| 00:05.33 | Shirik | obviously I will find the solution |
| 00:05.35 | Shirik | do you know why? |
| 00:05.47 | Shirik | Because Visual Studio is god when its memory debugging capabilities are used |
| 00:06.08 | batrick | ya well |
| 00:06.15 | batrick | i'm too lazy to track it down with gdb |
| 00:06.21 | *** join/#wowi-lounge dylanm (n=dylanm@c-98-224-225-196.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 00:06.52 | Shirik | you know why? Because gdb is EVIL |
| 00:07.38 | batrick | sif |
| 00:07.47 | Shirik | I remember using gdb once |
| 00:07.50 | Shirik | it helped me find the problem |
| 00:07.54 | Shirik | but it was slow and painful |
| 00:07.59 | Shirik | I like it fast, hard and fast. |
| 00:08.12 | Shirik | and Visual Studio gives that to me unrelentingly |
| 00:08.29 | *** join/#wowi-lounge dinesh-work__ (n=chatzill@c-68-36-93-207.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 00:08.44 | batrick | ya well you got a good days work catching up with what i've done :P |
| 00:08.51 | batrick | so we'lls ee who finds it first! |
| 00:11.27 | kd3 | gah. did they disable transports? the rutheran/darkshore boat doesn't apepar to be working |
| 00:11.31 | kd3 | on the TTR |
| 00:13.16 | Shirik | ptr |
| 00:13.22 | Shirik | er |
| 00:13.23 | Shirik | ttr* |
| 00:13.56 | Shirik | bah I can't come up with an acronym for TTR |
| 00:14.25 | Shirik | so kd3, this stress test |
| 00:14.27 | Shirik | when is it? |
| 00:14.41 | kd3 | sunday. noon-3 PST |
| 00:17.42 | Kaso | TTR stands for Tap Tap Revolution, best game ever on the iPhone |
| 00:18.15 | Tem|AFK | I just lost the game |
| 00:18.27 | WobWork | They totally should have called it 'Horadric Glass' |
| 00:19.57 | Shirik | Cairenn|afk: ping |
| 00:20.22 | Kaso | Tem|AFK, now you made me loose too |
| 00:20.39 | Tem|AFK | that's the point, isn't it? |
| 00:20.42 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Guillotine (n=Guilloti@cpe-76-167-213-238.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 00:20.42 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+v Guillotine] by ChanServ |
| 00:21.16 | Kaso | The point of guns is to shoot people, doesnt mean i cant be pissed off if someone shoots me :> |
| 00:21.31 | Tem|AFK | lol |
| 00:21.45 | art3mis | yes it does |
| 00:22.24 | Guillotine | You know microsoft is losing ground when they stoop to this for advertisement emails: "Don't be Chicken - Try Office Live Small Business" |
| 00:22.36 | art3mis | no thats good |
| 00:22.36 | Guillotine | thanks for insulting me. I think I'll buy your product now |
| 00:22.44 | art3mis | most people dopnt wanna be chickens |
| 00:22.52 | art3mis | they prefer to be sheeple ;P |
| 00:22.57 | Guillotine | lol |
| 00:24.32 | Shirik | Isn't VB6 CLI? |
| 00:25.07 | Tem|AFK | why can't VB die? |
| 00:25.20 | Shirik | I completely agree |
| 00:25.48 | Tem|AFK | if you're too dumb to learn a real programming language, you shouldn't be writing programs |
| 00:26.42 | Shirik | Warning: Quick statistical test of HKM.exe suggests that HKM.exe is either compressed, encrypted, or otherwise difficult to read. Do you want to continue code analysis? |
| 00:26.43 | Shirik | -_- |
| 00:27.02 | Shirik | I always wonder why people say they "post the source code" and then encrypt the EXE |
| 00:27.05 | Shirik | what are you trying to hide? |
| 00:27.07 | Shirik | hmmmmmm? |
| 00:27.10 | Shirik | OR IS THAT NOT THE SOURCE CODE |
| 00:29.03 | Kaso | Who's this thats releasing source code and an encryped binary? |
| 00:29.19 | Tem|AFK | probably some boob on wowi |
| 00:30.13 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Lopeppeppy (n=Lopeppep@cpe-72-230-38-163.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 00:30.16 | Shirik | let's see if I can figure out what he encrypted it with |
| 00:31.58 | Shirik | "PECompact 2.x-2.5x" That sounds like a compressor, not an encryptor |
| 00:32.09 | Shirik | I'll have to go look that up, but for the time being, it's getting removed :p |
| 00:33.54 | |pez| | I burned my thumb. |
| 00:34.07 | |pez| | I expect huge bump of gooey water tomorrow. |
| 00:35.17 | break19 | Shirik: pecompact is an exe compression utility. i remeber it from my pc days |
| 00:35.40 | Shirik | it also makes it more difficult to analyze the exe :P |
| 00:36.05 | Kaso | Well, there isnt a huge amount of difference between encryptors and compressor at that level really |
| 00:36.19 | Kaso | cept encryptors usualy try to be a little more sneaky |
| 00:36.25 | break19 | you could shave a few % of size off most exe's at the cost of increased load time. you could get the utility and decompress it |
| 00:36.37 | Shirik | does the utility do decompression too? |
| 00:36.40 | break19 | yea |
| 00:36.41 | Shirik | I've seen compressors that only do it one way |
| 00:36.45 | Shirik | ok that's good |
| 00:37.28 | break19 | 90% sure anyway.. its been a long time since exe size mattered to me.. especially now, since all i care about is .app now :) |
| 00:37.51 | Shirik | oh wow |
| 00:38.00 | Shirik | I already have a tool to unpack PECompact-ed files |
| 00:38.10 | Shirik | Cidan, daily I find some new tool in this kit that's awesome |
| 00:38.13 | break19 | unzip :) |
| 00:39.07 | Kaso | theres a whole field of hacking devoted to circumventing compressors/encryptors.. |
| 00:39.34 | Kaso | Cos the malware guys love to pack up their exes to stop em being picked apart |
| 00:42.42 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Funkeh` (n=funk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Ace3/BigWigs/funkeh) |
| 00:45.05 | Kaso | Fuck websites that block right click |
| 00:45.06 | Kaso | seriously |
| 00:45.28 | Cide | yep |
| 00:45.38 | Kaso | if i want to download your images shitty javascript wont stop me. All it does it stop my mouse gestures from working properly |
| 00:46.10 | Duman | heh |
| 00:46.29 | widger|work | ScytheBlade1: Ping |
| 00:46.29 | Duman | no kidding |
| 00:46.29 | Duman | I never understood that |
| 00:46.29 | Duman | doesn't stop jack crap |
| 00:46.47 | Kaso | it stops non-techy people |
| 00:46.53 | Kaso | but a better way to block noobs downloading your images is to put them as a background with a transparent gif overlayed |
| 00:47.23 | Duman | haha yeah, i've seen that, too |
| 00:47.41 | Duman | I oculd just point my browser at my local squid cache and give the site teh finger, tho ;-) |
| 00:47.51 | Duman | hell, or just go thru my local browser cache |
| 00:48.01 | Guillotine | our get the image name from source in most cases |
| 00:48.03 | Kaso | or read the source code and work out the url |
| 00:48.03 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Lopeppeppy (n=Lopeppep@cpe-72-230-38-163.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 00:48.03 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+v Lopeppeppy] by ChanServ |
| 00:48.08 | Guillotine | hah, beat you to it Kaso! |
| 00:48.10 | Kaso | :< |
| 00:48.21 | Keias | Hello, Lopeppeppy |
| 00:48.26 | widger|work | Heya Lopeppeppy =) |
| 00:48.33 | Shirik | ~x de en Kimina, Du hast keine Rechte, um auf diese Seite zuzugreifen. Folgende Gründe könnten z.B. dafür verantwortlich sein: |
| 00:48.34 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, widger|work |
| 00:48.46 | Shirik | I am not right? |
| 00:49.01 | Guillotine | no, you are wrong |
| 00:49.04 | Kaso | but at least the transparent gif doesnt stop the browser working properly whilst also failing to stop people download images |
| 00:49.37 | widger|work | ~x wo bu ji dao |
| 00:49.48 | widger|work | purl fails at pidgin =P |
| 00:50.13 | Guillotine | ScytheBlade1: lol, I like your response to the guild tab :P |
| 00:50.29 | Shirik | widgertick: wo bu? |
| 00:50.33 | Shirik | What language do you want it in? |
| 00:50.42 | Shirik | ~x de en Du versuchst, den Beitrag eines anderen Benutzers zu ändern oder auf administrative Funktionen zuzugreifen. Überprüfe bitte in den Forenregeln, ob du diese Aktion ausführen darfst. |
| 00:50.50 | widger|work | Oh, I see |
| 00:50.53 | Shirik | "de -> en" german to english |
| 00:50.57 | widger|work | ~x zh en wo bu ji dao |
| 00:51.03 | Shirik | lol |
| 00:51.05 | widger|work | O_o |
| 00:51.11 | widger|work | No, you don't know. =P |
| 00:51.28 | widger|work | Purl bu ji dao zhongguo ^_^ |
| 00:52.21 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Wilbur (n=blanejnr@92.3.224.101) |
| 00:52.35 | Shirik | searching for 'CALL EDI', found in: 0043B0D2 |
| 00:52.35 | Shirik | verifying PECompact signature ... ok |
| 00:52.41 | Shirik | lets fight! (runnig application, placing BP on Load Library call etc.)... |
| 00:52.41 | Shirik | ... |
| 00:52.42 | Shirik | rofl |
| 00:52.46 | Shirik | what a great tool |
| 00:52.53 | Shirik | I love people with fun status messages |
| 00:55.04 | Guill|Fun | <3 |
| 00:55.19 | Shirik | ~kill Guill|Fun |
| 00:55.19 | purl | ACTION shoots a magneto-ionized fluxquark gun at Guill|Fun |
| 00:55.35 | Guill|Fun | what a horrible way to show your love :( |
| 00:56.10 | Shirik | It's fun for me |
| 01:00.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Guill|Fun: lol, ty |
| 01:00.16 | ScytheBlade1 | widger|work: pong |
| 01:00.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Guillotine: I quite like it myself ;) |
| 01:01.05 | Guillotine | now we need to get sounds embeddable in chat |
| 01:01.10 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 01:01.12 | Guillotine | so I can play the murloc sound whenever someone logs online |
| 01:01.12 | ScytheBlade1 | That'll be the day |
| 01:01.27 | break19 | mrarglelargle! |
| 01:01.45 | ScytheBlade1 | If you EVER get that to work |
| 01:01.48 | ScytheBlade1 | I'll outright strangle you |
| 01:02.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Whoa, wtf |
| 01:02.24 | ScytheBlade1 | I have *TEN* mod points on slashdot |
| 01:03.28 | ScytheBlade1 | You have moderator access and 10 points (expire on 2008-03-09). |
| 01:04.05 | WobWork | wait |
| 01:04.10 | WobWork | what did you want in Mandarin? |
| 01:04.20 | WobWork | "I do not know Mandarin"? =P |
| 01:05.03 | WobWork | Wo bu ju dao Zhongguo is rather literally: "I do not know. Chinese" |
| 01:05.15 | WobWork | *i |
| 01:06.43 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Kandok1 (n=Testing@adsl-068-159-119-207.sip.gsp.bellsouth.net) |
| 01:07.03 | WobWork | you want "Wo bu shou Hanyu" |
| 01:07.12 | WobWork | I don't speak Chinese |
| 01:08.31 | kd3 | oh whee, broken. |
| 01:08.44 | kd3 | the teleporter on the TTR is offering to teleport me to horde starting zones. |
| 01:08.47 | kd3 | I'm on a dwarf hunter atm |
| 01:09.01 | Shirik | ~x en zh I do not know Chinese. |
| 01:09.07 | MentalPower | lol |
| 01:09.08 | Shirik | ow |
| 01:09.09 | Shirik | ok |
| 01:09.13 | Shirik | purl, thanks |
| 01:09.13 | purl | no worries, Shirik |
| 01:09.31 | break19 | heh |
| 01:10.48 | WobWork | actually I misinterpret. "Wo bu ji dao Zhongguo" =P It's "I do not know China" |
| 01:11.53 | Xinhuan | o_O that's a near perfect translation |
| 01:12.16 | Xinhuan | from purl that is |
| 01:13.38 | kd3 | awesome. I'm now in belf territory as a dwarf huntard |
| 01:14.11 | Xinhuan | æ±‰è¯ is correct translation for "chinese" but åŽæ–‡ is better hehe |
| 01:14.30 | Shirik | Xinhuan: It may be hard-coded |
| 01:14.36 | Shirik | for standard phrases like that |
| 01:14.39 | Xinhuan | i doubt that |
| 01:14.43 | NightHawkTheSane | haha.. "I realize Twitter is just below Britney Spears on the list of things we expect to see go down..." |
| 01:15.00 | Xinhuan | "Chinese" has a lot of differentmeanings |
| 01:15.08 | Xinhuan | here it means the spoken language |
| 01:15.20 | Shirik | I'm only aware of one usage of it |
| 01:15.23 | Shirik | in English |
| 01:15.24 | Xinhuan | but it can also mean the race, the country, the ancestry |
| 01:15.42 | Xinhuan | it has at least 10 different meanings heh, even in English |
| 01:15.47 | Shirik | in that sentence above it really only has one |
| 01:15.54 | Shirik | And that's a pretty common sentence |
| 01:15.55 | art3mis | you're forgetting how particularly fun it is to call japanese people chinese too xin ;) |
| 01:16.05 | Shirik | I kill people who do that art3mis |
| 01:16.05 | Xinhuan | hence i was pretty surprised at the accuracy of the context of the bot translation |
| 01:16.19 | art3mis | its pretty funny |
| 01:16.28 | art3mis | considering the feuds |
| 01:16.50 | art3mis | all orientals/asians are aliens anyways |
| 01:17.15 | art3mis | soon their plan to dominate the world will be complete and we'll recieve a call from the mothership to go off and populate elsewhere |
| 01:19.39 | *** join/#wowi-lounge KaoS` (i=spam@about/apple/macbookpro/KaoS) |
| 01:21.54 | break19 | certainly good at 'populating' look at China for cryin out loud. |
| 01:22.22 | |pez| | Ah, sucks. I'm playing around with a Drupal installation, and testing out the ecommerce thing. |
| 01:22.27 | |pez| | wll, tried to |
| 01:22.44 | |pez| | and it seems my Drupal installation doesn't work with the most recent ecommerce module. |
| 01:22.51 | break19 | Ru Paul? |
| 01:23.21 | WobWork | Xinhuan: I nkow! |
| 01:24.16 | Xinhuan | ~x en zh I hate you very much |
| 01:24.19 | Xinhuan | lets try that |
| 01:24.27 | Xinhuan | whoa perfect |
| 01:25.00 | WobWork | ~x en zh fuck you! |
| 01:25.07 | Xinhuan | rofl |
| 01:25.08 | WobWork | rofl |
| 01:25.24 | break19 | all I see is backslashes and number/letter combos |
| 01:25.31 | kd3 | I'm not sure I wanna know what that translated as |
| 01:25.33 | Xinhuan | you need to install east asian fonts on your cpu ;p |
| 01:25.36 | WobWork | hm, I think you need the charset |
| 01:26.06 | break19 | heh i dont -need- to, since I cant understand it anyway :) |
| 01:26.15 | Xinhuan | its under Regional Settings for win xp |
| 01:26.26 | break19 | that means nothing to me. |
| 01:26.46 | break19 | Xinhuan: þÿDarwin blackbox.local 9.2.0 Darwin Kernel Version 9.2.0: Tue Feb 5 16:15:19 PST 2008; root:xnu-1228.3.13~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh powerpc |
| 01:27.02 | Xinhuan | well it still means something to you |
| 01:27.07 | Xinhuan | "you need to install east asian fonts on your cpu ;p" |
| 01:27.13 | break19 | :) |
| 01:28.22 | WobWork | at least purl is polite about the whole thing =P |
| 01:28.44 | Xinhuan | indeed |
| 01:29.05 | Xinhuan | btw, purl translated "fuck you" to chinese in 4 words that means "going to have sex with you" |
| 01:29.21 | WobWork | Using the most polite versions of the characters =) |
| 01:29.31 | WobWork | er words |
| 01:29.39 | Xinhuan | i literally rofled out loud |
| 01:29.47 | WobWork | ~botsnack |
| 01:29.47 | purl | WobWork: aw, gee |
| 01:29.52 | WobWork | purl is a LADY |
| 01:30.19 | WobWork | ~x zh en 与您性交! |
| 01:30.25 | Shirik | rofl |
| 01:30.26 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 01:30.38 | Xinhuan | hahaha |
| 01:31.08 | Shirik | my client displays those characters fine |
| 01:31.11 | Shirik | but I can't type them in :( |
| 01:31.26 | WobWork | I can't either without activating the IME input |
| 01:31.31 | Shirik | If I do, it just becomes this when I hit enter: 与您性交 |
| 01:31.33 | Shirik | omg! |
| 01:31.34 | Xinhuan | ime input ftw |
| 01:31.34 | Shirik | It worked |
| 01:31.36 | Shirik | since when?! |
| 01:31.46 | Shirik | It used to just become ???????? when I hit enter |
| 01:31.51 | Xinhuan | you merely just need your irc client to support utf8 typically |
| 01:32.00 | Xinhuan | the option is off by default in mIRC for eg |
| 01:32.01 | Shirik | it used to display fine but not let me type it in |
| 01:32.03 | Xinhuan | but yu can turn it on |
| 01:32.16 | WobWork | It's clearly due to China's infiltration of the interwebs |
| 01:32.33 | WobWork | how can they take control if they can't display their language? |
| 01:33.01 | WobWork | Damnit, forgot to put a space in front of those lines =P |
| 01:34.16 | Shirik | ? |
| 01:34.25 | Shirik | That's the other thing I hate about this client |
| 01:34.37 | Shirik | it strips out multi-spacing and trailing and leading whitespace |
| 01:35.00 | Cide | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:35.02 | WobWork | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:35.03 | Cide | get xchat |
| 01:35.39 | Shirik | WobWork: Irrelevant, I also want to see when others put spaces, etc. |
| 01:36.10 | Cide | Shirik: you can see it, if you select it with your mouse cursor, iirc |
| 01:36.13 | Cide | but still, stupid |
| 01:36.20 | Shirik | no it doesn't exist :P |
| 01:36.35 | Cide | you sure? :P |
| 01:36.35 | Shirik | if I copy-paste it to notepad, etc. |
| 01:36.45 | Cide | try selecting this with your cursor: hi |
| 01:37.14 | Shirik | I see nothing except a single space in between : and "hi" |
| 01:37.27 | Cide | even if you select it? I thought mirc used to show it then :/ |
| 01:37.33 | Shirik | yup |
| 01:37.34 | art3mis | wow your client == lame |
| 01:37.36 | Cide | weird |
| 01:37.37 | Shirik | I don't think it's mirc's doing |
| 01:37.49 | Cide | whose doing would it be then? |
| 01:37.52 | Shirik | nbs |
| 01:37.54 | art3mis | get xircom! |
| 01:37.57 | art3mis | get xircon! |
| 01:38.11 | art3mis | Cide: its car key gnomes |
| 01:38.29 | art3mis | at first they just used to move his keys and wallet around |
| 01:38.45 | art3mis | but that for boring and since hes on irc so much they figured they'd steal whitespace |
| 01:39.01 | art3mis | ScytheBlade1: i didnt know you liked the cock |
| 01:39.09 | ScytheBlade1 | art3mis: what? |
| 01:39.17 | art3mis | : ScytheBlade1 is still weirded out by having 10 mod points on slashdot |
| 01:39.27 | art3mis | mod points on slashdot == like cock |
| 01:39.29 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 01:39.31 | art3mis | its a fact! |
| 01:39.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Do you know how the moderation system works? |
| 01:40.36 | art3mis | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1204852095638.gif |
| 01:40.40 | art3mis | nope |
| 01:40.49 | art3mis | i can honestly say that ive never been to slashdot ever |
| 01:40.53 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 01:40.56 | ScytheBlade1 | ~slashdot |
| 01:41.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Not anymore! hahahaha |
| 01:41.19 | art3mis | still never been to it |
| 01:41.38 | ScytheBlade1 | If you post enough, and your posts get "modded up" |
| 01:41.39 | art3mis | ;) |
| 01:41.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Your karma will increase |
| 01:41.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Once your karma hits a level, you get mod points |
| 01:41.58 | ScytheBlade1 | ... 5 mod points |
| 01:42.02 | ScytheBlade1 | I've never heard of ANYONE getting 10 |
| 01:42.22 | art3mis | so you've been around long enough to be an uber cock lover ;P |
| 01:42.29 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 01:42.29 | Cide | yeah |
| 01:42.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Apparently! |
| 01:42.33 | Cide | that's pretty nerdy, ScytheBlade1 |
| 01:42.37 | Cide | http://tinyurl.com/8hw (sfw) |
| 01:43.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide: it's... yeah. weird. |
| 01:43.41 | Cide | break.com is awesome |
| 01:43.59 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 01:44.25 | art3mis | why i remember the day that dalnet and undernet went "online" |
| 01:44.33 | art3mis | <-- old loser |
| 01:44.38 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 01:44.43 | ScytheBlade1 | I was on dalnet for a few years |
| 01:45.10 | art3mis | dbn3+eagle_1 == pure win |
| 01:45.22 | *** join/#wowi-lounge dylanm (n=dylanm@c-98-224-225-196.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 01:45.36 | art3mis | and phoenix+fluffmods and LiCe used to duel into the sunset |
| 01:45.54 | art3mis | combots were all the rage |
| 01:46.12 | art3mis | and leet speak was just a way to harass visionary, the blind suspected narq |
| 01:46.58 | art3mis | the men were still men |
| 01:47.03 | art3mis | and the women were still men |
| 01:47.05 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 01:47.14 | art3mis | but the fbi didnt know much about is let alone being children ;P |
| 01:47.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Women?! On the internet?! |
| 01:47.16 | Guillotine | haha, I just had an AWESOME idea |
| 01:47.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Surely you jest! |
| 01:47.24 | Lopeppeppy | NO wai. |
| 01:47.28 | WobWork | 'sif |
| 01:47.34 | art3mis | no there were no women back then |
| 01:47.39 | art3mis | well there were |
| 01:48.05 | Cide | http://xkcd.com/322/ |
| 01:48.30 | art3mis | but most had more testosterone and had probably dropped thier testicles more distantly than most of the men ;P |
| 01:49.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide: WHAT LIES |
| 01:49.24 | art3mis | like a hot chick would own an emp |
| 01:49.27 | art3mis | geez |
| 01:49.34 | Shirik | oh she would |
| 01:49.46 | art3mis | or more importantly be out of the kitchen and with shoes on! |
| 01:49.49 | WobWork | owning an emp automatically applies 'hot' |
| 01:50.12 | WobWork | thus it's a tautology |
| 01:50.15 | art3mis | i like my women like i like my coffee |
| 01:50.21 | art3mis | ground up and in the freezer |
| 01:50.23 | WobWork | ground up and in your freezer? |
| 01:50.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | i like my women like i like my whiskey |
| 01:50.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | 12 years old and mixed up with coke |
| 01:50.49 | art3mis | jinx sexy with yer girlfriend, no complainsies |
| 01:51.17 | WobWork | art3mis: worst attempt at refinagling an xkcd comic ever =P |
| 01:51.25 | art3mis | thanks |
| 01:51.33 | WobWork | EPOCH FAIL |
| 01:51.34 | art3mis | i'll try for much much worse next time |
| 01:51.43 | art3mis | main{goto |
| 01:51.54 | WobWork | art3mis: not enough brackets |
| 01:52.07 | art3mis | thats because the raptor strike happens to fast |
| 01:52.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Of course, the problem with having so many mod points, is trying to spend them |
| 01:52.22 | art3mis | you could randomly ban people |
| 01:52.27 | art3mis | like wob |
| 01:52.28 | art3mis | and cide |
| 01:52.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Except that... I can't |
| 01:52.36 | art3mis | can yuo buy ip bans? |
| 01:52.42 | Cide | art3mis: hm? |
| 01:52.55 | ScytheBlade1 | No, you can't |
| 01:52.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide: read up |
| 01:53.37 | Guillotine | aww, I can't get it to work :( In the character select screen, the addon names are just text strings, right? |
| 01:53.45 | Guillotine | I know color codes work with them |
| 01:53.46 | Cide | ScytheBlade1: read up for what? |
| 01:53.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide: what art3mis was talking about ;P |
| 01:54.13 | Cide | well yeah, but I still don't get what he's saying |
| 01:54.24 | Cide | oh |
| 01:54.27 | Cide | I thought he said |
| 01:54.34 | Cide | "and cide: can you buy ip bans?" |
| 01:54.43 | ScytheBlade1 | lol, no |
| 01:54.43 | Cide | but he was gonna ban me |
| 01:54.46 | ScytheBlade1 | He wants to IP ban you ;) |
| 01:54.51 | Cide | art3mis: http://tinyurl.com/8hw |
| 01:56.24 | art3mis | 1 2girls1cup is enough for me ;P |
| 01:56.33 | Cide | nah, it's nothing like that |
| 01:56.36 | Cide | others can verify |
| 01:56.38 | art3mis | i has a very weak stomach ;) |
| 01:56.47 | ScytheBlade1 | art3mis: then here, have a mediumurl: http://www.mediumurl.com/?r=317986751386338932642202312463 |
| 01:56.52 | art3mis | hah |
| 01:56.57 | art3mis | what about large url? |
| 01:57.03 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.hugeurl.com/?NjFjMTk0Zjk5YmI5YjNjODY3ZWYxYjBjY2M4Njg3YzkmMTMmVm0wd2QyUXlVWGxWV0d4WFlUSm9WMVl3Wkc5V1ZsbDNXa2M1YWxKc1dqQlVWbHBQVjBaYWMySkVUbGhoTVVwVVZtcEdZV015U2tWVWJHaG9UV3N3ZUZacVFtRlRNazE1VTJ0V1ZXSkhhRzlVVm1oRFZWWmFkR1ZHV214U2JHdzFWa2QwYzJGc1NuUmhSemxWVmpOT00xcFZXbUZrUjA1R1pFWlNUbFpVVmtwV2JURXdZVEZrU0ZOclpHcFRSVXBZVkZWYWQxTkdVbFZTYlVacVZtdGFNRlZ0ZUZOVWJVWTJVbFJHVjFaRmIzZFdha1poVjBaT2NtSkdTbWxTTW1oWlYxZDRiMkl3TUhoWGJHUllZbFZhY2x |
| 01:57.09 | art3mis | sweet! |
| 01:57.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Way ahead of you ;) |
| 01:57.15 | art3mis | still not clicking it |
| 01:57.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | art3mis: learn to turn on preview feature |
| 01:57.39 | art3mis | although you could have made a tinyurl of the mediumurl of the hugeurl |
| 01:57.43 | Guillotine | HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 01:57.48 | Guillotine | this is awesome |
| 01:58.05 | art3mis | preview feature? |
| 01:58.16 | art3mis | im fairly certain that xircon doesnt have that ;P |
| 01:58.38 | NightHawkTheSane | there's a certain irony in tinyurl'ing that link |
| 01:59.35 | art3mis | hay cide: http://poststuff5.entensity.net/030308/image.php?pic=hay.gif <-nsfw |
| 02:00.01 | art3mis | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1204853659758.jpg |
| 02:02.02 | Kaso | TRAP |
| 02:05.36 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.3.x ToC: 20300 | WoW programming book http://tinyurl.com/2gdel9 | http://www.cairenn-mmorpg.com/images/various/SickOfSnow.jpg |
| 02:09.16 | Shirik | wtf ScytheBlade1 |
| 02:15.25 | Guillotine | Another leet discovery by yours truly: http://www.geocities.com/curse.guillotine/DIAF.zip |
| 02:15.33 | Guillotine | make sure its enabled in the AddOns panel first though |
| 02:15.40 | Guillotine | btw, only works on PTR |
| 02:16.19 | Cide | Guillotine: ## Interface: 20300 eh? |
| 02:16.41 | Guillotine | mm |
| 02:17.07 | Cide | (does the texture actually work?) |
| 02:17.38 | Kaso | geocities? that still exists? |
| 02:18.07 | art3mis | http://youtube.com/watch?v=twQlpFrm5iM |
| 02:18.47 | kd3 | heh, whee for breaking yet another text area with textures |
| 02:19.01 | Cide | does the texture work? |
| 02:19.04 | Guillotine | yup |
| 02:19.05 | kd3 | ya |
| 02:19.07 | Cide | cool |
| 02:19.11 | Cide | now all we need is an Ace icon |
| 02:19.14 | Kaso | Holy crap who thought that was a good idea |
| 02:19.15 | Cide | so we can remove that -Ace2- text |
| 02:19.20 | Guillotine | yup |
| 02:19.21 | Cide | and replace it with a huge icon |
| 02:19.25 | Guillotine | just make an Ace tga and you can add it on |
| 02:19.29 | Kaso | as if the redicoulous colors werent enough |
| 02:19.32 | Cide | I was being sarcastic |
| 02:19.47 | Cide | that's the worst fucking idea ever |
| 02:19.51 | Guillotine | no |
| 02:19.51 | Guillotine | do it |
| 02:19.57 | art3mis | http://avn.com/index.cfm?objectid=86454165-CF84-E5D1-7AA0E6EF4620BBD6 ads NSFW content is |
| 02:19.59 | Guillotine | or I'll go through the repository and do it myself |
| 02:20.00 | Cide | I just copyright'd the idea |
| 02:20.05 | Cide | (don't ask) |
| 02:20.11 | Cide | you're not allowed to now |
| 02:20.27 | Guillotine | well, all my addons from now on will have an icon :P |
| 02:20.31 | Guillotine | I wonder |
| 02:20.33 | Guillotine | if I can break it |
| 02:20.41 | Guillotine | by putting unitid links there |
| 02:20.49 | art3mis | The House Judiciary Subcommittee on the Courts has passed the Prioritizing Resources and Organization for Intellectual Property Act of 2007, putting structure and resources behind the Department of Justice's pledge to crack down on intellectual-property crimes. |
| 02:21.05 | Guillotine | ahh, nm, it has its own Onclick |
| 02:21.21 | art3mis | The group also said it is pleased with the addition of language that requires the Department of Justice to show a "substantial connection" between property it tries to seize and the infringing activity. |
| 02:22.01 | Kaso | Holy crap im glad that damages for breaking DRM bit was removed |
| 02:22.12 | Kaso | i mean the DCMA is bad but that wouldve been rediculous |
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| 02:47.22 | Cairenn | :( MentalPower|Sick |
| 02:47.36 | MentalPower|Sick | yeah :( |
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| 02:50.20 | Shirik | o.o rings can have sockets in them? |
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| 02:57.26 | Lunessa | :( I'm sorry you're not feeling well. |
| 02:57.48 | art3mis | http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=200705allure04bmu3.jpg this will make you feel better |
| 02:57.52 | Lunessa | Sorry I've been quiet all day - work and IM's from guildees have been kicking my ass all day. |
| 02:57.56 | art3mis | Kristin Chenoweth |
| 02:59.16 | MentalPower|Sick | art3mis: wrong gender :P |
| 02:59.31 | MentalPower|Sick | Lunessa: thanks, I appreciate it |
| 03:00.16 | Lopeppeppy | I'd hug you too, Mental|Power, but um... I am just getting over sick too! |
| 03:00.35 | Lunessa | Lunessa's Law #3,876 - Never try to guess the gender, sexual orientation, or kinks of people over the internet. Just let them TELL you. |
| 03:01.05 | Lopeppeppy | Peppy's Law #1 Because they ALWAYS will! :P |
| 03:01.10 | MentalPower|Sick | Lunessa: lol! |
| 03:01.23 | art3mis | mental is a slashdotter too? |
| 03:01.31 | MentalPower|Sick | not really |
| 03:01.47 | MentalPower|Sick | I visit /. every once in a while, but I've never commented |
| 03:01.49 | art3mis | scroll up a bit and you'll understand the joke ;P |
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| 03:04.35 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:04.43 | art3mis | i keep forgetting to do that |
| 03:04.53 | ckknight | I have feelings too. |
| 03:05.06 | art3mis | it ignores all thee signoffs joins and parts ;P |
| 03:05.14 | art3mis | not you when yuo talk snookums |
| 03:05.48 | Lunessa | Heh, now you need to send him a pretty picture to cheer him up. |
| 03:12.44 | Duman | hmm |
| 03:13.04 | Duman | didn't realize the client can still query the actual level of ??-level PC mobs |
| 03:13.15 | Shirik | how do you kick someone from chat room in wow? |
| 03:13.20 | Cide | Duman: you can't |
| 03:13.22 | Cide | Shirik: /chathelp |
| 03:13.30 | Duman | cide: eh? cowtip does it somehow |
| 03:13.37 | Cide | Duman: oh, pc mobs |
| 03:13.39 | Cide | that would be 'players' |
| 03:13.41 | Duman | any PC I mouse-over will show ?? for a sec, and then the level |
| 03:13.45 | Duman | yes, players :) |
| 03:13.52 | Cide | that's probably possible |
| 03:13.53 | Shirik | Cide: <3 |
| 03:15.20 | Duman | it's probably /ckick since invite is /cinvite |
| 03:15.28 | Shirik | already got it but thanks |
| 03:16.43 | Shirik | Duman: >< |
| 03:16.46 | Shirik | What? |
| 03:16.49 | Shirik | It has text and nicknames? |
| 03:16.56 | Shirik | like |
| 03:17.00 | Shirik | what else is it supposed to have >< |
| 03:17.11 | Duman | the commands |
| 03:17.21 | Duman | I'm kidding, anyway :P |
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| 03:25.54 | Kaso | wtf, does MySQL gain the case sensitivity of its host OS in relation to table names |
| 03:26.08 | WobWork | not afaik |
| 03:26.25 | MentalPower|Sick | prolly not |
| 03:26.32 | MentalPower|Sick | at least I don't think so |
| 03:26.59 | WobWork | I do know it tends to lowercase everything |
| 03:27.05 | batrick | I see shirik doing this: http://xkcd.com/227/ |
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| 03:27.35 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 03:28.04 | Cide | me too |
| 03:28.13 | MentalPower|Sick | nice... |
| 03:29.49 | Kaso | Basically i'm using this crappy api provided for my by lectures that uses "SELECT MapID FROM Map", and database has a "map" table, on my local windows based MySQL server the code works, on the remote debian based server it does not |
| 03:30.09 | Kaso | i dont want to have to de/recompile the API to fix it again! |
| 03:30.58 | MentalPower|Sick | Kaso: hmm... you might be right |
| 03:31.08 | MentalPower|Sick | yup you are |
| 03:31.17 | MentalPower|Sick | its case sensitive based on OS |
| 03:31.34 | Kaso | This is the most crappy code ive ever been provided by a lecturer |
| 03:31.43 | Kaso | oh well, /me goes to fix it again |
| 03:33.12 | Kaso | bugger, cant fix it all cos some of the files wont decompile fully >.< guess ill have to manually exit the SQL table dump they gave us then |
| 03:33.59 | Cairenn | Antiarc, ScytheBlade1 (anyone else that might be bored and feel like digging into something to see whether it is safe or malicious): |
| 03:34.32 | Cairenn | HotKey Mapper |
| 03:34.32 | Cairenn | Hey everyone! I got tired of having to Alt+Tab to control other programs (ie iTunes), so I made this small app that allows you to setup hotkeys for any program. Basically it just sends messages to other apps even if they're in the background. I've tested it with a few games, but I don't know what everyone would use it for, so I need testers. Any bug reports or suggestions are greatly appreciated. Also, so no one has to worry about keylog |
| 03:34.41 | Cairenn | http://dagoob.getmyip.com/hkm |
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| 03:34.58 | Cairenn | don't click the link if you aren't sandboxed |
| 03:35.05 | Cairenn | no idea if it's clean or not |
| 03:35.06 | Kaso | oh, that was the one with the compressed binary Shirik was on earlier. |
| 03:35.11 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 03:35.36 | Cairenn | should have known he'd already brought it in here to play with |
| 03:35.37 | Cairenn | sorry |
| 03:35.55 | Kaso | he didnt actually say much about it, just enough to leave me curious >.< |
| 03:36.09 | Cairenn | it may be completely legit |
| 03:36.11 | Cairenn | it may not |
| 03:36.13 | Kaso | like the tease he is |
| 03:36.34 | batrick | "Mages will get new abilities in the expansion too, believe it or not. In fact, we intend to tone down how strong of a counter warlocks are to mages through the wotlk spells/talents." |
| 03:36.39 | batrick | no wai! |
| 03:37.18 | Cairenn | (10:27:00 PM) Shirik: I can tell you it is compressed (and potentially encrypted) with PECompact. Appears to be v2.5 |
| 03:37.18 | Cairenn | (10:27:20 PM) Shirik: And I can tell you there are strings inside it which reference Windows internet APIs |
| 03:37.18 | Cairenn | (10:27:25 PM) Cairenn: *nod* |
| 03:37.18 | Cairenn | (10:27:26 PM) Shirik: but I can't tell what it does with those API |
| 03:37.33 | Cairenn | due to lack of time to play with it |
| 03:39.12 | batrick | l2gdb shirik |
| 03:39.20 | batrick | set some breakpoints zzz |
| 03:39.26 | Shirik | .... |
| 03:39.36 | Shirik | I disassembled it and looked at the code |
| 03:39.39 | batrick | haha |
| 03:39.40 | Shirik | doesn't help you when it's meaningless |
| 03:42.19 | Lunessa | Anyone who writes a blurb like that, and an App like that... Well... Let's just say "I didn't write it, I don't trust it." |
| 03:43.35 | batrick | Shirik: you set breakpoints on common API functions |
| 03:43.38 | batrick | and disassemble zzz |
| 03:43.50 | Shirik | and let the program run until it hits that API |
| 03:43.52 | Shirik | great idea |
| 03:43.58 | batrick | that's what dummy boxes are for |
| 03:44.02 | Shirik | screw that |
| 03:44.16 | batrick | or better yet, another hard drive |
| 03:44.18 | Cairenn | Lunessa: yup, which is why Shirik (and Seerah, since he posted it a second time) did precisely the right thing and soft deleted the thread(s) until we can verify whether it's safe or not |
| 03:45.10 | Lunessa | Cairenn: I'll admit that I saw the link earlier, but was so busy I forgot to flag it or say anything. |
| 03:45.33 | Shirik | that's because I was being stupid and tried to disassemble it before hiding the thread |
| 03:45.39 | Shirik | thus leaving it up for 30 minutes |
| 03:46.44 | Lunessa | Is it just me, or does some very large percentage of the WoW population self-diagnose OCD and Asperger's? |
| 03:47.17 | Seerah | I have OCD :P (self-diagnosed) |
| 03:47.38 | batrick | #1 rule about psychological disorders is you never try to diagnose yourself :P |
| 03:47.39 | Xinhuan | you must have OCD |
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| 03:49.28 | Shirik | I told my doctor I thought I was ADD :P |
| 03:49.45 | Shirik | then he said "no you have clinical depression, but let's take these blood tests anyway" |
| 03:49.56 | Shirik | And that's how I found out I was hyperthyroid |
| 03:50.04 | Shirik | 3.5x normal level at the time, lol |
| 03:50.54 | Cide | I knew you were strange |
| 03:51.59 | Shirik | :< |
| 03:54.17 | Seerah | I think I'm ADD Shirik. Does that mean I might be hyperthyroid? ;) |
| 03:54.30 | Seerah | (yeah, I know - ADD and OCD all at once :P ) |
| 03:54.31 | Shirik | >< |
| 03:54.43 | Shirik | Hyperthyroidism is often misdiagnosed as ADD or clinical depression |
| 03:55.54 | Lunessa | My Hypoglycemia was almost diagnosed as depression. |
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| 04:00.25 | kd3 | huh. http://www.chrisyates.net/reprographics/comics/278theinterstatesystem.jpg |
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| 04:03.49 | Kaso | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/lntkaos/traffic.png |
| 04:04.03 | Kaso | I wonder what explains the sudden rise in traffic at 2am |
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| 04:04.57 | kd3 | what do the referer logs have to say? |
| 04:05.09 | Lunessa | kd3: Is the first one supposed to be funny? |
| 04:05.27 | kd3 | not afaik. just a neat look |
| 04:05.31 | Kaso | unfortuantly this isnt my server so i dont have proper access to stats |
| 04:06.10 | Kaso | its the university's squid caches, load ballenced across four caches, ive written a dirty script to track server load on them |
| 04:06.15 | Kaso | just out of curiousity |
| 04:09.02 | pastamancer | I need to rent a corpse on US/Durotan. Make a level 1 orc or troll and send me a whisper |
| 04:15.41 | WobWork | kd3: That looks like Ticket To Ride =) |
| 04:16.00 | kd3 | hm... wtb /gmotd history |
| 04:23.42 | Sixen | ./wave |
| 04:25.44 | Shirik | --> pingIn = function(t) if type(t) != 'number' or t >= 5 then error("Usage: pingIn(time) -- time must be less than 5 seconds"); else local time = os.clock()+t; while(os.clock()<time) do end; end print("pong") end |
| 04:25.45 | batbot | Shirik: @ [string " pingIn = function(t) if type(t) != 'number' or t >= 5 then err..."]:1: 'then' expected near '!' |
| 04:26.00 | Shirik | --> pingIn = function(t) if type(t) ~= 'number' or t >= 5 then error("Usage: pingIn(time) -- time must be less than 5 seconds"); else local time = os.clock()+t; while(os.clock()<time) do end; end print("pong") end |
| 04:26.05 | Shirik | -->pingIn(3) |
| 04:26.08 | batbot | Shirik: pong |
| 04:28.33 | Lunessa | Time to go. I'm off tomorrow, so see those of you who are online Saturday. :) |
| 04:28.33 | break19 | þÿhttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LVZVVzZdEtoI0zcxst <- good tank build? |
| 04:28.40 | Cairenn | have fun Lunessa |
| 04:29.00 | Lopeppeppy | *wave* |
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| 04:30.47 | Sixen | Hello, Lopepeppy. |
| 04:31.50 | Seerah | oookaaaay.... Time for the great UI purging of 2008! (clearing interface and wtf folders and starting from scratch! /cring |
| 04:31.54 | Seerah | * /cringe |
| 04:32.08 | EvilDeathCrab | Hi, I'm new to LUA and the WoW API, and I have a question about events. Is there any way I can track when a players crit chance is updated? I see there's one for attack speed, attack power, and a bunch of other combat stats |
| 04:32.46 | Seerah | EvilDeathCrab: have you taken a glance through wowwiki for it yet? |
| 04:33.03 | EvilDeathCrab | yeah, I'm not finding anything crit related regarding events |
| 04:33.14 | Kaso | I'd recomend looking at that wow interface code for the Charater screen |
| 04:33.27 | Kaso | thats where i'd be done in the default UI |
| 04:33.30 | EvilDeathCrab | oh right, we can look at that now, can't we |
| 04:33.46 | Kaso | we're always been able to look at default ui code. |
| 04:34.02 | Seerah | get the UI extractor if you haven't yet |
| 04:34.11 | kd3 | ~framexml |
| 04:34.12 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wdnaddons.com/ |
| 04:34.29 | Seerah | danke, kd3 :D |
| 04:36.07 | EvilDeathCrab | wow, these resources are cool :X |
| 04:36.43 | Shirik | EvilDeathCrab: Lua, not LUA |
| 04:36.50 | Seerah | And if you don't have a text editor yet for coding, I suggest Notepad++ |
| 04:36.57 | Seerah | ~Notepad++ |
| 04:36.59 | Shirik | Don't listen to Seerah, get SciTE |
| 04:37.07 | Shirik | :P |
| 04:37.09 | EvilDeathCrab | I have textpad |
| 04:37.09 | Cide | don't listen to Shirik, get TextPad |
| 04:37.10 | break19 | meh, forget the both of em, Get Smultron |
| 04:37.12 | EvilDeathCrab | haha |
| 04:37.14 | Seerah | Don't listen to Shirik, he's a little loopy |
| 04:37.15 | Cide | see? textpad is awesome. |
| 04:37.21 | break19 | Smultron!@&#^@%$@&#^%$ |
| 04:37.23 | Cide | I use komodo nowadays though |
| 04:37.25 | Cide | it's pro |
| 04:37.26 | Shirik | emacs? |
| 04:37.33 | Kaso | basically from a quick search through PaperDollFrame.lua you can work out the event you need, i wont spoil the solution for you. |
| 04:38.03 | sacarasc | what's something good for learning lua/wow lua for someone who grows bored of things quickly? |
| 04:38.35 | Iriel | think of a simple addon you want and write it |
| 04:38.40 | Iriel | repeat until skilled or bored |
| 04:38.50 | Cide | probably bored, if you grow bored of things quickly |
| 04:39.01 | Seerah | lol |
| 04:39.02 | Cide | it's not a very fast process unless you're a programmer from before |
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| 04:39.34 | Seerah | Or start tweaking other people's addons, or start out with custom layouts for agUF or oUF |
| 04:40.04 | Kaso | i think its better to learn on your own, others addons can be confusing, and also you can pick up bad habbits |
| 04:40.05 | Seerah | that way, you're not starting out from scratch, have other things to look at, and can change mods to something that you like |
| 04:40.15 | WobWork | hehe |
| 04:40.21 | Seerah | depends on the addon |
| 04:40.47 | WobWork | On the one hand, the well written ones are probably too esoteric for newbies |
| 04:41.04 | WobWork | because if they're really well written, they'll use every trick in the book to get the most out of Lua |
| 04:42.48 | Seerah | true |
| 04:42.54 | Cide | WobWork: not necessarily |
| 04:43.05 | Seerah | I've seen things that make my head spin |
| 04:43.13 | Cide | addons don't have to use advanced lua features like metatables to be well written |
| 04:43.15 | batrick | wow |
| 04:43.16 | batrick | naturally |
| 04:43.24 | batrick | when I run lua with gdb, i can't reproduce a segfault |
| 04:43.26 | batrick | naturally!!! |
| 04:43.36 | Cide | but in some cases that's true, of course |
| 04:43.58 | pastamancer | that makes me wonder what you could do with wow and dtrace on osx |
| 04:44.10 | Seerah | but, yes, Cide. There are well-written mods that are easy to understand. And descriptive comments are always a plus (with cookies to the author) |
| 04:44.41 | Cide | aye |
| 04:46.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | just uh |
| 04:46.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | don't try to learn lua from the thottbot addon |
| 04:47.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's a lost cause |
| 04:47.31 | Seerah | or KTM |
| 04:48.08 | Cairenn | or Carbonite |
| 04:48.28 | sacarasc | heh... so, find a good addon and go from there... |
| 04:48.33 | Seerah | stick to something small and simple :P |
| 04:49.42 | Shirik | batrick: Wait, let me guess |
| 04:49.45 | Shirik | GDB FAILED YOU AGAIN |
| 04:49.48 | Shirik | WHAT, IMPOSSIBLE?! |
| 04:50.01 | Shirik | If it were visual studio it would have picked it up, even if it didn't segfault |
| 04:50.14 | Shirik | <3 VS's memory debugger |
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| 04:50.39 | Shirik | It's all like "hey this was legal and all, but probably not desired, so stop it." |
| 04:50.55 | batrick | meh |
| 04:51.33 | batrick | sorta sucks |
| 04:51.35 | Shirik | Visual Studio has a lot of cool features -- like in debug mode, it adds an extra byte before and after every allocated block so it can go back and detect incorrect writes later |
| 04:51.45 | Shirik | it also watches arrays for when they go out of bounds |
| 04:52.00 | Shirik | it also detects if you forget to delete a variable |
| 04:52.00 | batrick | shirik... go debug it for me! |
| 04:52.12 | Shirik | I would and all, but someone decided to make it non-OS-independent |
| 04:52.14 | Shirik | so I have to fix the code first |
| 04:52.21 | batrick | ur own fault =) |
| 04:52.23 | Shirik | but I'm doing that now actually |
| 04:52.25 | Shirik | can I do it in C++? |
| 04:52.26 | EvilDeathCrab | hmm, wowwiki doesn't have any intense documentation for a particular event I need. Is there another resource where I can find more in depth information? |
| 04:52.28 | batrick | it shouldn't be too ahrd |
| 04:52.49 | Iriel | There are memory allocation debugging libraries you use WITH gdb |
| 04:52.55 | ScytheBlade1 | EvilDeathCrab: not that I know of. What event? |
| 04:53.04 | Shirik | Iriel, like valgrind? :) |
| 04:53.24 | Shirik | *cough*batrick*cough* |
| 04:53.28 | batrick | hey man |
| 04:53.33 | batrick | it owuldn't segfault in gdb |
| 04:53.35 | Shirik | valgrind is <3 |
| 04:53.38 | batrick | so what good is an extra library |
| 04:53.42 | Shirik | it picks up a lot of things gdb might miss |
| 04:53.47 | EvilDeathCrab | ScytheBlade1: combat_rating_update |
| 04:53.50 | batrick | how do you miss afucking segfault |
| 04:53.51 | Shirik | because gdb doesn't do sanity checking until the processor raises an exception |
| 04:54.03 | Shirik | if a pointer was incorrect but otherwise legal, the processor won't raise that GPF |
| 04:54.09 | ScytheBlade1 | EvilDeathCrab: the arena related event? |
| 04:54.09 | Shirik | but valgrind would pick it up |
| 04:54.14 | Iriel | If GDB is "missing a segfault" ou're using it wrong |
| 04:54.15 | batrick | shirik... |
| 04:54.22 | EvilDeathCrab | uh, I think it's a player event |
| 04:54.29 | EvilDeathCrab | it's used to update various stuff on the paper doll frame |
| 04:54.34 | batrick | Iriel: I'm running the same damn code outside and inside gdb |
| 04:54.40 | batrick | segfaults outside but not inside |
| 04:54.44 | batrick | on two different boxes |
| 04:54.48 | Shirik | obviously gdb hates you |
| 04:54.51 | Shirik | you should use visual studio |
| 04:55.00 | sacarasc | gdb hates everyone |
| 04:55.07 | Shirik | also wtb access to svn server outside of localhost... |
| 04:55.12 | sacarasc | not as much as valgrind hates me, though |
| 04:55.12 | batrick | ya you would have to pay me a lot to start windows |
| 04:55.26 | batrick | i thought you were gonna fix that shirik |
| 04:55.31 | Iriel | Is it possible that the program is sensitive to the slightly different environment it runs with under the debugger? |
| 04:55.33 | Shirik | I said I needed root to do it! |
| 04:55.47 | batrick | grr |
| 04:55.58 | batrick | what's wrong exactly ? |
| 04:56.02 | batrick | to shirik ^ |
| 04:56.04 | Iriel | also, can you attach GDB to the core that the non-GDB failure dumps? |
| 04:56.05 | ScytheBlade1 | EvilDeathCrab: do you know when that event is supposed to fire? |
| 04:56.08 | Shirik | I'm not quite sure; do you have any firewalls going on or anything? |
| 04:56.13 | Shirik | iptables might not be set right if you use that |
| 04:56.21 | EvilDeathCrab | no idea scythe :< |
| 04:56.29 | ScytheBlade1 | So then why are you looking at it? :) |
| 04:56.48 | EvilDeathCrab | trying to find a way to capture when crit chance gets updated |
| 04:57.08 | EvilDeathCrab | so Kaso leaves me with a tantalizing clue as to where it is, but won't give me any hints |
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| 04:57.21 | batrick | Shirik: give me a second i'lltry to figure it out |
| 04:57.32 | Kaso | oh, you want me to spoil it EvilDeathCrab ? |
| 04:57.47 | Shirik | shirik@waterdeep:~$ iptables --list |
| 04:57.47 | Shirik | WARNING: Error inserting x_tables (/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-server/kernel/net/netfilter/x_tables.ko): Operation not permitted |
| 04:57.47 | Shirik | FATAL: Error inserting ip_tables (/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-server/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.ko): Operation not permitted |
| 04:57.47 | Shirik | iptables v1.3.6: can't initialize iptables table `filter': Permission denied (you must be root) |
| 04:57.49 | Shirik | :< |
| 04:57.52 | EvilDeathCrab | I think I have a good theory, I whispered it to you but you didn't reply >.> |
| 04:57.54 | sacarasc | lol |
| 04:58.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel: is there any way to filter what /dteventtrace gives me? |
| 04:58.11 | Kaso | EvilDeathCrab, you need to be authed to whisper on freenode |
| 04:58.18 | Kaso | http://wdnaddons.com/2337799/FrameXML/PaperDollFrame.lua, like 153 |
| 04:58.22 | Iriel | Yes, hit the ? icon in the top left |
| 04:58.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Haha |
| 04:58.34 | ScytheBlade1 | ty |
| 04:58.39 | EvilDeathCrab | yeah, that was the one I thought Kaso |
| 04:58.50 | Iriel | Shift and Ctrl clicks do different things |
| 04:58.54 | batrick | Iriel: that sorta did and didn't make sense |
| 04:58.55 | EvilDeathCrab | wtf, I'm not authenticated |
| 04:58.57 | EvilDeathCrab | stupid trillian |
| 04:59.22 | Iriel | batrick: Unless you've disabled them, then when programs crash they dump core |
| 04:59.33 | ScytheBlade1 | EvilDeathCrab: looks like that event doesn't fire when your crit rating changes. |
| 04:59.35 | Iriel | batrick: You can run gdb with the executable and the core to find out where it died |
| 04:59.44 | batrick | well ya, sometimes it receives SIGABRT and dumps everything to the terminal |
| 04:59.45 | Shirik | yeah batrick |
| 04:59.51 | Shirik | ulimit -c 200000 |
| 04:59.51 | batrick | sometimes it gets segfault |
| 04:59.54 | batrick | it's pretty wierd |
| 04:59.56 | Shirik | get the segfault dump |
| 04:59.59 | Shirik | then load that into gdb |
| 05:00.14 | batrick | hmm |
| 05:00.36 | EvilDeathCrab | Scythe, where are you checking that? |
| 05:01.12 | ScytheBlade1 | EvilDeathCrab: in-game, with DevTools |
| 05:01.14 | ScytheBlade1 | ~devtools |
| 05:01.15 | purl | Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet? |
| 05:01.23 | EvilDeathCrab | aha |
| 05:01.47 | EvilDeathCrab | how convenient |
| 05:02.05 | ScytheBlade1 | I lied |
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| 05:02.20 | ScytheBlade1 | COMBAT_RATINGS_UPDATE does change |
| 05:02.55 | Shirik | batrick: All of this is irrelevant |
| 05:02.58 | EvilDeathCrab | you cut me deep, Scythe |
| 05:03.01 | Shirik | it's unfair that you have not yet given me access to SVN! |
| 05:03.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel: minor bug: if you're filtering the events you want to see, the scroll bar will stop scrolling when an event that isn't displayed coems up |
| 05:03.07 | ScytheBlade1 | EvilDeathCrab: ? |
| 05:03.13 | EvilDeathCrab | nothing, just joking :D |
| 05:03.17 | Shirik | you aren't allowed to be working on it until the SVN is accessible from my side |
| 05:03.23 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 05:03.32 | EvilDeathCrab | thanks for the info, I think this will do what I need |
| 05:03.37 | batrick | interesting |
| 05:03.44 | Shirik | NOT INTERESTING |
| 05:03.47 | Shirik | Fix iptables! |
| 05:03.48 | batrick | lol! |
| 05:03.54 | batrick | k fine |
| 05:04.04 | batrick | u just want to work ur visual studio voodoo |
| 05:04.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup. You watch for the event, and then call the API functions to get your crit rating. |
| 05:04.54 | Shirik | well I can't batrick |
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| 05:05.03 | Shirik | but I want to get started on os-independicizing it |
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| 05:05.09 | Shirik | new word |
| 05:05.10 | Shirik | yey |
| 05:07.01 | sacarasc | Fisker-: you're a rather violent person, why all the rage? |
| 05:07.09 | batrick | it's not even attempting to listen on a port |
| 05:07.29 | Iriel | ScytheBlade1: I dont believe there are any scrolling /bugs/, but it has some quirks (i.e. it's not perfect but it's not broken) |
| 05:07.59 | Iriel | ScytheBlade1: Common mistakes -- it stops autoscrolling when you have an event selected (hit ESC) -- also filtering only controls what it's SHOWING, it's still collecting. |
| 05:08.13 | batrick | oops |
| 05:08.18 | batrick | nvm it is |
| 05:08.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel: I might have fallen for the first common mistake :) |
| 05:08.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Sec as I double check |
| 05:08.35 | Iriel | ScytheBlade1: I'll be honest -- it still catches me from time to time |
| 05:09.10 | Fisker- | Because i just owned myself sacarasc |
| 05:09.20 | Fisker- | Was cleaning up our dkp site |
| 05:09.28 | Fisker- | "What no gzip compression enabled?" |
| 05:09.33 | Fisker- | *enables gzip* |
| 05:09.42 | Shirik | batrick: do iptables --list |
| 05:09.45 | Shirik | and see what it outputs |
| 05:09.47 | Fisker- | *greeted by "cannot display this page"* |
| 05:09.48 | Fisker- | lulz |
| 05:09.54 | sacarasc | heh |
| 05:10.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel: Yeah, okay. Got it. If I filter the events, works fine. Fire an event that I'm watching for, said event appears, I click on it. Autoscroll stops. However, once auto scroll stops, the scroll bar keeps moving upwards - even though I'm no longer generating the displayed events |
| 05:10.56 | Iriel | Yes, because the buffer's still collecting |
| 05:11.05 | Iriel | if you scroll to the bottom and hit ESC it'll go back to auto scrolling |
| 05:11.18 | batrick | I have no policies set shirik |
| 05:11.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, fair enough. At least I know now. :() |
| 05:11.24 | batrick | which is why something else is wrong :P |
| 05:11.25 | ScytheBlade1 | * :) |
| 05:11.34 | Iriel | Shirik: Is it bound to the local interface only? |
| 05:11.37 | Fisker- | :o |
| 05:11.42 | Fisker- | w3m says it's not in gzip format |
| 05:11.46 | Shirik | I've never had to do any "special configuration" to svnserve |
| 05:11.54 | Shirik | I just set it up to run during init and that's it |
| 05:12.02 | ScytheBlade1 | eww @ svnserve :( |
| 05:12.10 | Shirik | wtf you want me to use, apache? |
| 05:12.13 | Shirik | screw that |
| 05:12.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes? |
| 05:12.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Apache <3 |
| 05:12.26 | Fisker- | haha |
| 05:12.46 | Fisker- | i could fix it by making firefox not do gzip compression :o |
| 05:12.51 | Fisker- | Firefox = actually useful :OOOO |
| 05:13.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: SVN + apache = hard. http://wowi.pastey.net/83447 |
| 05:13.22 | Shirik | guess how much I had to do with svnserve? |
| 05:13.30 | Shirik | wait... wait... I need to put this in a pastey it's so long |
| 05:13.31 | Shirik | sec |
| 05:13.36 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 05:13.51 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/83448 |
| 05:14.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Called it |
| 05:17.26 | sacarasc | lol, gentoo |
| 05:18.58 | ScytheBlade1 | meh |
| 05:19.03 | batrick | restarting brb |
| 05:19.12 | art3mis | wow thats amazing |
| 05:19.25 | art3mis | george bush didnt openly endorse mccain |
| 05:19.49 | Shirik | connection lost |
| 05:19.57 | Shirik | server unexpectedly closed connection |
| 05:19.57 | art3mis | then made the comment "if i do endorse him and it helps and if i dont think he's the right man and dont endorse him i just qwant him to win" |
| 05:20.05 | Shirik | The system is going down for reboot NOW! |
| 05:20.08 | Shirik | yup |
| 05:20.10 | Shirik | definitely unexpected. |
| 05:20.38 | sacarasc | lol, gentoo admins |
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| 05:21.15 | Tem|AFK | Gentoo linux: Sometimes your life is just an example of what _not_ to do. |
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| 05:23.22 | art3mis | hah |
| 05:23.51 | art3mis | GenX was too pretentious let's try Gentoo and see if anyone assumes the pretention. |
| 05:25.08 | art3mis | www.xkcd.com |
| 05:26.28 | batrick | oh |
| 05:26.38 | sacarasc | heh! <3 Gygax |
| 05:26.41 | batrick | Shirik: my router isn't set to forward that port |
| 05:26.46 | batrick | and I don't have access to it atm |
| 05:26.54 | batrick | so you'll have to do some copy pasting =) |
| 05:28.36 | Shirik | fail |
| 05:28.38 | Shirik | miserably |
| 05:32.01 | batrick | neg |
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| 05:35.55 | NightHawkTheSane | does romulo's poison vial proc work on druid attacks? |
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| 05:54.54 | Wobin | oh man |
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| 05:54.58 | Wobin | <3 XKCD |
| 05:55.04 | Wobin | so much <3 |
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| 05:55.32 | Wobin | http://xkcd.com/393/ |
| 05:56.25 | sacarasc | more like <3 Gygax |
| 05:56.55 | Cairenn | yup :) |
| 05:57.05 | Cairenn | glad to see them giving him props too |
| 05:57.15 | Wobin | It's the best webcomic tribute I've seen so far |
| 05:57.36 | sacarasc | did you see the end of yesterdays "The Colbert Report"? that was a pretty good one (though obvious) |
| 05:58.00 | Wobin | although the: "Gygax, we will miss you (critically)" was good =) |
| 05:58.13 | Wobin | was it a 'rolling in his grave' comment? |
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| 05:58.51 | sacarasc | "We will miss you" *rolls dice* "20" |
| 05:59.09 | AlexanderYoshi | http://logan-1.mirror.waffleimages.com/files/0f/0f770bc1a15c20b5cc419d8cde00da9961bf51c7.jpg |
| 05:59.34 | Cairenn | there were more D&D jokes over the last couple days ... and you know, none of them seemed inappropriate - expected, perhaps, trite even - but not inappropriate - somehow, I think he would have laughed at them |
| 06:00.05 | Shirik | gdit batrick |
| 06:00.10 | Shirik | That exe is invalid |
| 06:00.14 | Shirik | wtb better programs |
| 06:00.41 | sacarasc | "Gary, you'll be missed. How much will you be missed?" *rolls 1d20* "Twenty. May your Prismatic Spray always bypass your targets reflex saving throw." |
| 06:01.49 | Wobin | Cairenn: I agree |
| 06:02.13 | Wobin | After Steve Irwin died, the comments were much more... derogatory, despite the similiar subject matter |
| 06:02.48 | art3mis | no-one online can say bad things about his legacy |
| 06:02.58 | Wobin | yeah, and that's where most of the insults would come from |
| 06:03.01 | art3mis | we live in the worlds he helped create ;P |
| 06:03.16 | Cairenn | yup |
| 06:03.25 | art3mis | few of us knew him but we'll all miss him. |
| 06:03.48 | sacarasc | I'm dedicating every roll on Saturday to him... (though with my luck there will be many 1s) |
| 06:04.36 | sacarasc | back when elf was a class? |
| 06:04.40 | art3mis | steve irwin, while he was a great person was too cartoonish to hold the proper respect |
| 06:04.54 | art3mis | original AD&D ;P |
| 06:05.05 | art3mis | ive got my immortals boxset kicking around though |
| 06:06.40 | art3mis | every major wow city should have a gygax statue |
| 06:07.37 | sacarasc | heh, interesting idea |
| 06:10.43 | Wobin | http://www.flickr.com/photos/akc77/414546419/sizes/l/ |
| 06:10.52 | Wobin | I quite like some HDR images |
| 06:18.50 | art3mis | http://www.flickr.com/photos/akc77/413449377/sizes/l/in/photostream/ |
| 06:18.54 | art3mis | thats pretty rad |
| 06:19.12 | Wobin | aha |
| 06:19.18 | Wobin | I -thought- those trees looked familiar =) |
| 06:19.48 | Wobin | Taken in Como |
| 06:20.12 | art3mis | wierdo |
| 06:20.23 | Wobin | pft |
| 06:20.25 | sacarasc | those trees are fake, plastic ones |
| 06:20.31 | sacarasc | i have (faked) proof! |
| 06:20.34 | Wobin | You clearly don't go out enough to see native trees =P |
| 06:21.00 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:21.04 | sacarasc | i live in a forest with only trees as my friends! |
| 06:21.04 | art3mis | i live in brooklyn |
| 06:21.12 | art3mis | i hear a tree grew here somewhere once |
| 06:21.21 | Wobin | Years ago, no doubt |
| 06:21.40 | art3mis | sacarasc: yer a bark munching rock worshipping druid arentcha |
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| 06:22.19 | sacarasc | nope... just plain hippy |
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| 06:27.04 | art3mis | hey wobin |
| 06:27.09 | Wobin | yo |
| 06:27.14 | art3mis | does vegamite ever go "bad" |
| 06:27.18 | Wobin | nope |
| 06:27.21 | Wobin | ^^ |
| 06:27.22 | Duman | heh |
| 06:27.30 | Duman | doesn't it start out bad? |
| 06:27.31 | Duman | ;-) |
| 06:27.31 | Wobin | I've never seen it do so |
| 06:27.40 | art3mis | like if i went and had a toast butter vegimite snack with a container i opened 2 years ago |
| 06:27.40 | Wobin | but it has so much salt in it, I doubt it could |
| 06:27.57 | art3mis | Duman: that was the reason for the quotes ;P |
| 06:28.56 | art3mis | http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/2917/964/1600/superman_pederast_action_comics_457.jpg |
| 06:29.12 | sacarasc | vegemite is bad fake marmite, marmite forever! |
| 06:29.41 | art3mis | marmite? |
| 06:29.51 | art3mis | made with real marrmots? |
| 06:30.05 | art3mis | (sp) |
| 06:30.26 | sacarasc | Marmite is made from yeast extract, a by-product of beer brewing, and is suitable for vegetarians and vegans. |
| 06:30.50 | Wobin | hm interesting article: http://www.urbantelegraph.com.au/the-vegemite-effect-or-why-would-you-bother-with-australian-culture/ |
| 06:31.04 | Wobin | marmite is a vegemite lacking ... oomph |
| 06:31.41 | sacarasc | pfft, marmite > vegemite |
| 06:32.48 | art3mis | One day I heard an announcement that there'd be a delay due to track work, only I misheard it through the crappy speaker as "due to Kraftwerk" and I'm like, yeah, I guess if they were playing again I'd stop a train to go to see 'em. |
| 06:32.50 | Wobin | next thing you'll be saying is pengiun mints > mint slices |
| 06:33.12 | art3mis | http://alienlovespredator.com/index.php?id=1 |
| 06:33.14 | Wobin | art3mis: welcome to CityRail? |
| 06:33.26 | art3mis | mta ;P |
| 06:33.42 | Wobin | where are you atm? |
| 06:34.09 | sacarasc | i want me some marmite now... i have none in ;\ |
| 06:34.35 | art3mis | me? |
| 06:34.37 | art3mis | nyc |
| 06:34.41 | art3mis | well brooklyn |
| 06:35.03 | art3mis | sacarasc: whats vegimite made from? |
| 06:35.22 | art3mis | so marmite is the sludge left over from a keg of beer? |
| 06:35.49 | sacarasc | no, it's from the beer making process, before it goes anywhere near kegs |
| 06:36.23 | sacarasc | but it's made similarly |
| 06:38.36 | Wobin | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegemite |
| 06:40.07 | art3mis | so craig fergusons funny joke tonight.. |
| 06:40.32 | art3mis | he was talking about heidi klume and how shes married to Seal... they met while she was out clubbing. |
| 06:40.39 | Wobin | ~rimshot |
| 06:40.40 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
| 06:41.57 | sacarasc | Wobin: it just wasn't funny... no seal clubbing jokes have been for many years to me |
| 06:42.13 | art3mis | so this baby seal walks into a club? |
| 06:42.22 | sacarasc | exactly |
| 06:42.30 | Wobin | "A baby harp seal walks into a bar. "What'll it be, baby harp seal?" asked the bartender. "Anything but a Canadian Club on the rocks." he replies..." |
| 06:42.41 | art3mis | ~rimshot |
| 06:42.41 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
| 06:45.08 | art3mis | So there's these 2 muffins in an oven. |
| 06:45.08 | art3mis | They're both sitting, just chilling and getting baked. |
| 06:45.08 | art3mis | And one of them yells "God Damn, it's hot in here!" |
| 06:45.10 | art3mis | And the other muffin replies "Holy Crap, a talking muffin!" |
| 06:45.41 | xlvii | ~rimshot |
| 06:45.42 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
| 06:45.50 | Shirik | Okay art3mis |
| 06:45.59 | Shirik | out of respect for the channel, I am going to have to ask you to never speak again |
| 06:46.00 | Shirik | ever |
| 06:46.05 | Shirik | and in the next 10 of your lives |
| 06:46.41 | sacarasc | go Shirik |
| 06:47.27 | xlvii | !kb art3mis for his lame jokes. |
| 06:47.32 | Wobin | Two goldfish were in a tank. |
| 06:48.12 | Wobin | The first one goes: "GASP! OMG I CAN'T BREATHE!" |
| 06:48.12 | Wobin | The second goes: "How the fuck do we drive this thing?" |
| 06:48.15 | sacarasc | ... |
| 06:48.34 | art3mis | so this duck walks into a pharmacy and walks to the back and asks the pharmacist "got any grapes?" |
| 06:48.53 | art3mis | the pharmacist confused looks at the duck and says "no". the duck turns around and leaves |
| 06:49.12 | art3mis | the next day the same duck walks in and goes to the back and asks again "got any grapes" |
| 06:49.23 | art3mis | the pharmacist still confused looks at the duck and says "no". the duck turns around and leaves |
| 06:49.31 | art3mis | the next day the same duck walks in and goes to the back and asks again "got any grapes?" |
| 06:49.44 | Wobin | thank god for irc history, eh? |
| 06:49.55 | art3mis | the pharmacist says "no we have no grapes!" and the duck turns around and leaves |
| 06:50.15 | art3mis | a fwe days go by with thsi same occurance happening |
| 06:50.48 | art3mis | finally one day before the duck can ask the pharmacist screams LOOK WE HAVE NO GRAPES AND IF YOU ASK AGAIN IM GONNA NAIL YOUR FEET TO THE FLOOR! |
| 06:51.24 | art3mis | the duck ponders for a minute and says "got any nails?" the pharmacist taken aback say "no we dont", "got any grapes?" asks the duck |
| 06:51.45 | sacarasc | bad |
| 06:51.54 | art3mis | yup |
| 06:52.00 | art3mis | it can go on a lot longer too |
| 06:52.40 | art3mis | rectum!? damn near killed 'im! |
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| 06:57.48 | batrick | Shirik: of course it's invalid it's compiled for linux you dunce |
| 06:57.55 | Shirik | ............................... |
| 06:58.00 | Shirik | if it were linux I could have done it with scp |
| 06:58.16 | batrick | o |
| 06:58.23 | batrick | you're talking about that ssh clinet |
| 06:58.31 | batrick | one sec |
| 07:02.31 | Shirik | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/3cd677c786fa715b8ee703cfc10858ea.jpg |
| 07:05.11 | Nom- | yo hai all |
| 07:05.23 | Shirik | omnomnom |
| 07:05.35 | Nom- | Any ideas if the 8800 GTS is still teh shit in vid cards, or should i hang out for some other new card in that price bracket? :) |
| 07:05.59 | batrick | 9000s are coming out soon i think |
| 07:06.38 | Nom- | lol that's funny Shirik |
| 07:06.46 | Shirik | I'm debating whether or not to send it |
| 07:06.56 | Nom- | Do it :D |
| 07:07.00 | Nom- | Some CSR will get a huge laugh out of it |
| 07:07.03 | batrick | wow is evil |
| 07:07.05 | Nom- | And then say no, sorry can't be done |
| 07:08.02 | batrick | new xkcd is so win |
| 07:08.13 | Nom- | VC XFX 8600GTS xXx 730M PCIe/256MB/DUAL-DVI # |
| 07:08.15 | Nom- | $249.00 |
| 07:09.56 | art3mis | A 780G-Athlon 4850e combination will fall into the $180 to $220 price range, according to AMD. Setups featuring the entry-level 780V chipset will cost even less. |
| 07:09.57 | Cairenn | Shirik: ROFL @ CS report |
| 07:10.01 | art3mis | thats so awesome |
| 07:10.32 | art3mis | (ATI Radeon HD 3200) <-- 780g |
| 07:11.00 | art3mis | and the 4850 is the first of the 45nm dual cores for amd |
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| 07:12.36 | batrick | Fucking morons on wikipedia trying to use big words: "Coincidently Blizzard Entertainment decided to dedicate World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade Patch 2.40 to him." |
| 07:12.42 | batrick | there is no fucking coincidence |
| 07:12.52 | Wobin | "Surprise!" |
| 07:13.09 | Wobin | Maybe if they did the dedication before he actually died |
| 07:13.23 | Wobin | which would be 1) spooky and 2) prophetic |
| 07:13.41 | sacarasc | OMG! BLIZZARD MURDERED GARY GYGAX! |
| 07:14.11 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 07:15.09 | art3mis | it better not suck then |
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| 07:15.22 | art3mis | as a bonus all elves will be removed from the game and replaced with rangers |
| 07:15.47 | sacarasc | most of them already are... damn hunters |
| 07:16.03 | art3mis | including bloodelves ;P |
| 07:16.10 | art3mis | all warriors will become dwarves |
| 07:16.10 | sacarasc | half of them seem to be too |
| 07:16.21 | art3mis | really? |
| 07:16.27 | art3mis | usually they're paladins ;P |
| 07:19.33 | Cairenn | batrick: link to that article? |
| 07:19.57 | batrick | !g Gary Gygax wiki |
| 07:19.58 | batbot | batrick: Gary Gygax - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Gygax> |
| 07:20.05 | Cairenn | danke |
| 07:20.10 | batrick | yw |
| 07:21.12 | art3mis | Gary Gygax was commemorated in webcomics series xkcd's comic #393 "Ultimate Game". |
| 07:21.16 | art3mis | last line of honours |
| 07:21.17 | art3mis | heh |
| 07:22.30 | art3mis | temple of elemental evil was by far my most favoritest module |
| 07:22.44 | Cairenn | I like the other thing Blizz is doing: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15187 |
| 07:22.54 | Cairenn | Art of Blizzard Benefit Show for Child's Play |
| 07:23.19 | Cide | >>> 20+15+10+10+0.01+20 |
| 07:23.19 | Cide | Cide: 75.01 |
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| 07:32.53 | Shirik | wtf is this batrick |
| 07:32.53 | Shirik | #include <lauxlib.h> |
| 07:33.00 | Shirik | as if lauxlib is a standard library? |
| 07:34.42 | Cide | it's auxlib for losers |
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| 07:36.51 | Shirik | time to start |
| 07:36.55 | Shirik | error #1... kernel.c(7) : fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'pthread.h': No such file or directory |
| 07:37.02 | batrick | Shirik: I didn't want to clutter my home directory |
| 07:37.05 | batrick | err |
| 07:37.09 | batrick | my code directory |
| 07:37.19 | batrick | so I put all the header files in /usr/include roffles |
| 07:37.52 | batrick | I suppose I can fix that |
| 07:37.56 | batrick | Shirik: don't mess with it! |
| 07:38.06 | batrick | don't mess with the lua header files that is |
| 07:38.10 | Shirik | I changed it to #include "cthread.h" |
| 07:38.13 | Shirik | and making a cthread.h |
| 07:39.21 | Shirik | are you compiling this as C btw? |
| 07:39.27 | Shirik | I think we should make it clean C, like Lua |
| 07:39.32 | Shirik | so I can compile it as C++ so we can check both sides |
| 07:42.36 | batrick | k updated |
| 07:42.50 | batrick | it's clean C... |
| 07:43.00 | Shirik | yeah just saying |
| 07:43.09 | Shirik | just in case somewhere down the line you do something like some implicit cast of a void* |
| 07:43.57 | batrick | I do explicit casts even where stupidly unnecessary |
| 07:44.08 | batrick | if for no better reason than to remind myself later what it becomes |
| 07:44.50 | batrick | I did a really dirty trick to get rid of an annoying warning |
| 07:45.15 | batrick | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:45.17 | batrick | =) |
| 07:45.59 | Shirik | how the hell does that work |
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| 07:46.05 | Shirik | you can't cast a string to a long... |
| 07:46.10 | batrick | gets rid of the const problem |
| 07:46.21 | batrick | lua_tolstring returns a char *... |
| 07:46.26 | batrick | const char * |
| 07:46.26 | Shirik | yes |
| 07:46.40 | batrick | I cast the pointer to a long and then to a void *... |
| 07:47.10 | Shirik | where is this? |
| 07:47.14 | batrick | kernel.c |
| 07:47.23 | batrick | we really have no choice |
| 07:48.16 | Shirik | that shouldn't be legal... |
| 07:49.26 | batrick | I get no complaints from gcc =P |
| 07:50.29 | batrick | if you visual studio bitches we can just add an extra step to it and it should silence any comiler |
| 07:50.32 | batrick | compiler* |
| 07:50.49 | Shirik | yeah, it's not complaining |
| 07:50.51 | Shirik | but it should be |
| 07:50.57 | Shirik | that's not valid C++ as far as I am aware |
| 07:52.03 | Shirik | this is so odd |
| 07:52.13 | Shirik | it complains about long to void* but not const char* to long |
| 07:52.28 | Shirik | kernel.c(196) : error C2440: '=' : cannot convert from 'long' to 'void *' |
| 07:52.39 | Shirik | (if I take out the explicit void* cast) |
| 07:53.24 | batrick | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:53.41 | batrick | do windows threads offer asynchronous cancellation? |
| 07:53.55 | Shirik | windows threads offer pretty much everything you could ever possibly want |
| 07:54.09 | batrick | how about a new operating system? |
| 07:54.25 | Shirik | unfortunately it still follows the "create a structure, fill out 30 elements in it, 20 of those elements are 'reserved and unused and should be zero'" |
| 07:54.59 | Shirik | The guys at ##c++ are telling me a constant pointer to long is valid in C++ |
| 07:55.01 | batrick | anyway, I'm using my own structure to represent threads |
| 07:55.01 | Shirik | so let's roll with it |
| 07:55.05 | batrick | it makes comparisons stupid easy |
| 07:55.25 | Shirik | btw |
| 07:55.28 | Shirik | removing const = evil |
| 07:55.31 | Shirik | why did you do that again? |
| 07:55.38 | batrick | half of luatasks problems stemmed from his obsession with using natural numbers to represent threads |
| 07:55.43 | batrick | consecutive natural numbers* |
| 07:56.09 | batrick | we have to in order to use lua_pushlightuserdata() |
| 07:56.16 | batrick | we need it pretty much for everything |
| 07:56.24 | Shirik | ah right |
| 07:56.25 | batrick | we don't need to worry about any problems with it anyway |
| 07:56.32 | Shirik | C++'s way would have been const_cast<>() :P |
| 07:56.33 | Shirik | so much nicer |
| 07:56.35 | batrick | we won't be changing any of the data |
| 07:56.36 | Shirik | but oh well |
| 07:56.41 | Shirik | yeah we just have to remember |
| 07:56.57 | Cide | get a room, guys |
| 07:57.10 | Cide | sorry, I had to |
| 07:58.34 | batrick | not like anyone else is talking about stuff |
| 07:58.57 | Shirik | do you have any problem with me using the comma operator? |
| 07:59.06 | Shirik | I have a really ugly hack I just thought might be useful |
| 07:59.18 | batrick | whoa what? |
| 07:59.21 | batrick | comma operator? |
| 08:00.03 | Shirik | it's a fun operator |
| 08:00.15 | Shirik | http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/zs06xbxh(VS.80).aspx |
| 08:00.24 | Shirik | This is the first time I've ever used it for something real though |
| 08:00.28 | Shirik | but it will help with one of the preprocessor defines |
| 08:01.21 | batrick | I would definitely prefer you didn't :P |
| 08:01.33 | Shirik | then your threading stuff is going to get a lot more ugly |
| 08:01.40 | Shirik | you can't have that static global define like that |
| 08:01.41 | batrick | what do you want to do |
| 08:02.04 | Shirik | I want to make it so you can just got KLUA_MUTEX var = KLUA_INIT_MUTEX() |
| 08:02.06 | Shirik | ; |
| 08:02.18 | Shirik | but the definition of KLUA_INIT_MUTEX is difficult |
| 08:02.21 | Shirik | for Windows |
| 08:02.36 | Shirik | it requires several calls |
| 08:03.42 | batrick | from the way I see it |
| 08:03.52 | batrick | you need to move the initialization elsewhere |
| 08:04.00 | batrick | but keep the variable where it is |
| 08:04.00 | Shirik | that is the alternate option |
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| 08:04.27 | Shirik | the question then becomes "where" |
| 08:04.39 | Shirik | we would have to make an "initialize" call for filumlunaris |
| 08:04.40 | batrick | would it be easier if we kept these global mutexes in the lua_Thread structure? |
| 08:04.50 | batrick | there already is an initialize call |
| 08:04.53 | batrick | a couple actually |
| 08:05.08 | batrick | there is one for the kernel state, and one for the library itself |
| 08:05.14 | Shirik | oh I missed that then |
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| 08:05.28 | batrick | would it be easier if we kept these global mutexes in the lua_Thread structure? <=== ???? |
| 08:05.54 | batrick | they'd all share the same reference but accessing would be more dynamic |
| 08:06.07 | batrick | err, you'd have more room to work with in Windows I guess is wha tI'm saying |
| 08:06.29 | Shirik | structures don't have constructors so it's kinda a moot point |
| 08:06.34 | Shirik | if we had CLASSES |
| 08:06.37 | Shirik | then I would be all for it |
| 08:06.38 | Shirik | but noooooo |
| 08:06.41 | Shirik | we have to use ugly C |
| 08:06.47 | batrick | WOWOWOWOW |
| 08:06.52 | batrick | C is fucking beautiful |
| 08:06.57 | Shirik | rofl |
| 08:07.00 | Shirik | C++ is beautifuler |
| 08:07.05 | batrick | bullshit. |
| 08:07.17 | batrick | and structures do have constructors you ass! |
| 08:07.35 | batrick | don't bad mouth C |
| 08:07.49 | Shirik | they do? |
| 08:08.12 | batrick | t = {{1, "hi"}, {2, "bye"}} |
| 08:08.17 | batrick | err |
| 08:08.19 | Shirik | uh |
| 08:08.24 | Shirik | that looks like Lua :P |
| 08:08.24 | batrick | some_struct t = ... |
| 08:08.29 | batrick | it's C |
| 08:08.46 | nevcairiel | thats not really what i would call a constructor .. its just a inital value =P |
| 08:08.55 | Shirik | yeah that's the thing |
| 08:08.56 | Shirik | it needs to be constant |
| 08:08.59 | batrick | you can construct it dynamically |
| 08:09.02 | Shirik | Windows calls aren't constant |
| 08:09.34 | batrick | anyway |
| 08:09.43 | batrick | What do you need to represent a mutex in windows shirik |
| 08:09.55 | Shirik | a HANDLE |
| 08:09.58 | Shirik | which is a DWORD |
| 08:10.00 | Shirik | which is an unsigned long |
| 08:10.22 | Shirik | but I need to make several calls to do that |
| 08:10.47 | batrick | that's fine |
| 08:12.01 | batrick | Shirik: i'm going to move the malloc for memory in filum.c to lthread.c |
| 08:12.06 | batrick | i don't like why i did that |
| 08:12.07 | Shirik | does the type "bool" exist in C? Or is it just TRUE and FALSE instead of keywords? |
| 08:12.16 | nevcairiel | no bool |
| 08:12.21 | batrick | bool is defined in stdbool.h |
| 08:12.33 | nevcairiel | yeah as a enum type =P |
| 08:12.42 | Shirik | oh wait, this is Windows-specific |
| 08:12.46 | Shirik | I can use the Windows-defined booelan type |
| 08:16.41 | Shirik | I love Windows' mutex functions |
| 08:16.43 | Shirik | they all have great names |
| 08:16.49 | Shirik | WaitForSingleObjectEx |
| 08:16.52 | Shirik | SwitchToThread |
| 08:17.00 | Shirik | Here's one that makes sense: ReleaseMutex |
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| 08:36.41 | Shirik | (03:35:44) (batrick) oops |
| 08:36.41 | Shirik | (03:35:53) (batrick) ya well throw a return 1; at the end |
| 08:36.41 | Shirik | (03:36:01) (Shirik) that's what I figured |
| 08:36.41 | Shirik | (03:36:05) (batrick) how the fuck did gcc not complain about that |
| 08:36.41 | Shirik | (03:36:12) (Shirik) see why I love visual studio now? :D |
| 08:37.35 | nevcairiel | despite the cases where MS tries to re-invent ANSI C |
| 08:37.43 | Shirik | hey |
| 08:37.45 | Shirik | MS was right this time! |
| 08:37.57 | Shirik | batrick's all like "meh, I don't need to return a value from this function" |
| 08:37.59 | nevcairiel | "this time" |
| 08:38.19 | batrick | 01:36:54 >> [batrick] i think gcc has a policy of no point in complaining if there is no point :P |
| 08:38.27 | Shirik | there was a point! |
| 08:38.30 | nevcairiel | -Wall -Wextra should pick it up |
| 08:38.31 | nevcairiel | imho |
| 08:38.34 | Shirik | How can the stack unwind correctly if no return value was pushed? |
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| 08:38.56 | batrick | because the value was put in %eax |
| 08:39.00 | batrick | it wasn't pushed. |
| 08:39.07 | batrick | in all cases I discard it |
| 08:39.14 | batrick | therefore gcc says nothign |
| 08:39.58 | Shirik | ok I'll take that argument |
| 08:43.26 | batrick | are you going to report that bug |
| 08:43.33 | Shirik | I already did |
| 08:43.37 | batrick | o |
| 08:43.45 | Shirik | I did it to team@lua.org though instead of the mailing list |
| 08:43.55 | batrick | why? |
| 08:43.59 | Shirik | not really sure |
| 08:44.04 | Shirik | it was the first one in my address book and you didn't respond |
| 08:44.15 | batrick | respond to what |
| 08:44.24 | batrick | nvm |
| 08:44.27 | Shirik | :P |
| 08:45.06 | batrick | actually the effect may be no different |
| 08:45.09 | batrick | hmm |
| 08:45.47 | Shirik | A "3" would act as a -3 instead of a 3 |
| 08:45.54 | Shirik | that can be desired but usually won't be |
| 08:46.50 | batrick | it seems gcc converts it to an int when you perform unaryminus on an unsigned |
| 08:46.53 | batrick | err wait |
| 08:47.02 | Shirik | pardon me that I don't know pthreads |
| 08:47.03 | Shirik | but what's this? |
| 08:47.06 | batrick | no you see it won't make any difference |
| 08:47.11 | batrick | because it still calls settop |
| 08:47.16 | Shirik | pthread_setcanceltype(PTHREAD_CANCEL_ASYNCHRONOUS, NULL); |
| 08:47.16 | Shirik | pthread_setcancelstate(PTHREAD_CANCEL_ENABLE, NULL); |
| 08:47.40 | batrick | it's sets the thread's state so it can be asynchronously cancelled |
| 08:47.46 | Shirik | so it can be |
| 08:47.48 | batrick | and by default threads don't cancel |
| 08:47.52 | batrick | so i have to enable it |
| 08:47.52 | Shirik | so that's not how it's cancelled |
| 08:47.57 | batrick | no |
| 08:47.57 | Shirik | but that's enabling it to be able to be |
| 08:48.07 | batrick | it just makes it so I _can_ cancel it |
| 08:48.11 | Shirik | k |
| 08:53.10 | batrick | hahahhaa |
| 08:53.12 | batrick | i found it |
| 08:53.13 | batrick | omg |
| 08:53.17 | Industrial | Anyone here use Eclipse? I can't get it to use one (non default) font for all code.. When I set the default text font to something else I get mixed code. |
| 08:53.23 | batrick | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:53.23 | batrick | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:53.23 | batrick | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:53.34 | Shirik | oh that was brilliant right there |
| 08:53.35 | batrick | that should have been so obvious :( |
| 08:54.13 | batrick | SON OF A BITCH |
| 08:54.15 | batrick | it still segfaults |
| 08:54.25 | Shirik | lawl |
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| 08:58.40 | Wobin | any germans able to help me with the pronunciation of a word? |
| 08:58.59 | nevcairiel | i dunno |
| 08:59.08 | nevcairiel | i can try tho =P |
| 08:59.46 | Wobin | Beethoven's 9th. "Freude schone Gotter... yada yada yada... Tochter aus Elysium" |
| 08:59.55 | Wobin | Now, Elysium... how is that pronounced? =) |
| 09:00.24 | Wobin | Ell-lee-see-um or Ell-lye-see-um? |
| 09:00.33 | foxlit | t = {5} |
| 09:00.42 | foxlit | t[1], t[#t] = t[#t], 1; |
| 09:00.45 | foxlit | er |
| 09:00.51 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 09:00.51 | foxlit | t[1], t[#t] = t[#t], nil; |
| 09:00.59 | nevcairiel | how do you say ly =P |
| 09:01.18 | Wobin | hehe |
| 09:01.18 | Wobin | hm |
| 09:01.31 | Wobin | to tell a lie, or to lie down |
| 09:01.34 | nevcairiel | i know how i would say it, but i cant think of a english way to write it |
| 09:01.45 | Wobin | or Lee |
| 09:02.43 | nevcairiel | more like Li but with a different i |
| 09:02.52 | nevcairiel | Eh-Li-See-Um |
| 09:03.09 | Wobin | thankee =P |
| 09:03.16 | Wobin | I was hearing a rendition on a TV ad |
| 09:03.19 | Wobin | and it was driving me batty |
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| 09:23.06 | batrick | #0 0xb7cf224e in __deallocate_stack () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libpthread.so.0 |
| 09:23.14 | batrick | I get the feeling that's out of the realm of my responsibility |
| 09:23.33 | Shirik | it's ok |
| 09:23.39 | Shirik | when I get this to run, visual studio will find it quickly |
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| 12:27.17 | frop | hello |
| 12:27.17 | frop | anyone know something similar to PerfomanceFU? |
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| 12:48.51 | widgertick | Hello |pez|. |
| 12:49.18 | widgertick | Let's dispense with the pleasantries. |
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| 12:56.13 | |pez| | hello! |
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| 13:12.20 | widgertick | I have terrible news for everyone in the channel. |
| 13:12.34 | widgertick | Tem and Lopeppeppy are dead to you. |
| 13:12.40 | widgertick | I have killed them in another place. |
| 13:12.50 | widgertick | They may not resurface for a number of seconds. |
| 13:12.54 | clad|office | oh noes" |
| 13:12.54 | widgertick | MINUTES EVEN MAY PASS |
| 13:13.06 | Maldivia | you call that bad news? |
| 13:13.29 | clad|office | it is rather presumptious that it would be terrible news for everyone in the channel |
| 13:13.36 | clad|office | surely teh reactions will be varied |
| 13:13.53 | widgertick | teh reactions are unpredictable like that. |
| 13:13.55 | Fisker- | You've opened a new tab |
| 13:14.05 | clad|office | BUT YOU PRESUME |
| 13:14.13 | Fisker- | I DO NOT PRESUME |
| 13:14.17 | Fisker- | YOU HAVE OPENED A NEW TAB |
| 13:14.22 | clad|office | LIES |
| 13:14.28 | Fisker- | oh ok :( |
| 13:14.33 | widgertick | NO |
| 13:14.37 | widgertick | DON'T FALL FOR IT |
| 13:14.51 | widgertick | YOU WERE FALLING FOR MY PLAN DON'T FALL FOR HIS ;_; |
| 13:14.57 | clad|office | kk |
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| 13:21.58 | Maldivia | hmm... anyone with a lvl 20+ mage, who can test something for me? |
| 13:22.40 | widgertick | What can I do ya for? |
| 13:23.54 | Maldivia | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:24.06 | Maldivia | as a macro |
| 13:25.07 | widgertick | Wow, my pants are hideous. |
| 13:25.13 | Maldivia | heh |
| 13:25.15 | widgertick | I hate you, Burning Crusade Texture Artist #4 |
| 13:25.37 | clad|office | how do you know it was number 4 hrm? |
| 13:25.41 | clad|office | i hear number 3 cackling |
| 13:26.55 | Kalroth | #3 was the one that copied the T4/5/6 raid armors (which #2 made) and sold it to management as S1/2/3 armor! |
| 13:27.11 | Maldivia | smart guy, that #3 |
| 13:27.23 | widgertick | Maldivia, it casts Blizzard where I am =O |
| 13:27.32 | Kaso | oh wow |
| 13:27.43 | Kaso | (blizzard thing) |
| 13:28.03 | widgertick | That's so amazing |
| 13:28.13 | widgertick | I love World of Warcraft =) |
| 13:28.29 | Maldivia | widgertick: try with 30, 30 or something, to see if it still centeres around you? |
| 13:28.58 | widgertick | LOL |
| 13:28.59 | widgertick | Out of range |
| 13:29.07 | Maldivia | ok, 20, 20 then :) |
| 13:29.08 | widgertick | Holy shit |
| 13:30.12 | Maldivia | now since pingLocation isn't restricted in anyway, it can be used to programically select area for us |
| 13:30.52 | clad|office | wow |
| 13:30.53 | clad|office | neat! |
| 13:31.00 | widgertick | Nah |
| 13:31.12 | widgertick | Ping location is world yards |
| 13:31.25 | clad|office | ITS STILL NEAT |
| 13:31.28 | clad|office | DONT TELL ME ITS NOT NEAT |
| 13:31.31 | Kaso | This'll be nurfed within a couple patches |
| 13:31.37 | widgertick | It's neat =) |
| 13:32.03 | widgertick | Anyways, the result is, 10, 0 is the furthest effectively |
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| 13:34.12 | widgertick | That's pretty cool Maldivia ^_^ |
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| 13:36.53 | Maldivia | can see it as useful for priests in raids, with mass dispell or circle heal |
| 13:36.56 | Josh_Borke | but it's not directed, is it? |
| 13:37.09 | clad|office | hrm |
| 13:37.21 | clad|office | you can't run yum without root, can you =/ |
| 13:37.50 | Josh_Borke | you can, but it won't work well |
| 13:37.57 | Josh_Borke | you can change yoru installroot |
| 13:38.01 | clad|office | i did |
| 13:38.04 | clad|office | it still wont' let me run it |
| 13:38.13 | widgertick | It's directable if that's what you're asking, Josh_Borke |
| 13:38.24 | Josh_Borke | widgertick: nifty then |
| 13:39.20 | widgertick | If the z loc of the x y coordinates ends up being w/in 10 yards of where you are (give or take 2 yards depending on if you're moving or not) then it'll work for Blizzard ^_^ |
| 13:41.32 | Maldivia | hmm... if using the feature to rotate the minimap, PingLocation(0, -10) or somethnig, should always be in the direction you're looking, right ? |
| 13:41.58 | widgertick | No idear |
| 13:52.00 | _Chloe | Is there any way to store a frame name in a variable, then recall it and perform a function on it? |
| 13:53.04 | Kaso | local frame = UIParent |
| 13:53.08 | Kaso | frame:Hide() |
| 13:53.14 | Kaso | just like any other variable |
| 13:53.26 | Kaso | Frames are just specialised tables |
| 13:54.05 | _Chloe | kk, i guess ive just been thinking this over too much |
| 13:54.34 | _Chloe | thanks a ton |
| 13:59.55 | Kaso | Wtf google docs spreadsheet doesnt support non-contiguous selection >< |
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| 14:44.02 | art3mis | http://www.joeydevilla.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/macgyver_hairdresser.jpg |
| 14:45.51 | art3mis | http://www.johnmwillis.com/other/top-10-worst-captchas/ |
| 14:46.08 | deltron | lol mcguyver mullets! |
| 14:47.16 | deltron | you wanna see some funny captcha? |
| 14:47.40 | deltron | http://hotcaptcha.com |
| 14:49.07 | art3mis | http://random.irb.hr/signup.php |
| 14:49.17 | art3mis | ^^ the one that uses math questions |
| 14:49.22 | deltron | yeah |
| 14:49.32 | deltron | I got an easy one after 5 refreshes |
| 14:49.47 | foxlit | Hrm, math questions? |
| 14:49.55 | deltron | http://random.irb.hr/latexrender/pictures/c50cde6a7c65701ea0b58a9aa1bc3570.gif |
| 14:50.00 | foxlit | Assuming you have OCR, wouldn't that be trivial? |
| 14:50.15 | deltron | you have to solve it though |
| 14:50.24 | foxlit | hai, i r bot! |
| 14:50.44 | |pez| | awww http://photos-e.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v47/63/74/14202205/n14202205_31560116_5195.jpg |
| 14:51.00 | foxlit | The more difficult part is extracting it from the image, once you have text and equation to go with it, stuff it into more or less any calculator :) |
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| 14:51.37 | foxlit | And, if we wanted to be really evil |
| 14:51.54 | foxlit | Code a bot that'd refresh until it got to the +-* puzzle and you only have 14 things to recognize |
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| 15:00.18 | art3mis | http://youtube.com/watch?v=9_hlWl1PKfo |
| 15:00.23 | art3mis | ^^ my ring tone |
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| 15:07.38 | foxlit | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Zuluhed&n=Atreju there we go, my evil twin! |
| 15:07.52 | foxlit | Though level kind of sucks. 55? Slacker! |
| 15:15.15 | ralfWORK | hely hell |
| 15:15.20 | ralfWORK | these captchas are horrible |
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| 15:16.00 | zenzelezz | which? |
| 15:16.03 | ralfWORK | all |
| 15:16.04 | ralfWORK | lol |
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| 15:44.32 | art3mis | i got my 12 sided die and im ready troll with a wizard and my goblin crew |
| 15:44.47 | art3mis | my friends are coming over to my moms basement bringing the funions and the mt dew |
| 15:45.10 | art3mis | i got a big broadsword made out of cardboard and the stereos pumping zepplin |
| 15:45.28 | art3mis | its that time of the night we turn on the black light let the dungeons and dragons begin |
| 15:46.38 | art3mis | WWFBD! |
| 15:46.51 | art3mis | What would Ferris Bueller Do? |
| 15:47.06 | Lopeppeppy | Dance in a parade. |
| 15:47.39 | art3mis | i recallllllllllll |
| 15:47.44 | art3mis | central park in falllllll |
| 15:47.54 | art3mis | how you tore your dress, what a mess i confess |
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| 15:53.30 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Jelly-dear. |
| 15:54.12 | zenzelezz | somehow I read that as "puts aside Cairenn"... |
| 15:54.58 | Lopeppeppy | No. Never. |
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| 15:58.31 | Industrial | pfff weekend |
| 15:58.46 | Industrial | I just weighed myself with gear (that I go to school woth) and without |
| 15:58.51 | Industrial | 15kg >_> |
| 15:58.59 | Industrial | (laptop, books etc) |
| 15:59.08 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah. Laptop cases can be heavy. |
| 15:59.57 | Industrial | plus Ihad to go by the supermarket so plus a .. how do you call that in english.. 24 cans of coke on a carton board :P + a bag of other groceries |
| 16:00.12 | Industrial | but im home now \o/ |
| 16:00.29 | Lopeppeppy | case of coke |
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| 16:05.14 | ralfWORK | yea a case |
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| 16:21.04 | Valaron|Work | Daylight savings start on Sunday. |
| 16:21.13 | ralfWORK | oh? |
| 16:21.19 | ralfWORK | I blame bush |
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| 16:21.52 | Valaron|Work | Me, too. |
| 16:22.11 | Valaron|Work | But for more than just that. |
| 16:22.44 | Valaron|Work | I get one less hour of sleep this weekend. |
| 16:22.48 | Valaron|Work | I weep for that loss. |
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| 16:32.41 | Vangual | any bored shammy on PTR using pitbull willing to test some addon? |
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| 16:36.47 | zenzelezz | god I hate the "rich" location bar in FF3 |
| 16:37.09 | wereHamster | how rich? |
| 16:37.54 | art3mis | he was so rich he had a solid gold ___________. |
| 16:39.13 | zenzelezz | it's "rich" in that it shows two lines per entry; an icon (favicon I think), and it matches what you type against both URLs *and* site titles, and it builds a frequency list about your page visits so the pages you visit more often show up on top or something like that |
| 16:39.46 | zenzelezz | basically means that typing "sl" to bring up the "slashdot.org" entry will also show pages with titles like "this is a slow page" and crap |
| 16:39.54 | wereHamster | oh you mean that.. I like it |
| 16:40.28 | zenzelezz | I hate it to my very core. Thankfully there's the oldbar extension, but I'd hope there'd be a simple setting in the final version |
| 16:40.31 | kergoth | i love that feature |
| 16:40.37 | kergoth | i used to run an extension in firefox2 to add it |
| 16:40.40 | kergoth | (autocomplete manager) |
| 16:40.51 | wereHamster | what's wrong with it? |
| 16:41.02 | kergoth | saves me a lot of time, completing bookmark/page titles and stuff |
| 16:41.05 | zenzelezz | nothing wrong with it; it just doesn't match my preference |
| 16:41.55 | zenzelezz | pages showing up with no title I assume is a bug of some sort; but 90% of all entries in my bar so far are things I have no interest in when I'm typing URLs |
| 16:42.18 | wereHamster | I admint that two lines per entry is a bit annoying, but the checking against titles and the frequency matching is nice |
| 16:43.10 | zenzelezz | I see why many like it; but I also see enough complaints around about it to hope they'd take the time to put a setting in the default configuration to disable it |
| 16:43.30 | wereHamster | it gets better with time, at first typing 'sl' brings up all sorts of pages, but once FF learns that you like slashdof, then it will appear right at the top |
| 16:44.15 | wereHamster | for how long have you been using FF3 now? |
| 16:44.20 | zenzelezz | I understand that, but I still don't like it :) Feels too huge and cluttered for my taste |
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| 16:50.59 | art3mis | i HATE that type ahead shit |
| 16:51.06 | art3mis | ive even disabled it and it still does it |
| 16:51.28 | ralfWORK | I like the wowhead typeahead stuff |
| 16:52.30 | ralfWORK | but that's pretty specific and it's accurate |
| 16:52.31 | art3mis | its great when you want/expect it |
| 16:52.43 | art3mis | but not that handy if you've specifically turned it off and it still appears |
| 16:52.49 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 16:52.53 | ralfWORK | yea, ok, that's lame |
| 16:53.22 | art3mis | ist almost reason for me to never use or reccomend firefox ever again |
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| 16:54.00 | art3mis | i meam i delete my page histories and cache for a reason |
| 16:54.01 | zenzelezz | I wouldn't say it's that bad, and you can disable it using an extension |
| 16:54.05 | zenzelezz | but I don't favor the feature |
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| 16:54.24 | art3mis | it simply shouldnt do it |
| 16:54.24 | Matrix110 | talking about the annoying new FF3 feature? :P |
| 16:54.28 | art3mis | yeah |
| 16:54.35 | art3mis | which extension? |
| 16:54.36 | Matrix110 | its SO FUCKING wrong everytime |
| 16:54.42 | Esine | FINALFANTASY3 FEATURE |
| 16:55.01 | ralfWORK | Esine: that's what I thought when they first started talking about FF3 :( |
| 16:55.25 | art3mis | it scans yer bookmarks and history |
| 16:55.32 | Matrix110 | i want to go to "mmo-champion.com" so i type as always mm and want to click on mmo-champion.com but NO it shows me "GiMMe a stick!" |
| 16:55.47 | ralfWORK | see, that's what would be annoying, to me |
| 16:55.51 | art3mis | despite having "delete that crap on close and clear history" |
| 16:55.54 | ralfWORK | I tell you what I hate |
| 16:56.02 | ralfWORK | is when I mistype a domain |
| 16:56.16 | ralfWORK | and now it will FOREVER be in the dropdown list |
| 16:56.22 | ralfWORK | wish you could remove single entries |
| 16:56.23 | Matrix110 | idd |
| 16:56.31 | ralfWORK | (maybe you can and I just don't know how) |
| 16:56.37 | zenzelezz | shift-delete still works if you don't bookmark it I think |
| 16:56.39 | art3mis | zenzelezz: which exention gets rid of it |
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| 16:56.52 | art3mis | and you go to about:config and toggle type ahead off |
| 16:56.59 | art3mis | and change all the settings there like the suggest |
| 16:57.01 | art3mis | and poof! |
| 16:57.05 | art3mis | it still friggin does it |
| 16:57.08 | ralfWORK | like if I hit 'forumms.worldofwarcraft.com' |
| 16:57.25 | zenzelezz | art3mis: actually I'm not sure if I understood you right after all, but there's an extension called "oldbar" |
| 16:57.27 | ralfWORK | now every time I type 'for' it will bring that up |
| 16:58.07 | art3mis | zenzelezz: the type a fwe letters and anything you've visited or bookmarked that matches the typed characters shows in a pull down in the urlbar |
| 16:58.22 | art3mis | that annoying thing |
| 16:58.31 | art3mis | so much for privacy ;P |
| 16:58.34 | Matrix110 | yeah oldbar seems to be the right addon |
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| 16:58.36 | Matrix110 | ill try that |
| 16:58.39 | art3mis | the priv features dont even override that |
| 16:59.36 | Matrix110 | get oldbar |
| 16:59.38 | Matrix110 | !!!!!!!! |
| 16:59.54 | Matrix110 | oh wait |
| 16:59.55 | Matrix110 | nvm... |
| 17:00.07 | Matrix110 | it just looks the old way then |
| 17:00.16 | art3mis | yup |
| 17:00.18 | zenzelezz | yeah, I think it only affects the display |
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| 17:14.11 | art3mis | yeah it doesnt look like "awesomebar" is going away |
| 17:14.25 | art3mis | so chances are i will switch to opera |
| 17:15.22 | art3mis | it at least understands that privacy means "dont friggin display all the regex matches from my bookmarks and history when i type |
| 17:15.51 | art3mis | and when i say dont save history it doesnt mean dont have it for the history bar but store it so that i can show it later with a bar you dont want |
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| 17:16.26 | Cide- | art3mis: wow |
| 17:16.34 | Cide- | that is 100% totally fully unrelated to privacy |
| 17:17.39 | cog|work | it is if someone else gets access to your computer... but then how much is a browser history really going to hurt you compared to everything else they now have access to? |
| 17:18.53 | Cide- | cog|work: it's unrelated to privacy because he chooses to store the history |
| 17:19.00 | Cide- | which means that anyone can still access all of it, if they'd like |
| 17:19.07 | Cide- | it just provides another means to the same end |
| 17:19.32 | art3mis | i choose to purge my history |
| 17:19.42 | art3mis | firefox however still stores it against my wishes and settings |
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| 17:19.49 | art3mis | so its gay little bar can search it |
| 17:20.03 | Cide | that sounds like a bug, then |
| 17:20.04 | art3mis | im talking b3 btw |
| 17:20.10 | art3mis | i checked the about:config |
| 17:20.11 | Cide | 'beta', you know |
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| 17:20.21 | art3mis | despite me having it toggled off in priv settings and 0 days |
| 17:20.28 | art3mis | tehrs a setting that says save it for 180 days |
| 17:20.41 | art3mis | thats ASIDE from the normal settings |
| 17:20.43 | cog|work | meh... it's all tinfoil hat imo |
| 17:20.53 | art3mis | its annoying as hell |
| 17:20.59 | Lopeppeppy | Gnomes look good in tinfoil hats. |
| 17:21.04 | art3mis | i dont want that feature |
| 17:21.11 | Cide | 0 days might be forever? :P |
| 17:21.14 | art3mis | it didnt used to exist unless i specifically enabled it |
| 17:21.27 | art3mis | nope these settings worked awesome in ff2 |
| 17:21.36 | art3mis | and save history is unticked anyways |
| 17:21.41 | art3mis | which should mean to purge it |
| 17:21.55 | art3mis | considering i have "purge history cache etc on close selected |
| 17:22.18 | art3mis | still there should be a way to disable it |
| 17:22.36 | art3mis | all the settings that relate to it that "should" turn it off are non functional |
| 17:22.49 | cog|work | art3mis: tell it to someone who cares... as in the FF dev team... |
| 17:22.52 | cog|work | rather than just bitching about it |
| 17:23.01 | Cide | it's a beta, expect it to have bugs |
| 17:23.04 | Cide | most betas do |
| 17:23.08 | Cide | most releases do, too |
| 17:24.24 | art3mis | cog|work: that would make me user 150001 ;P |
| 17:24.51 | art3mis | either way if it's not changed im gonna have to find something else that doesnt suck balls ;) |
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| 17:25.10 | Cide | yep. |
| 17:25.30 | art3mis | beta isnt an excuse to be crap and add shit you dont want withoutthe ability to turn it off btw ;P |
| 17:25.37 | art3mis | its not irriational at all |
| 17:25.43 | wereHamster | If you have such problems with FF3, why don't you go back to FF2? |
| 17:25.45 | art3mis | i DO NOT WANT THAT FEATURE |
| 17:25.48 | Cide | what are you talking about? I never said *you* were irrational. |
| 17:25.56 | art3mis | therefore im not going to use it if i cant disable that feature |
| 17:26.11 | art3mis | the comment came after my comment thus the association ;P |
| 17:26.24 | art3mis | its like safari |
| 17:26.40 | art3mis | if you wanna "priavte browse" you ahve to remember to manually select that each time you load it |
| 17:26.50 | art3mis | which is moderately retarded ;) |
| 17:26.51 | Cide | art3mis: notice the sarcasm in "what are you talking about? I never said *you* were irrational." |
| 17:27.18 | Cide | wereHamster raises a good point though |
| 17:27.26 | art3mis | its still not irrational to not use a product that does crap you dont want it to ;P |
| 17:27.46 | Cide | complaining that it doesn't work when it's a beta is pretty irrational imo |
| 17:28.08 | Cide | by using a beta you acknowledge that you'll have to deal with various bugs |
| 17:28.16 | art3mis | its not a bug appearantly |
| 17:28.19 | art3mis | bugs i can deal with |
| 17:28.39 | wereHamster | so what exactly is your problem? |
| 17:28.52 | art3mis | i dont want typeahead searching in my url bar |
| 17:28.56 | wereHamster | that FF3 doesn't behave like you want it to? |
| 17:29.06 | wereHamster | got back to FF2 then |
| 17:29.22 | wereHamster | or fix up the code, add an option for it, submit the patch |
| 17:29.29 | art3mis | i also dont want background behind the scenes history storage when i select "dont store history" in the privacy settings ;P |
| 17:29.37 | wereHamster | just bitching about it here won't change anything |
| 17:29.55 | art3mis | it didnt start as bitching until you guys seemed to think that you had to defend it ;P |
| 17:29.57 | clad|office | *sigh* looks like my internet is down =( |
| 17:30.06 | art3mis | i wanted to know if anyone had a way to override ;) |
| 17:30.24 | wereHamster | I defend what I think is useful for me, there's nothing wrong with it |
| 17:30.33 | Maldivia | art3mis: tried poking around in about:config |
| 17:30.58 | art3mis | Maldivia: every setting related to typeahead url bar and history and autocomplete |
| 17:31.13 | art3mis | technically if it actually read that stuff it should do nothing |
| 17:31.19 | art3mis | as it stands now |
| 17:32.02 | Maldivia | FF3b2, b3 or pre-b4? |
| 17:32.09 | art3mis | b3 |
| 17:32.44 | wereHamster | the latest should be b4 |
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| 17:32.50 | art3mis | its pre still |
| 17:32.57 | Maldivia | b3 annoyed the crap out of me, reinstalled b2 |
| 17:33.10 | art3mis | this "feature" has existed since b1 |
| 17:33.14 | Maldivia | I know |
| 17:33.18 | Maldivia | I actually like it :) |
| 17:33.27 | Maldivia | but b3 is just so unstable :| |
| 17:33.39 | wereHamster | I'm running b5pre |
| 17:33.52 | art3mis | the part that bugs me is that firefox has always been a browser you can configure to how you like it with very very very little actually forced upon you for behavior |
| 17:34.10 | art3mis | but that seems to have changed |
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| 17:34.17 | art3mis | stability isnt an issue |
| 17:34.21 | wereHamster | you still can, through extensions |
| 17:34.26 | art3mis | i havent had a single crash on this machine with it |
| 17:34.36 | art3mis | wereHamster: not in relation to this ;) |
| 17:34.44 | Maldivia | with b3, I crash 1-2 times an hour |
| 17:34.53 | art3mis | all the crashes ive had with the betas recently are on my work machine with the bad ram ;) |
| 17:35.03 | Maldivia | with b2, not a single crash |
| 17:35.11 | art3mis | since its up in the 80's now for useage per window |
| 17:35.21 | art3mis | 80mb |
| 17:35.50 | art3mis | i wonder if iceweasel compiles in cgywin |
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| 17:36.32 | art3mis | welp off to an appt, i'll bitch more later ;P |
| 17:39.35 | Maldivia | art3mis: btw, you do know the typeahead settings are for quick find, and not the address bar, right? |
| 17:40.35 | nevcairiel | its damn useful in the address bar tho =P |
| 17:41.52 | Maldivia | yeah, I like the "rich url bar" |
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| 18:28.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Anyone here a ret pally? |
| 18:28.28 | ralfWORK | lolret |
| 18:28.33 | ralfWORK | you said ret pally lol |
| 18:28.36 | ScytheBlade1 | I did |
| 18:28.43 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm wondering what this crap on the PTR forums is about |
| 18:28.50 | ralfWORK | oh idk |
| 18:28.51 | ScytheBlade1 | "Ret pallies need a spell interrupt" when they have two |
| 18:29.03 | Lopeppeppy | Which two do you refer to, ScytheBlade1? |
| 18:29.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Their stun and incapacitate |
| 18:29.21 | wereHamster | hammer of justice? |
| 18:29.22 | dylanm | Hammer of justice and the.. what's it called |
| 18:29.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Repentance |
| 18:29.35 | dylanm | Repentance |
| 18:29.36 | dylanm | Yeah |
| 18:29.49 | Lopeppeppy | There's the seal that occasionally procs a stun, and the Hammer of Justice with a cooldown.... I dont' have experience with repentance, is it a proc or long cooldown? |
| 18:29.56 | dylanm | The complaint about HoJ is that it gets resisted a lot. |
| 18:29.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Not even "long" |
| 18:30.07 | dylanm | One minute cooldown. |
| 18:30.26 | Lopeppeppy | Everyone has something they think is their class weakness. |
| 18:30.34 | ralfWORK | yep |
| 18:30.35 | ralfWORK | QQ more |
| 18:30.47 | zenzelezz | my class is perfect, and it weighs heavily on my mind |
| 18:30.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, this apparently went on long enough that the first thread was post capped |
| 18:30.48 | zenzelezz | ;-o |
| 18:30.51 | ScytheBlade1 | So they started a second |
| 18:31.00 | ralfWORK | wow |
| 18:31.08 | ralfWORK | and I thought priests QQd alot |
| 18:31.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Hence the curiosity |
| 18:31.11 | Lopeppeppy | It is good to express your unhappiness and be heard. *shrug* |
| 18:31.20 | ScytheBlade1 | As to why they need a spell interrupt, when they have a minimum of two |
| 18:31.34 | ScytheBlade1 | + teammates (as this was concerning PvP, which, means arena) |
| 18:31.53 | ralfWORK | omg priests don't have spell interrupts!! |
| 18:32.00 | dylanm | I really don't know who's worse between paladins and mages. |
| 18:32.32 | ScytheBlade1 | dylanm: "worse"? |
| 18:32.43 | dylanm | In terms of crying. |
| 18:32.48 | ralfWORK | priests, imo |
| 18:32.53 | ScytheBlade1 | lol, fair enough |
| 18:33.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Shaman don't really cry, they're actually a very aggressive bunch |
| 18:33.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Otherwise I'd add them to the list |
| 18:33.49 | Cide | priests do have it pretty bad |
| 18:33.54 | zenzelezz | shamans would cry, but they blow off enough steam using Windfury |
| 18:33.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Spec disc or die? |
| 18:34.06 | ralfWORK | yea I guess we have it bad |
| 18:34.08 | Cide | more like |
| 18:34.09 | ralfWORK | but guess what |
| 18:34.10 | ScytheBlade1 | zenzelezz: and dot shocks/bus shocks on the forums |
| 18:34.14 | ralfWORK | reroll if you don't like it |
| 18:34.15 | Cide | spec * and you'll never get anything off you |
| 18:34.16 | Cide | ever |
| 18:34.41 | cogumel0 | when dealing with coordinates and frames in wow... say I do myFrame:SetPoint("TOPLEFT", 0, 20)... does X increase to the right and Y increase down or Y increase to the right and Y increase UP from the point of reference? |
| 18:34.43 | deltron | shaman needs help |
| 18:34.52 | Cide | cogumel0: y increases up |
| 18:34.58 | cogumel0 | darn |
| 18:34.59 | Cide | x increases rright |
| 18:35.02 | Cide | right* |
| 18:35.20 | cogumel0 | I had pretty much figured x, and y for that matter... but was hoping there was some option I was missing :P |
| 18:35.37 | cogumel0 | having to deal with negative Y values to have it appear where I want is... a bit confusing and stupid tbh |
| 18:35.54 | ScytheBlade1 | cogumel0: welcome to WoW addons, enjoy your stay |
| 18:35.59 | zenzelezz | bottom-left coordinate systems aren't actually uncommon |
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| 18:37.19 | cogumel0 | you mean bottom-right? |
| 18:37.31 | kergoth | no, he means bottom left |
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| 18:38.40 | cogumel0 | ahh |
| 18:38.47 | cogumel0 | that's even more confusing if you ask me :P |
| 18:39.12 | cogumel0 | deltron, shaman is being buffed now. you simply can't have it all happen in 1 patch... |
| 18:39.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Meh, wtb Wrath where mages can actually somewhat counter locks. |
| 18:39.50 | cogumel0 | before for arena shamans could only go either resto (and pretty much suck at it compared to other healing classes) or elemental |
| 18:40.11 | cogumel0 | with 2.4 enhancement shamans will be a viable option ... very viable actually |
| 18:40.14 | cogumel0 | in fact... |
| 18:40.22 | nevcairiel | what makes shamans so viable in 2.4? |
| 18:40.33 | cogumel0 | 1) you can do enhance |
| 18:40.48 | cogumel0 | 2) warriors get an indirect buff that should REALLY please the party |
| 18:41.02 | cogumel0 | as it is... warriors can only go arms in arena |
| 18:41.06 | cogumel0 | because MS is a MUST |
| 18:41.08 | nevcairiel | i mean, whats new compared to before? |
| 18:41.17 | nevcairiel | the shaman MS thing was reverted already |
| 18:41.34 | cogumel0 | in 2.4 flametongue and searing totem give -50% healing debuff that lasts 5secs? |
| 18:41.43 | nevcairiel | removed already |
| 18:41.46 | cogumel0 | ohh... |
| 18:41.48 | nevcairiel | was only on PTR for one patch |
| 18:41.52 | cogumel0 | ok, my bad then |
| 18:41.54 | deltron | yep |
| 18:42.03 | cogumel0 | missinformed then :P |
| 18:42.06 | cogumel0 | well... tbh... |
| 18:42.10 | deltron | and the shamanistic rage thing is a nerf IMO |
| 18:42.15 | cogumel0 | I think that would actually be a bit too much |
| 18:42.18 | cogumel0 | well, true it is |
| 18:42.18 | Vangual | any bored shammy on PTR using pitbull willing to test some addon? :) |
| 18:42.30 | nevcairiel | deltron: shouldnt it have the same effect just in a shorter period of time? |
| 18:42.44 | nevcairiel | at least thats how i understood the change 0P |
| 18:43.26 | cogumel0 | but... if you think about it... warriors do more dps in fury... but they are "forced" to stay arms in arena because of MS |
| 18:43.27 | nevcairiel | fury is sustained dps yes, but MS is more of a burst if you're crit lucky |
| 18:43.29 | cogumel0 | give another class the ability to do the same debuff that MS does (such as flametongue was doing) and wars can and should go fury... |
| 18:43.43 | cogumel0 | and if warriors are already the most needed class in arena... then they'd be even more! |
| 18:43.50 | cogumel0 | more dps = enemies fall faster |
| 18:44.05 | ralfWORK | eh |
| 18:44.13 | ralfWORK | wouldn't you think that if warriors go fury for arena |
| 18:44.26 | ralfWORK | that all of a sudden, people will want shamans for the MS-like debuff |
| 18:44.35 | ralfWORK | and leave the warriors sitting on the bench? |
| 18:44.52 | cogumel0 | in terms of casters... it goes further because having 1 hit every 3.6 secs (only counting white dmg) can't be compared with 2 hits every 2 secs when it comes to spell interruptions... |
| 18:45.19 | cogumel0 | ralfWORK, no. simply because wars have more hp, more def (basically more survivability) and deal more dmg |
| 18:45.55 | nevcairiel | shamans have a range interrupt, warrs have to melee that |
| 18:46.05 | nevcairiel | shsmans can purge |
| 18:46.21 | cogumel0 | warriors can charge, intercept and the other 1 |
| 18:46.34 | ralfWORK | pummel |
| 18:46.37 | ralfWORK | shield bash |
| 18:47.31 | cogumel0 | as someone once said... "it's not about how much damage you can do. It's about how much damage you can take and keep going" |
| 18:47.59 | nevcairiel | warrs in arenas fall pretty fast too |
| 18:48.14 | nevcairiel | in full arena gear, they generally have no hp bonus over other classes |
| 18:48.20 | ralfWORK | I guess at a certain gearing level |
| 18:48.24 | cogumel0 | besides... shaman's do have a ranged interrupt... that's true... |
| 18:48.40 | cogumel0 | but it only lasts 2 secs and has minimum 5 secs CD |
| 18:48.42 | nevcairiel | only thing they have is a tad bit more armor |
| 18:48.44 | cogumel0 | and it's literally only 1 |
| 18:48.46 | ralfWORK | I'm not a real big arena person |
| 18:48.50 | ralfWORK | but they have some more armor |
| 18:48.59 | ralfWORK | probably not alot more HP, in arena gear |
| 18:49.08 | cogumel0 | nevcairiel, they still have a bit more hp... |
| 18:49.27 | cogumel0 | tbh, I think that should be fixed and wars should have more hp in arena gear |
| 18:49.36 | nevcairiel | why? |
| 18:49.40 | cogumel0 | I've seen mages with more hp than warriors... |
| 18:49.47 | nevcairiel | just because they're warriors? |
| 18:49.58 | nevcairiel | because they can re-spec to tanking they deserve more hp? :) |
| 18:49.59 | ralfWORK | you want more HP? put on a shield |
| 18:50.01 | Industrial | yey ungoro |
| 18:50.05 | cogumel0 | just because they rely on it to survive? |
| 18:50.21 | ralfWORK | ungoro ftw |
| 18:50.31 | Shirik | HAI |
| 18:50.32 | nevcairiel | what can other classes do when their hp goes low? |
| 18:50.35 | Shirik | Did you miss me? |
| 18:50.41 | nevcairiel | not really |
| 18:50.42 | cogumel0 | mages can use several sorts of shields, iceblock if frost, which everyone is, summon a guy to help, freeze ppl in place an run away, blink, etc etc. |
| 18:50.53 | cogumel0 | well... let's see... |
| 18:50.59 | Industrial | warriors can interrupt stun and do big spike damage |
| 18:51.06 | cogumel0 | pally= bubble, heal |
| 18:51.08 | Industrial | fear |
| 18:51.24 | nevcairiel | a hunter can fake his own death and trick stupid players, but thats about it in defense :P |
| 18:51.29 | cogumel0 | shaman= instant heal, heal, heal, heal (class is missing CCs, that much I admit) |
| 18:52.03 | cogumel0 | warlock = fear, leech hp by channelling, share dmg with pet, steal hp by dot ... |
| 18:52.07 | Industrial | yes, wtb some uber shamanistic cc |
| 18:52.31 | Industrial | fear totem lol ;p |
| 18:52.52 | cogumel0 | hunter = stun from pet, stun from ranged, stun from this, stun from that, frost trap, +30% speed, run. |
| 18:53.11 | cogumel0 | mage = iceblock, mana shield, pet, blink, frost nova |
| 18:53.34 | Industrial | meh everyone can launch a ranged attack on a hunter and daze him |
| 18:53.37 | cogumel0 | rogue = lol ? |
| 18:53.49 | ralfWORK | cloak of lol |
| 18:54.03 | cogumel0 | Industrial, not if you are stunned, frozen, etc etc. |
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| 18:54.47 | ralfWORK | heh ya |
| 18:54.53 | cogumel0 | cloak of lol? more like... blind, vanish, cloak, evasiveness, stun, stun, stun, stun |
| 18:55.02 | ralfWORK | yea, that :) |
| 18:55.07 | cogumel0 | priest = fear, shield, hot, heal, heal |
| 18:55.19 | ralfWORK | yea I guess |
| 18:55.21 | cogumel0 | war = fear. period. |
| 18:55.29 | ralfWORK | shield doesn't last long |
| 18:55.54 | cogumel0 | hot ? :P |
| 18:56.01 | ralfWORK | oh yea |
| 18:56.02 | cogumel0 | renew + shield |
| 18:56.07 | ralfWORK | hot and prayer of mending |
| 18:56.11 | cogumel0 | yep |
| 18:56.12 | ralfWORK | big heals :P |
| 18:56.23 | cogumel0 | druid = don't get me started ......... |
| 18:56.34 | cogumel0 | I think I've pretty much covered all classes |
| 18:56.49 | cogumel0 | point is... except for a shaman every single class has CCs |
| 18:56.50 | ralfWORK | when you go pow pow pow and then he goes bare form and has moar hp than jesus?! |
| 18:57.10 | cogumel0 | but shaman can heal "normally" and instant heal -.- |
| 18:57.46 | ralfWORK | guess the closest thing they got is that earthbind totem |
| 18:57.49 | ralfWORK | or whatever the slowing one is |
| 18:58.01 | cogumel0 | and warriors can't really rely on a fear that has like 5m CD to save their lives |
| 18:58.25 | ralfWORK | even a 30s psychic scream isn't enough really |
| 18:58.25 | cogumel0 | shamans at a certain point can pretty much ONLY rely on instant heal, but it's better than nothing -.- |
| 18:58.29 | ralfWORK | over in 30s anyways |
| 18:58.53 | cogumel0 | no ralfWORK, I meant that everyoen that goes pvp has insignia of the horde/alliance |
| 18:59.00 | ralfWORK | cogumel0: ahh |
| 18:59.14 | cogumel0 | sure, you fear... start bandage 'cause you can't heal yourself... |
| 18:59.24 | cogumel0 | and half a second later he's back! |
| 18:59.36 | cogumel0 | and now what? |
| 18:59.42 | ralfWORK | now you die |
| 18:59.47 | cogumel0 | exactly :P |
| 18:59.52 | cogumel0 | that's why wars rely so much on hp |
| 19:00.01 | cogumel0 | but when you have a mage that has more hp than a war -.- that's just stupid |
| 19:00.20 | cogumel0 | and warlocks... |
| 19:00.39 | ralfWORK | locks have always been stam based |
| 19:00.53 | cogumel0 | and wars haven't? |
| 19:01.02 | ralfWORK | for tanking they have |
| 19:01.16 | cogumel0 | and for dpsing they should also be. ofc not as much as for tanking... |
| 19:01.23 | cogumel0 | but still a visible distinction from every other class |
| 19:01.51 | cog|work | that's what plate's for :P |
| 19:02.05 | cogumel0 | if a warlock finds a place where he doesn't get hit by a mob... he can solo ANYTHING |
| 19:02.18 | cogumel0 | as it's been proved by wls soloing mana tombs using bugs |
| 19:02.32 | cogumel0 | no other class can do that... |
| 19:02.42 | cogumel0 | well maybe a hunter |
| 19:03.09 | cogumel0 | but it's the only class that can solo and still have more than 60% mana in the end of the fight, regardless of how long the fight actually lasts |
| 19:03.25 | ralfWORK | iirc, rogues can do it |
| 19:03.26 | cogumel0 | leech life + life tap ... infinite mana and hp |
| 19:03.36 | Shirik | ....... |
| 19:03.43 | Shirik | for any of you that remember the GM ticket I sent last night |
| 19:03.57 | Shirik | that guy I reported sent me 2500g, sitting in my mail right now |
| 19:04.11 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 19:04.14 | cogumel0 | take it! |
| 19:04.20 | Shirik | .... no. |
| 19:04.23 | cogumel0 | lol |
| 19:04.27 | cogumel0 | what did you report him for? |
| 19:04.28 | ralfWORK | why... not? |
| 19:04.30 | cogumel0 | can I have it then? |
| 19:04.52 | Shirik | this is what I reported him for: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/3cd677c786fa715b8ee703cfc10858ea.jpg |
| 19:05.27 | ralfWORK | wtf |
| 19:05.47 | Cide | Shirik: nice |
| 19:05.53 | Cide | now accept it |
| 19:05.53 | nevcairiel | rofl Shirik |
| 19:06.18 | Industrial | !c eu vashj saved |
| 19:06.22 | WoWLuaircBot | Industrial: Saved, Level 50 Undead Warlock (0/41/0). 2595 HP; 4139 Mana; 102 mana regen; 34 spell crit; 176 +spell dmg; 5.19% dodge; 25 shadow resist (+10); 10 nature resist;[[ TBR: 490 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2hx9p2 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/33f73o ][ Updated: Fri Mar 7 14:16:10 2008 EST ]] |
| 19:06.51 | Industrial | please do kill me while I have 3 mobs on me |
| 19:06.52 | Industrial | ..|. |
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| 19:06.56 | Kaso | Shirik wait what? |
| 19:06.59 | Kaso | you dont want money? |
| 19:07.08 | Shirik | no |
| 19:07.08 | cogumel0 | lol |
| 19:07.16 | Cide | Shirik: transfer to my server and giev it to me |
| 19:07.18 | cogumel0 | can I have it? |
| 19:07.20 | cogumel0 | xD |
| 19:07.24 | cogumel0 | I asked first |
| 19:07.26 | cogumel0 | lol |
| 19:07.28 | Cide | no you didn't |
| 19:07.32 | Cide | <Cide> Shirik: transfer to my server and giev it to me |
| 19:07.32 | Cide | <cogumel0> can I have it? |
| 19:07.43 | cogumel0 | I asked it before he gave us the link |
| 19:07.47 | cogumel0 | have a look |
| 19:07.49 | Cide | I don't care |
| 19:07.54 | Cide | I'm always right |
| 19:07.57 | cogumel0 | -.- |
| 19:07.58 | Kaso | hah |
| 19:08.00 | nevcairiel | No you're not |
| 19:08.00 | cogumel0 | lol |
| 19:08.07 | nevcairiel | only ops can claim that |
| 19:08.08 | Cide | nevcairiel: see? you're wrong, since I am |
| 19:08.09 | nevcairiel | voices cant |
| 19:08.10 | nevcairiel | =P |
| 19:08.25 | Kaso | Shirik, so whats the story? mistaken gold traders? |
| 19:08.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: give ME the money then. |
| 19:08.34 | Shirik | no these are people in my guild |
| 19:08.52 | Kaso | and why dont you want gold from them? |
| 19:09.02 | Shirik | because I don't like taking things I don't deserve |
| 19:09.17 | ralfWORK | I'm calling shenanigans |
| 19:09.19 | Kaso | Why are they sending it, and why dont you deserve it? |
| 19:09.37 | Shirik | read the report :P |
| 19:10.18 | Kaso | i read the picture, but you mentioned 2500g earlier? |
| 19:10.46 | Kaso | Also 100% interest for a few weeks loan, that really isnt deserved |
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| 19:12.14 | Shirik | Kaso: The 2500g just appeared out of nowhere |
| 19:12.23 | Shirik | probably because I was complaining about him sending back my payments |
| 19:12.43 | ralfWORK | send it to him |
| 19:12.46 | ralfWORK | then put him on ignore |
| 19:12.54 | ralfWORK | or does that not block mail? |
| 19:12.55 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 19:13.27 | Shirik | I don't think it does |
| 19:14.07 | Kaso | He's clearly got more money than he needs, so why not just let him be nice and feel good about himself by gifting you 25(75) gold? |
| 19:14.37 | ralfWORK | deposit it into guild bavk |
| 19:14.38 | ralfWORK | *bank |
| 19:14.44 | sacarasc | yeah, gb it |
| 19:18.57 | Industrial | I have the perfect name for an energy drink like red bull |
| 19:18.59 | Industrial | Mana Potion |
| 19:19.03 | Industrial | :D/ |
| 19:19.41 | ralfWORK | already exists :) |
| 19:19.43 | Shirik | primal mana would be an awesome name for an energy drink |
| 19:20.19 | nevcairiel | wasnt there a engery drink named "Mana Potion" ? |
| 19:21.09 | Industrial | oh :, |
| 19:21.10 | Industrial | :< |
| 19:21.10 | Lopeppeppy | Yup. |
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| 19:22.47 | Nechckn | http://manapotions.com/ tempting... |
| 19:22.56 | Nechckn | anyone ever actually tried it? |
| 19:23.35 | nevcairiel | its probably just another enegery drink with a too high price |
| 19:24.21 | Nechckn | and that sucker is "high priced" too! damn |
| 19:24.39 | Nechckn | I've been crazy enough to get Bawls from Thinkgeek... but not that crazy |
| 19:25.46 | Nechckn | equivalent to about two 8-ounce Red Bulls® or four cups of crappy office coffee - I like their marketing, at least. |
| 19:26.05 | kergoth | bawls is awesome |
| 19:26.11 | Nechckn | meh.. it's one of those tiny shot-type thingers, holy damn, not for that price! |
| 19:26.12 | kergoth | used to buy cases of it at the local soda store |
| 19:26.13 | Kaso | wtf that mana potion is a tiny bottle |
| 19:26.19 | nevcairiel | i saw some vitamin pills called "Brain FPS" last week |
| 19:26.27 | Nechckn | Yeah Kaso I just saw that |
| 19:26.28 | kergoth | hah |
| 19:26.44 | Nechckn | kergoth see, I need a cool soda shop like what you have |
| 19:26.57 | nevcairiel | http://www.fpsbrain.com/ |
| 19:26.59 | Nechckn | shipping sucks on such things, but TG is really close to me |
| 19:27.02 | nevcairiel | FpsBrain .. that was it |
| 19:27.03 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 19:27.36 | kergoth | i'm surpirsed this place hasnt come out with more locations, they've got dr pepper made with cane sugar and shit, its great.. course lately i dont drink much soda anymore, trying to cut back ont eh calories, but its good to have the option |
| 19:28.37 | Nechckn | Hmm... indeed it is. That would be a sorta cool business.. you could carry all the whackey stuff you wanted- and get free samples! |
| 19:29.12 | kergoth | http://www.popsoda.com/ is hte place here.. looks liek they ship too, bet its pricey though |
| 19:30.01 | Nechckn | hehehe woops "Due to the threat of litigation from PepsiCo, we will no longer sell Pepsi!. " |
| 19:30.55 | Nechckn | Oh my.. they have quite the selection... I'll check out some of the more rare vintages- thanks kergoth! |
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| 19:32.41 | duaiwe | heh, today's xkcd is quite good |
| 19:32.51 | deltron | I heard those mana potions taste terrible |
| 19:33.37 | Nechckn | Just think of all the Arcane ingredients.. of course it wouldn't taste good- silly u! |
| 19:34.16 | deltron | oh god the names of some of these drinks are awesome |
| 19:34.17 | deltron | http://www.popsoda.com/fukolacola.html |
| 19:35.59 | Nechckn | not something you'll likely see at your local 7-11 |
| 19:36.21 | deltron | http://www.popsoda.com/notseekola.html |
| 19:36.27 | deltron | that one is funny also |
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| 19:38.06 | Industrial | Why doesnt frost shock benefit from teh stormstrike debuff? |
| 19:38.50 | sacarasc | because it's frost not nature damage? |
| 19:38.54 | Nechckn | it's not nature based... I believe |
| 19:39.04 | Nechckn | heheh as sacarasc said... |
| 19:39.26 | Industrial | well does earth shock then? |
| 19:39.30 | Industrial | lightningbolt doesnt |
| 19:39.37 | sacarasc | lightning bolt does |
| 19:39.39 | deltron | yes it does |
| 19:39.41 | sacarasc | as does earthshock |
| 19:39.48 | Industrial | oh it does |
| 19:39.52 | Nechckn | just not frost or flame shock |
| 19:39.53 | Industrial | hmm. |
| 19:39.59 | sacarasc | and chain lightning, a lot of rogue poisons and many druid spells |
| 19:39.59 | deltron | LB, CL, ES, wrath |
| 19:40.01 | deltron | umm |
| 19:40.08 | Industrial | I never use earth beyond rank 1, maybe I should :p |
| 19:40.43 | deltron | yep |
| 19:40.47 | sacarasc | Industrial: it's quite nice... usually get about 1k damage from the top rank after a stormstrike |
| 19:40.51 | deltron | max rank ES always |
| 19:40.57 | sacarasc | and i've critted up to 1800 |
| 19:41.19 | Industrial | I only use es to interrupt (rank 1) |
| 19:42.24 | Nechckn | is that because you've plaid your shaman for a long time? es used to have extra threat so it took a bit to get back into using it once that threat got removed a while back |
| 19:42.32 | mikma | http://energystandard.blogspot.com/2007/12/usa-green-car-of-year.html |
| 19:42.45 | Industrial | prolly cause i havent played enough ;) my sham is 52 now |
| 19:43.00 | Nechckn | cool, cool |
| 19:43.13 | sacarasc | ah, the fun times of beating up undead |
| 19:43.21 | deltron | I only hit 1640 DPS on teron gorefiend :( |
| 19:43.36 | zenzelezz | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/03/07/funny-pictures-yup-im-in-hell/ |
| 19:43.52 | Industrial | I use a macro that uses either ES1 or LHW (max) on mouseover, tot, focus, target, player |
| 19:43.55 | Industrial | :> |
| 19:43.58 | Industrial | its my "oh shit" button |
| 19:46.28 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:46.31 | Nechckn | zenzelezz that is cute... what is scary is the one link from that page- http://speaklolspeak.com/?t=anon |
| 19:50.47 | Industrial | mouseover is really handy in bg's |
| 19:51.47 | Nechckn | indeed |
| 19:52.24 | Industrial | using highest rank ES now, directly increased my DPS with storm strike |
| 19:53.00 | Industrial | (so thanks :p) |
| 19:53.07 | Nechckn | I just wish one of the healing spells were just a tad bit faster... even a rank 1 would be handy but.. otherwise I like my shaman. |
| 19:54.27 | Industrial | A shaman question: can I make sure that WF procs on stormstrike -> normal -> stormstrike -> normal ? sometimes that ahppens and I get really ncie dps |
| 19:55.29 | Cide | make sure? |
| 19:55.31 | Cide | isn't it a proc? |
| 19:55.34 | NightHawkTheSane | not really. the best you can do is time your stormstrikes to occur outside the 3s cooldown |
| 19:55.58 | NightHawkTheSane | but, to be honest, i don't think it's vastly worth it to delay a stormstrike by more than a second or two just for that |
| 19:56.00 | Nechckn | there ya go.. as NightHawkTheSane suggests, that's about all you can do to "help it along" |
| 19:56.53 | Industrial | k |
| 19:57.06 | Industrial | maybe with a really slow 4.0 twohander ;P |
| 19:57.26 | NightHawkTheSane | maybe, but no one really uses two handers anyway. :P |
| 19:58.55 | Lopeppeppy | ..... |
| 19:59.01 | Industrial | also im still using http://www.wowhead.com/?item=863 Of The Eagle :< cant find any other offhand. I have offhands 2.10 speed that do twice the dps. when is it worth switching? |
| 19:59.59 | Lopeppeppy | Not sure about that, zenzelezz, but thanks for the thought? |
| 20:00.00 | Industrial | I'm level 52 |
| 20:01.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Industrial: honestly, i'm not sure, but it takes a fair bit of dps to make a fast OH worth it. Although, frankly, for anything before 65ish, its not a big deal. |
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| 20:03.24 | Shirik | lmao |
| 20:03.37 | Shirik | [2.Trade] I thought the big patch was coming out today? |
| 20:04.41 | sag_ich_nicht | [20:57] <Industrial> maybe with a really slow 4.0 twohander ;P <--gimme! |
| 20:05.10 | zenzelezz | I'd prefer a really fast 4.0 twohander |
| 20:05.17 | sag_ich_nicht | *m |
| 20:05.21 | sag_ich_nicht | there you made me make a typo |
| 20:05.26 | sag_ich_nicht | that's how dumb your comment was! |
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| 20:05.54 | Shirik | oi, big storm coming in I guess |
| 20:06.01 | Shirik | I guess that's what all the tornado watches were for |
| 20:06.04 | Shirik | OMG that's a lot of rain |
| 20:06.24 | Shirik | <-- hates storms |
| 20:06.33 | ralfWORK | why? |
| 20:07.04 | Lopeppeppy | I have an extra closet you can hide in, Shirik, I hate violent storms too. |
| 20:08.42 | Shirik | what do you mean why? |
| 20:10.25 | ralfWORK | why do you hate storms? |
| 20:11.05 | zenzelezz | because the healers always focus on the tanks so the DPS dies in the storms |
| 20:11.14 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 20:12.38 | Shirik | because it's going to eat me! |
| 20:14.20 | Lopeppeppy | They often do, Shirik. *hug* |
| 20:15.35 | ralfWORK | just never heard anyone say "I hate storms" |
| 20:16.17 | Lopeppeppy | Keep meeting people, it's rather a common thing. |
| 20:16.43 | Shirik | they're scary :/ |
| 20:16.47 | ralfWORK | funny. |
| 20:17.12 | Shirik | It doesn't help that ever since a year ago, the school sends out warnings and a siren every time a tornado watch is posted for our area |
| 20:17.28 | Shirik | since one of the buildings was destroyed by a tornado last year, though fortunately it happened on christmas and nobody was there |
| 20:17.36 | Lopeppeppy | Scary, dangerous, nasty. Tornados, blizzards, floods, violent thunderstorms that rock back and forth in the valleys.... ugh. |
| 20:17.50 | Industrial | What I don't understand is why people live in areas where you have tornados every year |
| 20:18.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Industrial: because that is a LARGE PORTION of the US |
| 20:18.25 | Shirik | yeah |
| 20:18.39 | Industrial | oh |
| 20:18.44 | Industrial | (dunno) |
| 20:18.48 | ScytheBlade1 | It is :) |
| 20:19.17 | ScytheBlade1 | At least 1/4 of the entire US? Or so? |
| 20:19.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Maybe even 1/3 |
| 20:19.37 | Shirik | "The storm also caused extensive damage at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University in Daytona Beach. Small planes flipped over, and one of the planes slammed into a university building." |
| 20:19.56 | Shirik | Since then, they go nuts with tornado watches/warnings |
| 20:20.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, make that half |
| 20:20.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Industrial: http://www.nesec.org/images/haz_tornado_alley.gif |
| 20:20.24 | Industrial | holy shiat |
| 20:20.28 | ScytheBlade1 | There you go |
| 20:20.29 | Industrial | move to europe or something? |
| 20:20.33 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 20:20.38 | Shirik | And that's only F3-F5 |
| 20:20.43 | NightHawkTheSane | Industrial: you want all several hundred million of us? :P |
| 20:20.55 | Industrial | no leave the stupid ones |
| 20:21.00 | Shirik | ok so you want the 10 of us |
| 20:21.00 | Industrial | we have room for the smart ones |
| 20:21.15 | NightHawkTheSane | ... i... i don't think we HAVE any smart ones. |
| 20:24.10 | Industrial | leave the really fat ones too |
| 20:24.18 | Industrial | well burn all the mc'donalds' here |
| 20:24.25 | Industrial | profit! |
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| 20:26.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Industrial: so half the US is "tornado alley." Then you have California, known for earthquakes, a bunch of states that do nothing but *bake* in the summer, and then the states devoid of population, or, where the cows outnumber the people |
| 20:27.11 | ScytheBlade1 | That's a mostly accurate summary, imo |
| 20:28.02 | Lopeppeppy | I grew up where there are earthquakces and tornadoes and more deer than people... Nature is constant, humans just try to ignore it. |
| 20:28.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh, well said |
| 20:28.59 | Industrial | ScytheBlade1: I live in the lowest part of the world.. I think.. if the sea level rises like it does now half the country will flood |
| 20:29.11 | Industrial | but aside from that im pretty safe from anything |
| 20:29.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Industrial: yup, so will hawaii and a fair portion of hawaii. |
| 20:29.20 | ScytheBlade1 | .. |
| 20:29.23 | ScytheBlade1 | hawaii and california |
| 20:29.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Alaska would just freeze over. |
| 20:29.36 | Lopeppeppy | And a lot of Florida, and nYC |
| 20:29.39 | Lopeppeppy | NYC that is. |
| 20:31.31 | Lopeppeppy | With cheese. |
| 20:33.15 | Industrial | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1LVmbIRh-c |
| 20:33.25 | Industrial | ergh shitty quality audio |
| 20:34.22 | Kaso | Wikipedia and Wikitionary keep swapping location in my firefox search box, which sucks as they have the same logo >.< |
| 20:39.48 | ScytheBlade1 | lol @ http://www.sltrib.com/ci_8491414 |
| 20:39.56 | ralfWORK | Industrial: rofl where are you? |
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| 20:42.41 | Industrial | the netherlands |
| 20:43.01 | ralfWORK | ahh I always ask that |
| 20:43.02 | ralfWORK | kk |
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| 20:44.13 | Industrial | http://www.fragilecologies.com/img/netherlands.gif |
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| 20:44.43 | ralfWORK | did you guys do that seed vault up northe? |
| 20:44.44 | Industrial | ralfWORK: that would explain what im saying ;) |
| 20:44.58 | ralfWORK | or was that Norway? |
| 20:45.25 | Industrial | norway |
| 20:45.37 | ralfWORK | oh so you're Europe's version of New Orleans |
| 20:45.39 | ralfWORK | gg ;) |
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| 20:46.32 | Industrial | man I so love Blessing of Wisdom on my sham :< |
| 20:46.37 | ralfWORK | hehe |
| 20:46.37 | Industrial | water totem sucks |
| 20:46.39 | Industrial | :p |
| 20:46.47 | ralfWORK | BoW is god |
| 20:46.51 | ralfWORK | but I like salv better :( |
| 20:48.20 | ScytheBlade1 | I'll take BoW over salv period |
| 20:49.09 | Industrial | whee eureka seven op |
| 20:49.26 | ralfWORK | ScytheBlade1: class? |
| 20:49.30 | ScytheBlade1 | mage! |
| 20:49.39 | ralfWORK | well of course you would :) |
| 20:49.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah :) |
| 20:50.13 | ralfWORK | shadowpriest here. gg no threat dump :( |
| 20:50.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, I'm going to hit a mana barrier before I hit a threat barrier. Not so in your case ;) |
| 20:50.47 | ralfWORK | nope! :d |
| 20:50.58 | ralfWORK | D: |
| 20:51.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Unbuffed, it's trivial for me to run oom in about a minute doing single-target DPS |
| 20:51.44 | ralfWORK | what are your numbers? |
| 20:52.04 | ScytheBlade1 | http://wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Doomhammer&n=Sbo |
| 20:52.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Err |
| 20:52.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Whoops |
| 20:53.50 | ralfWORK | uhm |
| 20:53.51 | ralfWORK | hahaha |
| 20:53.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Unbuffed, 6.9k HP, 8.5k mana, +905 dmg |
| 20:53.55 | ralfWORK | you naked there or? |
| 20:53.59 | ralfWORK | k |
| 20:53.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes :( |
| 20:54.09 | ralfWORK | HAHAHAHAH GG |
| 20:54.18 | ralfWORK | but ok |
| 20:55.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Seven Karazahn epics, and I pulled #1 damage done on our first Kael kill |
| 20:55.12 | ScytheBlade1 | For fire, you crit and you get mana back. |
| 20:55.23 | ralfWORK | ok, I thought you got some that way too |
| 20:55.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Either that, or you use Mage Armor for increased mp5 in combat |
| 20:55.29 | ralfWORK | ya |
| 20:55.35 | ralfWORK | mana oil or damage oil? |
| 20:55.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Damage, mana oil isn't worth it |
| 20:55.59 | ralfWORK | k |
| 20:56.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, and mana gems. |
| 20:56.13 | ralfWORK | yea, I knew about the gems |
| 20:56.30 | ScytheBlade1 | That's the entire extent of mage mana regen |
| 20:56.31 | ralfWORK | I chainpot like it's going outa style |
| 20:56.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Mana for crits is fire only though |
| 20:57.12 | ralfWORK | heh |
| 20:57.32 | ralfWORK | I think I pulled... 3rd on Nalorakk? |
| 20:57.58 | ralfWORK | we have this BM hunter who's freaking insane |
| 20:58.07 | ralfWORK | he's an alt of another person |
| 20:58.08 | ScytheBlade1 | BM is insane in general, yes |
| 20:58.24 | ralfWORK | and he basically dinged 70 and came and smacked us all in the face on damage |
| 20:58.31 | Industrial | lol |
| 20:58.35 | ralfWORK | even though we basicaly had kara farmed |
| 20:58.39 | ralfWORK | and he was in 70 blues |
| 20:58.48 | ralfWORK | (I'm exaggerating, but only a little bit) |
| 20:59.09 | Industrial | I cant measure for raids but my bm hunter tops av almsot every match >_> |
| 20:59.11 | Industrial | in damage |
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| 20:59.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, and I'm wearing the blue rep sword |
| 20:59.31 | ScytheBlade1 | From Keepers of Time |
| 20:59.39 | ralfWORK | rofl |
| 20:59.41 | ScytheBlade1 | And we're working on Hyjal. |
| 20:59.47 | ralfWORK | bwahahahaha |
| 20:59.48 | ralfWORK | see |
| 20:59.55 | ralfWORK | you might just play with bad DPS |
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| 21:00.07 | ralfWORK | then again, maybe we are all bad too |
| 21:00.09 | ScytheBlade1 | I know I do. But I also know how to effectively DPS. ;) |
| 21:00.23 | ralfWORK | no reason a stupid 70 in blues should be doing anything compared to epiced DPS classes |
| 21:01.00 | ralfWORK | or epic hybrid classes for that matter |
| 21:03.04 | ScytheBlade1 | And I just bought the HH exalted sword, because I'm poor. |
| 21:03.15 | ralfWORK | you shoulda had that by now! |
| 21:03.16 | ScytheBlade1 | (In terms of my options.) |
| 21:03.16 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 21:03.23 | ScytheBlade1 | I could have picked it up forever ago |
| 21:03.27 | ralfWORK | oh ok |
| 21:03.37 | ralfWORK | you've been that poor or you've been that unlucky? |
| 21:03.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Unlucky |
| 21:03.45 | wereHamster | so let's see who here is a hacker.. ScytheBlade1, you posted a link, therefore you must be a hacker :) |
| 21:03.48 | ralfWORK | that sucks |
| 21:03.49 | ScytheBlade1 | About seven months now |
| 21:04.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Clearing Kara for seven months |
| 21:04.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Not once |
| 21:04.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Gruul for six months |
| 21:04.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Not once |
| 21:04.09 | ralfWORK | wow |
| 21:04.11 | ralfWORK | wow dude |
| 21:04.11 | ScytheBlade1 | SSC for four months |
| 21:04.12 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 21:04.16 | ralfWORK | so wait |
| 21:04.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Once, went to a WARLOCK. |
| 21:04.27 | ralfWORK | have you lost rolls, or it's not even *dropping* |
| 21:04.29 | ralfWORK | ugh |
| 21:04.30 | ScytheBlade1 | And now we're done in SSC and never going back |
| 21:04.32 | ralfWORK | ok |
| 21:04.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Lost the bid once |
| 21:04.40 | ScytheBlade1 | That was SSC |
| 21:04.42 | ralfWORK | rofl |
| 21:04.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Kara/Gruul |
| 21:04.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Never ever ever ever dropped |
| 21:04.52 | ralfWORK | we've done kara for 6 months |
| 21:05.02 | ralfWORK | just last month I got my trash necklace |
| 21:05.20 | ralfWORK | after losing the roll to EVERY OTHER GOD!@# CLASS |
| 21:05.23 | ralfWORK | like 3 time |
| 21:05.24 | ralfWORK | s |
| 21:05.37 | ScytheBlade1 | At least it dropped for you :) |
| 21:05.51 | ScytheBlade1 | I've seen the Kara dagger never, the Gruul sword never, and the Leo sword once, and lost that to a warlock. |
| 21:06.00 | ralfWORK | yea |
| 21:06.08 | ralfWORK | I'm not sure which is more frustrating |
| 21:06.12 | ralfWORK | losing it all the time |
| 21:06.15 | ralfWORK | or having it never drop |
| 21:06.22 | ralfWORK | personally, I'm going with losing it all the time |
| 21:07.04 | ScytheBlade1 | At least you're not in Hyjal with a blue rep sword. |
| 21:07.10 | ralfWORK | rofl |
| 21:07.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Wearing the Nightbane chest |
| 21:07.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Spellstrike hood |
| 21:07.41 | ralfWORK | hey now |
| 21:07.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Bracers of Havok, but, those are pimp |
| 21:07.45 | ralfWORK | spellstrike ftw |
| 21:07.54 | ralfWORK | ScytheBlade1: the blue craftables? |
| 21:07.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup. |
| 21:08.04 | ralfWORK | yea those are totally pimp |
| 21:08.09 | ralfWORK | I'm still wearing them |
| 21:08.10 | ScytheBlade1 | +54 spell damage on those for me |
| 21:08.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Soon it'll be +57 |
| 21:08.27 | ralfWORK | there's bracers in ZA that will upgrade them for me I think |
| 21:08.32 | ralfWORK | so I haven't enchanted them |
| 21:08.34 | ralfWORK | but I'm tempted |
| 21:08.59 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm an enchanter, so I get to enchant my rings as well |
| 21:09.04 | ralfWORK | ya me too ;) |
| 21:09.11 | ralfWORK | that fricking level 67 spirit shard ring |
| 21:09.17 | ralfWORK | which is still amazing |
| 21:09.21 | ralfWORK | and uhm... the halloween ring |
| 21:09.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Scryer Exalted ring, and the Hyjal ring here |
| 21:09.35 | ralfWORK | ahh, aldor here |
| 21:09.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Sucker :) |
| 21:09.42 | ralfWORK | hahahah |
| 21:09.47 | ralfWORK | well I was holy first! |
| 21:09.55 | ScytheBlade1 | 24 sta, 12 crit, 34 dmg |
| 21:09.59 | ScytheBlade1 | And a 12 dmg enchant on it |
| 21:10.10 | ralfWORK | wow yea |
| 21:10.12 | zenzelezz | I think I have too peculiar/specific tastes; my warrior still uses Styleen's Impeding Scarab |
| 21:10.13 | ralfWORK | that's nice |
| 21:10.16 | ScytheBlade1 | It is nice |
| 21:10.32 | ralfWORK | I'm just floored how good that spirit shard ring is |
| 21:10.46 | ralfWORK | (for a shadow priest) |
| 21:11.02 | ralfWORK | I don't recall where my next ring upgrade is |
| 21:11.12 | ralfWORK | but I seem to think something in 2.4 would be an up |
| 21:11.27 | ralfWORK | either rep or badges or heroic |
| 21:11.51 | ralfWORK | I'm so dying to get that new spell damage weap though |
| 21:12.00 | ScytheBlade1 | The S3 weapon is better |
| 21:12.06 | ralfWORK | not for me, iirc |
| 21:13.14 | ScytheBlade1 | 2.4: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34895 |
| 21:13.19 | ScytheBlade1 | S3: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33763 |
| 21:13.42 | ralfWORK | it's possible that I tricked myself into thinking it's better cause i hate PVP ;) |
| 21:13.50 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 21:14.30 | ralfWORK | hmm wait... ok |
| 21:14.35 | ralfWORK | ohhh right |
| 21:14.41 | ralfWORK | that requires personal rating |
| 21:14.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 21:14.47 | ScytheBlade1 | 1850 |
| 21:14.48 | ralfWORK | that's why I wrote it off |
| 21:15.08 | ralfWORK | cause I was just about to grind honor for the S2 dagger |
| 21:15.28 | ralfWORK | then the 2.4 notes started coming |
| 21:15.35 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 21:15.45 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm at 76 badges |
| 21:15.47 | ralfWORK | and I said "screw that, I got badges in the bank" |
| 21:16.30 | ralfWORK | it's gonna screw up my hit cap though |
| 21:16.56 | ScytheBlade1 | I *just* bought the HH exalted sword... need to get 7 more hit rating |
| 21:17.04 | ralfWORK | wewt |
| 21:17.40 | ScytheBlade1 | If we had 2.4 I'd just drop in a second +6dmg/+5hit heroic gem and call it good :/ |
| 21:17.46 | ralfWORK | I think I can swap my belt out for the badge belt |
| 21:18.13 | ralfWORK | and get a few extra spell damage and a chunk of +hit |
| 21:19.14 | ralfWORK | but 150 badges + 70 badges > 200 badges :( |
| 21:19.53 | ralfWORK | I'll actually toss soulfrost on that guy though |
| 21:20.31 | ralfWORK | I have the LC exalted mace now; same +dmg as that HH sword you just got |
| 21:22.22 | ScytheBlade1 | I only gem/enchant +dmg |
| 21:22.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Not +fire/+frost/etc |
| 21:22.42 | ralfWORK | ya, probabyl good for a mage |
| 21:22.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Multiple schools! |
| 21:22.52 | ralfWORK | I get a whopping 1 school of damage! |
| 21:22.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
| 21:22.59 | ScytheBlade1 | You win ezmode |
| 21:23.10 | ralfWORK | yea, I'll be honest |
| 21:23.17 | ralfWORK | shadowpriest gearing is ezmode |
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| 21:41.35 | Saint-N | so s2 crap is coming in with 2.4 right? |
| 21:41.50 | kd3 | it'll be a few weeks later. they still haven't formally announced s4 |
| 21:42.02 | Saint-N | ahh I should save up some then |
| 21:42.17 | Saint-N | since the s2 is actually FINALLY better than my present stuff |
| 21:42.35 | Saint-N | I can't believe that most of my non raiding aquired gear is better than most of the s1 stuff |
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| 21:43.04 | Saint-N | my total tbc raiding history is 2 gruuls(got nothing) and 2 kara runs(got some healing thingy from the last guy) |
| 21:43.23 | Saint-N | !c us echo isles rozalyn |
| 21:43.27 | WoWLuaircBot | Saint-N: Rozalyn, Level 70 Undead Priest (23/0/38). 7071 HP; 8130 Mana; 150 mana regen; 48 mp5; 95 spell crit; 35 spell hit; 643 +spell dmg/heal; 179 frost dmg (822); 241 shadow dmg (884); 4.90% dodge; 37 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1410 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2ycyeo ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2qc2rs ][ Updated: Fri Mar 7 16:53:15 2008 EST ]] |
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| 21:47.32 | ScytheBlade1 | !c us doomhammer sbo |
| 21:47.37 | WoWLuaircBot | ScytheBlade1: Sbo, Level 70 Gnome Mage (1/57/3). 3713 HP; 4376 Mana; 212 mana regen; 5.14% dodge; 10 arcane resist (+10);[[ TBR: 533 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2jmwgj ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/yruwso ][ Updated: Fri Mar 7 16:57:25 2008 EST ]] |
| 21:47.39 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ win |
| 21:50.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Self-buffed, up to a 29.05% fire crit chance |
| 21:50.24 | kd3 | bah. wtb updated PTR build |
| 21:50.44 | ScytheBlade1 | They pushing a new one? |
| 21:50.48 | kd3 | ya |
| 21:50.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Ping me when it's up, please |
| 21:51.03 | kd3 | will do |
| 21:51.12 | ScytheBlade1 | ty |
| 21:51.37 | Saint-N | !vs us echo isles rozalyn us doomhammer sbo |
| 21:51.38 | ralfWORK | 3.7k hp? |
| 21:51.38 | WoWLuaircBot | Saint-N: Rozalyn vs Sbo! A L70 priest and a L70 mage square off!; 23/0/38 vs 1/57/3; Rozalyn wins by 906 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 21:51.44 | Saint-N | suck it ;P |
| 21:51.46 | ralfWORK | DAMN |
| 21:52.00 | ralfWORK | oh that's right hahahahah you're naked on armory |
| 21:52.03 | Saint-N | 3713 would take 1.5 seconds ;P |
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| 22:03.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup ;) |
| 22:03.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Naken on the armory, so, eh |
| 22:03.52 | kd3 | ScytheBlade1, ping. go log in |
| 22:03.53 | ScytheBlade1 | *Naked |
| 22:03.55 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: ty |
| 22:04.18 | kd3 | whee, not a kitchen sink-filled patch this time... only 6MB |
| 22:04.44 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: jinx. Now watch, you'll log in and have to download another 40MB |
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| 22:06.20 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: any UI changes? |
| 22:06.39 | kd3 | just finished patching. will know in a few |
| 22:06.41 | kd3 | probably |
| 22:06.58 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 22:07.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Login servers haven't been restarted |
| 22:07.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Unable to validate game version |
| 22:08.27 | ScytheBlade1 | I really wish I knew what was up with the PTR patch notes on the website. |
| 22:09.20 | ScytheBlade1 | I also wish I knew wtf was up with my script/feed |
| 22:10.53 | NightHawkTheSane | this is... beautiful.. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-W5-ZN0l9io |
| 22:11.18 | kd3 | 2K line, 75KB diff this time |
| 22:12.07 | kd3 | ckknight, poke. check your email |
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| 22:13.14 | ScytheBlade1 | http://files.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/0.4.0.8016-8031.diff |
| 22:14.00 | deltron | another PTR build today? |
| 22:14.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 22:14.21 | ckknight | kd3: woo |
| 22:14.32 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 22:14.44 | ScytheBlade1 | my PTR diffs (well, kd3's) have found their way onto google |
| 22:15.00 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:15.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Err |
| 22:15.05 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:15.08 | ScytheBlade1 | There we are |
| 22:16.13 | kd3 | -- We're now allowing an unlimited number of MaxLines |
| 22:16.14 | kd3 | whee |
| 22:16.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Ha, awesome |
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| 22:18.56 | ScytheBlade1 | !vs us echo isles rozalyn us doomhammer sbo |
| 22:19.00 | WoWLuaircBot | ScytheBlade1: Rozalyn vs Sbo! A L70 priest and a L70 mage square off!; 23/0/38 vs 1/57/3; Rozalyn wins by 566 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 22:19.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Boo, that's even with gear. |
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| 22:22.01 | Industrial | !vs eu vashj meanass eu vashj xamth |
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| 22:23.02 | xlvii | !vs us thaurissan shari us frostmourne dispel |
| 22:23.10 | WoWLuaircBot | xlvii: Shari vs Dispel! A L70 rogue and a L70 priest square off!; 0/33/28 vs 14/0/47; Shari wins by 1077 TBRs! ***OWNED TO THE EXTREME!!*** |
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| 22:39.36 | kd3 | huzzah. think they finally fixed the resizing problem |
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| 22:51.14 | TecnoBrat | you guys will probably get a kick out of this |
| 22:51.28 | TecnoBrat | we have electronic keycard doors at my office |
| 22:51.37 | TecnoBrat | well the motherboard for the machine that controls them, died |
| 22:51.41 | TecnoBrat | so they ordered a new one |
| 22:51.42 | kd3 | eesh |
| 22:51.45 | TecnoBrat | but the new one was 3.0 |
| 22:51.48 | TecnoBrat | and the old one was 2.0 |
| 22:52.04 | TecnoBrat | and it isn't backwards compatible |
| 22:52.14 | TecnoBrat | so they just finished upgrading all of our doors to 3.0 |
| 22:54.07 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 22:54.20 | kd3 | lawl |
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| 23:08.25 | wereHamster | --> print(toboolean(1)) |
| 23:08.25 | batbot | wereHamster: @ [string "return print(toboolean(1))"]:1: attempt to call global 'toboolean' (a nil value) |
| 23:09.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Awesome win. 40% packet loss. |
| 23:10.30 | Kaso | function toboolean(arg) return ( arg and arg ) end |
| 23:10.41 | Josh_Borke | --> print(not not 1) |
| 23:10.41 | batbot | Josh_Borke: true |
| 23:11.00 | wereHamster | I was wondering why blizzard uses 'if flag then x = true else x = false' |
| 23:11.00 | Kaso | hmm, yeh not not would be quicker wouldnt it |
| 23:11.20 | wereHamster | where flag is a boolean |
| 23:11.30 | Josh_Borke | because blizzard doesn't write the best code |
| 23:11.56 | wereHamster | they don't accept patches for their code, do they? |
| 23:12.07 | Josh_Borke | they accept, they won't necessarily implement |
| 23:12.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Zoot stops by semi-frequently, or has recently anyways |
| 23:12.39 | wereHamster | .. and they changed an 'if foo then' to 'if foo == true then' |
| 23:13.58 | Shirik|Ecole | "if foo==true" should be faster actually |
| 23:14.14 | Shirik|Ecole | untested and unverified |
| 23:14.17 | Shirik|Ecole | but it makes sense to me |
| 23:14.44 | wereHamster | .. and changed 'if a ~= 0 then ... end' to 'if a == 0 then else ...' (yes, an empty block between then and else) |
| 23:14.51 | Shirik|Ecole | lol |
| 23:15.08 | wereHamster | quickly, submit to thedailywtf |
| 23:15.17 | Shirik|Ecole | thedailywtf? |
| 23:15.24 | wereHamster | you don't know that? |
| 23:15.26 | wereHamster | .com |
| 23:16.00 | NightHawkTheSane | http://abduzeedo.com/remarkable-uses-shadow-advertising |
| 23:20.40 | Shirik|Ecole | fun site |
| 23:32.29 | kd3 | oh. whee. want the TTR to come back up. the crying is going to be delicious |
| 23:32.34 | kd3 | everyone's characters got wiped |
| 23:36.53 | nevcairiel | meh cant download EU PTR patch .. torrent tracker says not authorized :P |
| 23:38.32 | Stanzilla | same here -.- |
| 23:38.52 | nevcairiel | Oh well, wanted to sleep anywaay |
| 23:39.26 | Lopeppeppy | Sleep is for the weak. The sane, well adjusted weak... but the weak nevertheless. |
| 23:39.49 | nevcairiel | I'm rather sane and weak then something else |
| 23:40.26 | Lopeppeppy | I envy your sanity and treasure your weaknesses. |
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| 23:40.48 | nevcairiel | for uvar, setting in next, uvarInfo do |
| 23:40.53 | nevcairiel | wth did blizz do there |
| 23:40.53 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 23:41.12 | nevcairiel | pairs no longer "in"? :) |
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| 23:43.36 | Guillotine | anybody diffed the new PTR patch yet? |
| 23:45.22 | kd3 | check your inbox |
| 23:45.33 | kd3 | should've sent it to you with the rest of the group |
| 23:45.33 | nevcairiel | or your spam box :) |
| 23:46.03 | nevcairiel | nothing interesting in, tho |
| 23:46.21 | nevcairiel | except that new code for setting the config globals |
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