| 00:00.10 | Seracht | is putbull still the best unitframes around? |
| 00:00.14 | Cidan | I also have no idea what UI's those are |
| 00:00.22 | Cidan | That's a matter of choice |
| 00:00.28 | Cidan | I use aguf my self. |
| 00:00.32 | Shirik | I would never have said pitbull was the best |
| 00:00.38 | Shirik | But there are others that swear by it |
| 00:00.42 | Shirik | It's a matter of opinion |
| 00:00.55 | Seracht | actually AGUF will do |
| 00:01.02 | Seracht | has good ones built right in :P |
| 00:01.11 | Seracht | any recommendations on bars? |
| 00:01.18 | Seracht | (as you can tell I just resubscribed) |
| 00:01.59 | Cidan | And if you really want a unit frame that lets you do almost anything, look at nerfed |
| 00:02.07 | Cidan | As for Bars, I prefer Bongos2 |
| 00:02.16 | Seracht | is bongos now ace? |
| 00:02.23 | Cidan | I don't know. |
| 00:02.25 | Shirik | no |
| 00:02.26 | Cidan | I don't think so. |
| 00:02.33 | Cidan | Thank the lord for that, I guess. |
| 00:02.50 | Seracht | ace is bad? |
| 00:02.57 | Cidan | Some swear by it. |
| 00:03.00 | Cidan | I hate it. |
| 00:03.11 | Seracht | hmm what others to get |
| 00:03.25 | Seracht | casting bar? |
| 00:03.38 | Seracht | I geuss that's all I need for pvp |
| 00:04.08 | Seracht | ooo clearfont :P |
| 00:06.14 | Cidan | This is my UI right now |
| 00:06.18 | Cidan | A bit messy, but eh |
| 00:06.24 | Cidan | http://emoemu.com/cidui.jpg |
| 00:06.39 | Thunder_Child | the eyes BURN! |
| 00:06.48 | Cidan | DIAF |
| 00:08.03 | Cidan | autobar on the right, bongos2 for the buttons, AGUF, Squeenix for the map |
| 00:08.30 | Cidan | Which reminds me, as you can see in the screenshot, EBB (top right) is broken |
| 00:08.34 | Cidan | I should fix it. |
| 00:09.52 | Seracht | new char Cidan? |
| 00:10.15 | Cidan | Oh no, that's my Day 3 Paladin from release. |
| 00:10.18 | Cidan | Still level 66. |
| 00:11.09 | Seracht | lol |
| 00:11.15 | Seracht | I keep trying to make new chars |
| 00:11.17 | Seracht | get bored though |
| 00:11.18 | Seracht | dunno why |
| 00:11.41 | Seracht | ok so I need: Castbar, buffs |
| 00:11.44 | Seracht | any recommendatinos on those? |
| 00:12.08 | Cidan | I use eCastingBar |
| 00:12.11 | Cidan | and buffs, depends |
| 00:12.26 | Cidan | for now I use BuffWatch++; it's by far the best. |
| 00:12.30 | Cidan | In particular for Paladins |
| 00:14.20 | kergoth | i like dotimer myself |
| 00:16.46 | Seracht | sigh |
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| 00:22.50 | Shirik | DNS request timed out. |
| 00:22.51 | Shirik | timeout was 2 seconds. |
| 00:22.51 | Shirik | *** Request to dns-cac-lb-01.tampabay.rr.com timed-out |
| 00:22.52 | Shirik | die die die |
| 00:23.04 | NightHawkTheSane | man, fuck tampa. |
| 00:23.06 | Shirik | Brighthouse should be sued for false advertisement or something, they do not provide the service they say they do |
| 00:26.27 | Thunder_Child | Cidan, one thing, clean up your minimap buttons |
| 00:30.52 | Shirik | Cidan, one more thing |
| 00:31.06 | Shirik | make it so changing themes doesn't break popups! |
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| 00:37.14 | Seracht | any shamans here |
| 00:37.40 | Nechckn | Seracht In theory, yes.. what's up? |
| 00:39.10 | Seracht | lkol |
| 00:39.15 | Seracht | debating between that or druid |
| 00:39.28 | Nechckn | I have both, and like 'em both |
| 00:41.13 | Nechckn | Tried going as an Elemental shaman up until 50 but sort of stalled, doing single PVE for the most part, changed to Enhancement and the levels began going by quite fast |
| 00:41.38 | Nechckn | For the Druid, he's Feral, and was before they became "en vogue" |
| 00:43.19 | Cidan | Shirik: It doesn't. |
| 00:43.20 | Shirik | Please, dear god, someone help me. kd3 |
| 00:43.21 | Shirik | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4068012451&sid=1 |
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| 00:44.58 | Esamynn|Work | Shirik: why would you keep trying? |
| 00:45.02 | Nechckn | Depending on how you play/like to play, of the two... it's a close race, but would think that theDruid is able to move between PVE, PVP, etc.. just a bit easier. |
| 00:45.46 | Shirik | Apparently he's going to change the WoW protocol |
| 00:45.52 | Shirik | I give up, I need food |
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| 00:52.58 | Shirik | Damn, CSF moves fast |
| 00:53.02 | Shirik | I might have to spend more tiem over there |
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| 00:58.05 | kd3 | anyone hear whether we're getting 2.3.3 tomorrow or not? |
| 00:59.44 | Thunder_Child | whats the ptr on? |
| 01:01.08 | kd3 | sweet, guess so. 3-11 maint according to alert |
| 01:01.14 | kd3 | ptr's still 2.3.3 |
| 01:01.20 | kd3 | er, 0.3.3 |
| 01:01.34 | Thunder_Child | ok, ya, maint then prolly |
| 01:01.55 | kd3 | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert |
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| 01:04.18 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm |
| 01:04.31 | NightHawkTheSane | you know, i could put that page on my desktop with geektool pretty easily |
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| 01:07.18 | Shirik|AFK | " I have just tried out your trial version of your game, liked it, and bought the game at a Target store locally. I use to the play this game years ago and am just now returning. I think it is ridiculous that I am having to pay subscription service beyond my purchase of a $20.00 game. I request a refund and truly think you need to rethink this money making strategy. I have many other games where I don't have to pay for such a service |
| 01:07.29 | Shirik|AFK | These people are gems, kd3 |
| 01:07.33 | Shirik|AFK | You should have shown me them earlier! |
| 01:07.55 | kd3 | ya, CS is a lot of fun |
| 01:07.58 | kd3 | I just responded to that very post, actually |
| 01:08.18 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 01:08.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Everyone who is anyone reads the CS forums, and has for a while ;) |
| 01:08.48 | Shirik|AFK | I was so close to responding, and then I just couldn't bear it |
| 01:08.50 | Shirik|AFK | I was laughing too hard |
| 01:12.54 | Esamynn|Work | I don't laugh at that kind of stuff, I just think its sad |
| 01:15.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Honest question. Why is it "sad"? |
| 01:15.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Or rather, what aspect of it is sad? |
| 01:16.06 | kd3 | I'd assume the "I weep for humanity" aspect. That's how I'd feel if I wasn't so damn jaded |
| 01:16.12 | Esamynn|Work | "I request a refund and truly think you need to rethink this money making strategy. " |
| 01:19.21 | Shirik|AFK | Lol |
| 01:19.28 | Shirik|AFK | Because Blizzard is totally not making enough money |
| 01:19.35 | Shirik|AFK | They're losing customers left and right due to this $15/mo! |
| 01:20.37 | Shirik|AFK | so both wowinterface.com and wow go down tonight |
| 01:20.39 | Shirik|AFK | it's depressing |
| 01:20.44 | Shirik|AFK | What am I to do?! |
| 01:20.44 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
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| 01:21.15 | ScytheBlade1 | I've been in here for well over a yearr, and have four posts? |
| 01:21.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've been in here for probably close to 2 and i've yet to read or post on wowi :p |
| 01:21.43 | Esamynn|Work | lol |
| 01:21.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just like the irc crew :P |
| 01:22.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mean i post comments to addons sometimes |
| 01:22.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Five posts |
| 01:23.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm, where is my registration date? |
| 01:24.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Jan 06 |
| 01:25.19 | Shirik|AFK | you average 2 posts a year |
| 01:25.19 | ScytheBlade1 | I could be worse off ;P |
| 01:25.19 | Shirik|AFK | impressive |
| 01:25.21 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 01:25.21 | ScytheBlade1 | ty |
| 01:25.29 | batrick | no u |
| 01:25.35 | Shirik|AFK | NO U |
| 01:25.35 | ScytheBlade1 | I never thought about it that way, haha |
| 01:26.12 | Shirik|AFK | grr |
| 01:26.18 | Shirik|AFK | The CSF is preventing me from getting dinner |
| 01:26.19 | Shirik|AFK | damn it! |
| 01:26.25 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 01:26.52 | ScytheBlade1 | The "using emotes is a bannable offense?" thread is pretty good |
| 01:27.22 | Thunder_Child | Shirik|AFK, CSF? |
| 01:27.36 | Shirik|AFK | customer service forums |
| 01:27.47 | Thunder_Child | oh...not the Cock Sucking Fuckers then |
| 01:28.45 | batrick | suck shit |
| 01:29.07 | batrick | shirik u fidn the bug yet |
| 01:29.34 | Shirik|AFK | Yes, but I am going to let you suffer |
| 01:29.45 | Shirik|AFK | You will have to find it for yourself |
| 01:30.00 | Shirik|AFK | That, or I might just be hiding the fact that I never found it but don't want you to know |
| 01:30.37 | batrick | i did find a bug |
| 01:30.43 | batrick | don't know if it's _the_ bug |
| 01:30.49 | Shirik|AFK | Did it have anything to do with __tostring ? |
| 01:31.43 | batrick | yes |
| 01:32.07 | Shirik|AFK | Might have been then |
| 01:32.10 | batrick | i had my code set up to expect tostring() to always return a string |
| 01:32.23 | batrick | when you changed the metamethod to not return anything, it broke the thread |
| 01:32.33 | Shirik|AFK | ahh |
| 01:32.43 | Shirik|AFK | but that didn't cause the crash that I wanted |
| 01:32.52 | Shirik|AFK | only a lockup which was then killed by the timer |
| 01:35.14 | batrick | --> function batbot(i) print("purl, say --> batbot("..(i+1)..")") end |
| 01:35.19 | batrick | that what u need btw |
| 01:35.29 | batrick | purl: say --> batbot(1) |
| 01:35.29 | purl | --> batbot(1) |
| 01:35.30 | batbot | purl: purl, say --> batbot(2) |
| 01:35.34 | batrick | grr |
| 01:35.42 | batrick | --> function batbot(i) print("say --> batbot("..(i+1)..")") end |
| 01:35.48 | batrick | purl: say --> batbot(1) |
| 01:35.49 | purl | --> batbot(1) |
| 01:35.49 | batbot | purl: say --> batbot(2) |
| 01:35.50 | purl | --> batbot(2) |
| 01:35.50 | batbot | purl: say --> batbot(3) |
| 01:35.51 | purl | --> batbot(3) |
| 01:35.51 | batbot | purl: say --> batbot(4) |
| 01:35.52 | purl | --> batbot(4) |
| 01:35.52 | batbot | purl: say --> batbot(5) |
| 01:35.53 | purl | --> batbot(5) |
| 01:35.57 | Shirik|AFK | oopsie |
| 01:36.31 | Shirik|AFK | Okay really |
| 01:36.33 | Shirik|AFK | I need food |
| 01:37.28 | ScytheBlade1 | THE "CUSTOMER SERVICE" BOARDS CALL YOU, SHIRIK! YOU CANNOT HIDE! |
| 01:37.57 | Cidan | no |
| 01:37.59 | Cidan | no food |
| 01:38.04 | Cidan | Never. |
| 01:38.15 | Cidan | Oh hey, I have this huge plate of food in front of me though |
| 01:38.17 | Cidan | like no joke |
| 01:38.19 | Cidan | so brb, eating |
| 01:39.27 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
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| 01:39.44 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 01:39.59 | kd3 | ahahahaah! the "kd3 for mvp" cause has returned on the PTR forum |
| 01:40.06 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
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| 01:43.48 | kd3 | oh wow. via el reg: "Brazil bans the evil sold in 'EverQuest' and 'Counter-Strike'" |
| 01:44.26 | kd3 | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/01/22/brazil_bans_everquest_counterstrike/ |
| 01:50.04 | Shirik | heh, batrick, I think I killed the thread again |
| 01:50.52 | kd3 | heh, the GMs are having fun tonight too. http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4032300647&sid=1#13 |
| 01:51.38 | Shirik | oh wow I REALLY killed it that time |
| 01:52.06 | Shirik | batbot doesn't like me, it refuses to respond to my script =( |
| 01:57.46 | batrick | if u send it to many messages it will ignore you for 45 seconds |
| 01:57.56 | kd3 | slouken's back/posting from home again |
| 01:58.20 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 02:00.03 | Esamynn|Work | lol |
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| 02:02.18 | Shirik | That's a new error message |
| 02:02.27 | Shirik | "chunk has too many syntax levels" |
| 02:02.39 | Esamynn|Work | O_o |
| 02:02.44 | Esamynn|Work | lol |
| 02:02.54 | Shirik | I ran assert(loadstring(("return coroutine.wrap(function()"):rep(200).." return 1"..(" end)()"):rep(200)))() |
| 02:02.56 | Esamynn|Work | show us the chunk! |
| 02:03.13 | Esamynn|Work | ~lart Shirik |
| 02:03.13 | purl | takes a large goose feather pillow and swings it wildly in Shirik's direction, hitting Shirik and sending Shirik flying into the closet |
| 02:03.15 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4032680621&postId=41178841033&sid=1#4 |
| 02:03.22 | Shirik | I'm depressed really, that took me a very long time to figure out how to piece together |
| 02:03.27 | Shirik | and Lua just spat it back at me like "stfu" |
| 02:04.41 | Shirik | clad|sleep, please don't kill me if this breaks your bot, I have to try it |
| 02:04.43 | Shirik | lua> assert(loadstring(("return coroutine.wrap(function()"):rep(200).." return 1"..(" end)()"):rep(200)))() |
| 02:04.43 | lua_bot | Shirik: [string "assert(loadstring(("return coroutine.wrap(f..."]:1: [string "return coroutine.wrap(function()return coroutine.wrap(function(..."]:1: '<eof>' expected near 'end' |
| 02:04.59 | Shirik | Oh right, clad|sleep's bot chops off strings |
| 02:04.59 | Shirik | boo |
| 02:05.04 | Esamynn|Work | lol |
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| 02:05.25 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+v cogwheel] by ChanServ |
| 02:05.52 | cogwheel | ping anyone with apache2 xp |
| 02:06.01 | Esamynn|Work | > assert(loadstring(("return coroutine.wrap(function()"):rep(200).." return 1"..(" end)()"):rep(200)))() |
| 02:06.02 | Esamynn|Work | stdin:1: [string "return coroutine.wrap(function()return coroutine.wrap(function(..."]:1: chunk has too many syntax levels |
| 02:06.04 | Esamynn|Work | stack traceback: |
| 02:06.05 | Esamynn|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:06.07 | Esamynn|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:06.08 | Esamynn|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:06.33 | ScytheBlade1 | cogwheel: pong |
| 02:06.37 | Shirik | Anyway |
| 02:06.40 | Shirik | for reals this time, food time |
| 02:06.43 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 02:06.44 | batrick | cogwheel: sup |
| 02:06.50 | ScytheBlade1 | CS FORUMS FOR YOU, SHIRIK! YOU CANNOT RUN! |
| 02:07.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Also, cogwheel, PM |
| 02:08.02 | cogwheel | (typing) |
| 02:08.21 | Esamynn|Work | Shirik: looks like the max is 65 |
| 02:09.38 | cogwheel | ScytheBlade1 / batrick: How do I get Options -Indexes to work? I tried putting it in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf and in a .htaccess file in the root but neither of them seem to be working (i restarted httpd after making the changes) |
| 02:09.58 | kd3 | needs to be in a <Directory> container iirc |
| 02:10.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 02:10.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Also of note, for .htaccess to work, you need to have them enabled |
| 02:10.32 | kd3 | <Directory "/"> Options -Indexes </Directory> should kill it for the entire webserver |
| 02:10.38 | kd3 | something close to that, at least |
| 02:10.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Also of note #2, iirc apache defines indexes by default somewhere. Might want to considering searching your existing config file(s) for it first. |
| 02:10.57 | Duman | (you can override a global w/ a more specific, if need be, too) |
| 02:17.10 | ScytheBlade1 | I crack myself up some times. http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4064422670&sid=1 |
| 02:17.19 | ScytheBlade1 | In my defense though, it's only so often I get to say that. |
| 02:17.34 | kd3 | heh |
| 02:18.00 | Esamynn|Work | the Options directive can also go in the server config |
| 02:18.00 | cogwheel | ScytheBlade1: kd3: batrick: the end of apache2.conf looks like <Directory "/"> Options -Indexes </Directory> yet it's still showing indexes... :| |
| 02:18.05 | Esamynn|Work | http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/core.html#options |
| 02:18.13 | ScytheBlade1 | cogwheel: restart it :) |
| 02:18.17 | cogwheel | did |
| 02:18.27 | ScytheBlade1 | pastebin your .conf? |
| 02:18.31 | cogwheel | with intentional syntax errors that failed as expected to make sure it was picking up the correct file |
| 02:18.55 | cogwheel | and then fixed it, restarted, and still no go |
| 02:18.56 | kd3 | look to see if you've got another <Directory "/"> container somewhere in the middle? |
| 02:19.02 | Esamynn|Work | the <Directory> section can't go outside a sever cofig, so it is ignoring it |
| 02:19.04 | kd3 | the default httpd.conf should have one somewhere |
| 02:19.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Gogogo! |
| 02:19.47 | cogwheel | working on it... |
| 02:20.04 | Esamynn|Work | kd3: I don't think it does, it's just the built in default |
| 02:20.09 | ScytheBlade1 | If there's one thing I've found about apache, you can configure it until it configures YOU to death |
| 02:21.06 | cogwheel | the only other <Directory> is commented out |
| 02:21.18 | cogwheel | and it's hard to pastey because i'm administering my server via ssh |
| 02:21.23 | cogwheel | atm |
| 02:21.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh |
| 02:21.42 | ScytheBlade1 | cp /etc/apache2/httpd.conf /var/whatever/wwwroot |
| 02:21.47 | ScytheBlade1 | :) |
| 02:21.58 | cogwheel | just did |
| 02:22.11 | Esamynn|Work | ok, I take it back |
| 02:22.17 | cogwheel | http://eternalblue.dnsalias.net/apache2.conf |
| 02:22.39 | Esamynn|Work | it IS valid to have the Options directive outside of any directory or host section |
| 02:22.51 | cogwheel | ScytheBlade1: you actually made me think i had accedentally typed that here for a moment :P |
| 02:23.01 | ScytheBlade1 | cogwheel: lol, sorry |
| 02:23.03 | cogwheel | Esamynn|Work: yeah... that's what i read |
| 02:23.23 | cogwheel | which is why i didn't have it inside a Directory |
| 02:23.31 | Esamynn|Work | but that didn't work? |
| 02:23.35 | cogwheel | nope |
| 02:23.39 | Esamynn|Work | hmm |
| 02:23.43 | kd3 | some files in the /etc/apache2/conf.d/ directory overwriting? |
| 02:24.15 | Esamynn|Work | cogwheel: might be because it's AFTER your sites includes line |
| 02:24.39 | Esamynn|Work | s/includes/include/ |
| 02:24.39 | ScytheBlade1 | cogwheel: yeah, paste (copy) those too if you can. |
| 02:25.32 | cogwheel | ln -s /etc/apache2 /var/www/apache2 imo |
| 02:25.37 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 02:25.51 | Esamynn|Work | lol |
| 02:26.05 | cogwheel | Since the indexing is working anyway... |
| 02:26.06 | cogwheel | http://eternalblue.dnsalias.net/apache2/ |
| 02:26.21 | ScytheBlade1 | http://eternalblue.dnsalias.net/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default |
| 02:26.26 | Esamynn|Work | cogwheel: yah, try moving the Options line up |
| 02:26.27 | ScytheBlade1 | <Directory /var/www/> |
| 02:26.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Options Indexes FollowSymLinks MultiViews |
| 02:26.35 | ScytheBlade1 | There's your problem |
| 02:26.39 | Esamynn|Work | to before Include /etc/apache2/conf.d/ |
| 02:26.55 | cogwheel | ScytheBlade1: thanks |
| 02:27.03 | ScytheBlade1 | cogwheel: no problem. |
| 02:29.03 | Esamynn|Work | hey cogwheel, you need to install/enable ntpd on that server ;) |
| 02:29.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Bye bye go the indexes! |
| 02:29.14 | cogwheel | wee |
| 02:30.32 | Shirik | yey. I have food |
| 02:30.36 | Shirik | now I can go back to CSF |
| 02:30.50 | Shirik | not really though because I need to log into wow |
| 02:30.51 | cogwheel | Esamynn|Work: how come? |
| 02:31.17 | cogwheel | or more to the point, wtf's that? |
| 02:31.19 | cogwheel | :P |
| 02:31.46 | kd3 | the network time protocol daemon |
| 02:31.53 | kd3 | keeps your time synched to the atomic clocks |
| 02:32.00 | cogwheel | hmm |
| 02:32.44 | cogwheel | <3 apt-get |
| 02:32.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Keeps it more than synched. It'll also fix clock drift. |
| 02:34.03 | Esamynn|Work | I setup my own linux box at home to sync to the web clocks, and then I have the other comps in my house sync off of it |
| 02:34.21 | ScytheBlade1 | I did the same |
| 02:34.21 | cogwheel | heh |
| 02:34.42 | Wobwork | cogwheel: /signed re:apt-get |
| 02:35.15 | Shirik | "The program apt-get is currently not installed. You can install it by typing apt-get install apt" |
| 02:36.19 | batrick | thought u were getting dinner shirik |
| 02:36.24 | Shirik | I have it! |
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| 02:43.05 | Tem | wtf? |
| 02:43.09 | Tem | Garona is Full? |
| 02:43.18 | Tem | what is this dialog that I've never seen before |
| 02:43.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Ha |
| 02:43.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Welcome to my world |
| 02:43.29 | cogwheel | Tem: i'm getting that on my other realm too |
| 02:43.39 | Tem | since when? |
| 02:43.41 | cogwheel | post-christmas rush? |
| 02:43.45 | Tem | did they lower the population cap or something? |
| 02:43.54 | kd3 | there's been a good half-dozen threads in CS bitching about queues tonight. it's just the christmas zerg on a 3-day weekend. give it a few weeks |
| 02:44.03 | Tem | Garona, in 3+ years, has NEVER had a queue |
| 02:44.09 | Tem | 3 day weekend or not |
| 02:44.09 | cogwheel | ah... forgot no kids in school today... |
| 02:44.14 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: yeah, I'm on Doomhammer. Not surprised that thread popped up. |
| 02:44.16 | cogwheel | but parents still working... |
| 02:44.17 | kd3 | nah, one of the blues said they're having higher concurrency numbers now than they did at BC release |
| 02:44.22 | cogwheel | makes sense, really |
| 02:44.53 | Tem | whatever, I'm just logging my coding alt to mess around |
| 02:45.48 | batrick | my old server has really bad queue's now |
| 02:45.56 | batrick | for some reason everyone wants to go to destromath |
| 02:46.23 | Tem | that makes sense imo |
| 02:46.31 | Tem | it's one of the stronger servers in the battlegroup |
| 02:46.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Try Doomhammer. We've grown over 2000 within the past month. |
| 02:46.57 | Tem | Destromath, Cho'gall and Illidan |
| 02:47.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Whoa |
| 02:47.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Make taht 6000 |
| 02:47.05 | Tem | in terms of pvp, anyway |
| 02:47.05 | ScytheBlade1 | *that |
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| 02:54.11 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:54.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Mmmm |
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| 03:04.09 | kd3 | wow. they've already got the 2.3.3 patch out |
| 03:04.17 | Shirik | heh, I said to my guild |
| 03:04.36 | Shirik | setmetatable(manatap, {__lt = function(t, v) if v == 3 then return true; end}); |
| 03:04.39 | Shirik | and someone understood me |
| 03:04.55 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:04.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Nice |
| 03:06.17 | cogwheel | them friggin whiners better be greatful |
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| 03:07.10 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: like, live patch data gogo download now? |
| 03:07.31 | kd3 | http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/patches/2.3.3/WoW-2.3.2.7741-to-2.3.3.7799-enUS-patch.exe |
| 03:07.54 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors#2.3.3 |
| 03:09.14 | cogwheel | and probably has the hard drive space to try it ;) |
| 03:10.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Nope |
| 03:10.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Unable to validate game version |
| 03:10.43 | kd3 | figured. the patchSequenceFile doesn't have the new build in it yet |
| 03:10.53 | kd3 | http://us.version.worldofwarcraft.com/update/PatchSequenceFile.txt |
| 03:13.35 | cogwheel | wow... could anyone be denser? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3881820910&postId=41194640461&sid=1#57 |
| 03:13.43 | ScytheBlade1 | cogwheel: yes |
| 03:15.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh. Gonna go with the "yes" still. |
| 03:15.41 | cogwheel | yeah... they put a good try though :P |
| 03:15.47 | cogwheel | +up |
| 03:16.05 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:16.06 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4064422738&sid=1 |
| 03:16.31 | ScytheBlade1 | If I was Hortus, I'd be taking some time on leave before 2.4 hit the PTRs (ie, now) |
| 03:20.40 | cogwheel | Trevion is a pally, right? |
| 03:21.15 | kd3 | ya |
| 03:23.26 | batrick | zzz |
| 03:27.10 | cogwheel | ScytheBlade1: refresh :P |
| 03:32.40 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:33.48 | cogwheel | kd3: do i remember you saying you'd turn down an mvp invite? |
| 03:33.59 | kd3 | yes |
| 03:34.18 | kd3 | I'd have to resort to the same thing you're doing if I wished to continue trolling the way I am now |
| 03:36.04 | kd3 | hah |
| 03:37.47 | cogwheel | kd3: refresh |
| 03:38.06 | kd3 | ahaha |
| 03:39.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Er |
| 03:39.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Have you been asked before? |
| 03:39.59 | kd3 | no |
| 03:40.20 | kd3 | random forum trolls have brought it up. hortus responded once during 2.2 if memory serces |
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| 03:41.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Funny how word "travels." |
| 03:43.59 | ScytheBlade1 | I kind of fear the day that a large portion of this channel starts posting on alts. |
| 03:46.04 | ScytheBlade1 | The forums will be a spetcale of level two ownage. |
| 03:46.36 | Cairenn | I would never resort to such a tact ...errr, ummm, yeah, nm |
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| 03:47.09 | Cairenn | hey Seerah :) |
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| 04:08.48 | Antiarc | Ooh, the extreme-gaming guy replied |
| 04:09.10 | Shirik | Why? |
| 04:09.11 | Shirik | <3 ubuntu |
| 04:09.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Not on a low-end system |
| 04:09.21 | Cairenn | Antiarc: oh?! |
| 04:09.31 | Cairenn | what did you send to him? |
| 04:09.39 | Cairenn | and what's his response? |
| 04:09.42 | Shirik | Trust me, I have ubuntu on a far lower end system than you ScytheBlade1 |
| 04:09.47 | Antiarc | Lemme see, sec |
| 04:09.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Full GUI? ;) |
| 04:09.50 | Antiarc | Archimonde |
| 04:09.53 | JoshBorke | ~emulate JoshBorke |
| 04:09.54 | purl | ACTION hugs Cairenn |
| 04:09.54 | Tem|AFK | ScytheBlade1, tried xbuntu? |
| 04:10.04 | Shirik | Not really >< |
| 04:10.04 | kd3 | xfce <3 |
| 04:10.10 | Shirik | We kinda just leave it in text mode :P |
| 04:10.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Tem|AFK: no, but my problem isn't really with the GUI... it's with the fifty billion background services running |
| 04:10.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: yeah minor detail ;) |
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| 04:10.27 | Shirik | embedded systems ftw |
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| 04:11.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: specs on your embedded device? |
| 04:12.00 | Shirik | pentium 3 equivalent, AT power supply, 128MB ram on the main device |
| 04:12.23 | Shirik | most of the work is done on a 16MHz AtMega chip, 14K ram |
| 04:12.37 | Shirik | 2 of them, to be exact |
| 04:12.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Fun |
| 04:13.02 | Shirik | This thingy: http://arduino.cc/ |
| 04:13.08 | Shirik | two of those |
| 04:13.22 | Shirik | Though we actually formed our own PCB to make it a little smaller |
| 04:13.29 | batrick | i <3 ubuntu |
| 04:13.35 | ScytheBlade1 | So it's an actual embedded device, nice |
| 04:13.48 | ScytheBlade1 | I cheated and went with http://soekris.com/net4521.htm |
| 04:14.11 | Shirik | Those littel things are so capable it's amazing |
| 04:14.20 | Shirik | And the best part is it's all open source, so if you need to do anything you can |
| 04:14.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Nice |
| 04:14.41 | Shirik | We almost skipped the PC/104 and just used a network of those things |
| 04:14.49 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 04:14.50 | Shirik | but instead we decided a RTOS would make life simpler |
| 04:14.54 | ScytheBlade1 | PC/104 ftw :P |
| 04:15.35 | Shirik | We might drop Ubuntu though |
| 04:15.46 | Shirik | I'm trying to convince them that QNX is better (and it is) |
| 04:15.59 | Antiarc | Cairenn: http://pastie.caboo.se/private/pbeg4w3ojrw80tr9dl8izw |
| 04:16.51 | Shirik | <3 Antiarc |
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| 04:17.06 | Antiarc | I was trying to be a little harsh without outright flaming |
| 04:17.42 | Cidan | wait what |
| 04:17.46 | Cidan | drop Ubuntu what? |
| 04:18.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: nice all around |
| 04:19.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Cidan: ubuntu sucks :( |
| 04:19.13 | Cidan | I disagree, I <3 Ubuntu |
| 04:19.20 | Cidan | Really I <3 Debian |
| 04:19.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Go install it on a 700MHz with 320BM of RAM and say the same thing with a straight face ;) |
| 04:19.54 | Cidan | but if you're using some sort of hardware that is the same every time, ie: embedded systems |
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| 04:19.58 | Cairenn | Antiarc: ROFL! nicely done |
| 04:20.00 | Cidan | you shouldn't be using it |
| 04:20.27 | ScytheBlade1 | This is actually my laptop :/ |
| 04:20.48 | cogwheel | :( |
| 04:20.58 | cogwheel | Cairenn: c/p plx ;) |
| 04:21.01 | cogwheel | oh nm... |
| 04:21.08 | cogwheel | thought i missed something during my d/c |
| 04:21.22 | kd3 | ahaha, awesome |
| 04:21.26 | Cidan | ScytheBlade1: just use a debian base install then, use xfce? :P |
| 04:22.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Cidan: that's really tempting me lately. |
| 04:26.11 | Cidan | Ya, it's what I do with my servers |
| 04:26.27 | Cidan | bbl, I need to pass out for ~7 hours |
| 04:26.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Enjoy |
| 04:30.12 | Wobwork | <3 Antiarc =P |
| 04:30.54 | Antiarc | I'm normally much more understanding, but when someone comes right out and does that a) without spending 10 seconds checking it out first, and b) threatens me by saying he's trying to get me kicked offline, I get mean. |
| 04:31.30 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd be laughing like a madman if that was the case |
| 04:31.48 | Antiarc | And c) the fact that he emailed his host requesting that they terminate his own account for copyright infringement was beyond rich. |
| 04:32.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Ding |
| 04:32.34 | ScytheBlade1 | And there were lulz to be had, all around! |
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| 04:39.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Be gone, foul demon! |
| 04:39.24 | Tem|AFK | Antiarc, I think it's even funnier that he saw your forum post |
| 04:39.50 | Antiarc | If I'd wanted to keep it secret, I wouldn't have posted it in a logged IRC channel and public forum |
| 04:40.02 | Antiarc | He acts like it's a big OH HO I FOUND YOU thing |
| 04:40.14 | Antiarc | Except. Uh, I actually know about referrer logs and left the links intact! |
| 04:40.25 | Antiarc | *shock* | *awe* |
| 04:40.31 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 04:40.36 | Antiarc | Also, restarting my network connection, brb |
| 04:41.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Now for the real test |
| 04:41.16 | ScytheBlade1 | To see if it detects my CD-ROM device from the get-go |
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| 04:43.00 | Antiar1 | Yay back. |
| 04:43.47 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 04:43.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Who needs sleep?! |
| 04:45.01 | ScytheBlade1 | ... aaannnddd ubuntu is gone for good |
| 04:45.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Never again I tell you! |
| 04:47.39 | Thunder_Child | ~cheer Cairenn |
| 04:47.40 | purl | Three cheers for Cairenn! Hip hip Hurray! Hip hip Hurray! Hip hip Hurray! |
| 04:47.45 | Thunder_Child | hint? |
| 04:47.49 | Cairenn | newp |
| 04:48.24 | Industrial | ScytheBlade1: yay go archlinux |
| 04:49.17 | Wobwork | oh man |
| 04:49.21 | Wobwork | next -few- hours? |
| 04:49.32 | Wobwork | I have to leave in about 1.5 =\ |
| 04:49.47 | Industrial | leave for? |
| 04:49.54 | Wobwork | well... dinner |
| 04:49.58 | Wobwork | and then movie |
| 04:50.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: giving debian a whirl on it |
| 04:50.05 | Wobwork | social stuff, y'know |
| 04:50.13 | sdouble | /agree Industrial |
| 04:50.18 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, huh? |
| 04:50.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: whoa! Talk about reading the wrong line. Sorry, didn't mean you. |
| 04:50.40 | sdouble | debian? you may as well not have stopped using ubuntu |
| 04:51.24 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> #wowi-lounge: Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.3.x ToC: 20300 | Im in ur bitez overflowin ur stax - Bleeter |
| 04:51.36 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm pretty much judging distros by how well they detect all of my hardware in this laptop |
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| 04:51.49 | ScytheBlade1 | So far the only distro which has actually passed is gentoo, and uh, that doesn't really count |
| 04:54.20 | ScytheBlade1 | I just might go back, I dunno, we'll see |
| 04:54.24 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, np, just thought it was a little odd |
| 04:54.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: heh yeah, sorry lol |
| 04:55.56 | ScytheBlade1 | I will admit though... debian is painless to install... |
| 04:56.51 | Industrial | anyone play wow on linux? im updating with the patcher and it has downloaded 2.2.3 to 2.3.0 but I dont see the -patch.exe. after the download the installer window opens and all it sais is "waiting for files to close" :| any idea? |
| 04:59.09 | Wobwork | yus |
| 04:59.13 | Wobwork | oh |
| 04:59.14 | Wobwork | no idea |
| 04:59.17 | Wobwork | I had no problem |
| 04:59.25 | Wobwork | oh wait, I haven't patched |
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| 05:00.45 | Wobwork | hang on, we haven't had maintenence yet |
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| 05:02.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Auth servers aren't letting you on with 2.3.3 |
| 05:02.38 | ScytheBlade1 | ... oh, you're patching TO 2.3.0 |
| 05:03.00 | Wobwork | wait wait, was the last patch 2.3.0? |
| 05:03.03 | Wobwork | or todays? |
| 05:03.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Last major patch was 2.3.0 |
| 05:03.15 | Wobwork | oh. |
| 05:03.21 | Wobwork | I had no problem with that patch, Indy |
| 05:03.26 | ScytheBlade1 | We're on 2.3.2, 2.3.3 is tomorrow (or today depending on your timezone) |
| 05:03.42 | Wobwork | so confused |
| 05:04.04 | Industrial | .. I had the numbers correct |
| 05:04.15 | Industrial | this install is 2.2.3 im updating to 2.3.0 |
| 05:04.34 | Wobwork | latest wine? |
| 05:04.58 | Industrial | 0.9.53 |
| 05:06.42 | Wobwork | Wine 0.9.53 was released today, with the following main changes: RunOnce and Run entries now executed on startup. |
| 05:06.44 | Wobwork | AHA |
| 05:06.49 | Wobwork | no wonder Steam was updating |
| 05:07.11 | Wobwork | That so confused me =P I was like "But I started WoW.....not Portal..." |
| 05:07.13 | Cairenn | wowi locked for the server move |
| 05:07.22 | Wobwork | woo |
| 05:07.52 | Wobwork | FasterStrongerBetter? |
| 05:08.18 | Cairenn | we can rebuild him, we have the technology |
| 05:08.21 | Wobwork | s/FasterStrongerBetter/HarderBetterFasterStronger/ |
| 05:08.25 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 05:08.37 | ScytheBlade1 | I approve of the gnome! |
| 05:08.46 | Cairenn | s/harderbetterfasterstronger/harderfasterdeeper/ |
| 05:08.49 | Thunder_Child | Wobwork -harder |
| 05:08.51 | Industrial | o_O |
| 05:09.13 | Wobwork | Industrial: DaftPunk it up |
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| 05:09.55 | Wobwork | Industrial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl6RJyZdBSU |
| 05:11.35 | sdouble | my wow fails on linux. I have an ATI card and the game works, but most of the graphics aren't there. |
| 05:12.37 | kd3 | you install the proprietary drivers? |
| 05:12.40 | sdouble | yeah |
| 05:13.48 | sdouble | it loads and I get good fps (probably because most of the graphics aren't there) but I can't see NPCs, myself, trees |
| 05:14.05 | sdouble | I can see the ground and buildings and such |
| 05:14.52 | sdouble | I can see my footprints in the snow too. heh |
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| 05:15.26 | Wobwork | rofl http://www.lyricsfreak.com/d/daft+punk/around+the+world_10076007.html |
| 05:15.44 | Wobwork | Just in case you couldn't figure it out |
| 05:15.59 | kd3 | ahaha |
| 05:19.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn... I'd like to file a bug report... your site isn't working and I can't understand what it's telling me :/ |
| 05:19.58 | Fisker- | your mother |
| 05:20.00 | Fisker- | also Wobwork |
| 05:20.05 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 05:20.16 | Fisker- | it's forgetting the delays in the song |
| 05:20.16 | Fisker- | liek |
| 05:20.22 | Fisker- | A-round the wooorld |
| 05:20.24 | Fisker- | and so forth |
| 05:21.42 | Wobwork | Fisker-: I heard the sample, and I could swear it's from another song, but I can't place it |
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| 05:26.24 | Thunder_Child | Wobwork, it is, they use other stuff as far as i can tell |
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| 05:37.16 | Wobwork | Thunder_Child: Yeah, but -finding- where it's from is a problem =P |
| 05:37.41 | Thunder_Child | Wobwork, it's the net, someone has already done your work for you |
| 05:38.23 | Tierrie | www.anarchs.com |
| 05:38.25 | Tierrie | illidan down |
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| 05:39.02 | kd3 | so glad I'm getting the hell off of this ISP later today |
| 05:40.56 | Wobwork | actually, I think it's the original |
| 05:41.00 | Wobwork | it's just so long ago |
| 05:41.17 | Wobwork | it seems like a different song =) |
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| 05:42.56 | Thunder_Child | art3mis, you were right |
| 05:50.02 | AnduinLothar | anyone got a good archimonde strat? we've been wiping all week |
| 05:50.14 | Antiarc | Reduce his HP to 10% before he reduces yours to 0% |
| 05:50.31 | Antiarc | But really, it's just about everyone staying alive |
| 05:51.01 | Thunder_Child | it's about wining damit!! |
| 05:51.57 | AnduinLothar | how do you stay alive |
| 05:52.41 | Cairenn | ai ai ai ai staying alive staying alive |
| 05:54.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Er @ http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4064458483&postId=41178645508&sid=1#20 |
| 05:54.53 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 05:58.25 | Cairenn | wowi's back up |
| 05:58.43 | kd3 | ooh, new UI |
| 05:59.01 | kd3 | I like |
| 05:59.38 | Shadowed | brokennnn |
| 05:59.39 | Shadowed | Configuration: includes/config.php exists, but is not in the 3.6 format. Please convert your config file via the new config.php.new. |
| 05:59.48 | Shadowed | when trying to edit an addon |
| 05:59.58 | ScytheBlade1 | That was fast |
| 06:00.18 | Shadowed | Trying to see what I have to change to make the uploader use the changelog :p |
| 06:01.59 | Cairenn | glad to hear it, I've been a wreck of nerves the last few days, so worried whether people will like it or not |
| 06:02.08 | Cairenn | we've been working on this for months now |
| 06:02.21 | Fisker- | btw |
| 06:02.23 | Fisker- | surprise buttsechs |
| 06:02.28 | Cairenn | heh |
| 06:03.32 | Fisker- | would i be mean if i told you your gnomish inventors suck? |
| 06:03.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh hey look it's Mor'ladim |
| 06:03.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh hey look he's raping me |
| 06:03.38 | ScytheBlade1 | :/ |
| 06:04.07 | kd3 | didn't he get nerfed in 2.3? |
| 06:04.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Nerfed is relative |
| 06:04.18 | ScytheBlade1 | He's still a 30E |
| 06:04.31 | Fisker- | your mother is 30DD |
| 06:04.34 | Fisker- | LOLOL |
| 06:04.42 | Fisker- | work tiem |
| 06:04.42 | Fisker- | bai |
| 06:05.01 | Shadowed | hmm |
| 06:05.05 | Shadowed | submitting and editing is broken :( |
| 06:12.29 | Cairenn | guys, http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=81761#post81761 for feedback, bug reports, etc - so it's all in one place for dolby-wowi to find |
| 06:13.36 | Seerah | Shadowed: I was able to edit my SS description to move changelogs from the description to the new changelog tab |
| 06:13.55 | Shadowed | SS? |
| 06:14.15 | Seerah | my ui |
| 06:14.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Screenshot |
| 06:14.32 | Seerah | don't you keep up with it? I thought you were a loyal fan ;) |
| 06:14.53 | Seerah | not screenshot - Seerah's Suitcase |
| 06:15.10 | Shadowed | Could be it got fixed, dunno |
| 06:15.14 | Shadowed | and no i don't :p |
| 06:16.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, I'm so not sold on debian |
| 06:16.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Mouse sensitivity is broken :/ |
| 06:17.49 | Shadowed | stupid forums |
| 06:17.52 | Shadowed | stop saying it doesn't work |
| 06:18.17 | Shadowed | Cairenn: Did you guys disable uploading attachments? |
| 06:18.40 | Cairenn | Shadowed: don't think so ... |
| 06:18.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Ha, I've got CentOS 5 ISOs here |
| 06:19.08 | Shirik | Shadowed: btw, looking into the problem with uploading addons right now |
| 06:19.23 | Shadowed | Shirik: Get to work! |
| 06:19.28 | Shadowed | Keeps saying invalid image on this jpg but it's 158KB and 1568x1151 so should be fine |
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| 06:21.40 | Cairenn | one of the things we didn't mention in the post is that not only did we add MD5 hashes, but we've added SHA1 as well |
| 06:22.08 | Cairenn | we just aren't showing the SHA1 id to the public, but it's there |
| 06:22.55 | Shirik | Shadowed: Uploads should be fixed |
| 06:23.01 | ScytheBlade1 | What are you doing with the SHA1/MD5? |
| 06:23.12 | Shadowed | So you can't sneak viruses in i'd imagine |
| 06:23.15 | Shadowed | s/can't/harder to/ |
| 06:23.19 | Shirik | Well the MD5 is displayed to the public. Feel free to verify it if you want. |
| 06:23.20 | Shadowed | err, remove the you too |
| 06:23.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Right. But there's no point to storing a SHA1 unless you do something with it :) |
| 06:23.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Be it show it or somerthing else :) |
| 06:23.46 | ScytheBlade1 | *something |
| 06:23.57 | Shirik | Well... it has a purpose :) |
| 06:24.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Hence my question ;) |
| 06:24.26 | Shadowed | aw damnit |
| 06:24.31 | Shadowed | now I have to reinstall Java SDK |
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| 06:24.44 | Tem|AFK | so if people modify the files like what's been happening to wow.incgamers, they'll know |
| 06:24.50 | Tem|AFK | and wowi won't get any bad press from it |
| 06:25.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay fine I'll just ask my question straight :P |
| 06:25.33 | Tem|AFK | displaying the md5s is for the paranoid among us to check when you download |
| 06:25.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Any automated compairsons being done on a timed basis? |
| 06:25.43 | Seerah | I thought you were going to sleep, Tem|AFK? :) |
| 06:25.48 | Shadowed | ~sleep |
| 06:25.49 | purl | sleep is, like, overrated, and a poor substitute for caffeine. |
| 06:25.52 | Tem|AFK | I'm attempting sleep |
| 06:25.58 | Seerah | oh... different |
| 06:26.05 | kd3 | woo, my third post ever on wowi |
| 06:26.14 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: I'm two up on you! |
| 06:26.15 | Seerah | Shadowed: I tested uploading, and it doesn't work for me either- it will be looked into :) |
| 06:26.15 | Cairenn | kd3: lol |
| 06:26.22 | Shadowed | Seerah: Updating works fine now |
| 06:26.36 | Seerah | sorry, I meant attachments |
| 06:27.13 | Shadowed | oh |
| 06:28.11 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: you use FC, right? |
| 06:28.20 | Cairenn | attachments should be fixed now |
| 06:28.25 | kd3 | ya. hacked up version of xfce with compiz |
| 06:28.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Thoughts on using it (in general) on very low end systems? |
| 06:28.56 | Tem|AFK | ScytheBlade1, I would imagine so, but they probably aren't telling |
| 06:29.02 | kd3 | that's what xfce's designed for |
| 06:29.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Tem|AFK: still asking ;) |
| 06:29.23 | kd3 | even though I'm using it on a core 2 quad Q6600 |
| 06:29.37 | Seerah | Cairenn: and they are :) |
| 06:29.41 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: my problem with Ubuntu was actually the *massive* amount of background services. :/ |
| 06:29.48 | Shadowed | wellll thats a pain in the ass |
| 06:29.53 | kd3 | system-config-services, disable as you like |
| 06:30.05 | kd3 | in f8, that is |
| 06:30.16 | Shadowed | hrm |
| 06:30.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Eh, that's what chkconfig is for ;) |
| 06:30.37 | Shadowed | Seerah or Cairenn or whoever i'm supposed to bug, you guys upgraded vB right? |
| 06:30.44 | Shirik | oh sure |
| 06:30.48 | Shirik | I'm not important enough |
| 06:30.49 | Shirik | ok |
| 06:30.59 | Seerah | Shirik would know better than I ;) |
| 06:31.02 | Shirik | I helped find the problem with uploading addons but no |
| 06:31.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: no you're not important, at all |
| 06:31.23 | Shadowed | Seerah came up first when I hit tab! |
| 06:31.28 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [-o Shirik] by Shirik |
| 06:31.35 | Seerah | lol |
| 06:31.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Haha |
| 06:31.53 | Shirik | !op |
| 06:31.57 | Shirik | bleh, CS you suck |
| 06:31.58 | Shadowed | Shirik: Do you know if something changed in how it handles non-cookie season ids? Uploader broke and it looks like it no longer passes the season ID through the cookie anyway |
| 06:32.02 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 06:32.39 | Tem|AFK | Does anyone know of a media player that runs in windows that will allow you advance or go back by ~10 seconds by hitting a keybind? |
| 06:32.41 | Shirik | I don't know the old way of how it was handled, so unfortunately I can't answer that question |
| 06:33.15 | Shirik | However I see a bbsessionhash cookie |
| 06:33.16 | Shirik | oops |
| 06:33.21 | Shirik | bbsessionhash cookie which seems relevant |
| 06:33.41 | Shadowed | Old way was, in the HTTP Set-Cookie header it'd pass "bbsessionhash=([a-z0-9]+);" as one of the things which we then checked for authentication |
| 06:33.51 | batrick | ~hate |
| 06:33.52 | purl | ,,|, |
| 06:33.57 | Cairenn | I'm still waiting for someone, anyone, to laugh at my news post about it :p |
| 06:34.04 | Shirik | Well I still have a bbsessionhash cookie, though it may be out of date |
| 06:34.15 | Shadowed | Most likely |
| 06:34.25 | Shadowed | Cookie: bblastactivity=0; expires=Wed, 21-Jan-2009 06:29:36 GMT; path=/; domain= |
| 06:34.25 | Shadowed | .wowinterface.com |
| 06:34.29 | Arrowmaster | Tem|AFK: MediaPlayerClassic seems to have a few keybindings for stuff like that but i dont know the amount of time they jump |
| 06:34.48 | Tem|AFK | amount is more or less irrelevant |
| 06:34.53 | Tem|AFK | so long as it's not very long |
| 06:35.10 | Tem|AFK | I just need to be able to back up easily in the event that I missed something |
| 06:35.25 | Tem|AFK | without resorting to trying to drag the little "you are here" slider |
| 06:36.19 | Shadowed | hrm |
| 06:36.31 | Arrowmaster | well i see a Framestep, Framestep back, Jump Forward (small), Jump Backward (small), Jump Forward (medium), Jump Backward (medium), Jump Forward (large), Jump Backward (large), Jump Forward (keyframe), Jump Backward (keyframe) |
| 06:37.33 | Arrowmaster | oh hey and under tweaks in the options theres a place to set jump small medium and large in ms |
| 06:37.47 | Shirik | Anyway, ScytheBlade1, to answer your question as much as I am allowed to... as far as I am aware, you are wrong. But be advised that it is actually something more secure than you described. |
| 06:37.53 | Tem|AFK | Arrowmaster, that's exactly what I want |
| 06:37.57 | Tem|AFK | thanks very much |
| 06:38.21 | Arrowmaster | and now i get to ask why the hell you werent using MPC before |
| 06:38.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: boo wtb details because I'm curious ;P |
| 06:39.04 | Shirik | Even if it were a honey pot I wouldn't give out details :) |
| 06:39.07 | Shadowed | bad Shirik, Parse error: syntax error, unexpected $end in /var/www/vhosts/wowinterface.com/httpdocs/index.php on line 77 |
| 06:39.09 | Shirik | There's no fun in that |
| 06:39.39 | Shirik | oh |
| 06:39.41 | Shirik | where did you get that? |
| 06:39.58 | Shadowed | wowinterface.com |
| 06:40.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Actually there's a lot of fun in it, especially when the only thing "more secure" than automated comparisons are things entirely different, and that made me curious ;) |
| 06:40.11 | Shirik | I... don't |
| 06:40.11 | Shadowed | someone fixed it already! |
| 06:40.17 | Shirik | I think you made it up |
| 06:40.21 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 06:40.23 | Shadowed | Not my fault you're a slacker |
| 06:40.27 | ScytheBlade1 | You have him a minor heart attack, congrats |
| 06:40.42 | ScytheBlade1 | *gave |
| 06:40.44 | Shirik | I feel the need to point out that I don't design the site, dolby-wowi does |
| 06:40.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Have? wtf? |
| 06:40.55 | Shirik | he deserves the credit.... and the complaints :P |
| 06:40.56 | Shadowed | How many minor heart attacks do I have to give him before he dies? |
| 06:41.07 | Shadowed | Shirik: But you're here, dolby-wowi isn't! |
| 06:41.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: yeah I know, just giving you a hard time for indirectly taunting me.. ;) |
| 06:41.17 | Tem|AFK | Arrowmaster, I wasn't using it before because the last time I tried it, I didn't have the proper codec installed |
| 06:41.20 | Shirik | What makes you think dolby-wowi isn't listening to every word you say |
| 06:41.23 | Tem|AFK | so it failed miserably |
| 06:41.32 | Tem|AFK | but I do now so everthing works nicely |
| 06:41.36 | Shadowed | It's dolby-wowi |
| 06:41.37 | Shadowed | thats why |
| 06:41.42 | Shirik | much like Cairenn when she "says" she's afk |
| 06:41.46 | Shadowed | Well thats a pain in the ass |
| 06:42.00 | Shadowed | They renamed the cookie value from bbsessionhash to bbsessionid |
| 06:42.08 | Shirik | heh |
| 06:42.22 | Antiarc | Cairenn: I like the new layout. |
| 06:42.25 | Antiarc | Feels a lot sleeker. |
| 06:43.08 | Cairenn | definitely going to take some getting used to though |
| 06:43.12 | ScytheBlade1 | To be honest, I really do too. It removed the "lawl I'm running vBulletin like every other web portal in the world" feel and that really helps a ton. |
| 06:43.34 | Shadowed | Looks like it's not going to die horribly come patch day either |
| 06:43.37 | ScytheBlade1 | It's got a unique look to it, so, yay |
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| 06:44.53 | Shadowed | You guys should design Sun's website to be less confusing |
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| 06:46.00 | Shirik | Shadowed: Are you able to delete those archive files again? |
| 06:47.32 | Shadowed | Shirik: I didn't delete them all since I want to keep them, but I was able to delete one |
| 06:47.54 | Shirik | I thought you wanted them to be deleted >< |
| 06:48.11 | Shirik | Ok though :) Thanks |
| 06:48.13 | Shadowed | I used to, not anymore :p |
| 06:48.21 | Shadowed | But they popped back up, which seems a bit odd |
| 06:50.45 | Shirik | holy crap |
| 06:50.53 | Shirik | gmail detects firebug running and warns you to turn it off? |
| 06:51.07 | Iriel | why would it do that? |
| 06:51.15 | Shadowed | Wonder how it would manage to detect it anyway |
| 06:51.17 | Shirik | Supposedly it makes it slow (and I did feel it) |
| 06:51.20 | Shirik | but how does it detect that... |
| 06:52.20 | Iriel | maybe firebug mentions itself in the HTTP header |
| 06:53.42 | Iriel | Hm, nope.. maybe a javascript probe then? |
| 06:53.43 | Antiarc | It might check load times or run some function or something |
| 06:53.56 | Antiarc | Which would give different results if Firebug is installed or not |
| 06:55.01 | Shirik | gmail does indeed check run times |
| 06:55.02 | Iriel | if (!cookie_exists && "console" in window && "firebug" in window.console && window.console.firebug.indexOf("1.0") > -1) |
| 06:55.05 | Shirik | but I don't think it assumes firebug |
| 06:55.16 | Shirik | because I've seen it say before "gmail is taking a long time to load" |
| 06:55.21 | Iriel | from; http://digg.com/tech_news/Gmail_Analyzes_your_Firefox_Plugins |
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| 06:57.14 | Thunder_Child | why isnt Do While IBR != "" |
| 06:57.17 | Thunder_Child | valid |
| 06:57.24 | Thunder_Child | in VB |
| 06:57.51 | Shirik | Because VB is inherently flawed |
| 06:57.56 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ |
| 06:58.04 | NightHawkTheSane | also, i think you want <> instead of !=? |
| 06:58.05 | Shirik | Doesn't VB retain variable name suffixing? |
| 06:58.22 | Thunder_Child | huh it likes <> |
| 06:58.26 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, i dont know |
| 06:58.26 | Shirik | In BASIC you used suffixes to indicate your variable types |
| 06:58.26 | NightHawkTheSane | :P |
| 06:58.44 | Shirik | I% is an integer, I$ is a string, I# is a float, I! is a boolean |
| 06:58.44 | Thunder_Child | NightHawkTheSane, my book on the other hand shows != |
| 06:58.54 | NightHawkTheSane | your book is wrong. |
| 06:59.16 | Shirik | Even functions retained this property |
| 06:59.34 | Thunder_Child | actually NightHawkTheSane <> is returning as Boolean |
| 06:59.38 | Shirik | CHR$() returns a string (well actually a character, but no difference) |
| 06:59.50 | Shirik | Ah, how I remember using CHR$(36) |
| 06:59.53 | NightHawkTheSane | er, yea? |
| 07:00.07 | Thunder_Child | nvm |
| 07:00.53 | Tem|AFK | languages created for the purpose of teaching programming should NOT EVER be used for a real program |
| 07:02.32 | Shirik | Like sheme? |
| 07:02.34 | Shirik | scheme* |
| 07:09.10 | Thunder_Child | NightHawkTheSane, that crashes the program :/ |
| 07:11.22 | Shirik | VB can crash? |
| 07:11.30 | Thunder_Child | so it seems |
| 07:12.03 | NightHawkTheSane | are you using vb, or vb.net? |
| 07:13.10 | Thunder_Child | 2K5 |
| 07:13.47 | Thunder_Child | it's the edition after vb.net but they change names so much..... |
| 07:14.09 | NightHawkTheSane | well, hell if i know, <> is the inequality operator :P |
| 07:15.44 | NightHawkTheSane | course, you could always use string.isnullorempty |
| 07:16.19 | Shirik | uh |
| 07:16.28 | Shirik | if the string is null and you try to compare it, that should crash your program |
| 07:16.48 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, yeah, that too |
| 07:16.59 | Thunder_Child | actually i get "Warning1Access of shared member, constant member, enum member or nested type through an instance; qualifying expression will not be evaluated." |
| 07:17.10 | NightHawkTheSane | which, really, is why you use IsNullorEmpty, because var isnot nothing andalso var <> "" is far too verbose |
| 07:18.22 | Shirik | But this gets back to my feeling that a language should mimic how computers work |
| 07:18.29 | Shirik | And many people don't agree with me :) |
| 07:19.04 | NightHawkTheSane | i really don't care about the basics of string comparisons. :P |
| 07:19.18 | Shirik | This is the same reason I dislike Lua's ^ operator |
| 07:19.30 | NightHawkTheSane | what does ^ do in lua? |
| 07:19.34 | Shirik | power |
| 07:19.38 | Shirik | 2^3 = 8 |
| 07:19.42 | NightHawkTheSane | ahh |
| 07:19.50 | kd3 | isn't that fairly standard? |
| 07:19.54 | Shirik | Not really |
| 07:20.05 | NightHawkTheSane | well, most languages use a library function |
| 07:20.08 | NightHawkTheSane | pow() or somesuch |
| 07:20.14 | Corrodias | java included |
| 07:20.20 | Shirik | Java doesn't have it, C doesn't have it, and sure as hell assembly opcodes don't exist on most processors for it |
| 07:20.35 | Corrodias | but why do you dislike it? |
| 07:20.36 | Shirik | imho it should be a function, which is odd because there IS a function in Lua to do it for you |
| 07:20.42 | Shirik | math.pow |
| 07:20.44 | Corrodias | it is used on calculators, and feels natural |
| 07:20.52 | Shirik | it may feel natural to you, not me |
| 07:21.07 | NightHawkTheSane | i dont want to program like im on a calculator, though |
| 07:21.10 | Shirik | My argument is that a language should mimic the way a computer works, and computers do not compute powers |
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| 07:21.41 | Iriel | That's a somewhat silly argument |
| 07:21.47 | Shirik | Yeah that's what I keep being told |
| 07:21.49 | Shirik | but I'm sticking to it |
| 07:21.55 | Corrodias | write a class in C++ that overloads the '=' operator to crash the program after overwriting the main drive's boot sector with the repeating string, "THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!" |
| 07:22.02 | Iriel | a language should express the desires of the programmer, the compiler should worry about how the computer works |
| 07:22.18 | Shirik | And this is the difference in thinking between a software engineer and a computer engineer |
| 07:22.25 | Shirik | and I'll stick to C |
| 07:22.29 | Thunder_Child | woot got it! |
| 07:22.32 | Thunder_Child | my bas |
| 07:22.38 | Thunder_Child | s/bas/bad/ |
| 07:22.43 | Corrodias | the problem with having the language work how a computer works is that languages are increasinly designed to get us AWAY from how the computer works and make it easier to write things |
| 07:22.59 | Iriel | It just depends what you're trying to do.. i'll still write my device drivers in C and C++ |
| 07:23.05 | Shirik | And this, unfortunately, is a major cause of problems in today's programs as well |
| 07:23.15 | Shirik | How many programmers today don't even know how a computer works |
| 07:23.18 | Iriel | but that doesn't make me dislike java, or perl, or lua, any more or less |
| 07:23.25 | Iriel | well, there is that.. that does sadden me |
| 07:23.26 | End | Cairenn: to be honest, I kinda like the new look a little better |
| 07:23.32 | Corrodias | i have only an approximate idea |
| 07:23.39 | End | less...cluttery looking |
| 07:23.53 | Shirik | At the very minimum programmers should at least know what's going on behind the scenes |
| 07:23.54 | Iriel | I think everyone should have had at least one computer where they understood what every wire was for |
| 07:23.56 | Cairenn | you aren't hurting our feelings any guys, we've been working on this for months |
| 07:24.04 | Cairenn | we *want* people to like it :) |
| 07:24.06 | End | good |
| 07:24.10 | Shirik | so when I say that I need a "unsigned char**" I don't get someone going up to me saying "wtf is this double star thingy" |
| 07:24.11 | End | because I do like it :P |
| 07:24.18 | Cairenn | I'm glad :) |
| 07:24.22 | Shirik | Then I say "It's a pointer to a pointer" and then they say "why the hell would you need that" |
| 07:24.35 | Shirik | And then I try to spend the next 30 minutes explaining why and then they think I'm stupid |
| 07:24.46 | Iriel | then you fire them? |
| 07:24.50 | Corrodias | i can't offhand think of a reason to have pointers to pointers, but i'm sure there -are- very good reasons. an array of strings is basically that. |
| 07:24.50 | Shirik | (true story, 2 days ago btw) |
| 07:24.56 | Corrodias | afaik. |
| 07:25.00 | Iriel | there are lots of very very good reasons |
| 07:25.05 | Shirik | I had one :) |
| 07:25.12 | Iriel | pointers to functions returning pointers of pointers to functions are even useful, sometimes |
| 07:25.21 | Shirik | The function allocated memory and needed to supply back the address of that newly allocated memory |
| 07:25.21 | Iriel | and a bitch to specify if you're not awake |
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| 07:25.40 | Shirik | So you do something like unsigned char *foo; bar(&foo); and then you have your array. |
| 07:26.03 | Iriel | Damn, I dont have cdecl installed on this computer |
| 07:27.15 | Corrodias | cudeckel? nice name. :( |
| 07:27.50 | Thunder_Child | i dont get it. i had 'Foo = InputBox(foo,bar) Do While Foo <> ""' but it crashed when i did it that way :( |
| 07:28.00 | Thunder_Child | Foo being a string |
| 07:28.16 | Iriel | Was it null? |
| 07:28.19 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 07:28.30 | Thunder_Child | cancel on an InputBox comes back as "" |
| 07:28.33 | Corrodias | i have had no reason to program pointers to look at memory outside a process's own memory, so i've never worked up the motivation to learn. i really ought to some time. |
| 07:28.42 | Iriel | lvalue <> rvalue probably resolves into something like lvalue.compareLessOrGreater(rvalue) |
| 07:28.43 | Shirik | Pointers are magical |
| 07:28.56 | Thunder_Child | but != didnt work at all |
| 07:28.57 | Iriel | They're full of bits and stuff |
| 07:28.58 | Shirik | They let you do so many fun things |
| 07:29.13 | Shirik | even though fun isn't an adjective, that's how amazing they are |
| 07:29.15 | Iriel | I love pointers |
| 07:29.19 | Shirik | they let you do fun things, even though that's imposisble |
| 07:29.30 | Iriel | I also love languages where I dont have to worry about them too, depends what I'm doing. |
| 07:29.36 | End | when I first started learning C, I didn't understand what the hell you'd use them for |
| 07:29.42 | Shirik | Haha |
| 07:29.47 | Shirik | Let me show you some of my code some time |
| 07:29.48 | End | a year later, I didn't understand how I lived without them |
| 07:29.54 | Shirik | I'll show you practically every use for them |
| 07:30.10 | Corrodias | i still don't have a whole lot of use for them in my work, but i do very specific things |
| 07:30.10 | Shirik | Obviously the most basic use in C is a string. C has no concept of a "string" |
| 07:30.24 | Shirik | instead you create an array of characters, and point to the first character in the array |
| 07:30.47 | End | you don't need to tell me about pointers now ;-P |
| 07:31.03 | Iriel | I dunno,. i think data types like linked lists and trees are easier uses for pointers |
| 07:31.44 | End | probably easier to understand why you need them |
| 07:31.59 | End | but simple arrays are easier to learn how to use them, I think |
| 07:32.23 | Shirik | I could show you some scary linked lists |
| 07:32.26 | Shirik | linked lists of pointers |
| 07:32.32 | Shirik | template linked lists of pointers |
| 07:32.53 | Shirik | template<class T> class CMemory; |
| 07:32.55 | Shirik | Oh that was a fun one I wrote |
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| 07:35.01 | Iriel | On that note, sleep time for me, night all |
| 07:35.09 | Shirik | me too, night |
| 07:35.20 | Cairenn | night Iriel, Shirik |
| 07:36.04 | Iriel | Good luck with the 'aftermath' cairenn 8-) |
| 07:36.15 | Cairenn | heh, thanks Iriel :) |
| 07:36.33 | Thunder_Child | night Shirik |
| 07:36.35 | Shadowed | And WoWI updater thing works again for those who were using the old one |
| 07:36.43 | MentalPower | night all |
| 07:36.52 | Cairenn | night MentalPower, Shadowed |
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| 07:45.53 | Arrowmaster | boo wtf compilations are showing up on the latest 100 submissions page |
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| 07:48.52 | Cairenn | Arrowmaster: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=81761#post81761 :) |
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| 07:49.38 | Arrowmaster | or i can just bitch about it here and dolby can change it |
| 07:50.09 | Cairenn | heh,just pointing it out since he may miss it in here |
| 07:52.10 | Thunder_Child | posting is better |
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| 07:53.41 | Thunder_Child | oh ya, Cairenn, update the comic |
| 07:53.43 | Thunder_Child | !!! |
| 07:53.54 | Cairenn | > |
| 07:53.56 | Thunder_Child | and why does it look like .COMic |
| 07:53.58 | Cairenn | ? even |
| 07:54.04 | Industrial | unacceptable! >:| http://images.gammatester.com/pics/00ee6cf631f4954ac1cb88b0f5efeec0.jpg |
| 07:54.07 | Industrial | anyone else get this |
| 07:54.12 | Thunder_Child | on the front page Cairenn |
| 07:54.20 | Thunder_Child | above disclamer |
| 07:54.21 | Industrial | I'm getting REEALLY ANOYED by it and I cant fix it |
| 07:54.23 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: it's a joke ... WoWInterface.COMic |
| 07:54.37 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn, huh? |
| 07:54.41 | Cairenn | .com |
| 07:55.04 | Thunder_Child | ah, still though, isnt there any others you can rotate through? |
| 07:55.11 | Cairenn | wowinterface.com ... wowinterface.comic |
| 07:55.28 | Cairenn | nope, it's the only one we have ... and what needs to be "fixed" about it? |
| 07:55.50 | Thunder_Child | the fact that, there is a reason you made a new layout, things get stale |
| 07:55.59 | Thunder_Child | s/t,/t/ |
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| 08:08.45 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn, if one (or more) gets made regarding wowi and meets your aproval would you cycle comics? |
| 08:09.08 | Cairenn | very possibly :) |
| 08:09.25 | Thunder_Child | right...now to find someone to make some |
| 08:09.56 | Cairenn | heh |
| 08:10.18 | Tem|AFK | Shirik|zZz, C++'s templates are evil |
| 08:10.26 | Tem|AFK | I much prefer Java's Generics |
| 08:13.03 | reqol | if I wish to make a message frame whose message does not expire, would I be better off just creating a frame with text? currently trying to set up a warning that does not go away until I gain a specific buff |
| 08:15.51 | Cairenn|afk | night guys |
| 08:17.08 | kd3 | oyasumi |
| 08:18.31 | Thunder_Child | night Cairenn|afk |
| 08:18.36 | Thunder_Child | sleep damit |
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| 08:26.07 | Thunder_Child | "Somebody help, i have been kidnaped by someone trying to relate to me" |
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| 08:38.17 | reqol | can i just create a fontstring or do I need a housing frame? |
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| 08:38.59 | [Liquidor] | Morning all ... |
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| 08:39.12 | reqol | morning :o |
| 08:39.29 | [Liquidor] | heh it's 9:36am here :) |
| 08:44.11 | Thunder_Child | ~ugt |
| 08:44.12 | purl | from memory, ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
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| 08:59.49 | Nefarion | anyone here good with ui design and not busy? i need somebody to bounce ideas off of. =/ |
| 08:59.58 | Nefarion | and help me come up with a design |
| 09:01.03 | reqol | what needs to be true in order for a frame to be able to be clicked on? toplevel and enableMouse? |
| 09:01.27 | Thunder_Child | Nefarion, just dont accept art3mis's help |
| 09:01.32 | Industrial | ^ |
| 09:01.34 | Nefarion | :EnableMouse(true) |
| 09:01.49 | reqol | how about toplevel? |
| 09:01.51 | Thunder_Child | or you will end up with a Hello Kitty UI |
| 09:01.55 | reqol | is that required as well? |
| 09:01.59 | Nefarion | not as far as i know |
| 09:02.05 | Nefarion | ubless another clickable frame is on top of it |
| 09:02.27 | Nefarion | Thunder_Child: lol |
| 09:02.34 | cladhaire | toplevel is just to raise the frame level of the frame, when its clcked |
| 09:02.34 | Nefarion | thanks for the advice |
| 09:02.35 | cladhaire | thats all it does |
| 09:02.52 | cladhaire | so when you click a frame, its promoted to the highest frame level on that strata |
| 09:04.35 | reqol | makes sense, thanks you two :D |
| 09:04.44 | Nefarion | a credit card is required for us trial accounts, right? |
| 09:05.31 | Industrial | Is there any addon that can keep my soul shards to a certain number? its flooding my bags |
| 09:05.53 | Nefarion | using drain soul for a mana boost? |
| 09:06.01 | Industrial | yes |
| 09:06.07 | Industrial | (I am leveling) |
| 09:06.12 | Nefarion | you can use a macro like this |
| 09:06.39 | cladhaire | Industrial: ding 28, btw |
| 09:06.53 | Nefarion | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:06.59 | Nefarion | dunno if that's the right api |
| 09:07.12 | Industrial | cladhaire: xD |
| 09:07.14 | Nefarion | with a /cast Drain Soul(Rank 1) underneath the script |
| 09:07.43 | Industrial | hmmm |
| 09:08.00 | Nefarion | it what i used while leveling |
| 09:08.23 | Nefarion | you occasionally lose a soul shard here and there, but if you keep up spamming it all the time that should be a problem |
| 09:08.45 | Nefarion | shouldn't |
| 09:12.56 | reqol | If I want to set a fontstring's text to a variable defined within my addon's localization file, how can I use a variable using text="" ? or do I need to set an onload handler? |
| 09:14.27 | cladhaire | if the localization file is loaded beforehand, and you're using GLOBAL_CONSTANTS then yes, you can do it using text |
| 09:14.48 | Industrial | I see Toggle Channel Pullout in the keybinds |
| 09:14.50 | Industrial | whats that do |
| 09:14.51 | Industrial | :S |
| 09:15.02 | cladhaire | toggles the channel pullout |
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| 09:15.08 | cladhaire | for channel administration |
| 09:15.40 | reqol | cladhaire: GLOBAL_CONSTANTS? |
| 09:15.48 | cladhaire | yes |
| 09:15.49 | cladhaire | a global variablke |
| 09:16.14 | reqol | aye, indeed I am. do I refer to it with or without the quotations? guessing without |
| 09:16.21 | cladhaire | with, |
| 09:16.25 | cladhaire | without would be ill-formed XML |
| 09:16.35 | reqol | that seems somewhat restrictive |
| 09:16.38 | cladhaire | umm |
| 09:16.40 | cladhaire | its the XML format |
| 09:16.47 | cladhaire | attributes must be given as quoted strings |
| 09:16.52 | reqol | though, so long as you use decent variable names, it shouldn't matter |
| 09:17.53 | reqol | anyway, thanks :D |
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| 09:17.54 | Nefarion | if you use a non-existant global name, you'll see the global name as your text |
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| 09:18.35 | reqol | Nefarion: that's what I was getting at. what if I wanted the text to be the variable name itself? I guess I could create another variable referring to it... |
| 09:21.05 | clad|away | that's confusing. |
| 09:21.13 | clad|away | you want the text displayed, to be the name of the variable itself? |
| 09:21.24 | reqol | not in this case, but what if I had reason to |
| 09:21.30 | clad|away | then you set it elsewhere |
| 09:21.36 | clad|away | the text attribute is for simple cases |
| 09:21.43 | Nefarion | could always do it in lua |
| 09:21.44 | reqol | aye, I see. thanks |
| 09:23.11 | Nefarion | anyone know of a good working dot and cc timer that'll allow you to show icon and ime text only, that'll (preferably) remove the ugly default border on the spell icons? |
| 09:24.41 | Corrodias | i used to use chronometer, but these day i use classtimers |
| 09:24.50 | Corrodias | days |
| 09:24.54 | Nefarion | that doesn't handle multi-targets, does it? |
| 09:25.13 | Corrodias | it shows things on 1) your pet, 2) your character, 3) your target, and 4) your focus |
| 09:25.25 | Corrodias | it does not continue to show the bar of something if you're not targetting/focusing it |
| 09:25.25 | Nefarion | yeah it handles valid units only. =/ |
| 09:25.54 | Corrodias | one thing i like about chronometer is that i can see when things are about to run out on OTHER targets |
| 09:26.12 | Corrodias | but i appreciate the pet and self buffs portion of classtimer |
| 09:26.20 | Corrodias | i kinda want to use both |
| 09:26.41 | Nefarion | with chronometer, you can hide the bars? |
| 09:26.57 | Corrodias | manually, or automatically by ability name? |
| 09:27.06 | Corrodias | the former yes, the latter maybe, never tried |
| 09:46.40 | reqol | ADDON_LOADED/VARIABLES_LOADED fire before PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD, right? |
| 09:47.58 | reqol | actually, nevermind. I'm just asking if I'll be able to utilize PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD properly on login, or if I should just use PLAYER_LOGIN |
| 09:48.00 | [Ammo] | addon_loaded will also fire when an LoD addon is loaded |
| 09:48.18 | [Ammo] | you'd need PLAYER_LOGIN PEW also fires when using a boat for instance |
| 09:49.27 | reqol | [Ammo]: I thought I wanted PEW but I realized I only need it for login anyway, thanks. |
| 09:50.03 | Nefarion | PLAYER_LOGIN fires for a reload too |
| 09:50.11 | Nefarion | essentially a one-time PEW |
| 09:50.13 | [Ammo] | Nefarion: as it should |
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| 09:57.51 | Polarina | A new look? Let us see how long it takes me to find my addons there. :P |
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| 09:58.56 | Nefarion | the new look feels too flat =/ |
| 09:59.33 | Polarina | I found one, now I have to find the other.. |
| 10:00.01 | Polarina | Why is the MD5 sum in a edit box? It's so ugly there... |
| 10:00.21 | Nefarion | the new find tab is a real nice touch tho |
| 10:01.08 | Polarina | WTF is wrong with the formatting box? I can't colour my comments anymore... :'( |
| 10:01.31 | Polarina | And what is wrong with that dancing banana? It's annoying to see it there... |
| 10:02.39 | Polarina | And where are the MD5 sums for the archived files?... |
| 10:03.56 | Polarina | WTF?!? some of the most recent comments were deleted! |
| 10:04.15 | Polarina | No, wait. That wasw just me, sorry. |
| 10:06.17 | Polarina | But the other things I mentioned should be taken a look at... :P |
| 10:06.19 | reqol | variables are loaded before the addon, right? |
| 10:06.28 | Polarina | reqol: Not the saved variables. |
| 10:06.44 | Polarina | reqol: The event VARIABLES_LOADED is fired as soon as the saved variables are loaded. |
| 10:07.43 | Polarina | o.O -> What is that ChangeLog box when I click "Edit & Update" on my addons? |
| 10:07.50 | Nefarion | imo they should be loaded before the addon =/ |
| 10:08.15 | Polarina | Nefarion: Why? |
| 10:08.40 | Nefarion | you'd have data to handle immediately, and you can setup your SV structure immediately |
| 10:09.02 | Nefarion | i don't see how it would cause any issues. would save having to listen for an event to do a lot of stuff. |
| 10:09.09 | Polarina | Nefarion: It isn't a complicated work to register for one event, is it? |
| 10:09.39 | Nefarion | well no, not at all. but it's more complicated to deal with than simply dealing with during load. |
| 10:10.13 | Polarina | Nefarion: The SavedVariables file is processed immedieatly as soon as all your files in the TOC have been processed. |
| 10:16.06 | Polarina | Anyway, the new site looks great. :) |
| 10:16.40 | art3mis | heh except that annoying zimmy or whatever epileptic google ad ;) |
| 10:18.03 | reqol | if I'm calling an OnLoad handler, do I need to explicitly argue self or is it implied? |
| 10:19.02 | Tem|AFK | Why would you call an OnLoad? |
| 10:19.06 | Tem|AFK | the game calls it for you |
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| 10:19.24 | reqol | I mean, if I have an onload handler |
| 10:21.21 | Nefarion | i believe it's 'this', not 'self' |
| 10:21.56 | Nefarion | this should be implied as a global |
| 10:22.00 | Nefarion | i thinlk |
| 10:22.28 | Tem|AFK | oh the blind leading the blind, this should end well |
| 10:22.45 | Tem|AFK | reqol, I'm 80% sure you're just doing something you shouldn't |
| 10:23.05 | Tem|AFK | Nefarion, 'this' should never be used. It's deprecated and may go away sometime. |
| 10:23.21 | Nefarion | ah it is? |
| 10:23.50 | reqol | tem: I have an onload handler in my frame which calls a function. I'm trying to use 'self' in this function, but it's returning undefined. I'm asking if I need to explicitly argue it or if it's implied when called from a frame |
| 10:23.51 | Tem|AFK | every place where you have the global 'this' a local 'self' is passed to the handler |
| 10:24.14 | Tem|AFK | what do you mean by "I need to explicitly argue it" ? |
| 10:24.19 | Tem|AFK | that doesn't make any sense to me |
| 10:24.20 | Nefarion | reqol: if you're registering your handlers in Lua, the first arg passed is the frame by the way, so you can use it |
| 10:24.20 | reqol | as in myfunction(self) |
| 10:24.31 | Tem|AFK | oh, declare it as an arugment |
| 10:24.34 | Tem|AFK | yes |
| 10:24.43 | Tem|AFK | you must have 'self' in the argument list |
| 10:24.56 | Tem|AFK | (unless you're defining the function with the : operator) |
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| 10:25.06 | Tem|AFK | (but you probably aren't) |
| 10:25.08 | Nefarion | this will be available lua-side though |
| 10:25.21 | Nefarion | so if you're passing it to the function, then calling self, why not avoid passing it and call this? |
| 10:25.47 | Nefarion | but I guess this is deprecated? so you may want to rework what you're doing. |
| 10:26.15 | Tem|AFK | Nefarion, I have _no_idea_ what you just said |
| 10:26.32 | Nefarion | i was talking to reqol |
| 10:26.34 | Tem|AFK | why would you 'call' a table vale? |
| 10:26.41 | Tem|AFK | value* |
| 10:26.49 | Nefarion | he wants to call a function from the onload handler, and pass this into the function as arg1, then access it as self |
| 10:27.02 | reqol | no, I just want to use self: :o |
| 10:27.02 | Nefarion | it's easier to just call the function, then access this from lua-side |
| 10:27.20 | Tem|AFK | it's also slower |
| 10:27.31 | Nefarion | a little yeah |
| 10:27.55 | Nefarion | reqol, why do you need an xml-side onload handler? |
| 10:28.14 | Tem|AFK | good lord |
| 10:28.20 | Tem|AFK | Read PiL |
| 10:28.44 | Tem|AFK | I suck at teaching because I don't have patience for people who don't prepare for class. |
| 10:29.11 | reqol | Nefarion: I don't, before I started xml I used lua frames to handle all onevent and onload crap, now that I deal with XML, I figure I might as well use XML handlers |
| 10:33.31 | Tem|AFK | ~pil |
| 10:33.32 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 10:33.33 | Tem|AFK | read it |
| 10:33.41 | Tem|AFK | all your questions will be answered |
| 10:35.16 | Kalroth | Tem|AFK: I got 5-9 questions about Lua, but I'm too lazy to read any book or google for it. Will you help me?! |
| 10:36.42 | Tem|AFK | Kalroth, not likely |
| 10:37.06 | Tem|AFK | refer to the "asking smart questions" faq somewhere |
| 10:37.10 | Kalroth | Not even with pictures of my nipples? |
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| 10:38.18 | Tem|AFK | hmm |
| 10:38.26 | Tem|AFK | appealing to the tits/gtfo side of me? |
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| 10:38.37 | art3mis | he said nipples |
| 10:38.41 | art3mis | not tits ;P |
| 10:39.01 | Tem|AFK | ah well then the answer is easy |
| 10:39.05 | Tem|AFK | no |
| 10:39.19 | Kalroth | Well I'm male, so I can't offer tits. Hence I was hoping nipples would be enough. |
| 10:39.32 | Tem|AFK | s/no/hell no/ |
| 10:40.25 | Kalroth | Aw :( |
| 10:40.46 | Kalroth | Had it been any other in this room, then they'd have said yes. |
| 10:43.20 | buu | I'M SAYING YES |
| 10:43.21 | buu | IN MY MIND. |
| 10:43.26 | buu | Or possibly outloud |
| 10:43.54 | Kalroth | hot |
| 10:44.24 | art3mis | man hdloader is so fun to play with |
| 10:44.45 | art3mis | i wish it was more like an actual modchip and capable of playing pal games though |
| 10:44.58 | art3mis | stupid pal discs |
| 10:45.05 | art3mis | damn euros and thier different systems |
| 10:45.19 | art3mis | go for the eyes buu! |
| 10:46.32 | Kalroth | Oi, it's the damn americans that's dumb enough to use their body parts as a measuring system |
| 10:46.45 | Kalroth | "The house is 4 hands, 8 feet and 3 cocks from here!" |
| 10:46.47 | art3mis | pal actually nothig to do with body parts ;P |
| 10:47.04 | Kalroth | Well you had to fuck with your power too |
| 10:47.21 | art3mis | yes because having 220volts was a GREAT idea |
| 10:47.43 | Kalroth | What's the downside of having 220 volts?! |
| 10:47.51 | art3mis | well its 100volts too much |
| 10:48.00 | Kalroth | 110*? :) |
| 10:48.18 | art3mis | give or take ;P i always think of wall oultlets as 120 |
| 10:48.59 | Kalroth | Yeah, seems like it |
| 10:49.03 | Kalroth | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_mains_power_plugs,_voltages_and_frequencies |
| 10:49.20 | Kalroth | See how many 220-230V countries there are! |
| 10:49.37 | art3mis | you'll notice that most of them are 3rd and old world ;P |
| 10:49.40 | Kalroth | Even Botswana got 231 volts, while the US is stuck with 120 volts. |
| 10:49.42 | art3mis | thus behind the times |
| 10:50.05 | Kalroth | I thought you americans was for more, not less |
| 10:50.12 | buu | FOOT POUND FURLONGS |
| 10:50.16 | buu | We stole it from the britws |
| 10:50.18 | buu | Don't blame us. |
| 10:50.26 | Polarina | Anyone knows how the new ChangeLog field works? :) |
| 10:50.30 | art3mis | well firstly im not american ;P |
| 10:50.31 | Kalroth | The brits upgrades ages ago though |
| 10:50.45 | Kalroth | art3mis: Canuck then?! |
| 10:50.49 | buu | It's worked fo rthe last 2,000 years, why change now? |
| 10:50.52 | art3mis | secondly im a nerd so more is less if the more is wasted ;P |
| 10:50.54 | art3mis | yup |
| 10:51.17 | Kalroth | art3mis: You're just another state in the US then! |
| 10:51.25 | Kalroth | Hell, your dollars are equal to the US now. |
| 10:51.41 | art3mis | no more so than you're just another scot ;P |
| 10:51.53 | Kalroth | Oi, it's the other way around |
| 10:51.58 | art3mis | and its more than a us dollar thank you very much ;P |
| 10:52.14 | Kalroth | I was invading Scotland when you were still a white spot on the map! |
| 10:52.28 | Kalroth | (no, not those kinds of white spots) |
| 10:52.28 | art3mis | and still getting your ass handed to you |
| 10:52.37 | art3mis | by a bunch of backwater hicks ;P |
| 10:53.02 | Kalroth | I'm Danish, not English! Hence it was me that did the owning :p |
| 10:53.12 | art3mis | ahh the danes |
| 10:53.20 | art3mis | madness and lack of sense |
| 10:53.29 | art3mis | the hallmarks of any declining nation ;P |
| 10:53.40 | buu | Goddamndanish. |
| 10:53.44 | buu | I almost choked. |
| 10:53.52 | Kalroth | buu: Sorry. |
| 10:54.07 | art3mis | exploring is grand but having everything you took when you were superior back because you couldnt adapt and advance doent say much |
| 10:54.43 | Kalroth | art3mis: Why would we advance? Other countries suck ass! I mean, just look at germany. Or Sweden. |
| 10:54.52 | art3mis | now you're othing more than an ice penninsula ;P |
| 10:54.54 | buu | Kalroth: See? |
| 10:55.12 | Kalroth | Like hell I'd want to run a country full of sauerkrauts |
| 10:55.42 | Kalroth | art3mis: That's kinda ironic, considering 50% of canadians live in igloos! |
| 10:55.54 | art3mis | closer to 10% but yeah |
| 10:56.05 | art3mis | thats the hazard of being the largest nation on the planet ;P |
| 10:56.29 | art3mis | cant have the square KMs without some ice ;P |
| 10:56.30 | Kalroth | second. :) |
| 10:56.41 | art3mis | not as long as russian is still fragmented ;P |
| 10:56.51 | art3mis | if they unite we'll give back the title ;) |
| 10:56.57 | Fin | fight! |
| 10:57.03 | Kalroth | Nuh uh, Russia still counts! |
| 10:57.06 | Kalroth | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_outlying_territories_by_total_area |
| 10:58.16 | art3mis | yeah you cant claim most of the eastern and southern blocs as russian since thier thier own seperate countries |
| 10:58.38 | Kalroth | Wikipedia is always right, there's no argument here! |
| 10:58.48 | art3mis | oh yeah |
| 10:58.52 | art3mis | fergot about that |
| 10:59.19 | Kalroth | Besides that, you speak french in Canada, so you automatically lose. |
| 10:59.29 | art3mis | only quebec speaks french |
| 10:59.47 | Kalroth | Sure, that's still one place too much. |
| 10:59.51 | art3mis | well quebec and bew brunswick |
| 10:59.55 | art3mis | new |
| 11:00.11 | Kalroth | "Canada's two official languages are English and French." |
| 11:00.24 | art3mis | really?! |
| 11:00.27 | Kalroth | "Official Bilingualism in Canada is law, defined in the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, the Official Languages Act, and Official Language Regulations; it is applied by the Commissioner of Official Languages. English and French have equal status in federal courts, Parliament, and in all federal institutions." |
| 11:00.27 | art3mis | ;) |
| 11:00.28 | Kalroth | See! |
| 11:00.35 | Kalroth | So you HAVE to speak frog! |
| 11:00.45 | art3mis | better than viking ;P |
| 11:00.57 | art3mis | at least the french give us good wine and food |
| 11:00.58 | Kalroth | Fuck no, we're the mother language. |
| 11:01.03 | Fin | trivia: South Africa has 13 official languages |
| 11:01.05 | Kalroth | Speaking of which, lunch time! |
| 11:01.10 | art3mis | the danes give us backup support for a "realuistic" macbeth ;) |
| 11:02.26 | art3mis | fin: 11 of which are a series of clicks and whistles ;P |
| 11:02.38 | art3mis | 1 is spanish and one is egyptian |
| 11:02.41 | bleeter | 2.3.3 tonight? |
| 11:02.58 | Fin | art3mis: ITYM nick clock ock flock |
| 11:03.09 | Fin | HTH |
| 11:04.24 | Fin | seriously though, I tried to learn some words in... I forget which language, but it was one of those, from the cleaners in the hostel I was staying at, and there is NO WAY I could ever get my tongue around even one word |
| 11:04.36 | Fin | it just didn't compute |
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| 11:05.11 | Fin | English, French, |
| 11:05.14 | Fin | oops |
| 11:05.15 | Fin | -that |
| 11:05.31 | Fin | OK, I was wrong, there's only 11 |
| 11:05.37 | Fin | maybe there was 13 when I was there |
| 11:05.47 | Fin | and they are: Afrikaans (Afrikaans), English, Ndebele (isiNdebele), Northern Sotho (Sesotho sa Leboa), Sotho (Sesotho), Swati (siSwati), Tsonga (Xitsonga), Tswana (Setswana), Venda (Tshivenda), Xhosa (isiXhosa), Zulu (isiZulu). |
| 11:06.41 | Fin | wow, Zulu is the most common |
| 11:06.51 | art3mis | SHAKA! |
| 11:06.51 | Fin | I bet that was the one I failed at |
| 11:08.11 | bleeter | hmm, guess not |
| 11:09.29 | MoonWolf | Afrikaans is funny. |
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| 11:13.48 | bleeter | MoonWolf: what I found funny, was when I was working in Europe and we had a South African, an Indonesian and a Nederlandse guy all trying to speak their native dialects of Nederlandse, and understand each other |
| 11:13.58 | bleeter | if we hadn't been all pissed, I'm sure it wouldn't have been as funny |
| 11:14.08 | bleeter | er s/pissed/drunk/ (.au expression) |
| 11:14.09 | MoonWolf | it should be. |
| 11:14.25 | bleeter | they could kinda 1/3 understand each other |
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| 11:50.47 | nevcairiel | mm new WoWI page is .. different |
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| 11:55.41 | Kalroth | Oh! |
| 11:55.48 | Kalroth | http://www.nationalhuggingday.com/ |
| 11:56.02 | nevcairiel | that was yesterday |
| 11:56.15 | Kalroth | I was sick there |
| 12:05.32 | fridgid | "remember, ask first!!!" |
| 12:05.34 | fridgid | lol. |
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| 14:41.22 | art3mis | wow |
| 14:41.31 | art3mis | 9:33 and the dow is down 5% already (438) |
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| 14:59.14 | malreth | Woo! Karazhan is so much fun. I don't think I'll ever get tired of it ever no matter how many times I go! |
| 14:59.59 | Polarina | malreth: Just don't come back crying. |
| 15:00.26 | Josh_Borke | malreth: glad you like it :-) |
| 15:00.36 | malreth | because i waited so long to actually start raiding, i'm actually at an advantage |
| 15:00.48 | malreth | our guild has a loot policy that mains have priority over alts |
| 15:01.07 | malreth | so even if i'm 1 out of three mages (!) i still get all the loot |
| 15:01.18 | Polarina | :P |
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| 15:02.19 | Gngsk | so what does all everyone thing about the new wowi look? |
| 15:02.20 | Lopeppeppy | We do mains before alts as well. Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's not. |
| 15:02.29 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+v Cide] by ChanServ |
| 15:02.36 | malreth | the new wowi look is different |
| 15:02.53 | Polarina | malreth: Yeah, I like it. Although a but buggy at some places. |
| 15:02.56 | malreth | still seems a bit too Web Portal-like to me |
| 15:03.30 | malreth | more addon sites should be like google.com and wowmodsearch.com. a barebones front page with a search field |
| 15:03.47 | malreth | maybe in the case of wowi, a list of recently updated mods |
| 15:04.12 | Cide | or just a search box :P |
| 15:04.32 | Cide | like google and wowhead, like you said |
| 15:04.33 | malreth | but i'm not dolby and i don't know if he's done any metrics on which links get clicked on the most on their site |
| 15:04.56 | malreth | maybe all the community stuff is what people go there for the most |
| 15:05.05 | Cide | still |
| 15:05.11 | Cide | the new site is awesome |
| 15:05.22 | malreth | once i figure out how to set the find tab to be my default page.... |
| 15:05.30 | malreth | it's better than the old site at least |
| 15:05.41 | malreth | i mostly used the search field before |
| 15:05.47 | Polarina | It would be freaking awesome of the bugs in it were fixed. But now, it's awesome! :P |
| 15:06.20 | malreth | and having to click on the search link on the bar, watch the frame open, click on the search field, type, then press enter was waaaaay too many steps to perform for such a common task |
| 15:08.21 | malreth | i think there should be a link to My User Control Panel somewhere in the Logged In box... |
| 15:09.01 | malreth | or something more obvious than knowing that you can just click on Private Messages to then access the CP |
| 15:09.09 | Polarina | But I wouldn't want to have the MD5 sum there since nowdays it is possibly to generate two unique files with the same MD5 sum without too much effort. |
| 15:10.07 | Josh_Borke | i should have stayed with dark |
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| 15:10.53 | invasion66 | hey guys i see a lot of people have very different interface then the one that i have , how come? |
| 15:11.04 | Gngsk | malreth, site options->user cp ... lemme knokw if you find the option to set default tab |
| 15:11.15 | malreth | i found it just now |
| 15:11.19 | malreth | but thanks. :) |
| 15:11.20 | Josh_Borke | invasion66: they use different mods |
| 15:11.20 | [dRaCo] | they use mods to change the UI's look, invasion66 |
| 15:11.33 | Cide | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/profile.php?do=editoptions |
| 15:11.37 | Lopeppeppy | invasion66: UI is infinitely customizable. Visit the UI/Macros forum and read the stickies for how-to and sites and pointers and all that. |
| 15:11.45 | invasion66 | like addon ? like map coordinates ? |
| 15:11.50 | Lopeppeppy | And more. |
| 15:11.52 | Polarina | invasion66: For example. |
| 15:11.58 | Gngsk | cide, how come I couldn't find that?! |
| 15:12.09 | Cide | dunno |
| 15:12.18 | Gngsk | oh, there's no default set. so the dropdown was blank |
| 15:12.28 | invasion66 | polarina what were u saying? |
| 15:13.08 | Lopeppeppy | invasion66: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.html?forumId=11114&sid=1 |
| 15:13.10 | Polarina | invasion66: Nothing in particular. |
| 15:13.30 | invasion66 | thanks +Lopeppeppy |
| 15:14.15 | art3mis | im not a big fan of the new layout |
| 15:14.26 | Lopeppeppy | I think it will grow on me, art3mis. |
| 15:14.26 | Josh_Borke | me neither art3mis |
| 15:14.32 | Josh_Borke | but i don't care enough to care |
| 15:14.38 | art3mis | yeah more or elss |
| 15:14.48 | Polarina | Anyone here knows how the new ChangeLog field does? |
| 15:14.56 | Polarina | s/how/what/ |
| 15:15.02 | art3mis | the only things that really irritate me are the huge ads on the right corner and top that always seem to be some sort of flashy binky annoying thing |
| 15:15.10 | Gngsk | right, I didn't like it at first either but after using it for a while it's not so bad |
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| 15:15.37 | art3mis | of course for the other parts of the layout i prefer seeing everything at ocne i knid of dislike having to click tabs to view things that normally i could just glance at |
| 15:15.46 | art3mis | pol bad |
| 15:15.59 | art3mis | jusing adremovers on wowi is sacrelidge |
| 15:16.03 | art3mis | err using |
| 15:16.13 | Polarina | art3mis: That feature comes with Firefox. |
| 15:16.23 | art3mis | its still an adremover |
| 15:16.27 | Polarina | And? |
| 15:16.30 | invasion66 | how come i never heard about this channel ? u guys are great |
| 15:16.33 | art3mis | and that pays for the site |
| 15:16.57 | art3mis | thus your hosting addons there isnt being covered if you refuse to at least the meager revenue attached to loading the page |
| 15:17.15 | art3mis | i just want differnt non flashy ads |
| 15:17.19 | art3mis | i cant stand em |
| 15:17.45 | Polarina | art3mis: I'm aware that the advertisements pays the fund for the site. But the ads have white background (And are often ANIMATED!!!) and it really hurts my eyes. |
| 15:17.56 | art3mis | so dont block em ;P |
| 15:18.00 | art3mis | just bitch at cairenn |
| 15:18.07 | Josh_Borke | i think cairenn lies |
| 15:18.09 | art3mis | shes rather good at getting ads that dont suck crap ;P |
| 15:18.11 | Polarina | art3mis: Like I haven't done that before... |
| 15:18.13 | Josh_Borke | i loaded wowi this morning and it looked normal |
| 15:18.18 | Josh_Borke | then i loaded it at work and it looks like this |
| 15:18.23 | art3mis | cache |
| 15:18.31 | Josh_Borke | i know :-P |
| 15:18.35 | invasion66 | arent te server closed since 2am ? |
| 15:19.00 | invasion66 | the servers closed since 2 am right? |
| 15:19.07 | malreth | hmm... just noticed that you have to click on the actual text of the tab instead of just on the tab graphic itself |
| 15:19.09 | Lopeppeppy | invasion66, some come up earlier than others. |
| 15:19.16 | Lopeppeppy | But yes, Tuesday is maintenance. |
| 15:19.24 | malreth | for example, the hit box for clicking on the Find tab is very small for me |
| 15:19.26 | art3mis | malreth: yeah the addon tabs seem to be counter productive too |
| 15:19.27 | invasion66 | really?? why is everything offline for me ??? |
| 15:19.45 | Lopeppeppy | invasion66: Because they are still offline? It's maintenance day. |
| 15:19.54 | Polarina | I can still play on them. :P |
| 15:19.55 | zenzelezz | "You'll notice that the gnomes blew up almost all of our old site graphics, but we were able to recover a charred and blackened map of Azeroth, so we are using that as our header background now." o_O |
| 15:20.15 | art3mis | i warned her ;) |
| 15:20.18 | art3mis | gnomes can't be trusted |
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| 15:20.46 | invasion66 | i dont like gnomes |
| 15:20.54 | Lopeppeppy | You guys are just horrible. |
| 15:21.11 | art3mis | Lopeppeppy: think about it you and cog are gnomes |
| 15:21.15 | art3mis | ergo you cant be trusted |
| 15:21.18 | Funkeh` | O_o |
| 15:21.18 | malreth | yeah... i very much like the look of the find page |
| 15:21.27 | Polarina | art3mis: Dolby made a backup of the old site if something screwed up, however, the gnomes blew up the backup too... |
| 15:21.27 | Funkeh` | animal abuse? |
| 15:21.28 | art3mis | how's ace3 coming? |
| 15:21.41 | Polarina | art3mis: Ace3 is in beta. |
| 15:21.45 | Funkeh` | its, still coming :D |
| 15:21.46 | art3mis | all ace is in beta |
| 15:21.59 | art3mis | i meant more along the lines of if it was getting clsoe to useable ;P |
| 15:22.03 | Funkeh` | just a few bits and bobws |
| 15:22.05 | zenzelezz | \o/ |
| 15:22.17 | Polarina | art3mis: It is usable. |
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| 15:22.37 | art3mis | how's migration coming? |
| 15:22.44 | art3mis | i guess thats more or less what i meant ;P |
| 15:22.56 | Funkeh` | Not really planned that area |
| 15:23.02 | Funkeh` | All in due time, really |
| 15:23.05 | art3mis | yup |
| 15:23.26 | art3mis | Polarina: heh backups are only useful if you do them right ;P |
| 15:23.29 | Funkeh` | I guess the exitement of a higher digit alone should do the trick |
| 15:23.37 | art3mis | haha |
| 15:23.39 | art3mis | it's 3!!! |
| 15:23.46 | Polarina | art3mis: Dolby did it right, the gnomes blew it up! |
| 15:23.59 | art3mis | Ace Trilateral! |
| 15:24.03 | Lopeppeppy | Gnomes did it right, Dolby just doesn't speak gnomish! |
| 15:24.14 | art3mis | well i suppose thats a good thing ;P |
| 15:24.18 | Polarina | Lopeppeppy: o.O |
| 15:24.20 | art3mis | he'd just go crazy |
| 15:24.28 | art3mis | i don't know how dave does it |
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| 15:41.42 | Polarina | "* Fixed: An item whose ID is the highest in the database couldn't be fetched should that ID be an even number." Is it well written? |
| 15:42.32 | malreth | no |
| 15:42.40 | zenzelezz | I'd have to agree, it's a bit confusing |
| 15:43.05 | zenzelezz | if I read it right, maybe something like "If the highest ID in the database was an even number if could not be fetched" |
| 15:43.21 | Polarina | zenzelezz: Thanks. |
| 15:43.55 | malreth | Fixed an issue where an item could not be fetched if the ID was both an even number and the highest number in the database. |
| 15:44.08 | malreth | that's even clearer |
| 15:44.25 | Polarina | malreth: Thanks. |
| 15:44.36 | malreth | but it's still in passive voice... meh |
| 15:45.27 | Polarina | That is? |
| 15:45.40 | malreth | ~wiki Passive Voice |
| 15:45.59 | malreth | as opposed to... |
| 15:46.03 | malreth | ~wiki Active Voice |
| 15:46.28 | malreth | the summary isn't enough... you'll have to click-through |
| 15:46.46 | Polarina | :) |
| 15:46.51 | malreth | it's the difference between "The boy kicked the ball." and "The ball was kicked by the boy." |
| 15:47.00 | ralfWORK | malreth: and which is preferred? |
| 15:47.02 | ralfWORK | passive? |
| 15:47.03 | malreth | the former is active, the latter is passive |
| 15:47.16 | ralfWORK | for documentation crap, I use passive |
| 15:47.24 | ralfWORK | but I may fail :P |
| 15:47.31 | malreth | active is usually better (depending) because it's more succinct. |
| 15:47.38 | Polarina | malreth: How do I make your suggestion active voice? |
| 15:47.38 | ralfWORK | ok |
| 15:47.44 | zenzelezz | matter of opinion |
| 15:47.57 | malreth | but it really does depend on context... both are really valid |
| 15:48.12 | malreth | i have a preference for active |
| 15:48.52 | Polarina | malreth: Could you help me make that active? |
| 15:49.19 | malreth | Fixed an issue when fetching the ID of an item if it was both an even number and the highest index in the database. |
| 15:49.53 | malreth | just gotta swap the verb and direct object around |
| 15:49.58 | Polarina | It was fetching the sell value, not the ID... |
| 15:50.28 | malreth | Fixed an issue when fetching the sell value of an item if the ID was both even and the highest index in the database. |
| 15:50.47 | Polarina | malreth: Thanks a lot. :) |
| 15:50.51 | malreth | Fixed an issue when fetching an item's sell value if the ID was both even and the highest index in the database. |
| 15:51.11 | malreth | brevity is the soul of wit |
| 15:51.19 | malreth | which does not apply when writing tech docs |
| 15:52.02 | Lopeppeppy | Or valentine's cards. |
| 15:52.51 | malreth | "luv u happy val day lol" |
| 15:53.05 | malreth | omg |
| 15:53.29 | malreth | i'm gonna make lolcat greeting cards |
| 15:53.30 | zenzelezz | <3 u thx |
| 15:53.39 | ralfWORK | brevity is for text messages |
| 15:53.43 | ralfWORK | malreth: I'll buy some |
| 15:54.09 | malreth | "u has a xmas card now" |
| 15:54.22 | ralfWORK | "I maed u a valentien" on the outside and "but I eated it" on the inside |
| 15:54.50 | Lopeppeppy | I maed y a valintyne... but i peed on it. |
| 15:55.15 | zenzelezz | I'm not sure that would carry the right message |
| 15:56.21 | ralfWORK | "hai! i luvs u" |
| 15:56.23 | Lopeppeppy | I rather think it would for me, zenzelezz. And I might just actually do it, for more effect. |
| 15:56.42 | zenzelezz | is the councelling not going the right way? |
| 15:56.46 | ralfWORK | "hallo, wil u b meh valentein" |
| 15:57.27 | malreth | i've got a projector to hang on the ceiling now... wish me luck and pray that i don't fall off the ladder |
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| 16:37.44 | cogwheel | dolby-wowi: My custom title isn't rendering the same way it used to... Should be <Fishing Trainer> but it shows up as <Fishing Trainer> (even after trying to change it again) |
| 16:39.17 | zenzelezz | what HTML does it use... "&lt;"? |
| 16:40.27 | Lopeppeppy | It's worse than an orc trying to speak gnomish. |
| 16:41.17 | Cide | zenzelezz: most likely |
| 16:41.47 | cogwheel | zenzelezz: aye |
| 16:42.02 | Cide | actually I don't think you can express it in any other way :P |
| 16:42.07 | zenzelezz | too aggressive 'escaping' then |
| 16:42.18 | Cide | or sensible escaping |
| 16:42.23 | Cide | depending on how you look at it |
| 16:42.24 | cogwheel | well i knew /what/ was happening... that's not the point :P |
| 16:42.31 | zenzelezz | yeah, it depends |
| 16:42.56 | Cide | pls halp, my program is stuck in an infinite loop! |
| 16:43.01 | zenzelezz | but if he input '<' and it was converted to '<', and then again to '&lt;', it's too aggressive |
| 16:43.03 | zenzelezz | in my interpretation |
| 16:43.07 | cogwheel | it looks like it's being run through the htmlifier twice or it doesn't do & as the first step |
| 16:43.27 | Cide | it has to be run twice |
| 16:43.37 | cogwheel | oh yeah... |
| 16:43.49 | Cide | or separate runs for each entity |
| 16:43.54 | cogwheel | well, maybe it's run once when it's saved and then once on display |
| 16:44.09 | Cide | yeah, that's a possibility |
| 16:44.27 | Cide | that's a pain in the butt |
| 16:44.36 | cogwheel | Cide: actually if the logic is wrong it could be converting the < to < first and then converting & to & |
| 16:44.47 | Cide | which is twice :P |
| 16:44.56 | cogwheel | well, it's not doing the whole process twice |
| 16:44.59 | Cide | it escapes stuff twice instead of in one pass |
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| 16:45.13 | Cide | yeah, I guess >1 pass is the best way to look at it |
| 16:45.38 | Cide | but really, we both know what it does so it's just semantics :P |
| 16:45.54 | zenzelezz | could be order of substitution |
| 16:46.00 | Cide | now to figure out my infinite loop! |
| 16:46.03 | cogwheel | zenzelezz: way to repeat me :P |
| 16:46.14 | zenzelezz | you've done the same with what I said also |
| 16:46.21 | Lopeppeppy | Copy cats. |
| 16:46.23 | Cide | you've done the same with what I said also |
| 16:46.31 | Lopeppeppy | It could be the substitution of the order. :P |
| 16:46.40 | zenzelezz | of course Cide, I have to steal my info somewhere |
| 16:46.41 | Cide | well played, Lopeppeppy |
| 16:46.49 | cogwheel | zenzelezz: i was differentiating substitution order from multiple executions of the whole substitution process |
| 16:46.57 | cogwheel | which no one seems to have understood :P |
| 16:47.06 | zenzelezz | cogwheel: I never concluded it was the full pass running multiple times |
| 16:48.02 | cogwheel | zenzelezz: your "too aggressive" seemed to imply so... I wouldn't classify messed up order as too aggressive ;) |
| 16:48.31 | TecnoBrat | Cairenn, dolby-wowi <3 the new site |
| 16:48.40 | Cairenn | TecnoBrat: thanks |
| 16:48.49 | zenzelezz | cogwheel: that was just poor wording, happens a lot when I get stuck on a word I'm unsure of |
| 16:52.09 | zenzelezz | seen some funny order-of-substitutions before... particularly a recursive one, where "&" became "&" and got into an infinite loop |
| 16:58.59 | Polarina | Cairenn: There are issues with the new site though. :( |
| 16:59.06 | Cairenn | I know |
| 16:59.15 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=81761#post81761 |
| 16:59.25 | Cairenn | post, so we see them and can get to them |
| 17:00.31 | Polarina | Cairenn: The issues I found aren't listed there. |
| 17:00.40 | Cairenn | ... |
| 17:00.41 | Fin | egads! NeWI! |
| 17:00.43 | zenzelezz | I believe that's why she said "post" |
| 17:00.46 | Cairenn | which is why I said "post" |
| 17:00.49 | zenzelezz | indicating you shoudl bring it up |
| 17:00.52 | Fin | that's why post |
| 17:00.55 | Fin | woo! |
| 17:00.58 | Cairenn | heh |
| 17:01.22 | Polarina | Ok. |
| 17:02.26 | Cairenn | :p |
| 17:03.39 | Lopeppeppy | Would do you no good, the Elusive Redhead Club will keep you away! |
| 17:04.01 | zenzelezz | well we have already seen pictures of her, we just want more |
| 17:05.38 | Lopeppeppy | Bah. Sharks! |
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| 17:09.39 | Fin | ITYM moar, HTH |
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| 17:17.32 | [Liquidor] | "18:12:09 [G] [22:Buffa]: Because i got JC as a profession and it's easier to go to exodar if you have Hearthstone in shattrath ok?" |
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| 17:18.16 | Josh_Borke | heh |
| 17:18.43 | ScytheBlade1 | wtb realms :/ |
| 17:19.03 | cogwheel | [Liquidor]: it boggles the mind how long it takes for ppl to understand that |
| 17:19.34 | nevcairiel | i dont really get whats so special about that sentence |
| 17:19.54 | cogwheel | took me about an hour spamming stormwind general to get a mage to port me ... they all responded with some smart ass "why the hell do you want to go there" |
| 17:20.35 | nevcairiel | "let me worry about that, i even pay you for that portal, now shush" |
| 17:21.03 | cogwheel | yeah... i was offering 2g a pop (aren't the runes like 70s?) |
| 17:21.09 | [Liquidor] | nevcairiel, "18:12:59 [G] [22:Buffa]: YES IT IS FASTER TO HS SHATTRAH AND GO EXODAR FOR JC" |
| 17:21.49 | nevcairiel | i hearthed like all alts in shatt |
| 17:21.50 | Josh_Borke | isn't it technically faster to hearthstone to exodar? |
| 17:21.56 | nevcairiel | juts to be able to travel to all major citys |
| 17:22.03 | cogwheel | ScytheBlade1: want to watch something more tedious and boring than the realm status page? ;) |
| 17:22.08 | Josh_Borke | same nev |
| 17:22.21 | ScytheBlade1 | cogwheel: depends on what I'm watching ;) |
| 17:22.22 | cogwheel | Josh_Borke: of course it is |
| 17:22.26 | cogwheel | ScytheBlade1: http://eternalblue.dnsalias.net/fah/unitinfo.txt |
| 17:22.38 | cogwheel | Josh_Borke: but then you're totally screwed if you actually want to go somewhere useful |
| 17:22.39 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 17:22.41 | ScytheBlade1 | F@H ftw |
| 17:22.44 | [Liquidor] | "18:18:37 [G] [63:Stimbe]: does my horses agility rise when i get more agility bonus?" |
| 17:22.47 | [Liquidor] | even better :P |
| 17:22.52 | Saint-N | yes |
| 17:22.53 | Josh_Borke | cogwheel: yep ;-) |
| 17:23.08 | nevcairiel | horses have agility? |
| 17:23.19 | Josh_Borke | gotta get over the fences some how |
| 17:23.49 | Lopeppeppy | No... I rather think they don't, Josh_Borke. :P |
| 17:23.51 | [Liquidor] | "18:20:49 [G] [63:Stimbe]: i have played like 2 months, silence please" |
| 17:24.02 | ScytheBlade1 | cogwheel: I used to do that... then I stopped caring :/ |
| 17:24.05 | cogwheel | aww... ScytheBlade1 you actually missed it... it just hit 38% a minute ago |
| 17:24.15 | zenzelezz | in Anarchy Online, how high you could jump was determined by your base ability values and run speed... meant that high-level players could jump to places lowbies couldn't reach \o/ |
| 17:24.17 | ScytheBlade1 | http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=userpage&teamnum=34202&username=ScytheBlade1 |
| 17:24.43 | cogwheel | ScytheBlade1: yeah... i just felt guilty having my home server sitting there idle 24 hrs a day waiting for me to ftp/ssh/svn something |
| 17:25.07 | ScytheBlade1 | cogwheel: I did too. Then I configured a LOT of power saving options, and then felt less bad about it. ;P |
| 17:25.08 | cogwheel | and seti@home is just too useless :P even if they find something, what does that really mean for "us"? |
| 17:25.16 | Lopeppeppy | My cat loves the heat and the soft whirring vibrations of my computer. |
| 17:25.22 | zenzelezz | cogwheel: extinction |
| 17:25.23 | cogwheel | ScytheBlade1: well yeah... it's actually a VERY low power computer... but still |
| 17:25.38 | cogwheel | zenzelezz: aye... all the religious whack-jobs will nuke the planet, huh? |
| 17:25.53 | ScytheBlade1 | cogwheel: hehe. I just configured my computers to actually save power and then moved my servers off of my desktop. No reason to keep them on overnight anymore. |
| 17:25.54 | zenzelezz | nah, I'm more thinking of the aliens |
| 17:26.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Date of last |
| 17:26.24 | Saint-N | cog: it means that a little alien pops up in your data graph and winks at you |
| 17:26.24 | ScytheBlade1 | work unit 2005-01-29 14:14:05 |
| 17:26.27 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm so awesome |
| 17:26.32 | Saint-N | if yer not there to see it it doesnt get caught ;P |
| 17:27.42 | cogwheel | zenzelezz: in that case, it still doesn't matter... our discovery of their existence should in no way affect their intent or ability to destroy us :P |
| 17:28.11 | zenzelezz | sure it would. They'd know we'd be trying to reach them, and I can't see why they'd want us to come there |
| 17:28.12 | Lopeppeppy | We would just die in terror instead of ignorance. |
| 17:28.20 | ScytheBlade1 | This (conversational) thread is going places. |
| 17:28.21 | ScytheBlade1 | :) |
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| 17:28.56 | cogwheel | Cide: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4032301844&sid=1 |
| 17:29.05 | Lopeppeppy | I'm not keen on dying either way, just for the record. |
| 17:29.17 | cogwheel | does CTMod even have a friends notes feature? (never looked) |
| 17:29.23 | Cide | yes |
| 17:29.32 | ralfWORK | yea it does |
| 17:29.34 | ralfWORK | and I ove it |
| 17:29.36 | Cide | pretty sure we invented it, more or less :P |
| 17:29.45 | Cide | but it's a pretty generic feature so /shrug |
| 17:30.09 | cogwheel | heh |
| 17:30.49 | Polarina | Who the hell is rating my addons as terrible? :'( |
| 17:30.58 | [Liquidor] | I |
| 17:31.03 | Cide | someone who doesn't like it? |
| 17:31.16 | Lopeppeppy | Someone says they're getting errors, without posting their error message. |
| 17:31.28 | Josh_Borke | Polarina: me :-D |
| 17:31.29 | Cide | stab a kitten? |
| 17:31.32 | Cide | it's what I do |
| 17:31.35 | [Liquidor] | That's not new Lopeppeppy :) |
| 17:31.44 | [Liquidor] | Josh_Borke, I was first. |
| 17:32.31 | Polarina | Josh_Borke: Why? |
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| 17:34.32 | Tierrie | uh |
| 17:34.33 | Tierrie | dudes |
| 17:34.34 | Tierrie | http://youtube.com/watch?v=8nfZORaYIPc |
| 17:34.38 | Polarina | [Liquidor]: Why? |
| 17:35.19 | [Liquidor] | That's a secret. |
| 17:35.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Haha, looks like they're updating the PTR servers as we speak. Conversely, no one can login to them, and the forums are flooded in crap. |
| 17:35.57 | Polarina | [Liquidor]: Honestly, I would really like to know. |
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| 17:36.46 | Tierrie | holy crap |
| 17:36.50 | Tierrie | feds cut rates by .75% |
| 17:36.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah.. |
| 17:37.00 | Tierrie | OMFG |
| 17:37.09 | Tierrie | that's really really bad |
| 17:37.13 | Tierrie | good bye wold |
| 17:37.32 | Saint-N | thts kind of a crazy amount |
| 17:37.34 | Tierrie | my monies :( its worthless |
| 17:37.46 | Tierrie | I didn't! |
| 17:37.49 | Tierrie | Good thing I spent all my money |
| 17:37.58 | Polarina | [Liquidor]: Please. I would really like to know. |
| 17:38.04 | Esamynn|Work | hell, this disaster has been in the making for years now |
| 17:38.29 | Lopeppeppy | It gets worse before it gets better, sad but true. |
| 17:38.51 | Tierrie | Ben's such a moron :P |
| 17:39.03 | Josh_Borke | i don't even know what addons you've written polarina |
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| 17:39.37 | Saint-N | esa: yeah, it was bound to happen at some point |
| 17:40.12 | Saint-N | but hey its what republicans do... make the market perform well by screwing everything up for stability so that when dems take over they're in a ressession ;P |
| 17:40.16 | Saint-N | recession |
| 17:40.36 | ralfWORK | I blame Bush |
| 17:41.49 | Polarina | ralfWORK: Shut up! |
| 17:41.55 | ralfWORK | rofl |
| 17:41.59 | ralfWORK | it's a joke |
| 17:42.30 | Esamynn|Work | is was? |
| 17:42.34 | Esamynn|Work | s/is/it/ |
| 17:42.41 | ralfWORK | yes |
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| 17:44.04 | zenzelezz | I don't see how Americans can vote for any candidate when they can't even get along with the people on their own side (Ã la Clinton/Obama) |
| 17:44.22 | Josh_Borke | zenzelezz: i agree |
| 17:46.17 | cogwheel | Saint-N: didn't it happen exactly the other way around last time |
| 17:46.20 | cogwheel | ? |
| 17:46.46 | Saint-N | cog: you'll notice the word stable in there |
| 17:46.56 | Saint-N | when clinton had control it was a mostly stable growing environment |
| 17:47.03 | Saint-N | since that time it HAS grown |
| 17:47.14 | Saint-N | but it's far from stable as the cut will attest to |
| 17:47.32 | cogwheel | well, really it was a bubble and it was in no small part due to the gov |
| 17:48.01 | Saint-N | zen: thats something ive always wondered about too, i mean if you're on the same team why in gods name would you put forth a defmation type add making your opponent(whos on the same team) look bad to the public |
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| 17:50.51 | [Liquidor] | ralfWORK, Bush is a joke |
| 17:54.09 | End | yeah, the politics in this country are stupid |
| 17:54.35 | End | politicians get elected based on -marketing- |
| 17:57.24 | dylanm | Don't forget crying. |
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| 17:59.31 | [Liquidor] | and war |
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| 18:04.00 | cogwheel | damnit malreth... |
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| 18:04.15 | cogwheel | everything I can think to say in response shouldn't be said... |
| 18:04.16 | cogwheel | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4032681549&pageNo=1&sid=1#9 |
| 18:05.01 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 18:05.49 | cogwheel | at least not by someone in green :P |
| 18:05.58 | Cide | http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/9650/uicleanfc4.jpg looks like CT_BuffMod imo |
| 18:06.20 | ralfWORK | bush sure is a joke |
| 18:06.21 | Josh_Borke | wtb option to change texture |
| 18:06.22 | ralfWORK | he's an idiot |
| 18:06.38 | ralfWORK | I'll take him over who he beat last election though :) |
| 18:06.45 | Cide | Josh_Borke: I suck at graphics though |
| 18:06.54 | Duman | god damn fucking rogues spamming the fuck out of the bug forum |
| 18:06.56 | cogwheel | ralfWORK: the fact that one can say that without it truly being a political statement saddens me greatly |
| 18:06.58 | Josh_Borke | that's why they made SharedMedia :-D |
| 18:06.59 | Duman | i wish peopel would grow up |
| 18:07.04 | Lopeppeppy | Tell us how you really feel, Duman. |
| 18:07.13 | Duman | I did :) |
| 18:07.26 | ralfWORK | cogwheel: what I said? |
| 18:07.30 | ralfWORK | how do you mean? |
| 18:07.49 | cogwheel | It's an indisputable fact that bush is an idiot... that has no bearing on his presidency :P |
| 18:07.57 | ScytheBlade1 | You know, when 2.4 comes out, I vote we all character copy and run Kara as a channel |
| 18:08.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Just so that we can get a screenshot like that :P |
| 18:08.18 | Josh_Borke | hell, we could probably run gruul or TK |
| 18:08.25 | Saint-N | cog: it does to the degree that he had very little ability to NOT go along with bad choices ;P |
| 18:08.27 | ralfWORK | cogwheel: the fact that an idiot is president makes me sad |
| 18:08.55 | ralfWORK | the fact that an idiot was better than the alternative makes me even sadder |
| 18:09.16 | cogwheel | Saint-N: i meant in the sense that saying he's an idiot does not say how you feel about the job he's doing... |
| 18:09.33 | cogwheel | some people think he's doing a fine job, but they'll have a hard time arguing that he's a few cans short |
| 18:09.36 | Saint-N | ahh |
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| 18:09.47 | Duman | hmm, did the forums eat it? |
| 18:09.51 | Saint-N | a few? |
| 18:10.00 | Saint-N | hell the vending machine didnt even give his dollar back ;P |
| 18:10.30 | ScytheBlade1 | A channel-wide Gruul's could be entertaining. |
| 18:10.40 | Lopeppeppy | I'd love to have fun. |
| 18:10.50 | ralfWORK | hey, I'd do that |
| 18:10.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Mostly because I can see half the raid in greens, and the other half of the raid in T5+ |
| 18:10.55 | Saint-N | well come down to nyc peppy ;P |
| 18:11.07 | ralfWORK | I'm actually about ready to do gruul |
| 18:11.11 | Saint-N | scythe: assuming that everyone is 70 ;P |
| 18:11.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Hehe, that too |
| 18:11.17 | ralfWORK | just killed netherspite last night btw |
| 18:11.22 | cogwheel | The forum says... Moooooooooooooooooooo |
| 18:11.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Grats, he's a fun fight |
| 18:11.29 | cogwheel | ~emulate cogwheel |
| 18:11.29 | purl | ACTION shakes her fist at the forums |
| 18:11.36 | ralfWORK | was our first attempt at him |
| 18:11.39 | cogwheel | ~botsnack |
| 18:11.39 | purl | thanks, cogwheel |
| 18:11.40 | Duman | hmm yeah, forums exploded |
| 18:11.41 | ralfWORK | downed him in 3 or 4 tries |
| 18:11.44 | ralfWORK | and wewt, win |
| 18:11.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Nice |
| 18:11.55 | cogwheel | ~literal emulate cogwheel |
| 18:11.55 | purl | "emulate cogwheel" is "(<action>shakes her fist at the forums | <reply>~lart3mis | <reply>sag_ich_nicht: l2________)" |
| 18:11.55 | ralfWORK | he's got crap for HP :P |
| 18:12.07 | Lopeppeppy | Saint-N, not while I'm still married, kthx. :) |
| 18:12.09 | Thunder_Child | her? |
| 18:12.21 | Thunder_Child | oh purl... |
| 18:12.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, it could be fun. It might also be an excercise in futility and frustration. ;) |
| 18:12.27 | Lopeppeppy | Purl is a girl! |
| 18:12.34 | Thunder_Child | purl is an it |
| 18:12.39 | Duman | heh |
| 18:12.44 | cogwheel | purl no emulate cogwheel is (<action>shakes her fist at the forums http://ctscreens.net/5307 | <reply>~lart3mis | <reply>sag_ich_nicht: l2________) |
| 18:12.45 | purl | okay, cogwheel |
| 18:12.45 | Josh_Borke | purl, what are you? |
| 18:12.46 | purl | ACTION are you to understand recursion, you must first understand recursion |
| 18:12.53 | ralfWORK | my raid is... pretty bad at coordination. I'm surprised we pulled it off |
| 18:12.56 | ScytheBlade1 | haha yes |
| 18:13.15 | Saint-N | peppy: alright i'll wait then ;P |
| 18:13.33 | Lopeppeppy | Thanks for the support in my efforts, Saint-N. *rolls eyes* |
| 18:13.50 | ralfWORK | but to be honest, I believe Netherspite is the first boss we killed the same night we had our first encounter |
| 18:14.15 | cogwheel | ScytheBlade1: woot! 40% :) |
| 18:14.50 | ScytheBlade1 | cogwheel: lol |
| 18:14.58 | ScytheBlade1 | F@H ftw? |
| 18:15.07 | Cide | ralfWORK: attumen must've been difficult |
| 18:15.17 | Saint-N | peppy: im here for ya! |
| 18:15.24 | ScytheBlade1 | lol... fond memories of my first runs at attumen... |
| 18:15.25 | ralfWORK | I'm sure that was sarcasm |
| 18:15.28 | ralfWORK | but yes, it was |
| 18:15.35 | ScytheBlade1 | We spent two hours working on him + his trash :/ |
| 18:15.46 | ralfWORK | it was really hard when we had zero gear requirements |
| 18:16.05 | ralfWORK | and half the raid was blues/epics, half was green |
| 18:16.10 | Lopeppeppy | Some gear minimums do make higher level raiding easier. |
| 18:16.21 | cogwheel | So, in case anyone in here hasn't yet made the connection, I'm batman |
| 18:16.25 | cogwheel | s/batman/slipp/ |
| 18:16.41 | ralfWORK | actually, moroes and Curator were huge issues for us |
| 18:16.49 | ralfWORK | I remember starting kara with 3 healers |
| 18:16.50 | kamdis | So, I guess I don't have a new forum hero after all. |
| 18:17.01 | Lopeppeppy | But I guessed that, Cogwheel. :) You did say you were setting up a hatemail account. |
| 18:17.01 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 18:17.02 | ralfWORK | and not havin enough healers |
| 18:17.14 | ralfWORK | now we have 1 healer and 1 off healer, pretty much :P |
| 18:17.16 | cogwheel | that being said, I was only using slipp while I waited for a new toon to appear in the selection list ;) |
| 18:17.17 | ScytheBlade1 | It was pretty easy to guess... he said it in channel... ;) |
| 18:17.32 | cogwheel | ScytheBlade1: only mentioned it once when it wasn't really busy in here :P |
| 18:17.46 | ScytheBlade1 | meh |
| 18:17.54 | ScytheBlade1 | It's still in the logs for time and all eternity! |
| 18:18.09 | ralfWORK | (resto druid is over 1700, priest is under 1500 and is mostly disc ) |
| 18:18.20 | ralfWORK | killed nightbane, prince and netherspite with them though |
| 18:18.28 | ScytheBlade1 | nice @ resto druid over 1700 |
| 18:18.31 | ScytheBlade1 | What is his regen? |
| 18:18.44 | ralfWORK | her... pretty good, let me see |
| 18:19.11 | ralfWORK | none of our healers have any of the Kara healing maces yet |
| 18:19.17 | ralfWORK | wish them shits would drop already |
| 18:19.24 | cncfanatics | can anyone help me ? I'm looking for an addon that would automail anything I craft (after enabling it ofc) to a certain person |
| 18:19.28 | kamdis | S2 healing mace > kara ones imo |
| 18:19.34 | ralfWORK | we had 1 drop months back |
| 18:19.37 | ralfWORK | when we had a pug healer |
| 18:19.43 | ralfWORK | and they won the maiden mace |
| 18:19.44 | ScytheBlade1 | ... ouch |
| 18:19.48 | ralfWORK | haven't seen one since :( |
| 18:20.13 | ScytheBlade1 | I run my healer next to a resto shaman and a priest. The shaman never saw the mace drop in a good four months |
| 18:20.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Then it drops three weeks in a row |
| 18:20.18 | ralfWORK | it almost hurt me to let them win that mace, as a raid leader |
| 18:20.29 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 18:20.35 | ralfWORK | we've killed prince 3x |
| 18:20.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, but don't mention prince |
| 18:20.47 | ralfWORK | and EVERY time it's been the rogue/pally/whatever |
| 18:20.56 | ScytheBlade1 | My mage has been killing him for well over 6 months, no freaking dagger :P |
| 18:21.01 | ralfWORK | so the prot pally, the 2nd rogue and the 3rd rogue have wone it |
| 18:21.09 | Duman | heh |
| 18:21.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Gruul? Over 5 months, and no sword! |
| 18:21.14 | ralfWORK | the 1st rogue hasn't won it yet |
| 18:21.32 | ralfWORK | makes me wish we don't basically /roll |
| 18:21.49 | ralfWORK | but I'll be damned if I do DKP on kara, or a loot council |
| 18:21.56 | cogwheel | ~seen kirov |
| 18:22.00 | purl | kirov <n=Kirov@c-71-198-140-70.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 87d 16m 29s ago, saying: 'Anyone know if the downloaded version of BC is any more up to date than the original store bought version?'. |
| 18:22.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Rolls ftw |
| 18:22.06 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 18:22.11 | Lopeppeppy | Totally do not do DKP for Kara or ZA. Ugh. |
| 18:22.17 | ScytheBlade1 | I remember him asking that question |
| 18:22.19 | ralfWORK | yea, I know Lopeppeppy |
| 18:22.38 | Lopeppeppy | We did, and it's borked our economy something fierce. |
| 18:22.40 | ralfWORK | but at the same time, it leads to some interesting loot distribution |
| 18:22.45 | Lopeppeppy | We'll be fresh-starting with Black Temple. |
| 18:22.50 | Duman | we just do "who needs this?" :-) |
| 18:23.00 | ralfWORK | we do 1 up per raid evening |
| 18:23.08 | Lopeppeppy | We should have, we totally should have. |
| 18:23.13 | Duman | but we all know each other for the most part... or have at least been playing the game together for the last 3 years |
| 18:23.16 | Lopeppeppy | We do the "one per, unless no one else wants it" rule. |
| 18:23.17 | ralfWORK | if no one needs it, a secondary roll is permited for off-spec gear |
| 18:23.30 | ralfWORK | i.e. shadowpriest rolling on healy gear |
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| 18:24.11 | ralfWORK | but we don't make recruits wait on gear either |
| 18:24.17 | ralfWORK | which maybe we should, but w/e |
| 18:24.28 | Lunessa | ... station |
| 18:24.35 | ralfWORK | you're there, you killed the boss, you get a spot at the loot |
| 18:24.35 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Lunessa. |
| 18:24.56 | ralfWORK | s/spot/shot/ |
| 18:25.05 | Lunessa | lewt! |
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| 18:25.35 | ralfWORK | we're about to start the infamous 2nd kara group. I'm not looking forward to it :( |
| 18:26.20 | Lunessa | Actually, my guild just started with a second group. And it's working well for us. We're not able to come up with a a third group though, not enough tanks/healers. |
| 18:26.53 | Lopeppeppy | It's hard, ralfWORK, but not impossible. Try to avoid "competition" unless it's friendly, and maybe consider rotating people in and out through teams so that things stay level. |
| 18:26.53 | ralfWORK | resto druid, raid buffed, has 1884 heal, 180/377 regen, to whoever was asking |
| 18:27.18 | ralfWORK | ya |
| 18:27.28 | ralfWORK | thinking about starting with sharing 1 raid id actually |
| 18:27.34 | ralfWORK | until we can safely man 2 full groups |
| 18:28.11 | Lopeppeppy | The big problems we had was that Group 1 would NOT run with group 2, or share advice, or anything else. They were all competitive "we're the best", and it really brought out some bad group karma for a while. |
| 18:28.29 | ralfWORK | I know someone else who does 1 raid id for the guild, and it works for them |
| 18:28.31 | Saint-N | thats because group 1 IS ebtter than group 2 ;P |
| 18:28.34 | Lunessa | That can work too, but you invariably have someone who wants to go more than one night and that means you bump someone else who should get a chance to go. |
| 18:28.43 | ralfWORK | yea |
| 18:28.56 | ralfWORK | we are casual, obviously, and that makes it even more complicated |
| 18:29.08 | ralfWORK | asking for signups is lol |
| 18:29.18 | ralfWORK | so I send invites at raid time, whoever is on is in |
| 18:29.30 | ralfWORK | so far I've only had to bench 1 person |
| 18:29.42 | ralfWORK | but if we start building a 2nd group, I'm sure I'll have to bench more |
| 18:30.01 | Lunessa | Yes, what's working well for my casual guild on an RP server is static rosters and consistent scheduling. |
| 18:30.12 | Lopeppeppy | I second that, Lunessa. |
| 18:30.17 | ralfWORK | I wish we did have a static roster |
| 18:30.29 | ralfWORK | we'd probably be done with kara 2 months ago if we had that :P |
| 18:30.41 | Lunessa | They key is consistent scheduling. Everyone knows it's X time on Y day every week. |
| 18:30.53 | Lunessa | They start planing around it. |
| 18:30.57 | ralfWORK | yea, we have that |
| 18:31.00 | ralfWORK | they plan for it |
| 18:31.04 | ralfWORK | they just don't sign up |
| 18:31.32 | ralfWORK | I'm much more serious about it than they are, mostly |
| 18:31.43 | Lunessa | My raid team knows that Sat and Sun is Kara, and they know they've got a spot. We sub in an alternate for anyone who is more than 10 mins late. |
| 18:31.55 | ralfWORK | heh |
| 18:32.00 | ralfWORK | I sub in alternates at raid time |
| 18:32.04 | ralfWORK | on the dot |
| 18:32.06 | Lunessa | And I push the pace. |
| 18:32.37 | Lopeppeppy | We do our subs 10 minutes before the raid starts, and our tank really pushes us forward, even when he's on his mage and not his warrior. :) |
| 18:32.37 | Lunessa | Once we start I keep it moving as fast as we can handle - as little down time and waiting as is humanly possible. |
| 18:32.44 | Lunessa | It makes things much more fun. |
| 18:33.00 | ralfWORK | yes, I'm being encourage to do that |
| 18:33.04 | ralfWORK | but uhm... lol |
| 18:33.07 | ralfWORK | we have some pretty bad players |
| 18:33.11 | ralfWORK | one being the tank |
| 18:33.13 | Lopeppeppy | For gods sake, always include a potty break though! |
| 18:33.25 | ralfWORK | yea, our raids are 3 hours. I do one in the middle |
| 18:33.43 | Lunessa | Ours are 4 hours. |
| 18:33.59 | Lunessa | We break after a boss so people can pee/get a drink etc. |
| 18:34.00 | ralfWORK | I try to make strat discussion as quick as possible, esp. on old content |
| 18:34.06 | Shirik | Polarina what are you on about |
| 18:34.10 | Lopeppeppy | We do Kara 7 - midnight. Ish. |
| 18:34.15 | Shirik | Different parts of the world use different formats for time |
| 18:34.16 | ralfWORK | 7:30-10:30 |
| 18:34.22 | ralfWORK | I wish we had more time |
| 18:34.26 | ralfWORK | 3 hours is barely enough |
| 18:34.31 | ralfWORK | when you got slackers |
| 18:35.01 | ralfWORK | the "get there on time" stick is only so big when they know there is no replacement |
| 18:35.09 | Lunessa | And strat discussion for content we've done before is a 1 min reminder - for a new boss, I go over it for 2 mins and then we /do/ it so people can see/understand what I was talking about. |
| 18:35.36 | ralfWORK | interesting |
| 18:35.45 | Lunessa | 3 hours will get you Attumen, Moroes and either Opera/Maiden if you're going slow. |
| 18:35.50 | ralfWORK | do you have people in your raid who constantly say "I don't understand" |
| 18:35.52 | Lopeppeppy | We try to use the class channels to give strats to new people during trash, we've done it long enough that there are too few new people to waste all the raid time. |
| 18:36.06 | kamdis | strat discussion? wtf is that? (there's a reason my guild is called Improvise, hehe) |
| 18:36.10 | Lunessa | No. People who see it a time or two will get it. |
| 18:36.10 | ralfWORK | yes, day 1 we do Moroes, Opera, Curator and can do it in 3 hours |
| 18:36.32 | Lunessa | kamdis: I want to have my philosophy be "fuck it, just pull." |
| 18:36.33 | ralfWORK | usually we have 30m left over |
| 18:36.45 | ralfWORK | so we might do maiden or attumen at the end |
| 18:36.51 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa.... er, let me reconsider that server swap! :) |
| 18:37.07 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: Come to the Dark Side... |
| 18:37.12 | ralfWORK | took me 10 minutes last night to explain to the tank to jump in and out of the red beam |
| 18:37.18 | Polarina | Shirik: ? |
| 18:37.34 | Shirik | Your comment about dates being like "2008-01-22" |
| 18:37.45 | Polarina | Shirik: It's a ISO standard. |
| 18:37.56 | Shirik | Programmers follow ISO standards |
| 18:38.00 | Shirik | humans follow country standards |
| 18:38.04 | Lunessa | ralf - I'm willing to teach. But if someone won't learn, they don't get invited back. |
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| 18:38.08 | ralfWORK | humans shouldn't be on the interweb |
| 18:38.14 | kd3 | ya, I actually got laughed at when I signed in to vote using the iso-standard date |
| 18:38.15 | Duman | yeah I always do YYYY MM DD |
| 18:38.21 | Duman | plus, it sorts better that way |
| 18:38.23 | ralfWORK | Lunessa: what class do you run? |
| 18:38.28 | Polarina | Shirik: I want to be at least able to configure the format... |
| 18:38.36 | Lunessa | I'm playing a Priest. |
| 18:38.40 | Shirik | That's a valid argument |
| 18:38.41 | ralfWORK | holy or shadow? |
| 18:38.43 | Lunessa | And I'm the guild leader |
| 18:38.48 | ralfWORK | and you run the raids? |
| 18:38.48 | Lunessa | And I'm deep holy. |
| 18:38.49 | Shirik | However saying that "mm-dd-yyyy" is wrong is... well... wrong. |
| 18:39.06 | Polarina | Shirik: It's confusing. |
| 18:39.09 | Lunessa | I run my set team |
| 18:39.12 | ralfWORK | interesting |
| 18:39.24 | ralfWORK | I fail at leading raids while holy |
| 18:39.34 | Shirik | Then ask for the option |
| 18:39.36 | ralfWORK | I'm gl as well |
| 18:39.38 | Lunessa | And I set guild policy/direction with a core of officers where I am "first amoung equals." |
| 18:39.44 | Shirik | not for the rest of the non-programming world to conform to ISO standards |
| 18:39.49 | Shirik | Hell the US can't even get on the metric system |
| 18:40.02 | Lunessa | Haha.. true Shirik ! |
| 18:40.48 | kamdis | Am I correct in my understanding that "equipped:" only takes item types and not specific item names? |
| 18:40.56 | Shirik | correct |
| 18:40.56 | kd3 | oh wow. press release... wow's at 10m now |
| 18:40.58 | kd3 | kamdis; yup |
| 18:41.03 | kamdis | thank you |
| 18:41.08 | Shirik | 10m? |
| 18:41.10 | |Jelly| | Ahh yes. Staying up until the servers die and for all intents and purposes, sleeping through the server down time. |
| 18:41.12 | Lunessa | Depending on who I work with I'll use either date format dd-mm-yyyy or mm-dd-yyyy - because I want to make it easier for those who will use my documents. |
| 18:41.17 | Shirik | That's kinda insane |
| 18:41.25 | kd3 | http://www.blizzard.co.uk/press/080122.shtml |
| 18:41.32 | Polarina | Lunessa: Both are confusing to me. |
| 18:41.46 | Shirik | Lunessa: Would you believe I write my dates in a different form? |
| 18:41.53 | Josh_Borke | wow, 0.1% of the world's population plays wow! |
| 18:41.56 | Shirik | oh wait, no, you said dd-mm-yyyy |
| 18:42.03 | Esamynn|Work | ralfWORK: n00b, it's called the inter-tubes! :P |
| 18:42.06 | Shirik | I do 01-Jan-2008 |
| 18:42.11 | Shirik | That way everyone can understand |
| 18:42.12 | nevcairiel | if we ever get to 1%, i will be scared |
| 18:42.13 | Esamynn|Work | damnit, nm |
| 18:42.14 | ralfWORK | Esamynn|Work: :) |
| 18:42.17 | Esamynn|Work | I was scrolled back |
| 18:42.21 | kamdis | Shirik: that's what I do also |
| 18:42.23 | Josh_Borke | nevcairiel: me too |
| 18:42.25 | Esamynn|Work | ~lart me |
| 18:42.25 | purl | blasts esamynn|work with a huge firehose then strangles esamynn|work with it |
| 18:42.27 | ralfWORK | we have 0.1% of the worlds idiots too |
| 18:42.28 | Lunessa | I'll do that for documents where any ambiguity is problematic. |
| 18:42.37 | nevcairiel | nah, must be more |
| 18:42.40 | batrick | http://www.stsc.hill.af.mil/CrossTalk/2008/01/0801DewarSchonberg.html |
| 18:43.28 | Shirik | batrick, just reading the opening PARAGRAPH I already love this article |
| 18:43.30 | Shirik | it's so true |
| 18:44.09 | Shirik | "Students found it hard to write programs that did not have a graphic interface, had no feeling for the relationship between the source program and what the hardware would actually do, and (most damaging) did not understand the semantics of pointers at all, which made the use of C in systems programming very challenging." |
| 18:44.15 | Shirik | Wasn't I talking about this last night? :P |
| 18:44.21 | Lunessa | Point one is true. |
| 18:44.42 | ralfWORK | Lunessa: so 2m even on new stuff eh? do your people read about encounters beforehand? |
| 18:44.52 | Shirik | You know what, I'm going to show this to my boss :P |
| 18:45.01 | ralfWORK | Shirik: most people are idiots |
| 18:45.03 | Shirik | I've been trying to get him to convert one of the courses to C forever |
| 18:45.56 | ralfWORK | they find it hard to write programs without GUIs because they don't use OSes that don't have GUIs |
| 18:46.01 | Lunessa | My first programming language was basic. Followed by C and C++ |
| 18:46.02 | ralfWORK | thanks microsoft |
| 18:46.08 | Shirik | They do bring a valid point to teach Java: Teaching concurrent programming with Java is so easy |
| 18:46.17 | zenzelezz | I went VB -> C++, and stayed. |
| 18:46.17 | Shirik | and it provides a great base to learn it |
| 18:46.19 | Duman | sigh |
| 18:46.26 | Duman | where's a CM when you need one |
| 18:47.28 | Shirik | Lunessa: I went BASIC->C++ too :D |
| 18:47.39 | Duman | BASIC -> Pascal -> C |
| 18:47.44 | Shirik | And that's not like BASIC is some pointer to a struct that has a value C that I incremented |
| 18:47.52 | Lunessa | Well, in '80 all I could get for public consumption was BASIC |
| 18:48.11 | Duman | I learned BASIC by reading ENTER magazine :-P |
| 18:48.13 | Esamynn|Work | and then Java |
| 18:48.23 | Shirik | I learned BASIC by reading some mystery book |
| 18:48.26 | Lunessa | mmmm... C64 and the TRS-80 |
| 18:48.31 | Shirik | in 3rd grade |
| 18:48.43 | Shirik | And you know what, I often wonder what would have happened if I never checked out that book :P |
| 18:48.53 | malreth | I was BASIC -> Pascal -> C/C++ -> Java -> quickly back to C/C++ |
| 18:49.26 | Shirik | I REALLY need to learn Ada. |
| 18:49.31 | Esamynn|Work | why? |
| 18:49.50 | Shirik | It's used heavily in the fields I'm trying to go into. Only 3 languages are authorized, C, C++, and Ada |
| 18:49.51 | batrick | "It [Texas A&M] did [teach Java as the first language]. Then I started teaching C++ to the electrical engineers and when the EE students started to out-program the CS students, the CS department switched to C++." |
| 18:49.55 | batrick | hahahhahahaha |
| 18:50.14 | Esamynn|Work | Shirik: ahh, well, here's some warning, Ada = VERY VERY VERY VERBOSE! |
| 18:50.24 | Shirik | Ada is also extremely strict, I hear |
| 18:50.32 | Esamynn|Work | in some things |
| 18:50.34 | Shirik | And that's why the FAA loves it. |
| 18:50.36 | Esamynn|Work | some things are optional |
| 18:50.45 | Esamynn|Work | like naming the args you pass to a function |
| 18:51.03 | malreth | well, Ada is named after a woman so it's understandable that it would be both verbose and strict. |
| 18:51.04 | Esamynn|Work | or rather, matching the args to the function's parameter names |
| 18:51.08 | malreth | CONTROVERSIAL STATEMENT! |
| 18:51.14 | Esamynn|Work | ~lart malreth |
| 18:51.14 | purl | cats /dev/urandom into malreth's ear |
| 18:51.19 | Shirik | Supposedly it's a great concurrent language |
| 18:51.27 | Esamynn|Work | just for the record, I larted you for the shouting :P |
| 18:51.27 | Shirik | haha I did something like that one |
| 18:51.40 | Shirik | cat /dev/hda1 /dev/audio |
| 18:51.43 | Shirik | that was fun |
| 18:51.51 | Shirik | cat /dev/hda1 > /dev/audio |
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| 18:52.06 | kd3 | whee for a free white noise generator |
| 18:52.16 | Cairenn | hi hi, again :) |
| 18:52.36 | Esamynn|Work | Shirik: I will say this, it's really quite easy to read, even if you know nothing about it, some things need defining, but it does make code maintenence much easier |
| 18:52.55 | Shirik | I've seen the code, it looks pretty simple, I just wouldn't know how to write it. |
| 18:53.04 | zenzelezz | <malreth> well, Ada is named after a woman so it's understandable that it would be both verbose and strict. <-- and hard to make it do what you want it to |
| 18:53.07 | kamdis | okay how do i turn off that auto-away crap? |
| 18:53.18 | Lopeppeppy | zenzelezz... impossible. |
| 18:53.19 | Shirik | hm |
| 18:53.22 | |Jelly| | Stop being away imo. |
| 18:53.23 | Shirik | you don't :P |
| 18:53.29 | kamdis | damn |
| 18:54.03 | kd3 | oh wow at the bug report forum |
| 18:54.04 | Shirik | Actually |
| 18:54.08 | Shirik | kamdis |
| 18:54.10 | kd3 | all of the rogues are in a concerted effort to bitch about vanish |
| 18:54.24 | Shirik | There is an addon I am aware of that prevents you from logging out |
| 18:54.30 | Shirik | but you still go /afk I believe |
| 18:56.07 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, ya |
| 18:56.12 | Thunder_Child | but not in a major city |
| 18:56.18 | Thunder_Child | e.g. no sleep area |
| 18:58.21 | Lunessa | kamdis: Are you using a calendaring AddOn (not Group Calendar, but the other popular one who's name escapes me)? |
| 18:58.29 | ralfWORK | GEM |
| 18:58.34 | ralfWORK | they all suck :P |
| 18:58.55 | Lunessa | GEM - yes, that one. |
| 18:59.10 | ralfWORK | I like group calendar better than gem, but they both generally suck |
| 18:59.19 | Duman | kd3 missed my bitching earlier |
| 18:59.26 | Duman | WTB cleanup, Bug Forum |
| 18:59.46 | kamdis | Lunessa, no |
| 18:59.51 | Lunessa | GC is a very handy tool for a single guild, but use it across a shared channel and it's not so happy. |
| 18:59.51 | kamdis | Group Calendar |
| 18:59.58 | ralfWORK | big problem is |
| 19:00.15 | ralfWORK | as you'd imagine, signups only work if the person who created the event is online |
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| 19:00.19 | ralfWORK | doesn't even work on my alt |
| 19:00.21 | ralfWORK | which is irritating |
| 19:00.23 | kamdis | I refuse to use it though |
| 19:01.11 | |Jelly| | kd3: Downloading 2.3.3 :) |
| 19:01.26 | kd3 | whee |
| 19:01.50 | Duman | 2.3.3.7799 woot |
| 19:02.45 | Shirik | ERROR #132 CRITICAL ERROR |
| 19:02.46 | Shirik | whooooooo |
| 19:02.52 | Duman | hah |
| 19:02.55 | Duman | really? |
| 19:02.59 | Shirik | affirmative |
| 19:03.07 | Duman | details? |
| 19:03.22 | Shirik | I changed my sound volume because I couldn't hear crap |
| 19:03.25 | Shirik | and then it crashed |
| 19:03.37 | zenzelezz | "You want sound? YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE SOUND" |
| 19:03.37 | Duman | nice |
| 19:03.55 | Shirik | and actually |
| 19:04.03 | Shirik | I can hear stuff now, but according to my UI, my sound volume was never changed |
| 19:04.59 | kd3 | whee for random good news about humanity |
| 19:05.04 | kd3 | "Japanese to launch paper plane from ISS" |
| 19:05.09 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 19:05.36 | Duman | heh |
| 19:07.04 | malreth | hey... there's real science behind that paper plane |
| 19:07.26 | ralfWORK | from ISS? |
| 19:07.38 | zenzelezz | I fear it will burn upon reentry into the atmosphere |
| 19:08.02 | malreth | zenzelezz: it's designed to not burn up |
| 19:08.06 | Thunder_Child | International Space Station |
| 19:08.13 | ralfWORK | rofl |
| 19:08.20 | zenzelezz | malreth: ah, brilliant! |
| 19:08.20 | malreth | zenzelezz: but that's what they're trying to test |
| 19:08.23 | ralfWORK | it's made of ricepaper, duh |
| 19:08.32 | kd3 | ya, but still. I'm looking for good news today considering how bad my stocks are tanking |
| 19:08.55 | malreth | kd3: that's why i never look at my investments |
| 19:08.59 | Shirik | holy crap |
| 19:09.02 | Shirik | they upgraded the lua engine |
| 19:09.08 | zenzelezz | in WoW? |
| 19:09.08 | malreth | Shirik: ?! |
| 19:09.14 | nevcairiel | Shirik: to what? |
| 19:09.15 | kd3 | !! |
| 19:09.16 | ralfWORK | so ToC files change? |
| 19:09.17 | Shirik | well, at least /dump -nil doesn't crash anymore |
| 19:09.21 | zenzelezz | to which version? |
| 19:09.31 | malreth | They upgraded it to have an orange scent. |
| 19:09.31 | zenzelezz | ralfWORK: no, that's UI version |
| 19:09.42 | ralfWORK | zenzelezz: erm ok |
| 19:09.44 | Shirik | [string "return -nil"]:1: attempt to perform arithmetic on a nil value |
| 19:09.49 | Shirik | instead of horrible crash and burn |
| 19:09.51 | Thunder_Child | thats why i never invest! |
| 19:10.37 | Esamynn|Work | Shirik: lol |
| 19:10.53 | Shirik | oopsie |
| 19:10.53 | zenzelezz | while it is sad to lose your life savings, I can't feel pity for people who put it into stock/funds and expect it to be perfectly safe |
| 19:11.11 | Shirik | The exception unknown software exception (0xc00000fd) occurred in the application at location 0x0072260f |
| 19:11.19 | Shirik | They didn't fix the coroutine bug yet :D |
| 19:11.30 | nevcairiel | heh |
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| 19:13.01 | Polarina | Shirik: Hardcode that "crashing" into one of your addons like the one who made that Horde-only addon. |
| 19:13.11 | Shirik | I considered it once |
| 19:13.14 | Polarina | :P |
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| 19:20.08 | Duman | jesus christ the bug forum is a mess |
| 19:20.16 | Duman | oh well, time for lunch or something, anyway |
| 19:24.59 | kamdis | i love when people tell me that using a /tar focus + /targetlasttarget macro is better than a [target=focus] macro. |
| 19:25.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Something tells me that they broke vanish |
| 19:25.34 | Lopeppeppy | Vanish has had some issues for quite a long time, ScytheBlade1. Every new PTR it gets an explosion. |
| 19:25.50 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.html?forumId=10023&sid=1 |
| 19:25.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Like that? |
| 19:26.38 | Lopeppeppy | Mostly, but perhaps this one is more severe than the last one. |
| 19:26.56 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 19:27.07 | ralfWORK | quite a list of people bitching about vanish! |
| 19:27.25 | Lopeppeppy | It's a legitimate issue of chronic standing. *shrug* |
| 19:27.26 | Esamynn|Work | jeez, WoW has hit 10 million players |
| 19:27.29 | cogwheel | when did they make combo points stay on a mob even when you switch targets? :O |
| 19:27.43 | ralfWORK | cogwheel: I hear a nerf coming |
| 19:28.00 | malreth | cogwheel: ruh-roh! |
| 19:28.12 | cogwheel | ralfWORK: only if it's a bug... |
| 19:28.15 | nevcairiel | cogwheel: long time ago, they stay unless you create a cp on the new target |
| 19:28.18 | cogwheel | it may very well be intentional |
| 19:28.23 | cogwheel | nevcairiel: thanks |
| 19:28.29 | kd3 | whee, cableco's finally here |
| 19:28.29 | ralfWORK | nevcairiel: cp? |
| 19:28.34 | cogwheel | combo point |
| 19:28.34 | nevcairiel | combo point :P |
| 19:28.36 | cogwheel | duh |
| 19:28.37 | Lopeppeppy | Once you hit a new target with CP, the ones on the old go away. |
| 19:28.38 | cogwheel | :P |
| 19:28.38 | ralfWORK | oh |
| 19:28.46 | ralfWORK | sorry, I don't play a rogue |
| 19:28.53 | ralfWORK | I'm just married to one :P |
| 19:29.46 | Rayne | im freaking tired |
| 19:29.49 | cogwheel | it used to be that as soon as you lost your target, its CP would drop. That was actually the only pressing reason that [target=focus] was "better" (in effectiveness, not necessarily efficiency) |
| 19:29.57 | Rayne | someone wrap up BBC10 so I can go back to bed pelase. |
| 19:30.10 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy: I believe it's "gain a CP" |
| 19:30.12 | Shirik | not "hit" |
| 19:30.26 | Lopeppeppy | Gain, hit... tomato/tomahto. |
| 19:30.36 | Shirik | You can hit without gaining a CP :P |
| 19:30.43 | cogwheel | Shirik: lern2plainenglish imo |
| 19:30.45 | Shirik | In fact, if you didn't, that would be kinda OP |
| 19:30.55 | Shirik | OOH |
| 19:31.00 | cogwheel | "hit a new target with CP" made perfect sense to me :P |
| 19:31.01 | Shirik | reading the whole sentence helps |
| 19:31.05 | Shirik | k |
| 19:31.56 | Rayne | kamdis: *puppydogeyes* |
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| 19:34.23 | Lunessa | ok folks... have to drive to the office for a meeting. back in like 2 hours. |
| 19:34.30 | Shirik | have fun! |
| 19:34.35 | cogwheel | you have my condolence |
| 19:34.35 | Shirik | I always had fun in meetings |
| 19:34.36 | cogwheel | s |
| 19:34.48 | Lunessa | Feel free to talk about me while I'm gone. *wink* |
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| 19:36.29 | Esamynn|Work | KarlThePagan: BEGONE, you Pagan FIEND! |
| 19:41.25 | KarlThePagan | RAR |
| 19:41.32 | zenzelezz | ZIP |
| 19:41.36 | KarlThePagan | TAR |
| 19:41.38 | kamdis | Rayne: huh wut? |
| 19:41.43 | kamdis | I've been distracted |
| 19:41.44 | KarlThePagan | BZ2 |
| 19:41.58 | Thunder_Child | 7zp |
| 19:42.14 | KarlThePagan | compress |
| 19:42.17 | zenzelezz | UHA |
| 19:42.35 | malreth | ARC |
| 19:42.48 | KarlThePagan | DMG |
| 19:44.26 | KarlThePagan | still no free transfers to kick the noobs off kil'jaeden |
| 19:45.08 | Saint-N | karl |
| 19:45.21 | Saint-N | you obviously need to just purchase 1000 more accounts and log them all in ;P |
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| 19:45.42 | KarlThePagan | haha |
| 19:45.42 | Esamynn|Work | GZ |
| 19:45.58 | Shirik | Does anyone know the calculations for skinning level requirements based on mob level? |
| 19:46.34 | zenzelezz | isn't it 5*level or something? |
| 19:46.43 | Cide | think so |
| 19:46.44 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 19:46.48 | Shirik | it's definitely not 50 at lv 10 |
| 19:46.50 | nevcairiel | below skinning 100 its different |
| 19:47.03 | haste | http://www.wowwiki.com/Skinning#Skinning_Color_Codes |
| 19:47.18 | Shirik | oh |
| 19:47.21 | Shirik | I was there, it was just hidden |
| 19:47.25 | Esamynn|Work | lol |
| 19:47.29 | Shirik | FORMULAS ARE NOT A COLOR CODE |
| 19:47.36 | haste | :-P |
| 19:47.37 | Esamynn|Work | haste: heh, I was just about to paste that exact link ;) |
| 19:47.40 | zenzelezz | "Up to skinning 100, you can find out the highest level mob you can skin by: ((Skinning skill)/10)+10." |
| 19:47.48 | malreth | holy crap... my stocks are tanking... damn it i knew i shouldn't have checked |
| 19:48.10 | Shirik | so I need to grind to about lvl 150 to get myself up to speed |
| 19:48.11 | Shirik | damn it |
| 19:48.12 | Shirik | ok |
| 19:48.14 | Shirik | thanks |
| 19:48.15 | kamdis | they all are; the international markets took a dive last night so we're fucked |
| 19:48.51 | malreth | it's a good thing i just saved a lot of money on car insurance by switching to Geico |
| 19:48.53 | KarlThePagan | i should invest |
| 19:49.02 | kamdis | malreth: rofl |
| 19:49.10 | zenzelezz | Shirik: that low skill is easy to level anyway |
| 19:49.19 | Shirik | but I have to do it :P |
| 19:49.34 | nevcairiel | at skill 100 or so start to farm raptors in wetlands .. ^^ |
| 19:49.59 | malreth | oh... my funds are doing ok tho... one of them is even up by a hundredth of a point. i guess that counts for something |
| 19:52.08 | kamdis | Rayne: go back to sleep, releasing a UI is not more important than sleeping in |
| 19:52.49 | kamdis | cogwheel: grr velen's on that list |
| 19:52.49 | Thunder_Child | kamdis, LIES!!! |
| 19:53.13 | kamdis | hey hey hey, if I could actually sleep in, a UI release would NOT get in my way |
| 19:54.16 | Shirik | lol, leveling this is so easy since I can kill everything in two hits |
| 19:54.36 | ralfWORK | AOE leveling on my warrior > * |
| 19:55.00 | Rayne | Its not getting in my way |
| 19:55.07 | Rayne | the damn wind outside howling at 60mph is |
| 19:58.33 | malreth | kamdis|afk: that patriarch guy is determined to keep rewriting your macros in the worst, most inefficient way possible |
| 20:02.40 | ralfWORK | I need to find mithril to farm |
| 20:02.47 | ralfWORK | just hit 225 mining |
| 20:03.03 | ralfWORK | so need moar mith and probably some other crap |
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| 20:09.35 | kd3 | whee, new ISP |
| 20:10.39 | Thunder_Child | now i know why the loading seems to have increased, they moved functions to loging out. now that takes longer. |
| 20:11.06 | Josh_Borke | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:11.35 | Esamynn|Work | like what? |
| 20:11.48 | Thunder_Child | i dunno, but i know it takes longer now |
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| 20:16.50 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge is #wowi-lounge: Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.3.x ToC: 20300 | Im in ur bitez overflowin ur stax - Bleeter |
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| 20:24.54 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge is #wowi-lounge: Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.3.x ToC: 20300 | Im in ur bitez overflowin ur stax - Bleeter |
| 20:25.20 | Esamynn|Work | ~botsnack |
| 20:25.20 | purl | :), Esamynn|Work |
| 20:28.50 | Esamynn|Work | "At New York University, a course in numerical methods and floating-point computing used to be required, but this requirement was dropped many years ago, and now very few students take this course." the fact that institutions have actually dropped such requirements is really very scary |
| 20:31.44 | KarlThePagan | numerical computing is something I would keep, but perhaps not compilers |
| 20:32.01 | MentalPower | batrick: what was the script kiddie doing? |
| 20:32.34 | KarlThePagan | perhaps that's just my preference tho |
| 20:32.57 | batrick | MentalPower: he was trying to "kill" bots with his "super bot" |
| 20:33.08 | MentalPower | meaning? |
| 20:33.25 | Thunder_Child | wtb 7 levels |
| 20:33.29 | batrick | i thought i was pretty clear? |
| 20:33.59 | batrick | :32 ::: signoff/#wowi-lounge purl (Excess Flood) |
| 20:34.01 | batrick | that type of shit |
| 20:34.15 | MentalPower | right, but how was he making purl flood itself out? |
| 20:34.23 | batrick | malformed packets i guess |
| 20:34.34 | MentalPower | and how did you defeat it? |
| 20:34.41 | batrick | he has a lua interpretter :) |
| 20:34.51 | batrick | s/lua/unpatched lua/ |
| 20:35.24 | osmodiar | a bot without flood protection is just asking for trouble |
| 20:35.41 | Shirik | It has flood protection |
| 20:35.44 | MentalPower | ah, the coroutine foo |
| 20:36.28 | Shirik | Who's the script kiddie batrick? |
| 20:36.29 | batrick | apparently he isn't even logging messages cuz he begged me to reveal what i did |
| 20:36.43 | batrick | he speant 5 minutes bragging about its capabilities |
| 20:36.56 | batrick | Shirik: Kragoth = bot, Insane = script kiddie |
| 20:37.00 | Shirik | batrick, tell me the trigger, I want to have some fun! |
| 20:37.09 | Shirik | the script kiddie has a bot? |
| 20:37.11 | batrick | i had to ask for execution privledges |
| 20:37.15 | Shirik | boo |
| 20:37.31 | batrick | i promised i wouldn't use a while loop :) |
| 20:38.40 | batrick | ::: signoff/#botpark Kragoth (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 20:38.40 | batrick | 13:22:32 < Insane> lol |
| 20:38.40 | batrick | 13:22:33 < batrick> smashT |
| 20:38.40 | batrick | 13:22:35 < Insane> you killed lua.dll |
| 20:38.40 | batrick | 13:22:39 < batrick> damn right i did |
| 20:38.48 | Shirik | don't tell him |
| 20:38.53 | batrick | i don't plan to |
| 20:39.26 | Shirik | you know, I have a hunch that you should be able to inject code through that exploint |
| 20:39.30 | Shirik | I just never figured out quite how |
| 20:40.04 | Esamynn|Work | KarlThePagan: compilers wasn't required at my school, but I took it, and I found it to be VERY valuable |
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| 20:41.03 | batrick | my favorite part was "i even had a try catch around it" |
| 20:41.05 | batrick | cry more! |
| 20:41.18 | Shirik | try catch |
| 20:41.24 | Shirik | because you know, that totally catches segfault |
| 20:41.25 | Shirik | yup |
| 20:41.28 | batrick | indeed |
| 20:41.29 | KarlThePagan | Esamynn|Work, compilers was just ok for me, I suppose it depends on your field |
| 20:41.30 | cogwheel | dolby-wowi: thanks for fixing my fishing trainer tag =) |
| 20:41.33 | Saint-N | battrick smashes the stack! |
| 20:41.37 | KarlThePagan | I regret not taking the databases elective |
| 20:41.47 | Shirik | Ubuntu has some nice stack smashing protections |
| 20:41.54 | Shirik | it was pissing me off the other day I was trying to break into my own computer |
| 20:42.04 | Esamynn|Work | KarlThePagan: was the elective where they teach you how DBs work on the back end? |
| 20:43.36 | Esamynn|Work | my main regret from school was not taking Numerical Computation earlier, I left it til late, long after I had finished all my other Maths, and I hated it because of that |
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| 20:48.46 | Shirik | batrick, there's an annoying bug in your bot |
| 20:48.53 | Shirik | loadstrings don't run in the same environment :/ |
| 20:49.24 | batrick | example? |
| 20:49.43 | Shirik | well |
| 20:49.46 | Shirik | malicious example >< |
| 20:49.59 | Shirik | (15:47:58) (Shirik) --> s = "return "; for x = 1, 196 do s = s..x..","; end s = s .. 197; foo = assert(loadstring(s)); print(foo) assert(loadstring("local a; "..("a,"):rep(196).."a="..("foo(),"):rep(196).."foo()"))() return 1; |
| 20:49.59 | Shirik | (15:47:59) (batbot) Shirik: > [string "local a; a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,..."]:1: attempt to call global 'foo' (a nil value) |
| 20:51.14 | batrick | -- |
| 20:51.24 | Shirik | ? |
| 20:51.45 | batrick | --> getfenv(loadstring("a = function() end")), getfenv(_G) |
| 20:51.45 | batbot | batrick: > ./sandbox.lua:138: bad argument #1 to 'getfenv' (number expected, got table) |
| 20:51.49 | batrick | --> getfenv(loadstring("a = function() end")), getfenv(getfenv) |
| 20:51.49 | batbot | batrick: > table: 0x80b87e8, table: 0x81245b8 |
| 20:51.54 | batrick | hmm |
| 20:51.58 | Saint-N | zomg you cored wob! |
| 20:51.59 | batrick | --> getfenv(loadstring("a = function() end")).task, getfenv(getfenv) |
| 20:51.59 | batbot | batrick: > table: 0x81251e0, table: 0x81245b8 |
| 20:52.03 | batrick | o that's bad |
| 20:52.19 | Shirik | is that luatask having fun again? |
| 20:53.10 | batrick | the function is given the global environment, not the sandbox environment |
| 20:53.51 | Shirik | haha |
| 20:54.00 | Shirik | damn! |
| 20:54.05 | Shirik | I could have had some real fun with that |
| 20:54.41 | batrick | yes you could have :) |
| 20:54.45 | Esamynn|Work | lol |
| 20:54.58 | MentalPower | -->getfenv(0) |
| 20:55.02 | Shirik | I found a bug though, I consider my statement two days ago fuffilled |
| 20:55.06 | MentalPower | ah |
| 20:55.08 | MentalPower | bah |
| 20:57.13 | Shirik | hey batrick, that script kiddie's bot |
| 20:57.19 | Shirik | did you ever look at the os library? |
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| 20:57.45 | batrick | it's empty |
| 20:57.50 | Shirik | boo |
| 20:57.52 | batrick | he moved date to _G and that's it |
| 20:57.55 | batrick | no io either |
| 20:58.03 | Shirik | what about getmetatable(_G) ? |
| 20:58.06 | batrick | --> getfenv( |
| 20:58.07 | batbot | batrick: > [string "0"]:1: unexpected symbol near '<eof>' |
| 20:58.27 | batrick | --> getfenv(loadstring("function a() end")),getfenv(getfenv) |
| 20:58.38 | batbot | batrick: > table: 0x80abb18, table: 0x80abb18 |
| 20:58.38 | batrick | O.o |
| 20:58.50 | batrick | well that's better |
| 20:59.09 | Shirik | --> local foo=4;; loadstring("print(foo)")() |
| 20:59.09 | batbot | Shirik: > [string "0"]:1: unexpected symbol near ';' |
| 20:59.13 | Shirik | --> local foo=4; loadstring("print(foo)")() |
| 20:59.13 | batbot | Shirik: nil |
| 20:59.17 | Shirik | looks right |
| 20:59.40 | batrick | anyway bbl |
| 21:02.05 | kamdis | ok macro gurus, please help: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4032682128&postId=41188660385&sid=1 |
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| 21:05.45 | Shirik | I have no issues with the macro |
| 21:05.50 | Shirik | tested now |
| 21:06.59 | MentalPower | --> getfenv(0) |
| 21:07.00 | batbot | MentalPower: > table: 0x80abb18 |
| 21:07.39 | kamdis | thanks shirik |
| 21:07.47 | kamdis | it did sound really odd to me |
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| 21:10.05 | Shirik | I love this response |
| 21:10.11 | Shirik | --> return getfenv(0) |
| 21:10.11 | batbot | Shirik: > table: 0x80abb18 |
| 21:10.14 | Shirik | er |
| 21:10.20 | Shirik | --> return getmetatable(getfenv(0)) |
| 21:10.20 | batbot | Shirik: > leave this alone |
| 21:10.45 | MentalPower | lol! |
| 21:10.52 | Polarina | :P |
| 21:10.54 | Tem|AFK | lol nice |
| 21:11.30 | nevcairiel | --> return getmetatable(getfenv(0)).__tostring |
| 21:11.30 | batbot | nevcairiel: > nil |
| 21:11.32 | nevcairiel | hrm |
| 21:11.46 | nevcairiel | --> return type(getmetatable(getfenv(0))) |
| 21:11.46 | batbot | nevcairiel: > string |
| 21:11.50 | nevcairiel | interesting :D |
| 21:12.13 | Polarina | :) |
| 21:12.15 | Shirik | not hard to do |
| 21:12.25 | nevcairiel | i know |
| 21:12.34 | MentalPower | --> for k in pairs(getmetatable(getfenv(0)).__index) do print(k) end |
| 21:12.34 | batbot | MentalPower: > ./sandbox.lua:187: bad argument #1 to 'next' (table expected, got nil) |
| 21:12.53 | Shirik | it's a string you aren't getting much out of it :P |
| 21:13.18 | MentalPower | --> for k in pairs(getmetatable(getmetatable(getfenv(0))(.__index) do print(k) end |
| 21:13.18 | batbot | MentalPower: > [string "0"]:1: unexpected symbol near '.' |
| 21:13.25 | malreth | our bionic future is now just a little bit closer: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22731631/wid/11915829?gt1=10841 |
| 21:13.30 | MentalPower | --> for k in pairs(getmetatable(getmetatable(getfenv(0))).__index) do print(k) end |
| 21:13.30 | batbot | MentalPower: > ./sandbox.lua:187: bad argument #1 to 'next' (table expected, got nil) |
| 21:13.32 | malreth | i'll be *second* in line to buy those |
| 21:13.41 | Shirik | --> getmetatable(getmetatable(getfenv(0))) == getmetatable(getfenv(0)) |
| 21:13.41 | batbot | Shirik: > true |
| 21:13.47 | Shirik | So you aren't getting very far :P |
| 21:14.07 | Tem|AFK | --> for k,v in pairs(getfenv(0)) if type(v) == "table" then print(v.__index) end end |
| 21:14.08 | batbot | Tem|AFK: > [string "0"]:1: 'do' expected near 'if' |
| 21:14.15 | Tem|AFK | --> for k,v in pairs(getfenv(0)) do if type(v) == "table" then print(v.__index) end end |
| 21:14.16 | batbot | Tem|AFK: nil nil nil nil nil nil |
| 21:14.27 | Tem|AFK | --> for k,v in pairs(getfenv(0)) do if type(v) == "table" then print(v.__newindex) end end |
| 21:14.27 | batbot | Tem|AFK: nil nil nil nil nil nil |
| 21:14.41 | Tem|AFK | --> for k,v in pairs(getfenv(0)) do if type(v) == "table" then print(v.__tostring) end end |
| 21:14.42 | batbot | Tem|AFK: nil nil nil nil nil nil |
| 21:14.52 | MentalPower | -->return ("").sub |
| 21:14.53 | batbot | MentalPower: > function: 0x80abc20 |
| 21:15.09 | MentalPower | -->return getmetatable("") |
| 21:15.09 | batbot | MentalPower: > leave this alone |
| 21:15.12 | Polarina | --> bak_math = math; --[[ Backup ]] math = nil; setmetatable(_G, { ["__index"] = function() return ":P" end, ["__newindex"] = function() end, }) |
| 21:15.12 | MentalPower | lol |
| 21:15.12 | batbot | Polarina: > [string "0"]:1: cannot modify secure global variables |
| 21:15.18 | Polarina | --> math |
| 21:15.19 | batbot | Polarina: > table: 0x80b43d8 |
| 21:15.23 | MentalPower | so you protected the string metatable too :) |
| 21:15.30 | Polarina | --> math.floor = nil |
| 21:15.31 | batbot | Polarina: > [string "0"]:1: cannot modify math table |
| 21:15.49 | MentalPower | --> string.foo = function(...) return print(...) end |
| 21:15.50 | batbot | MentalPower: > [string "0"]:1: cannot modify string table |
| 21:16.06 | nevcairiel | use query :P |
| 21:16.29 | Tem|AFK | --> rawset(string,"foo","bar") |
| 21:16.30 | batbot | Tem|AFK: > cannot perform rawset on protected variables |
| 21:16.36 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 21:16.46 | Polarina | --> rawset(math, "floor", nil) |
| 21:16.46 | batbot | Polarina: > cannot perform rawset on protected variables |
| 21:17.23 | Tem|AFK | --> debug.getregistry() |
| 21:17.23 | batbot | Tem|AFK: > [string "return debug.getregistry()"]:1: attempt to index global 'debug' (a nil value) |
| 21:17.28 | Polarina | --> loadstring("math.floor = nil")() |
| 21:17.29 | batbot | Polarina: > [string "math.floor = nil"]:1: cannot modify math table |
| 21:17.31 | Tem|AFK | kerwhat? |
| 21:17.35 | Tem|AFK | no debug table? |
| 21:18.08 | Polarina | --> local s = "a,"; for i=1,18 do s = s..s end print(loadstring("local a;"..s.."a=nil", "")) -- :P |
| 21:18.09 | batbot | Polarina: nil [string ""]:1: main function has more than 197 variables in assignment |
| 21:18.17 | Polarina | STUPID PATCHES!! |
| 21:18.36 | Polarina | --> a = function(a) coroutine.wrap(a)(a) end a(a) |
| 21:18.36 | batbot | Polarina: > [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1...(tldr) |
| 21:20.42 | Tem|AFK | --> local p,s= "a?","a" return string.match(p:rep(30)..s:rep(30),s:rep(30)) |
| 21:20.43 | batbot | Tem|AFK: > aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 21:20.57 | Tem|AFK | --> local p,s= "a?","a" return string.match(p:rep(30),s:rep(30)) |
| 21:20.58 | batbot | Tem|AFK: > nil |
| 21:21.19 | Tem|AFK | props to lua's regex |
| 21:21.24 | Tem|AFK | it doesn't fail where perl does |
| 21:21.43 | Shirik | ? |
| 21:22.31 | Tem|AFK | that patter would have taken perl longer than a minute to complete |
| 21:22.42 | Tem|AFK | s/ter/tern/ |
| 21:23.41 | krka | --> s='a';for i=1,20 do s=s..s;end;s:match('a*b') |
| 21:23.46 | batbot | krka: > maximum execution time/memory exceeded |
| 21:24.17 | krka | --> s='a';for i=1,10 do s=s..s;end;s:match('a*b') |
| 21:25.53 | MentalPower | --> return "" |
| 21:25.53 | krka | --> return "hello world" |
| 21:25.53 | batbot | MentalPower: > |
| 21:25.54 | batbot | krka: > hello world |
| 21:26.05 | MentalPower | --> s='a';for i=1,10 do s=s..s;end;s:match('a*b') |
| 21:26.12 | krka | it just ignored me i suppose |
| 21:26.17 | MentalPower | wierd... |
| 21:26.24 | MentalPower | --> return "hello" |
| 21:26.24 | batbot | MentalPower: > hello |
| 21:26.33 | MentalPower | nop, its just ignoring that one |
| 21:26.36 | krka | --> s='a';for i=1,10 do s=s..s;end;return s:match('a*b') |
| 21:26.37 | batbot | krka: > nil |
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| 21:26.43 | krka | --> s='a';for i=1,15 do s=s..s;end;return s:match('a*b') |
| 21:26.49 | batbot | krka: > maximum execution time/memory exceeded |
| 21:27.02 | krka | --> s='a';for i=1,15 do s=s..s;end;return 1--s:match('a*b') |
| 21:27.03 | batbot | krka: > 1 |
| 21:27.18 | krka | so it uses an os interupt |
| 21:27.21 | Polarina | --> collectgarbage("collect") collectgarbage("stop") |
| 21:27.51 | krka | --> "\n" |
| 21:27.51 | batbot | krka: > \n |
| 21:28.39 | krka | --> "\\n" |
| 21:28.40 | batbot | krka: > \n |
| 21:29.17 | Polarina | --> local a = "a"; while true do a = a .. a; end |
| 21:29.23 | batbot | Polarina: > maximum execution time/memory exceeded |
| 21:29.40 | Polarina | --> print(("a"):rep(4096)) |
| 21:29.41 | batbot | Polarina: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...(tldr) |
| 21:29.51 | Cairenn | ... |
| 21:30.04 | krka | --> return #("."):rep(1e7) |
| 21:30.05 | batbot | krka: > 10000000 |
| 21:30.09 | krka | --> return #("."):rep(1e9) |
| 21:30.15 | batbot | krka: > maximum execution time/memory exceeded |
| 21:30.37 | krka | --> ... |
| 21:30.41 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Cairenn |
| 21:30.41 | purl | smacks Cairenn up side the head with a clue-by-4 |
| 21:31.06 | Cairenn | Mine! |
| 21:33.06 | cogwheel | purl, apologize to Cairenn |
| 21:33.06 | purl | ACTION jbot says he's very very sorry for everything and that cogwheel made him do it and it wasn't his fault. |
| 21:33.20 | Cairenn | lol |
| 21:33.32 | Shirik | Insane is a strange man |
| 21:33.40 | Duman | WTB CM to mass-ban all the retards in the Bug Report forum |
| 21:33.40 | MentalPower | he is indeed |
| 21:33.41 | Shirik | why would you run a bot that you know nothing about? |
| 21:33.41 | Duman | sigh |
| 21:33.49 | Shirik | That's a good way toget your computer destroyed |
| 21:33.51 | MentalPower | ~literal apologize |
| 21:33.51 | purl | "apologize" is "<action> apologizes to $nick" |
| 21:33.58 | Josh_Borke | shirik: i run scripts that i know nothing about all the time! |
| 21:34.00 | Josh_Borke | and exe's too! |
| 21:34.04 | kamdis | How come sometimes purl is a "she" and sometimes it's a "he"? rofl |
| 21:34.15 | MentalPower | its "gender confused" |
| 21:34.15 | kamdis | you people need to standardize! |
| 21:34.17 | Duman | because it's an it ;-) |
| 21:34.18 | kamdis | rofl |
| 21:34.27 | Shirik | purl, are you a female? |
| 21:34.36 | Shirik | hm |
| 21:34.40 | malreth | http://www.brickleyengine.com/ <- really interesting engine design but it looks like some sort of sexual humping beast |
| 21:34.46 | Polarina | purl, are you gender confused? |
| 21:35.11 | Josh_Borke | purl, are you male? |
| 21:35.13 | Shirik | malreth: Interesting design |
| 21:37.01 | malreth | Shirik: the interesting thing is you can either make a 4-cylinder engine that's nearly flat... or you can stack those next to each other to make 8-, 12-, or 16-cylinder variants... and so on. |
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| 21:37.55 | malreth | but yeah... the mechanical gyration and pelvic thrusts is mesmerizing |
| 21:42.43 | Thunder_Child | small minds are fixated on small things |
| 21:45.19 | Shirik | zomg, autounstuck actually worked for once |
| 21:46.06 | End | ~gender |
| 21:46.06 | purl | I'm sexless |
| 21:46.12 | Thunder_Child | ~lart malreth |
| 21:46.12 | purl | whacks malreth with a giant beaver's tail |
| 21:46.24 | Thunder_Child | ~sex |
| 21:46.25 | purl | updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; apt-get install condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; apt-get remove --purge condom; make clean; sleep, or super extractor, http://sf.net/projects/sex/ |
| 21:46.26 | End | ~gender |
| 21:46.27 | purl | I'm pregnant |
| 21:46.35 | End | that's not a gender! |
| 21:46.39 | End | although it implies gender... |
| 21:46.43 | End | ~gender |
| 21:46.44 | purl | I'm sexless |
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| 21:46.59 | End | ~gender |
| 21:46.59 | purl | I'm not sure |
| 21:47.05 | End | ~literal gender |
| 21:47.05 | purl | "gender" is "<reply> I'm (gay|lesbian|female|sexless|male|hermaphroditic|pregnant|not sure)" |
| 21:48.15 | Duman | heh |
| 21:48.56 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Shizen (i=roo@170.57.48.60.trm01-home.tm.net.my) |
| 21:49.03 | Shizen | wow it's really here :o |
| 21:49.30 | Shirik | ? |
| 21:49.35 | Cairenn | what is, Shizen? |
| 21:49.42 | Shizen | this channel :3 |
| 21:49.52 | malreth | what channel? |
| 21:49.53 | Shirik | All the cool people are on this channel |
| 21:49.57 | Cairenn | everywhere it's listed, I say that it's on freenode :) |
| 21:49.59 | Shirik | ~lart malreth |
| 21:49.59 | purl | runs at malreth with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut |
| 21:50.02 | Thunder_Child | not reallt Shirik |
| 21:50.08 | Shirik | Well I'm here |
| 21:50.10 | Shirik | that's all that matters |
| 21:50.15 | Shizen | so *ahem* |
| 21:50.36 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn, please kick Shirik |
| 21:50.45 | Shirik | It would be pointless |
| 21:50.51 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 21:50.57 | Shizen | considering I lost my friend's homemade addons that I've been continuously hacking over the years and I don't think I can get him to make it again..... |
| 21:51.00 | Cairenn | no it wouldn't |
| 21:51.07 | malreth | Shirik would have to beg for it nicely before Cairenn would do that. |
| 21:51.10 | Shizen | any idea how I can get all the events related to how a player can gain/lose money ? |
| 21:51.13 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 21:51.30 | Shirik | hm |
| 21:51.39 | malreth | watch... Cairenn, pretty pretty please kick me. I love you forever. <3 <3 |
| 21:51.40 | Shizen | I know you got a PLAYER_MONEY event for each time you gain/lose money |
| 21:51.51 | *** kick/#wowi-lounge [malreth!n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn] by Cairenn (Cairenn) |
| 21:52.00 | *** join/#wowi-lounge malreth (n=malreth@wireless-128-62-168-25.public.utexas.edu) |
| 21:52.02 | *** join/#wowi-lounge kd3 (n=kd3@host-12-173-142-252.nctv.com) |
| 21:52.03 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 21:52.04 | Esamynn|Work | lol |
| 21:52.08 | Shizen | eugh edu connection |
| 21:52.11 | malreth | <3 |
| 21:52.18 | End | Cairenn: you better hold him to that |
| 21:52.20 | Shizen | malreth : gimme some of that edu pipe you have >_> |
| 21:52.22 | kd3 | whee, finally |
| 21:52.24 | End | he better love you forever! |
| 21:52.29 | Shirik | Shizen: So, that's all you need? |
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| 21:52.36 | malreth | Shizen: you have to get a job here first :p |
| 21:52.37 | Shizen | Shirik : yes |
| 21:52.47 | Shirik | I'm still confused |
| 21:52.48 | Shizen | I'm remaking my friend's "Accountant" addon |
| 21:52.51 | Shirik | PLAYER_MONEY is all you need |
| 21:52.55 | Shizen | well |
| 21:53.00 | Shizen | I need to track where it comes from |
| 21:53.10 | Shizen | or where it goes off to |
| 21:53.10 | Shirik | ah |
| 21:53.12 | Esamynn|Work | oh, lol |
| 21:53.20 | Shirik | Did he never upload it anywhere? |
| 21:53.24 | Shizen | now if I can call that within one PLAYER_MONEY event I'd be a happy man |
| 21:53.30 | Shizen | no Shirik he made it especially for me :3 |
| 21:53.42 | Shizen | (wasn't even a WoW player) |
| 21:53.51 | Cairenn | Shizen: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4610-FuBar-MoneyFu.html <== take a look at that one |
| 21:54.07 | Shizen | I've tried that, and I've tried CT_mod's too |
| 21:54.09 | Josh_Borke | there's also Accountant |
| 21:54.15 | Shizen | still doesn't satisfy me :| |
| 21:54.18 | Josh_Borke | and AccountantFu |
| 21:54.18 | Shizen | oh there is ? |
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| 21:54.26 | Josh_Borke | both on wowinterface |
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| 21:54.44 | Shizen | I'd take a look at those |
| 21:55.04 | Shizen | but being able to exert your own prowess on this kind of problem is more satisfying, no ? |
| 21:55.12 | Josh_Borke | indeed |
| 21:55.23 | Josh_Borke | i considered it then decided it would be too big of a pain in the behind to do it properly :-D |
| 21:55.39 | Josh_Borke | trades, mail, AH, guild bank, repair, merchant |
| 21:55.41 | Josh_Borke | training |
| 21:55.46 | Josh_Borke | looting |
| 21:55.51 | malreth | AuditorFu |
| 21:55.53 | Josh_Borke | sooo many events |
| 21:55.56 | Shizen | soo.... I suppose you can catch any PLAYER_MONEY event in the space of a MERCHANT window event |
| 21:56.00 | Josh_Borke | auditorfu, thanks malreth |
| 21:56.06 | Shizen | by toggling a 'merchant_open' variable, or something |
| 21:56.07 | Josh_Borke | Shizen: yes |
| 21:56.19 | Cairenn | bleeter: without the second part of that, you'd probably be fine |
| 21:56.19 | Josh_Borke | Shizen: you can listen for when the merchant window event fires |
| 21:56.30 | Josh_Borke | and enable the PLAYER_MONEY event then |
| 21:57.03 | bleeter | Cairenn: yeah, thought as much. My opinion of Drysc has practically vanished. |
| 21:57.08 | Shizen | so... does PLAYER_MONEY trigger on EVERY money-related events ? |
| 21:57.13 | malreth | and then hope that the user doesn't have an addon enabled that allows the trade window to appear at the same time as a merchant window and that they don't trade some money away |
| 21:57.15 | bleeter | in fact, I suspect it's done a full 180 |
| 21:57.16 | Cairenn | why? he posted that? |
| 21:57.27 | bleeter | no, it was a racist slur on Irish folks |
| 21:57.34 | bleeter | he contributed to the thread |
| 21:57.35 | Cairenn | link? |
| 21:57.49 | bleeter | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4064463956&sid=1 |
| 21:58.14 | Josh_Borke | shizen: yes |
| 21:58.18 | bleeter | i'm irish, I have red hair and am pasty, are other players like me?' |
| 21:58.48 | malreth | bleeter: that's because it's socially acceptable to make fun of the Irish |
| 21:59.37 | bleeter | malreth: and that's why I've called him on the racism, and told the CM complaints email that he needs to go look at Jane Elliot's 'Blue Eyes' racism education program ;) |
| 22:01.11 | bleeter | oO |
| 22:01.15 | bleeter | Heath Ledger's dead |
| 22:01.32 | malreth | ~wiki Heath Ledger |
| 22:01.54 | bleeter | actor dude, his family were neighbours of my mother before she married |
| 22:02.00 | malreth | was he irish? |
| 22:02.14 | bleeter | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:02.18 | bleeter | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:02.21 | bleeter | ~fail malreth |
| 22:02.22 | purl | malreth: Fail. |
| 22:02.33 | malreth | you failed my joke :p |
| 22:02.49 | malreth | ~malreth |
| 22:02.50 | purl | malreth is always right |
| 22:03.08 | malreth | not quite the answer i wanted... but i'll accept it |
| 22:03.37 | bleeter | except when he's wrong |
| 22:03.45 | Tem|AFK | bleeter, it seems to me like you're overreacting |
| 22:04.00 | Tem|AFK | lots of people can't get a tan |
| 22:04.04 | Tem|AFK | myself included |
| 22:04.09 | Tem|AFK | I just get more freckles |
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| 22:04.28 | Tem|AFK | maybe one day I'll get enough that they'll join into a giant, super-freckle and it'll look like a tan |
| 22:05.39 | Tem|AFK | ooh, 2.3.3 today |
| 22:06.23 | malreth | ooh... another rate cut today |
| 22:07.14 | Tem|AFK | well I should hope so.. |
| 22:07.20 | Tem|AFK | half the markets in the world crashed |
| 22:07.34 | malreth | it won't/hasn't helped |
| 22:08.11 | cogwheel | Cairenn: can you move http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6978-ReappearingUnitFrames.html to outdated please? |
| 22:08.43 | Cairenn | will do |
| 22:08.48 | cogwheel | tx muchly |
| 22:09.28 | cogwheel | speaking of which... malreth what day are you driving back from LA? |
| 22:09.34 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Shirik|AFK (n=skullsho@2002:44cc:9fc2:0:0:0:44cc:9fc2) |
| 22:09.47 | malreth | right now i'm not sure we're even going |
| 22:09.56 | cogwheel | ah |
| 22:10.08 | malreth | apparently something is going on in new orleans that weekend that is jacking up all the hotel rates to like double what they should be |
| 22:10.16 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 22:10.22 | Shirik | ~ping |
| 22:10.23 | purl | pong |
| 22:10.32 | Shirik | calkins appears to be dying |
| 22:10.39 | malreth | paying over $150 a night for a hotel that's out side of the city isn't my cup of tea |
| 22:10.40 | Shirik | .mode Shirik +w |
| 22:10.46 | art3mis | calkins? |
| 22:10.54 | Shirik | the freenode server I'm connected to |
| 22:11.07 | art3mis | its just you |
| 22:11.13 | art3mis | you've got the beastman aids |
| 22:11.26 | cogwheel | malreth: well, if you have any excuse to be in the Houston area the week of the 18th, we'll be there... |
| 22:11.36 | malreth | cog: kk |
| 22:11.40 | Lunessa | woot |
| 22:11.54 | Lunessa | drinks and debauchry! |
| 22:12.32 | cogwheel | well, not TOO much debauchry ... my mother-in-law will probably be with us ;) |
| 22:13.01 | Lunessa | vodka tonics all around! |
| 22:13.44 | malreth | cosmopolitans... that's a respectable drink |
| 22:13.56 | bleeter | Tem|AFK: there was a cute cartoon I saw recently, bunch of traders jumping out the window due to 'bush's economic recovery plan', can't seem to find it. Oddly enough, from memory it was published early on the weekend - before the current crash |
| 22:14.05 | bleeter | can't seem to find it atm tho |
| 22:14.24 | Shirik | batrick did some very strange stuff to _G |
| 22:14.34 | Shirik | --> rawset(_G, print, function() end); print(print, rawget(_G, print)) |
| 22:14.34 | batbot | Shirik: function: 0x80dd7e0 function: 0x8174830 |
| 22:14.41 | Shirik | how he managed that I want to know |
| 22:15.30 | Shirik | oh |
| 22:15.38 | Shirik | I'm an imbicile |
| 22:16.06 | Cide | setfenv(1, { print = foo, _G = getfenv(0) }) ? :P |
| 22:16.19 | Shirik | no, I meant rawset(_G, "print") |
| 22:16.23 | Shirik | print != "print" |
| 22:16.26 | Cide | oh |
| 22:16.27 | Cide | but still! |
| 22:16.47 | Cide | why does _G have a print key though? |
| 22:16.56 | Cide | oh |
| 22:16.57 | Cide | you set it |
| 22:16.58 | Cide | ... |
| 22:17.07 | Tem|AFK | malreth, what weekend? |
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| 22:17.46 | malreth | Tem: Feb 15-18 |
| 22:18.02 | Tem|AFK | that's the week after |
| 22:18.06 | Tem|AFK | I'm aboggle |
| 22:18.20 | malreth | yeah... it's after the 5th |
| 22:18.31 | Tem|AFK | Mardi Gras is in 2 weeks |
| 22:18.45 | malreth | and from what i understand, there isn't a game that weekend, either |
| 22:19.03 | malreth | yeah... mardi gras is early this year |
| 22:21.11 | Shirik | oopsie |
| 22:21.12 | Shirik | I win |
| 22:21.50 | Shirik | sorry batrick! |
| 22:22.17 | kd3 | oh what a beautiful sight to see... 70ms ping in wow |
| 22:22.43 | Duman | zomg Hortus lives |
| 22:23.06 | Shirik | hmmm |
| 22:23.10 | Shirik | Cide, can I break you now? :D |
| 22:23.17 | Cide | sure |
| 22:23.26 | Cide | as long as it's a new exploit |
| 22:23.34 | Shirik | as far as I'm aware it is |
| 22:23.50 | Cide | as long as it doesn't reformat my computer |
| 22:24.00 | Shirik | hm |
| 22:24.07 | Cide | but getting around that in vista would be a job well done |
| 22:24.24 | Shirik | hm, you win Cide |
| 22:24.28 | Shirik | must have been something batrick did |
| 22:24.28 | Cide | Shirik: of course I do |
| 22:24.34 | Cide | type what you did in pm |
| 22:24.46 | Cide | without >>> (my bot intercepts it so I don't get spammed) |
| 22:25.23 | kergoth | any hunters here that use an owl? |
| 22:25.51 | Cide | --> string.dump(pcall) |
| 22:26.02 | Shirik | he's not here anymore |
| 22:26.05 | Shirik | for obvious reasons :P |
| 22:26.06 | Cide | oh, right |
| 22:29.08 | Shirik | wtf did I just do |
| 22:29.27 | Cide | I dunno? |
| 22:29.36 | Shirik | Lua's locked up but I don't know how |
| 22:29.38 | Cide | did you set your cat on fire? |
| 22:29.53 | Shirik | all I did was add an assert() |
| 22:30.31 | MentalPower | lol |
| 22:30.40 | Shirik | oh I think I know what's going on |
| 22:30.49 | Shirik | it's one hell of a stack unwinding proceedure |
| 22:31.01 | Shirik | it's stuck overflowing the stack and then fixing it again |
| 22:31.13 | Shirik | that's awesome |
| 22:31.26 | MentalPower | Shirik: how the hell did you manage that? |
| 22:31.47 | Xinhuan | it seems like making bots due is an art :D |
| 22:31.49 | Shirik | My error function overflows the C stack, so it unwinds that and passes the error back to the function that called it, which then calls the error function, overflowing the C stack again |
| 22:32.24 | Shirik | it's actually kinda beautiful |
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| 22:32.31 | Shirik | elegant |
| 22:32.38 | MentalPower | I think Xinhuan means "it seems like making bots die is an art :D" |
| 22:32.53 | Xinhuan | yes, :) |
| 22:33.15 | Cide | my bot doesn't die |
| 22:33.38 | Xinhuan | that doesn't stop people from trying though! |
| 22:34.40 | Shirik | (17:34:11) -› [notice from Cide]: C stack overflow |
| 22:34.41 | Shirik | =( |
| 22:35.03 | Cide | is that what happens if you pcall your function? :P |
| 22:35.08 | Cide | in your lua environment |
| 22:35.11 | Shirik | nah, that was something else I tried :P |
| 22:35.13 | Cide | ah |
| 22:35.16 | Cide | I can't see :P |
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| 22:35.30 | Shirik | It seems you don't use tostring() on tables |
| 22:35.40 | Cide | I serialize them myself |
| 22:35.41 | Cide | >>> { } |
| 22:35.42 | Cide | Cide: { } (#1) |
| 22:35.46 | Cide | >>> tostring({ }) |
| 22:35.46 | Cide | Cide: "table: 00313CD8" |
| 22:35.54 | Cide | it *is* called though |
| 22:35.59 | Cide | to get its addr |
| 22:38.03 | Shirik | hm |
| 22:38.08 | Shirik | I hope I didn't lock up Cide |
| 22:38.14 | Cide | no... |
| 22:38.21 | Shirik | you're ignoring me? :( |
| 22:38.22 | Cide | I'm invincible |
| 22:38.26 | Cide | no? :P |
| 22:38.40 | Shirik | Your bot refuses to respond to this line of code |
| 22:38.42 | Shirik | oh there it goes |
| 22:38.54 | Cide | was that >5s? |
| 22:38.56 | Shirik | (17:37:27) (Shirik) >>> |
| 22:39.03 | Shirik | (17:38:14) (Cide) Shirik: maximum execution time (5s) exceeded |
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| 22:39.12 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o zootfizzle] by ChanServ |
| 22:39.13 | End | blarg portal error! |
| 22:39.21 | Shirik | I'm not entirely sure but I don't think that's 5s cide |
| 22:39.33 | Cide | you just had a very slow statement executed |
| 22:39.36 | kd3 | gasp |
| 22:39.39 | MentalPower | ZOMG |
| 22:39.41 | End | dolby-wowi: on http://endx7.wowinterface.com/portal_admin.php?id=19&a=listfeatures "Fatal error: Cannot use object of type vB_Datastore_Memcached as array in /var/www/vhosts/wowinterface.com/httpdocs/forums/includes/functions_bbcodeparse.php on line 716" |
| 22:39.44 | MentalPower | it be a zootfizzle! |
| 22:39.50 | zootfizzle | =O |
| 22:40.02 | Cide | it only checks the time everytime a statement is executed so... |
| 22:40.12 | Cairenn | hi zootfizzle |
| 22:40.14 | Shirik | hi zootfizzle |
| 22:40.19 | End | hey zootfizzle! |
| 22:40.22 | cogwheel | zoot! ca va mal! |
| 22:40.22 | Cide | hi zootfizzle |
| 22:40.24 | zootfizzle | Just wanted to pop in and say thanks to everyone who helped by investigating and reporting the macro issues in 2.3.2 =) |
| 22:40.28 | Cide | (I had to, sorry) |
| 22:41.00 | Shirik | "I refuse to help test because of all the issues I have had in the past hohoho" |
| 22:41.06 | zootfizzle | ;( |
| 22:41.14 | Shirik | Sorry, that guy on the forums annoyed me, I had to say that :) |
| 22:41.16 | zootfizzle | Shirik makes gnome babies cry. |
| 22:41.24 | End | true |
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| 22:41.26 | zootfizzle | ~whalestab Shirik |
| 22:41.27 | purl | ACTION stabs Shirik with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery |
| 22:41.27 | Cide | he makes all babies cry |
| 22:41.28 | Shirik | Gnomes are spawn of satan |
| 22:41.36 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o cladhaire] by ChanServ |
| 22:41.44 | Shirik | Ooh, cladhaire's back, can I break your bot cladhaire? |
| 22:41.52 | kd3 | hey, I resemble that remark |
| 22:41.54 | Shirik | I didn't want to do it with you not here |
| 22:42.15 | End | cogwheel: top processes? ;-P |
| 22:42.26 | cladhaire | no |
| 22:42.28 | cladhaire | my internet is fucked, i won't be here for long. |
| 22:42.30 | cladhaire | Shirik: PM me with what you plan |
| 22:42.31 | Shirik | hah ok |
| 22:43.45 | Shirik | lua> "test" |
| 22:43.45 | lua_bot | Shirik: test |
| 22:44.03 | cladhaire | aww tanks! |
| 22:44.23 | cladhaire | anyone wanna log into Ravencrest EU so I can invite to a group? |
| 22:44.30 | cogwheel | hmm... i should just delete top... i use htop now anyway |
| 22:44.45 | cladhaire | so.. why do level 70s think its "cool" to go to redridge, for example, and kill everything. |
| 22:44.49 | End | I doubt anything depends on top existing |
| 22:44.56 | End | unless top has a support library maybe |
| 22:45.00 | End | (which I doubt) |
| 22:45.05 | cogwheel | End: exactly my thinking |
| 22:45.38 | Lunessa | cladhaire: I don't. |
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| 22:46.11 | cogwheel | hmm... probably shouldn't make top a symlink to head... |
| 22:46.30 | End | hmm, in my case, top is part of procps |
| 22:47.10 | cogwheel | End: ubuntu? :) |
| 22:47.28 | End | yea |
| 22:47.37 | cogwheel | sudo mv /usr/bin/top /usr/bin/top~ imo |
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| 22:47.51 | cogwheel | bai |
| 22:47.57 | End | I actually use top though, but I think I'll try out htop |
| 22:47.58 | cladhaire | I just made some changed to praid, if anyone feels like testing them out |
| 22:48.00 | cladhaire | since I can't =/ |
| 22:48.13 | cogwheel | End: it's purdy |
| 22:48.14 | End | cladhaire: how big of changes? |
| 22:48.23 | Lunessa | i'll grab it later if you like |
| 22:48.33 | cladhaire | added a strictness filter to buffs, changed the highlight module pretty drastically |
| 22:48.44 | cladhaire | highlight/mouseover/unit tooltips are the easiest to test right now :P |
| 22:48.48 | End | cogwheel: it is purty |
| 22:48.52 | End | I agree |
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| 22:50.12 | cladhaire | ah well, email me with any issues |
| 22:50.14 | cladhaire | heading to bed |
| 22:50.16 | cladhaire | long day tomorrow =/ |
| 22:50.18 | Shirik | night |
| 22:52.42 | MentalPower | is there currently any benefit to running http://www.ntfs-3g.org/ vs http://www.linux-ntfs.org/ |
| 22:53.02 | Shirik | I use 3g, it works, that's about all I can say |
| 22:55.28 | Shirik | Cide is evil |
| 22:55.31 | Shirik | I think he planted a honeypot for me |
| 22:55.44 | Cide | I did? |
| 22:55.49 | Cide | I mean, yes I did |
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| 22:58.47 | bleeter | MentalPower: afaik, linux-ntfs = ntfs1g or 2g |
| 22:58.59 | bleeter | MentalPower: 3g is a userspace filesystem driver, iirc |
| 22:59.14 | MentalPower | so 3g has no kernel component? |
| 22:59.22 | bleeter | also, I think 3g supoprts safe writing to ntfs, whereas the others it's known as unsafe |
| 22:59.41 | MentalPower | well, the linux-ntfs page says otherwise |
| 22:59.41 | JoshBorke | 3g still has a kernel component afaik |
| 22:59.41 | Cidan | wtf |
| 22:59.50 | Cidan | Heath Ledger just commited suicide |
| 22:59.54 | Cidan | wtf |
| 22:59.56 | Cidan | D: |
| 23:00.01 | JoshBorke | bs |
| 23:00.06 | Cidan | No, not bs |
| 23:00.09 | bleeter | Cidan: unsure yet if suicide, or accidental OD |
| 23:00.16 | bleeter | and that's from a friend of the family |
| 23:00.17 | Cidan | I'm going to go with the latter, :P |
| 23:00.22 | Cidan | er |
| 23:00.23 | Cidan | wait |
| 23:00.24 | Cidan | former |
| 23:00.34 | Cidan | still grogy, just woke up from nap |
| 23:00.52 | Shirik | oh holy hell |
| 23:01.06 | Shirik | I'm sitting here trying to figure out for the last 30 minute why computer's going so slow |
| 23:01.08 | Shizen | grrr |
| 23:01.12 | Shirik | that bad Lua script is still running in the background |
| 23:01.19 | JoshBorke | hm |
| 23:01.22 | Cidan | Shizen, Shirik, Cide, Cidan |
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| 23:01.29 | Cidan | Man Shirik, they're just coming for our names. |
| 23:01.40 | Shizen | what ? |
| 23:02.14 | Shirik | › 320: Shizen is identified to services |
| 23:02.19 | Shirik | I guess we have to let him have it :) |
| 23:02.24 | End | I think Cide is more well known than Cidan though :-P |
| 23:02.24 | Shizen | >_> yeh |
| 23:02.28 | Cidan | SHH |
| 23:02.33 | Cidan | Cidan > Cide, D: |
| 23:02.38 | Shizen | I talked an oper since the original owner of this nick no longer uses it |
| 23:02.40 | art3mis | http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22788914/ |
| 23:02.43 | Shirik | batbot, is Cidan > Cide? |
| 23:02.45 | Shizen | but nickserv won't release leash on it |
| 23:02.52 | Shirik | Oh wait, that's right, Shirik > batbot >< |
| 23:02.54 | art3mis | that explains all those police cars and ambulances today |
| 23:03.17 | Cide | >>> "Cidan" > "Cide" |
| 23:03.17 | Cide | Cide: false |
| 23:03.22 | Shirik | owned. |
| 23:03.25 | Cidan | D: |
| 23:03.29 | Shirik | wait wait |
| 23:03.33 | JoshBorke | he was apparently found in mary-kate olsen's apartment |
| 23:03.33 | End | haha |
| 23:03.44 | clad|sleep | lua> "cladhaire" < "Cide" |
| 23:03.44 | lua_bot | clad|sleep: false |
| 23:03.59 | Cidan | lua> "Cidan" > "Cide" |
| 23:03.59 | lua_bot | Cidan: false |
| 23:04.01 | Cidan | Hm |
| 23:04.16 | bleeter | JoshBorke: *owned* by, doesn't say she was living there |
| 23:04.19 | End | >>> "CIdan" > "Cide" |
| 23:04.20 | Cide | End: false |
| 23:04.21 | Shizen | lua> "Shizen" > "Cidan" |
| 23:04.21 | lua_bot | Shizen: true |
| 23:04.25 | Shizen | har |
| 23:04.38 | Cidan | I'm so going to go cook. |
| 23:04.40 | JoshBorke | bleeter: i never said anything about her living there :-) |
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| 23:05.03 | End | although, I guess you could modify Cide ;-P |
| 23:05.08 | Cide | grr |
| 23:05.13 | bleeter | JoshBorke: sorry, I just had to tell my guild off for saying some pretty nasty stuff about him being 'just an actor who played a fag' |
| 23:05.15 | End | >>> "Cidan" > "CIDE" |
| 23:05.15 | Cide | End: true |
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| 23:05.23 | bleeter | by informing them he was a friend of the family |
| 23:05.27 | Cide | my ide says this line of code contains a syntax error |
| 23:05.30 | Cide | for id, point in enumerate(points): |
| 23:05.35 | Cide | I can't see where |
| 23:05.39 | bleeter | I can see this ain't gunna be a 'fun' day on the intarwebs for me |
| 23:05.41 | Shirik | the semicolon? |
| 23:05.42 | End | must be python |
| 23:05.46 | Cide | it is |
| 23:05.49 | End | that's a colon! |
| 23:05.53 | End | ~lart Shirik |
| 23:05.53 | purl | frags Shirik with his BFG9000 |
| 23:05.55 | JoshBorke | bleeter: meh, i've only known him as an actor |
| 23:05.56 | Shirik | can't see |
| 23:06.12 | JoshBorke | bleeter: so i can't say anything about him. though i did like to poke fun at the way he had to hold his mouth for brokeback mountain |
| 23:06.20 | JoshBorke | my fiancee gets pissed every time i do it |
| 23:06.42 | bleeter | so yeah, I retaliated by speaking Palaw Kani at my guild |
| 23:06.43 | Thunder_Child | JoshBorke, do it, do it, do it |
| 23:06.52 | Thunder_Child | what are you supposed to be doing? |
| 23:06.52 | bleeter | confused the hell outta them |
| 23:06.57 | JoshBorke | i think it's hilarious |
| 23:07.34 | JoshBorke | poor guy, he seemed to be a really good actor to me |
| 23:07.52 | Shirik | You see, Cide's bot has an inherent flaw... but it's not actually a flaw due to the way he outputs data |
| 23:07.52 | bleeter | he shat all over crowe |
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| 23:07.59 | JoshBorke | oh well, time to play some wow |
| 23:08.00 | Cide | Shirik: ha. |
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| 23:08.07 | Cide | I'm invincible |
| 23:08.21 | Shirik | it sucks because it's glaring right back at me like "haha look at me" and then I'm like "I will eat you!" and then it's all like "no you can't I'm not really here hahaha" |
| 23:08.22 | End | like some sort of invincable tank man? |
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| 23:12.48 | Cidan | .. |
| 23:12.55 | Cidan | What the hell are you on mate? |
| 23:13.20 | alestane | I presume you're not talking to me. |
| 23:13.28 | Shirik | no I think he's talking to me |
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| 23:14.53 | alestane | Sorry, I just got here. |
| 23:16.02 | Cidan | Didn't we all just... get here? I mean really we must examine what it is we're here for anyways. Why were we placed on this earth? Who did it? |
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| 23:16.14 | Shirik | my parents did it |
| 23:16.18 | Cidan | Oh. |
| 23:16.18 | Shirik | they said it was an accident |
| 23:16.22 | Cidan | Hm |
| 23:16.23 | alestane | "Plastic....asshole." |
| 23:16.26 | Shirik | I'm kidding :P |
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| 23:16.29 | Shizen | hmm this is odd |
| 23:16.41 | cogwheel | :( |
| 23:16.45 | cogwheel | I liked Heath Ledger |
| 23:16.50 | Cidan | As did I |
| 23:17.06 | Cidan | sad to see him bick the kucket |
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| 23:19.59 | reqol | does anyone know the name of that quest addon that shows you a path that takes the least amount of time to do all quests in your quest log for that specific area |
| 23:20.04 | bleeter | oO http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3881784980&postId=38813076989&sid=1#0 ? |
| 23:20.13 | esteth | QuestHelper perhaps reqol |
| 23:20.32 | bleeter | ^^ UnitBuff broken? |
| 23:20.42 | cogwheel | bleeter: supposedly... |
| 23:21.43 | bleeter | heh, the quest icon cursor broken on some ATI cards is.. amusing |
| 23:21.49 | bleeter | cogwheel: odd, though |
| 23:21.55 | *** join/#wowi-lounge dieck__ (n=dieck@p5B22C639.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 23:22.41 | bleeter | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3773314572&sid=1 |
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| 23:22.58 | bleeter | if, in fact, it's select ATI cards that are 'broken' |
| 23:23.05 | batrick_ | that fucking script kiddie |
| 23:23.13 | batrick_ | i bet he's fucking with my server |
| 23:23.16 | reqol | esteth: thanks |
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| 23:24.25 | |pez| | I wonder if WoW will ever give guilds the possability of renaming. |
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| 23:25.12 | art3mis | http://www.derekhail.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/olga-kurylenko-lingerie06.jpg <-- boobies yay \o/ sorta sfw if lingere and no nudity is allowed |
| 23:25.23 | art3mis | PS. this is the ONLY reason to see hitman |
| 23:26.07 | Thunder_Child | i am....aquiring hitman as we speak |
| 23:26.16 | Thunder_Child | but not for her |
| 23:26.22 | bleeter | |pez|: post a suggestion, that... eg, given a char rename = $10, guild rename should = $100. Nice business case for earning loadsa cash. All those idiots who can't spell and get laughed at, etc. etc. |
| 23:27.14 | Cidan | is it true the movie has some sort of love between 47 and her? |
| 23:27.28 | |pez| | I mean, atleast now with the whole guildbank thing costing a bunch of money. |
| 23:27.45 | art3mis | Thunder_Child: its not a very good movie ;P |
| 23:27.52 | art3mis | she is the reason you should continue to get it |
| 23:28.08 | Thunder_Child | most people thought pluto nash was a bad movie but i enjoyed it |
| 23:28.12 | bleeter | art3mis: does she get around in the movie clothed like that? |
| 23:28.12 | art3mis | although timothy olyphant does a decent enough job making the character akin to the video game |
| 23:28.17 | End | |pez|: yeah, we're facing that issue with a guild merger we're working on |
| 23:28.19 | Thunder_Child | what other people think is imaterial |
| 23:28.20 | art3mis | bleeter: magic |
| 23:28.29 | End | both sides want to keep their names, so we'll probably end up with a new name |
| 23:28.35 | art3mis | oh and shes naked/topless multiple times in the movie |
| 23:29.14 | art3mis | cidan: kind of, it develops as the movie goes |
| 23:29.40 | |pez| | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=509713&in_page_id=1770&in_page_id=1770&expand=true#StartComments |
| 23:30.07 | Shirik | bash: vi: command not found |
| 23:30.10 | Shirik | o________o |
| 23:30.29 | kd3 | the hell? |
| 23:30.47 | Cidan | art3mis: well that's crap. |
| 23:30.56 | Cidan | art3mis: He should get to know her, and then kill her. |
| 23:31.01 | Cidan | Just because. |
| 23:31.06 | Cidan | 47 is just that bad ass. |
| 23:31.10 | art3mis | The couple, who live on benefits in a council house and plan to start a family, have been friends for years. |
| 23:31.17 | art3mis | yeah |
| 23:31.35 | art3mis | hes still a badass for the shooting and killing but he stops treeting her badly as the movie progesses |
| 23:31.50 | cogwheel | ScytheBlade1: woot! > 50% |
| 23:31.51 | art3mis | shirik: thats because nano > 6 |
| 23:31.53 | cogwheel | XD |
| 23:34.04 | kergoth | is there a way to check for NAN on a lua number? |
| 23:34.08 | Shirik | $ nano |
| 23:34.08 | Shirik | bash: nano: command not found |
| 23:34.15 | Cidan | lol |
| 23:34.22 | nevcairiel | pico? |
| 23:34.23 | nevcairiel | joe? :p |
| 23:34.27 | Cidan | cat? |
| 23:34.30 | Cidan | echo? |
| 23:34.33 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 23:34.36 | Shirik | yes cat and echo work -_- |
| 23:34.44 | Cidan | well there you go then |
| 23:34.44 | kergoth | ah. math.huge |
| 23:34.47 | Cidan | have fun. |
| 23:35.21 | Shirik | math.huge will only work for 1.#INF |
| 23:35.23 | Cide | kergoth: NaN ~= NaN |
| 23:35.27 | Cide | >>> 0/0 == 0/0 |
| 23:35.27 | Cide | Cide: false |
| 23:35.31 | nevcairiel | kergoth: there are -1/0, 1/0, 0/0 .. three different forms of NaN .. well actually only 0/0 is NaN, 1/0 is INF, and -1/0 is -INF |
| 23:35.41 | Cide | >>> 0/0 |
| 23:35.41 | Cide | Cide: -1.#IND |
| 23:35.47 | Cide | that's "true" NaN |
| 23:35.49 | Shirik | lua> tostring(0/0) |
| 23:35.49 | lua_bot | Shirik: nan, |
| 23:35.49 | kergoth | someday i'll try to learn about floating point. some day. |
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| 23:35.54 | Shirik | I think that's the best way to find out |
| 23:36.00 | Shirik | lua> tostring(0/0)=="nan" |
| 23:36.00 | lua_bot | Shirik: true |
| 23:36.05 | Cide | Shirik: NaN ~= NaN is faster :P |
| 23:36.10 | Shirik | er |
| 23:36.14 | Shirik | oh, I guess that would work |
| 23:36.17 | Shizen | OH |
| 23:36.20 | Cide | or rather if ( num ~= num ) then -- nan |
| 23:36.23 | Shirik | yeah |
| 23:36.26 | Shizen | THAT is why the DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME doesn't trigger.. |
| 23:36.36 | Shizen | there's an 'if' there that definitely doesn't ring true >_> |
| 23:36.45 | |Jelly| | How long would it take to level a hunter pet from 19 to 70? lol |
| 23:36.58 | nevcairiel | i confused one of the assistants in C class with that comparison to check for NaNs |
| 23:37.03 | nevcairiel | he didnt really know why it worked |
| 23:37.07 | nevcairiel | i tried to explain it |
| 23:37.08 | nevcairiel | but meh :P |
| 23:37.27 | Shizen | hmmm |
| 23:37.36 | Shizen | 1/0 doesn't computer to NaN ? interesting |
| 23:37.40 | Shizen | never tried that :o |
| 23:37.44 | Shizen | *compute |
| 23:38.04 | batrick_ | 1/0 is infitiy :) |
| 23:38.10 | Shizen | well |
| 23:38.17 | Shizen | it would just usually drive a compiler insane ;P |
| 23:38.29 | Shizen | that, or stack/buffer overflow if you hack it to work somehow |
| 23:38.38 | Shizen | been there tried that... |
| 23:39.18 | Shizen | or the program you're trying it one would just say 'Goodbye world' instead of 'Hello world' |
| 23:39.22 | Shizen | *on |
| 23:39.26 | Shizen | I can't type this morning >_> |
| 23:39.31 | Cidan | well it actually depends on the CPU and the OS |
| 23:39.48 | Cidan | ie: some older P2's had a flaw where /0 would cause the entire PC to crash |
| 23:39.52 | Shizen | true |
| 23:39.54 | Shizen | heh |
| 23:40.04 | Shizen | isn't that the register overflow one ? |
| 23:40.08 | Cidan | I believe so |
| 23:40.19 | Shirik | register overflow |
| 23:40.21 | Shirik | awesome |
| 23:40.26 | Shizen | I crashed my lecturer's PC |
| 23:40.44 | Shirik | I like the TLB flaw right now :) |
| 23:41.13 | Shizen | well... the processor would still try to perform the computation by doing near-approximates |
| 23:41.24 | Shizen | and assigning more and more numbers into its internal registers |
| 23:41.27 | Shizen | until it goes BOOM |
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| 23:41.43 | Shirik | It shouldn't go boom... |
| 23:41.52 | Shizen | well... not literally rofl |
| 23:41.57 | Shirik | I know, but still |
| 23:42.04 | Shizen | I know |
| 23:42.06 | Shizen | it shouldn't |
| 23:42.07 | Shizen | but it did |
| 23:42.30 | Shizen | the interesting thing about that flawed architecture was... |
| 23:42.35 | Shizen | Cyrix copied it over XD |
| 23:42.49 | Cidan | lua>math.sqrt(-2) |
| 23:42.50 | lua_bot | Cidan: nan, |
| 23:42.53 | art3mis | whats the name of the rboken mana forge with the prince? |
| 23:42.59 | Shizen | omg lies... |
| 23:42.59 | art3mis | broken |
| 23:43.01 | Cidan | lol |
| 23:43.04 | Cidan | that's awesome. |
| 23:43.10 | Shizen | sqrt(-2) = 2i ! |
| 23:43.12 | Shizen | or 2j |
| 23:43.16 | Shirik | 2J |
| 23:43.16 | Shirik | damn it |
| 23:43.17 | nevcairiel | ultris? |
| 23:43.17 | Shizen | however you play with your notations |
| 23:43.19 | Shirik | there is no i |
| 23:43.22 | Shizen | rofl |
| 23:43.29 | Shizen | we stars using Js too nowaday |
| 23:43.40 | Shizen | it used to be i, you know that don't you Shirik :3 |
| 23:43.41 | Cidan | Well, most computers can't do negative sqrt's |
| 23:43.42 | art3mis | lua> sqrt(3v1l) |
| 23:43.42 | lua_bot | art3mis: sandbox.lua:298: Compilation failed: [string "sqrt(3v1l)"]:1: malformed number near '3v1l' |
| 23:43.42 | Cidan | well |
| 23:43.47 | Cidan | most FPU's rather |
| 23:43.49 | Shirik | Shizen: It's still i |
| 23:43.55 | Shirik | Just not to computer/electrical engineers |
| 23:44.00 | Shizen | true |
| 23:44.05 | Shizen | <-- electronic engineer |
| 23:44.11 | Shirik | Because we like to screw with mathmaticians' heads |
| 23:44.11 | JoshBorke | i is current you idiots |
| 23:44.15 | JoshBorke | shesh |
| 23:44.15 | Shirik | <-- computer engineer |
| 23:44.15 | Shizen | but most of my old math books list it as 'i' |
| 23:44.21 | Shizen | no |
| 23:44.23 | Shizen | current is I |
| 23:44.25 | Shizen | get it right |
| 23:44.28 | Shirik | My math books still list it as i |
| 23:44.28 | Cidan | <-- Nerd D: |
| 23:44.29 | |Jelly| | <-- Kimina beater |
| 23:44.38 | Shirik | But I know better |
| 23:44.56 | Shizen | won't want to get confused with tons of "Is" in the mids of a kirchoff, we don't |
| 23:44.58 | Shirik | !vs us drenden kimina us burning legion jelly |
| 23:45.05 | Shizen | and I suppose yous guys have legitimate reason as well |
| 23:45.11 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Kimina vs Jelly! Two 70 priests square off!; 20/41/0 vs 23/38/0; Jelly wins by 449 TBRs! |
| 23:45.14 | Shirik | wtf? |
| 23:45.17 | Shirik | Are you serious? |
| 23:45.24 | Shizen | HAHA |
| 23:45.25 | Shirik | 449? |
| 23:45.38 | Cidan | !vs us drenden kimina us eredar cidan |
| 23:45.41 | ThraeBot | Cidan: Kimina vs Cidan! Kimina has +4 lvls on Cidan (70 vs 66); A L70 priest and a L66 paladin square off!; 20/41/0 vs 43/13/0; Cidan wins by 275 TBRs! |
| 23:45.42 | Shirik | !co us drenden kimina us burning legion jelly |
| 23:45.42 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Kimina vs Jelly! Two 70 priests compare their stat differences; 20/41/0 vs 23/38/0; Jelly ++1340 HP; Kimina ++421 +healing; Kimina ++0.84% dodge; Kimina ++108 +spelldmg; Jelly ++148 Armour; Jelly ++405 Mana; Kimina ++133 mana regen; Jelly ++111 resilience; Kimina ++67 mp5; Jelly has 2% more stats then Kimina. |
| 23:45.45 | Cidan | hahhaa |
| 23:45.49 | Shizen | >_> |
| 23:45.49 | Cidan | bahahahha |
| 23:46.04 | Shizen | does that take stats from armory ? or just... |
| 23:46.08 | Shirik | !c us drenden kimina |
| 23:46.08 | Cidan | !co us drenden kimina us eredar cidan |
| 23:46.08 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Kimina, Level 70 Blood Elf Priest (20/41/0). 7011 HP; 9915 Mana; 399 mana regen; 182 mp5; 640 +spell dmg; 1706 +heal; 5.90% dodge; 23 resilience;[[ TBR: 731 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2fx6zd ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2pkb3p ][ Updated: Tue Jan 22 18:53:03 2008 EST ]] |
| 23:46.08 | ThraeBot | Cidan: Kimina vs Cidan! Kimina has +4 lvls on Cidan (70 vs 66); A L70 priest and a L66 paladin compare their stat differences; 20/41/0 vs 43/13/0; Kimina ++1435 HP; Cidan ++4 defense; Kimina ++1107 +healing; Kimina ++1.41% dodge; Cidan ++3 fire resist; Cidan ++3 melee hit; Kimina ++2733 Mana; Cidan ++87.400 Melee DPS; Cidan ++4.09% melee crit; Kimina ++331 +spelldmg; Cidan ++7901 Armour; Cidan ++6 |
| 23:46.08 | ThraeBot | 44 AP; Kimina ++236 mana regen; Kimina ++20 resilience; Cidan ++5.08% block; Kimina ++131 mp5; Cidan has 34% more stats then Kimina. |
| 23:46.26 | Shirik | how the hell did you come up with that 34% |
| 23:46.37 | Shirik | the armor? |
| 23:47.07 | Cidan | could be |
| 23:47.15 | Cidan | I really should make him 70 already |
| 23:47.48 | art3mis | okay name yer best place to farm cash drops |
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| 23:48.28 | art3mis | !vs us echo isles rozalyn us eredar cidan |
| 23:48.32 | ThraeBot | art3mis: Rozalyn vs Cidan! Rozalyn has +4 lvls on Cidan (70 vs 66); A L70 priest and a L66 paladin square off!; 23/0/38 vs 43/13/0; Rozalyn wins by 395 TBRs! |
| 23:48.48 | Shirik | Qexit |
| 23:48.59 | art3mis | !vs us echo isles rozalyn us drenden kimina |
| 23:49.02 | ThraeBot | art3mis: Rozalyn vs Kimina! Two 70 priests square off!; 23/0/38 vs 20/41/0; Rozalyn wins by 36 TBRs! |
| 23:52.04 | bleeter | kd3: being a mage, http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1777875983&sid=1 ? |
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| 23:52.54 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:53.15 | bleeter | (frost nova doesn't land freeze, only dmg; evocation returning previous patch mana amount and not the recent buffed amount) |
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| 23:56.15 | Shirik | so GCC locked up compiling Lua |
| 23:56.17 | Shirik | is this a bad thing? |
| 23:56.34 | kd3 | bleeter; that thread's from october |
| 23:58.15 | bleeter | kd3: bah |
| 23:58.18 | bleeter | kd3: apologies |
| 23:59.07 | End | ~fail bleeter |
| 23:59.07 | purl | bleeter: Fail. |
| 23:59.27 | Duman | wow, the cheat death reducing damage by 99% was NOT intended, but is currently unavoidable... |
