00:00.45 | Guillotine | aww, they fixed the stat stacking bug on the PTR :/ |
00:01.51 | kd3 | weird how it's still the same client build, though |
00:02.06 | wereHamster | |pez|, what do you need? |
00:02.13 | kd3 | lmao |
00:02.15 | Cidan | Guillotine: Shame |
00:02.21 | kd3 | just as I say that "shutdown in 15" |
00:02.27 | Guillotine | hehe, yup |
00:02.35 | Guillotine | Maybe their adding UnitGUID! |
00:02.38 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: you mean "shutdown now" :) |
00:02.39 | Guillotine | they're |
00:02.57 | Fisker- | nah kd3 |
00:03.00 | Fisker- | it's a serverside fix |
00:04.22 | Tuller | bah, I just logged on to bugfix stuff :P |
00:04.29 | TecnoBrat|Work | how did you accomplish this bug? |
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00:04.53 | oreth| | http://www.powercursor.com/ |
00:04.55 | Guillotine | You had to swap empty bags between your bank and inventory |
00:04.57 | Tuller | I like that I actually got to be Tuller on the PTR this time |
00:04.57 | oreth| | that just got passed around work. |
00:05.01 | oreth| | it's really... bizarre |
00:05.11 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
00:05.15 | Shirik | o hai |
00:05.21 | Shirik | anyone want to tell me what my quit message was? |
00:05.38 | TecnoBrat|Work | |<--Shirik has left irc.freenode.net (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
00:05.47 | Shirik | grr |
00:05.50 | Shirik | I need to go kill brighthouse |
00:05.51 | TecnoBrat|Work | also |
00:05.53 | TecnoBrat|Work | |<--Cide has left irc.freenode.net (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
00:05.58 | TecnoBrat|Work | at like the same second |
00:06.01 | Shirik | hm ok maybe it wasn't them |
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00:06.07 | Shirik | but this has been happening a lot latelt |
00:06.38 | TecnoBrat|Work | hmmm nm, it wasn't the exact same second, but close :P |
00:07.03 | sag_ich_nicht | hmmmmmmmmm looks like i got the path wrong |
00:07.42 | abyx | hmm, what do some of you think would be the best way to learn how to make addon frames and such... created in lua, or made in the .xml file? |
00:07.57 | [FFG]Irq | Hmmf, can't get that stuff to work. Will look at it tomorrow, thanks for the help and baibai :D |
00:08.11 | sag_ich_nicht | what does the SCT default low health alert sound use as soundfile? (it's something along the lines of sounds\\Spells\\bind2_Impact_Base.wav but that's not working anymore for whatever reasons) |
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00:08.42 | sag_ich_nicht | wait |
00:08.43 | sag_ich_nicht | nvm |
00:08.45 | sag_ich_nicht | found my error |
00:08.46 | sag_ich_nicht | doh |
00:09.01 | sag_ich_nicht | that should read Sound\\ |
00:10.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Whoo |
00:10.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Exactly 500 mana potions |
00:15.49 | Fin | you need to find an engineer mate |
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00:15.57 | Fin | assuming you mean Super Mana Potinos |
00:15.59 | Fin | n> |
00:16.05 | ScytheBlade1 | They're all in injector form |
00:16.21 | Fin | you didn't say Mana Potion Injectors :P |
00:16.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Also, epic win: http://imgs.xkcd.com/blag/ball_pit_rules_400.jpg |
00:16.31 | Fin | I claim victory! |
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00:20.12 | Fisker- | btw kd3 |
00:20.30 | Fisker- | Do you know how much scale of the sands rep you get from hyjal now? |
00:21.40 | abyx | <PROTECTED> |
00:22.02 | wereHamster | what's the difference between level and strata? |
00:22.34 | wereHamster | level=overlay, strata=high |
00:23.02 | Shirik | omg |
00:23.05 | Shirik | they extended the ball pit?! |
00:24.01 | ScytheBlade1 | They sure did |
00:24.58 | Shirik | I really have to get one |
00:25.57 | Cidan | wereHamster: Think of it as floors in a building, and then position on each floor |
00:26.09 | Fisker- | what ball pit? :o |
00:26.17 | Fisker- | oh |
00:26.18 | Cidan | wereHamster: strata is a new floor of a building, level is how high or low it is on a floor |
00:26.58 | Cidan | wereHamster: So something of a higher strata will always be on top of something of a lower strata, even if the levels are higher on the lower strata object |
00:27.06 | Cidan | Man I confuse me sometimes |
00:27.09 | Cidan | brb food. |
00:28.08 | WobWork | hm |
00:28.15 | WobWork | this autoaway is... irritating =\ |
00:29.03 | Shirik | sooo |
00:29.14 | Shirik | how hard is it to recompile the kernel with a new version? |
00:29.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Depends. |
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00:29.55 | kergoth | s/recompile the kernel with a new version/compile a new version of the kernel/ |
00:30.02 | ScytheBlade1 | That too. |
00:30.07 | Shirik | ok compile a new version of the kernel and then install it |
00:30.15 | Shirik | kinda pointless to compile it and not use it |
00:30.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Depends. |
00:30.27 | ScytheBlade1 | :) |
00:30.29 | Shirik | It's not like I'm incredibly out of date or anything |
00:30.32 | Shirik | what does it depend on? |
00:30.53 | wereHamster | Cidan, thanks |
00:31.00 | wereHamster | that's what I thought |
00:31.03 | ScytheBlade1 | What you're using it for, version A and version B, what arch you're compiling on, and what arch you're compiling to |
00:32.01 | wereHamster | Cidan, http://www.wowwiki.com/XML/Frame/frameLevel - What is the difference between frameLevel and frameStrata? That's a good question, but it isn't answered in the following text :-/ |
00:33.03 | Shirik | ssh/ftp/svn server... um |
00:33.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Wait, is this your linode? |
00:33.21 | Shirik | i686 2.6.23 to current |
00:33.22 | Shirik | yes |
00:33.24 | ScytheBlade1 | You can't |
00:33.29 | Shirik | Watch me! |
00:33.32 | ScytheBlade1 | You can only use the kernels that they provide |
00:33.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Go ahead |
00:33.39 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm watching |
00:33.39 | Shirik | That's contrary to what they said |
00:33.45 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
00:33.53 | ScytheBlade1 | .......... |
00:33.56 | Shirik | They told me specifically how to compile and install my own distribution |
00:34.02 | ScytheBlade1 | ........................ |
00:34.09 | Lopeppeppy | No one tells me anything. |
00:34.22 | ScytheBlade1 | distro != kernel |
00:34.32 | Shirik | yes |
00:34.35 | Shirik | but that implies kernel |
00:34.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Wrong |
00:34.39 | Shirik | I could roll my own distribution if I wanted to |
00:34.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes |
00:34.49 | ScytheBlade1 | But that's irrelevant to your kernel |
00:35.04 | Shirik | I'm obviously missing something here |
00:35.06 | Shirik | explain the difference |
00:35.14 | ScytheBlade1 | user space vs. kernel space |
00:35.25 | ScytheBlade1 | That's.. pretty much it actually. |
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00:36.36 | ScytheBlade1 | The kernel runs the hardware - and the distro runs on top of the kernel |
00:36.40 | Shirik | shh |
00:36.44 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
00:36.46 | Shirik | I just figured it out actually |
00:36.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Very well |
00:36.49 | Shirik | as commented in my PM |
00:36.49 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
00:37.06 | Shirik | I have no way of getting to the computer to install it is the #1 issue |
00:37.18 | Shirik | even Lish can't be running |
00:37.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Your #1 issue is really that linode doesn't even give you the option |
00:37.31 | Shirik | well yeah |
00:37.44 | Thrae|Work | wereHamster: FrameStrata is considered before FrameLevel. Even at a high FrameLevel, something of lower strata will never appear above something of higher strata. In other words, FrameLevel is the lowest level of determining frame drawing levels. |
00:37.45 | Shirik | which leads to the above |
00:37.57 | ScytheBlade1 | If you login and click your profile, you'll notice that you can select your kernel |
00:38.01 | Shirik | If I could stick a CD in it, I could do it |
00:38.05 | Shirik | imo |
00:38.37 | Shirik | oh wow |
00:38.40 | Shirik | can I upgrade that easily? |
00:38.43 | Shirik | When they allow a new one? |
00:38.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes, you can upgrade that easily |
00:38.56 | ScytheBlade1 | What are you looking for? |
00:39.11 | Shirik | 2.6.25 |
00:39.14 | Shirik | I'll just wait a little loner |
00:39.16 | Shirik | longer |
00:39.24 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
00:39.27 | Shirik | no big deal since I'm the only one with ssh |
00:39.31 | Shirik | yes I know 2.6.25 isn't stable! |
00:39.31 | ScytheBlade1 | .25 doesn't exist yet. |
00:39.32 | Shirik | Get over it |
00:39.34 | wereHamster | Thrae|Work, :SetFrameLevel() takes integers, and in the xml file you can defile frameLevel= in strings, is the relation between the strings and the integers known? |
00:39.40 | Shirik | I like to live on the edge |
00:39.54 | Shirik | never knowing when the next instruction could be a kernel panic |
00:40.54 | Thrae|Work | wereHamster: In strings like "HIGH" or "1"? |
00:41.00 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: It's the only way to fly |
00:41.10 | Shirik | :) |
00:41.12 | wereHamster | Shirik, living on the edge? if you install .25-rc3 be prepared for WARNING: at net/ipv4/tcp_input.c:1767 tcp_enter_frto+0x269/0x270() and such messages in dmesg... |
00:41.19 | Shirik | hells yeah |
00:41.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: I'm running .24.3... but now you've got me curious |
00:41.36 | ScytheBlade1 | What's in .25 that you need? |
00:41.55 | Shirik | biggest reason is that the vmsplice exploit claims to work up to .24, though I haven't seen it work myself |
00:41.58 | End | lol, hortus is like "we don't support linux, kthx", and then tigerclaw is like "we have some opengl fixes in, let us know if this helps linux" |
00:42.01 | Shirik | I'm fairly convinced I'm just doing something wrong |
00:42.02 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
00:42.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Select "latest 2.6" and reboot |
00:42.13 | Shirik | latest 2.6 is .23 |
00:42.26 | wereHamster | Thrae|Work, <Layer level="OVERLAY"> |
00:42.28 | ScytheBlade1 | .12-linode41 |
00:42.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3108 |
00:42.53 | End | it's fixed in 41 |
00:42.59 | End | which is latest |
00:43.07 | Shirik | so that's why I can't get it to work |
00:43.08 | Shirik | lol |
00:43.10 | End | which is probably mentioned in the link ScytheBlade1 did |
00:43.13 | Shirik | ok <3 ScytheBlade1 |
00:43.16 | Thrae|Work | End: They won't support it if you need help with it, but it just so happens the fixes to OpenGL they need to do for Macs can also help running under WINE in Linux. |
00:43.28 | End | Thrae|Work: yeah, I know...it just seemed funny to me :P |
00:43.28 | ScytheBlade1 | End: yup, that's the post I linked |
00:43.29 | Shirik | anyway yeah I'm set to latest 2.6 |
00:43.34 | Shirik | do they automatically upgrade it for me without asking? |
00:43.44 | Shirik | I wonder if that's a good idea or not |
00:43.46 | ScytheBlade1 | You can't upgrade without rebooting |
00:43.52 | Shirik | well yeah |
00:44.00 | Shirik | that's why I was getting to if they reboot my server without asking |
00:44.08 | ScytheBlade1 | If you're set to "latest 2.6" - you'll get their latest 2.6 stable whenever you reboot |
00:44.12 | Shirik | ah ok |
00:44.16 | ScytheBlade1 | No, they won't - unmanaged service |
00:44.23 | ScytheBlade1 | The only time that'll happen is if the host goes down |
00:44.24 | wereHamster | ScytheBlade1, what about kexec? |
00:44.31 | ScytheBlade1 | wereHamster: not on Linode :) |
00:44.34 | ScytheBlade1 | (At least, I don't think so) |
00:44.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Actually yeah, definitely not on linode, lol |
00:44.58 | Corrodias | sigh, back to raiding |
00:46.05 | End | linode is uml |
00:46.37 | End | (unless you do their xen beta test) |
00:47.13 | ScytheBlade1 | And even then, you can't currently run your own kernel |
00:47.20 | End | that's true |
00:47.28 | ScytheBlade1 | But soon! |
00:47.29 | End | but at least you can load your own kernel modules |
00:47.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
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00:50.59 | Shirik | soon? |
00:51.13 | Lopeppeppy | Soon (tm). |
00:51.17 | batrick | there should be !& and !| symbols in C |
00:51.22 | batrick | what do you think Shirik ? |
00:51.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Once they have Xen stable, they'll look at custom kernels |
00:52.22 | Shirik | nor and nand? |
00:52.29 | batrick | yup |
00:52.31 | Shirik | Programmers don't understand digital circuit design |
00:52.35 | Shirik | they'll be like "wtf nand, that's stupid" |
00:52.40 | WobWork | It's true |
00:52.47 | Shirik | They don't understand you can make everything out of nand gates |
00:52.48 | WobWork | I had a horrific time with digital systems |
00:52.57 | WobWork | It's why I switched from Comp eng to Comp sci |
00:53.00 | batrick | or nor gates =D |
00:53.04 | Shirik | or nor gates |
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00:53.56 | WobWork | oh conceptually I can admire the fact that you can make everything out of nand gates |
00:53.56 | batrick | you know what's interesting |
00:54.02 | batrick | c functions in Lua don't have real upvalues |
00:54.03 | WobWork | but -I- don't want to have to do it =) |
00:54.05 | batrick | c closures* |
00:57.20 | batrick | should the topic include the new toc version? |
00:58.28 | Shirik | WobWork: But nand gates are so easy to make! |
00:58.31 | WobWork | we have a new toc version? |
00:58.36 | Shirik | One transistor per input |
00:58.37 | batrick | for 2.4? |
00:58.38 | Shirik | it's beauty in action |
00:58.44 | WobWork | Shirik: I still -think- like an engineer |
00:58.48 | Shirik | I can make a 500 input nand gate with 500 transistors |
00:58.55 | Shirik | --> 500 * 0.7 |
00:58.56 | batbot | Shirik: > 350 |
00:58.57 | WobWork | I just use it to apply to programming =P |
00:59.00 | Shirik | I just need a 350V source |
00:59.02 | Shirik | minimum |
00:59.04 | Shirik | preferably 355 |
00:59.24 | Shirik | or some kind of voltage regulator circuit |
00:59.50 | batrick | huh? |
00:59.50 | WobWork | batrick: well... 2.4 isn't released yet =) |
00:59.58 | batrick | nand gates have 2 transistors per input? |
01:00.04 | Shirik | one? |
01:00.08 | batrick | two... |
01:00.12 | Shirik | uh |
01:00.44 | Shirik | VCC - 22kohm resistor - C - E - C - E - GND |
01:00.50 | Shirik | each base is one input? |
01:00.58 | Shirik | output is between the 22kohm resistor and first collector |
01:01.30 | Shirik | I think... |
01:01.41 | Shirik | I mean I don't have this circuit memorized, I just put it together in my head whenever I need it |
01:02.08 | batrick | it depends on the transistor you're using |
01:02.16 | Shirik | NPN |
01:02.21 | batrick | nand gates require a p channel and n channel transistor |
01:02.23 | Shirik | it's the only ones I can use without hurting my head |
01:02.53 | Shirik | google agrees with me :D http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electronic/trangate.html#c3 |
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01:03.20 | WobWork | yay autoaway off |
01:03.24 | Shirik | hai Wobin_ |
01:03.27 | Shirik | and WobWork |
01:03.41 | batrick | that's fucking dumb |
01:03.46 | Shirik | ?? |
01:03.48 | Shirik | Why?! |
01:03.53 | Shirik | It's how I do it :< |
01:03.57 | batrick | I'd draw you a picture but i'm lazy |
01:04.06 | Shirik | Though I use a much higher resistance pullup resistor |
01:04.13 | Shirik | mostly because I want low current |
01:05.02 | Shirik | hehehe batrick, I did, however, make a not gate the other day out of transistors |
01:05.19 | batrick | Vhi -- p channel -- | -- n channel -- GROUND |
01:05.25 | Shirik | ended up hooking up two transistors in darlington configuration.... and forgetting some resistors from collector to emitter |
01:05.27 | Shirik | that wasn't fun |
01:05.36 | Shirik | wtf is that? |
01:05.40 | batrick | pchannel takes an input, and so does n channel |
01:05.43 | batrick | and the | is out |
01:05.49 | Shirik | that's.... an interesting way of doing it |
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01:06.04 | batrick | that's a NAND with MOSFET p and n channel transistors |
01:06.12 | batrick | for one input... lawlz |
01:06.20 | Shirik | so a not gate :P |
01:06.23 | batrick | well |
01:06.32 | batrick | sec |
01:06.40 | batrick | no one interrupt my ascii art pls |
01:06.47 | Shirik | lawlz |
01:07.00 | Shirik | --> while true do end |
01:07.04 | batbot | Shirik: @ maximum execution time/memory exceeded |
01:07.06 | batrick | Vhi -- p channel -- | -- n channel -- n channel -- GROUND |
01:07.12 | batrick | Vhi -- p channel -- | |
01:07.16 | batrick | there you go |
01:07.17 | Shirik | damn, almost had it... |
01:07.18 | batrick | nand gate |
01:07.34 | Shirik | why not use mine though :( |
01:07.37 | Shirik | it's only 2 transistors! |
01:07.44 | batrick | because mine uses the real stuff :) |
01:07.50 | Shirik | "real stuff" ? |
01:07.54 | Shirik | I like BJTs |
01:07.54 | batrick | it's what they build microprocesors with :P |
01:08.10 | Shirik | screw them |
01:08.16 | Shirik | I'm going to build a microprocessor completely out of BJTs |
01:08.19 | Shirik | on a proto board |
01:08.27 | Shirik | (breadboard) |
01:08.30 | batrick | you ever see a electron microscope rendering of a processor? |
01:08.36 | batrick | you can see the p and n channel transistors |
01:08.37 | batrick | it's so cool |
01:08.45 | Cidan | nerds |
01:08.45 | Shirik | lol |
01:08.51 | Shirik | die Cidan |
01:08.57 | Shirik | transistors are fun |
01:09.03 | Shirik | they make the world go round |
01:09.30 | Corrodias | i build my transistors out of bubble gum and duct tape |
01:09.31 | Shirik | It's kinda amazing the sheer amount of different things transistors can do, for such a simple device |
01:10.37 | Cidan | I'm so not an EE/CE |
01:10.46 | Lunessa | I'm here to build transistors and chew bubble-gum. And I'm ALL OUT OF BUBBLE-GUM. |
01:10.58 | Shirik | Cidan: I should show you my current project |
01:11.03 | Shirik | the circuit diagram for it |
01:11.21 | Cidan | I'd cry |
01:11.34 | batrick | man |
01:11.42 | batrick | this is why the french never do anything amazing |
01:11.43 | batrick | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Fonctionnement_MOSFET.svg |
01:11.50 | batrick | they have the drains and sources labeled wrong |
01:11.51 | batrick | ffs |
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01:15.21 | AnduinLothar | are elixers and flasks the same specialization? |
01:16.38 | batrick | Shirik: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/79/Lateral_mosfet.svg |
01:16.43 | batrick | that's pretty good |
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01:16.57 | batrick | that would be an inverter =) |
01:17.23 | Shirik | I still don't see the point of having two transistors when you only need one :P |
01:17.26 | Shirik | BJTs = win |
01:17.39 | batrick | Shirik: ... your "BJT" is two transistors packaged as one! |
01:17.53 | Shirik | I almost convinced them to let me use all BJTs on the robot we're working on |
01:18.03 | Shirik | but in the end we decided to go buy two ICs :( |
01:18.13 | Shirik | so now we only have 2 BJTs on it |
01:18.31 | Shirik | and 2 heavy-duty relays lol |
01:18.36 | Shirik | they're actually made for aircraft |
01:18.46 | Shirik | it's all we had >< |
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01:19.54 | WobWork | I read BJT |
01:20.02 | WobWork | and think "Bacon... Jam... Tomato?" |
01:20.58 | WobWork | (which follows up with . o O ("Crazy Americans...")) |
01:21.01 | Shirik | bipolar junction transistor :P |
01:21.18 | Shirik | but bacon jam tomato sounds good |
01:21.20 | Shirik | might try that |
01:21.28 | WobWork | . o O ("Crazy Americans...") |
01:21.28 | Shirik | then I will show it to the IEEE group |
01:21.35 | Shirik | and that's what we'll eat for lunch every week |
01:21.45 | Shirik | and then we can say we're eating BJT sandwiches |
01:21.46 | Shirik | haha! |
01:21.47 | WobWork | "I built this whole circuit board... with Bacon, Jam and Tomato!" |
01:21.48 | Shirik | awesome |
01:21.53 | Lunessa | ... Damn it. Now I'm hungry. |
01:22.03 | Shirik | go make a BJT sandwich |
01:22.40 | Lopeppeppy | Bacon without seeds |
01:23.07 | Lunessa | I'm in the office. I have not of the ingredients! DAMN IT MAN! I'm a Code Monkey, not a chef! |
01:23.24 | Esamynn|Work | ~fail Lunessa |
01:23.25 | purl | Lunessa: Fail. |
01:23.38 | Lunessa | ~lart Esamynn|Work |
01:23.38 | purl | throws Esamynn|Work's poor little doggy off a cliff |
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01:24.10 | Esamynn|Work | Lunessa: that's it, this means war! |
01:24.12 | Keias | I had the most delicious hamburgers for dinner |
01:24.16 | Esamynn|Work | ~bzfrag Lunessa |
01:24.17 | purl | ACTION blindsides Lunessa with an invisible bullet |
01:24.21 | Esamynn|Work | ~whaleslap Lunessa |
01:24.22 | purl | ACTION beats Lunessa upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
01:24.22 | Keias | And my room now smells of onions |
01:24.24 | Shirik | because |
01:24.24 | Shirik | you know |
01:24.28 | Esamynn|Work | ~whalenuke Lunessa |
01:24.28 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Lunessa with his mind powers. |
01:24.29 | Shirik | bullets are usually visible |
01:24.33 | Esamynn|Work | ~cheeseslap Lunessa |
01:24.33 | purl | ACTION slaps Lunessa around with a piece of texas goat cheese |
01:24.36 | Shirik | very important to buy invisible bullets |
01:24.37 | Esamynn|Work | ~fishslap Lunessa |
01:24.38 | purl | ACTION slaps Lunessa up side the head with a wet fish. |
01:24.39 | batrick | http://blog.wired.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/10/02/takahashikaitotoilet.jpg |
01:24.42 | batrick | hahahhahahhahahha |
01:24.43 | batrick | omfg lol |
01:24.43 | Esamynn|Work | ~lart Lunessa |
01:24.43 | purl | stabs Lunessa |
01:25.00 | Esamynn|Work | THROW MY DOG OF A CLIFF HUH!!!!! |
01:25.07 | Esamynn|Work | s/OF/OFF/ |
01:25.07 | Shirik | wtf is that batrick |
01:25.10 | batrick | well |
01:25.16 | batrick | someone took a picture of some transistors |
01:25.22 | batrick | and photoshopped a toilet on it |
01:25.41 | batrick | where's the drain? here it is! |
01:25.50 | Esamynn|Work | ~gag Lunessa |
01:25.50 | purl | ACTION takes away the voice of Lunessa and, as an additional precaution, sews Lunessa's mouth shut permanently... |
01:26.05 | Cidan | fucking hell |
01:26.11 | batrick | Shirik: http://materials.usask.ca/images/photos/SEM-6LevelCuChipP98.GIF |
01:26.13 | Cidan | FreeBSD now supports ZFS |
01:26.16 | batrick | that's almost the level of detail I wanted |
01:27.02 | Esamynn|Work | ~calm Cidan |
01:27.03 | purl | ACTION sooths Cidan, offers a backrub, tea, a jacuzzi and anything else that might help calm Cidan down. |
01:27.15 | Cidan | D: |
01:27.20 | Cidan | I'M CALM!!! |
01:27.27 | Esamynn|Work | ~gag Cidan |
01:27.28 | purl | ACTION takes away the voice of Cidan and, as an additional precaution, sews Cidan's mouth shut permanently... |
01:27.39 | break19 | lolnix < Darwin |
01:28.22 | Cidan | break19: haha oh wow? |
01:29.09 | break19 | much <3 to the bsdness of darwin |
01:29.46 | Cidan | never got into BSD, so eh |
01:29.53 | Cidan | NOT THAT IT'S BAD |
01:29.58 | Cidan | OR THAT LINUX IS BETTER |
01:30.00 | Cidan | etc |
01:30.02 | Lopeppeppy | Hmm, so much abusing of Lunessa and Cidan, and I wasn't watching. |
01:30.03 | Cidan | Just, never got into it |
01:30.14 | Cidan | Lopeppeppy: Care to join? :D |
01:30.38 | Lopeppeppy | Of course, darling, your dungeon or mine? |
01:30.53 | break19 | Cidan: uname -a : Darwin blackbox 9.2.0 Darwin Kernel Version 9.2.0: Tue Feb 5 16:15:19 PST 2008; root:xnu-1228.3.13~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh :) |
01:31.11 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRrPI04dzEE japan never fails to amaze me (possibly NSFW) |
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01:33.39 | Lunessa | NSFW - but pretty off-beat and funny. |
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01:42.20 | Thrae|Work | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=11443.40 <-- I truly am a masochist. |
01:48.05 | Corrodias | my needles and i would like to ask you over for a visit, thrae |
01:48.35 | Lopeppeppy | ..... |
01:49.28 | Lunessa | ... |
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01:50.44 | Corrodias | hey, tinytip is what i use. good stuff. |
01:51.19 | fromatz | if you do table.insert(a, i, 6) and then do table.insert(a, i, 4) will it overwrite the value in pos i? |
01:51.35 | pastamancer | insert is non-destructive |
01:51.47 | fromatz | ahh that would be why mine is working them |
01:51.50 | fromatz | i assumed it did |
01:51.51 | pastamancer | IIRC it'll bump up all the other indexes |
01:51.57 | pastamancer | you want a[i] = foo |
01:52.14 | fromatz | i just want a cyclic table so to speak... |
01:52.17 | Thrae|Work | fromatz: What part of "insert" was confusing you? ;) |
01:52.19 | pastamancer | a ring buffer? |
01:52.27 | fromatz | i just want a table of say size 50 |
01:52.39 | fromatz | and when the size is 51, it inserts at pos 1 |
01:52.52 | pastamancer | you'll have to write that yourself |
01:53.03 | fromatz | yeah im trying to, here is what i have, but it didnt seem to work |
01:53.09 | pastamancer | paste.net |
01:53.12 | pastamancer | err, pastey.net |
01:53.17 | pastamancer | don't paste code in here |
01:53.22 | Thrae|Work | If you're doing it for performance reasons, I can't see why |
01:53.28 | fromatz | http://wowi.pastey.net/83057 |
01:53.52 | fromatz | im tracking bg games i do |
01:54.06 | fromatz | and i only want the latest 50 games to be saved the to the saved variables file |
01:54.26 | fromatz | the only way i can think of doing it is that way |
01:54.29 | Thrae|Work | table.remove(t, 1); table.insert(t, 1, value) |
01:55.04 | pastamancer | t[i % 50] = value? |
01:55.41 | fromatz | im just calculating the index by |
01:55.44 | fromatz | i = 1 |
01:55.49 | Thrae|Work | pastamancer: i % 51, since it starts at 1 not 0, but yeah |
01:55.53 | fromatz | after it adds to the table i do i = i +1 |
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01:56.16 | fromatz | and i have a condition if (i <= 50) add else i = 1 add |
01:56.20 | pastamancer | Thrae|Work: oh, right |
01:56.49 | fromatz | but i guess in the else part, i need to remove first, then add |
01:58.03 | pastamancer | Thrae|Work: oh wait... what about i = 51... damn these tables that start at 1 |
01:58.54 | Thrae|Work | pastamancer: Well if you're using i beyond 50, then wouldn't that always return 0? |
01:59.34 | pastamancer | fromatz: instead of table.insert(t, i, v) use t[(i - 1) % 50 + 1] = v |
01:59.57 | pastamancer | Thrae|Work: modulo is remainder |
02:00.37 | pastamancer | Thrae|Work: 55 % 50 == 5 |
02:01.14 | fromatz | pasta: thats not going to add cyclic functionality though is it? |
02:01.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | dammit |
02:01.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | i forgot how slow freenode was |
02:01.48 | pastamancer | fromatz: sure, the table index will always be between 1 and 50 |
02:02.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was gonna say "da boss is gone, break out the coke and hookers" |
02:02.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it's just freenode's longass TTL on connections |
02:02.27 | fromatz | oh yeah with mod i wont need conditionals |
02:02.27 | pastamancer | fromatz: try this at home: for i = 1, 20 do print(i % 5) end |
02:02.49 | fromatz | well will need to check is i % 50 = 0 |
02:02.50 | MentalPower | anyone have any recommendations on programs to organize one's music library on disk? (find dupes, add missing metadata, organize in disk by author/album) |
02:02.55 | fromatz | if so then index needs to be 1 again |
02:03.51 | pastamancer | well, if you're going to reset your index then you can just check if i == 51 or 50 or whatever |
02:04.14 | MentalPower | yeah, much better to just check for the specific number |
02:04.42 | MentalPower | or if you want to be paranoid "if i >= 50 then" |
02:05.05 | fromatz | well my original implementation was |
02:05.31 | Thrae|Work | fromatz: function insert(t,v) t.size = 51 % ( (t.size or 0) + 1); t[t.size] = v end |
02:06.23 | fromatz | i=1; if (i <= 50) then {insert; i=i+1} else {i=1 insert i=i+1} |
02:06.57 | fromatz | but it didnt write anything to file |
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02:07.26 | fromatz | http://wowi.pastey.net/83057 |
02:07.29 | fromatz | that was what i had |
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02:08.41 | Thrae|Work | Ah, whoops. |
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02:13.02 | kd3 | new PTR build available |
02:13.04 | kd3 | ScytheBlade1, ^ |
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02:14.55 | WobWork | Can't win at all =P |
02:15.17 | WobWork | need to enable ssh at home |
02:16.12 | kd3 | huh, they changed the realm listing this build |
02:16.22 | kd3 | "Development" cat instead of US/Oceanic |
02:16.32 | WobWork | Development? |
02:16.46 | WobWork | That's an odd nomination |
02:16.51 | kd3 | this way us/eu/korea all have the same cat |
02:17.09 | WobWork | well Development sort of implies it's not quite at testing stage |
02:17.41 | MentalPower | kd3: they've been saying they will do that since a bit before 2.4 went to the PTR |
02:18.03 | MentalPower | how many realms are up tho? |
02:18.09 | kd3 | 0 |
02:18.30 | kd3 | it's supposed to happen in a later build this week according to zoot |
02:19.13 | fromatz | what was the reasoning why table.insert is non destructive |
02:20.33 | WobWork | fromatz: cause it doesn't replace keys? |
02:20.54 | MentalPower | if you want a destructive version, just insert manually |
02:20.55 | WobWork | but increments the index indefinitely? |
02:22.19 | fromatz | like |
02:22.24 | fromatz | t[1] = 4 |
02:22.29 | fromatz | t[1] = 6 |
02:22.42 | fromatz | in lua wont it be t[1]=4 t[2] = 6 |
02:22.47 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: kk |
02:22.56 | fromatz | even if you implicitly call t[1]=x both times |
02:23.45 | MentalPower | no |
02:23.56 | fromatz | so it does overwrite t[1]? |
02:24.09 | WobWork | yes |
02:24.28 | MentalPower | --> local t = {} t[1]="foo" t[2] = "bar" t[1] = "baz" print(t) |
02:24.28 | batbot | MentalPower: table: 0x811bbe0 |
02:24.33 | MentalPower | --> local t = {} t[1]="foo" t[2] = "bar" t[1] = "baz" print(t[1]) |
02:24.34 | batbot | MentalPower: baz |
02:24.38 | MentalPower | see? |
02:24.59 | fromatz | <pastamancer> IIRC it'll bump up all the other indexes |
02:25.05 | fromatz | ^^ i must have misunderstood? |
02:25.18 | MentalPower | if you use table.insert() yes it will |
02:25.26 | MentalPower | lua> local t = {} t[1]="foo" t[2] = "bar" t[1] = "baz" print(t) |
02:25.26 | lua_bot | MentalPower: table: 0x630f90 |
02:25.30 | fromatz | yeah i was using table.insert |
02:25.53 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
02:26.15 | MentalPower | --> local t = {} table.insert(t,"foo") table.insert(t,"bar") table.insert(t, "baz", 1) print(t[1], t[2], t[3]) |
02:26.16 | batbot | MentalPower: @ [string " local t = {} table.insert(t,"foo") table.i..."]:1: bad argument #2 to 'insert' (number expected, got string) |
02:26.31 | MentalPower | --> local t = {} table.insert(t,"foo") table.insert(t,"bar") table.insert(t, 1"baz") print(t[1], t[2], t[3]) |
02:26.31 | batbot | MentalPower: @ [string " local t = {} table.insert(t,"foo") table.insert(t,"bar") table..."]:1: ')' expected near '"baz"' |
02:26.35 | MentalPower | --> local t = {} table.insert(t,"foo") table.insert(t,"bar") table.insert(t, 1,"baz") print(t[1], t[2], t[3]) |
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02:26.36 | batbot | MentalPower: baz foo bar |
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02:26.41 | MentalPower | there |
02:26.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Patch.html is the same size |
02:28.02 | Thrae|Work | lua> local yourtable = {}; local function insert(t,v) t.size = 51 % ((t.size or 0) + 1) t[t.size] = v end; for i=1,60 do insert(yourtable, i) end; print( yourtable[1] ) |
02:28.03 | lua_bot | Thrae|Work: nil |
02:28.52 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: I have to wonder if we have to re-copy the characters over.. |
02:29.13 | Thrae|Work | local yourtable = {}; local function insert(t,v) t.size = ((t.size or 0) + 1) % 51 t[t.size] = v end; for i=1,60 do insert(yourtable, i) end; print( yourtable[1] ) |
02:29.27 | Thrae|Work | lua> local yourtable = {}; local function insert(t,v) t.size = ((t.size or 0) + 1) % 51 t[t.size] = v end; for i=1,60 do insert(yourtable, i) end; print( yourtable[1] ) |
02:29.28 | lua_bot | Thrae|Work: 52 |
02:29.54 | Thrae|Work | hmmm |
02:30.23 | Guillotin1 | Someone want to try opening up the MPQs and seeing if UnitGUID is in for this build? |
02:30.26 | Thrae|Work | local yourtable = {}; local function insert(t,v) t.size = ((t.size or 0) + 1) % 50 t[t.size] = v end; for i=1,60 do insert(yourtable, i) end; print( yourtable[1] ) |
02:30.31 | Thrae|Work | dammit |
02:30.32 | kd3 | doubt it |
02:30.34 | kd3 | diffs incoming |
02:30.41 | Thrae|Work | lua> local yourtable = {}; local function insert(t,v) t.size = ((t.size or 0) + 1) % 50 t[t.size] = v end; for i=1,60 do insert(yourtable, i) end; print( yourtable[1] ) |
02:30.42 | lua_bot | Thrae|Work: 51 |
02:30.55 | ScytheBlade1 | mmkay |
02:31.01 | Thrae|Work | local yourtable = {}; local function insert(t,v) t.size = ((t.size or 0) + 1) % 50 t[t.size] = v end; for i=1,60 do insert(yourtable, i) end; print( yourtable[1], yourtable[2], yourtable[3] ) |
02:31.09 | Thrae|Work | lua> local yourtable = {}; local function insert(t,v) t.size = ((t.size or 0) + 1) % 50 t[t.size] = v end; for i=1,60 do insert(yourtable, i) end; print( yourtable[1], yourtable[2], yourtable[3] ) |
02:31.10 | lua_bot | Thrae|Work: 51, 52, 53 |
02:32.04 | Thrae|Work | fromatz: As you can see from that code, after t.size goes past 50, it starts inserting at 1 again |
02:32.18 | kd3 | 42kb diff this time |
02:32.29 | Thrae|Work | fromatz: local function insert(t,v) t.size = ((t.size or 0) + 1) % 50 t[t.size] = v end |
02:32.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Could be worse |
02:33.22 | fromatz | ill take a gander at it |
02:33.26 | ScytheBlade1 | http://files.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/0.4.0.7962-7979.diff |
02:33.29 | fromatz | thanks |
02:33.30 | Guillotine | Interesting, the location IS development |
02:34.54 | ScytheBlade1 | looks like they're at least playing with the combat log movement bug |
02:35.36 | Thrae|Work | lua> local t = { } for i=1,51 do table.insert(t, 50, i) end print( t[1] ) |
02:35.37 | lua_bot | Thrae|Work: nil |
02:35.52 | Thrae|Work | local t = { } for i=1,51 do table.insert(t, 50, i) end print( t[51] ) |
02:35.56 | WobWork | hm |
02:36.02 | Thrae|Work | lua> local t = { } for i=1,51 do table.insert(t, 50, i) end print( t[1] ) |
02:36.03 | lua_bot | Thrae|Work: nil |
02:36.07 | Thrae|Work | dammit |
02:36.11 | Thrae|Work | lua> local t = { } for i=1,51 do table.insert(t, 50, i) end print( t[51] ) |
02:36.12 | lua_bot | Thrae|Work: nil |
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02:36.59 | WobWork | local t = {}; setmetatable(t, { __index = function(k,v) if k > 50 then k = k %50 end t[k] = v end }) ? |
02:37.02 | Thrae|Work | lua> local t = { } for i=1,51 do table.insert(t, 50, i) end print( t[50] ) |
02:37.02 | lua_bot | Thrae|Work: 51 |
02:37.04 | Cairenn | Kirkburn: got the response from Angie, and based on it, I'm pulling my content now. |
02:37.24 | Thrae|Work | Ah, so table.insert doesn't shift |
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02:37.40 | sysrage | do buff displays in raid frames work properly again on the PTR? |
02:37.41 | kd3 | ckknight, check your email |
02:37.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: check out this frame name from the Blizz - |
02:37.46 | ScytheBlade1 | REALMS UP |
02:37.51 | Thrae|Work | lua> local t = { } for i=1,51 do table.insert(t, 50, i) end print( t[49] ) |
02:37.51 | lua_bot | Thrae|Work: nil |
02:37.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: check out this frame name from the Blizz source: FriendsFrameFriendsScrollFrameScrollBarTop |
02:38.05 | WobWork | ScytheBlade1: and the opposite: BLACKROCK_DOWN |
02:38.26 | MentalPower | oh wow... |
02:38.27 | ScytheBlade1 | WobWork: haha |
02:38.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Epic |
02:38.36 | ScytheBlade1 | I was the third person to log into the PTR |
02:38.37 | Shirik | omg |
02:38.57 | ckknight | kd3: you're a grade-A pimp |
02:38.58 | Thrae|Work | WobWork: There's no reason to hook index for that |
02:39.13 | WobWork | Thrae|Work: well, it saves you from having to do anything =) |
02:39.39 | WobWork | any insert that the index exceeds 50 will automatically overwrite the appropriate position |
02:39.46 | WobWork | or maybe newindex |
02:39.52 | WobWork | that might be better |
02:40.04 | Thrae|Work | Right |
02:40.28 | WobWork | off the top of my head metatables is not my forte =) |
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02:42.22 | ScytheBlade1 | UnitGUID() active in this PTR build |
02:42.25 | Guillotine | YES |
02:42.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: UnitGUID() is go |
02:44.56 | Antiarc | It's live? Yay. |
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02:45.06 | pizdets | o hai |
02:45.07 | ScytheBlade1 | It's live |
02:45.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Guillotine: do you by chance have the path to the star texture? |
02:45.50 | Guillotine | No, sorry :/ |
02:46.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Not a worry |
02:47.07 | Thrae|Work | So you can do something like UnitGUID("party1target")? |
02:47.37 | ScytheBlade1 | I've only tried player and target |
02:47.39 | ScytheBlade1 | But both work |
02:48.01 | Thrae|Work | Cool |
02:48.05 | kd3 | least the combat log's been fixed |
02:48.26 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
02:48.30 | ScytheBlade1 | And they broke the config panel |
02:48.39 | kd3 | ya |
02:48.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Check the message sources tab |
02:48.48 | Thrae|Work | Ack |
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03:06.03 | Nom- | <PROTECTED> |
03:06.06 | Nom- | LOL |
03:06.08 | Nom- | That was some quality QQ |
03:07.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Holy crap wow |
03:08.13 | sysrage | what was it before? |
03:08.22 | Nom- | It was 15% for 15% i think |
03:08.23 | kd3 | 15/15 |
03:08.54 | Nom- | and on live now it's a specific value rather than a percentage i bleieve |
03:10.14 | Guillotine | hahaha |
03:10.18 | Guillotine | Water is completely messed up |
03:10.48 | Guillotine | Go to the stream in Terokkar near Allerian Stronghold |
03:11.23 | Lunessa | ... I must have missed the need for QQ then, because that Life Tap sounds ok to me. |
03:11.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: it was a MASSIVE nerf |
03:11.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Still kinda is in some respects |
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03:12.17 | Lunessa | It's still a 3:1 ratio, and it will still scale with max health... |
03:12.37 | ScytheBlade1 | They used to gain more mana per HP |
03:12.42 | ScytheBlade1 | That has been outright reversed |
03:13.55 | Lunessa | Yeah, I have Imp LT on my lock. I'm just saying... it doesn't suck as bad as I was hearing. |
03:13.58 | Corrodias | yes, on Live, it's restoring, say, 200 mana for 200 health (or 240 if you have the talent for it) |
03:14.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Fair enough |
03:14.25 | Corrodias | 15% for 5%... i don't know how this turns out |
03:14.42 | Corrodias | (with talent, should be 18% for 5%) |
03:14.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
03:14.47 | Lunessa | I was hearing "Stamina is useless for warlocks now" "QQ - all my gear is worthless!" |
03:14.54 | Guillotine | Interesting... the Combat Log clicking doesn't seem to work |
03:14.57 | Guillotine | you Can't view tooltips |
03:15.07 | Corrodias | i don't know what typical warlock maximum health/mana values are |
03:15.22 | Corrodias | for SSC-learning level |
03:15.49 | WobWork | I think the issue was that up until now, stam stacking has been the warlock methodology |
03:15.56 | WobWork | which is reflected in their set gear etc |
03:16.07 | WobWork | so for a CM to say "lol, gem for int" |
03:16.14 | Corrodias | whereas now, it's beneficial to have more mana instead |
03:16.41 | WobWork | means they have no idea how the sets were laid out |
03:16.42 | Corrodias | some CM who has never played a warlock past level 60, i take it |
03:16.57 | WobWork | It's a rather ignorant statement for anyone who plays a warlock |
03:17.10 | Corrodias | neither have i, and even i can see how a fundamental change to a class without altering the gear to support it can be upsetting |
03:17.32 | WobWork | all the sets would have to be rebalanced |
03:17.33 | Corrodias | ret paladins probably have had similar feelings at some point. i have never understood them, though. |
03:17.48 | WobWork | yes, well, who knows the minds of ret pallies =) |
03:17.56 | Lunessa | Just an FYI - A lot of the in-game GM and CM staff are the kind of people who work 8-10 hours a day for under $11/hour - Don't be too hard on 'em. :P Most of us here make more, and play more than they do. |
03:18.21 | Guillotine | Nah, I'm sure CMs make more |
03:18.45 | Guillotine | Interesting |
03:18.56 | Guillotine | Mobs near each other have IDs in a row |
03:19.04 | Lunessa | Some, maybe. My point being the job doesn't pay well, and 90% of it is dealing with angry asshats. Don't be too hard on 'em. |
03:19.05 | Guillotine | at least right after server spawn |
03:19.27 | Corrodias | i can be hard on people saying stupid things, even if they don't make much. i can pity them, and excuse rudeness or laziness. |
03:19.59 | WobWork | Oh no doubt |
03:20.17 | WobWork | but if they don't have the experience, they shouldn't be making statements like that |
03:20.31 | WobWork | as it demonstrates a lack of understanding of the issue |
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03:20.48 | WobWork | and coming from a CM, it's better for them not to say anything at all than to say something silly |
03:21.01 | Lunessa | Meh. Whatever. A little civility and pointing out they're in error probably goes a lot further to making your case than asshattery. |
03:21.03 | Corrodias | and a willingness to run one's mouth about that thing |
03:21.09 | Corrodias | *issue |
03:21.28 | WobWork | Lunessa: But that's the point |
03:21.34 | Corrodias | well, i'm sure somebody has reasonably pointed out what's wrong with it |
03:21.45 | WobWork | As a CM they're expected to be authorities on what they speak of |
03:21.49 | Corrodias | i don't have experience with high-level warlocks, so i can't truly speak on the issue |
03:21.53 | WobWork | otherwise they'd have no respect or control over the forums |
03:22.19 | Corrodias | ... that sounds familiar! |
03:22.42 | Corrodias | you say "they'd" as if this were a hypothetical situation |
03:24.14 | WobWork | Well Lunessa is saying we should cut them a break for stating silly statements because they're not paid that much/play that much |
03:24.28 | WobWork | And I say, for their job description, that is no excuse whatsoever |
03:24.30 | Lunessa | No, I'm saying do be an ass hat. |
03:24.38 | WobWork | don't? |
03:24.43 | WobWork | O.O |
03:24.46 | Lunessa | Yeah, don't. |
03:24.52 | WobWork | Where am I an asshat>? |
03:25.06 | Lunessa | Arthritus acting up.. my typing is deteriotating. |
03:25.08 | Corrodias | there's little reason to be a jerk to them, no, but don't coddle the foolish for skipping out on their responsibilities |
03:25.18 | WobWork | Corrodias: exactly |
03:25.37 | Corrodias | i don't like being a jerk to anybody |
03:26.27 | WobWork | But really, yes. they're paid very little (which isn't really indicative of any sort of gaining respect), but they should be trained to -not- open their mouths on subjects they don't fully understand. Especially since they're placed in that position as a position of authority and information broadcasting |
03:26.42 | WobWork | And that is not asshattery |
03:26.45 | Lunessa | I just don't like people taking shots at the guys with shitty jobs. "lol gem int" not good - but I see more hate/venom spewed at CM/GM staff from people who are just angry because they're not getting their way. |
03:26.46 | Shirik | Does Vista not have hyperterminal NOR telnet?! |
03:26.48 | Shirik | how?! |
03:27.05 | Corrodias | yeah, if a ... if a class balance designer posted a dismissive comment about a raid boss encounter, i couldn't get upset. it's just some random guy's opinion. |
03:27.06 | WobWork | Lunessa: So an entirely different subject completely to the current topic? =P |
03:27.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: I think the actual reason for their removal was to keep such "utilities" out of those who would abuse them... and I wish I was joking :/ |
03:27.28 | Corrodias | that's true, the WoW forums are almost totally out of control |
03:27.43 | Lunessa | WobWork: Nah, related issue, just not the right time to pick the fight. |
03:27.45 | WobWork | Lunessa: Since I have -yet- to spew hate/venom at any CM |
03:28.22 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: Ironically I'm about to abuse them |
03:28.25 | Shirik | BUT THAT'S NOT THE POINT |
03:28.29 | Shirik | I can get them from other sources... |
03:28.30 | Lunessa | I was just trying to make the point, not start a 20 minute discourse. |
03:28.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: SO IT WORKED, HA |
03:28.41 | Corrodias | if a class balance designer came on the forum and said something stupid about class balance, then we could start to get antsy |
03:28.49 | Shirik | wait wtf |
03:28.51 | Shirik | I have putty |
03:28.53 | Shirik | what am I doing |
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03:29.06 | WobWork | Shirik: It's true |
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03:29.09 | WobWork | What-are- you doing? =) |
03:29.14 | Corrodias | if a CM (by definition, the people who are supposed to ferry feedback between developers and the community) dismiss either side, it's pretty much a failure to perform |
03:29.22 | Shirik | helping... a friend... find security flaws |
03:29.29 | Lunessa | Corrodias: You could build a fucking bonfire and roast him. |
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03:29.49 | Corrodias | i could use some roast beef about now |
03:29.57 | Lunessa | Long Pig FTL |
03:30.02 | WobWork | Nah |
03:30.04 | WobWork | Tauren =) |
03:31.03 | Corrodias | not having a default telnet client installed with vista will surely put the hardcore hackers out of business |
03:31.14 | Corrodias | microsoft wins this round! |
03:31.29 | WobWork | hehe |
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03:32.57 | pizdets | i sea what you did there |
03:37.18 | Lunessa | Haha... My fans, lol : " i swear.....on these forums....if i knew where you lived there would be hot blood elf on night elf action thankyou so much! <3!!!" |
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03:52.03 | |pez| | buu, sleep didn't happen. :\ |
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03:53.46 | Lunessa | Sleep is for the weak. |
03:54.04 | |pez| | I'm totally weak. |
03:54.09 | pizdets | sleep is for people who don't play 24/7 |
03:54.15 | |pez| | So sleep is right for me! |
03:55.32 | |pez| | I guess I'll just skip housely chores tomorrow, and sleep while the boyfriend is at work. |
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04:07.38 | Atriace | I feel so emasculated... |
04:07.51 | Atriace | I just got done baking a batch of cookies. |
04:08.11 | Atriace | They're good though. ^_^ |
04:11.14 | |pez| | I probably need sleep, since I read that as "I just got done taking a bath of cookies." ... :\ |
04:13.54 | WobWork | flametongue MS |
04:13.56 | WobWork | weird |
04:14.00 | AlexanderYoshi | Yeah |
04:14.02 | AlexanderYoshi | You're so burned |
04:14.06 | AlexanderYoshi | Healing can't help you |
04:14.58 | |pez| | You know what sucks about me being sleepless right now? If I lie down on the sofa, I'd probably fall asleep in an instant. |
04:15.19 | |pez| | But I don't like sleeping on the sofa. |
04:15.24 | |pez| | it doesn't feel like sleeping. |
04:15.33 | |pez| | more like... a faster passing of time. |
04:15.40 | |pez| | and I wake up with horrible bodyaches all over. |
04:16.27 | lagger | anyone know why this doesnt work |
04:16.36 | lagger | if eventtype == "SPELL_AURA_APPLIED" and bit.band(dstFlags,hostileunits) > 0 then --mystuff here end |
04:16.46 | lagger | hostileunits being equal to COMBATLOG_FILTER_HOSTILE_UNITS |
04:20.18 | Falcon213 | wtf.. I ditched my Mana Emerald but GetItemInfo still gives me a count of 1 |
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04:24.33 | Tem|AFK | Falcon213, GetItemInfo doesn't return how many of an item you have |
04:25.26 | Falcon213 | oh, just max stack size? |
04:25.48 | Guillotine | yes |
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04:35.23 | Shirik | Tem|AFK / ScytheBlade1: Have you two been using the updater and had any problems during backups? |
04:35.31 | Shirik | (automatic backups before an install) |
04:35.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: I need to install 1.5 before I can run it :) |
04:35.42 | ScytheBlade1 | java, that is |
04:35.47 | Shirik | nublet |
04:35.52 | Shirik | does it correctly detect that? |
04:36.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, I'm on linux |
04:36.05 | Shirik | ah |
04:36.07 | ScytheBlade1 | And it just outright crashes |
04:36.14 | Shirik | yeah it's the .exe that does the detection |
04:36.19 | Shirik | no wait, there should be some code in the Java file too |
04:36.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Sec and I'll paste |
04:37.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: wowiupdater/Main (Unsupported major.minor version 49.0) |
04:37.26 | Shirik | oh |
04:37.29 | Shirik | ok then |
04:37.39 | Shirik | that I didn't code, but seems to have gotten packaged with it anyway |
04:37.50 | Shirik | String version = System.getProperty("java.version"); |
04:37.51 | Shirik | version = version.substring(0, 3); // Only major.minor, nothing further |
04:37.51 | Shirik | float vernum = Float.parseFloat(version); |
04:37.51 | Shirik | if (vernum < MIN_JAVA_VERSION) |
04:37.52 | Shirik | that I did |
04:37.58 | Shirik | Maybe I can remove that then ^^ |
04:39.05 | batrick | Shirik: shouldn't you include some static java jvm with your program so you don't have to worry about that? |
04:39.16 | Shirik | that would be a bit huge |
04:39.25 | MentalPower | majorly huge |
04:39.28 | Shirik | however I told the windows MSI where to find it |
04:39.30 | Shirik | and auto-isntall |
04:39.42 | batrick | i dunno how big is the java jvm? |
04:39.44 | Shirik | like |
04:39.50 | MentalPower | 30MBish |
04:39.50 | Shirik | 50MB at least, surely |
04:39.56 | MentalPower | or that |
04:39.59 | Shirik | ~lart Wobin_ |
04:39.59 | purl | judo chops Wobin_ |
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04:40.01 | MentalPower | its HUGE |
04:40.05 | Shirik | ~lart WobWork |
04:40.05 | purl | whacks WobWork upside the head |
04:40.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: yeah, I just ran it with `java -jar` so |
04:40.47 | batrick | o well |
04:40.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Not sure how much of that you can work around |
04:42.00 | Shirik | I don't think I can |
04:42.06 | ScytheBlade1 | I wouldn't know |
04:42.07 | Shirik | And I can't compile it for 1.4, sorry |
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04:42.13 | ScytheBlade1 | lol no worries |
04:43.37 | Shirik | I can compile it for JDK 6 though |
04:44.27 | Shirik | but yeah, I use generics, annotations, and enums, none of which are supported by 1.4 :( |
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04:49.25 | batrick | wow that's dumb |
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04:49.49 | batrick | so apparently rbash doesn't prevent user programs from doing things like changing directories |
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05:02.09 | Iriel | batrick: Isn't it expecting to be executed with a restricted path and possibly in a chroot'ed environment? |
05:02.57 | Cairenn | ~seen thunder_child |
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05:03.12 | Shirik | Hi Iriel, got a quick question for you. Do you think this design is sane? I have a function that performs a test and then returns a result. I abstracted this result into a "Result" object, which is an abstract class. |
05:03.27 | Shirik | TrueResult, FalseResult, and ErrorResult extend that Result class |
05:03.38 | Shirik | Neither Result nor TrueResult have any methods or attributes though |
05:03.43 | Iriel | Why not just an Enum/ |
05:03.44 | Iriel | ? |
05:03.52 | Shirik | because false/error have more information that they need to convey |
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05:03.58 | Shirik | in the case of false, it needs a ton of information |
05:04.16 | Iriel | Ah |
05:04.39 | Shirik | they each need to store different information, but they all need to be able to be returned |
05:04.52 | Shirik | so I was going to do something like return a Result, and then use "instanceof" to figure out which one it was? |
05:04.57 | Shirik | I've never used that operator before >.> |
05:05.21 | Iriel | that's a reasonable design, considering your needs then. |
05:05.34 | Iriel | you may consider an isError and isTrue method in your interface |
05:05.42 | Iriel | It leaves your options more open in the future |
05:05.56 | Iriel | But that's possibly trying to design too much in up front before you need it, which can be dangerous |
05:07.29 | Shirik | I'm actually trying to think ahead and think of any other possible results and I can't think of any, but there's no real way to be 100% sure, considering the model checker is also replacable |
05:07.56 | Shirik | It's basically a tool that evaluates a logical expression as true or false (runs through a FSM and sees if the formula matches) |
05:08.15 | Iriel | Then I think your result SHOULD have an isTrue method |
05:08.17 | Shirik | In the event of false, though, I need to go and figure out the sequence of states that makes it false |
05:08.23 | batrick | Iriel: I suppose so |
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05:08.31 | Iriel | Also, have you considered if an exception would be more appropriate than an ErrorResult? |
05:09.04 | Shirik | Considered that as well, but considering how much that result is going to be tossed around we thought it might be easier to have it be an actual object |
05:09.09 | Shirik | though an exception does somewhat make sense |
05:09.50 | Shirik | I mean, in theory, I could store the exception |
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05:10.44 | kd3 | the minimap broken for anyone else on the PTR? |
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05:12.27 | Iriel | Shirik: How 'common' are errors?Are they indeed exceptions or are they common result variants? |
05:12.59 | Shirik | As common as users suck at typing in formulas |
05:13.34 | Shirik | so while they're not supposed to happen, they're supposed to be handlable and capable of giving the user relevant feedback |
05:14.26 | Iriel | I think an exception may make more sense |
05:14.42 | Shirik | you may be right |
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05:18.50 | Shirik | yesssss |
05:18.55 | Shirik | I can finally reliably reproduce http://www.wowinterface.com/portal_admin.php?id=294&a=viewbugreport&bugid=4259 |
05:20.24 | Shirik | quick question for anyone that knows SVN: I can create a branch even though I've modified files, right? Or do I have to commit first? (Which I don't want to do) |
05:20.55 | WobWork | create the branch |
05:20.59 | WobWork | switch to it |
05:21.00 | WobWork | then commit |
05:21.05 | Shirik | perfect, thanks |
05:21.42 | Shirik | <3 SVN |
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05:23.19 | Shirik | sigh |
05:23.22 | Shirik | I knew it couldn't be that easy |
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05:24.57 | WobWork | yeah =) |
05:25.02 | WobWork | I 'tolerate' svn nowadays |
05:25.04 | Shirik | Error: Working copy 'C:\Users\mpdelbuono\Documents\Code\wowiupdater\Setup' locked |
05:25.04 | Shirik | Error: Please execute the "Cleanup" command. |
05:25.05 | Shirik | :< |
05:25.13 | Shirik | I know why too, I just need to fix it -_- |
05:28.06 | Shirik | people need to write IDEs that do not completely erase folders |
05:28.12 | Shirik | resulting in the loss of the .svn folder |
05:28.17 | Shirik | *cough* Visual Studio *cough* |
05:28.42 | Slackwise | lol |
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05:34.43 | Shirik | sigh |
05:34.45 | Shirik | finally cleaned up |
05:34.46 | Shirik | ok |
05:37.31 | batrick | zzz |
05:37.55 | Shirik | zzz? |
05:37.58 | Shirik | night batrick? |
05:38.31 | batrick | mmm |
05:38.37 | batrick | after some of comedy central |
05:38.40 | Shirik | oh my, commit is taking forever :< |
05:38.46 | Shirik | k night :) |
05:38.58 | Shirik | WHO PUT THIS PCH FILE IN MY WORKING COPY?! |
05:39.01 | Shirik | That was not me. |
05:39.41 | MentalPower | just half? :P |
05:39.56 | Shirik | hopefully it didn't include everything... |
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05:47.10 | AnduinLothar | mmm what's the bot command to look up arena points |
05:47.18 | WobWork | ap? |
05:47.30 | AnduinLothar | !ap 1629 |
05:47.37 | AnduinLothar | mmm |
05:47.47 | AnduinLothar | that the wrong prefix? |
05:48.05 | WobWork | Is the bot active? |
05:48.12 | MentalPower | negative |
05:48.28 | MentalPower | ~seen Thrae |
05:48.30 | purl | thrae <i=generalm@pool-71-166-57-140.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 16h 18m 22s ago, saying: 'Elkano: I need to find out if it's my client or Wowace svn. Probably my client.'. |
05:48.54 | WobWork | ~seen Thraebot |
05:48.55 | purl | thraebot <n=ThraeBot@pool-71-166-57-140.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 10d 5h 28m 14s ago, saying: 'Shirik: Arena points from a rating of 1608 is, 2v2: 361, 3v3: 418, 5v5: 475'. |
05:48.59 | AnduinLothar | my new battlegroup is a lot easier than my old one |
05:49.06 | WobWork | oh there you go |
05:49.13 | WobWork | some fairly close results =P |
05:49.36 | AnduinLothar | yeah, i just used http://www.wowarmory.com/arena-calculator.xml |
05:49.40 | WobWork | I didn't do it! |
05:49.43 | WobWork | Purl did |
05:49.44 | purl | hmm... did is Direct Inward Dialing, or just a phone number |
05:49.47 | Shirik | rofl |
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05:53.12 | AnduinLothar | 9-3 with my ret/ms/restoShammy |
05:53.20 | AnduinLothar | it's pretty fun |
05:53.27 | AnduinLothar | much better than losing endlessly |
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06:01.51 | art3mis | hrm |
06:02.11 | art3mis | where the hell can i get my hands on an athlon64 X2 4800+ |
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06:02.14 | art3mis | socket 939 |
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06:09.03 | Duman | wow, shaman get mortal strike now? |
06:09.03 | Duman | hah |
06:09.09 | kd3 | it's bugged, though |
06:09.19 | kd3 | tooltip says x/2, gameplay says it's x*2 |
06:09.26 | AnduinLothar | wtf, that's like a pally slap int he face |
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06:09.37 | Duman | kd3: yeah |
06:09.40 | Duman | http://www.worldofraids.com/2008/ptr/24/new-flametongue.jpg |
06:09.59 | Duman | kd3: that's sort of a funny bug, actually ;-) |
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06:10.50 | Syzgyn | Duman: that makes me sad |
06:11.19 | Duman | I just wish I understood what direction the devs were trying to take |
06:11.34 | Duman | the changes they make seem so weird sometimes |
06:11.42 | Syzgyn | They wanted to make enh shaman better in arena |
06:12.37 | Syzgyn | Are the PTR's down right now? |
06:14.46 | Duman | this Infected Mushroom song is stuck in my head |
06:14.48 | Duman | probably because it's rad |
06:15.06 | kd3 | it's up for US |
06:15.12 | kd3 | supposedly it's up for euro too |
06:15.24 | Syzgyn | yay |
06:15.37 | WobWork | wait |
06:15.41 | WobWork | X*2? |
06:15.46 | WobWork | so it's improving healing? |
06:15.47 | Duman | yes it's broken right now |
06:15.47 | Duman | yes |
06:15.51 | WobWork | rofl =) |
06:15.55 | Duman | yes ;) |
06:15.55 | Syzgyn | eh? |
06:16.08 | WobWork | hehe I'd so use flametongue on Inciter =) |
06:16.11 | Duman | wow, there are hardly any patch seeders right now - sigh |
06:16.23 | Duman | that's what I got for working all day |
06:16.26 | kd3 | you're not getting connected to the blizz seeds? |
06:16.30 | WobWork | it'd make healing up after MC easier |
06:16.31 | Duman | nope |
06:16.38 | Duman | probably overloaded |
06:17.00 | WobWork | a large majority of changes are to make arena more viable for certain classes |
06:17.02 | Duman | seeing lots of RR.com seeds, hehe |
06:17.04 | WobWork | or less viable |
06:17.14 | WobWork | screw what the rest of us are doing =P |
06:17.15 | Duman | honetsly... I hate what arena has done to the game |
06:17.26 | Syzgyn | I just downloaded the patch, so I dunno whats wrong with your client |
06:17.28 | WobWork | yeah =\ |
06:17.32 | Duman | there was a HUGE thread in beta before it was introduced |
06:17.45 | Duman | about how it was going to wreck things |
06:17.50 | Duman | woo, there go my seeds |
06:18.18 | Duman | hah, it was a blizz seed finally 206.17.110.132 |
06:18.22 | Duman | Blizzard Entertainment, Inc. ATTENS-010058-005011 (NET-206-17-110-0-1) |
06:18.22 | Duman | <PROTECTED> |
06:19.17 | Duman | god damn, some people are so dense on the forums sometimes |
06:19.42 | Gngsk | only sometimes? |
06:19.43 | WobWork | Duman: this is a surprise? |
06:20.10 | Duman | heh |
06:20.15 | widgertick | O_o |
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06:23.20 | Duman | oh shit, you can link talents and abilities now? |
06:23.24 | Duman | hot damn, how did I miss that |
06:24.20 | Syzgyn | you can again now? |
06:24.32 | Syzgyn | they took it out for a little bit |
06:25.01 | art3mis | whats the xml for the eu realm status? |
06:25.07 | |Jelly| | !vs us burning legion jelly us drenden kimina |
06:26.35 | WobWork | Nobot =( |
06:32.06 | Falcon213 | hrm.. is there an API function to delete an item from inv? |
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06:32.47 | Syzgyn | ooh, I like the new chatframe option interface |
06:33.58 | Syzgyn | Falcon213: DeleteCursorItem() |
06:34.37 | Syzgyn | that with PickupContainerItem(bagID,slot) |
06:35.17 | Falcon213 | ahh kk thanks |
06:35.38 | Duman | Will that still prompt you on blue-or-better items? |
06:35.47 | Syzgyn | not sure, probably |
06:36.01 | Syzgyn | I'll try it out on PTR, one sec |
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06:38.55 | Syzgyn | It completely skips the prompt for any item |
06:39.02 | Syzgyn | wow, thats sortof dangerous |
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06:45.27 | Duman | hmm |
06:45.31 | Duman | yeah |
06:45.37 | Duman | malicious addons |
06:46.39 | Syzgyn | that makes it way too easy to delete someones entire inventory in seconds |
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06:56.13 | batrick | hey Shirik |
06:56.24 | batrick | new sandbox & serialization code for you to look at =) |
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06:57.41 | Shirik | is it named some horribly impossible to spell name? |
06:58.22 | batrick | always :) |
06:58.30 | batrick | l2tab complete |
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07:01.30 | Syzgyn | so half my internet just died... |
07:01.36 | |pez| | nice |
07:01.58 | Syzgyn | most webpages wont load, PTR wont finish loading, but IRC is fine |
07:02.22 | Syzgyn | now the PTR wont even connect |
07:02.40 | Syzgyn | I guess the other half decided to die too |
07:02.57 | |pez| | I lost an item that would make me happy and sleepy... >__> |
07:03.48 | Syzgyn | porn? |
07:03.55 | Shirik | ~sex |
07:03.56 | purl | updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; apt-get install condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; apt-get remove --purge condom; make clean; sleep, or super extractor, http://sf.net/projects/sex/ |
07:04.05 | |pez| | I don't watch porn actually. |
07:04.18 | Syzgyn | Shirik: thats epic win |
07:05.08 | Shirik | you know what else is win? |
07:05.11 | Shirik | Batbot can rap now |
07:05.13 | Shirik | --> rap() |
07:05.14 | batbot | Shirik: > Your sad rhymes are spinnin' like you're in a deadlock, You're like a synchronous sock that don't know when to block; So I pull out my keyboard and I pull out my glock, And I dismount your girl and I mount /proc. And I've got your f------ p...(tldr) |
07:05.16 | Shirik | oh booooo |
07:05.19 | Shirik | I need to fix that |
07:05.25 | |pez| | Boyfriend is away, I'm tired, but I can't seem to fall asleep. |
07:05.30 | Cairenn | lol |
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07:06.00 | Syzgyn | did you refer to your boyfriend as an item up there? |
07:06.13 | |pez| | Syzgyn: no, I didn't. |
07:06.31 | Syzgyn | just checking :) |
07:07.01 | Syzgyn | so IRC still works, internet doesnt, wow doesnt, pinging google doesnt |
07:08.11 | |pez| | damnit, I'll have to go look again. |
07:08.20 | Duman | weird |
07:08.26 | Duman | I think charter is broken, Syzgyn |
07:08.39 | art3mis | yer dns is just broken ;P |
07:08.58 | Syzgyn | sadpanda |
07:09.15 | Syzgyn | hah, now wowace will load |
07:09.19 | Syzgyn | god I hate my ISP |
07:09.38 | art3mis | try opening 72.14.207.99 |
07:09.40 | MentalPower | Syzgyn: ping 64.233.167.99 <--One of google's IPs |
07:09.43 | art3mis | in yer browser |
07:10.39 | Syzgyn | Those both work |
07:11.56 | MentalPower | then you have a DNS issue |
07:12.05 | MentalPower | try pinging your DNS servers |
07:12.18 | art3mis | [12.129.232.112] <-- us.logon |
07:12.55 | art3mis | if ya just wanna replace yer realmlist ;P |
07:13.01 | Syzgyn | haha |
07:13.13 | Shirik | Stupid, stupid bugs |
07:13.16 | Shirik | one fricking word |
07:13.17 | Shirik | ONE WORD |
07:13.24 | Syzgyn | yeah, both my DNS servers are trashed |
07:13.33 | Syzgyn | grats charter |
07:13.40 | MentalPower | well, some DNS servers don't respond to pings |
07:13.53 | Shirik | for (int j = 0; j < accounts.length; j++) was supposed to be for (int j = 0; j < servers.length; j++) T_T |
07:13.59 | Shirik | ~roulette |
07:14.00 | purl | ACTION watches shirik pull the trigger: Click! |
07:14.02 | Shirik | grrr |
07:14.03 | Syzgyn | I'll have to remember to try once it fixes itself again |
07:14.13 | Shirik | ~roulette |
07:14.14 | purl | ACTION watches shirik pull the trigger: Click! |
07:14.16 | Shirik | :< |
07:14.20 | Shirik | I guess I'm not destined to die |
07:14.26 | Syzgyn | ~roulette |
07:14.26 | purl | ACTION watches syzgyn pull the trigger: Click! |
07:14.37 | Shirik | ~roulette |
07:14.37 | purl | ACTION watches shirik pull the trigger: Click! |
07:14.40 | Shirik | .......... |
07:14.45 | Syzgyn | you cant win |
07:14.47 | Syzgyn | er, lose |
07:14.50 | Syzgyn | ~roulette |
07:14.51 | purl | ACTION watches syzgyn pull the trigger: Click! |
07:15.49 | art3mis | ~roulette |
07:15.49 | purl | ACTION watches art3mis pull the trigger: Click! |
07:16.04 | Shirik | ~roulette |
07:16.04 | purl | ACTION watches shirik pull the trigger: Click! |
07:16.07 | Shirik | wtf |
07:16.32 | Syzgyn | what're the odds resetting my router would fix it? |
07:16.33 | Shirik | ~roulette |
07:16.33 | purl | ACTION watches shirik pull the trigger: Click! |
07:16.35 | Shirik | .... |
07:16.38 | art3mis | wow |
07:17.03 | Syzgyn | ~roulette |
07:17.03 | purl | ACTION watches syzgyn pull the trigger: Click! |
07:17.09 | Shirik | ~literal roulette |
07:17.10 | purl | "roulette" is "<action> watches $who pull the trigger: ( Click! | Click! | Click! | Click! | Click! | BANG!)" |
07:17.11 | Shirik | wtf? |
07:17.30 | |pez| | Waha! |
07:17.31 | |pez| | I win |
07:17.34 | |pez| | I found my item |
07:17.37 | Syzgyn | congrats! |
07:17.46 | art3mis | and btw |
07:17.56 | Syzgyn | ~roulette |
07:17.57 | purl | ACTION watches syzgyn pull the trigger: Click! |
07:17.59 | art3mis | anyone that says they dont watch porn is either lying or doesnt have internet |
07:18.04 | art3mis | and since you're on irc... |
07:18.04 | Syzgyn | haha |
07:18.15 | art3mis | ~routlette |
07:18.23 | art3mis | ~roulette |
07:18.24 | purl | ACTION watches art3mis pull the trigger: Click! |
07:18.25 | |pez| | I was having a conversation before I went to look |
07:18.42 | |pez| | and really, I don't watch porn. |
07:18.45 | |pez| | done so... once? |
07:18.46 | Guillotine | Wow, this is the greatest MS suggestion for grammar ever |
07:19.02 | art3mis | http://youtube.com/watch?v=Uq-FoLeKaPI |
07:19.07 | art3mis | i love this video for some reason |
07:19.21 | Guillotine | "It would be quite impossible, in this world, for a Doe to rise from the dead and then allow a girl to put her entire hand inside of the gunshot wound." MS tells me to change 'rise' to 'raise'. When I do, it says that 'raise' should be 'rise'. And it gives reasons for each. |
07:19.37 | Guillotine | P.S. yes, I know that is a wierd sentance, but it happened in this short story :( |
07:19.44 | Guillotine | weird sentence* |
07:19.45 | Syzgyn | well played Clippy, well played.... |
07:20.17 | Syzgyn | rise sounds right to me btw |
07:20.29 | Guillotine | I agree |
07:20.35 | Guillotine | that was my first one |
07:21.41 | Syzgyn | ~roulette |
07:21.42 | purl | ACTION watches syzgyn pull the trigger: Click! |
07:21.51 | Shirik | Guillotine |
07:21.55 | Guillotine | Shirik |
07:22.04 | Shirik | without even thinking about the grammar for a sec |
07:22.07 | Shirik | wtf are you writing |
07:22.17 | Shirik | oh, you explained it, nm :P |
07:22.18 | Guillotine | Thats why I added the P.S. |
07:22.24 | Guillotine | It is a VERY strange story |
07:22.30 | Guillotine | some 9 year old girl shoots a doe |
07:22.35 | Guillotine | and it rises from the dead |
07:22.46 | Guillotine | and she sticks her hand into the gunshot wound and takes its heart out |
07:22.46 | Shirik | it should be rise |
07:23.09 | Shirik | I see why it's conflicting though |
07:23.15 | Guillotine | yah, that's what I stuck with (and did originally) |
07:23.24 | Shirik | the "to rise" is confusing it |
07:23.35 | art3mis | http://youtube.com/watch?v=lib_lDjAos0&feature=related |
07:23.37 | kd3 | whee... /crash |
07:23.43 | Shirik | and then when you change it to "to raise" it looks back and sees the subject and goes "Oh yeah, that's suposed to be rise" |
07:23.46 | art3mis | ~roulette |
07:23.46 | purl | ACTION watches art3mis pull the trigger: Click! |
07:23.54 | Shirik | bye batrick |
07:23.56 | Shirik | batbot* |
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07:24.10 | batrick | wha? |
07:24.14 | Shirik | hi |
07:24.17 | Shirik | I thought you went to sleep |
07:24.27 | batrick | ya sorta |
07:24.34 | Shirik | do you always code while sleeping? |
07:24.38 | Shirik | it's not healthy |
07:26.01 | art3mis | http://youtube.com/watch?v=p5yg5ID25Uw&feature=related |
07:26.02 | AnduinLothar | bad for the code too |
07:26.07 | art3mis | im on a charlotte church kick btw |
07:27.12 | batrick | --> a = 1 |
07:27.46 | batrick | --> i = 2 |
07:27.50 | |pez| | art3mis: I want her clothes ;P |
07:28.01 | batrick | --> print("") |
07:28.01 | batbot | batrick: |
07:28.10 | |pez| | uh, from the first video btw *click last one* |
07:28.34 | batrick | --> a |
07:28.34 | batbot | batrick: > 1 |
07:28.38 | batrick | oops |
07:28.44 | batrick | --> while true do end |
07:28.47 | art3mis | laugh |
07:28.49 | batbot | batrick: @ maximum execution time/memory exceeded |
07:28.52 | batrick | --> a |
07:28.52 | batbot | batrick: > 1 |
07:28.55 | art3mis | yeah the last one she was i think 13 |
07:29.04 | art3mis | the first one was from a couple years ago |
07:29.12 | |pez| | she does not look 13 on the last one. :p |
07:29.20 | art3mis | just watched a craig ferguson movie with ehr in it |
07:29.33 | art3mis | and sat spellbound every time she sang |
07:29.49 | art3mis | http://youtube.com/watch?v=QexZcht9JvE&feature=related <-- shes 12 in this |
07:30.02 | art3mis | the 2nd one she was 16 or 17 |
07:31.29 | |pez| | she looks like she's lost quite a bit inbetween the second one, and first one. |
07:31.36 | batrick | batbot sets upvalues now properly =) |
07:31.40 | art3mis | yup |
07:31.51 | art3mis | the boy in the last one is amazing too |
07:31.58 | art3mis | considering he's singing that with a friggin retainer |
07:32.06 | |pez| | Defenetly |
07:32.09 | |pez| | just got to that part. |
07:32.42 | batrick | night friends |
07:32.49 | |pez| | ninight! |
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07:37.10 | Shirik | (02:35:52) (+Shirik) jeez it really does take a year to back up lightheaded |
07:37.10 | Shirik | (02:35:55) (+Shirik) I need to fix this too |
07:37.10 | Shirik | (02:36:01) (+Shirik) but not for the bugfix release |
07:37.10 | Shirik | (02:36:16) (+Shirik) oh wait |
07:37.10 | Shirik | (02:36:21) (+Shirik) I hit a breakpoint in my IDE |
07:37.11 | Shirik | (02:36:22) (+Shirik) damn it |
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07:37.35 | MentalPower | Shirik: yay for adding .pdb files to the SVN... |
07:37.37 | MentalPower | not... |
07:37.39 | Shirik | shhh |
07:37.42 | Shirik | I deleted them already! |
07:37.49 | MentalPower | I didn't |
07:37.53 | Shirik | update :P |
07:38.03 | Shirik | oh wait you don't even have access to my svn do you? |
07:38.08 | MentalPower | I need to kill them first |
07:38.13 | MentalPower | (my own SVN) |
07:38.22 | art3mis | http://youtube.com/watch?v=nwB5iRHu3dU&feature=related <-- why amy winehouse sucks |
07:38.45 | MentalPower | Shirik: any other files that would be nice to keep out of the repo? |
07:38.51 | Shirik | pch |
07:39.05 | Shirik | ldb |
07:39.19 | Shirik | basically anything that says "precompiled" or "incremental" |
07:39.25 | Shirik | the intellisense database isn't needed too |
07:39.29 | Shirik | if you're using visual studio |
07:39.37 | MentalPower | I am |
07:39.39 | Shirik | Is this your project or mine? |
07:39.43 | MentalPower | mine |
07:39.49 | Shirik | oh |
07:39.58 | Shirik | because I literally made this commit an hour ago |
07:40.04 | MentalPower | yes I know |
07:40.10 | MentalPower | hence why I'm asking you :P |
07:40.15 | Shirik | ah heh |
07:40.18 | MentalPower | .idb? |
07:40.30 | Shirik | Basically |
07:40.37 | Shirik | anything in the Debug or Release directory |
07:40.51 | Shirik | because if you do a clean build, visual studio will delete that folder |
07:41.00 | Shirik | and take away the .svn (that the other folders are expecting) from it as well |
07:41.47 | MentalPower | good point |
07:41.55 | Shirik | very good point :P |
07:42.02 | Shirik | I just spent about 20 minutes cleaning up after visual studio deleted them |
07:42.07 | Shirik | not fun |
07:42.08 | MentalPower | lol |
07:42.12 | Shirik | involves a lot of fake checkouts |
07:42.13 | Shirik | and stuff |
07:44.44 | AlexanderYoshi | do faction icons... that would be silly |
07:45.26 | MentalPower | they're already there no? |
07:45.32 | MentalPower | used in GlueXML |
07:48.37 | Shirik | uhhhhhh |
07:48.44 | Shirik | Error: Your working copy is out of date. Please svn update. |
07:48.53 | Shirik | "Completed: At revision 11" |
07:48.56 | Shirik | ... nothing done |
07:49.10 | Shirik | wtf |
07:49.13 | Shirik | and now I commit and it's fine |
07:49.15 | Shirik | whatever >< |
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07:52.01 | MentalPower | yeah, SVN will complain even if nothing changes |
07:52.07 | foxlit | "Also... the FBI wants a pony" |
07:52.20 | MentalPower | just because your revision does not match the server's revision |
07:53.59 | Shirik | I thought it was just if a file's version doesn't match |
07:54.06 | Shirik | oh well |
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08:18.43 | art3mis | im happy that sealab 2021 is back on AS |
08:18.56 | Tem|AFK | ~exception widgertick |
08:18.57 | purl | ACTION throws a NullPointerException at widgertick. |
08:18.57 | art3mis | that makes 3 whole shows to watch on this piece of crap programming block |
08:19.37 | art3mis | sealab 2021, boondocks and robot chicken (not counting the GiTS, FMA and other anime) |
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08:20.13 | Tem|AFK | I'm sick of seeing anime on AS |
08:20.24 | Tem|AFK | it mostly sucks in english |
08:20.49 | Tem|AFK | though, Death Note and GiTS are almost required to be watched in english because there's so much damn talking |
08:21.48 | art3mis | yeah |
08:22.04 | art3mis | its gone so far down hill since they let tom goes to the mayor on |
08:22.12 | art3mis | cant stand ANY of the new stuff |
08:22.52 | art3mis | kind of wish they'd just go back to the old format of sealab, harvey, venture bros, baby blues, bebop home movies |
08:23.08 | Tem|AFK | dude, ATHF is good |
08:23.22 | art3mis | thats just it though |
08:23.23 | Tem|AFK | same to Metalocalypse |
08:23.27 | art3mis | they arent playing the good shit |
08:23.38 | art3mis | have you looked at thier classic sunday line up? |
08:23.45 | Tem|AFK | I haven't |
08:23.46 | art3mis | darkspace, tim and eric |
08:23.52 | Tem|AFK | gay |
08:23.53 | art3mis | bunch of stupid bullshit |
08:23.57 | Tem|AFK | both of those are retarded |
08:24.01 | art3mis | yes |
08:24.06 | Tem|AFK | ditto saul of the mole men |
08:24.09 | art3mis | everything taht tim and eric do sucks crap |
08:24.15 | Tem|AFK | horribly |
08:24.25 | art3mis | saul at least had a hot scantily clad chick to help pass time |
08:24.33 | Gngsk | tim and eric can be ok if you're not sober |
08:24.43 | art3mis | no its not funny ever |
08:24.55 | Tem|AFK | oh, also |
08:24.56 | art3mis | tom goes to the mayor was possibly the worst show in existence |
08:24.58 | Gngsk | I've definitely genuinely laughed here and there |
08:25.05 | art3mis | and somehow that piece of crap got them MORE shows on AS |
08:25.15 | Tem|AFK | Frisky Dingo is awesome |
08:25.28 | art3mis | im not really sure why that show is amusing |
08:25.41 | Tem|AFK | Because the villain is an idiot |
08:25.44 | Tem|AFK | and so is the hero |
08:25.55 | art3mis | but yeah since tuner bought out cartoon network it's sucked soooo hard |
08:25.57 | Tem|AFK | but all the characters in between sort of know what's going on |
08:26.04 | art3mis | turner |
08:26.20 | art3mis | i mean honestly why the frig would you advertise FX on cartoon network? |
08:27.13 | MentalPower | CN is going to get Clone Wars thanks to Turner tho :) |
08:31.55 | MentalPower | gnight |
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08:39.56 | Shirik | UI Manager v0.2.10 is released for all OSes, FYI |
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09:21.22 | Shirik | lol |
09:21.27 | Shirik | just fought a resto shaman 1 on 1 in pvp |
09:21.32 | Shirik | we both eventually decided to g ive up |
09:21.43 | Shirik | in wsg* |
09:21.46 | AlexanderYoshi | nice |
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09:23.52 | Shirik | worst part is |
09:24.03 | Shirik | it was in that little room with the restoration thing |
09:24.17 | Shirik | so we kept trying to find a way to get the other to get out of the room to give us some time with it |
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10:09.40 | Shirik | See, Cide's on |
10:09.42 | Shirik | that's how late it is |
10:12.05 | Cairenn | lol |
10:12.24 | Kalroth | It's not late, it's still early! |
10:18.22 | haste | I agree with Kalroth |
10:19.13 | nevcairiel | its before noon |
10:19.16 | nevcairiel | thats early |
10:19.21 | nevcairiel | why are we not sleeping anymore? |
10:19.23 | nevcairiel | <.< |
10:19.35 | Kalroth | I'm at work |
10:19.42 | haste | I only slept three hours today |
10:19.51 | haste | 06:00 -> 09:00 :< |
10:20.00 | nevcairiel | poor haste |
10:20.18 | haste | I slept 15h the day before, so it evens out |
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10:50.06 | Tem|AFK | Hey man |
10:50.10 | Tem|AFK | be carefule with the flashy thing |
10:50.17 | Tem|AFK | you gonna give somebody cancer or something |
10:50.41 | Tem|AFK | The light I did not see did not erase my memory |
10:50.52 | Cide | haha |
10:50.56 | Cide | I love that buff |
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10:55.41 | SaiBork | hey all |
10:57.05 | SaiBork | question, i wrote my mod using the event player_quit, but when i leveled during playing it still saves the old level and not the level what i am when quitting |
10:57.36 | SaiBork | I'm using: UnitLevel("player") on the player_quit event, so shouldnt it check my level then? :S |
10:57.38 | nevcairiel | i recommend player_logout |
10:57.42 | Cide | update the level when you level up, not when you log out |
10:57.44 | Cide | imo |
10:57.50 | nevcairiel | or that |
10:57.53 | SaiBork | thats what i added too |
10:58.02 | nevcairiel | but iirc player_quit is after the SV gets saved |
10:58.05 | nevcairiel | so you cant modify it anymore |
10:58.11 | SaiBork | i now use the following events to update |
10:58.29 | SaiBork | player_quit, player_exits and player_levelup |
10:58.41 | Cide | just use the last one |
10:59.02 | nevcairiel | or player_logout if you must.. juts not quit :) |
10:59.24 | SaiBork | PLAYER_LEVEL_UP |
10:59.46 | SaiBork | PLAYER_QUITING |
10:59.52 | Cide | hi? |
10:59.55 | Cide | are you listening? |
11:00.12 | SaiBork | yeah |
11:00.16 | SaiBork | just telling |
11:00.17 | Cide | what did I say? |
11:00.32 | nevcairiel | some jibberish |
11:00.33 | nevcairiel | imho |
11:00.45 | Cide | clearly :P |
11:01.07 | Wobin_ | QUITING? |
11:01.35 | nevcairiel | PLAYER_WOBING clearly |
11:01.42 | SaiBork | hold on phone |
11:02.07 | nevcairiel | so is xsparky usable yet? |
11:02.34 | nevcairiel | -s |
11:02.50 | nevcairiel | i dont get that name, is there some logic behind it or something? |
11:03.21 | [Ammo] | xp = experience xparky -> sparky |
11:03.21 | [Ammo] | etc |
11:03.46 | SaiBork | and i say im already using player level up too, so what you are saying doesnt make sence at all |
11:04.20 | nevcairiel | xparky sounds like X Car Key |
11:05.05 | SaiBork | hehe, not to me really |
11:05.23 | SaiBork | where do you get that C from in xpar? :P |
11:05.37 | nevcairiel | Par and Car isnt that different :P |
11:06.13 | SaiBork | P and C ar pronounced and created with your mound as sound quite different ;) |
11:07.04 | SaiBork | but that aside, know a way for me to fix me mod? ;) |
11:07.14 | Wobin_ | yes |
11:07.18 | Wobin_ | xparky is totally usable |
11:07.29 | Wobin_ | and x is pronounced 's' =P |
11:07.36 | Wobin_ | or even 'z' |
11:07.42 | Wobin_ | so... xparky |
11:08.03 | Gngsk | weirdo australians |
11:08.07 | SaiBork | also, Cide, quitting is called before actual quitting, so no writing happens yet |
11:08.08 | SaiBork | Fired when the player tries to quit, as opposed to logout, while outside an inn. This event does not indicate that the "player has quit", but instead that the "player has the quitting option". |
11:08.17 | Wobin_ | how do -you- pronounce 'x'? |
11:08.20 | Wobin_ | like xylophone |
11:08.35 | Gngsk | exilophone |
11:08.36 | Wobin_ | 'ex-why-laphone'? |
11:08.40 | Wobin_ | wtf? |
11:08.46 | Gngsk | yes |
11:08.50 | Wobin_ | you're joking? |
11:08.54 | Gngsk | of course |
11:08.55 | nevcairiel | SaiBork: so it wont even fire when in a a inn or a major city, guess thats not intended :) |
11:09.07 | Wobin_ | so how can you mispronounce xparky? |
11:09.22 | widgertick | Because p isn't a vowel |
11:09.24 | nevcairiel | xy is kinda logical to say .. xp .. :p |
11:09.25 | widgertick | Not even remotely |
11:09.25 | Gngsk | well, the problem is, I don't ever actually pronounce it |
11:09.27 | Gngsk | I just read it |
11:09.55 | widgertick | x has a vowel sound associated with it |
11:10.05 | widgertick | In English, because of its name. |
11:10.09 | widgertick | Which is "eks" |
11:10.11 | Gngsk | I dunno, just feels weird looking at it and saying zparky, but I see where you're coming from |
11:10.14 | Wobin_ | yes. alone |
11:10.24 | Wobin_ | but never as a part of a word |
11:10.37 | Wobin_ | if you want 'eks' you precede it with an 'e' |
11:11.01 | widgertick | But if you're writing x and implying a vowel, it's not y |
11:11.29 | SaiBork | oh and also i use: PLAYER_LEAVING_WORLD |
11:11.31 | Wobin_ | ps, implying a vowel? |
11:11.54 | widgertick | Yeah, implying a vowel =) |
11:11.59 | Wobin_ | ...like? |
11:12.05 | SaiBork | but is that also too late then? but again, i have the level up event, so why wont that help? |
11:12.17 | Cide | it will |
11:12.20 | Cide | you're just doing it wrong |
11:12.58 | SaiBork | well thats an easy thing to say |
11:12.58 | Cide | it depends |
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11:12.58 | widgertick | mst ppl cn rd ths sntnce dspt nt hvng vwls bcs thr mpld |
11:13.01 | Cide | the difficult thing is getting the experience requierd to know that you're wrong |
11:13.11 | SaiBork | i have the check events, and a do on event |
11:13.15 | Wobin_ | yes, but where am I implying a vowel? |
11:13.19 | Cide | widgertick: mpld = ? |
11:13.23 | Wobin_ | implied =P |
11:13.24 | nevcairiel | implied |
11:13.26 | nevcairiel | l2read :P |
11:13.28 | Cide | ah |
11:13.37 | Cide | I read "their", not "they're" for 'thr' |
11:13.39 | SaiBork | so it should do the same on all called (checked) events |
11:13.43 | widgertick | You're implying a vowel by not having any vowels. =P |
11:14.02 | nevcairiel | he is not actually implying a vowel with xparky |
11:14.03 | Wobin_ | xparky? |
11:14.07 | Wobin_ | there's an 'a' |
11:14.19 | widgertick | You have two hard consonants at the front |
11:14.20 | nevcairiel | he is actually implying the not-existing vowel at the x |
11:14.24 | nevcairiel | so its zparky |
11:14.37 | nevcairiel | or sparky if you want |
11:14.41 | Wobin_ | indeed |
11:14.51 | Wobin_ | I don't think I could spell it otherwise |
11:14.51 | widgertick | I understand what he's intending to imply =P |
11:14.54 | Wobin_ | with the 'xp' |
11:15.01 | Wobin_ | to get sparky |
11:15.06 | SaiBork | iks-parky :P |
11:15.10 | nevcairiel | xsparky :P |
11:15.20 | Wobin_ | which fails on the 'not xp' front =) |
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11:15.53 | SaiBork | its about the same as ksparky |
11:16.08 | nevcairiel | kSparky sounds like a KDE product |
11:16.09 | SaiBork | pronounciation that is |
11:16.10 | Wobin_ | maybe with a silent 'k' |
11:16.12 | SaiBork | :P |
11:16.34 | SaiBork | x is usually with a hearable 'k' ;) |
11:16.47 | nevcairiel | not in xylophone! |
11:16.58 | Wobin_ | or xenon |
11:17.05 | SaiBork | it is here :P |
11:17.11 | Wobin_ | kylophone? |
11:17.11 | nevcairiel | its not supposed to be |
11:17.15 | widgertick | You know, just the other day I said xylophone in a completely different context. |
11:17.17 | widgertick | IT WAS AMAZING |
11:17.17 | Wobin_ | cause it really isn't =) |
11:17.21 | SaiBork | ksylophone |
11:17.23 | widgertick | ... |
11:17.33 | Wobin_ | ... crazy |
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11:17.40 | SaiBork | ksenon |
11:17.47 | nevcairiel | ksy isnt even pronounceable when you think about it :P |
11:18.02 | Wobin_ | xy·lo·phone (zī'lə-fōn') |
11:18.04 | SaiBork | hey, its something you learn when you're young ;) |
11:18.09 | widgertick | I swear, xylophone gets more play as an example of odd english than it ever has as an instrument =) |
11:18.22 | Wobin_ | there' aren't many 'x' words =) |
11:18.28 | Wobin_ | that are recognisable to kids =) |
11:18.45 | widgertick | We should just change the spelling of zebra =P |
11:18.49 | Wobin_ | xebra |
11:18.51 | SaiBork | yeah |
11:18.58 | SaiBork | appearantly ;0 |
11:18.59 | Wobin_ | that's not ksebra, btw =) |
11:19.07 | SaiBork | too bad :P |
11:19.12 | Wobin_ | XaiBork |
11:19.18 | SaiBork | hmm |
11:19.23 | XaiBork | ;) |
11:19.31 | XaiBork | much cooler |
11:19.43 | Cide | Cyborg* |
11:19.54 | Cide | is cooler still. |
11:19.59 | XaiBork | ooh really, do you think thats where I got it from? ;) |
11:20.13 | Cide | probably, but you messed up the coolness in the process |
11:20.22 | Wobin_ | widgertick: in fact, I'm hard pressed to find many common words starting with x |
11:20.22 | widgertick | I don't think so |
11:20.26 | XaiBork | but searching for Cyborg on anything is not me |
11:20.58 | SaiBork | and loads of little kiddies can have that |
11:21.07 | SaiBork | none-original namings |
11:21.10 | widgertick | I always envisioned him as a teenage mutant ninja turtle that had been abducted by TEH BORG |
11:21.37 | Wobin_ | None of the turtles were named 'sai' |
11:21.45 | Wobin_ | one of them -used- them |
11:21.57 | widgertick | But I only associate sai strongly with Raphael. =P |
11:22.11 | SaiBork | who;s fault is that? ;) |
11:22.36 | widgertick | I blame Jennifer Garner. |
11:22.47 | Wobin_ | shameful |
11:23.02 | Wobin_ | worst movie ever |
11:24.02 | SaiBork | you cant search on wowi.pastey.net on author, can you? |
11:25.04 | nevcairiel | probably not no |
11:25.25 | SaiBork | bah, then i cant find my mod now |
11:25.34 | nevcairiel | lol |
11:26.01 | SaiBork | who owns wowi pastey? :P |
11:26.04 | widgertick | Autopwn is serious, and can strike at any time. |
11:26.19 | widgertick | Don't let autopwn happen to you. |
11:31.59 | SaiBork | bad widgertick, you made people stop chatting and now they might be crying ;) |
11:34.09 | widgertick | ._. |
11:34.12 | widgertick | sowwy |
11:38.29 | SaiBork | hmm, but now i still dont know what is wrong with my mod if i check the events to make it trigger on are quitting, leaving_world and level_up, why it doesnt save the right level :( |
11:39.11 | SaiBork | and even more annoying i dont have access to my code now to show it :( |
11:39.47 | SaiBork | stupid work, need more time off |
11:40.01 | widgertick | It doesn't save the right level? |
11:40.05 | widgertick | What level does it save? |
11:41.08 | SaiBork | well it saves the level i login with, but when i level up during playing it doesnt save the new level |
11:41.40 | widgertick | Well, if you're using UnitLevel() when you get the level up event, then that's the reason why |
11:41.50 | widgertick | UnitLevel doesn't immediately return the correct value |
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11:50.20 | SaiBork | yeah so the leaving world is not good enough to use in the end? |
11:50.41 | widgertick | I'm not sure |
11:50.51 | widgertick | But you could use the arg1 from the player level event |
11:50.56 | widgertick | Instead of UnitLevel |
11:51.41 | SaiBork | hmm |
11:54.59 | SaiBork | ill ask for my code later, but that mosy likely wont be untill 15:00 GMT :P |
11:55.59 | SaiBork | cause i have no idea how to implement that arg1 in the event checking and using that arg1 |
11:57.31 | widgertick | Is this your code? |
11:57.32 | widgertick | http://wowi.pastey.net/82982 |
11:58.27 | SaiBork | thats my php code to parse the results ;) |
11:58.42 | SaiBork | so not the mod itself |
12:00.10 | SaiBork | as a normal page result: http://www.saibork.net/wow/saimix/chars.php (dont check looks, i still need to change that, was more about getting the right results :P) |
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14:36.51 | sysrage | rofl 44 minute queue for WWS at 9am? |
14:39.57 | nevcairiel | get a account :P |
14:40.53 | Kalroth | l2p(ay)! |
14:41.00 | sysrage | i could, but that's a little ridiculous. why would so many ppl be looking at reports right now? |
14:41.55 | sysrage | i probably would have paid if he took my suggestion and added an option to get the single page display back :P |
14:42.00 | sysrage | can't stand that tab crap |
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14:55.23 | Fisker- | if only they would make the project open source :o |
14:55.31 | Fisker- | or atleast purchasable for setting it up locally |
14:56.06 | ralfWORK | that would kinda defeat the business model he has |
14:57.53 | Fisker- | he could still charge for it |
15:03.16 | sysrage | ya. people would still pay |
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15:13.32 | wereHamster | was a successor to the nvidia nv80 chip already annouced? |
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15:20.17 | Maldivia | wereHamster: dunno - if not, there's always Cebit next weekend :9 |
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16:06.41 | SaiBork | Guys, anyone here? ;) Need some help with my code, I changed the level check so it would use the PLAYER_LEVEL_UP event, but now it doesnt save level info at all |
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16:07.09 | SaiBork | XML: http://saibork.pastey.net/83105 |
16:07.18 | SaiBork | LUA: http://saibork.pastey.net/83104 |
16:11.14 | Valaron|Work | http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Save_Variables_Between_Game_Sessions |
16:13.18 | SaiBork | i dont need to save in between |
16:13.30 | Valaron|Work | Oh. I didn't understand your question. |
16:13.33 | Valaron|Work | ..comment. |
16:13.37 | SaiBork | the level thing is the only thing that doesnt work |
16:13.53 | SaiBork | so the arg1 isnt working right |
16:14.18 | nevcairiel | SaiBork: thats because you declare the local inside the if clause, it'll be out of scope when you try to set it later |
16:14.25 | SaiBork | if i just use local PlayerLevel = UnitLevel("player") it works |
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16:14.56 | nevcairiel | use local PlayerLevel = arg1 or UnitLevel("player") |
16:15.03 | nevcairiel | without the if |
16:15.05 | nevcairiel | and it'll work |
16:15.30 | SaiBork | http://saibork.pastey.net/83106 |
16:15.40 | SaiBork | ah that could do too :P |
16:15.40 | nevcairiel | or that |
16:15.50 | SaiBork | yours is shorter ;) |
16:16.46 | SaiBork | if i use yours, cant it still be the wrong one? or will it always use arg1 over the second? (after the or) |
16:17.12 | SaiBork | should do arg1 and only the second if first is not available, right? |
16:17.18 | nevcairiel | yea |
16:17.27 | Maldivia | lua> 1 or 2 |
16:17.27 | lua_bot | Maldivia: 1 |
16:17.44 | Maldivia | lua> nil or 2 |
16:17.45 | lua_bot | Maldivia: 2 |
16:17.58 | SaiBork | yeah |
16:18.06 | SaiBork | thanks, ill try it out now :) |
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16:19.18 | SaiBork | i really should code more, then i wont keep making these stupid mistakes :P |
16:19.43 | Cide | www.lua.org/pil |
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16:20.02 | SaiBork | its not that i dont know, its just mistakes |
16:20.31 | Lopeppeppy | Practice can make a difference, but there will *always* be mistakes! |
16:20.32 | nevcairiel | at work .. for fun .. for university .. :P |
16:20.36 | SaiBork | and i often check lua.org when coding for wow stuff |
16:21.05 | SaiBork | yeah but i dont code often, so mistakes are much easier made and harder to find |
16:21.17 | Cide | hence |
16:21.17 | Cide | www.lua.org/pil |
16:21.21 | SaiBork | especially mistakes like putting a local into an if |
16:21.24 | SaiBork | yeah yeah |
16:21.29 | Lopeppeppy | Cide has the wisdom of linkage. |
16:21.40 | nevcairiel | but thats about it =) |
16:21.57 | Cide | clearly |
16:22.10 | SaiBork | and i dont use that link, i use google to search the site, much easier :P |
16:22.19 | Cide | it's not a reference |
16:22.21 | Cide | it's a tutorial |
16:22.21 | nevcairiel | i have it bookmarked somewhere |
16:22.30 | SaiBork | reference for me |
16:22.34 | Cide | no |
16:22.41 | nevcairiel | altho i have a hard copy of the second edition |
16:23.22 | SaiBork | no? yes it is for me :P |
16:23.30 | Cide | why won't you listen? |
16:23.36 | SaiBork | i dont code enough to read all that |
16:23.37 | Cide | if you suck at lua, go read it |
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16:23.53 | SaiBork | i dont suck at lua, as i said it were stupid mistakes |
16:24.25 | Cide | yes you do |
16:25.11 | SaiBork | i suck because i make a common programming mistake that has nothing to do with lua, right.... |
16:26.20 | Cide | yep |
16:26.48 | SaiBork | and also, i might not know as much about lua as others (suck in your words), but why would i, if i only make a small mod like i just did? |
16:27.26 | Cide | I don't feel like teaching you lua |
16:27.33 | Cide | I can help you with the wow api, and advanced lua stuff |
16:27.34 | SaiBork | i dont ask you to |
16:27.39 | Cide | but the basics isn't really my thing |
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16:46.49 | Atriace | hehe |
16:46.55 | Atriace | "services. sets mode +e Atriace" |
16:47.04 | Atriace | I'm E for everyone! :D |
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16:48.44 | lordgreg | hello all.. |
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16:48.54 | Atriace | 'ello |
16:48.55 | lordgreg | i know this is not that kind of irc chan but anyways... |
16:49.23 | deltron | :D |
16:49.28 | lordgreg | i would like to make new toon- i have lock, drood, pally so far |
16:49.29 | deltron | a/s/l? |
16:49.31 | lordgreg | rogue or warrior? |
16:49.32 | deltron | lulz |
16:49.34 | lordgreg | :D |
16:49.37 | ralfWORK | warrior |
16:49.43 | deltron | shaman |
16:49.43 | ralfWORK | I'm liking my 54 warrior |
16:49.47 | ralfWORK | he's a G |
16:49.55 | lordgreg | i asked rogue or warrior :) |
16:50.04 | deltron | a shaman is kinda both |
16:50.05 | Kaso | play a warrior, but be a tank when you get to 70, not a bloody dps warrior |
16:50.06 | ralfWORK | warrior has more options |
16:50.08 | Kaso | how i hate them |
16:50.18 | ralfWORK | so if you get tired of DPSing, yo ucan spec tank |
16:50.21 | ralfWORK | and vice-versa |
16:50.23 | Atriace | lordgreg: That'd be 3 tankable toons then (if you did a warrior). I'd do a rogue, personally. |
16:50.33 | SaiBork | why? are you being outdamaged Kaso? ;) |
16:50.34 | ralfWORK | if you get tired of DPSing on your rogue... then... well you're just kinda boned |
16:50.41 | lordgreg | which one has a better survival ratio? |
16:50.43 | Kaso | Im a priest actually |
16:50.52 | Kaso | i just hate how i can never find a proper tank |
16:50.53 | lordgreg | well... i have a drood for tanking |
16:50.59 | SaiBork | so? can be shadow, dps too |
16:51.04 | lordgreg | and i have a pally for tanking heroics etc |
16:51.09 | ralfWORK | yea, lol@shadow dps |
16:51.13 | Atriace | Do the rouge, lordgreg. :) |
16:51.20 | lordgreg | thank you :) |
16:51.30 | lordgreg | btw, ralfWORK.. wtf is wrong with shadow dps? o_O |
16:51.36 | SaiBork | yeah :S |
16:51.47 | Atriace | Shadow tops my meters. |
16:51.53 | ralfWORK | lordgreg: aside from the fact that our gear doesn't scale? oh, nothing :) |
16:51.57 | lordgreg | i mean,.. it's not the best, but it's in top 5 of our raiding groups |
16:52.14 | Kaso | Im old school, i want tanks to tank, healers to heal, and dpsers to dps, please |
16:52.20 | ralfWORK | I'd venture to say you run with gimp groups then... but that's just my uninformed view |
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16:53.28 | Kaso | well i dont because the real world isnt like that unfortunatly |
16:53.46 | Lopeppeppy | Or more politely, that Atriace's group has not found the level of bad scaling you have, ralfWORK, or has a different way to maximize their shadow potential. |
16:54.03 | SaiBork | yeah because the real world has elves, orc and all them other races too ;) |
16:54.04 | Kaso | I just enjoy remebering the days when anyone even thinking of being a retrib paladin would be laughed out of the room |
16:54.05 | ralfWORK | Lopeppeppy: sure, that's possible. |
16:54.19 | ralfWORK | Kaso: those days are still here :) |
16:54.40 | SaiBork | so, what's a dr00d then? |
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16:54.50 | ralfWORK | what do you mean? |
16:54.53 | ralfWORK | a druid is... a druid? |
16:55.05 | lordgreg | okay.. |
16:55.11 | lordgreg | thank you everyone for your help :) |
16:55.35 | SaiBork | <Kaso> Im old school, i want tanks to tank, healers to heal, and dpsers to dps, please |
16:55.40 | lordgreg | i has teh rogue see??? SEE??? ofc you don't, i has hidden rogue ^ |
16:55.53 | ralfWORK | what he means is |
16:55.58 | SaiBork | so, whats a druid? ;) |
16:56.06 | Kaso | a druid is a healer |
16:56.10 | ralfWORK | he wants warriors to spec prot and tank, priests to spec holy and heal and rogues to spec combat and dps |
16:56.18 | ralfWORK | he wants to be level 60 again |
16:56.25 | Kaso | yes! |
16:56.27 | Kaso | that^ |
16:56.30 | ralfWORK | lol |
16:58.43 | ralfWORK | anyways |
16:58.50 | Atriace | You know, it's funny mention that ralfWORK, because I have a prot warrior, holy priest, and combat rogue. |
16:58.58 | ralfWORK | Atriace: :) |
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17:05.33 | Atriace | my head... you're making me think, Droolio. |
17:06.03 | Kaso | >.< i sware ive written up this same hsv<->rgb code in lua like 5 times, i really need to save this somewhere permanant |
17:09.39 | Kaso | im sure the code is on pastey |
17:09.52 | Kaso | i wish you could search pastey by Author name |
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17:42.56 | Atriace | Can you pre-quote function argument strings in the function definition entry? |
17:43.42 | Josh_Borke | atriace: are you talking about lua? |
17:43.46 | Atriace | Aye |
17:43.57 | nevcairiel | i dont understand the question :D |
17:44.09 | Atriace | function Foo("arg1", arg2) |
17:44.19 | Atriace | Foo(dinosaurs, 2); |
17:44.22 | Maldivia | no |
17:44.38 | Atriace | pity |
17:44.45 | Maldivia | wouldn't make sense if you could |
17:44.56 | Josh_Borke | atriace: types aren't strict |
17:45.14 | Josh_Borke | so your question doesn't make sense |
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17:45.28 | Atriace | It'd seem to be no different than typing: |
17:45.48 | Josh_Borke | arg1 is a variable assigned to the parameter passed |
17:45.59 | Josh_Borke | hrm, that's wrong description |
17:46.07 | Atriace | wait... that's making sense |
17:46.10 | Josh_Borke | arg1 is a variable who's value is the parameter past |
17:46.42 | Atriace | I see the complication now. nvm. |
17:47.22 | Josh_Borke | that's why your question didn't amke sense to nevcairiel (that and he's dumb) |
17:47.31 | Atriace | :o |
17:47.42 | Maldivia | heh |
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17:56.00 | ScytheBlade1 | holy crap @ new alchemist stones |
17:56.13 | ScytheBlade1 | +54 hit rating? +54 crit? +119 heal? |
17:56.15 | ScytheBlade1 | w t b |
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17:59.12 | nevcairiel | yeah |
17:59.13 | nevcairiel | insane |
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18:06.00 | Hjalte | Most high lvl spellcasters won't be able to really benefit from the spell hit rating :\ |
18:06.09 | Hjalte | high lvl = high armor lvl |
18:06.38 | TecnoBrat-BN | huh? |
18:06.53 | art3mis | http://wowdev.net/codepaste/pastebin.php?show=mb3dc737 |
18:07.02 | ScytheBlade1 | I won't benefit from the hit because (1) I'm not an alchemist and (2) I'm +hit capped anyways |
18:07.26 | TecnoBrat-BN | ScytheBlade1: even if you were hit capped, it means you can change gear and stack more crit |
18:07.51 | ScytheBlade1 | TecnoBrat-BN: which I do with every gear upgrade. I've spent 400g/night in front of the AH buying gems. |
18:08.24 | gnorlish | if the gear is even available to upgrade to... there is a ton of caster gear that has +hit and +crit paired |
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18:10.18 | Gngsk | I'd think you're more likely to drop gear with hit for haste than crit with all the new stuff in 2.4 |
18:10.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Nah. Crit. |
18:10.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Haste... looks pretty, but the itemization is all screwy. |
18:11.07 | ScytheBlade1 | If they'd pair it with other stats I'd be more likely to take some |
18:11.36 | |pez| | I wonder how hard work it'd be, for me to be able to get a loan to open a gamestore, online... |
18:13.19 | Atriace | LIES!!!: http://www.wowwiki.com/UI_Object_SecureUnitButtonTemplate |
18:13.31 | Atriace | There is no such file "UnitWatch.lua". >_< |
18:19.10 | foxlit | Hm, moved it to SecureStateDriver |
18:21.33 | Maldivia | art3mis: hehe, has that one started circulating again ? |
18:24.26 | art3mis | Maldivia: heh prolly just noticed it again |
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18:32.03 | Maldivia | art3mis: think it was the 2000 election I saw it the first time |
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18:33.40 | Lunessa | ... station. |
18:41.40 | Cairenn | lol |
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18:44.39 | Lunessa | ... I feel so lonely. HOLD ME! |
18:44.44 | art3mis | yeah |
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18:52.34 | art3mis | http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/All_work_and_no_play_makes_Jack_a_dull_boy |
18:52.45 | ralfWORK | wtf why does it smell like bleach in here? |
18:53.04 | Lopeppeppy | Because Lunessa is being sanitary. |
18:53.14 | ralfWORK | kk |
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19:16.32 | Lunessa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KC3A5wghO0&NR=1 |
19:18.33 | Lopeppeppy | He has no neck. |
19:21.14 | Lunessa | But his poetry and music are really good. |
19:21.20 | Lopeppeppy | Very very true |
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19:22.20 | Lunessa | Someone smack "Shinkicker" right off the face of the planet please? |
19:22.32 | ralfWORK | ? |
19:22.42 | Lopeppeppy | Yes please! |
19:22.46 | Shirik | :< |
19:22.50 | Shirik | Sooo |
19:22.52 | Shirik | AT&T called me saying my service is set up |
19:22.56 | Shirik | but it definitely doesn't work |
19:22.59 | Cairenn | =/ |
19:23.05 | Shirik | ~ping |
19:23.06 | purl | pong |
19:23.07 | ralfWORK | good ol AT&T |
19:23.13 | zenzelezz | they didn't say it worked, they said it was set up |
19:23.19 | Shirik | .. |
19:23.44 | |pez| | zenzelezz: give me 200k NOK please :D |
19:23.59 | zenzelezz | you may be cute, but I'm not *that* easily fooled |
19:27.53 | Shirik | ~seen Thunder_Child |
19:27.55 | purl | thunder_child <i=Thunder_@cpe-76-171-184-46.socal.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 15d 10h 46m 29s ago, saying: 'ah, pussy of a different flavor'. |
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19:29.31 | kd3 | bah. they ninja-changed the website patchnotes again |
19:29.46 | |pez| | ninjachaaange! |
19:29.59 | |pez| | also zenzelezz, I want to open a store! I need the moneys! |
19:30.16 | Lunessa | The last thing the UI & Macros forum needs is some new guy spreading mis-information because he can't read and thinks he's "kewl" or "l337" |
19:30.28 | ralfWORK | omg we neeeeed him |
19:30.47 | Shirik | I can do that |
19:31.00 | Shirik | can I go spread mis-information because I'm "kewl" and "1337"? |
19:31.26 | zenzelezz | |pez|: and what incentive do I have to hand you all my money? :-p |
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19:32.39 | |pez| | zenzelezz: I'm cute and cuddly? :D ... -__^ |
19:33.00 | Seerah | I'm cute and cuddly - do I get money? |
19:33.08 | Lunessa | Shirik: You're totally l337 - now build me a fucking robot slave that will conquer the world for me. |
19:33.30 | Shirik | already working on 2 |
19:33.32 | Shirik | and one's done |
19:33.48 | Lunessa | SWEET |
19:34.19 | Shirik | but its objective is to conquer mars, not earth |
19:34.51 | Lunessa | Well, Mars works too. I want an army of martian slaves too. Especially if the women are hawt. :P |
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19:35.01 | ralfWORK | mm.... martian women |
19:35.05 | break19 | <- ugly, can I get money for plastic surgery? |
19:35.24 | ralfWORK | <- ugly, can I get money for hookers? |
19:35.39 | |pez| | it's the cuteness within that matters! |
19:35.46 | break19 | ralfWORK: my request is more useful. |
19:35.56 | ralfWORK | |pez|: only if you are gurl |
19:36.07 | ralfWORK | and if you are gurl can I have pics plox? thx |
19:36.28 | |pez| | ralfWORK: hah, if you weren't here when I posted pics of myself, you don't get to see! |
19:36.42 | break19 | not hardly.. if I get plastic surgery, then I wont be repulsive to girls, and therefore wont need to pay for sex, and worry about getting caught by a sting operation. |
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19:37.02 | ralfWORK | |pez|: D: |
19:37.31 | break19 | |pez|: if I snap your head backwards, will I get some sweet piece? of candy? |
19:37.48 | ralfWORK | hahahaa |
19:37.53 | |pez| | break19: I don't think it works like that really. |
19:38.00 | |pez| | But the boyfriend tells me my neck tastes good. |
19:38.12 | ralfWORK | your boyfriend eats your neck? |
19:38.20 | |pez| | he nibbles on it. |
19:38.28 | Lunessa | ...TMI |
19:38.30 | ralfWORK | he's a cannibal |
19:38.34 | ralfWORK | run. now. |
19:38.43 | |pez| | like... without biting anything off XD |
19:38.50 | break19 | i want a hot girlfriend... |
19:38.52 | ralfWORK | D: |
19:38.54 | break19 | but my wife wont let me get one |
19:38.59 | ralfWORK | break19: ahhaahaha |
19:39.16 | break19 | even tho I told her "she could be YOUR girlfriend too!" still no dice :( |
19:39.31 | ralfWORK | nice |
19:39.49 | |pez| | break19: yaaah, same with me wanting a hawt boyfriend, current boyfriend won't let me get another one. :\ |
19:39.52 | break19 | i even had the girl alll picked out.. and she thinks my wife is hot.. oh well.. such is life.. |
19:40.16 | break19 | |pez|: lol |
19:40.16 | Shirik | Anyone here use WoW on mac? |
19:40.25 | ralfWORK | Shirik: me |
19:40.37 | break19 | Darwin blackbox 9.2.0 Darwin Kernel Version 9.2.0: Tue Feb 5 16:15:19 PST 2008; root:xnu-1228.3.13~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh |
19:40.41 | Shirik | Can you tell me where your Cache folder is, and the exact capitalization of it? (In your WoW folder) |
19:40.41 | batrick | |pez|: did you tell him that he could be his boyfriend too? |
19:40.58 | |pez| | batrick: I told him we could share the new one. |
19:41.00 | ralfWORK | Shirik: oh not on this mac. break19 can probably tell you now |
19:41.07 | Shirik | ok, break19? |
19:41.12 | |pez| | but he didn't want to. :( |
19:41.12 | break19 | sec. |
19:41.17 | Lunessa | Shirik: Me. |
19:41.28 | Shirik | so slow |
19:41.42 | break19 | . /Applications/World\ of\ Warcraft/Cache/WDB/enUS/ |
19:42.07 | Shirik | and WoW.app is inside World of Warcraft right? |
19:42.31 | MentalPower | Shirik: IIRC, the dir structure is the same everywhere, except WinVista |
19:42.45 | Shirik | that's why I'm confused why someone's reporting it as not working... |
19:42.50 | ralfWORK | well |
19:42.52 | break19 | World of Warcraft Launcher.app/ and World of Warcraft.app/ |
19:42.56 | Shirik | And I use vista btw :P It's the same |
19:42.57 | ralfWORK | you can move it to any folder you want |
19:43.06 | ralfWORK | I mean |
19:43.12 | ralfWORK | it doesn't have to be in /Applications |
19:43.12 | MentalPower | Shirik: do you use Program Files? |
19:43.30 | ralfWORK | you could put it in /Applications/WoW instead |
19:43.38 | break19 | or in the root |
19:43.40 | Shirik | You can if you tell UAC to elevate it or turn off UAC |
19:43.47 | Shirik | But I use a different drive |
19:43.51 | Shirik | so UAC doesn't block it anyway |
19:44.09 | MentalPower | Shirik: I use a diff directory so UAC does not block it either |
19:44.14 | TecnoBrat-BN | UAC is so buggy |
19:44.20 | MentalPower | C:\Installs\World of Warcraft |
19:44.23 | Shirik | how is it "buggy" ? |
19:44.24 | MentalPower | TecnoBrat: oh? |
19:44.38 | TecnoBrat-BN | Because in many cases it doesn't block things it should |
19:44.39 | kd3 | wtf |
19:44.41 | Shirik | Or is this another one of those things where we're spreading FUD because nobody knows how Vista works |
19:44.53 | kd3 | "Players will no longer need the Master’s Key to enter Karazhan. The gates to Karazhan will still require the Master’s Key to be unlocked." |
19:44.56 | Shirik | Care to give an example? Because I've done pretty extensive testing with it. |
19:45.08 | ScytheBlade1 | 0_0 |
19:45.13 | ralfWORK | kd3: orly? |
19:45.14 | pastamancer | kd3: so karazhan really is the new UBRS? |
19:45.23 | ralfWORK | OMG THEY ARE REMOVING ATTUNEMENT THE HUNTSMAN?! |
19:45.26 | Shirik | NO |
19:45.32 | ScytheBlade1 | pastamancer: technically now is isn't the new UBRS |
19:45.33 | Shirik | grr |
19:45.34 | kd3 | that showed up in today's copy of the PTR patch notes on the website |
19:45.35 | ScytheBlade1 | UBRS still needs a key. |
19:45.50 | break19 | so does kara? |
19:45.51 | Shirik | so does Kara |
19:46.00 | kd3 | the same way kara will in 2.4, just one person in the raid needs the key to get in |
19:46.00 | pastamancer | only one person needs the key |
19:46.07 | ScytheBlade1 | http://files.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/Patches/PTR/patchnotes/02-28-2008-12.diff |
19:46.08 | ralfWORK | one to open the door is what it's saying right |
19:46.10 | deltron | awesome, I don't need to key up my alts now |
19:46.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, gg |
19:46.12 | ScytheBlade1 | I misread |
19:46.17 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ website diff of the patch notes, btw |
19:46.18 | ralfWORK | just like Arc |
19:46.29 | Shirik | wow lag |
19:46.56 | ralfWORK | sucks |
19:47.05 | ralfWORK | guess we won't be pugging anyone through there anymore |
19:47.11 | TecnoBrat-BN | Shirik: well, with UAC you can actually exploit it and as long as the parent process has been given permissions, you can ride on that and do things |
19:47.19 | Shirik | that's not an exploit |
19:47.21 | Shirik | that is called intentional |
19:47.28 | Shirik | In fact, I use it, intentionally, because I have to. |
19:47.57 | Shirik | Read the white papers on UAC sometime -- it's how the UI manager works. The C++ app requests UAC elevation and passes it along to Java because Java cannot make that request. |
19:48.06 | deltron | Improved Hamstring (Arms) effect is now subject to diminishing returns when used in PvP. |
19:48.09 | deltron | YES |
19:48.35 | Shirik | In order to create a child without permissions you have to explicitly tell Windows that you want to create the process non-elevated |
19:48.46 | SaiBork | Hey guys, I'm home now and can really test my codes, but for some reason it still wont save the right level and still uses the old level (the one i log in with) |
19:48.54 | SaiBork | http://saibork.pastey.net/83106 |
19:49.03 | MentalPower | TecnoBrat: that is intentional, the windows guys even said so in their blog |
19:49.06 | MentalPower | aka, not a bug |
19:50.17 | TecnoBrat-BN | Unfortunatly it causes the situation where you can create a launcher app, spoofed as a program that should have permissions, the launcher app launches the program its spoofed as, as well as another malicious program. Both the program you wanted to open and the malicious one get permissions, and you are no better off than you were. |
19:50.33 | TecnoBrat-BN | bug or not |
19:50.39 | Shirik | That's why signatures exist in UAC manifests |
19:50.40 | TecnoBrat-BN | its still a problem imo |
19:50.55 | Shirik | If you want it really secure you should get a signature, which most applications have |
19:51.14 | ScytheBlade1 | +<li>Elites in Blade?s Edge Plateau Regions: These creatures now have an increased chance to drop rare depleted items. |
19:51.15 | Shirik | If the signature mismatches, it doesn't allow you to launch it. If the signature doesn't exist, it warns you of its inability to identify it. |
19:51.17 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
19:51.24 | ralfWORK | ScytheBlade1: url? |
19:51.47 | ScytheBlade1 | http://files.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/Patches/PTR/patchnotes/02-28-2008-12.diff |
19:51.54 | ralfWORK | thx |
19:52.00 | ralfWORK | oh lol |
19:52.02 | ScytheBlade1 | I setup a script to do a semi-hourly diff of the PTR patch notes on the website |
19:52.09 | Shirik | That would be no better than me just randomly creating some app to do whatever and have it elevated |
19:52.53 | Shirik | These aren't bugs with UAC; your understanding of UAC is flawed. Take one of the Blizzard updates into a hex editor and change a byte, then see what UAC does. You'll see the screen does not look the same. |
19:53.51 | ScytheBlade1 | +<li>Icy Veins no longer stacks with Bloodlust, Heroism, or Power Infusion. |
19:53.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Such bull crap |
19:54.06 | kd3 | ya. not a happy camper at that change |
19:54.30 | ScytheBlade1 | You know, if they all stacked |
19:54.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Fire might be arena viable ;P |
19:54.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Something about 1s fireballs... |
19:54.46 | kd3 | lmao |
19:54.49 | Cide | icy veins works on fireballs? that's funny. |
19:54.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Icy Veins is a global haste increase |
19:55.04 | Cide | I knew that |
19:55.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Not specific to any one school or tree |
19:55.11 | Cide | but I didn't realize that it lead to funny consequences |
19:55.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah |
19:55.28 | ScytheBlade1 | IV + Heroism = 0.96s fireballs |
19:56.13 | ScytheBlade1 | +<li>Shamanistic Rage is now a Physical ability instead of a Magic spell, and thus is no longer dispellable. It now reduces all damage taken by 30% and gives your successful melee attacks a chance to regenerate mana equal to 30% of your attack power. This lasts for 15 seconds with a 2 minute cooldown. |
19:56.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Holy crap |
19:59.12 | deltron | it's a nerf |
19:59.18 | deltron | h8 h8 h8 h8 h8 |
19:59.34 | ScytheBlade1 | I just posted it on the shaman forums |
19:59.38 | ScytheBlade1 | We'll see what comes of that thread |
20:00.03 | Lunessa | Anyone got a link to the article on clearing the trojan that plagued incgamers ? |
20:00.22 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14502 |
20:00.41 | Cairenn | get you the one on Blizz forums in a sec |
20:00.49 | Lunessa | That'll do. :) |
20:01.41 | Cairenn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3881821845&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
20:03.36 | Lunessa | Thank you Cairenn |
20:03.47 | Cairenn | you're welcome Lunessa :) |
20:04.09 | Cairenn | do I want to ask why? please tell me they aren't infected again! |
20:04.27 | Lunessa | Comes in handy when answering "why don't ah makroz save?" questions. |
20:04.38 | Cairenn | true enough |
20:04.53 | Cairenn | check for other things first, of couse - read only, vista, etc |
20:06.25 | Lunessa | *nods* |
20:06.51 | Lunessa | I just needed it for completeness. |
20:07.02 | Cairenn | yup :) |
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20:29.40 | batrick | --> rap() |
20:29.40 | batbot | batrick: > Your sad rhymes are spinnin' like you're in a deadlock, You're like a synchronous sock that don't know when to block; So I pull out my keyboard and I pull out my glock, And I dismount your girl and I mount /proc. And I've got your f-----...(tldr) |
20:29.59 | batrick | shirik u make that? |
20:30.23 | ralfWORK | wtf lol |
20:30.34 | Cairenn | lol |
20:32.00 | Shirik | yes :P |
20:32.04 | Shirik | sorry on phone with bellsouth |
20:32.12 | Shirik | But actually that's by Monzy |
20:32.14 | Shirik | I just quoted him |
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20:40.31 | Shirik | hm, well that was kinda cool |
20:40.49 | Shirik | I didn't talk to a human, but the computer did complete problem analysis and generated a ticket for me, even told me what the problem was.... |
20:40.59 | Shirik | unfortunately they have to send a technician to my house |
20:41.11 | ralfWORK | orly? |
20:41.15 | ralfWORK | and what was the problem? |
20:41.58 | Shirik | It said there was a short across my main line resulting them all switching on a "protection" circuit basically, so all my lines are cut |
20:42.08 | ralfWORK | holy shit |
20:42.10 | ralfWORK | wow |
20:42.11 | Shirik | I could probably fix it |
20:42.14 | Shirik | but I don't want to mess with it |
20:42.28 | ralfWORK | that's a fairly specific error for an automated system to tell you that |
20:42.35 | Shirik | Well it just told me it found the problem first :P |
20:42.40 | Shirik | Later it asked if I wanted more info and it said that |
20:42.44 | ralfWORK | lol |
20:42.46 | ralfWORK | still |
20:42.54 | Shirik | but yeah, it was really cool |
20:43.17 | Shirik | "While I'm running some tests on your line, can you please give me some contact information in case we need to contact you?" |
20:43.41 | Shirik | "Okay, I have found the problem with your line. The earliest I can send out a technician to repair the problem is February 29, 2008" |
20:43.51 | Shirik | it was pretty impressive |
20:43.59 | ralfWORK | oh wewt leapday tomorrow |
20:46.25 | Cide | OHMYGODTODAYISADAYWHICHDOESNOTEXIST <-- watch for it |
20:46.37 | ralfWORK | :D |
20:47.46 | Valaron|Work | As long as I still get paid on the non-existent day. |
20:47.52 | ralfWORK | oh |
20:47.54 | ralfWORK | good point |
20:47.59 | ralfWORK | BE CAREFUL |
20:48.14 | Lopeppeppy | Omg, [Tinfoil Hats] on! |
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20:48.21 | ralfWORK | Y2K8FEB29 BUGZZZ |
20:48.31 | Kaso | error loading module 'socket.core' from file 'C:\Program Files (x86)\lua\5.1.3\socket\core.dll': %1 is not a valid Win32 application. |
20:48.43 | ralfWORK | planes are gonna fall outa teh sky |
20:48.45 | Kaso | Im trying to install luasocket, but i cant work this error out :< |
20:48.53 | Kaso | when i try to require("socket") |
20:48.53 | art3mis | ralfWORK: ^^ Y2K8FEB29 bug ;P |
20:49.08 | art3mis | or kaso sucks |
20:49.12 | art3mis | one of the two ;P |
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20:50.27 | Shirik | Kaso: Does it take any extra parameters? |
20:50.29 | batrick | sounds like someone screwed up a capture |
20:50.31 | Shirik | I don't know anything about LuaSocket so no |
20:50.55 | ralfWORK | ;D |
20:51.10 | Valaron|Work | http://www.tecgraf.puc-rio.br/~diego/professional/luasocket/installation.html |
20:51.20 | Shirik | ralfWORK: That's actually why critical systems are not allowed to know what time it is |
20:51.24 | Shirik | the GPS, etc., is ok to have that |
20:51.32 | Shirik | but avionics, etc., only know how long it's been in flight |
20:51.38 | ralfWORK | lol |
20:51.45 | Shirik | I doubt it's because feb 29 |
20:51.59 | Shirik | but just to avoid that problem ever happening |
20:52.06 | TecnoBrat-BN | its because we are retards |
20:52.10 | TecnoBrat-BN | and keep fucking with time |
20:52.15 | TecnoBrat-BN | like .. changing DST |
20:52.33 | Kaso | Ive been following that Valaron|Work and its identify all the files it needs just mucking up as it tries to load core.dll |
20:52.34 | ralfWORK | what if bush decides that a second isn't a second anymore then all those systems are going to break and we are screwed :( |
20:52.48 | Shirik | I would personally go shoot him |
20:52.54 | TecnoBrat-BN | ralfWORK: or that each hour should have 61 mins |
20:52.54 | ralfWORK | D: |
20:52.56 | Shirik | Sick of waiting for someone to assasinate him, I'll do it myself |
20:53.01 | Valaron|Work | Hmm |
20:53.08 | ralfWORK | TecnoBrat-BN: yes that! |
20:53.15 | wereHamster | Y2K8 == 2008, uses up the same number of bytes, so why do people use the cryptic Y2K8 ? |
20:53.17 | ralfWORK | american minutes have 58 seconds |
20:53.22 | TecnoBrat-BN | lol |
20:53.32 | Shirik | wereHamster: It makes you look 1337 |
20:53.35 | TecnoBrat-BN | imperial system, amirite? |
20:53.46 | ralfWORK | how about the fact that we have DST at all |
20:53.51 | ralfWORK | that's actually pretty gay |
20:54.03 | TecnoBrat-BN | lol yea |
20:54.09 | zenzelezz | Shirik is totally not 539 |
20:54.18 | TecnoBrat-BN | So the purpose was to make it so farmers could have an extra hour of daylight |
20:54.34 | TecnoBrat-BN | well, why didn't they just change their alarm clock to wake up earlier? |
20:54.52 | ralfWORK | because of george bush D: |
20:54.58 | TecnoBrat-BN | maybe their rooster had a clock? |
20:55.21 | Kaso | wereHamster it uses the same amount of bytes, but specifies that it is infact a year value rather than just a plain number, more infomation, same bytes = win |
20:55.24 | ralfWORK | and actually, I always understood DST to exist to increase consumer spending during the summer |
20:55.59 | Kaso | DST has many many impacts, crime, productivity in almost all fields. |
20:56.07 | Kaso | People dont like working when its dark |
20:56.08 | art3mis | DST was created during war time, to alter the work day |
20:56.50 | TecnoBrat-BN | I was being extremely sarcastic :P |
20:57.11 | art3mis | actually you were being humourously ignorant ;P |
20:57.25 | zenzelezz | like most Americans |
20:57.36 | art3mis | no zen thats blissfully ignorant ;P |
20:57.40 | TecnoBrat-BN | art3mis: good point, you are correct |
20:57.42 | Kaso | Could my "%1 is not a valid Win32 application." error with luasocket be due to using 64bit lua, and the luasocket dlls being 32 bit? |
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20:59.59 | Kaso | that makes sense to me, perhaps ill have to compile my own luasocket binaries >.< |
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21:03.04 | wereHamster | Kaso, yeah, let's start using the full 8bits in a byte rather then 7bit ascii ;) |
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21:03.24 | wereHamster | twice the information per byte!! |
21:03.40 | TecnoBrat-BN | http://www.5min.com/Video/How-to-Abuse-Rollercoaster-Tycoon-3-Massacre-7017249 |
21:05.20 | Kaso | im disapointed that people just stand back up after :< |
21:06.19 | TecnoBrat-BN | Kaso: more blood require right? |
21:06.40 | Kaso | mmm |
21:06.45 | art3mis | yay! |
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21:32.38 | Shirik | Haha |
21:32.39 | Shirik | Dos Ogris |
21:32.42 | Shirik | great name for a beer |
21:35.43 | Shirik | TecnoBrat: Lmao |
21:35.47 | Shirik | "Yey!!!" |
21:35.49 | Shirik | at the end |
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21:48.33 | art3mis | ahh that felt good |
21:49.05 | art3mis | some douche signed up for his facebook type site that doesnt send out an email validation link so i was getting spammed with all her lame friends |
21:49.13 | art3mis | so i reset the passwd and canceled the account |
21:49.28 | Duman | heh |
21:49.48 | Duman | which "facebook type site" was this? |
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21:49.59 | ralfWORK | warcraft.com |
21:50.16 | art3mis | "why are you leaving?" "because youre site is a piece of crap and doesnt validate emails which resulted in me getting spammed because someone cant type thier proper email address" |
21:50.25 | Duman | heh |
21:50.25 | Cide | your. |
21:50.33 | art3mis | thanks darling |
21:50.40 | art3mis | thats paraphrasing actually |
21:50.50 | art3mis | i used a lot more obsceneties |
21:51.19 | art3mis | hi5 or something stupid |
21:52.24 | Shirik | http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=622101 |
21:53.11 | Shirik | this hard drive comes packaged with free glitter for arts and crafts |
21:53.12 | Duman | ahh |
21:53.15 | art3mis | hehe ive had maxtor drives shatter the platters before |
21:53.18 | ralfWORK | wow that's awesome |
21:53.25 | Duman | I like how social networks are being compared to us now :P |
21:53.25 | art3mis | thats a sound you never wanna hear |
21:53.40 | ralfWORK | I've heard dead/dying drives before |
21:53.46 | ralfWORK | don't think I've ever heard one shatter though |
21:53.56 | art3mis | its evil |
21:54.04 | art3mis | it's like there are screaming souls wanting to come out |
21:54.12 | art3mis | and at first you cant place where its coming from |
21:54.12 | Shirik | lmao |
21:54.14 | ralfWORK | rofl |
21:54.33 | deltron | I saw that earlier this morning Shirik, freaking crazy lol |
21:54.38 | art3mis | until the CHUNK and high pitched whine gives it away |
21:54.40 | kd3 | platters... /shattering/ |
21:55.04 | Lunessa | WoW Forums = "Server is Busy N00B" Lunessa = :( |
21:55.20 | Shirik | how can I ask SVN what my current branch is? |
21:55.27 | ralfWORK | svn info |
21:55.31 | Shirik | thanks |
21:55.38 | ralfWORK | will tell you what your current path info is |
21:55.41 | art3mis | buy it drinks |
21:56.01 | ralfWORK | I find my current branch in my pants though |
21:57.22 | Shirik | tmi really |
21:57.36 | art3mis | by branch he means tinder ;P |
21:58.09 | ralfWORK | twig :( |
21:58.34 | Lopeppeppy | toothpick |
21:59.12 | ralfWORK | :D |
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21:59.17 | sag_ich_nicht | hm |
21:59.50 | sag_ich_nicht | there seems to be a bug at solarian when the bomb gets applied to a player that is currently charging (i.e. the debuff doesn't show up until after the charge), can someone verify/report this on the bug reports forum for me? |
22:00.15 | sag_ich_nicht | (the timer for it still runs tho, which is the problem) |
22:00.21 | deltron | lolol |
22:00.49 | sag_ich_nicht | one of our bears killed 2 people because of that earlier |
22:01.03 | sag_ich_nicht | "you're the boBOOOOOOOM" |
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22:01.42 | zenzelezz | verify how? Take 25 chargers and hope someone gets it at the right time? :-o |
22:01.46 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah |
22:01.47 | sag_ich_nicht | ! |
22:01.48 | sag_ich_nicht | :D |
22:01.49 | Lunessa | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/ssotd/#latest |
22:02.11 | sag_ich_nicht | lol win |
22:02.14 | Shirik | haha |
22:02.25 | Atriace | I running into some unexpected dead-ends. Anyone know how to retrieve current camera pitch/yaw? |
22:04.56 | Shirik | iirc, you don't. |
22:05.26 | Atriace | um, talking about WoW, not IRC.. |
22:05.39 | Shirik | I know what you're talking about |
22:05.43 | Atriace | Ah ok. |
22:06.24 | Lunessa | Atriace: - you don't. There's no API for it. |
22:06.30 | Atriace | gaaaah! |
22:06.32 | Atriace | my heart.... |
22:06.38 | Shirik | isn't that what I just said? |
22:06.40 | Shirik | o.o |
22:06.56 | Lunessa | Yes. But I wanted to kick him one more time. |
22:07.13 | Atriace | I think I needed it spelled out to believe it. |
22:07.49 | Atriace | ... I don't think I'm completely conviced though. |
22:09.06 | Kaso | Wow, screw the drudge report. |
22:10.23 | Kaso | Breaking the secret about Prince Harry in afganistan, how did they think that was a good idea. |
22:12.38 | Lopeppeppy | How do you think it was going to remain secret? |
22:12.59 | Kaso | Well i'd been kept secret for 10 weeks by the british media |
22:13.41 | Lopeppeppy | It was announced that he was going there before he ever left. It's therefore not a huge secret that he was there, and someone finally dug out where. |
22:13.42 | Cide | yeah, but headlines = money |
22:13.59 | Cide | whether or not it's a good idea is largely irrelevant |
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22:18.33 | Kaso| | It was last year that it was announced harry was going to fight, but that was in iraq and was pulled due to media coverage. Until this evening noone here knew anything about him being over in afghanistan. |
22:21.57 | Gnarfoz | teron gorefiend: where do the spells for the ghost form go? mind control bar or pet bar? |
22:22.36 | Kaso | theres a difference between Mind control bar and Pet bar? |
22:25.50 | pastamancer | yeah |
22:26.00 | pastamancer | MC replaces your default action buttons |
22:26.16 | Kaso | ooh? when did that come in? |
22:26.22 | pastamancer | 2.3 |
22:26.26 | pastamancer | I think |
22:26.33 | Kaso | ah, very cool |
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22:32.03 | kd3 | ah, damn it all... 20193/21k |
22:32.19 | deltron | lol what rep kd3? |
22:32.28 | kd3 | shattered sun on the PTR |
22:32.39 | deltron | wow nice |
22:35.11 | Shirik | new strategy in blade's edge arena |
22:35.17 | Shirik | throw off enemy team's healer off the bridge |
22:35.18 | Shirik | win |
22:36.18 | nevcairiel | thats not new |
22:36.40 | art3mis | if that wasnt yer first line of offence as a preist yuo fail so hard as a priest |
22:36.47 | Shirik | It's new for me |
22:36.58 | Shirik | my first line of offense as a priest is not to die |
22:36.59 | Shirik | and it works |
22:37.02 | Shirik | I'm a tanking priest |
22:37.02 | art3mis | there's a reason priests flock to the lumbermill in ab ;P |
22:37.12 | deltron | lol |
22:37.16 | Shirik | well LM yeah |
22:37.24 | art3mis | same holds true everywhere |
22:37.32 | art3mis | "alliance giving yout roubles on the bridge in av? |
22:37.37 | art3mis | thro2w em off |
22:37.58 | Shirik | my team dies too quickly to waste time MCing unfortunately |
22:38.05 | art3mis | alliance running away with the flag in wsg? make him return it for you |
22:38.39 | art3mis | our healer in the premade used to he so on the ball he'd heal my mc targets before realizing that we didnt have paladins ;P |
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22:41.04 | Shirik | RDX stops me from doing that :) |
22:41.19 | Shirik | I have it configured so that it warns me if a target in my heal boxes is an MC target |
22:41.30 | Shirik | still lets me heal it if I want to, but it warns me |
22:41.43 | Cide | wow. do you have your mod tell you who to heal as well? :P |
22:41.53 | Shirik | I considered that a long time ago |
22:42.00 | deltron | lol |
22:42.07 | Shirik | I just never got around to doing it |
22:42.16 | deltron | there used to be mods like that way back when |
22:42.18 | Shirik | and considering RDX is completely busted in 2.4, no sense in trying that; rather put it for conspiracy |
22:42.23 | Shirik | I'll tell you Cide, pre-2.0 |
22:42.37 | Shirik | Veni was discussing RDX making an action bar that automatically figures ou the best spell to use |
22:42.43 | Shirik | and then rearrange the bar to pick that |
22:42.48 | nevcairiel | and the target? <.< |
22:42.48 | Shirik | put that at button one |
22:43.02 | Shirik | he never talked about the target but surely that would just be a minor extension |
22:43.03 | Cide | Shirik: nice |
22:43.13 | pastamancer | rock 'em, sock 'em RDX robots |
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22:58.46 | kd3 | whee... 20943/21k |
23:02.12 | sag_ich_nicht | kd3 report a bug for me? |
23:02.30 | sag_ich_nicht | please? :> |
23:02.30 | kd3 | put it on pastey and poke me with the url |
23:02.43 | sag_ich_nicht | no pastey needed, it's very short |
23:03.23 | sag_ich_nicht | there seems to be a bug at solarian when the bomb gets applied to a player that is currently charging; i.e. the debuff doesn't show up until after the charge, but the timer is already started and running |
23:05.27 | kd3 | I haven't done solarian in a long time. don't remember the fight. be specific so I can copypasta it |
23:06.38 | sag_ich_nicht | kd3: he does a bomb debuff. you know. like in MC |
23:07.23 | sag_ich_nicht | what's there to be more specific, the timer for the debuff apparently gets started but the debuff only shows up after the charge |
23:09.15 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4976289733&postId=49757825159&sid=1#0 |
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23:11.50 | batrick | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/ssotd/#1258 |
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23:14.48 | Valaron|Work | Cute |
23:19.28 | kd3 | huzzah. I am now "Kaydeethree of the Shattered Sun" |
23:20.04 | Lunessa | Your eyes remind me of the Sunwell; before the explosion that doomed us all! |
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23:24.17 | Shirik | whee |
23:24.19 | Shirik | time to make brownies |
23:24.53 | Shirik | or not |
23:24.53 | Shirik | crap |
23:25.01 | Shirik | I just put my measuring cup in the dishwasher :( |
23:25.30 | batrick | are tehy magic brownies? |
23:25.33 | batrick | if not they should be =) |
23:26.19 | Kaso | I say live a little and use rough measurements |
23:26.38 | kd3 | damn! 10g, 2 tomes, 10 signets, 1 major frost power, 3 mana, 4 healing, 2 mastery, 5 food and 8 water for hitting exalted |
23:26.54 | WobWork | ahah |
23:27.05 | WobWork | With the MS proliferation |
23:27.10 | WobWork | the next suggestion? |
23:27.13 | WobWork | Mortal Portals =) |
23:27.16 | TecnoBrat-BN | mmmm pie |
23:27.20 | Shirik | Kaso: I can't cook with directions |
23:27.23 | Shirik | I'm not about to go roll my own |
23:27.50 | WobWork | feh |
23:27.53 | WobWork | Brownies are forgiving |
23:28.01 | WobWork | I've made brownies with a packet of timtams |
23:28.06 | WobWork | Mmmm |
23:30.15 | Shirik | ooh |
23:30.17 | Shirik | cool |
23:30.34 | Shirik | How are you doing? Long time no talk. Expect everything well with you. Sharon told me she talked w/you sometime ago and let you know I have been promoted as the Manager in Nov. There is still a lot of things I need to learn with the new position and responsibility |
23:30.35 | Shirik | Just wonder if you have any plan for your summer internship this year. Are you still interested to work with us? Let me know, see what I can do. Thanks. |
23:30.55 | Cairenn | lol |
23:31.12 | Shirik | p.s. I hate to be racist, but can anyone guess what country he's from, based on that email? |
23:32.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Selective quoting go! |
23:32.29 | ScytheBlade1 | "I hate to be racist, but" |
23:32.49 | Shirik | answer the question! |
23:32.58 | Shirik | because there's a follow up to it :( |
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23:33.41 | Shirik | ANYWAY |
23:33.42 | Lunessa | Shirik: I expect they are from India. |
23:33.46 | Shirik | he's from hong kong |
23:33.56 | Shirik | And even his signature is a fortune cookie: ** People Who Feel Good About Themselves Produce Good Results ** |
23:34.02 | Lunessa | Same hemisphere.... |
23:34.13 | ScytheBlade1 | alestane: minor typo in your thread on the PTR forums... "it would b appreciated" |
23:34.23 | Shirik | yo i b appreciatin |
23:34.26 | Lunessa | Must have to adjust my sensors to a finer granularity. |
23:34.34 | Shirik | close enough Lunessa :) |
23:34.37 | alestane | Yes, I saw that, but didn't really feel like it necessitated an edit. |
23:34.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: you're scaring me. |
23:34.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Fair enough, just as long as you saw it |
23:34.53 | Shirik | Anyway I intended to ask them to see if I could come back, but he beat me to it >< |
23:35.24 | alestane | I have to get off that forum for a while. No real progress can be made without more feedback or another build other than tallying votes. |
23:38.19 | ScytheBlade1 | One change still saddens me |
23:38.20 | ScytheBlade1 | +<li>The Clockwork Rocket Bot can no longer be buffed. |
23:38.47 | kd3 | ya, I refuse to go anywhere near the lifetap threads right now. it's just not worth it |
23:39.35 | Shirik | :( |
23:39.40 | Shirik | I just found one of my old RP posts |
23:39.44 | Shirik | it's depressing |
23:39.45 | Shirik | haha |
23:39.51 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
23:40.02 | Shirik | Actually I found the first half |
23:40.04 | Shirik | but I remember the second half |
23:40.11 | Shirik | it was so long that I saved to my HDD before posting it |
23:40.32 | alestane | I've done my best to contribute something, and I like to think I have. But the devs simply aren't going to provide the half-hourly updates on their thought process that would make some kind of meaningful discourse possible, so it's just a bunch of warlocks repeating the same arguments and complaints over and over. |
23:40.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
23:41.04 | Lunessa | Mostly along the lines of "FUCK YOU BLIZZARD"? |
23:41.05 | alestane | And while I think most of them are valid complaints and arguments, there's nothing left to add. |
23:41.30 | batrick | http://xkcd.com/ |
23:41.36 | batrick | you know what's the best part about that comic? |
23:41.41 | ScytheBlade1 | The rickroll? |
23:41.46 | batrick | yes =) |
23:42.09 | alestane | I agree. The change in its last two forms destroys a core tenet of the warlock class. But I was refreshing the forum addictively and I have to get away from it. |
23:43.01 | ScytheBlade1 | You know, I can see their desire to keep the rules in PvE and PvP the same. But seriously, if they decided to go ahead and threw that to the wind, I wouldn't mind in the least |
23:43.14 | Maul | http://xkcd.com/386/ lol |
23:43.24 | ScytheBlade1 | It's already there to an extent (diminishing returns?) but - eh |
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23:45.21 | ScytheBlade1 | +<li>Durnholde Lookouts no longer spawn in the Heroic version of the instance. The placement of creatures around Durnholde Keep in Heroic mode is now identical to that of Normal mode. |
23:45.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Just noticed that |
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23:47.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm, I wonder how hard it would be to add an RSS feed to my automated PTR patch notes diff.. |
23:52.51 | Syzgyn | batrick: omg I cant believe I didnt see that that in the comic before |
23:54.53 | WobWork | Syzgyn: You're clearly not a music nerd =) |
23:55.12 | WobWork | That was my first impulse =P |
23:56.03 | Syzgyn | WobWork: The sad part is I am :( I just didn't even bother reading it |
23:56.43 | alestane | What, is the staff overhead some kind of joke? I don't sight-read well. |
23:57.06 | Syzgyn | It's the music for the rickroll song |
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23:58.25 | alestane | Ah. Now I not only don't sight-read well, but I wouldn't recognize "Never Gonna Give You Up". |
23:58.34 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
23:58.38 | Shirik | well |
23:59.07 | Shirik | to be fair alestane, I sat there for a good 15 minutes trying to figure it out |
23:59.22 | Shirik | The bass part caught me off guard, it's what I was focusing on |