| 00:11.01 | Cairenn|afk | just a reminder guys, it looks like 2.4 is this coming tuesday, so get 'em ready |
| 00:15.12 | Guillotine | mikma: (yes, I know this is a bit late) because no other sites have 500 errors *cough* WoW forums every other day *cough* |
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| 00:24.37 | schnoggo | helping sko copy files... so i'm still here |
| 00:25.13 | schnoggo | points at sko |
| 00:26.24 | Shirik | lol @ our raid leader |
| 00:26.50 | Shirik | boom, you're not in the center anymore, you're taking the south side because somehow you've been pulling aggro as arcane, a spec that does 70% less aggro |
| 00:27.25 | Shirik | silly arcane mages |
| 00:27.26 | Industrial | has no idea what that means |
| 00:27.35 | Industrial | being in the center :S |
| 00:27.42 | Shirik | arcane specced mage somehow managed to pull aggro over and over again |
| 00:28.01 | sag_ich_nicht | lmao |
| 00:28.17 | Shirik | he's all like "I'll go enchant my cloak!" |
| 00:28.45 | NightHawkTheSane | don't they have like more threat reduction frmo talents than other specs? |
| 00:28.52 | Shirik | 70% threat reduction! |
| 00:30.40 | Amarande | Shirik, that sounds more like a tank that sucks |
| 00:30.51 | Amarande | or is the RL the tank :| |
| 00:31.02 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: depends on if other people were pulling agro or not |
| 00:31.11 | NightHawkTheSane | course, it could just be world clsas raid-wide sucking, as well. :D |
| 00:31.27 | Shirik | vashj |
| 00:31.49 | Shirik | so warlock tank :P |
| 00:31.50 | Amarande | and how the hell do you pronounce the J there?! |
| 00:32.07 | Amarande | Night: yeah, there are a lot of raid guilds made of complete scrubs |
| 00:32.21 | NightHawkTheSane | like a soft j, i guess you could say |
| 00:32.46 | Amarande | then you have people like me, who have a clue, but have difficulty fitting raids and such into schedule and are rather far behind on gear |
| 00:32.47 | NightHawkTheSane | or maybe a soft g would be the proper way to explain it? |
| 00:34.12 | Industrial | I jsut say vash |
| 00:34.33 | foxlit | Shirik: multiplicative stacking |
| 00:34.42 | Industrial | (i evern play on eu vashj >_>) |
| 00:35.03 | foxlit | So 70% threat reduction would be subtlety+bos+TA |
| 00:37.09 | Shirik | no idea where he got the number |
| 00:37.11 | Shirik | he just said 70% |
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| 00:37.30 | foxlit | Sounds like a common 40% talents + 30% salvation cluelessness |
| 00:39.26 | Guillotine | Well, thats stupid. I get a 'first' in a sticky, and I have to make it a *semi* constructive post |
| 00:39.32 | Guillotine | Maybe I should edit it to say 'first' |
| 00:43.04 | Shirik | ...... |
| 00:43.11 | Shirik | I just fought Vashj with malchazeen equipped |
| 00:43.14 | Shirik | failure :( |
| 00:43.19 | batrick | ! |
| 00:43.54 | Antiarc | What class? |
| 00:44.15 | Antiarc | The only class I can think of getting away with that would be a desperate fury warrior offhanding it >_> |
| 00:44.17 | Shirik | priest.... |
| 00:44.20 | Antiarc | rofl |
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| 00:54.29 | NightHawkTheSane | I once did most of a ZA run without my main hand weapon equippedd (as a resto shaman) |
| 00:54.43 | NightHawkTheSane | it was just after doing kael, and i had forgotten to re-equip it |
| 00:57.29 | Guillotine | wtf is up today. First Curse goes down, then wowwiki. |
| 00:57.50 | Guillotine | hmm, back |
| 00:57.58 | Amarande | *shrug* been working on my site, so haven't looked much at wowwiki today |
| 00:58.22 | Shirik | Blizzard is so cruel |
| 00:58.27 | Shirik | I have 1899 +healing |
| 00:58.30 | Shirik | can't let me break 1900 |
| 00:59.18 | Cide | try harder |
| 01:00.16 | Kaso | hook the paper doll frame to round to nearest ten |
| 01:00.43 | Amarande | Kaso: that's cheating :S |
| 01:02.35 | Antiarc | haha, I just had an awesome idea |
| 01:02.51 | Antiarc | A mod called "WoWTrainer" which lets you "change your stats and gold to anything you want" |
| 01:02.58 | Antiarc | I wonder how many people I'd get to use it >_> |
| 01:03.27 | NightHawkTheSane | hasnt that been done? :P |
| 01:03.40 | Antiarc | has it? |
| 01:03.47 | Kaso | you'd think it would have |
| 01:03.51 | Cide | it has |
| 01:03.59 | NightHawkTheSane | wow-toolbox? |
| 01:05.30 | Cide | yes |
| 01:07.11 | Guillotine | NightHawk: thats not even a clever addon |
| 01:07.13 | Guillotine | its just a scam |
| 01:07.40 | NightHawkTheSane | cause antiarc's idea wasn't ?:P |
| 01:08.00 | Guillotine | No, Antiarc's is both a scam AND a clever addon! |
| 01:08.29 | Antiarc | The point of my addon would be that if you seriously expect it to work, you deserve to be disappointed :P |
| 01:08.29 | Kalroth | http://dontclickthis.whatingods.name/asp-rnd.png wow |
| 01:09.13 | Amarande | Oh yeah, have it set so that you actually appear to have 5000 health in your unit frame when you die |
| 01:09.22 | Amarande | then when you die, it'll say "HA HA DID YOU REALLY THINK THIS WORKED" in huge letters |
| 01:09.24 | Cide | Kalroth: "oh my god it's automatically seeded!" |
| 01:09.39 | Kalroth | it's a fake random! |
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| 01:10.30 | Guillotine | Amarande: no, it just d/cs you when you're about to die |
| 01:10.36 | Guillotine | then you claim that its the person's hardware |
| 01:10.47 | Guillotine | and that the hack just stops working because they aren't online anymore |
| 01:11.14 | Cairenn | laughs, you guys are just bad |
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| 01:13.15 | zenzelezz | ooh, we're not so baaad... once you get to know us |
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| 01:13.35 | Industrial | .. :] |
| 01:13.36 | Kalroth | except for Antiarc. |
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| 01:13.36 | NightHawkTheSane | is still bad once you get to know him |
| 01:13.54 | Antiarc | Hey now, I'm not bad. |
| 01:13.57 | Antiarc | I'm good-challenged. |
| 01:13.58 | Cairenn | bad can be fun ;) |
| 01:17.47 | Shaktar | has a problem with taint and action bars |
| 01:17.54 | zenzelezz | no-one ever seems to recognize the Mr. Smith reference |
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| 01:53.52 | AnduinLothar | ok guys. Here's my years of experience as a pally: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3271069573&postId=53773922813#2282 |
| 01:54.12 | AnduinLothar | lol i can't count |
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| 01:55.24 | AnduinLothar | fix |
| 01:55.25 | AnduinLothar | ed |
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| 02:09.32 | JoshBorke | no spriests AL? |
| 02:09.40 | AnduinLothar | never in the melee grp |
| 02:10.13 | JoshBorke | ah, i see |
| 02:10.14 | AnduinLothar | Enh shammy have 3 or 4 awesome buffs, and they have zero mana problems |
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| 02:13.36 | JoshBorke | wow, 100 pageso f feedback |
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| 02:23.32 | Guillotine | Writing a 19 line C program to replace an hour of calculations = win |
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| 03:03.19 | batrick | ckknight_: try batrick.scrapping.cc |
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| 03:05.09 | batrick | ckknight_: try batrick.scrapping.cc |
| 03:05.16 | batrick | o nvm |
| 03:05.17 | batrick | lol |
| 03:05.21 | ckknight | batrick: lulz |
| 03:05.32 | ckknight | on it now |
| 03:25.29 | kd3 | gack |
| 03:25.43 | kd3 | come back from a 3.5-day vacation... 1549 unread news items |
| 03:25.49 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:27.09 | Olison | Funkeh`: ping |
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| 04:14.58 | Cairenn | okay guys, turning you loose on this first - top 70 mods across all the sites, and their status for 2.4: http://www.wowinterface.com/survivalguide.php |
| 04:16.04 | Amarande | hmm |
| 04:16.15 | Amarande | mention of ones that aren't updated for 2.4, but will still work? |
| 04:16.37 | MentalPower | Cairenn: could you change the link for auctioneer to http://auctioneeraddon.com/dl ? |
| 04:16.41 | Cairenn | once we can confirm whether they are still functional for 2.4, we'll turn on the links for them |
| 04:16.49 | Cairenn | sure |
| 04:16.57 | Amarande | Cairenn: can't you just test that on the PTR? |
| 04:17.14 | Cairenn | Amarande: honestly? no |
| 04:17.17 | Amarande | I'm assuming 2.4 is more or less set in stone, since they had people auto download it |
| 04:17.41 | MentalPower | they're auto-downloading the models and other static resources |
| 04:17.45 | MentalPower | not the client |
| 04:17.51 | MentalPower | client is always last |
| 04:18.01 | Cairenn | I don't have time, I'm up to my ears as it is |
| 04:18.07 | MentalPower | that too |
| 04:18.20 | Cairenn | if authors tell me that their mods are current and functional, I'll turn on the links |
| 04:18.28 | Cairenn | if authors update, I'll turn on the links |
| 04:19.07 | Cairenn | there's only so much I can do, ya know? |
| 04:19.26 | Cairenn | gotta rely on the authors and the community to help out too at some point |
| 04:19.29 | Amarande | also, any word on whether there's a price cut for epic flying? |
| 04:20.04 | Cairenn | the art for the page has to be updated yet to show the icon for ace & home site |
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| 04:44.45 | kd3 | gah, crap. need to get started writing my 2.4 version of the "it's patch day sticky" |
| 04:45.03 | kd3 | the little birdies still thinking it's going to be the 25th? |
| 04:45.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Last I heard... |
| 04:48.37 | Amarande | crap |
| 04:48.48 | Amarande | four more days of WoW before I have to make do with alternate addons or take a break |
| 04:51.31 | Guillotine | Theres a script you can run to hack up your addons to work: |
| 04:52.13 | Guillotine | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:53.04 | MentalPower | ~lart Guillotine |
| 04:53.04 | purl | chops Guillotine in half with a free Solaris 7 CD |
| 04:53.26 | MentalPower | that won't compile anyways |
| 04:53.34 | MentalPower | lua> while "CombatLogVersion<2" do "CombatLogVersion+=1" end |
| 04:53.35 | lua_bot | MentalPower: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '"CombatLogVersion+=1"' |
| 04:54.06 | Guillotine | oh, whoops |
| 04:54.14 | Guillotine | meh |
| 04:54.32 | Guillotine | You have no idea how many people fall for all strings being evaluated as true |
| 05:01.10 | MentalPower | :) |
| 05:02.54 | Shirik | whoo |
| 05:02.57 | Shirik | I improved from last night's raid |
| 05:03.06 | Shirik | last night I had 7 dps, tonight's I had 14 |
| 05:03.35 | kd3 | RFC: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2856221186&sid=1&pageNo=4#68 |
| 05:07.05 | Guillotine | kd3: why i the 2.3.0 one? Why not a new one? |
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| 05:07.51 | MentalPower | cause its an RFC |
| 05:07.58 | kd3 | because I'll start a new thread when I'm sure slouken's on and will sticky it |
| 05:07.59 | MentalPower | less liable to cause panic that way |
| 05:08.08 | MentalPower | that too |
| 05:08.24 | Iriel | has there been an /official/ 2.4 is coming on date X post yet from Blizzard? |
| 05:09.12 | MentalPower | nop |
| 05:09.43 | Iriel | I suspect slouken wont want to sticky it until 2.4 is upon us officially |
| 05:10.31 | kd3 | he put 2.3 up a few days early |
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| 05:17.03 | batrick | anybody know of a *nix distro that uses SIGTERM for ctrl+c? |
| 05:17.07 | batrick | instead of SIGINT |
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| 05:19.48 | MentalPower | I think you'll have to edit the kernel for that one |
| 05:20.17 | batrick | i'm pretty sure it's shell specific |
| 05:20.25 | batrick | nothing to do with the kernel |
| 05:20.26 | MentalPower | oh? |
| 05:20.30 | MentalPower | hmm... |
| 05:20.37 | MentalPower | dunno then |
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| 05:24.14 | Iriel | stty is your friend, I suspect |
| 05:26.02 | batrick | i'm just wondering if there is one by default :P |
| 05:30.26 | Duman | stty will change the behavior of ^C? |
| 05:30.33 | batrick | it can yes |
| 05:30.44 | Duman | don't think there is any *NIX that will use SIGTERM as ^C's default, no |
| 05:30.49 | Duman | hmm |
| 05:30.53 | Iriel | Actually stty can change which key you use to trigger SIGINT |
| 05:30.57 | Iriel | but it can't trigger a SIGTERM |
| 05:31.26 | Iriel | Some browsing on the internets implies that you can get SIGTERM delivered to CHILD PROCESSES of a detached process if you dont trap your signals properly in the parent. |
| 05:31.40 | Iriel | TBH it's been too long since I played with signals at the C level |
| 05:31.52 | Duman | should be SIGHUP |
| 05:32.11 | Duman | (sent to children when parent goes away) |
| 05:32.50 | Duman | fuck, my shell box is not happy |
| 05:32.54 | Duman | it just crashed again tonight |
| 05:33.00 | Duman | I need to build a new one |
| 05:33.07 | Duman | I have like 100+ people on this one :( |
| 05:33.11 | Duman | and like 400G of data |
| 05:33.12 | Duman | sigh |
| 05:33.35 | Duman | Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on |
| 05:33.35 | Duman | /dev/sda8 461G 364G 74G 84% /home |
| 05:33.43 | Duman | yarg. |
| 05:33.46 | Iriel | night all |
| 05:33.49 | Duman | night |
| 05:33.51 | batrick | night |
| 05:34.11 | Duman | damn, gonna run like $4k to build a box spec'd like I want |
| 05:34.13 | Sixen | Hai2u Duman. |
| 05:34.17 | Amarande | well, both SIGHUP and SIGTERM can be caught, right? |
| 05:34.18 | kd3 | eesh |
| 05:34.18 | Duman | I should start collecting fees |
| 05:34.24 | Sixen | HAi2u Kd3. |
| 05:34.26 | Duman | amarande: of course |
| 05:34.26 | batrick | Amarande: ya |
| 05:34.30 | kd3 | 4k? what kind of god box are you trying to run? |
| 05:34.32 | Duman | hello sixen |
| 05:34.32 | kd3 | 'lo |
| 05:34.32 | Sixen | Oh, KD3, can you add the new patch to the mirror? |
| 05:34.34 | Sixen | =) |
| 05:34.42 | kd3 | I don't run the mirror, sbo does |
| 05:34.43 | Duman | kd3: 8x500G drives, 8G ram |
| 05:34.57 | Sixen | Argh, ok. |
| 05:35.08 | Duman | (nothing too fancy processor-side) |
| 05:35.17 | Duman | most of the cost is in the drives, anyway |
| 05:35.29 | Duman | well, i guess about half, heh |
| 05:35.34 | kd3 | heh, that's where most of the money I spent on my (now $2k) computer went |
| 05:35.37 | Duman | oh yeah it has dual 700w power supplies, heh |
| 05:35.43 | kd3 | 6 500GB hdds |
| 05:35.46 | Duman | word |
| 05:35.56 | Duman | I still need to build a fileserver for home |
| 05:36.00 | Corrodias | are 500g's relable enough? |
| 05:36.07 | Corrodias | *reliable |
| 05:36.09 | Duman | and I"m not going to break down and guy a damn terastation or something |
| 05:36.21 | Duman | corrodias: sure.. these are RE2 drives at least, too |
| 05:36.23 | kd3 | I had to RMA one, but 1/6 was about what I was expecting |
| 05:36.28 | Duman | and I'd probably run them raid 10 |
| 05:36.42 | kd3 | considering there are TB drives out now, 500GBs have been pretty well-tested by this point |
| 05:36.43 | Corrodias | i'd do raid 50 >:o i'm that hardcore |
| 05:36.48 | Duman | bahah |
| 05:37.13 | Duman | well, I probably could do 50 w/o worrying baout the extra overhead for parity calc |
| 05:37.19 | Duman | heck, i do raid 5 right now |
| 05:37.22 | Corrodias | alright, cool. a few years back, when 300gb was the largest reasonably-priced size, the 300's were too unreliable, so i chose 250's |
| 05:37.24 | Duman | on 4x200G |
| 05:37.49 | Duman | I just don't like the "wasted" space :( |
| 05:37.57 | Duman | I mean, since I'm already mirroring :) |
| 05:38.15 | Duman | it's either that or something like raid 6 or whatever the double-parity one is |
| 05:38.40 | Corrodias | i've always liked the sound of 5. however, i have no raid at the moment. |
| 05:38.42 | MentalPower | ScytheBlade1: ping! |
| 05:38.52 | kd3 | meh, I went raid5 with 5x500GB... 1.8TB formatted WFM |
| 05:38.53 | Corrodias | i didn't have enough cash for redundancy |
| 05:39.23 | kd3 | http://wowi.pastey.net/84174 |
| 05:39.29 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm |
| 05:39.46 | NightHawkTheSane | its not possible to ping your current location on the map programatically, is it |
| 05:39.46 | NightHawkTheSane | ? |
| 05:40.02 | MentalPower | minimap, sure |
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| 05:41.30 | Corrodias | PingMeOnTheMap() |
| 05:41.37 | Corrodias | ha, i kid! |
| 05:42.04 | kd3 | lmao... my edit of the 2.3.3 sticky pinged bluetracker |
| 05:42.31 | Sixen | You should feel special =] |
| 05:46.39 | Duman | sometimes I think that reading the forums causes me to lose brain cells... |
| 05:46.56 | kd3 | wut r brain cells? |
| 05:47.02 | Duman | exactly |
| 05:47.55 | art3mis | anyone good at php? |
| 05:48.01 | Duman | sometimes, what's up |
| 05:48.12 | Duman | I'm more a perl person, but i can usually hack up php, too ;) |
| 05:48.15 | art3mis | http://signup.gothi.ca |
| 05:48.22 | art3mis | i need that prettified ;P |
| 05:48.31 | Duman | uh |
| 05:48.37 | art3mis | sorry i meant graphical php embeds ;P |
| 05:48.37 | Duman | the generic index page? |
| 05:49.01 | art3mis | http://signup.gothi.ca/autosignup.php |
| 05:49.04 | Duman | Welcome to signup.gothi.ca! |
| 05:49.04 | Duman | This is the standard index of your website. You can easily delete it or replace it with another file. This is the index.html file in the web directory. |
| 05:49.05 | Duman | For questions or problems please contact the server administrator. |
| 05:49.05 | art3mis | heh oops |
| 05:49.07 | Duman | ahh |
| 05:49.30 | Duman | I'm not a UI/design person, sorry :( |
| 05:49.38 | art3mis | oh well |
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| 05:49.57 | Duman | all my web pages look like the web USED to look back in '94 :) |
| 05:50.25 | Duman | or maybe even '92, heh |
| 05:50.32 | batrick | those were some of the best ones |
| 05:50.45 | batrick | i get so tired of sifting through dribble to find what I want |
| 05:50.45 | Duman | gopher! |
| 05:51.09 | art3mis | *cough*wiki*cough* |
| 05:51.13 | art3mis | archie! |
| 05:51.24 | Duman | haha archie |
| 05:51.37 | batrick | drivel* |
| 05:51.39 | Duman | man, that was all there was really |
| 05:52.11 | batrick | really though, plain text web pages are usually the best with minimal pictures |
| 05:52.21 | art3mis | usenet archie ftp giopher telnet |
| 05:52.27 | art3mis | thats all you needed ;P |
| 05:52.37 | art3mis | oh and irc |
| 05:52.49 | art3mis | when script wars were awesome! |
| 05:52.57 | art3mis | all hail Vassago! |
| 05:53.01 | kd3 | groans |
| 05:53.03 | art3mis | and dethnite |
| 05:53.25 | art3mis | so here's the deal with the gothica site as im setting it up |
| 05:53.35 | art3mis | right now its php5mysqlapache2 |
| 05:53.35 | Duman | ./tsunami art3mis |
| 05:53.59 | Duman | it's all about EdWarBot |
| 05:54.02 | Duman | god |
| 05:54.07 | Duman | I've been on IRC too long |
| 05:54.10 | art3mis | complete with ftp and shell, gonna be adding in Xen in a couple of days too |
| 05:54.17 | art3mis | Combot ;P |
| 05:54.20 | Duman | heh |
| 05:54.39 | Duman | lame, they took my name out of the /info |
| 05:54.42 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:54.45 | Duman | well, this is some hybrid derivative, anyway |
| 05:57.11 | Duman | altho hybrid was my patches and andother guy's |
| 05:57.17 | Duman | mostly, anyway |
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| 05:58.39 | art3mis | i need someone make that signup page pretty |
| 05:58.59 | Sixen | ~seen scytheblade1 |
| 05:59.01 | purl | scytheblade1 is currently on #wowi-lounge #utah ##pxe. Has said a total of 2 messages. Is idling for 1h 13m 3s, last said: 'Last I heard...'. |
| 05:59.43 | batrick | http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archive/releases/20080317fact.htm |
| 05:59.52 | batrick | intel finally talking about 6+ cores |
| 06:00.10 | Duman | yeah |
| 06:00.36 | MentalPower | Duman: "Remind us if we've left you out." |
| 06:01.04 | Duman | I know :) |
| 06:02.00 | Duman | god it's been so long since I last hacked on ircd |
| 06:02.03 | Duman | that's all I did in college tho |
| 06:02.12 | Duman | it was the best way (for me) to procrastinate |
| 06:02.13 | Duman | heh |
| 06:02.54 | MentalPower | lol |
| 06:03.18 | MentalPower | still is the best way to procrastinate |
| 06:03.29 | MentalPower | hacking at <something> |
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| 06:04.25 | Duman | true :) |
| 06:04.28 | kd3 | qft |
| 06:04.40 | Duman | I have been stuck in "ops land" for a long time now, tho.. my coding is rusty |
| 06:04.42 | Duman | it makes me sad, really |
| 06:04.46 | kd3 | anyway, wth am I doing up after a 6 hour drive? |
| 06:04.49 | Duman | I need a coding project |
| 06:04.50 | kd3 | knocks himself out |
| 06:04.54 | Duman | night kd3 |
| 06:05.08 | Cairenn | [Ammo]: ping? |
| 06:05.10 | MentalPower | Duman: auctioneer is looking for coders :) |
| 06:05.15 | Duman | really? |
| 06:05.19 | Duman | I love optimizing shit |
| 06:05.21 | MentalPower | we always are |
| 06:05.27 | Duman | I'll take a peek at the code |
| 06:05.38 | MentalPower | http://svn.norganna.org |
| 06:05.38 | Duman | I'm no lua expert, but code is code (well, sort of) |
| 06:05.45 | Duman | anon svn? |
| 06:05.51 | MentalPower | yup |
| 06:05.56 | Duman | kewl |
| 06:06.09 | MentalPower | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:06.13 | Duman | I _do_ use auc advanced, after all |
| 06:06.16 | Duman | k |
| 06:06.19 | Duman | I'll just look first |
| 06:06.26 | Duman | if things look intriguing, I may bite :) |
| 06:06.26 | MentalPower | np |
| 06:06.31 | MentalPower | hehehe |
| 06:09.05 | Cairenn | bites when begged prettily |
| 06:09.11 | Cairenn | errrr |
| 06:09.52 | Duman | lol |
| 06:10.42 | MentalPower | wow, nice |
| 06:11.08 | MentalPower | cladhaire: we need a topic change :P |
| 06:11.54 | MentalPower | or Shirik or dolby-wowi |
| 06:11.57 | MentalPower | or widger|home |
| 06:12.01 | Shirik | ? |
| 06:12.06 | Cairenn | nope |
| 06:12.16 | MentalPower | topic change |
| 06:12.22 | MentalPower | [02:08:54]* Cairennbites when begged prettily |
| 06:12.30 | MentalPower | :) |
| 06:12.36 | Cairenn | nope |
| 06:12.42 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Shirik -> http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.3.x ToC: 20300 | WoW programming book http://tinyurl.com/2gdel9 | "the best shit about drinking is that you end up drunk" - Tierrie |
| 06:12.43 | MentalPower | awww :( |
| 06:12.45 | Shirik | there we go |
| 06:12.55 | Cairenn | hehehehe |
| 06:12.57 | batrick | ~fail shirik |
| 06:12.58 | purl | shirik: FAIL! |
| 06:13.14 | batrick | ~test |
| 06:13.15 | purl | Failed! |
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| 06:13.59 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.3.x ToC: 20300 | WoW programming book http://tinyurl.com/2gdel9 | "You're making it too complicated" - Iriel |
| 06:17.57 | batrick | that's almost an einstien quote |
| 06:18.17 | batrick | einstein* |
| 06:18.27 | Cairenn | It's very Iriel, that's for sure |
| 06:30.39 | ZealotOnAStick | Ok, I have Mining and Skinning on my little Paladin. I need to drop one to pick up Enchanting. |
| 06:30.43 | ZealotOnAStick | Which one should I keep? |
| 06:31.18 | Amarande | Keep Mining |
| 06:31.24 | Keias | ^ |
| 06:32.51 | ZealotOnAStick | I'm anticipating ore and gem prices to drop in 2.4, though . . . |
| 06:36.17 | Amarande | ore? meh, there are three professions that need metal as a main ingredient |
| 06:37.48 | batrick | gems are always in demand... keep mining |
| 06:38.01 | batrick | you just need to know when to sell them |
| 06:39.55 | art3mis | http://www.enomalism.com/downloads/ <-- woot |
| 06:40.04 | art3mis | single server opensource! |
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| 07:05.28 | Guillotine | Does anybody know hwo Elloria is? |
| 07:07.28 | NightHawkTheSane | ZealotOnAStick: skinning is trivial to level compared to mining, so keep mining, if you decide you want to switch later, its much les painful |
| 07:07.38 | NightHawkTheSane | responds promptly! |
| 07:12.10 | widger|home | woohoo! |
| 07:12.56 | Guillotine | Hey widgertick! |
| 07:13.04 | widgertick | Heya =) |
| 07:13.43 | widgertick | ZealotOnAStick: Even more promptly, I agree with with NightHawkTheLate |
| 07:14.05 | widgertick | Noobs care less about you skinning their corpses then stealing their nodes too |
| 07:14.39 | Cairenn | Guillotine: was that supposed to be "who" or "how"? |
| 07:14.41 | ZealotOnAStick | What the heck is Enomalism? |
| 07:14.57 | Guillotine | Cairenn: good point. Who :P |
| 07:14.58 | Cairenn | "hwo" could easily be either |
| 07:15.05 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 07:15.21 | Guillotine | Somebody is using the UI forums as a PM system to contact him/her -_- |
| 07:15.29 | Cairenn | ah |
| 07:15.30 | widgertick | Grr |
| 07:15.36 | Cairenn | well, we've seen that before |
| 07:16.16 | Guillotine | So I'm going to try to cover the entire front page with my own 'most recent responses'. Haven't done it in years, but it seems to be pretty quiet right now |
| 07:16.32 | Cairenn | hahahahahha |
| 07:16.40 | Cairenn | ah, yes, the fun and games |
| 07:16.58 | Cairenn | misses a certain forum troll that used to do that all the time |
| 07:17.33 | Guillotine | zomg, Shoryuu? |
| 07:17.38 | Cairenn | indeed |
| 07:17.42 | Guillotine | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:17.51 | Cairenn | has anyone heard from him? |
| 07:17.56 | Guillotine | Nope :'( |
| 07:17.57 | widgertick | Guillotine: Please don't? |
| 07:18.06 | Guillotine | widgertick: They're all constructive comments! |
| 07:18.39 | widgertick | Okay =) |
| 07:19.24 | Guillotine | I think so far every reply either has a link to the addon requested or a script to do what they wanted |
| 07:24.22 | ZealotOnAStick | Dammit. I keep trying to skin things now. |
| 07:24.45 | batrick | Shirik: ping |
| 07:28.40 | art3mis | ZealotOnAStick: linode.com essentially ;P |
| 07:34.51 | NightHawkTheSane | weee.. 2 nethervoid cloaks dropped. both went to holy priests |
| 07:35.57 | art3mis | holy priests are the new hunters ;P |
| 07:36.57 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe |
| 07:37.07 | NightHawkTheSane | well, we only have one spriest and one lock in the raid, both have it |
| 07:38.18 | Amarande | nah, hunters roll on the really inane stuff |
| 07:38.20 | Amarande | like alanna's embrace :S |
| 07:38.37 | Amarande | remember when that robe was actually good? :| |
| 07:41.36 | art3mis | well thts just wierd |
| 07:41.43 | Guillotine | well, I have half the first page's posts with constructive comments, think thats the best I'll get tonight :P |
| 07:41.52 | art3mis | two old friends no longer have facebook accounts and arent listed on my friends list |
| 07:42.41 | art3mis | on an even wierder note im not even registered under my email or name and another old friend found me ;P |
| 07:42.51 | art3mis | chicks are wierd |
| 07:45.27 | Guillotine | So who's going to release an AddOn that makes adding textures/colors/links to guild MOTD or notes easy? Or do we keep this to ourselves? |
| 07:47.07 | MentalPower | that ones all yours Guillotine |
| 07:49.19 | Guillotine | Boo, but making addons for endusers to use sucks |
| 07:49.31 | Guillotine | well, ones that'll be patched if I release them at least :P |
| 07:49.53 | MentalPower | so you think blizz will remove it if you release it? |
| 07:50.18 | Guillotine | It happened with item links, and kremonte and I didn't even release that outside of this channel (and to Slouken) :( |
| 07:50.24 | Amarande | oy, I just hope Bartender doesn't break on 2.4 |
| 07:50.38 | Amarande | I NEED four action bars on screen at once :look |
| 07:52.24 | Cairenn | pokes nevcairiel |
| 07:53.01 | Guillotine | ~whalepoke Cairenn |
| 07:53.10 | Cairenn | ~whaleparry Guillotine |
| 07:53.11 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry Guillotine's attacks. |
| 07:53.36 | Guillotine | ~whaleparryparry Cairenn |
| 07:53.58 | Cairenn | heh |
| 07:55.34 | Guillotine | Anyway, night all :) |
| 07:56.00 | Guillotine | We have to have a PTR party on Sunday or Monday :D Spend all our money to buy fireworks and such |
| 07:56.11 | Cairenn | sweet dreams Guillotine |
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| 08:01.46 | [Ammo] | Cairenn: pong |
| 08:03.43 | Thrae | art3mis: I have a quest thingy? |
| 08:09.32 | Amarande | hmm |
| 08:09.35 | Amarande | actually, that's a good question |
| 08:09.40 | Amarande | has anyone had problems with bartender on the PTR? |
| 08:14.58 | Thrae | Never gets old. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6ljFaKRTrI |
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| 08:16.59 | batrick | http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/03/expelled.php |
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| 08:30.41 | art3mis | Thrae: couldnt remember who actually made it |
| 08:30.52 | art3mis | yers was the first name that popped to mind |
| 08:32.47 | Thrae | I'm flattered. |
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| 08:53.26 | art3mis | i wouldnt be |
| 08:53.35 | art3mis | it's never a good thing when a name is in my brain ;P |
| 08:55.55 | |pez| | Ah, man, I love my boyfriend right now. |
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| 08:57.08 | sacarasc | |pez|: lies |
| 08:58.39 | |pez| | Oh, it's true. |
| 08:58.43 | |pez| | he gave me a footmassage |
| 08:58.47 | |pez| | it was awesomely awesome. |
| 09:01.41 | Cairenn | oh yummy! |
| 09:02.08 | |pez| | I've have pain in my feet since... forever. |
| 09:02.19 | |pez| | concrete floor which is usually used for ice, is not for pezfeet. |
| 09:02.59 | Cairenn | nothing fucks my back up faster than having to stand around on concrete |
| 09:03.07 | Cairenn | 2 hrs and I'm out flat for a week |
| 09:03.27 | Cairenn | so I empathize |
| 09:04.12 | |pez| | I work 8 hour shifts, and I walk around a lot. :\ |
| 09:04.23 | Cairenn | :( |
| 09:04.41 | |pez| | I will survive! |
| 09:04.58 | Cairenn | gives |pez| a nice warm foot bath |
| 09:05.07 | |pez| | I think i ned to find a foot therapist when I get home though. |
| 09:05.12 | |pez| | I'm... flatfooted? |
| 09:05.18 | |pez| | and I need some special soles. |
| 09:05.25 | |pez| | might have been better if I had had that. |
| 09:06.50 | Antiarc | When I was in highschool, I got some special molded insoles from a podiatrist. They probably singlehandedly saved my ankles, arches, and knees. |
| 09:07.14 | |pez| | my ankles are... not good :\ |
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| 09:12.19 | art3mis | i think someone eneds to go around the net and start an organization to fine or sue people that advertise "opensource" and then wont give you access to thier products without paying |
| 09:12.27 | art3mis | fine/sue/kill |
| 09:13.36 | Antiarc | who does that? |
| 09:14.40 | nevcairiel | alot of people, really |
| 09:15.05 | art3mis | i just came across a page for some software for web based vps hosting |
| 09:15.15 | art3mis | they claim tjhier opensource roots run deep |
| 09:15.27 | art3mis | but you cant access shit without filling out a form and having a sales person call you |
| 09:16.13 | art3mis | i can understand they built something neat on top of the open source |
| 09:16.21 | art3mis | but if you're not giving it out it's NOT open source |
| 09:16.24 | Cairenn | (fully admitting my ignorance on the subject, but ...) it's my understanding that open source doesn't mean free, nor does it mean you give up all copyright/intellectual property rights |
| 09:16.42 | art3mis | open source means and implies the source is open |
| 09:16.55 | Antiarc | Eh. That's not entirely true, art3mis. "Built on open source" is not the same as "we are open source" |
| 09:17.00 | art3mis | ie linux and most of the apps that run on it are open source |
| 09:17.16 | art3mis | Antiarc: true but its still a missnomer and irritating as fuck |
| 09:17.49 | Antiarc | Not necessarily. Saying "Hey, we built on open source" indicates that they're rooted in software that is fire-tested and trusted. |
| 09:18.07 | nevcairiel | the original definition of "Open Source" by the OSI implied "free" too |
| 09:18.18 | art3mis | you download and get the source |
| 09:18.27 | Antiarc | Are they saying their software is open source? Or that they're rooted in open source? |
| 09:18.28 | art3mis | you're free to do what you want EXCEPT sell it |
| 09:18.31 | Antiarc | They're two very different things. |
| 09:18.36 | art3mis | yup |
| 09:18.40 | art3mis | they claim its open source |
| 09:18.46 | Antiarc | Uhh. That completely depends on the license, and many licenses allow you to sell the software. |
| 09:18.58 | Antiarc | Hell, just give us a link so we can check it out :P |
| 09:19.00 | Cairenn | "you download and get the source" - that doesn't mean it's free to download, just that when you do, you get the source with it |
| 09:19.00 | art3mis | Antiarc: im generalizing |
| 09:19.13 | Cairenn | right? |
| 09:19.18 | art3mis | uh no |
| 09:19.25 | Cairenn | doesn't necessarily mean* |
| 09:19.41 | Cairenn | why no? |
| 09:19.45 | nevcairiel | like original PGP, you could view the source, still not use it without buying |
| 09:20.15 | nevcairiel | they called themself "open source", but the OSI and FSF didnt |
| 09:21.41 | nevcairiel | original definition of the term "Open Source": http://opensource.org/docs/osd |
| 09:21.58 | nevcairiel | "Open source doesn't just mean access to the source code." |
| 09:22.33 | art3mis | The program must include source code, and must allow distribution in source code as well as compiled form. Where some form of a product is not distributed with source code, there must be a well-publicized means of obtaining the source code for no more than a reasonable reproduction cost preferably, downloading via the Internet without charge. |
| 09:23.00 | Wobin | I jsut got invited to a pirate 21st |
| 09:23.12 | art3mis | ?? |
| 09:23.22 | Wobin | This now obligates me to turn up with a steering wheel down my pants |
| 09:23.28 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 09:24.27 | art3mis | anywys im done ranting |
| 09:24.54 | art3mis | it seems that there's a few web based managmeent hosting softwres for virt |
| 09:25.10 | art3mis | but none of them are opensource gpl or mature ;P |
| 09:25.16 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 09:25.27 | art3mis | the ocz irritates me the most though |
| 09:25.35 | art3mis | or whatever it is |
| 09:25.44 | batrick | they probably mean it's open source to the people that pay for it |
| 09:25.47 | art3mis | locally it's free |
| 09:25.50 | batrick | which doesn't seem that bad 2 me |
| 09:26.02 | art3mis | across a network it's not |
| 09:26.14 | art3mis | or rather the managmenet of said local instlalation isnt |
| 09:26.29 | art3mis | like liquidvm and hypervm as examples |
| 09:26.46 | art3mis | and the only beta of that enomaly that i linked earlier is for windows |
| 09:26.53 | art3mis | and only supports the amazon thingy |
| 09:27.15 | art3mis | where you have to sign up for an amazon account and there is a possibiility of random charges depending on what you screw with |
| 09:27.59 | art3mis | the other thing that bugs me about all these companies touting opensource for pay products is the google hits ;P |
| 09:28.11 | art3mis | makes it REALLY hard to find what you want |
| 09:28.25 | art3mis | oh pez you stil around? |
| 09:28.51 | Cairenn | hey nevcairiel? |
| 09:28.57 | nevcairiel | ? |
| 09:29.04 | Cairenn | bartender gtg for 2.4? |
| 09:29.09 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 09:29.16 | Cairenn | k |
| 09:29.35 | nevcairiel | action button stuff didnt really change n 2.4 |
| 09:29.36 | nevcairiel | sadly |
| 09:29.40 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 09:29.41 | nevcairiel | they need to polish that code =P |
| 09:29.43 | art3mis | bartender needs an autobar bar ;P |
| 09:29.58 | sacarasc | too many bars in that sentence |
| 09:30.03 | art3mis | cuz dipshit is moving to librock ;P |
| 09:30.11 | nevcairiel | he is? |
| 09:30.12 | nevcairiel | oh my |
| 09:30.23 | nevcairiel | BT4 will be easily extensible |
| 09:30.26 | Cairenn | which dipshit is that? |
| 09:30.35 | art3mis | toad or whatever his name is |
| 09:30.42 | art3mis | the autobar guy |
| 09:32.40 | art3mis | and really dipshit is a generic name for anyone that moves to librock ;P |
| 09:32.48 | art3mis | since i appearantly LOVE it so much ;P |
| 09:39.41 | art3mis | htm |
| 09:39.50 | art3mis | appearantly dtc+dtc-xen should be able to |
| 09:39.58 | art3mis | someone remind me of that later tomorrow ;P |
| 09:40.55 | art3mis | and now.... |
| 09:40.58 | art3mis | TO BED! |
| 09:41.42 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.3.x ToC: 20300 | WoW programming book http://tinyurl.com/2gdel9 | "You're making it too complicated" - Iriel | appearantly dtc+dtc-xen should be able to, someone remind me of that later tomorrow - art3mis |
| 09:41.49 | art3mis | woot thanks |
| 09:41.53 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 09:42.14 | art3mis | http://www.woot.com/ |
| 09:42.29 | art3mis | i had a nice wiki page with a lsit of all the web absed management tools |
| 09:42.49 | art3mis | and awesomely enough i accidently closed it and lsot the history and cant remember what i typed to get it to pop up in the search ;P |
| 09:43.58 | art3mis | http://signup.gothi.ca/autosignup.php <-- single file you can get with viewsource.. think someone could make it pretty for me? |
| 09:43.59 | wereHamster | FF3 remembers history of each tab if you close the window |
| 09:44.11 | art3mis | also feel free to signup for a XXXXX.gothi.ca site and email if ya want |
| 09:44.29 | art3mis | i clsoed ff |
| 09:44.32 | art3mis | closed |
| 09:44.42 | wereHamster | you know you can reopen recently closed tabs with ctrl+shift+t ? |
| 09:44.43 | art3mis | and its a habit for me to set it to purge that stuff |
| 09:44.51 | art3mis | its not a tab!!! |
| 09:44.57 | art3mis | ff was fully closed down |
| 09:44.59 | art3mis | ;P |
| 09:45.28 | wereHamster | it still remembers the history.. unless, of course, you tell it to purge everything :) |
| 09:45.34 | art3mis | but as a side note, nope didnt know that, thanks |
| 09:46.11 | art3mis | oh hey cairenn |
| 09:46.17 | Cairenn | hmmm? |
| 09:46.23 | art3mis | i meet with the CTO for that job i went to last monday |
| 09:46.30 | Cairenn | how'd it go? |
| 09:46.53 | art3mis | my wifes boss(who runs a headhutter/placement place) says that the emails they've sent are mostly a rubber stamp ;P |
| 09:47.16 | Cairenn | aka you've got the job |
| 09:47.22 | Cairenn | (if you want it) |
| 09:47.58 | art3mis | he emailed saturday night at like 10 i replied at 4 he emailed to setup phone interview monday, i went in for in person interview 2 hours later and he kept making speach mistakes like "we'll have to show you our data center some time" |
| 09:48.10 | Cairenn | yeah, you had been saying that |
| 09:48.15 | art3mis | and "you dont need to dress up unless the ISO cert people are coming in" |
| 09:48.19 | art3mis | and bacon friday! |
| 09:48.24 | Cairenn | heh |
| 09:48.50 | art3mis | his email today was "great come on in on onday at 4pm you know where to find me, ill make the introduction" |
| 09:49.11 | Cairenn | heh |
| 09:49.15 | art3mis | they have soooo much bw at thier data center |
| 09:49.50 | art3mis | at least 5 backbone connects to majors (verizon, mae east mae west sprint mci) |
| 09:50.07 | art3mis | and on min about 15 oc3's |
| 09:50.21 | wereHamster | oc3 isn't that fast nowadays |
| 09:50.27 | art3mis | direct fiber cross country/world conenctions to thier branch offices |
| 09:50.49 | art3mis | wereHamster: it is when you consider there's 15 of them ;P |
| 09:51.06 | art3mis | wonder if they have an oc192 |
| 09:51.27 | wereHamster | oc192 is a whole different league :) |
| 09:51.32 | art3mis | wereHamster: not to mention the eprvious direct backbone connects ;P |
| 09:51.55 | art3mis | they provide realtime market data to about 1800 places around the world ;P |
| 09:52.09 | art3mis | thier latency is measured in nanoseconds ;P |
| 09:52.29 | art3mis | it looks and sounds like it's gonna be an awesomely fun high stress job |
| 09:52.49 | art3mis | cuz a 1 second lag can cost thier clients very very large ammounts of money |
| 09:55.15 | wereHamster | do they have a homepage? |
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| 09:57.36 | art3mis | https://www.lightspeedtrading.com/Lightspeed_Trading_platform.php |
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| 09:59.02 | art3mis | one of thier neat benefits is that after 6months or something you cang et a free account with them and do trades for a 1$per |
| 09:59.08 | art3mis | instead of etrades 13$ |
| 09:59.40 | art3mis | they actually used to be owned by etrade and then 2 of the ceo's from etrade bought out thier branch and formed this company |
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| 10:11.11 | wereHamster | and what exactly will you be doing there? s/w development? |
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| 10:26.05 | SpiderBK | hi |
| 10:28.36 | batrick | hi |
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| 10:39.35 | SpiderBK | can i do something like that: ID[i].spell[n]={i=i, n=spellName} ? |
| 10:40.07 | Shirik|AFK | well, what are you trying to do? |
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| 10:41.53 | SpiderBK | oh just wanted to write the table example and noticed that makes no sense |
| 10:44.01 | SpiderBK | ok what i wanna do is a table like this: ID={[i] = spell}; and i should be the spellid and spell the spellname |
| 10:46.47 | Vangual | anyone happen to know how/if "tooltips" are translated in the german client? |
| 10:46.54 | Vangual | (the word alone) |
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| 11:00.21 | [Liquidor] | What's wrong with this macro? (the modifier doesn't work): /cast [nocombat,stance:1]Charge; [combat,nostance:3]Berserker Stance; [nocombat,stance:3]Intercept; [combat,stance:3]Intercept; [modifier:ctrl,nocombat]Battle Stance |
| 11:01.53 | SpiderBK | maybe there is something else bound to ctrl+your key? |
| 11:03.13 | zenzelezz | did you try moving the modifier one before the rest? |
| 11:04.37 | [Liquidor] | /cast [modifier:ctrl,nocombat]Battle Stance; [nocombat,stance:1]Charge; [combat,nostance:3]Berserker Stance; [nocombat,stance:3]Intercept; [combat,stance:3]Intercept ? |
| 11:05.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, try that |
| 11:05.54 | [Liquidor] | kk |
| 11:07.29 | Corrodias | indeed |
| 11:07.58 | Corrodias | in your original, there's are [combat,nostance:3] and [combat,stance:3] conditions before your [modifier] one |
| 11:08.02 | Corrodias | thus, it can never be reached |
| 11:08.25 | Corrodias | well, unless you're not in combat |
| 11:08.52 | Corrodias | i missed that part. let's see... |
| 11:09.55 | Corrodias | oh, i don't know. i'm exhausted. good night |
| 11:10.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | gnight |
| 11:16.29 | batrick | SpiderBK: you should look at the GetSpellName function |
| 11:16.34 | batrick | !g GetSpellName |
| 11:16.35 | batbot | batrick: API GetSpellName - WoWWiki - Your guide to the World of Warcraft <http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetSpellName> |
| 11:17.11 | SpiderBK | well that is not my problem, i just have some problems with the table creation |
| 11:17.17 | batrick | keep in mind that if you make a table of spellID -> Name, that table has meaning only for the player and no one else |
| 11:17.29 | batrick | what kind of problems? |
| 11:17.35 | SpiderBK | mom |
| 11:22.39 | SpiderBK | when i check the spells i want to create a table entry for each spellid and spellname. and i have no idea how to work with tables like that, never done something like that before.... |
| 11:23.26 | batrick | t = {} t[spellID] = GetSpellName(spellID, "spell") |
| 11:23.31 | batrick | for each spellID |
| 11:25.02 | batrick | so... t = {} for i = 1, math.huge do local spellName = GetSpellName(i, "spell"); if not spellName then break end t[i] = spellName end |
| 11:25.33 | nevcairiel | can math.huge be used like that? |
| 11:25.37 | batrick | yes |
| 11:25.59 | nevcairiel | lua> local v = 0; for i = 1, math.huge do v = v + i end; return v |
| 11:26.04 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: Your code exceeded set CPU limits |
| 11:26.08 | nevcairiel | boo |
| 11:26.13 | batrick | --> for i = 1, math.huge do if i == 100000 then print(i) end end |
| 11:26.18 | batbot | batrick: @ maximum execution time/memory exceeded |
| 11:26.24 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 11:26.26 | batrick | grr well you get the idea :P |
| 11:26.47 | batrick | --> for i = 1, math.huge do if i == 100000 then print(i) break end end |
| 11:26.47 | batbot | batrick: 100000 |
| 11:26.50 | batrick | =) |
| 11:27.11 | nevcairiel | lua> math.huge |
| 11:27.11 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: inf |
| 11:27.15 | nevcairiel | lua> math.huge - 1 |
| 11:27.15 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: inf |
| 11:27.22 | nevcairiel | lua> math.huge - math.huge/2 |
| 11:27.22 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: nan |
| 11:27.26 | nevcairiel | boo :P |
| 11:27.42 | batrick | that's actually correct :P |
| 11:27.53 | batrick | infinity +- infinity is undefined |
| 11:28.08 | nevcairiel | but it was half infinity! |
| 11:28.08 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 11:28.16 | batrick | --> math.huge/2 |
| 11:28.16 | batbot | batrick: > inf |
| 11:28.17 | nevcairiel | lua> math.huge/2 |
| 11:28.17 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: inf |
| 11:28.19 | batrick | :P |
| 11:28.19 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 11:28.31 | nevcairiel | yeah i figure it would react like that |
| 11:28.40 | nevcairiel | s/figure/figured/ |
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| 11:28.52 | batrick | SpiderBK: that makes sense or does it need more explanation? |
| 11:28.53 | nevcairiel | wasnt sure how fool proof the infinite code in lua was |
| 11:29.10 | batrick | well it's not Lua, it's the FPU |
| 11:29.21 | batrick | it's how IEEE defined it |
| 11:29.26 | batrick | !g IEEE 756 |
| 11:29.28 | batbot | batrick: 756 PI 1961. 1976 (4/3)(435 <http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/iel5/18/22693/01055631.pdf?tp=&isnumber=&arnumber=1055631> |
| 11:29.29 | SpiderBK | batrick: wait a moment i have to study this a bit closer |
| 11:29.33 | batrick | ok |
| 11:29.49 | batrick | hrm that's not what I wanted |
| 11:30.10 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 11:30.11 | batrick | 654 |
| 11:30.15 | batrick | err 754* |
| 11:30.32 | batrick | !g ieee 754 |
| 11:30.32 | batbot | batrick: IEEE 754-1985 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_floating-point_standard> |
| 11:32.12 | SpiderBK | batrick: you have used "spell" in GetSpellName(spellID, "spell") and on wowwiki its GetSpellName(spellID, "bookType"), what does "spell" do? or what is it for? |
| 11:32.41 | nevcairiel | "spell" is the bookType for the player spells |
| 11:32.56 | batrick | it saves you a global table lookup |
| 11:33.09 | batrick | most code uses BOOKTYPE_SPELL |
| 11:33.16 | batrick | it's a constant that is just "spell" |
| 11:33.47 | SpiderBK | ah ok |
| 11:34.21 | batrick | the "if not spellName then" is just really "if spellName == nil then" |
| 11:34.28 | batrick | it's your terminating condition if you didn't get that |
| 11:35.19 | batrick | So I'm wondering why they didn't use booleans in WoW, I think they were using Lua 4.0 for a while and then 5.0 came out about a year before release so they switched? |
| 11:38.32 | nevcairiel | dunno |
| 11:38.37 | nevcairiel | the 1/nil thing works though |
| 11:38.46 | nevcairiel | 4.0 didnt have booleans? |
| 11:39.36 | batrick | nope |
| 11:39.41 | batrick | 5.0 introduced them |
| 11:40.23 | batrick | they were working on WoW for about 5 years right? |
| 11:40.35 | batrick | makes sense they had Lua 4.0 up until 5.0 was released |
| 11:44.30 | batrick | night all |
| 12:09.10 | [Liquidor] | http://youtube.com/watch?v=R0l7efwz1EE |
| 12:09.21 | [Liquidor] | pro gamer |
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| 12:27.51 | Industrial | Fin: ping |
| 12:28.00 | Industrial | Fin: ([lL]ib|[pP]ack|[Uu][i|I]) |
| 12:28.01 | Industrial | :p |
| 12:28.13 | Industrial | er |
| 12:28.16 | Industrial | Fin: ([lL]ib|[pP]ack|[Uu][iI]) |
| 12:30.15 | Industrial | also, it doesnt work ;\ |
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| 12:30.21 | Industrial | http://fin.instinct.org/wowmods/rss/?since=3days;sites[curse]=curse;sites[ui]=ui;sites[wowace]=wowace;sites[wowi]=wowi;ignore=Lib;desc=1 |
| 12:30.25 | Industrial | ignore=Lib |
| 12:30.34 | Industrial | first entry in the rss starts with Lib atm |
| 12:31.24 | SpiderBK | how do i print a complete table? if i use DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(table.foreach(spell, print)) i get a error |
| 12:32.29 | Industrial | you cant easily because you dont know whats in a table - and all those things have to be converted to strings to pring them |
| 12:32.47 | Industrial | lua> print(tostring(function() end)) |
| 12:32.47 | lua_bot | Industrial: function: 0x631070 |
| 12:32.54 | Industrial | lua> print(tostring({})) |
| 12:32.54 | lua_bot | Industrial: table: 0x63d930 |
| 12:33.16 | Industrial | SpiderBK: the addon DevTools can do this |
| 12:33.37 | SpiderBK | whats the addon devtools? |
| 12:33.43 | zenzelezz | ~devtools |
| 12:33.44 | purl | Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet? |
| 12:35.30 | SpiderBK | i also tried to print the table with: for index,value in pairs(spell) do DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(index.." : "..value) end but it seems to loop forever... |
| 12:37.09 | SpiderBK | is there a way to stop the loop? |
| 12:38.46 | Josh_Borke | SpiderBK: break |
| 12:47.31 | wereHamster | SpiderBK, local function print(m) DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(m) end table.foreach(spell, print) |
| 12:48.47 | Josh_Borke | foreach is deprecated you heathen! |
| 12:56.43 | Josh_Borke | SpiderBK: ~devtools is your friend: /dump <table> |
| 12:58.26 | SpiderBK | i need the output in the addon later, so im not sure devtools can help me with that |
| 12:59.34 | Josh_Borke | no, it can't |
| 12:59.46 | Wobin | hehe |
| 12:59.47 | Wobin | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/5c02b866bd4c0e342e92db072f35263b.png |
| 12:59.49 | Wobin | wallhax |
| 13:00.04 | Wobin | It's an interesting view from up tehre |
| 13:00.13 | Josh_Borke | heh |
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| 13:12.48 | SpiderBK | is it possible to print the tooltip of a spellbook spell when i know the id or the spellname? |
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| 13:13.34 | deltron | in a macro |
| 13:13.34 | SpiderBK | ah think i found it |
| 13:13.35 | deltron | ? |
| 13:14.57 | dylanm | You have to tooltip scan. |
| 13:18.07 | SpiderBK | and how do i get the tooltip? |
| 13:19.22 | Josh_Borke | tooltip:SetTooltip |
| 13:19.44 | SpiderBK | i want to get and not set it? |
| 13:20.18 | Josh_Borke | http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_API#GameTooltip |
| 13:20.31 | Josh_Borke | GameTooltip:SetSpell |
| 13:21.29 | dylanm | Set its owner to ANCHOR_NONE or something. |
| 13:21.40 | dylanm | Then you scan. You scan and you lovvvvveee it. |
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| 13:32.22 | SpiderBK | so i need the "frame name" for each spell i wanna parse the tooltip, is that right? |
| 13:32.49 | zenzelezz | frame name? |
| 13:34.14 | SpiderBK | GameTooltip:SetSpell(spellId, bookType) i need the frame name for the "GameTooltip" ? |
| 13:34.34 | wereHamster | variable name |
| 13:34.48 | SpiderBK | or how can i scan the tooltip without knowing which frame to scan? |
| 13:35.20 | wereHamster | local tooltip = CreateFrame("GameTooltip); tooltip:SetSpell(spellId, bookType) |
| 13:36.51 | SpiderBK | why creating a frame? |
| 13:37.21 | SpiderBK | i only want to get the information from the spellbook... |
| 13:38.04 | wereHamster | obviously you need a tooltip frame. So either create one or use one that is available in the game |
| 13:38.46 | dylanm | Better to use your own, in general. |
| 13:39.18 | dylanm | Just so you have the best chance of getting the original data, before anyone gets to it. |
| 13:41.32 | SpiderBK | ya sure i create about 200frames so i can set the original tooltip and parse it... |
| 13:42.10 | wereHamster | you don't need to create a new tooltip each time you want to scan a spell.. reuse your frames |
| 13:42.51 | SpiderBK | i dont get it, why do i need to create a frame to get the original game data? |
| 13:43.05 | Josh_Borke | SpiderBK: you need A tooltip |
| 13:43.10 | wereHamster | because that's how the game works |
| 13:43.23 | Josh_Borke | SpiderBK: any tooltip that is of type GameTooltip will work fine. |
| 13:43.31 | Josh_Borke | SpiderBK: welcome to the pitfalls of tooltip scanning |
| 13:43.36 | SpiderBK | i dont need a tooltip, i want to parse the spellbook tooltips... |
| 13:43.45 | Josh_Borke | how can you parse a tooltip if you can never see it? |
| 13:44.19 | Josh_Borke | what tooltip are you going to parse? |
| 13:44.26 | Josh_Borke | the spellbook tooltip? and what is that? |
| 13:44.29 | wereHamster | wtf? i dont need a tooltip, i want to parse [...] tooltips ?? |
| 13:44.31 | Josh_Borke | it's a frame of type GameTooltip |
| 13:44.45 | Josh_Borke | (usually it's THE frame GameTooltip |
| 13:46.24 | wereHamster | just create a tooltip once (when your addon is loaded) and use that... |
| 13:47.05 | SpiderBK | and how would that work? i set the tooltip for every spell on that frame and then read it or what? |
| 13:47.22 | wereHamster | yes |
| 13:47.42 | SpiderBK | hmm |
| 13:47.50 | zenzelezz | the idea behind it is that tooltips have access to information you can't get any other way; that's why you scan their content |
| 13:47.56 | wereHamster | for each spell in the spellbook do mytooltip:SetSpell(...); scan(mytooltip) end |
| 13:48.37 | dylanm | Lots of things work that way. Certain item properties, NPC jobs, NPC factions, spells... |
| 13:49.43 | dylanm | Talents too, I think. |
| 13:54.21 | ralfWORK | tonight is Gruul |
| 13:54.36 | ralfWORK | with another guild |
| 13:54.49 | deltron | gruul FINALLY dropped another DST |
| 13:55.01 | ralfWORK | lol rogue trink? |
| 13:55.05 | deltron | this is only the third time in our guild's history that it dropped |
| 13:55.10 | ralfWORK | wow |
| 13:55.10 | deltron | this time it went to our ret pally |
| 13:55.17 | ralfWORK | sigh |
| 13:55.17 | deltron | 2 more melee need it still :/ |
| 13:55.20 | ralfWORK | lolret :( |
| 13:55.25 | deltron | he's good dps |
| 13:55.50 | ralfWORK | it's ok, I have only seen that stupid caster cape drop off Moroes once in our entire 20 weeks of kara :( |
| 13:56.15 | ralfWORK | I think HKM drops a cape, maybe it'll drop tonight |
| 13:57.17 | ralfWORK | oh, I was going to whore myself around Arc to get the belt off last guy |
| 13:57.30 | ralfWORK | I'm lucky; last night it dropped on 1st try :D |
| 13:58.22 | zenzelezz | we had the tank bracers drop off Void Reaver on our first or second kill, but never again |
| 13:58.30 | ralfWORK | that sucks |
| 14:00.08 | ralfWORK | we've had 2 of those horses drop off Attumen though |
| 14:00.17 | zenzelezz | nice |
| 14:00.19 | ralfWORK | one was our first kill I think |
| 14:00.41 | zenzelezz | we actually got the bird off Kael'thas last week. No idea if it's true, but word was it's only the fourth or fifth on our realm |
| 14:00.53 | ralfWORK | ahh nice |
| 14:04.14 | ralfWORK | ahh, no cape that I'd want |
| 14:04.17 | ralfWORK | but he has a sweet belt |
| 14:06.35 | Josh_Borke | yea, HKM has a nice belt |
| 14:07.05 | ralfWORK | I think I need to get the badge belt though, sadly |
| 14:07.14 | ralfWORK | I need the +hit :( |
| 14:08.33 | ralfWORK | Josh_Borke: you shadow, or some other class? |
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| 14:11.53 | Josh_Borke | ralfWORK: shadow priest |
| 14:11.57 | Josh_Borke | !c us Stormreaver Dagh |
| 14:12.07 | Josh_Borke | wtf |
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| 14:12.22 | Industrial | !c eu vashj xamth |
| 14:12.22 | Industrial | :D? |
| 14:12.41 | Josh_Borke | !fc us Stormreaver Dagh |
| 14:12.51 | Josh_Borke | (notice) Josh_Borke: Dagh, Level 70 Dwarf Priest (14/0/47). 7021 HP; 8115 Mana; 155 mana regen; 60 mp5; 106 spell crit; 75 spell hit; 928 +spell dmg/heal; 233 frost dmg (1161); 284 shadow dmg (1212); 4.82% dodge; 10 frost resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1342 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2d25m3 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2nma7f ][ Updated: Fri Mar 21 10:22:15 2008 EST ]] |
| 14:13.11 | Industrial | !fc eu vashj xamth |
| 14:13.11 | Industrial | :S |
| 14:13.20 | deltron | !c us uldum deltron |
| 14:13.49 | ralfWORK | hmm... looks like you have hit in the same slots I do |
| 14:14.25 | ralfWORK | I'm not sure how I'm going to work the 2.4 mace in |
| 14:14.29 | ralfWORK | sorry, dagger |
| 14:14.52 | ralfWORK | oh my bad, thought the one I had had +hit |
| 14:14.58 | ralfWORK | it just has +crit |
| 14:15.25 | ralfWORK | this is me http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Elune&n=Nightface |
| 14:17.10 | deltron | http://www.flickr.com/photos/del_tron/2349837338/ |
| 14:17.15 | deltron | ^^ was interesting |
| 14:17.36 | ralfWORK | oh snap |
| 14:17.38 | ralfWORK | rofl |
| 14:17.56 | Josh_Borke | yea, i've only seen rittsyn's drop once |
| 14:18.09 | ralfWORK | Josh_Borke: I only got that recently |
| 14:18.17 | ralfWORK | have seen it go to 2 other players :( |
| 14:18.44 | ralfWORK | 1 was an alt |
| 14:18.52 | ralfWORK | and 1 doesn't play her lock anymore |
| 14:18.57 | deltron | the SP's in my guild still want that with all their T6 gear and stuff |
| 14:19.00 | ralfWORK | (we don't have an alt/main policy) |
| 14:19.09 | ralfWORK | yep, it's best in slot |
| 14:19.33 | Josh_Borke | won't be come 2.4 |
| 14:19.38 | Josh_Borke | the new pvp neckpiece will be SWEET |
| 14:19.41 | ralfWORK | ohh |
| 14:19.44 | ralfWORK | fuck pvp :P |
| 14:19.46 | Josh_Borke | too bad i'm short 10k honor |
| 14:19.54 | ralfWORK | URL? |
| 14:19.56 | Josh_Borke | 36 damage, yellow slot, 34 haste |
| 14:19.57 | deltron | !c us uldum heeljin |
| 14:20.10 | ralfWORK | hmm |
| 14:20.17 | Josh_Borke | put a 12 gem in and you're up to 48 damage |
| 14:20.18 | deltron | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:20.23 | deltron | check that guy out |
| 14:20.32 | Josh_Borke | and haste, even when valued at less than 1 per point would still put it up over 51 |
| 14:20.42 | ralfWORK | gotcha |
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| 14:21.14 | ralfWORK | deltron: that's alot of damage! |
| 14:21.15 | Josh_Borke | deltron: :-( |
| 14:21.45 | deltron | our other 2 SP's aren't as geared as him |
| 14:21.50 | deltron | but they got good stuffs |
| 14:21.51 | ralfWORK | thank god |
| 14:21.52 | ralfWORK | rofl |
| 14:22.01 | deltron | !c us uldum tehferret |
| 14:22.06 | deltron | !c us uldum scary |
| 14:22.25 | ralfWORK | I'm just happy I got my signet of ancient magics |
| 14:22.47 | Stanzilla | http://tinyurl.com/3dz274 < me |
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| 14:23.34 | Stanzilla | no soulfrost on the staff yet, got it yesterday :) |
| 14:23.39 | Josh_Borke | ~failrik |
| 14:23.40 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 14:24.12 | ralfWORK | I need to plan out what to do with my next badges |
| 14:24.14 | ralfWORK | :( |
| 14:24.33 | Josh_Borke | i don't have enough to worry about that |
| 14:24.54 | ralfWORK | I'm at about 210 now. I'll get the weapon and then something else |
| 14:24.55 | ralfWORK | idk what |
| 14:24.59 | ralfWORK | maybe ring |
| 14:25.11 | ralfWORK | maybe get my Belt of Blasting made |
| 14:25.19 | ralfWORK | maybe some gems |
| 14:25.20 | ralfWORK | dunno |
| 14:25.32 | ralfWORK | tell you what though |
| 14:25.42 | ralfWORK | I can't wait till this lower city mace gets sharded |
| 14:26.13 | ralfWORK | I've had it for too long |
| 14:26.55 | Josh_Borke | oh, you should totally blow them on gems |
| 14:26.59 | Josh_Borke | +12 gems, are you kidding me? |
| 14:27.14 | ralfWORK | passed on the ZA drop few weeks back in anticipation of the 2.4 weap |
| 14:27.17 | ralfWORK | well here's the deal |
| 14:27.27 | ralfWORK | our guild JCer isn't playing anymore |
| 14:27.42 | ralfWORK | so I don't know how much people on my realm will charge to cut |
| 14:28.35 | ralfWORK | same with belt of blasting |
| 14:28.42 | ralfWORK | I don't know anyone who has the pattern |
| 14:28.42 | Josh_Borke | true |
| 14:28.50 | ralfWORK | so I don't know how much they want to rape me |
| 14:29.07 | Josh_Borke | you should start looking now :-P |
| 14:29.16 | ralfWORK | thought about it |
| 14:29.25 | ralfWORK | I'm gonna wait probably a few weeks after 2.4 |
| 14:29.37 | ralfWORK | so that they realize the market won't pay them a 500g crafting fee |
| 14:29.43 | ralfWORK | :P |
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| 14:59.03 | Adys | anyone familiar with python in here? |
| 15:01.08 | foxlit | HISSSSSSS |
| 15:02.15 | wereHamster | ~asktoask |
| 15:02.15 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 15:02.23 | wereHamster | Adys, this was for you |
| 15:02.28 | cog|work | wereHamster: why? |
| 15:02.52 | Adys | i rather not bloat the chan with offtopic stuff wereHamster |
| 15:02.54 | cog|work | it's not like he was asking if he could ask about python... :P |
| 15:03.40 | foxlit | That might've been a reasonable consideration if there was actual on-topic activity :) |
| 15:04.44 | wereHamster | exactly, it's not like there was anything else going on in this channel |
| 15:05.07 | zenzelezz | what does it matter? His asked a valid question |
| 15:05.19 | zenzelezz | *he |
| 15:05.31 | cog|work | "Anyone familiar with python in here?" vs. "Can I ask a question about python" ... it's not really the same thing imo |
| 15:05.50 | foxlit | ~ask |
| 15:05.51 | purl | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there, just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. |
| 15:06.40 | cog|work | by that rule, we should never ping someone... |
| 15:06.43 | ralfWORK | hisssssss hssssss |
| 15:07.05 | foxlit | No, by that rule you should ask the question as well as pinging someone |
| 15:07.05 | wereHamster | you ping someone specific, he asked for 'anyone' |
| 15:07.24 | foxlit | Chances are Carol also knows the answer to the question you want to ask Bob |
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| 15:07.39 | wereHamster | Adys, anyway. Go on and ask the question. I'm sure there's someone familiar with python here.. |
| 15:08.11 | Adys | I made myself a sandwich and you guys are still talking about it gee :p |
| 15:08.17 | cog|work | what if it's a long question that you'd rather not spend the time asking if it's not likely to get an answer? |
| 15:08.33 | cog|work | I just think some people in this channel are a bit too trigger-happy with the ~asktoask |
| 15:08.42 | zenzelezz | nowai |
| 15:08.48 | zenzelezz | it's the FIRST!!! of this channel |
| 15:08.57 | foxlit | The magical copy & paste features from the last decade to the rescue in that case :) |
| 15:09.08 | Seerah | just ask the question :P There are 132 people in the channel (including bots) |
| 15:09.17 | Seerah | if someone can help you, they will |
| 15:09.25 | Seerah | if no one can, you'll hear crickets :) |
| 15:09.46 | zenzelezz | sometimes I wonder if you're all trolls |
| 15:09.58 | Seerah | I'm a gnome :P |
| 15:10.15 | Adys | Im just wondering if theres an easier way than splitting or making a loop to parse strings ending with \x00 in binary data, avoiding to delimit the size of the string |
| 15:11.42 | Adys | <xss xss xss xss pss pss pss> |
| 15:11.55 | Adys | fails at imitating crickets |
| 15:12.00 | Adys | Ill just split. :P |
| 15:12.35 | ralfWORK | hmm |
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| 15:48.05 | foxlit | DebuffTypeColor: where? :) |
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| 16:19.45 | ralfWORK | christ |
| 16:19.52 | ralfWORK | why do people use bad softwar |
| 16:20.37 | zenzelezz | they don't know it's bad |
| 16:20.44 | ralfWORK | they do though |
| 16:20.49 | ralfWORK | and yet they keep using it |
| 16:20.50 | ralfWORK | :( |
| 16:21.06 | zenzelezz | which software are you talking about at the moment? |
| 16:21.13 | ralfWORK | oh any |
| 16:21.22 | ralfWORK | mostly this one we use called Creative Manager |
| 16:21.25 | ralfWORK | some web based shit |
| 16:21.31 | ralfWORK | it's basically the worst thing in the world |
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| 16:22.00 | ralfWORK | it's kinda what we use for work orders and ticketing |
| 16:22.06 | ralfWORK | it's damn horrible though |
| 16:22.28 | ralfWORK | they'd be better off distributing an excel spreadsheet of open jobs |
| 16:22.35 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 16:22.44 | zenzelezz | that bad, eh? |
| 16:22.46 | ralfWORK | yep |
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| 16:27.55 | klip | it is often because people who make decisions about software don't use the software, eg. my boss :) |
| 16:28.02 | ralfWORK | yea. that. |
| 16:28.40 | Lopeppeppy | Completely that. They say, "I can read that, it looks nice." And then we have to figure out how to make it actually do any work at all. |
| 16:29.06 | zenzelezz | we had a similar issue with one of the wannabe-bosses at my company in regards to table placement in our new offices |
| 16:29.28 | zenzelezz | he was really pushing a horrible placement where you'd get interrupted all the time by people around you (we're coders) |
| 16:29.44 | Lopeppeppy | Because he wanted an open feeling and accessibility! |
| 16:29.53 | zenzelezz | exactly |
| 16:30.04 | Lopeppeppy | I hate where my desk is, I'm right in the middle of the traffic path to the cooler/fridge/microwave/storage area. |
| 16:30.04 | zenzelezz | the best part? *He* has his own office |
| 16:30.10 | zenzelezz | and he's not even here half the week |
| 16:30.18 | ralfWORK | of course |
| 16:30.25 | zenzelezz | we just ignored everything he said and did it our way |
| 16:30.25 | ralfWORK | I had my own office once |
| 16:30.36 | ralfWORK | had a door and everything |
| 16:30.53 | ralfWORK | then the bosses wife decided she was going to "work" |
| 16:30.59 | ralfWORK | so I got chucked into the cube farm |
| 16:31.04 | ralfWORK | she came in 3 days the next week |
| 16:31.06 | ralfWORK | and never again |
| 16:31.37 | zenzelezz | headdesks sympathetically |
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| 16:31.45 | ralfWORK | I was furious |
| 16:33.06 | ralfWORK | the funny thing was |
| 16:33.07 | Lopeppeppy | I have no barrier, I took over the work study student's desk, and I can't get a thing done half the time... I hate it. |
| 16:33.17 | ralfWORK | when I got the job there |
| 16:33.22 | ralfWORK | they built that office for me |
| 16:33.30 | ralfWORK | asked me which I wanted |
| 16:33.32 | ralfWORK | etc etc |
| 16:33.36 | ralfWORK | yea. I was mad. |
| 16:35.24 | zenzelezz | it's not exactly a pretty city, but you don't get much better offices in the middle of town than we did: http://www.hovlandsdal.com:7080/~zenzelezz/DSC00003.JPG |
| 16:35.45 | ralfWORK | hey, that's coast |
| 16:36.39 | Lopeppeppy | Decent view. |
| 16:37.39 | zenzelezz | even better if you'd seen the part to the right, but the view there is so full of cranes at the construction sites that it was too ugly to include |
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| 16:46.25 | ralfWORK | wow. browsercam.com is pissing me eoff |
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| 16:51.55 | haste | ralfWORK: use browser shots instead? |
| 16:52.41 | ralfWORK | maybe |
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| 17:08.57 | AnduinLothar | Anyone avail to log onto PTR to test something? |
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| 17:14.02 | kd3 | sure, one sec |
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| 17:16.09 | Lopeppeppy | bundles up an old ZIP drive for the trash... |
| 17:16.23 | |pez| | waha, there's a demonstration going on at one of the worlds largest computerparties! |
| 17:16.25 | |pez| | go us! |
| 17:17.42 | AnduinLothar | lol zip drives |
| 17:17.52 | AnduinLothar | recycle it! |
| 17:18.06 | AnduinLothar | all that plastic and alumninum |
| 17:18.52 | AnduinLothar | anyone else avail on PTR? i need 2 i think |
| 17:21.01 | wereHamster | Tuck |
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| 17:21.49 | AnduinLothar | Whisper Anduinlothar when you get in |
| 17:21.57 | AnduinLothar | on pve, i dunno if anythign else is up |
| 17:22.06 | Vangual | us or eu? faction? |
| 17:22.14 | AnduinLothar | us, alliance |
| 17:22.35 | wereHamster | sorry, I'm eu :( |
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| 17:27.12 | zenzelezz | I really don't understand how people can just grind experience instead of questing... I can barely push myself through the Nagrand Nesingwary quests |
| 17:27.30 | Lopeppeppy | Some people just don't want to bother with details. |
| 17:27.58 | |pez| | Mmm, details, I eat them for lunch |
| 17:28.54 | zenzelezz | so what's TG like this year |pez|? Last time I went was 04 IIRC |
| 17:29.09 | |pez| | I was there ate 04§ |
| 17:29.11 | |pez| | ! |
| 17:29.23 | Wobin | goddamn nesingwary nagrand quests |
| 17:29.29 | Wobin | I refuse to do them on a nonskinner |
| 17:29.37 | zenzelezz | I was there 00-04, but after that my friends got too dispersed, so was no fun going anymore |
| 17:29.53 | |pez| | I don't really get a awesomelike impression of it, since I'm inside working, away from the participants, all night. :P |
| 17:30.19 | zenzelezz | surely you still have spare time? I was in the tech crew in 00, and got plenty of time to do stuff |
| 17:30.34 | |pez| | I work in crewcare. |
| 17:30.39 | |pez| | which has enough stuff to do. :) |
| 17:30.54 | zenzelezz | oh, you're one of the good gals |
| 17:31.01 | |pez| | I try. |
| 17:31.18 | clad|office | would anyone mind setting me up with a quick mysql database that I can connect to to test this driver? |
| 17:31.41 | Cide | clad|office: try connecting to cide.ws |
| 17:31.51 | Cide | I'm not sure if it's available externally though |
| 17:32.05 | kd3 | improperly configured at / |
| 17:32.13 | kd3 | Error while importing URLconf 'eventsystem.frontend.urls': No module named urls |
| 17:32.14 | Cide | not via http :P |
| 17:32.20 | clad|office | gah i apparently dont' even have a mysql client on this machine |
| 17:32.21 | clad|office | bugger =( |
| 17:32.28 | clad|office | back to the drawing board |
| 17:32.46 | clad|office | that's easilys olved |
| 17:33.33 | clad|office | Cide: looks like its not externally available |
| 17:33.48 | Cide | what about now? I just opened the port |
| 17:34.00 | clad|office | yep |
| 17:34.02 | clad|office | access denied. |
| 17:34.04 | clad|office | :P |
| 17:34.05 | clad|office | naturally |
| 17:34.09 | Cide | want a user? |
| 17:34.15 | clad|office | yeah if you don't mind |
| 17:34.17 | clad|office | just PM me the info |
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| 17:40.02 | wereHamster | --> print(not nil) |
| 17:40.11 | AnduinLothar | true |
| 17:40.23 | Cide | ohmygawdz! AnduinLothar turned into a bot |
| 17:41.37 | kd3 | still looking for comments: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2856221186&sid=1&pageNo=4#68 |
| 17:42.46 | Cide | I'd prefer if you move the CTMod link up to the top of the page, and make it bold and HUGE |
| 17:42.54 | Wobin | kd3: The eloquent prose must -naturally- be lorem ipsum |
| 17:43.28 | AnduinLothar | what no cosmso link? |
| 17:43.44 | AnduinLothar | why's my cosmo not workign!? |
| 17:43.45 | dylanm | You'll rue the day. |
| 17:45.31 | Cide | kd3: looks good to me |
| 17:48.07 | dylanm | Very helpful. |
| 17:48.11 | dylanm | I mean, idiots won't read it. |
| 17:48.28 | AnduinLothar | kd3: ping |
| 17:48.31 | kd3 | of course not. but it's written so we can yell at people for not reading it |
| 17:48.32 | kd3 | pong |
| 17:48.38 | AnduinLothar | need you to get a debuff |
| 17:48.53 | Cide | kd3: that's like the WHOLE POINT of stickies :) |
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| 17:49.45 | Lopeppeppy | I love stickies to yell at other people... |
| 17:50.54 | Atriace | If <Button> can have the child element <Frames>, and <Frames> can have the child element <Button> could you theoretically nest <Button> <Frame> <Button> <Frame> etc... ? |
| 17:54.04 | nevcairiel | sure |
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| 17:57.40 | ScytheBlade1 | MentalPower: pong |
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| 18:02.46 | Atriace | From the information I've garnerd so far, I know that virtual objects are predefined and not actually created. I've been using them in a limited fashion for a few things, but now I want to use them for my unit frames. Is there a way to define arguments for a virtual object? I can't seem to find the whole rundown of how to use "virtual" on wowwiki. |
| 18:03.32 | foxlit | <Element virtual="true"> |
| 18:04.29 | Atriace | Yes, I know that. But can you set arguments for it? |
| 18:04.44 | foxlit | Rephrase that |
| 18:05.30 | Atriace | Say you create a unit frame, contains 30 objects and you have everything positioned in it correctly. Now you want to replicate it across for 5 party members and 3 targets. How do you define the background texture for each virtual object? |
| 18:05.54 | Atriace | Or frame that uses the virtual object, as it were. |
| 18:06.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Think of a "virtual" as a template |
| 18:06.31 | ScytheBlade1 | You set the background on the vitual, and then when you create the frame, specify the "inherit" to be equal to the "virtual" |
| 18:06.43 | ScytheBlade1 | You inherit the virtual, and all of the "settings" attached to it |
| 18:07.17 | Atriace | ergo... no method for modifying particulars within the virtual for each frame that uses it. |
| 18:07.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Er, not sure if I read that correctly, but wrong |
| 18:07.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Once you "inherit" the virtual ("apply the settings from the template") |
| 18:08.06 | ScytheBlade1 | You're free to change anything on the real frame as you please |
| 18:08.28 | zenzelezz | in the same way you modify normal frames |
| 18:10.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Let's say you have virtual 'a' and real 'b'. 'b' inherits 'a'. 'b' is still a frame, just like any other |
| 18:10.11 | ScytheBlade1 | You can change any properties on it that you would any other frame |
| 18:10.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Because it is, in fact, any other frame. :) |
| 18:11.16 | Atriace | But, let's assume virtual 'a' has 5 layers and 10 textures inside each layer. How would you define a change in texture for one of those layers within frame 'b'? |
| 18:11.35 | foxlit | You'd apply it after creating the frame b |
| 18:11.46 | ScytheBlade1 | The same way you could as if 'a' was a real frame, just applied to 'b' |
| 18:11.53 | ScytheBlade1 | ... what foxlit said ;) |
| 18:11.55 | foxlit | Anything you define within an inherited declaration completely overrides the virtual template |
| 18:12.07 | foxlit | (for that element) |
| 18:12.14 | Atriace | So it would have to be named the same in order to overide the texture? |
| 18:12.40 | foxlit | Hm, actually, I am not sure :( |
| 18:13.15 | Atriace | Because you run into the issue of what to name things if 5 other frames are using the same virtual object and renaming the same texture to something different. >_< |
| 18:13.41 | Atriace | doh... of course you could use $parent I suppose. |
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| 18:20.41 | Rayne | :| |
| 18:24.10 | MentalPower | ScytheBlade1: sorry to bug you about this again, but you're missing the latest PTR patch "WoW-0.4.0.8063-to-0.4.0.8089-enUS-patch.exe" and your "WoW-0.4.0.8031-to-0.4.0.8049-enUS-patch.exe" is incomplete (theres a bunch of null chars everywhere suggesting that the torrent never completed) |
| 18:31.55 | ScytheBlade1 | MentalPower: hmm, weird. Does it pass the signature verification? |
| 18:32.03 | MentalPower | nop |
| 18:32.11 | MentalPower | there isin't even a sig verification |
| 18:32.13 | Sixen_ | SBO, can you update the mirror with the latest PTR Patch? |
| 18:32.14 | Sixen_ | :/ |
| 18:32.26 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 18:32.34 | ScytheBlade1 | In a moment, sure, porting an alt around |
| 18:32.46 | Sixen_ | =p |
| 18:32.52 | MentalPower | my windows gives me the properties screen of a batch file |
| 18:33.02 | MentalPower | but UAC still asks me to run it |
| 18:33.12 | MentalPower | and even if I do allow it, it does nothing |
| 18:33.16 | MentalPower | not even an error message |
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| 18:33.39 | deltron | disable UAC! |
| 18:33.43 | MentalPower | why |
| 18:33.49 | MentalPower | its saved my ass twice already |
| 18:33.59 | deltron | lol |
| 18:34.02 | deltron | how so? |
| 18:34.40 | MentalPower | I accidentally clicked a prog that I didn't want to, and UAC asked me to confirm |
| 18:34.48 | MentalPower | that was one |
| 18:34.58 | MentalPower | the other was that it saved me from installing Shareaza4 |
| 18:35.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, 8031-8049 definitely did not upload properly |
| 18:35.12 | MentalPower | since Shareaza4 has a signature |
| 18:35.20 | MentalPower | and the real shareaza does not |
| 18:36.03 | MentalPower | being a cheap OSS project and all |
| 18:37.10 | deltron | nothing wrong with OSS software |
| 18:38.32 | MentalPower | did I say that? |
| 18:38.51 | ScytheBlade1 | What's an addon that will let you move anything anywhere? |
| 18:38.51 | deltron | nah |
| 18:38.55 | ScytheBlade1 | MoveAnywhere still it? |
| 18:39.10 | MentalPower | I'm just saying that most OSS projects can't afford the $400/year fee for a Code signing certificate |
| 18:39.43 | MentalPower | so when Shareaza4 was pushed to my PC, and I saw the UAC prompt with a wierd developer in the certificate, I knew it was not legit |
| 18:39.57 | ScytheBlade1 | MentalPower: irony, seeing as the requirement for UAC not to yell at you is "a certificate" not "a certificate from a trusted CA" |
| 18:40.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Anyone can create a code signing cert and use it just fine. |
| 18:40.39 | MentalPower | hmm... I didn't know it didn't check the certification path |
| 18:40.49 | ScytheBlade1 | What's an addon that will let you move a frame anywhere? |
| 18:40.52 | art3mis | thats actually a vista bug |
| 18:40.56 | MentalPower | FluidFrames |
| 18:40.57 | ScytheBlade1 | I have someone from another server bugging me in-game -.- |
| 18:41.08 | art3mis | lots of people are running into that issue with legit certs for rpcoverhttp and exchange |
| 18:41.08 | MentalPower | FluidFrames from cosmos |
| 18:41.13 | MentalPower | I'm sure there are others |
| 18:41.26 | art3mis | moveanything! |
| 18:41.32 | ScytheBlade1 | MentalPower: ty |
| 18:41.37 | ScytheBlade1 | art3mis: ty but you're late ;) |
| 18:41.41 | MentalPower | lol |
| 18:41.42 | art3mis | uh oh |
| 18:41.47 | art3mis | i hope im not pregnant |
| 18:41.50 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 18:41.51 | MentalPower | art3mis: explain |
| 18:41.58 | ScytheBlade1 | So in Hyjal last night, after a boss |
| 18:42.06 | deltron | MentalPower: boys have a penis, girls have a vagina |
| 18:42.10 | ScytheBlade1 | One of the paladins did "/me sleeps with Allish. Oops, now she's pregnant!" |
| 18:42.24 | ScytheBlade1 | I was like, "what" |
| 18:42.26 | ralfWORK | whaaa? |
| 18:42.30 | MentalPower | deltron: that was random |
| 18:42.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, exactly |
| 18:42.42 | art3mis | MentalPower: if im remember right the certs get installed but the get installed in a temp location for each user, the only way to install and use the directory was to manually download the cert and walk through the cert installation and choose the default directory |
| 18:43.02 | art3mis | i think there was a fix and that sp1 corrects it |
| 18:43.32 | art3mis | manully download and install as administrator, not as a user with admin privs |
| 18:43.34 | MentalPower | meaning that UAC now checks the certificate against the installed root certs? |
| 18:43.52 | MentalPower | in SP1 |
| 18:44.19 | MentalPower | or am I misinterpreting |
| 18:44.32 | art3mis | well, if say you were a user, whow as using rpcoverhttp(as example) you could download the cert and install it, but it would install as a per user instance, so when outlook fired upand checked it only checked the main directory and not the sub peruser one |
| 18:44.39 | ScytheBlade1 | I should have been more precise. To load a driver in x64 Vista, all that the driver needs, is "signed." This can be a self-signed cert, and that will work. It will notify you that the cert coems from an untrusted source, however. |
| 18:44.55 | art3mis | now with sp1/hotfix it behaves like XP did in a central cert store |
| 18:45.26 | art3mis | so while it's still per user it still actually acess the central default location for the certs and uses them accordinglly |
| 18:45.37 | art3mis | i may be explaining it badly though |
| 18:45.42 | Nechckn | it is centralized now art3mis? very cool! hadn't seen that change |
| 18:46.05 | art3mis | yeah many many outlook->exchange(rpcoverhttp) people pushed for that |
| 18:46.19 | art3mis | it was an excahnge admin nightmare |
| 18:46.28 | kd3 | AnduinLothar, that's why I'm afk. going to fake-log in a minute |
| 18:46.35 | Nechckn | awesome.. I ran into the issue you were talking about actually ehhehe |
| 18:46.36 | AnduinLothar | he ported |
| 18:46.41 | AnduinLothar | but he had a pet.. |
| 18:46.52 | AnduinLothar | and i needed 2 people int he grp |
| 18:47.10 | MentalPower | ScytheBlade1: thats also good to know |
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| 18:47.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Why people think they need to fork over $400 a year to a CA company is beyond me. :) |
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| 18:47.47 | MentalPower | cause its better for the user |
| 18:47.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Debatable. |
| 18:48.07 | MentalPower | IIRC an untrusted cert is shown with a big red windows |
| 18:48.12 | MentalPower | window* |
| 18:48.14 | art3mis | ScytheBlade1: same reason people fork over 100's for terminal services licences ;P |
| 18:48.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Which you can then click "accept" and "accept as valid in the future" |
| 18:48.27 | Vangual | fork over more and it's even green! :P |
| 18:48.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Tada! |
| 18:48.33 | art3mis | actually untrusted certs popup with aDONT USE ME until you install it |
| 18:48.46 | AnduinLothar | Anyone got a pet class on PTR aliance us they can log in? |
| 18:48.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Right |
| 18:49.00 | art3mis | to make it install it for websites and such in ie just like the red cert warning thingy near the urlbar |
| 18:49.06 | MentalPower | maybe the OSS comunity should create its own root cert authority |
| 18:49.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Maybe they HAVE! |
| 18:49.19 | ScytheBlade1 | :o |
| 18:49.26 | MentalPower | oh? |
| 18:49.26 | Vangual | cacert has been working on that for ages |
| 18:49.26 | art3mis | laugh |
| 18:49.32 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.cacert.org/ |
| 18:49.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Indeed |
| 18:49.49 | MentalPower | never heard about it till now |
| 18:50.01 | Vangual | but even the bugzilla entry for mozilla to include them is... weird |
| 18:50.14 | art3mis | Calling all system administrators in the CAcert Community! We have need of help in running services like web, svn, wiki. Please contact evaldo@cacert.org if you can help. |
| 18:50.22 | art3mis | ^^ dont fill me with confidence ;P |
| 18:50.23 | ScytheBlade1 | ... heh |
| 18:50.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Ouch |
| 18:50.56 | art3mis | surely one of them owns a chimpanze to do that stuff ;) |
| 18:51.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Anywho. If you want to throw a cert on your software, make a self-signed one, and provide a link to it on the website. |
| 18:52.07 | ScytheBlade1 | If the user downloads and runs your software, should they "trust" your cert or not is irrelevant :) |
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| 18:53.46 | Vangual | isn't that a bit useless as long as you also use your website to distribute your code? |
| 18:54.33 | ScytheBlade1 | No, because the user can install the cert and not have the "LAWL UNTRUSTED SOFTWARE" dialog pop up should you release a new version. |
| 18:55.07 | Vangual | break into website, put up malicious code signed by yourself, put up your new cert on the same website and some social engineering message that all users are supposed to get the newly updated cert, win? |
| 18:55.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Then it's game over. *shrug* |
| 18:56.03 | Vangual | very very uf of the internet's citizens understand the concept of signatures even remotely |
| 18:56.09 | Vangual | very few* |
| 18:56.41 | art3mis | and i dont know a single one that when instlaling someone doesnt click continue anyway even with unsign or outdated ones |
| 18:56.56 | Vangual | and even if their os pop's up some warnings they just click them all away until they get what they want (the software they just downloaded runs) |
| 18:57.25 | art3mis | checks and balances only work if people inquire about them ;P |
| 18:57.47 | Vangual | ie7's extremely annoying selfsigned warning is a step into theright direction but even on that one people will condition themselves to click it away |
| 18:58.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah. Which is why I created my own root CA, and called it good. ;) |
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| 19:12.30 | Josh_Borke | ~emulate Josh_Borke |
| 19:12.30 | purl | ACTION hugs Cairenn |
| 19:12.46 | Cairenn | hugs Josh_Borke |
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| 19:13.32 | kd3 | anyone in /dev/null mind logging on for a few? |
| 19:14.40 | Josh_Borke | what is /dev/null ? (besides the place where things go to die) |
| 19:14.47 | kd3 | dev guild on the PTR |
| 19:16.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, sec |
| 19:17.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Patching... |
| 19:18.12 | Lopeppeppy | i'm patching too, kd3. |
| 19:18.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Logging in ;D |
| 19:18.30 | Lopeppeppy | Beeatch. *grin* |
| 19:18.33 | ScytheBlade1 | And I'm in. |
| 19:18.49 | ScytheBlade1 | .... to the TTR |
| 19:18.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Whoops |
| 19:19.08 | Josh_Borke | pwned! |
| 19:19.20 | ScytheBlade1 | There we go :P |
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| 19:24.32 | Guillotine | Afternoon all! |
| 19:24.48 | Mep | hello, this a channel for discussing WoW UI stuff? |
| 19:24.58 | Josh_Borke | it's a lounge |
| 19:24.59 | Cide | yup |
| 19:25.01 | Guillotine | Pretty much |
| 19:25.11 | Mep | exellent |
| 19:25.26 | Cide | excellent* |
| 19:25.27 | Cide | sorry. |
| 19:25.35 | Cide | I can't help myself |
| 19:25.53 | Mep | I was wondering if anyone could point me to the correct addon taht enables you to place a colored bannor on the bottom of the screen that can have buttons/chat/other stuff on top? |
| 19:26.23 | Josh_Borke | eepanels or teh yet to be released kgpanels |
| 19:26.42 | Cide | what's with the random-two-letters - panels name? |
| 19:27.01 | Josh_Borke | you tell me ctmod maker |
| 19:27.11 | Cide | Cide - TS |
| 19:27.14 | Cide | not very random :P |
| 19:27.42 | Josh_Borke | KaGaro? |
| 19:27.50 | Josh_Borke | why are you asking me?! GEEZE! |
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| 19:28.05 | Josh_Borke | woops |
| 19:28.16 | Josh_Borke | wtf is dtc |
| 19:29.45 | nevcairiel | and ee was evil elvis :P |
| 19:29.49 | nevcairiel | or something like that |
| 19:29.56 | nevcairiel | at least the guys name |
| 19:30.08 | Cide | still stupid |
| 19:30.41 | Josh_Borke | you're stupid! |
| 19:30.54 | Cide | YOUR stupid |
| 19:31.08 | Josh_Borke | my stupid what? |
| 19:31.11 | nevcairiel | all addon names that somehow re-use the authors name are stupid |
| 19:31.18 | Guillotine | Troof |
| 19:31.21 | Cide | your stupid.. STUPID |
| 19:31.24 | Guillotine | all my addons are just very bad puns |
| 19:31.29 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 19:31.37 | Guillotine | "Automootic" "TasteTheNaimbow" ect. |
| 19:32.10 | Guillotine | If an AddOn's name is such a bad pun you throw up, you know its probably mine |
| 19:33.04 | Lopeppeppy | I made it in, whee! |
| 19:34.00 | nevcairiel | do we have a EU guild? :P |
| 19:34.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: slacker! |
| 19:34.20 | Guillotine | nev: not that I know of |
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| 19:36.10 | Lopeppeppy | Afternoon, |Jelly|/ |
| 19:36.21 | Lopeppeppy | pounce-huggles Jelly with a Peep for Easter! |
| 19:41.27 | Cairenn | basic wow mechanics question: vendors with limited quantity, refresh a global constant or does it vary by vendor/item? |
| 19:42.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Varies |
| 19:43.45 | Josh_Borke | varies by vendor |
| 19:45.01 | ralfWORK | I camped the vendor is southshore |
| 19:45.06 | ralfWORK | for the fire protection pot |
| 19:45.11 | ralfWORK | I did that for WEEKS |
| 19:45.16 | ralfWORK | man I made alota gold |
| 19:45.43 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 19:45.47 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 19:45.54 | ralfWORK | it was awesome |
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| 19:48.54 | kd3 | Guillotine, poke. is "Numberonebeaner" related to you on the wiki? |
| 19:50.38 | Guillotine | No |
| 19:50.46 | Guillotine | I'm 'Guillotine' on the wiki |
| 19:51.33 | kd3 | hm... http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Contributions/Numberonebeaner |
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| 19:58.12 | Guillotine | hmm |
| 19:58.59 | Guillotine | Looks like they just went through giving VERY short descriptions for cosmos addons |
| 19:59.20 | nevcairiel | haha yeah i was just goin to say.. hey that pages are virtually empty =P |
| 19:59.46 | Guillotine | My pages are more like http://www.wowwiki.com/HelpLib |
| 19:59.55 | Guillotine | I'm a troll, but a good type of troll! |
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| 20:17.44 | Amarande | Pop quiz! |
| 20:17.55 | Amarande | True or false: It is possible to dismount your flying mount in the Twisting Nether and live |
| 20:18.12 | kd3 | you'll fall to your doom |
| 20:18.15 | kd3 | have done it before |
| 20:18.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Same |
| 20:18.32 | Amarande | kd3: actually, the answer is oddly enough, 'true' |
| 20:18.33 | Vangual | if you dismount right above the flying shipwreck in twisting nether sure |
| 20:18.42 | Fisker- | hacks kd3 |
| 20:18.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Amarande: druids do not count ;) |
| 20:19.01 | Amarande | ScytheBlade1: there's a big rock not far west of Manaforge Ara, Netherstorm |
| 20:19.09 | Amarande | the west edge of the rock counts as Twisting Nether and can be stood on |
| 20:19.16 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 20:23.09 | Rayne | The new Atlas is built on Ace3, correct? |
| 20:23.21 | Cide | does it matter? |
| 20:23.41 | Guillotine | Sure. If its not on Ace3 its inefficient |
| 20:23.45 | Cide | oh, right |
| 20:23.46 | Guillotine | duh |
| 20:23.54 | Guillotine | Actually, I think its Rock |
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| 20:23.57 | Rayne | Because my wife doesnt have Ace3, and has the new atlas and its giving her a library error |
| 20:24.18 | Cide | what does the error say? |
| 20:24.27 | Amarande | heh, there's hardly any major addons I use that aren't Ace |
| 20:24.33 | Cide | Amarande: why not? |
| 20:24.35 | Rayne | Hang on she just put ace3 in, ill see if it comes back |
| 20:25.03 | Amarande | Only ones I can think of offhand that aren't, are Auctioneer, X-Perl, Mobinfo2, and some little thing I use to manage the location of the game tooltip |
| 20:25.18 | Cide | I couldn't care less |
| 20:25.26 | Cide | what I do care about is why it matters, however |
| 20:25.51 | Rayne | God I hate atlas... |
| 20:26.01 | Rayne | Dont even know why she uses it |
| 20:26.04 | Amarande | Cide: mainly, that I prefer ace addons because they tend to work together in ways that independent non-ace addons often don't |
| 20:26.09 | Amarande | a lot less need to worry about conflicts |
| 20:26.12 | Cide | bullshit |
| 20:26.15 | kd3 | ^ |
| 20:26.21 | Amarande | and easier to keep updated |
| 20:26.30 | Cide | that's a valid reason |
| 20:26.33 | Cide | actually it isn't |
| 20:26.38 | Amarande | though not quite as easy as it *could* be, since I can never seem to use the Ace Updater :S |
| 20:26.49 | Cide | ok |
| 20:26.57 | Cide | if you don't use the updater, that argument is also bull |
| 20:27.10 | Amarande | Well, there is also the fact that Ace addons tend to integrate better with FuBar than others do |
| 20:27.25 | kd3 | fubar isn't ace... >.>; |
| 20:27.30 | Rayne | Im not extreamly fond of the updater. I have Custom textures and fonts in my UI so when I use it, it ofter re-writes the LUA and I have to add it back in. :< |
| 20:27.36 | Amarande | kd3: actually, FuBar *is* Ace, last I checked :S |
| 20:27.44 | Guillotine | Rock I believe |
| 20:27.47 | kd3 | ^ |
| 20:27.48 | Stanzilla | rock |
| 20:28.24 | Amarande | well, in any case, I rarely find an Ace addon that doesn't happily move its control button over to the FuBar. |
| 20:28.25 | Vangual | Rayne: i just made private addons that inject my stuff manually for that problem |
| 20:28.37 | Amarande | OTOH, non-Ace addons have a tendency to take my minimap real estate instead. :| |
| 20:29.05 | kd3 | meh. anything that puts up a minimap button should have an option to turn it off... the only thing still attached to my minimap is the tracking button |
| 20:29.13 | Guillotine | Same here |
| 20:29.18 | Guillotine | Minimap Button Frame ftw also |
| 20:29.22 | Rayne | I actually have my tracking button turned off |
| 20:29.30 | Amarande | I don't even have a tracking button anymore ... I use Elk Buff Bars which makes it show as a buff instead |
| 20:29.32 | Rayne | I just use that option through EBB |
| 20:34.52 | Mep | anyone know why stimpleminimap wont move for me? it isn't locked and none of the options (skin/radius/scale) are doing anything to it |
| 20:35.23 | ralfWORK | you know hat makes me sick |
| 20:35.33 | ralfWORK | when EDITOR is not set to /usr/bin/vim |
| 20:36.26 | Mep | figured it out |
| 20:36.34 | Rayne | Oh how cool. |
| 20:36.48 | Rayne | She downloads Ace3, Atlas still gives the error. |
| 20:36.59 | Rayne | She turns off Atlas, Bartender gives the same error. |
| 20:37.09 | Rayne | -_- |
| 20:37.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Rayne: welcome to the Ace project! |
| 20:37.21 | nevcairiel | what error? |
| 20:37.35 | ScytheBlade1 | In all seriousness I've had that happen before, no clue why. I wound up nuking all of my addons, and reinstalling them one by one. |
| 20:38.11 | nevcairiel | Its one addon that breaks it, and due to the embeded libs it looks like coming from other addons |
| 20:38.22 | Rayne | Im just typing it from her screen to mine so here goes |
| 20:38.57 | cog|work | Do not reply! http://blog.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2008/03/they_told_you_not_to_reply.html |
| 20:39.49 | ScytheBlade1 | lol, awesome |
| 20:39.51 | Rayne | AceLibrary: Bad Argument#2 to <filepath\acelibrary\acelibrary.lua:129> (string expected, got nil) |
| 20:39.56 | ScytheBlade1 | I really want to own test.com |
| 20:40.23 | nevcairiel | Rayne: thats the recent Prat, iirc |
| 20:40.50 | Rayne | nevcairiel: ? |
| 20:40.59 | nevcairiel | causing the error |
| 20:41.02 | nevcairiel | try disabling Prat |
| 20:41.04 | nevcairiel | and try again |
| 20:41.23 | Nechckn | cog|work "Sometimes they'll even send pictures of their grill, too" Classic! |
| 20:41.26 | Rayne | Shes trying |
| 20:43.06 | Rayne | Yup, went away |
| 20:43.14 | Cairenn | "constantly threatened with lawsuits from companies who for one reason or another have a difficult time grasping why he is in possession of their internal documents and e-mails." |
| 20:43.25 | Cairenn | people r dumb |
| 20:43.32 | MentalPower | Companies embarrassed by having their e-mails posted online can get him to pull the entries from his blog for a small payment. The normal fee to be removed from the site is proof of a donation to an animal protective league or humane society. So far, Faliszek says his blog has raised roughly $5,000 for local dog pounds. |
| 20:43.52 | nevcairiel | Rayne: she could downgrade to http://files.wowace.com/Prat/Prat-r63496.5.zip until the error is resolved |
| 20:44.07 | Rayne | Yeah im giving her my version, I havent updated it yet |
| 20:46.48 | Nechckn | and no matter what... the senders should alway have return addy be *something* at their company- that is an awesome find cog|work =) |
| 20:47.10 | cog|work | would've been awesomer if it wasn't on slashdot :P |
| 20:47.49 | Nechckn | ah.. haven't looked yet today.. I there for s/awesome/cool |
| 20:48.00 | ScytheBlade1 | checks slashdot |
| 20:48.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, hey, look! 10 more mod points! |
| 20:48.11 | ScytheBlade1 | boggles |
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| 20:55.30 | Rayne | god im just so happy we downed Alar last night @_@ |
| 20:56.49 | ralfWORK | grats :) |
| 20:59.27 | kd3 | crap... I've already hit the 5k char limit in my 2.4 post... this is going to be interesting |
| 21:00.42 | Sixen_ | =o |
| 21:00.48 | Sixen_ | Did you reserve the 2nd post? |
| 21:01.11 | kd3 | it's at the tail end of the 2.3 thread... will probably start the 2.4 thread once I finish talking about the combat log and filters |
| 21:01.16 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2856221186&postId=53751724589&sid=1#68 |
| 21:02.08 | sag_ich_nicht | kd3: you managed to produce that bug i told you about on the PTR? |
| 21:02.13 | Sixen_ | Yeah, but won't you put that at the top? |
| 21:02.22 | Sixen_ | On the 1st,2nd and 3rd posts? |
| 21:02.31 | kd3 | yeah. I'll reserve the first 3 posts like always |
| 21:02.33 | kd3 | sag, one sec |
| 21:02.37 | kd3 | ports to shat |
| 21:03.36 | kd3 | k, how do I repro? |
| 21:05.21 | Nechckn | I know that many of the authors are pinched by Blizz's changes to the combat log.. but boy, that thing, default, is pretty sweet |
| 21:05.31 | sag_ich_nicht | open gbank, switch to tab 2, rightclick the gbank again in the worldframe |
| 21:05.55 | sag_ich_nicht | in live, the withdrawal counter of tab 2 gets changed to the one of tab 1 when doing this |
| 21:06.15 | sag_ich_nicht | (maybe have to withdraw some stuff first and put it back in so the counters are different from each other) |
| 21:07.19 | kd3 | looks like it's fixed |
| 21:08.07 | sag_ich_nicht | good |
| 21:08.12 | sag_ich_nicht | no bug report needed then :) |
| 21:08.16 | sag_ich_nicht | thanks |
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| 21:18.05 | Amarande | say, does it still work to enslave elite quest demons and use them till they're almost dead, then turn around and dismiss+finish off to get the quest? |
| 21:20.25 | Guillotine | yes |
| 21:20.49 | Amarande | hmm, time to see if Culuthas is enslavable, I guess :) |
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| 21:23.00 | Amarande | though even that might be overkill, depending ... [70G2] Full Triangle, locks seem to be able to solo most 2-man quests that I know of |
| 21:23.42 | Amarande | I never could get that servo thingy on the other hand, but that's more to do with that a lot of my DPS and nearly all my survival means don't work on the arcane annihilators |
| 21:24.47 | Rayne | What was that addon that monitors memory spikes? |
| 21:25.50 | Amarande | Immune. Bah. |
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| 21:40.19 | Atriace | What do you get when you mix a Leprechaun with a Gnome? |
| 21:40.38 | Atriace | A Lepregnome! |
| 21:40.39 | Lopeppeppy | A mint smoothie? |
| 21:40.46 | ScytheBlade1 | :( |
| 21:40.53 | Atriace | Boo, I tried. |
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| 21:49.43 | Shirik|AFK | ~x jp en shikata ga nai |
| 21:49.49 | Shirik|AFK | ... |
| 21:49.55 | Shirik|AFK | ~x ni en shikata ga nai |
| 21:50.02 | Shirik|AFK | oh right, no romanji |
| 21:52.33 | Shirik | batrick: pong? |
| 21:56.33 | Guillotine | Shirik: sure, I'll play |
| 21:56.34 | Guillotine | | |
| 21:56.36 | Guillotine | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:56.59 | Antiarc | I keep thinking about writing a game to pass downtime in raids. |
| 21:57.03 | Cide | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:57.07 | Antiarc | But first I need a) an idea, and b) time |
| 21:57.45 | Guillotine | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:58.09 | nevcairiel | Antiarc: we just play texas hold'em |
| 21:59.26 | Amarande | Antiarc: /roll, low man jumps off of Tempest Keep? |
| 21:59.54 | Antiarc | Hehe. |
| 22:00.00 | Antiarc | Grrrr. |
| 22:00.05 | Antiarc | I'm writing a Facebook app. |
| 22:00.11 | Industrial | eep |
| 22:00.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: die |
| 22:00.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: die |
| 22:00.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: die |
| 22:00.18 | Antiarc | ScytheBlade1: An actually useful one. |
| 22:00.21 | Antiarc | And Facebook keeps requesting my URL 9 times per page hit. |
| 22:00.23 | ScytheBlade1 | You're a liar and you know that |
| 22:00.30 | Antiarc | Which would be fine if it was a fast page. |
| 22:00.39 | Lopeppeppy | Facebook is always slow |
| 22:00.51 | Antiarc | But 9 * 0.8 sec does not make for a snappy user experience. |
| 22:01.42 | Antiarc | Different IPs so I guess it's caching the page in its cluster or something? I dunno. Really sloppy :/ |
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| 22:05.34 | MentalPower | Antiarc: /join #Facebook |
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| 22:29.00 | Shirik|Ecole | hihih |
| 22:29.04 | Shirik|Ecole | did you all miss me? :D |
| 22:29.22 | Lopeppeppy | I did! I pined and pined and then I was an elm tree for a while. |
| 22:29.49 | Shirik|Ecole | I don't get it >.> |
| 22:29.51 | Shirik|Ecole | ~dict pine |
| 22:29.54 | zenzelezz | pine tree |
| 22:29.56 | zenzelezz | you fool |
| 22:30.05 | Shirik|Ecole | ~dict 2 pine |
| 22:30.16 | Shirik|Ecole | you inflicted pain? |
| 22:30.25 | zenzelezz | it's a word play |
| 22:30.40 | zenzelezz | how can you be good at math and not understand it? |
| 22:30.49 | Shirik|Ecole | Lopeppeppy: what are you; I know you're a gnom |
| 22:30.51 | Shirik|Ecole | warlock? |
| 22:30.53 | Shirik|Ecole | mage? |
| 22:31.27 | Lopeppeppy | Peppy is a rogue. *grin* |
| 22:31.41 | Lopeppeppy | PINE is not ELM. |
| 22:31.59 | Shirik|Ecole | ah |
| 22:32.00 | Shirik|Ecole | stabby stab |
| 22:32.10 | Shirik|Ecole | my 315 resilience will crush you like a bug! |
| 22:32.11 | Lopeppeppy | Stabby stab puns when overtired. |
| 22:32.17 | Shirik|Ecole | except you're already about that size so it won't really matter |
| 22:32.29 | Lopeppeppy | Size matters for a lot of things, darlin'. |
| 22:35.45 | zenzelezz | notice how suspiciously quiet he became when you said that |
| 22:36.33 | Shirik|Ecole | trying to figure out how I'm going to install a 50MB program when I only have 76KB of space left on my network drive... |
| 22:37.06 | Amarande | Lopeppeppy: indeed ... like trying to sneak around the camps on top of Thousand Needles while you have a voidwalker out :| |
| 22:38.13 | Shirik|Ecole | but Lopeppeppy |
| 22:38.19 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm a priest; my heals are very big |
| 22:38.38 | Shirik|Ecole | pop quiz, what server is Lopeppeppy from? |
| 22:38.45 | zenzelezz | so you're one of the guys in robes? |
| 22:38.46 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, darlin', they all say that. |
| 22:38.58 | Shirik|Ecole | hell no I'm a chick in a robe |
| 22:39.16 | Lopeppeppy | Do you know my home server, zenzelezz? |
| 22:39.58 | zenzelezz | home server, no; but I think it was Argent Dawn... that or Aerie Peak. I get those confused |
| 22:40.23 | Atriace | Well... I'm still stuck on this player dropdown menu issue. If anyone has some expertise in the matter, I've posted my code @ http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5461887893&sid=1 |
| 22:40.48 | Atriace | It "should" be working (IMHO).... but it's not. :( |
| 22:40.50 | Shirik|Ecole | !c us aerie peak Lopeppeppy |
| 22:40.59 | Shirik|Ecole | !c us argent dawn Lopeppeppy |
| 22:41.07 | Shirik|Ecole | there we go |
| 22:41.13 | Shirik|Ecole | zenzelezz wins |
| 22:41.23 | Shirik|Ecole | !vs us drenden kimina us argent dawn Lopeppeppy |
| 22:41.59 | Shirik|Ecole | any time now mr. bot |
| 22:42.05 | Shirik|Ecole | !vs us drenden kimina us argent dawn Lopeppeppy |
| 22:42.20 | Shirik|Ecole | fine then, screw you too WoWLuaircBot |
| 22:42.29 | Lopeppeppy | Yes, Peppy was born on Argent Dawn. She's no longer my "main" character, but I love her best of all |
| 22:42.40 | Shirik|Ecole | she's a gnome... |
| 22:42.43 | Shirik|Ecole | how can you love her at all |
| 22:43.29 | Shirik|Ecole | There are two specific groups of people I go for first in pvp |
| 22:43.31 | Lopeppeppy | Carefully, Shirik. *wink* |
| 22:43.45 | Shirik|Ecole | First are night elf females because they do that flip thingy whenever they die |
| 22:43.56 | Shirik|Ecole | Second are gnomes because I just want to stab them in the face |
| 22:44.35 | zenzelezz | the thing that ticks me off most about the Nagrand Nesingwary quests is not the fact that you need *30* of each, but that almost every single mob type has a bleed |
| 22:44.36 | Amarande | DIE GNOMES |
| 22:44.53 | Shirik|Ecole | what's wrong with bleeds? |
| 22:44.57 | Shirik|Ecole | casts Renew. |
| 22:45.06 | zenzelezz | I'm on a rogue this time around |
| 22:45.10 | zenzelezz | low health, no heals |
| 22:45.16 | Shirik|Ecole | cos |
| 22:45.23 | zenzelezz | not that high level |
| 22:45.31 | Shirik|Ecole | ah, I dunno when you get it |
| 22:45.32 | Shirik|Ecole | 68? |
| 22:45.37 | zenzelezz | something like that |
| 22:46.02 | zenzelezz | with the hunter it was easy; Mend Pet pew pew pew Mend Pet... with the warrior it was more a matter of eating once every 15 minutes when I got low on health |
| 22:46.16 | zenzelezz | but this rogue? I'm spending a fortune on food, since bandages must wait for the debuff to wear off |
| 22:46.47 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah.... can you cook the meats from the animals? |
| 22:47.28 | zenzelezz | only on my warrior; my cooking stagnated at ~130 for some reason |
| 22:47.49 | Lopeppeppy | So send meats to the warrior, and get them back for grinding foods |
| 22:48.18 | zenzelezz | probably will =) So far I still have some smoked talbuk |
| 22:50.56 | Cide | (unrelated) in the US, it's illegal to drive while drunk, correct? |
| 22:51.01 | kd3 | yes |
| 22:51.02 | Amarande | Cide: If caught |
| 22:51.07 | kd3 | 0.08% BAC |
| 22:51.16 | Cide | Amarande: wrong |
| 22:51.21 | Amarande | actually, just about every law has to be qualified with the premise "if caught" |
| 22:51.33 | Cide | is it illegal to fall asleep at the wheel, or being too tired to properly drive? |
| 22:51.48 | Lopeppeppy | Not...exactly, but they do have laws to cover when that happens. |
| 22:51.49 | Cide | Amarande: it's still illegal - you just won't get punished unless caught |
| 22:51.55 | kd3 | you'd get charged with failure to maintain lane or something similar |
| 22:51.58 | Lopeppeppy | "Failure to stay in lane", etc. |
| 22:52.27 | Amarande | Yeah, it does occur to me, aren't the important things that happen during DUI things that could be handled through prosecuting the actual actions? |
| 22:52.58 | Shirik|Ecole | kd3: 0.02% in Virginia while under 21 :) |
| 22:52.59 | Lopeppeppy | They just *ALSO* prosecute the root cause in that case. |
| 22:53.01 | Amarande | That would be like arresting people for logging onto a filesharing system, rather than for uploading or downloading from same :| |
| 22:53.10 | kd3 | heh, that's high... it's 0.01 in georgia |
| 22:53.21 | Shirik|Ecole | wtf |
| 22:53.27 | Shirik|Ecole | that's like, accidentally swallowing mouthwash |
| 22:53.28 | zenzelezz | Shirik|Ecole: I thought you weren't allowed to drink under 21 anyway? |
| 22:53.43 | Shirik|Ecole | yes, that's why it's very bad :P |
| 22:53.55 | Lopeppeppy | Theyr'e just adding an extra layer of harsh if you're underage. |
| 22:53.56 | kd3 | you're not, but if you get pulled over and blow anything over a 0.01/2 you'll get arrested for DUI and minor in posession too |
| 22:55.16 | Amarande | meh, sometimes I think we make it too hard to die in the modern world |
| 22:55.29 | Amarande | that's probably the real root of overpopulation issues |
| 22:55.36 | Amarande | it's kinda harsh, but probably true |
| 22:55.41 | Amarande | back in the day, people actually, well ... died heh |
| 22:56.10 | zenzelezz | people died to disease, not drunk driving |
| 22:56.16 | Amarande | zenzelezz: horses |
| 22:57.07 | Amarande | anyway, back in the day, you had to really take care of yourself and have a little luck to live to be old |
| 22:57.10 | zenzelezz | I believe horses were a very small part of keeping the population low |
| 22:57.41 | Amarande | these days, life is ez mode, any old scrub who doesn't take the slightest care of themselves is kept alive by various aspects of the system long enough to see the next two or three generations |
| 22:58.02 | zenzelezz | I'm not even sure I care to go past 60 |
| 22:58.11 | Shirik|Ecole | Amarande: That's also because the intelligent people can't get dates :P |
| 22:58.20 | zenzelezz | (view heavily influenced by stupid 60+ers whining about living conditions) |
| 22:58.22 | Amarande | Shirik: that, too |
| 22:58.23 | Shirik|Ecole | And thus terminates that line of evolution |
| 22:58.36 | Amarande | EZ mode life tends to cause human intelligence to devolve :S |
| 23:00.20 | Cide | Shirik|Ecole: lies |
| 23:01.15 | Shirik|Ecole | Does anyone here know the language Processing? |
| 23:02.22 | Shirik|Ecole | (aka the Arduino language) |
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| 23:07.09 | Atriace | I think I'm going to go outside and chew on some rocks... |
| 23:07.19 | Saint-N | damn druids |
| 23:07.27 | Atriace | It'd be easier than getting these menus to work. :( |
| 23:09.22 | Cide | most likely |
| 23:09.28 | Saint-N | shirik |
| 23:09.34 | Cide | chewing on a rock isn't really difficult |
| 23:09.37 | Saint-N | can you find out what iptv device yer dad has? |
| 23:09.53 | Shirik|Ecole | my grandfather? |
| 23:10.00 | Shirik|Ecole | yeah I can |
| 23:10.05 | Shirik|Ecole | not instantly though |
| 23:10.30 | Saint-N | essentially I need a cablin->devicemaster---throughnetwork----recieverdevice->tv with control of the original cable connection |
| 23:10.42 | Atriace | Mind taking it a look (if it's not that hard)? :) |
| 23:10.52 | Saint-N | shore, whenever you get a chance |
| 23:11.08 | Saint-N | I can't find any appliances that do the above flow that don't involve a pc on both ends |
| 23:11.13 | Atriace | Code & test mod included: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5461887893&sid=1 |
| 23:11.54 | Saint-N | oh that shore was to shirik not you, I suxxor at lua and all other programming languages ;P |
| 23:12.20 | dylanm | Heyyy shadowpriest h5 |
| 23:12.20 | Atriace | lol, yeah I know. Likewise, I was talking to someone else. |
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| 23:14.45 | Atriace | Hey, it's Mental |
| 23:15.58 | Lopeppeppy | Yes, yes he is. |
| 23:16.15 | ScytheBlade1 | MentalPower: what was the bugged patch again? I'll do that now |
| 23:16.18 | ScytheBlade1 | 8031-? |
| 23:16.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Or another one? |
| 23:17.23 | MentalPower | checks |
| 23:17.40 | MentalPower | WoW-0.4.0.8031-to-0.4.0.8049-enUS-patch.exe |
| 23:17.43 | MentalPower | ScytheBlade1: ^^^^ |
| 23:18.21 | MentalPower | also, you're missing "WoW-0.4.0.8063-to-0.4.0.8089-enUS-patch.exe" |
| 23:18.26 | ScytheBlade1 | That's weird. It might be my torrent file. |
| 23:18.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, I've got that locally, I just need to upload it |
| 23:18.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Are you stuck on 8031? |
| 23:19.12 | MentalPower | nah, I got it now |
| 23:19.28 | enum | question, setting up a frame with tabs. The tabs are showing up, but, if the selected tab is lined up with the border, the unselected tabs are too low ( a couple of pixels of empty space below the border ) |
| 23:19.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah, kk |
| 23:19.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, let me repatch and we'll see if I can get 8031 fixed |
| 23:19.53 | enum | I was using the character frame as a guide on this, and it just doesn't seem to line up |
| 23:19.59 | MentalPower | I have it, if you want it |
| 23:20.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Could you send me the .torrent? |
| 23:20.44 | MentalPower | erm... I nuked it :( |
| 23:20.47 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 23:21.02 | ScytheBlade1 | .... |
| 23:21.02 | MentalPower | all I have is the final file |
| 23:21.03 | ScytheBlade1 | ........... |
| 23:21.12 | ScytheBlade1 | SOMEONE DELETED THE BLIZZAD DOWNLOADER PAGE ON WIKIPEDIA |
| 23:21.14 | ScytheBlade1 | BLASHPEMY |
| 23:21.18 | MentalPower | lol |
| 23:22.21 | Lopeppeppy | oh noes |
| 23:23.00 | zenzelezz | I find myself forgetting my rogue doesn't have Last Stand |
| 23:23.02 | MentalPower | anyone fluent in apache? |
| 23:23.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Somewhat |
| 23:23.40 | AnduinLothar | fluent enough to get the right modules loaded |
| 23:23.40 | MentalPower | I'm trying to do dir listings |
| 23:23.40 | Fin | yes |
| 23:23.45 | MentalPower | but its not being nice to me |
| 23:23.46 | Fin | DirectoryIndex |
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| 23:23.54 | MentalPower | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:23.59 | ScytheBlade1 | <Directory /etc/whatever> Options +Indexes </Directory> |
| 23:24.02 | AnduinLothar | kd3: ping |
| 23:24.07 | kd3 | pong |
| 23:24.16 | Fin | or <Location> |
| 23:24.16 | MentalPower | does a VirtualHost not work? |
| 23:24.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Er, no |
| 23:24.25 | AnduinLothar | you logged n razer thorn? |
| 23:24.33 | MentalPower | you serious? |
| 23:24.36 | ScytheBlade1 | As the Options paramater isn't valid in the VirtualHost block |
| 23:24.38 | Fin | you have to put a <Directory> or <Location> directive inside the <VirtualHost> directive |
| 23:24.45 | Fin | or |
| 23:24.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Indeed |
| 23:25.04 | Fin | you can do Options AuthConfig and stick the Options +Indexes in a .htaccess file |
| 23:25.34 | ScytheBlade1 | In either case, it won't work in a VirtualHost directive |
| 23:25.46 | MentalPower | can I do <Directory />? |
| 23:25.52 | Fin | no |
| 23:25.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Um |
| 23:25.56 | Fin | oh |
| 23:25.56 | Fin | yes |
| 23:26.04 | Fin | you can do <Location /> as well |
| 23:26.07 | MentalPower | or Location for that matter |
| 23:26.12 | MentalPower | which is better in this case? |
| 23:26.19 | Fin | and it does work inside a VirtualHost directive, just not on its own |
| 23:26.22 | Fin | shrugs |
| 23:26.30 | ScytheBlade1 | <Directory /path/to/filesystem> Options +Indexes </Directory> |
| 23:26.37 | Fin | up to you, directory works on filesystem paths, location works on URL paths |
| 23:26.52 | Fin | directory / is very very inefficient thogh |
| 23:26.53 | Fin | +u |
| 23:26.54 | NightHawkTheSane | haha http://www.flickr.com/photos/spring_peeper/2347044385/ |
| 23:27.16 | MentalPower | yay!!! |
| 23:27.21 | MentalPower | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:27.28 | MentalPower | ScytheBlade1: ^^^^ |
| 23:27.38 | MentalPower | still uploading PTRs |
| 23:27.39 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 23:27.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Nice |
| 23:28.03 | ScytheBlade1 | lol @ hosting the ENTIRE BASE CLIENT |
| 23:28.03 | MentalPower | too bad I don't have the .torrents |
| 23:28.10 | MentalPower | hey, I use it |
| 23:28.15 | MentalPower | beleive it or not |
| 23:28.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Over HTTP? |
| 23:28.26 | MentalPower | SMB in my case |
| 23:28.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Like, commonly? |
| 23:28.29 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 23:28.33 | Cide | gogopowerrangers |
| 23:28.38 | ScytheBlade1 | You re-install WoW that much? |
| 23:28.50 | MentalPower | I format my PC way too much |
| 23:28.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Apparently |
| 23:28.59 | MentalPower | I should start using virtuals more often |
| 23:29.10 | nevcairiel | thats why i have multiple partitions |
| 23:29.17 | nevcairiel | one for windows that i can format |
| 23:29.23 | nevcairiel | one for data that stays :p |
| 23:29.39 | MentalPower | I'd do that, if my main HDD was not 60GB |
| 23:29.49 | MentalPower | err.. 80G |
| 23:29.54 | Cide | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EBKOybfZqI |
| 23:29.58 | MentalPower | friggin laptop |
| 23:34.10 | *** join/#wowi-lounge JoshBorke (n=Josh@WoWUIDev/WoWInterface/LegoBlock/joshborke) |
| 23:34.38 | ScytheBlade1 | downloads all of the PTR patches again |
| 23:34.51 | AnduinLothar | restart in 7min btw |
| 23:38.49 | Cide | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EBKOybfZqI |
| 23:38.52 | Cide | deserves to be relinked |
| 23:40.22 | ScytheBlade1 | I love how the first patch I download is the last one to finish. :/ |
| 23:41.18 | Amarande | So, 2.4 is definitely Tuesday? |
| 23:41.31 | ScytheBlade1 | At the rate that they're going, yes |
| 23:41.46 | ScytheBlade1 | They may decide at the last minute to delay it another week |
| 23:42.11 | Lopeppeppy | Delay has been known to happen before. |
| 23:45.21 | AnduinLothar | lol world server is down, but i have a char in BT lol |
| 23:45.45 | AnduinLothar | noes it wants to telleport me out |
| 23:45.50 | Lopeppeppy | Noooo! |
| 23:45.59 | Lopeppeppy | Grab onto a statue, don't let them beam you up. |
| 23:46.20 | AnduinLothar | oh good world server's back |
| 23:53.13 | *** join/#wowi-lounge dylanm (n=dylanm@c-98-209-116-84.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 23:59.57 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Lopeppeppy (n=Lopeppep@cpe-72-230-38-163.nycap.res.rr.com) |
