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00:00.29 | Syzgyn | I almost want to listen to it again and try to hear the bass, but not enough to care :P |
00:01.14 | WobWork | Syzgyn: one sec |
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00:03.37 | WobWork | Syzgyn: http://imgs.xkcd.com/blag/xkcd_389.mp3 |
00:04.41 | Syzgyn | ahh yes, I hear it now |
00:05.55 | Syzgyn | OT: Is there a guide somewhere to using conditionals in wiki templates? |
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00:07.20 | WobWork | we have on topic discussions here? |
00:07.21 | kd3 | http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Parser_function |
00:07.51 | kd3 | better: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:ParserFunctions |
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00:15.58 | Shirik | batrick: ping |
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00:18.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm. Adding an RSS feed may not be that hard.. |
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00:20.04 | batrick | sup |
00:20.41 | batrick | Shirik: i gotta run is it quick? |
00:21.53 | batrick | bah bbl |
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00:24.48 | Guillotine | whoo! my USB watch arrived! |
00:25.46 | ScytheBlade1 | ... lol |
00:25.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Grats? ;) |
00:25.53 | ScytheBlade1 | (link!) |
00:26.00 | Guillotine | They sent the wrong bumper sticker though :( |
00:26.12 | Guillotine | http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/watches/9771/ |
00:26.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, that's actually hot |
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00:27.44 | Guillotine | yah, 2gigs, and its not too expensive |
00:27.49 | Guillotine | and it actually looks really good |
00:27.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, the price surprises me |
00:27.54 | ScytheBlade1 | I just might get one now, lol |
00:28.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Seperate battery, or USB charged? |
00:28.25 | Guillotine | The watch itself has a battery, the USB uses the USB power |
00:28.29 | Guillotine | so estimated 3 year battery life |
00:28.45 | Guillotine | which is as good as most normal watches |
00:28.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Easy to replace the battery, or do you end up shipping it somewhere to be replaced? |
00:29.10 | Guillotine | looks like just any place that changes watch batteries |
00:29.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Awesome |
00:29.14 | Guillotine | or you if you have the tools to open it up |
00:29.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
00:29.27 | Guillotine | Just needs those wierd SUPER small screwdrivers |
00:29.37 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got some, actually |
00:29.45 | ScytheBlade1 | We bought em' to fix some glasses |
00:29.55 | WobWork | It's not a bad looking watch |
00:31.31 | Shirik | yeah I have some too |
00:31.35 | Shirik | LensCrafters gave them to me |
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00:31.44 | Shirik | I guess they figured I don't take care of my glasses |
00:31.47 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
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00:35.15 | Legorol | morning |
00:35.17 | Legorol | lol @ quote in topic |
00:40.18 | Guillotine | Strange though... the user manual on this watch says not to get it wet while the thinkgeek page says "Water resistant to 20 meters (let USB connector dry before using)" o.O |
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00:41.47 | Guillotine | wow, its actually really comfortable |
00:42.45 | Corrodias | that's what your mom said |
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00:50.37 | Nechckn_BetaNow | Guillotine nice that you decided on one- hope it serves you well. =) |
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00:57.46 | Guillotine | Hmm, this watch seems to have slow write speeds. It says 6 MB/sec, but it seems to be more like 6 secs/MB |
00:57.47 | Guillotine | at least |
00:58.30 | Guillotine | oh, |
00:58.40 | Guillotine | I wonder if for some reason I don't have USB 2.0 enabled on this computer |
00:58.42 | fromatz | will the lua bot work for everyone? |
00:59.37 | kd3 | sure. |
00:59.40 | fromatz | lua> t = {}; table.insert(t, 1, 4); table.insert(t, 1, 6); print(t); |
00:59.41 | lua_bot | fromatz: table: 0x630fc0 |
00:59.41 | kd3 | lua> print('hello world'); |
00:59.42 | lua_bot | kd3: hello world |
00:59.54 | fromatz | ahhh i dont want hex |
01:00.09 | ScytheBlade1 | wtf, I hate PHP + sqlite |
01:00.11 | Guillotine | well, you asked it to print the table. Since tables are stored as addresses instead of values... |
01:00.20 | fromatz | yeah |
01:00.30 | Shirik | fromatz: use pp() |
01:00.43 | ScytheBlade1 | .... oh, I'm just noob |
01:00.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Never mind! |
01:00.55 | Shirik | lua> t = {}; table.insert(t,1,4); table.insert(t,1,6); pp(t) |
01:00.55 | lua_bot | Shirik: { 6, 4 } (#1) |
01:01.15 | fromatz | man i hate that it doesnt destroy what is in index 1 |
01:01.20 | Shirik | uh |
01:01.25 | Shirik | why wouldn't you just do t[1] = 6; then? |
01:01.35 | fromatz | im using table insert in my addon |
01:01.41 | Shirik | yeah... why? |
01:01.47 | Shirik | if that's not what you want, don't use it |
01:01.53 | fromatz | i dont know, it was the first table insertion i looked at |
01:02.12 | fromatz | ill probably change it though, and just do something like [i%50]+1 |
01:02.15 | Shirik | lua> t = {}; t[1] = 4; t[1] = 6; pp(t); |
01:02.15 | lua_bot | Shirik: { 6 } (#1) |
01:02.16 | fromatz | for the table size |
01:02.57 | WobWork | er |
01:03.33 | WobWork | using table.insert(t,1, v) inserts it into the first position and pushes all other values down an index |
01:03.39 | fromatz | yeah |
01:03.43 | WobWork | that's what the spec says |
01:03.46 | fromatz | is there a reason for that though? |
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01:03.52 | WobWork | it's certainly not ambiguous about it |
01:03.59 | WobWork | Cause you're -inserting- into a table |
01:04.09 | WobWork | inserting implies non-destruction |
01:04.20 | fromatz | yeah.. |
01:04.25 | WobWork | fromatz: Have you read PiL? |
01:04.44 | fromatz | some |
01:04.58 | WobWork | once you understand how tables work, it might help out |
01:05.23 | fromatz | i think im pretty good now that i know insert is non destructive |
01:06.12 | fromatz | ill just change the method in which i insert data |
01:06.14 | WobWork | It's just that that action is described in the function itself, so I'm at a loss at how you could have missed it |
01:07.06 | fromatz | oh, i never looked at the implementation of insert, i just assumed it would overwrite |
01:07.21 | WobWork | yes |
01:07.28 | WobWork | well that's why I suggest you read PiL |
01:07.48 | WobWork | It might save you headaches in the future |
01:08.11 | fromatz | probably, ill bookmark it, thanks |
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01:09.32 | Shirik | fromatz: I think using the table library without knowing table basics is a horrible idea |
01:09.37 | Shirik | I strongly encourage reading PiL first |
01:10.51 | fromatz | its basically the same an array it seems |
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01:15.26 | Legorol | i think the word "insert" implies non-destructive in the first place |
01:15.48 | WobWork | That's what I said =P |
01:15.48 | Legorol | i haven't encountered many situations where "inserting" something caused existing entries/items/things to disappear, be it inserting a card in a deck or whatever |
01:16.26 | WobWork | Inserting coins into a one armed bandit often results in the money disappearing =( |
01:17.14 | Legorol | rofl |
01:17.21 | AnduinLothar | unless you're inserting into a stack with a limit that has already been reached |
01:17.26 | Legorol | it's disappearing into a growing pot of the owner ;-) |
01:18.01 | Shirik | Legorol: Inserting coins into my school's vending machine makes them disappear |
01:18.11 | Shirik | then you call them and they're like "prove it" and I'm like "wtf" |
01:18.15 | Shirik | then I give up because it's only $1 |
01:18.40 | AnduinLothar | sounds liek the one in my HS bandroom |
01:18.58 | AnduinLothar | you couldn't actually give it money so kids would routinely steal from it |
01:19.33 | ScytheBlade1 | for ($i = 0, $i < count($items); $i++) { |
01:19.36 | ScytheBlade1 | screw you, lua |
01:19.38 | ScytheBlade1 | screw you |
01:20.04 | AnduinLothar | for x,y in pairs(items) do ? |
01:20.04 | Shirik | ? |
01:20.09 | Shirik | That looks more like php than Lua |
01:20.13 | ScytheBlade1 | It is PHP |
01:20.17 | ScytheBlade1 | It's lua breaking my PHP |
01:20.25 | ScytheBlade1 | :( |
01:20.27 | ScytheBlade1 | *lua syntax |
01:20.34 | Shirik | oh haha |
01:20.35 | Shirik | comma? |
01:20.42 | Shirik | I missed that |
01:20.43 | WobWork | epoch fail =) |
01:20.47 | Shirik | It's not too bad though ScytheBlade1 |
01:21.02 | Shirik | I've had Java screw up my IRC chat :( |
01:21.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, comma |
01:21.17 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
01:21.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Smooth |
01:23.15 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/83128 |
01:23.19 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: look at line 96 |
01:24.29 | AnduinLothar | does HoW interrupt pally swing timer? |
01:25.51 | AnduinLothar | reset* |
01:26.25 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
01:26.25 | ScytheBlade1 | nice |
01:29.03 | AlexanderYoshi | yeah i think so |
01:29.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: in your defense, with a switch block that big, I'd be doing the same thing |
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01:42.21 | Shirik | it was also something like 4 AM |
01:42.30 | Shirik | so yeah |
01:46.31 | art3mis | http://www.rlslog.net/new-vista-update-sniffs-for-pirated-copies/ |
01:48.11 | Shirik | I don't get it |
01:48.21 | ScytheBlade1 | For the record, I have no life |
01:48.23 | ScytheBlade1 | http://files.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/Patches/PTR/patchnotes/ptr.rdf |
01:48.25 | Shirik | so they're just running around telling people if they have a cracked version, and not doing anything about it? |
01:48.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Have an RSS feed of the PTR patchnote diffs |
01:48.34 | ScytheBlade1 | ^______________^ |
01:48.38 | kd3 | lmao |
01:48.39 | AlexanderYoshi | wow |
01:48.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Auto updated every three hours. |
01:48.57 | ScytheBlade1 | (Might be two) |
01:48.59 | Shirik | an RSS feed that does not work well on Windows, more accurately |
01:49.09 | ScytheBlade1 | No? |
01:49.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Works here |
01:49.15 | Shirik | apparently you're not using \r\n? |
01:49.18 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl |
01:49.19 | Shirik | Because I see one huge line |
01:49.20 | ScytheBlade1 | No, screw that |
01:49.25 | Shirik | haha |
01:49.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, that's your feed reader |
01:49.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, let me poke |
01:49.45 | Shirik | is just firefox, fyi |
01:49.53 | Shirik | but I agree with what it's doing |
01:50.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm |
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01:52.21 | AlexanderYoshi | and stay out! |
01:52.32 | kd3 | anyone want to go kill the loot pinatas that are brutallus and felmyst? |
01:52.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: refresh and try again |
01:53.28 | Shirik | no difference |
01:53.33 | Shirik | maybe it's just the reader being stupid then |
01:53.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm |
01:53.42 | ScytheBlade1 | One of my readers (akregator) works |
01:53.49 | ScytheBlade1 | The other (liferea) does the block o' text thing too |
01:53.53 | kd3 | lifarea's just displaying a wall o text |
01:53.54 | kd3 | bah |
01:53.55 | Shirik | It may be trying to HTML-ize it |
01:54.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Nah. It's in a CDATA block. |
01:54.11 | Shirik | and considering HTML ignores whitespace (generally) |
01:54.11 | Shirik | oh |
01:54.16 | Shirik | wait but that shouldn't matter? |
01:54.27 | Shirik | all that means is to ignore <, >, &, etc? |
01:54.28 | ScytheBlade1 | CDATA means "don't parse, take this as raw text" |
01:54.34 | ScytheBlade1 | View the source, lol |
01:54.51 | Shirik | okay then |
01:54.53 | Shirik | so much for that idea |
01:56.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Ha, got it |
01:56.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Reload your feeds |
01:56.51 | Shirik | looks good to me |
01:57.05 | Shirik | that's a strange diff format though |
01:57.06 | Shirik | what is that? |
01:57.23 | ScytheBlade1 | diff -Naur |
01:57.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Also note it's doing automated diffs of the website HTML |
01:57.56 | ScytheBlade1 | On the bright side |
01:57.59 | ScytheBlade1 | It works! yay! |
01:58.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Automated diffs of the notes, preseted to you in RSS/RDF form. |
01:58.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Using: bash, diff, scp, php, and sqlite |
01:59.05 | kd3 | sweet |
01:59.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, and cron |
01:59.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Hourly diffs! |
01:59.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Excuse me while I off myself and then find a girlfriend |
01:59.45 | ScytheBlade1 | afk |
01:59.57 | ckknight | AlexanderYoshi: I can has ur babies? |
02:00.03 | AlexanderYoshi | What did I do? |
02:00.14 | ckknight | probably something cool, though |
02:00.21 | AlexanderYoshi | Tell you what, bring me a cute girl and she can have my babies |
02:00.25 | AlexanderYoshi | And you can raise them |
02:00.42 | ckknight | not sure I agree with this plan of action |
02:00.50 | ckknight | let's reconvene with proper papers at a later date |
02:01.07 | AlexanderYoshi | Then I guess you can't have my babies |
02:01.17 | Antiarc | UnitGUID makes me very happy :) |
02:01.19 | Antiarc | Thanks! |
02:01.21 | ckknight | me too |
02:01.24 | AlexanderYoshi | You're welcome |
02:01.27 | ckknight | can I request crazy stuff from you? |
02:01.49 | AlexanderYoshi | No, blew all of my latency powerz to get UnitGUId |
02:01.57 | ckknight | like GetMobName("mobid") (where "mobid" is the part of the guid that is unique per mob-type) |
02:02.00 | ckknight | srsly? |
02:02.01 | ckknight | dang. |
02:02.19 | ckknight | cause I'd really love GetMobName, it'd mean I'd no longer need to deal with Babble-Boss |
02:02.26 | ckknight | you know how often the Chinese break that thing? |
02:02.38 | AlexanderYoshi | yes |
02:02.45 | ckknight | constantly. |
02:02.45 | AlexanderYoshi | thats why you got non localized combat events |
02:03.03 | ckknight | much appreciated |
02:03.10 | AlexanderYoshi | whats missinh |
02:03.13 | ckknight | but being able to get the name from just the id would be so nice |
02:03.16 | Antiarc | AlexanderYoshi: Config menus |
02:03.28 | Antiarc | You can't create a list of boss names in a config menus with just NPC IDs |
02:03.37 | Antiarc | So you have to maintian localization libs |
02:03.40 | ckknight | right, menus need the names, you can't just use ids |
02:03.51 | ckknight | e.g. BigWigs |
02:03.55 | ckknight | so that you can turn on/off modules |
02:03.58 | AlexanderYoshi | what's big wigs? |
02:04.02 | sag_ich_nicht | AlexanderYoshi: a bossmod |
02:04.05 | pastamancer | but I killed boss 2345342 last week! |
02:04.05 | Antiarc | Deadly Boss Mods competitor |
02:04.12 | AlexanderYoshi | ahhh |
02:04.24 | Shirik | What is "xemacs"? |
02:04.32 | Shirik | An X wrapper for emacs? |
02:04.32 | ckknight | Shirik: emacs but for x11 |
02:04.35 | Shirik | ah |
02:04.44 | pastamancer | no, xemacs is a non-gnu emacs |
02:04.51 | pastamancer | it used to be lucid emacs |
02:04.58 | pastamancer | but they changed the name |
02:05.06 | sag_ich_nicht | xemacs is the fork of emacs that doesn't suck like emacs itself does. |
02:05.09 | Shirik | I was confused because one of thel ines says |
02:05.11 | Shirik | [ebuild N ] app-editors/xemacs-21.4.21 USE="gdbm gpm -X -Xaw3d -athena -berkdb -canna -dnd -eolconv -esd -freewnn -gif -jpeg -ldap -motif -mule -nas -neXt -png -pop -postgres -tiff -xface -xim" 8,177 kB |
02:05.22 | Shirik | and I'm like "xemacs" ... isn't that an X wrapper... with -X option? |
02:05.32 | Shirik | makes more sense now pastamancer thanks |
02:05.34 | ckknight | in any event, AlexanderYoshi, I'd appreciate if you think about it, and I must reinstate your status as a pimp |
02:05.38 | ckknight | time to go home methinks |
02:05.48 | AlexanderYoshi | I'll consiter it |
02:05.49 | AlexanderYoshi | consider |
02:06.27 | pastamancer | I'm pretty happy with gnu emacs 22.1 |
02:06.45 | Shirik | I'm happy with vim |
02:06.46 | Shirik | :P |
02:06.51 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm happy with ed |
02:06.59 | AlexanderYoshi | should I be looking for hate mail from ckknight from 2 years ago? |
02:07.01 | ckknight | I like TextMate |
02:07.05 | Shirik | li23-154 wowiupdater # ed |
02:07.05 | Shirik | bash: ed: command not found |
02:07.10 | ckknight | AlexanderYoshi: I typically work faster than that |
02:07.10 | Funkeh` | AlexanderYoshi, I'm one of the bigwigs authors, and basically what we use the babble-boss translation library for is to enable a boss module (via mouseover) and for the menus. The former is already sorted, having some kind of query for localized boss names would mean we can rid of that need of localization basically. Minus another library |
02:07.20 | ckknight | AlexanderYoshi: also, gotta get you before the weekend |
02:08.34 | AlexanderYoshi | why not just have the authors hard-code the names for each boss? |
02:09.02 | kd3 | whuh? "epic difficulty mode". thought we weren't supposed to be able to do that yet |
02:09.03 | sag_ich_nicht | AlexanderYoshi: because enUS esES deDE zhCN frFR ruRU do you want me to continue? |
02:09.17 | WobWork | <3 vim |
02:09.18 | Antiarc | kd3: You can do it on live, too |
02:09.20 | Antiarc | With a script command |
02:09.28 | AlexanderYoshi | correct me if I'm wrong but |
02:09.37 | AlexanderYoshi | if you're going to announce Kael'thas Phase 2 |
02:09.47 | AlexanderYoshi | You need to look for a localized string "Let the games begin" et |
02:09.48 | AlexanderYoshi | etc |
02:09.55 | WobWork | In their language? |
02:09.57 | AlexanderYoshi | and those msut be defined for each language anyways |
02:09.57 | Funkeh` | right |
02:10.02 | Funkeh` | ys |
02:10.08 | Funkeh` | yes* |
02:10.09 | Antiarc | Babble-Boss only stores mob names, not their speech |
02:10.15 | Funkeh` | but we don't need a library for that |
02:10.18 | Antiarc | Speech is usually localized per-module, not in a library. |
02:10.18 | AlexanderYoshi | at that point, you can just copy and paste the boss's name |
02:10.38 | Funkeh` | AlexanderYoshi, let me give you an eaxmple of what I mean |
02:10.38 | WobWork | until someone in the raid yells: "Let the games begin" |
02:10.53 | WobWork | and then everyone kills Munter3 |
02:11.03 | sag_ich_nicht | AlexanderYoshi: you need to load that module tho |
02:11.14 | sag_ich_nicht | AlexanderYoshi: so you load the module once someone targets the boss, not before that, to save memory |
02:11.18 | Antiarc | WobWork: That's why you look for NPC speech events :P |
02:11.37 | WobWork | Antiarc: I once wrote a parrot NPC on a MUD |
02:11.42 | sag_ich_nicht | AlexanderYoshi: wait now i get what you mean |
02:11.43 | WobWork | You could train it to repeat phrases |
02:11.49 | WobWork | or it would pick up random text from other npcs |
02:12.09 | WobWork | (inserting appropriate 'awks') |
02:12.25 | WobWork | man. LPC was great |
02:12.35 | WobWork | You could do so much with it =) |
02:12.49 | kd3 | crap! the sunblade protectors see through invis now. |
02:13.07 | AlexanderYoshi | hot |
02:13.08 | AlexanderYoshi | go team |
02:13.57 | Funkeh` | AlexanderYoshi, http://media.curse.com/adjust_images/resize/750x500/16/151.jpg shows the current menu system, which needs to be accessible before you even encounter a boos |
02:14.26 | Antiarc | Note that it's backwards :P |
02:14.31 | Antiarc | Read right to left. |
02:14.42 | Funkeh` | yeah |
02:15.10 | AlexanderYoshi | Hmmm |
02:15.21 | AlexanderYoshi | I dunno, still seems like you could just include a string for each boss |
02:15.36 | AlexanderYoshi | the module has to register something, right? |
02:15.38 | Antiarc | One string per locale per boss :) |
02:15.43 | AlexanderYoshi | right |
02:15.48 | Antiarc | The module can register the NPC ID now |
02:15.52 | Antiarc | (I do this in Threat-2.0) |
02:16.06 | Antiarc | Because you can parse the GUID for the NPC ID, which is obviously locale-independent |
02:16.11 | AlexanderYoshi | doesn't it need to load to be registered? |
02:16.22 | Funkeh` | yes, but I don't do this as it is pointless to change it from the current system, unles we can eliminate babble boss eniterely Antiarc |
02:16.55 | Antiarc | Sorta. Threat-2.0 registers a function which takes a table and populates it with the proper handlers, basically constructing modules on the fly. |
02:17.06 | AlexanderYoshi | As a general philosophy, I am extremely wary of allowing GUIDs for input to the lua code at any level |
02:17.21 | AlexanderYoshi | For that reason, I would have to say "no, not right now: |
02:17.23 | AlexanderYoshi | " |
02:17.35 | Funkeh` | it doesn't even need to be guid's to be perfecty honest |
02:17.48 | Funkeh` | it could be something Like GetBossName("englishName") |
02:17.59 | Funkeh` | to return the localized out |
02:18.04 | Funkeh` | one* |
02:18.10 | AlexanderYoshi | The issue there is that boss names are stored on the server |
02:18.23 | AlexanderYoshi | so that would require extra bandwidth expense |
02:18.38 | AlexanderYoshi | And not many people can sign off on those kinds of costs.. |
02:18.59 | Funkeh` | hmm |
02:19.04 | AlexanderYoshi | Sorry, but no. :( |
02:19.04 | sag_ich_nicht | i am pretty sure you could cache that on instance entry, once, then have it stored locally. |
02:19.25 | AlexanderYoshi | then his addon wouldn't work outside of that raid |
02:19.28 | AlexanderYoshi | defeating the purpose of the change |
02:19.35 | Funkeh` | Well Im open to suggestins, I would acept a query to anything that would return a localized name :/ |
02:19.53 | AlexanderYoshi | I agree, dealing with localization sucks |
02:20.01 | AlexanderYoshi | It was huge when we added german to cosmos |
02:20.07 | AlexanderYoshi | it cost a lot of time to devise a standard |
02:20.10 | AlexanderYoshi | and put it into general use |
02:20.24 | AlexanderYoshi | Then a lot more time to maintain it |
02:21.03 | AlexanderYoshi | Look at it this way: a localized name in your addon indicates its "ready for use", where as an english name makes it clear its not |
02:21.32 | Antiarc | Either that or "You'd better speak English" :P |
02:21.42 | AlexanderYoshi | Haha |
02:21.56 | AlexanderYoshi | watakushi no nihongo ha heta desu. |
02:22.03 | Antiarc | I think the hope is just to get away from relying on translaters for the most part. Funkeh` isn't kidding when he says the Chinese localizers manage to break things constantly :P |
02:22.12 | AlexanderYoshi | I know |
02:22.16 | AlexanderYoshi | I deal with it on my side too :) |
02:22.24 | Antiarc | Heheh. |
02:22.27 | AlexanderYoshi | It's rough! |
02:22.30 | Funkeh` | AlexanderYoshi, I just want rid of things like this http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/LibBabble-Boss-3.0/LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua |
02:22.45 | Antiarc | Man, that is a bigass file. |
02:22.55 | sag_ich_nicht | no shit sherlock? |
02:22.56 | sag_ich_nicht | :> |
02:23.04 | AlexanderYoshi | Heheh, the guy who did QuestHelper would agree with you |
02:23.08 | sag_ich_nicht | and guess what? |
02:23.15 | AlexanderYoshi | but we're not giving him arbitrary NPC loc lookups ;) |
02:23.28 | Funkeh` | yeah, a query to a boss name could be maintained within the boss module, keeping it LoD, with that library I need to load everything, loading AQ bosses.... |
02:23.46 | sag_ich_nicht | we have to load it twice because of slow and stuck addon authors: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua |
02:23.47 | Antiarc | AlexanderYoshi: Can I get a UnitGiveLeetGear("unitid") call? |
02:24.03 | Shirik | rofl |
02:24.05 | Shirik | don't push your luck |
02:24.08 | Drundia | So how would you deal with boss names and GUIDs when GUIDs might as well end up being reset if boss despawns and respawns between tries? |
02:24.13 | sag_ich_nicht | btw. Funkeh` |
02:24.22 | Antiarc | Drundia: The GUID contains an NPC ID that doesn't change |
02:24.25 | AlexanderYoshi | Consider it implemented |
02:24.26 | Antiarc | Even across multiple GUIDs |
02:24.29 | sag_ich_nicht | you could fix the babble-3.0/babble-2.2 compatibility layer |
02:24.41 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
02:24.44 | AlexanderYoshi | UnitGiveLeetGear("unitid") will now work after recieving 100% gear |
02:24.49 | AlexanderYoshi | and running this script |
02:24.56 | AlexanderYoshi | UnitGiveLeetGear = LootUnit |
02:25.12 | AlexanderYoshi | er after dealing 100% of the creature;s life as damage |
02:25.26 | Shirik | anyone remember that website that lets you sandbox your character? |
02:25.42 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik: yeah. stop using a website and install the wowequip addon. |
02:25.46 | AlexanderYoshi | bye bye |
02:25.48 | sag_ich_nicht | wastely superior |
02:25.49 | Shirik | no that's not what I want it |
02:25.50 | Antiarc | Later |
02:25.53 | sag_ich_nicht | bye |
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02:26.08 | Funkeh` | AlexanderYoshi, another wild stab, is there a reason why there isn't a similar function for zone names? i.e. GetZoneName(id) |
02:26.14 | Funkeh` | heh |
02:26.19 | Guillotine | thats why I get my users to localize my AddOns for me |
02:26.42 | sag_ich_nicht | Guillotine: is that also why TellTrack is still not working properly in combination with notes-u-need? :P |
02:26.56 | Guillotine | no, thats just because I |
02:27.00 | Guillotine | I'm too busy |
02:27.07 | sag_ich_nicht | uhu. |
02:27.10 | Guillotine | to maintain other people's addons as well as my own :( |
02:28.06 | Guillotine | How are they incompatible? |
02:28.20 | Guillotine | I actually don't know that I've heard this bug report before |
02:29.11 | Guillotine | if its just really -not working-, I'll try to look into it |
02:29.18 | Guillotine | but if its a small bug... |
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02:40.35 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
02:40.47 | ScytheBlade1 | At least it's female...? |
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02:47.45 | Shirik | Anyone here know japanese? |
02:48.12 | Shirik | "If there's a change in you..." shouldn't that be "kimi ga kawareba" not "kimi wa kawareba" ? |
02:48.35 | Legorol | i know japanese, and yes, it should be "ga" |
02:48.41 | Shirik | thanks |
02:48.52 | Shirik | guess I can't trust these lyrics then |
02:49.01 | Legorol | the sentence has meaning with "wa" as well, just means something else |
02:49.07 | Shirik | yeah |
02:49.27 | Shirik | I think it would be "If you change ... <whatever to follow>" ? |
02:49.34 | Legorol | nope |
02:49.38 | Legorol | the difference is more subtle |
02:49.41 | Shirik | meh |
02:49.50 | Legorol | it's always your change in either case |
02:49.51 | Shirik | I need to get back my japanese knowledge |
02:50.00 | Legorol | i think best illustrated with examples: |
02:50.05 | |pez| | I need to *get* japanese knowledge |
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02:50.22 | Legorol | hmmm hard to come up with clear examples that'd illustrate the difference |
02:50.33 | Sparky911 | hi |
02:50.42 | Legorol | ok i think this will work: |
02:50.50 | Sparky911 | was wondering if someone would be able to help a coding noob out :) |
02:51.14 | Legorol | "kimi ga kawareba, ..." -> "If it's you that changes, ... will happen" |
02:51.27 | Legorol | "kimi wa kawareba, ..." -> "If you change, ... will happen" |
02:51.48 | Shirik | that works |
02:51.50 | Legorol | the difference is in emphasis |
02:51.50 | Shirik | Sparky911: |
02:51.52 | Shirik | ~asktoask |
02:51.52 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
02:51.56 | Shirik | thanks Legorol |
02:52.35 | Legorol | going from english to japanese, i'd definitely translate the original english sentence you quoted with "ga" |
02:52.39 | Sparky911 | I am trying to filter out words like when someone types "test" it tells me but I don't want it to tell me test was typed when someone types "testing" |
02:53.42 | Legorol | try and filter for " test " |
02:53.46 | Legorol | including the spaces |
02:53.55 | Legorol | or other non-character stuff |
02:54.23 | dylanm | We're talking Lua here/ |
02:54.24 | Legorol | hm, i guess that wouldn't work too well |
02:54.28 | Sparky911 | so if the word is at the begining of the sentence just use "Test "? |
02:54.29 | Maul | use lua pattern matching to check for non-alpha charcters around "test" - "%Atest%A" |
02:54.32 | Shirik | I'd use a pattern like "%Wtest%W" |
02:54.50 | Legorol | the problem with using non-word pattern matching is that it won't match "test" |
02:54.55 | Shirik | yeah |
02:54.58 | Shirik | I recognized that too |
02:54.58 | Legorol | it will match " test " etc. |
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02:55.24 | Sparky911 | %w stands for space? |
02:55.27 | Shirik | this would definitely be an easy job for PCRE |
02:55.33 | Shirik | Sparky911: No, %w stands for word character |
02:55.33 | Legorol | %w is word character |
02:55.38 | Legorol | %W is non-word charactr |
02:55.39 | Sparky911 | oh ok |
02:55.42 | Shirik | %W is everything %w is not |
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02:56.23 | Thrae|Work | lua> print( string.find("test", "%W*test%W*") ) |
02:56.23 | lua_bot | Thrae|Work: 1, 4 |
02:56.35 | dylanm | That'll do. |
02:56.37 | Legorol | doesn't work |
02:56.48 | Legorol | lua> print( string.find("testing", "%W*test%W*") ) |
02:56.48 | lua_bot | Legorol: 1, 4 |
02:56.48 | Legorol | see? |
02:56.48 | dylanm | Oh wait no it won't. |
02:57.04 | Thrae|Work | Odd |
02:57.09 | Legorol | no it's not odd |
02:57.13 | Thrae|Work | It wasn't greedy enough |
02:57.24 | Shirik | %W* |
02:57.25 | Shirik | er |
02:57.25 | Shirik | sorry |
02:57.29 | Legorol | it succeeds in matching %W*test%W* inside, because it can successfully match "test" surrounded by 0 or more non-word chars |
02:57.31 | dylanm | There are word-boundary things in PCRE but clearly... |
02:57.31 | Shirik | hand fell on the keyboard in the wrong place >< |
02:57.40 | Shirik | Oh of course!!! |
02:57.44 | Shirik | This is a perfect job for %f I think |
02:57.51 | Shirik | but I still haven't remembered quite how to use that |
02:57.53 | Legorol | %f? |
02:57.58 | Legorol | is that in Lua? |
02:58.02 | Shirik | I don't even think it's in the manual |
02:58.03 | Shirik | but it exists |
02:58.07 | Thrae|Work | lua> print( string.match("testing", "%W-test%W-") ) |
02:58.07 | lua_bot | Thrae|Work: test |
02:58.09 | Shirik | it's some kind of undocumented feature |
02:58.21 | dylanm | The best kind! |
02:58.32 | Legorol | there is no %f |
02:58.33 | Shirik | http://lua-users.org/wiki/FrontierPattern |
02:58.33 | WobWork | I can vaugely recall that |
02:58.50 | Syzgyn | This is wonderful. My internet isnt letting me log on my Realm, and wont let me connect to their website to find a call number eith! |
02:58.51 | Legorol | huh? |
02:58.56 | Shirik | "The frontier pattern %f followed by a set detects the transition from "not in set" to "in set". The source string boundary qualifies as "not in set" so it also matches the word at the very start of the string to be matched." |
02:59.03 | Maul | for my chat addon, I take a typed line and use this function to put all words into a table, then use the table to determine if what I want is there - gsub(msg, "(%S+%s*)", function(word) table.insert(wordTable, word) end); |
02:59.11 | WobWork | oh that's right |
02:59.20 | Shirik | I think it's |
02:59.28 | Shirik | %f[%w]test%f[%w] |
02:59.29 | Shirik | Try that |
02:59.58 | Legorol | surely then it's %f%wtest%f%W |
03:00.11 | Sparky911 | test realm is down? :( |
03:00.15 | kd3 | whee, looks like cross-region PTRs are finally going live tomorrow |
03:00.26 | kd3 | Sparky911, yes: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4976339901&sid=1 |
03:00.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Good times |
03:00.30 | WobWork | lua> print( string.match("testing", "%f[%w]test%f[%w]")) |
03:00.31 | lua_bot | WobWork: nil |
03:00.33 | Shirik | lua> return (string.find("test", "%f[%w]test%f[%w]")), (string.find("testing", "%f[%w]test%f[%w]")), (string.find("hi this is a test, cool huh", "%f[%w]test%f[%w]")) |
03:00.33 | lua_bot | Shirik: nil, nil, nil |
03:00.37 | Shirik | hm |
03:00.38 | Shirik | maybe not |
03:00.41 | WobWork | lua> print( string.match("test", "%f[%w]test%f[%w]")) |
03:00.41 | lua_bot | WobWork: nil |
03:00.47 | Thrae|Work | lua> print( string.match("test", "%f[%w]+test%f[%w]+") ) |
03:00.47 | lua_bot | Thrae|Work: nil |
03:00.52 | Shirik | oh whoop |
03:01.04 | Shirik | lua> return (string.find("test", "%f[%w]test%f[%W]")), (string.find("testing", "%f[%w]test%f[%W]")), (string.find("hi this is a test, cool huh", "%f[%w]test%f[%W]")) |
03:01.04 | lua_bot | Shirik: 1, nil, 14 |
03:01.06 | Shirik | yey! |
03:01.19 | Shirik | Sparky911: That pattern should work |
03:01.23 | Shirik | %f[%w]test%f[%W] |
03:01.27 | Legorol | lua> print(string.match("testing","%f%wtest%f%W")) |
03:01.27 | lua_bot | Legorol: luabot:1: missing '[' after '%f' in pattern |
03:01.31 | Legorol | hmm |
03:01.36 | Shirik | I think they require that Legorol |
03:01.43 | Thrae|Work | lua> print( string.match("test", "%f[%w]+test%f[%W]+") ) print( string.match("testing", "%f[%w]+test%f[%W]+") ) |
03:01.43 | lua_bot | Thrae|Work: nil, nil |
03:01.50 | Sparky911 | k this is what i have right now |
03:01.50 | Sparky911 | if (string.find(fmessage, value) ~= nil) then |
03:01.54 | Legorol | but i never heard of [%w] being a valid syntax for set definition |
03:02.02 | Legorol | and using undocumented features is meh :/ |
03:02.13 | Shirik | The reason it's undocumented is because they aren't sure they want to keep it |
03:02.23 | Shirik | something about it being unnecessary or something, haven't looked into detail why |
03:02.28 | Shirik | but it is definitely a nice feature; I hope they keep it |
03:02.38 | Thrae|Work | lua> print( string.match("test", "%f+[%w]test%f+[%W]") ) print( string.match("testing", "%f+[%w]test%f+[%W]") ) |
03:02.38 | lua_bot | Thrae|Work: luabot:1: missing '[' after '%f' in pattern |
03:02.49 | Shirik | Thrae|Work: What exactly are you trying to do? |
03:02.57 | Shirik | Doesn't make much sense to repeat a boundary, it would be impossible |
03:03.14 | Dezzimal | whats with the new default pitbull fonts :/ |
03:03.29 | Thrae|Work | lua> print( string.match("this is a testing ", "%f[%w]test%f[%W]") ) print( string.match("this is a test ", "%f[%w]test%f[%W]") ) |
03:03.29 | lua_bot | Thrae|Work: nil, test |
03:03.49 | Thrae|Work | Ah, just making sure it occurs for more then one non-alphanumeric character |
03:04.05 | Shirik | yup, it does, because what it's checking is to see if you are at the border of going from out-of-set to in-set |
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03:04.26 | Shirik | so all that matters is the non-alphanumeric character immediately adjacent |
03:04.27 | Legorol | lua> print(string.match("testing","%W?test%W?")) |
03:04.28 | lua_bot | Legorol: test |
03:05.19 | Shirik | problem with that would be... |
03:05.36 | Legorol | lua> m=string.match("testing","%w?test%w?"); if(m=="test")then print("found it") end |
03:05.36 | lua_bot | Legorol: No output |
03:05.40 | Legorol | lua> m=string.match("test","%w?test%w?"); if(m=="test")then print("found it") end |
03:05.41 | lua_bot | Legorol: found it |
03:05.44 | Legorol | lua> m=string.match(" test","%w?test%w?"); if(m=="test")then print("found it") end |
03:05.45 | lua_bot | Legorol: found it |
03:05.48 | Legorol | lua> m=string.match(" test ","%w?test%w?"); if(m=="test")then print("found it") end |
03:05.49 | lua_bot | Legorol: found it |
03:05.54 | Legorol | lua> m=string.match(" atesto ","%w?test%w?"); if(m=="test")then print("found it") end |
03:05.54 | lua_bot | Legorol: No output |
03:05.57 | Legorol | there you go |
03:06.11 | Legorol | for this particular case, %f is unneeded |
03:06.13 | Shirik | lua> return string.match("test", "ftest", "%w?test%w?") |
03:06.13 | lua_bot | Shirik: luabot:1: bad argument #3 to 'match' (number expected, got string) |
03:06.19 | Dezzimal | the usual default pitbull font/skin is abf/otravi right? |
03:06.19 | Shirik | lua> return string.match("ftest", "%w?test%w?") |
03:06.22 | lua_bot | Shirik: ftest |
03:06.22 | Shirik | that's the problem |
03:06.29 | Legorol | it's not, Shirik |
03:06.30 | Legorol | look what i did |
03:06.33 | Shirik | oh |
03:06.46 | Legorol | i check if the match is actually "test", or any extra chars are on it |
03:06.50 | Shirik | meh, that's annoying :P |
03:06.54 | Shirik | an unnecessary test |
03:07.00 | Legorol | but i think it might be faster |
03:07.04 | Shirik | potentially |
03:07.08 | Legorol | because frontier matching is possibly slow |
03:07.13 | Legorol | not to mention it's undocumented ;-) |
03:09.02 | Sparky911 | i can use this bot to test code too? |
03:09.18 | Guillotine | Sparky911: non WoW-specific code, yah |
03:09.21 | Legorol | that's what we've been doing :) testing code |
03:09.35 | Sparky911 | ahh I see so just use lua> ? |
03:09.40 | Legorol | yup |
03:09.43 | Sparky911 | lua> m=string.match(" atesto ","%w?test%w?"); if(m=="test")then print("found it") end |
03:09.44 | lua_bot | Sparky911: No output |
03:09.46 | Sparky911 | nice |
03:09.52 | Guillotine | you have to use print(value) |
03:09.56 | Guillotine | or return(value) I think |
03:09.57 | Shirik | or return |
03:10.01 | Shirik | or nothing |
03:10.06 | Shirik | but not m = |
03:10.06 | Legorol | lua> 3 |
03:10.07 | lua_bot | Legorol: 3 |
03:10.19 | Legorol | lua> <3 |
03:10.20 | lua_bot | Legorol: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '<' |
03:10.24 | Legorol | hehe |
03:10.34 | Legorol | stupid bot, feel the love! |
03:10.35 | Sparky911 | ahh ok thats a great bot |
03:10.40 | Shirik | >:[ |
03:10.48 | Shirik | oh, that works in #lua |
03:10.49 | Shirik | :( |
03:11.29 | WobWork | lua>:[ |
03:11.30 | lua_bot | WobWork: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near ':' |
03:11.54 | Shirik | Well anyway |
03:12.01 | Shirik | I would use %f just because I can |
03:12.06 | Shirik | I've never actually had a use for it before :< |
03:12.29 | Sparky911 | so this should work? |
03:12.29 | Sparky911 | if (string.match(fmessage, %f[%w]+value%f[%w]+) |
03:12.36 | Shirik | get rid of the + |
03:12.41 | Sparky911 | k |
03:13.09 | Sparky911 | both? |
03:13.42 | Sparky911 | if (string.match(fmessage, %f[%w]value%f[%w]) |
03:13.42 | Shirik | yup |
03:13.43 | Shirik | and |
03:13.47 | Shirik | the second %w should be %W |
03:13.54 | Sparky911 | oh k |
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03:15.35 | Sparky911 | k thx guys Ill try it tomorrow |
03:15.50 | Shirik | lua> os.time() |
03:15.50 | lua_bot | Shirik: 1204254950 |
03:15.58 | Shirik | lua> os.clock() |
03:15.58 | lua_bot | Shirik: 0 |
03:16.03 | Shirik | lua> os.clock() |
03:16.03 | lua_bot | Shirik: 0 |
03:16.04 | Shirik | er |
03:16.15 | Shirik | lua> os.clock() for x = 1,1000 do end return os.clock() |
03:16.15 | lua_bot | Shirik: 0 |
03:16.18 | Tuller | lua > os.date() |
03:16.23 | Tuller | damn you space |
03:16.31 | Tuller | lua> os.date() |
03:16.31 | lua_bot | Tuller: Fri Feb 29 03:16:31 2008 |
03:16.38 | Shirik | I'm trying to get ms out of this thing |
03:16.45 | Shirik | so I can perform profiling |
03:16.45 | Lunessa | Sup? |
03:16.46 | Legorol | Shirik: i'd never use undocumented features, for fear of being a potential source of bugs later on if it changes (unannounced) |
03:16.48 | Shirik | lua> GetTime() |
03:16.48 | lua_bot | Shirik: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'GetTime' (a nil value) |
03:17.05 | Shirik | lua> pp(os) |
03:17.05 | lua_bot | Shirik: { ["date"] = function: 0x62d760, ["difftime"] = function: 0x62d7c0, ["time"] = function: 0x62a6d0, ["clock"] = function: 0x62d700 } (#1) |
03:17.15 | Shirik | lua> difftime() |
03:17.16 | lua_bot | Shirik: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'difftime' (a nil value) |
03:17.20 | Shirik | lua> os.difftime() |
03:17.20 | lua_bot | Shirik: luabot:1: bad argument #1 to 'difftime' (number expected, got no value) |
03:17.24 | Shirik | *headdesk* |
03:18.01 | WobWork | lua> os.difftime(os.time, os.date) |
03:18.01 | lua_bot | WobWork: luabot:1: bad argument #2 to 'difftime' (number expected, got function) |
03:18.18 | WobWork | lua> os.difftime(os.time, os.time + 5) |
03:18.19 | lua_bot | WobWork: luabot:1: attempt to perform arithmetic on field 'time' (a function value) |
03:18.20 | Tuller | lua> os.difftime(os.time(), os.date()) |
03:18.20 | lua_bot | Tuller: luabot:1: bad argument #2 to 'difftime' (number expected, got string) |
03:18.33 | Thrae|Work | lua> os.difftime(os.time(), os.time()) |
03:18.34 | lua_bot | Thrae|Work: 0 |
03:18.39 | WobWork | Surprise! |
03:18.40 | Tuller | lua> os.difftime(os.time(), 0) |
03:18.40 | lua_bot | Tuller: 1204255120 |
03:18.52 | Shirik | os.difftime is just subtraction? o.o |
03:19.05 | Thrae|Work | Shirik: Yes, I don't know the reason for it either |
03:19.06 | WobWork | lua> os.difftime(0, os.time) |
03:19.06 | lua_bot | WobWork: luabot:1: bad argument #2 to 'difftime' (number expected, got function) |
03:19.07 | Tuller | lua> os.difftime(0, os.time()) |
03:19.07 | lua_bot | Tuller: -1204255147 |
03:19.21 | Thrae|Work | lua> os.difftime(os.clock(), os.clock()) |
03:19.21 | lua_bot | Thrae|Work: 0 |
03:19.38 | Shirik | this is odd |
03:19.41 | Shirik | lua> os.clock() |
03:19.41 | lua_bot | Shirik: 0 |
03:19.46 | Shirik | why is os.clock not working? |
03:19.49 | Thrae|Work | Odd, I thought at least os.clock() would be different for two calls. |
03:19.55 | Shirik | it should be... |
03:19.59 | Shirik | it has millisecond precision |
03:20.07 | Shirik | or rather, as much as the system allots that to be true |
03:20.14 | Shirik | for pentium-based systems that's 16ms |
03:20.31 | Shirik | sorry, +/- 16ms |
03:20.36 | Thrae|Work | Must be the sandbox |
03:20.59 | Tuller | The os.clock function returns the number of seconds of CPU time for the program. Its typical use is to benchmark a piece of code: |
03:21.29 | Shirik | uh |
03:22.01 | Shirik | is that from the manual? |
03:22.01 | Shirik | It's broken on Windows then.... |
03:22.01 | Tuller | lua> x = os.clock() for i = 1, 10000 do end print(x - os.clock()) |
03:22.01 | lua_bot | Tuller: 0 |
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03:22.07 | Tuller | though I should have done something useful I imagine |
03:22.08 | Sixen | PTR is down, :( |
03:22.21 | Dezzimal | is there any way to get recount to sort deaths by death time? |
03:22.29 | Thrae|Work | lua> x = os.clock() for i = 1, 10000 do end print(os.clock()) |
03:22.29 | lua_bot | Thrae|Work: 0 |
03:22.39 | Dezzimal | so you can see who died first to figure out if people pulled aggro or who died on archi first? |
03:22.41 | Tuller | lua> x = os.clock() for i = 1, 100000 do j = j or 0 + j end print(x - os.clock()) |
03:22.42 | lua_bot | Tuller: luabot:1: attempt to perform arithmetic on global 'j' (a nil value) |
03:22.54 | Shirik | or has lower precedence than +, Tuller :) |
03:23.00 | Tuller | lua> x = os.clock() for i = 1, 100000 do j = j or 0 + 1 end print(x - os.clock()) |
03:23.01 | lua_bot | Tuller: -0.02 |
03:23.04 | Tuller | success! |
03:23.14 | Shirik | or.... it doesn't |
03:23.16 | Shirik | wtf? |
03:23.24 | Shirik | what did you change? |
03:23.33 | Tuller | the second j to a 1 :P |
03:23.40 | Shirik | oh |
03:23.52 | Shirik | uh |
03:23.56 | Shirik | lua> return j |
03:23.57 | lua_bot | Shirik: nil |
03:24.04 | Shirik | doesn't that just keep setting j to 1? >< |
03:24.14 | Tuller | why would it? :P |
03:24.40 | Shirik | because it's doing if (j) then j else 0+1 ? |
03:25.10 | Tuller | lua>false and 2 or 1 + 1 |
03:25.10 | lua_bot | Tuller: 2 |
03:25.14 | Thrae|Work | x = os.clock() for i = 1, 100000 do j = j or 0 + 1 end print(os.clock() - x, j) |
03:25.26 | Thrae|Work | lua> x = os.clock() for i = 1, 100000 do j = j or 0 + 1 end print(os.clock() - x, j) |
03:25.27 | lua_bot | Thrae|Work: 0.02, 1 |
03:25.34 | Tuller | lua>false and 2 or 1 + 1 or 2 |
03:25.34 | lua_bot | Tuller: 2 |
03:25.42 | Tuller | there you go :) |
03:25.50 | Shirik | lua> false and 2 or 1 + 3 |
03:25.50 | lua_bot | Shirik: 4 |
03:26.06 | Thrae|Work | lua> x = os.clock() for i = 1, 100000 do j = 1 + j or 0 end print(os.clock() - x, j) |
03:26.06 | lua_bot | Thrae|Work: luabot:1: attempt to perform arithmetic on global 'j' (a nil value) |
03:26.09 | Shirik | lua> j = 3; return false and 2 or 1 + j |
03:26.09 | lua_bot | Shirik: 4 |
03:26.13 | Shirik | that's interesting |
03:26.58 | Thrae|Work | lua> x = os.clock() for i = 1, 100000 do j = (j or 0) + 1 end print(os.clock() - x, j) |
03:26.58 | lua_bot | Thrae|Work: 0.03, 100000 |
03:27.37 | Thrae|Work | For incrementing without first initializing, I can't see anything other then (j or 0) |
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03:28.29 | Tuller | lua> x = j and j + 1 or 1 |
03:28.30 | lua_bot | Tuller: No output |
03:28.34 | Tuller | exactly :P |
03:28.40 | Tuller | lua> j and j + 1 or 1 |
03:28.41 | lua_bot | Tuller: 1 |
03:29.24 | Thrae|Work | Well you could do that, but wouldn't that be more operations then (j or 0) + 1? |
03:30.32 | Tuller | lua> x = os.clock() for i = 1, 100000 do j = j and j + 1 or 1 end print(os.clock() - x, j) |
03:30.33 | lua_bot | Tuller: 0.04, 100000 |
03:30.45 | Tuller | lua> x = os.clock() for i = 1, 100000 do j = j or 0 + 1 end print(os.clock() - x, j) |
03:30.46 | lua_bot | Tuller: 0.02, 1 |
03:31.01 | Thrae|Work | lua> x = os.clock() for i = 1, 100000 do j = (j or 0) + 1 end print(os.clock() - x, j) |
03:31.01 | lua_bot | Thrae|Work: 0.03, 100000 |
03:31.03 | Tuller | there's a reason to do it :) |
03:31.11 | break19 | heh, while my wife sleeps, I just set up her new cellphone.. emailed a pic of our daughter and set to her phone's bg.. she's gonna freak :) |
03:31.11 | Tuller | I don't feel like using () |
03:31.24 | Thrae|Work | j or 0 would just reset it to 1 each time |
03:31.27 | Cairenn | break19: awwwwww |
03:31.30 | Tuller | I know :) |
03:31.42 | Tuller | j or 0 + 1 would |
03:31.49 | Thrae|Work | Right |
03:32.37 | Tuller | lua> false and 1 or 1 + 1 and 2 |
03:32.37 | lua_bot | Tuller: 2 |
03:32.38 | Thrae|Work | Tuller: You're willing to use up 0.01 worth of CPU time just because you don't like the way it *looks*?! |
03:32.40 | break19 | heh, Cairenn you wanna -really- go aww? http://i28.tinypic.com/153wgfr.jpg :) |
03:32.41 | Corrodias | Leo down, 4/6! |
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03:32.49 | break19 | that the pic I set on her bg :) |
03:32.51 | Cairenn | awwwwwwwwww |
03:32.53 | Tuller | lua> false and 1 or 1 + 1 and 3 |
03:32.53 | lua_bot | Tuller: 3 |
03:32.56 | Thrae|Work | I don't know you anymore. Next you'll be saying you put comments in your code and don't code all on one line. |
03:32.58 | Cairenn | babies are the BESTESTEST! |
03:33.07 | Corrodias | lua> A and B |
03:33.07 | lua_bot | Corrodias: nil |
03:33.13 | Corrodias | lua> 1 and 2 |
03:33.14 | lua_bot | Corrodias: 2 |
03:33.19 | |pez| | break19: the kid looks quite enthusiastic about eating! :D |
03:33.34 | Thrae|Work | lua> "A" and "B" |
03:33.34 | lua_bot | Thrae|Work: B |
03:33.42 | Thrae|Work | lua> "_" and "A" |
03:33.42 | lua_bot | Thrae|Work: A |
03:33.43 | break19 | yea.. she loves to eat "real" food.. she's just starting that. |
03:34.15 | |pez| | hehe |
03:34.17 | |pez| | sweet though. |
03:34.32 | |pez| | pictures like that does almost make me want to get kids myself some day. |
03:34.46 | break19 | she hasnt eaten in about 9.5 hrs now tho.. kinda sick, she's got a virus, doc says nothing we can do but give her infant tylenol for the fever, and keep her as hydrated as possible. |
03:35.18 | Thrae|Work | Geez, I was so pissed off when my parents made me start eating "real food" and drink "real milk". So instead of getting nice, human-made, wholesome breast milk, I have to drink something that came out of a cow?! I furiously complained by crying for 4 days straight. |
03:35.27 | |pez| | break19: aww :\ |
03:35.35 | Thrae|Work | Back then, I hadn't quite grasped the concept of "language". |
03:36.03 | break19 | Thrae|Work: our kid is bottlefed.. and allergic to the protein in cow's milk.. gotta get the expensive soy milk for her :/ |
03:36.11 | Thrae|Work | Much like many addon users. *ducks* |
03:37.49 | Guillotine | Thrae: that doesn't even make sense :P |
03:38.00 | Tuller | bah, people think that since I'm using ace libraries, that my stuff will end up on wau :P |
03:38.10 | Tuller | there will be some sad people |
03:38.21 | Guillotine | hehe |
03:38.27 | Tuller | note to self: don't get people's hopes up |
03:38.29 | Lunessa | I will not be sad. |
03:38.30 | break19 | Tuller: <3 googlesvn |
03:39.42 | Thrae|Work | I don't see anything wrong with using WAU as a distribution / mass-testing network |
03:40.00 | WobWork | the problem |
03:40.02 | Thrae|Work | I put it up there with WoWI, etc. |
03:40.02 | |pez| | I need to figure out how I make white sauce for tomorrows dinner I think. |
03:40.04 | WobWork | is that you can't separate the two |
03:40.27 | Tuller | I like wowi because here's a page: here's what it looks like, and here's what it does |
03:40.34 | Thrae|Work | WobWork: True, which is why I only put stable builds up on WAU |
03:41.22 | Seerah | well, wowace was never meant to be a distribution site |
03:41.30 | break19 | |pez|: according to my wife, thats pretty easy.. white cheese sauce: also called alfredo sauce? |
03:41.32 | Seerah | that's why you've been developing in trunk, no, Thrae? |
03:41.34 | Thrae|Work | Seerah: It is meant to be one now |
03:41.59 | Thrae|Work | No, I develop on my google code site, and put stables in /trunk |
03:42.05 | ScytheBlade1 | ... is a standard table, right? |
03:42.10 | Seerah | no, it's drifted that way because of WAU and authors only making their things available (reliably) through that site |
03:42.13 | |pez| | break19: just wanting white sauce. milk and flour I think are the only needed ingredients, except maybe some spices. |
03:42.15 | Thrae|Work | ScytheBlade1: It's a string |
03:42.22 | WobWork | |pez|: scalded milk stirred into butter roux? |
03:42.24 | break19 | |pez|: ah ok |
03:42.34 | |pez| | I'm gonna make potatostew(?) and have some salty meat with it. |
03:43.05 | WobWork | |pez|: traditionally... butter and flour browned slightly, then scalded milk stirred into it carefully |
03:43.10 | break19 | potato soup. yea.. just milk butter and some various spices. |
03:43.10 | Thrae|Work | Seerah: Actually, Kaelten pushed for distribution. He wanted to make it a reliable distribution method. |
03:43.22 | break19 | and the flour cant forget the flour |
03:43.32 | Seerah | imo, it can't be a reliable distribution method in its current state |
03:43.46 | |pez| | jeppjepp, I figured it'd be worth a try making. |
03:43.59 | |pez| | Since I really want this for dinner sometime soon. |
03:44.08 | Seerah | you guys are making me hungry :( |
03:44.18 | Thrae|Work | Which is why I mostly use my own gcode SVN |
03:44.21 | WobWork | we just had pizza here at work |
03:44.21 | |pez| | Seerah: it seems this is one of my better qualities. |
03:44.29 | Seerah | I had a cambell's soup at hand (Potato) and chocolate slim-fast for dinner |
03:44.31 | WobWork | boss paid for about... 20 pizzas |
03:44.37 | break19 | potato soup is pretty easy to make. even I, who know as much about kitchens as a dog knows about computers. |
03:44.42 | WobWork | mmm gourmet pizza |
03:44.49 | break19 | .. can make potato soup.. |
03:44.56 | WobWork | break19: Well, you know what they say |
03:44.57 | Seerah | I have a good recipe for Potato and Leek soup I need to find... |
03:44.59 | Cairenn | my (personal) opinion is that ace svn should go back to being a development platform, then push to one [or more] of the distributions sites |
03:45.03 | WobWork | On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog |
03:45.05 | |pez| | break19: hehe, I'm the master of burning food though.. :\ |
03:45.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Thrae|Work: given UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT, where arg4 = target, how would I extract arg4 from ...? |
03:45.15 | break19 | WobWork: heh |
03:45.15 | Cairenn | it's easy to do for wowi, thanks to Shadowed's uploader |
03:45.23 | WobWork | Cairenn: I second that notion |
03:45.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: I SENSE ULTERIER MOTIVES! |
03:45.24 | Cairenn | one line push |
03:45.30 | ScytheBlade1 | ;) |
03:45.30 | WobWork | Shad's uploader is fantastic |
03:45.35 | break19 | |pez|: I could burn a ham sandwich.... |
03:45.37 | Maul | I agree Cairenn |
03:45.46 | Seerah | lol. pez |
03:45.57 | Cairenn | ScytheBlade1: nope, curse, incgamers, us, whatever - we're set up for distribution, ace is set up for development |
03:45.59 | break19 | I've had a couple issues with the wowi updater.. and its due to zipfile format. |
03:46.03 | break19 | and.. oh hey maul. |
03:46.07 | |pez| | break19: I burn... sausages. |
03:46.12 | |pez| | Seerah: what? :D |
03:46.20 | Thrae|Work | ScytheBlade1: function(self,arg1,arg2,arg3,arg4,...) |
03:46.21 | Maul | Hiya Break19 :) |
03:46.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Thrae|Work: rofl, gotcha. |
03:46.35 | |pez| | I am however, wondering if I should make the boyfriend a nice and awesome egg'n'bacon breakfast today |
03:46.35 | break19 | |pez|: yes, but sausages are cooked.. ham sandwiches are.. just ham, bread, cheese and miracle whip. |
03:46.37 | Seerah | actually, I meant to direct that to break19, but it was about the burning :P |
03:46.43 | WobWork | ... |
03:46.49 | WobWork | and miracle... what? |
03:46.51 | Thrae|Work | ScytheBlade1: There's another way to do it, but that's the easiest ;) |
03:46.59 | Cairenn | break19: we have always asked users to use .zip rather than anything else, it's a standard format that everyone knows how to deal with, whereas tons of users haven't the foggiest what to do with .rar or .7z or .... |
03:47.03 | Thrae|Work | IE, do it with just ... |
03:47.08 | |pez| | break19: Ooh, I thought you then actually like... slighly fried the bread (which is awesome btw, if you fry it in bacon fat) |
03:47.31 | break19 | Cairenn: No.. I meant with the directory structure INSIDE said zipfile.. |
03:47.32 | Tuller | .trojans! |
03:47.42 | break19 | MSBT in particular, it wont update. |
03:48.00 | Tuller | that would be a nice april fool's joke :P |
03:48.16 | Cairenn | okay, which are we talking about here? the uploader for authors to update on the site, or the downloader for endusers? |
03:48.30 | break19 | and if I had to guess, its because there's a pair of files in the root directory of the zip, and then 3 folders containing the 3-module MSBT.. |
03:48.35 | break19 | the downloader |
03:48.39 | Seerah | the updater |
03:48.39 | |pez| | Maybe I should go and plug the boyfriends insulin pump back on. So he won't wake up with a skyhigh bloodsugar. |
03:48.49 | Cairenn | that wasn't what we were talking about though :p |
03:48.49 | Seerah | yeah, Shirik was working on MSBT |
03:48.54 | Seerah | and that was the reason |
03:49.02 | break19 | <- downloader.. .. ok. :) |
03:49.04 | Cairenn | you jumped from one program to the other |
03:49.06 | Cairenn | :) |
03:49.07 | WobWork | oh man |
03:49.08 | WobWork | http://www.notmartha.org/archives/2008/02/27/bacon-cups/ |
03:49.10 | break19 | its no worry anyway.. I use WUU :p |
03:49.10 | WobWork | BACON CUPS |
03:49.22 | Tuller | bacon baked beans |
03:49.34 | Seerah | whoa |
03:49.37 | |pez| | WobWork: awesome :D |
03:49.46 | |pez| | I've had that once, only with noodles. :P |
03:49.53 | break19 | |pez|: speaking of a fried ham sandwich.. does sound good.. you must be from my part of the country.. talkin about fryin a ham sammich.. :) |
03:50.08 | |pez| | I'm probably not from your country at all ^^ |
03:50.36 | break19 | well.. frying everything you can get your hands on is definitely a southern USA trait.. so.. where you from? |
03:50.50 | |pez| | Norway |
03:50.51 | Cairenn | lol |
03:50.56 | break19 | neat |
03:51.02 | Cairenn | yay for sterotypes :p |
03:51.02 | |pez| | I like warm food, in all my meals if possible. |
03:51.05 | break19 | what city? |
03:51.10 | Shirik | MSBT? |
03:51.12 | Shirik | Wha? |
03:51.23 | |pez| | Born and raised i Lillehammer, currently living in Bergen. |
03:51.40 | Cairenn | Shirik: break19 is experiencing some sort of problem with your downloader and MSBT |
03:52.01 | break19 | ahh ok.. my folks have hosted exchange students since I was a senior in HS.. 14 years ago.. :p |
03:52.04 | Shirik | break19: Can you follow the instructions on the download page to get a verbose log? |
03:52.17 | Shirik | then give it to me? (Bug report area would be good) |
03:52.17 | Seerah | shirik: break19 was saying that it was giving him problems with the updater |
03:52.21 | ScytheBlade1 | just to be clear: the events (spell cast start events) that the UI fires doesn't include the target of your spells, right? |
03:52.23 | Thrae|Work | Has the downloader been updated recently? When I first used it, I needed to manually enter in all the IDs by hand. |
03:52.33 | Shirik | yes |
03:52.35 | Shirik | it was updated today |
03:52.45 | Seerah | I saw :) |
03:52.47 | Thrae|Work | Ah, so the parsing was fixed? |
03:52.52 | Seerah | still doesn't have my splash in it ;) |
03:52.57 | Shirik | sec, Nalorakk |
03:53.01 | Shirik | yeah I couldn't figure that out Seerah >< |
03:53.08 | Seerah | :( |
03:53.10 | break19 | Shirik: oh I dont use it anymore.. and its updated now anyway.. so it wont do anything.. the problem is with the unzipping.. and, if I had to make a guesstimate, its because of 2 textfiles in the root of the .zip directory structure, and the updater cant find a toc so goes nuts |
03:53.28 | Shirik | it should be able to figure that out |
03:53.36 | Shirik | actually that sounds like an old bug |
03:53.47 | Shirik | any clue what version of the updater that was? |
03:53.50 | Shirik | Should have been fixed in 0.2.9 |
03:54.10 | break19 | 1203288349-wowiupdater024 - prolly was.. thats the version. |
03:54.50 | Tuller | bacon cups can only imply one thing |
03:54.57 | Tuller | icecream + bacon |
03:54.58 | break19 | I just downloaded to see how it looked.. thought "meh, nice toy" and went back to my all-in-one updater.. :P |
03:55.22 | Seerah | Tuller: ugh :( |
03:55.27 | break19 | Tuller: omg.. dont get me started on that most delicious of frozen treats |
03:55.42 | Shirik | break19: Yeah that would have been 0.2.4 |
03:55.43 | Thrae|Work | The problem with an All-In-One Updater is that each site doesn't get the chance to show ads for the use of their bandwidth |
03:55.47 | Shirik | I believe that was already fixed |
03:55.49 | Shirik | but I'll double check |
03:55.54 | Keias | http://earlmarcus.com/images/wow_tattoo.jpg |
03:56.07 | Tuller | well it works with bongos, right? |
03:56.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's going to look awful after she has kids |
03:56.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | wait |
03:56.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | wow tattoo |
03:56.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | crisis averted |
03:56.43 | Cairenn | yup, that's the only objection I have to WUU ... I like it too, but the fact it impacts on our bandwidth without helping pay for our bandwidth ... =/ |
03:57.00 | Seerah | I found this today: http://www.wincustomize.com/skins.aspx?skinid=14028&libid=29 |
03:57.09 | Thrae|Work | Why both? One buttocks is for the Alliance, the other for the Horde? |
03:57.18 | |pez| | this looks just oh so awesome - http://www.notmartha.org/images/other/2008feb/bacon/spread.jpg |
03:57.24 | Seerah | Mr_Rabies2: why does that mean that the crisis was averted? :P |
03:57.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | no time for procreating |
03:57.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's motes to farm |
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03:58.04 | Thrae|Work | So you say, for a WoW player, motes > mates? |
03:58.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's a joke, gosh :( |
03:58.18 | break19 | Thrae|Work: not exactly true.. since the updater cant show changelogs, when stuff is updated, I check whatever site I used for the updated addon.. |
03:58.18 | break19 | plus, I always check the sites for "new stuff" that might look good on my system |
03:58.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | people should learn to never take me seriously |
03:58.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | :( |
03:58.39 | Seerah | Mr_Rabies2: different people find different things humorous :) |
03:58.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | i find walruses humorous |
03:59.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd love to have a pet walrus |
03:59.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | in my pool |
03:59.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | that'd be awesome. |
03:59.12 | Thrae|Work | break19: There's a difference between intent and action |
03:59.25 | Seerah | Reminds me of the "I want a Hippopotamus for Christmas" song |
03:59.28 | Guillotine | hahaha, you got to love mistells while cybering. Someone just did it in the CSF forum IRC channel |
03:59.42 | Seerah | lol |
03:59.56 | break19 | rofl |
04:00.19 | ScytheBlade1 | looooooool |
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04:00.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Good times |
04:01.43 | Shirik | damn you ScytheBlade1 |
04:01.43 | Shirik | they couldn't handle your extremely long lol |
04:01.43 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
04:01.44 | break19 | lol.. mine's short. |
04:01.44 | break19 | the lol that is.. |
04:01.44 | break19 | and I dont -care- what my wife says.. |
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04:12.05 | WobWork | The pile of empty pizza boxes here at work is waist high to me |
04:12.05 | |pez| | http://www.notmartha.org/archives/2007/10/26/spider-cakes/ |
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04:18.15 | Syzgyn | I hate charter. So so much. |
04:18.29 | Seerah | how much? ;) |
04:18.35 | Syzgyn | Thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis much |
04:18.48 | Seerah | not thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis much? |
04:19.08 | Seerah | I thought Comcast was the devil |
04:19.10 | Syzgyn | one of their connecting IP's is hosed |
04:19.22 | Syzgyn | which happens to be the one I connect to my realm through |
04:19.29 | Syzgyn | and curiously enough, their website |
04:19.58 | Syzgyn | but their tech support is fucking worthless |
04:20.38 | break19 | Syzgyn: thats pretty much SOP at most ISPs |
04:20.49 | Syzgyn | oh, I'm well aware of that |
04:20.56 | Lunessa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFFTwnYXI20 |
04:21.09 | Syzgyn | all I wanted to say was 'hey, this IP is bugged out, fix it!' |
04:21.15 | break19 | altho mediacom isnt as bad as it used to be.. when we had our old house, we'd sit on hold for sometimes hours before anyone got to us.. |
04:21.18 | Seerah | <3 Jim Gaffigan |
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04:21.33 | Syzgyn | but kept asking 'how many computers are connected to the network?' |
04:22.06 | Lunessa | ... How about we fill a pop-tart with nasty meat? |
04:22.10 | Syzgyn | I think the fact that most of the internet was working fine threw their basic support people way off |
04:22.29 | Syzgyn | they filed it as a DNS ticket |
04:22.49 | Syzgyn | ~roulette |
04:22.49 | purl | ACTION watches syzgyn pull the trigger: Click! |
04:22.52 | Syzgyn | damn |
04:23.08 | break19 | thats when you say "look kid. I've forgotten more about networks than you'll ever know in your entire lifetime, now either let me talk to someone who knows what the fuck is going on, OR let me talk to your supervisor.. and while I'm sure HE dont know what the fuck is going on, he'll at least be intelligent enough NOT TO PESTER ME WITH STUPID QUESTIONS" heh |
04:24.01 | Syzgyn | haha |
04:24.13 | break19 | and yes.. I've said some derivative of that, as some point in my past... |
04:24.20 | Syzgyn | I should have |
04:24.39 | Syzgyn | but its 11:30 here, all the knowledgeable people are home already |
04:25.22 | batrick | Shirik: wut |
04:25.23 | break19 | we had an intermittant problem a few years ago.. tv would be fine, but the internet would just go out and the cablemodem lights would be in "searching for connection" blink pattern.. |
04:25.33 | Shirik | uhh |
04:25.34 | Shirik | I forget |
04:25.49 | break19 | "please reset the cablemodem" "dude.. I've gone that like 4 fuckin times already.. there's NO connection.. " |
04:26.33 | break19 | finally, after about an hour of talkin with em.. they'd realize I was right, and schedule a tech to come out.. the tech would get here 3 or 4 days later, when it was working again, and go "oh? its working now? ok, cya" |
04:26.49 | break19 | then a week or two later, the cycle would start over. |
04:27.28 | Seerah | Back when we were in college, our Comcast cable box would get filled with water and go out on us. |
04:27.29 | break19 | went on like that for about a month until I got fed up and traced every inch of my cabling from computer desk all the way to cable switch down the street... |
04:27.47 | Seerah | We'd call them to come out and take a look at it: "Oh, hey - it's full of water .... should work now" |
04:27.51 | break19 | Seerah: that was exactly our problem, except it was the cable switch down the street that was getting wet. |
04:27.53 | |pez| | I want to make some jelloshots(?) |
04:28.03 | Seerah | maybe it was that, don't recall |
04:28.40 | WobWork | break19: I had that problem |
04:28.49 | Seerah | the next time it would rain and we'd go through the crap on the phone "reset your modem, check your Internet connection, firewall, blah blah blah" - we'd be like "LOOK - it's full of water again, send someone out!" |
04:28.52 | WobWork | My solution was to not use cable |
04:28.54 | Guillotine | break19: I wonder if thats our problem.. our internet does the exact same thing, especially when its been a wet day |
04:28.58 | break19 | and after waitin another month or so for them to FIX it.. I hauled a couple of garbage bags out to it and taped it up.. along with a sign saying "these bags brought to you by Mediacom, because we're too fucking lazy to actually fix this box" |
04:29.05 | WobWork | |pez|: Vodka Gummi Bears |
04:29.09 | break19 | 2days later there was a new switch box. |
04:29.20 | Seerah | lol |
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04:29.59 | break19 | Guillotine: first thing to check is your own cable switch box.. make sure its staying nice and dry inside.. |
04:31.56 | break19 | WobWork: that was our solution when we first moved into this house.. but when mediacom offered me 10M (my current dsl provider was only offerin me 3M) plus digital phone, digital cable and free starz on-demand... for 80 bucks a month.. for a year.. I said "fuck it, we'll give em another shot" especially since I was paying 65 bucks for the 3M dsl line. |
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04:32.25 | Guillotine | wow, your cable provider payed you 10 million? We have to pay ours :( |
04:33.06 | break19 | no.. 10Mbps |
04:33.58 | Iriel | Also check none of your phone lines are getting wet |
04:34.18 | Syzgyn | is there a way to do a substr in wiki syntax? |
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04:34.23 | Iriel | I went through 2 DSL routers before discovering the house had an exposed wire in the phone line sitting on the ground under the house. |
04:34.25 | batrick | Shirik: mad QQ |
04:34.34 | Shirik | ? |
04:34.47 | break19 | i -wish- they'd given me $10mill.. I'd be buying a few thousand acres outta town a ways... and dare people to come onto my property. |
04:34.51 | batrick | nvm |
04:35.00 | Syzgyn | oh, nevermind, found it |
04:37.14 | |pez| | So, opinions, if your partner woke you up like... an hour or so earlier than normal... and gave you breakfast with egg'n'bacon (and tomato beans I think) |
04:37.17 | |pez| | would you be... mad? |
04:37.21 | |pez| | or happy? |
04:38.21 | Iriel | or suspicious? |
04:38.28 | break19 | ^^ win |
04:39.15 | |pez| | Iriel: I want a good breakfast to kickstart my day, and I'd like to share it with my boyfriend, who is happily sleeping. |
04:39.38 | Syzgyn | I <3 my guildies |
04:39.40 | Iriel | I'd be happy with a touch of (hm.. why) |
04:39.43 | break19 | |pez|: do it like this.... |
04:39.53 | |pez| | and would probably be happily sleeping until we need to run out to the car and drive superfast for him to reach his bus. :P |
04:39.54 | Syzgyn | one of em gave me a SSH tunnel through their server in texas, and I got in |
04:40.04 | break19 | "hon.. " "mrfsdsf huh?" "I made some breakfast. you want any? its good" |
04:40.13 | Iriel | For me, bacon would make up for that |
04:40.32 | |pez| | I think perhaps he'd appreciate it too.. |
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04:40.50 | break19 | but if it were me you were presenting with the breakfast.. I'd be pissed.. who the hell eats beans for breakfast? lol |
04:41.11 | Iriel | i'd skip the beans too, but that's just me |
04:41.15 | break19 | bacon, eggs, grits and coffee.. breakfast of champions. |
04:41.19 | |pez| | may also fry the bread ( or maybe make some ciabattas and fry those for a bit in the pan? ) |
04:41.35 | |pez| | I love beans, the beans would be for me. I don't know or care if he likes it or not. |
04:42.17 | break19 | bring me a nice warm bowl of grits.. with bits of bacon shredded and mixxed into it, maybe some shredded cheese in it.. and butter. like.. a tub of it.. and 3 deep-fried eggs. |
04:42.36 | |pez| | grits? :) |
04:42.38 | break19 | and a nice hot cup of coffee.. black and strong. |
04:42.42 | Seerah | gonna make those bacon bowls? ;) |
04:42.44 | break19 | yea. grits. |
04:42.54 | |pez| | Seerah: nah, no time for that now ;P |
04:43.05 | break19 | "Its a Southern thing, you wouldn't understand" :P |
04:43.14 | |pez| | riight |
04:43.18 | Seerah | they're like oatmeal |
04:43.26 | break19 | but made from corn |
04:43.35 | |pez| | I'll go ask the boyfriend if he wants me to make him egg'n'bacon for breakfast. |
04:43.40 | |pez| | :p |
04:43.52 | Seerah | I say surprise him |
04:44.07 | pastamancer | grits are polenta |
04:44.12 | break19 | make it. -then- wake him up.. dont wake him up early just so he has to wait for it to be made. :) |
04:44.22 | Seerah | yeah |
04:44.38 | |pez| | break19: oh, he'll fall asleep again the second I'm out the door from the bedroom ;P |
04:44.42 | WobWork | actually if you wake him with the food on the tray |
04:44.51 | WobWork | he should be fine |
04:44.54 | Nechckn_BetaNow | as soon as I saw "southern thing" and "you wouldn't understand" I knew it had to be something about grits or scraple |
04:45.01 | WobWork | most people don't turn down a free breakfast in bed |
04:45.04 | Nechckn_BetaNow | scrapple... meh.. you know. |
04:45.18 | |pez| | WobWork: that is actually a good idea. |
04:45.20 | break19 | and if he's anything like me.. dont SPEAK to him at all other than "breakfast? I made bacon n eggs" anything else will get me irritated in the morning.. until I've had my coffee. |
04:45.23 | |pez| | But we have no good bedtray |
04:45.45 | break19 | use your body as the bedtray.. and you might NEED that extra hour. :) |
04:45.52 | Seerah | lol |
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04:46.20 | |pez| | also, the bedroom is freaking cold. |
04:46.21 | Keias | Wow I hate you all. I've had some really lazy girlfriends. |
04:46.22 | break19 | nothin better than eatin bacon off the tummy of the woman you love.. |
04:46.24 | break19 | heh |
04:47.02 | |pez| | don't want to actually be in the bedroom, except for being covered all up in the duvets and such. :P |
04:47.22 | break19 | Keias: the last time my wife made me breakfast in bed was 3 days after we got married.. after that its "you want breakfast? get your ass up and make some" |
04:47.28 | Keias | lol |
04:47.31 | Keias | I can imagine :P |
04:47.46 | Seerah | I made my husband breakfast a few times :) |
04:47.54 | Seerah | as a surprise that is |
04:47.55 | Keias | Luckily I do everything myself. It toughens me up for later in life! |
04:48.16 | |pez| | I ocasionally take extra care to get food into my boyfriend. :P He's a diabetic, and is horrible at making himself food and such. :P |
04:48.44 | Keias | Reminds me of a scrubs episode. |
04:48.55 | Seerah | well, go make breakfast! :) |
04:49.15 | |pez| | Still have a few minutes to go on, before i need to start. XD |
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04:49.29 | |pez| | Keias: think I've seen that one actually. |
04:49.37 | break19 | oh, she makes breakfast pretty regularly.. and wakes me up to say "its ready, better get in here before it gets cold" and I stumble to the breakfast area, likely still wearin nothin but tighty whiteys, sit down, eat, put my plate in the sink, rinse it, go "coffee made?" "yea" "good" and fix me a cup.. woe be unto her if she's woken me up with no coffee prepared.. if I get up on my own, its different.. but if I get WOKE up?!? COFFEE NOW |
04:49.59 | break19 | im not a real morning person.... |
04:50.25 | |pez| | I'm a horrible morning person. |
04:50.31 | |pez| | So is he. >__0 |
04:51.07 | WobWork | what's that song that Molly whistles in that one episode |
04:51.33 | break19 | i once threatened to woop the ass of a good friend of mine, after he woke me up.. and he's a "big ol' boy"... 6 and a half feet, about 250lbs of solid muscle.. needless to say.. he told me later that day "you ever threaten me like that again, it'll be the last time you wake up. got it?" lol |
04:51.52 | Keias | My friend said that to me once. |
04:52.01 | Keias | So I drew a penis on his face with a marker later that night :( |
04:52.11 | break19 | heh |
04:52.27 | Keias | Luckily for me, I'm ok as a morning person. |
04:52.39 | break19 | he got the point tho.. from then on, he'd just turn on the cab light in the back, when it was my turn to drive, and his turn to sleep.. |
04:52.47 | Keias | In fact, I think I'm a pretty easy going person unless provoked o_O |
04:52.58 | break19 | and then he'd wait for me to come up front and speak first |
04:52.59 | Keias | rofl |pez| |
04:53.27 | |pez| | They also put furniture on said person |
04:53.44 | |pez| | stacked stuff around him, all the way to the ceiling. |
04:53.47 | |pez| | I wish I'd been there. |
04:53.55 | |pez| | it was supposedly quite the epic sight. |
04:53.56 | Keias | If anyone ever draws on my penis, I hope its of another penis. That'd be pretty awesome. |
04:54.08 | Shirik | uhh |
04:54.13 | Shirik | wtf are you guys talking about >< |
04:54.23 | Keias | Drawing and penis...es |
04:54.34 | Keias | DO YOU NOT LIKE ART SHIRIK?! |
04:54.35 | |pez| | Shirik: it went from food, to morning people, the pranks on sleeping people, to... penises. |
04:54.56 | Keias | Either way, I blame |pez| |
04:55.11 | |pez| | Jeez, why do I always get blamed for stuff? >__> |
04:55.19 | ScytheBlade1 | |pez|: easy target |
04:55.28 | Keias | Quotes are blackmail material :( |
04:55.33 | Keias | Luckily I have no shame on IRC. |
04:55.47 | |pez| | [05:55] <Ami> (#1234) "I have done a serious investigation, and I find Pez responsible for the end of the world." -- Beth |
04:55.58 | |pez| | this is my welcoming quote on another network /channel |
04:55.58 | WobWork | aha |
04:56.03 | WobWork | The Andy Griffiths show |
04:56.12 | Keias | I can see it |
04:56.18 | batrick | --> print(os.clock()) for i =1, 1e6 do math.cos(5) end print(os.clock()) |
04:56.19 | batbot | batrick: 16.4816.85 |
04:56.57 | |pez| | Alright, I think I'll head off into the kitchen, and make the foodness previously talked about. |
04:57.04 | |pez| | and also slighly clean the livingroom table. |
04:57.11 | Keias | Have fun. |
04:57.29 | |pez| | will try. |
05:01.14 | Syzgyn | I'm having some issues with wiki syntax... Anyone here an expert? |
05:03.11 | WobWork | |pez|: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PG1qCSJSA0c |
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05:11.13 | Shirik | gdit WobWork |
05:11.15 | Shirik | now I'm whistling |
05:11.19 | Shirik | I hate you |
05:12.26 | Syzgyn | how can I use #switch properly if my parameters are in [[]] brackets |
05:13.39 | Shirik | uh |
05:13.46 | Shirik | #switch? |
05:14.08 | Shirik | p.s. the long string representation does not change anything about the string, only how it is read |
05:14.14 | Shirik | the internal representation is identical |
05:14.24 | Syzgyn | sorry, in wiki, not lua |
05:14.25 | batrick | Shirik: ping |
05:14.32 | Shirik | batrick: pong |
05:14.35 | Shirik | heh |
05:14.41 | Shirik | Makes more sense now Syzgyn lol |
05:14.41 | batrick | =) |
05:14.45 | batrick | uh |
05:14.53 | batrick | so did you look at the new sandbox yet?! |
05:14.53 | Shirik | BJT > MOSFET |
05:14.54 | Syzgyn | |{{#switch:{{lc:{{{2|}}}}} |
05:14.54 | Syzgyn | |lady vashj=[[Lady Vashj (tactics)|Lady Vashj]] |
05:14.56 | Shirik | no |
05:14.58 | Syzgyn | works |
05:14.59 | batrick | <PROTECTED> |
05:15.00 | Shirik | I'll go look now |
05:15.11 | Syzgyn | but |[[lady vashj]]=[[Lady Vashj (tactics)|Lady Vashj]] doesnt |
05:15.14 | Shirik | mpdelbuono@li23-154 ~ $ cd batbot |
05:15.14 | Shirik | -bash: cd: batbot: No such file or directory |
05:15.17 | Shirik | wait, wrong bot |
05:15.19 | Shirik | box* |
05:16.19 | Shirik | oh no you did not |
05:16.28 | Shirik | I can't even tab complete anymore |
05:16.39 | batrick | what?? |
05:16.41 | Shirik | -rw-rwxrwx 1 batrick batrick 16406 2008-02-22 22:46 OI_SHIRIK_NEW_SANDBOX_LOL.lua |
05:16.41 | Shirik | -rw-rwxrwx 1 batrick batrick 17621 2008-02-27 23:52 OI_SHIRIK_NEW_SANDBOX_LOL_TWO.lua |
05:16.41 | Shirik | -rw-rwxrwx 1 batrick batrick 4813 2008-02-27 23:53 OI_SHIRIK_SERIALIZE.lua |
05:16.41 | batrick | ur just bad |
05:16.44 | Shirik | that is so not cool |
05:16.45 | ScytheBlade1 | LOL |
05:16.46 | ScytheBlade1 | WIN |
05:17.13 | Shirik | I have to push three sets of tabs |
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05:17.19 | Shirik | first set goes to OI_SHIRIK |
05:17.25 | Shirik | second set goes to OI_SHIRIK_NEW_SANDBOX |
05:17.33 | Shirik | then finally OI_SHIRIK_NEW_SANDBOX_LOL_TWO |
05:17.46 | batrick | roffles |
05:18.10 | Shirik | local lpcall = pcall; -- REMOVE LATERJ L;AKSJDLFJ;ASJDLKFJ498U09218U4 |
05:18.12 | Shirik | ?? |
05:18.21 | batrick | dude |
05:18.23 | batrick | that's been there |
05:18.25 | batrick | forever |
05:18.33 | Shirik | why haven't you removed it?! |
05:18.40 | batrick | because luatask is gayyyy? |
05:18.49 | batrick | honestly |
05:18.52 | batrick | we need to figure out |
05:19.03 | batrick | what the fuck we're doing with our threading extension |
05:19.12 | Shirik | yes |
05:19.14 | Shirik | seriously |
05:19.27 | batrick | I'd be working on it if it were'nt for tables sucking when you move them |
05:19.43 | batrick | I'm not going to start working on something based on false assumptions :P |
05:19.53 | Shirik | is it because of a race condition? |
05:19.56 | batrick | no |
05:19.57 | Shirik | or just that you plain can't move it |
05:20.04 | batrick | you simply can't access values in the table |
05:20.08 | batrick | it moves fine |
05:20.12 | batrick | you just can't index shit |
05:20.32 | Shirik | You know what that sounds like a job for? |
05:20.34 | Shirik | visual studio. |
05:21.08 | batrick | while you're at it make sure you can call functions that are moved |
05:21.12 | Shirik | if npcalls > 10 then |
05:21.13 | Shirik | return nil, "ead shirik"; |
05:21.13 | Shirik | else |
05:21.13 | Shirik | :< |
05:21.35 | batrick | awesome error message if I do say so myself |
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05:22.12 | batrick | so I finally started using hjkl for moving in vim, I swear I was an idiot for not starting sooner |
05:22.15 | batrick | so nice |
05:22.44 | Shirik | --> foo = 4; tempg = _G; _G = nil; return rawget(tempg, "foo") |
05:22.44 | batbot | Shirik: @ [string " foo = 4; tempg = _G; _G = nil; return rawg..."]:1: cannot modify secure global variables |
05:22.48 | Shirik | ugh |
05:23.55 | Shirik | I think I see a conflict batrick It's just a matter of how to get there |
05:24.01 | Shirik | going to the test channel |
05:24.30 | batrick | uh ok |
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05:38.20 | art3mis | have you guys seen thenew mike meyers movie trailer? |
05:38.28 | Syzgyn | negative |
05:38.29 | batrick | neg here |
05:38.47 | art3mis | oh man it's awesoe |
05:38.49 | art3mis | awesome |
05:39.02 | Legorol | what is it called? |
05:39.44 | art3mis | http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/28/the-love-guru-movie-trailer/ |
05:41.35 | art3mis | nice hat, i had a hat like that once, and then my mom got a job. |
05:43.56 | batrick | I disagree looks kinda shitty |
05:44.20 | WobWork | hehe cool |
05:44.21 | WobWork | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvUG2PNSCv4 |
05:44.32 | WobWork | ^My company running this |
05:44.34 | kd3 | ah, that feels better. my new-unsorted directory is now down to a slightly more managable 16 gigs instead of the ~100 or so it was at a few hours ago |
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05:48.53 | fromatz | lua? ts=0; q=(t%50)+1; print(q); |
05:48.59 | fromatz | lua> ts=0; q=(t%50)+1; print(q); |
05:49.00 | lua_bot | fromatz: luabot:1: attempt to perform arithmetic on global 't' (a nil value) |
05:49.09 | fromatz | lua> ts=0; q=(ts%50)+1; print(q); |
05:49.10 | lua_bot | fromatz: 1 |
05:49.32 | WobWork | lua> 0%50 |
05:49.33 | lua_bot | WobWork: 0 |
05:49.37 | art3mis | okay thats pretty awesome wob |
05:49.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm, what to do now |
05:49.51 | WobWork | I really can't believe how huge this thing is getting |
05:50.01 | art3mis | stop rubbing it |
05:50.19 | fromatz | lua> ts=0; tab={}; tab[(ts%50)+1]=6; pp(tab); |
05:50.19 | lua_bot | fromatz: { 6 } (#1) |
05:50.33 | WobWork | we've had 38 million questions answered correctly over the 'warmup' period |
05:50.42 | WobWork | or rather |
05:50.46 | WobWork | over the last 18 hours <> |
05:50.48 | WobWork | >< |
05:51.03 | WobWork | crazy |
05:51.06 | art3mis | you're tricking kids |
05:51.12 | art3mis | just like samuari jack! |
05:51.22 | art3mis | and beekmans world |
05:51.28 | WobWork | It's true |
05:51.36 | WobWork | over a million students already registered |
05:51.41 | art3mis | you watch samurai jack and think what an awesome show |
05:51.49 | ckknight | WobWork: go math! |
05:51.49 | art3mis | 4 shows later HEY i learnt a moral! |
05:51.50 | WobWork | then you realise you've learnt something =) |
05:52.13 | WobWork | art3mis: all the old cartoons were like that =) |
05:52.18 | art3mis | im surprised you recognized beekmans world though ;) |
05:52.20 | WobWork | Remember D&D? |
05:52.23 | art3mis | heh yeah |
05:52.36 | art3mis | i leanred nothing from robotech though |
05:52.43 | WobWork | That was Japanese |
05:52.45 | art3mis | except that i REALLY wanted a giant robot |
05:52.46 | WobWork | They don't do morals |
05:52.53 | WobWork | They do angst |
05:52.55 | art3mis | battle of the planets did |
05:53.01 | art3mis | and speedracer |
05:53.04 | art3mis | and astroboy |
05:53.11 | WobWork | astroboy was mostly angst =P |
05:53.13 | art3mis | that entire frigging show was a big moral lesson |
05:53.24 | art3mis | morel |
05:53.32 | WobWork | mushroom? |
05:53.40 | art3mis | i still think its funny that they've astarted doing it again |
05:53.46 | art3mis | like kim possible |
05:53.50 | fromatz | lua> ts=0; x="hello"; f=1; tab={}; tab[(ts%50)+1]= x .. "/" .. f; pp(tab); |
05:53.50 | lua_bot | fromatz: { "hello/1" } (#1) |
05:53.51 | art3mis | great show on its own |
05:54.02 | art3mis | cept it tries to teach you values ;P |
05:54.20 | art3mis | Invader Zim however |
05:54.21 | WobWork | damn them! |
05:54.24 | art3mis | incredibly awesopme show |
05:54.28 | art3mis | and you learn NOTHING |
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05:54.36 | WobWork | kind of like Ren and Stimpy |
05:54.39 | art3mis | except that you REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY want a Gir |
05:54.47 | WobWork | Although in R&S you learn -not- to do -that- |
05:54.51 | art3mis | heh |
05:55.00 | WobWork | or "Don't put your finger -there-" |
05:55.01 | art3mis | POWERED TOAST MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNN! |
05:55.29 | WobWork | okies, home time |
05:55.44 | art3mis | http://youtube.com/watch?v=acO5l3avz9g |
05:56.06 | art3mis | and they smell like rotting beef carcasses |
05:56.56 | |pez| | So, waking up the boyfriend with breakfast: Success! |
05:57.03 | WobWork | Win! |
05:57.07 | fromatz | lua> tab={};tab[1]=6;tab2= |
05:57.08 | lua_bot | fromatz: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '<eof>' |
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05:57.11 | fromatz | eh |
05:57.15 | WobWork | Score 1 for the "Let me ask the interwebs" team |
05:57.27 | |pez| | yus! |
05:57.50 | WobWork | |pez|: I pasted a youtube for that Scrubs episode earlier |
05:58.07 | |pez| | he was all tired and grumpy at first, but realized there was good food, got up, looked at me, said "nom" with lots of food in his mouth. so it was all good XD |
05:58.16 | art3mis | http://youtube.com/watch?v=dPHtKarae2Q It's LOG! |
05:58.18 | WobWork | hehe OM NOMNOMNOM |
05:58.30 | WobWork | It's big it's heavy it's wood! |
05:58.40 | art3mis | it's better than bad its good! |
05:58.58 | WobWork | anyway, cya =) |
05:59.26 | art3mis | http://youtube.com/watch?v=q5wNaWx2ctY&feature=related <-- pwoered toast man! |
05:59.29 | art3mis | cya |
05:59.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm, what to do next. Play with kerberos, ldap, or my mail server. |
06:00.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Or encrypt more things, that's always worthwhile |
06:00.41 | art3mis | It's toast-er-ific!! |
06:00.51 | art3mis | scythe ASSP! |
06:00.51 | |pez| | I hope this not so healthy breakfast will inspire me to do more housework today |
06:00.58 | ScytheBlade1 | ASSP? |
06:01.01 | art3mis | its oodles of fun! |
06:01.15 | art3mis | Anti Spam Scanner Proxy |
06:01.17 | art3mis | or something |
06:01.39 | ScytheBlade1 | eh I've already got a decent RBL and spamassassin |
06:01.50 | ScytheBlade1 | And it should be noted that I ran without any form of anti-spam for four-five years |
06:02.01 | batrick | shirik is RAGING |
06:02.11 | Shirik | I KNOW IT'S HERE |
06:02.13 | Shirik | I CAN FEEL IT |
06:02.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Deleting ~500 emails a day was common, and I'm perfectly content with four a day now |
06:02.15 | art3mis | http://youtube.com/watch?v=YHeFVS6rzJU |
06:02.18 | batrick | 23:01:41 < Shirik> --> local t = _G; local f = function(t) return debug.getupvalue(t) end; setfenv(f, {debug=debug, _G = 4, type = function() return "nil" end}) return f(debug.setlocal) |
06:02.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: RRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEE |
06:02.22 | batrick | 23:01:42 < batbot> Shirik: @ cannot access secure functions' upvalues |
06:02.25 | batrick | 23:01:46 < Shirik> SCREW YOU BATBOT |
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06:03.51 | ScytheBlade1 | art3mis: if I played with my mail server, I'd be impliment client side SSL certs over SMTP, requiring them before SMTP relay is allowed |
06:03.59 | ScytheBlade1 | s/impliment/implimenting/ |
06:04.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Giving me bi-directional secure channels and removing the possibility of mitm attacks |
06:05.03 | art3mis | heh im sorta stuck with exchange |
06:05.07 | art3mis | hosting for a client |
06:05.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Sucker :D |
06:05.22 | art3mis | they just dont understand that exchange is evil ;P |
06:05.34 | art3mis | ive bent it mostly to my will though |
06:05.37 | art3mis | ;) |
06:06.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm |
06:07.00 | ScytheBlade1 | I could play with openbsd more too |
06:07.16 | ScytheBlade1 | I still need to beat it partially into submission |
06:08.03 | art3mis | oh if yer feeling crazy yuo could setup server2008 sql2008 and exchange communication server 2007 ;P |
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06:08.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Don't they provide free Virual Machines for that though? |
06:08.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Plus I actually already have 2008 running in a VM |
06:08.27 | art3mis | and before you move to tibet and become a monk, mail me all yer computer stuff |
06:08.39 | ScytheBlade1 | And exchange 07, actually |
06:08.55 | art3mis | 2008sql is brand new ;P |
06:09.00 | ScytheBlade1 | And I've got a legit copy of server 2003, and sql 2000 |
06:09.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
06:09.05 | art3mis | and the communication server is rpetty awesome |
06:09.11 | art3mis | pretty |
06:09.18 | art3mis | for all that it does |
06:09.40 | art3mis | i thinkmy next actionpack mailer gives me a full vista plat for resale, and vm2008 |
06:09.56 | ScytheBlade1 | hehe, |pez|, this is a work in progress, but currently it documents my linode (most everything about it, anyways): http://files.aboveaverageurl.com/security.txt |
06:10.32 | art3mis | how much ya paying a month for that? |
06:10.50 | ScytheBlade1 | My linode? $20 |
06:11.23 | art3mis | not bad |
06:11.39 | art3mis | not as awesome as my home cable business account a clients paying for ;P |
06:11.43 | art3mis | but not bad |
06:12.03 | art3mis | 30/5 5 static ips and only 1 being used for their exchange ;P |
06:12.17 | art3mis | for only 75/mn |
06:12.20 | ScytheBlade1 | lol nice |
06:12.26 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got three public IPs |
06:12.34 | ScytheBlade1 | And a loooooot more than 30/5 hehe |
06:12.43 | art3mis | heh i have physical access to it ;P |
06:12.48 | ScytheBlade1 | meh, details |
06:12.55 | |pez| | linode offers excellent service though |
06:12.55 | art3mis | and there isnt a secondary transfer for me to leech at 30mbit ;P |
06:13.00 | Syzgyn | Behold! Wiki tables sortable by boss progression: http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Syzgyn/Sandbox2 |
06:13.18 | art3mis | |pez|: optimum in my neighborhood has a 99% uptime since i got it 3 years ago |
06:13.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Something about downloading well over 30MB (bytes) a sec and then uploading faster... |
06:13.40 | art3mis | and my service for hoopking up stuff to the switch is gooder than linodes ;P |
06:14.14 | |pez| | There was a problem with the host my linode was on, and I e-mailed them about it, politely and such, since it wasn't the end of the worlds, and I know things *do* break sometimes, and they answered me, and kept me updated about how the process of moving me over to a new host was going. |
06:14.30 | art3mis | yeah i get 1.5mByte down 150kbyte or so up on my home ad 3.5mbyte down and around 250kbyte up on work |
06:14.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Their service is great |
06:14.47 | art3mis | heh dreamhost is awesome for support |
06:14.57 | art3mis | they sent out an accidental billing cycle in jan |
06:14.57 | ScytheBlade1 | I've heard good things about them |
06:15.10 | art3mis | and like 2 days later came the mail blast of "sorry for our fat fingers" |
06:15.21 | art3mis | this news letters are gold |
06:15.22 | ScytheBlade1 | But having an unmanaged "box" with root access and stupid amounts of bandwidth is just awesome |
06:15.28 | art3mis | yeah |
06:15.30 | art3mis | it is |
06:16.01 | art3mis | i tend towards bad things though so its best nobody but me really monitors the connection ;P |
06:16.03 | ScytheBlade1 | I can download the new PTR build patcher, extract the torrent, move it over, torrent it on my linode, mirror it, download the patch, and patch |
06:16.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Usually before people can get the patch via the downloader |
06:16.33 | art3mis | downloader? |
06:16.35 | art3mis | gasp |
06:16.46 | art3mis | sacrelidge! |
06:17.12 | |pez| | but then, my account is just... not active atm |
06:17.36 | |pez| | And my downloader I mean the non PTR ones. |
06:17.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Eww, spamassassin is using 9% of my RAM |
06:17.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Actually a lot more than that |
06:18.02 | art3mis | WOW THATS A LOT OF SPAM! |
06:18.16 | ScytheBlade1 | 23% of mt RAM |
06:18.16 | |pez| | spammed ram |
06:18.18 | Duman | root 2260 0.0 0.6 29468 25308 ? Ss 2007 0:05 /usr/bin/spamd -d -c -m10 -H -r /var/run/spamassassin/spamd.pid |
06:18.18 | ScytheBlade1 | *my |
06:18.28 | Duman | that's not much of my ram :) |
06:18.31 | ScytheBlade1 | hehe |
06:18.43 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got 320MB, it works for my needs |
06:18.45 | Duman | 0.6% |
06:18.48 | Duman | ahh |
06:18.53 | Duman | <PROTECTED> |
06:18.53 | Duman | Mem: 4154620 4007752 146868 0 148948 1765432 |
06:18.55 | Duman | ;) |
06:18.59 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
06:19.07 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
06:19.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Mem: 356116 331436 24680 0 22832 76640 |
06:19.07 | ScytheBlade1 | -/+ buffers/cache: 231964 124152 |
06:19.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Swap: 524280 28160 496120 |
06:19.15 | art3mis | i need to find a disrto thatll work nice on my thinkpad560e |
06:19.19 | Duman | but this is my shell box |
06:19.20 | art3mis | distro |
06:19.23 | Duman | and I have like 200 user accounts on it |
06:19.27 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
06:19.28 | Duman | <PROTECTED> |
06:19.31 | art3mis | i thought hey ill try puppy |
06:19.36 | art3mis | but nooooIOOOOooooo |
06:19.44 | art3mis | its incapable of installing correctly |
06:19.45 | ScytheBlade1 | I rebooted mine for the vmsplice 'sploit |
06:20.02 | art3mis | antix mepis, horribly long boot times on 48mb ;P |
06:20.07 | art3mis | uptime(win2k): win(1d 10h 37m 56s) serv(1d 1h 8m 12s) today(1w 3d 44m 57s) xirc(1d 10h 31m 2s) best(1w 3d 10h 54m 24s) |
06:20.21 | art3mis | wow a whole week! |
06:20.30 | art3mis | heh i was mucking with OCing last night |
06:21.12 | Duman | I need to rebuild this box, sigh |
06:21.28 | Duman | I think it started life as FC2 |
06:21.37 | Duman | <PROTECTED> |
06:21.37 | Duman | Fedora Core release 2 (Tettnang) |
06:21.38 | Duman | hah |
06:21.39 | ScytheBlade1 | lol wow |
06:21.57 | |pez| | I'm going to install ubuntu on my laptop when I get my other computer... and play around with security and such before I mess my linode up horribly. :p |
06:22.04 | art3mis | heh ive got a drive kicking around with my original bsd 2.6 install |
06:22.06 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
06:22.07 | art3mis | fbsd |
06:23.13 | |pez| | I... will drive boyfriend to work now. kthx bye. |
06:23.18 | Duman | hehe |
06:23.20 | Duman | later pez |
06:23.39 | |pez| | I was supposed to drive him to the bus, but noooo, he was being slow.:P |
06:23.49 | |pez| | now I need to sit in a car queue for like half an hour instead. |
06:24.28 | art3mis | goth makeup and metal will get yuo through the line better ;P |
06:36.15 | Guillotine | ROFL@fox news |
06:36.24 | Guillotine | "Do you speak German?" "Dah" "...That's russian" |
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06:37.33 | art3mis | haha |
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06:41.05 | ScytheBlade1 | yay empty inbox |
06:43.03 | ScytheBlade1 | And I really wish I knew why Thunderbird wasn't saving my filters. |
06:48.50 | ScytheBlade1 | TQ3QT-VMQXY-KDMCB-MG3VH-VJTTY |
06:48.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Errr |
06:48.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Whoops |
06:48.58 | Cairenn | lol |
06:49.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Quick, everyone /clear! |
06:49.20 | Syzgyn | looks like a windows XP key :O |
06:49.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Not quite but close |
06:49.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Something tells me that you didn't /clar |
06:49.51 | ScytheBlade1 | * /clear |
06:49.56 | Syzgyn | I'm a rebel |
06:50.04 | ScytheBlade1 | I see |
06:50.11 | Syzgyn | : |
06:50.12 | Syzgyn | :P |
06:51.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Copying message 27 of 772... |
06:51.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Backing up sucks |
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06:57.24 | Shirik | ... |
06:57.30 | Shirik | So I'm about to write out this song in sheet music |
06:57.40 | Shirik | so the first thing I do is "ok what key signature is it" so I start playing with notes |
06:57.45 | Shirik | and find it's in A# major.... |
06:57.56 | Shirik | (all sharps, including B# and E#) |
06:57.59 | Shirik | This is not going to be fun >.> |
06:58.08 | art3mis | and yet you're gonna do it |
06:58.14 | Shirik | yup |
06:58.18 | Shirik | because it's totally worth it |
06:58.30 | Syzgyn | whats the song? |
06:58.42 | Shirik | secret! |
06:58.54 | Syzgyn | :o |
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07:01.00 | art3mis | Syzgyn: it has the chorus of "never gonna give you up never gonna let you down" |
07:01.20 | art3mis | thats right bitch you got text rickrolled! |
07:01.29 | Syzgyn | My eyes are burning! |
07:02.52 | Syzgyn | http://flickr.com/photos/boyshapedbox/2282655473/in/set-72157603957925616/ |
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07:07.43 | Cairenn | whose bot is that? |
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07:08.43 | mikma | Cairenn: Thraes¨ |
07:09.09 | art3mis | yeah |
07:09.21 | Cairenn | okay |
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07:10.55 | Shirik | ah right |
07:11.04 | Shirik | A# major == B flat major |
07:11.18 | Shirik | I'm a strings player, we don't play with flats. They're annoying >< |
07:11.20 | Shirik | sharps ftw |
07:11.42 | Shirik | fortunately, though, B flat major is only B flat and E flat |
07:12.15 | Shirik | Cairenn: Get a better IRC client |
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07:12.21 | Shirik | Note the end :P |
07:12.31 | Cairenn | meh, whatever |
07:13.01 | Syzgyn | Man, I havent done anything music related besides listening for years |
07:13.08 | Syzgyn | I miss it :( |
07:16.10 | Shirik | ooh!! |
07:16.18 | Shirik | They fixed noteworthy composer so you can bar across rests now |
07:16.18 | Shirik | fun |
07:16.50 | fromatz | joanna newsom ftw |
07:17.00 | art3mis | ya know i wonder how exciting shirik would be on lithium or ritalin |
07:17.07 | Shirik | ... |
07:17.30 | art3mis | you have to be partially autistic |
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07:17.35 | art3mis | you just have to be |
07:18.16 | Syzgyn | haha |
07:20.46 | Shirik | but look |
07:20.47 | Shirik | it's awesome |
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07:21.44 | ScytheBlade1 | 579/772... |
07:21.54 | ScytheBlade1 | And an awesome 6sec+ ping |
07:22.42 | Shirik | :< |
07:22.46 | Shirik | images.gammatester.com no longer exists? |
07:23.13 | Shirik | anyway, art3mis |
07:23.17 | Shirik | look, it lets me do this now! |
07:23.30 | Shirik | http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/8829/yaypu6.jpg |
07:24.42 | ScytheBlade1 | "Hay I talked to my girl firend about the insurance thing with yur dog and cant not remember what she said cuz i have way to much on my mind sorry but her number and name is Shirley 762-XXXX." |
07:24.47 | ScytheBlade1 | ....... what? |
07:25.02 | ScytheBlade1 | First off, I don't know who you are, second, I don't have a dog, third, I have no clue who Shirley is, fourth, what? |
07:25.10 | ScytheBlade1 | This e-mail was sent directly to me :/ |
07:25.10 | Shirik | lmao |
07:26.06 | kd3 | whuh? |
07:26.06 | ScytheBlade1 | If I knew... |
07:26.14 | ScytheBlade1 | From someone at my old workplace, to my old workplace's email |
07:27.04 | Syzgyn | ~roulette |
07:27.04 | purl | ACTION watches syzgyn pull the trigger: Click! |
07:27.17 | ScytheBlade1 | ~roulette |
07:27.17 | purl | ACTION watches scytheblade1 pull the trigger: Click! |
07:27.25 | Syzgyn | I've yet to see someone get shot |
07:27.29 | Syzgyn | heh |
07:27.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Keep doing it. |
07:27.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Six chambers. |
07:27.42 | haste | ~roulette |
07:27.42 | purl | ACTION watches haste pull the trigger: BANG! |
07:27.48 | haste | it always happens :( |
07:27.48 | ScytheBlade1 | There you go. |
07:27.50 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
07:27.50 | Syzgyn | haha |
07:27.53 | Syzgyn | poor haste |
07:28.31 | haste | wonder how many hits I get if I try to grep my old ace log |
07:28.54 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
07:30.41 | Syzgyn | night guys |
07:38.00 | ScytheBlade1 | hehe. 1116 pieces of spam in my junk folder. |
07:38.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Anyone need some..? |
07:39.38 | Nechckn_BetaNow | Here I thought you were trying to start an updated version of 100 Bottles of Beer |
07:40.17 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
07:40.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Nah :) |
07:40.52 | ScytheBlade1 | I did however, just delete 2200 faxes in .pdf form |
07:40.55 | Nechckn_BetaNow | 1116 pieces of spam in my junk folder, 1116 pieces of spam. You download one, you forward along, 1115 pieces of spam... |
07:41.00 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
07:41.11 | ScytheBlade1 | That has possibility |
07:41.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Almost too much possibility |
07:41.29 | Nechckn_BetaNow | I thought so anyway... but I'm crazy |
07:41.33 | Nechckn_BetaNow | ;-) |
07:41.55 | ScytheBlade1 | If you're not crazy, I'm going you once, kindly, to leave |
07:41.55 | ScytheBlade1 | ;) |
07:44.18 | ScytheBlade1 | THUNDERBIRD NOT SAVING MY MAIL FILTERS GETS OLD QUICKLY. |
07:44.21 | ScytheBlade1 | </emo> |
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07:55.28 | ScytheBlade1 | http://pastey.net/83134 |
07:55.35 | ScytheBlade1 | And that, is why you update your system more often |
08:02.57 | |pez| | I should back up my laptop before it goes... BOOM! |
08:03.11 | |pez| | and I was totally scrolled up... -__- |
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08:22.01 | wereHamster | ScytheBlade1, with that many spam messages you can train your spam filter :) |
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08:40.25 | |pez| | Well that's interesting. |
08:40.48 | |pez| | Just read a article about a mayor in the US who's been asked to resign... because of pictures taken for a fitnesscontest. |
08:41.05 | |pez| | Which happened to be done before she ever ran as mayor. |
08:41.47 | Corrodias | asked by some twit |
08:41.57 | |pez| | And people are saying she's a bad rolemodel, because she allowed herself to be taken pictures off in her underwear... |
08:42.02 | Corrodias | and only "asked" without any true authority behind it |
08:42.40 | |pez| | I see this person, not knowing much about her really, as a good rolemodel, it shows that you can get places in life, and actually keep fit at the same time. :P |
08:42.53 | |pez| | not just "augh, tired" and sit on your ass when you get home from work. |
08:42.59 | Corrodias | you don't have to be an ugly old man to have a position of power |
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08:43.57 | Corrodias | well, anyway, it's long past time for me to sleep. 'ni |
08:44.08 | |pez| | ninight |
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09:01.45 | batrick | Shirik: what instrument do you play |
09:01.50 | Shirik | cello |
09:01.56 | batrick | no shit |
09:02.05 | batrick | violin here :) |
09:02.10 | Shirik | played it for about... 10 years almost |
09:02.39 | batrick | favorite composer? |
09:02.53 | haste | cello is the most awesome instrument ever |
09:03.00 | haste | and you better answer edward elgar to that question! |
09:03.17 | Shirik | batrick: Vivaldi most likely |
09:03.24 | Shirik | I never really thought about it |
09:03.26 | haste | Shirik: http://youtube.com/watch?v=L5C99JyP2ns |
09:03.29 | batrick | eh |
09:03.37 | Shirik | no I take that back |
09:03.37 | batrick | I suppose because your a celloist |
09:03.40 | Shirik | no, yeah Vivaldi |
09:03.44 | batrick | close enough to who is the best tho |
09:03.51 | Shirik | he had some really cool cello solos/duets |
09:03.51 | haste | watch that one |
09:03.53 | batrick | (J.S. Bach is best) |
09:04.00 | Shirik | JS Bach is good too |
09:04.12 | batrick | and if you don't think so you need to listen to Fugue in D minor |
09:04.21 | batrick | the best piece of music ever written |
09:04.48 | Shirik | I love this song praeludium and allegro |
09:04.51 | Shirik | I'm trying ot remember who wrote it |
09:04.54 | Shirik | it's a violin soli |
09:05.35 | Shirik | here we go |
09:05.36 | Shirik | http://youtube.com/watch?v=kkzTMD-iC3w |
09:05.41 | Shirik | Though I think he's completely playing that wrong |
09:05.46 | Shirik | it should be played a LOT slower at the beginning |
09:06.21 | Shirik | Much better: http://youtube.com/watch?v=GwvqpoFgSxU&feature=related |
09:06.40 | Shirik | sounds even better with an orchestra behind it :) |
09:07.09 | Shirik | uh |
09:07.10 | Shirik | wtf? |
09:07.13 | Shirik | She ended it? |
09:07.21 | Shirik | lol she started over |
09:08.13 | batrick | http://youtube.com/watch?v=6lIxxBLp8fU |
09:08.21 | batrick | i used to play that |
09:08.28 | batrick | the third movement is really good |
09:09.09 | Shirik | wtf |
09:09.10 | batrick | they actually use a harpsichord |
09:09.12 | Shirik | who put scorpid sting on me |
09:09.16 | Shirik | sorry I'm in AV >< |
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09:10.04 | fromatz | eh, DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("Hello World!") wont work in my addon |
09:10.23 | batrick | clearly you're doing something wrong then |
09:10.39 | fromatz | everything else works though... hooking problem? |
09:11.43 | batrick | pretty sure you can't hook AddMessage although I could be wrong |
09:11.52 | batrick | does blizz let you access that metatable? |
09:11.54 | fromatz | hmmm im stumped then |
09:12.25 | Shirik | You can hook it |
09:12.31 | batrick | if getmetatable(DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME) returns a table then it can be hooked :P |
09:12.47 | Shirik | don't do that, just do DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME.AddMessage = ... |
09:13.02 | nevcairiel | batrick: you basically hook ChatFrame1:AddMessage up to ChatFrame8:AddMessage :P |
09:13.03 | batrick | o right,... duh |
09:13.39 | fromatz | any good places i can read about hooking besides wow wiki? |
09:13.45 | batrick | i forgot all frames have table wrappers :) |
09:13.54 | batrick | fromatz: there's not much to read |
09:13.58 | batrick | concept is pretty simple |
09:14.26 | batrick | do local r = realfunction; function funcname(...) --[[ do stuff]] return r(...) end |
09:14.30 | batrick | end |
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09:15.01 | batrick | to be well behaved you need to return _all_ the args you were passed to the real function |
09:16.02 | fromatz | is there a common diagnosis for something not being hooked properly? |
09:16.18 | batrick | Shirik: http://youtube.com/watch?v=hRLyj5iEZag&watch_response |
09:16.21 | batrick | that piece is amazing |
09:16.30 | Shirik | no, you know what's amazing? |
09:16.38 | Shirik | oh yeah I know that song |
09:16.44 | Shirik | piece |
09:16.46 | Shirik | whatever you want to clal it |
09:16.47 | batrick | I've played it, it's great |
09:16.48 | Shirik | it's 4am |
09:17.11 | Shirik | http://youtube.com/watch?v=rIblSjokHyQ |
09:17.13 | Shirik | I've played that |
09:17.14 | Shirik | that's fun |
09:19.19 | foxlit | xpantivirus popups on wowhead? |
09:19.46 | Shirik | ? |
09:20.13 | Thrae | New Official Nvidia Drivers released -- version 174.16. Nvidia's version only installs on Series 9 chipsets. TweakForce has their version tweaked for best performance and to install for 6,7,8, and 9 chipsets: http://www.tweakforce.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=1 |
09:20.17 | foxlit | And the annoying thing is that they actually manage to mess with safari Chrome |
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09:21.57 | Shirik | admit it batrick |
09:22.02 | Shirik | that piece is awesome |
09:22.12 | batrick | I'm still listening :P |
09:22.16 | batrick | but ya I like vivaldi |
09:22.20 | batrick | I like bach more tho :P |
09:22.43 | batrick | bach had polyphonic music down |
09:23.15 | Shirik | a lot of times, I think there's just way too much going on in bach's pieces |
09:23.18 | Shirik | they're still really good |
09:23.22 | Shirik | just a lot going on |
09:23.28 | batrick | polyphonic :) |
09:23.32 | Shirik | I know |
09:23.41 | Shirik | and I'm saying it's too much :P |
09:23.41 | batrick | I can listen to fugue for hours (literally) and never tire of it |
09:25.06 | Shirik | we never really did get movement 3 right |
09:25.11 | Shirik | Now that I'm listening to this again |
09:25.13 | Shirik | they did it pretty well |
09:25.46 | Shirik | Conductor whacked me with the baton during the performance too :( |
09:25.54 | batrick | lmao |
09:25.55 | Shirik | Because I screwed up the part that he told me I was going to screw up |
09:26.01 | Kalroth | hahaha |
09:26.02 | Shirik | he was like that :P |
09:26.11 | Shirik | Our orchestra was awesome, and he was the coolest guy ever |
09:26.28 | Shirik | we played power stone for the rest of the week after a performance during class |
09:26.28 | Shirik | lol |
09:28.34 | Shirik | wtf is druid of the grove? |
09:29.21 | foxlit | http://browsershots.org/screenshots/5d36361e839e18b9cd7a47d494bbeace/ |
09:29.36 | foxlit | There, now I just have to figure out how that got there |
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09:30.41 | Wobin_ | <3 Polyphony |
09:30.50 | Kalroth | foxlit >< |
09:31.31 | Wobin_ | we're doing Bach's St John Passion |
09:31.37 | foxlit | Problem is, they only serve me with the jewelry ad :( |
09:31.42 | Wobin_ | So. Much. Fun =) |
09:31.50 | Wobin_ | KREUTZIGER! KREUTZIGER! |
09:31.51 | Shirik | wait, which bach? |
09:32.12 | Shirik | you know what, let's take a step back |
09:32.15 | Shirik | batrick |
09:32.17 | Shirik | which JS >< |
09:32.23 | Shirik | THE J.S. or Johann Sebastian? |
09:32.41 | batrick | there is only one :P |
09:32.47 | Shirik | there's two |
09:32.59 | batrick | Wobin_: http://youtube.com/watch?v=GVu0auaZu7s |
09:33.08 | batrick | E Power Biggs is fucking amazing |
09:33.17 | batrick | best organist of the 20th century imo |
09:33.23 | Wobin_ | What a great name |
09:33.45 | Shirik | I do have to admit batrick |
09:33.56 | batrick | Shirik: what are the two JS's that you speak of |
09:34.00 | Wobin_ | my reference is to Johannes Sebastian |
09:34.01 | batrick | I know only one off the top of my head |
09:34.01 | Shirik | toccata & fugue is a crazy good piece |
09:34.12 | batrick | if there's another I've relegated it to worthless info in my brain |
09:34.13 | Wobin_ | -es |
09:34.30 | batrick | ok |
09:34.33 | Shirik | batrick: I know of another one, but I have only ever heard of him by the name "J.S." But I KNOW it's not Johann Sebastian |
09:34.44 | batrick | 1685-1750 JS BACH |
09:34.46 | batrick | that one!!! |
09:34.47 | batrick | ffs |
09:34.48 | batrick | lol |
09:35.08 | batrick | Johann Sebastian Bach IS JS Bach |
09:35.15 | Shirik | I disagree |
09:35.23 | Shirik | I shall prove you wrong at a later date |
09:35.36 | batrick | uh ok |
09:36.10 | Wobin_ | <PROTECTED> |
09:36.11 | Wobin_ | <PROTECTED> |
09:36.11 | Wobin_ | <PROTECTED> |
09:36.11 | Wobin_ | <PROTECTED> |
09:36.11 | Wobin_ | <PROTECTED> |
09:36.11 | Wobin_ | <PROTECTED> |
09:36.13 | Wobin_ | <PROTECTED> |
09:36.28 | Wobin_ | I've only ever known the one JS Bach =P |
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09:38.37 | Shirik | YES! I found it! |
09:38.44 | Shirik | I once tried to make a MIDI of this. Didn't come out very well: http://www.harrogate.co.uk/harrogate-band/deathw.jpg |
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09:39.24 | |pez| | scary |
09:39.59 | |pez| | if I played a instrument, and got a paper like that, I'd scream and run the other way. |
09:40.09 | Wobin_ | "Have a nice day" |
09:40.15 | Wobin_ | "Release the penguins!" |
09:40.30 | Shirik | I especially like the optional shoe horn |
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09:40.39 | Wobin_ | 7? |
09:40.40 | |pez| | "remove cattle from stage" |
09:40.41 | Wobin_ | jesus |
09:40.50 | Shirik | 7 what? |
09:40.53 | Wobin_ | hemi-demi-semi... need four more levels =P |
09:40.59 | Shirik | oh haha |
09:40.59 | krka | Shirik: which other J S is there? |
09:41.01 | krka | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bach_(disambiguation) |
09:41.06 | krka | this page doesn't list any other, but one J C |
09:41.08 | Wobin_ | krka: I just pasted that above |
09:41.10 | Shirik | krka, we've already been over this |
09:41.14 | Shirik | I will get to the bottom of it |
09:41.19 | Shirik | just give me time |
09:41.28 | krka | oh sorry Wobin_ |
09:41.35 | Shirik | oh yeah, and Wobin_, most important part is not even in the music |
09:41.44 | Shirik | It is in the composer info |
09:41.56 | Wobin_ | hehe |
09:42.00 | Wobin_ | Arranged by accident =) |
09:42.31 | Shirik | Anyway, yeah, I tried to make a midi out of this |
09:42.39 | Shirik | but I gave up when I realized my composer won't let me do triple flats |
09:42.59 | Shirik | lua> 2^16 |
09:42.59 | lua_bot | Shirik: 65536 |
09:43.15 | Shirik | or sixty-five-thousand-five-hundred-thirty-sixth notes |
09:43.20 | Wobin_ | damn |
09:43.28 | Wobin_ | what sort of shoddy composer doesn't allow that? =P |
09:44.03 | Wobin_ | hm |
09:44.14 | Wobin_ | why are there no good recordings of St John Passion on youtube? |
09:44.27 | |pez| | mm, cold bacon |
09:44.31 | foxlit | oh fs |
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09:44.45 | foxlit | addynamix actually does some logic on which ads they serve :( |
09:45.07 | foxlit | so poking them from the same place is hopeless |
09:45.12 | |pez| | foxlit? |
09:45.15 | Wobin_ | rofl |
09:45.16 | batrick | LMFAO |
09:45.20 | batrick | "Gong Duet" |
09:45.23 | batrick | they have those? |
09:45.24 | batrick | lol! |
09:45.24 | Wobin_ | seeing the Passion in spanish is fantastic |
09:45.45 | foxlit | |pez|: I want to track down who served a particular ad |
09:46.00 | Wobin_ | "Que cargo presentias contra este hombre?" |
09:46.21 | Wobin_ | "Si non fuere non criminal!" |
09:46.21 | batrick | Shirik: that piece of music is rediculous |
09:47.22 | Maldivia | hmm... my Spanish is very rusty... something about charges against humanity? |
09:47.46 | Wobin_ | Why do you bring this man before me? |
09:47.59 | Wobin_ | "If he were not a criminal we would not have" |
09:48.07 | Wobin_ | or something to that effect |
09:48.11 | Wobin_ | this is just subtitles =) |
09:48.25 | Maldivia | well, that what you get for one year of spanish lessons, over 10 years ago :) |
09:48.36 | Maldivia | can't remember shit apparently :) |
09:48.58 | Wobin_ | Although I admit |
09:49.02 | Wobin_ | singing in German is great |
09:49.14 | Shirik | hast |
09:49.15 | Shirik | du hast |
09:49.18 | Wobin_ | "Ware dieser nicht ein Ubeltater!" |
09:49.25 | Wobin_ | Such a great word |
09:49.27 | Maldivia | I was just waiting for someone to start Ramstein :9 |
09:49.29 | Wobin_ | UBELTATER |
09:49.59 | Wobin_ | http://youtube.com/watch?v=rqvd_TwfYqE&feature=related |
09:50.03 | Shirik | http://youtube.com/watch?v=Mm2eT-sTVys |
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09:50.27 | Wobin_ | KREUZIGE! |
09:52.40 | Wobin_ | rofl: http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.wordpress.com/ |
09:52.47 | Wobin_ | (complete change in topic) |
09:55.59 | batrick | Shirik: chess? |
09:56.04 | Shirik | do it |
09:56.05 | batrick | i r bored |
09:56.08 | batrick | e4 |
09:56.10 | Shirik | er |
09:56.12 | Shirik | give me a second |
09:56.17 | Shirik | you're going to be white this time huh? :( |
09:56.31 | batrick | doesn't rly matter |
09:57.37 | Shirik | 1. e4; e5 |
09:59.32 | foxlit | amazing |
09:59.39 | Shirik | uh |
09:59.41 | Shirik | batrick? |
09:59.57 | foxlit | About ~7 hops across different domains just to get back to fastclick :/ |
09:59.59 | Shirik | doesn't usually take 2 minutes for an opening move >< |
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10:00.29 | batrick | Bc4 |
10:00.37 | foxlit | which bounces off another domain back to itself |
10:01.45 | batrick | damn it |
10:01.47 | foxlit | http://browsershots.org/screenshots/c10cc8b1e8a63cb55152e5bffc6b7866/ if only that viewed source :( |
10:01.49 | Shirik | ? |
10:02.04 | batrick | I forgot which spot was ruy lopez for bishop |
10:02.08 | batrick | i'm off by one diagonal |
10:02.09 | batrick | lmao |
10:02.14 | Shirik | haha |
10:02.29 | batrick | o well |
10:03.05 | Shirik | I was wondering what that was |
10:03.08 | Shirik | it's kinda atypical :P |
10:05.00 | batrick | man and u said i took my time! |
10:05.05 | Shirik | yeah well |
10:05.05 | batrick | 5 minutes! |
10:05.07 | Shirik | I have a little problem here |
10:05.18 | Shirik | And I'm weighing the consequences of it |
10:05.48 | batrick | checkmate in 22 |
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10:06.17 | Shirik | yeah ok |
10:07.02 | Shirik | e3 |
10:07.11 | Shirik | do it |
10:07.12 | Shirik | I dare you |
10:07.48 | batrick | e3 huh? |
10:07.58 | batrick | you got your shit mixed up again |
10:07.59 | Shirik | I mean f |
10:07.59 | batrick | d3? |
10:08.00 | |pez| | This is the strangest invoice I've gotten ever. |
10:08.02 | batrick | err |
10:08.03 | batrick | d6 |
10:08.05 | batrick | ? |
10:08.12 | Shirik | f6 >< |
10:08.12 | batrick | so f6? |
10:08.15 | batrick | lolz |
10:08.15 | Shirik | This is why I hate black >< |
10:08.21 | |pez| | ah, jeez, are you guys playing chess again? :P |
10:08.28 | Shirik | maybe |
10:09.45 | Shirik | do it batrick |
10:09.47 | Shirik | I know you want to |
10:09.51 | Shirik | you're eyeing it like a hawk |
10:09.51 | batrick | no! |
10:09.51 | batrick | ' |
10:09.59 | Shirik | you see your prey |
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10:10.22 | |pez| | When you haven't paid a invoice... and get a reminder of it with some extra charges... what's that called? |
10:10.33 | batrick | getting fucked. |
10:10.37 | Shirik | rofl |
10:11.00 | batrick | d4 |
10:11.01 | Shirik | kimi ga kawareba, sekai mo kawaru |
10:11.30 | |pez| | Anyway, I got one of those, and they've magically managed to nullify the amount I owe... and just have the extra charges as the total... |
10:11.38 | Shirik | rofl |
10:11.42 | |pez| | so I'm sitting here thinking... wtf. |
10:11.51 | |pez| | I'm gonna pay this, and hope it automagically goes away. |
10:11.59 | |pez| | atleast until I get money to pay the real amount. -___ |
10:12.00 | Shirik | That's kinda like that one time I got a late notice from Brighthouse which then said I owed $80 |
10:12.00 | |pez| | - |
10:12.00 | batrick | don't do it |
10:12.03 | batrick | pez |
10:12.05 | Shirik | instead of $40 |
10:12.08 | batrick | abuse your power as a consumer |
10:12.19 | Shirik | So then I paid the $80 and the next bill said $-40 |
10:12.25 | batrick | call them and demand to know why you, a long time customer, are being forced to pay charges |
10:12.26 | Shirik | they should pay ME interest! |
10:12.29 | batrick | then speak to the manager |
10:12.33 | Shirik | ~lart batrick |
10:12.33 | purl | puts batrick into a headlock and administers a mighty noogie, rubbing half of batrick's hair of |
10:12.37 | batrick | you'll win in the end |
10:12.53 | |pez| | batrick: this would alert them to the fact that... oh, hey, we forgot to add the actuall amount she owes ;P |
10:14.18 | |pez| | So I'd rather just pay the thing, and hope for them to realize this later, when I'm able to pay the amount I do owe. |
10:14.46 | Shirik | Nc6 |
10:15.15 | Tem|AFK | nc17? |
10:15.16 | Tem|AFK | what? |
10:15.51 | batrick | Nf3 |
10:16.03 | cncfanatics | hello all |
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10:17.14 | Tem|AFK | oh are you guys playin chess again? |
10:17.30 | nevcairiel | yes they are |
10:17.39 | Tem|AFK | Qxh5 imo |
10:18.17 | Shirik | Nge7 |
10:19.28 | nevcairiel | i bet Shirik has soem clone of deep blue playing against batrick there |
10:19.34 | Shirik | lol |
10:19.46 | Shirik | deep blue wouldn't take this long hopefully |
10:20.07 | nevcairiel | you add latency to make it "real" :p |
10:20.57 | batrick | dxe5 |
10:21.08 | Shirik | interesting |
10:21.22 | Shirik | cxe5 |
10:21.24 | Shirik | er |
10:21.26 | Shirik | fxe5 |
10:21.53 | batrick | Nxe5 |
10:21.54 | Shirik | I played through that scenario several times in my head |
10:21.59 | Shirik | I'm not sure what I missed that convinced you to do it |
10:22.00 | batrick | o damn it |
10:22.01 | batrick | LOL |
10:22.04 | batrick | o wait |
10:22.05 | batrick | no i'm ok |
10:22.25 | Shirik | Nxe5 |
10:23.17 | Shirik | oh wow |
10:23.21 | Shirik | I thought you had a mate for a second |
10:23.22 | Shirik | that was scary |
10:24.11 | batrick | Qh5+ |
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10:25.39 | Shirik | Ng3 |
10:25.44 | Shirik | er sorry |
10:25.54 | Shirik | Ne7g3 |
10:26.58 | Shirik | I suggest you try to get yourself out of the hole before you start digging new ones for me >< |
10:27.02 | Shirik | but I'm a passive player |
10:27.04 | Shirik | take that as it is |
10:27.21 | nevcairiel | offense is the best defense |
10:27.33 | Shirik | I hate that philosophy |
10:27.33 | nevcairiel | specially against passive players :P |
10:27.46 | batrick | f4 |
10:28.11 | Shirik | umm |
10:28.12 | Shirik | ok |
10:28.26 | Shirik | this could be interesting |
10:28.31 | Shirik | you wanted aggresive, nevcairiel, you got it. |
10:28.50 | nevcairiel | i'll take your word for it .. :P |
10:29.19 | Shirik | wait |
10:29.19 | Shirik | eg |
10:29.21 | Shirik | that's ugly |
10:30.28 | Shirik | batrick, I know you're not stupid |
10:30.31 | Shirik | wtf am I missing here |
10:31.01 | Shirik | oh well |
10:31.09 | Shirik | Nxc4 |
10:32.15 | batrick | f5 |
10:32.42 | Shirik | Qh4+ |
10:32.53 | Shirik | there you go nevcairiel |
10:32.56 | Shirik | the move I was referring to earlier |
10:35.13 | batrick | haha |
10:35.23 | batrick | Qxh4 |
10:35.34 | Shirik | Nxh4 |
10:38.10 | Shirik | I like how my pawn structure is nonexistent |
10:38.50 | batrick | 0-0 |
10:38.59 | batrick | purl: say --> your_move() |
10:39.00 | purl | --> your_move() |
10:39.00 | batbot | purl: > e4 |
10:39.01 | purl | it has been said that e4 is 1.7e4 |
10:39.01 | batbot | purl: say --> my_move('f6') |
10:39.02 | purl | --> my_move('f6') |
10:39.02 | batbot | purl: > d4 |
10:39.03 | batbot | purl: say --> my_move('g5') |
10:39.04 | purl | --> my_move('g5') |
10:39.04 | batbot | purl: > Bh5++ |
10:39.12 | batrick | ffs |
10:39.21 | Shirik | wtf? |
10:41.00 | Shirik | d4 |
10:41.05 | Shirik | d5* |
10:41.41 | batrick | f6 |
10:44.27 | batrick | O well |
10:44.45 | batrick | at least batbot checkmated purl~ |
10:44.49 | Shirik | lol |
10:46.11 | batrick | c'mon shirik! |
10:47.20 | Shirik | Bg4 |
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10:49.10 | batrick | Rf4 |
10:50.57 | Shirik | Bc5+ |
10:51.14 | batrick | I sense lord vader is in danger |
10:51.46 | Tem|AFK | I find your lack of faith disturbing |
10:52.02 | batrick | Kh1 |
10:54.55 | Shirik | Ne5 |
10:54.56 | Shirik | what a mess |
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10:56.08 | batrick | h3 |
10:56.09 | batrick | haha |
10:57.59 | Shirik | this should be interesting |
10:58.08 | Shirik | batrick, you're probably about to see how much I suck at endgame |
10:58.17 | batrick | heh |
10:58.26 | Shirik | Bf3 |
10:58.44 | Maldivia | endgame... that's when you die, right? :) |
11:00.07 | batrick | Rxh4 |
11:01.05 | Shirik | oops |
11:01.13 | Shirik | like I said |
11:02.37 | Shirik | oh well |
11:02.40 | Shirik | here goes nothing |
11:02.50 | Shirik | dxe4 |
11:03.02 | batrick | the hell |
11:03.19 | batrick | gxf3 |
11:04.50 | Shirik | 0-0-0 |
11:06.16 | batrick | fxg7 |
11:07.11 | Shirik | Na1+ |
11:07.17 | Shirik | er |
11:07.18 | Shirik | rofl |
11:07.20 | Shirik | not even close |
11:07.26 | Shirik | Nd1+ |
11:07.30 | Shirik | NO |
11:07.32 | Shirik | Rd1+ |
11:07.34 | Shirik | there we go |
11:08.09 | batrick | Kg2 |
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11:09.09 | Shirik | I think mate in 2 |
11:09.32 | Shirik | Rg1+ |
11:11.02 | batrick | yup |
11:11.03 | batrick | gg |
11:11.11 | batrick | crazy offense award goes 2 me tho |
11:11.16 | cladhaire | Shirik: what doesn't my bot support? |
11:11.19 | cladhaire | I wasn't on, but got the ping :P |
11:11.41 | Shirik | Kh1, Nf3++ |
11:11.43 | Shirik | gg batrick |
11:11.46 | Shirik | and yes, it does >< |
11:11.59 | Shirik | mm, cladhaire, did I ping you? |
11:12.01 | Shirik | when was this? |
11:12.16 | cladhaire | #lua |
11:12.18 | cladhaire | last 24 hours |
11:12.24 | cladhaire | just talking about something the bot doesn't support |
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11:12.41 | Shirik | oh |
11:12.42 | Shirik | (17:46:30) (Shirik) math.mod is deprecated |
11:12.42 | Shirik | (17:46:37) (Shirik) and not supported on clad|office's bot |
11:12.52 | cladhaire | ah okay |
11:12.53 | cladhaire | thanks :P |
11:12.57 | Shirik | np |
11:13.15 | Shirik | batrick you had me scared for a while |
11:13.33 | Shirik | you moved that rook to threaten the bishop and knight and I'm like "oh shit" |
11:13.47 | Shirik | and then you took the bishop and I was like "Oh yeah, that's why I didn't want to do that |
11:14.11 | batrick | heh |
11:14.12 | Shirik | nevcairiel, you were right! |
11:14.17 | Shirik | being aggressive wins |
11:14.22 | batrick | I believe I had something but I didn't want to spend long looking at it |
11:14.23 | nevcairiel | heh |
11:14.51 | Shirik | you made a big mistake early on batrick |
11:15.07 | Shirik | gg though |
11:16.09 | batrick | my mistake was assuming I could get my knight back with material and favorable position |
11:16.29 | batrick | but in my haste I missed the simple Ng6 (for either knight) |
11:16.50 | batrick | o well fun game |
11:16.51 | batrick | night |
11:16.55 | Shirik | night |
11:17.14 | Shirik | so it's 1-1 now |
11:17.22 | batrick | cladhaire: what did you mean earlier about batbot? |
11:17.23 | Shirik | tune in next time to the battle of the computer engineers |
11:17.33 | batrick | I don't find not outputting anything when there's nothing to output fine |
11:17.50 | cladhaire | It seems confusing to me |
11:17.53 | cladhaire | if you give the bot a comand |
11:17.58 | cladhaire | and get no response |
11:17.59 | cladhaire | lua> f = 1 |
11:17.59 | lua_bot | cladhaire: No output |
11:18.07 | cladhaire | its more responsive |
11:18.09 | batrick | ya I know luabot does that |
11:18.13 | cladhaire | just was mentioning that |
11:18.17 | batrick | from my pov I find that distasteful :) |
11:18.25 | cladhaire | Well, it's confusing |
11:18.29 | cladhaire | it seemed like the bot was ignoring me |
11:18.36 | cladhaire | to each his own |
11:18.38 | batrick | kinda like the bash (and most shells) design choice to not say anything if there is nothing to say :) |
11:18.43 | Shirik | --> foo = 1; |
11:18.57 | cladhaire | uhh |
11:18.58 | Shirik | --> function f() foo = foo + 1; return foo end |
11:18.59 | cladhaire | you get a prompt back |
11:19.01 | cladhaire | so yes, it does respond |
11:19.09 | Shirik | --> foo() |
11:19.09 | batbot | Shirik: @ [string "return foo()"]:1: attempt to call global 'foo' (a number value) |
11:19.16 | batrick | well that's digging a little deep into what I mean there but sure |
11:19.16 | Shirik | --> f() |
11:19.16 | batbot | Shirik: > 2 |
11:19.21 | Shirik | --> return foo |
11:19.22 | batbot | Shirik: > 2 |
11:19.26 | cladhaire | the point is |
11:19.27 | Shirik | batrick: How did you handle that? |
11:19.27 | cladhaire | when you type a command |
11:19.34 | cladhaire | you want a response |
11:19.42 | Shirik | lua> foo = 1; function f() foo = foo + 1; end |
11:19.42 | lua_bot | Shirik: No output |
11:19.47 | Shirik | lua> f(); |
11:19.48 | lua_bot | Shirik: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'f' (a nil value) |
11:19.56 | Shirik | aw boo, no persistence yet? :( |
11:20.05 | batrick | Shirik: huh? |
11:20.13 | Shirik | --> foo = 1; function f() foo = foo + 1; end |
11:20.19 | Shirik | --> f() |
11:20.22 | batrick | cladhaire: I wrote up a serialization system if you want to see it |
11:20.22 | Shirik | --> print(foo) |
11:20.22 | batbot | Shirik: 2 |
11:20.30 | Shirik | don't you run it twice? |
11:20.32 | batrick | it's quite nice imo and lets you keep the global environment entact |
11:20.40 | cladhaire | sure |
11:20.43 | Shirik | once normally, then once prepended with "return" ? |
11:21.06 | batrick | sec |
11:24.22 | batrick | cladhaire: http://unm.edu/~batrick/files/serialize.lua |
11:24.43 | cladhaire | does this use your altered core? |
11:24.47 | batrick | it handles upvalues, and sharing them (using those functions i posted on lua-l |
11:24.53 | batrick | you can remove those very easily |
11:24.59 | batrick | it's a small section |
11:26.12 | batrick | you use this: serialize.dump(_G, "_G", somefilehandle, 1000) |
11:26.29 | batrick | 1000 being the max number of serialized values allowed |
11:26.33 | batrick | e.g. strings or functions |
11:26.51 | Shirik | --> string.dump(debug.getlocal) |
11:26.51 | batbot | b0000@./sandbox.lua0X000l0000\aV000Å0000 |
11:26.51 | batbot | @À |
11:26.51 | batbot | €0Ü€0 |
11:26.52 | batbot | À€Ä000 |
11:26.52 | batbot | 00€ |
11:26.52 | batbot | A0000€ |
11:26.52 | batbot | Á@A0000€ |
11:26.52 | batbot | Ú000@ |
11:26.52 | batbot | 0AÁ |
11:26.52 | batbot | Þ000@r€Ä0€ |
11:26.55 | Shirik | hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm |
11:27.37 | batrick | the really important thing is not replacing _G with a new table but using the current one |
11:27.58 | batrick | I was thinking about a very interesting design you could use as well |
11:28.12 | batrick | you could put a "pre-serialized" _G at the end of the function |
11:28.16 | batrick | file* not function |
11:29.09 | batrick | actually, nvm |
11:29.09 | batrick | lol |
11:34.09 | batrick | cladhaire: http://unm.edu/~batrick/files/serialize.mod.lua |
11:34.15 | batrick | easy :) |
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11:35.52 | batrick | It's faster than DataDumper (which was a rather large concern for me) and is a lot smaller :) |
11:38.06 | Shirik | --> f = setmetatable({}, {__protected = true}); return debug.getmetatable(f) |
11:38.06 | batbot | Shirik: @ cannot access protected metatable |
11:38.08 | Shirik | =( |
11:38.22 | Shirik | I inverse hacked batbot |
11:38.34 | Shirik | In soviet russia, batbot breaks you! |
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11:47.22 | wereHamster | does batbot have any tables that are currently protected? |
11:47.34 | Shirik | batbot has ... a lot of tables protected |
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11:48.17 | batrick | --> val and {} |
11:48.17 | batbot | batrick: > nil |
11:48.32 | Shirik | well that's awesome |
11:48.35 | Shirik | how did you manage that one? |
11:52.59 | batrick | --> t = setmetatable({}, {__index = function(t,k) print(t,k) return nil end}) |
11:53.02 | batrick | --> t[nil] |
11:53.02 | batbot | batrick: > nil |
11:53.02 | batbot | batrick: table: 0x80d8c60 nil |
11:53.06 | batrick | wow. |
11:53.33 | nevcairiel | whats so amazing about that now? |
11:54.26 | Kalroth | --> t[t[nil]] |
11:54.26 | batbot | Kalroth: > nil |
11:54.26 | batbot | Kalroth: table: 0x80d8c60 niltable: 0x80d8c60 nil |
11:54.31 | Kalroth | Yay! |
11:55.28 | batrick | cladhaire: I had to fix a tiny bug in it you should download the mod version again :P |
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11:56.23 | batrick | anyways i'm going to sleep |
11:56.30 | batrick | let me knokw if you end up using it clad |
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12:24.58 | Shirik | oh I'm close |
12:25.00 | Shirik | I'm very close |
12:25.38 | Fisker- | i'm close to you too |
12:26.53 | Kalroth | kinky |
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12:30.27 | [dRaCo] | "Jumping onto an elevator can cause disconnection, crashes or falling through the world." |
12:30.29 | [dRaCo] | fun |
12:31.13 | Shirik | Wellllllll |
12:31.15 | Shirik | I broke batbot |
12:31.21 | Shirik | unfortunately, before I could do something really evil |
12:31.28 | Shirik | I broke it enough that I can't do it anymore :( |
12:31.38 | JoshBorke | gj :-) |
12:31.52 | Shirik | batbot: setfenv(1, {}) |
12:31.57 | Shirik | --> setfenv(1, {}) |
12:31.57 | batbot | Shirik: @ ./sandbox.lua:322: attempt to call global 'type' (a nil value) |
12:31.58 | Shirik | :< |
12:32.49 | Shirik | --> printf("Test") |
12:32.49 | batbot | Shirik: > Test |
12:32.49 | batbot | Shirik: Test |
12:34.00 | Kalroth | --> print(nil) |
12:34.00 | batbot | Kalroth: nil |
12:34.04 | Kalroth | hrmf |
12:34.08 | Kalroth | --> print(t[nil]) |
12:34.09 | batbot | Kalroth: @ [string "return print(t[nil])"]:1: attempt to index global 't' (a nil value) |
12:34.14 | Shirik | I can't even fix it |
12:34.18 | Shirik | (batbot) Shirik: @ cannot change secure functions environment |
12:34.18 | Kalroth | How can that be an error! |
12:34.28 | Shirik | because t is nil? |
12:34.30 | Shirik | which it is? |
12:34.38 | Kalroth | well duh, I said it should be nil! |
12:35.03 | Kalroth | --> print(nil*inf) |
12:35.03 | batbot | Kalroth: @ [string "return print(nil*inf)"]:1: attempt to perform arithmetic on a nil value |
12:35.11 | Kalroth | darn |
12:35.16 | Kalroth | --> print(inf/o) |
12:35.16 | batbot | Kalroth: @ [string "return print(inf/o)"]:1: attempt to perform arithmetic on global 'inf' (a nil value) |
12:35.25 | Kalroth | --> print(0/0) |
12:35.25 | batbot | Kalroth: nan |
12:35.32 | Kalroth | nananas? |
12:35.41 | Maldivia | Not A Number :) |
12:35.46 | Kalroth | I know ;) |
12:36.02 | Kalroth | --> print(0/8e234) |
12:36.02 | batbot | Kalroth: 0 |
12:36.05 | Kalroth | er |
12:36.07 | Maldivia | --> print("ba", 0/0, "a") |
12:36.07 | batbot | Maldivia: ba nan a |
12:36.13 | Kalroth | :D |
12:36.43 | nevcairiel | lol |
12:36.59 | Kalroth | --> print(0/0,"ers!") |
12:36.59 | batbot | Kalroth: nan ers! |
12:37.07 | Kalroth | aw, dual space |
12:37.13 | Kalroth | --> print((0/0).."ers!") |
12:37.13 | batbot | Kalroth: naners! |
12:37.16 | Kalroth | There! |
12:37.54 | Maldivia | --> print(2 * 1.#INF) |
12:37.54 | batbot | Maldivia: @ [string " print(2 * 1.#INF)"]:1: ')' expected near '#' |
12:38.28 | Maldivia | --> math.huge |
12:38.28 | batbot | Maldivia: > inf |
12:38.32 | Kalroth | :D |
12:38.55 | Maldivia | --> print(not math.huge == math.small) -- :) |
12:38.55 | batbot | Maldivia: false |
12:39.33 | Kalroth | haha |
12:40.12 | Kalroth | --> print((math.huge).."o: ba"..(0/0).."nas are good!") |
12:40.12 | batbot | Kalroth: info: banannas are good! |
12:40.19 | Kalroth | d'oh |
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12:40.46 | Maldivia | --> print(-math.huge) |
12:40.46 | batbot | Maldivia: -inf |
12:40.57 | Fisker- | --> print("cocksucker") |
12:40.58 | batbot | Fisker-: cocksucker |
12:41.00 | Fisker- | awesome |
12:41.22 | Fisker- | i wonder if it has filesystem access :P |
12:41.45 | lua_bot | Do you think he'd really be that stupid? |
12:41.59 | Fisker- | No |
12:42.03 | Tem|AFK | Fisker-, that's such an obvious hole that he has surely protected against it |
12:42.03 | Fisker- | But one can always hope |
12:42.09 | Tem|AFK | *eyeroll* |
12:42.09 | [dRaCo] | oh noes, it's the bots taking over |
12:42.13 | nevcairiel | clad is talking through his bot again? |
12:42.18 | lua_bot | Hope to cause someone problems.. that seems rather mean |
12:42.21 | Tem|AFK | get `im lua_bot |
12:42.32 | lua_bot | --> print("heyas") |
12:42.32 | batbot | lua_bot: heyas |
12:42.38 | Kalroth | --> print("Lua is s"..(math.huge).."ul and contains a lot of hoote"..(0/0).."nies!") |
12:42.38 | batbot | Kalroth: Lua is sinful and contains a lot of hootenannies! |
12:42.48 | Maldivia | --> print(string.format("%x", 195936478)) |
12:42.48 | batbot | Maldivia: badc0de |
12:42.59 | nevcairiel | lol |
12:43.16 | Kalroth | --> print(string.format("%x", -559038737)) |
12:43.16 | batbot | Kalroth: deadbeef |
12:44.17 | Maldivia | --> print(string.format("Naah, more like: %x", 3735929054)) |
12:44.18 | batbot | Maldivia: Naah, more like: deadc0de |
12:45.05 | Kalroth | --> print(string.format("Nevcairiel is a %x", -889275714)) |
12:45.05 | batbot | Kalroth: Nevcairiel is a cafebabe |
12:45.11 | Wobin_ | hehe |
12:45.48 | Maldivia | go Java :) |
12:46.36 | Kalroth | --> print(string.format("Free porn at wow%x.com!", 2766)) |
12:46.36 | batbot | Kalroth: Free porn at wowace.com! |
12:47.33 | Wobin_ | now you're just abusing it =P |
12:47.35 | Tem|AFK | zomg where? |
12:48.04 | Kalroth | --> print(string.format("Tem listens to %x!! (last one, I promise)", 43962)) |
12:48.04 | batbot | Kalroth: Tem listens to abba!! (last one, I promise) |
12:48.27 | [dRaCo] | Daaaaaaaaaaancing Queen, young and sweet... |
12:48.45 | Maldivia | --> print(string.format("Yeah, stop before we all go %xnuts", 49344)) |
12:48.45 | batbot | Maldivia: Yeah, stop before we all go c0c0nuts |
12:48.54 | Tem|AFK | HA! I HAVE CRUSHED AN APPLE, FRUIT VENDOR! THIS WILL NOT BE THE LAST! |
12:50.11 | Kalroth | --> print(string.format("This bot is being %x, please evacuate the channel! (I lied)", 233811181)) |
12:50.11 | batbot | Kalroth: This bot is being defaced, please evacuate the channel! (I lied) |
12:50.12 | Maldivia | YOU HAVE FAILED ME, EXECUTUS! JUSTICE SHALL BE MET, INDEED! |
12:51.06 | Tem|AFK | by fire be purged imo |
12:51.12 | [dRaCo] | ya |
12:51.28 | Kalroth | http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=93613 o rly? |
12:52.17 | Kalroth | http://nedbatchelder.com/text/hexwords.html ;D |
12:55.48 | Kalroth | http://people.csail.mit.edu/rahimi/helmet/ useful information |
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13:32.43 | Fisker- | Good idea: Update your drivers |
13:33.04 | Fisker- | Bad idea: Disregard intended platforms and get stuck when it pulls the plug on the NIC |
13:33.31 | Fisker- | Btw anyone have an Asus P5K series? :P |
13:33.47 | Esine | maybe |
13:34.10 | Fisker- | My motherboard shuts off when i save settings |
13:34.12 | Fisker- | instead of just rebooting |
13:34.15 | Fisker- | seems kind of odd |
13:34.31 | Esine | well did it save the settings? |
13:34.33 | Fisker- | yes |
13:34.34 | Esine | bios settings I assume |
13:34.37 | Esine | or cmos |
13:34.39 | Fisker- | that's why it's odd |
13:34.44 | Esine | well then there's no problem right? |
13:34.56 | Fisker- | Well it would be good to know if it was intended to do that :P |
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13:35.04 | Fisker- | especially since i just updated the bios |
13:35.30 | Esine | Fisker-, google |
13:35.42 | Fisker- | google isn't my friend |
13:35.46 | Fisker- | i broke up with it |
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13:50.31 | Shirik | It took me forever, but |
13:50.35 | Shirik | --> getmetatable(_G) |
13:50.35 | batbot | Shirik: > Shirik wins. |
13:53.32 | Shirik | and now the finishing touch. |
13:53.53 | Kalroth | haha |
13:54.09 | Kalroth | --> print(_G[]) |
13:54.09 | batbot | Kalroth: @ [string " print(_G[])"]:1: unexpected symbol near ']' |
13:54.13 | Kalroth | --> print(_G) |
13:54.13 | batbot | Kalroth: table: 0x8092828 |
13:54.25 | Shirik | don't make me lock it again :P |
13:54.28 | Kalroth | :( |
13:54.29 | Shirik | I'm trying to finish up here |
13:54.39 | Shirik | Hey, batrick challenged me |
13:54.42 | Shirik | you know what he said? |
13:54.52 | [Ammo] | make it spew his /etc/passwd :p |
13:54.53 | Shirik | (07:04:17) (batrick) Shirik: if you break batbot i'll give you something shiny |
13:54.59 | Shirik | I need that shiny. |
13:55.09 | Shirik | granted it took me 2 hours |
13:55.11 | Shirik | BUT I DON'T CARE |
13:56.18 | Kalroth | haha |
13:56.24 | Shirik | bye bye batbot |
13:56.35 | Kalroth | poor batrick |
13:57.04 | Shirik | hey, he challenged me, and I warned him I saw something suspicious and that he could fix it. |
13:57.12 | Shirik | His response was that he was "99.9999% sure it was ok" |
13:57.18 | Shirik | and that he didn't think I could do it |
13:57.20 | Shirik | I can't tolerate that. |
13:58.11 | Shirik | Though I have to admit, it is not what I thought it was originally |
13:58.20 | Shirik | but it stemmed from a similar problem |
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13:59.21 | Shirik | [Ammo] I wish I could |
13:59.29 | Shirik | but he correctly nilled out inappropriate functions |
13:59.36 | Shirik | actually I don't wish I could; I wouldn't anyway |
13:59.54 | Shirik | but I would have done something similarly evil if I could have (like maybe create 1000 files on his computer; something non-destructive) |
14:00.47 | [Ammo] | new login welcome message :) |
14:00.53 | Shirik | Instead, to make the bot quit, I remembered an old bug that he patched temporarily while waiting for the real fix, and went in and undid his patch |
14:00.55 | Shirik | welcome message? |
14:01.06 | [Ammo] | assuming it runs on a unix box |
14:01.13 | Shirik | oh |
14:01.14 | [Ammo] | you can give him a new welcome message when he ssh's to the box :) |
14:01.23 | [Ammo] | big fat PWNED |
14:01.23 | Shirik | no os.execute() :( |
14:01.42 | Shirik | I basically only have access to the functions that you have normal access to |
14:01.49 | Shirik | But HOW I can access them is slightly different |
14:02.11 | Shirik | pcall is the important one -- normally he has pcall doing some checks. I.... modified his check slightly. |
14:02.19 | Shirik | Instead of only allowing 10 recursive pcalls, it allowed 10 thousand |
14:02.26 | Shirik | which didn't go so well |
14:02.35 | [Ammo] | so now it left |
14:02.43 | Shirik | yeah to go get drunk |
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14:08.40 | ralfWORK | HALLO THAR EVARYONE |
14:08.49 | [dRaCo] | hey captain capslock |
14:09.50 | ralfWORK | D: |
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14:48.20 | nevcairiel | Shirik: 64kb of ram required for a java application? hava alone uses 5mb =P |
14:48.31 | nevcairiel | *java |
14:48.56 | wereHamster | see, and I thoughd 640k was enough... |
14:50.41 | Wobin_ | Shirik: does the WoWI UIM require premium membership? |
14:53.00 | cladhaire | Wobin_: no |
14:53.05 | cladhaire | just a user account |
14:53.54 | Wobin_ | ah, the login box might need to be rephrased to indicate such |
14:54.01 | Wobin_ | http://omeow.ath.cx/waht.png |
14:54.14 | cladhaire | ah |
14:54.16 | cladhaire | hehe :P |
14:54.23 | cladhaire | indeed that would be good |
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15:30.35 | cladhaire | do you have the cookie, or the coffee? |
15:30.45 | zenzelezz | yes |
15:33.38 | Lopeppeppy | I can't have coffee, zenzelezz, and I just ate the last cookie for breakfast. |
15:35.04 | Lopeppeppy | You said you already had both, anyway. |
15:36.14 | zenzelezz | what's Gamefly? |
15:36.25 | |pez| | gamefly.com |
15:36.32 | |pez| | kinda like netflix, only with games. |
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15:36.48 | foxlit | !ping |
15:37.00 | foxlit | Hm, I wonder |
15:37.05 | |pez| | wonderponder |
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15:38.00 | |pez| | zenzelezz: there's g-vip.com but it doesn't seem awesome enough. |
15:42.46 | Maldivia | anyone looked at the combatlog while being mind controlled? |
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15:50.34 | |pez| | It's really a shame that one can't put tracking on letters without paying a shitload of money for it. |
15:51.01 | zenzelezz | you try running a postal service and you'll see why |
15:51.14 | zenzelezz | especially when the freaking privatized it so it's all about profits |
15:51.34 | |pez| | it is also a quite serious flaw... that there is nothing to register when something goes OUT of a postoffice. |
15:51.49 | |pez| | (except when people pick their stuff up) |
15:51.52 | zenzelezz | I'll repeat, try doing it yourself |
15:51.55 | |pez| | but nothing from one post-office to another. |
15:52.20 | zenzelezz | they are required to deliver normal letters within a short period of time, that alone rules out such tracking |
15:52.32 | zenzelezz | then there's additional cost for the machinery and support structure |
15:52.42 | |pez| | I'm talking packages now really, they're registered when they get in to a post-office, but not when they go out from one post-office, to go to another one. |
15:53.04 | zenzelezz | then you're wrong; they get registered every step of the way |
15:53.31 | zenzelezz | (either that or you're using ambiguous terms for what you mean) |
15:53.45 | |pez| | (i suck at english, and explaining) |
15:53.54 | |pez| | (But I might also be wrong) |
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15:54.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Whee |
15:54.27 | ScytheBlade1 | 232/338 packages updated |
15:54.41 | zenzelezz | "klumpsendinger" don't get registered, but all normal packages do |
15:55.14 | |pez| | look at this image - http://posten.no/NR/rdonlyres/060CA931-EB8A-4B3C-9775-B669AA4068C7/9704/Nettspor_mer_info_03032005d.jpg |
15:55.24 | |pez| | there's only "arrived" but never "shipped off" |
15:56.11 | zenzelezz | so wait, you want them to register *twice* on each intermediate step; at arrival *and* departure? |
15:56.42 | |pez| | Yes. How else are you to know if something got lost along the way? |
15:56.45 | zenzelezz | if they're not intended for a certain office/terminal they just get put right in the queue after being registered as arrived |
15:56.52 | zenzelezz | it's simple |
15:57.12 | |pez| | but it is a flaw, since errors do happen. |
15:57.19 | zenzelezz | it's not a flaw |
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15:57.43 | zenzelezz | you need to really understand the system before you can make such accusations :-p |
15:58.14 | |pez| | in my opinion, it is a flaw. |
15:58.51 | |pez| | But ok, I don't know the system. |
15:59.05 | zenzelezz | my whole family works in the postal service :-p |
15:59.20 | |pez| | I just know I was standing and waiting for the people at the postoffice thing, to actually get a package. Because the people working there had no idea if it was there or not. |
16:00.50 | |pez| | They were unsure if it was still there, or if it had continued it's journey. |
16:02.25 | ralfWORK | anyone ever heard of this before? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunguska_blast |
16:02.37 | zenzelezz | lots of times, it's quite famous |
16:02.49 | sacarasc | if you're under 10, it's ok if you haven't ;p |
16:02.54 | ralfWORK | first time I've ever heard of it :( |
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16:03.21 | ralfWORK | I didn't go to school |
16:03.29 | ralfWORK | was raised by wolves |
16:03.31 | ralfWORK | I mean hippies |
16:03.33 | zenzelezz | I did, it didn't help |
16:04.31 | ralfWORK | apparently you knew about the tungusta blast! |
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16:04.44 | |pez| | I didn't- |
16:04.58 | ralfWORK | ok I feel a little better now :) |
16:05.01 | sacarasc | you didn't go to school or watch the X Files? |
16:05.14 | ralfWORK | I did watch some X-files |
16:05.16 | |pez| | I did go to school, but I sat in a corner and drew instead. |
16:05.21 | |pez| | x-files scared me. |
16:05.31 | ralfWORK | X-files rocked hard |
16:05.37 | Keias | I loved that show. |
16:05.46 | |Jelly| | Someone dropped a table in WSG. Wow.; |
16:05.55 | ralfWORK | mmm... skully |
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16:43.26 | Shirik | hmm |
16:43.31 | Shirik | guy from AT&T just got here |
16:43.39 | ScytheBlade1 | HIDE THE TORRENTS |
16:43.42 | ScytheBlade1 | HIIIIIIIDE THEM |
16:43.52 | Shirik | so he plugs this thing in and he's like "hm, that's not good" |
16:43.56 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
16:43.57 | break19 | heh |
16:44.01 | Shirik | that's not what you want to hear |
16:44.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Not usually |
16:44.12 | Shirik | Though I guess it means he can reproduce the problem |
16:44.23 | Shirik | which is the first step! |
16:44.26 | break19 | Shirik: "the problem" being? |
16:44.40 | Shirik | no dialtone basically |
16:44.49 | break19 | lol |
16:44.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Pfft, landlines |
16:44.54 | Shirik | when I call my house, the caller ID says "error" but I can't pick up or anything |
16:44.58 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: I just got it. |
16:45.01 | ScytheBlade1 | lol, that's hot |
16:45.35 | break19 | cell phones are an expensive extravagance. |
16:45.52 | ScytheBlade1 | The day I do that (digital phone service from a cable company) is the day I /wrists and jump off a bridge |
16:46.08 | break19 | ScytheBlade1: we love ours. |
16:46.21 | ScytheBlade1 | But, that's probably because I'm on comcast, and don't trust them as far as I can throw them |
16:46.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Which, considering that they arbitrarily thought about buying Disney some years back, should say things |
16:47.12 | Shirik | Really, I just use my cell phone |
16:47.17 | break19 | wife can call her sisters, halfway across the country, talk all she wants.. and we dont have to share the same "cell provider" to do it.. |
16:47.36 | Shirik | but my parents raised a good concern recently when my cell phone was dead that if I ever needed to call 911, etc., and I didn't have my cell phone, there would be a problem |
16:47.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, that's why I'm just going to install asterisk on my server. Problem solved. |
16:47.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, not concerning 911 |
16:48.00 | ScytheBlade1 | But cross-country communication |
16:49.12 | art3mis | shirik |
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16:49.17 | art3mis | you're on irc ;P |
16:49.43 | ScytheBlade1 | "Quick! Someone call 911 for me!" |
16:49.44 | art3mis | if you could be in a 911 situation and open yer cell push the numbers and talk, you could just say it here if the batts dead |
16:49.48 | art3mis | heh yup |
16:50.12 | Shirik | yes, in an emergency, I'm going to get out of bed, run over to my computer, type in my password, convince someone that I really have an emergency, hope that someone's actually here |
16:50.14 | Shirik | etc., etc., |
16:50.20 | Shirik | then tell them my address |
16:50.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, better pass that info over now then. Better safe than sorry. |
16:50.36 | art3mis | its not an emergency right now is it ;P |
16:50.41 | break19 | cell phones = money down the drain |
16:50.43 | art3mis | so it seems dumb |
16:51.07 | break19 | i pay half the cost of a standard cell plan from various providers in my area.. and I dont have to worry about minutes. |
16:51.12 | art3mis | but having a purely digital line is no better if thers a netoutage, or power outage |
16:51.34 | art3mis | and from the amount of times you've bitched about yours.... |
16:51.40 | break19 | art3mis: power goes out, the phone router is on a battery backup and stays up |
16:51.50 | break19 | and I've never bitched about my digital phone.. |
16:51.58 | art3mis | im talking about shirik |
16:52.02 | art3mis | pay attention ;P |
16:52.16 | Shirik | ? |
16:52.17 | art3mis | but if the outage drops yer cable connection..... |
16:52.29 | Shirik | I don't have a purely digital line |
16:52.45 | Shirik | my phone will work in a power outage unless the phone line is cut |
16:52.52 | Shirik | except right now of course |
16:52.53 | art3mis | besides anyone who doesnt charge thier phone when they're at home sucks ;P |
16:52.56 | break19 | the phone connection uses a completely separate, redundant connection.. its nearly as reliable as POTS |
16:53.32 | ScytheBlade1 | break19: to be honest, I view the difference as "just another nine" - but that difference alone means I'd rather trust the POTS |
16:53.57 | break19 | both my internet and tv have gone out on a couple of occassions, and we used the phone to call em. lol |
16:54.04 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
16:54.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay that's pretty tricky, I won't lie |
16:54.18 | Shirik | in theory |
16:54.24 | TecnoBrat-BN | meh, I don't care so much about 10 min outages |
16:54.29 | TecnoBrat-BN | what about if there is a disaster |
16:54.30 | Shirik | any telephone service is supposed to have five nines reliability |
16:54.34 | TecnoBrat-BN | and like the power is out for days |
16:54.41 | break19 | now.. once we had to reboot the whole router, however, it had to re-connect.. |
16:54.48 | Shirik | do people actually follow that? dunno |
16:54.51 | wereHamster | Shirik, perhaps we can agree on a safe-word or something you say here and everyone will know that you are in a real emergency |
16:55.30 | TecnoBrat-BN | wereHamster: I'm gonna suggest "I had sex with my sister" |
16:55.36 | ScytheBlade1 | #wowi-lounge on freenode: your real-life backup plan! |
16:55.37 | break19 | TecnoBrat-BN: the cells will be down too.. trust me.. my area had cable and power, long before my mother-in-law's cell phone starting working again, after katrina |
16:55.38 | TecnoBrat-BN | actually, that might not be that safe |
16:56.00 | TecnoBrat-BN | break19: not talking about cell phones really |
16:56.23 | TecnoBrat-BN | normal land lines vs digital / net phone |
16:56.25 | Shirik | you all fail to realize the truth |
16:56.33 | Shirik | that I killed batbot and now batrick is coming to kill me |
16:56.34 | Shirik | safe m |
16:56.35 | Shirik | me |
16:56.38 | Shirik | save |
16:56.42 | Shirik | I need to go back to sleep |
16:56.46 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
16:56.47 | Shirik | damn at&t guy woke me up |
16:56.48 | TecnoBrat-BN | Shirik: use your phoe |
16:56.50 | ScytheBlade1 | It would sure seem so |
16:56.52 | TecnoBrat-BN | phone* |
16:56.52 | break19 | there were several cell towers blown apart here.. they only had cell coverage near the county sheriff's dept, for like 3 weeks. |
16:56.54 | TecnoBrat-BN | call the cops |
16:56.56 | TecnoBrat-BN | :P |
16:57.21 | ScytheBlade1 | lol. What the crap. |
16:57.49 | break19 | and then, it was only verizon's tower that was working.. everyone else was roaming. |
16:57.49 | ScytheBlade1 | My system update has been failing for months because I refuse to build some x86 sound compat lib with ARTS support. Turns out it was Opera that wanted said compat lib. |
16:58.11 | Shirik | Opera needs to die |
16:58.12 | Shirik | do it again |
16:58.16 | ScytheBlade1 | I did |
16:58.21 | ScytheBlade1 | `emerge -C opera` |
16:58.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: http://wowi.pastey.net/83155 |
16:58.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Just for you |
16:59.01 | Shirik | li23-154 mpdelbuono # emerge world |
16:59.01 | Shirik | Total: 0 packages, Size of downloads: 0 kB |
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16:59.03 | Shirik | yey |
16:59.03 | wereHamster | ScytheBlade1, don't forget to wipe ~/.opera ;) |
16:59.19 | TecnoBrat-BN | emerge eh? gentoo? |
16:59.25 | ScytheBlade1 | wereHamster: good point |
16:59.29 | wereHamster | <3 gentoo |
16:59.43 | TecnoBrat-BN | I haven't used gentoo in years |
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17:00.16 | TecnoBrat-BN | I've got a vista box, ubuntu box, freebsd box, and a osx box |
17:00.25 | break19 | yum, osx |
17:00.37 | break19 | true osx? or a hackintosh? |
17:00.49 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm really debating moving to another distro. But, (1) my /home drive is encrypted, and configuring pre-encrypted drives running reiser4 sucks. Never mind the reiser4 part. (2) My 20.1" LCD requires special Xorg options just for the NV driver, which a distro isn't going to pick up, or know. |
17:01.20 | TecnoBrat-BN | its a hackintosh, running 10.5.1 with everything working perfectly |
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17:01.42 | break19 | TecnoBrat-BN: nice, whatcha got? |
17:01.47 | wereHamster | ScytheBlade1, why don't you use the nvidia blob? |
17:01.54 | ScytheBlade1 | wereHamster: I am, it's buggy |
17:02.09 | wereHamster | I've nnever had problems with it |
17:02.19 | break19 | and have you ever had an issues at all? I want to buy a new desktop system, hate to give up my OS X, and cant afford a mac pro. :) |
17:02.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Option "ModeValidation" "NoMaxPClkCheck" |
17:02.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Go look that option up in the NV driver docs |
17:02.29 | ScytheBlade1 | You'll wtf |
17:02.53 | TecnoBrat-BN | notebook, core 2 duo 2.0ghz, 2gb ram, 17" lcd, nvidia 8600m GT |
17:03.09 | Shirik | nevcairiel: Those requirements were for the application itself |
17:03.16 | Shirik | Wobin_: As cladhaire said no |
17:03.33 | Shirik | In all honesty, the login box is mostly a legacy item from when it did |
17:03.41 | Shirik | and might be removed in 0.3 |
17:03.42 | Shirik | not sure yet |
17:03.46 | TecnoBrat-BN | break19: if you are gonna do that, go look around, your biggest problems are gonna be sound and video |
17:04.08 | TecnoBrat-BN | so make sure you get a soundcard / video card that is known to work :) |
17:04.23 | wereHamster | ScytheBlade1, there's no wtf-worthy in my docs |
17:04.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Sec, let me find it |
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17:06.12 | ScytheBlade1 | http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/169.12/README/appendix-b.html |
17:06.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Search for "ModeValidation" - it's the second possible argument listed just below |
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17:06.59 | ScytheBlade1 | My monitor, when you scan the EDID, produces the correct and valid modes (resolution, pixel clock, DPI, etc) |
17:07.05 | ScytheBlade1 | But the NV driver outright discards it as invalid |
17:07.22 | wereHamster | nv or nvidea? |
17:07.27 | ScytheBlade1 | nvidia |
17:07.34 | wereHamster | did you file a bug? |
17:07.50 | ScytheBlade1 | No, I'm pretty lazy, and this is documented |
17:08.00 | wereHamster | so where's the wtf? |
17:08.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Because it's bugged :P |
17:08.23 | wereHamster | it's a bug, that's pretty common in software.. |
17:08.37 | ScytheBlade1 | "Found modes for 1680x1050" "Discarding modes for 1680x1050, no valid modes found" |
17:08.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Or something to that extent |
17:13.12 | break19 | TecnoBrat-BN: sound n vid huh? i figured my biggest prob would be EFI vs BIOS and convincing the install disc that it is, indeed a mac.. |
17:14.16 | TecnoBrat-BN | break19: there is dvds you can get so that wont be an issue |
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17:14.27 | TecnoBrat-BN | EFI, I found the easiest way is to install grub |
17:14.32 | TecnoBrat-BN | and use grub to load the EFI |
17:14.34 | break19 | kk |
17:14.54 | TecnoBrat-BN | plus then you can use grub to dual boot :P |
17:19.07 | Shirik | we use grub on our robot |
17:19.14 | Shirik | with a timeout of 1 second |
17:19.15 | Shirik | haha |
17:19.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Eww, grub |
17:19.46 | Shirik | oooh pretty |
17:20.02 | Shirik | I dunno what this means, but the at&t dude's thing just went from a really dim red to a bright green |
17:20.08 | Shirik | too bad he's still outside |
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17:20.41 | TecnoBrat-BN | sounds good! |
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17:24.52 | |pez| | i.. hate folding clothes. .. -_- |
17:26.32 | Shirik | yey |
17:26.35 | Shirik | phone mostly works |
17:27.09 | Shirik | there |
17:27.16 | Shirik | phone fully works now that the handset is plugged in all the way |
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17:28.37 | sacarasc | heh |
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17:32.42 | Shirik | .... again?! |
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17:32.58 | Shirik | "A boil water alert has been issues for Daytona Beach, FL on February 29, 2008" |
17:33.59 | break19 | Shirik: u from dtb? |
17:34.05 | Shirik | kinda |
17:34.41 | break19 | cool |
17:35.14 | break19 | <- southern Al myself. practically neighbors heh |
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17:46.31 | fromatz | lua> val=0; val=(s%50)+1; print(val); |
17:46.31 | lua_bot | fromatz: luabot:1: attempt to perform arithmetic on global 's' (a nil value) |
17:46.34 | fromatz | kk |
17:48.13 | wereHamster | lua> val=0; val=math.mod(val,50)+1; print(val) |
17:48.13 | lua_bot | wereHamster: luabot:1: attempt to call field 'mod' (a nil value) |
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17:49.38 | wereHamster | ah, math.modf() it is.. |
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18:01.40 | fromatz | lua> t={}; for i=1,6 then s= s or 0; t[s]=1; s=s+1; pp(t); |
18:01.40 | lua_bot | fromatz: luabot:1: 'do' expected near 'then' |
18:01.51 | fromatz | oops |
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18:02.03 | fromatz | lua> t={}; for i=1,6 do s= s or 0; t[s]=1; s=s+1; pp(t); |
18:02.03 | lua_bot | fromatz: luabot:1: 'end' expected near '<eof>' |
18:02.23 | fromatz | lua> t={}; for i=1,6 do s= s or 0; t[s]=1; s=s+1; end pp(t); |
18:02.23 | lua_bot | fromatz: { 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, [0] = 1 } (#1) |
18:04.25 | wereHamster | lua> t={}; for i=0,5 do t[i]=1 end pp(t) |
18:04.26 | lua_bot | wereHamster: { 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, [0] = 1 } (#1) |
18:06.38 | fromatz | what is the [0] = 1 at the end? |
18:06.53 | Saint-N | late at night the ice weasels come |
18:09.21 | Lopeppeppy | They eat your ears if you don't wear tinfoil pjs. |
18:09.46 | Maul | anyone have any method of securely post hooking a script handler of a secure frame? |
18:10.02 | Cide | :HookScript()? |
18:10.48 | Maul | will that keep the frame untainted? |
18:10.50 | Saint-N | that's only because they dot have thier own ears |
18:11.15 | Saint-N | "are you thinking what I'm thinking pinky?" "I think so brain, but if we all didn't have ears we'd look like weasels" |
18:11.56 | Saint-N | are you pondering what I'm pondering pinky? I think so Brain but where are we going to find two chickens and some rubber pants at this hour? |
18:13.12 | Saint-N | The Brain: We're going to a place where the sun never sets, the size of your wallet matters, and actors and actresses slave all day. |
18:13.13 | Saint-N | Pinky: We're going to Denny's? |
18:13.35 | Saint-N | The Brain: Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering? |
18:13.35 | Saint-N | Pinky: I think so Brain... but do I really need 2 tongues? |
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18:14.02 | Saint-N | The Brain: Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering? |
18:14.03 | Saint-N | Pinky: I think so, Brain, but then it'd be Snow White and the Seven Samurai... |
18:14.12 | Saint-N | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112123/quotes |
18:14.32 | Saint-N | such stupid goodness! |
18:18.06 | deltron | lol seven samurai |
18:18.22 | krka | pinky ftw |
18:18.30 | Bela|work | The Brain: Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering? |
18:18.30 | Bela|work | Pinky: I think so Brain, but if Jimmy cracked corn, and no one cares, why does he keep doing it? |
18:18.32 | Bela|work | my fave |
18:20.06 | deltron | that's awesome |
18:20.23 | Maul | thanks Cide, was not familiar enough with HookScript, but it seems to be exactly what I needed :) |
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18:32.32 | |pez| | wts pain. |
18:34.12 | wereHamster | how much? |
18:34.32 | zenzelezz | oh so much pain |
18:34.49 | |pez| | you can get it for free. -__- as long as you take the cause of it with you. |
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18:35.38 | ralfWORK | blizz? |
18:37.17 | Cide | |pez|: what's up? |
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18:59.27 | Lunessa | ... station? |
18:59.43 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, yes please. *purrs* |
19:05.22 | Lunessa | STATION! |
19:06.17 | zenzelezz | well that's an interesting way to do it |
19:06.32 | Lopeppeppy | Whatever amuses me lately, I go for it. |
19:07.48 | Lunessa | Hey, if I dangle something shiny on a string... |
19:09.31 | Lopeppeppy | lunessa! |
19:09.41 | Lunessa | :D |
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19:24.39 | Lunessa | Mah-nah-ma-nah! |
19:25.07 | Keias | mmm chipotle burrito |
19:27.21 | Lunessa | Mah-nah-ma-nah! |
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19:29.57 | |pez| | how.. the heck do I say gamecommunity in a sensible way in Norwegian? 0.o |
19:30.08 | Lunessa | Listening to my new Cake CD and it's a blast. |
19:30.32 | Lunessa | |pez|: I don't speak Norwegian, can't help you. |
19:30.56 | Syzgyn | Mm Cake |
19:30.58 | |pez| | I know. :\ |
19:31.05 | Syzgyn | in both the physical and listening sense |
19:32.15 | zenzelezz | spillsamfunn? Nothing sounds good |
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19:46.07 | foxlit | Hm, so apparently my Are-You-In-A-Battleground check malfunctions at times |
19:46.27 | Lunessa | Man lives; man dies. It's all vanity. |
19:46.40 | foxlit | Anyone had any luck detecting that with better reliability? |
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19:46.56 | ScytheBlade1 | foxlit: GetZoneText()? |
19:46.58 | |pez| | zenzelezz: norwegian sucks ;__; |
19:47.08 | foxlit | ScytheBlade1: That'd require localization? |
19:47.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, yes |
19:47.27 | zenzelezz | |pez|: I disagree. It's only weird when you try to mix it with English |
19:47.31 | ScytheBlade1 | You never gave specifics ;) |
19:50.00 | foxlit | Use GetBattlefieldStatus(i) == "active" at the moment |
19:50.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, I'm poking at some of the options |
19:50.28 | foxlit | But that doesn't seem to be always correct when PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD fires |
19:50.49 | zenzelezz | I don't suppose there are any frames that will only open/work in battlegrounds? |
19:51.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Could you hook AcceptBattlefieldPort() and watch the zone transfer events? |
19:52.54 | foxlit | zenzelezz: the PvP score frame only makes sense in a BG concept |
19:54.26 | zenzelezz | any way you could hack those to find out if you're in a BG? I really wouldn't know as it's been a year and a half since I was in one |
19:54.30 | foxlit | SytheBlade: that could probably work |
19:54.55 | ScytheBlade1 | I looked at all of the battlefield data events... even when you're NOT in a BG, they return values |
19:55.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Regardless of the index you pass |
19:55.08 | ScytheBlade1 | *battlefield score functions |
19:55.32 | foxlit | Kind of messy, though - note that you have accepted the port, set group type to battleground, suppress check on zone in (which'd fail), and re-run the zone check a few seconds after. |
19:55.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup, kinda messy. |
19:59.33 | Bela|work | sounds more like an event firing issue though |
19:59.43 | zenzelezz | tried GetBattlefieldInstanceRunTime()? (Just looking at the API list, no clue if it would work) |
19:59.46 | Bela|work | you are trying to get a return when the status isn't available |
19:59.55 | Bela|work | so it doesn't always return true when it should right? |
20:00.20 | foxlit | It doesn't return "active" when it should |
20:00.24 | Bela|work | right |
20:00.34 | Bela|work | but that is more a precedence issue than anything |
20:00.46 | Bela|work | the "active" state is being set after your event fires |
20:00.56 | foxlit | It's slightly annoying; you'd think that when PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD happens, you know what would you got into |
20:01.00 | Bela|work | so you need another event that can be reliable |
20:01.26 | foxlit | At the moment, I just schedule a timer 3 seconds into the future to check things again |
20:01.34 | Bela|work | does it work? |
20:01.48 | foxlit | Yes; but for those three seconds, behavior is largely undefined |
20:01.58 | Bela|work | and this is JUSt for battlegrounds? |
20:01.59 | zenzelezz | do you get a zone text (like when switching zones outdoors) when you enter a BG? |
20:02.12 | foxlit | zenzelezz: judging by wowwiki event comments, you don't. |
20:02.21 | foxlit | Bela|work: it only makes sense in a battleground contex |
20:02.22 | foxlit | t |
20:02.22 | zenzelezz | pity |
20:02.41 | foxlit | (arenas being considered as battlegrounds) |
20:02.58 | foxlit | GetBattlefieldStatus(i) doesn't really make sense elsewhere, not sure if it's correct as you zone out either |
20:03.43 | foxlit | I'm guessing it would be, since you typically zone out out of a closed BG |
20:04.05 | Bela|work | does GetBattlefieldInstanceInfo return? |
20:04.29 | Maul | how about a check to see if the battleground chat channel exists |
20:05.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh. I'm still using version 2.0.0.0 of Thunderbird. |
20:05.44 | ScytheBlade1 | That could explain a bit. |
20:05.49 | foxlit | Bela: Not sure |
20:05.56 | foxlit | Mau: I don't see how |
20:06.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, it technically always exists. |
20:06.37 | ScytheBlade1 | You could send data and test the result, but |
20:06.43 | ScytheBlade1 | That'd be spamming :) |
20:06.58 | zenzelezz | can you do the /chatlist programatically? |
20:07.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Can't list raid/party/bg channels I thought? |
20:07.23 | zenzelezz | hm, never tried |
20:07.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Pretty sure that was limited to the standard chat channels + custom chat channels |
20:07.28 | zenzelezz | you're probably right |
20:07.43 | Lunessa | No Country for Old Murlocs. A Murloc Called Wanda. Murloc On Fire. Band of Murlocs. |
20:08.13 | foxlit | I, Murloc? |
20:08.17 | zenzelezz | we played that game for 45 minutes on another channel once Lunessa, only with "sheep" instead of "murloc" |
20:08.38 | zenzelezz | One Flew Over the Murloc's Nest |
20:08.47 | Lunessa | Someone palnted the idea in my brain today. I had to get it out. |
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20:10.25 | Bela|work | foxlit: http://www.wowwiki.com/Events/Instance |
20:10.56 | foxlit | Does that confirm that I'm doomed? |
20:11.02 | Bela|work | specifically I woudl be willing to bet the PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD fires before you are fully in the battleground |
20:11.04 | Bela|work | but |
20:11.20 | Bela|work | you could probably register for WORLD_MAP_UPDATE and look for the second firing? |
20:11.23 | ralfWORK | hah! I thought htat link was going to be about world events that happen inside instances, like the headless horseman |
20:11.26 | ralfWORK | QQ |
20:12.14 | foxlit | ww doesn't generally use / in proper articles |
20:12.23 | foxlit | There's a page for those events too |
20:12.30 | ralfWORK | yea sorry I fail :( |
20:14.42 | foxlit | Hm, WORLD_MAP_UPDATE could be what I want :) |
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20:15.31 | foxlit | Then again, it might be interesting to see what it does in arenas |
20:16.03 | Tuller | muffins |
20:17.09 | Lopeppeppy | Cake |
20:17.22 | Tuller | meanwhile rick james |
20:18.57 | Cairenn | yes, but purple is the new black |
20:19.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
20:19.41 | ScytheBlade1 | And green is the new purple |
20:19.41 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.pennyarcademerch.com/pat070311.html |
20:20.11 | Lopeppeppy | I still love fuschia |
20:21.24 | |pez| | is it bad of me, to be mildly annoyed, when the boyfriend is out and about, and I haven't heard from him since he left work? ... I like to know if he's got any clue as to when he might be coming home... |
20:21.39 | Maul | using CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL_NOTICE I just made a small little addon that watches for a BG name when you leave/join a bg, seems to work...have to wait until deserter flag wears off to test more :) |
20:22.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Maul: he wants to avoid localization |
20:22.23 | Maul | ah, missed that |
20:22.34 | ScytheBlade1 | I already suggested GetZoneTest() ;) |
20:23.40 | pastamancer | |pez|: he's probably spending his paycheck on hookers and blow. don't worry, he'll call when he's done. |
20:23.57 | |pez| | pastamancer: he's at the ex-girlfriends place actually. :P |
20:24.10 | pastamancer | |pez|: hookers and blow indeed! |
20:25.00 | |pez| | ... |
20:25.40 | pastamancer | well, depends on your opinion of the ex :p |
20:25.51 | |pez| | Don't like her. |
20:25.58 | nevcairiel | then it fits |
20:26.39 | pastamancer | at least he's saving money by finding a hooker he doesn't have to pay for |
20:26.40 | zenzelezz | |pez|: you haven't learned this about guys yet? Sometimes we need peace |
20:26.48 | Bela|work | does he know you dont like her? |
20:27.10 | |pez| | zenzelezz: and peace is going to the person who calls just about everyday and has sometime to nag about? :P |
20:27.20 | |pez| | Bela|work: I think so, yes. |
20:27.25 | Bela|work | then he is a jerk |
20:27.32 | nevcairiel | maybe he is taking care of that for eternal peace |
20:27.33 | nevcairiel | :P |
20:27.39 | |pez| | they're friends and all that. |
20:27.44 | |pez| | I don't mind they hanging out. |
20:27.51 | Bela|work | you arne't friends with your ex |
20:28.00 | nevcairiel | that simply doesnt work |
20:28.09 | zenzelezz | remember, you can't spell sex without ex |
20:28.17 | Bela|work | well, not enough to go there, without your current girl, knowing she doesn't like you going there |
20:28.23 | Bela|work | so yeah |
20:28.24 | |pez| | but I kinda like to be updated on when he might return home. |
20:28.26 | Lopeppeppy | If you don't like her, he doesn't get to have private alone time with her. He's just being a dorkus. |
20:29.09 | |pez| | as said, I don't mind them hanging out together, it's more of the fact that he is notoriously bad at updating me on things. |
20:29.10 | Bela|work | dont take this the wrong way, but him calling home is the least of what you should be concerned about. the fact that he isn't calling just makes it more evident |
20:29.29 | |pez| | ex girlfriend is getting married to new person. |
20:29.40 | zenzelezz | that's never stopped people before |
20:29.47 | Bela|work | maybe modern relationships are different. I tend to be old fashioned |
20:30.04 | Bela|work | and my scruples are screaming ALERT ALERT on that one |
20:30.26 | |pez| | oh ffs, they're not doing the naughty or anything. I know this. |
20:30.31 | Bela|work | I know for a fact I would NEVER EVER cheat on my wife |
20:30.32 | zenzelezz | |pez|: I'm not saying he should be there; but if you're aching so for info, why don't you contact him instead of asking a bunch of people who give you worst-case scenarios? |
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20:30.49 | Bela|work | but I would also NEVER EVER put myself in a situation where it COULD happen, or she would think it might |
20:30.57 | |pez| | and it doesn't really matter who he's with, he's just horrible at telling me stuff. :P |
20:31.15 | Bela|work | heh, yeah |
20:31.27 | Bela|work | communication isn't a guy ting |
20:31.31 | Bela|work | thing* |
20:31.42 | |pez| | zenzelezz: I sent him a message, but I bet you a penny he forgot to turn on the sound on his cellphone after work. :P |
20:31.47 | Bela|work | we prefer grunting, followed by food, or sex |
20:31.54 | zenzelezz | fair enough |pez| |
20:31.55 | nevcairiel | or both |
20:32.10 | zenzelezz | I tend to disagree with Bela there |
20:32.22 | Lopeppeppy | grunting can be suitable communication, as long as you and your guy both speak grunt. |
20:32.23 | nevcairiel | you dont like food or sex? |
20:32.23 | zenzelezz | communication isn't bad; but with girls it tends to be one-way |
20:32.26 | ScytheBlade1 | zenzelezz: s/or/and/ ? |
20:32.29 | Bela|work | I was being more fascetious than anything |
20:32.31 | zenzelezz | that's when it gets tedious |
20:33.17 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: no, I don't like food; and I don't need to worry about sex |
20:33.28 | nevcairiel | how can someone not liek food |
20:33.29 | Bela|work | I just spent 4 days eating little to no food, getting little to no sleep, and having absolutely 0 sex. all so taht my wife could feel more comfortable. so yeah, my "quote" was a little stereotypical |
20:33.30 | nevcairiel | o.O |
20:33.36 | zenzelezz | it's dull |
20:33.42 | zenzelezz | I get bored half-way through a meal |
20:33.53 | zenzelezz | not to mention if I have to make it first |
20:34.16 | nevcairiel | i like cooking, and eating for that matter |
20:34.29 | zenzelezz | I'm not saying you shouldn't, I was just answering your question |
20:35.01 | |pez| | the boyfriend also does "you know we're going out tomorrow right?" "... when did this happen?" "last week" "you never told " "oh, sorry, thought I did" things. |
20:35.34 | zenzelezz | sounds like you need to train him better |
20:35.48 | |pez| | he thinks he tells me, but doesnæt. |
20:35.58 | |pez| | and then blames me for not knowing stuff. |
20:37.35 | Bela|work | weird, that is usually the other way around |
20:37.37 | zenzelezz | find a better one :-p |
20:37.48 | Bela|work | my wife tells me things, while I have headphones on at the computer, and people are talking in vent |
20:37.54 | Bela|work | and then wonders why I go "huh?" |
20:39.00 | wereHamster | he thinks he tells me, but doesn't and then blames me for not knowing stuff. - I know how that feels.. |
20:39.50 | |pez| | wereHamster: "but I told you!!" "...nuh" |
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20:49.55 | Lunessa | ... #wowi-lounge, lua, macros, wow things, and 101 tips to make your love life better. |
20:50.04 | nevcairiel | or worse |
20:50.22 | Lunessa | shush you... I'm angling to a MOTD quote. |
20:50.42 | |pez| | this is one of the few irc channels where he is not present, so this is where I rant. :P |
20:53.24 | |pez| | can I have one too? |
20:54.01 | batrick | wow |
20:54.17 | batrick | Shirik owned batbot on a string to number conversion |
20:54.19 | batrick | fuck. |
20:54.51 | zenzelezz | |pez|: just be careful who you listen to |
20:55.25 | |pez| | zenzelezz: ohyeah? |
20:56.15 | Lunessa | |pez|: He speaks sooth. |
20:57.36 | zenzelezz | some of us profess to offer advice about things we know nothing about |
20:58.36 | |pez| | I'm just annoyed and periody... |
20:59.23 | Lunessa | Hey, I'm Sgt. Schutlz. |
21:00.48 | Lunessa | ... am I the only one old enough to remember Hogan's Heros (And I don't mean the wrestler!) |
21:02.24 | kd3 | lmao... via fark, as usual: [PSA] If something bad happens to Matt Drudge in the next few weeks the House of Windsor would like you to know now that they didn't have anything to do with it |
21:02.57 | Lunessa | lol |
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21:04.16 | batrick | --> setfenv("1", {}) |
21:04.17 | batbot | batrick: @ ./sandbox.lua:328: no function environment for tail call at level 2 |
21:04.20 | foxlit | oh gah |
21:04.23 | batrick | --> 1, setfenv("1", {}) |
21:04.23 | batbot | batrick: > 1, function: 0x80e9a38 |
21:04.27 | Bela|work | I know Hogan's Heroes |
21:04.33 | foxlit | It's actually correct at P_E_W |
21:05.04 | batrick | --> setfenv("1", {}); print(setfenv("1", {})) |
21:05.05 | batbot | batrick: @ [string " setfenv("1", {}); print(setfenv("1", {}))"]:1: attempt to call global 'setfenv' (a nil value) |
21:05.30 | batrick | Shirik: I was expecting something more awesome tbh but nice find :P |
21:05.43 | batrick | Expect your shiny as soon as I figure out what it will be |
21:08.11 | foxlit | Woah, what the |
21:08.25 | foxlit | It's correct through PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD, WORLD_MAP_UPDATE |
21:08.31 | foxlit | but then breaks at CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM |
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21:11.10 | batrick | --> x = pcall |
21:11.16 | batrick | --> while true do end |
21:11.21 | batbot | batrick: @ maximum execution time/memory exceeded |
21:11.33 | batrick | --> for i = 1, 3 do print(debug.getupvalue(x, i)) end |
21:11.33 | batbot | batrick: npcalls 1nmpcalls function: 0xb7b1bcc8lpcall function: 0xb7b193e0 |
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21:11.57 | break19 | batrick: patchin shirik's flaw eh? lol |
21:12.02 | batrick | --> foo = debug.getupvalue(x, 3) bar = function() foo(foo) end bar() |
21:12.02 | batbot | batrick: @ [string " foo = debug.getupvalue(x, 3) bar = functio..."]:1: attempt to call global 'foo' (a string value) |
21:12.11 | batrick | --> _,foo = debug.getupvalue(x, 3) bar = function() foo(foo) end bar() |
21:12.21 | batrick | O.o |
21:12.39 | batrick | break19: I already patched what he broke I've found something new and exciting :P |
21:12.51 | break19 | |pez|: how was breakfast? |
21:13.03 | |pez| | Oh, breakfast was good ^^ |
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21:13.04 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+v Esamynn|Work] by ChanServ |
21:13.17 | break19 | good to hear :) |
21:13.19 | batrick | --> _,foo = debug.getupvalue(x, 3) print(foo) bar = function() foo(bar) end bar() |
21:13.19 | batbot | batrick: function: 0xb7b193e0 |
21:13.24 | batrick | hrm |
21:13.27 | batrick | --> _,foo = debug.getupvalue(x, 3) print(foo) bar = function() foo(bar) end return bar() |
21:13.27 | batbot | batrick: function: 0xb7b193e0 |
21:13.58 | batrick | --> _,foo = debug.getupvalue(x, 3) print(foo) bar = function() return foo(bar) end return bar() |
21:13.58 | batbot | batrick: > true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, nil, ead shirik |
21:13.59 | batbot | batrick: function: 0xb7b193e0 |
21:14.02 | batrick | ah :( |
21:14.41 | |pez| | break19: now I'm just horribly annoyed at the boyfriends ability to not tell me when he wants to pick him up, and that he's eating elsewhere today |
21:14.42 | batrick | --> debug.setupvalue(foo, 1, -10000) |
21:14.42 | batbot | batrick: @ cannot change secure functions' upvalues |
21:14.59 | batrick | well that's confusing |
21:15.22 | break19 | |pez|: heh yea.. I can see how that'd be a bit irritating. |
21:15.22 | |pez| | Which sort of leaves me in a "I can't make food cause I have no idea when I'm going to get him, and he might want food too if he hasn't had any" situation |
21:16.05 | zenzelezz | if he's not said when he's coming home, food is his own problem |
21:16.05 | Lopeppeppy | He can eat PB&J if he's not around when dinner hits the table. |
21:16.14 | |pez| | and when I tried calling him the first time, he didn't answered. |
21:16.14 | break19 | |pez|: which is why my wife, when she's not sure when I'd be home, cooks something simple, wont burn easily, and just leaves it on the stove, with the temp turned all the way down... |
21:16.50 | zenzelezz | seriously, I don't get why girls put up with so much shit from guys |
21:16.54 | |pez| | the thing is, I can't *make* it, because I don't know when he's wanting to be picked up. |
21:16.59 | break19 | "food on the stove, clean up when your done" "yes dear, but I already ate" "fine, put it in the fridge and clean up" |
21:17.37 | zenzelezz | |pez|: you need to stop thinking like that; if you go all day without saying a word about what's going on or when you're coming home, you get second priority |
21:17.49 | wereHamster | |pez|, a microwave comes in handy in such situations :) |
21:18.04 | |pez| | wereHamster: don't have any good microwave foods. :\ |
21:18.29 | zenzelezz | Fjordland, over førrrrti retter |
21:18.41 | wereHamster | not no make food, to heat the food up that you made earlier :) |
21:18.43 | |pez| | neitakk. |
21:18.58 | |pez| | wereHamster: I don't make enough food for that. :P |
21:19.13 | |pez| | not large enough pots and pans. |
21:19.17 | |pez| | or stove, for that matter. |
21:19.47 | break19 | then feed yourself. say " didnt know when you'd be home, or if you would want dinner, so you can help yourself. you know where the stove is" |
21:20.15 | |pez| | that results in him eating nothing, or candy. |
21:20.22 | Lopeppeppy | His problem, not yours. |
21:20.24 | break19 | not your problem. :) |
21:20.32 | |pez| | it ends up as my problem. |
21:20.47 | wereHamster | later her problem, too, when he gets fat and ugly and such :) |
21:20.47 | Lopeppeppy | Then it's doubly his problem for being a dork on top of being a dork. |
21:21.02 | break19 | hmm, I'd say it's time for an ultimatum.. |
21:21.02 | |pez| | Since I'll be the one treating him when he get's a diabetic seizure. |
21:21.31 | break19 | you his girlfriend or his nurse?! |
21:21.38 | zenzelezz | |pez|: he knows he has the problem, let him take care of it himself |
21:22.00 | |pez| | zenzelezz: he'd be dead many times over if people did it like that.. |
21:22.29 | zenzelezz | I'm known to have some peculiar views on life |
21:22.39 | break19 | if he doesnt have the will, or mental capacity to look after his diabetes, then you need to have him committed.. seriously. |
21:23.00 | TecnoBrat-BN | http://garfieldminusgarfield.tumblr.com/ |
21:23.05 | |pez| | break19: it's a habit. He's always had someone look after him. |
21:23.24 | |pez| | I'm getting to the point where he's beginning to do it himself more properly. |
21:24.58 | |pez| | atleast now it can go a month or more inbetween the seizures. |
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21:25.53 | |pez| | there was a period it averaged at 3 times a week... |
21:26.25 | |pez| | I'm hopeless, he's hopeless... we'll see how things work out in the end... |
21:27.30 | break19 | |pez|: sounds to me like he wants a mommy.. not a girlfriend. |
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21:27.53 | wereHamster | don't we all? :) |
21:28.03 | |pez| | His mom annoys the living hell out of him. |
21:28.10 | |pez| | and she's pretty much the cause of all of this. |
21:28.13 | |pez| | He's a stubborn man. |
21:28.16 | |pez| | and she keeps on nagging |
21:28.27 | |pez| | which = him not really wanting to do anything about it. |
21:28.30 | |pez| | and she keeps on nagging. |
21:28.30 | break19 | |pez|: she's likely right tho.. |
21:28.51 | zenzelezz | right or wrong don't matter when you're stubborn |
21:28.53 | zenzelezz | I know all about this |
21:29.01 | |pez| | Well, waking us up at 6am or earlier every morning wasn't really neccesarry |
21:29.26 | |pez| | asking 4-5 times a day for his bloodsugar was not neccesarry |
21:29.40 | |pez| | or, not really asking, but demanding. |
21:30.11 | break19 | if she didnt, he wouldnt do it, as evidenced by your earlier statements :)P |
21:30.12 | |pez| | Yes I lived with him and his parents for a while before we moved out on our own. |
21:30.35 | |pez| | break19: if she hadn't started this. he might have. :P |
21:30.37 | zenzelezz | I can see why you'd be annoyed, but as break just said, if he had 3 seizures a week then his mom probably had reason to feel she had to do it |
21:31.05 | wereHamster | overprotective mothers aren't good either |
21:31.12 | |pez| | wereHamster: exactly |
21:31.44 | |pez| | she says stuff like "remember to eat so you don't get sick!" all the freaking time, and I think it annoys the heck out of him. |
21:31.55 | break19 | so you need to lay down the law.. tell him if he has one more seizure due to his own laziness/carelessness, you will become just like that.. |
21:31.57 | Cairenn | how old is he? |
21:32.04 | |pez| | Cairenn: old >__> |
21:32.09 | Cairenn | how old |
21:32.21 | |pez| | he's 28. |
21:32.23 | |pez| | oh, wait |
21:32.24 | zenzelezz | uh ohes, the mom woke up |
21:32.24 | |pez| | 29 |
21:32.29 | break19 | wtf@! |
21:32.40 | break19 | 29 is -old- ??? |
21:32.47 | Cairenn | then I have to agree with this: (4:22:31 PM) break19: if he doesnt have the will, or mental capacity to look after his diabetes, then you need to have him committed.. seriously. |
21:32.47 | |pez| | break19: compared to me. :) |
21:33.12 | break19 | <- 31.. 32 in aug |
21:33.30 | wereHamster | you're very old then :) |
21:33.33 | |pez| | I believe his mom is part of the problem, and her nagging just makes it worse. |
21:34.15 | zenzelezz | be careful in pushing the responsibility on her in this case |
21:34.20 | |pez| | He got better when we moved out. |
21:34.23 | break19 | indeed |
21:34.27 | |pez| | like almost automagically. |
21:34.36 | zenzelezz | in many cases I'd agree, but a problem like diabetes is NOT something you can just say "zomg someone else's fault" when he's not doing his job |
21:34.50 | Cairenn | that as may be, it isn't your responsibility to make sure his diabetes is under control |
21:35.04 | |pez| | Cairenn: what am I gonna do, let him die? |
21:35.23 | zenzelezz | force him to start taking responsibility |
21:35.32 | Cairenn | it's his responsibility, unless he has some sort of mental deficiency that prevents him from doing so |
21:35.33 | |pez| | forcing isn't going to do any good. |
21:35.42 | zenzelezz | neither is letting him get away with not doing it |
21:35.55 | break19 | |pez|: no, but you can quit being his enabler.. if he has seizures, check him into a hospital, and move out. |
21:36.05 | |pez| | He's not getting away with it. I'm slowly but surely making things better. |
21:36.10 | Cairenn | |pez|: that's good |
21:36.47 | Cairenn | but seriously, don't take all the responsibility for it on yourself - if he can't be bothered to take care of it himself, call the ambulance when he has a seizure |
21:37.11 | |pez| | Cairenn: and then watch him slowly fade away? I think not. |
21:37.23 | |pez| | I might not like how he treats himself, but I love the man ffs. |
21:37.47 | break19 | |pez|: let me explain where i come from here.. in 1998, i had a bad work injury.. broke my pelvis in 2 places, and my L2 vert.. if i do stuff im not supposed to do, like heavy lifting etc.. know what my wife does? |
21:37.49 | Cairenn | because otherwise he's putting you in the exact same position - making you the one responsible for maintaining his blood sugar levels, turning you into a nag |
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21:38.08 | Lopeppeppy | He's setting you up, |pez| |
21:38.12 | break19 | absolutely nothing.. except "i dont feel sorry for you" |
21:38.23 | wereHamster | break19, ah, so that's where your nick comes from? :) |
21:38.27 | Cairenn | we aren't coming down on you |
21:38.28 | break19 | nope |
21:38.34 | zenzelezz | I'll just stop voicing my views on this since I'd soon go too far, but I think you're being too kind to him |
21:38.43 | break19 | breaker 1 9.. anybody got their ears on? |
21:38.54 | Cairenn | break19: heh, that's what I'd guessed |
21:38.54 | break19 | <- trucker for 5 years.. |
21:38.58 | Lopeppeppy | "We got a great big convoy, rocking through the night..." |
21:39.10 | |pez| | zenzelezz: even I think I'm being nice to him. |
21:39.13 | break19 | Lopeppeppy: heh |
21:39.23 | Nechckn_BetaNow | Lopeppeppy I was just thinking of that song too! |
21:39.24 | |pez| | But he's slowly doing stuff himself, without me even asking. |
21:39.49 | Nechckn_BetaNow | ... and I'm about to put the hammer down. |
21:39.57 | break19 | heh |
21:40.05 | |pez| | it's progress, and it's all I can ask for at the moment. It's not like things like these change over night. |
21:40.46 | Lunessa | Breaker 1 9, um pig pen, you want to back off about a hundred miles or so? Them hogs is starting to hurt my sinuses. |
21:40.48 | break19 | none of the trucks ive ever driven would go faster than 74mph on level ground.. electronic speed control. many companies set theirs even lower.. |
21:41.15 | wereHamster | how many kmh is that? |
21:41.22 | zenzelezz | I disagree. During this progress, if you feel this responsible, you should simply demand to know when he's coming home and things like that or let him handle his problem on his own |
21:41.27 | break19 | US Foods is 62 i believe.. Swift is 65, schneider is 65. same with jb hunt, and werner.. |
21:42.08 | |pez| | zenzelezz: that I can agree on, I'd like to have a estimate atleast. |
21:42.12 | break19 | wereHamster: not sure.. but 60mph is 100kph.. but remeber too, the speed limit here on the interstates can be as high as 75mph in some states |
21:42.22 | Elkano | wereHamster, I think about *1.6 |
21:42.35 | Nechckn_BetaNow | I had an Uncle who drove for some odd 35+ years for Garvey/NorthAmerican ha, that movie and song were like required. =) |
21:42.40 | zenzelezz | |pez|: but if you think it over, what I just said still boils down to my original opinion... by now (today) it's his own problem |
21:42.43 | break19 | Elkano: yea. 1.54 iirc now that you said somethin |
21:43.34 | break19 | in my home state the max is 70.. and most people do 75-80.. |
21:44.09 | wereHamster | break19, 75 for trucks or all cars? |
21:44.14 | break19 | all cars |
21:44.32 | |pez| | I'm going to go pickup the boyfriend now. -__- |
21:44.35 | |pez| | see you guys later. |
21:44.48 | break19 | only a handful of states have split speed limits.. and thiers pros/cons on both sides of -that- fence |
21:44.58 | break19 | s/thiers/theres |
21:45.05 | Tuller | speed limit 50 when its ticket season |
21:45.09 | Tuller | 60 otherwise |
21:45.16 | kd3 | lol |
21:45.19 | break19 | heh |
21:45.25 | Tuller | with a * by ticket season stating: "We can determine it being ticket season at any time" |
21:45.33 | wereHamster | what's the ticket season? |
21:45.56 | kd3 | the time of the month when highway patrol is running out of time to get their ticket quota for the month |
21:45.56 | break19 | kentucky has a limit of 65mph for cars and 55mph for any vehicle pulling a trailer. |
21:46.11 | Tuller | yes it does |
21:46.14 | wereHamster | rofl, ticket quota |
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21:48.05 | break19 | Tuller: the ticket quota is not on the books in most places, just means they can have plausible deniability.. but i have friends on the county sheriff's dept.. "no quotas really, but if we dont write enough, we get reprimanded for 'not enough time interfacing with the motoring public'" lol |
21:48.57 | break19 | one of my buddies says he only writes warnings, unless its a 'gross violation' |
21:49.08 | wereHamster | why doesn't the sheriff say: our motoring public is well educated and behaves properly on the streets |
21:49.27 | break19 | wereHamster: he'd be lying.. |
21:49.29 | kd3 | because that's a lie and everyone in the room knows it |
21:50.10 | Nechckn_BetaNow | hell, I think everyone on who has ever driven a car or been anywhere near a road knows it =) |
21:50.12 | break19 | i drove a truck for 5yrs.. the stuff I've seen... no way in hell does 85% of the drivers on the road have ANY fuckin clue about whats goin on. |
21:50.40 | Tuller | lets play, "tailgate the semi" |
21:50.43 | break19 | and i've logged about half a million miles behind the wheel... |
21:51.05 | wereHamster | I'm not surprised after I heard how easy it is to get a drivers license |
21:51.13 | break19 | Tuller: that doesnt bother me as much lets play pass the semi just to get off right in front of him |
21:51.26 | Lopeppeppy | See how well his brakes work. *le sigh* |
21:52.03 | Tuller | yeah that does happen a lot |
21:52.25 | Cairenn | I love sharing the highway with most truckers, especially late at night/early morning |
21:52.42 | Saint-N | I've heard that about you ;P |
21:52.45 | Saint-N | ~rimshot |
21:52.45 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
21:52.47 | Cairenn | Saint-N: :p |
21:52.56 | break19 | what really gets my goat tho.. how many people do you ride with, constantly checkin mirrors to see whats around them, and home many dont give a fuck aboutt anything not square in front of em.. |
21:53.09 | wereHamster | Nechckn_BetaNow, I beg to differ, where I live the drivers know very well how to behave. It has to do with education and laws |
21:53.31 | Saint-N | following truckers is the most fun |
21:53.37 | Saint-N | cuz late at night they're insane |
21:54.05 | break19 | wereHamster: yes, thats true.. last i checked it cost a german friend of mine almost $2k usd for his drivers license |
21:54.23 | Nechckn_BetaNow | wereHamster I've been to many countries and regions... usually it's scary. Not to say that there aren't more well behaved areas.. but it's the minority. |
21:55.05 | Tuller | I'd say 40% is somewhat of a valid number for bad drivers in VA |
21:55.09 | break19 | here in the states any yahoo with a 20$ bill can go in, take a 1mile long driving test and be given a regular license |
21:55.34 | break19 | Tuller: i'd bump that up.. i've been thru va :) |
21:55.36 | Saint-N | I believe you mean Yahoo(tm) |
21:55.49 | Tuller | you're probably right |
21:55.50 | wereHamster | Nechckn_BetaNow, france, spain is crazy, but you should come visit switzerlad ;) |
21:56.03 | break19 | got a friend of mine lives in va beach |
21:56.04 | Saint-N | the swiss have cars? |
21:56.22 | Tuller | volvo? |
21:56.29 | wereHamster | how else could we transport the cheese, chocolate and our gold?? |
21:56.31 | zenzelezz | Volvo is Swedish |
21:56.36 | wereHamster | watches, too |
21:56.46 | break19 | Saint-N: yea, they come with free chocolate, a wristwatch, and every tool you'd ever need folded neatly into the trunk. |
21:56.56 | Saint-N | I thought all that was there was chocolate, coo-coo clocks and jerish gold |
21:56.57 | kd3 | lmao |
21:57.07 | Saint-N | jewish |
21:57.08 | Falcon213 | lol in switzerland if you drive anything that can go past 60 mph through a town they all go crazy |
21:57.27 | Saint-N | volvo: it's boxey, but it's safe. |
21:57.28 | Falcon213 | and get angry |
21:57.28 | wereHamster | coo-coo clocks come from germany/schwarzwald, not switzerland |
21:57.41 | Saint-N | wereHamster: so did most of the jewish gold ;P |
21:57.51 | break19 | heh |
21:58.20 | break19 | i love volvos |
21:58.50 | break19 | especially their large trucks.. smoothest damn riding big rig i've ever driven.. |
21:59.04 | wereHamster | volvos are for people who want to buy a tank, but since that's forbidden they buy volvos |
21:59.19 | Saint-N | volvos are great |
21:59.22 | zenzelezz | Volvo personal cars haven't been boxy for years |
21:59.28 | Saint-N | its too abd thier repair is crazy expensive in the states |
21:59.37 | break19 | zenzelezz: indeed.. nice cars |
21:59.38 | zenzelezz | but they make tons of diggers and other such machines |
21:59.42 | Saint-N | zenzelezz: its a slogan joke from Crazy People |
21:59.58 | zenzelezz | I'm familiar with the joke, it was popular here too years ago |
22:00.00 | break19 | Saint-N: depends on where ya are i guess |
22:00.12 | Saint-N | dustin hoffman goes to the looney bin and gets the crazies inside to help him write new "truth" campaigns |
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22:01.32 | Saint-N | ya know there's just something wrong with this 50 something yo executive that owns one of the premier PR firms in new york calling me "dude" |
22:01.35 | break19 | in town, theres a volvo specialist, buys in bulk, and prices are usuaaly around the same as ford/chevy factory parts. |
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22:01.46 | Saint-N | nice |
22:03.48 | break19 | now the toyota my wife has? whole other story.. some woman dinged her rear quarter panel a while back.. |
22:04.24 | break19 | all i can say, thank god for full coverage.. it cost the ins company right at 2k |
22:04.56 | break19 | if that had been a ford or chevy pickup, it'd been maybe 300.00 :P |
22:08.49 | break19 | lol *bop* coulda had a V8. |
22:09.08 | break19 | those commercials crack me up :) |
22:09.26 | Tem|AFK | my dad loves those commercials |
22:09.32 | Tem|AFK | I think that makes you old |
22:11.15 | break19 | Tem|AFK: *sigh* we've been over this... |
22:11.39 | break19 | Tem|AFK: and fwiw, my 26yr old wife loves em more than I |
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22:13.46 | zenzelezz | http://www.catsthatlooklikehitler.com/ |
22:16.15 | Nechckn_BetaNow | wereHamster That is, in fact, one place I have yet to visit- I certainly take your word for it and all... =) |
22:16.37 | Saint-N | break19: that's unless you own a toyota ute ;P |
22:17.09 | break19 | Saint-N: thbbt. its a pickup truck. tacoma.. |
22:17.13 | Nechckn_BetaNow | zenzelezz ROFL- where do these sites come from!? Ha! |
22:17.26 | Saint-N | so you somehow got the pussy version ;P |
22:17.32 | Saint-N | 80s ute indestructible |
22:17.36 | Saint-N | new utes |
22:17.38 | Saint-N | dear god |
22:17.44 | Saint-N | dead lifting 16tons?!~? |
22:17.59 | Saint-N | 0-100 and stopping with 10tons of payload in |
22:18.06 | Saint-N | those commercials are insane ;P |
22:20.25 | Saint-N | http://youtube.com/watch?v=DDfzdZqGoRU&feature=related |
22:23.15 | Saint-N | http://youtube.com/watch?v=p64yUG3VAVE |
22:26.37 | break19 | Saint-N: dont think you understand.. they replaced her fender and painted to match... paint was 1200 bucks.. that glossy/metallic silver.. |
22:26.57 | break19 | to fix a scratch... |
22:27.27 | Saint-N | oh |
22:27.32 | break19 | but they couldnt just repaint the existing fender, as the scratch was into the metal |
22:27.37 | Saint-N | pussy version ;P |
22:27.48 | break19 | riiiight |
22:27.51 | Saint-N | its a truck |
22:27.57 | Saint-N | they're supposed to get banged up |
22:27.58 | Saint-N | ;) |
22:28.02 | Saint-N | its likea rule |
22:28.13 | break19 | its -her- truck.. she dont want it scratched :P |
22:28.58 | break19 | my isuzu on the other hand has been thru hell and high water.. last part literally.. :) |
22:29.37 | break19 | Shirik: -poke- |
22:30.07 | Shirik | rawr |
22:30.27 | Saint-N | heh |
22:30.37 | Saint-N | I miss my trooper and my grand wagoneer |
22:30.47 | Shirik | break19: -poke- |
22:30.47 | break19 | <- rodeo :) |
22:31.08 | Shirik | I saw your feature request |
22:31.12 | break19 | Shirik: i packaged up the jar for the updater.. as a mac .app |
22:31.18 | Shirik | I was trying to keep it partially secret >< |
22:31.23 | Saint-N | BIG JOE IZUZU! |
22:31.35 | Saint-N | help help my izuzu trooper is stuck in the mud |
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22:31.59 | break19 | included the copying file and the src folder on the dmg disk image.. i can email if you'd like.. |
22:31.59 | Shirik | Yeah I intend to do that in the future, break19, just not yet as I don't have a reliable way of doing it easily right now |
22:32.02 | Shirik | no way of testing it, etc. |
22:32.30 | break19 | Shirik: easily upgradeable, simply replace the jar file inside the resources folder |
22:32.42 | Shirik | That actually didn't work before |
22:32.48 | Shirik | clad|office and I tried this a while back |
22:32.59 | break19 | then you did something wrong ) |
22:33.01 | break19 | :) |
22:33.07 | Shirik | when I replace it, it gets marked as invalid for some reason |
22:33.30 | break19 | hm, weirdness |
22:34.35 | Gnarfoz | what's a good Lua environment to install on WinXP if you want to be able to test if an compiles? standard lua binaries ok for that? (basically just luac -p, I guess) |
22:35.03 | break19 | did you remember to 'touch' the app directory afterwards? sometimes needed. altho I use rolfba's ace updater, in java, and have used it as an app and its upgraded itself just fine (which simply replaces the file.) so i dunno.. |
22:35.29 | Guillotine | Gnarfoz: yup, works fine for me |
22:35.50 | kd3 | http://luabinaries.luaforge.net/download.html |
22:36.14 | break19 | Shirik: what os were you using when you replaced the file, windows is notorious for screwing with permissions.. |
22:36.52 | Saint-N | break19: shirik never forgets to "touch" things |
22:37.03 | Saint-N | sometimes he touches them too much though |
22:37.03 | break19 | lol |
22:37.48 | Lopeppeppy | ..... |
22:37.56 | Shirik | no I didn't touch it, so that could be it, but "windows is notorious for screwing with permissions" <-- only if you don't know how to use a computer |
22:38.11 | Saint-N | gasp! |
22:38.27 | Saint-N | no he di-int |
22:41.10 | Guillotine | Shirik: or you use programs made by people that don't know how to use a computer. Though then the screwing is mostly folder-specific |
22:42.36 | Shirik | I don't use programs that screw with other programs |
22:42.42 | batrick | gj shirik |
22:42.48 | Shirik | <3 batrick |
22:42.54 | Shirik | it took me FOREVER |
22:43.02 | batrick | you got me with a string to number conversion :( |
22:43.05 | Shirik | yeah |
22:43.11 | Shirik | you had a lot of bugs on that |
22:43.17 | Shirik | it was just a matter of finding the right combination of functions |
22:43.22 | Shirik | for a second I killed setfenv >< |
22:43.23 | batrick | I was expecting something a little more epic but whatever |
22:43.42 | batrick | you could have always fixed it with while true do end |
22:43.53 | Gnarfoz | well, great |
22:43.53 | Shirik | oh is that how I can reset it? |
22:43.55 | Shirik | I couldn't figure it out |
22:44.10 | Shirik | but fortunately, I had changed the environment of setfenv such that it was no longer in the secure table |
22:44.10 | Gnarfoz | lua binaries can't deal with UTF-8 Byte-Order Markers :< |
22:44.14 | Shirik | so I could fix it |
22:44.24 | Shirik | and once I did that |
22:44.30 | Shirik | it was easycake from then on |
22:44.35 | Shirik | because I realized how I can trick the functions |
22:44.48 | Shirik | batrick: I think the REAL solution, btw, is not only to fix those string-number conversions |
22:44.53 | Shirik | but also to localize type and error |
22:44.58 | Shirik | imo you shouldn't be using globals |
22:45.06 | batrick | nahhh |
22:45.14 | batrick | I gotta give u something to shoot for |
22:45.19 | Shirik | lol |
22:45.39 | Shirik | ok I gotta run off |
22:45.44 | Shirik | apparently they're trying to wire the bot tonight |
22:45.49 | Gnarfoz | are there "utf8 enabled" Lua binaries? :( |
22:45.50 | Shirik | and I'm the only one who knows the details of the circuit |
22:45.52 | Shirik | and it's huge >< |
22:46.17 | Shirik | Gnarfoz: Lua should not have an issue with UTF-8 so long as you do not supply the header |
22:46.31 | Gnarfoz | I do. :< |
22:46.41 | Shirik | so don't give it the header :) |
22:46.43 | Shirik | simple enough |
22:47.01 | zenzelezz | open your favorite hex editor and delete the first three bytes |
22:47.02 | Gnarfoz | yeah, so for syntax checking I strip it, and then append it again because WoW wants it |
22:47.05 | Gnarfoz | :< |
22:48.45 | Shirik | wow wants it? |
22:48.50 | Gnarfoz | heh, I'll probably macro my editor to disable its setting to write the BOM, save and turn it on again |
22:48.52 | Shirik | it shouldn't... |
22:49.00 | Gnarfoz | if you don't want a big mess of escape codes, yes |
22:50.26 | batrick | --> local a; co = coroutine.running() error("") |
22:50.27 | batbot | batrick: @ [string " local a; co = coroutine.running() error(""..."]:1: |
22:51.00 | batrick | --> debug.getlocal(co, 1, 1) |
22:51.00 | batbot | batrick: > a, nil |
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23:07.04 | Shirik|AFK | btw break19, if you didn't see it, http://wowinterface.com/portal_admin.php?id=294&a=viewfeature&featureid=2613 |
23:07.06 | Shirik|AFK | er, wait |
23:07.08 | Shirik|AFK | you can't use that link |
23:07.21 | break19 | lol |
23:07.22 | zenzelezz | stop showing off |
23:07.34 | Shirik|AFK | http://wowinterface.com/portal.php?id=294&a=viewfeature&featureid=2613 |
23:07.39 | Lunessa | Heh, we can't use the admin features. |
23:07.52 | Shirik|AFK | Sorry T_T It's just the link I use because it's right there |
23:08.16 | Lunessa | OK, time to go home and play WOW. |
23:08.25 | Lunessa | See you all tomorrow. |
23:08.48 | break19 | Shirik|AFK: heh ok. see what happens when you are sneaky? you get requests for stuff already in the works. :) |
23:09.14 | Shirik|AFK | that's what I was complaining about the other day when I had to do the SVN branch |
23:09.23 | Shirik|AFK | so I could get 0.2.10 out without anything from the 0.3 work |
23:09.34 | Tuller | op add showstates to bongos3, success |
23:10.32 | Tuller | though the ui is dirty |
23:10.51 | break19 | Shirik|AFK: any thoughts on streamlining the update process in the future? all that extra clickin is drivin me insane. :p |
23:11.30 | break19 | Shirik|AFK: also. do you cap the download speeds in any way? I was updating lightheaded and it took forever to download a measly 5megs.. |
23:13.44 | Shirik|AFK | break19: No download caps, though wowinterface might have one built in. I don't think so though. |
23:14.04 | Shirik|AFK | Furthermore, if you want, post a feature request allowing you to turn off all the "confirm" |
23:14.15 | Shirik|AFK | At time of writing, I figured people would want to double check it before install |
23:14.18 | Shirik|AFK | but perhaps that should be optional |
23:14.20 | break19 | Shirik|AFK: weird.. must've been a bad connection then. I can usually grab the whole 5Megs in about 15seconds or so... took almost a minute :/ |
23:14.36 | Shirik|AFK | The BACKUP on the other hand |
23:14.37 | Shirik|AFK | of lightheaded |
23:14.38 | Shirik|AFK | takes forever |
23:14.41 | foxlit | "4096-bit private/public key RSA signature" |
23:14.54 | Shirik|AFK | That's something I'm trying ot resolve -- something is not optimized correctly |
23:14.58 | Shirik|AFK | foxlit: Too big? :P |
23:15.01 | break19 | Shirik|AFK: I did post the request.. but took too long to click "post" and it timedout :/ |
23:15.01 | foxlit | Way. |
23:15.07 | Shirik|AFK | You should have seen ScytheBlade1's and my discussion earlier |
23:15.10 | TecnoBrat-BN | 4096 bit? |
23:15.12 | TecnoBrat-BN | lol |
23:15.14 | Shirik|AFK | I wanted to use a 15630 bit key |
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23:15.18 | foxlit | Well, you could get away with it in C, maybe |
23:15.22 | foxlit | But it's rather pointless |
23:15.44 | Shirik|AFK | I just want to be 100% sure |
23:15.47 | TecnoBrat-BN | I don't know much about keys |
23:15.58 | TecnoBrat-BN | but do they take significantly longer to verify when they get that large? |
23:16.12 | Shirik|AFK | heh, yes, kinda |
23:16.19 | Shirik|AFK | because it's arithmetic on numbers that huge |
23:16.24 | Shirik|AFK | which processors... aren't directly designed fr |
23:16.30 | foxlit | TecnoBrat: it's mostly limited by the speed at which you can multiply things |
23:16.37 | Shirik|AFK | HOWEVER I think Intel would be geniusness if they implemented an opcode like that |
23:16.40 | foxlit | Generally speaking, O(n^2) |
23:16.57 | Shirik|AFK | or something to help the calculation |
23:17.02 | Shirik|AFK | it would not be easy though |
23:17.28 | foxlit | cryptography export laws, btw :P |
23:17.54 | Gnarfoz | good thing AMDs are produced in Germany ;> |
23:18.17 | foxlit | But, um, is that java? |
23:18.19 | Shirik|AFK | I'm working on that one, foxlit :) |
23:18.21 | foxlit | yes it is. |
23:18.25 | Shirik|AFK | no foxlit |
23:18.31 | Shirik|AFK | the updating part is going to be done in C++ |
23:18.32 | foxlit | java -jar? |
23:18.37 | foxlit | Looks like java! |
23:18.56 | Shirik|AFK | mostly because the problem relies in that I need to replace an in-use file if I do it in Java |
23:19.06 | Shirik|AFK | foxlit: If you'll look at the windows one, you'll realize it already has some C++ :) |
23:19.08 | Shirik|AFK | or look at the source |
23:19.46 | foxlit | Point is, java has built in cryptography primitives |
23:19.49 | foxlit | At some level. |
23:19.55 | Shirik|AFK | yes they do |
23:20.00 | Shirik|AFK | and they're mostly native actually |
23:20.20 | Shirik|AFK | so that should be fast too, but I don't think I'm doing it there |
23:20.20 | Shirik|AFK | depends on my approach |
23:21.34 | batrick | no u |
23:22.14 | batrick | wow |
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23:25.33 | lordgreg | hiya all. i've made a toon, rogue yesterday. now, starting to fill talent tree... for leveling, what do you suggest? combat? |
23:25.35 | foxlit | woah, general chat |
23:25.43 | foxlit | "If you caught a ... what would you do?" |
23:25.52 | ScytheBlade1 | foxlit: lol |
23:25.52 | foxlit | like ~15 topics |
23:27.04 | lordgreg | well.. where should i go ask that question then... forward me to some other chan |
23:27.12 | break19 | foxlit: if I caught a cold, I'd smack your mom for giving it to me.. |
23:27.23 | ScytheBlade1 | lordgreg: the WoW beginners forum ususually a good place |
23:28.14 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.html?forumId=69356&sid=1 |
23:28.14 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ there |
23:28.14 | ScytheBlade1 | and/or your relevant class forum(s) |
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23:32.31 | Fin | kergoth: hello! |
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23:46.06 | Nechckn | that one is good- as is the version with Joan Rivers |
23:46.25 | kd3 | oh joy! |
23:46.28 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4976291142&sid=1 |
23:48.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Hot |
23:48.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Grats on making fire mages arena viable imo |
23:48.20 | ScytheBlade1 | ;) |
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23:48.42 | Tem|AFK | kd3, yay! |
23:48.55 | Tem|AFK | sounds like I'm really going to be first target in 5v5 |
23:49.10 | Tem|AFK | IV + Heroism = 100% no pushback really fast frostbolts |
23:49.14 | Tem|AFK | FEEL THE PAIN |
23:49.20 | ScytheBlade1 | 1sec frostbolts |
23:49.22 | ScytheBlade1 | And 1sec fireballs too |
23:49.35 | Tem|AFK | isn't it more like 1.6s frostbolts? |
23:49.48 | ScytheBlade1 | IV + Heroism = 0.96sec fireballs |
23:50.00 | Tem|AFK | lua> print(2.5/1.3/1.2) |
23:50.01 | lua_bot | Tem|AFK: 1.6025641025641 |
23:50.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
23:50.07 | ScytheBlade1 | 1.6 it is |
23:50.07 | Tem|AFK | 1.6 second frostbolts |
23:50.17 | Tem|AFK | lua> print(35/1.3/1.2) |
23:50.17 | lua_bot | Tem|AFK: 22.435897435897 |
23:50.21 | Tem|AFK | lua> print(3./1.3/1.2) |
23:50.22 | lua_bot | Tem|AFK: 1.9230769230769 |
23:50.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm, something was missed |
23:50.41 | Tem|AFK | ~fail Tem |
23:50.42 | purl | Tem: Fail. |
23:50.42 | Tem|AFK | lua> print(3.51.3/1.2) |
23:50.42 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
23:50.45 | lua_bot | Tem|AFK: luabot:1: malformed number near '3.51.3' |
23:50.47 | Tem|AFK | lua> print(3.5/1.3/1.2) |
23:50.47 | lua_bot | Tem|AFK: 2.2435897435897 |
23:51.01 | Tem|AFK | how in the /hell/ did insert get turned off? |
23:52.52 | Wobin_ | mmmm |
23:53.04 | Wobin_ | Tem|AFK: That's almost like how those ghosts in DM fire them off |
23:53.20 | Wobin_ | Ever since Dire Maul I've always wanted to be a machinegun frostbolter =P |
23:53.26 | Tem|AFK | hehe |
23:53.53 | Wobin_ | I was like: "Hey! Not fair! Why can't -I- do that?" |
23:54.03 | Fin | Cairenn: heh, nice one |
23:56.05 | Tem|AFK | Wobin_, so, where do you want your MS? |
23:56.28 | Wobin_ | As a mage? |
23:56.30 | Wobin_ | hm |
23:56.53 | Wobin_ | I would have to say, to make vauge sense it'd have to be an arcane debuff of some sort |
23:57.02 | Wobin_ | Not that many of these MS changes make sense =P |
23:57.10 | Wobin_ | (and by many I mean shaman) |
23:57.30 | Tem|AFK | I vote icelance |
23:57.36 | Wobin_ | rofl |
23:57.54 | Tem|AFK | best one, though, has got to be sheep |
23:58.04 | Wobin_ | hehe that'd be great =) |
23:58.15 | Wobin_ | if each type of sheep offered a certain debuff |
23:58.21 | Wobin_ | Like normal sheep had MS |
23:58.33 | Wobin_ | Turtle gave a speed debuff after wearing off |
23:58.42 | Wobin_ | and Pig... made you crave bacon or something |
23:59.29 | Tem|AFK | no, the joke was the sheep is a heal |