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| 00:00.23 | Lopeppeppy | Yup. OOM = dead still, even for shaman. |
| 00:00.41 | JoshBorke | other casters can still ranged! |
| 00:00.46 | JoshBorke | that's what wands are for! |
| 00:00.56 | Lopeppeppy | True, but shamans don't get wands, yes? |
| 00:01.12 | [dRaCo] | they dont |
| 00:01.33 | Lopeppeppy | Then have a nice DPS dagger for stabbity I guess. |
| 00:01.52 | [dRaCo] | have a fast dagger and put flametongue on it, yeah |
| 00:02.02 | [dRaCo] | helps at least when leveling |
| 00:02.33 | [dRaCo] | flametongue is pretty useful with 500+ spell dmg |
| 00:04.03 | Industrial | hm |
| 00:04.56 | Industrial | for now ill worry about getting Ripsaw from zul farrak :p |
| 00:05.13 | Wobin | lets see if compiz is what's screwing up audiosurf |
| 00:06.42 | Lopeppeppy | WTB interesting topics on the PTR forum... |
| 00:08.29 | Crysli | WTB interesting topics on EU forum... |
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| 00:10.22 | Industrial | wts forum |
| 00:10.37 | Industrial | never go there >_> same with wowi and i stopped going to wowace |
| 00:11.08 | Lopeppeppy | I'm bored with a cruddy home life. I need something to make me laugh. |
| 00:11.23 | Crysli | go look at lolcats. |
| 00:12.14 | Industrial | Lopeppeppy: RSS is your friend |
| 00:12.24 | Industrial | theres so much information you wont have time to read it all |
| 00:12.27 | Industrial | =D |
| 00:13.31 | Lopeppeppy | There's so much hilarity on the CS forums I don't need any lolicats. I've found the jackpot. |
| 00:14.44 | sysrage | wow |
| 00:14.50 | sysrage | red robin onion rings are orgasmic |
| 00:14.52 | foxlit | grab popcorn and go refresh http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/16/curses-terms-of-use-deserve-a-closer-look/#comments :) |
| 00:16.05 | sysrage | amazes me how many idiots get keyloggers and such from addon sites. why are so many morons running exes? |
| 00:17.27 | foxlit | Because they're morons. |
| 00:17.30 | foxlit | And morons are loud. |
| 00:18.17 | foxlit | It's not that there are really a lot of them :) |
| 00:20.05 | sysrage | good point |
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| 00:42.49 | Guillotine | ROFL |
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| 00:42.58 | Guillotine | that article claiming that incgamers has been a 'pretty well behaved site in the past' |
| 00:44.57 | sag_ich_nicht | lql |
| 00:47.50 | Esamynn | well well well, I have news on the Curse ToU stuff, net just contacted me to say that they have updated their ToU based on a conversation that took place yesterday, despite the fact that they haven't actually heard back from their lawyers yet on the new changes |
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| 00:52.35 | Guillotine | *sigh* at Eliah |
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| 00:53.02 | nevcairiel | did they take the part about updating it without me needing to agree with it again, or even notifying me about the change out too? |
| 00:53.40 | netcurse | We will send an email to every registered users monday. |
| 00:53.52 | netcurse | to notify the change. |
| 00:54.20 | netcurse | We can't do faster and i don't know how long it will take to send all the emails, we have nearly 500k registered users |
| 00:54.46 | Cide | shouldn't take that long I don't think |
| 00:54.50 | Cide | mail servers are pretty fast |
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| 01:01.34 | sag_ich_nicht | [01:54] <+Cide> mail servers are pretty fast <--SMTP was never fast. |
| 01:01.52 | Cide | get an array of smtp servers |
| 01:02.02 | nevcairiel | its not too slow |
| 01:02.30 | nevcairiel | a good smtp server will send alot of mails at the same time |
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| 01:17.53 | Corrodias | i'm getting laaaaggy. |
| 01:26.59 | Corrodias | so laggy :( |
| 01:34.33 | Wobin | Kirkburn|afk: I managed to get Audiosurf running |
| 01:34.36 | Wobin | It's very shiny |
| 01:34.45 | Tuller | yes, yes it is |
| 01:34.53 | Kirkburn|afk | :D |
| 01:35.06 | Kirkburn|afk | What account names do you have? |
| 01:35.11 | Wobin | Wobster |
| 01:35.18 | Tuller | have not bought it yet :P |
| 01:35.33 | Wobin | Now to see if compiz utterly ruins the possiblity |
| 01:35.55 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm Kirkburn, server is having problems atm, but will add you when I can |
| 01:36.45 | Tuller | i'm going to to have to strip the drm off of everything at some point :P |
| 01:37.39 | Kirkburn|afk | yeah |
| 01:38.43 | Wobin | aw man |
| 01:38.53 | Wobin | their servers are worse than Blizzards =P |
| 01:44.59 | Industrial | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/6acb5b63f1d30ffe6c5965bd9ab3c8cc.jpg |
| 01:45.03 | Industrial | thats why I like shaman |
| 01:46.53 | Cide | I don't see any reason? |
| 01:47.03 | Industrial | the damage output |
| 01:47.15 | Industrial | one strike, 50% hp |
| 01:47.16 | Cide | there is no dps meter? |
| 01:47.24 | Cide | meh |
| 01:48.08 | Industrial | 900somethin damage |
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| 01:56.57 | Wobin | clearly I should get audiosurfing before using compiz to play wow |
| 02:00.15 | Industrial | is that hard to play like stepmania? |
| 02:02.51 | Wobin | not at all |
| 02:02.59 | Wobin | It's really fun |
| 02:04.09 | Industrial | oh |
| 02:04.11 | Industrial | http://darkwired.org/~Industrial/games/sm/video/Untitled.wmv |
| 02:04.14 | Industrial | cuz I like stepmania :p |
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| 02:17.06 | Wobin | actually the thing that irritates me the most |
| 02:17.22 | Wobin | is that I lost the xthousand number of downloads for MrPlow =( |
| 02:18.34 | Wobin | I mean sure, it's just numbers =\ |
| 02:18.51 | Wobin | but going from 80 thousand to 351 downloads is... meh |
| 02:19.11 | Wobin | or however many there were |
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| 02:36.17 | Duman | jesus, they need to ban all the annoying people from the PTR forum |
| 02:37.58 | Lopeppeppy | I wish. |
| 02:37.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Duman: "[Feedback] Give paladins a tanking weapon" <-- NOT FEEDBACK QUIT YOUR QQING AND GO BACK TO YOUR CLASS FORUMS |
| 02:38.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Ban em' all. :) |
| 02:38.12 | Bela|afk | uhm |
| 02:38.14 | Bela|afk | they did |
| 02:38.24 | ScytheBlade1 | I saw that thread today |
| 02:38.26 | Bela|afk | I saw at least one on the rep vendor |
| 02:38.39 | Duman | heh |
| 02:38.51 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4665617080&sid=1 |
| 02:38.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Bam |
| 02:38.55 | Lukian | There's on in the new 5man |
| 02:39.01 | Lukian | one* |
| 02:39.15 | Duman | at least it says "suggestion"... but yeah |
| 02:39.19 | Kody | Wobin: Where'd you lose those downloads? |
| 02:39.26 | Wobin | on wowi |
| 02:39.31 | Kody | doh |
| 02:39.37 | Wobin | Cair deleted a whole lot of 'outdated' mods |
| 02:39.39 | Wobin | including MrPlow |
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| 02:40.11 | Bela|afk | need to check your files more often imho |
| 02:40.30 | Bela|afk | edit something, or make sure it isn't in the "Outdated Addons" category at least |
| 02:41.26 | sysrage | is there a macro conditional thing for 'if in raid' |
| 02:41.26 | Wobin | yeah =( |
| 02:41.56 | Lopeppeppy | sysrage, I think not. |
| 02:42.09 | Lopeppeppy | Cogwheel's sticky is exhausive in listing the valid conditions, check there. |
| 02:42.11 | Duman | wtf |
| 02:42.14 | Fin | can you not do [target=player, raid]? |
| 02:42.18 | sysrage | sticky where? |
| 02:42.19 | Duman | the client crashes whenever I adjust my sound settings |
| 02:42.29 | Lopeppeppy | WoW official UI/Macros forum, sysrage. |
| 02:42.32 | Fin | I suggest not adjusting your sound settings |
| 02:42.39 | Duman | (the PTR client) |
| 02:42.56 | ScytheBlade1 | -nosound imo |
| 02:42.57 | ScytheBlade1 | ;) |
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| 02:43.34 | Duman | heh |
| 02:45.37 | Bela|afk | its definitely buggy with sound. I can't run live and test at the same time for that reason |
| 02:46.08 | Duman | test is completely missing sounds for me |
| 02:46.15 | Duman | ambient seems to work |
| 02:47.19 | Shirik|Ecole | I've had that happen on current version |
| 02:47.26 | Shirik|Ecole | same problem, changing sound settings cause it to crash |
| 02:47.34 | Shirik|Ecole | you've tried restarting wow, etc? |
| 02:47.38 | Duman | yep |
| 02:47.45 | Duman | well, I mean, I have to |
| 02:47.46 | Shirik|Ecole | it's only periodic for me, and I don't get it on test (yet) |
| 02:47.47 | Duman | since it crashes ;) |
| 02:48.04 | sysrage | [group:raid] |
| 02:48.07 | sysrage | fyi |
| 02:48.41 | sysrage | now how do i use conditionals on a chat message? :P |
| 02:49.01 | Shirik|Ecole | you don't |
| 02:49.20 | Shirik|Ecole | you do /script if GetNumRaidMembers()>1 then SendChatMessage(... |
| 02:49.27 | sysrage | aww man. that sucks |
| 02:49.49 | sysrage | thanks though |
| 02:50.17 | sysrage | why don't they let you do conditional chat stuff? |
| 02:50.40 | foxlit | Older commands, no need to rewrite |
| 02:50.47 | foxlit | You could do it yourself if you wanted to, with addon code |
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| 02:54.34 | sysrage | is the channel for raid chat 1? |
| 02:54.46 | Shirik|Ecole | anyone familiar with POSIX programming and condition variables? |
| 02:54.53 | Shirik|Ecole | s/POSIX/pthreads/ |
| 03:05.18 | sysrage | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:05.23 | sysrage | why won't that work for party? |
| 03:10.02 | Shirik|Ecole | nm I found the problem |
| 03:13.59 | Tem | ugh this is annoying |
| 03:14.04 | Tem | I'm dueling a druid |
| 03:14.10 | Tem | but we can't find each other |
| 03:14.22 | Tem | and I suspect he's deliberately hiding from me |
| 03:14.30 | Shirik|Ecole | rofl |
| 03:14.40 | Shirik|Ecole | he probably left :D |
| 03:14.43 | Industrial | Shirik|Ecole: http://darkwired.org/~Industrial/games/sm/image/screen00039.jpg |
| 03:14.47 | Industrial | Shirik|Ecole: I win \o/ |
| 03:15.12 | Shirik|Ecole | 75 excellent |
| 03:15.15 | Shirik|Ecole | I am disappointed in you |
| 03:16.02 | Industrial | screw you I win :D |
| 03:16.12 | Wobin | Tem: He logs on three hours later, and goes "Oh, you're still here?" |
| 03:16.21 | Shirik|Ecole | heh, this should be a dlibert comic or something |
| 03:16.33 | Tem | he did leave |
| 03:16.36 | Tem | logged off |
| 03:16.39 | Shirik|Ecole | "There. The code works perfectly and has been 100% tested." "So you mean it compiles." "No, I haven't tried that yet." |
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| 03:27.58 | sysrage | is there a good small mod that will tell me who breaks my sheep? |
| 03:33.45 | Gnarfoz | BigBrother |
| 03:34.01 | Gnarfoz | (although it's not really, REALLY small, it does it in a simple way) |
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| 04:02.05 | Legorol | mmm, feels good... my hunter was the ninja of the evening in Karazhan today |
| 04:02.12 | Legorol | 4 epics, including Sunfury Bow |
| 04:02.13 | Cairenn | blah, my 2nd top team lost, someone give me some good news |
| 04:02.21 | Legorol | awwww |
| 04:02.27 | Legorol | Cairenn: team in what? sport? |
| 04:02.32 | Cairenn | hockey |
| 04:02.39 | Legorol | ice or grass? |
| 04:02.53 | Cairenn | only my second choice team though, so not really that broken up over it |
| 04:03.09 | Cairenn | Legorol: It's February .... in Canada .... what do you think? |
| 04:03.14 | Cairenn | :p |
| 04:03.55 | Legorol | oh, that means spring is starting! must be grass |
| 04:04.03 | Cairenn | lol |
| 04:05.50 | sysrage | people actually pay attention to field hockey? |
| 04:09.12 | biglulz | wow |
| 04:09.56 | sysrage | gnarfoz: ty. exactly what i was looking for |
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| 04:22.10 | Legorol | sysrage: field hockey as you called it, or simply "hockey" (as the word originally originated) is very popular in UK |
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| 04:28.07 | Shirik|Ecole | Cidan: ping |
| 04:28.13 | Shirik|Ecole | or any other linux guru I guess |
| 04:28.20 | Shirik|Ecole | How do I turn on core dumps for crashing programs? |
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| 04:32.54 | kergoth | Shirik|Ecole: use ulimit |
| 04:33.00 | Shirik|Ecole | ulimit -c 2000 yeah? |
| 04:33.10 | Shirik|Ecole | that's it? |
| 04:33.12 | kergoth | assuming thats the max core dump size you want, yeah |
| 04:33.18 | Shirik|Ecole | yeah it's tiny :P |
| 04:33.19 | kergoth | iirc thats all you need |
| 04:33.34 | Shirik|Ecole | <3 |
| 04:33.40 | kergoth | dumps are so nice |
| 04:33.55 | kergoth | last week i discovered the joy of kernel crash dumps, the entire contents of ram at the time of the system crash = love |
| 04:34.01 | kergoth | can view a backtrace of every process that was running |
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| 04:37.48 | Nemico | Would anybody here be kind enough to enlighten me how i would make GridAlert trigger on focus target aggro instead of the normal target? |
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| 04:38.50 | oreth | hey guys |
| 04:40.20 | Cairenn | hi |
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| 04:45.26 | Shirik|Ecole | BBISAB |
| 04:45.29 | Shirik|Ecole | er, caps |
| 04:45.31 | Shirik|Ecole | and misspelling |
| 04:45.33 | Shirik|Ecole | and, yeah, bye |
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| 05:22.15 | Shirik | so I got a roomba.... that thing is amazing |
| 05:22.39 | Shirik | I wish my bot performed that well :( |
| 05:23.27 | batrick | :( |
| 05:23.38 | Shirik | it's ok, we're getting along well :D |
| 05:23.50 | oreth | roomba? |
| 05:23.56 | oreth | the little dinky room vaccuum? |
| 05:24.07 | Guillotine | Shirik: bad botter |
| 05:24.11 | Guillotine | bad |
| 05:24.18 | Guillotine | no cake for you |
| 05:24.27 | Shirik | the cake was a lie anyway |
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| 05:24.50 | Shirik | the roomba is very pissed off right now though |
| 05:25.03 | Shirik | I closed the door to my bathroom, and it detects the dirt from the bathroom or something |
| 05:25.10 | Shirik | because it keeps going near that door and wanting to go there |
| 05:25.15 | Shirik | but it can't get in obviously |
| 05:25.24 | Shirik | so it puts on the little "dirt" light, tries for a bit, then goes away |
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| 05:25.35 | Shirik | then it comes back a little later |
| 05:25.36 | Shirik | tries again |
| 05:25.36 | Shirik | lol |
| 05:26.35 | Wobin | is it actually a vaccuum? |
| 05:26.40 | Wobin | or one of those carpet rollers? |
| 05:26.50 | Shirik | what's a carpet roller? |
| 05:27.23 | oreth | does it have suction.. or just brush stuff quickly |
| 05:27.24 | Wobin | basically a thing with a brush that sort of scoops dirt and stuff into the recepticle |
| 05:27.34 | Shirik | wtf it's back at the bathroom door >< |
| 05:27.42 | Wobin | It clearly needs to go |
| 05:27.45 | Wobin | geez man |
| 05:27.45 | Shirik | no it's a vacuum, you can hear it |
| 05:27.49 | Wobin | when you gotta go, you gotta go |
| 05:27.58 | Wobin | cruel and unusual punishment =( |
| 05:28.00 | oreth | shirik: if I do that to my cats, they poop on the carpet |
| 05:28.02 | oreth | you should let it in |
| 05:28.20 | batrick | clearly it jsut means that the bot has awesome heuristics |
| 05:28.27 | batrick | because we all know shirik keeps a filthy bathroom |
| 05:28.38 | Shirik | but yeah I'm really impressed, it finds everything; where the sofa is and how it can get under it, etc. |
| 05:28.45 | oreth | condoms are not meant to be used as wall crawlers |
| 05:28.45 | Wobin | most people sweep the dust under the rug, Shirik sweeps it behind the toilet |
| 05:29.00 | oreth | just... FYI |
| 05:31.10 | Shirik | hm, it found the kitchen |
| 05:31.13 | Shirik | this should be interesting |
| 05:31.50 | Esine | Shirik, what are you talking about what "it"? |
| 05:32.01 | Shirik | (00:22:08) (@Shirik) so I got a roomba.... that thing is amazing |
| 05:32.06 | Esine | ah |
| 05:32.18 | oreth | shirik: you need to find a way to get logs from it |
| 05:32.21 | oreth | "found dirt" |
| 05:32.24 | oreth | "found cheeto" |
| 05:32.26 | Shirik | hm, it seems to have trapped itself against the wall and a kitchen table |
| 05:32.28 | oreth | "found dirty cheeto" |
| 05:32.29 | Shirik | see if it finds its way out now |
| 05:32.33 | oreth | "found crusty sock" |
| 05:32.52 | Shirik | hm, took a little time, but it did. Impressive. |
| 05:32.52 | oreth | "can roomba's get STDs?" |
| 05:32.56 | Shirik | Yes I need to find ways to get logs from it |
| 05:33.05 | Shirik | ~lart oreth |
| 05:33.05 | purl | slaps a compatible dib on oreth's head |
| 05:33.46 | batrick | sounds cool |
| 05:34.21 | Shirik | I read the documentation on how it works, it is an incredibly simple system |
| 05:34.30 | Shirik | I'm just amazed at how such simple algorithms can produce such good results |
| 05:34.35 | oreth | if i didn't just have random shit all over my house |
| 05:34.36 | oreth | i'd buy one |
| 05:34.42 | oreth | if only to freak the cats out |
| 05:42.13 | Shirik | rofl |
| 05:46.24 | Guillotine | you know what isn't a great thing to do while trying to actually play WoW? |
| 05:46.27 | Guillotine | rendering fluid motion |
| 05:47.09 | Shirik | ... |
| 05:47.32 | Guillotine | blender is fun, but doesn't play too well with WoW when doing complicated renders :( |
| 05:48.38 | Esine | Guillotine, get a quad core please ;) |
| 05:48.47 | Esine | Gnarfoz, also I didn't know blender can do physics |
| 05:48.51 | Esine | Guillotine* |
| 05:48.57 | Esine | are you using some other software with it? |
| 05:51.34 | Esine | btw Guillotine is your friend always this busy? I'd have some ideas for the project but I haven't been able to contact him in 12 hours now.. |
| 05:51.59 | Guillotine | newer versions of Blender have a whole physics engine :D Its awesome |
| 05:52.04 | Esine | ah |
| 05:54.43 | Tem | Blender is a serious pain |
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| 05:55.17 | Esine | for beginners yes.. it's so different from other 3d packages :\ |
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| 05:55.49 | Guillotine | it ended up crashing my computer :( |
| 05:55.57 | Esine | uhh |
| 05:56.45 | Guillotine | I can't seem to get fluid motion within non cubular domains though :( |
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| 06:09.34 | Shirik | rofl |
| 06:09.38 | Shirik | the roomba reached my front door |
| 06:09.43 | Shirik | and the dirt light has been on ever since |
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| 07:11.00 | JunkHead-Work | Anyone around? |
| 07:12.17 | Esine | hi |
| 07:12.24 | JunkHead-Work | Hello. |
| 07:12.32 | JunkHead-Work | I haev a question about backing up addons. |
| 07:12.51 | JunkHead-Work | Nm, someone just answered.:P |
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| 07:30.30 | art3mis | whats the /script to canel the bind on loot window? |
| 07:32.16 | Esamynn | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:32.35 | art3mis | laugh |
| 07:32.55 | art3mis | shuld i run /timer 1 1 in my mirc window too? |
| 07:33.03 | art3mis | or alt-f4 to switch windows? |
| 07:36.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | do /beep 9999 |
| 07:36.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | it helps. |
| 07:36.31 | Guillotine | lol |
| 07:36.59 | Guillotine | Esamynn: I got a warning for telling people to do that in trade chat a while ago :( |
| 07:37.08 | Esamynn | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:37.23 | Tem | oh lol |
| 07:37.28 | Guillotine | though I made it slightly more tricky |
| 07:38.11 | Guillotine | e.g. /script while "BoPWindowIsOpen" do end |
| 07:38.21 | Guillotine | strings being true ftw |
| 07:38.36 | Esamynn | haha |
| 07:38.45 | Guillotine | though I don't think it was specifically for BoP windows. I forgot what it was :( |
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| 08:03.55 | art3mis | anyone logged ion atm? |
| 08:03.55 | art3mis | in |
| 08:03.55 | art3mis | i need a quick movement check |
| 08:04.15 | art3mis | need ya to run forward and then switch to a strafe |
| 08:04.26 | art3mis | and see if there's a pause/stop when you switch to a strafe |
| 08:06.17 | Mike-N-Go | Wow, did you hear of Curse's ToU? |
| 08:06.32 | JunkHead-Work | I saw thAT. |
| 08:06.36 | JunkHead-Work | oops |
| 08:16.24 | Tem | Guillotine, yup, works with anything |
| 08:16.35 | Tem | if it has words that sorta look right, people will believe anythin |
| 08:17.38 | Guillotine | Mike-N-Go: If you're talking about the WoWInsider post that spreads a hell of a lot of false information, yes, it was posted in here a bit ago :P |
| 08:18.45 | Mike-N-Go | Guillotine: KK |
| 08:19.40 | cladhaire | wowinsider is a bastion of responsible reporting! |
| 08:19.45 | Guillotine | troof |
| 08:19.50 | clad|rowing | so its -9ª |
| 08:19.51 | clad|rowing | =( |
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| 08:23.34 | Guillotine | Mike-N-Go: like how incgamers has no ToU or privacy policy, but has a 'good track record in the past'. Or how the saying that Curse reserves the right to distribute files means it has the right to sell the AddOns rather than the right to host the files -- which is the point of the site. Or how the right to modify files means Curse will modify your files without your permission rather than letting Curse compress the file for s |
| 08:24.28 | Mike-N-Go | Guillotine: I lost track of what you are trying to convince me of. |
| 08:24.44 | Guillotine | heh |
| 08:25.17 | Guillotine | my point is that the author of that post gave malicious reasons for nearly all required parts of the ToU |
| 08:28.37 | Cairenn | Guillotine: the previous ToU /did/ give Curse the right to sell the mods |
| 08:29.21 | Cairenn | I'm glad Curse fixed it |
| 08:29.25 | Guillotine | yah, but that had already been changed when the post was made |
| 08:29.30 | clad|rowing | what bothered me about that, it that text was added within the past nine months or so, and no one seems to know it was added. Hopefully that sort of breakdown can be rectified |
| 08:29.43 | clad|rowing | (that text being the sell stuff, in particular) |
| 08:30.28 | Cairenn | and how much it allowed users to do - modify, redistribute, create derivatives |
| 08:30.36 | Cairenn | that stuff was ugly to have in there |
| 08:31.24 | clad|rowing | someone wanna go bike to the river for me? |
| 08:31.41 | Cairenn | clad|rowing: sure, send me the plane ticket |
| 08:31.46 | clad|rowing | k k |
| 08:31.50 | clad|rowing | you have to be there in 29 minutes |
| 08:31.51 | clad|rowing | can you make it? |
| 08:32.06 | Cairenn | they got rid of the concord :( |
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| 08:52.38 | Guillotine | awesome, it works |
| 08:52.44 | Guillotine | check out this 3d render I made: http://videos.curse.com/details/1168/ |
| 08:53.01 | Guillotine | The particle physics part of Blender is awesome |
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| 09:13.16 | batrick | sweet wow's index.xml is broken |
| 09:30.52 | Dezzimal | Would it be possible to /gkick someone automatically mid bossfight if "Essence of desire's deaden was interrupted by $n" is seen in the combat log? |
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| 09:36.15 | widgertick | Yes |
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| 10:11.02 | Mike-N-Go | What is this I hear about BOE Nether Vortexes and Pirmals? |
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| 10:49.25 | Crysli | Hi Elkano. |
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| 11:03.42 | Lukian | Mike-N-Go, I think you mean BoU ;p |
| 11:07.58 | Lukian | Although I'm sure someone could accommodate your desire to 'equip' a Nether |
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| 13:03.28 | Tem | You can be anything! |
| 13:03.31 | Tem | Just take a look |
| 13:03.33 | Tem | in a book! |
| 13:04.30 | zenzelezz | I know this one, but the name eludes me... |
| 13:04.58 | Tem | Reading Rainbow |
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| 13:08.04 | wereHamster | soufron, you wan't to be kicked, don't you.. |
| 13:11.31 | soufron | wereHamster, actually no |
| 13:11.34 | soufron | wereHamster, I am sorry ;-) |
| 13:11.44 | soufron | wereHamster, I forgot that I was also on this channel... |
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| 13:12.36 | wereHamster | so you're spamming these messages to all channels you're in? that doesn't make you look any better ;) |
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| 13:58.59 | Crysli | Ugh. One of our teachers quit and because of that we have recieved an entirely new schedule D: |
| 14:00.34 | Lopeppeppy | Un fun |
| 14:00.47 | Crysli | Very, |
| 14:01.00 | Crysli | Especially because it interferes with my after-school job. |
| 14:01.45 | Crysli | "Hey, you get to sleep till eight TWO days instead of one! Nevermind the fact that you'll have less spare time that's actually usable" |
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| 14:12.49 | zenzelezz | in 12th grade my class was supposed to have a lesson in the 8th hour (whatever you call that in foreign school systems), but my teacher hated that so we just got some small homework instead |
| 14:13.00 | Crysli | D: |
| 14:13.25 | Crysli | Our teachers assume that we'll get ourselves killed if we go home ten minutes early. |
| 14:13.38 | zenzelezz | but my class back in 8th-10th grade must have been bad... two of my female teachers quit to become flight attendents, two others took breaks because they got pregnant |
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| 14:21.52 | Crysli | Now that I have a basic understanding of how WoW addons are coded, what should I do? Make a really basic addon or just read other addons' code? |
| 14:22.03 | Crysli | Or some third alternative |
| 14:22.26 | zenzelezz | this might have been linked before, but since it's awesome I'll link it anyway: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4665317893&sid=1 |
| 14:23.01 | zenzelezz | Crysli: up to you really. If there is some sort of addon you would like that either doesn't exist or exists but you don't like in the current form, you could try to make one on your own |
| 14:23.53 | Crysli | And otherwise I should just have a look at how some addons are made? |
| 14:24.31 | zenzelezz | like I said, it's up to you and what you want to do. Some people learn best in one way, others in a different way. Do what feels right for you |
| 14:25.12 | Crysli | That's sort of my problem :D |
| 14:25.21 | Crysli | Idunno what seems better. |
| 14:25.33 | zenzelezz | then just try things :-p |
| 14:25.48 | zenzelezz | despite what many would like to tell you, there is no right or wrong way |
| 14:26.46 | Crysli | Alright. So, there aren't really any addons I need. What is really basic to learn from(I'm guessing it's stuff that doesn't have a GUI) |
| 14:26.48 | Crysli | ? |
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| 14:38.15 | Crysli|nap | Going to take a nap for a while. I'm trashed. |
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| 15:11.12 | sag_ich_nicht | so cladhaire how is that new version of perfectraid going |
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| 15:15.18 | |pez| | Oh man, better trust in the inlaws to make me feel incompetent of housework. |
| 15:15.35 | zenzelezz | :-o |
| 15:15.53 | cheesepls | hey all |
| 15:15.57 | zenzelezz | hi |
| 15:16.19 | cheesepls | are there any wow addons that are usefull to newbs like me :) |
| 15:16.25 | |pez| | the mom and dad "inlaws" are visiting, I'm eating breakfast. And the motherinlaw started to do the damned dishes. |
| 15:16.40 | nevcairiel | heh |
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| 15:17.01 | cheesepls | heh showing you up |
| 15:17.11 | cheesepls | guests doin the dishes tut tut |
| 15:17.31 | |pez| | I'm been sick for like a week, and haven't bothered doing anything I haven't *had* to |
| 15:18.22 | cheesepls | bah dont worry bout it |
| 15:18.58 | cheesepls | all mother inlaws think there childs partners are inadequate........... |
| 15:19.11 | cheesepls | its genetic or summat |
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| 15:32.40 | zenzelezz | what is it about lowbie rogues and the Red Defias Mask? |
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| 15:48.47 | Fin | it's the first head you get? |
| 15:48.53 | Fin | plus it looks pretty cool |
| 15:49.14 | Fin | better than every single fucking "hood" priests have inflicted on them |
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| 15:53.40 | zenzelezz | Fin: it looks cool enough, but it has 0 stats o_O |
| 15:54.24 | nevcairiel | better then nothing tbh |
| 15:54.33 | nevcairiel | there are not much head pieces in that range |
| 15:55.56 | zenzelezz | seems you're right, been too long since I was low-level |
| 15:56.06 | zenzelezz | thought it was only shoulders that didn't come at first |
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| 16:11.06 | Weye1 | Hey guys and gals... I cant seem to find a chat event dumper thing that supports 2.4. the one in DevTools is nice but supports only up to 9 args. Does one exists for more than 9 args? |
| 16:12.42 | Weye1 | Funny question since i know there is... I just really dont want to make my own "makeshift" one for the billionth time |
| 16:13.38 | nevcairiel | i thought iriel wanted to fix DevTools |
| 16:14.58 | Cide | Weye1: it's a fairly simple fix |
| 16:15.22 | Weye1 | Ohright, i'll have a look at it then |
| 16:19.26 | Weye1 | Indeed it was a simple fix :P thanks for the encouragement Cide |
| 16:19.41 | Weye1 | I generally dont want to touch something that somebody else has named "tool" |
| 16:19.59 | Cide | nor are you allowed to, really :P |
| 16:20.04 | Weye1 | hehe |
| 16:21.22 | zenzelezz | it's always a good idea to not touch other people's tool |
| 16:21.28 | Cidan | ugghhghghghg |
| 16:21.32 | Cidan | now I have a cold |
| 16:21.33 | Cidan | wtf |
| 16:22.19 | Cidan | Shirik: woo |
| 16:22.22 | Cidan | Shirik: WOOO |
| 16:24.52 | cladhaire | sag_ich_nicht: what do you mean? |
| 16:25.28 | sag_ich_nicht | wait |
| 16:25.39 | sag_ich_nicht | k |
| 16:25.44 | sag_ich_nicht | cladhaire: i mean any ETA? :Ü |
| 16:25.46 | sag_ich_nicht | *:P |
| 16:27.24 | cladhaire | well what are you looking for? |
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| 16:29.04 | sag_ich_nicht | ...nevermind. |
| 16:29.13 | cladhaire | lol |
| 16:29.15 | cladhaire | i'm asking what changes you want |
| 16:29.16 | cladhaire | trunk works |
| 16:29.19 | cladhaire | just fine |
| 16:30.12 | |pez| | feh, my bf's mom and dad come here and make me feel miserable about how the appartment is, and complain about how it's warm here. :P |
| 16:30.28 | Cide | who the fuck doesn't want it warm for starters? |
| 16:30.47 | |pez| | Cide: my boyfriends mom and dad, obviously ;P |
| 16:30.58 | |pez| | I freeze like heck whenever I'm at their place. |
| 16:31.14 | nevcairiel | my parrents always complain that its way too hot here |
| 16:31.18 | nevcairiel | but i dont care! |
| 16:31.24 | |pez| | And they never put up the heat for me, so why should I put down the head if I'm warn and nice and comfy |
| 16:31.47 | Fin | zenzelezz: it's got armour on it, no? :) |
| 16:32.04 | kergoth | |pez|: where they from? |
| 16:32.09 | zenzelezz | Fin: no |
| 16:32.11 | sag_ich_nicht | [17:29] <@cladhaire> i'm asking what changes you want <--the ones i(where i != me) want are posted on google code already :P |
| 16:32.17 | Fin | oh, huh |
| 16:32.37 | cladhaire | sag_ich_nicht: it won't be released until i[ve fixed the bugs I have outstanding, and convert the config UI |
| 16:32.41 | cladhaire | finished converting, rather |
| 16:32.47 | zenzelezz | Fin: the only thing it has is a model, but as nev pointed out, there really are very few head items at low level |
| 16:32.49 | Fin | but hey who doesn't want to look cool :) |
| 16:33.35 | Fin | ah you know what, I was thinking of the azure head that you can make at a pretty low level in tailoring - still way above the red bandit's mask tho |
| 16:33.47 | Fin | level 5 or something, isn't it? |
| 16:33.58 | |pez| | kergoth: Norway? ;P |
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| 16:34.03 | kergoth | ahh |
| 16:34.03 | zenzelezz | 15 I think |
| 16:34.20 | |pez| | I'm from Norway too damnit, and I don't like it being cold in MY appartment. |
| 16:34.54 | Fin | kergoth: any chance you could add an option to LootAlert to show the information in a chat frame? |
| 16:35.01 | kergoth | sure |
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| 16:35.16 | Fin | ac^Wgreat |
| 16:36.27 | sag_ich_nicht | cladhaire :) |
| 16:38.18 | Shirik | "Checking dynamic linking consistency..." |
| 16:38.23 | Shirik | that sounds so complicated it's awesome |
| 16:38.28 | Fin | I would quite like to see the extra information that LootAlert provides (I've got a nervous tick where I open my bags and check stack sizes every 15 seconds...) but I don't find the scrolly-type notices a good way to ingest information personally :) good for alerts, but not something I want to refer to |
| 16:38.29 | Cide | yep |
| 16:38.37 | Cidan | Shirik: LOLOL |
| 16:38.45 | Shirik | hai Cidan |
| 16:38.46 | Shirik | go to sleep |
| 16:38.53 | Cidan | Shirik: No fever now, just a cold |
| 16:39.02 | Shirik | this is why you should go to sleep |
| 16:39.15 | Cidan | No, must coade. COADE |
| 16:39.29 | Shirik | all.... 2? |
| 16:39.36 | Cidan | Getting so close to beta release, imo. |
| 16:40.59 | Fin | Shirik: that's far more than I need to get confused |
| 16:41.14 | Cidan | Cide: How long have you had your nick? Mine is pretty new |
| 16:41.24 | Cide | like... a few years |
| 16:41.26 | Cidan | Cide: I've only had this nick since FFXI |
| 16:41.26 | Cide | maybe 4? |
| 16:41.29 | Cidan | so about the same |
| 16:41.31 | Fin | fight! |
| 16:41.41 | Cide | maybe more, I'm not sure |
| 16:41.48 | Cide | I had it before wow was released anyway |
| 16:41.53 | Cide | by a year or two |
| 16:42.25 | Fin | oh, oh that was weak |
| 16:43.02 | sag_ich_nicht | so Cidan Shirik how much of an impact has 2.4 on conspiracy? :P |
| 16:43.12 | Shirik | none, actually |
| 16:43.25 | Shirik | I had stopped coding the one part that I anticipated would have a problem, and nothing else has hit it |
| 16:43.52 | Shirik | afk shower |
| 16:44.17 | Fin | genocide... acide... exciding... swaying from cidan to cide... |
| 16:46.20 | sag_ich_nicht | GAH |
| 16:46.27 | sag_ich_nicht | outland down |
| 16:46.28 | sag_ich_nicht | -.- |
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| 17:00.46 | Crysli | My head hurts from learning how all this addon stuff works D= |
| 17:00.57 | Fin | there, there |
| 17:01.48 | Cide | "do you want to talk?" "no..." "good. 'there there' was really all I had" |
| 17:02.01 | Fin | I suggest finding some idiots to shout at, they probably deserve it anyway and it'll be good practise for later, aside (acide!) from making you feel better |
| 17:02.10 | Cide | a cookie if you get the reference |
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| 17:07.48 | sysrage | is there an ace addon that will auto-restock reagents? |
| 17:10.32 | Industrial | -ace |
| 17:10.36 | Industrial | *poke* |
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| 17:10.45 | sysrage | ? |
| 17:10.49 | Fin | FreeRefills Reagent Restocker |
| 17:10.51 | Fin | ++ |
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| 17:14.13 | Cairenn | morning Seerah |
| 17:14.24 | Seerah | morning, Cairenn :) |
| 17:16.11 | sysrage | weak. reagentfu doesn't do restocking |
| 17:16.31 | Fin | get BankStack or Restack |
| 17:17.02 | dylanm | Tekkub started writing something like that recently. |
| 17:17.58 | Crysli | Doesn't Restack just stack items automatically? |
| 17:18.04 | Fin | it can do |
| 17:18.20 | Fin | it can do it according to the number of free slots you have, or whether there's a change in your inventory, or manually |
| 17:18.29 | Fin | I use both |
| 17:18.33 | sysrage | not trying to restack, trying to restock |
| 17:18.44 | Fin | oh, hahah |
| 17:18.52 | sysrage | will try the reagent restocker one i suppose |
| 17:18.57 | Fin | what a load of useless information just becuase I misread restocking |
| 17:19.04 | Crysli | I know 8D |
| 17:19.25 | Fin | it doesn't restoack items from bank -> inventory as far as I know, sysrage |
| 17:19.58 | Fin | or, it's limited to things it designates as "reagents" |
| 17:20.04 | Fin | I can't remember why I didn't end up using it |
| 17:20.12 | sysrage | comments seem to say it'll do both |
| 17:20.22 | sysrage | err description |
| 17:21.07 | sysrage | oh maybe your freerefils one isn't the same one i'm seeing on wowi |
| 17:21.11 | Fin | I did try it out, maybe I should again |
| 17:21.30 | Fin | FreeRefills is still buggy unfortunately, despite the fixes vhaarr made a little while back |
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| 17:21.45 | sysrage | cheeken has posted one to wowi |
| 17:22.00 | Fin | one what, sorry? |
| 17:22.07 | sysrage | reagent restocker mod |
| 17:22.14 | Fin | ah, right, yeah - that's the one I was talking about |
| 17:22.24 | Fin | it's called, Reagent Restocker... |
| 17:22.44 | Fin | I see, you were just telling me where I could find it again because I said I should try it again - thanks :) |
| 17:23.31 | Fin | v0.6: "The Good News: Reagent Restocker now has limited bank support. Enable the appropriate options and Shopping List items will be pulled from or deposited into your bank. Also a few other handy features were added, such as auto-population of the Selling List." |
| 17:23.35 | Fin | sounds promising |
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| 17:25.02 | sysrage | hmm it's saying incompatible and won't load |
| 17:26.35 | sysrage | awesome it's a bunch of 0 byte files |
| 17:27.05 | Crysli | Woo |
| 17:27.13 | sysrage | oh maybe WUU just messed up |
| 17:30.13 | sysrage | well it works.. not as fast as cyrolysis was but oh well |
| 17:30.22 | sysrage | least i don't have to keep stupid cryolysis installed anymore |
| 17:31.52 | sysrage | somebody needs to merge reagentfu with reagentrestocker |
| 17:33.07 | Corrodias | i don't need an addon that automatically buys reagents. what i need is one that reminds me, when i visit any vendor, that i'm low on reagents. |
| 17:33.24 | Fin | do you prefer to buy them yourself then? |
| 17:34.16 | Corrodias | that would be convenient, but it's not important -- a shift-click on the reagent will let me choose to buy a number of stacks and fill up my current stack |
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| 17:34.39 | Corrodias | my problem is that i never realize i'm low |
| 17:34.42 | Fin | BuyAll does that, sort of |
| 17:35.14 | Fin | if you click "Stack" to buy a stack of something, and already have half a stack in your inventory, it only adds the remaining needed to the total to be bought |
| 17:35.28 | Corrodias | that must be what i have |
| 17:35.37 | Corrodias | maybe it's BuyEmAll |
| 17:37.11 | Crysli | Anyone know how to change the texture of the PitBull Aura module? |
| 17:39.14 | Gngsk | only texture setting you can change is in the global settings section |
| 17:39.49 | Crysli | Yes, that's why I'm asking. |
| 17:40.16 | Crysli | I assume there's some texture that can be replaced. |
| 17:41.32 | Fin | and the global setting doesn't actually change anything for me, sadly :( |
| 17:43.39 | Seerah | Okay, I know I'm probably late to the conversation, but..... ReagentRestocker = win |
| 17:43.56 | Crysli | OK, so there's a texture in the Auras folder names "border" - brb, going to try replacing it. |
| 17:45.59 | Crysli | Hm, that doesn't seem to work. |
| 17:46.57 | Crysli | The texture shows in Config mode, but when there's an icon it seems to be above the texture. |
| 17:49.10 | Corrodias | well, Seerah, what i really need is something to tell me to restock them |
| 17:49.18 | Corrodias | the buying part isn't the hard part |
| 17:49.25 | Seerah | It will do it automagically for you |
| 17:49.45 | Corrodias | i usually have no reason to go over and click on the reagent vendor, so ones that just autobuy don't help me |
| 17:49.57 | Seerah | you want a warning? "warning! arcane powder getting low!" |
| 17:50.23 | Corrodias | something like that, yeah |
| 17:50.36 | Seerah | imo, you should be aware of how many reagents you keep, or at least keep enough in stock that you may not need to go that often |
| 17:50.55 | Seerah | I always keep 40 arcane powder and 10 of each portal rune |
| 17:51.07 | Corrodias | each portal rune? there are more than one? |
| 17:51.23 | Corrodias | anyway, i play a feral druid, so it's uncommon that i use Gift of the Wild or Rebirth |
| 17:51.25 | Seerah | before a raid, I go to the reagent vendor. why? because I know that I need to make sure I"m prepared for a raid |
| 17:51.43 | Corrodias | thus, it's very long between times that i run out, so i don't think of it |
| 17:51.45 | Seerah | rune of portals and rune of teleportation |
| 17:51.59 | Corrodias | huh, didn't realize |
| 17:52.11 | Seerah | do you have those spells on a bar? it tells you how many reagents you have on the button |
| 17:52.33 | Corrodias | rebirth i do, actually, but the other is on my "buffs" bar which is hidden most of the time |
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| 17:52.41 | Corrodias | and tends to run out sooner |
| 17:52.52 | Corrodias | i know a little more presence of mind will solve my problem |
| 17:52.59 | Seerah | or if you use an inventory management addon, keep a separate section for reagents, so you can see at a glance whenever you open the bag |
| 17:53.31 | Seerah | I forget the reagent for GotW, but how many do you keep in stock at once? |
| 17:53.54 | Corrodias | 20. like i said, i don't use it terribly often. |
| 17:54.36 | Corrodias | sometimes i'll hand them to a balance or restoration druid, though |
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| 17:54.49 | Seerah | I don't know of anything that warns you to restock. |
| 17:55.11 | Seerah | But what you could do, if you have the room, is to keep extras in your bank and use ReagentRestocker to pull from the bank |
| 17:55.13 | Corrodias | i guess i just need to keep an eye on it |
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| 17:57.49 | Fin | Corrodias: if you're going to have one reagent on you, you might as well have a whole stack, unless money is *really* tight |
| 17:58.16 | Fin | why not just fill up that stack whenever you're at a vendor that sells them, automatically? |
| 17:58.19 | Seerah | 20 is a whole stack :) |
| 17:58.29 | Seerah | and he said he doesn't visit the vendor much |
| 17:58.30 | zenzelezz | Fin: that's what he said... he doesn't frequent those vendors |
| 17:58.32 | Seerah | <3 Fin :) |
| 17:59.13 | Fin | but, if it's so infrequently that you need to fill the stack, I mean, personally I'd probably visit one just for selling junk in the meantime :) but hey |
| 17:59.41 | Fin | :) |
| 17:59.49 | Fin | :-~ |
| 18:00.13 | Seerah | yep. RR auto-sells grays |
| 18:00.28 | Fin | is it semi-retarded like most of the other autosellers? |
| 18:00.41 | Fin | and man, there's a lot of them |
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| 18:01.10 | Fin | there seems to be a new VendorJunk or AutoDumpGreys-type addon every week |
| 18:02.13 | Seerah | <3 RR |
| 18:02.18 | Fin | I'm tired and a little tipsy and my computer doesn't work and I want to do something fun but I can't think of anything I can do |
| 18:02.25 | Seerah | only tipsy? |
| 18:02.33 | Fin | only tipsy |
| 18:02.52 | Fin | I could get proprely drunk, but that's the *opposite* of doing something |
| 18:02.56 | Fin | it's more undoing something I guess |
| 18:03.06 | Fin | byee! |
| 18:03.22 | Seerah | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:03.31 | Seerah | changing to away status puts your nick back :P |
| 18:04.03 | Cairenn | later Seerah |
| 18:04.39 | Fin | seeyah seerah |
| 18:06.50 | Industrial | sigh |
| 18:06.57 | Industrial | teldrassil -> tanaris flight |
| 18:13.44 | Crysli | Hate it. |
| 18:13.57 | zenzelezz | anyone recall how much reputation Archimonde gives? |
| 18:21.01 | *** join/#wowi-lounge [EoE]SniperFodde (n=chatzill@75-171-160-42.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 18:21.57 | Olison | .c |
| 18:22.01 | [EoE]SniperFodde | ? |
| 18:22.05 | Olison | .status |
| 18:22.10 | [EoE]SniperFodde | ah, nvm |
| 18:22.23 | Olison | .wowtools start |
| 18:22.46 | Fin | no... couldn't be... |
| 18:23.30 | [EoE]SniperFodde | okay, now that registration is setup and out of the way... |
| 18:24.35 | [EoE]SniperFodde | Anyone free atm for a question? |
| 18:24.57 | |pez| | you're better off just asking the question itself. |
| 18:25.16 | [EoE]SniperFodde | hehe k |
| 18:25.49 | [EoE]SniperFodde | i'm thinking about creating an addon for "Black listing" players who we've basicly banned from the guild. |
| 18:26.06 | *** part/#wowi-lounge MrUseful (i=fnbot@armory.bot.nu) |
| 18:26.09 | [EoE]SniperFodde | kind of had issues where there names don't float around to all the officers, so they invite them back into the guild |
| 18:26.49 | [EoE]SniperFodde | Anyways... I was wondering... is it possible to hook into the add member function, and have it check the name against a list of players, before sending the invite command? |
| 18:27.22 | [EoE]SniperFodde | grrr, just realized my nick got cut off |
| 18:27.44 | |pez| | that's becasuse you have a horribly annoying long nick XD |
| 18:27.50 | [EoE]SniperFodde | yes i know =P |
| 18:27.52 | |pez| | But it should be possible, what you want. |
| 18:27.58 | |pez| | without me really knowing how. :P |
| 18:28.03 | [EoE]SniperFodde | hehe |
| 18:28.11 | [EoE]SniperFodde | Alright. Always good to know |
| 18:28.24 | [EoE]SniperFodde | Just thought I'd ask around before embarking upon this task |
| 18:31.58 | [EoE]SniperFodde | Think it'd be worthwhile using the ace chat throttle for sending tables on black listed players? |
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| 18:39.02 | Olison | .wowtools start |
| 18:39.02 | MrUseful | Wowtools active for channel #wowi-lounge (ChanID 413). Information for channelops and users is available under http://fireglow.de/wowbot.html |
| 18:39.05 | Olison | spam! :D |
| 18:39.37 | [EoE]SniperFodde | lol |
| 18:39.45 | Cide | hi |
| 18:39.48 | Cide | your name is way too long |
| 18:39.59 | nevcairiel | !status |
| 18:40.08 | nevcairiel | MrUseful us broken |
| 18:40.09 | Cide | can you at least remove [EoE]? I don't care what guild or whatever you're in |
| 18:40.12 | Olison | commands start with . here :< |
| 18:40.17 | nevcairiel | .status |
| 18:40.19 | Olison | ThraeBot: has ! |
| 18:40.23 | zenzelezz | why do we have yet another bot? |
| 18:40.28 | Cide | yeah |
| 18:40.29 | Cide | no shit |
| 18:40.31 | Olison | because :P |
| 18:40.37 | Olison | you don't have to use it |
| 18:40.40 | zenzelezz | it's getting ridiculous |
| 18:40.56 | Olison | you don't have to use any of them, so why even bother |
| 18:41.05 | Olison | it's not like ircbots are gonna steal your cookies |
| 18:41.15 | zenzelezz | I've been saying the same for several of the other bots |
| 18:41.24 | Olison | ah ok |
| 18:41.27 | Olison | old habits then |
| 18:43.00 | Fisker- | .HLAP |
| 18:43.12 | Olison | not quite :< |
| 18:44.37 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 18:45.04 | [EoE]SniperFodde | yea, Will my nickname still be registered to the server? |
| 18:45.20 | Cide | you can link several nicknames to the same auth name |
| 18:45.20 | [EoE]SniperFodde | I don't use irc much.. and my clan is kind of useless in this channel =P |
| 18:45.21 | zenzelezz | you can link nicks |
| 18:45.46 | [EoE]SniperFodde | what's the command? /ns auth <name>? |
| 18:46.15 | zenzelezz | /ns help link |
| 18:46.19 | [EoE]SniperFodde | thanks |
| 18:46.34 | zenzelezz | you need to switch to the other nick you want before doing the actual /ns link |
| 18:47.47 | Shirik | heh |
| 18:47.57 | Persephonea | gah |
| 18:48.01 | Shirik | only 16 |
| 18:48.13 | Persephonea | no such nick/channel |
| 18:48.24 | Shirik | you have to /nick to the new nick you want |
| 18:48.29 | Shirik | then /ns link <oldnick> |
| 18:48.36 | Persephonea | ah, k |
| 18:48.37 | Shirik | ero |
| 18:48.48 | Shirik | it's /ns link <oldnick> <password> I believe |
| 18:49.06 | zenzelezz | yes, like the /ns help link said :-p |
| 18:49.23 | Persephonea | 0_o I'm so confused lol |
| 18:49.39 | zenzelezz | :) |
| 18:49.50 | Persephonea | do I have to register pers with the server first before linking? |
| 18:49.57 | zenzelezz | no |
| 18:50.02 | zenzelezz | you don't register |
| 18:50.08 | zenzelezz | you add this nick to your previous one |
| 18:50.24 | zenzelezz | so it'd be something like /ns link [EoE]SniperFodde YourPassword |
| 18:50.40 | Persephonea | tried that. Keeps saying I need to register the nick with the server first |
| 18:50.46 | zenzelezz | hm |
| 18:50.49 | zenzelezz | maybe I'm wrong |
| 18:52.05 | Legorol | have you correctly Identified on [EoE]SniperFodde? |
| 18:52.12 | Legorol | Is [EoE]SniperFodde registered? |
| 18:52.19 | [EoE]SniperFodde | yes |
| 18:52.35 | Cairenn | btw, I may disappear unexpectedly - we've got a storm just starting, going to get 3-6 hrs of freezing rain |
| 18:52.41 | Shirik | yey |
| 18:52.43 | Shirik | freezing rain |
| 18:52.52 | [EoE]SniperFodde | sounds fun |
| 18:53.24 | Cairenn | *grin* |
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| 18:55.02 | Persephonea | there |
| 18:55.11 | Cide | thanks |
| 18:55.13 | Persephonea | had to register pers with the NS to link the names |
| 18:58.50 | Persephonea | mmm, has anyone ever coded using Eclipse before? |
| 18:59.30 | Shirik | Sadly, yes |
| 18:59.41 | Shirik | Now let me ask you a better question: Why would you WANT to use eclipse? |
| 18:59.54 | Persephonea | It's my editor of choice atm for Java |
| 19:00.00 | Shirik | Go with Netbeans imo |
| 19:00.18 | Shirik | I have used netbeans for 3 years now and loved it every second |
| 19:00.32 | Shirik | It's also Sun's recommended IDE |
| 19:00.36 | Persephonea | mmm, i'll look into it. Love alot of the features provided by eclipse. |
| 19:00.46 | Shirik | I can't think of a feature provided by Eclipse that's not in Netbeans :) |
| 19:00.54 | Shirik | And most of the features that are provided are provided better |
| 19:00.59 | Shirik | But did you have a question about Eclipse? |
| 19:01.09 | nevcairiel | mm |
| 19:01.13 | Persephonea | yea, I di |
| 19:01.15 | Persephonea | did* |
| 19:01.20 | nevcairiel | i wonder if they force us to use Eclipse in my java class |
| 19:01.24 | nevcairiel | i hope not =P |
| 19:01.32 | Persephonea | lol where are you taking class at? |
| 19:01.43 | Shirik | Our IT department makes us use eclipse |
| 19:01.46 | Industrial | any enhancement shams around? |
| 19:01.52 | Shirik | but I tell all my students that they need to go get netbeans for their computer |
| 19:01.58 | nevcairiel | Persephonea: university |
| 19:02.08 | Persephonea | Lol, That university is great |
| 19:02.18 | Industrial | acutally vim if I can |
| 19:02.33 | Persephonea | No, but I was wondering, Do I import the ace2 libraries as, well libraries into eclipse? |
| 19:03.01 | nevcairiel | why would you? |
| 19:03.18 | Shirik | wait |
| 19:03.20 | Shirik | what? |
| 19:03.35 | Persephonea | I haven't programmed in lua yet. |
| 19:03.43 | Cide | www.lua.org/pil |
| 19:03.44 | Shirik | Eclipse does Lua now? |
| 19:03.56 | Cide | and don't use ace2 for when you start programming in lua, for god's sake |
| 19:04.02 | Shirik | and yes, if you haven't yet learned Lua I do not recommend starting with Ace |
| 19:04.03 | Persephonea | so I guess my question is, Do I import the lua libraries in the class files? |
| 19:04.10 | Cide | and don't use ace2 for when you start programming in lua, for god's sake |
| 19:04.21 | Persephonea | and Eclipse doesn't do lua |
| 19:04.22 | Shirik | ~pat Cide |
| 19:04.22 | purl | ACTION pats Cide and says "Nicely Done!" |
| 19:04.30 | Shirik | Persephonea: Then I'm completely confused as to what you're trying to do |
| 19:04.35 | Persephonea | Lunar Eclipse is a plugin for Eclipse |
| 19:04.42 | Shirik | ok |
| 19:04.45 | Shirik | now what class files? |
| 19:04.53 | Persephonea | ie. Core.lua |
| 19:04.58 | Cide | and don't use ace2 for when you start programming in lua, for god's sake |
| 19:05.00 | Persephonea | myaddon.lua |
| 19:05.02 | Persephonea | etc etc etc |
| 19:05.05 | Persephonea | I won't lol |
| 19:05.06 | Shirik | [#] 14:02:18 [W From] <70:Immortalidee>: <Deadly Boss Mods> Immortalidee is busy. (Fighting against Wizard of Oz - HP unknown - 11/11 people alive) You will be informed after the fight. Whisper "status" to query the raid's status. |
| 19:05.12 | Shirik | myaddon.lua != class file :P |
| 19:05.17 | Cide | don't use libraries when you start programming in lua, for god's sake |
| 19:05.25 | Shirik | hm |
| 19:05.29 | Persephonea | lol okay, we get the point cide =P |
| 19:05.31 | Shirik | would be difficult to use Lua without BaseLib |
| 19:05.38 | Shirik | and string |
| 19:05.40 | Shirik | and table |
| 19:05.44 | Shirik | and math |
| 19:05.48 | Cide | that's different |
| 19:05.49 | Persephonea | math is important |
| 19:05.51 | Persephonea | so is string |
| 19:05.53 | Persephonea | lol |
| 19:06.10 | Cide | by libraries I mean libraries for wow development |
| 19:06.19 | art3mis | http://www.rlslog.net/rumours-nvidia-will-acquire-amd/ |
| 19:06.25 | Cide | the provided lua libraries allow you to do stuff that otherwise weren't possible at all |
| 19:06.53 | Cide | wow libraries simply simplify things, i.e. making you not learn shit you should know |
| 19:07.07 | Persephonea | true. |
| 19:07.15 | Cide | hence |
| 19:07.18 | Cide | don't use libraries when you start programming in lua, for god's sake |
| 19:07.35 | Persephonea | Aye. Just was looking at it for convieniance |
| 19:07.36 | Shirik | hey they were possible |
| 19:07.46 | Shirik | you just need to find the memory location of printf |
| 19:07.55 | Shirik | then crash the stack, push onto the stack the address of printf and your parameters |
| 19:07.56 | Shirik | done |
| 19:08.01 | Cide | good idea |
| 19:08.28 | Persephonea | printf, as in printfunction? |
| 19:08.36 | Cide | printf as in printf |
| 19:08.37 | Shirik | ever coded C? |
| 19:08.47 | Cide | formatted print, I believe |
| 19:08.52 | Shirik | I think that's what it means |
| 19:09.08 | Persephonea | nay. Remember, I program in java |
| 19:09.15 | Persephonea | so I dont' know what goes on under the hood |
| 19:09.16 | Shirik | I'm sorry |
| 19:09.17 | Persephonea | lol |
| 19:09.22 | Persephonea | indeed |
| 19:09.27 | Persephonea | but it got me into programming |
| 19:09.30 | Shirik | I'm a lab instructor for a Java class |
| 19:09.33 | Persephonea | now I just need to extend upon that learning |
| 19:09.33 | Shirik | I hate Java |
| 19:09.53 | Persephonea | Lua Eclipse - http://www.ideais.com.br/luaeclipse/ - Eclipse is a highly advanced and extensible editor and development tool. What it says on the wowwiki if ayone was curious. |
| 19:10.07 | Persephonea | I only looked into it becase it is the ide i'm most familiar with |
| 19:10.07 | Shirik | I recommend SciTE over that |
| 19:10.09 | Shirik | if you're in windows |
| 19:10.33 | Shirik | which it appears you are |
| 19:10.34 | Persephonea | Java is nice for some things. Like learning how to programm, beginners wise. |
| 19:11.02 | Shirik | I disagree |
| 19:11.06 | Shirik | this is the #1 reason I hate Java |
| 19:11.16 | Shirik | Because you learn how to program without actually knowing what's going on in the computer |
| 19:11.22 | Shirik | which is a horrible way to get a computer to do what you want to do |
| 19:11.35 | Cide | Shirik: that's true for all higher-level languages |
| 19:11.52 | Shirik | I won't deny Java is good for some things, but learning as a first language is not one of them. Learning OOP, maybe. |
| 19:11.59 | Cide | you could argue the same thing for C, even |
| 19:12.06 | Shirik | At least in C you have direct access to memory |
| 19:12.16 | Cide | true |
| 19:12.31 | Cide | but the point still stands :P there's always a level of abstraction |
| 19:12.44 | Persephonea | Meh, I don't happen to manage memory in java (which is going to bite me in the butt in lua), but it's nice to jump right into programming |
| 19:12.45 | Cide | but I don't like java so I won't argue :P |
| 19:12.58 | Persephonea | lol 0_o |
| 19:13.07 | Cide | you don't manage memory in lua either |
| 19:13.23 | Persephonea | mmm, but i can still execute Garbage collection commands? |
| 19:13.36 | Cide | yes... but there's usually no need |
| 19:13.59 | Legorol | Cide: how can one find out the slash commands for each CT module? |
| 19:14.00 | Persephonea | mmm... keyword usually |
| 19:14.06 | Shirik | If you execute GC commands, you'll probably break something |
| 19:14.08 | Shirik | don't do it |
| 19:14.08 | Legorol | for example for expense history, mail log etc. |
| 19:14.09 | Legorol | i dont see it in any descriptions or help texts |
| 19:14.09 | Cide | Legorol: there's only one, /ct |
| 19:14.12 | Cide | oh |
| 19:14.16 | Legorol | well, /eh works too |
| 19:14.17 | Cide | they aren't displayed anywhere |
| 19:14.20 | Legorol | but i stumbled on it by accident |
| 19:14.31 | Legorol | /eh for expense history |
| 19:14.37 | Cide | Legorol: well, EH hasn't been rewritten since 2.0 |
| 19:14.55 | Cide | but they aren't displayed anywhere |
| 19:14.59 | Legorol | ok, then how do i activate the mail log without going to a mailbox? |
| 19:15.04 | Cide | /maillog, I believe |
| 19:15.13 | Cide | but I think that's the only other slash command there is :P |
| 19:15.23 | Persephonea | WoWBench WoW API Emulator, should i use it? |
| 19:15.28 | Shirik | who made the command /eh |
| 19:15.32 | Cide | <-- |
| 19:15.40 | Shirik | You are hilarious |
| 19:15.52 | Cide | simply because it's impractical to go to the mail box to see the log sometimes |
| 19:15.55 | Cide | Shirik: I am |
| 19:15.56 | Shirik | Anyway, Persephonea, I've found that thing to be a lot more trouble than it's use |
| 19:16.03 | Shirik | s/use/worth/ |
| 19:16.12 | Shirik | It's only really useful for debugging problems that occur at logout |
| 19:16.20 | Shirik | and even then there are ways to work on those |
| 19:16.21 | Persephonea | ah. I'll /ignore it then |
| 19:18.10 | Legorol | Cide: /maillog doesn't work |
| 19:18.17 | Legorol | see? i do need a way to find out what's the command :) |
| 19:18.18 | Cide | /ctmaillog then? |
| 19:18.24 | Cide | the source works! |
| 19:18.27 | Legorol | oh wait nvm, i typod >.< |
| 19:18.31 | Legorol | sure, i can check the source.. |
| 19:18.33 | Cide | wtg, noobface |
| 19:18.33 | Legorol | but Joe User can't |
| 19:18.38 | Legorol | lol |
| 19:18.40 | Legorol | you are sooo right |
| 19:18.50 | Legorol | still, how am i supposed to kno |
| 19:18.52 | Legorol | *knw |
| 19:18.55 | Legorol | *know |
| 19:19.08 | Cide | you're absolutely right |
| 19:19.11 | Cide | it's bad design |
| 19:19.22 | Persephonea | Mmm. i think i'm just going to crack open an addon and look at it. |
| 19:19.24 | Cide | but I don't have time toa dd it |
| 19:19.31 | Cide | imo |
| 19:20.39 | Legorol | Cide: zomg doitnow, i demand featurezorz! now now! |
| 19:20.43 | Cide | meh |
| 19:20.57 | Cide | my mods generally employ good design :/ |
| 19:21.02 | Cide | I'll cut myself some slack this time |
| 19:21.10 | Cide | :P |
| 19:21.38 | Legorol | or i'll have to blackmail you! if you don't add a complete helpsystem in english, cantonese and japanese in 24 hours, including all slashcommands, i'm going to have to do what my greatgrandfather One-eyed Bob did during WWI |
| 19:21.51 | Persephonea | mm, so comments are done using -- in lua ? |
| 19:21.54 | Cide | oshi- |
| 19:21.58 | Cide | Persephonea: www.lua.org/pil |
| 19:22.01 | Cide | I won't link it again |
| 19:22.02 | Cide | actually |
| 19:22.03 | Cide | yes I will |
| 19:22.07 | Cide | every time you ask something like that, I will |
| 19:22.19 | Persephonea | mm, so comments are done using -- in lua ? |
| 19:22.20 | wereHamster | purl will link that for you :) |
| 19:22.21 | Shirik | anyone here in devNull that can invite? |
| 19:22.27 | Legorol | Persephonea: www.lua.org/pil |
| 19:22.30 | Persephonea | mm, so comments are done using -- in lua ? |
| 19:22.32 | Persephonea | lol |
| 19:22.35 | Legorol | Persephonea: www.lua.org/pil |
| 19:22.35 | Cide | honestly |
| 19:22.36 | Persephonea | i'm so being an ass |
| 19:22.38 | wereHamster | Persephonea: www.lua.org/pil |
| 19:22.41 | Cide | oh just wait |
| 19:22.43 | Crysli | Persephonea: |
| 19:22.43 | Legorol | yes, but in response, so am i |
| 19:22.47 | Cide | and you'll see how much of an ass *I* am |
| 19:22.57 | Persephonea | yes, Your still demostrating it =P |
| 19:22.58 | Shirik | I would not tempt Cide |
| 19:23.00 | Legorol | i'll let Cide have the privilege of head-ass |
| 19:23.00 | Industrial | Any enhancement shaman around? |
| 19:23.52 | Persephonea | coroutine = core routine? |
| 19:23.56 | Cide | Persephonea: dude |
| 19:23.57 | Cide | I'm serious |
| 19:24.00 | Cide | www.lua.org/pil |
| 19:24.01 | Cide | and stfu |
| 19:24.04 | Legorol | Industrial: omg, you are the first person i have seen in a million years to spell it right |
| 19:24.21 | Persephonea | I'm reading. It doesn't exactly have a dictionary with it does it? |
| 19:24.22 | Industrial | Legorol: how do they spell it? |
| 19:24.28 | Crysli | enchantment |
| 19:24.30 | Industrial | lol |
| 19:24.31 | Cide | Persephonea: www.answers.com/coroutine |
| 19:24.43 | Legorol | maybe it's better to link this: http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/ |
| 19:24.47 | wereHamster | Persephonea, start at the first chapter, then go to the second and so on, and read it all... |
| 19:24.49 | Legorol | it defines every term, and complete syntax |
| 19:25.04 | Legorol | it's a harder read than PiL, but it's guaranteed that every term is defined |
| 19:25.08 | Shirik | You should not try to know what a coroutine is before you know how to read comments |
| 19:25.30 | Legorol | btw, what is a coroutine? |
| 19:25.36 | *** kick/#wowi-lounge [Legorol!n=skullsho@conspiracy/developer/Shirik] by Shirik (bye) |
| 19:25.39 | Persephonea | I think legorol had the right idea... |
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| 19:25.46 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+v Legorol] by ChanServ |
| 19:25.48 | Cide | Legorol: stfu. |
| 19:25.48 | Legorol | oi! |
| 19:25.48 | Shirik | <3 |
| 19:25.50 | Legorol | i ducked |
| 19:25.54 | Shirik | Not low enough |
| 19:25.57 | Cide | we're pro at duckhunting |
| 19:25.59 | Legorol | not fair, your kick hsould've missed |
| 19:26.02 | Seerah | lol |
| 19:26.07 | Legorol | and i'm a gnome |
| 19:26.08 | Persephonea | Apparently not. |
| 19:26.13 | Legorol | have you ever managed to kick a gnome that ducks? |
| 19:26.28 | Shirik | apparently now I hvae |
| 19:26.45 | Legorol | but woot, that was my first kick from here, in nearly 3 years of idling here |
| 19:26.47 | Shirik | Who wants to be awesome and log onto devNull ScytheBlade1! |
| 19:27.45 | Shirik | the internet is not dark |
| 19:27.56 | Shirik | it is filled with far too many flashing "WINNER 1 MILLIONTH VIEWER" popups |
| 19:28.12 | Persephonea | unless you run your own server.... |
| 19:28.23 | |pez| | my server is superdark |
| 19:28.23 | Cide | art3mis: looks like you win the spelling bee award |
| 19:28.27 | Seerah | ~oplympian |
| 19:28.30 | art3mis | i gn0z! |
| 19:28.42 | art3mis | im awesome at speeling |
| 19:28.52 | art3mis | itz mah goodest ivent |
| 19:28.52 | Seerah | bots don't like me.... either that, or I'm too dumb to use them right :P |
| 19:28.54 | Persephonea | I was about to say and disconnect it from the internet... but that would defeat the purpose of a server... |
| 19:29.06 | art3mis | not at all |
| 19:29.07 | Cide | Seerah: probably not a recognized command :P |
| 19:29.11 | Cide | ~dict oplympian |
| 19:29.13 | art3mis | some of the best servers arent on the internet |
| 19:29.21 | Shirik | Persephonea: I can think of millions of servers that only run on localhost |
| 19:29.24 | Seerah | ty cide :) |
| 19:29.26 | Persephonea | mmm, Unless it's a web server. |
| 19:29.28 | Persephonea | =P |
| 19:29.29 | art3mis | although thats just what the award says |
| 19:29.32 | Shirik | X Server is the best example |
| 19:29.41 | art3mis | and it is from the special olympics |
| 19:30.24 | art3mis | sweet jesus |
| 19:30.26 | Crysli | http://youtube.com/watch?v=3IFUNIa2NU8 |
| 19:30.32 | art3mis | my servers AH pricing is messed |
| 19:30.40 | Crysli | I'm so going to hell now |
| 19:31.00 | art3mis | i just bought 20xstrange dust for 1.25 and relisted it at 2.47 and it sold in about 15 mins |
| 19:31.26 | Seerah | fast money at least :P |
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| 19:31.43 | art3mis | yeah |
| 19:31.48 | art3mis | its kinna spookey though |
| 19:32.13 | art3mis | heh so far my fav auctioneer thing is buying stuff then relisting for les than the purchase/market price |
| 19:32.28 | Shirik | ?? |
| 19:32.37 | art3mis | Found primal fire 20g! |
| 19:32.52 | art3mis | look at the hover over "suggested resell for your 1 primal 18.75 |
| 19:32.59 | Persephonea | lol |
| 19:33.00 | |pez| | I really need to find something usefull for my new domain. :P |
| 19:33.09 | art3mis | i read useful as aweful |
| 19:33.10 | art3mis | ;P |
| 19:33.17 | Seerah | Primal fire go for that much on your server??? |
| 19:33.29 | art3mis | |pez|: RatemyAss ;) |
| 19:33.33 | Crysli | |pez| Know how you feel. |
| 19:33.35 | art3mis | yeah |
| 19:33.35 | zenzelezz | |pez|: there's one obvious purpose that sticks out from the name |
| 19:33.36 | |pez| | art3mis :D |
| 19:33.39 | zenzelezz | and you know it'd be popular |
| 19:33.47 | art3mis | i made a killing with the rapid spawns a little bit back, farmed up 3 stacks |
| 19:33.50 | |pez| | buttpictureposting! |
| 19:33.58 | art3mis | waited a while and now they're back to the 20's |
| 19:34.21 | |pez| | art3mis: I do like your idea though XD |
| 19:34.22 | Persephonea | mmmm, interesting about values, types, and vars... |
| 19:34.25 | |pez| | >__> |
| 19:34.41 | art3mis | i still need to find something fun to do with gothi.ca |
| 19:35.16 | |pez| | put up a awesome picture of something gotlike? :P |
| 19:35.19 | |pez| | goth* |
| 19:35.32 | Crysli | Make a site that's VampireFreaks*1 billion |
| 19:35.33 | art3mis | goth dating site ;P |
| 19:35.48 | |pez| | art3mis: oohoho |
| 19:35.50 | |pez| | goodplan XD |
| 19:35.53 | Crysli | Yeah. |
| 19:36.01 | Crysli | That actually sounds awesome. |
| 19:36.09 | art3mis | i've actually got the framework sitting there |
| 19:36.16 | art3mis | i just suck at art and themes ;P |
| 19:36.28 | |pez| | I hope that wasn't a hint in any way. |
| 19:36.40 | art3mis | it totally was you ravishing trollop ;P |
| 19:36.56 | |pez| | I'm.. I'm busy! |
| 19:37.04 | art3mis | hehe ive had the domain for 5+ years |
| 19:37.07 | art3mis | i can wait |
| 19:37.09 | art3mis | heh |
| 19:37.10 | |pez| | nice XD |
| 19:37.23 | art3mis | bought it when i was in vancouver |
| 19:37.31 | Persephonea | Whoever wrote cgProfiler really doesn't know what code commenting is 0_o |
| 19:37.33 | art3mis | when i was actually canadian ;P |
| 19:37.45 | Shirik | They need to stop letting 13 year-olds buy servers |
| 19:37.48 | art3mis | Persephonea: go read rdx.cid ;P |
| 19:38.00 | Shirik | art3mis: what's that supposed to mean?! |
| 19:38.03 | art3mis | comments and whitespace were appearantly taboo ;P |
| 19:38.03 | Persephonea | hehe rdx.cid? |
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| 19:38.15 | Shirik | .... |
| 19:38.19 | Shirik | We commented everything we worked on |
| 19:38.21 | art3mis | veni's "writing" style gave me headaches |
| 19:38.23 | Shirik | Veni didn't comment, and with a reason |
| 19:38.25 | |pez| | Shirik: I'm no 13 year old ;___; |
| 19:38.28 | Shirik | he didn't want anyone to know it |
| 19:38.34 | art3mis | heh i know |
| 19:38.39 | Shirik | hell, it used to be all one line |
| 19:38.49 | art3mis | conspiracy is the opposite |
| 19:38.49 | Persephonea | yea... Commenting. Rule numero uno |
| 19:38.58 | art3mis | it's more comments than code |
| 19:39.02 | Shirik | >< |
| 19:39.11 | art3mis | i think shirik and cidan use the svn as an email replacement |
| 19:39.21 | Cide | -- Hey Cidan. What's up? |
| 19:39.23 | Shirik | hey |
| 19:39.29 | Shirik | RDX.Cid had a 100 line comment, ok?! |
| 19:39.33 | Persephonea | lol Curse uses the Ace library. So interesting |
| 19:39.34 | art3mis | Cide: not far off ;) |
| 19:39.40 | Shirik | ain't no 100 line comments in Conspiracy |
| 19:39.41 | Shirik | yet |
| 19:39.44 | Cide | Persephonea: why? |
| 19:39.54 | Persephonea | umm? Why what? |
| 19:40.01 | Cide | why is that 'so interesting'? :P |
| 19:40.08 | Persephonea | lol It's a .com |
| 19:40.18 | Cide | what? |
| 19:40.26 | Persephonea | One would think they would comment their code from here to there and back again |
| 19:40.29 | Persephonea | Curse.com |
| 19:40.34 | zenzelezz | ... and? |
| 19:40.39 | Persephonea | their profiler. None of the addon is commented |
| 19:40.57 | zenzelezz | I don't think we understood the Ace comment |
| 19:41.05 | Persephonea | oh, ace |
| 19:41.22 | art3mis | here try now |
| 19:41.44 | Persephonea | lol. Just interesting to see curse use the ace libs. |
| 19:42.01 | Cide | and that's what I'm questioing :P |
| 19:42.01 | zenzelezz | would you care to elaborate on what makes that interesting? |
| 19:42.03 | Persephonea | I'm not used to everyone using everyone elses work yet. |
| 19:42.04 | Cide | questioning |
| 19:42.07 | Cide | meh |
| 19:42.13 | Cide | wowace isn't an addon site |
| 19:42.18 | Cide | well, it has kind of become one |
| 19:42.23 | Cide | which is the most stupid thing in history |
| 19:42.29 | Persephonea | Ace is a library though, is it not? |
| 19:42.32 | art3mis | Cide: like CT wasnt a useful addon? |
| 19:42.32 | Cide | yes |
| 19:42.38 | Cide | and curse isn't a library |
| 19:42.42 | art3mis | yes it is |
| 19:42.51 | art3mis | curse.com is a different sort of library ;P |
| 19:42.53 | Cide | no it isn't |
| 19:43.00 | Persephonea | yes, but the profiler uses the library. Just interesting to see the .com use the community library |
| 19:43.01 | art3mis | where you can checkout "books" |
| 19:43.01 | Cide | art3mis: pretty much |
| 19:43.09 | art3mis | and ever return them |
| 19:43.13 | art3mis | never |
| 19:43.18 | Cide | Persephonea: ace is the community library? since when? |
| 19:43.34 | Persephonea | *sigh* For the ace addon community? |
| 19:43.56 | Cide | that I'll accept |
| 19:44.00 | Cide | stupid community though |
| 19:44.07 | art3mis | it's not stupid |
| 19:44.10 | Cide | yes it is |
| 19:44.13 | art3mis | it's advaaaaaaaaaannnnccccced |
| 19:44.43 | Persephonea | an advanced stupid community? |
| 19:44.49 | Cide | just stupid |
| 19:44.54 | art3mis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_F5FCWFa4wY |
| 19:44.54 | Cide | don't listen to anything art3mis says |
| 19:44.57 | art3mis | ^^ will explain |
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| 19:45.34 | Persephonea | lol |
| 19:45.41 | Persephonea | a perfect explanation |
| 19:45.42 | Seerah | the Ace library is just that - a library |
| 19:45.56 | Seerah | *ANY* author can use it |
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| 19:46.05 | Seerah | and host those Ace mods *wherever* they want to |
| 19:46.08 | Persephonea | yes. But I didn't expect it for the profiler |
| 19:46.12 | art3mis | right before that clip zim made the comment of being thanful the tallest trusted him with such advanced technology |
| 19:46.16 | Seerah | why not? |
| 19:46.29 | Persephonea | One sided thinking idubitably |
| 19:46.36 | Seerah | if the author of the profiler wants to use that library framework for their mod, then what's to stop them? |
| 19:47.09 | Persephonea | Uh. Nothing |
| 19:47.12 | Seerah | something to note: Kaelten, the admin of wowace, works for Curse |
| 19:47.13 | Persephonea | Just said it was interesting |
| 19:47.28 | zenzelezz | the libraries aren't at war |
| 19:47.37 | Seerah | there is no curse library |
| 19:47.38 | Cide | my library has declared war on wowace |
| 19:47.46 | Seerah | curse is just a website - that's all |
| 19:47.51 | Persephonea | WoW, just love how you guys blow crap out of proportion |
| 19:48.01 | Cide | of course |
| 19:48.07 | Seerah | I'm a teacher. I don't like to see people make assumptions :) |
| 19:48.16 | sylvanaar | kaelten works for curse? |
| 19:48.19 | Seerah | I like to make sure they're educated properly :) |
| 19:48.20 | zenzelezz | Persephonea: better get used to it, it happens in here a lot |
| 19:48.25 | Persephonea | yea, cause it makes an ass out of you and me |
| 19:48.32 | Cide | Persephonea: told you I'm an ass. |
| 19:48.40 | Kaelten | I keep getting pinged |
| 19:48.45 | art3mis | kael works for curse? |
| 19:48.45 | Persephonea | ass u me |
| 19:48.48 | Persephonea | assume |
| 19:48.50 | Cide | damnit |
| 19:48.55 | Seerah | lol |
| 19:48.59 | art3mis | and and here i thought he was cool ;P |
| 19:49.01 | sylvanaar | because you work for curse Kaelten |
| 19:49.07 | Seerah | I hope I'm not taking you away from your busy day, Kaelten :( |
| 19:49.15 | Cide | /ctcp Kaelten ping |
| 19:49.20 | Cide | do it, do it now |
| 19:49.26 | Seerah | we were just having a discussion about Ace and Curse |
| 19:49.28 | Kaelten | *sighs* I wish it wasn't busy |
| 19:49.33 | Seerah | I know :( |
| 19:49.43 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+v Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 19:50.04 | Kaelten | as far as Ace and Cruse, I was hired to make the cgProfiler a year and a half agoish |
| 19:50.04 | sylvanaar | im just joining - what is the discussion about |
| 19:50.06 | Seerah | I told Cairenn to give you a hug from me :) |
| 19:50.18 | Kaelten | lol, Seerah what for? |
| 19:50.31 | Seerah | cause she told us you were having a bad day :) |
| 19:50.42 | Kaelten | so when I made the cgProfiler, what libraries do you expect me to use? |
| 19:51.07 | Kaelten | ya its becoming rough, what should have been an easy goning middle day in a three day weekend |
| 19:51.08 | sylvanaar | none - from scratch, using punchcards |
| 19:51.09 | art3mis | oh i left that at home. left what at home? the guidey chippy thingy |
| 19:51.20 | art3mis | why would you leave that at home?! |
| 19:51.25 | art3mis | to make room for the cupcake! |
| 19:51.27 | Persephonea | mmm. I didn't know you made the profiler. Therefore how I could I know what libraries "you" would use? |
| 19:51.43 | Cide | l2telepathy |
| 19:51.44 | Cide | fucking noob. |
| 19:51.58 | Persephonea | freaking a. I failed that class |
| 19:52.04 | Cide | evidently |
| 19:52.16 | sylvanaar | Telepathy(tm) |
| 19:52.38 | art3mis | [13:47][#wowi-lounge]<Cide> i eat bugs. |
| 19:52.44 | Persephonea | lol |
| 19:52.46 | Cide | 13:37* |
| 19:52.49 | Seerah | cgProfiler7 hours agoInterface EnhancementsAn all inclusive profiler for curse.com.Kaelten61159 |
| 19:52.50 | Cide | I devour bugs. |
| 19:52.52 | art3mis | no |
| 19:53.00 | art3mis | you're not leet enough for that timestampe |
| 19:53.08 | Cide | says you. |
| 19:53.13 | art3mis | yes says me |
| 19:53.14 | Kaelten | Seerah: 7 hours ago? |
| 19:53.25 | art3mis | obey the fist! |
| 19:53.26 | Seerah | lib update probably |
| 19:53.33 | art3mis | obey it! |
| 19:53.36 | Kaelten | probably |
| 19:53.37 | Cide | art3mis: my timezone is -00:1/6 |
| 19:53.37 | art3mis | oh |
| 19:53.43 | Seerah | oh wait - it says 61159 |
| 19:53.47 | art3mis | well then you totally dont count |
| 19:53.50 | Seerah | then it's a real update, Kaelten |
| 19:54.18 | sylvanaar | corrected spelling in a comment |
| 19:54.36 | Persephonea | lol yea... a very little update. |
| 19:54.43 | Persephonea | but they all count for something |
| 19:54.47 | Seerah | Kaelten: nvm /sigh lib update x3 :) |
| 19:54.57 | Kaelten | lol |
| 19:55.08 | Persephonea | So, anyone anticipating the combat log changes? |
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| 19:55.17 | Cide | yes |
| 19:55.22 | Kaelten | talk to Antiarc about them, he's in love |
| 19:55.28 | sylvanaar | you mean "eagerly anticipating" |
| 19:55.28 | Persephonea | more flexibility i hear? |
| 19:55.36 | Cide | everyone who has ever dealt with combat log parsing will |
| 19:56.00 | Persephonea | I bet. Some of that looked to be a pain to work with |
| 19:56.20 | Antiarc | It's good stuff. |
| 19:56.48 | Persephonea | lol |
| 19:56.53 | sylvanaar | the client store it to boot |
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| 19:56.56 | art3mis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfzHjoRBbVA&feature=related |
| 19:57.57 | Persephonea | it explains all |
| 19:58.27 | Persephonea | does anyone use chatzilla? |
| 19:58.49 | sylvanaar | what is that |
| 19:58.51 | Crysli | I've got it, but I only use it at school. |
| 19:58.56 | sylvanaar | irc client? |
| 19:59.01 | Persephonea | yes. |
| 19:59.15 | sylvanaar | i think i tried it once, but i use mirc |
| 19:59.18 | Persephonea | I had a question related to the network tab... but I answered it myself |
| 19:59.31 | Persephonea | I was going to use mIRC... but i haven't gotten up the courage to go purchase it |
| 19:59.46 | Cide | xchat ftw |
| 19:59.47 | art3mis | Jacobs, I want to know absolutely everything that's happened up 'till now. |
| 19:59.47 | art3mis | Jacobs: |
| 19:59.48 | art3mis | Well, let's see: First the earth cooled. And, then the dinosaurs came, but they got too big and fat, so they all died, and they turned into oil. And, then the Arabs came and they bought Mercedes Benzes. And, Prince Charles started wearing all of Lady Di's clothes. I couldn't believe it, he took her best summer dress out of the closet, and put it on, and went to town. |
| 20:00.26 | Persephonea | that indeed is everything |
| 20:00.26 | art3mis | Ted Striker: |
| 20:00.26 | art3mis | They're launching the XR-2300! You know what that is doctor? |
| 20:00.26 | art3mis | Dr. Stone: |
| 20:00.26 | art3mis | The muffler bracket for the '79 Pinto? |
| 20:00.26 | art3mis | Ted Striker: |
| 20:00.29 | art3mis | No, that's the XR-2200. The 2300 is the lunar shuttle. |
| 20:00.38 | sylvanaar | big bang is missing |
| 20:00.39 | art3mis | god i love those movies |
| 20:00.55 | art3mis | http://www.uselessmoviequotes.com/umq_a004.htm |
| 20:01.10 | Persephonea | need more useless movie quotes |
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| 20:02.27 | Persephonea | my desktop is getting messy again. I need to clean it up =/ |
| 20:03.32 | Crysli | Mine only has the trash bin |
| 20:03.56 | Persephonea | I have icons and folders comming out to the middle of the screen atm |
| 20:04.19 | Persephonea | bunch of setup.exe too |
| 20:05.16 | |pez| | my laptop is almost full of stuff. |
| 20:05.30 | Persephonea | hehe. Is it using vista? |
| 20:05.38 | |pez| | no. XP |
| 20:06.10 | Persephonea | ah. Good ole xp. Still slightly buggy, but less so then vista |
| 20:06.17 | |pez| | I need to move stuff I've downloaded since I last planned to reinstall, and actually do it this time. :P |
| 20:06.55 | Cide | Persephonea: actually used vista? |
| 20:06.57 | Persephonea | hehe. I need to re-setup my backup hdd for my laptop and pc. had to reformat my laptop, and lost network connectivity to it via my pc |
| 20:07.01 | Cide | it's not buggy for me at all |
| 20:07.04 | Persephonea | yes. My laptop uses it |
| 20:07.11 | Cide | good |
| 20:07.15 | art3mis | Egg Shen: |
| 20:07.16 | art3mis | Can see things no one else can see. Do things no one else can do. |
| 20:07.16 | art3mis | Jack Burton: |
| 20:07.16 | art3mis | Real things? |
| 20:07.16 | art3mis | Egg Shen: |
| 20:07.16 | art3mis | As real as Lo Pan! |
| 20:07.18 | art3mis | Jack Burton: |
| 20:07.20 | art3mis | Hey, what more can a guy ask for? |
| 20:07.22 | art3mis | Egg Shen: |
| 20:07.24 | art3mis | Oh, a six-demon bag! |
| 20:07.26 | art3mis | Jack Burton: |
| 20:07.28 | art3mis | Terrific, a six-demon bag. Sensational. What's in it, Egg? |
| 20:07.30 | art3mis | Egg Shen: |
| 20:07.32 | |pez| | art3mis...? |
| 20:07.32 | art3mis | Wind, fire, all that kind of thing! |
| 20:07.34 | art3mis | ----- |
| 20:07.36 | art3mis | oops |
| 20:07.47 | art3mis | quote from big trouble in little china |
| 20:08.04 | Persephonea | hehe |
| 20:08.29 | Persephonea | But yea, vista doesn't play well with other programs in my experience |
| 20:09.00 | Cide | wrong |
| 20:09.02 | Persephonea | i've had to reformat my laptop 4-5 times after updating a virus definition or something |
| 20:09.09 | Cide | other programs don't play well with vista |
| 20:09.18 | Persephonea | mmm, True. I stand corrected |
| 20:09.20 | Cide | it's not vista's fault for having a decent security model now |
| 20:09.28 | Cide | everyone was whining because it *didn't* before |
| 20:09.31 | art3mis | vista is like the new smelly foreign exchange student |
| 20:09.37 | Persephonea | lol, I wasn't with xp. |
| 20:09.40 | art3mis | whos dad just became principal |
| 20:09.43 | Cide | well, people were |
| 20:09.59 | Persephonea | yea. I heard about it all the time |
| 20:10.18 | Persephonea | in fact, i run an admin/regular account setup on vista |
| 20:10.35 | Persephonea | it's nice for some things, but a pain in the butt for others |
| 20:10.48 | Persephonea | my regular account really can't write to C:\ |
| 20:13.53 | art3mis | Willie: I heard you screaming all the way down the alley. |
| 20:13.53 | art3mis | Leonard: I wasn't screaming! Alright? |
| 20:13.53 | art3mis | Willie: Yes you was. |
| 20:13.54 | art3mis | Leonard: I said I wasn't screaming! I was whistling! |
| 20:13.54 | art3mis | Willie: You was what? |
| 20:13.54 | art3mis | Leonard: I was whistling for you! |
| 20:13.56 | art3mis | Willie: You was whistling, "Willie, help, get this bitch off of me"? |
| 20:14.09 | |pez| | art3mis?! :P |
| 20:14.18 | art3mis | im gonna git you sucka |
| 20:16.27 | Persephonea | mmmm. The toughest point i'm going to have from converting from java to lua is syntax. I'm still only in the first half of my semeseter of OO |
| 20:17.36 | Crysli | lua syntax isn't that hard to adapt to. |
| 20:17.51 | Crysli | ...I just ripped out a chunk of my hair. I got gum stuck in it - I guess I could have just cut off some of the hair, but it seemed like a good idea at the time. |
| 20:19.04 | Persephonea | yea, but There are concepts in general that I'm still learning about in OO that I don't have atm for use in programming in lua |
| 20:19.13 | Persephonea | i.e. event driven programming |
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| 20:20.10 | Cide | is awesome |
| 20:20.19 | Persephonea | indeed, it is |
| 20:20.24 | Persephonea | but i'm not there yet |
| 20:21.06 | Cide | if you're only learning about programming concepts in class, you're not a real programmer :P |
| 20:21.07 | Persephonea | i'm still at running programs liniear(?) |
| 20:21.18 | Persephonea | never said i was a real programmer |
| 20:21.43 | Persephonea | I did mention I was taking OO class right? |
| 20:21.54 | Cide | only 15 times? |
| 20:22.04 | art3mis | http://www.uselessmoviequotes.com/umq_p011.htm <-- this is an awesome movie btw |
| 20:22.25 | batrick | lua taught me more about OO programming than java did |
| 20:23.06 | batrick | so what I'm really saying is learning lua is a good use of your time Persephonea :P |
| 20:23.08 | Persephonea | Indubitably, But, I'm still learning OO at the java levl |
| 20:24.27 | art3mis | Tank Girl: |
| 20:24.29 | art3mis | You just got to think about it like the first time you got laid. You just gotta go, "Daddy, are you sure this is right?" |
| 20:24.59 | Persephonea | hehe |
| 20:25.09 | art3mis | naomi watts was so hot in that movie |
| 20:25.47 | Persephonea | never saw it |
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| 20:33.02 | art3mis | you've never seen tankgirl? |
| 20:33.11 | art3mis | you should go rent it |
| 20:33.19 | art3mis | lori petty == awesome |
| 20:33.25 | art3mis | One time my cousin Walter got this cat stuck in his ass. True story. He bought it at our local mall, so the whole fiasco wound up on the news. It was embarrassing for my relatives and all. But, the next week, he did it again--difference cat, same results, complete with another trip to the emergency room. So, I run into him a week later in the mall and he's buying another cat. And, I says to him, "Jesus, Walt, what are you doing?! You know |
| 20:33.57 | Persephonea | i think you lost part of the quote =P |
| 20:35.02 | art3mis | Pie Jesu domine, |
| 20:35.05 | art3mis | Dona eis requiem. |
| 20:35.15 | art3mis | i think i did too |
| 20:35.37 | Shirik | I need someone who's using windows, does not have the windows SDK installed, and trusts me enough to run a program. Any takers? |
| 20:35.49 | art3mis | ohoh pick me! |
| 20:35.56 | Persephonea | lol windows sdk? |
| 20:36.05 | Shirik | i.e., visual studio or any of the debug DLLs |
| 20:36.16 | Persephonea | oh, yea, i have visual studio i think. let me check |
| 20:36.36 | Shirik | I need to make sure I packaged this correctly |
| 20:36.45 | Shirik | visual studio has a tendency to add in things that only developers would have |
| 20:37.05 | Persephonea | hmmm. I don't see anything installed about visual studios, but I can't be sure |
| 20:37.05 | art3mis | gimme a sec and you can dcc |
| 20:37.20 | Shirik | no I can't because my ISP hates DCC |
| 20:37.20 | Persephonea | kk, So, The event "PLAYER_GUILD_UPDATE"... that doesn't show up in the combat log right? |
| 20:37.32 | art3mis | filehost.wowdev.net ;) |
| 20:38.40 | Persephonea | i'm searching for visual studios. I'm doubting that I have it installed 0_o |
| 20:39.39 | zenzelezz | no mailbox in Coldridge Valley? |
| 20:39.53 | Persephonea | negative |
| 20:39.57 | Persephonea | they dislike you |
| 20:40.07 | zenzelezz | bah, so I have to go all the way to Kharanos for the stuff I sent :-| |
| 20:40.18 | Persephonea | affirmative |
| 20:41.40 | Persephonea | I have visual studio 8 installed apprently |
| 20:41.47 | Persephonea | probably from when I was messing around with ascent |
| 20:42.10 | Persephonea | so, i'm not a canidate |
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| 20:49.02 | Persephonea | does GuildRoster() Return a table? Or does GetGuildRosterInfo(index) return a table? |
| 20:50.21 | Guillotine | GuildRoster() just fetches the data from the server iirc |
| 20:50.22 | Fin | it returns an iterator, no? |
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| 20:50.31 | Guillotine | and yah, its an iterator, not a table |
| 20:51.01 | Persephonea | mmm, I guess i"m just confused on how tables work in lua =/ |
| 20:51.29 | Fin | which is like, something you can do something, which becomes something else the next time you do that thing to it, sort of |
| 20:51.42 | Fin | something you can do something *to*, sorry |
| 20:51.51 | Persephonea | i.e., looking at an electron or something changes it? |
| 20:51.53 | alestane | A controller for a "for" loop. |
| 20:52.42 | Fin | you use iterators in loops and they point to a different thingy each time, I think |
| 20:52.50 | Fin | basically |
| 20:52.58 | Persephonea | i.e. i++ in java? |
| 20:53.02 | alestane | Calling an iterator gives you something to work on, and either that object or another return from the iterator can be fed back into the iterator to get the next object. For loops do this more or less automatically. |
| 20:53.39 | Fin | http://pgl.yoyo.org/luai/i/for |
| 20:53.40 | Kaso | http://www.lua.org/pil/7.html |
| 20:53.44 | Persephonea | ah, so if for(int i = 0; i <10; i++) |
| 20:53.58 | Fin | search for "The generic for statement works over functions, called iterators." |
| 20:53.58 | Persephonea | joe[i] = whatever |
| 20:54.00 | Persephonea | } |
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| 20:54.27 | Kaso | Chapter 7 of PIL describes itterators rather well |
| 20:54.39 | Cide | I wouldn't call i an iterator |
| 20:54.53 | Cide | but I don't know how pil or the manual describes it |
| 20:54.58 | Fin | i is in da hizaous |
| 20:55.29 | Fin | </ali g?> |
| 20:55.39 | Persephonea | 0_o? |
| 20:55.52 | Fin | f262y |
| 20:56.40 | Cairenn | new feature on wowi: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14961 |
| 20:57.08 | alestane | I actually wrote an iterator to go through a toon's bags: for bagslot, itemlink in allBags do ... end |
| 20:57.14 | Fin | Cairenn: may I suggest something? |
| 20:57.23 | Cairenn | Fin: go for it |
| 20:57.34 | art3mis | whats AION btw? |
| 20:57.37 | Fin | could you perhaps make an easy-to-remember redirect to the current week's pick? |
| 20:57.50 | zenzelezz | Cairenn: cool =) |
| 20:57.58 | Fin | like, /pick/ -> whichever forum thread it is for this week |
| 20:58.09 | art3mis | something like http://www.wowinterface.com/fin_sucks_goats/ |
| 20:58.15 | Fin | also, yeah, cool! there's not enough proper reviews and stuff |
| 20:58.16 | zenzelezz | www.wowinterface.com/hawt/ |
| 20:58.17 | Cairenn | Fin: hmmm |
| 20:58.34 | art3mis | hkui should get a perm palce on that ;P |
| 20:58.53 | zenzelezz | it is my totally objective opinion that my redirect suggestion was best |
| 20:59.04 | Fin | Cairenn: I want to read it each week, but I would rather not have to navigate my way through whatever's in the way to find out where the current thread is |
| 20:59.25 | Fin | just a suggestion :) |
| 20:59.26 | Cairenn | I'm going to put a little news post every week reminding people to check out the latest thread |
| 20:59.35 | Cairenn | but there's also an entirely new forum for them |
| 20:59.43 | zenzelezz | ah, cool |
| 20:59.45 | Fin | yeah, but, I don't read the news post normally, and I hardly ever go to the forum index |
| 20:59.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Fin's suggestion would be really simple to add |
| 20:59.54 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 21:00.03 | zenzelezz | Fin always was simple |
| 21:00.04 | ScytheBlade1 | <?php header("Location: http://www.wowinterface.com/whatever.php "); ?> |
| 21:00.05 | zenzelezz | ;-o |
| 21:00.05 | art3mis | scythe shhhh |
| 21:00.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Tada! |
| 21:00.10 | Cide | rss feed imo |
| 21:00.12 | ScytheBlade1 | art3mis: ? |
| 21:00.13 | Cairenn | I'm sure dolby-wowi will also set up an RSS feed for it |
| 21:00.17 | Cairenn | lol Cide :) |
| 21:00.25 | art3mis | you're making fin feel good about his suggestionwhich is totally counter to the channels goal |
| 21:00.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh |
| 21:00.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Fin: fail |
| 21:00.35 | ScytheBlade1 | ~fail Fin |
| 21:00.35 | purl | Fin: Fail. |
| 21:00.40 | Fin | I have specific parts of the site I have bookmarked that I read, and having to go via the front page or forum index, or, anywhere, would be more effort than I normally have to make :) but woo, RSS works :) |
| 21:00.40 | ScytheBlade1 | art3mis: better? |
| 21:00.49 | art3mis | well you've ruined it now |
| 21:01.00 | art3mis | but we're forgiving you get one more chance ;P |
| 21:01.16 | Cairenn | Fin: easy enough to bookmark that forum as well though |
| 21:01.16 | art3mis | can we just start calluing him Thomas? |
| 21:01.22 | art3mis | instead of dolby-wowi? |
| 21:01.37 | Cairenn | no? |
| 21:01.37 | art3mis | or Double D |
| 21:01.43 | Crysli | Well I'm going to go to bed. Got school tomorrow. (new schedule == suck) |
| 21:01.49 | Cairenn | night Crysli |
| 21:01.53 | Crysli | Sleep tight when you get to that |
| 21:02.00 | Fin | Cairenn: I'm not trying to say it's not easy to get to - even reading the front page isn't exactly going to tire me out for the day - I just like shortcuts where possible, so thought to suggest one for this :) |
| 21:02.20 | Cairenn | aye, and not disagreeing |
| 21:02.30 | Cairenn | was just letting you know that we did give it it's own forum |
| 21:02.36 | art3mis | oh that reminds me |
| 21:02.39 | Fin | I hereby retire from the proceedings :) |
| 21:02.41 | Cairenn | :) |
| 21:02.50 | art3mis | is there a link to "my addons" on the main page like the old version? |
| 21:02.51 | Fin | it's spiffy, whether you add a redirect or not! |
| 21:02.57 | art3mis | i dont think ive ever noticed it |
| 21:03.11 | Cairenn | art3mis: yup |
| 21:03.21 | Cairenn | the user menu on the right hand side |
| 21:03.49 | art3mis | there's no login on the main page |
| 21:03.51 | art3mis | ;P |
| 21:04.00 | Fin | zenzelezz: rather simple than ugly! |
| 21:04.08 | Fin | :P |
| 21:04.15 | Fin | </belated retort> |
| 21:04.19 | art3mis | or rather on the default page |
| 21:04.26 | Cairenn | sorry, I need to remember to call it "community" instead of main |
| 21:04.32 | Fin | hahah |
| 21:04.35 | art3mis | heh |
| 21:05.09 | art3mis | i do like the dark layout though |
| 21:05.17 | Cairenn | to me, that will always be the "main" page of the site |
| 21:05.32 | art3mis | yeah Find defaults as the first glimpse |
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| 21:05.37 | Fin | actually, on the subject (and maybe this is a better question for a forum, but:) does anyone know of any other review / pick / rundown of addon(s) that's regularly produced in any form? |
| 21:05.41 | Fin | I know of one podcast |
| 21:05.49 | Fin | there used to be a blog, also, but that died years ago |
| 21:05.54 | art3mis | fin most sits that host addons have the feature |
| 21:05.57 | art3mis | sites |
| 21:06.05 | art3mis | but not a single dedicated no |
| 21:06.25 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:06.25 | art3mis | 9,751 |
| 21:06.31 | art3mis | ^^ amount of hkui downloads |
| 21:06.44 | [dRaCo] | wtf |
| 21:07.10 | [dRaCo] | they should ban every person who dl'd it ;P |
| 21:08.18 | Persephonea | mmm. Tables take up the place of vectors and arrays? |
| 21:08.28 | Fin | tables are arrays |
| 21:08.37 | Persephonea | hehe. My bad |
| 21:09.02 | Persephonea | ah, Now I remember back to that one ip class. |
| 21:09.10 | Fin | it's all just semantics :) or... wait, do I mean terminology? words, anyway |
| 21:09.25 | Persephonea | java is something like int[][] right? For setting up a table? |
| 21:09.39 | Fin | pass |
| 21:09.53 | Persephonea | lolz |
| 21:10.13 | alestane | A table is an indefinite collection of associations, i.e. key-value pairs. You can use integer keys to emulate an array, or string keys to emulate a record. |
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| 21:10.36 | Fin | I had this conversation with someone a while ago |
| 21:10.52 | Fin | it ended up with three sides using various references, and an undecided winner |
| 21:11.13 | Persephonea | lol |
| 21:11.42 | Fin | although three sides would be a triangle, hahah |
| 21:13.58 | art3mis | whee! |
| 21:14.06 | Persephonea | hmmm, It is int[][] iArray = new int[9][9]; |
| 21:14.14 | art3mis | my playing on the ah has raised wool stacks from 1.25 a pop to 2.75 a pop ;P |
| 21:14.35 | Persephonea | wool stacks went form 1g to nearly 3 g? |
| 21:14.37 | Persephonea | lol |
| 21:14.40 | art3mis | yup |
| 21:14.46 | Persephonea | what server are you on? |
| 21:15.00 | art3mis | echo isles i think, one sec ;P |
| 21:15.08 | art3mis | yeah |
| 21:15.18 | Persephonea | private? |
| 21:15.22 | art3mis | no real |
| 21:15.29 | art3mis | privates are bad ;P |
| 21:15.29 | Persephonea | echo isles. Must be new? |
| 21:15.32 | art3mis | nope |
| 21:15.41 | Persephonea | Never heard of it. Is it EU? |
| 21:15.44 | art3mis | us |
| 21:15.58 | Persephonea | lol I guess i just don't look at the realm list very much =/ |
| 21:16.30 | Fin | who does |
| 21:16.37 | Persephonea | mmmmmmmm. I like this new flavor of Eclipse. They added a task pane. |
| 21:17.04 | Persephonea | reminds me. I still have to look at netbeans |
| 21:17.16 | art3mis | and www.sandboxie.com |
| 21:17.19 | art3mis | ! |
| 21:17.51 | Persephonea | lol |
| 21:17.54 | Persephonea | nice shirt |
| 21:18.04 | Fin | heh |
| 21:18.56 | Persephonea | I dont' get sandboxie? |
| 21:19.26 | Shirik | sandboxie! |
| 21:19.39 | Persephonea | wait, nvm, i get it |
| 21:19.46 | Persephonea | actually, that's pretty sick |
| 21:20.01 | art3mis | sandboxie is awesome |
| 21:20.06 | Persephonea | so you use it? |
| 21:20.13 | art3mis | to play with virus' |
| 21:20.19 | Shirik | virii |
| 21:20.28 | art3mis | heh |
| 21:20.57 | Persephonea | lol. Play with virii... Sounds delicate |
| 21:21.39 | art3mis | its kinna fun to play wow in it too |
| 21:21.48 | Persephonea | lol? |
| 21:21.49 | art3mis | since you can then monitor warden without it spazzing |
| 21:21.55 | Persephonea | ah |
| 21:21.58 | Fin | wait, sorry, it actually says "Are you still in the dark? Shed light on your Java development" - but then Eclipse's whole name is a jab at Sun in the first place, which I guess wins |
| 21:22.18 | Fin | Shirik: the plural of virus is viruses |
| 21:22.24 | Shirik | ~dict virii |
| 21:22.30 | Shirik | hm, I'll find it |
| 21:22.33 | Persephonea | lol |
| 21:22.34 | Fin | please do |
| 21:22.38 | Persephonea | www.dictionary.com |
| 21:22.48 | Fin | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virii |
| 21:22.49 | Shirik | holy crap |
| 21:22.50 | art3mis | you're thinking of my argument shirik ;P |
| 21:22.52 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plural_of_virus |
| 21:22.54 | Shirik | that's awesome |
| 21:22.59 | Shirik | they have a whole page on it |
| 21:23.11 | art3mis | octopus octopii |
| 21:23.16 | art3mis | virus virii |
| 21:23.27 | art3mis | its not technically correct but it's used in everday |
| 21:23.37 | Fin | so, wrong |
| 21:23.39 | Persephonea | same difference |
| 21:23.50 | art3mis | like spelled/spelt |
| 21:24.05 | Fin | your line of argument is terrible |
| 21:24.14 | art3mis | and you need to bathe more |
| 21:24.27 | Persephonea | so should I download the SE For Netbeans? |
| 21:24.44 | Fin | "this is wrong... but people use it" - starting by admitting you're wrong and then continuing the argument, well |
| 21:24.51 | Fin | it's just wrong |
| 21:25.06 | art3mis | i said technically ;P |
| 21:25.11 | art3mis | it's all about the semantics |
| 21:25.19 | Persephonea | technical*? |
| 21:25.33 | Persephonea | nvm |
| 21:25.35 | Persephonea | i can't read |
| 21:25.35 | art3mis | in lanuage technical discussion yes ;P |
| 21:25.37 | Fin | technically wrong is still, I'm afraid, wrong |
| 21:25.46 | art3mis | not really |
| 21:25.49 | Persephonea | theoreticaly wrong? |
| 21:25.51 | art3mis | us court systems have proved that |
| 21:26.07 | art3mis | technically wrong is just wrong from a certain point of view ;P |
| 21:26.10 | Fin | a "technical discussion of language" is just a discussion about language, and something which is technically wrong means that it is incorrect. there's loads of ways to put it! |
| 21:26.26 | Fin | it's wrong from the point of view of being right |
| 21:26.43 | art3mis | nope its wrong from the point of view of a preconcieved notuion of being right |
| 21:26.54 | art3mis | notion |
| 21:26.56 | Fin | this is fun actually, I think I could keep this up for a long time if I had to |
| 21:26.58 | art3mis | sorta like string theory |
| 21:27.01 | Persephonea | i reiterate, same difference |
| 21:27.14 | art3mis | it's "right" because it cant be proved wrong |
| 21:27.25 | Fin | no, not in this case |
| 21:27.47 | Fin | it's not really like string theory I'm afraid :) |
| 21:28.03 | Fin | arg! I need to go find movies~! |
| 21:28.04 | art3mis | and as we've noticed in language(english in particular) right and wrong just means time hasnt vindicated it ;P |
| 21:28.06 | Persephonea | how about we just /pat and call it a day? |
| 21:28.21 | Persephonea | =P |
| 21:28.34 | Fin | I concede; you are right, I am and have always been wrong. my apologies, bye! |
| 21:29.03 | Persephonea | You have driven the Great and Mighty Fin from the IRC channel art3mis. How does that make you feel? |
| 21:29.57 | art3mis | http://www.techeblog.com/index.php |
| 21:30.02 | art3mis | actually it makes me pretty good |
| 21:30.17 | art3mis | psphone |
| 21:30.52 | Persephonea | lol. No thanks. My phone is for calling people... not playing games =P |
| 21:31.28 | art3mis | heh |
| 21:31.33 | art3mis | i have a blackjack |
| 21:31.37 | art3mis | but thats kinna cool |
| 21:31.42 | Persephonea | true |
| 21:31.50 | art3mis | wouldnt you like your phone modded to support a 2.5" minidrive? |
| 21:31.51 | Persephonea | it eliminates 2 devices by combining |
| 21:31.59 | art3mis | because thats what psp people do |
| 21:32.12 | Persephonea | lol all I ever use it for is calling people, and the alarm clock |
| 21:32.16 | Persephonea | nothing else 0_o |
| 21:32.16 | art3mis | AND if they use the battery scheme from the psp, that means it'll be useful |
| 21:32.25 | Persephonea | true |
| 21:32.45 | art3mis | instead of my blackjack that can play music if i only want my phone to be on for 45mins ;P |
| 21:36.05 | Industrial | lua> function (...) a=... end |
| 21:36.05 | lua_bot | Industrial: function: 0x62da10 |
| 21:36.09 | Industrial | thats possible? |
| 21:36.11 | art3mis | hrm |
| 21:36.27 | art3mis | i wodner how muc it would cost to level alchemy if i ONLY did it though the ah |
| 21:36.52 | Industrial | lua> local a function b (...) a=... end b('c','d') print(a) |
| 21:36.52 | lua_bot | Industrial: c |
| 21:36.55 | Industrial | right |
| 21:37.37 | nevcairiel | what did you expect? |
| 21:37.44 | nevcairiel | a variable can only hold one value =) |
| 21:38.35 | Industrial | yeah, just not sure about the way lua woult set it |
| 21:39.27 | alestane | lua> local a local function b (...) a = {...} end print(unpack(a)) |
| 21:39.27 | lua_bot | alestane: luabot:1: bad argument #1 to 'unpack' (table expected, got nil) |
| 21:39.45 | alestane | lua> local a local function b (...) a = {...} end b('c', 'd') print(unpack(a)) |
| 21:39.45 | lua_bot | alestane: c, d |
| 21:42.26 | Industrial | I know :. |
| 21:42.27 | Industrial | :. |
| 21:42.29 | Industrial | :>* |
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| 21:48.11 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.3.x ToC: 20300 | WoW programming book http://tinyurl.com/2gdel9 | "Don't worry about people stealing an idea. If it's original, you will have to ram it down their throats." - Howard Aiken |
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| 21:50.25 | Persephonea | blah, remotely working from my laptop can be awsome and a pain. |
| 21:50.26 | wereHamster | Cairenn, where do you find these quotes? |
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| 21:50.42 | Cairenn | all kinds of different places |
| 21:50.49 | Cairenn | that one I just got from quote of the day |
| 21:51.02 | Persephonea | I use Google's Quotes of the Day |
| 21:51.05 | Cairenn | I've got a bunch of sites bookmarked that have neat quotations and stuff |
| 21:51.09 | Cairenn | Persephonea: yup |
| 21:51.31 | Persephonea | you can find some really great quotes that way |
| 21:51.35 | Cairenn | sometimes I use the log files from in here and take something out of context |
| 21:51.43 | Cairenn | whatever strikes my fancy at any given time |
| 21:52.00 | Persephonea | Who wrote clique again? |
| 21:52.08 | bleeter | cladhaire |
| 21:52.08 | ScytheBlade1 | clad |
| 21:52.37 | Persephonea | kk, I keep confusing you and Clad, Cairenn |
| 21:52.43 | Cairenn | :) |
| 21:52.53 | Persephonea | you have that aire in ur name |
| 21:53.04 | Cairenn | happens all the time - both gaelic names that start with C |
| 21:53.15 | Persephonea | hehe |
| 21:53.57 | Persephonea | to bad i chat zilla doesn't keep a list of names for me to use. |
| 21:54.32 | Fin | type /names |
| 21:59.49 | Esine | hey anyone know if there's any weapons (1h swords, daggers or staves) that have item lvl 35 or up and are obtainable at lvl 19? |
| 22:00.11 | Esine | from some instance as a bop drop, made by blacksmiths or anything |
| 22:00.26 | Esine | I'm making a 19 twink mage and I'd like to have +40 spell damage on his weapon.. |
| 22:00.44 | alestane | Armory would be a better place to check, wouldn't it? It has item levels. |
| 22:00.49 | Esine | oh! |
| 22:00.57 | Esine | I'll check it out thanks |
| 22:02.54 | Esine | except that I can't see item levels in armory.. only required level |
| 22:03.49 | alestane | It did at some point...I think you can see them in item lists, but you might not be able to search or filter by them. I'm not sure. |
| 22:03.55 | Esine | ah right |
| 22:03.59 | Esine | I see them on the list but wasn't in the search |
| 22:04.03 | Esine | thanks alestane |
| 22:06.26 | sioraiocht | Cairenn: although your name is a proper name, it'd be rather mean to name someone Cladhaire |
| 22:06.57 | Cairenn | sioraiocht: aye, but in context it's a "name" |
| 22:07.17 | alestane | I confess, my gaelge is too weak to provide a meaning. |
| 22:07.34 | Fin | oh, hey, mine too |
| 22:07.50 | sioraiocht | alestane, it amnes rogue |
| 22:07.53 | sioraiocht | but also coward |
| 22:07.55 | sioraiocht | *means |
| 22:08.06 | alestane | "villain", in the old sense? |
| 22:08.12 | sioraiocht | aye |
| 22:08.32 | sioraiocht | An bhfuil tú cúpla focal agat, a alestane? |
| 22:08.48 | Persephonea | yo no entiendo |
| 22:08.58 | Kivin | Is it possible to reverse the effects of SecureStateHeader:SetAttribute("addchild", child)? |
| 22:09.05 | alestane | I can say, "ta an cailin ag siul" and that's about it. |
| 22:09.28 | sioraiocht | lo siento, solo le pregunté si alestane hablaba gaélico |
| 22:09.33 | sioraiocht | hahah |
| 22:09.36 | sioraiocht | that's something |
| 22:10.01 | sioraiocht | my name is also irish |
| 22:10.08 | alestane | Kivin: Except for the change to the OnClick handler. |
| 22:10.23 | alestane | sioraiocht: I presumed that much just from the spelling. |
| 22:10.37 | Persephonea | lo siento, yo entiendo un poco espanol, y habo mas peqeno espanol. |
| 22:10.41 | Kivin | alestane: One addchild should overwrite the next safely, yes? |
| 22:10.58 | alestane | Kivin: I'm taking another look at the code now. |
| 22:11.17 | Kivin | alestane: Don't go too far out of your way. I've read the code, but don't understand the full implications of it |
| 22:12.01 | sioraiocht | Persephonea: Aprendí español en escuela, pero aquí (en Inglaterra) nadie lo habla; la mayoría de las personas estudia francés o alemán |
| 22:12.16 | sag_ich_nicht | 02/17/08 23:11:44> [Arkanitlager]: Level 41 Dwarf Paladin <TwoGirlsOneCup> - Ironforge |
| 22:12.16 | sag_ich_nicht | 02/17/08 23:11:44> 1 player total |
| 22:12.54 | sioraiocht | Tendré que hablar uno de los dos pronto si quiero poder a viajar en Europa y no depender en personas hablando ingles |
| 22:14.25 | alestane | Kivin: You should be able to safely reparent the child to another frame. If the new parent is another stateheader, you probably want to use just :SetParent() rather than :SetAttribute('addchild'). |
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| 22:15.57 | alestane | Since the only spanish I know comes from dealing with cellphone customers, it's over my head. But I can retaliate if you'd like: supeingo to airurandogo mo dekiru you desu kedo, nihongo wa dou deshou ka na? |
| 22:16.42 | Kivin | alestane: Thanks |
| 22:16.45 | Persephonea | lolz |
| 22:22.17 | Guillotine | tengu un gato en su pantalones |
| 22:22.28 | Guillotine | or is it tenges? |
| 22:22.56 | alestane | It's something about a cat in your underwear, but I only took one semester of Spanish and it was years ago., |
| 22:23.21 | Guillotine | same here |
| 22:23.41 | Guillotine | hmm, I was pretty sure pantalones was just pants, but it could be underwear |
| 22:23.57 | alestane | Don't take my word for it. |
| 22:24.05 | Kivin | Actually, one more quick Q if i may: which is correct way to format a secure button's attribute name for mouse button handling: type-statename1 or type1-statename? or is that even possible? |
| 22:24.31 | alestane | I'm not clear on what you want to happen yet. |
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| 22:25.08 | Kivin | if in state shadow and button 1 then "cast Shadow Word: Pain" or button 2 "cast Mind Flay" |
| 22:25.36 | alestane | On live or the PTR? |
| 22:25.44 | Kivin | o.o it's different? |
| 22:25.48 | Kivin | uh, live... |
| 22:26.16 | alestane | There's some more advanced state attribute behavior available in the PTR build. Everything in live still works. |
| 22:26.24 | Kivin | okay |
| 22:26.46 | Kivin | Basically, I want to add left/right click handling to: SetAttribute("type-shadow", "spell") SetAttribute("spell-shadow", "Shadow Word: Pain") |
| 22:27.20 | Kivin | I know type1, type2 works. But can that be used in tandum with -state |
| 22:27.44 | nevcairiel | sure it can |
| 22:27.56 | Kivin | So back to the original question, what's the correct way to format the attribute name |
| 22:28.02 | Kivin | type-state1 or type1-state |
| 22:28.09 | alestane | button:SetAttribute('statebutton1', "Shadow: Shadow1; *:LeftButton") |
| 22:28.28 | alestane | button:SetAttribute('statebutton2', "Shadow: Shadow2; *:RightButton") |
| 22:28.48 | Kivin | oh dear |
| 22:29.06 | alestane | button:SetAttribute('*spell-Shadow1', "Shadow Word: Pain") |
| 22:29.31 | alestane | button:SetAttribute('*spell-Shadow2', "Mind Flay") |
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| 22:29.54 | Kivin | what's the ; *:LeftButton doing. anything that doesn't match shadow hits state "leftButton"? |
| 22:30.21 | alestane | I don't know what you want it to do in any state besides "Shadow". |
| 22:30.35 | alestane | So it's just passing the original button back out in any other state. |
| 22:31.09 | Kivin | What a horrible system -.- |
| 22:31.28 | alestane | That's why I propsed a revision. |
| 22:32.01 | Kivin | Feels like they tried to force the triangle block through the circle hole in one of those childrens games. |
| 22:32.29 | alestane | It was written by one guy who doesn't actually work for Blizzard. He did an impressive job but he's one guy. |
| 22:32.38 | Kivin | Aye |
| 22:32.51 | Kivin | Elegant, but not intuitive, I think I heard someone say in #wowace. |
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| 22:36.21 | alestane | You can find the upcoming version of state code here ( http://wdnaddons.com/0407923/FrameXML/SecureStateHeader.lua ) along with a little documentation. Example here: http://wowi.pastey.net/82507 |
| 22:37.43 | Industrial | upcomgin version? they care changing things? |
| 22:38.09 | alestane | Adding some new functionality. |
| 22:38.23 | Kivin | Appreciated, though I'm not familiar with the system, old or new, to understand what's even changed about that |
| 22:38.43 | alestane | Check the Upcoming 2.4 Changes thread (it's one line). |
| 22:40.27 | Kivin | Okay, so they can set their own attributes |
| 22:40.35 | Tuller | Secure Templates |
| 22:40.36 | Tuller | * The SecureStateHeader now provides a mechanism to change its own attributes in response to state changes. |
| 22:40.41 | Tuller | two lines! |
| 22:41.13 | Kivin | *shrug* The more I work with secure templates, the more I get disgusted with the system all together. I think I just need to can my experiment and save my gray hairs. |
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| 22:44.21 | alestane | It's the initial concept approach that creates a headache. I went through it too. It's actually part of the motivation behind the changes going into 2.4. |
| 22:44.51 | alestane | Trying to make the concept more accessible and verstaile. |
| 22:44.55 | alestane | versatile* |
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| 22:46.23 | Industrial | Kivin: I did. |
| 22:46.28 | Industrial | never touched them again :p |
| 22:48.23 | alestane | We're hoping to cut down on that reaction a little. |
| 22:49.06 | alestane | My opinion is that the statebutton code is probably the most counter-intuitive and awkward part of the system. |
| 22:50.52 | Xinhuan | "The SecureStatheeader now provides a mechanism to change its own attributes in response to state changes." |
| 22:50.53 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 22:51.07 | Xinhuan | i dont' have to use a second header to change the first header anymore? |
| 22:51.49 | Xinhuan | they should just totally revamp the whole actionbar system for wotlk imo |
| 22:52.00 | alestane | Xinhuan: Depends what changes you want. But an example of how the system can become more compact is here: http://wowi.pastey.net/82507 |
| 22:52.11 | foxlit | It works, it's customizable, and it works :) |
| 22:52.23 | Xinhuan | hmm currently popbars require 2 headers right? |
| 22:53.02 | Xinhuan | one header to change the hover in/out status, and another header to change the visbility of children buttons? |
| 22:55.01 | alestane | I would guess one anchor and one header. |
| 22:55.23 | Xinhuan | yeah, so will the change allow merging them into 1? |
| 22:57.02 | zenzelezz | heh, spotted a level 5 warlock getting chain-ganked by level 5-6 boars... no imp |
| 22:58.16 | zenzelezz | didn't realize you couldn't trade with trial accounts |
| 22:58.17 | alestane | Xinhuan: Not sure. I don't do enough with action bar mods. |
| 22:59.25 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 22:59.31 | Xinhuan | i'll have to look into it i guess |
| 22:59.58 | Xinhuan | would be much better if they rewrite the whole actionbar system for 3.0 |
| 23:00.04 | Xinhuan | the current bar system is just unwieldy |
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| 23:03.29 | alestane | Well, we added in an "actionpage" attribute to help smooth it out a little a few patches ago. |
| 23:04.04 | kd3 | whoo... ~52 hours away from my computer: 809 new items in my feed reader |
| 23:05.46 | Tuller | the biggest thing that was done to improve the state header was use macro syntax :P |
| 23:06.11 | Tuller | which allows implicit priorities, yay |
| 23:06.19 | Xinhuan | which introduces so much string parsing that i don't know if it is a better implementation |
| 23:06.29 | Tuller | oh it is :) |
| 23:07.47 | Tuller | but yes, I would wager only about 10 people know how to use the system :P |
| 23:08.29 | nevcairiel | yeah macro syntax ftw |
| 23:08.48 | nevcairiel | altho my stack based priority system was kinda cool too |
| 23:08.51 | nevcairiel | rather complex |
| 23:08.53 | nevcairiel | but meh |
| 23:08.53 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 23:09.29 | Tuller | the original bongos system had a billion states :P |
| 23:09.34 | nevcairiel | mine too |
| 23:09.40 | Shirik | were they modular states? |
| 23:09.43 | Xinhuan | i don't really understand the system yet |
| 23:09.51 | Xinhuan | but maybe one day, if i'm bored enough, i might try |
| 23:10.01 | Tuller | Shirik: I think there were around 117 total :) |
| 23:10.02 | Shirik | If they were modular states, it gives you an excuse to have a billion of them |
| 23:10.08 | zenzelezz | and when you master it, they'll change it the next week |
| 23:10.18 | Xinhuan | hah |
| 23:10.52 | Tuller | nevcairiel: write me a good database structure for bongos3 :) |
| 23:11.57 | Tuller | Shirik: think action bar page 2, cat form |
| 23:12.04 | Tuller | would be one state |
| 23:12.33 | nevcairiel | Shirik: they were dynamicly generated states for saving information within the state .. so yeah .. complicated =P |
| 23:12.49 | Shirik | if it's modular it's allowed to be complicated |
| 23:12.51 | Shirik | that's all I'm saying |
| 23:13.21 | Tuller | well, it was complicated & slow |
| 23:13.34 | nevcairiel | and some stuff really was hard to do |
| 23:13.41 | nevcairiel | but macro syntax saved us from that misery |
| 23:13.48 | nevcairiel | now i have what.. |
| 23:13.51 | nevcairiel | 12 states |
| 23:13.54 | Tuller | some stuff being: anything you wanted to do a combination of |
| 23:14.13 | Tuller | you could do one thing, or another thing, but not both without a headache |
| 23:14.28 | nevcairiel | i created like combined numbers to have both |
| 23:14.30 | nevcairiel | was such a bitch |
| 23:14.36 | Tuller | yep |
| 23:14.51 | Tuller | I'm still not sure if stacks actually work :) |
| 23:15.04 | nevcairiel | they did |
| 23:15.14 | nevcairiel | but they screwed up on some occasions |
| 23:15.22 | nevcairiel | you just couldnt have all transitions covered :D |
| 23:15.41 | Shirik | dear god these screenshots are so old |
| 23:15.51 | Shirik | it still lists "Bongos 7.1" on there (I guess that's Bongos 1) |
| 23:15.58 | Tuller | yep |
| 23:16.17 | Tuller | probably jan, 2007 |
| 23:16.48 | Shirik | wow |
| 23:16.52 | Shirik | that's kinda depressing actually |
| 23:17.39 | Tuller | nevcairiel: I need defaults and nils at the same time :) |
| 23:17.49 | nevcairiel | Tuller: unpossible |
| 23:18.00 | nevcairiel | nils change back to default |
| 23:18.14 | Shirik | What if I want default nil? |
| 23:18.27 | nevcairiel | then dont define a default at all :P |
| 23:18.41 | Shirik | unacceptable |
| 23:18.43 | Shirik | it must be more complicated |
| 23:19.45 | batrick | defining a default to be a nil seems clear to me |
| 23:20.45 | Tuller | nevcairiel: http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/3559/wowscrnshot021708181906pe5.jpg :P |
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| 23:20.59 | Tuller | paint by bongos! |
| 23:21.14 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 23:21.46 | Tuller | but yes, defaults, I need a standard setup, then the ability to kill that off, without restoring the defaults |
| 23:22.11 | Tuller | simplest solution is probably to define the defaults whenever the profile is created |
| 23:22.39 | nevcairiel | hm yeah probably best to not use AceDB profiles, but import yourself on creation |
| 23:24.17 | nevcairiel | s/profiles/defaults/ |
| 23:24.22 | nevcairiel | shouldnt type while tanking |
| 23:24.55 | Tuller | yeah, I have to think, don't i? :P |
| 23:31.00 | nevcairiel | thinking is an important part of programming |
| 23:31.01 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 23:31.45 | Shirik | no |
| 23:31.47 | Shirik | you can't think too much |
| 23:31.52 | Shirik | the balmer peak is important |
| 23:32.01 | Cide | aye |
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| 23:32.26 | Shirik | Iriel has mutated such that he now has glands that regulate balmer peak levels of BAC |
| 23:32.33 | nevcairiel | but you still need to think somewhat |
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| 23:33.28 | alestane | "You don';t just give a team of programmers a case of whiskey and stand back." |
| 23:33.36 | nevcairiel | now Iriel, where is that fixed DevTools version your promised us? |
| 23:33.45 | Iriel | I just logged in to work on it 8-) |
| 23:33.49 | Iriel | Thus my presence! |
| 23:33.52 | nevcairiel | \o/ |
| 23:38.51 | Iriel | http://www.cheeseplant.org/~daniel/images/Bzzzy.jpg |
| 23:42.18 | Guillotine | wow, the graphics in devtools have greatly improved |
| 23:42.24 | Guillotine | though I don't see what a bee has to do with it |
| 23:42.38 | Iriel | That's the event collector |
| 23:42.45 | Iriel | it's busy collecting the new events |
| 23:43.36 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 23:44.32 | Thrae | Iriel: I've been rattling it around in my head, but I can't seem to figure out how to deal with people changing targets outside of your visibility range, hence tainting a UNIT_TARGET table. There's no event which occurs once your ally comes back into range... |
| 23:45.06 | Iriel | Are you sure that you dont get a UNIT_TARGET fired when they go out of range and no longer have a logical target to you? |
| 23:45.18 | Iriel | and fire a new UNIT_TARGET when they come back into range? |
| 23:45.23 | Thrae | Iriel: Not unless you're targeting them. |
| 23:45.57 | Iriel | Hm, you'd be stuck doing UnitIsVisible polling I guess. |
| 23:46.03 | Iriel | which is somewhat annoying |
| 23:46.40 | Thrae | Iriel: Yeah, that's what I do now. |
| 23:47.07 | Thrae | What the hell is a m2t file... |
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| 23:47.30 | Thrae | MPEG2 transport stream. Huh.... |
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| 23:59.27 | WobWork | Is that the new euphemism? |
| 23:59.45 | Lopeppeppy | Beige. I think I'll paint the ceiling beige. |
