh, poach? |
| 14:55.25 | dru_ | Not poach. |
| 14:55.27 | dylanm | I guess people don't like that. |
| 14:55.37 | dylanm | I don't know. I couldn't care less. |
| 14:56.08 | ralfWORK | well, 75% of the time, they are also alts of more progressed toons |
| 14:56.15 | dru_ | we generally let folks know that we have an open slot. |
| 14:56.17 | cogumel0 | I am writing an addon that deals with notes on maps (dots) that can be inserted by the user itself. Yet, I want to limit it so that you can't add more than one note/dot per coordinate. Is there any easier way to do this than to check every single dot that has already been created and make sure it's coordinates do not match the coordinates given by the user? seems to me it can start taking a LONG time after a few hundred dots on the map |
| 14:56.22 | ralfWORK | and to be honest, I'm pretty sick of ass-hats like that |
| 14:56.28 | ralfWORK | always got something to say |
| 14:57.16 | dylanm | Do you get the ones that think that because they have progressed mains everything they do and say is amazing |
| 14:57.30 | ralfWORK | often, yes |
| 14:57.41 | ralfWORK | or "well that's not how we do it in MY guild" |
| 14:58.08 | ralfWORK | we have a few in our guild actually |
| 14:58.13 | dru_ | dylanm: those aren't folks we generally invite. |
| 14:58.14 | ralfWORK | and they are kinda QQ |
| 14:58.25 | ralfWORK | one is a hunter |
| 14:58.36 | ralfWORK | he died when we tried Gruul as a shaman tank |
| 14:58.48 | ralfWORK | we killed HKM in 3 shots |
| 14:58.52 | ralfWORK | (alliance with another guild) |
| 14:59.06 | Nom- | 4/5 MH on patch day |
| 14:59.07 | Nom- | Not bad |
| 14:59.11 | ralfWORK | now instead of saying "hey, we need dedicated healers" |
| 14:59.14 | dru_ | though the guild we all left has been using a couple of folks form the #1 guild on our server to help them learn the fights in SSC and TK |
| 14:59.15 | Bela|work | cogumel0: if you store your points in a table using the coordinates, part of your job is done for you since a new dot added would try to overwrite an existing one. Then you just need a way to detect if it exists, and warn the user before you overwrite |
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| 14:59.26 | ralfWORK | he says "he'll have to think about whether he wants to do it again" |
| 14:59.37 | Nom- | Well, we have those bosses on farm, but the fact we had enough non-lagging, non-broken-modded people online |
| 14:59.48 | Bela|work | like coords["100x120"] = {data} |
| 14:59.52 | ralfWORK | the real issue is that this is his alt |
| 15:00.00 | ralfWORK | so he could give a damn, I think, about progression |
| 15:00.14 | ralfWORK | "my mage cleares SSC/TK. this is just play-play for me" |
| 15:00.14 | cogumel0 | where data would equal ? |
| 15:00.26 | Bela|work | well |
| 15:00.32 | Bela|work | that was an arbritrary example |
| 15:00.35 | Bela|work | I dont know what your data would be |
| 15:00.40 | dru_ | our first run of Gruul with this split guild was a 22 man, one shot clear of Gruul |
| 15:00.59 | Bela|work | coords[x.."x"..y] |
| 15:00.59 | dru_ | I <3 my healers :-) |
| 15:01.22 | Nom- | oh wow, we timed it well |
| 15:01.24 | cogumel0 | ohh, I see |
| 15:01.32 | Nom- | Just after we collected our gem nodes, the entire MH instance is lagging out |
| 15:01.37 | cogumel0 | lol, my mistake, haven't touched the addon in a while and got mixed with what my table holds :P |
| 15:01.39 | Bela|work | so if you put a new dot in the exact same spot, it would want to use that existing table entry |
| 15:01.50 | cogumel0 | ok, so change the index i which is an integer by the coordinates itself |
| 15:02.07 | Bela|work | you could do something like if (coords[x.."x"..y]) then WarnUser(); end |
| 15:02.20 | Bela|work | in your update function |
| 15:02.37 | cogumel0 | actually your way works better |
| 15:03.05 | Bela|work | yeah you dont have to actually iterate the table for matches this way |
| 15:03.14 | cogumel0 | as it is my table has something like Table[i] = frame, where i = #Table + 1 |
| 15:03.18 | Bela|work | unless you wanted more fuzzy logic |
| 15:03.42 | dylanm | If you don't want the creation of things really close together... that's more work. |
| 15:03.48 | Bela|work | yeah |
| 15:03.55 | Bela|work | although you could still use that method |
| 15:04.41 | cogumel0 | well... how could I cycle through them afterwards? |
| 15:04.55 | cogumel0 | as it is it's quite easy, I just do for i = 1 to #Table |
| 15:05.04 | cogumel0 | and then Table[i] ... |
| 15:05.21 | cogumel0 | if I change the index to something like 22x100 I can't do a cycle like that |
| 15:05.34 | cogumel0 | right? |
| 15:05.37 | dylanm | Huh? Just iterate. |
| 15:05.39 | dylanm | pairs() |
| 15:05.53 | Bela|work | for k,v in pairs(coords) |
| 15:06.32 | Bela|work | k = your key which is in that example "22x100" |
| 15:06.40 | Bela|work | v is the data from that key |
| 15:07.19 | Bela|work | you could also drop any decimal and round your points to whole numbers before using them as a key |
| 15:07.20 | dylanm | lua> for k,v in pairs{["1x2"] = "Silver", ["3x1"] = "Gold" } do print(format("Coord: %s Ore: %s", k, v)) end |
| 15:07.21 | lua_bot | dylanm: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'format' (a nil value) |
| 15:07.25 | Bela|work | for some limited fuzzy logic |
| 15:07.46 | Bela|work | and then store the actual x and y in the data |
| 15:08.07 | cogumel0 | I understand what you mean Bela|work... |
| 15:08.20 | Bela|work | x,y = 432.32, 212.45; |
| 15:08.22 | Bela|work | round those |
| 15:08.26 | Bela|work | to get your key |
| 15:08.34 | cogumel0 | but my problem is also kind of another one. |
| 15:09.03 | cogumel0 | I will need to cycle through all of the items in the table |
| 15:09.03 | Bela|work | coords["430x200"] = {x = 432.32, y = 212.45} |
| 15:09.23 | Bela|work | you can't use pairs? |
| 15:09.24 | dylanm | cogumel0: Look at my example. |
| 15:10.28 | dylanm | It would work if format existed for the bot. I would correct it but I don't want to spam. |
| 15:10.28 | dylanm | Iterating through it is not an issue. |
| 15:10.28 | Bela|work | for k,v in pairs(coords) do newCoords[k] = v; end |
| 15:10.29 | cogumel0 | what I mean is do a for to cycle through all of the elements in that table |
| 15:10.35 | Bela|work | thats what that does |
| 15:10.37 | dylanm | Do you know what pairs is |
| 15:10.38 | cogumel0 | ohh |
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| 15:11.10 | cogumel0 | I'm not sure what pairs does |
| 15:11.17 | cogumel0 | not sure I know* |
| 15:11.37 | dylanm | lua> for k,v in pairs{["1x2"] = "Silver", ["3x1"] = "Gold" } do print(("Coord: %s Ore: %s"):format(k, v)) end |
| 15:11.37 | lua_bot | dylanm: Coord: 3x1 Ore: Gold, Coord: 1x2 Ore: Silver |
| 15:12.53 | Bela|work | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-pairs |
| 15:13.46 | Bela|work | its a for loop that handles tables that have any number of different types of keys, not ordered indexes |
| 15:14.26 | Nom- | WoW is taking a really long time to exit |
| 15:14.29 | Nom- | Compared to usualy |
| 15:14.30 | cogumel0 | ahh, I see. |
| 15:15.02 | Bela|work | ipairs(YourTable) is the equivalent for tables that do use integers |
| 15:16.50 | cogumel0 | lol, that makes it slightly more easy than I expected :P |
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| 15:18.56 | zenzelezz | QQs as WoWI doesn't want to give him DevTools/MSBT |
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| 15:20.09 | frop | yello |
| 15:20.29 | frop | anyone know how many ppl can join AV now? |
| 15:20.41 | frop | it's for join 5ppl parties? |
| 15:21.18 | dylanm | 5 max. |
| 15:21.40 | frop | so...preformAV still needed :) |
| 15:26.12 | Nom- | hmmmm i can't even log in on my pally now |
| 15:26.15 | Nom- | *sigh* |
| 15:26.27 | Nom- | I hate patch day. |
| 15:27.41 | cogumel0 | so, Bela|work or dylanm, how do I still check if something is in 1 specific cord? like, a function that just checks if k,v has ore on it and receives k,v |
| 15:28.22 | Nom- | Argh. I think my whole realm just bit the dust. |
| 15:28.41 | dylanm | I don't fully understand your question. Does the fact that Table["1x3"] works help? |
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| 15:30.07 | cogumel0 | I know that Table["1x3"] helps, but do I have to build k,v into a string like i = k .. "x" .. v |
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| 15:30.22 | cogumel0 | or is there an easier way to do it? |
| 15:31.00 | cogumel0 | lol, I read your statement wrong :P |
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| 15:31.37 | cogumel0 | I mean... now that there's an X in the middle of K and V, I surely can't just do if Table[k,v] == "Ore" then ... |
| 15:32.11 | cogumel0 | and doing if Table[k .. "x" .. v] == "Ore" then ... seems rather stupid |
| 15:32.38 | Josh_Borke | ooo, i wanna bash on stupidity |
| 15:32.41 | Josh_Borke | summary! |
| 15:33.04 | dylanm | You get a value with one key, not two. |
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| 15:33.45 | cogumel0 | I mean, Table["20x100"] = "Ore" k = 20, v = 100 |
| 15:34.34 | cogumel0 | isn't that how your example worked? |
| 15:34.54 | dylanm | You could, in fact, use tables as your keys. |
| 15:35.07 | dylanm | Like Table[{20,100}] if we set it up that way. |
| 15:35.17 | dylanm | Otherwise... you either store it in the value or you split the string. |
| 15:36.12 | cogumel0 | you just confused me. |
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| 15:36.49 | clad|office | every table has one key (k) and one value (v) |
| 15:37.00 | cogumel0 | so Table[k] = v ? |
| 15:37.16 | clad|office | that is how tables are implemented, yes. |
| 15:37.21 | clad|office | so if you want to have a composite key |
| 15:37.24 | clad|office | you have to implement that yourself |
| 15:37.30 | cogumel0 | ok, wasn't too sure what the k, v standed for, that's where the confusion came from |
| 15:37.33 | clad|office | either by making a string like x .. "x" .. v |
| 15:37.39 | clad|office | or making a new table {x,y} |
| 15:37.45 | clad|office | (sorry that should ahev been a y not a v :P |
| 15:37.53 | cogumel0 | yeah :P |
| 15:38.17 | kergoth | is the fact that GetSpellLink() can fail on some spells a known issue? |
| 15:38.23 | kergoth | cooldownbuttons keeps erroring cause of it |
| 15:38.33 | cogumel0 | so k was always a string == X .. "x" .. Y in the above examples ? -.- |
| 15:38.59 | dylanm | Yeah. |
| 15:39.04 | clad|office | yep |
| 15:39.06 | dylanm | I was just riffing off what what Bela|work was saying. |
| 15:39.10 | clad|office | *nod* |
| 15:40.25 | cogumel0 | umm |
| 15:41.50 | cogumel0 | but is there a way of knowing what the index of a certain key inside a table is? |
| 15:42.02 | clad|office | keys don't have indexes |
| 15:42.13 | cogumel0 | but tables have, right? |
| 15:42.23 | clad|office | the indices of a table, are keys |
| 15:42.27 | cogumel0 | because I still need to work with #Table |
| 15:42.33 | dylanm | Why? |
| 15:42.34 | cogumel0 | won't that always return an index? |
| 15:42.35 | clad|office | why? |
| 15:42.41 | clad|office | stop tellnig us how you want to implement it |
| 15:42.45 | clad|office | tell us what you want to do |
| 15:42.48 | clad|office | without codespeak :p |
| 15:42.52 | cogumel0 | ok ok |
| 15:43.17 | cogumel0 | user creates a dot by giving xCoord,yCoord |
| 15:43.24 | clad|office | yes |
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| 15:43.54 | cogumel0 | dot is created on the map. when a dot is deleted, because frames can't be deleted, I change the show to false and reuse it when the user wants to create a new dot |
| 15:44.22 | cogumel0 | so I have a variable to keep track of how many frames can be reused |
| 15:45.02 | cogumel0 | and now that I think of it, won't this way kinda "break" that altogether? I mean if a Table[k] = Frame |
| 15:45.12 | cogumel0 | and k = x .. "," .. y |
| 15:45.40 | dylanm | When you do your removal, you save the frame. Pool it somewhere. |
| 15:45.45 | cogumel0 | when user gives a new coordinate, it's not going to match the k that is not visible, hence I can't reuse that frame since it's forever associated with that k? -.- |
| 15:46.25 | clad|office | well let's not combine tasks. |
| 15:46.30 | clad|office | there's the tracking of active waypoints |
| 15:46.33 | clad|office | this is problem #1 |
| 15:46.36 | clad|office | there is the pooling of frames |
| 15:46.39 | clad|office | don't even consider that righ tnow |
| 15:46.46 | cogumel0 | well it was already working |
| 15:46.47 | zenzelezz | so I just logged in after patching... |
| 15:46.52 | cogumel0 | only my keys were integers |
| 15:46.52 | clad|office | unless we're talking thousands of waypoints, it doesn't matter |
| 15:46.56 | zenzelezz | and unsurprisingly, /2 is now filled with ability links |
| 15:47.08 | clad|office | cogumel0: Okay, then how can we help, specifically. |
| 15:48.07 | cogumel0 | my only problem is I have to check if that coordinate already exists, since my keys are integers, I have to cycle through every single key to query the frame about it's position and make sure no frame has the coordinates that the use is trying to enter |
| 15:48.35 | clad|office | so have another table, that is just a mapping from composite coordinate to true |
| 15:48.51 | clad|office | every time you add a coordinate, set the value, everytime you delete one, clear it |
| 15:49.02 | cogumel0 | the way I'm doing it, that means every single time the user creates a new dot, I have to cycle through all the dots to check the coordinatesº |
| 15:49.20 | clad|office | so make a composite key |
| 15:49.25 | cogumel0 | the problem is not really the creating/deleting coordinates, just making sure I do not allow repeated coordinates to exist |
| 15:49.31 | clad|office | they're teh asme problem |
| 15:49.34 | cogumel0 | a composite key? |
| 15:49.36 | clad|office | since you check it when they're set |
| 15:49.37 | clad|office | yes |
| 15:49.39 | dylanm | That's what Bela's solution quickly checks. |
| 15:49.56 | cogumel0 | I don't know what that is though -_-' |
| 15:49.56 | clad|office | aye |
| 15:50.07 | cogumel0 | ohh lol |
| 15:50.10 | cogumel0 | forget it |
| 15:50.13 | cogumel0 | omg, I'm sleeping still |
| 15:50.46 | cogumel0 | well yeah that's an idea, but it kinda complicates things a bit on the other side |
| 15:51.26 | cogumel0 | doesn't that mean... |
| 15:51.36 | cogumel0 | that to delete a coordinate |
| 15:52.19 | cogumel0 | I have to do something like FrameToReuse[i] = Table[k]; Table[k] = nil ? |
| 15:56.39 | cogumel0 | -.- |
| 15:57.03 | dylanm | Pretty much. Doesn't seem that bad to me. |
| 15:57.18 | Bela|work | you COULD create two tables you know |
| 15:57.29 | Bela|work | continue using the table you have now, and have another table, that indexes the first one |
| 15:57.43 | Bela|work | MyPoints[1] = frame |
| 15:57.53 | Bela|work | MyCoords["200x100"] = 1 |
| 15:57.58 | cogumel0 | I see |
| 15:58.02 | cogumel0 | that might be easier |
| 15:58.18 | cogumel0 | seems I'll always have to use 2 tables anyway |
| 15:58.29 | Bela|work | I still think you COULD use a single table, but if it seems like too much of a rewrite, that might be easier |
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| 15:59.24 | schnoggo | ah better |
| 15:59.34 | Bela|work | the second solution will be interesting because your index will change when you move a frame |
| 15:59.39 | cogumel0 | Bela|work, I can't see how because of the part where I delete the coordinates and have to reutilize the frames, I have to keep track of which frames need to be reutilized somehow. |
| 15:59.54 | Bela|work | like if MyPoints[1] is getting moved from 200,100 to 300,100 |
| 16:00.20 | Bela|work | then MyCoords["300x100"] = 1; MyCoords["200x100"] = nil; |
| 16:00.25 | cogumel0 | yeah |
| 16:00.53 | Bela|work | but you could still keep a pool of frames that way |
| 16:00.55 | Bela|work | and limit it |
| 16:01.00 | cogumel0 | Bela|work, there's not much to change, but I just can't see how to do it with 1 table only |
| 16:01.24 | Bela|work | you would have to iterate the table, and use a counter |
| 16:01.32 | Bela|work | as well as a check |
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| 16:02.02 | Bela|work | if in fact you were doing MyCoords[x.."x"..y] = frame |
| 16:02.08 | Bela|work | then you would do |
| 16:03.55 | Bela|work | local frameCount = 0; |
| 16:03.55 | Bela|work | for k,v in pairs(MyCoords) do |
| 16:03.55 | Bela|work | frameCount = frameCount + 1; if (not v:IsVisible()) then UseThisFrameOrSomething(); end |
| 16:03.55 | Bela|work | end |
| 16:04.40 | Bela|work | you could get more elegant with it |
| 16:05.04 | Bela|work | like checking for the number of frames present, as well as passing the current number to the user function |
| 16:05.20 | cogumel0 | wouldn't it use more cpu to have it iterate the table everytime create a "new" coordinate rather than have 2 table, one keeping the frames currently in use and 1 keeping the frames to be reused? |
| 16:05.41 | Bela|work | store your frame count |
| 16:05.55 | clad|office | unless we're talking thousands of waypoints, you shouldn't even be considering the world optimization, *shrug* |
| 16:05.57 | Bela|work | keep a list of frames that get hidden |
| 16:06.06 | Bela|work | so you dont have to iterate to check |
| 16:06.28 | cogumel0 | but again, keeping a list of frames, doesn't that come down to using another table still? |
| 16:06.38 | dylanm | Unless you're adding points constantly that's not a huge issue. |
| 16:06.44 | dylanm | In any event it's an issue for later. |
| 16:07.09 | Bela|work | technically sure it is, but it is still more efficient imho |
| 16:07.30 | Bela|work | but you could do it either way without any real hit to performance |
| 16:07.40 | Bela|work | what you are talking about doing wouldn't require an iterate that often |
| 16:07.48 | Bela|work | only when the user creates a point |
| 16:08.03 | dylanm | If you were doing this in an OnUpdate there would be more yelling. |
| 16:08.05 | cogumel0 | or when the zone changes -.- |
| 16:08.10 | Bela|work | aye |
| 16:08.15 | Bela|work | entierh of which happens that fast |
| 16:08.22 | Bela|work | neither* |
| 16:09.05 | cogumel0 | well it's meant to sometimes automatically add a dot/frame when a user kills a mob, you don't want any delay there |
| 16:09.25 | Bela|work | the issue here isn't how fast it has to get done |
| 16:09.29 | Bela|work | its how often you are doing it |
| 16:09.40 | cogumel0 | as you might be killing 2 at the same time and the delay happens right after you kill one of them, can lead to your death, trust me, I have an addon that does that, has killed me more than once :( |
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| 16:09.57 | Bela|work | if you needed it to add a point 10 times per second, you would have a problem |
| 16:09.57 | Industrial | hmm.. How do i move the worldframe again? |
| 16:10.21 | Bela|work | thats what testing is for |
| 16:10.30 | Bela|work | but I highly doubt you will get a frameskip with this code |
| 16:10.33 | Industrial | local c=WorldFrame c:ClearAllPoints() c:SetPoint('TOPLEFT') c:SetPoint('BOTTOMRIGHT', 0, -100) doesnt seem to work |
| 16:11.14 | foxlit | Why not SetWidth/SetRight? |
| 16:11.43 | dylanm | What happens exactly |
| 16:11.49 | dylanm | Try doing it without the ClearAllPoints |
| 16:11.51 | Industrial | I just want it to be a bit smaller vertically but SetHeight only doesnt work |
| 16:11.52 | dylanm | I know this sounds crazy |
| 16:12.14 | cogumel0 | so which would you recommend? a) Table[x .. "," .. y] = Frame; FrameToBeReused = Table[x .. "," .. y] or b) Table[1] = Frame MyCoords[x .. "," .. y] = 1 ? |
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| 16:12.53 | Cairenn|afk | dylanm: yes |
| 16:13.04 | Apoco | Cairenn|afk > Get my msg? |
| 16:13.14 | Cairenn|afk | yeah |
| 16:13.25 | Apoco | kk |
| 16:14.48 | cogumel0 | Bela|work, did you see my last question? |
| 16:14.58 | Industrial | dylanm: apparently it works if I setpoint to UIParent? :p |
| 16:17.05 | Bela|work | they both do the same thing ultimately |
| 16:17.12 | Bela|work | its up to you how you want to use them |
| 16:17.17 | Bela|work | or which si easier for you |
| 16:17.25 | foxlit | Questiong |
| 16:17.54 | foxlit | WoW-2.3.3.7799-to-2.4.0.8089-engb-patch.exe |
| 16:18.01 | Bela|work | if you use example a, FrameToBeReused can be a local |
| 16:18.09 | Bela|work | which is better on performance |
| 16:18.11 | foxlit | Where the heck are people getting .exe versions from, when the downloaders seem to be aimed at mpq torrents? |
| 16:18.17 | Bela|work | example b would need both to be stored globally |
| 16:19.00 | cogumel0 | actually a) might be easier because ultimately I'd still have to iterate the table to find out which frames could be reused |
| 16:19.01 | Bela|work | foxlit: there are full patchers, check FilePlanet for examples |
| 16:19.29 | Bela|work | cogumel0: not if you keep a list of frames you had hidden separately |
| 16:19.39 | Bela|work | no iteration needed there, since you just use the first one available in that list |
| 16:19.50 | foxlit | Bela|work: this one appears to be marked as an incremental from 2.3.3 |
| 16:19.51 | Bela|work | and if none are available, make a new one |
| 16:19.55 | cogumel0 | which would ultimately mean yet another table since I'll be dealing with hundreds of them |
| 16:19.58 | foxlit | The odd thing is, they aren't digitally signed |
| 16:20.04 | Bela|work | right |
| 16:20.33 | cogumel0 | so it's basically... having 3 tables with 1 doing absolutely nothing VS having 2 tables and doing exactly the same only with 1 table less |
| 16:20.33 | Bela|work | there are drawbacks to both |
| 16:20.46 | Bela|work | in one case, you ahve to iterate every time you want to look for an unused frame |
| 16:20.56 | Bela|work | in the other case, you will already know if there is an unused frame |
| 16:21.00 | Bela|work | but you have one more table |
| 16:21.26 | ralfWORK | uhm |
| 16:21.28 | ralfWORK | are forums down? |
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| 16:21.56 | cogumel0 | well, not quite iterate... |
| 16:22.00 | ralfWORK | wow. guess it is |
| 16:22.02 | ralfWORK | wtf blizz |
| 16:22.12 | cogumel0 | not if I keep a table just for the frames to be used |
| 16:22.20 | ralfWORK | guess I get to actulaly get work don now |
| 16:22.49 | Apoco | so its official, dolby-wowi and Cairenn|afk are married |
| 16:22.58 | Apoco | don't let them say any different |
| 16:23.06 | ralfWORK | o rly? |
| 16:23.08 | Cairenn|afk | rofl |
| 16:24.01 | schnoggo | man, I'll bet Cairenn's husband would find that interesting news... |
| 16:24.32 | Apoco | I bet |
| 16:24.48 | Apoco | lol |
| 16:25.13 | cogumel0 | well, suppose i'll always have to iterate to find the first non-used frame, but the cycle will be much smaller. |
| 16:26.01 | cogumel0 | actually... if #Table == 10 and I do Table[10] = nil, will #Table change to 9 ? |
| 16:27.05 | schnoggo | anyone familiar with astrolabe have a second for some silly questions? |
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| 16:27.50 | schnoggo | glances at clad|office |
| 16:27.53 | cog|work | schnoggo: you might try #norganna too |
| 16:28.05 | clad|office | what about astrolabe? |
| 16:28.11 | schnoggo | slaps forhead |
| 16:29.30 | schnoggo | PlaceIconOnWorldMap() - can't seem to pass the right sort of frame to make is happy for second parameter... "icon" |
| 16:29.43 | cogumel0 | nice, if I always use #FramesToBeReused and then set it to nil, which I would have to do anyway, I don't ever have to iterate any table :) |
| 16:29.49 | clad|office | schnoggo: make it a button |
| 16:30.04 | clad|office | schnoggo: also, how are you calling it, paste the line here |
| 16:31.39 | schnoggo | pastey is a bit sluggish... |
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| 16:32.03 | Cairenn|afk | that's cause it's hosted by norganna, and they're getting slammed too, no doubt |
| 16:32.04 | clad|office | it shoudl justy be one line |
| 16:32.05 | clad|office | paste it here |
| 16:32.08 | schnoggo | heh |
| 16:32.13 | clad|office | i dont need the surrounding code |
| 16:32.17 | clad|office | or if i do, we'll deal with it :P |
| 16:32.19 | schnoggo | ok - original frame is worldTarget=CreateFrame("Button", "SimpleCoordsWorldTargetFrame",UIParent )-- WorldMapDetailFrame |
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| 16:32.51 | schnoggo | and in an event handler i do the deed: |
| 16:32.52 | schnoggo | local world_result=Astrolabe:PlaceIconOnWorldMap( worldMapFrame, self, ppContinent, ppZone, dest_x, dest_y ) |
| 16:33.08 | Cairenn|afk | blizz forums down for others? |
| 16:33.17 | clad|office | astrolabe isn't OO |
| 16:33.18 | clad|office | don't call : |
| 16:33.19 | schnoggo | self = worldTarget |
| 16:33.21 | schnoggo | ah |
| 16:33.24 | clad|office | its Astrolabe.PlaceIconOnWorldMap |
| 16:33.41 | schnoggo | knew is was going to be silly |
| 16:34.19 | clad|office | anytime you get an issue like that int he first or second argument |
| 16:34.24 | clad|office | check the . versus :P |
| 16:34.56 | schnoggo | That's why I rarely use libs :) |
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| 16:36.37 | Tem | Shirik|zZz, ping |
| 16:39.08 | Dotted | is away (kd3 - whee squid just went splat) |
| 16:39.37 | Cairenn | hey Dotoff? |
| 16:39.56 | Cairenn | would you mind disabling that auto away script, please? |
| 16:40.18 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 16:40.34 | mikma | kick hiiiiiim |
| 16:40.35 | ScytheBlade1 | For a moment there I thought you - I have no idea where I was headed with that |
| 16:40.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Rather, I did, but I just lost it... |
| 16:40.47 | Cairenn | rofl! |
| 16:40.59 | ScytheBlade1 | wanders around aimlessly looking for medicine |
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| 16:42.40 | haste | Cairenn: I bet that highlight would be 110% more efficient if you had done it in one line! |
| 16:42.57 | Cairenn | meh |
| 16:43.17 | mikma | Dotoff: disable your away-script assclown |
| 16:43.24 | mikma | now it's 120% |
| 16:43.32 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 16:43.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Points for style |
| 16:43.43 | Cairenn | lol |
| 16:43.57 | mikma | he can take that, he's a curse-dork |
| 16:44.03 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 16:44.12 | schnoggo | clad|office: another Q is you don't mind... Astrolabe.GetCurrentPlayerPosition() returns '3zone6' for continent. PlaceIconOnWorldMap() apparently doesn't like that for {continent}... |
| 16:45.10 | clad|office | huh? |
| 16:45.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow |
| 16:45.17 | ScytheBlade1 | My server is 63% done with the first phase already |
| 16:45.18 | clad|office | GetCurrentPlayerPosition returns a c,z,x,y |
| 16:45.25 | clad|office | doesn't it? |
| 16:45.25 | ralfWORK | so I'm confused |
| 16:45.34 | ralfWORK | I thought the phases were fixed timeline |
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| 16:47.22 | clad|office | schnoggo: return GetCurrentMapContinent(), GetCurrentMapZone(), x, y; |
| 16:47.25 | schnoggo | hmmm |
| 16:47.26 | clad|office | thats what it returns |
| 16:47.31 | clad|office | you can pass those directly back in |
| 16:50.07 | zenzelezz | ralfWORK: what phases? |
| 16:50.24 | ralfWORK | zenzelezz: the "unlocking crap" phases |
| 16:50.41 | zenzelezz | I may be wrong; but I thought those were interactive, but the bosses in the raid are fixed |
| 16:51.08 | schnoggo | local continent, zone, x, y=Astrolabe.GetCurrentPlayerPosition(); |
| 16:51.17 | schnoggo | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("continent:"..continent .. ", zone:"..zone, 0.8, 1.0, 0.5, 1); |
| 16:51.23 | ralfWORK | ahh |
| 16:51.24 | ralfWORK | ok |
| 16:51.30 | schnoggo | gives: "continent:3, zone:6" |
| 16:51.40 | schnoggo | local world_result=Astrolabe.PlaceIconOnWorldMap( worldMapFrame, self, continent, zone, dest_x, dest_y ) |
| 16:51.40 | clad|office | yes |
| 16:51.46 | schnoggo | bad arg #3... |
| 16:52.00 | clad|office | what does the error actually say |
| 16:52.24 | schnoggo | Table expected, got number |
| 16:52.31 | clad|office | yes |
| 16:52.33 | clad|office | that's referring to self |
| 16:52.36 | clad|office | okay |
| 16:52.41 | clad|office | it looks like they are OO calls |
| 16:52.45 | clad|office | so maek it a : again |
| 16:52.46 | clad|office | *sigh* |
| 16:52.48 | schnoggo | heh |
| 16:52.51 | clad|office | sorry for misleading you |
| 16:52.53 | schnoggo | np |
| 16:53.06 | schnoggo | glad for the help |
| 16:53.33 | schnoggo | just trying to add some features in between wowinterface trafic surges :) |
| 16:54.39 | schnoggo | ah - my self is nil! doh. |
| 16:54.43 | clad|office | heh |
| 16:54.49 | schnoggo | thanks for the help |
| 16:55.53 | clad|office | np |
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| 16:58.24 | onNiKs | hi |
| 16:58.34 | onNiKs | does someone knows wy my Questhelper aint working ? |
| 16:59.05 | Cairenn | have you updated to the latest version? |
| 16:59.25 | onNiKs | well i did load out of date |
| 16:59.33 | onNiKs | and it didnt work |
| 16:59.35 | onNiKs | wat now ? |
| 16:59.35 | Cairenn | update it |
| 16:59.38 | onNiKs | how ? |
| 16:59.48 | Bela|work | same way you downloaded it |
| 16:59.51 | Bela|work | just do it again |
| 17:00.00 | onNiKs | i did downloaded again |
| 17:00.04 | Cairenn | from where? |
| 17:00.07 | Bela|work | then you did update it |
| 17:00.07 | onNiKs | uhm |
| 17:00.13 | onNiKs | not curse |
| 17:00.14 | onNiKs | other site |
| 17:00.21 | onNiKs | cant get on curse to download :S |
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| 17:00.29 | onNiKs | is there an other site ? |
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| 17:01.13 | onNiKs | ? |
| 17:01.31 | onNiKs | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/addons/ it aint work :S |
| 17:01.52 | Cairenn | just be patient, all the sites are getting hammered right now |
| 17:02.01 | Cairenn | everyone trying to get their updates, the same as you |
| 17:02.42 | onNiKs | oh k |
| 17:02.45 | onNiKs | ^^ |
| 17:03.10 | onNiKs | btw how to change the ram Mb wow can use ? |
| 17:03.19 | onNiKs | i remember you could change that |
| 17:03.21 | onNiKs | but how ? |
| 17:03.26 | ralfWORK | so stupid question |
| 17:03.31 | onNiKs | ? |
| 17:03.33 | ralfWORK | can't believe I'm asking actually |
| 17:03.40 | ralfWORK | can you swap trinkets in combat? |
| 17:04.24 | Bela|work | believe so yes |
| 17:04.26 | cogumel0 | you can swap them in combat, but if the trinkets have an onUse, it has a CD |
| 17:04.32 | Bela|work | correct |
| 17:04.34 | cogumel0 | 40secs if I'm not mistaken |
| 17:04.37 | ralfWORK | cogumel0: ahhh right gotcha |
| 17:05.00 | ralfWORK | hmm |
| 17:05.01 | cogumel0 | exactly to prevent ppl changing trinkets all the time :P |
| 17:05.05 | foxlit | No |
| 17:05.07 | ralfWORK | ponders how to make this fact useful |
| 17:05.10 | foxlit | You can't swap trinkets in combat |
| 17:05.19 | ralfWORK | oh? |
| 17:05.29 | ralfWORK | see I thought you could only swap weapons personally |
| 17:05.32 | cogumel0 | you can foxlit, maybe not in arena, but outside arena on a normal combat you can |
| 17:05.52 | foxlit | Cog: It's weapons only |
| 17:05.56 | cogumel0 | o.O |
| 17:05.59 | cogumel0 | they changed it again? :( |
| 17:06.20 | cogumel0 | goes and tests it |
| 17:06.27 | foxlit | You never could. |
| 17:06.42 | ralfWORK | well, I'm glad that there's at least confusion about this topic |
| 17:06.50 | ralfWORK | I was feeling like a nub cause I didn't know :D |
| 17:06.52 | Cide | there is no confusion |
| 17:06.59 | Cide | you can only swap weapons in combat |
| 17:07.02 | Cide | never trinkets |
| 17:07.12 | ralfWORK | *cough* |
| 17:07.24 | ralfWORK | Bela|work and cogumel0 disagree :) |
| 17:07.31 | Cide | ya, but I'm always right |
| 17:07.32 | ralfWORK | that's cool though |
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| 17:08.08 | Cide | trinket swapping was possible for rogues and hunters though, since they could drop out of combat |
| 17:08.22 | ralfWORK | ah, nice footnote |
| 17:08.26 | ralfWORK | that makes sense |
| 17:09.55 | cogumel0 | lol |
| 17:10.02 | cogumel0 | ok, you can't swap trinkets in combat -.- |
| 17:10.06 | cogumel0 | however!! |
| 17:10.07 | ralfWORK | hhahaah |
| 17:10.16 | cogumel0 | there's 1 thing you can swap apart from weapons xD |
| 17:10.24 | ralfWORK | shield? |
| 17:10.24 | cogumel0 | so that makes me not totally wrong... and you not totally right xD |
| 17:10.29 | ralfWORK | ahahahaah |
| 17:10.30 | cogumel0 | shield is kind of a weapon |
| 17:10.31 | ralfWORK | tabards! |
| 17:10.32 | ralfWORK | shirt! |
| 17:10.34 | cogumel0 | lol |
| 17:10.40 | ralfWORK | guilds! |
| 17:10.46 | ralfWORK | you can swap guilds in combat! |
| 17:10.53 | cogumel0 | it's not equippable! -.- |
| 17:11.01 | dylanm | Ummm what else on the character info screen... titles! |
| 17:11.10 | ralfWORK | titties! |
| 17:11.12 | ralfWORK | oh titles nm |
| 17:11.18 | [Ammo] | titties |
| 17:11.19 | [Ammo] | zomg |
| 17:11.19 | cogumel0 | shrush, something that you equip? -.- |
| 17:11.23 | [Ammo] | swap them titties in combat |
| 17:11.27 | ralfWORK | omg |
| 17:11.31 | ralfWORK | good good |
| 17:11.34 | cogumel0 | idols/totems |
| 17:11.39 | cogumel0 | not a weapon :P |
| 17:11.50 | Cide | yes they are |
| 17:11.50 | Cide | they replace wands |
| 17:11.57 | cogumel0 | well... but... I mean... |
| 17:12.00 | cogumel0 | you can't atk with it! |
| 17:12.02 | cogumel0 | nor defend |
| 17:12.06 | Cide | so what? |
| 17:12.19 | cogumel0 | looks up definition of weapon on dictionary |
| 17:12.21 | cogumel0 | xD |
| 17:12.21 | Cide | can't attack with various fish offhands either |
| 17:12.22 | cogumel0 | lol |
| 17:12.34 | cogumel0 | ok, ok fair enough |
| 17:12.48 | cogumel0 | but... |
| 17:12.53 | cogumel0 | I'm still partially right |
| 17:13.03 | Cide | but I'm completely right |
| 17:13.06 | cogumel0 | whenever you equip an item that has an onUse, you still have a CD on that item! xD |
| 17:13.06 | ralfWORK | rofl |
| 17:13.20 | cogumel0 | on the use of that item* |
| 17:13.37 | ralfWORK | I hate on use items that share CDs |
| 17:13.40 | ralfWORK | those make me sad :( |
| 17:13.50 | cogumel0 | what u mean? |
| 17:13.52 | cogumel0 | like what? |
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| 17:14.02 | ralfWORK | like 2 trinks that have an on use of increasing damage |
| 17:14.09 | cogumel0 | and they share CDs? |
| 17:14.10 | ralfWORK | can't pop them at the same time, iirc |
| 17:14.16 | ralfWORK | well kinda sorta |
| 17:14.17 | cogumel0 | umm... what they did to shaman in 2.4 is worse ... |
| 17:14.30 | ralfWORK | the ones I had (this was a long time ago) |
| 17:14.32 | cogumel0 | 10 secs CD between elemental mastery and nature swiftness ... |
| 17:14.43 | ralfWORK | when you popped one, the other one s tarted a shorter cooldown |
| 17:14.49 | ralfWORK | basically so the effects couldn't be stacked |
| 17:15.03 | cogumel0 | well, they did the same on a whole class this time, not just some trinkets -.- |
| 17:15.09 | ralfWORK | I *think* it was like, if the first on-use lasted 30s, it started a 30s CD on the other item |
| 17:15.21 | cogumel0 | and I happen(ned) to play that class |
| 17:15.25 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 17:15.34 | cogumel0 | re-rolled war ftw |
| 17:15.39 | ralfWORK | naw |
| 17:15.46 | ralfWORK | I got too much invested in my priest |
| 17:15.49 | ralfWORK | won't reroll anything |
| 17:16.01 | cogumel0 | always getting pvts "hey plz master, tank this instance for me?? plz plz plz? we pay you?" |
| 17:16.16 | ralfWORK | don't even want to think about how much /played I have |
| 17:16.21 | ralfWORK | heh |
| 17:16.26 | ralfWORK | yea, warriors get that |
| 17:16.31 | cogumel0 | well the shaman wasn't 70 anyway ... |
| 17:16.34 | ralfWORK | I do have a baby warrior |
| 17:16.36 | cogumel0 | it was 68. lol |
| 17:16.41 | ralfWORK | I get the tells sometimes |
| 17:16.45 | ralfWORK | I'm like "sure!" |
| 17:16.55 | ralfWORK | and after we win I tell them I'm not prot ;) |
| 17:17.02 | cogumel0 | it was 68... when I saw the 2.4 release notes |
| 17:17.35 | cogumel0 | as soon as I saw it I was like: OMG! it's time to awake the war in me |
| 17:19.09 | Apoco | Does anyone know how long the Kalecgos portals stay up? |
| 17:20.32 | Cide | not very long |
| 17:20.39 | Cide | 15s maybe? |
| 17:20.46 | kd3 | something like that, ya |
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| 17:21.39 | Apoco | is there really a downtime of 5sec between portals? |
| 17:21.43 | Apoco | It seemed longer than that |
| 17:22.09 | Apoco | but maybe not |
| 17:22.15 | Cide | it's like 20s between portals |
| 17:22.18 | Cide | or so |
| 17:23.06 | Apoco | yeah |
| 17:23.08 | Apoco | thats the cooldown |
| 17:23.20 | Apoco | we got screwed last night went the first 70 seconds in the fight before a portal opened |
| 17:24.01 | Apoco | then another fight the first group to be ported was back uptop before he ported someone else |
| 17:24.27 | ralfWORK | I so don't think I follow |
| 17:24.46 | dylanm | Apoco are you in Nurfed? |
| 17:25.08 | Apoco | not raiding with them right now |
| 17:25.13 | Apoco | I'm active on their boards though |
| 17:25.20 | dylanm | Yeah that's why I asked. |
| 17:25.27 | dylanm | Just curious. |
| 17:25.49 | Apoco | hehe |
| 17:25.54 | Apoco | I'm raiding with Simple Math right now |
| 17:26.02 | Apoco | on mah huntard |
| 17:26.42 | Cide | no wonder you can't get the numbers straight |
| 17:27.30 | Apoco | lol |
| 17:27.58 | Apoco | I have a horrible sense of time |
| 17:28.36 | cogumel0 | yay Bela|work, got this working without doing any iteration :) |
| 17:29.01 | cogumel0 | 2 tables, 1 for the frames to be reused and the other as you suggested |
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| 17:29.19 | cogumel0 | it never has to cycle through the whole table, not when you add, not when you delete, never :) |
| 17:30.44 | Bela|work | nice |
| 17:30.47 | cogumel0 | thx for the help guys |
| 17:31.12 | cogumel0 | actually there always has to be 1 cycle regardless ... |
| 17:31.16 | cogumel0 | but there's no way around that |
| 17:31.20 | cogumel0 | when you change zone |
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| 17:45.25 | Industrial | how do you start sporregar quests again? |
| 17:45.36 | Industrial | its unfriendly but I dunno how to start getting rep |
| 17:45.41 | Industrial | I have 20 or so glowcap tho |
| 17:45.52 | mikma | Industrial: south from the sporeggar is a place that is filled with giants |
| 17:45.56 | [dRaCo] | you can just grind those giants |
| 17:46.06 | mikma | Industrial: around there is 3-4 different quests for that area. |
| 17:46.07 | Industrial | until I get freidnly or something? |
| 17:46.17 | Lunessa | There's two quest from a Sporregar guy there too. |
| 17:46.17 | mikma | Industrial: 1. kill giants gather stuff, 2. gather mushroom ... |
| 17:46.17 | Industrial | Yeah I did the quests already |
| 17:46.23 | Industrial | hm k |
| 17:46.26 | [dRaCo] | neutral is enough for them to talk to you |
| 17:46.29 | mikma | Industrial: repeatable quests |
| 17:47.51 | Lunessa | They have quests for you to kill naga, and some dungeon quests. |
| 17:48.15 | Lunessa | When you get to exalted, I think their tame bog giant has a quest for you too. |
| 17:48.42 | ralfWORK | god I don't know why anyone would do that :( |
| 17:48.42 | cogumel0 | how do I save the contents of a table onto a file and retrieve them? |
| 17:48.45 | Lopeppeppy | Mushroom faction for the win! |
| 17:49.30 | Industrial | wtb earthshock 5 sec silence |
| 17:49.32 | Industrial | >:P |
| 17:49.38 | Industrial | 2 sec is too damn short |
| 17:49.50 | Industrial | everyone just repeats their last spell like 'ha ha so ill do it anyway' |
| 17:49.58 | dylanm | I like the tabard. |
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| 17:50.26 | cogumel0 | Industrial, that's very true, specially when rogues have like 10 ways of stopping casting |
| 17:50.34 | kd3 | I only got to exalted for the sporebat |
| 17:50.48 | kd3 | dunno if anything's going to replace my scarlet crusade tabard |
| 17:50.50 | cogumel0 | and imp kick even gives full silence regardless of whether you are casting or not -.- |
| 17:51.13 | ralfWORK | dunno, I like the tabard you got when BC came out |
| 17:51.18 | ralfWORK | has a sweet on-use :) |
| 17:51.20 | Lopeppeppy | I need to kill the guy who ninja'd my tabard from the Scarlet Monastery |
| 17:51.32 | Lunessa | Kill me now... http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/03/26/funny-pictures-im-in-ur/ |
| 17:51.50 | ralfWORK | Lunessa: ahaahahh yes! |
| 17:52.17 | Industrial | lolol |
| 17:52.30 | Lunessa | I have run that place so many billions of times... and still no tabbard. |
| 17:52.32 | Lopeppeppy | euthanizes Lunessa gently. |
| 17:52.42 | Lunessa | goes peacefully to sleep. |
| 17:52.43 | ralfWORK | you know the best thing about ichc |
| 17:52.47 | Cairenn | hah! I like that one! |
| 17:52.53 | Lopeppeppy | Me too. Came off the peons in Herod's room. |
| 17:52.55 | ralfWORK | no one ever uses standard english in the comments |
| 17:52.59 | ralfWORK | I think it's great |
| 17:54.14 | ralfWORK | warrior in my guild still has his full scarlet monestary plate gear |
| 17:54.17 | ralfWORK | and tabard |
| 17:54.21 | ralfWORK | struts around town in it |
| 17:55.06 | Industrial | hm the chat frame doesnt remember settings correctly |
| 17:55.21 | Lopeppeppy | Noper, it don't. |
| 17:56.06 | NightHawkTheSane | (and it drives me batty) |
| 17:56.27 | dylanm | Heh. "Infidels!" |
| 17:56.28 | mikma | http://www.rapestop.net/ |
| 17:56.41 | ralfWORK | nsfw? |
| 17:56.49 | mikma | sfw |
| 17:56.51 | Industrial | eeep |
| 17:56.59 | Lopeppeppy | Not really, mikma.... borderline for conservative areas. |
| 17:57.01 | kd3 | nsflunch, though |
| 17:57.17 | ralfWORK | oh yes, heard of that |
| 17:57.20 | Fisker- | attacks kd3 |
| 17:57.26 | ralfWORK | that's pretty much the dumbest idea I've ever heard of |
| 17:57.37 | mikma | dumbest, and yet so cruel |
| 17:57.51 | mikma | spiked, for her pleasure... errrr |
| 17:58.05 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah.. so nsfw! *laugh* |
| 17:58.41 | ralfWORK | |
| 17:58.42 | ralfWORK | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:58.50 | ralfWORK | Yes you can, but you will not wear it when you are with your husband or partner in bed, unless you are in a violent relationship and you do get raped by your husband or partner. The choice is then yours whether to wear it or not. |
| 17:59.03 | ralfWORK | I find that to be just a little bit disturbing |
| 17:59.06 | mikma | ... |
| 17:59.08 | mikma | LITTLE? |
| 17:59.15 | Lopeppeppy | Lot. |
| 17:59.23 | ralfWORK | and this is the real thing |
| 17:59.31 | ralfWORK | "won't the rapist kill me?" |
| 17:59.48 | Lopeppeppy | Yes. But that would have happened anyway. |
| 17:59.55 | mikma | lol |
| 17:59.57 | ralfWORK | uhm, I'm thinking yes. he's going to bash your brain in after you have effectively assaulted his little man |
| 18:00.05 | ralfWORK | just keep that in mind! |
| 18:00.43 | ralfWORK | oh come on people |
| 18:00.50 | ralfWORK | "won't the man initially feel this?" |
| 18:00.59 | ralfWORK | When a rapist attacks, he looses control of his senses. He will become aware of the device when it is too late. |
| 18:01.01 | Fisker- | fail mikma |
| 18:01.07 | Fisker- | Can't the rapist simply take a pair of scissors and cut it off? |
| 18:01.07 | Fisker- | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:01.10 | mikma | ralfWORK: snap |
| 18:01.13 | ralfWORK | that's it? |
| 18:01.25 | ralfWORK | 100% of rapists loose control of their senses |
| 18:01.29 | ralfWORK | is that a fact? |
| 18:01.29 | art3mis | mikma: the make adonation logo/banner thing seems a tad out of place ;P |
| 18:01.36 | mikma | ralfWORK: http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/snap.jpg |
| 18:01.40 | Cide | and they don't lose control - they LOOSE it |
| 18:02.04 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm. Lovely. |
| 18:02.10 | ralfWORK | mikma: ouch. k. |
| 18:02.50 | ralfWORK | ahahahaah |
| 18:02.58 | ralfWORK | "is there a similar device for men?" |
| 18:03.00 | ralfWORK | AAHAHAHAH |
| 18:03.04 | ScytheBlade1 | loool |
| 18:03.26 | ralfWORK | yea, it's prototype name is "nailbat" |
| 18:03.28 | ralfWORK | rofl |
| 18:04.03 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 18:04.39 | mikma | ... |
| 18:04.52 | Fisker- | i am going to have sex with you mikma |
| 18:04.55 | Fisker- | even though you do not want to |
| 18:04.59 | mikma | "oh dear, women just keep raping me" |
| 18:05.04 | ralfWORK | rofl |
| 18:05.11 | Fisker- | and just to make sure i'll shoot you with a shotgun to make sure you're not tricking me |
| 18:05.13 | Fisker- | :o |
| 18:06.15 | ralfWORK | chastity belt > rapex condom, imo |
| 18:07.15 | Cairenn | interesting concept |
| 18:07.25 | ralfWORK | it worked 500 years ago |
| 18:07.26 | ralfWORK | it'll work today |
| 18:09.56 | ralfWORK | Cairenn: what, rapex or chastity belt? |
| 18:10.05 | Cairenn | rapex |
| 18:10.13 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 18:10.36 | ralfWORK | yea, poke a bear with a stick |
| 18:10.40 | ralfWORK | seems brilliant |
| 18:11.06 | schnoggo | so who's the primary culprit for astrolabe nowadays? Esamynn? |
| 18:11.20 | schnoggo | Be glad to help get zone info |
| 18:11.49 | Cairenn | yar, Esamynn|Away |
| 18:12.53 | art3mis | http://prague.tv/galleries/funny-pics6/cat-karate.jpg |
| 18:12.53 | schnoggo | so it says... but Cairenn|afk is often not :p |
| 18:13.11 | ralfWORK | art3mis: k thx |
| 18:14.09 | art3mis | http://www.allthepages.org/images/blog/coconut_crab.jpg |
| 18:14.27 | ralfWORK | HOLY OMG |
| 18:15.09 | Cairenn | O.O |
| 18:15.24 | Cairenn | dats a bigass crab! |
| 18:15.32 | Lopeppeppy | that's... dinner!!! |
| 18:15.49 | ralfWORK | I would crush it :( |
| 18:15.51 | ScytheBlade1 | That's an old picture, lol |
| 18:16.30 | art3mis | wonder if it tastes good |
| 18:16.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Go back to sleep |
| 18:18.03 | Lopeppeppy | art3mis, at that large it might be too tough for anything other than chowder/crab cakes/etc. |
| 18:18.20 | art3mis | http://farm1.static.flickr.com/49/152097082_a0788d18af.jpg |
| 18:18.41 | art3mis | heh tru but thats a lot of chowda |
| 18:19.36 | Lopeppeppy | What kind of crab is that last one? |
| 18:19.59 | ralfWORK | deep sea crap! |
| 18:19.59 | art3mis | japanese spider crab |
| 18:20.03 | ralfWORK | *crap |
| 18:20.13 | ralfWORK | art3mis: that's not a nice thing to call people; be nice |
| 18:20.28 | Lopeppeppy | What if I were a japanese spider? I'd be upset now. |
| 18:20.28 | ralfWORK | just because he's japanese doesn't mean you should call him a spider crab |
| 18:20.38 | ralfWORK | although he does look kinda crabby |
| 18:20.52 | art3mis | Lopeppeppy: couple of flaws in that... ;) |
| 18:21.11 | art3mis | 1. you couldnt type very fast |
| 18:21.35 | Lopeppeppy | With 8 legs? Damn I'd be faster! |
| 18:21.57 | art3mis | heh 8 legs about 3 feet from your body ;P |
| 18:22.19 | art3mis | and little itty bitty beady eyes |
| 18:22.25 | Lopeppeppy | So I move the keyboard. Those legs are multi-jointed for best ergonomic function. |
| 18:22.45 | art3mis | 2. crabs arent allow on the interwebs |
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| 18:23.00 | art3mis | allowed |
| 18:24.37 | Lopeppeppy | You would never know if I were a crab, and alien, an 8 year old boy or a grizzly bear. |
| 18:24.59 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 18:25.19 | ralfWORK | dude everyone knows that everyone on the internet is a dude |
| 18:25.59 | Lopeppeppy | Dude, everyone knows you're an 80's hippie surfer now! |
| 18:26.33 | ralfWORK | duuuuuuude |
| 18:27.35 | art3mis | that dig was like totally gnarly dudette, you sure ripcurled him! |
| 18:28.26 | art3mis | ya know i read that nick as oinks ;P |
| 18:28.41 | ralfWORK | ohh... yea it kinda looks like oinks |
| 18:28.58 | art3mis | so's yer mom! |
| 18:29.04 | art3mis | ~rimshot |
| 18:29.04 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
| 18:29.11 | ralfWORK | oh damn |
| 18:31.33 | art3mis | see see see-rah! |
| 18:31.35 | art3mis | see see see-rah! |
| 18:31.48 | art3mis | hrm |
| 18:31.53 | Cairenn | hands art3mis some pompoms |
| 18:32.05 | art3mis | you need to change yer nick to Hoorah or Sherah |
| 18:32.13 | Lopeppeppy | She-Rah |
| 18:32.27 | art3mis | thanks cairenn, i must say your pompoms are rather nice ;) |
| 18:32.33 | Cairenn | lol |
| 18:32.48 | nevcairiel | WoWI dead too now? :( |
| 18:32.59 | art3mis | nevcairiel: nope only Punk |
| 18:33.39 | MentalPower | nevcairiel: heavily hit, yes |
| 18:34.23 | art3mis | like a bong at a hippies tent |
| 18:34.53 | Tem | blame EU |
| 18:35.46 | art3mis | no blame EU! |
| 18:36.14 | ralfWORK | NO EU |
| 18:38.25 | Cairenn | nevcairiel: may take a few tries to get through |
| 18:38.32 | Cairenn | but we are still up |
| 18:38.34 | nevcairiel | yeah noticed |
| 18:38.37 | nevcairiel | sometimes lags out |
| 18:38.39 | nevcairiel | sometiems works |
| 18:39.10 | art3mis | yay! |
| 18:39.15 | art3mis | it's 15C outside! |
| 18:39.20 | art3mis | i cans tart wearing shrots again |
| 18:39.23 | Cairenn | smacks art3mis |
| 18:39.29 | ralfWORK | ? |
| 18:39.34 | art3mis | and shorts too |
| 18:39.35 | Shirik | ~weather kdab |
| 18:39.36 | ralfWORK | sounds like you need to settle down |
| 18:39.44 | Shirik | damn it's cold outside |
| 18:39.54 | schnoggo | had to make the call between "sometimes lags" and "need to reboot the server" |
| 18:40.01 | schnoggo | went with the lag |
| 18:40.03 | kd3 | meh, it was pretty nice down in daytona last week |
| 18:40.03 | schnoggo | :) |
| 18:40.09 | kd3 | short of tuesday, when it was gray and rainy |
| 18:40.14 | Sixen | Hm? You live in Daytona? |
| 18:40.16 | Shirik | yeah it was really warm |
| 18:40.29 | Shirik | sorta |
| 18:40.33 | Shirik | I go to school in daytona |
| 18:40.35 | Sixen | =p |
| 18:45.09 | art3mis | lies! |
| 18:45.20 | Industrial | http://wowhead.com/?items=4.6&filter=minrl=58;maxrl=67;cr=56:51;crs=1:1;crv=1:1;ma=1 |
| 18:45.21 | art3mis | there's only 2 types of people in daytona |
| 18:45.39 | Industrial | so there really is no other shield I can get next to landslide buckler that does any spelldamagE? |
| 18:45.42 | art3mis | people above 70 and tourists who are only there for spring rbeak and the car races ;P |
| 18:45.47 | Industrial | before level 68, that is |
| 18:46.03 | ralfWORK | lol@spell damage shield |
| 18:46.11 | ralfWORK | so seriously, do ret pallies need like every stat in the game? |
| 18:46.21 | Cide | yes |
| 18:46.22 | Industrial | slemental shaman >:( |
| 18:46.28 | dylanm | No. |
| 18:46.34 | ralfWORK | ohhh shaman, right. |
| 18:46.35 | dylanm | You need warrior stats pretty much. |
| 18:46.38 | Industrial | and yes, I need it. |
| 18:46.45 | ralfWORK | dylanm: no spell damage? |
| 18:46.49 | dylanm | Not really. |
| 18:46.51 | Industrial | 13 is too low |
| 18:46.52 | art3mis | they also need Hutzpah, thats a hidden stat you get from rare drops ;P |
| 18:47.00 | dylanm | It's a waste. None of your primary attacks benefit from it anymore. |
| 18:47.06 | ralfWORK | dylanm: ohhhh |
| 18:47.14 | dylanm | Consecrate does, obviously. |
| 18:47.33 | dylanm | But really you're about Seal of Blood/Crusader and Crusader Strike. |
| 18:47.35 | Industrial | id rather get me a big staff now cause they are becoming better then knife/shield |
| 18:47.40 | Industrial | :( |
| 18:47.57 | ralfWORK | Industrial: too bad you can't dual wield mindblades! |
| 18:47.58 | ralfWORK | lawl |
| 18:48.24 | Industrial | eg http://wowhead.com/?item=27750 |
| 18:48.24 | ralfWORK | dylanm: hmm. so then spell damage plate is basically... useless to everyone? |
| 18:48.48 | Lopeppeppy | Well.... maybe not useless..... |
| 18:49.03 | ScytheBlade1 | ralfWORK: you know you want to see a warrior with +800 or more spell damage |
| 18:49.09 | Lopeppeppy | but not very useful |
| 18:49.14 | ralfWORK | ScytheBlade1: damn yes I do! |
| 18:49.36 | ralfWORK | ScytheBlade1: just for that trinket he has equipped that procs spell damage! |
| 18:49.39 | ScytheBlade1 | ralfWORK: I saw a rogue on the armory some MONTHS ago... with +1600 healing cloth gear. |
| 18:49.45 | ralfWORK | HAHAHAHAHAH nice |
| 18:50.16 | ralfWORK | Lopeppeppy: I mean, I could be wrong, but I thought there was a deal of spell damage plate |
| 18:50.29 | ralfWORK | and I wouldn't think a holy pally would want that any more than a priest would want mage items |
| 18:50.39 | ralfWORK | so if ret pallies don't really use it |
| 18:50.41 | ralfWORK | idk |
| 18:51.04 | dylanm | A lot of prot gear has it. |
| 18:51.22 | deltron | plate with spell damage is good for shockadins |
| 18:51.27 | deltron | but there's not that much |
| 18:51.29 | dylanm | That's true. |
| 18:51.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh. Verizon isn't used to people giving them more money in any one billing period than required. "Total amount due: $-174.62" |
| 18:51.32 | dylanm | Awesome spec. |
| 18:51.32 | Lopeppeppy | Prot paladins can use it, for sure, carefully balanced with their other stats. |
| 18:51.36 | ralfWORK | ok, I thought shockadin = retadin |
| 18:51.41 | Lopeppeppy | Nope. |
| 18:51.43 | dylanm | Nooo. |
| 18:51.50 | ralfWORK | Lopeppeppy: yea, sure. I can see that, but only on defensive plate obviously |
| 18:51.59 | ralfWORK | ahh ok |
| 18:52.15 | dylanm | Because consecrate is a huge part of what makes you useful. |
| 18:52.18 | ralfWORK | is that something like lolsmite? |
| 18:52.48 | dylanm | And you probably aren't using Seal of Command, and Righteousness does get some spellpower coefficient. |
| 18:53.01 | Sixen | Huh? |
| 18:53.10 | Sixen | Sbo: Verizon is paying you ~$200 to use their service? |
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| 18:53.56 | Lopeppeppy | Hawt. |
| 18:53.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Sixen: no, I payed extra for the next few months |
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| 18:54.41 | ralfWORK | so what is this shockadin you speak of |
| 18:54.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Sixen: they charged me a $125 deposit, and if I miss a payment I'm not seeing a dime of that back. So, I'm not missing a payment ;) |
| 18:55.23 | Sixen | Ah :P |
| 18:56.02 | Fisker- | o hai |
| 18:56.31 | ralfWORK | hallo fiskar siir |
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| 19:01.01 | Josh_Borke | lol, 29k dps on gruul is retarded |
| 19:01.20 | ralfWORK | you mean damage? |
| 19:01.32 | ralfWORK | hmm. you could mean DPS |
| 19:01.36 | Josh_Borke | no, 29k raid wide dps on gruul |
| 19:01.41 | ralfWORK | wish I had the WWS from our Gruul :( |
| 19:02.07 | ralfWORK | hmm |
| 19:02.29 | ralfWORK | I think our kara/za is like 2500-3000 DPS |
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| 19:05.58 | ralfWORK | hmm yea our last ZA was 3.2k dps over the full raid. Nalorakk down was 3.5k, Akil'Zon 3.4k, best Halazzi was 3.2k |
| 19:06.08 | ralfWORK | ho like how can you do 29k DPS? :( |
| 19:09.46 | kd3 | lua> 10000000/6 |
| 19:09.47 | lua_bot | kd3: 1666666.6666667 |
| 19:10.42 | kd3 | lua> 10000000/360 |
| 19:10.42 | lua_bot | kd3: 27777.777777778 |
| 19:10.42 | kd3 | that's how much dps needs to be done to beat brutallus |
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| 19:11.40 | ralfWORK | 27k? |
| 19:11.45 | kd3 | yup |
| 19:11.53 | ralfWORK | hrm. |
| 19:12.12 | ralfWORK | I guess 10+10+5 < 25 then |
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| 19:16.58 | dru_ | wow, my server is already ad 69% through phase 1 |
| 19:17.14 | dru_ | ralfWORK: that's high, but not unreachable. |
| 19:17.17 | Bela|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:17.21 | Bela|work | not sure about now |
| 19:17.22 | ralfWORK | we were at about 36% at midnight |
| 19:17.46 | dru_ | it's only 1P server time on this one though |
| 19:18.11 | dru_ | I'm not exactly on one of the 'elite' servers though :-) |
| 19:18.18 | dru_ | Draenor US :-) |
| 19:18.29 | ralfWORK | dru_: I'm just not used to looking at 25-man numbers. heh. |
| 19:18.49 | ralfWORK | I need an addon that will track who has been in the raid |
| 19:18.54 | ralfWORK | does CT_Raid do that or something? |
| 19:19.16 | dru_ | there are several, but AFAIK, none are 2.4 ready |
| 19:19.22 | Bela|work | EKRaidAttend will do it |
| 19:19.34 | ralfWORK | Bela|work: kk |
| 19:19.45 | dru_ | Bela is it up on 2.4 yet ? |
| 19:19.51 | Bela|work | not sure |
| 19:20.02 | ralfWORK | Bela|work: you a fan of it? |
| 19:20.08 | Bela|work | not sure what would stop it from working in 2.4 though |
| 19:20.19 | Bela|work | its what I use in raids |
| 19:20.26 | ralfWORK | k |
| 19:20.56 | ralfWORK | I was keeping track of 10-mans with pen/paper |
| 19:21.01 | Bela|work | i will keep track of raid attendance, both in a savedvar, and screenshots of the raid roster |
| 19:21.01 | ralfWORK | but uhm... yea... that sucks with 25s :P |
| 19:21.04 | Bela|work | it* |
| 19:21.24 | ralfWORK | mm. k |
| 19:21.30 | Bela|work | it can do it manually on keypress, at intervals, and/or on boss death |
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| 19:22.08 | ralfWORK | hmm |
| 19:22.11 | ralfWORK | cute |
| 19:22.17 | ralfWORK | sounds like it could be handy |
| 19:22.30 | Bela|work | it has a sister addon called EKWaitList |
| 19:22.36 | Bela|work | that does what it sounds like it does |
| 19:22.53 | ralfWORK | how would a wait list work though, in game? |
| 19:22.58 | ralfWORK | you have to manually put ppl in it? |
| 19:23.13 | Bela|work | you add them manually, or they can send you a tell with a special pre-character |
| 19:23.17 | Bela|work | like !wl |
| 19:23.22 | Bela|work | if I recall |
| 19:23.24 | ralfWORK | oh gotcha |
| 19:23.25 | dru_ | I would think it uses the combat log to check who is in the instance though a raid |
| 19:23.27 | ralfWORK | that's kinda smooth |
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| 19:23.36 | frop | hello |
| 19:23.42 | frop | any WWS user here? |
| 19:23.47 | ralfWORK | Bela|work: you use epgp? |
| 19:23.50 | ralfWORK | frop: me |
| 19:23.52 | Bela|work | no raid lists can be retrieved without combat logging |
| 19:23.59 | Bela|work | ralfWORK: yes |
| 19:24.01 | frop | how to "start" recording Combatlog now? |
| 19:24.12 | Bela|work | same as before |
| 19:24.16 | ralfWORK | frop: the LoggerHead addon is very handy for that |
| 19:24.16 | Bela|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:24.19 | frop | seems that Addon is broken :( |
| 19:24.23 | ralfWORK | but you don't *have* to use it |
| 19:24.25 | ralfWORK | o rly? |
| 19:24.29 | Bela|work | it was updated |
| 19:24.31 | Bela|work | for 2.4 |
| 19:24.33 | Bela|work | you sure? |
| 19:24.34 | frop | WWSA it is |
| 19:24.36 | frop | mmmh |
| 19:24.39 | Bela|work | oh |
| 19:24.41 | frop | maybe i need a new version |
| 19:24.46 | frop | wait, checking |
| 19:24.48 | Bela|work | yeah the client might not be up to date |
| 19:24.52 | Bela|work | WWS |
| 19:25.03 | ralfWORK | stupid question, but uhm... don't the combat log changes impact WWS? |
| 19:25.08 | Bela|work | they had one they were testing for 2.4 though |
| 19:25.11 | ralfWORK | and if so, anyone know if WWS works with the new combat log? :P |
| 19:25.25 | Bela|work | current version no, new version yes |
| 19:25.36 | Bela|work | but I dont know if the new version is live yet |
| 19:26.15 | frop | it's not... |
| 19:26.18 | ralfWORK | guess I can just hang on to the text combat logs if they don't run after tonight's raid |
| 19:26.24 | frop | ...well it should by 25minutes now :D |
| 19:26.35 | frop | there should will be a 2.4 version tonight btw |
| 19:26.43 | Bela|work | a post says by WED at 8pm they will have the new client up |
| 19:26.43 | ralfWORK | frop: of WWS? |
| 19:26.46 | frop | ...that's why asking how to record combatlog |
| 19:26.48 | ralfWORK | ahhh |
| 19:26.50 | frop | yep ralfWORK |
| 19:26.56 | Bela|work | they have a beta of it though |
| 19:27.02 | frop | isn't today WED? |
| 19:27.07 | ralfWORK | yea it is WED |
| 19:27.14 | frop | and it's 8pm already :D |
| 19:27.16 | ralfWORK | all day long, in fact :) |
| 19:27.20 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 19:27.21 | frop | okk, will use /combatlog |
| 19:27.26 | ralfWORK | maybe in upside-down land |
| 19:30.48 | Bela|work | http://www.lossendil.com/wwsc/wwsc2.jnlp |
| 19:30.52 | Bela|work | that was the beta for v2 |
| 19:31.04 | Bela|work | says it requires an addon as well, but I dont see why |
| 19:31.22 | Bela|work | all the addon does is auto-enable logs and stuff |
| 19:31.34 | ralfWORK | wonders how much more accurate WWS will be now |
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| 19:35.48 | Bela|work | weird |
| 19:35.52 | Bela|work | maybe you do need the addon |
| 19:35.55 | ralfWORK | oh? |
| 19:36.01 | Bela|work | it apparently saves other data, like raid roster, and other stuff |
| 19:36.08 | Bela|work | for the resulting report |
| 19:36.10 | ralfWORK | hmmm |
| 19:38.16 | nevcairiel | last i heard the addon was supposed to be optional for 2.4 |
| 19:38.21 | nevcairiel | for loot and roster info |
| 19:38.25 | nevcairiel | but not mandatory |
| 19:41.47 | Bela|work | ahh |
| 19:41.54 | Bela|work | well loot and roster info sounds hawt |
| 19:41.57 | Bela|work | =D |
| 19:42.01 | ralfWORK | yea, it does, just a bit! |
| 19:42.03 | ralfWORK | hahahaha |
| 19:45.45 | ralfWORK | URL? |
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| 19:56.03 | Cairenn | (12:41:28 PM) Dotted is now known as Dotoff |
| 19:56.04 | Cairenn | (12:41:35 PM) Cairenn: hey Dotoff? |
| 19:56.04 | Cairenn | (12:41:53 PM) Cairenn: would you mind disabling that auto away script, please? |
| 19:56.04 | Cairenn | (12:42:15 PM) ScytheBlade1: lol |
| 19:56.04 | Cairenn | (12:42:32 PM) mikma: kick hiiiiiim |
| 19:56.04 | Cairenn | (12:44:38 PM) haste: Cairenn: I bet that highlight would be 110% more efficient if you had done it in one line! |
| 19:56.07 | Cairenn | (12:44:55 PM) Cairenn: meh |
| 19:56.09 | Cairenn | (12:45:15 PM) mikma: Dotoff: disable your away-script assclown |
| 19:56.11 | Cairenn | (12:45:22 PM) mikma: now it's 120% |
| 19:56.13 | Cairenn | (12:45:30 PM) ScytheBlade1: lol |
| 19:56.15 | Cairenn | (12:45:34 PM) ScytheBlade1: Points for style |
| 19:56.17 | Cairenn | (12:45:41 PM) Cairenn: lol |
| 19:56.19 | Cairenn | (12:45:55 PM) mikma: he can take that, he's a curse-dork |
| 19:56.21 | Cairenn | (12:46:01 PM) ScytheBlade1: lol |
| 19:57.21 | Dotted | cant really read whats being said on irc, when im offline >_> |
| 19:58.00 | Cairenn | which is why I repasted it ;) |
| 19:58.13 | Dotted | aha |
| 19:58.38 | Cairenn | :) |
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| 19:59.53 | Dotted | problem is, if i remove it people would think im online while im infact offline - and since this is a bnc you wont/shouldnt see me quiting :/ |
| 19:59.55 | p3lim | ages ago i had an addon called colalight or something, that showed the item vendor worth on a tooltip without beeing to the vendor itself, any alternatives for this now? |
| 20:00.15 | zenzelezz | Dotted: then limit the channels it spams |
| 20:00.15 | cogumel0 | I think there's one called pricetooltip |
| 20:00.23 | cogumel0 | I'll check p3lim |
| 20:00.27 | MentalPower | Dotted: change your nick |
| 20:00.32 | MentalPower | thats all it takes |
| 20:00.41 | cogumel0 | itempricetooltip, that's the name p3lim |
| 20:00.45 | Dotted | thats what i do, or thats what it should do |
| 20:00.48 | p3lim | ok, thanks |
| 20:01.02 | ralfWORK | Dotted: pfft! I use screen, no one ever knows when I'm here on not? muahahahahaah! |
| 20:01.09 | p3lim | I head of this addon called SellFish, but I also heard from a guildie its DB wasnt complete |
| 20:01.14 | p3lim | so im not quite sure :p |
| 20:01.18 | Lunessa | p3lim: you can also try "SellFish" |
| 20:01.22 | Cairenn | it does change your nick, which is the only part needed |
| 20:01.33 | Cairenn | just get it to stop with the additional message :) |
| 20:01.35 | p3lim | Id want one with a complete 2.4 DB |
| 20:01.59 | Lunessa | p3lim: "SellFish" works just fine for me, and it updates itself every time you go to a vendor. |
| 20:02.02 | Dotted | Cairenn isnt that just you client saying that? |
| 20:02.16 | Cairenn | no, its from your end |
| 20:02.18 | ralfWORK | oh sweet! |
| 20:02.19 | p3lim | which would be best tho? SellFish or ItemPriceTooltip? |
| 20:02.32 | ralfWORK | no more wws actor list |
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| 20:02.52 | ralfWORK | that crap pissed me off so bad :( |
| 20:03.09 | Dotted | is away (kd3 - whee squid just went splat) |
| 20:03.15 | Cairenn | ... |
| 20:03.17 | Cairenn | yeah, that |
| 20:03.17 | Lunessa | p3lim: The answer tot that question is /always/ whichever you prefer. |
| 20:04.54 | cogumel0 | how do I get the zone and continent of the player? |
| 20:05.22 | ralfWORK | Bela|work: hmm. the WWS info about the new client doesn't mention an addon at all |
| 20:07.28 | cogumel0 | can someone tell me how to check what the zone and continent of the player is? |
| 20:08.00 | MentalPower | cogumel0: Astrolabe is your best bet |
| 20:08.15 | MentalPower | its also the easiest |
| 20:08.35 | MentalPower | since the base API is a bit delicate |
| 20:08.58 | cogumel0 | MentalPower, what do you mean? is there no function that simply returns the current zone and continent of a unit? |
| 20:09.33 | cogumel0 | that's mental, you can automatically know the coords of a unit inside a zone/continent, but not find out in which continent/zone that unit is just as easily? o.O |
| 20:09.43 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 20:09.56 | MentalPower | cogumel0: http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API#Mapping_Functions |
| 20:10.03 | MentalPower | however a few caveats |
| 20:11.16 | cogumel0 | what do you mean? |
| 20:12.34 | cogumel0 | GetCurrentMapContinent(), does this only get updated after the worldmap is openned or I force an update? |
| 20:12.55 | MentalPower | SetMapToCurrentZone() fires an event before the function returns (ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA) that signifies when the map changed |
| 20:13.10 | MentalPower | all the mapping functions depend on the currently selected map |
| 20:13.22 | ralfWORK | wow |
| 20:13.37 | cogumel0 | how does astrolabe make that easier for me? |
| 20:13.54 | MentalPower | it takes the guesswork out of it |
| 20:14.06 | MentalPower | since it knows when to rely on the mapping functions |
| 20:14.13 | MentalPower | trust me its a lot easier |
| 20:15.01 | MentalPower | if you call GetCurrentMapContinent() whilst your char is in outland, but you're looking at Elwynn Forest, that function will return Eastern Kingdoms as your current continent |
| 20:15.16 | cogumel0 | can't I simply listen for ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA and do a SetMapToCurrentZone() when it happens ? |
| 20:15.33 | MentalPower | cogumel0: that will kill any map mods |
| 20:15.38 | MentalPower | including the blizzard one |
| 20:15.55 | ralfWORK | wow |
| 20:15.56 | MentalPower | and possibly get you in an infinite loop |
| 20:16.01 | MentalPower | actually it will |
| 20:16.02 | ralfWORK | that sounds like a really huge pain in the ass |
| 20:16.04 | cogumel0 | o.O |
| 20:16.08 | MentalPower | ralfWORK: ya think? |
| 20:16.12 | ralfWORK | lol yes |
| 20:16.18 | ralfWORK | I don't even write addons |
| 20:16.21 | ralfWORK | but I follow the problem |
| 20:16.28 | ralfWORK | and that sounds pretty damn retarded, if you ask me |
| 20:16.31 | MentalPower | cogumel0: the event fires before the function returns |
| 20:16.47 | cogumel0 | right... |
| 20:16.57 | cogumel0 | if I listen for the event and then launch the function it gets in a loop |
| 20:17.05 | MentalPower | yup |
| 20:17.25 | cogumel0 | event is triggered, launches function, function triggers event again, which will call the function again, which will trigger the event again |
| 20:17.28 | cogumel0 | etc etc |
| 20:17.50 | cogumel0 | well you could put a boolean before you call the function just making sure it hasn't been called yet :P |
| 20:17.55 | cogumel0 | but ok, you convinced me... |
| 20:18.08 | MentalPower | also, blizzard responds to that event too, so you can't rely on something like "SetMapToCurrentZone() local continent = GetCurrentMapContinent()" since by that time the map could be different |
| 20:18.37 | cogumel0 | I'll play it your way, the way you wanted me to do it right from the beginning, using astrolabe :P |
| 20:18.44 | cogumel0 | can I have the link for it again plz? :) |
| 20:19.00 | cogumel0 | does astrolabe also put dots on the world map? |
| 20:19.04 | cogumel0 | as in, like notes ? |
| 20:19.20 | MentalPower | http://wiki.esamynn.org/Astrolabe http://wiki.esamynn.org/Astrolabe/API_GetUnitPosition |
| 20:19.21 | MentalPower | yes it does |
| 20:19.25 | MentalPower | thats its main intent |
| 20:19.29 | MentalPower | main map and minimap |
| 20:19.40 | cogumel0 | bumps head on the table |
| 20:19.52 | cogumel0 | and to think I've spent half a day building my own note system ... |
| 20:19.57 | MentalPower | lol! |
| 20:20.06 | cogumel0 | well I needed the practise anyway :) |
| 20:20.15 | cogumel0 | it works fine and only has like 40 lines of code! |
| 20:20.39 | cogumel0 | ofc... for the time being it doesn't take into account zones, continents, etc ... but still works fine! |
| 20:20.40 | MentalPower | fair nuf |
| 20:20.59 | MentalPower | BTW, minimap positioning is hard |
| 20:21.14 | MentalPower | you have to figure out the scale between the minimap and the world map |
| 20:21.21 | zenzelezz | 10g per boss in BT is nice |
| 20:21.26 | MentalPower | and that is really hard |
| 20:21.28 | ralfWORK | zenzelezz: ohhh nice |
| 20:21.33 | cogumel0 | I don't argue that :) |
| 20:21.34 | MentalPower | astrolabe has that data already tho |
| 20:21.47 | ralfWORK | btw, why doesn't blizz give you maps of instances? |
| 20:21.59 | ralfWORK | I'm sure someone has asked that question before |
| 20:22.06 | MentalPower | ralfWORK: thats an old discussion :) |
| 20:22.19 | ralfWORK | MentalPower: I'm sure. can you give me the tl;dr version? |
| 20:22.21 | cogumel0 | MentalPower, figuring out the scale can't be that hard can it? I mean there's a function that returns the scale of the world map, as for the minimap it can only have like 5 different scales, right? |
| 20:22.43 | MentalPower | cogumel0: yes, but try to figure out the relationship between them |
| 20:22.57 | cogumel0 | I heard that blizz is thinking of giving cords and maps for instances in wotlk ? |
| 20:23.10 | MentalPower | remember you only have the player's position in reference to the worldmap |
| 20:23.16 | cogumel0 | MentalPower, have to admit I actually like challenges like that |
| 20:23.23 | cogumel0 | is that a wager? xD |
| 20:23.34 | MentalPower | sure |
| 20:23.46 | MentalPower | if you figure out a better way than the one in astrolabe |
| 20:23.46 | cogumel0 | what's in it for me? :o |
| 20:24.01 | MentalPower | you get your 15mins of fame |
| 20:24.03 | MentalPower | :P |
| 20:24.05 | cogumel0 | lol, why does it have to be better? |
| 20:24.09 | cogumel0 | I don't even know how astrolabe works |
| 20:24.28 | MentalPower | ralfWORK: tl;dr, bots |
| 20:24.40 | ralfWORK | MentalPower: o rly? |
| 20:24.50 | ralfWORK | bots running through instances farming the crap outa them? |
| 20:24.58 | MentalPower | ralfWORK: basically |
| 20:25.02 | ralfWORK | wow |
| 20:25.36 | ralfWORK | that's not something I had even considered as a reason to not have maps in instances rofl |
| 20:25.40 | MentalPower | cogumel0: ask for player mainmap location, retrieve the previously calculated conversion factors, do funky math, display |
| 20:25.51 | ralfWORK | I could think of all kinds of other reasons, but never saw that |
| 20:26.13 | MentalPower | ralfWORK: the other being that instances are hard to make maps for, since a lot of them are multi-tiered |
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| 20:26.28 | MentalPower | LBRS comes to mind |
| 20:26.53 | ralfWORK | MentalPower: eh. I could see that, but only a little. Plenty of tunnels and caves and crap in azeroth |
| 20:27.06 | MentalPower | yes, but none of them are in the maps |
| 20:27.18 | MentalPower | save the cave/tunnel entrances |
| 20:27.19 | cogumel0 | but MentalPower, isn't there alraedy an addon that has 3d map view of an instance and quite accurate player location ? |
| 20:27.39 | MentalPower | cogumel0: yes, and that is more trouble than its worth |
| 20:27.57 | cogumel0 | not for gold farmers? xD |
| 20:28.10 | zenzelezz | for those who remember the (typedef) struct discussion the other day, slightly related post: http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2008/03/26/8336829.aspx ("Why are structure names different from their typedef names?") |
| 20:28.51 | nipkom | hello everybody i have a question about WoW-generated event for a script and i'm asking if i'm in a good channel for that (i'm french and don't speak very well so excuse my grammar pliz) |
| 20:29.14 | Cairenn | your english is just fine, and yes you are in a good channel for that |
| 20:29.20 | sag_ich_nicht | how do i set the new combatlog to ultra compressed? (i.e. SCL look) can't find the options for it |
| 20:29.22 | nipkom | did anyone can help me ? |
| 20:29.31 | Cairenn | ask your question |
| 20:29.35 | nipkom | thank |
| 20:30.05 | nipkom | i would know if their an event when you go back a target ? |
| 20:30.29 | cogumel0 | MentalPower, why does astrolabe not have the taxiarrow as well? :) |
| 20:30.35 | dru_ | when lasttarget is sed ? |
| 20:30.48 | MentalPower | cogumel0: cause we can't make m2 models yet :) |
| 20:31.00 | cogumel0 | m2 ? |
| 20:31.09 | MentalPower | m2 == 3d models |
| 20:31.20 | cogumel0 | use the same system as cartrographer then :P |
| 20:31.40 | dru_ | ant paths :-) |
| 20:31.41 | cogumel0 | works pretty well, even though it's not 3d, and it still looks 3d |
| 20:31.53 | MentalPower | eww |
| 20:31.58 | MentalPower | eww is my response |
| 20:32.21 | cogumel0 | ohh come on! that's just a way of saying you won't ever do it -.- |
| 20:32.35 | ralfWORK | know what needed a damn map |
| 20:32.38 | cogumel0 | because blizz will never let you do 3d models |
| 20:32.41 | ralfWORK | was ST |
| 20:32.55 | ralfWORK | that sounds like BS to me! |
| 20:33.04 | ralfWORK | someone did 3d models in Excel |
| 20:33.14 | ralfWORK | you telling me you can't hack it into Blizz? ;) |
| 20:33.18 | cogumel0 | lol |
| 20:33.27 | ralfWORK | lazy! the entire lot of you! LAZY |
| 20:33.29 | MentalPower | cogumel0: they do let us do 3d models, just that no one has written a converter for .ma (maya) | .3ds (3D Studio Max) -> .m2 |
| 20:33.46 | ralfWORK | ah |
| 20:33.57 | ralfWORK | is m2 blizzard's secret 3d format or something? |
| 20:34.14 | Tem | pretty much yeah |
| 20:34.20 | ralfWORK | interesting |
| 20:38.06 | Tem | lol. |
| 20:38.07 | Tem | http://www.google.com/trends?q=wow+addons |
| 20:38.15 | Tem | each spike corresponds to a patch |
| 20:42.47 | foxlit | Omen = cruel joke |
| 20:42.58 | foxlit | or, rather, not Omen |
| 20:43.02 | foxlit | LibThreat-2.0 = cruel joke |
| 20:43.22 | foxlit | ThreatUtils.lua:212: guid may ocassionally be number, not string |
| 20:43.51 | foxlit | ThreatNPCModuleCore.lua:372: self.Attacks may be undefined. |
| 20:48.14 | cogumel0 | MentalPower, you say there's no 3ds to m2 converters? |
| 20:49.00 | Tem | cogumel0, if you want to make one, I might love you long time |
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| 20:49.37 | cogumel0 | there is 1 already |
| 20:49.46 | cogumel0 | at least |
| 20:50.03 | cogumel0 | 10 minutes of googling have brought forth... |
| 20:50.18 | kd3 | lmao. just 4-manned vexallus accidentally |
| 20:50.29 | cogumel0 | NoggIt 3dsToM2 |
| 20:50.38 | cogumel0 | available in a store near you |
| 20:50.56 | cogumel0 | actually it's available in places like... curse, filefront... etc :P |
| 20:51.14 | sag_ich_nicht | AnduinLothar: http://pastebin.com/m4d8d87e3 |
| 20:51.17 | cogumel0 | so MentalPower, can we have CrazyTaxiArrow now plzzzz? :) |
| 20:51.31 | cogumel0 | Tem, do you love me now? :) |
| 20:52.04 | Tem | MentalPower, u geif |
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| 20:55.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: heh @ putting DevTools_Dump into a version you commited.. sounds like something I would do ;) |
| 20:55.33 | cogumel0 | ok forget it, that tool only works with 1.12 |
| 20:55.35 | cogumel0 | :S |
| 20:55.44 | cogumel0 | goes back to googling |
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| 21:05.25 | mikma | so, anyone knows the tactics for the 1st boss of sunwell 25man? |
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| 21:06.31 | ScytheBlade1 | WoWI being outright hammered? |
| 21:06.42 | Gnarfoz | clad|office: did you change LH to be self-contained (i.e. just one dir)? just d/l'd it from "the list" @ wowi, you probably wrote about it on the actual addon info page I can't seem to reach right now ;) |
| 21:06.43 | ScytheBlade1 | hehe, yup, it is |
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| 21:07.45 | sys_rage | since curse is always utter crap after patches, does anybody know somewhere eles to get swstats? |
| 21:07.50 | ralfWORK | heh |
| 21:07.52 | ralfWORK | recount ftw |
| 21:07.59 | ScytheBlade1 | sys_rage: the sws website? |
| 21:08.02 | ScytheBlade1 | sys_rage: sw-stats.com |
| 21:08.14 | sys_rage | just see forums there. nowhere to download it |
| 21:08.16 | sys_rage | am i blind? |
| 21:08.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes |
| 21:08.28 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.sw-stats.com/viewtopic.php?t=321 |
| 21:08.37 | ScytheBlade1 | That said, looks like no 2.4 version yet |
| 21:08.59 | sys_rage | ok |
| 21:09.23 | cogumel0 | ohh! I just noticed tomtom finally has the crazy taxi arrow! |
| 21:09.46 | mikma | Kalecgos... anyone knows tactics? O_o |
| 21:10.09 | ScytheBlade1 | mikma: don't suck imo |
| 21:10.23 | ScytheBlade1 | </witty reply> |
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| 21:10.50 | mikma | i dont, others do ;) |
| 21:10.59 | mikma | i can't keep whole raid alive by myself muah |
| 21:11.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Truth |
| 21:12.57 | Cairenn | stupid ISP, this is so NOT the time to dump me |
| 21:13.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: they know that it is you (literally), hence, they randomly push the "Disconnect Cairenn" button every so often |
| 21:13.40 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 21:14.28 | ScytheBlade1 | How is WoWI holding up? I noticed you're on the light version |
| 21:14.39 | Cairenn | we're hanging in there :) |
| 21:15.00 | Cairenn | little slow, sometimes need to do a refresh or two, but hanging in there |
| 21:15.13 | dru_ | you know, I used to work at an ISP, and I can confirm that for a fact, high banwidth users and high maintenace /frequent fliers on the support phones did in fact have that happen fairly often in Dial-Up days :-) |
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| 21:15.42 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
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| 21:25.49 | ScytheBlade1 | wtf |
| 21:25.51 | ScytheBlade1 | http://rss.cnn.com/~r/rss/cnn_topstories/~3/258263481/index.html |
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| 21:26.59 | Lopeppeppy | Nasty. *shiver* |
| 21:27.14 | ScytheBlade1 | I can't even get that far |
| 21:27.18 | ScytheBlade1 | That's just boggling |
| 21:27.42 | Lopeppeppy | Just the headline was all I read. |
| 21:33.43 | sag_ich_nicht | okay |
| 21:33.51 | sag_ich_nicht | how do is make the verbs in the new combat log ++/-- |
| 21:46.21 | kd3 | huh. the canadian entry requirements for the arena tournament have hit the forums |
| 21:48.06 | MentalPower | took them a while |
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| 21:59.25 | Lunessa | ScytheBlade1: -Re: newsstory... Now imagine living here and hearing about it EVERY. SINGLE. DAY. |
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| 22:03.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: lol, that sucks |
| 22:06.11 | Lunessa | I hate turning on the radio and having that, the tejano singer crash, and clara being the top three things they have to talk about. |
| 22:06.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh |
| 22:06.30 | ScytheBlade1 | At least it'll be over soon? |
| 22:07.06 | Valaron|Work | Clara? |
| 22:08.22 | deltron | ^^^ |
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| 22:11.58 | Lunessa | "Will anything restore the log to be as good as it was prior to the 2.4 patch? " Bwahahahahaha! |
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| 22:12.47 | Lopeppeppy | *laugh* |
| 22:12.52 | Lopeppeppy | Yes. Go play EverQuest. |
| 22:13.41 | mikma | wut? |
| 22:13.44 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 someone actually said that? |
| 22:13.45 | mikma | link please |
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| 22:16.46 | Lunessa | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5575657886&sid=1 |
| 22:16.53 | Lunessa | Link - as requested. |
| 22:19.36 | Kalroth | I must admit, the scrolling when dying/etc annoys me :) |
| 22:19.56 | Kalroth | It should fill the buffer the other way, meaning newest first |
| 22:21.10 | Legorol | this may be a noob question, if it's answered in any post, feel free to link it: |
| 22:21.23 | Legorol | how do i enable the combat log features on any chat tab other than the default combat log tab? |
| 22:24.52 | kd3 | can't yet. there's only one tab for the combat log at present. you'll have to get a combat log mod if you want more |
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| 22:25.11 | kd3 | like EavesDrop, since I know it's been updated |
| 22:25.51 | Legorol | thanks kd3, this must be a FAQ, sorry about that |
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| 22:28.02 | mikma | EavesDrop is sweet |
| 22:29.19 | Valaron|Work | Yes |
| 22:29.21 | Valaron|Work | Agreed |
| 22:31.23 | Shirik | clad|office: ping |
| 22:38.06 | sag_ich_nicht | AnduinLothar: http://pastebin.com/m4d8d87e3 :( |
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| 22:42.57 | batrick | so many bug reports |
| 22:43.10 | sag_ich_nicht | that bug is ages old |
| 22:43.14 | batrick | everyone is jumping on the byte code validation wagon |
| 22:43.27 | batrick | sag_ich_nicht: ? |
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| 22:44.17 | sag_ich_nicht | what |
| 22:44.23 | sag_ich_nicht | no i mean what i linked to AnduinLothar |
| 22:49.50 | p3lim | my font addon doesnt change fonts in chat frame, anything new happened there? |
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| 23:21.11 | JoshBorke | stupid patches messing up addons |
| 23:21.18 | JoshBorke | why can't they just leave the ui alone :-( |
| 23:23.09 | haste | reverts JoshBorkes UI to pre-beta. |
| 23:27.12 | JoshBorke | thank god |
| 23:27.14 | JoshBorke | everything was better then |
| 23:27.28 | [dRaCo] | we had northrend :/ |
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| 23:37.07 | frop | mmmh, my log is not accepted by wws client :( |
| 23:37.20 | Esamynn | has this been spammed in here yet? http://games.slashdot.org/games/08/03/26/2050250.shtml |
| 23:43.16 | MentalPower | Esamynn: thats slightly old news, but yes its been spammed |
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| 23:48.55 | JoshBorke | hm, what happened to doom lord kazzak? |
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| 23:52.45 | kd3 | he takes 12 hours to a day to spawn after a server restart, but his lifespan is going to be measured in minutes as a result of the two daily quests happening 10 feet away from him |
| 23:54.04 | Corrodias | it has come to the point that i don't find WoW fun. hell, i think playing wow for a year actually made me forget for a while how to have fun in a game. |
| 23:54.47 | Corrodias | this in reference, since you can't see my screen, to a comment about it being a grind in the news story linked above |
| 23:56.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: you're a beast, btw. Keep it up, good job <3 |
| 23:56.48 | Antiarc | Heh. I'm, uh, incentivized by the hundreds of thousands of people breathing down my neck :P |
| 23:56.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Haha |
| 23:56.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Well I'm not saying that you aren't :) |
| 23:57.00 | Antiarc | You think I'm joking. |
| 23:57.01 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/omentrends.png |
| 23:57.23 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm not the least bit surprised |
| 23:57.34 | kd3 | lol |
| 23:57.42 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5539835467&sid=1&pageNo=6#105 <-- but really, you're a beast |
| 23:58.20 | Lunessa | Antiarc: Now if only all that traffic would translate into $$. |
| 23:58.26 | Antiarc | Hehe, indeed. |
| 23:58.50 | Lunessa | You could afford to support me in the style to which I'd like to become accustomed. :P |
| 23:59.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Omen is probably the only thing I'd consider putting on a resume |
| 23:59.29 | ScytheBlade1 | "Hai, I wrote a massive data processing piece of code used by >100k people" |
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