| 00:00.14 | AnduinLothar | you've got to be kidding me... FuBar uses "LibFuBarPlugin-3.0_Addon Preferences_FrameMinimapButton" as the dynamicly generated name for the minimap button |
| 00:00.20 | AnduinLothar | that's the worst name ever |
| 00:00.23 | Syzgyn | lol |
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| 00:00.56 | Syzgyn | you're right, LFBP3APFMB is a much better name |
| 00:01.01 | AnduinLothar | not only is it huge and not generated in xml, but it's got a fucking '.' in it |
| 00:01.21 | Stanzilla | blame ckknight :P |
| 00:01.25 | AnduinLothar | so you can't use the same frame parsing that breaks apart tables with . |
| 00:01.26 | ckknight | ? |
| 00:01.41 | Syzgyn | yeah, its all ckknights fault |
| 00:01.56 | ckknight | why would any sane person generate frames in xml? |
| 00:01.57 | ckknight | :-P |
| 00:02.04 | Lopeppeppy | But... that was my doing! *sniff* |
| 00:02.04 | AnduinLothar | it tries to find _G["LibFuBarPlugin-3"]["0_Addon Preferences_FrameMinimapButton"] ... |
| 00:02.05 | ckknight | also, use _G |
| 00:02.20 | ckknight | _G["LibFuBarPlugin-3.0_Addon Preferences_FrameMinimapButton"] would work fine |
| 00:02.35 | Syzgyn | I never understood what _G does |
| 00:03.23 | Shirik | lua> getfenv(0) == _G |
| 00:03.23 | Shirik | --> getfenv(0) == _G |
| 00:03.23 | Shirik | ... |
| 00:03.23 | ckknight | Syzgyn: it's a reference to the global table |
| 00:03.23 | Syzgyn | ok |
| 00:03.25 | Shirik | any time now guys |
| 00:03.29 | lua_bot | Shirik: true |
| 00:03.29 | batbot | Shirik: > true |
| 00:03.34 | Shirik | ow lag |
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| 00:03.36 | ckknight | hehe |
| 00:03.37 | AnduinLothar | except then i have to rewrite the function that works for every other damn frame under the sun, but you have to be special and use a period in a global string name |
| 00:03.38 | Syzgyn | heh |
| 00:03.46 | MentalPower | its getglobal without the function call |
| 00:03.47 | MentalPower | lua> return getglobal("string"), _G["string"] |
| 00:03.47 | MentalPower | --> return getglobal("string"), _G["string"] |
| 00:03.47 | lua_bot | MentalPower: { ["split"] = function: 0x80702e8, ["match"] = function: 0x806eeb0, ["gmatch"] = function: 0x806edd8, ["upper"] = function: 0x806ef80, ["gsub"] = function: 0x806ee10, ["format"] = function: 0x806ed68, ["lower"] = function: 0x806ee78, ["sub"] = function: 0... (result truncated) |
| 00:03.47 | batbot | MentalPower: @ [string " return getglobal("string"), _G["string"]"]:1: attempt to call global 'getglobal' (a nil value) |
| 00:03.48 | ckknight | AnduinLothar: *thumbs u* |
| 00:03.51 | ckknight | up* |
| 00:04.08 | kergoth | AnduinLothar: periods are perfectly valid in a table key, you should fix your assumptions when you write something that's supposed to be generic. |
| 00:04.27 | ckknight | any character at all is valid |
| 00:05.02 | AnduinLothar | ... you're missing the point |
| 00:05.34 | Shirik | no |
| 00:05.38 | Shirik | you're missing the period |
| 00:05.40 | Shirik | ahahahaha |
| 00:05.44 | ckknight | good one, Shirik |
| 00:05.47 | Syzgyn | rofl |
| 00:05.49 | Cide | whose period? |
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| 00:05.53 | Cide | I thought it lasted for days |
| 00:05.55 | Shirik | not that period -_- |
| 00:06.04 | ckknight | Cide: *shudder* |
| 00:06.05 | AnduinLothar | the whole point is to be able to store 1 string that evaluates to a frame. |
| 00:06.14 | Shirik | I do see AnduinLothar's point though |
| 00:06.20 | Shirik | but I'm not getting involved in this argument |
| 00:06.59 | MentalPower | just use unnamed frames and be done with it :) |
| 00:07.04 | ckknight | I do CreateFrame("Frame", MAJOR_VERSION .. "_Frame") in my libraries quite a bit |
| 00:07.11 | ckknight | MentalPower: yea, but then that provides less debugging info |
| 00:07.18 | ckknight | which is the only reason why I have names |
| 00:07.21 | ckknight | truth be told |
| 00:07.26 | AnduinLothar | and i've never before seen any frame name with a period in it. plus period is already the syntax for indexing a table so it's just downright confusing to use periods or spaces in frame names or tble indexes |
| 00:07.43 | ckknight | AnduinLothar: or dashes? can't use that in normal access |
| 00:08.05 | ckknight | Alpha-Bravo is subtraction, but _G["Alpha-Bravo"] references a frame fine |
| 00:08.10 | AnduinLothar | those are characters that break the syntactic sugar |
| 00:08.21 | AnduinLothar | so why use them? |
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| 00:08.30 | ckknight | because they're already part of MAJOR_VERSION |
| 00:08.33 | cog|work | HAI IM COGWEEL AND I LIEK 2 MAK PPL THIINK |
| 00:08.33 | AnduinLothar | why not jsut use underscore liek everyone else |
| 00:08.38 | batrick | maybe because he doesn't intend to use the syntactic sugar? |
| 00:09.02 | AnduinLothar | he doesn't, but whatabout everyone else that writes addons that may interact with his? |
| 00:09.05 | ckknight | yea, it's not something that needs to mess with syntactic sugar |
| 00:09.16 | MentalPower | function sanitize(str) return str:gsub("[%.%-%s]", "_") end |
| 00:09.19 | ckknight | those people should be properly doing _G[frame:GetName()] or whatever |
| 00:09.35 | ckknight | whatever the name may be |
| 00:09.47 | batrick | this is a pretty silly thing to argue over |
| 00:09.53 | MentalPower | ckknight: that will error if the frame has no name :) |
| 00:10.03 | MentalPower | _G[nil] |
| 00:10.06 | ckknight | true |
| 00:10.17 | AnduinLothar | fine, then tell me how to make a string that can index a non-global frame without using a character that can be used in names |
| 00:10.41 | AnduinLothar | s/names/strings |
| 00:10.42 | MentalPower | huh? |
| 00:10.49 | batrick | ya uh, what? |
| 00:10.51 | ckknight | why are you indexing a non-global frame? |
| 00:11.03 | ckknight | to what end? |
| 00:11.11 | AnduinLothar | there are plenty of frames that do not have global names that you need to be able to access |
| 00:11.32 | ckknight | and you can't do _G["LibFuBarPlugin-3.0_Addon Preferences_FrameMinimapButton"].frame? |
| 00:11.40 | Cide | imo: f = loadstring("return "..str); setfenv(f, { stuff }) |
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| 00:12.05 | ckknight | yea, that'd work fine, Cide |
| 00:12.20 | AnduinLothar | both of those require 2 strings, not 1 |
| 00:12.39 | ckknight | cide's doesn't... |
| 00:12.54 | ckknight | what if you were to store '_G["LibFuBarPlugin-3.0_Addon Preferences_FrameMinimapButton"].frame'? |
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| 00:12.58 | MentalPower | cide's requires a closure |
| 00:13.00 | AnduinLothar | yes it does. i have to be able to get the value of stuff from "stuff" |
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| 00:14.48 | ckknight | I'm filing this under the "not my problem" category. Sorry. |
| 00:15.06 | AnduinLothar | that was my point to begin with. you don't follow conventions |
| 00:15.15 | AnduinLothar | you make up your own |
| 00:15.43 | ckknight | would you rather I have the name be nil? |
| 00:15.45 | kergoth | Imo, If you assume that people are always going to use _ as a seperator, that's your problem for making such an assumption. |
| 00:15.46 | ckknight | I could do that |
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| 00:16.15 | AnduinLothar | fine then, make it nil |
| 00:18.09 | ckknight | but why should I bother? it provides nice debug info for people who want it |
| 00:18.28 | ckknight | and it would just make it so it can't be referenced anywhere |
| 00:18.39 | AnduinLothar | so you're perfectly willing to add extra information for debugging but not interoperability? |
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| 00:21.05 | Shirik | kergoth: I don't think that's a fair statement |
| 00:21.50 | Shirik | Is it unfair for me to make an assumption that ethernet will packets always have the 8 byte preamble? If it's a standard, even an informal one, that doesn't mean it's wrong to assume it will be used |
| 00:21.56 | Shirik | That's also not to say people shouldn't try new things |
| 00:22.59 | Syzgyn | I dont think theres even an informal standard on frame names though |
| 00:23.15 | AnduinLothar | blizzard's standard is _ sepperators |
| 00:23.18 | kergoth | A frame name is a string, to assume anything about the content of that string is just silly. |
| 00:23.31 | oreth| | ThisStringIsNotAFram |
| 00:23.36 | ckknight | there is no real standard for it, and requesting that it doesn't have '.' is kind of arbitrary, especially since you can make frames that have '.' in them |
| 00:24.13 | AnduinLothar | does it work to say local a.b = "c" ? |
| 00:24.28 | AnduinLothar | it doesn't assign it to _G["a.b"] = "c" |
| 00:24.56 | ckknight | syntax error on your first line |
| 00:25.01 | ckknight | no syntax error on the second |
| 00:25.05 | ckknight | the second is _perfectly_ fine |
| 00:25.13 | AnduinLothar | right but the first is more common |
| 00:25.55 | AnduinLothar | and why not pick a variable name that doesn't work for both? |
| 00:25.59 | AnduinLothar | does* |
| 00:26.06 | ckknight | just because something is a common belief or practice doesn't make it penultimately right |
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| 00:27.29 | AnduinLothar | ok, so give me an example of another way to index a non-global variable with only the input of a single string |
| 00:27.59 | AnduinLothar | or even any two strings that satisfies more than 1 level deep |
| 00:28.28 | ckknight | local str = [=[_G["Zomg hai thar"].var]=] |
| 00:28.34 | ckknight | that's a single string |
| 00:28.48 | ckknight | local func = loadstring("return " .. str) |
| 00:28.56 | AnduinLothar | except you're assuming you can hardcode the var name |
| 00:29.04 | ckknight | var name? |
| 00:29.08 | AnduinLothar | .var |
| 00:29.25 | ckknight | okay... |
| 00:29.49 | ckknight | local str = "Zomg hai thar" |
| 00:29.56 | ckknight | local frame = _G[str].var |
| 00:29.57 | ckknight | ? |
| 00:30.07 | AnduinLothar | you're hardcoding .var |
| 00:30.11 | ckknight | or what? |
| 00:30.19 | ckknight | dude, I don't know what you're asking, then |
| 00:30.27 | Shirik | He wants something like |
| 00:30.31 | ckknight | local str = "Zomg hai thar" |
| 00:30.38 | Shirik | local str = "Zomg hai thar.var"; local frame = _G[str] |
| 00:30.39 | ckknight | local var = "mai fraem" |
| 00:30.40 | Shirik | obviously that won't work |
| 00:30.43 | ckknight | local frame = _G[str][var] |
| 00:30.52 | ckknight | Shirik: right |
| 00:31.12 | ckknight | where is he getting "Zomg hai thar.var" from, though? |
| 00:31.15 | dylanm | What do we want here? |
| 00:31.16 | AnduinLothar | _G[str][var] uses 2 strings. but what if it's more than 2 deep? |
| 00:31.18 | ckknight | where is the input string coming from? |
| 00:31.31 | ckknight | AnduinLothar: then you use local func = loadstring("return " .. str) |
| 00:31.34 | ckknight | as I already told you |
| 00:31.49 | ckknight | and use a proper _G reference |
| 00:31.52 | AnduinLothar | not if it has a period in it |
| 00:31.53 | Shirik | btw, I have determined that with the amount of current flowing through this device, assuming 100% power dissipation (not true), and that the device is approximately 1.5g |
| 00:32.04 | ckknight | AnduinLothar: make your input string better, that's what I'm saying |
| 00:32.05 | Shirik | This thing has a specific heat capacity of 5J/gK |
| 00:32.11 | ckknight | instead of relying on dots |
| 00:32.13 | AnduinLothar | you are giving me the input sting |
| 00:32.21 | ckknight | am I? |
| 00:32.21 | Shirik | which either means it's made of helium or something's seriously wrong |
| 00:32.24 | AnduinLothar | by definine it with a period in the name |
| 00:32.43 | AnduinLothar | "LibFuBarPlugin-3.0_Addon Preferences_FrameMinimapButton" is the input string |
| 00:32.44 | ckknight | local x = [=[["Zomg hai thar"]["var"]]=] |
| 00:32.49 | AnduinLothar | how do i get the value of the frame |
| 00:32.49 | ckknight | why is that the input string? |
| 00:32.53 | ckknight | get a better input string |
| 00:32.57 | AnduinLothar | because that's what you named it |
| 00:33.00 | ckknight | take it in better, I mean |
| 00:33.03 | AnduinLothar | how? |
| 00:33.17 | ckknight | fuck this, this is your problem, I've tried to help but you've been of no help and have just been whining |
| 00:33.42 | AnduinLothar | it's not possible. you HAVE to assume 1 character that you can split with |
| 00:33.42 | Shirik | ok guys no need to get hostile :) We're all friends here |
| 00:33.55 | ckknight | AnduinLothar: and I've told you that you don't |
| 00:33.58 | Cide | Shirik: wrong. I hate you. |
| 00:33.59 | dylanm | AnduinLothar: Could you restate the problem |
| 00:34.01 | dylanm | ? |
| 00:34.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: I hate you. |
| 00:34.15 | AnduinLothar | ckk made a frame named "LibFuBarPlugin-3.0_Addon Preferences_FrameMinimapButton" |
| 00:34.16 | Cide | oshi- |
| 00:34.18 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 00:34.33 | AnduinLothar | i need to acess it from 1 reference |
| 00:34.36 | AnduinLothar | a string |
| 00:34.38 | AnduinLothar | "LibFuBarPlugin-3.0_Addon Preferences_FrameMinimapButton" |
| 00:34.49 | ckknight | instead of saving it as "frame1.frame2.frame3", save it as [=[["frame1"]["frame2"]["frame3"]]=] |
| 00:35.13 | ckknight | or more specifically ([=[[%q][%q][%q]]=]):format("frame1", "frame2", "frame3") |
| 00:35.14 | AnduinLothar | that's a string? |
| 00:35.21 | ckknight | yes. |
| 00:35.34 | Cide | >>> [=[abc]=] |
| 00:35.34 | Cide | Cide: "abc" |
| 00:35.37 | Shirik | [=[ is just like [[, but it must be terminated ]=] |
| 00:35.43 | Shirik | you can have an infinite number of = in there |
| 00:35.47 | Shirik | they just have to match |
| 00:35.49 | dylanm | As long as the match. |
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| 00:35.57 | dylanm | Which is kinda cool. |
| 00:36.06 | AnduinLothar | why not just use [[ ? |
| 00:36.08 | Shirik | Cide used to have a bug with that |
| 00:36.10 | Cide | can you really have an *infinite* number? |
| 00:36.14 | Cide | Shirik: I did? |
| 00:36.16 | Shirik | AnduinLothar: You'd terminate prematurely |
| 00:36.23 | Shirik | look at the last element |
| 00:36.25 | Shirik | ["frame"]]] |
| 00:36.39 | Shirik | you would cut off early and then hit a syntax error |
| 00:36.43 | ckknight | AnduinLothar: so glad you've actually read the pil within the past year |
| 00:37.02 | Cide | >>> loadstring(("return [%s[a]%s]"):format(("="):rep(10^6), ("="):rep(10^6)))() |
| 00:37.02 | Cide | Cide: "a" |
| 00:37.05 | Cide | nice |
| 00:37.25 | Shirik | Cide: I seem to remember your file containing a block like that |
| 00:37.27 | Cide | >>> loadstring(("return [%s[a]%s]"):format(("="):rep(10^99), ("="):rep(10^99)))() |
| 00:37.27 | Cide | Cide: "a" |
| 00:37.34 | Cide | Shirik: doesn't make it a bug ;) |
| 00:37.38 | Shirik | and hitting it would break out of your secure environment or something |
| 00:37.52 | Cide | nope, because python replaces it with another string identifier :P |
| 00:37.59 | Cide | but yes, otherwise you're right |
| 00:38.03 | Shirik | I forget what it was, but something broke |
| 00:39.03 | alestane | Obfuscated C is tough but Obfuscated Lua is pretty dang confusing. |
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| 00:40.13 | wereHamster | alestane, how can you obfuscate lua? in C you have at least #defines that make obfuscation somewhat easy |
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| 00:40.31 | Shirik | go look at preformav :) |
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| 00:40.56 | Shirik | not a really good example, but an example nonetheless |
| 00:40.56 | wereHamster | is that an addon? |
| 00:41.21 | dylanm | For Horde only yo. |
| 00:41.26 | Shirik | ~dict forum |
| 00:41.35 | Shirik | ~dict 2 forum |
| 00:41.36 | alestane | wereHamster: Cide's loadstring example above is a good place to start. |
| 00:41.51 | Shirik | ~dict 3 forum |
| 00:42.26 | wereHamster | alestane, that's pretty straight forward for me.. unlike some of the code from the 'obfuscated C contest', and I've been coding C for some years.. |
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| 00:42.44 | Cide | 10^99x "=" is a lot of characters |
| 00:43.00 | Shirik | 10^99 of them to be exact |
| 00:43.09 | Cide | what? :P |
| 00:43.19 | Cide | 10^99 x "=" meaning 10^99 of them |
| 00:44.24 | Shirik | oh... |
| 00:44.29 | Shirik | wait |
| 00:44.35 | Shirik | ok, let's just stop this conversation :) |
| 00:45.01 | Cide | prolly a good idea |
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| 00:47.12 | Cide | good night |
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| 00:49.29 | Lunessa | ~staple |Jelly| |
| 00:49.29 | purl | ACTION attaches a staple gun to a pneumatic nail gun via duct tape, staples |Jelly| quite well, and hands |Jelly| to lunessa |
| 00:49.37 | art3mis | wow |
| 00:49.42 | art3mis | thats a pretty good stapler |
| 00:49.58 | Lopeppeppy | Can I borrow that?!? |
| 00:50.12 | art3mis | its not easy to staple jelly |
| 00:52.11 | Lopeppeppy | I can practice. |
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| 00:55.58 | Lunessa | Damn it Scotty, I need more staples! |
| 00:57.43 | Lopeppeppy | All your staples are belong to me. |
| 00:59.27 | Lunessa | Yes, yes they do. I even offered to buy them back. *cries* |
| 00:59.53 | Lopeppeppy | Needs different currency. |
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| 01:02.36 | Lunessa | ... bow chikka bow-wow! |
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| 01:03.29 | Lopeppeppy | Exchange rates negotiated. |
| 01:05.53 | WobWork | I'm here to clean the pool! |
| 01:06.01 | Valaron|Work | Hmm |
| 01:06.03 | Lopeppeppy | oooh, that's good to. |
| 01:06.05 | Lopeppeppy | *too |
| 01:10.09 | Shirik | !co us drenden kimina us burning legion jelly |
| 01:10.14 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Kimina vs Jelly! Two 70 priests compare their stat differences; 42/19/0 vs 18/43/0; Kimina ++3070 HP; Jelly ++170 +healing; Jelly ++80 +spelldmg; Kimina ++24 arcane resist; Kimina ++511 Armour; Kimina ++213 Mana; Jelly ++19 mana regen; Kimina ++76 resilience; Kimina ++21 spell crit; Jelly ++20 mp5; Kimina has 7% more stats then Jelly. |
| 01:10.30 | Shirik | !vs us drenden kimina us burning legion jelly |
| 01:11.12 | Syzgyn | thats neat |
| 01:11.16 | Shirik | any time now thrae |
| 01:11.20 | Shirik | !vs us drenden kimina us burning legion jelly |
| 01:12.38 | Shirik | !vs us drenden kimina us burning legion jelly |
| 01:12.40 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Kimina vs Jelly! Two 70 priests square off!; 42/19/0 vs 18/43/0; Kimina wins by 58 TBRs! |
| 01:12.43 | Shirik | thank you... |
| 01:13.16 | buu | Wuss. |
| 01:13.49 | Syzgyn | TBRs? |
| 01:15.19 | Shirik | ~tbr |
| 01:15.20 | purl | well, tbr is ThraeBot Ratings -- a ThraeBot innovation. Working on a PvP-oriented weighted algorithm for what stats the Armoury currently has for your character, partially modified by build-type, it can be used to pit two characters in TBR vs TBR combat, and tries try to take into account which classes are fighting. (or "to be released") |
| 01:19.36 | Shirik | Okay my friend here doesn't believe me so I'll ask you guys for confirmation |
| 01:19.48 | Shirik | are human females fat compared to blood elves? |
| 01:19.58 | batrick | yes |
| 01:20.02 | Lopeppeppy | The human body type is more plump than the blood elven, yes. |
| 01:20.02 | kd3 | belves are anorexic |
| 01:20.15 | Lopeppeppy | Need to eat a sammich or twenty. |
| 01:21.12 | Lunessa | All the eleven models are strangely attenuated and thin. |
| 01:21.22 | Lunessa | But the human females don't look fat to me. |
| 01:22.06 | Lopeppeppy | Nor to me. I have bad thoughts about the belves, not the humans. |
| 01:22.48 | Shirik | about the guys or the girls, Lopeppeppy? |
| 01:22.52 | kamdis | except for the outrageously broad shoulders of the human males. The females are alright though. |
| 01:22.56 | Shirik | (sorry, friend wanted to know) |
| 01:24.28 | Lopeppeppy | Both, shirik. I find nothing attractive about either model of belf. |
| 01:24.49 | batrick | i don't think we'd expect you to Lopeppeppy :) |
| 01:24.57 | Shirik | then what were the "bad thoughts" ? |
| 01:25.08 | Shirik | sorry I'll leave you alone :) |
| 01:25.31 | batrick | os.date() should accept a table to fill optionally instead of creating a new one |
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| 01:25.51 | Shirik | you can hook it to do so :) |
| 01:26.01 | batrick | huh? |
| 01:26.04 | Shirik | well, maybe not easily, but it's possible |
| 01:26.54 | batrick | ...? |
| 01:27.00 | batrick | care to elaborate? |
| 01:27.07 | Shirik | well |
| 01:27.13 | Shirik | maybe replace is a better word |
| 01:27.14 | Shirik | not hook :) |
| 01:27.45 | batrick | not without heavy string parsing which is just as bad in the end |
| 01:27.58 | AnduinLothar | JoshBorke: what's LegoBlock come with? |
| 01:28.12 | Shirik | not really |
| 01:28.15 | Shirik | you can just insert a few lines |
| 01:28.31 | batrick | are you talking about modifying the C function or making a Lua function? |
| 01:28.36 | Shirik | I'm not looking at the source right now, but surely os.date() creates a table somewhere |
| 01:28.39 | Shirik | modifying the C function |
| 01:28.49 | batrick | well of course you could dothat :P |
| 01:29.03 | Shirik | then what are you arguing with me for :D |
| 01:29.06 | batrick | i'm saying it should be in the core |
| 01:29.13 | Shirik | make your own Lua |
| 01:29.15 | Shirik | you can call it |
| 01:29.17 | JoshBorke | AnduinLothar: timeblock |
| 01:29.18 | Shirik | Blua |
| 01:29.24 | AnduinLothar | JoshBorke: that it? |
| 01:29.27 | JoshBorke | it's also available on wowi |
| 01:29.38 | JoshBorke | AnduinLothar: um, kergoth wrote one |
| 01:29.39 | Shirik | And we can be sure it's secure because you're the one who finds all the segfaults |
| 01:29.40 | Shirik | lol |
| 01:29.40 | JoshBorke | it's not in heavy use |
| 01:29.44 | AnduinLothar | ahh, you should add the wowi link to wowwiki |
| 01:29.52 | JoshBorke | good idea |
| 01:31.01 | AnduinLothar | do you use it yourself? |
| 01:31.14 | JoshBorke | i used it for TimeBLock |
| 01:31.21 | JoshBorke | but i've been too lazy to do anything else with it |
| 01:31.29 | AnduinLothar | is there an availible OnClick handler? |
| 01:31.31 | JoshBorke | there's talk on the wowace forums about a data broker |
| 01:31.34 | art3mis | whats the /cast to make piggies? |
| 01:31.42 | Shirik | Polymorph (pig) iirc |
| 01:31.46 | art3mis | thanks |
| 01:31.50 | art3mis | data broker? |
| 01:32.03 | JoshBorke | so i'd probably add support for that |
| 01:32.09 | AnduinLothar | is LegoBlock embeddable? |
| 01:32.18 | JoshBorke | AnduinLothar: yes |
| 01:32.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | they changed poly i thought |
| 01:32.25 | Lunessa | Polymorph(Rank 1: Pig) |
| 01:32.34 | art3mis | only inthe BottomOfFeet Lib while it's running InTheDark |
| 01:32.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | to like Polymorphyeahthat |
| 01:32.37 | Shirik | what Lunessa said |
| 01:32.53 | AnduinLothar | cool. I'm thinking of writing a Wardrobe display. just need it to be clickable, that possible? |
| 01:33.17 | JoshBorke | yea, almost positive |
| 01:34.14 | Shirik | ~~~~~~~~~ |
| 01:34.15 | purl | I'm ignoring you now. |
| 01:34.17 | JoshBorke | yea, OnClick is free to be used |
| 01:34.23 | AnduinLothar | why's the folder name so long and not just LegoBlock ? |
| 01:34.28 | Shirik | ~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| 01:34.28 | purl | No, really, STOP! |
| 01:34.32 | Shirik | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| 01:34.36 | Shirik | ~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| 01:34.37 | purl | ~~~~~~~~~~~ are YOU READY?????????? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| 01:34.51 | kergoth | wrt legoblock, there's timeblock, friendsblock, guildblock, shadowed did that weapon speed one, perfblock, some others that i cant remember |
| 01:35.04 | AnduinLothar | perfblock? |
| 01:35.14 | Shirik | blockblock |
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| 01:35.24 | kergoth | perfblock was the little one i did w/ mem/fps/blah |
| 01:35.26 | Lopeppeppy | .... |
| 01:35.46 | JoshBorke | AnduinLothar: it's just how we tag the releases |
| 01:35.47 | Shirik | if there's a friendsblock there should be a blockblock |
| 01:35.47 | kergoth | isn't tek's controlfreak a lego? i cant remember |
| 01:35.51 | Shirik | helps you manage your ignore list |
| 01:36.21 | JoshBorke | used to be kergoth, but isn't anymore |
| 01:36.25 | kergoth | ah |
| 01:36.40 | JoshBorke | AnduinLothar: only the zip file is named that |
| 01:36.59 | AnduinLothar | it unzips to "LegoBlock-Beta1-r144" |
| 01:37.08 | AnduinLothar | and includes the .svn folder |
| 01:37.25 | JoshBorke | from wowi? |
| 01:37.29 | AnduinLothar | google |
| 01:37.42 | JoshBorke | oh |
| 01:37.49 | art3mis | auctioneer stores all its data in the wtf right? |
| 01:37.57 | art3mis | cuz addons cant right to the addon directory? |
| 01:37.59 | JoshBorke | huh, i uploaded one to google? |
| 01:38.01 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 01:38.06 | JoshBorke | man it's been a while since i touched it |
| 01:38.21 | AnduinLothar | google code is the link from wowwiki |
| 01:38.31 | JoshBorke | thanks for this anduion |
| 01:38.39 | JoshBorke | no one has really asked me or talked to me about it ever |
| 01:38.54 | AnduinLothar | i was just looking for a fubar replacement |
| 01:38.58 | AnduinLothar | something simple |
| 01:39.14 | AnduinLothar | is there a way to normalize width or height for blocks that are stuck together? |
| 01:39.19 | art3mis | fubar replacement? |
| 01:39.50 | JoshBorke | once block can't tell another block how to behave, no |
| 01:40.12 | art3mis | but you could build fubar like stand alones in each block? |
| 01:40.16 | AnduinLothar | it'd be a cool feature. normalize to the widest or heighest in a row/collumn |
| 01:41.08 | AnduinLothar | or maybe even some resizablility given a min width/height |
| 01:41.14 | art3mis | heh a "grid" that you can "turn on" blocks, in keeping with the lego theme in 2 4 6 8 10 12 sizes |
| 01:41.50 | AnduinLothar | i'm thinking more like rows or collumns, i'm not a fan of grids on my screen |
| 01:41.57 | AnduinLothar | but the idea is similar |
| 01:42.20 | art3mis | oh tis an invisible grid except in config |
| 01:42.26 | art3mis | the unselected ones go away |
| 01:42.40 | art3mis | so you can build shapes n stuff' |
| 01:42.53 | AnduinLothar | the tricky part is to make it normalize smartly |
| 01:43.15 | art3mis | and by selecting the connected blocks they join |
| 01:43.18 | JoshBorke | i'm thinking about adding a grouping feature |
| 01:43.20 | AnduinLothar | so you could have 2 short and 1 high in the same collumn and normalize |
| 01:43.27 | art3mis | and you can inherit thier settings ie background font etc |
| 01:43.29 | JoshBorke | ie you register your block to be part of some arbitrary group |
| 01:43.38 | JoshBorke | and if the blocks are connected then the height/width are normalized |
| 01:44.09 | AnduinLothar | eh, i think it probably needs to be on the fly so users can just drag groups together and have it just work |
| 01:45.17 | AnduinLothar | think you could wip something like that up Josh? |
| 01:45.30 | AnduinLothar | need more input? |
| 01:46.00 | JoshBorke | would you mind jira'ing it? |
| 01:46.13 | JoshBorke | or google code issue, either way, i put a link to jira on the wowwiki page |
| 01:46.26 | JoshBorke | i need to get myself familiar with the grouping code again and look over it |
| 01:46.58 | AnduinLothar | mk |
| 01:49.42 | AnduinLothar | have to login to post? |
| 01:50.22 | AnduinLothar | looks like my user accoutn was deleted |
| 01:52.04 | JoshBorke | post to gcode then |
| 01:52.05 | JoshBorke | or to wowi and i'll proxy it |
| 01:52.53 | JoshBorke | raiding SSC so i'm not really paying a ton of attention anywhere |
| 01:52.57 | AnduinLothar | eh, i sometimes post on wowace forums, i'll just make a new one |
| 01:53.23 | JoshBorke | just post and say orionshock is dumb any time he posts something |
| 01:54.49 | Shadowed | if you mention orionshock, dumb is implied |
| 01:55.21 | Shirik | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| 01:55.34 | Shirik | my apologies, he is no longer authorized to use the keyboard |
| 01:55.37 | Shirik | have a good day :) |
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| 02:03.28 | Lunessa | Got another meeting, Tom; maybe we could wrap it up? |
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| 02:09.00 | Shirik|Ecole | anyone who knows C |
| 02:09.07 | Shirik|Ecole | what's wrong with this line? void (*fn)() = (void (*fn)())s; |
| 02:09.13 | Shirik|Ecole | (s is a char*, please don't ask) |
| 02:09.58 | Shirik|Ecole | nm figured it out |
| 02:10.02 | Shirik|Ecole | the second fn shouldn't be there >.> |
| 02:10.32 | Lunessa | That's what I love about Shirik|Ecole - he asks a question and then answers it before I look at the question. |
| 02:10.40 | Shirik|Ecole | :( |
| 02:13.07 | Lunessa | ~comfort Shirik|Ecole |
| 02:13.08 | purl | There, there, Shirik|Ecole. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 02:14.31 | Shirik|Ecole | I just killed my server too |
| 02:14.57 | Shirik|Ecole | time for lish to save me again, ScytheBlade1! |
| 02:15.59 | batrick | Recently while going through an airport, President Bush saw a man with long gray hair, wearing a white robe and sandals, holding a staff. |
| 02:16.03 | batrick | President Bush went up to the man and said, 'Has anyone told you that you look like Moses?' The man never answered. He just kept staring straight ahead. |
| 02:16.09 | batrick | Bush pulled a Secret Service agent aside and, pointing to the robed man, asked, 'Am I crazy, or does that man not look like Moses to you?' The Secret Service agent looked at the man and agreed. |
| 02:16.25 | batrick | 'Well,' said the President, 'every time I say his name he ignores me and stares straight ahead, refusing to speak. Watch! ' Again he yelled, 'Moses!' and again the man ignored him. |
| 02:16.29 | batrick | The Secret Service agent went up to the man and whispered, 'You look just like Moses. Are you Moses?' The man leaned over and whispered ... 'Yes, I am Moses. But the last time I talked to a bush I spent 40 years wandering in the desert and ended up leading my people to the only spot in the entire Middle East where there is no oil.' |
| 02:17.23 | Shirik|Ecole | rofl |
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| 02:18.42 | Guillotine | heh |
| 02:23.24 | Kaso | Is it possible to rebind the screenshot key in windows |
| 02:23.35 | AnduinLothar | is in mac |
| 02:23.37 | Corrodias | these teleporting Guardians on the Lurker can be maddening |
| 02:23.42 | Corrodias | SO distruptive |
| 02:24.02 | Kaso | Mac is my issue, ive got a mac keyboard on windows and i have no screenshot key :< |
| 02:24.10 | Kaso | wanna bind f13 to screenshot in windows |
| 02:24.52 | Shirik|Ecole | I know it's possible |
| 02:24.56 | Shirik|Ecole | because they do it at my school |
| 02:24.59 | Shirik|Ecole | exactly how it works, I'm not sure |
| 02:25.08 | Corrodias | MOTHER shitter |
| 02:25.16 | Corrodias | teleporting guardians totally ruined our attempt here |
| 02:25.17 | Kaso | i assume theres something in registrary i can fiddle with somewhere |
| 02:25.34 | AnduinLothar | in wow you mean or in windows? |
| 02:25.42 | Kaso | in windows |
| 02:25.47 | AnduinLothar | oh i dunno then |
| 02:25.49 | AnduinLothar | google it |
| 02:26.06 | Kaso | i have been, its not being much helpful otehr than a couple third party programs |
| 02:26.13 | Kaso | perhaps its impossible be default |
| 02:26.26 | Lunessa | Are you bootcamp-ing to Windows? |
| 02:26.45 | Lunessa | Or just using the keyboard on another machine? |
| 02:26.51 | Kaso | Nope, just using mac keyboard |
| 02:26.55 | Kaso | i like the feel of them |
| 02:27.14 | Lunessa | Yeah, don't know what to tell you then. I'd look around for a utility. |
| 02:27.32 | AnduinLothar | doesn't it map to another key? |
| 02:28.04 | Kaso | nope, it just vanishes |
| 02:28.07 | AnduinLothar | latest keyboard or the previous one? |
| 02:28.38 | Kaso | umm i think it might be the previous one, its wired, do they still sell those? |
| 02:29.02 | AnduinLothar | current ones are ultrathin allum white wite keys |
| 02:29.13 | AnduinLothar | prev is deep white keys clear case |
| 02:29.18 | Kaso | that one |
| 02:29.21 | Kaso | previous |
| 02:29.34 | AnduinLothar | i have 2 or 3 of those |
| 02:29.45 | AnduinLothar | try the help button |
| 02:31.06 | AnduinLothar | i believe it maps to prnt scrn |
| 02:31.28 | Kaso | Nope |
| 02:31.36 | Kaso | nore f13-16 |
| 02:31.39 | Kaso | nor |
| 02:32.09 | AnduinLothar | http://www.no-nonsense-software.com/freeware/ |
| 02:32.34 | Kaso | <3 |
| 02:33.57 | Kaso | Well this works, though crappy programming makes it not accept my f13 but ill cope |
| 02:34.34 | AnduinLothar | can you set it to the help button? |
| 02:36.14 | Kaso | It'll only accept modifier + help |
| 02:36.24 | Kaso | cos its already bound to Insert apparently |
| 02:36.37 | AnduinLothar | ah, right |
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| 02:49.52 | Lopeppeppy | I do love some red text filling my screen. |
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| 02:51.22 | Shirik|Ecole | grey, dark blue, and black |
| 02:51.26 | Shirik|Ecole | but more importantly, all on one line |
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| 02:58.02 | batrick | batbot is gone :( |
| 02:58.35 | Lopeppeppy | Again? Murdered? |
| 02:58.49 | batrick | nah netsplit |
| 02:58.51 | batrick | i think |
| 03:00.44 | batrick | is it possible to put a youtube video on loop |
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| 03:12.01 | Shirik|Ecole | This is going to sound like a stupid question |
| 03:12.17 | Shirik|Ecole | Referenced from ground of a serial pin |
| 03:12.32 | Shirik|Ecole | is a logic high 5V or 0V? (Thus is the logic low 0V or -5V?) |
| 03:13.32 | Nechckn | it depends if it's a pnp or npn transistor if memory serves... |
| 03:14.29 | Shirik|Ecole | there has to be a standard |
| 03:14.36 | Shirik|Ecole | two devices can't "guess" what the other device is going to be |
| 03:15.22 | batrick | high is 5v, low would be -5v |
| 03:15.29 | Nechckn | oh indeed... it's just that one operates the "correct" way and the next opposite. I believe it's +5 and -5 for the two states |
| 03:15.57 | Shirik|Ecole | according to my scope, the states are either 5V and 0V or 0V and -5V |
| 03:16.00 | Shirik|Ecole | not 5V and -5V |
| 03:16.16 | Shirik|Ecole | just the two devices are disagreeing on what exactly they should be, and I'm thinking somehow I don't have them grounded properly |
| 03:17.15 | batrick | the idea is transistor switching is done when voltage is lowest to reduce current spikes |
| 03:18.35 | Shirik|Ecole | I see the problem |
| 03:18.38 | Shirik|Ecole | they disagree on the standard :) |
| 03:18.48 | Shirik|Ecole | RS-232 specifies -5V like you guys said |
| 03:18.53 | Shirik|Ecole | (and 5V) |
| 03:19.06 | Shirik|Ecole | Logic level serial (which is what my other devices are using) specifies 0V and 5V |
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| 03:31.01 | batrick | long fuckin netsplit |
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| 03:34.36 | Lunessa | Hey there, cookie? |
| 03:45.18 | batrick | zzz |
| 03:45.21 | batrick | night |
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| 03:51.23 | Antiarc | getglobal("foo") is the same as _G["foo"] |
| 03:51.28 | Antiarc | wtf |
| 03:51.32 | Antiarc | That conversation was yesterday |
| 03:51.34 | Sixen | KD3, what PTR did you copy to? |
| 03:51.35 | Antiarc | Massive scrollbar fail |
| 03:51.40 | kd3 | PvE |
| 03:51.45 | Sixen | Mmm, alright. |
| 03:51.57 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_021308_202013.jpg \o/ |
| 03:52.40 | Sixen | Damn... |
| 03:52.42 | Sixen | Queue is still full. |
| 03:53.02 | kd3 | they're only copying chars 12 hours a day |
| 03:53.27 | Sixen | I see. |
| 03:54.06 | Sixen | KayDeThree, right? |
| 03:54.31 | kd3 | nah, got my full name this time. Kaydeethree |
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| 03:54.45 | Sixen | Ah, kay. |
| 03:55.39 | Guillotine | Antiarc: o.O |
| 03:55.44 | Guillotine | what mod is that? |
| 03:55.50 | Antiarc | Guillotine: Mod I wrote today |
| 03:55.51 | Antiarc | :P |
| 03:55.59 | Guillotine | me likeyu |
| 03:56.01 | Guillotine | likey* |
| 03:56.06 | Antiarc | I put it on wowace if you want to see the source |
| 03:56.09 | Antiarc | Name's MobSpells |
| 03:56.19 | Guillotine | k |
| 03:56.38 | Guillotine | theres no way to get the UID of a target, is there? |
| 03:57.21 | Antiarc | Sorta |
| 03:57.28 | Antiarc | Look at LibGUIDRegistry in wowace branches |
| 03:57.38 | Antiarc | It does caching to provide those sorts of things |
| 03:57.58 | Guillotine | ah |
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| 03:58.05 | Guillotine | yah, thats what I figured I might have to do :( |
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| 03:58.55 | Antiarc | There is a flag set if the generator of a combat event is your target or focus |
| 03:59.01 | Antiarc | So you just have to cache that and clear when you swap target/focus |
| 03:59.22 | Shirik|Ecole | batrick, did you take EE 2? (Op amps, etc?) |
| 03:59.41 | Guillotine | Antiarc: yah, but we can't get it out of combat or for quest givers, ect. :/ |
| 03:59.47 | Antiarc | Right :( |
| 04:03.18 | Guillotine | hmmm... someone has to try going into MC and playing with the core hounds or SSC and play with the bog lords |
| 04:03.27 | Guillotine | and see if we can figure out what abilities they have from the UID |
| 04:03.42 | Guillotine | I'm wondering if theres some sort of suffix that means something rather than just random |
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| 04:12.51 | WobWork | ... |
| 04:12.52 | WobWork | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7240939.stm |
| 04:12.57 | WobWork | You wacky americans =P |
| 04:13.50 | WobWork | "Howell dubs his technique "fierce data cloud." His prize for winning was a $50 gift certificate for dinner at a local Italian restaurant." |
| 04:15.49 | Gngsk | that's a neat article |
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| 04:17.08 | Lunessa | hey - free food. |
| 04:17.26 | Cairenn | weird that a small group of us got netsplit from here and lasted for over an hour, I only got back on by reconnecting entirely |
| 04:22.02 | WobWork | It's a plot |
| 04:22.15 | Antiarc | Guillotine: Idea! If you buff a quest giver, you can get their NPC ID |
| 04:22.22 | Iriel | Maybe it wasn't a netsplit? Maybe your connections were abducted by aliens |
| 04:22.35 | Guillotine | Antiarc: thats actually a really good idea |
| 04:22.55 | Guillotine | Antiarc: wouldn't work for everyone, but for any spell caster |
| 04:22.56 | Lunessa | Aliens 'probed' Cairenn's connection? oooo! |
| 04:23.17 | Keias | connection is what you're calling it these days? |
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| 04:24.16 | NightHawkTheSane | well, more likely, aliens probed her ports... >.> |
| 04:24.37 | Nechckn | Nope... Cairenn and the rest of us were targets of the same underwater super sub used by the Greys to cut the other fibers... for seriously! |
| 04:24.55 | Cairenn | srsly! |
| 04:25.09 | Guillotine | speaking of which |
| 04:25.17 | Guillotine | someone came into the Conspiracy addon IRC channel |
| 04:25.22 | Guillotine | and thought it was about conspiracies |
| 04:25.30 | Cairenn | lol, of course they did |
| 04:25.33 | Guillotine | and started talking about how the government was trying to poison us with flouride |
| 04:25.57 | Guillotine | (6:42:50 PM) AntiLiberal: Fluoride is poison! |
| 04:25.57 | Guillotine | (6:43:05 PM) AntiLiberal: Those in power have conspired to poison us all |
| 04:25.57 | Guillotine | (6:43:10 PM) AntiLiberal: dumb us down |
| 04:25.57 | Guillotine | (6:43:32 PM) AntiLiberal: make us passive, non-territorial and easy to bend to the will of others. |
| 04:25.58 | Guillotine | (6:43:54 PM) AntiLiberal: Ruin our bones and teeth |
| 04:26.04 | Guillotine | o.O |
| 04:26.14 | Guillotine | his views intrigue me |
| 04:26.29 | Lunessa | I wish to subscribe to his newsletter. |
| 04:26.32 | Nechckn | So they thought it was a place for the "others" to talk about ways to addon more cover stories? perhaps.. eesh. |
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| 04:27.25 | Nechckn | AboveTopSecret actually is a sort of "middle ground" site, with some interesting/intriguing stuff- with only a small bit of crazies |
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| 04:29.39 | Iriel | Xinhuan: I fear you may be drinkin' the crazy-juice |
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| 04:31.19 | Cidan | Guillotine: It happens all the time, :/ |
| 04:31.34 | Cidan | It sucks hard core. |
| 04:31.40 | Guillotine | hmm, first time I've seen it in about 2 weeks |
| 04:31.50 | Guillotine | but this guy was really funny :P |
| 04:32.28 | Lunessa | I am not a number; I'm a free man! |
| 04:32.42 | Lunessa | Work day is over. |
| 04:32.49 | Lunessa | Ciao tutti. |
| 04:32.58 | Iriel | Anyone counted how many args (max) an event has in 2.4? |
| 04:33.24 | Syzgyn | what event? |
| 04:33.29 | Syzgyn | the combat log one? |
| 04:33.36 | Iriel | Whichever has most args 8-) |
| 04:33.40 | Iriel | arg11 is the highest I can see |
| 04:33.55 | Syzgyn | COMBAT_LOG_EVENT pushes more than that depending on the event |
| 04:34.04 | Iriel | More than 11? |
| 04:34.11 | Syzgyn | yes |
| 04:34.35 | Syzgyn | up to 19 |
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| 04:34.55 | Syzgyn | http://www.wowwiki.com/COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_Details |
| 04:35.36 | JoshBorke | so that's 8 + 3 + 8? |
| 04:35.47 | Syzgyn | correct |
| 04:36.02 | Syzgyn | Irel: whats that? |
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| 04:36.20 | Syzgyn | Iriel* |
| 04:36.41 | Iriel | Well, I try not to do memory allocation on every event, so I pre-allocate places to hold data |
| 04:36.48 | Iriel | the existing code holds up to arg9 |
| 04:36.55 | Iriel | since no event ever went past that before |
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| 04:37.01 | Iriel | this makes it trickier |
| 04:37.11 | Syzgyn | ah |
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| 04:43.06 | Syzgyn | I love running through Kara with a decked out group |
| 04:43.28 | ScytheBlade1 | I don't. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
| 04:43.41 | Syzgyn | nono, see |
| 04:43.53 | Syzgyn | we just did a full clear in 1:50 |
| 04:44.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Animal boss |
| 04:44.13 | ScytheBlade1 | *boss? |
| 04:44.22 | Syzgyn | no |
| 04:44.25 | Syzgyn | everything else |
| 04:44.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Not a full clear! kekekeke |
| 04:44.30 | Syzgyn | longest fight was nightbane at 6min |
| 04:44.32 | Syzgyn | lol |
| 04:44.47 | Syzgyn | prince was 3:15, everything else was 1-2 min |
| 04:44.58 | ScytheBlade1 | What gear level are you at? |
| 04:45.17 | Syzgyn | everything in T5 dead except kael |
| 04:46.05 | ScytheBlade1 | That's somewhat impressive, all things considered |
| 04:46.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Nicely done |
| 04:46.12 | Syzgyn | thanks :) |
| 04:46.31 | Syzgyn | I managed to get the 2nd blue beam on netherspite, 12k execute crits |
| 04:48.07 | ScytheBlade1 | haha nice |
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| 04:58.23 | Cairenn | ckknight: ping? |
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| 05:00.55 | Guillotine | code monkey get up get coffee. Code monkey go to job. Code monkey have boring meeting, with boring manager rob. Rob say code monkey very diligent, but his output stink. His code not functional or elegant, what do Code monkey think? |
| 05:01.12 | Antiarc | Code monkey think maybe manager want to write goddam login page himself. |
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| 05:01.26 | Antiarc | <3 Coulton |
| 05:01.28 | Guillotine | code monkey not say it out loud. Code monkey not crazy just proud |
| 05:01.44 | Guillotine | indeed <3 |
| 05:02.10 | Guillotine | him and Munroe are my heroes |
| 05:05.01 | art3mis | boobies! |
| 05:05.05 | art3mis | yay \o/ |
| 05:05.07 | Sixen | Are fun. |
| 05:06.01 | Antiarc | Boobies are pretty awesome |
| 05:07.24 | Syzgyn | agreed |
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| 05:08.32 | art3mis | hrm |
| 05:08.41 | art3mis | ff3b3 is pissing me off |
| 05:08.58 | art3mis | somehwere it started filling in bookmarks from typing words |
| 05:09.02 | art3mis | in the url bar |
| 05:09.11 | art3mis | and the setting thats supposed to turn it off doesnt |
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| 05:59.35 | art3mis | pssssst |
| 05:59.41 | art3mis | regex question |
| 06:00.02 | Iriel | hm? |
| 06:00.03 | art3mis | what would the regex be to change >WoodenMallet< to >Wooden Mallet< ? |
| 06:00.22 | art3mis | basically insert a space before the capital in the middle of a string |
| 06:00.31 | Iriel | s/([a-z])([A-Z])/%1 %2/ |
| 06:00.34 | Iriel | or something like that |
| 06:00.40 | Iriel | depends on your language, etc |
| 06:01.22 | art3mis | well lets see if that works ;P |
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| 06:01.36 | Cairenn | hey Kaelten :) |
| 06:01.56 | art3mis | hrm nope |
| 06:02.07 | art3mis | the search works fine but the inserting doesnt |
| 06:02.41 | Kaelten | heya |
| 06:02.43 | Kaelten | hows it goin? |
| 06:03.34 | Cairenn | good, you? |
| 06:03.34 | Guillotine | Anybody here understand Russian? We got a report for an AddOn, but the report is in Russian :( |
| 06:03.49 | Antiarc | Rotate the glyphs 90 degrees and view it in a mirror |
| 06:03.53 | Antiarc | Voila, english |
| 06:04.07 | art3mis | anyone else got an idea for the regex s&r ? |
| 06:05.01 | Tierrie_ | I know regexps |
| 06:05.04 | Tierrie_ | Whats your question |
| 06:05.08 | Tierrie_ | oh |
| 06:05.13 | Tierrie_ | I see |
| 06:05.52 | Iriel | art3mis: What language are you doing that in? |
| 06:05.54 | art3mis | the a-z A-Z works to find them, but %1 %2 doesnt break the string into two |
| 06:06.03 | kd3 | antiarc; you need high-level testers for threat still? |
| 06:06.16 | Tierrie_ | ([a-z])([A-Z])/$1 $2 |
| 06:06.26 | Antiarc | kd3: I mostly just need high-level characters so I can test certain stuff |
| 06:06.35 | Antiarc | Righteous Defense, Vampiric Embrace, Vamp Touch, FD |
| 06:06.38 | art3mis | </Ites/([a-z])([A-Z])/%1 %2/D> was the test |
| 06:06.49 | kd3 | bah, can't help with any of those. all I've got is my mage on the PTR |
| 06:06.52 | art3mis | doing it with perl |
| 06:07.06 | Antiarc | Ah well. Thanks for the offer anyhow :) |
| 06:07.07 | Tierrie_ | then what I just said should work art3mis |
| 06:07.22 | art3mis | Tierrie_: thats also what iriel said |
| 06:07.27 | Tierrie_ | oh right |
| 06:07.28 | art3mis | and whats displayed there |
| 06:07.32 | art3mis | and it doesnt ;P |
| 06:08.04 | Iriel | perl -e '$x = 'offColor' ; $x =~ s/([a-z])([A-Z])/$1 $2/g; print $x; ' |
| 06:08.09 | Iriel | Works perfectly |
| 06:08.32 | Iriel | I'll note you didn't specify a language at first so expecting what I said to work without adaptation was silly 8-) |
| 06:09.26 | Antiarc | Oh, hot |
| 06:09.34 | Antiarc | A guildmate got his priest/paladin transferred |
| 06:09.36 | art3mis | heh |
| 06:09.38 | Antiarc | So he's letting me use the account |
| 06:09.40 | Antiarc | Rock. |
| 06:10.01 | Guillotine | no, Ace |
| 06:10.19 | kd3 | lol |
| 06:10.38 | Antiarc | :V |
| 06:10.52 | kd3 | any other combat log mods we know work on the PTR yet? |
| 06:11.00 | Antiarc | Like what? |
| 06:11.11 | Antiarc | I wrote MobSpells which is pretty hot and uses the combat log data :D |
| 06:11.12 | kd3 | I dunno. anything. guess getting Parser to work would be first |
| 06:11.18 | Shirik\Ecole | !google db9 pinout |
| 06:11.19 | batbot | Shirik\Ecole: RS232 serial cable pinout information <http://www.lammertbies.nl/comm/cable/RS-232.html> |
| 06:11.40 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.3.x ToC: 20300 | WoW programming book http://tinyurl.com/2gdel9 | Happy Valentine's Day! |
| 06:11.55 | Antiarc | s/Valentine's/Singles Awareness/ |
| 06:12.01 | kd3 | ^ |
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| 06:13.18 | Tierrie_ | i r teh msg u cairen |
| 06:14.13 | Cairenn | Tierrie_: huh? |
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| 06:16.33 | Guillotine | So theres a new function SummonFriend. Anybody played with it to see exactly what it does? And maybe exploit it to summon on a non-warlock? >.> |
| 06:16.49 | Guillotine | assuming its something like the /console port from last PTR |
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| 06:21.29 | Cairenn | Tierrie_: if you mean you're trying to send me a PM, you aren't identified or something, I'm not seeing anything from you |
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| 06:25.21 | Xinhuan | Iriel, around? |
| 06:25.37 | Guillotine | >>> return true |
| 06:25.44 | Guillotine | lua> return true |
| 06:25.44 | lua_bot | Guillotine: true |
| 06:25.55 | Guillotine | yup, Iriel (Lua incarnate) is here |
| 06:26.06 | Iriel | Xinhuan: I am |
| 06:26.19 | Xinhuan | remember my post about ##loadwith and ##optdeps? |
| 06:26.26 | Xinhuan | i have a small test case i think |
| 06:26.29 | Xinhuan | that i just made |
| 06:26.45 | Xinhuan | the issue only seems to arise if i also have ## LoadManagers: something |
| 06:26.47 | Xinhuan | in D |
| 06:26.57 | Iriel | You didn't mention that, at all, in your bug report |
| 06:27.05 | Xinhuan | yah, i didn't test throughly enough |
| 06:27.06 | Xinhuan | at that time |
| 06:27.15 | Iriel | I suggest you build a test case that works with no other addons installed, then post it all zipped up? |
| 06:27.24 | Xinhuan | yes, that's the plan |
| 06:28.20 | Iriel | Cool, I can re-test then |
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| 06:33.06 | Xinhuan | zipping up the test now |
| 06:35.26 | Xinhuan | http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/AddOns.zip |
| 06:35.43 | Xinhuan | it appears that ## LoadWith and ## LoadManagers doesn't like each other |
| 06:35.57 | Xinhuan | because on logging in, D doesn't load. On reloadui, D loads |
| 06:36.04 | Iriel | I would imagine LoadManagers pre-empts LoadWith |
| 06:36.31 | Iriel | though why the orders are inconsistent I dont know |
| 06:36.43 | Xinhuan | but that still doesn't explain why the behavior on fresh login, and non-freshlogin/reloadui is different |
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| 06:37.00 | Xinhuan | in the first case, D doesn't load, in the second case, D loads (and errors) |
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| 06:42.06 | Iriel | Yuck, your test isn't self-contained |
| 06:42.22 | Xinhuan | i suppose i could make an addon E |
| 06:42.23 | Iriel | ## LoadWith: Blizzard_BattlefieldMinimap |
| 06:42.31 | Xinhuan | yes, i loaded that one in A |
| 06:42.46 | Xinhuan | would replacing Blizzard_BattlefieldMinimap make any difference? |
| 06:42.49 | Xinhuan | with E |
| 06:42.53 | Iriel | It'd make the test cleaner |
| 06:43.13 | Xinhuan | i suppose so, but it doesn't change the base issue i think |
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| 06:44.16 | Xinhuan | the idea is to have several loading conditions, which the loadmanager manages, but also another condition to load with the BlizzardBattlefield map |
| 06:49.10 | Iriel | I'll have to investigate more tomorrow. |
| 06:50.08 | Xinhuan | alright, thanks for looking into it |
| 06:50.18 | Xinhuan | if you don't catch me here, i'll be reading the forum thread |
| 06:50.38 | wilson | hi there |
| 06:50.43 | Cairenn | hi |
| 06:51.17 | wilson | i'm told there might be someone here who can explain the mechanism by which the wowhead and thottbot clients extract in-game information |
| 06:51.28 | ScytheBlade1 | There might be, yes |
| 06:51.59 | wilson | it doesn't involve watching values in the client's memory does it? |
| 06:52.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Not in the way that you're thinking, no |
| 06:52.13 | Xinhuan | it doesn't |
| 06:52.20 | Xinhuan | most of them have 2 methods of obtaining data |
| 06:52.23 | wilson | are lua tables saved to disk? |
| 06:52.30 | ScytheBlade1 | On UI reload/logout. |
| 06:52.44 | Xinhuan | 1. in game addon that collects useful data, stored to a lua file on logout 2. reverse engineering the WDB cache folder (in your wow folder) |
| 06:53.05 | Cairenn | he's looking for the saved data from gatherer for his character |
| 06:53.19 | wilson | nah, i was looking at that for an example |
| 06:53.28 | Xinhuan | well he asked how they "extract in-game information" |
| 06:53.30 | Cairenn | ah, okay, my apologies |
| 06:53.35 | Xinhuan | and that's the 2 main ways |
| 06:53.37 | wilson | np thanks for being perceptive =) |
| 06:53.42 | Cairenn | was just going from what you'd said in norgs :) |
| 06:54.02 | Xinhuan | aha |
| 06:54.36 | Antiarc | So apparently |
| 06:54.46 | Antiarc | Vampiric Embrace heals have a school mask of "32" |
| 06:54.59 | Antiarc | Frost + Shadow + Holy? wtf? |
| 06:55.06 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl |
| 06:55.19 | ScytheBlade1 | I can understand the shadow + holy |
| 06:55.22 | ScytheBlade1 | But the frost? |
| 06:55.23 | Antiarc | Yeah |
| 06:55.25 | Antiarc | I don't get the frost |
| 06:55.29 | wilson | (thats wtf) |
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| 06:55.57 | wilson | to be specific, for a second (third?) adventure into wow modding, i want to keep track of rested xp for each character under 70 with a web front end |
| 06:55.59 | Antiarc | Oh, wait |
| 06:56.01 | Antiarc | Doh |
| 06:56.05 | Antiarc | It's in decimal |
| 06:56.10 | Antiarc | Which is 0x20 |
| 06:56.14 | Antiarc | Which is shadow. |
| 06:56.15 | Antiarc | :V |
| 06:56.42 | ScytheBlade1 | wilson: tracking the rested XP isn't hard. The web front end will require you either uploading data or creating a program to upload data for you. |
| 06:56.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: you sir, win |
| 06:56.50 | wilson | all its base weren't belong to you. its base were 10 |
| 06:57.41 | Cairenn | wilson: take a look at: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4903-FuBar-RestFu.html to get an idea of the code necessary to get the rested exp |
| 06:57.53 | wilson | ive got ahold of the rest xp |
| 06:58.04 | wilson | and i can swing the app to post it to the db |
| 06:58.17 | wilson | im looking into the two methods described |
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| 06:58.26 | ScytheBlade1 | The latter method won't apply |
| 06:58.30 | ScytheBlade1 | The former (an addon) will |
| 06:58.42 | wilson | ah |
| 06:59.01 | ScytheBlade1 | http://wowwiki.com/API_GetXPExhaustion |
| 06:59.12 | wilson | so the wdb cache you were talking about doesn't hold stuff saved from addons |
| 06:59.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Take that value, store it in a variable, marked the variable as a saved variable, tada |
| 06:59.25 | wilson | its for quest text, data, and whatnot |
| 06:59.31 | ScytheBlade1 | No. It stores game cache data. Quests, icons, items, etc |
| 06:59.43 | wilson | i guess it makes sense that all that wouldnt come over the wire |
| 06:59.56 | wilson | does that mean i can convert quest text to l33t speak, or will the warden come get me? |
| 07:00.02 | ScytheBlade1 | It does at one point. But it's cached client side |
| 07:00.09 | wilson | (ah) |
| 07:00.18 | ScytheBlade1 | You probably could via an addon, but I'm not sure about how protected that frame is |
| 07:00.23 | wilson | heh |
| 07:00.27 | ScytheBlade1 | You probably could with zero effort though |
| 07:00.27 | Syzgyn | It's definitely possible |
| 07:00.34 | ScytheBlade1 | And warden would not hate you for doing so |
| 07:00.38 | Syzgyn | correct |
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| 07:00.42 | ScytheBlade1 | I might hate you, but alas, that's not your problem :) |
| 07:00.47 | wilson | lulz |
| 07:01.00 | wilson | d0nt h8 teh l33t 5p34k |
| 07:01.13 | Syzgyn | sorta like whoever made that 'pirate speek' mod |
| 07:01.19 | Syzgyn | may he burn in 1000 suns |
| 07:01.20 | ScytheBlade1 | lol yes |
| 07:01.24 | Corrodias | one of my characters finally got the valentine's day pet, so now i have to decide which character should get it... |
| 07:01.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Except that I used it |
| 07:01.26 | Cairenn | should be able to just write it to a saved variable file in the wtf folder and upload that, shouldn't you? |
| 07:01.28 | ScytheBlade1 | In MC, many times |
| 07:01.28 | Syzgyn | -_- |
| 07:01.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: exactly |
| 07:01.45 | Cairenn | from your wtf folder |
| 07:01.53 | wilson | oh there it is! |
| 07:01.55 | Cairenn | err, said that |
| 07:01.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Storing a single variable would be.. trivial. |
| 07:01.57 | Cairenn | duh, nm |
| 07:01.58 | wilson | thanks, i didn't check in there |
| 07:03.07 | Guillotine | hmm. I just realized, its possible to make a variable that isn't defaultly accessible o.O _G[1]=25 |
| 07:03.10 | Guillotine | would that even work? |
| 07:03.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: you cannot lie to us! Mastermind! |
| 07:04.02 | Xinhuan | Guillotine, yes it will work |
| 07:04.22 | Corrodias | Guillotine is scary |
| 07:05.29 | wilson | this WTF folder is the answer to my prayers |
| 07:05.43 | Xinhuan | lua> _G[1] = 10 print(_G[1]) print(getglobal(1)) print(getglobal("1")) |
| 07:05.43 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 10, 10, nil |
| 07:06.13 | Cairenn | lol wilson, sorry, we thought you already knew about that |
| 07:06.26 | wilson | no, no apologies |
| 07:06.58 | Syzgyn | http://tinyurl.com/yvwr8o |
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| 07:07.28 | Guillotine | Xinhuan: this is interesting. getglobal(1) doesn't work in WoW |
| 07:07.40 | Corrodias | oh? |
| 07:07.45 | Corrodias | does _G[1]? |
| 07:07.48 | Xinhuan | getglobal is actually part of the debug library |
| 07:07.50 | Guillotine | apparently getglobal isn't just a call of _G[1] |
| 07:07.54 | Guillotine | _G[1] does |
| 07:07.56 | Xinhuan | lua> debug.getglobal |
| 07:07.56 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: [string "return debug.getglobal"]:1: attempt to index global 'debug' (a nil value) |
| 07:07.58 | Guillotine | getglobal(1) doesn't |
| 07:07.59 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 07:08.04 | Corrodias | cool |
| 07:08.04 | art3mis | that only furthers the stereeotype that george lopez is funny |
| 07:08.10 | Xinhuan | maybe its not spelt that |
| 07:08.15 | ScytheBlade1 | wilson: http://wowi.pastey.net/82156 - not tested. Kinda weird how I did it. But, it also works. |
| 07:08.22 | Xinhuan | or lua_bot killed debug access |
| 07:08.26 | Cairenn | ckknight: ping? |
| 07:08.29 | Corrodias | lua> debug.gtglbl |
| 07:08.30 | lua_bot | Corrodias: [string "return debug.gtglbl"]:1: attempt to index global 'debug' (a nil value) |
| 07:08.34 | Corrodias | *shrug* |
| 07:08.44 | Guillotine | lua> return debug |
| 07:08.45 | lua_bot | Guillotine: nil |
| 07:08.58 | Nechckn | wilson See, told ya they were good =) |
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| 07:09.43 | ScytheBlade1 | wilson: actually, refresh that pastey... that should work better |
| 07:09.49 | Guillotine | now the question is, what DOES getglobal(a) do if it doesn't just return _G[a]? |
| 07:10.14 | Xinhuan | it has something to do with the tainted status of variables |
| 07:10.29 | Xinhuan | if you created 200 strings in wow, and they are all the same value, say "Test" |
| 07:10.35 | Xinhuan | those are 200 different strings |
| 07:10.41 | Xinhuan | each with its own tainted status |
| 07:10.44 | wilson | ah |
| 07:11.01 | Xinhuan | this obviously isn't standard behavior in standard lua |
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| 07:11.08 | Xinhuan | where they all point to the same string |
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| 07:11.38 | art3mis | Cairenn: just ban him |
| 07:11.47 | art3mis | he'll definitely message ya ;P |
| 07:11.56 | ckknight_ | teh pongongong |
| 07:12.03 | art3mis | ckk |
| 07:12.13 | art3mis | someone wanted to give yuo a screened irssi |
| 07:12.17 | ckknight_ | yea |
| 07:12.18 | ckknight_ | batrick |
| 07:12.21 | ckknight_ | I got that |
| 07:12.21 | art3mis | take it |
| 07:12.24 | art3mis | use it ;P |
| 07:12.27 | ckknight_ | but can't log into ssh long enough |
| 07:12.37 | art3mis | thats why it's screened ;) |
| 07:13.25 | art3mis | what happens if you ping -t www.google.com ? |
| 07:13.39 | Guillotine | the connection is just horrible at that hotel |
| 07:13.44 | Cairenn | *nod* |
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| 07:13.48 | art3mis | what happens if you ping -t www.google.com ? |
| 07:13.56 | art3mis | do you actually get packet drops? |
| 07:13.57 | Guillotine | and his room isn't close enough to leach off of the neighbors like we did when I was there :P |
| 07:14.26 | ckknight | yea, I do, art3mis |
| 07:14.28 | ckknight | Guillotine: dude, I'm in Antiarc's room now |
| 07:14.30 | ckknight | the Apple connection went down |
| 07:14.32 | ckknight | no DNS from it |
| 07:14.34 | ckknight | totally sucks |
| 07:14.35 | Guillotine | aww :( |
| 07:14.38 | Guillotine | wtf |
| 07:14.48 | art3mis | why are you in a hotel with crap inet? |
| 07:14.51 | Syzgyn | what're you at a hotel for? |
| 07:15.01 | ckknight | art3mis: where else am I gonna stay? |
| 07:15.06 | Guillotine | the street |
| 07:15.08 | art3mis | at a hotel with good inet? |
| 07:15.18 | Guillotine | haven't you seen the south park? "San fransisco. its nice to the homeless" |
| 07:15.22 | art3mis | i was more questioning the connection than the hotel ;P |
| 07:15.30 | wilson | thanks all. sellin these hos will be easy as hellllllll |
| 07:15.40 | Guillotine | o.O |
| 07:15.46 | wilson | ... so to speak |
| 07:15.47 | Guillotine | maybe I just read that out of context, but... |
| 07:15.53 | art3mis | WILSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 07:15.54 | Syzgyn | ahahah |
| 07:16.04 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 07:16.05 | art3mis | *boot to the head* |
| 07:16.14 | wilson | =) |
| 07:16.32 | Syzgyn | ckk: why're you at a hotel to begin with? |
| 07:16.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | hooker |
| 07:16.40 | ckknight | Syzgyn: cause I ran away from home |
| 07:16.42 | Guillotine | hmm. It would probably taint a LOT of stuff if you were to turn _G into a metatable, wouldn't it? |
| 07:16.47 | Syzgyn | seriously? |
| 07:17.06 | art3mis | Syzgyn: he ran away to jion the parade ;P |
| 07:17.09 | art3mis | join |
| 07:17.11 | Guillotine | circus |
| 07:17.12 | Guillotine | imo |
| 07:17.15 | art3mis | no parade |
| 07:17.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | zoo |
| 07:17.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | imo |
| 07:17.20 | art3mis | he IS in san fran ;P |
| 07:17.25 | Syzgyn | circus gives you a place to sleep at least :P |
| 07:17.50 | art3mis | he's been rainbow tie-dying all his clothes for the last week |
| 07:18.01 | Guillotine | hah |
| 07:18.15 | Syzgyn | I know alot of hippies |
| 07:18.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | dammit |
| 07:18.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | out of stuff with no caffeine |
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| 07:18.34 | Syzgyn | caffeine gooood |
| 07:18.38 | wilson | wilson is already registered with nickserv |
| 07:18.44 | art3mis | Caffiend |
| 07:18.45 | Guillotine | then get another nick |
| 07:18.52 | art3mis | Sucrosia |
| 07:19.00 | art3mis | Nicotinus |
| 07:19.06 | art3mis | the 3 great gods |
| 07:19.11 | Guillotine | that is a bad nick. |
| 07:19.11 | Syzgyn | nickserve? (<--IRC noob) |
| 07:19.23 | Guillotine | use something like GuillRules imho |
| 07:19.28 | Guillotine | much better name |
| 07:19.33 | art3mis | JenniTeals ;P |
| 07:19.38 | Guillotine | rofl |
| 07:19.46 | ScytheBlade1 | biglulz: lulz |
| 07:19.57 | Syzgyn | did it for the lulz! |
| 07:20.08 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter: have another version: http://wowi.pastey.net/82158 - that should actually work better all things considered (I changed the event) |
| 07:20.36 | biglulz | heh |
| 07:20.54 | biglulz | epiclulz was taken too |
| 07:20.55 | biglulz | of course |
| 07:21.09 | biglulz | if i could find one server (US) with it free, i'd probably switch |
| 07:21.46 | biglulz | and yes. wilson tarbuckles _always_ does it for teh lulz |
| 07:23.16 | biglulz | ty all again. if this thing is share worthy ill post it |
| 07:24.14 | ScytheBlade1 | That code may not even work, I didn't test it |
| 07:24.23 | ScytheBlade1 | But have at it |
| 07:25.03 | biglulz | yeah, it put nil in the WTF folder when it should have been some value |
| 07:25.04 | art3mis | Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis |
| 07:25.09 | biglulz | but that's all i need =) |
| 07:25.54 | biglulz | first thing im going to do is sort out the ui addon loading lists for all my chars - they're screwed and they seem to be stored here |
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| 07:43.22 | Guillotine | *yawn* night all |
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| 07:47.23 | Shirik | I never want to see an op amp, or a transistor, or an IC, or an osilloscope, or anything else again |
| 07:47.28 | Shirik | in fact, I'm going to go into something easier |
| 07:47.31 | Shirik | like philosophy |
| 07:47.38 | Shirik | You can never be wrong at philosophy |
| 07:47.44 | widgertick | You're already wrong. |
| 07:47.59 | widgertick | Unless you intend to suck at philosophy, it won't be easier. |
| 07:48.07 | Shirik | But you only think I'm wrong. From my frame of reference, I'm right. And mine is better anyway |
| 07:48.14 | widgertick | I majored in political theory, trust me =P |
| 07:49.06 | Shirik | But still, I never thought serial interface could be so complicated =( But apparently computers use -12V to 12V, while microcontrollers use 0V to 5V, and they don't like to talk to each other |
| 07:49.20 | Shirik | 3 ICs and 2 transistors later and a ton of debugging, I got it though! |
| 07:49.37 | widgertick | Nice job =) |
| 07:49.58 | Shirik | I'm now going to fall over and go to sleep. I had hoped to get the pvp daily done before 3AM but looks like that's not happening. |
| 07:49.59 | Shirik | Night :) |
| 07:50.06 | Shirik | Oh sure now the BG pops |
| 07:50.13 | widgertick | LOL |
| 07:50.17 | Cairenn | night Shirik |
| 07:50.29 | Shirik | think I can win a WSG in 10 minutes? |
| 07:50.39 | Cairenn | I think you can go sleep |
| 07:50.46 | Shirik | but it's 11g... |
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| 07:51.01 | art3mis | just go have some energy drinks |
| 07:51.18 | art3mis | you're fooling yourself if you believe rest will make you a better coder/tech ;P |
| 07:52.02 | Cairenn | but it'll help keep you out of the ER |
| 07:52.10 | art3mis | bah |
| 07:52.28 | art3mis | lack of sleep just makes you fear the amps less and this you can work faster and better |
| 07:52.38 | art3mis | you can sleep during the periods of your heart stopping ;) |
| 07:55.03 | Shirik | yey I capped the flag :D |
| 07:55.04 | biglulz | some philosophy programs are cake |
| 07:55.06 | Shirik | as a priest |
| 07:57.08 | Shirik | omg, 2-0 |
| 07:57.11 | Shirik | I could do it |
| 07:57.12 | Shirik | 4 minutes! |
| 07:58.17 | biglulz | unless you are in the 97th percentile or something you won't make it to grad school, though |
| 07:58.33 | biglulz | and a B.A. in philosophy is as good as toilet paper |
| 07:58.39 | art3mis | if you cant cap a flag as a priest you shouldnt be in the BG's ;P |
| 07:58.54 | art3mis | yay i got my picnic basket1 |
| 07:59.07 | Shirik | YES! |
| 07:59.08 | Shirik | won |
| 07:59.13 | art3mis | now for the pet |
| 07:59.13 | Shirik | with 2 minutes to spare |
| 07:59.38 | Shirik | now the question is do I maike Cairenn happy and go to sleep |
| 07:59.44 | Shirik | or do another game in 2m inutes |
| 07:59.46 | Cairenn | heh |
| 08:00.04 | biglulz | sleep, and dream of the tractatus logico philosophicus |
| 08:00.17 | Shirik | can I just dream of really big words? |
| 08:00.33 | Shirik | oh btw! I just found out one of my professors is going to be on jeopardy |
| 08:00.35 | Shirik | that's so aweosme |
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| 08:00.45 | biglulz | nah dude, has to be wittgenstein |
| 08:01.28 | biglulz | he solved all the problems of philosophy with his theory of language |
| 08:01.33 | biglulz | why dream of anything else? |
| 08:01.58 | Shirik | because I don't intend to solve philosophy :P |
| 08:02.03 | Shirik | solving circuitry and software is more fun |
| 08:02.10 | biglulz | that's the spirit! keep it up EE/CE man |
| 08:02.33 | Shirik | CE :) |
| 08:03.11 | Shirik | but I'm considering getting a minor in EE |
| 08:03.15 | Shirik | it won't be many more classes |
| 08:03.33 | biglulz | ah |
| 08:03.38 | biglulz | i'm CS+phil o_O |
| 08:04.06 | Shirik | I'm "computer engineering in avionics applications" officially |
| 08:04.27 | biglulz | do you get to make bombs too? |
| 08:05.00 | Shirik | no no bombs |
| 08:05.00 | Shirik | in fact, the stuff I'm making is pretty much not supposed to explode ever |
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| 08:05.01 | biglulz | haha |
| 08:05.02 | art3mis | he just makes timers and detonator relays ;P |
| 08:05.36 | biglulz | i knew a dude that did weapons systems in missiles |
| 08:05.43 | biglulz | epic lulz |
| 08:06.14 | art3mis | he is a talkiung lion (an alagory for jesus) |
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| 08:07.03 | biglulz | you're the man now dog crashed opera >_< |
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| 08:19.55 | Shirik | hmmm |
| 08:19.57 | Shirik | drenden just died |
| 08:20.00 | Shirik | oh well, maybe I should go to bed |
| 08:20.50 | Shirik | purl, ping |
| 08:20.50 | purl | pong |
| 08:21.42 | Shirik | ok, night all |
| 08:21.45 | Shirik | night Cairenn |
| 08:21.48 | Shirik | even though you refuse to go to sleep |
| 08:21.51 | Shirik | even though you should |
| 08:21.51 | ecstasia | anyone elses realm go down? |
| 08:21.56 | Cairenn | night Shirik ;) |
| 08:22.00 | Shirik | ecstasia: Read up like.... 5 lines :) |
| 08:22.20 | ecstasia | didn't know drenden was a realm |
| 08:22.27 | Shirik | :< |
| 08:22.36 | ecstasia | okay it's letting me on |
| 08:23.22 | Shirik | rofl |
| 08:23.24 | Shirik | back in AV |
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| 08:23.31 | Shirik | 20 times over |
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| 08:32.53 | Cairenn|afk | night guys |
| 08:38.05 | ckknight_ | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=11384.0 |
| 08:40.31 | Shirik|AFK | (03:39:40) (Shirik) I just lost AV |
| 08:40.31 | Shirik|AFK | (03:39:42) (Shirik) 11-0 |
| 08:40.31 | Shirik|AFK | (03:39:45) (Shirik) you have got to be kidding me |
| 08:40.31 | Shirik|AFK | (03:39:50) (Shirik) night, definitely time to sleep |
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| 08:52.07 | art3mis | ckknight: got a screenie or something of what it does? |
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| 08:57.48 | art3mis | ckknight_: got a screenie or something of what it does? |
| 08:57.54 | ckknight_ | I'm gonna make one |
| 08:59.20 | art3mis | is it basically like a rico minimap? |
| 08:59.33 | art3mis | different shapes scalable ydda yadda? |
| 09:00.02 | art3mis | cuz if you could actually make it larger and extend the viewable distance that would actually be kind of rad |
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| 09:00.15 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 09:00.20 | Wobin_ | seen the valentine Wowhead logo? |
| 09:00.30 | nevcairiel | you cant increase the viewable distance in the minimap |
| 09:00.35 | nevcairiel | thats controlled by wow |
| 09:01.36 | art3mis | nevcairiel: but you can stweal the map pics and piece em together to build a full moving map and just "replace" the minimap with that |
| 09:01.41 | art3mis | steal |
| 09:02.10 | nevcairiel | have fun with that |
| 09:02.16 | art3mis | heh thanks! |
| 09:02.25 | art3mis | actually didnt someone already make an addon like that ? |
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| 09:22.00 | Roath | anyone else who cant load wdn.wowinterface.com ? i get the message that the connection has timed out |
| 09:22.12 | nevcairiel | try http://wdnaddons.com/ |
| 09:22.25 | Roath | ah, thanks :) |
| 09:22.27 | Roath | it works :) |
| 09:22.39 | kd3 | ok... wtf. it was nice and warm today. I'm still wearing shorts |
| 09:22.46 | kd3 | my computer says it's freezing right now |
| 09:22.46 | Roath | but i get the connection timeout if i use www.wdnaddons.com... |
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| 09:22.58 | Roath | :) |
| 09:22.58 | kd3 | s/freezing/0c/ |
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| 09:38.59 | kd3 | 0c outside. it'd be rather nice if my case got that cool. ambient temp inside the case is upper 20s, coretemp's in the mid-30s |
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| 12:00.00 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge is Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.3.x ToC: 20300 | WoW programming book http://tinyurl.com/2gdel9 | Happy Valentine's Day! |
| 12:02.53 | |pez| | it's kinda sad when I can't figure out any webdevcompany names that aren't either lame, or horribly easily misinterpereted... |
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| 12:09.11 | Kalroth | |pez|: Or already taken. :) |
| 12:10.11 | |pez| | Kalroth: point there too. |
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| 12:16.56 | Crysli | Worst week ever. In just this week the left half of my headset stopped working, middle button on my mouse detached itself from the mouse somehoe and my DS is gone. |
| 12:17.26 | Crysli | And it makes me look like I'm pretty irresponsible. :P |
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| 12:50.15 | batrick | morning |
| 12:50.55 | JoshBorke | guten morgen |
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| 13:27.32 | zenzelezz | anyone know what Blizzard thinks about fighting Archimonde with most of the raid standing on the mountains where the Doomfire can't chase? Sounds highly icky to me, but since my guildies suck at staying alive they seem to consider doing it :-/ |
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| 14:38.05 | clad|office | my new bot lies :P |
| 14:38.10 | clad|office | lua> print("out of memory") |
| 14:38.10 | lua_bot | clad|office: out of memory |
| 14:38.14 | [dRaCo] | ^^" |
| 14:38.20 | clad|office | lua> print("not enough memory") |
| 14:38.21 | lua_bot | clad|office: Your code exceeded set memory limits |
| 14:38.25 | clad|office | it cheats |
| 14:38.43 | clad|office | print("not " .. "enough " .. "memory") |
| 14:38.48 | clad|office | lulz |
| 14:38.48 | clad|office | lua> print("not " .. "enough " .. "memory") |
| 14:38.48 | lua_bot | clad|office: Your code exceeded set memory limits |
| 14:38.55 | clad|office | whoa |
| 14:38.58 | clad|office | lua_bot is opped |
| 14:41.34 | MoonWolf | expliotable |
| 14:41.37 | MoonWolf | somehow |
| 14:41.39 | clad|office | orly? |
| 14:41.42 | MoonWolf | i will think on this |
| 14:41.46 | clad|office | i disagree |
| 14:41.59 | batrick | it's kinda silly but ya it's not exploitable :P |
| 14:41.59 | clad|office | its simple, if the lua script outputs the string "not enough memory", its replaced by my prettier message |
| 14:42.13 | MoonWolf | if i can trick him into printing a newline and then an op command... |
| 14:42.14 | clad|office | batrick: its a sad side effect of the way its working now |
| 14:42.17 | batrick | you should probably use flags clad |
| 14:42.24 | |pez| | Oh, damnit, I can't remember the processname of the damn "you've updated, please reboot your computer!" nagger |
| 14:42.25 | clad|office | batrick: huh? |
| 14:42.27 | ralfWORK | SPLOITZ |
| 14:42.33 | clad|office | MoonWolf: you can't, full stop |
| 14:43.05 | batrick | e.g. 1 "lkajsdlkfj" -> script returned "lkjasdkfj" and 2 "laskjdlkf" -> script printed "lksdjlfj" |
| 14:43.15 | batrick | and negative flags for errors :) |
| 14:43.18 | clad|office | the bot won't send any newline characters to the irc server |
| 14:43.24 | MoonWolf | grr |
| 14:43.30 | clad|office | batrick: Can you say that again, slowly? I'm not sure I understand |
| 14:43.52 | batrick | uh |
| 14:43.59 | clad|office | that was very confusing |
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| 14:44.06 | batrick | basically your sandbox will return to your bot a number and a string |
| 14:44.13 | batrick | the number determines what th estring is |
| 14:44.28 | clad|office | i can't do that using this method, or I would gladly |
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| 14:44.42 | clad|office | well, thats not entirely true |
| 14:44.53 | clad|office | i can prefix every legitimate output with some special string |
| 14:44.59 | clad|office | and if that's not there, then i can fix the error message |
| 14:45.10 | batrick | :) |
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| 14:46.17 | clad|office | Good idea |
| 14:46.32 | clad|office | lua> print(1) |
| 14:46.32 | lua_bot | clad|office: 1 |
| 14:47.10 | krka | lua> print"not enough memory, mmkay?" |
| 14:47.10 | lua_bot | krka: Your code exceeded set memory limits |
| 14:47.21 | clad|office | i anchored it properly! |
| 14:47.23 | clad|office | i swear |
| 14:47.28 | MoonWolf | lies |
| 14:47.31 | MoonWolf | lies is say! |
| 14:47.35 | MoonWolf | i* |
| 14:47.36 | krka | i don't get it |
| 14:47.42 | krka | what is this for? |
| 14:47.43 | MoonWolf | lua> print " lies!" |
| 14:47.43 | lua_bot | MoonWolf: lies! |
| 14:48.35 | batrick | it's currently how my bot differentiates between return values, errors, and stuff to print |
| 14:55.10 | ralfWORK | yay! moar failblog! |
| 14:57.43 | clad|office | batrick: i don't have return values using the pipe method, the sandbox has to handle "printing" them |
| 14:57.54 | clad|office | btu the sandbox is so ridiculously simple, its fun :P |
| 14:58.13 | clad|office | lua> print(4) |
| 14:58.14 | lua_bot | clad|office: OUT:4 |
| 14:58.17 | clad|office | now to strip em |
| 14:59.25 | batrick | i'm saying you can generate a string that represents the return values, prepend a numeric identifier and send that pack to your main bot |
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| 15:06.30 | clad|office | batrick: well all i differentiate bwtween output and errors, and i'm coding that right noe. |
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| 15:08.49 | batrick | clad you're going to the lua workshop? |
| 15:09.08 | clad|office | i'll be in DC that weekend, so I plan to, yes |
| 15:09.12 | clad|office | have to work out hotel, etc. |
| 15:09.15 | batrick | cool |
| 15:09.24 | batrick | ya I wish I could go but it's a little far from albuquerque :) |
| 15:15.34 | [Liquidor] | ~seen cncfanatics |
| 15:15.37 | purl | cncfanatics <n=evolve@53.81-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 19h 35m 41s ago, saying: 'I wanted the bible revelation tbh (a)'. |
| 15:24.23 | foxlit | grr, bitlib :( |
| 15:24.56 | foxlit | -22 would not implement bnot validly; -25 inverts the sign bit :( |
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| 15:45.31 | Atriace | Is there a way to test for the presence of a function? |
| 15:45.59 | Atriace | Some sort of boolean, I hope |
| 15:50.01 | dylanm | You check whether a value is nil or not. I guess you could check its type as well. |
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| 15:52.13 | foxlit | type(functionname) == "function"; |
| 15:52.16 | Atriace | so..... if function (someFunction ~= nil) then? |
| 15:52.31 | |pez| | waha, the livingroom looks halfway livable now. |
| 15:52.56 | |pez| | just need to hang out this blanket, and vacum the sofa, carpet, and wash the table. and it's good :D |
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| 15:59.25 | [Liquidor] | Hahaha checkout the new fireball sound by mages in 2.4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFhHj9l9EaU ... schorch and pyro is also changed among others. |
| 16:02.49 | |pez| | clue is, backup your old magesound, and replace it with the new one! |
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| 16:06.16 | [Liquidor] | hehe nice drop eh? :P http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v304/Iamaocfan/Hawkmountnais.jpg |
| 16:07.06 | |pez| | swift *white* hawkstrider? :o |
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| 16:08.02 | |pez| | ooh, that's quite pretty |
| 16:08.40 | |pez| | I want the ivory raptors back really. |
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| 16:13.54 | malreth | why i love leopard server: remote install -- this is awesome |
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| 16:21.14 | ralfWORK | so there's a rumor |
| 16:21.36 | ralfWORK | that there is a set of resto druid gear that drops in ZA |
| 16:21.43 | ralfWORK | that was available for a short time through badges |
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| 16:23.50 | foxlit | "set" is an overstatement |
| 16:24.01 | ralfWORK | oh sorry |
| 16:24.06 | ralfWORK | I don't know why the hell I said set |
| 16:24.09 | ralfWORK | I meant "piece" |
| 16:24.24 | foxlit | yes :) |
| 16:24.42 | foxlit | moonkin pants were moved in a similar fashion as well |
| 16:25.20 | foxlit | http://www.wowdb.com/item.aspx?id=33971 |
| 16:25.22 | ralfWORK | so now they are just available in ZA eh? |
| 16:26.02 | foxlit | or maybe not; but yes, now in ZA |
| 16:26.37 | MoonWolf | wowdb... damn |
| 16:26.45 | MoonWolf | could it look any more like wowhead ? |
| 16:26.47 | MoonWolf | seriously. |
| 16:26.57 | ralfWORK | I like wowhead's new ajax search thing |
| 16:27.00 | ralfWORK | it's pretty uber |
| 16:27.06 | zenzelezz | does it matter if they look alike? |
| 16:28.30 | ralfWORK | omg yes yes yes 11!1111!11!1!!!!!1 |
| 16:28.50 | MoonWolf | i do think identity is important. |
| 16:29.25 | ralfWORK | wowhead identity, i haz it |
| 16:29.59 | ralfWORK | i made u a idenity but then i ated it :( |
| 16:30.36 | MoonWolf | wowhead was "better" because it was more up to date, accurate and had more features then thotbott and alakazam and whatnot |
| 16:31.00 | Lopeppeppy | I made a new tissue and I called it Kleenox! |
| 16:31.06 | MoonWolf | this has the same features looks and what seems to be the same data. |
| 16:32.23 | foxlit | mainly because wowhead isn't as slacking at replicating those features :) |
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| 16:39.35 | Atriace | It's impossible to hook a local function from another mod, correct? |
| 16:40.00 | malreth | from another file, yes |
| 16:40.17 | malreth | if there is no other global variable that references that function |
| 16:40.30 | malreth | s/global/global-accessible/ |
| 16:41.20 | foxlit | malreth: even so |
| 16:41.21 | malreth | what are you trying to do? |
| 16:41.38 | foxlit | local function foo() ...; end GFOO = foo; |
| 16:41.41 | Atriace | CT_Mod is "unfixing" my positioning of Blizzard elements. |
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| 16:41.51 | foxlit | If I'm calling foo, GFOO hook is ignored |
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| 16:42.50 | Cide | Atriace: enjoy! |
| 16:43.02 | Atriace | hehe, thanks Cide. ;) |
| 16:43.09 | malreth | cide takes pleasure in causing other authors pain |
| 16:43.16 | Atriace | lol |
| 16:43.22 | foxlit | kill CTMod's triggers first, np |
| 16:43.34 | Atriace | Feels like a code war. |
| 16:43.37 | malreth | take it as a challenge. there's probably a way to get what you want done |
| 16:43.48 | Cide | what does it do, specifically? |
| 16:44.00 | Cide | and which addon? |
| 16:44.54 | Atriace | I was moving the quest frame. CT_Mod repositions the quest frame with anchors (which is cool) but it does so at each QUEST_LOG_UPDATE (thereby clearing all anchor points). |
| 16:45.23 | Atriace | I was trying to hook into reanchorTracker function |
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| 16:45.53 | Cide | um |
| 16:45.56 | Cide | are you sure it's enabled? |
| 16:45.58 | Cide | err |
| 16:45.59 | Cide | disabled |
| 16:46.18 | Atriace | The mod is enabled, if that's what you're asking. |
| 16:46.22 | Cide | no, the feature |
| 16:46.25 | malreth | disable the feature |
| 16:46.57 | Atriace | It's on by default. |
| 16:47.07 | malreth | yeah... disable it |
| 16:47.18 | malreth | sometimes addons just can't play nice with each other |
| 16:47.22 | foxlit | You can disable it programmatically anyway |
| 16:47.23 | Atriace | You mean "Unlock Quest Tracker"? |
| 16:47.37 | Atriace | That's off. |
| 16:47.43 | foxlit | would probably be simpler than unregistering QUEST_LOG_UPDATE |
| 16:47.55 | Cide | no, not that |
| 16:48.00 | Cide | well |
| 16:48.01 | Cide | I don't know |
| 16:48.14 | Cide | what're the other features? |
| 16:48.18 | Cide | related to quest tracker |
| 16:48.25 | Atriace | Just that. Repositioning. |
| 16:48.45 | Atriace | By default, I'm locating it to the bottomright. |
| 16:48.45 | Cide | grr |
| 16:48.49 | Cide | don't make me look at the code |
| 16:48.54 | Atriace | tee hee |
| 16:50.24 | Lopeppeppy | Cide is allergic to code. |
| 16:50.30 | Atriace | http://wowi.pastey.net/82181 |
| 16:51.22 | Cide | that's not what I asked for :P |
| 16:51.34 | malreth | s/asked/axed/ |
| 16:51.55 | Cide | but ya, you appear to be right |
| 16:52.02 | Cide | sucks to be you |
| 16:52.05 | Atriace | lol |
| 16:52.46 | Atriace | Foxlit: you mentioned that "local function foo() ...; end GFOO = foo;" might work. Do you still think so, after seeing the code? |
| 16:53.05 | malreth | Atriace: no, he was showing how it wouldn't work |
| 16:53.21 | Atriace | Well.... settles that. :) |
| 16:53.42 | malreth | Atriace: find the frame that has the QUEST_LOG_UPDATE event registered and unregister it |
| 16:53.43 | art3mis | anyone know of a site that will check if an email address is valid? |
| 16:53.52 | Cide | www.regular-expressions.info |
| 16:54.09 | foxlit | Cide: cide@notctmodnet.com |
| 16:54.11 | malreth | art3mis: no, spammers would be all over that like something on something |
| 16:54.15 | Lopeppeppy | art3mis, there are no valid email addresses. |
| 16:54.31 | foxlit | ask the MX server |
| 16:54.35 | art3mis | dnsstuff used to have a check |
| 16:54.44 | Atriace | Cide: could I just load saved vars much the way your preferences are read? |
| 16:54.45 | malreth | yeah... then spam happened |
| 16:54.50 | art3mis | it would just connect and see if the email addy was right |
| 16:55.03 | art3mis | yes thats right malreth spam started 3 months ago ;P |
| 16:55.13 | malreth | most servers won't respond to those queries anymore |
| 16:55.16 | art3mis | porecisely the same day they went to a subscription format ;P |
| 16:55.30 | Cide | Atriace: um.. check the saved vars file and see the syntax? :P |
| 16:55.38 | Cide | it does some fancy wrapping |
| 16:55.56 | malreth | mail servers should always just respond with OK or something when sending the rcpt to thing or whatever the command is |
| 16:56.13 | malreth | and not give any indication whether or not the address is valid or not |
| 16:57.00 | art3mis | http://www.email-unlimited.com/tools/verify-email.aspx |
| 16:57.44 | foxlit | If you want it desperately, send an email with an activation toen that users can return to you with |
| 16:57.53 | malreth | art3mis: that site is probably a harvester site |
| 16:57.56 | foxlit | but, honestly, email.bugmenot.com > e-mail registration |
| 16:58.23 | foxlit | malreth: silly harvesting, then -- much more likely to test that it's not valid |
| 16:58.33 | foxlit | = 554 Service unavailable; Client host [71.18.216.56] blocked using zen.spamhaus.org; http://www.spamhaus.org/query/bl?ip=71.18.216.56 |
| 16:58.56 | malreth | i just tested it with an invalid address on one of my domains. it returned "OK" |
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| 16:59.30 | foxlit | returns "ANTISPAM" on the same thing for my mail server |
| 16:59.51 | malreth | so data returned by any such verification tool is likely to be useless |
| 17:01.20 | foxlit | Sure your invalid email isn't bounced to some default account? |
| 17:02.07 | malreth | i have wildcards turned off |
| 17:02.11 | Fin | does anyone know of an alterntive to MobMap? |
| 17:02.58 | Lopeppeppy | What exactly does MobMap do for you, Fin? |
| 17:03.38 | Fin | it is a fairly comprehensive database of quests, merchants, recipes, drop rates, and other stuff that I can't think of right now |
| 17:03.40 | malreth | regardless, it's an invalid address. even if my service provider redirects all rcpts to a bounce account, it's still an invalid account. the effect is the same, it spoils the data mining capability of spammers |
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| 17:04.03 | Fin | I use it mostly to find out what mob drops something I'm looking for, and as a full recipe database |
| 17:04.08 | kamdis | LightHeaded with all the modules (NPC Data, etc.) |
| 17:04.10 | kamdis | ? |
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| 17:04.24 | Fin | the interface is a bit clunky though, and there are lots of missing items in the drop rates bit |
| 17:04.43 | kamdis | I can't think of one that does all that MobMap does, though |
| 17:04.52 | kamdis | You'd need a few to replace it entirely |
| 17:04.54 | Lopeppeppy | LightHeaded doesn't do drops or recipes, just quests.... I think only MobMap attempts to do it all in one go. |
| 17:04.56 | Fin | I use LightHeaded already :) it's great for what it does, but it only covers quests and comments really |
| 17:05.18 | Fin | what I would love, is something like that addon written by that guy that I can't remember, who did mailto |
| 17:05.21 | Fin | uhmm |
| 17:05.56 | Fin | it had a command /uses, you could type /uses <item> to find, well, what recipe used a particular item, and /findrecipe <item> - much nicer with slash commands |
| 17:06.50 | Fin | I think there's a french alternative that I've seen on wowui, but, well, it's french |
| 17:07.11 | Lopeppeppy | En francais! |
| 17:07.16 | Fin | oui |
| 17:07.34 | kd3 | whee! via fark: "[Stupid] The end of days is upon us; Behold: Hello Kitty, the MMORPG" |
| 17:08.01 | Lopeppeppy | So I saw on my raid guild page this morning. art3mis, get 'em! |
| 17:08.13 | kamdis | There's that mod that puts all the recipes/items something's used in in the tooltip...can't remember what it's called though. |
| 17:09.06 | art3mis | laugh |
| 17:09.19 | Fin | the author of MobMap doesn't seem too responsive to comments either - at least, he's very selective about those he chooses to respond to |
| 17:09.23 | art3mis | hk the mmorpg would need a WoW interface ;P |
| 17:09.43 | Fin | yarr: http://www.hellokittyonline.com/us/ |
| 17:09.55 | Lopeppeppy | Maybe they just need you to offer your services, art3mis? |
| 17:10.38 | art3mis | laugh |
| 17:10.46 | Fin | aha |
| 17:11.06 | Fin | http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/9905/ <-- Carbonite |
| 17:11.15 | Fin | seems related to http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8214-CarboniteQuest.html (Carbonite Quest) |
| 17:11.27 | Fin | oh |
| 17:11.28 | Fin | "Our trial version has been replaced with CARBONITE Quest." |
| 17:11.30 | art3mis | "hi i made hkui for world of warcraft as a complete violation of all your trademarks and copyrights, you should give me a free account for life so i can make a world of warcraft ui mod for your online game.... it's only fair" |
| 17:11.37 | Esamynn|Work | ~lart Fin |
| 17:11.37 | purl | readies the nuke launcher and fires some rounds at Fin |
| 17:11.50 | Esamynn|Work | don't you *EVER* link that in here again |
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| 17:12.04 | Fin | hmm |
| 17:12.11 | Fin | addons with registered trademarks... that's a new one |
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| 17:12.16 | Esamynn|Work | you evil, evil person |
| 17:12.20 | Fisker- | your mother is a new one |
| 17:12.29 | Esamynn|Work | ~lart Fisker- |
| 17:12.29 | purl | hits Fisker- with an anvil and laughs with a contralto voice ... Haha Ha HA Ha |
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| 17:12.43 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Lunessa. |
| 17:12.45 | Fin | could you please educate me as to the evilles that you speak of? |
| 17:13.06 | Lunessa | *groggily* Morning Lopeppeppy. |
| 17:13.15 | Esamynn|Work | ~poke Lunessa |
| 17:13.16 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Lunessa, pokes Lunessa repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 17:13.16 | Fin | I want to join in the hating |
| 17:13.37 | art3mis | Fin: im talking about the art and name dumbie ;P |
| 17:13.52 | Esamynn|Work | Fin: well, there are 3 links I could be smacking you about, which *one* do you think it might be? |
| 17:14.05 | Fin | wowui? |
| 17:14.06 | art3mis | im gonna guess the carboinite one |
| 17:14.11 | Fin | they're all carbonite links |
| 17:14.12 | Esamynn|Work | eeerrrr, wrong |
| 17:14.13 | Lopeppeppy | I'm gonna guess Hello Kitteh. |
| 17:14.19 | Esamynn|Work | ding dign ding |
| 17:14.21 | Esamynn|Work | we have a winna |
| 17:14.22 | malreth | agree with Lopeppeppy |
| 17:14.30 | Lopeppeppy | Peppy R SMRT. |
| 17:14.33 | Fin | oh, boooring, I was hoping for some addon drama :( |
| 17:14.40 | Fin | but hey, hatin's hatin |
| 17:14.42 | Esamynn|Work | ~poke Fin |
| 17:14.43 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Fin, pokes Fin repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 17:14.50 | malreth | i've been waiting for an mmo+hellokitty for all my life |
| 17:14.58 | Fin | that says a lot |
| 17:14.58 | art3mis | esa behaves like that football player that actually likes boys but has to ask tough and say he hates fags when asked or ribbd about it |
| 17:15.11 | Esamynn|Work | Lunessa: purl and I were just trying to help you wake up :) |
| 17:15.15 | art3mis | actually most people do in reference to hk |
| 17:15.25 | Lunessa | matreth - you must be a masochist. |
| 17:15.38 | art3mis | curiosity makes me wanna play that |
| 17:15.48 | Fin | I would like to state, for the record, that this channel is in my opinion the leader in WoW-related gender confusion |
| 17:15.51 | Fin | that is all. |
| 17:15.52 | Esamynn|Work | art3mis: nah, I just like getting on the Hello Kitty bandwagon of hate ;) |
| 17:15.52 | art3mis | without sound of course |
| 17:15.58 | art3mis | laugh |
| 17:16.08 | art3mis | Esamynn|Work: check me host beeyotch ;P |
| 17:16.16 | Lunessa | ~IRC |
| 17:16.17 | purl | "Welcome to IRC: where the men are men, the women are men, and the little girls are FBI agents." |
| 17:16.23 | Fin | oh man |
| 17:16.32 | Fin | no, actually, I take that back |
| 17:16.33 | Esamynn|Work | art3mis: EVIL!!!! |
| 17:16.34 | Fin | -oh man |
| 17:16.37 | Esamynn|Work | I always new you were evil! |
| 17:16.39 | Esamynn|Work | ~lart3mis |
| 17:16.40 | purl | ACTION smacks art3mis upside the head just cuz |
| 17:16.46 | Esamynn|Work | ~lart art3mis |
| 17:16.46 | purl | declares art3mis a moron |
| 17:16.48 | art3mis | evil genius! |
| 17:16.53 | Esamynn|Work | haha |
| 17:17.05 | Fin | venius |
| 17:17.07 | art3mis | HKUI got more prime coverage and any other wow addon ;P |
| 17:17.22 | art3mis | the evil shall continue to infect your soul! |
| 17:17.40 | Esamynn|Work | art3mis: got prime coverage??!?!!? |
| 17:17.49 | Lopeppeppy | "I just want to ask you a few questions, MISTER Anderson." |
| 17:17.53 | sysrage | lol. guild pretty much forces locks to go affliction yet they don't cast CoE when there's 4 mages in the raid |
| 17:17.53 | Fin | HKUI... I know I know that, I can't recall exactly what though... I've got such a terrible, uh, thingy, you know, that whatsit... |
| 17:17.57 | art3mis | go do a google for hellokitty and warcraft |
| 17:18.04 | Fin | ahhhhh |
| 17:18.06 | Esamynn|Work | so I really want to? |
| 17:18.06 | Fin | got it, thanks |
| 17:18.09 | Fin | that was enough |
| 17:18.09 | art3mis | and check the urls where it was mentioned, posted and talked about ;P |
| 17:18.12 | Esamynn|Work | s/so/do/ |
| 17:18.34 | Lunessa | One of these lives has a future, one of these... does not. |
| 17:18.43 | Esamynn|Work | Hello Kitty is just....... |
| 17:18.46 | Esamynn|Work | words fail me |
| 17:18.54 | art3mis | blogs.guardian.co.uk/games/archives/2007/11/01/wow_hello_kitty.html - 60k - |
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| 17:19.04 | art3mis | blog.wired.com/games/2007/11/play-world-of-w.html |
| 17:19.14 | art3mis | hellokittylife.com/2007/09/hello-kitty-island-adventure-world-of.html |
| 17:19.22 | Esamynn|Work | art3mis: did you actually write HKUI? |
| 17:19.26 | art3mis | www.kittyhell.com/2007/10/21/hello-kitty-world-of-warcraft/ |
| 17:19.40 | art3mis | compilation of addons and such |
| 17:19.45 | art3mis | the rest of it is all mine ;P |
| 17:19.53 | Esamynn|Work | because I saw a real one once, it made my eyes bleed |
| 17:19.58 | art3mis | i essentially just themed it |
| 17:20.34 | Esamynn|Work | sorry, I just don't get the phenomenon |
| 17:20.44 | art3mis | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7517-HelloKittyIslandAdventure.html |
| 17:20.46 | art3mis | ;) |
| 17:21.17 | Esamynn|Work | I motion to remove art3mis' right to speak |
| 17:21.21 | art3mis | hell according to her blog it made amber night actually come back to warcraft ;P |
| 17:21.25 | kamdis | ~lart3mis |
| 17:21.26 | purl | ACTION smacks art3mis upside the head just cuz |
| 17:23.04 | Lunessa | Hello Kitty doesn't move me, not really. I just don't 'get' it. |
| 17:23.20 | art3mis | its one of those amusing things |
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| 17:23.29 | art3mis | like the bunny that hates people |
| 17:23.29 | Esamynn|Work | Lunessa: exactly! |
| 17:23.35 | Esamynn|Work | O_o |
| 17:23.46 | Esamynn|Work | I don't need such information |
| 17:24.06 | art3mis | everyone does ;P |
| 17:24.09 | Lopeppeppy | I love Happy Bunny. |
| 17:24.17 | art3mis | yes happy bunny ;P |
| 17:24.22 | Lunessa | Foamy the Squirrel. |
| 17:25.05 | kamdis | someone on the forums said Bongos isn't compatible with cyCircled. That's not right, is it? |
| 17:25.15 | Lopeppeppy | Pillsey is my hero. |
| 17:25.23 | kd3 | lies. I use the two together |
| 17:25.38 | Lopeppeppy | Kamdis -- Bongos2 has a lot of issues with cyCircled. Some people can make it work, some can't. I can't find a common denominator. :| |
| 17:25.52 | kamdis | Ah, thanks. |
| 17:26.01 | art3mis | i may have to redo all the hkui stuff too, for some awesome reason the latest version of eepanels destroys the graphcis in its folder |
| 17:26.23 | Lunessa | They both work well together. I've done it lots. |
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| 17:27.22 | kamdis | I thought I'd used the two together in the past |
| 17:27.33 | Lopeppeppy | I've had it work for me just fine as well. I *suspect* third addon somewhere interfering, or a bad library or something like that. |
| 17:28.24 | kamdis | sounds plausible. |
| 17:29.19 | sysrage | curse of doom only does 1 actual 'tick' of damage right? and it takes a full minute for that to happen? |
| 17:29.47 | Fin | da |
| 17:30.33 | art3mis | hrm |
| 17:30.43 | sysrage | so an aff lock that shows 2 ticks of CoD for a total of 16k damage really fails at life when it means CoE wasn't up for at least 2 minutes with 4 mages in the raid |
| 17:30.49 | art3mis | it appears im gonna have to go out today and get something valentiney |
| 17:31.02 | sysrage | 2 min of CoE would have increased my damage alone by more than 16k |
| 17:31.17 | ralfWORK | sysrage: I'd say he fails, yes |
| 17:31.59 | ralfWORK | depending on makeup and the fight, I'd think the priority would be CoE, CoS, Co<everythingelseyouwant> |
| 17:33.06 | sysrage | he had 5 ticks of CoA too for a grand total of 1087 damage. don't even see how that's possible. wowhead says CoA does 1356 damage with no +sp |
| 17:33.28 | ralfWORK | interesting |
| 17:33.36 | ralfWORK | what fight? |
| 17:33.41 | sysrage | lurker |
| 17:34.01 | Mallabus | he could have dived half way through? how many times does CoEx usually tick? |
| 17:34.12 | sysrage | oh. not sure. that's probably it |
| 17:34.17 | ralfWORK | good point |
| 17:34.18 | Mallabus | but yeh, silly curse to be using in a raid |
| 17:34.21 | sysrage | he still fails for not just keeping CoE up |
| 17:34.29 | Fin | was there more than one lock there? |
| 17:34.36 | sysrage | ya but he was the one assigned to CoE |
| 17:34.46 | ralfWORK | oh well if he was assigned to it |
| 17:34.48 | ralfWORK | and didn't do it |
| 17:34.52 | ralfWORK | he fails right there |
| 17:35.06 | Fin | well, if he was assigned to CoE, and there was no CoE, then, guildkickrapeshoutandwalk slowly away |
| 17:35.06 | ralfWORK | pretty damn hard actually |
| 17:35.23 | Mallabus | any of you have much experience with how good curse of recklesness is? |
| 17:35.27 | Shirik | CoD is what? |
| 17:35.30 | Mallabus | I heard that it's quite a dps boost |
| 17:35.32 | ralfWORK | curse of doom |
| 17:35.32 | sysrage | curse of doom |
| 17:35.35 | Shirik | oh right |
| 17:35.40 | Shirik | there's too many curses to remember |
| 17:35.42 | Fin | curse of recklessness is awesome for unfearing |
| 17:36.08 | ralfWORK | Mallabus: hmm... seems like you're smart to use that on prince, but I could be getting my curses confused |
| 17:36.17 | Fin | if a feared target gets too close to some other mobs, stick CoR on it and woo yay feel clever like I do |
| 17:36.19 | ralfWORK | indeed, too many to remember, esp. as I'm not a lock :P |
| 17:36.31 | Mallabus | it's the one that increases the mob's AP but reduces their armor |
| 17:36.47 | ralfWORK | Mallabus: oh ok. that must be the one to *not* use on prince then lol |
| 17:37.01 | Mallabus | with all the armor penetration flying around today I heard it was quite a nice dps curse for physical dpsers |
| 17:37.19 | sysrage | definitely takes skill to juggle fear and CoR for a good CC. only seen it done well a couple times |
| 17:37.56 | Fin | I just keep CoR in a handy spot for emergencies, it's saved my bottom more than once |
| 17:38.14 | ralfWORK | my SW:D has saved more healers than I can remember :P |
| 17:38.25 | ralfWORK | tank kept losing mobs in heroic ramps last night |
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| 17:38.40 | ralfWORK | SW:D to take the aggro off healer |
| 17:38.44 | ralfWORK | wooowooo |
| 17:39.35 | Fin | btw, can I just say that as a alt-lock with a priest main, Soul Shatter is just fucking ridiculously good compared to crappy old Fade |
| 17:39.46 | Fin | it's just unecessary, it really is |
| 17:39.47 | Fin | +n? |
| 17:39.55 | kamdis | +n |
| 17:39.58 | kamdis | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:40.00 | ralfWORK | fade makes me cry |
| 17:40.01 | Mallabus | yeh, especially since SPs seem to generate the most threat |
| 17:40.06 | dylanm | Man I hate fade. |
| 17:40.07 | ralfWORK | yes we do |
| 17:40.07 | kamdis | Fade is crap |
| 17:40.11 | ralfWORK | fade is shit |
| 17:40.12 | Mallabus | I hate it when they have to tone their dps down |
| 17:40.28 | Cide | FADE SUCKS |
| 17:40.32 | Cide | sorry, I just wanted to jump on the wagon |
| 17:40.34 | ralfWORK | I seldom use VE anymore |
| 17:40.47 | Fin | 50% *permanent* threat reduction - mad! |
| 17:40.50 | ralfWORK | (or do I mean VT?) |
| 17:40.59 | ralfWORK | whatever one makes the green numbers appear! |
| 17:41.07 | Lunessa | I use fade all the time. |
| 17:41.10 | ralfWORK | sure way to pull aggro, sucks bad |
| 17:41.13 | ralfWORK | Lunessa: FAIL |
| 17:41.14 | Mallabus | it'd be funny if feign death was usable on a party member :) |
| 17:41.23 | kamdis | I use it too, it just sucks. |
| 17:41.26 | Fin | it means locks HAVE to try and do as MUCH damage as possible to get as much aggro as possible as soon as possible, to make the most efficient use of Soul Shatter |
| 17:41.51 | kamdis | it should be a true dump IMO |
| 17:42.24 | ralfWORK | kamdis: agreed. although ~1k threat isn't exactly alot |
| 17:42.31 | Shirik | Improved Fade - Reduction of threat is permanent |
| 17:42.33 | Fin | I swear, locks are some dev's pet class (ahah! little word play there, yah) that (s)he just kept buffing with extra shit every time they were playing and ran into a little problem |
| 17:42.34 | Shirik | That's all that's needed |
| 17:42.37 | Shirik | stick it in shadow tree |
| 17:42.47 | foxlit | Better tanks. |
| 17:42.50 | foxlit | Problem solved :) |
| 17:42.51 | ralfWORK | Lunessa: healing theory or VT/VE theory? |
| 17:42.55 | Shirik | Well yeah :) |
| 17:42.55 | Fin | no! not in the shadow tree! |
| 17:42.57 | Lunessa | healing |
| 17:42.58 | Shirik | We don't have the problem |
| 17:43.00 | Fin | I want it for healing! |
| 17:43.02 | kamdis | If you're out-aggroing the tank just healing then the group's fucked in other ways bedies your getting aggro |
| 17:43.10 | Shirik | Fin if you're pulling aggro healing you need to get rid of your tank |
| 17:43.11 | kamdis | *besides |
| 17:43.18 | ralfWORK | gkick tank |
| 17:43.22 | ralfWORK | Lunessa: when was this? |
| 17:43.31 | |pez| | I'm too cute |
| 17:43.42 | Fin | yeah well, technically you shouldn't really need fade or soul shatter or anything as DPS either |
| 17:43.48 | Lunessa | Shaman discussions yesterday, and yor jumping on the fade sucks bandwagon. |
| 17:44.11 | Fin | that bandwagon must be mighty large by now |
| 17:44.14 | ralfWORK | uhm |
| 17:44.23 | Fin | ho humberoo |
| 17:44.23 | Lunessa | And now that I've stirred the pot, I must away to the office. Back in an hour. |
| 17:44.36 | ralfWORK | aight |
| 17:44.39 | ralfWORK | btw Lunessa |
| 17:44.43 | ralfWORK | fade sucks :) |
| 17:44.45 | |pez| | I made pizza with a heart in the middle, the heart is a larger chunk of cheese... |
| 17:44.50 | Mallabus | makes me happy I raid as a hunter :) threat just isn't an issue |
| 17:44.53 | zenzelezz | on fights where the aggro resets Fade and the rest can be quite handy |
| 17:44.54 | |pez| | and I've enhanced it by putting ketchup around the border. |
| 17:45.01 | kamdis | ~lart Mallabus |
| 17:45.01 | purl | pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps Mallabus |
| 17:45.12 | Fin | zenzelezz: sure, it's not like Fade is useless, just crap |
| 17:45.16 | kamdis | No Hunter talk! :P |
| 17:45.18 | ralfWORK | uhm... |
| 17:45.37 | ralfWORK | can't think of anything else "like fade" |
| 17:45.42 | zenzelezz | Fin: that I can't counter |
| 17:46.10 | Fin | heh |
| 17:48.01 | ralfWORK | sad thing is, we'll probably never get a threat dump |
| 17:48.39 | kamdis | We don't *really* need one. |
| 17:48.46 | Mallabus | is it childish of me to giggle when I see the word *dump*? |
| 17:48.52 | Mallabus | regardless of context |
| 17:48.57 | Fin | yno |
| 17:49.00 | kamdis | I'd just rather have something more than situationally useful instead if it isn't a true dump. |
| 17:49.11 | ralfWORK | Mallabus: lol yes but now I'm going to have to laugh every time I see it too |
| 17:49.12 | Fin | kamdis: such as? |
| 17:49.14 | kamdis | Mallabus lol |
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| 17:49.30 | kamdis | Something not threat related, I don't know. Anything. |
| 17:49.37 | ralfWORK | wait wait |
| 17:49.54 | ralfWORK | I know what you want Kam |
| 17:49.56 | Fin | magic pants! |
| 17:50.12 | Fin | of the WHALE! |
| 17:50.28 | kamdis | of the LOL |
| 17:50.43 | ralfWORK | a holy spell that does damage and incapacitates the target for 2 seconds! |
| 17:50.49 | kamdis | hahaha |
| 17:50.51 | kamdis | right |
| 17:50.54 | ralfWORK | :D |
| 17:50.59 | foxlit | symbol of hope! |
| 17:51.06 | kamdis | I have that. |
| 17:51.06 | ralfWORK | that's *exactly* what you've wanted, I know |
| 17:51.08 | kamdis | :) |
| 17:51.14 | kamdis | I love me some SoH |
| 17:51.23 | ralfWORK | SoH is really damn sweet |
| 17:51.32 | kamdis | It is. |
| 17:51.36 | ralfWORK | I should bring up my little 2nd priest and make her shadow |
| 17:51.42 | kamdis | I wish my Undead had it :( |
| 17:51.48 | ralfWORK | and be teh bestest imba mana battery evar |
| 17:51.55 | kamdis | freaking Touch of Weakenss can sod off. |
| 17:52.30 | Shirik | ~1.34 * .00375 |
| 17:52.31 | purl | 0.005025 |
| 17:52.31 | foxlit | Besides, +hit <3 |
| 17:52.31 | oreth | if you are not amazed by this... then you are a cynic: http://www.fliggo.com/video/ALvrdtoi |
| 17:52.31 | Mallabus | that +hit racial is tasty |
| 17:52.31 | Shirik | lua>1.34*.00375 |
| 17:52.31 | lua_bot | Shirik: 0.005025 |
| 17:52.31 | Shirik | hmmm |
| 17:52.31 | batrick | hello friends |
| 17:52.32 | Shirik | oops |
| 17:52.35 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 17:52.41 | nevcairiel | ~botsnack |
| 17:52.41 | purl | thanks, nevcairiel |
| 17:52.44 | Shirik | I wonder if it's supposed to be 5V or 5mV |
| 17:52.53 | kamdis | In favor of what, Peppy? |
| 17:52.54 | Shirik | my data disagrees >.> |
| 17:53.26 | ralfWORK | I recently bit the bullet and made my shadow weave gear |
| 17:53.33 | Lopeppeppy | Anything that's not so hated, ugh. |
| 17:53.46 | kamdis | I love my priests :) |
| 17:53.47 | ralfWORK | I keep thinking I accidentally casted VE |
| 17:53.48 | [Liquidor] | ~seen cncfanatics |
| 17:53.49 | purl | cncfanatics is currently on #wowi-lounge (1h 12m 2s) #wowace (1h 12m 2s). Has said a total of 3 messages. Is idling for 9m 16s, last said: 'Killmore: giev :('. |
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| 17:54.12 | ralfWORK | Lopeppeppy: don't shelve the priest! |
| 17:54.23 | ralfWORK | shadow or holy? |
| 17:54.30 | Lopeppeppy | Holy/Disc. |
| 17:54.38 | zenzelezz | healing priests are hated? |
| 17:54.42 | ralfWORK | go shadow then |
| 17:54.45 | Shirik | ~kill zenzelezz |
| 17:54.46 | purl | ACTION shoots a excited anti-electron gun at zenzelezz |
| 17:54.50 | Shirik | I'm a healing priest! |
| 17:55.08 | Shirik | Oh nm :/ |
| 17:55.10 | zenzelezz | so? I was asking peppy about what she said |
| 17:55.10 | Fin | being a cynic is something most people seem proud of around here, I think |
| 17:55.11 | Shirik | ~unkill zenzelezz |
| 17:55.16 | Fin | however! I am duly impressed |
| 17:55.17 | Shirik | ~ressurect zenzelezz |
| 17:55.21 | Shirik | well |
| 17:55.23 | Shirik | something like that |
| 17:55.28 | zenzelezz | ~revive me |
| 17:55.29 | purl | ACTION performs the Heimlich, mouth-to-mouth, shock treatment and anything else necessary to revive zenzelezz |
| 17:55.47 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy, is it just your guild or? |
| 17:55.48 | Mallabus | saw this earlier http://www.break.com/index/tesla-electric-current-plays-music.html pretty awesome |
| 17:55.49 | Lopeppeppy | I'm hearing some serious hate for the mechanics today, zenzelezz. |
| 17:56.12 | Shirik | from? |
| 17:56.23 | kamdis | Aw, it's just theorycraft Peppy. We wouldn't be WoW players if we didn't whine about our class mechanics! |
| 17:56.23 | Lopeppeppy | Fade sucks? Fade is useless? |
| 17:56.33 | Cide | yep |
| 17:56.35 | ralfWORK | fade sucks |
| 17:56.37 | Cide | /whine |
| 17:56.45 | zenzelezz | peppy: it's just that the amount of threat it helps you with is very low |
| 17:56.57 | ralfWORK | zenzelezz: and it comes back |
| 17:57.06 | Cide | I'm glad that it comes back |
| 17:57.06 | zenzelezz | that too |
| 17:57.07 | ralfWORK | that's teh suck part! |
| 17:57.11 | Cide | no |
| 17:57.13 | Lopeppeppy | Of course it does, ralfwork. You're doing your job. |
| 17:57.14 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy: It's one little ability :) I have no problem with Fade |
| 17:57.20 | Shirik | I DO think shadow priests should have something to help them |
| 17:57.25 | Shirik | but I think Fade is fine for healers |
| 17:57.32 | Cide | it would be horrible if it reduced your threat that little and it didn't come back |
| 17:57.42 | zenzelezz | I don't care if Fade sucks or not, I don't bring a priest to a raid to see her fade ;) |
| 17:57.45 | Cide | because then you'd have to spam it every time it came up on threat sensitive fights |
| 17:57.49 | ralfWORK | zenzelezz: ahahahahaah |
| 17:57.52 | Cide | I'd rather just stuff it away in a corner |
| 17:58.15 | ralfWORK | Cide: true enough. just don't train fade, then you'll have an excuse lol |
| 17:58.18 | art3mis | ya know what would be awesome? |
| 17:58.25 | Shirik | Cide: I guess fair enough, it would have to become percentage-based too |
| 17:58.31 | ralfWORK | shadowpriest AOE spell! that would be awesome! |
| 17:58.37 | art3mis | some sort of addon or something that could display yer buffs and debuffs at the character screen |
| 17:58.38 | ralfWORK | :P |
| 17:58.42 | art3mis | well okay and that ;P |
| 17:58.48 | Shirik | still Lopeppeppy, healing priests seem to be a rare breed these days |
| 17:58.55 | Shirik | you can't leave me with just |Jelly| and Fin :( |
| 17:59.00 | Lopeppeppy | I just want to have fun, Shirik. Being a healer already sucks. |
| 17:59.25 | Mallabus | reroll druid! great fun to level up |
| 17:59.32 | Mallabus | really enjoying mine atm |
| 17:59.34 | Shirik | Well if you don't enjoy it, I'm all for you taking something else. I like healing :) But do what you like. |
| 18:00.05 | zenzelezz | just don't ditch is solely because someone has an issue with one of your abilities |
| 18:00.18 | ralfWORK | *shrug* if you don't like it, spec a different tree |
| 18:00.24 | ralfWORK | that's kinda what's nice about hybrids |
| 18:00.37 | art3mis | healing priests have been a rare breed since the 1.8 druid updates |
| 18:01.17 | art3mis | holy priesst rule at group healing, pallys at single and druids and shammys can more than take thier place so why not go shadow and be a mana battery and more welcome |
| 18:01.22 | zenzelezz | not in my guilds |
| 18:01.39 | kamdis | Shirik, hey, I have 2 holy priests |
| 18:01.49 | Shirik | er, sorry |
| 18:01.51 | Shirik | and kamdis twice |
| 18:02.02 | kamdis | heh, just saying it's not just you Jelly and Fin |
| 18:02.17 | cncfanatics | [Liquidor]: pong |
| 18:02.26 | Shirik | Jelly, me, Fin, kamdis, and kamdis |
| 18:02.35 | Shirik | in fact, there seems to be an abnormality of priests in this channel tbh |
| 18:02.46 | cncfanatics | paladins > priests |
| 18:02.53 | art3mis | only for single targets |
| 18:02.53 | cncfanatics | i'm rerolling a paladin btw, for the second time :p |
| 18:02.56 | Shirik | ~kill cncfanatics |
| 18:02.57 | purl | ACTION shoots a ionized fluxneutrino gun at cncfanatics |
| 18:03.00 | art3mis | paladins suck for group healing |
| 18:03.01 | cncfanatics | :( |
| 18:03.12 | Lopeppeppy | art3mis, that's not true. |
| 18:03.14 | ralfWORK | I thought about rolling a paladin once |
| 18:03.27 | ralfWORK | and then I realized mashing 1 button over and over and over and over just isn't fun |
| 18:03.31 | Lopeppeppy | YOU are why I never get into groups, not me. I heal all heroic 5 mans just fine. |
| 18:03.47 | art3mis | 5man yes |
| 18:03.50 | art3mis | 25 no |
| 18:04.03 | art3mis | pallies arent setup to be multiple target healers essciently enough |
| 18:04.04 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy: In 5 mans you usually only have to heal one target |
| 18:04.07 | art3mis | efficiently |
| 18:04.17 | Lopeppeppy | No one can heal a 25 man by themselves. And in a bad 5 man, I'm healing all 5 of us. |
| 18:04.30 | art3mis | priests on the other hand excel at multiples and fall behind on singles |
| 18:04.31 | ralfWORK | lol |
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| 18:04.32 | cncfanatics | ralfWORK: who said I was rolling a healer ? |
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| 18:04.43 | ralfWORK | cncfanatics: no one |
| 18:04.47 | Shirik | In all honesty, I disagree with the "fall behind on singles" |
| 18:04.59 | Shirik | Priests are all around healers, they have, quite honestly, too many tricks up their sleeves |
| 18:05.08 | cncfanatics | btw ralfWORK you can bind your heal to multiple buttons to get some change ! |
| 18:05.17 | ralfWORK | cncfanatics: AHAHAHAAHAH good idea |
| 18:05.28 | Lopeppeppy | All of the healing classes are slightly different. *shrug* |
| 18:05.42 | Shirik | yup |
| 18:05.57 | art3mis | Shirik: in comparison to a pally for instance |
| 18:05.58 | Shirik | I tried both a paladin and a druid; my tactic for healing drastically changed |
| 18:06.04 | Shirik | art3mis: I still disagree |
| 18:06.11 | Shirik | I'll agree that the paladin could do it for 5 years |
| 18:06.15 | Shirik | but not that priests fall behind |
| 18:06.59 | ralfWORK | the deal with raiding holy priest, imo, is they aren't expert at 1 thing. That plus lack of benefit from stacking them, and you have a problem |
| 18:07.29 | Shirik | what's wrong with not being an expert at 1 thing? They can do whatever they need to to get the job done |
| 18:07.43 | Shirik | I'm consistently at the top of the charts, and not by just a tiny amount. And we have a good team. |
| 18:07.47 | kamdis | You should have at least 2 in a 25man raid, imo. One with Imp Divine Spirit and 1 with CoH |
| 18:08.03 | Cide | DS isn't that great |
| 18:08.07 | Cide | it's better next patch though |
| 18:08.07 | ralfWORK | nothing's wrong with not being expert at one thing if you say "we need X healers" |
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| 18:08.15 | Josh_Borke | why is DS better next patch cide? |
| 18:08.19 | kamdis | No, but it's worth having one Priest with it, I think. |
| 18:08.26 | Cide | because spirit is a lot better |
| 18:08.40 | ralfWORK | oh they are doing something nutty with spirit aren't they |
| 18:08.41 | art3mis | Sexy Bitch: i've been married to you too long |
| 18:08.41 | art3mis | Sexy Bitch: i saw this "BUSINESS ANALYST AVP " |
| 18:08.42 | art3mis | Sexy Bitch: and thought....alien vs predator? what? |
| 18:08.45 | Shirik | oh goodies, so me stacking spirit is actually going to pay off :D |
| 18:08.50 | Shirik | not really stacking |
| 18:08.52 | Shirik | but I have a lot of it |
| 18:08.54 | art3mis | my wife is so special some days ;P |
| 18:09.04 | ralfWORK | art3mis: that's awesome |
| 18:09.07 | kamdis | yes, it will, Shirik, especially at T5+ |
| 18:09.13 | cog|work | I know it's probably old news to most of you but... ZOMGSPORE!!! http://www.bit-tech.net/gaming/2008/02/13/spore_hands-on_preview/1 |
| 18:09.14 | Shirik | I'm not T5 :< |
| 18:09.14 | Josh_Borke | i don't recall reading about that |
| 18:09.24 | art3mis | Shirik: consider that a paladin in a 5man can both enefit offence and defence as well as take care of themselves |
| 18:09.41 | art3mis | and still heal for days |
| 18:10.02 | art3mis | whereas a priest needs to rely on the others to make sure he's not dead in 3 seconds |
| 18:10.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Real quick: there will be NO 2.4 updates to KLH Threat Meter, correct? |
| 18:10.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Can anyone confirm that? |
| 18:10.16 | Shirik | if the priest dies in 3 seconds he needs a better reaction time |
| 18:10.24 | ralfWORK | or a better tank |
| 18:10.28 | Shirik | or a better tank |
| 18:10.32 | art3mis | while in a larger group there's more protection thus the excelling |
| 18:10.34 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 18:10.34 | Fin | or a better tank! |
| 18:10.43 | Fin | or bigger balls! |
| 18:10.46 | Fin | or MAGIC PANTS |
| 18:10.49 | Shirik | I'm not arguing that paladins are bad by any means |
| 18:10.53 | ralfWORK | OF THE WHALE? |
| 18:10.53 | art3mis | radioactive rubber pants! |
| 18:10.57 | Shirik | I'm arguing that priests aren't as bad as everyone seems to make them out to be |
| 18:10.58 | art3mis | oh no me neither |
| 18:11.04 | kamdis | Shirik, I agree |
| 18:11.14 | kamdis | We are jacks of all trades, which is super-handy |
| 18:11.15 | ralfWORK | Shirik: aight, here's the question then. After you have 1 CoH priest and 1 IDS priest, |
| 18:11.24 | art3mis | im saying though that priests are less ebeneficial than a pally on the small end single target style |
| 18:11.27 | art3mis | err beneficial |
| 18:11.29 | ralfWORK | what reason would there be to not bring another pally instead of a priest? |
| 18:11.49 | Shirik | Let's say on gruul you have 3 paladins healing the MT |
| 18:11.52 | ralfWORK | when they can give 1 more set of blessings to 25 peaple |
| 18:11.53 | art3mis | but the reverse is true in large groups ;P |
| 18:11.56 | kamdis | And I'm consistently top 3 in healing, along with another priest and a paladin, so I call BS on ralfWORK. ;-) |
| 18:12.04 | Shirik | k? |
| 18:12.06 | ralfWORK | kamdis: lol@healing meters |
| 18:12.18 | Lopeppeppy | Priests can have different blessings too, don't forget. Not all are "equal". |
| 18:12.32 | ralfWORK | Lopeppeppy: fort and ids... what else? |
| 18:12.39 | art3mis | heh kamdis in shadow im 4th on most healing meters and 1 or 2 on damage |
| 18:12.45 | Shirik | ralfWORK: What I'm saying is that the paladins, they're going to have to stick on their target |
| 18:12.47 | Shirik | priests, not so much |
| 18:12.48 | kamdis | then you ahve shitty healers |
| 18:12.50 | art3mis | does that make me a better healer than a paladin or more useful? |
| 18:12.51 | Lopeppeppy | Circle of Healing, help me out kamdis, what are the other talents.... |
| 18:12.52 | ralfWORK | Shirik: mm.. k |
| 18:12.54 | art3mis | not really |
| 18:13.06 | art3mis | im just an awesome shadow priest with CoS locks ;P |
| 18:13.07 | kamdis | PoM! |
| 18:13.13 | Shirik | in fact one of the most efficient ways to have a priest heal is to hit renew/pom immediately after a greater heal |
| 18:13.14 | zenzelezz | healing meters, like damage meters, are misleading |
| 18:13.16 | ralfWORK | PoM is great, sure |
| 18:13.30 | Shirik | And if everything goes 100% correct, that's fine with 3 pallies |
| 18:13.41 | Lopeppeppy | And not all priests have it. So stacking them can indeed have benefits. |
| 18:13.44 | Shirik | but if something goes wrong and it needs to be corrected, a priest is going to be able to do it much more easily (and efficiently) than a paladin |
| 18:13.56 | ralfWORK | Lopeppeppy: right... I said 1 IDS priest and 1 CoH priest |
| 18:14.22 | ralfWORK | between the 2 priests there, you'd have all the healy priest spells at the raids disposal |
| 18:14.25 | kamdis | I think you undervalue the Healing Priest a lot ralf |
| 18:14.37 | kamdis | like most people |
| 18:14.38 | Lopeppeppy | Unless you WANTED to have two CoH for a specific fight/strategy. |
| 18:14.45 | ralfWORK | kamdis: I played one 1-70. I love my priest holy and shadow |
| 18:14.54 | Lopeppeppy | Limiting yourself from the get-go is not wise. Be more flexible in your thinking. |
| 18:14.55 | ralfWORK | I think priests rule |
| 18:15.20 | ralfWORK | I think the ability of the player is often more important than class makeup in a raid |
| 18:15.35 | Lopeppeppy | Not denied. |
| 18:15.38 | ralfWORK | none of these things answer the question of "why would you want more than 2 priests in a raid" |
| 18:16.01 | Shirik | I already did |
| 18:16.02 | Fin | I was in a group as healer, with two shadow priests, recently |
| 18:16.04 | Shirik | you just didn't listen to me :) |
| 18:16.07 | Fin | awesom-uh |
| 18:16.24 | Lopeppeppy | "Unless you WANTED to...." |
| 18:16.24 | ralfWORK | and saying "well you can kill illidan with 5 holy priests" isn't exactly addressing it |
| 18:16.35 | Shirik | if you're going to assume your group works 100% correctly with 0 mistakes, then you can avoid using more than 2 priests |
| 18:16.35 | ralfWORK | Shirik: sorry, I gotcha |
| 18:16.48 | Shirik | if you're going to assume your group will make some errors (which happens to EVERY group) you can get some benefit. |
| 18:16.49 | Lopeppeppy | Because you can. *shrug* That's why I listen to music in the shower, because I can and I want to. |
| 18:17.04 | Shirik | I blow my hair in the shower |
| 18:17.12 | Shirik | <3 Lopeppeppy |
| 18:17.14 | Lopeppeppy | Indeed? Flexible. Rawr. |
| 18:17.31 | ralfWORK | Shirik: I would make the arguement that a shaman or a resto druid is less of a 1 trick pony than a pally |
| 18:17.39 | cncfanatics | Shirik: I blow in the shower ^^ |
| 18:17.47 | ralfWORK | I... shower in the shower |
| 18:18.04 | Shirik | resto druids rarely (and shouldn't) use a direct heal |
| 18:18.18 | Lopeppeppy | Tree is for hot. |
| 18:18.19 | Shirik | shamans I just know nothing about so I can't say anything about them |
| 18:18.34 | kamdis | chain Heal FTW |
| 18:18.37 | kamdis | it's awesome :) |
| 18:18.47 | ralfWORK | I'd think chain heal is a better "ohshit" than anything a priest might have |
| 18:18.50 | art3mis | you blow in the shower? |
| 18:18.57 | ralfWORK | but *shrug* |
| 18:19.04 | ralfWORK | different kind of ohshit |
| 18:19.05 | art3mis | circle of healing! |
| 18:19.24 | ralfWORK | tree hugger |
| 18:19.25 | kamdis | Chain heal should be a staple of Shaman healing, not an Ohshit |
| 18:19.31 | kamdis | imo |
| 18:19.33 | ScytheBlade1 | It's so totally awesome though. |
| 18:19.52 | cncfanatics | chain heal is awesome |
| 18:20.05 | ralfWORK | kamdis: maybe so. I'm with Shirik; (near-)zero experience with resto shaman |
| 18:20.20 | cncfanatics | any treehuggers here ? |
| 18:20.24 | Lopeppeppy | our shammie healer is all about chain heal. |
| 18:20.24 | Shirik | still, afaik |
| 18:20.26 | Shirik | shamans don't have hots |
| 18:20.30 | ScytheBlade1 | cncfanatics: I love my resto druid, yes |
| 18:20.31 | Lopeppeppy | I'm a baby tree hugger, only at 49 though. |
| 18:20.38 | ralfWORK | ok |
| 18:20.39 | Shirik | name the type of heal a priest doesn't have |
| 18:20.43 | ScytheBlade1 | cncfanatics: I love my 70 resto druid, yes |
| 18:20.49 | kamdis | ralf: http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t19181-shaman_how_heal_like_pro/ |
| 18:20.53 | cncfanatics | Shirik: the infinitely spammable type of heal :) |
| 18:21.01 | Shirik | coh is pretty damn close |
| 18:21.03 | cncfanatics | nah |
| 18:21.17 | cncfanatics | you won't spam coh half as long as fol with equivalent gear :p |
| 18:21.19 | Shirik | I literally spend the trash of the eye spamming it, with no breaks in between |
| 18:21.21 | kamdis | I can pretty much spam CoH forever |
| 18:21.51 | cncfanatics | FoL can be spammed twice forever though |
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| 18:22.18 | Lunessa | Station |
| 18:22.22 | Shirik | lua> math.huge == math.huge * 2 |
| 18:22.22 | lua_bot | Shirik: true |
| 18:22.23 | ralfWORK | Shirik: yes, the "jack of all trades" arguement |
| 18:22.50 | kamdis | cncfanatics, yes but it's only one target |
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| 18:22.53 | Kivin | lua> math.huge |
| 18:22.53 | lua_bot | Kivin: inf |
| 18:22.56 | Kivin | o_o |
| 18:24.53 | ralfWORK | aaaaanyways |
| 18:25.06 | cncfanatics | kamdis: true |
| 18:25.08 | ralfWORK | those trinkets off 2nd to last boss in Magister's Terrace |
| 18:25.11 | ralfWORK | look interesting |
| 18:25.13 | cncfanatics | math.huge ? |
| 18:25.16 | cncfanatics | does that seriously exist ? |
| 18:25.24 | ralfWORK | anyone found how useful they are yet? |
| 18:25.27 | Kivin | I can't imagine what purpose it could possibly serve |
| 18:25.28 | batrick | cncfanatics: yes? |
| 18:25.44 | batrick | it has plenty of purposes |
| 18:25.53 | batrick | --> for i = 1, math.huge do print(i) end |
| 18:25.57 | batrick | :) |
| 18:25.58 | Kivin | ... |
| 18:25.59 | batbot | batrick: @ maximum execution time/memory exceeded |
| 18:26.50 | cncfanatics | if you want to infinite loop at least do it stealthly |
| 18:27.19 | cncfanatics | local i loopto = 5 / (divider or 0); for i = 1, loopto do print(i) end |
| 18:27.41 | batrick | it lets you increment i forever basically |
| 18:27.48 | batrick | and is takes less lines of code |
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| 18:31.10 | MySpoons2Big | I seem to be having a little problem. Upon calling the function "GuildControlSaveRank(GuildControlGetRankName(i))" (where "i" is any of my guild ranks) the amount of gold a player of that rank can withdraw from the guild bank is suddenly multiplied by 10000. |
| 18:31.47 | sacarasc | sure it's not in copper? |
| 18:31.49 | batrick | that's probably right |
| 18:31.57 | ralfWORK | the answer is simple, divide by 10000! |
| 18:32.03 | batrick | you gave it a amount in gold, and it changes it to the amount in copper |
| 18:33.05 | MySpoons2Big | I never called "GetGuildBankWithdrawLimit" or "SetGuildBankWithdrawLimit". |
| 18:33.33 | MySpoons2Big | It's not even my intention to modify how much they can withdraw. It just modifies that value on its own. |
| 18:34.00 | batrick | perhaps that's the default? |
| 18:34.37 | art3mis | oh appearantly the lag and server choking results in "rollbacks" of sorts and can be used to dupe items and gold via guild bank |
| 18:34.37 | MySpoons2Big | I just created a new rank for my guild to test that and the new rank defaulted to 0 gold. |
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| 18:35.40 | batrick | lua> pairs(_G) |
| 18:35.40 | lua_bot | batrick: function: 0x6290b0, table: 0x6286b0, nil |
| 18:36.09 | MySpoons2Big | art3mis: ? |
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| 18:36.24 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o Seerah] by ChanServ |
| 18:36.41 | cncfanatics | lua> for name in pairs(_G) do print(name) end |
| 18:36.42 | lua_bot | cncfanatics: tostring, os, getfenv, pairs, assert, tonumber, strsplit, load, _G, coroutine, loadstring, pp, prettyprint, string, xpcall, _VERSION, strtrim, table, strjoin, strconcat, next, ipairs, rawequal, collectgarbage, rawset, print, math, pcall, unpack, type, select, rawget, setfenv, error |
| 18:37.12 | cncfanatics | ain't that a very scarce amount of funcs ? |
| 18:37.23 | Shirik | not really |
| 18:37.24 | batrick | it's not all of them |
| 18:37.26 | Shirik | baselib is pretty small |
| 18:37.30 | Shirik | and then some were taken out |
| 18:37.35 | batrick | it's missing getmetatable and setmetatable |
| 18:37.47 | batrick | which makes me a sad panda |
| 18:37.59 | cncfanatics | that bot has more funcs then that |
| 18:38.02 | Kaso | "prettyprint" ? |
| 18:38.03 | Shirik | lua> setmetatable |
| 18:38.03 | lua_bot | Shirik: nil |
| 18:38.17 | cncfanatics | lua> prettyprint("I'm pretty"); |
| 18:38.18 | lua_bot | cncfanatics: "I'm pretty" |
| 18:38.30 | batrick | i don't know why i find that hilarious |
| 18:38.43 | Kaso | whats the difference? |
| 18:38.46 | cncfanatics | lua> shittyprint = prettyprint |
| 18:38.46 | lua_bot | cncfanatics: No output |
| 18:38.49 | cncfanatics | the quotes |
| 18:38.53 | [Liquidor] | lua> for name in pairs(_G) do prettyprint(name) end |
| 18:38.53 | Kaso | ah |
| 18:38.53 | lua_bot | [Liquidor]: "tostring", "os", "getfenv", "pairs", "assert", "tonumber", "strsplit", "load", "_G", "coroutine", "loadstring", "pp", "prettyprint", "string", "xpcall", "_VERSION", "strtrim", "table", "strjoin", "strconcat", "next", "ipairs", "rawequal", "collectgarbage", "rawset", "print", "math", "pcall", "unpac... (result truncated) |
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| 18:40.21 | cncfanatics | lua> print(tinsert); |
| 18:40.22 | lua_bot | cncfanatics: nil |
| 18:41.21 | cncfanatics | lua>print("Pkekyo| is anoying"); |
| 18:41.21 | lua_bot | cncfanatics: Pkekyo| is anoying |
| 18:42.22 | Crysli | cncfanatics: You know, it's spelled "annoying" |
| 18:42.35 | cncfanatics | doesn't matter |
| 18:42.39 | Crysli | ^^ |
| 18:44.31 | Cide | spelt |
| 18:44.33 | Cide | oh snap |
| 18:45.26 | ralfWORK | :P |
| 18:47.26 | sysrage | oh snap. it's spelled |
| 18:47.32 | sysrage | spelt is a wheat |
| 18:47.43 | art3mis | spelt is a valid replacement for spelled |
| 18:47.50 | art3mis | ~dict spelt |
| 18:48.04 | art3mis | neat |
| 18:48.06 | sysrage | valid to who? |
| 18:48.13 | art3mis | people that speak english |
| 18:48.16 | ralfWORK | in what language? |
| 18:48.18 | art3mis | and not american ;P |
| 18:48.22 | sysrage | not proper english |
| 18:48.23 | art3mis | ~dict spelt 1 |
| 18:49.10 | art3mis | Pronunciation: |
| 18:49.10 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:49.11 | art3mis | chiefly British past and past participle of spell |
| 18:49.19 | art3mis | suck it whorebag ;P |
| 18:49.28 | sysrage | pfft |
| 18:49.31 | sysrage | brits ftl |
| 18:49.33 | sysrage | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:49.37 | ralfWORK | yea pretty much |
| 18:49.38 | art3mis | they sorta made english |
| 18:49.38 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 18:49.40 | art3mis | so,.... |
| 18:50.02 | Mr_Rabies3 | well |
| 18:50.11 | ralfWORK | so what? |
| 18:50.25 | Mr_Rabies3 | it depends on when it was popularized |
| 18:51.25 | art3mis | you'd think that the "english" would know more about valid words in english ;P |
| 18:51.29 | Mr_Rabies3 | the US uses a version of English from the 1600s-1700s, the language branched considerably between that time and the late 1800s and early 1900s in both countries |
| 18:51.42 | art3mis | hence why i said english not american |
| 18:52.01 | art3mis | americans use the word ain't |
| 18:52.06 | art3mis | instead of isn't |
| 18:52.15 | Mr_Rabies3 | not really |
| 18:52.24 | art3mis | so they're far from a valid source for english ;P |
| 18:52.28 | kd3 | ain't is an acceptable word in formal usage |
| 18:52.28 | Mr_Rabies3 | that's a regional thing and not even really common regionally |
| 18:52.36 | kd3 | is/is/is not/ |
| 18:52.39 | kd3 | bah |
| 18:53.10 | kamdis | Most American's don't say ain't unless they are joking. |
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| 18:53.20 | Mr_Rabies3 | hell |
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| 18:53.26 | Mr_Rabies3 | i'm from rural georgia and i don't say "aint" |
| 18:53.33 | kd3 | ^ |
| 18:53.45 | Mr_Rabies3 | my mother is from Chicago |
| 18:53.49 | Mr_Rabies3 | and she does |
| 18:53.53 | art3mis | you also dont like blacks, date your cousins and have 14 trucks and cars on the "lawn" of your trailer-home |
| 18:53.55 | Mr_Rabies3 | my father is from alabama and he does |
| 18:54.12 | Mr_Rabies3 | oh god |
| 18:54.16 | Mr_Rabies3 | that was bad timing for that |
| 18:54.25 | Mr_Rabies3 | art3mis>you also dont like blacks, date your cousins and have 14 trucks and cars on the "lawn" of your trailer-home |
| 18:54.27 | Mr_Rabies3 | <Mr_Rabies3>my father is from alabama and he does |
| 18:54.31 | art3mis | hahahah |
| 18:54.31 | ralfWORK | art3mis: but... my wife is black, I don't have a cousin or a truck or a lawn ;( |
| 18:54.37 | Lunessa | :| |
| 18:54.39 | Mr_Rabies3 | oh god the formatting i hate you chatzilla |
| 18:54.54 | art3mis | ralfWORK: you live in the projects then? |
| 18:55.06 | ralfWORK | I'm homeless |
| 18:55.11 | ralfWORK | I have a laptop and wi-fi |
| 18:55.14 | ralfWORK | to IRC from all day |
| 18:55.24 | art3mis | maytag box #15 ? |
| 18:55.29 | Mr_Rabies3 | just a nifty point of information i noticed while looking some info up |
| 18:55.31 | ralfWORK | projects would be a step up baby! |
| 18:56.01 | Mr_Rabies3 | 61% of atlanta's population is black last i checked :O |
| 18:56.12 | ralfWORK | yea choclate city baby |
| 18:56.23 | art3mis | thats cuz george bush hates blacks |
| 18:56.26 | ralfWORK | kinda a bad place to hate black people :) |
| 18:56.40 | Mr_Rabies3 | yet it remains somehow |
| 18:56.47 | ralfWORK | not exactly |
| 18:57.00 | Mr_Rabies3 | my dad's older and a bit racist :[ |
| 18:57.09 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 18:57.10 | Mr_Rabies3 | he's like, 60 now i think |
| 18:57.18 | ralfWORK | ahh yes well |
| 18:57.20 | Mr_Rabies3 | 61 in april, yeah |
| 18:57.37 | ralfWORK | until that generation is gone, there'll always be that tickling in the back of their head |
| 18:57.42 | ralfWORK | (in my opinion) |
| 18:57.45 | MySpoons2Big | Ok, I definitely broke the Guild Control frame. Reloading my UI doesn't even fix it. |
| 18:57.45 | Mr_Rabies3 | he's not like "GOD I HATE NIGGERS" |
| 18:57.49 | Mr_Rabies3 | it's more of a |
| 18:57.58 | Mr_Rabies3 | "i bet that guy in that car's black" |
| 18:58.02 | Mr_Rabies3 | which is almost as bad :/ |
| 18:58.07 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 18:58.15 | Mr_Rabies3 | though he's uncanny at picking them :( |
| 18:58.24 | Mr_Rabies3 | he's got about a 90% success rate |
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| 18:58.35 | ralfWORK | there's a difference between identifying a stereotype |
| 18:58.39 | ralfWORK | and being racist |
| 18:58.55 | ralfWORK | the stereotypes exist |
| 18:59.07 | ralfWORK | all stereotypes exist for some reason |
| 18:59.09 | Mr_Rabies3 | he also watched fox news and devours the bullshit like it's the nectar of the gods |
| 19:00.09 | ralfWORK | I spend plenty of time on fox news |
| 19:00.12 | Lunessa | So, anyone working on new combat log stuff for 2.4? |
| 19:00.18 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 19:00.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: I've been meaning to... |
| 19:00.30 | ScytheBlade1 | But I'm leveling my priest atm >_> |
| 19:00.33 | kd3 | antiarc's written a little testcase mod from what I've heard. DBM's got a beta push out |
| 19:00.49 | Mr_Rabies3 | i'm a classic conservative with a bit of a libertarian lean and fox news drives me batty :( |
| 19:00.59 | ralfWORK | Mr_Rabies3: interesting |
| 19:01.02 | kd3 | copies are up this very instant if people need to get in the queue |
| 19:01.09 | Lunessa | I'm excited about the changes, but I'm nervous that a lot of my tools will break. |
| 19:01.17 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: I think according to the stickies, the queue will ALWAYS be open now |
| 19:01.36 | ralfWORK | I'm about as stereotypicaly libertarian as it gets. fox is ok with me. Then again so is NPR (mostly) |
| 19:01.41 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4665317027&sid=1 |
| 19:01.42 | kd3 | it wasn't 30 minutes ago iirc. |
| 19:01.55 | Mr_Rabies3 | to be fair so does cnn and most every other news network, it's all alarmist bullshit |
| 19:02.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm. Interesting sticky. |
| 19:02.07 | Mr_Rabies3 | and npr's just pretentious and boring :( |
| 19:02.26 | ScytheBlade1 | "but players may still visit ... at any time to add their character(s) to the queue." |
| 19:02.36 | kd3 | go look at bornakk's other sticky |
| 19:02.45 | ralfWORK | Mr_Rabies3: ah, you're not one of the "media is biased" people, you're a "media is bullshit" person instead? |
| 19:02.49 | kd3 | we can't get on to the euro or the korean realms right now either |
| 19:02.50 | ralfWORK | I could agree with that |
| 19:02.55 | ralfWORK | mostly sensationalism |
| 19:03.03 | Mr_Rabies3 | yeah that's the word i was looking for |
| 19:03.08 | Mr_Rabies3 | i couldn't find it |
| 19:03.11 | Mr_Rabies3 | it was on the tip of my tongue |
| 19:03.15 | ralfWORK | :) |
| 19:03.26 | Mr_Rabies3 | i mean, even bbc is heading that way now |
| 19:03.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, I've noticed |
| 19:03.37 | Mr_Rabies3 | so i have to filter through digg and various forums and hope i get a full picture |
| 19:03.55 | ralfWORK | Mr_Rabies3: yea, exactly |
| 19:04.09 | ralfWORK | but then again, people are mostly stupid |
| 19:04.16 | ralfWORK | so what do you expect news outlets to cater to? |
| 19:05.55 | Mr_Rabies3 | but man |
| 19:05.55 | Mr_Rabies3 | fox really does pander to its audience |
| 19:05.56 | Mr_Rabies3 | it's smart business, but not good news |
| 19:05.56 | Mr_Rabies3 | i know, people don't like to think :( |
| 19:05.56 | Mr_Rabies3 | i can't fully blame them though, i'd rather be dumb and happy than smart and unhappy |
| 19:05.58 | Mr_Rabies3 | you may not fulfill your life's potential if you're dumb and happy but at least you think you did :[ |
| 19:06.23 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 19:06.39 | Mr_Rabies3 | oh geez i just made a footbane |
| 19:06.49 | Mr_Rabies3 | out of a staple |
| 19:06.53 | Mr_Rabies3 | it's like a mini-caltrop |
| 19:07.03 | ralfWORK | huh? |
| 19:07.13 | Mr_Rabies3 | it's got a strong base |
| 19:07.15 | Mr_Rabies3 | so |
| 19:07.43 | Mr_Rabies3 | if you step on it it won't bend |
| 19:07.54 | Mr_Rabies3 | it'll just poke in and go far :( |
| 19:08.01 | ralfWORK | hahahahah ok |
| 19:08.05 | Mr_Rabies3 | i'm going to throw that away before i wind up needing a tetanus shot |
| 19:08.11 | Crysli | I'm watching clips from different animes. What is the deal with licking your blade when you fight? |
| 19:08.12 | ralfWORK | yes, tetanus bad |
| 19:08.13 | Mr_Rabies3 | i'm bored at work ok |
| 19:08.25 | ralfWORK | Crysli: that's so you know who the bag guy is |
| 19:08.31 | Crysli | Oh. |
| 19:08.32 | Mr_Rabies3 | it's freudian Crysli |
| 19:08.47 | Crysli | Mr_Rabies3 - I was thinking the same thing |
| 19:09.13 | ralfWORK | well that's obvious |
| 19:09.16 | zenzelezz | I wish people... well, my guildies didn't find it so freaking hard to stay alive at Archimonde; I completely hate the "mountain" tactic |
| 19:09.20 | ralfWORK | but only the bad guys d oit |
| 19:09.28 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: that thread on the test forums is AWESOME |
| 19:09.47 | kd3 | oh yeah |
| 19:10.17 | ScytheBlade1 | I think I'm going to have to take a break before I bust out the actual low-level alts |
| 19:10.41 | Lopeppeppy | I just have to bust something out. *laugh* |
| 19:10.51 | Crysli | What thread? |
| 19:11.02 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4493713877&postId=46649388808&sid=1#189 |
| 19:11.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, afk shower |
| 19:12.15 | art3mis | http://gizmodo.com/356366/indiana-jones-iv-trailer-makes-us-wet-our-pants |
| 19:12.19 | art3mis | wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
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| 19:12.40 | art3mis | shai lebouef or however has scored some nice movie roles |
| 19:12.49 | art3mis | transformers and now indian jones ! |
| 19:12.52 | art3mis | indiana |
| 19:13.07 | ralfWORK | who's the chick? |
| 19:13.20 | art3mis | with the black hair? |
| 19:13.23 | art3mis | cate blanchett |
| 19:13.29 | ralfWORK | hmm k |
| 19:13.50 | Mallabus | lol @ indian jones :) sounds like a cheap bollywood remake |
| 19:13.58 | art3mis | heh |
| 19:14.01 | kamdis | Shia LaBeouf, fwiw |
| 19:14.05 | art3mis | did you see craig fergeuson last night? |
| 19:14.16 | kamdis | He's the one good thing that came out of Project Greenlight |
| 19:14.28 | art3mis | they had a indian version of thriller on there |
| 19:14.35 | art3mis | he was long before that kam |
| 19:14.40 | art3mis | he was a Disney channel kid |
| 19:15.02 | art3mis | Holes was his big break as it were |
| 19:15.24 | kamdis | I know he was out there before that |
| 19:15.36 | kamdis | But he didn't get "star" roles before that, not in big Hollywood stuff |
| 19:16.02 | kamdis | The Weinsteins "made" him, imo. |
| 19:17.49 | art3mis | "Even Stevens" .... Louis Stevens / ... (66 episodes, 1999-2003) |
| 19:17.52 | art3mis | on disney |
| 19:18.11 | kamdis | Meh |
| 19:18.18 | art3mis | that to me sorta got him started and then he made holes for disney and and got him on the big screen |
| 19:18.31 | art3mis | from that point forward he had charlies angels i robot etc |
| 19:18.34 | Cairenn|afk | Happy Anniversary Bela|work & wife! |
| 19:19.03 | Funkeh` | can some cool U.S. dude post on the 2.4 post and ask zooty to give us spellID's on UnitDebuff and UnitBuff |
| 19:19.05 | Crysli | Lunessa: We let it slip. |
| 19:19.10 | art3mis | well with her chest its more of shock if they're contained ;P |
| 19:19.19 | Funkeh` | or gal! /hugs Cairenn|afk |
| 19:19.24 | Lopeppeppy | art3mis! Be a gentleman or I'll collage you. |
| 19:19.37 | Crysli | Even Stevens. I loved that show :D |
| 19:20.40 | Cairenn|afk | look what my hubby & daughter got me for Valentine's Day! He's so adorable! http://www.swarovski.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/SCO-Web_CA-Site/en_US/-/CAD/SW_Static-PopupBestview?ProductSKU=905386&ProductName=With+You |
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| 19:21.11 | ralfWORK | wow. healer/tank just told me he's taking a break |
| 19:21.24 | ralfWORK | "I've been putting something off for 7 years" |
| 19:21.34 | sacarasc | heh |
| 19:21.41 | Crysli | ralfWORK: He had to go to the bathroom. |
| 19:21.48 | ralfWORK | Crysli: lol nice |
| 19:21.49 | Crysli | Wait... Just read the seven years part |
| 19:22.00 | Crysli | Makes it even better :D |
| 19:22.10 | ralfWORK | by "break" I mean "won't be playing for months" not "brb bio" |
| 19:22.17 | Crysli | Oh. |
| 19:22.22 | Lunessa | Cairenn|afk: Awwww |
| 19:22.35 | Crysli | Well if he's been holding it for seven years it's got to take months. |
| 19:22.36 | art3mis | Lopeppeppy: i was i said chest instead of gorgeous and large fun bags ;P |
| 19:22.47 | Mr_Rabies3 | argh |
| 19:22.47 | Mr_Rabies3 | this internet is terrible |
| 19:22.47 | Mr_Rabies3 | i hate not having any broadband options |
| 19:22.48 | Mr_Rabies3 | we have HughesNet Satellite internet |
| 19:22.50 | Mr_Rabies3 | and oh lawd |
| 19:22.56 | Mr_Rabies3 | he's going to murder his wife |
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| 19:25.08 | ralfWORK | I guess I know what classes to recruit now ;P |
| 19:25.39 | Lopeppeppy | art3mis, you go there and you will be on the collage, no mistaking. |
| 19:26.01 | Cairenn|afk | Funkeh`: posted |
| 19:26.02 | art3mis | oh come now |
| 19:26.08 | art3mis | whats the fun in that ;P |
| 19:26.41 | art3mis | besides if i dont treat you like a gorgeous sexy object and a wonderful person how will you ever get an exorbent self esteem? |
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| 19:27.16 | Lunessa | Wait, Peppy's making a collage? |
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| 19:28.45 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, you can also volunteer to be on it. I don't mind, I have a big blank wall in my living room. |
| 19:29.32 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: Is it going to be like "St. Valentine's Day Massacre - staring IRC Bandits" ? |
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| 19:31.11 | art3mis | actually i'd find that a touch creepy if yuo plastered yer wall with our pics ;P |
| 19:31.25 | Lopeppeppy | I surely would not ever be doing THAT. Icky. |
| 19:32.04 | ralfWORK | if you do, you have to cut the eyes out |
| 19:32.23 | Lunessa | And paint in lots of red. |
| 19:34.27 | Crysli | or black. |
| 19:34.41 | ralfWORK | cut out anyone else in the pics too |
| 19:34.46 | ralfWORK | in case it was a group shot or whatever |
| 19:34.56 | Crysli | Do a group shot and cut everyone out. |
| 19:35.10 | Crysli | leaving only the background. |
| 19:35.27 | ralfWORK | :D |
| 19:35.38 | Lopeppeppy | I'd rather put paint on my cat and let her walk on the walls. |
| 19:35.56 | Crysli | Put paint on Neo from the Matrix and let him walk on the walls. |
| 19:36.20 | art3mis | Lopeppeppy: have yous een open season? |
| 19:36.32 | ralfWORK | rofl wtf |
| 19:36.45 | Lopeppeppy | Nope, art3mis. |
| 19:36.54 | art3mis | i just had an imagine from that movie where he's throwing the bunnies at the window to get the bears attention |
| 19:37.11 | art3mis | only covered with paint and you're throwing them at the wall |
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| 19:38.00 | Lopeppeppy | I would never throw a bunny. They hop well enough on their own. |
| 19:38.42 | art3mis | uits hilarious |
| 19:39.01 | art3mis | he throws them and they hit the window and make a squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek sound as they slide down |
| 19:39.48 | ralfWORK | hehehe |
| 19:39.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm, so, I can do this in MSSQL, MySQL, or even Postgres |
| 19:42.05 | art3mis | its totally one of the single best parts of that movie |
| 19:42.05 | Crysli | A friend of mine tricked me into watching Bleach. It's hilarious. |
| 19:42.14 | art3mis | Lopeppeppy: you should rent it |
| 19:42.16 | ralfWORK | the anime? |
| 19:42.19 | art3mis | bleach is odd |
| 19:42.27 | art3mis | the first seasons was alright and had a story |
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| 19:42.46 | art3mis | the second just seemed a way to have lots of "in my head dialogue" and fight scenes |
| 19:42.52 | ralfWORK | it's pretty cool |
| 19:43.03 | ralfWORK | I hope you're not watching the adult swim BS though |
| 19:43.27 | Crysli | It's funny. "I'm in huge trouble now. I better develop some insane power to equal my enemy!" |
| 19:43.35 | Crysli | adult swim? |
| 19:43.53 | ralfWORK | Crysli: you're talking about the anime, correct? |
| 19:43.58 | Crysli | Affirmative |
| 19:44.22 | ralfWORK | ya, so you watching it on Adult swim or are you downloading the jap version? |
| 19:44.32 | art3mis | "hell never do it theres not enough time!" "oh i totally will im awesome remember?!" |
| 19:44.47 | art3mis | that abuot sums up bleach |
| 19:44.58 | Crysli | Watching the japanese version. |
| 19:45.12 | ralfWORK | I just ask because I'm not recalling any of this dialogue :P |
| 19:45.26 | art3mis | they're called paraphased summations ;P |
| 19:45.36 | ralfWORK | right, right |
| 19:45.42 | art3mis | and i cant right kangi in this font ;P |
| 19:45.48 | ralfWORK | lol |
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| 19:46.55 | ralfWORK | it makes me sad that I need to arena for my PVE mace :( |
| 19:47.28 | art3mis | ? |
| 19:48.24 | ralfWORK | I don't wanna PVP to get weapons used for PVE |
| 19:48.37 | Crysli | Man, the dialogue in this scene is epic. "I will kill you." "You are the one who will die." |
| 19:48.58 | ScytheBlade1 | ... lol |
| 19:49.13 | ralfWORK | Crysli: they are warriors, do you expect them to be really smart? ;) |
| 19:49.18 | Crysli | In other words. "Die!" "No u" |
| 19:49.23 | ralfWORK | hahahaahaha |
| 19:49.42 | ScytheBlade1 | USE root; |
| 19:49.44 | ScytheBlade1 | wtf am I on? |
| 19:49.52 | ralfWORK | is that... SQL? |
| 19:49.54 | ralfWORK | or... uhm |
| 19:49.58 | ScytheBlade1 | I just logged in as root, why do I need to USE it? |
| 19:49.59 | ralfWORK | wow yea what are you smoking? |
| 19:50.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Ding ding ding |
| 19:50.03 | ScytheBlade1 | I have no idea |
| 19:50.07 | ralfWORK | lol |
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| 19:54.17 | oreth | do i have the ability to "reinclude" a file in wow-lua? |
| 19:54.58 | Cairenn|afk | passing computer over to kiddo (since hers is currently non-functional), so if you really need me for something urgent, I'm here, but you'll have to ping me |
| 19:55.17 | Cairenn|afk | if it isn't urgent, please wait |
| 19:55.20 | pastamancer | oreth: can you be more specific |
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| 19:59.03 | Crysli | CSS is awesome. I just found out that I can apply :hover to other tags than <a> :D |
| 19:59.14 | ralfWORK | not in IE :( |
| 19:59.54 | Crysli | Yeah, I found out. |
| 20:00.07 | ralfWORK | but it's still awesome :) |
| 20:00.10 | Lunessa | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/02/14/funny-pictures-i-you/ - oh my |
| 20:00.12 | ralfWORK | CSS is awesome |
| 20:00.19 | ralfWORK | web browsers are not |
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| 20:00.26 | Crysli | True. |
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| 20:00.53 | Crysli | Lunessa: That's... Special. |
| 20:00.57 | ralfWORK | it's kinda horrible |
| 20:01.09 | Lunessa | I'm laughing very hard. |
| 20:01.13 | ralfWORK | lol |
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| 20:01.27 | haste | god.. the comments on that site |
| 20:01.33 | haste | makes me want to stab myself |
| 20:01.42 | Crysli | ralkWORK: What I find really annoying is the box model roblem. |
| 20:01.42 | ralfWORK | HAHAHAHAHA |
| 20:01.59 | ralfWORK | Crysli: yes, that's extremely annoying |
| 20:02.39 | oreth | ok, let me ask something different |
| 20:03.00 | oreth | can I build a DLL in C++ and call it from lua? |
| 20:03.03 | oreth | er.. WoW lua |
| 20:03.11 | pastamancer | no |
| 20:03.17 | nevcairiel | no |
| 20:03.18 | oreth | ok |
| 20:03.24 | pastamancer | you can't get outside of the lua sandbox |
| 20:03.50 | oreth | what do you mean "sandbox" ? |
| 20:04.07 | pastamancer | like a java jvm |
| 20:05.23 | oreth | ahh |
| 20:05.24 | oreth | ok |
| 20:05.27 | oreth | that makes sense |
| 20:05.57 | oreth | can I include other lua files in my code? |
| 20:06.42 | oreth | or does all my code have to sit in one Lua file? |
| 20:07.00 | Maul | no, you can have as many as you want, just need to list them all in the .toc |
| 20:07.08 | oreth | ahh |
| 20:07.30 | oreth | That means the question I was leading up to is already answered with a resounding "NO" |
| 20:07.38 | oreth | however, i will ask it anyway |
| 20:07.47 | pastamancer | also, all of your addons and the blizzard interface share the same global namespace |
| 20:07.58 | oreth | In python, to include a file: import Library |
| 20:08.07 | oreth | later, if you want to reload it for somereason |
| 20:08.13 | oreth | reimport Library |
| 20:08.27 | oreth | I'm going to just assume that, that kind of operation is not supported/allowed |
| 20:08.27 | Maul | all the lua file i/o functions are turned off in wow lua |
| 20:08.31 | pastamancer | you have to reload your interface to re-evaluate any lua file |
| 20:08.49 | oreth | balls |
| 20:08.55 | oreth | but I understand why |
| 20:09.13 | Maul | yeah, hence the term "sandboxed" =) |
| 20:10.53 | art3mis | www.sandboxie.com |
| 20:12.17 | oreth | ubuntu :P |
| 20:16.40 | Crysli | korv :D |
| 20:19.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Interesting fact: the saved combat log has a variable number of columns, despite commonly terminating lines with multiple nils |
| 20:20.38 | mikma | what's the current status, will the epic mount prices get lowered to 2k? |
| 20:20.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Nope. |
| 20:20.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Still 5k on the PTR |
| 20:21.22 | mikma | ScytheBlade1: thanks |
| 20:21.31 | nevcairiel | i would be surprised if they ever lowered that |
| 20:21.38 | nevcairiel | and i would want a refund |
| 20:23.52 | foxlit | Did they nerf RoS? |
| 20:24.00 | foxlit | It no longer seems to use Seethe :/ |
| 20:26.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Man, looking back at my old combat log code, I'm kinda sad to see it go |
| 20:26.32 | ScytheBlade1 | This was actually good stuff |
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| 20:27.14 | ScytheBlade1 | http://wowi.pastey.net/82193 |
| 20:31.01 | cncfanatics | what was the url to see the current framexml code again ? |
| 20:31.02 | cncfanatics | forgot :( |
| 20:31.09 | cncfanatics | oh, purl to the rescue |
| 20:31.12 | cncfanatics | ~framexml |
| 20:31.13 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wdnaddons.com/ |
| 20:38.23 | Crysli | ABF is actually a pretty good font for unitframes. |
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| 20:39.12 | cncfanatics | anyone around thats good with actionbutton attributes ? |
| 20:39.15 | cncfanatics | its been a while for me |
| 20:39.30 | foxlit | type=stuff;stuff=type |
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| 20:39.58 | foxlit | ~asktoask |
| 20:39.59 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 20:40.03 | cncfanatics | yea yea I know |
| 20:40.09 | cncfanatics | thing is I don't have only one question but plenty :p |
| 20:40.12 | cncfanatics | guess I'll start with the first one |
| 20:40.25 | cncfanatics | is statemap-state = $input needed when using the new (macro-like) state driver stuff ? |
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| 20:41.14 | bleeter | man, I wonder what Cide did to break the PTR char copy system.. he's done a pretty good job on it ;) |
| 20:42.07 | Cide | - enabled = true; |
| 20:42.10 | Cide | + enabled = false; |
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| 20:44.14 | bleeter | ooh, you sneaky bastard Cide, that'll stump Hortus for weeks! |
| 20:45.24 | Crysli | What'd Cide do? |
| 20:45.38 | bleeter | break the PTR char copy |
| 20:45.56 | Crysli | Why? |
| 20:46.05 | bleeter | why not? (at a guess) |
| 20:46.12 | Crysli | Lol. |
| 20:46.21 | bleeter | he has a reputation to uphold of breaking everything else |
| 20:46.57 | Crysli | That's a pretty solid reason. |
| 20:48.09 | Bela|work | mm, both my chars finally got copied |
| 20:48.11 | Bela|work | huzzah |
| 20:50.31 | Lunessa | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4665317893&sid=1 |
| 20:52.25 | ScytheBlade1 | buhaha @ The Power Behind the Scenes |
| 20:53.55 | Dezzimal | Maybe someone can help me find this, but I remember this really well laid out site that had profession leveling guides along with estimated cost data pulled from wowhead |
| 20:54.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Mr. Micless is really good too |
| 20:54.22 | Dezzimal | its not coming up in google for any of the searches I've tried :( |
| 20:55.54 | Dezzimal | found a link to it in the wow forums of all things...lord knows how easy it is to find anything on there |
| 20:55.55 | Dezzimal | http://www.lootables.com/?guide=Enchanting&page=15 |
| 20:56.30 | cladhaire | shivan69 |
| 20:56.36 | cladhaire | in the butt |
| 20:56.49 | cladhaire | good thing that's the only site i use that password on :P |
| 20:57.11 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 20:57.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: that thread is awesome |
| 20:58.04 | Lunessa | Someone here at work linked it to me. I never go to general. LAWL |
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| 20:58.58 | ScytheBlade1 | I've been indirectly (and directly in some cases) accused of killing guilds by leaving, and as "The Power Behind The Scenes" - that thread is eppic |
| 20:59.45 | ScytheBlade1 | s/eppic/epic/ |
| 21:01.57 | Lunessa | Legendary, it drips orange. |
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| 21:07.19 | MySpoons2Big | Lunessa: Great thread. |
| 21:07.33 | Lunessa | I wish I'd written it. |
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| 21:10.38 | Dezzimal | bulkmail still chokes on battleground marks :( |
| 21:12.15 | art3mis | http://www.rlslog.net/fbi-warns-before-valentine-storm-virus/ |
| 21:18.31 | Syzgyn | morning all |
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| 21:24.34 | cog|work | it's a Maul! |
| 21:27.15 | testleK | is there some type of 'is item soulbound' API? I can't seem to locate one on wowwiki... |
| 21:27.38 | Shirik | not really |
| 21:27.40 | Shirik | process the tooltip |
| 21:27.55 | testleK | arg thats what I thought I was going to have to do :/ ty |
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| 21:30.41 | cog|work | testleK: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2765967767 ;) |
| 21:31.02 | cog|work | (covered by "anything and everything that exists in tooltips" :P ) |
| 21:34.44 | Maul | Heya Cog =) |
| 21:37.55 | testleK | aye lol |
| 21:38.19 | testleK | good thread didn't see that one when looking around :P |
| 21:38.39 | cog|work | it's old... |
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| 21:38.45 | cog|work | and could use some love... |
| 21:39.51 | Lunessa | It's Valentine's Day... everyone could use some love. |
| 21:40.24 | ScytheBlade1 | I somehow doubt there are only 29 total events |
| 21:40.33 | ScytheBlade1 | (Recorded in the combat lot) |
| 21:40.34 | ScytheBlade1 | *log |
| 21:41.35 | Cide | read the code? |
| 21:41.46 | ScytheBlade1 | The C code? |
| 21:41.52 | Cide | lua? |
| 21:41.55 | ScytheBlade1 | This is the /combatlog data :) |
| 21:42.02 | ScytheBlade1 | http://wowi.pastey.net/82195 |
| 21:42.08 | Cide | so what? |
| 21:42.14 | Cide | most of the events are handled in the combat log addon |
| 21:42.36 | Bela|work | not sure I understand the problem |
| 21:42.50 | Bela|work | the way those events are handled you don't need a billion events |
| 21:43.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Not really a problem per se, but I'm just not getting what I expected |
| 21:43.09 | Cide | the combat log event still has subevents |
| 21:43.14 | Bela|work | yup |
| 21:43.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Which could be solved by logging more data for hours on end I'd imagine |
| 21:43.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, I know |
| 21:43.48 | Bela|work | ok heading home |
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| 21:53.56 | kd3 | PTR char copy appears to be up this very instant |
| 21:53.59 | kd3 | won't stay up for long |
| 21:54.00 | kd3 | go go go |
| 21:54.54 | Shirik | <3 <3 kd3 |
| 21:55.10 | Shirik | where should I copy |
| 21:55.10 | Shirik | pvp or pve |
| 21:55.14 | kd3 | think most of us are on pve |
| 21:55.15 | ScytheBlade1 | PvE is where most of us are |
| 21:55.21 | Syzgyn | pve is farther progressed too |
| 21:55.27 | Cide | pve is where I am |
| 21:55.29 | Cide | there's your answer |
| 21:55.33 | Syzgyn | :D |
| 21:55.36 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
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| 21:56.05 | Shirik | actually I want to duel you |
| 21:56.08 | Cide | ScytheBlade1: is there any reason you're not just looking at the Blizzard_CombatLog addon source? |
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| 21:56.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide: I just did. :) |
| 21:56.37 | Cide | it tells you everything |
| 21:56.38 | Cide | sec |
| 21:56.41 | ScytheBlade1 | That it does |
| 21:56.56 | Cide | http://pastey.net/82196 |
| 21:57.03 | cncfanatics | bah |
| 21:57.10 | cncfanatics | does anyone know if it matters in what order you put attribute ? |
| 21:57.13 | cncfanatics | for buttons |
| 21:57.22 | cncfanatics | eg, shift-alt-whatever is the same as alt-shift whatever ? |
| 21:57.26 | Cide | no |
| 21:57.29 | Cide | has to be a specific order |
| 21:57.35 | cncfanatics | thats crap |
| 21:57.38 | cncfanatics | same for suffixes ? |
| 21:57.43 | Cide | no idea |
| 21:58.03 | Syzgyn | Hm, stuck on Handshaking on the PTR |
| 21:58.09 | ScytheBlade1 | PTR is down atm |
| 21:58.13 | Syzgyn | oh |
| 21:58.17 | Syzgyn | that explains why then |
| 21:58.25 | Syzgyn | back to live |
| 21:58.27 | cncfanatics | clad|office, clad|sleep, ping |
| 21:58.52 | clad|sleep | whaaa? |
| 21:59.29 | cncfanatics | does order of attributes matter for anything except alt, ctrl & shift ? |
| 21:59.54 | cncfanatics | can I do for example something-friendlytarget-catform and something-catform-friendlytarget ? |
| 22:00.34 | clad|sleep | uhh |
| 22:00.49 | clad|sleep | catform and friendlytarget aren't.. normal |
| 22:00.53 | clad|sleep | so you're doing somethign with states |
| 22:00.55 | clad|sleep | in which case, you'd haev to tell me. |
| 22:01.02 | cncfanatics | well, its work in development |
| 22:01.09 | cncfanatics | just making stuff on paper atm |
| 22:01.31 | clad|sleep | well i don't know |
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| 22:02.09 | cncfanatics | damn |
| 22:02.13 | cncfanatics | I guess I'll find out then |
| 22:02.22 | cncfanatics | thanks anyway clad| |
| 22:02.42 | Crysli | :( I feel sick. |
| 22:02.52 | cncfanatics | g'night everyone |
| 22:02.55 | Syzgyn | night |
| 22:04.03 | Lunessa | ~comfort Crysli |
| 22:04.03 | purl | There, there, Crysli. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
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| 22:07.52 | Crysli | Thanks Lunessa. |
| 22:08.21 | Crysli | I feel much better ow. |
| 22:08.47 | Lunessa | Glad I could help. |
| 22:09.02 | Crysli | ^^ |
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| 22:18.47 | Shirik | dodo |
| 22:18.51 | Shirik | a program wants access to your computer |
| 22:19.01 | Shirik | are you cruel enough to deny? |
| 22:19.25 | Shirik | I think I'm going to modify vista to put a little devil picture there and let the user know he is in control |
| 22:19.29 | Shirik | that programs bend to his will |
| 22:19.37 | Lunessa | Acess DENIED! |
| 22:22.47 | zenzelezz | so I'm running lowbie quests in Darkshore on my 70 human for rep... and I know there are more quests in Auberdine, but the NPCs don't offer me all of them for some reason :-| Any idea why? |
| 22:23.05 | Crysli | Because Auberdine sounds like Aubergine. |
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| 22:23.12 | Crysli | Which is delicious. |
| 22:25.53 | zenzelezz | really annoying, I can't figure out a reason why they wouldn't offer me the quests |
| 22:26.31 | nevcairiel | maybe you need to do some prequest |
| 22:26.41 | nevcairiel | i remember auberdine being like that |
| 22:26.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Hehe. Combat logs stored in a database let you do fun things. |
| 22:27.34 | Lunessa | I am such an ass... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4665488307&sid=1 |
| 22:28.09 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: I thought I did just about all the starting area quests, and finished all the quests they offered me in Auberdine... I could be forgetting something, guess I'll just head off to Ashenvale |
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| 22:32.33 | ScytheBlade1 | That's either a bug in the combat log, or some poor sap critting a cheat death rogue for one entire point of damage. |
| 22:36.56 | Syzgyn | ScytheBlade1: critting for 1 sounds about right. |
| 22:37.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, I've got that in this log, haha |
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| 22:40.55 | ScytheBlade1 | I don't suppose anyone has a 2.4 combat log >2MB in size, do they? |
| 22:41.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Mine is an entire 2MB even, and I want more data :( |
| 22:42.35 | Syzgyn | lemme check |
| 22:42.53 | Syzgyn | blah, wasn't logging it when I was playing, sorry |
| 22:42.56 | Crysli | I just fixed my headphones. =D |
| 22:43.07 | Crysli | Amazing what a piece of tape can do. |
| 22:43.17 | Syzgyn | duct tape? |
| 22:43.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Not a problem, just hoping |
| 22:43.28 | kd3 | duck tape <3 |
| 22:43.35 | Syzgyn | when the ptr |
| 22:43.43 | Syzgyn | ptr's come back up, I'll start logging |
| 22:43.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh |
| 22:44.03 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm just going to install ForeverAFK on my PTR client, log in, and sit around the base, logging |
| 22:44.04 | Crysli | No, regular tape. |
| 22:44.10 | Syzgyn | heh |
| 22:44.38 | Crysli | Was just a loose circuit, så nothing big. |
| 22:45.30 | ScytheBlade1 | CREATE VIEW meleeCrits AS SELECT UUID, logId, timestamp, event, src, srcName, srcFlags, dst, dstName, dstFlags, v1 AS damage FROM logData WHERE v6 = "1" AND event = "SWING_DAMAGE"; |
| 22:45.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Databases are fun! |
| 22:49.07 | Syzgyn | haha |
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| 23:05.05 | Lunessa | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4665526671&sid=1 - post 10 - You could just glare at your wife and say "hunny, I'm going on a raid. got a problem with that? didn't think so..." Yeah. That didn't work for me either. The swelling has gone down though and I'm back on solid foods now. |
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| 23:15.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: lol |
| 23:15.40 | Lunessa | pure gold |
| 23:16.02 | ScytheBlade1 | That is pretty good |
| 23:17.00 | ScytheBlade1 | clad|office: clad|sleep: ping, new patch is out. 34MB of it. |
| 23:20.12 | kd3 | whee, new PTR build. diff in a sec |
| 23:20.25 | kd3 | giant. geez... 34MB |
| 23:20.32 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 23:20.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Read up two lines ;) |
| 23:20.51 | Antiarc | 34mb DIFF?! |
| 23:20.56 | Duman | hmm |
| 23:20.56 | ScytheBlade1 | lol no |
| 23:20.59 | Antiarc | Oh, 34mb patch |
| 23:21.01 | Antiarc | Thank god |
| 23:21.02 | ScytheBlade1 | 34MB total patch download |
| 23:21.06 | Antiarc | I was about to have a serious freakout |
| 23:21.07 | kd3 | I'd be scared to see a 34MB diff |
| 23:21.09 | Duman | haha |
| 23:21.24 | [dRaCo] | try comparing wow 1.0 to 2.0 ;) |
| 23:21.37 | Shirik | rofl |
| 23:21.43 | Shirik | just won an EOTS 23-2000 |
| 23:24.11 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:25.39 | kd3 | oh, bah. don't freeze up on me at 99%. stupid blizz downloader. |
| 23:25.53 | kd3 | patch-4.MPQ, huh |
| 23:26.00 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 23:26.09 | Antiarc | kd3: How do you do the diffs? Have a pipeline set up for it |
| 23:26.10 | Antiarc | ? |
| 23:26.42 | kd3 | I've got a folder full of 0.3.2.xxxx directories pulled using Blizz's tool. just a simple diff -ru folder1 folder 2 > out.diff |
| 23:26.59 | Antiarc | Ah, okay, makes sense! |
| 23:28.24 | kd3 | cripes... another 2k line diff. 93KB |
| 23:28.36 | kd3 | ScytheBlade1, email incoming momentarily |
| 23:29.36 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: sure thing. |
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| 23:29.45 | kd3 | sent |
| 23:29.59 | ckknight | gimmeh diff? |
| 23:30.03 | ckknight | :-P |
| 23:30.11 | ckknight | but yea, I'm excited |
| 23:30.13 | ckknight | are you excited? |
| 23:30.17 | ckknight | let's get excited, people |
| 23:30.17 | kd3 | poke me with an email addy |
| 23:30.22 | zenzelezz | positively rigid |
| 23:30.27 | ckknight | my username at gmail |
| 23:30.54 | sag_ich_nicht | anyone bored enough to unethically do a change to pallypower disabling the retarded "smart" buff code for single/custom blessings? see my post here: http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/3738/#comment_330534 |
| 23:31.00 | Duman | 93k diff? damn |
| 23:31.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Sec and I'll have it posted |
| 23:31.46 | Antiarc | Woot, local diff :D |
| 23:31.47 | ckknight | yays |
| 23:31.48 | kd3 | ckk; sent |
| 23:31.53 | ckknight | oh, yays |
| 23:31.56 | ckknight | <3 to kd3 |
| 23:32.10 | ckknight | lim(x -> 3-) <=x |
| 23:32.33 | Syzgyn | Booo realms not up yet |
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| 23:33.16 | ScytheBlade1 | http://files.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/0.4.0.7897-7923.diff and .gz for download |
| 23:35.01 | Antiarc | Looks like the icons are implemented |
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| 23:35.36 | ckknight | cool |
| 23:35.44 | ckknight | Antiarc: is it just for ScrollingMessageFrame or any FontString? |
| 23:35.57 | Antiarc | I can't tell yet |
| 23:36.11 | ckknight | if it's for any FontString, then DogTag might get some new tags :-P |
| 23:36.57 | Syzgyn | I thought I remembered reading somewhere that it was any FontString |
| 23:38.16 | ScytheBlade1 | It should be any font string, but the UI is limiting the ones you can send (ie, "{star}") to /rw and party chat, iirc |
| 23:38.42 | ckknight | looks like they're getting ready for ruRU |
| 23:38.51 | kd3 | ya, just got to that line |
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| 23:39.14 | Antiarc | Mmm. Nothing really interesting beyond the icon stuff. |
| 23:39.20 | Antiarc | Half the file is interface options |
| 23:39.35 | ScytheBlade1 | All the better, it's pretty buggy right now |
| 23:39.54 | Antiarc | Definitely :) |
| 23:39.57 | ckknight | lol @comments |
| 23:39.57 | ckknight | --Table to reuse! Yay reuse! |
| 23:39.58 | kd3 | huh, an internal bugzilla ID number got exposed |
| 23:40.12 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl @ that comment |
| 23:40.14 | ckknight | kd3: where? |
| 23:40.21 | kd3 | +--Task 21207: Add the ability to link raid icons to other players |
| 23:40.28 | ckknight | hehe |
| 23:40.32 | ckknight | this is odd, though: for i, element in next, displayedElements do |
| 23:40.38 | ckknight | instead of for i, element in pairs(displayedElements) do |
| 23:40.57 | kd3 | whee, they fixed click-casting |
| 23:41.31 | ckknight | lots of stuff to the UIOptionsFrame |
| 23:41.45 | kd3 | which is good. there's been a lot of bitching about it |
| 23:42.42 | ScytheBlade1 | +<!-- Yay. It's a backdrop. --> |
| 23:42.49 | ScytheBlade1 | I lol'd |
| 23:43.28 | ckknight | there's 3 comments with "Yay" in them |
| 23:43.35 | ckknight | Yay for magic numbers |
| 23:43.37 | Kalroth | haha |
| 23:43.41 | Kalroth | Someone is happy :p |
| 23:43.41 | ckknight | Yay reuse |
| 23:43.46 | ScytheBlade1 | I like Zoot. He's at least unique. |
| 23:45.07 | Kalroth | I like happy comments. They often make up for the bugs I have to fix :P |
| 23:45.12 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 23:46.41 | Shirik | I like my evil comments |
| 23:46.44 | Shirik | like the demon one |
| 23:47.04 | Kalroth | :( |
| 23:47.09 | Shirik | wait wait, let me find it |
| 23:47.15 | Kalroth | Evil comments for evil code? |
| 23:47.23 | Kalroth | I bet it's obfuscated Visual Basic! |
| 23:48.04 | Shirik | no it's Java though, evil enough |
| 23:48.19 | Kalroth | Yeah, close enough. :P |
| 23:48.30 | Lunessa | ... some days chicken, some days feathers. |
| 23:48.55 | Kalroth | Lunessa: Which is it today? |
| 23:49.06 | Lunessa | Today... feathers. |
| 23:49.21 | Kalroth | Shiny or dull? |
| 23:49.27 | kamdis | ~hug Lunessa |
| 23:49.28 | purl | ACTION jumps into Lunessa's lap and huggles and *hugs* Lunessa |
| 23:49.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Which means that the feathers have been seperated from the chicken. Which means that I'm eating chicken tonight. |
| 23:49.37 | ScytheBlade1 | I like this. |
| 23:49.46 | Lunessa | Well, right now this call is making me want to kill myself... |
| 23:50.15 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/82200 |
| 23:50.17 | Kalroth | Oh |
| 23:50.19 | Shirik | ^ evil code |
| 23:50.42 | Kalroth | Shirik: It's based on a bad pun though :( |
| 23:50.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh right |
| 23:50.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah you've shown us that before |
| 23:50.51 | Shirik | :( |
| 23:50.59 | Kalroth | I like the truckin' line though! |
| 23:51.09 | ScytheBlade1 | lol yeah |
| 23:51.14 | Kalroth | Coooonvoooy |
| 23:51.32 | Lunessa | ~hug kamdis |
| 23:51.32 | purl | ACTION sneaks up on kamdis and suddenly hugs kamdis tightly |
| 23:52.41 | Shirik | That is very close to my try without a catch |
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