| 00:00.09 | Lopeppeppy | Post 2 in http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3881820910&sid=1 |
| 00:00.29 | Fin | http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Make_a_Macro#.2Fuse_.3Cbag.3E_.3Cslot.3E |
| 00:00.36 | Fin | what an odd URL |
| 00:01.17 | ralfWORK | ScytheBlade1: works! |
| 00:01.25 | Fin | oh and look at that, a section *just* underneath it entitled "Multiple actions with one click" |
| 00:01.53 | sacarasc | ty |
| 00:01.55 | ralfWORK | ScytheBlade1: shift+1 was bound to actionbar something-or-other |
| 00:01.56 | Fin | "Macros like this do not work anymore. As soon as Overpower fails to cast, the game will block all the other spells from casting as well, even though the GCD is not actually triggered." |
| 00:02.03 | Fin | I wonder if that was anything to do with ralfWORK's issue |
| 00:02.05 | Fin | oh well |
| 00:02.13 | ScytheBlade1 | ralfWORK: told you. :) |
| 00:02.20 | ralfWORK | ScytheBlade1: indeed, tyvm |
| 00:02.26 | ScytheBlade1 | ralfWORK: that's a semi-common pitfall, so no worries |
| 00:02.30 | ralfWORK | now maybe I can beat that mage next raid ;) |
| 00:02.39 | ScytheBlade1 | It's not something that you think of all that often ;) |
| 00:02.48 | ScytheBlade1 | As a mage, I'm sorry I helped you with that macro now :( |
| 00:02.49 | ralfWORK | Fin: thank you for looking that up, I am all set now :D |
| 00:02.54 | ralfWORK | ScytheBlade1: ahahahah |
| 00:03.29 | ralfWORK | I'm actually kinda mad |
| 00:03.30 | Fin | oh, hey, I really didn't help :) and I didn't specifically look it up - I just noticed the section below the bit relevant to sacarasc's question - glad you got it sorted though |
| 00:03.36 | ralfWORK | how gear-dependant shadowpriests are |
| 00:03.39 | Fin | kerrrazy mad? |
| 00:03.39 | Fin | oh |
| 00:03.41 | ralfWORK | compared to mages |
| 00:03.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Everything is to one extent or another |
| 00:04.41 | ralfWORK | ScytheBlade1: maybe. the mage I'm fighting has about half the Spelldamage I have |
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| 00:04.41 | ralfWORK | there is no reason I shouldn't be whooping him on a regular |
| 00:04.59 | ralfWORK | now granted, he's an *excellent* mage |
| 00:05.05 | ralfWORK | but come on now |
| 00:05.07 | ScytheBlade1 | ralfWORK: I've got +905 +dmg, and I commonly out-DPS other mages I know with >1100 |
| 00:05.34 | ralfWORK | ohh wait... what's the Bot thing where I can compare stats? |
| 00:05.46 | ScytheBlade1 | I forget the syntax |
| 00:06.02 | ralfWORK | purl: us elune nightface |
| 00:06.07 | ScytheBlade1 | It's not purl |
| 00:06.12 | ScytheBlade1 | !s us elune nightface |
| 00:06.12 | ralfWORK | oh my bad |
| 00:06.15 | ScytheBlade1 | !c us elune nightface |
| 00:06.18 | ThraeBot | ScytheBlade1: Nightface, Level 70 Human Priest (14/0/47). 8241 HP; 8610 Mana; 168 mana regen; 54 mp5; 110 spell crit; 90 spell hit; 925 +spell dmg/heal; 102 shadow dmg (1027); 5.70% dodge; 34 resilience; +33 all resists;[[ TBR: 1137 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yt5p87 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/35kafm ][ Updated: Thu Jan 31 19:14:59 2008 EST ]] |
| 00:06.51 | ScytheBlade1 | !c us elune nightface us doomhammer sbo |
| 00:06.51 | ralfWORK | !c us elune nightface us elune aprucel |
| 00:06.52 | ThraeBot | ralfWORK: <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="/layout/character-sheet.xsl"?><page globalSearch="1" lang="en_gb" requestUrl="/character-sheet.xml"> <characterInfo errCode="noCharacter"/></page> |
| 00:06.53 | ThraeBot | ScytheBlade1: <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="/layout/character-sheet.xsl"?><page globalSearch="1" lang="en_gb" requestUrl="/character-sheet.xml"> <characterInfo errCode="noCharacter"/></page> |
| 00:06.59 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 00:07.03 | ralfWORK | uhm. ok. |
| 00:07.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Intersting |
| 00:07.05 | Fin | egads |
| 00:07.18 | ScytheBlade1 | !vs us elune nightface us doomhammer sbo |
| 00:07.20 | ThraeBot | ScytheBlade1: Nightface vs Sbo! A L70 priest and a L70 mage square off!; 14/0/47 vs 17/0/44; Sbo wins by 312 TBRs! |
| 00:07.31 | ScytheBlade1 | That's the right bot all right |
| 00:07.34 | ScytheBlade1 | !c us elune nightface us doomhammer sbo |
| 00:07.35 | ThraeBot | ScytheBlade1: <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="/layout/character-sheet.xsl"?><page globalSearch="1" lang="en_gb" requestUrl="/character-sheet.xml"> <characterInfo errCode="noCharacter"/></page> |
| 00:07.37 | ralfWORK | dunno what TBR is |
| 00:07.42 | ScytheBlade1 | ThraeBot: your bot is weird :( |
| 00:07.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Err |
| 00:07.48 | ralfWORK | !vs us elune nightface us elune aprucel |
| 00:07.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Thrae: your bot is weird :( |
| 00:07.52 | ThraeBot | ralfWORK: Nightface vs Aprucel! A L70 priest and a L70 mage square off!; 14/0/47 vs 11/47/3; Nightface wins by 26 TBRs! |
| 00:08.00 | MentalPower | !tbr |
| 00:08.01 | ralfWORK | see says I should have won! ;) |
| 00:08.22 | ralfWORK | the only times I can tie him is when it's a threatless fight |
| 00:08.22 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:08.28 | ScytheBlade1 | !c us doomhammer myrothin |
| 00:08.29 | ThraeBot | Sorry ScytheBlade1, you must wait 8 seconds before making another request. |
| 00:08.36 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 00:08.38 | ScytheBlade1 | !c us doomhammer myrothin |
| 00:08.40 | ralfWORK | like... Oz or Moroes or something |
| 00:08.41 | ThraeBot | ScytheBlade1: Myrothin, Level 70 Draenei Mage (40/0/21). 4413 HP; 5801 Mana; 123 mana regen; 36 mp5; 72 spell crit; 16 spell hit; 314 +spell dmg; 4.90% dodge; 10 shadow resist (+10); +8 all resists (+10 shadow);[[ TBR: 950 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ytzb4f ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/35wtbu ][ Updated: Thu Jan 31 19:17:22 2008 EST ]] |
| 00:08.57 | ScytheBlade1 | He's the one which I can eat alive in damage output... and his gear is much better than min--- wtf |
| 00:09.04 | ScytheBlade1 | +314? +72 crit? |
| 00:09.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Ignore me! |
| 00:09.20 | ralfWORK | !c us elune aprucel |
| 00:09.21 | ThraeBot | ralfWORK: Aprucel, Level 70 Human Mage (11/47/3). 6473 HP; 9251 Mana; 144 mana regen; 139 spell crit; 118 spell hit; 626 +spell dmg/heal; 122 arcane dmg (748); 181 fire dmg (807); 5.26% dodge;[[ TBR: 1163 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2f8r6h ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/37xqrc ][ Updated: Thu Jan 31 19:16:33 2008 EST ]] |
| 00:09.37 | ScytheBlade1 | He's raid fire specced |
| 00:09.38 | ralfWORK | ok, so he does have more dmg than he did a while back |
| 00:10.02 | sacarasc | good good, i got my after-res BG macro sorted |
| 00:10.08 | ralfWORK | I'm at 985 shadow damage, with my Blessing card equipped |
| 00:10.32 | ralfWORK | and no, I don't have my FSW yet :P |
| 00:10.37 | ralfWORK | that mage used to be Frost |
| 00:11.19 | ScytheBlade1 | The difference between PvE fire and PvE frost is ~5% at best, aka no difference at all given latency and skill differences (unless you've had Illidan on farm for a few months) |
| 00:11.47 | ralfWORK | well, the shocking thing is he had frost gear |
| 00:11.48 | Wobin | 181 fire damage (807) ? |
| 00:12.01 | ralfWORK | and when he switched to fire, he had like... ~500 damage |
| 00:12.03 | Wobin | oh |
| 00:12.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Wobin: base damage + 181 fire dmg = 807 fire dmg |
| 00:12.07 | Wobin | aye |
| 00:12.14 | ralfWORK | and was still beating up the charts |
| 00:12.24 | ScytheBlade1 | He just knows how to play. /shrug |
| 00:12.59 | ralfWORK | yes, yes he does |
| 00:12.59 | ralfWORK | he plays his ass off |
| 00:12.59 | ralfWORK | and, like me, has no alts |
| 00:12.59 | Fin | I spy an opportunity for someone to tell someone else to "learn to play, to be honest" |
| 00:12.59 | ralfWORK | which means he does 1 thing and does it well |
| 00:12.59 | Fin | or l2p tbh lolz |
| 00:12.59 | Fin | win? |
| 00:13.25 | ralfWORK | Fin: if I didn't lead the raids, I'd say yes, L2P shadowpresit! |
| 00:15.06 | ralfWORK | I'd love to have nothing to worry about other than rolling my face on the keyboard and screaming pew pew pew |
| 00:15.22 | sacarasc | hehe |
| 00:15.36 | Fin | I use my elbows |
| 00:15.50 | ralfWORK | I work with a 1 armed T6 rogue |
| 00:16.26 | ralfWORK | who apparently, regularly out DPSes the other rogues who out gear him |
| 00:16.57 | sacarasc | hax |
| 00:16.59 | ralfWORK | now I don't know about you guys |
| 00:17.03 | ralfWORK | but if I had 1 arm |
| 00:17.05 | ralfWORK | and was undergeared |
| 00:17.07 | ralfWORK | and won |
| 00:17.13 | ralfWORK | I'd be RAILING on folk |
| 00:17.20 | sacarasc | i play one handed most of the time |
| 00:17.55 | ralfWORK | he plays with a nub |
| 00:20.23 | Tem | Shirik, linkplz |
| 00:20.32 | ralfWORK | he does have 1 problem though |
| 00:20.40 | Tem | to the logical falacy test |
| 00:20.40 | ralfWORK | his Vanish is next to his Evasion |
| 00:20.58 | ralfWORK | so if he aggros, usually he nubs Evasion instead of Vanish :P |
| 00:21.47 | Lopeppeppy | Dungeon Keeper rocks, |pez|, you'll totally enjoy it. |
| 00:22.32 | |pez| | Oh, I know that |
| 00:22.39 | ralfWORK | sigh |
| 00:22.40 | |pez| | I've played it ages and ages ago ^^ |
| 00:22.44 | ralfWORK | only 27 more primal waters |
| 00:22.46 | sacarasc | !c eu darkmoon faire yanil |
| 00:22.46 | sacarasc | just wanna see what it says about me ;p |
| 00:22.46 | ralfWORK | :( |
| 00:22.48 | ThraeBot | sacarasc: Yanil, Level 70 Draenei Shaman (1/46/14). 7469 HP; 5568 Mana; 162 mana regen; 64 mp5; 4262 Armour; 980 AP; 177.500 Melee DPS; 22.43% melee crit; 44 melee hit; 294 +spell dmg/heal; 18.82% dodge; 4.88% block; 44 resilience;[[ TBR: 1050 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yr5lg5 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/33k6nk ][ Updated: Thu Jan 31 19:31:30 2008 EST ]] |
| 00:23.29 | sacarasc | what's a TBR? |
| 00:23.44 | ralfWORK | 86 badges |
| 00:23.46 | ralfWORK | sigh |
| 00:24.33 | haste | ~TBR |
| 00:24.33 | purl | hmm... tbr is ThraeBot Ratings -- a ThraeBot innovation. Working on a PvP-oriented weighted algorithm for what stats the Armoury currently has for your character, partially modified by build-type, it can be used to pit two characters in TBR vs TBR combat, and tries try to take into account which classes are fighting. (or "to be released") |
| 00:24.46 | ralfWORK | hahahah nice |
| 00:25.10 | sacarasc | what it doesn't take into account is that i suck |
| 00:25.44 | Lopeppeppy | Okay, the forums not updating properly is totally vexing me tonight. |
| 00:25.54 | Thunder_Child | ~calm Lopeppeppy |
| 00:25.54 | purl | ACTION sooths Lopeppeppy, offers a backrub, tea, a jacuzzi and anything else that might help calm Lopeppeppy down. |
| 00:26.19 | Lopeppeppy | Wow. Purl is now on the list of potential mates. I'd hit that. |
| 00:26.46 | Thunder_Child | purl is an it |
| 00:27.17 | Fin | she's a she |
| 00:27.28 | Lopeppeppy | purl has always been a she. |
| 00:27.37 | kergoth | purl is indeed a she |
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| 00:28.06 | Thunder_Child | it. the only reason purl is mor commenly refered to as 'she' is due the male predomination on IRC |
| 00:28.15 | Thunder_Child | s/mor/more/ |
| 00:28.20 | ralfWORK | it's like naming a ship "she" |
| 00:28.30 | Thunder_Child | bit quite |
| 00:28.37 | Thunder_Child | s/bit/not/ |
| 00:28.55 | sacarasc | less people ride on purl? |
| 00:29.07 | Thunder_Child | bah, for the good of all people kind i must stop typing! |
| 00:29.14 | Tem | ~google brainfuck |
| 00:29.29 | Tem | FU PURL |
| 00:29.37 | art3mis | Thunder_Child: I think its more because purl is fickle and does whatever she wants most of the time despite being requested to do something else |
| 00:30.02 | Thunder_Child | art3mis, thats human |
| 00:30.06 | Lopeppeppy | She offers good relaxation. That's all I want. :P |
| 00:30.25 | Thunder_Child | actually Lopeppeppy, you said 'mate' |
| 00:30.44 | art3mis | or to be more mysoginistic, "she" only does what shes been taught to do and is incapable of growing and learning ;P |
| 00:31.07 | ScytheBlade1 | ... lol |
| 00:31.15 | Thunder_Child | i think you jusr defined a guy |
| 00:31.24 | Thunder_Child | s/jusr/just/ |
| 00:31.31 | art3mis | no we call that trait in guys "stubbornness" ;P |
| 00:31.52 | art3mis | its not an inability, its a pronounced defiance ;P |
| 00:31.52 | Thunder_Child | s/stubborness/mule-headed/ |
| 00:32.05 | Lopeppeppy | Mate, best friend.... purl is hot. |
| 00:32.42 | kergoth | at least the guy that runs ibot, jbot, purl, and apt said ibot was a she. pretty sure they all must be |
| 00:32.53 | Legorol | All of this makes much more sense if you agree that there are "male" behaviour traits and "female" behaviour traits, and most guys have a large dose of the male traits where as most girls have a large dose of female traits, but that's not absolute |
| 00:32.54 | Thunder_Child | you dangrously close not not keeping with you 'meat only' policy |
| 00:33.11 | Legorol | a given human (or non-human) entity may have any combination of male and female traits |
| 00:33.16 | Lopeppeppy | Purl is pixels. *shrug* She's just leading me on anyway. |
| 00:33.21 | art3mis | Legorol: you're oly saying that cuz your GF used to be a boy and still has some of the parts ;P |
| 00:33.38 | Thunder_Child | Legorol, stop ruinging the fun |
| 00:33.39 | art3mis | heh I knew a hutner whos cat was named Pixel |
| 00:33.43 | Thunder_Child | ruining* |
| 00:34.05 | Tem | hunters that name their pets the same name as their healer piss me off |
| 00:34.26 | art3mis | I think that's new |
| 00:34.29 | Legorol | in our guild, there was a player named Trouble. her best friend named his pet Trouble |
| 00:34.36 | Legorol | it screw up wws parser client ^^ |
| 00:34.44 | art3mis | didn't used to be able to name it someone that already exists be it a player or an npc |
| 00:34.50 | Thunder_Child | Tem, thats great for arena |
| 00:34.59 | Thunder_Child | screws people over |
| 00:35.00 | Tem | that's what I'm talking about |
| 00:35.07 | Tem | "Sheeping the priest" |
| 00:35.21 | Tem | "no wait... I just sheeped the kitty" |
| 00:35.28 | art3mis | can target= be tuned to accept only players and not pets? |
| 00:35.29 | Legorol | you target people in arena by name? |
| 00:35.38 | Tem | Legorol, with arena frames, yes |
| 00:35.42 | Legorol | what kind of messed up targeting is that |
| 00:36.00 | Legorol | arena frames?? |
| 00:36.00 | Tem | usually, after the initial target, I go by my focus |
| 00:36.05 | ScytheBlade1 | It's everyone's favorite poster, Trevion! This time, on the general forums! http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4311223419 |
| 00:36.10 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:36.39 | Tem | Legorol, there are several addons out there that pick up enemy targets in arena... |
| 00:36.43 | Tem | screw it, getting alink |
| 00:37.27 | Tem | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7680-SSArenaFrames.html |
| 00:37.36 | Legorol | no worries, i can also google |
| 00:38.32 | Tem | ew |
| 00:38.56 | Duman | heh |
| 00:38.56 | Lopeppeppy | Trevion is hilarious. Ghostlands is taking population from AD. I'm totally excited that people MIGHT transfer and I won't have queues again. |
| 00:40.15 | ScytheBlade1 | And Doomhammer. |
| 00:40.35 | ScytheBlade1 | The people who think that Ghostlands will fail aren't looking at the source realm populations. |
| 00:41.01 | ScytheBlade1 | They're all MASSIVE PvE servers. To a brand new, no level ones allowed server. |
| 00:41.16 | ScytheBlade1 | HELLO CONTENT RUSHING RACE. |
| 00:41.57 | Lopeppeppy | Yup. |
| 00:42.27 | Lopeppeppy | I expect to see some of the people from broken guilds here on AD get together and transfer to make a new guild, fresh start on a new server. |
| 00:42.33 | Lopeppeppy | That would be cool and good. |
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| 00:43.05 | Xinhuan | so |
| 00:43.16 | Xinhuan | setmetatable(defaultStartIDs, {__index = defaultStartIDs}) |
| 00:43.17 | Xinhuan | doesn't work |
| 00:43.24 | Xinhuan | setmetatable(defaultStartIDs, {__index = function(t, k) return t end}) |
| 00:43.25 | Xinhuan | works |
| 00:43.50 | Xinhuan | the first one gives "loop in gettable" error |
| 00:44.54 | Xinhuan | hmm i see |
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| 00:45.14 | Xinhuan | the function doesn't look up the value of k, the former does :< |
| 00:45.31 | kergoth | what are you trying to do? |
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| 00:47.28 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: you set a table with a __index to itself? no wonder it says loop ..:P |
| 00:50.40 | Wobin | WTB Oceanic RP realm stat |
| 00:51.21 | Wobin | as much as I <3 AD, it's so utterly the wrong timezone for us |
| 00:53.38 | Xinhuan | nevcairiel, i totally expected it to lockup :D |
| 00:54.17 | Xinhuan | i just wanted a table where t.a.x will refer to a default value of t.x, so my second code works |
| 00:55.53 | nevcairiel | your first one wouldnt have worked anyway, because it'll use the table as a lookup, aka checking k,v pairs in that table, rathern then supplying the table as default ;) |
| 00:56.03 | Xinhuan | ya i realized that hehe |
| 00:56.16 | Xinhuan | the idea was i have class specific info in t.WARRIOR.x |
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| 00:56.30 | Xinhuan | and if t.MAGE doesn't exist, then accessing t.MAGE.x would default to t.x |
| 00:56.43 | Xinhuan | so my revised code will work for it |
| 00:58.32 | Xinhuan | Wobin, you're on.. argent dawn? :D |
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| 01:02.24 | Lunessa | naps are good |
| 01:03.02 | Cairenn | naps are wonderful things |
| 01:03.22 | Cairenn | I think everyone should take a mid-afternoon nap, just like we did back in kindergarden |
| 01:03.30 | Lunessa | Siesta |
| 01:03.39 | NightHawkTheSane | I support this idea. |
| 01:04.02 | Lunessa | I took the day off sick. We've been passing the same cold around the office a lot lately. So a nap felt good. |
| 01:04.02 | Cairenn | betcha the world would be a better place if we all took mid-afternoon naps, held hands and learned to share |
| 01:04.17 | Lunessa | Can I skip the holding hands and sharing bit? |
| 01:05.09 | NightHawkTheSane | can we have 30 hour work weeks too? |
| 01:05.20 | MentalPower | do we get to sing cumbaya afterwards too? |
| 01:05.21 | Lunessa | My cookies are MINE I tell you! MINE |
| 01:05.45 | MentalPower | s/cumbaya/Kumbaya/ |
| 01:08.18 | art3mis | wow |
| 01:08.29 | art3mis | 4 guys that run the pirate bay got indicted |
| 01:08.38 | Cairenn | ? |
| 01:08.45 | art3mis | and on a side note rapidshare was found liable for everything on it |
| 01:09.29 | Lunessa | And thus ends common carrier protrctions... |
| 01:09.36 | Lunessa | protections |
| 01:09.40 | buu | Hrm. |
| 01:09.59 | buu | I wonder there's a decent enemy cast bar thingy. |
| 01:10.03 | buu | I want one that acts like bigwigs =[ |
| 01:11.22 | art3mis | I honestly don't think they'll lose |
| 01:11.33 | art3mis | accessory is a stretch by most laws |
| 01:11.52 | art3mis | but to know that TPB makes 4million from advertising alone is rather impressive |
| 01:11.59 | art3mis | 4million/yr |
| 01:12.03 | buu | Yeah |
| 01:12.08 | buu | Damn good business. |
| 01:12.17 | Lunessa | Not really |
| 01:12.19 | buu | Heh, no wonder they were so confident about legal threats. |
| 01:13.22 | Lunessa | 4 mill is nothing |
| 01:13.50 | Lunessa | Especially if you're in court a lot. |
| 01:13.59 | art3mis | for a stupid website that users do everything for is pretty awesome |
| 01:14.38 | buu | Yeah, for a couple of boxes in a rack and a few forums + upload buttons |
| 01:15.10 | Lunessa | small potatoes. |
| 01:15.23 | Lunessa | Ala dan quayle |
| 01:17.16 | art3mis | According to Roswall, The Pirate Bay nets close to $4 million annually from advertising on its site, which currently tracks 1 million BitTorrent files, has 2.5 million registered users and has had more than 10 million users downloading files simultaneously. |
| 01:17.46 | art3mis | the best quote is this |
| 01:17.49 | art3mis | Magnus Eriksson, a spokesman for Piratbyrån, a group that lobbies in support of file sharing, predicted that The Pirate Bay will endure the trial, even if a guilty verdict is returned. |
| 01:17.51 | art3mis | "The Pirate Bay is not going to be down for a single minute," he told The Local. "The Pirate Bay is now established in a number of countries, so there's no one place in which to push the ‘off' button." |
| 01:22.15 | Wobin | I support this 'nap in the arvo' concept |
| 01:22.23 | Wobin | Where can I sign up to your newsletter? |
| 01:24.10 | Wobin | <buu>: I want one that acts like bigwigs =[ |
| 01:24.21 | Wobin | "Warlock PHASE 2 APPROACHING!" |
| 01:24.28 | Wobin | *ding* |
| 01:30.16 | art3mis | woo |
| 01:30.20 | art3mis | rambo workprint! |
| 01:34.18 | Funkeh` | anyone on a 64bit pc with vent working fine? |
| 01:44.25 | kd3 | yup. running wine in 32-bit mode, thoug |
| 01:44.27 | kd3 | h |
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| 02:01.45 | [Liquidor] | http://armory.artoman.com/ :)) |
| 02:05.49 | Tem | php |
| 02:05.49 | Tem | lawl |
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| 02:08.21 | Elessdy | damn, i'm really laggy in wow tonight |
| 02:08.25 | Elessdy | and we're trying leo for the first time :( |
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| 02:17.04 | ralfWORK | yea wow is laggy for me too |
| 02:17.33 | Corrodias | i'm lagged up the wazoo. :( |
| 02:17.43 | sacarasc | :o |
| 02:17.43 | Corrodias | not a good time for a 25m raid |
| 02:18.06 | sacarasc | do you often get "lag" up the wazoo? |
| 02:18.18 | Corrodias | no, it's normally a fabulous connection |
| 02:32.18 | ralfWORK | sacarasc: I think he might |
| 02:32.23 | ralfWORK | not sure though |
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| 02:57.00 | Corrodias | Leo's whirlwind is hard to avoid... |
| 02:57.13 | Corrodias | at least as melee, unless i run out to a FAR distance before he starts it |
| 02:59.05 | ralfWORK | I hope to have that problem some day |
| 03:05.08 | NightHawkTheSane | Corrodias: sorry, no idea how our melee deal with it. I'm a healer, so *shrug* |
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| 03:43.26 | sysrage | ZA timer is 2 days or 3? |
| 03:43.36 | Xinhuan | 3 |
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| 03:44.34 | sysrage | ty |
| 03:45.22 | kd3 | got down to ~28 this morning... I'm eating ice cream right now |
| 03:47.49 | Corrodias | our people don't know how to get out of his whirlwinds |
| 03:47.53 | Corrodias | he's eating us alive on those |
| 03:48.01 | Corrodias | i run away and don't get hit. HOW COMPLICATED IS THAT? |
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| 03:48.40 | Corrodias | apparently some of us have trouble killing the demons, too, which i can understand. the hunter having trouble i don't understand, but the holy priest, yeah |
| 03:48.43 | Thrae|Work | People that don't know how to get out of Whirlwinds should go practice on Herold |
| 03:48.59 | Thrae|Work | SM Armoury FTW |
| 03:50.11 | mikma | http://students.washington.edu/wobbly/images/wow/loladin.jpg |
| 03:53.08 | Shirik | http://youtube.com/watch?v=l-tQalNGY6k |
| 03:59.33 | mikma | i wonder do people even know from where is that original song from |
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| 04:11.21 | Corrodias | sometimes we're decent at this raiding but wow, we suck on Leo |
| 04:12.14 | Corrodias | it looks like it IS an easy fight if people know how to stay mobile |
| 04:17.25 | Corrodias | well, not as easy for melee |
| 04:17.31 | Corrodias | i don't see how i can do much during phase 3 |
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| 04:47.22 | MentalPower | khangg: please do not use auto-away messages |
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| 04:51.44 | Corrodias | the irony, of course, is that he can't see that because he's away |
| 04:52.13 | |pez| | and not a part of the channel anymore. |
| 04:59.55 | Corrodias | hey. |
| 05:00.15 | Corrodias | what kind of DPS can a shadow priest at early SSC level do? |
| 05:00.35 | Tem | Corrodias, lowest of all dps probably |
| 05:00.46 | Tem | but he's still a huge benefit to your raid |
| 05:00.49 | Corrodias | a very unattractive number |
| 05:02.34 | Corrodias | is it REALLY a huge benefit? >_> |
| 05:03.24 | Corrodias | it feels so strange to consider that a little health and mana is worth so much... oh yeah, i just remembered the lack of threat reduction. that's not cool. |
| 05:03.39 | Corrodias | compared to soulshatter and invisibility, i mean |
| 05:04.11 | Tem | invis is terribad |
| 05:04.17 | Tem | worst aggro dump in the game |
| 05:04.27 | Tem | soulshatter isn't terribly good either |
| 05:04.32 | Corrodias | why? 5 seconds of standing still and you drop all threat, no? |
| 05:04.41 | Tem | 5 seconds of no dps |
| 05:04.51 | Tem | and if you get hit, you lose it |
| 05:05.12 | Tem | also, if your tank is having trouble keeping agro of your shadow priests, lol |
| 05:05.39 | Corrodias | hmm. cool... |
| 05:06.10 | Corrodias | now if only they had given the shadow priest an additional CC spell |
| 05:06.27 | Corrodias | but i guess shamans have it worse on that front |
| 05:06.35 | Tem | The real benefit is the mana restore |
| 05:06.37 | Corrodias | and we LOVE them for their buffs |
| 05:06.40 | Tem | and misery |
| 05:06.50 | Tem | misery is +5% magic dps |
| 05:06.53 | Tem | that's awesome |
| 05:06.56 | Corrodias | debuff on the target? |
| 05:06.59 | Tem | aye |
| 05:07.44 | Corrodias | that -is- awfully nice |
| 05:10.14 | MentalPower | ok, I'm looking for this website that has a bunch of open source projects and statistics on them (like number of devs, commits, cost of development, etc) anyone remember the URL? |
| 05:10.52 | Corrodias | sourceforge |
| 05:11.02 | MentalPower | no, not SF |
| 05:11.03 | Corrodias | i have no idea |
| 05:11.35 | MentalPower | you submit your project and give them your SVN repo, they scan it and present you with a estimated development cost number |
| 05:11.40 | Shirik | (00:02:01) (Corrodias) is it REALLY a huge benefit? >_> |
| 05:11.44 | Shirik | Yes, if your raid leaders are intelligent |
| 05:11.51 | MentalPower | as if the volunteers on the project were actually paid |
| 05:11.53 | Shirik | Most seem to put shadow priests into healing groups |
| 05:11.55 | Shirik | this is wrong. |
| 05:12.00 | Shirik | They need to go into DPS groups |
| 05:12.11 | Shirik | You can increase your DPS substantially like this; healers should be able to hold their own |
| 05:12.26 | Corrodias | true, our healers don't seem to have had huge mana issues or anything |
| 05:12.31 | Corrodias | although i don't know if our dps runs out of mana |
| 05:12.41 | Shirik | they likely are holding back if they don't |
| 05:12.53 | Corrodias | mages have their stones and evocation, warlocks the life taps... hunters are SOL though |
| 05:13.02 | Corrodias | life taps being the evil route |
| 05:13.14 | Shirik | warlocks are ok |
| 05:13.28 | Shirik | mages don't have enough (though with their new stones I haven't looked at how they're doing) |
| 05:14.29 | Corrodias | i had a grand ol' time on my hunter when we had a shadow priest around, but he's like half-kara geared, so i can't really compare it to what he would be doing if he had decent mana-regenning gear |
| 05:15.45 | Corrodias | alright, i think i'm going to play him a bit tomorrow. maybe tonight, but i've got a bit of a lag problem. |
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| 05:19.08 | Corrodias | the relevance of the usefulness of these alts in raids is questionable, since my druid plays in 80% of them, and my hunter who has been 70 for ages has just recently been on the alt-kara runs |
| 05:19.37 | MentalPower | Corrodias: http://www.ohloh.net/projects/10394?p=Auctioneer |
| 05:19.42 | MentalPower | found it :) |
| 05:20.08 | MentalPower | it sucks that it does not track branches tho |
| 05:20.15 | Shirik | windows explorer is teh restarting lawl |
| 05:21.00 | Corrodias | i see |
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| 05:30.09 | Tem | Shirik, explorer crashes like twice a day for me |
| 05:30.18 | Shirik | maybe twice a month for me |
| 05:30.23 | art3mis | that's because you suck |
| 05:30.49 | art3mis | explorer is a drive browser not a shell ;P |
| 05:31.05 | ScytheBlade1 | I don't believe I've ever had explorer crash on me within the last six months... and yes, that's on my windows box :P |
| 05:31.14 | Tem | art3mis, vista |
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| 05:35.44 | Corrodias | now i consider the rest of my night. hell, i could go to bed early. |
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| 05:39.43 | Shirik | The operation cannot continue as the audio codec has jammed. |
| 05:39.45 | Shirik | That's a new error message. |
| 05:39.52 | kd3 | "jammed" |
| 05:39.56 | kd3 | wth kind of error is that? |
| 05:40.02 | Shirik | VirtualDub error? |
| 05:40.18 | Shirik | screenshotted :P |
| 05:41.09 | Shirik | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/b0d218e53525eb82fe5be2b61dd11c37.jpg |
| 05:43.08 | bleeter | Shirik is an jam |
| 05:43.20 | bleeter | as is my ISP |
| 05:43.46 | Corrodias | mt connection sucks right now |
| 05:46.19 | bleeter | kd3: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4311163757&sid=1 |
| 05:47.25 | kd3 | oh yah. that's been a rather amusing thread |
| 05:48.44 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm kinda afraid that 2.4 will be on the PTR soon |
| 05:49.09 | kd3 | will be? I'm getting more worried that it won't... the forum purge hasn't happened yet. was honestly expecting it this week |
| 05:49.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Any website page related to the PTR is coming up with "server busy" |
| 05:49.43 | ScytheBlade1 | So either pricks are DDoSing it, or, something is actually changing behind the scenes |
| 05:50.14 | kd3 | dunno. the client download's pointing to the 2.3.2->0.3.3 build |
| 05:50.27 | ScytheBlade1 | The download page is giving me a busy error. |
| 05:50.45 | kd3 | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/clients/pc/ptr-downloader-enUS.html |
| 05:50.55 | ScytheBlade1 | http://test.worldofwarcraft.com/ptr/downloads/downloads.html |
| 05:50.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Er, whoa |
| 05:51.07 | ScytheBlade1 | wow.com/ptr/ is bouncing you to test.wow.com now |
| 05:51.29 | NightHawkTheSane | its been like that for a while i think |
| 05:52.34 | Cidan | I'm tired as shit |
| 05:52.39 | Cidan | do I a) go to bed |
| 05:52.42 | Cidan | b) code |
| 05:52.48 | kd3 | c) find more caffeine |
| 05:52.54 | Cidan | c) stay up playing Gametap 'til I passout |
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| 05:53.23 | NightHawkTheSane | Cidan: c, b, then a. |
| 05:56.08 | art3mis | gametap is ebil |
| 05:56.52 | Cidan | ebil? |
| 05:58.17 | Shirik | Option B |
| 05:58.20 | Shirik | with regards to my AVI |
| 05:58.22 | Shirik | that I am about to show you |
| 06:01.45 | art3mis | I'd be catious opening that |
| 06:02.11 | art3mis | cautious |
| 06:02.28 | Shirik | grrrr |
| 06:02.31 | Shirik | wtb place to upload AVI |
| 06:04.35 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4311143756&postId=43106867947&sid=1#0 |
| 06:04.42 | ScytheBlade1 | I wonder if that will exist in the morning. |
| 06:04.51 | MentalPower | Shirik: rapidshare |
| 06:04.53 | MentalPower | or similar |
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| 06:05.17 | MentalPower | gnight all |
| 06:05.40 | Corrodias | this customer support forum is fun |
| 06:07.27 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter: that was perfect |
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| 06:08.00 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter: like, if I knew you in real life? I'd have to pass you some amount of money |
| 06:09.21 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: hmmm? |
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| 06:09.38 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter: you replied to my thread on the PTR forums |
| 06:09.43 | bleeter | oh yeah |
| 06:11.12 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: I was gunna say 'but but but.. MS *does* need nerfing' P |
| 06:11.14 | bleeter | *:P |
| 06:11.17 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 06:11.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Wouldn't blame you. Literally any reply to that thread is going to be as valid as the next. |
| 06:12.31 | bleeter | btw, I would be far from unsuprised if 2.4PTR doesn't go up on a Friday afternoon, gives a weekend of testing and forum threads of glaringly obvious issues ;) |
| 06:12.54 | ScytheBlade1 | That's a good point |
| 06:13.36 | bleeter | on a major patch, first PTR's bound to be mostly throw-away code ;) |
| 06:15.06 | bleeter | hmm, throw in slouken and zoot's UI change news yesterday, I smell a build that's fer sure ;) |
| 06:16.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Whoa, I missed those posts |
| 06:16.42 | bleeter | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968233433&sid=1&pageNo=8#156 |
| 06:16.47 | bleeter | and the one just above it |
| 06:16.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Already there |
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| 06:17.10 | bleeter | I'm still trying to decypher Zoot's post. Can be read a couple of ways :/ |
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| 06:18.15 | Corrodias | what! who the heck is zoot? |
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| 06:18.25 | bleeter | (1) Addons that interact with Interface Options will no longer taint (2) Addons that interact with Interface Options will have their own special area for configuration inside Interface Options (3) All AddOns will be able to use a special area in Interface Options for their configuration panel |
| 06:18.27 | Shirik | omg |
| 06:18.31 | Shirik | read stickies plox |
| 06:18.59 | bleeter | Corrodias: slouken's official offsider |
| 06:18.59 | Corrodias | what's an offsider? |
| 06:18.59 | bleeter | partner in crime |
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| 06:19.17 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter: (2) is wrong as I read it... they're giving us a standard, seperate UI for addon configuration, not extending their own to accomodate ours |
| 06:19.23 | bleeter | in this case, it was the blue you got in UI/Macro when Slouken's off with wife having babies ;) 'cept he's sticking around after Slouken came back |
| 06:19.27 | ScytheBlade1 | That's what I got out of it anyways |
| 06:19.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Er no |
| 06:19.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm |
| 06:19.53 | ScytheBlade1 | I see your point :P |
| 06:19.53 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: yeah, that's how I read it first time. But a subsequent read had me reading other meaning |
| 06:20.07 | bleeter | ah, you too. glad it's not just me finding it a little ambiguous |
| 06:20.22 | bleeter | I certainly *hope* it's something in Interface Options where all addons can have their config displayed |
| 06:20.38 | bleeter | nothing worse than the current 15 bajillion places for config |
| 06:20.40 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd rather they add a button to the game menu instead |
| 06:20.58 | ScytheBlade1 | So instead of menu --> interface options --> addons, it'd be menu --> addon config |
| 06:21.21 | Corrodias | man, this combat event shakeup is going to really screw with the addon authors for a while |
| 06:21.31 | ScytheBlade1 | "for a while"? ;) |
| 06:21.59 | Shirik | A year later we'll get "halp my <insert 2 year old mod here> isn't working" |
| 06:22.05 | Corrodias | until they've gotten their relevant addons rewritten |
| 06:22.18 | Shirik | we still get questions like that for pre-BC mods on the forums |
| 06:22.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, there was one recently |
| 06:22.34 | Corrodias | like ItemRack? |
| 06:22.35 | Corrodias | ;) |
| 06:22.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | (outdated private servers) |
| 06:22.49 | Corrodias | fortunately, with a couple of tweaks, that one still works |
| 06:23.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Every single custom unit frame will go poof, every... well, almost everything period |
| 06:23.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Poor addon sites, hehe. |
| 06:24.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Servers go *boom*! |
| 06:24.20 | Corrodias | boom :( |
| 06:24.44 | Shirik | that's why wowi has a light version that's forced periodically :) |
| 06:24.56 | Shirik | and an extra-light version that happened during 2.0 heh |
| 06:25.00 | ScytheBlade1 | It'll be worse than 2.0, in a big way |
| 06:25.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, you'll get to bring that version out |
| 06:25.10 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: a button there would certainly make more sense, as for some addon's they ain't got nothing to do with the interface at all eh ;) |
| 06:25.50 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter: more or less exactly, and, I don't want to be forced into a full-screen config page when I'm playing with... ... my UI that is hidden beneath said config page. |
| 06:26.41 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: I suspect it might be something they'd consider, once the PTR is up ;) |
| 06:26.48 | Esamynn | ~lart Thunder_Child |
| 06:26.48 | purl | pulls out his louisville slugger and uses Thunder_Child's head to break the homerun record |
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| 06:27.53 | Tem | I read it as "We're adding an addon option space to our interface options" |
| 06:27.56 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: that full screen config page shits me no end |
| 06:28.06 | Tem | I suspect they're getting rid of that too |
| 06:28.07 | Thunder_Child | yes my child? |
| 06:28.11 | Tem | since it sucks so bad |
| 06:28.15 | ScytheBlade1 | I would hope |
| 06:28.55 | bleeter | I must say, though, that config/preference choice design and inplementation is prolly one of the hardest bits of coding to get right |
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| 06:29.42 | bleeter | you either end up with something very generic that won't work well for a certain set of options, or a list 10000 long that 9/10ths are never used, so on and so forth |
| 06:32.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's why you need lots of options and some preconfigured profiles |
| 06:32.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm a fan of mods with thousands of options, except when the SVs get reset somehow |
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| 06:47.22 | Shirik | I really love nightwish's work. I wish there were more music like this http://youtube.com/watch?v=GdZn7k5rZLQ |
| 06:47.27 | Shirik | Their music videos could use a lot of work though |
| 06:47.36 | Shirik | songs are good though |
| 06:48.03 | Duman | do you like the old or new singer better? |
| 06:48.16 | Shirik | I don't know, I just discovered them about a week and a half ago |
| 06:48.23 | Duman | and yes, i realize they sort of have different styles |
| 06:48.24 | Duman | oh |
| 06:49.25 | Duman | check out 'Delight', too |
| 06:49.32 | Shirik | thanks |
| 06:49.54 | Duman | lemme find one |
| 06:50.09 | Duman | http://youtube.com/watch?v=RpRCtJ22bjU |
| 06:50.25 | Duman | eh, audio is off on that vid |
| 06:50.28 | Corrodias | ah, nightwish. i've heard a couple of their songs -- or at least one -- on pandora |
| 06:50.39 | Shirik | pandora is how I found them actually |
| 06:50.50 | Shirik | I don't use pandora but a friend of mine at IEEE does and that's what we were using two weeks ago |
| 06:50.52 | Corrodias | and i believe most music videos are crap |
| 06:51.55 | Duman | I've been listening to Killswitch Engage recently |
| 06:52.03 | art3mis | except the deathklok music videos |
| 06:52.13 | Corrodias | haven't seen those |
| 06:52.18 | Duman | I think their latest album has been in my changer (in the car) for a while now, heh |
| 06:52.48 | Duman | KsE, All the Remains, Soilwork and In FLames are in there right now |
| 06:52.56 | Duman | hmm, something else, too...can't remember what |
| 06:53.12 | Duman | oh, Mercenary |
| 06:58.39 | *** join/#wowi-lounge jscinoz (n=jscinoz@c220-239-3-81.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 07:04.01 | kd3 | lol. I dodged once before Gruul smacked me for 15k |
| 07:05.03 | art3mis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-80XmX-hqo |
| 07:05.29 | art3mis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMuWxLea2yA |
| 07:08.55 | Thunder_Child | ~scream |
| 07:08.56 | purl | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh!!! |
| 07:10.14 | NightHawkTheSane | wooo.. kael down |
| 07:12.33 | art3mis | tension breaker, had to be done |
| 07:13.24 | Thunder_Child | ~tense |
| 07:13.29 | Thunder_Child | ... |
| 07:13.34 | Thunder_Child | ~tense art3mis |
| 07:13.38 | Thunder_Child | bah |
| 07:16.42 | Thunder_Child | ~combo breaker |
| 07:17.22 | *** join/#wowi-lounge zenzio (n=zenzelez@85.19.77.194) |
| 07:17.27 | art3mis | ~FYL Thunder_Child |
| 07:17.31 | art3mis | aww |
| 07:17.46 | art3mis | Fatality, YOU LOSE Thunderchild. |
| 07:18.41 | Thunder_Child | ~ftl |
| 07:18.46 | Thunder_Child | wow |
| 07:18.48 | Thunder_Child | not even that |
| 07:21.08 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Kaelten (n=kaelten@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/WoWIFA/CurseStaff/kaelten) |
| 07:21.08 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+v Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 07:22.57 | Shirik | This is boring |
| 07:23.01 | bleeter | no u |
| 07:23.04 | Shirik | I used to say "welcome to hell" to every new guild member |
| 07:23.12 | Shirik | But now I'm in a guild called "Hellscreams Vengeance" |
| 07:23.19 | Shirik | It doesn't work anymore |
| 07:23.58 | bleeter | got someone in my guild that has one of those auto-announce bot things... drives me mad |
| 07:24.13 | bleeter | and |
| 07:24.30 | bleeter | I need some AI mod that detects which series of 'grats' to respond to |
| 07:24.32 | Shirik | "grats on leveling" etc? |
| 07:24.41 | Shirik | so annoying |
| 07:24.47 | Shirik | if you can't take the time to personally congratulate someone |
| 07:24.50 | Shirik | just go away |
| 07:25.12 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, say "Welcome to Life" |
| 07:25.21 | bleeter | tbh, she swears that she waits and approves the spam, rather than fully automatic, so er I spose it's meant to make it ok |
| 07:26.03 | Shirik | And that's supposed to be more conventient than saying "grats" |
| 07:26.19 | Shirik | anyway, sorry bleeter, AI is not my area of specialty |
| 07:26.28 | Shirik | I deal far too low level for that |
| 07:26.29 | bleeter | bummer |
| 07:26.40 | bleeter | but it's something we'd all like, correct? |
| 07:26.41 | Shirik | I /have/ dealt with AI communications |
| 07:26.50 | Shirik | that's fun, because it needs to be damn fast |
| 07:26.57 | bleeter | something that works out which bits of /trade to just completely ignore |
| 07:27.06 | Shirik | I'm worried about one of the bots I'm working on right now because it's taking 20ms to do something. Far too slow. |
| 07:29.08 | Shirik | In my experiences, a good AI can't be coded all in one place. But I'm used to things a bit more complex than figuring out what a "grats" is :P |
| 07:30.23 | Shirik | christ |
| 07:30.27 | Shirik | FBI just posted ANOTHER opening |
| 07:30.29 | Shirik | Salary Range: $98033.00-$127442.00 |
| 07:30.29 | Shirik | 1 vacancy at Washington DC Metro Area, DC |
| 07:31.00 | Shirik | I find it very amusing that they have EXE files on their server |
| 07:31.15 | Shirik | The following Federal Bureau of Investigation job was just posted at https://jobs1.quickhire.com/scripts/fbi.exe |
| 07:31.53 | Shirik | wait a second |
| 07:31.55 | Shirik | I'm an idiot |
| 07:31.56 | Shirik | don't click that |
| 07:32.14 | Shirik | I'm going to go crawl in a hole now |
| 07:32.31 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 07:32.47 | Shirik | No, I'm pretty sure that's right |
| 07:33.07 | Shirik | This is exactly what the FBI job site and email looks like, and how could anyone know I signed up for those notifications, in that specific department.... |
| 07:33.23 | Shirik | https://jobs1.quickhire.com/scripts/fbi.exe/rundirect?Org=1&Job=10842 |
| 07:33.25 | Shirik | that works right :/ |
| 07:33.29 | Shirik | I'm confused now |
| 07:34.53 | Shirik | Yeah, fbi.gov links directly to that exe |
| 07:34.58 | Shirik | So I wasn't stupid |
| 07:39.32 | Thunder_Child | ~omw |
| 07:39.33 | purl | omw is, like, "on my way" |
| 07:39.37 | Thunder_Child | meh |
| 07:39.43 | Thunder_Child | ~ftw |
| 07:39.44 | purl | i heard ftw is wtf backwards, or for the win |
| 07:40.17 | Thunder_Child | ~snafu |
| 07:40.18 | purl | [snafu] Situation Normal: All fux0red up. See also fux0red. |
| 07:40.24 | Thunder_Child | ... |
| 07:40.28 | Thunder_Child | ~fux0red |
| 07:40.28 | purl | fux0red is probably something that needs fix0ring |
| 07:40.36 | Shirik | ... |
| 07:40.41 | Thunder_Child | ~factinfo fux0red |
| 07:40.41 | purl | fux0red -- created by asuffield <rewt@193.129.76.82> at Thu Feb 15 15:12:24 2001 (2541 days); it has been requested 3 times, last by Thunder_Child, 13s ago. |
| 07:40.47 | Thunder_Child | ~factinfo snafu |
| 07:40.48 | purl | snafu -- it has been requested 5 times, last by Thunder_Child, 30s ago. |
| 07:40.54 | Shirik | ~nickometer asuffield |
| 07:41.02 | Thunder_Child | ~fubar |
| 07:41.03 | purl | fubar is f*cked up beyond any recognition, e.g. "This whole operation is fubar, soldier" (gay lisp included), or a Bar addon like Titan Panel and Telo's Infobar. |
| 07:41.03 | Shirik | purl, I disagree |
| 07:41.04 | purl | You disagree? |
| 07:41.11 | Shirik | Yes, that is what I said, I disagree. |
| 07:41.22 | Thunder_Child | ~los |
| 07:41.23 | purl | Line of Sight |
| 07:41.42 | Thunder_Child | no, purl los is Line of Sight or Loss of Signal |
| 07:41.49 | Thunder_Child | no, purl, los is Line of Sight or Loss of Signal |
| 07:42.03 | Thunder_Child | purl, no los is Line of Sight or Loss of Signal |
| 07:42.04 | purl | Thunder_Child: okay |
| 07:42.09 | Thunder_Child | err.. |
| 07:42.12 | Thunder_Child | ~no loss |
| 07:42.15 | Thunder_Child | ~los |
| 07:42.16 | purl | los is, like, Line of Sight or Loss of Signal |
| 07:42.22 | Thunder_Child | ok |
| 07:42.34 | Thunder_Child | ~tp |
| 07:42.34 | purl | [tp] I AM THE GREAT CORNHOLIO! I NEED TP FOR MY BUNGHOLE! |
| 07:42.37 | Tem | okay, something to do when you're bored |
| 07:42.49 | Shirik | play with purl, apparently |
| 07:42.56 | Thunder_Child | ~kpd |
| 07:43.01 | Tem | do WTS with items that you actually want to sell, but with the item names in german |
| 07:43.06 | Thunder_Child | i am cheking purl's alphabet soup |
| 07:43.11 | Thunder_Child | ~alphabet soup |
| 07:43.21 | Thunder_Child | purl kpd is Kills per Death |
| 07:43.22 | purl | Thunder_Child: okay |
| 07:43.34 | Thunder_Child | ~vtol |
| 07:43.54 | Shirik | http://xkcd.com/ |
| 07:44.05 | Shirik | Tem: That works? |
| 07:44.18 | Tem | Shirik, the client accepts item names in any locale |
| 07:44.24 | Tem | regardless of the server's locale |
| 07:44.26 | Thunder_Child | purl vtol is Vertical Take Off and Landing |
| 07:44.27 | purl | Thunder_Child: okay |
| 07:44.30 | Guillotine | I actually didn't think that was the greatest XKCD |
| 07:44.33 | Guillotine | yesterdays was though |
| 07:44.38 | Tem | Shirik, it'll even take koKR |
| 07:44.39 | Thunder_Child | purl, no vtol is Vertical Take-Off and Landing |
| 07:44.40 | purl | okay, Thunder_Child |
| 07:44.41 | Shirik | yesterday's was awesome |
| 07:44.47 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Cairen1 (n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn) |
| 07:44.47 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o Cairen1] by ChanServ |
| 07:44.48 | Tem | but it can't display it, so it appears to not be there |
| 07:44.48 | Shirik | Tem: But it's the server's decision to DC you, isn't it? |
| 07:44.55 | Tem | aye |
| 07:45.02 | Tem | and it doesn't |
| 07:45.04 | Guillotine | and the Epoch Fail one was Epic Win |
| 07:45.06 | Shirik | interesting |
| 07:45.26 | Shirik | Tem: Got an example link? |
| 07:45.31 | Tem | Patrón: botas de oscuridad absoluta |
| 07:45.41 | Guillotine | I'm off to bed, night all :) |
| 07:45.46 | art3mis | noooooooooooooooo |
| 07:45.47 | Shirik | do you have the link code too? >< |
| 07:45.52 | art3mis | cairenn assploded! |
| 07:45.53 | Thunder_Child | night Guillotine |
| 07:46.00 | Tem | "\124cffa335ee\124Hitem:30306:0:0:0:0:0:0:0\124h[Pattern: Boots of Utter Darkness]\124h\124r" |
| 07:46.02 | Cairenn | night Guillotine |
| 07:46.04 | Shirik | <3 |
| 07:46.05 | Cairenn | art3mis: heh |
| 07:46.08 | Guillotine | night TC and Cairenn :) |
| 07:46.24 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Guillotine (n=Guilloti@cpe-76-167-213-238.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 07:46.46 | Tem | "\124cffa335ee\124Hitem:30306:0:0:0:0:0:0:0\124h[Patrón: botas de oscuridad absoluta]\124h\124r" |
| 07:48.36 | Shirik | ok wow |
| 07:48.39 | Shirik | I can't copy-paste that, Tem |
| 07:48.47 | Shirik | can you do a string.byte on that o thingy? |
| 07:48.55 | Shirik | my client sucks |
| 07:49.12 | Shirik | rón |
| 07:49.15 | Shirik | oh okay |
| 07:49.17 | Shirik | it comes up NOW |
| 07:49.20 | Shirik | wtf is with my chat box |
| 07:49.21 | Tem | "\124cffa335ee\124Hitem:30306:0:0:0:0:0:0:0\124h[Patrón: botas de oscuridad absoluta]\124h\124r" |
| 07:49.29 | Shirik | lua>string.byte("ó") |
| 07:49.29 | lua_bot | Shirik: 195, |
| 07:49.50 | Tem | lua> ("\124cffa335ee\124Hitem:30306:0:0:0:0:0:0:0\124h[Patrón: botas de oscuridad absoluta]\124h\124r"):byte() |
| 07:49.51 | lua_bot | Tem: 124, |
| 07:49.59 | Tem | erm |
| 07:50.05 | Tem | why? |
| 07:50.14 | Shirik | byte only does the first char :P |
| 07:50.19 | Shirik | which is obviously \124 |
| 07:50.20 | Tem | oh right |
| 07:50.21 | Tem | >< |
| 07:50.45 | Tem | ~lart Tem |
| 07:50.45 | purl | takes a large goose feather pillow and swings it wildly in Tem's direction, hitting Tem and sending Tem flying into the closet |
| 07:50.55 | Shirik | lua> #("ó") |
| 07:50.56 | lua_bot | Shirik: 2 |
| 07:50.58 | Shirik | that's what I thought. |
| 07:51.04 | Shirik | hrm |
| 07:51.09 | art3mis | wow tem you spent a lot of time in that closet |
| 07:51.22 | Tem | ~lart3mis |
| 07:51.23 | purl | ACTION smacks art3mis upside the head just cuz |
| 07:51.47 | art3mis | I've seen that alrt like 3 times today |
| 07:51.51 | art3mis | all on you |
| 07:52.03 | art3mis | is there something you're not telling us, yourself and possibly your parents? |
| 07:52.10 | Shirik | lua> for x in ("ó"):gmatch(".") do print(string.byte(x)) end |
| 07:52.10 | lua_bot | Shirik: 195, 179 |
| 07:53.04 | Esamynn | http://xkcd.com/378/ <- ROFLMAO |
| 07:53.54 | Shirik | This worked Tem: /script SendChatMessage("\124cffa335ee\124Hitem:30306:0:0:0:0:0:0:0\124h[Patr\195\179n: botas de oscuridad absoluta]\124h\124r", "GUILD") |
| 07:53.57 | Esamynn | and with that, I say good night |
| 07:54.57 | art3mis | hehe the hover over is even better |
| 07:55.06 | Shirik | My trade chat is boring |
| 07:55.12 | Shirik | they didn't even take a second look at it |
| 07:55.16 | art3mis | so what OS you running? EMACS |
| 07:55.45 | art3mis | Endless Machine Access Code Stuff ! |
| 07:56.46 | kd3 | escape meta alt ctrl shift |
| 07:57.02 | Thunder_Child | EMACS Makes A Computer Slow |
| 07:57.10 | Thunder_Child | Eight Megs And Constantly Swapping |
| 07:57.19 | Thunder_Child | Embarrassed Manual-Writer Accused of Communist Subversion |
| 07:58.06 | Thunder_Child | EMACS May Allow Customized Screwups |
| 07:58.44 | Shirik | I use vim =( |
| 07:58.47 | kd3 | gvim <3 |
| 07:58.56 | Shirik | vim vim! |
| 07:59.02 | art3mis | Must Consult Someone Experienced. |
| 07:59.05 | Shirik | Mostly because I can't get X running, nor do I have any real desire to get it to run |
| 07:59.39 | art3mis | Minesweeper Champion and Solitaire Expert |
| 08:00.14 | Shirik | Though I have to admit, I WAS using cat yesterday |
| 08:00.15 | Shirik | that was fun |
| 08:00.19 | Shirik | programming over a serial connection, lol |
| 08:00.24 | Thunder_Child | PhD |
| 08:00.24 | Thunder_Child | Piled High and Deep |
| 08:00.32 | Thunder_Child | DOS |
| 08:00.32 | Thunder_Child | Defunct Operating System |
| 08:00.39 | Thunder_Child | BASIC |
| 08:00.39 | Thunder_Child | Bill's Attempt to Seize Industry Control |
| 08:00.50 | Thunder_Child | ISDN |
| 08:00.50 | Thunder_Child | It Still Does Nothing |
| 08:01.15 | art3mis | heh |
| 08:01.30 | Thunder_Child | LISP |
| 08:01.30 | Thunder_Child | Lots of Infuriating and Silly Parentheses |
| 08:01.48 | art3mis | I think LISP is gay sums it up pretty good |
| 08:01.51 | Thunder_Child | MICRO$OFT |
| 08:01.51 | Thunder_Child | Mac Imitation from a Corrupt Roguish Organization Selling Only Faulty Technology |
| 08:03.24 | Thunder_Child | COMPUTER Capable Of Making Perfectly Uncomplicated Tasks Extremely Rigorous |
| 08:03.47 | Thunder_Child | LOTUS Lots Of Trouble, Usually Serious |
| 08:03.54 | Thunder_Child | MCSE Must Consult Someone Experienced |
| 08:04.01 | Thunder_Child | MCSE Making Computers Slow Everyday |
| 08:04.03 | art3mis | {Windows: n. 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition.} |
| 08:04.32 | Shirik | I actually liked lotus notes |
| 08:04.46 | Thunder_Child | NTSC Never The Same Color |
| 08:04.53 | Thunder_Child | PASCAL Pedantry And Strictness Created A Language |
| 08:05.04 | Thunder_Child | PENTIUM Produces Erroneous Numbers Thru Incorrect Understanding of Mathematics |
| 08:05.11 | Thunder_Child | PMS Potential Murder Suspect |
| 08:05.12 | Thunder_Child | heh |
| 08:05.35 | art3mis | CMS Constant Menstral Syndrome |
| 08:05.44 | art3mis | most moms and girlfriends suffer from this |
| 08:07.21 | Thunder_Child | Figure out your own acronyms for the following universities. |
| 08:07.21 | Thunder_Child | Sam Houston Institute of Technology |
| 08:07.21 | Thunder_Child | Fresno University for Cultural Knowledge |
| 08:07.21 | Thunder_Child | Califonia University for Nuclear Technology |
| 08:11.25 | Tem | giggle |
| 08:11.25 | Tem | http://xkcd.com/123/ |
| 08:11.36 | Thunder_Child | CCNA: Can’t Configure Networks Anymore |
| 08:11.48 | Thunder_Child | CCNP: Can’t Control Network Protocols |
| 08:12.39 | Shirik | See I dislike that comic though, because dealing with physics in non-intertial frames of reference is almost always a painful process :P |
| 08:12.45 | Shirik | imho that's the only reason it comes up |
| 08:13.06 | Shirik | well, it IS why it comes up |
| 08:13.08 | Shirik | no opinion to it |
| 08:13.36 | Thunder_Child | and in no way is it humble |
| 08:13.37 | Thunder_Child | ever |
| 08:13.46 | Shirik | When am I ever humble? |
| 08:13.51 | Thunder_Child | exactly |
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| 08:22.17 | KarlKFI | =D 2k ap and 30% crit |
| 08:22.35 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:22.55 | KarlKFI | gotta log so it updates my profile |
| 08:23.44 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Kalroth (n=kalroth@0x573f1066.hjnqu1.broadband.tele.dk) |
| 08:23.51 | KarlKFI | go |
| 08:24.53 | KarlKFI | not in pvp gear tho |
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| 08:25.14 | KarlKFI | what's the bot /duel command? |
| 08:26.41 | KarlKFI | tem: what's ur char's name? |
| 08:26.46 | Tem | temaile |
| 08:27.04 | Tem | !c us garona temaile |
| 08:27.08 | ThraeBot | Tem: Temaile, Level 70 Human Mage (17/0/44). 10083 HP; 9221 Mana; 130 mana regen; 297 spell crit; 35 spell hit; 860 +spell dmg/heal; 5.02% dodge; 401 resilience; 18 frost resist; +4 all resists;[[ TBR: 900 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/22lt8g ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3c3efv ][ Updated: Fri Feb 1 03:35:50 2008 EST ]] |
| 08:27.51 | KarlKFI | !c us kil'jaeden wraithhammer |
| 08:27.53 | ThraeBot | KarlKFI: Wraithhammer, Level 70 Human Paladin (5/0/56). 8837 HP; 5928 Mana; 100 mana regen; 14 mp5; 9992 Armour; 2010 AP; 290.400 Melee DPS; 29.90% melee crit; 146 melee hit; 35 +spell dmg/heal; 8.49% dodge; 5.00% block; 157 resilience;[[ TBR: 1091 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2b5zn3 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/36f8s2 ][ Updated: Fri Feb 1 03:36:35 2008 EST ]] |
| 08:28.16 | Tem | KarlKFI, that was mostly me just wanting to duel a ret pally with gear |
| 08:28.19 | Thunder_Child | 191 more tbr |
| 08:28.21 | Tem | you guys have be a bitch if geared |
| 08:28.31 | Tem | s/have/can/ |
| 08:28.53 | Tem | also, that TBR system is flawed |
| 08:29.02 | KarlKFI | !vs us kil'jaeden wraithhammer us garona temaile |
| 08:29.02 | ThraeBot | KarlKFI: Wraithhammer vs Temaile! A L70 paladin and a L70 mage square off!; 5/0/56 vs 17/0/44; Wraithhammer wins by 180 TBRs! |
| 08:29.08 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Rayne (n=gcittboy@d66-222-203-177.abhsia.telus.net) |
| 08:29.09 | Tem | a target with 157 resilience is going to hurt if I look his way |
| 08:29.32 | KarlKFI | that's in pve gear, heh |
| 08:29.53 | KarlKFI | pvp i toss on my chest, boots, belt, bracers and get 275ish |
| 08:30.00 | Arcaia | I need a new addon... something to play with |
| 08:30.02 | KarlKFI | and neck |
| 08:30.14 | Tem | ah much better |
| 08:30.15 | Arcaia | Something that isn't useless ;P |
| 08:30.45 | Tem | okay, leveling mining sucks |
| 08:30.47 | Shirik | TBR is very flawed |
| 08:30.51 | Shirik | priests are backwards |
| 08:31.06 | KarlKFI | i usually beat mages anyway |
| 08:31.08 | |Jelly| | !vs us burning legion jelly us drenden kimina |
| 08:31.13 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Jelly vs Kimina! Two 70 priests square off!; 18/43/0 vs 42/19/0; Jelly wins by 42 TBRs! |
| 08:31.20 | KarlKFI | warlocks fuck me up, tho |
| 08:31.22 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:31.42 | Tem | KarlKFI, warlocks fuck everyone up |
| 08:32.13 | Thunder_Child | !vs us burning legion jelly us draenor prismatic |
| 08:32.14 | KarlKFI | warriors usually get their asses handed to them |
| 08:32.16 | ThraeBot | Thunder_Child: Jelly vs Prismatic! Two 70 priests square off!; 18/43/0 vs 34/27/0; Jelly wins by 180 TBRs! |
| 08:32.19 | KarlKFI | rogues are a toss up |
| 08:32.20 | Thunder_Child | boo |
| 08:32.30 | |Jelly| | !co us burning legion jelly us drenden kimina |
| 08:32.31 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Jelly vs Kimina! Two 70 priests compare their stat differences; 18/43/0 vs 42/19/0; Kimina ++540 HP; Jelly ++108 +healing; Kimina ++0.84% dodge; Jelly ++96 +spelldmg; Kimina ++40 Armour; Kimina ++1370 Mana; Kimina ++46 mana regen; Kimina ++5 resilience; Kimina ++22 mp5; Kimina has 2% more stats then Jelly. |
| 08:32.47 | KarlKFI | hunters, eh, usually kill me |
| 08:32.54 | |Jelly| | !vs us burning legion klot us burning legion smitey |
| 08:32.59 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Klot vs Smitey! A L70 shaman and a L70 hunter square off!; 41/0/20 vs 41/20/0; Smitey wins by 142 TBRs! |
| 08:33.08 | KarlKFI | shammies and druids own me |
| 08:33.17 | KarlKFI | and pallies just suck |
| 08:33.19 | KarlKFI | to kill |
| 08:33.43 | Thunder_Child | !vs us burning legion jelly us draenor holytemplar |
| 08:33.47 | ThraeBot | Thunder_Child: Jelly vs Holytemplar! A L70 priest and a L70 paladin square off!; 18/43/0 vs 0/46/15; Holytemplar wins by 362 TBRs! |
| 08:34.00 | KarlKFI | i usually run outa mana and then have to give up, because if i try to drink they rez someone |
| 08:34.23 | Tem | also, TBRs fail to take into acount how l337 I am |
| 08:34.38 | KarlKFI | ret pallies are meh at pvp |
| 08:35.14 | Shirik | I love how I can tank practically entire AB teams |
| 08:35.15 | Tem | I think they're extremely effectice |
| 08:35.15 | Shirik | this is so fun |
| 08:35.20 | Thunder_Child | !vs us burning legion smitey us draenor holytemplar |
| 08:35.21 | ThraeBot | Thunder_Child: Smitey vs Holytemplar! A L70 hunter and a L70 paladin square off!; 41/20/0 vs 0/46/15; Holytemplar wins by 175 TBRs! |
| 08:35.22 | KarlKFI | no really great skills to use and no huge buffs, just a lot of small buffs |
| 08:36.00 | KarlKFI | stun's annoying, but i can't stunlock and can't keep anythign locked down or cc'd |
| 08:36.26 | Thunder_Child | !vs us draenor trancepants us draenor holytemplar |
| 08:36.29 | ThraeBot | Thunder_Child: Trancepants vs Holytemplar! A L70 rogue and a L70 paladin square off!; 20/0/41 vs 0/46/15; Trancepants wins by 884 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 08:37.02 | KarlKFI | even with the run speed buff if someone is actually rnning away from me it takes to long to catch up and they can cast dots or icebolts or hots |
| 08:37.18 | Thunder_Child | i assume trancepants will own any of you |
| 08:37.27 | Shirik | !vs us drenden kimina us draenor trancepants |
| 08:37.27 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Kimina vs Trancepants! A L70 priest and a L70 rogue square off!; 42/19/0 vs 20/0/41; Trancepants wins by 1089 TBRs! ***OWNED TO THE EXTREME!!*** |
| 08:37.31 | Shirik | ow |
| 08:37.43 | Thunder_Child | he is using warglave of azinoth |
| 08:37.49 | Shirik | still |
| 08:37.50 | Shirik | come on |
| 08:37.55 | Shirik | I have the priest version of cheat death |
| 08:38.00 | Shirik | it wouldn't be the EXTREME |
| 08:38.17 | KarlKFI | !vs us draenor tracepants us kil'jaeden wraithhammer |
| 08:38.18 | ThraeBot | KarlKFI: I failed on the first listed character. You fail. |
| 08:38.29 | KarlKFI | !vs us draenor trancepants us kil'jaeden wraithhammer |
| 08:38.30 | ThraeBot | KarlKFI: Trancepants vs Wraithhammer! A L70 rogue and a L70 paladin square off!; 20/0/41 vs 5/0/56; Trancepants wins by 876 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 08:38.49 | Arcaia | still.. wtb new exciting addon. |
| 08:38.52 | Thunder_Child | !c us draenor trancepants |
| 08:38.52 | ThraeBot | Thunder_Child: Trancepants, Level 70 Night Elf Rogue (20/0/41). 10914 HP; +10 Energy; 4305 Armour; 2043 AP; 378.300 Melee DPS; 31.55% melee crit; 127 melee hit; 33.36% dodge; 248 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1967 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2zjawq ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3xd27z ][ Updated: Fri Feb 1 03:45:11 2008 EST ]] |
| 08:39.15 | KarlKFI | tank gear? |
| 08:39.23 | Thunder_Child | on a rogue? |
| 08:39.25 | KarlKFI | oh, missread |
| 08:39.46 | Arcaia | !c us Shattered Hand Arcaia |
| 08:39.47 | KarlKFI | the sad thing is that my stats are almost as high as his.... |
| 08:39.48 | ThraeBot | Arcaia: Arcaia, Level 70 Human Rogue (16/45/0). 9194 HP; 1812 AP; 406.600 Melee DPS; 22.92% melee crit; 205 melee hit; 25.16% dodge; 75 resilience;[[ TBR: 1432 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/269oow ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2rhxsn ][ Updated: Fri Feb 1 03:48:30 2008 EST ]] |
| 08:39.56 | Arcaia | eww... pve gears. |
| 08:40.30 | KarlKFI | my pve gear has as less stats as his pvp gear |
| 08:41.00 | Arcaia | my pvp gear has higher TBR |
| 08:41.16 | Shirik | that's not how it works though |
| 08:41.27 | Arcaia | but it is. |
| 08:41.28 | Shirik | you can't relate the gear TBR to the vs TBR |
| 08:41.35 | Shirik | they are two different formulas |
| 08:41.44 | Arcaia | well this is true |
| 08:41.44 | Shirik | it's not just "subtract one from the other" |
| 08:41.59 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:42.02 | Tem | !vs us draenor trancepants us garona temaile |
| 08:42.03 | ThraeBot | Tem: Trancepants vs Temaile! A L70 rogue and a L70 mage square off!; 20/0/41 vs 17/0/44; Trancepants wins by 1084 TBRs! ***OWNED TO THE EXTREME!!*** |
| 08:42.07 | Tem | fail |
| 08:42.09 | Arcaia | because I found that my 39 twink had more TBR than a 70 holy priest, but it still said the holy priest would whoop my twink. |
| 08:42.28 | Arcaia | wtb - exciting new addon to play with - PST me info. |
| 08:45.29 | Kalroth | !vs us draenor trancepants eu stormrage kalroth |
| 08:45.29 | ThraeBot | Kalroth: trancepants vs kalroth! It's a showdown! But wait! What's this?! Something random? kalroth wins by 6721406 TBRs! Wow, that's GOTTA hurt. |
| 08:45.54 | Kalroth | err? |
| 08:46.02 | Kalroth | That's no fun :( |
| 08:46.24 | Thunder_Child | !vs us draenor trancepants us thunderhorn kinos |
| 08:46.25 | Arcaia | Trancepants d/c'd mid fight. |
| 08:46.27 | ThraeBot | Thunder_Child: Trancepants vs Kinos! A L70 rogue and a L70 shaman square off!; 20/0/41 vs 0/5/56; Trancepants wins by 881 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 08:46.42 | Kalroth | !vs us draenor trancepants eu stormrage kalroth |
| 08:46.45 | ThraeBot | Kalroth: Trancepants vs Kalroth! A L70 rogue and a L70 warrior square off!; 20/0/41 vs 3/43/15; Kalroth wins by 165 TBRs! |
| 08:46.46 | Arcaia | !vs us Draenor trancepants us shattered hand arcaia |
| 08:46.47 | ThraeBot | Arcaia: Trancepants vs Arcaia! Two 70 rogues square off!; 20/0/41 vs 16/45/0; Trancepants wins by 535 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 08:46.49 | Kalroth | hooray! |
| 08:46.54 | Arcaia | figures as much ;P |
| 08:46.57 | Thunder_Child | 165, heh |
| 08:47.46 | Thunder_Child | !vs us draenor trancepants us tichondrius rria |
| 08:47.49 | ThraeBot | Thunder_Child: Trancepants vs Rria! A L70 rogue and a L70 paladin square off!; 20/0/41 vs 41/20/0; Trancepants wins by 739 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 08:48.40 | Thunder_Child | !vs us draenor trancepants eu doomhammer mertai |
| 08:48.45 | ThraeBot | Thunder_Child: I failed on the second listed character. You half-fail. |
| 08:48.51 | Thunder_Child | !vs us draenor trancepants eu doomhammer mortai |
| 08:48.53 | ThraeBot | Thunder_Child: Trancepants vs Mortai! A L70 rogue and a L70 shaman square off!; 20/0/41 vs 16/45/0; Trancepants wins by 652 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 08:50.38 | Shirik | There are 20 of me on my RDX window |
| 08:50.43 | Shirik | RDX is so broken in BGs... |
| 08:51.15 | Thunder_Child | !vs us draenor trancepants us stonemaul coril |
| 08:51.18 | ThraeBot | Thunder_Child: Trancepants vs Coril! Two 70 rogues square off!; 20/0/41 vs 0/40/21; Trancepants wins by 538 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 08:51.22 | Thunder_Child | bah |
| 08:53.51 | Shirik | it is really sad that all I have to do to kill a rogue |
| 08:53.59 | Shirik | is stand there, hit sw:p, prayer of mending, and shield |
| 08:54.06 | Shirik | not even moving around |
| 08:54.18 | Tem | reflective sheild? |
| 08:54.22 | Tem | ie |
| 08:54.23 | Shirik | nope |
| 08:54.25 | Shirik | he just sucked |
| 08:54.27 | Tem | hah |
| 08:54.28 | Shirik | that bad |
| 08:54.36 | Shirik | like he's not even pulling me below 95% |
| 08:54.41 | Tem | ouch |
| 08:54.52 | Shirik | oh I did refresh inner fire |
| 08:54.54 | Shirik | sorry if that's cheating |
| 08:56.31 | Thunder_Child | ~cheater Shirik |
| 08:56.38 | Thunder_Child | ~cheat Shirik |
| 08:56.53 | Shirik | cheating? |
| 08:56.54 | Thunder_Child | -_- |
| 08:56.58 | Thunder_Child | ~cheating Shirik |
| 08:57.02 | Thunder_Child | -_- |
| 08:57.04 | Shirik | boo |
| 08:57.10 | Shirik | ~fail Thunder_Child |
| 08:57.11 | purl | Thunder_Child: Fail. |
| 08:57.33 | Shirik | wtf? I made that? |
| 08:57.37 | Shirik | purl, forget fail |
| 08:57.37 | purl | Shirik: i forgot fail |
| 08:57.41 | Shirik | ~fail Thunder_Child |
| 08:57.42 | purl | Thunder_Child: Fail. |
| 08:57.45 | Shirik | that's odd |
| 08:59.02 | Shirik | I know it used to be "gives <nick> thew orst grade imaginable, an A minus MINUS" |
| 08:59.16 | Shirik | I miss that one |
| 09:00.28 | Shirik | ~fail |
| 09:01.26 | Thunder_Child | ~fail Shirik |
| 09:01.27 | purl | Shirik: Fail. |
| 09:01.35 | Shirik | purl fails imo |
| 09:01.46 | Thunder_Child | ~factinfo fail |
| 09:01.46 | purl | Thunder_Child: there's no such factoid as fail |
| 09:01.50 | Thunder_Child | ~factinfo fail $nick |
| 09:01.51 | purl | Thunder_Child: there's no such factoid as fail $nick |
| 09:01.52 | Thunder_Child | meh |
| 09:03.42 | Fin | ~literal fail |
| 09:04.14 | Shirik | [#] 04:02:33 [VFL] Local time is 4:2, server time is 4:1 |
| 09:04.14 | Shirik | [#] 04:02:33 [VFL] Autodetected time difference: Server = Local + -0 hours |
| 09:04.24 | Shirik | I wonder if Veni actually thought that was a reasonable way to put those messages >.> |
| 09:05.11 | Fin | ~literal literal |
| 09:05.11 | purl | "literal" is "<reply>Leave me alone you! I won't reveal my secrets!" |
| 09:06.47 | Thunder_Child | ~~~~~~~~~~ |
| 09:06.50 | Thunder_Child | ~~~~~~~ |
| 09:06.50 | purl | ACTION lets a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh eat thunder_child. |
| 09:12.08 | Shirik | I love being a disc priest |
| 09:12.10 | Shirik | omg |
| 09:12.15 | Shirik | 7 people to take me down |
| 09:19.39 | Tem | Shirik, none of the people trying to kill you were a good mage |
| 09:19.56 | Tem | I can't kill you myself, but my dps + one other and you die |
| 09:20.03 | cladhaire | ScytheBlade1: how on earth do you think 2.4 is going to be worse than 2.0 was? |
| 09:20.04 | cladhaire | O.o |
| 09:20.18 | cladhaire | I thought you were a sane man, but I'm losing faith |
| 09:20.36 | Tem | only way would be if liek EVERY ZOMG ADDON used the new addon interface |
| 09:20.43 | Tem | (which I doubt) |
| 09:20.45 | cladhaire | yes, btu thats' not a forced update |
| 09:20.49 | Tem | (and it's not a forced update) |
| 09:20.50 | Tem | oh lol |
| 09:20.51 | cladhaire | 2.0 required every single addon to change their .toc |
| 09:20.54 | cladhaire | there was no getting aroun dis |
| 09:20.59 | cladhaire | thus, this cannot be worse than 2.0 |
| 09:21.00 | cladhaire | O.o |
| 09:21.02 | Tem | we think alike |
| 09:21.08 | cladhaire | It happens |
| 09:21.09 | cladhaire | :P |
| 09:23.24 | Thunder_Child | disturbing isnt it Tem |
| 09:23.36 | Tem | meh |
| 09:23.50 | Thunder_Child | thats not the answer i was looking for |
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| 09:27.01 | Elkano | omg... todays xkcd is just... |
| 09:27.18 | Tem | awesome, no? |
| 09:30.32 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 09:34.35 | Arcaia | how would you cast something on your self, via a macro? |
| 09:34.57 | Arrowmaster | /cast [target=player] spell |
| 09:35.01 | Arcaia | thanks |
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| 09:35.27 | Arcaia | yay |
| 09:35.33 | Thunder_Child | i dont get why blizz thinks it's ok that they screw up and we suffer |
| 09:37.22 | Elkano | depends on what they "screw up"... |
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| 09:38.39 | Thunder_Child | atm i was refering to the fact that attempting to drop one arena team glitches and makes you drop a diff one and you permanently lose your rating |
| 09:38.40 | Thunder_Child | personal rating |
| 09:38.40 | Thunder_Child | can glitch* |
| 09:39.00 | Thunder_Child | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=2405447262&postId=24049034629&sid=1#0 |
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| 09:41.56 | Shirik | Message: Error: AddOn CT_RaidAssist attempted to call a forbidden function (TargetUnit()) from a tainted execution path. |
| 09:42.03 | Shirik | rarhwahrwwrhahrarhrhrrr |
| 09:42.21 | Thunder_Child | woot, someone actually tried the burger in a can |
| 09:42.22 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/351304/cheeseburger-in-a-can-reviewed |
| 09:44.07 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/351122/10-of-the-most-blatantly-sexist-gadgets-ever-made-nsfw |
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| 09:47.44 | Thunder_Child | http://tyrisr.livejournal.com/16918.html nsfw |
| 10:12.25 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmG4X9PGOXs NSFW Language |
| 10:13.30 | sag_ich_nicht | lol Shirik |
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| 10:36.07 | Shirik | BUGFIX [r239] Fixed an issue where Conspiracy may attempt to access a variable by the wrong name |
| 10:36.23 | Shirik | BUGFIX [r240] Used the correct variable name in the correction to the incorrect variable name |
| 10:36.31 | otravi | :D |
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| 10:36.39 | Shirik | I need to go to sleep I think |
| 10:36.44 | sag_ich_nicht | yes, i agree. |
| 10:37.12 | otravi | Shirik: http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc61/lolgentoo/dependencies.jpg << related |
| 10:37.14 | Shirik | But unfortunately it's 5:30AM, I need to be in class at 10:30AM |
| 10:37.19 | Shirik | and I won't have an alarm clock |
| 10:37.37 | Shirik | otravi: lol |
| 10:37.39 | Shizen | hmm |
| 10:37.41 | sag_ich_nicht | fail |
| 10:37.43 | Shizen | aye Shirik o/ |
| 10:37.44 | otravi | I just use the speakers, and a cron :3 |
| 10:37.50 | Shirik | You! |
| 10:37.52 | Shirik | I have a question for you |
| 10:38.01 | Shirik | You deal with electronics right? |
| 10:38.02 | Shizen | I heard a rumour about unique IDs for same-named mobs come next patch ? |
| 10:38.04 | Shizen | errr |
| 10:38.06 | Shizen | yes |
| 10:38.13 | sag_ich_nicht | so do i, on rare occasions |
| 10:38.45 | Shizen | what is it, Shirik ? |
| 10:38.52 | Shizen | meh... your name reminds me of Shirrak >_> |
| 10:39.00 | Shirik | I have a microcontroller with a few analog inputs. When I remove the sensors that are on two of the three inputs (leaving only one left), the two inputs float to the value on the one remaining pin (typical, nothing new, I can resolve |
| 10:39.15 | Shirik | this with a pull down resistor. Attaching a 49K resistor pulled it to 0V like I expected) |
| 10:39.35 | Shizen | 49k ? |
| 10:39.40 | Shirik | Problem is when I have all three connected, when one of the sensors goes out of range and another is in range, the out-of-range sensor seems to report a very unstable signal |
| 10:39.57 | Shizen | do you have the datasheet ? |
| 10:39.57 | Shirik | Fluctuating everywhere between 0V and 1V |
| 10:40.09 | Shirik | (valid ranges are 0V to 3V) uh yes |
| 10:40.11 | Shizen | also, what sensors are these ? |
| 10:40.12 | Shirik | not sure if I have it right now though |
| 10:40.15 | Shirik | sharp IR |
| 10:40.21 | Shirik | IR distance sensors |
| 10:40.22 | Shizen | ah, Infrareds |
| 10:40.34 | Shizen | what's the common-detect voltage for it ? |
| 10:40.36 | Shirik | outputs a 0-3V signal which goes into an A-D converter |
| 10:40.42 | Shirik | I have no idea what that means |
| 10:40.53 | Shizen | so, 0 for 'NC' and 3 for '1' ? |
| 10:40.56 | sag_ich_nicht | well, do you NEED the range from 0 to 1V? if not, attach a z-diode that kills it off until the signal goes up enough to be "useful" |
| 10:40.59 | Shizen | oh wait |
| 10:41.02 | Shizen | DISTANCE sensor |
| 10:41.04 | Shirik | yes |
| 10:41.10 | Shizen | so a scaled voltage rise ? |
| 10:41.12 | Shizen | from 0 to 3 ? |
| 10:41.13 | Shirik | right |
| 10:41.42 | Shizen | h-mmm |
| 10:41.50 | Shizen | I'm thinking of an input crosstalk |
| 10:41.55 | Shizen | do you have the schematic ? |
| 10:41.57 | Shirik | I think so too |
| 10:42.00 | Shirik | yeah |
| 10:42.35 | Shizen | what MicroC is this btw ? |
| 10:42.37 | Shirik | not at school atm so you're going to have to give me a few seconds to find it >< |
| 10:42.41 | Shirik | Atmega 168 |
| 10:42.44 | Shizen | oh |
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| 10:42.57 | Shizen | the one you mentioned before |
| 10:43.16 | Shirik | yeah |
| 10:44.33 | Shirik | This is the actual device we're using: http://ladyada.net/make/boarduino/index.html |
| 10:47.07 | KarlKFI | lol. i'm nuts |
| 10:47.29 | KarlKFI | i just wrote an essay on why ret pallies benifit the most from being in the grp with an enhancement shammy |
| 10:47.33 | Shizen | is that the packaging you're using ? |
| 10:47.35 | Shizen | DIP ? |
| 10:47.47 | Shirik | why can I not find this thing... |
| 10:47.48 | Shirik | yes |
| 10:48.11 | Shizen | http://www.atmel.com/dyn/resources/prod_documents/doc7530.pdf <-- not this packaging then ? |
| 10:49.12 | Shirik | The official name that I'm reading off the circuit diagram right now is ATMEGA168P |
| 10:50.07 | Shirik | Shizen, that sheet you showed me says "Atmega 168 Auto" |
| 10:50.13 | Shirik | not sure what the difference is, but I don't think it's right :P |
| 10:50.23 | Shizen | don't think it's right either |
| 10:52.51 | Shirik | This should be right |
| 10:52.51 | Shirik | http://www.atmel.com/dyn/resources/prod_documents/2545S.pdf |
| 10:53.43 | Shirik | PC0 - PC5 (aka ADC0 - ADC5) are the analog pins |
| 10:54.26 | Shizen | ah internal ADC |
| 10:54.41 | Shirik | right |
| 10:54.48 | Shizen | sooo |
| 10:55.26 | Shizen | hmmm |
| 10:56.19 | Shizen | still a few things to ponder, what kind of IR sensor are you using ? is it one that uses its own VCC to produce variable voltage on IR detection ? or does it depends on... uh... circuit design ? |
| 10:56.25 | Shizen | hmmm how do I say this... |
| 10:56.47 | Shirik | The sensor has 3 pins, one to ground, one to Vcc, one out signal |
| 10:57.06 | Shizen | ookay, so vanilla sensor eh... |
| 10:57.09 | Shizen | hrmmm |
| 10:57.18 | Shizen | have you test-bed the sensors ? |
| 10:57.20 | Shirik | The grounds between the various devices are connected together, naturally |
| 10:57.33 | Shirik | the sensors work fine according to the scope when they're not hooked up all at the same time |
| 10:57.42 | Shirik | when they're all hooked up together, and one goes out of range, they go haywire |
| 10:57.51 | Shizen | internal sensor resistance ? |
| 10:58.00 | Shirik | When only one is hooked up, when it goes out of range, we get 0V |
| 10:58.25 | Shirik | I'm still trying to find what the model number is of those sensors |
| 10:58.54 | Shizen | not really sure about the Atmega but it could be internal crosstalks |
| 10:59.03 | Shizen | since some microcontroller have their ADC inputs pooled |
| 10:59.09 | Shizen | not muxed |
| 10:59.48 | Shizen | and so when all sensors are connected (as opposed to pull down resistors which have certain constant resistance in regard to the input circuitry) |
| 11:00.06 | Shizen | the inner resistance of the sensor caused crosstalking |
| 11:00.16 | Shizen | anyway that's my early diagnosis >_> |
| 11:01.37 | Shizen | oh... |
| 11:02.02 | Shizen | Port C is a 7-bit bi-directional I/O port with internal pull-up resistors (selected for each bit). The |
| 11:02.04 | Shizen | PC5..0 output buffers have symmetrical drive characteristics with both high sink and source |
| 11:02.04 | Shizen | capability. As inputs, Port C pins that are externally pulled low will source current if the pull-up |
| 11:02.04 | Shizen | resistors are activated. |
| 11:02.21 | Shizen | oops... sorry for the spam paste... thought it'd be a single line copy >_> |
| 11:03.33 | Thrae | Shirik: DON'T CUT THE BLUE WIRE, FOR GOD SAKES DON'T CUT THE BLUE WIR-- |
| 11:03.45 | Shizen | *boom* |
| 11:04.14 | Thrae | Shizen: I disapprove of your nick because it auto-completed before Shirik. |
| 11:04.20 | Shizen | ha |
| 11:04.27 | Shizen | errr... actually... |
| 11:04.29 | Shizen | why does it ? |
| 11:04.35 | Shirik | Your client is stupid Thrae |
| 11:04.38 | Shizen | my autocomplete arranges alphabetically |
| 11:04.43 | Shizen | Shirik goes before Shizen |
| 11:04.52 | Shirik | probably whomever spoke last |
| 11:04.53 | Thrae | You may wonder why my client does that, that's because irssi is smart, not stupid as Shirik implies. It factors in *who last spoke*. |
| 11:05.01 | Shizen | well |
| 11:05.05 | Shirik | I didn't imply anything |
| 11:05.06 | Shizen | you have to work harder then ! |
| 11:05.08 | Shirik | I outright said it |
| 11:05.13 | Shizen | rofl |
| 11:05.28 | Thrae | Shirik: I typed that before you said anything. |
| 11:05.30 | Shizen | your client is being too smart for your own good then |
| 11:05.33 | Shirik | ok Shizen I'm still trying to decipher that paragraph |
| 11:05.41 | Shirik | I don't see port C's relation to the AD pins |
| 11:05.45 | Shizen | err |
| 11:05.53 | Shizen | PortC == PC0 -- PC5 |
| 11:05.56 | Shirik | oh |
| 11:05.57 | Shirik | lol |
| 11:06.18 | Shizen | ADC inputs fitted in with internal pull-ups resistor |
| 11:06.34 | Shizen | probably this is to satisfy the ADC pool condition |
| 11:06.52 | Shizen | soooo it's a +VCC for logic 0 |
| 11:06.57 | Shizen | or so, I think.... |
| 11:07.10 | Shirik | ummmm |
| 11:07.16 | Shirik | yes that's correct |
| 11:07.23 | Shirik | 0V provides the highest value |
| 11:09.36 | Shirik | found the datasheet on the IR sensor |
| 11:10.02 | Shirik | *(@#*$%#(@% |
| 11:10.27 | Shirik | I spent an hour a few days ago messing around with it trying to stabilize values (not related to this problem) because it fluctuates a little bit |
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| 11:11.00 | Shirik | oh wait, nm, that's referring to the Vcc line |
| 11:11.01 | Shirik | wierd |
| 11:11.22 | Shirik | Anyway http://document.sharpsma.com/files/GP2Y0A02YK_SS_final.pdf |
| 11:11.44 | Shizen | hrmmmm |
| 11:11.49 | Shizen | your inputs are analogous, aren't they ? |
| 11:12.26 | Shizen | In the TQFP and QFN/MLF package, ADC7:6 serve as analog inputs to the A/D converter. <-- gg ? |
| 11:12.52 | Shizen | o.O |
| 11:14.00 | Shizen | you work for Sharp, Shirik ? |
| 11:14.01 | Shirik | mmm no, why? |
| 11:14.01 | Shizen | oh... no reason..... |
| 11:14.01 | Shirik | I don't think I'd have this problem as much if I worked for them lol |
| 11:14.01 | Shirik | http://www.ladyada.net/images/boarduino/boarduinosch.png |
| 11:14.01 | Shirik | We're definitely using PC0-5 |
| 11:14.48 | Shizen | well if you see the block diagram |
| 11:15.03 | Shizen | PC0-5 is parallel bus'd through to the ADC |
| 11:15.35 | Shirik | think splitting them up a bit would resolve the problem at all? |
| 11:15.51 | Shirik | Instead of using PC0/1/2, use PC0/2/4 and pull down 1,3, and 5? |
| 11:15.52 | Shizen | still wondering how the ADC is pooled |
| 11:15.58 | Shizen | errr |
| 11:15.59 | Shirik | Kinda a hack though |
| 11:16.07 | Shizen | no, not really a hack |
| 11:17.27 | Shizen | but you could try using a voltage divider block in each input to present enough circuitry to avoid the inputs being pulled extremely low |
| 11:17.36 | Shirik | I should point out that we do have a cap on the sensor too, 0.1uF, parallel from signal to ground, to stabilize the signal. But we see this problem whether or not it's connected (this was to resolve something else, not this) |
| 11:18.12 | Shizen | errr |
| 11:18.21 | Shizen | don't see how that would resolve low-pull voltage problem |
| 11:18.34 | Shizen | since when the capacitor decays fully, it will still be a low-pull |
| 11:18.49 | Shizen | and here I'm wondering it it's really the low-pull that's causing the problem |
| 11:18.59 | Shizen | pez : depends on what kind of project |
| 11:19.22 | |pez| | Shizen: lots of different kinds of projects really... |
| 11:19.38 | Shizen | you a multitasker like me ? |
| 11:20.02 | |pez| | I do lots of stuff at the same time yes. |
| 11:20.09 | |pez| | But the thing is, I'm horrible at organizing things. |
| 11:20.13 | |pez| | so things end up in a mess. |
| 11:20.43 | Shirik | Shizen: Like I said |
| 11:20.43 | |pez| | example questions popping up in my mind ".. now.. where'd I put that project exactly..." |
| 11:20.46 | Shirik | That was not to resolve this problem |
| 11:20.56 | Shirik | This was just to stabilize the level of the signal |
| 11:21.07 | Shirik | Completely unrelated destabilization |
| 11:21.12 | Shirik | minor fluctuations due to error, etc. |
| 11:21.19 | Shirik | Not this crap that's like +/-1V |
| 11:21.44 | |pez| | I guess I should just be better at organizing my projects. |
| 11:22.00 | |pez| | and have one central directory for all my projects, independant of type. |
| 11:22.03 | Shizen | pez : you could try SVN/CVS |
| 11:23.09 | |pez| | that thing that automagically upload things to online places, can it not? :o and also keep old versions of files... |
| 11:23.16 | |pez| | I've never really read much about it. |
| 11:23.19 | Shizen | yes that |
| 11:23.29 | Shirik | why does this data sheet not have resistance data on it! |
| 11:23.30 | Shirik | grr |
| 11:23.39 | Shizen | it's mostly for team-type programming project |
| 11:23.52 | Shizen | Shirik : it's internal 'automagically activated' resistance |
| 11:23.59 | |pez| | so, SVN or CVS, what's the difference? I might try one of them, since I have a linode that just does not do much these days. |
| 11:24.00 | Shizen | we're not supposed to 'know' it |
| 11:24.03 | Shirik | >< |
| 11:24.11 | Shizen | pez : honestly I haven't a clue |
| 11:24.16 | Shizen | but I think I use SVN more |
| 11:24.17 | Shirik | CVS sucks |
| 11:24.19 | Shirik | SVN sucks less |
| 11:24.23 | Shizen | rofl |
| 11:24.30 | |pez| | Shirik: and is there anything that doesn't suck? :P |
| 11:24.38 | Shirik | According to Linus Torvalds, git |
| 11:24.42 | Shirik | I'm not yet convinced and I use SVN |
| 11:24.49 | Shizen | git ? |
| 11:24.54 | Shirik | git |
| 11:24.55 | nevcairiel | thats why everyone uses git now, because linus said tho |
| 11:24.56 | Shizen | now that's a first-time for me... |
| 11:25.00 | nevcairiel | stupid fanbois |
| 11:25.04 | Shizen | never heard of git... |
| 11:25.06 | |pez| | SVN it is then. |
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| 11:25.30 | Shirik | nevcairiel: I think it's the whole "oooh distributed" factor |
| 11:25.38 | Shizen | lol |
| 11:25.40 | Shirik | though one could raise the point that mercurial is not getting that kind of attention |
| 11:25.59 | Shizen | wow... Tony Royster is making a mistap ? |
| 11:27.04 | Shizen | anyway, Shirik |
| 11:27.14 | Shizen | you'd have to do a lot of lab-testing to solve that problem |
| 11:27.20 | Shizen | introducing voltage divider |
| 11:27.26 | Shizen | changing the input from voltage to 'current' |
| 11:27.46 | Shizen | introducing an RC ladder, perhaps, though this have the extremely annoying characteristic of frequency resonance... |
| 11:28.22 | Shizen | or you could, all in all, buffer your input |
| 11:28.31 | Shizen | schmid trigger, opamp buffer, etc etc |
| 11:28.35 | Shizen | *schmidt |
| 11:29.26 | Shirik | That is stuff for the EE guys to do, not me >< |
| 11:29.43 | Shirik | I know circuitry, I don't know it THAT well. I know enough to get my low-level stuff to work :P |
| 11:30.15 | Shirik | Though I do already have a voltage divider somewhere else, I'm starting to run out of space for resistors |
| 11:30.23 | Shizen | w-ell |
| 11:30.35 | Shizen | an opamp buffer is easy enough to construct |
| 11:30.43 | Shizen | though space would be something of a dire consequences... |
| 11:30.48 | Shirik | if I knew how :P What exsactly does it do? |
| 11:30.59 | Shizen | buffer your input ? |
| 11:31.10 | Shirik | well /I/ could have told you that |
| 11:31.14 | Shirik | delays it? |
| 11:31.16 | Shizen | you could even introduce a smallish gain |
| 11:31.29 | Shizen | w-ell |
| 11:31.39 | Shirik | like a hardware averaging scheme? |
| 11:31.43 | Shizen | it works actually to supply more current should the circuitry needs it, at the exact same voltage |
| 11:31.52 | Shizen | hence it's called 'buffer' |
| 11:32.08 | Shizen | it keeps the input/output level at the same average 'height' |
| 11:32.13 | Shizen | but provides more power |
| 11:32.16 | Shirik | that shouldn't really be necessary... the current going into the atmega should be in the microamps |
| 11:32.20 | Shizen | again, should the circuit needs it |
| 11:32.36 | Shizen | yes, but here's a thought |
| 11:32.54 | Shizen | turning the buffer into a mixer ciruit, with a smallish 'reference' voltage |
| 11:33.01 | Shizen | that would keep the output from being zeroed out |
| 11:33.13 | Shizen | but at the same time won't fluctuate |
| 11:34.00 | Shizen | or uh... introducing a 'transistor' switch would be a good idea as well |
| 11:34.25 | Shizen | although if the SENSOR itself is fluctuating then nothing could be done about that, but as you say, sensors seems to be in good shape no ? |
| 11:34.33 | Shirik | yes |
| 11:34.59 | Shizen | hmmm |
| 11:35.17 | Shirik | Well it has some very slight variance, that can be taken care of |
| 11:35.21 | Shizen | oh! that's the schematic |
| 11:35.24 | Shirik | 0.1uF cap, worked fine |
| 11:35.58 | Shizen | hmmm |
| 11:36.03 | Shizen | that's made with OrCAD, btw ? |
| 11:36.18 | Shirik | none of this was made by me so I have no idea :P |
| 11:36.24 | Shizen | oh |
| 11:36.32 | Shirik | we use multisim for circuit diagrams |
| 11:36.47 | Shizen | so where's the input ? lol |
| 11:36.50 | Shizen | only shows blank ports |
| 11:36.58 | Shirik | well it's connected to a board |
| 11:37.14 | Shirik | so PC0 would be connected straight to the signal wire of the sensor |
| 11:37.39 | Shirik | the sensor's +5 and GND pins are connected to an external supply due to the fact that they'll trigger the OCP of the board if we tried to draw it straight from there |
| 11:37.43 | Shirik | the board can only handle about 40mA |
| 11:39.20 | Shizen | hmmm |
| 11:39.55 | Shizen | at L=150cm, Vomin 0.25 Votyp 0.4 Vomax 0.55 |
| 11:40.02 | Shizen | you could perhaps boost this a bit... |
| 11:40.23 | Shizen | therefore changing the Vo at short distance as well, but making new calibration |
| 11:41.15 | Shirik | I dislike the fact that I have to be raising these voltages -- I should be able to maintain |
| 11:41.17 | Shirik | um |
| 11:41.21 | Shirik | hm |
| 11:41.48 | Shirik | I just had an interesting thought; I'm going to get some food then run to the school for a second; I'll let you know if I'm crazy or not. |
| 11:41.59 | Shizen | I pray that you are ;P |
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| 12:16.11 | zenzio | okay, watching Shirik and Shizen talk is even more confusing than watching Cidan and Cide |
| 12:16.11 | Shizen | rofl |
| 12:16.11 | Shizen | why hullo thar :D |
| 12:17.15 | Tem | zenzio, at least they are two different colors in my client |
| 12:17.23 | Tem | Cidan and cide are the same color of purple |
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| 12:18.08 | zenzio | they're all greyish white in mine (unless they same my nick, in which case they're yellow) |
| 12:18.29 | Shizen | well |
| 12:18.39 | Shizen | since my own message and others' message are coloured differently |
| 12:18.43 | Shizen | I'm not confused ;P |
| 12:18.51 | Shizen | (would be funny if I'm confused myself, eh?) |
| 12:19.08 | Kaso | "I dont remeber saying that...." |
| 12:19.09 | zenzio | not really |
| 12:19.12 | zenzio | I confuse myself all the time |
| 12:19.27 | Shizen | you're special :o |
| 12:19.39 | zenzio | I am! |
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| 13:02.52 | Legorol | morning |
| 13:03.02 | Legorol | does anyone know the IRC channel for Curse? |
| 13:03.09 | Legorol | i can't find it on their site :/ |
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| 13:04.02 | bleeter | didn't know they had one ... i'm an ignorant fool of anything non-freenode |
| 13:04.14 | bleeter | and even then i'm pretty ignorant |
| 13:04.50 | Legorol | i'm trying to get in touch with them (i prefer IRC) because I have just been alerted to a worrying passage of text in their Terms of Use |
| 13:05.16 | cladhaire | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:05.37 | cladhaire | and with that, I'm off to lunch |
| 13:05.39 | cladhaire | hiya Legorol :P |
| 13:07.03 | Legorol | hi cladhaire |
| 13:08.17 | Xinhuan | cladhaire, any issues with ipopbar? |
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| 14:07.41 | cladhaire | Xinhuan: haven't had a chance to look at it yet |
| 14:07.42 | cladhaire | will now |
| 14:07.55 | Xinhuan | ok |
| 14:08.55 | cladhaire | Xinhuan: why are the text offsets when you click the checkbox different on the three settings on the main "settings" screen. |
| 14:09.18 | cladhaire | the first and last go down and right, the middle, only goes right |
| 14:09.30 | Xinhuan | your dialog box is probably larger than usual |
| 14:09.38 | cladhaire | its the default size. |
| 14:09.55 | cladhaire | I would make the following suggestions: |
| 14:10.01 | Xinhuan | can SS? |
| 14:10.06 | cladhaire | yes, one moment. |
| 14:10.11 | sysrage | sure would be nice if we could get some non-sucktastic healers though |
| 14:10.14 | sysrage | bah MT |
| 14:10.35 | cladhaire | could you add 1.) text entry on the advanced tab for the row ids, and 2.) A short statement of what the default IDs are (for the 4 extra bars) |
| 14:10.40 | cladhaire | so one doesn't have to go look that up |
| 14:10.54 | Xinhuan | 5 min - doing eagle boss :D |
| 14:11.00 | Xinhuan | but i'm reading |
| 14:11.04 | Xinhuan | since i'm on dual screen |
| 14:11.09 | Xinhuan | and pressing |
| 14:11.14 | Xinhuan | frostbolt |
| 14:11.17 | Xinhuan | every 3 secs is easy |
| 14:11.17 | cladhaire | :P |
| 14:15.17 | Xinhuan | boss down |
| 14:16.01 | Xinhuan | 1) text entries meaning, on top of sliders? |
| 14:16.05 | Xinhuan | ace3 config doesn't like that |
| 14:16.31 | Xinhuan | but doable i guess |
| 14:16.45 | Xinhuan | textboxes are special because they dont' save the value until you hit the OK button or press enter |
| 14:16.53 | Xinhuan | so you can't just type the number and click somewhere else |
| 14:17.59 | Xinhuan | hence i would avoid textboxes as much as possible |
| 14:18.12 | cladhaire | no, i mean like text boxes |
| 14:18.18 | cladhaire | next to the sliders, yeah |
| 14:18.24 | cladhaire | ah that does suck |
| 14:18.30 | Xinhuan | ace3 config doesn't have such an option though |
| 14:18.31 | cladhaire | but if someone uses an odd scale |
| 14:18.36 | cladhaire | they won't be able to select the right button id |
| 14:18.38 | cladhaire | in theory :P |
| 14:18.44 | Xinhuan | they can use mousescroll on it |
| 14:18.47 | Xinhuan | the slider that is |
| 14:18.49 | Xinhuan | to scroll by 1 |
| 14:19.16 | Xinhuan | i'm sure any decent wow player has a mousewheel hehe |
| 14:19.52 | Xinhuan | the textbox issue is also the same in RockConfig |
| 14:20.08 | cladhaire | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:20.22 | cladhaire | thats the issue I was referring to |
| 14:21.42 | ralfWORK | Xinhuan: eagle is 2nd boss right? with the waves of birds on the way up? |
| 14:21.46 | Xinhuan | what do you mean by text-offset? |
| 14:21.48 | Xinhuan | yes ralfWORK |
| 14:22.01 | ralfWORK | hmm. only seen him once and he made me cry |
| 14:22.07 | cladhaire | Xinhuan: look at the way the text label changes when you click the box. |
| 14:22.14 | cladhaire | its the push offset for the fontstring |
| 14:22.39 | [Ammo] | cladhaire: the center number under a slider = textbox |
| 14:22.42 | cladhaire | thats why I linked the video, it should be clearly obvious |
| 14:22.43 | [Ammo] | it's just not clear enough |
| 14:22.47 | [Ammo] | but you can edit the text |
| 14:22.51 | cladhaire | [Ammo]: lol |
| 14:22.54 | cladhaire | so it is |
| 14:22.55 | Wobin | hm |
| 14:23.01 | Wobin | I can't recall what happens on the eagle boss |
| 14:23.11 | [Ammo] | nargiddley was aware of it and was trying to find ways to make it clearer |
| 14:23.17 | Wobin | oh that's the one he tosses someone into the air right? |
| 14:23.19 | Lopeppeppy | You get dive bombed. He electrocutes you a lot. Repeat. |
| 14:23.26 | Xinhuan | yeah that would be a ace3configdialog issue, not an ipopbar issue ;d |
| 14:23.32 | Lopeppeppy | Oh yes, and the air-toss for fun times. |
| 14:23.43 | Wobin | oh we ignored the divebombing birds |
| 14:23.43 | cladhaire | Xinhuan: then I'll bring it up with nargs, thanks. |
| 14:23.52 | [Ammo] | just jira it |
| 14:24.12 | Xinhuan | in any case, i completely removed the ace3 dependency |
| 14:24.16 | cladhaire | no, i'd rather not link the video on a crawl-able website :P |
| 14:24.19 | cladhaire | Xinhuan: i saw that, good choice :P |
| 14:24.31 | cladhaire | Xinhuan: Any reason why you don't allow 4 or 5 bars? |
| 14:24.33 | Xinhuan | so if you don't have ace3 at all, it'll be 100% slash command base |
| 14:24.48 | Xinhuan | well i didn't think that many bars will be needed |
| 14:24.53 | Xinhuan | but its easily extensible i guess |
| 14:24.58 | ralfWORK | Xinhuan: the damage from electrocution was pretty amazing from what I remember |
| 14:25.14 | Xinhuan | hmm 10 min before lynx boss execution |
| 14:25.25 | Xinhuan | 5 more trash packs to clear |
| 14:28.15 | Xinhuan | i don't actually remember the default bar IDs that each form uses hehe |
| 14:28.28 | Xinhuan | i'll have to wowwiki that up |
| 14:28.57 | cladhaire | http://www.wowwiki.com/ActionSlot |
| 14:29.03 | cladhaire | :P |
| 14:31.45 | Xinhuan | 3 min left zz |
| 14:34.37 | Kalroth | Sleepy Xinhuan |
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| 14:37.40 | Xinhuan | hehe |
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| 14:53.05 | ralfWORK | Xinhuan: out of curiosity, how many healers you take to that boss and what is their bonus healing at? |
| 14:53.19 | Xinhuan | 3 healers min, 3 healers max for all za bosses |
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| 14:53.35 | Xinhuan | bonus healing is like.. 2100? |
| 14:59.30 | Lopeppeppy | Hmmm... brb restart. |
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| 15:04.35 | ralfWORK | Xinhuan: interesting |
| 15:05.21 | ralfWORK | Xinhuan: we've pushed through kara with 2 healers |
| 15:05.29 | Xinhuan | kara is easy though |
| 15:05.31 | nevcairiel | kara works with 2 easily |
| 15:05.37 | nevcairiel | ZA needs 2 |
| 15:05.38 | ralfWORK | I've only done za a few times though |
| 15:05.39 | nevcairiel | er |
| 15:05.39 | Xinhuan | the first half of kara is doable with 1 shaman healer |
| 15:05.39 | nevcairiel | 3 |
| 15:05.45 | Xinhuan | yes, just 1 |
| 15:06.01 | nevcairiel | yeah the second half needs 2 tho |
| 15:06.14 | nevcairiel | and we dont want to change group setup during a 2h kara clear =P |
| 15:06.23 | ralfWORK | nevcairiel: exactly |
| 15:06.45 | ralfWORK | I'm surprised that ZA would need 3 healers with ~2100 bonus healing |
| 15:06.57 | nevcairiel | bonus healing isnt really important |
| 15:06.59 | ralfWORK | but I don't really know dick about ZA ;) |
| 15:07.18 | ralfWORK | killed bear boss a few times. seen 2nd boss once. all in PUGs |
| 15:08.03 | ralfWORK | nevcairiel: so 3 healers for the HPS I assume? |
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| 15:17.57 | Xinhuan | because a lot of boss damage is aoe type |
| 15:18.02 | Xinhuan | 2 healers isn't enough |
| 15:18.17 | Xinhuan | esp when you need 2 to keep a tank alive |
| 15:18.24 | ralfWORK | right, gotcha |
| 15:18.34 | ralfWORK | wish we had more than priests! |
| 15:18.38 | [dRaCo] | we did ZA recently with 2 healers... priest, pala, 3*shadows, feral, prot warrior, enhancement shaman, hunter, mage |
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| 15:18.47 | [dRaCo] | oneshotted everything |
| 15:18.49 | ralfWORK | lol we have like 4 holy priests and 1 resto druid |
| 15:18.57 | [dRaCo] | got 3 crates |
| 15:18.58 | Xinhuan | 3xshadow is like having 1full healer though lol |
| 15:18.59 | ralfWORK | Drool: well 3* shadow probably helps |
| 15:19.03 | ralfWORK | yea it is hahahaha |
| 15:19.10 | [dRaCo] | of course it does |
| 15:19.17 | nevcairiel | yeah 3 shadows keep the group alive easily, plus the mana of the healers topped =P |
| 15:19.19 | ralfWORK | saw a post the other day |
| 15:19.24 | [dRaCo] | pretty cool setup, though |
| 15:19.30 | [dRaCo] | one DD more than usual |
| 15:19.48 | ralfWORK | "think 4x shadowpriest and 1x prot pally could win at heroic shattered halls" |
| 15:20.19 | Xinhuan | possibly, but will be rough on the ogre boss |
| 15:20.29 | ralfWORK | lol yep |
| 15:20.32 | nevcairiel | dont think so, the big mob groups put out some dps without any form of CC |
| 15:20.34 | ralfWORK | still, funny to think about |
| 15:22.11 | ralfWORK | well guess I'll consider 3 healers for ZA then |
| 15:22.18 | ralfWORK | esp. as we are fresh outa kara |
| 15:22.41 | [dRaCo] | yeah |
| 15:23.47 | ralfWORK | I'm just thinking about in kara, how gimped DPS was with 3 healers |
| 15:24.04 | [dRaCo] | bring a shaman if you can, chain heal can make the difference there |
| 15:24.18 | ralfWORK | I wish that was an option :( |
| 15:24.33 | ralfWORK | 1 resto druid. 4 priests. |
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| 15:24.39 | [dRaCo] | fun |
| 15:24.40 | ralfWORK | 0 pallys, 0 shaman |
| 15:24.43 | ralfWORK | yea |
| 15:24.51 | Lopeppeppy | Paladins rule. |
| 15:25.03 | [dRaCo] | gotta love salvation |
| 15:25.06 | ralfWORK | I'm including myself in the 4 priests; I could spec holy and do fine |
| 15:26.45 | [dRaCo] | 2 priests, shadow, lock, mage, prot, feral, enh, rogue, tree. now you've just gotta get the other 6 people :P |
| 15:27.47 | ralfWORK | oh trust me, I do love salv |
| 15:28.00 | ralfWORK | esp when I pew pew pew |
| 15:28.00 | Lopeppeppy | It's one of my most requested buffs. I hate salvation. |
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| 15:28.10 | Cairenn|afk | cute: "Especially in-game gold bought for real money! This is a friendly reminder to our players that buying gold for real money is not only against the EULA, but can put your account at risk for hacking or banning. Buying gold causes game imbalance, damages the economy, and contributes to the amount of spam in chat, tells, and mail. In extreme cases it's even been known to cause increased hair loss, global warming, and the extinctio |
| 15:28.11 | ralfWORK | Lopeppeppy: what class/spec again? |
| 15:28.30 | ralfWORK | Cairenn|afk: lol nice |
| 15:29.11 | art3mis | that's lies! |
| 15:29.18 | Lopeppeppy | ralfWORK, I'm the holy paladin everyone bitches at when I'm drinking after a pull and don't renew their precious Salvation so they can pull again. Scrod that, I'm drinking. I don't rebuff until I'm ready to heal their pull. |
| 15:29.24 | art3mis | it stimulates the economy with a new influx of monies! |
| 15:29.41 | ralfWORK | Lopeppeppy: oic |
| 15:30.01 | art3mis | Galactic Conquest is Here! \o/ |
| 15:30.09 | ralfWORK | Lopeppeppy: what I do hate is when healers ask for Salv over Wisdom |
| 15:30.19 | Lopeppeppy | I do the salvation all the time for my raid group, so I can control a bit more carefully when they will pull versus the level of healer mana. I'm mean and manipulative. |
| 15:30.29 | art3mis | what I hate is paladins giving me salv and NOT wisdom |
| 15:30.43 | Cidan | GOOD MORNING EVERYONE |
| 15:30.46 | Cidan | I LOVE YOU ALL |
| 15:30.51 | art3mis | yeah that's for the threat reduction but really as long asyou guys don't suck my shadowy goodness understands threat thanks |
| 15:30.53 | Cidan | AND BY LOVE I MEAN NOT REALLY, WOO |
| 15:31.06 | art3mis | you not really us all? |
| 15:31.10 | ralfWORK | art3mis: I'll take salv over wisdom as shadow |
| 15:31.12 | Cidan | not really love you |
| 15:31.12 | art3mis | that doesn't make any sense |
| 15:31.16 | Cidan | god damn it |
| 15:31.17 | Cidan | D: |
| 15:31.19 | art3mis | has the world gone topsy turvy!??! |
| 15:31.24 | Lopeppeppy | ralfWORK -- if they need salvation, someone else in the raid needs to work harder to protect their healers. Until that happens, they can have salvation if they need it. art3mis, our buffs are requested by class leaders, so anyone who has issues has to argue with their class officer, not me. :) |
| 15:31.41 | Lopeppeppy | Good morning, Cidan. Nice to hear you so... vocal. |
| 15:31.53 | ralfWORK | Lopeppeppy: yes, if a healer is aggroing off the tank, the tank needs to be booted |
| 15:32.17 | Lopeppeppy | Not booted... figured out and fixed. Booting just breaks a tank, train them instead. |
| 15:32.18 | sysrage | even if it's a crit heal right at the beginning of the pull? |
| 15:32.39 | art3mis | http://www.bbspot.com/News/2008/01/geek-certificates.html <-- speaking of raids |
| 15:32.39 | ralfWORK | crit heals don't have anymore inate threat |
| 15:32.45 | zenzelezz | now now sysrage, it's not like there's ever more than one mob in a pull in BC |
| 15:33.02 | zenzelezz | and everyone knows all tanks have huge 3-second CD AoE taunts |
| 15:33.19 | Cidan | AoE |
| 15:33.22 | Cidan | Age of Empires |
| 15:33.25 | Cidan | man that game rocked. |
| 15:33.33 | sysrage | ralf: honest? i'm not a healer, just every once in awhile i see one of our good healers have a huge crit heal and get like insta aggro |
| 15:33.59 | ralfWORK | sysrage: over healing causes no aggro; crit heals cause no more aggro than any heal of that size |
| 15:34.10 | Lopeppeppy | sysrage... timing is everything. It happens once in a while, but most healers know not to lead off with huge heals before the tank gets to get in a few whacks. |
| 15:34.23 | sysrage | i see |
| 15:34.31 | Josh_Borke | <3 PoM |
| 15:34.37 | ralfWORK | Josh_Borke: amen! |
| 15:34.46 | Lopeppeppy | Thats a favorite lead off, I do understand. :) |
| 15:34.54 | Cidan | ! |
| 15:34.56 | Cidan | http://www.joystiq.com/media/2008/01/evil-kirby-pinata-490.jpg |
| 15:35.00 | Cidan | ! |
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| 15:35.16 | art3mis | http://www.bbspot.com/News/BBloopers/2008/01/3228.php |
| 15:35.16 | ralfWORK | now what I have seen is the tanks attack being dodged on the pull, and then the healer aggros |
| 15:35.51 | ralfWORK | I've also seen the same tank pull nightbane TWICE while his UI had mysteriously "broken" sunder armor |
| 15:35.52 | zenzelezz | it's not just dodging |
| 15:35.54 | zenzelezz | we can also miss |
| 15:36.00 | ralfWORK | zenzelezz: yes. all that. |
| 15:36.19 | Lopeppeppy | Accidents happen. Taunt for the win, bubble and pray, etc etc. |
| 15:36.37 | ralfWORK | they do happen. for some reason they happen more to one person |
| 15:36.47 | ralfWORK | lol@taunting raid bosses! |
| 15:36.48 | zenzelezz | taunt on 8 sec cooldown (for warriors) doesn't help on more than one mob |
| 15:37.37 | Lopeppeppy | There comes a time when the tank is responsible for aggro, and there comes a time when a healer is responsible for their own death. I'm not of the group that thinks every healer death is a tank's fault. Healers have strategies too. |
| 15:37.47 | art3mis | http://www.moderntales.com/comics/dumnestor.php?view=archive&chapter=13964 |
| 15:38.12 | ralfWORK | Lopeppeppy: healer deaths... in my experience are 95% the tanks fault |
| 15:38.34 | art3mis | the other 5% is a result the ROUS's |
| 15:38.46 | sysrage | mage deaths are always somebody elses fault. we're perfect |
| 15:38.48 | ralfWORK | art3mis: I'd have to agree there |
| 15:38.51 | ralfWORK | lol no |
| 15:38.54 | sysrage | :P |
| 15:38.56 | ralfWORK | mage deaths are 100% the mages fault! |
| 15:39.05 | art3mis | mage deaths are actually the shadow priests fault |
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| 15:39.16 | art3mis | we have to even the playnig field somehow ;P |
| 15:39.57 | ralfWORK | it's only the spriest's fault when the mage is losing at DPS and trying to pew pew harder so they can win and end up dying ;) |
| 15:40.18 | sysrage | pallys fault for not giving salv.. healers fault for not healing us through hits that are twice our HP once we pull aggro. blizz's fault for making iceblock not go off fast enough.. |
| 15:40.20 | Lopeppeppy | Whenever a raid is about pew pew damage meters and not about success, lots more people die. |
| 15:40.36 | Cidan | Man |
| 15:40.41 | Cidan | I am not a Halo fan |
| 15:40.42 | Cidan | like at all. |
| 15:40.44 | ralfWORK | Lopeppeppy: true enough |
| 15:40.46 | Cidan | But I'll give it one thing |
| 15:40.52 | art3mis | peppy makes dps meters sound like a rwandan conflict |
| 15:40.59 | Cidan | It has the most fucking bangin' theme song. |
| 15:41.00 | ralfWORK | hahahahaah |
| 15:41.05 | Lopeppeppy | Cidan: it gave me new mountain dew, I love Halo. |
| 15:41.11 | sysrage | it amuses me that the people at the top of damage meters are almost always the ones that don't even care about them |
| 15:41.20 | Lopeppeppy | art3mis... only sometimes. :) |
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| 15:41.45 | Lopeppeppy | Oh noes, Cide! |
| 15:41.53 | Cide | RUN, MORTALS |
| 15:41.55 | ralfWORK | sysrage: honestly, I've found that threat meters are a better gauge to do DPS than actual DPS meters, for that matter |
| 15:42.25 | Kaso | So, kevln, "wow addon who create file with server name and character nick each time i'm connect on one character" im not sure i totally get what you're proposing, can you clarify |
| 15:42.27 | Cidan | Is anyone here going to PAX? |
| 15:43.11 | art3mis | http://www.howmanyfiveyearoldscouldyoutakeinafight.com/ |
| 15:43.31 | Lopeppeppy | Penny Arcade, Cidan? |
| 15:43.45 | Cidan | Lopeppeppy: Indeed. |
| 15:43.57 | Cidan | If Blizzcon doesn't happen, I will be going to PAX |
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| 15:44.45 | Kevln | in fact, i'd like generate php image with dynamic values so i search how can i do to have on text file, each time i'm connected the name of character and server inside. ( sorry for this very bad english i hope u understand . .. ) |
| 15:44.58 | Lopeppeppy | I've pondered it a bit, Cidan. Not sure, I'm more a games-chick than a comix chick. |
| 15:45.11 | Lopeppeppy | art3mis, I can take 33 children down screaming. |
| 15:45.55 | Kaso | you wish to save the charater you're currently playing to file so you can use that to generate a signature image? |
| 15:46.03 | Kaso | that the right sorta idea? |
| 15:46.05 | Kevln | yes ! |
| 15:46.16 | Kaso | Hmm.. |
| 15:46.41 | art3mis | Lopeppeppy: hey me too! |
| 15:47.19 | ralfWORK | To hell with morality, I'd be too busy pile-driving, crane-kicking, and bare-knuckle bashing them all the way back to kintergarten |
| 15:47.27 | Cairenn|afk | only 20 here |
| 15:47.40 | ralfWORK | damn only 20 for me too |
| 15:47.42 | Kevln | in fact, i already make a sign who say "Offline" or "Online" but i don't know how to check server or character name ^^ |
| 15:47.52 | art3mis | "do you ahve experience with swarms, but bees or paying against the zerg." |
| 15:47.59 | art3mis | ^^ I'm horde what do you think |
| 15:48.05 | Kaso | Its not possible with standard methods, though you could use some more complex tricks to get away with it, perhaps |
| 15:48.52 | Cidan | Lopeppeppy: er... |
| 15:49.13 | Cidan | Lopeppeppy: It's a gaming convention... |
| 15:49.25 | Kevln | Its boring, i can check the DATE of last change of file on savedvariable, but the files are upgrade after the /reloadui not on connect :( |
| 15:49.39 | Cidan | Lopeppeppy: Has nothing to do with comics, think of it like what E3 used to be, only even better. |
| 15:51.23 | Kaso | What you could do kevln is upon login, begin combatlogging (eg /combatlog) which then saves to a seperate log file in a semi-real-time manner, then you can parse the latest lines of that for some action like "{youname} casts something" letting you know which charater you're playing, then save some timestamp to savedvariables when you logout so you know when you've gone offline |
| 15:51.30 | Kaso | damnit why did he leave! |
| 15:51.36 | Cidan | rofl |
| 15:51.37 | Cidan | nice |
| 15:53.43 | Lopeppeppy | Cidan, I guess I see the Penny Arcade part and just think the comic. Maybe I'll look into the vendors and so forth, see what's happening. |
| 15:54.37 | Cidan | Lopeppeppy: Neat. I think you'd like it. |
| 15:55.10 | Lopeppeppy | I think right now I'd like to like just about anything. *grin* |
| 15:55.53 | Cidan | Has Blizzard made an official announcement regarding Blizzcon yet? |
| 15:56.05 | Cairenn|afk | nope |
| 15:56.12 | Kaso | I love the last picture on the PAX2008 news post on pa front page, clever marketing that is |
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| 16:04.55 | Cidan | hm |
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| 16:10.54 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Cogwheel. |
| 16:11.02 | cog|work | NO U! |
| 16:11.08 | cog|work | <3 |
| 16:11.12 | Lopeppeppy | No wai. Step off, hoser. |
| 16:11.37 | Cairenn|afk | it's "take off", not "step off" |
| 16:12.46 | Cairenn|afk | unless you aren't quoting the same thing I think you are |
| 16:12.48 | ralfWORK | step off works |
| 16:12.56 | ralfWORK | step off nubstar |
| 16:13.18 | Lopeppeppy | I was going for Strange Brew, but it's been too long. Step off is more downtown than the brothers were, I guess. |
| 16:13.34 | ralfWORK | shove off, sod off |
| 16:13.42 | ralfWORK | no idea what sod off means |
| 16:13.44 | Cairenn|afk | heh, yup, you were quoting Bob & Doug |
| 16:14.22 | Lopeppeppy | Trying to, at least! |
| 16:14.23 | Cairenn|afk | (can't be a good Canuck without knowing the {in}famous Bob & Doug quotes) |
| 16:14.42 | Lopeppeppy | Sod off is the same as step off, shove off, maybe a bit more strong. |
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| 16:16.33 | cog|work | today's /. poll really says something about their readership... |
| 16:17.28 | cog|work | i think it's the only group of males capable of putting doomsday devices ahead of teh ladies |
| 16:18.45 | ralfWORK | Lopeppeppy: sorry, I know what it means; I just don't know what sod has to do with it |
| 16:19.21 | ralfWORK | must be alot of lawn care in england |
| 16:23.21 | Cairenn|afk | Newfie landscaper was talking with a customer about the work they wanted done. Every so often, the Newfie would lean out the window and yell "Green side up!". After this happened a number of times, the customer asked the Newfie what that was all about. The Newfie replied, "That's my crew laying fresh sod on your yard." |
| 16:24.04 | Industrial | Is there something with wowhead.com ? |
| 16:24.31 | Cairenn|afk | I was just able to get there Industrial, smoking fast for me |
| 16:26.41 | zenzelezz | "Wowhead is undergoing a quick maintenance." |
| 16:27.11 | Cairenn|afk | ah, there it is on my screen too now |
| 16:28.29 | ralfWORK | Cairenn|afk: I think there's a joke in there somehere, but I don't think I get it :( |
| 16:29.08 | Cairenn|afk | "They're so dumb, they need reminders to have the grass side up, not the dirt side" |
| 16:29.17 | ralfWORK | ohhhh ok gotcha |
| 16:34.32 | Lopeppeppy | Canadian version of the dumb New Englander jokes. |
| 16:34.44 | Cairenn|afk | same diff, yup |
| 16:35.33 | ralfWORK | I was thinking more like a "your momma so dumb" joke |
| 16:35.57 | ralfWORK | your landscapers are so dumb, they have to be reminded which side is up when laying sod! |
| 16:36.09 | ralfWORK | (doesn't sound funny though) |
| 16:36.19 | Lopeppeppy | It does to me, but I've done some landscaping work. |
| 16:36.27 | ralfWORK | oh ok |
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| 16:39.48 | Lopeppeppy | Mine eyes deceiveth me! Trevion just was helpful! http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4311113971&sid=1 |
| 16:45.38 | cog|work | Lopeppeppy: but only because it links to a bug report |
| 16:45.40 | cog|work | imo |
| 16:45.50 | cog|work | anything to show blizzard as the bad guys :P |
| 16:46.15 | Lopeppeppy | True to form, I do guess... but it's nice to see that bug report, I don't look in that forum often enough. |
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| 17:05.12 | Shirik|Ecole | I just divided by zero... |
| 17:05.16 | Shirik|Ecole | batrick: halp |
| 17:05.25 | Industrial | NO WAI |
| 17:05.47 | Industrial | *the internet crashes* |
| 17:05.56 | Lopeppeppy | *head asplodes* |
| 17:06.04 | nevcairiel | lua> Shirik / 0 |
| 17:06.04 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: [string "return Shirik / 0"]:1: attempt to perform arithmetic on global 'Shirik' (a nil value) |
| 17:06.06 | nevcairiel | boo |
| 17:06.39 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm about to feed it through a simulator to see what happens :P |
| 17:07.37 | Industrial | you simulated the internet? |
| 17:07.39 | Industrial | or your head? |
| 17:07.49 | Lopeppeppy | No, Br'er Shirik, please don't feed me through the simulator, please! |
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| 17:08.31 | Industrial | hax |
| 17:10.37 | Shirik|Ecole | SPICE error: Timestep too small |
| 17:10.40 | Shirik|Ecole | =( |
| 17:11.06 | [dRaCo] | We need moar spice. |
| 17:11.22 | ralfWORK | teh spice must flo |
| 17:11.43 | Lopeppeppy | mmm. |
| 17:12.29 | Shirik|Ecole | ah, so it's like I thought. It's zero! |
| 17:12.50 | Shirik|Ecole | lua> 1/(1/(40+40+80)+(1/0)) |
| 17:12.51 | lua_bot | Shirik|Ecole: 0 |
| 17:12.54 | Shirik|Ecole | What a strange world. |
| 17:13.43 | Lopeppeppy | It's a mad world. |
| 17:13.45 | [dRaCo] | you just broke the universe. |
| 17:13.52 | [dRaCo] | division by zero :/ |
| 17:16.21 | Shirik|Ecole | Division by zero is legal: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/822a36c91cb04b9dd3cfcbaedf37d5d0.jpg |
| 17:17.56 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, the legal/illegal debate, whee! |
| 17:19.05 | Shirik|Ecole | well SPICE says it's legal :P |
| 17:19.21 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr. |
| 17:19.39 | [dRaCo] | gcc says it isn't |
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| 17:22.25 | Shirik|Ecole | well see |
| 17:22.30 | Shirik|Ecole | gcc was made by software engineers |
| 17:22.46 | Shirik|Ecole | If they were computer engineers, they'd know better. |
| 17:22.56 | Shirik|Ecole | Sorry, I take that back. The C designers were like that |
| 17:23.13 | Shirik|Ecole | The gcc designers were only following the crap the C designers said |
| 17:23.26 | [dRaCo] | there's no mathematical definition of division by zero |
| 17:24.24 | Shirik|Ecole | apparently there is in circuitry |
| 17:24.41 | Shirik|Ecole | I would argue that it's perfectly valid to say that 1/(1/0) should be 0 |
| 17:25.13 | Shirik|Ecole | Mostly because (x^m)^n is x^(m*n), right? Well that's (0^(-1))^(-1) |
| 17:25.19 | Shirik|Ecole | which is 0^(-1*-1) which is 0^1 |
| 17:25.23 | Shirik|Ecole | which is 0 |
| 17:26.11 | [dRaCo] | interesting, but not publicly agreed on |
| 17:26.44 | [dRaCo] | and still doesnt define 1/0, btw |
| 17:26.58 | Shirik|Ecole | right |
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| 17:27.39 | Shirik|Ecole | calculus clearly defines that n/0 (n is an element of all real numbers) does not have a solution |
| 17:28.00 | Shirik|Ecole | however it also clearly defines that 1/(1/0) does |
| 17:28.11 | Shirik|Ecole | If you take the limit properly it's plain as day |
| 17:29.56 | Shirik|Ecole | look at the circuit diagram |
| 17:29.59 | [dRaCo] | he had an issue? |
| 17:30.16 | nevcairiel | he has alot of issues |
| 17:30.17 | Shirik|Ecole | trying to find the equivalent resistance, but there is a parallel path with no resistance |
| 17:30.35 | Shirik|Ecole | which leads to 1/(1/R1 + 1/R2) but R2 == 0 |
| 17:31.16 | nevcairiel | lua> 0^-1 |
| 17:31.16 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: inf |
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| 17:31.39 | nevcairiel | lua> 0^-1 * 0 |
| 17:31.39 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: nan |
| 17:31.42 | nevcairiel | duh |
| 17:32.25 | nevcairiel | so, if your spice thing accepts that calculation, is the result right then? |
| 17:32.43 | Shirik|Ecole | should be |
| 17:32.48 | Shirik|Ecole | it's a pretty complex system |
| 17:32.58 | Shirik|Ecole | it doesn't actually take formulas, it takes netlists |
| 17:33.04 | Shirik|Ecole | and figures it out by "stepping" |
| 17:33.13 | [dRaCo] | if you've got a path with no resistance, why having another? |
| 17:33.22 | Shirik|Ecole | because you don't see the entire circuit :) |
| 17:33.51 | Shirik|Ecole | There is more than two nodes that use that square |
| 17:34.03 | [dRaCo] | geez, I know why I like hardware description languages. no screwing around with stuff like that |
| 17:34.36 | Shirik|Ecole | nobody "likes" hardware description languages |
| 17:34.42 | kd3 | ^ |
| 17:35.13 | Shirik|Ecole | but I will agree it is impossible to "misinterpret" something. Something means something quite literally and there is no way around it. |
| 17:35.13 | [dRaCo] | *why I like them better than actual hardware design |
| 17:35.15 | [dRaCo] | fixed |
| 17:35.26 | Shirik|Ecole | Which is important |
| 17:35.46 | *** join/#wowi-lounge malreth (n=malreth@dhcp-45-17.its.utexas.edu) |
| 17:35.57 | malreth | woooooohooooooo!!! |
| 17:36.35 | malreth | http://dslrblog.com/sigma-worlds-first-apo-200-500/ |
| 17:36.36 | nevcairiel | i hope i never have to touch HDL again |
| 17:36.39 | nevcairiel | any form of it |
| 17:36.39 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 17:37.04 | Shirik|Ecole | I know I'll have to mess around with VHDL |
| 17:37.05 | Shirik|Ecole | a lot. |
| 17:37.10 | Shirik|Ecole | Oh well, I've gotten a bit used to it by now |
| 17:37.23 | [dRaCo] | been using verilog for half a year now, gonna do it for at least one more |
| 17:37.37 | Lopeppeppy | Oh dear, malreth. You can spy on me from Tokyo with that. |
| 17:37.46 | [dRaCo] | we've been getting along quite good, the two of us |
| 17:37.54 | malreth | Sigma just announced a 200-500 f/2.8 mega ultra telephoto lens |
| 17:38.06 | nevcairiel | I hope i passed the exam on VHDL and never have to touch it again |
| 17:38.07 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 17:38.16 | malreth | by my calculations, the objective would be about 178mm in diameter |
| 17:38.29 | malreth | the thing weighs a ton |
| 17:38.37 | nevcairiel | it even has a handle on top for easier carrying |
| 17:38.39 | malreth | and it costs as much as a new car |
| 17:39.10 | nevcairiel | and its own battery to power the focus :D |
| 17:39.18 | malreth | yeah... that part floored me |
| 17:39.37 | Shirik|Ecole | grrr, another 0 resistance |
| 17:39.43 | Shirik|Ecole | this is starting to get annoying >.> |
| 17:39.59 | Shirik|Ecole | I feel like that guy from the youtube video |
| 17:40.31 | malreth | also, if you haven't read it today, Sanya has a new post: http://eatingbees.brokentoys.org/2008/02/01/signs-you-are-not-smart-enough-to-moderate-boards/ |
| 17:40.47 | malreth | "You whine about how the content of a particular post wasn’t your idea. This usually happens when the CM doesn’t have any balls besides the ones he keeps in his mouth." |
| 17:41.05 | malreth | i love it now that she doesn't have to hold back |
| 17:41.32 | [dRaCo] | Shirik|Ecole, watch out for snipers: http://www.xkcd.com/356/ |
| 17:42.43 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm still working on that problem |
| 17:42.53 | Shirik|Ecole | that guy's cruel, he changed a classic problem ever so slightly |
| 17:42.57 | Shirik|Ecole | and the integrals went haywire |
| 17:43.48 | Lopeppeppy | Ugh... the freezing rain has started. I hate living in New England. |
| 17:43.56 | Shirik|Ecole | Come down to Florida Lopeppeppy |
| 17:44.27 | Lopeppeppy | You are a stunning example of temptation, Shirik, but I haven't been traded in yet! |
| 17:44.54 | Valaron|Work | WOOOO... COFFEE |
| 17:45.47 | Duman | what the HELL |
| 17:45.48 | Cidan | Lopeppeppy: avoid Florida like the plague. |
| 17:45.51 | Duman | MSFT buying YHOO |
| 17:45.56 | Cidan | No they aren't. |
| 17:45.59 | Cidan | Dear god |
| 17:46.03 | Duman | ok, propsed |
| 17:46.07 | Duman | +o |
| 17:46.09 | Cidan | You are the 12-3980183 person who has said that |
| 17:46.10 | Lopeppeppy | Tug of war, everybody dance. |
| 17:46.15 | Cidan | They've been trying for YEARS now |
| 17:46.17 | Cidan | this isn't news |
| 17:46.20 | Duman | http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=206101782 |
| 17:46.52 | Shirik|Ecole | lua> 12-3980183 |
| 17:46.53 | lua_bot | Shirik|Ecole: -3980171 |
| 17:46.57 | Duman | heh |
| 17:47.10 | Shirik|Ecole | -3980171 people |
| 17:47.18 | Cidan | lua> math.abs(12-3980183); |
| 17:47.18 | lua_bot | Cidan: 3980171, |
| 17:47.22 | Cidan | jerk. |
| 17:47.23 | Lopeppeppy | Meep. I'm not ripe yet, |pez|, let me grow a few more months. Spring is my best season. |
| 17:47.47 | |pez| | Lopeppeppy: hmmmm, ok. |
| 17:47.52 | malreth | |pez|: this one's ripe and single, too boot: http://flickr.com/photos/fizzboy/2234039009/ |
| 17:47.52 | |pez| | I found chocolate instead anyway! |
| 17:48.28 | Lopeppeppy | Chocolate is always better, with fewer strings attached. |
| 17:48.44 | |pez| | oooh, Mastermind! |
| 17:49.02 | Duman | heh |
| 17:49.14 | |pez| | malreth: is that you? >__> or are you just sending out pictures of otherfolks? |
| 17:49.23 | malreth | that's my friend, Thomas |
| 17:49.45 | |pez| | He looks like "harhar, I'm plotting something" type. |
| 17:50.33 | Lopeppeppy | At least, in that lighting. |
| 17:50.53 | |pez| | I will sustain my hunger, until the boyfriend wakes up and decides he wants some food too. :P |
| 17:51.13 | |pez| | I will sustain it with chocolate! |
| 17:53.22 | Duman | speaking of food |
| 17:53.27 | Duman | I think it's brekafast time |
| 17:53.38 | Duman | especially since I can't even type properly yet |
| 17:53.50 | |pez| | Mm, fuud. |
| 17:54.54 | |pez| | I should go do the dishes and start to clean the kitchen. |
| 17:54.59 | |pez| | it's a icky mess of doom. |
| 17:55.40 | Lopeppeppy | I did that while my breakfast was cooking, |pez|. I have to, or I'll never do dishes, just ignore them. |
| 17:56.24 | |pez| | we still have yesterdays pizza (totally made from scratch, quite proud of that) on the livingroom table. |
| 17:56.31 | Shirik|Ecole | Okay gotta run take care |
| 17:56.38 | |pez| | bye Shirik|Ecole |
| 17:56.46 | Lopeppeppy | Well, that's not a good place for breakfast to have been left lying around, |pez|! |
| 17:57.13 | |pez| | there's no room for it in the kitchen! |
| 17:57.40 | Lopeppeppy | If that inspires pizza abuse of that magnitude, it's totally time to clean up the kitchen. |
| 17:58.21 | |pez| | Oh, there was only like a piece left or something. |
| 17:58.28 | |pez| | so not the worst loss. |
| 17:59.24 | |pez| | also, I had chicken wings from breakfast today, which I did manage to put into our way to full fridge. |
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| 18:01.50 | |pez| | But! I will head off to the kitchen, and start cleaning it, so the sickly boyfriend can get a nice surprise when he gets up again. |
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| 18:02.25 | |pez| | whaat? |
| 18:02.49 | Lopeppeppy | I have a gutter mind sometimes, |pez|. Re-read your sentence with that as a framework, and you get.... *smirk* |
| 18:03.28 | |pez| | Oh, I had some ideas on how to wake him up pleasently. ;P |
| 18:03.31 | End | ~unproductivity |
| 18:03.31 | purl | yay! |
| 18:03.40 | Lopeppeppy | Three cheers for that, End. |
| 18:04.09 | malreth | i like it when i get woken up pleasantly |
| 18:04.23 | Lopeppeppy | I do too. Humans are just sorta like that. |
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| 18:15.58 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Lunessa. |
| 18:16.06 | Lunessa | Hiya |
| 18:17.22 | Lunessa | Sorry... just got to the office. |
| 18:18.31 | Lopeppeppy | TGIF, no matter what the rest of the world thinks! |
| 18:19.23 | kd3 | whee, about freaking time |
| 18:19.28 | kd3 | no more DR on HKs |
| 18:19.37 | Lopeppeppy | Interesting. |
| 18:19.39 | malreth | no kidding? |
| 18:19.58 | kd3 | http://www.wowblues.com/us/diminishing-returns-removed-from-honor-in-24-4311144220.html |
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| 18:21.09 | malreth | i like the instantaneous reward aspect to that |
| 18:21.43 | Lopeppeppy | Instant gratification is indeed... instantly gratifying. :) |
| 18:21.46 | malreth | but it's going to turn AV into pure HK farming for battlegroups where one side constantly loses |
| 18:22.06 | Lopeppeppy | Only for a set amount of time, with the reinforcement scenario. |
| 18:22.11 | malreth | doesn't matter |
| 18:22.49 | malreth | i predict the new alliance strat for AV on my BG will be to go pure defense, hold the horde at SPGY valley bottleneck |
| 18:22.56 | malreth | farm them until we lose |
| 18:23.10 | malreth | then jump back in and do it again |
| 18:24.28 | Lukian | go farm WSG or AB, horde seem to be good at that ^_^ |
| 18:24.51 | malreth | i'm alliance |
| 18:25.03 | Lukian | haha, even better |
| 18:25.36 | Thunder_Child | heh "and if a player dies 50 times or more during a battleground they won’t be worth any honor for the remainder of that battle." |
| 18:25.58 | malreth | hmm... tagging my photos with "girl" and "glasses" increases the hits i get on flickr... :D |
| 18:26.01 | Thunder_Child | even as a twig of a mage i dont think i have died that much |
| 18:26.35 | Lunessa | malreth: OMG - tag my image only with glasses you freak. |
| 18:26.40 | Lopeppeppy | malreth, why does that surprise you? |
| 18:27.37 | malreth | Lunessa: people don't search for your picture... they just link to it directly |
| 18:27.49 | Lunessa | Thank the maker. |
| 18:28.11 | Duman | kd3: awesome |
| 18:28.15 | malreth | there is one google.com search for "lunessa" oddly enough that landed on that pic |
| 18:28.51 | Lunessa | Really? Interesting - google must not cache any of armory |
| 18:29.15 | Duman | it does for me |
| 18:29.24 | Duman | google for "duman warcraft" and it's the first hit |
| 18:29.33 | Thunder_Child | "Make sure you start with a flowchart, that you test thoroughly before writing any code." Haphazard ftw |
| 18:29.50 | End | it caches for me too |
| 18:30.06 | Lunessa | Yeah, about 6 results in. |
| 18:31.59 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh, I found the BrickBot post. http://eatabrick.org/ |
| 18:37.26 | malreth | Lopeppeppy: that's hilarious |
| 18:38.18 | Lopeppeppy | And I totally vividly remember that bot. |
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| 18:38.25 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+v Guillotine] by ChanServ |
| 18:38.31 | Lunessa | So, he's proud of being a jerk. It's funny and sad. |
| 18:38.42 | Guillotine | are we talking about TC? |
| 18:38.48 | malreth | lol |
| 18:38.52 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Guillotine |
| 18:38.53 | purl | flings poo at Guillotine |
| 18:39.14 | Guillotine | :P |
| 18:39.34 | wereHamster | Lopeppeppy, the site you linked to, the post on jul. 6 :) |
| 18:39.56 | malreth | i approve of that kind of subversion. it didn't attempt to harm the channel permanently, nor did it attempt to usurp control. harmless and fun. |
| 18:40.08 | Lopeppeppy | that's the one I was pointing at, wereHamster. |
| 18:41.04 | malreth | but then i like to tease christian bible-thumpers on campus by drawing chalk circles and shapes around them on the sidewalk and chanting stuff from cthulhu |
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| 18:42.21 | Industrial | I can do this: /cast Raptor Strike /cast Wing Clip /stopcasting |
| 18:43.11 | Industrial | but can I do this: /cast Raptor Strike /cast Mongoose Bite /stopmacro /cast Wing Clip /stopcasting |
| 18:43.15 | Industrial | ? |
| 18:43.32 | malreth | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:43.34 | Cide | ... what? |
| 18:43.37 | Cide | yeah... |
| 18:43.42 | malreth | wing clip will never cast |
| 18:43.46 | Industrial | hmm |
| 18:43.47 | malreth | never |
| 18:43.48 | malreth | ever |
| 18:43.50 | malreth | never never |
| 18:44.00 | Cide | unless /stopmacro is removed |
| 18:44.15 | Industrial | mongoose bite is reactional - after a dodge |
| 18:44.33 | Industrial | so it will error if I cant cast it and not cast wong clip right? |
| 18:44.36 | Industrial | lets try! |
| 18:44.44 | malreth | doesn't matter... wing clip will never be attempted |
| 18:44.52 | malreth | it'll hit the /stopmacro and end right there |
| 18:45.13 | ralfWORK | stupid question |
| 18:45.16 | malreth | might as well have just "/cast Raptor Strike /cast Mongoose Bite |
| 18:45.18 | malreth | " |
| 18:45.27 | malreth | but i'm no hunter |
| 18:45.27 | ralfWORK | why would anyone ever use /stopmacro? |
| 18:45.34 | malreth | ralfWORK: it has uses |
| 18:45.40 | Cide | it can stop a macro conditionally |
| 18:45.49 | ralfWORK | Cide: ahh I see |
| 18:45.50 | Cide | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:45.58 | ralfWORK | ok I gotcha |
| 18:46.09 | malreth | i use it in my summon elemental macro to conditionally start a timer bar in quartz if my pet doesn't exist |
| 18:46.24 | malreth | i think i also use it in my dismount macro |
| 18:46.29 | ralfWORK | malreth: ohhh... that sounds kinda cool |
| 18:46.39 | malreth | yeah, it works great |
| 18:47.03 | Cide | malreth: what do you need /stopmacro for? :P |
| 18:47.03 | kd3 | bunch of changes getting added to http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_2.4.0 with references to blue posts |
| 18:47.07 | malreth | it starts summoning the pet and then starts the 45 sec timer because according to the client, the pet doesn't exist yet |
| 18:47.11 | kd3 | locks can summon into instances now, for example |
| 18:47.14 | Cide | could just do /script if not UnitExists("pet") then ... end |
| 18:47.31 | malreth | the same summon button also casts Freeze so i'm pressing it often |
| 18:47.33 | ralfWORK | kd3: ya I heard about that... that should be cool |
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| 18:47.53 | malreth | Cide: /quartzt 45 uses fewer characters |
| 18:48.05 | Cide | ah, I didn't know it was a slash cmd |
| 18:48.06 | malreth | and i'm brushing the limit in that macro |
| 18:48.08 | Lopeppeppy | Locks... summoning... into instances..... |
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| 18:48.27 | malreth | oh, that'll be a nice change |
| 18:48.37 | Cide | the best part was |
| 18:48.46 | Lopeppeppy | Wonder if that includes the ones up in Netherstorm. |
| 18:48.49 | malreth | we swap people in and out nearly every single boss in Kara based on loot needs |
| 18:49.01 | ralfWORK | Lopeppeppy: hmm... good question |
| 18:49.02 | Cide | Lopeppeppy: I'm sure. you already can do that |
| 18:49.07 | malreth | that'll really speed things up |
| 18:49.11 | ralfWORK | malreth: exactly |
| 18:49.14 | malreth | you can't summon in Netherstorm |
| 18:49.15 | Lopeppeppy | Locks can't summon in Netherstorm, Cide. |
| 18:49.23 | Cide | really? how stupid |
| 18:49.25 | Guillotine | what? Since when? |
| 18:49.30 | ralfWORK | to stop hax |
| 18:49.31 | malreth | since ever |
| 18:49.32 | Cide | I thought I had been summoned to netherstorm |
| 18:49.39 | malreth | maybe in beta |
| 18:49.41 | kd3 | using the instance summoning stone |
| 18:49.42 | Lopeppeppy | By summoning stone, perhaps. |
| 18:49.48 | ralfWORK | and force people to buy flying mounts |
| 18:49.49 | Cide | no, like, up to the instances |
| 18:50.02 | malreth | Cide hax... he admits it! |
| 18:50.09 | ralfWORK | omg haxer |
| 18:50.13 | Lopeppeppy | Nope, not currently possible. The freebase nether prohibits warlocks from using their summons. |
| 18:50.36 | Cide | I think it has been possible previously |
| 18:50.39 | Cide | but I may be dreaming |
| 18:50.53 | ralfWORK | I've never known anyone to try |
| 18:51.01 | ralfWORK | it's all rumor to me |
| 18:51.05 | kd3 | if it was possible, it was during beta. it certainly hasn't been possible since release |
| 18:51.09 | ralfWORK | could be an urban legend |
| 18:51.48 | Lopeppeppy | Like the albino crocodiles in the Hudson. |
| 18:52.02 | ralfWORK | uhm... sure... just like that? |
| 18:52.29 | malreth | my fiancee's hunter uses the Sewer Beast as her pet |
| 18:52.41 | ralfWORK | heh |
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| 18:52.49 | malreth | it's slow and inefficient... but it's so much a part of her character, she cannot bear to release him |
| 18:52.50 | Lopeppeppy | I hate how crocodiles kinda roar in WoW. |
| 18:53.09 | malreth | everyone in the guild loves the little guy |
| 18:53.16 | Guillotine | I'm looking for a new wireless mouse, preferably with he extra buttons on the sides. Anybody have any suggestions? |
| 18:53.23 | ralfWORK | you know, the loading tips say silver portraits mean better than normal loot |
| 18:53.31 | malreth | to the point that new guild probies were asking why Magg (the pet's name) never logs in and why they never see him |
| 18:53.33 | ralfWORK | I killed that sewer beast |
| 18:53.44 | ralfWORK | and the damn thing dropped some stupid grey crap |
| 18:54.10 | malreth | he gets talked about so much that people thought he was a real player |
| 18:54.15 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 18:54.23 | malreth | Guillotine: my advice is avoid wireless mice |
| 18:54.25 | kd3 | [13:53:24] <kd3> haste change! |
| 18:54.25 | kd3 | [13:53:31] <kd3> http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4311224006&sid=1 |
| 18:54.37 | malreth | they are very prone to Murphy's Law |
| 18:54.49 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, |Jelly|. |
| 18:55.05 | Guillotine | malreth: heh. I just dropped my current one and its acting schitzo :( |
| 18:55.07 | |Jelly| | Hey Peppy! :) |
| 18:55.10 | Saint-N | nah wireless mice are fine |
| 18:55.28 | Saint-N | I have issues with wireless keyboards and the refresh rate while key running most of the time though |
| 18:55.45 | malreth | kd3: OH SNAP! |
| 18:55.55 | malreth | haste reduces the GCD in 2.4 |
| 18:56.12 | malreth | well... for spells |
| 18:56.17 | malreth | but still... wow |
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| 18:56.29 | Lopeppeppy | Some very interesting 2.4 changes, all told. |
| 18:57.10 | kd3 | score's being kept at http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_2.4.0 pretty sure I've got all the info that's been released today so far |
| 18:57.34 | Saint-N | In 2.4, Spell Haste will reduce the global cool down on spells, down to a minimum of 1 second. It won't apply to melee and ranged abilities though however. |
| 18:57.36 | Cide | nope |
| 18:57.37 | Saint-N | my goodness |
| 18:57.42 | Cide | kd3: you missed the manna biscuits |
| 18:57.43 | Saint-N | I wish I could get that |
| 18:57.47 | kd3 | link? |
| 18:57.59 | kd3 | nvm |
| 18:58.12 | Saint-N | it would be like that quick cast deviate delight effect |
| 18:58.19 | ralfWORK | wow that's kinda cool |
| 18:58.27 | ralfWORK | wish it hasted up all cooldowns :P |
| 18:58.40 | ralfWORK | then you could actually have *gasp* the same rotation! |
| 18:59.30 | kd3 | whee, they're now unique (80) |
| 18:59.52 | malreth | i'm trying to think of how the haste changes would affect me as a deep frost spec mage |
| 18:59.58 | ralfWORK | kd3: biscuits? hmm.. ok |
| 19:00.20 | malreth | i could start frostbolting faster after a frost nova/ice lance combo |
| 19:01.03 | Saint-N | manna biscuits had a limit? |
| 19:01.14 | malreth | 50 charges to the table |
| 19:01.19 | Saint-N | oh THOSE ones |
| 19:01.25 | ralfWORK | sodly I don't think that haste change will make haste viable for shadowpriests |
| 19:01.27 | Lopeppeppy | That's good to know, kd3. Although it hampers early raiders from gathering biscotti for those of us stuck outside summoning. |
| 19:01.30 | Saint-N | I was thinking the AD ones |
| 19:01.31 | malreth | so nothing would stop someone from stealing them all at the start of a raid/bg |
| 19:01.53 | ralfWORK | yea, that makes sense |
| 19:02.01 | kd3 | whee fark... |
| 19:02.01 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:02.01 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:02.01 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:02.01 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:02.02 | ralfWORK | but I was about to say what Lopeppeppy said :P |
| 19:02.05 | kd3 | ack, sorry |
| 19:02.08 | Saint-N | ralfWORK: imagine how dps godly we'd be with 1second casts on mb ;) |
| 19:02.11 | malreth | ooh... the haste changes mean i can buff faster.. yeah... :\ |
| 19:02.36 | ralfWORK | Saint-N: lol yea but uhm... |
| 19:02.45 | Saint-N | right now we're 2per3 seconds ;P |
| 19:02.45 | ralfWORK | can it just scale down the CD on it too? :P |
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| 19:02.54 | Saint-N | 3for3 would rule |
| 19:03.00 | malreth | "Sorry, the spell icon will remain the same and not look any more new or unique." lawlz |
| 19:03.02 | Saint-N | and ever6 is a sw:d |
| 19:03.27 | Saint-N | it would marginally be better |
| 19:04.08 | Saint-N | mf/mf/mf/mb/swd/mf/mf/mf/mb/mf/mf/mf/mb/swd right now is the typical non-vt spec'd priest fight |
| 19:04.18 | Saint-N | assuming dots come naturally |
| 19:04.33 | malreth | now... arcane spec mages... they already had insane burst DPS before... now they can go OOM faster with the haste changes |
| 19:04.44 | ralfWORK | malreth: exactly! |
| 19:04.49 | Saint-N | but a mb/swd/mb/mb/mb/mb/mb/mb/swd would be so much sexier |
| 19:05.04 | ralfWORK | Saint-N: thing I hate about haste is it screws up rotation |
| 19:05.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Whoo |
| 19:05.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Lot of 2.4 info! |
| 19:05.29 | Saint-N | how so? |
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| 19:05.41 | ralfWORK | but that's probably more for temporary haste increase |
| 19:06.07 | ScytheBlade1 | No DR on honor, no honor calculations, haste affects GCD, double tier tokens on raid bosses |
| 19:06.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Heroic gems are no longer unique equipped! |
| 19:06.29 | Saint-N | gasp |
| 19:06.42 | ralfWORK | Saint-N: mm, so say I get a haste bonus. now I get a .5s gap in my rotation |
| 19:06.45 | ralfWORK | because crap is on cooldown |
| 19:06.53 | ralfWORK | and say it's not worth it to cast another MF |
| 19:07.08 | |pez| | aww! http://mfrost.typepad.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2008/01/30/ferret_bites.jpg |
| 19:07.09 | Lopeppeppy | I like that heroic gem change, a lot alot alot. |
| 19:07.09 | ralfWORK | ScytheBlade1: no... longer... unique equipped?! |
| 19:07.15 | ralfWORK | OMG |
| 19:07.17 | ScytheBlade1 | ralfWORK: correct! |
| 19:07.23 | ralfWORK | I finally have a reason to run heroics again! |
| 19:07.26 | Lukian | ScytheBlade1, I believe it's 3 tokens (they usually drop 2) |
| 19:07.26 | Cide | Lopeppeppy: I hate it |
| 19:07.32 | Lopeppeppy | I have a bunch of them in my bank that I can finally use. |
| 19:07.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Lukian: yeah, +1 token on the current |
| 19:07.42 | ralfWORK | ScytheBlade1: oh I hate you |
| 19:07.55 | ralfWORK | so wait... T4 tokens will be doubled too? |
| 19:08.03 | Cide | I don't like it because every time I get a new piece of gear, I have to run heroics now |
| 19:08.13 | ralfWORK | have to? |
| 19:08.15 | ralfWORK | no you don't |
| 19:08.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Not doubled |
| 19:08.19 | ralfWORK | you can be sub par |
| 19:08.23 | ScytheBlade1 | They drop 2, they will now drop 3 |
| 19:08.25 | Cide | ya, but I don't want to be sub par |
| 19:08.35 | ralfWORK | Cide: oh I see ;) |
| 19:08.45 | ralfWORK | ScytheBlade1: sorry 1x2 = doubled lol |
| 19:08.49 | Lopeppeppy | I see his point though, I was saving my "extra" heroic gems for my new gear. Now I have no excuse not to use them all up right away, and then go farm for more when I get my new gear. |
| 19:08.53 | ralfWORK | ScytheBlade1: but is it aplicable to T4/kara stuff? |
| 19:09.07 | ralfWORK | hey, I'd rather farm heroics |
| 19:09.16 | ralfWORK | than spend 75 damn gold on the gem on the AH :P |
| 19:09.22 | ralfWORK | for the +9 damage gem |
| 19:09.24 | Cide | well that's you :P I have way too much money |
| 19:09.28 | Cide | and I'll have even more when 2.4 hits |
| 19:09.39 | ralfWORK | Cide: ok send some to me then ;) |
| 19:09.41 | Lopeppeppy | I'd rather do neither, my game time is uber limited right now. |
| 19:09.52 | Cide | no thanks :P just go buy some void crystals |
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| 19:09.58 | Cide | wait for 2.4, profit |
| 19:10.11 | ralfWORK | Cide: how are you going to make money with 2.4? |
| 19:10.19 | Cide | 1x void crystal = 2 LPS |
| 19:10.20 | ralfWORK | can we turn Voids into Prismatics? :P |
| 19:10.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Slouken should just mail Beladona the UI source for 2.4 so he can stick it up on WDN now :P |
| 19:10.23 | ralfWORK | NO WAI |
| 19:10.28 | Cide | right now, 1 void crystal < 1 LPS |
| 19:10.34 | Cide | by ~10g on my server |
| 19:10.44 | ralfWORK | yea voids are like 5g heh |
| 19:10.58 | ralfWORK | Cide: so there will be a formula to turn voids into prismatics? |
| 19:11.01 | Cide | yes |
| 19:11.08 | ralfWORK | know where we'll have to get it? |
| 19:11.13 | Cide | 1 void crystal will sell for like 50g, and on my server they cost ~15g |
| 19:11.22 | Cide | no idea, it's enchanting only |
| 19:11.27 | Cide | with a 24h cd |
| 19:11.28 | ralfWORK | <-- enchanter |
| 19:11.32 | ralfWORK | ohhhhhh |
| 19:11.42 | malreth | hmm... |
| 19:11.57 | ralfWORK | I am exalted with pretty much everything in BC... |
| 19:12.05 | ralfWORK | hopefully I'll be all set |
| 19:12.37 | Lopeppeppy | When I get more game time, I'm working on my Aldor faction. What a pita. |
| 19:12.49 | ralfWORK | I'm a 1 toon man |
| 19:12.59 | ralfWORK | think I need to do Sporegar and Kurenai |
| 19:13.10 | ralfWORK | all the others I should be exalted with |
| 19:13.58 | Cide | I was exalted with sporeggar before I hit 70 |
| 19:14.00 | Lopeppeppy | My rogue is working on fuzzy faction with the furbolgs. |
| 19:14.01 | Cide | because I'm awesome |
| 19:14.24 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 19:14.29 | ralfWORK | most useless faction evar |
| 19:14.43 | Cide | (or because we set up guild runs of underbog, and I was the only one collecting sanguine hibiscus) |
| 19:14.45 | Lopeppeppy | So? |
| 19:14.50 | ralfWORK | Cide: rofl |
| 19:15.00 | ralfWORK | Lopeppeppy: sorry, I meant sporeggar |
| 19:15.08 | Cide | no no, sporeggar is a great faction |
| 19:15.09 | ralfWORK | furbolgs need love too! |
| 19:15.18 | Cide | awesome tabards, and a shitty alchemy recipe |
| 19:15.25 | Cide | tabard* |
| 19:15.39 | Lopeppeppy | Neither is useless, it's fun and a way to farm with a purpose if you're bored, and just something to do. Mushrooms are people too. |
| 19:17.27 | ralfWORK | ok yea, collecting 12 or 13 heroic gems... that's gonna suck |
| 19:17.43 | ralfWORK | but still, I like it! |
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| 19:18.40 | Cide | inc semi-spam |
| 19:18.41 | Cide | First when you loot a Bind on Pickup item that only you can pick up (such as Heroic Badges) you'll no longer see the confirmation dialog. One less pop-up to deal with, obviously you want your badges, AMIRITE? |
| 19:18.41 | Cide | Also when you loot a Bind of Pickup item the confirmation window is going to list the name of the item in the window. You'll be able to identify that you're getting the right items much easier now. |
| 19:18.51 | Industrial | is it possible to have more then one spell in a macro (WAIT WAIT)? Spells that you can never use at the same time like Concussive Shot and Wing Clip and Mongoose Bite ? |
| 19:18.53 | Cide | (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4311144321&postId=43106875274&sid=1#0) |
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| 19:20.10 | ralfWORK | Cide: both very nice changes |
| 19:20.17 | Industrial | they are all instant and reactional (range/dodge) so can I put a /stopcasting after each of them? |
| 19:23.35 | ralfWORK | woit... |
| 19:23.39 | Industrial | nope I cant |
| 19:23.41 | Industrial | bah |
| 19:23.49 | ralfWORK | there is no straight +spell damage heroic gem? |
| 19:24.04 | kergoth | pretty sure the macro stops on the first spell cast that affects the gcd. heroic strike is different because it's an "on next attack" effect |
| 19:24.43 | Industrial | right too bad. would be nice to mix con/clip in one button |
| 19:25.24 | Kaso | i cant believe he said "AMIRITE" :palmface: |
| 19:25.44 | kergoth | Industrial: agreed |
| 19:26.09 | kergoth | course you could use a castsequence using macrosequence and just spam it |
| 19:27.00 | Industrial | right |
| 19:27.04 | Industrial | usually do that anyway |
| 19:27.09 | Industrial | (spam the buttons) |
| 19:27.19 | kergoth | nice thign with macrosequence is its sequences dont stop when a spellcast fails |
| 19:27.28 | kergoth | which is why you'd probably want to use it here rather than a regular /castsequence |
| 19:27.59 | Industrial | *todo* |
| 19:28.15 | Cidan | BAWABAWA |
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| 19:28.30 | Industrial | im now walking with ESDF. putting all my spells around it in a hopefully logical way |
| 19:29.02 | kergoth | thats what i do too |
| 19:30.33 | Guillotine | kd3: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4311163389&pageNo=1&sid=1#6 |
| 19:30.40 | ralfWORK | wow. I can't believe that. |
| 19:30.48 | ralfWORK | no spell damage epic gems |
| 19:30.56 | kd3 | added that a few seconds ago. more on the wiki as well re warriors, fishing in a moment |
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| 19:32.04 | Lunessa | http://xkcd.com/378/ |
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| 19:33.41 | kd3 | more UI changes: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4311144321&sid=1 |
| 19:34.18 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:34.26 | kergoth | nice |
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| 19:46.19 | Lunessa | I can write a target conditional as [target=noharm/dead] right? |
| 19:47.13 | kd3 | [noharm,nodead] is what I think you're trying to use |
| 19:47.19 | Lunessa | thanks. |
| 19:47.37 | Lunessa | I'm having a brain-dead day, instead of my normal merely comatose. |
| 19:47.53 | kd3 | wait, do you want it to be a non-harmable target or a dead target, or a nonharmable,non-dead target? |
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| 19:50.19 | Polarina | Hahaha: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4311114261&sid=1&pageNo=1 http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4311114261&sid=1&pageNo=3#50 |
| 19:51.14 | Valaron|Work | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4311204327&sid=1 I wish I had paid my fees so I could respond by saying "Add a /stopmacro [nomod:alt] right after the /cast line" :P |
| 19:51.39 | Lunessa | I punted. |
| 19:51.45 | Lunessa | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4311114142&postId=43106378289&sid=1#2 |
| 19:52.59 | Lunessa | And yes, feel free to laugh and the otherwise crappy nature of that macro. |
| 19:53.00 | Polarina | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4311144220&sid=1 |
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| 19:54.01 | [Liquidor] | Evening everyone - How's your weekend? *giggle* |
| 19:54.08 | Valaron|Work | Feh |
| 19:55.13 | ralfWORK | oh so only 25 man raids will drop more tokens |
| 19:55.16 | ralfWORK | that sucks |
| 19:55.25 | ralfWORK | I wanted more rogue T4 to shard :( |
| 19:57.24 | ralfWORK | it's the only thing that does drop for us :( |
| 19:58.12 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:02.46 | sag_ich_nicht | lol. |
| 20:02.54 | sag_ich_nicht | as if druid aggro wasn't insane enough already |
| 20:02.54 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 20:07.29 | Lunessa | *grrrr* users who want me to support their random PDA or phone |
| 20:08.00 | Lopeppeppy | Grrr for users who have asked me to fix their home internet. |
| 20:08.27 | Lunessa | .. "but, it gets e-mail and can use Outlook!" Yeah, well, did we install it for you? No? Isi it on our "supported list? No? then fuck off. |
| 20:11.25 | Lunessa | Yeah, I'm in one of those moods, sorry. |
| 20:11.47 | Lopeppeppy | *hug* |
| 20:12.10 | kd3 | warrior: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4311164420&pageNo=1&sid=1#1 |
| 20:13.18 | sag_ich_nicht | meh |
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| 20:22.42 | Thunder_Child | wtf is up with movies and endings nowadays...it's like they have the whole movie down except for the end and they have a huge brain fart and figure that the credits go well right there |
| 20:23.58 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: Thank the test audiences. |
| 20:24.08 | ralfWORK | Thunder_Child: uhm... huh? |
| 20:25.32 | Lunessa | What happens is movies get "test marketed" to an audience. If the movie doesn't do well, studios change the film, re-cutting or even re-shooting parts to get a movie they think will make money based on the feedback they got. |
| 20:25.52 | Lunessa | Which is why a lot of endings feel "pasted on" |
| 20:31.49 | batrick | Shirik|Ecole: wut |
| 20:31.58 | Shirik|Ecole | too late I solved my problem. |
| 20:32.26 | batrick | k |
| 20:33.59 | Shizen | Shirik |
| 20:34.02 | Shizen | the dead watcher |
| 20:34.08 | Shizen | how's your breadboard |
| 20:34.25 | Shirik|Ecole | won't see it until maybe 30 min |
| 20:34.30 | kd3 | pvp: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4311154279&pageNo=1&sid=1#3 |
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| 20:43.25 | cladhaire | wow |
| 20:43.27 | cladhaire | kd3: interesting |
| 20:43.28 | cladhaire | i support that |
| 20:43.32 | cladhaire | easiest to jump start pvp |
| 20:44.28 | Shizen | hrmmm |
| 20:44.36 | sag_ich_nicht | kd3: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=2405447725&sid=1 has been updated with more information |
| 20:45.03 | kd3 | yup. someone got that on the wiki a few seconds ago. was in the process of announcing it in here |
| 20:46.47 | ralfWORK | Characters will now retain talented spell ranks so when they retalent they do not have to relearn the spells from trainers. <-- NICE |
| 20:46.58 | alestane | IT's those little convenience things. |
| 20:47.16 | ralfWORK | yea it really is |
| 20:47.17 | alestane | Like when they got rid of the wait to log back in after you got DC'd. |
| 20:47.42 | ralfWORK | what I'd like more is a way to have spells still bound to toolbars even if you untalent them |
| 20:47.55 | ralfWORK | re-adding Inner Focus every time I respec is stupid :P |
| 20:48.01 | Lunessa | Actually, that was one change I was praying for. |
| 20:48.37 | Lunessa | I mean, if I respec a demonology warlock, I don't have to rebuy all the demon's spells, so why do I have to re-buy all of mine? |
| 20:48.46 | ralfWORK | another I'd like to see, but is probably not ever gonna happen, |
| 20:49.13 | ralfWORK | is a way to have pre-defined specs |
| 20:49.30 | ralfWORK | maybe a handful of "saved" specs |
| 20:49.44 | ralfWORK | so I can quickly respec from say, PVE to PVP or from Holy to Shadow |
| 20:49.50 | ralfWORK | charge the respec, that's fine, |
| 20:49.57 | ralfWORK | but I hate remembering which points to put where |
| 20:50.25 | ralfWORK | (granted, I'm getting pretty good at remembering though) |
| 20:53.09 | kd3 | arena: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4311204347&pageNo=1&sid=1#8 |
| 20:55.36 | malreth | if the microsoft/yahoo buyout actually happens, i hope they change the name of the company to Miyahoo! and make everyone dance/lipsync to that Dragostea Din Tei song |
| 20:56.12 | Shizen | lol |
| 20:56.20 | Shizen | Myahee Miyahoo~ |
| 20:56.27 | Shizen | etc etc |
| 20:58.05 | Kirkburn | kd3 is compiling the notes here as well btw (he's so awesome) - http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_2.4.0 |
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| 21:01.31 | Thunder_Child | "Players can now only carry 80 Conjured Manna Biscuits at a time." is kinda silly |
| 21:02.13 | Cide | why? |
| 21:02.14 | kd3 | it'll finally put a stop to the asses in BGs getting the entire table |
| 21:02.17 | Cide | it's a great change |
| 21:02.20 | Cide | for everyone's good |
| 21:02.42 | Thunder_Child | well puting a click limit per person would be better |
| 21:02.43 | batrick | mages should be absolved from that rule |
| 21:02.54 | kd3 | there is. it's 4 |
| 21:02.55 | Thunder_Child | why should someone be limited to 4 stacks |
| 21:03.05 | Cide | Thunder_Child: aren't those the same? :P |
| 21:03.10 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 21:03.14 | Cide | what's the difference? |
| 21:03.18 | Thunder_Child | cary is not the same as click |
| 21:03.39 | Thunder_Child | if someone makes another table down the road and you have only used one stack you can then only get one more stack |
| 21:04.22 | Cide | right |
| 21:04.26 | Cide | if you use 4, ask for a new table then |
| 21:04.40 | Cide | stop crying, honestly, it's a good change overall |
| 21:04.45 | Thunder_Child | whats the reason for limiting to 4 stacks though? |
| 21:05.03 | Cide | the fact that people clicked and got everything in the whole table and then /afk'd |
| 21:05.15 | Thunder_Child | limit the table then, not the stacks |
| 21:05.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Becuase peopel are PRICKS |
| 21:05.18 | Cide | using up a cooldown and reagents for the mage who wanted to provide the team with food and water |
| 21:05.20 | ScytheBlade1 | *people |
| 21:05.22 | Cide | what? |
| 21:05.23 | ScytheBlade1 | 1) Enter AV |
| 21:05.25 | Cide | the table is limited |
| 21:05.25 | ScytheBlade1 | 2) Conjure a table |
| 21:05.35 | ScytheBlade1 | 3) Watch a (random class here) click fourty-five times |
| 21:05.36 | Thunder_Child | then why snould it matter how many you can caryr |
| 21:05.44 | ScytheBlade1 | 4) Five charges left on the table! |
| 21:05.47 | Thunder_Child | carry* |
| 21:05.56 | Cide | because since the table is limited, people will use up EVERYTHING |
| 21:06.04 | Cide | leaving nothing for anyone else |
| 21:06.08 | Cide | a single person will use up everything |
| 21:06.21 | Thunder_Child | thats why i am saying limit the clicks |
| 21:06.27 | ScytheBlade1 | .... |
| 21:06.37 | ScytheBlade1 | How would you do tha? |
| 21:06.38 | ScytheBlade1 | *that? |
| 21:06.38 | Cide | that's 1) a more complicated solution, and 2) not much better, imo |
| 21:06.45 | Cide | I don't think they have the backend suppotr for that |
| 21:06.46 | ScytheBlade1 | That would be a brand new mechanic in game |
| 21:06.48 | Cide | support |
| 21:06.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Exactly |
| 21:07.07 | Cide | sure, it would probably be better, but not that much better |
| 21:07.15 | Thunder_Child | you can create the table in a 5-man right? |
| 21:07.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes |
| 21:07.27 | Cide | this is a great solution, but sure, not the optimal one |
| 21:07.29 | Thunder_Child | so out of 50 charges you can only use 20 |
| 21:07.33 | ScytheBlade1 | And? |
| 21:07.34 | Thunder_Child | 30 wasted charges |
| 21:07.34 | Cide | the optimal one would be to abolish all the pricks |
| 21:07.42 | Thunder_Child | Cide /agreed |
| 21:07.52 | Thunder_Child | <-- mage |
| 21:07.53 | Cide | Thunder_Child: what about the soulwells or whatever? |
| 21:08.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Look, if the amount of food you're carrying is a problem |
| 21:08.12 | Thunder_Child | Cide, i dont remember the same issue with them |
| 21:08.16 | Cide | 10 charges, 5 people in a 5man! |
| 21:08.22 | Cide | WHAT A WASTE |
| 21:08.24 | ScytheBlade1 | You can always press the "conjure food" and "conjure water" button |
| 21:09.15 | Thunder_Child | i just think that if the charges are going to waste there is nothing wrong with sticking up |
| 21:09.22 | Thunder_Child | stocking* |
| 21:09.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Of course not |
| 21:09.42 | ScytheBlade1 | But, to watch that, they'd be introducing brand new game mechanics all around |
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| 21:10.18 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* dosent mean this is a good solution though |
| 21:10.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Better than the current, hands down |
| 21:11.03 | Thunder_Child | i didnt realize it was such a problem, i havent played on my 70 in quite a while |
| 21:11.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Walk into an AV, summon a table, watch it disappear in seconds |
| 21:11.24 | Cide | it has been a huge problem actually |
| 21:11.30 | kd3 | I refuse to summon tables in AV |
| 21:11.32 | ScytheBlade1 | "Stupid mage, drop a table!" while it's on cooldown for the next 4:50 |
| 21:11.33 | Cide | to the point where many (most?) mages don't even bother summoning |
| 21:11.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Because one prick was selfish, emptied the table into their bags, and then /afk'd |
| 21:11.57 | Thunder_Child | meh, shouldnt have a CS imo |
| 21:11.59 | Thunder_Child | CD* |
| 21:12.11 | Cide | ya, but then you have the problem of wasting a reagent :P |
| 21:12.12 | ScytheBlade1 | That would completly ursup the food/water vendors though |
| 21:12.12 | Saint-N | wheee |
| 21:12.14 | ScytheBlade1 | And the reagents |
| 21:12.25 | Saint-N | I used my "free domain reg" with dreamhost on wowdev.net |
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| 21:12.42 | Thunder_Child | well the reagents thing is fine, that spent money just like blizz wants |
| 21:12.50 | Thunder_Child | thats* |
| 21:13.09 | Cide | yes, but it's not fine from a ninja perspective |
| 21:13.18 | Cide | removing the CD alone won't solve the problem |
| 21:13.40 | ScytheBlade1 | The CD is there for a reason. The CD isn't the problem. |
| 21:13.41 | Cide | since people will just ninja multiple tables, or always ninja the first table, effectively doubling the reagent cost for the mage |
| 21:13.45 | Thunder_Child | true, but even with the 4 stack limit i dont think it should have a CD |
| 21:13.56 | Cide | well, that's another issue |
| 21:15.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Even given that you have wasted charges in a 5 man, that's still 80 times you can sit down. Even on a heroic, that's enough to full clear three different heroics before the amount becomes a problem |
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| 21:20.49 | Cairenn | alestane|wow: |
| 21:20.52 | Cairenn | ~wowprogramming |
| 21:20.55 | purl | [wowprogramming] World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons, a book written by Cladhaire, Kaelten and Cogwheel. It serves as a technical reference for the WoW API and customization system (Due out Early 2008). http://tinyurl.com/2vtlya |
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| 21:22.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Whoa, holy crap, 1100 pages |
| 21:23.26 | cog|work | holy crap |
| 21:23.42 | ScytheBlade1 | That might be *massive* |
| 21:24.36 | ScytheBlade1 | $23.99 for 1100 pages of wow addon documentation? Yes please |
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| 21:27.13 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/351502/the-most-massive-lens-at-pma-2008 |
| 21:28.20 | Duman | *shakefist at post timer for EDITING a post* |
| 21:28.38 | malreth | TC: i linked the sigma lens earlier this morning |
| 21:29.13 | malreth | although the picture of it in reference to the size of a HUMANHEAD puts some perspective to it |
| 21:29.42 | malreth | also, that boy has a fat noggin |
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| 21:34.00 | Polarina | *sigh* |
| 21:34.15 | Polarina | I'm never going to shop at Amazon again because of http://www.amazon.com/World-Warcraft-Wrath-Lich-Expansion/dp/B000VJTJNE/ref=pd_sim_b_img_3 |
| 21:34.35 | Thunder_Child | "(13:29:04) (malreth) TC: i linked the sigma lens earlier this morning" will i wasnt here earlier this morning so poo poo to you |
| 21:34.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Polarina: same thing on gamestop.com |
| 21:35.05 | malreth | TC: good point! |
| 21:35.08 | Polarina | These people are idiots... |
| 21:38.31 | Cidan | I hope Blizzard allows for UI Devs to get into the WotLK beta |
| 21:38.39 | Cidan | like they did for BC through wowi |
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| 21:40.46 | bleeter | Cidan: I'd be *very* suprised if they'd allow a release to go out with a month or two's worth of 'omg blizz broke my ui' qq'ing ;) |
| 21:41.56 | Cidan | well I mean it depends if you think about it |
| 21:42.08 | Cidan | 1.x->2.x saw a major UI change because of the new secure frames |
| 21:42.20 | Cidan | but I don't think 2.x->3.x will see such a grand change |
| 21:42.22 | ScytheBlade1 | That was also on the PTR |
| 21:42.23 | Saint-N | 2.0 also had major functionality embedded |
| 21:42.42 | Saint-N | all the new interface options previously actioned by addons |
| 21:42.46 | Cidan | indeed the biggest change they could have done, they are doing in 2.4 |
| 21:42.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Ohh, 2.6.24 has tickless support for x86-64 |
| 21:43.09 | Saint-N | so |
| 21:43.15 | Cidan | sew |
| 21:43.15 | Saint-N | I now own wowdev.net |
| 21:43.25 | Saint-N | surprisingly it wasn't reg'd |
| 21:43.36 | Thunder_Child | wowdev.com was? |
| 21:43.41 | Saint-N | yup and .org |
| 21:44.01 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl @ .com |
| 21:44.10 | Cidan | .com looks lame |
| 21:44.20 | Saint-N | .net also has the added implications of .NET |
| 21:44.29 | Saint-N | wowdev .NET |
| 21:44.30 | Saint-N | ;) |
| 21:44.40 | Cidan | Oooo, good point! |
| 21:44.47 | Cidan | Now I know to avoid the site like the plauge! |
| 21:44.57 | Cidan | Whew, thanks, that saved me a whole lot of trouble. |
| 21:45.00 | Saint-N | heh like you browse anything but porn |
| 21:45.04 | Cidan | True |
| 21:45.05 | Thrae | wowdev.or.gy |
| 21:45.19 | Saint-N | I don't think your proxy filters allow anything that doesn't have porn in the header ;P |
| 21:45.35 | Cidan | Indeed, I have squid setup to only allow pr0n sites in. |
| 21:45.54 | Polarina | Could some be so kind and report this thread for mentioning Lua in all-uppercase? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4311143582&sid=1 |
| 21:46.01 | ScytheBlade1 | lol, there's a way to get a lot of free porn |
| 21:46.03 | Saint-N | hah |
| 21:46.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Setup a transparent squid proxy at a college dorm |
| 21:46.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Bam |
| 21:46.29 | Saint-N | yes because porn is soooo difficult to find on your own |
| 21:46.43 | Cidan | christ |
| 21:46.58 | Nechckn | It all depends on the -type- of porn though, Saint-N |
| 21:46.58 | Cidan | 73 dead in suicide bombings in Iraq today |
| 21:47.03 | Saint-N | that's true |
| 21:47.07 | Cidan | in baghdad, even. |
| 21:47.18 | Saint-N | Cidan: that's just propganda for the 2008 elections |
| 21:47.27 | Cidan | Saint-N: haha no? |
| 21:47.36 | Saint-N | everyone knows that iraq was over in about 2 weeks andis well on its way to being a stable prosperous nation |
| 21:47.39 | Nechckn | Indeed... and sad that someone's propoganda is paid for in lives. |
| 21:47.47 | Saint-N | you can't declare victory without that ;) |
| 21:51.32 | bleeter | hah http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/3254/wowscrnshot020108131114mz7.jpg |
| 21:55.26 | Polarina | bleeter: What did you do to the wine code this time? ;) |
| 21:55.31 | zenzelezz | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/funny-pictures-cat-asks-for-id.jpg |
| 21:55.52 | kd3 | bleeter; ahaha |
| 21:56.10 | bleeter | man, another oceanic banned for using lowerping |
| 21:56.28 | bleeter | wish blizz would install their own freaken lowerping service over here, then we wouldn't fkn have to go get banned |
| 21:56.35 | kd3 | you sure that's not another person banned for using "addons"? |
| 21:56.57 | bleeter | as it is, I believe one of the major 3 ISPs here have a lowerping service they provide to their WoW customers |
| 21:57.38 | bleeter | kd3: well, tbh.. no. ;) |
| 21:57.58 | Xinhuan | kd3: you did the patch 2.4 wiki page? |
| 21:58.12 | kd3 | got most of that info, ya |
| 21:58.15 | Xinhuan | link 24 is broken, try http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4311114261&postId=43106576607&sid=1#0 |
| 21:58.32 | Saint-N | why would you get banned for using lowerping? |
| 21:58.45 | bleeter | Polarina: nothing, why do you ask? |
| 21:58.57 | Polarina | bleeter: Curious. :) |
| 21:58.59 | bleeter | Saint-N: changing continents via IP |
| 21:59.13 | Xinhuan | because if you change continents via IP, and you level up from 10 to 30 in a single day on that new IP |
| 21:59.16 | Saint-N | and that's against the ToS/EULA how? |
| 21:59.20 | Xinhuan | it looks like you paid a power-lvling service |
| 21:59.23 | Xinhuan | so they ban |
| 21:59.24 | Saint-N | ahhh |
| 21:59.29 | Saint-N | so accidental ban filtered |
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| 21:59.34 | Xinhuan | correct |
| 21:59.38 | Saint-N | not a legit stop that you abstards! |
| 21:59.44 | Xinhuan | all the ones i know who got banned this way, got unbanned within a week |
| 21:59.46 | kd3 | xin; thanks |
| 21:59.59 | Xinhuan | np |
| 21:59.59 | Saint-N | ahh that makes sense then |
| 22:00.04 | bleeter | Xinhuan: this guy in CSF is claiming it's the second weekend in a row his buddy's got banned for using lowerping |
| 22:00.06 | cog|work | what's that site that builds pseudo patch notes from various announcements? |
| 22:00.09 | Saint-N | I thought you were saying that blizz was banning because of the service, not the implied cheating |
| 22:00.19 | bleeter | er s/for/from/ |
| 22:00.19 | Xinhuan | lol, all i can say is, don'tuse lowerping for lvling |
| 22:00.25 | Shirik | I hope if its 3 tokens per boss, it is one per token. Cause getting triple vanquisher would suck. |
| 22:00.26 | Shirik | It would make good sence to make it one vanq. /conq. /defen. per kill. |
| 22:00.28 | Shirik | grrrr |
| 22:00.28 | Xinhuan | you can use it to do anything else |
| 22:00.31 | Xinhuan | just not lvling |
| 22:00.36 | Shirik | Because you know, the game isn't easy enough already |
| 22:00.39 | zenzelezz | worldofraids.com is pretty quick to pick up blue posts, but don't know if they collect them |
| 22:00.48 | Shirik | I wish people would, you know, cherish the fact that there's a random component to the game |
| 22:01.08 | Saint-N | I cherish the fact there's a random component to you rants |
| 22:01.19 | Shirik | Wasn't really random; Xinhuan's link above |
| 22:01.21 | bleeter | I cherish my nuts |
| 22:01.21 | Bibi | I think there is a faster website zenzelezz |
| 22:01.22 | Shirik | but most of my rants are indeed |
| 22:01.35 | Xinhuan | kd3, note that link doesn't say anything about epic gems from dungeons |
| 22:01.45 | Saint-N | random doesn't nessessarily imply completely unrelated ;P |
| 22:01.50 | bleeter | Bibi: that mmo-champion.com site? run by a madman, I heard! :P |
| 22:01.51 | kd3 | bah. need the euro version of that post then |
| 22:01.54 | Saint-N | neccessarily |
| 22:01.58 | Bibi | yeah bleeter :( |
| 22:02.00 | Saint-N | or however its spelt |
| 22:02.55 | Xinhuan | that's a different link i think |
| 22:02.58 | Xinhuan | i can't fidn it |
| 22:03.33 | Saint-N | wow neat |
| 22:03.41 | Saint-N | trial accounts can't talk inthe barrens anymore |
| 22:04.04 | kd3 | they haven't been able to talk in /1 for a while if memory serves. you mean they can't even /say? |
| 22:04.31 | cog|work | bleeter: thanks |
| 22:04.41 | bleeter | cog|work: que? |
| 22:04.57 | cog|work | you're the only one who said "mmo-champion" since i asked my question :P |
| 22:05.06 | Xinhuan | kd3 appears the source from mmo-champion, but they didn't have a link to the source about the epic dnugeon gems |
| 22:05.13 | Xinhuan | is* from |
| 22:05.34 | bleeter | cog|work: ah :) |
| 22:05.38 | kd3 | I saw it. wouldn't have added it to the wiki if I hadn't... apparently that only got posted over in europe or there's a different post in the US |
| 22:05.54 | Xinhuan | there's another post, i'll link |
| 22:05.57 | Bibi | Xinhuan : huh ? |
| 22:06.00 | Bibi | what epic dungeons gems ? |
| 22:06.03 | Bibi | the heroic drops ? |
| 22:06.07 | Bibi | # |
| 22:06.07 | Bibi | # Gems obtained through Heroic difficulty instances are no longer Unique-equipped. (Source) |
| 22:06.10 | Bibi | the source is here :/ |
| 22:06.39 | Xinhuan | where hmm |
| 22:06.43 | Xinhuan | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=F79B46DB80B01B8623B950191F90C80A?topicId=4311114311&sid=1 |
| 22:06.45 | Bibi | and added it to items as well, just for fun |
| 22:06.46 | Xinhuan | this one got deleted |
| 22:06.47 | Xinhuan | somehow |
| 22:07.26 | Xinhuan | ah yes, that link |
| 22:07.29 | Xinhuan | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=2405447683&sid=1 |
| 22:08.13 | kd3 | bingo. |
| 22:08.33 | Duman | winnar |
| 22:09.52 | Xinhuan | the mining link [23] is a bit dubious though |
| 22:09.57 | Xinhuan | the blue post didn't mention a timeframe |
| 22:11.38 | bleeter | oO I do believe that's the first time I've seen a clickable link in the game's 'alert' frame |
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| 22:14.55 | Saint-N | okay stupid hardware question |
| 22:15.26 | Saint-N | if a cpu is burnt out, will it still get hot if its sitting in the mobo and will no memory error beeps still happen? |
| 22:16.35 | Shirik | "Also when you loot a Bind of Pickup item the confirmation window is going to list the name of the item in the window. You'll be able to identify that you're getting the right items much easier now. " |
| 22:16.44 | Shirik | Saint-N: Depends on the nature of the failure |
| 22:17.11 | Shirik | If the damage caused a junction to lock shorted, then yes, it's going to get very hot, very fast :P |
| 22:17.37 | Saint-N | hrm |
| 22:17.43 | Saint-N | okay the cpu isn't getting hot |
| 22:17.51 | Shirik | It doesn't have to though :) |
| 22:17.58 | Shirik | That's my point, that's not really going to be able to tell you anything |
| 22:18.00 | Saint-N | the dell ABCD lights aren't flashing or doing anything and without mem it doesn't beep |
| 22:18.08 | Saint-N | yet |
| 22:18.26 | Shirik | in all honesty, I have yet to see a CPU fail. Not going to lie, |
| 22:18.30 | Saint-N | it powers on and the power connections through the motherboard to the cd and hdd and fan still function |
| 22:18.38 | Shirik | that doesn't mean it can't happen, but I have seen motherboards fail a lot more than CPUs |
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| 22:33.24 | frop | someone uses WUU? |
| 22:33.40 | Xinhuan | " Why do idiots make stupid threads like this one is the real question. Why does it matter how the loot is randomly generated? It's randomly generated NO MATTER WHAT so why does it matter? Stop spamming n00bs." |
| 22:33.41 | Xinhuan | rofl |
| 22:33.48 | Xinhuan | best post in the loot generation thread |
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| 22:34.13 | Duman | heh |
| 22:34.18 | Shirik | "The public key and private key for any given user aren't mathematically related. " |
| 22:34.24 | Shirik | Who let this guy work at IBM |
| 22:34.25 | Duman | some people have severe issues understanding what "random" means |
| 22:43.43 | Thunder_Child | "(14:43:44) -› Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg ) (505)" wtf, i wasnt even in irc |
| 22:51.02 | Industrial | Duman: function random(...) return 3--[[random by dice roll]end |
| 22:51.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Linux ksb 2.6.24 #1 SMP Fri Feb 1 14:57:30 MST 2008 x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux |
| 22:51.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Mmmm |
| 22:51.31 | ScytheBlade1 | 2.6.24 |
| 22:51.50 | Kaso | is that from xkcd Industrial ? |
| 22:51.57 | Industrial | maybe |
| 22:51.59 | Industrial | cant remember |
| 22:52.30 | Industrial | I know MoonWolf has it in hiw wowace profile |
| 22:52.31 | Kaso | i remeber seeing that before |
| 22:52.38 | Industrial | er, sigh |
| 22:52.40 | Industrial | -h |
| 22:52.43 | MoonWolf | i have waht ? |
| 22:52.59 | Industrial | the random by dice roll thingy in your sig |
| 22:53.01 | Industrial | where is it from |
| 22:53.04 | alestane|wow | There is an xkcd strip to that effect. |
| 22:53.06 | MoonWolf | xkcd |
| 22:53.08 | Industrial | k |
| 22:53.08 | MoonWolf | rewritten to lua |
| 22:53.14 | Kaso | http://xkcd.com/221/ |
| 22:53.52 | Industrial | and now, to get wireless working |
| 22:53.55 | Industrial | and then maybe profile |
| 22:54.00 | Industrial | on my laptop on linux :o |
| 22:57.40 | cog|work | Industrial: /wrists imo |
| 22:58.02 | Industrial | Yes, but I want it working for school lol :P |
| 22:58.18 | Industrial | I'm about to wipe the HD and install ubuntu anyway so I wont have to go and config it all by hand myself |
| 22:58.28 | Industrial | usually use archlinux but fuck it :> |
| 22:59.16 | frop | nooo |
| 22:59.34 | frop | /etc/networks-profiles |
| 22:59.39 | ScytheBlade1 | 200g away from my second epic flyer : |
| 22:59.39 | frop | somenoghtin like that |
| 22:59.41 | ScytheBlade1 | * :/ |
| 22:59.55 | frop | tonighit was a nightmare for me |
| 23:00.07 | frop | 600ms...and > 10dc in av |
| 23:01.39 | Shirik | !ap 1603 |
| 23:01.39 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Arena points from a rating of 1603 is, 2v2: 356, 3v3: 412, 5v5: 469 |
| 23:02.08 | Industrial | !ap 1450 |
| 23:02.08 | ThraeBot | Industrial: Arena points from a rating of 1450 is, 2v2: 253, 3v3: 293, 5v5: 333 |
| 23:02.09 | Industrial | lmao |
| 23:02.14 | Industrial | so sad :< |
| 23:03.33 | Shirik | wow |
| 23:03.35 | Shirik | 1450? |
| 23:03.46 | Shirik | And sadly it's the same points roughly as my 2v2 team |
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| 23:03.55 | Industrial | yeah I played 5 games 2v2 for fun and lost them all |
| 23:04.02 | nevcairiel | recreate and you get 50 bonus points! |
| 23:04.03 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 23:04.13 | Shirik | ? |
| 23:04.15 | Shirik | 50 bonus points? |
| 23:04.25 | nevcairiel | if you're at 1450 .. you get 1500 again :) |
| 23:04.31 | Shirik | oh lol |
| 23:04.38 | Shirik | rating not points :P |
| 23:04.51 | kd3 | k. think I've finally got all of the changes on the wiki now... http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_2.4.0 |
| 23:05.03 | kd3 | need to poke slouken or zoot, some UI changes aren't mentioned here in the US afaik |
| 23:08.12 | Duman | kd3, paladin itemization changes (no details tho) |
| 23:08.19 | kd3 | it's in "Items" |
| 23:08.28 | Duman | ahh yes |
| 23:08.36 | Duman | Was looking under classes :) |
| 23:09.20 | Duman | btw 'Battlemasters are now standing on platforms with collision around them' = finally |
| 23:09.29 | ScytheBlade1 | No joke |
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| 23:14.49 | Thrae | All non-Rogues should have this addon. It should be built into the default UI -- http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7252-JooJanta200Super-ChromaticPerilSensitiveSunglasses.html |
| 23:17.38 | wereHamster | great addon :) |
| 23:21.23 | Xinhuan | why is rogues banned from using it? |
| 23:21.39 | cog|work | 'cause they're the ones doing the removing of control... |
| 23:21.46 | cog|work | imo |
| 23:21.49 | Cide | yep! |
| 23:21.53 | Cide | blind should blind people |
| 23:21.56 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:21.59 | Xinhuan | what if i blind your rogue with my blind :D |
| 23:22.08 | Cide | then you will get blinded. |
| 23:22.15 | Cide | for every reaction, there's an equal and opposite reaction. |
| 23:22.40 | Cide | s/every reaction/every action/ |
| 23:23.43 | Xinhuan | i'm going to piss you off by X%, does that mean there is an equal and opposite reaction where you like me X% better? :) |
| 23:24.02 | Cide | no, it means that I will piss YOU off by X% as well |
| 23:24.09 | Xinhuan | :< |
| 23:24.23 | Cide | which is probably true, since I will be a major non-swedeheart to you if you piss me off |
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| 23:30.06 | Wobin | * Characters will now retain talented spell ranks so when they retalent they do not have to relearn the spells from trainers. |
| 23:30.07 | Wobin | hm |
| 23:30.44 | zenzelezz | yeah, cause after paying 50g for another respec those 2.5g on talent ranks was killing you |
| 23:31.08 | alestane|wow | Not every improvement has to be critical. |
| 23:31.09 | Wobin | I wonder how they're going to handle it if you -don't- end up respeccing those specific talents? |
| 23:31.42 | Wobin | PS * Players can now only carry 80 Conjured Manna Biscuits at a time. |
| 23:31.48 | Wobin | haha you greedy bastards =) |
| 23:32.03 | alestane|wow | My guess is once you have, say, Bloodthirst rank 4, you always know it...but it doesn't show up unless you also have Bloodthirst rank 1. |
| 23:32.33 | Wobin | I reckon if you should automatically get the maximum rank of talent for your level |
| 23:32.38 | Wobin | s/if// |
| 23:32.49 | Wobin | once learned |
| 23:33.15 | Wobin | how embarassing =) |
| 23:33.37 | zenzelezz | I used rank 1 spells for some time the first time I rolled a non-warrior |
| 23:33.46 | Wobin | oh man. |
| 23:33.50 | Wobin | no more honor calcs? |
| 23:33.51 | zenzelezz | I assumed it auto-upgraded my acitonbar, but at the time it didn't |
| 23:33.53 | Wobin | that's fantastic |
| 23:33.58 | Wobin | time for chainganking =P |
| 23:34.43 | zenzelezz | you don't have to worry anymore either, you're not worth any honor after dying 50 times in the same BG! |
| 23:36.00 | Wobin | "The mobs aren't actually created until someone enters the area. Sometimes you'll see mobs sort of "fall" a bit to the ground, or groups of mobs all fan out from a single point. This is usually the creation happening. Ideally you don't notice it at all though. " |
| 23:36.02 | Wobin | ahah |
| 23:36.11 | Wobin | I can remember flying across netherstorm |
| 23:36.24 | Wobin | and watching the mana feeders spawn, and drop to their deaths in the voids =) |
| 23:36.29 | Wobin | it's very entertaining |
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| 23:37.41 | Wobin | actually |
| 23:37.45 | Wobin | the -one- thing I want |
| 23:38.14 | Wobin | is for nether vortices to be badge buyable |
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| 23:40.44 | kd3 | huh, I've never seen that before... a clickable link in the breaking news window |
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| 23:47.30 | dylanm | Yeah that popped out at me as well, kd3. |
| 23:47.54 | ScytheBlade1 | It uses their simplehtml thing |
| 23:49.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Who knows where in the stock UI code the "right-click on your/a party member's portrait menu" code is? |
| 23:50.34 | ScytheBlade1 | I can't find it, anywhere :/ |
| 23:50.51 | kd3 | UnitPopup.lua |
| 23:51.07 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 23:51.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Figures |
| 23:52.15 | ScytheBlade1 | I was searching the Party* files |
| 23:53.05 | ScytheBlade1 | ty |
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| 23:56.49 | Thrae | http://www.xkcd.com/349/ <-- read the alt text and know why OpenBSD should not be attempted by the weak of heart. |
| 23:57.07 | art3mis | heh yeah |
| 23:57.13 | art3mis | you should see theo's arms |
| 23:57.23 | art3mis | he codes in a full shark mesh these days |
