| 00:03.57 | Guillotin1 | Once again, life imitates XKCD. I ordered my new watch, and... http://xkcd.com/281/ |
| 00:06.22 | Malgayne | I'VE DONE THAT |
| 00:07.12 | alestane | It was the Megatokyo Miho blanket for me. |
| 00:07.26 | kd3 | lol |
| 00:07.26 | Guillotin1 | hey, Malgayne is here! |
| 00:07.31 | Malgayne | aWeSoMe |
| 00:07.36 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 00:07.51 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+v Guillotine] by ChanServ |
| 00:08.21 | Lunessa | Still in Memphis! |
| 00:08.57 | kd3 | WTF? |
| 00:09.07 | kd3 | "PS2 only. Not enough memory or resources on PlayStation 2 IOP ram." |
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| 00:11.00 | kd3 | ah, nvm. fmodex runs on the ps2/360 |
| 00:12.36 | Lunessa | Ugh. How many times do I have to tell someone - you can't send/recieve mail because you're over your storage limit - before they believe me? |
| 00:13.38 | Guillotine | You lie |
| 00:13.43 | Guillotine | there is no storage limit |
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| 00:14.47 | Lunessa | ~lart Guillotine |
| 00:14.47 | purl | urinates on Guillotine |
| 00:15.00 | Guillotine | that is a terrible lart |
| 00:15.02 | Lunessa | how strangely accurate for my mood. |
| 00:15.25 | Lunessa | Do not walk, RUN! |
| 00:19.15 | Guillotine | I'm afraid to startle you |
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| 00:25.02 | wereHamster | seedless grapes? how's that? |
| 00:25.21 | wereHamster | http://xkcd.com/388/ |
| 00:25.36 | [dRaCo] | never heard of seedless grapes? o0 |
| 00:26.15 | wereHamster | no, I only ever get to ead seeded grapes :-/ maybe I just live in the wrong place |
| 00:26.44 | widger|work | Seedless grapes are godless monsters |
| 00:26.53 | [dRaCo] | seedless grapes rock! |
| 00:27.24 | widger|work | Nobody said godless monsters couldn't rock. I'm sure most of them are quite musically gifted. |
| 00:27.58 | Esamynn|Work | and what leads you to that conclusion? |
| 00:28.29 | wereHamster | are they genetically modified or how come they have no seeds? |
| 00:29.07 | widger|work | Esamynn|Work: I give them the benefit of the doubt. |
| 00:29.31 | Tuller | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seedless_grapes#Seedless_grapes |
| 00:29.34 | |pez| | seedless grapes are awesome |
| 00:29.36 | [dRaCo] | well, they are modified, yeah... dunno if genetically, but I'd guess so |
| 00:31.54 | Esamynn|Work | widger|work: and the benefit of the doubt includes concluding that "most of them are quite musically gifted" huh? interesting... |
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| 00:35.12 | widger|work | My doubt comes with a wide range of benefits including a 401k and three weeks paid vacation. |
| 00:35.25 | break19 | wait wait.. watermelons are difficult?? |
| 00:35.53 | break19 | just cut the sucker into 4 peices and go to town.. pretty easy if ya ask me. |
| 00:36.00 | break19 | s/peices/pieces/ |
| 00:36.31 | break19 | but then, the town I grew up in.. has an annual Watermelon Festival. :) |
| 00:36.40 | break19 | so I guess I'm kinda biased towards em |
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| 00:54.25 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 00:54.26 | Cairenn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4822426907&sid=1 |
| 00:54.52 | Lunessa | keylogger |
| 00:57.00 | Cairenn | yeah, that's what I was laughing at |
| 00:58.26 | alestane | I like Isaymoo's response. |
| 00:58.51 | Kaso | Earthquake in england ^_- |
| 00:59.00 | Cairenn | no fun |
| 00:59.44 | Legorol | Kaso: :O where are you, i just felt it |
| 00:59.47 | Legorol | well, a minute ago |
| 00:59.54 | Legorol | I'm sitting in Cambridge |
| 01:00.09 | Legorol | I have not heard of an earthquake here before |
| 01:00.21 | Kaso | I am in lancaster, my friends in Manchester and leicester felt it too |
| 01:00.37 | Legorol | that's a pretty big one then :O |
| 01:00.50 | Cairenn | sounds like it's being felt over a rather large area, must have been rather significant |
| 01:00.55 | Legorol | wonder where the epicenter is |
| 01:01.02 | Corrodias | epicenter |
| 01:01.04 | Corrodias | EPICENTER |
| 01:01.14 | Legorol | s/enter/entre/ |
| 01:01.15 | Kaso | to me it was just a distinctive but low wobbling |
| 01:01.16 | Lunessa | Our highly trained, dedicated, and expensively equipped Earthquake Response teams are being air-lifted from Souther California to you right now. |
| 01:01.17 | Corrodias | epic ENTER <presses enter key with a fourish> |
| 01:01.23 | Legorol | Kaso: same here |
| 01:01.26 | Cairenn | lol |
| 01:01.45 | Legorol | Lunessa: thanks god! |
| 01:02.30 | Legorol | hm nothing on bbc website about the quake |
| 01:02.40 | Lunessa | When they arrive, they'll set up fabulously clever-looking scientific gear, take measurements, reassure you that there is nothing to be done, and bill the Crown for a large sum. |
| 01:02.57 | Kaso | http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2783475 |
| 01:04.09 | Legorol | oh, it's up now |
| 01:04.24 | Legorol | Lunessa: the Crown is poor, so there is no point |
| 01:04.31 | Legorol | they should bill J K Rowling |
| 01:04.37 | Lunessa | It's ok. They still owe us from WWII |
| 01:05.08 | Legorol | LOL this is funny |
| 01:05.38 | Legorol | I looked at the "most popular stories now", and seeing "Earthquake shakes parts of Kent" in number 1 spot, i figured that must be it |
| 01:05.49 | Legorol | but the article is actually dated 28 April 2007 |
| 01:05.59 | Legorol | I guess a lot of people searched for "earthquake" and hit that one :D |
| 01:06.07 | Kirkburn | I didn't feel it in Bristol! |
| 01:06.27 | Legorol | now you feel it too |
| 01:06.27 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 01:07.04 | Legorol | Kaso: that one's also dated 12 Aug 2007 |
| 01:07.09 | Legorol | search engines ftw |
| 01:07.53 | Kaso | What? which one? |
| 01:08.01 | Kaso | the SA thread i linked was 5min old |
| 01:08.54 | Legorol | uhm... are you sure? |
| 01:09.14 | Legorol | ow |
| 01:09.23 | Cairenn | the one I'm looking at (from that same link) is posted today, yes |
| 01:09.25 | Legorol | i confused the date the poster joined witht the date of the post |
| 01:13.05 | Legorol | BBC is quick. They got a story about the quake up already. |
| 01:13.07 | Legorol | good going |
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| 01:14.20 | Kirkburn | Legorol, where? |
| 01:14.43 | Kirkburn | Looking, not seeing |
| 01:15.42 | Legorol | www.bbc.co.uk/news |
| 01:15.50 | Kirkburn | Ah, the ticker |
| 01:15.54 | Legorol | the tickertape at the top sometimes comes up with |
| 01:15.55 | Legorol | yeah |
| 01:16.12 | Kirkburn | I'm turning on News 24 :P |
| 01:16.18 | Legorol | i already have |
| 01:16.21 | Legorol | nothing on yet |
| 01:16.40 | Legorol | they were going on about that island with the abused children |
| 01:16.47 | Kirkburn | My civil engineering housemate immediately worries about dams :P |
| 01:16.54 | Legorol | lol |
| 01:17.03 | Lunessa | This... is me: http://xkcd.com/335/ |
| 01:18.21 | Legorol | rofl |
| 01:18.31 | Legorol | i always wondered what other couples do with their lower arms... |
| 01:18.42 | Legorol | it must be one of those Great Unspoken Yet Most Common problems |
| 01:19.19 | Atriace | Need help: http://wowi.pastey.net/82993 |
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| 01:19.26 | Kirkburn | Legorol, lol, one of the old earthquake news stories is now in the "most read" section |
| 01:19.39 | Cairenn | congratulations Bela & wife, and welcome to the world Aidan Michael! http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=84188#post84188 |
| 01:19.46 | Legorol | kirkburn, you are 14 minutes late |
| 01:19.57 | Legorol | scroll up :) |
| 01:20.04 | Kirkburn | oh, wow |
| 01:20.06 | Legorol | oooh grats! |
| 01:20.08 | Kirkburn | That was amazingly quick |
| 01:20.26 | Kirkburn | ooh, yay! |
| 01:20.39 | Kirkburn | Aidan rocked our world :P |
| 01:20.44 | Legorol | yup, within 5 minutes of the quake that article is most read |
| 01:20.51 | Kaso | http://www.gfz-potsdam.de/geofon/seismon/globmon.html |
| 01:20.56 | Kaso | 5.0 magnitude |
| 01:20.57 | Kirkburn | Legorol, the internet is a great place :D |
| 01:21.05 | Guillotine | EPIC ENTER? |
| 01:21.07 | Kaso | Google map: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=0.30W+53.46N&ie=UTF8&ll=53.376775,0.131836&spn=4.988404,10.283203&t=h&z=7&iwloc=addr |
| 01:21.42 | Legorol | i love da interwebz 2 |
| 01:22.20 | Legorol | hm, 5.0 is pretty big for the UK |
| 01:23.14 | Legorol | no wonder i felt it this far too |
| 01:23.30 | Kaso | http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Quakes/us2008nyae.php |
| 01:23.32 | Kaso | more info |
| 01:23.52 | kd3 | a 4.7? in england? wow |
| 01:24.30 | Kirkburn | Kaso, http://www.gfz-potsdam.de/geofon/seismon/globmon.html has gone down >_< |
| 01:24.44 | Kaso | hah, quake-rushed! |
| 01:25.03 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 01:25.52 | Legorol | i could just about reach it |
| 01:26.11 | Legorol | check this out: |
| 01:26.12 | Legorol | http://www.gfz-potsdam.de/geofon/alerts/gfz2008eadu/phases.txt |
| 01:26.18 | Legorol | list of detectors that felt it |
| 01:26.26 | Kirkburn | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7266136.stm <-- here's the news report location |
| 01:26.31 | Legorol | if i'm not mistaken, goes as far as japan |
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| 01:27.22 | Kirkburn | "The BBC has received calls" <-- that makes me lol ... all they needed to do was look at the internet |
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| 01:27.45 | Kirkburn | Monitor a couple of big forums and you're set |
| 01:28.05 | Legorol | well something had to alert them.. and thousands of incoming phonecalls are just as good ;-) |
| 01:28.15 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 01:28.29 | kd3 | the wow-europe forums buzzing about it? |
| 01:28.37 | Legorol | don't know, good point! |
| 01:28.39 | Legorol | i better go post |
| 01:28.51 | Legorol | hurray for random, exciting offtopic stuff :) |
| 01:28.59 | Legorol | lol, already two page thread about it |
| 01:29.09 | kd3 | heh |
| 01:29.20 | Legorol | LOL one poster says: |
| 01:29.31 | Legorol | "Congrats, the wow forums were faster to officially confirm the quake than the BBC site" |
| 01:32.06 | Atriace | I'm trying to do an iterative hide of different frames based on a count, but I keep getting this error "attempt to call method 'Hide' (a nil value)" |
| 01:32.17 | Atriace | I'm assuming I'm defining my object name incorrectly. |
| 01:32.26 | Atriace | Any thoughts? http://wowi.pastey.net/82993 |
| 01:33.18 | Legorol | i dn't think textures have a :Hide() method, do they? |
| 01:33.25 | Atriace | They do. |
| 01:33.32 | Legorol | d'oh, i'm sleepy, nvm me |
| 01:33.33 | Legorol | ofc they do |
| 01:33.45 | kd3 | geez... the wind just refuses to let up today |
| 01:33.56 | Atriace | Fly a kite. ^_^ |
| 01:33.57 | Legorol | ah, i know |
| 01:34.04 | Legorol | Atriace: Mop is a string |
| 01:34.11 | Legorol | you are trying to call the method Hide on a string, not the frame |
| 01:34.38 | Atriace | I figured it might be something like that. So what, omit the quotes? or is there some sort of tovariable() like there is tostring()? |
| 01:34.39 | Legorol | you should do: (getglobal(Mop)):Hide() |
| 01:34.57 | Atriace | Alright. |
| 01:34.59 | Legorol | the parens might be unnecessary, not sure |
| 01:35.18 | MentalPower | it is |
| 01:35.37 | Atriace | That did it. |
| 01:36.11 | MentalPower | _G[Mop]:Hide() |
| 01:36.23 | MentalPower | ^^ Faster, Better, Stronger ^^ |
| 01:36.32 | MentalPower | :P |
| 01:36.50 | Atriace | in syntax or cpu time? |
| 01:37.00 | MentalPower | bot |
| 01:37.02 | MentalPower | both* |
| 01:37.14 | Legorol | syntax can't be faster and stronger :P |
| 01:37.17 | Legorol | maybe a bit better |
| 01:37.24 | MentalPower | faster to type |
| 01:37.33 | Legorol | MentalPower: are you sure the parens are unnecessary? |
| 01:37.34 | Atriace | faster to type, cleaner code... same diff |
| 01:37.44 | Legorol | afaik you need them... have to check |
| 01:37.51 | MentalPower | the stronger part is just comedic sugar |
| 01:38.03 | Atriace | Legorol: the seem to be unnecessary as it worked for me without them. |
| 01:38.04 | MentalPower | Legorol: nop, getglobal only returns one thing |
| 01:38.29 | MentalPower | Legorol: and even if it did return multiple, Lua would truncate to one return |
| 01:38.45 | Legorol | hm, i vaguely remember some case where the paren was needed |
| 01:38.46 | Legorol | oh well |
| 01:38.57 | Legorol | _G is better CPU wise |
| 01:39.16 | Kaso | "Grimsby here, south of Hull, East of Scunny, North of Lincoln. I was just nodding off to sleep when I heard a strange deep rumble, then for the next 5 to 10 seconds my house shook like fuck. Scared me out of sleep, I thought my house was falling down. Ran outside and met neighbours I never knew I had all wandering about in a daze wondering what the fuck." |
| 01:40.59 | Legorol | and if you want to get really kinky: getenv()[Mop]:Hide() |
| 01:41.24 | Legorol | rofl |
| 01:42.19 | dylanm | Maybe descend like _G._G._G a few times. |
| 01:42.49 | Kirkburn|sleep | Kaso, lol |
| 01:42.59 | Kirkburn|sleep | Dammit, this is so unfair :( |
| 01:43.28 | Atriace | Legorol: though getenv would return a string, if I'm not mistaken. |
| 01:44.23 | Legorol | no, getenv returns a table |
| 01:44.27 | Legorol | getenv() == _G |
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| 01:47.13 | dylanm | Wouldn't you have to do getfenv(0)? |
| 01:47.24 | Legorol | strictly speaking, yes |
| 01:47.37 | Legorol | but in practice, most functions don't have custom environments and just have the global one |
| 01:47.43 | dylanm | Right. |
| 01:48.09 | Legorol | getfenv() == getfenv(1), so you are right |
| 01:56.28 | Cairenn | rofl, I just completely flummoxed the DJ on the radio station I listen to |
| 01:57.11 | Cairenn | I had to go pick up my daughter just after you guys said about the earthquake, so I called in and told him, since he's British |
| 01:57.38 | Cairenn | and he's completely flabbergasted and it was "showing" in his voice |
| 01:58.04 | Legorol | lol |
| 02:07.48 | Legorol | gnight folks |
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| 02:16.21 | Atriace | Wow... I can't believe I've had DevTools all this time and never knew about its event logger. |
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| 02:18.43 | MentalPower | Anyone here have Garry's Mod (for Source)? I want to know if the sourcecode for it is included or not |
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| 02:33.23 | Atriace | Can you delete an object? |
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| 02:39.05 | kergoth | "object"? |
| 02:39.44 | Atriace | Yeah. A texture, frame... whatever. |
| 02:40.27 | kergoth | nope, frames & such cant be deleted after they're created |
| 02:40.33 | kergoth | so make a pool of them if need be |
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| 02:59.51 | Fin | yay: http://fin.instinct.org/mods/google/ |
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| 03:02.48 | MentalPower | Atriace: you see, there's this bowl of soup... |
| 03:03.07 | Atriace | 0_o |
| 03:03.16 | MentalPower | Fin: What is that? |
| 03:04.24 | MentalPower | Atriace: http://www.blue.cardplace.com/cache/wow-interface-customization/231117.htm |
| 03:04.29 | Atriace | wow (http://fin.instinct.org/mods/). Did you make that, Fin? |
| 03:04.58 | Fin | MentalPower: it's my Google Subscribed Links thingy |
| 03:05.04 | Fin | yes, Atriace :) |
| 03:05.07 | Fin | MentalPower: http://www.google.com/coop/sl |
| 03:05.11 | Atriace | Spiffy |
| 03:05.28 | Fin | thanks! |
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| 03:05.59 | Cairenn | MentalPower or Esamynn|Away : http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4914053760&sid=1 |
| 03:06.11 | dylanm | Haha I like his imagery. |
| 03:06.49 | Cairenn | heh, his soup analogy is (in)famous in the community now |
| 03:06.51 | MentalPower | Cairenn: thanks, I guess I'll just do the quick and dirty fix |
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| 03:07.20 | MentalPower | lol |
| 03:07.30 | MentalPower | WobWork has been k-lined twice now |
| 03:07.34 | Atriace | Just seems weird. You can reference the object. Would seem logical by the same method you could remove it. |
| 03:07.41 | Atriace | But I'll buy it. |
| 03:07.46 | Cairenn | poor Wobin :( |
| 03:07.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Logical? Yes |
| 03:07.54 | MentalPower | Atriace: how do you tell all the addons that the frame is gone? |
| 03:08.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Feasible when you can just do DisableAddon(); ReloadUI()? |
| 03:08.11 | Atriace | MentalPower: Make them suffer. Bwa ha ha ha! |
| 03:08.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Ehhh maybe not :) |
| 03:08.13 | MentalPower | Atriace: by the same token, how do you make sure no one is using it |
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| 03:09.10 | oreth | RARGS |
| 03:09.48 | dylanm | Huh |
| 03:11.23 | |pez| | Waahahaha! my frognorns had a baby! |
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| 03:18.44 | oreth | wb shirik |
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| 03:35.02 | Lunessa | Fie! A pox on raiders who /gquit with no explanation! |
| 03:35.22 | Duman | forums go boom |
| 03:36.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Looks like the stat stacking is partially fixed |
| 03:36.49 | ScytheBlade1 | I can't get it to go over and over and over |
| 03:36.59 | ScytheBlade1 | And it drops the increase upon zone |
| 03:37.04 | ScytheBlade1 | But... it stacks once! |
| 03:39.03 | oreth | *boggle* |
| 03:45.03 | |pez| | woo, my back is bleeding again ^^ |
| 03:46.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Er? |
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| 03:46.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Wait |
| 03:46.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Should I be askin? |
| 03:46.28 | ScytheBlade1 | *asking? |
| 03:46.30 | |Jelly| | !c us burning legion jelly |
| 03:46.32 | WoWLuaircBot | |Jelly|: Jelly, Level 70 Blood Elf Priest (43/18/0). 9131 HP; 10824 Mana; 210 mana regen; 95 mp5; 454 +spell dmg; 1152 +heal; 5.06% dodge; 236 resilience;[[ TBR: 476 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yrmc88 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mw2d7 ][ Updated: Tue Feb 26 22:56:03 2008 EST ]] |
| 03:46.51 | |Jelly| | !vs us burning legion jelly us drenden kimina |
| 03:48.24 | |Jelly| | :( |
| 03:50.10 | Atriace | Slow armory. |
| 03:50.54 | |Jelly| | !vs us burning legion jelly us drenden kimina |
| 03:50.56 | |Jelly| | !!! |
| 03:50.57 | WoWLuaircBot | |Jelly|: Jelly vs Kimina! Two 70 priests square off!; 43/18/0 vs 42/19/0; Kimina wins by 532 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 03:51.03 | |Jelly| | no fuckin way |
| 03:51.06 | oreth | hey guys |
| 03:51.09 | oreth | question for you |
| 03:51.13 | ScytheBlade1 | |Jelly|: owned |
| 03:51.13 | oreth | http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/snapshot/snapshot.asp?symbol=ARTD.OB&submit.x=0&submit.y=0 |
| 03:51.16 | oreth | click on 1 year ont he chart |
| 03:51.17 | ScytheBlade1 | |Jelly|: or, what the bot said |
| 03:51.22 | oreth | http://torrentfreak.com/mediadefender-parent-company-facing-liquidation-080226/ |
| 03:51.25 | oreth | now look at that |
| 03:51.40 | oreth | see a similarity? |
| 03:51.48 | |Jelly| | !co us burning legion jelly us drenden kimina |
| 03:52.50 | oreth | fuckin' torrentfreak stole my goddamn work >:( |
| 03:55.41 | *** join/#wowi-lounge eodchop (n=eodchop@mo-71-1-108-28.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) |
| 03:56.29 | |pez| | ScytheBlade1: I picked on one of my sores (used to be a zit) |
| 03:56.42 | oreth | i mean, shit... a caption that said "from BusinessWeek" would have been nice |
| 03:57.41 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:57.45 | Cidan | wut |
| 03:57.46 | eodchop | Can anyone recommend a good mod for finding coordinates. |
| 03:57.55 | Cidan | eodchop: coordinates of what? |
| 03:57.56 | Atriace | CT_MapMod |
| 03:57.56 | ScytheBlade1 | eodchop: cartographer? |
| 03:58.17 | eodchop | Locations in the game. Such as (12,29) |
| 03:58.22 | dylanm | TomTom |
| 03:58.57 | eodchop | What happens when a major patch comes out. Will the patch break the add-on or vice versa? |
| 03:59.07 | Cidan | uhm |
| 03:59.10 | Cidan | depends on the patch and the mod |
| 03:59.15 | Cidan | maybe, maybe not |
| 03:59.33 | ScytheBlade1 | "maybe, maybe not" <-- most accurate thing I've heard on the matter, ever |
| 04:00.03 | MentalPower | eodchop: I don't think an addon will break the patch :P |
| 04:00.23 | eodchop | Well I meant brick the game |
| 04:00.27 | eodchop | =) |
| 04:00.33 | ScytheBlade1 | When a major patch is released |
| 04:00.37 | ScytheBlade1 | You update your addosn |
| 04:00.40 | ScytheBlade1 | *addons |
| 04:00.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Problem solved |
| 04:01.03 | eodchop | Havent installed one yet. That is why i am playing 20 questions. |
| 04:01.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, now you know. :)P |
| 04:01.13 | ScytheBlade1 | * :) |
| 04:01.31 | eodchop | not a lot of good intros to WOW Add-ons to be found. If they are out there, google lied again. |
| 04:01.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Might do you some good to read the FAQs |
| 04:01.39 | ScytheBlade1 | google lied |
| 04:01.59 | ScytheBlade1 | ... and the WoW forums are down for maint |
| 04:02.26 | Cidan | no addon will brick your game |
| 04:02.26 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/faq.php |
| 04:02.32 | Cidan | nor will it do any perm damage |
| 04:02.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Cidan: wrong and you know it ;P |
| 04:02.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Well concerning bricking the game |
| 04:02.44 | eodchop | Thx for the nfo. |
| 04:02.45 | Cidan | SHH |
| 04:02.47 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 04:02.48 | Cidan | Well it can't BRICK it |
| 04:02.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Fair enough |
| 04:03.02 | Cidan | worst case you delete the wtf folder |
| 04:03.07 | Antiarc | UIParent = nil |
| 04:03.10 | Antiarc | Sup. |
| 04:03.12 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 04:03.13 | Cidan | that's not bricking |
| 04:03.18 | Cidan | you can just disable the addon |
| 04:03.27 | Cidan | I mean brick as in, destroy the install or whatever |
| 04:03.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: I hate you so much now |
| 04:03.29 | Cidan | aehasdhsd |
| 04:03.34 | Antiarc | ScytheBlade1: You did it, didn't you? |
| 04:03.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: yes |
| 04:03.50 | Antiarc | rofl |
| 04:04.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Surprisingly |
| 04:04.21 | ScytheBlade1 | It only broke tooltips so far |
| 04:04.31 | Atriace | What does TBR mean? |
| 04:04.35 | ScytheBlade1 | I can still cast, target, etc |
| 04:04.41 | Antiarc | To be released, perhaps? |
| 04:04.46 | ScytheBlade1 | No |
| 04:04.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Thrae Bot Rating |
| 04:04.59 | Atriace | Ah. |
| 04:05.02 | Antiarc | Try WorldFrame = UIFrame |
| 04:05.04 | Antiarc | Err |
| 04:05.06 | Antiarc | UIParent |
| 04:05.09 | Antiarc | See what that does |
| 04:05.17 | ScytheBlade1 | That could be fun |
| 04:05.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Sec as I reload |
| 04:06.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: no noticeable changes |
| 04:07.18 | Cidan | You know what's awesome? |
| 04:07.27 | Antiarc | Fried chicken? |
| 04:07.41 | Cidan | When you fuck up a bit of code, make an invisible input box, then can't type /rl or anything really |
| 04:07.45 | Cidan | and you have to end task wow |
| 04:07.49 | Antiarc | Hahah |
| 04:07.49 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 04:07.52 | Antiarc | See |
| 04:07.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Smooooooth |
| 04:08.08 | Antiarc | This is why you keep a reload macro on your hotbar when developing UI stuff |
| 04:08.24 | Cidan | ya, making one now |
| 04:08.24 | Cidan | :/ |
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| 04:08.29 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 04:08.41 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Kandoko (n=Testing@adsl-068-159-119-207.sip.gsp.bellsouth.net) |
| 04:08.54 | fromatz | i can do _, _, temp = foo() right? |
| 04:09.01 | Antiarc | Yup |
| 04:09.02 | fromatz | and it wont store anything in the _'s? |
| 04:09.07 | fromatz | phew, thats good to know |
| 04:09.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup. |
| 04:09.14 | Antiarc | Well, it will, won't it? |
| 04:09.18 | Antiarc | _ is still a variable |
| 04:09.25 | ScytheBlade1 | No |
| 04:09.31 | Antiarc | Ooh, it's a special one? |
| 04:09.34 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:09.37 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:09.37 | Cidan | You know what's even more awesome? |
| 04:09.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Er huh |
| 04:09.48 | ScytheBlade1 | I lied |
| 04:09.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Weird, that's changed |
| 04:09.53 | Cidan | when you forget to comment out the broken code and start WoW up again |
| 04:09.58 | Cidan | and you have to end task it again |
| 04:10.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Cidan: pro |
| 04:10.10 | Antiarc | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:10.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, I remember it doing something else some time ago |
| 04:10.42 | MentalPower | ScytheBlade1: thats always been like that |
| 04:10.50 | Antiarc | It's a variable, just commonly accepted as a throwaway variable |
| 04:12.48 | fromatz | ok so it's still a variable, but i can still name all my throwaway variables _ |
| 04:12.52 | fromatz | and it will accept that? |
| 04:13.08 | fromatz | yeah i guess it would actually |
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| 04:13.53 | oreth | TorrentFreak stole my graph. |
| 04:13.59 | WobWork | yay hax |
| 04:14.01 | oreth | the question is... should I be upset about it? |
| 04:14.12 | oreth | I read torrentfreak, because i'm a pirate |
| 04:14.13 | WobWork | <3 you lot =) |
| 04:14.20 | oreth | and i'm slightly peeved at them stealing my work. |
| 04:14.25 | oreth | I think that goes against the pirate code. |
| 04:14.37 | oreth | s/code/guidelines/ |
| 04:14.47 | oreth | thank you, purl |
| 04:14.55 | WobWork | bah |
| 04:15.04 | fromatz | love the potc reference |
| 04:15.08 | WobWork | pirate guidelines are as follows: If it aint nailed down, then YARRRR |
| 04:15.20 | fromatz | -barbosa |
| 04:15.30 | WobWork | not double s? |
| 04:15.37 | fromatz | hmmm, not sure |
| 04:15.57 | fromatz | it is 2 |
| 04:16.13 | WobWork | ~barbossa |
| 04:16.14 | Antiarc | ScytheBlade1: The stacking bug isn't gone. You can still stack all you want. |
| 04:17.24 | fromatz | someone needs to make a video 1 shotting illidan |
| 04:17.34 | fromatz | instagib ftw |
| 04:17.40 | Antiarc | You can't zone and keep the stats :P |
| 04:17.47 | fromatz | oh =\ thats not fun |
| 04:17.59 | fromatz | i guess you could easily kite mobs into orgrimmar =] |
| 04:18.01 | WobWork | Next up, engineer 'bank window' trinkets |
| 04:18.03 | dylanm | Start dueling |
| 04:18.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: I could only get it to stack once |
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| 04:18.42 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o Iriel] by ChanServ |
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| 04:19.00 | fromatz | i would love to go smackdown lord kazzak |
| 04:19.09 | fromatz | hate him and doomwalker |
| 04:19.16 | Iriel | evening |
| 04:20.03 | Cairenn | hey Iriel :) |
| 04:20.27 | |pez| | damnit, boney grendels, breed! >__> |
| 04:20.35 | WobWork | I did Kazzak once |
| 04:20.50 | fromatz | the new version of him? |
| 04:20.54 | WobWork | it was like *whackwhackwhackwhackwha...oh.. is that it?" |
| 04:20.56 | WobWork | yeah |
| 04:21.02 | WobWork | we got him down in.. 47 seconds = |
| 04:21.03 | WobWork | \ |
| 04:21.05 | fromatz | yeah if one person dies, you are boned |
| 04:21.32 | oreth | Antiarc: have you seen this? http://web.telia.com/~u43518104/articles/fizzbuzz.htm |
| 04:21.46 | oreth | completely useless, but utterly wicked in design |
| 04:22.10 | Antiarc | Heh, just did a bit ago |
| 04:22.28 | oreth | Westmarch just linked it to me. |
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| 04:23.48 | Cidan | does lua have a rounding function? |
| 04:24.13 | WobWork | what specifically do you need? |
| 04:24.18 | WobWork | Banker's rounding? |
| 04:24.21 | Cidan | just simple rounding |
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| 04:24.38 | WobWork | string.format("%.2f", 1.2345) |
| 04:24.39 | batrick | char *a[1] make a size 1 array of char pointers right? |
| 04:24.48 | Gngsk | <@ckknight> Yssaril: for simple asymmetric rounding, math.floor(x+0.5) works |
| 04:25.00 | Cidan | hm, okay |
| 04:25.24 | WobWork | Or if you're just dealing with integers you can use math.floor(x+0.5) |
| 04:25.37 | Cairenn | bela updated the thread on WoWI to include a link to baby pics: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15079 |
| 04:25.38 | ckknight | Cidan: I've used a custom-made banker's rounding algorithm |
| 04:25.45 | batrick | Shirik: ping |
| 04:25.54 | Cidan | Hm, you'd think they would put something simple in |
| 04:27.14 | ckknight | nope |
| 04:27.18 | Iriel | They did, math.floor and math.ceil |
| 04:27.47 | WobWork | simple enough =) |
| 04:39.47 | Shirik | batrick: pong |
| 04:40.05 | Shirik | I needed you earlier actually :( But I figured it out |
| 04:40.47 | Shirik | Damn relay sending a -40V spike through my components |
| 04:41.36 | Fisker- | I'm gonna hunt you down like a chicken kd3 |
| 04:44.50 | Atriace | You know, chickens will keep running even without a head. |
| 04:44.55 | Atriace | Useless fact. |
| 04:45.15 | kd3 | thanks for the ping. woo for the realms being up. |
| 04:45.44 | Atriace | Is there anyway to redefine something that is a virtual? |
| 04:46.22 | Atriace | Like... oh I don't know... a texture? |
| 04:48.26 | MentalPower | redefine? |
| 04:48.30 | MentalPower | and no is your answer |
| 04:49.51 | Atriace | I wanted to replace the texture file for a virtual element (such as the default button). |
| 04:50.19 | Atriace | But I guess I'll need to find a different method. |
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| 04:51.20 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 04:52.06 | MentalPower | Atriace: for all buttons or just your own? |
| 04:53.43 | Fisker- | i hate you kd3 |
| 04:53.50 | Fisker- | come with me if you don't want to live |
| 04:54.06 | WobWork | The Fiskinator? |
| 04:54.15 | Atriace | MentalPower: for all buttons. I wanted to reskin the default UI. |
| 04:54.29 | Fisker- | moar like teh failinator |
| 04:54.40 | MentalPower | Atriace: override the texture file |
| 04:54.45 | Fisker- | still have to make 4 pages for today |
| 04:54.48 | MentalPower | its the easiest way |
| 04:54.58 | Fisker- | god i hate pointless assignments |
| 04:55.08 | Atriace | I haven't heard of that before. How would you do that? |
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| 04:59.31 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+v Guillotine] by ChanServ |
| 04:59.45 | MentalPower | well, ifyou would usually invoke the texture with :SetTexture("Texture\\MailBox\\FooBar123") then you would place the new texture in the World of Warcraft\\Texture\\MailBox\\FooBar123 folder |
| 05:00.03 | MentalPower | restart WoW, and you should see your new texture everywhere the old one was |
| 05:01.05 | Atriace | Ugh... not very elegent (or distributable) method for an addon. |
| 05:01.17 | WobWork | not particularly no |
| 05:01.29 | MentalPower | it is the easiest tho |
| 05:01.40 | MentalPower | and its been used before with success (look at clearfont) |
| 05:01.55 | Shirik | I think I'm off to bed |
| 05:01.59 | Shirik | 3 days no sleep ftl |
| 05:02.07 | Atriace | wow. G'night Shirik. :) |
| 05:02.15 | widgertick | G'night Shirik! |
| 05:02.19 | widgertick | Sleep tight =) |
| 05:02.54 | Atriace | Any ideas on a self-contained method (all textures residing inside the addon folder)? |
| 05:03.03 | MentalPower | Atriace: I think that you can also change the texture of the parent texture object, and that change will propagate downwards, but I've never tried that myself |
| 05:03.58 | WobWork | >< MP, since I saw your photo, you -vaugely- reminded me of an American I met in Beijing. |
| 05:04.09 | WobWork | and now I can't not think of anything you say being spoken in his voice. |
| 05:04.23 | MentalPower | lol |
| 05:04.35 | MentalPower | if it helps any, I've never been to china |
| 05:04.48 | MentalPower | so you saw my blizzcon photo? |
| 05:05.11 | WobWork | no, the entirely misleading ones with Antiarc |
| 05:05.27 | WobWork | cause any photo with Antiarc leads to misleading concepts of scale |
| 05:06.07 | MentalPower | lol!!! |
| 05:06.57 | MentalPower | I wonder who's taller, Antiarc, Iriel or Cladhaire |
| 05:10.34 | Antiarc | Hahah |
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| 05:12.24 | Cairenn | oh, hey! it's a WobWork! |
| 05:12.35 | batrick | Shirik|zZz: ? char *a[1] make a size 1 array of char pointers right? |
| 05:12.52 | WobWork | Cairenn: ^^ |
| 05:12.57 | Shirik|zZz | that is an affirmative good sir |
| 05:13.00 | WobWork | It's a Wob@IRC@Work |
| 05:13.06 | Cairenn | that works :) |
| 05:13.33 | Cairenn | aren't you glad we missed you and talked to each other and came up with suggestions? |
| 05:13.33 | Shirik|zZz | wait batrick |
| 05:13.35 | Shirik|zZz | I might be wrong |
| 05:13.48 | Shirik|zZz | let me double check operator precedence |
| 05:14.04 | Shirik|zZz | It might be a pointer to an array of characters |
| 05:14.05 | WobWork | char* a[1]? |
| 05:14.39 | *** part/#wowi-lounge MySpoons2Big (n=eternall@pool-71-251-158-4.hrbgpa.fios.verizon.net) |
| 05:15.24 | Guillotine | wait, what picture with Antiarc? |
| 05:15.25 | Shirik|zZz | yeah no, I was right |
| 05:15.29 | Shirik|zZz | it's an array of char pointers |
| 05:15.37 | Shirik|zZz | why, what's up batrick? |
| 05:16.25 | Shirik|zZz | imho you're better off with a char** |
| 05:19.04 | Shirik|zZz | wtf happened to icanhascheezburger.com |
| 05:19.10 | Shirik|zZz | it seems to have seriously gone downhil |
| 05:19.22 | Shirik|zZz | half the stuff on the frontpage isn't even lolcatish |
| 05:19.24 | WobWork | It was uphill at any point/ |
| 05:19.37 | WobWork | perhaps we're reaching critical mass |
| 05:20.31 | widgertick | I think what we're seeing is the incorporation of the lolcat into more facets of internet culture. |
| 05:20.55 | widgertick | icanhascheezburger.com is changing to reflect that most of its visitors and pictures are coming from outside the niche that created it |
| 05:21.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik|zZz: GO TO SLEEP |
| 05:21.55 | Shirik|zZz | but batrick asked a question |
| 05:22.02 | Cairenn | Shirik|zZz: go to sleep |
| 05:22.05 | Shirik|zZz | but batrick asked a question |
| 05:22.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik|zZz: http://xkcd.com/386/ |
| 05:22.19 | ScytheBlade1 | You could be at this for a _long_ time. |
| 05:22.21 | ScytheBlade1 | SLEEP. |
| 05:22.24 | widgertick | Shirik|zZz: go TO sleep |
| 05:22.32 | Shirik|zZz | oh! |
| 05:22.34 | Cairenn | ScytheBlade1: ROFL |
| 05:22.35 | Shirik|zZz | New xkcd today |
| 05:22.35 | Shirik|zZz | yey |
| 05:22.37 | MentalPower | Shirik|zZz: go to sleep!! |
| 05:22.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: you know that's awesome |
| 05:22.44 | Shirik|zZz | you know what |
| 05:22.46 | WobWork | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/02/21/funny-pictures-u-haz-an-itty-bitty-flavur/ |
| 05:22.50 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+m] by Shirik|zZz |
| 05:22.52 | Shirik|zZz | There |
| 05:22.56 | Shirik|zZz | now none of you can tell me to go to sleep |
| 05:22.57 | Cairenn | ScytheBlade1: it completely rocks |
| 05:23.03 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [-o Shirik|zZz] by widgertick |
| 05:23.05 | MentalPower | Shirik|zZz: you sure? |
| 05:23.07 | Cairenn | Shirik|zZz: that's what you think |
| 05:23.11 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o Shirik|zZz] by ChanServ |
| 05:23.11 | MentalPower | muahahahaha!!! |
| 05:23.11 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [-m] by widgertick |
| 05:23.19 | Shirik|zZz | :< |
| 05:23.23 | kd3 | bah, was about to /nick kd3|wtbvoice |
| 05:23.24 | ScytheBlade1 | THERE'S BUTTER ON MY FACE |
| 05:23.32 | widgertick | ._. |
| 05:23.39 | Shirik|zZz | .n. |
| 05:23.45 | ScytheBlade1 | (Points to anyone who gets the reference) |
| 05:24.03 | kd3 | whee bash |
| 05:24.08 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3 wins the points |
| 05:24.13 | ScytheBlade1 | The rest of you are slow |
| 05:24.16 | ScytheBlade1 | http://bash.org/?10739 |
| 05:25.22 | Shirik|zZz | I wonder what song that is in xkcd |
| 05:25.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik|zZz: you're not very obedient, are you? |
| 05:25.52 | Shirik|zZz | I only listen to whom I choose to listen to |
| 05:25.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Disagree |
| 05:26.05 | Shirik|zZz | Cairenn has no right to tell me to go to sleep, especially, considering she goes to sleep at 5AM every night herself |
| 05:26.13 | ScytheBlade1 | You selectively listen to those whom you choose to listen to |
| 05:26.15 | Cairenn | not every night |
| 05:26.22 | Shirik|zZz | yeah, sorry |
| 05:26.25 | Shirik|zZz | sometimes it's 6 |
| 05:26.33 | MentalPower | :P |
| 05:26.36 | Cairenn | besides which, I can ban you from the site & channel |
| 05:26.39 | Cairenn | go sleep |
| 05:26.58 | Cairenn | :) |
| 05:27.56 | Antiarc | Note: As per the previous conversation, I'm not actually tall. Those pictures you saw were misleading. MentalPower is actually 3'4" |
| 05:28.05 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 05:28.06 | Antiarc | And we were at Lego Land |
| 05:28.11 | MentalPower | ~lart Antiarc |
| 05:28.11 | purl | eats Antiarc's liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti |
| 05:28.20 | MentalPower | ~bzfrag Antiarc |
| 05:28.21 | purl | ACTION tries to kill Antiarc, but Antiarc finds the shield flag |
| 05:28.21 | widgertick | If MentalPower is 3'4", that makes me about four inches tall. |
| 05:28.32 | Antiarc | Dahaha. |
| 05:28.36 | MentalPower | ... |
| 05:28.41 | MentalPower | ~fail purl |
| 05:28.41 | purl | purl: Fail. |
| 05:29.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Man. a #wowi-lounge bzFlag competition could quite possibly be epic. |
| 05:29.17 | MentalPower | indeed |
| 05:29.17 | Shirik|zZz | ~bzfrag ScytheBlade1 |
| 05:29.18 | purl | ACTION destroys ScytheBlade1 with a guided missile |
| 05:29.31 | widgertick | ~bzfrag Shirik|zZz |
| 05:29.32 | purl | ACTION tries to kill Shirik|zZz, but Shirik|zZz finds the shield flag |
| 05:29.35 | WobWork | omg |
| 05:29.42 | WobWork | BEST XKCD EVER |
| 05:29.45 | widgertick | ~bzfrag Shirik|zZz |
| 05:29.46 | purl | ACTION destroys Shirik|zZz with a guided missile |
| 05:29.46 | Cairenn | Shirik|zZz: SLEEP |
| 05:29.54 | Shirik|zZz | it's ok ScytheBlade1, you can only do it 5 times |
| 05:29.56 | Shirik|zZz | muahaha |
| 05:30.01 | Shirik|zZz | <-- victorious |
| 05:30.01 | ScytheBlade1 | * 10 additional IPs |
| 05:30.10 | Shirik|zZz | I'll just set the failure count to 1 |
| 05:30.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Less the automated removal of the bans |
| 05:30.12 | WobWork | Shirik|zZz: Did you get the song? =) |
| 05:30.18 | Shirik|zZz | and the automated removal to 2 days |
| 05:30.27 | Shirik|zZz | WobWork: Song? |
| 05:30.30 | Shirik|zZz | oh |
| 05:30.33 | Shirik|zZz | no I didn't :( |
| 05:30.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik|zZz: hope you don't mistype your password! |
| 05:30.36 | WobWork | http://forums.xkcd.com/download/file.php?id=2717 |
| 05:30.47 | WobWork | Best meta-in-joke -ever- |
| 05:31.07 | Shirik|zZz | I knew it was going to be something |
| 05:31.10 | Shirik|zZz | I was trying to figure it out |
| 05:31.17 | Shirik|zZz | But I'm way too tired to put that together right now |
| 05:31.20 | Shirik|zZz | now it all makes sense :) |
| 05:31.46 | Shirik|zZz | I was too caught up on the bass part |
| 05:31.56 | WobWork | yeah, same =) |
| 05:32.14 | WobWork | but that's cause I'm a bass =P |
| 05:32.26 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl @ song |
| 05:32.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Holy crap that guy is EPIC |
| 05:32.40 | WobWork | inorite? =) |
| 05:32.51 | Shirik|zZz | WobWork: I played cello :) |
| 05:33.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik|zZz: have you honestly not slept in three days? |
| 05:34.04 | kd3 | gah... they /still/ haven't fixed the combat log? |
| 05:34.10 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: or the stat stacking! |
| 05:34.23 | Sixen | Sheesh... |
| 05:34.24 | Shirik|zZz | Apparently the alt text is wrong. A friend tells me "the best way is if they hesitate when walking because they realize their step isn't on the beat." |
| 05:34.27 | Shirik|zZz | ^^ that's me |
| 05:34.27 | Sixen | Stat hacking still works? |
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| 05:35.21 | WobWork | yes |
| 05:35.41 | Sixen | Please run me a tracert. To run a tracert, follow the steps below: |
| 05:35.41 | Sixen | 1) Go to Start > Run |
| 05:35.41 | Sixen | 2) Type in "command" or "cmd" depending on your OS. |
| 05:35.41 | Sixen | 3) Make sure the directory you are in is your desktop. You can change directories using the "cd" command. |
| 05:35.41 | Sixen | 4) Type in "tracert *[i]realm[/i].battle.net > hi.txt". |
| 05:35.43 | Sixen | 5) You let the tracert run, and there should be a new .txt file on your desktop. (30 is the last run) |
| 05:35.45 | Sixen | 6) Post the contents of "hi.txt" in a reply. |
| 05:35.47 | Sixen | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:35.49 | Sixen | *: Change this with your realm. For example, useast.battle.net. |
| 05:35.51 | Sixen | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:35.53 | Sixen | (If you use a Mac, please let me know and I will tell you how to specifically run it on a Mac) |
| 05:35.57 | Sixen | Er |
| 05:35.59 | Sixen | :(. Wrong C&P. |
| 05:36.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Sixen: pro. |
| 05:36.14 | Shirik|zZz | Yeah I'm going to sleep for a few hours |
| 05:36.17 | Shirik|zZz | be back in 5 or so |
| 05:36.20 | Sixen | I forgot we can't copy out of the Blizz Updater window, :( |
| 05:36.22 | ScytheBlade1 | ... lol |
| 05:36.24 | Sixen | Bye Shirik. |
| 05:37.02 | Cairenn | night Shirik|zZz :) |
| 05:37.13 | Sixen | kd3, can you reinvite me to the guild in a sec? |
| 05:37.21 | kd3 | sure |
| 05:37.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Sixen: and I can bump you back up to officer |
| 05:37.37 | WobWork | ScytheBlade1: =( |
| 05:37.39 | Sixen | =] |
| 05:38.03 | ScytheBlade1 | WobWork: yeah, I did something awesome to my neck today. Not sure what. |
| 05:39.11 | MentalPower | gnight all |
| 05:39.25 | Cairenn | night MentalPower|ZZzz |
| 05:39.46 | MentalPower|ZZzz | night |
| 05:39.54 | MentalPower|ZZzz | friggin migraines |
| 05:39.59 | ScytheBlade1 | night |
| 05:40.22 | Cairenn | :( |
| 05:40.24 | WobWork | PS |
| 05:40.26 | WobWork | This is cool: http://www.wildaboutmusic.com/worldbeatmusic.html |
| 05:40.41 | Cairenn | definite sympathy on that one MentalPower|ZZzz |
| 05:41.14 | Cairenn | brb, rebooting my system |
| 05:41.15 | MentalPower|ZZzz | :) |
| 05:42.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, anyone US PvE Alliance side on the test realm |
| 05:43.01 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:43.04 | ScytheBlade1 | And I can get you invited |
| 05:46.31 | Guillotine | ooo, one moment |
| 05:48.32 | Guillotine | grr, update |
| 05:48.44 | Sixen | :P |
| 05:48.55 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:48.58 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 05:49.04 | Guillotine | downloading it only takes a moment |
| 05:49.18 | Guillotine | its reconfiguring my firewall to allow the patch download, then reconfiguring it to allow the updated client that takes a while |
| 05:49.23 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 05:49.32 | Guillotine | Norton sucks |
| 05:49.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Fair enough |
| 05:49.37 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 05:49.39 | ScytheBlade1 | It does indeed |
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| 05:55.44 | kd3 | lmao |
| 05:59.43 | Atriace | If you define a virtual object with the same name as a pre-existing virtual object, does that replace the prior or does the new one get ignored? |
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| 06:10.53 | Iriel | Atriace: the first sticks, unless the first was not secure, and the new one is |
| 06:10.59 | kd3 | Sixen, no. just you |
| 06:11.00 | Iriel | In which case the secure one will override the other one |
| 06:14.21 | Sixen | =(. |
| 06:15.19 | Guillotine | err, are icons in chat not implemented on the test realm yet? |
| 06:15.30 | Guillotine | copy and pasting the exact example given on the forums gives an error :/ |
| 06:15.55 | kd3 | they were last build |
| 06:16.26 | Guillotine | want to copy and paste this and see if it works for you? |
| 06:16.32 | Guillotine | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:16.52 | Tem|AFK | Guillotine, they're in |
| 06:17.02 | Tem|AFK | I haven't tried since the last patch, but I've used them |
| 06:17.25 | Guillotine | well, stuff like {star} works |
| 06:17.36 | Guillotine | but stuff like adding in the PW:F doesn't seem to work |
| 06:18.30 | Tem|AFK | Guillotine, try smaller |
| 06:18.42 | Tem|AFK | 64px may be too large |
| 06:18.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Sixen: you know, watching you |
| 06:18.57 | ScytheBlade1 | I can't help but laugh hysterically |
| 06:18.59 | Sixen | :( |
| 06:19.00 | ScytheBlade1 | No offense, but wow |
| 06:19.01 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl |
| 06:19.05 | ScytheBlade1 | That's broken |
| 06:19.10 | kd3 | nah. it's supposed to work if we only add it to the frame... dunno why it isn't |
| 06:19.17 | Maul | In Zoot's post: Currently there are only texture tags for raid icons. We may add more texture tags in the future. |
| 06:19.29 | Guillotine | its giving an error about an unfinished string |
| 06:19.42 | Guillotine | But what about http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968233433&postId=44930053081&sid=1#293 ? |
| 06:19.48 | Guillotine | you should be able to add it directly to your chat frame |
| 06:19.57 | Atriace | Iriel: is it worth trying to replace the default UI textures, or should I give up unless I plan to recreate the frames from scratch? |
| 06:20.13 | Maul | I dunno, did not play with them yet :) I just remember Zoot's comment about the raid icons :) |
| 06:20.25 | Guillotine | Maul: from what I see, thats just for sending through chat, not for posting directly to your chat frame |
| 06:20.33 | kd3 | we can only send raid icons to other players... supposed to be able to do whatever the hell you want to local frames |
| 06:20.43 | Iriel | Atriace: It depends on how you plan to do it.. I suspect you'll have an easier time zipping over all of the frames doing replacements at runtime than by fiddling with templates |
| 06:20.57 | Iriel | Guillotine/kd3 are correct |
| 06:21.07 | Iriel | You can do whatever you want locally |
| 06:21.12 | Guillotine | but it doesn't work |
| 06:21.17 | Guillotine | at least not the way Zoot posted |
| 06:21.20 | Iriel | the {star} things are turned into |T things locally by the chat frame |
| 06:21.23 | kd3 | zoot just /y in shattrath or something? |
| 06:21.34 | Iriel | (That is, by the blizzard chat frame lua) |
| 06:21.41 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: yes |
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| 06:23.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Awesome. I was just called a "terrorist" by Zoot. |
| 06:23.36 | Guillotine | lol |
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| 06:25.06 | Tem|AFK | Guillotine, I use the icons all the time |
| 06:25.12 | Tem|AFK | I wrote an addon for adding item icons |
| 06:26.12 | Guillotine | strange |
| 06:26.18 | Guillotine | any chance I could get a look at the AddOn? |
| 06:27.16 | Tem|AFK | yeah sure gimme a sec |
| 06:28.05 | batrick | Shirik|zZz: thanks |
| 06:28.10 | batrick | brb |
| 06:28.40 | Sixen | Uh |
| 06:28.42 | Sixen | Did I just dc? |
| 06:28.51 | Esamynn | no |
| 06:29.01 | Sixen | I clicked the MOTD and it froze, =o. |
| 06:29.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Bah |
| 06:29.18 | ScytheBlade1 | made me do the same |
| 06:29.19 | ScytheBlade1 | :( |
| 06:29.20 | Sixen | =[[ |
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| 06:31.25 | batrick | --> debug.upvalue |
| 06:31.26 | batbot | batrick: > function: 0x8098570 |
| 06:32.49 | batrick | --> local a = "hi" function geta() return a end local b = "bye" function getb() return b end function seta(v) a = v end function setb(v) b = v end |
| 06:33.01 | batrick | --> debug.upvalue(a), debug.upvalue(b) |
| 06:33.01 | batbot | batrick: @ [string "return debug.upvalue(a), debug.upvalue(b)"]:1: bad argument #1 to 'upvalue' (function expected, got nil) |
| 06:33.16 | batrick | --> debug.upvalue(geta, 1), debug.upvalue(getb, 1) |
| 06:33.16 | batbot | batrick: > userdata: 0x80e8968, userdata: 0x80e9028 |
| 06:33.20 | batrick | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:34.17 | batrick | --> debug.shareupvalue(getb, 1, geta, 1) |
| 06:34.18 | batbot | batrick: > true |
| 06:34.20 | batrick | --> debug.upvalue(geta, 1), debug.upvalue(getb, 1) |
| 06:34.21 | batbot | batrick: > userdata: 0x80e8968, userdata: 0x80e8968 |
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| 06:39.02 | Maul | Guillotine: Zoot used some funky quotes in his post. I changed them to what my editor types out and his example works |
| 06:43.58 | art3mis | http://www.celebsinc.com/pictures/CharlotteChurch/nude/charlotte_church_003.jpg |
| 06:44.00 | art3mis | mmm |
| 06:44.44 | art3mis | and god damn shes got an amazing voice |
| 06:44.51 | |pez| | I like less shiny corsets |
| 06:46.02 | Keias | mmm corsets |
| 06:46.12 | kd3 | re gchat: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/f9e51233c1df595378a40526d9ae63cd.jpg |
| 06:46.17 | Nechckn_BetaNow | pfft... I saw nude and got all excited art3mis, you tease! |
| 06:46.31 | art3mis | heh sorry |
| 06:46.36 | art3mis | she is damn hot though |
| 06:47.04 | Nechckn_BetaNow | OK.. points for that. =) |
| 06:48.52 | Tem | oh is there an addon dev guild on ptr? |
| 06:49.04 | Cairenn | of course |
| 06:49.57 | ScytheBlade1 | US PvE alliance side, on it now |
| 06:50.44 | Tem | who can invite? |
| 06:51.18 | ScytheBlade1 | <-- |
| 06:51.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Sboo |
| 06:54.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, anyone actually |
| 06:54.23 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:54.39 | Tem | soon as I'm done patching... |
| 06:55.07 | batrick | Shirik|zZz: thanks |
| 06:55.12 | ScytheBlade1 | It's set up so that people can invite people as many as two (three?) deep |
| 06:55.23 | ScytheBlade1 | And I just login every so often and promote people I know to officer |
| 06:55.56 | Tem | did they fix the stat stacking bug? |
| 06:56.00 | kd3 | no |
| 06:56.23 | Tem | oh yay, I might have to log my druid an play |
| 06:56.26 | Tem | oh lolz |
| 06:56.37 | Tem | which smartass put that in the motd? |
| 06:57.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Guillotine! ;) |
| 06:57.22 | art3mis | better a smartass than a dumbass |
| 06:57.27 | Guillotine | I'm testing stuff |
| 06:57.48 | Tem | I'm pretty sure that just broke my client |
| 06:57.54 | Tem | as it won't take the focus back |
| 06:58.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Click the down arrows |
| 06:58.14 | ScytheBlade1 | It breaks the keybound scrolling |
| 06:59.22 | ScytheBlade1 | zzzz |
| 07:00.49 | Tem | Guillotine, something with the guild frame breaks my client |
| 07:01.07 | Guillotine | don't try to edit the MOTD manually |
| 07:01.10 | Guillotine | when theres an icon in it |
| 07:01.14 | Guillotine | you have to use the script |
| 07:01.24 | Tem | oh is that it? |
| 07:01.28 | Guillotine | yup |
| 07:01.32 | Tem | if I click it, my client dies |
| 07:01.36 | Tem | (horribly) |
| 07:01.38 | art3mis | Nechckn_BetaNow: did i already tell ya how awesome ASSP is? |
| 07:01.45 | Guillotine | it did the same thing with \n, but Slouken made it filter out linebreaks when I told him :D |
| 07:02.10 | Tem | huh |
| 07:02.15 | Tem | well, I'll tell zoot |
| 07:02.55 | Guillotine | Give me credit! |
| 07:02.58 | Guillotine | lol |
| 07:03.02 | kd3 | huh. all the daily quests at stage 4 of the SSO storyline net about 4k rep a day |
| 07:03.28 | Guillotine | whoops |
| 07:03.35 | Guillotine | I accidently clicked on the MOTD |
| 07:04.11 | Tem | Guillotine, I'll probably just paste the logs from here |
| 07:04.30 | Guillotine | if you're going to send it, let me give you my file with all of the possibilities |
| 07:04.45 | Guillotine | was going to send it to slouken, but if you're already preparing it, you can have it |
| 07:07.59 | art3mis | http://youtube.com/watch?v=Uq-FoLeKaPI <-- charlotte church |
| 07:11.28 | kd3 | oh wow... someone's got a windserpent that I can see from the top of the inn. |
| 07:11.38 | art3mis | http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q8G4nV78xWI&feature=related |
| 07:15.30 | Guillotine | I hearby challenge Tem for the title of Game Breaker |
| 07:15.44 | Tem | bring it, fool |
| 07:17.00 | Guillotine | first person to crash the PTR wins |
| 07:17.01 | Guillotine | 1 |
| 07:17.02 | Guillotine | 2 |
| 07:17.03 | Guillotine | 3 |
| 07:17.03 | Guillotine | GO |
| 07:17.06 | Tem | meh |
| 07:17.21 | Tem | I found a bug in the icons like a month ago |
| 07:17.44 | Tem | I wonder if it's fixed yet... |
| 07:17.51 | Guillotine | elaborate |
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| 07:18.06 | Guillotine | Elkano is my hero |
| 07:18.19 | Guillotine | seriously, EBB is pure win |
| 07:18.41 | Elkano | Ohayô ^^ |
| 07:19.11 | break19 | Elkano: ebb should support libsharedmedia2 :) |
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| 07:20.27 | art3mis | http://youtube.com/watch?v=hz9_ELpil9w |
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| 07:23.59 | Elkano | break19, it will NEVER do so |
| 07:24.15 | fromatz | does blizzard ever plan on fixing the getbattlefieldwinner? |
| 07:24.16 | break19 | Elkano: my local copy does... muahaha |
| 07:25.07 | Elkano | so you broke yours on purpose? |
| 07:25.23 | break19 | aint broke. works fine |
| 07:26.07 | Elkano | well... set a global override and you'll see... |
| 07:26.19 | fromatz | hmmm, wowwiki says its broke in 2.3.2 |
| 07:26.28 | fromatz | oh nm, not talking to me |
| 07:26.54 | kd3 | alright... maybe I'm missing it... how the hell do I add more bars in bob3? |
| 07:26.56 | Guillotine | Anybody else want to join the author guild? You can see my fun MOTD stuff! |
| 07:27.02 | Elkano | break19, SharedMediaLib-1.0 and LibSharedMedia-3.0 are my work... LSM-2.0 was created and pushed live without even trying to talk to me though... |
| 07:27.28 | Maul | Guillotine: Sure, I'll whisper you |
| 07:27.44 | Guillotine | Maul: Geeohteene |
| 07:27.53 | Guillotine | I had already used Guillotine and Guilly :( |
| 07:31.02 | art3mis | http://youtube.com/watch?v=DGrD3ECzqAg&feature=related |
| 07:31.17 | art3mis | i think i want her for my birthday this eyar |
| 07:31.19 | art3mis | year |
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| 07:31.45 | AlexanderYoshi | I went to a restaurant called The Wild Rabbit for my birthday this evenign |
| 07:31.48 | AlexanderYoshi | It was great |
| 07:31.57 | AlexanderYoshi | The chef served us personalyl and the food was fantastic |
| 07:32.01 | AlexanderYoshi | Even the hostess was super cute |
| 07:32.05 | kd3 | ooh, nice |
| 07:32.27 | AlexanderYoshi | Yeah, it was a fantastic experience |
| 07:32.32 | AlexanderYoshi | Wonderful atmosphere |
| 07:32.37 | bleeter | I wanna go there right now |
| 07:32.46 | bleeter | sounds that good, been years since I've had decent service |
| 07:33.06 | Guillotine | Taco bell service is good |
| 07:33.19 | Guillotine | They don't spit in my food more than once |
| 07:33.41 | bleeter | Guillotine: thankfully the closest one's about 500km's away, including 250km's of water |
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| 07:34.17 | fromatz | will GetGuildInfo(unit); if you pass in someone from another realm in a bg |
| 07:34.23 | fromatz | ^^ work |
| 07:34.41 | Tem | fromatz, try it and see |
| 07:34.45 | fromatz | good call |
| 07:34.49 | Tem | there's no reason it shouldn't |
| 07:35.19 | fromatz | i didnt know if these functions could only access the guild info of someone on the same server as who is calling the function |
| 07:36.02 | Falcon213 | as long as you're in the same bg as the unit then there shouldn't be a problem |
| 07:37.03 | fromatz | cool |
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| 07:41.24 | Gngsk | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7gIpuIVE3k |
| 07:41.32 | Gngsk | oops, mt |
| 07:47.48 | art3mis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7p96aiE32k |
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| 07:58.21 | mikma | art3mis: http://youtube.com/watch?v=L6ViM8tKG1Q |
| 08:01.50 | mikma | art3mis: and you can continue to http://youtube.com/watch?v=gEgXDhiayz4 from that |
| 08:03.11 | Guillotine | night all |
| 08:03.17 | Tem | Opinion request |
| 08:03.24 | Guillotine | Opinion granted |
| 08:03.29 | Tem | For an addon that adds item Icons to chat |
| 08:03.32 | Cairenn | happy birthday AlexanderYoshi! |
| 08:03.35 | Tem | should I also support spell links? |
| 08:03.41 | Guillotine | Yes |
| 08:03.45 | Guillotine | Happy birthday Alex! |
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| 08:06.09 | AlexanderYoshi | Thanks |
| 08:08.08 | Tem | how do you speficy a literal "%" in a printf? |
| 08:08.15 | Tem | two? |
| 08:08.16 | kd3 | %%? |
| 08:08.18 | AlexanderYoshi | %% |
| 08:08.20 | AlexanderYoshi | or \% |
| 08:08.27 | Tem | should have just tried it |
| 08:08.33 | Tem | I totally guessed right |
| 08:09.02 | art3mis | mikma: yeah ive got them in my playlist, saw em live a few months back |
| 08:09.27 | mikma | art3mis: any good in live? |
| 08:10.31 | Cairenn | night all |
| 08:11.07 | art3mis | http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/940510 |
| 08:11.12 | art3mis | they sound pretty much the same |
| 08:11.18 | art3mis | cept shes much hotter live ;P |
| 08:12.05 | mikma | imho the most important thing is that they sound like same :P that means she actually can sing :D |
| 08:12.18 | art3mis | the lead singer chick of stolen babies though was only 1 tiny step down from the hotness that is christine scabia from lacuna coil ;P |
| 08:12.47 | art3mis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GcZHxXTW90 |
| 08:12.52 | art3mis | ^^ they suond the same live too |
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| 08:29.00 | Atriace | must... go... to sleep. |
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| 10:04.00 | clockworkservant | hmm |
| 10:04.17 | clockworkservant | what's up with the european servers? |
| 10:04.31 | Elkano | up? no, down... |
| 10:04.47 | clockworkservant | no-one knows what the delay is? |
| 10:04.58 | nevcairiel | the EU servers are coming up already |
| 10:05.04 | nevcairiel | its 5 min over and you go crazy :P |
| 10:05.13 | Kalroth | hahah |
| 10:05.21 | clockworkservant | haha |
| 10:05.27 | clockworkservant | yes! are you surprised :) |
| 10:05.32 | clockworkservant | cool they're up |
| 10:05.46 | Kalroth | [11:03] <clockworkservant> what's up with the european servers? <- OMG 3 MINS DELAY, I BET ITS PATCH 2.4 ALREADY! |
| 10:06.04 | nevcairiel | he left already :( |
| 10:06.27 | Kalroth | Pfft, he was just a downtime troll anyways! |
| 10:09.00 | Esine | :-( you wouldn't understand |
| 10:09.03 | Esine | I've been waiting for aso long time |
| 10:09.08 | Esine | all wow-europe realms still arent up! |
| 10:09.23 | Esine | usually they're up like 30min early ro something |
| 10:09.26 | Elkano | was fun in #wowace ^^ |
| 10:09.26 | Elkano | [11:00:08] <Elkano> OK, as we just hit 11:00CET European users may now start to whine about their servers still being down. |
| 10:09.26 | Elkano | [11:00:13] <Grum> OMG NO EU SERVERS UP!! hax |
| 10:09.30 | Esine | now they're horribly horribly horribly late |
| 10:10.17 | Nom- | anyone here dealt with wsdl before / |
| 10:10.19 | Nom- | ? |
| 10:10.32 | nevcairiel | nop |
| 10:12.13 | Kalroth | Nom-: That's just soap interface defintions, yeah? |
| 10:12.26 | Nom- | Well, it's web services |
| 10:12.36 | Kalroth | Most IDE's I've worked with handles them just fine |
| 10:12.36 | Nom- | But generally, yes |
| 10:12.44 | Kalroth | (Delphi, VS.net) |
| 10:12.55 | Nom- | Yeah, I just noticed Eclipse has a pretty hot interface for builing them |
| 10:13.00 | Nom- | *downloads latest eclipse* |
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| 10:15.18 | Esine | the realms are up :)) |
| 10:15.28 | Nom- | They were down ? |
| 10:15.35 | Esine | european |
| 10:27.18 | Keias | ohay, blackrock down AGAIN. Argh |
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| 10:59.30 | Wobin_ | hm |
| 10:59.41 | Wobin_ | are their issues when trying to paste colour codes into chat? |
| 11:00.33 | clad|office | Wobin_: yes, because | is escaped |
| 11:00.35 | clad|office | using \124 |
| 11:00.38 | clad|office | err |
| 11:00.41 | clad|office | use \124 to avoid that |
| 11:00.47 | clad|office | any | typed into a chat box becomes || |
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| 11:29.56 | Wobin_ | clad|office: aha, ta |
| 11:30.10 | foxlit | http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/7346/uithingcl4.jpg |
| 11:30.15 | foxlit | Find the missing buttons :) |
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| 13:13.25 | Shirik | wheeeeeeeeeee |
| 13:13.26 | Shirik | oracle.security.sso.enabler.SSOEnablerException: Attempting to get database connection from connection cache:nulljava.lang.NullPointerException >> erau.blackboard.com |
| 13:13.29 | Shirik | Gotta love blackboard |
| 13:13.54 | clad|office | do we really? |
| 13:13.55 | clad|office | i disagree :P |
| 13:14.11 | Lopeppeppy | I love chocolate instead. |
| 13:19.40 | mikma | mm, cake |
| 13:20.11 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh, I think I need breakfast before you make me do something horrible. |
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| 13:24.11 | mikma | bah, can't login to ptr |
| 13:24.20 | mikma | tells me my password is incorrect |
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| 13:26.01 | Lopeppeppy | Have you recently changed your password? |
| 13:26.23 | mikma | nope |
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| 13:27.23 | mikma | no idea is this the reason: http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert |
| 13:28.12 | Lopeppeppy | Maybe. Last word I had was that both PTR's were borked anyway. |
| 13:28.27 | mikma | lawl! |
| 13:28.40 | mikma | ok then, anyone knows is the shaman ghost wolf now instant with 2/2 talent? |
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| 13:31.01 | [dRaCo] | it should be, yes |
| 13:31.10 | [dRaCo] | not been to the ptr since the changes, though |
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| 14:01.35 | Wobin_ | clad|office: Hm, replaceing | with \124 doesn't seem to do much =\ |
| 14:01.44 | Wobin_ | to prevent crashing |
| 14:01.45 | clad|office | it should |
| 14:01.47 | clad|office | uhh |
| 14:01.50 | clad|office | you never mentioned a crash |
| 14:01.54 | Wobin_ | oh. |
| 14:02.05 | Wobin_ | That was the 'issue' =) |
| 14:02.09 | Wobin_ | sorry, didn't clarify |
| 14:02.56 | clad|office | so what are you doing that crashes the client? |
| 14:03.04 | clad|office | type quick, cause i should get running :P |
| 14:03.24 | Wobin_ | basic colour codes in a string |
| 14:03.31 | Wobin_ | pasted to the editbox |
| 14:03.36 | clad|office | such as? |
| 14:03.40 | clad|office | whats the string? |
| 14:03.48 | Wobin_ | experience/level |
| 14:04.03 | Wobin_ | with |r|cHexcolourherex |
| 14:04.13 | Shirik | what's the crash? |
| 14:04.22 | Wobin_ | lemme do it again |
| 14:04.22 | haste | the chatframe's editbox? |
| 14:04.25 | Wobin_ | aye |
| 14:04.33 | haste | why are you adding colors there :p ? |
| 14:04.37 | haste | it will only disconnect you |
| 14:05.08 | Wobin_ | yeah I figured that =) |
| 14:05.15 | Wobin_ | So I'll just scrub the string |
| 14:05.31 | Wobin_ | Was just hoping that might not have to be the case |
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| 14:52.05 | ralfWORK | killed HKM last night, yay! |
| 14:52.17 | Keias | grats |
| 14:52.26 | Shirik | Okay pop quiz |
| 14:52.30 | ralfWORK | ya. too bad it wasn't a guild run :( |
| 14:52.31 | Shirik | Which is "better" |
| 14:52.32 | Lopeppeppy | Huzzah. How did your poking at Gruul himself go? |
| 14:52.42 | Shirik | Throw an unahdled NullPointerException or segfault? |
| 14:52.54 | ralfWORK | Lopeppeppy: people had to go... so 15 of us pulled our way to gruul |
| 14:53.10 | Keias | Why would people go before Gruul :( |
| 14:53.19 | ralfWORK | and then saw the 3-pull before gruul and having only 2 tanks, decided to death run it :P |
| 14:53.24 | Keias | You must've been stuck with all the people drooling over DST |
| 14:53.48 | ralfWORK | well... that's what happens when you set the expectation that we're only here for HKM |
| 14:53.55 | ralfWORK | it was a french guild on our server |
| 14:54.04 | ralfWORK | we ended up PUGing a good bit of people, sadly |
| 14:54.14 | ralfWORK | so you know how that goes |
| 14:55.47 | ralfWORK | I was surprised that we took him down honestly |
| 14:56.05 | ralfWORK | there was another shadowpriest there... had about 600 shadow damage |
| 14:56.16 | ralfWORK | I was just like "wow... and they let you come?" |
| 14:57.16 | ralfWORK | it was also funny to me because when my guild does kara, I'm usually about 3rd on damage |
| 14:57.26 | ralfWORK | yet in this 25 man setting I was 2nd |
| 14:57.38 | ralfWORK | which speaks volumes of what the rest of the raid was doing |
| 14:58.05 | sacarasc | they broke my realm ;( |
| 14:58.18 | ralfWORK | :( |
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| 15:21.55 | |Jelly| | !c us drenden kimina |
| 15:21.58 | WoWLuaircBot | |Jelly|: Kimina, Level 70 Blood Elf Priest (42/19/0). 10601 HP; 10544 Mana; 235 mana regen; 98 mp5; 438 +spell dmg; 1168 +heal; 5.06% dodge; 275 resilience; 24 arcane resist;[[ TBR: 1007 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2fx6zd ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2pkb3p ][ Updated: Wed Feb 27 10:31:29 2008 EST ]] |
| 15:22.12 | ralfWORK | wewt 5% dodge! |
| 15:22.43 | ralfWORK | ohhhh pee vee pee |
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| 15:23.07 | |Jelly| | !vs us burning legion jelly us drenden kimina |
| 15:23.08 | WoWLuaircBot | |Jelly|: jelly vs kimina! It's a showdown! But wait! What's this?! Something random? kimina wins by 6721406 TBRs! Wow, that's GOTTA hurt. |
| 15:23.19 | ralfWORK | lolwut |
| 15:23.20 | |Jelly| | sigh |
| 15:23.28 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 15:23.29 | |Jelly| | !vs us burning legion jelly us drenden kimina |
| 15:23.29 | WoWLuaircBot | |Jelly|: I just said that 21s ago. |
| 15:23.37 | |Jelly| | Yeah but you were a douche about it. |
| 15:23.42 | ralfWORK | hahaahahah |
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| 15:24.59 | |Jelly| | !vs us burning legion jelly us drenden kimina |
| 15:25.02 | WoWLuaircBot | |Jelly|: Jelly vs Kimina! Two 70 priests square off!; 43/18/0 vs 42/19/0; Kimina wins by 249 TBRs! |
| 15:25.08 | |Jelly| | That cheating whore. |
| 15:25.10 | ralfWORK | mmkay... |
| 15:25.24 | |Jelly| | Curse you, Shirik! |
| 15:25.32 | Shirik | heh |
| 15:25.33 | Shirik | I'm pvp specced |
| 15:25.39 | Shirik | sorry, I didn't raid yesterday |
| 15:25.52 | |Jelly| | |Jelly|: Jelly vs Kimina! Two 70 priests square off!; *43/18/0* vs 42/19/0; Kimina wins by 249 TBRs! |
| 15:26.02 | Shirik | what's the * for? |
| 15:26.10 | |Jelly| | [09:25]<Shirik>I'm pvp specced |
| 15:26.23 | |Jelly| | !co us drenden kimina us burning legion jelly |
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| 15:37.22 | Tem | !c us drenden kimina us burning legion jelly |
| 15:37.23 | WoWLuaircBot | Tem: jelly is not the character you are looking for! |
| 15:37.41 | Tem | !c us burning legion jelly |
| 15:37.42 | WoWLuaircBot | Tem: Jelly, Level 70 Blood Elf Priest (43/18/0). 10151 HP; 10824 Mana; 241 mana regen; 104 mp5; 480 +spell dmg; 1178 +heal; 5.06% dodge; 236 resilience;[[ TBR: 758 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yrmc88 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mw2d7 ][ Updated: Wed Feb 27 10:34:33 2008 EST ]] |
| 15:43.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | !vs us drenden kimina us burning legion jelly |
| 15:43.57 | WoWLuaircBot | Mr_Rabies2: Kimina vs Jelly! Two 70 priests square off!; 42/19/0 vs 43/18/0; Kimina wins by 249 TBRs! |
| 15:44.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | ;o |
| 15:46.40 | Josh_Borke | !vs us drenden kimina us stormreaver dagh |
| 15:46.44 | WoWLuaircBot | Josh_Borke: Kimina vs Dagh! Two 70 priests square off!; 42/19/0 vs 14/0/47; Kimina wins by 145 TBRs! |
| 15:46.48 | Josh_Borke | :-( |
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| 16:18.46 | art3mis | !vs us echo isles rozalyn us drenden kimina |
| 16:18.50 | WoWLuaircBot | art3mis: Rozalyn vs Kimina! Two 70 priests square off!; 23/0/38 vs 42/19/0; Rozalyn wins by 403 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 16:19.07 | art3mis | !vs us echo isles rozalyn us burning legion jelly |
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| 16:22.07 | Falcon213 | wth kind of priest spec is 23/0/38? |
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| 16:24.18 | Shirik | whoo |
| 16:24.21 | Shirik | SDS done |
| 16:24.23 | Shirik | finally |
| 16:26.16 | art3mis | http://wow.scammer.exposed.googlepages.com/ |
| 16:26.37 | art3mis | Falcon213: its a shadow-i-dont-group-so-i-dont-need-vt-now-piss-off spec ;P |
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| 16:30.28 | Falcon213 | lol |
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| 16:32.06 | Cidan | asdkjasdjalsdjaksldj |
| 16:32.09 | Cidan | LSKDJSLDKJIOWEWIEUIWEOUERUOWU |
| 16:32.10 | Cidan | imo |
| 16:35.02 | art3mis | is that a welsh accent? |
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| 16:37.41 | Kaso | welsh sounds like you've had a stroke and half your face is paralised to me |
| 16:37.52 | Kaso | paralyzed |
| 16:38.26 | Cidan | rofl |
| 16:44.16 | Lopeppeppy | can't run as fast then? |
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| 16:49.54 | cncfanatics | hello all |
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| 17:06.19 | Kaso | The prime ministers office replied to an online petition i signed, i didnt know they actually read these things! |
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| 17:07.03 | nevcairiel | hehe |
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| 17:16.45 | Kaso | :< |
| 17:16.46 | Fisker- | stop being a terrorist |
| 17:16.59 | Shirik | ~kill Kaso |
| 17:16.59 | purl | ACTION shoots a magneto-ionized anti-quark gun at Kaso |
| 17:17.13 | Kaso | im a trrist? |
| 17:17.16 | Shirik | ~literal kill |
| 17:17.37 | Shirik | Kaso: Do you live in the U.S.? |
| 17:17.51 | Kaso | No..? |
| 17:17.53 | Shirik | Then according to Bush you're a terrorist. QED. |
| 17:18.12 | foxlit | So I wrote ./configure && make |
| 17:18.28 | foxlit | Apparently, the GD library does not compile instantly :( |
| 17:18.47 | Shirik | I got dot slash configure, and I said yo this package is big, but MY package is bigger |
| 17:19.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: Zoot called me a terrorist last night. So, no, I'm the terrorist. |
| 17:20.05 | Fisker- | anyways what was it about Kaso? :o |
| 17:20.16 | foxlit | http://imgs.xkcd.com/blag/xkcd_389.mp3 |
| 17:20.41 | Kaso | foxlit, fucker rickrolled us in sheet music form >< |
| 17:21.19 | foxlit | Now, see, I don't parse music sheets. |
| 17:21.20 | foxlit | Safe! |
| 17:21.33 | foxlit | (not to that level anyway) |
| 17:21.39 | Kaso | Fisker-, "Animal research has enabled scientists to find treatments for cancer, vaccines and antibiotics. This does not advocate using animals unnecessarily but animal research is required because sometimes there are no other viable alternatives." |
| 17:22.28 | Fisker- | :o |
| 17:22.30 | Fisker- | so what did they say? |
| 17:22.39 | Fisker- | GTFO our government you terrorist? |
| 17:22.57 | Kaso | basically, yah we agree. |
| 17:23.00 | Kaso | http://www.pm.gov.uk/output/Page14735.asp |
| 17:23.37 | Fisker- | oh |
| 17:23.49 | Fisker- | thought it was something like petitiononline and they had randomly seen and read it |
| 17:24.34 | Kaso | Nah, its the government thing, but i've still never seen em reply before |
| 17:24.41 | Kaso | But it is a nice website |
| 17:25.05 | TecnoBrat|Work | Shirik: all of the terrorist live in the US |
| 17:25.12 | Shirik | not according to Bush |
| 17:25.17 | Shirik | and that man's a genius, he knows everything |
| 17:25.19 | Shirik | all hail Bush |
| 17:25.31 | ralfWORK | he's prett smurt |
| 17:28.51 | TecnoBrat|Work | yes he is smrt |
| 17:29.07 | Kaso | yay new ZP up! |
| 17:29.29 | Esamynn|Work | ~lart Shirik |
| 17:29.29 | purl | does a little 'renice 20 -u Shirik' |
| 17:29.32 | Esamynn|Work | ~lart ralfWORK |
| 17:29.32 | purl | hooks into a hydrant and hoses ralfWORK down |
| 17:29.41 | ralfWORK | rofl |
| 17:29.42 | Esamynn|Work | ~lart TecnoBrat|Work |
| 17:29.42 | purl | explains, ever so gently, that if TecnoBrat|Work doesn't give the channel more information, they can't help |
| 17:30.13 | TecnoBrat|Work | hmm |
| 17:30.16 | TecnoBrat|Work | that was .. uhhh |
| 17:30.19 | TecnoBrat|Work | pathetic |
| 17:30.39 | Esamynn|Work | no kidding |
| 17:30.47 | Esamynn|Work | ~lart TecnoBrat|Work |
| 17:30.47 | purl | takes out a cattle prod and gives TecnoBrat|Work a good jolt |
| 17:30.51 | Esamynn|Work | much better |
| 17:31.00 | lagger | are the globalstring variable names consistent in every language version of wow? |
| 17:31.00 | TecnoBrat|Work | yes, yes it was |
| 17:31.00 | Esamynn|Work | ~lart3mis |
| 17:31.00 | purl | ACTION smacks art3mis upside the head just cuz |
| 17:31.03 | art3mis | yes you heard right |
| 17:31.04 | art3mis | blod! |
| 17:31.11 | Esamynn|Work | lagger: the variable names are, yes |
| 17:31.27 | lagger | kk |
| 17:31.38 | batrick | --> debug.upvalue(function() end, 0) |
| 17:31.43 | ralfWORK | dang |
| 17:31.49 | Esamynn|Work | ~whaleslap art3mis |
| 17:31.49 | purl | ACTION beats art3mis upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 17:32.10 | TecnoBrat|Work | HUGH |
| 17:32.21 | Esamynn|Work | ~bzfrag art3mis |
| 17:32.21 | purl | ACTION kills art3mis with a shot from his BZTank |
| 17:32.56 | Maldivia | Hmm, shouldn't it be possible to "store" your current form in the actionbar, for a druid potion macro, that automatically switches back to previous form? |
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| 17:33.28 | batrick | --> debug.upvalue(function() end, 0) |
| 17:33.33 | batbot | batrick: > nil |
| 17:33.46 | art3mis | only barely batbot |
| 17:34.10 | art3mis | although i am concerned why a bot is concerned with batrick's colon |
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| 17:35.54 | batrick | ~lartemis |
| 17:35.55 | Maldivia | --> table.foreach(debug, print) |
| 17:35.56 | batbot | Maldivia: getupvalue function: 0x80d6d70sethook function: 0x80a00e8shareupvalue function: 0x80d6d30upvalue function: 0x8098570getmetatable function: 0x80d6e50gethook function: 0x8088988setmetatable function: 0x80d6df0setlocal function:...(tldr) |
| 17:37.18 | art3mis | man these spam singles rules |
| 17:43.01 | Fisker- | btw |
| 17:43.12 | Fisker- | hello kitty ui > hello kitty underwear |
| 17:43.14 | Fisker- | :( |
| 17:43.18 | Esamynn|Work | lol |
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| 17:47.32 | art3mis | http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=ayPhWL_iSyc0&refer=home |
| 17:47.44 | art3mis | hah |
| 17:47.59 | art3mis | only because most of the girls you know that have it are either related or under age |
| 17:52.35 | Fisker- | and that's a bad thing? |
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| 17:54.01 | art3mis | http://www.rlslog.net/guild-wars-passes-5-million-players/ |
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| 17:55.13 | Keias | It'd have a fifth of that if there was a monthly fee. |
| 17:55.39 | art3mis | yup |
| 17:55.45 | art3mis | but still impressive |
| 17:55.53 | art3mis | for a game where you cant jump ;P |
| 17:56.02 | ralfWORK | rofl wow |
| 17:56.14 | Falcon213 | guild wars is to pvp as wow is to raiding imo |
| 17:56.23 | Fisker- | is that 5 million players playing? |
| 17:56.34 | art3mis | and consider that it's got 4 expensions out at ~$50 a pop |
| 17:56.45 | art3mis | and most of those players have all 5 |
| 17:56.52 | art3mis | it's not bad |
| 17:57.07 | Keias | 5 million sales |
| 17:57.10 | Keias | including ALL expansions |
| 17:57.11 | Falcon213 | I have them all, though I haven't really played eotn |
| 17:57.16 | Keias | according to that article |
| 17:57.43 | art3mis | 5million players |
| 17:57.57 | art3mis | which means 5million* original+expansions |
| 17:58.10 | Falcon213 | 5 million accounts I would guess |
| 17:58.32 | Falcon213 | because all be the last weren't really expansions, but stand-alone games that you could add to your account as expansions |
| 17:58.35 | art3mis | and to be honest if i could jump in GW i'd rather play that than wow ;P |
| 17:58.44 | Falcon213 | lol |
| 17:59.04 | art3mis | i hate having to run down a set path instead of jumping the 4feet ;P |
| 17:59.14 | Fisker- | wow probably have a BILLION accounts |
| 17:59.22 | Falcon213 | my problem with gw was that pvp was too tough to do casually |
| 17:59.36 | art3mis | i liked Zu online's little addons |
| 17:59.39 | Keias | imagine the WoW userbase if it didn't have a monthly fee |
| 17:59.44 | art3mis | like the autho pathing |
| 17:59.49 | art3mis | err auto pathing |
| 17:59.52 | art3mis | and auto combat |
| 18:00.06 | art3mis | set up one skill/spell to cast and it would just cast it for ya |
| 18:00.15 | Falcon213 | ... |
| 18:00.27 | Falcon213 | sounds like... fun... |
| 18:00.28 | art3mis | the auto pathing meant open the map click somewhere and it would run there complete with avoidance for terrain |
| 18:00.35 | Falcon213 | ahh |
| 18:00.36 | art3mis | it's great in early levels |
| 18:00.51 | art3mis | for the combat that is |
| 18:01.11 | art3mis | or for killing mobs to clear a path |
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| 18:01.54 | Falcon213 | yeah but if it automatically kills stuff for you then it seems kinda boring |
| 18:02.11 | art3mis | and in the starting area you could click on quest objectives and it would take you to a waypoint about where the quest was |
| 18:02.33 | art3mis | it does, its not as effective, but you'd still have to start and start combat |
| 18:02.42 | art3mis | err target and start |
| 18:02.55 | art3mis | and it had a cartoony feel to the whole game |
| 18:03.08 | art3mis | was fun in beta |
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| 18:07.14 | art3mis | nice mmorpg has an auto popup for xpantivirus |
| 18:12.43 | Falcon213 | lol what's new.. hc raiders complaining that casuals might only be a tier behind them >> http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4914022899&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 18:13.07 | dylanm | They're always looking over their shoulders. |
| 18:14.09 | ralfWORK | they need to get over themselves |
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| 18:15.22 | Falcon213 | seriously.. to me I don't care too much since I get bored with pve easy.. but then again this could get me to actually play more pve if it means experiencing new content |
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| 18:16.11 | ralfWORK | it's funny to me how at this point anyone who's T6 is considered HC |
| 18:16.29 | ralfWORK | and then the people that got to kill illidan just last week |
| 18:16.41 | ralfWORK | QQ about "omg the casuals are right behind us!" |
| 18:17.07 | Lopeppeppy | My rogue is behind them too. |
| 18:17.08 | dylanm | Aahaha. |
| 18:17.12 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 18:17.38 | ralfWORK | they want to be sooooo hardcore |
| 18:17.46 | ralfWORK | and yet did they make world firsts? nope |
| 18:18.00 | ralfWORK | so how hardcore were you really? |
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| 18:19.22 | art3mis | id' love it if there were instances and high end content i could do solo or maybe a 5man |
| 18:19.39 | art3mis | im so sick of the top out that wow does for the big groups or the endless grind |
| 18:19.48 | art3mis | i hate raids |
| 18:19.56 | ralfWORK | I'd love there to be heroic raids |
| 18:20.01 | art3mis | i havent set foot in ssc bt hyjal zul |
| 18:20.18 | art3mis | and ive been to kara 3 times and gruul twice |
| 18:21.17 | Falcon213 | heroic old-world raids would be pimp |
| 18:21.26 | ralfWORK | I never saw the old world stuff |
| 18:21.39 | art3mis | i'd love that |
| 18:21.42 | ralfWORK | so making them heroic is the only viable way of getting people to do them |
| 18:21.44 | art3mis | if the old world got revamped |
| 18:21.50 | art3mis | i liked the old world content |
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| 18:21.58 | art3mis | i'd love it if they'd revert scholo too |
| 18:22.04 | art3mis | back to the insane 5man one |
| 18:22.09 | ralfWORK | and getting 10 people to do Ony or something |
| 18:22.31 | art3mis | or hroic dm |
| 18:22.43 | art3mis | or a that island that you farm chimera meat from |
| 18:22.44 | ralfWORK | for some level 60 loot that you're not even gonna bother sharding, but you vendor instead |
| 18:22.48 | ralfWORK | just... isn't great |
| 18:22.51 | art3mis | if they put some neat giant instance there |
| 18:23.02 | Falcon213 | I 3-manned only the other day... first time I had ever done it |
| 18:23.20 | art3mis | soloing baron is about the only fun i have these days |
| 18:23.21 | Keias | I just want a heroic Dire Maul north |
| 18:23.36 | Falcon213 | me (frost mage), a war, and a disc priest.. all pvp specced |
| 18:24.17 | Falcon213 | [12:19] <art3mis> id' love it if there were instances and high end content i could do solo or maybe a 5man |
| 18:24.29 | Falcon213 | the new dungeon is supposed to have decent loot on heroic |
| 18:24.41 | Falcon213 | tier4 quality |
| 18:25.07 | art3mis | falcon the sun isle one? |
| 18:25.07 | ralfWORK | yea big deal |
| 18:25.12 | Falcon213 | well, I haven't seen it, but I'm guessing it's actually better than that based on the new badge items |
| 18:25.22 | ralfWORK | the new badge items are pimp |
| 18:25.31 | art3mis | im big on exploring and questing |
| 18:25.40 | Tem | Maul, http://images.gammatester.com/pics/496525840c0b1945bebfdb52f030bc42.jpg |
| 18:25.42 | art3mis | i hate running things over and over |
| 18:25.48 | Falcon213 | yeah same here |
| 18:25.55 | ralfWORK | but uhm |
| 18:26.02 | ralfWORK | don't you find you run out of content quickly? |
| 18:26.09 | art3mis | yup |
| 18:26.14 | art3mis | hence my bitching about it ;P |
| 18:26.19 | ralfWORK | uh. k. |
| 18:26.30 | Fisker- | awesome new feature btw Tem |
| 18:26.36 | Fisker- | if only i could test it on the PTR |
| 18:26.37 | Fisker- | but noooooo |
| 18:26.42 | Fisker- | we have to fuck up the EU ptrs |
| 18:26.43 | Fisker- | also |
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| 18:26.50 | Fisker- | george w. bush doesn't care about european people |
| 18:26.52 | Falcon213 | well, that isn't really bliz's fault, seeing that they can't just add new content every couple weeks |
| 18:26.53 | art3mis | i dont mind 5-10man stuff, i just dont like the endless grind either for rep, honour, gold, or in instances |
| 18:26.56 | Maul | Tem: very nice, I like :) |
| 18:26.58 | Falcon213 | but I find myself the same way |
| 18:27.03 | art3mis | Falcon213: they could |
| 18:27.05 | ralfWORK | I dunno. seems like raiding is a better way of doing it than questing :P |
| 18:27.09 | ralfWORK | Falcon213: exactly |
| 18:27.13 | art3mis | i wouldnt care if it was just random stupid quests |
| 18:27.36 | art3mis | just throw in an odd mob here and there with a chain quest to go explore crap again |
| 18:27.39 | art3mis | like the nag quest |
| 18:27.50 | art3mis | complete them all and bring thrall to nagg |
| 18:27.55 | art3mis | that was a great quest |
| 18:28.15 | ralfWORK | *shrug* |
| 18:28.19 | ralfWORK | you can do that alone |
| 18:28.20 | art3mis | but there are so many places in outland that people go to once and never agani |
| 18:28.40 | ralfWORK | any of the console RPGs will let you do that |
| 18:28.40 | art3mis | so adding in "go eplore here" based chains would certainly add to the fun |
| 18:28.50 | ralfWORK | just buy a new one every month or whenever you run out of content |
| 18:28.56 | art3mis | i mean take shadowmoon valley for instance |
| 18:29.09 | art3mis | when was the alst time you went to play with the naga? |
| 18:29.15 | art3mis | or the giants |
| 18:29.17 | ralfWORK | I don't like nagas :( |
| 18:29.33 | ralfWORK | but you're suggesting more world coverage... |
| 18:29.36 | Maldivia | Tem: looks nifty :) |
| 18:29.37 | art3mis | or had to kill the mother ravager |
| 18:29.43 | ralfWORK | I guess that could be good |
| 18:29.55 | ralfWORK | I think the daily quests were an attempt at that |
| 18:30.07 | art3mis | yeah, i dont care if the quests are simple or hard just that the exist for more eploration for more fun |
| 18:30.13 | Falcon213 | boo on daily quests |
| 18:30.18 | art3mis | dailys had the drawback of becoming a grind |
| 18:30.22 | art3mis | with no variation |
| 18:30.28 | ralfWORK | no shit they do |
| 18:30.29 | Falcon213 | yes, exactly |
| 18:30.35 | ralfWORK | I don't do them |
| 18:30.40 | ralfWORK | did them for a month or so when they came out |
| 18:30.48 | art3mis | now if they had say 10 daily quests and you could choose 2 to do and one wasnt obviously better than the other.. |
| 18:30.48 | ralfWORK | I know people who do them every day on 3 toons |
| 18:30.51 | Falcon213 | I find my self killing enemy players more than doing the quests when I go to do them |
| 18:30.51 | ralfWORK | I'd /wrist before that |
| 18:31.28 | art3mis | or if those 10 dailies could lead to other area quests which in turn lead to other dailies |
| 18:31.37 | art3mis | adding quests isnt that hard |
| 18:31.46 | ralfWORK | heh |
| 18:31.49 | art3mis | and throwing in say 2-3 each maint wouldnt be that difficult |
| 18:32.01 | ralfWORK | nor is making old instances heroic ;) |
| 18:32.04 | ralfWORK | HEROIC VC BABY |
| 18:32.09 | Falcon213 | lmao |
| 18:32.09 | Josh_Borke | says you |
| 18:32.12 | art3mis | if you did it right you could essentially make the time sink grinding is withuot anyone noticing |
| 18:32.27 | art3mis | actually retuning old instances is rather hard |
| 18:32.33 | Keias | http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/27/auction-set-for-michael-jacksons-neverland/?hp |
| 18:32.35 | Keias | Awesome |
| 18:32.38 | art3mis | mostly because of the need to player tets them |
| 18:32.40 | Keias | Someone buy me Neverland ranch |
| 18:32.42 | Maldivia | heroic gnomeregan... eww... |
| 18:32.47 | art3mis | hah |
| 18:32.48 | ralfWORK | heroic BRD |
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| 18:32.53 | art3mis | heroic uldaman |
| 18:32.54 | ralfWORK | everyone's favorite instance |
| 18:33.04 | ralfWORK | heroic mara would make me cry sweet tears of jesus :( |
| 18:33.18 | Keias | Heroic Princess runs would be awesome though |
| 18:33.22 | Keias | I hope they'd put her in topless |
| 18:33.25 | krka | nice clad|office you got a thanks from roberto |
| 18:33.34 | ralfWORK | Keias: hahahaha |
| 18:37.20 | Tem | I would _NEVER_ |
| 18:37.22 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:37.26 | Tem | do a heroic BRD |
| 18:37.30 | Tem | FUCK THAT INSTANCE |
| 18:37.36 | Tem | fuck it in hell |
| 18:37.38 | Tem | FOREVER |
| 18:37.41 | Lopeppeppy | Ah, no heroic Emperor runs? *shudder* |
| 18:37.48 | ralfWORK | rofl |
| 18:37.52 | Tem | Lopeppeppy, only if you want it to take 7 hours |
| 18:38.13 | Maldivia | hmm... wonder how the flame room on heroic would be... |
| 18:38.31 | nevcairiel | BRD really sucks |
| 18:38.35 | Keias | Heroic Lyceum would be awesome |
| 18:38.37 | nevcairiel | but heroic DM or so would be fin |
| 18:38.40 | Keias | Or however it was spelled :( |
| 18:38.44 | nevcairiel | *fun |
| 18:38.48 | ralfWORK | you know I might be the only person who likes BRD :( |
| 18:38.54 | Keias | I like SOME of it |
| 18:39.00 | Keias | Just not the whole thing |
| 18:43.15 | ralfWORK | *shrug* |
| 18:43.22 | ralfWORK | I guess for me |
| 18:43.30 | ralfWORK | it was the first place that had that dungeony feel |
| 18:43.47 | ralfWORK | because... well... it had groaning prisoners when you walk through the door |
| 18:43.50 | ralfWORK | *shrug* |
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| 18:47.43 | Lunessa | ... station! |
| 18:47.52 | ralfWORK | so I'm dying to know |
| 18:47.59 | ralfWORK | why is that your entrance? |
| 18:48.03 | Lopeppeppy | Heyo, Lunessa. |
| 18:48.11 | ralfWORK | is it the same station as in bill and ted's? |
| 18:48.40 | Lunessa | http://imdb.com/title/tt0101452/ |
| 18:49.02 | ralfWORK | ok that's what I figured, I just wanted to make sure :D |
| 18:49.28 | Keias | I loved that movie |
| 18:49.33 | Keias | I haven't seen that in like 10 years :( |
| 18:49.38 | ralfWORK | it was great |
| 18:49.55 | ralfWORK | whenever I grumble "station" to my wife, she hits me though |
| 18:50.06 | Keias | Shouldn't have told her where it was fun! |
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| 18:51.53 | Keias | from * even |
| 18:51.59 | Keias | Lack of sleep messes with my brain. |
| 18:52.05 | Lunessa | I just like the part where the leathered-out rocker comes in and yells "STATION!" |
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| 18:53.29 | oreth| | guys. |
| 18:53.34 | oreth| | flu season is on big time |
| 18:53.36 | Tem | Maldivia, NOTE: This is only for Patch 2.4, it will not work on anything below that. |
| 18:53.39 | Tem | mt |
| 18:53.40 | oreth| | 15 of my developers are out today |
| 18:53.46 | oreth| | take care of yourselfs |
| 18:53.50 | Tem | Maldivia, http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8287-ChatIcons.html |
| 18:53.54 | oreth| | s/yourselfs/yourselves/ |
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| 18:54.24 | ralfWORK | oreth|: thanks |
| 18:55.02 | oreth| | get plenty of sleep, plenty of vitamin C, the flu vaccines this year were incorrectly calculated for the strains that are going around |
| 18:56.38 | Lunessa | I've already been victim. |
| 18:58.05 | oreth| | Co-worker's 4 month old got both A and B strains last week |
| 18:58.10 | oreth| | then he got it |
| 18:58.12 | oreth| | then his wife |
| 18:58.15 | oreth| | and then his mom... |
| 18:59.31 | ralfWORK | gross |
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| 19:34.46 | TecnoBrat|Work | oreth|: how many developers do you have? |
| 19:37.00 | ralfWORK | hmm anyone have a good article discussing the value of ignore armor? |
| 19:37.37 | [dRaCo] | most melees go with 4 armor ignore == 1 AP |
| 19:37.43 | ralfWORK | oh ya? |
| 19:37.48 | ralfWORK | in a raid setting? |
| 19:38.04 | [dRaCo] | yeah |
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| 19:38.13 | ralfWORK | interesting. k. |
| 19:39.11 | ralfWORK | you said most... any specific exceptions/specs that should be noted? |
| 19:39.57 | [dRaCo] | the more you got, the better it becomes |
| 19:40.12 | ralfWORK | ah right, ok |
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| 19:42.19 | [dRaCo] | trying to find a thread about this stuff, gimme a minute |
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| 19:50.51 | [dRaCo] | ralfWORK: here's a thread that calculates the difference between mongoose and executioner, some good math there: http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t17078-raid_executioner_vs_mongoose_preliminary_numbers/ |
| 19:51.11 | ralfWORK | oh that old arguement heh |
| 19:51.39 | [FFG]Irq | Hey, I just started learning to make addons. I made a simple draggable frame. Somehow the position of the frame is being saved through sessions without using any saved variables. Anyone who can tell me where the position of the frame saved? |
| 19:52.00 | [FFG]Irq | is saved* |
| 19:53.45 | pastamancer | [FFG]Irq: in OnDragStop, call frame:SetUserPlaced(false) |
| 19:54.48 | pastamancer | it's saved in ... layout-cache.txt |
| 19:55.12 | pastamancer | WTF/Account/ACCOUNTNAME/Server/Character/layout-cache.txt |
| 19:56.07 | Lunessa | pastamancer: Do you play on Mac OSX or Linux? |
| 19:56.20 | pastamancer | OSX |
| 19:56.25 | pastamancer | and windows sometimes |
| 19:56.30 | Lunessa | Thought so. |
| 19:56.41 | [FFG]Irq | Ok thanks a lot :) I was just wondering since I wanted to save the position but found out it already did that. |
| 19:57.04 | pastamancer | then ignore what I said about SetUserPlaced(false) |
| 19:57.19 | pastamancer | that'll prevent it from being saved in layout-cache.txt |
| 19:57.32 | [FFG]Irq | okay |
| 20:02.49 | [FFG]Irq | Is the book book in the topic worth buying? :o |
| 20:03.02 | Cidan | Depends on how you learn |
| 20:03.12 | Cidan | and also if you love clad |
| 20:04.33 | [FFG]Irq | I don't know clad, I only know that he is at the office :o |
| 20:05.06 | TecnoBrat|Work | then you do know him |
| 20:05.23 | Cidan | It really depends on how you learn, what type of programmer you are, and so forth |
| 20:06.09 | TecnoBrat|Work | I've personally never learned from a book |
| 20:06.22 | Lunessa | Clad and Cog have poured a lot of work into it. |
| 20:06.28 | Maul | Clad's portal on WoWI - http://www.wowinterface.com/portal.php?id=8 if you want to know which addons are his |
| 20:06.48 | Lunessa | I'm getting a copy, not to have a tutorial, but to support them getting to write another book. :) |
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| 20:06.58 | Lunessa | Hey Maul, Nice to see you here. |
| 20:07.08 | Maul | Hiya Lunessa :) |
| 20:07.26 | |pez| | Woo. homemadeish meatball thingies! |
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| 20:08.13 | [FFG]Irq | Well the main problem for me seems to be figuring what everything is called and how to use it. I'm a php programmer and it's always easy to find what you need on php.net for instance. |
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| 20:09.43 | [FFG]Irq | I was thinking of making some small addon for coordinates to begin with, but how do I find out anything about coordinates? :o |
| 20:09.59 | Maul | wowiki.com |
| 20:10.06 | Lunessa | [FFG]Irq: Install the AddOn kit and extract the UI - then browse the FrameXML folder. |
| 20:10.12 | Maul | err, wowwiki.com |
| 20:11.24 | Cidan | [FFG]Irq: Well, wowwiki.com has the entire API. If you want a quick tutorial on how to use it |
| 20:11.33 | Cidan | http://www.conspiracy-ui.com/lua |
| 20:11.43 | Cidan | Not that I'm shamelessly plugging my own site or anything |
| 20:11.54 | |pez| | ofcourse not. |
| 20:12.03 | Maul | I sense a conspiracy... |
| 20:13.03 | [FFG]Irq | Ok, say I want to display the current player coordinates in the chat. What would I search for on wowwiki? |
| 20:14.04 | Maul | http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API#Mapping_Functions for the data... |
| 20:14.06 | Cidan | [FFG]Irq: Look at mah tutorial, promise it'll lead you into the right way |
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| 20:15.07 | Maul | http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API#Communication_Functions for the chat stuff |
| 20:15.28 | [FFG]Irq | Thanks Maul |
| 20:15.37 | [FFG]Irq | And Cidan, will go read it :D |
| 20:22.00 | Esamynn|Work | I would just like to say that today's Ctrl+Alt+Del comic is awesome, that is all http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php?d=20080227 |
| 20:22.39 | Mr_Rabies3 | 4chan's ddosing cad |
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| 20:25.46 | kergoth | Esamynn|Work: hahah |
| 20:27.31 | Cidan | 4chan was doing the same to PA |
| 20:29.33 | Lunessa | 4chan - self-appointed pricks fucking the rest of the internet for no valid reason. |
| 20:31.13 | mikma | ok, heres for you folks too: http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/dirty_mind.png |
| 20:31.16 | |pez| | . http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3212/2294961341_8c22195077_o.gif |
| 20:31.47 | Cidan | lua> print(1/3+1/3+1/3); |
| 20:31.47 | lua_bot | Cidan: 1 |
| 20:31.50 | kd3 | lmao |
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| 20:32.10 | Cidan | lua> print(1/3+1/3+1/3); print(.3+.3+.3); |
| 20:32.10 | lua_bot | Cidan: 1, 0.9 |
| 20:32.21 | Cidan | I'M DOING SCIENCE AND IM STILL ALIVE |
| 20:32.50 | Lunessa | |pez|: Very funny find. |
| 20:33.16 | |pez| | Lunessa: random post from another place... |
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| 20:33.33 | |pez| | I thought I'd just post it here. |
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| 20:34.09 | Cidan | Wow that rocks. |
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| 20:36.29 | sag_ich_nicht | okay someone tell me how to optimize this: |
| 20:37.30 | art3mis | models or action figures |
| 20:39.02 | sag_ich_nicht | [A AND B AND C AND D] [ [E OR NOT A OR [A AND NOT C]] AND F] |
| 20:39.06 | sag_ich_nicht | everything that returns true is printed |
| 20:39.17 | Lunessa | art3mis: They're the official WoW "action" figures, but really they're more like statuettes. |
| 20:40.01 | art3mis | wow |
| 20:40.03 | art3mis | umm |
| 20:40.07 | art3mis | are they out of the box? |
| 20:40.20 | art3mis | and do you scream at any of them during raids? |
| 20:40.39 | [FFG]Irq | Cidan, nice tutorial, actualy seems to be much easier than using XML files. |
| 20:42.00 | Shirik|Ecole | hi sag_ich_nicht |
| 20:42.37 | sag_ich_nicht | shirik do a k-map for me because i'm too lazy |
| 20:43.04 | Shirik|Ecole | rofl |
| 20:43.05 | Shirik|Ecole | are you serious? |
| 20:43.08 | Shirik|Ecole | those things are so easy |
| 20:43.11 | sag_ich_nicht | i know |
| 20:43.13 | sag_ich_nicht | i did them |
| 20:43.13 | Shirik|Ecole | what, for that expression above? |
| 20:43.32 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah D: |
| 20:43.42 | Shirik|Ecole | you want me to simplify that for you or? |
| 20:44.12 | Shirik|Ecole | wtf |
| 20:44.13 | sag_ich_nicht | i'd be glad if you did. it's the "simple" form of this: [IsPlayerOrPet ? IsFriend ? SureHP ? FractionalHP:Short] [ [IsEnemy | ~IsPlayerOrPet | [IsPlayerOrPet ? ~SureHP]] ? PercentHP:Percent] |
| 20:44.21 | Shirik|Ecole | you want me to write a K map for a 6 variable expression? |
| 20:44.21 | Shirik|Ecole | screw that |
| 20:44.30 | Shirik|Ecole | do it with algebra |
| 20:44.48 | End | ugh, the forums search is worthless |
| 20:45.07 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik: i could, if i wouldn't have forgotten how to do it. you could also make my brain remember and i'll do it myself |
| 20:45.21 | Shirik|Ecole | heh actually |
| 20:45.24 | Shirik|Ecole | 6 isn't too too bad |
| 20:45.27 | Shirik|Ecole | writing the kmaps now |
| 20:45.34 | sag_ich_nicht | :D |
| 20:45.52 | sag_ich_nicht | actually hold |
| 20:46.03 | sag_ich_nicht | those are two expressions |
| 20:46.12 | sag_ich_nicht | i am just too stupid to understand dogtags |
| 20:46.19 | Shirik|Ecole | .... |
| 20:46.23 | sag_ich_nicht | [ [E OR NOT A OR [A AND NOT C]] AND F] |
| 20:46.27 | Shirik|Ecole | so that one |
| 20:46.27 | sag_ich_nicht | that is all that needs optimization :P |
| 20:46.29 | Shirik|Ecole | ok |
| 20:46.36 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah the other one is pretty much done already :P |
| 20:47.07 | sag_ich_nicht | actually i'm not sure if that one isn't already optimal as it is |
| 20:47.14 | sag_ich_nicht | but i kind of doubt it |
| 20:47.17 | Shirik|Ecole | --> function test(a,c,e,f) return (e or not a or (a and not c) and f) end |
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| 20:48.02 | Shirik|Ecole | --> return test(false, false, false, false), test(false, false, false, true), test(false, false, true, true), test(false, false, true, false) |
| 20:48.03 | batbot | Shirik|Ecole: > true, true, true, true |
| 20:48.50 | Shirik|Ecole | --> return test(false, true, false, false), test(false, true, false, true), test(false, true, true, true), test(false, true, true, false) |
| 20:48.51 | batbot | Shirik|Ecole: > true, true, true, true |
| 20:48.56 | Shirik|Ecole | oh wow |
| 20:48.59 | Shirik|Ecole | this can be simplified a lot |
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| 20:49.32 | Shirik|Ecole | --> return test(true, true, false, false), test(true, true, false, true), test(true, true, true, true), test(true, true, true, false) |
| 20:49.33 | batbot | Shirik|Ecole: > false, false, true, true |
| 20:49.48 | Shirik|Ecole | --> return test(true, false, false, false), test(true, false, false, true), test(true, true, false, true), test(true, false, true, false) |
| 20:49.48 | batbot | Shirik|Ecole: > false, true, false, true |
| 20:49.55 | Shirik|Ecole | ah boo |
| 20:49.59 | Shirik|Ecole | that's going to really screw things up |
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| 20:50.56 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik: F is always true btw. fyi, but still needs to be present in it otherwise the dogtag won't work afterwards :> |
| 20:51.00 | Shirik|Ecole | ok well I simplified it |
| 20:51.16 | sag_ich_nicht | what did you come up with :O |
| 20:51.34 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm still trying to figure out this last component |
| 20:51.37 | Shirik|Ecole | because it involves an xor |
| 20:51.38 | Shirik|Ecole | can you use that? |
| 20:52.08 | sag_ich_nicht | probably not. i mean i'd LOVE to use one, but ckknight probably didn't implement XOR in dogtag |
| 20:52.30 | Shirik|Ecole | meh |
| 20:52.39 | Shirik|Ecole | this this isn't going to look much simpler |
| 20:52.44 | Shirik|Ecole | That last component is the really ugly part |
| 20:52.46 | sag_ich_nicht | i doubt there is anything besides AND OR and NOT |
| 20:53.05 | sag_ich_nicht | but i might be wrong |
| 20:53.20 | Shirik|Ecole | where did you get "F is always true" |
| 20:53.23 | Shirik|Ecole | that's not true |
| 20:53.42 | Shirik|Ecole | --> test(true, false, true, true) |
| 20:53.43 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik: it's always true because it's actually a return value it is true if it isn't nil |
| 20:53.43 | batbot | Shirik|Ecole: > true |
| 20:53.46 | Shirik|Ecole | oops |
| 20:53.59 | Shirik|Ecole | ahhh |
| 20:54.02 | Shirik|Ecole | that makes the map so much easier |
| 20:54.02 | Shirik|Ecole | yey |
| 20:54.04 | sag_ich_nicht | and since that return value is HP |
| 20:54.12 | Shirik|Ecole | ok |
| 20:54.13 | Shirik|Ecole | this is easy |
| 20:54.14 | sag_ich_nicht | it can't be nil |
| 20:54.14 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 20:54.47 | Shirik|Ecole | 'A + F + AC'E'F |
| 20:54.59 | sag_ich_nicht | o_O |
| 20:55.08 | Shirik|Ecole | i.e., NOT A OR F OR (A AND NOT C AND NOT E AND F) |
| 20:55.17 | sag_ich_nicht | lemme try |
| 20:55.21 | Shirik|Ecole | I can show you the map if you want |
| 20:55.36 | Cidan | Shirik|Ecole: OH BABY YOUUUUUUUUU |
| 20:55.36 | malreth | http://garfieldminusgarfield.tumblr.com/post/27158539 |
| 20:55.41 | Cidan | YOU GOT WHAT I NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDD |
| 20:55.47 | Cidan | BUT YOU SAID SHE'S JUST A FRIENDDDD |
| 20:55.55 | Cidan | BUT YOU SAID SHE'S JUST A FRRRRRRRIIIEEEENNDDD |
| 20:56.06 | malreth | OH BABY YOUUUUUU!!!!!! |
| 20:56.06 | sag_ich_nicht | no i believe you, i just wonder if it will work when i find replace'd everything too :P |
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| 20:59.17 | Shirik|Ecole | sag_ich_nicht: K-map of the set: http://wowi.pastey.net/83041 |
| 20:59.29 | sag_ich_nicht | nice work |
| 20:59.50 | sag_ich_nicht | i bet it'll break |
| 20:59.57 | sag_ich_nicht | and then i will have discovered some horrible bug |
| 21:00.01 | sag_ich_nicht | and ckknight will stab me |
| 21:00.23 | Shirik|Ecole | kek |
| 21:00.30 | Shirik|Ecole | Also, did you really mean "F is always true" ? |
| 21:00.38 | Shirik|Ecole | If that's the case I can make it even simpler |
| 21:00.42 | sag_ich_nicht | yes, it can't be false |
| 21:00.47 | sag_ich_nicht | well, theoretically it could |
| 21:00.54 | sag_ich_nicht | if blizz were to ever implement something |
| 21:00.56 | sag_ich_nicht | that has no HP |
| 21:00.58 | Shirik|Ecole | oh wait, that's irrelevant |
| 21:00.59 | Shirik|Ecole | nm |
| 21:01.04 | Shirik|Ecole | well no |
| 21:01.07 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm sorry, I can make it simpler |
| 21:01.23 | sag_ich_nicht | np i'm the one bothering you here but i know you enjoy doing that :P |
| 21:02.25 | Shirik|Ecole | so I can effectively remove F from the table |
| 21:02.27 | Shirik|Ecole | right? |
| 21:03.32 | sag_ich_nicht | probably, i'll have to append it as AND F at the end tho so yeah i think you can |
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| 21:04.25 | Shirik|Ecole | you uh |
| 21:04.28 | Shirik|Ecole | can' really do that :P |
| 21:04.43 | Shirik|Ecole | but if I can remove the F from the table, then it becomes as simple as "A' + E" |
| 21:04.45 | Shirik|Ecole | that is, NOT A OR E |
| 21:05.34 | sag_ich_nicht | ~IsPlayerOrPet OR IsEnemy... hold on. |
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| 21:06.16 | Shirik|Ecole | there's a strange case in that F table, that's why I didn't remove it earlier |
| 21:06.32 | Shirik|Ecole | 1101 is false, but 1001 is true |
| 21:06.35 | Shirik|Ecole | (ACEF) |
| 21:07.04 | Shirik|Ecole | and then |
| 21:07.08 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm, the one from before results in this: [~IsPlayerOrPet | PercentHP:Percent | [IsPlayerOrPet ? ~SureHP ? ~IsEnemy ? PercentHP:Percent]] |
| 21:07.09 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 21:07.13 | sag_ich_nicht | lemme check that in the sandbox |
| 21:07.18 | sag_ich_nicht | i bet it breaks horribly |
| 21:07.49 | Shirik|Ecole | heh |
| 21:08.00 | Shirik|Ecole | well there is a condition in your statement that does NOT rely on F |
| 21:08.06 | Shirik|Ecole | which is why there's this discrepency |
| 21:08.12 | Shirik|Ecole | 1100 is false, but 1110 is true |
| 21:08.32 | Shirik|Ecole | Now if you can guarantee that neither of these will ever happen because F is always 1, you can get rid of them :) |
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| 21:09.56 | sag_ich_nicht | ~fail ckknight |
| 21:09.57 | purl | ckknight: Fail. |
| 21:10.13 | Shirik|Ecole | let me show you my updated table |
| 21:10.16 | Shirik|Ecole | so you can double check it |
| 21:11.22 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik either you fail at that table or ckknight you fail at properly implementing logical operators in DogTag |
| 21:12.04 | ralfWORK | http://www.flickr.com/photos/hhr/2177258522/ hehehehe |
| 21:13.17 | Shirik|Ecole | or you fail at telling me your requirements :) |
| 21:13.29 | sag_ich_nicht | no look |
| 21:13.36 | Shirik|Ecole | Trust me I know k maps like the back of my hand :) |
| 21:13.38 | sag_ich_nicht | [22:04] <@Shirik|Ecole> but if I can remove the F from the table, then it becomes as simple as "A' + E" <--this |
| 21:13.38 | Shirik|Ecole | http://wowi.pastey.net/83044 |
| 21:13.39 | sag_ich_nicht | works |
| 21:13.48 | Shirik|Ecole | Then the above pastey that I just linked works |
| 21:13.57 | Shirik|Ecole | assuming I got all those test cases right |
| 21:14.26 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah thus: ckknight fails |
| 21:14.59 | sag_ich_nicht | [~IsPlayerOrPet | IsEnemy ? PercentHP:Percent] should return the same as [~IsPlayerOrPet | PercentHP:Percent | [IsPlayerOrPet ? ~SureHP ? ~IsEnemy ? PercentHP:Percent]] unless i fail horribly at find & replace |
| 21:16.37 | Shirik|Ecole | --> test(false, false, false, true), test(false, false, true, true), test(false, true, false, true), test(false, true, true, true), test(true, true, false, true), test(true,true,true, true), test(true,false,false, true), test(true,false,true,true) |
| 21:16.37 | batbot | Shirik|Ecole: > true, true, true, true, false, true, true, true |
| 21:16.44 | Shirik|Ecole | oops |
| 21:16.47 | Shirik|Ecole | hrm |
| 21:17.04 | Shirik|Ecole | one of my tests was wrong |
| 21:17.06 | sag_ich_nicht | looks like you fucked up rocket boy |
| 21:17.17 | Shirik|Ecole | there's a 1 at AC'E' |
| 21:17.22 | Shirik|Ecole | let's fix that |
| 21:17.23 | Shirik|Ecole | no big deal |
| 21:17.28 | Shirik|Ecole | It makes it even simplerl |
| 21:17.29 | Shirik|Ecole | lol |
| 21:17.39 | Shirik|Ecole | (ACE')' |
| 21:17.44 | Shirik|Ecole | NOT (A AND C AND NOT E) |
| 21:17.59 | sag_ich_nicht | LOL best abrevation ever |
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| 21:18.03 | Shirik|Ecole | rofl |
| 21:18.06 | Shirik|Ecole | no pun intended >< |
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| 21:19.26 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik: actually that doesn't work because i can't put a NOT in front of the damn thing |
| 21:19.32 | Shirik|Ecole | rofl |
| 21:19.40 | Shirik|Ecole | yeah |
| 21:19.44 | Shirik|Ecole | I had actually already did that |
| 21:19.48 | Shirik|Ecole | it started as the compliment of that |
| 21:19.53 | Shirik|Ecole | but I recognized it was simpler to write it this way |
| 21:20.29 | Shirik|Ecole | the K-map output is actually E'+A'+AC' |
| 21:20.40 | sag_ich_nicht | no that doesn't work either |
| 21:20.45 | Shirik|Ecole | then you really fail :P |
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| 21:21.40 | sag_ich_nicht | i get false as result when i should get true if A and C and E are true |
| 21:21.53 | Shirik|Ecole | for a=0,1 do for c=0,1 do for e=0,1 do print(test(a==1,c==1,e==1,true)) end |
| 21:21.56 | Shirik|Ecole | --> for a=0,1 do for c=0,1 do for e=0,1 do print(test(a==1,c==1,e==1,true)) end |
| 21:22.00 | Shirik|Ecole | :< |
| 21:22.01 | batbot | Shirik|Ecole: @ [string " for a=0,1 do for c=0,1 do for e=0,1 do print(test(a==1,c==1,e=..."]:1: 'end' expected near '<eof>' |
| 21:22.03 | Shirik|Ecole | there we go |
| 21:22.09 | Shirik|Ecole | --> for a=0,1 do for c=0,1 do for e=0,1 do print(test(a==1,c==1,e==1,true)) end end end |
| 21:22.10 | batbot | Shirik|Ecole: truetruetruetruetruetruefalsetrue |
| 21:22.16 | Shirik|Ecole | o.o what's with the blocks? |
| 21:22.21 | sag_ich_nicht | i dunno |
| 21:22.24 | sag_ich_nicht | bug in batbot probably |
| 21:22.24 | ralfWORK | tabs! |
| 21:22.30 | Shirik|Ecole | ow, stupid batbot |
| 21:22.34 | Shirik|Ecole | anyway, that output is slightly backwards |
| 21:22.39 | Shirik|Ecole | because the kmap should be inverted |
| 21:22.42 | ralfWORK | I see tab people :( |
| 21:22.52 | Shirik|Ecole | but regardless... IF YOU CAN AGREE THAT F IS ALWAYS TRUE that is correct |
| 21:23.03 | Lopeppeppy | IT'S FALSE! |
| 21:23.23 | Shirik|Ecole | --> test = function(a,c,e) return ((e or not a or (a and not c))) end |
| 21:23.28 | Shirik|Ecole | --> for a=0,1 do for c=0,1 do for e=0,1 do print(test(a==1,c==1,e==1,true)) end end end |
| 21:23.29 | batbot | Shirik|Ecole: truetruetruetruetruetruefalsetrue |
| 21:23.35 | Shirik|Ecole | yeah, it's definitely right. |
| 21:23.51 | Shirik|Ecole | I've double checked it about 8 times by now :P |
| 21:24.16 | Shirik|Ecole | <3 kmaps |
| 21:24.21 | Shirik|Ecole | whomever invented them should be a god |
| 21:24.27 | Shirik|Ecole | must be that karnaugh guy |
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| 21:25.22 | Shirik|Ecole | and my understanding, sag_ich_nicht, is that F == "has hp" |
| 21:25.25 | Shirik|Ecole | which is always true, right? |
| 21:25.31 | Shirik|Ecole | Sorry I don't understand anything about dogtag |
| 21:25.44 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik: yes |
| 21:25.56 | sag_ich_nicht | F=has hp, and that is true even if the hp=0 |
| 21:27.41 | sag_ich_nicht | what the fuck |
| 21:27.52 | sag_ich_nicht | "A' + E" worked |
| 21:27.54 | sag_ich_nicht | now it doesn't |
| 21:27.55 | sag_ich_nicht | what the hell |
| 21:30.06 | sag_ich_nicht | fuck this |
| 21:30.10 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: you fail at writing dogtags |
| 21:30.13 | sag_ich_nicht | I'll just use the super complex version of this: [Status] | [IsPlayerOrPet ? IsFriend ? SureHP ? FractionalHP:Short] [ [IsEnemy | ~IsPlayerOrPet | [IsPlayerOrPet ? ~SureHP]] ? PercentHP:Percent] |
| 21:30.35 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: we just fucking solved it with a k-map, you fail at properly implementing them and/or documenting the operators properly |
| 21:30.36 | ckknight | why don't you use the ternary syntax? |
| 21:30.46 | Shirik|Ecole | ~irc |
| 21:30.46 | purl | "Welcome to IRC: where the men are men, the women are men, and the little girls are FBI agents." |
| 21:31.12 | Shirik|Ecole | ignore that :P |
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| 21:31.24 | ralfWORK | rofl |
| 21:31.28 | ralfWORK | it's true though |
| 21:31.43 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: ternary snytax? :P |
| 21:31.46 | sag_ich_nicht | *syntax |
| 21:31.52 | ckknight | [Alpha ? Bravo ! Charlie] |
| 21:31.57 | ckknight | it's an if-then-else |
| 21:32.29 | Shirik|Ecole | ckknight: Before he claims this is a bug, I just want to point out I just solved the logic expression, he wrote the dog tag :) |
| 21:32.37 | Shirik|Ecole | if he wrote it wrong it's his fault, I don't know how to check it :p |
| 21:32.44 | Shirik|Ecole | Not to say that he DID write it wrong though |
| 21:32.53 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: i know that |
| 21:33.09 | ckknight | also, | has a lower order-of-operations priority than ? |
| 21:33.25 | sag_ich_nicht | y u do dis |
| 21:34.25 | ckknight | because ? works as both and as well as an if syntax |
| 21:34.31 | sag_ich_nicht | [[IsEnemy | ~IsPlayerOrPet | [IsPlayerOrPet ? ~SureHP]] ? PercentHP:Percent] this can be simplified to this, theoretically: [~IsPlayerOrPet ? ~SureHP ? PercentHP:Percent] |
| 21:34.33 | ckknight | I plan on fixing this with DogTag-3.0 |
| 21:34.51 | Shirik|Ecole | wait, ? is both "and" and "if"? |
| 21:35.03 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik: do you now see what i am plagued with? |
| 21:35.05 | Shirik|Ecole | oh, you mean it's both "and" and the ternary operator |
| 21:35.11 | ckknight | yea, Shirik|Ecole |
| 21:36.59 | Shirik|Ecole | ok I gotta head home |
| 21:37.06 | Shirik|Ecole | you all have fun figuring out the solution |
| 21:37.08 | Shirik|Ecole | glad to hear I wasn't wrong :D |
| 21:37.24 | Shirik|Ecole | I probably would have killed myself |
| 21:37.35 | ckknight | it's okay |
| 21:37.38 | ckknight | it was just your time |
| 21:38.39 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight YOU wasted it by not properly implementing the operators, you should change the documentation to reflect that | has a lower order-of-operations priority than ? |
| 21:39.16 | ckknight | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=11576.0 |
| 21:39.23 | ckknight | feel free to voice your concerns there |
| 21:43.35 | sag_ich_nicht | hmmm |
| 21:44.44 | ckknight | there's some good ideas in there to make it more sane |
| 21:45.14 | sag_ich_nicht | okay one question ckknight why does [IsPlayerOrPet ? IsFriend ? FractionalHP:Short] only work when i'm in range of the person? |
| 21:45.23 | sag_ich_nicht | with the person in my party |
| 21:45.24 | sag_ich_nicht | that is |
| 21:45.29 | ckknight | no idea |
| 21:45.32 | ckknight | that should work fine |
| 21:46.16 | sag_ich_nicht | doesn't. |
| 21:47.23 | ckknight | so file a jira ticket or something along those lines |
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| 21:48.01 | pastamancer | ckknight: your comment re: lists/cons in dogtag, was that in response to my multiple-if example or my In function? |
| 21:48.20 | ckknight | yes, I don't have an issue with multiple arguments |
| 21:48.34 | ckknight | but I don't want to have lists as their own entities in DogTag |
| 21:48.35 | ckknight | too overkill |
| 21:48.36 | ckknight | imho |
| 21:48.56 | pastamancer | I wouldn't advocate that |
| 21:49.31 | ScytheBlade1 | New PTR build eh |
| 21:49.46 | kd3 | already out? |
| 21:49.50 | pastamancer | I could see a "In" multi-comparator be handy, or even "EqualsAny" though |
| 21:49.54 | ScytheBlade1 | So the sticky says |
| 21:50.05 | Hjalte | New PTR now or coming up at some point? |
| 21:50.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, it's only been an hour |
| 21:50.16 | kd3 | ciient doesn't have it yet |
| 21:50.27 | Hjalte | Anything on what is new? |
| 21:50.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Probably a lifetap change, misc. bugfixes |
| 21:51.08 | Hjalte | LT change is exactly what I am interested in :) |
| 21:51.29 | ScytheBlade1 | I highly doubt that they'll revert the change outright - but I can see them adjusting the numbers |
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| 21:55.41 | ckknight | pastamancer: I'm not against having multiple arguments or even an arbitrary number of arguments, I just don't want list manipulation |
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| 21:56.00 | Shirik|Ecole | wow I love my school network |
| 21:56.38 | Shirik|Ecole | Connected to: anthony.freenode.net:6667 for 1 minute. Latency: 22794ms |
| 21:56.49 | oreth| | ... |
| 21:57.00 | sacarasc | lol |
| 21:57.02 | Shirik|Ecole | seems to be fixed now, but still |
| 21:57.04 | oreth| | mibbit? |
| 21:57.13 | Shirik|Ecole | no |
| 21:57.21 | kd3 | heh, my apartment complex is like that |
| 21:57.32 | Shirik|Ecole | kd3 |
| 21:57.34 | pastamancer | ckknight: I wouldn't recommend trying to do lisp-y list manipulation in lua, it just doesn't translate well |
| 21:57.39 | Shirik|Ecole | I know you never thought you'd hear something like this |
| 21:57.42 | ckknight | pastamancer: right |
| 21:57.45 | ckknight | okay then |
| 21:57.49 | Shirik|Ecole | but my network is so much worse than yours :P |
| 21:57.59 | kd3 | NOWAI |
| 21:58.19 | pastamancer | I'm not sure where I was endorsing linked-lists other than adopting a regular syntax and using lisp as an example |
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| 22:02.38 | Shirik|Ecole | soooooooo |
| 22:02.40 | Shirik|Ecole | as I was saying |
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| 22:02.47 | kd3 | eesh |
| 22:02.48 | Shirik|Ecole | sag_ich_nicht: Figured it out? |
| 22:03.54 | Gnarfoz | don't feed the troll |
| 22:03.55 | Gnarfoz | ;p |
| 22:03.57 | Shirik|Ecole | ~seen Thunder_Child |
| 22:04.01 | purl | thunder_child <i=Thunder_@cpe-76-171-184-46.socal.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 14d 13h 22m 35s ago, saying: 'ah, pussy of a different flavor'. |
| 22:04.02 | kd3 | I'm just glad I can at least do this: http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/4421/kd3netconnectioncv9.jpg |
| 22:04.06 | Shirik|Ecole | ~seen TC_Working |
| 22:04.07 | purl | tc_working <n=TC-Testi@38.118.158.211> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 285d 23h 11m 34s ago, saying: 'k, thanks'. |
| 22:04.14 | Shirik|Ecole | anyone know where TC's been |
| 22:04.19 | Shirik|Ecole | he just sent me an email so... |
| 22:04.23 | Shirik|Ecole | er, PM |
| 22:05.00 | Shirik|Ecole | kd3: holy shit |
| 22:05.14 | Shirik|Ecole | you are not a backbone server nor are you a beowulf cluster |
| 22:05.48 | kd3 | no, but my net addiction drove my and my CS roommates to ensure we had reasonable connectivity |
| 22:05.52 | Shirik|Ecole | heh |
| 22:05.55 | Shirik|Ecole | "reasonable" |
| 22:05.57 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik|Ecole http://jira.wowace.com/browse/PB-298 |
| 22:05.59 | kd3 | s/drove my/drove me/ |
| 22:06.39 | Shirik|Ecole | I demand credit for finding that bug |
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| 22:06.46 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik|Ecole: since ckknights implementation of OR and AND doesn't allow the simplifications you found to be used, i had to use rhe way more complex original... which resulted in that ticket |
| 22:07.23 | Shirik|Ecole | If it wasn't for my intricate knowledge of circuitry and boolean algebra I would not have been able to discover the solution |
| 22:07.25 | Shirik|Ecole | you should pay me |
| 22:08.51 | Shirik|Ecole | no? :( |
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| 22:10.33 | foxlit | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4822935263&sid=1 could probably use a bumb |
| 22:11.03 | kd3 | done |
| 22:11.47 | Shirik|Ecole | done |
| 22:11.48 | Shirik|Ecole | damn it |
| 22:12.08 | Shirik|Ecole | I just realized my timestamps were wrong |
| 22:12.15 | Shirik|Ecole | I thought kd3 posted that 5 hours ago :( |
| 22:12.49 | Shirik|Ecole | ok considering I think I just got disconnected again |
| 22:12.51 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm going to head home |
| 22:12.54 | Shirik|Ecole | bai |
| 22:13.08 | |Jelly| | ~hug shirik |
| 22:13.08 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs shirik |
| 22:14.15 | Lunessa | no wai! |
| 22:23.46 | Esamynn|Work | Shirik: I never looked at your forum sig before, I love this: "Shakespeare loved regexes too: /(bb|[^b]{2})/" =D |
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| 22:27.14 | Guillotine | If anybody happens to notice, would they please just ping me when PTR comes back up? |
| 22:27.32 | kd3 | sure |
| 22:27.56 | Guillotine | I really hope theres an update to implement UnitGUID :D |
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| 22:29.50 | [FFG]Irq | Are there any event that registers movement? For updating coordinates |
| 22:30.14 | Guillotine | nope |
| 22:30.25 | Guillotine | you're best off hooking the movement functions if you really want that |
| 22:30.31 | Guillotine | secure hook of course |
| 22:30.48 | [FFG]Irq | no idea what that means :o |
| 22:31.30 | Guillotine | actually, you might just be better off using OnUpdate and checking against the previous value to see if it moved |
| 22:32.22 | [FFG]Irq | ok thanks, I'll try |
| 22:32.24 | Guillotine | hooking is where you either make your function run just before another function (and intercept the arguments) or just after. Certain functions that are secure can only be post-hooked (making your function run just after). And you have to use hooksecurefunc to do that |
| 22:32.27 | pastamancer | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_hooksecurefunc |
| 22:33.28 | Guillotine | If you want to make whatever you're doing as efficient as possible, you would only register OnUpdate after a movement button was clicked and would de-register it when the user stops |
| 22:33.48 | Atriace | I really wish wowwiki split their search feature between code and game content. |
| 22:33.52 | Guillotine | and by register, I just mean SetScript("OnUpdate",...), not actually registering as an event |
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| 22:34.00 | Guillotine | Atriace: me too :( |
| 22:34.26 | Atriace | Search "obj:Hide()" |
| 22:34.31 | Atriace | return: Hide of the wild! |
| 22:35.21 | [FFG]Irq | think that stuff is still a bit to advanced for me :o |
| 22:35.46 | Guillotine | then just use OnUpdate and see if the position has changed :) |
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| 22:36.33 | wereHamster | [FFG]Irq, you could register OnMouseDown/OnMouseUp scripts on the frame to see when the user moves it |
| 22:36.47 | [FFG]Irq | yes, I'll do that, and will look into the other stuff at a later time |
| 22:36.53 | Atriace | [FFG]Irq: I tested the same idea earlier. There are no events that fire when you move, so yes. Just use OnUpdate and set the interval to something not obscene (like 1 second) |
| 22:36.57 | Guillotine | were: He's talking about player position, not mouse I believe |
| 22:37.17 | [FFG]Irq | yes, player to begin with |
| 22:37.24 | [FFG]Irq | seemed easier |
| 22:37.36 | Guillotine | Atriace: You can't set intervals except with a library like Ace |
| 22:37.56 | Atriace | Yes you can. Just do an if then test. |
| 22:38.00 | wereHamster | ah -.- |
| 22:38.00 | Guillotine | well, obviously you can do a time check, but... |
| 22:38.16 | Guillotine | Actually |
| 22:38.19 | Guillotine | heres an interesting way |
| 22:38.26 | Guillotine | What if you were to hook some functions with the World Map? |
| 22:38.27 | Atriace | http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Use_OnUpdate_correct |
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| 22:43.05 | zenzelezz | yay, peppy! |
| 22:43.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Mmm, 138 super mana pots |
| 22:43.23 | ScytheBlade1 | + 19 injectors |
| 22:43.31 | kd3 | eesh |
| 22:43.44 | ScytheBlade1 | The secret to my success? |
| 22:43.50 | ScytheBlade1 | I herb while I raid. |
| 22:44.01 | Atriace | So... SSC, eh? |
| 22:44.30 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, zenzelezz! |
| 22:44.41 | ScytheBlade1 | We just ganked Kael the other day, and have Vashj down, so |
| 22:44.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Soon enough, not anymore :) |
| 22:46.09 | Keias | A wild Lopeppeppy appears. |
| 22:48.08 | ScytheBlade1 | "i sheep that person useing decursive since my focus target is kael i will always be targeting kael" |
| 22:48.11 | ScytheBlade1 | What? |
| 22:48.33 | Lopeppeppy | I'm not wild. |
| 22:48.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: then you're in for a surprise |
| 22:49.49 | art3mis | if you're not wild you've had a very interesteding afternoon. |
| 22:49.50 | Keias | Well, it's not nearly as fuck when you're not, Lopeppeppy :( |
| 22:50.00 | art3mis | not nearly as fuck? |
| 22:50.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Wait, what? |
| 22:50.32 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:50.48 | kd3 | something on your mind there, keias? |
| 22:51.02 | Lunessa | Freudian slips FTW |
| 22:51.11 | art3mis | it's on the tip of his tongue kd3 ;P |
| 22:51.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: exactly what I was thinking |
| 22:52.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Note how he's all quiet now, too |
| 22:52.25 | Keias | fun* |
| 22:52.26 | Keias | lol |
| 22:52.26 | art3mis | embarassed or finishing up? |
| 22:52.27 | Keias | rofl |
| 22:52.32 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl |
| 22:52.37 | Keias | Was tabbing back and forth bitching about the fucking idiots in my EOTS :( |
| 22:52.38 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl @ art3mis that is |
| 22:52.46 | ScytheBlade1 | uh-huh |
| 22:52.47 | ScytheBlade1 | suuuuuuuuuuuure |
| 22:52.52 | ScytheBlade1 | We beleive you |
| 22:52.54 | Keias | brb need a tissue |
| 22:52.56 | ScytheBlade1 | *believe |
| 22:52.57 | Shirik | (17:23:10) (+Esamynn|Work) Shirik: I never looked at your forum sig before, I love this: "Shakespeare loved regexes too: /(bb|[^b]{2})/" =D |
| 22:52.59 | Lunessa | LOL |
| 22:53.00 | Shirik | <3 that :D |
| 22:53.57 | Lunessa | Would a compare by any other means be as sweet? |
| 22:55.17 | ScytheBlade1 | 146 mana pots! |
| 22:55.23 | Lunessa | Alas poor art3mis; I knew his Shirik. A man of infinite need for pix. |
| 22:55.24 | kd3 | oh wow... this is pretty broken... old news, I'm sure: http://garfieldminusgarfield.tumblr.com/ |
| 22:55.34 | Fisker- | you are ruining my wow forums kd3 |
| 22:56.59 | Fisker- | i'm gonna see to it that you get aids kd3 |
| 22:57.50 | kd3 | bah, need mroe caffeine. can't come up with an appropriate response to that |
| 22:58.19 | Atriace | Anyone know if NSOperation has been implimented for the Mac Client of WoW? |
| 22:58.54 | Shirik | NSOperation? |
| 23:00.00 | Atriace | It's a new feature in Leopard that handles multithreading. Basicly, rather than programmers having to spell out how many threads they're using for X amount of processors, they simply divy up the tasks and NSOperation utilizes however many threads your system has. |
| 23:00.13 | Atriace | ie., you've got 60 cores? No problem. bam |
| 23:00.26 | Shirik | uh |
| 23:00.31 | Shirik | and what OS is that implemented for? |
| 23:00.35 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 23:00.38 | Atriace | Leopard. |
| 23:00.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: you should go back to sleep |
| 23:00.43 | Shirik | before I get to the more critical question |
| 23:01.17 | Shirik | Because as far as I am aware, those OSes do not support that type of AMP anyway |
| 23:01.26 | Shirik | er, SMP |
| 23:01.51 | Shirik | XP, for example, no matter how hard you try will only work with 2 cores. Vista I believe is limited to 4 but I'd have to do research |
| 23:01.59 | Shirik | I'm sure MacOS has similar restrictions |
| 23:02.15 | ScytheBlade1 | OSX has no suck restrictions |
| 23:02.21 | Cide | I think vista is at least 16? |
| 23:02.24 | Cide | but I may be wrong |
| 23:02.32 | ScytheBlade1 | And further the Windows restrictions are lifted if you spend more money on a different licensed copy :P |
| 23:02.33 | Shirik | I said I'm not sure :) |
| 23:02.41 | Atriace | Hehe, yeah Scythblade is right, Shirik. |
| 23:02.52 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: For XP, that restriction exists, period. |
| 23:02.55 | Shirik | It's part of the implementation |
| 23:03.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: err disagree |
| 23:03.16 | Shirik | The only way you can get around it is with asymmetric multiprocessing |
| 23:03.28 | Guillotine | For me, Vista is limited to 2 cores |
| 23:03.32 | Guillotine | Because thats all I can afford :( |
| 23:03.51 | ScytheBlade1 | XP is limited to 2 cores. 2000 datacenter, using an older kernel, is not. |
| 23:04.06 | Shirik | there you go |
| 23:04.09 | ScytheBlade1 | It's purely a licensing restriction |
| 23:04.20 | Shirik | well is it using a different kernel? |
| 23:04.21 | Esamynn|Work | Vista is the newest, and currently the most evil of all of Satan's many minions |
| 23:04.33 | wereHamster | can one account be logged in into the PTR and live servers at the same time? |
| 23:04.39 | kd3 | yes |
| 23:04.44 | Shirik | Anyway, this is mostly irrelevant; on to the more important question |
| 23:04.46 | Guillotine | Esamynn: I disagree. Have you seen fox's Moment of Truth? Its newer |
| 23:04.46 | ScytheBlade1 | 2000 Datacenter is using an /older/ kernel than XP, and 2000 Datacenter can run 32 way SMP |
| 23:04.49 | Shirik | Why do you need that Atriace |
| 23:04.58 | wereHamster | cool, me and my brother can share one account then :) |
| 23:05.04 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: But if it was DESIGNED for that, it's obviously going to be able to do that |
| 23:05.05 | Atriace | I don't *need* it. I just wanted to know if they implimented it yet. |
| 23:05.13 | Shirik | If it WASN'T designed for it, then obviously it won't :) |
| 23:05.14 | Guillotine | They probably won't |
| 23:05.20 | Atriace | In 2006, they demoed NSOperation (on a beta of Leopard) with WoW at the DevConference. Framerates shot up from avg 60 FPS to something ridiculous (like 200+) |
| 23:05.20 | Guillotine | It would most likely require significant recoding |
| 23:05.26 | Guillotine | for a small portion of their userbase |
| 23:05.28 | Shirik | Atriace: Okay, that's what I was asking |
| 23:05.31 | Shirik | why you linked it to WoW |
| 23:05.38 | Atriace | ;) |
| 23:05.38 | Guillotine | ahh |
| 23:05.40 | Guillotine | interesting |
| 23:06.03 | Atriace | It's 2 lines of code, as long as you're app is properly parceling out its tasks into small chunks. |
| 23:06.12 | Shirik | Anyway, I don't find it that revolutionary |
| 23:06.23 | Shirik | QNX already does something similar, provided you know how to split your application correctly |
| 23:06.27 | Shirik | it's all about modular coding |
| 23:06.41 | Atriace | Does QNX run WoW? |
| 23:06.51 | Shirik | Doubtful |
| 23:06.54 | Shirik | It's not a GPOS |
| 23:06.59 | Shirik | It's an RTOS |
| 23:07.17 | Esamynn|Work | Guillotine: no, I have not, I don't watch Fox |
| 23:07.53 | Guillotine | well, it is just as evil as Vista |
| 23:08.00 | Guillotine | I think Vista would be satan's second newest creation |
| 23:08.04 | Shirik | hey |
| 23:08.05 | Shirik | I use Vista |
| 23:08.08 | Shirik | and i LIKE IT |
| 23:08.09 | Guillotine | Me too |
| 23:08.12 | Guillotine | eh |
| 23:08.12 | Esamynn|Work | ~lart Shirik |
| 23:08.12 | purl | hurls dozens of incontinent, insomniac, hungry kittens with tiny little razor-sharp claws and a wide variety of contagious intestinal parasites at Shirik |
| 23:08.15 | Guillotine | the security is a pain |
| 23:08.18 | Atriace | You know, I had hopes for Vista back when it was Longhorn. |
| 23:08.20 | Shirik | so turn it off, but I like it on |
| 23:08.28 | Guillotine | I keep it on because its secure |
| 23:08.33 | Shirik | I'm just sick of everyone complaining about Vista when mostly their complaints are due to the applications |
| 23:08.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: okay, make me look this up. 2000, 2000 Adv Server, 2000 Datacenter all use the same kernel. Limits: 4GB/8GB/32GB of RAM. 2003 web, 2003 standard, 2003 enterprise, and 2003 datacenter all use the same kernel. 2/4/32/64GB RAM limits. The same applies to CPUs. The ONLY difference between them? Cost, and a few flipped bytes in the kernel |
| 23:08.38 | Guillotine | but I wish it didn't wait 2-3 seconds every time it has to get clearance |
| 23:08.43 | Shirik | that is, the programmers that don't know how to code for Vista |
| 23:08.44 | Guillotine | thats my complaint |
| 23:08.48 | Shirik | third party programmers |
| 23:08.58 | Shirik | Rather, the programmers that have been following worst practices SINCE WINDOWS 2000 |
| 23:09.08 | Shirik | If you can't follow a recommended best practice, your program deserves to fail |
| 23:09.26 | Guillotine | I have no complaint on that end. My complaint is the damn wait it imposes every time an app needs permission to continue |
| 23:09.30 | Guillotine | rather than showing the dialog instantly |
| 23:09.33 | WobWork | hm |
| 23:09.36 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: Find those bytes for me >< |
| 23:09.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: well at least now you believe me ;P |
| 23:09.46 | WobWork | There's something about a reviewer that doesn't give a shit about the game |
| 23:09.53 | ScytheBlade1 | And secondly, it's not hard - run a binary diff |
| 23:09.54 | Shirik | how did they manage 32/64GB RAM limits? |
| 23:09.54 | WobWork | that makes me love Zero Punctuation |
| 23:09.57 | zenzelezz | bad programs are bad programs, that's natural. But the OS still insists on user permission to do a lot of stuff |
| 23:10.02 | Shirik | The CPU cannot address that many addresses |
| 23:10.10 | Shirik | unless they did some kind of 64 bit emulation |
| 23:10.13 | Esamynn|Work | uhhh |
| 23:10.17 | ScytheBlade1 | The problem comes in to the verification, as it compares your product key to what it's running, and further, the kernel is signed |
| 23:10.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Second, it's called PAE, Physical Address Extension |
| 23:10.30 | Esamynn|Work | Win 2003 is a 64 bit OS |
| 23:10.43 | ScytheBlade1 | 2000 isn't, and, it can hit 32GB |
| 23:10.46 | ScytheBlade1 | http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;555223 |
| 23:10.51 | Shirik | See, this is why I stick to microcontollers |
| 23:10.54 | Shirik | Screw microprocessors |
| 23:10.58 | Shirik | they're too... general |
| 23:11.15 | Drundia | If I'm not mistaken quite old CPUs already were addressing memory far more than those 32/64 GB |
| 23:11.25 | Shirik | uh... no |
| 23:11.29 | Shirik | you're mistaken :P |
| 23:11.35 | ScytheBlade1 | PAE is newer-ish |
| 23:11.40 | zenzelezz | define "quite old" |
| 23:11.42 | ScytheBlade1 | And it's a dirty hack, but itw orks |
| 23:11.50 | ScytheBlade1 | *it works |
| 23:11.52 | Esamynn|Work | ahh |
| 23:11.52 | Shirik | A CPU still can only address up to 4GB of memory at a time, but now that I've looked at PAE I see what they did |
| 23:11.54 | Cide | ScytheBlade1: it doesn't work :P |
| 23:11.57 | Drundia | Yes, I remember reading many years ago on Intel website that some of those CPUs are addressing memory around 80 GB |
| 23:11.58 | Fisker- | yay kd3 |
| 23:11.58 | Shirik | basically multiplexing RAM bays |
| 23:12.02 | Cide | at least it didn't for cog and me on xp |
| 23:12.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide: yeah pretty much ;P |
| 23:12.10 | Fisker- | george w. bush does care about european people |
| 23:12.13 | Drundia | That was something as old as Pentium II or even older... |
| 23:12.19 | Shirik | Drundia: Trust me, I know the internals of processors inside and out. It's quite a simple topic. There is no way to store that instruction code. |
| 23:12.28 | Shirik | Unless you multiplex the RAM bays, which has nothing to do with the CPU in the first place |
| 23:12.36 | Lunessa | Shirik: Have you run across problems under Vista of a User Account (Admin) being unable to initialize the Windows Installer service? |
| 23:12.41 | Shirik | Lunessa: Nope |
| 23:12.44 | Shirik | though sometimes it takes a bit of time |
| 23:13.04 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: That's an interesting little hack they came up with |
| 23:13.08 | Shirik | kinda an obvious one too |
| 23:13.11 | Lunessa | It's making me crazy right now. Can't figure out why it won't run - so I can't UNINSTALL anything. |
| 23:13.11 | Shirik | though an ugly one |
| 23:13.22 | Fisker- | The reason why PAE doesn't work post-2k is because of compatibility problems with the NX bit |
| 23:13.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: yeah, it can make programming with large amounts of RAM "fun" |
| 23:13.34 | wereHamster | interesting, obvious and ugly hack... |
| 23:13.46 | wereHamster | little, too |
| 23:14.11 | batrick | Shirik: kmaps r for freshman, real men simplify boolean algebra in their heads ;) |
| 23:14.20 | Shirik | Well I was going to do boolean algebra |
| 23:14.26 | Shirik | but I came up with an xor and he said he didn't want it |
| 23:14.33 | Shirik | so I gave up and did a kmap |
| 23:14.37 | ScytheBlade1 | But, that original point still stands. XP can likely run 4-way or maybe even 16/32-way SMP. It's straight licensing restrictions that prevent it from doing so, and MS's desire to get "more money" (because if you're really looking at 32-way SMP, you would have that kind of money) |
| 23:14.44 | batrick | what was the original eq btw? |
| 23:14.58 | Cidan | ScytheBlade1 is correct. |
| 23:15.11 | Shirik | [ [E OR NOT A OR [A AND NOT C]] AND F] |
| 23:15.16 | Cidan | the NT core used in XP can handle many CPU cores |
| 23:15.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, I've had the joy of licensing 2000, 2003, and 2003 Enterprise before |
| 23:15.27 | Cidan | s/NT core/NT kernel/ |
| 23:15.31 | ScytheBlade1 | (In addition to standard XP) |
| 23:15.33 | Shirik | However, batrick, it was later discovered that F is a don-tcare condition |
| 23:15.57 | Shirik | so use the above equation with only A, C, and E |
| 23:16.10 | Shirik | Cidan: Define "handle" |
| 23:16.20 | Shirik | mine can barely handle one core it seems |
| 23:16.20 | kd3 | whoops... PTRs are up, but still using the old build |
| 23:16.23 | Fisker- | moo: cpu: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz at 2405MHz (2% Load) |
| 23:16.28 | Cidan | as in |
| 23:16.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: use like it was simply 2-way SMP |
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| 23:16.37 | Cidan | it works just fine and as intended |
| 23:16.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup. |
| 23:16.42 | TecnoBrat|Work | http://pastebin.com/d6604febf |
| 23:16.43 | Cidan | the kernel supports it |
| 23:16.46 | TecnoBrat|Work | <3 the armory! |
| 23:16.48 | Shirik | intended to crash and burn every 30 minutes |
| 23:16.48 | Shirik | lol |
| 23:16.52 | Cidan | not at all |
| 23:17.03 | Shirik | That's what my XP seemed to do |
| 23:17.04 | ScytheBlade1 | It support full SMP quite well |
| 23:17.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Where "full" is anything from 2 to 16+ way |
| 23:17.45 | kd3 | has anyone played with bongos3 on the PTR? |
| 23:17.45 | Cidan | I don't remember what the upper limit is |
| 23:17.45 | Tuller | I have :P |
| 23:17.56 | Fisker- | Intel also did Skullfuck on a windows xp machine i believe |
| 23:18.00 | kd3 | how the hell do I add additional hotbars? |
| 23:18.03 | Fisker- | (skullfuck is nicer than skulltrail) |
| 23:18.10 | Tuller | unlock bars, hold down alt |
| 23:18.10 | kd3 | all I see is ab1. can't make 2+ |
| 23:18.12 | Tuller | click and drag |
| 23:18.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Cidan: the upper limit on the top end 2003 is 64 way iirc |
| 23:18.26 | Shirik | wtf 64 |
| 23:18.33 | ScytheBlade1 | And I think for 2008 they're shooting for 256 |
| 23:18.45 | Shirik | So much easier just to go asymmetric at that point |
| 23:18.56 | batrick | lol Shirik |
| 23:18.58 | Cidan | kinda |
| 23:19.00 | batrick | took like 10 seconds |
| 23:19.05 | Shirik | stfu |
| 23:19.07 | Shirik | I was in class |
| 23:19.12 | Shirik | and actually it didn't start with that |
| 23:19.15 | Shirik | that's the partially-simplified one |
| 23:19.22 | Shirik | You cheated |
| 23:19.29 | Shirik | Because sag_ich_nicht kept changing his terms! |
| 23:19.39 | Shirik | "Oh no wait, that's two expressions. Use this one." "Oh wait, F is always true" |
| 23:19.50 | sag_ich_nicht | [00:10] <ScytheBlade1> The problem comes in to the verification, as it compares your product key to what it's running, and further, the kernel is signed <--doesn't matter you can decrypt it in memory, for server 2003 at least(of course, that is highly illegal) |
| 23:19.56 | batrick | E + A' + AC' => (E + A' + C')'' => (E'*A*C)' |
| 23:19.57 | Cidan | I've been considering making a multi-CPU generic platform written in C for crunching large amounts of data in a safe and secure way using multiple cores, ie: physics code, whatever |
| 23:19.58 | batrick | zzz |
| 23:20.04 | Shirik | nublet |
| 23:20.17 | Shirik | Leave it as E+A'+C' |
| 23:20.18 | batrick | ya I know i'm jsut giving u a hard time ;) |
| 23:20.19 | Shirik | cmon |
| 23:20.22 | Shirik | that would be faster |
| 23:20.26 | batrick | I was putting it in your form |
| 23:20.35 | Shirik | (E'*A*C)' has 3 gate delays |
| 23:20.40 | Shirik | E+A'+C' only has 2! |
| 23:20.55 | Shirik | keep up batrick! |
| 23:21.11 | batrick | !quote batrick form |
| 23:21.11 | batbot | batrick, batrick said: "I was putting it in your form". |
| 23:21.11 | batrick | !quote batrick form |
| 23:21.12 | batbot | batrick, batrick said: "I was putting it in your form". |
| 23:21.16 | batrick | fgT!!! |
| 23:21.17 | Shirik | o.o |
| 23:21.29 | Shirik | oh |
| 23:21.33 | Shirik | well that's what the kmap said :D |
| 23:21.37 | Shirik | I didn't think about it |
| 23:21.49 | Shirik | kmaps discourage thinking |
| 23:21.57 | Shirik | p.s. that started as a 6 variable expression |
| 23:21.57 | sag_ich_nicht | actually i have the decrypter for that stuff here somewhere |
| 23:22.01 | Shirik | and it went down to 3 |
| 23:22.14 | Shirik | I had this huge kmap ready to fill out |
| 23:22.18 | Shirik | 2^6 slots |
| 23:22.26 | sag_ich_nicht | and, of course, have decrypted the stuff locally. why? because it's slower when it's encrypted |
| 23:22.27 | Shirik | and then sag_ich_nicht's all like "Oh wait, I only need 4" |
| 23:22.27 | Tuller | kd3: it work? |
| 23:22.27 | sag_ich_nicht | :> |
| 23:22.43 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: Btw |
| 23:22.47 | Shirik | I don't intend to go to sleep |
| 23:22.48 | kd3 | I got #2 to show up after a reloadui. trying to see if I can get more now |
| 23:22.51 | Shirik | have to get this signature verification working |
| 23:22.52 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 23:22.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah, fair enough |
| 23:23.00 | Cidan | DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DE... oh forget it |
| 23:23.04 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik: it doesn't matter anyway since DogTag works weird(in b4 flame from certain people that it doesn't) |
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| 23:23.20 | Shirik | NO U |
| 23:23.21 | TecnoBrat|Work | Cidan: developers? where? |
| 23:23.28 | Cidan | TecnoBrat|Work: No clue, D: |
| 23:23.42 | Shirik | screw developers |
| 23:23.46 | Shirik | I'm a computer engineer. |
| 23:23.54 | TecnoBrat|Work | I just gonna say that |
| 23:23.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, we noticed |
| 23:24.06 | TecnoBrat|Work | I'm hearing a lot more "engineering" talk than "developer" talk :P |
| 23:24.08 | ScytheBlade1 | :) |
| 23:24.11 | kd3 | there's gotta be an easier way to do this, though... maybe a "add a hotbar" button in config mode |
| 23:24.20 | Cidan | And I'm a computer scientist, thpt |
| 23:24.38 | Tuller | kd3: you don't like the design |
| 23:24.40 | Cidan | I don't want to; NAY, I REFUSE to become a software developer |
| 23:24.40 | Tuller | ? |
| 23:24.43 | Shirik | btw fk signals and systems |
| 23:24.48 | Tuller | I know its not obvious at least |
| 23:24.50 | kd3 | config mode rocks, I just can't get it to add more hotbars |
| 23:24.56 | batrick | hahhahahhahaa |
| 23:24.58 | kd3 | I've got 1 and 2, can't get it to make more |
| 23:25.00 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik to quote from #wowace: [23:15] <Ellipsis> evaluation of | is left to right; it stops when it hits the first non-blank return |
| 23:25.03 | Tuller | hold down alt, left click & drag :) |
| 23:25.07 | batrick | signals & systems rox! |
| 23:25.11 | kd3 | did that |
| 23:25.12 | Tuller | kd3: you see where it says available action ids? |
| 23:25.18 | kd3 | ya |
| 23:25.20 | Tuller | kd3: is the number 0? :) |
| 23:25.26 | kd3 | nope. 96 |
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| 23:25.36 | Tuller | are you creating a gigantic bar by chance? |
| 23:25.44 | pastamancer | why must sag_ich_nicht vs. dogtag infect every channel I'm in?! |
| 23:25.44 | kd3 | nah. standard 1-row, 12 column bars |
| 23:25.52 | Cidan | seriously |
| 23:25.55 | Tuller | are you pulling off of my svn? |
| 23:25.55 | Cidan | who uses bongos? |
| 23:25.59 | Shirik | I do! |
| 23:26.01 | Shirik | die |
| 23:26.01 | Cidan | WHO WRITES THAT CRAP ANYWAYS? |
| 23:26.04 | Cidan | JEEZ MAN |
| 23:26.05 | Tuller | batman! |
| 23:26.08 | kd3 | got alpha2 from gcode |
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| 23:26.13 | Cidan | Oh wait, I use bongos, :P |
| 23:26.16 | Cidan | And I love it. |
| 23:26.24 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm too elitist for barmods |
| 23:26.27 | Tuller | kd3: that's really wierd :P |
| 23:26.30 | kd3 | oh, I get it |
| 23:26.30 | Shirik | Needs to be aced imo |
| 23:26.34 | kd3 | click in blank space |
| 23:26.35 | Cidan | Shirik: SHUT UP |
| 23:26.36 | kd3 | not on the bars |
| 23:26.36 | sag_ich_nicht | [00:25] <pastamancer> why must sag_ich_nicht vs. dogtag infect every channel I'm in?! <--i don't, i just told Shirik why it didn't work |
| 23:26.39 | Cidan | Shirik: YOU SHOULD DIE |
| 23:26.44 | kd3 | now it makes sense |
| 23:26.45 | Lunessa | Bongos is shit. Except for the MapBar which I replace anyway. |
| 23:26.58 | Lunessa | er, the shit, not 'shit' |
| 23:27.09 | Lunessa | I really need to proof my comments before hitting enter/. |
| 23:27.10 | Tuller | works either way :P |
| 23:27.18 | Tuller | kd3: alt + right click on a bar to delete it |
| 23:27.20 | Cidan | Tuller: If you Ace Bongos, I'll find you and murder you. |
| 23:27.29 | kd3 | ya. that's visible on the tooltip for the bar |
| 23:27.31 | sag_ich_nicht | gah |
| 23:27.36 | sag_ich_nicht | WoW out of memory error'd again: |
| 23:27.37 | sag_ich_nicht | File:.\SFile.cpp |
| 23:27.37 | sag_ich_nicht | Line:1478 |
| 23:27.37 | sag_ich_nicht | Requested 1095861 bytes of memory |
| 23:27.41 | Tuller | Cidan: I got some bad news for you :P |
| 23:27.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: lol |
| 23:27.45 | sag_ich_nicht | i really would like to know why the fuck it tends to do that |
| 23:27.47 | Cidan | Tuller: You're joking. |
| 23:27.51 | Cidan | Tuller: Tell me you're joking. |
| 23:27.55 | Tuller | Cidan: ace3'd |
| 23:27.57 | Cidan | Tuller: Please, tell me you're joking. |
| 23:27.59 | Cidan | CHRIST |
| 23:28.01 | Cidan | ALL |
| 23:28.03 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl |
| 23:28.04 | Kalroth | haha |
| 23:28.38 | batrick | http://hardware.slashdot.org/hardware/08/02/27/1930222.shtml : Summary: 40 virgins is no longer sufficiently enticing |
| 23:28.44 | Cidan | Well that's fine, I'll just stick to what I have and update it my self as I need to |
| 23:28.49 | kd3 | bug in the bindings mode... "shift-leftshift" isn't really a valid keybind |
| 23:28.49 | ScytheBlade1 | That might be incredibly funny |
| 23:28.52 | Tuller | I can tell you its not ce2 :) |
| 23:28.52 | Thrae|Work | sag_ich_nicht: That's usually a IPF, or Invalid Page Fault. Best to do a bad sector scan on your HDD and a stress Memtest86 on your memory to rule those out. |
| 23:28.57 | wereHamster | sag_ich_nicht, that's only 1GB, don't you have that much memory? |
| 23:29.01 | Tuller | kd3: yeah i have not figured out how that happens yet |
| 23:29.09 | Tuller | kd3: but in theory its a blizzard thing :) |
| 23:29.13 | Tuller | err ace2 at least |
| 23:29.16 | Tuller | it was dongle |
| 23:29.21 | Tuller | and homebrew randomness before |
| 23:29.29 | Cidan | after ElkanoBuffBars went Ace, I just kept his old version |
| 23:29.41 | Cidan | it broke in the newest patch, fixed it |
| 23:29.43 | Cidan | works fine |
| 23:29.45 | Tuller | i'm not using ace config or anything like that |
| 23:29.47 | Thrae|Work | wereHamster: That's 1MB, not 1GB :D |
| 23:29.57 | Tuller | I just replaced the dongle parts with ace parts, basically |
| 23:30.07 | wereHamster | ~fail wereHamster |
| 23:30.08 | purl | wereHamster: Fail. |
| 23:30.13 | Lunessa | If Tuller wants to use a library to save himself some work, I'm all for it. |
| 23:30.15 | Tuller | ~same memory usage, though bongos will be blamed for ace3 usage |
| 23:30.29 | Tuller | I wouldn't touch ace2 with a 10ft pole :P |
| 23:30.32 | Cidan | Shirik: We should really go for a hostle movement into Ace-land. I'm thinkin a Fubar replacement, imo. |
| 23:30.35 | Cidan | Well |
| 23:30.36 | Cidan | To be fair |
| 23:30.43 | sag_ich_nicht | [00:28] <wereHamster> sag_ich_nicht, that's only 1GB, don't you have that much memory? <--i have fucking 4 GB, i run MemTest86 72h hours straight and my HDD is actually a RAID 0+1 |
| 23:30.44 | Thrae|Work | wereHamster: No worries, I used a calculator too. |
| 23:30.45 | Cidan | I have yet... no wait, yes, I have tried Ace3 |
| 23:31.02 | wereHamster | rofl |
| 23:31.12 | sag_ich_nicht | so no. |
| 23:31.12 | Tuller | you'ren ot going to know its an ace addon unless you look very hard |
| 23:31.15 | Thrae|Work | sag_ich_nicht: RAID doesn't stop bad sectors, all it does is provide backup in case one fails. |
| 23:31.17 | TecnoBrat|Work | sag_ich_nicht: why do you keep quoting people? :P |
| 23:31.21 | Tuller | err not, rather |
| 23:31.31 | sag_ich_nicht | TecnoBrat: because it pisses you off |
| 23:31.36 | wereHamster | sag_ich_nicht, use zfs if you're worried about HD corruption |
| 23:31.46 | TecnoBrat|Work | hahah this isn't pissed off |
| 23:31.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Or! |
| 23:31.50 | ScytheBlade1 | backup. |
| 23:31.56 | wereHamster | zfs >> raid |
| 23:32.04 | Cidan | no zfs on linux yet |
| 23:32.07 | Tuller | & worst case, if it goes a way I don't like, fork :P |
| 23:32.07 | Cidan | which bothers me so much |
| 23:32.25 | wereHamster | Cidan, probably never will, due to licensing issues :( |
| 23:32.28 | Tuller | then I can have my own version of rock! :P |
| 23:32.29 | Cidan | Tuller: Nah, I'm not in that business, I have my own API going on with Shirik. |
| 23:32.33 | Cidan | wereHamster: Er, no? |
| 23:32.34 | Fin | does anyone know a decent fubar plugin that shows cooldowns? |
| 23:32.35 | TecnoBrat|Work | Cidan: isn't it like pattented? |
| 23:32.39 | Cidan | wereHamster: It's out on OSX |
| 23:32.42 | sag_ich_nicht | Cidan: don't you dare use Ace |
| 23:32.51 | Cidan | sag_ich_nicht: Uh.. |
| 23:32.53 | sag_ich_nicht | Cidan: I'd have to shoot you and Shirik |
| 23:32.54 | wereHamster | Cidan, maybe as FUSE, but not in the kernel |
| 23:33.06 | Cidan | wereHamster: Correct, it is FUSE |
| 23:33.08 | Tuller | Cidan: I vaguely recall it |
| 23:33.17 | TecnoBrat|Work | ahh right |
| 23:33.20 | TecnoBrat|Work | its a license issue |
| 23:33.24 | Cidan | sag_ich_nicht: No dipwad, Conspiracy, :P |
| 23:33.25 | Cidan | also |
| 23:33.27 | sag_ich_nicht | Cidan i'd like you using LibStub... but i'll kill you if you use any Ace* for your stuff :P |
| 23:33.29 | TecnoBrat|Work | GPL vs CDDL |
| 23:33.31 | sag_ich_nicht | Cidan: i know :P |
| 23:33.34 | Cidan | this is incorrect |
| 23:34.00 | Tuller | kd3: anyway, the keybinding thing i'm looking into, but a reloadui should fix it |
| 23:34.15 | Cidan | Yes the license is "incompatable" in the sense that they don't work together in principle of ideals, but there is actually nothing stopping someone from writing and using a kernel mod |
| 23:34.26 | Cidan | It would just taint the kernel |
| 23:34.30 | Cidan | which is fine |
| 23:34.40 | wereHamster | .. like the nvidia blob I'm using right now :) |
| 23:34.44 | Cidan | bingo |
| 23:34.46 | Cidan | :P |
| 23:34.52 | Cidan | half of us, if not more, already do so |
| 23:34.56 | Cidan | so it's not that big of a deal |
| 23:34.58 | TecnoBrat|Work | "taint"? |
| 23:35.09 | TecnoBrat|Work | "taint" as in actual code taint, or as in ideals? |
| 23:35.16 | Cidan | ideals |
| 23:35.20 | Cidan | it would be running non-free code |
| 23:35.21 | wereHamster | meaning the kernel devs will ignore your bug reports.. |
| 23:35.22 | TecnoBrat|Work | ahh yea |
| 23:35.27 | TecnoBrat|Work | right |
| 23:35.32 | Cidan | well non-free in the sense of GPL anyways |
| 23:35.33 | TecnoBrat|Work | unsupported |
| 23:35.36 | Thrae|Work | Wait, what's with the Ace3 worries? |
| 23:36.09 | Tuller | I made Cidan cry :) |
| 23:36.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Tuller: grats! |
| 23:36.46 | Cidan | I hate you all |
| 23:36.50 | Cidan | Except Lopeppeppy, :D |
| 23:36.55 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 23:36.56 | Thrae|Work | Why does Cidan hate Ace3? |
| 23:36.58 | Tuller | link me to your library thing :P |
| 23:37.06 | Cidan | www.conspiracy-ui.com |
| 23:37.14 | Cidan | Very much a WIP |
| 23:37.25 | Cidan | also, I don't HATE it, per se. |
| 23:37.27 | Tuller | does it make candy? |
| 23:37.48 | Thrae|Work | Well, what don't you like about it, Cidan? |
| 23:37.51 | Cidan | Ace1 was great, and I haven't dug too much into Ace3 so I can't judge it as harshly as say, Ace2 |
| 23:37.56 | Lunessa | It tells little girls to get in the Van. |
| 23:38.02 | Lunessa | It has tinfoil hats. |
| 23:38.09 | batrick | man I love slashdot tags for microsoft articles |
| 23:38.14 | Lunessa | They have oribital mind control lasers. |
| 23:38.16 | Cidan | So I can't say I hate, nor can I say I dislike Ace3 |
| 23:38.17 | Tuller | Ace3 can be best described as "not sucking" |
| 23:38.28 | Thrae|Work | Engineering should be able to make a tinfoil hat. |
| 23:38.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Man. Speaking of orbital mind control lasers. |
| 23:38.43 | ScytheBlade1 | I need to finish the C&C3 campaign |
| 23:39.08 | Cidan | ScytheBlade1: If you beat it with both NOD and GDI, you get to play a small campaign as Scrin |
| 23:39.19 | TecnoBrat|Work | Thrae|Work: I hate it. |
| 23:39.23 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm on the last (I think) GDI mission |
| 23:39.30 | Thrae|Work | [Tinfoil Hat]; Mail; +34 Stamina; Equip: Reduces chance to be mind-controlled by 50%. |
| 23:39.44 | pastamancer | I'm still stuck on the GDI campaign where you have to save the base that only has enough power to keep half its defenses online :( |
| 23:39.59 | [FFG]Irq | If I use "frame:SetScript("OnUpdate", Q_Coords_OnUpdate(self, elapsed));" elapsed seems to be empty, anyone know how I can get that to work? |
| 23:39.59 | Cidan | Scrin == bunch of bullshit |
| 23:39.59 | ScytheBlade1 | "lawl you're starting against a mothership and superweapon, plus two different opponents, glhf" |
| 23:40.00 | Lopeppeppy | If that's how it's described I don't like it already, Tuller. |
| 23:40.16 | Fisker- | giiiiiiiiiiiev eu servars kd3 |
| 23:40.29 | ScytheBlade1 | I kinda sat there for a few minutes |
| 23:40.31 | Cidan | [FFG]Irq: You're not doing that right |
| 23:40.31 | ScytheBlade1 | And then I quit |
| 23:40.48 | Thrae|Work | [FFG]Irq: Just give it Q_Coords_OnUpdate. It sends self and elapsed when your OnUpdate is invoked. |
| 23:40.54 | Cidan | [FFG]Irq: When you call a function in a script, you can't define arguments in the call |
| 23:40.57 | Cidan | right |
| 23:41.10 | Cidan | remove "(self, elapsed)" |
| 23:41.12 | [FFG]Irq | ohh |
| 23:41.14 | [FFG]Irq | :o |
| 23:41.18 | Thrae|Work | Cidan: Well you can with function enclosures, but he doesn't need that here ;) |
| 23:41.25 | Cidan | well yes |
| 23:41.32 | Cidan | which I am guilty of using |
| 23:41.37 | Cidan | when I totally shouldn't. |
| 23:41.47 | Thrae|Work | What's wrong with function enclosures? Lua unrolls them pretty well. |
| 23:42.01 | Cidan | Ya, in particular with the newer versions |
| 23:42.01 | Thrae|Work | It doesn't always end up a function calling another function. |
| 23:42.09 | Cidan | but I'm all anal about memory usage, etc |
| 23:42.33 | Thrae|Work | You should be anal about performance, not memory usage |
| 23:42.38 | Fisker- | so kd3 |
| 23:42.41 | Fisker- | us servers still up? |
| 23:42.59 | Tuller | Cidan: make the entire thing drag and drop :P |
| 23:43.08 | Cidan | Tuller: For cell creation? |
| 23:43.14 | kd3 | we're up right now, but still using the old build. something tells me they'll be getting taken down summarily |
| 23:43.17 | Tuller | I have no idea :) |
| 23:43.32 | Tuller | kd3: do you hate/like the new bar creation system? |
| 23:43.35 | pastamancer | Tuller: and add gradients? |
| 23:43.35 | Cidan | PRETTY BIG THINGIE HIT WITH STICK OOGA? |
| 23:43.53 | sag_ich_nicht | [00:42] <Thrae|Work> You should be anal about performance, not memory usage <--he's pretty anal about both |
| 23:43.53 | Tuller | pastamancer: there are gradients, I think |
| 23:43.54 | kd3 | I like it. just once there's an in-game indication of how it's supposed to work it'll be great |
| 23:44.02 | sag_ich_nicht | just like Shirik |
| 23:44.06 | sag_ich_nicht | because they are engineers |
| 23:44.09 | sag_ich_nicht | not programmers |
| 23:44.09 | sag_ich_nicht | :) |
| 23:44.16 | pastamancer | Tuller: oh nice. gradients and sans-serif fonts make things go faster |
| 23:44.19 | Shirik | :< |
| 23:44.22 | Shirik | Oh wait that's a good thing |
| 23:44.35 | sag_ich_nicht | durrrrrrrrr |
| 23:44.48 | Fisker- | i am bored |
| 23:44.52 | Thrae|Work | sag_ich_nicht: Well if you see the new TinyTip, you'll see I'm pretty anal about memory usage too...but still, I'm going to be adding in some new code which trades memory for performance |
| 23:44.53 | sag_ich_nicht | Fisker- suicide |
| 23:44.59 | Fisker- | no |
| 23:45.01 | Fisker- | u |
| 23:45.05 | sag_ich_nicht | uh, no |
| 23:45.07 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm not bored |
| 23:45.10 | sag_ich_nicht | so: no need to suicide |
| 23:45.18 | Thrae|Work | big tables > O(n) iterations |
| 23:45.36 | Cidan | <3 TinyTip |
| 23:45.39 | Tuller | pastamancer: racing stripes |
| 23:46.03 | pastamancer | Tuller: totally |
| 23:46.14 | Thrae|Work | I need to double-check Ace3 but I think I may switch to it from Dongle as well, considering cladhaire is on the Ace3 team anyway |
| 23:47.09 | pastamancer | you can only blame me for AceComm-3... me and mikk |
| 23:47.10 | Fisker- | sag_ich_nicht YOU DIE NOW |
| 23:47.29 | Fisker- | because of you i'm no longer an agent of this system |
| 23:47.33 | TecnoBrat|Work | pastamancer: I blame you for much more than that |
| 23:47.55 | TecnoBrat|Work | :P |
| 23:48.03 | pastamancer | TecnoBrat|Work: It was in another state and she swore she was 18! |
| 23:48.12 | TecnoBrat|Work | haha |
| 23:48.32 | WobWork | hm |
| 23:48.41 | sag_ich_nicht | Fisker-: nope |
| 23:48.43 | WobWork | I wonder if IRC@work can ... turn off the autoaway |
| 23:48.53 | Fisker- | ahuh |
| 23:50.05 | [FFG]Irq | "attempt to perform arithmetic on field 'TimeSinceLastUpdate' (a nil value)" any idea what that means? Using it from here: http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Use_OnUpdate_Correctly |
| 23:51.14 | Shirik | it means you tried to do arithmetic on TimeSinceLastUpdate which is in some table |
| 23:51.17 | Shirik | and that field does not exist |
| 23:51.43 | Shirik | yeah that wiki is wrong |
| 23:51.44 | Shirik | let me fix that |
| 23:51.59 | Shirik | oh wait no it's not |
| 23:52.02 | Shirik | I missed the OnLoad part |
| 23:52.06 | Shirik | are you sure you copied it correctly? |
| 23:52.59 | [FFG]Irq | well I'm not doing it in xml, making it with lua so not sure if it's right |
| 23:53.09 | Shirik | well you'll need to have an OnLoad script |
| 23:53.12 | Shirik | did you get that in there? |
| 23:53.17 | Shirik | well, OnLoad doesn't exist for frames |
| 23:53.22 | Shirik | how about you paste your code? :) |
| 23:54.00 | foxlit | "well, OnLoad doesn't exist for frames" what kind of treachery is that? |
| 23:54.06 | Shirik | for frames made in Lua |
| 23:54.13 | Shirik | I'm thinking 20 times faster than I'm typing |
| 23:54.25 | foxlit | Well, that still isn't strictly correct. |
| 23:54.29 | foxlit | It's run if you inherit one :) |
| 23:54.30 | Shirik | ok |
| 23:54.33 | Tuller | local f =CreateFrame('Frame'); f:SetScript('OnUpdate', function(self, elapsed) if self.nextUpdate < 0 then self.nextUpdate = DELAY; doStuf() else self.nextUpdate = self.nextUpdate - elapsed end) self.nextUpdate = 0 |
| 23:54.38 | [FFG]Irq | I made the OnUpdate funtion write the elapsed, so that works anyway |
| 23:54.39 | [FFG]Irq | mainf:SetScript("OnUpdate", Q_Coords_OnUpdate); |
| 23:54.44 | Tuller | gah, I forgot an end |
| 23:54.48 | Thrae|Work | Tuller beat me to it |
| 23:54.49 | Shirik | Tuller: The problem still exists with that code :) |
| 23:54.59 | Tuller | Shirik: no it does not :) |
| 23:55.08 | Shirik | After local f=CreateFrame("Frame") you need to do self.nextUpdate = 0; |
| 23:55.10 | foxlit | Why do people insist on elapsed? |
| 23:55.10 | Tuller | Shirik: there is one thread, and it dances |
| 23:55.13 | foxlit | GetTime()! |
| 23:55.26 | Tuller | that onupdate won't fire until the next frame :) |
| 23:55.28 | Thrae|Work | foxlit: Why call a function when you already have the value needed? |
| 23:55.33 | Shirik | Otherwise you're going to do self.nextUpdate < 0 on a value that's nil |
| 23:56.06 | Shirik | You could do "self.nextUpdate or -1 < 0" or something |
| 23:56.17 | |pez| | Anyone speak German here? |
| 23:56.23 | Shirik | er |
| 23:56.26 | Thrae|Work | |pez|: Nein |
| 23:56.27 | foxlit | I'd say it's cheap enough, and it lends to easier use of OR |
| 23:56.28 | Shirik | "(self.nextUpdate or -1) < 0" |
| 23:56.38 | WobWork | I was going to say "Nyet" |
| 23:56.38 | |pez| | Thrae|Work: :P |
| 23:56.50 | Tuller | Shirik: I think you mised the self.nextUpdate = x part :P |
| 23:56.55 | Shirik | where's that? |
| 23:57.00 | Tuller | which should be f anyway |
| 23:57.02 | Tuller | and -1 |
| 23:57.15 | Shirik | I don't see it in there >.> |
| 23:57.34 | Tuller | perhps your fancy pants irc reader has a column limit :P |
| 23:57.47 | Shirik | ~kill nbs-irc |
| 23:57.47 | purl | ACTION shoots a inverse neutrino gun at nbs-irc |
