| 00:00.04 | Gngsk | if you do the dailies you accumulate the dust anyway, the only thing that really takes any effort is farming the pages and finding friends :( |
| 00:00.15 | Shirik | server's just like "screw you!" |
| 00:00.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Gngsk: well, in my experience, it takes a lot longer to farm up enough pages and kill the minibosses to get the ~3 shards you'd get in an hourish by blowing through a non-heroic instance |
| 00:01.26 | NightHawkTheSane | SV and mana tombs are pretty short, and 4 easy shards. |
| 00:04.45 | Corrodias | i enjoy breasts |
| 00:11.02 | NightHawkTheSane | I enjoy not having every ounce of bodily fluids leaking out my nose |
| 00:12.08 | Cairenn | can't resist! |
| 00:12.24 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.3.x ToC: 20300 | WoW programming book http://tinyurl.com/2gdel9 | "I enjoy not having every ounce of bodily fluids leaking out my nose" - NightHawkTheSane |
| 00:14.54 | NightHawkTheSane | woo! |
| 00:15.00 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 00:15.11 | NightHawkTheSane | sniffles. |
| 00:20.38 | WobWork | http://icanhascheezburger.wordpress.com/files/2008/03/funny-pictures-i-love-you-note-kitten.jpg |
| 00:21.16 | Tem | so |
| 00:21.17 | Tem | bored |
| 00:21.20 | Tem | fuck |
| 00:21.45 | Tem | I spent the whole day at work looking forward to getting home and hardcore farming CE rep on my druid |
| 00:27.20 | WobWork | well fuck |
| 00:27.22 | WobWork | I just lost the game =\ |
| 00:29.25 | Cairenn | ~comfort WobWork |
| 00:29.26 | purl | There, there, WobWork. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 00:31.27 | Tem | WobWork, you are now blinking and breathing manually |
| 00:32.01 | art3mis | this ubuntu-server releases seems kind of retarded |
| 00:32.24 | NightHawkTheSane | WobWork: http://xkcd.com/391/ |
| 00:32.36 | art3mis | not a single document tells you whats preinstalled and every document tagged as ubuntu-server is really just a guideon how to convert your ubuntu install to a server |
| 00:32.45 | art3mis | like supposedly it comes with LAMP |
| 00:32.58 | art3mis | but the server guide tells you hwo to install the lamp components |
| 00:33.05 | art3mis | that are already sujpposedly installed |
| 00:34.37 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/03/14/captcha_serfs/ |
| 00:38.23 | art3mis | soon you'll have to solve problems! |
| 00:38.36 | art3mis | which could lead to a large drop off of americans using sites ;P |
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| 00:42.52 | cloudwolf | Thank you Cairenn |
| 00:43.01 | Cairenn | you're welcome cloudwolf :) |
| 00:43.06 | Cairenn | and welcome to the channel |
| 00:43.25 | ScytheBlade1 | has what some could consider an /actual/ addon to upload come 2.4 |
| 00:43.52 | Cairenn | boggles |
| 00:44.03 | ScytheBlade1 | No kidding, right? |
| 00:44.03 | Cairenn | nowai! |
| 00:44.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Multi-mob tracking mage scorch timer! |
| 00:44.17 | WobWork | http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b276/schrimshank/commissions/20080313nov.jpg |
| 00:44.19 | Cairenn | faints |
| 00:44.23 | WobWork | fuzzy toes! |
| 00:44.30 | ScytheBlade1 | lol @ fuzzy toes |
| 00:44.34 | Cairenn | lol |
| 00:44.42 | ScytheBlade1 | I should write a readme |
| 00:47.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Of course, I figure, 2.4 will roll around, and I'll upload it |
| 00:47.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Or rather, try to upload it |
| 00:47.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Only to have my hard drive nuke itself moments before |
| 00:47.36 | Cairenn | lol |
| 00:47.43 | Cairenn | so why not try uploading it before hand? |
| 00:48.00 | Cairenn | that way, you'll have your computer fixed in time to be able to actually play the patch |
| 00:48.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Because I have yet to write a readme, or figure out another picture to accompany it |
| 00:48.10 | Cairenn | is smrt! |
| 00:48.28 | ScytheBlade1 | whines about required pictures when a picture of said addon is nothing more than chat in a chat window |
| 00:48.40 | WobWork | post a lolcat |
| 00:48.51 | dylanm | Well what does it do? |
| 00:49.00 | ScytheBlade1 | 20:44 < ScytheBlade1> Multi-mob tracking mage scorch timer! |
| 00:49.08 | dylanm | Sometimes what you do to the chat window is visually noticeable. |
| 00:49.22 | Cairenn | ScytheBlade1: if there isn't anything graphical to be seen, then just toss up a filler image |
| 00:49.23 | ScytheBlade1 | :AddMessage() |
| 00:49.24 | dylanm | Oooh. |
| 00:49.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: yeah, I have in the past, and likely will continue to do so ;) |
| 00:49.35 | dylanm | Well show that then. Who cares? It tells you something. |
| 00:49.42 | dylanm | OR KITTENZ |
| 00:49.54 | Cairenn | kittehz r always gud! |
| 00:49.56 | ScytheBlade1 | http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw6457.png <-- my filler |
| 00:50.04 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 00:50.44 | Cairenn | you guys know why we ask for images though - how often have you gone to get a mod and thought, geez, I wish I knew what this actually looks like before I bother to install it |
| 00:50.51 | WobWork | aw RIP Arthur C Clarke =( |
| 00:50.58 | dylanm | WobWork: Yeah :-/ |
| 00:51.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, I can only imagine. That said, I've always found it comical that people post screenshots of text. |
| 00:51.33 | ScytheBlade1 | "That much text, in TEXT FORM, would be a few hundred bytes tops. And, yet, you proceed to post a 500kb picture." |
| 00:51.35 | Cairenn | if the text shows something worth showing, then it's a valid thing to do |
| 00:51.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Not specific to an addon site, mind you :) |
| 00:51.58 | ScytheBlade1 | (read: realm forums, screenshots of PMs, ie, drama) |
| 00:52.00 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 00:52.07 | NightHawkTheSane | the ptr's arn't up, right? just the TTR? |
| 00:52.13 | ScytheBlade1 | NightHawkTheSane: yes |
| 00:52.16 | NightHawkTheSane | danke |
| 00:52.50 | dylanm | ScytheBlade1: If Cairenn is willing to host it... |
| 00:53.17 | ScytheBlade1 | dylanm: yeah, hence why I'm trying to figure out a new picture to use. I've used my existing one for quite some time now. |
| 00:53.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Cog does a similar thing. "As Richard Nixon is a crook, this image is a rectangle" |
| 00:53.40 | dylanm | Like, for example I think PhanxChat could have a screenshot. |
| 00:53.41 | ScytheBlade1 | (vice-versa?) |
| 00:53.49 | dylanm | And it wouldn't be useless. |
| 00:53.55 | Cairenn | oh god, you wouldn't believe the shit that blew up over that one ScytheBlade1 |
| 00:54.00 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 00:54.06 | ScytheBlade1 | I read the comments on one of his addons |
| 00:54.13 | Cairenn | oh, you saw them, did you? |
| 00:54.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
| 00:54.21 | Cairenn | what a f'ing pita |
| 00:54.38 | Cairenn | I hate people. I like persons, but people suck. |
| 00:54.44 | ScytheBlade1 | dylanm: I don't find "Scorch x5 applied to (mobname here)" interesting enough to merit a screenshot :) |
| 00:54.47 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 unable to validate game version error? wtf? |
| 00:54.49 | dylanm | SO INTERESTING |
| 00:54.50 | ScytheBlade1 | dylanm: I write readme files for a reason :) |
| 00:54.58 | dylanm | I would read the unabridged version. |
| 00:55.09 | dylanm | By candlelight. |
| 00:55.26 | ScytheBlade1 | opens up the gimp and thinks |
| 00:56.43 | ScytheBlade1 | cackles |
| 00:57.11 | ScytheBlade1 | makes a rectangle... |
| 00:57.22 | Cairenn | oh crap, here we go .... |
| 00:57.28 | Cairenn | pokes ScytheBlade1 |
| 00:57.31 | Fin | Industrial: ping |
| 00:57.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: all in good time |
| 01:00.27 | cloudwolf | well i think my server just crashed again |
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| 01:01.43 | Guillotine | So Scythe, did you make that addon you were talking about? |
| 01:02.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Guillotine: not yet, the chat code is more complicated than I wanted it to be :( |
| 01:02.29 | Shirik | anyone remember that site that was linked a while ago that rates your gear, etc? |
| 01:03.30 | batrick | hi friends |
| 01:04.10 | foxlit | Shirik: going by the description, http://be.imba.hu/ |
| 01:04.17 | Shirik | that's it <3 |
| 01:04.22 | ScytheBlade1 | cackles |
| 01:05.24 | foxlit | It appears to be somewhat silly |
| 01:05.30 | Shirik | !c us drenden kimina |
| 01:05.39 | Shirik | hm, it doesn't seem to want to read the armory |
| 01:05.54 | Shirik | something's broked |
| 01:06.15 | batrick | armory is probably lagging |
| 01:07.21 | bleeter | that's nothing |
| 01:07.32 | bleeter | someone managed to post in CSF from the Mekkatorque realm |
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| 01:08.59 | Shirik | mekkatorque? |
| 01:09.03 | bleeter | which of course doesn't exist |
| 01:09.03 | batrick | wow the new xkcd is really good |
| 01:09.10 | batrick | well new/old |
| 01:09.17 | bleeter | Shirik: yeah, a non-existant realm |
| 01:09.24 | Shirik | ?? |
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| 01:10.51 | deltron | http://xkcd.com/396/ lol |
| 01:11.58 | bleeter | Shirik: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5287376869&sid=1 |
| 01:12.41 | batrick | http://blag.xkcd.com/ read the whole electric skateboard blog lol |
| 01:12.43 | Shirik | lol@ the blue response |
| 01:17.05 | cloudwolf | BANANA PHONE |
| 01:17.06 | cloudwolf | >.> |
| 01:17.22 | cloudwolf | any one else getting insane lag in wow? |
| 01:18.16 | ScytheBlade1 | lol @ the XKCD blog post |
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| 01:21.09 | deltron | yeah cloudwolf |
| 01:21.53 | deltron | lol bleeter |
| 01:23.04 | art3mis | ut you really need lasers for this regular light spreads out too fast. Maybe a set of lasing cavities orbiting the sun
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| 01:23.04 | art3mis | Supplemented by a Dyson sphere
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| 01:23.04 | art3mis | And since by this point well probably have found aliens
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| 01:23.05 | art3mis | Why settle for interstellar communication when you can have interstellar war? And we could modulate the beam to carry a message in this case, FUCK YOU GUYS! |
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| 01:24.57 | Atriace | Why bother with galactic conquest when you can do it from the comfort of your computer? |
| 01:25.49 | WobWork | Atriace: Lets play a game. Of global thermonuclear war |
| 01:26.02 | Atriace | dang. You played that text game too? |
| 01:26.41 | Shirik | FIRE ZE MISSILIES! |
| 01:26.52 | Cairenn | but I am le tired! |
| 01:27.06 | Shirik | well, take a nap. THEN FIRE ZE MISSILES |
| 01:28.43 | WobWork | wtf mate? |
| 01:28.59 | Tem | WobWork, I just lost the game |
| 01:29.02 | art3mis | prepares to launch all Zig. |
| 01:29.37 | Cairenn | for great justice! |
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| 01:31.11 | Atriace | Ohway oesnay! Itsway ethay issilesmay! |
| 01:33.44 | Shirik | ethay? |
| 01:33.47 | Shirik | Is that correct? |
| 01:35.00 | art3mis | did anyone read that in jar jar's voice? |
| 01:35.53 | art3mis | i think instead of ftw |
| 01:36.03 | art3mis | we all need to start using fgj |
| 01:36.16 | art3mis | just to see how long it takes for people to catch on |
| 01:36.42 | art3mis | convieniently it can also stand for "fuckin' good job" |
| 01:37.14 | Shirik | anyone know the page for the alerts on the login screen of wow? |
| 01:37.23 | art3mis | its in the mpq |
| 01:37.44 | art3mis | load up the mpq viewer thing and search for index |
| 01:37.46 | Shirik | too hard to open |
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| 01:38.26 | NightHawkTheSane | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert |
| 01:38.53 | art3mis | not launcher |
| 01:38.55 | bongokazoo12 | hey everybody |
| 01:39.11 | NightHawkTheSane | it worked fine for me, art3mis |
| 01:39.17 | art3mis | oh neat |
| 01:39.30 | art3mis | it used to be named something else back when i was messing with it |
| 01:39.57 | bongokazoo12 | is anyone in here experienced with create map addons? |
| 01:39.59 | Shirik | hm, doesn't say anything about our realm |
| 01:40.07 | Shirik | wonder wtf is going on with our bank |
| 01:40.10 | bongokazoo12 | creating* |
| 01:41.02 | Shirik | ~asktoask |
| 01:41.03 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 01:41.25 | art3mis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1czBcnX1Ww |
| 01:41.29 | art3mis | ^^ friggin amazing |
| 01:42.17 | bongokazoo12 | I have some wow leveling guides that currently work with Cartographer, but I'm looking to make the guides 100% in-game to make them easier to use |
| 01:42.46 | bongokazoo12 | I'm looking for someone who is interested in taking on this project |
| 01:44.17 | batrick | that is pretty impressive |
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| 01:44.25 | art3mis | yeah |
| 01:44.28 | batrick | but the noise it makes is pretty fucking annoying |
| 01:44.32 | art3mis | the kick stumble catch |
| 01:44.38 | art3mis | the fact it didnt fall at all on the ice |
| 01:44.45 | art3mis | the horse mimic gaight |
| 01:44.48 | batrick | i thought for sure it was screwed |
| 01:44.56 | art3mis | thas just crazy |
| 01:45.19 | art3mis | and thats with a 250lb payload on it and it weighing 340lbs |
| 01:45.41 | Atriace | bongokazoo12: Have you considered learning Lua and doing it yourself? There's plenty of documentation on wowwiki to make that possible. |
| 01:46.26 | bongokazoo12 | I have thought about it, but I don't have the time or patience to try and learn to do that. I don't know anything about rogramming :-( |
| 01:46.28 | art3mis | and he's essentially mimicing that quest thingy thrae made |
| 01:47.04 | art3mis | technically all you'd need to do is ad the cart map locs and modify the quest thingy's source to make it more complete and race conscious |
| 01:47.27 | Atriace | You exponentially increase the chances of it happening if you do it yourself. Like they say, "if you want something done right, do it yourself." |
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| 01:49.29 | bongokazoo12 | well, I would like to make it unique to my guides. Basically I want something similar to Cartographer with the note system, but also a sidebar ont he World Map that actually displays my written guides and allows each step to be clickable to display the map note and make it glow, instead of having all the map notes displayed at once. |
| 01:50.05 | bongokazoo12 | And when the step is completed, they can check a box next to the step and the step disappears. Then a simple dropdown menu to organize each section to make navigation easier |
| 01:52.47 | bongokazoo12 | Anyone care to guess how long it would take to create an addon like that? Currently, I have a budget of $4000 to start |
| 01:53.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Boo |
| 01:53.50 | ScytheBlade1 | wtb test realm with NPCs on it |
| 01:55.11 | Shirik | so apparently warlock fear now works on onyxia |
| 01:55.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Wait, huh? |
| 01:55.44 | art3mis | shirik scroll up and watch the robot |
| 01:55.51 | art3mis | my wife had to stop watching |
| 01:56.01 | Shirik | it's what I'm being told |
| 01:56.05 | art3mis | cuz she was feelign empahy for a robot when it stumbles on the ice |
| 01:56.08 | Shirik | warlock fears now work on ony |
| 01:56.15 | art3mis | bahahahahaha |
| 01:56.30 | JoshBorke | bongokazoo12: it could be done for that amount |
| 01:57.45 | JoshBorke | wow, i can't believe it didn't fall |
| 01:58.08 | bongokazoo12 | JoshBorke: do you think you could do what I'm talking about? |
| 01:58.24 | JoshBorke | me? no, i have a job that eats up all of my time |
| 01:58.45 | bongokazoo12 | alright |
| 01:58.50 | JoshBorke | i don't know that you could find some one that will do it for that either |
| 01:59.04 | JoshBorke | i get the feeling from hanging out here that people are against pay for mods |
| 01:59.30 | bongokazoo12 | i see |
| 01:59.41 | Atriace | Well... paying for a mod, yes. Being paid to do a mod, I wouldn't say that's bad. |
| 01:59.56 | JoshBorke | no, but i believe in this situation they are tied together |
| 02:00.25 | JoshBorke | anyway, i'm off to bed |
| 02:00.27 | JoshBorke | guten nacht |
| 02:00.27 | Atriace | Ah... well, leveling guides usually do charge, don't they. |
| 02:00.33 | bongokazoo12 | yes |
| 02:01.53 | Nechckn | bongokazoo12 I may know someone who could help you out... checking to see if they're around. |
| 02:02.03 | Cairenn | bongokazoo12: have you looked at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7674-TourGuide.html or http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7631-AzuarcsLevelingGuide.html |
| 02:02.39 | ZealotOnAStick | What would you say are probably the most lucrative money-making professions to take on a new character? I was thinking of two gathering profs . . . mining/skinning? herb/mining? |
| 02:03.15 | Nechckn | mining and skinning usually mesh well ZealotOnAStick |
| 02:03.25 | Nechckn | since you can't have herb/mining up at once |
| 02:04.04 | bongokazoo12 | Cairenn: I have seen those, but I'm looking to make something that ties the written portion to the map so they can simply click a step and instantly be shown on the map where to go. Basically a mixture of MetaMap and Cartographer if you will |
| 02:04.07 | Nechckn | I usually run all my guys up with min/skin or herb/skin |
| 02:04.13 | bongokazoo12 | i would go skinning/mining |
| 02:04.18 | Nechckn | both do pretty well, with mining better |
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| 02:05.33 | Cairenn | so basically LightHeaded (http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7017-LightHeaded.html ) + TomTom ( http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7032-TomTom.html )? |
| 02:07.01 | Cairenn | just a little piece of advice to anyone that is considering doing this (on both sides of the equation, both coder and person requesting code) - make sure you have a written agreement that covers everything, including copyright, ownership, maintenance, etc |
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| 02:12.15 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge is Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.3.x ToC: 20300 | WoW programming book http://tinyurl.com/2gdel9 | "I enjoy not having every ounce of bodily fluids leaking out my nose" - NightHawkTheSane |
| 02:12.22 | Cairenn | what about for resume/CV purposes? would you allow the author the right to say that yes they did in fact write this code |
| 02:12.27 | Cairenn | etc |
| 02:12.48 | Cairenn | these are all the sorts of things that both sides need to think about when you take it from "hobby" to "work" |
| 02:13.49 | Fin | incidentally, a nice site to find information about this sort of thing - and possibly both find work as a coder, or (and? :) find coders themselves, is Rent A Coder: http://www.rentacoder.com/ |
| 02:13.50 | bongokazoo12 | hmm, i would want to say not publicly, but if for a resume for a job, that would be fine. I don't really know if you can have one without the other or not |
| 02:14.06 | Fin | the site provides an awesome service, they really earn their cut in my opinion |
| 02:14.09 | Cairenn | (in case you hadn't noticed, I *don't* have a problem with someone getting paid to write a mod) |
| 02:14.20 | bongokazoo12 | Fin: Thank you, yes I've been checking out that site actually :-) |
| 02:14.21 | Cairenn | Fin: nice info, thank you |
| 02:14.40 | ralfWORK | any Quartz users here? |
| 02:14.54 | ralfWORK | I'm trying to figure out how to put buffs on my quartz bar |
| 02:15.03 | ralfWORK | and I'm thinking it's not possible, but I dunno :P |
| 02:15.18 | Cairenn | something else to consider - bongokazoo12 is going to be paying to have this mod written - is he planning on charging users to use it, and if so, do you get any sort of "royalty" on it? |
| 02:15.20 | Fin | it's not just a big listing site, they have lots of different options for how the client + coder interact, they ensure the money gets paid (escrow, basically), there's great information on all stages of the process you're involved in, etc. etc. :) |
| 02:16.09 | Fin | there's one or two other similar sites I've looked at, but they are by far the largest |
| 02:16.18 | Nechckn | ralfWORK Buffs can show.. they show on their own wee bars above the "regular" bar |
| 02:16.35 | bongokazoo12 | there would be no royalties, it would be a one-time payment for the creation of the mod, plus payments when updates are required. |
| 02:16.41 | ralfWORK | Nechckn: right, but I think I disabled that in my default profile :P |
| 02:16.54 | ralfWORK | but I'm on my warrior now and kinda want it back to redo shouts and the like |
| 02:17.12 | Nechckn | ralfWORK yeah... it's pretty clear in the options gui |
| 02:17.16 | bongokazoo12 | at least that is what I'm leaning towards currently. If the coder has an offer in mind that includes royalties, I'd gladly listen to it |
| 02:17.19 | Fin | to give you an idea of the size, the daily update I receive is around 9-10,000 lines |
| 02:17.40 | Nechckn | the options are connected to the bar's target |
| 02:17.47 | Nechckn | the buff options, that is |
| 02:17.52 | ralfWORK | Nechckn: hmm. k |
| 02:17.58 | Cairenn | bongokazoo12: I'm not asking you for specifics, I'm pointing out the things that the authors need to work out with you, it's a decision that really involves no one other than yourself and the coder |
| 02:18.00 | ralfWORK | Nechckn: under Player? |
| 02:18.01 | Cairenn | :) |
| 02:18.25 | Nechckn | ralfWORK if I remember correctly, yes, under Player Target Focus, etc |
| 02:18.28 | bongokazoo12 | :( ok |
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| 02:19.24 | cogwheel | ... |
| 02:19.30 | Cairenn | ,,, |
| 02:19.32 | cogwheel | email from my mom: |
| 02:19.34 | cogwheel | how do you make the emodacon woman face with boobs? |
| 02:19.34 | Fin | !!! |
| 02:19.43 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 02:19.49 | ScytheBlade1 | ........................ |
| 02:19.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Wait what? |
| 02:20.04 | cogwheel | I swear... i'd forward it to you guys if i didn't respect her privacy :P |
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| 02:20.33 | ScytheBlade1 | cogwheel: do you have a link to an addon of yours that contains your "richard nixon rectangle" by chance? |
| 02:20.36 | ScytheBlade1 | I want to show a friend |
| 02:20.38 | Fin | makes a pfff sound quietly |
| 02:20.49 | cogwheel | sec |
| 02:21.06 | cogwheel | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7911-MacroSequence.html |
| 02:21.11 | ScytheBlade1 | ty |
| 02:22.12 | ralfWORK | weird. swingtimer isn't up either |
| 02:22.24 | cogwheel | so... um... everyone show me your woman face with boobs emoticons!! |
| 02:23.41 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 |
| 02:23.53 | ScytheBlade1 | I think the REAL question here |
| 02:23.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Is how you're going to reply |
| 02:24.13 | NightHawkTheSane | cogwheel: no, i will not show you my tits, ascii or otherwise |
| 02:24.24 | cogwheel | "sorry mom but I had to.... XD <Paste of Chat Log>" |
| 02:24.37 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 02:26.49 | ralfWORK | yea I fail |
| 02:26.50 | ralfWORK | wtf |
| 02:28.47 | ralfWORK | oh wait |
| 02:28.59 | ralfWORK | you can't show your own on Quartz |
| 02:29.00 | ralfWORK | boo |
| 02:29.30 | Nechckn | really.. huh. thought you could, sorry man. |
| 02:29.45 | Nechckn | I don't use it for the buffs... thought it showed 'em though |
| 02:29.54 | ralfWORK | well it shows your target buffs |
| 02:30.00 | ralfWORK | and debufs you put on target |
| 02:30.01 | ralfWORK | etc |
| 02:30.04 | ralfWORK | but not your own buffs |
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| 02:30.12 | Nechckn | ahhhh... okey dokey |
| 02:30.37 | ralfWORK | kinda seems like... I got a lot of buffs to keep up on my warrior, thought quartz could help |
| 02:30.40 | ralfWORK | ah well :P |
| 02:31.06 | NightHawkTheSane | I think hourglass is more what you want? |
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| 02:31.14 | ralfWORK | dunno, is it? :D |
| 02:33.16 | NightHawkTheSane | i think, I'm trying to remember if it's a buff timer or a cd timer. |
| 02:33.24 | ralfWORK | ahh ok |
| 02:33.40 | ralfWORK | looks like there's something called buffalo |
| 02:33.56 | NightHawkTheSane | buffalo is a full on buff/debuff frame replacement |
| 02:34.01 | ralfWORK | mm k |
| 02:34.18 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm guessing you're looking for something that'll show your short-term buffs as bars? |
| 02:34.25 | ralfWORK | yea exactly |
| 02:35.01 | ralfWORK | battle shout, rampage namely |
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| 02:35.54 | Nechckn | that is the one thing I use CT mod for.. the buff/debuffs |
| 02:36.16 | ralfWORK | yea, I used to use that |
| 02:36.20 | ralfWORK | maybe I need to dust it off |
| 02:36.25 | Nechckn | I know alot of people like buffalo and think there is even some elk type bar |
| 02:36.34 | NightHawkTheSane | well, i see http://files.wowace.com/ShoutReminder/ShoutReminder-r45821.139.zip |
| 02:36.40 | ralfWORK | I wonder if there's a way to... |
| 02:36.42 | ralfWORK | oh hmm k |
| 02:36.55 | NightHawkTheSane | i've no idea what that actually does, just saw it on the files.wowace listing :P |
| 02:36.59 | ralfWORK | lol k |
| 02:37.01 | ralfWORK | will check that out |
| 02:37.23 | ralfWORK | i don't recall CT buffbar being able to make more than 1 buff bar, do you know? |
| 02:37.35 | ralfWORK | cause if I could put one for certain self-buffs near my unit frame |
| 02:37.43 | ralfWORK | and one for all the party buffs etc in another frame on the side |
| 02:37.47 | ralfWORK | that would rule me |
| 02:37.59 | Nechckn | Hmm.. I think it's only one buff-box, but it's resizable and movable\ |
| 02:38.00 | NightHawkTheSane | you might also look at ElkanoBuffBars, they can be pretty well customized to do what you want, I think. although that might be a pretty heavy solution just for that |
| 02:38.10 | ralfWORK | Nechckn: yea, that's what I'm thinking |
| 02:38.12 | ralfWORK | NightHawkTheSane: k |
| 02:38.18 | ralfWORK | well thanks for the input guys, I'll take a look |
| 02:38.30 | Nechckn | hehe best of luck! |
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| 02:40.46 | batrick | Shirik|Ecole: !? |
| 02:48.29 | cogwheel | ScytheBlade1: I wasn't joking, btw :P |
| 02:50.36 | batrick | Shirik|Ecole: I founda good reason to use numbers for chess pieces |
| 02:51.12 | NightHawkTheSane | random question: If you have multiple of the same item in your bag (say, healthstones) and use one via a macro command like /Use Master Healthstone, which does it use? |
| 02:51.34 | Atriace | Well... you can't have multiple of the same size healthstone in your bags. |
| 02:51.38 | Atriace | What are you trying to use? |
| 02:52.05 | NightHawkTheSane | yes, but you can have multiple of different sized HSs, and they're all called "Master Healthstone" |
| 02:52.33 | NightHawkTheSane | so, the question remains, with 2+ of those in your bags, which one does "/use Master Healthstone" actually use? |
| 02:52.56 | Xinhuan | uses the one in bag 0 slot 0, slot 1, slot 2 .... in that order |
| 02:53.06 | ScytheBlade1 | cogwheel: sorry, joking about what? |
| 02:53.08 | ScytheBlade1 | cogwheel: OH |
| 02:53.12 | ScytheBlade1 | cogwheel: lol, sorry, little slow |
| 02:53.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Xinhuan: thank you |
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| 03:12.50 | ZealotOnAStick | what is the script command to get the name of a frame under the mouse cursor? |
| 03:13.11 | MentalPower | ZealotOnAStick: frame or button? |
| 03:13.35 | WobWork | It'd work for both, no? |
| 03:13.36 | ZealotOnAStick | button. |
| 03:13.43 | NightHawkTheSane | GetMouseFocus():GetName() |
| 03:13.46 | MentalPower | WobWork: yes, but button is easier |
| 03:13.47 | WobWork | points to wowace =P |
| 03:13.55 | MentalPower | NightHawkTheSane's is button only |
| 03:13.55 | ZealotOnAStick | got some damn button for devotion aura floating in mid-screen and I don't know what it's from. |
| 03:14.07 | WobWork | MentalPower: true, since it's mouseactive already |
| 03:14.16 | MentalPower | WobWork: correct |
| 03:14.36 | MentalPower | WobWork: the other way is to iterate over all the frames and call IsMouseOver() |
| 03:14.44 | ZealotOnAStick | wob, that didn't work. |
| 03:14.55 | WobWork | Go get WheresMyCow |
| 03:15.03 | ZealotOnAStick | wau, wowi? |
| 03:15.06 | WobWork | wowi |
| 03:15.19 | WobWork | although it might be on wau |
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| 03:18.39 | ZealotOnAStick | hrm. |
| 03:18.42 | ZealotOnAStick | ok, installed it. |
| 03:18.51 | ZealotOnAStick | I just hold a modifier and mouseover? |
| 03:19.21 | WobWork | use /wmc all |
| 03:19.36 | WobWork | When WMC is active, pressing shift will pop up a tooltip of the stack of frames under your mouse cursor. Holding shift (to keep it up) and pressing tab will cycle through the framestack and hitting shift-enter will drill down to that frame, showing generic and possibly specific information about it. |
| 03:20.10 | ZealotOnAStick | Ahah. bongos class button. Thank you. |
| 03:20.32 | WobWork | no worries =) |
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| 03:31.49 | WobWork | rofl |
| 03:31.50 | WobWork | This is the kind of staff Jesus would use if he could turn into a bear. |
| 03:33.25 | WobWork | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34898#comments |
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| 04:03.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Is it |c or |r to terminate colors? |
| 04:03.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Color strings, that is |
| 04:04.36 | MentalPower | |r |
| 04:04.42 | MentalPower | r = reset |
| 04:04.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Gotcha |
| 04:04.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Thanks |
| 04:07.52 | WobWork | xkcd fail =( |
| 04:08.14 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl |
| 04:08.17 | ScytheBlade1 | I don't see how |
| 04:10.18 | MentalPower | ScytheBlade1, Antiar1: either of you have sample combat logs that I can look at? |
| 04:10.26 | Antiar1 | I have a few, yeah |
| 04:10.35 | ScytheBlade1 | As do I - but he'd have more :) |
| 04:10.38 | Antiar1 | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/CombatLogs |
| 04:10.39 | Antiar1 | Enjoy |
| 04:10.44 | MentalPower | yay! |
| 04:10.59 | MentalPower | thanks! |
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| 04:24.43 | Fin | any windows networking experts here? |
| 04:24.56 | Fin | or anyone willing to have a stab at a routing issue I've got? |
| 04:25.13 | Fin | if you could all just line up in single file, I'll deal with you one at a time |
| 04:25.22 | Fin | :) |
| 04:26.02 | MentalPower | Fin: shoot |
| 04:27.06 | Fin | right. well, I'm configuring OpenVPN to connect to work from home. home interface is 10.x.x.x, work machine is 10.x.x.x, OpenVPN endpoints are 192.168.x.1, 192.168.x.2 |
| 04:27.26 | MentalPower | Fin: stop right there, I have no clue how OpenVPN works |
| 04:27.44 | Fin | well, I think the actual issue you might be able to help with |
| 04:27.51 | Fin | it's not OpenVPN specific |
| 04:27.59 | MentalPower | k |
| 04:28.38 | Fin | basically, I have a local interface with 2 IP addresses, 10.x.x.x as the "main" one, 192.168.x.x as another one |
| 04:29.07 | Fin | I want data going over that interface to have the source address 10.x.x.x |
| 04:29.21 | Fin | but it's not getting that, because it's passing through 192.168.x.x as the default router |
| 04:29.21 | MentalPower | Antiar1: correct me if I'm wrong, but from the logs you provided I'm gathering that save from interpreting every single combat log event looking for correlations, there's no way to say what mob killed a player? |
| 04:29.33 | Nechckn | need a machine with 2 nics to dual home i believe |
| 04:29.47 | Fin | I just need to be able to set the source address |
| 04:29.52 | Antiar1 | MentalPower: Correct |
| 04:30.05 | MentalPower | grr... back to the drawing board... |
| 04:30.31 | Shirik | whee http://img258.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fullnd9.jpg |
| 04:30.38 | Fin | it's fairly easy to set in *nices with ip(1) and / or route(1) etc. but I can't figure out how to do it with either Windows' route.exe or netsh |
| 04:30.46 | Nechckn | windows doesn't like to have 2 ips to a card |
| 04:30.57 | Fin | it doesn't mind, I do it all the time |
| 04:31.01 | Shirik | aye, me too |
| 04:31.04 | MentalPower | Antiar1: even if I'm just interested only in the current player (not party or raid) |
| 04:31.10 | Shirik | that's why I get away without a router |
| 04:31.15 | Shirik | My computer is the router |
| 04:31.46 | Fin | the only reason the source address matters is because of the router setup on the office side's network - the routers are already configured to allow traffic through from 10.x, but not 192.x |
| 04:31.57 | MentalPower | I do it all the time too, virtualPC assigns an IP to every virual machine running |
| 04:32.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: That is INCREDIBLE. |
| 04:32.05 | Shirik | isn'ti t?! |
| 04:32.10 | Shirik | I thought it was hilarious |
| 04:32.15 | Nechckn | oh not saying you can't... nvm... |
| 04:32.24 | ScytheBlade1 | I have a resto. It's outright incredible. |
| 04:32.52 | Fin | oh hey! they credited me at the bottom of that drood thing! that as nice of them |
| 04:32.57 | Fin | people do that all the time you know |
| 04:33.06 | batrick | mage is the hardest pve class to play |
| 04:33.17 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 04:33.18 | Shirik | lol Fin |
| 04:33.19 | ScytheBlade1 | @ fin |
| 04:33.21 | Fin | whispers . o ( and you know, I don't actually have anything to do with things most of the time! ) |
| 04:33.26 | ScytheBlade1 | batrick: that was random |
| 04:33.50 | WobWork | Fin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lktd1OBHVI&feature=related |
| 04:33.56 | batrick | i thought i'd get a wave of angry responses... aparenttly you guys are hard to troll :( |
| 04:34.05 | Fin | no takers on the configuring-the-source-address-for-persistent-routes-in-windows q? ah well, worth a try |
| 04:34.26 | Fin | WobWork: is that more Minchin? I've got like three windows open with stuff queued for him already :) |
| 04:34.32 | MentalPower | Antiar1: is it safe to assume that the last damaging event (melee or spell) before the UNIT_DIED is the culprit? |
| 04:34.42 | Fin | WobWork: awesome :) |
| 04:34.44 | ScytheBlade1 | batrick: yeah that's usually the case. That said, I play a mage for my main, and was curious just the same :P |
| 04:34.52 | NightHawkTheSane | viciously unsubscribes from political email lists |
| 04:35.02 | MentalPower | Fin: /join #OpenVPN |
| 04:35.06 | batrick | heh |
| 04:35.15 | Fin | MentalPower: uhm |
| 04:35.32 | WobWork | Fin: It's POETRY =) |
| 04:35.47 | Fin | will in a minute |
| 04:36.41 | Antiar1 | MentalPower: No, not always. |
| 04:36.54 | Antiar1 | Sometimes it's possible to damage a mob after it dies, in laggy conditions |
| 04:37.03 | Antiar1 | It'll be close enough most of the time though. |
| 04:37.31 | MentalPower | fair enough, I don't want to do the math myself (at least for now) |
| 04:37.34 | MentalPower | thanks! |
| 04:43.35 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:44.29 | Shirik | this has got to be the absolute worst thing I have ever seen publicly displayed from mario paint composer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxlCfJGduis&NR=1 |
| 04:47.11 | WobWork | hehe only in mario paint can you get lines like: |
| 04:47.11 | WobWork | -tempo adjusted -fixed minor errors in melody and accompaniment -added extra mushrooms for steadier rhythm |
| 04:48.04 | WobWork | and "..at 1:30, the gameboy notes were a bit low...." |
| 04:48.23 | Shirik | lol |
| 04:50.32 | Nechckn | Fin try http://openvpn.net/index.php/documentation/howto.html#start specifically Including multiple machines on the client side when using a routed VPN (dev tun) just a quick look but that should get you on "The Path" =) gotta bolt! |
| 04:51.35 | Fin | Nechckn: thanks. I have been reading through this and related documents for some time now, unfortunately. I appreciate the pointer though. |
| 04:52.21 | Nechckn | sorry man... I'd help more but power is gowing down here =( Best of luck! |
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| 04:56.58 | Shirik | lmao: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYRLTF71Sow&feature=related |
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| 05:16.26 | WobWork | Fin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2Abqt1dQk8&feature=related |
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| 05:16.31 | WobWork | That man can play |
| 05:16.36 | WobWork | (both of them =P) |
| 05:18.35 | MentalPower | Antiar1: do the *_LEECH events result in health loss? |
| 05:19.11 | Fin | WobWork: that can't be real |
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| 05:19.41 | Fin | mad |
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| 05:28.13 | Shirik | pop quiz: healing priest, vitality or +12 stam to boots? |
| 05:29.09 | NightHawkTheSane | boar's speed |
| 05:29.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Vitality! |
| 05:29.10 | Shirik | vitality is only 4 mp5 = 12mana/minute |
| 05:29.15 | ScytheBlade1 | And?! |
| 05:29.17 | Shirik | which is... like nothing |
| 05:29.19 | NightHawkTheSane | boar's speed |
| 05:29.25 | Fin | for healing gear? vitality |
| 05:29.30 | ScytheBlade1 | In all truth, my mage AND my druid have Boar's Speed |
| 05:29.31 | Shirik | I need the hp too though |
| 05:29.34 | Fin | pvp or solo, boar's speed |
| 05:29.43 | NightHawkTheSane | can't beat boar's speed. |
| 05:29.44 | Fin | it's only -3 stamina between fortitude and boar's |
| 05:29.47 | Fin | fuck stamina! |
| 05:29.51 | Fin | you're a healer! |
| 05:30.02 | Shirik | I'm told I need about 9k health for first boss in BT |
| 05:30.04 | Shirik | true or no? |
| 05:30.09 | NightHawkTheSane | true |
| 05:30.09 | ScytheBlade1 | True |
| 05:30.16 | Shirik | then I need more health :P |
| 05:30.16 | NightHawkTheSane | the more the better |
| 05:30.18 | Fin | pfffs |
| 05:30.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Solution: QUIT WEARING PRIMAL MOONCLOTH |
| 05:30.24 | Shirik | I just dropped it today :) |
| 05:30.28 | NightHawkTheSane | but thats >9k buffed |
| 05:30.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Tada, problem solved! |
| 05:30.30 | Shirik | let's see if armory updated yet |
| 05:30.35 | NightHawkTheSane | so you have some play there |
| 05:30.38 | Shirik | !c us drenden kimina |
| 05:30.51 | ScytheBlade1 | It kind of amazes me how retarded people are, asking why they die so often when others don't |
| 05:31.01 | ScytheBlade1 | As they are sitting there in their 3/3 tailored epics |
| 05:31.28 | Shirik | yup it's updated: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=drenden&n=kimina |
| 05:31.32 | Shirik | I need to get rid of those shoulders though |
| 05:31.46 | Fin | yeah, which are fine for everything they've experienced up until that point - you can't expect everyone to instantly cotton on, for most people that's months and months or years that they've been using that gear |
| 05:31.53 | Fin | and it's consistently been the best availalbe |
| 05:31.58 | Fin | l> |
| 05:32.08 | Fin | not exactly a natural instinct to start thinking about swapping gear out |
| 05:32.09 | Shirik | currently I'm looking at 7371hp fully unbuffed |
| 05:32.29 | Fin | hm, no idea what I have, but I have a stamina set as well |
| 05:32.46 | Fin | I just swap out a couple of trinkets and stuff if I need more stamina |
| 05:32.54 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: thats close to what i have unbuffed i think |
| 05:33.08 | Fin | the Revered Netherwing trinkte is +45, and the Violet Eye one is +36 I tihnk |
| 05:33.12 | Fin | h< |
| 05:33.17 | NightHawkTheSane | 35 |
| 05:33.20 | NightHawkTheSane | i think |
| 05:33.25 | NightHawkTheSane | or maybe you're right |
| 05:33.32 | Fin | shrugs, 1 stamina :) |
| 05:33.33 | Shirik | I'm holding on to the violet eye trinket |
| 05:33.38 | Fin | yeah, do |
| 05:33.43 | Fin | and get the Netherwing one |
| 05:33.44 | Shirik | I considered using that in place if I am short of HP in the end |
| 05:33.47 | Shirik | but I'd prefer not to use it |
| 05:33.51 | Fin | that's nearly 1k health right there, with buffs |
| 05:34.12 | Fin | it's an easy way of swapping stuff around and not losing set bonuses etc. |
| 05:34.19 | Shirik | next question |
| 05:34.23 | Shirik | 6 stats or 15 spirit to chest? |
| 05:34.28 | Fin | er |
| 05:34.28 | Shirik | This should be an interesting debate |
| 05:34.32 | Fin | wait until after 2.4 and see |
| 05:34.34 | NightHawkTheSane | 6 mp/5 personally |
| 05:34.38 | NightHawkTheSane | but for a priest, i dunno |
| 05:34.51 | Fin | I think I got 6 stats, I can't remember for the life of me now |
| 05:34.56 | Fin | isn't there a better one though? |
| 05:34.57 | Shirik | I've always gotten 6 stats before |
| 05:35.00 | Fin | oh wait, I got 6mp5 |
| 05:35.07 | Shirik | but I'm thinking about 15 spirit, and some of the other priests in guild agree |
| 05:35.16 | Fin | I dunno |
| 05:35.33 | Fin | I've tried to find out what sort of regen I'll have after 2.4, and I don't think I'll be able to |
| 05:35.45 | Fin | couldn't log into the PTR either cos of some stupid issue |
| 05:35.48 | Shirik | brb I'm going to go see if Wendy's is still open |
| 05:35.50 | Fin | so, I say, wait and see |
| 05:35.53 | Shirik | I think they're open until 2 /prays |
| 05:36.09 | NightHawkTheSane | fuck you Shirik|AFK |
| 05:36.10 | ScytheBlade1 | iirc he's got 20 minutes |
| 05:36.17 | Fin | probably spirit tho I guess |
| 05:38.37 | WobWork | wtf dude? |
| 05:38.38 | WobWork | Categories > In The Kitchen > Black & Decker 18 Volt Cordless Chainsaw |
| 05:38.47 | WobWork | WHAT ARE YOU COOKING? |
| 05:39.21 | NightHawkTheSane | hahah |
| 05:43.18 | ScytheBlade1 | 01:38 < WobWork> Categories > In The Kitchen > Black & Decker 18 Volt Cordless Chainsaw |
| 05:43.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Whoops |
| 05:43.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Meant to hit copy :P |
| 05:49.22 | WobWork | 8 cup rice cooker with 5 inbuilt cooking menus. Features include automatic keep warm function, high quality hard anodised cooking pot for easy cleaning, LED display and reheat function. Comes with bonus Jamie Oliver stainless steel ladle. |
| 05:49.25 | WobWork | oh man |
| 05:49.31 | WobWork | a Jamie Oliver LADLE |
| 05:49.38 | WobWork | for ... my... rice... |
| 05:49.42 | WobWork | O.O |
| 05:50.09 | Fin | oh |
| 05:50.11 | Fin | oh dear |
| 05:50.14 | Fin | oh dear oh dear |
| 05:50.17 | AnduinLothar | damn. Round 3 I pwned the competition |
| 05:50.21 | WobWork | I'm currently scanning what I can redeem from my credit card awards |
| 05:50.31 | WobWork | I'm really leaning towards that cooking chainsaw |
| 05:50.44 | AnduinLothar | got 7th out of 50 |
| 05:50.45 | Fin | is it a really tender chainsaw? |
| 05:50.48 | Fin | or just low quality? |
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| 05:50.55 | Fin | like cooking wine or cooking chocolate |
| 05:51.04 | Fin | giggles |
| 05:51.07 | Fin | did you see what I did there? |
| 05:51.08 | Fin | did you? |
| 05:51.13 | Fin | did you see? |
| 05:51.20 | Fin | chuckles |
| 05:52.14 | Fin | finishes chuckling |
| 05:52.37 | ScytheBlade1 | AnduinLothar: congrats. I think Satellite will be the first lib that I use in any of my addons. First ever. I don't want to. But the chat code sucks just _that much_ :( |
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| 05:53.07 | AnduinLothar | awesome |
| 05:53.15 | AnduinLothar | what's ur addon do? |
| 05:53.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, that's secret for now. Assuming I ever finish it, though, I'll link you |
| 05:53.40 | AnduinLothar | :) k |
| 05:53.51 | Fin | more to the point |
| 05:53.53 | Fin | what does Satellite do |
| 05:54.01 | ScytheBlade1 | If Satellite is as easy as the documentation would lead me to believe |
| 05:54.08 | ScytheBlade1 | You sir, are one awesome programmer. |
| 05:54.23 | AnduinLothar | http://www.wowwiki.com/Satellite |
| 05:54.38 | Fin | shrugs, I'm not that interested and have too many open browsers |
| 05:54.44 | AnduinLothar | doesn't get much easier than that |
| 05:54.46 | Fin | +window |
| 05:54.55 | Fin | it does |
| 05:56.08 | AnduinLothar | it makes slashcommands easy and adds features like onSpace, onTab, onColorChange and onVisibleChange, saves color and visibility, emulates chat types, allows for custom headers |
| 05:56.38 | AnduinLothar | stickiness, adds helpt to /chathelp |
| 05:56.55 | AnduinLothar | using table registration |
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| 06:10.01 | Shirik | who would do Satellite.registerSlashCommand({...}) |
| 06:10.09 | Shirik | when you can confuse people with Satellite.registerSlashCommand{...} |
| 06:10.12 | Shirik | it's so much more pretty |
| 06:16.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: complaining about that makes you sound vaugely like an Ace person ;) |
| 06:16.15 | Shirik | ... |
| 06:19.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Was Wendy's still open for you? |
| 06:19.58 | batrick | Speaking of Wendy's... fuck wendy's |
| 06:20.17 | NightHawkTheSane | i'd like to fuck wendy... i mean.. |
| 06:20.25 | batrick | all these drive through places only do drive through at night |
| 06:21.02 | batrick | err |
| 06:21.05 | batrick | fast food places* |
| 06:22.29 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 06:22.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Department of Redundancy Department, much? |
| 06:22.55 | batrick | cries |
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| 06:41.23 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: Yes |
| 06:41.27 | Shirik | fortunately |
| 06:42.09 | Fisker- | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:44.21 | Shirik | You are most welcome to try |
| 06:44.33 | Shirik | but unfortunately for you, my powers are matched by none! |
| 06:44.37 | batrick | i've destroyed shirik it's nothing too exciting |
| 06:44.44 | batrick | batbot: amirite? |
| 06:44.44 | batbot | batrick, Yes. |
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| 06:45.21 | batrick | fu! |
| 06:45.23 | Shirik | ~hug batrick |
| 06:45.24 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs batrick |
| 06:45.24 | Kalroth_ | haha |
| 06:47.20 | batrick | shirik u fix that game |
| 06:47.30 | Shirik | no I accidentally rebooted my computer without thinking |
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| 06:47.39 | batrick | i'm really bored at school waiting for shit to finish compiling :( |
| 06:47.40 | Fisker- | Shirik matched by none, exceeded by anyone |
| 06:47.42 | Fisker- | hoho |
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| 06:53.28 | Fusar | Is it possible to get a list of all primary tradeskills without opening a tradeskill window? GetNumTradeSkills() returns zero unless a particular tradeskill window is open |
| 06:53.57 | Guillotine | nope |
| 06:54.20 | Guillotine | well, technically you can 'show' the tradeskill window but move it offscrean to get data |
| 06:54.25 | Guillotine | so that its not actually visible |
| 06:54.30 | Guillotine | but in general, no |
| 06:54.56 | Fusar | Yeahm, thats what the ATSW addon does. I was trying to modify it so it will smelt mats instead of just stopping when bars aren't available. |
| 06:55.15 | Fusar | Confirmed my guess though, thanks |
| 06:55.18 | Guillotine | np |
| 06:55.25 | Guillotine | Night all! |
| 06:55.41 | Cairenn | night Guillotine |
| 06:55.54 | Guillotine | night Cair :) |
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| 06:56.14 | batrick | damn it |
| 06:56.32 | batrick | does anyone know of a good chess program online that would let me make moves for both sides |
| 06:56.42 | batrick | actaully it doesn't even have to be good |
| 06:56.44 | batrick | lol |
| 06:56.50 | Atriace | Man, you are bored. |
| 06:57.45 | Shirik | batrick: Chessmaster 9000 |
| 06:57.51 | Shirik | I <3ed that program |
| 06:58.35 | Atriace | batrick: try this out if you're bored, http://armorgames.com/play/301/fancy-pants-adventures |
| 06:58.45 | Atriace | It's very well done. |
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| 07:04.29 | widger|home | Atriace: |
| 07:04.32 | widger|home | Thanks for the link! |
| 07:04.34 | widger|home | That game's awesome =) |
| 07:04.41 | Fisker- | game sucks |
| 07:04.46 | Atriace | hehe |
| 07:04.49 | widger|home | Not as well as your mom, Fisker- |
| 07:05.05 | Fisker- | or yours |
| 07:05.34 | Atriace | I'm somewhat biased to FancyPants Man because it was one of those "one guy in his room" sort of projects. |
| 07:05.53 | Atriace | We've come so far since Mario... |
| 07:06.11 | Fisker- | your mother |
| 07:08.51 | batrick | it smells like chronic in the ece building |
| 07:08.55 | batrick | coming from the vents |
| 07:09.01 | batrick | think one of the janitors is smokin a blunt |
| 07:10.47 | batrick | ok shirik |
| 07:10.55 | batrick | i think i have the game written down right |
| 07:11.06 | batrick | i just need some website i can check it on |
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| 07:20.21 | art3mis | oh btw |
| 07:20.35 | NightHawkTheSane | fx3b3 is pretty sexy looking |
| 07:20.36 | batrick | no one cares |
| 07:20.44 | art3mis | brainbench is giving away 30 tests./certs til the end of march |
| 07:22.15 | NightHawkTheSane | http://shythumbs.com/coollinks/?a=1&i=college.jpg |
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| 07:25.48 | batrick | Shirik: check pm |
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| 07:49.16 | Atriace | What's this? A BLP2 Converter that works? How is this possible!? |
| 07:50.12 | Cairenn | which one, and where did you find it? |
| 07:50.41 | Atriace | I think it's the one you linked me the other day: http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/2641/ |
| 07:50.58 | Atriace | I took another look at it and noticed it had export options (I was unaware of). |
| 07:51.17 | art3mis | hrm dopdf is rpetty rad |
| 07:51.25 | art3mis | its a virtual printer->pdf |
| 07:51.26 | Atriace | I've got beautiful 32bit files now. :) |
| 07:51.32 | art3mis | and displays 100% accurate in foxit |
| 07:51.39 | Cairenn | not the same one |
| 07:53.17 | Atriace | In any case, I'm glad I finally found something which exudes perfection. |
| 07:53.40 | widger|home | Atriace: You should check your textures out at 1600x1200 and make sure they work |
| 07:53.59 | Atriace | I'm testing them at 2560x1600 |
| 07:54.05 | widger|home | Nice =D |
| 07:54.06 | art3mis | always do editting at max res then rescale ;P |
| 07:54.18 | art3mis | i learned that from the cycircled skins |
| 07:54.59 | art3mis | one of these days im gonna fully skin wow hk style ;P |
| 07:55.18 | art3mis | i might even edit mob skins for an emu ;P |
| 07:55.35 | art3mis | that would jsut be wierd |
| 07:55.52 | art3mis | login to a wow server to find its been compeltely redone hello kitty style |
| 07:55.57 | art3mis | i think people would go insane |
| 07:56.09 | Atriace | Hello Kitty: Island Adventure! |
| 07:56.24 | nevcairiel | good that skins are client-land |
| 07:56.36 | Atriace | The readMe accompanying this app notes that given it's command-line nature, it can be utilized to batch process. Sadly, how to batch wasn't imparted. Any suggestions? |
| 07:56.41 | art3mis | heh yeah nev |
| 07:57.18 | art3mis | didtn they add md5 hashes for everything but interface files? |
| 07:57.36 | art3mis | or can you still skin? |
| 07:58.03 | nevcairiel | no idea |
| 07:58.15 | art3mis | i love the commercial for Army of Two |
| 07:58.39 | art3mis | its almost a complete slap in the face to the us military |
| 07:58.54 | art3mis | oh btw |
| 07:59.05 | art3mis | anyone catch obama's thingy yesterday? |
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| 07:59.13 | art3mis | the daily show had the best comment about it |
| 07:59.32 | widger|home | Heh |
| 07:59.38 | widger|home | Did you see Monday's Daily Show? |
| 07:59.48 | Atriace | What's Bin Laden doing now? |
| 07:59.53 | art3mis | At 11:07pm Eastern Standard time a politician broke convention and became the first potential presidential candiate to Speak to the public like they were adults. |
| 08:00.15 | Atriace | Oh, that Obama. |
| 08:00.28 | Malgayne | That's Osama. |
| 08:00.34 | widger|home | ._. |
| 08:00.35 | nevcairiel | all the same =P |
| 08:00.46 | art3mis | and we'll ignore that john mccain comment that iran is training alqueda ;P |
| 08:01.10 | widger|home | He must be having mini-strokes |
| 08:01.11 | art3mis | despite the fact that they're sunnie and alqueda is shite or vice versa i can never remember |
| 08:01.47 | widger|home | It's the other way around but yeah |
| 08:01.50 | art3mis | widger|home: the bush comments? |
| 08:01.57 | art3mis | my wife was in tears for that |
| 08:02.06 | art3mis | the single greatest soundbite EVAH |
| 08:02.12 | widger|home | Heh |
| 08:02.16 | widger|home | Yeah =) |
| 08:02.26 | art3mis | and that finance guy |
| 08:02.29 | art3mis | oh god |
| 08:02.46 | art3mis | pulling out of bears stern is silly it's just silly |
| 08:02.52 | widger|home | Even the guest was funny |
| 08:03.01 | art3mis | heh yeah |
| 08:03.06 | widger|home | An old dude with a book who calls himself the prophet of doom |
| 08:03.31 | art3mis | oh and i LOVE our new governor |
| 08:03.38 | art3mis | that blind black guy |
| 08:03.46 | widger|home | BACK OFF BLIND PEOPLE |
| 08:03.57 | widger|home | He may be 90% blind, but he's 100% black. |
| 08:04.17 | art3mis | he came out today hweld a press conference and says "i cheated on my wife my wife cheated on me, i figured i'd get that out of the way because i've got work to do" |
| 08:04.25 | art3mis | how awesome is that |
| 08:04.26 | widger|home | ROFL |
| 08:04.33 | art3mis | this guy is the best |
| 08:04.55 | Cairenn | that rocks |
| 08:05.03 | art3mis | yeah he does |
| 08:05.19 | art3mis | if i could vote i'd totally vote him in as long as he was allowed to |
| 08:06.02 | art3mis | http://www.indecision2008.com/blog.jhtml?c=v&m=104625 |
| 08:06.06 | art3mis | ^^ funny bush clip |
| 08:07.46 | art3mis | ya know |
| 08:07.54 | art3mis | barack and bush are so perfect |
| 08:08.10 | art3mis | it's REALLY wierd to be on the train going to brooklyn and haering teenagers talking polotics |
| 08:08.25 | art3mis | and actually being excited that they can vote |
| 08:08.43 | art3mis | or having heated discussions about whos better hilalry or obama |
| 08:09.47 | art3mis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWe7wTVbLUU his speach today for the press |
| 08:10.43 | art3mis | it's actually a REALLY good speach |
| 08:16.51 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:20.32 | widger|home | I don't watch Obama speeches |
| 08:20.36 | widger|home | It's the only way to be safe |
| 08:21.01 | widger|home | He's like Paul Atreides |
| 08:21.13 | widger|home | ... |
| 08:21.16 | art3mis | heh |
| 08:21.46 | widger|home | I'm an ubernerd and it's okay |
| 08:21.50 | widger|home | I chat all night and I sleep all day |
| 08:22.13 | Cairenn | hey! I resemble that remark! |
| 08:22.31 | widger|home | Do you put on women's clothing and hang around in bars too? =) |
| 08:23.14 | Cairenn | as a matter of fact .... ^_- |
| 08:23.53 | art3mis | cairenn is easy to shop for two |
| 08:24.02 | art3mis | Barbie(tm) has TONS of outfits |
| 08:24.09 | Cairenn | lol |
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| 08:27.22 | Cairenn | art3mis: have you ever heard what barbie's measurements would be if she were a real woman? |
| 08:27.40 | art3mis | Movies, they're kind of like prostitutes, you pay yuor money and you take your chances. |
| 08:27.54 | art3mis | yeah like a tripple f or something |
| 08:28.03 | Cairenn | 5'9', 110 pounds, 39-18-33 |
| 08:28.54 | art3mis | it's not like they're all form fitting though ;P |
| 08:29.12 | Maldivia | so basically, she would snap in the middle... |
| 08:29.15 | art3mis | beside you could wear her capris as normal pants ;P |
| 08:29.39 | art3mis | time for me, ni ni |
| 08:29.48 | Maldivia | morning :) |
| 08:30.40 | Cairenn | hi Maldivia |
| 08:31.30 | Maldivia | Cairenn: soo, are you going to order your ticket tomorrow, or passing ? |
| 08:31.47 | Cairenn | ? |
| 08:32.03 | Maldivia | WWI08 tickets |
| 08:32.13 | Cairenn | not going |
| 08:33.01 | Cairenn | Ottawa -> Paris = not feasible |
| 08:34.31 | Maldivia | hehe... well, I'm not going either, have other plans those dates :| |
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| 08:42.07 | Industrial | Fin: pong |
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| 08:50.39 | Shirik | "A character with that name already exists" |
| 08:50.43 | Shirik | There's an error I haven't seen in a while |
| 08:51.00 | batrick | someone was logged in with the name asshole? |
| 08:51.14 | batrick | =) |
| 08:51.29 | batrick | Shirik: check ur pms dammit! |
| 08:51.34 | Shirik | I saw |
| 08:51.36 | Shirik | will fix sometime |
| 08:51.39 | batrick | mk |
| 08:52.37 | batrick | might be a little off, after all those "ooops i meant XYZ" |
| 08:52.45 | batrick | i think i caught them all |
| 08:53.25 | batrick | it'll be nice when batbot can save our games! |
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| 09:08.53 | batrick | --> string.byte("a") |
| 09:08.54 | batbot | batrick: > 97 |
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| 09:19.03 | batrick | --> string.char(64) |
| 09:19.03 | batbot | batrick: > @ |
| 09:19.12 | batrick | --> string.char(74) |
| 09:19.12 | batbot | batrick: > J |
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| 10:28.58 | Wobin | ... |
| 10:29.13 | Wobin | notes the $320 credit on his account |
| 10:29.23 | Wobin | I... don't think I've earned this =P |
| 10:29.31 | Wobin | It's like money from nowhere |
| 10:29.40 | Wobin | Where the nowhere know what my name and bank account details are |
| 10:30.27 | nevcairiel | dont fight free money! |
| 10:31.02 | Wobin | I was going to close off this account |
| 10:31.10 | Wobin | but I don't know if I'm going to continue to get money like this |
| 10:31.37 | Wobin | I -wish- I knew -why- they're sending me cash |
| 10:31.50 | nevcairiel | doesnt it say who that came from? |
| 10:32.35 | klip | is there a way how to reload an addon in game? without leaving and entering game? I'm debugging and it is kind of annoying to wait 20 secs for logout |
| 10:32.53 | klip | maybe reloadUI api command? |
| 10:33.00 | Wobin | a company called 2Evolve |
| 10:33.06 | Wobin | of which I have never encountered before... |
| 10:33.21 | Wobin | klip: /rl ? |
| 10:33.30 | Wobin | or /console reloadui ? |
| 10:33.59 | klip | the second one works, thanks :) |
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| 12:26.15 | Fin | Industrial: I was just updating your regex on my mod update tracker thingy, thought I'd mention it - your original one could've been simplified a fair bit (don't take that as a criticism, just information) |
| 12:27.08 | Fin | ^(Lib.+|.+Lib|.+[ ._]*(ui|UI|pack|Pack)(.*))$ => (lib|ui|pack) |
| 12:28.07 | Fin | (I added "guild" as well - all these sodding guilds who while not *technically* abusing the addon hosting sites *are* abusing the addon hosting sites, and they PISS ME OFF) |
| 12:28.13 | Fin | hmm |
| 12:28.16 | Industrial | yeah |
| 12:28.18 | Fin | I should remove "guild" |
| 12:28.23 | Industrial | no fine with me :p |
| 12:28.26 | Fin | there's all sorts of guild related addons that that could afffect, though |
| 12:28.30 | Fin | like GuildCraft etc. |
| 12:28.34 | Fin | bugger |
| 12:28.49 | Fin | I was blinded by my rage |
| 12:29.02 | Fin | oh well... if you think of a way to filter out those bastards let me know :) |
| 12:29.17 | Fin | I might get it filtering on the mod descriptions as well maybe |
| 12:30.45 | Fin | (the regex thingy is lowercase by default btw, it becomes case sensitive if you use any uppercase characters) |
| 12:31.34 | Fin | juuuuust need to finish this sodding search form |
| 12:33.26 | Fin | I was well pleased with myself for writing the hard bits, or so I said to myself (although the search backend is quite clever if I do say so myself, heh), but, actually writing a nice looking search form with all the right options fitting nicely, and a way of presenting results for no matches, a few matches, a lot of matches, and different *kinds* of matches, without knowing what the matches will be exactly first... that's sort of a pain too |
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| 13:30.11 | Aaroja | Hi can somebody answer me an easy question? How can I send a message to the Chat like many AddOns do at Startup? |
| 13:31.43 | zenzelezz | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("arf", 1.0, 0.5, 0.25); |
| 13:32.16 | Aaroja | what do the numbers mean? "arf" is the message isn't it? |
| 13:32.26 | zenzelezz | red, green, blue |
| 13:32.30 | Aaroja | ah k |
| 13:32.33 | Aaroja | thank you |
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| 13:44.37 | clad|office | smoeone write me a simple irc proxy in lua |
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| 13:50.04 | Industrial | why in lua? |
| 13:50.08 | clad|office | cuz |
| 13:50.12 | clad|office | it would be easy |
| 13:50.19 | clad|office | dont feel like running dircproxy |
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| 13:50.38 | Industrial | also, http://www.suckless.org/wiki/tools/irc/irc_it |
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| 14:08.50 | wereHamster | wow, this is just amazing: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mmVaLp8icoU |
| 14:10.25 | schnoggo | PTR down? or just me? :) |
| 14:10.49 | Fisker- | animal abuse wereHamster! |
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| 14:23.59 | deltron | schnoggo: yeah it's down |
| 14:24.22 | schnoggo | figures - finally got some time for some testing :) |
| 14:26.42 | deltron | TTR is up :P |
| 14:26.47 | Josh_Borke | schnoggo: use the TTR then :-P |
| 14:27.15 | schnoggo | TTR wasn't up for me a bit ago... |
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| 14:37.46 | Lunessa | Not entirely work-safe: http://www.break.com/index/a-completely-honest-randb-song.html |
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| 15:01.21 | Industrial | Is there a "Wishlist" app where I can put items for specific slots (and more then one per slot >_>) on my wish list for characters? |
| 15:02.23 | dylanm | Industrial: In-game? |
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| 15:02.40 | Industrial | no |
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| 15:07.21 | ralfWORK | oh snap |
| 15:07.33 | ralfWORK | I just now realized mana pot injectors don't require engineering to use :( |
| 15:07.44 | nevcairiel | they changed that along time back |
| 15:07.49 | ralfWORK | 2.3 it says |
| 15:07.53 | ralfWORK | guess I've been living under a rock |
| 15:09.03 | Bela|work | lol |
| 15:09.27 | Bela|work | one of those things that makes me glad I grinded engineering on one of my toons |
| 15:10.15 | ralfWORK | also, I think I was confusing alchemist stone and mana pot injector :( |
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| 15:10.40 | ralfWORK | still, I usually carry like 40 pots in my bag |
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| 15:10.47 | ralfWORK | to make that use 2 slots would be a dream |
| 15:11.11 | nevcairiel | i changed to carrying 80 when my engineer toon got the recipe |
| 15:11.20 | ralfWORK | I could see that |
| 15:11.33 | nevcairiel | i had 20 before or so =) |
| 15:11.42 | ralfWORK | I don't carry any more than 40-ish now because the idea of having 1 bag for potions seemed... excessive |
| 15:12.06 | zenzelezz | I always carry 160 heavy netherweave bandages |
| 15:12.14 | ralfWORK | really? that's... odd |
| 15:12.16 | nevcairiel | now thats excessive |
| 15:12.21 | ralfWORK | I carry 1 stack of bandages |
| 15:12.27 | zenzelezz | it is odd, but an old habit |
| 15:12.36 | ralfWORK | I always keep it full though, as much as I can |
| 15:12.47 | Lopeppeppy | I keep 40 Heavy Netherweave Bandages on hand. I actually use them like... during Curator's evocation to get a minor heal off on the melee without using my mana..... |
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| 15:13.00 | ralfWORK | naw |
| 15:13.07 | ralfWORK | bandaids are for my use and my use only |
| 15:13.12 | nevcairiel | yeah i usually carry one stack too, and generally one stack of netherweave cloth that just dropped somewhere =P |
| 15:13.34 | zenzelezz | now the most funny part about my bandage stacks is that I swear 6 of the 8 are months old |
| 15:13.34 | dru_ | wow. I burn through bandages in raid runs at a rapid pace. |
| 15:13.42 | zenzelezz | I use them like... to bandage warlocks while waiting to tank Hydross |
| 15:13.45 | Lopeppeppy | I'm a sneaky nasty holydin, I don't waste mana if we're in a "break" time. I use most of them on rogues. |
| 15:13.46 | ralfWORK | because no one in the raid knows when I'm bandaiding them |
| 15:13.50 | dru_ | usually on the fool rogues, but that's another story |
| 15:13.56 | ralfWORK | so they walk away after 2 ticks |
| 15:14.24 | dru_ | I think netherweave nets should work on friendlies too |
| 15:14.31 | ralfWORK | that would be awesome |
| 15:14.35 | dru_ | net + bandaid on the farking rogues |
| 15:14.39 | ralfWORK | HAHAHAHAH |
| 15:14.40 | ralfWORK | yep |
| 15:14.48 | ralfWORK | you know, I have *never* used a net |
| 15:14.57 | dru_ | enahncements shammies too. |
| 15:15.00 | ralfWORK | I should probably try using them on my focus targets |
| 15:15.03 | ralfWORK | when the CC breaks |
| 15:15.14 | dru_ | ralfWORK: I love nets, and I'm a Frost Mage :-) |
| 15:15.35 | ralfWORK | cause getting 1-shotted by my MC target on the last pull before Nalorakk = suck |
| 15:15.57 | dru_ | great for pvp and pve. range nova with teh elemental, mage nova at melee range, and net when that breaks |
| 15:16.25 | Lopeppeppy | Nets are awesome for Vashj, to keep the striders a bit contained. |
| 15:16.37 | ralfWORK | how do they work on level 71-72 mobs though? |
| 15:16.44 | ralfWORK | it says they are "unreliable" |
| 15:17.05 | dru_ | about 20% resist |
| 15:17.31 | ralfWORK | eh |
| 15:17.36 | ralfWORK | worth a shot |
| 15:17.39 | ralfWORK | I'll make some up |
| 15:17.48 | ralfWORK | I've been meaning to do it, but I always forget to do so |
| 15:17.56 | dru_ | Lopeppeppy: which strat does your guild use for Vash? |
| 15:18.40 | zenzelezz | 1) pew pew 2) ??? 3) epix |
| 15:18.52 | dru_ | I usually pick up enough netherweave doing dailies in Skettis and Blades Edge to make a stack of nets and a stack of bandaids. |
| 15:19.01 | ralfWORK | stupid question about ZA |
| 15:19.22 | ralfWORK | is it just me, or do ZA mobs seem MUCH more likely to pop out of CC early compared to say kara? |
| 15:19.31 | dru_ | they are |
| 15:19.57 | ralfWORK | kinda pisses me off |
| 15:20.04 | dru_ | and like the Moroes fight, there are several classes that dispells most cc |
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| 15:20.11 | ralfWORK | yea, I know that about moroes |
| 15:20.22 | ralfWORK | just pisses me off, being hit capped and all |
| 15:20.29 | ralfWORK | to say, watch my MC fail 2x in a row |
| 15:20.37 | zenzelezz | things I've *almost* learned so far on my rogue: 1) don't walk on fires when stealthed 2) remember to stealth before distracting |
| 15:21.28 | dru_ | ralfWORK: on the nalorak trash, we intentionally gimp our dps on the flamecaster pulls. |
| 15:21.39 | Lopeppeppy | dru_, let's see... teams in each of the 4 directions to kill the elementals. Usually a rogue at the bottom of the quadrant, and a hunter or mage at the top of the quadrant, along with a healer. Center melee group with 2 healers. Kite the striders when they come up (hunter) and destroy them. Kill the poison elementals fast, pass the core up to the healer at the top of the quadrant stairs, that healer tosses it to the designated person up top. |
| 15:21.40 | dru_ | we have the mage(s) chain sheep. |
| 15:21.54 | ralfWORK | hmm? |
| 15:22.04 | dru_ | Lopeppeppy: that's how we started it. |
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| 15:22.38 | dru_ | ralfWORK: the flamecasters break sheeps at 5 seconds because of the 300% speed buff |
| 15:22.45 | ralfWORK | ohhhhh |
| 15:22.48 | Lopeppeppy | Not standing in bat poo is hard for people for whatever reason. Dumb bunniez. |
| 15:22.49 | ralfWORK | the ones on the way to dragonhawk |
| 15:22.53 | dru_ | so the mages have to sheep/spellsteal/sheep |
| 15:23.05 | dru_ | yeah, sorry brain fart there |
| 15:23.18 | dru_ | Lopeppeppy: laf. |
| 15:23.20 | zenzelezz | peppy: casters or melee? |
| 15:23.33 | Lopeppeppy | zenzelezz, be more specific? |
| 15:23.43 | zenzelezz | who are having trouble staying out of the goo? |
| 15:23.44 | ralfWORK | dru_: never would have thought of that. good tip, thanks |
| 15:24.06 | dru_ | we just altered our strat to 3 groups. seems to make controlling the naga/striders a bit less chaotic |
| 15:24.06 | Lopeppeppy | zenzelezz... yes. *laugh* Bastiches need to turn up their spell detail. |
| 15:24.13 | ralfWORK | when I MC those guys, I feel like I'm on crack :P |
| 15:24.32 | dru_ | mages need to be spellstealing that shit. |
| 15:24.33 | ralfWORK | like cornholio, tbh |
| 15:24.42 | ralfWORK | what makes you think we had a mage? ;P |
| 15:25.06 | dru_ | a fire mage can chain cast pyroblasts 3-4 times before the buff clears |
| 15:25.32 | dru_ | 16000-24000 damage in under a minute |
| 15:25.53 | ralfWORK | haven't had much luck with those guys; just started on that last night |
| 15:26.00 | dru_ | ralfWORK: even shadow priests need water :-) |
| 15:26.12 | ralfWORK | seems like MCing them and using that flame voley is pretty win |
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| 15:26.36 | dru_ | ralfWORK: depends upon how good your rogue is on the scouts |
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| 15:26.47 | ralfWORK | dru_: rofl hey now, I'll just bitch someone into joining the raid and throwing a table down ;) |
| 15:27.02 | ralfWORK | we had a jacked up group comp last time |
| 15:27.11 | ralfWORK | and 9 ppl |
| 15:27.31 | dru_ | for ZA? best runs I've done in ZA are with a jacked group make up. |
| 15:27.35 | ralfWORK | lol |
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| 15:28.04 | dru_ | best run I've done yet, was 4 bosses under the timers. |
| 15:28.10 | ralfWORK | we have zero warlocks |
| 15:28.16 | ralfWORK | and 2 mages |
| 15:28.19 | ralfWORK | (in the entire guild) |
| 15:28.38 | ralfWORK | getting that eagle boss gauntlet down |
| 15:28.49 | ralfWORK | have done it with a prot pally and 1 AOE class |
| 15:28.58 | ralfWORK | never thought it would have worked but it was lovely |
| 15:29.00 | dru_ | Feral Drood, 2 holy pallies, 3 shadow preists, 2 mages, 1 hunter, 1 enhancement shammie |
| 15:29.13 | ralfWORK | hah holy ranged batman |
| 15:29.40 | ralfWORK | we are usually 1 prot pally, 1 prot warr, 2 holy priests, 1 resto druid, 1 rogue, 1 hunter, 1 shadowpriest |
| 15:29.58 | ralfWORK | and then like a DPS warrior and a mage |
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| 15:31.13 | ralfWORK | we generally don't stack many classes :P |
| 15:32.04 | ralfWORK | I'm thinking that 1 maybe 2 ppl on the scouts should work though, sounds like you are suggesting the same? |
| 15:32.13 | zenzelezz | LF9M ZA CLASS RUN |
| 15:32.23 | ralfWORK | (we are a post-kara guild btw, not some T5 shit) |
| 15:32.25 | ralfWORK | hahahaahahah |
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| 15:33.29 | Nechckn | ralfWORK Did you have time to review the buff bars and find one that fit your needs? |
| 15:33.44 | dru_ | we are kinda hung up on Vash and Kael right now. |
| 15:34.41 | dru_ | consistantly get vash to phase 3, and clear to vash in a single night, but we always seem to lose a healer or two early in phase 3 and wipe in the 3-10% area |
| 15:34.56 | ralfWORK | Nechckn: not yet, no :( |
| 15:35.03 | ralfWORK | Nechckn: will have to check it some time later :( |
| 15:35.17 | Nechckn | ralfWORK cool, cool I just was wondering which made "your cut" =) |
| 15:35.21 | ralfWORK | :D |
| 15:35.23 | zenzelezz | I find watching female figure skating 50/50... I'm not into the skating, but the figures I like |
| 15:36.06 | dru_ | on topic though, do any of you have a good way to read/write data from a web url ? |
| 15:36.13 | dru_ | within LUA. |
| 15:36.34 | zenzelezz | outside of WoW? |
| 15:36.42 | dru_ | inside WoW. |
| 15:36.47 | zenzelezz | no can do |
| 15:37.02 | dru_ | zenzelezz: grr. |
| 15:37.12 | dru_ | guess I'll have to stick to thi hack then |
| 15:37.19 | dru_ | ick |
| 15:37.48 | dru_ | (working on a DKP management system that's fully live to the web database) |
| 15:38.05 | cog|work | that's not possible |
| 15:38.08 | cog|work | or allowed |
| 15:38.17 | cog|work | mods are forbidden to have realtime communication outside the game |
| 15:38.35 | dylanm | You have to have an outside uploader that runs after the variables are written. |
| 15:38.42 | dru_ | right now, it's using a folder / file monitored file that triggers an external process to push/pop the dkp data from the website as LUA var |
| 15:39.20 | zenzelezz | trigger an in-game update while the game is running? |
| 15:39.23 | cog|work | that's not possible. Wow doesn't write to files until UI reload, logout, or exit |
| 15:39.35 | nevcairiel | or buffer full =P |
| 15:40.04 | cog|work | dru_: Blizzard has worked actively to prevent the kind of thing you're trying to do (the fundamental concept not the overall goal) |
| 15:40.10 | dru_ | yeah, that's why I want to fix it, right now, the master looter has to reloadui before and after each loot process |
| 15:40.13 | cog|work | if you find a way around it, it's an exploit |
| 15:40.14 | dylanm | Nothing is going to be revealed to either side of this communication until a reload happens. |
| 15:40.32 | dylanm | Does it really need to be that up to date? |
| 15:41.16 | dru_ | ideally, yes, because I want the ML to know the current DKP at each loot to precent some of the QQ |
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| 15:41.32 | dru_ | but I can live without it if I have to. |
| 15:41.43 | dylanm | You do have to. |
| 15:41.49 | dylanm | I mean he can update his values before he logs in. |
| 15:42.00 | sag_ich_nicht | LF24M Gruul no more Melee DDs |
| 15:42.12 | zenzelezz | sag_ich_nicht: trinket? |
| 15:42.14 | dylanm | Is anything going to change between that time and when you need to assign this stuff? |
| 15:42.44 | dru_ | dylanm: it can, we've had a couple of instance where it has been needed. |
| 15:42.59 | dylanm | I guess I don't know your system. |
| 15:43.50 | Lopeppeppy | dru_... your ML just has to keep notes on who spent points, and know that if SSS bought something, they are lower in DKP now. You cannot communicate with a webpage in real time in WoW. *gentle shrug* Excel for the win. |
| 15:43.55 | dru_ | (eg last week we had both a TK and an SSC run going at the same time and one player switched between runs, and he had picked up some DKP in TK but it wasn't relfected when we were in SSC) |
| 15:44.24 | dru_ | Lopeppeppy: I suspected, but it never hurts to ask :-) |
| 15:44.37 | Lopeppeppy | That's just... sad bad paperwork overhead, dru_... Excel and officers that are on the ball is your only resource. It sucks, but there you go. |
| 15:45.14 | dylanm | We don't ever run more than one thing for DKP at a time, so yeah I guess I just didn't realize the need. |
| 15:45.14 | dru_ | Lopeppeppy: oh I understand it. |
| 15:45.34 | sag_ich_nicht | [16:42] <zenzelezz> sag_ich_nicht: trinket? <--yeah :( |
| 15:45.37 | dylanm | You could try to have it sync in-game a little but reconciling the two is less than fun. |
| 15:45.42 | dru_ | we try not to, but it happens occasionally. |
| 15:45.58 | sag_ich_nicht | just got BT atuned yesterday and still running around with [Hourglass of the Unraveller] |
| 15:46.00 | sag_ich_nicht | :( |
| 15:46.12 | dru_ | at this point, we only use DKP for SSC/TK, no Gruul or Maf |
| 15:46.37 | dru_ | don't have enough attuned to MH/BT yet |
| 15:46.45 | zenzelezz | sag_ich_nicht: we have rogues who'd still benefit from the Gruul trinket (or better yet the Tsunami), and we're clearing MH/half of BT |
| 15:47.46 | sag_ich_nicht | zenzelezz: durr, it's the best melee trinket ingame :( |
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| 15:49.02 | zenzelezz | sag_ich_nicht: I wouldn't know, I take the spanking, I don't administer it |
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| 15:50.14 | Recluse | what would the term be used to refer to a database table/field that is present but never used? i was thinking "artifact", but not sure if it holds its meaning outside of digital images... |
| 15:53.25 | dylanm | DST is still pro as hell. |
| 16:04.58 | Nechckn | Recluse have seen "floater" used socially, reserved- but that can mean reserved by the program itself, inert, etc... artifact could work, too =) |
| 16:06.44 | Nechckn | unused usually refers to bad, left over fields or tables that folks are tasked to search out and delete to reduce the overall size |
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| 16:11.40 | zenzelezz | that's an interesting name... ToxicÃlood |
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| 16:15.04 | Recluse | Nechckn: "inert" seems to have a "harmless" connotation to it, imo - but such data does (in sufficient quantities) have a performance hit, and may cause issues at some point if one's queries are not worded carefully. |
| 16:16.11 | Recluse | The only term I can come up with aside from artifact is 'obsolete'. |
| 16:16.44 | zenzelezz | left-over, unimplemented |
| 16:22.16 | foxlit | [deprecated] |
| 16:24.08 | Recluse | hmm |
| 16:26.02 | zenzelezz | deprecated sounds odd if the field was never used |
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| 16:32.06 | foxlit | contemplates writing a configuration interface in pure Lua |
| 16:33.25 | foxlit | Usually use XML; which seems to be a bit more concise. |
| 16:33.48 | foxlit | Does anyone actually CreateFrame major chunks of their UI? |
| 16:34.05 | dylanm | I believe many do, yes. |
| 16:35.03 | dylanm | I think the main difference is that it's harder to see the hierarchy in the Lua. I guess you could get cute with the indentation but still. |
| 16:35.51 | foxlit | Lack of inheritance hurts |
| 16:36.16 | dylanm | Yeah. You can just write constructors but it's not as smooth, no. |
| 16:36.36 | foxlit | Miss <Size> as well, :SetWidth/:SetHeight seems annoyingly long |
| 16:37.06 | dylanm | Add your own method. |
| 16:37.14 | foxlit | local function SetDimensions(frame, w, h) |
| 16:37.15 | foxlit | did |
| 16:37.46 | foxlit | Could dump it into the frame metatable for great conflicts? |
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| 16:42.24 | ScytheBlade1 | What was the name of that addon on WoWI with Admiral Ackbar, "IT'S A TRAP!" ? |
| 16:42.31 | ScytheBlade1 | ... lol |
| 16:42.34 | cncfanatics | anyone can help tell me whats wrong with self:SetAttribute("ofspoint*", "BOTTOMLEFT"); self:SetAttribute("ofsx*", 300); self:SetAttribute("ofsy*", 300); self:SetAttribute("showstates*", "*"); |
| 16:42.38 | cncfanatics | my code ain't doing anything |
| 16:42.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Named "Admiral Ackbar" - not "trap" in the title |
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| 16:43.28 | foxlit | erm, cnc, you might not need a * there |
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| 16:44.05 | dylanm | Oh yeah Zanzer's thing. |
| 16:44.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
| 16:44.16 | cncfanatics | foxlit: I tried without too, I also get no result at all |
| 16:45.15 | foxlit | You're not expecting it to reposition itself magically, are you? :) |
| 16:45.34 | foxlit | Either its own or the parent's stateheader has to change state |
| 16:45.48 | cncfanatics | blizz fails |
| 16:45.52 | foxlit | s/header/header's/ |
| 16:45.58 | cncfanatics | when a position attribute changes it *should* reposition :s |
| 16:46.07 | foxlit | It doesn't, deal with it :) |
| 16:46.34 | cncfanatics | thats anoying |
| 16:47.07 | cncfanatics | especialy as all my buttons use the same stateheader |
| 16:47.17 | cncfanatics | so the stateheader will update all buttons every time one changes position :( |
| 16:47.29 | foxlit | You could call setpoint yourself? |
| 16:47.54 | cncfanatics | hmmm, will the header still update positioning if the state changes then ? |
| 16:48.10 | cncfanatics | alternativly, is the OnStateChanged code global ? if so I can just invoke it |
| 16:48.10 | foxlit | assuming it changes state, yes. |
| 16:48.22 | foxlit | :GetScript |
| 16:48.30 | foxlit | actually, no |
| 16:48.48 | foxlit | What you're looking for is TestChildVisibility, which is actually local, triggered by a state change in a header |
| 16:49.23 | cncfanatics | fuck |
| 16:49.46 | Lopeppeppy | with cheese |
| 16:49.54 | foxlit | and pineapples |
| 16:51.05 | cncfanatics | sigh |
| 16:51.19 | cncfanatics | why doesn't the header just call TestChildVisbibility when the damn anchors change ? |
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| 16:53.35 | cncfanatics | foxlit: still nothing shown with this code: |
| 16:54.06 | cncfanatics | self:SetAttribute("ofspoint-TestState", "BOTTOMLEFT"); self:SetAttribute("ofsx-TestState", 300); self:SetAttribute("ofsy-TestState", 300); self:SetAttribute("showstates-TestState", "*"); self.StateDriver:SetAttribute("state", "TestState"); |
| 16:54.16 | cncfanatics | that *should* work shouldn't it ? |
| 16:54.17 | Lej | anyone happen to know how to get in contact with the author of RatingBuster? |
| 16:54.28 | foxlit | uh |
| 16:54.29 | cncfanatics | or am I getting something horribly wrong ? its been a while since I used the header |
| 16:54.32 | foxlit | states are generally numeric |
| 16:54.39 | cncfanatics | they don't have to be |
| 16:55.03 | cncfanatics | I personaly find it much clearer when they aren't :p |
| 16:55.38 | foxlit | But then you can't specify ranges, so it's fair game :) |
| 16:55.49 | cncfanatics | yea, anyway, any errors in above code ? |
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| 16:57.17 | foxlit | showstates-TestState looks odd |
| 16:57.39 | cncfanatics | hmmm, whats wrong with it ? |
| 16:57.52 | foxlit | I read it as |
| 16:58.02 | foxlit | "When I'm in TestState state, I should be shown for any state" |
| 16:58.15 | cncfanatics | true, showstates shouldn't have a suffix |
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| 16:58.39 | cncfanatics | reloading, the error might be just that |
| 16:59.01 | foxlit | SecureState_GetStateAttribute(header, state, attribute) |
| 16:59.21 | foxlit | that's public, may as well check what the stateheader reads your declaration as |
| 17:00.18 | cncfanatics | hmmmm |
| 17:00.24 | cncfanatics | I think I forgot my "statebutton" attribute |
| 17:00.29 | cncfanatics | bonks his head against a wall |
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| 17:01.40 | foxlit | You should probably read the SecureState_GetStateAttribute code |
| 17:01.53 | cncfanatics | I know it by heart -.- |
| 17:01.57 | cncfanatics | its just been over 6 months since I used it |
| 17:02.07 | nevcairiel | reading code for stateheaders is the only way to learn about them :) |
| 17:02.17 | foxlit | Or I probably should figure out what happens to remapped states |
| 17:02.21 | cncfanatics | well, I know them pretty well, I just slacked off for way too long |
| 17:02.31 | foxlit | At the moment, I don't see how "ofsx-TestState" could ever be valid |
| 17:02.46 | cncfanatics | and why is that ? |
| 17:02.54 | cncfanatics | if TestState is a state :p |
| 17:03.03 | foxlit | Because the suffix isn't applied in code |
| 17:03.18 | cncfanatics | you mean ofsx is state independant ? |
| 17:03.26 | foxlit | So either it reshuffles attributes internally (which would be odd), or it doesn't work like you think it does |
| 17:03.39 | foxlit | Hence the pointing to SecureState_GetStateAttribute |
| 17:03.50 | foxlit | I'd expect something like |
| 17:04.04 | cncfanatics | are you talking specificaly for ofsx here or for attributes in general ? |
| 17:04.06 | foxlit | child:SetAttribute("ofsx", "TestState:0;1:42"); -- to work |
| 17:04.06 | nevcairiel | SecureState_GetStateAttribute is a trivial :GetAttribute call |
| 17:04.10 | nevcairiel | no GetModifiedAttribute |
| 17:04.18 | foxlit | SelectRule, though |
| 17:04.34 | cncfanatics | ah ok |
| 17:04.43 | cncfanatics | wtb consistent attribute stuff :( |
| 17:04.44 | nevcairiel | yeah, do what foxlit said |
| 17:04.46 | nevcairiel | that will work |
| 17:04.52 | nevcairiel | its rather consistent tbh |
| 17:04.58 | cncfanatics | some work with a suffix |
| 17:05.06 | cncfanatics | others work with things passed in the attribute value |
| 17:05.49 | foxlit | SecureStateHeader.lua and SecureTemplates.lua are invaluable |
| 17:06.12 | nevcairiel | the code is pretty easy and straight forward |
| 17:06.22 | cncfanatics | I find it anoying code :( |
| 17:06.31 | cncfanatics | I'm bad at reading code though |
| 17:06.57 | nevcairiel | oh well, i can read code and understand the basic logic pretty fast |
| 17:07.14 | bam_ | just ignore the comments.. they confuse more than they help :D |
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| 18:08.30 | art3mis | whats the name of that other router software aside from tomato? |
| 18:08.34 | art3mis | ddwrt? |
| 18:09.13 | NightHawkTheSane | yes |
| 18:09.23 | NightHawkTheSane | i thnk |
| 18:15.11 | MentalPower | dd-wrt yes |
| 18:15.29 | MentalPower | only firmware for v5-8 devices |
| 18:15.35 | MentalPower | WRT54G that is |
| 18:17.46 | Lej | Why does: |
| 18:17.54 | Lej | /script local s = "29.9"; DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(string.gsub(s, "(", "X")); |
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| 18:18.16 | Lej | add X2X9X.X9X to the chat window? |
| 18:19.10 | Bela|work | what are you trying to do? |
| 18:19.23 | Lej | I just want to replace possible ( in the string s with X |
| 18:19.35 | Bela|work | escape ( |
| 18:19.47 | Lej | what's the escape char in lua? |
| 18:19.49 | Bela|work | \ |
| 18:20.19 | Lej | like so: |
| 18:20.22 | Lej | /script local s = "29.9"; DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(string.gsub(s, "\(", "X")); |
| 18:20.23 | Lej | ? |
| 18:20.26 | Bela|work | yeah |
| 18:20.34 | Lej | same result |
| 18:20.38 | Lej | X2X9X.X9X |
| 18:21.16 | Bela|work | loading up wow one sec |
| 18:21.37 | Josh_Borke | ~lart Bela|work |
| 18:21.37 | purl | beats Bela|work to within 2.54cm of his life |
| 18:21.54 | Lej | probably doing something stupid, not used to lua :> |
| 18:22.17 | Josh_Borke | lua> local s = "29.9"; print(string.gsub(s, "\(", "X")); |
| 18:22.18 | lua_bot | Josh_Borke: X2X9X.X9X, 5 |
| 18:22.19 | Bela|work | why am I larted? |
| 18:22.29 | Josh_Borke | lua> local s = "29.9"; print(string.gsub(s, "(", "X")) |
| 18:22.29 | lua_bot | Josh_Borke: X2X9X.X9X, 5 |
| 18:22.33 | Josh_Borke | why not? :-D |
| 18:22.36 | Josh_Borke | lua> local s = "29.9"; print(string.gsub(s, "%(", "X")) |
| 18:22.36 | lua_bot | Josh_Borke: 29.9, 0 |
| 18:22.41 | Josh_Borke | it's % not \ |
| 18:22.42 | dylanm | It's %, yeah. |
| 18:22.51 | Lej | ah ok ^^ |
| 18:23.17 | Bela|work | thought it used standard regex |
| 18:23.22 | dylanm | Nooooo. |
| 18:23.23 | Josh_Borke | lua does not implement regex |
| 18:23.50 | dylanm | It's pattern syntax! It's wonderful for confusing the fuck out of everyone. |
| 18:23.53 | dylanm | But it's small. |
| 18:24.09 | Bela|work | Lua has regular expression |
| 18:24.14 | Bela|work | it just isn't the one people are used to |
| 18:24.15 | Josh_Borke | no it doesn't |
| 18:24.20 | Josh_Borke | oh,ok |
| 18:24.25 | Josh_Borke | right, it's not posix regex |
| 18:24.30 | Bela|work | lol |
| 18:25.32 | Lej | why don't a need a % in s = "(29.9" then? :/ |
| 18:25.40 | Josh_Borke | Bela|work: sometimes (erroneously) called regular expressions. |
| 18:25.50 | Lej | If i want the string to be (29.9 |
| 18:25.59 | Josh_Borke | what do you want to have happen? |
| 18:26.02 | Josh_Borke | http://lua-users.org/wiki/PatternsTutorial |
| 18:26.05 | Josh_Borke | victory is mine! |
| 18:26.08 | Lej | :D |
| 18:26.10 | Lej | thanks ;) |
| 18:26.20 | Josh_Borke | no, i don't know that that link will help you |
| 18:26.32 | Josh_Borke | (02:19:23 PM) Lej: I just want to replace possible ( in the string s with X |
| 18:26.40 | Josh_Borke | lua> local s = "(29.9"; print(string.gsub(s, "%(", "X")) |
| 18:26.40 | lua_bot | Josh_Borke: X29.9, 1 |
| 18:26.44 | Josh_Borke | lua> local s = "29.9"; print(string.gsub(s, "%(", "X")) |
| 18:26.44 | lua_bot | Josh_Borke: 29.9, 0 |
| 18:26.54 | Bela|work | I can think of them as a form of regular expression, since regular expression is in fact a pattern matching syntax as well |
| 18:27.08 | Josh_Borke | you can think whatever you want to bela :-D |
| 18:27.18 | Josh_Borke | as long as you keep wdnaddons up to date :-D |
| 18:27.24 | Bela|work | it is |
| 18:27.25 | dylanm | You don't need % in s because it isn't being interpreted as a pattern. |
| 18:27.35 | Josh_Borke | i know ,you're doing a wonderful job |
| 18:27.48 | dylanm | Hear, hear. |
| 18:27.56 | Lej | dylanm: I see, havn't really ever touched anything like regex or these pattern thingies |
| 18:28.09 | Bela|work | I have a v3 coming. its just hard right now with only 3 days in a week where I can do anything |
| 18:29.14 | Lej | so I assume it's just the string you are searching for that is interpreted as a pattern and no tthe string you use to replace with? |
| 18:29.15 | Bela|work | its fun trying to juggle wdn, necb rewrite, and a raiding guild as an officer |
| 18:29.29 | ralfWORK | no not really |
| 18:31.30 | Bela|work | the string you are replacing with can be a pattern as well |
| 18:31.36 | End | technically, perl's regular expressions aren't exactly regular expressions either, since they can be used to match things that aren't regular |
| 18:31.49 | Lopeppeppy | Bela|work, you're crazy. :P |
| 18:31.50 | End | but w/e |
| 18:32.02 | Bela|work | yes, yes I am |
| 18:32.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Bela|work: just stop sleeping. Problem solved. |
| 18:32.48 | Bela|work | sleep? whats that? |
| 18:32.52 | Bela|work | I ahd a kid remember? |
| 18:32.57 | ScytheBlade1 | I see you're already part way there! |
| 18:33.06 | Cairenn | Bela|work: how IS the little one? what's the latest? |
| 18:33.08 | dylanm | Teach him Lua fast. |
| 18:33.27 | ScytheBlade1 | lol, yes |
| 18:33.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Teach him lua |
| 18:33.33 | Bela|work | still in the hospital. but they have him out of the isolette and is taking bottles every other feeding |
| 18:33.41 | Cairenn | nice |
| 18:33.44 | Bela|work | probably another 2 weeks before he comes home |
| 18:33.49 | dylanm | He okay? |
| 18:33.53 | Bela|work | premature |
| 18:34.00 | Bela|work | but he isn't sick |
| 18:34.01 | Cairenn | still, out of the isolette is a big step |
| 18:34.33 | dylanm | :) |
| 18:34.36 | Bela|work | I showed him a murloc picture and he smiled |
| 18:34.46 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 18:34.49 | dylanm | Haha. |
| 18:34.50 | Bela|work | gotta start young on the wow train |
| 18:35.02 | dylanm | Oh God if that's his first doll |
| 18:35.07 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl |
| 18:35.10 | dylanm | does the government just step in or what |
| 18:35.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Vaugely reminds me of Penny Arcade |
| 18:35.24 | Bela|work | I told my wife she better start playing now, so she gets quality time with both of us when he is older |
| 18:35.31 | Bela|work | she didn't like that |
| 18:35.32 | Industrial | lol |
| 18:35.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Where gabe (iirc) taught his son the murloc noise |
| 18:35.45 | ScytheBlade1 | " |
| 18:35.53 | Bela|work | hey thats a good idea! |
| 18:35.59 | ScytheBlade1 | "What does a murloc say?" "mrrruuugglllll" came the reply |
| 18:36.11 | Bela|work | he already makes little grunting noises |
| 18:36.15 | Bela|work | maybe he is an orc |
| 18:36.16 | ScytheBlade1 | "I think he'll be disappointed on our first trip to the zoo, when he realizes that murlocs don't really exist." |
| 18:37.15 | dylanm | http://www.penny-arcade.com/2006/06/16 |
| 18:37.16 | ralfWORK | :D |
| 18:37.16 | dylanm | Hehe. |
| 18:37.33 | ScytheBlade1 | That's it |
| 18:37.54 | ralfWORK | I make the murloc sound in the shower every day |
| 18:39.32 | ralfWORK | lol http://www.penny-arcade.com/pa_shoryuken.jpg |
| 18:40.23 | Bela|work | oh gawd, must have.... |
| 18:41.14 | ralfWORK | anyone here S3 users? |
| 18:41.38 | ralfWORK | been trying to copy this fricking 1gb file to S3 and it just isn't getting done |
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| 18:45.46 | NightHawkTheSane | this is brilliant. http://www.abyssandapex.com/200710-wikihistory.html |
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| 18:46.39 | ralfWORK | huh? |
| 18:49.37 | Maldivia | nevcairiel ? |
| 18:49.43 | nevcairiel | ? |
| 18:50.27 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: just a quick question, the green "aura" action buttons get if it has an item on it, and you have it equipped, can that be disabled anywhere (bartender) ? |
| 18:50.38 | nevcairiel | no |
| 18:51.09 | nevcairiel | maybe i'll add a option for bartender4 |
| 18:51.09 | Maldivia | ok - but figured I'd ask in case I had missed somethingh :) |
| 18:51.10 | Dotted | is away (kd3 - whee squid just went splat) |
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| 18:54.45 | Lej | lua> local s = "yes"; if s = ("yeah" or "yes") then print("match"); else print("no match"); end |
| 18:54.45 | lua_bot | Lej: luabot:1: 'then' expected near '=' |
| 18:55.09 | Lej | lua> local s = "yes"; if s == ("yeah" or "yes") then print("match"); else print("no match"); end |
| 18:55.10 | lua_bot | Lej: no match |
| 18:55.32 | Lej | ^I suppose I'm using or incorreclty? :/ |
| 18:55.53 | Lej | Or comparing strings incorreclty |
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| 18:57.49 | Lej | I want it to check if string s is one of the strings "yeah" or "yes" and if so do whatever |
| 19:02.19 | klip | Lej: try if (s == "yes) or (s == "yeah") |
| 19:02.45 | Wobin | yes |
| 19:03.28 | klip | I forgot " after yes :) |
| 19:04.06 | klip | lua> print ("yeah" or "yes") |
| 19:04.06 | lua_bot | klip: yeah |
| 19:04.36 | klip | you see, it evalueates "yeah" and then it compares s to "yeah" :) |
| 19:04.54 | klip | (in your code I mean) |
| 19:05.45 | Lej | any other smart way to do it? got a lot of strings to comapre too |
| 19:05.59 | Lej | if I need S == every time it'll get very long |
| 19:06.06 | Bela|work | you could put them all in a table and then traverse the table for matches |
| 19:06.08 | klip | not sure if lua knows switch |
| 19:06.08 | malreth | use table lookups |
| 19:06.15 | klip | Im new in lua |
| 19:06.16 | klip | let me see |
| 19:06.22 | Wobin | Bela|work: =P |
| 19:06.32 | Wobin | You could use a table with the keys being the strings you want |
| 19:06.49 | Bela|work | that would be faster, but is a pain to write the table |
| 19:06.50 | Wobin | so {yeah = true, yes = true} |
| 19:07.08 | Wobin | then if t[s] .... |
| 19:07.11 | Lej | and then table[s]= |
| 19:07.13 | Lej | ok |
| 19:07.54 | malreth | don't use "table" |
| 19:08.10 | malreth | lua> print(table) |
| 19:08.10 | lua_bot | malreth: table: 0x63a630 |
| 19:08.23 | malreth | the table named "table" already exists in lua |
| 19:08.26 | malreth | :) |
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| 19:09.22 | Lej | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:09.26 | Wobin | Bela|work: True, but you're only writing it once |
| 19:09.30 | Bela|work | the first one |
| 19:09.30 | Wobin | The former |
| 19:09.36 | Bela|work | lua> local s = "yes"; local lookup = {yeah = true, yes = true}; if (lookup[s]) then print("match"); else print("no match"); end |
| 19:09.37 | lua_bot | Bela|work: match |
| 19:10.26 | Wobin | Bela|work: You forgot 'omg' 'uhuh' 'rofl' and 'lolwhut' =) |
| 19:10.41 | Bela|work | I should probably do it that way, but I like my tables to be like {"yeah","yes"} which of course requires an interator |
| 19:10.52 | Bela|work | iterator* |
| 19:10.58 | klip | hm, lua lacks switch command |
| 19:11.04 | Wobin | klip: yeh |
| 19:11.05 | Lej | what If I have a two word string, then I need to do something like {"oh yeah" = true, yes = true} ? |
| 19:11.15 | Wobin | klip: Although you can use tables to imitate them |
| 19:11.18 | malreth | klip: tables can be used as a switch construct |
| 19:11.22 | Bela|work | lookup["oh yeah"] = true; |
| 19:11.23 | Wobin | Lej: [Oh Yeah!] |
| 19:11.38 | klip | sure, I just found nice page with plenty of switch workarounds :) |
| 19:11.42 | klip | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:11.47 | klip | oops |
| 19:11.52 | klip | this one: http://lua-users.org/wiki/SwitchStatement |
| 19:12.00 | Bela|work | its easy to do honestly |
| 19:12.15 | Bela|work | hell, you could do it with metatables |
| 19:12.52 | Lej | lua> local s = "oh yes"; local lookup = {yeah = true, "oh yes" = true}; if (lookup[s]) then print("match"); else print("no match"); end |
| 19:12.52 | lua_bot | Lej: luabot:1: '}' expected near '=' |
| 19:13.54 | klip | use [ ] instead of " " as Wobin said :) |
| 19:14.00 | Bela|work | lua> local s = "oh yes"; local lookup = {yeah = true, ["oh yes"] = true}; if (lookup[s]) then print("match"); else print("no match"); end |
| 19:14.00 | lua_bot | Bela|work: match |
| 19:14.19 | Lej | to much help, missed that one ^^ |
| 19:14.44 | Bela|work | lua> local s = "oh yes"; local lookup = {yeah = true, ["oh yes"] = true, more = true, ["you lke that don't you"] = true}; if (lookup[s]) then print("match"); else print("no match"); end |
| 19:14.45 | lua_bot | Bela|work: match |
| 19:14.53 | Bela|work | sorry had to throw that one in |
| 19:15.17 | Lej | I saw that one coming :P |
| 19:17.39 | malreth | Lej: did you really? |
| 19:18.17 | malreth | and yet you claim that you were powerless to stop it |
| 19:18.57 | malreth | your honor, ladies and gentlemen of the jury... this man was not powerless... he was NEGLIGENT |
| 19:19.25 | Lej | Powerless and slightly perverse and two different things |
| 19:19.30 | Lej | pervers* |
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| 19:19.41 | malreth | I rest my case. |
| 19:20.03 | malreth | rests his case on Lej's chin |
| 19:20.11 | Lej | enjoys it |
| 19:20.27 | Josh_Borke | ~lart Bela|work |
| 19:20.27 | purl | frags Bela|work with his BFG9000 |
| 19:26.17 | Wobin | ... by malreth? |
| 19:26.53 | malreth | Wobin: you'll have to pay $100 to find out |
| 19:27.01 | Wobin | pft |
| 19:27.05 | malreth | $200 and you can watch |
| 19:27.26 | malreth | $300 and i'll spare you the horror |
| 19:27.28 | Wobin | No porn is worth that much |
| 19:28.32 | Wobin | hm |
| 19:28.35 | Saint-N | that's not true |
| 19:28.38 | Wobin | time to try my new life as a boomkin |
| 19:28.46 | Wobin | Saint-N: If it involves Malreth =P |
| 19:29.12 | malreth | i'm a bit like ron jeremy |
| 19:29.19 | Saint-N | oh 1 buck is too much for that(even if it inclouded lifetime membership to 15 other porn sites |
| 19:29.19 | malreth | fugly and hairy |
| 19:29.28 | Saint-N | and you can "hedgehog"? |
| 19:29.44 | malreth | only without the johnson or the stamina |
| 19:29.52 | malreth | so, i guess i'm really nothing like him |
| 19:29.54 | Wobin | Also, it being malreth, I really -don't- want to see what is considered 'affiliated' to his site |
| 19:30.03 | Saint-N | heh |
| 19:30.08 | ralfWORK | hedgehog? |
| 19:30.09 | ralfWORK | hmm |
| 19:30.22 | malreth | now accepting ads from the Hello Kitty Happy Fun Online Game |
| 19:30.35 | Wobin | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hedgehog |
| 19:30.46 | malreth | my porn site is the only one that can give you epilepsy |
| 19:31.00 | Wobin | Ample use of the <flash> tag? =P |
| 19:31.00 | ralfWORK | ROFL |
| 19:31.03 | Saint-N | hah |
| 19:31.12 | Saint-N | I didn't even know that was a "urban word" |
| 19:31.31 | Saint-N | we started using it in the porn selling industry like 18 years ago ;P |
| 19:31.34 | ralfWORK | seriously, urbandictionary is so retarded |
| 19:31.44 | Wobin | wow |
| 19:31.44 | Wobin | "They call him Ron Jeremy the way he hog them hedges" |
| 19:31.49 | Wobin | talk about metareferences |
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| 19:40.21 | Shirik|AFK | kicks the armory |
| 19:40.23 | Shirik|AFK | update damnit! |
| 19:40.29 | Fisker- | NO U |
| 19:40.37 | Shirik|AFK | :< |
| 19:42.20 | zenzelezz | update what, gear? |
| 19:45.31 | Shirik|AFK | yes.. |
| 19:45.44 | Shirik|AFK | it's still in my pvp gear :( |
| 19:45.57 | zenzelezz | gear usually updates within hours for me |
| 19:46.10 | zenzelezz | guild on the other hand... I've been marked guildless for weeks, even mailed them |
| 19:47.08 | Lej | mhm, signing "sap give fat man lives" guild charter wasn't the smartest idea ever |
| 19:47.10 | deltron | heh |
| 19:47.20 | deltron | I logged out with one of the coolest trinkets ever :D |
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| 19:49.46 | ralfWORK | orly? |
| 19:50.18 | zenzelezz | [Royal Seal of Eldre'Thalas]? |
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| 19:51.43 | Atriace | is this valid? if arg1==(a or b) then |
| 19:51.50 | ScytheBlade1 | No |
| 19:51.55 | ScytheBlade1 | if (arg1 == a or arg1 ==b ) |
| 19:52.04 | Shirik|AFK | sure it is |
| 19:52.08 | Shirik|AFK | but it's probably not what you want |
| 19:52.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Wait, really? |
| 19:52.11 | Wobin | It's valid |
| 19:52.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh |
| 19:52.13 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 19:52.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah okay details |
| 19:52.16 | Wobin | but not necessarily useful |
| 19:52.21 | deltron | I logged out with Cannonball Runner |
| 19:52.21 | deltron | :D |
| 19:52.23 | zenzelezz | boolean comparison |
| 19:52.29 | Atriace | Pity.... requires so much more text. |
| 19:52.45 | Atriace | I'm testing against 10 different variables. |
| 19:52.52 | Shirik|AFK | again, I'm not aware of any language that lets you do that |
| 19:53.05 | Wobin | Didn't we just have that conversation |
| 19:53.09 | Wobin | ? |
| 19:53.17 | Wobin | with comparisons to a whole bunch of variables? |
| 19:53.21 | Shirik|AFK | well I had this conversation yesterday :P |
| 19:53.29 | Shirik|AFK | don't remember who it was with |
| 19:53.38 | Atriace | Well which one was valid, Wobin? |
| 19:53.46 | Shirik|AFK | they're both valid |
| 19:53.51 | Atriace | oh? |
| 19:53.55 | Shirik|AFK | but if you're trying to determine equality, ScytheBlade1's is what you want |
| 19:54.01 | Shirik|AFK | yours does something completely different |
| 19:54.09 | Atriace | Such as? |
| 19:54.26 | Fisker- | chases Wobin |
| 19:54.32 | Shirik|AFK | lua> arg1, a, b = 4, 5, 4; return (arg1 == (a or b )) |
| 19:54.32 | lua_bot | Shirik|AFK: false |
| 19:54.40 | Shirik|AFK | lua> arg1, a, b = 4, false, 4; return (arg1 == (a or b )) |
| 19:54.40 | lua_bot | Shirik|AFK: true |
| 19:54.44 | Wobin | aha, you were logged out for that conversation |
| 19:54.51 | Shirik|AFK | lua> arg1, a, b = 4, 4, 5; return (arg1 == (a or b )) |
| 19:54.51 | lua_bot | Shirik|AFK: true |
| 19:55.21 | Wobin | the (a or b) evaluates first |
| 19:55.26 | Wobin | as a comparison between themselves |
| 19:55.39 | Atriace | Mmm |
| 19:55.46 | Shirik|AFK | (a or b) returns a if a is non-false and non-nil, otherwise it returns b |
| 19:56.10 | Shirik|AFK | I take that back |
| 19:56.17 | Wobin | one of the previous questions in the channel was how to compare an argument with a whole list of strings |
| 19:56.26 | Shirik|AFK | (a or b) return a if a is non-false and non-nil, otherwise it returns b if b is non-false and non-nil, otherwise it returns false |
| 19:56.36 | Atriace | I knew I shouldn't have logged last night... |
| 19:56.39 | Shirik|AFK | lua> return (false or nil) |
| 19:56.40 | lua_bot | Shirik|AFK: nil |
| 19:56.44 | Shirik|AFK | nope I was right the first time |
| 19:56.44 | Wobin | one of the proposed solutions was to create a table with all the variables as keys, then check whether the key existed in the table. |
| 19:56.59 | Shirik|AFK | lua> return (nil or false) |
| 19:56.59 | lua_bot | Shirik|AFK: false |
| 19:57.05 | Shirik|AFK | must be an optimization thing :P |
| 19:57.24 | Wobin | eg: t = {yes = true, yep = true}; s = "yep"; if t[s] then print("found") else print("not found") |
| 19:57.46 | Wobin | not sure if it will apply to your situation, but it's a possible solution |
| 19:57.58 | Atriace | Makes sense to me. |
| 19:58.07 | Atriace | Well, thanks for enlightening me. |
| 19:58.59 | Shirik|AFK | art3mis: ping |
| 19:59.05 | Bela|work | wow |
| 19:59.12 | Bela|work | was that the second time that question was asked? |
| 19:59.14 | Bela|work | hehe |
| 19:59.27 | Lej | We make life hard for you :( |
| 19:59.35 | Shirik|AFK | it's ok |
| 19:59.41 | Shirik|AFK | Bela|work's life deserves to be hard |
| 20:00.03 | Shirik|AFK | And now that he has a kid, hahaha |
| 20:00.14 | Shirik|AFK | I'm so buying your kid something very, very loud for his birthday |
| 20:00.16 | Shirik|AFK | like a drum set |
| 20:00.30 | Wobin | Nah |
| 20:00.33 | Wobin | Get him a murloc costume |
| 20:00.41 | ralfWORK | damn yes |
| 20:00.41 | Wobin | It'll give bela nightmares |
| 20:00.52 | ralfWORK | btw fuck verio |
| 20:00.52 | Saint-N | hrm? |
| 20:01.05 | Wobin | teach the kid to sneak up in it in the middle of the night |
| 20:01.26 | Shirik|AFK | hahaha |
| 20:01.29 | Shirik|AFK | yes |
| 20:01.38 | Saint-N | that would be creepy |
| 20:02.38 | Shirik|AFK | ok, time to go to school |
| 20:02.39 | Saint-N | Shirik|AFK: what did you want? |
| 20:02.41 | Shirik|AFK | casts Vanish |
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| 20:02.49 | Shirik|AFK | what, from art3mis? |
| 20:03.01 | Saint-N | <-- is art3mis |
| 20:03.07 | Shirik|AFK | wtf? |
| 20:03.10 | Saint-N | I'm at work |
| 20:03.16 | Shirik|AFK | anyway... |
| 20:03.42 | Shirik|AFK | You told me about some program a while ago that lets me essentially run a linux program inside windows, I think |
| 20:03.51 | Saint-N | oh yeah one sec |
| 20:03.51 | Shirik|AFK | not vmware |
| 20:03.52 | ralfWORK | cygwin? |
| 20:03.56 | Shirik|AFK | not cygwin |
| 20:04.03 | Wobin | somethingbox |
| 20:04.08 | Wobin | oh wait |
| 20:04.09 | ralfWORK | eh? |
| 20:04.10 | ralfWORK | busybox? |
| 20:04.10 | Wobin | wrong way around |
| 20:04.12 | ralfWORK | not that |
| 20:04.15 | Shirik|AFK | dropbox? |
| 20:04.30 | Wobin | sorry, thought you said windows inside linux |
| 20:04.34 | Saint-N | http://lifehacker.com/358208/seamlessly-run-linux-apps-on-your-windows-desktop there's that |
| 20:04.46 | Saint-N | and the other I'll link ya later as it's bookmarked at home |
| 20:04.59 | Shirik|AFK | ah that's it |
| 20:05.02 | Shirik|AFK | thanks :) |
| 20:05.38 | Saint-N | andLinux |
| 20:06.06 | Saint-N | been mucking around with QEMU and VMM in nix the last few days |
| 20:06.13 | Saint-N | I really should make some isos ;) |
| 20:06.50 | Bela|work | my kid can play my warrior |
| 20:06.55 | Bela|work | already has a murloc suit |
| 20:07.06 | Shirik|AFK | ok |
| 20:07.07 | Shirik|AFK | vanishes |
| 20:07.33 | Saint-N | Bela|work: a real life murloc suit ;P |
| 20:07.50 | Saint-N | so he can wake you up with MRGRGRLLGRLLG |
| 20:08.10 | Saint-N | hehe the murloc jammys!@ |
| 20:09.56 | Atriace | What the hell?! |
| 20:09.59 | Atriace | NooooO! |
| 20:09.59 | Atriace | is grabbed by the feet, thrown to the ground and dragged away kicking and screaming. |
| 20:11.11 | Lunessa | Murloc suit FTW |
| 20:11.37 | Wobin | yep |
| 20:11.40 | Wobin | RL murloc suit =) |
| 20:11.59 | zenzelezz | now that's a weird fetish |
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| 20:12.29 | Fisker- | putty = running linux apps on your windows desktop :P |
| 20:12.35 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 20:14.16 | Josh_Borke | ... |
| 20:14.31 | Bela|work | one could make a real life murloc suit rathyer easily |
| 20:14.38 | Bela|work | would be fun |
| 20:14.40 | Bela|work | I might do it |
| 20:14.45 | Bela|work | and take pictures |
| 20:14.51 | Bela|work | and use them as blackmail when he is 18 |
| 20:14.54 | Bela|work | oh |
| 20:15.02 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 20:15.03 | Josh_Borke | DO IT |
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| 21:13.29 | Aaroja | am I allowed to post Lua Code here? |
| 21:13.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes, but if you post a lot (more than two or three lines), use pastey (in the channel topic) |
| 21:14.03 | Aaroja | it's just a short function |
| 21:14.32 | ScytheBlade1 | wowi.pastey.net |
| 21:15.04 | clad|office | Aaroja: pastey it |
| 21:15.07 | clad|office | unless it fits on one line |
| 21:15.10 | clad|office | please |
| 21:15.15 | Aaroja | ok |
| 21:15.17 | Josh_Borke | i'll pastey your face! |
| 21:15.24 | Josh_Borke | has tried so hard to get kicked from this channel |
| 21:15.27 | Josh_Borke | it just never happens |
| 21:15.33 | clad|office | that was people can alter it, and diff things |
| 21:15.34 | Cairenn | pastey's Josh_Borke's mom |
| 21:15.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Pass me a +o and it'll be done |
| 21:15.46 | Josh_Borke | ~emulate Josh_Borke |
| 21:15.51 | Josh_Borke | ~emulate JoshBorke |
| 21:15.52 | purl | Someone peed in my cheerios! |
| 21:15.56 | Cairenn | hahahaha |
| 21:16.07 | Aaroja | http://wowi.pastey.net/84094 |
| 21:16.13 | Josh_Borke | ~emulate Josh_Borke |
| 21:16.14 | purl | ACTION hugs Cairenn |
| 21:16.14 | Aaroja | can somebody help me with this? |
| 21:16.16 | Cairenn | hugs Josh_Borke |
| 21:16.46 | Aaroja | It should store the value 1 or 0 into my SavedVariable and then close the Form... |
| 21:16.48 | Josh_Borke | why is checked compared to "True" and not true? |
| 21:16.53 | Aaroja | but I think it doesn't |
| 21:17.04 | zenzelezz | .Checked? Is that real WoW-lua? |
| 21:17.10 | Aaroja | i don't know xD |
| 21:17.15 | clad|office | zenzelezz: no |
| 21:17.19 | Aaroja | I'm not an expert in lua |
| 21:17.22 | clad|office | Aaroja: please post your .toc as well |
| 21:17.26 | Aaroja | k |
| 21:17.45 | clad|office | what you want is if AarojaUIFormCheckButtonGuildgreet:GetChecked() then instead of what you have on line 2 |
| 21:17.45 | Josh_Borke | perhaps if AarojaUIFormCheckButtonGuildgreet is a checkbox you mean: if (AarojaUIFormCheckButtonGuildgreet:GetChecked() == 1) then |
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| 21:18.37 | Aaroja | http://wowi.pastey.net/84095 |
| 21:18.55 | Aaroja | ah k |
| 21:19.27 | Aaroja | so SetChecked("True") is for forcing them to be checked an GetChecked() is for getting it's value? |
| 21:19.52 | Josh_Borke | yes |
| 21:19.56 | Aaroja | k^^ |
| 21:19.59 | Aaroja | thank you all :) |
| 21:20.03 | Aaroja | I'll give it a try |
| 21:21.17 | Lunessa | SetSecretPwerUP("True") = I win. |
| 21:21.29 | Aaroja | ^^ |
| 21:21.57 | Lunessa | ... Odd humor from the otherwise quiet priest today. |
| 21:22.53 | Josh_Borke | what spec priest? |
| 21:23.08 | Aaroja | I think I need more help :) I'll post my whole addon in pastey (it only contains 2 things xD) and propably somebody can help me :) |
| 21:23.25 | Josh_Borke | sound slike a good idea |
| 21:23.31 | Aaroja | ^^ |
| 21:24.06 | Aaroja | http://wowi.pastey.net/84095 |
| 21:24.12 | Aaroja | http://wowi.pastey.net/84096 |
| 21:24.53 | Aaroja | damn spam-check xD |
| 21:25.02 | Josh_Borke | http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_API#CheckButton |
| 21:25.32 | Josh_Borke | ~emulate Cairenn |
| 21:25.32 | purl | ACTION purrs |
| 21:25.32 | Aaroja | I already got this ^^ |
| 21:25.39 | Cairenn | purrs |
| 21:26.27 | Aaroja | I wanted to make my AddOn load the SavedVariable "AarojaUI" and send a friendly message to the guild if I checked the CheckBox last time I played |
| 21:26.41 | Aaroja | but it doesn't^^ |
| 21:27.09 | Josh_Borke | what's in the XML? |
| 21:27.09 | Aaroja | so to speak just a little saving of my settings :) |
| 21:27.13 | Aaroja | mom :) |
| 21:28.25 | Aaroja | pastey wants me to validate my xml because it contains urls -.- |
| 21:29.46 | ScytheBlade1 | So |
| 21:29.54 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm holding Ishanah hostage |
| 21:29.58 | ScytheBlade1 | You know, the head Aldor priestess? |
| 21:30.03 | Aaroja | I think "WoW UI Designer" is writing a lot of crap into my XML |
| 21:30.11 | Guillotine | It does that |
| 21:30.17 | Guillotine | you're better off doing it from scratch |
| 21:30.23 | Guillotine | or just not using XML |
| 21:30.33 | Guillotine | Dynamic frames in Lua > XML |
| 21:30.41 | Aaroja | but how do I not use xml if I want a GUI?^^ |
| 21:31.02 | ScytheBlade1 | wowwiki.com/API_CreateFrame |
| 21:31.12 | Guillotine | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_CreateFrame |
| 21:31.14 | Guillotine | dammit |
| 21:31.16 | Guillotine | beat to it :( |
| 21:31.24 | ScytheBlade1 | ;) |
| 21:31.59 | Aaroja | so whats the difference between Dynamic Frames and XML-Frames? |
| 21:32.03 | Guillotine | It sucks not having any PTRs with the possibility to test most addons :( |
| 21:32.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Guillotine: indeed |
| 21:32.11 | Josh_Borke | dynamic frames are a big headache until you understand them |
| 21:32.16 | Aaroja | ^^ |
| 21:32.19 | Guillotine | Dynamic frames are dynamic and don't have to be created until they're needed |
| 21:32.20 | Guillotine | naaah |
| 21:32.27 | Josh_Borke | and dynamic frames are complicated and hard |
| 21:32.28 | Guillotine | They aren't that hard |
| 21:32.32 | Guillotine | easier than xml imo |
| 21:32.42 | Josh_Borke | not when you have tools that generate xml for you |
| 21:32.50 | Guillotine | that generate bloated xml :P |
| 21:32.54 | Aaroja | so XML-Frames are using memory even if they are not visible? |
| 21:32.59 | Guillotine | yes |
| 21:33.04 | Josh_Borke | got any tools that are going to tell me how to create a checkbox that looks like whatever and goes to this spot? |
| 21:33.26 | Aaroja | so if I want an AddOn which saves memory I got to use DynFrames? |
| 21:33.26 | Guillotine | why need tools? Just create a checkbox, set height, set width, setpoint |
| 21:33.33 | Guillotine | Its really not that much memory |
| 21:33.40 | Josh_Borke | Guillotine: and what do you mean by setpoint? what point do i set it to? |
| 21:33.55 | Guillotine | and if you already know xml but not about dynamic frames, you might as well just use the xml |
| 21:34.01 | Josh_Borke | these are the questions that xml (and tools that generate bloated xml) hide from new developers |
| 21:34.31 | Guillotine | Suppose its really just preference |
| 21:34.58 | Josh_Borke | it really is just preference, for static frames that you'll always need, xml is just as easy as CreateFrame |
| 21:35.07 | Josh_Borke | also, yo ucan't create inheritable frames from lua |
| 21:35.16 | Guillotine | no, but you can create functions that create them |
| 21:35.18 | Guillotine | which is easier imo |
| 21:35.48 | Aaroja | ok I speak honestly ^^: I just know the very Basics of Lua and a little bit XML from Flex but not enough to say "I know the language" :) I just wanted to learn how to make AddOns by building some and continiously expanding my repertroir |
| 21:36.17 | Guillotine | then I'd suggest just dealing with bloated XML until you learn the Lua |
| 21:36.31 | Guillotine | since it really doesn't add *that* much |
| 21:37.24 | Aaroja | Thats what I'm doing^^ because if you use "WoW Ui Des" you don't need to know xml I think |
| 21:37.31 | Guillotine | nope |
| 21:37.48 | Aaroja | I'm just interessted in learning how to get life into the pictures |
| 21:38.37 | Aaroja | anyway can somebody help me with my problem? :P |
| 21:39.30 | Guillotine | oh, whats the problem? |
| 21:39.33 | Aaroja | ^^ |
| 21:39.35 | Guillotine | >.> |
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| 21:40.13 | Aaroja | I want my addon to load the SavedVariable, read a value and then either send a message to my guild on login or not :) |
| 21:40.22 | Guillotine | alright |
| 21:40.34 | Guillotine | well, you want to run a function on the event VARIABLES_LOADED |
| 21:40.36 | Aaroja | and I also want to make the button checked if I open the settings window |
| 21:40.42 | Aaroja | got that |
| 21:40.50 | ScytheBlade1 | RayneBORED: bet I'm more bored than you |
| 21:40.54 | Guillotine | technically the frame still exists, whether its loaded or not |
| 21:41.03 | Guillotine | so really, just set the button to checked or not when the variables load |
| 21:41.04 | RayneBORED | ScytheBlade1: Im more confused than bored. |
| 21:41.06 | Guillotine | and it'll stay like that |
| 21:41.09 | RayneBORED | If anyones got a minute, http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5286967816&sid=1 |
| 21:41.15 | RayneBORED | I broke my addons. :3 |
| 21:41.43 | Aaroja | but if I check the button... logout and relogin my checked button is gone |
| 21:41.54 | Aaroja | I want to save the "setting" |
| 21:42.10 | Guillotine | make sure you set it to checked or not on the VARIABLES_LOADED event |
| 21:42.15 | Guillotine | you want to manually do it |
| 21:42.29 | Guillotine | FrameName:SetChecked(BooleanShouldBeChecked) |
| 21:42.37 | Aaroja | er...^^ |
| 21:42.51 | Guillotine | Rayne: somewhere in there, you have [[..]] inside of another [[ ]] |
| 21:42.53 | Aaroja | no smily pleasy ^^ |
| 21:43.04 | Guillotine | Aaroja: can you pastey your code quickly? |
| 21:43.06 | Rayne | Guillotine: @_@ |
| 21:43.08 | Aaroja | ah you don't se my smily^^ |
| 21:43.10 | Rayne | goes to look |
| 21:43.20 | Aaroja | Lua? |
| 21:43.29 | Guillotine | yup |
| 21:43.30 | Aaroja | http://wowi.pastey.net/84096 |
| 21:43.31 | Guillotine | and probably xml |
| 21:43.37 | ScytheBlade1 | YES |
| 21:43.37 | Aaroja | no way for xml^^ |
| 21:43.39 | Guillotine | so I can see the checkbox name |
| 21:43.45 | ScytheBlade1 | [General] some one come get this gnome in the aldor tower |
| 21:43.52 | Guillotine | Aaroja: did you make sure to register the event? |
| 21:43.57 | Aaroja | yes |
| 21:44.12 | Aaroja | OnLoad is "this:RegisterEvent("VARIABLES_LOADED"); |
| 21:44.22 | Aaroja | without the quote ^^ |
| 21:45.17 | Guillotine | And you're sure that your checkbox name is AarojaUIFormCheckButtonGuildgreet? |
| 21:45.27 | Aaroja | yes wait... |
| 21:45.30 | Rayne | Think I found it... |
| 21:45.38 | Aaroja | $parentCheckButtonGuildgreet |
| 21:45.51 | Guillotine | and is the parent name AarojaUIForm? |
| 21:45.52 | Aaroja | thats the full name |
| 21:45.55 | Aaroja | Yes |
| 21:46.01 | Aaroja | AarojaUIForm.xml |
| 21:46.56 | Aaroja | Please don't slap me for my bad code ^^ I just know basic loops :) |
| 21:47.03 | Guillotine | hehe |
| 21:47.09 | Rayne | lets see |
| 21:47.18 | Aaroja | if while for thats all I think^^ |
| 21:47.18 | Rayne | crosses fingers |
| 21:47.25 | Aaroja | too |
| 21:47.28 | Rayne | Nope...shit. :/ |
| 21:47.32 | Aaroja | what? |
| 21:47.51 | Guillotine | Rayne: just search for "[[" in the file, and make sure theres never another [[ before the closing ]] |
| 21:48.33 | Guillotine | Aaroja: try putting DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("Event called") in the AarojaUIEvent() function to make sure the function is actually being called |
| 21:49.06 | Aaroja | don't öppl at that^^ |
| 21:49.11 | Aaroja | It's called by a button |
| 21:49.16 | Aaroja | *look |
| 21:49.29 | Guillotine | What is called by a button? |
| 21:49.33 | Guillotine | AarojaUIEvent()? |
| 21:49.38 | Aaroja | no Message() |
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| 21:49.57 | Guillotine | I know. I'm saying add another debug statement |
| 21:50.02 | Aaroja | I got 3 CheckBoxes to choose red/blue/green and then output a Testmessage^^ |
| 21:50.08 | Aaroja | ah k |
| 21:50.28 | Guillotine | also, you use globals r, g, and b. NOT a good idea |
| 21:50.45 | Guillotine | The chance that another addon will overwrite it with invalid data is WAY too high |
| 21:51.11 | Rayne | crosses fingers again |
| 21:51.20 | Aaroja | ah I thought local is for one function only... I knew this from Python |
| 21:51.29 | Guillotine | it is |
| 21:51.35 | Rayne | JOY, another error. |
| 21:52.12 | Aaroja | ok wait^^ let's solve this later :) |
| 21:52.15 | Guillotine | but there are a thousand other ways to do it. You can just directly get the checkbox's data. You can rename the variables "AarojaR", "AarojaG", ect. |
| 21:53.05 | Aaroja | my first priority is the guildgreet :) |
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| 21:54.34 | Aaroja | any idea what is wrong with my code? (except the simpleness^^) |
| 21:54.49 | Guillotine | Are you sure that event function is being called OnEvent? |
| 21:54.57 | Aaroja | yes |
| 21:55.24 | Guillotine | oh |
| 21:55.35 | Guillotine | is Hide_Form callled on the close button? |
| 21:55.43 | Aaroja | yes |
| 21:55.50 | Guillotine | Usually this:GetParent():Hide() is called by default |
| 21:55.56 | Guillotine | my guess is its an XML problem |
| 21:56.03 | Aaroja | so my Lua is right? |
| 21:56.14 | Guillotine | without checking for typos and such, yes |
| 21:56.20 | Aaroja | k |
| 21:56.25 | Aaroja | maybe I got my fault |
| 21:56.31 | Aaroja | I'll try something^^ |
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| 21:58.24 | Aaroja | ok I don't get it I found that my close button still used "Parent:Hide()"^^ |
| 21:58.34 | Aaroja | but it still doesn't work |
| 21:58.57 | Aaroja | and the "AarojaUIEvent()" is called... it outputs a message |
| 21:59.54 | Guillotine | so you changed it to use your close function? |
| 22:00.01 | Aaroja | yes |
| 22:00.13 | Guillotine | and it still doesn't work? |
| 22:00.18 | Aaroja | yes :/ |
| 22:00.39 | Guillotine | You really should set that data to be saved when the user checks/unchecks the button, not when they close the frame |
| 22:00.43 | Aaroja | Maybe I should try AddMessage with my AarojaUI-Variable? |
| 22:01.02 | Guillotine | sure |
| 22:01.05 | Aaroja | so I can see if it is loaded or not^^ |
| 22:02.43 | Guillotine | goddam migraines. Makes doing just about anything impossible -_- |
| 22:03.45 | Rayne | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/SinOfDreams/WoWScrnShot_031908_155050.jpg Theres the new one, NEVER seen anything like this before |
| 22:04.16 | Aaroja | maybe you got one "end" to much? |
| 22:04.45 | Aaroja | My "WoW Ui Designer" said that to me when I made an end to much |
| 22:06.05 | cog|work | Rayne: means you have an extra "end" |
| 22:06.19 | Aaroja | I think he got that ^^ |
| 22:06.31 | cog|work | is slow |
| 22:06.33 | cog|work | :P |
| 22:06.36 | Aaroja | :P |
| 22:07.35 | Josh_Borke | i believe it means you have a bad fgile! |
| 22:08.52 | Aaroja | Guillotine? |
| 22:09.00 | Guillotine | Moo |
| 22:09.06 | Aaroja | I got some news^^ |
| 22:09.19 | Guillotine | Moo? |
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| 22:10.04 | Aaroja | I added a AddMessage() to my "Save-Button" and it says that the button is activated... so... my SavedVariable should save the value 1 then.. right? but if I relog I get the value 0 insted |
| 22:10.07 | Aaroja | *instead |
| 22:10.23 | Aaroja | not the button is active I mean the CheckBox^^ |
| 22:11.29 | Aaroja | so I think the Variable is not saving |
| 22:11.39 | Aaroja | every thing else should be find :/ |
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| 22:12.23 | Rayne | Lets try again... |
| 22:12.33 | Lopeppeppy | gets ready... set... go! |
| 22:13.07 | Rayne | Lopeppeppy: *ques 'The Distance' by Cake |
| 22:14.01 | Aaroja | does var=0 and var=nil mean the same? |
| 22:14.35 | zenzelezz | no |
| 22:14.38 | Rayne | 'Error Retrieving Character List' |
| 22:14.40 | Rayne | ITS A SIGN! |
| 22:15.15 | Rayne | Oh there it goes, silly ISP being laggy |
| 22:15.17 | sag_ich_nicht | http://gizmodo.com/368651/new-video-of-bigdog-quadruped-robot-is-so-stunning-its-spooky <--god damn it this video is disturbing, it manages to reproduce leg movement accurately enough to fool my brain into triggering lifeform recognition |
| 22:15.20 | Aaroja | beacause... I said that the CheckBox should exec the code so every time I click the Box it saves the var |
| 22:15.52 | Aaroja | If I check it it works... if I uncheck it it says "Trying to give 'guildgreet' a nil value" |
| 22:17.52 | Aaroja | http://wowi.pastey.net/84100 |
| 22:17.57 | Aaroja | this is my new Lua |
| 22:18.12 | art3mis | anyoen here REALLY awesome with sql? |
| 22:18.35 | Rayne | That video is freaky... |
| 22:18.50 | art3mis | yeah i linked that yesterday ;P |
| 22:19.04 | art3mis | sag_ich_nicht: my wife had to stop watching for that reason |
| 22:19.15 | art3mis | she was feling empathy for it when it stumbled on the ice |
| 22:19.34 | Rayne | btw thanks for your help guys. :) problem solved |
| 22:19.52 | dylanm | I think those guys built that just so they could legally kick a dog. |
| 22:19.55 | Aaroja | np ^^ even if I helped the less^^ |
| 22:19.56 | Guillotine | Aaroja: oh, that could be your problem. Sorry, I'm programming in C atm, so I didn't even think about it, but 0=true |
| 22:20.10 | Aaroja | what? |
| 22:20.13 | Aaroja | 0 is true? |
| 22:20.23 | cog|work | lua> if 0 then print"hi" end |
| 22:20.23 | lua_bot | cog|work: hi |
| 22:20.44 | cog|work | only nil and false are false |
| 22:20.53 | Guillotine | Every string and every number is true |
| 22:21.08 | Aaroja | so I got to check if the button is NOT checked instead of if it IS checked?^^ |
| 22:21.19 | ScytheBlade1 | http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/misc/Ishanah/1.png |
| 22:21.24 | ScytheBlade1 | (offtopic) |
| 22:21.53 | Aaroja | ScytheBlade1: Sweet^^ |
| 22:22.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Me? Bored? Never |
| 22:22.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Also see chat.png |
| 22:22.28 | ScytheBlade1 | http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/misc/Ishanah/chat.png |
| 22:22.29 | ScytheBlade1 | For the lazy |
| 22:23.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Think I did that for a half-hour or so |
| 22:23.15 | Aaroja | Guillotine: whats my prob now?^^ |
| 22:23.49 | Aaroja | could you take a look at my new lua please? |
| 22:23.54 | Aaroja | http://wowi.pastey.net/84100 |
| 22:24.28 | Guillotine | Aaroja: you know what a ternary operator is? |
| 22:24.31 | Rayne | ScytheBlade1: You can also MC her and her own guards banish her from the city |
| 22:24.40 | Guillotine | actually |
| 22:24.45 | Guillotine | easiest way is probably to store true and false |
| 22:24.48 | Guillotine | instead of 1 and 0 |
| 22:24.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Rayne: holy crap. afk leveling a priest. |
| 22:24.54 | Aaroja | ok |
| 22:25.32 | Aaroja | so I try it again with "true" and "false" and then I bother you again^^ |
| 22:25.36 | Aaroja | be right back^^ |
| 22:26.20 | Rayne | Wow... |
| 22:26.29 | Rayne | Ques for EOTS on BG9 are 10 minutes atm |
| 22:26.37 | Rayne | :/ |
| 22:27.44 | art3mis | haha my wifes boss asked her what other types of unix are there |
| 22:28.05 | Aaroja | xD |
| 22:28.11 | art3mis | she asked me, i said freebsd openbsd netbsd aix irix hpux sysV SCO |
| 22:28.19 | art3mis | her boss says "freebsd isnt real" |
| 22:28.25 | Aaroja | lol? |
| 22:28.26 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 22:28.27 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 22:28.41 | art3mis | i link her the page where it says that yahoo google and microsoft all use freebsd for thier inet servers |
| 22:29.00 | art3mis | nd then tell her that im sending a bunch of zealots over to talk to her boss |
| 22:29.21 | art3mis | so ehr boss bought her lunch for being "a dumbass" |
| 22:29.44 | art3mis | he's actually quite funny |
| 22:29.44 | Aaroja | ^^^ |
| 22:30.20 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 22:30.39 | ralfWORK | christ. mana potion injector schematic is 1000g on Elune :( |
| 22:31.02 | NightHawkTheSane | puts on 'Children of the Gods' |
| 22:31.04 | Aaroja | aaaaah damn I don't get it -.- AddMessage(guildgreet) gives me a 1 not "True/False" ... 1. Why? and 2. How to use this for my Addon? o.O *confused* |
| 22:31.23 | art3mis | <art3mis> remember when the mit people were making blackholes in the lab? |
| 22:31.23 | art3mis | <art3mis> someone was quoted as saying "the last words every uttered for all of humanity will be "he check it out guys i've made a bla..." |
| 22:31.23 | art3mis | <art3mis> or "is it supposed to do tha.." |
| 22:31.25 | art3mis | <Baelzebub> Yeah "These black holes cannot cause any problems for us as they are too small" they say. Now explain to me how the fuck these people KNOW and i mean K N O W this? They don't. What if there was a wierd sun burst that fucked with the electrics and the hole runs out of control and they can't shut it down? I tell you what, no more fucking WoW that's what. |
| 22:31.28 | art3mis | hahaha |
| 22:31.36 | art3mis | the last sentence makes it awesome |
| 22:32.05 | NightHawkTheSane | art3mis: win. :P |
| 22:32.14 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 22:32.18 | sag_ich_nicht | i see Baelzebub fails at understanding hawking radation |
| 22:32.23 | sag_ich_nicht | *radiation |
| 22:32.32 | art3mis | sag_ich_nicht: not many dont |
| 22:32.32 | NightHawkTheSane | but he clearly understands the important things in life |
| 22:33.15 | art3mis | but theoretically he is right, one bad sun bust and a badly placed neutrino and poof |
| 22:33.20 | art3mis | burst |
| 22:33.26 | sag_ich_nicht | facepalm |
| 22:33.29 | art3mis | ;) |
| 22:33.32 | Lunessa | mmmm... blue glow. |
| 22:33.38 | sag_ich_nicht | look |
| 22:33.42 | NightHawkTheSane | art3mis: indeed, no more wow. >< |
| 22:33.47 | sag_ich_nicht | _no_ |
| 22:33.48 | sag_ich_nicht | okay |
| 22:34.45 | art3mis | explain it to us then sag_ich_hawking |
| 22:35.32 | NightHawkTheSane | ooh, and use that neat computer voice too. |
| 22:36.04 | sag_ich_nicht | facepalm |
| 22:36.05 | sag_ich_nicht | go to bed |
| 22:37.08 | Lopeppeppy | Blue glowing stars on a field of inky nothing.... |
| 22:37.42 | ralfWORK | so seriously, why do the guardian elixers suck so bad for shadow priests? |
| 22:37.50 | ralfWORK | (and I guess just about every other DPS caster) |
| 22:38.05 | sag_ich_nicht | what. |
| 22:38.07 | sag_ich_nicht | get mageblood |
| 22:38.12 | Rayne | I have a question guys. |
| 22:38.31 | Rayne | My wife plays WoW on basicly the same system as I do, save her processor being better than mine ( >_< ) |
| 22:38.33 | Rayne | But anyway |
| 22:38.36 | ralfWORK | mm. I see. |
| 22:38.48 | Rayne | Shell play WoW, and out of nowhere, her FPS will just plummet. |
| 22:39.10 | Rayne | Im thinking its addon related, but im not sure. |
| 22:39.10 | sag_ich_nicht | use perfmon to monitor usage spikes |
| 22:39.40 | Rayne | Im almost pointing at cartographer, cause 90% of our guild uses it, so when it updates / broadcasts it might be eating her memory |
| 22:39.44 | Rayne | but im not sure. |
| 22:40.27 | Aaroja | ok again -.- "is false=nil"? |
| 22:40.29 | Rayne | I havent used it in a long time...never really liked it tbh... |
| 22:40.37 | clad|office | Aaroja: ask the bot |
| 22:40.40 | clad|office | lua> print(false == nil) |
| 22:40.40 | lua_bot | clad|office: false |
| 22:40.42 | Aaroja | how?^^ |
| 22:40.50 | clad|office | Aaroja: just type lua> and the code you want to run |
| 22:40.55 | Aaroja | ah k^^ |
| 22:40.56 | clad|office | lua> print(true and false or nil) |
| 22:40.56 | lua_bot | clad|office: nil |
| 22:41.10 | Aaroja | lua> print("Test") |
| 22:41.11 | lua_bot | Aaroja: Test |
| 22:41.13 | Aaroja | ^^ |
| 22:41.14 | Aaroja | k |
| 22:41.42 | clad|office | he also accepts commands via private message, or in the #luabot channel |
| 22:41.48 | clad|office | lua> pp(_G) |
| 22:41.49 | lua_bot | clad|office: { ["tostring"] = function: 0x629d80, ["os"] = { ["date"] = function: 0x62d760, ["difftime"] = function: 0x62d7c0, ["time"] = function: 0x62a6d0, ["clock"] = function: 0x62d700 } (#2), ["getfenv"] = function: 0x629910, ["pairs"] = function: 0x6290e0, ["assert"] = function: 0x6297f0, ["tonumber"] = fu... (result truncated) |
| 22:41.51 | Aaroja | thanks^^ |
| 22:41.53 | clad|office | night all |
| 22:41.57 | clad|office | lua> pp(os) |
| 22:41.58 | lua_bot | clad|office: { ["date"] = function: 0x62d760, ["difftime"] = function: 0x62d7c0, ["time"] = function: 0x62a6d0, ["clock"] = function: 0x62d700 } (#1) |
| 22:41.58 | Aaroja | n8 |
| 22:42.01 | clad|office | phew |
| 22:42.07 | clad|office | i was concerned that for a minute :P |
| 22:42.09 | Aaroja | w00t?^^ |
| 22:42.33 | Aaroja | can you help me maybe? I think Guillotine is too stressed by me :) |
| 22:42.57 | clad|office | lol you just said goodnight to me |
| 22:43.14 | Aaroja | you said "night all"^^ |
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| 22:43.25 | clad|office | "goodnight everyone" |
| 22:43.48 | Aaroja | I say this if I am leaving^^ |
| 22:43.54 | clad|office | I am leaving |
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| 22:44.03 | clad|office | that's why I'ms aying, I can't stay to help you |
| 22:44.05 | art3mis | Rayne: in full screen or windowed mode? |
| 22:44.08 | Aaroja | so I was right saying "n8"?^^ |
| 22:44.24 | clad|office | no, because thats' not english |
| 22:44.24 | clad|office | but alas |
| 22:44.26 | art3mis | Rayne: cuz my fps sucks crap in windowed if it's near the bottom object dock |
| 22:44.39 | Aaroja | yeah yeah^^ |
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| 22:44.57 | Aaroja | Good Night... Better?^^ |
| 22:45.09 | art3mis | ...and clad should know english he has a bit in him every now and again ;P |
| 22:45.15 | art3mis | ~rimshot |
| 22:45.15 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
| 22:45.16 | Aaroja | ^^ |
| 22:46.15 | clad|office | ;-) |
| 22:46.58 | Guillotine | I miss the days when I could have the most recent post in every thread on UI forums :( Damn post timer + a hundred times the people posting :( |
| 22:47.01 | Aaroja | please ANYBODY help me :'-( |
| 22:47.34 | Aaroja | I simplified my addon so it only greets the guild^^ |
| 22:47.34 | Aaroja | http://wowi.pastey.net/84101 |
| 22:47.37 | MentalPower | Aaroja: kill the trailing ^^ |
| 22:47.42 | Aaroja | but Iit doesn't -.- |
| 22:47.43 | MentalPower | its annoying |
| 22:47.54 | ScytheBlade1 | MentalPower: what? ^^ |
| 22:47.59 | MentalPower | ~lart ScytheBlade1 |
| 22:47.59 | purl | slaps ScytheBlade1 around with a large trout |
| 22:48.05 | ScytheBlade1 | ^^ |
| 22:48.13 | MentalPower | a;lsdfh;LAHER;OIQ3URO;IAWUCRO;AM3WUMR0A3UR;AOMIE;OICVUNV;EORIUAO;3WU;M8940!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 22:48.20 | Aaroja | ^.- |
| 22:48.23 | ScytheBlade1 | hehe. I think it worked. |
| 22:48.54 | MentalPower | seriously Aaroja stop it |
| 22:48.58 | Guillotine | See, you can kill a robot by saying "this statement is false" |
| 22:49.03 | Guillotine | to kill MP, you just say |
| 22:49.07 | ScytheBlade1 | ^^ |
| 22:49.08 | Guillotine | This statement is false ^^ |
| 22:49.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Hahaha |
| 22:49.17 | Aaroja | ^^ |
| 22:49.26 | MentalPower | ~lart Aaroja |
| 22:49.26 | purl | beats Aaroja severely about the head and shoulders with a rubber chicken |
| 22:49.29 | Guillotine | seriously though, MP is right, emoticons are ok every once in a while, but you don |
| 22:49.29 | MentalPower | ~lart Guillotine |
| 22:49.29 | purl | beats Guillotine to within 2.54cm of his life |
| 22:49.32 | Lunessa | Guillotine: That statement is true. |
| 22:49.35 | MentalPower | ~lart ScytheBlade1 |
| 22:49.35 | purl | wallops ScytheBlade1 with a main rotation server that needs rehubbing. It won't take long |
| 22:49.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Hahaha ^^ |
| 22:49.36 | Guillotine | don't need to use them all the time |
| 22:50.19 | Guillotine | ~roulette |
| 22:50.20 | purl | ACTION watches guillotine pull the trigger: Click! |
| 22:50.23 | Guillotine | awww |
| 22:50.24 | Aaroja | Am I using to much emoteicons? |
| 22:50.30 | MentalPower | yes |
| 22:51.04 | Aaroja | but what is the problem with emoteicons? |
| 22:51.08 | Aaroja | I don't get that |
| 22:51.26 | MentalPower | too many |
| 22:51.35 | MentalPower | its annoying rather than helpful |
| 22:51.43 | dylanm | NO SUCH THING |
| 22:52.01 | ScytheBlade1 | ^_________________________________________________^ |
| 22:52.04 | Aaroja | anyway can somebody help me till this is over? |
| 22:52.19 | Aaroja | maybe not Guillotine he doesn't like me anymore |
| 22:52.23 | Guillotine | most of us have other things we're doing as well |
| 22:52.33 | Guillotine | We'll help as we can, but |
| 22:52.38 | Guillotine | My trolling is very important |
| 22:52.43 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 22:52.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Indeed. This is more a "come and go as you please" type of channel, not a "WE EXIST TO SERVICE YOUR EVERY NEED" channel |
| 22:52.57 | nevcairiel | wait, not? |
| 22:52.58 | Lopeppeppy | goes looking for another channel.... |
| 22:52.59 | nevcairiel | leaves |
| 22:53.06 | ScytheBlade1 | See? |
| 22:53.06 | Aaroja | laughs |
| 22:53.12 | ScytheBlade1 | They're leaving because they want to ;) |
| 22:53.13 | zenzelezz | that's not necessarily true ScytheBlade1 |
| 22:53.27 | ScytheBlade1 | zenzelezz: oh, sorry. In that case, get back to work. |
| 22:53.34 | Guillotine | lua_bot is here to service your every need. He won't leave on you! |
| 22:53.39 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 22:53.39 | Guillotine | Purl is very good with that too |
| 22:53.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, okay, point taken |
| 22:54.19 | Guillotine | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5282317839&sid=1 Best troll response to a troll... ever? |
| 22:54.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Arcaia: people help as they can, as they please. Asking for help three-four-five times in a five minute period will get you nowhere. |
| 22:54.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Err |
| 22:54.44 | Lopeppeppy | Very beautiful, Guillotine. |
| 22:54.47 | Aaroja | ok... one last question for today ( only 6 minutes left ^^): Locals are deleted after the function was called? |
| 22:54.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Arcaia: sorry, mistell :( |
| 22:55.03 | Guillotine | Aaroja: after the function is removed from the stack, yes |
| 22:55.11 | Aaroja | means? |
| 22:55.16 | nevcairiel | Guillotine: its 'self' not 'this' |
| 22:55.17 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 22:55.25 | Guillotine | nev: oh, whoops |
| 22:55.42 | Guillotine | Aaroja: well, since you probably won't use coroutines for quite a while, just use what you said |
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| 22:56.04 | Guillotine | nev: fixed |
| 22:56.06 | Aaroja | ok thank you all for your patience ^^ |
| 22:56.15 | MentalPower | Aaroja: :GetChecked() returns 1/nil |
| 22:56.19 | MentalPower | not true/false |
| 22:56.23 | Aaroja | ok |
| 22:56.24 | Lopeppeppy | pounce-huggles |Jelly| into a marshmallow Peep! |
| 22:56.26 | Aaroja | thats a problem |
| 22:56.38 | Aaroja | er... |
| 22:56.40 | Aaroja | no... |
| 22:56.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Aaroja: no, that means you just check for 1 or nil. |
| 22:56.49 | Aaroja | yes thats the solution |
| 22:56.50 | MentalPower | just use "if (Something:GetChecked()) then" |
| 22:57.01 | MentalPower | that will catch both cases |
| 22:57.06 | Aaroja | k |
| 22:57.08 | Aaroja | thank you |
| 22:59.12 | Aaroja | damn... finaly it works |
| 22:59.14 | Aaroja | *cheer* |
| 22:59.26 | Aaroja | MP you're the one *laugh* |
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| 22:59.51 | Guillotine | See what can be accomplished with frugal use of emotes? ^_^ |
| 22:59.55 | Aaroja | I thought "GetChecked()" returns True/False so this was the only fault left :) |
| 23:00.03 | Guillotine | well, technically 1 is true |
| 23:00.10 | Aaroja | yes ^^ |
| 23:00.13 | Aaroja | 0 too |
| 23:00.18 | Guillotine | yesh |
| 23:00.21 | ScytheBlade1 | ^------------------_____________------------------^ |
| 23:00.24 | cog|work | Aaroja: rather than doing if soandso == true, just do if soandso |
| 23:00.25 | Aaroja | but this doesn't help very much |
| 23:00.34 | cog|work | or rather than if soandso == nil do if not soandso |
| 23:00.45 | Aaroja | ah k |
| 23:01.07 | Aaroja | makes my code much smaller |
| 23:01.30 | cog|work | and some would argue more correct ;) |
| 23:01.42 | Lunessa | Some might. |
| 23:01.54 | Aaroja | I say it does |
| 23:01.55 | Lunessa | certainly more readable. |
| 23:02.01 | Aaroja | yeah yeah |
| 23:02.21 | Lunessa | Ok... I'm out. See you all tomorrow. |
| 23:02.31 | Aaroja | bye |
| 23:02.56 | Guillotine | well, on the plus side, it seems there still won't be any sanitization of guild messages or bank infos in 2.4 release :D |
| 23:03.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Haha, win |
| 23:03.58 | Guillotine | Con: I don't have MoTD access in my guild. Pro: my guild leaders use whatever addons I tell them to, so I just make one to let me set it through AddOnMessage >.> |
| 23:04.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Guillotine: win |
| 23:04.25 | Aaroja | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:04.44 | art3mis | whats the name of that virtual hoster everyone uses? |
| 23:05.05 | Josh_Borke | who's everyone? |
| 23:05.05 | art3mis | inode.com? |
| 23:05.05 | ScytheBlade1 | lindoe.com |
| 23:05.09 | art3mis | thanks |
| 23:05.14 | ScytheBlade1 | *linode.com |
| 23:05.15 | Guillotine | linode I thought |
| 23:05.21 | ScytheBlade1 | I is for epic typing skills |
| 23:05.48 | Guillotine | I really need to get my own linode hosting |
| 23:05.58 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 23:06.07 | nevcairiel | linode is rather expensive for what they offer, imho |
| 23:06.13 | ScytheBlade1 | As compared to? |
| 23:06.28 | Guillotine | You know a cheaper place? |
| 23:06.36 | nevcairiel | not sure how prices for hosting are over in US |
| 23:06.49 | nevcairiel | i just did a raw comparison to german hosters |
| 23:08.42 | art3mis | im gonna muck around with VMM stuff |
| 23:08.46 | art3mis | on my new server |
| 23:08.56 | art3mis | so once thats running you guys can play with it ;P |
| 23:09.10 | ScytheBlade1 | oooooohhhhhhh |
| 23:09.15 | ScytheBlade1 | likes that idea |
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| 23:09.33 | nevcairiel | the cheapest v-server here is 4,90 / month, granted it got less guaranteed RAM, but more then double the traffic linode offers |
| 23:09.56 | art3mis | its only a crappy 2.4g with 1gb of ram and an 80gig drive but that should be enough |
| 23:10.12 | cloudwolf | whats going on? |
| 23:10.28 | Guillotine | Blizz announced addons won't be allowed in WotLK |
| 23:10.42 | cloudwolf | WTF? |
| 23:10.45 | art3mis | ScytheBlade1: and itll be on my busniess cable line... 30mbit/5mbit ;P |
| 23:10.46 | cloudwolf | blizz go suck a dick... |
| 23:10.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh. Well then. We should all pack up and go home now, I guess |
| 23:10.56 | ScytheBlade1 | art3mis: shell access? :D |
| 23:11.07 | art3mis | if you dont break it or root me sure ;P |
| 23:11.13 | Industrial | id rather stay for a bit and ding 58 \o/ |
| 23:11.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Bet I've got a 5-line C program that would break it. |
| 23:11.18 | nevcairiel | man Guillotine you we'rent supposed to tell everyone .. now you ruin it for even more people |
| 23:11.18 | cloudwolf | guillotine mind linking their article that says that? |
| 23:11.30 | art3mis | im rather flickle though so you might login one day and fine it not working ;P |
| 23:11.41 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 23:11.43 | art3mis | ScytheBlade1: i'd pe surprised if you didnt ;) |
| 23:11.53 | cloudwolf | are you serious taht they wount be allowing addons? |
| 23:12.26 | Guillotine | the press release: http://guillotine.pastey.net/84102 |
| 23:12.31 | Aaroja | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:12.36 | Aaroja | damn |
| 23:12.41 | Aaroja | :) |
| 23:13.11 | dylanm | Hilarious. |
| 23:13.14 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Aaroja (n=Aaroja@stgt-4dbe43a2.pool.einsundeins.de) |
| 23:13.31 | dylanm | ^____________^ |
| 23:14.08 | cloudwolf | ok thats fake i presume... |
| 23:14.22 | Guillotine | No... you can tell its real by the official signature |
| 23:14.43 | nevcairiel | And its not April 1st, altho it would be a good one |
| 23:14.57 | Guillotine | Alright, we need to arrange that |
| 23:15.03 | Guillotine | zoot: you here? |
| 23:15.11 | Guillotine | we need Curse, WoWI, and zoot to all post that on the same day |
| 23:15.20 | Guillotine | mass chaos |
| 23:15.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Sold. |
| 23:17.06 | Guillotine | oh, and Ace too |
| 23:17.17 | Guillotine | and we can probably get wowhead people to participate |
| 23:17.22 | Guillotine | I am so arranging this |
| 23:17.37 | Lopeppeppy | I'd I'd totally be out of a pseudo-hobby, whee! |
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| 23:19.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Good to know I remember enough C to crash a computer still |
| 23:19.42 | art3mis | hey i have a question |
| 23:19.48 | art3mis | in the ingame addons |
| 23:20.06 | zenzelezz | that's not a question |
| 23:20.14 | art3mis | for coords, those coords are just based off of the map, is the decimal limit the addon or a blizz thing? |
| 23:20.29 | art3mis | i accidently hit enter while typeing ;P |
| 23:20.39 | nevcairiel | addon limit |
| 23:20.44 | nevcairiel | you get a real float back |
| 23:20.54 | ScytheBlade1 | You get a MASSIVE float backl |
| 23:20.56 | ScytheBlade1 | *back |
| 23:20.57 | nevcairiel | most addons just format it to "xx.x" or xx.xx even |
| 23:21.15 | Aaroja | but I think having more than 2 digits after the comma is rather helpful |
| 23:21.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Aaroja: you get like 15 digits |
| 23:21.37 | art3mis | thats fine |
| 23:21.41 | Aaroja | thats not what I meant |
| 23:21.44 | Guillotine | Really, it gives it as a decimal of the percentage of map |
| 23:21.45 | Guillotine | e.g. |
| 23:21.48 | art3mis | i was curious if ist an ingame limit or an outgame |
| 23:21.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 23:21.49 | Guillotine | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:21.50 | ScytheBlade1 | From 0 to 1 |
| 23:21.58 | Guillotine | It gives it VERY accurately |
| 23:22.01 | art3mis | im looking for super accuracy ;P |
| 23:22.05 | ScytheBlade1 | You have it |
| 23:22.10 | art3mis | groovy |
| 23:22.11 | Guillotine | you can get up to about 8 decimals |
| 23:22.14 | Aaroja | I know what you want to say but I meant something different |
| 23:22.30 | Aaroja | You can use GPS to get the location of a car |
| 23:22.40 | Aaroja | exactily to 1 mm |
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| 23:22.54 | Aaroja | but even if its 1 m i know where the car is :) |
| 23:23.03 | nevcairiel | any ingame tracking addons i know only use 4 numbers, so 2 decimals, and its pretty much accurate enough to place pins on the minimap hitting herb spawns =P |
| 23:23.14 | cloudwolf | so who wants to help a noob at addon making!? |
| 23:23.15 | Aaroja | thats the point ^^ |
| 23:23.35 | cloudwolf | 1 on 1 that is lol with out this channel spammed |
| 23:23.41 | cloudwolf | (if its possible :D) |
| 23:23.45 | Guillotine | Someone whos getting paid probably :P |
| 23:23.58 | Guillotine | You're probably better off looking at other addons and just asking questions you have here |
| 23:24.00 | Aaroja | *ducking* |
| 23:24.08 | nevcairiel | oh and |
| 23:24.09 | nevcairiel | ~pil |
| 23:24.10 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 23:24.13 | Guillotine | Yes, and that |
| 23:24.14 | ScytheBlade1 | art3mis: instead of me crashing your server, instead, I'll simply just drop a "do_not_run_me" binary in my home directory and wait for you to find it ;) |
| 23:24.54 | Guillotine | art3mis: if you get that set up, you will be my hero |
| 23:25.05 | Guillotine | I'd love to be able to try that stuff before buying my own linode server |
| 23:25.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Guillotine: it's identical to having your own box with root. |
| 23:25.46 | Guillotine | Still :P |
| 23:25.55 | nevcairiel | only that its mostly small and slow |
| 23:26.06 | art3mis | heh it's all in fun |
| 23:26.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Ehh I wouldn't cal 10 megabytes/sec upstream slow ;) |
| 23:26.17 | ScytheBlade1 | *call |
| 23:26.19 | art3mis | this used to be my sbs2003 test server |
| 23:26.32 | art3mis | so now its a screw around machine since that project is done |
| 23:26.49 | nevcairiel | ScytheBlade1: more like ram/cpu power-wise |
| 23:26.56 | cloudwolf | any one whana help me? XD |
| 23:27.11 | Guillotine | cloudwolf: ask a question and we'll try to answer. Things like 'help me' don't work too well though |
| 23:27.32 | cloudwolf | yeah well the thing is im pretty much a complete noob at it so i cant realy point one thing out at a time |
| 23:27.47 | Aaroja | welcome to the club ^^ |
| 23:27.48 | cloudwolf | plus this channel gets so much other topics going that it would be hard to read and try in time |
| 23:27.50 | Guillotine | have you ever done any programming in any language? |
| 23:28.05 | cloudwolf | Minor amount in Jass |
| 23:28.36 | Guillotine | wow |
| 23:28.38 | cloudwolf | but no real official language |
| 23:28.40 | Guillotine | I haven't done Jass in forever |
| 23:28.45 | Guillotine | Jass is real enough |
| 23:29.02 | cloudwolf | i know the basic layout of lua and jass |
| 23:29.10 | cloudwolf | but i don't know how to do what i want to make it do lol |
| 23:29.30 | Guillotine | well, you can take a look through PIL |
| 23:29.33 | Guillotine | and wowwiki helps a lot too |
| 23:29.51 | foxlit | If you wan to, describe what you want to do |
| 23:29.53 | cloudwolf | been there but like i want ot know how to make a slash command |
| 23:29.57 | foxlit | We can then point you at keywords to look at |
| 23:30.14 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:HOWTOs |
| 23:30.28 | Guillotine | http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Create_a_Slash_Command |
| 23:30.40 | foxlit | It's http://www.wowwiki.com/Creating_a_slash_command now :/ |
| 23:30.53 | foxlit | But either redirects, so it isn't that much of a problem |
| 23:31.34 | Aaroja | Is it not possible to make "SendChatMessage" work in "OnEvent"? |
| 23:31.46 | cloudwolf | is the slash command in the lua file? the xml to my understanding is the visuals |
| 23:31.47 | Guillotine | Its possible |
| 23:31.49 | foxlit | It should be. |
| 23:31.53 | Guillotine | cloud: yes, in lua file |
| 23:31.59 | cloudwolf | ty |
| 23:32.20 | foxlit | XML is primarily a visual description; HOWEVER, it may contain blocks of code |
| 23:32.32 | Aaroja | because every time I try to inluce this in my OnEvent my debug-message shows up but the SendChatMessage doesn't... only assigned to a button |
| 23:32.33 | cloudwolf | btw just to let you know what im trying to make(ive posted it in the lua dev forum no responses in a couple days lol) is a basic calculator |
| 23:32.49 | nevcairiel | i should write a addon that lives out of one xml file, just for the shit of it =P |
| 23:32.50 | foxlit | buttons, that type of thing? |
| 23:32.59 | cloudwolf | nah no buttons |
| 23:33.02 | cloudwolf | thats too advanced for me |
| 23:33.18 | Guillotine | So people enter an expression in a textbox and it outputs the result? |
| 23:33.29 | cloudwolf | just pure /calc (functionex:add sub mul div) [value] {value} |
| 23:33.39 | Guillotine | easy enough |
| 23:33.43 | cloudwolf | afk a min |
| 23:33.44 | foxlit | But then you get into the fancy land of string matching |
| 23:34.14 | nevcairiel | at least string matching is pure logical code and no crazy xml |
| 23:34.15 | cloudwolf | yep i opend up questhelper to look at it cus all of its commands are string based and just looked at it like uhh shit... whats all this |
| 23:35.14 | cloudwolf | any one here use notpad ++? |
| 23:35.35 | nevcairiel | i do |
| 23:35.50 | foxlit | nev: but it's a whole stew of crazy preg syntax with no logical XML in it! |
| 23:36.03 | Industrial | ding 58 |
| 23:36.12 | nevcairiel | wait what, preg in lua? |
| 23:36.14 | Guillotine | Industrial: grats |
| 23:36.30 | cloudwolf | grats industrail heh (im 62 rogue :D) |
| 23:36.57 | foxlit | well, some variation of regex |
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| 23:37.27 | nevcairiel | but if his format is as simple as he pointed out above, he could just use string.split |
| 23:37.28 | cloudwolf | is there a way to create private temp channels to talk 1 on 1 with some one in here? |
| 23:37.32 | Industrial | this is gunne be my second 70, first alliance char like ever above level 20 :p |
| 23:37.42 | nevcairiel | like |
| 23:37.44 | foxlit | Cloudwolf: whispers |
| 23:37.51 | cloudwolf | no |
| 23:37.58 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:37.59 | cloudwolf | like a diff channel with only 2 people in it me and the other person |
| 23:38.07 | cloudwolf | more like an IM than a giant chat channel |
| 23:38.14 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:38.19 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:38.25 | Guillotine | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:38.34 | Guillotine | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:38.36 | foxlit | I missed "in here" |
| 23:38.37 | Guillotine | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:38.57 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:39.02 | Industrial | >_> |
| 23:39.11 | Guillotine | We are such jerks today |
| 23:39.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Industrial: lol |
| 23:39.16 | Guillotine | It's awesome |
| 23:39.17 | foxlit | jerk! |
| 23:39.31 | Sixen | ~seen kd3 |
| 23:39.34 | purl | kd3 is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowhead #wowace #wowwiki, last said: 'crap. need to find a green shirt before I head out today'. |
| 23:39.41 | nevcairiel | lua> local calc = function(input) local operator, operand1, operand2 = string.split(" ", input); if operator == "add" then return operand1 + operand2 --[[ more operators here ]] end end; return calc("add 1 2") |
| 23:39.41 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 3 |
| 23:39.43 | nevcairiel | tada! |
| 23:40.17 | foxlit | "1 Day until sales begin" |
| 23:40.26 | foxlit | It's tomorrow already! |
| 23:41.19 | cloudwolf | lol tobad nev that confused me |
| 23:41.42 | cloudwolf | no idea if operand1 and operand2 are divided by spaces to register the diff |
| 23:42.20 | cloudwolf | buty ty nevcairiel ile add you to a query lol so if i need help i can ask you also :P |
| 23:43.40 | Shirik|AFK | wheee |
| 23:43.46 | Shirik|AFK | I have determined the code for my robot works perfectly |
| 23:43.59 | Shirik|AFK | it also overloads the batteries triggering the fault circuit to cut all power |
| 23:44.00 | nevcairiel | there is no such thing as perfect code |
| 23:44.10 | Shirik|AFK | it's really cool, you double click it and the whole thing shuts down |
| 23:44.14 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 23:44.24 | Shirik|AFK | but it also proves my fault circuit works perfectly! |
| 23:44.32 | Aaroja | ^.- |
| 23:44.34 | Shirik|AFK | So I left the nubs to figure out why the motors are hooked up wrong :P |
| 23:44.46 | Shirik|AFK | told them I'd be back at 11 after raid :P |
| 23:48.44 | *** join/#wowi-lounge dylanm (n=dylanm@c-98-224-225-196.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 23:57.29 | Tuller | there's a such thing as perfect code |
| 23:57.37 | Tuller | for some definition of perfect |
| 23:58.18 | Aaroja | lua> true==false |
| 23:58.18 | lua_bot | Aaroja: false |
| 23:58.25 | Aaroja | thats a perfect code^^ |
| 23:58.37 | Tuller | write the proof |
| 23:59.12 | Aaroja | lua> true!=false |
| 23:59.12 | lua_bot | Aaroja: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near 'true' |
| 23:59.16 | Aaroja | damn^^ |
| 23:59.21 | Aaroja | whats "is not" |
| 23:59.23 | Aaroja | ? |
| 23:59.26 | Cairenn | ~= |
| 23:59.29 | Aaroja | thanks |
| 23:59.39 | Aaroja | lua> true~=false |
| 23:59.39 | lua_bot | Aaroja: true |
| 23:59.43 | Aaroja | see? |
