| 00:00.57 | esteth | Maybe a bit off-topic, but how would you guys reccomend trying to cheer up our raid leader? He's raid leading most nights, but never seems to get anything, and seems to be getting burned out over it :( |
| 00:01.20 | Cide | don't suck and kill bosses is how my raiders cheer me up |
| 00:01.51 | Cide | in other words, don't count on cheering him up |
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| 00:02.57 | esteth | Ah, okies. We'll just have to work on lifting this curse of no loot :( |
| 00:03.17 | foxlit | Hm, this bugs me |
| 00:03.18 | [dRaCo] | progress is the best cure for bad mood ;) |
| 00:03.37 | foxlit | (And #java is having a rather silly discussion at the moment, so they're unresponsive) |
| 00:03.41 | Cide | um |
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| 00:03.59 | Cide | does dropping mana tide generate a combat log message? |
| 00:04.07 | Cide | (I need to catch when an enemy shaman drops mana tide) |
| 00:04.13 | foxlit | People gain the aura, I think? |
| 00:04.18 | Cide | is it an aura? |
| 00:04.22 | Cide | wasn't sure if it was |
| 00:04.25 | foxlit | (Mana stream is) |
| 00:04.41 | [dRaCo] | don't think the dropping generates a message, but yeah, they should get the aura |
| 00:04.49 | Thunder_Child | esteth, just tell him/her that you are willing to raid untill he/she gets his/her (wow that is iritating) stuff |
| 00:04.51 | foxlit | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=16191 ? |
| 00:05.05 | Cide | ah yep |
| 00:05.07 | Cide | thanks |
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| 00:17.57 | foxlit | http://pastey.net/80971 (Java warning) |
| 00:20.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | THANKS JERK NOW I'M FIRED |
| 00:20.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | >:[ |
| 00:24.22 | MentalPower | ? |
| 00:30.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | MentalPower, it was like a nsfw warnign :p |
| 00:30.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | warning |
| 00:33.06 | foxlit | I've made things very evil by using Class instead of Class<Type> |
| 00:33.22 | Tem | foxlit, I'm not 100% because it's been a while since I've used java |
| 00:33.24 | Tem | but |
| 00:33.44 | bleeter | is anyone aware of a 'simple' way to find the highest itemID from the armory? |
| 00:34.10 | foxlit | bleeter: are you aware of a simple way to find the highest integer? |
| 00:34.32 | foxlit | (you're better off looking in the modelviewer item list) |
| 00:34.39 | Tem | foxlit, try Class<? extends InterfaceA> |
| 00:34.52 | Kaso | the model viewer itemlist is manually created though isnt it? |
| 00:35.21 | bleeter | and while i'm on about it, armory needs a 'recently discovered' page |
| 00:35.22 | foxlit | Tem: possibly implements rather than extends? (inheritance vs interfaces) |
| 00:35.24 | Kaso | basically set up a wget script to request xml files till it gets 404's for a few thousand then you know you've hit top. |
| 00:35.43 | bleeter | Kaso: yeah, had been trying to think of a nicer way to do that |
| 00:35.56 | Tem | foxlit, possibly. For some reason I'm remembering the use of extends for interfaces as well |
| 00:36.05 | Kaso | Not sure if there is a nice way :< |
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| 00:36.24 | foxlit | Tem: implements gives a compiler warning, extends doesn't |
| 00:36.36 | Tem | well there you go |
| 00:36.37 | Shirik | foxlit.... |
| 00:36.48 | Shirik | you just need to do an explicit cast |
| 00:37.07 | Tem | but Shirik, we leared from C that casts are bad, right? |
| 00:37.16 | Shirik | Who told you that casting was bad? |
| 00:37.28 | Tem | (</sarcasm>) |
| 00:37.30 | foxlit | And it works |
| 00:37.36 | Duman | heh |
| 00:38.00 | Tem | Shirik, I have the habit of avoiding a cast when possible |
| 00:38.02 | foxlit | Shirik: Tem's syntax is more or less a cast |
| 00:38.31 | Shirik | Not really, it's chaning the type, but ok |
| 00:38.33 | foxlit | The problem was that I was previously trying to cast to |
| 00:38.41 | foxlit | Class<InterfaceA>, which isn't possible |
| 00:38.54 | Shirik | it should be possible |
| 00:39.24 | foxlit | I am but a simple message of my errors pane :) |
| 00:40.03 | Tem | I'm not sure, Shirik. I never did "master" java |
| 00:40.10 | Tem | though, I imagine I will this semester >< |
| 00:40.16 | Shirik | I'm testing it now |
| 00:40.22 | Tem | gogo writing a scheme compiler in java |
| 00:41.07 | Duman | hmm,what's the preferred "vendor sell price" addon these days |
| 00:41.33 | foxlit | Memory2.0 |
| 00:41.48 | foxlit | (okay, I'm trolling there) |
| 00:41.51 | Duman | heh |
| 00:41.57 | [dRaCo] | I use sellfish |
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| 00:42.51 | Duman | hmm, k |
| 00:43.14 | Duman | I use a bunch of other Tuller mods, so that works :) |
| 00:43.27 | Shirik | foxlit, I don't know what you did |
| 00:43.34 | Shirik | but I don't even have to do an explicit cast |
| 00:43.39 | Shirik | It just takes it |
| 00:44.07 | foxlit | Pastey the code, I'll tell you if there's a difference? |
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| 00:47.54 | Shirik | ok it is a bit of a difference nm |
| 00:48.05 | Wobin | http://www.taurenchef.com/ |
| 00:48.09 | Wobin | tasty! |
| 00:55.14 | Shirik | that actually does look kinda good... |
| 00:55.35 | foxlit | The quality of java documentation is actually rather amazing. |
| 00:59.23 | Shirik | that's because it's automatic |
| 00:59.38 | Shirik | assuming you're intelligent to put a little header on each of your functions |
| 01:00.05 | foxlit | I was actually thinking more about http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/extra/generics/wildcards.html than the javadoc pages for all classes |
| 01:00.12 | foxlit | Though those are helpful as well |
| 01:00.47 | Shirik | I can't believe they're telling you to do Collection<?> |
| 01:01.11 | Shirik | why don't we just put void* into Java... |
| 01:04.27 | foxlit | What's the objection, actually? |
| 01:05.47 | Shirik | uh, they're unsafe |
| 01:06.21 | Shirik | Granted they have their uses, but in many cases they're just plain unsafe and are used because a programmer's being lazy |
| 01:06.50 | Kazie | Anyone here whom happens to know about making wow addons? |
| 01:06.57 | Shirik | heh |
| 01:07.10 | Shirik | I'd estimate at least 50% knows about that, hopefully more |
| 01:07.22 | Shirik | s/knows/of the channel knows/ |
| 01:08.00 | Kazie | Well i need some help .. maybe you can help me then? :) .. this code is kinda.. ehm.. very fucked up i think |
| 01:08.34 | MentalPower | pastey |
| 01:08.48 | Kazie | http://ace.pastey.net/80970 |
| 01:09.32 | Kazie | I don't have any errors or anything.. but i have no idea how to use it in-game.. i had help on that one and was told it should work.. but i can't seem to locate anything :S |
| 01:10.37 | foxlit | The obvious issue would be that x, y are strings rather than numbers |
| 01:10.56 | foxlit | And there is no declared slash command |
| 01:11.22 | foxlit | (a) What is it you're trying to do (b) Is this supposed to be plugged into anything? |
| 01:11.56 | Kazie | All it has to do is move the default Buff frame at the minimap.. and remember the location so it does not move back when i buff or relog |
| 01:12.22 | Kazie | I was told that would do it and i just had to make a .toc file |
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| 01:15.05 | Kazie | Can you help me? :) I'm quite new at this. |
| 01:17.09 | MentalPower | Kazie: http://www.wowwiki.com/AddOns |
| 01:17.22 | MentalPower | Kazie: http://www.wowwiki.com/The_TOC_Format |
| 01:17.24 | foxlit | It's not really as simple as you've been led to believe |
| 01:17.59 | MentalPower | Kazie: http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Create_a_Slash_Command |
| 01:17.59 | foxlit | it won't quite work even with a .toc; though you do need a .toc to make it work. |
| 01:18.45 | Kazie | I have the .toc file .. and it's in my Addons window on my character screen.. i just can't rly figure out how to add the slash commands and stuff :o |
| 01:18.58 | MentalPower | read the above links |
| 01:19.18 | foxlit | Primarily the last one |
| 01:19.27 | Kazie | I have.. several times.. but it seems that i'm doing more damage than good on this :s |
| 01:19.35 | foxlit | You're missing the line that declares a slash command alias in that code |
| 01:19.51 | foxlit | So while you create the SlashCmdList table entry, there's no corresponding SLASH_ global value |
| 01:20.44 | Kazie | That OnLoad stuff or? |
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| 01:23.38 | foxlit | You don't really need to run it on OnLoad; any time is good |
| 01:24.34 | Kazie | I'm really confused :o |
| 01:25.47 | Wobin | hm |
| 01:25.59 | Wobin | there needs to be a aural indicator that you've passed the login queue |
| 01:26.10 | Kazie | A what? |
| 01:26.15 | Wobin | a ding! |
| 01:26.18 | Wobin | or something |
| 01:26.26 | Wobin | so if it's minimised, you know |
| 01:27.19 | Kazie | hmm :s |
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| 02:16.17 | bleeter | Wobin: do you reckon we could write a mod that detects senior Telstra management, and stab them in the face? |
| 02:16.47 | sysrage | yay for tanks fucking up a pull then gquitting and logging in the middle of a raid when you call them on it |
| 02:16.56 | Wobin | bleeter: Why make it so specific? |
| 02:17.03 | Wobin | make it able to stab anyone in the face |
| 02:17.08 | Wobin | and sell it on the internet |
| 02:17.37 | bleeter | Wobin: some targets are more deserving than others |
| 02:17.48 | bleeter | and honestly, I can't think of a more deserving target than those guys |
| 02:17.52 | Wobin | true, but you can't lose sight of the bigger picture |
| 02:19.47 | End | dammit, everytime I make a philly cheese steak, I eat it faster than I intend to |
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| 02:46.51 | Corrodias | i'm sick of this Prince fight |
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| 02:59.37 | Tem | I like prince |
| 02:59.48 | Tem | except for the stupid randomness of it... |
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| 03:36.28 | MentalPower | !api GetMapInfo |
| 03:36.29 | ThraeBot | MentalPower: mapFileName, textureHeight, textureWidth = GetMapInfo(); -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetMapInfo |
| 03:37.54 | Antiarc | http://msnbcmedia2.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photo_StoryLevel/080116/080115-7Eleven2-hmed-10a.hmedium.jpg |
| 03:37.56 | Antiarc | Uhhhhhhhhhh. |
| 03:38.32 | MentalPower | thats odd.. |
| 03:38.36 | MentalPower | +. |
| 03:39.57 | Tem | Antiarc, 2girlsonecup reference? |
| 03:40.06 | Tem | s/one/1/ |
| 03:40.08 | Antiarc | Tem: That's what I'm afraid of :( |
| 03:40.19 | Tem | that'd be pretty hillarious |
| 03:40.28 | Tem | if someone got it past marketing because they didn't know |
| 03:40.54 | Tem | Antiarc, what story is it connected to? |
| 03:41.07 | Antiarc | http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22684708/ |
| 03:41.08 | MentalPower | "In fact, after seeing a demand in the Latino market for a beer mixed with clam sauce and tomato juice, the franchisor partnered with Anheuser-Busch to develop Chelada brand beer." <---Eww!!! I would not drink that even if you payed me! (I'm Latino) |
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| 03:43.28 | Thunder_Child | MentalPower, yes you would |
| 03:43.33 | Gngsk | haha, owned |
| 03:43.40 | MentalPower | hell no |
| 03:43.44 | Thunder_Child | a mill per bottle...you would drink it |
| 03:43.45 | Gngsk | liar! |
| 03:43.47 | MentalPower | you'd have to pay me a lot! |
| 03:43.52 | MentalPower | deal! |
| 03:43.54 | Thunder_Child | ah HAH! |
| 03:44.01 | Thunder_Child | so you did lie |
| 03:44.05 | Thunder_Child | ~lie MentalPower |
| 03:44.15 | Thunder_Child | common purl.... |
| 03:44.23 | Thunder_Child | ~liar MentalPower |
| 03:44.35 | Thunder_Child | ~cookie Tem |
| 03:44.45 | Thunder_Child | .... |
| 03:44.52 | MentalPower | you broke purl! |
| 03:44.54 | MentalPower | congrats |
| 03:44.55 | Tem | *facepalm* |
| 03:45.01 | MentalPower | you get to keep both pieces |
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| 03:49.11 | bleeter | kinky |
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| 04:32.42 | Thunder_Child | ~staple cogwheel |
| 04:32.42 | purl | ACTION attaches a staple gun to a pneumatic nail gun via duct tape, staples cogwheel quite well, and hands cogwheel to thunder_child |
| 04:33.23 | cogwheel | 1 (intentional) disconnect isn't enough for a staple imo |
| 04:33.57 | Thunder_Child | i was bored |
| 04:35.27 | Shirik | 30 minutes left in my birthday, and Cairenn didn't even so much as say "hi" to me today =( |
| 04:35.53 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> #wowi-lounge: Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.3.x ToC: 20300 | Happy Birthday Shirik! |
| 04:36.08 | Shirik | It's too late now |
| 04:36.32 | cogwheel | still have > 3 hrs from my pov |
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| 04:40.24 | Thunder_Child | yup |
| 04:40.36 | Thunder_Child | ~happy Bday Shirik |
| 04:40.39 | Thunder_Child | ~happy Birthday Shirik |
| 04:40.40 | purl | ACTION sings the 'Happy Birthday' song horribly out of tune for Shirik |
| 04:40.55 | Shirik | but thanks Thunder_Child :) Now I shall go get food |
| 04:41.06 | Thunder_Child | pfft, food |
| 04:41.17 | Shirik|AFK | well in theory now I can go get beer |
| 04:41.23 | Shirik|AFK | but I have no intent to do that |
| 04:42.11 | Thunder_Child | you may not have the intentions..... |
| 04:43.33 | Corrodias | man, i am laggy out here in hillsbrad |
| 04:51.05 | Thunder_Child | you know...i just found it interesting that Cairenn changed the MotD for Shirik|AFK's birthday but still didnt say hi... |
| 04:51.14 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 04:52.24 | Thunder_Child | still not.... |
| 04:55.20 | Fisker- | i came to teach you things Thunder_Child |
| 04:55.49 | Thunder_Child | Fisker-, the odds of you teaching me something i dont know are low |
| 04:57.29 | Fisker- | i am better than you |
| 04:57.32 | Fisker- | you didn't know that lolol |
| 04:58.45 | Thunder_Child | i dont know that because it isnt true |
| 04:59.35 | art3mis | wikipedia said it was true TC |
| 04:59.43 | art3mis | and we know how accurate wikipedia is |
| 04:59.48 | Thunder_Child | "The smallest feline is a masterpiece." -Leonardo da Vinci |
| 04:59.53 | Fisker- | i would never post that information on wikipedia |
| 05:00.03 | Fisker- | also i need to take a shit :D |
| 05:00.10 | Fisker- | so i will |
| 05:00.13 | art3mis | becareful fisker |
| 05:00.15 | Fisker- | and take shots of it |
| 05:00.18 | Fisker- | and send it to Thunder_Child |
| 05:00.29 | art3mis | considering the shit content of your body you're liable to vanish ;P |
| 05:00.40 | Thunder_Child | quite so |
| 05:00.59 | Fisker- | your mother :( |
| 05:02.58 | Shirik | <3 Wendy's triple cheeseburger |
| 05:02.59 | Shirik | win |
| 05:03.18 | Thunder_Child | "Thousands of years ago, cats were worshiped as Gods. Cats have never forgotten this" -Anonymous |
| 05:03.32 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: lol, aka wendy's triple heart attack :P |
| 05:03.54 | Shirik | I'm hyperthyroid, my incorrect metabolism will keep me both skinny and safe |
| 05:04.14 | Shirik | Though actually being hyperthyroid should increase the risk of a heart attack |
| 05:04.15 | Shirik | oh well |
| 05:04.16 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, same here, but you can't deny that may be the most unhealthy thing ever sold through a take out window :P |
| 05:04.42 | art3mis | shirik: get a grandslam! |
| 05:04.50 | art3mis | its a secret item on wendy's menu |
| 05:05.06 | NightHawkTheSane | I like having the triple cheeseburger combo meal, replacing fries with chili. |
| 05:05.06 | art3mis | 4 patties 4 slives of cheese and 2 levels of bacon |
| 05:05.07 | Shirik | ? |
| 05:05.11 | art3mis | slices |
| 05:05.14 | Shirik | Is it a real item? |
| 05:05.16 | art3mis | yes |
| 05:05.32 | art3mis | at least it was at all ewst coast wendys |
| 05:05.35 | art3mis | west |
| 05:05.45 | art3mis | it's not on the menu cuz its REALLY bad for you ;) |
| 05:06.01 | art3mis | but its there |
| 05:06.06 | art3mis | and its soooooooooo good |
| 05:06.12 | Shirik | I might have to check this out |
| 05:06.18 | art3mis | used to order it on Daves Death Day every year |
| 05:06.30 | art3mis | to celebrate the best burger guy ever |
| 05:06.35 | Fisker- | i'm still alive |
| 05:06.36 | Fisker- | owned |
| 05:07.02 | Fisker- | haha you got poo on your hands |
| 05:07.07 | Shirik | hm, google confirms this hidden item that art3mis speaks of |
| 05:07.20 | Fisker- | what item? |
| 05:07.28 | art3mis | last time i got it was like 4$ too |
| 05:07.31 | art3mis | a total deal |
| 05:07.32 | Thunder_Child | L2Read Fisker- |
| 05:07.59 | Fisker- | ah |
| 05:08.10 | Shirik | The "grand slam" burger is indeed on the register LCD screens, as well as a "super grand slam" burger |
| 05:08.31 | art3mis | In a natural progression from their Single, Double, and Triple hamburger deals, Wendy's offers a Grand Slam which is, you guessed it, four big slabs of beef on a bun, with full fixin's (and quarter pound patties*, no less)! |
| 05:08.31 | art3mis | This full pound of meat doesn't appear on the menu, probably because it violates a whole bunch of health regulations. The end result is more filling than a Double Big Mac, and has to be wrapped in double the foil due to the sheer volume of grease it exudes. Mmmm, I can feel my arteries hardening just thinking about it. |
| 05:08.50 | art3mis | its uber yummy |
| 05:08.59 | Fisker- | massive fail |
| 05:09.01 | art3mis | ooo a super grandslam! |
| 05:09.01 | Fisker- | i hope you all die |
| 05:09.52 | MentalPower | oh god... |
| 05:10.20 | Fisker- | MentalPower btw |
| 05:10.36 | MentalPower | yes? |
| 05:10.36 | Fisker- | you think it would be possible to cancel auctions by addon? :P |
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| 05:10.53 | MentalPower | you can make a macro for that |
| 05:11.00 | Fisker- | you got one handy? |
| 05:11.08 | Fisker- | pretty annoying having to cancel 80 auctions to relist |
| 05:11.08 | MentalPower | not really |
| 05:11.18 | Corrodias | WOW i'm laggy here in hillsbrad |
| 05:11.22 | MentalPower | there should be one on the norganna forums tho |
| 05:11.32 | Shirik | even wikipedia confirms "grand slam" as being a wendy's menu choice o. |
| 05:11.41 | Tem | Fisker-, why do you need to cancel auctions? |
| 05:12.05 | Fisker- | to sell my shards |
| 05:12.21 | Fisker- | i'm impatient |
| 05:13.02 | MentalPower | Fisker-: http://forums.norganna.org/discussion/2917/ |
| 05:13.07 | Fisker- | thanks |
| 05:13.47 | MentalPower | I even made on that only cancels auctions with no bids |
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| 05:22.52 | cogwheel | ~lart3mis |
| 05:22.53 | purl | ACTION smacks art3mis upside the head just cuz |
| 05:23.42 | Shirik | ~lart3mis |
| 05:23.43 | purl | ACTION smacks art3mis upside the head just cuz |
| 05:25.13 | Shirik | I'm so confused by that statement that I don't even know what to say |
| 05:25.48 | art3mis | you know those mini helicopters? |
| 05:25.49 | Antiarc | So, anyone want a dose of hilarity? |
| 05:25.54 | Antiarc | Like, mega hilarity? |
| 05:25.59 | art3mis | they're dropping erasers on you |
| 05:26.13 | Antiarc | as in "I'm pretty sure I found Rushster's replacement" hilarity? |
| 05:26.15 | art3mis | i do i do! |
| 05:26.32 | Antiarc | I just received this: http://pastebin.com/d24f4f44e |
| 05:26.47 | Antiarc | Now, take 15 seconds and run an nslookup on the domain I apparently hijacked |
| 05:27.05 | Antiarc | Note that it's an alias for the root domain. |
| 05:27.17 | Antiarc | Note that I apparently stole the subdomain while the root domain remains intact. |
| 05:27.40 | Antiarc | Note that he contacted the people hosting "mail.extreme-gaming.info" and requested that they cancel "my" hosting account for breach of copyright. |
| 05:27.50 | Antiarc | Note that "my" account is "his" account since uh, they're the same IP. |
| 05:27.59 | Antiarc | Note that he just shot himself in the ass with a cannon. |
| 05:28.12 | Shirik | I am so confused |
| 05:28.17 | Shirik | but I think I'm supposed to be cracking up so I will |
| 05:28.19 | Shirik | ~laugh |
| 05:28.19 | purl | ACTION rolls around on the floor laughing |
| 05:28.25 | Antiarc | Okay, I have those open source tools |
| 05:28.31 | Antiarc | Someone installed a copy at mail.extreme-gaming.info |
| 05:28.42 | Antiarc | So this guy that owns the domain gets pissed and emails me since my email is on the page |
| 05:28.49 | Shirik | hahaha |
| 05:28.53 | Antiarc | And threatens me telling me to take them down. |
| 05:29.01 | Shirik | threatens to take down his own site |
| 05:29.11 | Antiarc | And says he contacted the people hosting "mail.extreme-gaming.info" and told them to shut down the account for copyright breach. |
| 05:29.19 | Antiarc | Which it's his OWN DAMN SITE. |
| 05:29.22 | Shirik | It will be hilarious if they do |
| 05:29.30 | Antiarc | I will laugh longer than I have laughed in a long time if they do. |
| 05:29.57 | *** join/#wowi-lounge MentalPower (n=MPower@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Administrator/MentalPower) |
| 05:29.57 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+v MentalPower] by ChanServ |
| 05:30.25 | Antiarc | TO TOP IT OFF |
| 05:30.30 | Fisker- | oh lol |
| 05:30.32 | Fisker- | i get it now |
| 05:30.35 | Fisker- | he's a fucking retard |
| 05:30.36 | Antiarc | It was sent from "donotreply@extreme-gaming.info" |
| 05:30.40 | Antiarc | I sent a reply to it. |
| 05:30.41 | Shirik | rofl |
| 05:30.42 | Antiarc | It bounced. |
| 05:33.15 | Thunder_Child | just like he did...when he was a baby |
| 05:33.35 | Fisker- | ooooooh snap |
| 05:33.47 | Antiarc | This has some absolutely stellar drama potential |
| 05:34.10 | Antiarc | Half of me hopes he's an utter retard and gets pissed that I'm not complying and taking down my tools from the domain on a box that I don't have access to |
| 05:34.15 | Antiarc | Just for the hi-larity potential. |
| 05:35.08 | Fisker- | well atleast his host is probably laughing as well |
| 05:36.38 | Fisker- | bed tiems though |
| 05:38.23 | Thunder_Child | Antiarc, your a college dropout? |
| 05:38.30 | Antiarc | Thunder_Child: Hehe, yeah |
| 05:38.46 | Antiarc | I was going to school and working for a company as a programmer making what I'd be making with a degree |
| 05:38.53 | Antiarc | not learning anything at school, was really frustrated with it |
| 05:39.00 | Thunder_Child | are you yhr cheif executive geek then? |
| 05:39.07 | Thunder_Child | the* |
| 05:39.11 | Thunder_Child | chief* |
| 05:39.18 | Antiarc | Heh...where'd you hear that title? |
| 05:39.20 | Antiarc | But yes :) |
| 05:39.24 | Thunder_Child | http://tagteamia.com/team.php |
| 05:39.27 | Antiarc | Yup, that's me. |
| 05:39.36 | Antiarc | Company I'm starting up. |
| 05:39.41 | *** part/#wowi-lounge a-stray-cat (n=chris@c-71-197-86-231.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 05:40.07 | Thunder_Child | "Of course, if there's something broken, that stuff is probably his fault, too." woo hoo, more people to blame things on |
| 05:40.25 | Antiarc | Gonna be launching blippr - our first real potential for income - in closed beta this week :D |
| 05:40.26 | Antiarc | I'm stoked. |
| 05:41.27 | Thunder_Child | i dont have a social network |
| 05:41.31 | Antiarc | Sure you do |
| 05:41.33 | Antiarc | You know me, right? |
| 05:41.36 | Thunder_Child | nope |
| 05:41.37 | Antiarc | So I'm a part of your network |
| 05:41.47 | Antiarc | Social networks extend outside of the "social networking sites" |
| 05:41.53 | Antiarc | They're composed of anyone you know. |
| 05:41.58 | Antiarc | Anyone you're connected to relationally |
| 05:42.01 | Antiarc | Online and off |
| 05:42.02 | Thunder_Child | define know |
| 05:42.29 | Antiarc | Anyone you interact with and have a relationship beyond name recognition with. |
| 05:42.48 | Antiarc | you know I'm a geek, programmer, wow player, college dropout, and geek now :D |
| 05:43.01 | Antiarc | So you know more about me than "Jimmy Two-tones" that you might read about or whatever |
| 05:43.02 | Thunder_Child | and someone who repeats things |
| 05:43.02 | MentalPower | Antiarc: whats your website? |
| 05:43.12 | Thunder_Child | http://tagteamia.com/ |
| 05:43.16 | Thunder_Child | mp ^^ |
| 05:43.19 | MentalPower | Antiarc: for your wow mods |
| 05:43.22 | Antiarc | http://tagteaminteractive.com/ is our company site |
| 05:43.31 | Antiarc | MentalPower: I just use wowace and the occassional curse release |
| 05:43.34 | Antiarc | Because I am le lazy |
| 05:43.39 | Antiarc | I think I have them on wowi too |
| 05:43.44 | Antiarc | But I am le lazy and don't like maintaining them |
| 05:43.45 | MentalPower | http://mail.extreme-gaming.info/ |
| 05:43.58 | Antiarc | MentalPower: I know, that's a mirror someone put up |
| 05:44.06 | Antiarc | See the discussion a few pages up |
| 05:44.42 | MentalPower | I must've missed that part |
| 05:44.51 | MentalPower | thats what he's fuzzing about |
| 05:44.56 | Antiarc | Yes |
| 05:45.06 | Antiarc | Except he's a tard and failed to realize they're on his own machine |
| 05:45.16 | Antiarc | Which probably means his buddy installed them on the box after school or something. |
| 05:45.36 | Thunder_Child | he has friends?? |
| 05:45.50 | Antiarc | I'd assume so, or he has a really bad short-term memory |
| 05:46.18 | MentalPower | wheres the original to that page? |
| 05:46.20 | Thunder_Child | i hope it's #2 |
| 05:46.34 | Antiarc | http://armory.mmo-champion.com is the authoritative install |
| 05:46.56 | Antiarc | They used to be at http://wow.tachyonsix.com/armory but I deprecated that in favor of mmo-champ, because the traffic was saturating my upload bandwidth |
| 05:47.06 | Antiarc | I run tachyonsix off of a whitebox under my desk at home :D |
| 05:47.12 | Antiarc | Off a cable modem connection |
| 05:48.21 | MentalPower | Antiarc: is the source to that website publicly available? |
| 05:48.44 | Thrae | MentalPower: Scroll down? |
| 05:49.21 | MentalPower | oh, duh! |
| 05:49.54 | MentalPower | hehe, so someone downloaded the source and installed it on this guy's machine |
| 05:49.55 | Antiarc | http://svn.digitalsentience.com/svn/armory/ |
| 05:49.57 | MentalPower | cute |
| 05:49.57 | Antiarc | MentalPower: Yes. |
| 05:50.12 | MentalPower | and he blames you |
| 05:50.22 | Antiarc | Yes. |
| 05:50.34 | Antiarc | Because he's too much of a tard to check IPs and DNS and fun things like that. |
| 05:50.46 | Antiarc | Or to understand how the internet works. |
| 05:50.55 | Antiarc | $10 on "13 year-old with a phpBB install" |
| 05:51.09 | MentalPower | that sounds like the people who upgraded to CentOS and then sent hate mail to the CentOS devs because their websites were now replaced with the CentOS "You've installed CentOS correctly" page |
| 05:51.11 | Thrae | Now if your source was porn.php, he would understand it quite well. |
| 05:52.13 | MentalPower | ie, this: http://mirror.centos.org/mirrorscripts/noindex_new.html |
| 05:52.48 | MentalPower | back then the Note: section at the bottom was not there |
| 05:53.17 | Antiarc | Hahahaha |
| 05:53.26 | Antiarc | Man, you really have to love retards like this. |
| 05:53.33 | Antiarc | People dangerous enough to install with a wizard |
| 05:53.36 | MentalPower | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/03/24/tuttle_centos/ |
| 05:53.45 | MentalPower | thats the story |
| 05:53.49 | Antiarc | But incompetent enough to smack themselves in the ass with their eyebrows. |
| 05:54.11 | Thrae | Oh yeah, I remember that one from Snopes, MentalPower. |
| 05:56.37 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Rayne (n=gcittboy@d66-222-203-177.abhsia.telus.net) |
| 05:57.07 | Rayne | Sorry in advanced, ill be making another 'make me hate my UI' thread shortly |
| 05:58.33 | Shirik | bleeter: Fireworks really did come out of my head!!! |
| 06:06.34 | bleeter | Shirik: woot |
| 06:06.40 | bleeter | Shirik: and are you happy? |
| 06:06.55 | Shirik | of course! |
| 06:07.13 | bleeter | Antiarc: that's quite a good fail. If it's in the US, wait for the DCMA takedown notice, then tell the press ;) |
| 06:07.25 | MentalPower | ~praise Shirik |
| 06:07.26 | purl | All hail Shirik! |
| 06:07.32 | Antiarc | bleeter: He's in Queensland, Aus |
| 06:07.38 | Shirik | MentalPower: o.o? |
| 06:07.42 | MentalPower | ~praise batrick |
| 06:07.42 | purl | All hail batrick! |
| 06:07.43 | Antiarc | But I'm in the US so I eagerly await the DMCA notice |
| 06:07.52 | MentalPower | #Lua conversation |
| 06:07.56 | Shirik | haha |
| 06:08.01 | Shirik | I'm getting annoyed at this guy |
| 06:08.20 | MentalPower | me too |
| 06:08.21 | Thrae | MentalPower: Reading down a little further since I'm bored, I found that good 'ol manager of Tuttle used software from http://www.govoffice.com/ to make his websites, of which Tuttle Times says he's made multiple ones. |
| 06:09.14 | batrick | the guys a fucking idiot |
| 06:09.18 | MentalPower | ... |
| 06:10.01 | batrick | --> for i = 1, 10 do print(math.random(0,1)) end |
| 06:10.01 | batbot | batrick: 0 1 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 |
| 06:10.07 | batrick | not random enough guys hur hur |
| 06:10.23 | MentalPower | no! He has 22 years in computer systems engineering and operation. |
| 06:10.40 | Thrae | MentalPower: He owns a Computer Service store in Tuttle. |
| 06:10.40 | Antiarc | 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 <-- perfect distribution! this must mean it's perfectly random, rite? |
| 06:10.49 | batrick | srsly |
| 06:11.08 | Thrae | --> for i = 1,10 do print(math.random(9,9)) end |
| 06:11.08 | batbot | Thrae: 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 |
| 06:11.16 | Thrae | Perfectly random! |
| 06:11.37 | Thrae | That piece of code is part of Blizzard's drop rate percentages. |
| 06:12.02 | Shirik | Heh, batrick took over |
| 06:12.11 | Shirik | I couldn't even think of what to say there |
| 06:12.21 | Shirik | I think my brain cells are dying |
| 06:12.45 | Neebler | !ap 2127 |
| 06:12.45 | ThraeBot | Neebler: Arena points from a rating of 2127 is, 2v2: 914, 3v3: 1058, 5v5: 1202 |
| 06:12.46 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Rayne (n=gcittboy@d66-222-203-177.abhsia.telus.net) |
| 06:13.20 | batrick | i'm tired of seeing him flood the channel with queries to a lua_bot |
| 06:13.39 | batrick | look @ m3 gaiz i'm doin codez lul |
| 06:14.00 | MentalPower | batrick: that be partly my fault |
| 06:14.12 | bleeter | in ur bitez overflowin ur stax |
| 06:14.35 | *** join/#wowi-lounge anko (n=root@207-38-213-123.c3-0.elm-ubr3.qens-elm.ny.cable.rcn.com) |
| 06:14.48 | MentalPower | oh god.. I can't believe this guys just pulled that one |
| 06:15.00 | bleeter | MentalPower: thanks for that, had forgotten the story... makes me chuckle reading it agagin |
| 06:15.04 | bleeter | again |
| 06:15.13 | bleeter | MentalPower: hmm? pulled what? |
| 06:15.22 | MentalPower | #Lua |
| 06:15.48 | bleeter | I already idle in too many #'s hehe |
| 06:16.39 | bleeter | I get kicked from #winehq every now and then for idling too much hehe |
| 06:17.23 | batrick | stop humoring moose |
| 06:20.40 | bleeter | Antiarc: about all I can do in response to your recent experience, is quote hortus at you "Unfortunately, people being jerks is not a bug" (and I read jerks = fuckwits) |
| 06:20.54 | kd3 | whee for being friendly with the GMs on the customer service forum and getting quest text that doesn't appear to be anywhere else on the net |
| 06:21.09 | bleeter | kd3: u sexor |
| 06:21.44 | bleeter | kd3: I'm curious as to why you'd need that.. I guess some hard to get quest or something, that you abandoned? |
| 06:21.53 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Quest:Bang_a_Gong%21&diff=next&oldid=1140546 |
| 06:22.03 | kd3 | none of the database sites had any information at all |
| 06:22.11 | bleeter | ahhhh |
| 06:22.16 | bleeter | yes, hard to get lol |
| 06:22.33 | End | it probably exists in screenshots in several places :P |
| 06:22.51 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Lonny (n=Lonny@bzq-179-108-108.static.bezeqint.net) |
| 06:22.58 | kd3 | I got screenshots for some of the earlier quests (e.g. "The Might of Kalimdor"), but I couldn't find that one anywhere |
| 06:22.59 | bleeter | but but but |
| 06:23.04 | bleeter | that's pixels, not text! :P |
| 06:23.08 | End | if I was in that position, either I'd be taking a billion screenshots, or I wold have been so excited I'd forget :P |
| 06:23.15 | End | would* |
| 06:23.26 | End | text can be rendered as pixels ;-P |
| 06:23.52 | End | therefore, pixels > text |
| 06:25.06 | End | I'm sorry, but shakespear is not located in these pixels |
| 06:25.07 | Thunder_Child | shake?spere |
| 06:25.13 | Thunder_Child | uhhh... |
| 06:25.18 | End | SHAKESPEAR W |
| 06:25.21 | End | LIKE A SPEAR |
| 06:25.22 | Thunder_Child | blast and damnation |
| 06:25.22 | End | kthx |
| 06:25.29 | Tierrie | TC: |
| 06:25.30 | Tierrie | so |
| 06:25.34 | Tierrie | is 3 jacks too much |
| 06:25.35 | MentalPower | Shirik: he's right its 1920bytes Base64 encoded |
| 06:25.36 | Tierrie | or should i have more |
| 06:25.39 | MentalPower | I just decoded it |
| 06:25.50 | Shirik | Yeah actually I believe him now |
| 06:25.54 | Shirik | it doesn't change the fact that he's crazy |
| 06:26.00 | Thunder_Child | Tierrie, jacks? |
| 06:26.05 | Thunder_Child | as in daniels? |
| 06:26.22 | MentalPower | true |
| 06:26.47 | Tierrie | yes |
| 06:26.52 | Thunder_Child | then no |
| 06:27.02 | bleeter | maybe |
| 06:27.04 | Thunder_Child | nothing is to much till you die from it |
| 06:27.15 | Tierrie | good advice |
| 06:29.36 | *** join/#wowi-lounge a59 (n=bac@d2.50.344a.static.theplanet.com) |
| 06:32.24 | batrick | i think moose is crying |
| 06:34.53 | Tierrie | you know the best thing about tonight is the most important decision i have to make is "should i have one more drink" and there's no wrong answer |
| 06:35.05 | MentalPower | batrick: good! |
| 06:41.24 | *** join/#wowi-lounge art3mis (n=art3mis@WoWUIDev/WoWI/HKUI/art3mis) |
| 06:44.30 | MentalPower|ZZzz | gnight all |
| 06:45.26 | batrick | night friend |
| 06:47.29 | Thunder_Child | night MentalPower|ZZzz |
| 06:47.30 | Shirik | night |
| 06:49.11 | Thunder_Child | Tierrie, George Burns said it best "Actually, it only takes one drink to get me loaded. Trouble is, I can't remember if it's the thirteenth or fourteenth. " |
| 06:53.32 | Shirik | purl, thrae hates you |
| 06:54.25 | Shirik | purl, Thrae hates you |
| 06:54.26 | batrick | ~hate thrae |
| 06:54.32 | Shirik | purl, Thrae hates \you |
| 06:54.48 | *** join/#wowi-lounge tedr0ck (n=tedrock@d235-159-75.home1.cgocable.net) |
| 06:54.48 | batrick | purl: hate is <reply> ,,|, |
| 06:54.49 | purl | ...but hate is already something else... |
| 06:54.59 | batrick | purl: no, hate is <reply> ,,|, |
| 06:55.00 | purl | batrick: okay |
| 06:55.07 | batrick | ~hate |
| 06:55.08 | purl | ,,|, |
| 06:55.23 | Shirik | purl, Thrae hates you |
| 06:55.28 | Shirik | grr, why can't I get this to work |
| 06:55.37 | Shirik | (01:54:04) -› [msg: purl]: $nick hates \you is <reply> I hate $nick too! |
| 06:56.23 | Thrae | purl: I hate you. |
| 06:56.23 | purl | You hate you.? |
| 06:56.38 | Shirik | Starting something with "I" triggers a very strange repsonse :P |
| 06:56.40 | Thrae | purl: I hate purl. |
| 06:56.41 | purl | You hate purl.? |
| 06:58.25 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Lonny (n=Lonny@bzq-179-108-108.static.bezeqint.net) |
| 06:58.35 | Thrae | purl: die if hate 'you'; |
| 06:58.36 | purl | ACTION murders if hate 'you';, takes two shots to the head then crumples to the ground, lifeless... |
| 06:59.03 | Thrae | There. I got purl to kill itself. |
| 06:59.12 | Thrae | krag0th|Mac: By the way, how comes the armoury cache? |
| 06:59.24 | Thrae | I got you confused with kergoth, and he was also confused. |
| 06:59.40 | krag0th|Mac | Thrae: I've not had a chance to get much done. Work got demanding the last several weeks |
| 06:59.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Let's not go around killing purl |
| 06:59.45 | ScytheBlade1 | That's not a good thing :/ |
| 06:59.57 | Thrae | purl: die ScytheBlade1 |
| 06:59.58 | purl | ACTION murders ScytheBlade1, takes two shots to the head then crumples to the ground, lifeless... |
| 07:00.00 | krag0th|Mac | purl: die himself |
| 07:00.00 | purl | ACTION murders himself, takes two shots to the head then crumples to the ground, lifeless... |
| 07:00.09 | krag0th|Mac | WIN! |
| 07:00.12 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 07:00.19 | ScytheBlade1 | ~roulette |
| 07:00.20 | purl | ACTION watches scytheblade1 pull the trigger: Click! |
| 07:00.23 | Shirik | purl is a female I thought |
| 07:00.30 | krag0th|Mac | ~wget |
| 07:00.31 | purl | [wget] an excellent file retrieval utility (HTTP and FTP) with many options, or the command `apt-get install wget wget-ssl`, or virtual bacon |
| 07:00.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Who's next? ^^ |
| 07:00.37 | Shirik | ~roulette |
| 07:00.38 | purl | ACTION watches shirik pull the trigger: Click! |
| 07:01.02 | Shirik | virtual bacon? |
| 07:01.27 | batrick | ~roulette |
| 07:01.27 | purl | ACTION watches batrick pull the trigger: Click! |
| 07:01.34 | krag0th|Mac | Thrae: Once the "v2.0" of our shiney new billing system is done (in 2wks) I'll have a lot more time to put into the cacher. I need to fix a few things that I know about. I really need to get trac started on my box for ticketing |
| 07:01.37 | ScytheBlade1 | I think it's Thrae's turn. |
| 07:01.57 | batrick | ccccombo breaker |
| 07:02.03 | Thrae | ~roulette |
| 07:02.03 | purl | ACTION watches thrae pull the trigger: Click! |
| 07:02.05 | krag0th|Mac | REVERSAL! |
| 07:02.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Bah |
| 07:02.14 | krag0th|Mac | ~roulette |
| 07:02.14 | purl | ACTION watches krag0th|mac pull the trigger: Click! |
| 07:02.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Bang |
| 07:02.20 | batrick | purl is slow |
| 07:02.21 | ScytheBlade1 | What? |
| 07:02.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Huh |
| 07:02.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh lol |
| 07:02.33 | krag0th|Mac | purl == infobot? |
| 07:02.35 | Thrae | He's using a 50-chamber gun. |
| 07:02.36 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1's turn! |
| 07:02.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Noooooooooooo |
| 07:02.42 | ScytheBlade1 | purl == blootbot |
| 07:02.47 | Thrae | ~infobot |
| 07:02.48 | purl | thrae, I love abuse, feed me! |
| 07:02.55 | ScytheBlade1 | ~blootbot |
| 07:02.56 | purl | blootbot is probably an IRC bot written in perl descended from infobot. Hosted on SF. Patches welcome, submit on SF or mailto:Tim@Rikers.org, or http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/ , I am a blootbot |
| 07:02.56 | krag0th|Mac | !feed |
| 07:03.01 | krag0th|Mac | ~feed |
| 07:03.01 | purl | ACTION cooks <target> a succulent, tender, slightly moist steak |
| 07:03.02 | Thrae | There's also another instance of purl called "infobot" |
| 07:03.07 | krag0th|Mac | lol |
| 07:03.15 | krag0th|Mac | Ahh |
| 07:03.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh screw it |
| 07:03.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Night all |
| 07:03.25 | ScytheBlade1 | ~roulette |
| 07:03.25 | purl | ACTION watches scytheblade1 pull the trigger: BANG! |
| 07:03.28 | batrick | --> function roulette() if math.random(1,6) == 6 print "bang" else print"click" end end roulette() |
| 07:03.28 | batbot | batrick: > [string "0"]:1: 'then' expected near 'print' |
| 07:03.32 | krag0th|Mac | Cause that bacon stuff added is from wh's infobotness :) |
| 07:03.44 | batrick | --> function roulette() if math.random(1,6) == 6 then print "bang" else print"click" end end roulette() |
| 07:03.44 | batbot | batrick: click |
| 07:03.45 | krag0th|Mac | lol |
| 07:03.51 | batrick | there |
| 07:03.53 | Shirik | --> roulette() |
| 07:03.53 | batbot | Shirik: click |
| 07:04.40 | krag0th|Mac | --> function moo() print "Moo!" end moo() |
| 07:04.40 | batbot | krag0th|Mac: Moo! |
| 07:04.44 | krag0th|Mac | ^-^ |
| 07:04.48 | nevcairiel | --> roulette() |
| 07:04.48 | batbot | nevcairiel: click |
| 07:04.52 | krag0th|Mac | --> moo() |
| 07:04.52 | batbot | krag0th|Mac: Moo! |
| 07:04.54 | nevcairiel | \o/ |
| 07:05.18 | krag0th|Mac | I wonder if there's fun things I can do |
| 07:05.29 | batrick | i got purl and batbot to have a nice conversation once |
| 07:05.32 | batrick | go try it |
| 07:05.42 | nevcairiel | better dont |
| 07:05.43 | Lonny | haha :D |
| 07:06.11 | Thunder_Child | batrick, wth is ~hate supposed to be? |
| 07:06.18 | krag0th|Mac | ~love |
| 07:06.19 | purl | BABY DON'T HURT ME, DON'T HURT ME, NO MORE |
| 07:06.24 | batrick | ~hate |
| 07:06.25 | purl | ,,|, |
| 07:06.25 | krag0th|Mac | LOL |
| 07:06.32 | batrick | i thought it was pretty obvious! |
| 07:06.38 | Thunder_Child | people have 5 fingers if thats what your tikning |
| 07:06.42 | Thunder_Child | thinking* |
| 07:06.46 | Thunder_Child | not 4 |
| 07:06.55 | krag0th|Mac | He's one of those 4-fingered cartoon characters |
| 07:06.55 | batrick | purl has no thumbs silly |
| 07:06.57 | Thrae | --> for i = 1,math.random(1000,100000) do getglobal("foo" .. i) = function() print(i) end end |
| 07:06.57 | batbot | Thrae: > [string "0"]:1: unexpected symbol near '=' |
| 07:07.12 | krag0th|Mac | How are you suppose to unroll loops without thumbs? |
| 07:08.04 | krag0th|Mac | Oh Oh! Can I while true print "I'm true!"? |
| 07:08.17 | batrick | sure |
| 07:08.23 | krag0th|Mac | lol |
| 07:08.23 | Thrae | --> for i = 1,math.random(1000,100000) do _G["foo" .. i] = function() print(i) end end |
| 07:08.34 | krag0th|Mac | I figured you'd have recursion traps |
| 07:08.43 | Thrae | Shouldn't the sandbox give an error? |
| 07:08.54 | batrick | no? |
| 07:09.00 | krag0th|Mac | --> print "I'm a little teapot short an stout" |
| 07:09.00 | batbot | krag0th|Mac: I'm a little teapot short an stout |
| 07:09.05 | batrick | --> collectgarbage"count" |
| 07:09.08 | batbot | batrick: > 11161.127929688 |
| 07:09.26 | krag0th|Mac | --> moo |
| 07:09.30 | batbot | krag0th|Mac: > function: 0x81d9cd0 |
| 07:09.30 | Shirik | --> collectgarbage"collect" |
| 07:09.30 | batbot | Shirik: > 0 |
| 07:09.33 | Shirik | --> collectgarbage"count" |
| 07:09.37 | batbot | Shirik: > 10263.615234375 |
| 07:09.42 | Shirik | wtf do you have loaded in there.. |
| 07:09.45 | krag0th|Mac | A minor improvement |
| 07:10.04 | batrick | --> it's probably lua task's fault |
| 07:10.07 | batbot | batrick: > [string "0"]:1: '=' expected near 'fault' |
| 07:10.08 | batrick | whoops |
| 07:10.08 | batrick | lol |
| 07:10.13 | krag0th|Mac | LOL |
| 07:10.29 | krag0th|Mac | --> function nub() print "D'Oh!" end nub() |
| 07:10.30 | batbot | krag0th|Mac: D'Oh! |
| 07:10.30 | batrick | actually it's Thrae's fault |
| 07:10.36 | krag0th|Mac | ;D |
| 07:10.37 | batrick | --> newenv() |
| 07:10.37 | batbot | batrick: > creating new environment |
| 07:10.42 | krag0th|Mac | :[ |
| 07:10.44 | batrick | --> collectgarbage"count" |
| 07:10.45 | batbot | batrick: > 10280.008789062 |
| 07:10.47 | batrick | nvm |
| 07:11.07 | krag0th|Mac | This is quite a handy little tool :D |
| 07:11.13 | krag0th|Mac | I will have to find uses for it |
| 07:11.15 | Shirik | 10MB is pretty huge for something that isn't entirely complex |
| 07:12.01 | Thrae | --> local bar; foo = function() bar() newenv() end; bar = function() newenv() foo() end; bar() |
| 07:12.03 | batbot | Thrae: > [string "0"]:1: creating new environment |
| 07:12.03 | krag0th|Mac | But for now~ It's time to sleep(60 * 60 * 6); |
| 07:12.35 | Thrae | --> local bar; foo = function() bar() collectgarbage("count") end; bar = function() collectgarbage("collect") foo() end; bar() |
| 07:12.38 | batbot | Thrae: > ./sandbox.lua:119: stack overflow |
| 07:12.40 | batrick | Shirik: luatask may modified some stuff |
| 07:12.45 | Shirik | perhaps |
| 07:12.56 | batrick | the irc client itself does have a lot of information stored |
| 07:12.59 | Thrae | --> local bar; foo = function() bar() end; bar = function() foo() end; bar(); print "Done!" |
| 07:12.59 | batbot | Thrae: > [string "0"]:1: stack overflow |
| 07:13.09 | batrick | e.g. 150 last messages from everyone |
| 07:14.13 | batrick | !quote shirik grand |
| 07:14.18 | batrick | wow |
| 07:14.21 | Shirik | gg. |
| 07:14.33 | Shirik | I need to remember that one |
| 07:14.42 | batrick | lmao |
| 07:16.25 | Thrae | Shirik: I told you that you shouldn't be playing with it |
| 07:16.56 | Shirik | holy crap |
| 07:17.02 | Shirik | CIA-32 just reported a commit to conspiracy |
| 07:17.04 | Shirik | from Cidan |
| 07:17.14 | Shirik | Either it's like 5 years behind or he came out of hiding |
| 07:17.24 | Shirik | The former of which I wouldn't be entirely surprised by |
| 07:17.49 | Thrae | Shirik: Odd, not in any channels I saw |
| 07:17.59 | Shirik | That's because he only reports it to #conspiracy :P |
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| 07:18.15 | nevcairiel | Shirik: cant you check the revision id and see from when it was ? :P |
| 07:18.18 | Thrae | Maybe it's a Conspiracy...by the CIA...bot |
| 07:19.03 | Shirik | Error: Your .svn/tmp directory may be missing or corrupt; run 'svn cleanup' and try again |
| 07:19.03 | Shirik | Error: Can't open file 'D:\Program Files (x86)\World of Warcraft\Interface\Addons\.svn\tmp\entries': The system cannot find the path specified. |
| 07:19.05 | Shirik | -_- |
| 07:19.36 | Shirik | Oh I like this error! |
| 07:19.39 | Shirik | I did an svn cleanup |
| 07:19.51 | Shirik | and it says "An error occurred while performing cleanup. Run 'svn cleanup' and try again." |
| 07:20.24 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 07:20.32 | nevcairiel | fresh checkout time! |
| 07:20.38 | Shirik | I think I have changes to commit though... |
| 07:20.59 | batrick | i think i found a bug in lua |
| 07:21.01 | Shirik | oh lol |
| 07:21.19 | Thrae | Shirik: Sounds like apt-get logic to me. "> apt-get" "You do not have apt-get installed. Run apt-get apt to fix this problem." "> apt-get update" "There are some broken or missing dependencies. Run apt-get update to resolve this problem." |
| 07:21.21 | Shirik | the only change is -- ## Interface: 20100 ++ ## Interface: 20300 |
| 07:21.34 | Shirik | Thrae: lol, I got that a while ago |
| 07:22.11 | batrick | apparently the string library recognizes \0 as the end of a string |
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| 07:22.23 | nevcairiel | Shirik: you has ops, you can validate my uploadz? :P |
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| 07:22.35 | batrick | return string.lower("hi\0UR") |
| 07:22.42 | batrick | that returns "hi" |
| 07:22.57 | nevcairiel | thats probably because it uses C strings |
| 07:23.00 | nevcairiel | *shrug |
| 07:23.00 | Shirik | I refuse to approve it |
| 07:23.00 | batrick | anybody know if that's intended? |
| 07:23.11 | Shirik | batrick: Not necessarily what they want, but it is mentioned, yes |
| 07:23.26 | batrick | where is it mentioned? |
| 07:23.32 | Shirik | nevcairiel: done |
| 07:23.40 | batrick | i don't see it in the documentation |
| 07:23.42 | Shirik | batrick: It's hidden away :P |
| 07:23.45 | nevcairiel | thanks |
| 07:23.54 | Thrae | Shirik: Of course, TortoiseSVN has the best error messages. I had Windows accidentially trying to cache the entire contents of my server (stupid XP Pro defaults), so my hard drive was full without me knowing. TortoiseSVN attempted to update a folder and gave the error dialog -- Title: "Error" Message: "No error." |
| 07:23.56 | batrick | o |
| 07:23.59 | batrick | use %z instead |
| 07:24.09 | batrick | but that still doesn't explain string.lower |
| 07:24.48 | Shirik | You could probably do this |
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| 07:25.09 | batrick | hi |
| 07:25.12 | batrick | !quote batrick |
| 07:25.17 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 07:25.17 | batrick | damn it |
| 07:25.30 | Shirik | lua> return loadstring("return " .. string.lower(string.format("%q", "hi\0UR")))() |
| 07:25.33 | lua_bot | Shirik: hi |
| 07:25.35 | Shirik | damn it! |
| 07:25.38 | Shirik | die die die |
| 07:25.53 | nevcairiel | lua> "hi\0UR" |
| 07:25.55 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: hi |
| 07:26.00 | Shirik | oh |
| 07:26.02 | nevcairiel | thats problaby not a function thing |
| 07:26.04 | nevcairiel | but a general string thing |
| 07:26.27 | nevcairiel | oooor, IRC ends at \0 too |
| 07:26.49 | Shirik | lua> return string.lower(string.format("%q", "hi\0UR")) |
| 07:26.51 | lua_bot | Shirik: "hi\000ur" |
| 07:26.59 | Shirik | the problem comes when printing it out :P |
| 07:27.22 | Shirik | lua> string.format("%q", string.lower("hi\0UR")) |
| 07:27.25 | lua_bot | Shirik: "hi\000ur", |
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| 07:27.27 | Shirik | there you go batrick |
| 07:27.30 | Shirik | It's not string.lower having the problem |
| 07:27.33 | Corrodias | lua> return "hi\\0UR" |
| 07:27.33 | lua_bot | Corrodias: hi\0UR |
| 07:27.45 | Shirik | as you can see, string.lower is handling it fine :) |
| 07:27.57 | Corrodias | the string.lower looks like the bug to me |
| 07:28.04 | Shirik | as you can see above, it's not |
| 07:28.06 | Corrodias | but i work with languages that consider null the end of a string :( |
| 07:28.14 | Corrodias | apparently you don't expect the same for Lua |
| 07:28.18 | Shirik | oh, you mean it shouldn't keep going after the \0? |
| 07:28.26 | Shirik | No Lua accepts nulls in a string |
| 07:28.36 | nevcairiel | I dont know if it should, but i wouldnt use \0 in a string myself |
| 07:28.36 | Corrodias | but how can it be a string? |
| 07:28.39 | Shirik | They have functions explicitly designed to handle them |
| 07:28.39 | batrick | !quote shirik bat |
| 07:28.39 | batbot | batrick, shirik said: "there you go batrick". |
| 07:28.41 | batrick | \o/ |
| 07:28.53 | Shirik | !quote shirik fi9ouwaofeiua |
| 07:28.55 | batbot | Shirik, shirik has not said anything with your given pattern. |
| 07:28.57 | batrick | --> collectgarbage"count" |
| 07:28.57 | batbot | batrick: > 85.8916015625 |
| 07:28.57 | Corrodias | having a null in the middle of a string is like having a socket connection in the middle of a string |
| 07:29.00 | Corrodias | it doesn't make any sense |
| 07:29.03 | batrick | see shiirk now it's small :D |
| 07:29.13 | Shirik | Corrodias: It's just an array of characters |
| 07:29.23 | Shirik | and a character is just 8 bits |
| 07:29.37 | Shirik | It may not mean much to a human, but to a computer it's just another character |
| 07:29.38 | Corrodias | i'm talking about a more abstract view of what a string is |
| 07:29.45 | Corrodias | there is no "null" letter |
| 07:29.53 | Shirik | according to the ASCII table there is :) |
| 07:30.16 | batrick | --> string.find("hi\0u", "u") |
| 07:30.17 | batbot | batrick: > 4, 4 |
| 07:30.19 | Corrodias | i don't know if you are unable to understand me or if you are refusing to understand me |
| 07:30.23 | Shirik | !quote shirik ( |
| 07:30.26 | Shirik | I win |
| 07:30.27 | nevcairiel | there is no "bell" character either, or did you see a char that causes you to do a small sound? |
| 07:30.30 | Shirik | I thought that would happen |
| 07:30.36 | batrick | lul |
| 07:31.04 | Thrae | Hmmm, Doom 3 is from 2004....OK, I can stop wondering why John Carmack is so keen about Doom 3 not needing a 64-bit binary, considering its engine has a 64-bit version. Still, you think he'd do it just to sell it more. |
| 07:31.22 | Shirik | Corrodias: Perhaps we're just seeing it from two different angles |
| 07:31.27 | nevcairiel | is it really that old already? |
| 07:31.32 | Shirik | I'm used to working very low-level, so I see things at the bit level |
| 07:31.40 | Shirik | Most software engineers are more accustomed to seeing things at a very high level |
| 07:31.42 | Thrae | nevcairiel: Just google'd "Doom 3 release date", yep |
| 07:31.44 | Corrodias | i fully understand that an array of characters can have a null in the middle |
| 07:32.00 | Corrodias | but i doesn't make functional sense to try to work with a sentence including non-letter data |
| 07:32.11 | Thrae | nevcairiel: All it has going for it is dual core optimization right now |
| 07:32.18 | Corrodias | once it gets to that point, why is it a string any more, rather than a character array? |
| 07:32.29 | nevcairiel | its not, thats the point :D |
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| 07:32.47 | Shirik | Many languages actually do not have a concept of a "string", C included |
| 07:32.50 | Thrae | nevcairiel: Didn't one of the patches add it in? Lemme check |
| 07:33.13 | Shirik | In C you don't make a string, you make an array of characters. The "string" is actually just the address of the first character in the array. |
| 07:34.08 | nevcairiel | Thrae: wasnt responding to you, i never liked Doom3 in multi player, and single player i finished it a long time ago .. so *shrug :D |
| 07:34.08 | Shirik | In C++ they actually made a "string" class, but it's shit. So I still use char*s |
| 07:34.08 | Thrae | nevcairiel: I just got introduced to the game from work :D |
| 07:34.12 | batrick | 64 bit ints remove the need for null terminated strings imo |
| 07:34.16 | Corrodias | yeah, at work, we use these Borland classes. included is AnsiString, which is actually a decent string class |
| 07:34.34 | Thrae | And it seems Q4 has a suped-up Doom 3 engine, but they won't retro-fit |
| 07:34.38 | Shirik | Someone got mad at me the other day actually |
| 07:34.42 | Shirik | because I used an unsigned char** |
| 07:34.51 | Shirik | And they looked at me like "what the hell is this double star thingy" |
| 07:34.57 | Corrodias | hah |
| 07:34.58 | Shirik | And I was like "go back to Java" |
| 07:35.01 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 07:35.03 | Lonny | lol |
| 07:35.17 | Shirik | I tried to justify to him why I needed a pointer to a pointer |
| 07:35.21 | Shirik | he didn't believe me |
| 07:35.22 | nevcairiel | double or tripple chars confuse the hell out of non-C devs |
| 07:35.54 | nevcairiel | er *stars not chars |
| 07:36.23 | Shirik | This is why I love C++. It provides all the OOP that I need while letting me be very low level :) |
| 07:36.46 | Shirik | Yes, I said it |
| 07:36.53 | Shirik | C++ is good. It is decent. It has purpose! |
| 07:37.08 | Shirik | It's also the only OOP language I'm allowed to use :P |
| 07:37.08 | batrick | c++ is an abortion |
| 07:37.34 | Thrae | unsigned char** a; unsigned long** b; a = b; <-- this is what people fear about C/C++ |
| 07:38.25 | Shirik | That's illegal in C++ |
| 07:38.34 | Shirik | Though I think it's valid in C |
| 07:38.35 | Lonny | Well most people actually don't understand it ask the VB guys they will tell you |
| 07:38.43 | batrick | wow |
| 07:38.50 | Thrae | Shouldn't be unless you turn on -Wall |
| 07:39.03 | Shirik | Shouldn't be legal or illegal? |
| 07:39.10 | nevcairiel | if you care about your programm, you do turn on -Wall :P |
| 07:39.13 | batrick | i don't think it's illegal in c++ |
| 07:39.17 | Shirik | It should be |
| 07:39.20 | Shirik | I'll go double check |
| 07:39.24 | Thrae | They're both just pointers |
| 07:39.31 | Shirik | But they're not pointers to the same type |
| 07:39.37 | Shirik | that's one of the more-strict things about C++ |
| 07:39.44 | batrick | sif |
| 07:39.56 | Shirik | ~wtf sif |
| 07:40.01 | Thrae | Throw in a new statement for a |
| 07:40.08 | batrick | !g sif urban |
| 07:40.09 | batbot | batrick: Urban Dictionary: sif <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sif> |
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| 07:41.10 | Shirik | 1>c:\users\mpdelbuono\documents\code\vocal\server\src\vocalserver.cpp(38) : error C2440: '=' : cannot convert from 'unsigned long **' to 'unsigned char **' |
| 07:41.11 | Shirik | 1> Types pointed to are unrelated; conversion requires reinterpret_cast, C-style cast or function-style cast |
| 07:41.14 | Lonny | I almost sure it's not valid |
| 07:42.01 | Shirik | now let's see extern "C" :P |
| 07:42.48 | batrick | no that's stupid |
| 07:43.11 | Shirik | Oh wait that just changes the linker setup : |
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| 07:43.27 | Shirik | well linking specification |
| 07:43.40 | batrick | for fucks sake. |
| 07:43.44 | batrick | moose is at it again |
| 07:43.54 | Shirik | Okay, I moved it to a C file |
| 07:43.55 | Shirik | got this |
| 07:43.57 | Shirik | 1>c:\users\mpdelbuono\documents\code\vocal\server\src\lua\lapi.c(52) : warning C4133: '=' : incompatible types - from 'unsigned long **' to 'unsigned char **' |
| 07:44.05 | Lonny | lol |
| 07:44.10 | Shirik | So it's legal in C but illegal in C++ like I thought |
| 07:44.14 | Lonny | Now move to ASM |
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| 07:44.40 | Shirik | batrick: Where? |
| 07:44.48 | Shirik | Oh now he's complaining about the lua bot |
| 07:44.48 | Shirik | haha |
| 07:45.00 | Corrodias | batrick called shirik a fattie? |
| 07:45.01 | Rayne | Hey guys, quick question with Pitbull. |
| 07:45.17 | batrick | see the second definition Corrodias |
| 07:45.19 | Corrodias | that's only a warning, man |
| 07:45.25 | Corrodias | it should compile just fine |
| 07:45.28 | Shirik | Corrodias: Yeah that second one is in C |
| 07:45.34 | Shirik | Scroll up for the C++ one, that was an error |
| 07:45.39 | Corrodias | oh, i see |
| 07:45.49 | batrick | sif = "as if" |
| 07:46.22 | batrick | i don't care what the pedophiles on myspace use it for |
| 07:46.22 | Rayne | Is it possible to change the PitBull leader and Master Looter markings to text, so it would show up like (L) and (ML) ? |
| 07:46.22 | Corrodias | why abbreviate it that way? that's a bad one. |
| 07:46.22 | batrick | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:46.35 | Shirik | Anyway Corrodias, it's just that C++ cares more about what you're talking about. Even if they were the same size, if they aren't the same thing it won't let you do it without an explicit cast |
| 07:46.44 | Corrodias | it's like some valley girl was going to crank up her attitude and say "puh, as IF" |
| 07:46.50 | Shirik | I CAN legally do something like a = (unsigned char**)b; |
| 07:46.54 | Corrodias | but got stuck and only got out the second half |
| 07:46.55 | Shirik | It's unsafe, but I can do it. |
| 07:47.17 | Corrodias | as her throat bends forward like a donkey, choking on the words: "..grrgrh..SIF" |
| 07:47.28 | Shirik | C++ even requires you to be explicit when casting from and to void*s |
| 07:47.58 | Corrodias | oh, cool, at least it still allows it, then. :o |
| 07:47.58 | batrick | i'm usually always explicity casting shit in C, save myself headache later |
| 07:48.18 | Shirik | And when worse comes to worse, reinterpret_cast lets you do anything |
| 07:48.29 | Shirik | I'll probably shoot anyone that uses it, but it lets you do anything |
| 07:48.40 | Corrodias | not familiar with that flag |
| 07:48.54 | Shirik | foo = reinterpret_cast<int>(bar) |
| 07:48.57 | Shirik | where foo is an int |
| 07:49.01 | Shirik | and bar is not an int |
| 07:49.14 | Shirik | bar can be any type and it will let you do it. It's a horrible idea in 99% of cases, but legal. |
| 07:49.17 | Lonny | generics I believe |
| 07:49.23 | Corrodias | cool |
| 07:49.32 | nevcairiel | wonder how my struct would look as a int |
| 07:49.45 | Shirik | it would take the first sizeof(int) bytes and use it :P |
| 07:49.51 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 07:49.59 | Shirik | That's literally why they called it reinterpret_cast, because it reinterprets the bytes |
| 07:50.24 | Lonny | It's useful fo collections and such avoiding the hassle of boxing and overheads |
| 07:50.27 | Lonny | for* |
| 07:50.28 | Corrodias | i'm going to totally start using that all over the place |
| 07:50.49 | Corrodias | well, would, if i really understood the point |
| 07:50.51 | Shirik | Every time I see it in code, I will kill a kitten |
| 07:51.17 | Corrodias | do you work on veterinary practive management software in wisconsin? >_> |
| 07:51.23 | Shirik | lol |
| 07:51.30 | Corrodias | if not, the kittens will be safe :D |
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| 07:52.00 | Shirik | The lady below me has tons of kittens I can kill |
| 07:52.16 | Corrodias | man, they should totally let us make our trolls stand up straight in WotLK |
| 07:52.27 | batrick | real men write their oos in C |
| 07:52.44 | Shirik | oos |
| 07:52.53 | Shirik | It's like oop, but 3 steps above |
| 07:53.32 | Shirik | See, there's a valid use for reinterpret_cast! .... actually I guess it would work with static cast |
| 07:54.22 | Shirik | foo = new char[5]; strcpy(foo, " oop"); ++*(reinterpret_cast<long*>(foo)); |
| 07:54.33 | Shirik | I think this should output "oos" |
| 07:54.48 | Shirik | iiosue |
| 07:54.50 | Shirik | oopsie |
| 07:54.54 | Shirik | but I meant +3, not +1 |
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| 07:56.49 | Lonny | What language would you use as an hostable for an application to your engine, Python, Lua or Ruby ? in my case execute IL instructions directly for debugging |
| 07:56.55 | Shirik | oh, grr, it didn't work because I forgot about big-endianness |
| 07:57.07 | Shirik | stupid intel! |
| 07:57.12 | Lonny | haha |
| 07:57.21 | Shirik | And this is why interpret_cast is evil btw |
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| 07:58.19 | Shirik | Lonny: I'm not sure I understand your question |
| 07:59.13 | Shirik | "Welcome to our newest member, asdfasdfasdfasdf" |
| 07:59.15 | Shirik | o_O |
| 07:59.15 | Lonny | In short if you asked to build a program that you need an hostable language what would you use ? |
| 07:59.31 | Lonny | a hostable* |
| 07:59.56 | nevcairiel | Personally, Lua |
| 08:00.08 | Lonny | Why not Python ? |
| 08:00.08 | Shirik | I guess I don't know what a "hostable language" is :/ |
| 08:00.27 | Lonny | LUA, Python, Ruby are a hostable languages |
| 08:00.28 | krka_ | Lonny: Lua is not an acronym. It is a Portuguese word that means moon. |
| 08:00.30 | nevcairiel | Its just personal preference, i dont like Lua |
| 08:00.35 | nevcairiel | er |
| 08:00.38 | nevcairiel | i dont like Python |
| 08:00.40 | Lonny | I know mate |
| 08:00.41 | Shirik | Well you told me that :P |
| 08:00.47 | Shirik | What MAKES it a hostable language? |
| 08:00.55 | Shirik | It runs inside another application? |
| 08:01.11 | nevcairiel | He probably means that |
| 08:01.17 | Lonny | Yeah pretty much much but you can also define them as VHLL |
| 08:01.25 | Shirik | Okay, then I like Lua because Lua is a piece of cake to embed |
| 08:01.42 | Shirik | Like literally I remember trying to figure it out for a program I was working on that we decided we wanted to incorporate Lua into |
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| 08:01.53 | Shirik | it took me 10 minutes of reading a manual to get a simple "hello world" Lua script running in it |
| 08:02.07 | Shirik | It wasn't very safe at the time, but it worked |
| 08:02.08 | Lonny | Ah nice |
| 08:02.24 | Shirik | There aren't very many operations in the Lua backend, it's a fairly simple concept |
| 08:02.44 | Shirik | If you know how to push and pull from a stack you can use Lua |
| 08:02.57 | Shirik | And yes, I call it pull, and you all can kill me for not saying "pop" |
| 08:03.07 | Lonny | haha |
| 08:03.13 | Shirik | Blame Motorola |
| 08:03.15 | Shirik | it's their opcodes |
| 08:03.25 | Lonny | more english less instructions haha |
| 08:04.25 | Lonny | I don't know Ruby much but I'll pass and read more about Lua and Python though I used Lua for few years now myself :P |
| 08:05.23 | Shirik | I don't know much Python, but everything I have been told is that Lua provides its functionality while remaining small and simple, and much more easy to embed |
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| 08:07.18 | Shirik | I think there's a lua-users wiki article on this |
| 08:07.30 | batrick | ya |
| 08:07.56 | batrick | !g lua vs python site:lua-users.org |
| 08:07.57 | batbot | batrick: lua-users wiki: Lua Versus Python <http://lua-users.org/wiki/LuaVersusPython> |
| 08:08.15 | Shirik | http://lua-users.org/wiki/LuaVersusPython |
| 08:08.18 | Shirik | =( |
| 08:08.18 | Shirik | fine |
| 08:08.25 | Lonny | Yeah it runs fasters and easy to embed, with python is a bit "tedious" but nothing that can't be resolved, the question is how common and documented these two ? |
| 08:08.36 | Lonny | run faster* |
| 08:09.38 | Lonny | Besides the program is used for developers anyway so the language itself isn't an issue |
| 08:10.53 | Lonny | I think I'll go with Lua but I don't know why I have doubts haha I'll just read :P |
| 08:11.49 | Shirik | warning C4996: 'getch': The POSIX name for this item is deprecated. Instead, use the ISO C++ conformant name: _getch. See online help for details. |
| 08:11.56 | Shirik | Are they serious? The correct name is _getch() ? |
| 08:12.53 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 08:13.48 | Shirik | The _ preceding the name would imply it shouldn't be used, right? That's my naming convention, at least. If it starts with a _, it's for internal use |
| 08:14.22 | nevcairiel | you might think that, but i guess the ISO is thinking different |
| 08:14.24 | Lonny | Yeah it should be |
| 08:14.33 | nevcairiel | or, they just dont want you to use it at all |
| 08:16.16 | Shirik | I dunno, I tend to ignore C4996 |
| 08:16.21 | Shirik | they're usually stupid things |
| 08:16.43 | Shirik | it's usually Microsoft thinking they're smarter than me |
| 08:16.55 | Lonny | lol |
| 08:17.25 | Shirik | Like 1>c:\users\mpdelbuono\documents\code\vocal\server\src\tcpio.cpp(20) : warning C4996: 'sprintf': This function or variable may be unsafe. Consider using sprintf_s instead. To disable deprecation, use _CRT_SECURE_NO_WARNINGS. See online help for details. |
| 08:17.43 | Shirik | I know how to check my damn bounds |
| 08:18.12 | Lonny | MS usually break their own naming convention and patterns they tell the developers to follow |
| 08:18.28 | batrick | Shirik: i think they're referring to thread safety not security |
| 08:18.38 | Shirik | Oh no, the MSDN makes it quite clear they're referring to security |
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| 08:19.25 | Shirik | "Using sprintf, there is no way to limit the number of characters written, which means that code using sprintf is susceptible to buffer overruns. Consider using the related function _snprintf, which specifies a maximum number of characters to be written to buffer, or use _scprintf to determine how large a buffer is required. Also, ensure that format is not a user-defined string." |
| 08:21.35 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: ping |
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| 08:31.23 | Shirik | Have you guys seen these screenshots of wotlk on wow's site? |
| 08:31.27 | Shirik | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/wrath/screenshot.xml?s=2 |
| 08:31.39 | Shirik | That's some good quality if that's really a screenshot |
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| 08:33.53 | Rayne | tickle pickel. |
| 08:35.27 | kd3 | I wanna say photoshopped |
| 08:35.32 | kd3 | pretty strenuously |
| 08:35.38 | Shirik | Hold up, a 777 crash landed a few days ago? |
| 08:35.42 | Shirik | I need to watch the news more |
| 08:36.00 | kd3 | "crash". both engines failed on final |
| 08:36.21 | Shirik | Hm, that's not what I'm reading |
| 08:36.46 | Shirik | It says they failed to respond to an increase thrust demand |
| 08:36.52 | Shirik | not that they all-out failed |
| 08:36.57 | Rayne | Im so happy Northrend is going to be mostly snow areas. |
| 08:37.19 | Rayne | Seeing as Dun M. and Winterspring are the only cold areas in the game. :/ |
| 08:37.20 | Shirik | Which is actually very odd. It shouldn't happen. |
| 08:37.51 | kd3 | I'm just waiting before the official report before I start looking into it. it's not like the media ever gets the details right |
| 08:37.58 | Shirik | Probably correct |
| 08:38.09 | Shirik | But even so, both engines shouldn't fail at the same time if that were to happen either |
| 08:38.25 | Shirik | The only thing that makes sense in my mind right now is a software glitch, really |
| 08:39.02 | Shirik | Triple redundancy should take care of a hardware problem that would cause the engines not to thrust up, and both engines just outright failing just doesn't make sense |
| 08:39.21 | Shirik | Oh well, my school will surely be talking about this for the next few days |
| 08:39.23 | Shirik | I'll catch up on it |
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| 08:56.21 | Wobin | I have to say that screen shot looks more like concept art than an ingame image |
| 08:56.56 | Shirik | That's what I think |
| 08:56.58 | Shirik | but it does say "screenshot" |
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| 08:57.39 | kd3 | unless they're using pixar's render farm I'd be beyond shocked if that wasn't a photoshop job |
| 09:00.31 | Shirik | Wikipedia is an absolutely wonderful wealth of knowledge :D |
| 09:00.49 | Shirik | I love how you can just get caught up forever clicking on links, even on things you thought you knew everything about |
| 09:01.09 | clad|away | tabbed browsing + wikipedia == the devil |
| 09:01.09 | clad|away | :P |
| 09:01.31 | Shirik | Like I knew about BA2932, but I didn't know TCAS II would have prevented the collision... kinda sucks |
| 09:01.48 | Shirik | BA2937* |
| 09:04.38 | Shirik | Hm I think Wikipedia's wrong actually. Now that I do some research, TCAS II should have been in existence at the time of that collision... but it was the CAUSE of the collision. TCAS III would have avoided it. |
| 09:04.42 | Shirik | Maybe I should fix that |
| 09:05.00 | kd3 | heh. the internet lawyers are out in force in the CS forum tonight |
| 09:06.30 | Corrodias | counterstrike?? |
| 09:07.09 | Shirik | customer service :P |
| 09:08.39 | Shirik | Yes you are so right about this. however one loop hole to this statement is on the TOA. that even those in China agree too when excepting them they are then held liable by US standards. this is where it comes into play. |
| 09:08.48 | Shirik | Someone who can't write english I won't trust to do my legal work |
| 09:08.49 | Shirik | sorry |
| 09:08.52 | Shirik | ACCEPTING |
| 09:09.06 | Shirik | Why is it so hard to understand the difference between words that have no relation to each other except that they sound alike |
| 09:09.31 | Antiarc | Shirik: Their's were your wrong. |
| 09:09.37 | Shirik | Die |
| 09:09.45 | kd3 | ahaha |
| 09:09.50 | Corrodias | my deer, you are cleanly obfuscated. you should cheque the fax. |
| 09:10.05 | Shirik | Do people actually call it "cheque" ? |
| 09:10.12 | Antiarc | The brits do |
| 09:10.13 | Shirik | I call them checks |
| 09:10.41 | kd3 | I only spell it cheque when I'm talking about a cashier's cheque. my checkbook is full of regular checks, though |
| 09:10.44 | Corrodias | i've never tried to type a word referring to a restaurant bill, nor one referring to a bank note like that |
| 09:11.04 | Corrodias | i imagine i'd type cheque in the former and check in the latter |
| 09:12.25 | Shirik | Looking at my checkbook atm |
| 09:12.27 | Shirik | it says |
| 09:12.44 | Shirik | "Padlock design is a certification mark of Check Payment Systems Association" |
| 09:12.59 | Shirik | So I hereby declare the correct spelling "check" |
| 09:13.10 | Shirik | And since the US is always right (or we'll bomb you), I'm right. |
| 09:14.04 | Corrodias | that makes sense. i agree. |
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| 09:17.13 | Corrodias | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1200905856067.jpg |
| 09:23.32 | batrick | no that's stupid |
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| 09:30.29 | Shirik | batrick: It is the way Bush taught us |
| 09:30.32 | Shirik | isn't he a genius? |
| 09:30.39 | batrick | no that's stupi |
| 09:30.40 | Shirik | I do hope you're catching my sarcasm right now |
| 09:30.40 | batrick | d |
| 09:30.56 | batrick | ~batrick |
| 09:31.02 | batrick | ~hate |
| 09:31.03 | purl | ,,|, |
| 09:31.11 | Shirik | purl, say ~hate |
| 09:31.12 | purl | ~hate |
| 09:31.20 | Shirik | hm, purl doesn't respond to herself |
| 09:31.21 | Shirik | boo |
| 09:31.39 | batrick | ~hate shirik |
| 09:31.48 | Shirik | purl, literal hate |
| 09:31.49 | purl | "hate" is "<reply> ,,|," |
| 09:31.57 | batrick | purl needs 2 learn to ignore args imo |
| 09:31.58 | kd3 | probably not. the ircd doesn't echo her own responses back to her |
| 09:32.20 | Shirik | purl, hate $nick is <reply> Hey $nick, ,,|, |
| 09:32.20 | purl | Shirik: okay |
| 09:32.33 | Shirik | Does purl have like, backwards hands or something? |
| 09:32.42 | Shirik | Or does she point her palm outwards when showing the bird? |
| 09:32.56 | batrick | she uses her left hand shirik come on |
| 09:32.59 | kd3 | oh, here's your random "crudely drawn diagram of ony bugging out" for the night: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4064461083&sid=1&pageNo=9#166 |
| 09:33.34 | Shirik | ~hate batrick |
| 09:33.35 | purl | Hey shirik, ,,|, |
| 09:33.38 | Shirik | wtf |
| 09:33.42 | batrick | gj shirik |
| 09:33.43 | batrick | hahaha |
| 09:33.44 | kd3 | ahaha |
| 09:34.03 | kd3 | bashed |
| 09:35.56 | Shirik | purl, no, hate $who is <reply> Hey $who, ,,|, |
| 09:35.57 | purl | Shirik: okay |
| 09:35.57 | kd3 | http://www.bash.org/?839413 |
| 09:36.02 | Shirik | ~hate batrick |
| 09:36.02 | purl | Hey shirik, ,,|, |
| 09:36.08 | Shirik | yeah, screw ypu purl |
| 09:36.14 | Shirik | purl, forget hate $who |
| 09:36.14 | purl | i didn't have anything called 'hate $who' to forget, Shirik |
| 09:36.18 | Shirik | YES YOU DO |
| 09:36.19 | Fin | pending moderation, kd3 |
| 09:36.27 | Shirik | purl, forget hate $nic |
| 09:36.27 | purl | Shirik: i didn't have anything called 'hate $nic' to forget |
| 09:36.28 | Corrodias | alright, good day/night |
| 09:36.30 | Shirik | purl, forget hate $nick |
| 09:36.30 | purl | Shirik: i didn't have anything called 'hate $nick' to forget |
| 09:36.30 | kd3 | ya, that's just for future reference |
| 09:36.31 | Corrodias | time to finally get to bed |
| 09:36.34 | Shirik | I give up |
| 09:36.48 | Shirik | My factoid is stuck in blootbot for eternity |
| 09:36.56 | Fin | kd3: it takes aaaages for moderation |
| 09:37.19 | Fin | like, weeks |
| 09:38.45 | kd3 | 36 more hours til non-broken net access, hopefully |
| 09:38.52 | kd3 | c'mon Tuesday, get here faster |
| 09:41.39 | batrick | purl: no, hate is <reply> ,,|, |
| 09:41.39 | purl | i already had it that way, batrick |
| 09:41.43 | batrick | stfu |
| 09:41.49 | batrick | ~hate |
| 09:41.49 | purl | ,,|, |
| 09:42.06 | kd3 | ~hate foo |
| 09:42.07 | purl | Hey kd3, ,,|, |
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| 09:44.45 | batrick | ~shirik |
| 09:44.45 | purl | "If I had to sum up my life, I'd have to say, the one thing I hate doing is nothing." --Shirik |
| 09:44.56 | Shirik | oh god that's old |
| 09:45.12 | Shirik | What is that from? A year ago |
| 09:45.15 | Shirik | ~literal shirik |
| 09:45.16 | purl | "shirik" is "<reply> "If I had to sum up my life, I'd have to say, the one thing I hate doing is nothing." --Shirik" |
| 09:45.16 | Shirik | er |
| 09:45.19 | Shirik | ~factinfo shirik |
| 09:45.19 | purl | shirik -- created by Mike-N-Go <n=MikeNGoS@64.193.93.197> at Mon Apr 9 06:13:18 2007 (287 days); it has been requested 8 times, last by batrick, 34s ago. |
| 09:45.28 | Shirik | almost |
| 09:45.52 | batrick | ~malreth |
| 09:45.53 | purl | never take malreth seriously |
| 09:46.04 | batrick | ~facts |
| 09:46.05 | purl | Facts are the things you should use when you add informational factoids. |
| 09:46.10 | batrick | ~fact |
| 09:46.10 | purl | An automated system for managing small snippets of information.. URL: http://projects.ticons.com.au/fact/ |
| 09:46.21 | batrick | meh |
| 09:46.35 | batrick | wonder how much work adding that to abtbot would be |
| 09:47.02 | Shirik | Well |
| 09:47.07 | Shirik | if you didn't want it to crash when someone goes |
| 09:47.11 | Shirik | !quote shirik ( |
| 09:47.11 | batbot | Shirik, shirik said: "And since the US is always right (or we'll bomb you), I'm right.". |
| 09:47.26 | Shirik | Hey you fixed it |
| 09:47.37 | Fisker- | hai |
| 09:47.40 | Shirik | !quote shirik % |
| 09:47.41 | batbot | Shirik, shirik said: "bar can be any type and it will let you do it. It's a horrible idea in 99% of cases, but legal.". |
| 09:47.45 | Shirik | Hrm, ok |
| 09:47.48 | Shirik | I submit |
| 09:48.14 | Fisker- | !quote Fisker- % |
| 09:48.14 | batbot | Fisker-, fisker- has not said anything with your given pattern. |
| 09:48.17 | Fisker- | :< |
| 09:48.18 | Fisker- | fail |
| 09:48.20 | Fisker- | !quote Fisker- |
| 09:48.20 | batbot | Fisker-, fisker- said: "fail". |
| 09:48.23 | Fisker- | yay |
| 09:48.24 | Fisker- | !quote Fisker- |
| 09:48.27 | Fisker- | !quote Fisker- |
| 09:48.28 | Fisker- | DO IT |
| 09:49.26 | Shirik | !quote Shirik |
| 09:49.26 | batbot | Shirik, shirik said: "I submit". |
| 09:49.28 | Shirik | hm |
| 09:49.32 | Shirik | your bot lies in tells |
| 09:49.38 | Shirik | (04:49:06) (batbot) Shirik, shirik has not said anything. |
| 09:49.53 | batrick | ya i don't really like how i eneded up doing it |
| 09:50.49 | batrick | i haven't thought of a better way, until i do i won't bother changing it |
| 09:52.28 | Industrial | How do I move the mouse in windows without a mouse :P |
| 09:52.50 | batrick | u don't |
| 09:52.50 | Industrial | like, with the keyboard.. it was possible but I cant remember how |
| 09:53.02 | Shirik | (04:52:43) (batbot) Shirik: > leave this alone |
| 09:53.07 | Shirik | :< |
| 09:53.08 | kd3 | should be somewhere in the accessibility tools menu |
| 09:53.55 | Industrial | nop |
| 09:54.01 | Industrial | narrator magnifier and on screen keyboard |
| 09:55.02 | Shirik | that was odd |
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| 09:56.11 | Shirik | I think I see a bug in batrick's sandbox... I just need to find it |
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| 09:59.58 | kd3 | ah, what the hell, it's nearly 0500. |
| 10:00.08 | Shirik | I should go to bed too |
| 10:00.10 | Shirik | night |
| 10:00.30 | Cairenn | shit, it is, isn't it? |
| 10:00.58 | Shirik|zZz | I will find that bug batrick, it is there, I know it is! |
| 10:04.12 | batrick | haha |
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| 10:30.11 | batrick | ok shirik |
| 10:30.21 | batrick | i don't know wtf is going on but it sure as hell isn't my fault |
| 10:30.28 | batrick | i blame luatask :) |
| 10:30.37 | batrick | --> return setmetatable({}, {}) |
| 10:30.37 | batbot | batrick: > table: 0x8109378 |
| 10:30.52 | batrick | --> return setmetatable({}, {__tostring = function() end}) |
| 10:30.56 | batrick | always fucks up |
| 10:30.57 | batbot | batrick: > maximum execution time/memory exceeded |
| 10:31.02 | batrick | doesn't make any sense |
| 10:31.20 | batrick | well |
| 10:31.31 | batrick | hmm |
| 10:31.55 | batrick | --> return string.sub("", 1, 250) |
| 10:31.55 | batbot | batrick: > |
| 10:31.59 | nevcairiel | --> return setmetatable({}, {__tostring = function() return "mytable" end}) |
| 10:31.59 | batbot | nevcairiel: > mytable |
| 10:32.04 | batrick | --> return #string.sub("", 1, 250) |
| 10:32.04 | batbot | batrick: > 0 |
| 10:32.09 | batrick | ya |
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| 10:33.00 | batrick | ah, wonderful |
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| 10:35.43 | batrick | --> setmetatable({}, {__tostring = function() end}) |
| 10:35.43 | batbot | batrick: > |
| 10:35.49 | batrick | woot |
| 10:36.11 | Fisker- | :>? |
| 10:37.55 | batrick | the problem was, i relied on tostring() always returning a string (which it should) |
| 10:38.22 | batrick | but when the __tostring metamethod doesn't put a string down, string.sub would error |
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| 11:06.12 | batrick | awesome |
| 11:06.15 | batrick | shirik it worked |
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| 11:15.55 | widgertick | 'ello |
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| 12:03.13 | Fin | hello |
| 12:03.26 | Industrial | HI FIN |
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| 13:14.26 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge is #wowi-lounge: Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.3.x ToC: 20300 | Happy Birthday Shirik! |
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| 13:40.48 | art3mis | its the most advanced piece of technology you'll ever pee on |
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| 13:56.37 | Wobin | art3mis: You get knocked up, did you? |
| 13:57.06 | art3mis | its a new commercial |
| 13:57.13 | art3mis | i swear its straight from idiocracy |
| 13:57.50 | art3mis | http://youtube.com/watch?v=DqX7VxW3wL0 |
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| 14:04.39 | Wobin | omg |
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| 14:04.41 | Wobin | win: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PNT1LVZkNc |
| 14:07.02 | art3mis | isnt that awesome? |
| 14:08.25 | Kalroth | <3 Asterix |
| 14:08.45 | Fisker- | btw Wobin |
| 14:09.03 | Fisker- | you must know some kind of addon that can track raid stats like who joined at what time and who didn't and etc. |
| 14:09.21 | Kalroth | CT RaidTracker does it, I believe |
| 14:09.46 | Fisker- | does not want |
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| 14:15.56 | Wobin | Fisker-: I've never found one that was worth it |
| 14:15.59 | Wobin | but I haven't looked that hard |
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| 14:21.59 | sysrage | lol art3mis.. i sat there saying 'wtf' for like 10 min the first time i saw that on tv |
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| 14:25.09 | art3mis | sysrage yeah |
| 14:25.32 | art3mis | i keep waiting for my first brawndo commercial |
| 14:27.02 | Wobin | ... it has a 51% chance of detecting pregnancy 5 days in advance? |
| 14:27.03 | sysrage | rofl are they seriously making brawndo now? |
| 14:27.06 | Wobin | ... so does a coin =P |
| 14:27.13 | sysrage | lol wobin |
| 14:28.03 | art3mis | sysrage: yeah its already on shelves |
| 14:28.09 | art3mis | it's got electrolytes! |
| 14:28.18 | art3mis | and thas what plants crave |
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| 15:06.08 | ralfWORK | so... |
| 15:06.14 | ralfWORK | question on netherspite |
| 15:06.22 | ralfWORK | anyone around who's done him? |
| 15:07.06 | ralfWORK | I'm just wondering if the portal phase is effectively threatless, due to the way the red beam works |
| 15:07.18 | nevcairiel | yes it is, just go full out |
| 15:08.19 | ralfWORK | hmm... I don't see an aggro dump at the end of the phase |
| 15:08.48 | ralfWORK | that won't be a problem though? |
| 15:09.02 | [dRaCo] | no problem |
| 15:09.16 | ralfWORK | i.e. when he banishes and the portals are down, it's standard aggro table right? so couldn't that not be a tank? |
| 15:09.19 | [dRaCo] | when banished, he just attacks random players |
| 15:09.37 | ralfWORK | with the Netherbreath or whatever, right? |
| 15:09.39 | ralfWORK | hmm ok |
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| 15:19.38 | ralfWORK | but uhm |
| 15:20.04 | ralfWORK | ok so you're saying during banish phase, there is no aggro either? |
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| 15:21.22 | Wobin | kinda |
| 15:21.30 | Wobin | if you don't get your tank in the red beam fast |
| 15:21.37 | Wobin | netherspite will go munch on others |
| 15:21.48 | Wobin | there -is- aggro |
| 15:21.55 | Wobin | netherspite is just immobile during that phase |
| 15:22.20 | Wobin | generally it's safest not to dps during the banish phase |
| 15:25.30 | ralfWORK | ah I see |
| 15:25.40 | ralfWORK | can you simply outrange banish phase? |
| 15:26.00 | Wobin | absolutely |
| 15:26.18 | Wobin | if you keep him (her?) near the door, you can head to the far wall |
| 15:26.21 | Wobin | or vice versa |
| 15:26.34 | Wobin | We tend to just run for the wall during banish |
| 15:26.47 | Wobin | it makes picking up aggro again easier for the tank |
| 15:27.13 | Wobin | also make sure that your raid knows what each of the beams do |
| 15:27.27 | Wobin | cause shifts in position may leave blockers out of place |
| 15:27.29 | ralfWORK | yea, I'll be screaming at people about beams, I'm sure |
| 15:27.39 | Wobin | and you'll need to know what beams you can act as a stand in as |
| 15:27.50 | ralfWORK | so during banish, you just out range the dragon |
| 15:28.01 | ralfWORK | and sit on your thumbs for 30 seconds or whatever |
| 15:28.20 | Wobin | just tell each kind of class what colour beam they should look out for, so you can say "omg, warlock 1 is down, can someone block it" |
| 15:28.20 | ralfWORK | no tanking, no DPSing, no healing |
| 15:28.21 | Wobin | yeah |
| 15:28.28 | Wobin | oh you can heal |
| 15:28.51 | ralfWORK | well right, but I'm saying there's nothing to heal because you're out of range of all his attacks, correct? |
| 15:28.55 | Polarina | dolby-wowi: Could you rename the forum "LUA Script Help" to "Lua Script Help"? |
| 15:28.58 | Wobin | technically yeah =) |
| 15:29.10 | ralfWORK | Wobin: is that wise? |
| 15:29.16 | Wobin | there's still people running through consumption etc though |
| 15:29.30 | Wobin | yeah, healing aggro shouldn't outweigh the tank at any point |
| 15:29.39 | ralfWORK | naw I don't mean from aggro |
| 15:29.40 | ralfWORK | I mean uhmb |
| 15:30.07 | ralfWORK | once you top people off from end of portal phase, if you're out of range of netherspite in banish phase |
| 15:30.12 | ralfWORK | then... no one is doing anything |
| 15:30.15 | Wobin | yeah |
| 15:30.20 | Wobin | nothing to heal =) |
| 15:30.29 | ralfWORK | just trying to make sure I understand :D |
| 15:30.37 | Wobin | anyway everyone is fairly spread out, so I suggest you mention bandages if they need it =) |
| 15:30.48 | ralfWORK | ya, no doubt |
| 15:31.02 | ralfWORK | hmm |
| 15:31.03 | Wobin | It's a fairly straightforward fight, once the mechanic is down |
| 15:31.07 | ralfWORK | ya |
| 15:31.25 | ralfWORK | I did it once six months ago in a pug |
| 15:31.26 | Wobin | as there aren't many sort of random factors, like Prince and the infernals |
| 15:31.28 | ralfWORK | we won |
| 15:31.37 | Wobin | The most random thing is the portal placement |
| 15:31.45 | Wobin | and that's usually fairly easy to keep ahead of |
| 15:31.45 | ralfWORK | but that was too long ago to remember crap about it :P |
| 15:32.01 | ralfWORK | yea, looks like there's 10s to grab the portals |
| 15:33.12 | Wobin | anyway, night all =) |
| 15:33.26 | Wobin | good luck on Netherspite, Ralf =) |
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| 15:39.16 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 15:44.10 | Industrial | hm I made a D:/bin and a D:/bin/shell.bat . all this does is start rxvt (which is in my path) with some flags. |
| 15:44.31 | Industrial | if I start a cmd from start->run>cmd and enter rxvt I get a rxvt |
| 15:44.44 | Industrial | but the .bat doesnt recognize the command rxvt |
| 15:44.45 | Industrial | :| |
| 15:44.48 | Industrial | WHY |
| 15:45.54 | Industrial | does if I just use teh absolute path BUT |
| 15:46.07 | Industrial | for a split second I see the CMD window, I dont like that :P |
| 15:46.14 | Industrial | can I hide it somehow? :\ |
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| 15:53.45 | ralfWORK | I hae no idea |
| 15:53.53 | ralfWORK | *have |
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| 16:35.20 | Saint-N | ooo it's brisk out baby! |
| 16:35.27 | Saint-N | a whole -7 in nyc today |
| 16:40.48 | Duman | Industrial - check the options for the batch file - you can likely start the window minimized |
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| 16:42.25 | Saint-N | wheeeeee |
| 16:42.30 | Saint-N | i found THPS 1 for psx |
| 16:42.51 | Saint-N | and got an action replay max with 16mb memory card for ps2 rather cheap like 20$ |
| 16:43.05 | Saint-N | time to softmod and put in an 80gig drive for "backups" ;P |
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| 16:44.48 | Shirik | Anyone have a good idea of a way to take a screenshot of the UAC popup? |
| 16:45.10 | Cide | snipping tool? |
| 16:45.13 | Cide | oh |
| 16:45.17 | Cide | I guess it's intercepted when it's up? |
| 16:45.36 | Cide | yeah |
| 16:45.42 | Cide | no idea then |
| 16:45.48 | Shirik | You go to the secure desktop so you can't use any insecure programs when it's up :/ And printscreen doesn't work |
| 16:46.37 | Shirik | lol, there's entire articles on this |
| 16:46.39 | Shirik | "Technical writers creating manuals for their products on Windows Vista will have to contend with the User Account Control (UAC) consent dialog. The default setting is to display the dialog over a secure desktop to keep malicious code from spoofing it. However, this also prevents us from taking a screenshot of the dialog." |
| 16:46.58 | Shirik | oh I can turn off the secure desktop, yey |
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| 16:48.41 | Shirik | <3 google |
| 16:50.30 | Saint-N | is it a funny popup? |
| 16:50.54 | Saint-N | like "AUC has intercepted this action because your parents said that 11pm was to late to be on the computer, time for bed young man" |
| 16:52.42 | Shirik | No it's actually a pretty boring popup =( |
| 16:52.56 | Shirik | Except when the digital signature doesn't match |
| 16:52.59 | Shirik | then it screams murder |
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| 16:59.55 | Cide | Shirik: don't think I've ever seen that popup :P |
| 17:00.19 | Shirik | It's the dark, evil red popup |
| 17:00.33 | Shirik | s/the/this/ |
| 17:00.46 | Cide | nope |
| 17:00.52 | Cide | don't think I've seen it! |
| 17:02.01 | ralfWORK | screen shot or it didn't happen |
| 17:02.15 | Saint-N | laugh |
| 17:02.24 | Saint-N | and ralf points out the crux of the conversation ;P |
| 17:02.30 | ralfWORK | =) |
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| 17:25.54 | Saint-N | awesome |
| 17:25.58 | ralfWORK | ya |
| 17:26.02 | Saint-N | found a place on ebay that has a warehouse in brooklyn |
| 17:26.10 | ralfWORK | oh ok |
| 17:26.26 | Saint-N | so i can get an adapter for my sx270 optiplex for 25$ instead of ordering it online for 90+ |
| 17:26.36 | ralfWORK | groovy |
| 17:26.53 | ralfWORK | just found out one of our rogues is at about 7fps in kara :( |
| 17:27.12 | kergoth | ow |
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| 17:27.20 | ralfWORK | yea. no wonder he sucks |
| 17:27.21 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 17:29.04 | Saint-N | hah |
| 17:29.09 | Saint-N | dude spam sinsiter! |
| 17:29.12 | Saint-N | i am! |
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| 17:33.45 | Shirik | Debugging |
| 17:33.45 | Shirik | * In 2.4, you'll be able to pass a coroutine as a first (optional) parameter to debugstack() |
| 17:33.46 | cogwheel | argh winmodems piss me off... why does it have to clear all interrupts (hence ptting gps in my typing?) |
| 17:33.52 | Shirik | I wonder what that parameter is supposed to actually do |
| 17:33.57 | cogwheel | putting gaps* |
| 17:34.01 | cogwheel | (see?) |
| 17:34.29 | zenzelezz | Shirik: it won't do anything, it'll just allow you to pass it! |
| 17:34.33 | Shirik | Oh ok |
| 17:34.41 | cogwheel | there is absolutely no reasn my keyoard and serial port cant comunicte at the same time |
| 17:35.04 | cogwheel | </rant> |
| 17:35.09 | Shirik | Welllll |
| 17:35.16 | zenzelezz | what sort of modem is a winmodem? |
| 17:35.23 | Shirik | actually, one of them has to have priority over the other, cogwheel |
| 17:35.40 | Shirik | An interrupt can only preempt an interrupt if its mask is higher |
| 17:36.04 | Shirik | However they should be going so fast that it shouldn't matter :P |
| 17:36.21 | cogwheel | Shirik: exactly |
| 17:36.31 | ralfWORK | lol@modem |
| 17:36.33 | cogwheel | that should'vebeen taken for granted imo |
| 17:36.36 | ralfWORK | who has those anymore? |
| 17:36.44 | cogwheel | ralfWORK: this is for faxes :P |
| 17:36.59 | Shirik | A modem is that thing you use to connect to the internet over a cable line, right? |
| 17:37.14 | ralfWORK | gross |
| 17:37.17 | Saint-N | cog |
| 17:37.19 | ralfWORK | faxes lol |
| 17:37.22 | Saint-N | yer problem is yer using a modem |
| 17:37.30 | Saint-N | computers werent meant to use phone lines ;P |
| 17:37.41 | Shirik | What's wrong with faxes? |
| 17:37.59 | Saint-N | faxes are stand alone machines OR things that send faxed pages to your email ;P |
| 17:38.18 | ralfWORK | I loathe faxes |
| 17:38.32 | Saint-N | zen: winmodems are jumperless and use pnp to assign irq and stuff |
| 17:38.42 | Saint-N | in short complete and utter crap |
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| 17:38.46 | cogwheel | Shirik: my point was that it clears interrupts for > 1/2 sec at a time which eliminates keyboard/mouse input. I don't see any reason it would need to do that |
| 17:39.09 | cogwheel | zenzelezz: basically they're a phone line on a card and nearly everything is controlled by software |
| 17:39.19 | Shirik | Haha I think I know what they're doing |
| 17:39.23 | Shirik | lazy programmers |
| 17:39.25 | cogwheel | it's like the modem equivalent of integrated graphiic |
| 17:39.30 | Lopeppeppy | What's a.... phone... line? |
| 17:39.30 | cogwheel | graphics* |
| 17:39.51 | zenzelezz | and as far as computers using phone lines go, some countries (like Norway) have way greater phone line coverage than cable, so ADSL is the norm |
| 17:39.52 | ralfWORK | Lopeppeppy: that's when people get on their cell phones and stand in line together |
| 17:39.57 | Shirik | I'm willing to be they lock out interrupts while they try to handle the serial communication, instead of performing a calculation based on the time of the interrupts |
| 17:40.16 | Shirik | I did that once |
| 17:40.17 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, I get it now, ralfWORK |
| 17:40.21 | Shirik | It killed the rest of my system |
| 17:40.27 | ralfWORK | like at a grocery store |
| 17:41.15 | cogwheel | Shirik: the thing is, it's only when it's initializing the modem ... once the fax is in progress it goes quite smoothly |
| 17:41.40 | Saint-N | cog it does that cuz its never qutie sure what irq it's actually using ;P |
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| 17:41.54 | ralfWORK | it doesn't have an IRQ lol |
| 17:42.14 | ralfWORK | wow. |
| 17:42.20 | ralfWORK | I forgot all about IRQ confilcts |
| 17:42.29 | ralfWORK | those were teh suck |
| 17:44.48 | cogwheel | i think you're putting too much faith in old tech, Saint-N |
| 17:44.55 | cogwheel | :P |
| 17:45.11 | cogwheel | the pnp stuff is only relevant to initial config... |
| 17:45.29 | cogwheel | what really differentiates a winmodem is how much of the processing actually goes on in the card itself |
| 17:45.30 | ralfWORK | what about ISA PNP |
| 17:45.35 | ralfWORK | that stuff rocked |
| 17:46.21 | Saint-N | cog: old tech i know really well though ;) |
| 17:46.33 | haste | ralfWORK: yes, plug and pray! |
| 17:46.47 | ralfWORK | yop! |
| 17:47.52 | Duman | heh |
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| 17:48.10 | Duman | I had some retarded IRQ issues when I attempted to update my BIOS |
| 17:48.43 | Duman | freaking ASUS listed one of their BETA BIOSes as "production"... well... let's jsut say it wasn't |
| 17:48.52 | ralfWORK | ahahahahaa |
| 17:49.00 | Duman | and downgrading your BIOS was a bitch, since they (on purpose) make it hard to downgrage |
| 17:49.08 | Duman | s/age$/ade/ |
| 17:49.28 | Duman | caused me much anger |
| 17:49.53 | Duman | ended up booting off of my USB key (yay for that, at least) and running some old version of their BIOS flash program |
| 17:55.02 | Shirik | ~dict qvint |
| 17:55.14 | Shirik | These people are making these words up |
| 17:55.47 | Lopeppeppy | Good morning, |Jelly|-dear. |
| 17:57.33 | |Jelly| | Morning Peppy! |
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| 18:01.58 | zenzelezz | |Jelly| scared peppy away :( |
| 18:02.34 | |Jelly| | :( |
| 18:09.40 | Shirik | Ha, I haven't heard this one before |
| 18:09.40 | Shirik | "There are a million threads about this on this forum. No, you are not special. As for the chat filter, it still does not permit you to swear. Just because they give police officers bulletproof vests does not give you permission to shoot them." |
| 18:09.43 | Shirik | Pretty good analogy. |
| 18:11.55 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 18:12.13 | ralfWORK | I don't know why they even try to censor that stuff |
| 18:12.15 | ralfWORK | but you know |
| 18:12.23 | ralfWORK | to each his own |
| 18:13.46 | Shirik | cookies!! |
| 18:13.57 | ralfWORK | I do not haz :( |
| 18:14.22 | Shirik | "Mrs. Fields Original Cookies, inc 4 LBS 1 of 1" |
| 18:14.29 | Shirik | Ship To: Me! |
| 18:14.33 | ralfWORK | rofl |
| 18:14.42 | Shirik | UPS Ground FL 320 2-03 Daytona Beach FL 32114 |
| 18:15.26 | Shirik | oh wow that's a lot of cookies |
| 18:15.36 | Thunder_Child | 4 lbs? not really |
| 18:15.47 | Thunder_Child | depending on the cookie |
| 18:15.51 | Shirik | They're all tiny though |
| 18:16.00 | Thunder_Child | ah |
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| 18:18.15 | Shirik | omg there's even more cookies underneath |
| 18:18.18 | Shirik | my aunt wants me to get fat |
| 18:19.59 | Thunder_Child | heh "Encounters need randomness, as small as miraculously dodging that one hit, all the way up to a fight randomly dropping green meteors on your face" |
| 18:20.11 | ralfWORK | rofl |
| 18:20.28 | ralfWORK | no, they really don't need more randomness |
| 18:20.38 | Thunder_Child | didnt say more |
| 18:20.48 | ralfWORK | oh... right my bad |
| 18:21.04 | Shirik | Every boss fight should have a point in it where the boss will hit the MT for 50k |
| 18:21.05 | Thunder_Child | more people bitching about prince |
| 18:21.15 | ralfWORK | lol use safezones nub |
| 18:21.18 | Shirik | However it is fully dodgeable |
| 18:21.22 | Shirik | I refuse to use safezones |
| 18:21.26 | Shirik | I prefer not to cheat the game |
| 18:21.28 | ralfWORK | good for you |
| 18:21.35 | ralfWORK | it's not cheating. it's winning. |
| 18:21.49 | Shirik | That's a good line for Barry Bonds |
| 18:22.02 | ralfWORK | when blizz removes the safe zones, then it would be cheating |
| 18:22.37 | ralfWORK | and they could easily do it too |
| 18:22.38 | ralfWORK | so what |
| 18:22.45 | Thunder_Child | safe zones? |
| 18:23.07 | ralfWORK | yea |
| 18:23.23 | Thunder_Child | where are they? |
| 18:23.32 | Thunder_Child | i always simply dodged them |
| 18:23.39 | ralfWORK | hopefully I won't get kicked by "cheating" ;) |
| 18:23.44 | ralfWORK | range stands at door |
| 18:23.55 | ralfWORK | MT follows the wall on the right out |
| 18:24.01 | ralfWORK | stands just past the notch in the wall |
| 18:24.11 | ralfWORK | ??? |
| 18:24.13 | ralfWORK | profit |
| 18:25.33 | Thunder_Child | meh, dodging was more fun |
| 18:25.39 | ralfWORK | now, sometimes an infernal will land *on* the tank |
| 18:25.48 | ralfWORK | then the melee just throws daggers or something |
| 18:25.53 | ralfWORK | and you heal through it |
| 18:31.23 | Cide | eoe |
| 18:31.24 | Cide | wow |
| 18:31.33 | Cide | not dodging != not winning |
| 18:31.34 | zenzelezz | <Shirik> Every boss fight should have a point in it where the boss will hit the MT for 50k <--- this reminds me too much of OMG SHOCK BARRIER!!!! |
| 18:31.35 | Cide | err |
| 18:31.46 | Cide | not using safezone != not winning |
| 18:32.10 | Cide | when we did do kara, we one shot prince every week without safezone bullshit |
| 18:32.38 | Thunder_Child | Cide, dodging works fine, plus it's more fun |
| 18:32.43 | Cide | exactly |
| 18:33.18 | zenzelezz | the thrill of moving from infernals as the tank... "move to your left" *move* "THE OTHER WAY" "I *was* moving to *my* left"... |
| 18:34.21 | zenzelezz | I had to tell the guy to start using north/south because he could never get the left/right correct |
| 18:35.19 | Gngsk | Someone once asked me which way was north. I pointed to the ceiling. |
| 18:35.46 | Thunder_Child | skill |
| 18:36.17 | ralfWORK | hey whatever you say |
| 18:36.40 | ralfWORK | that's like saying "we don't group up on attumen to avoid his charges. that's cheating" |
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| 18:41.41 | ralfWORK | that said, without a doubt, it takes more skill as a raid to do the dodging method |
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| 18:41.51 | ralfWORK | so congrats |
| 18:41.51 | Codayus | There's a pretty obvious line between intelligently dealing with boss abilities by outranging them, stacking up, LoSing them, etc., and exploiting geometry, IMHO. |
| 18:42.13 | ralfWORK | like I said, if it's there, you can use it |
| 18:42.36 | ralfWORK | want people to not use it? make it so infernals land there |
| 18:42.41 | Codayus | Bliz is obviously fine with people doing that on Prince though, so meh. :-/ |
| 18:43.04 | ralfWORK | their inaction to change it makes it pretty obvious to me |
| 18:43.49 | ralfWORK | they did that with nightbane didn't they? |
| 18:43.59 | ralfWORK | made it so if you run to far away, you get blasted to hell |
| 18:44.22 | Cidan | Sooo. |
| 18:44.33 | Codayus | I believe that was always part of the fight. Netherspite might be a better example - they added a door to stop people running into the hallway. |
| 18:44.36 | Cidan | What's jiggy, etc? Or whatever it is you cool kids say. |
| 18:45.00 | ralfWORK | Codayus: ok, cool |
| 18:45.19 | ralfWORK | and that's fine |
| 18:45.39 | Cide | I'm positive infernals were *meant* to be dealt with, not avoided completely |
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| 18:45.49 | ralfWORK | apparently not |
| 18:45.50 | Cide | that said, I don't doubt that they're fine with that strategy |
| 18:45.59 | Cide | there's a big difference which you seem to not understand |
| 18:45.59 | ralfWORK | or they would make sure you *had* to deal with them |
| 18:46.06 | Cide | no, they don't |
| 18:46.10 | Cide | they *could* |
| 18:46.19 | Cide | but it's not certain that they *would* |
| 18:46.46 | Cidan | yes, but *should* they? |
| 18:46.49 | Cide | generally, if it falls within "creative use of game mechanics" they rarely change it |
| 18:46.51 | Cidan | Sorry, I had to add that. |
| 18:47.35 | Cide | Cidan: I would, but could you? |
| 18:47.47 | Cidan | Cide: I'm not sure I should. |
| 18:48.25 | Cide | if you shouldn't I surely wouldn't |
| 18:48.54 | Cidan | perhaps not, but it doesn't mean I couldn't. |
| 18:49.18 | Cidan | Also |
| 18:49.22 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Cide & Cidan |
| 18:49.22 | purl | blames Cide & Cidan for all the evil in the world |
| 18:49.27 | Cidan | lol |
| 18:49.44 | zenzelezz | Cide's split personality is talking to himself again :-| |
| 18:49.56 | Cidan | Conspiracy alpha 1 is released for those of you who want to see EXTREEEMEEE HELLO KITTY WINDOW ACTION; though there isn't much in terms of content. It's almost all API. |
| 18:50.02 | Cidan | http://www.conspiracy-ui.com/ |
| 18:50.18 | Cide | should I download it? |
| 18:50.30 | Cidan | I think so; I would. |
| 18:50.37 | Cide | well, I guess I could. |
| 18:51.17 | Codayus | ralfWORK: The fact that you don't HAVE to deal with them doesn't mean you wearn't MEANT to deal with them. Given the error, and that it involves old content, it appears Bliz isn't interested in fixing it. Which is fine. But my guild just dodges them. *shrug* |
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| 18:52.06 | Shirik | zomg |
| 18:52.06 | Shirik | (13:41:35) -› Join: Cidan (n=aj@ip68-98-130-180.dc.dc.cox.net) |
| 18:52.09 | Shirik | impossible |
| 18:52.37 | Codayus | Speaking of weird glitches, some guildies were running an impromptu pug Kara, and got 2 non-guildies...got to Aran, and they were saying that you should aggro Aran while standing outside the door - he'll run out every couple minutes, then back in. No abilities hit you, fight takes about 15 minutes, but you can't die. |
| 18:52.51 | Codayus | Now there's an ugly exploit. oO |
| 18:53.05 | Cidan | INDEED |
| 18:53.23 | nevcairiel | now who needs that exploit to beat aran o.O |
| 18:53.30 | Codayus | The 2 pugs were saying that it was a common tactic among pug Kara groups. /facepalm |
| 18:53.34 | Thunder_Child | no one, he isnt that hard |
| 18:53.48 | Cide | I should go solo him |
| 18:54.19 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: the first time my guild beat Aran one of the tanks were using frost res to tank the water dudes :-p |
| 18:54.27 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 18:54.29 | zenzelezz | back when they still hurt |
| 18:54.38 | |Jelly| | o.O But Aran is so easy. |
| 18:54.44 | nevcairiel | yeah now you just kill the water elementals |
| 18:54.50 | nevcairiel | they have like no hp |
| 18:54.54 | Codayus | Actually, if our hydross tank is along, he wears his FrR gear. Why not? |
| 18:55.07 | Codayus | Or some of it, anyhow. |
| 18:55.19 | nevcairiel | i ask you .. why? not why not.. :P |
| 18:55.22 | zenzelezz | Codayus: if you have it, sure; but when you haven't even done Maulgar or Magtheridon... why would you have FrR? |
| 18:55.23 | Cide | because it's trivializing a trivial encounter :P |
| 18:55.38 | Codayus | That's what min/maxing is all about! |
| 18:56.17 | Cidan | So, is there a way to disable those fscking ! and ? minimap icons? |
| 18:56.27 | zenzelezz | close the minimap |
| 18:56.29 | Cidan | Without hacking textures. |
| 18:56.34 | Codayus | Duct tape. |
| 18:56.36 | Cidan | D: |
| 18:56.37 | Codayus | On your monitor. |
| 18:58.08 | Cidan | So I just updated all my ace2 mods since last I did it in Oct |
| 18:58.10 | Cidan | Whew. |
| 18:58.16 | Cidan | This new config window blows, D: |
| 18:58.31 | Codayus | Welcome to like, last year. |
| 18:58.35 | zenzelezz | I thought you didn't play? |
| 18:58.40 | Codayus | :-p |
| 18:58.44 | nevcairiel | you probably accidently updated one addon to rock *shrug |
| 18:59.26 | Cidan | Well I've come to the conclusion that if I don't start playing more, I will likely die of bordom. Yeah. |
| 18:59.45 | Cidan | Not that I'm seriously playing (Still level 66, this is a day 3 WoW original character here) |
| 19:00.09 | Cidan | Hell, I still have banana shoulders |
| 19:00.19 | End | lol banana |
| 19:00.26 | Codayus | Bananananannanana shoulders! |
| 19:00.31 | Codayus | Uh...nm. |
| 19:00.40 | nevcairiel | banana? like t0? |
| 19:00.41 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 19:00.46 | Cidan | T1, D: |
| 19:00.47 | zenzelezz | Cidan: that's nothing, Industrial's highest is like what, 15? |
| 19:00.48 | cogwheel | Codayus: amanda show? |
| 19:01.03 | Cidan | So this is Rock eh? |
| 19:01.05 | Cidan | Meh |
| 19:01.25 | cogwheel | Codayus: batman? |
| 19:01.48 | haste | zenzelezz: he has a L70 :p |
| 19:02.05 | Codayus | Hm, not sure. |
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| 19:06.06 | Thunder_Child | lighting shield works against ranged? |
| 19:06.11 | End | so |
| 19:07.47 | haste | Thunder_Child: believe so |
| 19:08.04 | Thunder_Child | i would love to know how they figured that one |
| 19:08.13 | End | on windows, you can take screenshots in rapid succession (basically every OnUpdate?), but apparently you need to wait longer than that on OS X |
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| 19:08.31 | End | hrm, or maybe it's framerate related |
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| 19:12.20 | ralfWORK | rofl that's a good idea |
| 19:12.28 | ralfWORK | Frost res on aran! |
| 19:13.01 | ralfWORK | lewl |
| 19:17.01 | nevcairiel | if you need that to beat aran, you should seriously reconsider running 5 mans again |
| 19:17.35 | kd3 | or listening to the shade of aran chant... http://shadeofaranchant.ytmnd.com |
| 19:18.51 | ralfWORK | hahahaah |
| 19:19.08 | ralfWORK | it's ok, I used to wear AR on curator :P |
| 19:19.55 | Thunder_Child | do you have to "full" rep bars regardless of rep? |
| 19:20.15 | Thunder_Child | s/fu/fi/ |
| 19:20.29 | ralfWORK | huh? |
| 19:20.41 | ralfWORK | what are you asking? |
| 19:20.49 | Thunder_Child | are you alway incrementing the bars? |
| 19:21.30 | ralfWORK | when... doing what? |
| 19:21.42 | Thunder_Child | gaining positive rep |
| 19:21.57 | ralfWORK | until it's 999/999, yes |
| 19:21.57 | Thunder_Child | 1 sec i'll be more clear |
| 19:22.06 | ralfWORK | ok cause I'm lost lol |
| 19:22.57 | Thunder_Child | if i am going from hated to neutral am i incrementing the bar or deincrementing it? |
| 19:23.07 | ralfWORK | oh uhm |
| 19:23.11 | ralfWORK | incrementing |
| 19:23.18 | ralfWORK | I think |
| 19:23.28 | End | I think it's incrementing too |
| 19:23.38 | Thunder_Child | meh, personally i think it should count down but ok |
| 19:23.43 | Thunder_Child | thanks |
| 19:24.43 | ralfWORK | like |
| 19:24.46 | ralfWORK | count down to 0 |
| 19:24.51 | Thunder_Child | ya |
| 19:24.51 | ralfWORK | at neutral |
| 19:24.53 | ralfWORK | then count up? |
| 19:25.04 | Thunder_Child | yep |
| 19:25.05 | ralfWORK | ahh I see what you're saying, don't think it works that way though |
| 19:25.18 | Thunder_Child | so it seems |
| 19:25.44 | Thunder_Child | would be eaiser to count as well |
| 19:26.03 | End | I'm at 0/36000 hated with aldor, so yeah :P |
| 19:26.38 | End | they couldn't hate me any more if they tried! |
| 19:27.29 | ralfWORK | I think shatt would be much more interesting if there were random aldor/scryer NPCs roaming around |
| 19:27.40 | ralfWORK | that would attack you if you were exalted with the opposite faction |
| 19:27.57 | ralfWORK | also, they would rumble in the streets |
| 19:28.14 | Thunder_Child | cant |
| 19:28.17 | Thunder_Child | shats neutral |
| 19:28.21 | Thunder_Child | teritory |
| 19:28.30 | ralfWORK | well make it not neutral! |
| 19:28.39 | Thunder_Child | lore |
| 19:29.08 | ralfWORK | :( |
| 19:29.13 | ralfWORK | rewrite the lore! |
| 19:29.39 | End | by rewriting the lore you remove shatt entirely :P |
| 19:29.47 | End | and then the scryers can't exist! |
| 19:30.05 | End | if the naruu can't keep shat neutral, then the scryers couldn't defect! |
| 19:30.07 | ralfWORK | or the horde! oh noes! |
| 19:30.21 | End | I was meaning the naruu never returned |
| 19:30.33 | End | and shatt was destroyed by illidan/kael'thas |
| 19:30.48 | End | I'm pretty sure the horde would exist :P |
| 19:30.58 | ralfWORK | and then they'd make the lolwell |
| 19:31.05 | End | heh |
| 19:31.20 | End | that'd have interesting ramifications though |
| 19:31.30 | End | if the naruu didn't return shattrath |
| 19:31.32 | ralfWORK | so the QQage would be heard throughout the ages by all priests |
| 19:34.28 | Thunder_Child | is past 300 for any prof outlands only? |
| 19:34.49 | kd3 | ya |
| 19:34.50 | Duman | you'll have to train it in outlands |
| 19:35.02 | Duman | but you can get things like first aid up to 375 and still be like level 40 ;) |
| 19:35.03 | Thunder_Child | bah..maxed out at 50 |
| 19:35.22 | End | yeah, can only get the books from outlands though, or someone who went to outlands for you |
| 19:35.27 | Duman | yeah |
| 19:35.34 | End | the main profs are in person trained though |
| 19:35.34 | Duman | (or the AH or whatever) |
| 19:35.44 | End | well, someone went to outlands :P |
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| 19:45.41 | Duman | mornin |
| 19:47.02 | kd3 | oh, lucky. ~1100 ping and I still didn't die when I dismounted from 500 yards in the air |
| 19:47.33 | Shirik | lul |
| 19:47.56 | kd3 | <3 praying that the blink would go off at the right time |
| 19:48.22 | Shirik | don't you have to pray that blink goes off, period? |
| 19:48.34 | kd3 | only in specific areas |
| 19:48.37 | kd3 | like most of WSG |
| 19:51.50 | ralfWORK | I got my little 40-ish druid up past 300 skinning |
| 19:51.54 | ralfWORK | it was good times |
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| 20:18.43 | art3mis | wheeee |
| 20:18.47 | art3mis | softmod works perfect |
| 20:18.52 | art3mis | finally i can play .hack again |
| 20:23.14 | ralfWORK | softmod? |
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| 20:41.34 | cncfanatic1 | anyone know of an addon that can parse beancounter data and show me AH profit / loss ? |
| 20:42.31 | MentalPower | cncfanatics: no parsing necessary, there are API functions for that |
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| 20:42.41 | cncfanatics | MentalPower: why ain't it displayed by default ? -.- |
| 20:42.43 | cncfanatics | and whats the api call ? |
| 20:42.57 | MentalPower | a) cause its still in development |
| 20:43.05 | MentalPower | b) look in the .lua |
| 20:43.10 | Thunder_Child | ~fail MentalPower |
| 20:43.10 | purl | MentalPower: Fail. |
| 20:43.23 | MentalPower | ~lart Thunder_Child |
| 20:43.23 | purl | offers Thunder_Child some herring |
| 20:43.31 | Thunder_Child | ~bzfrag MentalPower |
| 20:43.31 | purl | ACTION fries MentalPower with a laser |
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| 20:44.21 | cncfanatics | mind at least telling me the lua func ? :p |
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| 20:52.08 | Thunder_Child | random wow comment |
| 20:52.10 | Thunder_Child | 12:47:30 [1] <Murliin>: OMG ANOTHER FLYING MOOSE! |
| 20:52.10 | Thunder_Child | 12:47:46 [1] <Murliin>: NOOOOOO! NOT MY COTTON CANDY! |
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| 20:54.08 | Esamynn|Work | O_o |
| 20:55.10 | art3mis | ralfWORK: yeah corrupt savefile allows me to run hdloader |
| 20:55.23 | Thunder_Child | hmm..where is the FF for my life, i want to jump ahead 10 years to see what tech will be out |
| 20:55.49 | Thunder_Child | folding screen product that isnt vaporware http://gizmodo.com/347272/phillips-readius-materializes-with-fold+away-screen |
| 20:56.39 | kd3 | huh, weird. I've never seen this before... netherwing ledge is broken. like all the spawns/crystals have shifted by 50 yards or so |
| 20:56.59 | kd3 | orcs mining air, nethervine crystals out in the open, etc... |
| 20:57.10 | MentalPower | cncfanatics: my apologies, it seems the API functions are not there yet |
| 20:57.53 | cncfanatics | MentalPower: indeed , just checked too :) |
| 20:57.55 | MentalPower | cncfanatics: what kind of functions would you like to see added, I can forward the list to the developer |
| 20:58.12 | cncfanatics | GetAHProfit(); -- returns the total profit from the AH |
| 20:58.20 | cncfanatics | which would be sold - bought |
| 20:58.32 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/347070/pc-stands-for-portal-case |
| 20:58.35 | cncfanatics | pretty easy to write, just a simple loop through the saved vars |
| 20:58.35 | MentalPower | for the entire historical record? |
| 20:58.38 | cncfanatics | actualy, I'm gonna write it myself |
| 20:58.40 | cncfanatics | ya |
| 20:59.10 | MentalPower | if you make a patch, I can add it myself |
| 20:59.19 | MentalPower | s/add/merge/ |
| 20:59.30 | cncfanatics | MentalPower: I can make the func, but not add it to the UI anywhere |
| 20:59.34 | cncfanatics | mind adding it somewhere in the UI of bean ? |
| 20:59.53 | MentalPower | why can't you add it to the UI? |
| 20:59.53 | Thunder_Child | a little stats button |
| 21:00.22 | cncfanatics | because I suck at anything that has to do with UI |
| 21:04.55 | cncfanatics | bah, the savedvars format is a HUGE pain in the ass |
| 21:07.25 | Esamynn|Work | oh, why is that? |
| 21:08.31 | cncfanatics | check BeanCounter's saved vars |
| 21:08.33 | cncfanatics | u'll see why |
| 21:08.37 | Shirik | What is this big movement to git? |
| 21:08.41 | Shirik | What's so great about it? |
| 21:08.48 | Esamynn|Work | oh, the format of BeanCounter specifically |
| 21:09.03 | kd3 | it's new and shiny |
| 21:09.06 | Esamynn|Work | Shirik: it's DISTRIBUTED! it must be good! |
| 21:09.13 | Esamynn|Work | </sarcasim> |
| 21:09.25 | Shirik | Isn't that mercurial's selling point? |
| 21:10.43 | Esamynn|Work | The distributed version control model has some interesting features, but I'm not convinced that 100% distributed is the way to go |
| 21:12.21 | Shirik | I think it's a bit odd |
| 21:12.22 | MentalPower | cncfanatics: BeanCounter.lua:171-195 <-- SV Definition |
| 21:12.27 | Shirik | how do you ensure everyone has the same version? |
| 21:12.35 | MentalPower | you don't |
| 21:12.39 | Esamynn|Work | Shirik: heh, indeed |
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| 21:12.52 | Shirik | Isn't that somewhat bad? Unless you were intentionally creating a branch? |
| 21:13.12 | Esamynn|Work | Shirik: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XpnKHJAok8 |
| 21:13.59 | Esamynn|Work | someone linked me that a while back when I was asking similar questions |
| 21:13.59 | cncfanatics | MentalPower: still a pain :s |
| 21:13.59 | kergoth | Esamynn|Work, distributed still lets you operate in a client/server model if you choose to. there's nothing stopping you from hosting a bare repo in an upstream location like repo.or.cz and pushing/pulling to/from it for all your clones |
| 21:14.19 | Esamynn|Work | this, I know |
| 21:16.35 | Shirik | haha |
| 21:16.59 | kandoko | cncfanatics: The wiki may help a bit, http://wiki.norganna.org/BeanCounter But yeah the SV is a bit odd :P |
| 21:17.00 | Shirik | "In the early days of the kernel, we used tarballs and patches, which was a much superior source control management system than CVS" |
| 21:17.05 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:17.43 | Esamynn|Work | however, I still sort of feel like more support is needed for some sort of optional centralized method for managing the various working copies of your developers |
| 21:18.42 | kergoth | some distributed version control systems allow multiple working copies per local copy of the repository. monotone does, i know. don't think git does, but it's easy enough to do a clone using hard links or using alternates |
| 21:19.10 | Shirik | =( |
| 21:19.18 | Shirik | "If there are any Subversion users in the audience, you might want to leave." |
| 21:19.23 | Esamynn|Work | yah |
| 21:19.46 | kergoth | i should try mercurial more, only played with it for like 10 minutes |
| 21:19.46 | Esamynn|Work | he bascially discounts svn, even though he's never even looked at it, because of it's roots |
| 21:19.47 | kergoth | same with bzr |
| 21:19.49 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:20.41 | Esamynn|Work | Shirik: he labels himself as an asshole, and he's not kidding |
| 21:22.20 | kergoth | i'm pretty happy with svn, only a few things i don't like. i prefer distributed, i hate the fact that branches/tags aren't stored in a way thats easily accessed no matter what repo you're in, since layouts vary, and tags arent immutable. and externals are one of the worst hacks i've seen in a long time |
| 21:22.34 | MentalPower | cncfanatics: kandoko is the BeanCounter dev, bug him about the missing API :) |
| 21:23.37 | Esamynn|Work | kergoth: I'm actually satisfied with the way tags are done in svn, the accessibility issue is a UI issue in my view |
| 21:23.56 | Esamynn|Work | externals, though yah, they're a badly done hack |
| 21:25.26 | kergoth | converting an svn repo to any other system, or writing scripts, is a pain, since you have to ask the user about the layout of each project in the svn. look at wowace, there are at least 3-4 tag/branch layouts. at least if you use hooks to enforce consistency, the script only needs to ask about the layout once per repo, though |
| 21:25.34 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:28.44 | kandoko | ~lart MentalPower |
| 21:28.44 | purl | pours gasoline all over MentalPower, ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze |
| 21:29.22 | MentalPower | :P |
| 21:30.19 | MentalPower | hehe |
| 21:32.19 | ralfWORK | boo to svn externals |
| 21:32.58 | kergoth | play with a good commercial scm like clearcase, with its proper 'views', and externals just look like a joke :( |
| 21:33.23 | ralfWORK | vendor branches wewt |
| 21:33.35 | ralfWORK | sadly I'm the only one in the office who understands vendor branches |
| 21:33.39 | ralfWORK | (or any branch for that matter) |
| 21:33.42 | kergoth | :( |
| 21:33.55 | ralfWORK | yes, it makes me sad face too :( |
| 21:34.00 | Esamynn|Work | there is something to be said for the simplicity of subversion though |
| 21:34.07 | kergoth | at least you use an scm, i've been in too many jobs where people just zip up the code, in the past |
| 21:34.11 | kergoth | could always be worse |
| 21:34.17 | ralfWORK | kergoth: that's how it was when I got here |
| 21:34.25 | Esamynn|Work | erk |
| 21:34.37 | ralfWORK | a common drive with clientname/html/archives/2007/january/1 folders |
| 21:34.40 | ralfWORK | it was fucking retarded |
| 21:34.49 | ralfWORK | yea |
| 21:34.54 | Esamynn|Work | .... |
| 21:34.56 | Esamynn|Work | jeez |
| 21:34.57 | ralfWORK | "what changed between these 2?" |
| 21:35.03 | ralfWORK | "oh I don't know. just upload the entire site" |
| 21:35.05 | ralfWORK | ... |
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| 21:35.51 | Esamynn|Work | lol |
| 21:36.08 | ralfWORK | I cried so many times :( |
| 21:42.25 | art3mis | and if it was gonna come back i doubt that you'd be it's harbinger |
| 21:42.40 | Esamynn|Work | heh, burn |
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| 21:54.03 | Thunder_Child | err... |
| 21:54.07 | Thunder_Child | crap |
| 21:54.07 | ralfWORK | ewwww |
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| 21:56.09 | Thunder_Child | there we go |
| 21:56.48 | art3mis | there's no brown |
| 21:56.53 | art3mis | shes very clean ;P |
| 21:56.57 | ralfWORK | hahahahaah |
| 21:56.57 | ralfWORK | TMI |
| 21:58.24 | Thunder_Child | wow...that was very disturbing |
| 21:59.36 | zenzelezz | oh quit pretending you're so pure |
| 21:59.58 | ralfWORK | well... ok just give me her pic |
| 22:01.02 | art3mis | http://youtube.com/watch?v=GAkRF4QBKew&feature=related how about a video instead? |
| 22:01.40 | Thunder_Child | zenzelezz i am hardly pure, didnt need mean i needed the mental image of the inside of Cairenn's ass |
| 22:02.05 | MentalPower | ... |
| 22:02.25 | Cairenn | ummmm .... |
| 22:02.42 | art3mis | i didnt say it was a video of cairenn |
| 22:02.49 | Thunder_Child | what video? |
| 22:02.49 | art3mis | i just offered a video instead ;P |
| 22:02.56 | art3mis | <Apoc> Know what would be awesome? |
| 22:02.56 | art3mis | <Apoc> If Bush gave a state of the union address. |
| 22:02.56 | art3mis | <Apoc> And just randomly Rickrolled the entire nation. |
| 22:02.56 | art3mis | <Apoc> That would win so hard. |
| 22:03.08 | Bela|work | 0.o |
| 22:04.36 | kd3 | I uh... |
| 22:05.03 | art3mis | just called....to say......you luved me? |
| 22:05.14 | Thunder_Child | kd3 should never have tab here in the first place |
| 22:05.21 | Thunder_Child | not that the forums are any better mind you |
| 22:05.26 | cogwheel | that would be so terribly awesome |
| 22:05.35 | art3mis | it could have been an accidental tabbing |
| 22:05.47 | cogwheel | they might finally kick his ass out for being su..... /me stops |
| 22:05.49 | art3mis | like missed the one he wanted |
| 22:05.57 | art3mis | su? |
| 22:06.27 | art3mis | such a waste of oxygen, skin and general genetic material? |
| 22:06.47 | art3mis | oh cog |
| 22:06.55 | art3mis | did you see that pregnancy test video? |
| 22:06.58 | Thunder_Child | or not able to speel stupid? |
| 22:07.00 | art3mis | the commercial? |
| 22:07.01 | Thunder_Child | spell* |
| 22:07.18 | cogwheel | art3mis: probably |
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| 22:07.41 | art3mis | the "this is the most advanced technology you've ever had to pee on" one? |
| 22:09.02 | art3mis | http://youtube.com/watch?v=DqX7VxW3wL0 |
| 22:10.25 | art3mis | http://youtube.com/watch?v=wXs8kyzjw9U nsfw for the word niggas but best boondocks ever |
| 22:11.15 | Thunder_Child | the best boondocks is the comic strip |
| 22:11.25 | art3mis | the show is pretty awesome though |
| 22:11.37 | Thunder_Child | i personally dont acre for it |
| 22:11.46 | art3mis | thats the martin luther king jr speach btw |
| 22:11.48 | Thunder_Child | care* |
| 22:14.36 | kd3 | ok. wth. </3. reason why my net access is broken. direct quote. "The cable flux is malfunctioning." |
| 22:14.47 | kd3 | instantly responded: "is the flux capacitor busted too?" |
| 22:14.52 | kd3 | "we'll have to check" |
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| 22:15.20 | art3mis | hahahha |
| 22:16.53 | kd3 | I'm still having a hard time breathing, laughing so hard. the apartment complex manager's going to have to stop lying to us at some point... maybe he'll realize it when he realizes what a "flux capacitor" is |
| 22:19.25 | art3mis | just refer to him as mcfly for the next couple of days |
| 22:19.39 | art3mis | or constantly call him amrty like the professor did ;P |
| 22:19.43 | art3mis | marty |
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| 22:39.54 | NightHawkTheSane | kd3: i'm not sure what's worse there, that he used such a bad lie, or that he completely missed the reference :P |
| 22:40.01 | cncfanatics | MentalPower: mind contacting the beancounter devs about adding that ? |
| 22:40.16 | MentalPower | cncfanatics: kandoko is the beancounter dev |
| 22:40.40 | MentalPower | ~seen kandoko |
| 22:40.44 | purl | kandoko is currently on #wowi-lounge #norganna. Has said a total of 2 messages. Is idling for 1h 12m, last said: '~lart MentalPower'. |
| 22:40.45 | cncfanatics | mind telling him when he's not afk ? my bed is calling me :) |
| 22:40.53 | MentalPower | he's here now (if hiding) |
| 22:41.00 | cncfanatics | well, he read it then :) |
| 22:41.23 | cncfanatics | g'night |
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| 22:58.48 | Shirik | Esamynn|Work: That video is actually pretty good |
| 22:59.03 | Esamynn|Work | yes, I thought so as well |
| 22:59.18 | Shirik | I can actually see his reasoning behind it. I'm not entirely sure I agree with it for all projects, but it makes sense now, at least. |
| 22:59.40 | Esamynn|Work | I had a few other links for stuff written people who aren't "hooked", but I haven't looked for them yet |
| 23:03.00 | cogwheel | art3mis: actually, i think i first saw that on TV |
| 23:05.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Who remember that website that was linked here the first time "the" keylogger came around... specifically the website where you can upload files and it scans them with multiple AV products? |
| 23:14.17 | Shirik | I like how we now call it "the" keylogger |
| 23:15.24 | cladhaire | duh there's only one :P |
| 23:17.57 | Cidan | Hm |
| 23:22.42 | Shirik | hm indeed |
| 23:22.52 | Shirik | The question becomes wendy's, burger king, or mcdonalds |
| 23:22.56 | Shirik | or maybe subway, they're still open |
| 23:23.13 | NightHawkTheSane | wendy's |
| 23:23.15 | NightHawkTheSane | or subway |
| 23:23.20 | Shirik | I had wendy's last night |
| 23:23.35 | NightHawkTheSane | mcdonald's food is considered a form of torture by the geneva convention |
| 23:24.06 | batrick | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:24.21 | batrick | ~hate |
| 23:24.22 | purl | ,,|, |
| 23:24.30 | batrick | batbot: do u hate purl? |
| 23:24.31 | batbot | batrick, \(o_O)/ |
| 23:26.09 | Shirik | purl, say batbot, do you hate me? |
| 23:26.09 | purl | batbot, do you hate me |
| 23:26.14 | Shirik | boo |
| 23:26.19 | Shirik | batbot, stop ignoring purl |
| 23:27.03 | batrick | purl: say !8ball do u hate me? |
| 23:27.04 | purl | !8ball do u hate me |
| 23:27.04 | batbot | purl, Most likely. |
| 23:27.31 | Shirik | hmm, that could have gotten ugly |
| 23:27.43 | Shirik | purl, most likely |
| 23:29.45 | Shirik | --> batbot(); |
| 23:29.46 | batbot | Shirik: > batbot |
| 23:29.49 | Shirik | purl, batbot |
| 23:29.50 | purl | --> batbot(); |
| 23:29.57 | Shirik | boo |
| 23:30.11 | Shirik | I'll stop playing around and go get some food |
| 23:37.11 | Cairenn | Shirik, ScytheBlade1, Antiarc: got another one for you guys :) http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14656 |
| 23:37.26 | Shirik | I'm actually already all over that :P |
| 23:37.35 | Cairenn | I love you guys so much! |
| 23:39.28 | Shirik | However the md5 of UI Central matches that which I had downloaded last week and verified as acceptable |
| 23:39.32 | Shirik | so that's not the source |
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| 23:50.55 | clad|sleep | night all |
| 23:54.48 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Seracht (i=Seracht@207-237-255-145.c3-0.nyr-ubr4.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) |
| 23:54.48 | Seracht | Hey |
| 23:55.30 | Seracht | can you guys help me with something if you have a couple mins |
| 23:55.46 | clad|sleep | queue 3 ~ask2ask |
| 23:56.03 | Seracht | http://www.uploadhouse.com/viewfile.php?id=1105580&PHPSESSID=937800057d280e9d3dc0daa0bdc597d7 can you tell me which UI this is |
| 23:56.13 | Seracht | and what addons you see |
| 23:59.11 | Cidan | perhaps |
| 23:59.20 | Cidan | Only if you send my good friend Shirik some mcdonnalds |
| 23:59.24 | Cidan | He's quite hungry you see |
| 23:59.36 | Seracht | sure what's his address |
| 23:59.45 | Shirik | sorry clad|sleep, I wasn't watching |
| 23:59.47 | Shirik | ~asktoask |
| 23:59.47 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
