00:05.46 | malreth | Geoduck males can ejaculate constantly for 10 to 15 minutes |
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00:11.40 | malreth | so is purl... o_o |
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00:24.27 | malreth | Shirik has trouble keeping it up |
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00:42.16 | Shirik|Ecole | there, shouldn't keep disconnecting/reconnecting |
00:42.21 | Shirik|Ecole | stupid computer at home >.> |
00:42.41 | malreth | o_o |
00:42.52 | Shirik|Ecole | it's only temporary :P Just so I don't flood the channel |
00:45.05 | Shirik|Ecole | since you said I have "trouble keeping it up" :P |
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00:51.51 | NightHawkTheSane | so.. you're solution for having trouble keeping it up is to keep it down permanently? |
00:54.00 | Shirik|Ecole | NightHawkTheSane: Exactly. |
00:54.15 | malreth | http://www.wowhead.com/?modelviewer=43263 |
00:54.42 | JoshBorke | that is AWESOME |
00:57.29 | Shirik|Ecole | malreth Does that work for any item? |
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00:57.52 | malreth | anything in wowhead's db |
00:58.08 | Shirik|Ecole | How do you get to it? |
00:59.52 | malreth | there's a View 3D model link on every item page |
01:01.35 | malreth | i've got house guests now |
01:01.37 | malreth | later |
01:01.38 | Shirik|Ecole | Doesn't work for clothing it seems =() |
01:01.39 | Shirik|Ecole | =( |
01:01.47 | malreth | oh yeah... only for weapons for now |
01:01.56 | malreth | but they'll be adding player models for armor soon |
01:01.58 | malreth | later |
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01:06.26 | Guillotine | Every time I'm reading through wowbash and see someone using TTN I revel. Is there something wrong with me? |
01:10.35 | Kaso | Its nice to see people using your stuff |
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01:54.49 | Cairenn | lol |
01:54.50 | Cairenn | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozzMlJSbDHQ |
01:55.08 | bleeter | can anyone explain to me the 'bonus honor' column in the AV table. Rogue buddy of mine, same server, we're sitting next to each other, enter BG same time, pretty much do everything together. At the end of the battle, for everyone in the BG he's showing a different 'bonus honor' awarded to every team member total comapred to me. What gives? |
01:56.14 | Guillotine | one of you has an addon that attempts to calculate "more accurate" honor would be my guess |
01:56.21 | kd3 | did you both enter mid-battle? |
01:56.38 | kd3 | bonus honor doesn't change |
01:56.48 | bleeter | both entered at start of battle |
01:57.01 | kd3 | not in the BG score display |
01:57.02 | bleeter | as far as I know, neither have such an addon Guillotine (ie, not by intent) |
01:57.04 | kd3 | huh, weird. get tagged afk at an inopportune time? |
01:57.15 | bleeter | neither have had AFK debuff |
01:57.50 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3547877767&sid=1 |
01:57.55 | Guillotine | I had the same problem where my gf and I showed different amounts of honor. Turned out some random addon that I thought just tracked arena stats also affected the end frames |
01:58.33 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: huh? no, that makes no send. for each and every player on his screen, say it's showing 500 bonus honor, on my screen it's showing they receive 450 honor |
01:58.41 | bleeter | er s/send/sense/ |
01:58.54 | bleeter | or, on my screen it's showing 500 bonus, and on his it's 450. |
01:59.20 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter: I just read the first 1/4 of your "can you explain" and then linked you, haha. |
01:59.24 | Beladona | maybe he isn't good at math |
02:02.38 | bleeter | Guillotine: well, thanks for the tip... will investigate the mods |
02:03.24 | Shirik|Ecole | ~dict bent |
02:03.43 | Shirik|Ecole | ~dict 1 bent |
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02:11.47 | bleeter | wtb: US Forum Administrator... |
02:11.52 | Guillotine | wow, the general forums have really gone to the dogshe |
02:11.56 | Guillotine | dogs* |
02:12.12 | Guillotine | damn you cgi IRC :( I would have beaten bleeter |
02:12.46 | bleeter | N-i__g_g__e.r Jokes ...Hitler - Was he really a bad guy? .... The Jews Started all the Wars ... |
02:12.59 | bleeter | lol Guillotine irssi ftw! :P |
02:14.09 | Guillotine | plus all those ones that aren't as offensive, but are still against forum rules like "Should we leave IRAQ?" and such |
02:14.43 | bleeter | yar, the other religious posts.. etc. etc., all OT or deletable |
02:15.03 | Guillotine | oh, heres another very offensive one. "God hates F @ G S" |
02:15.08 | bleeter | I honestly don't recall recently it being this bad, maybe one of the CM Noobs is by themselves this weekend, and is a little snowed under |
02:15.18 | Guillotine | damn, where are the moderators? :( |
02:15.30 | bleeter | *No offence to the new CM folks, we do love you really! :D |
02:15.49 | bleeter | Guillotine: maybe they're storing up bansticks |
02:16.46 | bleeter | haha: Capping towers= 100 honor , Turning in blood= 25 honor, Killing the general= 100 honor, Pissing Alliance off.... priceless |
02:18.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Looks like an offtopic raid. |
02:19.29 | Guillotine | bleeter: lol |
02:21.47 | Beladona | you know whats amazing |
02:22.05 | bleeter | Beladona: my genius? |
02:22.37 | Beladona | performing a merge of data from another network into yours after a corporate merge. And finding all of the idiotic duplicate data |
02:22.55 | bleeter | hah |
02:23.02 | Beladona | I found 6 copies of the same directory that was apparently accidentally mis-clicked and dragged |
02:23.21 | Beladona | and every time, they just restored it from a backup |
02:24.18 | Beladona | Monday people are going to wonder how we halved our storage usage |
02:24.23 | Beladona | hehe |
02:25.22 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4028097926&sid=1 |
02:25.23 | ScytheBlade1 | l o l |
02:27.34 | Beladona | is that a repost by the same guy? |
02:27.49 | Beladona | I swear I replied to one with the same topic |
02:27.54 | Gngsk | I used to be worried about my account getting banned becuase of addons until I got myself a tin foil hat |
02:29.45 | bleeter | I'm still wild that [Tin Foil Hat] was Apr 1st joke, and not a real engi item |
02:31.05 | Guillotine | wtf. They locked "N-i__g_g__e.r Jokes" instead of deleting it |
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02:31.33 | bleeter | maybe they're good jokes? |
02:32.08 | Guillotine | >_< |
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02:34.49 | Rayne | This has probably been asked alot, but how do I make my bartender bars autohide when im not in combat, and unhide when I am. O_o |
02:36.21 | [dRaCo] | not possible with bt3 alone |
02:36.37 | [dRaCo] | there's some addon out there for hiding frames, though |
02:36.53 | Guillotine | theres an easy way around it though. Just log out every time you leave combat and disable the addon |
02:37.03 | Guillotine | (really, I have no idea) |
02:37.14 | Rayne | I miss Alphablending. :( |
02:40.42 | Thrae | http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot122907051302no0.jpg <-- hmmm, what UI is that? |
02:41.34 | Guillotine | dunno, but its pretty nice |
02:42.00 | Guillotine | somebody needs to write an algorithm that compares a part of a screenshot to screenshots of known addons for a similar one |
02:42.11 | Guillotine | actually, the system load would be way too much :( |
02:42.20 | Rayne | think I might of found what I needed |
02:44.55 | Rayne | lets see |
02:46.09 | Rayne | Nope! That didnt work. |
02:48.01 | Rayne | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6966-AlphaBlending.html Miss it :( |
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02:51.13 | Rayne | gd it |
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02:52.38 | Rayne | |Jelly|: Any idea? |
02:54.04 | JoshBorke | thrae: specifically the buttons at the bottom? |
02:59.21 | kd3 | gah, the StinkyQueue QQing is getting annoying |
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03:13.54 | NightHawkTheSane | god this group moves so slowly |
03:14.31 | Rayne | oh wow, Alphablending still works O_o |
03:17.38 | MentalPower | why would it not work |
03:17.41 | Rayne | Just hasnt been updated for almost a year |
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03:33.05 | MentalPower | love the songs, hate the movie |
03:33.29 | Lopeppeppy | What did you not like, MentalPower? |
03:33.46 | MentalPower | too much blood for my linking |
03:33.53 | MentalPower | liking* |
03:34.16 | Lopeppeppy | That was't blood, it was cherry-orange jello. It was entirely over the top, I do agree... but it just made me laugh. |
03:34.59 | MentalPower | my BF and I left... in shock |
03:35.19 | MentalPower | we were expecting a much... how should I say this... friendly film |
03:36.05 | Lopeppeppy | It's Tim Burton and a famous mass murderer.... that's just not a potentially friendly combo. |
03:37.10 | MentalPower | neither did my bf |
03:39.19 | MentalPower | we just saw: musical + tim burton + johnny depp |
03:39.19 | Lopeppeppy | Ooooh.... "Demon Barber of Fleet Street" is a strong tag line. But yeah, if you're not of a morbid mind like mine, you wouldn't necessariy know abut meat pies. |
03:39.19 | MentalPower | and the tagline was suppressed over here |
03:39.19 | MentalPower | we didn't see it till the movie started |
03:39.19 | MentalPower | at any rate, we learned |
03:39.39 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah... it's not a subtle movie by any stretch of the imagination. |
03:40.50 | Lopeppeppy | I watched it before dinner... .now I'm watching "Finding Nemo" for balance. |
03:42.43 | MentalPower | lol |
03:42.45 | MentalPower | nice |
03:42.55 | MentalPower | you have kids? |
03:43.03 | MentalPower | or did you just buy it for yourself |
03:43.03 | Lopeppeppy | Nope. Me and my kitty and my male. |
03:43.16 | End | mew? |
03:43.33 | Lopeppeppy | Meow, End. She has a northeastern accent, adds letters to her words. :) |
03:43.51 | Lopeppeppy | I just like some of the kids' movies, MentalPower. Shrek, Disney, Pixar, all good. |
03:44.01 | MentalPower | yup me too |
03:44.14 | Lopeppeppy | The dialog is easier to play drinking games to. |
03:44.14 | MentalPower | I'm a music buff, so I have all the soundtracks |
03:44.20 | MentalPower | lol |
03:44.21 | Lopeppeppy | Ooops, was that out loud? *winks* |
03:44.55 | Lopeppeppy | "The Fountain" is deep and dark, and "Pan's Labyrinth" is exceptionally disturbing... but Nemo always delivers, without bad dreams. |
03:46.01 | Lopeppeppy | "Hi, I'm Dory!" |
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03:55.13 | Lopeppeppy | Why we can't know 12 hours ahead of time whether we're raiding or not, I just cannot fathom. |
03:59.37 | [dRaCo] | why don't you know? |
04:01.08 | MentalPower | attendance issues? |
04:01.09 | Lopeppeppy | Raid leader procrastinates making the roster until about 6 hours prior. There are 32 people signed up, it shouldn't be rocket science. |
04:01.36 | Lopeppeppy | "Just keep swimming, swimming, swimming...." |
04:01.58 | Lopeppeppy | Just vexes me that signup cutoff is 48 hours in advance, roster isn't posted until about 6 hours prior. |
04:04.14 | Lopeppeppy | I've backed out at 3 hours prior, "I guess we must not be raiding, there's no roster". Peeves them to no end. :) |
04:09.20 | Wobin | German is great. I mean, any language that has the words "Ubeltater" and "Kreuzige" can't be too bad =) |
04:11.18 | MentalPower | ~tr gb en Kreuzige |
04:11.35 | MentalPower | ... |
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04:11.35 | End | ~x gb en Kreuzige |
04:11.43 | End | E INDEED |
04:11.49 | MentalPower | thanks End |
04:11.59 | MentalPower | ~x gb en Ubeltater |
04:12.00 | End | wait, gb? |
04:12.06 | End | don't you want de? |
04:12.07 | MentalPower | lol |
04:12.10 | MentalPower | yeah |
04:12.17 | MentalPower | ~x de en Ubeltater |
04:12.27 | End | lol |
04:12.33 | MentalPower | ~x de en Kreuzige |
04:12.43 | MentalPower | purl you suck |
04:12.44 | purl | and very well I might add |
04:13.06 | MentalPower | ~literal you suck |
04:13.07 | purl | "you suck" is "<reply> and very well I might add" |
04:13.14 | MentalPower | ~literal sucks |
04:13.16 | purl | "sucks" is "<reply> only if you ask nicely and pay well." |
04:13.47 | Lopeppeppy | I LOVE purl. |
04:19.08 | End | anyways |
04:19.22 | End | face! |
04:20.42 | Lopeppeppy | Bottom! |
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04:31.18 | Rayne | hrm |
04:32.09 | Lopeppeppy | mmm? |
04:37.07 | Rayne | iunno |
04:44.00 | bleeter | http://regmedia.co.uk/2008/01/19/macbookcommodorecompare.jpg |
04:44.05 | kd3 | oh wow. any atlantans active |
04:44.07 | kd3 | ? |
04:44.28 | |Jelly| | 11 hour work day. *sigh* |
04:44.36 | kd3 | ahahaha |
04:45.32 | kd3 | wow... my jaw's still on the floor |
04:45.33 | kd3 | the AJC just endorsed obama |
04:45.43 | bleeter | AJC? |
04:46.05 | kd3 | the atlanta-journal constitution |
04:47.05 | bleeter | mm, I think I'm missing something... something that 'journal' might give away at some later stage.. hmm |
04:47.48 | kd3 | newspaper |
04:47.53 | kd3 | http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/opinion/stories/2008/01/18/endorsed_0120.html |
04:48.31 | Lopeppeppy | Work sucks, weekend work sucks more, and more than 8 hours sucks harder. |
04:48.47 | |Jelly| | Waiting tables. :( |
04:49.00 | |Jelly| | So that means Jelly has to be nice. lol |
04:49.11 | Lopeppeppy | For 11 hours straight? F that. |
04:49.25 | kd3 | agh, I could never stand waiting tables. working retail was about as far as I was willing to go in the service industry |
04:50.33 | |Jelly| | I actually like my job. It's just stressful [for me] over extended periods |
04:50.47 | Lopeppeppy | What happened to 8 hour work shifts? |
04:51.09 | |Jelly| | I don't know. I usually work like 3-5 hour shifts. |
04:51.45 | Lopeppeppy | You got scrod. Take a very long shower. |
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04:52.01 | jscinoz | hey guys |
04:52.10 | |Jelly| | hi |
04:52.22 | jscinoz | im working on a very short perl script to convert wowhead maps to cartographer databases. |
04:52.30 | jscinoz | one thing i need to know is. |
04:52.59 | jscinoz | heres an excerpt from my database "[78804005] = "Windy Cloud"," how does cartographer store these coordinates, i cant seem to figure it out |
04:53.18 | jscinoz | ie its not 78.80,40.05 from that, its something else and i dont know >_< |
04:54.23 | bleeter | jscinoz: you'd prolly be better off asking the carto author, prolly found in #wowace |
04:54.44 | bleeter | if not, prolly likely, given it's a wowace mod, you'll find someone in that channel who can help |
05:02.19 | Wobin | hm, anyone know why the 'mod' in macros might not work? |
05:02.51 | Rayne | Gah |
05:02.56 | Rayne | Leo to 8% >_< |
05:03.01 | kd3 | if your macro's at z, you're using [mod:shift] and you've got something else bound to shift+z, the shift+z binding wins |
05:03.21 | Lopeppeppy | Rayne, Leo's a tough bastich in that last 10% |
05:03.42 | Wobin | kd3: I'm shiftclicking |
05:03.50 | Wobin | or altclicking |
05:03.54 | Wobin | or ctrlclicking |
05:03.59 | Rayne | Lopeppeppy: He really is... |
05:04.08 | Rayne | We have it like the first few whirlwinds |
05:04.13 | Rayne | then it goes downhill |
05:04.22 | kd3 | which action bar mod are you using? |
05:05.13 | Wobin | hm, bt3 |
05:05.29 | kd3 | got the most recent version? |
05:05.36 | Lopeppeppy | Rayne, it came down to duck and cover for my raid group. DPS ducks and bobs, most of the melee die, and the ranged take him out. If we're lucky. :) |
05:05.41 | Wobin | I imagine so? |
05:05.57 | Wobin | 56537 |
05:06.01 | kd3 | I know bt's been broken before wrt modded clicks |
05:06.03 | Wobin | 3.1.2 |
05:06.51 | kd3 | I wouldn't know if it's newest, I use bongos. may want to ask in wowace. is it working if you just use the keyboard? |
05:07.16 | Wobin | hm |
05:09.47 | Rayne | I might change BBCs layout for V10, and get rid of Grid and go back to PitBulls raid interface. |
05:10.26 | Lopeppeppy | I cannot grok Grid no matter how hard I try. |
05:10.38 | Rayne | Its great, dont get me wrong |
05:10.49 | Rayne | but in a raid it takes up soooo much real estate for a tank. :/ |
05:10.54 | kd3 | I <3 grid |
05:11.28 | End | grid is okay I think |
05:11.35 | Lopeppeppy | I can't wrap my head around the colors and the shape and the little dots. |
05:11.47 | End | I like perfect raid better, except grid is more compact |
05:12.06 | Lopeppeppy | PerfectRaid is my choice as well. |
05:12.15 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [-b *!*@2002 44cc:9fc2:0:0:0:44cc:9fc2 ] by Shirik|Ecole |
05:12.16 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Shirik|Ecole -> #wowi-lounge: Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.3.x ToC: 20300 | "Wanting to kill someone and hide her whorish body? Yes. Of course." - Lopeppeppy |
05:12.22 | Shirik|Ecole | oops |
05:12.28 | Shirik|Ecole | did I change the topic? o.o |
05:12.35 | End | apparently |
05:12.38 | End | well |
05:12.40 | End | you touched it |
05:12.44 | End | didn't actually changed it :P |
05:12.50 | Shirik|Ecole | stupid client ... |
05:13.58 | Lopeppeppy | You just cuddled it, my enigmatic quote remains. :) |
05:14.32 | TecnoBrat | Lopeppeppy, you want to kill my ex? |
05:15.28 | Lopeppeppy | Nope, the chick distracting my husband and ruining my marriage. |
05:15.53 | TecnoBrat | you sure its not my ex? |
05:15.56 | TecnoBrat | :P |
05:16.03 | Lopeppeppy | You live in CT? |
05:16.30 | Thunder_Child | say yes say yes |
05:17.02 | TecnoBrat | lol no, I live in BC, Canada .. but that didn't stop her from getting involved with a guy 20 years older than her in texas :P |
05:17.19 | TecnoBrat | so it still could be! |
05:17.55 | Lopeppeppy | I doubt she's your sloppy seconds then. Everyone else's but not yours. |
05:17.56 | TecnoBrat | And I don't know what this is ... |
05:17.58 | TecnoBrat | http://ross.fappett.com/misc/SIIIIIIIIIICK.jpg |
05:18.01 | TecnoBrat | But it works |
05:18.27 | End | wtf |
05:18.28 | End | ok |
05:18.36 | End | I'm getting retarded lag spikes in WoW |
05:18.51 | Lopeppeppy | Welcome to a holiday weekend, End? |
05:19.01 | TecnoBrat | holiday? |
05:19.03 | End | normally it isn't an issue for me |
05:19.05 | End | interesting |
05:19.14 | Lopeppeppy | Looks like a seal attacking a penguin, TecnoBrat. Pretty common. |
05:19.15 | Thunder_Child | TecnoBrat, tis for us americans |
05:19.16 | End | gah |
05:19.18 | TecnoBrat | wtf holiday is it? |
05:19.30 | Rayne | how the fuck does a feral druid NOT kill his inner demon. |
05:19.32 | Thunder_Child | monday...something |
05:19.33 | Rayne | HOW. |
05:19.34 | Lopeppeppy | Martin Luther King day in the states is Monday. |
05:19.35 | Rayne | HOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW |
05:19.39 | kd3 | MLK |
05:19.43 | TecnoBrat | ahhhh a penguin ... |
05:19.55 | Lopeppeppy | Rayne -- is he/she moving from bear to cat? |
05:20.00 | Rayne | in cat |
05:20.02 | Rayne | whole time |
05:20.40 | kd3 | >.>; |
05:20.40 | Lopeppeppy | That's.... not so very right. Targeting issues perhaps? Or a few VERY unlucky misses/parries? |
05:20.40 | kd3 | I've gotten distracted and missed my demon before as a mage |
05:20.40 | TecnoBrat | lol .. I could kill mine in my healing gear, pre-healing +dmg changes |
05:20.40 | TecnoBrat | on my paladin |
05:20.41 | TecnoBrat | without switching weapons |
05:20.52 | Lopeppeppy | When I die to mine, it's because I can't target it. It winds up behind me, or I accidentally clicked someone else's... ugly. |
05:20.53 | End | ok |
05:20.55 | Lopeppeppy | Always targeting for me. |
05:20.57 | TecnoBrat | with 2-3 secs to spare |
05:20.57 | Rayne | If I can kill mine as prot no problem, anyone can kill it. |
05:21.00 | End | there's something wrong with my lan |
05:21.01 | TecnoBrat | so yea ... |
05:21.04 | TecnoBrat | they suck |
05:21.15 | End | or my computer |
05:21.43 | Rayne | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/SinOfDreams/WoWScrnShot_011908_212933.jpg heres how I look idle atm. |
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05:22.15 | End | goddammirt |
05:22.27 | Rayne | <3 Alphablending |
05:22.52 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Gargamel (i=UPP@223.92.124.24.cm.sunflower.com) |
05:22.58 | End | wtf |
05:23.00 | End | ... |
05:23.40 | End | I can ping my router from my desktop, yet only my wireless on my laptop can get to the outside world |
05:23.49 | kd3 | forums just go splat for anyone else? |
05:24.11 | Rayne | lost 2 healers and a DPS in the middle of Leo |
05:24.12 | End | well, I can't reach them either |
05:24.14 | Lopeppeppy | My refresh seems normal, kd3. |
05:24.16 | TecnoBrat | <krag0th|Mac> I can't connect to anything blizzard |
05:24.23 | End | Rayne: wait, just now? |
05:24.24 | End | oh |
05:24.25 | TecnoBrat | sounds like blizzard might be having issues? |
05:24.31 | End | that's interesting |
05:24.38 | End | I only tried connecting to vent and WoW from desktop |
05:25.01 | End | not just Blizzard is my feeling |
05:25.11 | End | ok |
05:25.14 | End | my desktop works |
05:25.18 | End | just can't connect to WoW |
05:25.46 | TecnoBrat | so it is just blizzard? :P |
05:25.51 | End | no |
05:25.55 | End | vent fails too |
05:25.58 | sysrage | zul'jin just took a shit |
05:26.04 | sysrage | i can't connect. was just playing a min ago |
05:26.08 | End | uh, wtf |
05:26.16 | TecnoBrat | traceroute? |
05:26.17 | Lopeppeppy | The forums just crapped for me too. |
05:26.18 | End | I can't even do a dns lookup to do a traceroute :P |
05:26.18 | kd3 | wonder if the LA datacenter just lost sync |
05:26.26 | End | kd3: yeah, probably a router died |
05:26.45 | kd3 | ya, I can't get in either. stuck at connecting |
05:26.48 | kd3 | auth must be hosed |
05:27.03 | End | I'm glad I'm not the only one with problems |
05:27.05 | End | wait, no I'm not |
05:27.09 | kd3 | s/auth/the LA datacenter/ |
05:27.10 | End | if I was the only one, I could fix it |
05:27.34 | Duman | AAAAAAARGH |
05:27.38 | End | being not the only one means it isn't my fault, and thus I'm stuck :P |
05:27.40 | Duman | my battlegroup just died |
05:27.48 | Duman | (Vindication) |
05:27.49 | End | Duman: welcome to our world |
05:27.50 | Duman | or at least, Gilneas died |
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05:27.58 | Wobin | bah |
05:28.02 | Corrodias | i'm logging into wow extremely slowly |
05:28.04 | TecnoBrat | <PROTECTED> |
05:28.04 | TecnoBrat | Warsong Realm |
05:28.04 | TecnoBrat | A whole bunch of servers just crashed. |
05:28.04 | Wobin | Argent Dawn just stopped =P |
05:28.09 | TecnoBrat | = forums |
05:28.12 | Corrodias | mine's down |
05:28.22 | TecnoBrat | the top 10 posts are realm down posts :P |
05:28.24 | End | not only that |
05:28.27 | Duman | horsecock! |
05:28.33 | Duman | I was just pwning faces, too |
05:28.35 | End | but my connection to this computer is a bit laggier now |
05:28.35 | Duman | ;-) |
05:28.37 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/US_Realm_List_By_Datacenter |
05:28.41 | Corrodias | do people actually post on the wow forums just to say "hay my realm is down wut" |
05:28.48 | kd3 | yes |
05:28.54 | TecnoBrat | lol yes |
05:29.04 | Lopeppeppy | All the damn time. |
05:29.07 | End | it's good to report that sometimes, if it's an isp problem |
05:29.20 | Corrodias | WoW General: You will never find a more wretched hive of trolls and noobery. |
05:29.25 | kd3 | I still can't get to the forums |
05:29.26 | End | sometimes it's hard to tell where the problem is at first :P |
05:29.34 | TecnoBrat | LOL |
05:29.36 | End | and I can't traceroute the problem anyways |
05:29.38 | TecnoBrat | tech forum is worse |
05:29.42 | End | unless someone give me an ip :P |
05:29.44 | TecnoBrat | at least 20 posts |
05:29.46 | TecnoBrat | AT LEAST |
05:30.00 | Duman | hmm |
05:30.07 | TecnoBrat | "Terrorist BOMBED BLIZZARD HQ" |
05:30.08 | TecnoBrat | wow.. |
05:30.14 | Corrodias | lol |
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05:30.35 | Corrodias | my first reaction is to check this channel to ensure it's not just me, then wait for a little while. :/ |
05:30.55 | Bela|afk | End -- check that last link |
05:31.03 | Bela|afk | to get stuff to tracert |
05:31.09 | kd3 | damn it. wonder if I can ssh to work and see if I can get to the forums from there |
05:31.13 | bleeter | wow big crash |
05:31.16 | Duman | actually, hmm |
05:31.17 | End | Bela|afk: I can't get an address via dns |
05:31.25 | End | well |
05:31.29 | End | I could ping my realm |
05:31.30 | End | I guess |
05:31.44 | Bela|afk | its an at&t router |
05:31.46 | Bela|afk | for me |
05:31.51 | End | I was trying the forums |
05:31.55 | TecnoBrat | what realm? |
05:31.57 | Bela|afk | tbr2.attga.ip.att.net |
05:31.58 | *** join/#wowi-lounge batrick_ (n=batrick@c-68-35-186-180.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) |
05:32.00 | End | but my dns is borked |
05:32.14 | Duman | what was their syntax for DNS entries for a given realm? |
05:32.22 | Duman | like realm.us.worldofwarcraft.com ? |
05:33.11 | End | yay traceroute |
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05:33.35 | Bela|afk | definitely looks like an internet problem, not a blizz specific problem |
05:33.38 | Duman | lft > traceroute ;) |
05:33.42 | End | 192.205.35.53 for me |
05:33.46 | End | yeah, it's an internet problem |
05:33.50 | End | it barely leaves qwest |
05:33.50 | ccox | major internet problem |
05:33.51 | End | and then fails |
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05:34.01 | TecnoBrat | what server end? |
05:34.05 | TecnoBrat | err realm |
05:34.05 | Lopeppeppy | too bad it won't dump AD. |
05:34.08 | End | bonechewer |
05:34.10 | ccox | Half of my sourceforge links are failing |
05:34.13 | End | LA datacenter |
05:34.15 | End | incidently |
05:34.17 | sysrage | pretty massive downage... never seen everything go down at the same time before |
05:34.26 | Furl | Hah. |
05:34.29 | ccox | Most likely network equip |
05:34.33 | Furl | Someone nuked LA? |
05:34.36 | Bela|afk | thats a lot of different paths |
05:34.38 | Duman | datacenter power outage, perhaps ;-) |
05:34.42 | Duman | those are always fun |
05:34.45 | End | Duman: no |
05:34.45 | Bela|afk | mine is in geirgie |
05:34.49 | Bela|afk | georgia |
05:34.50 | ccox | or a major router upstream |
05:34.52 | Bela|afk | where it fails |
05:35.04 | End | I have 3 or 4 hops -at least- before I reach bonechewer's border router |
05:35.09 | Duman | well, they *are* single-homed to AT&T, perhaps AT&T is sucking wind |
05:35.10 | End | alsop |
05:35.11 | End | also |
05:35.35 | Duman | what's bonechewer's IP? |
05:35.37 | Bela|afk | my vent works though |
05:35.38 | bleeter | their single AT&T home is teh fail |
05:35.40 | Bela|afk | and its in Dallas |
05:35.43 | Bela|afk | same as my realm |
05:35.49 | End | 12.129.233.13 |
05:35.56 | End | that's bonechewer |
05:36.02 | End | http://www.wowwiki.com/US_Realm_List_By_Datacenter |
05:36.10 | Duman | oh, hi.. heh |
05:36.38 | End | anyways, yeah, not Blizzard's fault specifically |
05:36.40 | Duman | 13 12.122.255.74 206.6ms |
05:36.40 | Duman | 14 mdf001c7613r0003-gig-10-1.lax1.attens.net (12.129.193.242) 21.0ms |
05:36.40 | Duman | ** [3624/tcp failed] Try alternate options or use -V to see packets. |
05:36.41 | End | AT&T probably |
05:36.59 | Corrodias | i feel an urge to play a Zelda game |
05:37.05 | End | Duman: works for you it looks like |
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05:37.13 | End | I can't traceroute that far |
05:37.33 | End | When doing a traceroute to servers in Los Angeles, the last hop should be one of the following: |
05:37.36 | End | * 12.129.193.242 * 12.129.193.246 |
05:37.41 | End | so, you are hitting blizzard |
05:37.54 | End | or the nearest edge to blizzard we cna hit |
05:37.58 | ccox | I can't even get to some of the sourceforge mirrors, darnit |
05:38.08 | End | yea |
05:38.42 | Lopeppeppy | still hasn't dumped AD. More's the pity. |
05:38.49 | TecnoBrat | I can hit 12.129.193.242 from my server in teaxs |
05:38.57 | bleeter | you know who I blame??!!! |
05:38.59 | TecnoBrat | but thats where it dies :P |
05:39.01 | bleeter | CIDE!!! BASTARD!!! |
05:39.20 | sysrage | stuff seems to be back |
05:39.31 | Corrodias | not for me |
05:39.32 | sysrage | now you just hafta deal with the 50000 ppl trying to connect at the same time |
05:39.35 | Corrodias | you insensitive marm |
05:39.49 | Duman | yeah I can get to 12.129.193.242 |
05:39.50 | Duman | but that's a router |
05:39.56 | End | yeah |
05:40.00 | End | but I can't get that far |
05:40.31 | Corrodias | aw, my realm was an old one, but it never got above medium population. only around the release of BC did it ever have queues, and very short ones at that |
05:40.31 | TecnoBrat | http://www.internetpulse.net/ |
05:40.37 | Corrodias | and now it's down to Low on the list |
05:40.44 | Duman | yes, AT&T died |
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05:40.51 | TecnoBrat | http://www.bluehill.com/weather/ |
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05:41.39 | Furl | Hah. |
05:41.39 | TecnoBrat | THE TUBES R KLOGGED |
05:41.41 | End | Blizzard might shit some bricks over this one :P |
05:41.53 | TecnoBrat | Its not specific to blizzard dude |
05:41.57 | End | yes I know |
05:41.59 | TecnoBrat | check the links I just posted |
05:42.11 | TecnoBrat | there is MAJOR backbone issues atm |
05:42.20 | Duman | yeah AT&T blew up |
05:42.21 | End | but they won't be happy with certain ...people |
05:42.33 | TecnoBrat | Blizzard can't control the whole internet .. lol |
05:42.39 | Duman | wel |
05:42.41 | Duman | well |
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05:42.46 | Duman | they can be NOT STUPID |
05:42.47 | End | I'm betting Blizzard..knows people |
05:42.48 | ccox | just the net that MATTERS! :-) |
05:42.50 | Duman | and get more than 1 provider |
05:42.57 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o Shirik|zZz] by ChanServ |
05:43.01 | Duman | being single-homed is just plain dumb |
05:43.07 | TecnoBrat | Duman, its not just AT&T |
05:43.22 | Bela|afk | http://www.internetpulse.net/Main.aspx?xAxis=Destination&yAxis=Origin&zAxis=Metric&nAxis=Period |
05:43.24 | ScytheBlade1 | It's not blizzard |
05:43.27 | Bela|afk | how is that not at&t |
05:43.27 | Duman | looks like AT&T to me |
05:43.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Some core router is getting a nice DDoS |
05:43.32 | End | I'm hoping, someone at blizzard is on the phone trying to figure out what's going on :P |
05:43.38 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm on my cell phone internsts atm :( |
05:43.40 | TecnoBrat | http://www.internetpulse.net/ |
05:43.51 | ScytheBlade1 | *internets |
05:43.54 | TecnoBrat | Do you see the other providers, that aren't AT&T on that page? |
05:43.56 | Bela|afk | if its not at&t, its every pipe that connects to at&t, which is a huge coincidence |
05:44.10 | TecnoBrat | Like the NTT / Global Crossing link |
05:44.12 | Corrodias | yes TecnoBrat, we see them |
05:44.13 | Duman | do you see how EVERYTHING to/from AT&T is red? |
05:44.18 | Corrodias | why are they almost entirely grey? |
05:44.21 | TecnoBrat | Sprint / SBC |
05:44.22 | TecnoBrat | etc |
05:44.23 | Shirik|zZz | yeah at&t's definitely having issues |
05:44.26 | Duman | yes, SBC == AT&T now |
05:44.30 | ccox | Verizon is also hit hard, along with sprint |
05:44.30 | Duman | hellooooooo |
05:44.42 | End | Global Crossing sucks |
05:44.42 | ccox | SBC hasn't integrated their routing equip yet |
05:44.49 | Duman | some is |
05:44.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Oddly |
05:44.52 | ScytheBlade1 | My cell phone internet is working fine, and that's Verizon |
05:44.55 | Duman | true, peering is seperate |
05:44.56 | Shirik|zZz | So much for 5 nines |
05:45.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh yeah, five nines is gone right now |
05:45.48 | Corrodias | 99999? |
05:45.54 | Duman | 99.999% |
05:45.57 | bleeter | 99.999% uptime |
05:45.57 | Duman | (uptime) |
05:46.05 | Duman | more like nine fives right now |
05:46.08 | bleeter | haha |
05:46.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow, AT&T just *died* |
05:46.18 | bleeter | 0.555555555% ? |
05:46.22 | Duman | haha |
05:46.33 | Furl | Teh U.S. internet got fucked. |
05:46.35 | Furl | I blame the druid |
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05:46.42 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+v cogwheel] by ChanServ |
05:46.44 | Corrodias | it hasn't completely died |
05:46.50 | ccox | it doesn't look like just AT&T from here, other links seem to be hosed as well (but could be a cascade) |
05:46.51 | ScytheBlade1 | No |
05:46.56 | Corrodias | i'm connected to the internet through SBC/AT&T as my ISP |
05:46.59 | ScytheBlade1 | But it's dead to the point where everything is being rerouted |
05:47.03 | Bela|afk | http://www.internetpulse.net/Main.aspx?Metric=PL |
05:47.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Exactly |
05:47.11 | TecnoBrat | ccox, probably overloading from the rerouting |
05:47.12 | Corrodias | i guess it's just SBC's equipment |
05:47.28 | End | that wouldn't surprise me |
05:47.44 | End | hahaha |
05:47.45 | End | damn |
05:47.56 | Corrodias | how exciting! |
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05:48.00 | TecnoBrat | ccox, but you are correct, its not just at&t that is being effected, I'm seeing issues with numerous other links (my monitoring for work is going fucking nuts) |
05:48.01 | End | I tried doing a traceroute from a school cs machine |
05:48.13 | End | last hop is the same exact ip :P |
05:48.24 | End | my server in dallas fails on a different ip though |
05:48.30 | ccox | Tecno - yeah, I'm trying private lines from my company (non ATT) and all sorts of things are hosed right now |
05:48.32 | End | at rather |
05:48.40 | ccox | Tecno - but I can't figure out a primary cause |
05:48.48 | End | so yeah |
05:48.49 | ScytheBlade1 | This is so classy |
05:48.57 | ScytheBlade1 | The internet JUST DIED |
05:49.00 | End | I don't have any other way to reach that part of the world :P |
05:49.01 | Shirik | Well, it is likely that AT&T is used as a router between two nodes, even if those two nodes are not related to AT&T |
05:49.01 | Duman | man AT&T is in SEV0 right now |
05:49.11 | Shirik | for various connections |
05:49.16 | End | Shirik: well, it's a backbone issue :P |
05:49.17 | ccox | Aw, crap -= my company's email just went down |
05:49.18 | Corrodias | the internet is down! i'm talking to you via telepathy ;) |
05:49.19 | Shirik | Therefore a link between two nodes can die even if neither is on AT&T |
05:49.26 | bleeter | Shirik: what I find more 'amusing', is that given the lack of forum moderation today, I suspect the CM Newbs are on, they'll love this haha ;) |
05:49.32 | ScytheBlade1 | lol yeah |
05:49.36 | Duman | Again, I reiterate: Blizzard needs more than one freaking transit provider |
05:49.47 | Duman | relying COMPLETELY on one provider (AT&T) is just asking for trouble |
05:49.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Duman: that's not just the problem. My home box can't SSH. |
05:50.01 | End | that's an issue with their datacenter I think? although.. |
05:50.09 | End | my guild's vent is hosed too :P |
05:50.12 | ScytheBlade1 | It's much bigger than them "just" relying on AT&T |
05:50.18 | Bela|afk | this is hardly something you can blame Blizz on |
05:50.21 | Duman | that's fine, if they had another upstream, aside from AT&T, they'd be fine :P |
05:50.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
05:50.28 | Corrodias | i blame blizzard anyway |
05:50.34 | Bela|afk | don't jump on them for that |
05:50.34 | ScytheBlade1 | No, because with AT&T essentially down |
05:50.38 | sysrage | i blame your mom |
05:50.39 | bleeter | I still blame Cide |
05:50.42 | ScytheBlade1 | The strain on all of the other backbones spikes |
05:50.42 | Duman | having only 1 upstream (read: no redundancy) is Blizzard faul ;-) |
05:50.48 | Shirik | \Uh |
05:50.57 | Bela|afk | you don't know what you are talking about |
05:50.58 | sysrage | no, i blame shirik's mom |
05:51.00 | Shirik | The celebrated "five nines" more than justifies a single provider |
05:51.05 | Duman | I don't know what I'm talking about? |
05:51.06 | Duman | haha |
05:51.09 | bleeter | is Cide Shirik's mom? |
05:51.10 | Shirik | 5 minutes downtime per year |
05:51.18 | sysrage | bleeter: could be |
05:51.28 | bleeter | sysrage: would explain a heck of a lot ;) |
05:51.31 | sysrage | :) |
05:51.31 | ScytheBlade1 | It's just fun to watch. The internet is DYING I TELL YOU! |
05:51.41 | ScytheBlade1 | DYING! |
05:51.47 | Corrodias | actually, it should be recovering, no? |
05:51.52 | ccox | (am I still connected?) |
05:51.53 | Furl | It is sorta. |
05:51.55 | ScytheBlade1 | In theory |
05:51.56 | ccox | (ah, good) |
05:51.58 | Shirik | No, actually, this was a plot by several geniuses of the internet |
05:52.01 | bleeter | ccox: no |
05:52.01 | Corrodias | though a bit crippled until AT&T gets shit back online? |
05:52.06 | Shirik | They are killing the IPv4 internet |
05:52.12 | Corrodias | lol |
05:52.15 | Shirik | so that everyone has to finally switch over to IPv6 |
05:52.15 | sysrage | woot. good. ipv6 rocks |
05:52.15 | ScytheBlade1 | If AT&T absolutely died, all of the other backbones are automatically rerouting how they pass data |
05:52.17 | Furl | AT&T seems to be doing it now. |
05:52.18 | ScytheBlade1 | lol yes |
05:52.18 | ccox | bleeter - trying to tunnel this while running VPN into the office |
05:52.20 | ScytheBlade1 | IPv6 ftw! |
05:52.29 | Furl | Hell, I just got the D.C. router to work |
05:52.34 | Duman | hah IPv6 |
05:52.37 | ccox | Scythe - if that were the only issue, it would have rerouted already |
05:52.42 | Shirik | Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : cfl.rr.com |
05:52.42 | Shirik | Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::5dc7:b057:6254:de3c%9 |
05:52.42 | Shirik | IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 68.204.159.194 |
05:52.45 | End | yeah |
05:52.48 | End | it's getting better now |
05:52.54 | End | I can get past that one router now |
05:52.57 | ScytheBlade1 | ccox: with one detail: now all of the other backbones are taking a LOT more traffic than the would normally |
05:53.09 | Furl | aah |
05:53.13 | Furl | The percenage went down |
05:53.15 | Furl | OH NOES |
05:53.24 | End | in fact |
05:53.31 | Corrodias | also, it takes time to update other routers on your router's traffic |
05:53.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
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05:53.46 | bleeter | fwiw, a guildie of mine is claiming the kill of teh interwebz.. but I don't beleive him ... told him 'SS of Killing Blow or didn't happen' |
05:53.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Their poor BGP routers are probably still dying |
05:53.47 | End | in fact, I might be able to connect now |
05:53.55 | ScytheBlade1 | lol win @ bleeter |
05:54.12 | ScytheBlade1 | lol I know what it was |
05:54.13 | Antiarc | http://www.internetpulse.net/Main.aspx?Metric=PL <-- NTT with 4.17% packet loss |
05:54.18 | Lopeppeppy | I said I wanted to kill someone and hide the body... I just picked the wrong routing station to interrupt the affair. |
05:54.32 | ScytheBlade1 | It was AT&T's secret room that only the NSA can access! TERRORISM MUST BE RELATED! |
05:54.52 | cogwheel | anyone have, know where i can find, or know how to extract the minimap textures? (the actual maps themselves, not the border textures) |
05:54.52 | |Jelly| | THE CLOVERFIELD MONSTER IS ATTACKING BLIZZARD! |
05:54.54 | Shirik | We should go invade iran |
05:54.59 | Shirik | it's obviously them killing the internet |
05:55.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, now I'm just being stupid, but seriously, I don't have WoW |
05:55.01 | Antiarc | AT&T is at 79.72% network availability |
05:55.04 | ScytheBlade1 | So don't look at me like that |
05:55.16 | Corrodias | my connection attempt is still getting lost in the tubes. time to wait more. |
05:55.18 | bleeter | well, given the non-moderated (therefore approved?) thread on General Forums, it's prolly a Jewish Plot |
05:55.21 | bleeter | ? |
05:55.21 | End | Blizzard is actively investigating the issue apparently :P |
05:55.27 | End | they put a news status thing up |
05:55.30 | End | on the login screen |
05:55.38 | Corrodias | now if only we could receive that message |
05:55.40 | bleeter | ah sweet, an /alert |
05:55.43 | ccox | every company on the @#$%@#$% net is investigating the issue right now |
05:55.46 | bleeter | Corrodias: you can, just not ingame |
05:55.47 | End | lol yea |
05:55.54 | Bela|afk | ew: http://www.internetpulse.net/Main.aspx?Destination=Dallas |
05:55.58 | End | well, every company worth a damn that's having an issue :P |
05:55.59 | Duman | yeah, my buddies at AT&T say shit blowed up |
05:55.59 | Corrodias | i have to restart the game to see it, then. :/ |
05:56.03 | Duman | <- network engineer |
05:56.06 | ccox | (including more than a few white hats looking at the routers and going "WTF"?) |
05:56.12 | Corrodias | blowed up, eh? |
05:56.14 | bleeter | Corrodias: bookmark http://12.129.242.21/alert |
05:56.19 | Antiarc | It goned boom. |
05:56.35 | Corrodias | cool |
05:56.44 | End | I'm stuck on authenticating |
05:56.44 | ccox | (routers are confused, some connections are intermittent) |
05:56.45 | bleeter | tho I suspect that IP may change |
05:57.00 | bleeter | do a packet capture at game startup to get the DNS entry so the IP don't get stale |
05:57.02 | End | I'm guessing the authentication server might be bogged though |
05:57.04 | ScytheBlade1 | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert |
05:57.10 | ScytheBlade1 | That's the domain they use |
05:57.14 | Duman | still can't get to my realm on port 3724 |
05:57.39 | Corrodias | cool |
05:57.59 | Bela|afk | give it time |
05:58.03 | Bela|afk | it will be back |
05:58.09 | Duman | hmm |
05:58.15 | Corrodias | but i have nothing to DO |
05:58.20 | Corrodias | i already went through my porn for the night |
05:58.23 | Bela|afk | make me some waffles |
05:58.23 | End | gonna see if vent works now |
05:58.27 | Duman | saw soem mention of a fire |
05:58.35 | Duman | in houston |
05:58.38 | Duman | altho |
05:58.45 | Duman | that is like 4th-hand info |
05:58.45 | ccox | Back to WOW development: does anyone know of a good drawing package other than RDX_Quill ? |
05:59.57 | End | I can reach vent now |
06:00.34 | ccox | (why did the internet crash: Alliance won an AV game.) |
06:00.46 | Duman | we win AV all the time |
06:00.49 | Duman | in our BG |
06:00.57 | Corrodias | on my realm, they're winning 3/4 of the games at the moment |
06:00.59 | Corrodias | or were last i checked |
06:01.14 | bleeter | yeah, alliance do OK in my BG, prolly 60% |
06:01.15 | Duman | (Vindication) |
06:01.25 | sysrage | it's about 50/50 unless we use preform in our BG |
06:01.25 | bleeter | Duman: oO |
06:01.33 | ccox | alliance are boycotting ours because they think they lose all the time |
06:01.36 | bleeter | Duman: oh, nm, Vengeance here.. got excited by that V |
06:01.45 | Duman | bleet: yeah, I mix them up sometimes, too :) |
06:01.59 | End | <-- Reckoning |
06:02.06 | End | no idea how AV is though :P |
06:02.27 | End | horde were winning a lot for a while, but I think it reversed itself |
06:02.29 | Duman | Gilneas is where I am.. Llane, Eonar, Kargath, Lightning's Blade, Eredar, Burnign Blade, Shadowmoon, Earthen Ring, Aggramar, Thunderhorn, Malygos, Laughing Skull, Thunderlord, Burning Legion |
06:02.39 | bleeter | ours is good, but sucks real hard monkey nuts between about 2pm and 10pm server time |
06:02.40 | Bela|afk | how does boycotting AV prove anything about them losing it all the time? |
06:02.47 | Bela|afk | doesn't that just make them lose more? |
06:03.12 | bleeter | Bela|afk: 'boycott' is what horde use instead of 'we qq' when alliance realise they can get honor faster elsewhere than in AV ;) |
06:03.24 | Lopeppeppy | I so do not want to go to bed. But 'night guys! |
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06:03.40 | cogwheel | has anyone found an mpq opener that can open common.mpq? |
06:04.17 | Corrodias | why, can't most? |
06:04.27 | cogwheel | not that i've found |
06:04.40 | Corrodias | whoops, now i just get "unable to connect". it died deader. :( |
06:04.57 | Corrodias | interesting. i've never tried, cog. i should check. |
06:05.08 | End | I think mywarcraftstudio can -if- you have a recent version |
06:05.20 | ScytheBlade1 | cogwheel: I've tried to convince ShadowFlare to update WinMPQ to handle the larger MPQs, and she even knows where the bug is |
06:05.24 | ScytheBlade1 | But for whatever reason, she doesn't |
06:05.30 | End | I've mentioned it too |
06:05.44 | End | although I cared because I was using the library |
06:05.50 | MentalPower | interestingly enough, att.com still works |
06:05.53 | Corrodias | mywarcraftstudio can open it, looks like. yeah. |
06:06.19 | Thunder_Child | cogwheel, http://www.cnitblog.com/linghuye/archive/2007/01/28/22395.html |
06:06.39 | bleeter | MentalPower: you'll be pleased to know I resisted the 'ur mom still works' stupidity ;) |
06:06.54 | cogwheel | End: thanks |
06:07.02 | MentalPower | lol |
06:07.52 | End | be careful though, it can't handle some of the model files anymore though (I can get it to crash sometimes) |
06:07.53 | Bela|afk | bed - a daily quest you can't avoid |
06:07.56 | Bela|afk | gnight all |
06:07.59 | ScytheBlade1 | night |
06:08.01 | End | sure you can |
06:08.05 | Thunder_Child | hardly a quest... |
06:08.06 | End | you'll just wish you had done it :P |
06:08.17 | bleeter | gnight Bela|afk, rest well |
06:08.30 | Thunder_Child | has anyone seen juno? |
06:08.54 | TecnoBrat | ROFL |
06:08.55 | TecnoBrat | "Could this have anything to do with a 50 man raid on Iron Forge or perhaps the 200+ man raid on Undercity in retal, seems like that'd be a lot of packets flying around the net.." |
06:09.06 | End | hah |
06:09.08 | TecnoBrat | yes, those 250 people took down a major internet hub |
06:09.09 | TecnoBrat | GG |
06:09.11 | ScytheBlade1 | lol, I wonder if anything is on Digg yet |
06:09.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Aww, there isn't |
06:09.24 | Duman | the whole AT&T backbone is toast |
06:09.31 | End | TecnoBrat: yeah, if they managed to do it, the router was fucked to start with :P |
06:09.37 | TecnoBrat | yea, "hub" wasn't even the right word |
06:09.38 | bleeter | TecnoBrat: w... t... f? |
06:09.38 | Duman | oh shit |
06:09.39 | Duman | <10:09PM dr_g0sp> holy shit there's a fucking fire at the houston AT&T building |
06:09.42 | Corrodias | it's the nagle algorithm |
06:09.46 | TecnoBrat | its the WHOLE backbone |
06:09.48 | Corrodias | that was all that kept us from being in CHAOS |
06:09.51 | Thunder_Child | they should have a redundant line with a diff compant |
06:09.52 | Thunder_Child | y |
06:09.58 | TecnoBrat | Duman, source? |
06:10.18 | Duman | NANOG |
06:10.20 | Corrodias | i don't know |
06:10.25 | Corrodias | but i'm going to spread that rumor |
06:10.29 | Corrodias | it is my duty. |
06:10.31 | Duman | (North America Network Operators Group) |
06:10.34 | Duman | <- network engineer |
06:11.02 | Thunder_Child | i feel for you |
06:11.06 | End | Duman: wow |
06:11.17 | Antiarc | Someone is going to have a really crappy saturday night |
06:11.23 | End | no kidding! |
06:11.53 | TecnoBrat | so I bet that means sprinklers |
06:11.59 | TecnoBrat | whcih .... means dead hardware |
06:11.59 | Duman | and ... evern better |
06:12.01 | Duman | MELTED FIBER |
06:12.11 | TecnoBrat | that too |
06:12.13 | End | yeah, that's gonna be expensive :P |
06:12.22 | TecnoBrat | well, most of that is pretty protected |
06:12.23 | End | gotta clean up, replace everything... |
06:12.25 | Thunder_Child | TecnoBrat, no, not water |
06:12.29 | Thunder_Child | foam |
06:12.29 | End | foam? |
06:12.36 | End | figured as much |
06:12.38 | Antiarc | Data centers use fire-retardent foam |
06:12.40 | Thunder_Child | well a particular type of foam |
06:12.41 | Antiarc | Which doesn't harm hardware |
06:12.54 | Thunder_Child | my HVAC class was a while ago |
06:12.55 | Corrodias | until the computers suffocate |
06:12.59 | Corrodias | and overheat! oh noes! |
06:13.12 | Thunder_Child | Corrodias foam is heat supression |
06:13.18 | Thunder_Child | ish |
06:13.19 | ScytheBlade1 | If they have any computers still running now I'd be shocked |
06:13.23 | Thunder_Child | more oxy i guess |
06:13.26 | End | ^^ |
06:13.44 | Thunder_Child | .me wanders off to the movies |
06:13.50 | Duman | altho now someone is saying it's a Chicago-sourced issue |
06:13.51 | Thunder_Child | s/./// |
06:13.52 | Duman | hmm |
06:14.21 | Antiarc | http://weathermap.grnoc.iu.edu/abilene_jpg.html looks like Washington. |
06:14.49 | bleeter | hmmm |
06:15.02 | Corrodias | internet2 is not our internet |
06:15.08 | Duman | Dallas, St. Louis, and Chicaco |
06:15.08 | bleeter | reading some opening paras of a google search on AT&T and fire, seems they have a problem with exploding batteries |
06:15.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Duman: what about them? |
06:15.29 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter: those are out on the streets, not in the datacenters |
06:15.31 | bleeter | oh, seems these are streetside boxes |
06:15.32 | End | bleeter: that's not new afaik |
06:15.37 | Duman | that's what my AT&T guy is saying |
06:15.40 | Antiarc | Corrodias: Hahaha, I completely missed that |
06:15.41 | Antiarc | Doh. |
06:15.41 | Duman | but not much detail |
06:15.42 | bleeter | well it's 'new' if yer not in the US :P |
06:15.47 | MentalPower | bleeter: that not be it |
06:15.49 | End | and that was where they were replacing 17k batteries I think :P |
06:15.56 | End | (yes, that's 17 thousand) |
06:15.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Duman: all of those places are having issues? |
06:16.55 | Duman | yeah |
06:17.07 | Duman | altho they are refuting the claim of a fire |
06:17.19 | Duman | (which actualyl came from someone NOT at AT&T) |
06:17.24 | End | AT&T is currently experiencing an issue within their networking environment. Our engineers are in contact with AT&T and are awaiting further information as to an ETA for a resolution. We apologize for the inconvenience and will provide another update within 30 minutes. |
06:17.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah I just saw that |
06:17.47 | ScytheBlade1 | That is lol worthy |
06:19.56 | TecnoBrat | http://ipnetwork.bgtmo.ip.att.net/pws/current_network_performance.shtml |
06:19.57 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: better than a poke in the eye with a blunt stick |
06:20.00 | TecnoBrat | That is LOL worthy |
06:20.03 | Duman | turns out they lost some large network gear |
06:20.10 | Duman | in st. louis |
06:20.27 | End | in..st. louis? |
06:20.28 | Corrodias | TecnoBrat: what am i looking for, here? |
06:20.47 | bleeter | Duman: so no fire? |
06:20.47 | TecnoBrat | the fact that EVERYTHING is green |
06:20.49 | TecnoBrat | they lie |
06:20.54 | TecnoBrat | att = liars |
06:21.14 | TecnoBrat | major network outage in their network .. and their current conditions page shows nothing, lol |
06:21.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Or their data just isn't quite that quick to update ;P |
06:21.27 | Corrodias | updated every 15 minutes... yeah, should be showing it |
06:21.40 | TecnoBrat | NOTE: Please refresh this page every 15 minutes to ensure that the most current data is displayed. |
06:21.45 | TecnoBrat | lol |
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06:21.48 | ccox | that ATT graph is pure bullshit |
06:21.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Maybe the script that updates it didn't run due to this ;) |
06:22.17 | TecnoBrat | http://ipnetwork.bgtmo.ip.att.net/pws/network_delay.html |
06:22.29 | Antiarc | That graph shows latency |
06:22.34 | Antiarc | Which is fine, where you can actually connect |
06:22.40 | End | ScytheBlade1: actually, that seems possible I guess |
06:22.45 | Antiarc | The problem is that parts of the network are actually -gone- |
06:23.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup... fun times |
06:23.05 | Duman | yes |
06:23.06 | Duman | no fire |
06:23.08 | Duman | sorry about that |
06:23.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Meh |
06:23.16 | End | aww |
06:23.17 | Duman | some jacktard posting shit |
06:23.18 | TecnoBrat | Antiarc, http://ipnetwork.bgtmo.ip.att.net/pws/network_loss.html |
06:23.20 | TecnoBrat | and that? |
06:23.21 | bleeter | Duman: ah, that's good to know... 'coz fire = potential injury to peoples |
06:23.27 | Duman | but yes, AT&T lost some big network gear in at. louis |
06:23.30 | Duman | s/at/st |
06:24.05 | TecnoBrat | Duman, ETA? |
06:24.19 | TecnoBrat | and when do they expect to at least reroute st louis... |
06:24.45 | bleeter | Duman: they lost it?? well, if they'd made a sticky note for themselves about where they put it last time they had it... ;) |
06:24.48 | End | my question is, why am I going through st. louis? :P |
06:24.59 | ScytheBlade1 | "some" big network gear |
06:25.24 | Corrodias | apparently WoW lives in st. louis? despite not actually being there |
06:25.26 | End | althouh, I did a traceroute from LA to texas once, and it went to the easy coast first o_O |
06:25.30 | End | east* |
06:25.48 | TecnoBrat | End, where do you live? |
06:26.10 | End | Colorado |
06:26.33 | End | I was using a site to do a traceroute for my in that particular instance |
06:26.41 | End | for me* |
06:27.17 | Duman | it was sort of a cascade effect |
06:27.24 | End | ahhh |
06:27.24 | Duman | one hub blew up, and it affected other hubs |
06:27.30 | TecnoBrat | overloaded everything |
06:27.35 | End | that's definitely not unheard of :P |
06:27.39 | TecnoBrat | probably should of been handled better |
06:27.46 | End | yea |
06:27.50 | TecnoBrat | needless to say, their entire network died |
06:27.53 | TecnoBrat | coast to coast |
06:27.53 | Duman | given the sheer volume of traffic AT&T deals with, yeah.. not too unexpected ;) |
06:28.12 | Corrodias | the east coast power outage was caused by automatic rerouting of power load blowing out stations in a cascade |
06:28.20 | Corrodias | a couple of years ago |
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06:28.26 | End | (considering the amount of router spam) |
06:28.27 | Corrodias | fortunately, packets don't make things blow up |
06:28.44 | TecnoBrat | it really only takes it killing 1 other datacenter |
06:28.51 | TecnoBrat | and then you have 2 down |
06:28.57 | TecnoBrat | and then its just bam, bam, bam |
06:29.10 | ccox | Maybe THIS time people will learn from the outage and improve the backbone |
06:29.15 | TecnoBrat | maybe |
06:29.17 | ccox | (but I'm not holding my breath) |
06:29.19 | TecnoBrat | maybe not |
06:29.28 | Corrodias | it's pretty good. i'm still able to talk to you and visit any web site i've tried to, so far |
06:29.41 | Corrodias | literally, WoW and full tilt poker were the only things giving my friend and myself any trouble so far |
06:29.44 | MentalPower | Duman: is it only the st. louis site that had hardware issues, or is it propagating down the att network |
06:30.11 | TecnoBrat | https://help.attbusiness.net/index.cfm?fuseaction=network_status.home |
06:30.18 | TecnoBrat | We are currently experiencing a problem with our POP3 mail service that is causing slow responses and delays in delivering mail. |
06:30.21 | TecnoBrat | OH NOES |
06:30.26 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
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06:30.42 | TecnoBrat | THATS the problem |
06:30.57 | TecnoBrat | AT&T routes network traffic using POP3 mail servers! |
06:31.02 | End | haha |
06:31.04 | Corrodias | lmao |
06:31.09 | TecnoBrat | (I'm aware how retarded that sounds) |
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06:32.27 | TecnoBrat | http://www.internetpulse.net/Main.aspx?xAxis=Destination&yAxis=Origin&zAxis=Metric&nAxis=Period |
06:32.30 | End | hey, I can reach the forums at least now |
06:32.33 | TecnoBrat | things are coming back to life |
06:32.45 | TecnoBrat | we have yellow |
06:32.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
06:32.47 | TecnoBrat | and some blue |
06:32.50 | ScytheBlade1 | I can login to the game again |
06:32.53 | TecnoBrat | thats up from totally red |
06:33.00 | Corrodias | omg |
06:33.04 | Corrodias | WE HAVE YELLOW |
06:33.07 | Corrodias | *weeps with joy* |
06:33.39 | bleeter | seems auth servers... |
06:33.47 | bleeter | yeah, what ScytheBlade1 and TecnoBrat said |
06:37.17 | MentalPower | internetpulse is not being kind to me |
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06:54.46 | mattbnr | hello all |
06:54.46 | ccox | welcome matt |
06:55.42 | mattbnr | so anyone know if i need to run wow under wine in ubuntu 7.10 |
06:56.05 | mattbnr | since .wine is a hidden folder it makes it hard to update and run programs such as wowecon |
06:56.13 | NightHawkTheSane | how else do you plan on running wow in linux? |
06:56.19 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Linux/Wine |
06:56.20 | mattbnr | im new to linux |
06:56.34 | kd3 | "cd ~/.wine" |
06:56.39 | TecnoBrat | Duman, any more info besides "big network gear"? |
06:57.44 | End | mattbnr: create a symlink? :-p |
06:59.30 | mattbnr | ok i guess a better question is how do i go about updating files such as auctioneer, do i need a special program i have been trying the archive manager and it dont seem to be over writing files |
06:59.48 | Corrodias | i just saw a tauren in a guild named "tit for tat", so i offered to trade her some tat |
07:02.00 | Shirik | night all |
07:02.07 | End | night Shirik |
07:02.09 | Corrodias | well, i thought it was funnyt |
07:02.11 | Corrodias | 'ni |
07:02.23 | End | Corrodias: slightly amusing |
07:03.48 | kd3 | so, I was offline for about an hour. anyone know what happened other than "something in LA went splat"? |
07:04.00 | End | kd3: something in St. |
07:04.01 | End | er |
07:04.13 | End | kd3: something in St. Louis went splat |
07:04.29 | End | and everything cascaded after that |
07:04.56 | End | (according to Duman) |
07:05.14 | kd3 | oh wow. scary. NANOG saying anything special? |
07:05.24 | End | that's where Duman is getting his info |
07:05.31 | ScytheBlade1 | There were a few posts on the mailing list |
07:05.36 | End | just that AT&T lost some major network gear in St. Loius |
07:05.42 | End | Louis* |
07:06.22 | End | Duman has some NANOG irc channel or something :P |
07:06.34 | End | (I saw the mailing list too, but it wasn't that helpful) |
07:07.06 | mattbnr | do i need a special program to update ? or can i use archive manager |
07:07.29 | End | I don't even know what archive manager is |
07:07.33 | End | :P |
07:08.00 | End | oh |
07:08.02 | End | it's just fileroller |
07:08.03 | kd3 | archive manager should work |
07:08.04 | kd3 | just tell it to overwrite |
07:08.16 | End | real linux users use tar or unzip |
07:08.18 | mattbnr | i have that marked but it dont seem to be overwriting |
07:08.19 | End | get off my lawn! |
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07:09.27 | mattbnr | im new to linux have no idea what im doing |
07:10.16 | End | that's ok, I'm just an elitist asshole :-P |
07:11.11 | End | (well maybe not really, ...but I'm not a good judge of that) |
07:11.47 | mattbnr | well im just trying to update my auctioneer files and i cannot get it to work |
07:12.17 | End | I merely can't really help you since I've never used "archive manager" aka fileroller |
07:12.32 | End | I'm only aware of its existance |
07:14.44 | mattbnr | ok how about this then. what program do you reccomend that i use |
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07:15.19 | kd3 | end uses a text-mode command, I'd assume. as do I. |
07:15.28 | kd3 | there should be some way to get the GUI frontend to overwrite files |
07:15.43 | kd3 | or you could just delete the Auctioneer folders and reunzip the zip |
07:17.02 | mattbnr | coudl i suppose hmm linux is a pain so far |
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07:21.54 | End | heh |
07:21.58 | End | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/02/09/its-dangerous-to-go-alone/#top |
07:23.41 | mattbnr | well i must say you gusy are way less then helpful |
07:23.46 | mattbnr | guys* |
07:24.02 | End | sorry! |
07:24.34 | End | I don't actually run WoW on Linux, and most of my tar/zips contain source I need to compile before installing first :P |
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07:26.09 | Cairenn | well, he was far from pleasant |
07:26.22 | Cairenn | but you guys seemed to be handling it okay, so I left you to it |
07:33.42 | End | zomg nethack |
07:35.02 | End | let's see how long it takes before I die :P |
07:37.14 | End | I died. :( |
07:38.07 | kd3 | 2 minutes and 9 seconds according to my timestamps. did you intentionally throw yourself at some high-level mobs? |
07:39.10 | End | no, I got caught between some jackals and a hobbit |
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07:52.04 | bleeter | hmm, so blizz are offering (or were) a free transfer from my locked/overpopulated realm (queued atm) to a highpop realm. wonder how many folks actually took them up on the offer. |
07:52.24 | bleeter | personally, seems to me that there's next to bugger all point of moving, just gunna create queues on the other server |
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07:53.29 | bleeter | if he were here, I'd give him a nice big mug of 'Told You So' |
07:53.59 | bleeter | with a smile, of course |
07:54.02 | bleeter | and prolly a timtam |
07:54.52 | bleeter | oh, the transfers are closed now, anyways |
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08:01.59 | bleeter | </vent> |
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08:52.11 | kd3 | whee for bitching on the CS forum. random /popcorn material for those watching... |
08:52.14 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4068010203&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
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09:46.02 | art3mis | eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
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09:54.46 | cncfanatics | hello peeps |
09:56.34 | Corrodias | i'm having trouble deciding on which character, of my mage, priest, and warlock, to concentrate on |
09:59.22 | Corrodias | i have been playing the warlock lately, but i'm starting to wonder if it's really right for me |
10:01.00 | Corrodias | well, i'll mess with the others for a bit tomorrow afternoon and see if one strikes me as more fitting. have a nice day/night |
10:01.14 | Corrodias | gotte be up for alts day in karazhan |
10:03.05 | Elkano | level a druid, more flexible ;) |
10:09.12 | art3mis | thats so sad that corr's sleep schedule is dictated by raids |
10:14.44 | bleeter | corr should just bite the bullet, and level all 3 |
10:20.06 | sdouble | I'm leveling 3 right now |
10:20.21 | sdouble | seems a bit ridiculous when you do the same quest 3 times in a couple days |
10:20.53 | sdouble | and in a couple more days, I'll be leveling 4 at once |
10:22.50 | art3mis | wierdo |
10:25.07 | art3mis | GiTS SSS is on |
10:25.15 | art3mis | i love this entire series |
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10:28.46 | wereHamster | what's gits? |
10:30.31 | Tem | get in the shitter? |
10:33.06 | art3mis | ghost in the shell |
10:33.13 | Tem | oh |
10:33.17 | art3mis | solid state society |
10:33.34 | Tem | is that season 3? |
10:33.39 | art3mis | laugh that forum post linked above is kind of funny |
10:34.00 | art3mis | and the fact that a blizzard poster went into the gm ticket logs to find something to belittle the poster makes it much funnier |
10:34.06 | Tem | standalone complex |
10:34.09 | art3mis | its a movie |
10:34.10 | Tem | second gig |
10:34.19 | Tem | I haven't seen sss |
10:34.23 | art3mis | by series i meant all the shows and movies |
10:34.27 | Tem | standalone complex is not a movie |
10:34.31 | art3mis | end of it is on encore wright now |
10:34.35 | art3mis | it was |
10:34.38 | art3mis | is |
10:34.40 | Tem | um, no? |
10:34.43 | art3mis | thers a movie attached to it |
10:34.50 | Tem | oh |
10:34.54 | art3mis | and then the series branched |
10:34.56 | Tem | that's the one I didn't understand at all |
10:34.59 | Tem | at _all_ |
10:35.03 | Tem | second movie, right? |
10:35.13 | art3mis | yeah |
10:35.15 | Tem | yea |
10:35.17 | art3mis | gits was the start |
10:35.26 | Tem | not a /clue/ what went on in there |
10:35.27 | art3mis | then first year then sac then series |
10:35.36 | art3mis | not sure where sss fits in though |
10:35.52 | Tem | I haven't seen it yet |
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10:43.58 | testleK | ~botsnack |
10:43.58 | purl | :), testleK |
10:44.28 | testleK | good purl... |
10:48.22 | Tem | ~botslap |
10:48.34 | purl | ACTION whimpers |
10:51.51 | art3mis | wow |
10:52.05 | art3mis | appearantly my ps2 xbox and 360 all have softmods |
10:52.11 | art3mis | didnt realize it was that simple ;) |
10:52.30 | art3mis | ithink im gonna softmod my ps2 tomorrow and see how that goes ;P |
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10:54.48 | Industrial | wasnt the second gits movie Innocense? |
10:55.13 | Industrial | gits:stand alone complex was the second season TV right? |
10:58.29 | art3mis | http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2004/10/01/ghost.DTL |
10:58.36 | art3mis | bottom of the page and yea yer right my mistake |
11:01.19 | art3mis | The series was first adapted into a theatrical anime film adaptation in 1995, entitled Ghost in the Shell, directed by Mamoru Oshii. The film was followed by another theatrical movie sequel, Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence, produced in 2004, which was also directed by Oshii and places the character of Batou in the lead role. A third film, Ghost in the Shell: S.A.C. Solid State Society, was created after the TV series |
11:01.49 | art3mis | between 2 and 3 was SAC and SAC 2nd GiG |
11:02.02 | Industrial | season 2 TV was very weird |
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11:02.09 | art3mis | i liked it |
11:02.15 | art3mis | the tachicomas rule |
11:02.43 | Industrial | hehe |
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11:04.33 | art3mis | oh hey i meant to ask something |
11:04.49 | art3mis | does aloft change its display for something you're targeting? |
11:05.22 | art3mis | ie if you're in a mess of 15 people pvping for example, and you've got one person targeted does it change the boldness of the name? |
11:06.00 | Srosh | Mh, wasn't Innocence between SAC and SAC2? |
11:06.24 | art3mis | yup |
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11:17.41 | Industrial | im bored :< |
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11:49.58 | nevcairiel | does :SetParent or any other call implicitly change a frames strata? |
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12:57.50 | Saint-N | doo doo doodoo lookin' out my backdoor |
13:03.31 | Saint-N | brooklyn bronx queens and staten, from the battery to the top of manhatten |
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13:11.33 | Saint-N | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky-JTAPhmUo |
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13:52.03 | Saint-N | anyone have a decent alliance lock that would be comparable eqwise to an almost full s3(minus blade and pants) they'd wanna trade for a UD lock? |
13:52.13 | Saint-N | or should i not bring up stuff like that here ;P |
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14:01.06 | Busko | hey all |
14:01.44 | Busko | was wondering dose anyone know if the scope that you make that drops from attuman in kara dose the crit work for melee to ? |
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15:06.07 | Fat | hey |
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15:48.52 | Polarina | WinMPQ at wowinterface doesn't work under Wine, it says there's a missing file called MSVBVM60.DLL |
15:49.22 | zenzelezz | Microsoft Visual Basic Virtual Machine version 6.0 |
15:49.49 | Polarina | zenzelezz: Could you DCC it to me? :P |
15:49.57 | zenzelezz | nope, don't have it |
15:50.01 | Polarina | Ok. |
15:50.24 | zenzelezz | should be available somewhere on the net, might even be on the MS website. Pretty common to have to download it for programs |
15:51.01 | zenzelezz | search for "VB6 runtime" or something like that |
15:51.03 | Polarina | zenzelezz: I found it at a website, but it requires a paybal account and some money. |
15:51.18 | Polarina | s/paybal/paypal/ |
15:51.53 | zenzelezz | http://www.microsoft.com/Downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=bf9a24f9-b5c5-48f4-8edd-cdf2d29a79d5&displaylang=en <-- think this is what you're looking for |
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15:57.18 | End | Polarina: I don't think it can handle the extra-large TBC mpqs though (like common.mpq) |
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16:00.14 | malreth | Bela|afk: ping |
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16:04.09 | Polarina | zenzelezz: Now I get: Component 'MSCOMCTL.OCX or one of its dependencies not correctly registered: a file is missing or invalid |
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16:05.19 | zenzelezz | Polarina: http://www.microsoft.com/Downloads/details.aspx?familyid=25437D98-51D0-41C1-BB14-64662F5F62FE&displaylang=en probably |
16:05.31 | Lopeppeppy | My cat is... just wee bit psychotic this morning. |
16:05.39 | zenzelezz | like owner, like... |
16:06.08 | Polarina | zenzelezz: It works now, thanks a lot. :D |
16:06.30 | zenzelezz | I'm getting such mixed signals here |
16:06.32 | zenzelezz | ;-o |
16:07.13 | Lopeppeppy | Poor baby. /comfort |
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16:43.18 | End | apparently cloverfield isn't just a cpu... |
16:43.55 | Wobin | It's a nice place to visit? |
16:44.05 | End | apparently it's a movie! |
16:44.53 | malreth | i just saw it last night |
16:45.05 | End | the cpu or the movie? |
16:45.08 | malreth | the movie |
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16:57.48 | Thunder_Child | i saw juno last night |
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17:02.51 | malreth | clad: i swear i don't try to find these things on purpose... but http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7399-Violation.html |
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17:06.47 | Thunder_Child | ~lie malreth |
17:07.16 | Thunder_Child | ... |
17:07.16 | malreth | this i swear... |
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17:47.22 | art3mis | man this awake 24 hours alseep 12 hours has got to stop |
17:48.35 | Corrodias | why? |
17:49.30 | art3mis | it has a wierd overlap point |
17:49.40 | art3mis | and past 16 hours i tend to smoke too much |
17:50.37 | art3mis | like 1st 16 its every 1.5-2 hours then past 16 it's like 1 everytime i realize im not smoking and dont feel like ive had one recently which means it's 2 or 3 an hour |
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17:56.56 | dieck | hi there. Does anyone know of a php importer for lua arrays? (like the Saved Variable files?) |
18:04.18 | sdouble | Speaking of SAvedVariables, can you load/save/unload them at any time or only when the UI is reloaded? |
18:04.45 | End | sdouble: only when reloaded and whatnot |
18:04.55 | End | you can set the variable whenever |
18:05.06 | End | but it only gets saved to disk on unload/reload |
18:05.54 | sdouble | That's what I thought. |
18:06.52 | sdouble | So let's say I have a huge table of information that I don't want loaded at all times but would like to use it at certain times, would that cause problems? |
18:07.10 | End | maybe |
18:07.21 | End | you could put the data in an loadondemand addon if you really want to |
18:07.21 | Kaso | What's "huge" ? |
18:07.38 | End | you can't unload it, but you can choose when to load it |
18:08.24 | sdouble | Hmm, that sucks. It'd be nice to be able to load and unload at will. |
18:09.04 | Kaso | Well you could dump the table to free the memory, if you dont care about saving changes |
18:09.14 | Kaso | How big is this table you're talking about though? |
18:09.30 | sdouble | currently around 20 megs |
18:09.43 | End | that's..pretty large |
18:10.10 | sdouble | it's just a personal data collection thing I've been messing around with |
18:10.18 | End | is that on disk, or in memory I'm curious? |
18:10.24 | sdouble | on disk |
18:10.43 | End | ah, it'd probably be less in memory |
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19:25.54 | Shirik | Server is busy, please try again |
19:26.05 | Shirik | OH BUT WE'RE GOING TO PUT YOU ON A 60 SECOND TIMER LIKE YOU DID POST |
19:26.07 | Shirik | HAHAHA |
19:26.08 | Shirik | .... |
19:26.15 | Corrodias | HAHAHAHA |
19:27.57 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
19:28.13 | kd3 | ...hate |
19:28.20 | End | HAMAMAMAMAMAM |
19:28.25 | End | HAM |
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19:49.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Is wowwiki unusually slow for anyone else today? |
19:49.19 | End | it seems slow to me as well |
19:50.37 | kd3 | ya. we're yelling at wikia ops right now |
19:50.43 | kd3 | it's been slow for a few hours |
19:50.47 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm poking through it, reading up on Gul'dan, and it's not helping me do so :/ |
19:50.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah, kk |
19:50.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Just as long as it isn't my problem ;) |
19:51.12 | ScytheBlade1 | And what does "sbtalol" stand for exactly? |
19:51.33 | kd3 | server is busy, try again. lol. it's a customer service forum expression |
19:51.37 | ScytheBlade1 | I've seen that guild left and right on the CS forums, no clue as to any significance in the name |
19:51.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Ahhh |
20:00.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Every time I see Gul'dan in SMV I still kinda get a little scared that I'm standing next to "him" |
20:00.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Gul'dan the Warlock, Master of the Inner Circle of the Shadow Council and Destroyer of Dreams, was the de facto leader of the Horde in its early years, and believed to be the most powerful mortal warlock ever to exist. He is known for describing himself as "darkness incarnate" and "the Destroyer of Dreams." |
20:03.25 | kd3 | ya, I'm looking forward to running into Arthas all over outland. was kinda neat seeing Illidan a few times outside of BT, though |
20:03.51 | kd3 | s/outland/northrend/ |
20:04.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah it was |
20:04.50 | ScytheBlade1 | If they're going to kill off countless War1/2/3 heroes, so be it. But I want to fight along side existing heroes while that happens |
20:05.08 | End | I thought it was neat with Kael'thas's minion showing up everywhere |
20:05.25 | End | it annoyed me when it turned how he was a minor minion in Mechanar though |
20:06.00 | zenzelezz | who? |
20:06.06 | End | the calculator guy |
20:06.12 | End | last boss of mechanar |
20:06.19 | End | he shows up 3 times I think? |
20:06.23 | kd3 | last boss of mech |
20:06.32 | End | once in hellfire, once in terrokar, and I think one other place |
20:06.36 | End | maybe smv? |
20:06.55 | NightHawkTheSane | Paletheon the Calculator |
20:07.03 | End | that's him |
20:07.03 | NightHawkTheSane | he shows up in terrokar? |
20:07.07 | End | yea |
20:07.14 | NightHawkTheSane | where? I don't remember that.. |
20:07.17 | End | top of the blood elf place |
20:07.27 | End | the non-scryer blood elves that is |
20:07.29 | kd3 | during the CE bit, trying to figure out who blew up the camp |
20:07.30 | End | firewing or whatever |
20:07.36 | End | yea |
20:07.41 | NightHawkTheSane | ooh, y eah |
20:07.59 | End | that was a cool quest chain, but it wasn't a surprise |
20:08.25 | End | although, at that point we didn't know exactly what kael'thas's minions were up to |
20:08.57 | End | then, of course, we go to netherstorm, and whatja know, another bomb |
20:09.13 | ScytheBlade1 | I really wish that they would take the 25 man content and scale it down to 5-man, even if it dropps no loot at all |
20:09.15 | End | but this time aimed at the kirin tor humans |
20:09.36 | End | ScytheBlade1: that'd be really cool, but I think that'd be a good post-xpac thing |
20:10.12 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm a raider, but seriously, it'd be nice to hit those places up with 4 others |
20:10.16 | kd3 | how the hell do you do fights like maulgar, then? |
20:10.18 | ScytheBlade1 | No stress, no whoring consumables |
20:10.22 | kd3 | or c'thun for that matter |
20:10.23 | zenzelezz | the trouble with down-scaling raid content is that it's meant to be epic in the lore senser |
20:10.24 | zenzelezz | -r |
20:10.25 | End | I have no idea |
20:10.37 | zenzelezz | "yeah, so me and my four friends went in and whooped Illidan" |
20:10.53 | End | zenzelezz: the problem is most people never get to -see- Illidan |
20:11.09 | ScytheBlade1 | From a lore standpoint, having 25 others come in and whoop Illidan makes about as much sense |
20:11.09 | End | they're admitting regret by putting Kael'thas in sunwell 5man though |
20:11.13 | zenzelezz | that's not a "problem", it doesn't prevent you from going on |
20:11.13 | End | they want more exposure :P |
20:11.27 | zenzelezz | ScytheBlade1: it makes five times more sense |
20:11.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Traditionally large lore heroes had their own armies, and died in battle |
20:11.52 | End | I think not reach content is a problem, but that's just me :P |
20:11.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Or were assassinated by other large lore heroes |
20:12.24 | End | well, it's not just me I suppose, since Blizzard seems to be trying to avoid the issues that were had with Naxx |
20:12.30 | ScytheBlade1 | "Raiding" as far as lore is concerned makes very little sense :) |
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20:13.08 | End | I think in terms of lore, our raids are replaced with unnamed heroes |
20:13.13 | End | who might die there, or might not |
20:13.22 | End | I'm pretty sure the lore will say Onyxia was killed for example |
20:13.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah. Exactly. So what's the difference between 25 and 5 in the end? |
20:13.47 | End | hmm |
20:13.48 | zenzelezz | I can't convince you so I won't try, but my point is the same |
20:13.57 | zenzelezz | it just doesn't feel right, even if you "zomg get to see" them |
20:13.58 | End | well, I suppose there people 3manning MC |
20:14.00 | ScytheBlade1 | The epic feel yes I know |
20:14.02 | End | so what does that mean? :P |
20:14.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Again I do raid |
20:14.43 | End | I raid too, but I barely got to see naxx |
20:15.00 | End | fortunately, they're opening that up with lotk |
20:15.02 | End | er |
20:15.08 | End | wotlk? |
20:15.51 | ScytheBlade1 | wrath |
20:16.53 | End | anyways, currently, it's likely my only chance to see illidan before the next xpac is if I server transfer :P |
20:18.05 | ScytheBlade1 | My server has 11 guild in BT currently |
20:18.17 | ScytheBlade1 | It's to the point where the majority of the raiding guilds are in BT, heh |
20:18.20 | End | my server probably has about the same, but nearly all are alliance |
20:18.37 | End | and of course, I'm not alliance |
20:18.44 | ScytheBlade1 | The downside is, if you're not attuned, you're not going to get in to those guilds period |
20:18.50 | End | yea |
20:19.57 | End | on horde, we have guilds working on kael'thas, but they are so absurdly full |
20:20.11 | ScytheBlade1 | http://wowjutsu.com/us/doomhammer/ |
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20:22.02 | End | http://wowjutsu.com/us/bonechewer/ |
20:22.22 | End | hmm |
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20:22.29 | End | we have less alliance than I thought we had |
20:22.38 | End | oh yeah, two of their guilds broke up |
20:22.56 | End | but one of them is still there |
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20:47.36 | kd3 | eesh. wikia ops is thinking that it's a ddos |
20:47.54 | kd3 | squid's getting crushed under the load |
20:48.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | do what now? |
20:49.14 | kd3 | re wowwiki's slowness. we're owned by wikia. content that you see is served by a caching proxy that can't keep up with the DDoS |
20:50.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | ahok |
20:50.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh |
20:50.33 | ScytheBlade1 | And it just died |
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20:57.25 | Shirik | !ap 1500 |
20:57.25 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Arena points from a rating of 1500 is, 2v2: 261, 3v3: 302, 5v5: 344 |
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21:08.56 | bleeter | gah, the BG daily, on any given BG weekend, should be guaranteed at least ONCE to match the BG weekend |
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21:09.21 | bleeter | anyone think that's an unreasonable suggestion? |
21:09.24 | kd3 | was for Medivh yesterday. double AV |
21:09.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Nope |
21:09.46 | bleeter | kd3: EoTS, WSG, WSG here it would seem |
21:09.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | bleeter, it was designed not to be as far as i know |
21:10.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | so that people run the other ones, also |
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21:10.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i guess it's just random |
21:10.49 | bleeter | Mr_Rabies2: yeah, I can understand that, but on a BG weekend, it'll just mean folks *might* run the daily BG once, and then go back to the weekend BG |
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21:11.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | but that does keep the games going |
21:11.16 | bleeter | typically, I avoid WSG like the plague, so this weekend I've 'skipped' that BG twice, I know of others who've done the same |
21:11.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | i like wsg the most out of the current bg's |
21:11.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't like new av and hate ab |
21:11.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | and eots can be fun but it's not fun to pug at all |
21:12.02 | bleeter | I ain't played WSG since... ugh, almost two years |
21:12.27 | bleeter | my feel for the BG's prolly tainted by the morons on my original realm before Xrealm BGs |
21:13.41 | ScytheBlade1 | In all honesty, I enjoy WSG the most out of all of the BGs |
21:13.51 | sysrage | WSG blows chunks |
21:14.02 | ScytheBlade1 | For one reason: you can only have so many conflicting opinions, compared to AV, AB, or EotS |
21:14.30 | ScytheBlade1 | You either grab the flag, or you don't |
21:14.54 | ScytheBlade1 | This is compared to whining and bickering over defending X or not defending Y or "just hold these" or "morons rush RH already" |
21:18.24 | sysrage | unless it's a premade, you're not going to get intelligent players considering the majority of the playerbase is complete smacktards.. i'd rather have a clusterfuck like AV where I can still get a ton of kills in while people run around like idiots |
21:18.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Eh, I'm a fire mage who now has Iceblock. ;P |
21:19.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | i miss old av |
21:19.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Me too |
21:19.17 | kd3 | <3 |
21:19.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | back when it took days to win if anyone won |
21:19.28 | ScytheBlade1 | R |
21:19.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | often the server would go down before the av instance |
21:19.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Right up until the premier guild on your server group queued for AV |
21:19.53 | ScytheBlade1 | And steamrolled the other half of your server in minutes flat |
21:19.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Mmmm, Juggernaut. |
21:20.13 | Shirik | !ap 1583 |
21:20.13 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Arena points from a rating of 1583 is, 2v2: 336, 3v3: 389, 5v5: 443 |
21:20.18 | Shirik | !ap 1483 |
21:20.18 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Arena points from a rating of 1483 is, 2v2: 258, 3v3: 299, 5v5: 340 |
21:21.00 | sysrage | oh i agree. i miss old AV bigtime. that's why i can't wait for warhammer online.. mythic knows how to make epic battlegrounds |
21:21.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Meh. Here's to hoping that Wintergrasp is a larger version of Halaa. |
21:21.27 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd be happy with that. |
21:21.39 | kd3 | and better. wtb continent-wide ramifications |
21:21.58 | ScytheBlade1 | I don't much care about continent-wide changes |
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21:22.09 | kd3 | +bonus damage/xp? |
21:22.11 | ScytheBlade1 | But it was sheer fun going one on one with a rogue for hours on end |
21:22.16 | Iriel | I'd like large scale changes which take continued effort to maximize |
21:22.18 | sysrage | lol @ halaa.. nobody ever does jack there on my server.. i want 100 tokens for the resil gem but i can't ever get them |
21:22.29 | Iriel | not that I really do much PvP, but the idea appeals to me |
21:22.35 | kd3 | organize a raid on the forums |
21:22.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel: that'd be interesting too |
21:22.50 | Iriel | I like the idea of slowly altering dynamic NPC levels to counteract realm population bias too |
21:23.05 | Iriel | obviously with a correlated increase/decrease in rewards |
21:23.12 | kd3 | I want to get my hopes up for steam tanks and destructible buildings but I can't. maybe if we get more information |
21:23.25 | ScytheBlade1 | In all honesty I hope they don't play that much of a role |
21:23.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Otherwise I can totally see them as a straight objective based gimmick |
21:25.54 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: hah, I just had a 'everyone rush RH' abuse in AV... I replied with 'ah, so your instructions are really 'hai guyz don't defend shit ftw' |
21:26.45 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter: haha. I so wish they'd stick the NPCs back in, and buff them to pre-nerf status. |
21:26.50 | ScytheBlade1 | BOOM GO THE NOOBS. |
21:27.05 | ScytheBlade1 | "I'm gonna rush RH need a healer" |
21:27.07 | ScytheBlade1 | "wtf" |
21:27.08 | ScytheBlade1 | "WTF" |
21:27.21 | ScytheBlade1 | "WOW NERF AV" |
21:27.23 | ScytheBlade1 | That would be a glorius day |
21:27.42 | Duman | I want the old AV |
21:27.44 | Duman | like, pre-1.6 |
21:27.48 | bleeter | the number of times recently I've been tempted to roll a toon on another realm simply to smack down the nub who takes FWGY minutes before FWRH.... ;) |
21:28.06 | Duman | but they'd need to lower NPC-death dura loss to like 5% or 2%, or remove it |
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21:28.12 | Duman | (while in AV) |
21:28.25 | ScytheBlade1 | That's fine with me |
21:28.28 | bleeter | Duman: up the loot drop from NPCs |
21:29.01 | ScytheBlade1 | I just want the mass NPCs back, and I want them two-shotting clothies |
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21:29.01 | ScytheBlade1 | It might encourage actual teamwork |
21:29.01 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: that too |
21:29.01 | bleeter | well, one shot preferred ;) |
21:29.01 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
21:29.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Well I'm a clothie, I can only suggest so much ;) |
21:29.12 | bleeter | last night, people were screaming 'u nubs go RH' |
21:29.31 | zenzelezz | so for someone who's not been in AV, what does "RH" mean? |
21:29.32 | bleeter | I was 'hey, I'm a mage, I've ridding thru IB, into keep, and made it to RH... solo... twice... what's your problem??' |
21:29.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Relief Hut |
21:29.41 | bleeter | zenzelezz: Relief Hut, graveyard in Horde base |
21:29.41 | Duman | yeah, none of this one-person-can-ninja-a-GY crap |
21:29.44 | ScytheBlade1 | It's a graveyard in the horde's base |
21:29.44 | kd3 | relief hut. the graveyard closest to the end boss |
21:30.33 | ScytheBlade1 | zenzelezz: people who "rush the RH" bypass two graveyards and at least two towers to get there.. it can work, but it can also lose you the game if no one caps the towers, or the horde put up an even marginal defense |
21:30.39 | Duman | (Aid Station for alliance, but same thing) |
21:31.39 | bleeter | horde kinda expect the rush now |
21:32.11 | ScytheBlade1 | I won't lie... as a mage, it's all sorts of fun to time invis to get around the two towers, appear next to the RH, sheep the elite and nuke normal mobs |
21:32.13 | bleeter | so unless you also hit IB hard, and can take FWGY (the one before the RH) at the same time as the RH, it generally goes cluster-fuck real fast |
21:32.19 | ScytheBlade1 | But uh... I still want the old AV back :( |
21:32.20 | kd3 | they're getting pretty smart in ruin. there's a pretty hefty blockade right before the IBGY |
21:32.21 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: oh yeah ;) |
21:32.21 | Duman | as much as it's nice to have QUICK honor from ~30m AV games... I honestly had MORE FUN in the long, epic games that lasted all day |
21:32.43 | bleeter | kd3: Vengeance Horde have recently discovered the bottleneck in their base between the two towers |
21:32.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Screw honor. It's a game. If you don't enjoy it, don't play. |
21:32.50 | Duman | they'd just need to tweak some stuff... like.. eliminate Honor Decay from killing the same people over and over... |
21:33.05 | bleeter | after hearing Horde cry about their base for ... ever... I'm really suprised some have woekn up ;) |
21:33.06 | Duman | and remove or drastically lower the durability loss from NPC-deaths while in AV |
21:33.55 | Duman | and grant extra honor for other events, etc |
21:34.21 | Duman | Altho they are supposed to be introducing a couple new BGs .. I assume in WotLK.. maybe before? who knows |
21:34.52 | bleeter | I want that one in Azshara |
21:35.03 | bleeter | seem to recall it's on hold tho :( |
21:35.48 | Duman | they should add some "special" mining and herbalism nodes in AV that can be gathered for resources |
21:35.53 | Duman | and certain animal skins |
21:35.54 | Duman | etc |
21:35.55 | kd3 | they stopped working on it when AV turned out to be the disaster it was |
21:36.19 | ScytheBlade1 | They simply need to make AV a *long* battleground, or cut the honor gain in half. Remove the reason why the tards play it, and maybe the people who enjoy it would appear |
21:36.19 | bleeter | Duman: gathering in BGs = 'legitimate' afk |
21:36.39 | Duman | if the games are like they used to be - 12h+ - no one will "afk" |
21:36.44 | Duman | as there is no honor in doing nothing |
21:36.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Exactly |
21:36.45 | bleeter | make AV Epic available to those exalted with the faction. end of story. |
21:36.49 | ScytheBlade1 | YES |
21:36.52 | ScytheBlade1 | WIN @ BLEETER |
21:36.56 | Duman | oh damn yes |
21:36.59 | Duman | that would be hot |
21:37.17 | ScytheBlade1 | People see me on my AV ram and go "lol you blew the marks on that?" |
21:37.22 | ScytheBlade1 | I reply, "I paid gold for that." |
21:37.25 | Duman | hehe |
21:37.26 | ScytheBlade1 | ".... tf?" |
21:37.27 | kd3 | ah, that was fun. getting exalted in one weekend back in the old days |
21:37.33 | Duman | ahh, the old honor grind |
21:37.45 | kd3 | heh. that's how I got my epic mount on the cheap too |
21:37.46 | kadrahil | heh it only took me a couple fo weekends to get exalted with AV |
21:37.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Same |
21:37.51 | kadrahil | a few months ago |
21:38.03 | Duman | yeah exalted w/ AV isn't a hard task |
21:38.07 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: day before they changed it to the skill system, I got enough gold for it. Saved the cash. |
21:38.07 | kadrahil | back before the 2 hour long queues :( |
21:38.22 | Duman | queues on Vindication are like 2m right now |
21:38.24 | bleeter | yeah, they may need to wind back the rep gain in AV, to make AV Epic avail for only those who are truly experienced |
21:38.27 | Duman | (but it's AV weekend) |
21:38.30 | kadrahil | mmm |
21:38.33 | Thrae | Updated my system description -- http://www.matts-hosting.com/~generalmx/wow/my_system.txt |
21:38.33 | Duman | they are normally like 7m or so |
21:38.38 | kadrahil | i'm rerolling on korgath alliance side |
21:38.43 | kadrahil | tired of my battlegroup and server |
21:38.45 | kd3 | ruin was around 5 minutes yesterday |
21:38.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Queues on Nightfall are under 10 seconds for pretty much everything but EotS, always. |
21:39.01 | kadrahil | rampage was 45 minutes the other night |
21:39.05 | ScytheBlade1 | (whoo overpopulation) |
21:39.07 | Duman | scythe: damn |
21:39.10 | kadrahil | wow |
21:39.19 | ScytheBlade1 | That's in all brackets too |
21:39.25 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got a 19 "twink" and a 24 "twink" |
21:39.31 | Duman | is nightfall your realm or BG name? |
21:39.35 | Shirik | !ar 350 |
21:39.35 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Arena rating from 350 points is, 2v2: 1597, 3v3: 1547, 5v5: 1506 |
21:39.36 | ScytheBlade1 | WSG in there is about 1m-2m wait |
21:39.38 | bleeter | gotta be exalted with faction, and hand in 250 marks to get the 'key' for AV epic |
21:39.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Battlegroup |
21:39.53 | bleeter | 250 picked as a number to indicate 'experience', mind you |
21:40.23 | Duman | oh that's the other thing.. make marks stack to 250 or something :P |
21:40.28 | bleeter | yup |
21:40.31 | Duman | or at least, unique(250) |
21:40.32 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
21:40.53 | Duman | 3 pages of "overflow" AV marks in my mail = fail |
21:41.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Right now it's AV weekend... and we hae 65 instances of AV up |
21:41.07 | bleeter | Duman: 200, like other rep items |
21:41.17 | ScytheBlade1 | 18 WSG |
21:41.20 | bleeter | (bone frags etc.) |
21:41.28 | ScytheBlade1 | 17 AB |
21:41.28 | Duman | bleeter: ahh, yeah |
21:41.32 | zenzelezz | epic AV should require 100 marks, but marks which don't stack, so you'd have to sacrifice lots of bank space + bag space to reach it :-o |
21:41.37 | ScytheBlade1 | And 13 EotS, haha |
21:41.57 | ScytheBlade1 | But yeah, 65 instances of AV up, 2:40 PM on a Sunday. |
21:41.58 | Duman | LOL |
21:42.12 | bleeter | maybe a new mark, specifically for 'win' which is only awarded when exalted |
21:42.33 | bleeter | so, say, gotta have 50 wins after being exalted to get the key to Epic AV |
21:42.59 | bleeter | eg, you really want in, not just 'something else' to get EZMode |
21:43.20 | zenzelezz | they should also monitor your chat while in AV, so if you spoke like a nub it deleted any exalted win marks you had |
21:43.46 | zenzelezz | I'd take sick pleasure implementing such a feature |
21:43.47 | ScytheBlade1 | lol I agree |
21:44.24 | ScytheBlade1 | If they don't bring back old AV in some form, they should still cut the honor gains in half or more. Remove the crap from the zone, and maybe I'd enjoy it more! |
21:47.24 | ScytheBlade1 | They should also just re-enable group queue on select battlegroups already. |
21:47.58 | ScytheBlade1 | If it'd break the queues, then don't. But it wouldn't break mine, and I want to take four others and hold an alliance graveyard for the entire match ;P |
21:48.56 | bleeter | I can understand removing 'join as raid' but yeah the lack of a 5man being able to join is a right PITA |
21:49.14 | bleeter | *easily join |
21:49.44 | ScytheBlade1 | I can too, to a degree. |
21:49.57 | ScytheBlade1 | But it was really fun getting absolutely steamrolled by the high end guild on my server |
21:50.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Back before they nerfed it |
21:50.38 | ScytheBlade1 | I take it most everyone here has seen the "How Juggernaut Learned Naxxramas" picture? |
21:50.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, that guild. |
21:50.55 | bleeter | before Xrealm BG's, I recall having two 15man groups from the competing 'leet' guilds on my former realm. They'd compete to win, but also to grief each other (thus, everyone else in the BG) |
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21:53.31 | bleeter | while I'm bitching about BG's |
21:53.41 | bleeter | I love the new mana-less buffs... but |
21:54.12 | bleeter | I hate that I can join with 0 mana, and it takes forever to fill up. BG prep should just max out health and mana, rather than cost of casts be free. |
21:54.20 | cladhaire | it does health |
21:54.28 | cladhaire | you get healed when you enter an arena, at least |
21:54.37 | cladhaire | but i agree, about the mana |
21:54.40 | bleeter | ah, well, rarely being low on health on joining, and concentrating on buffing, I've not noticed ;) |
21:54.56 | cladhaire | you when you join arena, you get healed for some stupid amount, like 3 times your max health |
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22:08.08 | Duman | hmm, guess I should AV some more |
22:12.29 | Shirik | !ap 1586 |
22:12.29 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Arena points from a rating of 1586 is, 2v2: 339, 3v3: 393, 5v5: 446 |
22:13.01 | bleeter | Duman: my suggestion re: AV, is that best games take place between 3 and 5AM realm time |
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22:13.10 | bleeter | that's when the hard core folks are awake, and the kids are asleep |
22:13.11 | bleeter | generally |
22:13.38 | bleeter | well, maybe not awake, but you get more hardcore folks at that time ;) |
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22:20.29 | bleeter | anyone noticed an increase recently in folks getting feared outta the AV world? |
22:20.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Nope |
22:20.51 | bleeter | got two in current BG, can't unstuck, can't /afk, can't trinket |
22:21.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Can't /afk? |
22:21.15 | bleeter | so they say |
22:21.30 | bleeter | I suspect because they're not inside the BG world... /shrug |
22:22.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Random question. Does anyone have a poster on their realm forums who just makes incredible post after incredible post? |
22:23.34 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/search.html?sid=1&forumId=11186&characterName=&characterId=1028213913&searchText=&accountId=0&stationId=0&recentPosts=0&blizzardPoster=false&pageNo=1 |
22:23.41 | ScytheBlade1 | If anyone can top that guy, I'm all ears |
22:24.27 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4032678647&sid=1 (not competing ... just sighing) |
22:24.57 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
22:24.59 | ScytheBlade1 | People are morons |
22:25.21 | bleeter | gah, and how come I'm leaving AV with debuffs (SW:P and VE) still operating?? |
22:25.30 | bleeter | I thought debuffs were meant to be removed on BG exit? |
22:25.31 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter: it's always been that way |
22:25.43 | |Jelly| | I don't know but I almost died last week cause of it. :( |
22:25.59 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: there were like... 6.. debuffs on me at end of BG, on exit 4 disappeared |
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22:27.00 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter: on exit, four finished ticking I'd wager. Really, it's not uncommon to zone out with debuffs still ticking |
22:28.06 | mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_010508_013102.jpg |
22:28.20 | ScytheBlade1 | The crap |
22:29.13 | ScytheBlade1 | You know, the one thing I do like about TBC, is that for some reason, more people are in Stormwind. |
22:30.39 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3271076408&sid=1&pageNo=2#23 |
22:30.47 | ScytheBlade1 | I could read this guy's posts all day long, seriously |
22:30.51 | zenzelezz | <ScytheBlade1> Random question. Does anyone have a poster on their realm forums who just makes incredible post after incredible post? <--- depends what you consider incredible. We have a guy on my realm forum, Hoofit, who keeps posting as if he was RPing; refers to himself as "the hoof"; people who got owned are "hoofed"... his posts are generally pwn |
22:31.02 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: 'coz idle chitchat in Shatt is fail, no lowbies to annoy ;) |
22:31.15 | ScytheBlade1 | zenzelezz: link? |
22:31.32 | zenzelezz | don't have any offhand, not sure he's posted recently... let me check |
22:31.36 | ScytheBlade1 | " |
22:31.38 | ScytheBlade1 | "FINALLY, TAKE KIDNEY OF NIGHT ELF, ADD GARLIC. CAREFUL WHEN TAKING KIDNEY OF NIGHT ELF HUNTER. SOMETIMES THEY FEIGNING AND NOT ENJOY LOSING KIDNEY. THAT WHEN COOKING BECOMES A SPORT!! " |
22:31.44 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: That guy is very ... interesting |
22:31.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: he's an incredible poster... read his post history, seriously |
22:32.07 | Shirik | I won't deny that |
22:32.36 | bleeter | hah, so I filed a GM ticket about a toon named 'disney', under 'real life reference' and 'advertisign', on my RP realm |
22:32.54 | bleeter | it'd appear as tho this isn't something on an RP realm that would enforce a name change |
22:33.08 | bleeter | *advertising |
22:34.41 | NightHawkTheSane | "If there's anything more important than my ego on this ship, I want it caught and shot right now!"" |
22:34.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3547667301&postId=35472492020&sid=1#0 |
22:34.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: and post #4 |
22:35.32 | Shirik | rofl |
22:35.50 | ScytheBlade1 | See what I mean? |
22:35.56 | ScytheBlade1 | His posts are pure win |
22:36.41 | mikma | and here: http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_010508_013645.jpg |
22:36.44 | zenzelezz | seems the guy I was talking about has cut down a bit on his posting :-/ |
22:36.50 | ScytheBlade1 | zenzelezz: :/ |
22:37.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Here's a standard "ur realm sucks at pvp lol" thread: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3547797210&postId=35472491711&sid=1#17 |
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22:55.46 | zenzelezz | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/funny-pictures-cat-groceries-lightbulb-butt1.jpg o_O |
22:57.16 | bleeter | haha, nice loss of DoF |
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22:58.19 | zenzelezz | DoF? |
22:59.02 | zenzelezz | that reminds me of my favorite perk back in Anarchy Online, the "imba evasion skills for X seconds", Dance of Fools |
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23:02.33 | bleeter | zenzelezz: depth of field. from looking at it, the light is a good foot or two in front of the cat (check the shading on the cables on the wall). The intensity of the light, though, messes with DoF and makes it appear a foot further back than what it is (from my limited understanding, tho I'm sure some camera nut like Iriel would correct me) |
23:03.11 | zenzelezz | ah, I should've recognized that one... guess it's been too long since I did any 3D |
23:03.46 | zenzelezz | (I always sucked at it, but at least I knew the abbreviation) |
23:16.06 | kd3 | gah. damn it, Tuesday. get here faster |
23:17.33 | MentalPower | kd3: course you can, you just have to predict your things 1.5secs in advance |
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23:23.43 | Shirik | "Use: If you spend at least 5 seconds eating you will become Very Happy for 1 hour." |
23:23.45 | Shirik | wtf? |
23:24.46 | bleeter | Shirik: fireworks come outta your head after 5 seconds |
23:25.03 | bleeter | Shirik: not too sure what else happens during the remaining 59 mins and 55 seconds |
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23:34.42 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, it's food with a "happy ending" |
23:35.11 | Thunder_Child | besides, thats how it usually is for men...5 sec -> 1 hr happy |
23:35.27 | Thunder_Child | ~lart kd3 |
23:35.27 | purl | acting on orders from an unspecified client drags kd3 into court suing for $200 million |
23:35.47 | kd3 | heh, purl's got some new larts |
23:36.22 | Thunder_Child | yes, apt since i live in cali |
23:45.07 | foxlit | grrr |
23:45.36 | foxlit | (Class<InterfaceName>) ClassImplementingInterfaceName.class |
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23:45.51 | bleeter | kd3: did you ever work out, to 99.999% surety, why the two different 2.3.2 versions in PatchSequenceFile.txt? |
23:46.15 | kd3 | sag thinks that the trial client uses the higher patch numbers |
23:46.18 | kd3 | I'm inclined to agree |
23:46.25 | bleeter | MentalPower: ^^ |
23:46.44 | MentalPower | why would it tho? |
23:46.46 | bleeter | kd3: MP's inclined to disagree with that, is why I mention it and pinged him ;) |
23:47.15 | kd3 | dunno, the "additions" that the trial account has to deal with, perhaps? |
23:47.19 | MentalPower | a trial acct can play on my PC |
23:47.47 | MentalPower | I can't play on a PC that has been used for a trial acct, only because that PC would not have the BC stuff my acct needs |
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