| 00:02.21 | kd3 | heh.... |
| 00:02.34 | kd3 | "FIVE underwater internet cables now cut: This is the kind of coincidence that turns tinfoil into hats." --digg |
| 00:02.42 | Cairenn | lol |
| 00:02.48 | Lopeppeppy | Big squid likes spaghetti. |
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| 00:03.33 | kd3 | and something slightly more relevant to the channel at hand |
| 00:03.41 | kd3 | " |
| 00:03.41 | kd3 | The Raid UI now can display the range of players relative to you. The option to enable this is in the Party & Raid section of the UI Options." |
| 00:03.45 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968233433&pageNo=13&sid=1#249 |
| 00:04.07 | Kaso | I thought the latest one wasnt a cable cut but just some power failure or something.. |
| 00:04.26 | Nechckn | Lol Kd3 |
| 00:05.30 | Kaso | Also omg, kd3 thats awesome! |
| 00:07.59 | alestane | ~seen iriel |
| 00:08.02 | purl | iriel <n=Iriel@adsl-71-158-244-138.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 18h 18m 10s ago, saying: 'I can only imagine the realtime libraries must include it, but it's been a long time since I knew it well enough to answer with any authority'. |
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| 00:16.57 | foxlit | strsub == string.sub? |
| 00:18.08 | alestane | More accurately, string.sub == strsub. |
| 00:18.24 | foxlit | Why would that be more accurate? |
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| 00:19.09 | MySpoons2Big | Is there a safe way to prevent certain whispers from appearing in a player's chat frame? |
| 00:19.12 | alestane | I'm pretty sure strsub is older. compiling the str funcitons into a single library table is (I believe) a fairly recent development. |
| 00:19.47 | Guillotine | alestane: the string library came first |
| 00:19.58 | Lopeppeppy | What kind of "certain whispers", MySpoons2Big? |
| 00:20.21 | Guillotine | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:20.32 | foxlit | (and strsub is undefined in newer versions of Lua) |
| 00:20.49 | foxlit | Hm |
| 00:21.12 | End | is there anything taint sensitive that uses the static popups? |
| 00:21.56 | foxlit | Get different behavior in wow and in lua interpreter under those assumptions |
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| 00:28.31 | MySpoons2Big | Lopeppeppy: I'm working on a mod. One player will run the addon and other players interface with the addon by whispering certain commands to the player with the mod. For convenience, I'd like to give the user to hide the whispers to avoid spam. |
| 00:29.12 | Lopeppeppy | I don't think WhisperCast works anymore, but some of how it worked (when it did) might interest you. Not sure it's status post 2.0 though... hrm. |
| 00:30.11 | Lunessa | Yes, MySpoons2Big - you can do exactly what you want, and several addons already do this. |
| 00:30.22 | Lunessa | Look at CraftList2 for an example. |
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| 00:32.00 | MySpoons2Big | Lunessa: Checking it out now, thanks. |
| 00:32.39 | Lopeppeppy | Thanks for pointing me toward something more modern, Lunessa. I'm a hopeless romantic sometimes for the oldies! |
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| 00:52.06 | Elessdy | yay, my internet downstream is back to normal |
| 00:52.23 | Elessdy | WoW is still registering higher-than-normal latency, but it's slowly dropping toward its normal level |
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| 00:53.36 | foxlit | > =bit.bnot(1) |
| 00:53.36 | foxlit | 1.844674407371e+19 |
| 00:53.40 | foxlit | I love you too, bitlib. |
| 00:54.06 | Lopeppeppy | Growly love, just what I like to see. |
| 00:56.09 | Corrodias | testing in another app, my latency is down to 30-50ms again, so it's just WoW's naturally higher one that i'm seeing |
| 01:02.48 | Legorol | does anyone know when did Blizzard change things like riding crop, carrot, skybreaker's whip and pala aura to actually stack? |
| 01:03.17 | End | what? |
| 01:03.19 | kd3 | they stack? that's never been announced |
| 01:03.28 | kd3 | crusader aura specifically says it doesn't stack |
| 01:03.28 | End | they said they weren't supposed to stack |
| 01:03.36 | Legorol | yeah that's what i thought too |
| 01:03.40 | Legorol | today someone told me they stack now |
| 01:03.42 | Legorol | (i didn't test it) |
| 01:03.47 | Legorol | you guys heard anything about that? |
| 01:03.47 | kd3 | lies and misdirection |
| 01:03.50 | kd3 | no |
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| 01:04.00 | End | I'll eat my hat if they stack now |
| 01:04.02 | Corrodias | someone told me about the easter bunny |
| 01:04.05 | End | (fortunately, I don't have a hat) |
| 01:04.13 | End | (So I'm safe either way) |
| 01:04.18 | Legorol | i think the only way i'll find out for sure is if i test it |
| 01:04.22 | Legorol | but i don't have two of those |
| 01:04.38 | Lunessa | They don't stack. |
| 01:04.53 | Lopeppeppy | Easy to test, find someone with the whip and a paladin. But they don't stack, they never have. |
| 01:04.55 | cogwheel | what's the flavor of the month in console e-mail clients for linux? (or flavors... no flamewars please :P ) |
| 01:05.00 | Corrodias | i have 3 or 4 of that kind of item. but i'm in SSC right now. |
| 01:05.03 | Legorol | apparently the tooltip text has changed recently, that's why soemone says carrot+crop stacks now |
| 01:05.15 | kd3 | cog, mutt? |
| 01:05.25 | kd3 | did it now? /tabs open a database site |
| 01:06.00 | kd3 | the max-non-pally-aura speed augment is capped at 10%. or at least it was, last I heard |
| 01:06.43 | kd3 | mithril spurs + carrot + glove chant or one of the 10% trinkets |
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| 01:15.18 | art3mis | cogwheel: pretty mcuh anything ;P |
| 01:15.35 | art3mis | evolution, iceweasels mailer, thunderbird |
| 01:15.49 | art3mis | its a pop client, there's only 2 states, working and not working ;P |
| 01:16.18 | kd3 | key word: console |
| 01:18.23 | Lunessa | Yeah, but if you were, and I requested the "hot lubbin" page, you'd just say "404" |
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| 01:22.53 | Corrodias | these bog lords in SSC are driving us nuts |
| 01:23.16 | Corrodias | doesn't seem to make a difference how we handle them, they kill people every time |
| 01:23.47 | cogwheel | ~lart3mis |
| 01:23.48 | purl | ACTION smacks art3mis upside the head just cuz |
| 01:23.54 | |pez| | webhotels is scarycheap these days. |
| 01:24.00 | Lopeppeppy | Yup, they totally do, Corrodias. They're nasty. |
| 01:24.46 | cogwheel | kd3: with a sufficiently small font, i could resize the terminal and emulate a framebuffer in text mode... |
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| 01:25.02 | cogwheel | maybe get 640x480 or more... |
| 01:25.04 | cogwheel | :P |
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| 01:26.29 | Atriace | Is there a rule that <Frames> can only occur once in your XML? |
| 01:26.57 | foxlit | no |
| 01:27.12 | foxlit | once per containing element, perhaps |
| 01:27.19 | Atriace | Because, I created a set and then duplicated the (working) code but renamed the frame to something else, but it doesn't come up. |
| 01:27.23 | Tem | Atriace, <Frames> can only occur once per <Frame> |
| 01:27.39 | Esamynn|Work | Atriace: checked FrameXML.log? |
| 01:27.48 | Atriace | Hmm. No I haven't. |
| 01:27.52 | Atriace | Log folder I assume? |
| 01:28.07 | Atriace | Thanks, Tom. |
| 01:31.27 | WobWork | (Psst, it's Tem) |
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| 01:31.55 | Tem | also, I'm 99% sure Esamynn|Work's name isn't tom |
| 01:32.01 | Tem | =P |
| 01:33.20 | Atriace | doh |
| 01:34.04 | Atriace | Actually, I wanted to thank "Tem" for the single occurance issue. I'm still looking for FrameXML.log. |
| 01:34.15 | Atriace | I'm guessing it's something you need to turn on? |
| 01:34.18 | Tem | no |
| 01:35.07 | alestane | in the WoW directory, there is a folder called "Logs". |
| 01:36.07 | Atriace | I looked there. No file called FrameXML.log |
| 01:37.34 | alestane | Then no errors, I think. |
| 01:38.26 | Atriace | Well, either way, I'm properly writing the Frames now I think. It's working. :) |
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| 01:41.10 | Thrae|Work | Sometimes the Logs folder will appear on your desktop |
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| 02:21.35 | Lopeppeppy | Can anyone offer insight to the broken record? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4311210902&sid=1 I'm tapped out from his other threads. |
| 02:22.42 | kamdis | that one is driving me batty. I replied just a while ago in one of his other threads about Omen. |
| 02:23.24 | Lunessa | He needs a STFU stick. |
| 02:23.37 | Lunessa | LOL UR DOIN IT WRONG |
| 02:23.41 | Lopeppeppy | I think he rather does. |
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| 02:24.18 | kamdis | Where's |Jelly|? He should do it. |
| 02:25.25 | cogwheel | anyone use pop with their gmail account? |
| 02:26.23 | Lunessa | I haven't used my g-mail account in so long I can't remember the pwd. |
| 02:26.26 | WobWork | why when there's imap? |
| 02:26.41 | cogwheel | or for that matter... anyone know if deleting a message via pop will delete it from gmail entirely? |
| 02:26.46 | cogwheel | WobWork: backup |
| 02:26.55 | cogwheel | gmail's not invincible :P |
| 02:27.12 | cogwheel | s/gmail/google/ |
| 02:27.14 | cogwheel | imo |
| 02:27.26 | WobWork | cogwheel: it won't delete it from pop if you select "don't delete from server" when you're downloading |
| 02:27.36 | WobWork | since all you're doing is downloading a copy |
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| 02:28.30 | cogwheel | i'd rather delete them if that won't break anything.... |
| 02:28.47 | Lopeppeppy | kamdis -- I did my best, take a look! |
| 02:28.47 | cogwheel | personal preference on that one... |
| 02:30.31 | cogwheel | well, found my answer in a roundabout way... |
| 02:30.51 | cogwheel | read through their guide to setting up outlook express and they left "Leave a copy on teh server " unchecked |
| 02:30.56 | cogwheel | (quotes used loosely) |
| 02:38.05 | kamdis | Lopepeppy, nicely done. You have the patience of Job. |
| 02:38.42 | Lopeppeppy | It was still a No Stick, I was just polite about it. If he gets snarky at me, I'm going to feed him to |Jelly|. |
| 02:40.35 | Kaso | heh, a website has placed the cookie "eatscookies=yes" on my computer |
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| 02:45.16 | Legorol | goodnight to the fine folks of wowi-lounge |
| 02:45.22 | WobWor1 | hm |
| 02:50.21 | bleeter | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:51.21 | dylanm | Blood elf hunterrrr. |
| 02:51.28 | Corrodias | i can see Leotheras is going to be our "block |
| 02:51.41 | Corrodias | ". karathress is a piece of cake compared to him. |
| 02:54.12 | bleeter | dylanm: probably a very new player who'd being told lies by some old hand who got 'ripped off' at the AH in the hope they'll make the OP quit the game or cry or something (you know, usual jerk kinda behaviour - spread lies about the game rules) |
| 02:54.59 | Lopeppeppy | Corrodias, he stalled my raid for 8 weeks. He's a bastard, pure and simple. People have to get their inner demons. Send them all out to PvP some, for practice! |
| 02:55.11 | cogwheel | if cron is set to do something every 5 mins, will it wait until the previous one finishes first? |
| 02:55.16 | dylanm | I'd feel bad about that. At the same time, Gooooogle. |
| 02:55.44 | NightHawkTheSane | Lopeppeppy: pfft, pvp? you stand there and spam your nuke until it dies, its not rocket science :P |
| 02:55.51 | Thrae|Work | Everyone is in a constant struggle with their inner demons. A never-ending struggle. But defeating one of your inner demons does have great rewards. |
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| 02:57.08 | Shirik|Ecole | batrick |
| 02:57.09 | Shirik|Ecole | ping |
| 02:59.25 | Cairenn | lalala |
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| 03:07.35 | Shirik|Ecole | Anyone here use Eclipse for C++? |
| 03:07.44 | Shirik|Ecole | I guess C works too |
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| 03:26.46 | Duman | bleh |
| 03:27.13 | Duman | cog: no |
| 03:27.17 | Duman | oops, he's not here any more |
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| 03:33.57 | WobWor1 | yeah |
| 03:34.04 | WobWor1 | I was trying to tabcomplete his name too =\ |
| 03:41.47 | Guillotine | .net framework takes too long to install :( |
| 03:41.53 | Guillotine | They should ace it |
| 03:42.12 | Guillotine | but seriously, /nerf 1 hour install times |
| 03:43.40 | WobWor1 | s'true |
| 03:43.47 | WobWor1 | in other news, RSS on itouch is grate |
| 03:46.24 | JoshBorke | great |
| 03:47.24 | ralfWORK | yay 10 badges from badgezan |
| 03:47.28 | JoshBorke | bye bye |
| 03:47.46 | Cairenn | bye JoshBorke |
| 03:48.10 | WobWor1 | only 10? |
| 03:48.17 | ralfWORK | yea yea only 10 |
| 03:48.21 | WobWor1 | at least 22 I'd say? |
| 03:48.22 | ralfWORK | only had 2.5 hours |
| 03:48.24 | WobWor1 | ah |
| 03:48.35 | WobWor1 | (ignoring the beast bosses, 22) |
| 03:48.42 | ralfWORK | sorry, we aren't uber enough to clear the entire thing in 2.5 ;) |
| 03:48.49 | WobWor1 | work harder =) |
| 03:48.56 | ralfWORK | tryin! |
| 03:49.01 | ralfWORK | this was actually our best time yet |
| 03:49.01 | WobWor1 | you should chain pull the bosses! |
| 03:49.02 | Guillotine | wait, do the beast bosses drop badges? |
| 03:49.08 | WobWor1 | I think so =) |
| 03:49.15 | ralfWORK | oh, I got Surefooted too! |
| 03:49.15 | WobWor1 | I've never killed them =P |
| 03:49.17 | ralfWORK | woot! |
| 03:49.36 | WobWor1 | nice! |
| 03:49.38 | ralfWORK | stupid tank was wearing DPS gear for Maiden |
| 03:49.45 | ralfWORK | he forgot from Aran |
| 03:49.58 | ralfWORK | we cleared all the trash to maiden and killed her with his DPS gear |
| 03:49.59 | ralfWORK | lulz |
| 03:50.12 | Guillotine | aww, nope, no badges from beast bosses |
| 03:50.20 | WobWor1 | bah |
| 03:50.28 | WobWor1 | oh well 22 badges is not a number to sneeze at |
| 03:50.34 | ralfWORK | not at all |
| 03:50.45 | ralfWORK | considering I have 100+ that I have no real use for :P |
| 03:51.03 | WobWor1 | I want nether vortecies to be badgable |
| 03:51.37 | ralfWORK | heh. doubt they'll do that |
| 03:51.44 | ralfWORK | I want epic gems to be badgable |
| 03:52.13 | ralfWORK | (I doubt that will happen too) |
| 03:52.16 | Thrae|Work | I also beg for 2.4, just to make coding configuration menus easier :D |
| 03:59.33 | Duman | wtb 2.4 logging!@! |
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| 04:06.15 | Guillotine | goddamit |
| 04:06.24 | Guillotine | computer freezes in the middle of installing .net |
| 04:06.28 | Guillotine | 45 mins wasted :( |
| 04:06.32 | Cairenn | that sucks |
| 04:07.02 | Guillotine | yup :'( |
| 04:07.32 | Lunessa | Oh man does that suck. I had that happen trying to install it for Vista. I eventually downloaded the files on my XP box and copied them over. |
| 04:08.33 | Guillotine | hmm, this is vista |
| 04:08.39 | Guillotine | I really hope I don't have to do that |
| 04:10.42 | Guillotine | so has anybody actually tried the AddOnStudio for VS? |
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| 04:16.35 | Duman | Vista makes babyjesus cry |
| 04:17.04 | Iriel | Assuming that your religion card has supported drivers |
| 04:18.05 | Tuller | religion card? :P |
| 04:18.12 | Duman | hahah |
| 04:18.37 | Iriel | sorry, just bitter |
| 04:18.54 | Cairenn | evening Iriel |
| 04:18.58 | Duman | what's wrong? |
| 04:19.20 | Iriel | less than stellar vista experiences |
| 04:19.31 | Duman | ahh, that... |
| 04:19.33 | Duman | yes, likewise |
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| 04:20.37 | WobWor1 | heeh |
| 04:20.47 | WobWor1 | there's such a thing as a stellar vista experience? |
| 04:22.42 | Iriel | some people like it |
| 04:24.32 | Iriel | Did someone forget to give the residents of Farahlon a loot table? |
| 04:26.26 | Shirik|Ecole | Stupid question. "Priority inheritance" is a scheme to avoid priority inversion. So it "protects" the priority of various threads. |
| 04:26.40 | Shirik|Ecole | "int protocol -- PTHREAD_PRIO_INHERIT or PTHREAD_PRIO_PROTECT." |
| 04:26.52 | Shirik|Ecole | Am I right in assuming the first indicates that you want priority inheritance? |
| 04:26.59 | Shirik|Ecole | Just at a guess |
| 04:27.47 | Lunessa | Vista is installed only because I have to learn it. It's not pleasant. |
| 04:28.35 | Iriel | Shirik|Ecole: That would seem sane, and seem to be consistent with the documenttation |
| 04:28.57 | Lunessa | ciao tutti... I must away home. |
| 04:29.29 | Iriel | _INHERIT is traditional priority inversion |
| 04:29.35 | Iriel | _PROTECT is a somewhat different beast |
| 04:31.21 | Fisker- | hoho Iriel |
| 04:31.32 | Fisker- | if guid's are going to be kept through transfers and renames |
| 04:31.57 | Shirik|Ecole | T1 is high priority, T2 is medium, T3 is low. T3 holds a mutex and T1 pends on T3. T2 is ready. I want T3 to run before T2. This is my understanding of priority inheritance. I think it's right... |
| 04:31.58 | Fisker- | gonna make guild drama even funnier |
| 04:32.32 | Iriel | T1 pends on the mutex that T3 is holding? |
| 04:32.52 | Iriel | Fisker-: Aye |
| 04:33.21 | Shirik|Ecole | Right |
| 04:33.36 | Shirik|Ecole | T2 would normally be given rights to run before T3, but because T1 is pending on T3, T3 runs first. |
| 04:33.40 | Iriel | Shirik|Ecole: Then INHERIT means that as soon as T1 pends on T3, T3 inherits high priority |
| 04:33.47 | Shirik|Ecole | k that's what I want :) |
| 04:33.48 | Shirik|Ecole | Thanks |
| 04:35.01 | Iriel | Whereas with _PROTECT, if I read this correctly, as soon as T3 obtains the mutex, it would gain the ceiling priority of the mutex (unless it already had higher priority) |
| 04:35.16 | Shirik|Ecole | that's an interesting protocol |
| 04:35.23 | Shirik|Ecole | but far more than what I need |
| 04:35.48 | Iriel | I suspect that' |
| 04:36.00 | Iriel | That's a way of getting critical pieces of code executed at priority |
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| 04:38.24 | Shirik|Ecole | yeah |
| 04:38.50 | Shirik|Ecole | I just want to make sure my collision avoidance thread is running as quickly as possible :P |
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| 05:47.15 | Cairenn | lalala |
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| 05:53.26 | Keias | Does this mean you're going to sing for us Cairenn? |
| 05:53.36 | Cairenn | no, it means I'm bored |
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| 05:54.42 | Keias | Singing for us would be the greatest way of fixing the boredom :D |
| 05:58.36 | art3mis | anyone know of anhy good learn c# tutorials? |
| 05:58.55 | Shirik | art3mis: I made one |
| 05:59.02 | Shirik | it was only one sentence long |
| 05:59.08 | Shirik | "Turn back now, it's not too late." |
| 05:59.11 | art3mis | laugh |
| 05:59.29 | art3mis | I was looking at projects and 2 things struck me |
| 05:59.35 | art3mis | 1. I HATE the vs ide |
| 05:59.56 | art3mis | 2. if I didn't make it I'm lost for what headers its using in what files contain what functions |
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| 06:00.03 | Shirik | really? I actually love VS |
| 06:00.16 | art3mis | I was more a cd MUD |
| 06:00.17 | art3mis | ls |
| 06:00.21 | art3mis | type person ;P |
| 06:00.27 | art3mis | that's how I elarned ansi C |
| 06:00.37 | Shirik | Aye, and now QNX is making me work like that |
| 06:00.41 | Shirik | And I can't make the damn makefile work |
| 06:00.42 | art3mis | so the idea of a widowed environment for programmign is "odd" |
| 06:00.45 | Shirik | I think I finally got it tonight though |
| 06:01.05 | art3mis | so I need something super simply that will explain the ide to me as it goes |
| 06:01.20 | art3mis | and how headers get Integrated etc |
| 06:01.46 | Shirik | I don't know about C#, but if it's anything like C++, you have a header file and a source file for every class |
| 06:01.46 | art3mis | programming should NOT require a mouse ;P |
| 06:01.53 | Shirik | I rarely use a mouse |
| 06:01.58 | Shirik | VS has enough shortcuts |
| 06:02.15 | art3mis | that's just it though |
| 06:02.22 | art3mis | oh |
| 06:02.27 | art3mis | is c# .net implied? |
| 06:02.33 | Shirik | sure |
| 06:02.34 | art3mis | or should I have mentioned that before |
| 06:02.50 | Shirik | When anyone talks about C# they usually mean C# .NET because C# without .NET has no purpose |
| 06:02.54 | Shirik | might as well use another language |
| 06:03.25 | art3mis | okay so quick file run down |
| 06:03.28 | art3mis | .ca == .c |
| 06:03.30 | art3mis | err .cs |
| 06:03.53 | art3mis | and .resx == .h ? |
| 06:04.07 | art3mis | and the cproj is just so VS knows how to load it? |
| 06:04.15 | Shirik | cproj is just your project file |
| 06:04.25 | Shirik | resx is probably a .res file which will LOOK like a .h file but it's not really |
| 06:04.39 | art3mis | how does it differ? |
| 06:04.46 | Shirik | the fact that it's automatically generated |
| 06:04.58 | Shirik | and shouldn't be touched unless you want to kill VS's extra features |
| 06:05.08 | Shirik | it should even have an extra line in there saying that somewhere |
| 06:05.18 | art3mis | which "automagically" grabs funtions and such from .net? |
| 06:05.35 | art3mis | functions/behavior? |
| 06:06.03 | Shirik | for example, in C++ you can make a dialog by drag/drop, etc. It will create a .res file. This .res file will look like a .h file but you don't want to touch it unless you want the dialog editor to be saying "screw you" for the rest of the life of your project |
| 06:06.19 | Shirik | This assumes .res == .resx |
| 06:06.22 | Shirik | I don't know if this is true |
| 06:07.58 | art3mis | eww |
| 06:08.02 | art3mis | resx is an xml |
| 06:08.09 | Shirik | fun! |
| 06:08.10 | art3mis | I feel dirty |
| 06:08.14 | Shirik | Does it say anywhere in it "do not touch!!" |
| 06:08.22 | art3mis | nope |
| 06:08.38 | Shirik | TEH WINDOWS EXPLORER HAS STOPPED WORKING!! |
| 06:08.40 | art3mis | okay so lets skip ahead a bit |
| 06:09.02 | Shirik | in soviet russia, you crash windows. |
| 06:09.03 | Shirik | oh wait... |
| 06:09.06 | art3mis | if I have libs(.dlls) its generally better to have them within the directory? |
| 06:09.17 | Shirik | personal opinion, yes |
| 06:09.20 | Shirik | and for development, yes |
| 06:09.40 | art3mis | will they be compiled in or packaged with a release compile? |
| 06:10.17 | Shirik | yes, that's what resx was, btw |
| 06:10.32 | art3mis | sorry I emant that as an either or question |
| 06:10.34 | art3mis | meant |
| 06:10.52 | Shirik | That's up to you, art3mis |
| 06:10.53 | Shirik | You can do both |
| 06:10.57 | art3mis | oh okay |
| 06:11.15 | art3mis | so that's sort the diff between static and stripped compiles in C right? |
| 06:11.33 | art3mis | sorta |
| 06:13.24 | Shirik | sorta |
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| 06:14.56 | Shirik | #pragma region Windows Form Designer generated code |
| 06:14.58 | Shirik | wtf is that o.o |
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| 06:20.36 | Shirik | lua> string.char(tonumber("FD",16))..string.char(tonumber("10", 16)) |
| 06:20.36 | lua_bot | Shirik: ý |
| 06:21.00 | Fisker- | you deserve it |
| 06:23.14 | Shirik | 1110 1111 1011 0100 1001 0000 |
| 06:24.18 | Shirik | lua> return loadstring("return \"\\"..tonumber("11101111",2).."\\"..tonumber("10110100",2).."\\"..tonumber("10010000").."\"")() |
| 06:24.18 | lua_bot | Shirik: ï´d10000 |
| 06:24.20 | Shirik | =( |
| 06:24.32 | Shirik | I just want to see my basilisk! |
| 06:25.37 | art3mis | its underenderable! |
| 06:25.42 | art3mis | err -de |
| 06:26.12 | Shirik | oh |
| 06:26.16 | Shirik | that unicode sequence is invalid |
| 06:26.54 | Shirik | actually it's valid, it's just in the arabic form-a range |
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| 06:36.32 | MentalPower | whats the ace dev channel? |
| 06:40.51 | Arrowmaster | actually its invalid, its been marked as unusable in later versions of unicode |
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| 06:59.21 | Shirik | ? |
| 07:00.31 | Shirik | So you wash your fingers |
| 07:00.36 | Shirik | and then you don't do anything with them? |
| 07:00.53 | Shirik | Like what, to preserve their cleanliness? |
| 07:01.14 | Thunder_Child | WEB PAGES: |
| 07:01.14 | Thunder_Child | Female, because they're constantly being looked at and frequently getting hit on. |
| 07:01.23 | Thunder_Child | TIRES: Tires are male, because they go bald easily and are often over inflated |
| 07:01.39 | Thunder_Child | EGG TIMERS: Egg timers are female because, over time, all the weight shifts to the bottom. |
| 07:01.45 | Thunder_Child | TRAINS: Definitely male, because they always use the same old lines for picking up people. |
| 07:02.44 | Shirik | ~lart Thunder_Child |
| 07:02.44 | purl | installs a bad bootloader on Thunder_Child and turns Thunder_Child into a brick |
| 07:04.16 | Tem | What does "12 / 12 Marksmen Remaining" mean in Duskwallow marsh? |
| 07:05.46 | Shirik | huh |
| 07:05.47 | Shirik | that must be new |
| 07:05.51 | Shirik | sounds like a pvp thing |
| 07:06.33 | Tem | it does |
| 07:06.42 | Tem | but.. in duskwallow? |
| 07:06.47 | Shirik | yeah that confused me too |
| 07:07.20 | Thunder_Child | no, it's a quest Tem |
| 07:07.42 | Thunder_Child | you have to kill this boss thing in the bay, and you have 12 archer "helpers" |
| 07:07.52 | Thunder_Child | and you run around firing 3 diff cannons at it |
| 07:08.06 | Thunder_Child | and get knocked on your ass as the fish thing decrees |
| 07:08.06 | Lukian | if the archers reach zero, you fail, or if you fall in the water |
| 07:08.21 | Shirik | Seems like 2.3 brought a slew of changes to dustwallow marsh |
| 07:08.25 | Shirik | http://wowwiki.com/Dustwallow_Marsh#Zone_revamp |
| 07:08.52 | Thunder_Child | and as usual they spoofed history as it is based on tethyis |
| 07:08.56 | Thunder_Child | or however you spell it |
| 07:09.03 | Thunder_Child | mystical fish from the deeps |
| 07:11.14 | Iriel | night all |
| 07:11.19 | MentalPower | night Iriel |
| 07:12.29 | Cairenn | night Iriel |
| 07:14.03 | Tem | HOLY GOD THERES A SEA MONSTER CHASING ME |
| 07:14.08 | Tem | OH GOD ITS HUGE |
| 07:16.11 | Tem | Cairenn, http://www.wowhead.com/?screenshot=view&1.23899#60520 |
| 07:16.21 | Cairenn | ah |
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| 07:18.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Finally |
| 07:18.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Swift Flight Form |
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| 07:20.37 | Srosh | Grats. |
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| 07:34.35 | MentalPower | gnight all |
| 07:35.07 | Cairenn | night MentalPower|ZZzz |
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| 08:00.44 | Thunder_Child | ~lart the channel |
| 08:00.44 | purl | decapitates the channel conan the destroyer style |
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| 08:19.55 | kd3 | whee, finally. after a year, finally an upgrade from the GM 1-h caster sword |
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| 08:33.09 | Fin | for you? or in the game? :) |
| 08:33.20 | kd3 | me. just got the 1-h off gruul |
| 08:33.26 | Fin | woo, grats |
| 08:33.29 | kd3 | 946 unbuffed, +1236 with talents |
| 08:33.47 | Fin | there's not a huge selection |
| 08:33.55 | kd3 | no, no there isn't |
| 08:34.49 | Fin | I was thinking to go for the Continuum Blade before I did any checking, looks like that's pretty much the best there is anyway! (within my reach just now, that is) |
| 08:35.51 | Fin | and, mad that there's only two cloth bracers with +spell hit on them! unless I'm mistaken |
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| 08:41.32 | Srosh | There's only one healing neck in all of MH/BT and that's a paladin one. |
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| 08:42.21 | Wobin | every now and again I simply won't be able to type into the chatbox |
| 08:42.33 | Wobin | as soon as it comes up, it ignores all letter keystrokes |
| 08:47.18 | kd3 | oh. ya. something tells me this is going to be getting broken |
| 08:47.23 | kd3 | "Duke Nukem Forever confirmed for '08 release; PC, PS3 & 360" |
| 08:48.44 | Thunder_Child | Wobin, thats because it knows we dont want to read what you type |
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| 12:43.15 | Rayne | Anyone awake? |
| 12:43.43 | Beladona | no |
| 12:43.56 | nevcairiel | i'm half-asleep |
| 12:43.57 | Rayne | :( |
| 12:44.05 | Rayne | Anyone using the newest clearfont2? |
| 12:44.15 | Beladona | 2d? |
| 12:44.23 | nevcairiel | i think i updated, but i didnt login yet |
| 12:44.54 | Rayne | Its giving me problems for some reason. |
| 12:45.08 | Beladona | maybe something else messing with it |
| 12:45.21 | Rayne | Nah, im still using the same stuff as always. |
| 12:45.37 | Rayne | Just my fonts above NPCs heads went from normal to friggin hideous. |
| 12:45.51 | Rayne | And I dont know why. |
| 12:46.10 | Beladona | I will do some testing here shortly |
| 12:46.18 | Beladona | I have it though, and no problems like that |
| 12:46.38 | Rayne | The only way to get them to look normal is to disable clearfont, which leads to the secondary issue of my fonts being beyond too small to read. |
| 12:46.55 | nevcairiel | maybe it was because of the thing kirk changed, and changed back |
| 12:46.58 | nevcairiel | did you update today? |
| 12:47.05 | Rayne | like not even an hour ago |
| 12:47.07 | Beladona | oh I take that back |
| 12:47.11 | Beladona | I am not using the same one |
| 12:47.16 | Beladona | 2d is different |
| 12:47.36 | nevcairiel | let me login, wonder if i have that too |
| 12:47.42 | Rayne | kk |
| 12:47.50 | Rayne | im uploading Screenshots to show you what I mean |
| 12:48.14 | nevcairiel | hm my names look fine |
| 12:50.10 | Rayne | http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v442/SinOfDreams/?action=view¤t=Without.jpg |
| 12:50.27 | Rayne | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/SinOfDreams/with.jpg |
| 12:50.46 | Beladona | that looks normal |
| 12:51.04 | Beladona | or what I would expect anway from a font change |
| 12:51.09 | nevcairiel | it looks like the font changed, size seems to be the same |
| 12:51.12 | Rayne | Its never looked like that. :/ |
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| 12:52.21 | Crysli | I read a threat on the forums about Clearfont acting up. I don't know if it's only the most recent version causing it, though. |
| 12:52.28 | Crysli | thread, even |
| 12:53.06 | Rayne | Im going to try to install the CF2 from my BBC10 zip and see what happens. |
| 12:53.12 | Rayne | If it stays the same its something I did |
| 12:53.43 | Rayne | Which the only thing ive done to the UI is remove alphablending, because its giving me and aparently everyone using the newest version alot of taint errors. |
| 12:53.56 | nevcairiel | alphablending? |
| 12:54.10 | Crysli | Oh, btw Rayne, your new UI is sexy. |
| 12:54.54 | Rayne | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6966-AlphaBlending.html |
| 12:54.58 | Rayne | ty :) |
| 12:55.05 | Rayne | Ok |
| 12:55.12 | Rayne | Its something with the new version. |
| 12:55.17 | Rayne | The old ones not doing it. |
| 12:55.53 | Beladona | what did you do with chat? |
| 12:55.56 | Beladona | oh nm |
| 12:56.36 | Rayne | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full11259.jpg OOC, http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full11260.jpg IC. Thats what Alphablending did. |
| 12:57.27 | Rayne | I could add anything I wanted to that list though. Omen, Minimap, Chat. Text, whatever I wished. |
| 12:57.35 | Crysli | That's awesome. |
| 12:57.43 | |pez| | Oh I am so lame http://pezville.myminicity.com/ |
| 12:57.57 | Crysli | Yeah that's pretty lame. :) |
| 12:58.00 | Rayne | |pez|: http://rayneville.myminicity.com/ =P |
| 12:58.11 | |pez| | haha :D |
| 12:58.34 | Crysli | ~kill Rayne |
| 12:58.35 | purl | ACTION shoots a super-inverse anti-tachyon gun at Rayne |
| 12:58.39 | Rayne | :< |
| 12:59.15 | Crysli | Mwehehe :D |
| 12:59.20 | Rayne | I still love myself for how little memory BBC takes. |
| 12:59.41 | Crysli | How much? |
| 12:59.51 | Rayne | Currently idle and not raiding, 28mb. |
| 13:00.00 | Rayne | Raiding it goes to 32mb at most. |
| 13:00.12 | Crysli | Ooh. |
| 13:00.29 | Crysli | Hold on, lemme check what my last screenshot says. |
| 13:00.51 | Crysli | 39mb when not raiding. |
| 13:01.46 | Crysli | And I have a constant fps of 17 :( |
| 13:02.05 | Rayne | im getting 27-30 in shatt in windowed |
| 13:02.06 | |pez| | my fps is like 20 at most. |
| 13:02.16 | Rayne | 20-22ish when moving |
| 13:02.19 | |pez| | on a normal day, when I'm doing nothing |
| 13:02.32 | Crysli | My fps goes to 0 when I'm flying. |
| 13:03.01 | Crysli | But then again, I only have 512 megabytes of ram, so it's undertsndable. |
| 13:03.25 | |pez| | I have 2GBs of RAM... |
| 13:04.42 | Rayne | same, 2 gigs |
| 13:04.44 | Crysli | :( |
| 13:04.48 | Rayne | my video card is the pits though |
| 13:05.06 | Crysli | I'm not even going to think about mine. |
| 13:05.07 | |pez| | I have a radeon x600 or 800 mobile. |
| 13:05.55 | Crysli | Quartz doesn't support outline on text, does it? |
| 13:06.14 | Rayne | Negative |
| 13:06.28 | Crysli | Well that's a shame. |
| 13:07.27 | Rayne | I should drag my arse to bed. |
| 13:07.41 | Rayne | But I need to decide if I want to play with this UI version more or not. |
| 13:07.42 | |pez| | bed is overrated! |
| 13:07.58 | Rayne | Its probably going to become Burnt Black Cherry Lite |
| 13:08.03 | Rayne | cause it looks NOTHING like BBC10 |
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| 13:08.15 | Rayne | save the EBB |
| 13:08.20 | Crysli | :D |
| 13:08.32 | Crysli | It's 2pm here so I'm not going to bed anytime soon. |
| 13:09.47 | Rayne | Im just debating if im going to stop using the buff icons for EBB |
| 13:10.12 | Crysli | That depends. Do you ever use them? |
| 13:10.49 | Rayne | I dont play a buffing class between my 3 70s, so no. :P |
| 13:10.59 | Crysli | Then lose them. |
| 13:11.16 | Crysli | It's not like it's hard to enable them for anyone who doenloads it. |
| 13:11.32 | Crysli | Well, on the Eu servers it could be, actually... |
| 13:11.33 | Rayne | yeah' |
| 13:12.03 | Rayne | I got so many friggin PMs on WoWInterface about people saying I should enable Auras on my Pitbull Frames. |
| 13:12.05 | Rayne | Im like. |
| 13:12.06 | Rayne | Why. |
| 13:12.42 | Crysli | Yeah |
| 13:12.52 | Rayne | I actually STOPPED using Debuff frames recently, in favor of ClassTimers. As a tank I really only care if my Sunders are there. :P |
| 13:12.56 | Rayne | or my Lock DoTs |
| 13:13.03 | Rayne | or w/e my Hunter is using lol |
| 13:13.14 | Rayne | That and it looks alot cleaner |
| 13:13.24 | Crysli | Why don't you use EBB for target debuffs, then? |
| 13:13.35 | Rayne | I dont know HOW to do that. |
| 13:13.47 | Rayne | Well |
| 13:13.48 | Rayne | I do. |
| 13:13.50 | Rayne | But. |
| 13:14.03 | Rayne | It would take up way too much screen space |
| 13:14.16 | Crysli | Orly? |
| 13:14.21 | Cide | all I hear is QQ |
| 13:14.34 | Rayne | Especially since my target frame lays at the bottom of the screen. |
| 13:14.46 | Rayne | Well, near it. |
| 13:14.51 | Rayne | Cide: Q_Q |
| 13:16.05 | Rayne | Oh, check this out... |
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| 13:17.37 | Rayne | This is why I stopped using Alphablending, I got 6 pms in one day saying almsot the same thing... |
| 13:17.45 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 13:17.57 | Rayne | "I noticed that the Alphablending mod caused a huge taint log in my log folder. I had only been using it for one day it had already created a 500 meg log file! Not sure if it is doing it on all the versions, but its something you may want to check into." |
| 13:18.19 | Rayne | One guy reported 300, one guy showed me an SS of his log at 220... |
| 13:18.31 | Crysli | Well, isn't it from, like, September 2007? |
| 13:18.47 | Rayne | Yes, but until this Tuesday, it never gave me that problem. |
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| 13:22.05 | Cide | CTRA causes a 2gb taint log every time you /reloadui |
| 13:22.07 | Cide | true story |
| 13:22.12 | Cide | (well, almost) |
| 13:22.55 | Rayne | CT... |
| 13:23.20 | Rayne | I remember when my old guild REQUIRED us to have it to raid. God I used to lag soooooo bad. |
| 13:23.30 | Cide | yeah. I know rite. |
| 13:23.37 | Cide | wait, what are you saying? |
| 13:24.00 | Rayne | that CT was a giant memory hog |
| 13:24.18 | Cide | and by CT you mean CT_RaidAssist |
| 13:24.25 | Cide | I'm guessing? |
| 13:24.49 | Rayne | anything with the CT_ tag generally was. :/ |
| 13:24.56 | Cide | oh, really? |
| 13:25.03 | [Ammo] | that would be bullshit |
| 13:25.55 | Cide | that is a huge crap of bullshit, if I may say so myself |
| 13:26.47 | Cide | CTRA I will agree with you to an extent, but if you extend it to encompass all of our mods, you're plain wrong buddy |
| 13:28.59 | Rayne | So explain to me how from going to a raiding standpoint on a computer pretty well for its time, gig of ram, 6 Series nVidia and a P4 would lag down to 20fps in a raid, but if I logged out in a raid and came back with them off id magicly be up 15fps? |
| 13:29.11 | Rayne | Im not trying to lie to you, im telling you from personal experience. |
| 13:29.12 | Cide | see previous statement |
| 13:30.04 | Cide | I'll agree that CTRA uses up a lot more resources than it should. do you have any personal experience regarding the blanket statement you pulled regarding all of our other mods? |
| 13:30.12 | Cide | yes? no? |
| 13:30.41 | nevcairiel | CTRA was the only addon really being bad, oh and CT_BossMods =P, altho CT_MailMod is like the last of those i still use |
| 13:31.36 | Cide | many of our addons have been phased out and/or implemented in the standard ui (which is nice) |
| 13:31.54 | Crysli | Man, Quartz bars are hard to find a good color for. |
| 13:31.54 | Cide | CT_MailMod, CT_BuffMod and CT_Core are the most up-to-date right now, I'd say |
| 13:31.59 | Cide | Rayne: well? |
| 13:32.07 | Rayne | I never at one point bashed everything youve done, I only said they were resource hogs, nothing more. |
| 13:32.18 | Cide | which is exactly that: bashing |
| 13:32.32 | Cide | given that none of it is true, other than CTRA |
| 13:32.33 | Rayne | bashing would be saying your mod fucking sucks, which it didnt. |
| 13:32.44 | Cide | CTRA fucking sucks. there. bash it all you want |
| 13:33.01 | Cide | however, "<Rayne> that CT was a giant memory hog" "<Rayne> anything with the CT_ tag generally was. :/" |
| 13:33.05 | Cide | feel like backing that up? |
| 13:33.09 | [Ammo] | saying it's a resource hog to a programmer who attempts to make things efficient (mailmod, bbuffmod) = bashing |
| 13:33.22 | Crysli | Good point Ammo. |
| 13:33.57 | Elkano | well, people also tend to say M$ produces crap ;) |
| 13:34.09 | Rayne | Look, im not going to sit here and take this. I said one thing which you even admitted I was right to, and youre going to keep jamming this in my face. I used all your mods back in the pre BC days, and the only time I experienced true performance hits was having them enabled. |
| 13:34.27 | Rayne | You can take that any way you like, because all im telling you is thats how it was. |
| 13:34.30 | Elkano | but it's correct CT_BuffMod wasn't that bad last time I checked its code |
| 13:34.38 | Rayne | I havent touched a CT Mod since BC came out. |
| 13:34.50 | Josh_Borke | Elkano: are you kidding me?! CB_BM BLOWS! |
| 13:35.05 | Rayne | So if youve done something to vastly improve it, I applaud you, youve done a great job on improving a really useful mod. |
| 13:35.07 | Cide | Rayne: but you still pulled a blanket statement regarding all of our mods, saying they were performance hogs when you have no hard evidence, or even data |
| 13:35.19 | Elkano | Josh_Borke, for marketing reasons I'm not going to say sth like that :P |
| 13:35.28 | Cide | the only thing you really saw was CTRA sucking, which you're right, I admitted to |
| 13:35.35 | Rayne | Do you HONESTLY think im going to have Screenshots on my UIs from ~3 years ago to prove this to you? |
| 13:35.46 | Cide | no, I don't care about evidence |
| 13:35.59 | Cide | I'm just asking you: did you really test things to see if your assumptions were correct? |
| 13:36.08 | Rayne | yes. Many times. |
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| 13:36.30 | Cide | and you found out that CT_MasterMod, CT_BuffMod, CT_BarMod, CT_BottomBar, CT_UnitFrames, what have you, all are resource heavy? |
| 13:36.41 | Rayne | At the time they were, yes. |
| 13:36.42 | Cide | because they weren't. CTRA was, and I suspect you simply assumed that they all were |
| 13:36.49 | Cide | no. they weren't |
| 13:37.07 | Cide | I'm glad that you at least think you tested it. that's better than simply assuming it |
| 13:37.23 | Cide | Elkano: I'll go as far as saying the code is better than your mod ;) |
| 13:38.04 | Cide | but I can't say I've looked at EBB recently |
| 13:38.13 | Rayne | Since I like being here and asking for help now and then, ill refrain from saying anything else. |
| 13:38.25 | Josh_Borke | Cide: except it doesn't do what I want! i had to hack it :-P |
| 13:38.27 | Cide | good, you probably should |
| 13:38.31 | Cide | well |
| 13:38.33 | Cide | I'm not an admin |
| 13:38.46 | Rayne | I wouldnt care if you were. |
| 13:39.10 | Cide | then you should say it anyway so I can have some fun |
| 13:39.15 | Rayne | Ok. |
| 13:39.16 | Rayne | Fine. |
| 13:39.19 | Cide | Josh_Borke: that would be what, more specifically? |
| 13:39.28 | Cide | I can't remember if you told me |
| 13:39.31 | Crysli|lunch | Cide: Working. :D |
| 13:39.38 | Cide | Crysli|lunch: clearly :P |
| 13:39.53 | Cide | oh, the textures thing? |
| 13:40.11 | Rayne | So youre going to tell me, someone whos played this game since beta, ive done nothing but personal customization from the start, that has probably tried most of the mods developed out there that im a liar for saying something about your mods? |
| 13:40.17 | Rayne | Youre honestly, 100% telling me |
| 13:40.22 | Josh_Borke | Cide: putting the icons on the left hand side of the buff |
| 13:40.24 | Rayne | That theres no way I actually tested what I just said |
| 13:40.33 | Cide | Josh_Borke: what? |
| 13:40.38 | Rayne | And that I must be wrong, even though CT was the best available? |
| 13:40.42 | Cide | I have the icons to the left of the buff |
| 13:40.44 | Rayne | That I must be wrong. |
| 13:40.46 | Josh_Borke | i don't have a SS of it |
| 13:41.31 | Josh_Borke | but i did talk to you about it |
| 13:41.52 | Cide | Rayne: no, I'm simply saying that if you're saying that most of our mods (hell, 50% even, which would be the minimum amount required to satisfy your statement) were resource hogs, you're wrong |
| 13:42.03 | Josh_Borke | or maybe on the right? i have 2 toons and they are both opposite |
| 13:42.28 | Cide | as long as you don't make shit up, I don't care. saying stuff without testing is stupid as hell, so if you did tests and they came out that way, good |
| 13:42.36 | Cide | maybe you did the tests wrong, who cares |
| 13:42.43 | Cide | but it simply wasn't the case |
| 13:42.55 | Cide | Josh_Borke: I think it supports both of those |
| 13:43.45 | Rayne | I love how youre just calling me a liar. |
| 13:43.47 | Rayne | This is so grand. |
| 13:44.04 | Crysli | It's scary :> |
| 13:44.06 | Cide | and you're saying I don't know what my own mods do. that's awesome |
| 13:44.39 | Rayne | Consider it blunt feedback from the past, from someone who experienced it firsthand, not a negative comment. |
| 13:44.45 | Rayne | Hows that? |
| 13:44.56 | Cide | no, I consider it an incorrect blanket statement |
| 13:45.09 | Cide | but at least you tested it, so I'm not complaining that much |
| 13:45.13 | Rayne | Then thats your problem for looking at it that way, for its not. |
| 13:45.38 | Cide | well, you suck. consider it blunt feedback from present time |
| 13:46.12 | Cide | (that was a joke :P) |
| 13:46.25 | Rayne | meh |
| 13:47.04 | Cide | Josh_Borke: you can have the icons on the right side and left side |
| 13:47.19 | Cide | Josh_Borke: but the buff name is always next to the icon. did you want the time left there or something? |
| 13:47.19 | Josh_Borke | i think it had to do with the way the bars shrank |
| 13:47.23 | Rayne | I should probably hop on the WoWace boards and make a post about that clearfont bug... |
| 13:47.37 | Josh_Borke | yea, i think that was it |
| 13:47.45 | Josh_Borke | i always wanted it to be Buff Name - Time <icon> |
| 13:47.54 | Cide | ya, that can't be done by default |
| 13:48.48 | Cide | CT_BuffMod uses less CPU time than CT_Timer, that's amazing |
| 13:48.51 | Cide | I should recode _Timer |
| 13:49.00 | Rayne | gah I need to figure out what to do with this Pet frame... |
| 13:49.04 | Cide | not that anyone uses it besides me, but still |
| 13:49.07 | Rayne | Its like hanging out in the middle of nowhere. |
| 13:50.09 | dieck_ | Rayne: middle of nowhere? definitely Desolace :) |
| 13:50.25 | Crysli | Yeah, that would be a good spot to put the pet frame. |
| 13:50.53 | Rayne | dieck_: I was thinking more of Thousand Needles |
| 13:51.07 | Crysli | No wai |
| 13:51.18 | Crysli | 1k needles is awesome for farming Iron. |
| 13:51.21 | dieck_ | hm, no, tn is too near to gadgetzan |
| 13:51.31 | Crysli | I don't want any pet frames takin' all my Iron. |
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| 13:51.41 | Rayne | rofl |
| 13:51.49 | dieck_ | maybe north eastern swamps of sorrow? |
| 13:52.00 | Crysli | Is there any iron there? |
| 13:52.08 | Rayne | nah, I farm my whelp pets in Swamp of Sorrows |
| 13:52.11 | dieck_ | like thorium in silithus :) |
| 13:52.29 | dieck_ | Rayne: the green ones? |
| 13:52.42 | Rayne | Yeah |
| 13:52.47 | Rayne | Ive gotten 2-3 |
| 13:52.59 | Rayne | I go like once a month out of boredom, and usually one will drop |
| 13:53.01 | dieck_ | I'm farming blue whelps in Mazthoril - my druid can get there in no time via moonglade, whenever i have nothing to do :) |
| 13:53.07 | Cide | southern winterspring? |
| 13:53.13 | dieck_ | got 1 blue so far. sold for 850g ;) |
| 13:53.17 | Cide | nobody uses eyes of shadow anymore |
| 13:53.33 | Rayne | Actually |
| 13:53.57 | Rayne | Im going to have to shoot at badlands |
| 13:53.59 | dieck_ | Cide: it a good place to farm orbs of deception, though. got 3 already :) |
| 13:54.26 | dieck_ | Rayne: me hunter grinded for red whelps there for 4 or 5 levels |
| 13:54.28 | dieck_ | :) |
| 13:54.28 | Rayne | Seriously, http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/SinOfDreams/WoWScrnShot_020708_064942.jpg Any ideas? Im fresh out minus where it currently sits. :/ |
| 13:54.41 | Rayne | dieck_: ewww |
| 13:55.16 | Rayne | oh hey, I havent turned off ML Icons for party yet. |
| 13:55.17 | Crysli | Hm, that's a tough one Rayne. |
| 13:55.21 | dieck_ | Rayne: 3rd char, went there, laptop on lap, tv tuned to a good show and just autoshoot :) |
| 13:56.21 | Crysli | How about between the player frame and the bar in the middle? |
| 13:56.46 | Rayne | would be way too crushed. Probably barely able to read the name. :/ |
| 13:57.06 | Rayne | In other words, tried that. :P |
| 13:57.12 | Crysli | The name of your pet? |
| 13:57.19 | Crysli | Because that's important to know 8D |
| 13:57.25 | Rayne | It is! |
| 13:57.29 | Rayne | I love AbsolutCat! |
| 13:57.32 | Rayne | and HotWings! |
| 13:58.33 | Crysli | ...below the action bars? |
| 13:58.35 | Rayne | Oh man, I wish I had fraps. I had an epic AV moment the other day. |
| 13:58.51 | Rayne | On my prot tank. Charged into like 30 horde, they were all beating on me... |
| 13:59.03 | Rayne | healadin from my guild following me around DIs me. |
| 13:59.33 | Rayne | Horde continue to attack mindlessly. |
| 13:59.36 | Rayne | Was so amazing. |
| 14:00.08 | Crysli | Now, to make that moment perfectly you should've snuck out, leaving the Horde beating each other. |
| 14:00.32 | Rayne | Crysli: Im almost tempted to just disable it, and download a hunter mod that autofeeds my pet. |
| 14:00.54 | Rayne | Because MSBT will still pick up my pets low health warning, so I know when to throw it a mend. |
| 14:00.59 | Crysli | Is that all you're using the frame for? |
| 14:01.30 | Rayne | Yeah, its honestly the only bar in the UI thats not constantly deep red. :P |
| 14:01.53 | Crysli | Hold on for a second then. |
| 14:02.05 | Rayne | kk |
| 14:02.33 | Crysli | There are dogtags for that, and I'm not sure, but you should be able to use them on your own unitframe or something like that. |
| 14:03.19 | Crysli | I'd do something like [~IsMouseover ? [HappyText] ] |
| 14:03.50 | Rayne | [Name] [AFKDND:Angle][LeaderShort:Paren] [MasterLooter ? Text(ML):Paren] Eliminates ML and Leader Icons, looks so much cleaner. |
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| 14:04.58 | Crysli | [Outline][HasCurseDebuff?Name:Color(11cc11)!HasPoisonDebuff?Name:Green!HasDiseaseDebuff?Name:Color(1111cc)!Name] |
| 14:05.14 | Crysli | Wonderful for dispelling classes. |
| 14:05.32 | Rayne | I dont have any 70 buff classes. |
| 14:05.33 | Rayne | :( |
| 14:05.51 | Crysli | Me neither. |
| 14:05.57 | Crysli | I have a level 50 mage though. ^^ |
| 14:06.08 | Crysli | Aaaaand that's my only toon. |
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| 14:07.11 | Rayne | 70 Warrior, Warlock, and as of 2 days ago, Huntard. |
| 14:07.27 | Crysli | :( |
| 14:07.33 | Crysli | I should really start leveling. |
| 14:07.35 | Rayne | Why arent the Ironforge Guards showing up as Elite? O_o |
| 14:07.53 | kadrahil | 70 hunter horde, 62 priest alliance, 31 paladin horde, 28 shaman alliance |
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| 14:08.00 | kadrahil | all on pvp servers <3 |
| 14:08.45 | Rayne | btw, if any of those 'fake' 2.4 Lock Notes are real, and they nerf them that hard for pve, ill probably delete my lock, or just stop playing. |
| 14:08.47 | kadrahil | my priest has more gold from levelling and selling enchanting mats than my hunter does, and he has his epic flyer :/ |
| 14:08.58 | Rayne | So pay attention to Craiglist in the next 2 months, you might see an account for sale. |
| 14:09.05 | kadrahil | lol |
| 14:09.06 | Crysli | :O |
| 14:09.53 | Crysli | Damn you, Quartz! |
| 14:09.58 | RayneSleeps | night all |
| 14:10.02 | RayneSleeps | wifes dragging me to bed |
| 14:10.06 | kadrahil | at 8am? |
| 14:10.11 | RayneSleeps | 7am <_< |
| 14:10.15 | kadrahil | :S |
| 14:10.22 | Crysli | Poor you. |
| 14:10.30 | kadrahil | i never went to bed last night |
| 14:10.32 | Crysli | Night. |
| 14:10.45 | kadrahil | well i fell asleep from like 10 to 2:30 |
| 14:14.10 | ralfWORK | lol I saw the lock stuff |
| 14:14.18 | ralfWORK | that's a hardcore nerf, if it's real |
| 14:14.47 | Crysli | Link please. |
| 14:14.51 | Crysli | Oh hey ralf. |
| 14:15.03 | ralfWORK | O HAI |
| 14:16.07 | ralfWORK | 5 bosses in 2.5 hours last night |
| 14:16.32 | Crysli | :> |
| 14:17.25 | Crysli | My stomach hurts. |
| 14:17.35 | ralfWORK | :( |
| 14:18.04 | Crysli | And Idunno why, because I had lunch already. |
| 14:18.46 | ralfWORK | cleaned up my UI some |
| 14:19.00 | ralfWORK | I remember why I had grid as shadow now |
| 14:19.20 | ralfWORK | dispelling holy fires during maiden :( |
| 14:20.07 | Crysli | Got a screenshot of the new and hopefully improved UI? |
| 14:20.12 | ralfWORK | naw |
| 14:20.19 | ralfWORK | it's not exactly done |
| 14:20.30 | Crysli | Well, got a WIP screenshot, then? |
| 14:20.44 | ralfWORK | but basically, I removed the portraits from raid members |
| 14:20.56 | ralfWORK | put the name outside the frame, colored by class |
| 14:21.03 | ralfWORK | and made the healthbars grey/white |
| 14:21.15 | Crysli | And red with aggro? |
| 14:21.18 | ralfWORK | ya |
| 14:21.42 | ralfWORK | kept the Energy bars their natural color |
| 14:21.53 | ralfWORK | which I thought would be good, |
| 14:22.10 | ralfWORK | but I need to do something with because the blue for mana... I can't even see it |
| 14:22.42 | Crysli | Is it 'drowning' in all the white? |
| 14:22.50 | |pez| | Man, I love folks who whine about having backproblems, use and buy shoes like http://www.naughtyshadows.no/ns/popup_image.php?pID=871&image=0 - when they also whine about not being able to afford doctors that can help with the problem. |
| 14:23.31 | ralfWORK | naw, it's just that I can't see the blue because Kara is dark |
| 14:23.41 | Crysli | Make it lightblue |
| 14:23.43 | ralfWORK | so it's a dark color on a dark color |
| 14:23.54 | ralfWORK | ya |
| 14:24.08 | Crysli | I made mana white. |
| 14:24.21 | ralfWORK | I moved my target frame and player frame below my toon |
| 14:24.36 | ralfWORK | not sure if I like that... I'm too used to looking to the top of the screen |
| 14:24.59 | ralfWORK | could just take practice though |
| 14:25.15 | Crysli | I know it took practice for me. |
| 14:25.31 | Crysli | Hold on, I actually think I have one of my old UIs lying around somewhere. |
| 14:27.04 | Crysli | http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/7618/razakeluiva0.jpg |
| 14:27.08 | Crysli | That's hideous lol |
| 14:27.35 | ralfWORK | hey that's not horrible |
| 14:27.39 | ralfWORK | better than mine |
| 14:27.54 | |pez| | My UI pretty much looks default. |
| 14:27.56 | Crysli | Trust me, it's horrible. |
| 14:28.01 | |pez| | + Titan bar |
| 14:28.07 | ralfWORK | I suffer from too-much-crap-on-the-screen syndrome |
| 14:28.16 | ralfWORK | but it's getting better |
| 14:28.19 | Crysli | Lol, I actually found all my old Uis. |
| 14:28.20 | Crysli | http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/4830/sunhornuici5.png |
| 14:29.09 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 14:29.40 | ralfWORK | I'm going to have to see... I like the square minimaps I think though |
| 14:30.08 | Crysli | They're a lot easier to integrate into a UI. |
| 14:30.17 | ralfWORK | and one of these days I might have enough room for my CT Buffbar |
| 14:30.21 | Crysli | Ooh, this one I actually still like - a bit |
| 14:30.23 | Crysli | http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/7571/combatuisp7.jpg |
| 14:31.36 | ralfWORK | the thing is, I have a good bit of mods that put buttons on the minimap |
| 14:32.06 | Crysli | Such as? |
| 14:32.14 | ralfWORK | I have tons :P |
| 14:32.22 | ralfWORK | pitbull, omen, logger, uhm |
| 14:32.25 | Crysli | Get Fubar. |
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| 14:33.02 | ralfWORK | is there something magic in it that takes crap off the minimap and puts it in a bar? |
| 14:33.10 | Crysli | Yes. |
| 14:33.17 | ralfWORK | hmm. ok might have to do that |
| 14:33.26 | Crysli | Most Ace2 addons can plug into FuBar. |
| 14:33.46 | ralfWORK | I do like how your player bar is integrated in that last screenshot |
| 14:34.02 | ralfWORK | I have to steal that |
| 14:34.27 | Crysli | Steal away. I haven't used any of those for like eight months. |
| 14:34.32 | ralfWORK | rofl |
| 14:34.53 | ralfWORK | possibly put focus target opposite your target frame |
| 14:34.58 | ralfWORK | that might work out well actually |
| 14:35.13 | Crysli | Oh god. |
| 14:35.20 | Crysli | I thought I'd lost that forever. |
| 14:35.24 | Crysli | http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/4038/artsyuivx2.jpg |
| 14:35.44 | ralfWORK | woah |
| 14:35.49 | ralfWORK | ok that's a bit out there! lol |
| 14:35.58 | Crysli | Exactly. |
| 14:36.15 | ralfWORK | what is the thing on the right side |
| 14:36.16 | ralfWORK | uhm... |
| 14:36.24 | ralfWORK | says 176 |
| 14:36.25 | Crysli | The circle thing? |
| 14:36.33 | ralfWORK | yellow circle |
| 14:36.33 | ralfWORK | ya |
| 14:36.36 | Crysli | That's Venantes, it's a Hunter Mod. |
| 14:36.39 | Crysli | WOrks like Necrosis. |
| 14:36.59 | ralfWORK | don't know what necrosis does |
| 14:37.04 | ralfWORK | isn't that some warlock mod? |
| 14:37.14 | Crysli | yep |
| 14:37.17 | Crysli | Go look. |
| 14:38.31 | Crysli | I think I'll go watch a movie. You guys have fun while I'm poor and sick :( |
| 14:38.38 | ralfWORK | feel better :( |
| 14:38.46 | Crysli | Thanks. |
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| 14:40.18 | malreth | hey... i made the motd |
| 14:42.16 | ralfWORK | huh? |
| 14:42.19 | ralfWORK | oh you mean the topic? |
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| 14:51.51 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 14:53.15 | ralfWORK | oh! |
| 14:53.20 | ralfWORK | I got surefooted last night! |
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| 14:58.20 | dieck_ | ralfWORK: got the recipe, or found someone to enchant it? ;) |
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| 14:59.12 | ralfWORK | dieck_: got the recipe :D |
| 14:59.25 | ralfWORK | so I have mongoose and surefooted now |
| 14:59.35 | ralfWORK | the resto druid in our guild got sunfire recently too |
| 15:00.47 | dieck_ | hm, I got mongoose, sunfire, soulfrost, executioner, but surefooted got snapped by a lock, and now he's stopped playing and my source for that enchant went offline |
| 15:00.58 | dieck_ | good money makers |
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| 15:01.12 | ralfWORK | ya, goose has been good for me. I need to advertise more. |
| 15:01.23 | dieck_ | on my server it was 25g moongoose/sunfire/soulfrost, recently dropped to 20g. executioner is 40g common price |
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| 15:05.04 | ralfWORK | very nice |
| 15:05.11 | ralfWORK | sadly, we don't kill illhoof |
| 15:05.25 | ralfWORK | need to man up and do it someday |
| 15:07.32 | malreth | too many imps |
| 15:07.34 | malreth | must aoe |
| 15:07.37 | malreth | no... |
| 15:07.38 | ralfWORK | yes. that's why we don't do him |
| 15:07.40 | ralfWORK | no lock |
| 15:07.40 | malreth | noooo... |
| 15:07.41 | ralfWORK | no pally |
| 15:07.48 | malreth | they're focus firing me |
| 15:07.55 | malreth | spell pushback... NOOOO!!!! |
| 15:08.02 | Shirik | "symphonic power metal" |
| 15:08.05 | ralfWORK | rofl |
| 15:08.06 | Shirik | what's an interesting genre |
| 15:08.28 | Shirik | s/what/that/ |
| 15:08.54 | Shirik | according to wikipedia, that's what I've been listening to >.> This is what happens when you let wikipedia nutsos edit things they think they know everythinga bout |
| 15:11.15 | Shirik | this song's about a flower? |
| 15:11.24 | Shirik | I think I'll ignore the lyrics of songs from now on and listen to the tones |
| 15:11.27 | Shirik | that's the interesting part anyway |
| 15:14.20 | Shirik | ~hug Maldivia |
| 15:14.21 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs Maldivia |
| 15:14.23 | Shirik | ~hug malreth |
| 15:14.24 | purl | ACTION hugs malreth |
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| 15:14.37 | Shirik | ~hug MentalPower |
| 15:14.37 | purl | ACTION jumps into MentalPower's lap and huggles and *hugs* MentalPower |
| 15:15.16 | Shirik|AFK | er |
| 15:15.22 | Shirik|AFK | s/malreth/malreth fall down/ |
| 15:16.20 | MentalPower | ~hug Shirik |
| 15:16.20 | purl | ACTION hugs Shirik |
| 15:17.24 | MentalPower | purl, you're late |
| 15:17.36 | MentalPower | purl, you're slow |
| 15:17.37 | purl | i'll take that as a complement |
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| 16:33.46 | sag_ich_nicht | I have a bug to report concerning WoW under windows in OpenGL mode, it's not properly setting to fullscreen, causing always on top applications to still show. |
| 16:34.30 | sag_ich_nicht | someone care to post it in the bugreport forums for me please? :O |
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| 16:35.06 | Lopeppeppy | *pokepokepoke* |
| 16:35.41 | Lopeppeppy | Whee, look who I woke up! |
| 16:35.54 | Lopeppeppy | And |pez|, g'morning! |
| 16:36.08 | |pez| | good almost evening! |
| 16:37.19 | |Jelly| | Hell, it's noon where Peppy is. :P |
| 16:37.25 | |Jelly| | 'morning' jeez :P |
| 16:37.54 | Lopeppeppy | Almost lunchtime, and I ain't got no stinkin' entree. |
| 16:37.55 | |pez| | Do any of you guys run something else than Opera, Firefox, and IE on Windows? (like.. Safari on Mac or whatnot) |
| 16:38.16 | |Jelly| | Firefox :-\ |
| 16:38.42 | Bela|work | I use brail, and an imagination |
| 16:38.56 | |Jelly| | Hell yeah! |
| 16:39.03 | |pez| | So far my sites Horrible Hacks(tm) work on Opera, FF and IE. and they look like 99.999% the same. |
| 16:41.02 | Lopeppeppy | I have Opera, multiple versions of IE, Firefox, Netscape and access to Safari for my webwork. |
| 16:41.11 | Lopeppeppy | The multiple IE program is hawt in the extreme. |
| 16:41.26 | |pez| | Could you run http://pez.selfip.net:8090/dev/ccdevnet/c2reborn/template.php trough some of those? |
| 16:41.39 | |pez| | you can probably skip FF and Opera. |
| 16:41.48 | |pez| | And yes, there are horrible hacks. |
| 16:41.56 | |pez| | but they seem to be sneakily working. |
| 16:42.25 | Bela|work | here's hoping IE8 lives up to the hype |
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| 16:43.58 | Lopeppeppy | IE 6, IE7, Netscape 9, Firefox 2.0.0.11 -- all good. Safari is out of my reach until way after lunchtime, since I'm mired in a project right this very now. |
| 16:44.23 | |pez| | Lopeppeppy: thanks ^^ |
| 16:46.19 | Lopeppeppy | NP, my browsers are always at your service. |
| 16:47.09 | zenzelezz | Netscape is already at 9? |
| 16:47.28 | Lopeppeppy | Yup. |
| 16:47.59 | |pez| | I look forward to the 15th this month |
| 16:48.12 | |pez| | folks are going off my server! .. and I get to redo it |
| 16:48.27 | Lopeppeppy | Spring cleaning is always a must. If I get past the 14th, I'll look forward to the 15th too. |
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| 17:01.08 | zenzelezz | Azure Whelpling prices don't quite seem to have settled on my realm... three on AH; 200-230g, 350-450g and (!) 500-750g |
| 17:01.26 | |pez| | 0____o |
| 17:01.31 | Lopeppeppy | That's quite the differenc.e |
| 17:02.16 | Atriace | I wonder if there's any realm that has a stable, realistic economy. |
| 17:02.40 | Lopeppeppy | In our dreams! |
| 17:02.42 | zenzelezz | usually not overall, but for certain items there's usually a balance |
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| 17:03.28 | |pez| | Lopeppeppy: spring cleaning happens on the 14th? :P |
| 17:04.17 | Lopeppeppy | No. I survive that blasted Valentine's holiday as a separated married chick, and wash him out of my hair by spring cleaning on the 15th. :) |
| 17:05.11 | |pez| | Ooh |
| 17:05.20 | |pez| | Right |
| 17:05.26 | |pez| | V.Day... |
| 17:05.33 | |pez| | Overrated and horrible XD |
| 17:05.47 | Lopeppeppy | Bleh. I've always thought that, it's not just sour grapes for this year's meltdown. |
| 17:05.47 | |pez| | I don't like it, and I actually have someone to share it with! |
| 17:09.53 | clad|office | anyone here work for the IRS? |
| 17:10.16 | |pez| | IRS? ^^ I don't remember what that stands for.. |
| 17:10.16 | clad|office | or know a cheap tax lawyer? |
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| 17:44.25 | ralfWORK | *yawn* |
| 17:44.32 | Lopeppeppy | Twice. |
| 17:44.36 | kamdis | ditto |
| 17:44.44 | ralfWORK | k |
| 17:44.51 | kamdis | ~hug Lopepeppy |
| 17:44.52 | purl | ACTION hugs Lopepeppy tightly until Lopepeppy turns slightly blue |
| 17:45.01 | ralfWORK | I'm tired of people taking half an hour to see if raid loot is an up |
| 17:45.12 | ralfWORK | think 30s is too short of a time until sharding? |
| 17:45.13 | ralfWORK | :P |
| 17:45.16 | dylanm | Hah. |
| 17:45.31 | Lopeppeppy | ralfWORK -- recommend Rating Buster to them, and set a limit of say... 2 minutes. |
| 17:45.49 | ralfWORK | I might just say, when the roll timer goes away, I'm sharding everything on the body |
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| 17:46.16 | ralfWORK | bullshit to spend more time talking about loot than killing the boss |
| 17:47.24 | kamdis | You could always suggest they review the relevant drops in advance on wowhead so they know what's an upgrade. |
| 17:47.44 | kamdis | But then, I'm one of those who keeps a wishlist. |
| 17:47.47 | dylanm | Same. |
| 17:47.57 | dylanm | That might be good policy to establish. |
| 17:48.01 | ralfWORK | I have a wishlist |
| 17:48.08 | ralfWORK | I know exactly what pieces I'm looking for |
| 17:48.14 | ralfWORK | I'm also good |
| 17:48.17 | dylanm | If you don't have such a policy then I don't know how harsh you can be but eh. |
| 17:49.03 | kamdis | In the old serious business raid days, our raid leaders would put up and NECB timer when they called for bids. |
| 17:49.27 | ralfWORK | kamdis: oh interesting idea |
| 17:49.40 | ralfWORK | I tried NECB once, looked crappy, so I stopped it |
| 17:49.48 | kamdis | you can macro it too, but if everyone doesn't have NECB they can't all see the timer bar. |
| 17:49.55 | kamdis | We did that for "break time" too |
| 17:50.29 | dylanm | NECB will get better! |
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| 17:50.38 | Lopeppeppy | NECB is gonna rule post 2.4! |
| 17:50.39 | dylanm | p |
| 17:50.42 | dylanm | :p * |
| 17:50.49 | kamdis | of course :) |
| 17:50.58 | Bela|work | I am already hving my way with necb |
| 17:51.01 | Bela|work | =P |
| 17:51.23 | Bela|work | it is currently amaciated, because I wouldn't let it eat for a month |
| 17:51.24 | ralfWORK | how does it get better in 2.4? |
| 17:51.31 | Bela|work | not I am starting to feed it health food |
| 17:51.40 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr, Bela. |
| 17:52.07 | dylanm | Because Bela is rewriting it pretty much, because he's a glutton for punishment. |
| 17:52.18 | Bela|work | meh it was easy |
| 17:52.22 | Bela|work | I already finished the library |
| 17:52.24 | dylanm | The author had to stop playing. |
| 17:52.34 | Bela|work | just waiting for 2.4 ptr to test the combat log stuff |
| 17:52.40 | dylanm | And from what I read of the source and what he was willing to add he was a little crazy. |
| 17:52.48 | kamdis | If you need testers, I'll volunteer. :) |
| 17:52.50 | ralfWORK | ah k |
| 17:52.52 | Bela|work | I will warn you |
| 17:52.58 | Bela|work | a lot os being axed |
| 17:53.00 | Bela|work | is* |
| 17:53.08 | kamdis | such as? |
| 17:53.14 | Bela|work | just the stupid little things |
| 17:53.15 | dylanm | For the love of God remove the PvE timers. |
| 17:53.24 | dylanm | Nooo business being in there. |
| 17:53.25 | Bela|work | why? |
| 17:53.33 | kamdis | I like the pve timers |
| 17:53.37 | dylanm | I retract my statement. |
| 17:53.38 | Bela|work | BossTimers are staying |
| 17:53.40 | kamdis | trash respawn ones, especially |
| 17:53.43 | Bela|work | specifically trash timers |
| 17:53.49 | [Liquidor] | What do you think of my UI on this one? http://www.stage6.com/user/Liquidon/video/2201361/ |
| 17:53.51 | kamdis | <3 |
| 17:53.52 | dylanm | Isn't that taken care of by like a million other mods? |
| 17:53.59 | Bela|work | so? |
| 17:54.03 | ralfWORK | I could use a trash timer :P |
| 17:54.04 | Bela|work | my whole guild uses it for that |
| 17:54.09 | kamdis | not in my UI |
| 17:54.11 | dylanm | I don't want to argue that that's a reason to nottt do it. |
| 17:54.27 | Lopeppeppy | I like having one mod that does multiple things. I like NECB because I don't need 8 mods to do all of it. Just one. |
| 17:54.29 | dylanm | But it's just... a lot. Keeping track of things going on was already a big task. |
| 17:54.32 | Bela|work | understand that this is being built as an embedded library |
| 17:54.37 | ralfWORK | I'm always forgetting to put the trash at the curb on Tuesdays |
| 17:54.42 | Bela|work | ecbBossTimers can be standalone |
| 17:54.46 | Bela|work | but you don't NEED to install it |
| 17:54.47 | dylanm | If you're willing to split it out then that's grand. |
| 17:55.10 | Bela|work | each module is its own addon |
| 17:55.17 | Bela|work | with no dependencies |
| 17:55.35 | dylanm | Fair enough. |
| 17:55.40 | Bela|work | and the config - wew |
| 17:55.53 | dylanm | Yeah that. |
| 17:55.57 | Bela|work | no more "hey lets show PvE and PvP options, even though we only have PvP installed |
| 17:56.09 | dylanm | I guess that's what makes me think "oh God this thing needs to be pared down." |
| 17:56.35 | dylanm | Are you going to try to separate timers out by units like DoTimer attempts to do? |
| 17:56.51 | dylanm | That's the exciting bit of 2.4 if I understand Slouken correctly. |
| 17:56.58 | Bela|work | I am toying with the idea of allowing the user to sort them any way they want |
| 17:57.07 | Bela|work | based on certain attributes |
| 17:57.12 | Bela|work | unit being one of them |
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| 17:57.28 | Bela|work | but not sure that will be in the first release |
| 17:57.30 | ralfWORK | Bela|work: I assume you are the author of NECB? |
| 17:57.34 | Bela|work | one of |
| 17:57.38 | ralfWORK | cool |
| 17:57.40 | Bela|work | Limited and Funkey are too |
| 17:57.54 | ralfWORK | gotcha |
| 17:58.00 | batrick | Shirik|AFK: i don't use eclipse for writing my C code |
| 17:58.43 | Bela|work | my first library tests allowed me to create a group, with 5 timers, using only 7 lines of code |
| 17:59.19 | Bela|work | its pretty simple, and even supports graphical templating for the bars |
| 17:59.48 | Bela|work | and will fallback to default graphics if no template is used |
| 17:59.54 | kamdis | Liquidor: Looks nice. |
| 18:01.00 | Saint-N | batrick |
| 18:01.06 | Saint-N | how does ecplise compare to VS? |
| 18:01.09 | Saint-N | ecplise |
| 18:01.15 | Saint-N | spelt correctly |
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| 18:01.52 | Saint-N | hey bela |
| 18:02.02 | Saint-N | ya know what would be neat for a timer bar type addon? |
| 18:02.18 | Saint-N | one based on solo party raid |
| 18:02.28 | Bela|work | hmm? |
| 18:02.32 | batrick | Saint-N: i don't use VS either :P |
| 18:02.32 | Saint-N | so it shows them or doesn't show em in different locations/sizes |
| 18:02.32 | Bela|work | please splain |
| 18:02.47 | Saint-N | depending on whether you're in a group party or raid |
| 18:02.49 | batrick | I've only used an IDE for Java |
| 18:02.56 | batrick | for which it was exceptionally useful |
| 18:02.57 | Saint-N | instead of the one size fits all that seems to exist |
| 18:03.00 | Bela|work | for... what? buffs? |
| 18:03.08 | Saint-N | buffs, respawns etc |
| 18:03.20 | Saint-N | respawns == user createable timers |
| 18:03.58 | Saint-N | batrick: heh I'm gonna start learning c# |
| 18:04.05 | Bela|work | sorry my brain must be in lala land, because I am not sure what you mean |
| 18:04.08 | Saint-N | but I'm used to ansi C opn nix machines |
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| 18:04.41 | Saint-N | Bela|work: ya know how elks buff bars for example are always in the same location regardless of whether you're in a part solo or in a raid? |
| 18:04.51 | Saint-N | same location/size ? |
| 18:05.07 | Bela|work | yeah, typical of a buff frame |
| 18:05.35 | Saint-N | essentially what I'm talking about would be a display profile, based on group(solo party raid) self created timers, buffs etc |
| 18:05.36 | Bela|work | you want to be able to split them out by group? |
| 18:05.41 | Saint-N | no |
| 18:05.58 | Saint-N | I want them to auto load in a different location if I join a party than if I'm solo |
| 18:06.06 | dylanm | He's talking about profiles that get loaded based on the size of his group. |
| 18:06.06 | Saint-N | with different settings |
| 18:06.15 | Bela|work | different groups based on group status |
| 18:06.16 | Saint-N | a buff profile system |
| 18:06.22 | Bela|work | that could be a sort option |
| 18:06.30 | Saint-N | no not by groups or group size |
| 18:06.45 | Saint-N | lets say I hyave my timer/bars in the upper left while I'm running aropund solo |
| 18:07.24 | Saint-N | I join a group and for whatever reason I want that same group to be smaller than what it was when solo and in the middle right of the screen and only display ebneficial |
| 18:07.30 | Saint-N | beneficial |
| 18:07.57 | Bela|work | the way it is done now, I have groups, and I have timers. Timers can be homed to any group, depending on your sort options. Each group has its own set of timer "slots". I don't currently have a limit, but I may add one as an option |
| 18:07.58 | Saint-N | then if I switch into a raid it makes them even smaller but uses small icons and a class colour |
| 18:08.17 | Bela|work | the groups are what get placed |
| 18:08.22 | Bela|work | where you want them |
| 18:08.22 | Saint-N | but the location size and what it shows changes automagically depending on wether I'm solo, in a group or in a raid |
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| 18:08.58 | Atriace | hehe... "automagically" |
| 18:09.01 | Saint-N | am I making sense to anyone but me? |
| 18:09.07 | Atriace | That's a Jobs euphamism |
| 18:09.18 | Saint-N | actually its not ;) |
| 18:09.20 | Atriace | No no. You're making tons of sense. |
| 18:09.22 | Bela|work | the sort idea would allow that |
| 18:09.42 | Saint-N | automagically was the ircii people ;P |
| 18:09.45 | Bela|work | there are different sort levels |
| 18:09.45 | Shirik|AFK | batrick: Why not! I thought eclipse was the ultimate IDE?! |
| 18:09.59 | Bela|work | a sort for which group gets timers based on the sort options |
| 18:10.07 | Saint-N | Bela|work: and it would automove where its displayed and scale it? |
| 18:10.08 | Bela|work | and a sort for how they are ordered in that group |
| 18:10.19 | Saint-N | ignore other people |
| 18:10.27 | Saint-N | I'm talking ONLY what *I* see |
| 18:10.27 | Bela|work | that could be done |
| 18:10.42 | Bela|work | I would need to add options to change template paramters per group |
| 18:10.47 | Bela|work | and per sort |
| 18:10.59 | Bela|work | basically "profiles" like you described |
| 18:11.01 | Saint-N | I could care less if group 5 was shown, so much as that its shown somewhere else with a different scale and a different filter than if I was just in a 5-man |
| 18:11.13 | Bela|work | my main concern right now though |
| 18:11.20 | Bela|work | is to rewrite necb as it is now |
| 18:11.26 | Bela|work | with cleanup along the way |
| 18:11.36 | |pez| | Uh, oops. |
| 18:11.36 | Bela|work | I can always add new features after that |
| 18:11.44 | Bela|work | but if I try to do too much now, it will take a long time |
| 18:12.09 | Saint-N | I think a profile "chronometer" would be sexy if it changed like the trinity does for its bars (in combat, out of combat, shadow form, in a city) |
| 18:12.14 | Saint-N | profiled |
| 18:12.15 | Bela|work | the sort options is probably going to be very limited at first |
| 18:13.13 | Bela|work | there is still a lot to do. I haven't even started writing teh aprsing engine for teh new combat log |
| 18:13.22 | Bela|work | for obvious reasons |
| 18:13.29 | batrick | Shirik: I use vim like a real man |
| 18:13.36 | ralfWORK | are the changes on PTR yet? |
| 18:13.41 | ralfWORK | damn yes VIM > * |
| 18:13.42 | Bela|work | ptr isn't up yet |
| 18:13.43 | Shirik | I use vim too :P But qnx doesn't have one |
| 18:13.45 | dylanm | PTR isn't up. |
| 18:13.50 | ralfWORK | ok |
| 18:14.05 | Bela|work | it will eb up when its up (tm) |
| 18:14.09 | Bela|work | lol |
| 18:14.16 | ralfWORK | hah |
| 18:14.16 | kd3 | bah, why does no one ever get my name right? |
| 18:14.19 | batrick | i consider eclipse useful for understanding foreign code though |
| 18:14.23 | Saint-N | vim is for mexican cleaners |
| 18:14.29 | Saint-N | nano rules the world |
| 18:14.29 | Lopeppeppy | Hai 2 U, kDfree! |
| 18:14.30 | batrick | #defs scattered everywhere |
| 18:14.44 | Saint-N | if you don't could the emacs ^M ^S ^butterfly |
| 18:14.44 | batrick | lolnano |
| 18:14.52 | Saint-N | could == count |
| 18:15.01 | ralfWORK | lol@nano |
| 18:15.02 | |pez| | I really need to stop talking about certain things with the boyfriend when he's IRCing at work.. |
| 18:15.09 | Saint-N | I lurv nano |
| 18:15.09 | Shirik | nano = crap, sorry Saint-N |
| 18:15.13 | Saint-N | all the fun of pico |
| 18:15.19 | ralfWORK | nano is for nubs |
| 18:15.21 | Shirik | Every time Andrew uses it |
| 18:15.32 | Saint-N | a baby seal dies? |
| 18:15.37 | Atriace | This is so exasperating. I wish there was a way to search only the API portion of wowwiki.com |
| 18:15.39 | Shirik | I'm like "I'm going to go walk away now so I don't catch your disease" |
| 18:15.41 | Shirik | and a baby seal dies |
| 18:15.45 | Shirik | and then I go stab a kitten |
| 18:15.46 | ralfWORK | there's a few boxes I have access too, |
| 18:15.46 | Saint-N | heh I like nano |
| 18:15.54 | ralfWORK | that have EDITOR set to nano |
| 18:16.02 | ralfWORK | and every time I log into them and edit something |
| 18:16.03 | batrick | nano is for script kiddies |
| 18:16.07 | ralfWORK | I curse something fierce |
| 18:16.11 | batrick | batbot amirite? |
| 18:16.11 | batbot | batrick, \(o_O)/ |
| 18:16.16 | batrick | stupid bot |
| 18:16.18 | Saint-N | vi is for people that like to think thier leet |
| 18:16.20 | Saint-N | ;P |
| 18:16.28 | batrick | think and r right |
| 18:16.29 | haste | ralfWORK: heh, I don't cure myself when I encouter that, but I do attempt to use macros in it, x300 :p |
| 18:16.34 | ralfWORK | Saint-N: they think they are because they actually are |
| 18:16.39 | Saint-N | nah |
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| 18:17.01 | Saint-N | emacs and vi zealots just prove that thier of the mindset that makes cult life perfect ;P |
| 18:17.07 | Shirik | I think Saint-N doesn't like vim because he can't remember all the buttons and commands |
| 18:17.17 | Saint-N | speaking of which anyone wanna join a cult? |
| 18:17.20 | Shirik | Though in all honesty I don't know many myself, but it works :P |
| 18:17.25 | ralfWORK | I trained myself to use vi movement keys on dvorak because of vi |
| 18:17.28 | ralfWORK | and solaris |
| 18:17.32 | ralfWORK | and their stupid terminal settings |
| 18:17.35 | Kaso | The cult of vi? |
| 18:17.41 | Saint-N | actually I never liked 6 because I could use the (esc) properly when telnetting through datapac |
| 18:18.04 | Saint-N | so I just got used to pico and joe and nano |
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| 18:18.50 | Saint-N | but to be fair an editor needs to have 3 things for me |
| 18:19.10 | Saint-N | 1. search and replace 2. highlight and 3.cut and paste |
| 18:19.13 | Saint-N | that's ALL I need |
| 18:19.17 | Saint-N | everything else is fluff |
| 18:19.42 | Kaso | 1a)search and replace that supports regex |
| 18:19.48 | Bela|work | amen |
| 18:19.51 | batrick | just because you are incapable of being more effecient doesn't mean we are |
| 18:20.01 | Bela|work | and not that crappy subset of regex some editors like to use |
| 18:20.02 | batrick | :) |
| 18:20.29 | Shirik | I don't even have to push a button to start typing a regex |
| 18:20.32 | Shirik | I just start typing it |
| 18:20.34 | Saint-N | batrick: name one thing more than those 4 things that you would need? |
| 18:20.38 | Shirik | and automagically vim knows what I mean |
| 18:20.44 | Saint-N | since 1a is totally valid ;P |
| 18:20.50 | Shirik | And that is the beauty of Vim. It gets to know you. You become one with it. |
| 18:20.54 | batrick | deleting multiple lines via command line |
| 18:21.07 | Saint-N | sed much? |
| 18:21.08 | batrick | copy pasting quickly (not lol ctrl+c ctrl+v) |
| 18:21.17 | batrick | ok let me go to command line and do that |
| 18:21.26 | batrick | sorta takes away from productivity don't you think? |
| 18:21.39 | Saint-N | you said command line ;P |
| 18:21.51 | batrick | so? |
| 18:21.54 | Shirik | You don't need to go to command line |
| 18:21.54 | Saint-N | a commandline within the editor doesn't make it any less of a commandline ;P |
| 18:21.59 | Shirik | you just put a ! and BAM you have command line |
| 18:22.00 | Shirik | whooo |
| 18:22.12 | Saint-N | nano has shellexec |
| 18:22.14 | batrick | then you are saying you need a comjmand line in your editor? your requirement list grows |
| 18:22.30 | Saint-N | batrick: I never said I needed the commandline |
| 18:22.32 | ralfWORK | sed is an excellent editor |
| 18:22.33 | Saint-N | you did ;P |
| 18:22.38 | Shirik | Saint-N, write up an SRS for your editor :) |
| 18:22.42 | Saint-N | I'm telling you the alteratives to 6 |
| 18:22.42 | ralfWORK | works just fine! |
| 18:22.45 | batrick | then you can't tell me you can use one and say I needn't worry about it |
| 18:22.55 | Saint-N | although I suppose you'd using 600 |
| 18:23.06 | Saint-N | VIM |
| 18:23.13 | Saint-N | or would that be 6100 |
| 18:23.16 | batrick | whatever this argument is stupid |
| 18:23.28 | Shirik | I don't use vim, I use cat |
| 18:23.30 | Shirik | And I did yesterday |
| 18:23.34 | Saint-N | batrick: so its your zealotry twards which editor someone should use ;P |
| 18:23.35 | batrick | go have fun with your terminal notepad leave us hardcore people alone :P |
| 18:23.43 | ralfWORK | you don't need cat |
| 18:23.49 | Shirik | No external connections other than a serial port |
| 18:23.56 | ralfWORK | sed can just edit tehfiles |
| 18:24.05 | Shirik | cat /dev/ser0 > /some/folder |
| 18:24.06 | Shirik | win |
| 18:24.47 | Shirik | if I were hardcore I'd have known how to pipe it into gcc |
| 18:24.53 | Shirik | but I don't :< |
| 18:25.30 | |Jelly| | Shirik: Are you ready? |
| 18:25.35 | batrick | it's rly hrd |
| 18:25.38 | Shirik | for? |
| 18:25.39 | |Jelly| | !vs us burning legion jelly us drenden kimina |
| 18:25.44 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Jelly vs Kimina! Two 70 priests square off!; 18/43/0 vs 42/19/0; Kimina wins by 364 TBRs! |
| 18:25.48 | |Jelly| | Fail spec holy 4tl! |
| 18:25.56 | Shirik | I'll be holy tonight, it's ok |
| 18:27.15 | Guillotine | !vs us drenden kimina us draenor cayduim |
| 18:27.44 | Guillotine | why doesn't it like me? :( |
| 18:27.53 | batrick | why is there a ninja in slouken's employ |
| 18:28.38 | Bela|work | ninja? |
| 18:28.42 | Bela|work | is it a ninja monkey? |
| 18:28.43 | Shirik | !vs us drenden kimina us draenor cayduim |
| 18:28.46 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Kimina vs Cayduim! Two 70 priests square off!; Kimina wins by 684 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 18:28.50 | Shirik | ouch |
| 18:29.16 | Thunder_Child | !vs us draenor prismatic us draenor cayduim |
| 18:29.23 | ralfWORK | how many TBRs does it have to be in order to be owned? |
| 18:29.55 | Bela|work | mm, apparently someone ran away from that fight |
| 18:29.59 | Shirik | probably 500 |
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| 18:30.35 | |pez| | I'd probably suck donkeyballs compared to you guys XD |
| 18:30.42 | Saint-N | !vs us echo isles rozalyn drenden kimina |
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| 18:30.54 | Saint-N | !vs us echo isles rozalyn us drenden kimina |
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| 18:30.57 | ThraeBot | Saint-N: Rozalyn vs Kimina! Two 70 priests square off!; 23/0/38 vs 42/19/0; Kimina wins by 75 TBRs! |
| 18:31.06 | Saint-N | woo |
| 18:31.07 | ralfWORK | ewww disc |
| 18:31.08 | Thunder_Child | !vs us draenor prismatic us draenor cayduim |
| 18:31.12 | Saint-N | that's yer first win evah! |
| 18:31.17 | Thunder_Child | weird |
| 18:31.25 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, http://gizmodo.com/353655/perepiteia-perpetual+motion-machine-may-actually-dosomething |
| 18:31.37 | ralfWORK | !vs us elune nightface us drenden kimina |
| 18:31.40 | ThraeBot | ralfWORK: Nightface vs Kimina! Two 70 priests square off!; 14/0/47 vs 42/19/0; Kimina wins by 176 TBRs! |
| 18:31.48 | ralfWORK | ouch! |
| 18:31.59 | |pez| | okok, someone try taeri from EU sporeggar towards any of you guys. *cough* :P |
| 18:32.00 | ralfWORK | last time I mess with kimina |
| 18:32.34 | ralfWORK | !vs us elune nightface eu sporegarr taeri |
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| 18:32.35 | Shirik | there has to be something wrong about that |
| 18:32.40 | Shirik | it's impossible |
| 18:32.43 | Shirik | energy can't be created |
| 18:33.05 | |pez| | did not work ;__; |
| 18:33.07 | Shirik | but if it really is possible, that's ... kinda big |
| 18:33.09 | ralfWORK | UNPOSSIBLE |
| 18:33.17 | Shirik | I want to spend more time researching it but I have to finish something first |
| 18:33.46 | zenzelezz | I wish the Armory would stop bugging my character |
| 18:33.59 | zenzelezz | it updates my gear and buffs, but messes up my guild membership and other tabs |
| 18:34.25 | kamdis | people in my guild are having those issues also zen |
| 18:34.54 | Lopeppeppy | Forums are fubared that way too , lately. |
| 18:34.57 | Saint-N | !vs us echo isles rozalyn eu sporegarr taeri |
| 18:34.58 | ThraeBot | Saint-N: I failed on the second listed character. You half-fail. |
| 18:35.13 | ralfWORK | ahahaahaah |
| 18:35.18 | Saint-N | !vs us echo isles rozalyn eu sporeggar taeri |
| 18:35.21 | ThraeBot | Saint-N: Rozalyn vs Taeri! Rozalyn has +9 lvls on Taeri (70 vs 61); A L70 priest and a L61 hunter square off!; 23/0/38 vs 51/0/0; Rozalyn wins by 863 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 18:35.31 | ralfWORK | eeek |
| 18:35.34 | |pez| | XD |
| 18:35.38 | |pez| | I knew that'd happen |
| 18:35.40 | Saint-N | it should say that anytime its priest vs hunter ;P |
| 18:35.45 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 18:35.50 | Saint-N | hunters are preist food, always have been always will be |
| 18:35.51 | ralfWORK | warlocks |
| 18:36.13 | |pez| | does that thing take gear into account? |
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| 18:36.27 | Saint-N | yup but not actualy real world |
| 18:36.28 | |pez| | I have horrible gear :) |
| 18:36.32 | Saint-N | actual |
| 18:36.35 | Shirik|zZz | that's pretty insane Thunder_Child |
| 18:36.44 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/353860/dealzmodo-free-4-gb-kingston-elite-pro-compact-flash-card |
| 18:36.47 | Saint-N | its kinna cool |
| 18:36.50 | |pez| | I also have all my points in beast mastery atm.. |
| 18:36.51 | Thunder_Child | heh, thought you had work Shirik|zZz |
| 18:36.57 | Shirik|zZz | I do |
| 18:37.02 | Shirik|zZz | but I get distracted easily |
| 18:37.05 | Thunder_Child | indeed |
| 18:37.11 | Saint-N | the thing that would make it even cooler is that supposedly bessler made it over 100 years ago ;P |
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| 18:38.55 | Shirik|zZz | I really want to know wtf is going on there |
| 18:38.57 | Guillotine | Anybody remember the function to get a unit's faction association (e.g. Cenarion Expedition, Ironforge rather than Alliance) |
| 18:38.57 | Bela|work | the implications though. mmmm. I kinda hope it gets proven |
| 18:39.12 | Shirik|zZz | Bela|work: I hope it gets disproven |
| 18:39.18 | Bela|work | why? |
| 18:39.19 | Shirik|zZz | I don't need to learn another whole set of EE! |
| 18:39.24 | Bela|work | lol |
| 18:39.31 | Bela|work | I am thiking about real world applications though |
| 18:39.35 | Shirik|zZz | totally agree |
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| 18:39.56 | Shirik | lol |
| 18:40.00 | Shirik | the gas companies will be pissed |
| 18:40.04 | Bela|work | no kidding |
| 18:40.13 | ralfWORK | holy shit |
| 18:41.11 | Shirik | I want to know how he eliminated the back emf, as he claims, though. That's a big problem. |
| 18:41.27 | Shirik | He just completely removed one of the most famous laws of EE.... |
| 18:41.49 | Shirik | anyway I have to run |
| 18:41.50 | Shirik | take care |
| 18:41.58 | Shirik|AFK | I should ask Liu about this one :P |
| 18:41.59 | Thunder_Child | he might not have completely removed it, but dampened it enough to make it not interfere |
| 18:42.11 | Shirik|AFK | "Oh no no, he is, uh, some kind of freak!" |
| 18:42.23 | Shirik|AFK | He's said it before >< |
| 18:43.52 | kd3 | whee, shuttle launch today |
| 18:44.05 | ralfWORK | nice |
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| 18:49.28 | Saint-N | kd3: live webcast? |
| 18:49.40 | Thunder_Child | yep |
| 18:49.45 | kd3 | http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/live_tv_rd.html |
| 18:49.49 | Thunder_Child | they are preping atm |
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| 18:50.04 | Saint-N | ya know as boring as it is it's still somehow super facinating |
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| 18:50.27 | malreth | ~seen lunessa |
| 18:50.31 | purl | lunessa <n=Lunessa@129.7.93.92> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 14h 21m 34s ago, saying: 'ciao tutti... I must away home.'. |
| 18:51.46 | ralfWORK | Thunder_Child: this? http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/fail-shuttle.jpg |
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| 18:52.43 | Lunessa | ... station |
| 18:53.09 | malreth | wow... i managed to conjure Lunessa with but a thought |
| 18:53.26 | Lunessa | I worry that you're thinking of me. |
| 18:53.58 | malreth | i wasn't... not until 3 minutes ago |
| 18:54.04 | Saint-N | only 3 mins |
| 18:54.06 | |Jelly| | There was quite a bit of gay shit going on in regards to you, Lunessa. |
| 18:54.06 | Saint-N | wow |
| 18:55.05 | Duman | o.O |
| 18:55.25 | Lunessa | I already told malreth I wouldn't sleep with him... To his FACE. |
| 18:55.47 | malreth | my face doesn't care if you sleep with me... talk to the CROTCH. |
| 18:56.28 | ralfWORK | rofl |
| 18:56.33 | |Jelly| | I rest my case. |
| 18:57.03 | Lunessa | See ... asshole |
| 18:57.36 | |Jelly| | *shrug* |
| 18:57.58 | |Jelly| | As long as I have my kamdis and my peppy lurve, I'm good; the rest of you can bugger off! :P |
| 18:58.22 | |Jelly| | You have Josh, Cairenn. |
| 18:59.48 | Lunessa | I lub you Cairenn - You're way prettier than malreth. |
| 18:59.59 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 19:00.02 | |Jelly| | You just like looking at the picture of her ass. :P |
| 19:00.04 | malreth | this is true |
| 19:00.23 | Bela|work | there is a picture of her ass? I don't believe that. Its hard enough to get a picture period |
| 19:00.40 | malreth | i bet i could get a picture |
| 19:00.47 | Bela|work | better men have tried |
| 19:01.14 | malreth | that's why i wouldn't try |
| 19:01.17 | malreth | i'd succeed |
| 19:01.27 | Bela|work | last time we got a picture of Cairenn, we got flagged pvp |
| 19:02.25 | |pez| | you guys are weird 0.o |
| 19:02.42 | Bela|work | thank you |
| 19:06.00 | Guillotine | hmm. Is there no way to get unit faction affiliation (e.g. Ironforge, Cenarion Circle) without tooltip scanning? o.O |
| 19:06.33 | |pez| | Bela|work: you're welcome!:D |
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| 19:08.51 | Lunessa | Guillotine: Nope, not possible without parsing the tooltip |
| 19:09.01 | Guillotine | wow, thats annoying |
| 19:09.02 | Guillotine | thanks :) |
| 19:09.30 | Lunessa | Cairenn flags my heart for PvP! The video of me getting PWNT comes to YouTube in Summer 2080. |
| 19:09.48 | Atriace | Guillotine: might this be what you're looking for? http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitFactionGroup |
| 19:10.08 | Guillotine | nope, that just gives horde/alliance |
| 19:10.18 | Atriace | Pity |
| 19:10.21 | Guillotine | rather than ironforge/stormwing/orgrimmar/silverwing sentinels, ect. |
| 19:10.33 | Lopeppeppy | Awww.... |
| 19:10.48 | Atriace | Is there a way to specify anchors of a fontstring within the fontstring itself? |
| 19:10.49 | Guillotine | there really should be a function for this -_- obviously its available to the client if its in the tooltips |
| 19:10.58 | Lunessa | I thought that was funny business right there, but I guess the joke was funnier in my head. |
| 19:13.29 | Atriace | woohoo! I found my answer |
| 19:15.52 | Bela|work | tooltip scanning is ftl |
| 19:16.51 | ralfWORK | seems like it would be! |
| 19:17.03 | ralfWORK | !vs us elune nightface us elune fendalf |
| 19:17.06 | ThraeBot | ralfWORK: Nightface vs Fendalf! A L70 priest and a L70 hunter square off!; 14/0/47 vs 18/43/0; Nightface wins by 2 TBRs! |
| 19:17.13 | ralfWORK | ohhhh daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn |
| 19:20.50 | malreth | !vs us silver hand kyleigh us elune nightface |
| 19:20.53 | ThraeBot | malreth: Kyleigh vs Nightface! A L70 mage and a L70 priest square off!; 5/0/56 vs 14/0/47; Kyleigh wins by 201 TBRs! |
| 19:23.23 | Thunder_Child | !vs us silver hand kyleigh draenor prismatic |
| 19:23.32 | Thunder_Child | ThraeBot hates me |
| 19:23.42 | Thunder_Child | !vs us silver hand kyleigh us draenor prismatic |
| 19:23.43 | ThraeBot | Thunder_Child: Kyleigh vs Prismatic! A L70 mage and a L70 priest square off!; 5/0/56 vs 34/27/0; Kyleigh wins by 653 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 19:23.48 | Thunder_Child | ouch |
| 19:23.53 | malreth | o_O |
| 19:23.56 | malreth | somehow i doubt that |
| 19:24.33 | batrick | !vs us destromath batrick us draenor prismatic |
| 19:24.36 | ThraeBot | batrick: Batrick vs Prismatic! A L70 mage and a L70 priest square off!; 17/0/44 vs 34/27/0; Batrick wins by 95 TBRs! |
| 19:24.41 | batrick | w00t |
| 19:24.55 | malreth | ah... |
| 19:25.09 | malreth | !vs us silver hand kyleigh us destromath batrick |
| 19:25.10 | ThraeBot | malreth: kyleigh vs batrick! It's a showdown! But wait! What's this?! Something random? kyleigh's Mom calls him, interrupting the duel -- it's time for kindergarden! Forfeit! |
| 19:25.18 | malreth | lol |
| 19:25.23 | Thunder_Child | do it again |
| 19:25.29 | Thunder_Child | it should give a tbr |
| 19:25.29 | malreth | lol |
| 19:25.39 | malreth | oh.. the duel! |
| 19:25.41 | malreth | right |
| 19:25.49 | malreth | <_< >_> |
| 19:26.04 | malreth | !vs us silver hand kyleigh us destromath batrick |
| 19:26.24 | Thunder_Child | ... |
| 19:26.42 | malreth | probably have to wait a bit... flood protection |
| 19:26.48 | Thunder_Child | !vs us silver hand kyleigh us destromath batrick |
| 19:26.49 | ThraeBot | Thunder_Child: Kyleigh vs Batrick! Two 70 mages square off!; 5/0/56 vs 17/0/44; Kyleigh wins by 559 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 19:27.02 | malreth | yowch |
| 19:27.02 | batrick | uh |
| 19:27.09 | batrick | imp CS always wins vs heavy frost |
| 19:27.14 | batrick | unless ur terribad which i'm not :) |
| 19:27.28 | Thunder_Child | !vs us silver hand kyleigh us draenor trancepants |
| 19:27.31 | ThraeBot | Thunder_Child: Kyleigh vs Trancepants! A L70 mage and a L70 rogue square off!; 5/0/56 vs 19/42/0; Trancepants wins by 722 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 19:33.53 | Saint-N | !vs us echo isles rozalyn us destromath batrick |
| 19:33.54 | ThraeBot | Saint-N: Rozalyn vs Batrick! A L70 priest and a L70 mage square off!; 23/0/38 vs 17/0/44; Rozalyn wins by 407 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 19:34.50 | Saint-N | anyone watching the shuttle launch? |
| 19:34.55 | ralfWORK | naw |
| 19:34.59 | Saint-N | is that dankey kong jr in the baclkground? |
| 19:35.01 | ralfWORK | haven't watched one since challenger blew up |
| 19:35.02 | Saint-N | donkey |
| 19:35.08 | Thunder_Child | didnt look like it was going to launch for a bit |
| 19:35.12 | Lopeppeppy | Saint-N, are they doing it? I thought the weather would be too poor. |
| 19:35.14 | ralfWORK | guess you can say it scared me |
| 19:35.16 | Lopeppeppy | Sure is up here. <.< |
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| 19:35.39 | Saint-N | looks like its still a go |
| 19:36.16 | Saint-N | t-9:00 countdown clock will resume in 1 minute |
| 19:36.50 | Saint-N | and I swear that one of the screenies when they show the control room has a Donkey Kong Jr. game running |
| 19:37.13 | mikma | karazan backdoor indoor. how to open it without rogue? |
| 19:37.23 | kd3 | 9 minutes to go |
| 19:37.28 | Thunder_Child | have a key? |
| 19:37.38 | mikma | where to get the key? |
| 19:37.42 | ralfWORK | lolwut? |
| 19:37.46 | kd3 | there's no key. go do the opera event |
| 19:37.52 | Lopeppeppy | Key? You have to get to it, do the opera. That's the only way. |
| 19:37.53 | mikma | we did the opera |
| 19:37.56 | mikma | the door still wasn't open |
| 19:38.09 | Lopeppeppy | You do have to open it once from the inside, IIRC. |
| 19:38.19 | mikma | ah |
| 19:38.20 | ralfWORK | I thought you didn't have to do that anymore |
| 19:38.28 | Lopeppeppy | *shrug* |
| 19:38.30 | kd3 | nope. soon as you do opera you can run out and open it from the side entrance |
| 19:38.33 | ralfWORK | I don't know |
| 19:38.37 | ralfWORK | we always open from inside |
| 19:38.39 | Lopeppeppy | mikma are bugged |
| 19:38.40 | ralfWORK | and it always work |
| 19:39.10 | mikma | kd3: we just killed the crone and the indoor was still locked. good thing we had rogue with us but left us wondering wtf |
| 19:39.24 | kd3 | page a GM? |
| 19:39.37 | malreth | they'd probably tell you to soft reset the instance |
| 19:39.45 | ralfWORK | just go one-shot curator and aran, then port to aran's room :P |
| 19:40.34 | malreth | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2008/02/06 |
| 19:40.44 | malreth | lol... bitches love sanskrit |
| 19:42.08 | Lopeppeppy | I'd rather have the 360. *laugh* |
| 19:42.14 | Bela|work | the 360 is probably the first console I would honestly say I am totally fine getting most games for INSTEAD of the pc |
| 19:42.22 | Saint-N | t-4mins |
| 19:42.26 | Bela|work | I used to say, PC or bust |
| 19:43.26 | Bela|work | well, minus fps games |
| 19:43.31 | Bela|work | that I will still only play on pc |
| 19:43.45 | ralfWORK | for the face rolling? |
| 19:44.02 | Bela|work | I am jsut too atached to a mouse and keyboard for fps |
| 19:44.09 | ralfWORK | yea |
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| 19:44.17 | Bela|work | I can never get the accuracy out of a controller |
| 19:44.26 | Bela|work | now if they would just give in and make a 360 mouse... |
| 19:44.30 | ralfWORK | 1:30 |
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| 19:46.22 | ralfWORK | wooooooooooo |
| 19:46.32 | Bela|work | Burnout Paradise is an example of a game that looks phenomenal on a pc monitor |
| 19:47.24 | Atriace | Is this code supposed to be located in the XML OnLoad script? http://www.wowwiki.com/API_FontString_SetFont |
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| 19:48.09 | Bela|work | it doesn't have to be |
| 19:48.28 | Atriace | Good, because it isn't working there. hehe |
| 19:48.50 | Atriace | I wanted to define these attributes in the fontstring itself, but I don't see that it's meant to be. |
| 19:48.55 | Bela|work | you might want OnEvent, and register for PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD |
| 19:49.24 | Bela|work | although I would think in a lua file would be better |
| 19:49.45 | Atriace | Yeah.... but..... ahhh. I wanted to do it in XML. |
| 19:49.52 | malreth | no you didn't |
| 19:49.57 | malreth | you're lying to yourself |
| 19:49.57 | Atriace | lol |
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| 19:50.06 | Saint-N | nobody "wants" to do anything in xml |
| 19:50.11 | malreth | why do you hate yourself, Atriace? |
| 19:50.15 | Atriace | "All things are better done in Lua" - Malreth |
| 19:50.27 | malreth | i never said that. I hate Lua. |
| 19:50.33 | Saint-N | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:50.39 | Atriace | I could've sworn, 4 days ago. |
| 19:50.42 | Atriace | Anyhow. |
| 19:50.45 | malreth | Back in episode two, I said that I'd kill Lua. |
| 19:50.48 | Lunessa | ~badidea malreth |
| 19:50.55 | malreth | doesn't work that way |
| 19:51.01 | malreth | ~goodidea |
| 19:51.02 | purl | this Good Idea brought to you by malreth. |
| 19:51.08 | Bela|work | so, OnLoad this:RegisterEvent("PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD") and then OnEvent if event == "PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD" then this.font:SetFont("FRIZQT__.TTF",11,"OUTLINE, MONOCHROME"); end |
| 19:51.12 | Lunessa | bah. |
| 19:51.21 | Bela|work | as an exmaple |
| 19:51.30 | Lunessa | ~purl hates Lunessa |
| 19:51.37 | Lunessa | see? |
| 19:51.40 | malreth | ~hate Lunessa |
| 19:51.41 | purl | Hey malreth, ,,|, |
| 19:51.46 | Atriace | It looks like it'd work, but it seems messy. Especially compared to HTML/CSS. |
| 19:52.11 | malreth | it only seems messy because bela wrote it all on one line. |
| 19:52.16 | Bela|work | lol |
| 19:52.16 | Lunessa | That's because XML is not just a different version of HTML. |
| 19:52.27 | Atriace | Perhaps the word I'm looking for is "ellegant" |
| 19:52.40 | malreth | ~dict elegant |
| 19:53.07 | Bela|work | its just structured |
| 19:53.13 | malreth | purl Lopepeppy is elegant |
| 19:53.13 | purl | malreth: okay |
| 19:53.15 | Bela|work | some people like something that is pre-structured |
| 19:53.33 | Atriace | So, how would you do it with Lua? |
| 19:53.40 | Bela|work | people like me though, will do it all in lua, because he can |
| 19:53.44 | Bela|work | =P |
| 19:53.53 | |pez| | XML is more or less data storage. |
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| 19:54.29 | Bela|work | load your xml file first in your toc, then your lua file (or source the lua file in your xml, whichever you prefer) |
| 19:54.48 | Bela|work | then in your lua file, just put a single line FontString:SetFont("FRIZQT__.TTF",11,"OUTLINE, MONOCHROME"); |
| 19:54.59 | Bela|work | assuming FontString is the name of your font string |
| 19:55.03 | |pez| | and then you use something else to help you display the data in the XML file properly. |
| 19:55.47 | Bela|work | I wont get into how you could do it ALL from lua, because that would likely be information overload atm |
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| 19:56.25 | Atriace | ... wow. That code was Lua intended? I thought it was for XML. (http://www.wowwiki.com/API_FontString_SetFont) |
| 19:56.43 | Bela|work | its a lua function |
| 19:56.45 | Bela|work | well, a lua method |
| 19:57.12 | Atriace | XML references Lua functions through the <Scripts> tag then? |
| 19:57.32 | Bela|work | anywhere you see an <On*> handler, it is running lua |
| 19:57.35 | Bela|work | yes |
| 19:57.39 | Atriace | This makes sense. |
| 19:57.43 | malreth | it's odd... i could swear there was a way to set font properties on a font string in xml, tho |
| 19:57.50 | Bela|work | there is |
| 19:57.54 | Bela|work | lemme find it |
| 19:57.57 | Atriace | hehe |
| 19:58.45 | Atriace | I just went through http://www.wowwiki.com/XML_elements#fontstring trying to see if it was possible to set font properties in XML. |
| 19:59.12 | Bela|work | you can |
| 19:59.16 | Bela|work | you create a FontString |
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| 19:59.42 | Bela|work | http://wdnaddons.com/2337799/FrameXML/Fonts.xml |
| 20:00.06 | Bela|work | once you create the font string, just reference it with the actual font you want to use it |
| 20:00.18 | Bela|work | err scuse me |
| 20:00.22 | Bela|work | have that backwards |
| 20:00.28 | Bela|work | you create the font, then the fontstring uses it |
| 20:00.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Fin: yeah I've got a minor typo in the readme, and because I don't want to keep bumping it on wowi, I'll update IllegalAddon for 2.4 ;) |
| 20:01.24 | Bela|work | thik of those as templates, and you inherit them in your font string |
| 20:02.09 | Atriace | Dude. That's nice. |
| 20:02.09 | Atriace | So just continue using inherit for font definition, but define the style elsewhere. |
| 20:02.09 | Bela|work | basically |
| 20:02.25 | Bela|work | SetFont creates a new instance anyway, just like if you created one by this method in xml |
| 20:02.26 | malreth | yeah... they changed how all that worked to make font replacement across the entire ui easier |
| 20:02.58 | malreth | eating king cake scares me |
| 20:03.14 | malreth | i'm afraid i'd swallow that baby |
| 20:03.33 | Atriace | I could define my own custom font through this, it would seem. |
| 20:03.38 | malreth | yes |
| 20:03.39 | Atriace | 0_o |
| 20:03.46 | Atriace | Malreth eats babies? |
| 20:03.52 | malreth | only on tuesday |
| 20:03.54 | ralfWORK | are you surprised? |
| 20:04.13 | Atriace | Maybe? |
| 20:04.25 | Lunessa | Only on Fat Tuesday, bishes. |
| 20:04.36 | malreth | ~wiki king cake |
| 20:04.55 | Saint-N | cake or death? |
| 20:04.57 | Saint-N | cake please |
| 20:05.08 | ScytheBlade1 | s/cake/pie/ |
| 20:05.22 | malreth | http://www.theonion.com/content/news/patriots_season_perfect_for_rest |
| 20:06.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh. I just realized that I have access to three guild banks through the armory |
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| 20:13.57 | Fin | ScytheBlade1: but I demanded! it was demanded! :P |
| 20:14.11 | Lunessa | Is it over now? Do you know how to pick up the pieces and go home? |
| 20:14.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Fin: ... and you're getting what you demanded... |
| 20:14.19 | Fin | demands have been made! |
| 20:14.31 | Fin | aiee, sorry, don't take me seriously :) |
| 20:14.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Fin: no problem, I never do anyways ;) |
| 20:14.45 | ScytheBlade1 | ;) |
| 20:14.50 | Fin | good good :) |
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| 20:20.08 | malreth | so... this is interesting |
| 20:20.19 | malreth | we've got a huge computer lab on this campus |
| 20:20.24 | malreth | three floors big |
| 20:20.36 | malreth | and the computers are old... out of warranty |
| 20:21.00 | malreth | so we're piecing together a refit proposal to get all the machines replaced |
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| 20:21.28 | malreth | it's a heterogeneous environment... mac and windows |
| 20:21.51 | ralfWORK | ok |
| 20:22.01 | kd3 | oh wtf |
| 20:22.03 | kd3 | 20950/21k |
| 20:22.06 | malreth | so... we have this crazy idea now... |
| 20:22.07 | kd3 | h8 u, skyguard |
| 20:22.14 | ralfWORK | kd3: oh lord! hahahah |
| 20:22.37 | malreth | the guy in charge of all the PCs wants to propose the idea of replacing everything with apple hardware |
| 20:22.40 | kamdis | poor kd3 :( |
| 20:22.56 | malreth | and have half the lab boot mac os and the other win xp |
| 20:23.13 | ralfWORK | malreth: hah interesting |
| 20:23.18 | ralfWORK | malreth: it could work too |
| 20:23.21 | ralfWORK | bootcamp ftw |
| 20:23.25 | malreth | yeah... |
| 20:23.32 | Lunessa | malreth: Not a bad idea if you only want to deal with 1 vendor. |
| 20:23.38 | ralfWORK | yea |
| 20:23.54 | ralfWORK | 1 place to deal with everything |
| 20:24.06 | Lunessa | I seriously doubt the school will go for it. |
| 20:24.29 | malreth | Lunessa: it's not the school's call. it's ours and our upper management |
| 20:24.52 | malreth | right now, the premium of the apple hardware over the dell computer is less than $100 |
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| 20:25.05 | Lunessa | if you get a huge lab full of iMacs, I'm moving to Austin. |
| 20:25.15 | malreth | and if we order like 300 computers, we could probably negotiate that down aggressively |
| 20:25.41 | Lunessa | Not really, but... that would be sweet. |
| 20:26.06 | malreth | well, if not the price of the hardware then on the warranty |
| 20:26.16 | malreth | we'd want 4 years at least |
| 20:26.27 | malreth | standard applecare is only 3 |
| 20:26.51 | kamdis | good luck with that |
| 20:26.56 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: go farm some mobs, you'll get exalted in no time flat |
| 20:28.03 | Lunessa | malreth: That'd rock. I mean, hot damn that would be a sweet lab. And you could cut down the amount of cable you lay for it. |
| 20:28.18 | malreth | quite... all in one construction |
| 20:28.37 | malreth | that's a huge benefit, actually |
| 20:28.42 | Lunessa | And large screens by default. |
| 20:29.00 | malreth | we were speccing the PCs with 20" widescreens anyways |
| 20:29.19 | Lunessa | Yeah, and it was usually a price bump. |
| 20:29.20 | |pez| | Do any of you brilliant folks know CSS decently? |
| 20:29.37 | malreth | CSS? I 'ardly knew 'er! |
| 20:29.39 | dylanm | I'm pretty well-versed. |
| 20:29.59 | dylanm | I mean I doubt I can recall all of the browser disparities, which is the real trick of it. |
| 20:30.00 | malreth | in the e-mail, the guy call it "The Nuclear Option" |
| 20:30.12 | |pez| | Ok, I usually put my menu items in a list. |
| 20:30.16 | |pez| | ul in this case. |
| 20:30.41 | ralfWORK | no doubt |
| 20:30.50 | |pez| | and when I put margin: 0px on the ul element.. only IE actually takes away the margin on the left side. |
| 20:30.51 | |pez| | http://pez.selfip.net:8090/dev/ccdevnet/c2reborn/template.php |
| 20:31.04 | Lukian | |pez|, 0 doens't have units |
| 20:31.11 | |pez| | px |
| 20:31.11 | Lukian | and you need to use padding for other browsers |
| 20:31.14 | |pez| | 0px |
| 20:31.20 | Lukian | zero does not have a unit! |
| 20:31.26 | |pez| | okok |
| 20:31.30 | dylanm | Yeah you don't really need that. Doesn't matter. |
| 20:31.47 | dylanm | I remember IE using the margin and the rest of the free world using padding. |
| 20:31.53 | |pez| | the px doesn't do anything though ;P |
| 20:31.55 | dylanm | Just set both so that you're sure. |
| 20:32.00 | Lunessa | ie does goofy shit. |
| 20:32.13 | Lukian | |pez|, it's against standards to use a unit with a zero :) |
| 20:32.22 | Lukian | (and a waste of bytes) |
| 20:32.23 | Lunessa | stupid NICS core. |
| 20:32.27 | |pez| | Lukian: Oh, ok XD thanks |
| 20:32.36 | |pez| | also, padding:0; fixed my problem. :o |
| 20:32.41 | dylanm | Precious, delicious bytes. |
| 20:32.42 | Lukian | indeed :) |
| 20:33.28 | |pez| | Now the site looks ok, with a few hacks to make it all look good in all browsers currently tested XD |
| 20:33.56 | kamdis | ~hug |pez| |
| 20:33.57 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs |pez| |
| 20:36.58 | Crysli | Wow pex, that design looks pretty good. I like how the disclaimer is placed. |
| 20:37.00 | Saint-N | pez |
| 20:37.08 | Saint-N | you should get e107 ;P |
| 20:37.10 | Crysli | s/pex/pez |
| 20:37.19 | Saint-N | and do a full cms instead of a simple blog format ;P |
| 20:37.21 | |pez| | I like the disclaimer itself ;P |
| 20:37.30 | Saint-N | yeah the disclaimer needs to stay! |
| 20:37.38 | |pez| | e107? |
| 20:38.10 | Saint-N | e107.org |
| 20:38.25 | Saint-N | its a full cms thingy complete with filemanagement, forums games etc |
| 20:38.40 | |pez| | Oh, I'm making my own CMS. :) |
| 20:38.55 | |pez| | because I'm insane like that. |
| 20:39.42 | ralfWORK | the world needs more CMSes |
| 20:39.45 | |pez| | it'd look good on a CV later on if I managed to make something nice and shiney. |
| 20:40.06 | |pez| | ralfWORK: not really, but I need to be more competent with my php and such. |
| 20:41.37 | ralfWORK | mmhm |
| 20:41.41 | ralfWORK | that's what they all say :) |
| 20:42.26 | |pez| | I really have no other skills that mediocre php / MySQL and general webdesign. :P |
| 20:43.19 | |pez| | I also need to add the main menu to my layout... the menu under the pretty screenshot is a section menu. >__> |
| 20:43.44 | |pez| | anyway, boyfriend needs me to pick him up from work. Soeh.. I shall be leaving for a bit. |
| 20:43.56 | ralfWORK | later skater |
| 20:44.08 | Saint-N | make me a logo/banner when you get back for mah site ;P |
| 20:44.23 | |pez| | Saint-N: msg me about it, and we can discuss it XD |
| 20:44.33 | Saint-N | yay |
| 20:44.44 | ralfWORK | I suck at that stuff :P |
| 20:44.53 | Saint-N | me too |
| 20:45.02 | ralfWORK | lolgraphicarts |
| 20:45.11 | ralfWORK | terribad! |
| 20:45.12 | Saint-N | I'm lucky there's a decent theme for the site |
| 20:45.13 | Saint-N | heh |
| 20:46.29 | malreth | hahah |
| 20:46.35 | malreth | i just had a wicked idea |
| 20:46.50 | ralfWORK | NSFW? |
| 20:46.53 | malreth | i should propose that we purchase a site license for Parallels or VMWare or something |
| 20:47.00 | ralfWORK | oh |
| 20:47.04 | ralfWORK | yea, I was thinking that too |
| 20:47.05 | malreth | and just make the entire lab a Mac OS X Lab |
| 20:47.09 | ralfWORK | but that'll jack up your prices more |
| 20:48.45 | malreth | nah.... actually i already had a volume license for parallels factored into the previous proposal |
| 20:49.28 | ralfWORK | oh well then no brainer |
| 20:49.44 | malreth | when you're already ordering over 80 licenses, what's an extra 200 really? |
| 20:50.12 | malreth | we already have a no games policy in the lab |
| 20:50.44 | malreth | heavy graphic hitting software like photoshop already runs natively |
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| 20:51.29 | malreth | some stat software packages would have to run in virtualization... no big loss there |
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| 20:52.06 | ralfWORK | so like... these tornados and stuff |
| 20:52.17 | malreth | i fear tornadoes |
| 20:52.21 | ralfWORK | my house totally wouldn't stand up to it lol |
| 20:53.04 | malreth | no. tornadoes would fuck that shit up. |
| 20:53.08 | malreth | that's what tornadoes do |
| 20:53.17 | ralfWORK | what I mean is |
| 20:53.34 | malreth | they're not tornaDON'Ts |
| 20:53.44 | ralfWORK | if a tornado even looked at my house |
| 20:53.48 | ralfWORK | it would probabyl fall down :( |
| 20:53.54 | malreth | they know no limitations |
| 20:54.02 | malreth | nothing is impossible for a tornado |
| 20:54.07 | ralfWORK | cause my house is weak |
| 20:54.11 | ralfWORK | and old |
| 20:54.12 | ralfWORK | and stuffs |
| 20:54.15 | malreth | if a tornado wants to fly to the sun, they fucking would... TWICE |
| 20:54.35 | ralfWORK | well thank god we have chuck norris to protect us then |
| 20:54.40 | malreth | then they'd drive a 2x4 through a chicken just to prove a point |
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| 20:56.16 | Lunessa | malreth: And then, they taunt you, "What now bitch? WHAT NOW?" |
| 20:57.52 | testleK | Alright |
| 20:59.10 | malreth | i want my new lens to arrive |
| 20:59.21 | malreth | i should have just bought it from a local camera shop |
| 20:59.32 | testleK | errr.... Alright, I'm stumped, I have a table where all of my keys ended up as [" key"] = x and it should be ["key"] = x, any idea how I can eliminate any spaces in a string (its just a number so all spaces anywhere can be removed...)? |
| 21:00.00 | malreth | the answer is probably string.gsub or something |
| 21:00.29 | malreth | hmm... |
| 21:00.48 | malreth | >>> print(tonumber(" 4")) |
| 21:00.55 | Shirik|zZz | bing gong |
| 21:00.58 | malreth | lua> print(tonumber(" 4")) |
| 21:00.59 | lua_bot | malreth: 4 |
| 21:01.05 | malreth | that's what i thought |
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| 21:01.27 | Shirik | print(tonumber("4", "2")) |
| 21:01.31 | Shirik | lua> print(tonumber("4", "2")) |
| 21:01.31 | lua_bot | Shirik: nil |
| 21:01.36 | Shirik | oO; |
| 21:01.42 | Shirik | lua> print(tonumber("4", 2)) |
| 21:01.42 | lua_bot | Shirik: nil |
| 21:01.48 | Shirik | oh |
| 21:01.49 | Shirik | right |
| 21:01.51 | Shirik | I'm a fool |
| 21:02.19 | malreth | :) |
| 21:02.49 | testleK | hrm |
| 21:03.16 | malreth | lua> print(tonumber("100", 2)) |
| 21:03.17 | lua_bot | malreth: 4 |
| 21:03.47 | Shirik | I was going backwards |
| 21:03.51 | Shirik | and for some reason expecting it to work |
| 21:03.52 | malreth | anyways... tonumber() strips leading (and probably trailing as well) spaces |
| 21:04.09 | malreth | and now there's no need to store a number as a string... you can store a number as a number |
| 21:04.11 | Shirik | lol, 7 people signed up for gruul tonight |
| 21:04.11 | Shirik | thta should be fun |
| 21:04.24 | Shirik | Actually there are valid reasons to store a number as a string |
| 21:04.29 | Shirik | interestingly enoiugh |
| 21:04.29 | malreth | NEVAR |
| 21:04.34 | Shirik | let us take this scenario |
| 21:04.44 | Shirik | may not work exactly as I want it to, but let's see |
| 21:04.46 | testleK | Awesome ty on the way to look for stripping that out |
| 21:05.24 | Shirik | lua> t={}; local gc = collectgarbage"count"; for x = 1,1e5 do table.insert(t, 1); end print(collectgarbage"count"-gc) |
| 21:05.24 | lua_bot | Shirik: 1536 |
| 21:05.28 | Shirik | Solely numbers |
| 21:05.34 | Shirik | lua> t={}; local gc = collectgarbage"count"; for x = 1,1e5 do table.insert(t, "1"); end print(collectgarbage"count"-gc) |
| 21:05.34 | lua_bot | Shirik: 1536 |
| 21:05.37 | Shirik | grrr |
| 21:05.37 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 21:05.46 | Shirik | I'll make this work, I just need to play with it a big |
| 21:05.47 | Shirik | bit |
| 21:06.00 | Shirik | But using strings CAN (but most likely won't) save memory |
| 21:06.16 | malreth | play with it, Shirik. I'll watch... I like to watch... o_o |
| 21:06.16 | malreth | you |
| 21:06.20 | malreth | program |
| 21:06.27 | Shirik | ~kill malreth |
| 21:06.28 | purl | ACTION shoots a ionized pseudograviton gun at malreth |
| 21:06.29 | ralfWORK | rofl |
| 21:07.42 | malreth | talk physics to me |
| 21:07.42 | malreth | YESSSSSSS.... |
| 21:07.42 | malreth | i love ionized |
| 21:07.42 | malreth | it seems trivial |
| 21:07.51 | malreth | but now, the next time the topic of physics comes up, Shirik will inevitably think of me... of this conversation |
| 21:08.02 | malreth | he won't know when... it'll be when it's far away from this IRC terminal |
| 21:08.09 | malreth | but i'm there... in his brain |
| 21:08.42 | Shirik | --> s = ""; for x = 1,1e4 do s = s .."local a "..x.."=1; "; end local gc = collectgarbage"count"; loadstring(s)(); print(collectgarbage"count"-gc) |
| 21:08.45 | batbot | Shirik: @ [string " s = ""; for x = 1,1e4 do s = s .."local a ..."]:1: attempt to call a nil value |
| 21:08.49 | Shirik | ..... |
| 21:08.53 | Saint-N | hrm |
| 21:08.59 | Shirik | --> s = ""; for x = 1,1e4 do s = s .."local a "..x.."=1; "; end local gc = collectgarbage"count"; assert(loadstring(s))(); print(collectgarbage"count"-gc) |
| 21:09.01 | batbot | Shirik: @ [string " s = ""; for x = 1,1e4 do s = s .."local a ..."]:1: [string "local a 1=1; local a 2=1; local a 3=1; local a 4=1; local a 5=1..."]:1: unexpected symbol near '1' |
| 21:09.03 | Saint-N | almost done filming the last comic standing Gotham trials |
| 21:09.06 | Shirik | die |
| 21:09.07 | Shirik | die die die |
| 21:09.15 | malreth | this is my revenge, Shirik... My revenge for you kicking me from the channel nearly a month ago. I will make you hate me more than you can imagine. MUAH HA HA HA!!! |
| 21:09.22 | Shirik | --> s = ""; for x = 1,1e4 do s = s .."local a"..x.."=1; "; end local gc = collectgarbage"count"; assert(loadstring(s))(); print(collectgarbage"count"-gc) |
| 21:09.25 | batbot | Shirik: @ [string " s = ""; for x = 1,1e4 do s = s .."local a"..."]:1: [string "local a1=1; local a2=1; local a3=1; local a4=1; local a5=1; loc..."]:1: main function has more than 200 local variables |
| 21:09.28 | Shirik | *$#(%#@% |
| 21:09.31 | Shirik | I give up |
| 21:09.45 | Shirik | yeah but I can always kick you again Maldivia |
| 21:09.47 | malreth | your disappointment is like candy |
| 21:09.48 | Shirik | malreth! |
| 21:09.59 | ralfWORK | omg |
| 21:15.51 | testleK | Thanks again guys I have my table cleaned properly for using lol thank you again!!! :) |
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| 21:21.11 | Cairenn | ~lart widgertick |
| 21:21.11 | purl | --purges widgertick |
| 21:21.26 | *** join/#wowi-lounge widgertick (i=c64a263b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-92a30d6538c5d6fe) |
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| 21:21.46 | widgertick | ~whalestab Cairenn |
| 21:21.47 | purl | ACTION stabs Cairenn with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery |
| 21:22.02 | Cairenn | ~whaleblock widgertick |
| 21:22.02 | purl | ACTION shields widgertick with a freakishly huger whale named ollywag |
| 21:22.15 | widgertick | Thank you for protecting me with ollywag. |
| 21:22.17 | widgertick | Sorry about stabbing you. |
| 21:22.26 | Cairenn | rofl, been too long since I've used the whales |
| 21:22.32 | Cairenn | ~whaleparry widgertick |
| 21:22.33 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry widgertick's attacks. |
| 21:22.47 | Saint-N | that's not necessarily a bad thing ;P |
| 21:23.20 | Saint-N | cair5enn did you ever see that screenie of wowi I was talking aboot? |
| 21:23.25 | Guillotine | Anybody know if theres any sort of port of the wowwiki API documentation to an offline source so that I can easily work on AddOns while on a plain? |
| 21:23.30 | Saint-N | I honestly don't remember now |
| 21:23.46 | Cairenn | Saint-N: ummmm, don't think so? |
| 21:23.55 | Cairenn | Guillotine: wdn :p |
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| 21:23.59 | widgertick | Oh my. |
| 21:24.02 | Esamynn|Work | ~lart widgertic |
| 21:24.02 | purl | puts on some milking gloves. "All right, now, widgertic, this won't hurt a bit...." |
| 21:24.03 | Cairenn | hahahhahaha |
| 21:24.06 | Josh_Borke | WoW programming book http://tinyurl.com/2gdel9 |
| 21:24.11 | widgertic | LOL |
| 21:24.18 | Guillotine | Cairenn: that has the source code, but not the actual documentation :( |
| 21:24.22 | Esamynn|Work | ~botsnack |
| 21:24.22 | purl | thanks, Esamynn|Work |
| 21:24.23 | Josh_Borke | well that was a coicidental timing |
| 21:24.26 | Guillotine | so you just have to find a place the function is used |
| 21:24.35 | Cairenn | hahahahhahaha |
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| 21:24.48 | Josh_Borke | gd tab complete |
| 21:24.51 | Esamynn|Work | ROFL |
| 21:24.55 | Josh_Borke | Guillotine: i know of a source: it's not available yet |
| 21:25.05 | Cairenn | Saint-N: what are you talking about? |
| 21:25.06 | Josh_Borke | the wow programming book |
| 21:25.10 | Saint-N | James, II Whitehead heh |
| 21:25.13 | Josh_Borke | Cairenn: wtb link to wow programming book |
| 21:25.16 | Guillotine | lol |
| 21:25.23 | Josh_Borke | in topic that is |
| 21:25.26 | Saint-N | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/wowi.jpg |
| 21:25.41 | Saint-N | ^^ thank |
| 21:25.59 | Cairenn | Saint-N: ewww, I so hate zwinky |
| 21:26.00 | Josh_Borke | o.O what is going on here |
| 21:26.10 | Josh_Borke | i think i missed a change of names when i crashed |
| 21:26.12 | Josh_Borke | gd pidgin |
| 21:26.14 | Saint-N | it would be so much prettier without ugly badly placed ads ;) |
| 21:26.25 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.3.x ToC: 20300 | WoW programming book http://tinyurl.com/2gdel9 |
| 21:26.28 | Saint-N | it seems I only ever get zwinky ads |
| 21:26.29 | Esamynn|Work | ~lart Widgertick |
| 21:26.29 | purl | plops Widgertick into a giant vat of herring |
| 21:26.31 | Josh_Borke | <3 Cairenn |
| 21:26.38 | Guillotine | that zwinky thing scares me :( |
| 21:26.39 | Saint-N | and that heart thing in the middle of banner blinks and moves |
| 21:26.40 | Josh_Borke | wtb more details on 2.4 configuration changes |
| 21:26.47 | Josh_Borke | maybe i should put that on the forums... |
| 21:26.57 | Saint-N | Guillotine: you could to a wget ;P |
| 21:27.07 | Saint-N | I bet that would work phenom on a wiki ;) |
| 21:27.51 | Cairenn | Saint-N: unfortunately, zwinky falls into the category of "acceptable" as far as AM is concerned =/ |
| 21:29.00 | Guillotine | its acceptable, just freaky. Every time I see it on any site I cringe |
| 21:29.04 | Saint-N | Guillotine: http://www.wowwiki.com/UI_FAQ/AddOn_Author_Resources |
| 21:29.13 | Saint-N | surely something on there has what you need ;P |
| 21:29.13 | Guillotine | Why does it look at me like that :( |
| 21:29.28 | Lunessa | Ok, I'm sorry. I apologize. I'm sorry my team ever let the instant message cat out of the goddamned bag. Zwinky is the natural and inevitable descent from our once noble and lofty goals. |
| 21:29.44 | Saint-N | Cairenn: yeah I sorta figured, but doesn't it look "wierd" (the site layout I mean) having the abnners like that? |
| 21:30.08 | Saint-N | banners even |
| 21:30.16 | Guillotine | the Visual AddOn studio has it, but .net 3.5 doesn't want to download on my computer :( |
| 21:30.47 | Saint-N | get the network install ;P |
| 21:31.24 | cog|work | *nix geex: how do i do a recursive chmod that only affects directories? |
| 21:31.27 | Guillotine | huh? |
| 21:31.38 | Guillotine | network install? |
| 21:31.43 | Josh_Borke | find . -type D -exec chmod <stuff> {} \; |
| 21:31.47 | Josh_Borke | type may be wrong |
| 21:31.48 | ralfWORK | find . -type d | xargs chmod |
| 21:32.06 | Josh_Borke | find . -type d -exec chmod <stuff> {} \; |
| 21:32.09 | Saint-N | okay wwbench rules |
| 21:32.20 | Josh_Borke | Saint-N: except it doesn't work for current wowlua |
| 21:32.36 | Saint-N | Guillotine: yeah you can go to the ms page /.net orwhatever |
| 21:32.41 | ralfWORK | Josh_Borke: yea yea yours is smoother |
| 21:32.44 | cog|work | Josh_Borke: ty |
| 21:32.45 | Saint-N | and instead of getting it via windersupdate or the webinstall |
| 21:32.53 | ralfWORK | I always forget if I have to escape the {} and crap |
| 21:33.11 | Josh_Borke | i haven't been sure about it the past 4 years |
| 21:33.16 | Saint-N | you ncan leech a version called the "network install" which isthe entire install package for use in deployment without only haveing to download it once instead of multiple times |
| 21:33.21 | Josh_Borke | but now i know how to use it after using it for quite a bit of stuff |
| 21:33.27 | Josh_Borke | oops, almost wrote bitch innstead of bit |
| 21:33.38 | Saint-N | Josh_Borke: yeah that's too bad, that's the best idea I've seen though |
| 21:35.13 | Saint-N | http://movabletripe.com/archive/recursively-chmod-directories-only/ |
| 21:35.18 | ralfWORK | HAHAHAHAHAAHA |
| 21:35.20 | Saint-N | essentially what josh said ;P |
| 21:35.43 | Saint-N | without the being wrong parts ;_) |
| 21:36.02 | ralfWORK | I remember when sites like this were actually useful |
| 21:38.49 | Josh_Borke | huh? |
| 21:38.52 | Josh_Borke | i was right.. |
| 21:39.00 | ralfWORK | except the CAPITAL D |
| 21:39.02 | ralfWORK | FAIL |
| 21:39.12 | Josh_Borke | (04:31:47 PM) Josh_Borke: type may be wrong (04:32:06 PM) Josh_Borke: find . -type d -exec chmod <stuff> {} \; |
| 21:39.22 | Josh_Borke | (04:31:42 PM) Josh_Borke: find . -type D -exec chmod <stuff> {} \; |
| 21:39.32 | Josh_Borke | you interrupted my monologue so i couldn't copy paste it all =P |
| 21:46.48 | Josh_Borke | anyone use perl? |
| 21:49.07 | Shirik | oh shit |
| 21:49.21 | Shirik | Thunder_Child he didn't eliminate Lenz's law, he used it to his favor... |
| 21:49.34 | Lunessa | PERL the scriprint language or perl the WoW AddOn? |
| 21:50.44 | Shirik | he has two components to it which (in theory) completely cancel each other out... |
| 21:51.21 | Josh_Borke | perl the scripting language |
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| 21:58.48 | kamdis | rofl http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/4774/karabingodb2.gif |
| 21:59.39 | Josh_Borke | Widgertick: so, to what honor do we owe this pleasure? btw, congrats on new child, how old is he/she? |
| 21:59.54 | Lunessa | josh I have some experience in perl |
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| 22:00.01 | Cairenn | Widgertick didn't have a new kiddo, slouken did |
| 22:00.03 | Josh_Borke | Lunessa: pastamancer answered my question |
| 22:00.05 | Josh_Borke | wait a tick |
| 22:00.19 | Josh_Borke | but before i got dc'd it said slouken! |
| 22:00.24 | Cairenn | confused much? |
| 22:00.36 | Cairenn | lol, no, they were goofing around with nicks |
| 22:00.42 | Josh_Borke | GD IT! |
| 22:00.54 | Cairenn | Widgertick != slouken |
| 22:00.59 | Josh_Borke | i hate my life |
| 22:01.01 | Josh_Borke | sometimes |
| 22:01.05 | Josh_Borke | so was slouken ever here? |
| 22:01.13 | Josh_Borke | as in today |
| 22:01.15 | Cairenn | briefly |
| 22:01.27 | Josh_Borke | was it around the time i asked you to put the wow book in the topic? |
| 22:01.45 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 22:01.52 | Josh_Borke | thank god |
| 22:02.18 | Cairenn | no, you haven't completely lost your mind (any more than you already had, that is) |
| 22:02.40 | Josh_Borke | today has been a bad day |
| 22:03.02 | Cairenn | :( |
| 22:04.33 | cog|work | I love how wowprogramming is #15k in amazon sales rank and it's not even published yet... |
| 22:04.39 | sag_ich_nicht | found a bug concerning WoW under windows in OpenGL mode, it's not properly setting to fullscreen, causing always on top applications to still show, someone care to post it in the bugreport forums for me please? :O |
| 22:04.45 | cog|work | #6 in game programming |
| 22:08.17 | WobWork | cog|work: Well if you think about it, addon programming is one of the most accessible forms of game progamming around in terms of ease to get into |
| 22:08.28 | WobWork | and learning curve |
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| 22:09.15 | cog|work | WobWork: it would be a lot easier if there were an actual beginning programming book that used lua (which wowprogramming necessarily couldn't be) |
| 22:09.26 | cog|work | but yeah... accessible and popular :) |
| 22:09.33 | WobWork | s'true |
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| 22:09.40 | cog|work | \o/ clad |
| 22:10.04 | WobWork | btw, if you didn't ever get that response about cron: "No, it won't wait for the previous job to finish, it'll start a new version" |
| 22:10.18 | Esamynn|Work | yah :/ |
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| 22:10.34 | cladhaire | ? |
| 22:10.44 | WobWork | response to cog's question yesterday |
| 22:10.48 | WobWork | before he timed out |
| 22:11.33 | WobWork | bah. I can't remember what font I downloaded before as a programming font |
| 22:11.57 | WobWork | ah, Bitstream Vera |
| 22:13.14 | WobWork | although proggy is nice |
| 22:14.01 | cog|work | proggy is bitmap isn't it? |
| 22:14.07 | cog|work | = barf imo |
| 22:16.00 | WobWork | *downloads* |
| 22:16.02 | WobWork | yeah appears so |
| 22:16.04 | MySpoons2Big | msg purl |
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| 22:16.12 | MySpoons2Big | my bad |
| 22:17.03 | WobWork | problem with bitmap fonts? Resizing issues? |
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| 22:19.45 | Legorol | can someone please tell me how much mana the highest rank man spring totem regenerates? |
| 22:20.54 | WobWork | 20per 2 |
| 22:21.14 | Legorol | any way to increase it? talents etc.? |
| 22:21.28 | WobWork | yes |
| 22:21.48 | WobWork | Restore totems 5/5 and T4 set bonus, 29/2 |
| 22:22.06 | Legorol | what's the T4 bonus? |
| 22:22.13 | WobWork | (Ps I'm not actually smart, just wowheady) |
| 22:22.46 | WobWork | 2 piece set |
| 22:22.52 | Legorol | yeah but what's it do |
| 22:22.52 | Atriace | Legorol: that'd be something to checkout on WoWHead.com |
| 22:22.53 | WobWork | mana spring an extra 3 mana |
| 22:23.13 | Guillotine | Saint-N: Thanks for the tip to use network distribution of 3.5 .net, but it crashed at the exact same place :( |
| 22:23.15 | Legorol | hm, how does that end in 29? |
| 22:23.22 | Legorol | 20*1.25+3 |
| 22:24.17 | WobWork | hm, maybe 28 then |
| 22:24.27 | WobWork | as I said, I'm reading off wowhead =P |
| 22:24.32 | Legorol | or it could be 23*1.25=28.75 |
| 22:24.54 | Legorol | did you see the 29 mentioned on wowhead? |
| 22:25.00 | Legorol | i looked for it and couldn't find it |
| 22:25.42 | WobWork | yeah |
| 22:25.52 | WobWork | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=25570#comments |
| 22:26.47 | Legorol | aha, ok thanks |
| 22:27.11 | WobWork | whatever it is, it's damn shiny =) |
| 22:27.27 | WobWork | although so is mana tide |
| 22:28.15 | kamdis | So is Symbol of Hope :) |
| 22:28.30 | kamdis | Especially when you hit it at the same time as a Mana Tide :) |
| 22:28.44 | WobWork | hehe |
| 22:28.50 | WobWork | + INRVATE |
| 22:29.03 | WobWork | <3 SoH |
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| 22:29.26 | WobWork | oh and water shield |
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| 22:30.01 | WobWork | Man, shammies are the new shadow priests =P |
| 22:30.05 | cog|work | ..... O.o |
| 22:30.11 | Tem|AFK | WobWork, it's NINARV8 |
| 22:30.23 | cog|work | so.... emacs doesn't know how to highlight php by default? |
| 22:30.31 | WobWork | fershame |
| 22:30.32 | Legorol | ok thanks for the help with the mana spring |
| 22:30.33 | WobWork | use vim =) |
| 22:30.39 | Tem|AFK | cog|work, you have to have a-- oh, emacs |
| 22:30.41 | Tem|AFK | yeah, use vim |
| 22:30.44 | WobWork | Tem|AFK: IS CAT FITING? |
| 22:30.47 | Legorol | i'm worried that the resto shaman in the raid was being an ass :/ |
| 22:30.54 | Tem|AFK | WobWork, CAT DURIS IS 4 FITE |
| 22:30.55 | WobWork | Legorol: It's quite possible! |
| 22:31.03 | kamdis | NRV8! |
| 22:31.06 | Legorol | i asked her to use fire resistance instead of mana spring, and she complained that she will then oom |
| 22:31.18 | Legorol | and i'm worried that she went to deliberately prove a point, so i wanted to check on how much she is losing out on |
| 22:31.34 | cog|work | bleh vim |
| 22:31.37 | WobWork | in general, if you're depending on mana spring for mana, you're not doing it right =P |
| 22:31.38 | cog|work | it's not doing it either, though |
| 22:31.39 | Legorol | with a 12k pool, 2 minutes into the fight she was down to 25% mana or less, and she blamed it on lack of totem |
| 22:31.52 | Legorol | no she doesn't as such, but i fear she deliberately wanted to prove a point and wasted her mana |
| 22:32.04 | Legorol | she is not oom after 2 mins usually |
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| 22:32.08 | WobWork | easy enough for a shammy I'd say |
| 22:32.19 | Legorol | but in 2 minutes, the totem would only heal 1740 |
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| 22:32.41 | Legorol | that's 15% of her pool in 2 minutes, no way it would account for her going oom |
| 22:32.54 | malreth | what's the name of the log file that wow creates when there's xml errors? |
| 22:33.02 | Legorol | FrameXML.log |
| 22:33.03 | kd3 | WoW/Logs/FrameXML.log |
| 22:33.28 | malreth | thanks |
| 22:33.39 | malreth | gotta run! |
| 22:33.49 | WobWork | hm |
| 22:33.50 | WobWork | Echo (Eliza Dushku) [is] a young woman who is literally everybody's fantasy. She is one of a group of men and women who can be imprinted with personality packages, including memories, skills, language—even muscle memory—for different assignments. The assignments can be romantic, adventurous, outlandish, uplifting, sexual and/or very illegal. When not imprinted with a personality package, Echo and the others are basically mind-w |
| 22:33.58 | WobWork | that... probably got cut off =P |
| 22:34.03 | WobWork | but new Joss Whedon show =P |
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| 22:35.26 | kamdis | Sounds kind of like that movie The Island. Sort of. |
| 22:35.41 | WobWork | yeah |
| 22:35.48 | WobWork | except they're not being harvested for body parts |
| 22:35.58 | WobWork | aw man |
| 22:36.02 | WobWork | what a mess =\ |
| 22:36.08 | kamdis | Just to commit crimes or sex acts :P |
| 22:36.24 | WobWork | That's morally better! |
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| 22:36.45 | kamdis | That's debatable. |
| 22:36.57 | WobWork | I was being facetious =P |
| 22:37.23 | kamdis | oh |
| 22:37.35 | WobWork | clearly I need more =P smilies =P |
| 22:38.20 | kamdis | or more exclamation points!!!!!! |
| 22:38.32 | WobWork | omg 6 =\ |
| 22:38.38 | kamdis | now i hate myself |
| 22:38.42 | WobWork | 5 is clearly the sign of a deranged mind |
| 22:39.33 | kamdis | you won't get an argument from me on that ;) |
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| 22:44.09 | kd3 | huh... 2 different cableco trucks are out in the parking lot screwing with green boxen. |
| 22:44.41 | WobWork | Maybe they're transformers |
| 22:44.50 | kamdis | they share those |
| 22:45.19 | kamdis | assuming you have multiple options for cable/internet |
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| 22:45.48 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:46.01 | kd3 | options are there, thankfully |
| 22:46.20 | kd3 | just don't want to switch to the apartment's uplink if I can help it. I'd have to resort to tor to get back on IRC |
| 22:46.30 | kamdis | hahaha |
| 22:46.40 | kamdis | who do you have for cable? |
| 22:46.58 | Lunessa | kd3: holy smokees man... got enough ports? |
| 22:47.21 | kd3 | 3 bedrooms, 2 living rooms, 2 ports in each room |
| 22:47.45 | kd3 | kamdis; northland |
| 22:47.47 | Lunessa | And wireless |
| 22:47.53 | kd3 | for my wii |
| 22:48.02 | WobWork | well no |
| 22:48.02 | kd3 | and the roommates' wiis |
| 22:48.07 | WobWork | I meant Transformers |
| 22:48.11 | WobWork | like autobots |
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| 22:49.20 | Lunessa | Robots in disguise! |
| 22:49.40 | Lunessa | It's a truck! It's a robot! It's a truck! It's a robot! WTF is it? |
| 22:50.58 | WobWork | a ruck |
| 22:51.01 | WobWork | or a trobot |
| 22:51.32 | Legorol | rofl |
| 22:51.54 | WobWork | bah |
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| 22:51.59 | WobWork | I should ignore guildbanks |
| 22:52.06 | WobWork | Too much effort = |
| 22:52.07 | WobWork | \ |
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| 23:02.58 | art3mis | http://www.eyeos.org/ <-- that's kind of neat |
| 23:04.16 | Cide | until you want to open that 3gb file, I'm guessing |
| 23:10.01 | WobWork | So. |
| 23:10.03 | WobWork | Table pools |
| 23:10.07 | WobWork | yey or nay? |
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| 23:16.45 | sag_ich_nicht | ~asktoask |
| 23:16.46 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 23:16.58 | Cide | WobWork: depends. |
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| 23:17.19 | Cide | if you create and free up lots of tables, it's generally a good idea |
| 23:17.25 | Cide | if you don't, it's not really worth it |
| 23:17.26 | WobWork | yeah |
| 23:17.43 | sag_ich_nicht | (i wasn't pointing that asktoask at someone, had to quote it to guildchat :P) |
| 23:17.58 | WobWork | When I sort an inventory, say, for a size of 60 items, I create 60 tables and dump them |
| 23:18.06 | WobWork | and that iteration happens about 6 times |
| 23:18.12 | WobWork | in a short period |
| 23:18.36 | Cide | WobWork: do you have to create 60 tables? |
| 23:18.40 | [Liquidor] | Hehe http://armory.artoman.com/item-search.php?i= :P I'm having fun |
| 23:18.44 | Cide | what does each table store? |
| 23:19.02 | WobWork | Information specific to that item |
| 23:19.17 | Cide | how many entries per table? |
| 23:19.33 | Beladona | please tell me you are caching that data [Liquidor] |
| 23:19.46 | [Liquidor] | ofc :) |
| 23:19.49 | WobWork | 10? |
| 23:19.59 | WobWork | maybe 15 |
| 23:20.16 | Cide | WobWork: better solution: create 10-15 or whatever tables, and give each item a unique index |
| 23:20.52 | Cide | it's an even better solution if you have very few entries per table (like <5), but it's still better than 60 or 60*6 |
| 23:21.13 | WobWork | it makes sorting a little more difficult though possibly |
| 23:21.20 | Cide | yeah, it does |
| 23:21.24 | WobWork | since I use table.sort |
| 23:21.37 | WobWork | and a series of cascading sort functions to figure out final placement |
| 23:21.56 | Cide | well, you can put all the item indices in a separate table, and then provide a custom sorting function to look up the indices values |
| 23:21.59 | Cide | in the various tables |
| 23:22.04 | Cide | but yeah, it's a messy implementation |
| 23:22.26 | Cide | if the 60*6 iteration doesn't happen that often, just go for a table pool imo |
| 23:22.41 | WobWork | Well, it'd happen every time the person wanted to sort their bags |
| 23:22.45 | Cide | (make sure you set it to use weak values) |
| 23:22.50 | WobWork | oh absolutely |
| 23:24.09 | WobWork | Maybe I should force a gc =P |
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| 23:28.29 | Lunessa | grrrr.... crashes suck |
| 23:29.15 | Duman | jeez: http://blog.audiovideointeriors.com/208great/ |
| 23:30.37 | ScytheBlade1 | That G15 thread in CS is funny. |
| 23:30.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Painful, but funny. |
| 23:31.54 | WobWork | Kipnis felt that a lone center speaker sounded a tad undernourished compared with the eight Snell THX Cinema & Music Reference towers, so he opted for three Snell LCR-2800 center-channel speakers. |
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| 23:35.27 | Lunessa | *sigh* Overheated. |
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| 23:52.29 | Lunessa | I'm going to make myself a little text snippet. "The answer you seek is in the stickies." |
| 23:52.45 | Lunessa | I wonder how long it will take for someone to report me? |
| 23:53.21 | Legorol | i'll report you whenever you ask! |
| 23:54.58 | art3mis | okay here's a question |
| 23:56.05 | art3mis | what would you call a business site that had a front page with information html pages, had a admin side that allowed easy editting/creation of said pages, and also contained an admin based billing/invoice client managment system ? |
| 23:56.18 | art3mis | like what would it be termed as in an all in one package? |
| 23:56.29 | art3mis | crm/cms? |
| 23:56.59 | art3mis | and more importantly think that sort of package exists as opensource? |
| 23:57.44 | Lunessa | Content Management Systems of that type are all over the web. |
| 23:57.51 | WobWork | hm |
| 23:57.59 | WobWork | do I want to set the keys as weak or the values |
| 23:58.11 | Lunessa | Joomla, PHPNuke, ASPNuke, ASP.Net, and tons of others. |
| 23:58.14 | WobWork | art3mis: portal |
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| 23:58.30 | WobWork | Business Portal |
| 23:58.43 | cog|work | Quick! name a simple way to write a cron job (script i assume) that will only execute one at a time even if it takes longer to complete than the interval between tasks... I've got it working, but it's an EXTREME hack (the script renames itself when it starts and finishes :| ) |
| 23:58.45 | WobWork | for the omgnetspeakbuzzword version |
| 23:59.28 | WobWork | why don't you have the script grep ps aux for it's own name and not run if found |
| 23:59.33 | WobWork | or found more than once |
| 23:59.35 | WobWork | in this case |
