| 00:01.29 | Syzgyn | I love it when my server is the only one to go down |
| 00:02.01 | Shirik | hm, mine just went down too |
| 00:02.04 | Shirik | if that's what you're implying |
| 00:02.52 | Syzgyn | what battlegroup? |
| 00:03.08 | Syzgyn | or server |
| 00:03.52 | Shirik | Drenden |
| 00:03.56 | Shirik | I forget what battlegroup that is |
| 00:04.36 | Syzgyn | Emberstorm |
| 00:04.41 | *** join/#wowi-lounge oreth| (i=18092e56@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5346b9f247160b1b) |
| 00:04.42 | Syzgyn | I'm on Nightfall :\ |
| 00:05.09 | oreth| | Syzgyn: really? |
| 00:05.15 | oreth| | horde or alliance |
| 00:05.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Nightfall? |
| 00:05.27 | Syzgyn | Nightfall BG, Kel'thuzad Server, Alliance |
| 00:05.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Bah, KT |
| 00:05.35 | Syzgyn | :D |
| 00:05.40 | oreth| | Syz: hah me too :P |
| 00:05.46 | Syzgyn | orly? |
| 00:05.51 | oreth| | yarly |
| 00:05.57 | Syzgyn | whats your mains name? |
| 00:06.01 | oreth| | Knikon |
| 00:06.25 | Syzgyn | dunno you :V |
| 00:06.46 | oreth| | I'm the gnomelock that runs around storm wind asking if anyone want sto pet his mr wiggles :\ |
| 00:06.52 | ScytheBlade1 | .... lol |
| 00:07.03 | Syzgyn | hehehe |
| 00:07.10 | Syzgyn | I dont spend alot of time in SW anymore |
| 00:07.21 | Syzgyn | bah, armory is down |
| 00:07.23 | oreth| | Was part of none the wiser for 1.5 years |
| 00:07.36 | Syzgyn | where are ya now? |
| 00:08.02 | oreth| | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:08.08 | oreth| | Nothing ventured |
| 00:08.15 | oreth| | new guild setup by some Real Life friends of mine |
| 00:08.19 | Syzgyn | cool |
| 00:08.25 | oreth| | (all used to be NtW as well) |
| 00:08.40 | Syzgyn | I was in glory and beer for most of pre-BC, now I'm in yawning dogs |
| 00:09.14 | oreth| | GnB has some pretty awesome people in it |
| 00:09.19 | oreth| | dunno yawning dogs :\ |
| 00:09.20 | Syzgyn | had* |
| 00:09.20 | oreth| | http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=jYVkw3jWVyg |
| 00:09.27 | oreth| | ^ best NtW pvp kill ever |
| 00:09.39 | oreth| | s/has/had/ |
| 00:09.46 | Syzgyn | most everyone cool in GnB back then is gone now |
| 00:09.52 | kamdis | oh my http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4665488453&sid=1 |
| 00:10.21 | Syzgyn | kamdis: rofl |
| 00:10.33 | Crysli | hahaha |
| 00:10.52 | Lunessa | *headdesk* |
| 00:11.02 | Lunessa | It's funny, but it makes me hurt too. |
| 00:11.04 | Syzgyn | and thats a pretty funny gank oreth |
| 00:11.06 | kamdis | I can't think of a way to respond that won't come off sounding like Mom. |
| 00:11.19 | Crysli | With custom DogTags it's actually possible. Nobody tell him, though. |
| 00:11.38 | Syzgyn | werent you the guys who would summon people to the STV arena and then gank them? |
| 00:11.46 | oreth| | kamdia: Actually, Blizzard is working on a deal with McMillian text books |
| 00:11.56 | oreth| | Syz: oh yeah |
| 00:12.05 | oreth| | I was the one doing the summoning on most occasions :P |
| 00:12.08 | Syzgyn | hahaha |
| 00:12.19 | oreth| | or, summon to the deepest place out in STV's waters |
| 00:12.21 | oreth| | and watch them drown |
| 00:12.28 | Syzgyn | yeah, that guild was generally considered full of dicks |
| 00:12.37 | Syzgyn | no offense |
| 00:12.41 | oreth| | our motto was |
| 00:12.53 | oreth| | None the Wiser: We don't get even... we ruin you're fucking gaming experience |
| 00:13.02 | oreth| | that was the GMotD for about... 6 months |
| 00:13.19 | Syzgyn | ahahahah |
| 00:13.22 | Syzgyn | explains alot |
| 00:13.44 | oreth| | we had some great raiding/pvpdays |
| 00:13.53 | oreth| | Manwich vs. BrockSamson |
| 00:13.59 | oreth| | those were some EPIC battles |
| 00:14.04 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl |
| 00:14.05 | Syzgyn | is brock still around? |
| 00:14.09 | ScytheBlade1 | He transfered to Doomhammer actually |
| 00:14.11 | ScytheBlade1 | And then died |
| 00:14.14 | ScytheBlade1 | irl |
| 00:14.18 | Syzgyn | >_> |
| 00:14.21 | ScytheBlade1 | (But not really, he just quit playing the game) |
| 00:14.25 | ScytheBlade1 | (<-- is on Doomhammer) |
| 00:14.26 | oreth| | yeah |
| 00:14.44 | oreth| | I dunno if you know the name Manwich |
| 00:14.48 | oreth| | he was the NtW GM for a while |
| 00:14.49 | ScytheBlade1 | I do not |
| 00:15.01 | oreth| | I got to have a few beers with him one enight |
| 00:15.03 | Syzgyn | I remember seeing him in searing gorge once, and me and at least 6 other people all chasing him down |
| 00:15.06 | oreth| | cool guy, real mellow |
| 00:15.30 | oreth| | but yeah |
| 00:15.31 | Crysli | Playing on a carebear server == fail |
| 00:15.41 | oreth| | yeah |
| 00:15.42 | Syzgyn | ^ |
| 00:15.43 | Crysli | I haven't been ganked once. |
| 00:15.58 | oreth| | Crysli: you're not trying hard enough |
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| 00:16.15 | Crysli | Yes I am. I had PvP enabled running around STV for two hours. |
| 00:16.28 | oreth| | i think my most righteous gank was after being camped by this tauren hunter for 30 minutes |
| 00:16.30 | Crysli | Oh well. |
| 00:16.38 | oreth| | i rezzed INSIDE of him and wailed on him |
| 00:16.43 | Syzgyn | haha |
| 00:16.50 | Syzgyn | gnomes ftw eh? |
| 00:16.51 | ScytheBlade1 | As a gnome, I do that often |
| 00:16.54 | oreth| | yeah |
| 00:17.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Rez inside someone, poly, nuke |
| 00:17.24 | oreth| | there was also some bitch alliance who watched me get ganked by horde |
| 00:17.33 | oreth| | then whispered me "they r my frinz" |
| 00:17.38 | Crysli | Rofl |
| 00:17.39 | Syzgyn | hahaha |
| 00:17.49 | Syzgyn | there are sooooooo many chobs on kel |
| 00:17.51 | oreth| | so, I found him a few days later in tanaris, he was doing the elemental quests |
| 00:17.58 | oreth| | he pulled an elemental |
| 00:18.00 | oreth| | and I banished it |
| 00:18.07 | Syzgyn | kek |
| 00:18.11 | oreth| | so he pulled another, i banished it |
| 00:18.16 | oreth| | (the other went un banished) |
| 00:18.30 | oreth| | and before he knew what was happening, he was getting raped by 3 elementals |
| 00:18.34 | oreth| | it was very satisfying |
| 00:18.41 | Syzgyn | win |
| 00:18.45 | Crysli | Nothing like letting mobs do the ganking. |
| 00:18.54 | oreth| | so, yeah, i belong in NtW :P |
| 00:19.13 | Syzgyn | I've done that before |
| 00:19.17 | oreth| | i hardly actually play anymore |
| 00:19.31 | Syzgyn | chase people around, let them aggro 3+ mobs, and get em to 5% health |
| 00:19.31 | oreth| | i'll get on, pvp a bit, but mostly i just develope |
| 00:19.34 | oreth| | my wife, on the other hand... |
| 00:19.45 | Crysli | I have more /played time on my UI alt than my main 8D |
| 00:19.47 | oreth| | she's raiding kara tonight |
| 00:19.49 | Syzgyn | lol |
| 00:19.53 | cog|work | oreth|: same here |
| 00:19.58 | oreth| | on valentine's day |
| 00:20.02 | Syzgyn | hardcore |
| 00:20.03 | Crysli | That's romantic. |
| 00:20.31 | Antiarc | I got my now-wife a black whelpling for valentines once |
| 00:20.34 | Antiarc | She -loved- it. |
| 00:20.42 | Antiarc | So yay for closet-nerd significant others |
| 00:20.48 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl |
| 00:20.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Win |
| 00:20.57 | oreth| | now-wife? |
| 00:21.03 | Antiarc | Yes, I'm married :P |
| 00:21.05 | Syzgyn | I dont think it'd be possible to get more played time than my main |
| 00:21.07 | ScytheBlade1 | As in, was not then wifr |
| 00:21.10 | ScytheBlade1 | *wife |
| 00:21.13 | oreth| | ahh |
| 00:21.14 | Antiarc | As in, was then-girlfriend |
| 00:21.15 | Syzgyn | 148days :\ |
| 00:21.26 | oreth| | my wife wants an azure whelpling for her birthday |
| 00:21.32 | oreth| | which is NEXT FRIDAY |
| 00:21.34 | ScytheBlade1 | oreth|: HAHA |
| 00:21.37 | oreth| | i don't think i can raise the cash :( |
| 00:21.38 | Syzgyn | good luck with that! |
| 00:21.48 | Syzgyn | farm it! |
| 00:21.55 | cog|work | my wife accidentally got a crimson whelpling her first time wandering through the wetlands :'( |
| 00:22.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Start farming :D |
| 00:22.02 | Syzgyn | you're a warlock, the mobs are level 40-50 |
| 00:22.05 | Syzgyn | EZ |
| 00:22.16 | oreth| | where are they? |
| 00:22.17 | Syzgyn | cog|: ouch D: |
| 00:22.19 | Syzgyn | azshara |
| 00:22.20 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34535 |
| 00:22.24 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ there |
| 00:22.30 | oreth| | she's a holy pally |
| 00:22.34 | oreth| | she's been farming for one |
| 00:22.40 | oreth| | but... she can't drop them fast |
| 00:22.51 | Syzgyn | again, WARLOCK! |
| 00:22.54 | oreth| | <3 |
| 00:23.45 | oreth| | i dunno |
| 00:23.56 | oreth| | the idea of WoW really disgusts me anymore |
| 00:24.03 | oreth| | i love coding fo rit |
| 00:24.07 | |pez| | ... some people have too much time on their hands... boyfriend just showed me a article of someone who made a life-size version of a mclaren F1 car... made with MATCHES! |
| 00:24.26 | oreth| | but the idea of actually playing bores me |
| 00:24.43 | oreth| | Of course, I'll buy the expansion, and meander my way through the levels |
| 00:24.56 | Lunessa | http://i26.tinypic.com/153vbdx.png - pretty, but wouldn't work for me. |
| 00:25.00 | Syzgyn | *shrug* I raid somewhat hardcore, so theres still alot for me to do |
| 00:25.08 | Cide | |pez|: where? |
| 00:25.10 | oreth| | i've run kara... once |
| 00:25.18 | oreth| | and we never got passed the curator |
| 00:25.24 | Syzgyn | :( |
| 00:25.44 | Syzgyn | Lunessa: no way that'd work for me either |
| 00:26.00 | |pez| | Cide: norwegian article at dingz.no |
| 00:26.02 | Lunessa | I click too much. |
| 00:26.07 | Cide | I'm swedish |
| 00:26.13 | |pez| | Oho |
| 00:26.15 | Cide | but I can't see a link |
| 00:26.19 | oreth| | i guess i could farm thaat welpling |
| 00:26.29 | oreth| | statsitcs say, 1 in 1000 mobs should drop it |
| 00:26.31 | Cide | but I found it |
| 00:26.31 | Cide | thanks |
| 00:26.32 | Syzgyn | I just like being able to see alot of info |
| 00:26.41 | oreth| | and 1000 mobs is like... 2 mana biscuits |
| 00:26.41 | |pez| | Ah, ok ^^ |
| 00:26.51 | Crysli | That's a nice UI. |
| 00:27.03 | oreth| | but then again, i wanna finish my addon |
| 00:27.13 | Syzgyn | what addon? |
| 00:27.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, so, is there any way to tell from the GUID alone if something is a player vs. NPC? |
| 00:27.25 | kd3 | what the... |
| 00:27.34 | |pez| | for anyone else wanting a picture.. http://www.media.allerinternett.no/php/obj.phpi?d=x2&o=2544020&w=567&h=0&ee=1202978709 |
| 00:27.37 | kd3 | "base/World/maps/Sunwell5ManFix" |
| 00:27.39 | Syzgyn | ScytheBlade1: I believe so |
| 00:28.04 | Syzgyn | let me see if I can find it again |
| 00:28.34 | kd3 | lol. they added Tuskarr models this latest push |
| 00:28.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Syzgyn: I know you should be able to from the flags... and the GUID looks like you can, but the documentation is unclear |
| 00:28.51 | Syzgyn | right, you definitely can from flags |
| 00:29.04 | Syzgyn | some post had a basic breakdown of the GUID, trying to find it |
| 00:29.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh that post |
| 00:29.40 | Syzgyn | where its like [xxxx][yyyyyy][zzzzzz] |
| 00:29.59 | ScytheBlade1 | 2H |
| 00:30.00 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968233433&sid=1&pageNo=16#311 |
| 00:30.11 | Syzgyn | yeah, just found it |
| 00:30.39 | ScytheBlade1 | That doesn't really make a player vs. NPC distinction though |
| 00:30.51 | Syzgyn | so something like tonumber(string.sub(GUID,6,12),16)) would give you the NPC ID |
| 00:30.54 | Syzgyn | if its 0, its a player |
| 00:31.03 | Antiarc | PTRs are up\ |
| 00:31.05 | Syzgyn | yay! |
| 00:31.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Syzgyn: are we SURE of that though? |
| 00:31.26 | Syzgyn | no |
| 00:31.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah that's my question :) |
| 00:31.34 | Syzgyn | but its a start |
| 00:31.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Fair enough |
| 00:31.58 | Syzgyn | I'd bet money that it is, it makes sense |
| 00:32.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm, sec |
| 00:32.54 | oreth| | so what does the PTR mean for me, as a developer? |
| 00:33.01 | kd3 | oh wow |
| 00:33.03 | Syzgyn | new code? |
| 00:33.04 | kd3 | redid the island |
| 00:33.12 | kd3 | there's a new building now |
| 00:33.12 | Syzgyn | oh? |
| 00:33.16 | oreth| | new API calls and stuff? |
| 00:33.42 | Syzgyn | yes |
| 00:33.49 | Syzgyn | the whole new combat log |
| 00:33.49 | kd3 | if you're a mod author and have mods that interact with the combat log, you'll probably want to log on to deal with the combat log changes |
| 00:33.53 | Syzgyn | and GUID stuff |
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| 00:34.10 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm on the PTR now next to the new guilding |
| 00:34.15 | ScytheBlade1 | With a guild charter ;) |
| 00:34.16 | ScytheBlade1 | wtb signatures |
| 00:34.23 | Syzgyn | anything that looks at the combat log for anything is going to have to be updated for 2.4 |
| 00:34.27 | Syzgyn | PvE scythe? |
| 00:34.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Character name is Sboo |
| 00:34.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes, alliance side |
| 00:34.42 | Syzgyn | I'll whisper you in a sec |
| 00:34.48 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:34.53 | Syzgyn | ok |
| 00:35.21 | Syzgyn | DC'd D: |
| 00:35.22 | Lunessa | Jebus - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23171567?GT1=10856 - guildee's daughter was at this school |
| 00:35.32 | Shirik | (19:34:45) -› [notice from ChanServ]: You do not have channel operator access to [#devnull] |
| 00:35.32 | Shirik | (19:34:45) -› ChanServ (-o) Shirik |
| 00:35.34 | Shirik | :< |
| 00:35.37 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 00:35.38 | Syzgyn | lol |
| 00:36.37 | Syzgyn | kd3: oh I see what you mean |
| 00:37.10 | Syzgyn | think that will be there from the start, or just after the first upgrade? |
| 00:38.32 | ScytheBlade1 | wtb more signatures! |
| 00:38.49 | kd3 | no clue |
| 00:39.01 | kd3 | they changed the map around with this 34MB push |
| 00:39.32 | Crysli | I should go to bed. |
| 00:39.45 | Crysli | But I won't. |
| 00:40.10 | Shirik | !! |
| 00:40.15 | Shirik | damn it! |
| 00:40.18 | Shirik | Chanserv was just slow |
| 00:40.32 | Shirik | I thought I got around it and got op at #devnull lol |
| 00:40.56 | Shirik | what is that channel anyway? |
| 00:41.06 | Shirik | I mean I get the /dev/null reference but I expected people to be there |
| 00:41.08 | Crysli | Can anyone link me some info about what HTML 5.0 brings? |
| 00:41.14 | ScytheBlade1 | ... in WoW, PTR I meant ;) |
| 00:41.26 | Shirik | Crysli: Google "pain and suffering" |
| 00:41.27 | Syzgyn | bah, only 16% done |
| 00:42.13 | Crysli | Shirik: DOne. Good documentation, but I think I'm going to need something written for the average coder =D |
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| 00:43.10 | kd3 | awesome. they fixed the arcane guardian collection quest |
| 00:44.04 | Syzgyn | fixed? |
| 00:44.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: hit up SW, I'm there now |
| 00:44.36 | kd3 | use the item and they instantly get deployed. no more dragging them around half the map |
| 00:44.46 | Syzgyn | haha |
| 00:45.01 | Antiarc | ScytheBlade1: OMW |
| 00:45.34 | art3mis | awesopme |
| 00:45.42 | art3mis | guess whos playing at the bowery ballroom tomorrow? |
| 00:46.06 | art3mis | Richard Cheese! |
| 00:47.16 | Syzgyn | hahaha |
| 00:48.07 | art3mis | he rules ;P |
| 00:48.20 | ScytheBlade1 | wtb 5 more signatures, US PvE alliance side |
| 00:48.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Sitting in Shatt |
| 00:50.05 | Guillotine | Programming in AV time! |
| 00:50.13 | Crysli | Hooray! |
| 00:50.27 | Guillotine | this weekend is the ultimate programming weekend |
| 00:50.30 | Guillotine | AV weekend :D |
| 00:50.33 | Syzgyn | someone put together a good post on wowhead about all the quests you unlock on IQD |
| 00:50.52 | Syzgyn | http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=11532 |
| 00:51.33 | Crysli | You know, if half the people who AFK'ed in Av were AFK'ing because they wree coding... Imagine! |
| 00:51.51 | Syzgyn | haha |
| 00:52.21 | Wobin_ | I'll go stealth into a mines |
| 00:52.29 | Wobin_ | and 'defend' it |
| 00:52.50 | Guillotine | I defend IB GY |
| 00:52.58 | Guillotine | I just have it open in the background |
| 00:53.05 | Guillotine | and actually attack people if they start claiming |
| 00:53.05 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+v Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 00:53.11 | Guillotine | I've actually saved several games like that |
| 00:53.19 | Crysli | That's some sucky AFK'ing. |
| 00:53.24 | Wobin_ | s'true |
| 00:53.30 | Wobin_ | You need to try harder |
| 00:53.47 | Guillotine | see, I want to actually help the team (besides the AddOns that will eventually help them) |
| 00:53.52 | Guillotine | also, I buff |
| 00:53.55 | Guillotine | at the beginning |
| 00:54.14 | art3mis | uh huh suuuuure you do |
| 00:54.22 | Guillotine | really! |
| 00:54.26 | Crysli | Right |
| 00:54.29 | Guillotine | when i buff people with fort, I can heal them to full |
| 00:54.34 | Guillotine | that way it looks like I have lots of healing |
| 00:54.41 | Guillotine | so nobody thinks I'm AFK |
| 00:55.01 | Guillotine | sad thing is, I've finished with top healing for all of alliance, just by buffing everyone with fort and healing them to full at the beginning |
| 00:55.15 | Crysli | Sounds like Alliance alright |
| 00:55.20 | Guillotine | yup |
| 00:55.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow |
| 00:55.31 | ScytheBlade1 | The first boss is 75% opened |
| 00:56.12 | Crysli | "Doctor! Dilation is at 75%" "Aha, it's 75% opened!" |
| 00:56.18 | Crysli | ...I really need to go to bed. |
| 00:56.21 | ScytheBlade1 | ... lol |
| 00:57.16 | Stanzilla | ScytheBlade1: the second boss is at 3% on the EU PTR :P |
| 00:57.22 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
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| 00:59.26 | Crysli | Whew, finally done with unitframe positioning. Now it's time to work on the action bars. |
| 00:59.55 | kd3 | lol, some kara music too |
| 01:03.45 | Shirik | I have determined Natasha Bedingfield cannot lip sync, nor is she an actotr |
| 01:03.50 | Shirik | s/otr/or/ |
| 01:03.56 | Shirik | but she's a great singer |
| 01:05.48 | Kaso | if shes a great singer why is she even attempting to lip sync? |
| 01:06.02 | Wobin_ | Cause you can't bend over backwards and do flips while singing? |
| 01:06.15 | Syzgyn | maybe *you* cant |
| 01:06.27 | Wobin_ | I can barely breath when bent over backwards |
| 01:06.40 | Syzgyn | heh |
| 01:06.41 | Kaso | well then if its impossible to sing like that ,why is she pretending she can, it defies the laws of reality |
| 01:06.58 | Shirik | Kaso: That's how they do music videos, really |
| 01:07.12 | Shirik | it's the easiest thing to do |
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| 01:08.03 | Kaso | pop music videos always suck imo |
| 01:08.22 | Kaso | I like music videos that dont feature the artists whatsoever, videos that have their own plot etc |
| 01:09.04 | Shirik | me too :) |
| 01:09.09 | Shirik | like Amaranth |
| 01:09.57 | Wobin_ | http://bp0.blogger.com/_ovcwlZjasJo/Rfp1XlGWQFI/AAAAAAAAACs/9ppwQWqQUKA/s1600-h/madgeelton02.jpg |
| 01:10.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh hot |
| 01:10.54 | ScytheBlade1 | They added a flight path from IF straight to the isle |
| 01:11.10 | kd3 | directly to it? what's the traveltime down to? |
| 01:11.16 | ScytheBlade1 | WHOA |
| 01:11.22 | ScytheBlade1 | It ported me STRAIGHT from IF to Ghostlands |
| 01:11.27 | ScytheBlade1 | On a bird |
| 01:11.31 | Wobin_ | T minus 1 second |
| 01:11.33 | kd3 | insanity |
| 01:11.38 | kd3 | they've got summoning stones now |
| 01:11.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Testing, probably |
| 01:11.42 | ScytheBlade1 | But yes insanity |
| 01:11.42 | kd3 | one at each instance line |
| 01:11.45 | Wobin_ | I don't see why not tbh |
| 01:12.02 | Wobin_ | If they want people to test stuff, why make it problematic to travel there? |
| 01:12.03 | Crysli | Well, I'm going to hit the hay. |
| 01:12.07 | kd3 | if both factions can teleport players dead or alive into battlegrounds, why not a teleport to ghostlands? |
| 01:12.35 | Crysli | Have fun everyone! |
| 01:12.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Night |
| 01:12.51 | ScytheBlade1 | And yeah, I took a bird out of IF and then noticed a loading screen |
| 01:12.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Then appeared in Ghostlands |
| 01:13.03 | Kaso | my favoret ever music video is The White Stripes - Fell In Love With A Girl |
| 01:13.13 | Kaso | also weapon of choice by fatboy slim |
| 01:13.18 | Tem|AFK | Standard escape sequence for form feed? |
| 01:13.29 | Wobin_ | weapon of choice rocks |
| 01:13.33 | Tem|AFK | '\r' is carrieage return, right? |
| 01:13.47 | Wobin_ | actually I like "Love's a mess" by Gotye |
| 01:14.02 | Lunessa | http://www.jonathancoulton.com/mp3/Big%20Bad%20World%20One.mp3 |
| 01:14.13 | Wobin_ | er heart |
| 01:14.25 | Wobin_ | http://youtube.com/watch?v=S_CM5-gel6o |
| 01:14.34 | Wobin_ | but mostly cause I like Gotye's music |
| 01:14.35 | Kaso | Tem|AFK correct |
| 01:14.43 | ScytheBlade1 | They fixed the water on the flight path too |
| 01:14.51 | ScytheBlade1 | No more incredibly broken patches of invisible water |
| 01:15.05 | kd3 | nice. wonder if they fixed the nagrand Shattered Sun quest yet? |
| 01:15.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Dunno, I'm flying back up there, logging, deleting my combat log, and then starting it up again |
| 01:15.28 | kd3 | whee, crashed wow |
| 01:15.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Though I could check it out on my second account.. |
| 01:15.35 | ScytheBlade1 | But I'm lazy :) |
| 01:15.45 | Kaso | form feed is 0xF, im not sure of escape sequence for it |
| 01:15.58 | Shirik | is there an addon that lets you try stuff on (that you don't have, but have the link to, ex.) to check stats? |
| 01:16.18 | art3mis | Is She Really Going Out With Him - Joe Jackson |
| 01:16.31 | Shirik | Tem|AFK: not form feed |
| 01:16.37 | Shirik | line feed |
| 01:16.43 | Shirik | oh wait I see what you're asking |
| 01:16.53 | Shirik | Sorry :) Just use \xF, that's the only one I'm aware of |
| 01:18.01 | Kaso | i find the ascii control chars a real insight into how they were thinking back then |
| 01:18.23 | Kaso | Really stuck in the electronic typewriter mindset |
| 01:18.27 | Shirik | yup |
| 01:18.57 | Shirik | I just want to know who the hell designed the RS-232 standard, and who decided it would be really cool to break that standard |
| 01:18.59 | Shirik | so I can kill them all |
| 01:19.27 | art3mis | same people that decided that floppydrives have 34 pins but only use 14 of them |
| 01:19.33 | Shirik | that makes sense |
| 01:19.41 | Shirik | a good engineer always leaves room for expansion :) |
| 01:19.47 | art3mis | laugh |
| 01:19.51 | Shirik | But ok, here's my problems that I'm facing right now, all at once: |
| 01:19.53 | art3mis | ive watched them since 89 |
| 01:20.02 | art3mis | and ive NEVER seen a "better" floppy drive ;P |
| 01:20.16 | art3mis | hell the superdrives they came out with still only used 14 pins |
| 01:20.57 | Shirik | (1) RS-232 uses logic levels of about +/- 8V. It is very difficult for me to produce those levels because I'm running on a standard 5V system, just like EVERY OTHER MINI-COMPUTER. I'd need an extra device to produce (a) something over 5V, and (b) a negative voltage |
| 01:21.11 | Kaso | arent any of them grounding pins? |
| 01:21.47 | Shirik | (2) Whoever decided to violate the standard by making "TTL Logic Level Serial" decided it would be cool to put the high level (0V) at a "no-mans" voltage for RS-232 so it isn't compatible with RS-232, EVEN THOUGH THAT'S THE DEVICES IT WAS MADE FOR |
| 01:22.18 | Shirik | (3) Whoever decided to make logic level serial decided it would be even better to invert the logic, making a 1 low and a 0 high, AGAIN, THE OPPOSITE OF RS-232! |
| 01:23.20 | Shirik | (4) Whoever decided to invert this logic ALSO decided a "no signal" should be a HIGH signal, so if you want to put two transmitting devices on the same line, THEY BOTH OUTPUT 5V when not transmitting, thus making 0V unreachable |
| 01:23.34 | art3mis | shirik they had to alter the voltage on it because at the time serial was used primarily for data transmissions between modems and required the parity to remain constant, not to mention have the overhead ability to deal with fcc mandated shocktroops |
| 01:23.35 | Kaso | it does seem slightly retarded differing from the 0v/5v standard. |
| 01:23.45 | Kaso | Im not familar with that standard, what ar you working with? |
| 01:24.08 | Shirik | So, then, 6 transistors, 2 op amps, and 5 resistors later I finally got it together to have the devices communicate |
| 01:24.20 | Shirik | Kaso: Standard 9-pin serial |
| 01:24.55 | Shirik | I have two devices I need to put on the same serial line that use TTL Logic Level Serial |
| 01:25.05 | Shirik | the PC-104 they communicate with, on the other hand, uses RS-232 standard serial |
| 01:25.34 | Shirik | but I love it anyway, I love a challenge |
| 01:26.00 | batrick | man |
| 01:26.11 | batrick | lua does it's vm instructions in an odd way |
| 01:26.34 | batrick | i found an exploit but it's fucking hell writing the opcode correctly |
| 01:26.53 | Shirik | op = read(pc) data = translate(op, pc+1); execute(op, data) ? |
| 01:26.58 | Shirik | That's how I'd do it >.> |
| 01:27.12 | batrick | the format is annoying :( |
| 01:29.27 | art3mis | This is a zany and hilarious movie from the makers of other zany and hilarious movies like AIRPLANE! and the Naked Gun series. If you are a fan of crazy comedies, you know, the ones where you find yourself laughing hysterically and your friend/partner gives you the “Huh?” look, then pure fun is in store! |
| 01:29.38 | art3mis | best Top Secret Description evah |
| 01:30.14 | Shirik | ok, some free time, so what do I work on |
| 01:30.18 | Shirik | robot that was due today, or conspiracy |
| 01:30.21 | Shirik | or something else |
| 01:30.37 | art3mis | work on iggy katowski's socks!@ |
| 01:32.06 | Shirik | hm |
| 01:32.16 | Shirik | In Linux, does anyone know how to get the PC of a given program? |
| 01:32.21 | Shirik | Surely it's possible if debuggers can do it |
| 01:32.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Get the PC? |
| 01:32.31 | Shirik | program counter |
| 01:32.43 | Shirik | ah, I guess they call it something different in IA32 |
| 01:32.44 | Shirik | IP maybe? |
| 01:32.45 | Corrodias | any idea if 2.4 fixes the "Kill Command Lock" bug? |
| 01:32.48 | Shirik | instruction pointer? |
| 01:32.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, I'm not that technical. ;) |
| 01:32.57 | Shirik | the current address of the instruction being executed |
| 01:33.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: check /proc/{pid}/* - see if it's in there |
| 01:33.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah |
| 01:33.18 | ScytheBlade1 | No clue |
| 01:33.21 | Shirik | no not pid >< |
| 01:33.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, I know now :) |
| 01:33.58 | Corrodias | my Kill Command is stuck "on", despite not being a togglable ability |
| 01:34.12 | Corrodias | i can't open the escape menu, autoattack, or feed my pet |
| 01:35.01 | Shirik | wtf? |
| 01:35.06 | Shirik | did they remove debug.exe from vista? |
| 01:36.48 | Corrodias | no idea |
| 01:37.01 | art3mis | its called dr.watson ;P |
| 01:37.07 | Corrodias | my kill command only unlocks and lets me proceed normally if i score a crit with arcane/steady/other shots |
| 01:38.11 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: |
| 01:38.14 | Shirik | EAX 7EFD7000 ECX 00000000 EDX 7775D894 ntdll.DbgUiRemoteBreakin |
| 01:38.14 | Shirik | EBX 00000000 ESP 02D7FF74 EBP 02D7FFA0 |
| 01:38.14 | Shirik | ESI 00000000 EDI 00000000 EIP 77700005 ntdll.77700005 |
| 01:38.14 | Shirik | CPAZSTDO LastErr: ERROR_SUCCESS (00000000) |
| 01:38.14 | Shirik | 01010000 EFL 00000246 (NO, NB, E, BE, NS, PE, GE, LE) |
| 01:38.15 | Shirik | that stuff |
| 01:38.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, maybe, sec |
| 01:38.23 | Shirik | according to that it's called "EIP" |
| 01:39.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: yeah, sorry, not sure |
| 01:39.12 | kd3 | whee, found my first bug with the updated combat log. herbing a mana thistle: "Mana Thistle energizes [You] 1074 ($powerType). |
| 01:39.12 | *** join/#wowi-lounge ckknight (n=ckknight@adsl-71-141-115-138.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 01:39.14 | Shirik | It's ok :) |
| 01:39.42 | sysrage | oh ya. how's that new combat log? |
| 01:39.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Sexy |
| 01:40.00 | ScytheBlade1 | This last patch helped a LOT |
| 01:40.15 | ScytheBlade1 | It's still semi-broken though, but, all in time |
| 01:40.35 | batrick | Shirik: you can do it with inline assembly |
| 01:40.43 | Shirik | I can't modify the program |
| 01:40.49 | Shirik | if that's what you're insinuating |
| 01:40.51 | batrick | well then you're screwed :) |
| 01:40.56 | art3mis | kevin spencer |
| 01:41.02 | Wobin | I thought you gave ck a shell, batrick =P |
| 01:41.02 | Shirik | Surely it must be possible, how do you think a debugger works? |
| 01:41.03 | *** join/#wowi-lounge ckknight (n=ckknight@adsl-71-141-115-138.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 01:41.08 | art3mis | hes a change smoking alcoholic socio-path |
| 01:41.11 | batrick | Wobin: i did he's not using it |
| 01:41.22 | Shirik | Wobin: batrick gave ME a shell |
| 01:41.25 | Shirik | that was the worst decision he ever made |
| 01:41.30 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 01:41.41 | batrick | don't forget internet connections are two way :) |
| 01:41.43 | art3mis | chmod 4755 /usr/bin/time ;P |
| 01:41.55 | Shirik | what are you going to go back through my ssh connection and kill me? :P |
| 01:42.02 | batrick | no |
| 01:42.11 | Wobin | batrick has developed a program to stab people over the internet |
| 01:42.17 | Shirik | oh damn |
| 01:42.19 | art3mis | *boot to the head* |
| 01:42.20 | Wobin | he's currently rolling in the bags of cash he has acquired |
| 01:42.51 | Shirik | imo batrick should moduser -G -a shirik wheel |
| 01:42.54 | Wobin | PS http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/nethervortexgeras.jpg |
| 01:42.58 | Wobin | omg <3<3<3<3<3 |
| 01:43.23 | batrick | Shirik: debuggers can insert breaks anywhere they want and look at the program counter |
| 01:43.30 | Shirik | that's acceptable to me |
| 01:43.30 | batrick | lots of cool stuff they can do :) |
| 01:43.45 | Shirik | I just need some kind of solution to get the PC of a program |
| 01:43.55 | Shirik | I'll poke gdb's source I guess |
| 01:44.30 | art3mis | you should already love and hug gdb every night |
| 01:44.43 | art3mis | the fact you never used it til last week is still a shock to me |
| 01:44.54 | Shirik | gdb's still kinda meh to me |
| 01:45.00 | Shirik | a bit rough to use |
| 01:45.00 | art3mis | gdb is a god thing |
| 01:45.04 | art3mis | you take that back |
| 01:45.10 | Shirik | nevar! |
| 01:45.14 | art3mis | god uses gdb to debug the universe |
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| 01:45.29 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+v Lopeppeppy] by ChanServ |
| 01:45.39 | art3mis | he's using it to debug chrisitians right now to see where they went wrong ;P |
| 01:45.50 | art3mis | christians |
| 01:45.54 | Guillotine | god wrote the universe in lolcode |
| 01:45.58 | art3mis | hrm that looks wrong for some reason |
| 01:46.05 | art3mis | lies |
| 01:46.10 | art3mis | he wrote it in lisp ;P |
| 01:46.35 | kd3 | bah. lolcode I could take. but lisp? /wrists |
| 01:46.53 | art3mis | xkcd |
| 01:47.34 | Corrodias | apparently, according to this thread, the kill command sticking bug is pretty common lately |
| 01:47.57 | Guillotine | while I admit xkcd > all, evidence suggests the universe could only be written in lolcode |
| 01:48.21 | Lunessa | lisp makes me want to cut myself too... and I've been dealing with it a loooooong time. |
| 01:48.25 | Shirik | lies |
| 01:48.27 | Shirik | it was written in Java |
| 01:48.30 | Shirik | that's why it's so slow |
| 01:48.33 | Wobin | I HAS A GALAXY |
| 01:49.02 | Syzgyn | http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/259/1202666100024xy5.jpg <-- oh fuck, its the internet |
| 01:49.05 | Lopeppeppy | I made you a galaxy, but I eated it. |
| 01:49.10 | Shirik | do they really have to be racing at 9PM? |
| 01:49.15 | Shirik | Like what's even running on thursday anyway |
| 01:49.21 | Shirik | fking race week |
| 01:49.23 | art3mis | http://xkcd.com/312/ |
| 01:49.51 | Wobin | Syzgyn: I have to admit, for a rally, Anonymous -totally- rocked |
| 01:50.25 | Wobin | It was like the Interwebs in real life |
| 01:50.40 | Guillotine | I'm still not sure what to think about Anonymous. Some seem to use it for good purposes, some for bad |
| 01:50.47 | Wobin | with enough V for Vengeance to make it classy |
| 01:51.00 | Kaso | Its being used for a good purpose atm. so thats good enough for me |
| 01:51.30 | Wobin | *points to the left* "HORSE!" *points to the right* "CULT!" |
| 01:52.04 | Kaso | hopefully the 15th march will be even better |
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| 01:52.16 | Guillotine | Kaso: people are still using it to harass people online though |
| 01:52.21 | Wobin | http://deathboy.livejournal.com/1082404.html |
| 01:52.34 | Syzgyn | Wobin: I read the best opinion on the anonymous stuff |
| 01:52.46 | Wobin | whereabouts? |
| 01:52.58 | Syzgyn | It went: It's the scum of the internet vs a cult. Whoever loses is good for the rest of us |
| 01:53.06 | Wobin | It's true |
| 01:53.34 | Kaso | Well its not like anon is some orgnisation that can be controlled, if some of them want to waste time and energy harrasing people online whatever, but the vast majority are currently on target, and acting very responcable |
| 01:53.50 | Kaso | they'll always be die hard /b/tards |
| 01:53.51 | art3mis | http://www.explosm.net/comics/1176/ |
| 01:53.56 | art3mis | c&h == awesome |
| 01:54.09 | Kaso | that is awesome |
| 01:54.13 | art3mis | and by that i mean calvin and hobbes AND cyanide and happiness |
| 01:54.19 | Wobin | indeed |
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| 01:54.58 | Kaso | just listening to what people like Tory Magoo, Mark bunker and Arnie Lerma are saying about anon's action is enough to make you well up in tears (in a good way) |
| 01:55.00 | kd3 | WTF!? |
| 01:55.08 | kd3 | how the hell did SCO wind up with another 100M? |
| 01:55.16 | Wobin | Leprechauns |
| 01:55.20 | Syzgyn | o.O |
| 01:55.30 | Wobin | clearly |
| 01:55.56 | Syzgyn | Thelaw crits SCO for 2000 |
| 01:56.01 | Syzgyn | SCO gains Cheat Death |
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| 01:58.11 | art3mis | http://www.neophilia.de/onlinehome/calvin/war.gif |
| 01:58.34 | Kaso | Wobin, its amusing how many of the crowd dont know the "full" lyrics to bel-air |
| 01:58.45 | Kaso | everyone is just silent |
| 01:58.52 | Wobin | Kaso: It's the internet duh |
| 01:58.58 | art3mis | http://www.thegreenhead.com/imgs/Complete-Calvin-Hobbes-2.jpg <-- my wife bought me this for xmas a few years ago... i love her |
| 01:59.03 | Wobin | Without direct access to google, our IQ drops 100 points |
| 01:59.12 | Kaso | haha |
| 01:59.35 | Kaso | its true, with 4seconds i could get the lyrics with google |
| 01:59.52 | Wobin | art3mis: oh man, how much is that? |
| 01:59.53 | Kaso | have you seen this one; its a good overview of the whole thing, like 15min long http://www.dailymotion.com/SA-Anonymous/video/7341208 |
| 02:00.37 | art3mis | http://www.benzilla.com/upload_images/7_6588.jpg |
| 02:00.40 | art3mis | it was 130$ |
| 02:00.47 | art3mis | but its EVERY c&h |
| 02:00.59 | Wobin | <.< |
| 02:01.01 | Wobin | >.> |
| 02:01.01 | art3mis | the entire strip every book and bill's notes and random sketches |
| 02:01.09 | Wobin | I have a zipfile with the entire C&H colleciton |
| 02:01.19 | art3mis | its an amazing book |
| 02:01.26 | art3mis | ive got the farside collection leather bound too |
| 02:01.39 | art3mis | two staples from my childhood that will remain timeless forever |
| 02:01.47 | Antiarc | C&H and Far Side defined my childhood. |
| 02:01.52 | Antiarc | I have the complete collections, too |
| 02:01.54 | Wobin | It totally did |
| 02:01.57 | Antiarc | I can't wait for my kids to get to enjoy them |
| 02:01.58 | biglulz | can someone confirm that UnitXP("player") doesn't work on PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD or PLAYER_LEAVING_WORLD |
| 02:02.02 | biglulz | (C&H was great) |
| 02:02.19 | art3mis | bill waterson was a genius |
| 02:02.23 | biglulz | he's deaD? |
| 02:02.29 | Antiarc | Just retired/in hiding |
| 02:02.31 | art3mis | he stopped doing comics |
| 02:02.36 | art3mis | and hdies out in maine |
| 02:02.38 | art3mis | hides |
| 02:02.43 | biglulz | ah |
| 02:02.45 | Wobin | I would find him |
| 02:02.45 | Antiarc | He's a really reclusive guy |
| 02:02.47 | Wobin | and give him a hug |
| 02:02.53 | oreth | Rumor has it he stopped making comics to mod for a popular mmo |
| 02:02.55 | art3mis | appearantly he's soo good at it that not a single person whos gone looking has ever found him |
| 02:02.59 | Wobin | omg |
| 02:03.04 | Wobin | CKknight, is that YOU? =) |
| 02:03.14 | Antiarc | I've met ckknight. He's no watterson >_> |
| 02:03.15 | Kaso | biglulz, all i know for sure is unitname and unitrealm works before pew, cant you try it and see? |
| 02:03.26 | Antiarc | If ckknight did C&H, it would be a bunch of BSDM and your mom jokes :P |
| 02:03.33 | oreth | ok |
| 02:03.42 | oreth | so ckknight_ is Teh Kurtz? |
| 02:03.44 | biglulz | well, im new to UI modding |
| 02:03.45 | Wobin | It's true |
| 02:03.49 | biglulz | i was thinking maybe i'm doing something wrong |
| 02:04.15 | biglulz | i am getting 0 values for it and rested XP when on those events |
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| 02:04.27 | Nechckn | biglulz I may have a semi-gift in relation to what u are doing... lemme look |
| 02:04.36 | Wobin | hehe |
| 02:04.39 | biglulz | sweet |
| 02:04.40 | Wobin | "Wise Beard Man" |
| 02:04.47 | Kaso | the majority of Unit Functions dont work before PEW |
| 02:04.49 | Wobin | so totally interwebs |
| 02:04.49 | Antiarc | Wise Beard Man is such an internetism |
| 02:05.00 | Antiarc | And yet, at the same time, it's this huge honorary title |
| 02:05.09 | Kaso | Basically the only ones that do, are the ones that are used to display stuff on the realm screen, so unitname unitrealm |
| 02:05.14 | Kaso | thats my understanding |
| 02:05.19 | art3mis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNRQhgS8NAs&eurl=http://www.comicmix.com/news/2008/01/01/hail-and-farewell-far-side/ |
| 02:05.32 | biglulz | what a dirty cludge |
| 02:05.43 | Kaso | why cant you wait till pew? |
| 02:05.55 | biglulz | well, its player leaving that i'm more concerned about |
| 02:06.00 | art3mis | the farside helloween episode! |
| 02:06.20 | Syzgyn | oh wow |
| 02:06.32 | Syzgyn | with the new PTR patch, apparently you can buy nether vortex's for 15 badges |
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| 02:06.47 | Kaso | it should work *on* pew and plw but not before, or after respectively |
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| 02:08.09 | oreth | Hey Antiarc, how's it goin' man? |
| 02:08.23 | Antiarc | Can't complain |
| 02:08.24 | Antiarc | Busy |
| 02:08.33 | oreth | right on. |
| 02:08.38 | Antiarc | yourself? |
| 02:08.41 | Wobin | I have to say |
| 02:08.43 | oreth | Had a production push for BusinessWeek at work today. |
| 02:08.47 | art3mis | Happiness is... |
| 02:08.47 | art3mis | ...learning to play Rook and then teaching it to everyone else |
| 02:08.47 | art3mis | ...Calvin and Hobbes "Sunday Pages: 1985-1995" |
| 02:08.48 | art3mis | ...my dad's favorite joke: "what's the major theological question in Arkansas?...if we get a divorce, are we still cousins?" |
| 02:08.51 | Wobin | They must have made a killing on V masks |
| 02:09.07 | oreth | one of my coworkers who's on the project went on vacation without tellin' anybody what his changesets were... so it was kinda hectic |
| 02:09.37 | oreth | other than that... I can't complain |
| 02:09.49 | Arrowmaster | biglulz: use PLAYER_LOGOUT |
| 02:09.59 | Nechckn | biglulz a bunch of the sort of thing you are looking for from a program that is on hold atm |
| 02:10.05 | Nechckn | biglulz http://dev.norganna.org/watcher/ |
| 02:10.16 | Wobin | ahah |
| 02:10.17 | Nechckn | You should be able to d/l if not let me know |
| 02:10.21 | Wobin | "Ask me about THETANS!" |
| 02:10.37 | Kaso | Wobin, http://nothingbutcostumes.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=7980 Read the Caps lock text |
| 02:10.37 | oreth | created the application in this video: http://menlar.chasesdream.com/images/work/flex/flex_controller.swf designer's wanna do something with it |
| 02:10.49 | oreth | so, i'm kinda stoked about that |
| 02:11.27 | biglulz | thanks neckckn |
| 02:11.35 | Antiarc | "Xenu is my homeboy" is my favorite |
| 02:11.38 | biglulz | isn't there a public svn server? |
| 02:11.44 | biglulz | i dont have access to that one |
| 02:11.50 | oreth | Socientology's closed due to thetans. |
| 02:12.00 | Nechckn | kk.. one sec |
| 02:12.45 | Wobin | hehe |
| 02:12.52 | Wobin | Scientology: A Thetanic Cult! |
| 02:12.56 | Nechckn | I don't think watcher is on the public side atm.. wait one. |
| 02:13.04 | Lopeppeppy | Xanadu is better. |
| 02:13.11 | art3mis | http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2007/10/wall_street_journal_somehow_fi.html |
| 02:13.15 | Lunessa | Hey guys, since I'm not in her pissing on your religions or beliefs, can we lay off mine? |
| 02:14.19 | oreth | Lunessa: are you a Scientologist? |
| 02:14.25 | Lunessa | Yes. |
| 02:14.27 | Kaso | Anonymous isnt protesting people's belief, rather the criminal actions of the Church of scientology Internation, Just to be clear, and i shall leave off now. |
| 02:15.14 | oreth | Lunessa has asked us nicely to stop disparaging his/her beliefs |
| 02:15.26 | art3mis | which is erally a cry for help |
| 02:15.28 | art3mis | really |
| 02:15.37 | biglulz | http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/5/5e/Xenu_volcanoes.jpg |
| 02:15.40 | oreth | I think it our duty as responsible people to do as she asks |
| 02:15.40 | art3mis | and as we all know instant trollbait on the intratubes |
| 02:15.42 | oreth | he/she |
| 02:16.18 | Wobin | Socialogically speaking, it's a fascinating use of the internet |
| 02:16.32 | Wobin | in a non-destructive manner |
| 02:16.37 | Lunessa | Yeah, should have expected the asshattery to get worse. Never mind. |
| 02:16.41 | Lunessa | Carry on. |
| 02:18.07 | Wobin | Anyway. |
| 02:18.18 | Wobin | I think Calvin and Hobbes should be required reading for all children |
| 02:18.49 | Syzgyn | Have you guys seen the article that compares Calvin and Hobbes to Fight Club? |
| 02:18.51 | Wobin | It's by far the most ... socially informative 'kids' comic around |
| 02:18.55 | Wobin | Syzgyn: yes =) |
| 02:19.12 | Syzgyn | I had never thought about it like that before |
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| 02:21.50 | biglulz | serious business? |
| 02:23.38 | Syzgyn | 4srs |
| 02:24.05 | Syzgyn | http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=11549 <-- pay 1k gold and get a '..of the Shattered Sun' title.... nice |
| 02:24.17 | oreth | wtf is a shattered sun? |
| 02:24.22 | Wobin | title |
| 02:24.28 | Wobin | like Champ of the Naruu |
| 02:24.29 | oreth | is it that thing that chases you after you pick up a key in Super Mario 2? |
| 02:24.34 | oreth | cause if it is, I hated that thing |
| 02:24.38 | Syzgyn | haha |
| 02:24.41 | Syzgyn | its the new sunwell rep |
| 02:24.48 | Wobin | Mmm new repgrind |
| 02:24.50 | Syzgyn | yep! |
| 02:24.54 | Syzgyn | pretty easy though |
| 02:24.56 | oreth | see |
| 02:25.02 | Syzgyn | tons of dailies, and instance rep |
| 02:25.04 | oreth | that's the kinda thing that sickens me about this game |
| 02:25.12 | Kaso | That quest might as well be called "MONEY SINK" |
| 02:25.14 | Syzgyn | every MMO has that stuff though |
| 02:25.21 | oreth | "I'm gonna grind for hours trying to acomplish that which serves no purpose in life" |
| 02:25.37 | biglulz | of course there's no way to flush saved variables >_< |
| 02:25.42 | mikma | huh |
| 02:25.45 | oreth | I give you all leeway, though. |
| 02:25.53 | Wobin | oreth: Welcome to the Interwebs =P |
| 02:25.57 | mikma | hey guys, someone pasted Shaman healing -thread here last night? |
| 02:25.58 | oreth | as you are learning, or creating something at the same time. |
| 02:26.08 | oreth | i like the level push |
| 02:26.18 | oreth | when the x-pac comes out, i'll buy it and gradually level to the new cap |
| 02:26.23 | oreth | sense of accomplishment |
| 02:26.29 | Wobin | The whole point of MMORPGs is to grind for no purpose in life =P |
| 02:26.39 | oreth | ahh, but there's where you're wrong |
| 02:26.45 | Wobin | sorry |
| 02:26.50 | oreth | creating a interface to help someone do something easier |
| 02:26.53 | Wobin | The whole point of MMORPGs is to grind to give Blizzard money =P |
| 02:27.05 | oreth | some of you will actually make a mark on the community |
| 02:27.09 | Wobin | oh |
| 02:27.15 | Kaso | biglulz i assume you mean flush as in in/out stream flush, thats because blizzard want to prevent addons having real time access outside of the sandbox, the saved variables are meant purely for saving state over sessions |
| 02:27.21 | Wobin | The whole point of MMORPGs is to grind to make it easier for someone to grind for no purpose in life =P |
| 02:27.25 | oreth | perhaps, hone your skills to a degree that can be used to make money |
| 02:27.40 | biglulz | kaso: yar |
| 02:27.41 | oreth | or, help people |
| 02:27.58 | oreth | for instance, learning to create a "visual" interface a blind person can use. |
| 02:28.08 | Wobin | oreth: That may be, but only til the point where I'm confident to put "WoW addon programmer" into my resume =P |
| 02:28.18 | Wobin | which won't be anytime soon |
| 02:28.26 | oreth | Wobin: true. |
| 02:28.34 | oreth | but just honing your skills on code is enough |
| 02:28.43 | biglulz | the verdict, on a logout event: REST_PEW = 2894, REST_PLW = nil, XP_PEW = 3475, XP_PLW = 0 |
| 02:28.43 | Kaso | oreth, that sounds like a task and a half |
| 02:28.45 | oreth | you can put "Hobby Programmer" on your resume |
| 02:29.04 | oreth | many people will be like "That's interesting, at the least" |
| 02:29.14 | oreth | and a few will be like "Problem solving skills..." |
| 02:30.04 | oreth | Just learning how to make a computer interact with a human, even on the most basic of levels, is a skill worthy of being noticed. |
| 02:30.29 | oreth | 10 Get it on |
| 02:30.34 | oreth | 20 Bang a Gong |
| 02:30.37 | oreth | 30 Get it on |
| 02:30.38 | oreth | goto 10 |
| 02:32.05 | oreth | but then again, i could be wrong |
| 02:33.07 | oreth | i wish blizz would implement python code as well :| |
| 02:33.32 | Guillotine | no way |
| 02:33.36 | Guillotine | Lua > Python |
| 02:33.44 | Guillotine | required indenting FTL |
| 02:33.45 | Antiarc | Hahaha |
| 02:33.49 | Antiarc | Ever tried embedding Python? |
| 02:33.51 | Antiarc | It sucks ASS. |
| 02:33.58 | Antiarc | Single global lock on everything. |
| 02:34.11 | mikma | ~logs |
| 02:34.12 | purl | hmm... logs is apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
| 02:34.20 | Kaso | python requires indenting?! |
| 02:34.24 | batrick | yes |
| 02:34.37 | Antiarc | Python is whitespace-delimited |
| 02:34.38 | Kaso | holy crap, im glad ive never learnt that |
| 02:34.42 | Antiarc | You indicate blocks via indentation |
| 02:34.51 | oreth | [19:33] <Guillotine> required indenting FTL |
| 02:34.55 | oreth | ^^ and this is why you fail |
| 02:35.12 | Legorol | Guillotine is entitled to his opinion |
| 02:35.28 | oreth | the fact that python is a language that whitespace is meaningful, makes it one of the cleanest and easiest to read languages every |
| 02:35.33 | Lunessa | I actually got hired over a more senior programmer once because I would indent and comment and he wouldn't. |
| 02:35.37 | Guillotine | nah, I usually indent like Python asks. But debugging is a pain when the bug could be whitespace |
| 02:35.38 | Guillotine | at least for me |
| 02:35.51 | Guillotine | I have a problem looking at whats not there instead of whats there |
| 02:35.59 | Antiarc | Indenting is important, and I think python is a great language |
| 02:36.11 | Kaso | I'd be terrible on wow also, no more single line macro-scripts :< |
| 02:36.12 | Antiarc | But debugging errors because you got a file with 4 spaces instead of a tab? Pure hell :P |
| 02:36.43 | oreth | Legorol: you are correct.. Guillotine is entitled to his opinion |
| 02:36.57 | biglulz | someone pm me so i can see how opera handles that |
| 02:37.12 | Guillotine | what Antiarc said |
| 02:37.16 | Guillotine | I've used Python and I like it |
| 02:37.22 | Guillotine | until I had a bug |
| 02:37.34 | Guillotine | and had to go through about a hundred lines of code looking for a bad indent |
| 02:37.49 | biglulz | thx |
| 02:38.16 | Wobin | >< |
| 02:38.25 | oreth | You guys hear that Still Alive is coming (unconfirmed) to Rock band? |
| 02:38.35 | biglulz | hah nice |
| 02:38.35 | Wobin | I remember one uni lecturer that would take marks off if you didn't indent -precisely- as he wanted |
| 02:38.39 | oreth | you know, i've never had a bug in my python due to white space |
| 02:38.56 | oreth | i have had "excus me. wtf r u doin'?" errors |
| 02:39.07 | Antiarc | oreth: Done any team development in python? |
| 02:39.17 | Shirik | I have determined I can't read manga anymore |
| 02:39.23 | Antiarc | It's -real- fun when you get the guy that uses 2 spaces to indent and the next guy uses an 8-space tab :P |
| 02:39.24 | oreth | Antiarc: Ahh... no. But I can see now where that would be a problem |
| 02:39.32 | biglulz | ive determined you cannot read manga, too |
| 02:39.40 | Shirik | third page of a non-manga comic and I still haven't been able to read it properly without reading it twice >< |
| 02:39.42 | oreth | i can't read :( |
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| 02:39.48 | Shirik | I keep reading it backwards and getting confused and then fixing it :( |
| 02:40.10 | oreth | Antiarc: did you listen to the recent Llama Report? |
| 02:40.15 | Antiarc | yeah |
| 02:40.16 | biglulz | oh they aren't translated? |
| 02:40.18 | Antiarc | Of course :P |
| 02:40.22 | Antiarc | Brian bugs me about it till I do |
| 02:40.27 | oreth | Haha |
| 02:40.44 | Shirik | the manga? Yes it is, but not otherwise adjusted |
| 02:40.47 | oreth | It, and DLC from PA, are the things I listen to on the commute |
| 02:40.50 | Shirik | And I'm too used to that :( |
| 02:41.01 | oreth | I hope the re-option Dionaea House |
| 02:41.35 | kergoth | Antiarc: indentation checking sanity check scm hooks can be lovely |
| 02:41.47 | Antiarc | Ooh. I like that idea. |
| 02:42.24 | Shirik | also, http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=145 |
| 02:42.28 | oreth | So, i just found out my webserver supports python scripting. I was so happy. But then... I saved a simple "Hello, World" script... and It kept erroring out. |
| 02:42.41 | oreth | Damn windows text editor was saving with windows line returns instead of unix |
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| 02:43.04 | kergoth | sounds like its time to get a decent text editor |
| 02:43.16 | biglulz | vim it, and set the fileformats the way you want |
| 02:43.17 | oreth | just another reason why I run Kubuntu at home |
| 02:43.25 | kergoth | <3 gvim |
| 02:43.33 | biglulz | <3 you who <3 gvim |
| 02:43.37 | oreth | biglulz: I like vim, alot. But I'm so much quicker with a non-modal editor |
| 02:43.44 | oreth | i realized that's a "lolwut" statement |
| 02:43.46 | Nechckn | Ok biglulz via /chat... talk to me =) |
| 02:43.52 | biglulz | kk |
| 02:44.09 | oreth | but, I've never completely gotten the hang of Vim |
| 02:44.11 | oreth | so I use Komodo |
| 02:44.19 | kergoth | oreth: just need to learn it, once you do its faster, not slower, due to being able to navigate faster in normal mode via text objects & such |
| 02:44.24 | kergoth | jump by sentence, paragraph, code block.. |
| 02:45.11 | oreth | kergoth: I know... I know... Problem is, at any given time i have 3 other developers sitting around my desk discussing code. And they freak out because I"m using Vim... |
| 02:45.18 | kergoth | hahah |
| 02:45.27 | oreth | "wtf r u doin? Visual Studio plox" |
| 02:45.48 | oreth | i then a fake a seizure and they go away |
| 02:45.51 | kergoth | IDE's can be nice, vim still sucks for certain aspects.. its debugger integration is pretty weak for example |
| 02:45.59 | kergoth | i still want to see if viplugin in eclipse is worth using |
| 02:46.03 | oreth | no code completion |
| 02:46.10 | oreth | Buh.. Eclipse |
| 02:46.22 | oreth | Just give me a Text Editor with code completiono |
| 02:46.33 | kergoth | vim 7's omnicompletion is nice |
| 02:46.39 | biglulz | vi for eclipse is alright |
| 02:46.46 | Wobin | <3 Gvim |
| 02:46.56 | oreth | Komodo, forexample, is fantastic. Complete for Python, Lua, Javascript, other libraries I include for javascript/python |
| 02:47.04 | oreth | er... Code Completion |
| 02:47.09 | oreth | and it's fairly quick |
| 02:47.26 | oreth | unless our dev environment is down... Then it's like "brb, shitting myself" |
| 02:49.00 | Shirik | Eclipse's code completion is lol |
| 02:49.11 | Shirik | Netbeans/Visual Studio makes sense |
| 02:49.31 | oreth | Well, when I'm doing .Net dev, visual studio makes sense |
| 02:49.49 | Shirik | When you're doing .NET dev, everything makes sense because your brain goes to mush |
| 02:50.18 | oreth | Don't I know it |
| 02:50.35 | Nechckn | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:51.06 | oreth | class ProfitsModule : BaseModule |
| 02:51.13 | oreth | or even better |
| 02:51.45 | oreth | public abstract class BaseModule{ |
| 02:51.55 | oreth | WHAT?! |
| 02:52.58 | oreth | public class MyModule : BaseModule { public override string Name { get { _name; } set { _name: } } } |
| 02:53.03 | oreth | that is valid code |
| 02:53.15 | oreth | and it makes me want to eat babies |
| 02:53.34 | oreth | I mean, more so than usual |
| 02:58.10 | biglulz | lulz |
| 02:59.16 | oreth | sorry |
| 02:59.41 | biglulz | baby eating references are welcome with me |
| 03:00.30 | biglulz | away for a bit, i'm going to read over this code |
| 03:00.33 | kd3 | huh. that's odd |
| 03:00.38 | biglulz | <3 |
| 03:00.41 | kd3 | molten armor is proccing off spell hits against me |
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| 03:18.11 | batrick | gn |
| 03:18.22 | Shirik | night? |
| 03:19.03 | batrick | ya |
| 03:19.10 | Shirik | k night :) |
| 03:19.16 | batrick | later |
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| 03:19.44 | Shirik | is there a guild on PTR? (kd3: ping) |
| 03:19.57 | kd3 | sbo's forming it, dunno if it's got enough people yet |
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| 03:20.51 | Shirik | I can have a lv 1 sign it; no copy yet though :( ( ScytheBlade1: ping) |
| 03:21.04 | Shirik | wait, what race? |
| 03:21.07 | Shirik | (faction) |
| 03:21.15 | kd3 | alliance |
| 03:21.18 | Shirik | boooooo |
| 03:21.29 | Shirik | guess that means I have to copy over shirik too |
| 03:21.42 | Shirik | *(@*$#@(U*& queue full |
| 03:21.55 | kd3 | you act like you're surprised |
| 03:22.07 | Shirik | :( |
| 03:22.12 | Lopeppeppy | I have my characters there too, i should sign and be good. |
| 03:22.36 | kd3 | "sboo" is on the isle. send him a tell |
| 03:22.38 | Shirik | time to log in and see how many errors Conspiracy has |
| 03:22.58 | Shirik | if I'm lucky, the error handler will have some and thus I won't see them :D |
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| 03:31.58 | Tem|AFK | I got to copy my character last night |
| 03:32.05 | Tem|AFK | doubt it's through, though |
| 03:35.01 | Shirik | so either conspiracy has no errors or there's an error in its handler |
| 03:35.46 | ScytheBlade1 | The former imo ;) |
| 03:35.53 | Shirik | "You are now eligible for random loot" wtf is that? |
| 03:36.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Loot changed |
| 03:36.09 | Lopeppeppy | Messing with the new loot settings things? |
| 03:36.15 | Guillotine | if you right click your frame, you can disable your rolls for random loot |
| 03:36.19 | Shirik | I left ScytheBlade1's group and that happened |
| 03:36.28 | Shirik | oh interesting |
| 03:36.45 | ScytheBlade1 | It's in the patch notes |
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| 03:38.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: IF flight master |
| 03:38.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Doing Soliarn atm |
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| 03:38.54 | ScytheBlade1 | I'll head to SW though |
| 03:39.02 | Shirik | Cidan: ping |
| 03:43.39 | Lopeppeppy | Whee, violation is seriously messed up. *laugh* |
| 03:43.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: sitting still :) |
| 03:44.54 | Lopeppeppy | I'll come pounce. :) |
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| 03:45.17 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm just a step behind the FP |
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| 03:49.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: Shirik: ty both :) |
| 03:49.40 | Lopeppeppy | Welcome. |
| 03:49.40 | Shirik | ? |
| 03:49.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Charter |
| 03:49.45 | Shirik | np |
| 03:49.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Two more signatures and we're set |
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| 03:50.05 | Iriel | hm? |
| 03:50.05 | Shirik | widgertick can! |
| 03:50.10 | Iriel | charter? |
| 03:50.13 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o widgertick] by ChanServ |
| 03:50.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Guild on the US PvE alliance side |
| 03:50.15 | Shirik | for devNull |
| 03:50.17 | widgertick | Sup? |
| 03:50.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Right next to the SW Flightmaster if you want to sign |
| 03:50.39 | Iriel | let me log in |
| 03:50.40 | Shirik | widgertick wants to sign our guild charter on PTR, I know he does :D |
| 03:50.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Just bug me here once you're there (if you're there), I can't watch that monitor now :) |
| 03:50.50 | ScytheBlade1 | (Starting solarian in... maybe a minute) |
| 03:53.21 | Shirik | damn it |
| 03:53.31 | Shirik | I just spent the last 5 minutes trying to figure out why my code isn't working on the PTR |
| 03:53.41 | Shirik | and it's because I'm modifying the Lua files for the regular version >.> |
| 03:53.48 | Iriel | I've done that before 8-( |
| 03:54.10 | Iriel | I've done that at work too, sadly |
| 03:55.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Whee wipe |
| 03:55.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Not due to me! |
| 03:55.55 | Lopeppeppy | That was quick! |
| 03:56.05 | ScytheBlade1 | You know the fight by chance? |
| 03:56.25 | Shirik | heh |
| 03:56.29 | Shirik | the wipes can be very quick |
| 03:56.33 | Shirik | you can be 1% and boom you're dead |
| 03:56.38 | ScytheBlade1 | If one person doesn't move away from the group within ~4 seconds |
| 03:56.40 | ScytheBlade1 | It's a wipe |
| 03:56.42 | Lopeppeppy | Solarian in TK, yes? Or am I crazy? |
| 03:56.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup, in TK |
| 03:57.21 | Iriel | Hm, so i'm in the draenai starting area, likely not helpful for charter signing |
| 03:57.27 | Iriel | Guess I need to create another char |
| 03:57.29 | Lopeppeppy | You are the bomb. Whee. |
| 03:57.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel: whomever you can get to a city quickly :) |
| 03:57.52 | ScytheBlade1 | <-- mage |
| 03:58.01 | Iriel | One sec, i'll be there as a newbie |
| 03:58.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Not gonna be picky about which city |
| 03:58.19 | Iriel | Oh, let me run to the exodar then |
| 03:58.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Porting now |
| 03:59.04 | Shirik | he cheats, Iriel |
| 03:59.11 | Iriel | he can cheat away 8-) |
| 03:59.19 | Iriel | I'm Lua, by the way |
| 03:59.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Hehe. Nice name. |
| 04:00.31 | Shirik | I segfaulted Iriel |
| 04:00.36 | Shirik | no signature for you |
| 04:01.13 | Iriel | you wish! |
| 04:01.21 | Shirik | :( |
| 04:03.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel: mostly afk on the PTR atm |
| 04:03.29 | Iriel | Xml is just logging in |
| 04:03.34 | Syzgyn | wiping to the lynx boss FTL |
| 04:03.51 | Lopeppeppy | Meow. |
| 04:04.13 | Syzgyn | hi lope |
| 04:04.19 | Shirik | Segfault is a good guild name imo |
| 04:04.59 | Shirik | because it's what we will do to you puny Alliance devNull characters! |
| 04:05.01 | Lopeppeppy | Duh. Um... what is our guildname? |
| 04:05.05 | Shirik | devNull |
| 04:05.23 | Lopeppeppy | Okay! When it's formed, I'd like to get Miss Peppy into it too, she's cute. |
| 04:05.25 | Shirik | which I actually used today |
| 04:05.31 | Shirik | I never had found a use for it before today |
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| 04:13.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Guild created... we should be good |
| 04:14.18 | Lopeppeppy | *cheer* I'll bug someone tomorrow to port in my official Peppy-doom! |
| 04:14.23 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 04:14.49 | ScytheBlade1 | The people who signed have the officer rank too, and they can promote people to a rank that can also invite |
| 04:14.56 | ScytheBlade1 | So, yeah, you should have your options :) |
| 04:15.42 | ScytheBlade1 | :( |
| 04:15.43 | Shirik | "Sboo's rank is too high" :( |
| 04:15.54 | ScytheBlade1 | :) |
| 04:16.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Don't boot each other. <3 |
| 04:16.46 | Shirik | I don't think we can tbh |
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| 04:17.35 | Xinhuan | wtb character copy |
| 04:17.37 | Xinhuan | :( |
| 04:21.03 | Atriace | Goodnight... reinstalled WoW and can't for the life of me find a link to the Blizzard art & data unpacker. |
| 04:21.11 | ScytheBlade1 | ~framexl |
| 04:21.13 | ScytheBlade1 | ~framexml |
| 04:21.14 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wdnaddons.com/ |
| 04:21.22 | ScytheBlade1 | There. :) |
| 04:21.30 | Atriace | Thanks, Scythe! :) |
| 04:27.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh, not a problem |
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| 04:30.50 | Fin | wwwhttp://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/other-downloads.html |
| 04:31.01 | Shirik | * /run: unable to open 'scripts\temp\ibjz.url' (line 59, blandat.nbs) |
| 04:31.47 | Fin | huh, links to here now: http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?articleId=21465 |
| 04:36.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Back to combat logging 2.4 |
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| 04:38.53 | Shirik | There is something about hello kitty sitting on top of your errors window that is just awesome |
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| 04:40.54 | Shirik | Pandora is absolutely amazing |
| 04:41.20 | Shirik | how it just "figures out" what I like after I've given it a few pointers |
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| 04:41.46 | Shirik | The song I started with had nothing to do with country even remotely, and it's already playing a song, claiming that I like songs with "country influences" (which is true) |
| 04:44.43 | Iriel | the power of metadata |
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| 04:46.48 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o Cairen1] by ChanServ |
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| 04:48.27 | break19 | la de da |
| 04:48.33 | break19 | heh |
| 04:48.47 | Shirik | hi Cairen1 |
| 04:48.52 | Cairen1 | hi hi |
| 04:48.57 | Shirik | and break19 |
| 04:49.15 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 04:49.17 | break19 | hey shirik, fancy meetin you here.. heh |
| 04:49.32 | Shirik | hm, sorry do I know you? |
| 04:49.46 | break19 | nah, we just share a few channels |
| 04:49.51 | Shirik | oh :) |
| 04:50.04 | break19 | 2, to be exact.. |
| 04:50.19 | Shirik | wowace and? |
| 04:50.22 | break19 | this one.. |
| 04:50.29 | Shirik | you're not allowed to count that :) |
| 04:50.30 | Fin | I'd say Shirik was more crude and brutish rather than fancy |
| 04:50.34 | break19 | .. duh? rofl |
| 04:50.56 | Shirik | :< |
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| 04:51.00 | break19 | ok, does wowace-cia count? I lurk there sometimes... |
| 04:51.02 | Fin | witha soft heart? |
| 04:51.20 | Fin | +' ' |
| 04:51.58 | Shirik | I'm not in that one break19 :) |
| 04:52.00 | Fin | what's Pandora, anyway? |
| 04:52.06 | break19 | oh, thbbt then |
| 04:52.21 | Shirik | pandora asks you to type in a song, artist, or composer, and then starts playing songs like a radio station |
| 04:52.23 | break19 | Fin: some crazy broad that opened a box and let out all kinds of evils |
| 04:52.27 | Fin | is it an app? |
| 04:52.31 | Shirik | as it plays it asks you to say whether you like, don't like, etc. |
| 04:52.37 | Shirik | and it learns what you want to hear |
| 04:52.44 | Shirik | no, just flash or something |
| 04:52.48 | Iriel | it's a website |
| 04:52.48 | Shirik | pandora.com |
| 04:52.53 | Fin | ah, OK, thanks |
| 04:53.01 | Iriel | it's pretty neat |
| 04:53.05 | Fin | I've been using odeo.com a lot lately, I was really surprised it didn't have anything like that |
| 04:53.35 | Fin | oh tits in a handbasket, stupid god damn licensing restrictions |
| 04:53.45 | Fin | anybody know a proxy I could use to view US-only sites? |
| 04:53.46 | Fin | :( |
| 04:53.52 | Fin | "We are deeply, deeply sorry to say that due to licensing constraints, we can no longer allow access to Pandora for listeners located outside of the U.S. We will continue to work diligently to realize the vision of a truly global Pandora, but for the time being we are required to restrict its use. We are very sad to have to do this, but there is no other alternative." |
| 04:53.55 | Shirik | ah that sucks :( |
| 04:54.12 | Fin | same with that tv site as well that looked awesome as awesome could be |
| 04:54.26 | Fin | uhm |
| 04:54.44 | break19 | hey, uhm.. the addon I just updated is still in the "Outdated Mods" category? |
| 04:54.45 | Fin | whatever, I can't be arsed to look up the name if they can't be arsed to use the Internet properly |
| 04:55.05 | Shirik | break19: what addon is that? |
| 04:55.15 | break19 | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6829-FuBaraddonforHealBot.html |
| 04:55.24 | Tem | break19, it's a manual category you have to inform wowi staff |
| 04:55.28 | Tem | (which you just did) |
| 04:55.36 | break19 | tem: exactamundo :) |
| 04:55.39 | Shirik | hehe, yes it is |
| 04:55.44 | Shirik | I'll take care of it for you |
| 04:56.15 | break19 | tanks. lots of tanks.. with big guns. |
| 04:57.55 | Shirik | Also since it's a plugin for another addon, you should also choose the "addon" option, in the event you have a similar case in a future addon |
| 05:00.40 | Shirik | there you go :) |
| 05:01.04 | break19 | Shirik: iirc, It used to exist in the healbot "plugin" list.. but that was about a year ago since I last touched it. heh |
| 05:01.13 | Shirik | Yeah I just fixed that for you too :) |
| 05:01.37 | Shirik | somewhere along the line the main file ID (which points to healbot) got changed to point to your addon |
| 05:01.42 | Shirik | so it was.... an addon to itself >.> |
| 05:02.59 | break19 | Shirik: weird. lol |
| 05:03.44 | break19 | Shirik: I know when I first added it, it was correct.. maybe all the changes over the past year?? |
| 05:03.55 | Shirik | it could be anything :) |
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| 05:05.06 | Shirik | ah, the owner of healbot doesn't allow patches/addons to be posted for it, so it might have gotten kicked out of that list if he used to and then disabled it |
| 05:05.15 | Wobin | yeah I miss Pandora |
| 05:05.17 | Shirik | (Which is also why you still don't show up in that list, but your addon does list itself as an addon to healbot) |
| 05:06.18 | Shirik | omg pandora also knows I like music with a string ensemble behind it |
| 05:06.23 | Shirik | I so <3 this site |
| 05:14.08 | Shirik | :< |
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| 05:20.07 | art3mis | it's howlin' mad murphy! |
| 05:20.47 | Shirik | THIS APPLICATION HAS ENCOUNTERED A CRITICAL ERROR |
| 05:20.48 | Shirik | rawr |
| 05:21.01 | Shirik | curious, it's warning me about a memory leak |
| 05:21.07 | art3mis | you just found out about pandora shirik? |
| 05:21.19 | Shirik | well I found out a while ago, but just actually created my own channels today |
| 05:21.24 | Shirik | I've just been listening to others' |
| 05:22.22 | art3mis | crazy |
| 05:22.36 | art3mis | oh hey did you hear that google has a free email site sorta like hotmail but better? |
| 05:22.43 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 05:23.02 | art3mis | i was actually surprised yesterday appearantly it's finally out of beta |
| 05:23.13 | art3mis | 45million beta testers ;P |
| 05:23.32 | Shirik | ~kill art3mis |
| 05:23.32 | purl | ACTION shoots a hyper-charged pseudopositrino gun at art3mis |
| 05:24.00 | art3mis | http://www.hostmyjpg.com/images/302640235_girlforsale.jpg <-- nfsw if yuo're at work right now |
| 05:24.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, after combatlogging the new island for a few hours |
| 05:24.15 | Shirik | but it is safe for work if you're not at work |
| 05:24.23 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got GUIDs for 2088 players |
| 05:24.44 | ScytheBlade1 | And 2121 NPCs |
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| 05:25.22 | Iriel | If someone gets your GUID you lose your soul! |
| 05:25.34 | ScytheBlade1 | hehe |
| 05:25.37 | ScytheBlade1 | >:D |
| 05:25.41 | Shirik | damn it |
| 05:25.46 | Shirik | he already has mine, doesn't he |
| 05:25.46 | kd3 | they all unique so far? |
| 05:25.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 05:25.59 | Shirik | how many bits is the GUID? |
| 05:26.10 | ScytheBlade1 | All of them after the first 12 |
| 05:26.11 | Iriel | Theyd better be unique, otherwise the 'GU' is a joke |
| 05:26.26 | ScytheBlade1 | *12 bytes |
| 05:26.32 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: ... |
| 05:26.34 | Shirik | ok |
| 05:26.34 | kd3 | I've seen reports on the PTR that they weren't. would call it combat log screwiness, though |
| 05:26.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Minor detail, heh |
| 05:26.38 | Fin | perhaps they might be downgraded to just "U" instead of "GU" |
| 05:26.39 | Shirik | how many is the whole thing? |
| 05:26.46 | Fin | locally unique IDs |
| 05:26.48 | ScytheBlade1 | 0xF1300061E70DB146 |
| 05:26.50 | Shirik | LUID |
| 05:26.51 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 05:26.57 | Fin | local to themselves and any other IDs that aren't the same |
| 05:27.08 | Shirik | so 8 bytes |
| 05:27.18 | Shirik | lua> 2^8^8 |
| 05:27.18 | lua_bot | Shirik: inf |
| 05:27.21 | Shirik | heh |
| 05:27.22 | Shirik | big enough |
| 05:27.25 | ScytheBlade1 | And I lack Shirik's GUID |
| 05:27.29 | ScytheBlade1 | I was not logging then |
| 05:27.32 | Shirik | good |
| 05:27.36 | Shirik | it's not like I use that character anyway |
| 05:27.37 | ScytheBlade1 | BUT I WILL FIX THAT GIVEN TIME, I PROMISE YOU THAT |
| 05:27.40 | ScytheBlade1 | lol, true |
| 05:27.41 | Fin | ahah, maybe that's a "guid" thing! |
| 05:27.44 | ScytheBlade1 | So maybe I won't |
| 05:28.07 | ScytheBlade1 | 72k records in the database... good times |
| 05:28.12 | Fin | guid times |
| 05:28.13 | Fin | ITYM |
| 05:28.20 | Fin | HTH, etc. |
| 05:28.32 | ScytheBlade1 | 33 unique events, just missing a few now |
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| 05:29.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Out of 40, in theory |
| 05:34.01 | ScytheBlade1 | ... lol |
| 05:34.09 | ScytheBlade1 | SELECT ... INTO OUTFILE saves the files on the server |
| 05:34.12 | ScytheBlade1 | That explains quite a bit |
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| 05:35.10 | Xinhuan | Iriel, did you ever find out anything about the LoadWith and LoadManagers? ^^ |
| 05:35.17 | art3mis | I see that you've got both technical and business experience, which is an unusual combination -- and makes you a strong candidate. I was also impressed by the fact that you possess expert level knowledge in FreeBSD. |
| 05:35.18 | art3mis | This is our Unix OS of choice. |
| 05:35.20 | art3mis | neat |
| 05:35.33 | art3mis | a president of this comapany wants to interview/hire me |
| 05:36.25 | Iriel | Xinhuan: I didn't.. and I got home a bit tired too, so I didn't have much chance to experiment |
| 05:36.30 | Xinhuan | ah |
| 05:39.00 | ScytheBlade1 | http://wowi.pastey.net/82215 |
| 05:39.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Fear the GUIDs |
| 05:40.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Players, followed by NPCs/pets/totems/etc |
| 05:40.11 | Iriel | I'd love to know what my main's GUID is, wonder if they're ascending by creation date |
| 05:40.24 | ScytheBlade1 | It makes you wonder |
| 05:40.26 | Wobin | art3mis: Woo. good luck |
| 05:40.34 | ScytheBlade1 | I also have to wonder if they match the ints you see on the forums |
| 05:41.07 | art3mis | guids is a great thing |
| 05:41.08 | Xinhuan | go find out ;p |
| 05:41.14 | art3mis | it's gonna make botting so easy ;P |
| 05:41.26 | art3mis | err |
| 05:41.27 | art3mis | ;) |
| 05:41.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Can't find out |
| 05:41.37 | art3mis | thanks wobin! |
| 05:41.40 | ScytheBlade1 | The characters on the PTR are copies |
| 05:41.48 | ScytheBlade1 | They won't match the GUIDs on our own servers, most likely |
| 05:42.04 | art3mis | just to a kill spawn check |
| 05:42.08 | art3mis | kill 3 mobs |
| 05:42.11 | art3mis | fast |
| 05:42.17 | art3mis | watch them spawn and count hier numbers |
| 05:42.27 | ScytheBlade1 | 0xF14020922D000828 BUFFMEFGTS |
| 05:42.30 | ScytheBlade1 | People are so creative |
| 05:42.36 | art3mis | oh snap |
| 05:42.43 | art3mis | it shows the name the guid belongs too? |
| 05:42.53 | ScytheBlade1 | My pastey does, yes |
| 05:42.58 | Wobin | Damn you wine community |
| 05:43.07 | art3mis | does it do it for everything or just players? |
| 05:43.07 | Wobin | Someone get Audiosurf and tell me if it works under wine =P |
| 05:43.21 | art3mis | crossover ;P |
| 05:43.25 | art3mis | don't be lame |
| 05:43.27 | ScytheBlade1 | For everything |
| 05:43.27 | art3mis | heh |
| 05:43.32 | art3mis | wow thats awesome |
| 05:43.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Click the pastey ;P |
| 05:43.52 | ScytheBlade1 | 00:39 < ScytheBlade1> http://wowi.pastey.net/82215 |
| 05:44.02 | Wobin | hehe |
| 05:44.04 | Wobin | mushupork |
| 05:44.31 | Wobin | ...Waffle? |
| 05:44.43 | Iriel | There's a place near the office that does a great mushu pork burrito |
| 05:45.55 | Wobin | That... |
| 05:45.56 | Wobin | is scary |
| 05:46.07 | Wobin | some things were not meant to be fusioned =P |
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| 05:47.29 | Iriel | They're fairly small, and it works |
| 05:47.47 | Antiarc | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/maskofthefurryhunter.jpg |
| 05:47.47 | Antiarc | wtf. |
| 05:47.57 | art3mis | okay mushu pork burritos sounds disgusting |
| 05:48.09 | Iriel | Dont think 'full burrito' |
| 05:48.30 | Iriel | it's more like a thin soft tortilla with musu pork stir fry inside |
| 05:48.44 | art3mis | still sounds kind of gross |
| 05:48.47 | Iriel | folded into a kind of triangle |
| 05:48.49 | Iriel | it's delicious |
| 05:49.14 | art3mis | oh THOSE |
| 05:49.20 | art3mis | thats not a burrito |
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| 05:49.22 | ScytheBlade1 | 72k lines in the database, hmm |
| 05:49.25 | ScytheBlade1 | I need to log more |
| 05:49.51 | art3mis | i got a pocket full of love rockets |
| 05:49.55 | Iriel | I know it's not a burrito, but that's what it's called on the menu |
| 05:50.02 | art3mis | i need to report for being obscene |
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| 05:51.10 | clad|sleep | Patchdiff up: http://patchdiff.pastey.net/82219 |
| 05:51.37 | |Jelly| | !c us burning legion shinjiro |
| 05:51.41 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Shinjiro, Level 70 Tauren Warrior (9/5/47). 18925 HP; 19348 Armour; 138.800 Melee DPS; 11.62% melee crit; 101 melee hit; 30 +spell dmg/heal; 376 defense; 28.65% dodge; 32.47% block; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1086 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2a8t3f ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/35zj8e ][ Updated: Fri Feb 15 01:00:50 2008 EST ]] |
| 05:51.54 | kd3 | "GetNumDeclensionSets"? |
| 05:52.08 | clad|sleep | yeah |
| 05:52.10 | clad|sleep | tell me about it |
| 05:52.16 | clad|sleep | how odd |
| 05:52.30 | Thrae | OK, GameTooltip is annoying me again. Do I really need to make my own GameTooltip to simulate a change in behavior with the default one? Seems wasteful, but all the hacks...oh the hacks... |
| 05:52.42 | Shirik | night a |
| 05:52.43 | Shirik | all |
| 05:52.58 | kd3 | that's a word I've never heard of before... wiktionary's proving interesting: "way of categorizing nouns, pronouns, or adjectives according to the inflections they receive" |
| 05:53.01 | Thrae | *slaps forhead* Oh right, the reason I'm raping the default GameTooltip is for compatibility reasons. |
| 05:53.47 | Shirik|zZz | Declension? |
| 05:53.50 | Shirik|zZz | that's an awesome word |
| 05:54.13 | Syzgyn | |Jelly|: I like how that warrior has 30 +dmg |
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| 05:56.06 | clad|rowing | we'd need someone who is non enUS |
| 05:56.11 | clad|rowing | to try renaming their pet |
| 05:56.15 | clad|rowing | it looks like that's what changed |
| 05:56.50 | Thrae | I think I'll need the glory of "OnTooltipCleared". Gaaaah. |
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| 06:00.00 | Thrae | Ooops, function is wrong scope. There we go. |
| 06:06.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Who is Threatdev on the PTR? |
| 06:07.04 | Antiarc | Who do you think? :P |
| 06:07.11 | ScytheBlade1 | I asked, you didn't respond ;P |
| 06:07.24 | Antiarc | I was tabbed out |
| 06:07.25 | ScytheBlade1 | That's who I guessed, too |
| 06:07.26 | Antiarc | You know, threat devving |
| 06:07.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Ahh, explains it |
| 06:07.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, I figured |
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| 06:12.48 | MentalPower | Antiarc: how original :P |
| 06:13.22 | Antiarc | MentalPower: I'm not here to be original, it was that or Randomize :P |
| 06:14.56 | Thrae | Iriel: You still around? I need your expertise. |
| 06:15.49 | Thrae | I'm trying to figure out how to tell if the GameTooltip is not mousing over a unit in the WorldFrame. |
| 06:16.28 | Tem | Thrae, tired GetMouseFocus() ~= WorldFrame ? |
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| 06:17.25 | Iriel | Tem's suggestion is a good one |
| 06:17.37 | Thrae | Ooo, never thought of that. When was that added? |
| 06:17.51 | Iriel | 1.x? |
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| 06:18.28 | Tem | 1.6 or 1.5 imo |
| 06:18.32 | Tem | maybe earlier |
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| 06:23.20 | Thrae | OK, now WoW is just messing with me -- this function IS properly closed, syntax highlighting confirms it. |
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| 06:29.20 | Thrae | Hmmm. |
| 06:34.26 | kergoth | Thrae: luac is your friend |
| 06:35.44 | Thrae | kergoth: Oh that. It turned out to be I fixed it and thought Swatter was still saying I had an error. |
| 06:36.36 | kergoth | ahh. hehe. i hate that. tempted to hack it to have an option to not have messages persist, seems like i'm doing a /swatter clear every reloadui |
| 06:36.59 | Thrae | Iriel, Tem: Anyway, I'm still having trouble hiding things I've done to the GameTooltip when a doodad is moused over. |
| 06:39.54 | art3mis | hrm thers a valentines pet right? |
| 06:40.01 | art3mis | a truesilver arrow or soemthing? |
| 06:42.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow |
| 06:42.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Nether Vortexes are no longer BoP, and can be purchased for badges |
| 06:42.48 | ScytheBlade1 | 0_0 |
| 06:43.32 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:43.58 | Thrae | Iriel, Tem: Problem is, I want to disable the Fade effect that occurs without ANCHOR_CURSOR, since I'm allowing people to change the X,Y points of cursor anchoring using an OnUpdate script. |
| 06:44.52 | Iriel | Can't you simply attach your own mock frame behind but anchored to GameTooltip and detect it changing shape and visibility? |
| 06:46.25 | Thrae | Iriel: Yes, the OnUpdate frame is attached to GameTooltip. But if I look for a change in the alpha of the tooltip, then people that want to change the permenant alpha of the tooltip are hosed. Wait...*slaps forehead* I could just deduct the alpha change they wish from my comparison to GetAlpha() |
| 06:50.12 | Thrae | Iriel: Grrr, that doesn't fix the problem of the tooltip taking ~2 seconds to change alpha on fade out. |
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| 06:50.48 | Iriel | the doodads are unfortunately completely out of reach of the lua code |
| 06:50.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Anyone here uses PHP + GD to generate... MASSIVE images? |
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| 06:51.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Say, 50000x1000 or larger |
| 06:51.42 | Iriel | memory issues? |
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| 06:51.56 | Thrae | Iriel: Yeah, I've petitioned multiple times for OnFading or OnHide being called -before- fading occurs. |
| 06:51.58 | ScytheBlade1 | No, I'm just wondering if anyone has done it. Might be doing some. |
| 06:52.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Still debating on the best approach for this |
| 06:52.21 | ScytheBlade1 | I might wind up just creating .svg files and rendering them |
| 06:52.40 | Thrae | Iriel: Or they could save me the trouble and allow ANCHOR_CURSOR X,Y coordinates ;) |
| 06:53.08 | Iriel | I suspect it depends what the nature of the image is |
| 06:53.22 | Iriel | Assembling it in stripes and then knitting them together with a stream based tool may work too |
| 06:53.46 | ScytheBlade1 | A timeline |
| 06:53.52 | ScytheBlade1 | That would probably work better overall |
| 06:53.56 | Iriel | I've done a lot of stuff with the pnm tools (pam now I guess) |
| 06:54.01 | Iriel | pamscale, etc |
| 06:54.17 | Thrae | Iriel: Would the 2.4 thread be a bad place to ask for a relatively small change, or need I make a new thread? |
| 06:54.21 | Iriel | Do you need to be creating a raster image in the first place? |
| 06:54.27 | Iriel | Thrae: Cog's suggestion thread |
| 06:54.39 | Iriel | can't you just create a SVG and be done with it? |
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| 06:54.49 | Iriel | or PostScript/PDF? |
| 06:54.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Having it scalable would be nice, but it's not a requirement. I could very likely just create a SVG and be done with it. |
| 06:55.12 | Thrae | Iriel: On WoWI? |
| 06:55.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Postscript is an option, but then I'd be learning postscript. :) |
| 06:55.30 | Iriel | I love postscript, it's fun! |
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| 06:55.38 | Iriel | SVG's your best bet tho, I suspect |
| 06:55.44 | ScytheBlade1 | That's what I'm thinking |
| 06:55.46 | Iriel | i'm sure someone else has done an SVG to PostScript converter |
| 06:56.02 | ScytheBlade1 | And then I can just pass it to imagemagick if all else fails, and I want a raster image |
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| 06:56.44 | Intangir | hey |
| 06:56.52 | Intangir | im looking for an addon that saves the skill icons on my bars, the positions of them |
| 06:56.59 | Intangir | and rearranges them for me based on saved profiles |
| 06:57.15 | Intangir | not the bar positions, but the actual .. bar slot ID positions for the skill icons |
| 06:57.45 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got a database of events, want to create a timeline of these events. Possibly as many as 50,000 events over a two-three hour stretch. |
| 06:58.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Thinking SVG would be the way to go, considering it's PHP assembling the image |
| 06:58.57 | Intangir | anyone have an idea on the addon im talking about? |
| 06:58.58 | Iriel | I used to do stuff like that in PostScript all the time |
| 06:58.59 | Intangir | im told one exists |
| 06:59.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Can use either the XML tools within it, or just straight fputs() |
| 06:59.50 | Gngsk | Intangir, http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8075-ActionBarSaver.html |
| 06:59.53 | Gngsk | I think that would work |
| 06:59.56 | Gngsk | there's another one too |
| 07:00.12 | Gngsk | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4302-SimpleActionSets.html |
| 07:00.48 | Intangir | sweet thanks |
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| 07:02.03 | Thrae | Hmmmm, I have a thought. |
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| 07:02.30 | Cairenn | Thrae: does it hurt? |
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| 07:03.21 | kd3 | wow, what a bad time to tab back in to the channel |
| 07:03.32 | Cairenn | ? |
| 07:03.56 | kd3 | "does it hurt?". my mind totally jumped to something rather highly inappropriate |
| 07:04.02 | Cairenn | lol |
| 07:04.06 | ScytheBlade1 | hahaha |
| 07:04.15 | Cairenn | (2:03:53 AM) Thrae: Hmmmm, I have a thought. |
| 07:04.15 | Cairenn | (2:04:20 AM) Cairenn: Thrae: does it hurt? |
| 07:04.18 | Cairenn | :p |
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| 07:04.39 | Cairenn | you know, cause him thinking is so unusual ... ;) |
| 07:05.13 | Iriel | ScytheBlade1: http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/batik/tools/rasterizer.html |
| 07:05.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel: oooooohhhhhhhh |
| 07:06.02 | ScytheBlade1 | That'd be worth installing apache ant for, assuming I do it web based, hehe |
| 07:06.09 | ScytheBlade1 | *bookmarks* |
| 07:06.19 | Iriel | ant is handy anyway |
| 07:06.24 | Iriel | if you used OSX you'd have it already 8-) |
| 07:07.04 | Iriel | though it's easy enough to invoke directly via java command line |
| 07:07.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Eh, the server is CentOS. ;) |
| 07:07.23 | art3mis | eww |
| 07:07.29 | art3mis | i feel dirty now |
| 07:08.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Of course, now I get to read the SVG specs |
| 07:08.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, `yum search ant` was a bad idea |
| 07:09.00 | kd3 | 3k results or so? |
| 07:09.15 | ScytheBlade1 | At least, I'd imagine |
| 07:09.27 | art3mis | http://www.xkcd.com/ <- hover is awesome |
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| 07:09.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Eww, it's pulling in gtk. |
| 07:10.13 | ScytheBlade1 | And Eclipse, wtf |
| 07:11.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Why I need Eclipse on a headless server, I'm not sure.. |
| 07:12.19 | Thrae | Hmmm, attaching *the* GameTooltip object to another GameTooltip object isn't useful. |
| 07:14.43 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: you use yum on a regular basis, I'd assume. How can I get it to install ant + deps, only without all of the X deps/eclipse? |
| 07:14.59 | ScytheBlade1 | I mean, there's zero reason as to why ant needs alsa-libs. :( |
| 07:16.11 | Iriel | ScytheBlade1: Just grab the .zip from apache's site |
| 07:16.19 | kd3 | `yum -x package install ant`? -x is short for exclude. don't really know for sure since I've got eclipse installed here |
| 07:16.53 | kd3 | and I've got ant installed too, actually |
| 07:16.53 | Iriel | Sadly most linux package managers have managed to screw up java stuff royally. |
| 07:16.54 | Thrae | OK, I'm left an OnUpdate script again. Sigh... |
| 07:16.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel: tempting, but I'm really trying to use the distro provided packages with my server. If all else fails I will |
| 07:17.01 | kd3 | jpackage <3 |
| 07:17.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Error: Missing Dependency: eclipse-ecj is needed by package java-1.4.2-gcj-compat-devel |
| 07:17.45 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 07:18.21 | ScytheBlade1 | and needs java-devel, java-devel needs eclipse. |
| 07:18.25 | ScytheBlade1 | s/and/ant/ |
| 07:18.29 | ScytheBlade1 | I see what you mean, heh. |
| 07:19.16 | kd3 | gack, it's 2 am. I've got a 4-hour drive ahead of me today |
| 07:20.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Night |
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| 07:22.42 | Iriel | as I said, screwed up. |
| 07:23.00 | Antiarc | ScytheBlade1: Ping |
| 07:23.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: pong |
| 07:23.46 | Antiarc | Can you /combatlog and then use Invis and send the log to me? On the PTR? |
| 07:23.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Sure thing, sec |
| 07:24.27 | kEnz | anyone know how I can change the front of players name? |
| 07:24.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Let me get to a... quieter place though |
| 07:24.39 | ScytheBlade1 | A log on this new island might break you :) |
| 07:26.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh wow. That is quiet. Sec |
| 07:26.08 | Antiarc | Also, do you have a lightning cap? |
| 07:26.13 | Antiarc | If so, can you proc it for me in the log? |
| 07:26.14 | ScytheBlade1 | I don't, sadly |
| 07:26.17 | Antiarc | :( |
| 07:26.25 | ScytheBlade1 | I do have the SSC mage trinket, if that is similar enough |
| 07:26.29 | ScytheBlade1 | And an Icon |
| 07:26.34 | Antiarc | Hehe, afraid not |
| 07:26.40 | Antiarc | I need the spell ID of the procced lightning bolt |
| 07:26.44 | Thrae | Iriel: Do you know what ANCHOR_PRESERVE does? *looks through patch notes* |
| 07:26.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Should be able to get that through wowhead |
| 07:26.56 | Iriel | Not offhand, my guess is 'leave my frame the hell alone' |
| 07:27.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: http://wowi.pastey.net/82225 |
| 07:27.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Er |
| 07:27.20 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 07:27.23 | nevcairiel | Antiarc: 18350 .. no idea if its right, but try creating a tooltip for it 0P |
| 07:27.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: refresh the pastey and enjoy |
| 07:28.19 | Antiarc | nevcairiel: PRoblem is that it's functionally identical to the Shaman lightning bolt |
| 07:28.21 | Antiarc | so :( |
| 07:28.26 | Antiarc | Thanks ScytheBlade1 |
| 07:28.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup, np |
| 07:28.43 | ScytheBlade1 | The Exodar was a good choice, haha... that's the compelte contents of the combat log |
| 07:28.50 | ScytheBlade1 | *complete |
| 07:29.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Anything that makes my threat meter more accurate ;) |
| 07:29.28 | Antiarc | Hehe :) |
| 07:29.37 | nevcairiel | if i could remember who had that trinket |
| 07:30.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm, that's weird, now that I look at that |
| 07:30.19 | ScytheBlade1 | There's no event for when you started invis |
| 07:30.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Only when the cast completes |
| 07:31.27 | nevcairiel | it isnt really a cast, is it? dont you get a buff that runs for like 5 seconds, and after that you're invisble? |
| 07:31.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, but that initial buff doesn't appear in the log |
| 07:31.45 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 07:31.49 | nevcairiel | thats weird |
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| 07:32.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, it didn't log me Arcane Explosion that his nothing either |
| 07:32.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Huh |
| 07:33.00 | nevcairiel | well thats nothing new |
| 07:33.14 | ScytheBlade1 | I've never really looked into it in detail |
| 07:33.34 | Tem | but you do see a UNIT_SPELLCAST event for it, don't you? |
| 07:33.53 | ScytheBlade1 | That's a good point. |
| 07:33.59 | ScytheBlade1 | (Go devtools!) |
| 07:34.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 07:34.16 | Iriel | I'll fix devtools this weekend to catch all of the args for the combat events too |
| 07:34.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay that makes more sense |
| 07:34.31 | nevcairiel | wth, latest ptr patch replaced the tent camp at sunwell island with a building :P |
| 07:34.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: anything else you need while I'm sitting here in the Exodar? |
| 07:35.03 | widgertick | It's interesting to think of attention as money. |
| 07:35.35 | Iriel | considering a career in prostitution? |
| 07:35.39 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 07:36.10 | widgertick | Always |
| 07:36.29 | Iriel | nice answer 8-) |
| 07:37.08 | widgertick | ;) |
| 07:37.18 | widgertick | <--- businessgnome |
| 07:37.51 | Tem | zomg |
| 07:37.55 | Tem | I have a character on the ptr now |
| 07:38.17 | nevcairiel | omg |
| 07:38.19 | nevcairiel | +z |
| 07:38.25 | Antiarc | ScytheBlade1: I think I'm good for now |
| 07:38.30 | Antiarc | Tem: GIEF |
| 07:38.44 | Tem | nnnnnno |
| 07:38.52 | Antiarc | Actually |
| 07:38.57 | Antiarc | I'm just begging people for combat log |
| 07:38.58 | Antiarc | logs* |
| 07:39.01 | Antiarc | http://elitistjerks.com/f32/t21611-omen_threat-2_0_2_4_-_i_need_your_help/#post640857 |
| 07:39.07 | Antiarc | The EJ folks are great at data collection |
| 07:39.18 | Antiarc | So I should get everything I need in the next 24 hours or so :P |
| 07:39.19 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 07:39.21 | ScytheBlade1 | They would be |
| 07:39.28 | nevcairiel | i actually managed to copy my GFs char over this morning too, wonder when it arrives |
| 07:39.39 | Thrae | Interesting, I've never noticed an "UpdateTooltip" function in the Widget API. |
| 07:40.04 | Tem | nevcairiel, I copied mine at like 5am today |
| 07:40.11 | Tem | and I just checked for shits and it's there |
| 07:41.15 | nevcairiel | i hope my stupid guildys can get their asses over there soon |
| 07:41.20 | nevcairiel | want to raid sunwell :( |
| 07:41.42 | Tem | lawl, raiding |
| 07:42.01 | Tem | Raiding is for people who don't have addons to attend to |
| 07:42.37 | Thrae | 02:51 <+Tem> Raiding is for people who don't have addons to attend to <-- truth. That and leveling. |
| 07:49.07 | Thrae | !p Braxxis' Staff of Slumber |
| 07:49.07 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Name: Braxxis' Staff of Slumber; Vendor: 8g 99s 70c; Deposit (24h): 5g 39s 82c; Auction (All): 35g 99s; Disenchant (All): 6g 96s [[ http://www.wowecon.com ]] |
| 07:49.41 | Thrae | !p Braxxis' Staff of Slumber; Maelstrom; US |
| 07:49.44 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Name: Braxxis' Staff of Slumber; Vendor: 8g 99s 70c; Deposit (24h): 5g 39s 82c; Auction (All): 35g 99s; Disenchant (Maelstrom): 6g 96s; Disenchant (All): 6g 96s [[ http://www.wowecon.com ]] |
| 07:50.41 | Olison | nice :) |
| 07:51.00 | Iriel | night all |
| 07:51.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, this SVG won't be that hard.. |
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| 07:51.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Night Iriel, thanks |
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| 07:52.49 | Thrae | Alright, I haggled him down to 58g. |
| 07:53.09 | nevcairiel | anyone ran a FrameXML diff of the latest ptr patch? |
| 07:54.41 | dylanm | kd3 did one I think. Don't have the link though. |
| 07:55.29 | ScytheBlade1 | files.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/ |
| 07:55.32 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ there |
| 07:55.53 | ScytheBlade1 | http://files.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/0.4.0.7897-7923.diff specifically |
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| 07:56.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow, screw SVG tutorials. w3.org ftw |
| 07:57.54 | nevcairiel | --Table to reuse! Yay reuse! |
| 07:58.07 | nevcairiel | at least they leave the funny comments in :P |
| 07:58.34 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:58.39 | ScytheBlade1 | That's Zoot, I think |
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| 07:59.24 | dylanm | Zoot is a lot of fun. |
| 07:59.43 | Wobin | Funny comments are half the fun of coding |
| 07:59.56 | Wobin | I swear at other developers a lot in my comments at work |
| 08:00.53 | ScytheBlade1 | A friend of mine has the best comments ever |
| 08:01.07 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:02.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Actually ignore that |
| 08:02.23 | ScytheBlade1 | http://pastey.net/82228 |
| 08:02.25 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ that |
| 08:05.47 | Antiarc | I usualyl don't do funny comments |
| 08:05.49 | Arrowmaster | did you see the string i found in the ptr exe? |
| 08:05.54 | Antiarc | I try to have funny commit messages though |
| 08:05.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: nope |
| 08:06.24 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: whats that? |
| 08:07.16 | Arrowmaster | "Error, attempted to look up model for player with sex %d (UNITSEX_NONE), all players have sex! =D" |
| 08:07.39 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 08:07.57 | Antiarc | Someday, I need to find a form that will let me fill out "sex" with "yes please" |
| 08:08.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh right, I saw that |
| 08:08.39 | Antiarc | Interesting tidbit |
| 08:08.46 | Antiarc | Soulshatter apparently does 1x cast per mob |
| 08:08.50 | Antiarc | And then a cast on a nil target |
| 08:08.55 | Antiarc | Wonder what that one is. |
| 08:08.58 | nevcairiel | what the hell.. :P |
| 08:09.03 | Antiarc | 2/15 11:13:32.921 SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS,0x000000000057943C,Phuz,0x514,0xF1300063190025A0,Sunblade Vindicator,0x810a48,32835,Soulshatter,0x20 |
| 08:09.03 | Antiarc | 2/15 11:13:32.921 SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS,0x000000000057943C,Phuz,0x514,0x0000000000000000,nil,0x80000000,29858,Soulshatter,0x20 |
| 08:09.24 | Arrowmaster | 2.3 it does 1x cast per mob followed by 1 message saying the player preformed it |
| 08:09.38 | Antiarc | That must be it. Hrm. |
| 08:09.40 | nevcairiel | yeah maybe thats due to the AoE nature of it |
| 08:09.52 | Arrowmaster | wtf |
| 08:09.59 | Arrowmaster | is that 2 different spellids? |
| 08:10.14 | Antiarc | yes |
| 08:10.16 | nevcairiel | now that you mention it |
| 08:10.31 | Arrowmaster | wonder what the bitflags on that nil target mean |
| 08:10.43 | Antiarc | It's the NONE thing |
| 08:10.45 | Antiarc | I looked it up |
| 08:10.52 | Wobin | " all players have sex! =D"" |
| 08:10.54 | Arrowmaster | oh i didnt think anything was that high |
| 08:10.57 | Antiarc | You get the same on the srcFlags for any SPELL_AURA_APPLIED |
| 08:10.59 | Wobin | Wishful thinking on some =P |
| 08:11.36 | Arrowmaster | guessing 0x20 is shadow spell? |
| 08:12.01 | nevcairiel | does the school get correctly transmited for heals too? |
| 08:12.14 | nevcairiel | like, druid heals all are nature? |
| 08:12.25 | Antiarc | nevcairiel: yup |
| 08:12.29 | Antiarc | Which is nice! |
| 08:12.39 | nevcairiel | Antiarc: then dump your spell id list from the stupid threat module =P |
| 08:12.57 | Antiarc | ...friggin' doh |
| 08:13.09 | Arrowmaster | huh? |
| 08:13.25 | nevcairiel | before only spells that actually did dmg could be assigned to a school |
| 08:13.27 | Antiarc | Is that Subtlety, or something different? |
| 08:13.32 | nevcairiel | its subtlety |
| 08:13.36 | nevcairiel | one talent for all spells |
| 08:13.40 | Antiarc | Hahahah |
| 08:13.42 | Antiarc | looooooooooool |
| 08:13.47 | Antiarc | I spent like an hour on that yesterday |
| 08:13.51 | Arrowmaster | isnt subtlety only healing spells? |
| 08:13.55 | Arrowmaster | er is it nature? |
| 08:13.59 | nevcairiel | no they changed that way back |
| 08:14.03 | nevcairiel | now says "all spells" |
| 08:14.17 | Arrowmaster | so everything but physical for druids? |
| 08:14.19 | nevcairiel | as a buff to moonkin i guess |
| 08:14.22 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 08:14.24 | Antiarc | 2/15 09:45:20.156 SPELL_PERIODIC_HEAL,0x0000000000564ACF,Mackie,0x514,0x0000000000564ACF,Mackie,0x514,33763,Lifebloom,0x8,40,nil |
| 08:14.27 | Antiarc | 0x8 = nature |
| 08:14.33 | nevcairiel | there you go |
| 08:14.46 | Arrowmaster | guessing ferie fire is nature or something and the feral version is physical? |
| 08:14.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Feral version would still by physical |
| 08:15.02 | ScytheBlade1 | *nature |
| 08:15.03 | Arrowmaster | or does it actually reduce threat on that one too? |
| 08:15.09 | ScytheBlade1 | But I'm not speccing back out of resto ;P |
| 08:15.30 | Antiarc | 2/15 09:49:06.484 SPELL_AURA_APPLIED,0x0000000000000000,nil,0x80000000,0xF1300063A3002533,Sunblade Protector,0x10a48,27011,Faerie Fire (Feral),0x8,DEBUFF |
| 08:15.32 | Antiarc | It's nature. |
| 08:15.36 | nevcairiel | i dont think anyone who specs for feral faerie fire specs sublety |
| 08:15.54 | nevcairiel | but *shrug |
| 08:15.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: is that a log you created, or what? |
| 08:16.02 | Antiarc | ScytheBlade1: One of the EJ guys gave it to me |
| 08:16.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: raid instance? |
| 08:16.12 | Antiarc | From their Kalecgos tries |
| 08:16.13 | Antiarc | Yes |
| 08:16.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Can you send that off to me by chance? |
| 08:16.23 | Antiarc | Sure |
| 08:16.25 | Antiarc | email? |
| 08:16.37 | ScytheBlade1 | or sbo@ |
| 08:17.09 | Antiarc | Sent both, enjoy |
| 08:17.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh, ty |
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| 08:21.45 | Corrodias | i think i got a total of 6 Romantic Picnic Baskets |
| 08:22.06 | Corrodias | only 1 Truesilver Shafted Arrow. yet that's white while the baskets are blue? |
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| 08:22.56 | Arrowmaster | ive found 2 baskets, 2 dresses, and atleast 2 bags of candie whatever those are |
| 08:23.29 | Corrodias | i got 2 dresses last year, none this year. also white quality. |
| 08:23.36 | Antiarc | I've been too busy with threat to do valentines stuff |
| 08:24.02 | ScytheBlade1 | 377 unique actors in that first one you sent me |
| 08:24.03 | Arrowmaster | i just do a run through of my alts every now an then |
| 08:24.03 | Corrodias | they said a while back that the quality was an indication of how easy it is to get something, not necessarily of how GOOD the item is. they seem to have ... deviated from that a tad. |
| 08:24.22 | Arrowmaster | like while i was waiting for a raid invite |
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| 08:24.56 | ScytheBlade1 | 176 different characters, lol |
| 08:24.58 | Corrodias | me, too. every time i get a break while playing, i take the 10 minutes and cycle all my characters, grabbing gifts |
| 08:25.22 | ScytheBlade1 | | 0xF14020BA100012D5 | Frostshock | |
| 08:25.23 | ScytheBlade1 | ? |
| 08:25.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Why would Frostshock have a GUID? |
| 08:25.56 | Antiarc | Frostshock is his name |
| 08:25.58 | Antiarc | Frost Shock is the spell |
| 08:25.59 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 08:26.04 | ScytheBlade1 | No, that is not a player GUID |
| 08:26.11 | ScytheBlade1 | ... but it would be a pet GUID |
| 08:26.15 | Antiarc | Yeah, a pet. |
| 08:26.44 | Arrowmaster | lua> tonumber(string.sub("0xF14020BA100012D5",-12,-7),16) |
| 08:26.45 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 2144784 |
| 08:27.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Though, oddly, that entire log only contains a single entry for Frostshock |
| 08:27.25 | Arrowmaster | hmm |
| 08:27.27 | Corrodias | well, it's time for me to sleep. 'ni |
| 08:29.14 | Arrowmaster | neither wowdb or wowhead have that npc, would think that pets would work or are they somehow different? |
| 08:30.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Look at the number lua gave you |
| 08:30.11 | ScytheBlade1 | That's MUCH larger than any known unitid |
| 08:30.43 | Arrowmaster | lua> tonumber("20BA10",16) |
| 08:30.44 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 2144784 |
| 08:31.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup. |
| 08:31.13 | ScytheBlade1 | MUGH larger. |
| 08:31.16 | Arrowmaster | its the right section if it was an npc |
| 08:31.22 | ScytheBlade1 | If :) |
| 08:31.46 | Arrowmaster | how many pets do you have in those logs? |
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| 08:32.10 | ScytheBlade1 | That'd take a bit of poking to find exactly, but many |
| 08:32.31 | Arrowmaster | well you can use the bitflags to find them all |
| 08:32.48 | Arrowmaster | see if you can find a pattern to their guids |
| 08:32.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, but these are all stored in a MySQL database, with the hex currently stored as strings :) |
| 08:33.09 | Arrowmaster | ... |
| 08:33.22 | Antiarc | MySQL can do bitwise comparison, FWIW |
| 08:33.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, but on a string? |
| 08:33.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Over >200k records? hehe |
| 08:33.36 | nevcairiel | probably not, no :P |
| 08:33.50 | Arrowmaster | maybe you shouldnt be inporting the non guid stuff as strings |
| 08:34.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, I need to change that |
| 08:34.40 | ScytheBlade1 | I did it as strings initially just to make sure everything went in, I wasn't looking at it in detail |
| 08:34.50 | ScytheBlade1 | 347k rows in this database |
| 08:36.26 | ScytheBlade1 | real 2m45.656s |
| 08:36.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Not bad, considering it's PHP parsing, seperating, and running the query to insert ~200k rows |
| 08:36.53 | ScytheBlade1 | (To InnoDB at that) |
| 08:37.45 | ScytheBlade1 | ~1300 records per second |
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| 08:39.32 | Kalroth | Is it running at your webhost or at home? |
| 08:39.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Home |
| 08:39.45 | ScytheBlade1 | One box runs the PHP, another box runs the database |
| 08:41.01 | Kalroth | Ah, ok |
| 08:41.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Gigabit network (though that isn't the bottleneck), and both boxes are dual-core |
| 08:41.33 | Kalroth | Well it's decent, but it's hard to judge without seeing what you do clientside :) |
| 08:42.33 | ScytheBlade1 | http://wowi.pastey.net/82233-410o |
| 08:42.35 | ScytheBlade1 | That ;) |
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| 08:43.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Followed by a few SELECTs and INSERTs to extract unique actor GUIDs |
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| 08:50.31 | Cairenn | night ScytheBlade1 |
| 09:04.49 | Wobin | win |
| 09:04.50 | Wobin | This is awful. If we were lifting the squirrel with a motor, railgun, or electric catapault, with 1.21 gigawatts we could send it screaming upward at ridiculous speeds. |
| 09:05.09 | Wobin | I <3 xkcd |
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| 09:16.50 | Antiarc | Any warlocks here? |
| 09:17.05 | Kalroth | I got a level 30 warlock! |
| 09:17.12 | Xinhuan | i got a lvl 27 warlock! |
| 09:17.27 | widgertick | I'm so happy to be playing Horde again |
| 09:17.30 | widgertick | I actually win BGs |
| 09:17.40 | Codayus | lvl 64 warlock? |
| 09:17.46 | Antiarc | Can I get one of you to test UnitClass on the imp, voidwalker, and succy? |
| 09:17.53 | Antiarc | Felguard too if you have it but no biggie if not |
| 09:17.54 | |Pixel| | I got a level 70 warlock |
| 09:18.23 | Codayus | Live realms okay? |
| 09:18.26 | Antiarc | Yu |
| 09:18.27 | Antiarc | yup |
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| 09:23.14 | Codayus | Sucubus is a paladin. |
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| 09:24.18 | Codayus | As is the felhunter. |
| 09:24.26 | Codayus | Imp is a mage. |
| 09:24.53 | Codayus | Voidwalker is a paladin. |
| 09:25.00 | Antiarc | Perfect! |
| 09:25.01 | Antiarc | Thank you |
| 09:25.32 | Codayus | And I'm affliction, so no felguard. :-( |
| 09:26.01 | Codayus | Oh look, felguard in the scryer bank. Paladin as well. |
| 09:26.51 | Crysli | It's funny how Blizzard assumes that every mob is either a Warrior, Paladin or Mage. |
| 09:27.05 | Codayus | Hmm |
| 09:27.21 | Codayus | I guess...imps have mana and can't melee, so mage. |
| 09:28.00 | Codayus | All other warlock pets are at least vaguely melee based, but have mana, so paladin. And anything with no mana is a warrior? So...there's...KINDA some internal logic... |
| 09:29.09 | Crysli | Sure, but compared to the player classes, I'd say Blizzard should at least have thought of a Warlock class for NPCs since no other class has minions like that. |
| 09:30.05 | Crysli | But it would be sort of weird. Some mobs can use Fireball and Renew, what class would they be? and so on. |
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| 09:30.43 | Codayus | Yeah, I think the real solution would have been to not copy player classes for NPCs. |
| 09:30.59 | Codayus | Er... |
| 09:31.10 | Codayus | Not have UnitClass return player classes for NPCs. |
| 09:31.13 | Crysli | Nooo |
| 09:31.37 | Crysli | Then I can't have a guess at what an NPC can do until I fight it :( |
| 09:31.40 | Codayus | Something like "MeleeMob" "CasterMob" or whatever. Or pick class names like "cleric" for healer NPCs... |
| 09:32.01 | nevcairiel | meh like any npc is a paladin anyway |
| 09:32.06 | Crysli | True. |
| 09:32.36 | Crysli | "Hi, I'm a furbolg. Apparently I'm also a protector of the Light." |
| 09:32.58 | Crysli | Imagine waking up one morning and discover that you've gone from ear thing to Paladin. |
| 09:33.09 | Crysli | Wait. I meant bear thing. |
| 09:33.10 | Codayus | Although a lot of mobs mix up the archetypes a lot... |
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| 09:33.57 | Codayus | Which I kinda wish was more important in the game. People pay attention to individual abilities, but nobody ever cares that they're fighting a priest/mage hybrid NPC or something. |
| 09:34.12 | Codayus | Just "oh, this one can heal, make sure to interupt it"... |
| 09:34.24 | Crysli | And we can't even be sure about that. |
| 09:34.35 | Codayus | Hm? |
| 09:34.49 | Crysli | I fought a mob yesterday that classified as a mage but could heal itself. |
| 09:34.54 | Codayus | Oh, I was thinking on farm content, where you've seen them before... |
| 09:34.59 | Crysli | Ah :) |
| 09:35.28 | Codayus | So you know that the Generic Sentinels in the second hallway can heal, but you don't care about anything else... |
| 09:36.13 | Codayus | IIRC, someone did some testing; all raid bosses have one of two different armor values. |
| 09:36.36 | Codayus | And not a great deal of difference between them either... |
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| 09:39.28 | Crysli | Aww, winter holiday's almost over. |
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| 09:55.27 | Mike-N-Go | Today, a level 40s person accused me of being a gold farmer just because I informed her that 600 units would run about 2 mounts worth of gold, and then complemented me on my good 'engrish' and ignored me. |
| 09:55.56 | Mike-N-Go | units of mageveve* |
| 09:56.00 | Crysli | Oh. |
| 09:56.08 | Crysli | Lol. |
| 09:56.21 | Mike-N-Go | I LoLed, too. |
| 09:57.06 | Crysli | While on my Mage, I once needed on the staff from SM Lib and was called a ninja and kicked. |
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| 09:58.16 | Mike-N-Go | Haha. |
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| 09:58.47 | Mike-N-Go | Funny, where some people ignore the 'need/greed' buttons and insist on passing on everything? |
| 09:59.20 | Crysli | People who pass are missing a lot of great loot. |
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| 10:59.49 | Wobin | omg http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/02/14/lol-marriage-proposal/#proposal |
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| 11:13.37 | Crysli | lolwut |
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| 11:16.09 | tardmrr | http://xkcd.com/320/ |
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| 11:47.21 | Tem | it's time for super important windows updates |
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| 11:49.29 | nevcairiel | that reminds me that i wanted to reformat my system for like half a year now |
| 11:58.22 | Fin | ** ! critical ! ** updates |
| 11:59.14 | wereHamster | crit for how much? |
| 12:00.35 | Fin | 4! |
| 12:01.15 | wereHamster | you must have uber equipment! |
| 12:02.22 | Fin | you know it |
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| 12:06.58 | Wobin | Can GetMouseFocus return a nil? |
| 12:08.18 | haste | if you move the WorldFrame, most likely |
| 12:23.18 | JoshBorke | Wobin: yes |
| 12:23.27 | JoshBorke | UIParent does not receive mousefocus |
| 12:25.11 | JoshBorke | actually, i stand corrected, it does return worldframe |
| 12:25.13 | JoshBorke | that's lame |
| 12:25.23 | haste | hence why I said what I did :p |
| 12:25.55 | haste | it can return nil also |
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| 12:26.13 | haste | but you'll have to move the worldframe for that to be the case |
| 12:29.11 | Wobin | oddly enough I'm getting a nil response just from waving the mouse around |
| 12:29.21 | Wobin | but I worked around that anyway |
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| 14:41.59 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr! |
| 14:42.53 | sysrage | omg you scared me |
| 14:43.09 | Lopeppeppy | I am scary indeed. |
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| 15:15.00 | batrick | http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article3356157.ece |
| 15:15.02 | batrick | hahahhahahahah |
| 15:17.12 | sysrage | lol |
| 15:17.15 | nevcairiel | does anyone know whats the logic behind swiftmend? which HoT does it eat= |
| 15:17.30 | batrick | rejuv or lifebloom i think |
| 15:17.45 | nevcairiel | i know that it uses rejuv and regrowth |
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| 15:17.57 | nevcairiel | i just want to know which it consumns when there are multiple on the target =P |
| 15:18.14 | batrick | think it's dependent on the time left on the buff |
| 15:18.39 | wereHamster | when does cladhaire wake up? |
| 15:18.44 | cladhaire | uhh now? |
| 15:18.49 | cladhaire | or perhaps, 10 hours ago :P |
| 15:18.51 | sysrage | lies. go back to sleep |
| 15:18.55 | cladhaire | they mean the same to you! |
| 15:19.32 | wereHamster | cladhaire, did you have a chance to post my request to get the target GUID in the UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT event? |
| 15:19.39 | cladhaire | i didn't get a pastey |
| 15:19.41 | cladhaire | so no, i didn't. |
| 15:20.01 | nevcairiel | i doubt they'll ever do that anyway |
| 15:20.04 | nevcairiel | but feel free to ask :) |
| 15:20.16 | wereHamster | why? we get the name already... |
| 15:21.27 | cladhaire | keeping a unit->name->guid mapping is pretty trivial |
| 15:21.32 | cladhaire | isn't it? |
| 15:22.30 | wereHamster | not if the unitname isn't unique ;) |
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| 15:23.22 | sysrage | indeed. dunno exactly what you're talking about. but i thought all that WAS getting implemented so we could keep track of water elementals and crpa |
| 15:23.26 | sysrage | crap |
| 15:24.23 | Maldivia | well, in cases where the unit name is not unique, you can always see if it's your target or not |
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| 15:25.16 | wereHamster | the guid numbers are the same for all players, right? so it's possible to send the guid to another player so he can identify the unit. |
| 15:25.28 | Maldivia | yes |
| 15:25.28 | [dRaCo] | only if he keeps a table |
| 15:25.43 | [dRaCo] | since there's no API to target something by its guid |
| 15:26.34 | Maldivia | wereHamster: so if you summon your totem, and tell eveyone that "totem with guid xxx is mine", then they all know to add the damage from that guild to you |
| 15:27.05 | Maldivia | guid*... I'm going to write guild so many times instead of guid.... |
| 15:27.13 | [dRaCo] | ^^ |
| 15:27.18 | wereHamster | it's not possible to clearly identify the unit a spell is targetting. The closest thing we get is the target name in the UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT event. But that event is only fired for the player that is casting the spell, not the party/raid members |
| 15:29.40 | wereHamster | so I'd like to get the guid of the target, so I can send that to party/raid members so they know onto which unit I'm casting the spell |
| 15:30.44 | nevcairiel | whats with the SPELL_CAST_START event in combatlog? |
| 15:30.55 | nevcairiel | that has dstGUID |
| 15:30.58 | Maldivia | if the mob you're casting on is a player/pet, is your target or focus, or has a raid icon, you can get the guid from the log |
| 15:31.02 | Maldivia | nev: it doesn't |
| 15:31.08 | nevcairiel | not? |
| 15:31.09 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 15:31.14 | Maldivia | nev: it's blanked out for spell start |
| 15:31.19 | nevcairiel | why? |
| 15:31.40 | nevcairiel | in SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS then? |
| 15:31.47 | Maldivia | so I can't detect that you're casting on me, until it's too late, or I'm targeting you to see your castbar |
| 15:31.56 | wereHamster | nevcairiel, so that you don't see if someone from the opposing faction is targeting you |
| 15:32.06 | Maldivia | spell_damage has the target guid, yes |
| 15:32.09 | wereHamster | nevcairiel, _SUCCESS is too late |
| 15:33.03 | Maldivia | but a GetGUID(unit) would be a very very nice method to have... |
| 15:33.07 | nevcairiel | sounds like they purposely didnt add that then, so propely wont do it to the other events |
| 15:33.24 | Maldivia | or well, UnitGUID(unit) would probably be more inline with existing naming |
| 15:33.31 | wereHamster | Maldivia, what about multiple units with same name? |
| 15:33.56 | nevcairiel | use unit id :P |
| 15:34.08 | nevcairiel | but they'll never give us that, i think some blue said that |
| 15:34.23 | Maldivia | wereHamster: the flag-part in the combat log, has a flag for target, focus and raid-icons, so you can check for those, and then look up in a map of seen guids with those flags |
| 15:35.24 | Maldivia | wereHamster: can make mouseover-casting a bit tricky, for unmarked mobs... |
| 15:35.29 | Maldivia | getting the guid that is |
| 15:39.02 | wereHamster | unfortunately quite some users do mouseover casting so that's not an option |
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| 15:41.54 | Bela|work | http://wdnaddons.com/0407923?diff=0407897 |
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| 15:54.57 | art3mis | god dammit |
| 15:55.14 | art3mis | landlord neglected to refill the oil tank |
| 15:55.30 | [dRaCo] | wtf? |
| 15:55.51 | nevcairiel | you're freezing now? |
| 15:56.10 | art3mis | its rather nippy yes |
| 15:56.26 | [dRaCo] | why won't he refill it? |
| 15:56.38 | art3mis | cuz shes not here and a complete moron ;P |
| 15:56.58 | [dRaCo] | sue her |
| 15:57.05 | [dRaCo] | for at least 1 billion $ |
| 15:57.20 | art3mis | i know eh?! |
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| 15:58.25 | Lopeppeppy | Wear some warmer jammies, art3mis |
| 15:58.35 | art3mis | hehe it was nice and warm in bed ;P |
| 15:58.43 | art3mis | sadly i had to leave nice warm bed |
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| 15:59.36 | art3mis | i like the cold though |
| 15:59.48 | art3mis | it makes me computers run better ;P |
| 15:59.59 | |pez| | do'h :P |
| 16:00.50 | |pez| | are freenode services somehow down? :p |
| 16:01.11 | Lopeppeppy | ... I seem to be here, so I would say no. |
| 16:01.51 | |pez| | I mean nickserv in particular. |
| 16:02.01 | |pez| | Oooh |
| 16:02.06 | |pez| | it was just superduperslow |
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| 16:06.49 | art3mis | Lopeppeppy: besides i can think of much better ways to warm up, and they dont involve wearing jammies at all ;P |
| 16:07.32 | Elkano | does it involve the landlord? ;) |
| 16:07.50 | Lopeppeppy | art3mis, I repeat... skeeve! |
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| 16:18.40 | art3mis | yuo love it you sexy little trollop! |
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| 16:19.31 | art3mis | yeah its a slightly different colour, didnt register it until after i hit enter ;P |
| 16:19.58 | art3mis | and i meant that YOU were a sexy trollop too jelly ;P |
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| 16:20.16 | |Jelly| | uh huh |
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| 16:58.14 | art3mis | i have to go, i cut my foot earlier and my shoe is filling up with blood. |
| 16:58.24 | art3mis | ^^ best turn down line |
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| 16:59.06 | art3mis | romy and michelles highschool reunion is so stupidly funny |
| 16:59.15 | Lukian | art3mis, I'm sure someone has fetish for that :p |
| 16:59.21 | art3mis | heh |
| 16:59.39 | break19 | nah, the best turn down line is: its not your fault.. but ugly people turn me off. |
| 16:59.48 | art3mis | heh thats pretty good |
| 16:59.52 | Wobin | nah |
| 17:00.00 | Wobin | "I'm sorry, but I have to go home and vacuum my fish" |
| 17:00.17 | art3mis | doesnt everyone do that? |
| 17:00.28 | break19 | or, if you just want short and sweet.. "F*** off" |
| 17:00.32 | art3mis | put a little mesh on the shop vac and vaccuum the tnk to clean it |
| 17:00.42 | art3mis | and make sure the fish get vaccuummeedd |
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| 17:00.54 | art3mis | i hate that word |
| 17:01.07 | art3mis | i think im gonna start callig it hoovering |
| 17:02.01 | art3mis | heh wobin that job i mentioned last night has potential |
| 17:02.04 | oreth| | hey guys |
| 17:02.10 | oreth| | http://eeepc.asus.com/global/product.htm <--- i almost bought one last night |
| 17:02.13 | oreth| | sweet little machines |
| 17:02.24 | art3mis | i emailed the guy with two times im available for a phone interview and he picked the first timeslot at the earliest time |
| 17:02.27 | Shirik | any people around that took a linear circuit analysis course? |
| 17:02.28 | oreth| | python hooks for the OS |
| 17:02.39 | art3mis | oerth: yeah they're pretty rad |
| 17:02.48 | oreth| | I almost bought one last night |
| 17:02.53 | art3mis | i kind of want one of those laptops for the african kids |
| 17:03.01 | oreth| | EEE PC > OLPC |
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| 17:03.09 | art3mis | they have a buy one get one thing |
| 17:03.15 | art3mis | you get oen kid gets one |
| 17:03.19 | oreth| | right |
| 17:03.34 | Wobin | art3mis: sounds promising =) |
| 17:03.45 | art3mis | Wobin: heh yeah until he talks to me ;) |
| 17:03.59 | art3mis | then i'll do something to screw it up |
| 17:04.01 | art3mis | heh |
| 17:05.08 | art3mis | oreth: the only thing i dont like about the eeepc's is that it reminds me too much of a palm and not enough of a computer ;P |
| 17:05.18 | art3mis | cept its not as portable a a palm |
| 17:05.27 | art3mis | or as powerful as a laptop |
| 17:05.29 | oreth| | i have a palm Tungsten E2 |
| 17:05.36 | oreth| | i would trade it hand over fist for the EEE PC |
| 17:05.46 | art3mis | only because its newer |
| 17:05.48 | zenzelezz | "Convertibull"... tauren druid o_O |
| 17:05.55 | oreth| | only because it has LINUX |
| 17:06.02 | oreth| | and Wireless |
| 17:06.04 | art3mis | i have nix on my ipaq ;P |
| 17:06.08 | art3mis | and wireless |
| 17:06.10 | oreth| | and a keyboard |
| 17:06.14 | break19 | i have darwin on my ibook.. *win* |
| 17:06.21 | oreth| | i have an old ibook |
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| 17:06.22 | oreth| | i love it |
| 17:06.23 | art3mis | and an external keyboard with p[alm cradle |
| 17:06.31 | oreth| | i'm thinking about tearing out OS X and popping in Ubuntu |
| 17:06.32 | |pez| | I like the idea of the olpc.. |
| 17:06.40 | |pez| | Mm, Ubuntu |
| 17:06.44 | break19 | i love my ibook.. except when I do av :/ |
| 17:06.44 | oreth| | infact, i might do that this weekend |
| 17:06.51 | oreth| | I don't play games on my ibook |
| 17:07.04 | oreth| | wait |
| 17:07.13 | art3mis | i love my acer laptop |
| 17:07.13 | oreth| | can ubuntu, on a PPC, use wine correctly? |
| 17:07.17 | break19 | oreth: if I didn't play games on my ibook, I'd be watching tv |
| 17:07.19 | art3mis | and leopard ubuntu and xp ;P |
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| 17:07.29 | break19 | oreth: nope. wine isnt an emulator |
| 17:07.51 | oreth| | lol recursive acronym |
| 17:07.56 | art3mis | hehe go with vmware fusion ;P |
| 17:08.00 | break19 | you'd have to use qemu |
| 17:08.07 | break19 | fusion wont work on a ppc :p |
| 17:08.14 | art3mis | qemu is pretty awesome for a free product |
| 17:08.20 | oreth| | really, i can't think of a program that I use on ubuntu that's windows OTHER than wow |
| 17:08.24 | oreth| | and I don't play wow on my laptop |
| 17:08.25 | art3mis | thats the big yellow Q right? |
| 17:08.28 | oreth| | it's my work/dev machine |
| 17:08.29 | break19 | ya |
| 17:08.38 | art3mis | yeah i mucked with that briefly |
| 17:08.41 | oreth| | so, i might do that this weekend |
| 17:08.48 | oreth| | GOOD BYE OS X, you clunky POS |
| 17:08.54 | break19 | clunky!@? |
| 17:08.55 | art3mis | heh osx is awesome |
| 17:08.58 | break19 | *smack* |
| 17:09.01 | art3mis | long live he daemon! |
| 17:09.07 | oreth| | let me give you this |
| 17:09.19 | art3mis | is it a boot to the head? |
| 17:09.21 | break19 | 10.5.2 = win |
| 17:09.23 | oreth| | Ubuntu > OS X > hell fire and damnation > Windows |
| 17:09.30 | break19 | meh |
| 17:09.36 | oreth| | i've got a 1.2 ghz with 768 megs of ram |
| 17:09.37 | break19 | ubuntu = spawn of satan |
| 17:09.42 | art3mis | i wouldnt say ubuntu is better or worse than osx |
| 17:09.49 | art3mis | it's just a different flavour ;P |
| 17:09.49 | oreth| | and 10.4 Server |
| 17:10.07 | oreth| | if I could have XFE on OSX instead of the OPEN GL interface |
| 17:10.10 | oreth| | i'd be a happy puppy |
| 17:10.18 | oreth| | XFE is fantastic |
| 17:10.27 | oreth| | it's like "How do YOU want your interface?" |
| 17:10.30 | break19 | xfe... now where have I heard that.... |
| 17:10.38 | break19 | am I thinking xfce? |
| 17:10.41 | oreth| | er... |
| 17:10.42 | oreth| | yeach |
| 17:10.42 | art3mis | yes |
| 17:10.44 | oreth| | sorry xfce |
| 17:10.51 | break19 | you can. |
| 17:11.00 | art3mis | oreth: but macs arent about how YOU wat it |
| 17:11.01 | art3mis | want |
| 17:11.01 | oreth| | OSX takes up too many system resources |
| 17:11.11 | art3mis | they're about conformity and accepting the status quo ;P |
| 17:11.11 | cladhaire | yes, it just takes them |
| 17:11.13 | cladhaire | and never gives them back! |
| 17:11.27 | oreth| | which is why I want an EEE :P |
| 17:11.30 | break19 | before I installed leopard, I was running OSX+kde :p |
| 17:11.37 | art3mis | thats why being a mac tech isnt impressive ;P |
| 17:11.50 | oreth| | have you guys ever been in an apple store? |
| 17:11.59 | art3mis | unfortunately yes |
| 17:11.59 | oreth| | you take that back, art |
| 17:12.06 | oreth| | KDE is also quite fantastic |
| 17:12.06 | art3mis | its not impresssive |
| 17:12.09 | art3mis | oh |
| 17:12.14 | art3mis | i dont like it |
| 17:12.19 | break19 | but yes... xfce on osx is easily done |
| 17:12.20 | art3mis | i like the betas ive seen for 4 |
| 17:12.40 | oreth| | Now, I have an ibook, i deved on a mac at work, (i still use the keyboard and the mighty mouse on windows), i have an ipod. |
| 17:12.41 | art3mis | but the priors make my eyes bleed in thier mimic windows grossness |
| 17:12.55 | oreth| | but, apple is losing me |
| 17:12.59 | break19 | in fact, easier than setting up kde.. I just never really got into xfce, even when I was running gentoo on my old pc |
| 17:13.17 | |pez| | I want a macbook pro. :o |
| 17:13.20 | oreth| | meh |
| 17:13.27 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: so out of nowhere? Sounds suspicious |
| 17:13.27 | oreth| | i can't see what I would need a macbook pro for |
| 17:13.31 | break19 | psh, lose the "book" and you'd be right. |
| 17:13.36 | oreth| | the eee pc is simplicity in it's greatest form |
| 17:13.38 | oreth| | infact... |
| 17:13.42 | oreth| | I wanna buy one for my neice |
| 17:13.44 | break19 | i want a mac pro quadcore :) |
| 17:13.44 | oreth| | she'll be three this year |
| 17:13.52 | |pez| | just because it looks quite sexy, and seems to be quite usable. |
| 17:13.55 | art3mis | if it had a transmeta chip it would be more awesome ;P |
| 17:14.00 | oreth| | i mean, it's easy to use |
| 17:14.01 | art3mis | <3 transmeta |
| 17:14.08 | oreth| | and easy to be completely codable |
| 17:14.15 | oreth| | python HOOKS into the OS |
| 17:14.20 | oreth| | that is :wibble: |
| 17:15.12 | Shirik | Pop quiz |
| 17:15.20 | break19 | AIYEEE |
| 17:15.24 | Shirik | Because I just had to solve this with 2 pieces of paper and the answer doesn't make sense |
| 17:16.15 | art3mis | did it work out to 42? |
| 17:16.20 | Shirik | Two power sources connected to a 100 ohm load. Source #1 delivers 250mW when source #2 is off. Source #2 delivers 4W when source #1 is off. What is the power delivered when both are on? |
| 17:16.56 | art3mis | coected in series or paralel? |
| 17:16.58 | art3mis | connected |
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| 17:17.23 | Shirik | It doesn't say, though it would be irrelevant |
| 17:17.30 | break19 | man.. its been a while, i cant think of how to solve it. *cry* |
| 17:17.41 | Shirik | it would be in parallel if they were constant-current sources, or series if constant-voltage sources |
| 17:17.49 | break19 | for some reason, I keep coming back to the simple 4250mW :/ |
| 17:17.58 | art3mis | umm break |
| 17:18.00 | art3mis | 4W |
| 17:18.10 | Shirik | At the end of the question, the book does state "Hint: The answer is not 4.25W" |
| 17:18.10 | art3mis | oh wait my bad |
| 17:18.13 | art3mis | hehe |
| 17:18.14 | break19 | right.. which = 4000mW :) |
| 17:18.20 | art3mis | its a little m |
| 17:18.56 | break19 | Shirik: gah ok.. now I wanna know how to solve it.. especially since I used to know this :/ |
| 17:19.49 | Shirik | in fact, I just found out by doing the question again, the 100 ohm load is irrelevant too |
| 17:19.52 | Shirik | you can have any load you want |
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| 17:20.00 | cladhaire | and my internet is down? |
| 17:20.04 | art3mis | yes |
| 17:20.04 | cladhaire | I'm Ron Burgundy? |
| 17:20.17 | cladhaire | woot its not! |
| 17:20.32 | cladhaire | my wow however is pooping on itself. |
| 17:21.05 | Lunessa | like a naughty dog. |
| 17:21.13 | art3mis | 2.125W (in retarded logic it's the average of power conencted power sources, OR if they're in a series it would be either 0 or 250mW sinc the 4W would blow the other smaller power supply ;P |
| 17:21.33 | Shirik | 6.25W is the answer |
| 17:22.12 | Shirik | P=I^2/R therefore the current through the first supply must be 5A, the current through the second supply must be 20A. When both turned on, they would deliver 25A to the load. |
| 17:22.21 | Shirik | lua> 25^2/100 |
| 17:22.21 | lua_bot | Shirik: 6.25 |
| 17:22.37 | art3mis | is that the real answer or the answer you gave? |
| 17:22.47 | Shirik | both |
| 17:22.51 | break19 | art, hes right |
| 17:23.19 | art3mis | well if yuo wrote that and its right why exactly were you asking? |
| 17:23.20 | break19 | i forgot to convert the watts into amps.. or I would've given the same answer.... |
| 17:23.43 | break19 | which is why the 100ohm part was given.. it was necessary to convert into amps |
| 17:23.47 | Shirik | Because I think it should be 4.25W >< |
| 17:24.03 | Shirik | but like I said, I did the problem again and it makes sense |
| 17:24.08 | Shirik | I proved it to myself regardlessof the load |
| 17:24.09 | art3mis | heh |
| 17:24.33 | art3mis | so get those hook them up to a frictionless source and you've got a generator with greater output! |
| 17:24.37 | break19 | Shirik: yea.. geez im rusty |
| 17:24.39 | art3mis | numberwise ;P |
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| 17:29.02 | break19 | bbl, need to logout to allow my system to update |
| 17:34.30 | Shirik | lua> 4*12/(4+12) |
| 17:34.31 | lua_bot | Shirik: 3 |
| 17:35.04 | Shirik | lua> 45/9 |
| 17:35.04 | lua_bot | Shirik: 5 |
| 17:35.14 | Shirik | nice having a calculator handy :D |
| 17:35.18 | cladhaire | P |
| 17:35.58 | Lopeppeppy | lua_bot is love. |
| 17:36.19 | nevcairiel | lua_bot> love |
| 17:36.28 | nevcairiel | lua_bot> ="love" |
| 17:36.37 | nevcairiel | i think it doesnt like me |
| 17:36.48 | cladhaire | you're using it wrong |
| 17:36.49 | Lopeppeppy | You didn't send flowers yesterday, did you? |
| 17:36.52 | cladhaire | the command it lua> |
| 17:36.55 | cladhaire | not lua_bot > |
| 17:36.56 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 17:36.59 | zenzelezz | ~google 45/9 |
| 17:37.03 | nevcairiel | stupid auto name complete |
| 17:37.04 | nevcairiel | damn you |
| 17:37.08 | cladhaire | i'll code it so lua_bot> works |
| 17:37.10 | nevcairiel | lua> ="love" |
| 17:37.10 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: love |
| 17:37.12 | cladhaire | just not now :P |
| 17:37.14 | zenzelezz | ~g 45/9 |
| 17:37.21 | zenzelezz | I fail |
| 17:37.35 | nevcairiel | ~45/9 |
| 17:37.35 | purl | 5 |
| 17:37.41 | nevcairiel | not from google . but yeha :P |
| 17:38.32 | zenzelezz | my point was just that Google can do it if you don't have a calculator :-p |
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| 17:44.47 | Shirik | lua> 6*4/(6+4) |
| 17:44.48 | lua_bot | Shirik: 2.4 |
| 17:45.22 | zenzelezz | considering the math you know, I'd have thought you wouldn't need a calculator for that one |
| 17:45.46 | nevcairiel | you can let your brain work on different tasks while typing that |
| 17:45.47 | Shirik | I suck at arithmetic |
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| 17:46.49 | Lopeppeppy | I simply do NOT do math. Numbers are not my thang. |
| 17:47.09 | |pez| | Mm, got to love this error "it failed!" and then it gives no apparent reason. |
| 17:47.45 | cncfanatics | hello peeps |
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| 17:49.49 | kaelten_ | Legorol: ping |
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| 17:50.32 | Lopeppeppy | morning, cncfanatics. |
| 17:51.41 | Shirik | nick Shirik|AFK |
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| 18:07.12 | cncfanatics | Shirik|AFK: nab :p |
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| 18:17.51 | Maldivia | ohh... with the new guids we can keep healthbars up to date without much hasle |
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| 18:24.06 | nevcairiel | in arena eh? yeah quite useful for that |
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| 18:24.28 | Lunessa | STATION |
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| 18:24.38 | Maldivia | yeah for instance, just made me a GUIDHealth(guid) function :) |
| 18:25.12 | Maldivia | and the only thing it depends on is that you know the guid, and it visible :) |
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| 18:28.29 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Lunessa. |
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| 18:28.42 | Lopeppeppy | ~staple |Jelly| |
| 18:28.43 | purl | ACTION attaches a staple gun to a pneumatic nail gun via duct tape, staples |Jelly| quite well, and hands |Jelly| to lopeppeppy |
| 18:29.19 | Lunessa | Apple care rules. |
| 18:29.25 | Fisker- | no |
| 18:29.34 | Lopeppeppy | Polishing your apple, Lunessa? |
| 18:29.39 | Fisker- | NO |
| 18:29.40 | Lunessa | *snicker* |
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| 18:30.02 | widger|work | Heya Lopeppeppy =) |
| 18:30.11 | Lunessa | They're going to do something about the shitty ATI1600 card in this machine. |
| 18:30.20 | Lopeppeppy | Why hello to you, Mister Widgets! |
| 18:30.23 | Crysli | Wow.I don't know how I ever managed to live without a mouse with >3 butttons. |
| 18:30.29 | Saint-N | douse it in kerosine and have a ritualistic burning? |
| 18:30.33 | Crysli | s/butttons/buttons |
| 18:30.57 | Saint-N | I don't know how I lived with my trackball at work |
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| 18:31.08 | Saint-N | I can't play games worth a shit on it but for non gaming it's awesome |
| 18:31.24 | Crysli | Trackball - that's like an upside-down mouse, right? |
| 18:31.42 | Saint-N | yeah sorta |
| 18:31.48 | Saint-N | you move the ball instead of the mouse |
| 18:31.52 | widger|work | Logitech has screwed the pooch on some stuff, but they managed to keep Microsoft away from being #1 on mice, and that's awesome |
| 18:31.54 | oreth| | that's what SHE said |
| 18:32.01 | oreth| | ... |
| 18:32.05 | Crysli | ... |
| 18:32.20 | Saint-N | well upside down mouse would put the buttons on the bottom ;P |
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| 18:32.23 | Saint-N | hence sorta |
| 18:32.30 | oreth| | i loved my trackball |
| 18:32.35 | oreth| | it was grea for UT |
| 18:32.46 | oreth| | 360 spin at a flick of the finger |
| 18:32.49 | Lunessa | Trackball = Lurv |
| 18:32.50 | Crysli | :O |
| 18:32.57 | Saint-N | I've got this logitech trackman "optical cordless" |
| 18:33.03 | Crysli | I luv my tablet but it's crappy for gaming. |
| 18:33.10 | oreth| | haha |
| 18:33.11 | oreth| | yeah |
| 18:33.17 | Saint-N | part of me wants a tablet so I can doodle properly |
| 18:33.32 | Saint-N | I can't draw with a mouse |
| 18:33.34 | Crysli | tablet == win |
| 18:33.36 | widger|work | *hugs his tablet* |
| 18:33.45 | Saint-N | but as a mouse replacement I find them irritating |
| 18:33.50 | Saint-N | one of my clients has one |
| 18:33.50 | Crysli | It saved my life when my old mouse broke down. |
| 18:33.57 | Saint-N | and to top it off he's left handed ;P |
| 18:34.31 | Cidan | WHAT IS UP MY HOME DOGS? |
| 18:34.43 | Crysli | Woof. |
| 18:34.50 | dylanm | SELLIN WEIGHT ON THE CORNER YOU KNOW HOW IT GO |
| 18:34.57 | Cidan | No, not really. |
| 18:35.01 | dylanm | OH |
| 18:35.01 | Cidan | But I'll take your word for it. |
| 18:35.03 | Saint-N | "we had the baldwins on once or twice, they're kind of like anmials... they even try to act like peoples |
| 18:35.26 | Saint-N | heh was listening to the 5 bouroughs by the beastie boys on the way in today |
| 18:35.36 | Saint-N | and I think I love thier song "hey fuck you" |
| 18:35.58 | Saint-N | its essentially a complete song about all the lame rappers stealing music from everybody else to make thier raps |
| 18:36.22 | Crysli | Did they steal music from anybody to make that song? |
| 18:36.38 | Saint-N | hehe no |
| 18:36.42 | Saint-N | hey |
| 18:36.42 | Crysli | Aww. |
| 18:36.50 | Crysli | That would've been epic. |
| 18:36.53 | Saint-N | is there a wiki plugin that would let you download wiki contents as a pdf? |
| 18:37.10 | Saint-N | complete with local stored pages? |
| 18:37.25 | Saint-N | not offsite links that is |
| 18:37.38 | Saint-N | that would be super handy |
| 18:37.48 | Cidan | I've never seen such a thing |
| 18:38.08 | Saint-N | go make me one for pm wiki ;P |
| 18:38.22 | Saint-N | ooo |
| 18:38.38 | Saint-N | or even better a website that crawls wikis for you and makes a pdf based on its findings for download |
| 18:38.56 | Crysli | And makes you dinner while it's at it. |
| 18:39.02 | Lopeppeppy | I do happen to be hungry. |
| 18:39.04 | Saint-N | no that's what women are for |
| 18:39.08 | Saint-N | ;) |
| 18:39.14 | Lopeppeppy | Saint-N, no wonder you're anorexic. |
| 18:39.17 | Saint-N | yeah |
| 18:39.24 | Saint-N | that and too much sugar as a kid |
| 18:39.31 | Crysli | Nom nom nom |
| 18:39.32 | Saint-N | my metabolism is crazy fast |
| 18:39.47 | Saint-N | I think I'm gonna get diabetes soon |
| 18:40.14 | Crysli | Diabetes is nature's way of saying "Hey man, lose some weight" |
| 18:40.22 | Saint-N | skinny people don't get it? |
| 18:40.24 | widger|work | ... |
| 18:40.32 | Crysli | They do too. |
| 18:40.36 | widger|work | Let's veer this conversation in another way. |
| 18:40.41 | widger|work | Who lies pi? |
| 18:40.45 | Saint-N | I always thought bedsores were natures way of saying lose weight |
| 18:40.57 | Saint-N | oh man |
| 18:40.57 | Crysli | That makes better sense. |
| 18:41.00 | Saint-N | speaking of |
| 18:41.08 | Crysli | widger|work: I have a craving for 3.14 |
| 18:41.09 | Saint-N | have you seen ricky gervais' latest standup |
| 18:41.20 | Saint-N | if not go rent it and enjoy |
| 18:41.35 | Saint-N | he's so friggin abrasive ... my god I was in tears watching it |
| 18:41.35 | Lopeppeppy | I like mine a bit more specific, Crysli, 3.14159. I find that it's a bit more piquant. |
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| 18:42.14 | Saint-N | http://xkcd.com/10/ |
| 18:42.15 | Crysli | You know Lopeppeppy, I think I'm going to try that. |
| 18:42.36 | Crysli | WTF |
| 18:42.44 | Saint-N | I find it amusing that no matter what we talk about in here, there is always an xkcd for it |
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| 18:43.24 | Crysli | Lat's make it a challenge. Find a topic and then an xkcd for it. |
| 18:43.25 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 18:43.29 | Crysli | Let's, even |
| 18:44.24 | Saint-N | and it we don't find a topic that's on there always this... http://xkcd.com/292/ |
| 18:44.43 | Saint-N | and it we don't find a topic that's on there there always this... http://xkcd.com/292/ |
| 18:44.49 | Saint-N | sweet |
| 18:45.14 | ScytheBlade1 | You know, I was expecting another one |
| 18:45.15 | Saint-N | xircon has inline find/replace |
| 18:45.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Moment as I find it |
| 18:45.30 | ScytheBlade1 | http://xkcd.com/330/ |
| 18:45.33 | ScytheBlade1 | There we go |
| 18:45.59 | Saint-N | well considering the contents of this channel "experiment" certainly is apt |
| 18:46.32 | Saint-N | lunessa didn't like being refered to as "contents" |
| 18:46.59 | Crysli | Not following you. |
| 18:47.08 | Crysli | Is that some sort of internal joke? |
| 18:47.25 | Saint-N | click the 330 one then bend over the desk, I'll show you what it means |
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| 18:47.43 | Crysli | Aye-aye cap'n |
| 18:48.27 | Saint-N | For your internet horroscope type /sign <astrological sign> |
| 18:48.27 | Lunessa | ...station |
| 18:48.38 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 18:50.30 | Crysli | Sometimes I really hate the EU interface forums. |
| 18:51.04 | zenzelezz | sometimes? |
| 18:51.10 | Crysli | Most of the time. |
| 18:52.05 | Crysli | There are rarely any interesting threads. |
| 18:52.18 | Saint-N | start some |
| 18:52.22 | Maldivia | ohh yeah... I'm so happy I have access to the US boards again ! |
| 18:52.29 | Saint-N | I reccomend "let us copy premades to the ptr" |
| 18:52.41 | Crysli | Lol |
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| 18:53.40 | Crysli | Hey Maldivia, do you actually have a custom UI or just a bunch of macros? ;) |
| 18:53.43 | Maldivia | anyone played with texture-tokens after yesterdays patch ? |
| 18:54.03 | Maldivia | Crysli: custom UI, why? |
| 18:54.22 | Crysli | As in why have a custom UI or why I'm asking? |
| 18:54.40 | Maldivia | why are you asking |
| 18:55.00 | Crysli | Dunno. Because I don't think I've ever seen you link yours. |
| 18:56.55 | Maldivia | hmm, lets see if I can find a screenshot somewhere - I've had the same UI more or less for the last 1½ year - yep, survived TBC |
| 18:58.35 | Cidan | it's variable width |
| 18:58.37 | Cidan | gdmf |
| 18:58.47 | Lopeppeppy | Cidan, darling, breathe. *hug* |
| 18:58.49 | Cidan | There goes the idea for auto-resizing font strings |
| 18:59.22 | Maldivia | Crysli: http://nerdheaven.dk/~the_real/wow/raidui.jpg -- looks more or less like this still, some more addons in fubar, that's about it :) |
| 18:59.50 | ScytheBlade1 | I miss that room :/ |
| 19:00.16 | Crysli | You're Danish? |
| 19:00.33 | Maldivia | yeah |
| 19:00.43 | Maldivia | don't hold it against me :) |
| 19:00.47 | deltron | I'm sorry? |
| 19:01.00 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 19:01.02 | Crysli | I won't. That makes three of us on the forums. |
| 19:01.02 | deltron | :D |
| 19:01.04 | Bela|work | is there any truth to the claim that they are adding a 30 second cooldown on Earth shield? |
| 19:01.11 | Crysli | Budding, you and I. |
| 19:01.14 | deltron | Bela|work: they better not |
| 19:01.22 | Cidan | Lopeppeppy: How are you? |
| 19:01.27 | Bela|work | thats what I heard in teh shaman forums, but I can't find a blue on it |
| 19:01.36 | Bela|work | and no, they better not |
| 19:01.40 | deltron | shaman have had more than their fair share of nerfs |
| 19:01.51 | Bela|work | its annoying enough that they screwed our GCD with the "buff" |
| 19:02.05 | deltron | eh? |
| 19:02.15 | Bela|work | half mana, only 6 globes |
| 19:02.35 | Bela|work | 2 casts for 12 globes seems better than the old 10 globes no? |
| 19:02.36 | deltron | oh yeah |
| 19:02.46 | Bela|work | but it goes down faster, meaning more casts, meaning more GCD |
| 19:02.50 | deltron | I like the old 12 globes |
| 19:02.53 | deltron | err 10 |
| 19:02.59 | Bela|work | and we are already never in the 5 second rule |
| 19:03.06 | deltron | I'm constantly in GCD |
| 19:03.13 | Bela|work | that spirit change does nothing for resto shamans |
| 19:03.16 | deltron | even more so since I'm now enhancement |
| 19:03.29 | Bela|work | we rarely get the "while not casting" mana |
| 19:03.35 | deltron | yep |
| 19:03.47 | deltron | that's why I have to stack mp5 gear |
| 19:03.53 | Bela|work | well, except between pulls, when we are drinking anyway |
| 19:03.54 | Crysli | Well, I'm off - going to a friend's. |
| 19:03.58 | deltron | bai |
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| 19:04.21 | Crysli | Bai |
| 19:04.29 | deltron | it's a ton better now that at least resto shaman have correct gear itemization from blizzard |
| 19:04.30 | Maldivia | later |
| 19:04.48 | Crysli|social | I finally have an excuse for using that nick. |
| 19:04.55 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 19:04.57 | deltron | welcome to the social |
| 19:05.25 | Maldivia | hehe... I actually found a screenshot of my UI befire the one I have now... looks very alike |
| 19:06.02 | Bela|work | I can't complain too much, I do very well |
| 19:06.05 | Crysli|social | I have a screenshot form back when I started playing. It's horrid. |
| 19:06.06 | Bela|work | but I am overly geared |
| 19:06.09 | Crysli|social | I should get going. |
| 19:06.25 | Bela|work | and I really dont think they should be messing with resto now |
| 19:06.32 | Bela|work | its about right where it should be |
| 19:06.37 | Maldivia | Crysli|social: http://nerdheaven.dk/~the_real/wow/manacolor.jpg <-- is around nov 2005 :) |
| 19:07.41 | deltron | my resto set is only really missing a new healing weapon, I'm still using the mace from maiden |
| 19:08.04 | deltron | wtb illidan mace for off-spec :) |
| 19:08.38 | Lopeppeppy | WTB Tier 5 before I die. |
| 19:09.05 | Bela|work | it doesn't help that the Shaman CM is like, missing |
| 19:09.15 | Bela|work | they have someone filling in |
| 19:14.59 | wereHamster | Maldivia, wow, I didn't know such clock-addon existed in 2005 :) |
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| 19:15.28 | Obelix | I've made a addon for wow. When I log on the button is in the centre of screen but is movable with the right mouse button. When I visit the bank of auction for exampel the fram is repositioned at the center again. How do I stop this for happening and also how to save it position for the next time I logging in? |
| 19:16.09 | wereHamster | Obelix, without any code, we can only guess the reasons |
| 19:19.45 | Obelix | I'm new to irc and english isn't my primary language: pastey-place? |
| 19:20.10 | wereHamster | http://wowi.pastey.net |
| 19:20.48 | Lopeppeppy | It was in the topic at the top, Obelix, sorry, I made an assumption. wereHamster, thanks for offering better hospitality than the Peppy! :) |
| 19:21.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Buhahaha |
| 19:21.50 | ScytheBlade1 | [Zootfizzle] whispers: Invite! |
| 19:22.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Of course, because I wasn't looking at the monitor at the time, he's now afk... |
| 19:23.32 | Cairenn | Antiarc|zzzzz: ping |
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| 19:25.45 | Obelix | http://wowi.pastey.net/82299 |
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| 19:28.50 | Atriace | I noticed the Widget method includes IsShown to test for frame visibility but no "IsNotShown"... |
| 19:29.05 | Atriace | How would you test for that? Something like: if not SomeFrame:IsShown() then ? |
| 19:29.06 | wereHamster | Atriace, no IsShown() ? |
| 19:29.16 | wereHamster | exactly |
| 19:29.18 | Cidan | if not frame:IsShow() -- this |
| 19:29.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Whee, Zoot is now guilded on the PTR |
| 19:29.46 | Cidan | IsShown, even, D: |
| 19:29.52 | Atriace | Great... then something else isn't working becuase it's not doing what I want. :) |
| 19:30.18 | Cidan | Are you sure you mean IsShown? |
| 19:30.22 | Cidan | Or do you mean IsVisible? |
| 19:30.54 | Atriace | I'm pretty sure IsShown |
| 19:31.08 | Atriace | oh here wait... |
| 19:31.10 | wereHamster | do you know the difference? |
| 19:31.53 | Atriace | I've read the difference on WoWWiki, but it appears blizzard set the visibility to change based on alt-z. I suppose that's what I should really be testing for. |
| 19:32.25 | Cidan | IsShown returns true even if the frame is hidden, so long as frame:Show() was last called; ie: you set the frame to a parent, hide the parent, but call frame:Show(), even though the frame is hidden because the parent is hidden, IsShown will return true. |
| 19:32.29 | wereHamster | alt-z it show/hide interface, right? |
| 19:32.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 19:32.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, by default anyways |
| 19:32.37 | Atriace | Aye |
| 19:32.51 | Cidan | Has nothing to do with Alt-Z, etc. |
| 19:32.53 | |Jelly| | ~sigh |
| 19:32.53 | purl | *sigh* |
| 19:32.56 | Atriace | Actually, that'd be even nice. If WoW fired off an event whenever you hit Alt-Z. :) |
| 19:33.09 | Atriace | But it doesn't.... /sadpanda |
| 19:33.12 | Lunessa | that would be nice. |
| 19:33.15 | Cidan | IsVisible on the other hand, returns the actual logical visible state |
| 19:33.25 | Atriace | alright... testing. |
| 19:33.29 | widger|work | Securehook UIParent's OnHide handler |
| 19:33.33 | wereHamster | Atriace, use OnHide/OnShow? |
| 19:35.01 | Atriace | I know how to use Widget Handler calls from within XML, but not within Lua. How would I check for OnHide/OnShow from within Lua for UIParent? |
| 19:35.30 | wereHamster | these are callbacks, they are called by WoW.exe |
| 19:36.20 | wereHamster | like OnEvent |
| 19:36.28 | Obelix | http://wowi.pastey.net/82302 |
| 19:38.00 | Cidan | Obelix: Explain to me the problem again. |
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| 19:38.14 | Cidan | Obelix: You have a button that you can move around, right? |
| 19:38.43 | Obelix | aye, with LCTRL + RMOUSE |
| 19:38.59 | Cidan | okay, so then what happens? You said something about the AH. |
| 19:40.30 | Obelix | When I logg on the button is centred. When I visit for exampel the auction or bank it's back to the center. |
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| 19:40.49 | Cidan | So when you visit the AH, the button moves to the center by it self? |
| 19:40.55 | Cidan | Even after you move it else where? |
| 19:41.52 | Obelix | yes |
| 19:41.58 | Obelix | but not always |
| 19:42.05 | Cidan | Well on the pastey, I don't understand why you did lines 20-22 |
| 19:42.10 | Cidan | rather, 20 and 21 |
| 19:42.30 | Obelix | the lua or the xml? |
| 19:42.40 | Cidan | the XML pastey |
| 19:42.46 | Cidan | lines 20 and 21 |
| 19:43.17 | Cidan | wouldn't that cause it to loop forever if you clicked on it? |
| 19:43.36 | Cidan | Oh nevermind, you've got lua behind it. |
| 19:43.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Peppy, what was your paladin's name? |
| 19:43.47 | Cidan | Okay, so nevermind |
| 19:43.57 | Cidan | Hm |
| 19:44.24 | Lopeppeppy | ScytheBlade1, Kirwan. |
| 19:44.38 | Cidan | Forgive me, I do not use XML for my code. D: Let's see, uh, it all checks out... |
| 19:44.51 | ScytheBlade1 | That's what I thought, but it turns out we had 2 70 pallies sign the charter... and I only recall one. ;) |
| 19:45.24 | wereHamster | what's the wowi-lounge guild on the ptr? |
| 19:45.25 | Lopeppeppy | I am the bestest Kirwan ever. |
| 19:45.31 | wereHamster | .. the name? |
| 19:45.32 | ScytheBlade1 | And I have no doubts of that ;) |
| 19:46.11 | Cidan | Obelix: So when you open the AH it just... poof, moves? |
| 19:46.27 | Lopeppeppy | ... um, devNull, wereHamster? I'm honestly not sure, I just kinda clicked where ScytheBlade1 said to click. |
| 19:48.23 | Obelix | Yes, but not always. I don't know what triggers it but a scan with the auctioneer did trigger it just now. |
| 19:49.02 | Cidan | I wonder |
| 19:49.04 | Cidan | do this |
| 19:49.07 | Cidan | rename your frame |
| 19:49.12 | Cidan | something else |
| 19:49.16 | Cidan | name it something random |
| 19:49.30 | Cidan | or add some extra vars to the end |
| 19:49.37 | Cidan | This is why I don't name frames, :/ |
| 19:49.57 | Obelix | How do you do it? |
| 19:50.05 | Obelix | This is my first addon. |
| 19:50.24 | Cidan | No no, don't worry, almost everyone uses XML, etc. I'm the "odd child" of this channel. |
| 19:50.38 | Cidan | I do it all in Lua |
| 19:50.43 | ScytheBlade1 | (He's a freak, but a helpful freak) |
| 19:50.45 | Cidan | local f = CreateFrame("frame"); |
| 19:50.48 | Cidan | etc |
| 19:51.26 | Cidan | f:SetScript("OnMouseDown", ...); and so on |
| 19:51.38 | Cidan | But rename that frame, I suspect something else is using getglobal to move it |
| 19:51.54 | Cidan | it's a somewhat generic name, FrameBlockTrades |
| 19:52.44 | Cidan | also, when you name children, name it $parentName |
| 19:52.52 | Cidan | ie: $parentTextureBlockTrades |
| 19:53.36 | Saint-N | booo |
| 19:53.45 | Saint-N | that really awesome job that the guy wants to hire me for I can't have |
| 19:53.46 | wereHamster | Cidan, I didn't find any reference to FrameBlockTrades in the wow interface.. |
| 19:53.50 | Obelix | ie I should rename all TextureBlockTrades to $parentTextureBlockTrades ? |
| 19:53.53 | Lopeppeppy | Why not, Saint-N? |
| 19:53.56 | Saint-N | cuz I don't own a car to be on call |
| 19:54.09 | Lopeppeppy | That is an obstacle. |
| 19:54.11 | Saint-N | and its a 1.5hour train cummute from my house or a 35min drive |
| 19:54.13 | Saint-N | yeah |
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| 19:54.21 | Saint-N | oh and I'll be up in albany next weekish |
| 19:54.46 | Saint-N | they figured that 89$ for the train and lunch was a much better deal than attempting it themselves |
| 19:54.55 | Cidan | wereHamster: But he's using other addons |
| 19:54.59 | Saint-N | and paying shipping |
| 19:55.35 | Cidan | Obelix: Yes, in the XML, and if you use getglobal in the Lua, you must use getglobal("FrameBlockTradesTextureBlockTrades"); etc |
| 19:55.44 | Cidan | or some varient there of |
| 19:55.53 | Lopeppeppy | Saint-N, let me know when-ish and maybe there's lunch in it. I work much further north though, so depends on the day/time stuffs. |
| 19:56.14 | Saint-N | okies, they're like irght near the capital building I think |
| 19:56.20 | Saint-N | swan st or something |
| 19:56.30 | Saint-N | right |
| 19:56.38 | Nechckn | goodness, I take it you are making reference to Albany, NY? |
| 19:56.47 | Saint-N | no silly |
| 19:56.48 | Lopeppeppy | Yup. |
| 19:56.53 | Saint-N | new york city is the capital of new york ;P |
| 19:56.58 | Cidan | ... |
| 19:57.03 | Lopeppeppy | ... |
| 19:57.08 | Lopeppeppy | Brat. |
| 19:57.11 | Saint-N | hey |
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| 19:57.16 | Saint-N | I lived in canada and vancouver |
| 19:57.18 | Lopeppeppy | If the boot fits, babe. |
| 19:57.32 | Nechckn | mmmhhhmmm... any whoo.. I was just wondering since i have alot offamily around there is all. |
| 19:57.34 | Saint-N | I've heard "toronto is the capital" and "vancouver is the capital of bc" so many times.... |
| 19:58.00 | Saint-N | it's ottowaw and victoria respectively for the slow kids btw |
| 19:58.10 | Saint-N | ottawa |
| 19:58.10 | Obelix | I'm not using getglobat that I know of |
| 19:58.25 | Lopeppeppy | Nechckn, yeah, we were babbling Albany NY. It's a pretty place once you're out of the city. |
| 19:58.49 | Saint-N | heh that's like new jersey |
| 19:59.00 | Saint-N | it's a nice place once you're in new york of Penn. |
| 19:59.01 | Nechckn | it's cool.. just rare to hear anyone talk about it is all. |
| 19:59.06 | Saint-N | it's a nice place once you're in new york or Penn. |
| 19:59.25 | Saint-N | no I'm kidding |
| 19:59.29 | Saint-N | it still sucks |
| 19:59.31 | Saint-N | ;) |
| 19:59.38 | Cidan | D: |
| 19:59.41 | Nechckn | I've been here in DC for so long now, I miss *real* winters. Originally from just South of Buffalo. |
| 19:59.56 | Cidan | Nechckn: You're in DC too? |
| 19:59.59 | Cidan | Nechckn: Where about? |
| 20:00.01 | Nechckn | yep, yep |
| 20:00.05 | Saint-N | http://alienlovespredator.com/index.php?I'd=1 |
| 20:00.12 | Nechckn | right near Logan Circle |
| 20:00.16 | Lunessa | DC area is fun to live in. Just expensive. |
| 20:00.42 | Saint-N | http://alienlovespredator.com/index.php?I'd=12 |
| 20:00.44 | Saint-N | http://alienlovespredator.com/index.php?I'd=13 |
| 20:00.50 | Saint-N | those 3 comics sum up new york city |
| 20:00.53 | Cidan | Nechckn: Neat, I live outside the city in VA, Falls Church |
| 20:00.55 | Nechckn | Yeah, I bought a house just in time.. since I got to sell my old one just in time too =) |
| 20:01.11 | Cidan | Nechckn: And Shirik is from here too, but he's in FL for school. he comes up here during breaks. |
| 20:01.35 | Nechckn | Cidan I go to a doc out there and have been all around for work, etc. Hmm, that's cool, I'll have to keep that in mind |
| 20:01.52 | Lunessa | Cidan, I lived in Manassas for 8 years. |
| 20:02.08 | Cidan | Nechckn: Ya, Shirik and I went out to dinner once, I kicked him in the nuts, he tugged on my love boat. It was fun. |
| 20:02.15 | Lopeppeppy | ... perv |
| 20:02.21 | Cidan | Lopeppeppy: Duh. |
| 20:02.26 | Nechckn | Yow...... goodness.... and such |
| 20:02.28 | Lopeppeppy | I miss all the fun. |
| 20:02.34 | Obelix | How do I use getglobal? |
| 20:02.36 | Cidan | Lunessa: Manassas is nice, I like it anyways. |
| 20:02.47 | Cidan | Obelix: Unless you need it, don't bother. :P |
| 20:03.21 | Nechckn | BoozeAllenandHamilton have a nice joint out in Manassas |
| 20:03.29 | Lunessa | Yes, I had a house out there. |
| 20:03.32 | Lunessa | Pretty. |
| 20:03.57 | Nechckn | very country.. I'm sure alot would be surprised who think of DC as a "city" |
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| 20:04.44 | Cidan | Ya. DC is nice because it's such a mix of city and country |
| 20:04.44 | Cidan | I can drive for 10 min and feel like I'm back in southern Virginia again |
| 20:04.56 | Nechckn | I lived there, too =) |
| 20:05.14 | Cidan | Where at? |
| 20:05.16 | Nechckn | Virginia Beach, actually.. so not really Virginia ehhehehe |
| 20:05.34 | Maldivia | wereHamster: about the clock addon, I think it was the first, made it myself, using the line library Iriel made |
| 20:05.37 | Cidan | Oh, I meant Southwest, :P |
| 20:05.41 | Cidan | I lived in Blacksburg |
| 20:05.43 | Lunessa | VA Beach. Nice to visit. |
| 20:06.00 | Nechckn | See, Blacksburg et al- Real Virginia |
| 20:06.13 | Cidan | It's purdy down there. |
| 20:06.20 | Cidan | Just nothing to do. |
| 20:06.29 | Nechckn | yeah.. that's a fact. |
| 20:07.07 | Nechckn | well, I'd say there's Richmond, but I wouldn't want to suggest there was anything to do there. |
| 20:07.20 | Cidan | Too far |
| 20:07.28 | Cidan | Richmond is so out of the way, :/ |
| 20:07.31 | Cidan | And it's a slum |
| 20:07.47 | Nechckn | really.. from Blacksburg? like an hour and a half.. or more? |
| 20:07.51 | Cidan | more |
| 20:07.52 | Cidan | much more |
| 20:08.03 | Cidan | almost three hours |
| 20:08.14 | Cidan | Roanoke is better, but it's... hm |
| 20:08.18 | Cidan | It's like the poor-mans ghetto. |
| 20:08.22 | Cidan | If that makes sense. |
| 20:08.33 | Nechckn | oh no way... I'll have to consult my map =) western VA and I are not very acquainted, for many of the reasons you have mentioned |
| 20:09.07 | Nechckn | There is some crazy "funiture town" out there though.. do you know what I mean? |
| 20:09.46 | Nechckn | basically a factory took over a failing town and now the whole place is all devoted to a single company- all the old mainstreet shops are all now part of it, etc. |
| 20:09.55 | Cidan | Nope, no idea. |
| 20:10.29 | Lunessa | VMWare Fusion is teh sex |
| 20:10.49 | Nechckn | hehehe never heard it put quite that way |
| 20:11.11 | Cidan | Lunessa: Is it? |
| 20:12.26 | Lunessa | I'm digging it. My Windows Apps running next to my OSX apps.... |
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| 20:15.01 | batrick | hello friends |
| 20:15.27 | Maldivia | evening |
| 20:15.32 | Cidan | batrick: No. |
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| 20:16.56 | oreth| | oh jesus |
| 20:16.58 | oreth| | it's friday |
| 20:17.00 | oreth| | i can't concentrate |
| 20:17.11 | oreth| | and i just wanna stage dive onto a bed of nails |
| 20:17.27 | Saint-N | pervert |
| 20:17.27 | oreth| | i have no OFFICIAL work to do |
| 20:17.39 | oreth| | so, i'm working with python web dev |
| 20:17.52 | oreth| | seeing if I can't integrate python with uor proprietary tools at work |
| 20:17.52 | widger|work | Vaya con dios |
| 20:18.00 | oreth| | cause that would be very \m/ |
| 20:20.28 | Cidan | Lunessa: I wish they would release if for linux, :/ |
| 20:21.05 | Lunessa | VMWare doesn't have a linux product? |
| 20:21.12 | wereHamster | they do |
| 20:21.13 | Saint-N | oreth: make me a site that would crawl topics on wikis and generate a pdf complete with topics chapters etc but only span local(on the wiki) links |
| 20:21.25 | Saint-N | fusion is nix happy |
| 20:21.31 | Saint-N | it exist for everything |
| 20:21.44 | Cidan | Lunessa: They do, but not fusion I thought. |
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| 20:21.55 | Cidan | I thought Fusion was mac only |
| 20:21.58 | Saint-N | hey for vm fusion can you use an existing partition as the source or does it need to be fresh installed? |
| 20:22.14 | Saint-N | vmx or something |
| 20:22.15 | Cidan | The main reason I want to use fusion is for the DX support |
| 20:22.23 | Saint-N | I don't remember what it's called but yeah |
| 20:22.51 | batrick | Cidan: ??? |
| 20:22.52 | batrick | :( |
| 20:23.05 | Cidan | It's unlikely that it's "Fusion" with DX8.1 support |
| 20:23.12 | Cidan | because fusion > wine on linux, right now. |
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| 20:31.22 | Saint-N | don't ya hate itwhen you've got more than one computer in your office/room and only one is turned on but you just heard a bios post beep? |
| 20:31.36 | Saint-N | and you're notsure where it came from? |
| 20:32.35 | Cidan | I have a boot up script on all my computers, each one will beep a different tone on boot. |
| 20:32.40 | Cidan | So I know which computer is booting |
| 20:32.54 | Saint-N | heh |
| 20:33.08 | Saint-N | if any other compuers were actually plugged in aside from this one that might be useful |
| 20:33.17 | Saint-N | but nothing else is ;P |
| 20:33.46 | Saint-N | hrm maybe I'll play with virtual pc today |
| 20:33.50 | Saint-N | or just go home ;P |
| 20:33.53 | Saint-N | one of the two |
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| 20:35.49 | Lunessa | Fusion has "Experimental" support for Dx 9.1 - which will do WoW. |
| 20:36.07 | Lunessa | Of course, I can run WoW as a native Mac OSX app anyway. |
| 20:36.19 | Saint-N | and wow runs better on mac than pc |
| 20:36.23 | Saint-N | with the same hardware |
| 20:36.28 | Saint-N | <-- tested on hackintosh |
| 20:36.32 | Lunessa | Yes, actually, it does. |
| 20:36.49 | Nechckn | Cidan http://www.greenfront.com/directions.html that is what I was talking about |
| 20:36.57 | Saint-N | I was actually surprised by how greatly it differs |
| 20:37.34 | Cidan | Nechckn: Huh, never seen it |
| 20:38.11 | ScytheBlade1 | SELECT * FROM logData WHERE (v2 = "Fireball" OR v2 = "Scorch" OR v2 = "Frostbolt") AND event = "SPELL_CAST_START" AND logId = "82160947-2cef-102b-a32f-4c7d905b1559" ORDER BY timestamp; |
| 20:38.13 | Nechckn | Yeah.. like I was saying, it's a big overnight trip destination for the 40+ DC set- I kid you not. |
| 20:38.15 | ScytheBlade1 | This is really much too fun |
| 20:41.05 | Cidan | ScytheBlade1: combat log output? |
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| 20:41.28 | Cidan | ScytheBlade1: Question: Does the combat log output to disk in real time as the fight happens? |
| 20:41.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Cidan: yup, I've got ~400k rows in a database |
| 20:41.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Not in real time, but a LOT more often than previously |
| 20:41.55 | ScytheBlade1 | I've seen it update as often as once per minute |
| 20:41.59 | ScytheBlade1 | (ish) |
| 20:42.01 | Cidan | Not bad, not bad. |
| 20:42.26 | Cidan | I suppose that's to prevent automation abuse |
| 20:43.10 | Saint-N | can I use existing partitions as the source of a VM in fusion? |
| 20:43.13 | ScytheBlade1 | That and a massive number of hard drive seeks :) |
| 20:43.26 | Saint-N | I've never actually played fully with it |
| 20:43.30 | Cidan | Saint-N: No clue |
| 20:43.35 | Lunessa | one sec.. busy |
| 20:43.38 | Saint-N | k |
| 20:43.39 | Cidan | ScytheBlade1: Neh, it's not a problem. |
| 20:43.49 | Cidan | ScytheBlade1: Everquest 2 does it without a hitch. |
| 20:43.52 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 20:44.13 | Lunessa | Yes, it found my bootcamp partition just fine |
| 20:44.18 | Saint-N | oh did you see ms releaseing Detours? |
| 20:44.25 | Saint-N | Lunessa: groovy |
| 20:44.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Playing with this data with SQL is awesome fun |
| 20:44.28 | mikma | can you jump with macro? :P |
| 20:44.33 | mikma | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:46.08 | ScytheBlade1 | | 2/10 20:38:52.006 | SPELL_DAMAGE | Urzah | Kalecgos | 27070 | Fireball | 0x4 | 5709 | |
| 20:46.19 | ScytheBlade1 | 5.7k fireball |
| 20:46.34 | Maldivia | 0x4 = fire damage ? |
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| 20:46.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes |
| 20:46.58 | Maldivia | storing everything as strings, or? |
| 20:47.05 | ScytheBlade1 | I am currently, but I need to change that |
| 20:47.24 | ScytheBlade1 | ~50MB of .txt is currently stored in 141MB, heh |
| 20:47.25 | purl | okay, ScytheBlade1 |
| 20:47.32 | ScytheBlade1 | purl, forget that |
| 20:47.32 | purl | i didn't have anything called 'that' to forget, ScytheBlade1 |
| 20:47.35 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 20:47.45 | ScytheBlade1 | ~50MB of text |
| 20:47.49 | ScytheBlade1 | .... |
| 20:47.52 | ScytheBlade1 | To the whispers! |
| 20:48.04 | Maldivia | purl, 50MB of .txt |
| 20:48.05 | purl | 50mb of .txt is probably currently stored in 141MB, heh |
| 20:48.20 | Maldivia | purl, forget 50MB of .txt |
| 20:48.20 | purl | i forgot 50mb of .txt, Maldivia |
| 20:48.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Stupid tilde |
| 20:48.43 | ScytheBlade1 | ty |
| 20:49.38 | Maldivia | hope you have a good DB setup aswell, if you're planning on having a lot of logs :) |
| 20:50.06 | ScytheBlade1 | We'll see ;) |
| 20:50.14 | Falcon213 | quick question: is there a way with lua to get the index of the current item in a string-indexed table when using a foreach? |
| 20:50.28 | cladhaire | don't use foreach |
| 20:50.45 | cladhaire | lua> t = {1,2,3, foo = "Apple"}; for k,v in pairs(t) do print(k,v) end |
| 20:50.45 | lua_bot | cladhaire: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, foo, Apple |
| 20:50.46 | Maldivia | well, foreach will still give the key, right? |
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| 20:51.39 | Maldivia | lua> table.foreach({1,2,3,4}, function(k,v) print(k,v) end) |
| 20:51.40 | lua_bot | Maldivia: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4, 4 |
| 20:51.44 | Falcon213 | I have a table with npc names as the key, and the number of people targeting them as the value |
| 20:52.21 | cladhaire | lua> table.foreach({1,2,3,foo="Apple"}, function(k,v) print(k,v) end) |
| 20:52.21 | lua_bot | cladhaire: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, foo, Apple |
| 20:52.27 | cladhaire | so it does :P |
| 20:52.33 | cladhaire | Maldivia: thanks |
| 20:52.59 | ScytheBlade1 | I didn't strip the newlines out :( |
| 20:53.05 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 20:53.23 | ScytheBlade1 | I could probably fix this with a query, but that's a lot of columns |
| 20:53.59 | Maldivia | update table set col=replace(col, "\n", "") ? |
| 20:54.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Times 20 columns |
| 20:54.55 | cladhaire | so use lua to generate the statement for oyu |
| 20:54.56 | cladhaire | win! |
| 20:54.59 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 20:55.08 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm still typing all of the column names :( |
| 20:55.16 | Falcon213 | I don't quite get that foreach statement.. I see what it's doing, but it doesn't quite make sense |
| 20:55.30 | cladhaire | Falcon213: it runs a function on each pair in the table. |
| 20:55.54 | cladhaire | function table.foreach(tbl, func) for k,v in pairs(tbl) do func(k,v) end |
| 20:55.57 | cladhaire | or so |
| 20:56.47 | Falcon213 | ok, thanks |
| 20:57.44 | Maldivia | sb1: how are you partitioning the data? |
| 20:57.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Maldivia: ? |
| 20:58.25 | Maldivia | sb1: your DB design... are you storing everything i on table, or for instance creating a table for each log? |
| 20:58.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Everything in one table for now |
| 20:59.06 | Maldivia | that can become really slow really fast :) |
| 20:59.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup :) |
| 20:59.28 | ScytheBlade1 | To put it lightly :) |
| 20:59.57 | cladhaire | i think i'm in the worst group ever |
| 21:00.01 | Maldivia | I would probably choose to dynamically create a new table for each new log-id, and then have a view for it |
| 21:00.05 | cladhaire | druid, druid, rogue, hunter, mage |
| 21:00.14 | Maldivia | cladhaire: depends for what? |
| 21:00.21 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Mark___ (n=chatzill@82-37-198-89.cable.ubr05.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 21:00.27 | cladhaire | i ask who's tanming, who's healing. the druid says "I do great DPS as moonkin" |
| 21:00.30 | Mark___ | hi all |
| 21:01.01 | Mark___ | really new to wow would anyone be kind enough to help with a problem i am having |
| 21:01.01 | cladhaire | me: "Uhh.. we need a tank, and a healer. We're the onlyt wo that can do that. Given that I'm feral, I'll tank" |
| 21:01.10 | cladhaire | now they are discussing what loot they have dibs on |
| 21:01.14 | cladhaire | this is plastered with "win" |
| 21:01.31 | Maldivia | Mark: ask, and we'll see if we can answer |
| 21:01.53 | Mark___ | kk cool ty |
| 21:01.58 | Maldivia | cladhaire: hehe... sounds like a good puke... ehh... pug |
| 21:02.11 | cladhaire | yeah, awesome, heh |
| 21:02.11 | Mark___ | k i made a trial version and have been playin about a week |
| 21:02.24 | Mark___ | bought full game tofay but not installed yet |
| 21:02.44 | Mark___ | anyway, i downloaded full ersion of game rather than usin streaming version |
| 21:03.18 | Maldivia | there's no difference of the version of the game that's on the CDs/DVD in the retail version and the version you downloaded |
| 21:03.25 | Maldivia | so no need to reinstall from the discs |
| 21:03.26 | Mark___ | ve started using it but for some reason i cant get on my usual realm |
| 21:03.42 | Mark___ | started on anaxhronos |
| 21:03.51 | Mark___ | *anachronos |
| 21:03.55 | Cidan | You don't need to reinstall... |
| 21:04.06 | Mark___ | for some reason its switched me to darnassus |
| 21:04.10 | Cidan | Just login with your account |
| 21:04.13 | cladhaire | you can re-select your realm |
| 21:04.15 | Cidan | So hit "Change Realm" |
| 21:04.31 | ScytheBlade1 | -.- |
| 21:04.33 | ScytheBlade1 | I still have newlines.. |
| 21:04.37 | Mark___ | yeah i am but doesnt seeem to be working. |
| 21:04.44 | Maldivia | sb1: remembering to clear both \r and \n ? |
| 21:04.50 | Mark___ | you know the main screen where ur player shows |
| 21:04.54 | Cidan | Yes. |
| 21:05.16 | Mark___ | shows realm at top of screen in grey |
| 21:05.25 | Mark___ | then player name |
| 21:05.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Maldivia: sounds like you have a point |
| 21:05.32 | Falcon213 | Mark___: there's a button that says "change realm", hit that |
| 21:05.49 | Mark___ | yeah i do |
| 21:06.00 | Mark___ | its showa list where my player is |
| 21:06.04 | Mark___ | i slect it |
| 21:06.16 | Mark___ | but realm doesnt change |
| 21:06.37 | Saint-N | when it pops highlight/double click it |
| 21:06.38 | nevcairiel | did you explicitly select anachronos in the realm list? |
| 21:06.44 | Cidan | What realm did you say it was? |
| 21:06.46 | Saint-N | it updates every now and again |
| 21:06.53 | Saint-N | so it may be defaulting back |
| 21:06.56 | Falcon213 | does it say "down" next to the realm name? |
| 21:06.58 | Saint-N | since yer sooo slow ;P |
| 21:07.11 | Cidan | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/child-forum.html?forumId=11119&sid=1 |
| 21:07.15 | Cidan | I see no such realm name. |
| 21:07.19 | Mark___ | nah |
| 21:07.19 | Cidan | Am I on crack? |
| 21:07.23 | Maldivia | Cidan: EU |
| 21:07.28 | Mark___ | eu yes |
| 21:07.32 | Maldivia | Cidan: in the Nightfall battlegroup :) |
| 21:07.39 | Cidan | Oh right, EU. |
| 21:07.42 | Cidan | That would do it |
| 21:07.48 | Mark___ | should the realm be grey? |
| 21:07.55 | cladhaire | damn americans thinking they're the center of the universe! |
| 21:07.59 | Saint-N | that means its down/broken |
| 21:08.09 | Cidan | cladhaire: Lulz. |
| 21:08.15 | cladhaire | :P |
| 21:08.25 | Valaron|Work | l |
| 21:08.29 | Valaron|Work | Hrm |
| 21:08.45 | Saint-N | everyone knows that the center is AlphaPrimus 12 |
| 21:08.49 | Saint-N | duh |
| 21:09.23 | Mark___ | can i show u guys a screengrab? |
| 21:09.28 | Saint-N | attack earth... wha? yes I know its a shluf just attack it |
| 21:10.03 | Maldivia | Anachonos should be up, I can select it from my realm list |
| 21:10.22 | Mark___ | http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=helpmw6.jpg |
| 21:10.28 | Mark___ | thats what i see |
| 21:10.48 | Maldivia | Mark: yes, the realm name is always grey there |
| 21:10.55 | Falcon213 | so.. double click your character name |
| 21:10.59 | Falcon213 | and you're in |
| 21:11.18 | Mark___ | why does it show darnassus underneath? |
| 21:11.29 | Falcon213 | cause that's where your character is |
| 21:11.36 | Maldivia | Mark: because your character is in Darnassus right now |
| 21:11.39 | Mark___ | eh? sorry? |
| 21:11.43 | Maldivia | Mark: the city in game |
| 21:12.00 | Mark___ | darnnassus is in ancach? |
| 21:12.07 | Falcon213 | it's a location in the game |
| 21:12.12 | Maldivia | Mark: last time you played, you logged out in the city called Darnassus, the capital of the night elves |
| 21:12.47 | Saint-N | wow, you guys ARE nice |
| 21:12.48 | Mark___ | so darnasssus is a town in anachronos? |
| 21:12.52 | Maldivia | yes |
| 21:12.57 | Mark___ | ahhh lol |
| 21:12.58 | Cidan | Simply put, yes. |
| 21:13.01 | Saint-N | anachronos is the name of the server |
| 21:13.02 | Maldivia | well, darnassus exists on all servers |
| 21:13.05 | Mark___ | lmao |
| 21:13.15 | Saint-N | completely seperate from any "Real world" location |
| 21:13.16 | Mark___ | wonder how i got there |
| 21:13.24 | Cidan | Mark___: You start right next to it. |
| 21:13.26 | Mark___ | brb |
| 21:13.38 | Mark___ | :D gunna go look lol |
| 21:13.56 | Falcon213 | so you didn't even try to log in? >_< |
| 21:13.59 | Cidan | It's one of the main 4 cities for the alliance. |
| 21:14.12 | Saint-N | Cidan: I had Oh sweet jesus, how could you.. typed and then backed up ;P |
| 21:14.21 | Cidan | Saint-N: lol |
| 21:14.30 | Cidan | Everyone's a nub at some point |
| 21:14.37 | Mark___ | heh |
| 21:14.46 | Mark___ | if id only looked at map |
| 21:14.49 | Mark___ | :D |
| 21:15.05 | Saint-N | ifyou looked at the map to find out where you ere you wouldnt be male |
| 21:15.07 | Saint-N | ;) |
| 21:15.10 | Saint-N | anyways home time |
| 21:15.17 | Mark___ | honestly never been to that town before lol |
| 21:15.29 | Mark___ | cheers guys mucho apprciated |
| 21:15.34 | Maldivia | Mark: if you had logged out out side of Darnassus, it would probably have read Teldrasil on the character selection screen, as that's the name of the zone Darnassus is loacated in |
| 21:15.47 | Mark___ | ahh right |
| 21:15.56 | cladhaire | well now you can check it off your list of things to do while visiting azeroth :P |
| 21:16.03 | Mark___ | heh |
| 21:16.11 | Mark___ | am i cool to idle here |
| 21:16.12 | Mark___ | ?. |
| 21:16.16 | Cidan | no |
| 21:16.18 | Cidan | you have to /quit |
| 21:16.23 | Cidan | and by no, I mean yes. |
| 21:16.24 | Cidan | You're fine |
| 21:16.28 | Mark___ | ty |
| 21:16.43 | Mark___ | bbl with some other daft question :D |
| 21:16.53 | Maldivia | :) |
| 21:17.13 | Mark___ | <irc://chat.freenode.net/wowi-lounge> will now open at startup. <---- ur stuck with me now :D |
| 21:17.20 | Cairenn | heh |
| 21:17.24 | Mark___ | bbl cheers again |
| 21:17.29 | Cidan | So |
| 21:17.31 | Cidan | rofl@headline |
| 21:17.33 | Cidan | Congratulations Newark, NJ on making it 30 consecutive days without killing someone. |
| 21:17.34 | Cairenn | :) |
| 21:17.39 | Cairenn | lol |
| 21:17.53 | Mark___ | damn looks like ive got a long walk ahead of me |
| 21:18.03 | Mark___ | :/ |
| 21:18.28 | Cidan | Mark___: Be sure to tag all the flight points you can. |
| 21:18.41 | Mark___ | tag? flightpoints? |
| 21:18.44 | Cidan | Mark___: before you ask, they show up as green "boots" on your map. |
| 21:19.05 | Mark___ | erm k |
| 21:19.06 | Falcon213 | green exclamation marks on the mini map |
| 21:19.16 | Cidan | Mark___: Talk to the person at said place on the map, you can then fly (for a small fee) to any other flight point on the map. |
| 21:19.16 | Mark___ | and how do i tag? |
| 21:19.20 | Cidan | Just talk to them |
| 21:19.32 | Mark___ | kk |
| 21:19.37 | Mark___ | cool |
| 21:19.49 | Cidan | You can even fly-cross zone, clear across the other side of the map. |
| 21:19.51 | Mark___ | was wondering if there was a faster way to travel lol |
| 21:20.08 | Mark___ | ty |
| 21:20.16 | Cidan | Mark___: At level 40 you also get the chance to buy a mount to ride around. You move much quicker over land this way. |
| 21:20.38 | Falcon213 | well for now you can only walk, there only flight point in teldrassil is outside darnassus |
| 21:20.41 | Mark___ | cool only 34 levels to go |
| 21:20.47 | Mark___ | :D |
| 21:21.34 | |pez| | Any Stargate Atlantis fans here? I'm wondering if there's any episodes after s4ep10 that's been released on teh intarweb. |
| 21:21.41 | Cidan | |pez|: yes |
| 21:21.43 | Maldivia | well, seeing you're a rogue, in a few levels you'll get Sprint, which will make you run faster for a few seconds :) |
| 21:21.47 | Cidan | |pez|: Up to ep16 |
| 21:21.57 | Cidan | |pez|: They are out every Saturday |
| 21:22.02 | Maldivia | up to 17 :) |
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| 21:22.40 | Mark___ | sweet ty that'll help |
| 21:22.44 | Cidan | 16 here, it has not aired. |
| 21:22.50 | Cidan | 17 airs tonight |
| 21:22.56 | Cidan | For us. |
| 21:23.00 | |pez| | ah, indeed! thanksthanks! |
| 21:23.12 | Maldivia | Cidan: then 17 must be a preair version :) |
| 21:23.24 | |pez| | I'm a downloadwhore, since none of the channels I have actually air the thing. |
| 21:23.37 | Cidan | Maldivia: negative, EU gets it aired ~5 hours before us. |
| 21:23.47 | Maldivia | Cidan: it was accedentially added to iTunes wednesday, and was capped from there :) |
| 21:23.54 | Cidan | HAH |
| 21:23.56 | Cidan | That's awesome |
| 21:24.19 | Cidan | Stargate.Atlantis.S04E17.PREAiR.XviD-BSGTV |
| 21:24.20 | Cidan | rofl |
| 21:24.21 | Cidan | nice |
| 21:24.38 | nevcairiel | the bsgtv was nuked due to bad audio iirc |
| 21:25.18 | Cidan | downsampled audio |
| 21:25.19 | Cidan | :/ |
| 21:25.23 | Cidan | You're right |
| 21:25.43 | nevcairiel | i had some non-scene release on my tv page this morning |
| 21:25.43 | Cidan | poop, oh well |
| 21:25.46 | nevcairiel | that was good |
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| 21:26.06 | Cidan | nevcairiel: What do you use to track RSS? |
| 21:26.13 | nevcairiel | i dont |
| 21:26.45 | Cidan | Oh, D: |
| 21:28.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Whoo, k, that's new |
| 21:28.21 | ScytheBlade1 | I was sitting here, when I suddenly, *instantly* got a horrific migraine |
| 21:28.37 | cladhaire | so I bike 7.4 miles 4 mornings a week |
| 21:28.38 | cladhaire | fuck |
| 21:28.51 | ScytheBlade1 | If I turn my head to the right, and look left, the entire left side of my vision is green |
| 21:29.01 | ScytheBlade1 | That's kinda funky |
| 21:29.33 | Maldivia | green nose? |
| 21:29.47 | Cidan | cladhaire: So what's the problem? |
| 21:29.51 | ScytheBlade1 | lol, no |
| 21:29.56 | cladhaire | i just realized this |
| 21:29.57 | cladhaire | i knew it was long |
| 21:30.00 | cladhaire | i didn't think it was that long. |
| 21:30.08 | Cidan | cladhaire: I hear that all the time. ;D |
| 21:30.09 | cladhaire | oh, and i do that just so i can row for two hours O.o |
| 21:30.13 | cladhaire | heh |
| 21:30.14 | ScytheBlade1 | cladhaire: one way? |
| 21:30.17 | Obelix | Cidan: Thank you for ya help earlier. Renaming the frame did the trick. |
| 21:30.21 | cladhaire | no, tahats there and back |
| 21:30.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, phew |
| 21:30.26 | Cidan | Obelix: I thought so, no problem. :P |
| 21:30.37 | cladhaire | i thought it was 1-2 miles maybe |
| 21:30.41 | cladhaire | not 3.7 each way :P |
| 21:30.56 | Cidan | This is good though. Means you're in shape. |
| 21:31.06 | cladhaire | not really, no |
| 21:31.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Whoa, wtb T6 gear |
| 21:31.16 | ScytheBlade1 | 11.6k frostbolt crit |
| 21:31.22 | cladhaire | but i'm not in bad shape, for a 28 years old computer nerd |
| 21:31.34 | cladhaire | slash PhD student |
| 21:31.56 | Cidan | Nope, not at all. |
| 21:32.20 | cladhaire | regatta is next week |
| 21:32.21 | cladhaire | O.o |
| 21:32.29 | cladhaire | like wednesday is first race |
| 21:32.31 | cog|work | Highly amusing http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7453317847381528211 (esp ~ 9:30 - 11:00) |
| 21:32.55 | kergoth | cladhaire: your 'not bad' shape probably puts the rest of us geeks to shame |
| 21:33.03 | kergoth | someday i'll find the motivation to start lifting again.. someday |
| 21:33.12 | cladhaire | meh, maybe next term |
| 21:33.19 | cladhaire | this term i've got a lot to work on |
| 21:33.21 | cladhaire | my core stability is shot |
| 21:33.23 | |pez| | I'm in horrible shape. |
| 21:33.32 | cladhaire | so out of season, i'm going to focus there |
| 21:33.35 | |pez| | and I'm a unemployed 21 year old with way too much time on my hands. |
| 21:33.39 | cladhaire | my arms and chest are fine, my legs are great |
| 21:33.45 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 21:33.59 | Lunessa | Hah... look at the blizzcon photo. Clad could do magazine covers. |
| 21:34.02 | cladhaire | it SUCKS rowing with a bunch of freaking 18 year olds tho |
| 21:34.07 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 21:34.14 | Cidan | He does flirt with the camera, yes. |
| 21:34.21 | Lunessa | damned GQ looking freak. :P |
| 21:34.32 | cladhaire | those little bastards with their flat stomachs, and being tall and shit |
| 21:34.32 | kergoth | i'm not in very good shape, but i'm happier with my weight now than i was when i was 20.. i was /too/ damn skinny then... now just need to convert some of this fat to muscle |
| 21:35.09 | cladhaire | kergoth: hehe I weighed 250 just 2.5 years ago |
| 21:35.20 | Cidan | cladhaire: wow. |
| 21:35.23 | cladhaire | I lost 45 pounds over the course of a year, and as a result.. had NO muscle. |
| 21:35.32 | kergoth | damn |
| 21:35.38 | cladhaire | so that's what i've been working on |
| 21:35.42 | kergoth | i'm 5'8" 168lbs atm |
| 21:35.45 | cog|work | cladhaire: i'm 1/3 my way along that path right now... |
| 21:35.48 | cladhaire | while still trying to lose my gut |
| 21:36.01 | cladhaire | since, it gets in the way of the oar |
| 21:36.02 | oreth| | Eblexa, with the right diet and excersize, is garuanteed more effective than diet alone! |
| 21:36.02 | cladhaire | =( |
| 21:36.04 | cladhaire | cog|work: awesome! |
| 21:36.06 | |pez| | lbs = pounds? |
| 21:36.10 | cog|work | yes |
| 21:36.31 | |pez| | I'm 5'2" and I 150lbs + / - a couple pounds. |
| 21:36.37 | nevcairiel | stupid foot and pounds, l2metric imho |
| 21:36.55 | |pez| | 158cm and between 70-75kg ;P |
| 21:36.58 | cladhaire | its better than fucking stone |
| 21:37.00 | ScytheBlade1 | l2 NO HAHA |
| 21:37.12 | ScytheBlade1 | ;) |
| 21:37.13 | Lunessa | http://www.flickr.com/photos/tierrie/1023646461/in/set-72157601245280162/ --- Clad there lower, right side. |
| 21:37.17 | |pez| | I will now show you pictures. |
| 21:37.51 | |pez| | I has this shape still - http://pez.selfip.net:8090/div/bikiniishpez.jpg |
| 21:37.54 | cladhaire | Lunessa: that was me at 6'1" and 210lbs or so |
| 21:38.02 | |pez| | just.. longer hair. |
| 21:38.09 | Cidan | I'm 5'7" and I have no idea how much I weigh |
| 21:38.21 | Lunessa | cladhaire: I'm 5'10.5" and 275 ... so ... yeah /envy |
| 21:38.21 | Cidan | I imagine 160 or so |
| 21:38.55 | Cidan | So. |
| 21:39.06 | Cidan | Who's going to be the first to hit on |pez| now? |
| 21:39.08 | cladhaire | DAMN YOU BHAG'THERA WHY MUST YOU EVADE ME! |
| 21:39.10 | Cidan | Should I go first or....? |
| 21:39.16 | ScytheBlade1 | cladhaire: lol |
| 21:39.16 | Lunessa | Feel free. |
| 21:39.22 | Cidan | Lunessa: Excellent. |
| 21:39.24 | |pez| | a BMI thing once told me I was obese, that made me sad. XD |
| 21:39.35 | Cidan | |pez|: So, tell me more about your self. |
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| 21:39.41 | Cidan | |pez|: I kid, I kid. |
| 21:39.54 | |pez| | I wanna be a fetish model! :D |
| 21:40.04 | |pez| | only not really, cause I'm timid and such horrible things. |
| 21:40.20 | nevcairiel | what kind of fetish, then? |
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| 21:40.47 | |pez| | http://fetishdiva.no |
| 21:41.06 | |pez| | I think diva |
| 21:41.08 | |pez| | or divas |
| 21:41.09 | |pez| | not sure |
| 21:41.41 | |pez| | Pretty much boost my self-esteem by dressing in hawt clothes and getting comments for how awesome I look ;P |
| 21:41.54 | Cidan | Oh |
| 21:41.55 | oreth| | |pez| are you a myspace girl? |
| 21:41.55 | cladhaire | HAHAH FOUND OYU |
| 21:41.58 | Cidan | So like suicidegirls |
| 21:42.08 | |pez| | look at ze pictures! not the text. |
| 21:42.09 | Cidan | Only less punkish |
| 21:42.13 | oreth| | at work |
| 21:42.18 | Obelix | I can't get the OnEvent to work: http://wowi.pastey.net/82318 & http://wowi.pastey.net/82319 |
| 21:42.19 | oreth| | not clicking on "fetishdiva" at work |
| 21:42.20 | oreth| | sorry |
| 21:42.23 | |pez| | Cidan: I also think suicidegirls are generally a few pounds smaller ;P |
| 21:42.32 | |pez| | I'm not a myspace girl no. :P |
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| 21:42.45 | oreth| | "EXTREME MYSPACE ANGLE" |
| 21:43.01 | nevcairiel | that doesnt look too bad actually |
| 21:43.04 | |pez| | heck, the pictures in the directory of http://pez.selfip.net:8090/div/bikiniishpez.jpg is the only online place I have pictures afaik. |
| 21:43.31 | Cidan | I dislike SG; at first I thought it was pretty cool. I loved what I thought was the artistic nature. But then it turned out to be so meh. |
| 21:43.46 | Cidan | FUCK YES |
| 21:43.48 | Cidan | http://pez.selfip.net:8090/div/adresselinje.jpg |
| 21:43.54 | Cidan | God that's hot |pez|. |
| 21:44.00 | |pez| | haha XD |
| 21:44.06 | |pez| | I know! |
| 21:44.12 | nevcairiel | Cidan has his own kind of fetish |
| 21:44.13 | nevcairiel | i get it |
| 21:44.25 | Cidan | damn right I do. |
| 21:44.26 | cladhaire | i have a cidan fetish |
| 21:44.26 | |pez| | ... I had to explain what the hell the damned adressbar was in IE, and how to make it reappear. |
| 21:44.29 | cladhaire | amirite? |
| 21:44.42 | Cidan | cladhaire: You couldn't handle me. |
| 21:44.55 | nevcairiel | dont tempt him :P |
| 21:45.08 | |pez| | I love my friends -___- http://pez.selfip.net:8090/div/pezifryseren.jpg |
| 21:45.29 | Cidan | Ya, that was funny. |
| 21:45.42 | |pez| | I came home from london. |
| 21:45.53 | |pez| | (I lived at school at this point) |
| 21:46.04 | |pez| | and the folks were like "Marianne, we missed you!" and I ended up there. |
| 21:46.16 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 21:46.32 | nevcairiel | they missed you and they put you in a freezer eh? |
| 21:46.40 | |pez| | Yeaaaah... |
| 21:46.49 | Cidan | That's so cool. |
| 21:46.54 | Maldivia | perhaps they though you had become an ice queen ? |
| 21:47.24 | |pez| | In retrospect, most my friends did a lot of stuff to me that I found horribly annoying. |
| 21:47.37 | |pez| | but they had great amusement over it. :P |
| 21:47.37 | Maldivia | payback time? |
| 21:47.53 | |pez| | Maldivia: Oh, I tried, and ended up in the pile of snow outside. |
| 21:47.57 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 21:48.00 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 21:48.04 | Cidan | lol |
| 21:48.05 | Cidan | oh wow |
| 21:48.13 | |pez| | So I stopped picking fights with people that are larger than me. |
| 21:48.17 | |pez| | Which is pretty much everyone. |
| 21:48.18 | nevcairiel | so anyway, who will be at blizzcon EU in june? |
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| 21:48.37 | cladhaire | i will |
| 21:48.37 | Maldivia | considering it |
| 21:48.45 | cladhaire | need to figure out hotel situation, so we can boko |
| 21:48.47 | Cidan | I've been considering it; but I don't know if it's worth it for only like, a day. |
| 21:48.49 | cladhaire | andsplit rooms to cut cost imo |
| 21:49.01 | cladhaire | Cidan: coming to paris can be more than a day, if you'd like |
| 21:49.15 | Cidan | I suppose, hm. |
| 21:49.28 | |pez| | Where is it? :P |
| 21:49.42 | nevcairiel | in paris |
| 21:49.50 | Maldivia | the question is, will any UI representative be present in paris... |
| 21:49.57 | |pez| | I'd love to go there, but I don't think I'd do it for just blizzcon |
| 21:50.10 | cladhaire | i don't think slouken will be there |
| 21:50.56 | nevcairiel | i've always wanted to go to paris, but its in the middle of my semester, and i dont know yet how my courses etc will end up |
| 21:51.29 | cladhaire | nevcairiel: where are you again? |
| 21:51.35 | nevcairiel | northern germany |
| 21:51.50 | cladhaire | what weekend is it again |
| 21:51.54 | cladhaire | i should make sure i'm not in term :P |
| 21:52.07 | nevcairiel | 28th and 29th june |
| 21:52.56 | cladhaire | sweet :P |
| 21:53.38 | |pez| | Go Downloads, go! |
| 21:55.02 | Falcon213 | anyone know of a good example of making frames on the fly? |
| 21:55.22 | Falcon213 | xml frames are ftl |
| 21:55.40 | Cidan | Falcon213: Why yes, yes I do. |
| 21:55.47 | Cidan | Falcon213: www.conspiracy-ui.com/lua |
| 21:56.00 | Falcon213 | thanks! I'll check it out |
| 21:56.14 | Cidan | Falcon213: I wrote that a long time ago, one day I will bother to update it. |
| 21:56.23 | Cidan | Still works though. |
| 21:56.45 | Falcon213 | now where was this when looking for a tut? |
| 21:57.25 | Cidan | No where; for some reason the UI community has an unheard of fervor for XML frames. |
| 21:57.55 | Maldivia | heh |
| 21:58.31 | cladhaire | cause a lot of the community still hasn't learned the "use the right tool for the right job" lesson |
| 21:58.38 | cladhaire | sadly |
| 21:59.04 | Cidan | That's so subjective |
| 21:59.21 | Cidan | For me, Lua frame creation is always the right tool. :D |
| 21:59.34 | Cidan | THOUGH I REALIZE THAT ISN'T THE CASE FOR OTHERS AND MANY DO NOT AGREE. |
| 22:00.34 | Maldivia | I prefer lua frames aswell, unless it's something that I've already made in xml, in which case, I'm very often too lazy to convert, and there's really no point in converting :) |
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| 22:00.41 | Falcon213 | I guess I'm just oldschool... always did winapi programming by hand, not with one of those rc designer pos |
| 22:01.03 | Cidan | Falcon213: Same, :P |
| 22:01.07 | cladhaire | not sure where that fits in Falcon213, we're not talking about using GUI designers |
| 22:01.10 | cladhaire | XML is by hand |
| 22:01.23 | cladhaire | its just structured and validatible |
| 22:01.37 | widger|work | m00 |
| 22:01.37 | Falcon213 | it's the fact that it's seperate from the real code |
| 22:01.46 | Falcon213 | more than anything |
| 22:02.06 | Cidan | Well I think what he was trying to say was that XML is more similar to a UI template designer than say, writing it all out in source. |
| 22:02.17 | Falcon213 | that too |
| 22:02.18 | cladhaire | and i disagree, 100% |
| 22:02.27 | Cidan | Eh, I sort of disagree. |
| 22:02.29 | cladhaire | its code, in every sense of the word |
| 22:02.33 | Cidan | I see where he's coming from, but XML IS code |
| 22:02.48 | Falcon213 | I didn't say it wasn't =/ |
| 22:03.03 | Falcon213 | but you understand what I meant anyway |
| 22:03.17 | Cidan | Either way, I agree with you. Poo on XML. |
| 22:03.23 | Cidan | and Poo on UI designers |
| 22:03.31 | widger|work | I like XML and UI designers =( |
| 22:03.36 | Maldivia | personally, I feel I can control the UI better from lua than XML, eventhough I know I have the same control, I just find lua easier |
| 22:03.38 | widger|work | XML is great even for dynamically created frames |
| 22:03.44 | widger|work | Templates ftw |
| 22:03.47 | Cidan | widger|work: I'd Poo on you, but that "@" scares me. |
| 22:04.21 | widger|work | If there weren't XML templates I'd have to make lots of tiny factories |
| 22:04.26 | widger|work | To get my frames from lua |
| 22:04.36 | Maldivia | Cidan: just read it as widger@work instead, and then it's no longer scary :) |
| 22:04.47 | Cidan | widger|work: I've sort of done that. |
| 22:05.42 | Cidan | Though I've tried to refine the entire thing. Overall, I'm please with mah execution of it. |
| 22:05.51 | Cidan | Much better than RDX/VFL, imo. |
| 22:06.10 | widger|work | 1*6 = (12/2) |
| 22:06.18 | Cidan | ... |
| 22:06.21 | Cidan | woo? |
| 22:06.28 | Cidan | lua> 1*6 |
| 22:06.28 | lua_bot | Cidan: 6 |
| 22:06.31 | widger|work | Six of one is half a dozen of the other =P |
| 22:06.34 | Cidan | lua> 12/2 |
| 22:06.34 | lua_bot | Cidan: 6 |
| 22:06.39 | Cidan | HOLY SHIT GUYS |
| 22:06.54 | widger|work | lua> 1*6 = (12/2) |
| 22:06.55 | lua_bot | widger|work: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '1' |
| 22:06.58 | Cidan | widger|work: r u sum sort of math person or sumting? |
| 22:07.01 | widger|work | epicfail |
| 22:07.03 | Cidan | rofl |
| 22:07.04 | Cidan | Or not. |
| 22:07.09 | Maldivia | lua> 1*6 == (12/2) |
| 22:07.09 | lua_bot | Maldivia: true |
| 22:07.30 | widger|work | Copy paste ftl |
| 22:07.35 | widger|work | Aaanyways |
| 22:07.35 | Mark___ | told ya id be back |
| 22:07.49 | Mark___ | im kinda stuck on a glitch |
| 22:07.50 | Cidan | God damn it, I think I'm getting a cold |
| 22:07.54 | Cidan | Mark___: 'splain |
| 22:08.00 | Cidan | well brb, moving to laptop+bed |
| 22:08.02 | Mark___ | in between sum rocks |
| 22:08.11 | Mark___ | anythin i can do |
| 22:08.14 | Mark___ | ? |
| 22:08.15 | Falcon213 | use your hearthstone |
| 22:08.30 | Maldivia | yeah, if you can't just out, use your hearthstone |
| 22:08.31 | Mark___ | oh right |
| 22:08.32 | Falcon213 | it's an item in your bag.. probably the first one |
| 22:08.35 | Maldivia | jump* |
| 22:08.49 | Mark___ | lol jumped around like a loon for 10 mins |
| 22:08.53 | Mark___ | will look ty |
| 22:08.54 | Maldivia | heh |
| 22:09.13 | Cidan | there, on lappy, *yawn* |
| 22:09.35 | Lunessa | *sigh* How did I end up being the campus Word expert? |
| 22:09.42 | Cidan | nerd, imo |
| 22:10.03 | zenzelezz | Lunessa: you probably did something advanced, like change the font |
| 22:10.21 | Cidan | rofl |
| 22:10.38 | Cidan | I suppose in Word 2007 that would require quite a lot of skill. |
| 22:10.59 | Lunessa | Hah, I understand templates, styles and formatting - as well as mailmerge and tables. Apparently that means I know more than anyone else in the frikking system |
| 22:11.13 | Maldivia | that sounds about right |
| 22:11.41 | Maldivia | but well, understanding templates/styles/formatting in word can be very painful |
| 22:11.56 | Maldivia | they often seem to have a life of their own |
| 22:12.29 | Lunessa | Mostly 2003 - I'm still getting shocked by 2007 |
| 22:13.02 | Lunessa | I'm going to hang a sign on my door that says "The Document Doctor is" and then a little square for IN or OUT |
| 22:13.46 | Maldivia | and if both are checked, you're in, but out cold? |
| 22:14.07 | Cidan | imo, hang this: |
| 22:14.10 | Cidan | http://media.urbandictionary.com/image/large/gtfo-56265.jpg |
| 22:16.26 | Cidan | oh look |
| 22:16.37 | Cidan | Jack Thompson blames the NIU shooting on Counter Strike |
| 22:16.40 | Cidan | what a surprise. |
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| 22:17.15 | Cidan | MySpoons2Big: sigh. |
| 22:17.18 | Lunessa | Yes |
| 22:17.26 | Cidan | Why does someone with the nick |
| 22:17.31 | Cidan | MySpoons2Big |
| 22:17.33 | Cidan | get fios |
| 22:17.37 | Cidan | and I don't. D: |
| 22:18.16 | Falcon213 | My spoon is too big |
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| 22:18.24 | Falcon213 | I am a banana! |
| 22:18.34 | Cidan | Lopeppeppy: :D You were missed |
| 22:18.37 | Lunessa | haha... the entire question was how to avoid having track changes show that someone had made a mistake. HAHAHA |
| 22:18.44 | Lopeppeppy | Thank you, Cidan. *hug* |
| 22:18.50 | cog|work | moo... wtb gain control for google vids |
| 22:19.16 | MySpoons2Big | Cidan: Sorry to hear that :-( |
| 22:19.18 | widger|work | m00 |
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| 22:19.57 | MySpoons2Big | My family has a long history working for Verizon, so when I moved out of my house I made sure I was moving somewhere that was going to get Fios in the near future. ;-) |
| 22:20.35 | Cidan | I have fios all around me |
| 22:20.43 | Cidan | I just live in an MDU |
| 22:20.48 | Cidan | so no fios yet |
| 22:21.39 | Cidan | I guess I can't whine too much, I have 15/2 right now |
| 22:22.00 | Lopeppeppy | I have wireless of crappage. |
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| 22:22.56 | art3mis | eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 22:23.13 | Cidan | wow, their DSL is crap here too. |
| 22:23.23 | Cidan | 768/128? |
| 22:23.25 | Cidan | lulz. |
| 22:24.45 | |pez| | that's what I had on my first DSL connection, a loooong long time ago |
| 22:25.34 | Cidan | my first high speed connection was 1.5/256 |
| 22:25.45 | Cidan | that was ages ago, over ten years now |
| 22:26.42 | Falcon213 | my first was 1.5/768 but it was dsl and I was so far away I was getting closer to 800/400 |
| 22:27.12 | Falcon213 | but was still good up speed =] |
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| 22:32.19 | art3mis | heh my first highspeed was in 96 and cable ;P |
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| 22:32.38 | art3mis | uncapped white motorola cable ;P |
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| 22:39.39 | Xuerian | ~seen akx |
| 22:39.41 | purl | akx <i=akx@dsl-tkubrasgw1-ffb8c100-28.dhcp.inet.fi> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 14d 8h 16m 51s ago, saying: 'petemc, that shouldn't affect anything else, right?'. |
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| 22:44.01 | Crysli | I'm back |
| 22:45.07 | art3mis | nd easy ;) |
| 22:45.36 | Lopeppeppy | art3mis! |
| 22:45.51 | art3mis | hrm? |
| 22:46.02 | art3mis | oh hey that was in this window |
| 22:46.08 | art3mis | and well tiemd it seems |
| 22:47.22 | |pez| | tickle licking makes me giggle >__> |
| 22:47.29 | Lopeppeppy | .... |
| 22:47.49 | art3mis | snuffles do too im guessing |
| 22:47.57 | |pez| | snuffles? |
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| 22:48.00 | |pez| | Lopeppeppy? :P |
| 22:48.25 | art3mis | when you immitate a truffle hunting pig on a persons neck and inhale and exhale rapidly |
| 22:48.35 | Lopeppeppy | NMK! :P |
| 22:48.53 | |pez| | art3mis: oh, that goes beyond giggling |
| 22:49.02 | |pez| | I'm ticklish, and very much so. |
| 22:49.09 | art3mis | heh |
| 22:49.11 | |pez| | boyfriend can just pretend to tickle me, and I'll crack up. |
| 22:49.19 | art3mis | hahahah |
| 22:49.23 | art3mis | pretend tickle? |
| 22:49.39 | |pez| | Or, like "I'm going to tickle you now" moves. |
| 22:49.42 | art3mis | i knew a girl whos breasts were insanely ticklish |
| 22:49.52 | art3mis | that made for odd encounters |
| 22:50.04 | |pez| | I can only imagine. |
| 22:50.10 | Crysli | ...Omg. |
| 22:50.15 | |pez| | it's mostly my side and belly really. |
| 22:50.17 | |pez| | and feet |
| 22:50.17 | art3mis | i did learn how to effectively pin someone from her though ;P |
| 22:50.30 | |pez| | Crysli? |
| 22:50.45 | art3mis | shes having a private moment |
| 22:50.52 | |pez| | Ahaaaa |
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| 22:51.35 | Crysli | Yeah, what's up, pez? |
| 22:52.13 | |pez| | I'm sort of bored. |
| 22:52.20 | Crysli | That's sad. |
| 22:52.24 | |pez| | I know. |
| 22:52.25 | Crysli | Go draw a happy little man. |
| 22:52.38 | art3mis | in a boat? |
| 22:52.40 | |pez| | I'm not good at drawing happy little men. |
| 22:52.52 | art3mis | and is he bald? |
| 22:53.00 | |pez| | I'm good at halfnude girls and women though. |
| 22:53.23 | Syzgyn | that takes precident over happy little men doesn't it? |
| 22:53.36 | art3mis | depends if hes in a boat and bald ;P |
| 22:53.46 | zenzelezz | <|pez|> I'm good at halfnude girls and women though. <--- I am trying so hard to make this sound dirty :-| |
| 22:53.46 | Crysli | Make a halfnude happy woman in a boat. Make her bald. |
| 22:54.05 | |pez| | zenzelezz: are you figuring out how? :P |
| 22:54.29 | art3mis | zenzelezz: replace at with "for" or "with" |
| 22:54.31 | |pez| | Also, I'm not really into women. So I find it weird that I like to draw them. |
| 22:54.33 | art3mis | tada! |
| 22:54.44 | Cidan | Shirik|Ecole: here? |
| 22:54.54 | Shirik|Ecole | kinda |
| 22:54.54 | Shirik|Ecole | sup |
| 22:55.17 | Cidan | Shirik|Ecole: not going to be coding for at least a day or two, 101.2 fever, in bde atm |
| 22:55.31 | Shirik|Ecole | then go back to bed! |
| 22:55.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | poot |
| 22:55.53 | Cidan | Shirik|Ecole: I started work on color selection stuff though, 'tis neat. nini |
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| 22:57.21 | Shirik|Ecole | BED NOW |
| 22:57.45 | Falcon213 | so.. either you can't use Frame:SetBackdropColor without using Frame:SetBackdrop or I just screwed up somewhere |
| 22:58.00 | Crysli | Shirik|Ecole - Do I even need to comment on that+ ^_^ |
| 22:58.05 | Crysli | ? |
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| 23:05.02 | Lunessa | Ok, I'm driving home now. Ciao tutti |
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| 23:15.51 | art3mis | http://www.bbspot.com/News/2008/02/top-11-geek-pickup-lines-5.html |
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| 23:17.06 | Crysli | #2 is aweomse. |
| 23:17.13 | Crysli | I can't spell |
| 23:18.00 | art3mis | If you want to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe. |
| 23:18.01 | art3mis | -Carl Sagan |
| 23:18.10 | art3mis | thats an awesome quote |
| 23:18.19 | alestane | #10 is a little too esoteric even for geeks I think. |
| 23:20.30 | Crysli | HTML isn' too esoteric. |
| 23:20.50 | art3mis | http://www.menshealth.com/20worst/worstfood.html |
| 23:21.04 | Josh_Borke | is too! |
| 23:21.37 | alestane | But how many people will actually read that as "You complete me"? |
| 23:22.16 | Crysli | Idunno, but I'm sure the rest will read it as "You inside me" |
| 23:22.35 | art3mis | http://www.popsci.com/entertainment-gaming/gallery/2007-09/hollywood-physics |
| 23:23.06 | alestane | I'll grant, for anyone who'll actually get it, it's a great line because of the clever quotient, but the conversion rate will be very low. |
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| 23:24.04 | Josh_Borke | hell, i didn't read it as you complete me |
| 23:24.12 | Crysli | And using the non-geek version isn't much better. "Hi, you complete me!" |
| 23:25.12 | alestane | Crysli: The version (assuming that pickup lines are generally a guy thing) would actually be "<you>me</you>". |
| 23:25.34 | art3mis | Because of the first law of thermodynamics, the work done to compress the air will be converted into energy, thus raising the temperature. How much? Under ideal conditions, the –100°C air would be warmed to a scorching 57°C (135°F) by the time it reached the surface. |
| 23:25.58 | Josh_Borke | it goes from 100 to 57? |
| 23:26.06 | Crysli | alestane: True. |
| 23:26.50 | alestane | Josh_Borke: from -100 to 57, a gain of 157%C. |
| 23:27.35 | Josh_Borke | oh, ok |
| 23:27.38 | Josh_Borke | it came out as a ? |
| 23:27.56 | art3mis | i like reading nerd stuff about movies |
| 23:28.26 | oreth| | http://img.thedailywtf.com/images/200802/error'd/killpc.jpg |
| 23:28.29 | oreth| | ^^ do it now! |
| 23:29.39 | Crysli | ok |
| 23:31.12 | oreth| | foxlit followed my orders |
| 23:33.31 | Crysli | I wonder if there's any coffee left. Brb. |
| 23:34.33 | Crysli | There was :D |
| 23:39.43 | Crysli | http://wow.crysli.dk/necro.jpg - my party frames look weird there. Any ideas for positioning? |
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| 23:40.26 | Lopeppeppy | Just bring it all down toward the bottom. |
| 23:40.36 | Crysli | As in all the frames? |
| 23:43.07 | Crysli | That could work. |
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| 23:44.42 | Lopeppeppy | Yup. Just bring it all down, maybe reduce the size a smidge if needed. |
| 23:46.52 | Crysli | Yeah. Does the Vol texture look misplaced? |
| 23:48.48 | Lopeppeppy | It's hard to say, with the unit frames so out there. Get them into place and locked, and then try another screenshot. |
| 23:49.36 | Crysli | They're pretty much where they need to be. I think I'll move them a tad towards the center and a little down, but that's all. |
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