| 00:00.03 | Duman | they were fixing the cases where CD was never triggering, so those cases will now have 90% damage reduction... all other times will be 99% reduction |
| 00:01.31 | Shizen | hmm |
| 00:01.38 | Shizen | I wonder if there's a way to catch all events |
| 00:01.40 | bleeter | yeah, I like the OP on that 'ice lance 2 dmg wtf?' hehe |
| 00:01.46 | Shizen | and display their arguments |
| 00:01.55 | JoshBorke | ~devtools |
| 00:01.56 | purl | Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet? |
| 00:02.05 | Shizen | O.O |
| 00:02.06 | JoshBorke | Shizen: /dtchatevents and /dtevents in that mod |
| 00:02.12 | Shizen | RIGHT |
| 00:02.15 | Shizen | I FORGOT about that |
| 00:02.20 | Shizen | sheesh thank you |
| 00:02.40 | Shizen | to forgot about that... hopefully Iriel's not around >_> |
| 00:02.51 | JoshBorke | np |
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| 00:04.42 | bleeter | ah, not OP but post #40 |
| 00:10.11 | Cairenn | Shirik: ping |
| 00:10.18 | Shirik | Cairenn: pong |
| 00:10.25 | Cairenn | staff channel dear :) |
| 00:10.28 | Shirik | wtf |
| 00:10.46 | Shirik | stupid client doesn't identify before autojoin |
| 00:11.37 | Shirik | Okay I'm trying to log into brighthouse's site to pay my bill |
| 00:11.45 | Shirik | Internal Server Error |
| 00:11.45 | Shirik | The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request. |
| 00:11.48 | Shirik | awesome. |
| 00:12.32 | bleeter | Duman: FIX T6 HELM NOW KTHXBAI! |
| 00:15.21 | kd3 | sweet |
| 00:15.21 | Shirik | > function a(a) coroutine.wrap(a)(a) end a(a) |
| 00:15.28 | kd3 | I ask and hortus replies |
| 00:15.31 | Shirik | :1: stdin:1: stdin:1: stdin:1: C stack overflow |
| 00:15.33 | Shirik | yey |
| 00:15.35 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4071474470&sid=1 |
| 00:21.36 | bleeter | kd3: you should just skip to v23 of the 'find stickies' pix, and save yourself the hassle of creating the intervening steps |
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| 00:25.16 | bleeter | hah, qotd: 'I can't outheal his damage to the English language' |
| 00:29.25 | Shizen | haha |
| 00:29.40 | Shizen | that's because he/she tries to heal |
| 00:29.44 | Shizen | first, dispell |
| 00:29.46 | Shizen | then heal |
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| 00:43.14 | bleeter | w... t... f.... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4064464545&sid=1 |
| 00:43.26 | Shirik | ROFL |
| 00:43.29 | bleeter | someone left GM commands enabled? |
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| 00:43.51 | bleeter | or some freak fake foo from a mod? |
| 00:44.10 | Shirik | uh |
| 00:44.18 | Shirik | no it just looks that wa |
| 00:44.23 | Shirik | The UI gets confused |
| 00:44.26 | Corrodias | it alters the display of gold in your game, i remember this from ages ago |
| 00:44.31 | Corrodias | but you don't gain any more |
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| 00:44.51 | bleeter | ahh |
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| 00:45.56 | Corrodias | ah, crap. patch day. |
| 00:46.01 | Corrodias | and i have a raid to get to >_< VERY FAST |
| 00:46.30 | bleeter | Corrodias: very tiny patch |
| 00:46.44 | bleeter | 4.3M content |
| 00:46.53 | Corrodias | funny, that's what your MOM said! |
| 00:46.55 | Corrodias | oh, wait :( |
| 00:47.44 | Shizen | hmmmm |
| 00:47.52 | Shizen | why am I watching Debbie Gibson clip on Youtube >_> |
| 00:48.57 | bleeter | Shizen: I thought the answer to that would be obvious :P |
| 00:49.31 | Shizen | meh |
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| 00:50.32 | Shizen | she was my idol :| |
| 00:50.34 | Corrodias | our first reactions on vent while logging in: |
| 00:50.41 | Corrodias | wasn't this patch supposed to REDUCE load times? |
| 00:55.54 | Shizen | I'm noticing faster load times alright... |
| 00:55.54 | Shizen | (albeit slightly) |
| 00:55.54 | Shirik | And I guess that's why they call it the blues. |
| 00:55.54 | Corrodias | SSC TIME WOOT |
| 00:55.55 | Shizen | Electric youth~~ |
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| 00:55.55 | Shirik | "chunk has too many syntax levels" |
| 00:55.55 | Shirik | nice error |
| 00:55.55 | Corrodias | my camera just flipped around for no reason |
| 00:58.22 | Cairenn | o.O |
| 00:59.42 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, you guys spoil me rotten. I'm lonely! |
| 00:59.59 | Shizen | grats on green btw :o |
| 01:00.23 | Cairenn | Lopeppeppy: tell me about it =/ |
| 01:00.45 | bleeter | Shizen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL2vo4PUHvo |
| 01:01.12 | Shizen | hmmm |
| 01:01.14 | Shirik | well this is interest |
| 01:01.20 | Shirik | Lua is convinced that 1e50 == 1 |
| 01:01.33 | Shizen | o.O |
| 01:01.41 | Shizen | is that 1 * e ^ 50 ? |
| 01:01.46 | Shizen | errr 10 |
| 01:01.47 | Shirik | 1 * 10^50 |
| 01:02.13 | Shirik | This is on 5.1.3rc5, going to 5.1.2 now to test there |
| 01:02.43 | Shirik | 5.1.2 agrees |
| 01:02.44 | bleeter | winona ryder as debbie gibson ftw |
| 01:03.33 | Shirik | and apparently 1e10 == nothing! |
| 01:03.40 | Shirik | it locks up Lua |
| 01:04.21 | Shizen | o.o |
| 01:04.25 | Shizen | is that Winona Ryder ? |
| 01:05.25 | bleeter | yeah |
| 01:05.55 | Shizen | no wonder |
| 01:08.01 | batrick | shirik works for me |
| 01:08.07 | Shirik | ? |
| 01:08.08 | bleeter | sweet, there's some vids on youtube of Mojo with Jello and the Toadliquors |
| 01:08.19 | batrick | 1e50 ~= 1 in mine |
| 01:08.22 | Shirik | well, yeah |
| 01:08.27 | Shirik | I didn't do 1e50 == 1 |
| 01:08.39 | batrick | what did you do? |
| 01:08.42 | Shirik | I did someComplexFunctionThatComesOutTo1e50 == 1 |
| 01:08.50 | Shizen | ROFL |
| 01:09.00 | Shirik | Well, it's actually not that complex |
| 01:09.11 | Shirik | it's 1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+.... 1e50 times |
| 01:09.19 | Shizen | well 1^50 would be 1 |
| 01:09.19 | Shirik | but apparently that equals 1 |
| 01:09.27 | Shizen | not 1 * 10^50 |
| 01:09.40 | Shirik | lua> assert(loadstring("return "..("1+"):rep(1e50).."1"))() |
| 01:09.40 | lua_bot | Shirik: 151, |
| 01:09.45 | Shirik | oh, now it's 151 |
| 01:09.45 | Shirik | awesome |
| 01:09.46 | Shizen | since 1^50 => 1*1*1*1*1-----> |
| 01:09.53 | Shirik | oh, right, lua_bot chops strings |
| 01:09.56 | Shirik | --> assert(loadstring("return "..("1+"):rep(1e50).."1"))() |
| 01:09.56 | batbot | Shirik: > 1 |
| 01:10.01 | Shizen | see |
| 01:10.04 | Shizen | errr wait |
| 01:10.07 | Shizen | >1 ? |
| 01:10.13 | Shirik | it always puts a > |
| 01:10.15 | Shirik | it's just "1" |
| 01:10.19 | Shizen | oh |
| 01:10.26 | Shirik | and 1e50 is not 1^50 |
| 01:10.29 | Shirik | it's 1*10^50 |
| 01:10.45 | Shizen | it technically is 1*10^50 |
| 01:10.47 | batrick | that's interesting |
| 01:10.51 | Shizen | there's probably some bad implementation in the core ? |
| 01:10.58 | Shirik | It appears to be an optimization thing |
| 01:11.08 | Shirik | Since it's almost instantaneous |
| 01:11.16 | Shirik | while 1e80 takes approximately 20 seconds to calculate for me |
| 01:11.21 | Shizen | check the docs lol |
| 01:11.24 | Shirik | let's see what luac says |
| 01:11.39 | Shizen | well 10^80 would be quite humongous no ? |
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| 01:19.10 | Thunder_Child | ~lart3mis |
| 01:19.11 | purl | ACTION smacks art3mis upside the head just cuz |
| 01:25.43 | Lopeppeppy | Skwerrel? |
| 01:26.27 | batrick | u figure it out shirik? |
| 01:28.09 | Shirik | no, the compiled code looks perfect |
| 01:28.17 | Shirik | it has to be an internal optimization thing |
| 01:28.21 | Shirik | Now sifting through C |
| 01:29.15 | batrick | no i see it |
| 01:29.36 | Shizen | hmmm I'm definitely missing some events here... |
| 01:29.58 | batrick | a = loadstring([[return assert(loadstring("return "..("1+"):rep(1e50).."1"))()]]) |
| 01:30.01 | batrick | print(a()) |
| 01:30.12 | batrick | that prints "1" |
| 01:31.28 | AnduinLothar | patch today, eh? |
| 01:31.35 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 01:31.37 | Thunder_Child | yep |
| 01:31.39 | AnduinLothar | #? |
| 01:31.45 | Lopeppeppy | Baby-patch. |
| 01:31.46 | AnduinLothar | nm |
| 01:31.48 | Thunder_Child | little bit 'o nothin |
| 01:32.04 | AnduinLothar | Character/NPC load times have been decreased, and now should appear faster. You’re not hearing voices, there really are people in Shattrath! |
| 01:32.08 | AnduinLothar | how did they do that.. |
| 01:32.40 | Shirik | batrick: I posted to lua-l |
| 01:32.52 | batrick | ok |
| 01:33.02 | Shirik | see what they have to say |
| 01:33.50 | Lopeppeppy | No people in Shattrath!!!! |
| 01:34.11 | Shirik | unpossible |
| 01:35.11 | Lopeppeppy | Unreceivable! |
| 01:38.17 | batrick | --> return assert(loadstring("return "..("1+"):rep(1e50).."1"))() |
| 01:38.17 | batbot | batrick: > 1 |
| 01:38.21 | batrick | --> return assert(loadstring("return "..("1+"):rep(1e30).."1"))() |
| 01:38.27 | batrick | now that's wierd :) |
| 01:38.27 | batbot | batrick: > maximum execution time/memory exceeded |
| 01:38.57 | Shirik | Did you read my post? |
| 01:39.15 | Shirik | In it I commented that different interpreters seem to have different limits |
| 01:39.57 | Shirik | one of my interpreters says that 1e10 is 1, and then another takes the full time to do the calculation |
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| 01:40.45 | batrick | shirik i see the problem |
| 01:40.49 | Shirik | Do ya? |
| 01:40.57 | Lopeppeppy | Skirrels! |
| 01:40.58 | Shirik | Tell meh tell meh! |
| 01:41.20 | batrick | rep apparently calculates the string length first, if it's too big i guess it returns the empty string |
| 01:41.32 | batrick | which is why it your function returns 1 |
| 01:41.34 | Shirik | ahh |
| 01:42.41 | Shirik | that'll do it |
| 01:42.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Is WoWI running piss slow or is that my connection? |
| 01:43.00 | Shirik | I think I'm going to go eat.... question is do I work on my bot tonight |
| 01:43.27 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: I'm not having any problems |
| 01:43.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: mmkay.. taking 2+ minutes to search is making me sad :/ |
| 01:43.51 | Shirik | search may be a different issue :P |
| 01:43.58 | batrick | you have a bot shirik? |
| 01:44.00 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 01:44.05 | Shirik | robot |
| 01:44.07 | Shirik | not irc bot |
| 01:44.08 | batrick | ah |
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| 01:44.24 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: What search term? |
| 01:44.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: anything. It should be noted that I think my connection is broke. I searched for "ItemRack" and it took a good two minutes to pull up. |
| 01:45.20 | Shirik | yeah it pulled up in less than a half a second for me |
| 01:45.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Mmkay, thanks |
| 01:45.34 | Shirik | also it is totally cool that if there's only one result, it takes you right to that page |
| 01:45.39 | Shirik | I'm still learning the new features ^^ |
| 01:45.58 | Shirik | batrick: Problem is that security gets mad at me if I'm there late, even though I have the key |
| 01:49.35 | Shirik | --> assert(loadstring("return 1^"..("2*"):rep(1e5)..("2*"):rep(1e5).."2"))() |
| 01:49.36 | batbot | Shirik: > inf |
| 01:49.41 | Shirik | strange strange system |
| 01:50.47 | Shirik | oh, stupid order of operations |
| 01:50.51 | Shirik | I need to go eat, I'm losing my mind |
| 01:54.16 | |Jelly| | !c us burning legion nodoomi |
| 01:54.39 | |Jelly| | PEPPY!!! |
| 01:55.08 | Lopeppeppy | Hey, boyo. |
| 01:55.32 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: nodoomi is not the character you are looking for! |
| 01:55.47 | |Jelly| | So my guild decided to let me respec and get there to help summon ... then replace my hunter for Kara. |
| 01:55.57 | |Jelly| | They were going to be nice enough to let my priest go though ... |
| 01:55.57 | Lopeppeppy | Nice. *rolls eyes* |
| 01:56.17 | Shirik | |Jelly|: Drop em, come to me :P |
| 01:56.25 | |Jelly| | Horde |
| 01:57.05 | |Jelly| | oh wait |
| 01:57.08 | |Jelly| | Kimina is horde. |
| 01:57.15 | |Jelly| | ~facepalm |
| 01:57.16 | purl | ACTION facepalms at the situation |
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| 01:58.25 | Lopeppeppy | What am horde? |
| 01:59.10 | Shirik | batrick: The bug appears to be in lua/lstrlib.c:95 |
| 01:59.17 | Shirik | sorry, 96 |
| 01:59.25 | Shirik | Integer conversion problem |
| 01:59.52 | Shirik | int n = luaL_checkint(L, 2); but 1e50 does not fit in an int |
| 02:00.52 | batrick | yup |
| 02:01.25 | batrick | they should use unsigned ints, but then again, you don't even have 1e30 bits in your hard drive, so it reallyd oesn't matter |
| 02:01.36 | batrick | well, unsigned int wouldn't help much either |
| 02:02.07 | Wobwork | batrick: "but then again, you don't even have 1e30 bits in your hard drive, so it reallyd oesn't matter" So... 640K is all anyone should need? |
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| 02:02.25 | widgertick | LUA LUA LUA LUA LUA |
| 02:02.30 | Wobwork | Oi oi oi? |
| 02:02.31 | widgertick | o_o |
| 02:02.44 | widgertick | Aww, krka's bot didn't bite. |
| 02:02.58 | batrick | ... |
| 02:03.07 | widgertick | ~whalestab batrick |
| 02:03.07 | purl | ACTION stabs batrick with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery |
| 02:03.23 | batrick | --> 10e9 * 9 >= 1e30 |
| 02:03.23 | batbot | batrick: > false |
| 02:03.26 | batrick | i win? |
| 02:03.39 | Wobwork | ~win batrick |
| 02:03.39 | purl | Congratulations, batrick! You have won the time-life collection of vintage AOL cd's, a set of 120! |
| 02:03.55 | Shirik | batrick: I think I have the solution |
| 02:04.05 | Shirik | want to test my patch? >< |
| 02:04.08 | Wobwork | ~win Shirik |
| 02:04.09 | purl | Congratulations, Shirik! You have won the time-life collection of vintage AOL cd's, a set of 120! |
| 02:04.14 | batrick | uh ok |
| 02:05.30 | Shirik | I did some crazy bitshift optimization, win |
| 02:05.37 | batrick | begone wobwork spammer filth! |
| 02:06.25 | Thunder_Child | ~bzfrag batrick |
| 02:06.26 | purl | ACTION blindsides batrick with an invisible bullet |
| 02:08.09 | batrick | --> getmetatable(_G), ":)" |
| 02:08.10 | batbot | batrick: > leave this alone, :) |
| 02:08.52 | Lopeppeppy | *snark* |
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| 02:09.35 | Furl | Moo |
| 02:09.53 | Furl | Wow, that topic has win. |
| 02:10.35 | Shirik | batrick: Why is (-1 >> 1) == -1? |
| 02:10.40 | Shirik | Shouldn't it become 01111111 ... ? |
| 02:10.49 | Shirik | or is it an arithmetic shift |
| 02:10.52 | batrick | o god, ur gonna make me think |
| 02:11.03 | Shirik | I want a logical shift =( |
| 02:12.04 | Shirik | nm, got it |
| 02:12.09 | Shirik | it's ugly as hell from casting but I got it |
| 02:13.05 | batrick | when you right shift a negative number the sign bit is preserved |
| 02:13.38 | Shirik | > string.rep("foo", 1e50) |
| 02:13.38 | Shirik | string is too long |
| 02:13.45 | Shirik | yey |
| 02:14.05 | Furl | O.o |
| 02:14.16 | Furl | ."bar" |
| 02:16.34 | Shirik | ok batrick, try out this patch |
| 02:17.45 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/81104 |
| 02:19.07 | _Chloe | How do you set the initial text of a button that inherits UIDropDownMenuTemplate? |
| 02:24.51 | batrick | that's pretty cute |
| 02:25.22 | Shirik | hm? |
| 02:25.41 | batrick | int n = (int) (((unsigned int) -1 ) >> 1) |
| 02:25.42 | batrick | that |
| 02:25.43 | Shirik | haha |
| 02:26.09 | Shirik | I originally did pow(2, 8*sizeof(int)) |
| 02:26.10 | batrick | anyway, i wonder why they use a damn buffer for rep |
| 02:26.16 | batrick | doesn't really make sense |
| 02:26.22 | Shirik | but I didn't like that function call, waste of time |
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| 02:27.26 | batrick | eh, just how they do memory allocation... i was thinking that malloc should be there heh |
| 02:27.28 | Lopeppeppy | Ugh. Enlightening 2 hour conversation with my raid leader. A little. Sometimes. |
| 02:27.30 | kd3 | heh. trevion just keeps digging himself deeper in the /castsequence thread |
| 02:27.53 | Shirik | he's still in there? |
| 02:27.56 | Shirik | why. |
| 02:28.06 | Furl | kd3: Your sig is misspelled. |
| 02:28.12 | Furl | [Shaddup] |
| 02:28.20 | kd3 | dunno. but I'm glad mal's doing his thing and quoting all of his posts |
| 02:28.24 | kd3 | huh? |
| 02:28.49 | Furl | "MIIILION" |
| 02:28.53 | Furl | Two 'L's |
| 02:29.04 | kd3 | crap |
| 02:29.08 | Furl | Har |
| 02:29.16 | Lopeppeppy | Trevion is the win. |
| 02:30.40 | Lopeppeppy | I want to hug him and pet him an name him George and... hey, bunnies don't have bills! |
| 02:31.05 | Shirik | batrick: So does it work for you though? |
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| 02:31.12 | batrick | didn't try it, looks fine though |
| 02:31.29 | batrick | i dunno if it's portable tho |
| 02:31.38 | Shirik | I think it should be |
| 02:31.59 | Shirik | I guess it assumes two's compliment |
| 02:32.12 | batrick | there are easier ways to calculate that i think |
| 02:32.22 | batrick | err, the max int |
| 02:33.41 | Thunder_Child | purl hates the channel |
| 02:34.01 | Thunder_Child | odd |
| 02:34.06 | Furl | purl, TC? |
| 02:34.07 | purl | well, tc is Top Cat,Turbo C. Traffic Control, A program for defining QoS rules in 2.4 |
| 02:34.50 | Shirik | Turbo C is EVIL |
| 02:34.52 | Shirik | EVIL EVIL EVIL |
| 02:35.25 | Duman | hmm |
| 02:35.37 | Duman | how come I can't see some of the new sticky posts |
| 02:35.39 | Duman | weird |
| 02:35.51 | Duman | I mean, if someone links to them, I see them |
| 02:35.57 | Duman | but I odn't see them in the list of stickies |
| 02:35.58 | kd3 | people were complaining about that on the PTR forum |
| 02:36.08 | Duman | yeah I don't see them on the PTR and Bug Report forums |
| 02:36.16 | Duman | even tried w/ a different browser |
| 02:36.22 | |Jelly| | What's the email for ZOMG MY ACCOUNT GOT HAXXORED? accounts@blizzard.com? |
| 02:36.25 | Duman | tried logging in/out |
| 02:36.28 | Duman | err out/in :-) |
| 02:36.41 | Duman | jelly: sounds reasonable... check CSF |
| 02:36.48 | batrick | shirik |
| 02:36.51 | batrick | INT_MAX |
| 02:36.52 | Duman | (Customer Service Forum) |
| 02:36.55 | batrick | use that :) |
| 02:37.08 | Furl | Jelly, what happened? |
| 02:37.13 | Shirik | hm |
| 02:37.16 | Shirik | oh well, I already posted to lua-l |
| 02:37.18 | Shirik | hehe |
| 02:37.21 | Furl | Your account got HAXXORED, I presume? |
| 02:37.22 | |Jelly| | Some guy logged on in my guild and is like "Umm...wtf?" |
| 02:37.37 | Furl | Oh, someone else's, that's better. |
| 02:37.39 | Duman | heh |
| 02:37.56 | Furl | [Know a friend who had the same deal -- Don't we all?] |
| 02:38.04 | batrick | --> ("a"):rep(2^32+2) |
| 02:38.04 | batbot | batrick: > aa |
| 02:38.06 | batrick | madness! |
| 02:38.46 | Furl | Heh. |
| 02:38.57 | Duman | weird, I can see the stickies if I use another computer |
| 02:39.04 | Duman | Whiskey Tango Foxtrot |
| 02:39.15 | Duman | lemme try blasting my cache |
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| 02:39.39 | Duman | nope |
| 02:39.40 | Duman | weird |
| 02:39.54 | Duman | they must be doing some sort of jacked up server-sice caching based on IP or something |
| 02:39.59 | Duman | s/sice/side |
| 02:40.16 | Furl | batrick: is that a loop around? |
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| 02:40.20 | Furl | That's nice. |
| 02:40.34 | Shirik | Furl: It's because string.rep() uses an unsafe conversion from double to integer |
| 02:40.49 | Furl | Ah. |
| 02:41.03 | Shirik | Patch! http://wowi.pastey.net/81104 |
| 02:41.03 | Shirik | :D |
| 02:41.12 | Furl | ...Why? |
| 02:41.31 | Shirik | why patch? No I'm just saying this is the patch I wrote :P |
| 02:41.42 | Furl | As in why double to int? |
| 02:41.58 | Shirik | oh, well Lua stores all numbers in doubles |
| 02:42.10 | Shirik | the fact that it unsafely converts to an integer is what I would consider to be a bug |
| 02:42.18 | Furl | Ah... |
| 02:42.32 | batrick | exsploits |
| 02:43.28 | Shirik | You know batrick I agree with you |
| 02:43.31 | Shirik | lua_Buffer is being lazy there |
| 02:43.45 | Furl | Meh, has its positives and negatives. |
| 02:43.48 | Furl | [lolpun] |
| 02:43.55 | Shirik | >< |
| 02:45.25 | Shirik | luaL_Buffer doesn't even resolve the one problem I thought they might have |
| 02:45.32 | Shirik | that is, null characters |
| 02:45.44 | Furl | ? |
| 02:45.47 | Thunder_Child | why is the queue back? why why?? |
| 02:48.50 | Esamynn|Work | Thunder_Child: because Blizzard hates you |
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| 02:50.06 | Furl | I'm glad I'm on a relatively medium popuation server. |
| 02:50.11 | Shirik | Dpes |
| 02:50.14 | Shirik | Does "sizeof" exist in C? |
| 02:50.25 | Shirik | or am I confusing C++ again? |
| 02:51.22 | Shirik | ah *@#(%@# |
| 02:51.29 | Shirik | C doesn't let you declare variables in the middle of a function |
| 02:51.32 | Shirik | I always forget this |
| 02:51.35 | Esamynn|Work | lol |
| 02:51.40 | Furl | lol@jo |
| 02:51.43 | Furl | jo? |
| 02:51.44 | Furl | io? |
| 02:51.48 | Furl | yo? |
| 02:51.57 | Furl | :( |
| 02:52.00 | Furl | I laughed at myself. |
| 02:52.01 | Esamynn|Work | ~cheeseslap Furl |
| 02:52.02 | purl | ACTION slaps Furl around with a slice of rocquefort |
| 02:52.24 | Furl | ^That lad knows what he's doing. |
| 02:52.38 | Shirik | Windows has triggered a breakpoint in lua513rc5.exe. This may be due to a corruption of the heap, which indicates a bug in lua513rc5.exe or any of the DLLs it has loaded. |
| 02:52.39 | Shirik | Yey! |
| 02:52.59 | Furl | Woooot. |
| 02:53.03 | Shirik | oh, I hit ignore a few times and now windows is pissed |
| 02:53.10 | Furl | You got owned. |
| 02:53.17 | Thunder_Child | ~whaleslap Esamynn|Work |
| 02:53.18 | purl | ACTION beats Esamynn|Work upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 02:53.26 | Thunder_Child | ~fry Esamynn|Work |
| 02:53.27 | purl | ACTION grabs Esamynn|Work and fries him on his BFCooker9000 |
| 02:53.33 | Furl | ~nuke channel |
| 02:53.34 | purl | ACTION prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at channel ... B☢☢M! |
| 02:53.42 | Esamynn|Work | ~whaleparry Thunder_Child |
| 02:53.42 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry Thunder_Child's attacks. |
| 02:53.51 | Thunder_Child | ~whalenuke Esamynn|Work |
| 02:53.52 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Esamynn|Work with his mind powers. |
| 02:53.55 | Shirik | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/5f3bd7018f8e0c17a8eb38b05ac0c703.jpg |
| 02:53.57 | Esamynn|Work | ~whaleshield |
| 02:53.58 | purl | ACTION summons a rather dense leaden whale named Billy Bob to shield esamynn|work from the blast. |
| 02:54.05 | Shirik | Doesn't that just stand out like "You need to die. Now." |
| 02:54.08 | Esamynn|Work | ~bzfrag Thunder_Child |
| 02:54.09 | purl | ACTION makes Thunder_Child feel the effects of a shockwave |
| 02:54.14 | Thunder_Child | ~shield |
| 02:54.14 | purl | ACTION turns into shield and protects master |
| 02:54.29 | Furl | purl, vista? |
| 02:54.30 | purl | vista is probably just lame. :) |
| 02:54.30 | Esamynn|Work | ~poke Thunder_Child |
| 02:54.31 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Thunder_Child, pokes Thunder_Child repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 02:54.42 | Thunder_Child | ~dodge Esamynn|Work |
| 02:54.49 | Thunder_Child | ~parry Esamynn|Work |
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| 02:54.55 | Thunder_Child | ~avoid Esamynn|Work |
| 02:54.59 | Thunder_Child | common purl |
| 02:55.01 | Esamynn|Work | ~fail Thunder_Child |
| 02:55.01 | purl | Thunder_Child: Fail. |
| 02:55.06 | Esamynn|Work | ~botsnack |
| 02:55.06 | purl | Esamynn|Work: :) |
| 02:55.13 | Shirik | whoopsie |
| 02:55.14 | Esamynn|Work | Thunder_Child: I win :P |
| 02:55.21 | Shirik | definitely did not allocate a big enough buffer; surprised that did not segfault |
| 02:55.22 | Furl | ~halp |
| 02:55.26 | Furl | ~help |
| 02:55.28 | Thunder_Child | you win this time..HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! |
| 02:55.46 | Thunder_Child | ~hide |
| 02:55.46 | purl | ACTION runs away to shelter. |
| 02:55.46 | Esamynn|Work | Thunder_Child: when have you EVER beaten me in a bot war? :P |
| 02:55.53 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn|Work, yes |
| 02:56.04 | Furl | Heh. |
| 02:56.04 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn|Work, ummm...the last time i beat you |
| 02:56.15 | Thunder_Child | ~rape Esamynn|Work |
| 02:56.15 | purl | ACTION takes Esamynn|Work behind the WallMart and makes a few grunts and screams |
| 02:56.22 | Esamynn|Work | ~fishslap Thunder_Child |
| 02:56.22 | purl | ACTION slaps Thunder_Child up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 02:56.25 | Esamynn|Work | ~lart Thunder_Child |
| 02:56.25 | purl | smacks Thunder_Child up side the head with a clue-by-4 |
| 02:56.26 | Shirik | There you go batrick, wrote a version without luaL_Buffer |
| 02:56.37 | Thunder_Child | ~snare Esamynn|Work |
| 02:56.40 | Thunder_Child | ~slay Esamynn|Work |
| 02:56.41 | purl | ACTION brandishes Excalibur! "With this sword, I vanquish thee, Esamynn|Work!" apt lops off Esamynn|Work's head. |
| 02:56.49 | Esamynn|Work | now you're just grasping :P |
| 02:56.50 | Thunder_Child | ~destroy Esamynn|Work |
| 02:56.50 | purl | no |
| 02:56.55 | Esamynn|Work | ~botsnack |
| 02:56.55 | purl | Esamynn|Work: thanks |
| 02:57.00 | Thunder_Child | ~obliterate Esamynn|Work |
| 02:57.03 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/81106 |
| 02:57.29 | Thunder_Child | laters Esamynn|Away |
| 02:57.36 | Shirik | I had to use malloc instead of new |
| 02:57.40 | Shirik | It made me feel all dirty |
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| 03:11.56 | Cidan | malloc is great Shirik |
| 03:11.59 | Cidan | quit being a pussy |
| 03:12.00 | Cidan | lol |
| 03:12.04 | Shirik | die |
| 03:12.10 | Shirik | malloc is for overriding the new operator |
| 03:12.33 | Cidan | I love C. D: |
| 03:12.47 | Shirik | C++ decimates puny C |
| 03:13.20 | Cidan | Eh, I prefer C++ for its class system obviously |
| 03:13.40 | Cidan | but outside of that, nothing much else |
| 03:14.06 | Cidan | malloc/free = <3 |
| 03:14.20 | batrick | eat shit shirik u c++ loving oaf |
| 03:14.25 | Cidan | Just l2code and you won't have any issues. |
| 03:14.28 | Shirik | haha |
| 03:14.32 | Cidan | lol |
| 03:14.34 | Shirik | Hey, I wrote you a patch |
| 03:14.40 | batrick | i didn't need/use it! |
| 03:14.45 | batrick | it was ur bug remember? |
| 03:14.48 | Shirik | don't be mad or I might accidentally code a buffer overflow in it |
| 03:14.50 | Shirik | No, it was yours |
| 03:14.55 | batrick | sif |
| 03:14.57 | Shirik | You didn't like the use of luaL_buffer |
| 03:15.01 | Shirik | So I got rid of it :) |
| 03:15.13 | batrick | u should aused lua_Alloc |
| 03:15.16 | batrick | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:17.11 | Shirik | meh |
| 03:17.13 | Shirik | no difference |
| 03:17.37 | batrick | strcpy is bad too |
| 03:17.39 | Furl | hex 1337 |
| 03:17.44 | Furl | ~hex 1337 |
| 03:17.44 | purl | 1337 is 31 33 33 37 |
| 03:18.10 | Cidan | why is strcpy bad? |
| 03:18.10 | Shirik | strcpy is bad? |
| 03:18.20 | batrick | ya because of \0 |
| 03:18.24 | Shirik | oh |
| 03:18.27 | Shirik | I mentioned that actually |
| 03:18.29 | Cidan | only if you have it there. |
| 03:18.40 | Shirik | I wasn't going to use it, but then I checked the original string.rep |
| 03:18.46 | Shirik | and string.rep ALREADY has issues with \0 |
| 03:18.51 | Shirik | so I didn't bother to mess with it |
| 03:19.00 | Shirik | --> return string.rep("fo\0o", 3) |
| 03:19.01 | batbot | Shirik: > fo\0ofo\0ofo\0o |
| 03:19.04 | Shirik | wtf? |
| 03:19.07 | Shirik | Okay, mine does! |
| 03:19.20 | Shirik | Fine then, I'll fix that. |
| 03:19.31 | batrick | bbl |
| 03:19.39 | Shirik | don't you go anywhere!~ |
| 03:19.52 | Shirik | Be all like "Ha your code sucks" then I'm like "I'll fix it" and you're like "/vanish" |
| 03:21.44 | Cidan | dunno why so many people have issues with memory and c |
| 03:21.53 | Cidan | it's pretty much baby steps the whole way |
| 03:22.09 | Shirik | I don't have issues :) I just dislike malloc because I'm a C++ guy |
| 03:22.24 | Cidan | not you |
| 03:22.27 | Cidan | people in general |
| 03:22.48 | Cidan | OH NOES BUFFER OVARFLOOWWWW |
| 03:22.58 | Thunder_Child | "(19:22:21) (@Shirik) I don't have issues :)" i call BS |
| 03:23.01 | Cidan | bleh, back to setting up this new server, D: |
| 03:23.13 | Shirik | Windows got pissed at my buffer overflow a few seconds ago |
| 03:23.31 | Shirik | Cidan: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/5f3bd7018f8e0c17a8eb38b05ac0c703.jpg |
| 03:23.33 | Cidan | buffer overflows should be a NULL problem. |
| 03:23.35 | Shirik | Doesn't that look severely pissed off? |
| 03:24.47 | Cidan | hm |
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| 03:27.27 | Shirik | there you go batrick, no strcpy, no strcat, \0s work |
| 03:29.24 | Furl | ~please? |
| 03:29.25 | purl | Do I look like an information bitch, furl? |
| 03:31.22 | Shirik | > =string.format("%q", string.rep("fo\0o", 10)) |
| 03:31.22 | Shirik | "fo\000ofo\000ofo\000ofo\000ofo\000ofo\000ofo\000ofo\000ofo\000ofo\000o" |
| 03:32.30 | Shirik | Code: Be aware! Manual memory manipulation inbound! http://wowi.pastey.net/81109 |
| 03:32.45 | Shirik | I especially liked my modular arithmetic |
| 03:33.08 | Furl | Lol nice. |
| 03:33.30 | Shirik | I actually think this might be quite a bit faster than Lua's version... |
| 03:33.35 | Shirik | I should time it |
| 03:35.30 | Furl | Now you can say lolololololololololo . . . , and say it fast? |
| 03:35.58 | Shirik | yes. |
| 03:39.26 | Cidan | What is this you're working on anyways? |
| 03:41.15 | Shirik | Lua |
| 03:41.25 | Shirik | it started with providing a patch for a bug I found today |
| 03:41.42 | Cidan | neat |
| 03:41.44 | Shirik | it ended with batrick complaining about Lua's method of memory allocation for string.rep() and me providing a way around it |
| 03:42.02 | Shirik | I do have to admit, they were being a bit lazy when they wrote it |
| 03:42.11 | Cidan | lol? |
| 03:42.25 | Cidan | YOU have to admit? Mate, I'm not quite sure that you get to admit anything |
| 03:42.31 | Cidan | I think that's their job |
| 03:42.34 | Shirik | heh |
| 03:43.29 | Cidan | I've taken quite an interest in metaphysics as of late though |
| 03:44.07 | Furl | Bad idea. |
| 03:44.16 | Cidan | psh, unrelated but fun. |
| 03:44.21 | Cidan | fun to study anyways |
| 03:44.32 | Thunder_Child | meta-physics....an oxymoron in many ways |
| 03:44.33 | Shirik | --> os.clock() |
| 03:44.33 | batbot | Shirik: > 5.37 |
| 03:46.08 | Cidan | but at the same time I've taken interest in the other end of the spectrum, astrophysics |
| 03:46.11 | Cidan | sigh |
| 03:46.15 | Cidan | I wish I could live forever |
| 03:46.21 | Cidan | just so I had time to learn... well, everything. |
| 03:46.25 | Wobwork | Who wants to live forever? |
| 03:46.34 | Shirik | I do |
| 03:46.35 | Cidan | I... do? |
| 03:46.39 | Cidan | lol |
| 03:47.03 | Wobwork | And! |
| 03:47.09 | Thunder_Child | heh, i have a cousin that has a degree in it, he calls it a joke |
| 03:47.09 | Furl | I want to permeate yself onto an image, so that I may exist forever, but not suffer the torment of time. |
| 03:47.16 | Cidan | in what? |
| 03:47.20 | Cidan | metaphysics? |
| 03:47.20 | Wobwork | I can finally start working on the project I was intending to do! |
| 03:47.24 | Wobwork | (today) |
| 03:47.26 | Thunder_Child | astrophysics |
| 03:47.28 | Wobwork | and it's 2:45pm |
| 03:47.29 | Cidan | lol? |
| 03:47.34 | Cidan | a joke, wut? |
| 03:47.34 | Wobwork | rarar |
| 03:47.37 | Thunder_Child | his primary is particle physics |
| 03:48.01 | Wobwork | Furlian Grey? |
| 03:48.05 | Thunder_Child | i dunno exactly, but something about mostly theory |
| 03:48.15 | Thunder_Child | vs practical aplication |
| 03:48.21 | Shirik | hm |
| 03:48.25 | Shirik | actually, apparently my version is slower |
| 03:48.30 | Shirik | oh I know why |
| 03:48.34 | Cidan | well I think Shirik would benefit from such a degree, imo. |
| 03:48.40 | Shirik | degree? |
| 03:49.19 | Cidan | little thing of paper? says you withstood hours of torture? |
| 03:49.35 | Cidan | Some people put it in a picture frame, etc. |
| 03:49.43 | Cidan | Interesting subject, actually. |
| 03:50.11 | Thunder_Child | i never understood that picture frame thing |
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| 03:50.30 | Thunder_Child | you know you have it, so the only reason to have it up is vanity |
| 03:50.48 | Thunder_Child | people and their stupid "wall of me" |
| 03:50.55 | Cidan | Agreed. |
| 03:52.06 | Thunder_Child | grrr, i want someone to hand me 7 levels... |
| 03:52.43 | Furl | Hmm? |
| 03:52.53 | Furl | I want to hit 58 with my human alread. |
| 03:52.54 | Furl | y |
| 03:52.57 | Thunder_Child | i just want to *be* 58 |
| 03:53.18 | AnduinLothar | 58 twink? |
| 03:53.33 | Furl | Lol. |
| 03:53.38 | Furl | 7 levels... |
| 03:53.46 | Furl | 33? |
| 03:53.50 | Thunder_Child | no, outland twink |
| 03:54.01 | Furl | Ah. . . |
| 03:54.12 | Thunder_Child | i am 51 |
| 03:54.21 | Thunder_Child | i dont feel like leveling to 58 |
| 03:54.33 | Cidan | 50-58 is the pits |
| 03:54.43 | Cidan | by far the worst leveling range. |
| 03:55.13 | NightHawkTheSane | really? |
| 03:55.18 | NightHawkTheSane | 50-58 was a breeeeze for me |
| 03:55.18 | Thunder_Child | ya |
| 03:55.18 | Shirik | it really is |
| 03:55.27 | NightHawkTheSane | I found 40-50 to be the worst |
| 03:55.33 | Thunder_Child | esp now that no one is around thoes areas |
| 03:55.36 | Thunder_Child | anymore |
| 03:55.40 | Furl | 40-50 is easy imo. |
| 03:55.41 | Cidan | ya well |
| 03:55.44 | Furl | 50-55 is horrid. |
| 03:55.47 | Cidan | when the exp pack comes out |
| 03:56.07 | Cidan | EVERYONE AND THEIR MOTHER will be a PEW PEW PEW IM DARK LIKE SEPHIROTH KOOOOOOL Deathknight, etc. |
| 03:56.16 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ |
| 03:56.27 | Cidan | So don't worry about leveling. |
| 03:56.38 | Cidan | Soon you will see all Deathknight raids, and so on. |
| 03:56.38 | NightHawkTheSane | "Tank lfm <insert instance here>" :P |
| 03:56.44 | Thunder_Child | but deathnight isnt MAD DPS!!! |
| 03:56.51 | Cidan | Doesn't matter |
| 03:56.54 | Cidan | It's just too cool. |
| 03:57.00 | Thunder_Child | does if you want a DPS char |
| 03:57.04 | Cidan | Nope |
| 03:57.09 | Thunder_Child | yep |
| 03:57.09 | Cidan | Everyone will be DK. |
| 03:57.15 | NightHawkTheSane | everyone. |
| 03:57.16 | NightHawkTheSane | even you |
| 03:57.16 | Cidan | Not just that |
| 03:57.23 | Thunder_Child | i will get one, but not stop leveling this one |
| 03:58.01 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm debating if i want to finish leveling my mage before the expansion |
| 03:58.11 | Cidan | But everyone is going to be bad-ass. They are going to be evil, silent, look as "evil" as possible, even if this means wearing level 20 equipment. |
| 03:58.36 | NightHawkTheSane | Cidan: fuck that, i'll wear a clown suit if it's better gear ;) |
| 03:58.39 | Cidan | However, here's to hoping WotLK won't fsck the game up as much as BC did. |
| 03:58.47 | NightHawkTheSane | (hell, on a DK, i'd wear a clown suit just for the humor) |
| 03:59.00 | NightHawkTheSane | Cidan: what do do you mean by fuck the game up, though? |
| 03:59.17 | Cidan | on a DK, I'd wear the Scarlet Monastery set. |
| 03:59.34 | NightHawkTheSane | ooh.. nice/. |
| 04:00.04 | Cidan | Uhm, BC killed PvP, it's ugly as all hell; the "hub" city looks like it was made out of mud. There is no sense of upkeep. |
| 04:00.16 | NightHawkTheSane | ah, okay |
| 04:00.30 | Cidan | What else... the story is idiotic; the instances were made first and THEN a story was written. |
| 04:00.33 | NightHawkTheSane | those are fair points, i just wanted to be clear on what the points were :P |
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| 04:01.11 | Thunder_Child | the worst are those people that cant enjoy the game as just the game |
| 04:01.15 | Cidan | Oh and the fact that WoW has added pretty much no new things to do, just more of the same old things. No advanced crafting system, no housing, no social aspect outside of guilds. |
| 04:01.17 | Thunder_Child | they have to read other things into it |
| 04:01.37 | Cidan | Shit, they just NOW added guild banks after what, 2 years? |
| 04:01.44 | Thunder_Child | a house isnt practical |
| 04:01.50 | NightHawkTheSane | 2 years? the game's been out longer than that :P |
| 04:02.05 | Cidan | well whenever they added guild banks, more than 2 years I guess. |
| 04:02.17 | Cidan | Housing works just fine, and it's god damned fun too. lol. |
| 04:02.26 | Cidan | Every single other major MMO has it, and I miss it, D: |
| 04:02.32 | NightHawkTheSane | muds have had player housing since the dawn of time |
| 04:02.35 | Thunder_Child | i said ISNT PRACTICAL not doesnt work |
| 04:02.45 | Cidan | Why wouldn't it be practical? |
| 04:02.52 | Thunder_Child | it doesnt do anything |
| 04:02.57 | Cidan | It's fun. |
| 04:03.00 | Cidan | For the players. |
| 04:03.04 | Thunder_Child | thats fine, but not practical |
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| 04:03.25 | Cidan | You mean it's not practical in the sense of helping you level/get equipment/honor? |
| 04:03.40 | Thunder_Child | of anything other than fun |
| 04:03.48 | Cidan | Right, so it's what I said. |
| 04:04.18 | Cidan | In that case, fuck it; why bother? Let's just make everyone a single class (Whoops, Deathknight!) and put everyone in an arena and have them PvP and... oh wait. |
| 04:04.23 | Thunder_Child | and "fun" being iffy as well |
| 04:04.30 | Cidan | Perhaps for you |
| 04:04.40 | Cidan | But don't go so far as to define what is fun for other people. |
| 04:04.40 | Thunder_Child | i dunno, i have never played with them |
| 04:05.03 | Cidan | I would kill a gnome for housing. |
| 04:05.22 | Thunder_Child | i would kill a gnome for fun, does that count? |
| 04:05.31 | Cidan | Indeed. |
| 04:05.59 | Thunder_Child | i never did understand obsessions for gnomes |
| 04:06.24 | Cidan | It's not even that hard, Blizzard are being a bunch of fsckers really. During my time away from WoW I played EQ2 for a bit. Their game it self is sort of meh, but the social systems? They're a fucking blast. |
| 04:07.07 | Cidan | The crafting system is complex, you actually have to learn languages, drinking alcohol is a *god damned skill* you have to get better at. |
| 04:07.17 | Thunder_Child | yup |
| 04:07.31 | Thunder_Child | played EQ back in the day |
| 04:08.01 | Cidan | It really rocks the shit out of WoW in that sense; and that's the problem. EVERY game rocks the shit out of WoW when it comes to the social aspects. |
| 04:08.16 | Thunder_Child | i didnt play the game to be social |
| 04:08.26 | Cidan | Blizzard runs around yelling WOOO 10 MILLION PLAYERS, with what was it? 5.5 million in Asia? |
| 04:08.29 | Cidan | Give me a break. |
| 04:08.30 | Shirik | gah, I haven't played tohou in like |
| 04:08.36 | Shirik | 2 months |
| 04:08.40 | Shirik | and I suck at it again |
| 04:08.49 | Tain | I still think everyone's missed the boat since Anarchy Online when it comes to the chat system. AO used to let you log into chat (tell/guild/etc.) from a website without being in the game itself. |
| 04:09.00 | Cidan | That rocks. |
| 04:09.39 | Thunder_Child | maybe for guild, but do you really want EVERYONE able to talk in barens from wherever?? |
| 04:10.03 | NightHawkTheSane | Tain: i've seen mmos that have actual irc proxies for chat |
| 04:10.03 | Wobwork | omg |
| 04:10.04 | Tain | Not general chat, but being able to participate in guild chat and private tells was fantastic. |
| 04:10.11 | Wobwork | whar iz mankriks' wife? |
| 04:10.19 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 04:10.22 | Cidan | Global chat works really well in EQ2, don't see why it would be an issue in WoW. Granted, EQ2 tends to have a much more mature player base. |
| 04:10.31 | Wobwork | I recall doing something like that for my MUD |
| 04:10.37 | Cidan | As did I |
| 04:10.44 | Thunder_Child | Cidan, thats because all of the morons came here |
| 04:10.55 | Wobwork | except the web api forgot to take into consideration the security level of the person using it |
| 04:11.05 | Tain | EQ2 doesn't have a more mature player base, it has a more soul-crushed player base. |
| 04:11.05 | Wobwork | so I was able to peek into all sorts of interesting channels =P |
| 04:11.06 | Cidan | when I started to convert the MUD I ran to mysql, I put everything on the web, including an admin console |
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| 04:19.19 | TC-Holding | anyone know a program for copying an active OS to another drive? |
| 04:19.36 | Cidan | dd |
| 04:19.37 | Cidan | :P |
| 04:20.01 | Cidan | the OS is just a bunch of files, you just have to change the MBR |
| 04:20.19 | TC-Holding | but you cant copy in use system files |
| 04:20.26 | Cidan | sure you can |
| 04:20.27 | Wobwork | By 'active' do you mean the current one? |
| 04:20.30 | Cidan | just can't move them |
| 04:20.46 | Cidan | you could also use a linux boot cd, and use dd |
| 04:20.50 | Cidan | dd will do a 1:1 copy |
| 04:20.54 | Wobwork | That would be the easiest |
| 04:20.57 | Shirik | partition magic |
| 04:21.04 | Shirik | norton ghost |
| 04:21.09 | Shirik | there are a million things you can do |
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| 04:21.25 | Wobwork | But only a few of them are the correct ways =) |
| 04:21.29 | Thunder_Child | i have used ghost, that wont work really |
| 04:21.40 | Thunder_Child | partition magic doesnt iirc |
| 04:21.47 | Shirik | sure it does, I've used it for that before |
| 04:21.54 | Shirik | both of them do |
| 04:26.25 | Thunder_Child | http://www.tshirthell.com/miscpages/nsn/newshirt_012108_news.htm |
| 04:27.59 | Wobwork | I like the irish one |
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| 04:35.01 | Shirik | Shadowed, I feel obligated to point out that your statement that Java 5.0 is also known as Java 1.5 is technically wrong :P Sun has repeatedly stated that it's Java 5, not Java 1.5, despite their earlier naming convention |
| 04:35.04 | Shirik | But I'm being picky |
| 04:35.14 | Shadowed | Shirik: screw them it's 1.5 |
| 04:35.18 | Shirik | lol |
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| 04:39.09 | End | Shirik: I suspect if you look, you'll fine somewhere where Sun has called it 1.5 |
| 04:39.19 | End | find* |
| 04:39.36 | batrick | shirik |
| 04:39.41 | batrick | learn to start a new block imo |
| 04:39.54 | batrick | { } == do end |
| 04:39.55 | Shirik | block? |
| 04:40.20 | batrick | you were complaining about putting allocations at the beginning of the function |
| 04:40.27 | batrick | in other news, the joker is dead |
| 04:40.34 | batrick | heath ledger overdosed |
| 04:40.34 | batrick | gg |
| 04:41.12 | Shirik | oh, you can do that? |
| 04:41.14 | batrick | yes |
| 04:41.15 | Shirik | huh |
| 04:41.18 | Shirik | C is strange |
| 04:41.23 | batrick | nope |
| 04:41.26 | batrick | u r |
| 04:41.30 | batrick | batbot: amirite? |
| 04:41.30 | batbot | batrick, Without a doubt. |
| 04:41.38 | Shirik | batbot: amirite? |
| 04:41.39 | batbot | Shirik, No. |
| 04:41.41 | Shirik | =( |
| 04:41.44 | batrick | smashT |
| 04:41.47 | Shirik | You totally hardcoded that |
| 04:41.51 | batrick | lies |
| 04:41.55 | batrick | batbot: amirite? |
| 04:41.56 | batbot | batrick, Keep dreaming. |
| 04:41.56 | batrick | batbot: amirite? |
| 04:41.56 | batbot | batrick, My sources say no. |
| 04:41.57 | batrick | batbot: amirite? |
| 04:41.57 | batbot | batrick, As I see it, yes. |
| 04:41.57 | batrick | batbot: amirite? |
| 04:42.04 | batrick | don't ignoreme batbot :( |
| 04:43.57 | osmodiar | heh, outsmarted by a bot |
| 04:44.41 | End | batbot: amirite? |
| 04:44.41 | batbot | End, Keep dreaming. |
| 04:44.45 | End | ok |
| 04:44.53 | End | if you insist |
| 04:45.21 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, partition magic no worky on vista |
| 04:45.34 | Shirik | oh I meant out of OS :P |
| 04:45.36 | Shirik | boot to it |
| 04:46.34 | Thunder_Child | oh |
| 04:46.35 | End | wow, Sun is goofy |
| 04:46.42 | End | Shirik: when it comes to java, are you a developer? |
| 04:46.45 | End | if so, call it 1.5 |
| 04:46.48 | End | if not, call it 5.0 |
| 04:47.04 | Shirik | If I asked for the Java 1.5 SDK, I would get yelled at because it does not exist |
| 04:47.06 | End | (or just 5 or whatever) |
| 04:47.06 | Shirik | the Java 5 SDK exists |
| 04:47.10 | Shirik | as does the Java 6 SDK |
| 04:47.18 | Shirik | the Java 1.4 SDK also exists |
| 04:47.21 | End | java version "1.5.0_13-p7" |
| 04:47.30 | End | it's called 1.5 if you are a developer |
| 04:47.46 | End | that's pretty much what http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/relnotes/version-5.0.html says |
| 04:47.56 | End | you'll notice it says 1.5.0 -and- 5.0 in that url :P |
| 04:48.15 | End | and if you ask java what version it is, it'll say 1.5 |
| 04:48.23 | End | unless you are running a newer version |
| 04:48.24 | batrick | java is the devil |
| 04:48.29 | End | then it'll say 1.6 or whatever |
| 04:48.37 | batrick | it's for script kiddies and cs majors |
| 04:48.52 | End | on my windows box: |
| 04:48.53 | End | java version "1.6.0_03" |
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| 04:53.03 | Shirik | die |
| 04:53.39 | Thunder_Child | ~die |
| 04:53.40 | purl | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 04:54.55 | batrick | ~hate |
| 04:54.56 | purl | ,,|, |
| 04:55.41 | End | ~waffles |
| 04:55.42 | purl | make waffles && make syrup && fork(waffles) |
| 04:56.27 | batrick | batbot: is purl f@t? |
| 04:56.27 | batbot | batrick, Very doubtful. |
| 04:57.47 | batrick | !quote shirik dislike |
| 04:57.47 | batbot | batrick, shirik said: "I don't have issues :) I just dislike malloc because I'm a C++ guy". |
| 04:57.51 | batrick | ... worthless |
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| 05:02.07 | Auraan | ~sex |
| 05:02.08 | purl | updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; apt-get install condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; apt-get remove --purge condom; make clean; sleep, or super extractor, http://sf.net/projects/sex/ |
| 05:03.45 | Shirik | that was odd |
| 05:04.50 | Wobwork | odd? |
| 05:04.58 | Shirik | Auraan |
| 05:05.10 | Wobwork | drive by ~sexing |
| 05:05.39 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> #wowi-lounge: Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.3.x ToC: 20300 | "still doesn't satisfy me :|" - Shizen |
| 05:05.58 | MentalPower|Gone | that be my doing |
| 05:06.15 | MentalPower|Gone | I wanted to show that to a friend |
| 05:08.48 | Cairenn | MentalPower|Gone does drive-by sexing? hope he's driving by here! |
| 05:08.58 | batrick | whoa |
| 05:09.04 | MentalPower|Gone | lol! |
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| 05:15.05 | Tain | I'm having some Haagen Dazs Cinnamon Dulce de Leche ice cream. And it is de-f'n-licious. |
| 05:15.36 | Cairenn | "cinnamon" dulce de leche? that's an interesting combination |
| 05:15.57 | MentalPower|Gone | very interesting combination |
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| 05:23.01 | Shirik | lol, I like this assignment my professor gave me. |
| 05:23.16 | Shirik | It asks you to calculate a bunch of things, and then at the end it says this |
| 05:23.37 | Shirik | "If you can't get your program to work, at least do the following: <provides 3 equations>. If you want to hard code them and use if statements, be my guest, but make it work." |
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| 05:27.19 | batrick | wish i'd get some cool programming assignments : / |
| 05:27.33 | batrick | my algorithms teacher is terrible |
| 05:27.38 | batrick | she drones and is incoherent |
| 05:27.50 | Shirik | this is not cool programming assignment |
| 05:27.51 | batrick | and doesn't care about implementation |
| 05:28.01 | batrick | o well |
| 05:28.04 | Shirik | I just laugh at how he tries to appease the AE guys by not having them code |
| 05:28.08 | Shirik | and just saying "here write this code" |
| 05:28.37 | Shirik | ok I'm going to go to mcdonalds I think |
| 05:28.43 | Shirik | bblz |
| 05:30.35 | cogwheel | why do i have so much fun randomly inviting banker toons into <Banker Toons>? |
| 05:31.46 | NightHawkTheSane | banker toons? I hardly know her toons! |
| 05:32.21 | cogwheel | all /me has to say is ... inspector gadget |
| 05:32.43 | NightHawkTheSane | ... too easy ;) |
| 05:33.03 | Thunder_Child | ~lart NightHawkTheSane |
| 05:33.03 | purl | keeps mailing NightHawkTheSane free America Online CDs until he drowns |
| 05:33.11 | cogwheel | ~pun Thunder_Child |
| 05:33.20 | cogwheel | meh... shot in the dark |
| 05:33.23 | Thunder_Child | huh, i thought i made one |
| 05:33.25 | Thunder_Child | ~pun |
| 05:33.26 | purl | I should be punish'ed for every pun I shed; leave not a puny shred of \my punnish head |
| 05:33.34 | Thunder_Child | ...well that wasnt me |
| 05:34.19 | Shirik|AFK | ~Thunder_Child |
| 05:34.20 | purl | Thunder_Child is an asshole |
| 05:34.23 | Shirik|AFK | hahaha |
| 05:34.30 | Shirik|AFK | ~factinfo Thunder_Child |
| 05:34.30 | purl | thunder_child -- created by Thunder_Child <i=Thunder_@cpe-76-171-184-46.socal.res.rr.com> at Fri Dec 7 02:41:36 2007 (47 days); last modified at Fri Dec 7 18:06:36 2007 by Thunder_Child!i=Thunder_@cpe-76-171-184-46.socal.res.rr.com; it has been requested 13 times, last by Shirik|AFK, 10s ago; it has been locked by Thunder_Child. |
| 05:34.40 | batrick | Shirik|AFK: do u have a mcdonalds across the hall or something |
| 05:34.41 | Shirik|AFK | locked? How do you lock it? |
| 05:34.47 | Shirik|AFK | I didn't leave yet |
| 05:34.47 | Shirik|AFK | I lied |
| 05:34.50 | Thunder_Child | ~lock <factoid> |
| 05:35.09 | Thunder_Child | but purl really only alows it on onse you create about you |
| 05:35.10 | Shirik|AFK | ~unlock Thunder_Child |
| 05:35.17 | Shirik|AFK | interesting |
| 05:35.21 | Thunder_Child | purl may allow it for just ones you create |
| 05:35.52 | Shirik|AFK | ~pet |
| 05:36.01 | Shirik|AFK | ~botsnack |
| 05:36.01 | purl | :), Shirik|AFK |
| 05:36.06 | Shirik|AFK | back to mcdonalds I go |
| 05:36.13 | Shirik|AFK | or Wendy's |
| 05:36.15 | Shirik|AFK | I think Wendy's actually |
| 05:36.43 | NightHawkTheSane | Wendy's, imo |
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| 05:39.24 | Cairenn | weird - I was able to lock "cairenn", but it won't let me lock "emulate cairenn" |
| 05:39.48 | Thunder_Child | emulate isnt created by anyone |
| 05:39.52 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ |
| 05:39.53 | Thunder_Child | it's a modular plugin |
| 05:39.56 | Thunder_Child | i belive |
| 05:39.57 | Cairenn | ah |
| 05:40.21 | cogwheel | emulate isn't anything special, i believe... it's just a convention |
| 05:40.50 | Thunder_Child | well it's an unlockable convention then |
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| 05:45.30 | Thunder_Child | wow...begining of hitman == dark angel |
| 05:46.15 | Wobwork | so for me beginning of hitman == dark |
| 05:46.18 | Thunder_Child | RC5 came out today/yesterday |
| 05:48.02 | Cairenn | hi |
| 05:48.49 | Wobwork | oh wow |
| 05:48.55 | Wobwork | Hat man is so utterly cruel =P |
| 05:51.07 | Tem | Hat man? |
| 05:52.25 | Shirik | ok |
| 05:52.28 | Shirik | when I say just lettuce |
| 05:52.40 | Shirik | I didn't mean just lettuce with tomato and onions and ketchup and pickles and tomoatos |
| 05:52.44 | Shirik | I meant just lettuce |
| 05:52.49 | Shirik | in case any of you work at wendy's |
| 05:53.01 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, just shut up and eat it |
| 05:53.05 | Cairenn | and when I pay extra for added bacon, you damn well add the bacon |
| 05:53.21 | Shirik | No, I'm going to go sue wendy's |
| 05:53.22 | Cidan | When I say a Triple with cheese and that's it, I don't mean a triple with cheese and nothing else on it. |
| 05:53.31 | Cidan | I just mean I'm done with my order |
| 05:53.36 | Wobwork | Tem: http://xkcd.com/374/ |
| 05:53.39 | Cidan | in case any of you work at wendy's |
| 05:54.19 | Wobwork | When I say "I don't want lunch, I want breakfast..." |
| 05:54.39 | Tem | lol |
| 05:55.19 | Shirik | I go to Burger King at least 3 times a week, and I think they've messed up my order twice |
| 05:55.28 | Shirik | I go to Wendy's twice in the last two days; both days they screwed something up |
| 05:55.29 | Cidan | ew fast food |
| 05:55.31 | Wobwork | Maybe you should stop going to Burger King |
| 05:55.35 | Shirik | no! |
| 05:55.37 | Wobwork | And Wendy's |
| 05:55.38 | Shirik | Not until I have a heart attack |
| 05:55.44 | Cidan | I don't think I've had fast food since I left Blacksburg |
| 05:55.49 | Cidan | ~7 months ago |
| 05:55.49 | Wobwork | Well you're working your way to one with the stress =P |
| 05:55.51 | Shirik | you don't know what you're missing |
| 05:55.59 | Cidan | Oh I do. |
| 05:56.03 | Shirik | Next time we meet up Cidan, we're not going to some asian restaurant |
| 05:56.06 | Shirik | we're going to five guys |
| 05:56.19 | Cidan | Never been, heard much about though. |
| 05:56.19 | Shirik | I know one by the mixing bowl |
| 05:56.21 | Wobwork | And you can order the salad |
| 05:56.27 | Cidan | They had one down in Blacksburg |
| 05:56.42 | Cidan | just so long as we never go to that crap resturant again, D: |
| 05:56.50 | Shirik | lol |
| 05:57.06 | Shirik | We still don't have a SSN variable in conspiracy |
| 05:57.07 | Cidan | Remind me to never let Nancy pick the place to eat |
| 05:57.14 | Cidan | Ya I know, :/ |
| 05:57.24 | Cidan | but I wanted something neater than SSN in a variable |
| 05:57.39 | Cidan | an easter egg, perhaps |
| 05:57.59 | Shirik | haha |
| 05:58.54 | batrick | come to new meixco shirik we have breakfast burritos |
| 05:59.37 | KarlKFI | what's the taint log command? |
| 05:59.55 | Cidan | KarlKFI: Mexican Burritos |
| 05:59.59 | Shirik | taintLog 1 |
| 06:00.01 | Shirik | or 2 |
| 06:00.17 | Cidan | also, Burritos != Mexican food, D: |
| 06:04.01 | Shirik | this is a lua-oriented channel |
| 06:04.04 | Shirik | please use ~= |
| 06:04.16 | Cidan | Die. |
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| 06:53.43 | Tem|AFK | Shirik, if you're going to pull that, you can't talk about your embedded C |
| 06:53.53 | Tem|AFK | also, pointers don't exist |
| 06:53.54 | Shirik | I'm not allowed to use malloc |
| 06:53.58 | Shirik | so it's ok |
| 06:54.06 | Shirik | No dynamic memory allocation |
| 06:54.07 | Tem|AFK | much less pointers TO POINTERS |
| 06:54.16 | Shirik | pointers to pointers = win! |
| 06:54.27 | Tem|AFK | lua oriented channel |
| 06:54.29 | Tem|AFK | no pointers |
| 06:54.38 | Shirik | sure there are |
| 06:54.46 | Shirik | --> return {} |
| 06:54.47 | batbot | Shirik: > table: 0x80d9c48 |
| 06:54.53 | Shirik | see? Pointer to 0x80d9c48 |
| 06:54.56 | Tem|AFK | that's a reference |
| 06:55.06 | Shirik | it's a memory location |
| 06:55.37 | Shirik | However I will be the first person to tell you there are no pointers in Lua |
| 06:55.45 | Tem|AFK | (also, I'm ignoring lua_State *L and associated) |
| 06:55.53 | Shirik | except that up there is performed by C, not Lua :) |
| 06:56.03 | Tem|AFK | aye |
| 06:57.02 | Tem|AFK | damn, I miss writing stuff in C |
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| 07:28.31 | Shizen | okay noob question.... the "onevent onload" and other 'ons' need to be declared in the xml, yes or no ? |
| 07:31.21 | reqol | no, they don't. |
| 07:31.25 | reqol | you can use lua or xml |
| 07:31.34 | reqol | well, onload does |
| 07:31.41 | reqol | others don't, as far as I know |
| 07:32.01 | reqol | myFrame:SetScript("OnEvent", myEventHandler) |
| 07:32.02 | reqol | for example |
| 07:32.03 | reqol | through lua |
| 07:33.53 | Thunder_Child | "Do people often walk in on your copulation sessions? Just hang a Sex in Progress Light outside your door, fire it up whenever you're meat spelunking and no one will ever "accidentally" bother you again." |
| 07:36.31 | Shizen | ah setscript |
| 07:37.03 | Shizen | unless they want to deliberately bother you... bringing a 'bothering device' along |
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| 07:37.40 | Shizen | reqol : but of course putting it on the xml registers it for capture/action, yes ? |
| 07:37.46 | Shizen | especially OnEvent >_> |
| 07:39.03 | Shirik | morning Cide |
| 07:39.04 | Shirik | you're on early |
| 07:39.12 | Shirik | or I'm on late |
| 07:39.22 | Shizen | I pin on the latter |
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| 08:13.27 | Cide | morning Shirik |
| 08:13.38 | Cide | I threw up 5 times so I figured I should stay at home |
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| 08:14.50 | Shirik | Ah |
| 08:15.00 | Shirik | Are you aware your bot is throwing up too? |
| 08:15.06 | Shirik | It thinks 1e50 == 1 |
| 08:15.19 | Shirik | (Yey for new Lua bugs) |
| 08:15.57 | Shirik | anyway I hope you feel better |
| 08:17.18 | Shizen | there might be a logical explanation to that thing |
| 08:17.25 | Shizen | have you tried other e50 ? |
| 08:17.33 | Shizen | or other e* for that matter |
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| 08:18.21 | Cide | >>> 1e50 == 1 |
| 08:18.22 | Cide | Cide: false |
| 08:19.17 | kd3 | random... the router I've got plugged directly in to the cable modem was getting crosstalk from a few other networks |
| 08:19.23 | Shizen | errrr |
| 08:19.29 | Shirik | Shizen: there is a very logical explanation |
| 08:19.33 | Shizen | why am I quoted in the topic :o |
| 08:19.38 | Shirik | We've discussed it at length on the lua list and I already posted a patch |
| 08:19.44 | Cide | outline the bug? |
| 08:19.47 | Shizen | oh ? |
| 08:19.55 | Shirik | Actually the bug is not that it things 1e50 is 1 |
| 08:20.00 | Shirik | it's that it thinks 1e50 is -2 million something |
| 08:20.05 | Cide | >>> 1e50 |
| 08:20.06 | Cide | Cide: 1e+050 |
| 08:20.09 | Cide | >>> 1e50 + 1 |
| 08:20.09 | Cide | Cide: 1e+050 |
| 08:20.24 | Cide | show it! |
| 08:20.34 | Shirik | >>> loadstring("return "..("1+"):rep(1e50).."1")() |
| 08:20.34 | Cide | Shirik: 1 |
| 08:20.35 | Cairenn | Shizen: http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/wowi-lounge.html.gz |
| 08:20.42 | Cairenn | random quote ftw |
| 08:20.47 | Shizen | oh lol |
| 08:20.48 | Cide | Shirik: oh |
| 08:21.00 | Shirik | string.rep does an unsafe cast from lua_Number (double) to int |
| 08:21.02 | Shizen | blergh.. I seriously see that "e50" and automatically think of e^50 |
| 08:21.07 | Shirik | 1e50 does not fit in an int |
| 08:21.08 | Shizen | damn Electronic Engineer brain |
| 08:21.31 | Shizen | well typecasting has always been a problem for scripting-type language :3 |
| 08:21.31 | Shirik | string.rep then tries to allocate a negatively sized buffer, but is saved later by some extra code |
| 08:21.40 | Shirik | ("1+"):rep(1e50) thus becomes "" |
| 08:21.51 | Shizen | null, eh |
| 08:22.03 | Shizen | o.O I'm the #9 ? |
| 08:22.06 | Shirik | which thus ends up in "return " .. "" .. "1" |
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| 08:24.03 | Shirik | And you know, if I was smart, I would have caught this a long time ago |
| 08:24.12 | Shirik | But for some reason I never turned on warnings for Lua |
| 08:24.17 | Shizen | rofl |
| 08:24.22 | Shirik | my compiler was sitting glaring at it though, normally I compile at /W4 |
| 08:24.30 | Shirik | But for some reason I left Lua at /W3 |
| 08:25.06 | Shirik | oh I remember |
| 08:25.15 | Shirik | it was because Lua has all these lines that go /* To avoid warnings */ |
| 08:25.19 | Shirik | Which cause a warning in my compiler |
| 08:25.26 | Shizen | haha |
| 08:26.42 | Shizen | hmmm |
| 08:26.45 | Shizen | when do you use OnUpdate ? |
| 08:26.45 | Shirik | Shizen btw I instantly respect you for being an electronic engineer and not a software engineer |
| 08:26.50 | Shirik | thank you |
| 08:26.59 | Shizen | well... I'm a software engineer too |
| 08:27.02 | Shizen | just not certified >_> |
| 08:27.04 | Shirik | then you're a computer engineer |
| 08:27.10 | Shirik | not a software engineer |
| 08:27.12 | Shizen | I'm both |
| 08:27.16 | Shirik | no |
| 08:27.20 | Shirik | you don't want to be a software engineer |
| 08:27.22 | Shizen | certified in Electronic Engineering though |
| 08:27.27 | Shirik | they're evil |
| 08:27.34 | Shirik | computer engineers code the right way :) |
| 08:27.35 | Shizen | errr |
| 08:27.42 | Shizen | I assume you don't mean coders, do you? :P |
| 08:27.50 | Shirik | computer engineers can code, I do all the time :) |
| 08:28.13 | Shirik | you'll fit right in with batrick and me |
| 08:28.17 | Shirik | anyway, OnUpdate is called every frame |
| 08:28.24 | Shizen | speaking of CS... most of the CS degree students that I know |
| 08:28.25 | Shirik | it's for something you need to check often |
| 08:28.34 | Shizen | can't even debug their own <html></html> XD |
| 08:28.47 | Shizen | ah... I see |
| 08:29.00 | kd3 | they must've been the "game programmer" class of CS grads |
| 08:29.03 | Shizen | isn't it triggered on almost every events ? |
| 08:29.09 | Shirik | it's not triggered on an event |
| 08:29.19 | Shirik | it's triggered when on every frame |
| 08:29.19 | Shizen | kd3 : no, unfortunately they're IT class |
| 08:29.28 | Shizen | and they can't debug their own html codes |
| 08:29.30 | Shizen | ah I getcha |
| 08:29.46 | Shizen | so it's like a 'constant pulse' type thingie ? |
| 08:29.47 | Shirik | On that note, you have to be VERY careful with OnUpdate scripts |
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| 08:30.00 | Shirik | it's usually not constant because most people's framerates aren't constant |
| 08:30.03 | Shirik | especially mine |
| 08:30.04 | Shizen | I can see how it can get really ugly |
| 08:30.08 | kd3 | IT != CS |
| 08:30.17 | Shizen | errr |
| 08:30.24 | Shizen | well it's grouped as CS over here |
| 08:30.24 | Shirik | OnUpdate is called every frame so it must run quickly. It must also not generate tons of garbage |
| 08:30.58 | Shizen | anyway, how funny that someone who should be penned to be website/webpage designer can't debug their own html codes |
| 08:31.01 | Shirik | f:SetScript("OnUpdate", function() SetColor({r=1,g=1,b]1}); end); -- I WILL EAT YOU |
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| 08:31.11 | Cide | that's awesome |
| 08:31.16 | Shizen | I can understand if it... say.... is a php/mysql code with several layers deep of session stuffs |
| 08:31.18 | Cide | Shirik: s/YOU/YOUR MEMORY/ |
| 08:31.19 | Shizen | but hey, it's HTML ! |
| 08:31.31 | Shirik | local t = {r=1,g=1,b=1}; f:SetScript("OnUpdate", function() SetColor(t); end); -- Better. |
| 08:31.43 | Shizen | h-mmm |
| 08:31.53 | Shirik | do you know why? |
| 08:32.20 | Cide | it's not about the setscript really |
| 08:32.22 | Shizen | because you uses a local scope variable that immediately gets thrown away after ? |
| 08:32.40 | Shirik | yup, the first one creates a table every time it is called. Which basically means |
| 08:32.51 | Tem|AFK | and that, boys and girls, is called a closure |
| 08:32.53 | Shizen | huge overdrive heh |
| 08:33.13 | Shirik | >>> collectgarbage"stop" local m = collectgarbage"count"; local t = {}; return collectgarbage"count" - m; |
| 08:33.14 | Cide | Shirik: 0.03125 |
| 08:33.21 | Shirik | >>> 0.03125 * 60 |
| 08:33.21 | Cide | Shirik: 1.875 |
| 08:33.27 | Shirik | It basically means 1.8K memory per second |
| 08:33.29 | Shizen | yeah I'm quite used to that concept |
| 08:33.32 | Shirik | and that's a simple example. |
| 08:33.43 | Shizen | since we deal with that quite a lot on pointers and reference |
| 08:33.57 | Shizen | and reference to pointers, reference to reference... and pointer to pointers :D |
| 08:34.05 | Shirik | See Tem|AFK! |
| 08:34.10 | Shirik | Pointers to pointers! And we're talking about Lua. |
| 08:34.11 | Shirik | So nyah |
| 08:34.16 | Tem|AFK | lol |
| 08:34.18 | Shizen | rofl |
| 08:34.31 | Shizen | I'm kinda talking about C++ :P but anyway |
| 08:34.36 | Shirik | Oh you like C++ |
| 08:34.39 | Shirik | Shizen++ |
| 08:34.46 | Shizen | yes |
| 08:34.52 | Shizen | I still code in C sometimes |
| 08:34.53 | Shirik | Actually you're a computer engineer so you get another point |
| 08:34.55 | Shirik | Shizen++ |
| 08:34.59 | Shizen | haha |
| 08:35.06 | Shizen | I won't get that until much later do I ? |
| 08:35.16 | Shirik | ~karma Shizen |
| 08:35.16 | purl | shizen has neutral karma |
| 08:35.19 | Shirik | ok |
| 08:35.22 | Shirik | ~Shizen++ |
| 08:35.32 | Shirik | I KNOW I SAID THAT 9 SECONDSAGO |
| 08:35.36 | Shirik | ~karma Shizen |
| 08:35.36 | purl | shizen has karma of 1 |
| 08:35.39 | Shirik | there we go |
| 08:35.40 | Tem | holy balls I hope these items are fake |
| 08:35.40 | Shizen | rofl |
| 08:35.44 | Tem | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/january/sunwell_loots.jpg |
| 08:35.52 | Shizen | oh ? |
| 08:35.58 | Shizen | already loot from the future dungeon ? |
| 08:35.59 | Tem | look at Vial of the Sunwell under trinkets |
| 08:36.00 | kd3 | fake |
| 08:36.01 | kd3 | all fake |
| 08:36.04 | Shizen | that's what was planned for 2.4 right ? |
| 08:36.05 | Tem | kd3, it's in the game files |
| 08:36.06 | Cairenn | *interrupt on* Whoever was commenting that you have to click on the [word] to be able to change tabs, you'll be happy to know it's been changed so you can click anywhere on the tab graphic *interrupt off* |
| 08:36.22 | Tem | kd3, though, I REALLY, hope it's fake |
| 08:36.27 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn, i never did |
| 08:36.41 | kd3 | bullshit. not in any of the patch data I've skimmed through in an mpq viewer |
| 08:36.41 | Tem | because seriously, I don't even want to THINK about dealing with vial of the sunwell in arena |
| 08:36.47 | Shirik | Cairenn: Actually, when you interrupt, you're supposed to DISABLE interrupt |
| 08:36.49 | Tem | kd3, oh? |
| 08:36.53 | Shirik | that way no other interrupts can come in and preempt you |
| 08:36.59 | Cairenn | heh |
| 08:37.17 | Shirik | That, or on a Motorola microcontroller you can set your interrupt mask to 7 |
| 08:37.19 | kd3 | mmo-c's posted fake information before. unless there's links to blizz posts I treat anything coming from them as lies by default |
| 08:37.34 | Shizen | which Microcontroller |
| 08:37.43 | Shirik | Well me? I actually tend to use 68HCS12 |
| 08:37.48 | Shizen | ah |
| 08:37.56 | Shirik | But I was referring to the 68000s there actually (not a microcontroller, but whatever) |
| 08:37.58 | Tem | kd3, he posted it as "I posted these a while back with 'LOL FAKE' but they look realistic now, though still completely unconfirmed) |
| 08:38.03 | Shizen | MicroProcessor |
| 08:38.05 | Shizen | heh |
| 08:38.25 | Shizen | and my old college course is getting a 'revamp' in their syllabus |
| 08:38.38 | Shirik | 68HCS12 actually just has one bit for interrupt masking |
| 08:38.38 | Shizen | and you know what chip they get now for "microprocessor" subject ? |
| 08:38.44 | Shizen | Intel 8501 |
| 08:38.47 | Shirik | wtf? |
| 08:38.54 | Shizen | wtf indeed |
| 08:39.05 | Shizen | it was previously Motorola M6800 |
| 08:39.09 | Shizen | the 8-bit wonder |
| 08:39.12 | Kalroth | Everything is relative |
| 08:39.16 | kd3 | m68k whee |
| 08:39.21 | Shirik | I REALLY like the 68HCS12 |
| 08:39.27 | Shirik | except for the fact that every operation has like 20 opcodes |
| 08:39.34 | Shirik | but it's still nice |
| 08:39.35 | Shizen | well |
| 08:39.47 | Shizen | you should base your work on the 32-bit 68k |
| 08:39.56 | Shizen | and put the HCS12 as a backend |
| 08:40.04 | Shizen | I know I did :3 |
| 08:40.12 | Shirik | I do work on Atmega microcontrollers now |
| 08:40.30 | Shizen | hmmm |
| 08:40.33 | Shizen | do you work on PICs ? |
| 08:40.41 | Shirik | I have |
| 08:40.52 | Shizen | I have a few I got here for free |
| 08:40.57 | Shizen | and the datasheets info are blah :| |
| 08:41.10 | Shirik | really? |
| 08:41.18 | Shirik | All the info I ever had on them is like "omg information overload" |
| 08:41.25 | Shizen | haha |
| 08:41.29 | Shirik | I mean they only had 32 instructions or something |
| 08:41.30 | Shizen | well |
| 08:41.37 | Shizen | the datasheets are not so bad |
| 08:41.38 | Shirik | and somehow they made a 300 page book out of it |
| 08:41.47 | Shizen | it's the design characteristic that's kinda misleading |
| 08:41.49 | Shizen | I mean... |
| 08:42.03 | Shizen | I just want to know the high-low treshold and whatnot to make my own devboard |
| 08:42.10 | Shizen | but as you said, information overload >_> |
| 08:42.20 | Shirik | That reminds me |
| 08:42.29 | Shirik | I need to look up the overvolt threshold on the atmega 168 |
| 08:42.45 | Shirik | btw, operating with RC batteries really sucks for TTL devices |
| 08:42.45 | Shizen | this country need to get better microchip stocks though |
| 08:43.04 | Shizen | it's sad that we produces for AMD, Intel, Motorola, and tons of other company in the 'chip' market |
| 08:43.11 | Shizen | and we NEVER get any of those product in our own market |
| 08:43.20 | Shizen | RC ? you mean those rechargeable 7.2 ? |
| 08:43.41 | Shizen | hmmm |
| 08:43.58 | Shizen | -lounge |
| 08:44.25 | Cairenn | the lounge transforms into lots of things by times |
| 08:44.31 | Shizen | haha |
| 08:45.13 | Shirik | Shizen: Exactly |
| 08:45.20 | Shirik | the 7.2 that actually become 7.8 |
| 08:45.24 | Shirik | And then they drop down to 6.8 |
| 08:45.24 | Shizen | hrmmm |
| 08:45.30 | Shirik | try normalizing that to 5V consistently! |
| 08:45.31 | Shizen | I rated one once |
| 08:45.35 | Shizen | it was a Sony |
| 08:45.41 | Shizen | Sony Lithium |
| 08:45.53 | Shizen | it was actually a consistent 7.4-7.6 |
| 08:46.00 | Shirik | Oh, ours aren't >< |
| 08:46.09 | Shirik | And unfortunately we're stuck with what we have |
| 08:46.12 | Shizen | but you have to charge it like... 6 hours before its 'projected death time' |
| 08:46.29 | Shirik | So I had this really cool idea of providing a constant voltage source |
| 08:46.29 | Shizen | failure to do so would drop the voltage down to ... like..... 4.8-5.2 |
| 08:46.39 | Shirik | But it actually damaged the battery |
| 08:46.43 | Shirik | So we gave up on that idea |
| 08:46.44 | Shizen | hmmm |
| 08:46.51 | Shizen | TTL's 5... wait... I thought TTL's 12 ? |
| 08:46.52 | Shirik | I'm still not sure why it did >< |
| 08:46.57 | Shizen | or was that CMOS... |
| 08:46.59 | Shirik | No TTL's definitely 5 :P |
| 08:47.02 | Shizen | rofl I'm getting kinda muddled here |
| 08:47.15 | Shirik | Or else everything is magically working for some reason |
| 08:47.26 | Shizen | okay so it's CMOS that's 12 |
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| 08:48.46 | Shizen | pfft scratch the oracle |
| 08:49.08 | Shizen | anyway TTL's 5 volt indeed |
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| 08:49.38 | Thunder_Child | volt? i assume not Time-To-Live then? |
| 08:49.38 | Shirik | Anyway my design was really cool |
| 08:49.47 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: transistor-transistor logic |
| 08:49.55 | Shizen | hehe |
| 08:49.58 | Thunder_Child | oh, i was thinking software, not hardware |
| 08:50.09 | Shirik | My design was really cool, go across a bunch of diodes to force a 5V voltage drop, then in parallel go across a resistor |
| 08:50.17 | Shirik | that resistor has to also have a 5V voltage drop |
| 08:50.22 | Shizen | err |
| 08:50.29 | Shizen | why not use a 8905 ? |
| 08:50.50 | Shizen | (or was that 8505) |
| 08:50.55 | Shirik | we dodm |
| 08:50.57 | Shirik | we didn't have one :P |
| 08:51.02 | Shirik | I'm going with stuff we had in the lab :P |
| 08:51.08 | Shizen | that usually drops/regulate the voltage to 4.9-5.2 |
| 08:51.11 | Shizen | ah |
| 08:51.30 | Shizen | I use 8905 with all my TTL stuffs |
| 08:51.40 | Shizen | since I usuall mix it with a few CMOS that operates on 12 |
| 08:51.57 | Shizen | of course, the problem can be solved by simply ripping off a PC PSU and using that as an unbarred supply |
| 08:52.05 | Shizen | but I don't trust a PSU... |
| 08:52.16 | Shizen | not some generic ones at least |
| 08:54.02 | Shirik | We'll have a PSU anyway |
| 08:54.08 | Shirik | so we're considering just pulling off of that |
| 08:54.12 | Shirik | but we're really worried about the current |
| 08:54.25 | Shirik | I don't think that PSU can handle 3A from the 5V line |
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| 08:55.35 | Shirik | Anyway for the time being we're just using a voltage divider with a potentiometer haha |
| 08:55.45 | Shirik | and every 30 minutes or so, going to a multimeter to check the voltage |
| 08:56.43 | Shizen | just slap-dash a quick voltmeter there |
| 08:56.53 | Shirik | don't have one |
| 08:56.56 | Shizen | meh |
| 08:56.59 | Shirik | you severely overestimate our lab |
| 08:57.04 | Shizen | your lab seems to be understocked :P |
| 08:57.10 | Shirik | very much so |
| 08:57.12 | Shirik | and they're trying to move us out |
| 08:57.20 | Shirik | Oh but we have like 10 oscilloscopes |
| 08:57.28 | Shirik | Never mind that we only actually need 1 |
| 08:57.28 | Shizen | I mean... I have all the abovementioned stuffs in my house! |
| 08:57.40 | Shizen | just laying around strewing about the place |
| 08:57.46 | Shizen | especially op-amps... >_> |
| 08:57.56 | Shirik | Oh we have op amps :P |
| 08:58.01 | Shirik | and resistors |
| 08:58.04 | Shirik | we have TONS of resistors |
| 08:58.09 | Shirik | unfortunately they're all in one big bin |
| 08:58.12 | Shirik | all of them |
| 08:58.19 | Shirik | from 1 ohm to 10MOhm |
| 08:58.19 | Shizen | last time I count my inventory... I have 75 2p 102 4p and 7 3p |
| 08:58.40 | Shizen | mostly uses the 4p and 2p though |
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| 08:58.49 | Shizen | I don't really know how I got my hand on a 3p... it's rare enough |
| 08:59.10 | Tem | lawl EE |
| 08:59.15 | Shizen | shush you |
| 09:00.05 | Tem | I started as EEC but realized pretty quickly that I hated electricity |
| 09:00.16 | Shizen | mmm |
| 09:00.25 | Shizen | I grew up being stung by it.. I'm quite immune rofl |
| 09:00.52 | Shizen | from 110V to 18kV |
| 09:01.08 | Tem | V doesn't kill you |
| 09:01.12 | Shizen | nope |
| 09:01.14 | Shizen | P does |
| 09:01.15 | Tem | 100-200mA throught the heart does |
| 09:01.28 | Duman | DC is the worst |
| 09:01.32 | Shizen | but still 18kV from the LineTrans of a TV tube hurts... |
| 09:01.50 | Duman | grabbing both poles of a car battery is way worse than being shocked by house current |
| 09:02.00 | Shizen | Duman : been there done that |
| 09:02.11 | Shirik | being shocked by house current is very hard these days |
| 09:02.16 | Duman | yeah |
| 09:02.17 | Shirik | between GFIs and circuit breakers |
| 09:02.20 | Shizen | if you haven't been shocked by a Line Trans, don't comment on it ;P |
| 09:02.26 | Duman | heh |
| 09:02.39 | Shirik | btw Tem |
| 09:02.39 | Duman | I'll pass,thanks ;-) |
| 09:02.40 | kd3 | 120v is fun. not being able to feel your hand for a while isn't... |
| 09:02.49 | Shizen | I did my industrial engineering practice work in a TV repairshop |
| 09:02.50 | Shirik | that's why when you're working with live wires, you only use one hand :) |
| 09:02.51 | batrick | hehe ifound a newluabug |
| 09:03.01 | Tem | Shirik, lol |
| 09:03.05 | Shizen | and despite 'grounding' the frame 9 times out of 10 |
| 09:03.13 | Shizen | I still got stung 6 times out of 10 >_> |
| 09:03.20 | Shirik | batrick: What's that? |
| 09:03.27 | Shirik | It removes your space bar? |
| 09:03.40 | batrick | --> t = {} t[2^32] = 1 t[2^32]=2 table.insert(t,2^32,5) for k,v in pairs(t) do print(k,v) end |
| 09:03.41 | batbot | batrick: 4294967296 2 0 5 |
| 09:04.01 | Shirik | ooooooooookay |
| 09:04.05 | Shirik | awesome |
| 09:04.31 | Shirik | --> 2^32 == 2^32 |
| 09:04.31 | batbot | Shirik: > true |
| 09:04.32 | batrick | i'm reading lua source code looking for exploits... am i pathetic? |
| 09:04.37 | Shirik | haha |
| 09:04.39 | nevcairiel | its accurate up to 2^52 -1 |
| 09:04.51 | Shirik | Not really, batrick, I compiled earlier to see if my compiler could find any exploits for me |
| 09:05.05 | Shizen | hrmm |
| 09:05.12 | Shizen | for () in pairs() eh.. |
| 09:05.36 | Shizen | ah right, the table traversing method... |
| 09:05.55 | Shirik | yes, but what it fails to point out is that there's (supposedly) only one entry in the table |
| 09:05.59 | Shirik | yet it prints out two |
| 09:06.28 | nevcairiel | there are two elements in the table |
| 09:06.29 | Shirik | it appears that table.insert() improperly casts to an int? Yes batrick? |
| 09:06.34 | nevcairiel | t.insert shifts stuff down and up |
| 09:06.37 | nevcairiel | it doesnt override |
| 09:07.06 | Shirik | Yes nevcairiel, but what it doesn't do |
| 09:07.11 | Shirik | is stick stuff wherever the hell it wants |
| 09:07.25 | Shirik | table.insert(t, 2^32, 5) -- t[0] = 5 ? |
| 09:07.46 | nevcairiel | --> t = {} table.insert(t, 2^32, 5); for k,v in pairs(t) do print(k,v) end |
| 09:07.46 | batbot | nevcairiel: 0 5 |
| 09:07.52 | nevcairiel | --> t = {} table.insert(t, 32, 5); for k,v in pairs(t) do print(k,v) end |
| 09:07.52 | batbot | nevcairiel: 32 5 |
| 09:07.56 | nevcairiel | *shrug |
| 09:07.57 | Shirik | And sure enough |
| 09:07.58 | Shirik | pos = luaL_checkint(L, 2); /* 2nd argument is the position */ |
| 09:08.00 | Shirik | This line is wrong |
| 09:08.10 | Shirik | Same problem I found earlier with regards to string.rep |
| 09:08.32 | Shirik | I'm wondering if the correct fix is actually to have luaL_checkint() check to see if it can't fit in an int |
| 09:08.40 | Shirik | instead of fixing these individual locations |
| 09:09.57 | Shizen | anyway |
| 09:10.11 | Shizen | back to trying to catch every events that triggers PLAYER_MONEY |
| 09:10.50 | Shizen | yes I know, I'm a geek... I'm hugging a script debugging tool... |
| 09:11.14 | Industrial | what is PLAYER_MONEY, a global var? : |
| 09:11.16 | Industrial | :P |
| 09:11.25 | Shizen | maybe |
| 09:12.48 | Shirik | or an event |
| 09:13.04 | Shizen | heh |
| 09:13.18 | batrick | heh i feel sorta bad looking for all these bugs when they're trying to get out 5.1.3 |
| 09:13.48 | Shirik | batrick: Nonsense, we must ensure 5.1.3 doesn't have any coroutine bugs! |
| 09:13.50 | Lonny | I'm sure Ind was but we never know |
| 09:14.13 | batrick | lol |
| 09:14.26 | krka | batrick: did you report the bug to the lua devs? |
| 09:14.41 | batrick | there is this interesting loop in tinsert i'm trying to figure out how toreally mess with stuff |
| 09:14.49 | Shirik | hmmmmmmmmmm |
| 09:14.52 | batrick | i will, i'm looking at what else is wrong with this |
| 09:14.57 | batrick | i smell more sploits |
| 09:15.07 | Shizen | we all luv sploits don't we ? |
| 09:15.11 | batrick | indeed |
| 09:15.20 | Shizen | okay I need to get back to my scripting |
| 09:15.28 | Shizen | .....and stop watching Electric Youth >_> |
| 09:15.54 | batrick | actually |
| 09:16.02 | batrick | it seems all negative numbers become 0 |
| 09:16.24 | batrick | nvm |
| 09:17.01 | batrick | something more interesting happens |
| 09:17.14 | batrick | -->t = {1,2,3,4,5} table.insert(t, -1, 5) for k,v in pairs(t) do print(k,v) end |
| 09:17.14 | batbot | batrick: 2 1 3 2 4 3 5 4 6 5 -1 5 |
| 09:17.46 | Shirik | uh |
| 09:17.46 | nevcairiel | it shifts everything up |
| 09:17.47 | Shirik | wow |
| 09:18.03 | Shirik | nevcairiel: And doubles all the entries too :P |
| 09:18.07 | batrick | i knew that loop had potential :D |
| 09:18.07 | Shirik | And makes up its own |
| 09:18.10 | Shirik | Oh wait, no, that was k,v |
| 09:18.13 | Shirik | stop doing that! |
| 09:18.36 | nevcairiel | -->t = {1,2,3,4,5} table.insert(t, -1, 5) for k,v in pairs(t) do print(k.."="..v) end |
| 09:18.36 | batbot | nevcairiel: 2=1 3=2 4=3 5=4 6=5 -1=5 |
| 09:18.39 | nevcairiel | Shirik safe |
| 09:18.49 | Shizen | lol |
| 09:19.14 | Shirik | I do like how string.upper and string.lower both fall victim to the string.rep bug as well |
| 09:19.43 | Shirik | as does string.reverse |
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| 09:21.08 | batrick | i was hoping for a segfault somehow personally |
| 09:21.25 | Shirik | me too =( |
| 09:21.41 | Shirik | I was hoping that this non-memory-allocation would then result in memory being written that isn't supposed to be |
| 09:22.13 | batrick | eh i bet tremove has the same problems |
| 09:22.21 | batrick | -->t = {1,2,3,4,5} table.remove(t, -1, 5) for k,v in pairs(t) do print(k,v) end |
| 09:22.22 | batbot | batrick: 1 1 2 2 3 3 4 4 5 5 |
| 09:22.35 | batrick | eh |
| 09:22.59 | nevcairiel | -->t = {[-1] = 9, 1,2,3,4,5} table.remove(t, -1, 5) for k,v in pairs(t) do print(k,v) end |
| 09:22.59 | batbot | nevcairiel: 1 1 2 2 3 3 4 4 5 5 -1 9 |
| 09:23.23 | nevcairiel | guess it just doesnt work |
| 09:23.29 | batrick | should have removed the value... it hink |
| 09:23.54 | Shirik | --> string.char(2^32 + 90) |
| 09:23.54 | batbot | Shirik: > Z |
| 09:23.56 | Shirik | heh |
| 09:24.05 | Shirik | fun, but not exploit-worthy |
| 09:24.09 | batrick | the position was outside of bounds... so it immediately returned |
| 09:25.44 | batrick | they really need to be using unsigned ints |
| 09:26.32 | batrick | hmm |
| 09:26.40 | batrick | --> = string.char(2^32) |
| 09:26.41 | batbot | batrick: > \0 |
| 09:26.48 | batrick | --> = string.char(2^32,2^32) |
| 09:26.49 | batbot | batrick: > \0\0 |
| 09:26.58 | batrick | i bet ucould do something with that |
| 09:27.19 | batrick | --> = string.char(2^32,2^32) |
| 09:27.20 | batbot | batrick: > \0\0 |
| 09:27.23 | batrick | --> = #string.char(2^32,2^32) |
| 09:27.24 | batbot | batrick: > 2 |
| 09:27.36 | batrick | --> = #string.char(2^32,2^32+1,2^32) |
| 09:27.37 | batbot | batrick: > 3 |
| 09:27.40 | batrick | o well |
| 09:27.47 | batrick | well |
| 09:27.49 | Shirik | the segfaults are avoided by their strange ways of doing memory allocation |
| 09:28.01 | batrick | i finished searching lbaselib.c and ltablib.c for tonight |
| 09:28.18 | Shirik | I did lstrlib.c didn't see anything very fun, though there are some problems |
| 09:30.26 | batrick | lmathlib is pretty boring |
| 09:30.45 | Shirik | heh |
| 09:30.48 | Shirik | it's all doubles |
| 09:30.50 | Shirik | I checked that too |
| 09:31.03 | Shirik | --> tostring("3", 2^32+2) |
| 09:31.03 | batbot | Shirik: > 3 |
| 09:31.08 | Shirik | --> tostring("3", 2^32+1) |
| 09:31.08 | batbot | Shirik: > 3 |
| 09:31.35 | Shirik | well neither of those answers are what I expected |
| 09:36.00 | batrick | eh i'm too tired to look nemore |
| 09:36.01 | batrick | bbl |
| 09:48.58 | Shirik | Cide: ping |
| 09:49.04 | Cide | pong |
| 09:49.19 | Shirik | Do you happen to know if you're vulnerable to the print(-nil) bug? I need a dumped version of the bad code. |
| 09:49.31 | Cide | I dunno? |
| 09:49.36 | Cide | I'm unaware of the bug |
| 09:50.08 | Shirik | Heh, I think you are. My VM refuses to load your dumped code |
| 09:50.23 | Shirik | Thanks :) I needed the code |
| 09:50.32 | Cide | np? |
| 09:50.39 | Cide | I didn't do anything :P |
| 09:50.43 | Shirik | yes you did |
| 09:50.45 | Shirik | you just don't know it |
| 09:50.47 | Cide | oh ok |
| 09:50.56 | Shirik | (04:48:10) (Cide) Shirik: "\027LuaQ\000\001\004\004\004\008\000\012\000\0 etc etc |
| 09:51.16 | Cide | that was before you even asked :P |
| 09:51.27 | Shirik | Yes because I pulled your code before asking :P |
| 09:51.37 | Shirik | oh wait, no it wasn't |
| 09:51.41 | Shirik | (04:48:51) (@Shirik) Do you happen to know if you're vulnerable to the print(-nil) bug? I need a dumped version of the bad code. |
| 09:51.47 | Shirik | oh wait yes it was |
| 09:51.51 | Shirik | I need to go to sleep I think |
| 09:51.57 | Cide | prolly |
| 09:52.11 | Shizen | hrmm |
| 09:52.20 | Shizen | I should turn my druid into a Boomkin |
| 09:52.29 | Shizen | or a Treekin ? hmmm decisions decisions |
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| 09:58.14 | Shirik | lol |
| 09:58.16 | Shirik | > assert(loadstring(string.dump(foo))) |
| 09:58.16 | Shirik | stdin:1: binary string: bad code in precompiled chunk |
| 09:58.18 | Shirik | that can't be good |
| 10:03.22 | Shirik | omg |
| 10:03.24 | Shirik | I found a "goto" in Lua |
| 10:03.30 | Shirik | I don't think I can look at this code anymore |
| 10:03.32 | Shizen | OMG |
| 10:03.32 | nevcairiel | a real goto? |
| 10:03.34 | Shizen | KILL IT |
| 10:03.36 | Shirik | yes |
| 10:03.36 | Shizen | with fireeee |
| 10:03.38 | nevcairiel | omg |
| 10:03.39 | Shizen | c'mon kill it !!! |
| 10:03.48 | Shizen | quick ! |
| 10:03.48 | Shirik | goto reentry; /* restart luaV_execute over new Lua function */ |
| 10:03.54 | Shizen | >< |
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| 10:04.10 | nevcairiel | thats probable even going up from the sound of that |
| 10:04.12 | nevcairiel | *ugly* |
| 10:04.18 | Shizen | is it at the LUA core ? |
| 10:04.18 | krka | Shizen: Lua is not an acronym. It is a Portuguese word that means moon. |
| 10:04.22 | Shirik | yes |
| 10:04.35 | Shizen | am I going to have to code knowing that I'll be at the mercy of an unstable goto ? |
| 10:04.45 | Shirik | it's luaV_execute... quite literally, the thing that runs everything |
| 10:04.53 | Shizen | great... |
| 10:05.01 | Shirik | AHAHAH |
| 10:05.03 | Shirik | and in the same function |
| 10:05.08 | Shirik | for (;;) { |
| 10:05.12 | Shirik | Who wrote this.... |
| 10:05.17 | nevcairiel | oh noes |
| 10:05.22 | nevcairiel | gotos and endless loops |
| 10:05.39 | Shizen | well endless loop isn't so bad here and there |
| 10:05.46 | Shizen | but NEVER at the core of something like this ! |
| 10:05.48 | Shirik | Yeah but most people do while(true) |
| 10:05.51 | Shirik | not for(;;) |
| 10:05.52 | Shizen | >< |
| 10:05.57 | Shizen | actually Shirik |
| 10:06.00 | Shirik | well I guess C doesn't have a true |
| 10:06.00 | Shizen | assembly wise |
| 10:06.01 | Shirik | while(1) |
| 10:06.03 | Shizen | the processor couldn't care less |
| 10:06.07 | Shirik | well yeah |
| 10:06.22 | Shizen | it's just that... |
| 10:06.27 | Shizen | compile and link wise |
| 10:06.47 | Shizen | I'm guessing while(true) takes up less 'optimization' than an ugly for(;;) |
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| 10:16.55 | batrick | actually C does a have a true |
| 10:17.01 | batrick | see stdarg.h |
| 10:17.12 | batrick | err |
| 10:17.14 | nevcairiel | #define TRUE 1 ? |
| 10:17.28 | nevcairiel | or was it enum (FALSE, TRUE) |
| 10:17.29 | batrick | ya that's pretyt much it |
| 10:17.37 | Shizen | enum, I think |
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| 10:25.23 | batrick | finally found it, in the most obvious place |
| 10:25.28 | batrick | stdbool.h lawl |
| 10:25.55 | batrick | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stdbool.h |
| 10:26.18 | Shirik | enums don't exist in C either, I thought |
| 10:26.24 | Shirik | if they do, they're fake enums |
| 10:26.25 | batrick | they do |
| 10:26.32 | batrick | they're mad shitty tho |
| 10:26.43 | Shirik | C's too type-unsafe to make them really great :P |
| 10:27.13 | Shirik | enum {a, b} foo; enum {c, d} bar; foo = bar; /* I imagine this is legal? */ |
| 10:28.05 | Shizen | harhar |
| 10:28.22 | nevcairiel | i guess it would be since enums are just ints with symbolic names *shrug |
| 10:28.34 | Shirik | Well see that's not what they are in C++ :) |
| 10:28.49 | Shirik | in C++, each enum is its own type. You can't do that without explicit casting. |
| 10:29.12 | Shirik | Hell I don't even think you can do foo=1; |
| 10:29.24 | Shirik | If you can, I'm sure my compiler gives you a warning for it |
| 10:29.53 | Shizen | hrmmm |
| 10:30.03 | Shizen | I think you can Shirik |
| 10:30.25 | Shizen | it's the order of the thing, though |
| 10:30.44 | Shizen | like which one you to chose to enum-assign |
| 10:30.47 | Shirik | 1>c:\users\mpdelbuono\documents\code\vocal\server\src\vocalserver.cpp(42) : error C2440: '=' : cannot convert from 'bar' to 'foo' |
| 10:30.47 | Shirik | 1> Conversion to enumeration type requires an explicit cast (static_cast, C-style cast or function-style cast) |
| 10:30.47 | Shirik | 1>c:\users\mpdelbuono\documents\code\vocal\server\src\vocalserver.cpp(43) : error C2440: '=' : cannot convert from 'int' to 'foo' |
| 10:30.47 | Shirik | 1> Conversion to enumeration type requires an explicit cast (static_cast, C-style cast or function-style cast) |
| 10:30.56 | Corrodias | aw, my first parking ticket! |
| 10:30.58 | Corrodias | i'm so proud |
| 10:31.03 | Shizen | and what you does or doesn't assign a default enum after the said chosen enum |
| 10:31.30 | Corrodias | oh man, enums |
| 10:31.31 | batrick | man |
| 10:31.32 | Shirik | So like I said, neither are acceptable without an explicit cast. |
| 10:31.40 | Shirik | C++ is very much more type strict than C :) |
| 10:31.42 | batrick | i got a parking ticket for the first time a couple days ago myself |
| 10:31.50 | nevcairiel | I know why i like C++ over C, but my university made me do ANSI-C |
| 10:32.14 | Shirik | batrick: I know your name now! |
| 10:32.22 | batrick | u coulda /whois |
| 10:32.26 | Shirik | You weren't very creative when you made your IRC nick huh |
| 10:32.39 | batrick | it's been my nickname for a long time in my family |
| 10:32.47 | Shizen | Batty Patrick ? |
| 10:33.05 | Corrodias | Batman/Rick |
| 10:33.11 | Shizen | oh... |
| 10:33.28 | Corrodias | alternate side parking for plowing of streets, totally forgot about it because i almost never park on a street |
| 10:33.50 | Shirik | Corrodias: I got my first ticket by being slammed by another car nearly head-on |
| 10:33.56 | Corrodias | $30, just enough to be an annoyance. perfect amount. |
| 10:34.01 | Shirik | my car had almost no damage |
| 10:34.04 | batrick | mine was 10$ |
| 10:34.06 | Shirik | except for the axle |
| 10:34.09 | batrick | i was gone for fucking 10 minutes |
| 10:34.09 | Corrodias | that doesn't sound like much of a good reason for a ticket, Shirik |
| 10:34.10 | Shirik | so it was totaled |
| 10:34.10 | batrick | was so gay |
| 10:34.28 | Corrodias | unless, you know, you totally violated traffic laws in the process and thereby caused it |
| 10:34.32 | Shirik | well |
| 10:34.35 | Shirik | here was his argument |
| 10:34.39 | Shirik | we both got tickets |
| 10:34.43 | batrick | i remember looking at my windshield hoping it was some lame advertising shit |
| 10:34.53 | Shirik | She violated the law by not having her headlights on, I violated the law by not yielding to oncoming traffic |
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| 10:35.11 | batrick | lol? |
| 10:35.13 | Shirik | In his opinion I "should have easily been able to see the oncoming car, regardless of the headlight infraction" |
| 10:35.23 | batrick | lmao... |
| 10:35.26 | batrick | u shoulda taken that to court |
| 10:35.36 | batrick | unless it doesn't fuck ur insurance then don't bother |
| 10:35.37 | Shirik | Actually I was required to go to court |
| 10:35.37 | Corrodias | i would expect that to be contestable, agreed |
| 10:35.38 | Shizen | yes, you should |
| 10:35.45 | Shizen | if it's pitch-black night |
| 10:35.58 | Shirik | But rather than argue it, since it wasn't going onto my record and I wasn't getting a fine for it, I just decided to plead no contest |
| 10:36.01 | Shizen | headlight infraction incurs a default 'you're to blame' |
| 10:36.16 | Corrodias | now, on a well-lit street, i don't even notice if i don't have my lights completely visible (such as covered by snow) |
| 10:36.16 | batrick | eh |
| 10:36.22 | Shirik | not guilty, just no contest |
| 10:36.24 | Corrodias | not that that happens often. happened once. |
| 10:36.24 | batrick | i woulda challenged it! |
| 10:36.39 | Shirik | If she had sued me later, I would have argued it |
| 10:36.51 | Shirik | (that was my reasoning behind the no contest plead) |
| 10:37.23 | batrick | Shirik: lua_setfield is a macro |
| 10:37.24 | Shirik | It helps to have a lawyer in the family, he did all this analysis for me |
| 10:37.34 | Shirik | yes it is |
| 10:37.45 | Wobin | oh my god |
| 10:37.45 | Shirik | I found it :P |
| 10:37.45 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueQL2dvnyZA |
| 10:37.49 | batrick | :P |
| 10:37.56 | Wobin | I never knew anyone in a fursuit could be so dexterous =) |
| 10:38.44 | Shirik | "The line endings in the following file are not consistent. How do you want to normalize the line endings? CRLF, CR, LF, LS, PS |
| 10:38.53 | Wobin | "Yes" |
| 10:38.55 | nevcairiel | lS PS? |
| 10:39.04 | Shirik | Subversion needs to perform ASCII translation on text files |
| 10:39.18 | Shirik | LS = "Unicode Line Separator" PS = "Unicode Page Separator" |
| 10:39.25 | Wobin | omg, he's done a Carol of the Bells version |
| 10:39.26 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 10:39.29 | Wobin | This guy rocks |
| 10:39.33 | Shirik | It's not listed with an OS though |
| 10:39.42 | Shizen | CRLF please |
| 10:39.52 | Shirik | It says Windows (CRLF), Macintosh (CR), Unix (LF) |
| 10:39.58 | Shirik | I'm surprised Macs don't use Unix standard |
| 10:40.07 | Shizen | what's the hex for LF/LS/PS again ? |
| 10:40.14 | Shizen | errr |
| 10:40.15 | Shirik | CRLF = 10 13 |
| 10:40.18 | Shizen | disregard LF |
| 10:40.26 | Shizen | 0A0D |
| 10:40.43 | Shirik | no, that would be 0x0A 0x0D |
| 10:40.48 | Shizen | you're a Computer Engineer and you use decimal ? meh |
| 10:40.52 | Corrodias | use CRPS |
| 10:41.04 | Shirik | Corrodias: Not exactly an option |
| 10:41.12 | Corrodias | DO IT |
| 10:41.20 | Shirik | You go tell microsoft to add the option |
| 10:41.40 | Shizen | option to where Shirik ? |
| 10:41.45 | Shirik | visual studio |
| 10:41.49 | Shizen | option to what, actually |
| 10:41.54 | Shizen | you using the Express studio ? |
| 10:42.06 | Shirik | no, VS2008 Professional |
| 10:42.28 | Corrodias | the option to linebreak! |
| 10:42.32 | Shizen | well yes |
| 10:42.37 | Shizen | oh, Professional |
| 10:43.10 | nevcairiel | that reminds me |
| 10:43.19 | nevcairiel | i need to bug my university to give me the 2008 prof |
| 10:43.35 | Shizen | hehe... hehehehehe...... |
| 10:43.35 | batrick | vim > VS |
| 10:43.42 | Shizen | I took a peek at my old college's lab |
| 10:43.48 | Shizen | and they're still using TurboC 4.5 |
| 10:43.51 | Shizen | hehehehehehehehehehehehe |
| 10:43.51 | Shirik | This option |
| 10:44.00 | Shirik | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/da3ca5ebe942d5a768bf924eced318dd.jpg |
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| 10:45.04 | Corrodias | the correct choice is: install windows 2k3 server |
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| 10:45.54 | Shirik | btw Shizen you can get VS2008 for free |
| 10:46.05 | Shirik | I'm not sure if you're supposed to, but it's from Microsoft's site so.... |
| 10:46.21 | Corrodias | at work, we use Borland C++ Builder 6 (an IDE that, while it has some decent features, is buggy and feels quite outdated), and the programs all use proprietary Borland classes so we're kinda stuck with it until we have time to rewrite them, which will be in approximately never |
| 10:46.36 | Shirik | http://www.microsoft.com/Downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=b98a61ba-99b0-40b7-ab6e-5386a2b94217&displaylang=en |
| 10:47.10 | Corrodias | that's a beta, and it says, "Note: When this release is uninstalled, existing Visual Studio and .NET Framework installations may be affected. See the ReadMe file for more information." |
| 10:47.18 | Corrodias | wait, wrong one |
| 10:47.29 | Corrodias | "We designed this release to let developers try out new technology and product changes, but not to build production systems. This limitation is fully covered in the Microsoft Software License Terms that accompany this beta. " |
| 10:47.34 | Shirik | Yeah it's a beta but it works pretty well |
| 10:47.49 | Shirik | Psh, I don't make production systems :P |
| 10:47.57 | Shirik | If I did, I would have the company pay for a MSDN subscription |
| 10:49.26 | Shizen | err |
| 10:49.28 | Shizen | like I said Shirik |
| 10:49.35 | Shizen | -[18:42:39]- * Shizen uses the free one |
| 10:49.40 | Shizen | VS2008 Express |
| 10:49.44 | nevcairiel | anyhow, does anyone here know/have a simple tool to measure network bandwidth? It has to be able to handle gbit connections, so no harddisk activiy involed to not get limited by that speed |
| 10:49.53 | Shirik | But you could be using VS2008 Professional Beta 2 :) |
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| 10:53.45 | Shirik | " when i try to log into WoW it says my info is roung so i tryed that at least 5 times, then i paniced thinking i was being hacked so i went to www.worldofwarcraft.com to try and log on to the manage account page.that worked so i changed my passwored and when i try to log on it still says my info is roung" |
| 10:53.58 | Shirik | -_-- |
| 10:54.09 | Corrodias | hmm |
| 10:54.10 | Shizen | o.o |
| 10:54.14 | Shirik | I think he can't spell |
| 10:54.21 | Corrodias | good point |
| 10:54.21 | Shizen | errr |
| 10:54.34 | Shizen | what's "roung" hehehehehe hahaha |
| 10:54.59 | Kalroth | ur roung! |
| 10:55.28 | Shirik | After being told to reboot his computer: " what do u mean by reboot (ima kinda of noob a this stuff)" |
| 10:55.44 | Shizen | cool... |
| 10:55.51 | Shizen | I'm roung |
| 10:55.53 | Shizen | I never knew that :P |
| 10:56.06 | Shirik | ~dict roung |
| 10:56.20 | Shizen | heheh |
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| 10:56.34 | Kalroth | ~dict rang |
| 10:56.45 | Kalroth | Maybe he means 'rang' |
| 10:57.05 | Shizen | or rung |
| 10:57.07 | Shizen | ~dict rung |
| 10:57.08 | Shirik | a toroidal shape? Are you serious? |
| 10:57.13 | Shizen | well |
| 10:57.15 | Shizen | toroid == ring |
| 10:57.20 | Shirik | or rung |
| 10:57.23 | Shizen | ring being a verb -> rang -> rung |
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| 10:57.28 | Shirik | well, it would go on a rung |
| 10:57.37 | Shirik | but I don't think it's a rang |
| 10:57.43 | Shizen | mmmhmm |
| 10:57.48 | Kalroth | rung could be a typo of rug |
| 10:57.57 | Kalroth | So maybe he meant a rug |
| 10:58.07 | Shizen | his info is a rug ? |
| 10:58.11 | Shizen | like... persian rug ? |
| 10:58.14 | Shirik | Somehow I don't think a "roung rug" would sell well |
| 10:58.18 | Kalroth | Valueable info |
| 10:58.41 | Kalroth | "Your password is a persian rug, please try again" |
| 10:58.48 | Shizen | gehehehe |
| 10:58.53 | Wobin | Maybe he's Scooby Doo. |
| 10:58.59 | Kalroth | haha |
| 10:59.01 | Shizen | Rutroh ? |
| 11:00.02 | Shirik | So Shizen I have to ask |
| 11:00.05 | Shirik | how did you find us? |
| 11:00.10 | Shizen | errr |
| 11:00.16 | Shizen | wowinterface dotcom ? |
| 11:00.20 | Shizen | checking the forum |
| 11:00.25 | Shizen | I see someone mentioning the channel |
| 11:00.26 | Shirik | ok :) just curious |
| 11:00.32 | Shizen | by instinct I connect to freenode |
| 11:00.37 | Shizen | and indeed it's here :o |
| 11:00.54 | Shizen | although I think I've been here once before by /list |
| 11:02.15 | Shirik | --> return string.dump(function() return -nil; end) |
| 11:02.16 | batbot | b000000 |
| 11:02.16 | batbot | 00000000000000 |
| 11:02.16 | batbot | 000 |
| 11:02.20 | Shirik | gr, that's not useful |
| 11:02.33 | Shirik | --> return string.format("%q", string.dump(function() return -nil; end)) |
| 11:02.33 | batbot | b0000000000000000 |
| 11:02.33 | batbot | 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 |
| 11:02.33 | batbot | 000000000 |
| 11:03.07 | Shizen | -nil :o |
| 11:03.12 | Shirik | b0000000000000000 |
| 11:03.12 | Shirik | 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 |
| 11:03.12 | Shirik | 000000000 |
| 11:03.30 | Shirik | Where did my ) go |
| 11:03.54 | Shirik | That's actually kinda awesome, in a "wtf" kinda way |
| 11:03.55 | Shizen | no idea |
| 11:03.58 | Shizen | rofl |
| 11:04.01 | Shirik | I totally typed it, I just double checked |
| 11:04.17 | Shirik | oh well |
| 11:04.33 | Shirik | Yes Shizen, don't try this at home. We are trained professionals :D |
| 11:04.51 | Shirik | -nil is only for the insane Lua coders |
| 11:04.54 | Shizen | meh I have sandbox computer I can test stuffs at ;P |
| 11:04.56 | Shirik | insane is not a good thing btw |
| 11:05.09 | Shizen | insane is good... at times... with a touch of controlled psyche |
| 11:05.17 | Shirik | I'm very mad at my interpreter atm |
| 11:05.25 | Shirik | it's half patched, but it's patched to the point that it won't crash |
| 11:05.40 | Shirik | It's like Cide, it sits there laughing at you because the bug is there, you just can't do anything with it |
| 11:06.22 | Cide | Shizen: owned |
| 11:06.33 | Shizen | grrrrr it's STILL not working |
| 11:06.44 | Shirik | >>> assert(loadstring(string.dump(function() return -nil end)))() |
| 11:06.50 | Shirik | Yeah you should fix that Cide :P |
| 11:07.02 | Cide | fix how? |
| 11:07.03 | Shirik | Go get 5.1.3! |
| 11:07.07 | Cide | meh |
| 11:07.16 | Cide | not a big deal |
| 11:07.28 | Shirik | Big deal if someone comes in all like "RAWR SEGFAULT" |
| 11:07.31 | Shirik | but I'm not like that :P |
| 11:07.43 | Shirik | kinda |
| 11:07.51 | Shirik | actually I am, but I do it in a "see, I care about you" kinda way |
| 11:08.06 | Shirik | <3 |
| 11:08.06 | Shizen | grrrrr |
| 11:08.12 | Shizen | must... kill... |
| 11:08.18 | Cide | has cogwheel compiled lua 5.1.3 with his additions? |
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| 11:08.23 | Shirik | Probably not |
| 11:08.24 | Cide | I appreciate it Shirik |
| 11:08.26 | Shirik | it's not even released yet |
| 11:08.29 | Cide | oh |
| 11:08.31 | Cide | then fuck that |
| 11:08.34 | Shirik | It's at rc5 |
| 11:08.45 | Shirik | pretty damn stable, the only bug I've found in it so far was also present in 5.1.2 |
| 11:09.04 | Shirik | And I already posted to lua-l with a patch so |
| 11:09.11 | Shirik | though they didn't like my patch |
| 11:09.31 | Shizen | goddamnit ! |
| 11:09.42 | Tem | god damnit |
| 11:09.43 | Shirik | The suggested patch is not ANSI C: int n = (int)(((unsigned int)-1) >> 1); |
| 11:09.44 | Tem | it's 5 am again |
| 11:09.47 | Tem | and I'm still awake |
| 11:09.49 | Shizen | oh... |
| 11:09.56 | Shirik | I liked that line! I thought it was clever |
| 11:09.57 | Shizen | OH... my goodness... I'm so... |
| 11:10.05 | Shizen | okay, error existed between chair and keyboard rofl |
| 11:10.13 | Cide | Shirik: cast -1 to unsigned? nice |
| 11:10.21 | Cide | what the hell does that do? |
| 11:10.22 | Shizen | I'm stupid >< |
| 11:10.25 | Tem|AFK | Shirik, l2compile with ANSI pedantic on |
| 11:10.35 | Shirik | It's my hackish way of finding the maximum integer |
| 11:10.44 | Cide | ah |
| 11:10.51 | Shirik | (unsigned int)-1 is 2^(sizeof(int)*8) |
| 11:10.54 | Shirik | er |
| 11:10.57 | Shirik | (unsigned int)-1 is 2^(sizeof(int)*8)-1 |
| 11:11.08 | Tem|AFK | pow |
| 11:12.54 | Shirik | Shizen: That's what you get for using XML |
| 11:13.05 | Shizen | >_> |
| 11:13.21 | Shirik | Don't mind me, I just have this anti-XML thing |
| 11:13.26 | Shizen | I'm just following exmaples |
| 11:13.29 | Shizen | *examples |
| 11:13.33 | Shirik | most people think I'm crazy, and they're probably right |
| 11:13.39 | Shizen | and there doesn't seem to be much of those around, you know |
| 11:16.15 | Shirik | $ wc -l `find */*.lua` `find *.lua` |
| 11:16.23 | Shizen | you... |
| 11:16.28 | Shizen | is that a bash interface ? |
| 11:16.30 | Shirik | 7761 total |
| 11:16.53 | Shirik | $ wc -l `find */*.xml` `find *.xml` |
| 11:16.53 | Shirik | find: `*/*.xml': No such file or directory |
| 11:16.53 | Shirik | find: `*.xml': No such file or directory |
| 11:17.03 | Shirik | I'm proud of Conspiracy's nearly 10 klocs with no XML :) |
| 11:17.05 | batrick | find is a marvelous command |
| 11:17.13 | Shizen | yeh |
| 11:17.23 | Cide | Shirik: proud? why? :P |
| 11:17.25 | Cide | Shizen: change name |
| 11:17.28 | Shizen | well I'll omit XML if I know how to do stuffs without it, Shirik |
| 11:17.28 | Shirik | Because XML is EVIL |
| 11:17.34 | Shizen | as of right now I don't even know anything yet |
| 11:17.36 | Shizen | Cide : why |
| 11:17.37 | Cide | you're ninjaing my tab key |
| 11:17.42 | Cide | when I'm trying to type Shirik |
| 11:17.42 | Shizen | tab-difficulty ? bwahahahah |
| 11:17.44 | Shizen | no wai |
| 11:17.45 | Shirik | Now you know how I feel about Cidan! |
| 11:17.50 | Shizen | hahahaha |
| 11:17.52 | Shizen | hahahahahah |
| 11:18.05 | Shizen | Cide Cidan Cidan Cide |
| 11:18.17 | Shizen | Shirik Shizen Shizen Shirik Shizen |
| 11:18.32 | Cide | Shizen: Shizen Shizen Shizen Shizen Shizen Shizen |
| 11:18.39 | Shirik | hm |
| 11:18.47 | Shirik | yey |
| 11:18.57 | Shirik | Heh I'm not that mean |
| 11:19.01 | Cide | you banned yourself? :P |
| 11:19.01 | Wobin | Shi shi shi, shi shi shi, shi shi shi shi shi |
| 11:19.12 | Shirik | I can't ban myself, CS will still let me in |
| 11:19.14 | Shirik | I think |
| 11:19.30 | Cide | don't think so |
| 11:19.33 | Shirik | If I don't come back, this is a good reason for me to go to sleep anyway |
| 11:19.34 | batrick | not like it's hard to get around |
| 11:19.35 | Shizen | >_> |
| 11:19.37 | Cide | there's /cs unban for that reason |
| 11:19.46 | Shizen | and /cs invite |
| 11:19.50 | Shizen | which will invalidate the ban |
| 11:19.51 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+b Shirik!*@*] by Shirik |
| 11:19.53 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Shirik (n=skullsho@conspiracy/developer/Shirik) |
| 11:20.15 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [-b Shirik!*@*] by ChanServ |
| 11:20.22 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Shirik (n=skullsho@conspiracy/developer/Shirik) |
| 11:20.22 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 11:20.24 | Shirik | that's stupid |
| 11:20.29 | Cide | told you :P |
| 11:20.36 | Shirik | also why did it take 5 years for CS to clear my ban |
| 11:20.49 | Shizen | because you're not fast enough ? |
| 11:21.02 | Shizen | actually services usually have a 'delay' to prevent abuse |
| 11:21.14 | Shizen | not sure if it applies to freenode's |
| 11:21.14 | Cide | now change name |
| 11:21.19 | Cide | so I can tab-complete Shirik |
| 11:21.25 | Shizen | no wai |
| 11:21.30 | Cide | I'm serious |
| 11:21.32 | Shirik | (06:19:34) /cs unban #wowi-lounge |
| 11:21.36 | Shizen | >_> |
| 11:21.38 | Shirik | (06:19:48) -› [notice from ChanServ]: All (1) bans matching [Shirik!n=skullsho@conspiracy/developer/Shirik] and [Shirik!n=skullsho@2002:44cc:9fc2:0:0:0:44cc:9fc2] have been cleared on #WoWI-lounge |
| 11:21.41 | Shizen | I'm serious as well |
| 11:21.49 | Cide | yeah, but I have voice |
| 11:22.11 | Cide | oh come on |
| 11:22.15 | Cide | don't be so boring |
| 11:22.16 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [-v Cide] by Shirik |
| 11:22.20 | Shizen | rofl |
| 11:22.20 | Cide | bitch! |
| 11:22.22 | Shirik | I'm having too much fun |
| 11:22.25 | Shirik | I need to go to sleep |
| 11:22.31 | batrick | shirik can u give ops |
| 11:22.37 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+v Cide] by Shirik |
| 11:22.42 | batrick | >:) |
| 11:22.51 | Shirik | can? Sure. Would I? Helllls no |
| 11:22.55 | Shirik | Cairenn|afk would kill me |
| 11:22.56 | Shizen | anyway |
| 11:23.01 | Shizen | back to poking around my addons |
| 11:23.06 | Shizen | finally got it to response! darn |
| 11:23.07 | batrick | sif |
| 11:23.10 | Shirik | I think she's already going to kill me |
| 11:23.15 | batrick | for? |
| 11:23.17 | Shizen | Shirik : teach me methods that would not require me to use xml next time |
| 11:23.21 | Shirik | but oh well, I can blame it on the fact that it's HOLY CRAP ALREADY 6:22 AM |
| 11:23.26 | Shizen | rofl |
| 11:27.23 | Shirik | ok, I'm going to sleep I guess |
| 11:29.36 | batrick | casual |
| 11:30.58 | Shirik|zZz | casual? |
| 11:31.22 | Shizen | go to sleep, rofl |
| 11:32.15 | Shirik|zZz | hm, my server's down |
| 11:32.17 | Shirik|zZz | I blame at&t |
| 11:32.34 | batrick | srsly |
| 11:32.45 | Shirik|zZz | can anyone else get to http://www.guardianhq.com ? |
| 11:32.54 | Shirik|zZz | I think my database server died |
| 11:33.04 | batrick | nope |
| 11:33.10 | batrick | no dice |
| 11:33.16 | Shizen | hmm |
| 11:33.16 | batrick | o wait... |
| 11:33.20 | Shizen | what's TABARD_CANSAVE ? |
| 11:33.20 | Shirik|zZz | fixed it |
| 11:33.21 | Shirik|zZz | yey |
| 11:33.28 | batrick | works now... slowly |
| 11:33.36 | Shizen | it seems to be as repetitive as OnUpdate |
| 11:33.42 | Shirik|zZz | It was at&t |
| 11:33.51 | batrick | at&T is fucking sucking today |
| 11:34.07 | Shirik|zZz | oi, my database is very unhappy |
| 11:34.10 | Shirik|zZz | I'll look at it tomorrow |
| 11:34.19 | Shirik|zZz | it works for 10 seconds and then gets mad again |
| 11:34.23 | Shizen | whoa Betsy |
| 11:34.27 | Shizen | Shirik : you use DevTools ? |
| 11:34.32 | Shirik|zZz | course |
| 11:34.39 | Shizen | how ye dump these ? |
| 11:34.41 | Shirik|zZz | every one of my screenshots has the little [#] in it |
| 11:34.48 | batrick | night all |
| 11:34.48 | Shizen | it's like 100000000 events at the same time XD |
| 11:34.49 | Shirik|zZz | Hell my JAVA applications have screenshots of it in there |
| 11:35.00 | Shirik|zZz | You can turn off events you aren't worried about |
| 11:35.05 | Shizen | well yes |
| 11:35.05 | Shirik|zZz | click on the question mark |
| 11:35.10 | Shizen | but it goes on again everytime I reload |
| 11:35.19 | Shizen | and I reload constantly ! |
| 11:39.17 | Shirik|zZz | hahaha |
| 11:39.22 | Shirik|zZz | Today's vgcats is awesome |
| 11:39.30 | Shirik|zZz | I was complaining last night about how they haven't been updating on time |
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| 11:40.32 | Shizen | hmm |
| 11:40.36 | Shizen | you're not sleeping yet Shirik ? |
| 11:40.41 | Shirik|zZz | not exactly |
| 11:40.45 | Shizen | okay |
| 11:40.46 | Shirik|zZz | You can assume I'm asleep |
| 11:40.53 | Shizen | any better way to go about with this ? |
| 11:41.02 | Shirik|zZz | don't use "this" it's ba |
| 11:41.03 | Shirik|zZz | d |
| 11:41.16 | Shizen | instead of setting a global for something like "MERCHANTEVENT" == 1 |
| 11:41.23 | Shizen | can I detect events inside and event ? |
| 11:41.29 | Shirik|zZz | yes |
| 11:41.34 | Shizen | *an |
| 11:41.38 | Shizen | oookay, how ? |
| 11:41.45 | Shirik|zZz | How are you doing your OnEvent handler, in xml? |
| 11:42.04 | Shizen | OnEvent EventHandlerFunc( self, event, ... ) |
| 11:42.05 | Shirik|zZz | Do you go <OnEvent> someCode </OnEvent> |
| 11:42.07 | Shirik|zZz | ok |
| 11:42.20 | Shirik|zZz | event is the variable |
| 11:42.25 | Shirik|zZz | it will tell you what event it is |
| 11:42.44 | Corrodias | can you detect events inside out? |
| 11:42.44 | Shirik|zZz | ok if that didn't answer your question I don't know what your question was |
| 11:42.54 | Shizen | well... |
| 11:42.56 | Shizen | okay |
| 11:42.58 | Shizen | I assume |
| 11:43.07 | Shizen | I can do another if event inside another execution of an if event ? |
| 11:43.52 | Shizen | if ( event == "EVENT1" ) then if ( event == "ANOTHEREVENT" ) <- this work ? :o |
| 11:43.56 | Shirik|zZz | yes |
| 11:44.03 | Shizen | O.o you don't say ! |
| 11:44.04 | Shirik|zZz | well, wait |
| 11:44.07 | nevcairiel | how should that work |
| 11:44.10 | Shirik|zZz | that will never be true |
| 11:44.12 | nevcairiel | event is just a variable |
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| 11:44.27 | Shirik|zZz | two events can't happen at the same time |
| 11:44.31 | Shirik|zZz | they will occur one at a time |
| 11:44.32 | Shizen | exactly |
| 11:44.53 | nevcairiel | and even if they did, one variable can only contain one string :D |
| 11:44.55 | Shizen | so my best bet is to toggle a global saying that "this event is / has occured" |
| 11:45.07 | Shirik|zZz | preferably not a global, but yes |
| 11:45.14 | Shizen | and then trigger for another event and the combination tells me that, say, I'm gaining money from merchant |
| 11:45.18 | Shizen | or losing to one |
| 11:45.39 | Shirik|zZz | >>> return debug |
| 11:45.39 | Cide | Shirik|zZz: { ["getupvalue"] = function: 0019A9A8, ["debug"] = function: 0019A888, ["sethook"] = function: 0019A9E8, ["getmetatable"] = function: 0019A988, ["gethook"] = function: 0019A8C8, ["setmetatable"] = fun... (exceeded 200 characters) |
| 11:46.14 | Shizen | hmm... you can, however, gain money through trade while having a merchant window open though, right ? |
| 11:46.27 | Shizen | although I guess I can put a detect of a trade event there as well... ...... hmmmm |
| 11:46.37 | nevcairiel | i think trading closes all merchant windows |
| 11:46.38 | Xinhuan | never really used "getupvalue" before, can you specify how many layers up to get? |
| 11:46.43 | Shizen | oh ? |
| 11:46.49 | Shizen | I forgot if it does or doesn't... |
| 11:47.04 | Shizen | nobody around to try... well... there's some strangers around but meh... |
| 11:47.05 | Shirik|zZz | you really shouldn't use it |
| 11:47.12 | Shirik|zZz | (@ Xinhuan) |
| 11:47.23 | Shizen | Shirik which realm are you in :o |
| 11:47.32 | Shirik|zZz | Difficult question |
| 11:47.33 | Xinhuan | and yet people use getglobal :D |
| 11:47.34 | Shirik|zZz | Eredar and Drenden |
| 11:47.37 | Shizen | okay... |
| 11:47.41 | Shizen | which do you frequent the most rofl |
| 11:47.42 | Shirik|zZz | Xinhuan: getupvalue is part of the debug library :) |
| 11:47.50 | Xinhuan | so is getglobal |
| 11:47.56 | Shirik|zZz | Drenden on the character Kimina |
| 11:47.59 | Shirik|zZz | >>> getupvalue |
| 11:48.00 | Cide | Shirik|zZz: nil |
| 11:48.02 | nevcairiel | you shouldnt really use getglobal either |
| 11:48.06 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 11:48.09 | Shirik|zZz | Xinhuan: getupvalue doesn't exist in the global environment :P |
| 11:48.13 | Shizen | getglobal... |
| 11:48.18 | Shizen | is that like STL's getglobal ? |
| 11:48.19 | Xinhuan | that's about the only difference |
| 11:48.31 | Xinhuan | but most debug.xxx calls are available in _G |
| 11:48.39 | Shirik|zZz | Xinhuan: The stuff in the debug library really is intended for non-production use |
| 11:48.46 | Shirik|zZz | debug.setmetatable, for example, is rather unsafe |
| 11:49.01 | Shizen | meh |
| 11:49.22 | Shizen | that's the umpteenth time I dragged DevTools' DTEvents window up and I can't drag it back rofl |
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| 11:52.38 | Shirik|zZz | well this is odd |
| 11:53.00 | Shizen | hmmm |
| 11:53.02 | Shizen | cvar update... |
| 11:53.19 | Shirik|zZz | lol, Cide refuses to give me results |
| 11:53.24 | Shirik|zZz | I have no idea if I'm on the right track or not |
| 11:55.14 | Shizen | hmm |
| 11:55.26 | Shizen | I think I should go and track all the events first rather than continuously reloading >_> |
| 11:55.39 | Cide | Shirik|zZz: you're winning? |
| 11:55.44 | Cide | I can't tell |
| 11:55.49 | Shirik|zZz | Well |
| 11:55.51 | Shirik|zZz | I can't either! |
| 11:55.57 | Shizen | winning what |
| 11:55.59 | Shirik|zZz | Your bot keeps doing |
| 11:56.03 | Shirik|zZz | (06:55:05) (Cide) Shirik|zZz: |
| 11:56.06 | Shirik|zZz | Even if I do an error() |
| 11:56.11 | Cide | nice |
| 11:56.35 | Shirik|zZz | And I don't know what the hell you did but it seems to be silently blocking me |
| 11:56.49 | Cide | I dunno |
| 11:56.53 | Cide | I don't have any blocks |
| 11:57.41 | Cide | Shirik|zZz: my guess is that execution stops before the result is saved to disk |
| 11:57.52 | Cide | how you succeeded with that I dunno |
| 11:57.59 | Shirik|zZz | It shouldn't |
| 11:58.04 | Shirik|zZz | It should kick you off IRC |
| 11:58.16 | Cide | why? |
| 11:58.24 | Shirik|zZz | Because I told it too? >< |
| 11:58.32 | Cide | it's escaped in python, not lua :P |
| 11:58.47 | Shirik|zZz | I'm going back to the old \nQUIT : tricks |
| 11:59.03 | Cide | I don't think you can get that working |
| 11:59.08 | Cide | since it's escaped in python and not lua |
| 11:59.09 | Shirik|zZz | Old tricks, new method |
| 11:59.15 | Shirik|zZz | ah |
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| 11:59.34 | Shirik|zZz | I guess that's a good way of doing it |
| 11:59.38 | Shirik|zZz | I was trying to override your tostring |
| 11:59.45 | Shirik|zZz | but apparently all I was doing was killing tostring |
| 12:00.04 | Cide | which probably just kills the output to python |
| 12:02.31 | Shirik|zZz | ah I see what's going on |
| 12:03.54 | Shirik|zZz | yup |
| 12:03.59 | Shirik|zZz | there's the error message |
| 12:04.24 | Shirik|zZz | If I cause a deep error in your program, then it just spits back nothing to me :P |
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| 12:07.14 | Shizen | sploits |
| 12:08.51 | Shizen | hmmm |
| 12:09.06 | Shizen | should make a suggestion to make DevTools undraggable beyond the top edge |
| 12:09.10 | Shizen | I just lost it again rofl |
| 12:10.13 | Shizen | wow... what's trainer's event ? |
| 12:12.24 | Shirik|zZz | Okay Cide I giveu p |
| 12:12.35 | Shizen | hmm |
| 12:12.37 | Shizen | it's GOSSIP_SHOW |
| 12:12.38 | Shirik|zZz | as dangerous as that seems to me, I can't find anything to destroy with it |
| 12:12.44 | Shizen | and immediately followed by GOSSIP_CLOSE |
| 12:12.52 | Shirik|zZz | But I'm keeping an eye on you! |
| 12:13.08 | Shirik|zZz | <3 Cide night |
| 12:13.13 | Cide | night |
| 12:13.52 | Shizen | oh I'm silly |
| 12:13.57 | Shizen | there it is in TRAINER |
| 12:14.01 | Shizen | g'night Shirik |
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| 12:21.17 | Shizen | hmmm |
| 12:21.28 | Shizen | yeah why am I using globals on this... |
| 12:21.39 | Shizen | I could use a local that's in scope of the EventHandler function >_> |
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| 12:38.16 | Shizen | hmm |
| 12:38.16 | Shizen | Cide |
| 12:38.19 | Shizen | you here still ? :o |
| 12:39.14 | Shizen | or anyone for that matter >_> |
| 12:39.19 | JoshBorke | nope |
| 12:39.20 | JoshBorke | not a soul |
| 12:39.28 | Shizen | awww too bad |
| 12:39.37 | JoshBorke | indeed |
| 12:39.38 | Shizen | guess no one know if % operator works in LUA then... |
| 12:39.38 | krka | Shizen: Lua is not an acronym. It is a Portuguese word that means moon. |
| 12:39.56 | JoshBorke | lua> print(5%2) |
| 12:39.56 | lua_bot | JoshBorke: 1 |
| 12:40.00 | JoshBorke | looks like it |
| 12:40.04 | Shizen | hehehe |
| 12:40.16 | Shizen | that tricks does it all the time ;P |
| 12:40.21 | Shizen | thanks o/ |
| 12:40.37 | JoshBorke | you can always just try it :_D |
| 12:40.48 | Shizen | well I'm not quite used to this channel yet :o |
| 12:40.57 | Shizen | nor to Lua |
| 12:41.00 | Shizen | but anyway... |
| 12:41.12 | Kalroth | KRKA: Why did you say that about LUA?! |
| 12:44.13 | JoshBorke | Kalroth: because it's true =P |
| 12:44.49 | Kalroth | JoshBorke: I know, I was trying to troll my way towards his nickname, now hush! |
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| 12:49.00 | JoshBorke | he's not here :-P |
| 12:51.08 | cncfanatics | hi all |
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| 12:52.51 | Shizen | lesse if this crash... |
| 12:53.00 | Shizen | w00t it does rofl |
| 12:57.19 | Shizen | okay... now I'm annoyed >_> |
| 12:58.52 | Shizen | lua> print(1&&1) |
| 12:58.52 | lua_bot | Shizen: sandbox.lua:298: Compilation failed: [string "print(1&&1)"]:1: ')' expected near '&' |
| 12:58.58 | Shizen | rawr |
| 12:59.01 | Shizen | lua> print(1&1) |
| 12:59.01 | lua_bot | Shizen: sandbox.lua:298: Compilation failed: [string "print(1&1)"]:1: ')' expected near '&' |
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| 12:59.09 | JoshBorke | what is &? |
| 12:59.17 | JoshBorke | lua uses and / or |
| 12:59.18 | JoshBorke | ~pil |
| 12:59.18 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 12:59.23 | Shizen | >_> |
| 12:59.30 | Shizen | no wonder... |
| 12:59.38 | Shizen | sorry... C++ habit |
| 13:00.03 | Shizen | it doesn't need correct parentheses encapsulation does it ? |
| 13:00.06 | Shizen | I mean... |
| 13:00.21 | Shizen | hmmm... |
| 13:00.32 | Shizen | lua> print((1) and (1)) |
| 13:00.32 | lua_bot | Shizen: 1 |
| 13:00.45 | Shizen | lua> print(1 and 1) |
| 13:00.45 | lua_bot | Shizen: 1 |
| 13:05.11 | Cide | right |
| 13:05.14 | Cide | it uses short circuit logic |
| 13:05.41 | Cide | "a and b" returns b if a evaluates to true, otherwise a |
| 13:06.05 | Cide | "a or b" returns a if a evaluates to true, otherwise b |
| 13:06.41 | Cide | b is not evaluated if a evaluates to false in "and", and not if a evaluates to true in "or" |
| 13:06.51 | Cide | "1 and 1" thus returns 1 |
| 13:06.58 | Cide | as is evident above |
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| 13:12.20 | art3mis | hrm wierd |
| 13:12.46 | art3mis | in the last few days or so something has magically decided to make my power supply insanely hot |
| 13:12.58 | Shizen | lua> print(640%100) |
| 13:12.58 | lua_bot | Shizen: 40 |
| 13:13.04 | Shizen | hrmmm |
| 13:15.02 | Shizen | grrrrr |
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| 13:23.42 | Shizen | now I see what's wrong! |
| 13:23.52 | Shizen | it was wrong of me to use Wordpad to edit Lua in the first place |
| 13:24.49 | krka | lua> print(1 and 1, 1 and 0, 0 and 0, 1 or 0, 1 or 1) |
| 13:24.49 | lua_bot | krka: 1, 0, 0, 1, 1 |
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| 13:29.22 | Shizen | haha that was funny |
| 13:29.48 | Shizen | I thought there was something wrong with my function when it was actually the instance of CALLING that function that's producing nil |
| 13:29.53 | Shizen | since I put AddMessage instead of producing a return value |
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| 13:57.01 | Shizen | hmm |
| 13:58.45 | Shizen | lua> (990360%10000) |
| 13:58.45 | lua_bot | Shizen: 360 |
| 13:59.11 | Shizen | lua> (990360%100) |
| 13:59.11 | lua_bot | Shizen: 60 |
| 14:05.04 | Shizen | lua> (990360%1000000) |
| 14:05.04 | lua_bot | Shizen: 990360 |
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| 14:19.10 | krka | #wowi-lounge - teaching modulo operations to visitors since 2003 |
| 14:19.18 | ralfWORK | yea I guess so! |
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| 14:29.23 | End | At least you didn't get malreth as a result, since malreth is an error condition |
| 14:29.38 | malreth | :D |
| 14:29.53 | Kalroth | End: do /me myself! |
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| 14:37.32 | ralfWORK | !!! |
| 14:39.13 | Lopeppeppy | zomg, oh no. The hamsters win. |
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| 15:17.55 | art3mis | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/technology/technology.html?in_article_id=509830&in_page_id=1965 |
| 15:18.54 | ralfWORK | SAVAGE FROND |
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| 15:48.54 | malreth | Today's bizarre Office 2008 bug: Most of the installed files and top level directories are set to be installed with the owner ID set to 502. |
| 15:49.09 | nevcairiel | who is 502? |
| 15:49.42 | malreth | which means if your admin user is id 501 (as is by default) and you have a standard user created (which gets the next id: 502), they now have ownership of certain top level folders in /Library and /Applications |
| 15:49.50 | malreth | oops... o_o |
| 15:50.09 | ralfWORK | uhm |
| 15:50.15 | ralfWORK | gg microsoft? |
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| 15:51.01 | malreth | and since the BOM has that info stored in it... if you create a script to mass chown them all to what they should be and you forget to remove the installation receipt, if you ever run the Fix Permissions in Disk Utility, it'll helpfully revert your fixes |
| 15:52.53 | malreth | yeah.. it's a completely elementary goof on Microsoft's part |
| 15:53.08 | malreth | well, Microsoft's MBU's part |
| 15:56.43 | art3mis | you're forgetting though that up until vista microsofts big user sercurity was to have the saved data in different folders ;P |
| 16:00.18 | Industrial | hm |
| 16:00.25 | Industrial | you cant make mana drinks with cooking right? |
| 16:01.03 | Shizen | there's Sagefish |
| 16:01.16 | zenzelezz | I assume he means food that directly restore mana |
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| 16:02.18 | Shizen | hmmm |
| 16:02.23 | Shizen | lemme check my rogue |
| 16:02.31 | Industrial | yes like drinks |
| 16:02.51 | Industrial | I respecced balance on my 30 druid for fun |
| 16:03.02 | Industrial | but I expect my money balance to be less fun |
| 16:03.05 | Industrial | :\ |
| 16:03.13 | Industrial | cause of all the water i have to buy |
| 16:04.32 | ralfWORK | hehehe |
| 16:04.39 | ralfWORK | you need alot of water as boomkin |
| 16:04.49 | Industrial | I'm also uncertain about what item stats to stack. I have 120 int 100 spirit now |
| 16:04.58 | ralfWORK | I hate low levels |
| 16:05.02 | ralfWORK | where you can't stack +dmg |
| 16:05.53 | Shizen | well |
| 16:06.01 | Shizen | Sagefish delight does restore mana |
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| 16:06.43 | ralfWORK | true |
| 16:07.28 | Industrial | ralfWORK: its possible now but youll have to really look for all the items and maybe spend alot on the AH |
| 16:07.32 | Shizen | and |
| 16:07.41 | Shizen | the next food that does restore mana as well as health |
| 16:07.49 | Shizen | is Hot Buttered Trout |
| 16:07.53 | End | instance drops give a lot more spell damage than they used to |
| 16:07.57 | Shizen | level 65 :P |
| 16:08.08 | End | and by a lot more, I mean they actually do instead of just stam/int/etc |
| 16:08.08 | Shizen | Sagefish being level 30 |
| 16:08.11 | ralfWORK | ya, that's true |
| 16:08.14 | Shizen | that's 35 levels XD |
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| 16:08.18 | ralfWORK | I'm just spoiled |
| 16:08.24 | ralfWORK | when I see 1k damage on my priest |
| 16:08.32 | ralfWORK | and see +20 dmg on my boomkin |
| 16:08.34 | ralfWORK | I'm like wtf |
| 16:08.51 | Industrial | :p |
| 16:09.05 | ralfWORK | I did the math today |
| 16:09.16 | ralfWORK | for 120 badges, I can put 10 more damage on him |
| 16:10.19 | Shizen | hmmm |
| 16:10.20 | Industrial | ralfWORK: eh? 120 badges of what? what elvel is he? |
| 16:10.30 | ralfWORK | heroic badges |
| 16:10.30 | Shizen | does local vars retain their value on function return ? |
| 16:10.31 | ralfWORK | 70 |
| 16:10.41 | Shizen | or do I need to globalize all my local vars >_> |
| 16:10.48 | ralfWORK | (was referring to my priest, sorry) |
| 16:11.10 | Industrial | ralfWORK: l2pvp? :P |
| 16:11.11 | Industrial | ah okay |
| 16:11.20 | ralfWORK | naw, I hate PVP on my priest |
| 16:11.22 | art3mis | http://www.rlslog.net/riaa-website-hacked-by-sql-injection/ |
| 16:11.28 | Industrial | haha |
| 16:11.35 | art3mis | THAT is awesome script kiddiness |
| 16:11.35 | ralfWORK | wow that's pretty good! |
| 16:11.44 | Industrial | Shizen: what do you mean exactly? pastey.net :) |
| 16:11.46 | malreth | Shizen: local variables are limited to the scope of the block of code they are contained within |
| 16:11.58 | Cidan | what a boring day. |
| 16:11.59 | Cidan | bleh |
| 16:12.00 | Shizen | malreth : yes, I understand that |
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| 16:12.15 | Shizen | what I mean is, if I return the function after one event end, and then comes back into that function on another event |
| 16:12.20 | malreth | Shizen: so if the local variable is declared inside a function, it's value is lost when the function ends |
| 16:12.20 | dylanm | Shizen: Might want to just post what you're looking at. In some sense closures can keep a variable going outside of its block. |
| 16:12.25 | Shizen | would the local vars I set on the previous event retains ? |
| 16:12.31 | Shizen | ah |
| 16:12.34 | malreth | and then there are closures and upvalues |
| 16:12.34 | Shizen | gotcha malreth |
| 16:12.45 | dylanm | No. You'll have to store them elsewhere. Don't make them global but move them up. |
| 16:12.54 | malreth | but you don't have to make it global to retain the value |
| 16:13.00 | ralfWORK | globals *shudder* |
| 16:13.03 | malreth | like what dylanm said |
| 16:13.04 | Shizen | welp |
| 16:13.08 | Shizen | it can be local to the addons ;P |
| 16:13.15 | Shizen | just not local to the EventHandler |
| 16:13.26 | malreth | yes... well local to the file |
| 16:13.48 | Shizen | well... locvars can be saved into SavedVariables as well can't they ? |
| 16:13.53 | malreth | no |
| 16:13.55 | dylanm | So perhaps declare local blah; function youreventhandlerlol() dostufftoblah end |
| 16:13.59 | Shizen | okay, globals for that then |
| 16:13.59 | malreth | saved variables must be global |
| 16:14.05 | Shizen | gotcha |
| 16:15.30 | malreth | http://twitter.com/Ackbar <-- this guy makes me teh laffs |
| 16:19.13 | Industrial | I see that I really need spelldamage over int/spi |
| 16:19.27 | malreth | Industrial: talking about a mage? |
| 16:19.36 | Industrial | my 30 balance druid |
| 16:19.42 | Industrial | just specced to balance |
| 16:19.44 | malreth | ah... nm |
| 16:21.09 | Industrial | 1.65g/20water is expensive at level 30 :P |
| 16:21.55 | TecnoBrat | why are you spending 1.65g/20? |
| 16:22.28 | Industrial | cause thats what it costs :| |
| 16:23.23 | Industrial | TecnoBrat: where else would I get water from besides mages/shop ? |
| 16:23.27 | TecnoBrat | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=1708 |
| 16:23.42 | TecnoBrat | thats the best water you can use at level 30 |
| 16:23.47 | TecnoBrat | which is 10s for 5 |
| 16:24.17 | Industrial | thats not true, I can buy thise for 8s50c here for 1 |
| 16:24.55 | TecnoBrat | for 1? |
| 16:25.26 | TecnoBrat | what water are you buying? |
| 16:25.26 | Industrial | oh wait, 5 :Plol |
| 16:25.26 | TecnoBrat | LOL |
| 16:25.34 | haste | drunk Industrial is drunk |
| 16:25.37 | TecnoBrat | yea, so its like 34s for 20 |
| 16:25.39 | Industrial | shh :> |
| 16:25.42 | TecnoBrat | (You |
| 16:25.51 | TecnoBrat | You've got discounts from rep |
| 16:26.06 | Matrix110 | i wonder if Auctioneer will ever be able to use the complete instant scan feature from Blizzard... |
| 16:26.17 | Cidan | What instant scan feature? |
| 16:26.24 | dylanm | I assume it will whenever that gets re-enabled. |
| 16:26.38 | Matrix110 | Cidan you can pull of the whole AuctiionHouse in one command now |
| 16:26.44 | Matrix110 | every 15mins |
| 16:26.48 | Cidan | Huh. |
| 16:26.49 | Matrix110 | 2.3 feature |
| 16:26.51 | malreth | no you can't... hasn't been implemented yet |
| 16:26.59 | TecnoBrat | Matrix110, they disabled that |
| 16:26.59 | Matrix110 | erm? |
| 16:26.59 | dylanm | They turned that off like long ago. |
| 16:27.04 | malreth | they delayed that feature for now |
| 16:27.10 | Matrix110 | Oh |
| 16:27.10 | TecnoBrat | they took it out the day it was supposed to go live |
| 16:27.15 | zenzelezz | I believe it was implemented, just disabled server-side? |
| 16:27.22 | TecnoBrat | correct zenzelezz |
| 16:27.29 | Matrix110 | I thought just Auctioneer disabled it because it crashed the client |
| 16:27.35 | TecnoBrat | nope |
| 16:27.51 | Matrix110 | good to know |
| 16:27.52 | Cidan | Aye, I would imaigne that it's pretty complex. You would either have to make a copy of the AH every few minutes and then pull the table down to who wants it, or lock the table as you pull it. |
| 16:27.56 | Cidan | Hm |
| 16:27.57 | Cidan | I wonder how they did it. |
| 16:28.16 | malreth | Matrix110: other way around... it crashed the client so blizzard disabled it until they could find a way to make it work |
| 16:28.23 | malreth | well, not really crash.. |
| 16:28.30 | malreth | but it caused a disconnect |
| 16:28.30 | TecnoBrat | "overloaded" |
| 16:28.51 | Cidan | I imagine; that's a lot of data. |
| 16:28.59 | malreth | mentalpower could tell you more |
| 16:29.04 | TecnoBrat | yea, the client stopped doing everything else when it was getting the data |
| 16:29.12 | Matrix110 | i guess it worked in the test environment with some auctions but causes issues with more than a fewk k auctions |
| 16:29.12 | TecnoBrat | and then disconnected |
| 16:29.30 | Cidan | It's unlikely that the UI system in WoW is able to thread |
| 16:29.38 | Cidan | in fact, it doesn't, sooo |
| 16:29.47 | Cidan | They either need to fix that client side |
| 16:29.53 | Cidan | or burst the data, or something. |
| 16:30.16 | TecnoBrat | add threading imo |
| 16:30.24 | zenzelezz | if they wanted to thread it they could've made some completely locked-down function that would do so |
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| 16:30.56 | Cidan | well that makes things even more complex; UI coding in WoW has that advantage. You don't need to worry about deadlocks, and so on. |
| 16:31.23 | cogwheel | ding 10mil |
| 16:31.38 | TecnoBrat | 10mil what? |
| 16:31.38 | cogwheel | (probably oldnews to most of you /sigh) |
| 16:31.45 | cogwheel | http://blizzard.co.uk/press/080122.shtml |
| 16:32.12 | cogwheel | They're now ... what... two orders of magnitude ahead of the next biggest MMO? |
| 16:32.15 | haste | just read it on slashdot :p |
| 16:32.16 | Cidan | What I guess they could do is have the client execute a command to start getting the data, then a signal is raised when you get all of the data from the thread. Then all you had to do is listen to the signal and get the data. Hmm |
| 16:32.19 | malreth | no... all they have to do is make it so you call the function to request the data. then you wait until you get the U_HAS_A_AUKSHON_DATAs_NOW event and you process the massivehuge table then |
| 16:32.19 | cogwheel | or did LOTR break 1mil? |
| 16:32.27 | Cidan | cogwheel: 5.5 mil in Asia alone, :/ |
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| 16:32.49 | Cidan | malreth: great minds think alike? |
| 16:33.03 | zenzelezz | malreth: that's such a stupid event name... no-one would use a lower-case letter |
| 16:33.22 | TecnoBrat | Read the subscriber definition |
| 16:33.23 | malreth | zenzelezz: shut up! the lower-case letter makes it EPIC |
| 16:33.30 | TecnoBrat | thats the first time I have heard it defined |
| 16:33.43 | TecnoBrat | World of Warcraft subscribers include individuals who have paid a subscription fee or have an active prepaid card to play World of Warcraft, as well as those who have purchased the game and are within their free month of access. |
| 16:34.02 | zenzelezz | but not frozen accounts? |
| 16:34.11 | cogwheel | TecnoBrat: it's always been that way afaik |
| 16:34.16 | Cidan | no, frozen, disabled, free trial accounts do not count |
| 16:34.22 | TecnoBrat | The above definition excludes all players under free promotional subscriptions, expired or cancelled subscriptions, and expired prepaid cards. Subscribers in licensees' territories are defined along the same rules. |
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| 16:35.20 | Cidan | but anyone should take that announcement with a grain of salt. only ~2mil are state side, and ~2mil in europe |
| 16:35.22 | TecnoBrat | cogwheel, I just had never heard it actually defined |
| 16:35.37 | Cidan | which hey, 2mil is great. |
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| 17:10.22 | ScytheBlade1 | malreth: "Queue the deletes, Trev buddy. :)" nice |
| 17:10.35 | malreth | he's so predictable |
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| 17:19.43 | Saint-N | boobies! |
| 17:19.48 | Saint-N | yay \o/ |
| 17:19.58 | |pez| | Woo! boobies! |
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| 17:22.03 | esteth | Hey all. Anyone know of a way to get target-of-target casting bars in quartz? |
| 17:22.36 | cogwheel | esteth: /quartz |
| 17:22.45 | cogwheel | if you can do it, it's in the options menu |
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| 17:24.05 | esteth | cogwheel: Ah. I asked because i couldn't find it in the options menu. Will maybe poke around in the source for a bit then. Thanks anyways |
| 17:25.09 | cogwheel | do you have all its modules installed and enabled |
| 17:25.11 | cogwheel | ? |
| 17:25.55 | esteth | As far as i know i do. But i don't use WAU or any of those kind of things, and i havn't updated in a while, so i'll go grab the latest version and all the modules. See if that makes a difference. Thanks for the suggestion :) |
| 17:28.43 | esteth | Hmm. Still no option there. Probably just have to add it to the target-of-target pitbull frame |
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| 17:35.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Something weird happened to me yesterday. |
| 17:35.36 | ScytheBlade1 | I updated *all* of my addons, and not a one of them complained when I first started WoW. |
| 17:35.39 | ScytheBlade1 | I think that's a new record for me |
| 17:36.49 | malreth | i update all my addons every day pulling from sources like wowi, wowace, people's personal svn repos, etc. |
| 17:37.00 | malreth | i never know what will happen every time i log in |
| 17:37.30 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 17:37.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Living life on the edge! |
| 17:38.11 | malreth | if by 'living life' you mean 'playing wow' then yes |
| 17:38.25 | Josh_Borke | obviously they are the same thing |
| 17:38.49 | haste | I don't see why people update every day :p |
| 17:39.00 | Josh_Borke | me neither |
| 17:39.01 | haste | I update like... once every third month or when something breaks |
| 17:39.08 | haste | and even if it breaks.. I might just fix it myself |
| 17:39.10 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm pretty sure that was the first time I updated since... novemeber |
| 17:39.14 | Josh_Borke | i update things when i know something has been changed |
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| 17:44.49 | Xinhuan | "I am looking for a way to use click casting that allows me to cast two different spells with the same click, one when clicking grid the other for pitbul. (or any two types of unitframes)" -- is this possible? heh |
| 17:45.36 | Josh_Borke | yes, but not with the syntax that clique uses |
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| 17:53.10 | malreth | i go has a lunch now |
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| 17:55.20 | Saint-N | wheeeee |
| 17:55.36 | Josh_Borke | oh dear |
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| 17:57.16 | Josh_Borke | hm, wowi admins around? |
| 17:57.37 | Josh_Borke | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/a9402807651ea24faae09c1cb78ff875.jpg |
| 17:57.44 | Josh_Borke | that looks bad to me |
| 17:59.22 | Esamynn | Josh_Borke: jeez, well aren't you picky! :P |
| 18:00.58 | Josh_Borke | i know, i'm awful |
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| 18:03.46 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:03.47 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4032298916&postId=41178077833&sid=1#4 |
| 18:04.13 | esteth | I'm reading through cogwheel's macro guide on the wow ui forums, but i'm struggling to find a way to make a macro that: cast x on target if it's an enemy, otherwise cast x on targetstarget if targetstarget is an enemy, otherwise cast es on focus if focus is an enemy. It seems like it can be done, but I can't figure it out |
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| 18:04.57 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:05.28 | Shirik | Confirmation requested: http://www.guardianhq.com is down? |
| 18:05.37 | Shirik | yet pingable? |
| 18:05.41 | [dRaCo] | down |
| 18:05.50 | Shirik | thank you |
| 18:07.22 | Kalroth | Shirik: it works here |
| 18:07.42 | ScytheBlade1 | If anyone here multiboxes... if they wouldn't mind taking a look at that thread I just linked here (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4032298916&sid=1 ), it'd be greatly appreciated |
| 18:07.44 | Kalroth | a PotBS guild?! |
| 18:07.47 | Shirik | no it doesn't, you're making it up |
| 18:07.53 | Kalroth | Shirik: does too |
| 18:08.03 | Kalroth | "In taking steps to build our division in Pirates of the Burning Sea, Uncle and I have worked hard on recruiting members from in the game. During this experience, we have met a lot of awesome people and we proudly welcome them today." |
| 18:08.08 | Shirik | we don't call ourselves a guild, but yes, it's rather sad isn't it? |
| 18:08.22 | Kalroth | Not really |
| 18:08.36 | Shirik | I couldn't stand that game.... then they made me rewrite the application system so it would work for it |
| 18:08.44 | Kalroth | lol |
| 18:08.51 | Shirik | All the time I was sitting there doing stuff ilke |
| 18:09.00 | Shirik | //die |
| 18:09.30 | Shirik | But I dunno, I guess I haven't given it a fair chance |
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| 18:09.33 | Shirik | obviously some people like it |
| 18:09.48 | Kalroth | oh, now the site is dead here too |
| 18:09.59 | Kalroth | The server at www.guardianhq.com is taking too long to respond. |
| 18:10.05 | Kalroth | slowass site1 |
| 18:10.28 | Saint-N | wheeeee |
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| 18:11.07 | Saint-N | totally fergot how nice Xircon is for an IRC client |
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| 18:11.34 | Kalroth | I loved Xircon, but it isn't developed anymore :( |
| 18:11.42 | Saint-N | still works fine |
| 18:11.46 | Kalroth | Xircon with kano.tcl ftw |
| 18:11.56 | Saint-N | its not like IRC has changed so drastically that it needs to be bleeding edge ;) |
| 18:12.03 | Saint-N | nods |
| 18:12.10 | Saint-N | with conio theme! |
| 18:12.22 | Kalroth | Naw, it's just that with x-chat I can code my own .dll files in whatever language |
| 18:12.31 | Shirik | But what about IPV6! |
| 18:12.34 | Shirik | You need that support! |
| 18:12.56 | Kalroth | Saint-N: I remember hanging with both on efnet! kano was like 16 when he made kano.tcl |
| 18:13.14 | Saint-N | when more than 0.0001% of servers use or require ipv6 I'll worry about it ;P |
| 18:13.26 | Esamynn | lol |
| 18:13.35 | Saint-N | Kalroth: heh yeah I saw a script post from DeathNite |
| 18:13.38 | Kalroth | He's also responsible for me hating U, UR, ofcourse, atleast and much more. |
| 18:13.54 | Saint-N | with thanks to PW and sk1llz |
| 18:13.57 | Esamynn | Saint-N: can we hold you to that? |
| 18:14.03 | Saint-N | and that took me back about 10 years |
| 18:14.03 | Kalroth | boobies? |
| 18:14.14 | Kalroth | Saint-N: Scary how old you are now! |
| 18:14.18 | Esamynn | Kalroth: no boobies for ju |
| 18:14.28 | Kalroth | Esamynn :( |
| 18:16.29 | zenzelezz | I hate threads with titles like "Dunno if it's been answered yet" |
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| 18:16.37 | Josh_Borke | ScytheBlade1: reported |
| 18:16.40 | Josh_Borke | or should i say replied? |
| 18:20.41 | Shirik | damn it! |
| 18:20.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Josh_Borke: lol |
| 18:20.45 | Shirik | nslookup looks way too much like Lua |
| 18:20.57 | Shirik | I've been sitting here for the last five minutes trying to figure out why I get this |
| 18:21.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Josh_Borke: you're having the same problem? |
| 18:21.12 | Shirik | > s = "s"; |
| 18:21.12 | Shirik | Unrecognized command: s = "s"; |
| 18:21.44 | Josh_Borke | ScytheBlade1: WAS having. since then the second account expired and i haven't reactivated it yet |
| 18:21.54 | Josh_Borke | AND it was so frustrating i gave up trying to do it |
| 18:21.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Josh_Borke: that's what I was afraid of... wine on either box? |
| 18:22.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Or straight windows? |
| 18:22.12 | Josh_Borke | ScytheBlade1: same box, happened using windows or wine |
| 18:22.26 | ScytheBlade1 | That's somewhat infuriating. |
| 18:22.38 | Josh_Borke | are you natting? |
| 18:22.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
| 18:23.07 | ScytheBlade1 | I kinda want to take wireshark to the problem and check out what exactly is happening |
| 18:23.07 | Josh_Borke | could that have something to do with it? |
| 18:23.24 | ScytheBlade1 | It very well could, yes |
| 18:23.49 | Josh_Borke | because i've been able to follow other people while on my mount |
| 18:24.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Same |
| 18:25.09 | ScytheBlade1 | The entire goal behind me getting two accounts was to do double dailys at the same time |
| 18:25.13 | ScytheBlade1 | And this... kinda kills that.. |
| 18:25.31 | Josh_Borke | ScytheBlade1: aye |
| 18:25.41 | Josh_Borke | ScytheBlade1: i parked one person on the ground at the northern bombing area |
| 18:25.48 | Josh_Borke | and just did the 6 spots around it |
| 18:25.54 | ScytheBlade1 | I might wind up doing that |
| 18:25.54 | Josh_Borke | and then did similarly in skettis |
| 18:26.12 | ScytheBlade1 | The second toon is a druid though, if I can stealth into the transporter I might have more luck with that |
| 18:26.44 | Josh_Borke | you can't be knocked off when in flight form, correct? |
| 18:26.53 | ScytheBlade1 | You can be from dismounting effects |
| 18:27.03 | Josh_Borke | hm, ok |
| 18:27.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Daze? Won't touch you |
| 18:27.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Fel Cannons? Death2u |
| 18:27.29 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 18:27.33 | zenzelezz | you mean people don't fall from the sky in Skettis anymore? |
| 18:27.36 | zenzelezz | they sure used to |
| 18:27.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Druids do not |
| 18:27.52 | zenzelezz | oh, sorry, thought you were talking in general |
| 18:28.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Even then you can simply reshift instantly after |
| 18:28.05 | ScytheBlade1 | But my problem is the normal vs. epic :/ |
| 18:28.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Druid = normal :/ |
| 18:28.21 | zenzelezz | I've never been one for epic mounts |
| 18:28.40 | zenzelezz | didn't get my epic riding mount till half-way through Hellfire, and I'm now raiding BT with 14.5k gold, and still use slow bird |
| 18:28.49 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 18:28.58 | ScytheBlade1 | How do you make that money? :/ |
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| 18:29.04 | zenzelezz | I'm cheap |
| 18:43.26 | zenzelezz | jeeze, people still carry their Arch Mage Vargoth things to BT |
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| 18:51.18 | Shirik | zenzelezz: I do |
| 18:51.21 | Shirik | well not to BT, but I o |
| 18:51.22 | Shirik | do |
| 18:51.39 | kd3 | I'm still upset over the nerf that we can't bring him to arenas any more |
| 18:52.23 | Shirik | me too |
| 18:54.06 | Shirik | "SD1 suffered a severe power surge last night and has lost stability on several components. We are still investigating its condition and will provide updates on its repair over the next few hours. We apologize for the inconvenience." |
| 18:54.16 | Shirik | Why exactly did you not have any kind of surge protection again? |
| 18:54.21 | zenzelezz | what's SD1? |
| 18:54.27 | Shirik | The server my site runs on |
| 19:00.02 | Saint-N | you have a site? |
| 19:00.06 | Saint-N | does it have porn? |
| 19:00.14 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 19:00.20 | Saint-N | and if not are you sure you meant "internet site" ? |
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| 19:01.37 | Saint-N | Vargoth is like a non combat pet |
| 19:01.43 | Saint-N | of course you bring him along |
| 19:02.58 | zenzelezz | I only bring my Worg Pup and Great Horned Owl |
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| 19:03.31 | ralfWORK | I bring my... |
| 19:03.36 | Saint-N | I bring egbert |
| 19:03.37 | ralfWORK | oh never mind I'm not in BT |
| 19:03.43 | ralfWORK | egbert aggros |
| 19:03.46 | Saint-N | the single greatest pet ever |
| 19:03.47 | ralfWORK | I swear to god he does |
| 19:03.48 | kergoth | i should get a worg pup on my latest char, always liked that noncombat pat |
| 19:03.54 | Saint-N | hah yeah ralf |
| 19:04.05 | Saint-N | all that spazzy running around you'd swear he's gonna pull something! |
| 19:05.27 | Cairenn | hey, the gophers actually did |
| 19:05.55 | ralfWORK | I just like my silly christmas robot |
| 19:06.11 | ralfWORK | our MT has Egbert |
| 19:06.25 | ralfWORK | he's always pulling crap by accident |
| 19:07.29 | ralfWORK | so, should I let our boomkin roll on casting cloth in kara? :( |
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| 19:14.58 | Gnarfoz | hmm |
| 19:14.59 | Gnarfoz | what's the difference between these two patterns?: ^([^%s]+) ([^%s]+) and ^(%S+) (%S+) |
| 19:15.35 | Saint-N | aside fromthe smart ass direct comparisson? |
| 19:16.03 | Saint-N | hey mental |
| 19:16.06 | Thunder_Child | Saint-N, dont ask, just say it |
| 19:16.07 | Saint-N | you do work on auctioneer? |
| 19:16.24 | Cairenn | lead dev :p |
| 19:16.29 | MentalPower | :) |
| 19:16.59 | Saint-N | heh can you explain why the search button constantly flasses and all checks of AdvAuction.Scan.IsScanning() seem to retun NULL? |
| 19:17.03 | Saint-N | flashes |
| 19:17.19 | ralfWORK | Gnarfoz: one is space, one is not space |
| 19:17.26 | ralfWORK | I believe |
| 19:17.33 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 19:17.40 | MentalPower | ralfWORK: negative, both are non-space |
| 19:17.44 | MentalPower | they both match the same thing |
| 19:17.50 | Gnarfoz | S is ^s? |
| 19:17.58 | MentalPower | yup |
| 19:18.01 | Gnarfoz | ah |
| 19:18.07 | Gnarfoz | and the brackets? |
| 19:18.10 | ralfWORK | oh |
| 19:18.13 | ralfWORK | you know what, ignore me |
| 19:18.16 | Gnarfoz | do they do anything? ^^ |
| 19:18.50 | ralfWORK | that looked like a regex to me... that may well not be one |
| 19:18.57 | MentalPower | Saint-N: thats cause CanSendAuctionQuery() returns true every once in a while |
| 19:19.14 | Saint-N | oh |
| 19:19.24 | Gnarfoz | I'm just confused because both captures are used in different locales of the same addon |
| 19:19.30 | Saint-N | well what would I call to get a definite answer to whether it's scanning? |
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| 19:19.34 | MentalPower | as for the API function, I have no clue |
| 19:19.49 | Saint-N | like say I wanted to make something stupid like a little "lightup addon" that's green when scanning and red when not |
| 19:19.53 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* http://gizmodo.com/347964/pen+top-utensils-shut-down-humanity-its-reached-its-peak |
| 19:20.01 | MentalPower | Gnarfoz: they are exactly the same thing, prolly made by two diff people |
| 19:20.08 | Saint-N | incase I switch tabs and wforget what iwas doing ;P |
| 19:20.52 | MentalPower | lua> ("asdf foobar"):match("^([^%s]+) ([^%s]+)") |
| 19:20.52 | lua_bot | MentalPower: asdf, foobar, |
| 19:21.07 | MentalPower | lua> ("asdf foobar"):match("^(%S+) (%S+)") |
| 19:21.07 | lua_bot | MentalPower: asdf, foobar, |
| 19:21.09 | MentalPower | see? |
| 19:21.49 | Shirik | damn, I suck at tohou project now |
| 19:22.08 | Shirik | You get so good at a game, leave it for a month and you suck at it again =( |
| 19:22.25 | Gnarfoz | MentalPower: yeah, figured as much since one is in the enUS locale and one in another one |
| 19:23.01 | haste | Shirik: ! |
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| 19:23.22 | Cidan | OHHH YEAAAAAAAAHHHHH, LIFE GOES ONNNNNNNNNNN |
| 19:23.49 | Cidan | Long after the thrill of livin' is goneeee |
| 19:23.58 | ralfWORK | k |
| 19:24.07 | Shirik | haste? |
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| 19:24.13 | MentalPower | Saint-N: so AucAdvanced.IsScanning() always returns nil? |
| 19:24.17 | MentalPower | err... |
| 19:24.25 | MentalPower | AucAdvanced.Scan.IsScanning() |
| 19:24.33 | Saint-N | null |
| 19:24.41 | MentalPower | there is no null in Lua |
| 19:24.42 | haste | Shirik: You are probably the first touhou player I've seen on IRC, well outisde any of the related chans |
| 19:24.46 | Shirik | haha |
| 19:24.51 | Shirik | <3 the game |
| 19:24.54 | Saint-N | yeah each time I try and check it during a scan or otherwise it a nil |
| 19:25.04 | Shirik | But I used to be able to get 50% through phantasm level, now I can barely get through 10 :( |
| 19:25.09 | Saint-N | null==nil ;P |
| 19:25.13 | Cidan | touhou is insane fun |
| 19:25.14 | Saint-N | but I know its working |
| 19:25.33 | Saint-N | it has to be working ;P |
| 19:25.35 | MentalPower | Saint-N: what about AucAdvanced.Scan.Private.isScanning |
| 19:25.43 | MentalPower | note that is a variable, not a function |
| 19:25.44 | Saint-N | oo didn't think to check that |
| 19:25.59 | Saint-N | so it'll return 0 or 1? |
| 19:26.17 | MentalPower | well, you shouldn't since its private, its just for debugging |
| 19:26.22 | MentalPower | its true/false IIRC |
| 19:26.23 | haste | I'm not able to get much longer than stage 3 on PCB now, and I completed on lunatic over a year ago :( |
| 19:26.33 | Saint-N | one sec |
| 19:27.15 | Shirik | th07e.exe has been closed by Data Execution Prevention to help protect your computer =( |
| 19:29.01 | Thunder_Child | Shirik you seem to have many computer problems |
| 19:29.10 | Shirik | it's Windows |
| 19:29.19 | haste | at least th10 runs there |
| 19:29.19 | Shirik | actually I bring most of them on myself |
| 19:29.30 | Shirik | th07 does too, I just tried to fraps it and fraps got pissed actually |
| 19:29.50 | haste | I've yet to play th10 :p |
| 19:34.06 | Shirik | 12.68% that time! |
| 19:34.08 | Shirik | I'm happier now |
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| 19:35.47 | Cidan | BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAH |
| 19:35.48 | Cidan | http://dailywebb.com/?p=303 |
| 19:36.03 | Shirik | This guy makes me cry: http://youtube.com/watch?v=L1EdoR8mdY8 |
| 19:36.18 | Shirik | He doesn't just complete it, he does it elegantly |
| 19:37.42 | Shirik | Cidan: He's a republican, I'm not surprised |
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| 19:39.11 | Cidan | Meh, all political parties are equally as retarded. However John "100 years in Iraq" McCain is up there. |
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| 19:39.44 | cncfanatics | yo all |
| 19:39.48 | Cidan | I want to vote for a Dem, I really do, but they all say/do something retarded. |
| 19:40.16 | Cidan | ie: Gun Control, or civil unions (I support full marriage), etc. |
| 19:40.25 | Cidan | Just makes me want to stab someone. |
| 19:41.23 | |pez| | does this page fail for any of you? http://pez-.deviantart.com/ |
| 19:41.45 | Saint-N | MentalPower: nope that doesn't seem to be liked either |
| 19:42.01 | MentalPower | wierd... |
| 19:42.14 | Lunessa | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic |
| 19:42.16 | Cidan | nope, it works just fine, Mr "I like to plug my site" |pez| |
| 19:42.17 | MentalPower | Saint-N: can you make a jira issue with as much inf as you can? |
| 19:42.25 | MentalPower | http://jira.norganna.org |
| 19:42.31 | Saint-N | okies |
| 19:42.32 | |pez| | Cide: I can't access it from my home ;P |
| 19:42.42 | |pez| | therefore, checked if that was the case for everyone else |
| 19:42.42 | Cidan | Cide: Haha, you got pinged, :P |
| 19:42.49 | Cide | fuckers |
| 19:42.54 | Cidan | rofl |
| 19:42.57 | Cide | that said |
| 19:43.03 | Cide | does anyone know of good program for visualizing 2d coordinate systems? with lines/points |
| 19:43.21 | Lunessa | pez - it loaded fine. |
| 19:43.30 | Cidan | "visualizing 2d coordinate systems" |
| 19:43.34 | Cidan | er, graphing? |
| 19:43.46 | Saint-N | MentalPower: of course there's a very good chance I'm just being retarded ;P |
| 19:43.51 | Cide | well, I'm not talking about inputting equations |
| 19:43.58 | Cide | I need to draw line segments and points |
| 19:43.58 | Shirik | Can anyone confirm that http://www.guardianhq.com is back up for me? |
| 19:44.04 | Cidan | just coordinate pairs? |
| 19:44.08 | Cide | basically |
| 19:44.19 | Cide | drawing lines between two coordinate pairs would be nice too, but not required |
| 19:44.19 | Cidan | not here Shirik, and hm |
| 19:44.38 | |pez| | Cide, Lunessa: thankyou for checking ^^ |
| 19:44.42 | Cide | anytime. |
| 19:44.43 | Cide | fucker. |
| 19:44.45 | Cidan | You know, outside of my TI, I'm not sure. |
| 19:44.45 | Cidan | rofl |
| 19:44.59 | Cide | yeah |
| 19:45.02 | Cide | my TI ran out of batteries |
| 19:45.06 | Cide | so I'm screwed |
| 19:45.38 | Cidan | quick google: http://www.padowan.dk/graph/ |
| 19:45.54 | |pez| | oh, Cidan, Cide, my tab autocompletion was confused. sorry if I said wrong nicks.. |
| 19:46.21 | Cidan | S'ok, everyone does it. I get a kick out of it. |
| 19:46.28 | Cide | wonder if it does points, or only functions |
| 19:46.39 | Cide | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:46.40 | Cidan | the SS looks like it does points |
| 19:47.12 | Cidan | and if not, just do simple functions |
| 19:47.14 | Cidan | not a big deal |
| 19:47.27 | Cidan | f(x) = x |
| 19:47.28 | Cidan | or whatever |
| 19:47.43 | Cide | ya, but that'll bloat the view :P |
| 19:47.59 | Cide | I need to interpret if my algorithm works correctly so I need full focus! |
| 19:48.25 | Cidan | do it on paper? |
| 19:48.26 | Cidan | :D |
| 19:48.49 | Cide | needs to be exact |
| 19:49.00 | Cide | I don't have graph paper :P |
| 19:49.05 | Cidan | God damn it man |
| 19:49.08 | Cidan | *stab* |
| 19:49.16 | Cidan | You're impossible to please |
| 19:50.22 | Cide | yep! |
| 19:50.51 | MentalPower | Cide: theres a graphinc calculator power toy for winxp |
| 19:50.57 | MentalPower | graphing* |
| 19:51.07 | Cidan | OH, I forgot about that |
| 19:51.12 | Cide | Cide's suggestion seems to work though |
| 19:51.14 | Cide | but thanks! |
| 19:51.15 | Cide | oh wtf |
| 19:51.18 | Cidan | ROFL |
| 19:51.19 | MentalPower | lol |
| 19:51.20 | Cidan | YES! |
| 19:51.22 | Cidan | I WIN! |
| 19:51.29 | kd3 | ahaha |
| 19:51.49 | Cide | that's so not fair |
| 19:52.05 | Josh_Borke | hi'm confused |
| 19:53.22 | haste | holy shit, th10 works now |
| 19:53.35 | ScytheBlade1 | what @ http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation/2831-Zero-Punctuation-The-Witcher |
| 19:53.39 | Shirik | where did you get it? |
| 19:53.57 | Cidan | ScytheBlade1: <3 Yahtzee |
| 19:53.59 | Cidan | He is god. |
| 19:54.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Cidan: I'm laughing uncontrollably at the end of this... |
| 19:54.13 | Cidan | For those of you who have not/do not watch Zero Punctuation every wednesday |
| 19:54.14 | ScytheBlade1 | I mean |
| 19:54.14 | ScytheBlade1 | what |
| 19:54.17 | ScytheBlade1 | what. |
| 19:54.17 | Shirik | oh wait |
| 19:54.19 | Cidan | http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation |
| 19:54.22 | Shirik | I have th10?! |
| 19:54.22 | Cidan | EVERY gamer/nerd |
| 19:54.24 | Shirik | When did I get that? |
| 19:54.25 | Cidan | must watch those. |
| 19:54.36 | ScytheBlade1 | "like a vacuum cleaner with a puffer fish on the end" |
| 19:54.39 | ScytheBlade1 | what. |
| 19:54.47 | Cidan | Look at the one for Crysis |
| 19:54.48 | Shirik | This application has failed to start because d3dx9_31.dll was not found. |
| 19:54.49 | Shirik | =( |
| 19:55.24 | MentalPower | what the hell did you do to your DirectX Shirik? |
| 19:55.31 | haste | with earlier wine versions, it would lock-up at the initial loading |
| 19:55.40 | haste | MentalPower: not update it for a couple months :p |
| 19:56.34 | Shirik | haste: Fix my th10! |
| 19:56.48 | haste | Shirik: update dx, or fetch the dll from some random site |
| 19:57.34 | Shirik | I want to know where I got th10 from |
| 19:57.38 | Shirik | I don't remember downloading it |
| 19:58.23 | Shirik | Okay, I downloaded the dll |
| 19:58.29 | Shirik | Now I get a new error |
| 19:58.47 | Shirik | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/ef982ab334637339d0c217c473ed3fa4.jpg |
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| 19:58.57 | Shirik | I'm going back to th07 :P |
| 19:59.21 | Shirik | haste: How did you get the cd? |
| 19:59.28 | MentalPower | what is th07 and th10? |
| 19:59.34 | Shirik | tohou project |
| 19:59.39 | Shirik | http://youtube.com/watch?v=L1EdoR8mdY8 |
| 20:00.00 | haste | I bought it |
| 20:00.30 | Shirik | I'm not aware of anywhere I can buy it |
| 20:01.19 | haste | http://www.himeyashop.com/product_info.php/products_id/8086 |
| 20:01.45 | Shirik | <3 |
| 20:02.29 | haste | there's another english site also |
| 20:02.59 | haste | http://www.paletweb.com/selectpage.asp?code=01317 |
| 20:03.08 | Cidan | ooo, AO is getting a new rendering engine |
| 20:03.10 | Cidan | neat |
| 20:05.07 | Shirik | I'm a bit confused haste, in th10 do bombs use your power? |
| 20:05.37 | haste | I haven't played th10 before now :p |
| 20:05.45 | haste | it hasn't worked with wine >:( |
| 20:05.52 | Shirik | heh ok |
| 20:05.55 | Shirik | just watching a video |
| 20:06.01 | Shirik | it looks a lot nicer |
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| 20:07.06 | haste | Shirik: http://www.pooshlmer.com/touhouwiki/index.php/Mountain_of_Faith:_Gameplay#Options_and_Spiritual_Attacks |
| 20:07.13 | kd3 | huh, lich king phishing site using a javascript payload |
| 20:07.37 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:09.56 | Shirik | omg I got th10 to work |
| 20:10.05 | Shirik | how do I make it windowed mode -_- |
| 20:15.54 | Shirik | That's interesting |
| 20:15.57 | Shirik | I can use more bombs now :D |
| 20:15.58 | Shirik | yey |
| 20:17.55 | haste | Shirik: the question on the start asks for fullscreen or window |
| 20:18.00 | Shirik | oh |
| 20:18.02 | Shirik | heh ok |
| 20:18.48 | malreth | hmm... sears is splitting into 5 separate companies |
| 20:19.15 | Esamynn|Work | oh? |
| 20:19.19 | malreth | http://feeds.gawker.com/~r/consumerist/full/~3/221702554/sears-to-split-into-5-crappy-companies |
| 20:20.06 | Esamynn|Work | "Details are sketchy, but so far it looks like one company will just deny warranty repairs and replacements, while another will focus its entire energies on sending incompetent technicians to your house." lol |
| 20:20.45 | ScytheBlade1 | I hate pricks who PvP flag and then fly on top of questgivers right as you fly up. |
| 20:20.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Right-click --> death. |
| 20:20.58 | haste | Shirik: you can set it in the config also |
| 20:21.20 | haste | Shirik: the first checkbox on the first one with three choices |
| 20:21.20 | Shirik | I didn't see it in the config |
| 20:21.24 | malreth | ScytheBlade1: that behavior is reportable on PvE servers |
| 20:21.28 | haste | config.exe in the folder :p ? |
| 20:21.29 | Shirik | no it's not |
| 20:21.33 | ralfWORK | ScytheBlade1: that's pretty awesome actually |
| 20:21.35 | Shirik | they won't do anything on any server |
| 20:22.37 | malreth | oh? |
| 20:22.38 | ScytheBlade1 | I DID lose durability |
| 20:22.42 | ScytheBlade1 | "You hit (warlock) for 40." |
| 20:22.44 | ScytheBlade1 | "You die." |
| 20:22.46 | ScytheBlade1 | :( |
| 20:23.17 | ralfWORK | what he instagibbed you? |
| 20:23.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Nah, that's what the guards did. |
| 20:23.59 | ralfWORK | man I gotta try that when I get home |
| 20:24.01 | ralfWORK | rofl |
| 20:24.14 | Josh_Borke | i play on a PvP server so i deal with it every day |
| 20:24.24 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm not going to report him or anything. But really, wtf |
| 20:24.25 | kd3 | gah, this is going to get annoying quick. hit revered with skyguard yesterday and now they're all talking at me |
| 20:24.45 | ralfWORK | the ogrilla do that to me |
| 20:24.48 | ralfWORK | and I think it's awesome |
| 20:25.32 | cogwheel | O.o |
| 20:25.38 | cogwheel | did succubi get boob jobs? |
| 20:25.51 | kd3 | back in 1.6 wasn't it? |
| 20:25.59 | ralfWORK | ohrly? |
| 20:26.04 | cogwheel | i remember when they got a graphical upgrade |
| 20:26.16 | ralfWORK | I should roll a lock just for succy |
| 20:26.18 | cogwheel | maybe it's just my larger monitor |
| 20:26.22 | ralfWORK | what level they get it? |
| 20:26.35 | cogwheel | 20 iirc |
| 20:26.50 | ralfWORK | sweet, easy peasy |
| 20:27.13 | ralfWORK | I always tell my warlocks that I'll heal their stupid lifetap if I get a few minutes alone with succy :P |
| 20:27.34 | cogwheel | :P |
| 20:28.35 | Shirik | hm, no border event in th10 |
| 20:28.50 | Shirik | I guess that's to make up for the extremely excessive amount of spell cards at your disposal |
| 20:32.10 | Josh_Borke | what is th10? |
| 20:34.24 | malreth | touhou project 10 |
| 20:34.31 | malreth | Mountain of Faith |
| 20:34.31 | malreth | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touhou_Project |
| 20:35.02 | Josh_Borke | oh, ok |
| 20:36.05 | Shirik | http://youtube.com/watch?v=EKlOmHcOnmM |
| 20:36.20 | Lunessa | I used to joke that when my warlock got to 20 and got a succubus, he'd hang up his adventuring boots and stay home all day. |
| 20:36.41 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 20:36.48 | ralfWORK | that's the best iwin button |
| 20:36.52 | Cidan | http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/24/trekstor-showcases-i-beat-blaxx-portable-media-player/ |
| 20:36.55 | Cidan | ... |
| 20:37.01 | Cidan | look at the name of the device. |
| 20:37.11 | Cidan | what the hell? |
| 20:37.28 | Cidan | Did someone fall asleep while approving the name for it? |
| 20:37.46 | cogwheel | NSFW-y |
| 20:37.48 | malreth | old news |
| 20:37.51 | ralfWORK | hahahahaahah |
| 20:38.39 | Cidan | I had never seen it before, go figure. |
| 20:40.04 | ralfWORK | too bad they don't let you dress your succubus |
| 20:40.35 | Cidan | s/dress/undress/ |
| 20:40.37 | Cidan | fixed |
| 20:40.46 | ralfWORK | yea that too |
| 20:40.56 | ralfWORK | put her in something even slutier |
| 20:41.30 | ralfWORK | and you know, things like the succubus make me wonder about Blizz's fuzzy censorship policies |
| 20:41.50 | cogwheel | Fisker-: thank you for getting to the point rather than beating around the bush this time |
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| 20:42.06 | MentalPower | ... |
| 20:42.08 | cogwheel | what's that... quintuple entendre? |
| 20:42.53 | ralfWORK | holy hell I think it is |
| 20:43.40 | ralfWORK | that's pretty amazing |
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| 20:44.49 | ralfWORK | good play sir, good play |
| 20:44.59 | MentalPower | link |
| 20:45.01 | cogwheel | :P |
| 20:45.01 | MentalPower | ? |
| 20:45.26 | ralfWORK | I've never seen a quintuple entendre before |
| 20:45.27 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 20:46.45 | Josh_Borke | th is absurd |
| 20:47.01 | cogwheel | Since Thunder _Child missed it... [12:42]* Fisker-has sex with cogwheel |
| 20:47.02 | cogwheel | <cogwheel>Fisker-: thank you for getting to the point rather than beating around the bush this time |
| 20:47.27 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> #wowi-lounge: Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.3.x ToC: 20300 | Fisker- has sex with cogwheel | "Fisker-: thank you for getting to the point rather than beating around the bush this time" - Cogwheel |
| 20:47.42 | cogwheel | \o |
| 20:47.44 | cogwheel | +/ |
| 20:47.47 | Lunessa | cogwheel: *chuckle* |
| 20:48.00 | Cairenn | too good to pass up |
| 20:48.10 | ralfWORK | wonder if bash.org is still up |
| 20:48.31 | krka | i don't get the quintuple part |
| 20:49.08 | ralfWORK | *sigh* |
| 20:49.22 | malreth | http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19726404.600-lazy-option-is-best-when-waiting-for-the-bus.html |
| 20:50.26 | krka | which are the five parts of the entendre? O_o |
| 20:50.31 | krka | am i being dumb or something? :( |
| 20:51.03 | cogwheel | krka: i pulled that # out of my ass for comedic effect |
| 20:51.04 | malreth | LUA |
| 20:51.04 | krka | malreth: Lua is not an acronym. It is a Portuguese word that means moon. |
| 20:51.35 | Josh_Borke | ~lart malreth |
| 20:51.35 | purl | nukes malreth with a single large nuke |
| 20:51.35 | krka | oh right |
| 20:51.37 | cogwheel | i was actually hoping someone would do a detailed analysis of the sentence to show exactly how many entendres there were :P |
| 20:52.12 | MentalPower | I must be blind |
| 20:52.14 | MentalPower | link? |
| 20:52.21 | malreth | the guy on the ui/macro forum that was trying to write the addon that would cause his character to sing the lyrics to Sharp Dressed Man... his code is hopelessly wrong wrong wrong... |
| 20:52.23 | Josh_Borke | i don't get it |
| 20:52.35 | malreth | and i've completely rewritten it top to bottom |
| 20:52.44 | Shirik | ERROR #132 (0x85100084) Fatal Exception |
| 20:52.44 | Shirik | Program:D:\Program Files (x86)\World of Warcraft\WoW.exe |
| 20:52.44 | Shirik | Exception:0xC0000005 (ACCESS_VIOLATION) at 0023:0041E14C |
| 20:52.46 | Shirik | rawr |
| 20:52.47 | Josh_Borke | what's going on? |
| 20:52.56 | malreth | but i'm debating posting it since he won't learn if he doesn't do it himself |
| 20:52.59 | Thunder_Child | ~lart cogwheel |
| 20:52.59 | purl | beats cogwheel into protomatter with the andromeda galaxy |
| 20:53.16 | Thunder_Child | just cuse there was a pun that i missed did NOPT mean you had to bring it to my attention |
| 20:53.51 | Polarina | Shirik: Now, what exactly did you do? |
| 20:53.52 | malreth | NOPT: New Orleans Prostitute Tests |
| 20:53.57 | Fisker- | ewww Shirik 64-bit english windows |
| 20:53.58 | Fisker- | eeew |
| 20:53.59 | cogwheel | Thunder_Child: actually, that's exactly what it means, imo |
| 20:54.00 | Shirik | Same thing I did last night |
| 20:54.13 | Shirik | I couldn't hear anything so I turned up the volume and wow got pissed |
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| 20:54.30 | Thunder_Child | cogwheel, your opnion doesnt count then |
| 20:55.49 | cogwheel | actually it's all that counts w.r.t. what I decide to say |
| 20:58.24 | batrick | hi friends |
| 20:58.39 | cogwheel | hola |
| 20:59.14 | Josh_Borke | hi |
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| 21:00.59 | batrick | batbot: is shirik jealous of my skillz? |
| 21:01.00 | batbot | batrick, Are you kidding? |
| 21:01.04 | batrick | batbot: no? |
| 21:01.04 | batbot | batrick, Without a doubt. |
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| 21:10.06 | malreth | it's weird of me to be excited at getting a new litter box for my cat, isn't it? |
| 21:10.45 | Saint-N | not if its one of those automated-guarenteed-to-scare-the-crap-out-of-the-cat-and-provide-hours-of-amusement ones |
| 21:11.09 | malreth | ah, good then. are there bonus points if it weighs 30 lbs? |
| 21:11.43 | Saint-N | the machine or the cat? |
| 21:11.49 | malreth | the machine |
| 21:12.07 | malreth | the cat weighs 14 lbs... he's a big guy |
| 21:12.09 | Saint-N | oh yeah totally it means less spillage due to be knocked over and infringing on your humour |
| 21:13.06 | ralfWORK | will it keep my dog out of he litter box? |
| 21:13.14 | ralfWORK | she tends to enjoy a treat of cat feces |
| 21:13.29 | malreth | thankfully, our dog doesn't |
| 21:13.40 | ralfWORK | we have those igloo litter boxes |
| 21:13.43 | malreth | but i've heard that some dogs do like a spot of the doo-doo |
| 21:13.44 | ralfWORK | so it's covered |
| 21:13.54 | ralfWORK | but our dog is a rat terrier |
| 21:14.10 | ralfWORK | so she fits her fat ass in there and brings out her treats :P |
| 21:14.13 | ralfWORK | pretty goddamn nasty |
| 21:14.24 | malreth | http://litter-robot.com/ |
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| 21:14.57 | ralfWORK | how much monay? |
| 21:15.11 | malreth | $300 |
| 21:15.16 | ralfWORK | HOLY SHIT |
| 21:15.17 | malreth | plus an assload for shipping |
| 21:15.25 | ralfWORK | no pun intended :P |
| 21:15.38 | malreth | my pun WAS intended |
| 21:15.44 | ralfWORK | hahahahahaha |
| 21:15.47 | ralfWORK | and it was good! |
| 21:16.40 | ralfWORK | wow. it has a control panel |
| 21:17.01 | ralfWORK | the geek in me desires this thing |
| 21:17.22 | Saint-N | anyone ahve that link from before about the amount of wow players? |
| 21:17.24 | malreth | it's 'spensive but if it means an end to litter box scooping i'll be happy with it |
| 21:17.35 | Saint-N | why scoop? |
| 21:17.36 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 21:17.46 | Saint-N | fill it and replace it every 2 weeks ;) |
| 21:17.54 | ralfWORK | I can only imagine how funny ti would be the cat was caught in it :P |
| 21:17.58 | malreth | Saint-N: because if i don't the cat will crap in my shoes |
| 21:18.00 | Saint-N | or let the fatass outside to make your rosebushes better |
| 21:18.21 | malreth | he's an indoor kitty |
| 21:18.56 | ralfWORK | 8. What happens if my cat tries to enter the globe while it is rotating? |
| 21:18.57 | ralfWORK | The cat sensor detects the presence of your cat and turns off the motor. The Litter-Robot will wait for 15 seconds before attempting to resume the clean cycle. |
| 21:19.08 | ralfWORK | rofl |
| 21:19.19 | malreth | i call it the Death Star litter box |
| 21:19.27 | malreth | i even ordered the black one |
| 21:19.36 | ralfWORK | wow you're right |
| 21:20.04 | Thunder_Child | anyone know a good yet relatively inexpesive (under $100) 5.1 speaker system? |
| 21:20.34 | malreth | i got the logitech something 540... i think |
| 21:20.41 | batrick | there is one on costco that is about that price |
| 21:20.46 | batrick | it looks pretty good |
| 21:21.17 | malreth | http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/speakers_audio/home_pc_speakers/devices/234&cl=us,en |
| 21:21.32 | malreth | they retail for under $100 |
| 21:21.48 | Thunder_Child | 70 wats |
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| 21:22.36 | malreth | watt? |
| 21:22.50 | Thunder_Child | s/wats/watts/ |
| 21:22.58 | malreth | Thunder_Child: watt? |
| 21:23.10 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Maldivia |
| 21:23.10 | purl | blasts Maldivia to oblivion with a kamehameha wave |
| 21:23.12 | Thunder_Child | damit |
| 21:23.17 | Thunder_Child | ~lart malreth |
| 21:23.17 | purl | rm -rf's malreth |
| 21:23.19 | malreth | that's comedy there, Thunder_Child |
| 21:23.24 | Shirik | woot |
| 21:23.35 | Shirik | I'm development manager for my school project this semester :D |
| 21:23.56 | malreth | are you a millionaire yet, Shirik? |
| 21:24.18 | ralfWORK | that's a pretty impressive litter box |
| 21:24.24 | ralfWORK | I'm almost excited for you |
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| 21:27.01 | Cairenn | ralfWORK: this is the one I'd love to get, I just can't get over the price tag: http://www.catgenie.com/ |
| 21:27.22 | ralfWORK | heh I dunno, $300 is pretty expensive! |
| 21:27.32 | Cairenn | as I said, can't get over the price |
| 21:28.00 | ralfWORK | hmm... starts with a $99 payment plan |
| 21:28.05 | ralfWORK | yea, this is probably scary |
| 21:28.07 | Cide | >>> math.sqrt(5), math.sqrt(3)/2 |
| 21:28.07 | Cide | Cide: 2.2360679774998, 0.86602540378444 |
| 21:28.41 | Shirik | cmon cide, you don't know sqrt(3)/2? |
| 21:28.44 | Cairenn | I was reading up on it quite a bit, I'd *really* like to get it, very environmentally friendly |
| 21:28.47 | malreth | Cairenn: i thought about getting that one but there isn't enough room in our bathroom, kitchen, or laundry room for it |
| 21:29.01 | Shirik | >>> math.arcsin(math.pi/3) |
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| 21:29.22 | Cairenn | laundry/furnace room is where the cat box is now |
| 21:29.34 | Shirik | >>> math.asin(math.pi/3) |
| 21:29.34 | ralfWORK | we were going to train the cats to use the toilet |
| 21:29.34 | Cide | Shirik: -1.#IND |
| 21:29.36 | Cairenn | so plenty of space for it there |
| 21:29.38 | Shirik | ??! |
| 21:29.39 | ralfWORK | never bothered to try though |
| 21:29.40 | Shirik | wtf? |
| 21:30.06 | Shirik | oh I'm an idiot |
| 21:30.13 | Shirik | >>> math.sin(math.pi/3) |
| 21:30.13 | Cide | Shirik: 0.86602540378444 |
| 21:30.15 | Josh_Borke | ~emulate Shirik |
| 21:30.15 | Shirik | there |
| 21:30.26 | Shirik | cmon Cide these things should be memorized! |
| 21:30.26 | ralfWORK | Cairenn: uhm... that's as expensive as the other one |
| 21:30.29 | ralfWORK | $300 |
| 21:30.30 | Josh_Borke | purl, emulate shirik is <reply>oh I'm an idiot |
| 21:30.31 | purl | okay, Josh_Borke |
| 21:30.34 | Josh_Borke | ~emulate Shirik |
| 21:30.34 | purl | oh I'm an idiot |
| 21:30.35 | malreth | Cairenn: i agree... the genie would be superior... it doesn't even need to be emptied out |
| 21:30.41 | Cairenn | I don't know how people do that, train the cats to use the toilet, wish I did |
| 21:30.43 | Shirik | sqrt(3)/2, sqrt(2)/2, 1/2 |
| 21:30.45 | Cide | Shirik: I fail |
| 21:30.45 | malreth | i saw one of those at our local pet store |
| 21:30.56 | ralfWORK | Cairenn: we never tried it :( |
| 21:31.54 | Josh_Borke | wait, where does the poo go? |
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| 21:32.46 | Cairenn | get liquidized and flushed |
| 21:33.04 | Cairenn | if you're talking about the catgenie |
| 21:33.09 | Josh_Borke | yea |
| 21:33.41 | ralfWORK | lol like a food processer |
| 21:33.54 | ralfWORK | these videos are funny |
| 21:33.56 | malreth | a very messy food processor |
| 21:34.08 | ralfWORK | cats are like "why the hell are you video taping me taking a crap?" |
| 21:34.24 | malreth | cats like privacy |
| 21:34.38 | ScytheBlade1 | wait, what? |
| 21:34.44 | Josh_Borke | lol ScytheBlade1 |
| 21:34.51 | malreth | i imagine i would have a similar reaction should someone start video taping me on the toilet |
| 21:34.52 | ScytheBlade1 | o_o |
| 21:34.59 | ralfWORK | not me |
| 21:35.05 | ralfWORK | I'd turn around and pee on them |
| 21:35.21 | malreth | still doesn't explain why they keep rolling over and showing off their testicles, tho |
| 21:35.46 | ralfWORK | *shrug* |
| 21:35.46 | ralfWORK | I do that from time to time |
| 21:47.57 | kd3 | lol @ general |
| 21:48.03 | kd3 | "WoW Raid versus Lavos" |
| 21:51.57 | Wobin | hm |
| 21:52.06 | Shirik | --> "test" |
| 21:52.06 | batbot | Shirik: > test |
| 21:52.19 | Wobin | what's a viable amount of agi required for a survival hunter? |
| 21:53.38 | Saint-N | a billion |
| 21:53.47 | Saint-N | so you should roll N on everything |
| 21:53.50 | Wobin | indeed |
| 21:53.51 | Wobin | viable =P |
| 21:53.55 | Saint-N | you did say hunter right? |
| 21:54.00 | Wobin | I do that anyway |
| 21:54.05 | Wobin | Cause I'm a hunter |
| 21:54.16 | Wobin | And I... I will survive. |
| 21:54.27 | Saint-N | laugh I had that in my head too |
| 21:56.32 | Josh_Borke | i i i, stayin alive, stayin alive |
| 21:56.54 | Wobin | You can tell an elf by the way he walks |
| 21:57.00 | Wobin | He's a huntin man, no time for talk |
| 21:58.07 | Shirik | oops |
| 21:58.18 | Shirik | oh well |
| 21:58.28 | Wobin | You broke him =( |
| 21:58.51 | Shirik | it's wierd, it should have been an infinite loop |
| 22:01.04 | Shirik | I hope I didn't lock up Cide too :/ |
| 22:01.10 | Shirik | I'm going to stop breaking stuff |
| 22:01.23 | Thunder_Child | wuss |
| 22:02.00 | Shirik | >>> return "test" |
| 22:02.04 | Shirik | =( |
| 22:02.53 | Shirik | Oh yey |
| 22:02.54 | Shirik | (17:02:13) (Cide) Shirik: maximum execution time (5s) exceeded |
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| 22:05.11 | MentalPower | Shirik: are you still breaking the lua bots? |
| 22:05.17 | Shirik | nooo |
| 22:05.22 | Shirik | what makes you think that >.> |
| 22:06.10 | MentalPower | well, one of them crashes, and then the other one fails to respond to a simple query :P |
| 22:06.26 | Shirik | it must be magic |
| 22:06.26 | MentalPower | the third one seems unaffected |
| 22:06.31 | Shirik | the third one wasn't touched :P |
| 22:06.56 | Josh_Borke | lol shirik |
| 22:07.03 | Shirik | After the first two failed I figured it was best not to continue the destruction |
| 22:07.35 | Josh_Borke | so, how'd you do it? |
| 22:07.54 | Shirik | I never release anything until it's been patched :) |
| 22:08.04 | Shirik | But it's odd... what I did SHOULD have been an infinite loop (like what happened to Cide) |
| 22:08.06 | MentalPower | good white-hat hacker policy :) |
| 22:08.15 | Shirik | why batrick crashed I'm not quite sure |
| 22:12.02 | Shirik | So there's talk on lua-l about making "self.foo" be "@foo" |
| 22:12.07 | Shirik | I don't like it |
| 22:12.41 | Josh_Borke | booooooo |
| 22:12.47 | Josh_Borke | i'd rather they implement real regex |
| 22:12.59 | Cide | Shirik: why would they do that? |
| 22:13.08 | Josh_Borke | using this link: http://swtch.com/~rsc/regexp/regexp1.html |
| 22:13.10 | Shirik | Well it wasn't proposed by the developers, it was proposed by someone else |
| 22:13.17 | Cide | it's stupid |
| 22:13.21 | Cide | it's not as clear |
| 22:13.22 | Shirik | the argument is that it frees up the "self" variable |
| 22:13.26 | Josh_Borke | ... |
| 22:13.53 | Cide | yeah, because the virtually unlimited amount of available variable names wasn't enough |
| 22:15.32 | Shirik | And yes, self is fine with a well taught editor. The only place the @ symbol differs |
| 22:15.32 | Shirik | is possibly more confusing, as I've opted to not make it equivalent to "self" but |
| 22:15.32 | Shirik | to the value involved, eg: |
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| 22:16.00 | Shirik | function tab:getiterator() return function() |
| 22:16.01 | Shirik | local self = "confusing self" return @iterator |
| 22:16.01 | Shirik | end end |
| 22:16.19 | Shirik | Tbh it sounds stupid to me, but I can't think of a reason for it NOT to be implemented, really. |
| 22:16.28 | Shirik | Except that it would make code a little harder to read maybe |
| 22:16.37 | Josh_Borke | what's the value add? |
| 22:16.45 | Cide | Shirik: because |
| 22:16.48 | Cide | lua is a simple language |
| 22:16.55 | Cide | unnecessary shit is stupid |
| 22:17.02 | Shirik | Like the ^ operator |
| 22:17.03 | Shirik | oh wait |
| 22:17.07 | Cide | that's not unnecessary |
| 22:17.41 | Cide | it doesn't clutter the language either and makes sense |
| 22:17.50 | Shirik | >>> for x = 1, 20 do for y = 1, 20 do assert(x^y == math.pow(x,y), "Check on X = "..x..", Y = "..y.." failed!") end end |
| 22:17.50 | Cide | Shirik: nil |
| 22:18.03 | Shirik | But anyway, I agree it's pretty stupid |
| 22:18.12 | Shirik | I myself haven't gotten into the argument |
| 22:18.16 | Shirik | btw Cide did you see my line of code? |
| 22:18.22 | Cide | no |
| 22:18.30 | Shirik | do you use debug.sethook? |
| 22:18.33 | Cide | yes |
| 22:18.46 | Shirik | option "l" ? |
| 22:18.51 | Cide | obviously |
| 22:18.57 | Shirik | I wonder why it doesn't pick up this loop then :/ |
| 22:19.08 | Cide | which? |
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| 22:27.12 | Polarina | Shirik: The ^ operator is not stupid. If it is, the subtraction operator would be stupid too since you could do result = x + (-y) to subtract five from x. |
| 22:28.09 | Shirik | no |
| 22:28.23 | Shirik | modern microprocessors and microcontrollers have a subtraction operation |
| 22:28.29 | Shirik | they do not have a power operation |
| 22:28.46 | Polarina | Shirik: It's still not stupid. |
| 22:28.49 | Shirik | well they do have a power operation |
| 22:28.57 | Shirik | but that has to do with power consumption, not raising numbers to a power |
| 22:29.51 | Polarina | Shirik: If you don't like it, don't use it. Or if you still don't like it when you are not using it, change the source code. Simple! |
| 22:30.05 | Shirik | Doesn't change the fact that I can complain about it |
| 22:30.43 | Polarina | Shirik: You can complain about everything you could possibly think of. The question is, how far could you go? :) |
| 22:31.01 | Josh_Borke | Shirik: they do too have a power operation! it's called shifting! (disclaimer: only valid for base 2) |
| 22:31.44 | Shirik | I feel this is a great time for http://youtube.com/watch?v=5eveNk3o1ME |
| 22:32.18 | Polarina | Shirik: To be honest, you are more weird than I am, and that's weird. :S |
| 22:32.29 | Shirik | That depends on your definition of wierd |
| 22:32.35 | Shirik | I see things from a computer engineer's point of view |
| 22:32.40 | Polarina | Shirik: WEIRD!!! |
| 22:32.51 | Shirik | From my point of view, programmers should know what's going on inside the computer |
| 22:32.55 | Shirik | unfortunately, about 90% of them don't. |
| 22:33.17 | Tem | Shirik, that's bizarre |
| 22:33.28 | Shirik | I don't even remember how I found it :P |
| 22:36.48 | Wobin | "Bow wow wow wow wow woah wa"? |
| 22:37.18 | Wobin | What sort of freaking sparrow is -that-? |
| 22:39.02 | Lunessa | ... I want the brain cells that killed back. |
| 22:39.09 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:39.29 | Saint-N | http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/World-of-Warcraft-PC-020626722124/sem/rpsm/oid/112023/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do |
| 22:39.32 | TecnoBrat | http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/01/22/chinese-television-reuses-azerothian-maps/ |
| 22:39.40 | TecnoBrat | ^Amazing |
| 22:40.46 | |Jelly| | best way to leave a fail group |
| 22:40.53 | Wobin | Saint-N: $10? |
| 22:40.56 | Saint-N | yup |
| 22:41.08 | |Jelly| | MD to the healer, pull everything, fd, tea bag everyone. hearth. |
| 22:41.13 | Wobin | This is a clear sign WotLK will be $99 |
| 22:41.45 | Lunessa | |Jelly|: You're speaking from experience, right? I mean, getting tea bagged by your own groupmate? |
| 22:41.45 | Saint-N | no way it's got deathknights that means 139 for basic and 169 for ce with an arthas pet ;P |
| 22:42.05 | |Jelly| | What can I say, she was cute. |
| 22:42.27 | Lunessa | Yeah, but MD to the healer is a funny-once joke. |
| 22:42.48 | Shirik | Lunessa: For brain cell restocking: http://youtube.com/watch?v=UX6e7sO1ss0&feature=related |
| 22:42.49 | |Jelly| | Well, I just did it. |
| 22:42.52 | |Jelly| | :P |
| 22:43.14 | Lunessa | ~lart Shirik |
| 22:43.14 | purl | hereby declares Shirik a troll |
| 22:45.18 | |Jelly| | Vanndamme, the resto druid. How's that make sense? |
| 22:45.43 | Lunessa | And this is my Night Elf Mohawk. |
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| 22:48.47 | Shirik | Oh god I know why it broke batrick |
| 22:48.53 | Shirik | Luatask's implementation is stupid |
| 22:49.12 | Tem | Shirik, for some reason, I can help but picture a female blood elf hunter running around chasing a kitty to that music |
| 22:49.22 | Tem | s/can/can't/ |
| 22:49.30 | Tem | (blond) |
| 22:49.35 | Shirik | Full song with lyrics: http://youtube.com/watch?v=_y8oDnjkS7E&watch_response |
| 22:50.33 | batrick | Shirik: no argument there >.> |
| 22:50.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | haha, dansen |
| 22:50.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | haven't heard this forever |
| 22:51.07 | batrick | all you really did was the same thing as last time... stop doin that! |
| 22:51.18 | batrick | i'm waiting for the lua task author to fix it |
| 22:51.23 | Tem | lol, on top of Lucky Star |
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| 22:51.51 | Shirik | Sorry batrick! |
| 22:51.58 | Shirik | I didn't expect them to be the same bug |
| 22:52.09 | batrick | batbot: is shirik a jerk? |
| 22:52.09 | batbot | batrick, Better not tell you now. |
| 22:52.14 | Shirik | rofl |
| 22:52.32 | Shirik|AFK | Now that I'm gone you can say it, batbot |
| 22:53.08 | Shirik|AFK | batbot, is shirik a jerk? |
| 22:53.08 | batbot | Shirik|AFK, Without a doubt. |
| 22:53.11 | Shirik|AFK | =( |
| 22:53.17 | Tem | batbot, is this song going to make me insane? |
| 22:53.18 | batbot | Tem, As I see it, yes. |
| 22:53.21 | Tem | crap |
| 22:53.26 | Shirik|AFK | Fine, going to go work on my bot. And you know what, it's not going to have any bugs either! |
| 22:53.34 | Shirik|AFK | And you know why? It's because I won't use LuaTask! |
| 22:53.55 | Tem | dueling bots |
| 22:54.10 | Tem | batbot, /duel |
| 22:56.20 | batrick | Shirik|AFK: we need to get to work on filumlunaris roffles |
| 22:56.36 | Shirik|AFK | affirmative, and I think "roffles" should become part of its name |
| 22:56.46 | batrick | kay |
| 22:57.00 | Shirik|AFK | And if there were an SVN server... you know... |
| 22:57.06 | batrick | it's up! |
| 22:57.12 | Shirik|AFK | or git, because according to torvalds, SVN doesn't work |
| 22:57.22 | Shirik|AFK | password! |
| 22:57.30 | batrick | u have an account silly |
| 22:57.39 | batrick | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:57.40 | batrick | gogo |
| 22:57.45 | Shirik|AFK | gah |
| 23:00.15 | Shirik|AFK | hmmmmm |
| 23:00.24 | Shirik|AFK | -rw-r--r-- 1 batrick batrick 309 2008-01-22 00:28 passwd |
| 23:00.27 | Shirik|AFK | What's wrong with this picture |
| 23:00.52 | Shirik|AFK | How am I supposed to add an account for me like that :P |
| 23:01.33 | batrick | hrm |
| 23:02.16 | Shirik|AFK | I have to go for a bit, will be back later |
| 23:02.22 | Shirik|AFK | well, will be on from school |
| 23:03.36 | batrick | there |
| 23:03.38 | batrick | fixed |
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| 23:04.35 | kd3 | whee, forum bugs are fun |
| 23:05.22 | zenzelezz | more fun than bug forums anyway |
| 23:07.45 | Lunessa | wow... new look for WoWi... Yes, I know.. old news Lunessa, but still. |
| 23:07.59 | Cairenn | not that old, only yesterday |
| 23:08.44 | kamdis | Cairenn: I love it by the way. |
| 23:08.51 | Cairenn | thanks kamdis :) |
| 23:10.05 | zenzelezz | I like it, minus the fact that the main page isn't the portal anymore... had to change my bookmark and everything |
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| 23:10.41 | Cairenn | zenzelezz: you can set that in your UserCP options |
| 23:12.19 | kamdis | zenzelezz: qq more nub? |
| 23:13.38 | zenzelezz | Cairenn: too late now, I already changed my bookmark :-o |
| 23:13.45 | Cairenn | heh |
| 23:14.19 | zenzelezz | but the portal reminded me that I'm not a paying customer, I should change that now that I make money |
| 23:15.28 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn, who picked the colors for the light version? |
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| 23:15.50 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: dolby |
| 23:21.04 | TecnoBrat | whats wrong with the colors?! :P |
| 23:21.28 | Thunder_Child | the light one TecnoBrat |
| 23:21.35 | Thunder_Child | the dark is great |
| 23:22.12 | TecnoBrat | yea, not a fan of the brown |
| 23:23.22 | TecnoBrat | see my modified wowhead? http://wow.tecnobrat.com/wowhead/demo-itemfilter.png |
| 23:23.28 | TecnoBrat | :P |
| 23:24.11 | Thunder_Child | going to be rolled out for WotLK> |
| 23:24.12 | Thunder_Child | ?* |
| 23:24.34 | TecnoBrat | I released the greasemonkey script on the wowhead forums already :P |
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| 23:29.35 | Thunder_Child | you know, after 30+ years of gore-tex being developed, why is it still so damn expensive |
| 23:31.42 | Shirik|Ecole | Anyone here used RXTX library for java? |
| 23:31.51 | cogwheel | anyone watch nip/tuck? |
| 23:37.44 | zenzelezz | cogwheel: is that a fancy way to say porn? |
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| 23:40.03 | cogwheel | zenzelezz: well... i'd say 'no' but it does have an awful lot of sex in it... |
| 23:40.06 | cogwheel | http://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/originals/niptuck_s5/ |
| 23:40.52 | Kaso | i watched like the first season when it came out years ago, but got bored |
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| 23:41.40 | Kaso | thats a really good image on that website |
| 23:44.59 | Thunder_Child | thats the image for the billboards around here |
| 23:46.49 | Kaso | seems very fitting for the show |
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