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00:09.41 | Guillotine | *cry* every semester I wish that my CS teacher will be a good one. And every semester I am disappointed. This one doesn't know regexps :( |
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00:13.33 | Saint-N | awww my thinkpad560e doesn't have a nic |
00:13.45 | Saint-N | that makes me sad |
00:19.30 | Shirik|Ecole | ScytheBlade1: ping |
00:19.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik|Ecole: pong, semi-busy atm |
00:20.12 | Saint-N | hah this thing had win95 on it |
00:20.30 | Saint-N | "cannot load device file that is specified in SYSTEM.INI" |
00:20.37 | Shirik|Ecole | ScytheBlade1: nm |
00:20.42 | Shirik|Ecole | I couldn't get my linode to run lol |
00:20.42 | Saint-N | "the performance of windows should not be affected without this file." |
00:20.43 | Shirik|Ecole | but I fixed it |
00:21.12 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
00:21.38 | Saint-N | guess I'll install puppy linux on it and track down a pccard nic or something |
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00:22.33 | Saint-N | then either make it a remote terminal or an electronic picture frame |
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00:27.58 | Fin | http://www.odditycentral.com/pics/bat-soup-delicious.html |
00:28.26 | Fin | (christ on a bike.) |
00:28.28 | Fin | http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2260/2276473379_2eb8ef3368.jpg?v=0 |
00:28.39 | Fin | (lolgays) |
00:28.46 | Fin | http://cgi.ebay.com/The-Worlds-Greatest-Music-Collection_W0QQitemZ140206309501QQihZ004QQcategoryZ306QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
00:28.49 | Fin | )tje |
00:28.50 | Fin | -that! |
00:29.05 | Fin | (read the Q&A!) |
00:29.32 | Fin | </entertainment> |
00:32.52 | Fin | haha |
00:32.52 | Fin | Winning bid:US $3,002,150.00 |
00:32.53 | Fin | $10 back with a new eBay MasterCard Apply |
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00:39.02 | Cairenn | evening Seerah |
00:39.06 | Cairenn | and AY |
00:39.11 | AlexanderYoshi | Good evening, indeed. |
00:39.18 | Seerah | hola |
00:39.46 | ScytheBlade1 | UnitGUID() = <3 |
00:40.41 | wereHamster | is that a new funciton? |
00:40.45 | ScytheBlade1 | It sure is |
00:40.51 | AlexanderYoshi | Yes it is |
00:41.00 | Guillotine | Anybody ever used the BCC compiler? |
00:41.17 | sag_ich_nicht | GAH |
00:41.37 | sag_ich_nicht | I _hate_ it if people leave me in TCP_CLOSE_WAIT_2 when i'm talking to them -.- |
00:44.34 | sag_ich_nicht | actually it's FIN_WAIT_2 but meh |
00:44.41 | Lopeppeppy | I would hate it too if I spoke that language.... |
00:45.16 | sag_ich_nicht | Lopeppeppy look no |
00:46.15 | Lopeppeppy | I promise, I won't peek |
00:47.41 | sag_ich_nicht | it's when you have a conversation with someone in text form, you ask them something, and they don't don't even have the decency to say "w8" or anything if they can't answer right now, indicating that they have in fact read your message and aren't being an ass by answering your question by not answering |
00:47.59 | sag_ich_nicht | BUT, typing that out is way fucking longer than just doing a comparishon with standard tcp/ip :P |
00:48.22 | Lopeppeppy | "I hate it when people go AFK and don't answer questions". Still short! |
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00:49.29 | Guillotine | "Fuck people" <-- even shorter |
00:49.44 | Keias | I do that all the time. |
00:49.54 | Keias | It's my way of forcing people onto the phone or vent |
00:49.57 | sag_ich_nicht | Lopeppeppy: point is the person wasn't afk |
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00:50.18 | sag_ich_nicht | because if the tank goes afk during CoT2 heroic, you kind of have a problem. |
00:50.34 | sag_ich_nicht | Keias: i hate you and i hope you get hurt really badly. |
00:50.39 | Guillotine | dammit, BCC doesn't like me :( |
00:50.45 | Guillotine | it won't use #include correctly |
00:51.09 | Keias | :D |
00:51.25 | Keias | Typing is for old outdated people |
00:51.27 | Keias | Like the amish |
00:51.51 | Cide | Guillotine: or maybe you don't use #include correctly! |
00:53.52 | Guillotine | Cide: #include isn't all THAT complicated :P |
00:54.08 | Cide | Guillotine: says you, BCC thinks otherwise! |
00:54.09 | Guillotine | it just can't find any simple files like stdio.h unless I put it in the directory of the file I'm compiling |
00:54.15 | Guillotine | good point |
00:54.20 | Cide | are you using #include "foo"? |
00:54.23 | Cide | or <foo> |
00:54.27 | Guillotine | <foo> |
00:54.30 | Cide | good :P |
00:54.38 | Cide | maybe a setting then? |
00:54.42 | Guillotine | could be |
00:54.45 | Cide | I'm shitty at that stuff |
00:55.10 | Guillotine | apparently I am too |
00:55.45 | ScytheBlade1 | art3mis: okay, openbsd is slowly driving me insane |
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00:57.57 | Guillotine | aha, got it |
00:58.07 | Guillotine | it needs you to create a damn .cfg file by hand |
00:58.23 | Guillotine | now I have to figure out how to get Scite to use bcc instead of gcc |
00:58.37 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
00:58.37 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
00:58.40 | Wobin | Oh wow |
00:58.46 | Wobin | That looks AUTHENTIC! |
00:58.55 | Cide | definitely |
00:58.57 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh, I'd fall for that! ... not |
00:59.09 | Tuller | Suspected Web Forgery! |
00:59.21 | Guillotine | for me too :) |
00:59.22 | Kaso | Yay firefox!" |
00:59.23 | Guillotine | Go firefox! |
00:59.29 | Cide | same |
00:59.48 | Kaso | "GET ME OUT OF HERE!" |
01:02.13 | Guillotine | awesome :D now have Scite using bcc |
01:04.15 | wereHamster | since when is 0332.023217707 a valid domain? |
01:04.51 | Kaso | since it isnt? |
01:05.02 | Kaso | can't find 0332.023217707: Non-existent domain |
01:05.36 | Cide | how come it's resolved? |
01:07.09 | Fin | it's decimal |
01:07.15 | |pez| | how many if you fail on loading - http://cp.slacktitude.net/ ? |
01:07.26 | Cide | not me |
01:07.34 | |pez| | Cide: it works? |
01:07.35 | Cide | as in, I don't fail loading it |
01:07.46 | Cide | yes |
01:07.51 | wereHamster | I fail |
01:08.02 | |pez| | feh, dns being wonky somewhere then I guess.. |
01:08.25 | Cide | add 64.71.152.241 to your hosts file :P |
01:09.16 | |pez| | like the setting for the subdomain in apache? |
01:09.25 | Cide | nah |
01:09.29 | Cide | c:/windows/system32/etc/ |
01:09.34 | Cide | filename hosts |
01:09.45 | Cide | you want to add the line |
01:09.45 | Fin | c:/windows/system32/drivers/etc |
01:09.46 | |pez| | well that doesn't really help the rest of the people looking at my site XD |
01:09.53 | Cide | ya, what Fin said |
01:10.19 | Cide | |pez|: true :P |
01:11.14 | |pez| | Typical that these things happen when I actually plan on opening a site to the public really. |
01:11.30 | Fin | this is because |
01:11.53 | Fin | the A record for cp.slacktitude.net is only in 2 out of the three DNS servers that are registered as authoritative for the domain slacktitude.net |
01:11.56 | Fin | [mimi:pgl]:~ $ host cp.slacktitude.net ns1.everydns.net |
01:11.59 | Fin | Using domain server: |
01:12.01 | Fin | Host cp.slacktitude.net not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) |
01:12.03 | Fin | Name: ns1.everydns.net |
01:12.08 | Fin | [mimi:pgl]:~ $ host cp.slacktitude.net ns2.everydns.net |
01:12.15 | Fin | cp.slacktitude.net has address 64.71.152.241 |
01:12.15 | |pez| | Oh |
01:12.17 | Fin | etc. |
01:12.34 | |pez| | right, I might have forgotten to add that third one at some poin. |
01:12.47 | Fin | it's the first one actually :) ns2 and ns3 have the dat |
01:12.49 | Fin | +a |
01:12.57 | |pez| | Oh |
01:13.02 | Fin | but, that's a shitty DNS setup if they're not slaves |
01:13.25 | Fin | I shouldn't comment tho |
01:13.47 | |pez| | I think it might be a bit borked, as it worked fine yesterday when I tries it. |
01:14.08 | Fin | complain to everydns.net |
01:14.32 | |pez| | it's a free service, I'd feel bad. XD |
01:15.24 | Fin | this is a problem with their DNS setup, I think they would want to know about it |
01:15.29 | clad|sleep | I own dns in the face |
01:15.42 | Cide | clad|sleep: go to sleep already! |
01:15.42 | Fin | dns on TOAST |
01:15.49 | clad|sleep | uhh |
01:15.54 | clad|sleep | drunk ~= sleep |
01:16.00 | clad|sleep | i just finished eating disgusting drunk food |
01:16.01 | Cide | see your nickname |
01:16.05 | clad|sleep | i need a moment to digest |
01:16.12 | Cide | meh, fine |
01:17.16 | |pez| | Fin: I think they're aware of the problem. :) |
01:17.39 | Fin | |pez|: why do you say that? |
01:18.08 | |pez| | because the errors I got has changed, AND it now works when I tunnel trough my linode, which didn't work earlier. |
01:18.22 | Shirik|Ecole | linode = win |
01:18.28 | Fin | |pez|: |
01:18.30 | |pez| | Shirik|Ecole: yus! |
01:18.41 | Fin | +that's because your local dns resolver probably started using a different DNS server |
01:19.19 | Fin | 1 out of 3 of the DNS servers you have set as authoritative for slacktitude.net are saying your domain doesn't exist |
01:20.06 | |pez| | if ns1 is gone, I'd like to believe other people have alerted them of the problem anyway. |
01:20.15 | Fin | this means that 1/3rd of new DNS requests to your registered nameservers will fail |
01:20.23 | Fin | this might e a local fuckup specific to your domain |
01:20.44 | Fin | it's your site |
01:21.16 | |pez| | indeed it is, and I should be sleeping instead of doing this XD But I do appreciate your efforts to convince me. |
01:21.24 | |pez| | if it's still bad tomorrow, I'll contact them then. |
01:21.37 | Fin | that sounds reasonable |
01:21.46 | Fin | good luck! |
01:22.02 | |pez| | I'm really not one of those "uh, it does nto work, fixitnow!" people. I live with a techsupport man, and know that things happen that aren't easily resolved. ;P |
01:22.14 | Fin | well |
01:22.22 | Fin | I wasn't suggesting you write an email like that |
01:22.27 | Fin | not at all |
01:22.40 | |pez| | But it might sound like it, if I didn't wait and see what happened for a bit. |
01:23.05 | Fin | but, tech support people do - in my experience - appreciate being politely informed of a potential problem |
01:23.27 | Fin | waiting until tomorrow sounds like a good idea, if it's not urgent to have the site up |
01:23.56 | |pez| | It isn't. but I can pop by their irc channel and see if there's any status messages anywhere. |
01:24.06 | Fin | you know what the issue is, you can easily retest it again tomorrow, if it's not changed then they should definitely know about it as DNS records for your domain are broken at the moment |
01:24.21 | Fin | I actually had a quick check of their front page, last news was from the 10th |
01:24.33 | Fin | mebbe there's something else somewhere else, tho |
01:25.25 | Fin | http://fin.pastey.net/82842 btw, in case you wanted something to send them |
01:25.48 | Fin | oops, missed a bit |
01:26.27 | Fin | fixed |
01:27.34 | |pez| | Oh, hey, it works now. |
01:28.03 | Fin | kaching |
01:29.08 | oreth | caching? |
01:29.23 | Fin | chapping |
01:29.34 | oreth | chafing? |
01:29.42 | Fin | slapping! |
01:29.48 | Cide | kapowing |
01:29.54 | oreth | "Things I did to your mother last night" |
01:29.55 | |pez| | fwapping? |
01:30.02 | Lopeppeppy | ..... |
01:30.03 | Cide | Fin: way to not line up the line lengths |
01:30.06 | |pez| | ... bad timing, really. |
01:30.11 | Fin | pff |
01:30.13 | Cide | wow. |
01:30.15 | Cide | nice one. |
01:30.42 | Fin | new favourite guild name: <Ah Me So Hordie> |
01:30.53 | oreth | guys |
01:30.57 | oreth | i'm gonna go check my mail |
01:31.00 | oreth | like... in real life |
01:31.05 | |pez| | holycrap! |
01:31.16 | oreth | I'm going to pul on some pants, and shoes, and go down stairs to the mailbox and see if anyone sent me something important |
01:31.16 | Cide | oreth: oh, that's easy. just right-click the mailbox |
01:31.26 | oreth | Cide: i tried that... |
01:31.46 | oreth | but I can't throw my mouse that far :( |
01:32.33 | oreth | also: Shit. My wife is gonna be pissed that I threw my $100 lazer mouse at the mailbox |
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01:32.45 | oreth | quick.. help me come up with a plausible reason |
01:32.57 | |pez| | oreth: there was.... a bug on the wall! |
01:33.03 | |pez| | which you wanted to squish, for her sake. |
01:33.06 | oreth | but it's out the window |
01:33.07 | Guillotine | why would you throw a 100$ mouse at a mailbox? o.O |
01:33.11 | Guillotine | go get it |
01:33.13 | |pez| | okok, window then. |
01:33.13 | oreth | Guillotine: Cide told me to |
01:33.38 | Guillotine | oreth: why would you EVER listen to Cide? |
01:33.42 | Guillotine | I mean, seriously |
01:33.45 | Cide | Guillotine: I'm always right |
01:33.53 | oreth | yeah |
01:33.57 | oreth | he's not steered me wrong as of yet |
01:34.05 | oreth | he told me to buy a shotgun, I did... |
01:34.06 | |pez| | I think he has now. |
01:34.13 | oreth | and then BAM... next day... Zombies attack |
01:34.37 | oreth | if it weren't for that shotgun, i'd be om nom noming on brains right now |
01:34.51 | oreth | which, in my mind, isn't a completely uninviting prospect |
01:34.55 | Lukian | braaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnsssssss1 |
01:35.07 | oreth | See, a few are still lurking |
01:38.26 | Tuller | grumble grumble test server down still grumble |
01:39.31 | kd3 | I doubt it's coming up til they apply a new build to kill the stat duping exploit |
01:39.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup, same |
01:39.42 | oreth | so, i think i'm done with wow |
01:39.51 | ScytheBlade1 | oreth: good for you! |
01:39.54 | ScytheBlade1 | oreth: see you in a month. |
01:39.54 | oreth | i hate it so much |
01:40.05 | oreth | scythe: when's 2.4 hitting public? |
01:40.13 | Tuller | in the future! |
01:40.15 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Soon |
01:40.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Most guesses are around 2mo minimum |
01:40.19 | oreth | haha |
01:40.21 | Lopeppeppy | Someday (tm) |
01:41.12 | oreth | the one thing that would keep me from coming back would be DELETING my main |
01:41.28 | oreth | but, as of today |
01:41.32 | oreth | he has 60 days played |
01:41.35 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
01:41.39 | Cide | oreth: 60? |
01:41.43 | Cide | mine's more like 260 |
01:41.48 | oreth | yeah.. i know... not a whole assload |
01:41.50 | kd3 | ya, I'm somwehre in the 200s myself |
01:42.02 | oreth | but that means 60 DAYS of my life have been wasted |
01:42.15 | Cide | yeah, but that's only 1/6 of a year :P |
01:42.18 | oreth | ... |
01:42.24 | Cide | unfortunately I'm up to like 3/4 |
01:42.27 | oreth | jesus fuck my eye christ |
01:42.47 | oreth | lol |
01:42.51 | oreth | TMNT 2 is on |
01:42.58 | oreth | right now.. it's the vanilla ice scene |
01:43.09 | oreth | i remember seeing that thing in the theatres |
01:43.15 | oreth | it was so cool... when I was 10 :( |
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01:43.25 | Cide | hey |
01:43.30 | Cide | it's still cool |
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01:43.34 | oreth | no |
01:43.36 | oreth | no it's not |
01:43.39 | oreth | it's so totally not cool |
01:43.45 | Cide | sure it is. you're just not cool enough |
01:43.51 | oreth | haha.. ok |
01:44.58 | Shirik|AFK | Sooooooooo |
01:45.01 | Shirik|AFK | anyone good with SPICE? |
01:45.12 | Cide | peppar works |
01:45.14 | Cide | pepper? |
01:45.23 | Cide | pepper |
01:45.31 | Corrodias | i want.. what do i want? |
01:45.42 | Shirik|AFK | Halp plox: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/543eb934e08f3fe7d5f58fad4f01787b.PNG |
01:45.50 | Shirik|AFK | I hate spice errors |
01:45.53 | Shirik|AFK | they're completely unreadable |
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01:50.28 | Corrodias | sorry, can't read it |
01:54.42 | Shirik|AFK | So I'm trying to save to a network drive and it says "Drive cannot be read. Please check it and try again" |
01:54.51 | Shirik|AFK | So I try again and it says "Please insert a disk into drive F:" |
01:54.55 | Shirik|AFK | that can't be good.... |
02:01.04 | Shirik|Ecole | grr |
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02:17.01 | Fin | the spice melange! |
02:17.14 | Fin | never twice the same |
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02:57.35 | Shirik | So I have determined |
02:57.48 | Shirik | if SPICE is giving you errors, don't try to build your circuit until you figure out why |
02:57.52 | Shirik | my circuit just blew up lol |
02:57.54 | Cairenn | determined have I so |
02:57.56 | Shirik | but the smoke was pretty |
02:58.18 | Shirik | SPICE was apparently correct that there was something wrong with the circuit |
02:58.51 | Lopeppeppy | SPICE is very wise |
03:00.04 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
03:00.13 | Cide | don't question the SPICE |
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03:03.30 | sag_ich_nicht | i've got feared below CoT2 |
03:03.31 | sag_ich_nicht | -.- |
03:03.34 | sag_ich_nicht | heroic -.- |
03:03.39 | sag_ich_nicht | GM better give me a badge |
03:03.40 | kd3 | ouch |
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03:05.00 | Cide | CoT2? |
03:05.09 | sag_ich_nicht | Caverns of Time 2 |
03:05.14 | Cide | yeah, no shit |
03:05.17 | Cide | what's '2'? |
03:05.23 | sag_ich_nicht | Black Morass |
03:05.33 | Cide | why do people use indices? that's totally ambiguous |
03:05.45 | Cide | according to my definition, Black Morass is 1 |
03:05.48 | sag_ich_nicht | no. |
03:05.54 | sag_ich_nicht | because to access CoT2 |
03:05.54 | Cide | yes it is! |
03:05.58 | sag_ich_nicht | you need to do CoT1 |
03:06.00 | sag_ich_nicht | for the Q |
03:06.04 | sag_ich_nicht | so in terms of progression |
03:06.07 | Cide | according to your definition. |
03:06.09 | sag_ich_nicht | CoT2 follows CoT1 |
03:06.11 | Cide | I speak in terms of loot I want |
03:06.12 | sag_ich_nicht | look go away. |
03:06.18 | kd3 | lol |
03:06.19 | Cide | and Cot2 does not have my trinket |
03:08.45 | Shirik | hm |
03:08.50 | Shirik | transistor #2 exploded |
03:08.59 | Shirik | this is going to take a while i think |
03:09.33 | kd3 | gack |
03:12.31 | Lopeppeppy | Not going well at all. *hug* |
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03:32.16 | Xinhuan | monitor #2 exploded |
03:32.27 | Xinhuan | luckily monitor #3 is in the storeroom |
03:32.40 | kd3 | exploded!? |
03:32.50 | kd3 | wth is wrong with your power grid? |
03:33.00 | Xinhuan | nothing apparantly |
03:33.07 | Xinhuan | since monitor #1 is working fine |
03:33.35 | Buuyo | Smoking or actual explosion? xD |
03:33.43 | Buuyo | cuz damn if the latter |
03:33.47 | Xinhuan | ok, maybe exploded is a bad word |
03:33.56 | Xinhuan | the lcd screen just gave a "pop" sound and blacked out |
03:34.01 | Buuyo | ouch |
03:34.16 | Cide | that feeling |
03:34.19 | Cide | it hurts |
03:34.30 | Buuyo | I had a power supply that would spontaneously set my peripherals on fire. |
03:34.30 | Xinhuan | do you think its repairable? heh |
03:34.36 | Buuyo | I didn't realize it until the third one went on me. |
03:34.47 | AlexanderYoshi | Sheesh, xin, stop throwing your monitors into the lake |
03:34.58 | Xinhuan | so alex |
03:34.58 | Cide | Xinhuan: my experience says that repairing monitors is more expensive than buying new ones |
03:35.07 | Xinhuan | that's why i have a 3rd one! |
03:35.33 | Cide | Xinhuan: but I find that the manufacturers have pretty good warranties |
03:35.39 | Cide | so you should look into that :P |
03:35.53 | Xinhuan | possibly |
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03:40.44 | batrick | Shirik: singular matrices should give you a large hint :) |
03:41.02 | Shirik | Hey |
03:41.04 | Shirik | it works now |
03:41.08 | Shirik | don't want your crap |
03:41.11 | Shirik | :P |
03:41.18 | batrick | heh |
03:41.19 | batrick | man |
03:41.24 | Shirik | though I'll admit I did wear safety goggles that time I turned it on |
03:41.27 | batrick | I apparently wrote some serialization stuff for batbot |
03:41.30 | Shirik | I don't trust it anymore >< |
03:41.31 | batrick | while i was drunk |
03:41.41 | batrick | it works too |
03:42.03 | Xinhuan | why do you do what you do batrick ~_~ |
03:42.12 | batrick | huh? |
03:42.22 | Xinhuan | like, make batbot the most unbreakable bot in the world! |
03:42.32 | batrick | batbot is very readable >.> |
03:42.43 | batrick | at least imo |
03:42.49 | batrick | :P |
03:43.46 | batrick | lmfao |
03:43.57 | batrick | i read that as unreadable |
03:45.40 | Xinhuan | o_O |
03:45.59 | batrick | i dunno why i enjoy working on it |
03:46.01 | Xinhuan | i was like "does your reply make sense to me?" |
03:46.02 | Xinhuan | hehe |
03:46.07 | batrick | I wouldn't do it if I didn't learn anything from it |
03:46.26 | batrick | working on my sandbox helped me find bugs in lua :) |
03:46.49 | Xinhuan | is there going to be any new version of lua release soon? |
03:46.55 | batrick | they just put one out |
03:47.00 | Shirik | batrick, but it's so awesome |
03:47.03 | Shirik | the transistor exploded |
03:47.04 | Xinhuan | version number? |
03:47.09 | batrick | 5.1.3 |
03:47.11 | Shirik | and the shell is like split in a perfect two |
03:47.16 | batrick | haha |
03:47.27 | batrick | I blew a transistor once |
03:47.36 | Xinhuan | shirik the best i had was the plastic of the transistor melting |
03:47.45 | Shirik | well I was using another transistor before |
03:47.46 | batrick | with my lab partner, we just put it back in the box :P |
03:47.47 | Shirik | and it was smoking |
03:47.50 | Xinhuan | and it "fused" with a nearby transistor and shorted the whole thing lolz |
03:47.54 | Shirik | so I took it out, decided it was the wrong transistor to use |
03:47.57 | Shirik | and then replaced it |
03:47.59 | Shirik | the new one exploded |
03:48.01 | Shirik | it was beautiful |
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03:53.26 | Shirik | Batrick, this circuit is hurting my head :( |
03:53.33 | batrick | they do that |
03:53.48 | batrick | stop shorting wires! |
03:54.01 | Shirik | So far it has 2 relays (each with two NC, two NO contacts, all used), two NPN transistors, two diodes |
03:54.08 | Shirik | and all it is is a power switch.... |
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04:08.16 | |pez| | http://cp.slacktitude.net/ for all your Creatures needs! |
04:10.27 | Cide | eatyousocks@gmail.com |
04:10.29 | Cide | nice. |
04:10.36 | |pez| | oh, crap |
04:10.48 | |pez| | supposed to be your* |
04:11.26 | |pez| | therewe go! |
04:11.26 | |pez| | but thanks XD |
04:11.30 | |pez| | that is my e-mail. |
04:11.35 | |pez| | I like it. |
04:11.37 | Cide | you should try to get a more official sounding email addr if ever possible |
04:11.45 | Cide | if you want to try to sell stuff, anyway |
04:12.01 | Cide | but if you're just passing it to amazon, it probably doesn't matter |
04:12.12 | |pez| | I'm passing it to amazon. |
04:12.22 | Cide | I noticed :) |
04:12.43 | |pez| | But yes, ofcourse, If I actually wanted to make money of this thing, I'd use a better layout / e-mail / everything. |
04:13.21 | |pez| | This is more of a service for people who play the series who know people who want to buy it and such. |
04:13.41 | |pez| | wading through amazons sites is a hassle sometimes. |
04:14.04 | |pez| | Will probably try to setup a service for shipping places where amazon does not ship though |
04:14.26 | |pez| | so people who are in a area where the product can be shipped, can recieve it, and forward it. |
04:29.53 | Wobin | |pez|: no sales to Oceania? |
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04:31.35 | |pez| | Wobin: there's no one in that area with the rights to sell the products. |
04:32.21 | |pez| | as far as I know. |
04:34.31 | |pez| | thus a forwarding service might be in the plans for future development. |
04:36.22 | |pez| | also, I don't think Oceania has any Amazon I can understand ;P |
04:36.54 | |pez| | so for now, that's really all I can do, until I find people willing to help me with the forwarding service. |
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05:01.45 | LT | Is this Account_List.Character_Sheet[UnitName("player")].Name to address a table setup like Account_List = { |
05:01.45 | LT | { ["dude"] = { |
05:01.45 | LT | ["Name"] ="myname", |
05:01.45 | LT | <PROTECTED> |
05:01.46 | LT | <PROTECTED> |
05:02.04 | LT | "the right way" |
05:02.30 | Cide | I don't care |
05:02.32 | LT | I have a table setup as Account_List={}; |
05:02.34 | Cide | because you pasted it "the wrong way" |
05:02.38 | Cide | read the topic |
05:03.16 | LT | Forget the code, I have a table nested in a table, how can i properly address it using the single line i posted first |
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05:03.26 | Cide | LT: www.lua.org/pil |
05:03.40 | LT | thnx |
05:03.46 | Cide | anytime. |
05:08.34 | Tem|AFK | ~pil |
05:08.35 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
05:11.09 | Corrodias | at this very moment, i am having fun playing paper mario. yay. |
05:11.16 | dylanm_ | So much text. |
05:11.25 | dylanm_ | In Paper Mario, I mean. |
05:11.32 | dylanm_ | Once you fight that off it's awesome. |
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05:21.48 | Kaso | http://www.wowwiki.com/Secure_Frames_Overview has some more infomation abyx |
05:22.02 | abyx | is it possible to modify DoTimer to make it target and cast a spell when you click the timer bar? |
05:23.15 | Kaso | umm, not easily, you see you cant assign units to target on secure action buttons whilst in combat |
05:25.33 | abyx | ack! |
05:25.48 | dylanm_ | You can't really modify their position or anything without a state change, and that'd be something of a problem. |
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05:29.02 | abyx | well as a druid i was thinking about something like clicking the timer bar and having it refresh lifebloom stacks or other hots |
05:29.07 | abyx | but it seems that isn't quite possible |
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05:29.21 | abyx | at least not with my limited knowledge of wow addons and such |
05:30.59 | dylanm_ | If you were comfortable with fixed timers for each party member I think it could work. |
05:31.35 | Kaso | "the closest you could do is like a timer bar pre-assigned to monitor lifebloom on a single target that'd cast on click" |
05:31.38 | abyx | it'd be kinda like decursive i suppose |
05:31.38 | oreth| | WoW Addons = old and busted |
05:31.41 | oreth| | XNA = new hotness |
05:32.04 | abyx | i guess if i used Clique + grid i could get the same effect |
05:32.06 | Kaso | xna as in microsofts .net games thingy? |
05:32.16 | dylanm_ | I assume so. |
05:32.21 | oreth| | yes |
05:32.22 | Gngsk | abyx, you're better off just using grid |
05:33.05 | Kaso | Microsoft were at my uni pimping xna the other day |
05:33.34 | Kaso | It looks pretty good, but the whole creator's club required to push to 360 thing is stupid |
05:34.56 | Kaso | but channel 8 has creators club memership free for 1 year so not so bad |
05:35.32 | abyx | also while i'm here... I use a hotkey on my mouse to cast lifebloom, and when i click a raid member's xperl unit frame i have to move the mouse off of all the xperl frames for the hotkey to actually work. is there anyway to fix that? |
05:36.47 | dylanm_ | What happens if you're over the XPerl frames? Nothing? |
05:38.10 | abyx | yeah, if i hit the hotkey for liefbloom while mousing over an xperl frame nothing happens |
05:39.31 | abyx | o |
05:39.54 | abyx | i'm pretty sure that if i use a keyboard key instead of a mouse key it will work fine though |
05:40.40 | Tem|AFK | that's because you're "clicking" on the unitframe |
05:40.44 | Tem|AFK | instead of using the hotkey |
05:41.10 | abyx | right |
05:42.45 | Tem|AFK | so you have to make your unitframes not accept clicks from that button |
05:42.57 | Tem|AFK | ... actually, that won't work either |
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06:16.48 | Cairenn | here, you need a laugh kd3 |
06:17.10 | Cairenn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4822935759&sid=1 |
06:17.45 | kd3 | lmao |
06:30.54 | batrick | I thought you got new a new isp kd3? |
06:31.00 | batrick | new one sucks too? |
06:31.04 | kd3 | lan party. screwing with connection |
06:31.17 | Atriace | ignore the following: |
06:31.18 | Atriace | LUA |
06:31.25 | Atriace | Poo! |
06:31.27 | batrick | ...? |
06:31.28 | Atriace | Nevermind |
06:32.41 | batrick | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4822425693&sid=1 |
06:32.47 | batrick | destromath rules |
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06:48.20 | toncho | hi |
06:49.19 | Syzgyn | hola |
06:49.51 | toncho | So what kinda talk goes on here? just chillin'? |
06:51.34 | Cairenn | eclectic |
06:53.08 | toncho | Is everyone playing WoW right now or what? |
06:53.14 | |Jelly| | Kind of. |
06:53.26 | toncho | I wish =( |
06:53.29 | |Jelly| | I'm on WoW, if that's what you consider 'playing' :P |
06:53.32 | toncho | My computter died. |
06:53.50 | toncho | And I haev to live with laptop for a few more days till I get a new PC |
06:53.51 | |Jelly| | http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/chi/461379703.html |
06:54.24 | toncho | What do you guys play? |
06:54.38 | |Jelly| | !c us burning legion jelly |
06:54.41 | WoWLuaircBot | |Jelly|: Jelly, Level 70 Blood Elf Priest (18/43/0). 7641 HP; 9900 Mana; 376 mana regen; 172 mp5; 671 +spell dmg; 1698 +heal; 5.06% dodge; 18 resilience;[[ TBR: 482 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yrmc88 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mw2d7 ][ Updated: Sun Feb 24 02:04:07 2008 EST ]] |
06:54.47 | toncho | oh lol |
06:55.00 | toncho | !c us uldaman tonchpo |
06:55.01 | WoWLuaircBot | toncho: tonchpo is not the character you are looking for! |
06:55.04 | Cairenn | the channel is mostly about wow, yes, but folks in here play lots of different gmaes |
06:55.06 | toncho | damn it typo |
06:55.16 | toncho | !c us uldaman toncho |
06:55.17 | Cairenn | and we talk about damn near everything under the sun |
06:55.19 | WoWLuaircBot | toncho: Toncho, Level 70 Night Elf Hunter (0/42/19). 10250 HP; 7048 Mana; 106 mana regen; 27 mp5; 6158 Armour; 1503 AP; 221.400 Melee DPS; 18.62% melee crit; 68 melee hit; 1727 RAP; 286.40 Ranged DPS; 23.62% ranged crit; 68 ranged hit; 19.31% dodge; 148 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1917 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yv9tbm ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/37oej4 ][ Updated: Sun Feb 24 02:04:44 2008 EST ]] |
06:55.19 | toncho | HUZZAH |
06:56.29 | |pez| | I hate zits, they are evil. *tries to reach one that has popped up quite uncomfertably on her back* |
06:56.54 | toncho | What set do you have as priest? T4? |
06:57.17 | Cairenn | |pez|: that time? I used to break out all over then |
06:57.46 | |pez| | Cairenn: I seem to vaguely remembering it not being that time quite yet. |
06:57.57 | |pez| | might be other hormonal funkyness. |
06:58.09 | Cairenn | one of the [many] things that I'm more than happy to do without after my hysto |
06:58.24 | |pez| | hysto? |
06:58.42 | Cairenn | yup, too many cancer scares |
06:58.57 | Cairenn | don't ask |
06:59.06 | |pez| | Oh, canc.. ok, I won't. |
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06:59.52 | toncho | Do any of you have a Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4gHz CPU? |
07:00.24 | kd3 | yeah, actually. that exact model |
07:00.26 | |pez| | I'd love to get rid of my period though, really. I'm considering some sort of hormone treatment. |
07:00.49 | toncho | Is it good? |
07:00.54 | toncho | I'm plannin' to get one |
07:01.11 | kd3 | I'm rather enjoying it. it's worth it, since it's not much more expensive than core 2 duos. |
07:01.20 | kd3 | I upgraded from a p4 2.4GHz northwood |
07:01.40 | toncho | That's the processor that just died on me |
07:01.48 | toncho | After 5+ years of use. |
07:01.54 | kd3 | wow is screaming fast now. need a better graphics card, though. may get a 9600 |
07:01.57 | toncho | Ahaha. How much better is C2Q? |
07:02.33 | toncho | I had a Pentium 4 2.4 768mb of ram. x1300 ati radeon |
07:02.36 | kd3 | 40+ fps in shat isn't that unreasonable. 'course, having an 8600GT helps a lot, since I was running a 5200fx |
07:02.50 | toncho | Im getting Core 2 Quad 2.4 ghz. 2gb ram. 8500gt |
07:03.03 | kd3 | you may want to look into the 9600 since it's out |
07:03.04 | toncho | How much of an improvement am i gonna see? |
07:03.20 | toncho | My X1300 broke, and they gave me a 8500 GT for free =( |
07:03.30 | toncho | And I don't like the 8500GT. |
07:03.34 | toncho | I want an 8800GT. |
07:03.46 | |pez| | I'm getting a CPU... from my boyfriends old computer! |
07:03.47 | toncho | But oh well, im hoping the fast ram and cpu will make up for it. |
07:03.54 | kd3 | ah, heh. I don't know all that much about ati cards, but 8500's reasonalby high end, nowhere near as good as an 8800, but still better |
07:04.14 | toncho | Yeah |
07:04.15 | kd3 | s/high end/modern/ |
07:04.57 | toncho | In the summer, i'm probably just gonna go dish out some cash and get an 8800gt. |
07:05.07 | toncho | And wtf is a 9600? GeForce 9 series is out?.. |
07:05.20 | kd3 | yes |
07:05.34 | toncho | Better than 8800 Ultra? |
07:05.39 | kd3 | I'm seriously considering getting one, even though I just bought an 8600 in november |
07:05.51 | |pez| | Only thing I need to assemble my new used desktop, is a graphicscard. |
07:06.00 | Shirik | Batrick: ping |
07:06.35 | |pez| | <batric> pong |
07:06.37 | kd3 | http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/02/21/nvidia_geforce_9600_gt/ |
07:06.38 | |pez| | ah, crao |
07:06.47 | |pez| | I can spell, I promise. |
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07:07.32 | toncho | The 8800GT is better than the 9600 GT |
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07:08.34 | kd3 | ya, but run two in SLI and it still comes out cheaper than the 8800 |
07:08.53 | kd3 | unless they've played with pricing again |
07:09.49 | toncho | QQ. |
07:09.57 | toncho | I just wish I could afford a 8800GTX or something |
07:10.04 | toncho | that'll last me a year or osmething |
07:10.36 | |Jelly| | I'm playing on a hacked x850pro |
07:10.45 | |Jelly| | AGP IN THE HOUSE! |
07:11.16 | mikma | gz |
07:11.20 | toncho | Lol |
07:12.43 | toncho | I just bought Orange Box a few weeks ago |
07:12.52 | toncho | But now I wanna pick up CoD4. |
07:12.53 | toncho | >_< |
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07:23.32 | abyx | I doubt this is possible.... but is it possible to make an addon that creates/modifies a macro? |
07:23.37 | fromatz | is there anyway i can customize how the wow api formats the save variables file |
07:23.43 | fromatz | so its easier to parse how i want |
07:23.45 | kd3 | no |
07:24.05 | |Jelly| | So long as it's out of combat, couldn't an addon do that? |
07:24.05 | fromatz | no to me or abyx? |
07:24.42 | kd3 | no to you, fromatz. that's controlled by the client. not something we can modify |
07:25.49 | Syzgyn | though, pretty much everything thats saved in the savedvariables.lua file is obtainable through the API |
07:26.13 | kd3 | you can modify what's in it, just not the format of it |
07:26.38 | fromatz | ahh, cause i dont like the indentation look of the savevariables file |
07:26.49 | fromatz | it would be nicers if i could just call my functions and save the data each on a new line |
07:26.57 | Syzgyn | you could write an addon that had all the same information in the format you choose too |
07:27.33 | kd3 | but even then, it gets saved in blizz's sv format, so dunno how much of gain that'd be |
07:27.48 | Syzgyn | true |
07:28.01 | Syzgyn | but at least then its broken up by indentations and lines |
07:28.32 | Syzgyn | fromaz: what sort of addon/script are you trying to make? |
07:35.51 | |pez| | I need to read about search optimization.. |
07:37.42 | Syzgyn | fun stuff there pez -_- |
07:38.04 | |pez| | nuh |
07:38.08 | |pez| | but it needs to be done. |
07:38.26 | |pez| | I'd like my aStore to be found when people google Creatures. |
07:38.50 | Syzgyn | aStore? |
07:38.57 | |pez| | amazon thing. |
07:39.08 | Syzgyn | ohh |
07:39.12 | |pez| | pretty much having a store, wthout managing it yourself. |
07:39.20 | Syzgyn | that kind of search optimization, gotcha |
07:39.31 | |pez| | pick products from amazon, and put it in your aStore |
07:39.33 | Syzgyn | I thought you meant code wise, not search engine wise |
07:39.35 | |pez| | yeah. hehe. |
07:39.50 | |pez| | I should learn code wise too, but I haven't gotten that far with my CMS project yet ;P |
07:41.38 | Syzgyn | learning the different search algorithms isn't bad |
07:41.42 | Syzgyn | Binary, ect |
07:41.52 | Syzgyn | learning real hardcore optimization is a bitch |
07:42.23 | |pez| | that's probably true. |
07:42.28 | |pez| | Not looked into it much really. |
07:42.31 | Syzgyn | but unless you're dealing with tens of thousands of things to query, it's generally unneeded |
07:43.04 | Syzgyn | shaving off 0.002 seconds from a query only matters if its happening 10000 times |
07:43.26 | |pez| | yeaah... |
07:44.35 | Syzgyn | I cant even think of an addon application that would need that |
07:47.22 | |Jelly| | http://dallas.craigslist.org/pet/572366581.html What the fuck is a "rehoming fee" ?? |
07:47.42 | |Jelly| | I can see paying FOR THE DOG ... but paying for you to ... what? me to come get it? |
07:47.59 | Syzgyn | I would guess its like an application fee when you look at apartments |
07:48.09 | |Jelly| | That's retarded. |
07:48.11 | Syzgyn | you pay for their time to make sure you're ok to buy the dog |
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07:48.54 | mikma | http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/3192/4chanfullofnormalpeopleom6.png |
07:49.10 | Syzgyn | rofl |
07:49.20 | |Jelly| | roflamo |
07:49.23 | Syzgyn | husky = win |
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07:58.49 | Syzgyn | so now that we get a new GUID function, is there still going to be some sort of GUID managment lib? |
07:59.23 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm sure there will be, since for some reason the community has decided that there is a need for a library for everything |
07:59.37 | Syzgyn | heh |
07:59.51 | Shirik|Ecole | Screw coding; making addons is all about putting libraries together, not implementing anything |
08:00.10 | Syzgyn | I always enjoyed the irony of having to install translation libs for my english client/code |
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08:07.32 | Lukian | Syzgyn, What's ironic about addons made by non-English authors display their text in English? :) |
08:07.50 | Lukian | using libs to display* |
08:07.59 | Syzgyn | no, non-english authors I am fine with using Babel and such |
08:08.08 | Syzgyn | but thats a small minority |
08:08.35 | mikma | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7593-08.02.24.html#changelog |
08:08.46 | mikma | now is that funny or what? |
08:09.12 | Syzgyn | what about it? |
08:09.36 | mikma | it's funny |
08:09.52 | Syzgyn | I'm missing something I think |
08:10.14 | mikma | the first change in latest |
08:11.03 | batrick | Shirik|Ecole: pong |
08:11.09 | Syzgyn | the toc change? |
08:11.16 | Shirik|Ecole | batrick: nm I figured it out but thansk |
08:11.18 | mikma | ye, that. funny! |
08:11.31 | batrick | k |
08:11.44 | Syzgyn | ok... |
08:13.13 | Tem|AFK | Syzgyn, actually, the new function makes us NOT need a library |
08:13.41 | mikma | Tem|AFK: if it's worth doing, then you'll get a lib |
08:13.59 | Syzgyn | Tem: Thats what I thought too |
08:14.03 | Syzgyn | I was just checking |
08:14.20 | Tem|AFK | mikma, no |
08:14.35 | mikma | Tem|AFK: hi |
08:14.38 | Syzgyn | cuz with that you can get level, class, race, ect. with 100% accuracy |
08:15.57 | mikma | is there some sort of limitation for that? (range? area? friendlist?) |
08:18.03 | Syzgyn | gotta have a unitID for it |
08:18.08 | Syzgyn | target, focus, mouseover, ect |
08:18.42 | Syzgyn | but as long as you have that, you can match a combat log event with a unit |
08:18.54 | Syzgyn | and get all that unit-y stuff |
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08:25.56 | Guillotine | holy crap, a tree just fell on the window right above me. Thank god it didn't crash through o.O |
08:27.37 | Lukian | you have a window above you? |
08:27.55 | kd3 | whee skylights? |
08:27.56 | Syzgyn | skylight? |
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08:28.36 | Syzgyn | WTB [Full Time Job] PST |
08:29.30 | Guillotine | well, above me and next to me |
08:29.42 | Guillotine | starts just above my head, extends to the top of the ceiling |
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08:40.09 | Shirik|zZz | Syzgyn: I have a full time job at school lol |
08:40.14 | Shirik | just got home :< |
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08:42.07 | Syzgyn | WTB |
08:42.21 | Syzgyn | hell, it doesn't even have to be full time right now |
08:42.23 | Shirik | " So i downloaded Muzzel UI installed it exactly how the guide says....." |
08:42.23 | Syzgyn | ANY job |
08:42.31 | Shirik | Syzgyn: I'm kinda not being paid |
08:42.32 | Shirik | still want it? |
08:43.11 | Syzgyn | no, you can keep it |
08:43.18 | Syzgyn | lol |
08:43.40 | Shirik | today's task was fun though |
08:44.07 | Shirik | I have a microcontroller monitoring the state of a system and if it determines there is a problem, it cuts the power |
08:44.26 | Shirik | However if it cuts the power, it turns itself off too obviously, so how do we get the circuit to remember that the power was supposed to remain off? |
08:44.29 | Shirik | Fun times. |
08:44.41 | Syzgyn | that sounds less like a job and more like a class |
08:44.50 | Shirik | Well it's for a competition |
08:46.35 | Syzgyn | aha |
08:46.58 | Syzgyn | those can be fun |
08:47.02 | Syzgyn | but they dont pay the billz |
08:47.08 | Cairenn | night guys |
08:47.12 | kd3 | oyasumi |
08:50.50 | Shirik | Why does /castrandom work |
08:50.59 | Shirik | imo that should be removed from the game |
08:51.03 | Syzgyn | why? |
08:51.18 | Shirik | There is no valid reason to have it in game except to appease the people whom don't want to think |
08:52.17 | Syzgyn | I'll agree with that |
08:52.22 | Syzgyn | but its not breaking anything |
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08:52.36 | Shirik | nor was decursive, by that logic |
08:52.38 | kd3 | "but I want to randomly choose which mount I use!" |
08:52.56 | Shirik | ok, kd3, then make /userandom only work with items |
08:53.11 | Shirik | or make it only work out of combat |
08:53.44 | Syzgyn | comparing /castrandom to Decursive is a stretch |
08:54.41 | Shirik | I never did |
08:54.48 | Shirik | I merely stated that it follows your logic |
08:55.27 | Syzgyn | wait what? what logic is that? |
08:55.40 | Syzgyn | that it makes it so you dont have to think? |
08:56.20 | Shirik | castrandom [target=target] Purge, Earth Shock, Frost Shock, OwnedInTheFace Shock |
08:56.27 | fromatz | anyone know if they plan to fix the update_battlefield_status event? |
08:56.34 | Syzgyn | thats worthless though Shirik |
08:56.41 | Shirik | how is it worthless? |
08:56.59 | Syzgyn | someone using that would get trashed by someone actually playing |
08:57.14 | Shirik | I could also make my own little decursive using castrandom |
08:57.20 | Shirik | I just need to hit the button extremely rapidly |
08:57.31 | Shirik | about 25Hz to be exact for an average 1s resposne time |
08:57.32 | Shirik | but it works |
08:57.48 | Shirik | er, sorry |
08:57.52 | Syzgyn | I dont see how that'd be possible on the same scope as decursive |
08:57.53 | Shirik | 25Hz would be 0.5s response time |
08:57.57 | Shirik | Why not? |
08:58.14 | Syzgyn | GCD? |
08:58.16 | Shirik | I can't dispel someone unless they have a debuff |
08:58.25 | Shirik | If they don't have a debuff, I don't invoke the GCD |
08:58.25 | Syzgyn | you cant target a random person with castrandom |
08:58.34 | Shirik | no |
08:58.37 | Shirik | but I can target the next person |
08:58.52 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
08:59.10 | Shirik | Fact of the matter is castrandom means you don't have to make the decisions |
08:59.27 | Shirik | And I can't think of any valid use (except the mount scenario kd3 stated) where it is not used for that purpose |
08:59.33 | Shirik | for some kind of button spamming macro |
08:59.40 | Shirik | Rogues are ESPECIALLY guilty of it |
08:59.45 | Syzgyn | oh? |
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09:01.30 | Syzgyn | I still think that while decursive made you better at cleansing, /castrandom is going to make someone play worse than if they were doing things manually |
09:02.17 | kd3 | decursive? better? spamming ' 38 times a second does not a better cleanser make |
09:02.37 | kd3 | s/'/some key/ |
09:02.58 | Syzgyn | ok, not necessarily better |
09:03.02 | Syzgyn | but it got the job done |
09:03.12 | fromatz | s/'/some key/ |
09:03.19 | fromatz | heh |
09:03.54 | fromatz | a bot to correction grammar ftw |
09:03.56 | kd3 | of course. a little too well. that's why everything got broken in 2.0 so it wasn't possible any more. I still hate post 6-dec-06 naxx trash to this day |
09:04.10 | fromatz | and apparently i need one of those |
09:04.18 | Syzgyn | right |
09:04.36 | Syzgyn | I dont think any healer in their right mind is using castrandom to decurse |
09:04.45 | Shirik | I never said that they were |
09:04.49 | Shirik | I merely stated that it should be possible |
09:05.01 | Syzgyn | fair enough |
09:05.12 | Shirik | I STILL think there ARE people out there that are using castrandom to take some of their thinking out of the game |
09:05.19 | Shirik | And I DO agree that they're probably worse off that way |
09:05.26 | Shirik | That doesn't mean they should be able to do i |
09:05.30 | Syzgyn | Meh. |
09:05.45 | Shirik | I'm off for some Guitar hero :P |
09:05.49 | Syzgyn | If decursive made you less efficient than doing it manually, it would never have been broken |
09:05.52 | Syzgyn | haha |
09:06.02 | Shirik|AFK | It did make you less efficient |
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09:06.10 | Shirik|AFK | just the definition of efficient is dependent upon who you talk to |
09:06.13 | art3mis | http://assp.sourceforge.net/ <-- okay this is awesome |
09:06.17 | art3mis | and exactly what i need |
09:06.17 | Shirik|AFK | cleanses per second is not efficiency |
09:06.39 | art3mis | sets up a proxy mailserver to scan/scrub spam and virii before forwarding to the real smtp |
09:07.35 | Syzgyn | if you consider kitting 1 button every GCD vs hitting a button then moving your mouse to another frame, buttonmashing is going to win in the long run |
09:07.45 | Syzgyn | s/kitting/hitting |
09:07.51 | Syzgyn | s/kitting/hitting/ |
09:07.57 | Syzgyn | er, yeah |
09:08.34 | Guillotine | night all |
09:08.36 | Syzgyn | night |
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09:29.02 | Shirik|AFK | ~ping |
09:29.03 | purl | pong |
09:29.10 | Shirik|AFK | purl, say hi shirik |
09:29.11 | purl | hi shirik |
09:29.14 | Shirik|AFK | purl, say hi shirik|afk |
09:29.15 | purl | hi shirik|afk |
09:29.18 | Shirik|AFK | hm |
09:36.26 | batrick | hell ya |
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09:39.25 | batrick | sup shirik |
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09:39.45 | Shirik|AFK | hai |
09:39.47 | Shirik|AFK | relays are fun |
09:39.50 | batrick | sif |
09:40.04 | batrick | i finished mai cap't mo :( |
09:40.05 | Shirik|AFK | but apparently they destroy stuff too |
09:40.13 | Shirik|AFK | fricking back current spike |
09:41.25 | batrick | purl: yes |
09:41.25 | purl | You don't say! |
09:41.32 | Shirik|AFK | ... |
09:41.35 | Shirik|AFK | ~fail batrick |
09:41.36 | purl | batrick: Fail. |
09:41.41 | Shirik|AFK | drinking too much I see |
09:41.50 | batrick | i need more :( |
09:41.55 | batrick | i only got a good buzz |
09:41.57 | batrick | and i hate beer |
09:42.04 | Shirik|AFK | and yet yesterday you were telling me not to drink |
09:42.05 | batrick | so i'm stuck |
09:42.09 | batrick | no |
09:42.14 | batrick | i told u not to drink + code |
09:42.22 | Shirik|AFK | which is what you did last night |
09:42.24 | batrick | advice i failed to follow |
09:42.24 | Shirik|AFK | same diff |
09:42.36 | batrick | cuz when i woke up i had a fully functional serialization scheme for batbot :( |
09:42.57 | batrick | ^ that''s bad |
09:43.25 | |pez| | waking up at some ungodly hour saying "AHA!" and then run off to the computer to code it? :P |
09:43.28 | Shirik|AFK | Who the hell names a library "bouncycastle" |
09:43.32 | Shirik|AFK | like it's a great library and all |
09:43.35 | Shirik|AFK | but who came up with that name |
09:43.45 | batrick | no u |
09:44.02 | |pez| | bouncycastles are fun. |
09:44.03 | batrick | batbot: speak? |
09:44.04 | batbot | batrick, You may rely on it. |
09:44.18 | |pez| | maybe the person who made the library, reallyreally loves 'em. |
09:44.58 | Shirik | a bouncycastle is an object? |
09:45.41 | |pez| | http://www.bouncyfunandgames.co.uk/bouncycastle.jpg |
09:45.59 | Shirik | lol |
09:46.11 | Shirik | we call those "moon bounces" in the US |
09:46.38 | |pez| | but you can see how they can be called "bouncycastle" right? |
09:46.57 | |pez| | We call them "hoppeslott" in Norway, which in English is more or less.. "Jumpingcastle" |
09:47.15 | Shirik | yeah I can see that |
09:52.21 | |pez| | I really hope we get a dishwasher one of these days |
09:54.11 | Shirik | I think I'm really tired |
09:54.15 | Shirik | I can't see what's wrong with this line: |
09:54.23 | Shirik | outputFile = new File(OUTPUT_FOLDER, currentUpdate.newVersion + ."pem"); |
09:54.25 | Shirik | anyone see it? |
09:54.45 | Shirik | yes, outputFile is a File object, and OUTPUT_FOLDER is in scope and of the right time, as is currentUpdate.newVersion |
09:54.48 | |pez| | I'm betting there's an error to go with that? XD |
09:54.50 | Shirik | it is saying "identifier expected" |
09:55.41 | |pez| | hohum, I.. dunno really. |
09:55.51 | |pez| | I'm not really good at that stuff. |
09:56.04 | batrick | is it supposed to be ".pem" ? |
09:56.16 | Shirik | yes |
09:56.17 | Shirik | thanks |
09:56.21 | batrick | yw |
09:57.30 | wereHamster | Shirik, if you're tired you should get some sleep.. |
09:57.36 | Shirik | sleep is overrated |
09:58.20 | Shirik | :( |
09:58.53 | |pez| | Hey! that's cheating! |
09:58.54 | |pez| | ... |
09:59.09 | |pez| | Alrighty then, if man won't move to mountain, mountain will have to move to man. |
10:00.07 | |pez| | ... hopeless man. |
10:00.41 | Shirik | duvet? |
10:00.43 | kd3 | your body will stop you at some point. whee for nearly crashing on my desk ~a week ago. ended up sleeping from 21:30 to ~14:00 the next day |
10:00.43 | wereHamster | pull the plug :) |
10:00.44 | |pez| | blanket? |
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10:01.06 | |pez| | blanket one puts ontop of self when sleeping. |
10:01.10 | |pez| | duvet. |
10:01.34 | art3mis | okay this is awesome |
10:01.36 | kd3 | all I ever think of when I see the word duvet is the opening song to Serial Experiments Lain |
10:01.53 | art3mis | a thinkpad that i had that i thought was nothing more than parts actually still boots up from a hdd i have |
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10:02.25 | kd3 | lmao @ wikipedia... " "Duvet" is also the title of a song by Bôa from the album The Race of a Thousand Camels. " |
10:02.49 | |pez| | it might also be called duna, not too sure. |
10:02.52 | Shirik | kd3: Until that time |
10:02.54 | |pez| | we call them dyne here. |
10:02.57 | Shirik | I intend to get stuff done |
10:04.34 | batrick | lol |
10:06.18 | |pez| | Alright, Shirik, tell you what. I can sleep for you? :D |
10:06.51 | Shirik | go to sleep :) |
10:06.56 | Shirik | There's no reason you should be awake |
10:06.57 | Shirik | it's late |
10:07.08 | |pez| | it's 11am actually. |
10:07.33 | Shirik | and just got home from school 2 hours ago |
10:07.38 | Syzgyn | ewww |
10:10.05 | batrick | http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/02/22/memory.man.ap/index.html |
10:10.15 | batrick | pretty much the same story two years ago |
10:10.22 | batrick | hope they figure that out |
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10:12.11 | Shirik | mpdelbuono@li23-154 ~ $ diff ./bashmd5.sig ./bashdef.sig |
10:12.11 | Shirik | mpdelbuono@li23-154 ~ $ |
10:12.16 | Shirik | that means they were equivalent, right? |
10:12.20 | AlexanderYoshi | Hi |
10:12.24 | Shirik | hi |
10:13.04 | batrick | no it means your kernel is fuked |
10:13.10 | batrick | batbot: amirite? |
10:13.11 | batbot | batrick, Yes. |
10:13.17 | batrick | can't argue with that |
10:13.58 | |pez| | Ok, since Shirik won't sleep, I'll go try sleep some for him! |
10:14.00 | Shirik | mpdelbuono@li23-154 ~ $ diff ./bashmd5.sig ./bash2.sig |
10:14.00 | Shirik | Files ./bashmd5.sig and ./bash2.sig differ |
10:14.00 | Shirik | mpdelbuono@li23-154 ~ $ |
10:14.06 | Shirik | That's what seems to happen when they aren't the same :P |
10:15.21 | batrick | o ya? |
10:15.27 | fromatz | anyone know why this is returning nil? http://wowi.pastey.net/82853 |
10:15.44 | Shirik | fromatz: Why wouldn't it return nil? |
10:15.52 | batrick | lol |
10:15.52 | Shirik | actually it doesn't return nil |
10:15.54 | Shirik | it returns nothing |
10:15.56 | batrick | ^ |
10:16.57 | fromatz | =\ |
10:17.56 | fromatz | all i want it to do is save those variables to my savesvariables file |
10:18.04 | fromatz | and im sucking it up |
10:18.13 | batrick | o dear |
10:18.32 | batrick | well currently your saving over the globals up to the tenth iteration |
10:18.43 | batrick | and unless you are saving those globals ... |
10:19.36 | fromatz | yeah i know im saving over them on every iteration, i just cant figure out how to print them to the savedvariables file |
10:20.08 | batrick | you don't "print" to the saved variables file |
10:20.19 | batrick | stuff is saved only when you reload your ui, logout, etc. |
10:20.36 | batrick | and you need to tell blizzard via your .toc what global variables to save |
10:20.45 | wereHamster | .. saved automatically from the variables you list in the toc |
10:20.49 | fromatz | oh, i think thats what i need |
10:25.43 | Shirik | ahaha |
10:25.55 | lagger | does a Cooldown frame object need to be constantly updated with SetCooldown? |
10:25.59 | Shirik | org.apache.commons.ssl.ProbablyNotPKCS8Exception |
10:26.04 | Shirik | great exception class name. |
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10:43.30 | fromatz | why is my saved variables file still only displaying: BGInfo = nil |
10:43.38 | fromatz | when BGInfo isnt even a saved variable in the TOC |
10:43.58 | Shirik | have you restarted wow or reloaded your UI? |
10:44.08 | fromatz | yes, multiple times |
10:44.12 | fromatz | wait |
10:44.26 | fromatz | i havent restarted, but i have reloaded, ill try restarting |
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10:44.32 | Shirik | that won't matter |
10:44.44 | Shirik | Do you have ANY saved variables in the toc? |
10:45.11 | fromatz | yes |
10:45.24 | fromatz | i will pastey my code if you like? |
10:45.41 | Shirik | unfortunately I have to go to sleep |
10:45.44 | Shirik | maybe someone else can help |
10:45.50 | wereHamster | sleep? |
10:45.55 | fromatz | ok, thanks though |
10:45.56 | wereHamster | you said it's overrated |
10:46.01 | Shirik | this RSA stuff is hurting my head |
10:46.05 | Shirik | I need to take a break |
10:46.27 | wereHamster | and btw, you cuffed yourself to the desk, remember? |
10:46.39 | Shirik | yeah but |pez| dragged the bed to me |
10:46.47 | wereHamster | ay -.- |
10:46.56 | wereHamster | good night then :) |
10:47.41 | fromatz | http://wowi.pastey.net/82853 |
10:47.44 | fromatz | here is my code |
10:47.51 | fromatz | my saved variables are: |
10:47.52 | Corrodias | aaah hell. damn to hell. |
10:47.54 | wereHamster | and the toc? |
10:48.07 | [Liquidor] | fromatz, insert BFInfo to your .toc (remember to restart wow in case you change .toc - reloading UI won't reload .tocs), now as your code goes just insert data to your BGInfo variable. |
10:48.25 | Shirik | oh whoops, I forgot about that |
10:48.29 | Shirik | yes, you need to restart wow |
10:48.32 | Corrodias | i thought i moved everything off my old credit card, but WoW's still automatically charging to it, so now i'm late on the charge i didn't know about. i could have sworn i told it to charge on my other card. |
10:48.35 | Shirik | see this is what happens when you don't get enough sleep |
10:49.23 | [Liquidor] | Am I the only one who doesn't see the BGInfo variable being used in http://wowi.pastey.net/82853 ? |
10:49.37 | fromatz | yeah, its not used |
10:49.48 | fromatz | thats why im wondering why its there in my savedvariables file |
10:50.05 | fromatz | my saved variables are the variables before the battlefieldscore() call |
10:50.56 | wereHamster | BGInfo is nil, and WoW saves that in SV |
10:51.12 | wereHamster | everything is nil until you set it to something else |
10:51.12 | [Liquidor] | http://wowi.pastey.net/82858-330z:82853-15wh ? |
10:51.28 | wereHamster | nil means undefined |
10:52.04 | zenzelezz | did you show us your ##SavedVariables line? |
10:53.29 | [Liquidor] | Heh this is merely impossible to help. Hmm... |
10:53.54 | fromatz | ## SavedVariables: name, killingBlows, honorKills, deaths, honorGained, faction, rank, race, class, filename, damageDone, healingDone |
10:54.16 | wereHamster | you don't want that! |
10:54.20 | [Liquidor] | fromatz, read this: http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Save_Variables_Between_Game_Sessions |
10:54.26 | [Liquidor] | That's all you need to know. |
11:00.29 | fromatz | ok |
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11:08.30 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge is Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.3.x ToC: 20300 | WoW programming book http://tinyurl.com/2gdel9 | "ah apparently it's tonight here" - Mr_Rabies2 |
11:13.17 | batrick | fromatz: the .toc is only read when WoW starts |
11:13.23 | batrick | if you changed it then you need to restart wow |
11:13.35 | fromatz | someone said not to save all those variables in my toc |
11:13.46 | batrick | technically you shouldn't |
11:13.53 | fromatz | im pretty much lost atm, its been like 5hours straight staring at this stuff |
11:13.55 | fromatz | and reading |
11:13.56 | batrick | i'm jsut telling you why you saw no difference |
11:14.17 | foxlit | batrick: are you sure? |
11:14.25 | batrick | the best idea is to have one saved variable, a table, that will hold all the data youw ant |
11:14.38 | batrick | foxlit: i'm pretty damn sure, unless they've changed it recently |
11:15.02 | foxlit | batrick: there's a subtle difference: WoW does not load files that have been added to Interface/* after it starts |
11:15.14 | foxlit | I'm not sure whether it does or does not reload the .toc anyway |
11:15.20 | batrick | it doesn't reload .toc |
11:19.02 | Shirik | uhhh |
11:19.17 | batrick | somehow i knew, you were still awake |
11:19.20 | Shirik | so I've been using Netbeans' feature to automatically add imports when it finds a line that needs one |
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11:19.29 | Shirik | I just scrolled to the top of my file |
11:19.40 | batrick | (ecplise feature since forever) |
11:19.51 | Shirik | Netbeans feature since 4 |
11:19.55 | Shirik | which might as well be forever |
11:19.57 | Shirik | but I used to not use it |
11:20.04 | batrick | import feature is nice |
11:20.13 | Shirik | ... |
11:20.15 | Shirik | this is not nice: |
11:20.34 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/82859 |
11:20.52 | batrick | eclipse would collapse that for you |
11:21.08 | batrick | what's wrong iwth it anyway |
11:21.43 | foxlit | hey, look, it even keeps them sorted! |
11:21.50 | batrick | anyway i'm going to sleep |
11:21.51 | batrick | gnight |
11:23.06 | Shirik | me too |
11:23.06 | Shirik | night |
11:23.21 | Shirik | foxlit: Actually, that's just a side-effect |
11:23.25 | Shirik | at least I think it is |
11:23.35 | Shirik | I think that's just because I keep hitting the "add" button as I was typing the code |
11:23.45 | Shirik | and it so happened that these imports came up one after another in a logical order |
11:24.02 | Shirik | p.s. batrick, Netbeans can collapse that too |
11:24.05 | Shirik | but I HATE code folding |
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11:44.33 | fromatz | mm blank table, great.. |
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12:26.07 | SaiBork | hey all |
12:26.52 | SaiBork | I'm trying to create a very simple mod to save some info |
12:27.44 | SaiBork | I'm letting it gather the time im loging out and i want to save it per char but in a main lua, so not seperate lua's for each char |
12:28.06 | SaiBork | but as it is, it overrides the current info with the last used char info |
12:28.17 | SaiBork | can you peeps help me out, code is at: http://wowi.pastey.net/82862 |
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12:40.22 | foxlit | You assign an empty table to LastLogout there every time _getinfo is called |
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12:48.23 | SaiBork | yep got it now, thanks |
13:11.42 | zenzelezz | [...] yells: give boose in dm for a good price |
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13:19.11 | Nom- | wtb a mod to indicate which debuffs a boss is missing (tclap, demo shout, scorpid sting etc) |
13:19.15 | Nom- | anyone know of such a mod? |
13:24.47 | sag_ich_nicht | Nom- nope but i want it too |
13:26.25 | foxlit | It's somewhat trivial to write |
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13:35.42 | foxlit | come to think of it, I should do that for my unit frames |
13:35.53 | foxlit | Highlight debuffs I care about, drop everything else |
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13:40.38 | YammYgirlcoding | morning all |
13:41.06 | YammYgirlcoding | guys. I recently updated MapNotes here, and it's overwriting my existing mapnotes.lua with an empty file. What should I do? |
13:42.18 | zenzelezz | updating how? |
13:42.25 | YammYgirlcoding | i installed last version |
13:42.37 | YammYgirlcoding | since, it's overwriting my existing lua with an empty one |
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13:47.21 | YammYgirlcoding | any clue? |
13:47.42 | zenzelezz | afraid not, I don't use that mod myself |
13:49.28 | YammYgirlcoding | :( |
13:49.56 | zenzelezz | the channel hasn't really woken up yet, if you hang around someone might know |
13:51.55 | Nom- | Found one... |
13:51.59 | Nom- | Called Demon on wowace |
13:57.37 | foxlit | Hm, what would be the easiest way to format a number as follows: 108 -> "108", 1080 -> "1.1k", 10808080 -> "11m"? |
13:58.25 | Cide | um |
13:58.29 | Cide | log10 (num) |
13:58.58 | Cide | if result >= 3 then apply_formatting(result) end |
13:59.31 | Kirkburn | http://crap.fi:81/archive/6291.jpg :) |
14:01.41 | zenzelezz | lol |
14:01.46 | wereHamster | so Kirkburn, tell us which system is right for you? :) |
14:02.44 | Kirkburn | PS3, duh |
14:03.20 | Cide | wii all the way for me |
14:04.02 | wereHamster | I would have thought the PC since you're all into WoW |
14:04.10 | Cide | I am? |
14:04.13 | Kirkburn | <3 mah Wii |
14:04.32 | wereHamster | are you not cide? |
14:04.37 | Cide | not really |
14:04.44 | Cide | I'm just awesome and know everything |
14:04.52 | wereHamster | but you are still working on CT, right? |
14:04.54 | Cide | but I don't play it much nowadays |
14:04.58 | Cide | wereHamster: yep |
14:06.25 | Tem|AFK | HA! I CRUSHED AN APPLE, FRUIT VENDOR! THIS WILL NOT BE THE LAST!! |
14:11.46 | zenzelezz | well, he is speaking the truth |
14:11.51 | zenzelezz | he keeps crushing them all the time |
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15:35.59 | foxlit | What's the NormalFont equivalent of SetDisabledFontObject? |
15:36.03 | foxlit | (buttons) |
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15:37.21 | foxlit | [SetTextFontObject] |
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15:40.44 | foxlit | Font-related question: http://wowi.pastey.net/82867 |
15:45.12 | foxlit | [It is actually updated - but the button font string is resized based on text, so has no effect unless it is actually larger than the text it displays] |
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16:24.58 | Shizen | o/ |
16:25.14 | Shizen | man it's good to be home |
16:25.25 | Shizen | in fact it's so good I jumped right on the net... as you can see... |
16:25.31 | Olison | ^ ! |
16:25.35 | zenzelezz | of course |
16:25.41 | zenzelezz | what else would you do when you get home? |
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16:27.01 | Shizen | ahaha |
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16:49.06 | oreth | Somedays you pray for silence |
16:49.12 | oreth | and someday you pray for soul |
16:49.24 | oreth | and somedays you pray to the god of Sex and Drugs and Rock 'n Roll! |
16:50.00 | zenzelezz | I'm sure peppy and Cairenn will be around later |
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16:51.29 | Lopeppeppy | I am here, zenzelezz. |
16:52.02 | zenzelezz | you scared away oreth! |
16:52.10 | Lopeppeppy | I seem to have that effect on men. |
16:52.28 | zenzelezz | feeble men |
16:53.57 | Lopeppeppy | I seem to find that sort, yes. |
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16:58.28 | foxlit | "pure virtual function call" |
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16:58.41 | zenzelezz | ouch |
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17:13.14 | Crysli | I have a problem with CSS. |
17:13.14 | Crysli | I'm trying to make a horizontal menu. I'd like to make each link have a fixed width, but just applying it to them in my stylesheet doesn't seem to work. Any suggestions? |
17:13.52 | Lopeppeppy | Have you taken into account that fixed width works differently on different monitors? designing for 800 width? |
17:14.22 | Crysli | I've considered that, yes. |
17:14.37 | Maldivia | setting width in css should work |
17:14.49 | zenzelezz | I'm not really familiar with doing *good* stuff in CSS, but I see a bunch of such menus made with fixed-width <li>s |
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17:15.00 | Maldivia | ofcourse, depends on how you set, and on what, and if there are other styles that override it |
17:15.33 | foxlit | inline elements |
17:16.46 | Crysli | foxlit: Hm? |
17:17.03 | foxlit | Or maybe not :) |
17:20.17 | Crysli | I've previously experienced that an easy way to make an alement a fixed width and height is to use display:block - but since that also adds a line break before and after the element that's not a valid option here. |
17:22.48 | |pez| | floaaat! XD |
17:23.35 | Crysli | |pez|: No. |
17:23.37 | Crysli | :D |
17:24.12 | |pez| | float is neat! |
17:24.41 | Cide | you have to |
17:24.47 | Cide | because css is a piece of shit |
17:25.20 | |pez| | Heck, I even make seperator divs of varying sizes, instead of using margins and such. :P just because the different browsers deal with that differently. :P |
17:26.35 | Crysli | Yeah, looks like I'll have to resort to a float. |
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17:38.17 | Corrodias | WoW sure takes a long time to load if i haven't played it in a while |
17:40.58 | Crysli | I hate the box model problem >_< |
17:41.10 | Cide | just hate IE |
17:41.18 | Crysli | Brb, doing an awful hack. |
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18:17.49 | Shizen | Cide |
18:17.59 | Cide | yes? |
18:18.03 | Shizen | you on test ? |
18:18.07 | Cide | no |
18:18.12 | Shizen | hummm |
18:18.14 | Lopeppeppy | Is test back up? |
18:18.19 | Shizen | oh it's down ? |
18:18.24 | Shizen | <-- just got home |
18:18.28 | Shizen | <-- wondering what's the new news |
18:18.43 | Shizen | also... I hate abstraction model >_> |
18:18.44 | Lopeppeppy | Been down a while now, there was a stat dupe bug that frelled the universe up. |
18:18.48 | Shizen | ahhh |
18:19.09 | Shizen | seems like a very fundamental bug that would spell Jeopardy with a big G |
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18:21.17 | Shizen | urgh for crying out loud... |
18:21.32 | Shizen | why must they put requirement for "strong knowledge of Object Oriented Programming" |
18:21.40 | Shizen | and then put "knowledge of .net/Java" soon after |
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18:26.27 | cladhaire | because everyone lies on their resume |
18:26.29 | cladhaire | :P |
18:27.59 | Shizen | guilty as charged |
18:28.02 | Shizen | well.... not exactly |
18:28.10 | Shizen | since my sister took the liberty of writing my cover letter >_> |
18:28.38 | Shizen | *sigh* |
18:28.52 | Shizen | you got any job for inexperienced EE/self-learned Computer Tech clad ? ;P |
18:29.27 | cladhaire | probably, that would take an interview to determine |
18:29.34 | cladhaire | not that i have any jobs to give period |
18:29.38 | cladhaire | but in a more general sense :P |
18:29.51 | Shizen | hmmm ? |
18:29.57 | Shizen | elaborate |
18:30.12 | clad|away | The entry level IT jobs that exist, shouldn't have any requirements |
18:30.13 | clad|away | and they do |
18:30.33 | Shizen | entry level... |
18:30.37 | Shizen | we're lacking that here... :| |
18:30.42 | clad|away | i don't have time to launch into a critique of the american education system |
18:30.49 | zenzelezz | they only really have requirements when they can pick and choose among applicants |
18:30.52 | Shizen | hey, I don't either |
18:30.58 | Shizen | especially since it's not my education system :P |
18:31.01 | clad|away | cause i have to run |
18:31.05 | Shizen | o/ |
18:31.06 | zenzelezz | over here there is a demand for people, so you can get away with little experience and whatevre |
18:31.07 | zenzelezz | *er |
18:31.46 | Shizen | hrmmm |
18:31.51 | Shizen | maybe I SHOULD take a JLPT course |
18:32.12 | Shizen | there's TONS of entry level in daijob that wouldn't mind employing someone from out of the country |
18:32.21 | Shizen | all they ask is fluency in their language :| |
18:33.26 | Shizen | you know what's interesting in daijob ? Job category : Entertainment(Game/Video/Audio) |
18:33.41 | Shizen | s/Entertainment/Creative |
18:36.34 | Corrodias | this is odd. oRA refuses to show the main tanks. |
18:36.56 | Lopeppeppy | ../reloadui? |
18:37.37 | Corrodias | might try that; they've rebroadcasted the list and i've had it refresh the list a couple of times, no go |
18:37.45 | Corrodias | we're pulling quickly here, no time to reload just right now |
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18:45.46 | zenzelezz | [...] whispers: need you to yank dornholde |
18:46.57 | zenzelezz | also... a German in my guild is speaking a lot on vent today, and he has quite a German-English pronunciation... |
18:47.02 | zenzelezz | sauce = south |
18:50.03 | Crysli | haha |
18:50.19 | Crysli | Sucks to be sauce-american |
18:51.36 | Shizen | sucks more to be suffer-merry-can |
18:51.51 | Crysli | You've got a point |
18:51.52 | Shizen | ^ one of my buddy pronounce like that |
18:52.30 | kd3 | hah... they really did leave the PTR offline |
18:53.08 | Shizen | well |
18:53.19 | Shizen | can't have the world Geopardized, you know |
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19:00.06 | malikeye | anybody using the UI manager ? |
19:00.23 | Cairenn | ? |
19:01.36 | malikeye | just interested in thoughts about keyloggers... I totally wanna use it, but, I have to trust that it's not a keylogger :) |
19:01.53 | Cairenn | which one? whose manager? |
19:02.06 | malikeye | not saying that it is, but it could potentially be a problem |
19:02.08 | malikeye | the wowui one |
19:02.28 | Cairenn | UICentral? apparently it's clean atm |
19:02.48 | MentalPower | ATM being the keyword here :) |
19:02.52 | Lopeppeppy | If you are at all uncertain about how safe an .exe is, just don't use it. |
19:02.54 | malikeye | err, sorry.. the wowinterface.com one.. this is the wowinterface channel, right ? :) |
19:03.07 | malikeye | Lopeppeppy: agreed, but I wanna use it :) |
19:03.08 | malikeye | haha |
19:03.15 | Cairenn | this is a multi-site channel, since it's aimed at authors, not sites |
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19:03.20 | malikeye | ahh |
19:03.20 | Cairenn | hence the confusion :) |
19:03.28 | malikeye | I was mistaken, sorry |
19:03.32 | Cairenn | no worries :) |
19:03.32 | Lopeppeppy | Cairenn, tell him about wowinterface.com! :) |
19:03.48 | malikeye | no need, I am a fan already :) |
19:04.13 | Cairenn | Shirik|zZz is the author of the one on WoWI, he only just put it up a couple days ago |
19:04.26 | malikeye | yeah, I just saw it now... looks very cool |
19:04.31 | Cairenn | it should be absolutely fine, but no one can ever guarantee 100% |
19:04.38 | malikeye | yep |
19:04.50 | malikeye | guess it's no different than running the wowace updater |
19:04.54 | Cairenn | he does have a lot of security measures in it though, to help try to make sure |
19:04.59 | Cairenn | nope, no different at all |
19:05.30 | zenzelezz | as a rogue, how do you tell if something sees through stealth? Like many dogs |
19:05.40 | Cairenn | you should always check though, make sure you have a good virus checker, etc |
19:05.50 | kd3 | in stealth, there's a truesight icon that appears above the name tag of the mobs |
19:06.02 | kd3 | much like a hunter's mark |
19:06.05 | malikeye | yeah, my AV is alwayds up2date, but that doesn't really help against keyloggers |
19:06.19 | malikeye | err, always, even |
19:06.31 | zenzelezz | kd3: thanks :) Got a rogue to 28 and finally starting to understand something about them :-p |
19:06.35 | Cairenn | I'd rather people be paranoid, even about WoWI, than reckless and have something go wrong |
19:06.46 | malikeye | yeah, I be paranoid |
19:06.53 | malikeye | haha |
19:06.58 | kd3 | zen; the only way I learned was getting invis at 70. the same icon appears if mobs can see invis too |
19:07.33 | Cairenn | malikeye: trust me, we know about them not always catching stuff, it was folks in here that helped track down the one that was going around lately, and most of the scanners STILL don't catch it, even though we've sent the information to them a couple times now |
19:07.41 | malikeye | keeping up with mods is such a pain in the ass though... haha |
19:07.55 | Shizen | h-mmm |
19:08.10 | Shizen | maybe we should push authors to use some subversioning |
19:09.14 | malikeye | I think my AV updates daily and runs a full scan daily... if that's paranoid :) |
19:09.19 | Shizen | zenze : it might be just me but, mobs in 'truesight mode' detects you at a greater range than its initial face-pull aggro range |
19:09.22 | Lopeppeppy | I only do mine once every 2 weeks, malikeye. The incremental things aren't always uber different, why make myself stress? |
19:09.47 | Cairenn | malikeye: I run two daily - I HAVE to make sure my machine stays clean |
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19:09.56 | malikeye | Lopeppeppy: I haven't done mine in a long time... so it's gonna take me an hour... but I guess I gotta pay for using non-standard stuff |
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19:10.48 | Shizen | my rule about exes are |
19:11.13 | Shizen | if I don't know where they from, I check the hex looking for apparent suspicious things |
19:11.19 | malikeye | I was gonna wait till 2.4 actually |
19:11.27 | Shizen | next would be a Sir Google search |
19:11.46 | Shizen | though of course if I don't know where they're from, it's the shift-del |
19:11.53 | Shizen | (usually) |
19:12.52 | Guillotine | I am geeking out. The ring tone of my phone is now Code Monkey XD And I was able to do it using nothing but freeware from sourceforge and the built-in bluetooth |
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19:14.47 | zenzelezz | my ringtone is the Lotus Turbo Challenge II theme; my morning alarm is the Illidan "Behold the power of the DEMON within!", my new SMS alert is Aran's "I'm not done with you yet - nooo, I still have some tricks up my sleeve" |
19:14.54 | zenzelezz | now if I only had some firneds |
19:14.57 | zenzelezz | *friends |
19:15.37 | dylanm | I don't see why not. |
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19:17.18 | MentalPower | Shizen: SVN as a distribution method sucks |
19:17.32 | MentalPower | its really inefficient for that |
19:17.45 | MentalPower | just ask the WoWAce guys why they have files.wowace.com |
19:17.57 | dylanm | Yeah you don't want that. |
19:18.08 | Shizen | hmmm |
19:18.29 | Atriace | what would be the correct way to do the following? if myVar==nil then |
19:19.14 | Vangual | was it ever disclosed what distribution backend the thott updater used? |
19:19.26 | Shizen | *shrug* |
19:19.30 | Shizen | I don't think I want to know ;) |
19:19.59 | Guillotine | Atriace: if not myVar then |
19:20.06 | Atriace | Thanks |
19:20.08 | MentalPower | Atriace: do you *have* to check if its nil? |
19:20.17 | MentalPower | ie, is false a valid value? |
19:20.30 | MentalPower | if not then Guillotine's answer is correct |
19:20.35 | Atriace | Well, I only want to declare the value of my var if it has no value. |
19:20.45 | Atriace | And it's a local |
19:20.48 | Guillotine | what type is it? A boolean? |
19:20.53 | Atriace | Numeric |
19:20.58 | Guillotine | then use my version |
19:21.03 | MentalPower | use Guillotine's |
19:22.15 | fromatz | well i thought http://wowi.pastey.net/82872 would work |
19:22.37 | fromatz | but BGInfo = {} by the end of the 10th iteration =\ |
19:24.04 | wereHamster | table.insert(table, [pos,] value) |
19:24.24 | wereHamster | whoever told you you could do table.insert(BGInfo, GetBattlefieldScore(i)); was wrong |
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19:25.10 | fromatz | ok so table, pos, value, ill test that out thanks |
19:26.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Most interesting signature EVER: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4822044019&sid=1&pageNo=9#174 |
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19:42.25 | Antiarc | kd3: re: your rendering bug thread. Have you tried playing with the farclip/nearclip/fog cvars? |
19:42.50 | kd3 | nah. |
19:42.51 | Antiarc | That looks suspiciously like something in the WoW build is invoking a bug in the Linux nvidia drivers |
19:43.23 | Antiarc | The clip plane just isn't rendering properly |
19:43.36 | kd3 | I wouldn't be surprised, there's other issues too (losing all fontstrings if I port in to shat at the wrong time while everything loads), but I know those are linux related |
19:43.42 | kd3 | nah, the clip plane bug is different |
19:43.49 | Dreadlorde | Hi everyone, I was wondering if someone could answer a question I have? |
19:43.54 | kd3 | ~asktoask |
19:43.55 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
19:44.00 | Lopeppeppy | Lay it out, Dreadlorde |
19:44.14 | Dreadlorde | is there a way to hide the MainMenuBar art? |
19:44.24 | kd3 | ya. most bar mods can do that. |
19:44.34 | Lopeppeppy | And there are mods just to hide the griffons as well. |
19:45.58 | Lopeppeppy | I'm not sure if this macro still works... |
19:46.30 | Dreadlorde | I know that, but I'm making an addon and need to hide just the art, but can't figure out how to do it >.< |
19:47.26 | Lopeppeppy | Hmm... let me see if I can find the mod that already does it, you could learn from that. |
19:48.18 | Lopeppeppy | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/search.php |
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19:49.02 | Atriace | Is there a way to not define arguments for a function? For instance: |
19:49.06 | Atriace | MainMenuBar:SetPoint("BOTTOMLEFT", UIParent, "BOTTOMLEFT", 0, 0); |
19:49.14 | Atriace | becomes... |
19:49.14 | Atriace | MainMenuBar:SetPoint("BOTTOMLEFT", _, _, 0, _); |
19:49.30 | Atriace | But obviously not that since _ is defined as a variable elsewhere. |
19:51.02 | zenzelezz | for functions you define or pre-defined functions? |
19:51.19 | Atriace | In particular SetPoint |
19:51.38 | zenzelezz | think you're stuck with the different calls that one accepts |
19:51.45 | Atriace | I don't want to redefine the Y or the Parent, etc.. just the Anchor and the X |
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19:52.58 | zenzelezz | from the wiki, "obj:SetPoint(point [, frame] [, relativePoint] [, x [, y]]);"... seems pretty flexible, but I'm not sure |
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20:05.33 | fromatz | would this not be a valid table insert? |
20:05.48 | fromatz | table.insert(BGInfo, i, GetBattlefieldScore(i)); |
20:11.13 | Shirik | Atriace: Just use GetPoint() and use the old values |
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20:17.07 | Cairenn | hey Iriel |
20:17.14 | Cairenn | and ckknight |
20:17.20 | Iriel | Afternoon |
20:17.33 | Shirik | afternoon |
20:23.04 | fromatz | i was reading some info about needind to create a frame to register an event... if i have multiple events, can i use the same frame? |
20:26.39 | zenzelezz | yes |
20:27.22 | fromatz | thanks |
20:28.52 | Fin | what's the difference between the CVars cameraDistanceMax, and cameraDistanceMaxFactor? |
20:29.14 | zenzelezz | the last one is sponsored by a cosmetics company |
20:29.27 | Cairenn | ROFL! |
20:34.34 | fromatz | hmm i must be calling GetBattlefieldScore() wrong |
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20:35.27 | fromatz | i just made an event that when registered fills a table up with just 10 integers and that works... but when i substitute the integer im inserting into the table with GetBattlefieldScore(i) it saves a blank table |
20:36.00 | kd3 | whee, the PTR's back up |
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20:43.20 | Guillotine | Anybody know of a good VM to run Linux? (Specifically Fedora) |
20:43.33 | Guillotine | I think somebody linked an interesting looking VM a day or two ago |
20:43.36 | kd3 | vm like xen or like vmware? |
20:44.04 | sag_ich_nicht | http://pastey.net/82878 |
20:44.05 | nevcairiel | you answered both questions there, eh? |
20:44.11 | Guillotine | err, whats the difference? |
20:44.23 | Guillotine | Haven't used many VMs recently :( |
20:44.35 | kd3 | vmware runs on top of linux, linux runs on top of xen |
20:44.41 | nevcairiel | vmware starts a VM inside any host system |
20:44.50 | nevcairiel | xen hosts multiple VMs inside itself |
20:45.03 | Guillotine | ah, then vmware |
20:45.06 | zenzelezz | linux becomes self-aware |
20:46.06 | Lopeppeppy | I'm sorry Dave, I can't let you do that. |
20:48.00 | fromatz | table.insert(BGInfo, i, GetBattlefieldScore(i)); |
20:48.51 | wereHamster | no |
20:49.10 | wereHamster | table.insert(BGInfo, { GetBattlefieldScore(i) }) |
20:49.48 | fromatz | so i dont need a position parameter? |
20:50.09 | wereHamster | depends on how you want to save the data in the table |
20:50.30 | wereHamster | without the position parameter table.insert appends the data at the end of the table |
20:51.02 | Shirik | kd3: ex., linode runs xen I guess? |
20:51.17 | kd3 | I dunno. not familiar with linode at all |
20:51.17 | Shirik | I never heard of xen before |
20:51.30 | fromatz | can i ask why i need the brackets around get battlefield score? is that to signify that it is also a table? |
20:51.31 | wereHamster | really? |
20:51.32 | Shirik | well if you wanted to give 20 people their own root access server without conflicting with each other |
20:51.37 | Shirik | is that what you'd use? |
20:51.40 | kd3 | yah |
20:51.51 | Shirik | I'll have to look into this |
20:52.35 | wereHamster | fromatz, {} creates a table. { someFunction() } creates a table and fills it with all the return valuse from the function. |
20:53.14 | fromatz | ok, yeah that makes sense, thanks hamster |
20:53.17 | fromatz | it works now |
20:53.27 | wereHamster | _were_ hamster! |
20:53.30 | wereHamster | :) |
20:53.40 | fromatz | werehamster =] |
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20:59.59 | Shirik | regexes: whitespace is \s? |
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21:05.59 | Cide | Shirik: depends on flavor I'm guessing |
21:06.01 | Cide | in python, yes |
21:06.05 | Cide | in lua, %s |
21:06.40 | Shirik | perl-compatible regexes |
21:06.51 | Shirik | so yes, pythony stuff |
21:06.55 | Shirik | and thanks |
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21:18.57 | art3mis | hrm this spamfilter proxy thingy is rpetty neat |
21:19.07 | art3mis | i feel kind of dirty using perl on a win2k3 server |
21:19.10 | art3mis | though |
21:20.29 | Shirik | ok. |
21:20.46 | Shirik | There is NO REASON an operating system should have a blocking kernel call that takes more than half a second |
21:20.56 | Shirik | whereas Microsoft decided to make one that takes 2 seconds... |
21:21.06 | Iriel | Blocking on the caller or the whole OS? |
21:21.16 | Shirik | The whole OS |
21:21.18 | zenzelezz | which call? |
21:21.18 | Shirik | well |
21:21.24 | Shirik | any process that needs to get into the kernel |
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21:21.31 | Shirik | which is effectly them all |
21:21.40 | Shirik | zenzelezz: The call that switches to the Vista secure desktop |
21:21.48 | Shirik | It interrupts my music :( |
21:22.21 | Iriel | Is it deliberately delayed in order to thwart brute-force attacks or background attacks? |
21:22.30 | Iriel | i.e. it'll have an obvious impact you can't miss |
21:22.48 | Shirik | I haven't done enough research; all I know is that my music keeps being interrupted :( |
21:24.20 | Shirik | I like Vista's security and all, UAC is nice, and the secure desktop is a good idea |
21:24.24 | Shirik | but it needs to be faster... |
21:24.35 | Shirik | unless there really is a reason like you suggested, which may be true |
21:26.31 | Iriel | One would hope if that was the case they'd have documented it as such |
21:27.15 | batrick | morning |
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21:39.53 | art3mis | anyone know of any sites that offer free "spam testing" ? |
21:40.51 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.3.x ToC: 20300 | WoW programming book http://tinyurl.com/2gdel9 | "Computers are like air conditioning. Both stop working when you open Windows(tm)!" |
21:41.02 | Kalroth | :D |
21:41.03 | batrick | heh |
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21:47.40 | Iriel | Anyone in wow right now want to run a test for me? |
21:47.48 | zenzelezz | live or test? |
21:47.51 | kd3 | what do you need? |
21:47.59 | Iriel | be mounted,with no "Well Fed' bonus, then right click on a food item in your bag |
21:48.17 | kd3 | sec. in the water atm |
21:48.18 | Iriel | See if you dismount, consume the food, but dont sit |
21:48.38 | Iriel | live, too |
21:48.54 | Iriel | I just wasted a bunch of food because of this |
21:49.11 | Iriel | It /might/ be hunter specific, but I dunno |
21:49.15 | kd3 | on ptr, mounted w/o well-fed and eating conjured food works normally |
21:49.30 | Iriel | Hm.. I go to eat, but stand up immediately |
21:49.42 | kd3 | using real food, also works normally, get well fed as appropriate |
21:49.49 | Iriel | Interesting |
21:50.00 | Iriel | I'll have to try some tests later without my pet out |
21:50.47 | fromatz | GetBattlefieldInstance |
21:51.07 | fromatz | Info, is that just an integer correlating to wsg 29 or 27 etc |
21:52.50 | wereHamster | ~api GetBattlefieldInstance |
21:52.51 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetBattlefieldInstance |
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21:54.33 | fromatz | ~api GetBattlefieldInstanceInfo |
21:54.34 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetBattlefieldInstanceInfo |
21:56.13 | Shirik | !ap 1629 |
21:56.14 | WoWLuaircBot | Shirik: Arena points from a rating of 1629 is, 2v2: 383, 3v3: 444, 5v5: 504 |
21:56.27 | Stanzilla | !ap 1000 |
21:56.27 | WoWLuaircBot | Stanzilla: Arena points from a rating of 1000 is, 2v2: 177, 3v3: 205, 5v5: 234 |
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21:59.29 | art3mis | http://despair.com/idiocy.html |
21:59.53 | Nolook | ~api GetBattlefieldStatus |
21:59.53 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetBattlefieldStatus |
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22:04.04 | Shirik | won all of our arena games this week... |
22:04.08 | Shirik | yey |
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22:04.30 | phunk | Hey all |
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22:07.36 | fromatz | is there any way i can force new lines in lua? |
22:07.51 | dylanm | Force? |
22:08.17 | fromatz | i have a table that pulls bg info, and then another table pulling player info inside the bg |
22:08.22 | Shirik | LMAO ok we did one extra game |
22:08.27 | Shirik | I was mad cuase we lost |
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22:08.31 | Shirik | until I saw the points change |
22:08.32 | Shirik | "-3" |
22:08.34 | fromatz | will lua append my two tables, or seperate them |
22:09.09 | dylanm | You're not describing this well. Maybe just pastey what you're talking about? |
22:09.25 | dylanm | Or maybe I'm dumb I don't know :) |
22:09.49 | wereHamster | describe what you're trying to do.. |
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22:14.04 | phunk | I have a question about removing bar textures. The names of the bars specifically. Can someone pm me so I can talk to them? |
22:15.24 | wereHamster | you can ask here.. |
22:15.31 | clad|away | no API changes of any kind between ptr builds on the last patch |
22:16.19 | Kaso | This channels whole purpose is for asking questions, if noone asks questions the channel cries |
22:16.33 | phunk | I'm new to this :P |
22:17.03 | phunk | Basically, I understand how to take away the textures of the "Main Bar". It works fine. One bug is: When I go stealth on a rogue, the bar textures come back in the stealth abilities bar |
22:17.32 | dylanm | You're just doing :Hide() right? |
22:17.48 | dylanm | You could set its :Show to a function that does nothing. |
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22:18.00 | dylanm | Often that's what you have to do. |
22:18.06 | phunk | Yea |
22:18.15 | phunk | For example, what I have is: |
22:18.15 | Kaso | that does seem to be the solution |
22:18.26 | phunk | MainMenuBarTexture0:Hide() |
22:18.58 | Kaso | whateverTheFrameIsCalled:SetScript("OnShow",function() whateverTheFrameIsCalled:Hide() end) |
22:19.21 | Kaso | function whateverTheFrameIsCalled:Show() end |
22:19.29 | Kaso | thatd also do |
22:20.00 | phunk | So you're making it auto-hide if it tries to show it under any circumstance? |
22:20.11 | Kaso | yes |
22:20.17 | phunk | Roger that. |
22:20.22 | phunk | So like |
22:20.31 | Kaso | what the problem you'll be having is that when you switch to sealth its "refreshing" the bar and re showing everything |
22:20.55 | phunk | MainMenuBarTexture0:SetScript("OnShow",function() MainMenuBarTexture0:Hide() end) |
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22:22.10 | Kaso | Im not fully aware of the code around the mainmenubar, give it a try and see if it works |
22:22.26 | phunk | Alrighty. |
22:22.29 | phunk | Thanks my man |
22:24.16 | fromatz | why is BGPlayerInfo = { GetBattlefieldStatus() } giving me BGPlayerInfo = nil |
22:24.33 | fromatz | wait i may know why |
22:26.10 | Kaso | phunk, the SetScript method wont work as above |
22:26.41 | phunk | Ok |
22:27.23 | Kaso | MainMenuBarTexture0 is just a texture, you can only set scripts on frames |
22:27.37 | Kaso | but you can override the Show() function on the texture |
22:27.58 | Kaso | function() MainMenuBarTexture0:Show() --[[do nothing]] end |
22:31.12 | Kaso | ~pil |
22:31.12 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
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22:45.27 | zenzelezz | Cairenn slacking? Tsk tsk |
22:49.09 | zenzelezz | no retort, she must really be AFK :-o |
22:49.31 | Daede | heh |
22:49.34 | Daede | it's all good |
22:49.42 | Daede | i haven't updated my ui in 2 months |
22:49.47 | kd3 | good grief... loot lag is horrendous on the ptr right now |
22:49.58 | Daede | i doubt anybody's clicking refresh every 10 seconds waiting for a new version heh |
22:50.47 | Daede | oh hey on a side note, i finally got my guild website up and runin and lookin quite pimpalicious if i do say so myself |
22:50.55 | Daede | http://www.test4echo.org/ |
22:51.59 | phunkadelik | It looks alright |
22:52.16 | Daede | well, it's hella functional :) |
22:52.25 | Daede | it's got everything we need to stay organized |
22:52.26 | zenzelezz | not bad |
22:56.08 | phunkadelik | :) |
22:56.27 | foxlit | Okay, exploitable question |
22:56.42 | ScytheBlade1 | foxlit: this better be good |
22:56.45 | foxlit | Tracking and group blips on minimap show up as children of the minimap frame, right? |
22:56.49 | ScytheBlade1 | No |
22:56.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Sadly |
22:57.00 | ScytheBlade1 | As far as we know, they're drawn directly on to the minimap |
22:57.17 | ScytheBlade1 | I've poked at it, and Iriel has poked at it too on the past |
22:57.34 | Iriel | The arrows are children |
22:57.38 | Iriel | but the dots dont appear to be |
22:57.39 | ScytheBlade1 | And we both came up with the same answer, independant of each other: drawn straight on the minimap, not directly accessible short of reading the pixels on the screen |
22:57.42 | foxlit | There are about 30 different ones |
22:57.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
22:57.55 | ScytheBlade1 | The golden dots, ie herbs/etc, are not children |
22:58.02 | ScytheBlade1 | And those are usually the ones people are interested in |
22:58.32 | ScytheBlade1 | be back in ~5, afk! |
22:58.51 | Daede | thats the first person ive ever seen use ~ correctly |
22:59.32 | Daede | ~emulate Daede |
22:59.32 | purl | ACTION farted.. |
22:59.32 | foxlit | Foiled again, then |
22:59.39 | Daede | Purl say excuse me |
22:59.40 | purl | excuse me |
22:59.45 | Daede | ~botsnack |
22:59.45 | purl | aw, gee, Daede |
23:02.09 | Daede | alright well |
23:02.20 | Daede | im going to watch a movie now while iw ait for my update to go through |
23:02.24 | Daede | peace/piece |
23:02.31 | Daede | hope for both, settle for either |
23:02.36 | Daede | Purl, you suck. |
23:02.37 | purl | and very well I might add |
23:02.46 | MentalPower | purl sucks |
23:02.47 | purl | only if you ask nicely and pay well. |
23:02.54 | MentalPower | I like that one better :) |
23:03.18 | fromatz | =\ |
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23:05.21 | fromatz | BGPlayerInfo = { GetBattlefieldStatus() } \\anyone know why that is nil? |
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23:06.44 | Cide | fromatz: ambiguity is interesting. |
23:07.15 | fromatz | http://wowi.pastey.net/82889 |
23:07.48 | Cide | I don't care |
23:07.54 | foxlit | Yeah, ou're actually right :( |
23:08.09 | fromatz | ? |
23:08.10 | Cide | fromatz: "anyone know why that is nil" is ambiguous; what do you mean by "that" |
23:08.22 | dylanm | Oh the battleground stuff? Talk to Shadowed maybe he wrestles with that mess. |
23:08.22 | foxlit | All minimap children are either named or models representing arrows |
23:08.27 | Shadowed | ? |
23:08.40 | Shadowed | GetBattlefieldStatus accepts an index 1-3 |
23:08.42 | foxlit | Pity, thought about abusing elixir of demon tracking to project illidan's eyebeams |
23:08.57 | fromatz | that refers to the information before the comment |
23:08.59 | Shadowed | !API GetBattlefieldStatus |
23:09.05 | Shadowed | er |
23:09.09 | Shadowed | !api GetBattlefieldStatus |
23:09.10 | WoWLuaircBot | Shadowed: status, mapName, instanceID, lowestlevel, highestlevel, teamSize, registeredMatch = GetBattlefieldStatus(index); -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetBattlefieldStatus |
23:09.11 | fromatz | BGPlayerInfo = { GetBattlefieldStatus() } |
23:09.18 | fromatz | eh index |
23:09.24 | dylanm | I thought you had some problem with it not returning the right information. |
23:09.52 | Shadowed | Also, EoTS doesn't give you an "XX has won" message |
23:09.52 | Shadowed | fyi |
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23:13.28 | fromatz | ok, thanks |
23:13.57 | Cide | also |
23:14.26 | Cide | hardcoding in the texts means it won't work for people with other client languages |
23:14.49 | fromatz | oh, im pretty new, so i'm not aware of another way =\ |
23:16.13 | dylanm | Cide: Pretty sure you could just use one of Blizzard's global strings. |
23:16.24 | Cide | dylanm: I don't think so |
23:16.29 | Cide | well |
23:16.34 | Cide | it's possible that it contains it |
23:16.36 | dylanm | I forget what it looks like. |
23:16.44 | dylanm | Looking at it now there is a VICTORY_TEXT0 = "Horde Wins"; |
23:16.45 | Cide | but the CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM event gets the raw text as its argument |
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23:22.45 | fromatz | so the index that GetBattlefieldStatus takes is the number of that game, ex. Warsong 29 the index would be 29? |
23:23.40 | Cide | <Shadowed> GetBattlefieldStatus accepts an index 1-3 |
23:23.47 | fromatz | ok, so the type of game then |
23:23.49 | Cide | 29 is not 1-3 |
23:23.55 | Cide | www.wowwiki.com |
23:24.01 | Shadowed | Look at the API link I gave you |
23:24.02 | Shadowed | it explains it |
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23:27.04 | dylanm | Haha. |
23:27.05 | clad|away | Iriel: I'm still not convinced we can't get at them SOMEHOW |
23:27.11 | clad|away | but i haven't found a way yet :P |
23:27.28 | Shadowed | Not sure what magic way you plan on using to find them :p |
23:27.29 | Iriel | They're not children nor regions of the Minimap (recursively) |
23:27.31 | Shadowed | given you can't use the nameplate trick |
23:28.04 | Shadowed | I thought it was said they're drawn directly onto the map, so it's impossible to find them |
23:28.40 | Shirik | well |
23:28.50 | Shirik | believe it or not, someone HAS found a way to determine when a dot pops up |
23:28.53 | Shirik | just not where they are |
23:28.55 | Shadowed | ? |
23:28.58 | Shadowed | and hows that |
23:29.02 | Shirik | It's fairly simple |
23:29.14 | Shirik | shrink the minimap to 1px by 1px and put it under the cursor |
23:29.16 | Shadowed | I know there was the old trick of scaling the minimap to 0.1 and putting it under the mouse, but they fixed that |
23:29.23 | Shirik | oh did they? |
23:29.29 | Shirik | then there isn't a way :) |
23:29.34 | Shirik | well not that I'm aware of |
23:29.35 | Shadowed | they fixed it by making it so you have to actually move the mouse under the dot for the tooltip to show |
23:29.42 | Shadowed | (or so i'm told) |
23:31.19 | Fin | how is it possible to replace the various different dots with something else, then? |
23:31.34 | Shirik | I didn't realize that was possible |
23:31.35 | Fin | actually, never mind |
23:31.48 | Fin | it's definitely possible, I've got an addon that does it |
23:32.00 | Shirik | hehe |
23:32.00 | Fin | oh |
23:32.01 | Fin | huh |
23:32.13 | Fin | it's one image file for all the dots |
23:32.31 | Fin | I expected it to be separate |
23:32.42 | Shirik | !c us drenden kimina |
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23:32.49 | Shirik | works for Thrae :) |
23:33.22 | Lopeppeppy | Thrae is a pain in the arse. *frown* |
23:33.28 | Shadowed | Because we have an API call for it Fin |
23:33.38 | Shadowed | Or they're just replacing the Interface/Icons/ thing |
23:33.55 | Fin | Shadowed: have an API call for what, sorry? |
23:34.03 | Shadowed | minimap dots |
23:34.29 | Fin | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7829-AlternateBlipsFanUpdatefor2.3.html is the addon, btw |
23:34.29 | Shadowed | Minimap:SetBlipTexture - Set the file to use for blips (ObjectIcons) |
23:35.05 | Fin | it's just Minimap:SetBlipTexture("Interface\\AddOns\\AlternateBlips\\ObjectIcons") |
23:35.14 | Fin | that's the entire lua file, minus a comment |
23:35.39 | Shadowed | I suppose |
23:35.47 | Fin | weird, interesting, and totally useless |
23:36.12 | Shadowed | technically, if you could get the path of the blip texture set. You maybe able to go through all the regions/ect of every frame, and go through _G you could see if it's possible to access them |
23:36.16 | Shirik | blip blip |
23:36.17 | Shirik | hehe |
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23:37.24 | Iriel | Shadowed: Why on earth would blizzard put them in _G ? |
23:37.41 | Shadowed | just a random idea :p |
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23:40.15 | kd3 | well that was a letdown. built the memorial to the fallen at sun's reach and nothing happened... |
23:41.32 | Iriel | Whee, i've broken both test and live wow today |
23:41.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel: hehe, grats! |
23:44.20 | Shirik | this is awesome |
23:44.27 | Shirik | I created an inversely transparent window |
23:44.45 | Shirik | It is compeltely black, and every time you click on it, you actually click on whatever's behind it (be it another program, the desktop, whatever) |
23:44.51 | Shirik | but it's there |
23:44.59 | Shirik | and I can't get rid of it>< |
23:45.41 | Kalroth | I'm pretty sure there's a flag to make your windows click-though, at least on Windows :) |
23:45.43 | Shadowed | Iriel: Since you're here, and I figure you'd know for sure. Any way to debug what part of an addon is causing wow to crash from the crash log, or you just have to basically post it to slouken and see if he responds? |
23:45.56 | Shirik | Kalroth: Well, this is Java, so no OS-specific APIs |
23:45.58 | Shirik | just Swing |
23:46.18 | Shirik | also, when I hit "close," I don't get the usual "This program is not responding" |
23:46.19 | Kalroth | Ew, that's even worse; Swing-specific >< |
23:46.21 | Shirik | it's a wierd box |
23:46.30 | Shirik | Swing is actually pretty easy-to-use Kalroth |
23:46.35 | Shirik | and obviously it can't do anything the OS doesnt' support |
23:48.00 | Iriel | Shadowed: I'm not sure of any obvious way, unless you can find a string in the crash log that gives it away |
23:48.16 | Shadowed | guess I'll post and hope he responds then! |
23:48.30 | Iriel | Shirik: Sounds like that's a bug in the swing implementation |
23:48.42 | Shirik | I've never seen it before tbh |
23:48.55 | Shirik | though that doesn't mean it isn't a bug |
23:49.47 | Iriel | Well, i'm not aware of any swing API function to create a window that's going to pass clicks through |
23:50.33 | Shirik | neither am I |
23:50.38 | Shirik | but it also shouldn't be completely black :P |
23:50.45 | Shirik | so there's something really wrong |
23:50.49 | Shirik | I also can't close it |
23:51.06 | Shirik | I imagine I can kill the VM but that's about it |
23:52.04 | zenzelezz | omg Shirik's writing malware |
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23:52.29 | Shirik | magical window: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/13045fd17d24b8e1cfbc7e9dc57eb1cb.jpg |
23:52.39 | Shirik | I've never seen that "close program" window before (it usually looks different) and it doesn't work anyway |
23:52.45 | Shirik | I hit "end process" and it does nothing :P |
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