IRC log for #wowi-lounge on 20080301

`00:00.18`	`Wobin_`	`Sure, but having it heal half is no fun. Having it heal, -then- apply a MS debuff on dispel/fade makes -sense- =)`
`00:01.26`	`Tem\|AFK`	`I like how the shaman one even applies to the totem`
`00:02.07`	`Tem\|AFK`	`which is kinda silly because the only class that can make use of the totem that doesn't already have an MS debuff of their own is ret pally`
`00:02.24`	`Wobin_`	`and mages`
`00:02.39`	`Wobin_`	`well, it's melee`
`00:02.41`	`Tem\|AFK`	`would you /really/ group with a shaman and swing your staff?`
`00:02.46`	`Wobin_`	`so they could conceiveable do so =P`
`00:02.57`	`Wobin_`	`well if it applys MS, I don't see why not =)`
`00:03.00`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Tem\|AFK: but fury warriors can now have an MS. :P`
`00:03.15`	`Tem\|AFK`	`because warriors needed a buff`
`00:03.17`	`Tem\|AFK`	`totally`
`00:03.26`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`hey I'm not saying I agree, just saying. :P`
`00:03.41`	`Tem\|AFK`	`with any luck they'll revert it`
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`00:05.04`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`I think the totem change is a bit much, so I hope so.`
`00:05.33`	`Cide`	`wait, revert what?`
`00:05.40`	`Wobin_`	`firetongue totem`
`00:05.50`	`Cide`	`oh`
`00:05.50`	`Wobin_`	`the weapon affect also applies the MS debuff`
`00:05.51`	`Tem\|AFK`	`Shamans got an MS debuff added to their fire weapon buff`
`00:05.55`	`Cide`	`I know about that`
`00:05.55`	`Wobin_`	`much like the weapon buff`
`00:05.57`	`Tem\|AFK`	`and it extends to the totem as well`
`00:06.04`	`Cide`	`I just didn't make the fury warrior - shaman connection`
`00:06.16`	`Wobin_`	`well it's more Shaman - any melee now =P`
`00:06.28`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`right`
`00:06.37`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`fury warriors and ret pallys being the two main beneficiaries, though`
`00:07.25`	`Guillotine`	`Wobin_: any melee except ferals :(`
`00:07.28`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`On an unrelated, note,, the level 50 mage quest rewards blow.`
`00:07.39`	`Wobin_`	`Guillotine: yeah`
`00:07.42`	`Wobin_`	`NightHawkTheSane: s'true`
`00:07.54`	`Wobin_`	`except maybe the firestone`
`00:08.04`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`even the firestone's kinda meh, though`
`00:08.10`	`Wobin_`	`hehe best of the lot =P`
`00:08.13`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`i took it, even being frost specced, because it was still the best :P`
`00:08.31`	`Wobin_`	`I found that the same for most class 50 rewards`
`00:08.38`	`Wobin_`	`hunter ones were pretty meh`
`00:08.43`	`Wobin_`	`priest one was alright`
`00:08.48`	`Wobin_`	`can't remember the rogue one`
`00:08.51`	`dylanm`	`The wand is a-okay.`
`00:08.51`	`Arrowmaster`	`hunters got one of the better ones`
`00:08.58`	`Wobin_`	`devilsaur eye?`
`00:09.04`	`Tem\|AFK`	`druid one was really nice`
`00:09.05`	`Wobin_`	`Maybe I just didn't trinket enough`
`00:09.09`	`Tem\|AFK`	`but I was too lazy to go get it`
`00:09.20`	`Arrowmaster`	`the trinket that make next pet attack crit`
`00:09.44`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`the shaman trinket is pretty nice`
`00:10.11`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`and all of the warrior rewards are pretty nice`
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`00:23.50`	`Nechckn`	`Yeah.. for Hunter's the Devilsaur Tooth is quite nice.`
`00:24.28`	`Nechckn`	`as I jump in 10 minutes late : -\`
`00:31.44`	`Nechckn`	`Oh here's one- other than the full outfit changers- what do you guys suggest for trinket swapping?`
`00:33.01`	`Syzgyn`	`whats wrong with using outfitter for it?`
`00:34.17`	`Syzgyn`	`I guess TrinketMenu would be the next choice`
`00:34.21`	`Nechckn`	`thought there were a few that did just the trinks`
`00:34.58`	`Syzgyn`	`it depends on what you're looking for`
`00:35.21`	`Syzgyn`	`just regular swapping/using without having to open the character panel, trinketmenu is great`
`00:35.34`	`Nechckn`	`Well, I have quite a few that I cart around and just want to have something especially for in combat to change out easily`
`00:36.02`	`Syzgyn`	`Can't change trinkets in combat.`
`00:37.28`	`Nechckn`	`right... not while actually "in" combat.. sorry.. should be a bit more descriptive`
`00:37.54`	`Mike-N-Go`	`I'm running some low levels through ZF`
`00:38.01`	`Nechckn`	`I use outfitter for changing like when riding, entering plaugue zone, etc`
`00:38.08`	`Mike-N-Go`	`Can they complete their quests in a raid group?`
`00:38.13`	`kd3`	`no`
`00:38.23`	`Syzgyn`	`you want something other than outfitter that does that?`
`00:38.24`	`kd3`	`zf quests are tagged dungeon, not raid`
`00:38.32`	`Nechckn`	`but that is whole outfits.. I jsut need somethigne to change 'em out and not mess with the rest`
`00:38.38`	`Syzgyn`	`outfitter can do that`
`00:38.46`	`kd3`	`so can itemrack`
`00:38.54`	`Syzgyn`	`thats what special occasions submenu is for`
`00:38.59`	`Syzgyn`	`or accessories`
`00:39.13`	`Nechckn`	`can you assign to actionbar slots via outfitter`
`00:39.21`	`Nechckn`	`maybe I'm missing something`
`00:39.23`	`Cide`	`they can do the groups in a raid of <= 5 players`
`00:39.26`	`Cide`	`err, quests`
`00:40.01`	`Syzgyn`	`you can use macros to activate outfitter outfits, if thats what you're asking`
`00:40.17`	`kd3`	`huh? they can? I've been ineligible for quest credit in raids of 2 people`
`00:40.29`	`Cide`	`kd3: when?`
`00:40.30`	`Syzgyn`	`Cide: negative`
`00:40.32`	`Nechckn`	`well, if you can do that, then I guess that would work too.. didn't know you could`
`00:40.33`	`kd3`	`always`
`00:40.39`	`Cide`	`if you can't, it's been changed recently`
`00:40.45`	`Cide`	`or I'm on crack`
`00:40.45`	`Syzgyn`	`been like that forever`
`00:40.54`	`Cide`	`...`
`00:41.01`	`Cide`	`you say that like you know for sure`
`00:41.03`	`Cide`	`but you don't`
`00:41.07`	`Cide`	`since you haven't tested it every patch`
`00:41.10`	`Syzgyn`	`unless the quest is specifically marked raid, you cant complete in a raid`
`00:41.24`	`Cide`	`Syzgyn: and by raid, you mean a raid group of >5 players`
`00:41.32`	`Syzgyn`	`no, by raid, I mean a raid`
`00:41.35`	`Nechckn`	`Syzgyn I'll check out doing it that way.. and the couple others you mentioned- thank you!`
`00:41.36`	`Cide`	`since you still get normal xp rewards in a raid of <= 5 players`
`00:41.39`	`Cide`	`I'm fairly certain`
`00:41.46`	`Syzgyn`	`90% sure you dont.`
`00:41.52`	`Cide`	`99% sure you do.`
`00:41.56`	`Syzgyn`	`shrug`
`00:41.57`	`Cide`	`100% sure you have before.`
`00:42.04`	`Syzgyn`	`if you're in a group of less than 5, why be in a raid anyway?`
`00:42.13`	`kd3`	`parties of less than 5 != raids of less than 5`
`00:42.15`	`Cide`	`Syzgyn: who cares?`
`00:42.21`	`Cide`	`kd3: .................`
`00:42.25`	`Cide`	`I want to slap someone in the nuts`
`00:42.28`	`Mike-N-Go`	`And is there a way to unconvert from a raid?`
`00:42.34`	`Cide`	`Mike-N-Go: .no.`
`00:42.38`	`Mike-N-Go`	`Or does one just regropu?`
`00:42.46`	`Cide`	`do you play the game?`
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`00:42.51`	`Syzgyn`	`YEs.`
`00:43.00`	`Cide`	`not you`
`00:43.07`	`Syzgyn`	`kd3 does too.`
`00:43.17`	`Cide`	`and you're both misunderstanding me completely`
`00:43.26`	`Cide`	`and I'm fairly sure I'm right`
`00:43.43`	`Syzgyn`	`I would go check it right now, but I'm doing arena`
`00:43.45`	`kd3`	`I was in a raid group with 1 other person and ineligible for quests as recently as yesterday`
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`00:43.57`	`Cide`	`which will be funny, given how "I'm right and you're not" attitude`
`00:44.06`	`Cide`	`kd3: might just be xp then. my bad`
`00:44.16`	`Cide`	`or it's not xp either, in which case it got changed`
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`00:44.35`	`Syzgyn`	`AFAIK, its been like that since I started playing`
`00:44.37`	`kd3`	`you can get xp, but it's on the order of 3 xp a kill since the raid penalty for xp is huge`
`00:44.43`	`Cide`	`WOW`
`00:44.44`	`Cide`	`LISTEN TO ME`
`00:44.55`	`Syzgyn`	`HI`
`00:44.57`	`Cide`	`I'm saying the xp penalty doesn't apply if your raid group consists of <= 5 players`
`00:45.18`	`Syzgyn`	`I'm saying prove it as of this patch.`
`00:45.26`	`Cide`	`Syzgyn: who are you, anyway?`
`00:45.31`	`Syzgyn`	`I'm me`
`00:45.33`	`kd3`	`I have no data for xp. I've been 70 for well over a year now`
`00:45.38`	`Esamynn\|Work`	`Shadowed: ping`
`00:45.38`	`Cide`	`real answer`
`00:45.44`	`Syzgyn`	`uh`
`00:45.51`	`Syzgyn`	`I dunno what kind of answer you want then`
`00:46.08`	`Cide`	`who are you? since when have you even been in this channel, let alone dealt with wow addons?`
`00:46.21`	`Syzgyn`	`recently and a little less recently`
`00:46.25`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Syzgyn: he wants some sort of boastful credentials that make you seem important, because your opninion only counts if you're famous around here`
`00:46.32`	`Syzgyn`	`apparently`
`00:46.37`	`Cide`	`what NightHawkTheSane said`
`00:46.53`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`except i imagine cide meant it without the dripping sarcasm and cynicism`
`00:46.57`	`Syzgyn`	`brb arena`
`00:47.26`	`Cide`	`NightHawkTheSane: without? oh, no. the more sarcasm and cynicism the better`
`00:47.30`	`Cide`	`now`
`00:47.44`	`Cide`	`do you understand what I'm saying or do I have to further spell it out for you, letter by letter?`
`00:47.52`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`ooh, please, spell it out`
`00:47.59`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`i enjoy watching people behave like jerks. :)`
`00:48.00`	`Cide`	`not asking you`
`00:48.03`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`awwww`
`00:49.36`	`Syzgyn`	`hm?`
`00:50.04`	`Syzgyn`	`I understand that you're saying you think its one way, and most everyone else thinks its the other way`
`00:50.13`	`Syzgyn`	`I dont see what the problem with asking for proof is.`
`00:50.22`	`Cide`	`and by most everyone you mean you and kd3`
`00:50.27`	`Cide`	`nice use of statistics there`
`00:50.47`	`Syzgyn`	`well I'm willing to bet if other people cared enough to respond, they'd agree with me and kd3`
`00:50.59`	`Tem\|AFK`	`Cide, you haven't been able to get quest credit for non-raid quests when in a raid of ANY size since they patched it back in like 1.7`
`00:51.05`	`kd3`	`alright, channel at large: can non-raid quests be completed in raid groups of <=5 players?`
`00:51.07`	`Syzgyn`	`all you have to do is prove us wrong then you can gloat all you want.`
`00:51.14`	`Cide`	`Tem\|AFK: I'm willing to admit that I'm wrong about the quest part`
`00:51.18`	`Tem\|AFK`	`raid size (<=5, >5) doesn't matter`
`00:51.18`	`Cide`	`but I still think the xp part is in`
`00:51.22`	`Cide`	`but again, I may be wrong`
`00:51.26`	`Tem\|AFK`	`now for exp, I'm not sure`
`00:51.30`	`Cide`	`but I don't think I am`
`00:51.42`	`Tem\|AFK`	`I'm willing to bet that raid size again, doesn't matter`
`00:51.58`	`Syzgyn`	`you're acting like you're right without even considering our arguments, and its making you look like a jackass`
`00:52.03`	`Tem\|AFK`	`(beyond the part where xp depends on group size)`
`00:52.06`	`Cide`	`Syzgyn: there is no argument to be made`
`00:52.11`	`Syzgyn`	`....`
`00:52.13`	`Cide`	`or rather, you haven't made any argument`
`00:52.19`	`Cide`	`besides "lots and lots of people think it is this way!"`
`00:52.26`	`Syzgyn`	`ok, fine`
`00:52.30`	`Cide`	`which doesn't mean shit`
`00:52.38`	`Syzgyn`	`my argument is that you get an xp nerf regardless of raid size`
`00:52.38`	`Tem\|AFK`	`you don't need an argument for imperical fact imo`
`00:52.40`	`Syzgyn`	`happy?`
`00:52.51`	`Cide`	`no`
`00:52.55`	`Cide`	`that's your standpoint`
`00:53.04`	`Syzgyn`	`and I'm arguing that standpoint`
`00:53.06`	`Cide`	`an argument would be why you consider your standpoint truth`
`00:53.08`	`Syzgyn`	`thus its my argument`
`00:53.14`	`Cide`	`... no`
`00:53.17`	`Syzgyn`	`ok`
`00:53.29`	`Syzgyn`	`I consider it true because in my experince its always been like that`
`00:53.40`	`Syzgyn`	`and I've seen no evidence to support otherwise`
`00:53.40`	`Cide`	`that's like saying "why do you prefer blue over red?" "becaue blue is my favorite color."`
`00:53.41`	`Shadowed`	`Esine: pong`
`00:53.45`	`Shadowed`	`er`
`00:53.46`	`Shadowed`	`Esamynn\|Work pong`
`00:54.03`	`Cide`	`Syzgyn: anecdotal evidence doesn't work either`
`00:54.11`	`Syzgyn`	`again`
`00:54.17`	`Cide`	`especially when I could argue the exact same thing, only opposite standpoint`
`00:54.18`	`Syzgyn`	`show me some evidence to prove me wrong`
`00:54.27`	`Shadowed`	`if anything broke, it's Tem\|AFKs fault`
`00:54.31`	`Esamynn\|Work`	`Shadowed: can I not pass my own zip file to the wowi updater?`
`00:54.38`	`Shadowed`	`uh you should be able to`
`00:54.43`	`Cide`	`Syzgyn: if anything, maybe you show me some evidence that you're right?`
`00:54.48`	`Shadowed`	`when did you last update`
`00:54.58`	`Shadowed`	`It should be -zip <dir>`
`00:54.59`	`Syzgyn`	`gimme a few min to do another arena, then sure`
`00:55.22`	`Esamynn\|Work`	`Shadowed: your instructions don't include that option`
`00:55.34`	`Shadowed`	`the -help one does :p`
`00:55.34`	`Esamynn\|Work`	`-zip-ver Uploads the zip with the file name <folder>-<version>.zip`
`00:55.50`	`Esamynn\|Work`	`~fail Shadowed`
`00:55.51`	`purl`	`Shadowed: Fail.`
`00:55.58`	`Shadowed`	`nope you`
`00:56.03`	`Shadowed`	`-zip <dir> Zipped file to upload, cannot use -zip-ver or -log with this.`
`00:56.20`	`Esamynn\|Work`	`show me where it says that on your description page!`
`00:56.31`	`Shadowed`	`not my fault you're a lazy bastard and didn't check -help!`
`00:56.41`	`Esamynn\|Work`	`I haven't even DOWNLOADED IT YET!`
`00:56.42`	`Shadowed`	`it even says`
`00:56.44`	`Shadowed`	`All you need is Java 1.5 (also known as Java 5.0) or higher, and a WoWInterface account. Everything is done through a command line, the arguments can be pulled up by passing -h or -help, heres the ones that are available currently.`
`00:56.50`	`Shadowed`	`not my fault you're a lazy b astard and didn't download it!`
`00:57.04`	`Esamynn\|Work`	`why would I download it if it won't do what I want? :P`
`00:57.17`	`Cairenn`	`Shadowed: there is also some questions about how to get the updater to put the change log on the change log tab, instead of on the file description page`
`00:57.21`	`Shadowed`	`to see it didn't do what you want, and complain for it? :D`
`00:57.34`	`Esamynn\|Work`	`~lart Shadowed`
`00:57.34`	`purl`	`farts in Shadowed's general direction`
`00:57.39`	`Esamynn\|Work`	`~botsnack`
`00:57.39`	`purl`	`Esamynn\|Work: :)`
`00:57.43`	`Shadowed`	`Cairenn: They have to update, as of r42 it puts it into the changelog page`
`00:57.56`	`Cairenn`	`danke`
`00:58.07`	`Esamynn\|Work`	`can I specify a file with my changelog?`
`00:58.08`	`Shadowed`	`You have to remove the changelog that was added to the description manually if you uploaded already with that option, but it'll always go to the change log tab`
`00:58.15`	`Shadowed`	`no it just pulls from an svn path`
`00:58.21`	`Shadowed`	`I've been meaning to redo it, but java GUI is evil`
`00:58.41`	`Esamynn\|Work`	`why are you dealing with Java GUI?`
`00:58.53`	`Shadowed`	`because I'd redo it and give it a GUI :p`
`00:58.59`	`Esamynn\|Work`	`why?`
`00:59.00`	`Esamynn\|Work`	`:P`
`00:59.03`	`Shadowed`	`because`
`00:59.06`	`Shadowed`	`I'll probably get around to redoing it after 2.4`
`00:59.15`	`Esamynn\|Work`	`!!!!`
`00:59.28`	`Esamynn\|Work`	`I want to use this in my build script now! :P`
`00:59.38`	`Tem\|AFK`	`"Because I said so" are the most powerful words in the english language`
`00:59.41`	`Shadowed`	`you should be able to without much issue`
`00:59.47`	`Tem\|AFK`	`(when applied to a 7 year old)`
`00:59.56`	`Shadowed`	`shut up you`
`00:59.58`	`Syzgyn`	`lol`
`01:00.00`	`Esamynn\|Work`	`haha`
`01:00.19`	`Shadowed`	`I've got a few things planned for once I get around to redoing it, git support is one of those`
`01:00.31`	`Shadowed`	`unless that turns out to be a pain in the ass`
`01:00.57`	`Esamynn\|Work`	`does adding the ability to specify the changelog file a file really require redoing the whole thing???`
`01:01.10`	`Esamynn\|Work`	`s/file a/from a/`
`01:01.18`	`Shadowed`	`nope not at all`
`01:01.27`	`Shadowed`	`But the code is rather hackish right now, so I just want to clean it up`
`01:01.43`	`Esamynn\|Work`	`~fail Shadowed`
`01:01.44`	`purl`	`Shadowed: Fail.`
`01:01.59`	`Tem\|AFK`	`yay time to go home`
`01:02.43`	`Shadowed`	`speaking of which`
`01:02.49`	`Shadowed`	`I should probably release the version that fixes that MD5 issue`
`01:02.56`	`Shadowed`	`stupid mac users`
`01:03.43`	`Esamynn\|Work`	`WTB changelog from a file while you're at it`
`01:03.59`	`Esamynn\|Work`	`also updates to the description page`
`01:04.01`	`Cairenn`	`brb, updating pidgin`
`01:04.55`	`Shadowed`	`I already updated it!`
`01:05.17`	`Syzgyn`	`well, my mistake`
`01:05.18`	`Esamynn\|Work`	`thank you :)`
`01:05.23`	`Syzgyn`	`XP was the same`
`01:05.51`	`Syzgyn`	`color me suprised`
`01:06.00`	`Cide`	`oh look.`
`01:06.10`	`Cide`	`I could act like a total ass now`
`01:06.12`	`Cide`	`and I will`
`01:06.13`	`Syzgyn`	`you could`
`01:06.23`	`Syzgyn`	`was counting on it.`
`01:06.32`	`Cide`	`actually I'm still debating how to react`
`01:06.32`	`Esamynn\|Work`	`Shadowed: will the updater ask for my password if I don't give it on the command line?`
`01:06.37`	`Shadowed`	`yes`
`01:06.41`	`Esamynn\|Work`	`username too?`
`01:06.46`	`Shadowed`	`yup`
`01:06.51`	`Shadowed`	`same with -ftitle`
`01:07.04`	`Cide`	`but in the end, I'm a fairly nice guy if you get to know me (or at least so I think)`
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`01:07.11`	`Esamynn\|Work`	`nah, I'll just use -fid`
`01:07.14`	`Cide`	`but really, I tend to know everything`
`01:07.17`	`Cide`	`so color me unsurprised`
`01:07.22`	`Shadowed`	`too lazy to lookup mod ID`
`01:07.29`	`Esamynn\|Work`	`heh`
`01:07.45`	`Esamynn\|Work`	`just give me changelog from a file, and I'll be a happy author =D`
`01:07.47`	`Syzgyn`	`I was assuming that since it happens in raids > 5, it would be for any raid`
`01:07.58`	`Syzgyn`	`since most people dont form raids for < 5 people`
`01:08.17`	`Esamynn\|Work`	`Syzgyn: that's crazy talk! :P`
`01:08.45`	`Cide`	`yep, you assumed`
`01:08.48`	`Cide`	`I had experience`
`01:09.13`	`Syzgyn`	`but again, you cant complete quests in a raid, so whats the point?`
`01:10.11`	`Cide`	`I was wrong on that point, but that was just because I confused the two`
`01:10.14`	`Cide`	`I knew one of them remained the same`
`01:10.22`	`Cairen1`	`Shadowed: approved, ready for download`
`01:10.35`	`Shadowed`	`that took 4 minutes`
`01:10.37`	`Shadowed`	`you're falling behind!`
`01:10.43`	`Shadowed`	`robot needs a tuneup`
`01:10.44`	`Cairenn`	`sowwy :(`
`01:10.50`	`Shadowed`	`~bonk Cairenn`
`01:10.51`	`purl`	`ACTION bonks Cairenn over the head`
`01:10.52`	`Syzgyn`	`fair enough`
`01:10.54`	`Cairenn`	`;)`
`01:10.57`	`Josh_Borke`	`i'll tune you up Cairenn ;-)`
`01:11.03`	`Cairenn`	`lol`
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`01:12.04`	`Cide`	`in any case`
`01:12.20`	`Cide`	`you at least made me doubt, so good job`
`01:15.43`	`Syzgyn`	`Is the PTR up right now?`
`01:15.53`	`kd3`	`no. http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4976340726&sid=1`
`01:18.24`	`Esamynn\|Work`	`Shadowed: sorry to be a pain, but I'd even be satisfied if you pointed me at where I would need to make the change myself :)`
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`01:19.10`	`Shadowed`	`Go to checkCommand and add cmd.equals("changelog") to the if-statement of doom`
`01:19.31`	`Shadowed`	`then go to line #626 and add below taht`
`01:19.44`	`Shadowed`	`else if( cmdArgs.containsKey("changelog") ) {`
`01:20.41`	`Esamynn\|Work`	`you want to use -changelog not -logfile ?`
`01:21.03`	`Esamynn\|Work`	`wait, nm, i'll look at code`
`01:21.10`	`Shadowed`	`add http://shadowed.pastey.net/83180 in taht else if statement`
`01:21.12`	`Shadowed`	`that even`
`01:21.26`	`Shadowed`	`I'm redoing the cmd stuff most likely :p`
`01:22.00`	`Esamynn\|Work`	`k`
`01:23.42`	`Esamynn\|Work`	`okie dokie`
`01:24.07`	`Esamynn\|Work`	`probably should`
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`01:27.18`	`\|pez\|`	`blergh, I really should have picked up the meds I got for my period pains. -__0`
`01:28.17`	`wereHamster`	`didn't we talk earlier about responsive behaviour and taking meds in time?`
`01:28.29`	`Esamynn\|Work`	`\|pez\|: that does sound like it would have been wise`
`01:29.11`	`\|pez\|`	`wereHamster: instapains in utterus is kinda hard to "take meds in time"`
`01:29.48`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`http://lonelymachines.org/mall-ninjas/`
`01:30.03`	`\|pez\|`	`There's no pain, and then suddenly it's there.`
`01:30.20`	`\|pez\|`	`And then, I have no meds that work well with this kind of pain.`
`01:31.10`	`Nechckn`	`\|pez\| sounds like you need to find a good "urban pharmacist" ;-)`
`01:31.12`	`Cairenn`	`my daughter has to take prescription meds for hers, that's how bad they are`
`01:31.33`	`Cairenn`	`she can't use the over the counter stuff like midol or whatever`
`01:31.34`	`Cide`	`my gf had some really bad ones before, too`
`01:32.09`	`\|pez\|`	`I'll stop by the pharmacy tomorrow... and see if the boyfrieds 1g paracetomol will help through the night.`
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`01:52.49`	`\|pez\|`	`first thing tomorrow, I am so getting pads instead of tampons 0.o`
`01:54.00`	`Cairenn`	`lol, careful \|pez\| ... they're somewhat getting used to the fact that there are some, like, real life gurls in the channel, but they still tend to freak out when we talk about female issues ^_-`
`01:54.27`	`dylanm`	`That wasn't so bad.`
`01:54.43`	`\|pez\|`	`Cairenn: true I guess!`
`01:55.06`	`Tuller`	`i've heard worse :P`
`01:55.09`	`\|pez\|`	`But I still do not like tampons, they seem to make the pains worse on occasion. Without me really being able to prove it.`
`01:55.49`	`Thrae\|Work`	`I tried using a tampon once. Boy was that uncomfortable. How do women stand them?`
`01:55.58`	`sacarasc`	`hehe`
`01:56.04`	`Cairenn`	`rofl`
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`01:56.59`	`\|pez\|`	`I'll stop oversharing my female issues with you all now.`
`01:57.16`	`Tuller`	`but but but, sharing is _caring_!`
`01:57.46`	`\|pez\|`	`Do you really want to know about my bleeding utterus? >__> I think not.`
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`01:58.03`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`I do!`
`01:58.10`	`sacarasc`	`we're on irc, if we had other things to talk about we wouldn't be here`
`01:58.17`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`... but only because i'm hoping to get you started talking about it while I leave in a few minutes.`
`01:58.22`	`Tuller`	`I would wager that in some corner of the internet, there are people that would pay good money to hear such conversations`
`01:58.38`	`Tuller`	`NightHawkTheSane resides there`
`01:58.52`	`\|pez\|`	`Well, to make a long story very short.`
`01:58.54`	`Cairenn`	`of that I have absolutely no doubt (that there's people that'd pay to hear it)`
`01:58.56`	`\|pez\|`	`it bleeds, and it hurts.`
`01:59.10`	`sacarasc`	`sucks, you should have been born male`
`01:59.13`	`\|pez\|`	`end of story.`
`01:59.17`	`\|pez\|`	`sacarasc: I should!`
`01:59.42`	`\|pez\|`	`I'd totally love havng a penis instead of my monthly week of doom.`
`02:00.02`	`MentalPower`	`Thrae\|Work: dammit, don't you know I have an overactive imagination?!?!`
`02:00.33`	`sacarasc`	`are you trying to figure out which hole he used?`
`02:00.47`	`MentalPower`	`stop!!!`
`02:01.08`	`Thrae\|Work`	`\|pez\|: Would you rather have it in addition, or in substitution?`
`02:01.15`	`Thrae\|Work`	`MentalPower: I was counting on it.`
`02:01.24`	`MentalPower`	`:P`
`02:01.42`	`Cairenn`	`claymation! claymation!`
`02:01.44`	`Cairenn`	`damnit, too late`
`02:01.58`	`\|pez\|`	`Thrae\|Work: I think substitution.`
`02:02.23`	`MentalPower`	`\|pez\|: be careful what you wish for`
`02:03.07`	`MentalPower`	`you don't have to be careful what you think when you see a hot <insertGenderHere> in front of you because of physical manifestations`
`02:05.07`	`MentalPower`	`... and I killed the channel ...`
`02:05.25`	`\|pez\|`	`waha`
`02:05.30`	`Tuller`	`muffins`
`02:05.38`	`Josh_Borke`	`you people are weird`
`02:05.39`	`\|pez\|`	`I could look at a hot guy and feel my new body part just awaken.`
`02:07.47`	`Cide`	`nah`
`02:07.54`	`Cide`	`you have to go a step further and imagine the hot guy naked`
`02:08.06`	`\|pez\|`	`Aaah`
`02:08.11`	`Cide`	`or some such`
`02:08.21`	`Cide`	`but it's fairly on-demand`
`02:08.34`	`Wobin_`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`02:08.50`	`\|pez\|`	`Wobin_: I switched my bleeding utterus for a penis >__>`
`02:09.06`	`Wobin_`	`oh`
`02:09.29`	`Wobin_`	`Trade in new for old?`
`02:09.55`	`Corrodias`	`i must admit, i'm pretty sure i'd be disappointed as a woman`
`02:09.58`	`Wobin_`	`Well, now you have a penis, I have all sorts of spam I can direct you to.`
`02:10.05`	`Wobin_`	`Corrodias: You'd have your own boobies.`
`02:10.09`	`Wobin_`	`and not just manboobs`
`02:10.21`	`Wobin_`	`They might be all perky and stuff`
`02:10.31`	`Dekster`	`This reminds me of the South Park episode, where Mr. Garrison told the kids he doesn't trust anything that bleeds for five days and doesn't die.`
`02:10.33`	`Corrodias`	`yeah, but men don't have hormonal imbalance or monthly cycles. and they get a penis.`
`02:10.34`	`Wobin_`	`(and if your manboobs are perky, you -might- have a problem)`
`02:10.58`	`Corrodias`	`well, to be honest, they're pretty close`
`02:11.06`	`MentalPower`	`who said we don't have monthly cycles?`
`02:11.18`	`Corrodias`	`i did`
`02:11.25`	`MentalPower`	`they may be psychological-only, but they're there`
`02:11.29`	`\|pez\|`	`atleast you don't BLEED from your privateparts once a month.`
`02:11.35`	`MentalPower`	`granted`
`02:11.44`	`Tuller`	`depends on how hard they're hit`
`02:12.12`	`Thrae\|Work`	`\|pez\|: It'd be easier for me to turn into a woman then for you to turn into a man.`
`02:12.38`	`\|pez\|`	`Thrae\|Work: ... ooh? :D`
`02:12.52`	`Thrae\|Work`	`As plastic surgeons always say, "It's easier to poke a hole then to stake a pole."`
`02:12.57`	`Wobin_`	`It's a case of excavation as opposed to...`
`02:13.02`	`Wobin_`	`yeah`
`02:13.12`	`batrick`	`haha`
`02:13.17`	`\|pez\|`	`Right XD`
`02:13.25`	`Cairenn`	`rofl`
`02:13.36`	`\|pez\|`	`all kinds of random conversations in here lately.`
`02:13.47`	`Thrae\|Work`	`Men already have a lot of unnecessary parts that are left over from when we were more female then male, when sex was being determined, in the womb.`
`02:14.16`	`\|pez\|`	`-_- http://static.nettby.no/users/o/b/e/oberon77/files/dodge-ram-logo.jpg`
`02:14.18`	`Thrae\|Work`	`Like breasts. We don't need breasts. Men can actually lactate, but of course not real breast milk.`
`02:14.52`	`Wobin`	`Just a somewhat disturbing milky discharge =P`
`02:15.27`	`\|pez\|`	`you procude liquidy stuff otherplaces.`
`02:15.38`	`\|pez\|`	`prodce`
`02:15.47`	`\|pez\|`	`I now hoe to spell, I swear.`
`02:15.51`	`\|pez\|`	`produce*`
`02:16.17`	`\|pez\|`	`Also, I've been up for 24 hours!`
`02:19.17`	`Tuller`	`I've been up for...15?`
`02:20.24`	`Thrae\|Work`	`\|pez\|: Actually, male lactation (yes, out of the breasts) is a very rare occurance that we don't fully understand.`
`02:21.02`	`\|pez\|`	`I was thinkint totally different bodyparts.. :o`
`02:21.09`	`Thrae\|Work`	`People usually do.`
`02:21.30`	`Tuller`	`perhaps they have super powers`
`02:21.45`	`Wobin`	`You could probably sell it`
`02:21.50`	`Wobin`	`like they do Badger milk`
`02:22.47`	`Thrae\|Work`	`There's also Symbiotic Pregnancy Syndrome, where men with their pregnant wives go through very simiiliar bodily and hormonal changes as their wife. They even feel like they're giving birth, and their stomachs expand for a reason science still does not understand.`
`02:23.00`	`Thrae\|Work`	`I should say "partner", not "wife" there.`
`02:23.32`	`Thrae\|Work`	`And Sympathetic, not Symbiotic.`
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`02:25.48`	`Thrae\|Work`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Couvade (the medical term for it)`
`02:25.51`	`Tuller`	`telepathic baby wants more room`
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`02:31.33`	`\|Jelly\|`	`!c us burning legion bakemono`
`02:31.36`	`WoWLuaircBot`	`\|Jelly\|: Bakemono, Level 70 Undead Priest (41/20/0). 11211 HP; 10643 Mana; 214 mana regen; 99 mp5; 3675 Armour; 555 +spell dmg; 1515 +heal; 5.14% dodge; 402 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 966 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2ze6jc ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3dntob ][ Updated: Fri Feb 29 21:41:13 2008 EST ]]`
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`02:36.27`	`\|Jelly\|`	`!vs us burning legion jelly us drenden kimina`
`02:36.32`	`WoWLuaircBot`	`\|Jelly\|: Jelly vs Kimina! Two 70 priests square off!; 43/18/0 vs 20/41/0; Kimina wins by 552 TBRs! *OWNED!*`
`02:36.39`	`\|Jelly\|`	`...`
`02:36.45`	`Syzgyn`	`does that work cross-class?`
`02:36.58`	`\|Jelly\|`	`It apparently doesn't work at all cause I'd beat Shitrik's holy ass.`
`02:37.04`	`Syzgyn`	`hahaha`
`02:37.18`	`\|Jelly\|`	`!co us burning legion jelly us drenden kimina`
`02:37.30`	`Syzgyn`	`!vs us burning legion jelly us kel'thuzad syzgyn`
`02:37.48`	`\|Jelly\|`	`w!vs us burning legion jelly us burning legion eridrielle`
`02:37.52`	`\|Jelly\|`	`weak`
`02:37.59`	`\|Jelly\|`	`oh. i logged off in my holy gear.`
`02:38.00`	`\|Jelly\|`	`but still.`
`02:38.07`	`\|Jelly\|`	`!vs us burning legion jelly us burning legion eridrielle`
`02:38.28`	`Syzgyn`	`we broked it`
`02:39.08`	`\|Jelly\|`	`lol`
`02:39.15`	`\|Jelly\|`	`doesn't sprurise me`
`02:39.25`	`Syzgyn`	`!vs us burning legion jelly us kel'thuzad syzgyn`
`02:39.28`	`WoWLuaircBot`	`Syzgyn: Jelly vs Syzgyn! A L70 priest and a L70 warrior square off!; 43/18/0 vs 33/28/0; Syzgyn wins by 752 TBRs! *OWNED!*`
`02:39.34`	`Syzgyn`	`rawr!`
`02:39.54`	`Syzgyn`	`heh, I'm arms right now`
`02:39.56`	`\|Jelly\|`	`mace spec?`
`02:40.19`	`\|Jelly\|`	`that's the only spec i really seemt o have issues with atm`
`02:40.20`	`MentalPower`	`YES!`
`02:40.21`	`\|Jelly\|`	`i dunno`
`02:40.25`	`MentalPower`	`DreamScape is mine!`
`02:40.37`	`MentalPower`	`err... DreamSpark!`
`02:40.49`	`Syzgyn`	`nah, sword`
`02:40.53`	`Syzgyn`	`Zul'jins sword`
`02:41.40`	`Syzgyn`	`normally I'm fury though`
`02:42.07`	`\|Jelly\|`	`normally i'm holy`
`02:42.18`	`Syzgyn`	`hehe`
`02:45.47`	`Syzgyn`	`!vs us kel'thuzad syzgyn us burning legion eridrielle`
`02:46.09`	`\|Jelly\|`	`Careful now. That's my girl!`
`02:46.14`	`\|Jelly\|`	`ish`
`02:46.26`	`Syzgyn`	`didnt work :\`
`02:46.38`	`Syzgyn`	`!vs us kel'thuzad syzgyn us burning legion eridrielle`
`02:46.52`	`WoWLuaircBot`	`Syzgyn: Syzgyn vs Eridrielle! A L70 warrior and a L70 druid square off!; 33/28/0 vs 55/0/6; Syzgyn wins by 73 TBRs!`
`02:46.52`	`Syzgyn`	`fail`
`02:46.54`	`Syzgyn`	`ah`
`02:46.58`	`Syzgyn`	`close :)`
`02:47.06`	`\|Jelly\|`	`Funny cause ... I beat her.`
`02:47.15`	`Syzgyn`	`rock paper scissors?`
`02:48.54`	`Thrae\|Work`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV30Vd_CYqk <-- these parents are going to hell`
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`02:51.59`	`Syzgyn`	`Thrae: omfg`
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`02:53.02`	`Guillotine`	`that is so mean`
`02:53.17`	`Guillotine`	`that kids going to become a serial killer because of that`
`02:55.06`	`Duman`	`jeez the forums are crawling`
`02:55.38`	`Guillotine`	`so anybody done any diffs yet on the new PTR patch?`
`02:56.00`	`kd3`	`one sec`
`02:56.26`	`Syzgyn`	`another new one :o`
`02:56.38`	`kd3`	`jesus! 22.7MB`
`02:56.59`	`Duman`	`damn, really?`
`02:58.02`	`Duman`	`download is fast at least`
`02:58.14`	`Duman`	`I wonder if some of this patch is graphics or something`
`02:58.23`	`kd3`	`I'm going to assume inn music`
`02:58.26`	`Duman`	`ahh`
`02:58.32`	`kd3`	`that's why the first patch was ~35MB`
`02:58.35`	`Guillotine`	`or small interface changes`
`02:58.36`	`Duman`	`did they update the notes?`
`02:58.40`	`Duman`	`(hah)`
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`03:03.02`	`Syzgyn`	`newb question: how do you do a diff on it?`
`03:03.25`	`kd3`	`diff -u <oldpatch>.txt <newpatch.txt> > patchdiff.txt`
`03:04.05`	`Syzgyn`	`that linux I assume? or windows too`
`03:04.18`	`Duman`	`cygwin is your friend`
`03:04.57`	`Syzgyn`	`interesting`
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`03:05.42`	`Thrae\|Work`	`Syzgyn: http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/`
`03:06.46`	`Syzgyn`	`that different from cygwin? better?`
`03:08.42`	`Duman`	`I'd imagine jsut "different"`
`03:08.48`	`Duman`	`I'm not familiar w/ it, tho`
`03:08.53`	`Syzgyn`	`ah`
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`03:22.57`	`Syzgyn`	`its saying command not found for diff :V`
`03:25.51`	`Guillotine`	`Interesting, anybody seen anything about B:Lua? http://blua.sourceforge.net/`
`03:26.06`	`Guillotine`	`oh, wow, its old`
`03:26.09`	`kd3`	`sending the diffs out for this change. anyone want a copy?`
`03:26.22`	`Guillotine`	`me :)`
`03:26.24`	`Syzgyn`	`sure`
`03:26.33`	`Guillotine`	`can you just pastey it, or is it big?`
`03:26.35`	`kd3`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:26.38`	`kd3`	`s/url/email/`
`03:26.52`	`kd3`	`I've been having bad luck with pastey lately`
`03:27.10`	`kd3`	`the diff's 261k`
`03:27.37`	`Thrae\|Work`	`Syzgyn: Install the diff package above, then Right-Click Computer -> Properties -> Advanced System Properties (Vista) -> Advanced -> Environment Variables, then add the path to your PATH variable`
`03:28.02`	`Thrae\|Work`	`Syzgyn: If the end of PATH doesn't have a semi-colon, put one then put in C:\Program Files\GnuWin32\bin`
`03:28.05`	`Syzgyn`	`aha`
`03:28.15`	`kd3`	`ckknight_, ScytheBlade1: ping`
`03:28.24`	`ckknight_`	`pobf`
`03:28.24`	`Thrae\|Work`	`Or for 64-bit systems, C:\Program Files (x86)\GnuWin32\bin`
`03:28.24`	`kd3`	`newest diff in your inboxes`
`03:28.25`	`ckknight_`	`pong*`
`03:28.28`	`ckknight_`	`yays`
`03:28.31`	`ckknight_`	`you = pimp`
`03:28.58`	`ckknight_`	`lim(x -> pimp+) x = you`
`03:29.00`	`Guillotine`	`WinMerge is an easy to use one too`
`03:29.25`	`kd3`	`patch notes shipped with the client got updated to match the website's copy`
`03:31.33`	`Guillotine`	`all the patch did was update the notes`
`03:31.34`	`Guillotine`	`seriously`
`03:32.17`	`kd3`	`huh? there's ~4500 files in the patch.exe`
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`03:32.33`	`Guillotine`	`I was joking :P`
`03:32.55`	`kd3`	`oh sweet. they added the creature sound emotes`
`03:33.05`	`Guillotine`	`huh?`
`03:33.13`	`Guillotine`	`you mean for /roar?`
`03:33.37`	`kd3`	`er, text events. kael's "that sucked! oh well, let's try again" and the like`
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`03:33.46`	`Guillotine`	`oh`
`03:34.00`	`Guillotine`	`I'm actually suprised they haven't implemented sounds for /roar`
`03:34.06`	`Guillotine`	`since they're in the data`
`03:34.18`	`Guillotine`	`its just not linked to the emote`
`03:34.24`	`Guillotine`	`wb Cairenn :)`
`03:34.28`	`Cairenn`	`thanks`
`03:37.02`	`kd3`	`oh wow. talk about spoilers`
`03:39.15`	`Guillotine`	`sigh someone on my server figured out you can link items in different languages`
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`03:43.15`	`kd3`	`heh. a rather important female belf sounds like a brit`
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`03:45.18`	`*** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net \| 2.3.x ToC: 20300 \| WoW programming book http://tinyurl.com/2gdel9 \| "Cynically speaking, one could say that it is true to life to be cynical about it." - Paul Tillich`
`03:53.14`	`Recluse`	`is there a function that returns your current resilience rating?`
`03:53.59`	`Guillotine`	`yup`
`03:54.51`	`Recluse`	`lol`
`03:55.01`	`Guillotine`	`(I don't know what it is offhand, but I know it exists)`
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`03:55.12`	`kd3`	`any euros able to log in to the PTR right now?`
`03:56.30`	`kd3`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4976371174&sid=1&pageNo=7#137`
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`04:03.45`	`Sixen`	`Mmm`
`04:03.48`	`Sixen`	`I'm reading it`
`04:03.50`	`Sixen`	`and updating`
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`04:06.47`	`dylanm`	`!api GetCombatRating`
`04:06.47`	`WoWLuaircBot`	`dylanm: rating = GetCombatRating(combatRatingIdentifier) -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetCombatRating`
`04:07.25`	`dylanm`	`I think 15-17 will get you the same... not completely sure on that.`
`04:07.32`	`batrick`	`thrae you fail at naming your bot`
`04:07.35`	`batrick`	`faiiiiiiiiiiil`
`04:07.36`	`Guillotine`	`hmm, theres some interesting changes`
`04:07.47`	`Guillotine`	`the size of raid icons is set to 0 so that it defaults`
`04:07.55`	`Sixen`	`Can't get on either.`
`04:09.25`	`dylanm`	`Recluse: That help at all?`
`04:09.42`	`Recluse`	`oh, sorry didn't see you reply lol`
`04:10.09`	`dylanm`	`Yeah that was my way of pinging you after the fact. No worries.`
`04:10.33`	`Recluse`	`well, i went to the page to see the identifiers - thought that might be it and all, but none of them actually say resilience, and not sure if any of them would be it. i'm about to put them in-game one at a time and brute-force to find out what they really equal`
`04:10.53`	`Recluse`	`i saw that for finding defense rating was for that combatratingbonus func`
`04:11.02`	`dylanm`	`Well what the actual sheet in-game does, I believe, is find the minimum of all of those.`
`04:11.44`	`Recluse`	`hmm`
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`04:13.18`	`dylanm`	`Take a look around 458 on http://wdnaddons.com/2337799/FrameXML/PaperDollFrame.lua`
`04:13.52`	`Recluse`	`doh! didn't think of looking in the framexml lol`
`04:14.03`	`\|Jelly\|`	`What's the command to leave an arena team?`
`04:14.14`	`Thrae\|Work`	`batrick: What's wrong with the bot's name? At least people can type in "Th", hit tab, and get only my name now.`
`04:14.28`	`Thrae\|Work`	`I can't even type in "bat" and hit tab to complete your name.`
`04:14.35`	`dylanm`	`\|Jelly\|: /teamquit 2v2 and so on`
`04:14.41`	`\|Jelly\|`	`danke`
`04:19.44`	`Recluse`	`dylanm: that's kind of strange that there's no direct number (or doesn't appear to be) and that you have to perform the math to get the actual resilience rating integer, but that looks like it will work, ty`
`04:20.03`	`Guillotine`	`Xinhuan: you're in the new patch code`
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`04:21.08`	`dylanm`	`Recluse: Well there are things in the game which buff only one of those numbers so it seems reasonable.`
`04:25.17`	`Tem\|afk`	`Guillotine, that was in last build`
`04:25.28`	`Tem\|afk`	`(the raid icon sizing)`
`04:25.35`	`Tem\|afk`	`it's still bugged though`
`04:25.41`	`Guillotine`	`hmm, not according to kd3's diff`
`04:25.49`	`Guillotine`	`maybe it just wasn't implemented everywhere`
`04:25.50`	`Tem\|afk`	`the kd3's diff is teh wrong`
`04:25.58`	`kd3`	`lemme double-check`
`04:26.45`	`Guillotine`	`line 177-192 of the diff`
`04:27.19`	`kd3`	`unless my labelling's broke, just got the same diff I did earlier`
`04:27.54`	`Guillotine`	`Tem: Are you sure it set the size to 0 before? I'm pretty sure it just did $size`
`04:28.03`	`Guillotine`	`and then set it to default via that`
`04:28.05`	`Tem\|afk`	`I'm 100% sure`
`04:28.24`	`Tem\|afk`	`the only reason I knew about the feature is because they used it last build`
`04:28.33`	`Guillotine`	`alright`
`04:28.39`	`kd3`	`hm. lemme reinstall the PTR and re pull the interface files`
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`04:35.48`	`Duman`	`hmm`
`04:35.57`	`Duman`	`PTR client is krunked`
`04:38.27`	`Duman`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4976371174&postId=49757445661&sid=1#346`
`04:38.27`	`Duman`	`;-)`
`04:38.29`	`Tem\|afk`	`yeah, they're aware`
`04:40.03`	`kd3`	`nope... it the $size -> 0 happened in this build. just repulled all of the interface files as I went through reinstalling the PTR`
`04:41.20`	`Tem\|afk`	`Note: I have not extracted the new files`
`04:41.42`	`Tem\|afk`	`ChatFrame.lua line 2130: arg1 = string.gsub(arg1, tag, ICON_LIST[ICON_TAG_LIST[term]] .. "0\|t");`
`04:42.23`	`Duman`	`kd3 got a url to the diff?`
`04:42.33`	`Duman`	`or is it on the wiki, heh`
`04:42.40`	`kd3`	`msg me an email, I'll send it to you`
`04:43.18`	`kd3`	`-COMBATLOG_ICON_RAIDTARGET1= "\|TInterface\\TargetingFrame\\UI-RaidTargetingIcon_1.blp:$size\|t";`
`04:43.18`	`kd3`	`+COMBATLOG_ICON_RAIDTARGET1= "\|TInterface\\TargetingFrame\\UI-RaidTargetingIcon_1.blp:0\|t";`
`04:43.27`	`kd3`	`pretty sure that's what guil was referring to`
`04:44.55`	`Tem\|afk`	`oh`
`04:45.12`	`Tem\|afk`	`communication failure`
`04:45.32`	`Guillotine`	`yup`
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`04:52.18`	`kd3`	`Hooray beer!`
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`05:04.40`	`Sixen`	`PTR still down? :/.`
`05:04.44`	`kd3`	`ya`
`05:05.08`	`Sixen`	`Has Hortus posted at all since like 8pm?`
`05:05.51`	`Sixen`	`Hm, last post was 40 minutes ago.`
`05:06.11`	`kd3`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4976371174&sid=1&pageNo=7#137`
`05:06.26`	`kd3`	`his last post quoted me`
`05:06.30`	`Sixen`	`Yeah, :P\|`
`05:06.43`	`MentalPower`	`ScytheBlade1: do you have the link for the PTR patches?`
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`05:08.36`	`Sixen`	`brb.`
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`05:11.26`	`batrick`	`batbot: will shirik break you again?`
`05:11.27`	`batbot`	`batrick, \(o_O)/`
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`05:14.20`	`MentalPower`	`ScytheBlade1: do you have the link for the PTR patches?`
`05:15.19`	`fromatz`	`lua> s=1; s = s + 1; print(s);`
`05:15.19`	`lua_bot`	`fromatz: 2`
`05:16.27`	`art3mis`	`boobies yay \o/`
`05:18.30`	`art3mis`	`intruders! intruder alert intruder alert`
`05:19.03`	`fromatz`	`is there any way to set variables to values in a function, modify them by doing some stuff, then when my function gets called again it doesnt reset those values to whatever i initially set them to?`
`05:19.50`	`fromatz`	`right now i have an index that stores players, but once they get stored and my function gets called again, it resets the index back to 1`
`05:19.52`	`dylanm`	`You set them outside the function. I don't think there's anything like the "static" keyword from C.`
`05:20.05`	`fromatz`	`oh you can set them outside the function?`
`05:20.24`	`Guillotine`	`yup`
`05:20.36`	`Guillotine`	`you can also explicitly declare it as global`
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`05:21.42`	`MentalPower`	`or you can do upvalues`
`05:21.54`	`art3mis`	`bleh[1]`
`05:22.41`	`fromatz`	`yeah im having a hell of a time coding this`
`05:22.52`	`fromatz`	`i get it working, then tweak it, then it quits working =\`
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`05:40.19`	`art3mis`	`woo`
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`05:40.25`	`art3mis`	`stephen lynch is on comedy central`
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`05:40.47`	`kd3`	`whee`
`05:41.04`	`art3mis`	`heh he rules`
`05:48.16`	`kd3`	`test realms up`
`05:48.19`	`kd3`	`cross-zone realms too`
`05:48.23`	`kd3`	`I see eu/kr realms`
`05:48.25`	`kd3`	`finally`
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`05:52.41`	`kd3`	`wtf. combat log's listing chants and stuff I had years ago... t2/t3/c'thun stuff`
`05:52.44`	`kd3`	`w...t...f..`
`05:54.32`	`MentalPower`	`...`
`05:54.38`	`MentalPower`	`thats interesting`
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`05:56.57`	`kd3`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4976431205&postId=49757546932&sid=1#0`
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`06:06.54`	`Tem\|afk`	`woah`
`06:06.58`	`Tem\|afk`	`kd3, me too`
`06:07.05`	`Tem\|afk`	`AHAHA`
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`06:07.14`	`Tem\|afk`	`Fades from Tem's Magister's Gloves`
`06:07.35`	`Tem\|afk`	`Minor Mount Speed Increase fades from Tem's Magister's Gloves`
`06:08.07`	`Duman`	`yeah`
`06:08.16`	`Duman`	`hmm, I guess the arena realm is lacking characters :)`
`06:08.27`	`Tem\|afk`	`Major Spellpower Fades from Tem's Staff of the Shadowflame`
`06:09.21`	`kd3`	`oh wow old school... mantle of the mindflayer... netherwind gear... tirisfal gear...`
`06:09.32`	`Tem\|afk`	`Robe of the Archmage`
`06:09.39`	`Tem\|afk`	`oh /wow/`
`06:09.44`	`Tem\|afk`	`Gloves of Spell Power`
`06:09.49`	`Tem\|afk`	`now /that's/ old school`
`06:09.57`	`kd3`	`my cloak of the devoured! that was hard-fought`
`06:10.13`	`MentalPower`	`so, does anyone have a direct download to the latest patch?`
`06:10.42`	`Duman`	`heh`
`06:10.50`	`kd3`	`s/b on [[Patch mirrors]] by now`
`06:10.57`	`kd3`	`ya`
`06:10.59`	`kd3`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors`
`06:11.43`	`Tem\|afk`	`+$i Agility enchant faded [You] [Murkblood Boots].`
`06:13.14`	`Tem\|afk`	`Guillotine, what's the function for setting the motd again?`
`06:13.25`	`Tem\|afk`	`nevermind`
`06:13.26`	`Guillotine`	`GuildSetMOTD I think`
`06:13.29`	`Guillotine`	`something like that`
`06:13.31`	`Tem\|afk`	`yeah that's it`
`06:14.03`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Ack`
`06:14.05`	`Wobin`	`http://abduzeedo.com/20-beautiful-hdr-pictures`
`06:14.06`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Just woke up`
`06:14.10`	`Wobin`	`some -really- nice photos`
`06:14.13`	`ScytheBlade1`	`MentalPower: files.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/`
`06:14.25`	`ScytheBlade1`	`And diffs going up quickly`
`06:14.33`	`MentalPower`	`yup, I found it in my logs`
`06:14.40`	`ScytheBlade1`	`cool`
`06:14.53`	`MentalPower`	`but you don't have the latest yet :)`
`06:15.03`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Not yet`
`06:15.06`	`kd3`	`whuh? the login screen music?`
`06:15.09`	`ScytheBlade1`	`01:14 < ScytheBlade1> Just woke up`
`06:15.11`	`ScytheBlade1`	`;)`
`06:15.16`	`Duman`	`lol`
`06:15.50`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Working on that now`
`06:16.00`	`Tem\|afk`	`lawl`
`06:16.14`	`Tem\|afk`	`auto sizing of icons is still broketarded`
`06:16.38`	`Tem\|afk`	`check the MOTD to see what happens if you give \|Tpath:0:0:0:0\|t`
`06:16.54`	`Tem\|afk`	`(the first one is just \|Tpath:0\|t`
`06:18.33`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Diffs are up`
`06:18.36`	`ScytheBlade1`	`http://files.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/0.4.0.7979-7994.diff`
`06:18.56`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Patch in a moment`
`06:21.12`	`ScytheBlade1`	`<PROTECTED>`
`06:21.15`	`ScytheBlade1`	`^ patch`
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`06:35.40`	`kd3`	`huh`
`06:35.50`	`kd3`	`x-faction inspect is available to the masses`
`06:36.44`	`Syzgyn`	`been there for a while`
`06:37.08`	`Guillotine`	`Is it possible to delete something on your pastey?`
`06:37.17`	`Guillotine`	`People posted a bunch of ads on mine :(`
`06:41.28`	`Wobin`	`Is it technically -your- pastey?`
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`06:47.19`	`Syzgyn`	`!vs us kel'thuzad syzgyn us kel'thuzad drastix`
`06:47.22`	`WoWLuaircBot`	`Syzgyn: Syzgyn vs Drastix! Two 70 warriors square off!; 33/28/0 vs 11/4/46; Syzgyn wins by 805 TBRs! *OWNED!*`
`06:48.22`	`Guillotine`	`Wobin: yup, I'm admin :)`
`06:48.49`	`Guillotine`	`well, technically I don't think I have any legal ownership, but its 'my' pastey as close as it gets :P`
`06:51.14`	`Cairenn`	`you have ownership of whatever code it was you put in there, presuming it was yours in the first place`
`06:52.47`	`Guillotine`	`Nope, its just ads for 'growth formulas' in guillotine.pastey.net :/`
`06:52.57`	`Guillotine`	`but I do have admin over that part`
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`06:57.38`	`Iriel`	`lo dobly`
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`07:17.16`	`Duman`	`haha`
`07:17.21`	`Duman`	`they need a "Paymaster" on the live realms!!`
`07:17.41`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Seriously`
`07:19.41`	`Guillotine`	`is that test realm up?`
`07:19.45`	`kd3`	`ya`
`07:19.48`	`Guillotine`	`sweet`
`07:19.59`	`Guillotine`	`err, which is it?`
`07:20.00`	`Guillotine`	`oh`
`07:20.01`	`Guillotine`	`theres a ta`
`07:20.05`	`Guillotine`	`tab*`
`07:20.47`	`Guillotine`	`anyone want to group up with a disc priest?`
`07:20.58`	`Guillotine`	`I know how to cheat >.>`
`07:21.06`	`Guillotine`	`I found a script that will let you cast PoM after you're dead`
`07:22.14`	`Duman`	`o.O`
`07:22.22`	`ScytheBlade1`	`orly`
`07:23.20`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Holy crap @ tourney server`
`07:23.21`	`ScytheBlade1`	`w t b`
`07:23.26`	`Duman`	`hehe`
`07:23.27`	`Duman`	`yeah`
`07:23.54`	`Duman`	`altho I was just dorking around and pimped out a warrior in PvE gear, and then realized it's only PvP (there are no mobs)`
`07:23.56`	`Duman`	`hehe`
`07:24.25`	`MentalPower`	`no mobs, no instances, no outland`
`07:24.34`	`MentalPower`	`and only premades`
`07:24.43`	`MentalPower`	`its literally tailored for PvP`
`07:24.54`	`kd3`	`outland's up. you can port to the draenei starting area, can't you?`
`07:26.08`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Where is the gnome paymaster? :(`
`07:26.24`	`Syzgyn`	`what's a paymaster?`
`07:26.31`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Gives you 5k gold`
`07:26.46`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Ah-ha, I see`
`07:27.07`	`Syzgyn`	`nice, but why?`
`07:27.58`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Tourney`
`07:28.07`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Can't transfer characters over, must create a new one`
`07:29.14`	`MentalPower`	`kd3: correct, but you can't actually get to outland`
`07:29.35`	`MentalPower`	`the outland continent is up (draenei + blood elf starting zones), but outland itself is not`
`07:29.42`	`kd3`	`whuh, they disable the dark portal?`
`07:29.46`	`MentalPower`	`yup`
`07:29.58`	`MentalPower`	`no dark portal, no mage portals`
`07:30.09`	`MentalPower`	`and since everyone starts off in the racial starting zones`
`07:30.15`	`MentalPower`	`theres no other way to get to outland`
`07:30.38`	`kd3`	`kuso... didn't start with any teleport spells. bah`
`07:31.12`	`MentalPower`	`what do you want outland for anyways?`
`07:31.16`	`kd3`	`bored`
`07:31.26`	`kd3`	`just to see if I can`
`07:31.27`	`MentalPower`	`granted, but there are no mobs`
`07:31.47`	`MentalPower`	`no NPCs really`
`07:31.48`	`kd3`	`wait... why am I running from dun morogh? /ports to human area`
`07:31.55`	`MentalPower`	`:)`
`07:32.00`	`MentalPower`	`ports to every starting zone`
`07:39.56`	`Syzgyn`	`so I updated CowTip a few days ago, and now I dont get enemy spec info in my tooltips when fighting :(`
`07:40.09`	`Syzgyn`	`but it still shows up in proximo, so its not a server change`
`07:41.07`	`kd3`	`whee, I'm standing on the stair of destiny`
`07:41.25`	`kd3`	`off to shattrath!`
`07:42.02`	`Syzgyn`	`lol`
`07:42.09`	`MentalPower`	`how the hell!?!?`
`07:42.22`	`kd3`	`portal just let me waltz right through`
`07:42.27`	`MentalPower`	`did they not disable the portal?`
`07:42.32`	`MentalPower`	`oh, hmm...`
`07:46.00`	`kd3`	`I am apparently the only one on the continent, alliance-side, though`
`07:46.26`	`kd3`	`wonder if the transports are working?`
`07:46.43`	`ScytheBlade1`	`heh, right, no flying mounts`
`07:47.04`	`Arrowmaster`	`omgwtf`
`07:47.06`	`Arrowmaster`	`+local _G = getfenv(0)`
`07:47.26`	`Arrowmaster`	`Xinhuan: WTF DID YOU DO! YOU GOT AN UPVALUE INTO BLIZZARD CODE!`
`07:47.47`	`MentalPower`	`kd3: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/pvp/tournament/index.xml`
`07:47.54`	`MentalPower`	`guess the mods are not complete`
`07:47.55`	`fromatz`	`does this line look ok:`
`07:47.56`	`fromatz`	`ptab[j] = name .. "/" .. kb .. "/" .. hk .. "/" .. deaths .. "/" .. hg .. "/" .. faction .. "/" .. rank .. "/" .. race .. "/" .. class .. "/" .. damage .. "/" .. healing .. "/" .. fc_or_ba .. "/" .. fr_or_bd;`
`07:48.08`	`fromatz`	`my addon isn't executing this`
`07:48.19`	`fromatz`	`it looks fine to me`
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`07:50.43`	`MentalPower`	`fromatz: string.join("/", name, kb, hk, deaths, hg, faction, rank, race, class, damage, healing, fc_or_ba, fr_or_db)`
`07:50.48`	`Arrowmaster`	`omg a 'do ... end' in bliz code!`
`07:51.04`	`Arrowmaster`	`im going to pass out here`
`07:51.33`	`fromatz`	`k mental, thanks`
`07:52.10`	`kd3`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4976431283&postId=49757548027&sid=1#0`
`07:52.24`	`kd3`	`at least I did my job and reported it`
`07:53.18`	`MentalPower`	`kd3: might want to mention that you're on the tournament server`
`07:53.29`	`kd3`	`that's reported in the tournament server forum`
`07:53.32`	`ScytheBlade1`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4976371174&sid=1&pageNo=7#137`
`07:53.35`	`ScytheBlade1`	`hehehehe`
`07:53.43`	`ScytheBlade1`	`I've never seen hortus taunt people like that`
`07:54.03`	`MentalPower`	`kd3: oh, my bad`
`07:54.10`	`MentalPower`	`didn't know there was such a thing`
`07:54.10`	`kd3`	`no worries`
`07:54.16`	`ScytheBlade1`	`ha`
`07:54.16`	`ScytheBlade1`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4976371174&sid=1&pageNo=24#469`
`07:54.20`	`ScytheBlade1`	`He linked lolcats`
`07:55.50`	`kd3`	`boo. no music in shattrath. /cry`
`07:55.51`	`MentalPower`	`hortus looks like he's happy today`
`07:55.56`	`MentalPower`	`or at least having fun`
`07:57.06`	`Wobin`	`http://itsfuriousbalancing.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/in-ur-ivory-towers.jpg`
`08:01.06`	`Guillotine`	`so anybody on alliance on tourny realm want to group with a disc priest?`
`08:01.44`	`MentalPower`	`I'm going to group with my bed, gnight all`
`08:02.43`	`Arrowmaster`	`have we ever broken a ui changes thread by getting it to 500 posts before?`
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`08:03.43`	`MentalPower\|ZzZz`	`Arrowmaster: oh yes`
`08:03.47`	`MentalPower\|ZzZz`	`many a time`
`08:03.56`	`Arrowmaster`	`2.4 one is going to break soon`
`08:04.03`	`MentalPower\|ZzZz`	`the 2.0 changes thread broke three times i think`
`08:04.20`	`Arrowmaster`	`that one was up for like ever though wasnt it?`
`08:04.29`	`MentalPower\|ZzZz`	`aye`
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`08:23.50`	`Shirik\|AFK`	`grrrrr`
`08:24.02`	`Shirik\|AFK`	`stupid boil water alert`
`08:24.08`	`Shirik\|AFK`	`you go to mcdonalds and you can only get apple juice`
`08:24.09`	`Shirik\|AFK`	`wtf`
`08:24.15`	`kd3`	`whee, fun. water line break?`
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`08:25.06`	`Shirik`	`no actually`
`08:25.14`	`Shirik`	`just one of the stations lost power for about 3 seconds`
`08:25.51`	`Shirik`	`which resulted in a drop of water pressure for an instant, and state law mandates that if water pressure drops below 20psi for any period of time, a boil water alert must be posted for a minimum of 3 days`
`08:27.33`	`Xinhuan`	`[3/1 15:47:25] <Arrowmaster> Xinhuan: WTF DID YOU DO! YOU GOT AN UPVALUE INTO BLIZZARD CODE!`
`08:27.35`	`Xinhuan`	`lol`
`08:27.58`	`Arrowmaster`	`you got _G used`
`08:28.03`	`Arrowmaster`	`likes like world first`
`08:28.46`	`Xinhuan`	`gonna take alook lol`
`08:28.54`	`Xinhuan`	`i only just woke up`
`08:29.08`	`Arrowmaster`	`your names all over the combatlog.lua`
`08:29.25`	`Arrowmaster`	`they double quoted your comments a few places i think`
`08:29.55`	`Guillotine`	`yup`
`08:29.59`	`Guillotine`	`I noticed that too`
`08:30.31`	`Guillotine`	`I got code changed, but didn't get my name in there :(`
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`08:31.45`	`Shirik`	`Anyone here use the UI manager?`
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`08:44.12`	`Xinhuan`	`hmm actually that SetItemRef() hook can't be moved out of there`
`08:44.13`	`Xinhuan`	`because`
`08:44.24`	`Xinhuan`	`it references functions in blizzcombatlog`
`08:45.21`	`Shirik`	`The <something you are not allowed to hear about> is on schedule and should be PS by mid May or earlier. You probably will see production samples if you can come for the summer internship program. Take care and thanks.`
`08:45.25`	`Shirik`	`Anyone know what PS means?`
`08:45.27`	`nevcairiel`	`23mb patch .. wtf did they add now`
`08:45.52`	`kd3`	`the spoiler-laden NPC speech wavs`
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`08:47.02`	`Fisker-`	`^Å^`
`08:47.04`	`Fisker-`	`^^`
`08:49.51`	`nevcairiel`	`oh i can really join the other regions PTRs now`
`08:50.00`	`Wobin`	`Now -there's- a nice concept`
`08:50.12`	`Wobin`	`You phone vote for this Reality TV show`
`08:50.33`	`Wobin`	`and the money made for votes for each particular couple go to a particular charity`
`08:51.51`	`Fisker-`	`what's the point to join other regions ptr's? :o`
`08:54.58`	`Syzgyn`	`I was wondering that myself`
`08:57.00`	`Wobin`	`omg`
`08:57.10`	`Wobin`	`I've never realised how bad german sounds with a new zealand accent =P`
`08:57.17`	`fromatz`	`lua> ptab={}; for i=1, 10 do ptab[i]=1; end pp(ptab);`
`08:57.18`	`lua_bot`	`fromatz: { 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1 } (#1)`
`08:58.22`	`fromatz`	`lua> ptab={}; i=0; ptab[(i%50)+1] = "whatever"; pp(patb);`
`08:58.23`	`lua_bot`	`fromatz: nil`
`08:59.10`	`fromatz`	`lua> ptab={}; i=0; ptab[(i%50)+1] = 6; pp(patb);`
`08:59.10`	`lua_bot`	`fromatz: nil`
`08:59.15`	`Shirik`	`uh`
`08:59.18`	`Shirik`	`helps to spell the var name right`
`08:59.45`	`fromatz`	`its 4 cut me some slack`
`08:59.49`	`Shirik`	`:)`
`09:00.04`	`fromatz`	`ive been trying to work this damn addon out for a week straight`
`09:00.13`	`fromatz`	`lua> ptab={}; i=0; ptab[(i%50)+1] = 6; pp(ptab);`
`09:00.14`	`lua_bot`	`fromatz: { 6 } (#1)`
`09:00.40`	`fromatz`	`my addon is dying at this line`
`09:00.49`	`fromatz`	`ptab[q] = string.join("/", name, kb, hk, deaths, hg, faction, rank, race, class, damage, healing, fc_or_ba, fr_or_bd);`
`09:01.19`	`Shirik`	`what's the error?`
`09:02.00`	`fromatz`	`im not sure, i have tons of add messages, i just know it doesnt print out the addmessage after that line, nor any other line of code after it`
`09:02.13`	`Shirik`	`er`
`09:02.17`	`Shirik`	`do you have Lua errors turned on?`
`09:02.30`	`Shirik`	`better yet, get something like Swatter to help you handle Lua errors`
`09:02.36`	`fromatz`	`hell no, im just using notepad++`
`09:02.42`	`fromatz`	`its a pain to debug without errors`
`09:02.53`	`Shirik`	`you're running it in notepad++?`
`09:03.10`	`fromatz`	`no, im testing it in game, writing it in notepadpp`
`09:03.26`	`Shirik`	`Then what did this mean: (04:02:32) (fromatz) hell no, im just using notepad++`
`09:04.00`	`fromatz`	`means i dont know how to turn errors on basically`
`09:04.58`	`Shirik`	`ok go into interface options`
`09:05.35`	`Shirik`	`under "display" choose "display lua errors"`
`09:05.37`	`fromatz`	`gotya`
`09:05.55`	`fromatz`	`hey, now i only have to wait 30 minutes for a bg queue to pop`
`09:06.05`	`fromatz`	`then another 30ish for the game to end`
`09:07.00`	`Shirik`	`???`
`09:07.06`	`Shirik`	`who's on my computer at school!`
`09:07.13`	`nevcairiel`	`haha`
`09:07.23`	`mikma`	`:D`
`09:08.44`	`fromatz`	`je ne sais pas`
`09:09.06`	`Tem\|afk`	`at 4am on a saturday ...`
`09:09.49`	`Shirik`	`And I was at school until an hour ago :P`
`09:10.05`	`mikma`	`3am at saturday?`
`09:10.14`	`mikma`	`boy you must love that institute`
`09:11.34`	`Shirik`	`It's for a competition`
`09:11.44`	`Shirik`	`it's in a month and we really need to get this stuff done. Would have been there later but...`
`09:11.50`	`Shirik`	`we decided our stupid mistake was worth taking a break from`
`09:12.28`	`Shirik`	`We didn't read the wiring diagram on this one relay that has 12 pins (4 switches, supposedly). Unfortunately we didn't realize the middle 6 pins are completely unused, so it's actually a 2 switch relay`
`09:12.39`	`Shirik`	`We have the right one, but with the amount of resoldering we have to do, decided to wait until noon today`
`09:20.49`	`Shirik`	`do rogues have some kind of auto-kick macro?`
`09:20.54`	`Shirik`	`seriously, some of them kick at the most stupid times`
`09:21.05`	`Shirik`	`seems they just kick if they see me casting a heal`
`09:21.27`	`Shirik`	`So when one gets on me, I cast heal right away, they kick it, then when my health is actually low I can heal without worry of a kick`
`09:21.28`	`Shirik`	`wtf`
`09:21.35`	`Shirik`	`How can you be stupid enough to kick a 100% heal`
`09:31.03`	`Guillotine`	`lol`
`09:31.56`	`Nechckn`	`Shirik ha... this really is surprising? you jest, you jester, you!`
`09:33.19`	`Shirik`	`EVERY ROGUE`
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`09:36.41`	`Nechckn`	`btw... what are you making for your project doo-hickey?`
`09:36.58`	`Nechckn`	`competition doo-hickey, rather`
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`09:47.10`	`Shirik`	`Nechckn: A robot`
`09:47.43`	`Shirik`	`It has to scan a playing area comprised of a mix of rocky, sandy, and paved terrain, search for payloads, judge which are the most valuable, and bring them back to a home base`
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`09:54.38`	`fromatz`	`so the variables defined outside the function body still get called every time the function gets called it seems`
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`10:28.29`	`Tem\|afk`	`wtf lol`
`10:28.33`	`Tem\|afk`	`I just had a 5 on 6`
`10:28.38`	`Tem\|afk`	`in a 3v3 match...`
`10:28.53`	`Nechckn`	`Shirik That sounds especially interesting- best of luck with it.`
`10:29.01`	`Shirik`	`?`
`10:29.19`	`Nechckn`	`robot.. materials`
`10:29.23`	`Shirik`	`oh right`
`10:29.25`	`Shirik`	`it's fun`
`10:29.30`	`Shirik`	`and the thing's beautiful`
`10:29.45`	`Shirik`	`here maybe I can give you a shot of it I took today, though unfortunately a lot of the electronics are missing`
`10:29.51`	`Shirik`	`and it's on my phone so I have to figure out how to transfer it`
`10:30.01`	`Nechckn`	`hahahah`
`10:30.48`	`Shirik`	`hahahaha`
`10:30.55`	`Shirik`	`I still have this picture in my phone of the first time I cooked`
`10:31.04`	`Shirik`	`and sent to my parents to prove I was cooking instead of going to mcdonalds every night`
`10:31.05`	`Nechckn`	`oh my`
`10:31.21`	`Nechckn`	`ha- did they believe you even then?`
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`10:32.11`	`Nechckn`	`well... throw a link up if u can put it up somehow- I really must grab some snooze time`
`10:32.21`	`Shirik`	`sec`
`10:32.23`	`Shirik`	`I almost got it`
`10:32.28`	`Nechckn`	`oh okey dokey`
`10:32.34`	`Shirik`	`<3 AT&T pictureplace`
`10:32.36`	`Shirik`	`makes it so easy`
`10:32.59`	`Shirik`	`er, Verizon`
`10:33.00`	`Shirik`	`whatever I have`
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`10:35.57`	`Shirik`	`here we are`
`10:36.43`	`Nechckn`	`give it... give it....`
`10:37.09`	`Shirik`	`http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/7200/2477453278332855960tu9.jpg`
`10:37.14`	`Shirik`	`It will look a lot better tomorrow`
`10:37.27`	`Shirik`	`that's a bad picture of it and a lot of the components are removed and stuff thrown all over`
`10:37.35`	`Shirik`	`but that computer on it is awesome. PC/104 is so tiny`
`10:37.36`	`Nechckn`	`hehehe I see that`
`10:37.51`	`Nechckn`	`It's pretty smooth lookin' though even with all of that`
`10:38.03`	`Shirik`	`yeah it's all clear too, we're going to put neon lights in it and all`
`10:38.10`	`Shirik`	`screw the battery life`
`10:38.16`	`Shirik`	`it currently has a 2 hour battery life, good enough`
`10:38.41`	`Nechckn`	`ha... with illumination, that will likely go down to like 25mins =)`
`10:38.59`	`Nechckn`	`heheeh eh, likely not that bad, depending on how much`
`10:39.42`	`Nechckn`	`Well, I shall look forward to progress between now and later (tomorrow)`
`10:39.44`	`Shirik`	`We need 6 minutes`
`10:39.46`	`Shirik`	`anyway, take care`
`10:40.08`	`Nechckn`	`That's no issue then... hehehe ligts- Big, Bright lights I say!`
`10:40.19`	`Shirik`	`And 20 switches`
`10:40.24`	`Shirik`	`see that safety switch on the front?`
`10:40.31`	`Shirik`	`(You have to lift up the capbefore you can turn it on)`
`10:40.51`	`Nechckn`	`golly... any reason?`
`10:40.53`	`Shirik`	`We're going to add a ton of those so you have to do something like "Battery A, armed. Battery B, armed. ECL armed. VBS armed. AB1 armed. AB2 armed"`
`10:40.54`	`Shirik`	`no`
`10:40.56`	`Shirik`	`just for the hell of it.`
`10:41.09`	`Shirik`	`We're an aerospace-heavy school`
`10:41.11`	`Shirik`	`we do crap like this`
`10:41.19`	`Shirik`	`makes it seem like the space shuttle lol; we're strange people`
`10:41.32`	`Nechckn`	`nah.. not at all- sounds very cool`
`10:41.42`	`Shirik`	`Actually those grey boxes`
`10:41.45`	`Shirik`	`those come from an airplane`
`10:41.54`	`Shirik`	`well they're airplane part spares`
`10:42.03`	`Shirik`	`aircraft-grade relays`
`10:42.26`	`Shirik`	`anyway, go to sleep`
`10:42.30`	`Shirik`	`I need to also`
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`10:42.37`	`Nechckn`	`yeah.... I'll catch up later`
`10:42.41`	`Shirik`	`take care :)`
`10:42.44`	`Nechckn`	`<PROTECTED>`
`10:47.36`	`Shirik`	`Anyone here good with SVN?`
`10:47.47`	`nevcairiel`	`depends what you need`
`10:47.57`	`Shirik`	`well here's the deal`
`10:48.39`	`Shirik`	`I'm working on a branch right now -- deal is, someone reported a critical bug in version 2.9 of the app and I was working on 3.0, so I branched off what I was doing, went to 2.9, fixed that and released 2.10`
`10:49.09`	`Shirik`	`Now I'm testing 3.0 and I'm encountering the same bug >< So I'm hoping there's an easy way to bring in the changes to 2.10 -- Should I merge and then rebranch?`
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`10:49.25`	`Shirik`	`Because if I do that, that means the trunk is going to be filled with the 3.0 code`
`10:49.28`	`nevcairiel`	`you could just merge the changes directly into your 3.0 branch`
`10:49.35`	`Shirik`	`how would I do that?`
`10:49.48`	`nevcairiel`	`tortoise or command line?`
`10:49.52`	`Shirik`	`either works`
`10:50.33`	`nevcairiel`	`with tortoise its relatively easy, just get to the 3.0 branch, and open the merge dialog`
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`10:50.55`	`nevcairiel`	`then in the from url select your 2.9 or 2.10 thing, i suspect trunk`
`10:51.08`	`nevcairiel`	`hit show log and select all revisions you want merged into the branch`
`10:52.06`	`Shirik`	`merge from trunk to branch?`
`10:52.26`	`nevcairiel`	`if trunk is where you fixed the critical bug, and branch is your 3.0 thing, yea`
`10:52.47`	`Shirik`	`can I choose the tag instead?`
`10:52.50`	`Shirik`	`may make a little more sense`
`10:53.10`	`nevcairiel`	`whatever works for you, just select a changeset that has the changes you need`
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`10:53.41`	`wereHamster`	`Shirik, with git it would be git-cherry-pick :)`
`10:53.41`	`nevcairiel`	`if you use tags like one should, i would guess it wont work`
`10:53.51`	`Shirik`	`git can diaf`
`10:56.19`	`Shirik`	`hmmm, nevcairiel I must be doing something wrong`
`10:56.27`	`nevcairiel`	`i suppose`
`10:56.37`	`nevcairiel`	`just fix it again directly in code =P`
`10:57.07`	`Shirik`	`if I do it one way, it adds in the new files the branch provides and then removes the 2.10 changes`
`10:57.18`	`Shirik`	`if I do it the other way, it adds in the 2.10 changes and deletes the new files`
`10:57.48`	`nevcairiel`	`you only need to apply the changes from the revisions where you fixed the bug, not a full 2.10 merge :P`
`10:59.48`	`Shirik`	`I must be completely jacking this up`
`10:59.49`	`wereHamster`	`svn merge -r REV1:REV2 where REV2 is the changeset that made the fix I believe`
`10:59.55`	`Shirik`	`it's 6AM I'm going to go to sleep and figure this out later`
`11:00.12`	`Shirik`	`thanks though`
`11:00.16`	`Shirik`	`at least I know where to look now`
`11:00.24`	`Shirik`	`I can read the documentation on merge closer -- I thought I knew what it did ><`
`11:00.50`	`Shirik`	`my revision graph looks go ugly right now, lol`
`11:00.51`	`wereHamster`	`or -c REV2`
`11:00.59`	`Shirik`	`looks like there's actually multiple people working on it`
`11:01.15`	`Shirik`	`it goes all over the place, branching off and around revisions, pulling others out, merging others`
`11:01.20`	`Shirik`	`it's like an interestate network`
`11:03.38`	`Shirik`	`night all :)`
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`11:07.06`	`Shirik\|zZz`	`ROFL`
`11:07.09`	`Shirik\|zZz`	`Just logged in`
`11:07.19`	`Shirik\|zZz`	`I'm still a member of a guild I gquit my main from about 3 months ago`
`11:07.35`	`Shirik\|zZz`	`people need to double-check guild members more often`
`11:08.16`	`Guillotine`	`So, for anybody that is very familiar with windows... Suppose I am in folder A. I need to run a program in folder B (which is parallel to A). Obviously, I could do "cd .." "cd B" "runprog". But how would I do that all on one line? Just "..\B\runprog" doesn't work :(`
`11:08.49`	`nevcairiel`	`why doesnt it work?`
`11:09.05`	`nevcairiel`	`does the programm start at all?`
`11:09.07`	`Guillotine`	`try it. Command prompt just doesn't accept .. at the beginning`
`11:09.12`	`nevcairiel`	`oh`
`11:09.30`	`nevcairiel`	`works for me`
`11:09.38`	`Shirik\|zZz`	`:< nevcairiel`
`11:10.03`	`Shirik\|zZz`	`Guillotine: It should work`
`11:10.11`	`Guillotine`	`nevcairiel: with windows? o.O what version? It tells me that it isn't a recognized internal or external command`
`11:10.13`	`Shirik\|zZz`	`if not, try wrapping it in quotes`
`11:10.19`	`nevcairiel`	`XP64`
`11:10.29`	`nevcairiel`	`i just did ..\somehtmlfile.html`
`11:10.31`	`nevcairiel`	`and it starts`
`11:10.44`	`Shirik\|zZz`	`If it has a space, it needs quotes, as well as a few other intricacies`
`11:10.49`	`Syzgyn`	`Guillotine: the other alternative is to go back to the root drive, "C:\folder\otherfolder\B\runprog"`
`11:11.16`	`nevcairiel`	`you can even simply do "..\File with space.jpg"`
`11:11.23`	`Guillotine`	`Well, the problem is I'm running SciTe off of a USB drive. And I want it to be able to one-click compile C files. So since it won't always be the same drive letter...`
`11:11.36`	`Shirik\|zZz`	`Guillotine: Did you try my suggestion?`
`11:11.45`	`Guillotine`	`Shirik: trying it now :)`
`11:12.28`	`nevcairiel`	`if its a real programm it will however most likely expect to be called from within the directory for its work environment`
`11:13.01`	`Shirik\|zZz`	`P.S. Guillotine, if you don't know the drive, but otherwise know the root path`
`11:13.08`	`Shirik\|zZz`	`you can do "\folder\otherfolder\B\prog"`
`11:13.20`	`Guillotine`	`o rly?`
`11:13.27`	`nevcairiel`	`sure`
`11:13.30`	`nevcairiel`	`but .. should work just fine`
`11:13.32`	`Guillotine`	`oh wait`
`11:13.33`	`Guillotine`	`of course`
`11:13.41`	`Guillotine`	`I really shouldn't be doing this without having slept in 24 hours...`
`11:13.49`	`Shirik\|zZz`	`:)`
`11:13.59`	`Shirik\|zZz`	`however I do like the .. solution better`
`11:14.01`	`Shirik\|zZz`	`but, meh`
`11:14.32`	`Shirik\|zZz`	`ok seriously, beddie bye times`
`11:17.26`	`Guillotine`	`for me too :(`
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`11:18.06`	`zenzelezz`	`bah, and he just left`
`11:18.41`	`zenzelezz`	`Windows XP's command line at least recognizes "&&" as in "cd .. && cd somefolder && whatevercommand"`
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`11:19.17`	`nevcairiel`	`if you chain up cds like that, do cd ..\otherfolder :P`
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`11:20.30`	`zenzelezz`	`nevcairiel: I agree about that, but he was saying something weird like getting "unrecognized command" about it, don't ask me how he got that`
`11:20.42`	`nevcairiel`	`probably had one . too much or so =P`
`11:20.57`	`nevcairiel`	`or he used a path name`
`11:21.02`	`nevcairiel`	`not a actual file`
`11:21.07`	`nevcairiel`	`and tried to execute it`
`11:21.24`	`nevcairiel`	`anyway, back to my web dev`
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`11:33.19`	`Tem\|afk`	`Anyone on the PTR: DO NOT TYPE /consol worldport Altar of Shadows`
`11:33.30`	`sacarasc`	`why not?`
`11:33.33`	`sacarasc`	`i want to now`
`11:34.10`	`batrick`	`sounds like u get fucked`
`11:34.11`	`Syzgyn`	`you're lucky I just quit out of it...`
`11:34.28`	`Fisker-`	`probably because worldport doesn't take areas as arguments`
`11:34.29`	`Tem\|afk`	`you get ported to a place that crashes the game`
`11:34.35`	`Tem\|afk`	`and then you can't log in`
`11:34.44`	`Fisker-`	`also doesn't work`
`11:34.45`	`sacarasc`	`sounds fun`
`11:34.54`	`sacarasc`	`did you just try, Fisker-?`
`11:34.58`	`Fisker-`	`obviously Tem\|afk`
`11:35.00`	`Fisker-`	`yes sacarasc`
`11:35.06`	`Syzgyn`	`yeah, did nothing`
`11:35.29`	`sacarasc`	`moral of the story, if you want someone to do something, tell them not to`
`11:35.39`	`Syzgyn`	`haha`
`11:35.50`	`Fisker-`	`ah`
`11:36.06`	`Fisker-`	`it's active on the tournament realm`
`11:36.13`	`Syzgyn`	`Whatever you do little timmy, DONT eat your fruits and vegetables!`
`11:37.19`	`batrick`	`ugh`
`11:37.36`	`batrick`	`waking up at 4am with a monster head ache sucks`
`11:38.27`	`Fisker-`	`haha`
`11:38.31`	`Fisker-`	`i just ported into an arena game`
`11:38.37`	`sacarasc`	`lol`
`11:40.31`	`sacarasc`	`did you get to fight and ruin it, or just spectate?`
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`11:43.42`	`Stanzilla`	`is there a 7979 / 7994 diff yet?`
`11:44.13`	`Fisker-`	`anyone remember the instace id of sunwell plateau?`
`11:49.36`	`Fisker-`	`who is on the tournament realm?`
`11:49.39`	`Fisker-`	`need a group`
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`12:09.03`	`Fisker-`	`weird`
`12:09.10`	`Fisker-`	`the port command says "Can't find player or NPC"`
`12:09.17`	`Fisker-`	`but it doesn't seem to work on npc's`
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`12:24.12`	`Roath`	`greetings everyone :)`
`12:25.50`	`Roath`	`anyone know how to lock chat tabs from being accidentally moved?`
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`12:27.36`	`wereHamster`	`right click -> lock ?`
`12:27.52`	`Roath`	`you cans till drag other tabs`
`12:27.58`	`Roath`	`can still*`
`12:28.06`	`Roath`	`its only the main one that you cant`
`12:28.17`	`wereHamster`	`then lock all tabs?`
`12:28.32`	`wereHamster`	`or is that not possible?`
`12:28.50`	`Roath`	`they all say they are locked when they are docked with the main tab, but you can still drag them`
`12:29.11`	`wereHamster`	`then I have no idea`
`12:29.33`	`Roath`	`:(`
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`13:14.57`	`batrick`	`Shirik\|zZz: ping`
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`13:24.19`	`cheesepls`	`hi all`
`13:24.44`	`cheesepls`	`need some kind of addon so i can use coordinates, wahts best??`
`13:25.54`	`break19`	`tomtom\`
`13:26.03`	`cheesepls`	`heh`
`13:26.09`	`cheesepls`	`for wow :)`
`13:26.22`	`Stanzilla`	`still tomtom`
`13:26.23`	`Stanzilla`	`:P`
`13:26.25`	`zenzelezz`	`TomTom is a WoW addon`
`13:26.41`	`cheesepls`	`really ?`
`13:26.49`	`cheesepls`	`lol`
`13:26.53`	`nevcairiel`	`i wonder if clad would have to rename when a TomTom guy gets annoyed by he using that name`
`13:27.26`	`cheesepls`	`im just about to install titan aswell, does nothing map wise come with that?`
`13:27.34`	`nevcairiel`	`aww titan`
`13:27.48`	`cheesepls`	`heh im new i dunno whats good :/`
`13:27.55`	`nevcairiel`	`but no, i dont think titan comes with map stuff`
`13:28.11`	`cheesepls`	`:/`
`13:28.25`	`cheesepls`	`so any other recommendations for map addons`
`13:28.40`	`nevcairiel`	`Mapster`
`13:28.41`	`break19`	`mapster`
`13:28.46`	`nevcairiel`	`but of course, i am preoccupied`
`13:28.48`	`break19`	`nevcairiel: jinx`
`13:28.51`	`nevcairiel`	`because i wrote it =P`
`13:28.56`	`break19`	`preoccupied?`
`13:29.06`	`break19`	`you're doing something else while suggesting it?`
`13:29.09`	`[dRaCo]`	`or cartographer :P`
`13:29.16`	`cheesepls`	`really for now just want somthing basic to use corordinates`
`13:29.23`	`Stanzilla`	`Mapster :P`
`13:29.25`	`nevcairiel`	`hm i was thinking of another word`
`13:29.30`	`nevcairiel`	`but if you want something basic, get Mapster`
`13:29.44`	`nevcairiel`	`http://files.wowace.com/Mapster/Mapster.zip`
`13:29.46`	`[dRaCo]`	`biased or partisan :)`
`13:29.53`	`break19`	`nevcairiel: i think you meant biased. yea.`
`13:29.58`	`cheesepls`	`ty guys`
`13:30.09`	`cheesepls`	`that site legit yeah :D`
`13:30.20`	`cheesepls`	`have been warned about dodgy wow downloads`
`13:30.29`	`[dRaCo]`	`no keyloggers so far :>`
`13:30.44`	`[dRaCo]`	`and, if you really wanna, there's just text files in that zip, so...`
`13:30.47`	`nevcairiel`	`nah wowace hasnt been breached yet`
`13:31.18`	`cheesepls`	`ty`
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`13:31.59`	`cheesepls`	`ooh no instructions??`
`13:32.05`	`cheesepls`	`whers it go?.`
`13:32.25`	`nevcairiel`	`where all other addons go, just place the Mapster folder in WoW\Interface\AddOns`
`13:32.33`	`nevcairiel`	`where WoW is your install dir, obviously :)`
`13:32.36`	`cheesepls`	`oh right cool`
`13:32.39`	`cheesepls`	`ty`
`13:35.49`	`cheesepls`	`heh this is pretty cool it works straightaway :)`
`13:35.55`	`cheesepls`	`no messing around`
`13:36.02`	`nevcairiel`	`thats how i designed it :)`
`13:36.22`	`nevcairiel`	`i hate stuff that needs a long setup before you can use it`
`13:36.22`	`nevcairiel`	`just drop it in the addons dir, and it works`
`13:36.22`	`cheesepls`	`sweet dude GJ`
`13:36.46`	`cheesepls`	`yeah i was expecting lots of messing about to gert it working , cool`
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`13:37.13`	`cheesepls`	`now i can find this silly relic :D`
`13:37.16`	`nevcairiel`	`Hm i should release Mapster on WoWI`
`13:37.36`	`cheesepls`	`ty bbl :)`
`13:37.55`	`[dRaCo]`	`nevcairiel: so to replace cart, _waypoints, _mining, _herbalism and _lookandfeel, what would I need?`
`13:38.12`	`nevcairiel`	`[dRaCo]: Mapster, GatherMate, TomTom`
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`13:38.42`	`nevcairiel`	`altho i guess TomTom isnt a 100% replacement for waypoints yet, but clad is working on that`
`13:38.48`	`[dRaCo]`	`thanks... guess I'll check it out on some alt`
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`14:09.21`	`Lunessa`	`I think I just found my new forum signature... http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/03/01/funny-pictures-to-your-suffering/`
`14:11.42`	`foxlit`	`Did the latest PTR push reset auth servers?`
`14:13.08`	`wereHamster`	`no, you got hacked ;)`
`14:13.53`	`foxlit`	`Unlikely :P`
`14:17.52`	`foxlit`	`/. "Kit Kat bars don't break as often as a 360."`
`14:35.41`	`zenzelezz`	`I suppose Kit Kat bars are a kind of candy that's supposed to break?`
`14:36.08`	`wereHamster`	`I think I found a bug in OnEnter/OnLeave detection. I have a situation when one of my frames doesn't receive a OnLeave when the mouse leaves the frame through another frame that has a higher framelevel then the first frame`
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`14:50.42`	`Lunessa`	`zenzelezz: http://www.hersheys.com/products/details/kitkat.asp`
`14:52.54`	`zenzelezz`	`aha, expected something like that`
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`14:58.50`	`wereHamster`	`wtf does wow rename my addon folder to addon.old?`
`14:59.44`	`Lunessa`	`wereHamster: No, it does not.`
`14:59.52`	`wereHamster`	`so who does?`
`15:00.18`	`Lunessa`	`Did you run the repair tool? That would name it addons(datestring)`
`15:00.32`	`Lunessa`	`Anything else ... well... Malware is fun.`
`15:01.07`	`wereHamster`	`I know some malware did run under wine, but I doubt the keyloggers that the chinese use do..`
`15:01.31`	`wereHamster`	`and it's only one addon that is renamed, all othrs say fine`
`15:02.48`	`Lunessa`	`shrug WoW doesn't do that. The repair tool does it's own naming. Did you update addons recently? maybe some dufus checked in an old file to the SVN?`
`15:03.31`	`wereHamster`	`ok, so create a folder Addons/BlizzardFooBar, create a valid toc file, start up wow and watch what happens`
`15:03.55`	`JoshBorke`	`i don't think you're allowed to call sometihng BlizzardX maybe?`
`15:04.27`	`wereHamster`	`ok, did slouken say that?`
`15:04.45`	`JoshBorke`	`no, but it makes sense in that they don't want anyone to think it is supported by blizz`
`15:05.25`	`wereHamster`	`I would understand if they checked addons starting with 'Blizzard_' ...`
`15:06.50`	`foxlit`	`Meh, that's pointless`
`15:07.14`	`foxlit`	`You're still not able to sign them, so there's nothing to win there :)`
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`15:30.30`	`wereHamster`	`I know what's wrong, MouseIsOver() can return true in the OnLeave script. When the mouse moves between frames with different strata, but only in one way, in the other way it returns false`
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`15:39.53`	`wereHamster`	`could someone please post this to the US forums? http://pastey.net/83206 thanks`
`15:47.57`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`thread title?`
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`15:48.15`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`wereHamster:`
`15:49.28`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`poke poke`
`15:49.42`	`wereHamster`	`I don't know.. something along 'inconsistent MouseIsOver() return value if called in the OnLeave script handler' but that's probably too long`
`15:50.48`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4976251611&postId=49757450981&sid=1#0`
`15:51.04`	`wereHamster`	`oh, thanks :)`
`15:51.08`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`welcome`
`15:51.13`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`that work, the way I put the title?`
`15:51.46`	`wereHamster`	`yeah, no worries, I'm sure slouken will understand what I mean :)`
`15:51.51`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`nod`
`15:53.27`	`JoshBorke`	`wereHamster: does it always happen top->bottom?`
`15:53.34`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`New Arena Tournament realm: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=84359#post84359`
`15:54.11`	`wereHamster`	`I just want to know wheter that will be fixed or not. I know of another nasty 'bug' in the OnUpdate script handler (basically, OnUpdate is invoked after the frame has been hidden/OnHide has been run) that will never be fixed. So...`
`15:54.28`	`wereHamster`	`JoshBorke, yes. I think it has to do with the frame levels`
`15:54.51`	`Lunessa`	`Cairenn\|afk: Interesting. Pointless for people like me who have zero interest in PvP, but interesting.`
`15:54.52`	`wereHamster`	`from a higher level frame to a lower level frame it works, the other way around not`
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`15:55.10`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`Lunessa: I agree, but yeah, interesting for those who enjoy it`
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`15:55.37`	`JoshBorke`	`in your example they are the same level, no?`
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`15:56.38`	`Lunessa`	`I rather expect that it will draw a lot of self-selected elite. People who obsess over every point of resilience and have maxxed out rigs for best response times. :)`
`15:57.06`	`wereHamster`	`JoshBorke, true. But the frames are stored in a list, so one frame must come before the other :)`
`15:58.12`	`wereHamster`	`oh yeah, it has to do with in which order the frames were created :-.`
`15:58.53`	`JoshBorke`	`if you want me to add to the post, just pastey the text`
`15:59.00`	`JoshBorke`	`i think he'll need more details to fix it`
`16:02.14`	`Lunessa`	`http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b0b_1204280299`
`16:05.04`	`wereHamster`	`JoshBorke, it has to do with levels, too. The problem emerges if 1) mouse moves from a frame with a lower level to a frame with a hightr level 2) if the frames have the same level then if the mouse moves from a frame that was created later to a frame that was created earlier.`
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`16:28.29`	`nevcairiel`	`Fast WoWI Admin is fast`
`16:28.35`	`nevcairiel`	`i bet it was Cairenn`
`16:35.19`	`Kalroth`	`nevcairiel: she mods in her sleep`
`16:35.51`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`^_-`
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`16:51.19`	`Lunessa`	`Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big old storm right in the eye and says, "Give me your best shot. I can take it."`
`16:56.26`	`zenzelezz`	`who is Jack Burton?`
`16:56.52`	`Lunessa`	`...`
`16:57.12`	`Lunessa`	`John Carpenter's Big Trouble in Little China.`
`16:57.13`	`[dRaCo]`	`I know Jim Beam`
`16:57.23`	`nevcairiel`	`I bet i can type this line faster as the fast WoWI admin can approve my file!`
`16:57.27`	`Lunessa`	`Perhaps the finest example of geek cinema ever crafted.`
`16:57.29`	`nevcairiel`	`i won!`
`16:57.30`	`nevcairiel`	`:D`
`16:57.37`	`[dRaCo]`	`at least they got the same initials`
`16:57.39`	`zenzelezz`	`that film is ancient`
`16:57.47`	`zenzelezz`	`all I remember is a truck driver and a girl with green eyes`
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`16:57.59`	`wereHamster`	`lua> t={1,2,3,4}; table.remove(t,3); print(t)`
`16:58.00`	`lua_bot`	`wereHamster: table: 0x630f30`
`16:58.08`	`wereHamster`	`lua> t={1,2,3,4}; table.remove(t,3); t;`
`16:58.09`	`lua_bot`	`wereHamster: luabot:1: '=' expected near ';'`
`16:58.31`	`Lunessa`	`Well, yes... but...`
`16:58.39`	`Lunessa`	`~fail zenzelezz`
`16:58.40`	`purl`	`zenzelezz: Fail.`
`16:58.46`	`nevcairiel`	`it would be a table like {1,2,4} wereHamster :P`
`16:59.50`	`wereHamster`	`lua> t={1,2,3,4}; table.remove(t,3); pp(t);`
`16:59.51`	`lua_bot`	`wereHamster: { 1, 2, 4 } (#1)`
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`17:06.35`	`zenzelezz`	`Lunessa: the movie's only two years younger than me`
`17:07.01`	`Lunessa`	`Then you have no excuse.`
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`17:45.32`	`Shirik\|zZz`	`YES!`
`17:45.40`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Go back to sleep`
`17:45.41`	`Shirik\|zZz`	`"Hey, something came up and I won't be able to meet today at 2 in the library. Let's shoot for 2 on Sunday if that works for everyone."`
`17:45.51`	`Shirik\|zZz`	`no meeting today ftw`
`17:47.30`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Knowing yesterday that it was cancelled = priceless`
`17:50.24`	`zenzelezz`	`if you're a leveling/soloing rogue, do you at all bother with daggers or just grab a quick and a slow sword?`
`17:50.47`	`[dRaCo]`	`I'd always level as combat/swords`
`17:51.06`	`zenzelezz`	`so dual swords?`
`17:51.11`	`[dRaCo]`	`yeah`
`17:51.14`	`dylanm`	`Pretty much.`
`17:51.20`	`dylanm`	`Especially once you pick up the specialization.`
`17:51.21`	`[dRaCo]`	`best weapons available are swords, it's the easiest spec, you don't have to worry about positioning`
`17:51.21`	`nevcairiel`	`Shirik\|zZz: well then, approve my upload =P`
`17:51.54`	`zenzelezz`	`basically anything that requires a dagger so far seems to require it in main hand, or to be stealthed, or behind the target... none of which seem to go well with soloing :-)`
`17:53.19`	`Lopeppeppy`	`I never found much for good daggers leveling, which weren't crafted. I leveled as combat swords dual wielding.`
`17:53.26`	`break19`	`i love my mutilate spec.`
`17:53.53`	`break19`	`kidney shot, mutilate, backstab, he faces me, gouge, spin behind em. repeat`
`17:54.08`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Yeah, rogues are hax.`
`17:54.35`	`[dRaCo]`	`mutilate can be fun, but only once you've reached 40something`
`17:54.39`	`dylanm`	`There are a ton of great daggers in the game but they're mostly in Outlands.`
`17:54.42`	`[dRaCo]`	`and even then combat is prolly faster`
`17:54.52`	`zenzelezz`	`that takes skill. I'm used to just running up to a mob and yell HEY; LOOK AT ME! while punching them with my shield`
`17:54.53`	`break19`	`i hated combat spec.`
`17:54.57`	`dylanm`	`And they're accompanied by a ton of good swords too so you never really catch up :-/`
`17:56.08`	`break19`	`Dugald, Level 70 Dwarf Rogue (43/0/18). 7074 HP; +10 Energy; 1112 AP; 226.800 Melee DPS; 21.98% melee crit; 174 melee hit; 17.27% dodge; 4 resilience; 10 frost resist (+10);[[ TBR: 938 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2y8q7r ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2tzgcq ][ Updated: Sat Mar 1 13:05:36 2008 EST ]]`
`17:56.10`	`break19`	`my rogue.`
`17:56.22`	`break19`	`he aint tops by any means.. but I still like him`
`17:57.16`	`break19`	`but hes not on my main's server, and im too cheap to pay the 25 bucks.. heh`
`17:58.33`	`break19`	`meh.. woman!@ why'd you have to mention food!? now im hungry.. gah im gonna go help the wife find food.. bbl`
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`18:04.12`	`Lunessa`	`I do so love tax season. Truly. I mean, hey work all year, have money taken out in significant amounts, and discover that I STILL owe income tax. headdesk`
`18:09.39`	`Lopeppeppy`	`comfort`
`18:10.15`	`Lunessa`	`Screw it. I'm going to file on the last possible day.`
`18:11.24`	`Lopeppeppy`	`I have to pay someone to tell me how much I owe. sigh`
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`18:12.25`	`Lunessa`	`My filing is simple. I haven't done any freelancing in over a year, and I have no complications to things, so W-2 and 1040EZ ... and /wrists`
`18:12.57`	`Lunessa`	`I guess I should go adjust my withholding... so that next year I don't have to pay.`
`18:12.59`	`Lopeppeppy`	`hug`
`18:14.20`	`Lunessa`	`I now return you to your regularly scheduled on-topic conversations. Thank you.`
`18:14.36`	`kd3`	`like taxes aren't on-topic this time of year?`
`18:15.15`	`Lopeppeppy`	`shudder`
`18:15.30`	`break19`	`Lunessa: Im getting back about 3k.. wanna know my secret?`
`18:15.54`	`break19`	`Lunessa: its called a baby... :)`
`18:16.14`	`Lunessa`	`break19 you give them a crap ton upfront, have dependents, a mortgage, and an accountant to shield you from the audits?`
`18:16.38`	`Lunessa`	`taxes = unwanted anal pentration via my wallet`
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`18:16.50`	`break19`	`Lunessa: when I applied, I didnt claim any dependants.. now we have 1. heh`
`18:17.48`	`Lunessa`	`break19: Congratulations on the baby. However, I'm single, white, male. I'm responsible for paying for everything and for every evil thing which has ever been done to anyone. I should stop my bitching. At least I'm the ruling elite.`
`18:18.11`	`break19`	`Lunessa: yea.. thats what they keep telling us. lol`
`18:18.57`	`break19`	`dammit, why'd I have to mention the kid.. now she's fussin, wantin to be fed. lol. bbl.`
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`18:28.42`	`AlexanderYoshi`	`Good morning, Iriel`
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`18:28.53`	`Iriel`	`Morning AY`
`18:30.50`	`AlexanderYoshi`	`Does Elitist Jerks have an IRC channel?`
`18:33.05`	`ScytheBlade1`	`They do`
`18:33.20`	`Xinhuan`	`not on this server`
`18:33.22`	`ScytheBlade1`	`I stopped in once for 10 minutes and left`
`18:33.23`	`Xinhuan`	`its on gamesurge`
`18:33.29`	`AlexanderYoshi`	`I'll go to any server. Xin`
`18:33.31`	`Xinhuan`	`in #elitistjerks`
`18:33.32`	`nevcairiel`	`gamesurge still exists?`
`18:33.35`	`Xinhuan`	`ya`
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`18:33.46`	`Xinhuan`	`#battlegroup9 server as well`
`18:33.50`	`nevcairiel`	`i thought they were going down after they had to rename`
`18:33.55`	`Xinhuan`	`nah`
`18:33.58`	`AlexanderYoshi`	`what's the irc server name`
`18:34.06`	`ScytheBlade1`	`irc.gamesurge.net iirc`
`18:34.07`	`Xinhuan`	`rename was just a technicality more than 1-2 years ago or something`
`18:34.19`	`nevcairiel`	`i used to use that network alot`
`18:34.20`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Most non standard irc services EVER`
`18:34.24`	`nevcairiel`	`but kinda stopped after the rename`
`18:34.32`	`Xinhuan`	`galaxynet is more non-standard`
`18:34.35`	`Xinhuan`	`they dont' use chanserv`
`18:34.41`	`Xinhuan`	`they use a channel service called Q`
`18:34.47`	`nevcairiel`	`thats QuakeNet too`
`18:34.53`	`nevcairiel`	`Q L R O S etc :P`
`18:34.57`	`ScytheBlade1`	`lol`
`18:36.08`	`nevcairiel`	`been along time since i was on GameSurge .. i wonder if some of my old browser game buddys still hang out there`
`18:36.32`	`nevcairiel`	`browser games took a big hit when WoW was released .. thats when i stopped going there :D`
`18:37.30`	`nevcairiel`	`speaking of which, some guy just contacted me about some very old CS plugin i once wrote o.O`
`18:37.59`	`nevcairiel`	`i dont believe i even have the source anymore`
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`18:42.48`	`Xinhuan`	`anyway, ej irc is generally just random chat`
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`18:47.01`	`AlexanderYoshi`	`Ah, not much mechanics discussions?`
`18:47.16`	`dylanm`	`No, there's that too.`
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`18:49.21`	`DOA--`	`Is there something special you have to do to make frame:SetBackdrop to work?`
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`18:51.37`	`Xinhuan`	`there's generally more random chat than mechanic discussions`
`18:51.43`	`Xinhuan`	`because mechanic discussions are better suited on the forums`
`18:51.50`	`dylanm`	`Agreed. Forums are better.`
`18:51.56`	`Xinhuan`	`with maths and theorems, etc`
`18:52.24`	`DOA--`	`What forum do you sugest?`
`18:52.32`	`dylanm`	`The EJ forums :p`
`18:52.43`	`dylanm`	`DOA--: Did you try doing SetBackDropColor?`
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`18:52.50`	`DOA--`	`dylanm: yes`
`18:52.59`	`DOA--`	`it shows nothing at all`
`18:53.01`	`dylanm`	`Er, SetBackdropColor.`
`18:53.08`	`foxlit`	`pass it a valid table`
`18:53.11`	`foxlit`	`Is all that's required.`
`18:53.22`	`DOA--`	`but it works like a charm from the xml`
`18:53.41`	`DOA--`	`frame:SetBackdrop({bgFile="Interface\Tooltips\UI-Tooltip-Background",`
`18:53.41`	`DOA--`	`edgeFile="Interface\Tooltips\UI-Tooltip-Border",`
`18:53.41`	`DOA--`	`tile = true,`
`18:53.41`	`DOA--`	`tileSize = 16,`
`18:53.41`	`DOA--`	`edgeSize = 16,`
`18:53.41`	`DOA--`	`insets = {left = 4, right = 4, top = 4, bottom = 4}});`
`18:53.42`	`dylanm`	`Paste the code? You might be doing it wrong.`
`18:53.55`	`foxlit`	`\Escape of fail`
`18:53.57`	`dylanm`	`Not here! You'll be lynched.`
`18:54.22`	`dylanm`	`Tried double-backslashes?`
`18:54.23`	`foxlit`	`---> "Interface\Tooltips\UI-Tooltip-Background"`
`18:54.27`	`foxlit`	`--> "Interface\Tooltips\UI-Tooltip-Background"`
`18:54.28`	`batbot`	`foxlit: > InterfaceTooltipsUI-Tooltip-Background`
`18:54.34`	`foxlit`	`See the problem? :)`
`18:54.46`	`dylanm`	`You either do \\ or /`
`18:54.57`	`DOA--`	`ah, ffs :P`
`18:54.58`	`DOA--`	`thanks`
`18:55.16`	`dylanm`	`It works in XML because the XML doesn't need \ to be escaped :p`
`18:55.37`	`DOA--`	`ye, i guess. Thanks guys`
`18:56.09`	`dylanm`	`Shadowed didn't you have complaints about the new combat log`
`18:56.13`	`nevcairiel`	`--> "\T"`
`18:56.14`	`batbot`	`nevcairiel: > T`
`18:56.17`	`nevcairiel`	`thats weird tho`
`18:56.20`	`wereHamster`	`-->`
`18:56.23`	`nevcairiel`	`no special char \T ? :P`
`18:56.28`	`kd3`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:56.28`	`nevcairiel`	`--> "\t"`
`18:56.28`	`batbot`	`nevcairiel: >`
`18:56.32`	`wereHamster`	`--> "\n"`
`18:56.32`	`batbot`	`wereHamster: > \n`
`18:56.42`	`wereHamster`	`heh`
`19:01.45`	`Shadowed`	`dylanm ?`
`19:01.50`	`Shadowed`	`not really`
`19:01.58`	`dylanm`	`Hiding stuff or something.`
`19:02.00`	`Shadowed`	`the only annoyance is that they didnt add the interrupt event`
`19:02.06`	`Shadowed`	`hiding stuff?`
`19:02.07`	`dylanm`	`I dunno AlexanderYoshi wants some comments.`
`19:02.15`	`dylanm`	`In #ej.`
`19:02.39`	`dylanm`	`Yeah that's a big one.`
`19:03.02`	`Vangual`	`don't see anymore if it was you that interrupted?`
`19:03.11`	`Shadowed`	`no don't see anymore if you interrupt someone else`
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`19:06.53`	`kd3`	`I'm still WTFing at seeing enchants I haven't hadin years...`
`19:08.20`	`Lunessa`	`kd3: wtf? What enchants? Oh, wait.. you mean on an old copy of yourself on a test realm?`
`19:08.28`	`kd3`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4976431205&sid=1#0`
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`19:09.57`	`Lunessa`	`Yeah, that's a WTF bug alrighty.`
`19:12.31`	`zenzelezz`	`next PTR you'll get your character copied... in it's level 15 form`
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`19:13.44`	`zenzelezz`	`god, why do people intervene with the Tethyr event in Theramore`
`19:14.02`	`zenzelezz`	`I failed the quest 7 minutes ago but people keep healing the NPCs and getting themselves killed :-po`
`19:14.03`	`zenzelezz`	`-o`
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`19:15.32`	`kd3`	`indignant bitching in /1 not stopping them?`
`19:15.50`	`zenzelezz`	`I don't do that when playing on secret alts`
`19:17.45`	`wereHamster`	`lua> t={1,2,3,4}; i=table.remove(t,3); table.insert(t, 1, i); pp(t);`
`19:17.45`	`lua_bot`	`wereHamster: { 3, 1, 2, 4 } (#1)`
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`19:55.26`	`nevcairiel`	`be careful or it kicks back`
`20:09.28`	`zenzelezz`	`I like the "new" Dustwallow`
`20:12.20`	`nymbia`	`what changed about dustwallow?`
`20:12.57`	`zenzelezz`	`more quests`
`20:13.00`	`Nechckn`	`zenzelezz you mean the 2/2.1 changes?`
`20:13.05`	`zenzelezz`	`yes`
`20:13.09`	`Shadowed`	`!seen Industrial`
`20:13.10`	`Nechckn`	`They really did a great job with it, I agree`
`20:13.13`	`Shadowed`	`~seen Industrial`
`20:13.14`	`purl`	`industrial <n=Industri@194.145.194.227> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 8d 11h 5m 36s ago, saying: ':p'.`
`20:13.14`	`Shadowed`	`stupid bot`
`20:13.14`	`zenzelezz`	`not 2 I think, but some later patch`
`20:13.39`	`Nechckn`	`yeah.. not 2... 2.2 I think`
`20:14.09`	`Nechckn`	`meh... either way, it used to be nearly worthless.. now it's about the easiest, 30-ish xp around`
`20:15.55`	`Lunessa`	`There are some scary f'ing people posting on my realm forum. They make kitty scared.`
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`20:28.13`	`Nechckn`	`Oh come now, you can't make a comment like that and not provide at least one example... =)`
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`20:33.35`	`Lunessa`	`April 21 - May 5`
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`20:34.56`	`Lunessa`	`bah.. sorry.. wrong app`
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`21:03.22`	`kd3`	`lua> 380*3`
`21:03.23`	`lua_bot`	`kd3: 1140`
`21:03.47`	`kd3`	`lua> 130/3`
`21:03.48`	`lua_bot`	`kd3: 43.333333333333`
`21:07.57`	`wereHamster`	`lua> 130/3 - 10/3`
`21:07.57`	`lua_bot`	`wereHamster: 40`
`21:08.08`	`wereHamster`	`damn, I fail -.-`
`21:11.18`	`zenzelezz`	`how so?`
`21:11.46`	`Fisker-`	`kd3`
`21:11.49`	`Fisker-`	`buff paladins`
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`21:12.57`	`wereHamster`	`zenzelezz, I wanted lua_bot to print 42, but 43.3 - 3.3 apparently isn't 42`
`21:13.25`	`zenzelezz`	`why would it be?`
`21:14.03`	`wereHamster`	`therefore, I fail ;)`
`21:18.49`	`cncfanatics`	`anyone know why I can't enable hardware mouse under wine ?`
`21:18.51`	`cncfanatics`	`its irritating :p`
`21:19.18`	`cncfanatics`	`lua> 42`
`21:19.19`	`lua_bot`	`cncfanatics: 42`
`21:19.55`	`wereHamster`	`cncfanatics, running the opengl or directx engine?`
`21:21.41`	`cogwheel`	`WTS the flu`
`21:22.26`	`wereHamster`	`this morning someone tried to sell hate, now flu, what's next?`
`21:22.40`	`Lunessa`	`cogwheel: WTExterminate the flu`
`21:23.07`	`cogwheel`	`Lunessa: i blame texas, btw`
`21:23.20`	`cogwheel`	`:P`
`21:23.22`	`Lunessa`	`Bah. You're the one running around in no jacket.`
`21:23.39`	`Lunessa`	`Your relative were all bundled up like Hell had frozen over.`
`21:25.15`	`cogwheel`	`they all have less.... erm... insulation.....`
`21:25.34`	`Lunessa`	`cough Compared to me, you're thin.`
`21:25.46`	`cogwheel`	`yeah... sorry about my mother in law`
`21:25.49`	`cogwheel`	`XD`
`21:25.58`	`Lunessa`	`Hah... She was a trip.`
`21:26.26`	`Lunessa`	`I'm just sorry we didn't get serious drinking time.`
`21:26.34`	`cogwheel`	`hehe`
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`21:33.55`	`Lunessa`	`We could have consumed large quantities of serious liquor and traded code late into the morning hours.`
`21:34.11`	`Lunessa`	`Played "Last Drunk Geek Standing."`
`21:34.15`	`cogwheel`	`hehe`
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`21:48.57`	`Fisker-`	`buff paladins kd3`
`21:51.24`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Ack, what's the function that returns the current time, millisecond precision?`
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`21:52.07`	`Cide`	`os.time()?`
`21:52.14`	`Cide`	`oh`
`21:52.16`	`wereHamster`	`GetTime()`
`21:52.17`	`Cide`	`GetTime() in wow`
`21:52.32`	`ScytheBlade1`	`GetTime() is system uptime :/`
`21:52.55`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Hmm, though, for this`
`21:52.58`	`ScytheBlade1`	`That would work`
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`22:43.08`	`Syzgyn`	`Let's say I want to get the level of a mob I'm aoe-ing, but I don't have the targetGUID to compare it to in the combat log. What would be the best way to get it?`
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`22:49.34`	`zenzelezz`	`it never dies...`
`22:49.47`	`zenzelezz`	`[2. Trade] [...]: Chuck Norris leaves messages BEFORE the beep!`
`22:50.21`	`zenzelezz`	`[2. Trade] [...]: Chuck Norris's calendar jumps from 31st March to 2nd April, because nobody fools Chuck Norris`
`22:52.00`	`Syzgyn`	`those are new ones to me, pretty good`
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`22:54.03`	`Corrodias`	`i like those`
`22:54.08`	`Qzot`	`Heyo.`
`22:59.26`	`Qzot`	`Any algorithm trolls around right now?`
`23:00.07`	`Fisker-`	`Only regular trolls here`
`23:00.21`	`Syzgyn`	`hey, what was that xml file on the armor that had all the unitID's of boss mobs?`
`23:00.29`	`Syzgyn`	`armory*`
`23:00.42`	`Fisker-`	`yourMother.xml`
`23:00.42`	`Fisker-`	`hoho`
`23:00.45`	`Fisker-`	`i am having fun`
`23:00.52`	`Syzgyn`	`you're so clever`
`23:01.01`	`Syzgyn`	`please, teach me how to be as clever as you`
`23:01.02`	`Fisker-`	`quite so`
`23:01.21`	`Fisker-`	`Buzz Killington :<`
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