| 00:00.50 | batrick | Shirik: you have to set the what the close button does |
| 00:01.02 | Shirik | I'm well aware of that :) |
| 00:01.10 | batrick | o then nvm :P |
| 00:01.15 | Shirik | I know Swing inside and out :) |
| 00:01.31 | Shirik | unfortunately |
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| 00:04.12 | Iriel | Shirik: Is the JVM consuming any resources when it locks up? |
| 00:05.05 | Shirik | Nope |
| 00:05.25 | Iriel | Wierd. |
| 00:06.00 | Iriel | I guess do a clean rebuild (in case a .class got corrupted), and failing that, diff against your last working SVN copy |
| 00:06.33 | Fin | it should really be possible to share the daily instance quests |
| 00:07.25 | Lopeppeppy | Then you could get a neverending chain, since they do not expire. |
| 00:07.57 | Shirik | Oh hey Iriel I was meaning to ask you |
| 00:08.15 | Shirik | came across an interesting scenario the other day and had to make this ugly hack to get around it |
| 00:08.38 | Shirik | I have a static final variable in a class. The value it is to be initialized to requires a function call that can throw an exception |
| 00:08.53 | Shirik | So Java yells at me because I'm not handling the exception/declaring it to be thrown |
| 00:08.58 | Iriel | Right |
| 00:09.06 | Shirik | But I can't handle it or declare that because it's not in a function in the first place... |
| 00:09.09 | Iriel | you're only allowed to throw a runtime exception in a static initializer |
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| 00:09.14 | Iriel | You can always do |
| 00:09.48 | Iriel | static { try { staticVar = SomeFunction(); } catch (BadException be) { throw new RuntimeException("Bad stuff happened: " + be, be) } } |
| 00:10.00 | Iriel | In the class body |
| 00:10.20 | Iriel | Or create a static wrapper function |
| 00:11.06 | Shirik | wow |
| 00:11.14 | Shirik | what is that o.o |
| 00:11.25 | Iriel | A static initialization block? |
| 00:11.34 | Iriel | Gets run when the class is initialized |
| 00:12.04 | Shirik | interesting, I had never seen this before |
| 00:12.08 | Iriel | http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/java/javaOO/initial.html |
| 00:12.08 | Shirik | exactly what I was looking for too |
| 00:12.10 | Iriel | It's handy |
| 00:12.21 | Shirik | >3 |
| 00:12.32 | Shirik | er |
| 00:12.32 | Shirik | <3 |
| 00:12.45 | Iriel | I try not to overuse them, but I use them for stuff like creating a static unmodifiable map or set |
| 00:13.07 | Shirik | this was for an unmodifiable URL, which throws a MalformedURLException |
| 00:13.46 | Iriel | Your other choice there, depending on how many of the things you have is to create a URLUtil class and define public static URL initializeURL(String url) throws IllegalArgumentException; |
| 00:14.07 | Iriel | If you're initializing more than say, three, of the things, i'd do that |
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| 00:20.01 | Gnarfoz | will "blah (foo)? bar" as a lua pattern match both "blah bar" and "blah foo bar"? |
| 00:20.38 | wereHamster | "blah bar" (two spaces) |
| 00:20.46 | Gnarfoz | oh, right |
| 00:21.07 | kd3 | whee crashing the PTR |
| 00:21.53 | Iriel | lua doesn't do group level conditionals |
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| 00:22.43 | Cide | I wish lua had a real regex implementation |
| 00:23.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Same |
| 00:26.46 | Gnarfoz | ... what? ;D |
| 00:29.51 | Kalroth | Cide: I bet it could be coded in Lua! |
| 00:30.01 | Cide | Kalroth: no... |
| 00:30.17 | Cide | individual character access is horrible |
| 00:30.27 | Iriel | A real implementation should allow for pre-compiled patterns too |
| 00:30.33 | Cide | wihch can be remedied, but still |
| 00:30.44 | Cide | Iriel: aye |
| 00:32.34 | Shirik | A real implementation would expose the well-known PCRE functions to Lua :) |
| 00:32.44 | Shirik | s/PRCE/PCRE C/ |
| 00:32.50 | Shirik | er |
| 00:32.51 | Shirik | whatever |
| 00:32.54 | Shirik | the C functions! |
| 00:33.31 | Shirik | unfortunately can't do that in WoW |
| 00:33.35 | Shirik | but it would be much faster |
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| 00:35.58 | Shirik | anyone know the CD on void crystal -> prismatic? |
| 00:36.22 | Atriace | 3 Days, no? |
| 00:36.31 | Shirik | is that it? |
| 00:36.40 | Shirik | someone else told me 1 |
| 00:36.49 | Atriace | I thought it was the same as Nexus -> Small Prismatic |
| 00:37.19 | Cide | void -> prism is 24h |
| 00:37.22 | Cide | or 23h |
| 00:37.50 | Atriace | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34872#comments |
| 00:38.05 | Atriace | 1 day is correct. |
| 00:38.24 | Atriace | Alright, I need help hooking again. >_< |
| 00:38.45 | Atriace | How would you hook this? FuBarPlugin.OnEmbedInitialize(FuBarPlugin, self) |
| 00:39.52 | Iriel | Using hooksecurefunc? |
| 00:40.22 | Iriel | hooksecurefunc(FuBarPlugin, "OnEmbedInitialize", YourFunctionHere) |
| 00:40.38 | Iriel | Otherwise you'd just do a normal lua style hook, replacing FuBarPlugin.OnEmbedInitialize with your reference |
| 00:40.56 | Atriace | Don't secure hooks not overwrite the original? |
| 00:43.14 | Shirik | if that were the case, it wouldn't be a hook :) |
| 00:43.23 | Atriace | hehe |
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| 00:43.41 | Atriace | Well: "Your hook will be called with the same arguments, but will not be able to affect the outcome of the original call." -Wowwiki |
| 00:43.57 | Atriace | Ergo my assumption it doesn't affect the original |
| 00:43.57 | Shirik | cororect |
| 00:44.02 | Shirik | what are you trying to do? |
| 00:44.16 | Shirik | it doesn't affect the return values |
| 00:44.28 | Shirik | and it is also a post-hook |
| 00:44.42 | Atriace | FuBar places their minimap icons on the wrong strata (or rather with the wrong parent). The setpoint command is inside function FuBarPlugin.OnEmbedInitialize |
| 00:45.08 | Atriace | I wanted to hook into it and rewrite the parent definition |
| 00:45.26 | Shirik | why would you need to do a secure hook? |
| 00:45.27 | Iriel | Atriace: securehooks run AFTER the original, but are passed the same args |
| 00:45.43 | Iriel | Atriace: they dont affect the return value, but obviously they can have useful side-effects |
| 00:46.19 | Atriace | Iriel: Are you recommending I use a securehook? I'd assumed a normal one would do the job. |
| 00:46.48 | Iriel | Atriace: If a normal one will do the job then go for it |
| 00:47.11 | Iriel | Atriace: The advantage of a secure hook is that it's easy, the disadvantage is the potential overhead of the closure it generates |
| 00:47.23 | Atriace | Well.... a simple: FuBarPlugin.OnEmbedInitialize = myFunction |
| 00:47.48 | Atriace | generated an error: "attempt to index global 'FuBarPlugin' nil value" |
| 00:48.13 | Shirik | then you're trying to do it too early |
| 00:48.40 | Shirik | if you're going to hook FuBarPlugin you're going to need to opt-dep it or do something so it is loaded before you do that |
| 00:48.51 | Atriace | Ah |
| 00:48.54 | Atriace | right. |
| 00:49.30 | Atriace | I assumed since my mod was alphabetically listed further down the list it would load later, but that doesn't preclude Fubar from only initializing its icons after X event. |
| 00:50.00 | Atriace | And my hook occurs at OnLoad. |
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| 00:52.45 | Atriace | Oh, by the way: I was running !Profiler on my mod and found out it was only using 65K.... which mystifies me. The textures included are worth at least 20MB (uncompressed though). |
| 00:53.28 | Atriace | Anyone know if that perceived memory utilization is relative to Lua/XML only? |
| 00:59.45 | Iriel | The UI doesn't take any hit for texture data |
| 00:59.56 | Iriel | only the tables/userdata handles into the lua layer |
| 01:00.25 | Atriace | Spiffy. |
| 01:00.36 | Iriel | so you can't really account for the images because they're in the WoW memory pool |
| 01:00.51 | Iriel | Which isn't to say that you get ridiculously large textures for free, merely you can't profile them from lua |
| 01:01.04 | Atriace | Oh ok. That makes more sense. |
| 01:01.22 | Atriace | So, perhaps a better test would be to measure the memory load of WoW both with and without the mod. |
| 01:01.48 | Iriel | if you're /that/ concerned, then yes |
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| 01:02.22 | Atriace | Well... trying to be mindful of slower systems. I'd like to think that someone with 10FPS won't take a hit by using my UI. |
| 01:02.26 | Shirik | I don't think that's justified |
| 01:02.31 | Shirik | memory != FPS |
| 01:02.55 | Shirik | In fact, for two equally well written addons, an increase of memory usage will result in an increase of FPS |
| 01:03.16 | Shirik | That doesnt' mean you can blindly use memory, but it also doesn't justify that much looking into it |
| 01:04.39 | Iriel | Shirik: Your previous statement doesn't hold true in many cases. The only thing tht's true is that there's no direct relationship between speed and memory. |
| 01:04.54 | WobWork | I hear using ktm can increase your fps. |
| 01:05.06 | Shirik | "equally well written" is the key; most tasks have two implementations |
| 01:05.13 | Shirik | one conserves memory, one conserves speed |
| 01:05.23 | Shirik | the question becomes which you want to use |
| 01:06.01 | Iriel | That only holds if otherwise the addons are IDENTICAL |
| 01:06.11 | Iriel | functionally |
| 01:06.16 | Iriel | and you didn't add that |
| 01:06.55 | Shirik | mm ok |
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| 01:12.26 | kd3 | damn it... I can get past the firewall in the sunwell, but I forget elixirs of dream vision. damn it |
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| 01:12.57 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: My druid can make some if needed |
| 01:13.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Also, I really need to release FakeRaidAddons. |
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| 01:13.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Auto-updating boss mods is the only way to roll |
| 01:13.20 | kd3 | I'm an alch. got a stack in the bank. just pissed at myself that I forgot to bring them with me |
| 01:13.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah |
| 01:15.05 | Nechckn | kd3 you're an alchoholic? damn, that explains alot. |
| 01:15.15 | Nechckn | sorry, sorry... I couldn't resist. |
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| 01:19.39 | kd3 | and bah. no I don't. no purple lotus either. off to go farm some real quick. >.>; |
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| 01:31.50 | Guillotine | So anybody have any suggestion for a VM that will run on Windows that can run Linux (specifically fedora)? I got it working on my old comp with Microsoft Virtual Machine, but it was extremely laggy and a real pain to install :/ |
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| 01:33.57 | WobWork | vmware? |
| 01:36.07 | Guillotine | does vmware work well? |
| 01:36.55 | WobWork | I use it the other way around |
| 01:37.03 | WobWork | when I want to work from home, I run windows on it |
| 01:37.12 | WobWork | so no doubt linux will run better |
| 01:37.40 | WobWork | as I expect it's easier to emulate an open source OS than a closed source one |
| 01:37.48 | WobWork | (more reliably anyway) |
| 01:38.45 | Guillotine | thanks :) |
| 01:38.50 | Guillotine | and it isn't too laggy? |
| 01:40.59 | WobWork | not that I found =) |
| 01:41.45 | kd3 | thank the gods for jintha'alor... a stack and a half of purple lotus |
| 01:49.35 | Corrodias | lotusgnome |
| 01:49.37 | Corrodias | eeeew |
| 01:50.04 | fromatz | is there any way to track someone that afk's in a bg? using a wow api? |
| 01:50.33 | Corrodias | "track" in what way? |
| 01:50.39 | Corrodias | they'll have a deserter debuff for 15 minutes |
| 01:51.02 | fromatz | like, is there a function that returns some type of int or bool that says yes, they afked |
| 01:51.03 | kd3 | just iterate through the raid and check their debuffs |
| 01:51.03 | WobWork | actually -being- afk will boot you from the bg |
| 01:51.18 | WobWork | (or at least I think it does) |
| 01:51.27 | Corrodias | you can safely assume that nobody in a BG is <afk> |
| 01:51.41 | Seerah | wobwork: this is true |
| 01:51.45 | Seerah | at least it used to be |
| 01:51.50 | WobWork | sorry, I should rephrase. Being -flagged- afk is enough |
| 01:51.55 | fromatz | no, i want to say log someone who afk's into a variable in the savevariables |
| 01:51.58 | WobWork | Hehe I haven't tried for a while |
| 01:52.03 | kd3 | "just iterate through the raid and check their debuffs" |
| 01:52.11 | WobWork | fromatz: how do you determine who is 'afk'? |
| 01:52.12 | Seerah | btw - this week's Pick of the Week has been posted. :) http://www.wowinterface.com/pickofweek.php |
| 01:52.25 | WobWork | ^^ |
| 01:52.27 | Corrodias | that would be pretty much any time somebody leaves the battleground before the end of the game |
| 01:52.28 | WobWork | <3 <3 <3 |
| 01:52.46 | WobWork | Psst Seerah |
| 01:52.56 | WobWork | There's a button you can click to activate the mouse to select a frame |
| 01:53.04 | WobWork | Maybe I should make that more apparant |
| 01:53.08 | fromatz | i think i need to rephrase what i need |
| 01:53.30 | Corrodias | phrase it in terms of what the addon would actually do |
| 01:53.49 | fromatz | right now my addon, at the end of a bg, calculates |
| 01:53.59 | fromatz | getbattlefieldscores |
| 01:55.34 | Seerah | wobwork: there is? :P |
| 01:56.07 | WobWork | /xparky -> Frame link |
| 01:56.11 | WobWork | first button |
| 01:56.29 | WobWork | I totally stole Kyahx's mouse select from Dash |
| 01:56.32 | WobWork | <.< |
| 01:56.35 | WobWork | >.> |
| 01:56.54 | Seerah | lol |
| 01:57.45 | Seerah | I'll have to update that then. I also forgot to mention the new dogtag text feature in daportrait |
| 01:58.06 | Corrodias | so... fromatz, what do you want it to do that it doesn't? |
| 01:58.56 | WobWork | hehe I love loading a wowi-addon page before the images all come in |
| 01:59.02 | WobWork | It makes it look all excited |
| 01:59.13 | WobWork | "DaPortrait Updated! Popular!" |
| 01:59.28 | Seerah | lol |
| 01:59.42 | fromatz | mind if i send a tell, i dont want to keep spamming the channel? |
| 02:00.09 | WobWork | You'll have to register your nick |
| 02:00.17 | WobWork | but tell us anyway |
| 02:01.35 | WobWork | Seerah: hm, regards the documentation tab being alpha'd |
| 02:01.46 | WobWork | I suspect that's an Ace3 bug |
| 02:01.50 | WobWork | but try using /xparky |
| 02:01.54 | WobWork | and see if it has the same issue |
| 02:02.08 | Seerah | I mentioned in that post that it didn't |
| 02:02.12 | WobWork | I need to reformat that documentation into something a little prettier |
| 02:02.14 | WobWork | oh. |
| 02:02.17 | Seerah | :) |
| 02:02.19 | WobWork | In that case, I'll bug Narg =) |
| 02:02.45 | Seerah | daportrait had the same issue - with tabs in the right frame as well if you want to mention that to him as well |
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| 02:10.49 | sacarasc | !c eu darkmoon faire yanil |
| 02:10.52 | kd3 | crap... I can't get through the last gate using dream vision |
| 02:10.53 | WoWLuaircBot | sacarasc: Yanil, Level 70 Draenei Shaman (0/44/17). 7589 HP; 8634 Mana; 159 mana regen; 52 mp5; 4085 Armour; 698 AP; 120.700 Melee DPS; 13.10% melee crit; 32 melee hit; 20 spell crit; 473 +spell dmg; 705 +heal; 7.68% dodge; 5.00% block; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 939 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yr5lg5 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/33k6nk ][ Updated: Sun Feb 24 21:20:20 2008 EST ]] |
| 02:11.40 | sacarasc | heh, logged out in my crappy healing gear |
| 02:12.53 | Seerah | wobwork: heh - how on earth did I miss that big red button? |
| 02:13.24 | fromatz | where can i get a list of blizzards global variables? like VICTORY_TEXT |
| 02:13.50 | wereHamster | fromatz, extract the blizzard UI and search in it |
| 02:14.05 | WobWork | Seerah: I've had other reports of people missing it |
| 02:14.10 | WobWork | maybe it's too close to the top |
| 02:14.11 | Seerah | lol |
| 02:14.44 | fromatz | thansk werehamster |
| 02:14.49 | Seerah | I would do this |
| 02:15.09 | wereHamster | ~framexml |
| 02:15.10 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wdnaddons.com/ |
| 02:15.18 | Seerah | hook to frame button ......... frame connected to |
| 02:15.18 | wereHamster | fromatz, see ^^^^ |
| 02:15.19 | Seerah | side dropdown beneath that |
| 02:16.17 | WobWork | alongside rather than above? |
| 02:17.41 | Seerah | wobwork: yes. button on left, editbox on right, attach to dropdown and "inside" checkbox on same line as well |
| 02:18.09 | Seerah | then x,y offset |
| 02:18.14 | Seerah | finally strata |
| 02:18.59 | Seerah | Seerah>wobwork: yes. button on left, editbox on right, attach to dropdown and "inside" checkbox on same line as well - meaning on the same line, but below the anchor settings |
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| 02:22.36 | Seerah | does that make sense, wobin? |
| 02:23.15 | Sixen | Can you get speed increase on boots at level 10? |
| 02:23.16 | WobWork | I don't have it in front of me atm, so it's hard to visualise, but I'll figure it out =) |
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| 02:24.02 | WobWork | Sixen: yes |
| 02:24.11 | Sixen | Thought so. |
| 02:24.22 | Sixen | Thanks ;) |
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| 02:32.39 | Shirik | !google hello kitty island adventure |
| 02:32.40 | batbot | Shirik: WoWInterface Downloads : Compilations & Suites : Hello Kitty ... <http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7517-HelloKittyIslandAdventure.html> |
| 02:32.45 | Shirik | lol. |
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| 02:33.29 | Teh_Toncho | Yo |
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| 02:33.44 | Shirik | ...? |
| 02:33.48 | Shirik | hi again |
| 02:34.03 | Teh_Toncho | hi |
| 02:34.11 | Teh_Toncho | :P |
| 02:34.30 | Teh_Toncho | Hooold on. |
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| 02:35.49 | Seerah | wobwork: I know you said that you don't have it in front of you, but just to help you visualize (just my opinion of course :) ) it would look like this: http://wowi.pastey.net/82901 |
| 02:36.11 | WobWork | Seerah: looks good |
| 02:36.22 | WobWork | I'll modify it tongiht |
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| 02:48.04 | Seerah | wobwork: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=84062#post84062 fixed! :) |
| 02:49.07 | WobWork | ^^ |
| 02:49.31 | WobWork | hehe, we got a new guild name |
| 02:49.34 | WobWork | <Big In Japan> |
| 02:49.47 | WobWork | "You may not have heard of us, but we're Big In Japan" |
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| 02:50.34 | WobWork | infinitely better than <Free Goo> |
| 02:54.35 | mikma | WobWork: you alphaville you |
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| 03:04.34 | Guillotine | alright, so my order at ThinkGeek is 39.99 and if i have an order above 40, I get a free mini universal remote. Quick people, find me something else cheap to get! |
| 03:04.52 | Guillotine | I'm thinking maybe http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/stickers/5fa6/ |
| 03:07.08 | AlexanderYoshi | don't buy anything else, you don't really want that remote. |
| 03:07.23 | Seerah | it's a trap to make you buy something else! |
| 03:07.43 | Seerah | unless you really *do* want that remote.... |
| 03:07.56 | Seerah | then it would be like getting the remote for 2.99 and the stickers for free!!! |
| 03:07.58 | Guillotine | I was going to buy it anyway |
| 03:08.06 | Guillotine | but now I can get it for free! |
| 03:08.19 | AlexanderYoshi | well, in that case, get the stickers |
| 03:08.21 | AlexanderYoshi | or a box of candy |
| 03:09.16 | WobWork | get http://www.thinkgeek.com/caffeine/drinks/a273/ |
| 03:09.35 | WobWork | or http://www.thinkgeek.com/caffeine/candy/a03c/ |
| 03:09.47 | Sixen | Rofl |
| 03:09.50 | Sixen | That's awesome. |
| 03:11.19 | Lopeppeppy | I need those candies. |
| 03:11.24 | Seerah | mana energy potion is out of stock :( |
| 03:11.53 | Seerah | the heart candies are win though |
| 03:12.03 | Antiarc | Guillotine: I'm like two hours late, but I use VMWare server to run a Fedora install on my laptop for development |
| 03:12.11 | Antiarc | It's a little laggy, but it's more than usable. |
| 03:12.19 | Guillotine | awesome, thanks Antiarc |
| 03:12.51 | Guillotine | retailmenot is amazing |
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| 03:26.30 | Shirik | WobWork: I have that shirt |
| 03:26.35 | Shirik | "There's no place like 127.0.0.1" |
| 03:26.37 | Shirik | <3 it |
| 03:27.07 | Antiarc | Home is where the broadband is. |
| 03:27.20 | Sixen | "There's no place like 127.0.0.1" |
| 03:27.20 | batrick | heh |
| 03:27.20 | Sixen | lawl. |
| 03:28.34 | Guillotine | yah, I ended up getting that bumper sticker |
| 03:29.14 | Guillotine | the other one I want is (written on a blue background) "If this sticker appears red, you're going too fast" |
| 03:29.42 | Guillotine | but thinkgeek doesn't have that one :( |
| 03:30.38 | Guillotine | oh, and "There are 10 types of people in this world. This who know binary, those who don't, and those who know induction" |
| 03:31.05 | Antiarc | Isn't redshifting the result of moving away, causing the distance of light waves to spread out? |
| 03:31.17 | Antiarc | So it seems like it would blue shift if they're moving up towards your bumper |
| 03:31.23 | Guillotine | err, yah, reversed that |
| 03:31.33 | Guillotine | yah, my bad |
| 03:32.02 | mikma | Cairenn: http://matin.maapallo.org/kuvatuuppari/kamut/2975/20080224.gif |
| 03:32.16 | Cairenn | hehehehe |
| 03:33.04 | WobWork | I prefer Sinfest's pooch |
| 03:33.08 | WobWork | and Percy |
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| 03:36.20 | Guillotine | Cairenn: Can I nominate an AddOn of the week for next week? PartyAbilityBars ( http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8258-PartyAbilityBars.html ) Was just uploaded in the last 4 days, and its AMAZING. At least take a look :P |
| 03:36.36 | Cairenn | Guillotine: thanks |
| 03:36.38 | Guillotine | I don't know what I ever did without it in arena |
| 03:37.22 | Cairenn | we don't mind taking suggestions at all :) |
| 03:37.53 | End | I eat people who make suggestions though, so be careful |
| 03:37.59 | End | no wait, no I don't |
| 03:38.04 | End | I just lie about eating people a lot |
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| 03:42.28 | vulture_ | where is the 'amount' value for SPELL_PERIODIC_DAMAGE actually stored |
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| 03:42.32 | vulture_ | what variable ? |
| 03:43.12 | Guillotine | it isn't |
| 03:43.16 | Guillotine | you have to parse the text |
| 03:44.41 | vulture_ | what text |
| 03:45.11 | vulture_ | Sufficies: |
| 03:45.11 | vulture_ | _DAMAGE suffix Block: |
| 03:45.12 | vulture_ | amount, school, resisted, blocked, absorbed, critical, glancing, crushing |
| 03:45.13 | vulture_ | this |
| 03:45.28 | vulture_ | but where is 'amount' actually ? |
| 03:45.34 | Guillotine | oh, we're talking about 2.4? |
| 03:45.34 | Guillotine | nm |
| 03:45.38 | vulture_ | yesssssssssssssssss |
| 03:45.46 | vulture_ | pff, 2.3- is old easy ;P |
| 03:46.18 | Guillotine | my guess is the amount is stored in the 'amount' variable |
| 03:46.27 | vulture_ | yeah thats nil |
| 03:46.27 | Guillotine | but I really haven't touched it, and that seems too obvious to be true |
| 03:46.36 | Guillotine | no idea then |
| 03:46.40 | vulture_ | spellName seems to be valid |
| 03:46.56 | vulture_ | although I'm loving(sarcastic) the use of generic GLOBAL variable names |
| 03:47.20 | Guillotine | eh, its always happened. but you're right, its quite annoying |
| 03:47.36 | Guillotine | the worst was back when some authors changed the global 'event' variable |
| 03:47.44 | Guillotine | to customize it |
| 03:47.54 | Guillotine | anyway, going to restart my computer to try vmware, be back soon! |
| 03:47.58 | vulture_ | =/ |
| 03:53.23 | Shirik | This song requires hax to beat |
| 03:53.24 | Shirik | not fair |
| 03:53.35 | Shirik | damn you guitar hero |
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| 04:00.55 | fromatz | what song? |
| 04:01.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Whee |
| 04:01.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Just need the Vashj vial, and this guild has her on farm |
| 04:01.18 | ScytheBlade1 | So, win |
| 04:02.38 | Shirik | this one: http://youtube.com/watch?v=IBJaNg17yKA |
| 04:02.41 | Shirik | the beginning is so easy |
| 04:02.49 | Shirik | and then it's all like "k here's a million notes gogo have fun" |
| 04:03.30 | Shirik | around 3:00 is where I start having trouble |
| 04:04.37 | Antiarc | Yay |
| 04:04.39 | Antiarc | Illidan time |
| 04:09.08 | batrick | zzz |
| 04:11.17 | Atriace | Why would Blizzard block you from getting coordinates of players/raidN/target in instances? |
| 04:12.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Atriace: range checking addons |
| 04:12.03 | Atriace | It doesn't seem like it could be anything but helpful. |
| 04:12.09 | ScytheBlade1 | That's, actually, the idea |
| 04:12.19 | Atriace | That's a great idea |
| 04:12.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Because in all truth, CastSpellByName() was helpful |
| 04:12.26 | ScytheBlade1 | That too is locked down |
| 04:12.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, that's why it is locked down |
| 04:12.40 | ScytheBlade1 | That's one help they don't want in |
| 04:12.43 | Iriel | I believe the other reason is they dont want automated maps |
| 04:13.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah. You could script waypoints for an entire encounter, draw them on the screen, and send it to your raid group |
| 04:13.18 | ScytheBlade1 | "Follow the lines when they flash" done deal |
| 04:14.05 | Atriace | I had this idea in the back of my mind to create a second 3D space that's superimposed on the WorldSpace and draws bounding boxes around units based on camera pitch/etc.. and coordinate distance from targets. |
| 04:14.31 | Atriace | Like an assisted hypervision for busy fights. |
| 04:14.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Coordinate distances are not possible, but distance can be loosely determined by checking ability ranges |
| 04:14.56 | Atriace | Aye, I've seen that one. |
| 04:15.10 | Atriace | Wouldn't quite would without the real stuff though. |
| 04:15.25 | Atriace | Mmm flan. |
| 04:16.23 | Shirik | think about Gruul |
| 04:16.32 | Shirik | you could have the addon automatically calculate everyone's positions after a shatter |
| 04:16.35 | Shirik | and then tell them where to go |
| 04:17.09 | Atriace | points a & b good. Continue... |
| 04:17.15 | Atriace | hehe |
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| 04:21.53 | Shirik | wow |
| 04:21.56 | Shirik | I just crashed paint |
| 04:22.00 | Shirik | I didn't even think that would be possible |
| 04:22.22 | batrick | did you draw a broken window? |
| 04:22.43 | Shirik | I didn't even do anything |
| 04:22.45 | Shirik | just hit save... |
| 04:22.55 | fromatz | i can do all the hard songs on hard up to the last group |
| 04:23.06 | fromatz | i can only do the eric johnson song |
| 04:23.13 | Mike-N-Go | I'm a hunter, my guild is in EYE, why does he frown on me FDing to not die on boss fights? |
| 04:23.14 | Shirik | I <3 <3 <3 that song |
| 04:23.19 | fromatz | yeah its a good one |
| 04:23.24 | Mike-N-Go | he is my raid leader. |
| 04:23.25 | Shirik | I've been playing it even though I haven't gotten to that group yet |
| 04:23.25 | Shirik | lol |
| 04:23.26 | fromatz | cant remember what its called |
| 04:23.31 | Shirik | cliffs of dover |
| 04:23.34 | fromatz | yeah yeah |
| 04:23.44 | fromatz | cherub rock is an interesting hard song |
| 04:23.47 | fromatz | a lot of 3 button combos |
| 04:23.52 | Shirik | yeah that hurt me |
| 04:23.53 | Shirik | but got it |
| 04:24.17 | Shirik | wait no |
| 04:24.21 | Shirik | I'm thinking of something different |
| 04:24.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | fromantz, just get rock band imo :p |
| 04:25.04 | fromatz | its only fun if you have a group of people |
| 04:25.11 | Shirik | wait no I was playing that song |
| 04:25.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | gh3's designed for those in the "competitive guitar hero community" |
| 04:25.14 | Shirik | don't know why |
| 04:25.17 | Shirik | isn't that in the last group? |
| 04:25.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | thus for humans it's frustrating |
| 04:25.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | :( |
| 04:25.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | Shirik |
| 04:25.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | this projector |
| 04:25.46 | Shirik | Mr_Rabies: I'm ok with that |
| 04:25.46 | fromatz | but addictive |
| 04:25.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | is amazing |
| 04:25.52 | Shirik | I'm in the "competitive DDR community" |
| 04:25.58 | Shirik | so it kinda just branches off |
| 04:26.09 | Shirik | really? I need to get one |
| 04:26.13 | Shirik | I just can't pay for it right now |
| 04:26.13 | Iriel | Rock band's fun solo too |
| 04:26.20 | Iriel | It's just BETTER with a group |
| 04:26.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, it's pretty much guitar hero only better in every way unless you just play a rhythm game for maximum difficulty and not for fun |
| 04:27.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | plus karaoke revolution and drum hero |
| 04:27.35 | fromatz | i just like putting on my mullet wig and rocking out |
| 04:27.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | rock band's fun if you just like to pick up plastic instruments and have fun |
| 04:28.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | GH3's good if you like competing over scores beyond just fun competition between friends |
| 04:29.18 | Shirik | That's what I'm all about :P |
| 04:29.35 | Shirik | DDR competitions weekly ftw |
| 04:29.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | which some people can do, but that's not fun for me at all, rock band's charts are more accurate to what's being played in the song than GH3, and thus synesthesia seems to occur more often |
| 04:30.28 | fromatz | when i get the status (string) of a bg, and i do something such as: if status == "active" |
| 04:30.51 | fromatz | will that still work if someone is using a german version of wow, and will pass in the german equivalent |
| 04:31.22 | Shirik | you know what WoW needs? hardcore servers. |
| 04:31.26 | Shirik | Where if you die, you die. |
| 04:31.32 | kd3 | lol, just as I port out of shat they're bringing the ptr offline |
| 04:31.32 | fromatz | irl? |
| 04:31.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | IF YOU DIE IN THE GAME, YOU DIE FOR REAL |
| 04:31.35 | Shirik | No more spirit rezzing, no more running back to your corpse. |
| 04:31.36 | kd3 | s/shat/SP/ |
| 04:31.40 | Shirik | ok, no |
| 04:31.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm just joking gosh |
| 04:31.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | i know what you mean, like D2's |
| 04:31.50 | Shirik | :P |
| 04:31.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | they'd have to dramatically increase the leveling curve |
| 04:32.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | or have premades |
| 04:32.10 | Shirik | I'd be ok with if there's someone in your party that can rez, you can still be ok |
| 04:32.18 | Shirik | but no making parties after you die |
| 04:32.29 | Shirik | can you can't be rezzed every 5 minutes |
| 04:32.30 | Shirik | etc. |
| 04:32.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | ehh, that'd just lead to one group of roaming deathguilds taking everything |
| 04:32.55 | Shirik | hardcore :P |
| 04:33.19 | [Liquidor] | Does the "Tip of the Day" proberly disappear when making a search at http://armory.artoman.com ? (It's centered) |
| 04:33.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | no ressing, no partying, ffa pvp, and one life, with a drastically faster leveling curve |
| 04:34.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd do that |
| 04:35.09 | Shirik | ffa pvp is rough |
| 04:35.16 | Shirik | it causes more problems than it solves imho |
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| 04:35.21 | Shirik | basing off what happened to RF Online |
| 04:35.25 | Shirik | RF's PVP system was absolutely amazing |
| 04:35.31 | Shirik | and then the company broke the game to hell |
| 04:35.46 | Shirik | The most important part: Three races resulted in an automatic "balancing" system |
| 04:35.56 | Shirik | two races would help each other when one becomes overpowered |
| 04:36.04 | Shirik | that one race would then become repressed, many would switch to anotehr race, etc. |
| 04:36.11 | Shirik | it worked perfectly |
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| 04:46.23 | Atriace | Was it just me, or do I remember Blizzard saying they're working on their own threat meter? |
| 04:46.38 | kd3 | coming during wrath |
| 04:46.42 | Atriace | Ah |
| 04:46.53 | Sixen | -[ |
| 04:46.53 | Sixen | =] |
| 04:47.10 | Atriace | Had 1 person in our raid last night with the wrong version of Omen. Threw everything else off, it seemed. |
| 04:47.23 | fromatz_ | anyone know if there is a global constant that represents the max number of bg's you can queue for |
| 04:48.39 | [Liquidor] | max number? |
| 04:49.25 | drc|away | is there such a thing? |
| 04:49.31 | fromatz_ | 3 |
| 04:50.01 | Sixen | Is it only 3? |
| 04:50.07 | Sixen | what about Arena and Eye of the storm? |
| 04:50.16 | fromatz_ | you can only queue for 3 at a time |
| 04:50.19 | Sixen | Ah |
| 04:50.20 | fromatz_ | whatever combination |
| 04:50.43 | fromatz_ | i just wondered if there was a global variable that represented that number, or if they just use 3 somewhere |
| 04:50.52 | Kaso | MAX_BATTLEFIELD_QUEUES |
| 04:51.08 | Kaso | in BattlefieldFrame.lua |
| 04:51.19 | fromatz_ | is there a reason thats not in the wiki? |
| 04:51.33 | Iriel | Because you can look it up, probably |
| 04:51.43 | Iriel | And, because YOU haven't added it yet |
| 04:51.52 | fromatz_ | =\, im not worthy enough to add it |
| 04:52.00 | Sixen | Heh |
| 04:52.03 | [Liquidor] | MAX_BATTLEFIELD_QUEUES is the amount of queues you are in |
| 04:52.05 | Antiarc | Silly Iriel, everyone knows that wikis are publically editable so that someone else can put the information in there for me! :P |
| 04:52.31 | Sixen | Heh |
| 04:52.31 | Sixen | :P |
| 04:52.42 | fromatz_ | should be "pubically editable pending you know what you're talking about" |
| 04:52.50 | fromatz_ | i don't, so i don't edit =] |
| 04:52.51 | Iriel | And antiarc answers the 'why isn't it there' question |
| 04:52.52 | Kaso | [Liquidor], sure? the caps letters always means constant |
| 04:52.57 | Kaso | well usually |
| 04:53.41 | Antiarc | Sometimes it means "My shift key is broken" |
| 04:53.49 | Kaso | heh |
| 04:54.02 | Kaso | AND_MY_SPACE_BAR_TOO |
| 04:54.06 | Antiarc | At my old job, I had to maintain PHP code that was entirely written in caps |
| 04:54.09 | fromatz_ | if someone is using a client that uses a different language, would a string comparison such as status == "active" work? |
| 04:54.12 | Antiarc | At least as much as the original coder could get away with |
| 04:54.15 | Antiarc | It drove me insane |
| 04:54.21 | Antiarc | I felt like he was yelling at me all the time |
| 04:54.25 | Antiarc | He also indented with a single space |
| 04:54.31 | Kaso | fromatz_ depends on the what context, some returns from functions are localised, some not |
| 04:54.37 | Antiarc | And he put braces on a new line and indented them to the level of the block they contained. |
| 04:54.44 | [Liquidor] | Arh well it is MAX_BATTLEFIELD_QUEUES, I thought it was edited by blizz on updates |
| 04:55.13 | fromatz_ | i mean it would be easy enough to just use 3, but i thought if there was a global that i might as well utilize it |
| 04:55.16 | Kaso | for most things like "active" there are usually GlobalStrings that denote them if you want to compare. not 100% sure if thats the case in this case |
| 04:55.34 | Kaso | fromatz_ its good pratice too |
| 04:55.42 | fromatz_ | cool kaso, cause i need one to find out what bg im in |
| 04:55.48 | [Liquidor] | It's status == "active" |
| 04:55.55 | fromatz_ | yeah thats what i have |
| 04:55.57 | Kaso | so your code wont break if blizz decide to let you queue for 100 |
| 04:56.13 | fromatz_ | i was just wondering if it would break if another client using my addon have a different language |
| 04:56.58 | [Liquidor] | fromatz_, check line 95 and down : http://wdnaddons.com/0407948/FrameXML/BattlefieldFrame.lua |
| 04:57.06 | [Liquidor] | Lots of good stuff for you to copy |
| 04:57.22 | fromatz_ | and learn from hopefully |
| 04:57.26 | fromatz_ | thanks for the link |
| 04:58.11 | Kaso | ood how long has the wdnaddons url been around? i still use http://wdn.wowinterface.com/ didnt realise it redirects |
| 04:58.36 | Cairenn | bela just changed it a while ago |
| 04:58.56 | Cairenn | the old will keep working though, don't have to change your bookmarks |
| 04:59.06 | fromatz_ | ..just changed it a while ago.. heh |
| 04:59.25 | Cairenn | ? |
| 04:59.29 | [Liquidor] | Cairenn, now don't ruin it. Kaso, you'll have to manually edit all of your bookmarks within 2 hours.... Or else ! |
| 04:59.35 | Cairenn | lol |
| 04:59.58 | Kaso | or they're self destruct? |
| 04:59.59 | Cairenn | someone set us up the bomb, make your time |
| 05:01.22 | art3mis | fuck grapefruit |
| 05:01.29 | Cairenn | no thanks? |
| 05:01.38 | art3mis | www.xkcd.com |
| 05:02.25 | Kaso | I think i disagree with alot of the placement on the y axis there |
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| 05:02.38 | Cairenn | yeah, I don't agree with a lot of that myself |
| 05:03.07 | Shirik | the X axis is pretty rock solid |
| 05:03.26 | Shirik | but grapefruit definitely belongs there |
| 05:03.51 | Kaso | i like grapefruit >.< |
| 05:04.04 | WobWork | Eat Grapefruit You Morons? |
| 05:04.34 | Xinhuan | read the alt-text rofl |
| 05:04.48 | WobWork | hehe I disagree with the placement of cherries on the Tasty axis |
| 05:04.59 | WobWork | Cherries are much tastier than peaches |
| 05:05.11 | Xinhuan | ever opened a coconut with a rock?? :D |
| 05:05.20 | WobWork | Involves a lot of stabbing |
| 05:05.22 | WobWork | and missing |
| 05:05.36 | [Liquidor] | http://www.knickerpicker.com/dressing-room.asp :> have fun (found by robotusch) |
| 05:05.42 | WobWork | That's why you use a huge knife =) |
| 05:05.48 | Kaso | i love the xkcd forum just after a comic is posted |
| 05:05.48 | Kaso | "Fuck Grapefruit" Discussion |
| 05:05.57 | Kaso | who can ge there first! |
| 05:08.37 | WobWork | http://www.angryflower.com/getthe.gif |
| 05:09.07 | Kaso | Ah, you make so much more sense now |
| 05:10.08 | WobWork | Even complete insanity makes more sense after reading BTAF |
| 05:12.11 | Syzgyn | GG blizz... whole isntances lags out during Vashj D: |
| 05:14.12 | Tem|AFK | !ap 1876 |
| 05:14.12 | WoWLuaircBot | Tem|AFK: Arena points from a rating of 1876 is, 2v2: 667, 3v3: 772, 5v5: 878 |
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| 05:17.03 | Sixen | Liquidor: O_O. Nice link. |
| 05:28.52 | LT | I have a CHAT_MSG_ADDON event that I want to force a reloadUI() on all members in a party to synch some save data. Is this not possible, since it seems to be ignoring that command while all the other commands come across to the party fine. |
| 05:31.49 | Shirik | it's not possible |
| 05:31.51 | Shirik | it needs a hardware event |
| 05:32.01 | LT | Thanks Shirik.. |
| 05:32.22 | Shirik | I also think I would be very angry if an addon automatically did a UI reload without asking |
| 05:32.31 | LT | It's a private addon.. |
| 05:32.37 | LT | for 5 boxing :) |
| 05:33.36 | LT | Hmm I wonder if running as a slashCmd would work.. |
| 05:34.40 | Shirik | how do you intend to run a slash command? |
| 05:36.29 | LT | http://www.wowwiki.com/RunSlashCmd |
| 05:36.50 | LT | the function Cladhaire wrote, I looked at this awhile back but enver had any need |
| 05:37.18 | Shirik | that does nothing more than figure out what function would have been called and then calls it |
| 05:37.30 | Shirik | you still need a hardware event for ReloadUI() |
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| 05:38.45 | Antiarc | Can't you just use keyclone to do a synched reloadui? |
| 05:39.18 | Shirik | I fail to see the need for the UI reload unless it involves something out of your control |
| 05:39.18 | LT | Probably... just wanted to have all the events driven by the addon to keep it clean. |
| 05:39.28 | LT | And Shirik, you're correct.. still didnt work. :) |
| 05:40.07 | Shirik | out of curiosity |
| 05:40.12 | Shirik | does ConsoleExec"reloadui" work? |
| 05:40.18 | Shirik | hopefully it wouldn't, but it doesn't hurt to try |
| 05:43.07 | LT | funny you asked, I tried that and no.. making sure my test case was correct though |
| 05:43.08 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/artist.gif |
| 05:43.29 | Shirik | oh right |
| 05:43.33 | Shirik | ConsoleExec is a secure function |
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| 05:52.48 | deltron | wow that is one strong chair |
| 06:04.37 | Kaso | That RunSlashCmd is the first time ive ever seen repeat used in a wow addon |
| 06:05.18 | Kaso | Noone seems to have any love for repeat while loops |
| 06:05.29 | AlexanderYoshi | :( |
| 06:05.37 | AlexanderYoshi | dangerous |
| 06:05.45 | Kaso | repeat until even. |
| 06:06.18 | Shirik | repeat is evil |
| 06:06.24 | Antiarc | I've never been a fan of "condition at the end" loops. |
| 06:06.38 | Shirik | there are places where they should be used |
| 06:06.41 | Antiarc | You can get the same thing and not confuse yourself with normal loops |
| 06:06.48 | Shirik | specifically in cases where the condition cannot be tested until the end |
| 06:07.03 | Shirik | what annoys me is the negative logic on it |
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| 06:15.00 | Shirik | hey Iriel, I found out what caused that probelm |
| 06:15.09 | Shirik | it's a Vista-Swing compatibility issue |
| 06:15.37 | Shirik | If the debugger suspends the program and then you go to that frame and try to click on it, Vista detects it as "not responding" and takes it over |
| 06:15.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Is there any way to get netstat on centos to display the ENTIRE hostname in the connection list? |
| 06:16.00 | Shirik | When the program is resumed, the program is supposed to take control back, but Swing just seems to create a new window |
| 06:16.08 | Shirik | leaving the old one with some black screen that doesn't exist |
| 06:18.14 | Shirik | and the worst part is this |
| 06:18.17 | Shirik | java.exe isn't running anymore |
| 06:18.21 | Shirik | AND THE WINDOWS ARE STILL THERE |
| 06:19.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Bah |
| 06:20.06 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm reading over the raw TCP data coming to my server |
| 06:20.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Just to see wtf is going o |
| 06:20.11 | ScytheBlade1 | *on |
| 06:20.16 | ScytheBlade1 | I see an abnormal packet, stop the dump |
| 06:20.26 | ScytheBlade1 | ... and it's Cairenn handing Shirik a caps lock key. |
| 06:20.56 | Lukian | hahaha |
| 06:20.57 | ScytheBlade1 | http://wowi.pastey.net/82906 |
| 06:20.59 | Cairenn | lol |
| 06:21.01 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
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| 06:31.53 | Shirik | Thanks Cairenn |
| 06:31.57 | Shirik | typing's so much easier now |
| 06:31.59 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 06:33.58 | ScytheBlade1 | The crap |
| 06:34.02 | ScytheBlade1 | My SSH daemon just... stopped |
| 06:35.01 | Shirik | Mine did too teh other day! |
| 06:35.04 | Shirik | it was really cool |
| 06:35.10 | Shirik | I compiled this program, ran it |
| 06:35.17 | Shirik | and instantly I got disconnected from SSH and couldn't get back in |
| 06:35.25 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 06:35.26 | ScytheBlade1 | <3 lish |
| 06:35.29 | Shirik | want me to give it to you? |
| 06:35.31 | ScytheBlade1 | But still, this... weird |
| 06:35.33 | ScytheBlade1 | lol, pass |
| 06:35.34 | ScytheBlade1 | But thanks |
| 06:36.04 | Shirik | hey it happened again! |
| 06:36.05 | Shirik | that's amazing. |
| 06:36.07 | Shirik | Works every time |
| 06:36.36 | batrick | :18:17 <@Shirik> java.exe isn't running anymore |
| 06:36.36 | batrick | 23:18:21 <@Shirik> AND THE WINDOWS ARE STILL THERE |
| 06:36.40 | batrick | smashT |
| 06:37.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Someone is doing a *very* small time DDoS... |
| 06:37.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Err, DoS |
| 06:38.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm, I'm not even sure it's that |
| 06:39.09 | Shirik | someone tell me how to get rid of these damn windows!! |
| 06:39.18 | Shirik | I can't even minimize them, and one of them has the "always on top" attribute set |
| 06:39.19 | Shirik | omg >< |
| 06:41.29 | Kivin | Any Euro players mind telling me if the server channels "General", "Trade", el al. are localized? |
| 06:41.54 | Falcon213 | you mean the names? |
| 06:41.57 | Kivin | yes |
| 06:42.11 | Falcon213 | I would assume so, but I play english |
| 06:42.16 | batrick | lmfao |
| 06:42.21 | batrick | vista ftw amirite shirik? |
| 06:42.27 | Shirik | die |
| 06:42.29 | Shirik | die die die |
| 06:42.38 | batrick | man up and use ubuntu |
| 06:42.45 | Shirik | nah |
| 06:42.49 | Shirik | I'll go with gentoo stage 1 |
| 06:43.14 | art3mis | any of you chumps have an account that gets shitloads of spam ? |
| 06:43.20 | art3mis | and can forward it to me? |
| 06:43.25 | batrick | Shirik: you probably found an exploit in vista |
| 06:43.38 | Shirik | I probably did |
| 06:43.47 | batrick | go forth and track it down so you can exploit n00bs |
| 06:44.01 | Shirik | lazy |
| 06:44.34 | Shirik | I wonder what happens if I try to get the controlling process for the window |
| 06:44.41 | Shirik | using the C API |
| 06:45.51 | batrick | almost done with this damn lab |
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| 06:48.17 | art3mis | i need spam! |
| 06:48.34 | art3mis | go sign rotgrub@gothi.ca for everything spamming you can think of ;P |
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| 06:55.28 | fromatz_ | ~api GetBattlefieldInstanceRunTime |
| 06:55.28 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetBattlefieldInstanceRunTime |
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| 06:55.48 | Shirik|AFK | okay... |
| 06:55.50 | Shirik|AFK | Windows did not like that at all |
| 06:56.12 | fromatz_ | windows doesnt like anything |
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| 06:56.51 | Shirik|AFK | BSOD when I tried to OpenProcess the owner of the window |
| 06:56.52 | Shirik|AFK | lol |
| 06:57.13 | Shirik | ( batrick ping ) |
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| 07:04.21 | art3mis | heh ive appearantly cornered the talasite market on this one server |
| 07:04.34 | art3mis | stupid buttomfeeder and my inabilkity to say no to its popups ;P |
| 07:04.42 | art3mis | ive got like 25 talasites listed |
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| 07:07.23 | Shirik | lol |
| 07:07.27 | Shirik | 25? |
| 07:07.33 | Shirik | I wish I could afford 1... |
| 07:07.38 | Antiarc | So |
| 07:07.53 | Antiarc | I'm pretty sure I'm the only person on the PTR abusing the stat stacking for the purposes of testing an addon :P |
| 07:08.21 | Shirik | stat stacking? |
| 07:08.44 | Antiarc | There's a bug on the PTR that lets you restack your stats |
| 07:08.44 | Antiarc | I'm currently at 105341 attack power |
| 07:08.45 | Antiarc | 3300% crit |
| 07:08.52 | batrick | Shirik: pong |
| 07:08.52 | Antiarc | 24k hit rating |
| 07:08.58 | Shirik | batrick, read up :) |
| 07:08.58 | Antiarc | And 819% haste |
| 07:09.13 | Antiarc | And 2 million HP. |
| 07:09.26 | batrick | Shirik: lmfao |
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| 07:10.26 | MentalPower | Antiarc: is it display only, or do you actually have 2mil HP? |
| 07:10.54 | Guillotine | Antiarc: how do we do it? o.O |
| 07:11.02 | Antiarc | I actually have it |
| 07:11.10 | Antiarc | It's all over the test realm forums |
| 07:12.10 | Antiarc | Screenshot incoming :) |
| 07:12.19 | Wobin_ | how are you using it to test? =P |
| 07:12.28 | Antiarc | I'm beating on the blasted lands unkillables |
| 07:12.34 | Antiarc | To see how much garbage I can get the combat log to produce |
| 07:12.35 | Shirik | batrick: I'm reading up on the error message that I got |
| 07:12.39 | Shirik | And here's what it says |
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| 07:12.52 | Keias | how do you do it, Antiarc ? |
| 07:12.58 | Antiarc | Check the US test realm forums |
| 07:13.05 | Wobin_ | something to do with swapping bank bags in and out, no? |
| 07:13.12 | Shirik | "This error indicates one of the following problems occurred in-kernel: |
| 07:13.19 | Antiarc | yeah |
| 07:13.20 | Shirik | - A condition the kernel is not allowed to have |
| 07:13.24 | Shirik | - A hardware failure |
| 07:13.28 | Shirik | - A software failure" |
| 07:13.28 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_022508_001122.jpg |
| 07:13.39 | Wobin_ | as bizzare a set of circumstances you could ever devise |
| 07:13.39 | Shirik | I'm like "Why don't you just say 'This error indicates there was an error.'" |
| 07:14.21 | batrick | it would be about as useful aye |
| 07:14.21 | Wobin_ | heh is there still a flat 1% to miss etc? |
| 07:14.28 | Antiarc | Not for melee |
| 07:14.36 | Antiarc | Melee miss is completely removable |
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| 07:16.23 | Antiarc | ROFL |
| 07:16.31 | Antiarc | Slice and Dice = win |
| 07:16.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Sorry whoever was downloading patches off of my server... or is currently, rather |
| 07:16.41 | ScytheBlade1 | I had to reboot it :P |
| 07:16.46 | Shirik | rofl |
| 07:16.52 | Shirik | some nice net admin you are |
| 07:17.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, well, some prick in texas has ~50 SYN_RECV connections open |
| 07:17.34 | Shirik | hm |
| 07:17.39 | Shirik | this your linode? |
| 07:17.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Plus I needed to update my kernel to fix the vmsplice() hole :P |
| 07:17.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes |
| 07:18.03 | Shirik | I only have one open :D |
| 07:18.07 | ScytheBlade1 | lo |
| 07:18.08 | ScytheBlade1 | l |
| 07:18.13 | Shirik | Active Internet connections (w/o servers) |
| 07:18.13 | Shirik | Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State |
| 07:18.13 | Shirik | tcp 0 52 li23-154.members.li:ssh 194.159.204.68.cf:49336 ESTABLISHED |
| 07:18.30 | Shirik | I wonder who that could be |
| 07:18.55 | Shirik | mpdelbuono@li23-154 ~ $ ifconfig |
| 07:18.55 | Shirik | -bash: ifconfig: command not found |
| 07:18.56 | Shirik | o.o |
| 07:19.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Check your /var/log/secure |
| 07:19.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Also, you need to run that as root |
| 07:19.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Or manually invoke it /sbin |
| 07:19.20 | ScytheBlade1 | (/sbin/ifconfig instead of just ifconfig) |
| 07:19.29 | batrick | r0 for ppc is so fucking useless |
| 07:19.54 | Shirik | li23-154 mpdelbuono # cd /var/log/secure |
| 07:19.54 | Shirik | bash: cd: /var/log/secure: No such file or directory |
| 07:20.29 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 07:20.33 | ScytheBlade1 | It's a file :) |
| 07:20.35 | Shirik | obviously my server is so secure it never made a secure log |
| 07:20.38 | Shirik | yeah but it doesn't exist |
| 07:20.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, right, gentoo |
| 07:20.55 | ScytheBlade1 | gentoo just shoves it into messages |
| 07:21.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Guess: you'll see about a thousand attempted SSH logins |
| 07:21.17 | art3mis | im so happy about my awesome email scrubber |
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| 07:21.25 | fromatz_ | anyone big on statistics here? |
| 07:21.27 | art3mis | and its quite simple if you actually read the how-tos ;P |
| 07:21.54 | Shirik | wow holy shit |
| 07:21.55 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1 |
| 07:21.57 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 07:21.58 | ScytheBlade1 | I called it |
| 07:21.59 | ScytheBlade1 | I SO called it |
| 07:22.09 | Shirik | Feb 16 12:47:31 localhost sshd[31354]: Invalid user penelope from 65.125.74.106 |
| 07:22.09 | Shirik | Feb 16 12:47:31 localhost sshd[31356]: Invalid user pepsi from 65.125.74.106 |
| 07:22.09 | Shirik | Feb 16 12:47:31 localhost sshd[31358]: Invalid user pete from 65.125.74.106 |
| 07:22.09 | Shirik | Feb 16 12:47:32 localhost sshd[31360]: Invalid user petunia from 65.125.74.106 |
| 07:22.11 | Shirik | it goes on forever |
| 07:22.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 07:22.17 | ScytheBlade1 | * 9485729875239874 |
| 07:22.30 | ScytheBlade1 | In your defense though, that's a pretty easy thing to call |
| 07:22.47 | Shirik | wtf is all that? |
| 07:23.07 | Shirik | Is it this guy? |
| 07:23.08 | Shirik | Feb 21 19:02:52 localhost sshd[31077]: error: PAM: Authentication failure for root from bzq-84-108-151-26.cablep.bezeqint.net |
| 07:23.10 | Shirik | for you too? |
| 07:23.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 07:23.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Nah, not for me |
| 07:23.16 | fromatz_ | what is the probability of any two battleground games having the exact same duration in milliseconds? |
| 07:23.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Mine is something else entirely |
| 07:23.41 | Antiarc | fromatz_: Slim but likely to eventually happen |
| 07:23.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: welcome to the world of exposed SSH ports, ie: the reason why I outright deny password logins via SSH |
| 07:24.08 | fromatz_ | i guess thats a good start at uniquely identifying anyone one bg from another though |
| 07:24.08 | Shirik | what do you use ? |
| 07:24.10 | Shirik | certificate? |
| 07:24.14 | ScytheBlade1 | SSH keys |
| 07:24.38 | batrick | doesn't work on a large scale system |
| 07:24.45 | Shirik | batrick: This is a personal, private server |
| 07:24.48 | Shirik | nobody uses it but me.... |
| 07:24.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Grab a copy of puttygen.exe |
| 07:24.54 | batrick | doesn't work -> not realistic |
| 07:24.58 | ScytheBlade1 | (For your windows box) |
| 07:25.08 | Shirik | there's tons of people doing this.... |
| 07:25.22 | Shirik | unless it's the same guy over tor or something |
| 07:25.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: no, those are bots, designed to scan *the internet* for :22 being open, and then attempt to bruteforce it |
| 07:25.33 | ScytheBlade1 | More than likely, that IP has been trojaned |
| 07:25.39 | batrick | using ssh keys is the msot secure sure, but it's not really necessary |
| 07:25.57 | ScytheBlade1 | batrick: meh. It also outright denys the bots. Less bandwidth. |
| 07:26.09 | ScytheBlade1 | "Oh, no keyboard-interactive auth? bye" |
| 07:26.10 | batrick | if you have strong passwords and don't allow root login you're fine |
| 07:26.21 | batrick | ScytheBlade1: that's silly |
| 07:26.27 | batrick | There are other solutions for that |
| 07:26.29 | art3mis | shirik uses abc1234abc |
| 07:26.33 | art3mis | is that a strong passwd? |
| 07:26.35 | ScytheBlade1 | True |
| 07:26.38 | batrick | e.g. iptables or a ssh monitor |
| 07:26.55 | art3mis | you could just run fbsd/openbsd/netbsd ;P |
| 07:27.00 | Shirik | I have a strong password (not a word... well not to most people, has numbers letters (caps and lowercase) and symbols) etc |
| 07:27.00 | art3mis | and stop being gay |
| 07:27.07 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 07:27.30 | art3mis | heh i use the same 5 passwds |
| 07:27.38 | art3mis | with random leetspeek in them |
| 07:27.50 | art3mis | usually it takes my 5 tries to remember which one i used ;P |
| 07:28.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: I use SSH keys and let the bots try (and get nowhere). That said, a very common solution is to run a script that watches the failed SSH logins, and then works iptables to drop that IP. |
| 07:28.52 | art3mis | bedtime for me! |
| 07:29.02 | batrick | you don't need an iptable if you make a script to watch it |
| 07:29.09 | batrick | just add the ip to your hosts.deny file |
| 07:29.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, but that is suck and manual :P |
| 07:29.23 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: I don't think I can use an SSH key unless I put it on my thumb drive |
| 07:29.37 | batrick | if you're going to the trouble of adding it to your iptable then you might as well use iptables only to do the job |
| 07:29.49 | Shirik | because I need to access it from a lot of places |
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| 07:30.06 | batrick | that's the crux of the problem |
| 07:30.11 | batrick | plus it's a big hassle imo |
| 07:30.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 07:30.25 | ScytheBlade1 | It is, and can be |
| 07:30.27 | art3mis | yay for thumbdrive apps |
| 07:30.53 | art3mis | i have puppy installed on one of my thumbdrives |
| 07:32.22 | Shirik | I'll probably just install a tool to drop IPs that are trying to log in and are having a bad time doing it |
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| 07:32.37 | Shirik | crap |
| 07:32.40 | Shirik | does anyone use gentoo here? |
| 07:32.48 | Shirik | I think I'm supposed to do something with this but I forget what: |
| 07:32.55 | Shirik | * IMPORTANT: 35 config files in '/etc' need updating. |
| 07:32.58 | Shirik | after doing an emerge |
| 07:33.24 | ScytheBlade1 | lol. |
| 07:33.30 | Shirik | hey leave me alone :( |
| 07:33.34 | Shirik | I just started using gentoo two weeks ago |
| 07:33.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Either `etc-update` or `dispatch-conf` |
| 07:34.10 | fromatz_ | i think i have a way to uniquely identify bg's from one to another |
| 07:34.27 | Shirik | thanks ScytheBlade1 |
| 07:34.30 | ScytheBlade1 | yup |
| 07:34.48 | fromatz_ | game length (in milliseconds) * time of day when game is finished (in milliseconds) |
| 07:34.52 | Shirik | haha |
| 07:35.01 | Shirik | Please select a file to edit by entering the corresponding number. |
| 07:35.01 | Shirik | (don't use -3, -5, -7 or -9 if you're unsure what to do) |
| 07:35.01 | Shirik | (-1 to exit) (-3 to auto merge all remaining files) |
| 07:35.01 | Shirik | (-5 to auto-merge AND not use 'mv -i') |
| 07:35.01 | Shirik | (-7 to discard all updates) |
| 07:35.02 | Shirik | (-9 to discard all updates AND not use 'rm -i'): |
| 07:35.08 | Shirik | basically it's saying "If you don't know what to do, use -1" |
| 07:35.57 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd really recommend `dispatch-conf` instead of `etc-update` |
| 07:36.02 | ScytheBlade1 | It's much more... human workable |
| 07:37.40 | Arrowmaster | solution, install debian |
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| 07:38.43 | Shirik | bleh |
| 07:38.48 | Shirik | I used ubuntu for a wihle |
| 07:38.53 | Shirik | I'm much more impressed by gentoo |
| 07:39.03 | Shirik | One thing I want is my fortune like linux mint though :( |
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| 07:47.12 | Tierrie | hai shirik |
| 07:47.49 | Shirik | hi |
| 07:47.54 | Duman | lol @ stats stacking |
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| 07:52.41 | ScytheBlade1 | This gets annoying. |
| 07:53.43 | batrick | Shirik: if you want a lua script that monitors /var/log/auth.log then you can use the one I have |
| 07:53.58 | Shirik | well someone recommended me a tool |
| 07:54.02 | Shirik | but it doesn't seem to be working |
| 07:54.09 | Shirik | probably because I fail at using it |
| 07:54.35 | batrick | take a look at /etc/init.d/sshd_watch* |
| 07:54.40 | batrick | on my server |
| 07:54.58 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl |
| 07:54.59 | ScytheBlade1 | So |
| 07:55.09 | ScytheBlade1 | I just had a friend whisper his guild officer |
| 07:55.13 | ScytheBlade1 | "So, can you invite my alt?" |
| 07:55.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Friend #2 whispers same officer |
| 07:55.23 | ScytheBlade1 | "hey invite me, I'm X's alt" |
| 07:55.30 | ScytheBlade1 | So he gets in |
| 07:55.36 | ScytheBlade1 | They both have access to the guild bank, deposit only |
| 07:55.39 | ScytheBlade1 | So, they re-arrange it |
| 07:55.43 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.raptoriic.com/img/wow/WoWScrnShot_022508_004432.jpg |
| 07:56.32 | batrick | I remember a screenshot of chess via the guild bank |
| 07:56.43 | ScytheBlade1 | That is slightly more offensive than chess |
| 07:56.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Just slightly |
| 07:57.21 | |pez| | it's funny how it just fits though. |
| 07:57.34 | ScytheBlade1 | No kidding |
| 07:58.00 | ScytheBlade1 | brb |
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| 07:58.22 | |pez| | also,wtf, Temporary guild error? |
| 07:58.22 | Shirik | batrick: play me in chess! |
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| 07:58.41 | ScytheBlade1 | |pez|: that's what happens when you manipulate items that moved and haven't synced to your client yet |
| 07:59.16 | |pez| | ah..haaa |
| 08:01.54 | Shirik | :set background=dark |
| 08:01.55 | Shirik | oops |
| 08:02.06 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 08:02.22 | Shirik | quiet you |
| 08:03.12 | batrick | Shirik: ok |
| 08:03.28 | Shirik | but I've been drinking lol so we'll see how this goes |
| 08:03.31 | Shirik | not much |
| 08:03.34 | Shirik | where to play? |
| 08:03.51 | batrick | hrm |
| 08:03.56 | |pez| | I want Majoras Mask to be released on the Virtual Console. :\ |
| 08:04.05 | batrick | i assume you know chess notation? |
| 08:05.15 | Shirik | ugh |
| 08:05.17 | Shirik | are you serious |
| 08:05.19 | Shirik | yes I do |
| 08:05.22 | Shirik | but I don't have a board >< |
| 08:05.42 | batrick | you don't have a free chess prog with vista? |
| 08:05.44 | batrick | thought it had one? |
| 08:06.33 | Shirik | uh |
| 08:06.34 | Shirik | do I? |
| 08:06.52 | Shirik | CHESS TITANS! |
| 08:06.54 | Shirik | lol |
| 08:07.12 | Shirik | ooh it's all 3d-like |
| 08:07.15 | Shirik | I call white |
| 08:07.34 | MentalPower|ZZzz | ok... |
| 08:07.47 | MentalPower|ZZzz | so you guys are going to play chess via IRC... |
| 08:07.54 | Shirik | hells yeah |
| 08:07.55 | MentalPower|ZZzz | I'll have to see the logs of it tomorrow |
| 08:07.56 | MentalPower|ZZzz | gnight |
| 08:08.02 | Shirik | batrick, you ready? |
| 08:08.03 | MentalPower|ZZzz | good luck to both |
| 08:08.09 | batrick | Shirik: sure |
| 08:08.17 | Shirik | are we playing in this channel? |
| 08:08.25 | batrick | why not |
| 08:08.26 | MentalPower|ZZzz | ofc! |
| 08:08.30 | Shirik | d4 |
| 08:08.32 | MentalPower|ZZzz | gnight all |
| 08:08.33 | ScytheBlade1 | http://wowi.pastey.net/82907 <-- that traffic bothers me |
| 08:08.42 | batrick | MentalPower|ZZzz wants to see it |
| 08:08.44 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.overheardinnewyork.com/archives/013691.html |
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| 08:09.06 | batrick | Shirik: d5 |
| 08:09.17 | Shirik | batrick: c4 |
| 08:09.34 | batrick | d5xc4 |
| 08:09.48 | Shirik | e4 |
| 08:10.43 | batrick | Nc6 |
| 08:10.43 | Elkano | playing battleships? |
| 08:10.55 | Shirik | lol no |
| 08:10.56 | Shirik | chess |
| 08:11.33 | Elkano | would have been my next guess I think... or some hex stuff |
| 08:12.09 | Shirik | Be3 |
| 08:12.42 | Shirik | Elkano: And I'm winning |
| 08:12.50 | Shirik | I already have 20 of batrick's pieces |
| 08:14.07 | Shirik | batrick: If I were that pawn at d4 right now I would be pissing my pants. It's like everything's staring at him |
| 08:14.08 | batrick | cxb3 |
| 08:14.33 | Shirik | .. what? |
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| 08:14.41 | batrick | o shit |
| 08:14.54 | batrick | i read that as b3 instead of Be3 hahahaha |
| 08:14.59 | Shirik | hahaha |
| 08:15.00 | Shirik | yeah |
| 08:15.01 | Shirik | no >< |
| 08:15.48 | batrick | this is rediculous there's not undo move on this chess program |
| 08:15.49 | batrick | ffs |
| 08:15.54 | Shirik | hahaha |
| 08:15.58 | Shirik | at least you have a log of everything |
| 08:18.41 | Shirik | did you get it worked out batrick? |
| 08:18.45 | batrick | ya |
| 08:19.06 | Elkano | omg... lol? http://www.wowdb.com/item.aspx?id=34837 |
| 08:19.13 | batrick | e5 |
| 08:19.19 | Shirik | YES! |
| 08:19.20 | Shirik | AWESOME |
| 08:19.31 | Shirik | I need one of those |
| 08:20.40 | Shirik | Nf3 |
| 08:20.51 | Kalroth | Gt8! |
| 08:20.52 | Shirik | in a second here, batrick, everything is going to explode >< |
| 08:20.59 | batrick | indeed |
| 08:21.28 | |pez| | oh, ffs, just because I point out things, and don't add a :D at the end of my e-mail, does not make me negative... |
| 08:21.39 | Shirik | yes |
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| 08:21.55 | Shirik | you're supposed to have a :D, ^^, or ;) at the end of every email |
| 08:22.05 | mikma | :P :/ :I |
| 08:22.07 | Kalroth | |pez|: Yes it does!!! :D :D |
| 08:22.16 | |pez| | No it doesn't! |
| 08:22.23 | Shirik | obviously it does |
| 08:22.25 | Shirik | you're losing 3-1 right now |
| 08:22.30 | Shirik | majority rules |
| 08:22.35 | |pez| | You'e all wrong! |
| 08:22.49 | batrick | Bd6 |
| 08:23.41 | |pez| | this is however, horribly annoying, but I do not enjoy being told to try being positive, when I've not done anything to seem negative. |
| 08:23.57 | Kalroth | |pez|: Now you're being negative again. |
| 08:24.05 | |pez| | I am negative now. |
| 08:24.09 | |pez| | but I wasn't, in the mail. |
| 08:24.27 | Kalroth | You've been using emails for how long now? 10 years? :) |
| 08:24.34 | |pez| | now I'm actually more pissed off. |
| 08:24.56 | |pez| | naah, didn't get my own e-mail until I was like.. 13-14 or something. |
| 08:25.01 | |pez| | which makes it.. 8 year. |
| 08:25.02 | |pez| | s |
| 08:25.07 | Kalroth | Jeez kid |
| 08:25.55 | Shirik | batrick: I think everything just exploded |
| 08:26.16 | Shirik | nope not quite, nm |
| 08:26.18 | Shirik | one tiny problem |
| 08:26.19 | Shirik | oh well |
| 08:27.21 | Shirik | batrick: Bxc4 |
| 08:27.57 | |pez| | I get bickered at because I seemingly mentioned the wrong time of day for dinner on last years The Gathering (crewdinner) and yet all sources I can find says the time I said. And I pointed this out to the person bickering, which happened to be my crewchief. |
| 08:28.20 | |pez| | and I get told "but this years menu isn't out yet! they're only suggestions, can you please try to be positive" |
| 08:28.32 | |pez| | and I'm sitting here thinking... I said nothing about THIS YEARS The Gathering. |
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| 08:29.12 | |pez| | And the topic before that, was last years The Gathering. |
| 08:29.35 | |pez| | So I really don't get it. |
| 08:30.01 | |pez| | She gets offended when people, like myself, come with suggestions on how to perhaps improve things. |
| 08:30.16 | |pez| | and I just get a "no" smacked in the face, without ANY good reason what so ever. |
| 08:30.48 | |pez| | I'd accept a no, if I could get some numbers and proof that said it couldn't be so. |
| 08:31.08 | batrick | Bg4 |
| 08:31.45 | |pez| | batrick: hmm? |
| 08:31.52 | |pez| | I can shut up, just tell me to... :P |
| 08:32.06 | batrick | i'm talking to shirik :P |
| 08:32.18 | |pez| | Aha |
| 08:32.37 | Shirik | you um |
| 08:32.49 | Shirik | you have no bishop that can move to g4 o.o |
| 08:33.11 | batrick | Bishop at c8 to c4? |
| 08:33.14 | batrick | err |
| 08:33.15 | batrick | g4* |
| 08:33.32 | Shirik | f4? |
| 08:33.40 | batrick | no... |
| 08:34.21 | |pez| | are bishops the horsy thingies? |
| 08:34.21 | Shirik | oh crap |
| 08:34.23 | Shirik | I'm counting backwards sorry |
| 08:34.31 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl |
| 08:34.38 | |pez| | Oh, wait, no |
| 08:34.43 | |pez| | those are probably something else. |
| 08:34.48 | Shirik | got it |
| 08:34.54 | |pez| | Chessskills, I do not has it. |
| 08:34.54 | Shirik | |pez|: They're the things that move diagonally |
| 08:36.35 | |pez| | Aaah |
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| 08:41.07 | Shirik | you put me in a real bind here batrick >< |
| 08:41.15 | Shirik | I'm not in a "bad" position but there aren't really many "good" moves |
| 08:42.40 | |pez| | If say you worked at a happening, which had people working in 3 shifts everyday. (24:00 - 08:00 | 08:00 - 16:00 | 16:00 - 24:00 ) would you think it was good to just have one warm meal a day? so you might have had to choose between a good nights sleep, and dinner? |
| 08:43.12 | batrick | sif you're doing fine :P |
| 08:45.24 | Shirik | Be2 |
| 08:46.06 | Shirik | batrick: ping if you didn't see it |
| 08:46.12 | |pez| | Oh, heck, I even did put a smiley at tne end of my e-mail! |
| 08:46.29 | batrick | i see it |
| 08:46.32 | Shirik | it's probably a fake one |
| 08:49.11 | batrick | Bxf3 |
| 08:49.36 | Shirik | Bxf3 |
| 08:49.48 | batrick | exd4 |
| 08:50.03 | batrick | BOOOOOOOOOOOOM |
| 08:50.13 | Shirik | Bxd4 |
| 08:50.50 | Shirik | For those of you watching along |
| 08:51.05 | Shirik | as you can tell by the sudden amount of captures, we had been building pressure along one piece for a very long time, and it finally exploded :P |
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| 08:53.55 | batrick | Bb4+ |
| 08:55.26 | Shirik | hahaha |
| 08:55.36 | Shirik | it makes this awesome sound when you go in check |
| 08:56.17 | Shirik | Nc3 |
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| 08:56.31 | batrick | O.o |
| 08:56.39 | Shirik | yeah |
| 08:56.41 | Shirik | I know |
| 08:56.50 | batrick | you could save it... |
| 08:57.28 | batrick | ^ do you want to keep this move? |
| 08:57.36 | Shirik | I won't take back a move I made :) |
| 08:57.41 | Shirik | besides |
| 08:57.45 | Shirik | your client doesn't have an undo lol |
| 08:58.00 | batrick | I just made the move on it... |
| 08:58.09 | batrick | so now it _is_ permenant! |
| 08:58.12 | Shirik | lol |
| 08:58.17 | batrick | anyway |
| 08:58.21 | batrick | Nxd4 |
| 08:59.05 | Shirik | 0-0 |
| 08:59.33 | batrick | Nxf3 |
| 08:59.38 | batrick | + |
| 09:00.04 | Shirik | Qxf3 |
| 09:00.26 | batrick | Bxc3 |
| 09:00.43 | Shirik | bxc3 |
| 09:00.55 | Shirik | well this is ugly |
| 09:01.18 | batrick | Qf6 |
| 09:02.52 | Shirik | Qd3 |
| 09:05.31 | Cairenn | (3:04:03 AM) Danalog: why am I not tired. I haven't slept well since the DDOS started on... thursday night? friday? but I'm still not tired =/ |
| 09:05.31 | Cairenn | (3:01:17 AM) Pikko: we getting attacked again? |
| 09:05.31 | Cairenn | (3:01:30 AM) Nizdaar: ya |
| 09:05.31 | Cairenn | (3:01:34 AM) Nizdaar: have been for the last 2 hours |
| 09:05.31 | Cairenn | (3:02:42 AM) Nizdaar: One IP address alone has sent over 14 million bogus dns requests to us in the last 25 minutes |
| 09:05.33 | batrick | Ne7 |
| 09:05.34 | Cairenn | (3:02:50 AM) Pikko: sheesh |
| 09:05.36 | Cairenn | (3:03:07 AM) Nizdaar: Most have sent only a few thousand each though |
| 09:05.38 | Cairenn | (3:04:33 AM) Nizdaar: so far the winner is sitting at 53 million bogus dns requests since yesterday and climbing~ |
| 09:05.41 | Cairenn | (3:04:43 AM) Cairenn: ugh |
| 09:05.43 | Cairenn | (3:05:15 AM) Nizdaar: and that's from just 4 hours of attack. they gave up for a long while trying to hit our dns. |
| 09:05.56 | Shirik | Cairenn: Who are all of those people >< |
| 09:06.08 | Cairenn | Allakhazam staff |
| 09:06.31 | Cairenn | Alla's has been being DDoS'd since last thursday night |
| 09:06.39 | Cairenn | those are the sorts of numbers |
| 09:06.42 | |pez| | that's quite bad :o |
| 09:07.04 | Cairenn | 53 million bogus dns requests in 4 hrs, from one IP alone |
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| 09:07.41 | mikma | Cairenn: you have any idea where bela is flying? |
| 09:07.53 | Cairenn | haven't the foggiest |
| 09:08.01 | |pez| | I should check my linode again actually, seems I had a scriptattack yesterday. |
| 09:08.49 | mikma | Cairenn: so, got any idea how to get in touch with him? |
| 09:09.00 | Shirik | Rb2 |
| 09:09.06 | Cairenn | best bet would be to drop a PM to him on WoWI |
| 09:09.23 | batrick | which rook shirik |
| 09:09.24 | Cairenn | is it something I can help with? |
| 09:09.27 | Shirik | sorry |
| 09:09.28 | Shirik | Rab2 |
| 09:09.40 | mikma | Cairenn: wobin needs some extragood math for Xparky :) |
| 09:09.47 | batrick | uh |
| 09:09.51 | batrick | you mean Rab1? |
| 09:10.00 | Shirik | ha |
| 09:10.00 | Shirik | Rab1 yes |
| 09:10.02 | Shirik | sorry >< |
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| 09:10.46 | |pez| | hohum, I really can't name my future webdev company cuddlebutt.com... >__> |
| 09:10.52 | batrick | Rb8 |
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| 09:11.05 | Cairenn | |pez|: lol |
| 09:11.08 | mikma | holy hell dudes, that's really something |
| 09:11.22 | mikma | playing chess over irc... pro |
| 09:11.27 | Shirik | Rea1 |
| 09:11.36 | Cairenn | heh, you just clued in to that mikma? |
| 09:11.52 | Cairenn | they've been playing for a bit now |
| 09:12.08 | |pez| | Cairenn: I bought a new domain a while ago, and I have no idea what to use it for, except maybe except a fetish site of some sort. :P |
| 09:12.11 | mikma | Cairenn: yeah i had a look in the log and saw: <1006> <@Shirik> CHESS TITANS! |
| 09:12.36 | Shirik | batrick, this is where "s--- s---, who the f--- is shooting us" "who cares, fire ze missiles!" |
| 09:12.37 | |pez| | take away one of those excepts in my last sentance, and it gets better. |
| 09:12.40 | Cairenn | |pez|: I remember you telling us when you got the domain name |
| 09:12.45 | Shirik | mikma: lol |
| 09:12.47 | batrick | Shirik: lol |
| 09:12.49 | Shirik | that's what Vista calls it |
| 09:13.07 | |pez| | Cairenn: right, sorry, I don't really get out much, so getting a new domain is something shiny and exciting! and I talk about it a lot. |
| 09:13.21 | Cairenn | no apologies necessary :) |
| 09:13.31 | Cairenn | shiny & exciting is good |
| 09:13.49 | Shirik | p.s. playing chess over irc is only for the hardcode |
| 09:13.51 | |pez| | Cairenn: Yeah, but horribly boring for everyone else when I continue ranting about it. |
| 09:13.53 | batrick | reverse dns stopped working with my router it makes me QQ |
| 09:14.03 | batrick | lmfao hardcode nice one shirik |
| 09:14.09 | Shirik | s/hardcode/hardcore/ |
| 09:14.22 | Shirik | p.s. drinking while playing over irc = win |
| 09:14.30 | Shirik | well "drinking" |
| 09:15.20 | AlexanderYoshi | is lost on its 4th season? |
| 09:15.56 | |pez| | I want multiple background images in CSS! >__> |
| 09:16.21 | Kalroth | Multiple? |
| 09:16.24 | Shirik | p.s. batrick, you got that Rea1? |
| 09:16.34 | Shirik | too much background chatter going on >< |
| 09:16.38 | Shirik | chess is supposed to be a quiet game |
| 09:16.46 | batrick | 02:10:52 < batrick> Rb8 |
| 09:16.56 | Shirik | (04:11:09) (@Shirik) Rea1 |
| 09:16.57 | |pez| | Kalroth: yes, like, I can specify two backgrounds for one element. |
| 09:17.08 | batrick | heh |
| 09:17.13 | batrick | heh |
| 09:17.17 | batrick | wtf |
| 09:17.21 | Shirik | ? |
| 09:17.36 | batrick | Rea1... |
| 09:17.38 | Kalroth | Are you two even in the same timezone? :P |
| 09:17.41 | batrick | you have a rook on f and b |
| 09:17.43 | batrick | O.o |
| 09:17.57 | Shirik | wow |
| 09:18.01 | Shirik | where the hell did I get those letters |
| 09:18.05 | batrick | no idea |
| 09:18.08 | batrick | lol |
| 09:18.08 | Kalroth | |pez|: I know, but what for? |
| 09:18.08 | Shirik | Rfd1 |
| 09:18.09 | Shirik | lmao |
| 09:18.35 | batrick | 0-0 |
| 09:18.37 | |pez| | Kalroth: would make things like.. rounded corners, easier. |
| 09:19.01 | |pez| | unless I'm missing something in CSS which automagically does that. |
| 09:19.16 | Shirik | g3 |
| 09:20.04 | batrick | not being able to take back moves in this client is the dumbest fucking idea the designer could have |
| 09:20.10 | Shirik | hahaha |
| 09:20.11 | batrick | so easy to move a piece wrong |
| 09:20.18 | Shirik | did you move something wrong again? |
| 09:20.19 | mikma | so, you fail |
| 09:20.21 | batrick | no |
| 09:20.28 | batrick | I just thought about how much it would suck |
| 09:20.36 | batrick | cuz i'd have 10 pages of irc to read through |
| 09:21.04 | mikma | now that's alot of irc |
| 09:21.11 | Shirik | well |
| 09:21.15 | Shirik | the game's been going on for a bit :) |
| 09:21.36 | Shirik | since 3:07 my time |
| 09:21.37 | batrick | Nc6 |
| 09:21.39 | Shirik | it's now 4:21 my time |
| 09:23.13 | mikma | i hope you won't fail! |
| 09:23.22 | Shirik | well I'm down a piece |
| 09:23.51 | Shirik | batrick: f3 |
| 09:24.21 | Shirik | hm |
| 09:24.25 | batrick | Rfd8 |
| 09:24.25 | Shirik | that wasn't as intelligent as I thought it was |
| 09:25.14 | Shirik | lol... |
| 09:25.18 | Shirik | f4 |
| 09:25.54 | batrick | the fuck? |
| 09:26.03 | batrick | you want me to take your queen? |
| 09:26.15 | Shirik | er |
| 09:26.20 | Shirik | how did you intend to do that? |
| 09:26.23 | Shirik | Oh shit that's an R |
| 09:26.30 | batrick | I hate you. |
| 09:26.33 | batrick | cuz |
| 09:26.35 | batrick | I made that move |
| 09:26.48 | Shirik | meh |
| 09:26.49 | Shirik | just take it |
| 09:26.54 | Shirik | I was wondering why you did "fd" |
| 09:26.55 | Shirik | instead of "d" |
| 09:27.42 | Shirik | So, Rxd3? |
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| 09:28.05 | batrick | sec |
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| 09:30.39 | batrick | I saved it and removed the last move |
| 09:30.49 | batrick | <- cleverer than the designer thought |
| 09:30.58 | batrick | now do something less suicidal! |
| 09:31.11 | Shirik | heh |
| 09:31.18 | Shirik | you saved it and modified the text file? |
| 09:31.22 | batrick | yes |
| 09:32.38 | Shirik | this is a definite problem >< |
| 09:32.50 | batrick | I think the cops around here get bored and rapidly turn off/on their sirens to make odd music as they drive around the dorms |
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| 09:36.39 | batrick | so you should have |
| 09:36.54 | batrick | 18. f2f3 f8d8 |
| 09:37.06 | Shirik | I don't have a moves list |
| 09:37.37 | batrick | well thinking about what the last move was should be easy enough :P |
| 09:38.16 | Shirik | yes that's what I have |
| 09:38.20 | Shirik | I just don't know wtf to do about it |
| 09:39.34 | Shirik | Qe3 |
| 09:40.14 | batrick | Rxd1+ |
| 09:40.31 | Shirik | Rxd1 |
| 09:40.48 | batrick | Rd8 |
| 09:42.40 | Shirik | oh well |
| 09:42.43 | Shirik | I'm screwed either way :P |
| 09:42.45 | Shirik | Rxd8+ |
| 09:43.02 | batrick | Qxd8 |
| 09:43.50 | Shirik | f4 |
| 09:44.33 | batrick | Qd1+ |
| 09:45.40 | Shirik | Kg2 |
| 09:46.08 | batrick | Qc2+ |
| 09:47.22 | Shirik | Qf2 |
| 09:47.48 | batrick | Qxf2 |
| 09:47.51 | batrick | +\ |
| 09:48.19 | Shirik | uh |
| 09:48.20 | Shirik | ok.. |
| 09:48.34 | Shirik | Kxf2 |
| 09:48.43 | Shirik | all I have is pawns left :< |
| 09:48.55 | Shirik | I will now pawn you! |
| 09:48.59 | batrick | f6 |
| 09:49.10 | batrick | :( |
| 09:49.32 | Shirik | a4 |
| 09:50.10 | batrick | Kf7 |
| 09:51.40 | Shirik | c4 |
| 09:52.04 | batrick | Ke6 |
| 09:52.38 | Shirik | Ke4 |
| 09:52.54 | batrick | Ke3?? |
| 09:53.27 | Shirik | yeah that |
| 09:53.32 | Shirik | It's late >< |
| 09:53.56 | batrick | Kd6 |
| 09:54.10 | nevcairiel | you guys are crazy |
| 09:54.25 | Shirik | no |
| 09:54.33 | Shirik | crazy would be "LOL C5+ !!!" |
| 09:54.38 | Shirik | but no that's not really my move batrick |
| 09:55.02 | Shirik | Kd3 |
| 09:55.07 | Shirik | oops |
| 09:55.09 | Shirik | sorry kd3 |
| 09:55.14 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 09:55.32 | batrick | Kc5 |
| 09:56.10 | Shirik | I see what you're doing |
| 09:56.49 | batrick | lol |
| 09:57.15 | Shirik | h4 |
| 09:57.41 | Shirik | Na5? |
| 09:57.54 | batrick | yes |
| 09:58.02 | Shirik | I like that piece though :( |
| 09:58.15 | batrick | not when it's dead! |
| 09:58.18 | Shirik | he reminds me of myself, all lonely and being picked on |
| 09:58.20 | Shirik | rofl |
| 09:58.41 | Shirik | BUT! |
| 09:58.44 | Shirik | YOU FAILED TO REALIZE |
| 09:58.53 | Shirik | e5! |
| 09:59.13 | Shirik | batrick's all like "wtf are you smoking" |
| 10:00.10 | batrick | Nxc4 |
| 10:00.14 | batrick | dead! |
| 10:00.16 | Shirik | :< |
| 10:00.35 | Shirik | e6 |
| 10:00.58 | batrick | Kb4 |
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| 10:01.35 | Shirik | you can't kill that pawn |
| 10:02.02 | batrick | why are you emotionally ettached like the last one i killed? |
| 10:02.09 | batrick | attached even |
| 10:02.20 | Shirik | Ke4 |
| 10:02.46 | batrick | Nd6+ |
| 10:03.17 | Shirik | Kd5 |
| 10:03.51 | batrick | Kxa4 |
| 10:04.13 | Shirik | e7 |
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| 10:04.52 | batrick | Kb4 |
| 10:05.10 | Shirik | Ke6 |
| 10:05.23 | batrick | a5 |
| 10:05.47 | Shirik | Kd7 |
| 10:06.01 | batrick | a4 |
| 10:06.20 | batrick | "Happiness is a passed pawn" |
| 10:06.29 | Shirik | I have a passed pawn too |
| 10:06.32 | Shirik | it's not very happy though |
| 10:06.46 | batrick | i've laid a clever trap on its queening square tho 8D |
| 10:06.48 | Shirik | in fact I'm fairly certain he's pissing his pants right now |
| 10:07.19 | Shirik | see the problem is that there's two ways to do this |
| 10:07.23 | Shirik | an aggressive one and a weak one |
| 10:07.33 | Shirik | the weak one won't work and the aggressive one ... well, you aren't stupid |
| 10:07.35 | mikma | you sank my battleship |
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| 10:07.45 | Shirik | but I don't have another choice |
| 10:07.54 | Shirik | Kxc7 |
| 10:10.38 | batrick | Kc5 |
| 10:11.31 | Shirik | huh? |
| 10:11.43 | batrick | ? |
| 10:11.45 | Shirik | nm |
| 10:12.24 | Shirik | Kd7 |
| 10:12.42 | batrick | a3 |
| 10:12.47 | mikma | :( that makes kd3 a sad panda |
| 10:12.54 | Shirik | e8 |
| 10:12.59 | Shirik | e8=q or whatever |
| 10:13.02 | Shirik | it's not going to matter |
| 10:13.04 | batrick | Nxe8 |
| 10:13.15 | Shirik | Kxe8 |
| 10:13.25 | batrick | a2 |
| 10:13.43 | Shirik | Kd7 |
| 10:13.45 | Shirik | Kf7 |
| 10:13.46 | Shirik | sorry |
| 10:14.02 | Shirik | :< |
| 10:14.21 | Shirik | design a better keyboard for me |
| 10:14.21 | AlexanderYoshi | Is that what Kd3 means? |
| 10:14.24 | AlexanderYoshi | King to D3? |
| 10:14.29 | Shirik | yes |
| 10:14.32 | Shirik | well |
| 10:14.37 | Shirik | I dunno if that's why kd3 chose that name |
| 10:14.40 | Shirik | but it does mean that :P |
| 10:15.01 | batrick | a1=Q |
| 10:15.17 | Shirik | now bad things start to happen |
| 10:15.33 | Shirik | Kxg7 |
| 10:15.38 | batrick | dude |
| 10:15.43 | batrick | I should make batbot play chess |
| 10:15.47 | Shirik | lol |
| 10:15.48 | batrick | greatest... idea... ever |
| 10:15.51 | batrick | ! |
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| 10:15.57 | batrick | i've got something to do again |
| 10:16.05 | Shirik | YOU HAVE FILUMLUNARIS TO DO! |
| 10:16.11 | batrick | lmfao |
| 10:16.29 | batrick | Qg1 |
| 10:16.50 | batrick | now i wonder if I should write a Lua binding for an existing chess engine or write my own |
| 10:16.54 | batrick | writing my own is more fun :) |
| 10:17.14 | Shirik | Kxf6 |
| 10:17.56 | batrick | Qxg3 |
| 10:18.05 | Shirik | that waas a stupid move |
| 10:18.07 | Shirik | why did I do that |
| 10:18.09 | Shirik | I need to pay more attention |
| 10:18.23 | Shirik | f5 |
| 10:18.48 | batrick | Qxh4+ |
| 10:18.59 | Shirik | Ke6 |
| 10:19.00 | |pez| | I'm falling asleep! guuh |
| 10:19.11 | Shirik | But we're nearly finished! |
| 10:19.15 | Shirik | I'm going to kill batrick |
| 10:19.38 | batrick | your lone pawn is preparing to rambo |
| 10:19.43 | Shirik | pretty much |
| 10:19.45 | batrick | batbot: amirite? |
| 10:19.45 | batbot | batrick, \(o_O)/ |
| 10:19.56 | batrick | Baldor's name messes up my tab completion :( |
| 10:20.08 | Shirik | how do you think I feel!! |
| 10:20.12 | Shirik | batbot comes before batrick |
| 10:20.13 | batrick | :P |
| 10:20.17 | batrick | ya |
| 10:21.14 | Shirik | gogo it can't be hard |
| 10:21.17 | Shirik | I have two pieces |
| 10:21.25 | |pez| | I wasn't signalizing your game was boring or anything! :o |
| 10:21.27 | batrick | o whoops |
| 10:21.29 | |pez| | just stating a fact |
| 10:21.49 | Shirik | yes you were |
| 10:21.50 | Shirik | don't lie |
| 10:22.33 | batrick | Qd8 |
| 10:22.45 | |pez| | I had forgotten all about your chessgame XD |
| 10:24.27 | Shirik | Ok I resign |
| 10:24.33 | Shirik | there's no non-suicidal move |
| 10:24.43 | batrick | kk |
| 10:24.54 | mikma | Shirik: let's play rock paper scissors! you'll start |
| 10:25.03 | Shirik | lol |
| 10:26.14 | Shirik | batbot: math.random(1) |
| 10:26.24 | Shirik | --> math.random(1) |
| 10:26.24 | batbot | Shirik: > 1 |
| 10:26.26 | Shirik | --> math.random(1) |
| 10:26.27 | batbot | Shirik: > 1 |
| 10:26.28 | Shirik | --> math.random(1) |
| 10:26.29 | batbot | Shirik: > 1 |
| 10:27.36 | batrick | gg Shirik |
| 10:27.38 | Shirik | batbot: function rps = setmetatable({"rock", "paper", "scissors"}, {__call = function(t) return t[math.random(#t)] end}) function rockPaperScissors(n1, n2) print(n1..": "..rps()..", "..n2..": "..rps()) end |
| 10:27.42 | Shirik | --> function rps = setmetatable({"rock", "paper", "scissors"}, {__call = function(t) return t[math.random(#t)] end}) function rockPaperScissors(n1, n2) print(n1..": "..rps()..", "..n2..": "..rps()) end |
| 10:27.42 | batbot | Shirik: @ [string " function rps = setmetatable({"rock", "paper", "scissors"}, {__..."]:1: '(' expected near '=' |
| 10:28.12 | Shirik | --> rps = setmetatable({"rock", "paper", "scissors"}, {__call = function(t) return t[math.random(#t)] end}) function rockPaperScissors(n1, n2) print(n1..": "..rps()..", "..n2..": "..rps()) end |
| 10:28.27 | Shirik | --> rockPaperScissors("mikma", "Shirik") |
| 10:28.27 | batbot | Shirik: mikma: rock, Shirik: rock |
| 10:28.33 | Shirik | --> rockPaperScissors("mikma", "Shirik") |
| 10:28.33 | batbot | Shirik: mikma: rock, Shirik: scissors |
| 10:28.36 | Shirik | :< |
| 10:28.57 | Shirik | I lose |
| 10:29.02 | mikma | now that's interesting, you made it remember the function O_o |
| 10:29.23 | Shirik | batbot is persistent |
| 10:29.23 | clad|office | batrick: how are you handling the persistence currently? |
| 10:29.32 | AlexanderYoshi | hahah |
| 10:30.02 | AlexanderYoshi | batbot: function setmetatable() return nil end; |
| 10:30.03 | batrick | i hope you aren't referring to that crazy serialization thing i was working on? |
| 10:30.16 | Shirik | AlexanderYoshi, trigger is --> |
| 10:30.18 | Shirik | and you can't do that :) |
| 10:30.19 | clad|office | I'm just straight out asking, how are you handling the persistence |
| 10:30.37 | AlexanderYoshi | hahah |
| 10:30.41 | Shirik | you're welcome to try though |
| 10:30.46 | batrick | uh, I just have the thread block waiting for a new string to parse/execute |
| 10:30.58 | batrick | if the thread needs to be killed all previous data is lost |
| 10:31.24 | Shirik | like if someone decided to run pcall a million times |
| 10:31.34 | batrick | I've got a serialization scheme mostly done that makes that a non-issue but it's not ready yet imo |
| 10:31.39 | Shirik | look, I even have my own signature now in batbot! |
| 10:31.45 | clad|office | why are you writing your own? |
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| 10:31.56 | clad|office | there are already a few that can serialize an entire lua state |
| 10:32.03 | Shirik | --> function foo() return pcall(foo) end return foo() |
| 10:32.04 | batbot | Shirik: > true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, nil, ead shirik |
| 10:32.09 | batrick | I couldn't find anything initially |
| 10:32.15 | batrick | nothing that suits my needs |
| 10:32.16 | batrick | anyway |
| 10:32.39 | Shirik | did luatask ever get back to you about that bug? |
| 10:32.45 | batrick | no |
| 10:37.18 | batrick | --> return string.format("'%q'", "lksjdf\rljalskdjf") |
| 10:37.19 | batbot | batrick: > '"lksjdf\rljalskdjf"' |
| 10:37.24 | batrick | that's interesting |
| 10:37.46 | batrick | --> return #string.format("'%q'", "\r") |
| 10:37.46 | batbot | batrick: > 6 |
| 10:37.53 | batrick | :O |
| 10:38.02 | batrick | how the hell |
| 10:38.22 | batrick | --> return #string.format("%q", "\r") |
| 10:38.23 | batbot | batrick: > 4 |
| 10:38.27 | batrick | ............... |
| 10:38.32 | batrick | someone see wtf is going on? |
| 10:39.21 | batrick | ugh i'm an idiot |
| 10:39.24 | batrick | lmao |
| 10:40.03 | batrick | --> string.char(26) |
| 10:40.03 | batbot | batrick: > |
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| 10:45.03 | batrick | http://lua-users.org/wiki/SaveTableToFile looks promising |
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| 10:45.31 | Saeris | Anyone know what the second number in quest chatlinks means? For instance, in "|cffffff00|Hquest:11340:-1|h[Call to Arms: Alterac Valley]|h|r", what's the "-1" for? |
| 10:45.36 | batrick | Truth is I'm nearly done anyway so no point |
| 10:45.58 | batrick | maybe it hints that it's repeatable? |
| 10:46.10 | batrick | (completely speculating) |
| 10:49.49 | batrick | http://lua-users.org/wiki/DataDumper wow that's impressive |
| 10:49.59 | batrick | even properly handles closures |
| 10:50.08 | batrick | with upvalues * |
| 10:51.16 | clad|office | aye |
| 10:51.18 | clad|office | that's what i was treferring to |
| 10:51.23 | clad|office | there are a few other similar solutions |
| 10:51.33 | batrick | anything you've seen better than that? |
| 10:51.36 | Saeris | Too bad we'll never get access to the debug library. |
| 10:51.42 | batrick | ^ ? |
| 10:51.48 | clad|office | uhh |
| 10:51.52 | clad|office | you don't need it in WoW |
| 10:51.55 | clad|office | and we're not talking about WoW |
| 10:51.58 | clad|office | so we have access to it :p |
| 10:52.19 | clad|office | str[#str+1] = s |
| 10:52.20 | Saeris | A good point. :P |
| 10:52.21 | clad|office | that makes me cry |
| 10:52.27 | clad|office | because its an optimization |
| 10:52.29 | clad|office | but the wrong one |
| 10:53.05 | [Ammo] | Saeris: the number is the questlevel I think, and those generic quests are -1 but I am not sure |
| 10:53.34 | clad|office | it doesn't mean anythign in particular |
| 10:53.36 | Saeris | Thanks, I'll check to be sure. I'm patching now. |
| 10:53.36 | clad|office | but its the quest level |
| 10:53.41 | clad|office | those quests don't have quest levels |
| 10:53.46 | clad|office | as ammo said |
| 10:54.04 | Saeris | I've noticed a lot of quests have a special flag to keep them displaying as equal to the player's level, or as equal to the maximum level. |
| 10:54.15 | batrick | I think Data Dumper is as good as it gets |
| 10:54.31 | clad|office | yep, pretty much |
| 10:54.41 | clad|office | Saeris: they are dynamic quest levels, and they're used for lots of things |
| 10:54.52 | clad|office | in particular some of the holiday quests, etc. |
| 10:55.19 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_022508_035422.jpg <-- sexay |
| 10:55.39 | |pez| | I want dreadloooocks |
| 10:55.56 | [Ammo] | cool antiarc |
| 10:56.18 | clad|office | batrick: I think i'll use that to store sessions, when I get back from lurnch |
| 10:56.24 | clad|office | err class |
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| 10:56.55 | batrick | ya |
| 10:57.07 | clad|office | easy enough |
| 10:57.12 | clad|office | i'll just toss it into a database :P |
| 10:57.33 | clad|office | will have to figure out how to let someone reset their session, especially cause of memory. |
| 10:57.37 | clad|office | but we'll see |
| 10:57.47 | batrick | you need to add some stuff inevitably so it's not abused |
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| 10:57.55 | batrick | e.g. serializing long strings |
| 10:58.11 | batrick | or rediculous tables |
| 10:58.13 | clad|office | they'd hit the memory limit |
| 10:58.17 | clad|office | and i'd reset# |
| 10:58.19 | clad|office | problem solved :P |
| 10:58.40 | batrick | I dunno you can make a small table that when serialized is fuking huge |
| 10:58.50 | batrick | would be pretty easy |
| 10:58.57 | clad|office | i can limit the output |
| 10:58.59 | clad|office | its trivial to control |
| 10:59.09 | clad|office | to say the least |
| 10:59.19 | clad|office | but dunno |
| 10:59.27 | clad|office | oh well, bbl |
| 10:59.44 | Saeris | What is it you're talking about? |
| 11:06.04 | batrick | can anybody give me a quick awk command that will remove the four leading spaces from each line in a file? |
| 11:08.02 | batrick | :q |
| 11:08.04 | batrick | oops |
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| 11:14.40 | Shirik | anyone here good with iptables? |
| 11:14.43 | Shirik | I seem to have broken something |
| 11:15.44 | nevcairiel | i've been out of it lately, but i can try to help :P |
| 11:16.54 | Shirik | well |
| 11:16.59 | Shirik | all I want to know is why I can't connect >< |
| 11:17.14 | Shirik | I can give you my list maybe something will stand out to you? |
| 11:17.33 | nevcairiel | sure |
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| 11:18.09 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/82912 |
| 11:18.12 | Shirik | trying to connect to SSH |
| 11:19.30 | Shirik | ignore the grep, it doesn't show up in the pastey, I just wanted some color :P |
| 11:20.41 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 11:21.10 | nevcairiel | where exactly do you allow access to ssh? |
| 11:21.12 | nevcairiel | i dont see it |
| 11:21.26 | nevcairiel | all you do with SSH is run it through the fail2ban chain |
| 11:21.27 | Shirik | isn't that what line 4 does? |
| 11:22.04 | nevcairiel | line 4 allows full access from localhost |
| 11:22.39 | Shirik | sorry 5 |
| 11:22.55 | nevcairiel | line 5 only jumps into the fail2ban chain |
| 11:23.05 | nevcairiel | which would probably reject people that got picked up by fail2ban |
| 11:23.09 | nevcairiel | but currently its empty |
| 11:23.22 | nevcairiel | it doesnt grant any access to ssh |
| 11:23.26 | Shirik | ok so I need to add another line after it that says to accept? |
| 11:23.31 | Shirik | or before it? |
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| 11:23.33 | Shirik | or does it matter |
| 11:23.34 | nevcairiel | after |
| 11:25.21 | Shirik | hmmm |
| 11:25.23 | *** part/#wowi-lounge sioraiocht (n=rtharper@client0217.vpn.ox.ac.uk) |
| 11:25.24 | Shirik | that's probably not good |
| 11:25.29 | Shirik | oop there it goes |
| 11:25.39 | Shirik | lost connection for a sec heh |
| 11:26.30 | Shirik | yey I can connect now, thanks nevcairiel :) |
| 11:26.32 | Shirik | now to see if fail2ban works |
| 11:27.28 | Shirik | well..... that's interesting |
| 11:27.48 | Shirik | it kinda banned me : http://wowi.pastey.net/82913 |
| 11:27.53 | Shirik | But that address is very wrong >.> |
| 11:28.22 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 11:30.00 | nevcairiel | i got a freaking little shadow on my new TFT .. like the size of a pens cap or so .. damn you now i have to use my old one again until they send me a new one |
| 11:30.37 | Shirik | :( |
| 11:32.07 | nevcairiel | i hope they're fast |
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| 11:34.40 | nevcairiel | going froma 22 back to a 19" .. <.< |
| 11:34.50 | nevcairiel | i just got used to widescreen for programming |
| 11:35.08 | Shirik | well that was impressive |
| 11:35.12 | Shirik | how does this work? |
| 11:35.20 | Shirik | li23-154 ssh # /etc/init.d/sshd restart |
| 11:35.20 | Shirik | * Stopping sshd ... [ ok ] |
| 11:35.20 | Shirik | * Starting sshd ... [ ok ] |
| 11:35.20 | Shirik | li23-154 ssh # |
| 11:35.29 | Shirik | I stayed connected? o.o |
| 11:35.30 | nevcairiel | for some reason it just does |
| 11:35.43 | nevcairiel | probably doesnt nuke the thread you're on |
| 11:35.43 | Shirik | magic, ok |
| 11:36.05 | nevcairiel | some times you can even restart the full networking |
| 11:36.09 | nevcairiel | and you stay connected |
| 11:36.27 | nevcairiel | its amazing linux powers! |
| 11:37.37 | nevcairiel | probably smart enough to not accept the TCP packets at all until its 100% up again, and just resume the connection |
| 11:38.17 | Shirik | grr |
| 11:38.21 | Shirik | I can't get fail2ban to ban me :( |
| 11:38.29 | Shirik | The logs say it's trying to ban me |
| 11:38.31 | Shirik | it just doesn |
| 11:38.46 | nevcairiel | ssh is a default rule in fail2ban, right? |
| 11:38.58 | nevcairiel | nothing you build yourself? |
| 11:39.11 | Shirik | well all I did was change it from "enabled=false" to "enabled=true" |
| 11:39.14 | Shirik | the rest of the configuration was there |
| 11:39.23 | Shirik | but I did have to change one thing (the log file it monitors) |
| 11:39.27 | Shirik | but it's surely catching i |
| 11:39.36 | Shirik | 2008-02-25 06:26:58,506 fail2ban.actions: WARNING [ssh-iptables] Ban 194.159.204.68 |
| 11:40.27 | Shirik | wait |
| 11:40.27 | Shirik | wtf? |
| 11:40.29 | Shirik | That's backwards |
| 11:40.36 | Shirik | my IP's 68.204.159.194... |
| 11:40.42 | nevcairiel | hah |
| 11:41.06 | nevcairiel | whats the regex line? |
| 11:41.35 | nevcairiel | and a sample auth.log line |
| 11:42.36 | Shirik | failregex = Authentication failure for .* from <HOST>$ |
| 11:42.36 | Shirik | Failed [-/\w]+ for .* from <HOST>$ |
| 11:42.37 | Shirik | ROOT LOGIN REFUSED .* FROM <HOST>$ |
| 11:42.37 | Shirik | [iI](?:llegal|nvalid) user .* from <HOST>$ |
| 11:43.24 | Shirik | sample failure? |
| 11:43.34 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 11:44.05 | Shirik | well |
| 11:44.10 | Shirik | gentoo puts all their messages in one file so >< |
| 11:44.13 | Shirik | Feb 25 02:47:04 localhost sshd[8297]: error: PAM: Authentication failure for illegal user ljkawe from 194.159.204.68.cfl.res.rr.com |
| 11:44.13 | Shirik | Feb 25 02:47:04 localhost sshd[8297]: Failed keyboard-interactive/pam for invalid user ljkawe from 68.204.159.194 port 49440 ssh2 |
| 11:44.13 | Shirik | Feb 25 02:47:04 localhost sshd(pam_unix)[8301]: check pass; user unknown |
| 11:44.13 | Shirik | Feb 25 02:47:04 localhost sshd(pam_unix)[8301]: authentication failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=ssh ruser= rhost=194.159.204.68.cfl.res.rr.com |
| 11:44.20 | Shirik | that's from one failure |
| 11:44.27 | Shirik | oh |
| 11:44.29 | Shirik | oh. |
| 11:44.34 | Shirik | WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU BRIGHTHOUSE |
| 11:44.50 | Shirik | that's rich. |
| 11:45.00 | Shirik | the ip is backwards in my hostname |
| 11:45.09 | nevcairiel | isnt that normal for hostnames? |
| 11:45.28 | Shirik | is it? It shouldn't be. Sounds stupid imo |
| 11:45.35 | Shirik | but whatever, brighthouse is stupid anyway |
| 11:45.40 | nevcairiel | its backwords in the in-addr.arpa too |
| 11:45.41 | Shirik | regardless, problem seems to be there |
| 11:45.42 | nevcairiel | *backwards |
| 11:46.32 | nevcairiel | the problam seems to be that it picks up your hostname, and thinks its a IP |
| 11:46.34 | nevcairiel | and trys to ban that |
| 11:47.35 | nevcairiel | wonder what HOST matches for |
| 11:47.40 | Shirik | woot |
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| 11:47.51 | Shirik | Access denied |
| 11:47.52 | Shirik | Connection closed by remote host. |
| 11:48.10 | Shirik | and I'm banned :) |
| 11:48.10 | Shirik | yey |
| 11:48.22 | Shirik | I just changed sshd_conf to have UseDNS=no |
| 11:48.26 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 11:48.47 | Shirik | now since I'm banned for an hour |
| 11:48.49 | Shirik | I'm going to sleep |
| 11:48.50 | Shirik | night :) |
| 11:49.04 | nevcairiel | night |
| 11:49.30 | Shirik | and thanks |
| 11:50.36 | batrick | damn |
| 11:50.41 | batrick | DataDumper is fucking great |
| 11:51.05 | batrick | dude shirik you hshould look at it |
| 11:53.39 | Saeris | I can confirm that the second number in the quest chatlinks is the quest's level. The only question now is why it's included there at all. |
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| 12:01.40 | clad|office | Saeris: "just because" |
| 12:01.44 | clad|office | its not required for anythign |
| 12:09.17 | Xinhuan | i'm not sure if its funny that there's 10 horde in PTR ironforge all day one-shotting everything ;p |
| 12:09.39 | nevcairiel | how can they one-shot everything? |
| 12:09.46 | Xinhuan | stacking stats bug (again) |
| 12:09.51 | Xinhuan | like 6-7 digit 1-shots |
| 12:10.00 | Kalroth | As long as it's only alliance that dies, then it's ok |
| 12:10.05 | Xinhuan | its annoying the npcs take time to respawn, but on the other hand it makes testing the combat log changes easy |
| 12:10.09 | Kalroth | IF should have been cleaned out a long time ago |
| 12:10.12 | Xinhuan | because there's always something in the log! |
| 12:10.14 | nevcairiel | see thats why i dont like horde, only they start stuff like that |
| 12:10.39 | Kalroth | nevcairiel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQppIIPrD-o which race is he? :p |
| 12:10.41 | Xinhuan | abc's arcane shot hits xyz for 110570 (Arcane). (Critical) |
| 12:10.43 | Xinhuan | blah blah |
| 12:11.10 | nevcairiel | grief-players ftw, get a job and grow up |
| 12:11.25 | Xinhuan | oh i'm sure there's an equal amount of alliance in orgimmar doing the same thing |
| 12:11.39 | Xinhuan | since everyone's just telling each other how to do it |
| 12:11.39 | Kalroth | "<nevcairiel> see thats why i dont like horde, only they start stuff like that" |
| 12:11.58 | Kalroth | well duh, there's a thread on PTR? :) |
| 12:11.58 | Kalroth | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4823644742&sid=1 |
| 12:12.03 | Kalroth | PTR forum* |
| 12:12.13 | nevcairiel | its US PTR, maybe you have stupid alliance too :P |
| 12:12.31 | Kalroth | Oh I know we got dumb alliance, almost all of them :) |
| 12:12.33 | Xinhuan | on the other hand, it makes opening that brutallis or whatever 3rd gate ridiulously easy |
| 12:12.42 | Xinhuan | since 5 ppl just make a party, zone in |
| 12:12.44 | Xinhuan | and 1-shot every mob |
| 12:12.46 | Xinhuan | and boss |
| 12:13.10 | Xinhuan | maybe that's the intent? ;p |
| 12:13.16 | nevcairiel | i dont think so |
| 12:13.24 | Xinhuan | to allow exploits to allow "fake progression" |
| 12:13.57 | nevcairiel | they would just unlock it |
| 12:14.03 | nevcairiel | and not do stupid stuff like that |
| 12:15.37 | nevcairiel | oh man reading that thread, the stupid masses tried that on live and cryed that it wont work |
| 12:19.47 | Saeris | Interesting bug. I'd guess it happens because bags are technically equippable parts of the inventory, so they trigger re-evaluation of stats when they are changed. |
| 12:20.12 | Antiarc | The stats go away when you zone |
| 12:20.19 | Antiarc | So you can't progress through the raid content any faster |
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| 12:20.45 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 12:22.41 | nevcairiel | its kinda weird anyway |
| 12:23.15 | Saeris | One wonders why stats choose to increase or decrease seemingly at random instead of always one or the other, though. |
| 12:23.38 | Antiarc | There's a rhyme and reason to it |
| 12:24.14 | Saeris | Yeah? I only read the first few posts in that thread. What was the reasoning? |
| 12:25.00 | Antiarc | If you move gear from bags -> bank, it decreases by the stats on that gear |
| 12:25.07 | Antiarc | The converse is true as well |
| 12:26.47 | Fisker- | stop QQ'ing about sploits! |
| 12:33.35 | art3mis | yeah thsi spam fitler thingy is awesome |
| 12:33.45 | art3mis | need more spam to test though |
| 12:34.08 | art3mis | this spam filter even |
| 12:38.55 | Elkano | Esamynn|Away : ping? you broke Astrolabe trunk in line 454 |
| 12:45.40 | art3mis | http://www.boingboing.net/2008/02/23/spongebob-squarepant.html |
| 12:50.20 | wereHamster | Wobin_, ping |
| 12:51.55 | wereHamster | people should test their addons with all other addons disabled before they make a zip/tarball and upload that to websites.. |
| 13:06.29 | batrick | that's sounds dangerously like a job requirement |
| 13:10.01 | art3mis | if people tested thier addons think of the chaos,, think of the children! |
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| 13:18.11 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:25.56 | Nechckn | art3mis glad you found something that works for you |
| 13:26.24 | art3mis | works awesome |
| 13:26.42 | art3mis | the opensource, and being perl make it the goodest |
| 13:27.07 | art3mis | 10 emails on my spam account and the only one that made it through without any testing was my test email |
| 13:27.38 | Nechckn | oh right on... like I told ya, my one client uses the outsourced company- I'll surely keep your find in mind for further reference =) |
| 13:29.07 | Nechckn | Bayesian filter intelligently classifies email into spam and non-spam. |
| 13:29.37 | Nechckn | That is the best damn thing... I've used Spam-Bayes here at home for about 3 years and it is utterly awesome |
| 13:30.08 | Nechckn | That Bayesian filtering is some scary, awesome, amazing stuff! |
| 13:31.28 | Nechckn | http://sourceforge.net/projects/spambayes For any interested party- more for the end-user end of things.. still awesome though. |
| 13:32.51 | Nechckn | The white and red lists are awesome features of you ASSP find- that is one thing where spambeyes falls a tiny bit short, but it is amazing the stuff it finds- and no damn updates or anything, since all the rules come from your end. |
| 13:33.11 | Nechckn | *or your ASSP* that is. |
| 13:33.28 | Nechckn | damnit.. of your ASSP... grrr |
| 13:40.33 | art3mis | yup |
| 13:40.39 | art3mis | the whole thing about self training is awesome |
| 13:41.14 | art3mis | i particularly like the fact the web interface has a place to c&p spam mail thats just laying around so that it can learn from that as well |
| 13:41.32 | art3mis | which should cut down on the sneak stuff that gets by filters like hotmail and google |
| 13:42.25 | art3mis | that coupled with exchanges IMF should help a great deal |
| 13:42.56 | art3mis | the other kind of neat thing is that its not domain specific either |
| 13:43.12 | art3mis | or rather can handle multiple domains so that if i end up hosting more companies on the same box im covered |
| 13:44.40 | art3mis | only downside is that there are TONS of options and most of it isnt too well documented but makes sense if yuo go through it all |
| 13:45.00 | art3mis | im gonna put it live on the clients exchange box this weekend |
| 13:45.21 | art3mis | i'd say they'll be quite happy but seeing as how they're quite happy when i dont do anything... |
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| 13:45.37 | art3mis | had them call ocne that thier blackberrys were down, then a bit later THANKS it's back up |
| 13:45.50 | art3mis | i got both emails at the same time and didnt actually do anything to "fix" it |
| 14:01.53 | wereHamster | art3mis, does ASSP create an email account where you can send the spam for automatic learning? |
| 14:02.24 | Nechckn | Ha... that's a good one, I like when you get the "Thank You" before you do anything =) |
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| 14:46.20 | batrick | man |
| 14:46.44 | batrick | as nice as DataDumpster is, it's totally unusable for me : / |
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| 15:26.36 | zenzelezz | http://www.razzle.de/Images/venus/IMG_0827.JPG o_O |
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| 15:29.21 | malreth | that's a great idea |
| 15:29.41 | malreth | penguins are nature's massagers |
| 15:32.14 | Kalroth | a linux based dildo? |
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| 15:32.52 | malreth | never say the D word |
| 15:32.59 | malreth | or the V word |
| 15:33.05 | zenzelezz_ | ... |
| 15:33.18 | nevcairiel | you're a D word |
| 15:33.32 | malreth | nevcairiel: vagina |
| 15:34.02 | zenzelezz | oh noes |
| 15:36.54 | zenzelezz | I find it weird enough when people bump years-dead thread on public forums, but when they do it on our guild forum... |
| 15:40.00 | zenzelezz | okay, I give in, what's the D word... Delphi? |
| 15:42.23 | malreth | Defective |
| 15:42.34 | zenzelezz | aren't those synonyms? |
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| 15:46.49 | Riffage | http://news.curse.com/details/6996/ - Stage6.com to shut down on February 28 =( |
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| 16:02.25 | Lopeppeppy | Hai 2 U, zenzelezz! Do you have any Mountain Dew over there? Where are the Cheetos?! |
| 16:02.36 | zenzelezz | don't think we do |
| 16:03.49 | malreth | i left my wallet at home |
| 16:04.05 | malreth | i could use some cheetos or mt. dew |
| 16:04.14 | malreth | no coffee... |
| 16:04.16 | malreth | no lunch... |
| 16:04.29 | kergoth | i could use some cheetos and mt dew myself, though i'm trying to cut back on the caffeine.. |
| 16:04.34 | kergoth | i miss you, caffeine :'( |
| 16:04.58 | malreth | i should make it a habit to keep $20 locked in my office desk |
| 16:05.25 | clad|office | i can't handle caffeine anymore |
| 16:05.27 | clad|office | its sad, really |
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| 16:06.10 | Lopeppeppy | I'm not supposed to have it either. But when I'm stressed, I crave it like nobody's business. |
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| 16:08.05 | kergoth | i'm sure its all in my head, but i swear i can't code worth a damn unless i'm wound up on caffeine & sugar |
| 16:08.15 | malreth | i'd whore myself for some coffee right now |
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| 16:10.45 | Lopeppeppy | I'm the same way about writing important term papers and wine coolers.... I can't write technical psych papers without a drink! |
| 16:10.46 | Esine | guys, what if I wanted to become friendly with Bloodsail Buccaneers and kill the ppl at booty bay? |
| 16:10.58 | Esine | anything nice with Bloodsail? |
| 16:11.05 | Esine | I'm lvl 70 FYI |
| 16:11.08 | zenzelezz | not much |
| 16:11.16 | malreth | you get a hat |
| 16:11.22 | Esine | could I still access booty bay? |
| 16:11.25 | nevcairiel | its just fun to gank the booby bay guys =P |
| 16:11.27 | malreth | oh my now |
| 16:11.31 | malreth | s/now/no/ |
| 16:11.36 | Esine | :< |
| 16:11.48 | zenzelezz | http://www.wowwiki.com/Bloodsail_Buccaneers#Reputation_List |
| 16:11.55 | Esine | maybe Icould get friendly with bloodsail, get the hat and become honored with booty bay again! |
| 16:12.05 | malreth | you'd have to go double-cross and murder millions of bloodsails |
| 16:12.15 | Esine | :[ |
| 16:12.29 | malreth | legends will speak of your name |
| 16:12.38 | Esine | but killing bruisers decreases the rep like 150 |
| 16:12.44 | malreth | Esine, The Pirate Bane |
| 16:12.50 | Esine | and increases rep with bloodsail 125 or so |
| 16:13.08 | nevcairiel | and one bloodsail gives you 15 rep or so =P |
| 16:13.14 | Esine | :/ |
| 16:14.12 | Lopeppeppy | This one is a rep you can't easily skate back and forth around. You have to decide, and then live with your choice forever unless you've got the patience of a saint and nothing better to do than murder millions of little lowbie mobs. |
| 16:15.00 | Esine | to get from neutral to friendly with booty bay it's only 200 bloodsails |
| 16:15.05 | Esine | and the bloodsails die with one hit so |
| 16:15.35 | nevcairiel | yeah but what are you with booty now and what with bloodsail? |
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| 16:23.05 | Keias | mmm Mountain Dew |
| 16:25.15 | Lopeppeppy | Does want. |
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| 16:27.56 | Tem|AFK | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=8350 |
| 16:28.04 | Tem|AFK | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34837 |
| 16:28.23 | nevcairiel | haha yeah |
| 16:28.33 | Esine | <nevcairiel> yeah but what are you with booty now and what with bloodsail? <- honored with booty bay hated with bloodsail |
| 16:29.42 | Keias | I'll share Lopeppeppy, but you can't have all of it! |
| 16:30.07 | zenzelezz | I would not share Lopeppeppy, I'd keep her all to myself |
| 16:31.27 | malreth | i remember fishing up The 1 Ring years ago |
| 16:32.11 | nevcairiel | the 1 ring should've had a use to grant you invisibility für like 5 seconds or so =P |
| 16:32.14 | malreth | i put it up for auction on the trade channel and got numerous tells saying that "it should be destroyed!" |
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| 16:32.37 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 16:32.54 | malreth | i think i got 20g for it or something |
| 16:33.54 | malreth | the comments on wowhead are priceless |
| 16:34.06 | malreth | "You will need a raid with 4 gnome rogues/warriors, 1 human mage, one dwarf warrior, one night elf hunter, and 2 human warriors. |
| 16:34.06 | nevcairiel | haha yeah |
| 16:34.07 | malreth | I won't lie to you, some of you will die, with no healers in the party." |
| 16:34.48 | nevcairiel | "Make sure the mage has some feathers, or he'll regret it." |
| 16:34.48 | nevcairiel | :P |
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| 16:36.19 | nevcairiel | mm i need to watch that again |
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| 16:37.56 | zenzelezz | watch? |
| 16:39.14 | nevcairiel | lotr |
| 16:39.26 | zenzelezz | read, you heathen |
| 16:39.52 | nevcairiel | already read it 2 times |
| 16:39.57 | nevcairiel | wathcing is fun too |
| 16:40.06 | nevcairiel | the movies arent that bad compared to the book |
| 16:40.23 | zenzelezz | I've read it five times at least |
| 16:40.30 | zenzelezz | still haven't watched them |
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| 16:54.47 | zenzelezz | well worth waiting for |
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| 17:51.09 | zenzelezz | ahoy, mistress |
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| 17:55.39 | Cairenn | morning :) |
| 17:56.05 | malreth | hi hi, Cairenn |
| 17:56.14 | Cairenn | how are you guys? |
| 17:56.17 | malreth | dear god, i need coffee |
| 17:58.07 | Lopeppeppy | Sleepy. |
| 17:58.57 | malreth | i feel like i'm underwater |
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| 18:03.35 | malreth | i made the mistake of playing with a new lens the other day at a flickr meetup |
| 18:03.58 | malreth | now i *have* to spend $1000 on a Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8 L lens |
| 18:04.33 | malreth | i'll just add that to the $360 that i *have* to spend on flash triggers |
| 18:04.45 | malreth | along with the $110 on a new camera bag |
| 18:05.04 | malreth | oh... and the $600 on a Canon EF-S 10-22 mm lens |
| 18:05.05 | Lopeppeppy | Someone's addictions are expensive. :) |
| 18:05.18 | malreth | it could be worse |
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| 18:05.37 | malreth | i could also have a salt-water fish tank |
| 18:05.44 | malreth | and have scuba diving as a hobby |
| 18:06.04 | malreth | one guy i know does all three |
| 18:06.17 | malreth | i don't know how he finds the money for it... |
| 18:07.34 | Xinhuan | is there a way to force wow to stop GCing lua? |
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| 18:15.40 | Atriace | Xinhuan: why would you want to? |
| 18:16.03 | Xinhuan | to benchmark garbage creation accurately |
| 18:17.47 | Atriace | collectgarbage("stop") |
| 18:17.55 | Atriace | Should do it. http://www.wowwiki.com/API_collectgarbage |
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| 18:20.38 | kd3 | no, my usual personal online is k_d, I've got characters named kaydee[1-7], 3's just my most well-known toon |
| 18:20.45 | kd3 | s/personal/persona/ |
| 18:21.46 | Fisker- | SEXISM GO |
| 18:21.48 | Fisker- | Cairenn |
| 18:21.51 | Fisker- | you played call of duty? |
| 18:21.52 | Fisker- | http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a342/name_is_joseph/2624.jpg |
| 18:22.06 | Cairenn | lol |
| 18:22.10 | Cairenn | and no, I haven't |
| 18:22.51 | malreth | you can't eat irons |
| 18:22.57 | malreth | god i'm hungry |
| 18:23.07 | malreth | i'm gonna beat up my coworker and take her hamburger |
| 18:23.30 | Lopeppeppy | You don't even have some change for a vending machine? Worth going home to get your wallet? |
| 18:23.45 | malreth | home is a 25 min bus ride |
| 18:23.52 | Esamynn|Work | anyone know when did the change to make Lua compilation errors not appear in game happened? |
| 18:23.55 | Esamynn|Work | was that part of the change the made Lua errors hidden by default? |
| 18:23.56 | malreth | i have 60 cents in my pocket |
| 18:24.23 | malreth | i don't think that's even enough to get a stick of gum |
| 18:24.53 | |pez| | they have awesome fill. |
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| 18:27.39 | malreth | MINE! |
| 18:28.18 | Cairenn | lol |
| 18:28.55 | malreth | i'll probably book early today |
| 18:29.03 | malreth | once my reserves run dry |
| 18:29.22 | malreth | i'm operating on the holiday chocolates that have been in my desk for a couple months now |
| 18:32.42 | Lopeppeppy | This will teach you to always have an emergency can of soup or something. |
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| 18:43.10 | cog|work | anything uber happen while i was gone besides UnitGUID? |
| 18:43.23 | Cairenn | we missed you! |
| 18:43.42 | cog|work | that's so not uber |
| 18:43.44 | cog|work | :P |
| 18:43.49 | Cairenn | sure it is |
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| 18:44.48 | cog|work | bc > condoms imo |
| 18:44.56 | Valaron|Work | ?? |
| 18:45.07 | Valaron|Work | Nice way to come into the channel. |
| 18:45.10 | cog|work | XD |
| 18:45.13 | Lopeppeppy | ..... |
| 18:45.17 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Cogwheel |
| 18:45.18 | Cairenn | lol |
| 18:45.26 | cog|work | hai peppy |
| 18:47.13 | Xinhuan | [2/26 02:18:50] <Atriace> collectgarbage("stop") |
| 18:47.23 | Xinhuan | that doesn't help because the game just starts it up again ;p |
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| 18:49.24 | Kaso | DivX Stage6 is being shut down :< |
| 18:53.37 | Mr_Rabies3 | whyfer |
| 18:54.20 | malreth | because running an online video distribution website requires a lot of work, a lot of bandwidth, and a lot of money |
| 18:54.46 | malreth | multiply that by 6 when you try to make it HD |
| 18:55.12 | Mr_Rabies3 | noooo |
| 18:55.14 | Mr_Rabies3 | :[ |
| 18:55.25 | malreth | divide by avogadro's number if you're using good compression tech |
| 18:55.28 | Mr_Rabies3 | i still don't have a computer that can play 720p+ content |
| 18:55.31 | Mr_Rabies3 | so yeah |
| 18:55.39 | Mr_Rabies3 | my 360 can :D |
| 18:55.46 | Mr_Rabies3 | but it can't go to stage6 |
| 18:55.48 | Mr_Rabies3 | :( |
| 18:57.27 | Kaso | Your computer cant play HD content? whats stopping it? |
| 18:57.42 | nevcairiel | get a better codec |
| 18:58.06 | Kaso | lol at the avogadro's number for compression |
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| 19:07.19 | zenzelezz | |pez|: I can check if you'd like... |
| 19:08.06 | |pez| | I just made boyfriend do it |
| 19:08.16 | |pez| | I need to stop picking on random zits I get. |
| 19:08.39 | malreth | pez... |
| 19:08.58 | |pez| | malreth: want another candyegg? >__> |
| 19:09.11 | malreth | ... |
| 19:09.14 | malreth | nevermind |
| 19:09.14 | |pez| | ... |
| 19:09.40 | Cairenn | question I need you guys to help answer: "do you have any idea if there's an addon or any way to at all to change the minimap icons back to just showing your party instead of your entire raid?" |
| 19:10.31 | |pez| | malreth: continue with whatever you were saying. |
| 19:10.40 | |pez| | it was obviously something you wanted to say to me. |
| 19:10.42 | malreth | stop picking zits |
| 19:11.06 | |pez| | but it's so addictive! |
| 19:11.12 | Lopeppeppy | I haven't yet heard of a way, Cairenn, but Peppy is not paying attention this last few weeks, sooooo..... |
| 19:11.16 | malreth | it shouldn't be addictive |
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| 19:11.54 | |pez| | it's kinda like mosquitobites. |
| 19:11.58 | |pez| | I pick on them too |
| 19:12.22 | Esamynn|Work | Cairenn: afaik, an addon can't do that, unless Blizzard provides an option to do so, and to my knowledge, they have not |
| 19:12.37 | sag_ich_nicht | gah |
| 19:12.37 | Cairenn | okay, thanks guys |
| 19:13.07 | sag_ich_nicht | how do i do ANDs in lua? :> (in b4 someone links me PIL when i am nearly done and only need that answered to not write a million nested ifs) |
| 19:13.19 | Esamynn|Work | and |
| 19:13.24 | malreth | logical or bitwise? |
| 19:13.30 | sag_ich_nicht | malreth: logical |
| 19:13.33 | malreth | and |
| 19:13.51 | sag_ich_nicht | but out of interest, how bitwise? :> |
| 19:13.55 | malreth | lua> if true and true then print("yay") end |
| 19:13.55 | lua_bot | malreth: yay |
| 19:14.02 | sag_ich_nicht | kthx |
| 19:14.12 | nevcairiel | sag_ich_nicht: bitwise -> bit.band() |
| 19:14.16 | sag_ich_nicht | ^^ |
| 19:14.32 | malreth | lua> print(bit.and(0x1845, 0xad64)) |
| 19:14.32 | lua_bot | malreth: luabot:1: '<name>' expected near 'and' |
| 19:15.01 | |pez| | what is the bottomright thing here called? http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/1757990/2/istockphoto_1757990_analytic_geometry_tools.jpg |
| 19:15.01 | malreth | lua> print(bit.band(0x1845, 0xad64)) |
| 19:15.01 | lua_bot | malreth: 2116 |
| 19:15.01 | cog|work | compass |
| 19:15.07 | cog|work | isn't it? |
| 19:15.12 | malreth | dunno |
| 19:15.17 | malreth | that has two points... |
| 19:15.18 | Cairenn | do you guys know if there is a way to change the colour of the party dots? |
| 19:15.26 | cog|work | depends if it has lead for drawing maybe... |
| 19:15.27 | malreth | i seem to remember it being called something else |
| 19:15.37 | malreth | Cairenn: it's possible to replace the graphics |
| 19:15.40 | Atriace | It's a compass, malreth |
| 19:15.51 | Cairenn | anyone seen an existing mod for it yet? |
| 19:15.52 | cog|work | Cairenn: you can change the colour of all dots that share the same color |
| 19:16.06 | cog|work | by replacing the graphic |
| 19:16.06 | malreth | and i suppose you could make the raid dots have an alpha of zero, thus rendering them invisible |
| 19:16.29 | |pez| | I picked my sores.. with one of those things. My arms used to look horrible. |
| 19:16.31 | malreth | Atriace: ok... i only took drafting back in high school so i don't really remember much |
| 19:16.41 | Atriace | What does % do in Lua? |
| 19:16.46 | cog|work | modulus |
| 19:16.51 | malreth | |pez|: STOP! you're ruining yourself! |
| 19:16.56 | Atriace | Ooooh reeeaaly? :D |
| 19:17.09 | cog|work | lua> 3%2 |
| 19:17.10 | lua_bot | cog|work: 1 |
| 19:17.20 | Atriace | I was digging through Pil this week searching for Modulus, but couldn't find it. |
| 19:17.27 | cog|work | old pil |
| 19:17.29 | cog|work | it's new in 5.1 |
| 19:17.32 | cog|work | .1 |
| 19:17.33 | Atriace | lol |
| 19:17.35 | Atriace | no wonder. |
| 19:17.40 | |pez| | malreth: the damage has already been done! the scars are fading away though, and I don't poke new sores with things like that anymore. :P |
| 19:19.49 | Kaso | |pez|, technically that thing would be a calliper (caliper in us) used for plotting naval navigation charts, though the ones used for navigation are usually a little more substantial |
| 19:22.54 | sag_ich_nicht | kay |
| 19:22.59 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm doing something wrong here |
| 19:23.12 | Valaron|Work | I just borked a production server's X services. |
| 19:23.24 | Valaron|Work | Go me |
| 19:23.46 | malreth | Valaron: WRYYYYYY!!!!! |
| 19:23.58 | Esamynn|Work | ~lart Valaron|Work |
| 19:23.58 | purl | drops a truckload of VAXen on Valaron|Work |
| 19:25.11 | Valaron|Work | I must have missed a config file somewhere. |
| 19:25.19 | [Liquidor] | http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/982/messyva8.jpg |
| 19:25.40 | sag_ich_nicht | this: http://pastey.net/82930 alerts on every mana tick while below maxmana-3000, altho it shouldn't. any ideas why? (in b4 optimization suggestions that i was going to ask for later anyway :P) |
| 19:25.48 | foxlit | function invert(t) t2 = {}; for k, v in pairs(t) do t2[v] = k end return t2; end |
| 19:25.53 | foxlit | Shortest way to do that? |
| 19:26.30 | sag_ich_nicht | oh also i made an error there i see just now |
| 19:26.45 | malreth | [Liquidor]: oh. dear. god. |
| 19:27.37 | malreth | i love all of the action buttons... that's the best part |
| 19:27.45 | |pez| | Yee, kitty visiting! |
| 19:28.26 | sag_ich_nicht | nvm |
| 19:28.27 | sag_ich_nicht | found the error |
| 19:28.35 | sag_ich_nicht | o wait |
| 19:28.37 | sag_ich_nicht | *no wiat |
| 19:28.38 | sag_ich_nicht | *wait |
| 19:28.39 | sag_ich_nicht | didn't |
| 19:28.40 | sag_ich_nicht | gah |
| 19:28.45 | zenzelezz | ... |
| 19:29.24 | sag_ich_nicht | (please apologize for the linespam :P) |
| 19:29.24 | Lopeppeppy | Liquidator, that is darned sexy UI you got there. Package kplxthx? *laugh* |
| 19:29.25 | [Liquidor] | sag_ich_nicht is a spammer ! |
| 19:30.01 | sag_ich_nicht | [Liquidor] no, i'm a troll. |
| 19:30.21 | nevcairiel | a spamming troll |
| 19:30.28 | sag_ich_nicht | a troll that's currently writting a very shitty hackish addon because Parrot doesn't support DogTags yet |
| 19:30.38 | Duman | damn trollspammers! |
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| 19:35.50 | sag_ich_nicht | okay still doesn't work. |
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| 19:36.51 | sag_ich_nicht | http://pastey.net/82930 any ideas why it still prints the message on each firing of UNIT_MANA("player") after going below the alert threshold? |
| 19:38.48 | lagger | uh try taking out the variable declarations inside your function |
| 19:39.30 | foxlit | variable scoping |
| 19:39.35 | sag_ich_nicht | gah |
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| 19:39.42 | sag_ich_nicht | ~fail sag_ich_nicht |
| 19:39.43 | purl | sag_ich_nicht: Fail. |
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| 19:45.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Can someone /lastlog me and link me the last picture from imageshack I linked? :) |
| 19:47.25 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 19:47.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Funny ;) |
| 19:47.42 | ScytheBlade1 | ... actually that may be mildly NSFW, but not in a pornographic manner |
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| 19:53.53 | phunkadelik | lol |
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| 19:59.28 | Jumpee | Does SciTE recognize the elipse ... when using the Tools/Go function to check for errors? |
| 20:02.31 | Shirik | elipse? |
| 20:02.35 | Kaso | ... |
| 20:02.44 | Shirik | SciTE just runs luac to check for errors |
| 20:02.48 | Jumpee | isn't ... an elipse? |
| 20:02.56 | Kaso | its Ellipsis |
| 20:03.02 | Shirik | oh |
| 20:03.04 | Jumpee | lol. |
| 20:03.12 | Shirik | SciTE has nothing to do with that |
| 20:03.24 | Shirik | the SciTE packages on WoWI is still Lua 5.0 so it will not |
| 20:03.30 | Shirik | but you can easily replace luac with an updated version and it will |
| 20:03.52 | Jumpee | when I use it in code I get an error when I use Tools/Go. Says it's unrecognized |
| 20:04.14 | Shirik | (15:02:24) (@Shirik) SciTE just runs luac to check for errors |
| 20:04.40 | Jumpee | how or where do I find an updated luac? |
| 20:04.46 | Kaso | lua.org |
| 20:04.53 | Jumpee | ok, thaks |
| 20:05.10 | Kaso | click download then binaries |
| 20:06.05 | Kaso | you want lua5_1_1_OSHERE |
| 20:06.15 | Kaso | Wow is 5.1.1 not 5.1.2 right? |
| 20:06.23 | Kaso | how can i not remeber that >.< |
| 20:06.25 | foxlit | WoW is not anything |
| 20:06.28 | Jumpee | i believe so |
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| 20:06.41 | Kaso | not anything fox ? |
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| 20:07.22 | foxlit | The embedded lua version is modified, not sure if it corresponds to any particular release |
| 20:08.13 | |Pixel| | it's not that heavily modified |
| 20:08.33 | |Pixel| | only a few very little things are beeing changed, most of them beeing configurable |
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| 20:09.16 | foxlit | "%1$d" syntax for format is still around |
| 20:09.22 | foxlit | That's been gone from lua for a while :) |
| 20:10.09 | |Pixel| | aww :) |
| 20:10.28 | nevcairiel | i kinda like thats its still there |
| 20:10.35 | |Pixel| | and the lua version string is 5.1.1 |
| 20:10.58 | foxlit | It's not a bad feature, actually. |
| 20:11.24 | |Pixel| | well, it's all in lualib anyway, not in the core thing |
| 20:11.33 | |Pixel| | so that's up to them to tweak it as they like |
| 20:12.06 | |Pixel| | I know my own version of the Lua core is way more modified than the one inside of wow :) |
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| 20:12.35 | MentalPower | |Pixel|: erm... taint? |
| 20:12.53 | MentalPower | thats most definitely *not* confined to lualib |
| 20:13.48 | |Pixel| | rightoeh, but it's still not a heavy change to the VM I would believe |
| 20:14.30 | MentalPower | I would think otherwise |
| 20:14.40 | MentalPower | taint is pretty pervasive |
| 20:15.28 | |Pixel| | well, you're right: I've stopped disassembling wow.exe's luavm before they add the tainting stuff |
| 20:15.51 | |Pixel| | up to it, there was only two big modifications to the core |
| 20:16.04 | |Pixel| | and it was located around the *undump functions |
| 20:16.08 | MentalPower | Kaso: to answer your question, WoW's Lua is *based* on Lua 5.1.1, with some libs taken out (io, debug) and taint added |
| 20:16.25 | Kaso | and bitlib! |
| 20:16.30 | Kaso | lovely bitlib |
| 20:16.37 | MentalPower | ah yes, bitlib |
| 20:16.54 | Esamynn|Work | and string.trim() and company |
| 20:16.58 | Kaso | is bitlib used anywhere in frame xml or is that just for us i wonder.. |
| 20:17.09 | Esamynn|Work | just for us afaik |
| 20:18.12 | Kaso | Seems so, quick grep of frame xml doesnt bring anything up |
| 20:19.45 | zenzelezz | it saddens me that my guild sucks so badly at Archimonde... troubled for two weeks, last night they finally hit 15%, today they don't get below 44%... and just now they managed for the second time to air burst the tank |
| 20:20.10 | zenzelezz | because apparently it's very hard to do nothing during the pull |
| 20:20.23 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 20:20.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Memories of BWL |
| 20:20.28 | Esamynn|Work | oh yes, VERY VERY hard :P |
| 20:20.39 | Esamynn|Work | try getting 39 ppl to do nothing! :P |
| 20:21.09 | foxlit | /ra do not touch %t during pull |
| 20:21.11 | zenzelezz | we had that easy in my previous guild... if you want to stay inside, you don't fuck up the pull |
| 20:21.14 | Kaso | *lightning shield goes up* NOOOOO |
| 20:21.16 | foxlit | You mean your raid groups don't work that way? |
| 20:21.55 | |Pixel| | what's the error message again the wow engine will throw if you try to call a non-protected function from a protected one, during a fight or so ? |
| 20:22.14 | foxlit | It won't throw any error message |
| 20:22.16 | Esamynn|Work | wait, what? |
| 20:22.24 | foxlit | Simply mark the current execution as tainted |
| 20:22.51 | |Pixel| | wasn't there an error message such as "this addon was blocked, do you want to unload it" or so ? |
| 20:22.51 | foxlit | (or, rather, stop considering current execution secure) |
| 20:23.03 | Adys | yes pixel |
| 20:23.03 | foxlit | That's a different scenario, |Pixel| |
| 20:23.10 | Esamynn|Work | that's when you call a protected function from a tainted pathway |
| 20:23.12 | zenzelezz | I thought that was the other way around, insecure calling protected |
| 20:23.26 | Adys | it is |
| 20:23.31 | foxlit | And I'm not sure if that shows up as often as previously |
| 20:23.32 | |Pixel| | yes, okay, messed up |
| 20:23.48 | foxlit | I mean, it might if you do something obviously stupid like call CastSpellByName directly |
| 20:23.50 | |Pixel| | I'm just trying to find some entry points to find the taint mechanism right now :) |
| 20:24.04 | Esamynn|Work | protected/unprotected is different from secure/unsecure as well, on refers to API functions, the other refers to UI Lua code |
| 20:24.23 | foxlit | But most of the time you'd just get an You-can't-do-that. message in the chat frame |
| 20:24.50 | Esamynn|Work | |Pixel|: what do you mean by "find the taint mechanism" ? |
| 20:24.55 | |Pixel| | right, but it still rely on the same mechanism, by beeing able to distinguish code from the official blizzard one to the non-official |
| 20:25.21 | Esamynn|Work | they ARE the same mechanism |
| 20:25.22 | |Pixel| | trying to figure out the modification of the Lua VM that was applied there |
| 20:25.38 | Esamynn|Work | just different portions there of |
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| 20:25.43 | |Pixel| | yes, that's my whole point :P |
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| 20:26.29 | Esamynn|Work | btw, why are you trying to reverse engineer the taint stuff? |
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| 20:26.39 | |Pixel| | curiousity |
| 20:29.34 | sag_ich_nicht | how to get item texture path from itemid? D: |
| 20:31.23 | foxlit | ~wowwiki |
| 20:31.24 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, wowwiki is [www.wowwiki.com] the largest Warcraft wiki in existence, with over 40,000 articles. |
| 20:33.15 | sag_ich_nicht | foxlit: i alread checked there and didn't find it, durrrrrrrrr |
| 20:33.25 | Adys | sag_ich_nicht: itemcache -> modelid |
| 20:33.42 | Adys | and lookup the modelid in one of the dbcs, forgot its name tho |
| 20:33.51 | sag_ich_nicht | ugh |
| 20:33.53 | foxlit | texture, not model? |
| 20:34.01 | foxlit | as in icon? |
| 20:34.05 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah. |
| 20:34.07 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetItemInfo |
| 20:34.19 | sag_ich_nicht | argh |
| 20:34.28 | Adys | texture is not icon..? |
| 20:35.00 | foxlit | When you're in this channel, you might as well make that connection, Adys :) |
| 20:35.16 | Adys | bah |
| 20:35.19 | Adys | damn communities! |
| 20:35.44 | foxlit | Since technically you need a texture to display the icon :) |
| 20:35.56 | sag_ich_nicht | there we go Interface\\Icons\\INV_Potion_137 |
| 20:36.02 | foxlit | And textures as in things to draw on weapon models are more or less unaccessible to addons :) |
| 20:36.19 | |Pixel| | ermmmm.... |
| 20:36.44 | |Pixel| | the taint mechanism isn't a hard-modification per-se in the lua-vm.... |
| 20:38.56 | sag_ich_nicht | woho it works |
| 20:44.10 | Esamynn|Work | |Pixel|: probably not technically, conceptually it's a little complicated, and definitely took some work to get the specifics just right |
| 20:53.56 | sag_ich_nicht | I'm done: http://pastey.net/82932 optimization suggestions anyone? :X |
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| 20:56.56 | Shirik | 14* * Females must provide current naked pictures of themself to sag_ich_nicht |
| 20:56.56 | Shirik | 15 before using this software in any form. |
| 20:56.59 | Shirik | lol |
| 20:57.14 | sag_ich_nicht | 8D |
| 20:58.33 | MentalPower | sag_ich_nicht: "and ph_fuckyou" and "and not ph_fuckyou" instead of comparing with true false explixitly |
| 20:58.47 | Shirik | I disagree with "ph_maxmana - 2700" |
| 20:59.01 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik: i know, it's not ideal |
| 20:59.11 | Shirik | My pots usually hit much higher than that :) |
| 20:59.25 | Shirik | I've had 4k pots |
| 20:59.27 | sag_ich_nicht | pots can range from 1800 to 3000 |
| 20:59.29 | sag_ich_nicht | pots can crit |
| 20:59.33 | nevcairiel | alchemists stone eh Shirik? :P |
| 20:59.35 | Shirik | mana pots can't crit |
| 20:59.40 | Shirik | alchemist's stone is very ftw |
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| 20:59.50 | sag_ich_nicht | [21:59] <@Shirik> mana pots can't crit <--uh k |
| 20:59.56 | Shirik | they can't :) |
| 21:00.03 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah i accept that. |
| 21:00.05 | Shirik | Otherwise I'd have had something like 8k mana pots |
| 21:00.10 | Shirik | which would be awesome |
| 21:00.12 | nevcairiel | only thing that can crit is the healthstone |
| 21:00.14 | nevcairiel | pots cant |
| 21:00.14 | Shirik | but kinda... hasn't happened yet |
| 21:00.19 | Shirik | iirc health pots can |
| 21:00.22 | sag_ich_nicht | uhm, healthpots can crit |
| 21:00.22 | nevcairiel | sure? |
| 21:00.24 | Shirik | or they used to be able to at least |
| 21:00.26 | Cide | health pots can, yes |
| 21:00.26 | sag_ich_nicht | very sure |
| 21:00.29 | zenzelezz | I've had pots crit |
| 21:00.29 | nevcairiel | meh i dont use them usally |
| 21:00.33 | sag_ich_nicht | i assumed manapots could as well, but apparently not |
| 21:02.33 | Shirik | but yeah |
| 21:02.36 | Shirik | alchemist's stone is <3 |
| 21:02.42 | Shirik | lua> 1800 * 1.4 |
| 21:02.43 | lua_bot | Shirik: 2520 |
| 21:02.49 | Shirik | 2520 MINIMUM from a pot :D |
| 21:02.59 | Shirik | I get depressed when it's that low :( |
| 21:08.50 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik: (1800+(3000-1800)/2)+((3000-(1800+(3000-1800)/2))/2) |
| 21:08.54 | sag_ich_nicht | see what i did there? :P |
| 21:09.49 | Shirik | you are a strange man |
| 21:09.54 | sag_ich_nicht | why. |
| 21:11.27 | sag_ich_nicht | (a+(b-a)/2)+((b-(a+(b-a)/2))/2) go and simplify :P |
| 21:12.03 | ScytheBlade1 | sag_ich_nicht: okay |
| 21:12.05 | ScytheBlade1 | lua> (1800+(3000-1800)/2)+((3000-(1800+(3000-1800)/2))/2) |
| 21:12.06 | lua_bot | ScytheBlade1: 2700 |
| 21:12.17 | |pez| | with Sandra Bullock |
| 21:12.19 | Fin | are there any curse admins on this channel? |
| 21:12.41 | Fin | I'd like to make a minor request for the RSS feed |
| 21:13.09 | Valaron|Work | Sandra Bullock's at your house? |
| 21:13.18 | Valaron|Work | hurk hurk |
| 21:13.23 | |pez| | >__> |
| 21:13.30 | |pez| | featuring Sandra Bullock then! |
| 21:13.37 | |pez| | oldtime hackz0r computah moveh |
| 21:13.45 | Valaron|Work | Seen it. |
| 21:13.47 | Valaron|Work | :) |
| 21:13.54 | |pez| | I have not, until now. |
| 21:14.34 | oreth| | hahaha |
| 21:14.35 | oreth| | The Net |
| 21:14.44 | Valaron|Work | Better than Hackerz. |
| 21:14.50 | oreth| | Valaron|Work: fail |
| 21:14.54 | Valaron|Work | :P |
| 21:14.57 | oreth| | Hackers was so bad it was beautiful |
| 21:15.26 | oreth| | TFT MONITORS ARE ACTUALLY PROJECTORS LOL |
| 21:15.35 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik: (1800+3*3000)/4 :P |
| 21:15.36 | oreth| | love that movie for how bad it is |
| 21:15.45 | oreth| | also: it hass Penn Gillette |
| 21:15.50 | Shirik | I figured it out when you posted it a long time ago |
| 21:15.55 | Shirik | why do you think I called you strange |
| 21:16.16 | sag_ich_nicht | *leaves |
| 21:17.06 | sag_ich_nicht | [21:58] <+MentalPower> sag_ich_nicht: "and ph_fuckyou" and "and not ph_fuckyou" instead of comparing with true false explixitly <--thanks MentalPower btw. |
| 21:17.39 | MentalPower | sag_ich_nicht: np, anytime |
| 21:18.22 | malreth | http://birdhouse.org/blog/2008/02/02/miles-quotes-yoda/ |
| 21:18.26 | MentalPower | Fin: ckknight & Kody both work at Curse |
| 21:18.30 | malreth | my friend's kid is hilarious |
| 21:18.40 | ckknight | MentalPower: yea, we just got Indian food |
| 21:18.53 | ckknight | a bit too spicy for me |
| 21:19.16 | Fin | MentalPower: thanks |
| 21:19.19 | Shirik | welp |
| 21:19.23 | Shirik | my desktop is officially full |
| 21:19.25 | MentalPower | ckknight: huh? |
| 21:19.31 | Shirik | I cannot fit a single new icon on it |
| 21:19.49 | Shirik | oh wait I can put them 90% off the screen |
| 21:19.54 | Shirik | and then hit that little piece that's on the left |
| 21:19.55 | Shirik | yes! |
| 21:20.10 | ckknight | MentalPower: :-P |
| 21:20.20 | Fin | Kody-: what's the best way to request a minor addition to the RSS feeds of curse.com's WoW addon updates? |
| 21:20.23 | ckknight | Fin: btw, I'm really not the person to tell |
| 21:20.34 | Fin | ckknight: righto |
| 21:20.45 | Fin | same question for you, though, if you can answer it :) |
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| 21:21.23 | ckknight | what? |
| 21:21.31 | ckknight | MentalPower: he and I went to get Indian food |
| 21:21.38 | Fin | ckknight: was that what for me? |
| 21:21.47 | ckknight | no, for MentalPower |
| 21:21.49 | Fin | OK |
| 21:21.50 | ckknight | and I can't answer you |
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| 21:22.46 | Fin | (wowi's RSS feeds are great already) |
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| 21:24.48 | MentalPower | Fin: its an author's channel, hence why the peeps from the other sites have +v (and blizz folk have +o) |
| 21:25.05 | MentalPower | ckknight: oh, gotcha, at first it seemed such a random comment tho |
| 21:25.10 | MentalPower | enjoy yer food |
| 21:25.24 | ckknight | MentalPower|Food: already finished |
| 21:25.42 | ckknight | I have +v because of the sexiness |
| 21:26.00 | ckknight | you know it's true |
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| 21:28.19 | sag_ich_nicht | MentalPower|Food: doesn't work with that change :P |
| 21:30.40 | malreth | http://obsoleteskills.com/Skills/Skills |
| 21:35.48 | Kaso | ~seen Slouken |
| 21:35.51 | purl | slouken <n=slouken@ip70-181-83-160.oc.oc.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 28d 15h 43m 3s ago, saying: 'Okay, later folks'. |
| 21:35.53 | Valaron|Work | Oh my.. this salsa is making me breathe fire. |
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| 21:51.02 | MentalPower|Food | sag_ich_nicht: lemme have a look |
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| 21:53.02 | sag_ich_nicht | http://pastey.net/82932, i just replaced it with and variable then & and not variable then |
| 21:56.20 | |Pixel| | oookay |
| 21:56.40 | |Pixel| | Esamynn|Work: so, I take back what I said |
| 21:56.49 | |Pixel| | the TValue object is modified so that it contains a third field |
| 21:57.10 | |Pixel| | which probably would be called "protected" |
| 21:57.58 | |Pixel| | so there's the introduction of a lua_setprotected(lua_State * L, int idx, int value); function |
| 21:58.50 | zenzelezz | thank god, finally Archimonde down |
| 21:59.22 | |Pixel| | which basically is StkId o = index2addr(L, idx); o->protected = value; |
| 22:00.34 | |Pixel| | (protected, or secure) |
| 22:00.40 | sag_ich_nicht | gratz zenzelezz |
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| 22:05.16 | MentalPower | sag_ich_nicht: http://pastey.net/82933 <--Like that? |
| 22:06.33 | Olison | Hey, i'm looking for the sound the portals make at the Naxxramas entrance, anyone know the filename of this sound inside the common.mpq? |
| 22:06.56 | kd3 | Olison, I found them once way back when. one sec |
| 22:06.58 | oreth| | ... |
| 22:07.02 | oreth| | ph_fuckyou |
| 22:07.09 | Olison | wee kd3 :) |
| 22:07.14 | oreth| | what?! |
| 22:08.02 | sag_ich_nicht | MentalPower ooooooh forgot the brackets, thanks. |
| 22:08.33 | MentalPower | yeah, I go bracket crazy with not, I've been bitten before |
| 22:09.41 | sag_ich_nicht | oreth|: huh? |
| 22:13.27 | oreth| | don't mind me |
| 22:13.35 | oreth| | i'm just killing time at work |
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| 22:16.01 | sag_ich_nicht | MentalPower: thanks, works :O |
| 22:16.19 | MentalPower | woot, np |
| 22:19.08 | kd3 | Olison, common.mpq/Sound/Doodad/Nox_portal_*.wav |
| 22:19.17 | Olison | wee \o/ |
| 22:19.19 | Olison | sec. |
| 22:20.22 | Olison | awww, thanks <3 |
| 22:20.26 | kd3 | np |
| 22:20.40 | kd3 | those were always rather requested back when we were raiding naxx way back when |
| 22:20.54 | Olison | yeah, it sounds cool :D |
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| 22:29.35 | Esamynn|Work | |Pixel|: yes, I knew all that actually, more or less, I've never dug in far enough to know the exact variable names :) |
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| 22:33.18 | Daisho | anyone answe me a question ^^ |
| 22:33.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Depends if you can ask it. |
| 22:33.32 | kamdis | ~asktoask |
| 22:33.33 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 22:33.49 | |Pixel| | Esamynn|Work: well, I'm just guessing the variable name |
| 22:34.00 | Esamynn|Work | ahh, k |
| 22:34.09 | ScytheBlade1 | kamdis: tag team combo GO! |
| 22:34.10 | |Pixel| | but the addition comes with that extra field here |
| 22:34.30 | |Pixel| | so that lapi.c gets added with 2 or 3 functions to tweak it |
| 22:34.32 | kamdis | ScytheBlade1 ;-) |
| 22:34.52 | |Pixel| | and stuff like HookScript toys with it all around |
| 22:34.54 | Daisho | i want to know if they are already in progress, or if its possible to creat an add-on would let you look at all items in the auction house while not at the auction house. |
| 22:35.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Not possible |
| 22:35.10 | Esamynn|Work | there's a new field in the variable union, but also, function prototypes can be tainted as well |
| 22:35.13 | Daisho | possibly use btm scan files? |
| 22:35.27 | |Pixel| | well, yes |
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| 22:35.59 | |Pixel| | after all, a closure is inside the TValue field |
| 22:36.07 | |Pixel| | if I'm not mistaken |
| 22:36.13 | Esamynn|Work | which is seperate from function variables being tainted, although, generally if the prototype is tainted, any closure that uses it is tainted as well |
| 22:36.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Daisho: to be clear, "browsing the AH while not at the AH" isn't possible. That said, if you want to browse a "cache" of the auctions up, that's possible. Just note that it will go out of date instantly |
| 22:36.27 | |Pixel| | oh, well |
| 22:36.34 | |Pixel| | seems the taint comes with several flags |
| 22:36.39 | |Pixel| | it's not a simple boolean |
| 22:36.42 | Esamynn|Work | no |
| 22:36.49 | |Pixel| | that looks like a bitfield |
| 22:36.50 | Esamynn|Work | it would be a key to the tainting addon |
| 22:37.07 | |Pixel| | hmm |
| 22:37.16 | |Pixel| | ah, I see that one here now |
| 22:37.45 | |Pixel| | yeah, okay; thus the reason there's a crude luaV_settable with a newly created string |
| 22:37.48 | Daisho | Right, I understand that. How would I go about listing those items as item links or mouse overs tooltips? |
| 22:38.16 | ScytheBlade1 | You'd have to ask the auctioneer people :) |
| 22:38.26 | Daisho | lol ok who are they? |
| 22:38.29 | |Pixel| | the api addition goes petty deep in the VM |
| 22:38.40 | |Pixel| | so, yeah, I take back what I said earlier, really ;) |
| 22:38.41 | ScytheBlade1 | I think at least one of them is here |
| 22:38.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Look on their website |
| 22:38.51 | |Pixel| | the tainting mechanism isn't that much trivial |
| 22:38.56 | Esamynn|Work | heh |
| 22:39.11 | |Pixel| | still it's about as far as adding 3 or 4 functions to lapi.c |
| 22:39.16 | Daisho | kk thanks ^^ |
| 22:39.28 | |Pixel| | and extra fields to the TValue union |
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| 22:46.43 | alestane | Does it wiggle? |
| 22:47.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Mostly it sits there and looks at you funny |
| 22:47.38 | WobWork | jayses |
| 22:47.39 | WobWork | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/02/24/wburger124.xml |
| 22:47.45 | WobWork | That weighs as much as me |
| 22:47.51 | oreth| | fatty |
| 22:48.04 | WobWork | if I could actually eat it, sure =P |
| 22:48.08 | WobWork | I'd be 120kg =P |
| 22:48.21 | mikma | WobWork: om nom nom |
| 22:48.35 | kergoth | that's just stupid |
| 22:48.37 | oreth| | you europeans and your crazy system based on 10 |
| 22:48.38 | kergoth | how would you possibly eat it? |
| 22:48.51 | kergoth | its not like you can share it with your friends, you'd have to liek give them a chunk of bread, take a pieceo f meat yourself |
| 22:48.53 | oreth| | one bite at a time? |
| 22:48.56 | kergoth | better off getting one of those 6 foot long subs |
| 22:49.03 | kergoth | its too high to get part of everything though |
| 22:49.07 | kergoth | in a single bite |
| 22:49.35 | kergoth | as far as o |
| 22:49.48 | kergoth | i'm concerned, if you cant take ab ite that includes both burger and toppings and bread, its not a hamburger |
| 22:49.55 | kergoth | :P |
| 23:00.59 | WobWork | It's merely a MEAT WALL |
| 23:03.56 | Kaso | Well that sucks, my dvd burner is bitching with me so i walk 10min in the rain to goto the uni library to use the computers there, but turns out they dont have any third party burning software so i cant burn my iso |
| 23:04.12 | Kaso | and the stand-alone software alll requires a dll installed to system32 >.< |
| 23:04.39 | Antiarc | PTR patch is up. |
| 23:04.47 | Antiarc | 4.22 mb |
| 23:06.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Whoo |
| 23:06.29 | kd3 | okay, tracker... gimme some peers |
| 23:07.37 | ScytheBlade1 | 58 --> 62, right? |
| 23:07.57 | kd3 | ya |
| 23:08.55 | kergoth | Kaso: pretty sure there are portable burning apps |
| 23:09.02 | kergoth | imgburn should be able to run off a usb stick |
| 23:09.13 | oreth| | Kaso: imgburn sho.... yeah |
| 23:09.23 | oreth| | better yet |
| 23:09.31 | oreth| | DSL on your thumbdrive |
| 23:09.35 | oreth| | reboot schools computer... |
| 23:09.38 | oreth| | BOOM! linux |
| 23:09.43 | oreth| | k3b is your friend <3 |
| 23:09.50 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:09.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Err |
| 23:09.56 | Kaso | i tried ISOBurn but it needed me to install wnaspi32.dll |
| 23:09.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Haha |
| 23:09.58 | ScytheBlade1 | So, ignore that first link |
| 23:10.05 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:10.08 | ScytheBlade1 | And replace it with that |
| 23:10.11 | kergoth | Kaso: shouldnt you be able to just put that dll into the directory the exe resides in? |
| 23:10.18 | Kaso | Also the PCs are set to boot only from HDD and have bios locked |
| 23:10.20 | kergoth | dlls dont generally /have/ to be in system32 |
| 23:10.25 | Kaso | hmm, thats a good point.. |
| 23:10.39 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/UIDiffs/0.4.7962.diff |
| 23:10.42 | Kaso | damnit, i know that, why didnt i try it >.< |
| 23:10.43 | Antiarc | There's the frameXML diff |
| 23:10.55 | kd3 | sbo, email incoming momentarily |
| 23:11.03 | ScytheBlade1 | 'k |
| 23:11.09 | kergoth | thats about all i remember from my short stint of windows development like 15 years ago, that dlls can be in the exe's dir |
| 23:11.10 | kergoth | :P |
| 23:11.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Will have it uploaded momentarily :) |
| 23:11.30 | kd3 | ckk; poke. check your email |
| 23:12.30 | Kaso | kergoth the software said i had to put it in system32 and i just didnt think >.< |
| 23:12.38 | Kaso | now i dont know if i wanna walk back again or not |
| 23:12.47 | Kaso | i would like to get this iso burnt, but it is raining |
| 23:12.53 | oreth| | what iso? |
| 23:12.57 | oreth| | wait wait wait |
| 23:13.00 | kd3 | no changes to the shipped patch notes |
| 23:13.04 | ScytheBlade1 | http://files.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/0.4.0.7958-7962.diff |
| 23:13.11 | Kaso | Windows Vista |
| 23:13.24 | oreth| | oh |
| 23:13.25 | oreth| | nm |
| 23:13.27 | Kaso | need to set it up as secondary OS so i can run iTunes and update my ipod |
| 23:13.30 | oreth| | http://trial.alcohol-soft.com/en/alcohol_info.php |
| 23:13.33 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: what is -ru? |
| 23:13.37 | Kaso | itunes doesnt like xp x64 >.< |
| 23:13.37 | oreth| | wait.. what are you running right now? |
| 23:13.48 | oreth| | oh |
| 23:13.51 | |pez| | I should try MediaMonkey with my iPod really. |
| 23:14.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: ? |
| 23:14.14 | oreth| | kaso: what about andLinux, popping amarok in, and connecting to your ipod? |
| 23:14.21 | Kaso | i cant use third party ipod software cos i have a touch, which none of the third party softwares work with |
| 23:14.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: kd3 generates the diffs, mails em' to me. I upload. |
| 23:14.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Ask him. ;) |
| 23:14.36 | oreth| | kaso: i hear amarok does |
| 23:14.37 | kd3 | recursive, unified |
| 23:14.45 | Kaso | oh really? i hadnt heard that |
| 23:15.16 | oreth| | it appears, only after you've updated... |
| 23:15.36 | alestane | VARIABLES_LOADED fires after all ADDON_LOADED events , right? |
| 23:15.42 | oreth| | http://planet-soc.com/node/2760 |
| 23:15.46 | WobWork | well |
| 23:15.48 | WobWork | actually |
| 23:15.49 | Kaso | oh, you have to mount the directory via SSH, interesting |
| 23:15.55 | WobWork | I've used linux with my itouch |
| 23:16.07 | WobWork | it -has- had some issues, however |
| 23:16.11 | WobWork | it's not perfect yet |
| 23:16.15 | WobWork | but I did manage it |
| 23:16.20 | kd3 | oh, huzzah. looks like they finally got rid of the defunct options in the chatframe tab context menu |
| 23:16.37 | Kaso | given i have vista key free off msdn i might just stick with what i know works 100% |
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| 23:18.26 | oreth| | kaso: have you updated itunes today? |
| 23:18.38 | oreth| | new itunes came out either yesterday or today |
| 23:18.41 | oreth| | i can't remeber which |
| 23:18.46 | Kaso | i dont have any iTunes atm |
| 23:19.14 | Kaso | but perhaps new version runs on xp x64 you suggest? |
| 23:19.17 | oreth| | http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301301 |
| 23:19.36 | Kaso | iTunes is currently not supported in Windows XP Professional x64 Edition. |
| 23:19.39 | Kaso | :sad face: |
| 23:19.44 | Matrix110| | there is no reason to use XP 64 :P |
| 23:19.55 | oreth| | oh |
| 23:19.57 | oreth| | i misunderstood |
| 23:20.06 | oreth| | i thought you were on vista 64 |
| 23:20.16 | oreth| | there's no reason to run XP 64 or Vista (any flavor) |
| 23:20.31 | Kaso | i have 4gb of memory i'd like to be able to use it |
| 23:20.35 | Matrix110| | Vista 64 atleast runs perfectly well and gets driver support :P |
| 23:20.36 | Kaso | thats why i run 64 |
| 23:21.16 | Kaso | interestingly its the same reason i dont really want to run vista 24/7 :p |
| 23:21.23 | Kaso | (see what i did thar) |
| 23:21.30 | wereHamster | but do you _need_ 4gb ram? isn't 640k enough? *confused* |
| 23:21.46 | Tem|AFK | Shirik, ping |
| 23:21.50 | Kaso | tee hee |
| 23:21.54 | Kaso | ofc ofc! |
| 23:22.15 | WobWork | anyone know what sort of maintenence we're getting tonight? |
| 23:22.26 | kd3 | wow, it looks like all they changed was the client executable and the UI this build |
| 23:22.56 | wereHamster | changelog: bump the client build version. |
| 23:23.14 | Tem|AFK | okay, wtf |
| 23:23.48 | wereHamster | .. like the /bin/true.sh script that had "version: 1.6" in it. 6 versions to get 'true' right... |
| 23:24.20 | Tem|AFK | http://tardmrr.pastey.net/82935 |
| 23:25.15 | wereHamster | is that java? |
| 23:25.17 | Tem|AFK | Any ideas? |
| 23:25.33 | Tem|AFK | it is |
| 23:25.38 | wereHamster | string comparison with == ?? |
| 23:26.01 | wereHamster | ("IF").isEquals(name) |
| 23:26.08 | wereHamster | or something like that |
| 23:26.09 | Tem|AFK | .. I _think_ it's legal |
| 23:26.14 | Kaso | .equals() |
| 23:26.19 | wereHamster | do you think or know? :) |
| 23:26.46 | Tem|AFK | yup, lawl |
| 23:26.47 | Tem|AFK | thanks |
| 23:27.17 | Kaso | Tem|AFK, == compares objects not strings, sometimes through optimisations strings objects can be the same, but i think thats not behavour you can rely on across VMs, its def not "proper" behavour |
| 23:27.30 | Tem|AFK | Kaso, yeah, I know |
| 23:27.31 | wereHamster | that reminds me, at my exams next week, I should know these things. Programing in java was the course :-/ |
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| 23:27.34 | Tem|AFK | it's been a ... long |
| 23:27.35 | Tem|AFK | day |
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| 23:27.53 | oreth| | oh man |
| 23:27.54 | oreth| | need caffiene |
| 23:27.57 | oreth| | running on empty |
| 23:28.47 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 23:29.06 | oreth| | deeeewwww.... |
| 23:29.14 | oreth| | neeeeed... deeeeewwwww |
| 23:31.34 | WobWork | dya know |
| 23:31.43 | WobWork | Mtn Dew isn't caffinated over here |
| 23:33.14 | AnduinLothar | lol, wat? |
| 23:33.47 | WobWork | It's just sugar water =) |
| 23:34.57 | Syzgyn | WobWork: That sucks for you :( |
| 23:35.05 | ckknight | kd3: <3 |
| 23:40.50 | oreth| | caffiene is my friend |
| 23:43.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh. That was fast. |
| 23:43.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Never mind! |
| 23:43.15 | Shirik | Uh |
| 23:43.16 | oreth| | that's what She said |
| 23:43.19 | Shirik | http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/02/nations-spies-w.html |
| 23:43.21 | Shirik | no words |
| 23:43.22 | Shirik | just read |
| 23:43.33 | oreth| | posted it a few days ago, shirik |
| 23:43.38 | Shirik | oh heh |
| 23:43.40 | kd3 | I've been laughing at that since it first got posted |
| 23:44.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, same |
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| 23:45.00 | AnduinLothar | anyone know how much people usually charge for votexes? |
| 23:45.13 | Shirik | uh |
| 23:45.16 | Shirik | you can't buy them... yet |
| 23:45.28 | AnduinLothar | no i mean for crafting |
| 23:45.30 | WobWork | 'We've found a subversive element in the "Horde" side called, worryingly enough.. the BURNING BLADE'.... |
| 23:45.36 | Shirik | oh |
| 23:47.07 | kd3 | heh, your thread got moved to suggestions, sbo |
| 23:47.15 | ScytheBlade1 | :/ |
| 23:47.18 | oreth| | Lineage 2 Implemened "Sex Change" and "Feature Change" potions before I quit |
| 23:47.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Not surprised, but |
| 23:47.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Now I won't get a reply either |
| 23:48.03 | ScytheBlade1 | I actually threw a readme into the PC patch list |
| 23:48.05 | ScytheBlade1 | http://files.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/Patches/PTR/PC/ |
| 23:48.25 | ScytheBlade1 | The OSX one is... lacking :) |
| 23:49.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Was worth a shot though |
| 23:51.50 | Shirik | what's the point of having a digital signature on those things? |
| 23:52.00 | Shirik | There's nothing to verify it against as far as I'm aware... |
| 23:52.04 | Shirik | it doesn't come from a trusted authority |
| 23:52.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Uh |
| 23:52.19 | kd3 | welp, progress. getting an empty realm list now |
| 23:52.19 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 23:52.42 | Shirik | or does it? |
| 23:52.47 | Shirik | I haven't looked I just based it off that picture |
| 23:52.58 | Shirik | oh verisign |
| 23:52.59 | Shirik | nm ^^ |
| 23:53.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: well, first, the cert they have traces back to the Thawte root CA, which is shipped with Windows by default |
| 23:53.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Verisign too |
| 23:53.17 | ScytheBlade1 | They got it through Thawte, countersigned with Verisign |
| 23:53.25 | Shirik | ok now I trust it :D |
| 23:53.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Second, even if they didn't do that |
| 23:53.37 | kd3 | huh. is the actual client signed too? |
| 23:53.39 | ScytheBlade1 | (But rather used an untrusted vert) |
| 23:53.40 | ScytheBlade1 | It is |
| 23:53.48 | Shirik | kd3: Vista somewhat requires it |
| 23:53.53 | Shirik | not really, but it helps a lot |
| 23:53.59 | ScytheBlade1 | even if they used an trusted cert, they could always publish the fingerprint/public key |
| 23:54.05 | ScytheBlade1 | And allow for manual verification |
| 23:54.19 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: But my point was they didn't publish that in any reasonable location :) |
| 23:54.41 | Shirik | You can't send it along with the file, I would just be like "ok create new private key, create new exe, attach the public key to it, win" |
| 23:54.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah. Which is why my thread also asked to verify the signatures. ;) |
| 23:54.48 | Shirik | anyway, gotta run |
| 23:54.51 | Shirik | have fun |
| 23:55.28 | Shirik|AFK | P.S. ScytheBlade1 when you don't specifiy -sha1 it chooses md5 |
| 23:55.29 | Shirik|AFK | found that out |
| 23:55.31 | Shirik|AFK | bai |
| 23:55.59 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 23:56.05 | ScytheBlade1 | I figured it would just pick another algorithm |
| 23:58.40 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 23:58.41 | kd3 | oh wow. another mana burn nerf |
| 23:58.42 | ScytheBlade1 | I got a reply |
| 23:58.45 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4913901913&sid=1#1 |
