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| 00:01.11 | art3mis | can you run postgres AND mysql at the same time or do they try and use the same ports? |
| 00:01.33 | Cide | I'm sure you can set the ports they use.. |
| 00:01.52 | Guillotine | omg |
| 00:01.56 | Guillotine | Cairenn answered a Lua question |
| 00:02.04 | Guillotine | I told you, she knows Lua! |
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| 00:03.17 | art3mis | Cide: any other incompats you can think of? |
| 00:03.27 | Cide | nope |
| 00:03.31 | art3mis | danke |
| 00:03.43 | Cide | the only other thing would be 'why?' |
| 00:04.21 | art3mis | curiosity mostly |
| 00:04.36 | art3mis | i use mysql for web crap |
| 00:04.46 | art3mis | but i wanna try a few things with postgres that ive been reading lately |
| 00:04.50 | Cairenn | denies having any information regarding the possibility of such knowledge |
| 00:07.41 | klip | there should be no problem with running mysql and postgresql. I'm sure they use different default ports |
| 00:10.28 | foxlit | considering their ports are usually file sockets |
| 00:13.50 | ScytheBlade1 | art3mis: different ports, different protocol, different storage techniques, different SQL (in)compatabilities.. |
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| 00:19.22 | Aaroja | Hey guys I'm going to bed now |
| 00:19.37 | Aaroja | see you later (because now is tomorrow^^) |
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| 00:31.57 | cloudwolf | SO who wants to help me lol |
| 00:32.50 | cloudwolf | nevcairiel you here? |
| 00:33.39 | klip | cloudwolf: what with? :) |
| 00:34.11 | Guillotine | I love those ads for antibacterial whatever where they show an electromagnetic microscope picture of pet dander/dust mites/bacteria. ANYTHING looks disturbing under one of those. A friggin soap molecule would disgust people. |
| 00:35.03 | Nechckn | My favorites are the "dermatitites" that live under your toenails! |
| 00:35.16 | Nechckn | the cartoon versions, of course =) |
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| 00:44.25 | cloudwolf | sry klip |
| 00:44.27 | cloudwolf | didnt see you answer |
| 00:44.50 | cloudwolf | btw i just queryd you klip |
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| 00:47.33 | Shirik | apparently I have nearly 10k hp |
| 00:47.39 | Shirik | and I was worried about not hitting 9k raid buffed |
| 00:48.27 | cloudwolf | i have 5.2k unbuffed :( |
| 00:48.32 | cloudwolf | but im just a 62 rogue so yeah... |
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| 00:54.32 | batrick | Shirik: u got time to finish that game? |
| 00:54.41 | Shirik | in raid atm |
| 00:56.07 | batrick | ah ok |
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| 01:08.26 | NightHawkTheSane | heh, http://www.heyokay.com/thanks/ |
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| 01:34.23 | Rayne | yawns |
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| 01:35.15 | Rayne | So my raid leaders in a really bad mood, and I dont feel like running SSC cause of it. Anyone else feel my pain? |
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| 02:07.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm, they're pushing a new build |
| 02:07.32 | ScytheBlade1 | I have to wonder if they bumped the date because of that |
| 02:09.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Also, rofl @ http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5285248255&sid=1#2 |
| 02:15.53 | klip | haha :) |
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| 02:18.40 | Guillotine | playing brawl with ex and a guildy that has a crush in her = lose. Both only going for me -_- |
| 02:19.17 | Shirik | lol |
| 02:19.20 | Shirik | wounds like epic win to me |
| 02:19.58 | Guillotine | She insists he WAS going for her, she just dodged... every move |
| 02:20.17 | dylanm | I believe it. |
| 02:20.41 | Guillotine | lol |
| 02:21.10 | JoshBorke | plausible- |
| 02:24.26 | NightHawkTheSane | Guillotine: gg.. :P |
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| 02:36.01 | cloudwolf | welcome back guillotine |
| 02:36.08 | cloudwolf | im aparantly the most novice at this ever :D |
| 02:42.03 | cloudwolf | im tempted to just give up |
| 02:43.53 | cloudwolf | any one hterE? |
| 02:43.57 | cloudwolf | *there |
| 02:44.03 | Iriel | where? |
| 02:44.12 | JoshBorke | netherstorm |
| 02:44.43 | cloudwolf | here lol |
| 02:44.50 | Shirik | .... |
| 02:44.56 | Shirik | 3 spyglasses of the hidden fleet dropped today |
| 02:44.59 | Shirik | in the same run |
| 02:45.15 | JoshBorke | is that an item? |
| 02:45.25 | Shirik | yes |
| 02:45.37 | Shirik | bop epic random |
| 02:46.11 | ScytheBlade1 | We've had two at once |
| 02:46.30 | ScytheBlade1 | That was a fun night |
| 02:48.19 | [dRaCo] | we get one almost every night in SSC |
| 02:48.22 | [dRaCo] | for month |
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| 02:49.48 | cloudwolf | any one here good at addon making? XD im having so much trouble |
| 02:50.04 | Cide | nah, nobody |
| 02:50.20 | cloudwolf | plz dont be sarcastic... |
| 02:50.28 | Cide | that was irony |
| 02:50.36 | cloudwolf | what ever... |
| 02:50.47 | Cide | if you realized that it was irony, I think that answers your question |
| 02:51.13 | cloudwolf | well im looking for some one to help me is the reason i asked |
| 02:51.15 | MentalPower | well considering what this channel is... |
| 02:51.23 | MentalPower | ãsktoask |
| 02:51.27 | MentalPower | ~asktoask |
| 02:51.27 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 02:51.34 | Cide | do realize that your attitude of "what ever" doesn't really help, especially when my comment was intended as quite light-hearted |
| 02:51.51 | cloudwolf | ? |
| 02:52.10 | |Jelly| | What they're saying is STFU and ask your question/present your issue. |
| 02:52.19 | Cide | you're the one asking for help, not me - I would try being more polite, myself |
| 02:52.35 | cloudwolf | Im sorry but ive been trying to do this for about 3 hours with no succsess so im getting a bit pissed. I would like some one to one on one walk me through how to create a working slash command |
| 02:52.48 | Cide | not my problem :) |
| 02:53.03 | Cide | there are great tutorials on wowwiki for that stuff, I think |
| 02:53.05 | Iriel | http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Create_a_Slash_Command |
| 02:53.11 | Cide | what Iriel said |
| 02:53.11 | cloudwolf | looking at that one now |
| 02:53.15 | |Jelly| | Grr@Iriel |
| 02:53.18 | cloudwolf | doesn't and doesn't help me |
| 02:53.23 | cloudwolf | ive done what it says and it doesnt work |
| 02:53.44 | Iriel | Did you keep it fairly simple, just to get something working? |
| 02:53.46 | cloudwolf | ive treid it both ways As an onload function and after a function |
| 02:53.48 | JoshBorke | then you did something wrong :-D |
| 02:53.48 | Cide | I just verified that the procedure described there is the correct one |
| 02:53.48 | |Jelly| | Pastey your code, being the next step. |
| 02:54.12 | cloudwolf | i know i did something wrong but because i dont know what i did wrong doesn't help me fix it |
| 02:54.15 | Cide | so yep, JoshBorke is likely right in this case |
| 02:54.21 | Iriel | One very common mistake is for folks to create some immensely complicated thing, and try and inject a slash command into that, and have it not work. |
| 02:54.28 | Iriel | Yeah, pastey your code and post the pastey links here |
| 02:55.05 | art3mis | ya knows whats an even more common mistake? |
| 02:55.25 | art3mis | stareing at youredito closing it giving the file anme and expecting it to do soemthing ;P |
| 02:55.33 | art3mis | your editor |
| 02:55.56 | cloudwolf | ive gotten so anoyed it wasnt even complex that i kinda deleted it ima try the tutorial again and if it doesnt work then ile pasty code but what i was simply doing was trying to get a slash cmd register and do the default_chat_frame:addmessage("msg") and it wasnt workin |
| 02:56.06 | Cide | hi |
| 02:56.20 | Cide | paste your code so we can at least do something to help you |
| 02:56.29 | cloudwolf | as i said dont ahve the code right this min |
| 02:56.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Can't help you too much :) |
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| 02:57.38 | Iriel | Just copy the first two blocks of code from the wiki page into a .lua file |
| 02:57.41 | Iriel | Set up a .toc to load it |
| 02:58.01 | Iriel | Start up a fresh wow, check your addon is actually listted and active |
| 02:58.01 | Iriel | then give it a shot |
| 02:58.27 | cloudwolf | question do i need anything in an xml file if all im doing is textbased aka no gui |
| 02:58.57 | Iriel | you do not |
| 02:59.00 | cloudwolf | ok |
| 02:59.14 | cloudwolf | do i remove the xml from the dependencies then? |
| 02:59.18 | cloudwolf | in the toc? |
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| 02:59.25 | cloudwolf | or does that still stay |
| 02:59.36 | Cairenn | remove it |
| 02:59.45 | Iriel | From 'dependencies' ?? |
| 02:59.51 | Iriel | I wonder if your problems are your .toc ? |
| 03:00.13 | cloudwolf | it could be right now my toc is this |
| 03:00.17 | cloudwolf | ## Interface: 20300 |
| 03:00.17 | cloudwolf | ## Title: basic slash command |
| 03:00.17 | cloudwolf | ## Notes: slashcommand |
| 03:00.17 | cloudwolf | ## Dependencies: |
| 03:00.17 | cloudwolf | firstslashcmd.lua |
| 03:00.31 | cloudwolf | just removed the xml dependencie |
| 03:00.33 | Iriel | Ah, the ## Dependencies: line means "this has no dependencies" |
| 03:00.38 | Iriel | It's not a title for what comes next |
| 03:00.53 | Iriel | If it HAD a dependency (i.e. depended on another AddOn), that'd come after the header |
| 03:01.00 | Iriel | i.e. ## Dependencies: DevTools |
| 03:01.05 | cloudwolf | ah k |
| 03:01.19 | cloudwolf | and is the place for firstslashcmd.lua just fine? |
| 03:01.24 | cloudwolf | and do i need the xml back there? |
| 03:01.25 | cloudwolf | again? |
| 03:01.26 | Iriel | yes |
| 03:01.29 | Iriel | no |
| 03:01.31 | cloudwolf | ok |
| 03:01.39 | cloudwolf | could that have been my problem? |
| 03:01.45 | cloudwolf | is that i had the .xml in there? |
| 03:01.54 | Iriel | unlikely, depends if the .xml file existed etc. |
| 03:02.00 | cloudwolf | it did |
| 03:02.02 | cloudwolf | but it was blank |
| 03:03.08 | Shirik | The missing <?xml line might cause a problem? Dunno |
| 03:03.17 | Shirik | But if you don't have anything in the xml it really shouldn't be there |
| 03:03.27 | Iriel | Still, I doubt it'd have stopped the .lua from trying to load |
| 03:03.34 | Cide | I was about to say that |
| 03:03.34 | Shirik | I agree |
| 03:03.50 | Shirik | But then again |
| 03:03.52 | cloudwolf | well im basicaly 100% new to addon creation |
| 03:03.57 | Shirik | double clicking on my program on my robot shouldn't cause it to shutdown either |
| 03:04.00 | Shirik | lol |
| 03:04.03 | cloudwolf | ive done the hello world tutorial by blizzard got it to work |
| 03:04.12 | cloudwolf | couldn't get thier advanced one to work |
| 03:04.55 | Atriace | Could someone explain the nature of SetPortraitToTexture? Based on the short desc on wowwiki, it would seem to add a circular mask to your intended texture, but it seems to do nothing for me. |
| 03:05.00 | Shirik | Exception : java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Report could not be read |
| 03:05.01 | Shirik | wheee |
| 03:05.05 | Shirik | I broke WWS |
| 03:05.23 | Atriace | Actually, I take that back, it makes my texture dissapear completely. |
| 03:05.44 | Shirik | Anyone else get an exception when viewing this? http://wowwebstats.com/kbvnjx1c6145k |
| 03:05.57 | [dRaCo] | yeah |
| 03:06.00 | Atriace | Yup |
| 03:06.10 | Cide | no, actually |
| 03:06.13 | Shirik | also, who uses IllegalStateException for "Could not create repository subdirectory" |
| 03:06.22 | Cide | appears to work fine for me |
| 03:06.27 | Shirik | really? |
| 03:06.29 | Cide | yes |
| 03:06.34 | Shirik | :/ |
| 03:06.36 | Shirik | wtf did I do |
| 03:06.51 | Atriace | What browser are you using, Cide? |
| 03:06.54 | Cide | I was going to reply "no" just for fun |
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| 03:06.57 | Cide | but it actually works |
| 03:07.05 | Cide | FF2 |
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| 03:07.14 | Shirik | none of my browsers (FF3 / IE) ilke it |
| 03:07.25 | cloudwolf | iriel i queryd you |
| 03:07.32 | Shirik | that's a java exception, it shouldn't be impacted by browser |
| 03:07.45 | Cide | works fine in IE7 for me too |
| 03:07.55 | Shirik | wtf |
| 03:07.56 | Shirik | stop lying |
| 03:08.02 | Cide | I could screenshot it :P |
| 03:08.10 | Shirik | can you tell me where I was on heal >< |
| 03:08.12 | Shirik | specifically overheal |
| 03:08.12 | cloudwolf | iriel? you there? |
| 03:08.20 | Iriel | hm? |
| 03:08.35 | Cide | www.cide.ws/media/wws.jpg |
| 03:08.47 | Atriace | showoff |
| 03:08.47 | Shirik | wtb heal charts... |
| 03:08.55 | Shirik | yay I wasn't last in damage! |
| 03:08.56 | JoshBorke | obviously cide doesn't listen |
| 03:09.01 | Shirik | I had 7 dps |
| 03:09.07 | JoshBorke | lol shirik |
| 03:09.15 | Cide | www.cide.ws/media/wwsheal.jpg |
| 03:09.17 | cloudwolf | iriel i sent you a message in query plz look and reply there |
| 03:09.27 | Shirik | I don't have CoH anymore it's sad :( |
| 03:09.33 | Shirik | But it looks like I came in 3rd which I can accept |
| 03:09.39 | Shirik | 4th |
| 03:09.39 | Iriel | I dont understand what you're asking... |
| 03:09.39 | Shirik | close enough |
| 03:09.47 | JoshBorke | best to ask in public |
| 03:09.50 | cloudwolf | does the code look correct |
| 03:09.50 | Iriel | I didn't see you say anything on the channel |
| 03:09.54 | Iriel | what code? |
| 03:09.59 | cloudwolf | its in query |
| 03:10.01 | cloudwolf | function slashcmd_OnLoad() |
| 03:10.01 | cloudwolf | SlashCmdList["SLASHCMD"] = Msgtochat; |
| 03:10.01 | cloudwolf | SLASH_SLASHCMD = "/slashcmd" |
| 03:10.01 | cloudwolf | end |
| 03:10.01 | cloudwolf | function Msgtochat (); |
| 03:10.02 | cloudwolf | DEFAUL_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("worked") |
| 03:10.04 | cloudwolf | end |
| 03:10.06 | cloudwolf | thats the code tho |
| 03:10.06 | Cide | ... |
| 03:10.13 | Cide | that's not valid lua |
| 03:10.21 | cloudwolf | the boxes are just enters |
| 03:10.27 | cloudwolf | err tabs |
| 03:10.33 | Cide | they come through as enters here |
| 03:10.39 | Cide | which means that you hasted like 10 lines of code |
| 03:10.44 | Cide | pasted* |
| 03:11.01 | Iriel | Why would you do them in that order? |
| 03:11.11 | cloudwolf | because im a noob at this |
| 03:11.14 | Cide | function Msgtochat (); |
| 03:11.15 | cloudwolf | simple answer? |
| 03:11.17 | Cide | is not valid |
| 03:11.33 | Iriel | I specifically said 'put the first 2 blocks of code from the wiki tutorial into a lua file' |
| 03:11.40 | Iriel | You're making it too complicated |
| 03:11.51 | cloudwolf | this? |
| 03:11.51 | cloudwolf | function MyScript_Command(cmd) |
| 03:11.51 | cloudwolf | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:11.51 | cloudwolf | end |
| 03:11.57 | Iriel | That, and the block after it |
| 03:12.02 | Iriel | no _onload function nonsense |
| 03:12.08 | Shirik | Cide, wtb heal meters! |
| 03:12.11 | Iriel | (That only helps if you know what you're doing and need it) |
| 03:12.11 | Shirik | specifically overheal! |
| 03:12.14 | Cide | what the hell |
| 03:12.17 | Cide | http://www.cide.ws/media/wwsheal.jpg |
| 03:12.19 | Cide | I already pasted it |
| 03:12.29 | ScytheBlade1 | You pasted the DPS portion |
| 03:12.30 | Shirik | <3 |
| 03:12.34 | Cide | and that |
| 03:12.35 | Cide | shortly after |
| 03:12.37 | Atriace | Nah, he posted both. :) |
| 03:12.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Seeing as I'm healing High King atm |
| 03:12.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Eh I'm only paying so much attention ;) |
| 03:13.02 | Shirik | Well I beat out Rohaun |
| 03:13.05 | Shirik | That's the important part |
| 03:13.07 | Shirik | Gotta run! |
| 03:13.11 | Shirik|AFK | thanks Cide |
| 03:13.14 | Cide | anytime |
| 03:13.23 | Rayne | @_@ |
| 03:13.28 | Cide | let me know when your browser imagines server errors next time |
| 03:13.37 | Atriace | Sooo... anyone familiar with SetPortraitToTexture? :) |
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| 03:14.02 | Iriel | Atriace: Only insofar as I think I wrote a wiki page on it once |
| 03:14.12 | Atriace | My implementation of it just gives me a blank texture: http://pastey.net/84114 |
| 03:14.23 | cloudwolf | iriel well pasting it worked but it doesnt mean i know how to recreate it myself and why it works |
| 03:14.35 | Atriace | Really? I'd like to see it, Iriel. There was nothing linked in the API listing for it. |
| 03:14.47 | Iriel | Atriace: It used to bee spelled wrong |
| 03:14.53 | Iriel | Atriace: Try SetPortaitToTexture |
| 03:15.00 | Atriace | Will do. |
| 03:15.14 | Iriel | cloudwolf: If you've got a working example, it's GENERALLY easier to incrementally add things, bit by bit |
| 03:15.25 | Rayne | Im curious to see if I can make a Grid addon that shows ready check on the frames... |
| 03:15.29 | Iriel | and the chance of the added version still working is much greater |
| 03:16.02 | cloudwolf | mmmk... |
| 03:16.22 | cloudwolf | doesn't mean i can recreate anything im doing with out finding the tutorial again to copy the source code |
| 03:16.25 | cloudwolf | and i gtg |
| 03:16.36 | Atriace | I bet you can, Rayne. |
| 03:17.08 | Atriace | "attempt to call global 'SetPortaitToTexture' (a nil value) |
| 03:17.13 | Atriace | guess not. : / |
| 03:17.21 | Iriel | Atriace: Basically it takes 2 parameters, the name of a Texture object, and a Texture path |
| 03:17.32 | Iriel | You misunderstood me |
| 03:17.51 | Iriel | The function is NOW called SetPortraitToTexture, but I think it used to be called SetPortaitToTexture, or a similar typo. |
| 03:18.04 | Iriel | etPortraitToTexture("OpenMailFrameIcon", stationeryIcon); |
| 03:18.17 | Atriace | Ah, I see. So I had it right the first time. I'm tracking so far. |
| 03:18.18 | Iriel | There's a call (missing its first letter because I cut and pasted poorly) from the live code |
| 03:18.57 | Atriace | Might I be obfuscating my end result by the fact that I'm cropping the texture with SetTextCoord? |
| 03:19.32 | Iriel | I suspect that may ruin the result completely |
| 03:19.36 | Iriel | But I could be wrong. |
| 03:19.58 | Iriel | I dont think you can do stuff to the Texture afterwards |
| 03:20.42 | Atriace | It would seem my best shot at getting circular-masked class icons would be to re-export them myself. |
| 03:21.38 | Iriel | Or export unmasked ones |
| 03:21.43 | Iriel | and then use the function on those |
| 03:22.14 | Atriace | Though with only 1 icon to a texture, for that approach. |
| 03:22.40 | Iriel | yes |
| 03:23.15 | Iriel | I take it 2.4 doesn't have chat codes for the class icons |
| 03:23.40 | Atriace | No idea. |
| 03:23.49 | Cide | I don't think so |
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| 03:23.59 | Atriace | You work at Blizzard, don't you Iriel? |
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| 03:24.17 | Iriel | no |
| 03:24.21 | Atriace | Shocker. |
| 03:24.35 | Atriace | What do you do then? |
| 03:25.20 | MentalPower | Atriace: archaeologist has round class icons |
| 03:25.53 | Iriel | Atriace: Software design and systems architecture, and other such things |
| 03:26.07 | Lukian | Atriace, Iriel fixes blizzard's code and they steal it :D |
| 03:26.24 | Iriel | Atriace: eCommerce, etc. |
| 03:26.42 | Atriace | lol |
| 03:26.56 | Atriace | I'm curiosity is satiated. |
| 03:28.04 | Atriace | MentalPower: apparently archaeologist takes the same approach. Included are circular icon targas. |
| 03:28.28 | MentalPower | yup |
| 03:28.38 | MentalPower | I was saying you can prolly use theirs |
| 03:29.11 | Sixen | PTR is has been revived and the PTR/TTR are both up now... If anyone cares. |
| 03:29.13 | Atriace | ugh.... and taint my ethics.... I could never.... |
| 03:29.24 | MentalPower | Sixen: WOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 03:29.31 | MentalPower | Atriace: huh? |
| 03:29.38 | Sixen | =] |
| 03:29.54 | Sixen | brb |
| 03:29.54 | MentalPower | Atriace: taint ethics how? |
| 03:29.58 | Atriace | I hate the idea of using other's material in my own work. Especially if I can reproduce it myself. |
| 03:30.14 | MentalPower | code-reuse not your thing? |
| 03:30.27 | Atriace | Well, I'm an Artist at heart, so... |
| 03:30.36 | Atriace | Code is more fluid. |
| 03:30.51 | MentalPower | ah, fair nuf |
| 03:31.09 | MentalPower | tho theirs are nice, taken from J!nx IIRC |
| 03:32.15 | Atriace | Kinda low res, though. |
| 03:32.26 | MentalPower | there are two versions |
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| 03:32.47 | Atriace | Oh, didn't see that. |
| 03:33.04 | Atriace | Those are nice |
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| 03:47.28 | Rayne | |Jelly|: Wake up! |
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| 04:32.29 | art3mis | wooo! |
| 04:32.37 | art3mis | its the martin luther king boondocks! |
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| 04:51.07 | Sixen | ~seen kd3 |
| 04:51.10 | purl | kd3 is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowhead #wowace #wowwiki, last said: 'crap. need to find a green shirt before I head out today'. |
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| 04:58.16 | art3mis | ScytheBlade1: ping |
| 04:58.22 | ScytheBlade1 | art3mis: pong |
| 05:00.37 | ScytheBlade1 | art3mis: pong |
| 05:00.38 | ScytheBlade1 | ;) |
| 05:00.41 | art3mis | hey |
| 05:00.52 | art3mis | you ever setup web based virt? |
| 05:01.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Er? Define? |
| 05:01.03 | art3mis | im looking at ovirt which looks like the right thing |
| 05:01.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah, no |
| 05:01.23 | art3mis | how do you connect to linode? |
| 05:01.23 | ScytheBlade1 | I do it all by SSH |
| 05:01.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh |
| 05:01.31 | ScytheBlade1 | SSH ;) |
| 05:01.32 | art3mis | like setup the image and stuff |
| 05:01.36 | art3mis | seriously? |
| 05:01.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh |
| 05:01.45 | ScytheBlade1 | I thought you meant my personal stuff |
| 05:01.47 | art3mis | no |
| 05:01.49 | ScytheBlade1 | No I use their webpage for that |
| 05:01.54 | art3mis | i dont care about the image thats running ;P |
| 05:02.05 | art3mis | take a look at oVirt |
| 05:02.12 | art3mis | i "think" thats what i'd need |
| 05:02.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Linode uses a custom setup |
| 05:02.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah looks like it |
| 05:02.34 | art3mis | as near as i can tell it basically creates a machin with web that then links to another "machine" running the guest nodes |
| 05:02.54 | ScytheBlade1 | "Kerberos - the oVirt management web UI and libvirt services authenticate using Kerberos principles." |
| 05:02.57 | ScytheBlade1 | A hahaha |
| 05:02.58 | ScytheBlade1 | have fun! |
| 05:03.00 | art3mis | but im not sure if its just a monitor per se, or a single local machine lan type thingy |
| 05:03.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Let me poke at it more |
| 05:03.47 | ScytheBlade1 | http://ovirt.org/screenshots/ss-library.png |
| 05:03.50 | ScytheBlade1 | That looks motivating |
| 05:04.42 | art3mis | the funny thing is a lot of the documentation reads almost akin to those VNC monitoring softwares |
| 05:05.00 | art3mis | where it doesnt so much control or allow./deny access cvia web based as it does scan and check |
| 05:05.26 | art3mis | meaning that you make yer vmachines and then instll this to keep track of them |
| 05:06.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Looks like a complicated piece of software |
| 05:06.19 | art3mis | nods |
| 05:06.30 | art3mis | there's some other options too |
| 05:06.36 | ScytheBlade1 | ISCSI, kerberos, LDAP, full stack of network utilities.. |
| 05:06.38 | art3mis | but meh a fun project is a fun project ;P |
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| 05:07.12 | ScytheBlade1 | I would just as soon drop the pretty GUI and do it all by hand ;) |
| 05:07.28 | art3mis | http://virt-manager.et.redhat.com/ theres this too |
| 05:07.43 | art3mis | well im looking to see if i can mimic what linode does |
| 05:07.47 | art3mis | for shits and giggles |
| 05:07.59 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd be more inclined to use the RH stuff |
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| 05:09.47 | art3mis | the rh stuff is local gnome crap |
| 05:09.50 | art3mis | with a vnc connection |
| 05:09.59 | art3mis | err local X crap |
| 05:10.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes, and it also manages everything you need |
| 05:10.18 | ScytheBlade1 | For you |
| 05:10.36 | art3mis | thats true |
| 05:10.51 | ScytheBlade1 | You won't be configuring ISCSI and kerberos/ldap with it ;) |
| 05:11.06 | art3mis | hehe i wonder how brutal 4 virtual machines on 1 gig would be ;P |
| 05:12.01 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm actualy running three copies of OpenBSD on VMWare with 2GB of RAM |
| 05:12.03 | ScytheBlade1 | ... and WoW |
| 05:13.08 | art3mis | well yeah but obsd isnt that weighty ;P |
| 05:13.17 | art3mis | this should be fun though |
| 05:14.13 | art3mis | just building a centos server right now |
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| 05:15.33 | art3mis | Note: Ironically, we run our test CentOS 5 virtual servers on Macintosh OSX-based Parallel Desktop, and Windows 2003-based VMware ESX guest images. |
| 05:15.46 | art3mis | heh |
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| 05:15.49 | ScytheBlade1 | I've really grown to like cent |
| 05:15.54 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 05:15.59 | art3mis | it's wierd |
| 05:16.06 | art3mis | a lot of stuff i dont like about it |
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| 05:16.21 | art3mis | but for the most part the supplimental utils seems really nice |
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| 05:17.07 | abyx | where can i find the math to calculate the crit damage of arcane blast? my calculations for AB hit are close to normal but the calculated crit damage is lower than the actual crit damage |
| 05:17.46 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:17.46 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:17.46 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:17.47 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:17.51 | art3mis | hehe |
| 05:18.08 | art3mis | the whole first part of the guide keeps telling you not to use root and then in the exmaples it's root logged in ;P |
| 05:18.12 | ScytheBlade1 | abyx: 150% of your normal damage... that's it :) |
| 05:18.29 | ScytheBlade1 | abyx: err I lied, +50% if you're talented |
| 05:18.37 | abyx | but its more complicated than that, ScytheBlade1 |
| 05:19.16 | abyx | i need to include damage modifiers like 2piece t5 bonus (20% increased ab damage) and chaotic skyfire (3% increased crit damage) and spellpower 2/2 (50% increased crit damage bonus) |
| 05:19.34 | abyx | i include all that in my calculations but i still come up short |
| 05:19.39 | ScytheBlade1 | All applied after +dmg and before 200% base |
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| 05:22.46 | abyx | hmm |
| 05:22.57 | abyx | ScytheBlade1: what do you mean? |
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| 05:24.04 | abyx | (baseABdamage + (spelldmg * coefficient)) * 1.75 would be regular crit damage, right? but where would i include 20% increased damage from 2pc t5 and chaoticskyfire crit damage increase |
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| 05:28.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Poof goes freenode |
| 05:28.48 | ScytheBlade1 | abyx, http://wowi.pastey.net/84119 |
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| 05:31.51 | ScytheBlade1 | That was a NASTY netsplit too |
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| 05:34.01 | ScytheBlade1 | abyx: you got that pastey? I sent it like four times, it's entirely possible you got it zero |
| 05:34.34 | NightHawkTheSane | god people need to learn to kill their goddamn constructs. |
| 05:34.49 | abyx | ScytheBlade1 when i'mm wearing 2pc t5 the tooltip for arcane blast shows a 20% increase on the damage... so is the 20% increase added to base damage then spelldamage added after or is it (basedmg + spelldmg) * 1.2 |
| 05:34.54 | abyx | i got the pastey |
| 05:35.00 | abyx | NightHawkTheSane, agreed. |
| 05:35.21 | NightHawkTheSane | seriously, seeing 3 constructs from the same side come running to the raid, makes me cry |
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| 05:35.49 | abyx | what i hate more is not having enough healers on to kill illidan |
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| 05:38.02 | ScytheBlade1 | abyx: easy way to test, cast AB once with gear, and once without |
| 05:38.55 | ScytheBlade1 | If you refactor my pastey for your +dmg, and it matches, then you know it's added post +dmg coef |
| 05:40.21 | art3mis | NO, he does not *have* to buy anything, he can use UML or XEN. |
| 05:40.24 | art3mis | AND, let me repeat, the *ONLY* similarities between WEBMIN/VIRTUALMIN (virtual servers) and virtual private servers are 2 words...... |
| 05:40.36 | art3mis | heh |
| 05:40.37 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 05:40.50 | art3mis | thanks kind of funny |
| 05:40.54 | art3mis | err thats |
| 05:41.07 | abyx | lua > print((((1204*.71)+(927+801/2))*1.2)*2.03) |
| 05:41.12 | abyx | booo no lua? |
| 05:41.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Remove the space |
| 05:41.23 | ScytheBlade1 | lua> print("asdf') |
| 05:41.23 | lua_bot | ScytheBlade1: luabot:1: unfinished string near '<eof>' |
| 05:41.26 | abyx | lua> print((((1204*.71)+(927+801/2))*1.2)*2.03) |
| 05:41.26 | lua_bot | abyx: 5316.18024 |
| 05:41.31 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 05:41.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Or it's slow |
| 05:41.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Or you fixed it, and I need to sleep |
| 05:41.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Because I'm slow! |
| 05:42.18 | abyx | ok AB just crit for 3.5k and that is obviously way lower than what lua just told me |
| 05:42.36 | ScytheBlade1 | And you have 1204 +arcane? |
| 05:42.39 | abyx | yes |
| 05:43.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Ern |
| 05:43.06 | ScytheBlade1 | 927+801? |
| 05:43.09 | ScytheBlade1 | What are those numbers? |
| 05:43.13 | ScytheBlade1 | ... lol |
| 05:43.17 | abyx | min/max of AB |
| 05:43.19 | ScytheBlade1 | You're using the in-game spell page |
| 05:43.20 | abyx | average of them |
| 05:43.23 | art3mis | http://www.freevps.com/docs/freevps_preparation.html <-- neat |
| 05:43.27 | ScytheBlade1 | That is the incorrect number |
| 05:43.28 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=30451 |
| 05:43.32 | abyx | ahhh you're right |
| 05:43.39 | abyx | i forgot the tooltip included the 20% increase |
| 05:43.41 | ScytheBlade1 | 648..752 |
| 05:43.44 | ScytheBlade1 | nods |
| 05:43.47 | Xinhuan | (927+801/2) is not ((927+801)/2) either |
| 05:44.04 | Xinhuan | fail at average! |
| 05:44.06 | abyx | lua> print((((1204*.71)+((648+752)/2))*1.2)*2.03) |
| 05:44.06 | lua_bot | abyx: 3787.59024 |
| 05:44.12 | abyx | thats a better number |
| 05:44.21 | abyx | and yeah, i got lost in all those parentheses |
| 05:44.28 | ScytheBlade1 | That's definitely an average considering the 3.5k crit :) |
| 05:45.01 | abyx | lua> print((((1204*.71)+((668+772)/2))*1.2)*2.03) |
| 05:45.02 | lua_bot | abyx: 3836.31024 |
| 05:45.27 | abyx | arcane blast tooltip says min/max is 668/772 o_O without 2pc t5 |
| 05:45.34 | abyx | where did you get 648..752? |
| 05:45.35 | ScytheBlade1 | it includes talents |
| 05:45.42 | ScytheBlade1 | 01:43 < ScytheBlade1> http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=30451 |
| 05:46.12 | ScytheBlade1 | All of your OWN tooltips include gear bonuses and talents |
| 05:46.14 | ScytheBlade1 | But not +dmg |
| 05:46.15 | abyx | lua> print(648*1.03) |
| 05:46.16 | lua_bot | abyx: 667.44 |
| 05:46.22 | abyx | an arcane instability |
| 05:46.26 | abyx | ah* |
| 05:46.26 | ScytheBlade1 | :) |
| 05:46.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Use a website for pulling base numbers |
| 05:46.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Or respec to 0/0/0 and strip |
| 05:46.52 | abyx | man thats dumb |
| 05:47.43 | abyx | tooltip numbers seem to be misleading.. and also arcane instability says: "increases your spell damage and critical strike chance by 3%" but it increases the base damage of the spell on the tooltip? |
| 05:48.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 05:48.49 | abyx | when i see "increases spell damage" i think increases +arcane damage by 3% >_> |
| 05:48.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Hehe, no |
| 05:49.47 | ScytheBlade1 | 3% damage = shock, 3% more damage |
| 05:50.03 | ScytheBlade1 | it gets confusing, because you take that as the base and then add on your spelldmg coef, and other multipliers |
| 05:50.18 | ScytheBlade1 | When the base numbers are "after" +dmg on the tooltip, yet, the tooltip does not include that |
| 05:54.01 | Xinhuan | its ok, i coded wowequip derived stats to be equally misleading :) |
| 05:54.08 | Xinhuan | so you can just add both together! |
| 05:54.08 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 05:57.42 | Guillotine | So on this gameshow my roommates watching, they ask this woman her job. She's a "professional gold-digger". |
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| 05:58.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Anywho sleeping |
| 05:59.03 | ScytheBlade1 | poofs |
| 05:59.09 | abyx | ScytheBlade1: later :) |
| 05:59.17 | Guillotine | by sbo |
| 05:59.20 | Guillotine | bye* |
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| 06:24.45 | art3mis | hrm isp config is pretty awesopme |
| 06:24.47 | art3mis | awesome |
| 06:24.55 | art3mis | its not as uber awesome as cpanel |
| 06:24.59 | art3mis | but it's pretty good |
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| 06:48.43 | batrick | zzz |
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| 07:24.18 | Guillotine | Cairenn: ping |
| 07:24.27 | Cairenn | Guillotine: pong |
| 07:25.06 | Guillotine | http://www.bugmenot.com/view/www.wowinterface.com turned up on my bimontly bugmenot search. You might want to add WoWI to the non supported list (we did it with cosmos a while back, real easy to do) |
| 07:25.12 | Guillotine | bimonthly* |
| 07:25.24 | Cairenn | danke |
| 07:26.38 | Guillotine | http://www.bugmenot.com/report.php to remove it fyi |
| 07:26.41 | Guillotine | anyway, night all! |
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| 07:38.40 | art3mis | hrm sthis steup is rpetty rad |
| 07:38.57 | art3mis | setup a mail/web/mysql hosting thingy with centos and installed ispconfig |
| 07:39.14 | art3mis | sort of a opensource cpanel |
| 07:39.26 | art3mis | its not as indepth or "edgey" but its got all the right things for it |
| 07:39.57 | art3mis | multiple domain hosting, vhost setup(with email) auto db creation |
| 07:40.06 | art3mis | phpmyadmin if ya need it |
| 07:40.14 | art3mis | full php |
| 07:40.45 | art3mis | im gonna see if i can add in a webbased virtualization tomorrow |
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| 07:51.31 | nevcairiel | man kd3 is slacking, no diff in my mail =P |
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| 07:54.08 | Cairenn | ~staple ckknight |
| 07:54.09 | purl | ACTION attaches a staple gun to a pneumatic nail gun via duct tape, staples ckknight quite well, and hands ckknight to cairenn |
| 07:54.29 | Cairenn | ~stick ckknight |
| 07:54.35 | Cairenn | bleh |
| 07:55.07 | nevcairiel | oh he is doing that again |
| 07:55.23 | nevcairiel | people should just log off during the night when their connection sucks |
| 07:55.46 | Industrial | ^ |
| 07:55.52 | Industrial | just woke up |
| 07:56.00 | nevcairiel | met oo |
| 07:56.02 | nevcairiel | *me too |
| 07:56.18 | Industrial | wewt outlands |
| 07:56.21 | Industrial | now the big choice |
| 07:56.35 | Industrial | Should I gather elemental gear and go elemental after a while or not |
| 07:56.38 | Cairenn | how do you tell what version of .net you are running? |
| 07:58.09 | nevcairiel | you could check the registry or the windows folder |
| 07:58.48 | nevcairiel | like in C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework .. i have subdirs for the two versions i have installed |
| 07:59.03 | Cairenn | danke |
| 08:01.23 | Cairenn | was exactly what he needed, thank you nevcairiel :) |
| 08:04.43 | Fisker- | Remember it's going to have all of the versions there btw |
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| 08:28.35 | Tierrie | you know |
| 08:28.40 | Tierrie | the best shit about drinking is that you end up drunk |
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| 08:47.36 | batrick | Tierrie: someone drinks you? |
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| 08:47.59 | Cairenn | laughs |
| 08:48.22 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.3.x ToC: 20300 | WoW programming book http://tinyurl.com/2gdel9 | "the best shit about drinking is that you end up drunk" - Tierrie |
| 08:48.36 | batrick | wat r u doin up so late Cairenn |
| 08:48.43 | Cairenn | not being asleep? |
| 08:48.51 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 08:48.52 | NightHawkTheSane | good answer |
| 08:48.54 | batrick | a noble endeavor to be sure |
| 08:49.46 | Cairenn | to be brutally honest, my sleep schedule is so completely fucked up that I'm basically a full 12 hrs reversed |
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| 08:50.14 | Cairenn | and given that 2.4 looks to be next tuesday, there isn't really much point in trying to fix it until after that |
| 08:50.19 | batrick | dawn is nature's way of telling you to go to sleep amirite? |
| 08:50.27 | Cairenn | pretty much, yup |
| 08:50.30 | Cairenn | it's 5 am here now |
| 08:51.05 | sacarasc | pfft, -4, worst timezone ever |
| 08:51.44 | klip | :) I just woke up 10 am :) nice time to get out of bed :) |
| 08:56.30 | art3mis | you can check add/remvoe programs too ;P |
| 08:56.37 | art3mis | thats a bit better than the directories ;P |
| 08:57.24 | art3mis | my sleep schedule is like im back in school |
| 08:57.34 | art3mis | stay up til 5am get up at around 10 |
| 08:58.16 | art3mis | <-- carefully chose his classes so his day started late and didnt have anything last block ;P |
| 08:58.40 | batrick | Shirik: ! |
| 08:58.44 | batrick | let's finish that game |
| 08:58.57 | art3mis | so soon gothi.ca will have the ability to have users autosignup! |
| 08:59.08 | art3mis | yay for subdomain hosts off of it of course ;P |
| 09:01.44 | art3mis | anyone know off hand if the altest norton ghost supports ext3? or lvm? |
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| 09:01.54 | art3mis | latest |
| 09:02.48 | art3mis | cuz if this all works right i'll throw a 200gb in here and add in free virtualization for everyone! |
| 09:03.16 | Cairenn | lol |
| 09:03.29 | batrick | linux comes with norton ghost |
| 09:03.33 | batrick | it's called bash and tar =) |
| 09:03.47 | art3mis | i saw on distrowatch the other day a disc that automates cloning |
| 09:04.06 | art3mis | tar is NO WHERE close to the compression ghost does ;P |
| 09:04.12 | batrick | uh |
| 09:04.13 | art3mis | even with bzip or gzip |
| 09:04.22 | batrick | bzip2 is really good |
| 09:04.28 | art3mis | ive compared ;P |
| 09:04.39 | batrick | uh ok |
| 09:04.40 | art3mis | i used to make production iso's |
| 09:05.06 | art3mis | so nyah |
| 09:05.14 | batrick | ~lart3mis |
| 09:05.15 | purl | ACTION smacks art3mis upside the head just cuz |
| 09:05.27 | art3mis | dont make purl hit me because you suck |
| 09:05.32 | batrick | no u suck! |
| 09:05.35 | batrick | sup~ |
| 09:05.36 | art3mis | and dont look at quincy jones |
| 09:05.42 | art3mis | quincy jones cant help you! |
| 09:05.51 | batrick | batrick: is art3mis full of shit |
| 09:05.59 | batrick | batbot: is art3mis full of shit? |
| 09:05.59 | batbot | batrick, Better not tell you now. |
| 09:06.03 | art3mis | hahahah |
| 09:06.05 | batrick | sighs |
| 09:06.08 | batrick | batbot: is art3mis full of shit? |
| 09:06.08 | batbot | batrick, As I see it, yes. |
| 09:06.14 | batrick | ownT! |
| 09:06.15 | art3mis | batbot is batrick full of fail? |
| 09:06.15 | batbot | art3mis, Better not tell you now. |
| 09:06.23 | art3mis | batbot is batrick totally full of fail? |
| 09:06.23 | batbot | art3mis, Don't count on it. |
| 09:06.28 | batrick | ownT!!! |
| 09:06.31 | art3mis | batbot is batrick mostly full of fail? |
| 09:06.32 | batbot | art3mis, Probably. |
| 09:06.38 | art3mis | BLAM! |
| 09:06.41 | batrick | sif |
| 09:07.31 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:07.50 | batrick | i do wut i want |
| 09:08.12 | art3mis | no free virtualization for you! |
| 09:08.20 | batrick | i don't need any! |
| 09:08.50 | batrick | shirik is full of fail |
| 09:08.56 | art3mis | hey cairenn |
| 09:09.01 | art3mis | when ya coming down next? |
| 09:09.01 | Shirik | hi batrick |
| 09:09.05 | batrick | there you are |
| 09:09.08 | Cairenn | art3mis: no idea |
| 09:09.18 | batrick | Shirik: 2 questions |
| 09:09.24 | batrick | 1) do you want to finish that game? |
| 09:09.32 | batrick | 2) are you any closers to compiling that module? |
| 09:09.55 | art3mis | do you have any qualms with bringing me down some 222's with codiene and some lemon neo citrin allergy? |
| 09:09.56 | Shirik | yes, not now, no |
| 09:10.15 | batrick | =( |
| 09:10.22 | Shirik | I am very hard pressed for time lately |
| 09:10.27 | Shirik | the competition is eating most of my time |
| 09:10.33 | batrick | i asked two questions and got three answers O.o |
| 09:10.39 | batrick | what competition? |
| 09:10.44 | art3mis | did you see the awesome bot video of big dog shirik? |
| 09:10.57 | art3mis | he fergot a "but" ;P |
| 09:10.59 | batrick | o that robot competition nvm |
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| 09:14.34 | batrick | guess it's time for sleep |
| 09:14.36 | batrick | night |
| 09:18.32 | klip | good time, whatever your local time is :) |
| 09:20.43 | art3mis | bed time for me for a few hours |
| 09:20.46 | art3mis | ciao |
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| 09:33.13 | Cairenn | ATTACK! |
| 09:33.14 | Cairenn | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/03/19/funny-pictures-attack-nomnomnom/ |
| 09:33.25 | Fisker- | attacks |
| 09:34.05 | mikma | Cairenn: http://www.gotoquiz.com/zombie_survival_test_6 |
| 09:34.51 | Cairenn | awwwwww! baby effelunt! http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/03/19/funny-pictures-joy-elephant/ |
| 09:37.49 | Fisker- | hmm |
| 09:37.56 | Fisker- | i'll end up doing something retarded and become a zombie |
| 09:37.56 | Cairenn | hmmmm, bat or shovel? submachine gun or flamethrower? |
| 09:38.07 | Fisker- | perhaps i shouldn't have chose your mother as company |
| 09:38.08 | Fisker- | :( |
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| 09:38.31 | Fisker- | chosen* |
| 09:38.44 | Cairenn | shovel has the advantage of the metal part on the end that gives that wonderful "CLANG!" sound when you whack it into their face |
| 09:39.09 | Cairenn | bat's a little easier to wind up and thwack someone with though |
| 09:39.22 | Fisker- | i disagree |
| 09:39.35 | Fisker- | With a shovel you can hit them with a lesser chance of being hit yourself |
| 09:39.37 | nevcairiel | shovel + smg, imho |
| 09:39.47 | Fisker- | shovel and shotgun here |
| 09:40.02 | Fisker- | depends on the shotgun i guess |
| 09:40.08 | Cairenn | I dunno, kinda like the idea of the flamethrower, but those things are likely too heavy for me |
| 09:40.09 | Fisker- | smg if it's some shitty shotgun |
| 09:40.41 | nevcairiel | but with a flamethrower you're helpless against zombies! |
| 09:40.43 | Fisker- | There's a saying that goes "The only thing worse than have hordes of brainless zombies after you is having hordes of brainless zombies on fire after you" |
| 09:40.44 | Fisker- | :o |
| 09:40.55 | Fisker- | having* |
| 09:41.03 | Cairenn | now, a nice double barrel shotgun is good if you're going up against snarks |
| 09:41.20 | Fisker- | I want the new military shotgun |
| 09:42.40 | Fisker- | http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/sh29-e.htm |
| 09:42.58 | Cairenn | heh, I have a 41% chance |
| 09:43.03 | mikma | :I |
| 09:43.17 | cladhaire | can someone PLEASE get ckknight an irc proxy |
| 09:43.28 | cladhaire | so we're not treated to his periodic rebirth every so often |
| 09:43.37 | cladhaire | someone has to have a bouncer they can set up for him |
| 09:43.50 | mikma | muah |
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| 09:55.11 | sag_ich_nicht | installs the latest FMOD and overwrites the one in his WoW folder with it |
| 09:55.56 | sag_ich_nicht | wait |
| 09:56.00 | sag_ich_nicht | where did the |
| 09:56.14 | sag_ich_nicht | did blizz remove fmod.dll? |
| 09:56.21 | sag_ich_nicht | or fmodex.dll for that matter? |
| 09:56.22 | sag_ich_nicht | o_O |
| 09:56.52 | Fisker- | slaps sag_ich_nicht around a bit with a large trout |
| 09:57.05 | sag_ich_nicht | Fisker- did they remove it? D: |
| 09:57.14 | Fisker- | dunno |
| 09:57.25 | Fisker- | hope you get owned by warden though |
| 09:57.36 | sag_ich_nicht | facepalm |
| 09:58.11 | sag_ich_nicht | look you're dumb :( |
| 09:58.58 | Fisker- | no u |
| 10:00.08 | sag_ich_nicht | Fisker- i hax'd myself to GM Island and warden didn't do shit |
| 10:00.11 | sag_ich_nicht | so |
| 10:00.16 | sag_ich_nicht | warden fails imho |
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| 11:15.40 | wereHamster | cladhaire, if you point me to a bouncer package/software so I can set it up... |
| 11:18.36 | clad|office | we'd have to get him to agree to use it |
| 11:18.41 | clad|office | i think he actually likes it =/ |
| 11:18.56 | wereHamster | what? the leaving/joining? |
| 11:19.00 | clad|office | yep |
| 11:20.41 | [Ammo] | he should get a shell account |
| 11:20.46 | [Ammo] | and learn to use screen + irssi |
| 11:20.50 | [Ammo] | no need for a bouncer |
| 11:21.06 | clad|office | but a bouncer lets him use whaever he uses now |
| 11:21.09 | clad|office | and stop us from having to deal with it |
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| 11:21.19 | wereHamster | I was thinking about that, too, but I'd have to ask if I can create a shell account for him |
| 11:21.29 | clad|office | ckknight_: Are you actually here now? |
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| 11:21.32 | clad|office | or is it all a charade? |
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| 11:23.36 | nevcairiel | charade |
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| 11:26.29 | wereHamster | anyway, if you get him to agree to use a bouncer, I'll try to set one up |
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| 11:32.36 | Fisker-- | mine is best |
| 11:32.36 | Fisker-- | :o |
| 11:33.51 | Fisker- | only annoyance is that my host is blocking 6667 |
| 11:34.04 | Fisker- | failing to realize that most irc servers usually have 4 or more ports open to connect to |
| 11:36.14 | nevcairiel | he likes the attention of us complaining, thats all |
| 11:37.06 | clad|office | s/ of us complaining, that's all// |
| 11:37.11 | clad|office | ;-) |
| 11:38.28 | nevcairiel | heh |
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| 13:22.03 | foxlit | Given an arbitrary macro string, can I easily determine what it will do? :) |
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| 13:22.22 | foxlit | (concisely, how does #showtooltip know what to display? Can I get at that parser?) |
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| 13:32.32 | ralfWORK | I got the ring off Akil'zon! wewt! |
| 13:34.37 | zenzelezz | I didn't know you were into jewelery |
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| 13:35.25 | Bela|work | heh |
| 13:35.32 | ralfWORK | I am when it has sockets :( |
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| 13:36.25 | Bela|work | so a user here at work pings me because when she goes to one of her mapped drives, it works fine from My Computer, but if she tries to open a file from it in Word (from File -> Open) it only shows her like 2 folders and a couple files in the root |
| 13:36.32 | ralfWORK | it's an odd ring, that's for sure |
| 13:36.38 | Bela|work | had her send me a screencap of what she is seeing |
| 13:36.43 | ralfWORK | oh? |
| 13:36.47 | Bela|work | and then i tell her to try scrolling the bottom scrollbar to the far left |
| 13:36.53 | Bela|work | there they are! |
| 13:37.41 | Bela|work | its early, I will blame it on lack of coffee |
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| 14:15.32 | Wobin | oh god |
| 14:15.33 | Wobin | munter |
| 14:15.41 | Wobin | most stressful uldaman ever |
| 14:15.57 | sacarasc | going anywhere with a hunter is hard |
| 14:16.01 | Industrial | haha, uldaman |
| 14:16.13 | sacarasc | but if you don't then you only have about 10% of the WoW population left |
| 14:16.15 | Wobin | I had to bloody well heal |
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| 14:16.21 | Wobin | as a balance druid =P |
| 14:16.22 | Industrial | sacarasc: how is that, hunter does fine. |
| 14:16.33 | Wobin | I have nothing against well played hunters |
| 14:16.37 | Industrial | sacarasc: maybe your hunters suck - but i dont :p |
| 14:16.39 | Wobin | I am one, for that matter =P |
| 14:16.45 | Wobin | But all munters should be shot |
| 14:16.46 | sacarasc | bet you do |
| 14:16.49 | Wobin | point blank range |
| 14:17.06 | Wobin | Just because you can dual wield doesn't mean you have to melee =P |
| 14:17.17 | Industrial | if I see that and ask them what they are doing and they dont know they get a kick instantly |
| 14:18.21 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Lunessa! |
| 14:18.34 | Lunessa | ... station. |
| 14:18.48 | Lopeppeppy | Indeed. *hug* |
| 14:18.50 | Industrial | Lunessa: wtf does that mean |
| 14:18.52 | Industrial | I dont get it |
| 14:19.49 | Lunessa | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101452/ |
| 14:20.08 | ralfWORK | hate... munters |
| 14:20.21 | ralfWORK | on my realm, all the munter stories seem to happen in SM |
| 14:20.59 | Wobin | I also hate the fact that as a druid, I have no effective aggro dump |
| 14:21.16 | Wobin | and with a warrior that can't tank.... =P |
| 14:21.17 | foxlit | Yes you do |
| 14:21.21 | foxlit | It's called Death |
| 14:21.24 | Wobin | cower is not an effective dump =P |
| 14:21.26 | foxlit | I use it all the time! |
| 14:21.35 | ralfWORK | lolcower |
| 14:21.37 | Wobin | See if I were a shammy, I wouldn't mind that |
| 14:21.41 | ralfWORK | well this is what you do |
| 14:21.49 | ralfWORK | when you need to Cower |
| 14:21.52 | ralfWORK | just switch bear |
| 14:21.58 | ralfWORK | and TANK 4 GORRILLAS AT ONCE |
| 14:22.04 | Wobin | I can do that. |
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| 14:22.18 | Wobin | I just wish the warrior knew what the fuck his 'taunt' button did |
| 14:22.31 | sacarasc | lol |
| 14:22.31 | Wobin | It's not like I was running around in front of him getting killed for the fun of it |
| 14:22.41 | sacarasc | i bet you were |
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| 14:23.19 | Wobin | I was like: "One more death, one more death and I'm leaving the party =P" |
| 14:23.26 | Wobin | But then I found they nerfed uldaman |
| 14:23.28 | Wobin | and we won |
| 14:23.43 | Wobin | (by me moonfiring Archadeus over and over) |
| 14:23.51 | Lopeppeppy | Brain blank... web comic with stick figure Roy and Hayley D&D comic... What is it? |
| 14:24.00 | Wobin | Order of the Stick? |
| 14:24.12 | deltron | ^ |
| 14:24.13 | Lopeppeppy | I love you wobin. Please have your babies in my honor! |
| 14:24.45 | ralfWORK | Wobin: yea when I did ulda recently I was surprised how easy-sauce it was |
| 14:24.47 | ralfWORK | I was impressed |
| 14:25.09 | Wobin | It's the first time I've done it in a crappy pug without a wipe |
| 14:25.14 | Wobin | I was the only one that died |
| 14:25.27 | Wobin | and it was to the four golem guardian room |
| 14:25.31 | Wobin | when it was all single target >< |
| 14:25.50 | ralfWORK | I was tanking it before |
| 14:26.02 | ralfWORK | told the goddamn pally not to aggro on the last boss |
| 14:26.04 | sacarasc | when did they make it easy? |
| 14:26.04 | sacarasc | only been there like twice... |
| 14:26.09 | ralfWORK | so when he did |
| 14:26.17 | ralfWORK | I just stood over on the side of the room |
| 14:26.22 | ralfWORK | and let him deal with it |
| 14:26.30 | ralfWORK | (he had been aggroing every pull, mind you) |
| 14:26.44 | ralfWORK | sacarasc: they narrowed the level range of stuff in there |
| 14:26.49 | ralfWORK | it used to be like 38-50 |
| 14:26.59 | Wobin | hm |
| 14:27.01 | Wobin | not for a long time |
| 14:27.04 | ralfWORK | now it's more normal, like 38-42 or something |
| 14:27.07 | Wobin | 50 is mauradon level |
| 14:27.30 | sacarasc | i remember the last boss in there being an absolute bastard |
| 14:27.33 | ralfWORK | (I'm pulling the numbers out my ass, but you get the idea) |
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| 14:27.40 | Wobin | but yeah, there's at least 40% less death |
| 14:27.58 | Lunessa | But there is not, consequently, 40% more cake. |
| 14:27.59 | Wobin | The 41 mage was oneshotting the little golem guys at the end |
| 14:28.10 | Wobin | with frostbolts |
| 14:28.13 | ralfWORK | hah nice |
| 14:28.16 | Wobin | so yeah, lotsa nerfing |
| 14:28.36 | Wobin | PS mid level druid healing omg so slow |
| 14:28.46 | ralfWORK | druid healing suck |
| 14:28.48 | sacarasc | Archaedas <Ancient Stone Watcher>, Stone Guardian of the Vault, is a level 40 elite (47 Elite prior to Patch 2.3) boss who watches over Uldaman in the name of the mighty Titans. |
| 14:29.06 | ralfWORK | ya, there you go |
| 14:29.28 | wereHamster | 47->40 is a _big_ nerf :( |
| 14:29.36 | ralfWORK | uh yea! |
| 14:29.49 | ralfWORK | but it was pretty jacked up before iirc |
| 14:29.59 | ralfWORK | first boss was like level 38 |
| 14:30.03 | Wobin | yeah |
| 14:30.18 | ralfWORK | so basically, either you went in there with some 38-40 level toons and did the first half |
| 14:30.19 | Wobin | Uldaman might have been the 'separate the real players from the noobs' instance |
| 14:30.32 | ralfWORK | or you went it there with some level 45+ characters |
| 14:30.40 | ralfWORK | and everything was green until the end boss :P |
| 14:30.45 | Wobin | It's set up that you can't go all at once |
| 14:30.47 | Wobin | anyway |
| 14:30.50 | wereHamster | I don't think we ever wiped in uldaman, not on a boss |
| 14:30.55 | Wobin | not and complete everything |
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| 14:31.15 | ralfWORK | Wobin: sure, but you won't turn in those quests and grow 5 levels |
| 14:31.31 | Wobin | Well you will now =P |
| 14:31.34 | ralfWORK | hehe |
| 14:31.46 | sacarasc | the only reason i ever went to uldaman was the enchanting trainer... then i realised there was ones in shattrath |
| 14:31.48 | Wobin | I've been doing about two levels each play session in the last week or so |
| 14:31.49 | ralfWORK | Mara made more sense as for as an instance where "you aren't supposed to do it all at once" |
| 14:31.59 | Wobin | ralfWORK: Even though you can |
| 14:32.04 | ralfWORK | yea |
| 14:32.09 | Wobin | granted, as a too high a level for the orange area |
| 14:32.09 | ralfWORK | but you got a port to the middle :P |
| 14:32.29 | sacarasc | princess at the end of mara was tough ;\ wiped like 4 or 5 times on her... |
| 14:32.29 | ralfWORK | still has the item to port into mara with |
| 14:32.35 | Wobin | I want that staff to work -anywhere- |
| 14:32.38 | Wobin | that'd be cool |
| 14:32.44 | ralfWORK | I farmed the crap out of mara |
| 14:32.46 | Wobin | I wish it was defined as a 'key' |
| 14:32.49 | foxlit | Uldaman has two entrances for a reason :) |
| 14:32.49 | ralfWORK | to get some shoulders off that croc, iirc |
| 14:32.59 | ralfWORK | Wobin: amen to that |
| 14:33.13 | ralfWORK | foxlit: oh that's right... hmm for some reason I never used back door |
| 14:33.16 | ralfWORK | guess I'm a nub |
| 14:33.27 | sacarasc | never knwe there was a back door |
| 14:33.28 | Wobin | back door is for wipes =P |
| 14:33.34 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 14:33.38 | foxlit | and enchanters |
| 14:33.40 | Wobin | ... and boy did that sound seedy or what? |
| 14:33.45 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 14:34.18 | ralfWORK | hrm. I need to write some program |
| 14:34.25 | Wobin | cause really, any time you needed to leave and head back in for quests, all the quest stuff was mostly at the beginning |
| 14:34.33 | ralfWORK | that'll help me swap out my gear to maintain hit cap, but stack as much +dmg as possible |
| 14:35.44 | ralfWORK | I HATE THESE http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/funny-pictures-trilobytes-doritos.jpg |
| 14:36.09 | Wobin | ew |
| 14:36.18 | ralfWORK | *shudders* |
| 14:36.26 | ralfWORK | tell me that's not nasty |
| 14:36.45 | Wobin | ralfWORK: It's not nasty |
| 14:36.58 | ralfWORK | :( |
| 14:36.58 | art3mis | those are huge silverfish ;P |
| 14:36.59 | Wobin | . o O (I'm not even convincing myself) |
| 14:37.11 | ralfWORK | they aren't silverfish |
| 14:37.15 | ralfWORK | they are giant isopods |
| 14:37.15 | art3mis | shhhhhh |
| 14:37.17 | ralfWORK | and they exist |
| 14:37.18 | klip | hm, what does gear mean? I know what does it mean in english, but what does it mean in wow english? :) I read some hints for mage that it is good to have Eagle/Owl Gear and I'm not getting it :) |
| 14:37.32 | ralfWORK | klip: armor/weapons |
| 14:37.36 | art3mis | klip: of the eagle or the owl |
| 14:37.40 | sacarasc | stuff! |
| 14:37.46 | sacarasc | junk |
| 14:37.51 | sacarasc | items |
| 14:37.54 | art3mis | [Sexy Girdle of the Eagle] |
| 14:37.55 | sacarasc | equipment |
| 14:38.16 | klip | I see, thanks :) |
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| 14:39.20 | Maldivia | hmm, been a hwile since I've played a caster it seems |
| 14:40.18 | ralfWORK | well damn. I can't replace my stupid Exorcist ring until I get belt of blasting |
| 14:40.19 | Maldivia | is it just me, or do you automatically interrupt your current spell cast, if your target dies? |
| 14:41.24 | ralfWORK | or I'll have to gem +hit |
| 14:41.28 | ralfWORK | which would be totally retarded |
| 14:41.33 | ralfWORK | Maldivia: I think you are correct |
| 14:42.15 | Maldivia | ralfWORK: that is really annoying... especially when you're casting on someone else (for instance focus) |
| 14:42.33 | ralfWORK | Maldivia: you mean the loss of GCD? |
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| 14:42.57 | Maldivia | not just gcd, but 2-3 sec cast time aswell |
| 14:43.00 | Aaroja | Hey Guys |
| 14:43.03 | ralfWORK | ahh yes |
| 14:43.11 | ralfWORK | well I mean if he dies, what should your cast do? |
| 14:43.26 | ralfWORK | ah, k. there's a heroic arc belt |
| 14:43.32 | foxlit | it should cancel |
| 14:43.37 | foxlit | it does not, any longer |
| 14:43.44 | Maldivia | well, the spell I'm casting os NOT on the target that dies |
| 14:43.59 | ralfWORK | Maldivia: oh? I don't think I follow |
| 14:44.03 | foxlit | So you can effectively spend your entire cast time casting on a dead target |
| 14:44.07 | Wobin | Maldivia: I didn't think it did that |
| 14:44.25 | Wobin | since you're not casting on your target |
| 14:44.36 | ralfWORK | ohhh if your target is dead before you start casting, it'll let you cast you mean? |
| 14:45.14 | foxlit | You missed a "not" :) |
| 14:45.16 | Maldivia | casting fireball on target 1, switches to target 2 and starts casting there, fireball 1 hits after a bit of flight time, kills target, second fireball is interrupted |
| 14:45.37 | ralfWORK | Maldivia: ohhhh.. ok I have never had that happen |
| 14:45.53 | foxlit | Maldivia: that doesn't happen [to me] |
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| 14:47.08 | Aaroja | Can somebody tell me how I get my SinglelineEditBox work? I said that "OnEnterPressed" it should "ClearFocus()" but if I do that it says "Text" has a nil value |
| 14:47.11 | Maldivia | ok, not exactly like above, but it's happening all the time when handling multiple mobs |
| 14:48.27 | Bela|work | wdn has the latest ptr files now |
| 14:49.04 | Aaroja | nobody can help me? |
| 14:50.36 | Lunessa | pastey your code |
| 14:51.16 | Aaroja | it's not a code error :) I don't know the right command to do that |
| 14:51.28 | Aaroja | so I asked if anybody knows |
| 14:51.35 | Bela|work | if its not a code error, then we can't help you |
| 14:51.46 | Bela|work | but if you can pastey your code at wow.pastey.net we can probably find a code error |
| 14:51.57 | sacarasc | heh |
| 14:53.23 | Aaroja | http://wow.pastey.net/84125 |
| 14:53.36 | Aaroja | thats the relevant code |
| 14:53.51 | Bela|work | I dont see any ClearFocus there |
| 14:54.16 | Aaroja | I made it ClearFocus in the Boxes "OnEnterPressed" Event |
| 14:54.23 | wereHamster | post the whole code |
| 14:54.33 | Bela|work | post the whole code, and tell us exactly what the error says |
| 14:54.39 | Aaroja | this is nearly all :) |
| 14:54.41 | art3mis | anyone know of a device that allows sharing cable access to other tvs in the house via LAN that doesnt need a computer attached like snapstream/slipstream ? |
| 14:55.01 | Bela|work | like: Error on line # in file.lua (Text has a nil value) |
| 14:55.02 | ralfWORK | art3mis: nope |
| 14:55.12 | art3mis | ie box 1 hooked up to cable/tivo then broadcasts to the rest of the house allowing for control of said tv |
| 14:55.24 | art3mis | err said cable hookup |
| 14:56.02 | art3mis | the closest thing ive found is a sagetv, but that requires a computer hookup |
| 14:57.07 | Aaroja | the Error says: index global AarojaUIFormSinglelineEditBoxMsg (a nil value) |
| 14:57.26 | Aaroja | an the error is in the 3. line |
| 14:57.38 | Bela|work | ok that helps a little |
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| 14:57.43 | Bela|work | where is this function being used? |
| 14:57.54 | Bela|work | can you pastey the xml that it is being run from? |
| 14:58.07 | Aaroja | never xD it's messed up by my GUI |
| 14:58.32 | Aaroja | it would take you years to get through |
| 14:58.36 | Aaroja | I use "WoW Ui Designer" |
| 14:58.43 | Bela|work | I doubt it would take us long at all |
| 14:58.50 | Aaroja | ok her is the whole situation... |
| 14:58.51 | Bela|work | but we can't help you if we can't see the reference materials |
| 14:58.56 | Bela|work | so sorry |
| 14:59.44 | wereHamster | ctrl+f helps a lot in these situations, don't worry about us not finding the relevant code, we're good at reading lua |
| 15:00.24 | Aaroja | the frame consists of a SinglelineEditBox called "$parentSinglelineEditBoxMsg" and a button called "$parentDoneButton" the EditBox hast "OnEnterPressed" "ClearFocus()" and "OnLoad" "SetAutoFocus(false)" |
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| 15:00.44 | Aaroja | the button just execs the code pastet "OnClick" |
| 15:00.44 | Bela|work | that really doesn't help anything |
| 15:00.46 | Aaroja | thats all |
| 15:01.05 | Aaroja | so i have to search my code for the urls included -.- |
| 15:01.10 | Aaroja | to paste it |
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| 15:01.50 | Bela|work | here is the thing: |
| 15:02.52 | Bela|work | it could be a hundred different issues, from code loading order, to just plain bad code. No one knows, because we dont have a reference. We will always ask for a pastey of the relevant files when asked to look at a bug |
| 15:03.00 | Aaroja | here is the xml |
| 15:03.04 | Aaroja | gl & hf^^ |
| 15:03.05 | Aaroja | http://wow.pastey.net/84128 |
| 15:03.42 | Bela|work | where is AarojaUIFormSinglelineEditBoxMsg ? |
| 15:03.48 | Lunessa | art3mis: http://www.slingmedia.com |
| 15:03.59 | Aaroja | what do you mean by "where"? |
| 15:04.11 | Aaroja | http://wow.pastey.net/84129 (full lua) |
| 15:04.12 | klip | just curious... lua in wow doesn't have any access to network, does it? because one of addons just told me, that there is new version available and I was surprised. |
| 15:04.15 | wereHamster | "SinglelineEditBox called "$parentSinglelineEditBoxMsg"" - there is no such thing in the xml file |
| 15:04.24 | cladhaire | klip: inter-addon communication |
| 15:04.29 | cladhaire | means someone in your raod/guild/party has a newer version |
| 15:04.37 | Bela|work | addon channels |
| 15:04.39 | klip | cladhaire: ah! I see |
| 15:04.40 | Aaroja | ^.- |
| 15:04.43 | Aaroja | let's look |
| 15:04.48 | Bela|work | addons use addon channels to comunicate versions and stuff sometimes |
| 15:04.49 | Aaroja | one moment |
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| 15:04.54 | klip | that makes sense :) |
| 15:04.58 | Bela|work | for self-update notification |
| 15:05.19 | Bela|work | ok, Aroja |
| 15:05.29 | Bela|work | I dont see AarojaUIFormSinglelineEditBoxMsg anywhere, in the xml |
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| 15:05.34 | Bela|work | which leads me to believe it doesn't exist |
| 15:05.40 | Bela|work | which would be why you get an error |
| 15:05.48 | wereHamster | there's AarojaUIFormSinglelineEditBox1 though |
| 15:06.16 | Bela|work | the other problem |
| 15:06.22 | Bela|work | this isn't a template is it? |
| 15:06.29 | Aaroja | damn GUI... it says "&parentSinglelineEditBoxMsg" but it's not written in the XML |
| 15:06.35 | Aaroja | you are right |
| 15:06.55 | Bela|work | did they make it so we can use $parent in non-templates? |
| 15:07.07 | cladhaire | Aaroja: why don't you use this: http://www.codeplex.com/WarcraftAddOnStudio |
| 15:07.15 | wereHamster | Bela|work, that always worked IIRC |
| 15:07.19 | cladhaire | weren't you complaning abotu the software you were using |
| 15:07.22 | cladhaire | Bela|work: that always worked |
| 15:07.30 | Bela|work | interesting |
| 15:08.47 | Bela|work | maybe this will work: http://wow.pastey.net/84132 |
| 15:09.06 | Bela|work | I didn't check the validity of anything else in the lua file though |
| 15:09.09 | Bela|work | just that one function |
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| 15:20.06 | Lunessa | ... always look on the bright side of life... |
| 15:20.29 | Lopeppeppy | *whistles cheerily* |
| 15:20.44 | Lunessa | life's a piece of shit when you look at it... |
| 15:21.45 | Lopeppeppy | So always look on the bright side of death. |
| 15:22.32 | Lunessa | incidentally, this record is available in the foyer. |
| 15:22.45 | Aaroja | Bela it works :) I changed the name of the EditBox now in XML |
| 15:22.58 | Lopeppeppy | My sister got bitten by a moose once. |
| 15:23.10 | Aaroja | is "Addon Studion" better than "WoW Ui Designer"? |
| 15:23.28 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:23.34 | Aaroja | ^^ |
| 15:26.07 | deltron | lol |
| 15:26.57 | Fisker- | though WoW UI Designer is spelled correctly |
| 15:27.13 | ralfWORK | dammit |
| 15:27.27 | ralfWORK | can't get paswordless ssh working to this stupid host |
| 15:28.37 | Aaroja | ok last question (This is a bit tricky I think^^): Why is my "SendChatMessage()" not called but the Debugmessage after? |
| 15:28.51 | Aaroja | in the AarojaUIEvent() |
| 15:30.31 | wereHamster | why do you think it's not being called? |
| 15:30.49 | Aaroja | because it's not send to the chat xD |
| 15:31.00 | wereHamster | maybe guildgreetmsg is nil |
| 15:31.18 | Aaroja | you see my lua? |
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| 15:32.19 | Wobin | did we ever! |
| 15:32.23 | Wobin | wiggles his eyebrows. |
| 15:32.30 | wereHamster | yes, he eventually posted the code |
| 15:32.39 | wereHamster | SendChatMessage(guildgreetmsg, "GUILD", lang, "Aaroja"); |
| 15:32.40 | Aaroja | I have got "if not(guildgreetmsg) then guildgreetmsg ="Hello Guild!" |
| 15:32.44 | wereHamster | why the fourth argument? |
| 15:33.05 | Aaroja | can I leave it out or just ""? |
| 15:33.07 | wereHamster | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SendChatMessage |
| 15:33.24 | wereHamster | just SendChatMessage(guildgreetmsg, "GUILD") |
| 15:33.34 | Lopeppeppy | Wobin, you are a bad bad code monkey. |
| 15:33.37 | Aaroja | k |
| 15:33.50 | Lunessa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWVshkVF0SY |
| 15:33.56 | Aaroja | you see that if guildgreetmsg is nil it is defined earlier? |
| 15:34.11 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:34.31 | Lunessa | I needed a pick-me-up. |
| 15:35.56 | ralfWORK | this one is better for me when I need a pickup |
| 15:35.56 | ralfWORK | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU |
| 15:36.57 | Lunessa | HATE YOU |
| 15:37.02 | ralfWORK | :D |
| 15:37.06 | art3mis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHPOzQzk9Qo <--bright side of life |
| 15:37.12 | ralfWORK | ROLLED |
| 15:37.22 | Roblibob | ralfWORK: that gurl is hawt in that video ;) |
| 15:37.30 | ralfWORK | Roblibob: dude totally |
| 15:37.40 | Wobin | Lunessa: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-JfIduytVs |
| 15:38.01 | Lunessa | Yeah. Love it. |
| 15:38.37 | art3mis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN2VqFPNS8w language NSFW |
| 15:38.42 | art3mis | ^^ love that song |
| 15:38.47 | Aaroja | wereHamster: It doesn't work even if I choose "SAY" instead of "GUILD" |
| 15:39.08 | Aaroja | but if I call that with a button it works :/ |
| 15:39.26 | art3mis | r-e-a-d a b-o-OK |
| 15:39.47 | Aaroja | I don't think RTFM helps much ^^ |
| 15:39.54 | wereHamster | call what with a button? |
| 15:40.02 | Aaroja | SendChatMessage() |
| 15:40.20 | Aaroja | Same part of code but one works the other not |
| 15:41.09 | wereHamster | maybe the guild channel isn't set up yet when VARIABLES_LOADED fires |
| 15:41.20 | wereHamster | try player_entering_world or player_logen |
| 15:41.23 | Aaroja | Say-Channel also? |
| 15:41.24 | wereHamster | player_login |
| 15:41.32 | Aaroja | where is that? |
| 15:41.45 | wereHamster | variables loaded is fired very early in the login process |
| 15:42.35 | wereHamster | where that is? these are events just like VARIABLES_LOADED |
| 15:42.48 | Aaroja | the event "player_login" is fired automaticaly? |
| 15:42.56 | wereHamster | PLAYER_LOGIN |
| 15:43.02 | Aaroja | or do I have to register it? |
| 15:43.18 | wereHamster | you have to register _every_ event you want to receive |
| 15:43.34 | Aaroja | let me try something :) |
| 15:43.48 | dylanm | Unless you're using one of the frameworks. Don't know if you are. |
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| 15:45.52 | wereHamster | http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_that_fire_during_the_Loading_Process |
| 15:46.44 | Aaroja | http://wowi.pastey.net/84137 |
| 15:46.50 | Aaroja | this is the updated lua now |
| 15:47.07 | Aaroja | now I fired the SendChatMessage on the Event "PLAYER_LOGIN" |
| 15:47.23 | Aaroja | but I think thats to early too |
| 15:47.53 | Aaroja | maybe "PLAYER_ALIVE" is better |
| 15:48.08 | wereHamster | Fired when the player: Releases from death to a graveyard. Accepts a resurrect before releasing their spirit. |
| 15:48.22 | wereHamster | greeting your guild everytime you die? |
| 15:48.32 | Aaroja | hm= |
| 15:48.58 | Aaroja | then "PLAYER_ENTERING_WOLRD"? |
| 15:49.00 | Wobin | Aside from Doug Anthony All Stars comedy songs, they do good covers too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-fLZOJ-huE&feature=related |
| 15:49.09 | Wobin | Paul McDermott really has a good singing voice |
| 15:49.32 | wereHamster | Aaroja, also fired when you change continents and enter/leave instances |
| 15:50.45 | Aaroja | ENTER_WORLD? |
| 15:51.06 | wereHamster | is that an event? |
| 15:51.10 | Aaroja | yes |
| 15:51.19 | Aaroja | PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD ^^ |
| 15:51.23 | Aaroja | sorry for that |
| 15:51.39 | wereHamster | yes |
| 15:52.46 | Aaroja | if I can't use "PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD" or everything that goes after... then I can't use my addon ^.- |
| 15:52.55 | Aaroja | because PLAYER_LOGIN is too early I think |
| 15:52.55 | wereHamster | why? |
| 15:53.04 | Aaroja | ok wait^^ |
| 15:53.10 | Aaroja | I change something and try again |
| 15:53.16 | Aaroja | maybe I got the right Idea |
| 15:55.12 | Bela|work | anyone been playing with combat log events with the latest ptr build? |
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| 15:56.32 | Aaroja | is this part of lua correct? |
| 15:56.33 | Aaroja | http://wowi.pastey.net/84138 |
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| 15:57.15 | wereHamster | guildgreet will always be nil in the event == "PLAYER_LOGIN" part |
| 15:57.21 | Aaroja | why? |
| 15:57.28 | wereHamster | it's never set |
| 15:57.58 | Aaroja | it's set on last login |
| 15:58.10 | wereHamster | event can't be "VARIABLES_LOADED" and "PLAYER_LOGIN" at the same time |
| 15:58.21 | Aaroja | AarojaUIVar["guildgreet"] = false is only true for the first login |
| 15:58.23 | wereHamster | and guildgreet is local, not preserved across fucntion calls |
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| 15:58.48 | Aaroja | so guildgreet hast ot be global? |
| 15:59.04 | wereHamster | if you want it to be preserved across function calls, yes |
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| 15:59.15 | Aaroja | k |
| 15:59.20 | foxlit | You can move it out of the function, but keep it local within your file |
| 15:59.31 | Aaroja | how? |
| 15:59.45 | wereHamster | local guildgreet; function AarojaUIEvent() ... end |
| 16:00.08 | Aaroja | so i have to make it local even before the function is declared? |
| 16:00.30 | Bela|work | has anyone else noticed events passing an empty table as the first argument now in 8089? |
| 16:00.32 | dylanm | You make that sound unnatural :p |
| 16:00.45 | Aaroja | ^^ |
| 16:01.04 | Aaroja | hey guys it works xD |
| 16:01.17 | Aaroja | this was the last fault... making it local for every funktion ^^ |
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| 16:14.05 | Adys | for those interested |
| 16:14.10 | Adys | https://eu.blizzard.com/wwi08-tickets/sales/menu.html?locale=fr_FR |
| 16:15.04 | Lopeppeppy | is holding out for Blizcon |
| 16:15.18 | foxlit | https://eu.blizzard.com/wwi08-tickets/sales/menu.html?locale=en_GB |
| 16:15.21 | foxlit | better link :) |
| 16:15.36 | Adys | l'english c'est pour les n00bs |
| 16:15.46 | cog|work | oui |
| 16:16.11 | foxlit | Now if only number-for-letter substitution existed only in french |
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| 16:18.09 | nevcairiel | 70 for a ticket .. mm .. wonder if i can put enough money to the side for travel/hotel/ticket |
| 16:18.52 | Lopeppeppy | Travel/hotel will be my careful-planning point for Blizcon.... *squirrels away her dimes* |
| 16:20.28 | nevcairiel | by train i would travel like 9 hours, no idea how expensive flying would be |
| 16:24.26 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: You can split a room with me. Saves $$ |
| 16:24.37 | ralfWORK | wow |
| 16:24.43 | ralfWORK | so trains cost more than planes |
| 16:24.45 | ralfWORK | that's sad |
| 16:26.36 | Lopeppeppy | True that, Lunessa. *hug* I'll keep ya in mind when the announcement is made! |
| 16:27.16 | nevcairiel | 152 for flying .. i bet its not even cheaper with train |
| 16:27.33 | Lunessa | I'm going this time, 'cause if I don't cog|work and mrs. cog|work will invent a new set of gnomish devices to experiment with on me. |
| 16:28.21 | Lopeppeppy | I totally would want to see that! |
| 16:28.26 | Lopeppeppy | ... or just meet Mrs. Cog. |
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| 16:37.04 | Lunessa | She's a hoot. :) |
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| 16:43.20 | Bela|work | fyi, it looks like the current PTR build has LUA_COMPAT_VARARG turned off. So if your addon uses arg to reference {...} then you might want to change it |
| 16:43.45 | Bela|work | or add a local arg = {...}; arg[n] = #arg; line |
| 16:43.52 | nevcairiel | what now? |
| 16:44.05 | nevcairiel | i didnt even know that was possible |
| 16:44.06 | Bela|work | varargs |
| 16:44.24 | Bela|work | used to return {...} silently as a variable called arg |
| 16:44.46 | Bela|work | but it was deprecated in Lua 5.1, however wow had it still enabled |
| 16:44.51 | wereHamster | not arg.n = #arg ? |
| 16:44.51 | Bela|work | until now |
| 16:45.00 | Bela|work | that works too wereHamster |
| 16:45.08 | nevcairiel | stupid legacy compat code, work with select :P |
| 16:45.11 | Cide | arg["n"] or arg.n |
| 16:45.13 | Bela|work | err, yeah my version was bad |
| 16:45.15 | Cide | but yeah, point still stands |
| 16:48.16 | Bela|work | even with select you would still need to pack ... into a table nevcairiel |
| 16:48.34 | nevcairiel | wait what why? |
| 16:48.45 | nevcairiel | you can just pass ... around |
| 16:48.45 | Bela|work | err nm |
| 16:48.50 | Bela|work | yeah |
| 16:48.53 | Cide | nevcairiel: pass around how? :P |
| 16:49.04 | nevcairiel | functioncall(...) |
| 16:49.05 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 16:49.13 | Lopeppeppy | Like the cloven fruit? *giggle* |
| 16:49.18 | Cide | ya, but that assumes the functioncall accepts a vararg, too :P |
| 16:49.21 | Bela|work | local hi = select(3,...) |
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| 16:49.31 | Cide | can't assign it to anything |
| 16:49.35 | Cide | other than a table, like Bela|work mentioned |
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| 16:50.15 | Cide | wishes it worked more like tuples |
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| 17:06.19 | AnduinLothar | My Othello AI didn't win. But I did make it into the finals 9th of 15, out of 75 total. |
| 17:06.34 | ralfWORK | AnduinLothar: oh you wrote an othello ai? |
| 17:06.50 | AnduinLothar | yeah, for my ai class |
| 17:07.00 | AnduinLothar | there was a 4 round tournament |
| 17:07.19 | ralfWORK | neat |
| 17:08.00 | AnduinLothar | He altered the starting board in the finals tho, two white on top, 2 black on bottom. None of us had tested for that. It made for more branching factor in the mid game. |
| 17:08.18 | ralfWORK | hah |
| 17:12.14 | AnduinLothar | the last round robin round with 15 played took like 30 hours to complete |
| 17:12.25 | ralfWORK | wow |
| 17:12.27 | AnduinLothar | 10 min allowed per side |
| 17:12.46 | AnduinLothar | 24 games per ai |
| 17:13.28 | ralfWORK | sounds fun |
| 17:14.01 | AnduinLothar | he was running it on a slow ass 1.2 ghz machine tho, so we were limitted to how deep we could go and it was hard to test since i have a quad core 2.66ghz at home.. |
| 17:14.11 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 17:14.48 | Bela|work | thats hawt |
| 17:15.00 | Bela|work | my combat log dispatcher is exactly 69kb usage |
| 17:15.07 | Bela|work | couldn't have planned that better |
| 17:15.22 | Cide | nice |
| 17:15.49 | Bela|work | now I can add a comment saying "Combat Log Dispatcher: Making Sweet Sweet Love to your combat log" |
| 17:16.07 | Cide | is that 69 kilobytes, kelly-bottle standard units, intel kilobytes or drivemaker's kilobytes? |
| 17:16.21 | Bela|work | whosiwhatsit? |
| 17:16.26 | Cide | http://xkcd.com/394/ |
| 17:16.32 | AnduinLothar | does that replace the combat log or what? |
| 17:17.16 | Bela|work | no |
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| 17:17.25 | Bela|work | its basically like a RegisterEvent for combat logs |
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| 17:17.55 | AnduinLothar | so.... a wrapper? |
| 17:17.56 | Bela|work | it handles the job of getting all combat log events, and then passing you the ones you care about |
| 17:18.19 | Bela|work | watcher:StartWatching("SWING_DAMAGE",CallBackFunction); |
| 17:18.41 | AnduinLothar | does it parse all the bit-code? |
| 17:18.45 | Bela|work | nope |
| 17:18.59 | Bela|work | all it does is pass the combat log data to you, as is |
| 17:19.01 | AnduinLothar | so why not jsut register it yourself? |
| 17:19.13 | Bela|work | you could, if you want to do that |
| 17:19.23 | AnduinLothar | why is yours better? |
| 17:19.42 | Cide | because it only registers the combat log event once |
| 17:19.55 | Bela|work | I did this to make it so I didn't have to register for COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED on every addon I used it on, and then parse out only the ones I want |
| 17:20.10 | Cide | you always get all the sub-events, so a centralized callback handler/wrapper is better, and easier to use |
| 17:20.11 | Bela|work | its just a central way of doing it |
| 17:20.35 | Cide | I have a similar thing myself, although that does some filtering based on bitflags too, if you want |
| 17:21.00 | Bela|work | yeah I may add that later |
| 17:21.05 | Bela|work | maybe a separate set of returns |
| 17:21.25 | Lunessa | The best part about hanging out with you guys is that by the time I get around to wanting to code something, most of you have built libraries or tools that save me a ton of work. |
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| 17:21.46 | Bela|work | I built this for NaturECB |
| 17:21.53 | Bela|work | but it could be used anywhere |
| 17:22.29 | AnduinLothar | yeah, I'm sorta looking for something to resurrect DM. I'm dreading writing the bit-code parsing |
| 17:22.54 | Bela|work | its easier than it looks |
| 17:23.15 | Bela|work | I do think they should move the bitcodes out to FrameXML though |
| 17:23.30 | Bela|work | like the comments mention |
| 17:23.52 | ScytheBlade1 | The bitcode really isn't that bad |
| 17:25.10 | AnduinLothar | well, the issue is that i have to crunch it in to worth with the existing collection code. or rewrite the whole thing |
| 17:25.26 | AnduinLothar | s/worth/work |
| 17:25.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Ahh |
| 17:25.41 | ScytheBlade1 | So it's an existing code thing ;) |
| 17:25.50 | AnduinLothar | yeah... and not my code either |
| 17:26.02 | AnduinLothar | tempted to just kill the whole project |
| 17:26.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Know how people were saying that they could write their own action bars in 40 lines once 2.0 hit? |
| 17:26.24 | AnduinLothar | my ass |
| 17:26.27 | ScytheBlade1 | You can write your own damage meter in 40 lines with 2.4 |
| 17:26.29 | ScytheBlade1 | ;) |
| 17:27.08 | AnduinLothar | yeah, I'm sure it's easier. It doesn't make much sense to force it into the existing framework and limit the functionality |
| 17:27.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Exactly |
| 17:27.44 | ScytheBlade1 | It is absolutely trivial, given the bitcode, to fliter out anything you please, without limits |
| 17:27.46 | AnduinLothar | The onyl real reason to do it is to save the GUI |
| 17:28.37 | AnduinLothar | and the name |
| 17:28.51 | AnduinLothar | and the users |
| 17:29.20 | ScytheBlade1 | You have rights to the name - nuke it all, and rebuild the GUI to match. The GUI is incredibly simple, from what I remember |
| 17:29.41 | AnduinLothar | don't have time for that really |
| 17:30.03 | AnduinLothar | already rewriting Archaeologist from scratch |
| 17:30.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah |
| 17:30.26 | AnduinLothar | and a table parsing middle man for the new UI options |
| 17:31.00 | AnduinLothar | and i have a network security final in 2 hrs! |
| 17:31.08 | AnduinLothar | pretends to study |
| 17:31.10 | Bela|work | current combat log code seems to work on 2.4 as long as the end-user has the filter set to everything |
| 17:31.25 | Bela|work | but thats unreliable |
| 17:31.25 | AnduinLothar | orly? |
| 17:31.31 | Bela|work | yeah, NaturECB works |
| 17:31.35 | Bela|work | as-is |
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| 17:31.43 | ScytheBlade1 | So they didn't nuke the existing events? |
| 17:31.50 | Bela|work | minus a couple things I had to rip out, like the checks for CombatLogRange |
| 17:31.58 | Bela|work | since they no longer exist |
| 17:32.12 | Bela|work | doesn't appear so |
| 17:32.26 | Bela|work | although i haven't tried it on this build |
| 17:32.32 | dylanm | I thought that they said that they would. Oh well. |
| 17:32.43 | Bela|work | maybe they will, but it worked as of last ptr build |
| 17:33.50 | Bela|work | I made NaturECB work without rewriting it that way, so that I had more time to do my rewrite |
| 17:33.58 | Bela|work | like an interim release |
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| 17:42.08 | ScytheBlade1 | KDE4 = pretty |
| 17:42.15 | ScytheBlade1 | It's also unusable, for the curious |
| 17:42.30 | haste | that's why we use wmii with your own lua rc |
| 17:43.03 | ScytheBlade1 | lol @ lua rc |
| 17:43.42 | haste | it generates less wakeup calls on my laptop than the default one in bash :3 |
| 17:43.52 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
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| 18:06.18 | foxlit | KeyBindingFrame_OnKeyDown is major QQ material :( |
| 18:07.12 | foxlit | It integrates a bit too closely into the default keybindings UI to be pulled out and used as is |
| 18:07.56 | MentalPower | make your own |
| 18:08.05 | foxlit | Indeed, but have you seen that function? |
| 18:08.11 | MentalPower | nop |
| 18:08.13 | MentalPower | :P |
| 18:08.26 | foxlit | It's around a 100 lines worth of dealing with special cases |
| 18:08.50 | MentalPower | eek |
| 18:09.19 | Kaso | "shouldn't we work out some generalised system for dealing with keybinding cases?" "NAH, Just Hack it in!" |
| 18:10.10 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 18:13.14 | |pez| | *yawn* |
| 18:14.13 | zenzelezz | pokes |pez| |
| 18:14.28 | |pez| | zenzelezz: what? |
| 18:14.42 | zenzelezz | too early to be tired now! |
| 18:14.56 | |pez| | damn straight, I'm working from midnight to 8am. :P |
| 18:16.13 | zenzelezz | either you have a weird word for it or you have weird work hours |
| 18:17.11 | AnduinLothar | I'm tired and i have a final in 2 hrs. this is bad |
| 18:17.33 | |pez| | zenzelezz: 'it' ? :P |
| 18:17.37 | |pez| | I'm at The Gathering. |
| 18:17.51 | zenzelezz | working there? |
| 18:20.49 | Atriace | Well, I'm stumped. I've been trying to get a new dropdownmenu that's a replica of the PlayerFrame one. I've followed the HOWTO on wowwiki, and I've compared/utilized the code from PlayerFrame.xml & PlayerFrame.lua, but nothing appears to be happening. |
| 18:20.59 | Atriace | If anyone could lend a hand: http://wowi.pastey.net/84140 |
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| 18:23.19 | Atriace | It's occured to me that maybe it is working, but simply offscreen (or under a layer). Still... if someone could at least verify what I have *should* be working, that'd be sweet. |
| 18:23.49 | AnduinLothar | doesn't that try to open the PlayerFrameDropDown, which is anchored to the player frame? |
| 18:24.25 | Atriace | I thought PlayerFrameDropDown was the table entry. |
| 18:24.37 | AnduinLothar | ToggleDropDownMenu(level, value, dropDownFrame, anchorName, xOffset, yOffset) |
| 18:25.35 | AnduinLothar | try ToggleDropDownMenu(1, nil, SUI_Self_DropDown, "SUI_Self_Button", 106, 27); |
| 18:25.51 | AnduinLothar | and UnitPopup_ShowMenu(SUI_Self_DropDown, "SELF", "player") |
| 18:26.47 | Atriace | No luck. But I have a feeling that was a step in the right direction. |
| 18:28.36 | Atriace | Just looking at the code, I'm not sure where it's pulling the menu options from. |
| 18:28.48 | AnduinLothar | might have to add SUI_Self_DropDown to UnitPopupFrames |
| 18:28.56 | AnduinLothar | in UnitPopup.lua |
| 18:29.50 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.joeydevilla.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/map_of_humanity.jpg |
| 18:31.26 | Atriace | Ha. Isengard is on the map... |
| 18:32.04 | AnduinLothar | tinsert(UnitPopupFrames, SUI_Self_DropDown) |
| 18:32.13 | AnduinLothar | and hope that doesn't taint it |
| 18:33.47 | Atriace | Doesn't seem to have an effect. |
| 18:34.09 | Atriace | There was one other line which I omitted though... SecureUnitButton_OnLoad(this, "player", showmenu) |
| 18:34.36 | Atriace | I'm not seeing its purpose yet. |
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| 18:35.06 | |pez| | zenzelezz: yes. |
| 18:35.09 | AnduinLothar | it's for secure template functions |
| 18:35.29 | AnduinLothar | don't think it's related to the menu |
| 18:36.03 | AnduinLothar | but i could be wrong |
| 18:37.39 | AnduinLothar | your SUI_Self_DropDown needs anchors i think |
| 18:38.59 | Atriace | It's parented to SUI_SelfFrame. It should be anchored to the center of it. |
| 18:39.58 | AnduinLothar | ah ok. the SecureUnitButton_OnLoad is used in combination with the secure onclick handler |
| 18:40.54 | AnduinLothar | so you dont need it, your onclick should work |
| 18:40.59 | AnduinLothar | dunno what to tell you |
| 18:41.38 | AnduinLothar | did you register for click? |
| 18:41.43 | AnduinLothar | i spose buttons are by default |
| 18:41.52 | Atriace | Well, thanks for the help, though. :) |
| 18:41.52 | Atriace | laag |
| 18:42.38 | Atriace | I don't believe buttons require register for click. The Howto didn't mention anything about it either. |
| 18:44.59 | AnduinLothar | hmmm if you're using SecureUnitButtonTemplate you may have to use the SecureUnitButton_OnLoad, not sure |
| 18:45.33 | AnduinLothar | shouldn't need to inherit it if you only want the menu |
| 18:46.30 | AnduinLothar | http://wowi.pastey.net/84142 maybe |
| 18:46.40 | AnduinLothar | dunno |
| 18:46.41 | AnduinLothar | gtg |
| 18:46.48 | Atriace | Cheers |
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| 19:21.18 | NightHawkTheSane | Annoying thing #458: People who set out-of-office auto-reply rules. |
| 19:21.21 | cog|work | bashes his head on his keyboard repeatedly for forgetting that HTML ids are case sensitive |
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| 19:29.08 | Atriace | You know, its' funny. I'm not a programmer at heart. There was this guy that offered to help me with code a while back, but I haven't been able find him since. Being an artist, I wish I could simply offload some of these code portions to someone else to do. :/ |
| 19:29.27 | Sixen | Heh. |
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| 19:30.10 | Atriace | I've got most of the UI up and running, save for action bars and popupmenus. And those use the Securexxx stuff. I'm still wrapping my head around it. |
| 19:30.25 | Atriace | I desperately want to get this done before 2.4 comes out. |
| 19:30.56 | cog|work | Atriace: you're not Cowgra, are you? |
| 19:31.08 | Atriace | Nope. Ansu of Dalaran. |
| 19:31.25 | cog|work | ah |
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| 19:31.46 | cog|work | Cowgra was in a similar situation and I was "this guy" but i haven't seen him since... |
| 19:31.53 | Atriace | lol |
| 19:32.00 | Fisker- | mean you cog|work |
| 19:32.02 | Atriace | What irony. |
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| 19:34.23 | Amarande | hmm, anyone know how to make Bartender3's bar 1 be a fixed bar? |
| 19:34.43 | Amarande | I just died thanks to a behavior that probably absolutely no one running bt3 ever runs into more than once in a blue moon :S |
| 19:36.52 | Atriace | Fixed? As in not paging to another bar? |
| 19:38.08 | Amarande | Yeah. |
| 19:38.29 | sag_ich_nicht | some shaman here to confirm my suspicion that Anetheron's sleep can in fact NOT be dispelled by tremor totem and that it was only a bug that allowed this to happen? -_- |
| 19:38.32 | Amarande | I just died because all my fighting skills pretty much are on bar 1, and somehow it got turned into a clone of bar 3, not exactly sure how it got shifted |
| 19:38.36 | Atriace | Right-click the bartender icon, go to Bar1 -> Button Paging -> Enable/Disable |
| 19:38.54 | Amarande | Thanks :) |
| 19:39.01 | Amarande | Too bad I'll have to do it again in a week or so |
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| 19:57.20 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge is Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.3.x ToC: 20300 | WoW programming book http://tinyurl.com/2gdel9 | "the best shit about drinking is that you end up drunk" - Tierrie |
| 20:01.35 | Kaso | http://gizmodo.com/photogallery/nerf2008/1000756433?viewSize=thumb800x800 |
| 20:01.44 | Kaso | A freaking nerf machine gun |
| 20:02.25 | ralfWORK | nerf? QQ |
| 20:02.27 | ralfWORK | QQQQQQ |
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| 20:20.56 | Duman | hah |
| 20:20.57 | Duman | LOL @ http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5286578268&sid=1 |
| 20:21.32 | ralfWORK | headache |
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| 20:24.13 | ralfWORK | hurts... so bad... |
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| 20:41.57 | |pez| | does anyone recognize the game this little screenie is from . http://www.gathering.org/tg08/files/puzzle/images/game19.jpg |
| 20:42.32 | Cide | that would be worms |
| 20:42.33 | cog|work | worms? |
| 20:42.54 | |pez| | awesome, thanks. |
| 20:48.19 | Shirik | so I guess it's time to vendor my moonclothr robe :< |
| 20:48.24 | Shirik | sighs. I knew thee well. |
| 20:48.26 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 20:48.29 | ralfWORK | like |
| 20:48.34 | Cide | why vendor it? |
| 20:48.34 | ralfWORK | oldschool mooncloth robe? |
| 20:48.36 | Cide | just destroy that pos |
| 20:48.53 | Cide | sorry Shirik, I had to flame you |
| 20:49.02 | Cide | I can't help it; it's so fun! |
| 20:49.04 | Shirik | stfu |
| 20:49.09 | Cide | <3? |
| 20:49.10 | Shirik | it holds many memories :( |
| 20:49.19 | Cide | I still have my benediction around so |
| 20:49.25 | Cide | there there |
| 20:49.25 | Shirik | I still want one |
| 20:49.33 | ralfWORK | I don't have a benediction :( |
| 20:49.37 | Shirik | need to go convince people to run MC |
| 20:49.46 | kaso_ | i love my bene |
| 20:49.47 | ralfWORK | no I solo mc kk |
| 20:49.51 | Cide | 'there there.. do you want to talk?' 'no' 'good. 'there there' was really all I had.' |
| 20:50.07 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 20:50.09 | Cide | of course, nobody will get the reference :/ |
| 20:50.14 | ralfWORK | nope |
| 20:50.21 | Cide | maybe Shirik |
| 20:50.36 | Cide | for the sole reason that I've said it in here before :P |
| 20:51.26 | zenzelezz | well, we would know it, but no-one listens to you anyway |
| 20:51.32 | Cide | sure. |
| 20:52.02 | Cide | although it appears that you're right.. nobody is replying to my ticket! |
| 20:52.11 | Cide | but it's only 1hr old so I still have faith |
| 20:52.18 | ralfWORK | what's the ticket for |
| 20:52.28 | Cide | http://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/6844 |
| 20:52.54 | ralfWORK | I see |
| 20:53.22 | Amarande | I put in a GM ticket a few weeks ago |
| 20:53.31 | Amarande | the response basically amounted to "sorry, but you will have to go farm more fel iron" |
| 20:53.40 | ralfWORK | rofl |
| 20:53.56 | ralfWORK | I need someone in my guild to make mana pot injectors :( |
| 20:54.21 | Amarande | apparently, there was this weird glitch where I got DC'd while heading back to the Sha'tar camp after doing a quest in the birdmen camp towards the east part of Terokkar |
| 20:54.37 | Amarande | I had just stopped in the south-middle part of Auchindoun and then I got DC'd |
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| 20:54.54 | Amarande | next thing I knew, I was back on top of the birdmen tower, and the point of JC I had earned while walking the distance was gone |
| 20:55.07 | Amarande | though, strangely, the item I had created to earn that point of JC was still there :S |
| 20:55.12 | ralfWORK | odd |
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| 20:55.32 | Amarande | 324 is probably one of the worst spots to have that happen to |
| 20:55.41 | ralfWORK | oh so I found out somehing weird the other day |
| 20:55.43 | Amarande | actually, 300 would probably be the worst point to lose, followed by 299, 324, 325 |
| 20:55.53 | Amarande | Even 375 isn't as bad of a point to lose, if it happens |
| 20:56.03 | ralfWORK | was in the middle of fighting nalorakk |
| 20:56.12 | ralfWORK | got disconnected |
| 20:56.13 | Amarande | 375 = just spend another 100g or so on a skyfire or earthstorm diamond and do another meta cut, then put it back on AH :) |
| 20:56.24 | ralfWORK | quit wow |
| 20:56.26 | ralfWORK | came back on |
| 20:56.32 | ralfWORK | how about I had full HP and mana |
| 20:59.23 | zenzelezz | I'm the cheap kind, I don't buy materialsfor leveling tradeskills unless I absolutely must |
| 20:59.37 | zenzelezz | for blacksmithing I flew all over Shadowmoon for a week gathering adamantite and making adamantite cleavers |
| 20:59.43 | zenzelezz | cause they only required bars |
| 20:59.50 | ralfWORK | *shudder* |
| 20:59.56 | Saint-N | flying is easy mode ;) |
| 21:00.01 | Saint-N | what if you had to ride ;lP |
| 21:00.03 | ralfWORK | not looking forward to leveling that up |
| 21:00.04 | zenzelezz | not with slow bird |
| 21:00.11 | ralfWORK | slow bird ftl |
| 21:00.11 | Saint-N | then you would have hearthed and hit the ah ;P |
| 21:00.33 | zenzelezz | I wouldn't have 14k if I had spent it all on fast mounts or materials |
| 21:00.33 | Saint-N | even slow flying is good though |
| 21:00.42 | zenzelezz | I had my route, it worked well |
| 21:00.42 | Saint-N | it means not having to fight things on yer way places |
| 21:00.50 | zenzelezz | just the last few points took tons and tons of cleavers to ding |
| 21:01.01 | Saint-N | literally tons ;) |
| 21:01.05 | zenzelezz | yes |
| 21:01.14 | zenzelezz | but still, earning 8g per cleaver wasn't all bad |
| 21:01.23 | Saint-N | I did 375 tailoring twice ;P |
| 21:01.29 | Saint-N | once my original run |
| 21:01.34 | Saint-N | then I switched from moon to shadow |
| 21:01.42 | ralfWORK | huh? |
| 21:01.53 | Saint-N | prior to thier "reset to 300" thing |
| 21:02.04 | ralfWORK | you mean the "we don't reset at all" thing? |
| 21:02.15 | Saint-N | you can drop it completely and redo it ;P |
| 21:02.28 | Saint-N | so yeah I did 375 tailor twice |
| 21:02.32 | ralfWORK | naw, I switched PMC -> SW the other day |
| 21:02.37 | ralfWORK | didn't lose a single skill |
| 21:02.49 | Saint-N | this was prior to that ability |
| 21:02.59 | ralfWORK | ouch |
| 21:03.05 | Saint-N | it wasn't bad actually |
| 21:03.12 | Saint-N | as a shadow priest farming cloth is easy ;P |
| 21:03.16 | Saint-N | dot dot dot |
| 21:03.19 | Saint-N | sit and wait |
| 21:03.21 | ralfWORK | yea I suppose |
| 21:03.38 | Saint-N | plus ihad two farmers farming netherweave for me ;P |
| 21:03.41 | Saint-N | and runcloth |
| 21:03.51 | Saint-N | for like 25% ah pricing cuz I was doing bulk and I'm lazy |
| 21:03.51 | ralfWORK | ohhh hax |
| 21:04.20 | Saint-N | we actually had a whole cloth industry on my server |
| 21:04.47 | Saint-N | 6 of us all had our cooldowns on cloth timed so that every two days we could produce |
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| 21:04.55 | Saint-N | and we'd just swap what we needed |
| 21:05.10 | Saint-N | it was handy ;P |
| 21:05.17 | ralfWORK | I haven't made a single piece of shadowweave since switching lol |
| 21:05.21 | Saint-N | laugh |
| 21:05.33 | Saint-N | you're a warrior aren't you ;) |
| 21:05.38 | ralfWORK | rofl |
| 21:05.46 | ralfWORK | I have a warrior :) |
| 21:06.10 | ralfWORK | I shamed all my guildies into making the shadowcloth for me while I was holy |
| 21:06.19 | ralfWORK | then got the gems together |
| 21:06.24 | Saint-N | heh |
| 21:06.28 | ralfWORK | switched and within 20m, had my stuff put together |
| 21:06.31 | Saint-N | I don't think all my stuff has gems |
| 21:06.40 | Saint-N | !c us echo isles rozalyn |
| 21:06.40 | ralfWORK | wtf not even cheapies? |
| 21:11.16 | Tem|afk | Go the AH and buy some green gems |
| 21:11.26 | Tem|afk | DO IT |
| 21:11.28 | Tem|afk | DO IT NOW |
| 21:11.46 | ralfWORK | =) |
| 21:15.01 | Shirik | damn I have a lot of spirit |
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| 21:20.48 | Industrial | Anyone here have a Geforce 8800GTS (512) card ? |
| 21:21.00 | Industrial | What's your performance in wow in terms of FPS |
| 21:21.27 | Industrial | (not including 'addon lag' (:|) ofcourse) |
| 21:23.45 | batrick | I had 40fps in some places with two screens on one card, usually 60fps tho |
| 21:23.55 | zenzelezz | I appear to have the 320 MB version, and I have pretty good FPS |
| 21:24.36 | Industrial | damn, cause I get like 20fps when looking around in outlands |
| 21:24.37 | zenzelezz | varies from place to place and how much graphical crap is going on, but usually I'm between 30 and 60 FPS (on 1920x1200, with a 1280x1024 also) |
| 21:24.41 | Industrial | 60 if I look at the floor |
| 21:24.48 | Industrial | yeah same then |
| 21:24.52 | Industrial | hmm. |
| 21:24.59 | zenzelezz | mostly I have no issues with it |
| 21:25.25 | Industrial | Guess thats just wow/mmorpg's then. I'm now downloading fortress forever to see how it does with that |
| 21:25.37 | Industrial | (hl2/source engine) |
| 21:27.21 | Nechckn | TweakForce.com releases some awesome drivers for Nvidia and other cards |
| 21:27.46 | Nechckn | some of them speed up, especially gaming performace, dramatically. I've always had good luck with 'em |
| 21:27.51 | Industrial | k |
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| 21:28.02 | zenzelezz | thanks fior the tip |
| 21:28.05 | Cide | nvidia's drivers speed things up, too |
| 21:28.06 | zenzelezz | -i |
| 21:28.09 | Cide | just don't rename the .exe |
| 21:28.21 | Cide | of your games |
| 21:30.39 | Nechckn | nice thing is that there are alot of users of various cards who rate the different driver sets and all, so if you have a specific card, you can look for a specific release, etc. Reg is needed to post on forums, but again, i've never had issues with spam or other crap. =) |
| 21:36.15 | Nechckn | totally seperate thing... http://www.figureprints.com/Default.aspx if frikin' amazing! |
| 21:36.32 | Nechckn | rapid prototyping at it's Capitalistic best! |
| 21:44.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | had a credit but didnt feel like paying for it |
| 21:44.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | in the drawing or whatever |
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| 21:47.40 | cog|work | they need to hire more minions imo... |
| 21:50.30 | Lunessa | need more machines. |
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| 21:52.15 | MentalPower | lua> a = 12345 b = "Hello" c = "Bye" d = "Aloha" pp{a = a, b = b, c = c or d} |
| 21:52.15 | lua_bot | MentalPower: { ["a"] = 12345, ["c"] = "Bye", ["b"] = "Hello" } (#1) |
| 21:52.29 | MentalPower | lua> a = 12345 b = "Hello" c = nil d = "Aloha" pp{a = a, b = b, c = c or d} |
| 21:52.29 | lua_bot | MentalPower: { ["a"] = 12345, ["c"] = "Aloha", ["b"] = "Hello" } (#1) |
| 21:52.44 | MentalPower | howdy Cairenn |
| 21:52.49 | Cairenn | hi hi |
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| 21:53.08 | Josh_Borke | hola Cairenn |
| 21:53.12 | Cairenn | hi hi |
| 21:53.16 | Cide | MentalPower: pp? pretty print? |
| 21:53.19 | Cide | lua> pp |
| 21:53.20 | lua_bot | Cide: function: 0x63ef30 |
| 21:53.29 | Josh_Borke | lua> pp("Fred") |
| 21:53.29 | lua_bot | Josh_Borke: "Fred" |
| 21:53.41 | Josh_Borke | lua> pp({ bob="bob" }) |
| 21:53.41 | lua_bot | Josh_Borke: { ["bob"] = "bob" } (#1) |
| 21:53.48 | Josh_Borke | lua> print({ bob="bob" }) |
| 21:53.48 | lua_bot | Josh_Borke: table: 0x63d960 |
| 21:53.59 | Cide | ah |
| 21:54.13 | Cide | there's the difference :P |
| 21:54.34 | MentalPower | yes |
| 21:54.35 | MentalPower | pp |
| 21:54.40 | MentalPower | pretty print |
| 21:58.44 | foxlit | Is there a magical way to get the effective action of an arbitrary macro string? |
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| 21:59.39 | foxlit | (How does #showtooltip work? C does the heavy lifting?) |
| 22:01.15 | MentalPower | yes, C does the heavy lifting now |
| 22:01.25 | MentalPower | however previous versions had the code in Lua |
| 22:01.44 | MentalPower | so you can go to wdn to re-use that code |
| 22:02.27 | cog|work | foxlit: are you just trying to test the macro options of a single command? |
| 22:02.45 | foxlit | Potentially multiple commands, but I'd settle for something simplistic |
| 22:03.45 | cog|work | Well, you could parse each line yourself with SecureCmdOptionParse (iirc) |
| 22:04.06 | cog|work | but that wouldn't get you very far with sequences... |
| 22:05.52 | cog|work | is there still GetActionFromMacroText? |
| 22:06.06 | foxlit | nil |
| 22:06.36 | cog|work | :( they removed it in 2.2 |
| 22:07.58 | foxlit | So, basically, there's no good way to determine what a securebutton with macrotext will do |
| 22:08.22 | MentalPower | you can copy that function from the 2.2 code |
| 22:08.29 | cog|work | it was an API |
| 22:08.34 | MentalPower | oh? |
| 22:08.37 | MentalPower | nm then |
| 22:08.49 | MentalPower | thought it was a Lua function |
| 22:09.01 | cog|work | it was used in Lua before they moved some stuff C-side |
| 22:09.15 | cog|work | and i guess they eliminated it as "fluff" |
| 22:10.14 | Fin | looks around for cladhaire |
| 22:11.30 | cog|work | Fin: check his office ;) |
| 22:12.04 | Fin | I would if I could! |
| 22:12.11 | Fin | oh! |
| 22:12.12 | Fin | I see :) |
| 22:12.16 | Duman | hah |
| 22:12.17 | cog|work | :P |
| 22:12.22 | Duman | I was wondering why cog wasn't green in that thread |
| 22:12.25 | Duman | damn necros |
| 22:12.36 | Duman | and then they guy gets attitude |
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| 22:14.07 | Fin | ta cog |
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| 22:19.33 | art3mis | http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/sma/488443834.html |
| 22:20.12 | Shirik | :< |
| 22:20.20 | Shirik | My +healing goes down by 380 when I have malchazeen out |
| 22:20.51 | art3mis | you should get pants without a broken zipper then ;P |
| 22:21.05 | Shirik | >< |
| 22:21.38 | art3mis | does your stamnia go up when "malchazeen" is out? |
| 22:23.07 | cog|work | Duman: better? ;) |
| 22:23.46 | Shirik | no art3mis my stamina goes down too |
| 22:23.48 | Shirik | it's sad |
| 22:25.06 | art3mis | poor little guy |
| 22:26.01 | Nechckn | Shirik you know, there are pills now that can help with all that =) |
| 22:29.33 | MentalPower | is "return value or functionCall()" still a tailcall? |
| 22:30.30 | |pez| | This is oh so not a good sign. |
| 22:30.36 | |pez| | I start working in like 30 minutes. |
| 22:30.40 | |pez| | and I'm dead tired. |
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| 22:31.14 | nevcairiel | MentalPower: i suppose that migh still count |
| 22:31.24 | Trapnest | hi all |
| 22:31.38 | MentalPower | yeah, my thought too, but I wanted verification |
| 22:31.40 | Amarande | Quote added as #852040. Thanks for participating. :-) |
| 22:33.25 | Trapnest | can anyone help me? i've been searching for one of the blizzards novels, but can't find it do download anywhere. (i'd buy it if i could, but i live outside US and don't have an international credit card) |
| 22:33.45 | MentalPower | amazon? |
| 22:33.49 | MentalPower | they take local CCards |
| 22:33.51 | Trapnest | and i'm searching for "rise of the horde" >< |
| 22:34.05 | Trapnest | well... i dont have any ccard, thats the problem :( |
| 22:34.13 | MentalPower | ah, point |
| 22:34.34 | MentalPower | well, downloading it is not really legal |
| 22:34.57 | Trapnest | erm... yeah, i know... >< |
| 22:35.21 | Trapnest | but it's not like i have much choice... |
| 22:35.36 | Amarande | Trapnest, do they sell prepaid Visa or American Express cards where you are? |
| 22:35.44 | nevcairiel | doesnt amazon sell them or something? |
| 22:36.10 | Trapnest | prepaid cards? Oo never heard of it... how does that work? |
| 22:37.14 | Amarande | Trapnest: they're usually sold as gift cards and come in, well here in the states anyway, 25, 50, 100 values and you pay a small fee when you buy them |
| 22:37.53 | Cide | btw |
| 22:37.57 | Cide | that isn't a tailcall |
| 22:38.08 | nevcairiel | anyway, any bookstore should be able to get the book for you using the ISBN |
| 22:38.48 | Trapnest | oh really? |
| 22:39.29 | nevcairiel | at least thats how it works here, i just lookup the ISBN, and tell them to order it for me |
| 22:40.26 | Cide | yep, that's kind of the whole point of ISBN :P |
| 22:40.46 | MentalPower | lua> function f() return true and f() end f() |
| 22:40.46 | lua_bot | MentalPower: luabot:1: stack overflow |
| 22:40.51 | Trapnest | erm... how can i find out this ISBN? |
| 22:40.52 | MentalPower | lua> function f() return false or f() end f() |
| 22:40.52 | lua_bot | MentalPower: luabot:1: stack overflow |
| 22:41.00 | Amarande | hmm. |
| 22:41.01 | MentalPower | Trapnest: amazon |
| 22:41.08 | Amarande | Am I right that Mechanar is now the shortest instance in WoW? |
| 22:41.18 | Amarande | I used to think it was SM Library, but I'm pretty sure even that is a little longer |
| 22:41.22 | Cide | Amarande: technically that would be hall of legends or whatever |
| 22:41.28 | Tuller | mechanar short? |
| 22:41.32 | Amarande | Cide: ok, the shortest "instance that's actually a dungeon with mobs" |
| 22:41.38 | nevcairiel | mechanar is short, you can do heroic in 30mins |
| 22:41.47 | Cide | sm library is shorter |
| 22:41.50 | Amarande | especially if you have a warlock |
| 22:41.51 | Cide | well |
| 22:41.53 | Cide | not library |
| 22:41.56 | Cide | sm cathedral |
| 22:42.01 | Tuller | yeah well I was thinking of uhh... |
| 22:42.02 | Cide | should be the shortest? |
| 22:42.06 | Cide | or sm graveyard |
| 22:42.08 | Amarande | final mech boss can be painful, but when you have a warlock you can banish one add AND fear another :) |
| 22:42.22 | nevcairiel | we just mass fear the adds |
| 22:42.27 | nevcairiel | priest/warlock/warrior |
| 22:42.32 | nevcairiel | on 20% they despawn anyway |
| 22:42.42 | Amarande | heh, loot went strangely with that boss |
| 22:43.05 | Amarande | the caster helm dropped ... ended up going to the priest, weirdly enough |
| 22:43.13 | Tuller | stockades! |
| 22:43.15 | zenzelezz | Illidan must have won... Outland just went down on my realm |
| 22:43.31 | Amarande | I looked at the priest like "that's a dps helm, not a healer" :| |
| 22:43.36 | nevcairiel | true stockades is even shorter |
| 22:43.44 | Amarande | then I looked more closely and ask the mage "um why didn't you roll on it, that's a mage helm!" |
| 22:43.49 | Amarande | apparently the mage already had an epic, though |
| 22:44.03 | Cide | isn't sm cath shorter than stockades? |
| 22:44.09 | Cide | or graveyard |
| 22:44.14 | Cide | I guess stockades is pretty damn short |
| 22:44.29 | Amarande | Shortest is probably either Mech or one of the SMs |
| 22:44.35 | Amarande | actually, wait |
| 22:44.41 | Amarande | if you add raid instances, might even be Maggie |
| 22:44.43 | Nechckn | anyone know off hand if Hyal has some sort of rare ore available to be mined? |
| 22:44.45 | Fin | Ony |
| 22:44.52 | nevcairiel | stockades is a joke of a instance :P |
| 22:44.55 | Cide | well, I think we have an unclear definition of what 'short' is |
| 22:45.02 | Fin | it's not if you do it at the right level! |
| 22:45.03 | nevcairiel | Nechckn: no it doesnt |
| 22:45.07 | Amarande | Cide: "which one takes the least time for an appropriately leveled group to go through" |
| 22:45.10 | Nechckn | nevcairiel thank you! |
| 22:45.12 | Amarande | which, I suspect is Mechanar, in the end |
| 22:45.24 | Fin | Ony! |
| 22:45.26 | Cide | Amarande: stockades is shorter than mech time-wise |
| 22:45.33 | nevcairiel | like i said, mechanar heroic 30 minutes is pretty short =P |
| 22:45.50 | Cide | how long does black morass take? |
| 22:45.50 | Fin | appropriately geared should be added to that definition :P |
| 22:45.59 | nevcairiel | oh yeah |
| 22:46.03 | Fin | 40 minutes with moderately good gear |
| 22:46.04 | nevcairiel | morass takes about 20 minutes |
| 22:46.15 | Fin | but, you're time limited by the rate at which the guys spawn |
| 22:46.23 | Amarande | Longest is probably ... hmm, not counting raids, probably either BRD, LBRS, Scholomance, or Shadow Labs? |
| 22:46.27 | Cide | ya, but how long does it take between spawns? :P |
| 22:46.31 | Josh_Borke | ~lart Cide |
| 22:46.31 | purl | resizes Cide's terminal to 40x24 |
| 22:46.36 | Josh_Borke | ~lart Nevcairiel |
| 22:46.36 | purl | whips Nevcairiel with a wet and grimy noodle just because |
| 22:46.36 | Cide | full brd for sure |
| 22:46.39 | Fin | fair amount of time! if you kill em quick! |
| 22:46.40 | Cide | ~failrik |
| 22:46.40 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 22:46.45 | Cide | sorry |
| 22:46.49 | Shirik | ??! |
| 22:46.49 | Cide | couldn't resist |
| 22:46.57 | Shirik | what did I do :< |
| 22:46.58 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 22:47.03 | Amarande | Definitely not Strat, otherwise there wouldn't be a quest for a 45 min strat run |
| 22:47.08 | Cide | Shirik: oh, nothing |
| 22:47.19 | Amarande | I don't know ST at all, Mara maybe but I don't think that's as long as BRD |
| 22:47.40 | Nechckn | ST is shorter than full mara... imo |
| 22:47.40 | Josh_Borke | shadow labs is short |
| 22:47.51 | Cide | yep |
| 22:47.53 | Amarande | Arcatraz? I've heard that one takes a while |
| 22:47.58 | Cide | nah |
| 22:47.59 | Cide | only if you suck |
| 22:48.00 | Josh_Borke | ST is shorter than full mara, agreed |
| 22:48.08 | Josh_Borke | or only have 4 people |
| 22:48.23 | Amarande | It's been a while since I did much instancing |
| 22:48.29 | nevcairiel | i put my money on BRD |
| 22:48.33 | Cide | me too |
| 22:48.36 | Amarande | on my warlock, I've only gone to DM West, Scholo, Mana Tombs, and Mechanar |
| 22:48.37 | nevcairiel | or original scholomance |
| 22:48.39 | nevcairiel | that took ages |
| 22:48.45 | nevcairiel | before nerfs |
| 22:48.54 | Amarande | wasn't original scholo supposed to basically be like, Kara type difficulty, anyway? |
| 22:49.09 | nevcairiel | it always was a 5man |
| 22:49.15 | nevcairiel | only back then allowed 10 people in |
| 22:49.16 | Amarande | I still remember the fun I had with Scholo once I got to go though |
| 22:49.17 | Cide | but you could raid it :P |
| 22:49.20 | Cide | no no |
| 22:49.29 | Amarande | we basically kept going after I got my warlock quest done until we could fight no longer |
| 22:49.32 | Cide | it allowed a full 40 once upon a time |
| 22:49.34 | Amarande | most of us were like all red-out by the end |
| 22:49.41 | nevcairiel | heh that was really way back |
| 22:49.53 | Amarande | I still think there need to be additional boosts made to Scholo |
| 22:49.53 | nevcairiel | or LBRS with 15 |
| 22:49.57 | nevcairiel | that was crazy |
| 22:50.06 | Amarande | either that, or the easy way out, just let warlocks use the Shattrath alchemy lab to do that part of the quest |
| 22:50.10 | dylanm | No one does it anymore, do they? |
| 22:50.19 | nevcairiel | scholo is so easy now |
| 22:50.26 | Amarande | dylanm: Scholo is still mandatory for both warlocks and paladins for their epic mounts |
| 22:50.29 | nevcairiel | i can solo it when i spec feral |
| 22:50.32 | dylanm | Amarande: I was getting to that :p |
| 22:50.39 | Amarande | I think Paladins can avoid an actual run if they can buy dark runes from AH, but warlocks have to go |
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| 22:50.53 | dylanm | But I don't think there's anything you can do to make that enjoyable. People just want to get the hell out. |
| 22:50.55 | nevcairiel | pallys have to fight some mob down there |
| 22:51.02 | Amarande | nev: thought that was Strat |
| 22:51.07 | nevcairiel | nah |
| 22:51.11 | Josh_Borke | paladins go for their last step |
| 22:51.16 | nevcairiel | some mob in the ratlegore room |
| 22:51.26 | Amarande | Basically, there's two things I can think of to make Scholo more palatable |
| 22:51.44 | nevcairiel | they're already undead, what do you want? :P |
| 22:51.58 | Amarande | either boost the loot (as well as the loot from LBRS, Dire Maul and Strat) to be on par with Hellfire Ramparts so there's equal motivation to go to any of the instances around that level |
| 22:52.20 | nevcairiel | scholo is like 56-58 these days imho |
| 22:52.25 | Amarande | or add a heroic mode, maybe at level 80 |
| 22:52.46 | Amarande | seeing that the whole lich king thing ties in so heavily with the plaguelands lore, some 80 content there would be interesting |
| 22:53.01 | nevcairiel | there will be stratholme CoT |
| 22:53.04 | nevcairiel | that will be nice |
| 22:53.12 | Josh_Borke | just let it die imo |
| 22:53.25 | nevcairiel | ~lart Josh_Borke |
| 22:53.25 | purl | breaks out the Hoover and sucks up Josh_Borke |
| 22:53.31 | Amarande | Josh: would be fine if people didn't still need plaguelands instances for quests |
| 22:53.43 | Josh_Borke | oh yea! just like that baby! |
| 22:53.57 | Amarande | Like I said, the easy out for Warlock epic mount would be to change the imp jar to be able to work at the Shattrath alchemy lab |
| 22:53.57 | Josh_Borke | home time for me |
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| 22:53.58 | nevcairiel | like i said, scholomance is so damn easy now .. |
| 22:53.59 | Josh_Borke | later fellas |
| 22:54.04 | Josh_Borke | nevcairiel: not at 60 |
| 22:54.09 | Amarande | but then you still have DM to deal with |
| 22:54.20 | nevcairiel | Josh_Borke: i did scholomance at 60 too, and it is damn easy :P |
| 22:54.33 | Josh_Borke | whatever |
| 22:54.33 | nevcairiel | i know its original form |
| 22:54.33 | enum | anyone have a link to creating minimap icons? |
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| 22:54.38 | Josh_Borke | no shit, so do i |
| 22:54.41 | nevcairiel | it was _hard_ back then :P |
| 22:54.46 | Josh_Borke | actually, no, i did it after the first nerf |
| 22:54.52 | cncfanatics | anyone in the EU also not able to connect atm ? |
| 22:55.04 | dylanm | I've heard that. |
| 22:55.09 | wereHamster | enum, link to what? an application or guide how to create the icons? |
| 22:55.14 | Amarande | though you'd think people would LOVE to go to Scholomance |
| 22:55.20 | Amarande | especially with the Arena becoming such a big thing |
| 22:55.29 | nevcairiel | why? the instance stinks :P |
| 22:55.31 | enum | ah, sorry. spaced out while typing, a guide or example would be nice |
| 22:55.32 | cncfanatics | scholomance, why would you want to go there ? :o |
| 22:55.43 | Amarande | um, Portals deck anyone? |
| 22:55.51 | Amarande | that's considered one of the best trinkets for arena, IIRC |
| 22:55.59 | cncfanatics | what does it do again ? |
| 22:56.03 | Cide | uhh |
| 22:56.05 | wereHamster | enum, take any addon that creates such icon and copy their code |
| 22:56.06 | Cide | portals = 10% resurrect |
| 22:56.10 | Cide | that's a shitty arena trinket |
| 22:56.16 | dylanm | It's fun when it works. |
| 22:56.20 | Cide | but not good |
| 22:56.25 | Amarande | yeah, when it works, it often changes the tide of battle |
| 22:56.30 | Cide | ya |
| 22:56.33 | Cide | but you want to rely on skill |
| 22:56.34 | Cide | not luck |
| 22:56.35 | Amarande | I've heard tales of that thing proccing three times in a row, too :) |
| 22:56.41 | Cide | >>> 0.1^3 |
| 22:56.41 | Cide | Cide: 0.001 |
| 22:56.43 | Cide | there you go |
| 22:56.44 | Josh_Borke | bye |
| 22:56.56 | Amarande | in any case, everyone loves the portals deck |
| 22:57.03 | Amarande | and the only place to get the Ace is from Gandling |
| 22:57.03 | Cide | ya, but not in arenas :) |
| 22:57.11 | Amarande | then there's the matter of BGs |
| 22:57.12 | Cide | or the auction house |
| 22:57.23 | dylanm | If you have Spirit of Redemption you get two chances to win, apparently. |
| 22:57.27 | Cide | sorry, I just feel like arguing |
| 22:57.30 | Cide | you'll get used to it |
| 22:57.31 | Amarande | since 2.3, by far the easiest way to get large brilliant shards is to go to DM, Scholo, LBRS etc. |
| 22:57.42 | Cide | who wants lbs though? |
| 22:57.47 | nevcairiel | i would rather to DM for shards |
| 22:57.54 | Amarande | Cide: required for twink heaven crusader enchant |
| 22:58.00 | Cide | ah |
| 22:58.03 | Cide | doesn't twink |
| 22:58.04 | Amarande | hell, not even just for twinks |
| 22:58.11 | Cide | yes, it is just for twinks :P |
| 22:58.12 | Amarande | say you want to level a warrior prot |
| 22:58.23 | Amarande | something like crusader will make your leveling process a lot more pleasant |
| 22:58.25 | sag_ich_nicht | if you have spirit of redemption you prevent me from casting a rez in the microsecond that i'm out of combat while battling the trash in hyjal causing us to have one healer less for at least a wave because improved death sucks |
| 22:58.27 | nevcairiel | how silly o.O |
| 22:58.27 | Cide | well, you don't level as prot |
| 22:58.28 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 22:58.29 | cncfanatics | fuck, my WoW doesn't want to login :( |
| 22:58.30 | Cide | or holy, or disc |
| 22:58.34 | sag_ich_nicht | cncfanatics: mine neither |
| 22:58.37 | Cide | you level as arms or fury or shadow |
| 22:58.39 | Amarande | and make everyone love you, since instance groups are always desperate for tanks |
| 22:58.43 | nevcairiel | login server is f'cked |
| 22:58.45 | sag_ich_nicht | cncfanatics: EU login servers down i assume |
| 22:58.46 | Cide | who instances anyway? |
| 22:58.46 | sag_ich_nicht | ya |
| 22:58.49 | Amarande | ehh, prot has its advantages |
| 22:58.55 | Amarande | such as that you die a lot less often and take less damage |
| 22:58.56 | Cide | not while leveling :) |
| 22:59.02 | nevcairiel | srsly, who instances while leveling these days |
| 22:59.10 | Amarande | nev: melee |
| 22:59.11 | nevcairiel | just get a 70 to pull you through for the lootz |
| 22:59.21 | Amarande | unless you really want to spend a mint on AH every few levels, you better instance |
| 22:59.34 | Cide | I disagree |
| 22:59.40 | dylanm | The gear is nice but it's nowhere near necessary. |
| 22:59.41 | cncfanatics | Amarande: not true, quest rewards are more then enough |
| 22:59.55 | Cide | but you're right in that *if* you want to instance, prot is viable |
| 22:59.59 | nevcairiel | i leveled a dual weild warrior 3 month ago or so |
| 23:00.03 | nevcairiel | i didnt buy weapons |
| 23:00.20 | nevcairiel | only instances i did were with some 70 helping |
| 23:00.28 | nevcairiel | first instance i ever tanked was on 69 |
| 23:00.39 | Amarande | Cide: also that Crusader makes your solo time as prot a lot easier? |
| 23:00.45 | Cide | yeah |
| 23:00.57 | Cide | but we established that if you solo as prot, you're doing the Wrong Thing(tm) |
| 23:00.59 | Amarande | in any case |
| 23:01.06 | Amarande | ALL enchanters need large brilliant shards |
| 23:01.14 | Amarande | because if memory serves me well |
| 23:01.21 | Amarande | BOTH the arcanite and fel iron enchanting rods require a number of them |
| 23:01.42 | Amarande | and I'm pretty sure the only -at all- efficient source is the blues from the top level Azeroth instances no one goes to |
| 23:01.57 | Industrial | So I'm considering going elemental with my (now 58) shammy. Already have http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29931, http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29910, http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29910 from quests (and some other gear from azeroth). The question is; Will I be able to heal instances |
| 23:02.02 | Industrial | ? :> |
| 23:02.21 | Amarande | Industrial: depends on your mana management |
| 23:02.41 | Amarande | from my experiences as a shadow specced priest, being able to off-spec heal in normal instances is a matter of whether you are able to keep it going without going oom |
| 23:02.53 | Falcon21_ | An ele shammy should be able to heal all the way up to 70 |
| 23:03.15 | sag_ich_nicht | [00:01] <Amarande> and I'm pretty sure the only -at all- efficient source is the blues from the top level Azeroth instances no one goes to <--BS, dis a bunch of greens and you get them fast enough |
| 23:03.34 | art3mis | for the most part thats the only major drawback to taking in a shadow priest as a healer |
| 23:03.36 | Industrial | ok cool cause that means i can get instances |
| 23:03.46 | Industrial | which were a problem for my hunter |
| 23:03.47 | Industrial | :p |
| 23:03.54 | Amarande | heh, my hunter is glad to be BS/Engineering |
| 23:04.04 | Amarande | which means he can fill most of his slots with decent purples at 70 without need for instancing |
| 23:04.25 | Amarande | (attack power bonus on the BS mail set *does* apply to guns too, right?) |
| 23:04.27 | art3mis | yeah yer hunter is totally BS |
| 23:04.28 | art3mis | ;P |
| 23:04.41 | Amarande | I never did quite figure out whether straight AP boosts also work on ranged |
| 23:05.14 | Falcon213 | they do |
| 23:05.15 | dylanm | Like Equip: Increase attack power by blah blah/ |
| 23:05.17 | dylanm | They do. |
| 23:05.21 | Amarande | ahh, good |
| 23:05.30 | Amarande | looks like the mail armorsmithing epics are right up a hunter's alley then |
| 23:05.37 | Falcon213 | unless Ranged or Melee is specified, AP is AP |
| 23:05.59 | Amarande | my warrior went Alchemist/Herbalism |
| 23:06.14 | Amarande | which I think will become more useful with 2.4, I'm looking at how good the Guardian's Alchemist Stone will be |
| 23:06.35 | Amarande | and really the alchemist's stone is more useful for a warrior than one might at first sight think |
| 23:07.03 | Amarande | seeing as other than carrying a healthstone provided by a friendly lock, the only real combat heal a solo warrior has is the pot |
| 23:07.32 | zenzelezz | lies |
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| 23:07.52 | zenzelezz | well, not "heal", but there are a few of the +max HP trinkets around |
| 23:08.10 | Amarande | yeah, I'm thinking to "how can I save myself if I'm taking a real beating in combat" |
| 23:08.25 | Amarande | and really, healthstones and pots are the only self-activatable things that a warrior can have that I can think of |
| 23:08.41 | Amarande | so that 40% boost to a healing potion helps a lot |
| 23:08.59 | Amarande | sure, it would help a bunch of other characters, but that would basically be saying that ALL your characters should respec to alchemist so they can take advantage of the stone :) |
| 23:09.30 | Amarande | and one of my goals, anyhow, is to get all ten professions represented among five characters |
| 23:09.37 | Amarande | I may yet have 375 in all ten by WOTLK heh |
| 23:09.52 | Falcon213 | lol, that would be cool |
| 23:10.02 | Amarande | is not sure what my inscriptionist come WOTLK will take as a secondary. :S |
| 23:10.25 | Falcon213 | I'm gonna drop mining on my mage for inscriptions |
| 23:10.33 | Falcon213 | AFTER hitting 80 |
| 23:10.46 | Amarande | I used to have Eng/Mining on my hunter, but changed to Eng/BS |
| 23:10.51 | Falcon213 | so I can still make $$ while leveling and the stuff is worth the most |
| 23:10.57 | Amarande | I have a 375 miner with a flying mount, no sense in grinding mining again on another character |
| 23:11.15 | Amarande | my inscriptions character will possibly be a death knight, anyway, so leveling will be easier |
| 23:11.36 | enum | most will probably do that in the beginning |
| 23:11.40 | Amarande | do you expect a warrior and paladin shortage once DK goes live, or do you think it will be a passing fad? |
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| 23:12.52 | Amarande | myself I suppose it might depend on how the DK stacks up vs. the Paladin |
| 23:13.06 | Amarande | might make warriors less common other than in well supported guilds, though |
| 23:13.12 | Amarande | but hell, paladins do that to some degree |
| 23:13.17 | Amarande | especially since paladins actually LOVE to level as prot |
| 23:13.17 | foxlit | DKs don't heal |
| 23:13.20 | dylanm | You don't really need that many warriors. |
| 23:13.21 | foxlit | Majority of paladins do :) |
| 23:13.30 | dylanm | At least as things stand. |
| 23:13.42 | Amarande | I don't run a Paladin on my usual server though |
| 23:13.51 | Amarande | after realizing "oh god I would need a group for scholomance again" :S |
| 23:13.57 | Falcon213 | I see DKs as being more DPS than tank |
| 23:14.03 | Falcon213 | after all, they can't use a shield |
| 23:14.21 | Amarande | yeah, DKs will probably be tried, and then universally hated except for the few that raiding guilds will be fighting over trying to get |
| 23:14.27 | Amarande | something like wammos in GW heh |
| 23:14.32 | cncfanatics | Falcon213 druids can't use shields either can they ? |
| 23:14.39 | Amarande | no wait, not like wammos, more like assassins in GW |
| 23:15.02 | Falcon213 | no, but druids can't do much DPS when in bear form either.. it's not really the same thing |
| 23:15.09 | Amarande | since they can't tank, and a lot of noobs will think "IM MELEE HEY I CAN TANK" |
| 23:15.12 | wereHamster | cncfanatics, no but in bear form they get like +30% AC |
| 23:15.12 | Amarande | Falcon213: depends on gear |
| 23:15.13 | cncfanatics | Falcon213 can a tank do dps in tank gear ? |
| 23:15.25 | Amarande | a well geared druid can switch roles from bear/cat with little change in DPS |
| 23:15.28 | cncfanatics | they'll just do something in the DK prot tree similar to what they did to druids |
| 23:15.54 | Falcon213 | but I'm saying I don't even think that DK will have a prot tree |
| 23:16.01 | Falcon213 | I could be entirely wrong, though too |
| 23:16.29 | foxlit | What's a backreference in a preg replace? |
| 23:16.30 | cncfanatics | Falcon213, they said they will be a tank class, so yes your wrong |
| 23:16.30 | foxlit | \1? |
| 23:16.46 | foxlit | (assuming I wanted a capture to be part of a replacement) |
| 23:16.49 | Falcon213 | cncfanatics: oh, ok, I missed that |
| 23:16.56 | Amarande | cnc: most likely a secondary tank class at best, like bear druids |
| 23:17.09 | Amarande | there's a lot of raid stuff that you really need a MT with a shield |
| 23:17.10 | foxlit | [$1] |
| 23:17.14 | cncfanatics | Amarande : some people consider all classes but warriors "secondary tanks", I think thats silly personaly |
| 23:17.23 | cncfanatics | all tanks are about equal atm imho |
| 23:17.35 | Amarande | basically ... agh, what's it, Crushing Blows that you can't avoid without shields or 100% dodge? |
| 23:17.36 | cncfanatics | Amarande: where is the shield part important on bosses ? |
| 23:17.47 | cncfanatics | Amarande: druid armor ... |
| 23:18.00 | Amarande | even with druid armor, some of that puts a huge strain on the healers |
| 23:18.02 | cncfanatics | a crushing blow on a druid is not nearly as heavy as one on a warrior |
| 23:18.12 | cncfanatics | Amarande: what class do you play ? |
| 23:18.13 | Amarande | enough to make raid guilds prefer shield blockers |
| 23:18.21 | Amarande | cnc: mainly DPS caster classes |
| 23:18.24 | Fin | I have to say I prefer healing warriors |
| 23:18.27 | Amarande | occasionally hunter, have a low level prot warrior |
| 23:18.31 | Fin | they don't get such large spikes |
| 23:18.42 | cncfanatics | Amarande: I have a paladin, a rogue, and a mage 70, and trust me, all tanks are pretty equal imho :p |
| 23:18.55 | Fin | it's more predictable health drops |
| 23:18.55 | Fin | shrugs, minor difference though |
| 23:19.03 | Fin | (although pally tanks can fuck right off - at least all the one's I've healed) |
| 23:19.03 | zenzelezz | I think DKs will find their place to vary wildly among guilds, much like druids and paladins |
| 23:19.03 | zenzelezz | some will like them as tanks, others won' |
| 23:19.04 | zenzelezz | +t |
| 23:19.06 | Amarande | also on the subject of crits, crushing etc. |
| 23:19.13 | Amarande | how useful is resilience when soloing? |
| 23:19.20 | cncfanatics | Fin: I got a pallytank, the mitigation should be exactly the same as a warrior's |
| 23:19.22 | Amarande | I mean, not that it's useful enough to go out of your way to get |
| 23:19.44 | cncfanatics | as the armor is the same, the hp is the same, the avoidance from talents is also the same |
| 23:19.52 | Fin | cncfanatics: I would love to heal you some time :) unfortunately I've never met a decent pally tank, it seems? it's never been any fun to heal one for me, anyway |
| 23:19.53 | Amarande | but does it give a noticeable boost when you happen to end up with it, such as when you fill in your gear with PvP epics because you don't have heroic/raid epics yet |
| 23:19.56 | Falcon213 | Amarande: well, I wear my pvp gear when soloing on my mage, but that's mostly so I can gank horde =P |
| 23:20.06 | cncfanatics | (paladins actualy scale 1% better with stamina, but, well, what is 1% ?) |
| 23:20.13 | Fin | I don't think they are the same though, are they? |
| 23:20.14 | cncfanatics | Fin: server ? |
| 23:20.15 | Amarande | I'm mostly wondering if resilience would make it noticeably easier to solo elites |
| 23:20.19 | Fin | cncfanatics: Stormrage EU |
| 23:20.30 | cncfanatics | mooo, I don't got a char on that server :p |
| 23:20.30 | haste | Amarande: afaik: resilience is PvP only |
| 23:20.33 | Amarande | simply because elites tend to do such big crits compared to most mobs |
| 23:20.36 | Fin | heh |
| 23:20.38 | cncfanatics | mine are on Khadgar, Bronze Dragonflight & Kazzak |
| 23:20.41 | Fin | well hey, at least you're EU |
| 23:20.44 | Amarande | haste: thought it was based on crits in general, whether they came from players or mobs |
| 23:20.48 | Falcon213 | haste: it still works in pve |
| 23:20.49 | Fin | doesn't have a character on any of those |
| 23:21.03 | cncfanatics | Fin: too bad :p |
| 23:21.04 | haste | (hence why I said afaik :p) |
| 23:21.06 | Amarande | but mobs also have crushing blows, which resilience doesn't AFAIK help with |
| 23:21.12 | Fin | idd! |
| 23:21.15 | zenzelezz | spell penetration is the PvP only one |
| 23:21.21 | cncfanatics | Amarande: most elite mobs that are actualy soloable don't crush |
| 23:21.25 | cncfanatics | at least if your def is max'd |
| 23:21.46 | Fin | you can only max def with regards to crushability |
| 23:21.50 | Fin | er |
| 23:21.53 | Fin | or critability I mean |
| 23:22.01 | cncfanatics | I mean defence from actualy leveling |
| 23:22.03 | zenzelezz | crushability is just defense vs. level |
| 23:22.16 | AnduinLothar | most mobs in general dont crush |
| 23:22.23 | zenzelezz | any mob can |
| 23:22.24 | AnduinLothar | mostly just bosses |
| 23:22.24 | Amarande | in any case, it doesn't look like getting the PvP epic necklace would really sacrifice anything I need |
| 23:22.25 | cncfanatics | if a warrior has his defence at 349 then level 72 mobs can crush him (even if he has a total of 500 def with gear) |
| 23:22.38 | Fin | ^ see correction above |
| 23:22.48 | AnduinLothar | that's not crush, that's crit |
| 23:22.49 | Amarande | I would get a socket and I think some more +spell dmg, the tradeoff would be losing some spell crit in exchange for resilience |
| 23:22.51 | cncfanatics | I'm talking about crushings here |
| 23:23.06 | Amarande | but as affliction, spell crit seems to be next to useless to me |
| 23:23.06 | Fin | let's talk about crits |
| 23:23.12 | cncfanatics | crushings can occure when mobs attack skill > defender's base defense skill - 15 |
| 23:23.21 | Fin | it is, spell hit is the stat of champions |
| 23:23.32 | AnduinLothar | crit cap for a lvl 70 vs a 73 boss is 490 def |
| 23:23.33 | cncfanatics | crits are a plain 5% chance to occure on most mobs, which can be reduced by deff gear |
| 23:23.50 | Amarande | pretty sure the only things I really use that CAN crit are my wand, Immolate initial damage, and shadow bolts |
| 23:23.52 | AnduinLothar | crushing requires 102.7% avoidance |
| 23:23.52 | cncfanatics | and for most mobs thats 490 idd, there are some exceptions but they're not really worth noting |
| 23:24.04 | AnduinLothar | to occlude |
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| 23:24.14 | cncfanatics | AnduinLothar: you mean avoidance+block |
| 23:24.15 | Amarande | and for solo casters, resilience is probably more viable against crits than defense |
| 23:24.24 | Amarande | because the PvP gear gives resilience and +spell dmg |
| 23:24.32 | Amarande | and you need the +spell dmg more than what +def gear, if you can even find it in cloth, gives |
| 23:24.34 | AnduinLothar | cncfanatics: yeah w/e |
| 23:24.50 | JoshBorke | NO! NOT WHATEVER! |
| 23:24.51 | JoshBorke | :-P |
| 23:25.17 | AnduinLothar | if you don't want to call block an avoidance, then that's your deal |
| 23:25.20 | Amarande | actually, one thing has occurred to me as well |
| 23:25.24 | AnduinLothar | partial avoidance imo |
| 23:25.30 | Amarande | will resilience be significantly helpful against Kaz'rogal in 2.4? |
| 23:25.40 | Amarande | it says that it reduces the magnitude of mana drain effects now ... |
| 23:26.02 | Amarande | seems like something the cloth might want to look into |
| 23:26.04 | Falcon213 | Amarande: AFAIK, that's only for certain skills |
| 23:26.04 | Cide | by what? 10%? 20%? |
| 23:26.15 | Amarande | Cide: by the same amount it reduces critical hits, apparently |
| 23:26.22 | Cide | so 10% |
| 23:26.25 | Cide | tops |
| 23:26.54 | Amarande | we'll probably start seeing PUGs for MH in 2.4, so I guess I'll get to find out |
| 23:27.04 | zenzelezz | SR still sounds much more useful than resilience for Kaz'rogal |
| 23:27.05 | Amarande | hell, I'm pretty sure someone had a PUG in BT a few weeks ago even now :| |
| 23:27.07 | Falcon213 | it would still be more worth it to be in pve gear with a larger mana pool and more spell dmg |
| 23:27.49 | mikma | this is curse at it's best!!! http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/11729/ |
| 23:27.54 | mikma | wooooooooohoooooooooo |
| 23:27.58 | Cide | its* |
| 23:28.02 | Amarande | no, I'm not sure how far they got through BT though lol |
| 23:28.14 | mikma | WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 23:31.33 | Shirik | woot, I have feign death as a priest! |
| 23:31.37 | Cide | congrats |
| 23:32.54 | Fin | do you now |
| 23:33.02 | Cide | he's pro like that |
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| 23:33.27 | Fin | I wish I was that pro |
| 23:33.45 | Fin | pros gr8 lol |
