| 00:00.27 | Keias | I'll write that one down, to salvage my ego. |
| 00:03.39 | Crysli | :( |
| 00:04.23 | Crysli | I just deleted my Quartz settings only to discover that it was Visor2 messing the cast bar up. |
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| 00:05.51 | Tem | damnit! |
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| 00:06.04 | Tem | this quest mob which is hard to find and tough to kill is bugging |
| 00:06.08 | Tem | so I can't loot him |
| 00:06.12 | Industrial | http://myanimelist.net/animelist/Industrial |
| 00:06.14 | Industrial | need moar |
| 00:06.29 | dylanm | Or less. |
| 00:06.49 | Industrial | moar. definately. |
| 00:07.09 | Industrial | I can't un-see things dylanm |
| 00:07.26 | Industrial | maybe lairtsudnI can |
| 00:07.31 | Crysli | Did you watch the Entire Dragon Ball Z anime? |
| 00:07.41 | Industrial | yes |
| 00:07.49 | Crysli | and entire needed that capital E. :) |
| 00:07.54 | Crysli | Good lord |
| 00:07.55 | Industrial | on tv actually |
| 00:08.00 | Industrial | when I was a kid |
| 00:08.03 | Industrial | up until SSJ5 |
| 00:08.04 | Industrial | :D |
| 00:08.04 | Crysli | Weren't you bored to death? |
| 00:08.18 | Industrial | no I was flying around the house going kamehameha |
| 00:08.49 | Keias | I used to fly around as batman instead :( |
| 00:08.52 | Crysli | It's all "I need to power up my energy for the next two episodes to me and one of my several mortal enemies can fight for ten episodes" |
| 00:08.52 | Keias | Using a towel as a cape |
| 00:09.00 | Crysli | I was Superman. |
| 00:09.15 | Industrial | goku would so pwn either. |
| 00:09.21 | Industrial | anyway... |
| 00:09.24 | Keias | should watch Monster |
| 00:09.26 | Keias | (the anime) |
| 00:09.51 | Crysli | You should just watch monsters in general. |
| 00:09.57 | Crysli | Could be interesting. |
| 00:10.43 | Industrial | http://torrentz.com/3b7e04863cdafecb57e5f2b6348d5c0edb9f299f |
| 00:10.43 | Industrial | \o/ |
| 00:17.53 | kd3 | and the queue's full |
| 00:17.54 | kd3 | heh |
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| 00:18.43 | Industrial | meh its on 24/7 so its always full |
| 00:18.44 | Industrial | :p |
| 00:18.49 | Industrial | MOAR |
| 00:18.52 | Industrial | NOMNOMNOMNOM |
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| 00:19.05 | cladhaire | is the actual ptr up |
| 00:19.07 | cladhaire | or no? |
| 00:19.14 | kd3 | nah |
| 00:19.41 | kd3 | surprised someone's at the office right now, tbqh. since they didn't enable char copies yesterday I wasn't expecting anything til monday |
| 00:19.45 | Keias | That'd be it, Industrial |
| 00:19.54 | Keias | My favorite series by far. Then again, I'm not very big on anime. |
| 00:19.59 | cladhaire | good |
| 00:20.02 | cladhaire | then i can't run my api compare |
| 00:20.04 | cladhaire | which means i can sleep |
| 00:20.30 | Lukian | kd3, there will be less people hammering the servers when they go live, I'm wondering if there's actually quite a few blizzard employees polishing / patching this weekend |
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| 00:47.34 | Thunder_Child | you know, if you are going to post something on the web you think you would at least take the time to grammer/spell check it |
| 00:49.27 | Lopeppeppy | Wut u meen/ |
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| 00:57.24 | Corrodias | i dont' ge tit |
| 00:58.56 | Lopeppeppy | Someone set us up the bomb. |
| 00:59.40 | Sixen | Geez, Char copy queue is full.. |
| 00:59.40 | Sixen | :/ |
| 01:00.32 | kd3 | check back in a little under three hours. should be down low enough for the website to reactivate it |
| 01:00.38 | Sixen | :p |
| 01:02.27 | kd3 | allegedly the servers are starting to come up, but I don't believe it and neither does my copy of the realmselect screen |
| 01:03.42 | Sixen | Well, Char Copy is up, so I wouldn't doubt the PTR is going up soon. |
| 01:03.47 | Sixen | I'm installing it, i'll let you know what I see. |
| 01:05.05 | Thunder_Child | Lopeppeppy, i was refering to http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/january/sunwell_loots.jpg |
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| 01:05.53 | Thunder_Child | -_- |
| 01:05.56 | Sixen | Heh |
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| 01:13.55 | Sixen | No realm list for me. |
| 01:14.01 | Iriel | nor me |
| 01:14.12 | clad|sleep | i have eu lists |
| 01:14.25 | clad|sleep | and have a character created |
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| 01:14.30 | clad|sleep | just trying to get _on_ |
| 01:14.36 | Iriel | Hm.. so much for shared PTR's |
| 01:15.01 | Sixen | Heh, :P. |
| 01:16.32 | MentalPower | howdy from the airport :) |
| 01:16.38 | Sixen | Brb! |
| 01:16.38 | kd3 | oh neat. a screenshot of the UI options window |
| 01:16.42 | kd3 | http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot021008023145jr2.jpg |
| 01:16.52 | MentalPower | so I gather the PTR is up? |
| 01:17.00 | kd3 | in EU, allegedly |
| 01:17.04 | Sixen | Cool! |
| 01:17.13 | nevcairiel | the new ui window is cool |
| 01:17.17 | Sixen | About time they got a better window :P |
| 01:17.19 | nevcairiel | nicely categorized |
| 01:17.23 | nevcairiel | not fullscreen anymore |
| 01:17.24 | nevcairiel | ftw :) |
| 01:17.26 | kd3 | some US posters allege that it's up over here but I don't see it |
| 01:17.27 | Sixen | I'll brb a bit,. |
| 01:17.38 | clad|sleep | I'm logging into my eu server |
| 01:17.40 | Shadowed | the US posters are lying bastards |
| 01:17.41 | Shadowed | fyi |
| 01:17.44 | clad|sleep | but can't actually get my character to load |
| 01:17.46 | clad|sleep | oh wait |
| 01:17.47 | clad|sleep | here we go |
| 01:17.48 | clad|sleep | i'm a gnome |
| 01:17.49 | clad|sleep | lol |
| 01:18.03 | clad|sleep | analyzer run |
| 01:18.06 | kd3 | Shadowed, oh, of course. I'm a regular on the PTR. I know how full of shit most trolls are |
| 01:19.48 | clad|sleep | http://patchdiff.pastey.net/81970 |
| 01:20.14 | clad|sleep | <3 automated compares |
| 01:20.20 | Shadowed | hrm |
| 01:20.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | wow |
| 01:20.29 | Shadowed | CHAT_MSG_OPENING |
| 01:20.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | the new interface options is nice |
| 01:20.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's like a builtin rock/khaos |
| 01:20.50 | clad|sleep | I'm 100% confident in the event list changes, by the way :P |
| 01:20.58 | Shadowed | bet you PLAYER_ENTERING_BATTLEGROUND doesn’t include arenas |
| 01:21.01 | kd3 | I'm reminded of CT's new UI tbqh |
| 01:21.21 | MentalPower | clad|sleep: can you tell me if a new combat event is fired for target changes? |
| 01:21.36 | clad|sleep | what do you mean |
| 01:21.38 | clad|sleep | i can test somethign quick |
| 01:21.42 | clad|sleep | but i'm going to bed afterwards :P |
| 01:21.44 | Shadowed | GrantLevel? |
| 01:21.47 | Shadowed | I wonder what that is |
| 01:21.47 | clad|sleep | what can i try for ya |
| 01:22.17 | MentalPower | register for the new evetn |
| 01:22.28 | MentalPower | and tell me if it fires when you change targets |
| 01:22.37 | MentalPower | (unfiltered event) |
| 01:22.44 | clad|sleep | MentalPower: which event specifically? |
| 01:22.59 | MentalPower | "COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED" |
| 01:23.11 | Iriel | I'm sure MP wants to know if there's a PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED equivalent that gives you the GUID of your target if it doesn't do anything else |
| 01:23.19 | MentalPower | :) |
| 01:23.21 | clad|sleep | 255- "GetNumLaguages", |
| 01:23.21 | clad|sleep | 256+ "GetNumLanguages", |
| 01:23.22 | clad|sleep | woohoo |
| 01:23.25 | MentalPower | what Iriel said :) |
| 01:23.25 | Iriel | i.e. can you get the GUID of something by just targetting it |
| 01:23.37 | art3mis | mmm geshi syntax highlighting in wiki pages |
| 01:25.13 | MentalPower | SummonFriend() ??? |
| 01:26.13 | Shadowed | Maybe some sort of weird API call for meeting stones? |
| 01:26.36 | MentalPower | its new tho |
| 01:29.12 | clad|sleep | MentalPower: no, i can't see a way to get it on targeting only |
| 01:29.18 | MentalPower | ... |
| 01:29.19 | MentalPower | bah |
| 01:29.28 | MentalPower | oh well, thanks clad|sleep |
| 01:29.28 | clad|sleep | didn't get it until the swing event |
| 01:29.33 | clad|sleep | np |
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| 01:31.16 | clad|sleep | quest ids confirmed. |
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| 01:31.24 | clad|sleep | new lightheaded inc :p |
| 01:31.31 | Arrowmaster | omg quest ids! |
| 01:32.14 | Shadowed | clad|sleep: whats the quest format |
| 01:32.16 | Shadowed | link thing |
| 01:32.29 | nevcairiel | yay quest ids |
| 01:32.31 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 01:32.42 | clad|sleep | |Hquest:179:1|h[Dwarven Outfitters]|h|r |
| 01:32.43 | Arrowmaster | how did you make that list of events and functions? from diffs or pulling strings from the exes? |
| 01:32.44 | clad|sleep | questid |
| 01:32.45 | clad|sleep | quest level |
| 01:32.50 | Shadowed | nice |
| 01:32.59 | clad|sleep | Arrowmaster: its a number of different approaches |
| 01:33.15 | clad|sleep | i mine the executable for possible events, and then check all of them to get a 100% accurate list |
| 01:33.24 | clad|sleep | the function compare is just a sorted list of the c functions, basically |
| 01:33.33 | Arrowmaster | nice |
| 01:33.37 | clad|sleep | but i have it automated, it generates the addon for me, and copies the SV out when i reload and does the analysis |
| 01:33.41 | clad|sleep | then i just diff the files |
| 01:33.44 | clad|sleep | i have one for each build |
| 01:34.10 | clad|sleep | but |
| 01:34.18 | clad|sleep | i'm not sure why AbandonQuest is shown as removed |
| 01:34.18 | clad|sleep | O.o |
| 01:34.52 | clad|sleep | erm |
| 01:35.04 | clad|sleep | oh bugger |
| 01:35.08 | clad|sleep | i have to re-compare |
| 01:35.08 | clad|sleep | brb |
| 01:35.13 | clad|sleep | blizzard feedback ui |
| 01:35.15 | clad|sleep | tainting everything |
| 01:35.22 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 01:35.32 | Arrowmaster | they need to make that damn thing secure |
| 01:39.28 | kd3 | anyone with a realm list, mind running a dns lookup? "nslookup beta.us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com" |
| 01:41.14 | clad|sleep | updated compare: http://patchdiff.pastey.net/81971 |
| 01:41.18 | clad|sleep | now 100% less taint! |
| 01:42.12 | clad|sleep | and goodnight :P |
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| 01:45.21 | Shirik | anyone here know how to use gdb? |
| 01:47.34 | Arrowmaster | CanGrantLevel, GrantLevel wonder what those are |
| 01:47.58 | Arrowmaster | IsTalentTrainer, IsTrainerServiceLearnSpell, IsTrainerServiceTradeSkill |
| 01:48.01 | Arrowmaster | wonder where those went |
| 01:48.02 | kd3 | damn you... let me on |
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| 01:50.56 | foxlit | Quick question |
| 01:51.10 | foxlit | ok, ret1, ret = pcall(func, arg1, arg2); |
| 01:51.30 | foxlit | ok, ret1, ret = xpcall(func, debug.traceback, arg1, arg2); --? |
| 01:51.47 | foxlit | Does xpcall actually take parameters to call the function with, or? |
| 01:53.17 | Dezzimal | http://eu-warrior.com/2.4_from_pallish/ |
| 01:56.00 | foxlit | And moonkin itemization returns to spirit |
| 01:56.02 | foxlit | Interesting |
| 01:56.18 | nevcairiel | foxlit: no xpcall currently doenst pass the parameters in |
| 01:56.22 | nevcairiel | you need to create a closure |
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| 01:57.33 | kd3 | forums just break for anyone else? |
| 01:59.27 | Cairenn | fine for me |
| 01:59.33 | kd3 | bleh |
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| 02:38.51 | Atriace | Is there an event other than PLAYER_FLAGS_CHANGED that would allow you to know whenever you've gone AFK? |
| 02:39.56 | Atriace | Or would you have to somehow know from the chat message that's sent? |
| 02:40.27 | Atriace | Or better yet, is there a way to track the amount of time being idle? |
| 02:41.14 | Atriace | Or... is the moon really made of cheese? |
| 02:43.41 | Tem | Atriace smells like cheese |
| 02:44.14 | Atriace | Apparently. It must be limberger cheese too. -_- |
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| 03:03.36 | Atriace | Alright... I think I can do this after all. |
| 03:03.41 | Atriace | http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_A-Z_%28Full_List%29#CHAT_MSG_AFK |
| 03:04.10 | MentalPower | so... missing a flight would be bad right :) |
| 03:04.20 | MentalPower | later folks : |
| 03:04.22 | Atriace | Only problem is I don't know how to accept the arguments. I'm registered for the event, but how do I say "arg1, arg2"? |
| 03:04.23 | MentalPower | :) |
| 03:04.41 | Atriace | Yeah, i'd say that's bad. Fly fast, Mental! :) |
| 03:05.16 | MentalPower | Atriace: I would answer you, but I can't |
| 03:05.24 | Atriace | Gooooo! |
| 03:05.27 | MentalPower | if you still have that problem in two hours I |
| 03:05.32 | MentalPower | I'll be happy to help |
| 03:05.36 | Atriace | I've missed my flight before. I had to drive 8 hours through the night instead. |
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| 03:12.45 | Atriace | It's amazing what time can do for finding answers. |
| 03:13.16 | Atriace | I keep finding them... eventually. Why must they hide? WHY? ^_^ |
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| 03:13.35 | Atriace | So, basicly: function MyAddOn_OnEvent(this, event, arg1, arg2, arg3, arg4, ...) |
| 03:13.38 | art3mis | see above about the smell |
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| 03:14.48 | Atriace | Behold the power of cheese. |
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| 03:28.19 | Corrodias | trying to enter ony's lair, it aborted with this error: Transfer aborted: instance not found |
| 03:28.33 | Corrodias | now, trying again, we've been stuck on the loading screen for over a minute |
| 03:29.11 | Corrodias | (trying again because somebody did make it inside) |
| 03:29.45 | Corrodias | finally, i get inside |
| 03:31.46 | Corrodias | okay, i got inside, and the trash is here alright, but the raid portal is nonfunctional. i walk right through it without going outside. |
| 03:31.58 | Corrodias | THERE We go, now i'm outside |
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| 03:37.53 | Thunder_Child | Corrodias, please stop breaking the game |
| 03:38.06 | Thunder_Child | it's not verry nice for others |
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| 03:43.46 | kd3 | whee, my copy's gone through |
| 03:43.48 | kd3 | wtb realms |
| 03:45.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Whoo, mine has too |
| 03:46.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Ha, both of mine went through |
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| 04:39.06 | Thunder_Child | one....more....level.... |
| 04:39.49 | oreth | ... |
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| 04:49.07 | Corrodias | now, when i try to hearth out, it says instance not found |
| 04:49.16 | Corrodias | apparently meaning the outland server |
| 04:51.44 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: it appears that people are on the PTR now... |
| 04:52.09 | kd3 | last report I saw showed a grand total of 3 people on alliance-side on one of the realms |
| 04:52.24 | kd3 | I'm still not getting a realm list |
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| 04:55.02 | Guillotine | so US PTR is up too? |
| 04:55.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Try setting your realmlist to 192.153.156.3 |
| 04:55.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Er |
| 04:55.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Never mind |
| 04:55.27 | ScytheBlade1 | I need to read posts in full |
| 04:55.40 | Corrodias | set your realmlist to 127.0.0.4 |
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| 04:57.40 | ScytheBlade1 | ... what if we installed the enGB client? |
| 04:59.47 | oreth | I'm writing an addon that goes out to the armory, grabs profession information for everyone in your guild, and allows you to view it in the game.... would anybody even use it? :P |
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| 05:00.26 | Legorol | i can confirm EU realms are up, and visible from an EU client :) that's all i can confirm |
| 05:00.30 | Legorol | i don't see any US realms |
| 05:00.35 | Legorol | nor does the char copy page list them for me |
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| 05:01.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Legorol: worth a shot! |
| 05:01.40 | Legorol | ScytheBlade1: what does? |
| 05:01.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Installing the enGB client |
| 05:01.59 | Legorol | that's the one i have |
| 05:02.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, I have the enUS |
| 05:02.17 | Legorol | so... i'm confused |
| 05:02.34 | Legorol | you can still only authenticate via the EU login server if you have an EU account |
| 05:02.39 | Legorol | client doesn't matter |
| 05:02.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Supposedly they are merged though |
| 05:02.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm |
| 05:02.59 | ScytheBlade1 | What is your realmlist.wtf? |
| 05:03.56 | Guillotine | I don't think the login servers are merged though |
| 05:04.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, but I want to poke, so I'm desperate :P |
| 05:04.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Besides, it's either that or do dailys |
| 05:05.17 | Guillotine | well, let me know if it works |
| 05:05.27 | Guillotine | I really need to get onto PTR as well |
| 05:05.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Legorol: what is the contents of your realmlist.wtf by chance? |
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| 05:09.23 | Legorol | set realmlist eu.logon.worldofwarcraft.com |
| 05:09.23 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+v norgs] by ChanServ |
| 05:09.35 | Legorol | but changing realmlist.wtf hasn't worked for a long time |
| 05:09.45 | Legorol | the client seems to ignore it if you change it, and resets it back to that line |
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| 05:09.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Er, is that in your wowtest folder? |
| 05:10.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Or your stock client folder? |
| 05:10.06 | Legorol | sorry, no, you are right |
| 05:10.21 | Legorol | beta.eu.logon.worldofwarcraft.com |
| 05:10.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, that's a bit better |
| 05:10.48 | Legorol | oh, realmlist.wtf modifying works again :O |
| 05:10.51 | Legorol | when did that come back |
| 05:11.06 | ScytheBlade1 | I just use the console when I need to play with it |
| 05:11.30 | ScytheBlade1 | asdf |
| 05:11.35 | ScytheBlade1 | LOGIN_UNKNOWN_ACCOUNT |
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| 05:13.21 | oreth | so, i'm writing wow addons in Linux... what's a good debugger? |
| 05:13.40 | ScytheBlade1 | oreth: debugger? |
| 05:13.55 | oreth | someway of figuring out why my code isn't working properly |
| 05:14.17 | oreth | i've got a small syntax error or something that I can't figure out |
| 05:14.17 | oreth | it just doesn't work |
| 05:15.02 | oreth | duurrrr |
| 05:15.13 | ScytheBlade1 | There is no OS-specific addon debugger that I know of... or any addon debugger for that matter |
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| 05:16.13 | oreth | i need someone to stand over me and hit me with a spoon |
| 05:16.21 | oreth | "Don't wrap functions in {}" |
| 05:16.52 | ScytheBlade1 | hehe |
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| 05:19.56 | MentalPower | bah, antiarc is not on |
| 05:20.48 | oreth | he's busy with blippr release |
| 05:20.51 | oreth | if i had to guess |
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| 05:23.08 | Legorol | just to wet your appetites: |
| 05:23.09 | Legorol | the new combat log is oohhh so sechsy |
| 05:23.33 | Legorol | i've been using SimpleCombatLog for a while now, and the blizz one is as good and more |
| 05:23.38 | Legorol | it's really really handy |
| 05:24.03 | Corrodias | you're out of touhc |
| 05:24.09 | Corrodias | i'm out of time |
| 05:24.12 | Legorol | lol |
| 05:24.16 | Corrodias | but i'm out of my head when you're not around |
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| 05:26.26 | Thunder_Child | "new and improved stool: now with blood!" |
| 05:31.38 | Legorol | oooh, just to tease some more |
| 05:31.46 | Legorol | the new interface options panels are sechsy too :D |
| 05:32.31 | Guillotine | Legorol, did you hear that you can now log into WoW via IRC? |
| 05:32.34 | Guillotine | Account: |
| 05:32.36 | Guillotine | Password: |
| 05:32.47 | Olison | >_> |
| 05:32.48 | Guillotine | hurry, log on or your account will be disabled! |
| 05:33.04 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 05:33.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Guillotine: I approve of your methods |
| 05:34.01 | Shirik | Account: Shirik |
| 05:34.06 | Legorol | oooh, i didn't know, i need to try |
| 05:34.12 | Shirik | Password: GuillotineIsMyLover |
| 05:34.13 | Legorol | Account: Doyoutakeme |
| 05:34.13 | kd3 | damn it! hit the wrong button and started wow instead of the PTR. almost fell out of my chair when I got past realm select |
| 05:34.14 | Guillotine | Legorol: can you check for me if UNIT_HEALTH is gone? |
| 05:34.16 | Shirik | >.> |
| 05:34.18 | Shirik | <.< |
| 05:34.19 | Legorol | Password: forasucker? |
| 05:34.36 | Legorol | Guillotine: tell me how and i will |
| 05:34.45 | Legorol | (no addons active atm) |
| 05:35.05 | Guillotine | alright, let me write a script quickly you can copy and paste into chat |
| 05:35.13 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:35.20 | ScytheBlade1 | That'll either error or run without problems |
| 05:35.29 | Arrowmaster | why would you think UNIT_HEALTH would be gone? |
| 05:35.40 | Guillotine | I'm wondering if it is considered a Combat event |
| 05:35.44 | Guillotine | Kaelten thought it was |
| 05:35.46 | MentalPower | ./run local f=CreateFrame("Frame") f:RegisterEvent("UNIT_HEALTH") f:SetScript("OnEvent", function() ChatFrame1:AddMessage("I FIRED DAMMIT!!!") end) |
| 05:35.50 | Arrowmaster | dont think so |
| 05:35.58 | MentalPower | Guillotine, Legorol: ^^^^ |
| 05:36.10 | Guillotine | MP: how was your flight home? |
| 05:36.11 | Shirik | Sooooo, I have now learned what Linus was talking about when he said that merging is a pain in SVN |
| 05:36.19 | Shirik | I merged a branch today |
| 05:36.28 | Guillotine | ah |
| 05:36.31 | Shirik | And I'm not kidding, every single file except one of the automatically created ones entered a conflicted state |
| 05:36.33 | Guillotine | free wireless ftw :D |
| 05:36.36 | MentalPower | indeed! |
| 05:36.37 | Thunder_Child | Legorol, dont give in, they only want to be your friend when you have something they want |
| 05:36.51 | Guillotine | no, we don't want to be his friend. we just want what he has! |
| 05:36.52 | Guillotine | duh! |
| 05:37.11 | Thunder_Child | most people at least pretend to be friends while doing that |
| 05:37.28 | Guillotine | I prefer to just say 'gief meh' |
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| 05:37.45 | Legorol | registering a non-existent event doesn't error |
| 05:37.52 | Legorol | so i did f:RegisterEvent("UNIT_HEALTH") |
| 05:37.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh |
| 05:38.00 | Legorol | and then f:IsEventRegistered("UNIT_HEALTH") |
| 05:38.02 | Legorol | that returned 1 |
| 05:38.14 | Guillotine | would that return false if the event didn't exist? |
| 05:38.25 | Guillotine | actually, I wonder if combat events were left in and just don't fire |
| 05:38.26 | Legorol | whereas f:RegisterEvent("bogus_event") f:IsEventRegistered("bogus_event") returns nil |
| 05:38.34 | Legorol | Guillotine: didn't check return value |
| 05:38.40 | Guillotine | try something we know is gone |
| 05:38.54 | Thunder_Child | like out pride |
| 05:38.58 | Thunder_Child | s/out/our/ |
| 05:39.27 | Guillotine | like CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_CREATURE_VS_CREATURE_HITS |
| 05:39.32 | Guillotine | TC: maybe yours |
| 05:39.36 | Arrowmaster | http://patchdiff.pastey.net/81971 |
| 05:39.39 | Thunder_Child | i never had any |
| 05:40.14 | Guillotine | Arrowmaster: you are amazing. Thank you |
| 05:41.05 | Arrowmaster | Legorol: type /run SummonFriend() |
| 05:41.26 | Legorol | CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_CREATURE_VS_CREATURE_HITS is nonexistent |
| 05:41.35 | Legorol | at least it behaves identical to LEGOS_BOGUS_EVENT |
| 05:41.59 | Legorol | Arrowmaster: it does nothing |
| 05:42.08 | Legorol | btw, RegisterEvent doesn't return anything, not even nil |
| 05:42.17 | Arrowmaster | did it error? |
| 05:42.18 | Legorol | type(f:RegisterEvent("blah")) errors |
| 05:42.23 | Legorol | no it didn't, Arrowmaster |
| 05:42.28 | Arrowmaster | GrantLevel() |
| 05:42.43 | Arrowmaster | GetUnitMaxHealthModifier("player") |
| 05:43.12 | Arrowmaster | CanSummonFriend() |
| 05:43.16 | Legorol | none of them error |
| 05:43.29 | Arrowmaster | well whats the Get one return? |
| 05:43.37 | Legorol | didn't print it :) |
| 05:43.53 | Legorol | it returns 1 |
| 05:44.03 | Arrowmaster | and why cant these functions error to give us an idea of wtf they do |
| 05:44.05 | Legorol | i'm a level 1 gnome mage if that matters |
| 05:45.04 | Gnarfoz | CanSummonFriend will check if you can... summon a friend, I guess? instance restriction check etc? |
| 05:45.22 | Guillotine | Legorol: can you try using GetItemFamily(itemID)? |
| 05:45.31 | Guillotine | it appears in the difs, but wasn't documented |
| 05:46.07 | Legorol | give me an itemid to try |
| 05:46.36 | Guillotine | 2807 |
| 05:46.41 | Arrowmaster | that was mentioned in the thread on the ui forums i thought |
| 05:46.46 | Legorol | returns 0 |
| 05:46.49 | Guillotine | no, the icon was |
| 05:47.00 | Guillotine | Legorol: can you try putting a full item link in there? |
| 05:47.06 | Legorol | give me one |
| 05:47.16 | Legorol | i'm way too sleepy at the moment to think on my own, i'll be yoru chimp |
| 05:47.44 | Guillotine | "\124cffa335ee\124Hitem:2807:0:0:0:0:0:0:0\124h[Guillotine Axe]\124h\124r" |
| 05:48.01 | Legorol | returns 0 |
| 05:48.04 | Legorol | go figure |
| 05:48.06 | Guillotine | hmm |
| 05:48.08 | Guillotine | oooo |
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| 05:48.15 | Arrowmaster | what does "" return |
| 05:48.30 | Arrowmaster | 0 or nil? |
| 05:48.33 | Legorol | 0 |
| 05:48.43 | Guillotine | lets try GetSpellLink() and see what it says the arguments are |
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| 05:48.55 | Guillotine | and see what the format of spell links are :D |
| 05:49.28 | Legorol | GetSpellLink(): Invalid spell slot |
| 05:49.29 | Arrowmaster | TEXT_MODE_A_STRING_SOURCE_UNIT = "|Hunit:$sourceGUID:$sourceName|h$sourceNameString|h"; |
| 05:49.29 | Arrowmaster | TEXT_MODE_A_STRING_SOURCE_ICON = "|Hicon:$iconBit:source|h$iconTexture|h"; |
| 05:49.29 | Arrowmaster | TEXT_MODE_A_STRING_SPELL = "|Hspell:$spellId:$eventType|h$spellName|h"; |
| 05:49.30 | Arrowmaster | TEXT_MODE_A_STRING_SPELL_EXTRA = "|Hspell:$extraSpellId:$eventType|h$extraSpellName|h"; |
| 05:49.38 | Arrowmaster | TEXT_MODE_A_STRING_ACTION = "|Haction:$eventType|h$action|h"; |
| 05:49.40 | Legorol | lol you guys are desperate |
| 05:49.45 | Arrowmaster | TEXT_MODE_A_STRING_DEST_UNIT = "|Hunit:$destGUID:$destName|h$destNameString|h"; |
| 05:49.45 | Arrowmaster | TEXT_MODE_A_STRING_DEST_ICON = "|Hicon:$iconBit:dest|h$iconTexture|h"; |
| 05:49.46 | Legorol | PTR not even up yet you got a chimp to do it for you :D |
| 05:49.59 | Guillotine | Legorol: try GetSpellLink(1) |
| 05:50.53 | Legorol | i'm doing /run message(GetSpellLink(1)) |
| 05:50.54 | Arrowmaster | GetSpellLink(46699) |
| 05:51.07 | Legorol | the result is [World of Recall (OLD)] in cyan in the message window |
| 05:51.29 | Arrowmaster | can you click it? |
| 05:51.32 | Arrowmaster | or mouseover it? |
| 05:51.47 | Arrowmaster | if not print to chat |
| 05:51.54 | Legorol | i just did |
| 05:51.59 | Guillotine | whoaaa |
| 05:52.03 | Guillotine | it isn't from your spellbook |
| 05:52.07 | Legorol | i can add it to ChatFrame |
| 05:52.08 | Guillotine | its the actual id |
| 05:52.14 | Thunder_Child | ~pet Legorol |
| 05:52.14 | purl | ACTION reaches over and pets Legorol on the head, saying "There, there! It'll all be ok!" |
| 05:52.17 | Legorol | spell 1 is World of Recall (OLD) |
| 05:52.19 | Legorol | i can click the link |
| 05:52.25 | Legorol | it's a 10 mana 10 sec cast spell :) |
| 05:52.26 | Legorol | no more info |
| 05:52.30 | Arrowmaster | Guillotine: like everything is a link in the combatlog now |
| 05:52.32 | Legorol | you can now link spells in chat btw |
| 05:52.35 | Legorol | did you know? |
| 05:52.35 | Arrowmaster | units spells |
| 05:52.36 | Thunder_Child | hmm..meant more of a "good boy" kinda thing |
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| 05:53.05 | Legorol | 46699 is [Requires No Ammo] |
| 05:53.05 | Guillotine | Legorol: try GetSpellLink(33983) |
| 05:53.20 | Guillotine | then do /dump "link" |
| 05:53.31 | Legorol | 46699 is an Instant, with yellow text: "Thori'dal generates magical arrows.. blah blah blah" |
| 05:53.37 | Legorol | Guillotine: i don't have /dump |
| 05:53.38 | Legorol | no addons |
| 05:53.47 | Legorol | but i have defined a few functions now so this is less painful :) |
| 05:53.50 | Guillotine | then this: |
| 05:54.17 | Legorol | 33983 is mangle (cat) |
| 05:54.37 | Guillotine | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:55.23 | Legorol | is it 124? not 168? |
| 05:55.32 | Guillotine | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:55.32 | MentalPower | \124 == | |
| 05:55.45 | Legorol | ah right |
| 05:55.49 | Legorol | sorry my bad, wrong number |
| 05:56.03 | Legorol | i defined a function for dumping now, all good |
| 05:56.32 | Legorol | |cff71d5ff|Hspell:33983|h[Mangle (Cat)]|h|r |
| 05:56.39 | Guillotine | you are my hero. Thanks |
| 05:56.46 | Legorol | lol my pleasure |
| 05:57.01 | Arrowmaster | i already linked you taht |
| 05:57.07 | Arrowmaster | from the combatlog.lua |
| 05:57.17 | Guillotine | ohhhh |
| 05:57.20 | Guillotine | thats what it was |
| 05:57.22 | Guillotine | haha, thanks |
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| 05:58.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Wait, GetSpellLink()? Win |
| 05:58.46 | Guillotine | yup, spells are now linkable |
| 05:58.53 | dylanm | Craaaazy. |
| 05:59.14 | Thunder_Child | what exactly would the pont of that be? |
| 05:59.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Datamining! |
| 05:59.26 | ScytheBlade1 | afk food |
| 05:59.30 | Cidan | A sword? |
| 05:59.54 | Shirik | Wasn't there something about ReloadUI() becoming protected? |
| 05:59.58 | Shirik | I thought it had for some reason |
| 05:59.59 | Shirik | oh well |
| 06:00.02 | Shirik | glad it's not |
| 06:00.08 | Guillotine | Legorol: see if you can change the color of the spell link |
| 06:00.10 | Shirik | EnableAddon()...ReloadUI() = so much better than having to relog |
| 06:00.19 | Shirik | except it didn't work wtf |
| 06:00.25 | kd3 | whuh? why on earth would they protect reloadui() |
| 06:00.46 | Shirik | I don't know, I just seem to remember something in the backend of RDX getting protected |
| 06:00.52 | Shirik | and it couldn't do a master reset anymore |
| 06:01.53 | batrick | hi friends |
| 06:01.58 | Shirik | HAI FRND |
| 06:02.04 | batrick | how is 2.4 |
| 06:02.05 | Arrowmaster | GetQuestLink(1) |
| 06:02.06 | Arrowmaster | pls |
| 06:02.27 | ScytheBlade1 | My only guess is to prevent automatic saving of variables.. no matter how impratical it is |
| 06:03.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Actually... |
| 06:03.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Get a second account, have one box be the "storage" box. Send the data to it, reload the UI every minute. |
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| 06:04.01 | Iriel | Reload has been protected since 2.0 |
| 06:04.27 | Arrowmaster | or you could just do something like packetsniff the traffic and send addon whispers to yourself |
| 06:04.37 | Arrowmaster | seems easier if its not encrypted |
| 06:04.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel: protected to what degree? |
| 06:04.46 | Iriel | Requires a hardware event |
| 06:04.47 | batrick | can't use in combat |
| 06:04.48 | Arrowmaster | hardware event required |
| 06:04.54 | batrick | err |
| 06:05.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, right |
| 06:05.31 | Arrowmaster | so is us ptr up yet? |
| 06:05.46 | Guillotine | nope :( |
| 06:07.02 | Thunder_Child | us is nub |
| 06:07.09 | Legorol | sorry had to afk for a bit |
| 06:07.16 | Legorol | anything else you want me to try in the next 5 mins before i poof? |
| 06:07.31 | Arrowmaster | GetQuestLink(1) |
| 06:08.16 | Guillotine | Legorol: see if linking a quest or spell link in chat without color works |
| 06:08.18 | Legorol | returns nil |
| 06:08.26 | Legorol | Guillotine: what? |
| 06:08.36 | Legorol | how would i link one without colour? |
| 06:08.58 | Guillotine | hold on, I'll give you script |
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| 06:09.37 | Guillotine | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:09.39 | Guillotine | and try linking that |
| 06:09.56 | Arrowmaster | bah |
| 06:09.58 | Arrowmaster | local questLink = GetQuestLink(questIndex); |
| 06:10.03 | Cidan | Iriel: In reply to my post like, 6 days ago, (about scroll bars breaking zorder) same thing happens if I reverse the levels |
| 06:10.03 | Legorol | i can't do that from chat edit box |
| 06:10.13 | Legorol | Guillotine: the chat edit box escapes the pipes |
| 06:10.16 | Legorol | sec |
| 06:10.21 | Guillotine | legorol: replace | with \124 |
| 06:10.21 | Legorol | i know what to do, just give me time |
| 06:10.23 | Legorol | (brain is slow) |
| 06:10.24 | Legorol | yup |
| 06:10.53 | Legorol | ok links without colour and is clickable |
| 06:11.00 | Guillotine | is it linkable in chat? |
| 06:11.07 | Guillotine | and is the color the same for every spell? |
| 06:11.20 | Guillotine | also, try GetQuestLink(610) |
| 06:11.28 | Guillotine | and see if its the same color |
| 06:11.36 | Arrowmaster | questlink if for your questlog |
| 06:11.41 | Arrowmaster | not questids |
| 06:11.52 | Guillotine | oh |
| 06:11.53 | Guillotine | dang |
| 06:12.07 | Arrowmaster | but you can use it to get the questid of quests in your questlog |
| 06:12.14 | Legorol | ok interesting one: |
| 06:12.15 | Guillotine | omg, you're right |
| 06:12.16 | Legorol | /run SendChatMessage("\124Hspell:33983\124h[Mangle (Cat)]\124h\124r") |
| 06:12.20 | Legorol | errors |
| 06:12.29 | Guillotine | interesting. with what error? |
| 06:12.30 | Legorol | Invalid escape code in hat message |
| 06:12.34 | Legorol | what did i do wrong? |
| 06:12.38 | Legorol | *chat |
| 06:12.41 | Guillotine | get rid of \124r |
| 06:12.43 | Arrowmaster | remove the |r |
| 06:12.48 | Guillotine | we don't have a color anymore |
| 06:12.52 | Guillotine | that just closes color codes |
| 06:12.57 | Legorol | same error |
| 06:13.08 | Legorol | /run SendChatMessage("\124Hspell:33983\124h[Mangle (Cat)]\124h") |
| 06:13.23 | Guillotine | strange |
| 06:13.34 | Guillotine | theres no way they made it so you couldn't use \124, is there? |
| 06:13.39 | Guillotine | to prevent item spoofing? |
| 06:13.41 | Legorol | GetQuestLink(610) returns nil |
| 06:13.58 | Arrowmaster | do you have a quest in your questlog? |
| 06:14.02 | Legorol | none :D |
| 06:14.05 | Legorol | i'll go get one |
| 06:14.31 | Legorol | there you go, got one |
| 06:14.43 | Legorol | /run pr(type(GetQuestLink(1))) |
| 06:14.45 | Legorol | that's nil |
| 06:14.51 | Arrowmaster | 0 |
| 06:15.32 | Legorol | nil |
| 06:15.52 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl |
| 06:15.54 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4493721420&sid=1 |
| 06:15.59 | ScytheBlade1 | ^^^^^^^^^ is win |
| 06:16.18 | kd3 | hah |
| 06:17.15 | Legorol | Guillotine: to answer your earlier question |
| 06:17.28 | Legorol | so far all the spells you guys made me tried were cyan coloured |
| 06:17.44 | Guillotine | can you try manually linking a quest? |
| 06:17.45 | Legorol | the one where i stripped the colour and printed to chatframe, i can relink it in chat by shift+clicking |
| 06:17.47 | Guillotine | by shift-clicking it |
| 06:17.54 | Legorol | when i shift+click, it reacquires its colour |
| 06:17.54 | Guillotine | so you can color it yourself and it works |
| 06:17.57 | Guillotine | ohhh |
| 06:18.00 | Guillotine | perfect |
| 06:18.20 | Legorol | no idea how that works |
| 06:18.37 | Legorol | seems like the shift+click code generates the link in the chat edit box based purely on the spell id |
| 06:18.42 | Legorol | and picks the colour for it |
| 06:18.47 | Legorol | or something |
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| 06:18.49 | Arrowmaster | does the same for items |
| 06:18.55 | Legorol | aha |
| 06:18.55 | Guillotine | so can you try shift-clicking a quest and getting us the format for that? |
| 06:19.08 | Arrowmaster | if you have an itemlink thats got a blank name, when you relink it will have a proper name |
| 06:19.13 | Legorol | quest links are yellow :) |
| 06:19.19 | Guillotine | It wasn't in the list arrowmaster gave us |
| 06:19.24 | Arrowmaster | was too |
| 06:19.28 | Guillotine | was it? |
| 06:19.45 | Arrowmaster | its somewhere around here i thought |
| 06:19.48 | Guillotine | no |
| 06:19.50 | Guillotine | nothing about quest |
| 06:19.53 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 06:20.03 | Arrowmaster | well somebody already told me its quest:id:level |
| 06:20.04 | Arrowmaster | i think |
| 06:20.07 | Guillotine | is the code on wdn yet? |
| 06:20.20 | kd3 | ya |
| 06:20.21 | Legorol | Guillotine: |cffffff00|Hquest:179:1|h[Dwarvern Outfitters]|h|r |
| 06:20.22 | Guillotine | awesome |
| 06:20.29 | Legorol | that's the quest in gnome start area |
| 06:20.39 | Guillotine | Legorol: thank |
| 06:20.45 | Legorol | it's yellow |
| 06:20.54 | Legorol | does that correspond to the |ccode? |
| 06:21.02 | Legorol | looks like white rgb to me |
| 06:21.04 | Legorol | or is it argb? |
| 06:21.06 | Legorol | can't remember |
| 06:21.14 | Arrowmaster | "|Hicon:$iconBit:source|h$iconTexture|h" |
| 06:21.17 | Kivin | argb iirc |
| 06:21.19 | Arrowmaster | lets figure out how to use that one |
| 06:21.30 | Legorol | that makes sense, red+green = yellow |
| 06:22.18 | Legorol | i still don't know what GetQuestLink does |
| 06:22.35 | Guillotine | We can probably figure it out by looking at quest log source |
| 06:22.54 | Arrowmaster | if ( IsModifiedClick("CHATLINK") and ChatFrameEditBox:IsVisible() ) then |
| 06:22.54 | Arrowmaster | local questLink = GetQuestLink(questIndex); |
| 06:22.54 | Arrowmaster | if ( questLink ) then |
| 06:22.54 | Arrowmaster | ChatEdit_InsertLink(questLink); |
| 06:22.55 | Arrowmaster | end |
| 06:23.05 | Guillotine | So what exactly do the mob links do? |
| 06:23.16 | Guillotine | alright, so GetQuestLink(0) would probably return a value |
| 06:23.40 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 06:23.41 | Arrowmaster | local questIndex = this:GetID() + FauxScrollFrame_GetOffset(QuestLogListScrollFrame); |
| 06:24.27 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 06:24.33 | ScytheBlade1 | CS forums: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4493771415&sid=1 |
| 06:25.27 | Legorol | GetQuestLink still not working for me :/ |
| 06:26.00 | Legorol | tried 0 and 1 |
| 06:26.37 | Guillotine | strange |
| 06:26.41 | Guillotine | well, we can figure that out later |
| 06:26.46 | Guillotine | oh |
| 06:26.49 | Guillotine | your quest log needs to be open |
| 06:26.52 | Guillotine | probably |
| 06:27.02 | Guillotine | since the id has always been affected by what are shown |
| 06:27.38 | Arrowmaster | try 2 |
| 06:27.42 | Arrowmaster | 1 might be the header |
| 06:27.48 | Guillotine | oh, thats true |
| 06:27.57 | Arrowmaster | 1 actually probably is the header |
| 06:29.59 | Guillotine | so, while we're waiting |
| 06:30.06 | Guillotine | www.theprodukkt.com = awesome |
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| 06:30.14 | Guillotine | the most amazing things you've seen in 64kb |
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| 06:30.26 | Guillotine | Antiarc: how was your flight? |
| 06:30.27 | Thunder_Child | zipped.... |
| 06:30.32 | Guillotine | unzipped |
| 06:30.41 | Guillotine | try the game |
| 06:30.55 | Antiarc | Hehe, I got to the airport late, but got onto the plane just in time |
| 06:30.56 | Guillotine | kkrieger |
| 06:31.03 | Antiarc | Aha, talking about .kkreiger I see :D |
| 06:31.13 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: I had hopes that you wouldn't notice that thread for a while, so you could come back to pages of "WTF HOW" :/ |
| 06:31.20 | Antiarc | It was a mostly empty flight, so I got a full row to myself, stretched out and slept |
| 06:31.28 | Antiarc | Was your flight okay? |
| 06:31.36 | Guillotine | yup :) |
| 06:31.40 | Guillotine | nice and short :P |
| 06:31.46 | Antiarc | hehe, nice |
| 06:31.49 | Antiarc | You're out of LA, right? |
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| 06:31.49 | Guillotine | our plane was ridiculously small |
| 06:31.53 | Guillotine | yah |
| 06:32.02 | Guillotine | there were only 3 seats to a row, and we all had to duck to walk |
| 06:32.11 | Antiarc | Hahah! Feel my pain! |
| 06:32.14 | Guillotine | lol |
| 06:32.32 | Legorol | you guys were right |
| 06:32.34 | Arrowmaster | hmm |
| 06:32.34 | Legorol | GetQuestLink(2) worked |
| 06:32.41 | Guillotine | awesome |
| 06:32.48 | Arrowmaster | where the fuck was i flying to that i was on a small ass plane like that |
| 06:32.51 | Legorol | works the way you expect it |
| 06:33.04 | Arrowmaster | probably vegas |
| 06:33.08 | Legorol | and with that, i'm off |
| 06:33.10 | Legorol | gnight |
| 06:33.24 | Arrowmaster | or was it on the way back from boston |
| 06:37.46 | Shirik | okay guys, random question |
| 06:37.55 | Shirik | My addon refuses to show itself. No errors, no display, no nothing. |
| 06:38.00 | Shirik | But it's in the addons list and checked |
| 06:38.11 | art3mis | ~fail Shirik |
| 06:38.12 | purl | Shirik: Fail. |
| 06:38.22 | Shirik | wtf could be going on -_- |
| 06:38.35 | Shirik | I guess there could be an error in the conspiracy error handler, hm |
| 06:38.41 | art3mis | did it load? is it lod? |
| 06:38.48 | Shirik | it's not lod |
| 06:38.52 | Shirik | and /conspiracy shows nothing |
| 06:39.00 | Shirik | (except the help thingy) |
| 06:39.07 | Cidan | I find this amusing |
| 06:39.10 | Shirik | which implies that the file didn't successfully compile |
| 06:39.11 | art3mis | display lua errors checked? |
| 06:39.14 | Shirik | it is |
| 06:39.26 | kd3 | stick a print("zomg, I loaded!:) on line 1? |
| 06:39.27 | Shirik | okay................. |
| 06:39.33 | Shirik | swatter didn't show me the error -_- |
| 06:39.37 | kd3 | lol |
| 06:39.41 | art3mis | did you punch cidan in the throat? |
| 06:39.52 | art3mis | that sometimes helps |
| 06:39.57 | art3mis | oh btw |
| 06:40.03 | art3mis | no country for old men is rpetty good |
| 06:40.10 | Shirik | Message: ..\AddOns\Conspiracy\Root.lua line 810: |
| 06:40.10 | Shirik | 'end' expected (to close 'function' at line 188) near '<eof>' |
| 06:40.10 | Shirik | Debug: |
| 06:40.12 | Shirik | grr...... |
| 06:40.14 | art3mis | even though it made little sense and ended badly |
| 06:40.34 | art3mis | the bad guy has a silencer on his shotgun |
| 06:40.38 | Cidan | Shirik: That's not my bug, D: |
| 06:40.48 | Shirik | no it's definitely mine from when I went to sleep in the middle of a function |
| 06:40.52 | art3mis | and carries around a pnuematic hammer that theye use to kill cattle |
| 06:41.05 | Cidan | rofl |
| 06:41.06 | Cidan | hahaha |
| 06:43.36 | danshrugged | Antiarc: how was your tour of sf man? |
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| 06:49.00 | Guillotine | I feel sorry for MP :( he just left texas |
| 06:49.11 | Guillotine | long flights FTL |
| 06:49.21 | kd3 | just left texas? red-eyes are ick |
| 06:49.56 | Thunder_Child | unless your normally up at that time anyway |
| 06:51.20 | danshrugged | which he certainly was last night, so he's probably wide awake |
| 06:51.31 | Guillotine | he woke up by noon today though |
| 06:51.40 | Guillotine | so hes probably tired as hell :P |
| 06:51.42 | |pez| | I should have waited with my shower until I'd slept... |
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| 06:53.22 | oreth | # |
| 06:53.22 | oreth | print professions[key].update(specs[key]) |
| 06:53.29 | oreth | sorry |
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| 06:58.27 | NightHawkTheSane | bahahaha http://www.taz.de/blogs/wp-inst/wp-content/blogs.dir/44/files/2006/11/LEGO%20Mohammed.jpg |
| 06:59.22 | Cidan | oh man |
| 06:59.27 | Cidan | who went to a red-eye? |
| 06:59.45 | Tem | "not suitable for girls" |
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| 07:00.28 | Cidan | Tem: Did you see the aussie raid? |
| 07:00.36 | Tem | I did not |
| 07:00.42 | Cidan | Tem: Real life raid. |
| 07:00.47 | Tem | *nod* |
| 07:00.49 | Cidan | Tem: Many brothers were there. |
| 07:01.02 | Tem | it's feb 10 so I figured we'd hear soon from those that live in tomorrow |
| 07:01.22 | Cidan | Screenshots in the normal place; kinda funny. |
| 07:06.18 | Tem | lol @ gas mask girl |
| 07:06.24 | Cidan | Yeah |
| 07:06.26 | Cidan | I laughed. |
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| 07:07.17 | Tem | also, the V masks are sorta... |
| 07:08.20 | Cidan | No harm done, I suppose. |
| 07:08.59 | art3mis | gibbor links |
| 07:09.11 | art3mis | obey the fist |
| 07:09.58 | Shirik | art3mis / Cidan, do either of you know how to use gdb? |
| 07:10.04 | Cidan | of course |
| 07:10.19 | Shirik | ok, I run this program and it's all like "SEGFAULT LAWL" right when it starts up |
| 07:10.32 | Shirik | so I'm all like "ok, load it into gdb" and gdb's all like (gdb) so I type "run" and hit enter |
| 07:10.39 | Shirik | and then it's all like "k. (gdb)" |
| 07:10.46 | Shirik | wtf? |
| 07:10.52 | Cidan | did you load it right? |
| 07:10.58 | Shirik | Isn't it supposed to be like "lawl your code sux, segfault found" |
| 07:11.05 | Shirik | I think so.... |
| 07:11.12 | Shirik | just "gdb ./ArduinoAI" right? |
| 07:11.19 | Cidan | yep |
| 07:11.43 | Shirik | then wtf -_- |
| 07:12.20 | kd3 | lol, they broke "breaking news" |
| 07:12.21 | Cidan | so you type run |
| 07:12.30 | Cidan | and you just get (gdb) again? |
| 07:12.33 | Tem | ~exception Shirik |
| 07:12.34 | purl | ACTION throws a NullPointerException at Shirik. |
| 07:12.40 | Shirik | wtf Java |
| 07:12.45 | Shirik | Cidan: yup |
| 07:12.49 | Cidan | oh is it java? |
| 07:12.52 | Shirik | kd3: That's awesome |
| 07:12.55 | Shirik | Cidan: No, what Temp did |
| 07:12.58 | Cidan | oh |
| 07:12.59 | Shirik | s/Temp/Tem/ |
| 07:13.00 | Cidan | hm |
| 07:13.08 | Tem | kd3, link me |
| 07:13.09 | Shirik | the program I'm working on is C++ |
| 07:13.11 | Cidan | no messages at all? |
| 07:13.26 | kd3 | http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t88/dankone_bucket/WoWScrnShot_021008_020928.jpg |
| 07:13.33 | kd3 | found on the PTR forum ^ |
| 07:13.42 | Cidan | do me a favor |
| 07:13.49 | Cidan | do ldd ./ArdunioAI |
| 07:13.54 | Shirik | I can't do a test right now unfortunately :/ |
| 07:13.58 | Cidan | oh |
| 07:14.00 | Cidan | :/ |
| 07:14.06 | Shirik | this was on my robot, it's still at teh school |
| 07:14.24 | Shirik | I actually did eventually find out why it's segfaulting, but that's not the point |
| 07:14.28 | Shirik | I need to be able to use gdb >< |
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| 07:15.03 | Kivin | heh someone kited the seasonal boss, omen, into orgrimmar |
| 07:15.08 | Cidan | That's odd though; try ldd on the executable, should tell you what links. You should at LEAST see messages that the libraries are found |
| 07:15.14 | Shirik | ok |
| 07:15.27 | Cidan | do you see that before you type run? |
| 07:15.37 | Cidan | Using... blah blah blah |
| 07:15.48 | Sixen | Hah |
| 07:16.24 | Cidan | Shirik: You can also enable core dumps and read from the core dump it self |
| 07:16.32 | Shirik | it said "core dumped" |
| 07:16.36 | Shirik | I have no idea what that means though :P |
| 07:16.45 | Shirik | Well I know what it means |
| 07:16.49 | Shirik | I have no idea where the hell it puts these dumps |
| 07:16.52 | Cidan | same as BSOD in windows when it dumps memory |
| 07:17.00 | Cidan | uhm, same directory |
| 07:17.09 | Shirik | I didn't see anything in there. Maybe it's hidden? |
| 07:17.14 | Cidan | ls -al |
| 07:18.26 | Cidan | you also need to make sure you set your envs |
| 07:18.30 | Cidan | so cores actually write |
| 07:18.47 | Cidan | ulimit -c |
| 07:18.57 | Cidan | if it returns 0, you won't write a core dump |
| 07:19.03 | Cidan | Shirik: Ping, read the above |
| 07:19.13 | Shirik | what is that o.o |
| 07:19.41 | Cidan | ulimit -c will return/set the size limit of core dumps |
| 07:19.47 | Cidan | by default it's 0 in most cases |
| 07:19.50 | Shirik | ah |
| 07:20.03 | Cidan | so do someting silly like ulimit -c 999999999 |
| 07:20.07 | Cidan | or whatever |
| 07:20.13 | Cidan | and you'll get a full dump |
| 07:20.21 | Cidan | that's in bytes, I believe |
| 07:20.24 | art3mis | into 1 cup? |
| 07:20.39 | Cidan | art3mis: Yes; for two girls to use. |
| 07:20.43 | art3mis | step is also yer gdb buddy |
| 07:21.37 | Shirik | step yelled at me |
| 07:21.45 | Shirik | and where told me nothing |
| 07:21.49 | Shirik | and yes I did compile with -g or whatever it was |
| 07:21.54 | Cidan | oh |
| 07:21.59 | Cidan | don't compile with -O |
| 07:22.04 | Cidan | GDB will hate you |
| 07:22.07 | Shirik | no other options than -g |
| 07:22.19 | art3mis | whee ive made about 3k ah cross faction sniping in the last 3 weeks |
| 07:22.20 | Shirik | and -D_NTOS in some cases |
| 07:22.21 | Cidan | also use Valgrind |
| 07:22.26 | Cidan | it's god-sent |
| 07:22.29 | Shirik | I almost did |
| 07:22.32 | Shirik | I've heard good things about it |
| 07:22.43 | Shirik | actually the problem was stupid though |
| 07:22.45 | art3mis | and dont forget to use the .core ;P |
| 07:22.59 | Shirik | FILE* f = fopen(port, "r+b") |
| 07:23.06 | art3mis | to get goodness back on why you suck |
| 07:23.11 | Shirik | fwrite(f, somestuff) |
| 07:23.20 | Shirik | without first checking that we were actually able to open that port >.> |
| 07:23.27 | Cidan | for anything that needs to be worked on server side, I have a script detect when the daemon crashes or whatever, then have it e-mail me the core file |
| 07:23.36 | Cidan | or otherwise rename/store the core file |
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| 07:28.23 | oreth | why would i get outpuyt #1.INF ? |
| 07:28.50 | oreth | wow |
| 07:28.53 | oreth | output of |
| 07:29.07 | Guillotine | 0/# |
| 07:29.21 | Guillotine | err |
| 07:29.23 | Guillotine | #/0 |
| 07:29.34 | oreth | yeah |
| 07:29.40 | oreth | i was returning 41/0/0 |
| 07:29.45 | oreth | but it should have been a string |
| 07:30.21 | Guillotine | make sure the / are in quotes |
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| 07:30.49 | Guillotine | and you're concatenating the strings instead of just putting it there |
| 07:40.41 | Shirik | (02:29:34) (oreth) i was returning 41/0/0 |
| 07:40.45 | Shirik | That is definitely not a number |
| 07:41.25 | Shirik | You would have to take the limit from a specific angle, but there are multiple answers so the general answer is undefined |
| 07:43.54 | Guillotine | err, I think he was trying to do talents |
| 07:44.14 | Guillotine | I thought that was why he said it should have been a string |
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| 07:59.04 | kd3 | bah. I should be going to sleep but one of the katamari damacy soundtracks is playing |
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| 08:22.40 | wereHamster | ~ptr |
| 08:22.40 | purl | rumour has it, ptr is pointer |
| 08:23.09 | wereHamster | .. and also public test realm, and I wanted a link where to d/l it |
| 08:25.18 | wereHamster | does anyone have the plain torrent file of the ptr client? |
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| 08:50.45 | Crysli | Alright, who's awake? |
| 08:51.15 | danshrugged | I'm barely awake, hi |
| 08:51.22 | Crysli | Hi. ^^ |
| 08:51.52 | Crysli | Living in Europe has its downsides, for example that no one's awake at this time. |
| 08:51.59 | Shirik | hi! |
| 08:52.29 | danshrugged | where in europe are you crysli? |
| 08:52.30 | cladhaire | except for the europeans :P |
| 08:52.49 | Crysli | Haha. I'm in Denmark. |
| 08:53.06 | Shirik | I'm not in europe :( |
| 08:53.17 | danshrugged | clad's awake, probably editing? |
| 08:53.26 | Crysli | nah, he's rowing. |
| 08:55.03 | clad|rowing | danshrugged: dont' have any chapters right now, which is frightening |
| 08:55.05 | clad|rowing | i've done 1-9 |
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| 08:55.07 | clad|rowing | and app a-f |
| 08:55.10 | danshrugged | so I'm new to the irc deal here, but why does ckk enter and leave like every 5 minutes? |
| 08:55.29 | clad|rowing | because his connection sucks |
| 08:55.33 | clad|rowing | it sucked in hawaii |
| 08:55.38 | clad|rowing | and now its almost worse in sf |
| 08:55.38 | danshrugged | frightening? dude that's fantastic! |
| 08:55.53 | danshrugged | haha |
| 08:55.55 | clad|rowing | danshrugged: no, there's about 900 pages I haven't received yet. |
| 08:56.03 | clad|rowing | so i would not classify that as "good" |
| 08:56.23 | danshrugged | ckknight: use the Apple network, the hotel's sucks balls |
| 08:56.24 | clad|rowing | ok, im off |
| 08:56.45 | danshrugged | clad: gnight |
| 08:56.46 | Crysli | Have fun. |
| 08:57.40 | danshrugged | has anyone played with gpslib? |
| 09:01.07 | Wobin__ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcV8jDOe6wk&feature=related |
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| 09:02.35 | Crysli | Did he just rockroll Fow News? |
| 09:02.40 | Crysli | rickroll |
| 09:03.04 | Crysli | I can't spell today |
| 09:03.53 | Wobin | Yes =P |
| 09:04.55 | Crysli | That's awesome. |
| 09:10.30 | Crysli | ...There's a guy on the Eu forums who seems to assume that if you can make a macro condition for stealth you can time spells so the GCD doesn't stop them. |
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| 09:30.22 | Crysli | Hi Rayne. |
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| 09:37.57 | Crysli | Hmm, the new vertical feature in pitBull is pretty cool. |
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| 10:11.17 | Fisker- | btw Bibi |
| 10:16.20 | RayneSleeps | My realms totally dead right now |
| 10:16.25 | RayneSleeps | I should probably go to bed |
| 10:16.47 | RayneSleeps | (btw when I said dead, offline, was lagged out for a good 20 minutes as each indiviual instance and zone server crashed) |
| 10:17.00 | Crysli | Aww. |
| 10:17.11 | Rayne | I was going to make a gnome tonight |
| 10:17.13 | Rayne | ;_; |
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| 10:17.20 | Crysli | Vertical PitBull == <3 |
| 10:18.39 | Rayne | I remember when someone first posted that in the post your UI thread |
| 10:18.50 | Rayne | Me and Jelly used to joke about it |
| 10:19.35 | Crysli | >=O |
| 10:20.59 | Crysli | No srsly, vertical castbars rock. |
| 10:21.11 | Rayne | never tried it |
| 10:21.18 | Rayne | the Healthbars just felt too hud-ish to me. |
| 10:21.24 | Rayne | well, look. |
| 10:21.59 | Bibi | Fisker- : ? |
| 10:22.11 | Rayne | Anyone in the northwestern canada / usa want kittens? |
| 10:22.19 | Rayne | Me and the wife think our females preg. |
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| 10:29.22 | Mallabus | mornin |
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| 10:31.10 | MentalPower | mornin |
| 10:32.08 | Crysli | Good morning. |
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| 10:36.43 | batrick | 03:33:34 < batrick> shirik has failed to break it for a long time now :) |
| 10:36.43 | batrick | 03:33:52 < Shirik> only a few weeks have gone by |
| 10:36.43 | batrick | 03:33:54 * batrick knows what shirik will be doing until morning. |
| 10:36.43 | batrick | 03:34:09 * Shirik totally did not just type /query batbot >.> |
| 10:37.15 | Shirik | hey, I found a bug I think |
| 10:37.19 | Shirik | not a "crashy" bug |
| 10:37.21 | Shirik | but a bug |
| 10:37.28 | Shirik | more of a typo really |
| 10:37.34 | Shirik | actually I think it's just a typo, but it's still a bug! |
| 10:38.32 | Shirik | batrick: did you hook setfenv? |
| 10:39.41 | batrick | I have to |
| 10:39.49 | batrick | if I want to protect _G functions |
| 10:40.13 | Shirik | I think you have a typo in your hook |
| 10:40.19 | Shirik | or something |
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| 10:41.57 | Shirik | batbot: setfenv(10, {}) |
| 10:42.05 | Shirik | --> setfenv(10, {}) |
| 10:42.05 | batbot | Shirik: @ ./sandbox.lua:207: bad argument #1 to 'lsetfenv' (invalid level) |
| 10:42.05 | batrick | it's --> here |
| 10:42.13 | batrick | so? |
| 10:42.14 | Shirik | note the l preceeding setfenv? |
| 10:42.20 | batrick | ya |
| 10:42.22 | batrick | that's intended |
| 10:42.25 | Shirik | what's that all about? |
| 10:42.37 | batrick | minimizing functions with upvalues |
| 10:42.48 | batrick | long story short ^ |
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| 10:43.04 | Shirik | imo pcall lsetfenv and then rethrow the error so the error appears to come from setfenv :P |
| 10:43.34 | batrick | meh |
| 10:43.55 | batrick | think you could write an interesting function to do that |
| 10:45.38 | batrick | --> blame = function(ok, err, ...) if not ok then error(err, 2) end end blame(pcall(setfenv, 10, {})) |
| 10:45.38 | batbot | batrick: @ [string " blame = function(ok, err, ...) if not ok t..."]:1: ./sandbox.lua:207: bad argument #1 to 'lsetfenv' (invalid level) |
| 10:46.24 | Shirik | the error message includes 'lsetfenv' :P |
| 10:47.01 | batrick | --> blame = function(ok, err, ...) if not ok then error(err, 2) else return err, ... end end blame(pcall(setfenv, 10, {})) |
| 10:47.01 | batbot | batrick: @ [string " blame = function(ok, err, ...) if not ok t..."]:1: ./sandbox.lua:207: bad argument #1 to 'lsetfenv' (invalid level) |
| 10:47.06 | batrick | hmm |
| 10:47.24 | batrick | I don't think I can remove the ./sandbox part |
| 10:47.40 | batrick | --> setfenv(10, {}) |
| 10:47.40 | batbot | batrick: @ ./sandbox.lua:207: bad argument #1 to 'lsetfenv' (invalid level) |
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| 11:00.11 | Crysli|cookies | Mmm.. Cookies =D |
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| 11:13.00 | art3mis | oh hey shirik |
| 11:13.32 | art3mis | http://www.rlslog.net/sandboxie-v322-incl-keymaker-embrace/ <-- you might find that interesting to play with |
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| 11:15.03 | art3mis | appearantly it's freeware |
| 11:15.16 | art3mis | the keygen just lets you register it which doesnt actually do anything ;P |
| 11:17.30 | Shirik | that's interesting art3mis |
| 11:17.31 | Shirik | thanks |
| 11:18.40 | art3mis | figured it would be fun to play with keyloggers in ;P |
| 11:19.05 | art3mis | although i am curious how much warden likes you running wow in it |
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| 12:35.21 | Crysli|cookies | I like how most of the activity here is ckknight leaving and joioning :P |
| 12:35.54 | Crysli|cookies | and I can't spell. |
| 12:36.24 | Shizen | Joion-ing sounds like an outer space colony trying to invade something |
| 12:36.55 | Shizen | also... I'm pondering applying for Square-Enix |
| 12:37.02 | Shizen | somebody tell me if I'm crazy or something >_> |
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| 12:41.33 | Neebler | only if you can speak and write japanese |
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| 12:47.57 | Shizen | Neebler : yes I can |
| 12:48.02 | Shizen | although not on a very native level |
| 12:48.07 | Shizen | I think I can pass JLPT1 or JLPT2 |
| 12:48.24 | Shizen | (though I'd need more practice with spoken >_>) |
| 12:49.14 | art3mis | if you go work at squarenix i expect lots of free swag |
| 12:50.47 | Shizen | nowai |
| 12:51.06 | Shizen | I'll give you a free test copy of the new upcoming S-E mmorpg though |
| 12:55.34 | art3mis | i think that counts as swag |
| 12:56.13 | art3mis | but im not sure how into a game im gonna get with 15min cut scenes for each spell or 45min cut scenes to tell a story i dont care about ;P |
| 12:56.24 | nevcairiel | hah |
| 12:58.45 | art3mis | <-- has been playing .hack GU too much lately |
| 12:59.21 | art3mis | anyone that said they beat ANY final fantasy game in under 3 days i lying btw ;P |
| 12:59.48 | art3mis | i would like for squarenix to make more moobies though |
| 12:59.56 | Shizen | well |
| 12:59.57 | art3mis | advent children was rpetty good |
| 13:00.05 | Shizen | assuming that new mmorpg would go out |
| 13:00.10 | Shizen | then |
| 13:00.17 | Shizen | there would be almost no cutscene for spells ;P |
| 13:00.24 | art3mis | heh |
| 13:00.35 | art3mis | id hate to see how THAT would be handled for a raid |
| 13:00.40 | Shizen | I've never seen an mmorpg with cutscene for spells anyway |
| 13:00.44 | art3mis | could you imagine that in wow terms? |
| 13:00.52 | Shizen | oh sure, like |
| 13:01.05 | Shizen | "Priest begins cast Prayers of Healing" |
| 13:01.08 | Shizen | *cutscene* |
| 13:01.13 | Shizen | *sparkling lights* |
| 13:01.16 | art3mis | the 4-6 hours a night for raiding would get you apst trash mobs ;P |
| 13:01.19 | Shizen | *angels flying down* |
| 13:01.22 | art3mis | past |
| 13:01.42 | art3mis | it certainly would cut down on the grinding needed ;P |
| 13:01.42 | foxlit | art3mis: but that completely negates the need for trash mobs |
| 13:01.43 | Shizen | *ring of light forming, slowly spreading out in grandiloque manner* |
| 13:01.54 | Shizen | foxlit : exactly, lol |
| 13:02.13 | art3mis | name me one FF boss fight that didnt have mobs leading up to it? |
| 13:02.22 | art3mis | where you went straight there and fought |
| 13:02.24 | art3mis | heh |
| 13:02.41 | art3mis | heh |
| 13:02.53 | Shizen | errr.... |
| 13:02.56 | art3mis | solo playing is now a 5 or 6 hour adventure |
| 13:03.00 | Shizen | Gilgamesh of FFXII |
| 13:03.05 | art3mis | 4 hours of which is casting spells |
| 13:03.08 | Shizen | (assuming you take some certain item in advance :P) |
| 13:03.22 | art3mis | to kill 20 mobs |
| 13:03.24 | Shizen | also FFXII don't have cutscenes for spells/actions |
| 13:03.26 | art3mis | that would be awesome! |
| 13:03.32 | art3mis | really? |
| 13:03.36 | Shizen | yes, really |
| 13:03.41 | Shizen | it does have castbar/delaybar, though |
| 13:03.43 | art3mis | hrm i might have to play it then |
| 13:03.44 | Shizen | but that's miniscule |
| 13:03.55 | Shizen | FFXII plays almost like an mmorpg |
| 13:04.06 | art3mis | i stopped 2 after the espers started showing up |
| 13:04.16 | art3mis | whatever that was |
| 13:04.19 | Shizen | 2 ? |
| 13:04.21 | Shizen | espers ? |
| 13:04.27 | Shizen | espers was in 6 |
| 13:04.35 | art3mis | so i stopped with 8 |
| 13:04.42 | art3mis | 6 + 2 == |
| 13:04.42 | Shizen | oh |
| 13:04.47 | Shizen | 2 after... |
| 13:05.02 | Shizen | I thought you 'stopped 2' 'after the espers started showing up' |
| 13:05.06 | art3mis | heh |
| 13:05.15 | Shizen | see how lack of punctuation can make a sentence be misinterpreted ? |
| 13:05.19 | art3mis | yeah 8bitpixel cutscenes drove me crazy |
| 13:05.30 | Shizen | dude |
| 13:05.34 | art3mis | you just need to spend more time on the internet |
| 13:05.44 | Shizen | it's because that game was supposed to be played when 8-bit was the "OMG AWESOME" phenomena |
| 13:05.57 | Shizen | you totally lost the vibe on that one |
| 13:06.01 | art3mis | heh nah |
| 13:06.09 | art3mis | i was playing ultima on my c64 ;P |
| 13:06.14 | Shizen | even I still remember the vibe back then |
| 13:06.15 | art3mis | FF had NOTHING on ultim |
| 13:06.16 | art3mis | a |
| 13:06.19 | Shizen | errr |
| 13:06.23 | Shizen | true |
| 13:06.23 | art3mis | or bards tale |
| 13:06.26 | Shizen | Lord Britis is awesome |
| 13:06.27 | art3mis | or wizardy |
| 13:06.30 | Shizen | *Lord British |
| 13:06.45 | art3mis | he's a visionary thats for sure |
| 13:06.45 | Shizen | but Final Fantasy is the saving title that saved Square from bankruptcy |
| 13:06.50 | art3mis | even his new mmo is odd |
| 13:06.52 | Shizen | and it IS an awesome series |
| 13:06.57 | art3mis | yet strangely fun appearantly |
| 13:07.09 | Shizen | (though unfortunately, that same title brought about their downfall many years later) |
| 13:07.20 | art3mis | X-2 ? |
| 13:07.22 | art3mis | heh |
| 13:07.24 | Shizen | nope |
| 13:07.29 | Shizen | The Spirits Within |
| 13:07.29 | art3mis | and thier video game girls dancing ads |
| 13:07.37 | art3mis | i liked that movie |
| 13:07.47 | art3mis | i still watch it in complete amazement |
| 13:07.50 | Shizen | that's the movie that single-handedly pushed Square to the brink of destruction |
| 13:07.57 | Shizen | it would be awesome |
| 13:07.57 | Wobin | It's still a very pretty movie |
| 13:08.02 | Shizen | if it was "The Spirits Within" |
| 13:08.03 | art3mis | i think they made a mistke using the FF name |
| 13:08.09 | Shizen | tagging it with "Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within" |
| 13:08.11 | Wobin | and still executed a lot better than most game->movie franchises |
| 13:08.11 | Shizen | is what killed it |
| 13:08.12 | art3mis | yup |
| 13:08.15 | Shizen | and Square, in the process |
| 13:08.32 | Shizen | now if they had made Advent Children first, Spirits Within later |
| 13:08.35 | Shizen | it would so much more bombing |
| 13:08.39 | Wobin | They clearly should have had Uwe Bolle directing =P |
| 13:08.41 | Shizen | in the good way |
| 13:08.42 | art3mis | there are parts in that movie that i still have to remind myself arent real people |
| 13:08.49 | Shizen | lol yes |
| 13:08.54 | Shizen | the animations are that awesome indeed |
| 13:09.06 | Shizen | though some of it are still a bit 'robotic' in my eyes |
| 13:09.10 | art3mis | but the whole never dirty perfect clothes thing always brings me back |
| 13:09.24 | Shizen | especially that old bald professor guy |
| 13:09.29 | art3mis | heh |
| 13:09.45 | art3mis | ya know whats funny |
| 13:09.51 | art3mis | and it never occurred until just now |
| 13:10.07 | art3mis | black people ALWAYS look more realistic cgi'd than white people do |
| 13:10.19 | Shizen | it depends |
| 13:10.25 | art3mis | not really |
| 13:10.28 | Shizen | oh wait, white people, ye |
| 13:10.35 | art3mis | compare all the good aprts of sw |
| 13:10.43 | art3mis | they all have the big black guy |
| 13:10.54 | art3mis | and all the bad parts have white people |
| 13:11.15 | art3mis | it's wierd |
| 13:12.18 | art3mis | i feel so dirty |
| 13:12.27 | art3mis | i reinstalled xp yesterday |
| 13:12.34 | art3mis | and i switched to the "silver" theme |
| 13:12.44 | art3mis | and i actually like how my desktop looks now |
| 13:12.51 | Wobin | shame =P |
| 13:13.00 | art3mis | i know |
| 13:13.11 | art3mis | well im using widnowsfx and objectdock |
| 13:13.16 | Shizen | !!! |
| 13:13.22 | art3mis | and bblean |
| 13:13.23 | Shizen | we get to see Kalec'Gos ?? |
| 13:13.26 | Shizen | like.... |
| 13:13.30 | art3mis | so i pretend its nix/osx |
| 13:13.34 | Shizen | why is Tyri not in the fight :O |
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| 13:13.37 | foxlit | In other words, osX for the unfortunate |
| 13:13.48 | art3mis | foxlit: ive got leopard on ehre too ;P |
| 13:13.50 | art3mis | here |
| 13:14.15 | foxlit | But is it an actual mac? |
| 13:14.17 | art3mis | osx desktop would be better if a) it didnt always make desktop links for you for every drive and fodler |
| 13:14.27 | Wobin | http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/3473/bucketbe3.jpg |
| 13:14.27 | art3mis | b) it had wobbly windows |
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| 13:14.35 | art3mis | c) it have amouse menu |
| 13:14.37 | Shizen | install compiz on it ;P |
| 13:14.51 | foxlit | "mouse menu"? |
| 13:15.00 | art3mis | right click on the desktop |
| 13:15.02 | art3mis | nix style |
| 13:15.15 | art3mis | instead of that gay menubar thingy on the top |
| 13:15.25 | art3mis | and no it's not a real mac |
| 13:15.27 | art3mis | its better |
| 13:15.36 | foxlit | (a) I'm sorry. |
| 13:15.41 | art3mis | no 1 size fits all hardware bullcrap |
| 13:15.45 | foxlit | (b) You may want to look at the interface more closely. |
| 13:16.21 | [Liquidor] | Someone tell me your realm and name (US) |
| 13:16.29 | art3mis | plus my amd64x2 out performs most macs ;P |
| 13:16.37 | Shizen | Khiara Khaz Modan US |
| 13:16.46 | [Liquidor] | You gotta have a set piece on. |
| 13:16.51 | Shizen | o.O ? |
| 13:16.51 | art3mis | Rozalyn Echo Isles |
| 13:17.06 | art3mis | full shadowweave ;P |
| 13:17.21 | Shizen | full blue gears... |
| 13:17.26 | art3mis | heh |
| 13:17.34 | [Liquidor] | Thanks art3mis |
| 13:17.39 | art3mis | yup |
| 13:18.12 | Shizen | aha! |
| 13:18.17 | [Liquidor] | Just needed data on the set: http://www.wowarmory.com/item-tooltip.xml?i=21871&r=Echo+Isles&n=Rozalyn |
| 13:18.34 | foxlit | What are you doing, [Liquidor]? |
| 13:18.42 | foxlit | (gr, [ breaks autocompletion) |
| 13:18.56 | [Liquidor] | heh |
| 13:19.15 | art3mis | ooo perty |
| 13:19.33 | [Liquidor] | foxlit, http://armory.artoman.com/item-search.php?i=Frozen+Shadoweave+Robe |
| 13:19.43 | [Liquidor] | Although latest tooltip version isn't online |
| 13:20.09 | foxlit | just tooltip parsing? |
| 13:20.21 | [Liquidor] | ye |
| 13:20.37 | [Liquidor] | I'm almost done. Just missing the last part (setData) |
| 13:20.45 | Shizen | w00t character copied ! |
| 13:20.53 | Shizen | time to waitz |
| 13:21.12 | [Liquidor] | PTR up? |
| 13:21.19 | art3mis | does it show a stilpine defender in my offhand for everyone else? |
| 13:21.20 | [Liquidor] | (haven't played for a week) |
| 13:21.52 | [Liquidor] | Yes art3mis, the version online is from when I created 2nd and 3rd tooltip frames. |
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| 13:22.07 | [Liquidor] | Hmm lemme upload some. |
| 13:22.18 | nevcairiel | it also doesnt show the green texts of the items |
| 13:22.22 | nevcairiel | like +dmg |
| 13:22.29 | art3mis | awww |
| 13:22.34 | art3mis | i kinna like having a shield |
| 13:23.00 | [Liquidor] | art3mis, refresh |
| 13:23.11 | [Liquidor] | nevcairiel, it was an old version |
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| 13:23.25 | nevcairiel | thats better :P |
| 13:23.26 | [Liquidor] | hmm doubleline on Equip it seems |
| 13:24.11 | Crysli|cookies | Well, I'm off to Berlin now. You guys behave while I'm gone. |
| 13:24.21 | [Liquidor] | When im done with the tooltip I gotta create the item filters (damn that'll take time) |
| 13:25.08 | Shizen | hee hee |
| 13:26.17 | Codayus | [Liquidor]: If you're looking for bug reports, an item with spell hit shows "16 bonusHitSpellRating". For example, spellstrike items. |
| 13:26.29 | Codayus | Same with spell crit. |
| 13:26.47 | [Liquidor] | Thanks Codayus, however in that case only I'm aware of it. |
| 13:27.04 | [Liquidor] | All bonuses ain't localized yet |
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| 13:27.18 | [Liquidor] | Too many of them to bother with that at that time |
| 13:27.29 | Codayus | Hmm, nifty tool. |
| 13:28.34 | [Liquidor] | If you like, go fetch the strings yourself :) http://www.wowarmory.com/strings/en_us/strings.xml |
| 13:29.27 | [Liquidor] | Search for armory.item-tooltip.increase-defense and go from there |
| 13:30.10 | Maldivia | grr... limbo day... |
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| 13:52.38 | [Liquidor] | art3mis, http://armory.artoman.com/item-search.php?i=Frozen+Shadoweave+Robe does the set data look right to you? |
| 14:00.40 | Maldivia | art3mis: not that kind of limbo :) |
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| 14:04.00 | cladhaire | so can someone explain to me why Dock is "Revolutionary"? |
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| 14:09.33 | [Liquidor] | Codayus, fixed: http://armory.artoman.com/item-search.php?i=spellstrike |
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| 14:14.58 | Furl | ClickSpellByName() was removed? |
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| 14:19.44 | Furl | "Interface\FrameXML\SecureTemplates.lua:276: attempt to call global 'ClickSpellByName' (a nil value):" |
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| 14:23.47 | foxlit | was that ever a function? |
| 14:24.34 | foxlit | sounds like an odd typo of Cast* |
| 14:29.31 | Furl | WoWwiki has it listed under globals |
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| 14:30.56 | foxlit | It's not present in 2.3 |
| 14:31.07 | Lopeppeppy | Thanks |Jelly|, I needed some positive interaction! |
| 14:31.15 | |Jelly| | :) |
| 14:31.36 | foxlit | The global function list hasn't been updated for ages |
| 14:32.12 | foxlit | Or not, it's supposed to be 2.3.0 |
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| 14:36.42 | foxlit | Hah. |
| 14:36.52 | foxlit | I can't actually fly from Astranaar to Emerald Sanctuary |
| 14:37.41 | Lopeppeppy | Why not? |
| 14:39.33 | Legorol | don't have one of the FPs? |
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| 14:40.02 | foxlit | Nah, odd, really |
| 14:40.12 | foxlit | Clicking seemed to do nothing until I closed and reopened the dialog |
| 14:41.02 | Lopeppeppy | That happens to me sometimes too, the NPC gets "stuck" somehow. |
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| 14:43.17 | zenzelezz | they just want to get to know you better |
| 14:43.32 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr. Click me baby one more time. |
| 14:43.34 | zenzelezz | not fun to have people run up to you all the time only to fly away, never making small chat |
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| 14:54.27 | Industrial | VERY NSFW AND ANOYING: new 2.4 changes: http://sourpatch.org |
| 14:54.48 | Fisker- | fuck you |
| 14:55.15 | Industrial | ^______________^ |
| 14:56.12 | foxlit | And that is why onunload javascript deserves to die |
| 14:56.25 | zenzelezz | noscript ftw |
| 14:56.30 | zenzelezz | also, Industrial-- for the effort |
| 14:56.40 | foxlit | ~Industrial-- |
| 14:56.41 | foxlit | ? |
| 14:57.12 | zenzelezz | I don't care about the actual karma value, it's just a statement |
| 14:57.34 | Industrial | well I warned you |
| 14:57.49 | zenzelezz | like I said, noscript took care of it |
| 14:58.11 | wereHamster | what's the problem with you people lately? On slashdot the same, people post links to nsfw sites that create lots of popups and are impossible to leave. why? |
| 14:58.12 | zenzelezz | but what the others said was enough to figure it's another stupid site that's oh so funny to link because you win the internet that way |
| 14:59.22 | wereHamster | you at least warned us, but other just post the links disguised as something else, something worthwile reading |
| 15:00.12 | Industrial | I know this channels' rules, and I think what I did was funny. I dodn't cause any harm (maybe some mental)... |
| 15:00.24 | zenzelezz | no-one said you broke any rules |
| 15:02.38 | clad|away | so. |
| 15:02.41 | clad|away | can anyone explain to me |
| 15:02.47 | cladhaire | why when people bind a spell to right-click |
| 15:02.50 | cladhaire | and as a result can no longer |
| 15:02.54 | cladhaire | .. right-click to open the menu |
| 15:02.58 | cladhaire | they think its a "bug"? |
| 15:03.02 | cladhaire | or a "problem" |
| 15:03.12 | Codayus | Heavy metals in the drinking water. |
| 15:03.35 | cladhaire | me: "Clique did exactly what you told it to. Perhaps you should tell it to do something different, if you don't want that to happen" |
| 15:03.48 | widgertick | No comment. |
| 15:04.05 | widgertick | I realize no comment is a comment. |
| 15:04.11 | cladhaire | ~fail widgertick |
| 15:04.11 | purl | widgertick: Fail. |
| 15:04.13 | Codayus | Or more seriously, people do not tend to think things through. It's not working like they wish it would, so it's a bug. Of course, what they wish it would do is read their minds, but they haven't got that far. It's perfectly normal human behaviour. |
| 15:04.18 | widgertick | However, no comment is a comment with a specific meaning, and that's what I was attempting to confer. |
| 15:04.44 | widgertick | LOL |
| 15:04.49 | widgertick | That's awesome Codayus |
| 15:05.10 | widgertick | Thanks to you, I have a new way to categorize people. |
| 15:05.16 | Beladona | sheeple? |
| 15:05.35 | cladhaire | Thor'idal is fucking hot. |
| 15:06.00 | Codayus | What's frustrating is when you see this applied to politics. "I would like the government to increase entitlements, cut taxes, and run a balanced budget!" |
| 15:06.03 | widgertick | Programmers are people who think something's bugged when it doesn't work as they intended it to. |
| 15:06.03 | Fisker- | got pics? |
| 15:06.20 | widgertick | Users are people who think something's bugged when it doesn't work the way they want it to. |
| 15:06.22 | Beladona | you know |
| 15:06.27 | cladhaire | lets not discuss taxes |
| 15:06.33 | Beladona | a Legendary bow can't be good for pvp |
| 15:06.39 | Beladona | lol |
| 15:06.42 | cladhaire | i'm currently fighting for the government to ALLOW me to borrow money |
| 15:07.01 | Codayus | Beladona: Actually, it shouldn't have much impact... The big DPS increase comes from steady shot... |
| 15:07.02 | widgertick | Clad, let me save you some time. |
| 15:07.18 | widgertick | You're screwed. |
| 15:07.20 | widgertick | Give up. |
| 15:07.22 | Codayus | Which is not an uber pvp ability. |
| 15:07.24 | Beladona | I sitll want a legandary mace |
| 15:07.27 | Beladona | healing mace |
| 15:07.28 | widgertick | <3 |
| 15:07.30 | Beladona | I mean seriously |
| 15:07.33 | cladhaire | 1st) Oxford doesn't believe me that I'm taxed on my stipend, because "No one else has ever had this problem" |
| 15:07.42 | cladhaire | my response: "Just because everyone else evades their taxes doesn't mean I'm going to" |
| 15:07.49 | Lopeppeppy | I just want a healing mace... |
| 15:07.58 | cladhaire | 2nd) I'm losing over $3000 of my stipend on taxes alone |
| 15:07.59 | Beladona | ZA |
| 15:08.03 | cladhaire | I'm entitled to a $1500 refund without it |
| 15:08.04 | Beladona | or Vashj |
| 15:08.07 | cladhaire | and I owe $1500 with it |
| 15:08.08 | Codayus | Dagger > mace. |
| 15:08.19 | Lopeppeppy | Paladin != dagger |
| 15:08.24 | Beladona | shammies love the maces though |
| 15:08.28 | Codayus | Priest > paladin. |
| 15:08.34 | Lopeppeppy | Nopers. *grin* |
| 15:08.54 | Codayus | Let me get a second opinion. |
| 15:09.07 | Codayus | ...sorry, my cat agrees with me. |
| 15:09.09 | Beladona | I can't speak for that |
| 15:09.16 | widgertick | Bela: Maybe he's talking about DPS |
| 15:09.19 | Beladona | every Paladin in our guild pwns all our priests |
| 15:09.20 | widgertick | In that case, Priest > Paladin |
| 15:09.23 | Codayus | He clearly purred louder when I said "priest" than when I said "paladin". |
| 15:09.30 | Beladona | well, in healing |
| 15:10.18 | Legorol | does anyone else have this problem: char copy page claims it succeeded, but char is not on the PTR yet |
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| 15:10.51 | Maldivia | Legorol: yep, same here |
| 15:11.10 | Lopeppeppy | They were quoting times of 3 days yesterday, so just be patient. |
| 15:12.20 | Maldivia | "Average Wait Time: 8 days" on the char copy page for EU at the moment |
| 15:12.51 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah. I'm not freakin' out just yet to not have toons. |
| 15:13.20 | Codayus | Of course, when it DOES copy, you'll probably get someones elses character. |
| 15:13.34 | Codayus | Apparently it's been bugging out quite comprehensively. |
| 15:13.42 | Lopeppeppy | Sexah. |
| 15:13.48 | Maldivia | well, I just made a level 1 char, to play around with the combat log :) |
| 15:13.53 | Fisker- | lets all sue |
| 15:13.55 | Codayus | Transfer a T6 warrior, end up with a kara equipped druid... |
| 15:14.15 | Lopeppeppy | As long as I get some flavor of paladin, I can live with it. |
| 15:14.28 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 15:14.43 | Fisker- | paladins are just as shitty in karazhan gear as they are in black temple gear |
| 15:14.44 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 15:15.00 | [Liquidor] | Anyone know of an item having Unique-Equippable? |
| 15:15.19 | Maldivia | most jewlcraftable rings are |
| 15:16.32 | foxlit | ["maxCount/uniqueEquippable"]="|unique-eq=%s", |
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| 16:13.04 | Legorol | i don't mind what character gets copied for me, as long as it's 70 |
| 16:13.10 | Legorol | i want to go have a look at the isle |
| 16:16.45 | Lopeppeppy | I got copied, copied right, and in. |
| 16:18.30 | zenzelezz | you bribed them with cookies? |
| 16:18.54 | |pez| | mm, cookies. |
| 16:19.08 | |pez| | I want brownies. |
| 16:19.11 | |pez| | desperatly. |
| 16:19.26 | |pez| | Need to buy some easy-to-make brownie thingie tomorrow. |
| 16:21.25 | Beladona | does the copy status page ever show copes from previous ptr's? |
| 16:21.39 | [Liquidor] | Nope |
| 16:21.43 | Beladona | grr |
| 16:21.45 | [Liquidor] | Resets |
| 16:21.52 | Beladona | mine says successful -- but its not |
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| 16:23.28 | oreth | is there a good tutorial on mouse positioning ? |
| 16:23.46 | oreth | er... posistioning frames on near the mouse? |
| 16:23.55 | oreth | my god... i can't type thos mornignign |
| 16:24.14 | |pez| | No, no you can't. |
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| 16:41.38 | [Liquidor] | Tooltip finally done <3 http://armory.artoman.com/item-search.php?i=defender |
| 16:42.27 | cladhaire | [Liquidor]: whats this website for/do? |
| 16:42.35 | oreth | ... |
| 16:42.51 | oreth | http://armory.artoman.com/item-search.php?i=Vindicator |
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| 16:43.17 | oreth | I'd say it's pretty obvious what it does |
| 16:43.18 | [Liquidor] | oreth, try http://armory.artoman.com/item-search.php?i= then |
| 16:43.29 | oreth | it worked, completely fine |
| 16:43.54 | oreth | You know what would be really cool? |
| 16:43.58 | [Liquidor] | Took a couple of hours to create the parser |
| 16:44.00 | oreth | suggestive typing on that site |
| 16:44.15 | [Liquidor] | Will be there |
| 16:44.20 | oreth | awesome |
| 16:44.27 | [Liquidor] | I just thought today I would spend all day on the tooltip |
| 16:44.47 | oreth | I'm working on a mod right now, but I don't know how many people would use it |
| 16:45.03 | sacarasc | hmmm, seems EU login server is dead ;\ |
| 16:45.04 | oreth | as it requires you to run a program to update the information in it |
| 16:46.10 | dylanm | Stick a comment in the lua that says "loggin dem keyz" and create your own forums madness. |
| 16:46.29 | oreth | it's actually a python script that writes the lua |
| 16:46.37 | sacarasc | and it's back |
| 16:47.04 | oreth | dylan: i wrote an AIM client that accepts "Character on Realm" and spits back basic armory info |
| 16:47.17 | oreth | i posted it on the wow forums and they were like "ZOMG LOGGER" |
| 16:47.26 | oreth | and I never posted it on EJ :( |
| 16:47.29 | oreth | i probably should have |
| 16:49.23 | [Liquidor] | I got 1.500 items cached |
| 16:49.26 | [Liquidor] | Not bad |
| 16:49.56 | oreth | check it out |
| 16:49.58 | oreth | message |
| 16:50.00 | oreth | wowarmory on aim |
| 16:50.07 | oreth | with "knikon on kel'thuzad" for example |
| 16:50.09 | [Liquidor] | I don't even have aim |
| 16:50.26 | [Liquidor] | aim in EU = noway |
| 16:50.29 | Sixen | What's the point of writing another armory...? |
| 16:50.37 | Sixen | There's an official one, which everyone will use. |
| 16:50.46 | oreth | sixen: the official armory is slow and buggy |
| 16:51.08 | oreth | simplifying the interface, is a great way to speed it up |
| 16:51.16 | [Liquidor] | the EU one can't be used by half of EU (they messed something up) and on this one I'm adding my armory tools as well |
| 16:51.17 | oreth | like, forexample, wowhead's item search |
| 16:52.01 | Sixen | I see. |
| 16:52.13 | cncfanatics | could someone run tracert 81.241.72.1 |
| 16:52.14 | cncfanatics | for me ? |
| 16:52.18 | cncfanatics | and pastey me the result |
| 16:52.53 | Shirik | tracert is a horrible tool |
| 16:52.56 | [Liquidor] | I'm working on ArenaStats, Rep Calc, Character Profiling, Talent Calc, Arena Calc and for later some leveling stuff. |
| 16:52.59 | Shirik | rarely should it be used |
| 16:53.04 | wereHamster | can't someone periodically copy the items from the wowarmory and set up mirrors? |
| 16:53.10 | cncfanatics | Shirik: it can be useful when a server on your way to the inet is lagging |
| 16:53.15 | Shirik | no it can't |
| 16:53.17 | cncfanatics | Shirik: and I'm suspecting that particular server |
| 16:53.18 | Shirik | pathping can be useful |
| 16:53.22 | Shirik | tracert can be crap |
| 16:53.31 | Sixen | Pathping? |
| 16:53.31 | cncfanatics | pathping ? |
| 16:53.36 | [Liquidor] | ... |
| 16:53.39 | [Liquidor] | pathping? |
| 16:53.58 | Shirik | pathping will trace the route and then analyze the path over a period of time, usually about 5 minutes |
| 16:54.02 | [Liquidor] | !google pathping |
| 16:54.02 | batbot | [Liquidor]: Using Pathping <http://www.windowsnetworking.com/articles_tutorials/Using-Pathping.html> |
| 16:54.22 | cncfanatics | windows, I'm not on windows :p |
| 16:54.40 | cncfanatics | someone just tracert said server please |
| 16:54.50 | [Liquidor] | kk |
| 16:55.09 | Shirik | I already did and I see no problems |
| 16:55.18 | Shirik | but I'll paste it for your amusement |
| 16:55.34 | Shirik | I take it back I see a problem |
| 16:55.35 | oreth | is there a good tooltip tutorial? |
| 16:55.45 | oreth | (in-game tool tip) |
| 16:56.07 | cncfanatics | Shirik: 900ms response time being one ? |
| 16:56.07 | [Liquidor] | tutorial for what? |
| 16:56.22 | oreth | [Liquidor]: i want information to show at the mouse |
| 16:56.24 | Shirik | pathping will confirm this, but car1.Orlando.Level3.net looks suspicious. No no 900ms response time |
| 16:56.25 | cncfanatics | here's mine, http://www.pastebin.ca/898803 |
| 16:56.27 | oreth | in a frame. |
| 16:56.50 | cncfanatics | Shirik: see any problems in mine ? :) |
| 16:56.52 | [Liquidor] | anchor it |
| 16:57.25 | kd3 | damn it all... first thing I do is log on. "yay! realms are up! bah. retr. character list" |
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| 17:00.10 | [Liquidor] | lol http://armory.artoman.com/character-search.php?n=Character |
| 17:00.18 | [Liquidor] | didn't know you could name yourself Character |
| 17:00.33 | cncfanatics | http://www.pastebin.ca/898807 .. this sucks :( |
| 17:00.35 | cncfanatics | check the ping :p |
| 17:01.01 | [Liquidor] | lol |
| 17:01.06 | [Liquidor] | who's 81...? you? |
| 17:01.14 | wereHamster | character copy, average wait time: 8 days wtf?? |
| 17:01.15 | cncfanatics | my isp's server |
| 17:01.24 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/81990 |
| 17:01.27 | cncfanatics | [Liquidor]: which means I'm fucked, basicly |
| 17:01.28 | Shirik | looks perfectly fine to me |
| 17:01.34 | [Liquidor] | cncfanatics, blows |
| 17:01.39 | cncfanatics | Shirik: check mine |
| 17:01.43 | Shirik | I saw yours |
| 17:01.53 | Shirik | that tells me your hardware is going bad somewhere |
| 17:02.03 | cncfanatics | its either my router or the server |
| 17:02.05 | [Liquidor] | Oh |
| 17:02.09 | cncfanatics | seeing as your ping is fine, it must be my router |
| 17:02.10 | [Liquidor] | My IRC client got a ping script |
| 17:02.14 | [Liquidor] | just pinged cncfanatics |
| 17:02.26 | cncfanatics | [Liquidor]: tel me |
| 17:02.28 | [Liquidor] | avg ms: 453 |
| 17:02.41 | Shirik | though pathping does confirm my suspicions about that orlando server :P |
| 17:02.46 | [Liquidor] | min 415ms, max 493ms |
| 17:02.46 | cncfanatics | [Liquidor]: mind pathpinging me ? |
| 17:03.02 | ckknight_ | anyone have any luck with the US PTR? |
| 17:03.07 | Shirik | (12:02:46) -› [CTCP to cncfanatics]: PING |
| 17:03.07 | Shirik | (12:02:48) -› [CTCP PING reply from cncfanatics]: reply took 1.796s |
| 17:03.07 | [Liquidor] | checking tut |
| 17:03.07 | Shirik | rofl |
| 17:03.08 | kd3 | ckk; I just got on |
| 17:03.20 | [Liquidor] | PTR up now? |
| 17:03.23 | kd3 | cancel out a few times, you'll eventually get the char list |
| 17:03.25 | ckknight | kd3: I'm getting an error retrieving character list |
| 17:03.26 | [Liquidor] | (haven't played for a week) |
| 17:03.28 | cncfanatics | Shirik: can you run a pathping on me ? |
| 17:03.36 | Shirik | I would need your address |
| 17:03.43 | kd3 | try creating lvl1s, etc... |
| 17:03.48 | Shirik | and your router would need to accept pings |
| 17:04.05 | cncfanatics | it does |
| 17:07.12 | [Liquidor] | damn im hungry |
| 17:07.18 | [Liquidor] | pizza or chicken? |
| 17:07.39 | Lopeppeppy | Chicken. |
| 17:10.27 | Cidan | * The In-game Interface Options screen is being revamped and the new architecture should allow AddOn authors to modify its contents without the taint issues presented by the current system. Additionally this system will contain an area for AddOn authors to present their own configuration options. Authors interested in this feature should be sure to experiment on the PTRs before patch 2.4 is released so that any issues can be surfaced and discuss |
| 17:10.34 | Cidan | ohshi? |
| 17:10.37 | Cidan | When did this come around? |
| 17:10.50 | Lopeppeppy | Spiffy patch 2.4ness! |
| 17:10.51 | zenzelezz | week or two ago |
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| 17:13.35 | foxlit | Is it still a full-screen thing? |
| 17:15.26 | Cidan | hm |
| 17:15.30 | Cidan | I may or may not use it. |
| 17:16.14 | foxlit | If so, it go go and jump into its own corner! |
| 17:16.33 | cladhaire | heh |
| 17:17.45 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 17:17.54 | cncfanatics | my latency issues just fixed themselves |
| 17:18.00 | cncfanatics | back to 23ms from 900 |
| 17:19.59 | Maldivia | hmm... who here haev EU accounts? |
| 17:20.05 | cladhaire | i do |
| 17:20.20 | Maldivia | you ever post on the EU forums? |
| 17:20.25 | cladhaire | no |
| 17:20.52 | cncfanatics | anyone that knows a lot about networks, what could cause your ping to increase by 900 for 3 hours and then go back to normal ? |
| 17:21.02 | Lopeppeppy | Someone torrenting something? |
| 17:21.10 | cladhaire | torrents choking your router |
| 17:21.11 | Thunder_Child | many many things |
| 17:21.25 | cncfanatics | not downloading anything |
| 17:21.28 | cncfanatics | compare both |
| 17:21.39 | cncfanatics | http://www.pastebin.ca/898815 vs http://www.pastebin.ca/898819 |
| 17:21.47 | cncfanatics | my router is the last server on the hop |
| 17:22.13 | Maldivia | cladhaire: ok - ust because it seems I'm on forum-limbo today :| |
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| 17:22.34 | Maldivia | but guess it can wait until tomorrow :) |
| 17:22.45 | Cidan | cncfanatics: It really could be anything. |
| 17:23.01 | Thunder_Child | no many posibilitys not enough info |
| 17:23.01 | [Liquidor] | I play on the EU servers, however all my accounts are frozen :P |
| 17:23.13 | Thunder_Child | s/no/to/ |
| 17:23.39 | cncfanatics | http://www.pastebin.ca/898807 is a tracert from me to my isp's server, also a ping from me to my isp's server |
| 17:23.42 | cncfanatics | the pings are just weird |
| 17:23.47 | cncfanatics | fluctuates WAY too much |
| 17:24.40 | Shirik | it's also on your subnet and shouldn't be 800ms |
| 17:24.48 | Shirik | I can contact europe faster than 800ms |
| 17:24.55 | cncfanatics | yea I know :p |
| 17:24.58 | cncfanatics | its back to 23 ms now though |
| 17:25.02 | cncfanatics | I'm just wondering how this could happen |
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| 17:26.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | wow, 4chan's really putting forth some effort into this scientology thing |
| 17:26.11 | oreth | yeah |
| 17:27.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/276/1202661342771yo4.jpg |
| 17:27.25 | Shirik | hmmm I'm using my headphones as desktop speakers right now |
| 17:27.29 | Shirik | I can't believe they can get this loud |
| 17:27.38 | zenzelezz | "* Monstrous Kaliri have learned how to chase players going straight up." -- lol |
| 17:27.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's london |
| 17:27.42 | Industrial | cool |
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| 17:28.15 | oreth | holy geez |
| 17:28.26 | Shirik | >>> debug |
| 17:28.32 | Cide | Shirik: { ["traceback"] = function: 0018AA88 } (#1) |
| 17:28.41 | Shirik | :< |
| 17:29.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Ha |
| 17:30.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Do we have a guild yet? |
| 17:30.27 | cncfanatics | what PTR is everyone in btw ? |
| 17:30.32 | cncfanatics | US one ? |
| 17:30.48 | Thunder_Child | Mr_Rabies2, are those mask from v for vendetta? |
| 17:30.51 | ScytheBlade1 | We only have the option for the US one |
| 17:30.56 | Shirik | I guess I had better go get the PTR client |
| 17:31.07 | Shirik | kd3: Halp me I dun know hao to get ptrz |
| 17:31.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | yes, Thunder_Child |
| 17:31.19 | kd3 | FOAD |
| 17:31.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | /b/ has taken those into its collective and used it for its own |
| 17:31.35 | Shirik | ~wtf foad |
| 17:31.39 | Shirik | lol |
| 17:31.47 | kd3 | that's the clean version |
| 17:33.42 | Shirik | The character copy queue is currently full. Please check back later. We apologize for any inconvenience cause and thank you for your understanding. |
| 17:33.45 | Shirik | :< |
| 17:34.01 | cncfanatics | Shirik: owned |
| 17:34.49 | Maldivia | Shirik: EU or US? |
| 17:34.55 | Shirik | us |
| 17:35.07 | Maldivia | ok, EU has been like that since yesterday afternoon |
| 17:35.33 | Thunder_Child | wow...so damn geeky http://gizmodo.com/354701/nothing-says-i-love-you-like-led-pasties |
| 17:35.41 | Maldivia | Shirik: estimated wait time for EU is 8 days :) |
| 17:35.57 | oreth | how do I write out to a file from wow? |
| 17:36.11 | Maldivia | you can't |
| 17:36.15 | Thunder_Child | cant except fot sv file |
| 17:36.27 | oreth | then how does my chat logger work? |
| 17:36.46 | Cide | blizzard can, we can't |
| 17:37.06 | oreth | ok, how do I write out to a saved variable file? |
| 17:37.33 | Iriel | oreth: You declare a (non local) variable saved, and then you exit wow cleanly |
| 17:37.37 | Iriel | oreth: WoW saves the file for you |
| 17:37.48 | oreth | ok, sure. |
| 17:37.49 | oreth | i can do that. |
| 17:38.08 | Iriel | Or, if you want to output it earlier, you Reload your UI |
| 17:38.12 | oreth | nah |
| 17:38.24 | cncfanatics | amg |
| 17:38.26 | oreth | er.. i guess yeah, for debugging |
| 17:38.29 | cncfanatics | back to 800ms |
| 17:38.34 | cncfanatics | what the FUCK is causing this damnit ? |
| 17:38.38 | oreth | is there a good tutorial on saved variables? |
| 17:40.44 | zenzelezz | did you check WoWWiki? |
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| 17:46.31 | oreth | so, it has to be a valid LUA variable, like a table, right? |
| 17:46.31 | krka | oreth: Lua is not an acronym. It is a Portuguese word that means moon. |
| 17:46.35 | oreth | krka.... |
| 17:46.37 | oreth | bot |
| 17:47.03 | Shirik | yes, if you want to store more than one thing in it, it would be a table |
| 17:47.29 | oreth | i need to store a list of toons |
| 17:48.19 | krka | i am not a bot! |
| 17:48.39 | Thunder_Child | R 2 |
| 17:48.52 | krka | d2 |
| 17:49.36 | Cide | >>> "Am I a bot? ".. ({ "Yes", "No" })[math.random(1, 2)] |
| 17:49.36 | Cide | Cide: "Am I a bot? Yes" |
| 17:49.39 | Cide | damnit |
| 17:53.22 | krka | >>> function query(s) if yesnoqueries then if yesnoqueries[s] then return yesnoqueries[s] .. ({ "Yes", "No" })[math.random(1, 2)] end end end yesnoqueries = {["Am I a bot?"] = true} return query "Am I a bot?" |
| 17:54.49 | ckknight_ | okay, why doesn't Blizz provide a UnitGUID("unit") function? |
| 17:54.58 | Maldivia | hmm... I like the new interface options :) |
| 17:54.58 | krka | function query(s) if yesnoqueries then if yesnoqueries[s] then return s .. " " .. ({ "Yes", "No"})[math.random(1, 2)] end end end yesnoqueries = {["Am I a bot?"] = true} return query "Am I a bot?" |
| 17:55.23 | krka | >>> query "Am I a bot?" |
| 17:55.43 | Bela|afk | maybe they will. suggest it |
| 17:55.57 | Bela|afk | as long as it can't be used in the wrong way |
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| 18:09.02 | oreth | ok |
| 18:09.07 | oreth | if i'm reading this correctly |
| 18:09.42 | oreth | in my saved_variables folder, i'll have a file named "AddOnName.lua" |
| 18:09.49 | oreth | inside there i determine variables i want to store |
| 18:09.58 | zenzelezz | no |
| 18:10.04 | zenzelezz | you determine that in your addon's .toc |
| 18:10.18 | zenzelezz | they just get stored to (and restored from) the savedvariables folder by WoW |
| 18:10.24 | oreth | ahh |
| 18:10.27 | oreth | how are they stored? |
| 18:10.39 | zenzelezz | go to your folder and have a look :) |
| 18:10.54 | zenzelezz | it's basically a valid normal lua file |
| 18:11.16 | oreth | so, if I editted that file outside of wow, it would load it correctly? |
| 18:11.56 | oreth | (assuming valid lua syntax) |
| 18:13.17 | Cide | to an extent |
| 18:13.23 | Cide | it doesn't use the lua parser |
| 18:13.30 | Cide | it's a custom-written parser |
| 18:13.39 | oreth | but a table is just a table, correct? |
| 18:14.01 | Cide | yes... but you can't do things like function calls |
| 18:14.02 | oreth | actually, this would just be a list |
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| 18:14.06 | oreth | right |
| 18:14.09 | oreth | it's just a list of toons |
| 18:16.41 | Shirik | I hate Java, but I recognize its uses at least |
| 18:16.56 | clad|away | well that guy wa sa troll |
| 18:16.59 | clad|away | a horrible one at that |
| 18:17.04 | Shirik | I liked his closing line |
| 18:17.06 | Shirik | on this note i wud really like to understand what u mean when you say "with a performance |
| 18:17.06 | Shirik | level comparable to that of Java itself". |
| 18:17.09 | Shirik | .... |
| 18:17.15 | Shirik | Is he 12? |
| 18:18.09 | clad|away | YAY |
| 18:18.15 | clad|away | no more "aka shirik" |
| 18:18.18 | Shirik | Yeah |
| 18:18.24 | clad|away | okay |
| 18:18.26 | clad|away | i'm off |
| 18:18.27 | clad|away | bbl |
| 18:20.06 | Cairenn | by clad |
| 18:20.11 | Cairenn | bye* |
| 18:23.22 | zenzelezz | \o/ |
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| 19:15.52 | Guillotine | do we have an author guild on the PTR yet? |
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| 19:23.16 | zenzelezz | bah! |
| 19:23.36 | zenzelezz | just killed Azgalor, tank chest drops, doomguard tank wins... but was not on boss' loot table |
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| 19:28.23 | Fisker- | make a ticket zenzelezz |
| 19:28.29 | zenzelezz | we did |
| 19:28.36 | zenzelezz | waiting now |
| 19:29.01 | zenzelezz | just find it annoying that you can be "in combat" like that but not on the loot table; although I should have checked it before |
| 19:29.37 | Fisker- | it's range based as well |
| 19:29.49 | Fisker- | infact they might deny it for that reason |
| 19:30.06 | zenzelezz | I suspect they might, will be interesting to see |
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| 19:30.26 | zenzelezz | next time we'll do it as we should have anyway, have the doomguard tanks stay on boss until after first silence |
| 19:35.00 | wereHamster | does the wowi-lounge crowd have a guild in the ptr? |
| 19:35.31 | Cairenn | kd3 was going to be making one |
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| 19:35.42 | Cairenn | not sure if it's set up yet or not |
| 19:36.29 | wereHamster | you are on the pve realm, right? |
| 19:37.58 | Cairenn | correct |
| 19:38.22 | Cairenn | so you can have characters on either side, and so you don't get ganked when you're sitting there afk testing your mod |
| 19:38.53 | wereHamster | the biggest problem right now seems to be the character copy :) |
| 19:42.58 | Tem | LUA |
| 19:43.42 | widgertick | Can I get everyone's opinions on LUA? |
| 19:43.49 | widgertick | AHHHH~!H!##(%*& |
| 19:43.50 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Tem, widgertick |
| 19:43.50 | purl | overclocks Tem, widgertick until Tem, widgertick burns out |
| 19:43.51 | Cide | LUA sucks. |
| 19:43.55 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 19:43.59 | widgertick | ROFL |
| 19:44.12 | Tem | lulz |
| 19:46.02 | Lopeppeppy | Kinky. |
| 19:46.48 | Lopeppeppy | My characters on the PTR realm are Lopeppeppy and Kirwan, if anyone sees me around. |
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| 19:51.54 | ScytheBlade1 | This new guild of mine is "interesting" |
| 19:52.11 | ScytheBlade1 | I just read a single thread, and made this picture to outline the flow of it: http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/misc/thisThread.png |
| 19:53.32 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1 has WAY too much time on his hands |
| 19:53.50 | zenzelezz | O_o |
| 19:53.51 | ScytheBlade1 | I generated that picture, I didn't make it by hand ;P |
| 19:53.59 | Tierrie | dot |
| 19:54.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup! |
| 19:54.08 | Tierrie | i recognize it :D |
| 19:54.10 | zenzelezz | you drew it pixel by pixel, admit it |
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| 19:54.16 | ScytheBlade1 | dot is *awesome* |
| 19:54.25 | Thunder_Child | dot? |
| 19:54.36 | ScytheBlade1 | dot -Tps thisThread.dot | convert - thisThread.png |
| 19:54.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: program that made that picture |
| 19:55.28 | Thunder_Child | acronym? |
| 19:55.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Nope. Part of the graphiviz suite |
| 19:55.56 | ScytheBlade1 | *graphviz |
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| 20:02.19 | Guillotine | So whats the name of the PvE alliance guild name? |
| 20:02.53 | ScytheBlade1 | I don't know if it even exists yet |
| 20:03.02 | ScytheBlade1 | We can fix that, though |
| 20:03.08 | oreth | is there the ability to do "variable is in list" ? |
| 20:03.15 | ScytheBlade1 | There should be |
| 20:03.31 | oreth | too much python for me |
| 20:04.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Think the last name we had was "devnull" |
| 20:04.46 | ScytheBlade1 | I can grab a charter right now |
| 20:04.49 | Cide | you can check key in list |
| 20:04.57 | Cide | by just trying to access the list and see if the value is not nil |
| 20:05.20 | Cide | but to check if the value is in the list (not the key), you have to iterate over the list until you find it |
| 20:05.40 | oreth | damn |
| 20:05.46 | oreth | how intensive is that |
| 20:05.53 | oreth | if I have a list of say... 200 items? |
| 20:06.01 | Cide | O(n)? :P |
| 20:06.09 | Cide | which is likely the complexity of the python version as well |
| 20:06.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Is anyone on the PvE PTR right now? |
| 20:06.19 | Cide | <-- |
| 20:06.24 | oreth | yeah |
| 20:06.24 | oreth | ok |
| 20:06.33 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:06.45 | Cide | horde |
| 20:06.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Fail |
| 20:06.52 | oreth | what's the syntax to add to a list? |
| 20:06.54 | ScytheBlade1 | But I should have specified |
| 20:07.00 | Cide | oreth: www.lua.org/pil |
| 20:07.00 | oreth | <-- nub lua |
| 20:07.05 | Cide | we're not here to teach you lua |
| 20:07.13 | Cide | you can do that yourself |
| 20:07.16 | oreth | i can indeed |
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| 20:19.30 | Shirik | I need a server. Not necessarily non-shared, but I need a server (NOT a website). Any recommendations? |
| 20:19.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: linode.com |
| 20:19.43 | |pez| | li.. yeah |
| 20:19.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Hehe |
| 20:19.48 | |pez| | what ScytheBlade1 said. |
| 20:19.52 | |pez| | I luff mine to bits. |
| 20:19.53 | ScytheBlade1 | That's who I have my server from |
| 20:20.07 | ScytheBlade1 | And some people reported downloading over 900kB/sec from it |
| 20:20.07 | |pez| | You didn't happen to be on the earlier host57 did you? :P |
| 20:20.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Hehe, no |
| 20:20.15 | |pez| | I was ;__; |
| 20:20.16 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm on atlanta24 |
| 20:20.17 | Shirik | Won't have major downloads or anything |
| 20:20.21 | Shirik | I just need a publicly accessible server :P |
| 20:20.23 | Shirik | root access? |
| 20:20.26 | Shirik | (virtual root) |
| 20:20.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: you have full root access to your own server |
| 20:20.32 | Shirik | perfect |
| 20:20.37 | |pez| | Shirik: virtual server. :) full root access and you decide pretty much anything. |
| 20:20.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: pick any distro you want, drop it on there, enjoy |
| 20:21.09 | Shirik | that's pretty cheap |
| 20:21.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Very cheap |
| 20:21.34 | ScytheBlade1 | And awesome all around |
| 20:21.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Pay yearly and you get a 50% disk space bonus |
| 20:22.48 | |pez| | I'd love 5GB extra space. |
| 20:23.09 | Guillotine | oh wow, I need to get a Linode server o.O |
| 20:23.11 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got their cheapest linode, 3 IPs, and I pay yearly |
| 20:23.15 | ScytheBlade1 | It's awesome all around |
| 20:23.38 | |pez| | I also have their cheapest, and I use it for.. very little. but it's neat to have XD |
| 20:23.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Forums, wiki, responsive support staff |
| 20:23.38 | oreth | ok, so i have some small syntax error in the code. WoW doesn't throw an error, but the script just fails to work. is there an error log i can find somewhere? |
| 20:23.53 | oreth | something that says "EXPECTING: end on line 134" or something? |
| 20:23.59 | zenzelezz | do you have script errors enabled in WoW? |
| 20:24.02 | oreth | i do |
| 20:24.36 | zenzelezz | then there shouldn't be any errors |
| 20:24.49 | zenzelezz | but you could check for other problems in framexml.log |
| 20:25.06 | oreth | is swatter worth using? |
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| 20:25.52 | Iriel | oreth: It can be handy, but beware it doesn't open itself if an error is thrown during UI startup, so you need to remember to check it when you're doing active development. |
| 20:26.06 | oreth | that's the problem i'm having right there |
| 20:26.38 | oreth | hah |
| 20:26.38 | oreth | ok |
| 20:26.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow, the new interface options is actually very, very nice |
| 20:27.43 | Tem | I wanna make it prettier |
| 20:27.49 | Tem | but the concept is very solid |
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| 20:27.58 | ScytheBlade1 | I have yet to drop an addon in on the PTR, but I will soon |
| 20:28.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Also, there are SEVEN people in the flight path to the new island in front of me |
| 20:28.22 | ScytheBlade1 | And I can see all seven of them |
| 20:28.26 | ScytheBlade1 | That's just nuts |
| 20:29.00 | Guillotine | w00t, my AddOns require just about no changes XD |
| 20:29.19 | Guillotine | oh, I should probably test TTN with GMs |
| 20:29.22 | Guillotine | Scythe: lol |
| 20:29.25 | Guillotine | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:29.31 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm a horrible person, I know |
| 20:29.37 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm not pretending otherwise |
| 20:29.41 | Guillotine | I doubt there are any GMs on the PTR to test with though :( |
| 20:29.44 | Guillotine | oh, and tell track |
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| 20:33.48 | Shirik | okay, I just got 23 arena rating.... |
| 20:33.54 | Shirik | from a team that took us about 15 seconds to kill |
| 20:34.06 | Shirik | Like there was a druid on me, we killed him, I looked up and it said "1 player remaining" |
| 20:34.06 | nevcairiel | probably bought the team or something |
| 20:34.46 | ScytheBlade1 | PTR is laggy |
| 20:34.48 | ScytheBlade1 | 1100ms ping |
| 20:34.57 | Shirik | YOU'RE LAGGY |
| 20:35.02 | ScytheBlade1 | :/ |
| 20:35.15 | Shirik | rofl |
| 20:35.20 | Shirik | (15:34:59) -› [CTCP to ScytheBlade1]: PING |
| 20:35.21 | Shirik | (15:35:01) -› [CTCP PING reply from ScytheBlade1]: reply took 2.14s |
| 20:35.28 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 20:35.55 | Shirik | !ap 1575 |
| 20:35.55 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Arena points from a rating of 1575 is, 2v2: 328, 3v3: 380, 5v5: 432 |
| 20:35.55 | ScytheBlade1 | That would be to my server actually |
| 20:35.58 | Shirik | It seems my connection to calkins is horrible actually |
| 20:36.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup ;P |
| 20:40.05 | Shirik | !ap 1586 |
| 20:40.05 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Arena points from a rating of 1586 is, 2v2: 339, 3v3: 393, 5v5: 446 |
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| 20:45.33 | Shirik | that's a lot of points o.o |
| 20:45.52 | Shirik | So.... 10GB of space |
| 20:45.56 | Shirik | is that enough to run what I want? |
| 20:46.03 | Shirik | I guess I can stick gentoo on there without X |
| 20:46.18 | Guillotine | what do you want to run? |
| 20:47.00 | Shirik | I'll need for sure an ftp server, svn server, and that's about it |
| 20:47.21 | Shirik | But I want room so if we need stuff later I can add it |
| 20:47.28 | Antiarc | Afternoon folks |
| 20:47.58 | Antiarc | oreth: wtf are you doing here? |
| 20:48.08 | oreth | learning? |
| 20:48.15 | Antiarc | Haha |
| 20:48.16 | Antiarc | :) |
| 20:48.23 | oreth | how's it goin, man? |
| 20:48.34 | Shirik | know each other? |
| 20:48.49 | oreth | a bit. |
| 20:48.57 | Shirik | I'm sorry |
| 20:48.58 | oreth | nothing formal, of course. |
| 20:48.59 | Antiarc | Acquanitences, yeah :P |
| 20:49.27 | oreth | Antiar: I wanted to let you know. I enjoyed your interview for the Llama report. |
| 20:49.37 | Antiarc | Heh, I got the PM, I just haven't responded |
| 20:49.51 | Antiarc | You're cool to use my tools, but it's probably easier to just use the armory directly :) |
| 20:49.56 | oreth | Well, I decided not to grab the info from the armory tools. |
| 20:50.21 | oreth | yeah. However, the problem I'm running into on that side is... I'm polling the armory too quickly |
| 20:50.36 | oreth | i'll get dropped data due to lack of response. |
| 20:50.53 | oreth | How'd you get around that? |
| 20:51.04 | Antiarc | I don't, must be why I'm getting failures :P |
| 20:51.10 | oreth | ahh :P |
| 20:51.17 | Antiarc | Just introduce a blocking mechanism |
| 20:51.25 | Antiarc | So you only poll once per second or something |
| 20:51.33 | Antiarc | Have a request queue that fires off 1 req/sec |
| 20:51.33 | oreth | that's exactly what I did |
| 20:51.49 | Antiarc | I haven't messed with the armory source in a long time |
| 20:51.52 | Antiarc | It needs a rewrite |
| 20:51.53 | oreth | time.sleep(1) |
| 20:52.08 | oreth | I'm polling the armory through python, then having python build the Lua script. |
| 20:52.18 | oreth | my biggest bottleneck is the Lua programming language itself. |
| 20:53.08 | Antiarc | You'll get around it pretty quick. Lua's a simple language to pick up, though hard to master :) |
| 20:54.00 | oreth | well, at work, I'm writing javascript (both client and server side) and C#.. not to mention python whenever I feel like it. So, I'm having a bit of a time jumping between languages |
| 20:54.19 | Antiarc | Haha, yeah, I hate that. |
| 20:54.33 | Antiarc | Learn ruby and you'll mess yourself up nice and properly |
| 20:55.37 | oreth | I also think i'm about to start on a project with KageNeko (more than likely PHP) |
| 20:55.55 | oreth | all the while, trying to wrap my head around Lua |
| 20:56.40 | Antiarc | Heheh |
| 20:56.42 | Antiarc | Well, have fun with it :P |
| 20:56.57 | oreth | how's everything on your end |
| 20:57.19 | Antiarc | Can't complain. Just got back from San Francisco, hanging out with the Curse guys and some other addon devs. That was fun times. |
| 20:57.27 | Antiarc | And now the 2.4 PTR is up so I'm writing Threat-2.0 |
| 20:57.38 | Guillotine | funfun |
| 20:57.53 | Lopeppeppy | Huzzah for the PTR. |
| 20:58.03 | Antiarc | Huzzah for the PTR, boooo to having to do work! :P |
| 20:58.05 | Guillotine | Antiarc: make sure to use thismod=getglobal(namespace) |
| 20:58.21 | Guillotine | and check for UnitClass a lot |
| 20:58.24 | Antiarc | me.mod.is.a.ace.mod.with.assloads.of.table.dereferences = thismod |
| 20:58.50 | Antiarc | We had a 5 AM KTM roast in my hotel room. It was fun. >_> |
| 20:59.14 | oreth | i've got say, I'd never used Omen, as I'm mostly pvp.. but I ran Kara for the first time last night, popped omen on... saved my ass more than once |
| 20:59.25 | oreth | however, the red screen flash is highly disconcerting |
| 20:59.26 | Antiarc | It'll be even more ass-saving with the GUIDs now |
| 20:59.34 | Antiarc | It's supposed to be, but you can turn it off |
| 20:59.43 | oreth | no no.. that was what saved me |
| 20:59.49 | Antiarc | The intent is "stop DPSing, dumbass!" - works most of the time for me :D |
| 21:04.22 | Industrial | Cairenn: somehow it seems that the tooltip you get when hovering over a link to an addon page is taking up to 5 seconds to load per link. I could just as well open all addons in the list in a tab instead :p |
| 21:04.52 | zenzelezz | Industrial: on the main page, the lastest 10 or whatever? |
| 21:05.07 | Industrial | no eg http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/cat62.html |
| 21:05.30 | Industrial | feels like its trying to download and parse a whole addon page for info for everything you hiver over |
| 21:06.11 | Industrial | also, where did the "works with latest patch" go? |
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| 21:13.59 | oreth | correct me if I'm wrong, but in a for loop, the constraining values are calculated only once... as such it is ok to do :: for i=0, i< table.size() |
| 21:14.20 | oreth | as opposed to :: size = table.size() :: for i=0, i< size |
| 21:14.38 | Guillotine | correct |
| 21:14.54 | oreth | good |
| 21:22.12 | Sixen | Hm. |
| 21:22.15 | Sixen | Anyone try the PTR yet? |
| 21:22.16 | |pez| | Ah man, I have a feeling this is gonna take some time. the person who's setting up the new server for the folks I'm booting off mine, has no clue. |
| 21:22.50 | dylanm_ | Not your problem :p |
| 21:23.24 | |pez| | I know, but I feel I need to be patient and cute and cuddly and nice. |
| 21:23.35 | zenzelezz | one of the locks in my guild is just disturbing... |
| 21:23.42 | zenzelezz | "you can not have one of my stones, you can have both" |
| 21:23.57 | Lopeppeppy | |pez|, you gave them a bye-bye date. The rest is their problem, not yours. |
| 21:24.14 | |pez| | Lopeppeppy: the byebye date is today, since we made it go faster |
| 21:24.35 | |pez| | due to a quite serious security issue that occured after my linode crashed last week. |
| 21:26.03 | Lopeppeppy | sucks to be them. You made a backup, right? |
| 21:26.13 | |pez| | I did. |
| 21:26.29 | |pez| | I didn't find a way to make it small enough to import trough the wonderfull phpMyAdmin interface. |
| 21:26.33 | |pez| | but yeah, sucks to be them. |
| 21:29.30 | oreth | What kind of syntax is |
| 21:29.33 | oreth | #myTable |
| 21:29.38 | oreth | for the love of all that is holy |
| 21:29.57 | dylanm_ | Awesome syntax. |
| 21:30.10 | foxlit | > table.getn(myTable) |
| 21:30.23 | |pez| | Oh man, I had to tell the person to SSH his way into the server, and install things from there... |
| 21:32.03 | Cidan | well shit |
| 21:32.05 | Cidan | This is scary |
| 21:32.17 | Cidan | 2.6.x kernel bug |
| 21:32.21 | Cidan | local root exploit |
| 21:32.28 | Cidan | just tried it out, works without a hitch. |
| 21:33.05 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 21:33.05 | Shirik | interesting |
| 21:33.06 | Cidan | aj@bahamut:~$ ./jb |
| 21:33.06 | Cidan | ----------------------------------- Linux vmsplice Local Root Exploit By qaaz |
| 21:33.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Link? |
| 21:33.09 | Cidan | ----------------------------------- |
| 21:33.11 | Cidan | [+] mmap: 0x0 .. 0x1000 |
| 21:33.14 | Cidan | [+] page: 0x0 |
| 21:33.16 | Cidan | [+] page: 0x20 |
| 21:33.19 | Cidan | [+] mmap: 0x4000 .. 0x5000 |
| 21:33.21 | Cidan | [+] page: 0x4000 |
| 21:33.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Cidan: your IRC client is doing that awesome one line per second paste thing. |
| 21:33.24 | Cidan | [+] page: 0x4020 |
| 21:33.26 | Cidan | [+] mmap: 0x1000 .. 0x2000 |
| 21:33.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Cidan: kill yourself. |
| 21:33.29 | Cidan | [+] page: 0x1000 |
| 21:33.31 | Cidan | [+] mmap: 0xb7d79000 .. 0xb7dab000 |
| 21:33.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Cidan: :) |
| 21:33.34 | Cidan | [+] root |
| 21:33.36 | Cidan | root@bahamut:~# |
| 21:33.37 | Cidan | ScytheBlade1: D: |
| 21:33.40 | Cidan | http://www.milw0rm.com/exploits/5092 |
| 21:33.41 | zenzelezz | Cidan: zomg pastey |
| 21:33.47 | Cidan | NEVER |
| 21:33.52 | Cidan | PASTEY SAWKS |
| 21:33.59 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:33.59 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 21:34.00 | zenzelezz | then we'll have a word with Cairenn |
| 21:34.07 | Cidan | ohshi |
| 21:34.15 | Shirik | you can't hide from Cairenn |
| 21:34.30 | oreth | from hollywood_hotties import AngelinaJolie |
| 21:34.31 | oreth | <.< |
| 21:34.32 | oreth | >.> |
| 21:34.54 | oreth | yes... python is that simple... |
| 21:35.00 | Cidan | kinda scary actually |
| 21:35.08 | oreth | seriously, i'm rockin' it with Angie RIGHT NOW |
| 21:35.19 | Cidan | just shutdown external SSH access from all my users, :/ |
| 21:35.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Cidan: that IS scary |
| 21:36.00 | ScytheBlade1 | I just tried it here... boom |
| 21:36.15 | Cidan | Yup, works perfect. |
| 21:36.28 | Shirik | I would try this on batrick's computer, but I already have access to sudo, so kinda pointless :P Besides, I'm not mean |
| 21:37.01 | Shirik | however what WOULD be fun to try this on is our robot :D |
| 21:37.24 | wereHamster | Cidan, was it fixed in .24.2 or later? |
| 21:37.35 | Cidan | Well it's not really about being mean; I'm trying it on every computer I have access to |
| 21:37.46 | Cidan | then quickly sealing port 22 with my new root access |
| 21:37.48 | Cidan | :P |
| 21:37.53 | Cidan | Uhm no |
| 21:37.56 | ScytheBlade1 | .24.2 doesn't exist yet |
| 21:38.04 | Cidan | Right, :P |
| 21:38.11 | ScytheBlade1 | If I had to guess, it will exist very quickly |
| 21:38.34 | Shirik | Cidan: I know :) |
| 21:39.25 | Shirik | that is an interestingexploit |
| 21:39.30 | Shirik | I would spend more time investigating it but I have to run |
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| 21:43.44 | Maldivia | hmm... |
| 21:43.54 | Maldivia | the texture tags... how are they supposed to work? |
| 21:46.07 | foxlit | {star}? |
| 21:46.28 | wereHamster | is it possible to escape {}? |
| 21:46.53 | AnduinLothar | As I suspected. they took all the pally ret gear and turned the spell dmg into str |
| 21:47.12 | Maldivia | foxlit: yeah, that was what I expected aswell, but can't seem to get it to work |
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| 21:48.06 | foxlit | 2.4? |
| 21:48.16 | Maldivia | yep, ptr |
| 21:48.49 | Cidan | oh is 2.4 up? |
| 21:48.53 | ScytheBlade1 | It is |
| 21:48.56 | Cidan | Hm |
| 21:48.57 | Maldivia | crashing constantly, but yeah |
| 21:48.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Anyone on US PvE alliance atm? |
| 21:49.00 | Cidan | lol |
| 21:49.04 | ScytheBlade1 | I want to test {star}, etc |
| 21:49.10 | Cidan | I'll wait a few days and get on it |
| 21:49.13 | AnduinLothar | pvp realm is restarting in 10 min |
| 21:49.15 | Cidan | I never go during the rush |
| 21:49.18 | Maldivia | sb1: can't get it to work :| |
| 21:49.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Maldivia: ? |
| 21:49.29 | Maldivia | {star} |
| 21:49.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Have to be in a party |
| 21:49.43 | ScytheBlade1 | It only works in /rw and one other I think |
| 21:49.52 | Maldivia | tried party chat, tried RW |
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| 21:50.42 | Maldivia | {star}alone just writes {star}, |T{star}|t, and SendChatMessage fails |
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| 21:50.57 | Antiarc | Is there anyone on PTR with a warrior? |
| 21:51.02 | Antiarc | Past level 10? |
| 21:51.52 | Maldivia | ohh, and if anyone is interested, from quick tests, it seems (at lvl 70), around 100 spell haste rating lowers GBC by 0.1sec |
| 21:52.09 | AnduinLothar | char transfers queue is full |
| 21:52.15 | Shirik|AFK | To whomever recommended me linode, thanks |
| 21:52.18 | Shirik|AFK | seems like a good choice |
| 21:52.46 | ScytheBlade1 | It is a good choice |
| 21:52.48 | ScytheBlade1 | I've been happy |
| 21:52.59 | Antiarc | I have a 70 war, but xfer is full |
| 21:54.03 | ScytheBlade1 | For anyone interested in the lore: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4493772066&sid=1 |
| 21:55.44 | Maldivia | Antiarc: and EU char copy is fucked... there's a total of 4 lvl 70s online on the EU PTR right now |
| 21:56.24 | AnduinLothar | I can't find any pally gear that was changed other than the tier4-6 |
| 21:57.10 | Antiarc | I just want someone to test Sunder past 5 stacks |
| 21:57.14 | Antiarc | See if it gives an event now |
| 21:57.45 | Lopeppeppy | AnduinLothar: That would make me a sad panda. |
| 21:58.07 | AnduinLothar | yeah, they didn't change that crappy hijal belt with haste and spelldmg... |
| 21:58.29 | AnduinLothar | only useful for shockadin pvp i guess |
| 21:58.58 | WobWork | http://www.wowdb.com/spell.aspx?id=46565 |
| 21:58.59 | WobWork | ? |
| 21:59.11 | WobWork | wtftf? |
| 21:59.22 | Tem|Errands | Antiarc, if it gave an even before it does now |
| 21:59.23 | AnduinLothar | that'd be hax |
| 21:59.29 | Tem|Errands | if it didn't give an even tbefore, it doesn't now |
| 21:59.40 | Antiarc | Tem|Errands: Noes :( |
| 22:00.02 | Tem|Errands | omg the omen guy is talking to me |
| 22:00.06 | Antiarc | Tem|Errands: :( |
| 22:00.12 | Maldivia | WobWork: either someone teasing, or they are trying out new talent ideas, or it could be a mob spell |
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| 22:02.21 | Lopeppeppy | Okay. I officially do not like wowdb. A popup appears, "this appears to be your first visit to our site, click here for a tour!" No. Go away. |
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| 22:04.02 | Antiarc | Sunwell Exalted Caster Neck - Your spells have a chance to call on the power of the Arcane if you're exalted with the Scryers, or the Light if you're exalted with the Aldor. |
| 22:04.06 | Keias | I hate how I can't view it unless I turn on JavaScript. |
| 22:04.15 | Antiarc | That's an ASP.NET site for you :P |
| 22:04.38 | Antiarc | Blame Microsoft for that genius idea. |
| 22:04.44 | WobWork | I can't =( |
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| 22:11.36 | oreth | Antiarc: one of my co-workers is a code monster... We're working on a huge .Net site right now. |
| 22:11.40 | Atriace | Anybody else getting an error when retrieving character list via PTR? |
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| 22:12.08 | oreth | He builds all the tools in .Net, then I put them into place and occupy them with data and styles |
| 22:12.21 | oreth | we've got a pretty good work flow team. |
| 22:12.28 | oreth | But I despise .Net developement |
| 22:12.33 | bleeter | Guillotine: :P |
| 22:12.57 | Guillotine | lol |
| 22:13.22 | Guillotine | I shouldn't chat in IRC while being the only healer in a group :( |
| 22:13.31 | Antiarc | .NET isn't bad. ASP.NET is an abomination, IMO |
| 22:13.57 | oreth | well, that's what we're using |
| 22:14.01 | oreth | C# |
| 22:14.25 | bleeter | Guillotine: you shouldn't, but it's fun to do! :D |
| 22:14.34 | oreth | everytime I sit down to it, I want to cry |
| 22:14.47 | Guillotine | bleeter: troof |
| 22:14.49 | Antiarc | c# is great. ASP.NET as a web stack is just...bleh. |
| 22:15.02 | oreth | C# is too constraining for my likes |
| 22:15.40 | Antiarc | Well, if you're used to scripting, sure. |
| 22:15.54 | oreth | Perhaps it's my lack of familiarity with the language. |
| 22:16.27 | oreth | I get along just fine... but it doesn't have that sense of moldability |
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| 22:17.14 | oreth | Westmarch has been trying to get me to learn Lisp |
| 22:17.35 | oreth | I'm just not sure I'm up to melting my brain yet. |
| 22:17.39 | wereHamster | leare haskell instead :) |
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| 22:21.08 | bleeter | yeah, what wereHamster said |
| 22:23.56 | wereHamster | haskell is quite popular these days |
| 22:24.52 | dylanm | It is? |
| 22:25.06 | oreth | sure.. |
| 22:25.10 | Iriel | I suspect for some definition of 'popular' |
| 22:25.11 | Iriel | it's hip |
| 22:25.20 | Iriel | I'm not certain it's particularly useful |
| 22:25.31 | oreth | if we're using it in relevance to "german-austrian polka as performed by jack russel terriers" |
| 22:25.43 | oreth | then, yeah, it's HELLA popular |
| 22:26.12 | wereHamster | epic games, the makers of unreal, use haskell to develop the engine ;) |
| 22:26.41 | zenzelezz | oh? |
| 22:27.16 | zenzelezz | thought it was C++ |
| 22:27.57 | AnduinLothar | haskell is useful for decision making |
| 22:28.13 | wereHamster | the way I understood it, they use haskell to find out how to properly design the engine, and then the write the actual code in C/C++ |
| 22:28.14 | AnduinLothar | which sometimes falls under ai |
| 22:29.30 | Iriel | Based on haskell's own web site, I suspect the unreal comment has a lot of subtext,because they say: In applications where performance is required at any cost, or when the goal is detailed tuning of a low-level algorithm, an imperative language like C would probably be a better choice than Haskell, exactly because it provides more intimate control over the exact way in which the computation is carried out. |
| 22:31.24 | AnduinLothar | it's useful for complex problems that have large learning databases |
| 22:31.44 | Iriel | I think every programmer should have used at least one functional language for something non-trivial |
| 22:31.54 | wereHamster | The Next Mainstream Programming Language: www.st.cs.uni-sb.de/edu/seminare/2005/advanced-fp/docs/sweeny.pdf |
| 22:32.13 | bleeter | I dunno... I do know that the local Uni was well respected for it's AI, and when the senior lecturers got told to drop haskell and dumb down the course so the passrate bellcurve would be 'better', they told the Uni where to go screw themselves and went back to working for the major scientific research organisation in .au |
| 22:32.28 | bleeter | hence, the AI course is now junk |
| 22:32.31 | AnduinLothar | for ai it's often used as a precursor to find the best descision patterns which are then hardcoded for in C |
| 22:33.40 | AnduinLothar | an example they used in ym uni courses was game planning for pro sports |
| 22:34.44 | Iriel | The presentation is interesting |
| 22:35.11 | Iriel | but it doesn't say "we use haskell for unreal" it says "haskell looks like it'll address many problems we face building games like unreal" |
| 22:35.16 | Iriel | Unless I read it utterly wrong |
| 22:35.52 | wereHamster | I'd have to ask my friend if you want to know more about how epic uses haskell.. |
| 22:36.08 | wereHamster | he's asleep now |
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| 22:40.29 | [dRaCo] | does anyone know if mikord is here every once in a while? |
| 22:40.45 | wereHamster | ~seen mikord |
| 22:40.48 | purl | mikord <n=noone@cpe-68-206-159-82.hot.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 391d 1h 28m 13s ago, saying: 'right. I was just saying there was something to do with tooltips'. |
| 22:41.02 | [dRaCo] | guess not |
| 22:41.03 | wereHamster | once in a year or so.. :) |
| 22:41.08 | [dRaCo] | thanks |
| 22:44.16 | [dRaCo] | just wondering since I have that weird issue with msbt and I'm not really eager to post it somewhere, since it probably requires some exchange of... w/e |
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| 23:05.37 | kd3 | whee at the combat log moving up for nearly every vent that's firing |
| 23:06.44 | art3mis | i think tomorrow my project is gonna be to softmod my xbox360 so i can play h264 |
| 23:13.36 | Thunder_Child | the video format? |
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| 23:17.31 | art3mis | yeah |
| 23:17.51 | art3mis | for some awesome reason the xbox360 doesnt support mpg as a format or h264 |
| 23:18.04 | art3mis | which makes sense on the h264 side but no mpeg is retarded |
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| 23:18.45 | art3mis | this sandbox rogram is oodles of fun to play with |
| 23:18.49 | art3mis | program |
| 23:19.33 | art3mis | http://www.sandboxie.com |
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| 23:25.49 | Thunder_Child | ~lart3mis |
| 23:25.50 | purl | ACTION smacks art3mis upside the head just cuz |
| 23:26.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik|AFK: thoughts on linode so far? |
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| 23:34.20 | Rayne | Is the Login for the WoW Forums broke? |
| 23:37.20 | Thunder_Child | only for you Rayne |
| 23:37.29 | Corrodias | something is borked big time |
| 23:37.52 | Corrodias | on my realm, you couldn't retrieve your character list or send mail for a minute, and now it's just extremely slow to do those things |
| 23:37.53 | zenzelezz | hokay, time to log off the guild's Ventrilo server... conversation level fallen to "boning monkeys" |
| 23:38.07 | alestane | I had trouble logging in before, but I assumed it was because I was logged into the game. |
| 23:38.11 | Thunder_Child | uhhh...thats the best time though |
| 23:38.40 | Rayne | Corrodias: Something is really wrong with all the servers |
| 23:38.48 | Thunder_Child | mine is fine |
| 23:38.51 | Thunder_Child | i just loged in |
| 23:38.54 | Rayne | Kil'Jaeden was down for about 4 hours last night |
| 23:39.21 | Rayne | Outland crashed, then oldworld |
| 23:39.27 | Rayne | then the instance servers |
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| 23:39.49 | zenzelezz | I hope this is not what will happen when Kil'jaeden dies on live realms |
| 23:40.23 | Corrodias | what do you mean? |
| 23:40.49 | zenzelezz | I assume Rayne was talking about a realm called Kil'jaeden |
| 23:41.06 | zenzelezz | but I cleverly turned it into the character Kil'jaeden zomg |
| 23:41.23 | Corrodias | ah, hah |
| 23:41.29 | Rayne | It sucked |
| 23:41.35 | Rayne | I was stuck in SL for 20 minutes |
| 23:41.42 | Rayne | then the whole server died |
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| 23:45.54 | art3mis | zenzelezz: thats one of the new mob talents |
| 23:46.06 | art3mis | thier death results in the end of the world.... for 4 hours |
| 23:46.17 | zenzelezz | only if you reach the enrage |
| 23:46.25 | art3mis | needless to say im glad im not on a server with top hardcore raiders ;P |
| 23:46.30 | zenzelezz | it's to help keep raids focused so their realm doesn't all shun them |
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| 23:46.36 | art3mis | hahaha |
| 23:52.33 | foxlit | http://www.theonion.com/content/video/poll_bullshit_is_most_important |
| 23:53.00 | art3mis | hey i have a question |
| 23:53.23 | foxlit | hey i might have an answer |
| 23:53.56 | art3mis | if you were to take an addon and modify it and then post it and the author got mad and asked it to be removed and it was.. and you THEN posted up a "diff" on how to change said addon and just posted that instead would the author still have domain to get it removed? |
| 23:54.33 | art3mis | like for instance that av group joiner thingy thats horde only |
| 23:54.50 | art3mis | if you posted the diff to change it to alliance only |
| 23:55.00 | art3mis | instead of reposting the whole "changed" addon |
| 23:55.02 | foxlit | Why not post an addon that does the same thing? |
| 23:55.03 | alestane | That's a little harder, but I'm guessing your changes would still constitute a "derivative work." |
| 23:55.12 | Corrodias | posting how to modify things, assuming you're not breaking some encryption, is legal in any situation i believe |
| 23:55.22 | art3mis | but would it then be the new authors work and thus not removeable? |
| 23:55.36 | art3mis | sorta like those "mod mazzle" posts? |
| 23:55.53 | Corrodias | i am not familiar with that situation |
| 23:56.28 | art3mis | essentially "patches" to existing addons |
| 23:56.37 | Corrodias | and posting a modified form of the original might even be legal depending on the license used by the author |
| 23:56.47 | foxlit | Okay, question, what's your point? :) |
| 23:56.47 | Corrodias | if you don't specify a license, what is the "default"? |
| 23:56.59 | foxlit | default is "YOU CAN DO NOTHING WITH THIS" |
| 23:57.00 | clad|sleep | that depend son where you post the addon |
| 23:57.01 | alestane | Normal coright...ARR. |
| 23:57.02 | clad|sleep | foxlit: not entirely |
| 23:57.10 | alestane | copyright... |
| 23:57.13 | foxlit | Possibly use |
| 23:57.17 | clad|sleep | depending on where you post the addon, different things are granted |
| 23:57.17 | art3mis | i was actually hoping that guill or cairenn wuold state thier view from a mod hoster point ;P |
| 23:57.21 | foxlit | Modify and redistribute, very unlikely |
| 23:57.24 | clad|sleep | google code, you have to choose a license |
| 23:57.29 | alestane | but as clad points out, curse has specific terms of use that grant rights to Curse users. |
| 23:57.35 | foxlit | If you want to be an ass, you could probably get away with posting a patch |
| 23:57.38 | clad|sleep | different addon sites state that you give the users the ability to download the addon, which is reasonable |
| 23:57.41 | clad|sleep | since otherwise no one could download |
| 23:57.47 | foxlit | If you didn't, just write a better addon that works for the alliance side? |
| 23:57.54 | art3mis | would posting a diff and ONLY a diff with instructions on how to patch it be acceptable or would the original author still claim the right to have it removed |
| 23:57.57 | clad|sleep | that's why i said, it depends on how and where you distribute your addon |
| 23:58.13 | foxlit | Anything that does it explicitly? |
| 23:58.25 | clad|sleep | art3mis: It depends on the interpretation of the site we're talking about, not the opinions of the people in this channel, sadly |
| 23:58.28 | Corrodias | author A has no claim over something that interacts with, but does not duplicate, his work |
| 23:58.43 | art3mis | okay well lets ask a more directed question |
| 23:58.45 | Corrodias | from what i understand of law, which is not as much as i'd like |
| 23:58.49 | art3mis | clad let's take lightheadeed |
| 23:58.53 | art3mis | headed |
| 23:58.54 | kd3 | anyone figure out how to get the combat log to stop moving? |
| 23:58.59 | clad|sleep | well LightHeaded NOW |
| 23:59.04 | clad|sleep | or LightHeaded from a few months ago |
| 23:59.05 | art3mis | if i were to mod that and make it use thott instead for instance |
| 23:59.06 | clad|sleep | ? |
| 23:59.17 | foxlit | I don't think that part is distributed |
| 23:59.24 | art3mis | and post a diff on change to be made for thott integration instead of wowhead |
| 23:59.25 | foxlit | Unless clad ships update scripts? :) |
| 23:59.26 | Corrodias | Microsoft does not have the right to refuse to let somebody write a program that runs on Windows |
| 23:59.33 | clad|sleep | foxlit: he does not |
| 23:59.34 | clad|sleep | :P |
| 23:59.41 | art3mis | would that irritate you if it was psoted where you didnt want it? |
| 23:59.46 | Guillotine | art3mis: wait, what about our view? |
| 23:59.52 | Guillotine | sorry, I was healing a bot |
| 23:59.55 | clad|sleep | art3mis: it wouldn't just irritate me |
| 23:59.56 | foxlit | Corrodias: but Sony does |
