| 00:00.18 | Shirik | Assembly is so fun |
| 00:00.29 | Shirik | I just don't particularly like x86 opcodes |
| 00:00.44 | batrick | assembly is fun |
| 00:00.53 | Esamynn|Work | each to their own |
| 00:00.54 | batrick | i hadn't been so giddy since making my first C programs |
| 00:00.59 | Wobin | You're mad, mad I say =P |
| 00:01.10 | batrick | rite shirik |
| 00:01.11 | Esamynn|Work | give me a high level language please |
| 00:01.16 | batrick | casual |
| 00:01.37 | Wobin | Esamynn|Work: Well, the world needs people who find assembly fun, so lets humour them =) |
| 00:01.46 | Esamynn|Work | indeed |
| 00:01.55 | Shirik | I especially love compilers that do things ilke |
| 00:01.57 | Esamynn|Work | notice I didn't call either of them crazy |
| 00:01.59 | batrick | taking apart malware is fun too |
| 00:02.02 | Shirik | 0100: jmp 0102 |
| 00:02.14 | Xinhuan | lol? |
| 00:02.17 | Kalroth | ASM is fun for optimizing stuff, but you don't want to code an entire application in it. It's just so damn tedious and pointless when there's compilers that can do it much better or at least equal to you in the long run. |
| 00:02.22 | Xinhuan | might just have been a noop |
| 00:02.28 | Shirik | Kalroth: That depends on the nature of the application |
| 00:02.35 | Shirik | I've written tons of applications solely in assembly |
| 00:02.36 | Kalroth | It's cool to look at your code and say "hey, that loop takes ages, lets optimize that" |
| 00:02.42 | Shirik | Mostly because they're embedded systems |
| 00:02.52 | End | all my embedded stuff is in C |
| 00:03.02 | Shirik | I do work in C if I have an OS |
| 00:03.09 | End | I...don't have an OS :P |
| 00:03.11 | Kalroth | Shirik: Of course, I was talking about large applications, something that'd take 15-20k lines of ASM to code (even when object oriented) |
| 00:03.24 | End | I don't get malloc either, of course |
| 00:03.24 | Wobin | Shirik: That's more due to a limitation in applicability of programming, though, no? |
| 00:03.38 | Shirik | not really, you can write C without an OS |
| 00:03.46 | Kalroth | In the majority of embedded systems it's still better to use C and go with inline ASM when required. |
| 00:03.46 | Shirik | I just choose not to because if I don't have an OS I want to be right next to everything |
| 00:03.55 | Shirik | I strongly disagree with that statement |
| 00:04.04 | Kalroth | Why's that? |
| 00:04.05 | Shirik | It is best to use the right tool for the job |
| 00:04.07 | |pez| | <offtopic>I want a sewing machine </offtopic> |
| 00:04.11 | Kalroth | Of course :) |
| 00:04.19 | Shirik | Then why would you say "it's still better to use C" |
| 00:04.29 | Esamynn|Work | Shirik: that's like saying the sky is blue :P |
| 00:04.31 | kamdis | |pez| I should give you mine, I never use it. |
| 00:04.36 | Kalroth | Because I said the majority of embedded systems, not all. |
| 00:04.51 | |pez| | kamdis: Waaai ^^ |
| 00:04.53 | Shirik | I disagree with the thought that the majority of embedded systems should be written in C |
| 00:05.05 | Shirik | I will shoot the person whom programmed my digital watch or thermostat in C |
| 00:05.10 | Kalroth | Shirik: I'm talking about applications for the embedded systems, not the system itself. :) |
| 00:05.29 | Kalroth | Well ok, an embedded system with more than 2-4k available memory :p |
| 00:05.39 | Shirik | See that might be a different story :) |
| 00:06.04 | Shirik | But actually I would argue the majority of embedded systems have a very limited amount of memory. People underestmate just how many embedded systems are around them at any given time. |
| 00:06.10 | Kalroth | But how many embedded systems doesn't have at least 2k memory or swap memory available? :) |
| 00:06.36 | Wobin | bah, we'd only ever need 64k! |
| 00:06.48 | Shirik | yeah |
| 00:06.49 | Xinhuan | that thread should be so renamed to "Mac Wars" rather than "Mac Mods" hehe |
| 00:07.04 | Xinhuan | in your next reply, change your subject topic :D |
| 00:07.13 | Shirik | I remember my grandfather saying to me "Check out this computer, it has a GIGABYTE of hard drive space! Isn't that awesome?!" |
| 00:07.14 | Kalroth | Wobin: Actually you can get some very neat OS's for C64 now :) |
| 00:07.20 | Shirik | And I'm like "how could you possibly ever use that" |
| 00:07.35 | Esamynn|Work | lol |
| 00:07.37 | batrick | i rememebr that |
| 00:07.46 | batrick | Shirik this guys an idiot lol |
| 00:07.53 | batrick | man i wish i could still post on forums /sigh |
| 00:08.09 | End | anyways, I had to port some software on an embedded system to another architecture, and I was glad it was in C :P |
| 00:08.14 | Kalroth | http://www.dunkels.com/adam/tfe/ is just nuts |
| 00:08.29 | batrick | End: you wouldn't be glad if there were no C compiler for it! |
| 00:08.31 | Xinhuan | why couldn't you post? |
| 00:08.40 | Shirik | batrick: I gave up |
| 00:08.44 | End | batrick: there was, so what is your point? |
| 00:08.44 | batrick | but then, you'd have the same problem if you wrote the first in assembly ;) |
| 00:08.44 | Xinhuan | you could 2-3 months ago |
| 00:08.46 | End | er, is |
| 00:08.54 | batrick | End: no point :P |
| 00:09.29 | Shirik | You all can take your newfangled "Java" and shove it! I programmed microcontrollers using S-Record editors and manually flashing! |
| 00:09.31 | End | granted, I still had to rewrite some code though, that's unavoidable :P |
| 00:09.43 | Shirik | Granted that was for a stupid, maybe 20-op school project, but I did it! |
| 00:09.43 | kamdis | Shirik, lol |
| 00:09.49 | End | java wouldn't even fit, lol |
| 00:10.16 | Shirik | The motorola white papers still give me chills |
| 00:10.56 | Kalroth | Mmmmm, M680x0 |
| 00:11.04 | batrick | "Even so, you draw a bad conclusion. Java code is not executed by the CPU. It runs inside a secure JVM." |
| 00:11.07 | batrick | hahahahhaha |
| 00:11.25 | batrick | the secret invisible cpu is executin mai codez |
| 00:11.46 | Shirik | wait wait, I found my motorola core guide |
| 00:11.51 | batrick | "It is certainly possible to have a machine that is immune to attacks from the network. " Ya close all your ports roffles |
| 00:12.06 | End | or turn it off |
| 00:12.09 | End | :P |
| 00:12.18 | Wobin | duh |
| 00:12.23 | Wobin | take out the CAT5 cable |
| 00:12.31 | Wobin | and put the end in a bucket |
| 00:12.57 | Esamynn|Work | haha |
| 00:12.59 | Kalroth | Yes, OSX java is so safe that they released a huge patch for it less than a month ago. |
| 00:12.59 | End | measures like that are the only absolute sure way to guarantee security :P |
| 00:12.59 | Kalroth | http://secunia.com/advisories/28115/ |
| 00:13.26 | End | Kalroth: I like where it says "Privilege escalation" |
| 00:13.41 | Kalroth | And "From remote" :) |
| 00:14.37 | Kalroth | Of course every single OSX user has updated within the last month, so all OSX users are safe. It's not like we see Windows users with an unpatched system, nooope. |
| 00:15.08 | Kalroth | Hell, Apple released this the very day after: http://secunia.com/advisories/28136/ |
| 00:15.39 | bleeter | I thought Java for OSX was safe 'coz they didn't release a Java for the last version :P |
| 00:15.47 | bleeter | *version of the OS |
| 00:16.12 | Kalroth | Java for OSX is safe because there isn't enough users for it to be worthwhile targetting. :) |
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| 00:18.27 | bleeter | ah, Java SE6 for Leopard is available via ADC |
| 00:18.35 | bleeter | so.. I guess it's kinda released |
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| 00:30.49 | |Jelly| | Is there some mysterious definition of 'immune' that I never got the memo about? |
| 00:34.08 | Shirik | yes |Jelly| |
| 00:34.17 | Shirik | Immune actually only means "as immune as you want so that you're right" |
| 00:34.29 | |Jelly| | lol |
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| 00:44.30 | kamdis | Oh man, Shirik. "I personally don't like it when people say Macs are immune. I understand what they mean, but they could have phrased it better." |
| 00:45.10 | |Jelly| | ... |
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| 00:45.18 | |Jelly| | wasn't he the one ... ... |
| 00:45.21 | |Jelly| | ~facepalm |
| 00:45.22 | purl | ACTION facepalms at the situation |
| 00:46.18 | kamdis | exactly |
| 00:46.29 | Thunder_Child | macs *are* immune, they are immune to any kind of....personality |
| 00:46.37 | |Jelly| | It's like he did a complete 180. |
| 00:46.49 | |Jelly| | And is trying to hide it by continuing to argue with Shirik. |
| 00:46.53 | kamdis | he entirely backpedaled and tried to cover his ass, is what he did |
| 00:47.42 | Shirik | Because I won. |
| 00:47.47 | Shirik | And thus I stopped arguing |
| 00:51.00 | Antiarc | Macs are like paladins |
| 00:51.11 | Antiarc | A virus is all "lulz, infecktshun'd" |
| 00:51.15 | |Jelly| | fucking horrible at everything but spamming one button like a douche? |
| 00:51.22 | Antiarc | And the palamac is all BUBBLE;D |
| 00:51.43 | Shirik | Antiarc >< |
| 00:51.58 | Corrodias | blinded by the light, wake up like a douche, and note a roller in the night |
| 00:52.01 | Wobin | Then they hearth back to apple |
| 00:52.17 | Wobin | Corrodias: mondegreen city? =P |
| 00:53.11 | Corrodias | somethin' like that |
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| 00:53.56 | Shirik | revved up like a deuce, another runner in the night :P |
| 00:53.56 | Shirik | fool |
| 00:54.03 | Wobin | 'zactly |
| 00:54.07 | Shirik | But I think your lyrics fit well |
| 00:54.49 | Cairenn | I always here "wrapped up like a douche, you know, the rumour in the night" |
| 00:54.55 | Cairenn | s/here/hear/ |
| 00:55.07 | Shirik | o_O |
| 00:55.39 | Shirik | ahahaha |
| 00:55.46 | batrick | no one is fighting vagrant now how am i supposed to be entertained |
| 00:55.48 | Shirik | And I'm watching this video of it |
| 00:55.50 | batrick | go say somethin else shirik :( |
| 00:56.10 | Shirik | and one of the things it says on it is "Was also mistaken as: Wrapped up like a douche, another runner in the night" |
| 00:56.14 | Shirik | go ahead batrick :) |
| 00:56.17 | Shirik | It's all you |
| 00:56.19 | batrick | i can't post... |
| 00:56.19 | Shirik | I already won |
| 00:56.28 | Wobin | Cairenn: oh.. -that- rumour, eh? =) |
| 00:56.28 | Shirik | Oh... ask Cairenn then |
| 00:57.04 | Shirik | oh hey |
| 00:57.20 | Shirik | Misheard version #8: "Wrapped up like a douche, another rumor in the night" |
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| 00:57.32 | Shirik | that's pretty close |
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| 00:58.56 | Cairenn | see? told you! |
| 01:02.19 | Wobin | "Excuse me, while I kiss this guy"? |
| 01:02.37 | Thunder_Child | kissthisguy.com is a site |
| 01:02.50 | Thunder_Child | or at least it was |
| 01:02.57 | Wobin | for mondegreens yeah |
| 01:04.09 | Wobin | When I first heard that Julian Lennon song, I thought he was singing "Yes it's much... too late... porcupine..." |
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| 01:05.55 | Shirik | (20:04:54) (lhf) 5.1.3 is going to be released soon. |
| 01:05.56 | Shirik | yey |
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| 01:14.13 | AnduinLothar | so... when do we get a wau for wowi |
| 01:16.26 | Fin | eh? |
| 01:16.29 | JoshBorke | ~wuu |
| 01:16.29 | purl | [wuu] a WoW UI Updater - Updates your WoW addons automagically from WoWAce, WoWI, Cosmos, and CurseGaming sites. Homepage is http://wuu.vagabonds.info/ |
| 01:16.36 | Fin | do keep up |
| 01:16.40 | Fin | :P |
| 01:16.55 | Fin | also there's a WoWI specific tool |
| 01:17.24 | AnduinLothar | zomg an osx version |
| 01:19.43 | AnduinLothar | wonder how imissed it |
| 01:19.56 | AnduinLothar | i think i knew it was being worked on but never saw the product |
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| 01:45.07 | AnduinLothar | WUU seems to be broken in a few ways |
| 01:45.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | your mother |
| 01:45.42 | AnduinLothar | wowi doesn't work because the http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/infoXXXX-Name.html linsk don't work |
| 01:45.53 | AnduinLothar | and the ace updates dont work |
| 01:46.00 | AnduinLothar | it updates from cosmos ok |
| 01:46.13 | AnduinLothar | doesn't work from auctioneer or gatherer sites either |
| 01:46.18 | AnduinLothar | or curse |
| 01:47.02 | bleeter | omg Mr_Rabies2 |
| 01:47.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | hi |
| 01:47.24 | bleeter | glad to see you survived the new year's celebrations :) |
| 01:47.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | you know how i celebrated new years |
| 01:47.42 | bleeter | (which is an encoded way of saying 'happy belated new year' ;) |
| 01:47.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | i chilled at a friends and watched movies on youtube |
| 01:47.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | because his huge projector was broken |
| 01:48.00 | bleeter | bummer |
| 01:48.11 | bleeter | did you break him? |
| 01:48.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | at 12:00 we toasted kool-aid in a plastic cup |
| 01:48.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | and we noticed it was 12 by saying "oh, hey, look it's midnight" |
| 01:48.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | and proceeded to toast |
| 01:48.40 | bleeter | you're getting old haha |
| 01:48.58 | bleeter | oh shit |
| 01:49.04 | bleeter | i think I was meant to be in Kara 15 mins ago |
| 01:49.09 | bleeter | but I was replying in the Mac Mod thread |
| 01:49.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | pfft |
| 01:49.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | just say you got time zones mixed up |
| 01:49.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh wait |
| 01:49.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | you play on oceanic |
| 01:50.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | how many time zones in rooville |
| 01:50.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm too lazy to look |
| 01:50.43 | bleeter | wth?! Blizz posting Alert before 4PM Aussie time? MEDIC! |
| 01:51.34 | bleeter | Mr_Rabies2: non-summertime, officially, 3, unofficially, about 5 |
| 01:51.44 | bleeter | Mr_Rabies2: summertime, I lose count somewhere near 6 or 7 |
| 01:52.24 | bleeter | Mr_Rabies2: nah, I'm in Oceania, but I don't play mains on Oceanic realms, only my alts. I like my afternoon raids and evening farming ;) |
| 01:52.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh ok |
| 01:52.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | well then, use the time zone rule |
| 01:52.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | no one will be any wiser |
| 01:53.00 | bleeter | 'cept I rushed to login 'coz I thought I was late |
| 01:53.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 01:53.07 | bleeter | and I'm 45 mins early |
| 01:53.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | they will be none the wiser |
| 01:53.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh |
| 01:53.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | so you did mess up time zones |
| 01:53.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | keke |
| 01:53.22 | Shirik | ERROR #132 (0x85100084) Fatal Exception |
| 01:53.22 | Shirik | Program:D:\Program Files (x86)\World of Warcraft\WoW.exe |
| 01:53.22 | Shirik | Exception:0xC0000005 (ACCESS_VIOLATION) at 0023:00714060 |
| 01:53.26 | Shirik | rawr rawr rawr!!! |
| 01:53.54 | Shirik | wow is so mean to me =( |
| 01:53.55 | bleeter | Shirik: the one that scores brownie points is, after 2.3.2, generating an error in line 311. |
| 01:54.09 | bleeter | this is aka 'error 311', but the error doesn't actually have an error number (out of memory) |
| 01:54.33 | Shirik | Conspiracy used to have a bug that would cause the out of memory error |
| 01:54.42 | Shirik | it was fun |
| 01:54.59 | bleeter | apparently this is seperate to the strsplit overflow that happened pre-2.3.2 inside stubby :( |
| 01:55.27 | Shirik | foo = {}; foo.foo = foo; Conspiracy:SendMessage(foo, "GUILD"); |
| 01:55.39 | Shirik | led to an infinitely long string |
| 01:57.35 | MentalPower | Shirik: thats the one |
| 01:57.59 | MentalPower | WoW should not crash, it should simply throw a Lua error |
| 01:58.17 | Shirik | well if Conspiracy was designed correctly it would :P |
| 01:58.21 | Shirik | Let me try it again see what happens |
| 01:58.57 | Shirik | oh cool |
| 01:59.04 | AnduinLothar | i know why it crashes |
| 01:59.15 | Shirik | [#] 20:58:22 [Debug: Conspiracy ] ERROR: Interface\AddOns\Conspiracy\Root.lua:529: stack overflow |
| 01:59.20 | Shirik | That's a little better :P |
| 01:59.34 | AnduinLothar | It's a Conspiracy. |
| 01:59.38 | MentalPower | Shirik: I have one that still causes an out-of-memory |
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| 02:02.44 | Shirik | Not enough storage is available to process this command. |
| 02:02.44 | Shirik | Program:D:\Program Files (x86)\World of Warcraft\WoW.exe |
| 02:02.44 | Shirik | File:.\src\lmemPool.cpp |
| 02:02.44 | Shirik | Line:311 |
| 02:02.47 | Shirik | That what you were talkinga bout? |
| 02:04.26 | MentalPower | Shirik: aye |
| 02:04.42 | Shirik | script s = "s"; while true do s = s..s; end |
| 02:04.44 | Shirik | hehe |
| 02:04.57 | MentalPower | yup |
| 02:05.45 | bleeter | MentalPower: is that what we've got buried somewhere? |
| 02:06.01 | MentalPower | if we're still getting 311s, yes |
| 02:06.10 | bleeter | I had two over the weekend |
| 02:06.49 | bleeter | dumps and logs are on my lappy, i can dig them out later if you like. I did do the 'good' thing and send the dumb to Blizz using their tool, tho ;) |
| 02:08.14 | MentalPower | bleeter: how big are the logs? |
| 02:08.27 | MentalPower | maybe I can extract something meaningful from them |
| 02:09.13 | bleeter | MentalPower: I need to go make a coffee, so I'll grab the lappy as well ;) |
| 02:09.24 | MentalPower | you and your coffee... |
| 02:11.08 | Lunessa | get me some too. Cream and sugar. |
| 02:12.03 | Shirik | Want to get me some too? :( |
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| 02:12.24 | |Jelly| | Make it four. :P |
| 02:12.33 | Shirik | percentage-wise, that's infinitely better than zero, MentalPower |
| 02:13.00 | MentalPower | Shirik: I've had this torrent open for about a month now, its quite depressing really |
| 02:13.06 | Shirik | haha |
| 02:13.47 | Kaso | you must desperately want that file |
| 02:14.24 | MentalPower | indeed |
| 02:14.41 | MentalPower | the other option is shelling out $300 for a decade-old game |
| 02:14.45 | MentalPower | (eBay) |
| 02:14.49 | Kaso | which? |
| 02:14.57 | MentalPower | Journeyman Project |
| 02:15.04 | MentalPower | the DVD version |
| 02:15.09 | Lunessa | Never heard of it\ |
| 02:15.33 | MentalPower | its a time travel based adventure game |
| 02:17.56 | Kaso | every time that happens its somewhat disturbing |
| 02:18.17 | Shirik | That is really scary |
| 02:18.21 | Shirik | and soon 2000 will be a decade ago |
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| 02:22.08 | Lunessa | no, what I find disturbing is that I realized today I've been explaining to people what "cookies" are for 15 goddamned years. |
| 02:22.54 | |Jelly| | So quit. |
| 02:22.56 | |Jelly| | :P |
| 02:23.00 | Cairenn | oy - someone just called for an all out boycot of incgamers ... |
| 02:23.00 | Kaso | we talking the delicious kind, or the non delicious kind |
| 02:23.11 | Wobin | Lunessa: Chocolate Chip? |
| 02:23.13 | cogwheel | :| |
| 02:23.16 | Wobin | Cause that could be bearable |
| 02:23.20 | Lunessa | then digital kind |
| 02:23.20 | Wobin | if you used examples |
| 02:23.23 | Wobin | alas |
| 02:23.34 | Kaso | Cairenn, what's happening? |
| 02:23.35 | Wobin | You should start using chocolate chip as proxy examples |
| 02:23.44 | bleeter | Lunessa: that's only about 5 years shorter than I've been explaining why internet email and im like foo is are unreliable methods of communications for businesses to rely on |
| 02:23.49 | Cairenn | Kaso: they got hacked (again? still?) |
| 02:24.09 | Cairenn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3881821845&sid=1 |
| 02:24.11 | Lunessa | MOAR chocolate chip and oatmeal raisin, less browser... |
| 02:24.30 | kd3 | Cairenn, ya, I saw the boycot call... I'm still having a hard time keeping myself from going "welcome to the club" |
| 02:24.41 | kd3 | s/going/responding with/ |
| 02:24.43 | cogwheel | part of me wants to just let it ride... the other part says i should post a hold yer horses or something |
| 02:24.48 | Cairenn | do we know who that person even is? |
| 02:24.55 | Cairenn | I don't recognize the name |
| 02:24.55 | Shirik | what person? |
| 02:25.02 | Cairenn | the one saying "boycott" |
| 02:25.03 | cogwheel | just a random |
| 02:25.05 | cogwheel | user |
| 02:25.08 | Lunessa | bleeter I help write some of the first popular IM clients. It makes me feel old to see people who can't rmember when they disn't have them. |
| 02:25.10 | kd3 | some random who got infected |
| 02:25.26 | Cairenn | I can't blame them for being upset though |
| 02:25.27 | Shirik | oh I hadn't seen that post |
| 02:25.56 | Cairenn | Rushster hasn't posted anything and has (apparently, this is 3rd hand knowledge) stated that he isn't going to |
| 02:26.11 | Cairenn | way to care about your community .... |
| 02:26.14 | cogwheel | she(?) also said something about it here http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3909376881&sid=1&pageNo=3 |
| 02:26.31 | bleeter | Lunessa: I feel old everytime I think about when I upgraded to a 2400 baud modem |
| 02:27.03 | Lunessa | 300 baud ftw!! It was such an upgrade over my 110 |
| 02:27.19 | kd3 | s/386/486/ |
| 02:27.51 | cogwheel | I remember wanting a 14.4 SOOOO badly |
| 02:28.33 | |Jelly| | I remember having 14.4 and being the shit. :-\ |
| 02:28.34 | Duman | 9600, perhaps? :) |
| 02:29.19 | Lunessa | You are in a maze of twisty passages all alike. It's dark. You might get eaten by a grue. |
| 02:29.24 | Duman | plus, it's technically 9600bps, and still 2400 _baud_ |
| 02:29.37 | bleeter | I recall thinking sometime in the mid-80's 'hey, why aren't the signals FM encoded with a DSP to split them up later', only later did I realise that DSP's didn't have the grunt back then, but I still wish I'd patented the idea :( |
| 02:30.00 | Duman | heh |
| 02:31.09 | cogwheel | patents 4tl imo |
| 02:31.45 | MentalPower | Lunessa: the first IM software I used was ICQ, way back when it was still mirabilis |
| 02:32.14 | cogwheel | I loved ICQ |
| 02:32.19 | Shirik | me too |
| 02:32.25 | Shirik | I still remember my number, though not my password |
| 02:32.39 | cogwheel | I remember searching for females my age who were into programming... |
| 02:32.42 | Kaso | how many digits Shirik ? |
| 02:32.44 | Shirik | rofl |
| 02:32.46 | bleeter | cogwheel: you wouldn't have been 'patents 4tl' if I'd patented it and then paid you to say 'patents ftw!' from my profit! :P |
| 02:32.49 | Shirik | Kaso: 9 |
| 02:32.53 | Shirik | 214614613 |
| 02:32.55 | cogwheel | bleeter: actually... |
| 02:33.03 | cogwheel | I might've surprised you :P |
| 02:33.37 | MentalPower | 112444270 |
| 02:34.53 | Duman | 8 digits here |
| 02:35.16 | MentalPower | Duman: ye are old! |
| 02:35.22 | Duman | no doubt |
| 02:35.37 | bleeter | I've got 8.. my memory leads me to suspect that was a replacement for a 7 |
| 02:35.54 | bleeter | though I'm an old man now, and memory ain't what it used to be :/ |
| 02:36.15 | Duman | heh |
| 02:36.39 | Duman | I was too busy w/ IRC to deal w/ ICQ when it first came out |
| 02:38.25 | Cairenn | I did IRC, then ICQ, then neither, then ICQ + MSN + AIM + IRC + ..... |
| 02:38.49 | sysrage | icq rocks.. my number is 7 digits. got a bunch of friends with 6 |
| 02:39.18 | Duman | hmm,the hybrid guys too my name out of the ircd credits, it's been so long since I've done anything... hah |
| 02:39.26 | MentalPower | FYI, Pastey be down, blame Esamynn |
| 02:39.29 | cogwheel | i think my first was 6 |
| 02:39.31 | Cairenn | my original was like 4 or 5 digits long, but when I took my hiatus from it, I forgot it when I went to go back to it |
| 02:39.38 | sysrage | 6 was the lowest |
| 02:39.44 | Esamynn | I'm working on it |
| 02:39.45 | |Jelly| | owned |
| 02:39.46 | Cairenn | 6 then |
| 02:39.48 | |Jelly| | OWNED |
| 02:39.54 | Kaso | some beta accounts had < 6 didnt they? |
| 02:39.57 | Cairenn | as I said, it was a long time |
| 02:40.01 | Cairenn | ago |
| 02:40.11 | *** kick/#wowi-lounge [|Jelly|!n=skullsho@conspiracy/developer/Shirik] by Shirik (Shirik blames |Jelly|) |
| 02:40.11 | *** join/#wowi-lounge |Jelly| (n=chatzill@adsl-75-58-138-108.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) |
| 02:40.14 | Shirik | Ha I can do that now! |
| 02:40.24 | Shirik | <3 |
| 02:40.28 | Duman | heh |
| 02:40.32 | ckknight | you have @? |
| 02:40.37 | ckknight | when did this happen? |
| 02:40.45 | Shirik | Mmm |
| 02:40.45 | cogwheel | news post on wowi ;) |
| 02:40.47 | sysrage | *sigh* i've been playing this char too long. name is Agoknee. every time somebody says ago i wonder why they're talking to me |
| 02:40.49 | Shirik | Yeah |
| 02:40.56 | batrick | hey jelly, autojoin after kicks is good reason for a ban ;) |
| 02:41.01 | ckknight | sysrage: hehe |
| 02:41.09 | Cairenn | he's been unofficially moderator on wowi for a while now, we finally made it official |
| 02:41.09 | Shirik | It's ok batrick I do it too :P |
| 02:41.16 | Cairenn | I do too! |
| 02:41.17 | batrick | u should both be banned! |
| 02:41.20 | batrick | 3! |
| 02:41.21 | ckknight | Cairenn: okay then |
| 02:41.30 | Cairenn | :) |
| 02:41.40 | Esamynn | pastey back |
| 02:41.42 | Esamynn | sorry about that |
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| 02:42.35 | cogwheel | <.< |
| 02:42.36 | cogwheel | >.> |
| 02:42.40 | *** kick/#wowi-lounge [cogwheel!n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn] by Cairenn (Cairenn) |
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| 02:42.41 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+v cogwheel] by ChanServ |
| 02:42.45 | Cairenn | :) |
| 02:42.48 | cogwheel | ^_^ |
| 02:42.48 | Shirik | that's a pretty slow rejoin :P |
| 02:42.56 | cogwheel | *_* |
| 02:43.03 | Shirik | (21:42:20) -› +cogwheel was kicked by Cairenn (Cairenn) |
| 02:43.03 | Shirik | (21:42:22) -› Join: cogwheel (n=chatzill@c-67-164-121-134.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 02:43.26 | cogwheel | how do i see my latency in chatzilla? |
| 02:43.46 | MentalPower | cogwheel: I don't think you can |
| 02:43.47 | Duman | /ping cogwheel |
| 02:43.49 | Duman | ;) |
| 02:43.56 | cogwheel | :| |
| 02:43.58 | cogwheel | 1.07 s |
| 02:44.02 | Shirik | ow |
| 02:44.07 | MentalPower | [22:43:54][INFO]Ping reply from cogwheel in 0.55 seconds. |
| 02:44.13 | Shirik | you replied faster to me than you did to yourself? |
| 02:44.14 | Shirik | awesome |
| 02:44.18 | Shirik | (21:43:13) -› [CTCP PING reply from cogwheel]: reply took 0.813s |
| 02:44.30 | cogwheel | i think that makes sense |
| 02:44.36 | kd3 | xchat's saying I'm in the 3-4s range. at least it's better than the minutes of lag I would be getting were I not using tor |
| 02:44.37 | Duman | well, pinging yourself is two rtts |
| 02:44.39 | cogwheel | if the connection between me and my node is broken |
| 02:44.39 | MentalPower | chrome://chatzilla/content/output-window.html |
| 02:44.53 | cogwheel | what Duman said |
| 02:44.55 | Shirik | ah fair enough |
| 02:44.58 | Shirik | that's a good point |
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| 02:45.19 | cogwheel | i've been getting some annoying latency from wow recently too :( |
| 02:45.26 | cogwheel | though my meter never gets above 100 |
| 02:45.32 | cogwheel | maybe it's just my server :P |
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| 02:47.22 | Duman | it's probably comcast ;) |
| 02:47.38 | Shirik | I am so glad I never had comcast |
| 02:47.40 | cogwheel | Wha... what gives you th-that idea? |
| 02:49.14 | cogwheel | bandwidth...latency...bandwidth...latency... |
| 02:49.19 | cogwheel | i don't pvp |
| 02:49.23 | cogwheel | so i'll take bandwidth |
| 02:49.36 | Shirik | Cox is seriously giving FioS a run for its money |
| 02:49.39 | Fin | Antiarc: I take it back, there isn't a WoWI-specific addon updater (that I know of) |
| 02:49.42 | Duman | I don't think you're bandwidth is all that more than mine ;) |
| 02:49.47 | Fin | I was mistaking the uploader for an updater |
| 02:49.49 | Shirik | My parents have insane bandwidth |
| 02:50.01 | Duman | but I have 6M/600k DSL, so *shrug* |
| 02:50.24 | Antiarc | Cox provides great bandwidth |
| 02:50.25 | cogwheel | mine does 20Mb/s for the first ... 20mb i think and then 6MB/s after that |
| 02:50.35 | Shirik | 15M down |
| 02:50.37 | Shirik | I forget what up |
| 02:51.00 | cogwheel | MentalPower: wtb GetAll-using auctioneer |
| 02:51.12 | cogwheel | :P |
| 02:51.16 | Duman | broadband in the US is sto castrated it's not even funny |
| 02:51.27 | Duman | for lke $80/mo you can get 100Mbps service in like half of europe |
| 02:51.29 | cogwheel | Duman: word |
| 02:51.34 | Shirik | 15/2 |
| 02:51.38 | cogwheel | don't tell me things like that please |
| 02:51.42 | Duman | heh |
| 02:51.46 | Shirik | wow |
| 02:51.58 | MentalPower | cogwheel: hmm... the dev that usually handles that is MIA, so I'll re-enable it myself and see if WoW borks on me |
| 02:51.59 | Shirik | I paid $80/mo here in Fl for 3Mbps down |
| 02:52.03 | Duman | what's sad is we did it to ourselves |
| 02:52.06 | Duman | well, the telco's did |
| 02:52.17 | Shirik | But I had a business account |
| 02:52.28 | Shirik | for when I worked as a GM, needed guaranteed static IP and all that jazz |
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| 02:52.44 | Fin | and it costs about hmm... well I don't pay my bill, but I think about $30 |
| 02:53.35 | Fin | I used to do tech support for a company hosting 3000 users on a single 2MB line |
| 02:53.51 | Shirik | ow |
| 02:53.58 | cogwheel | Duman: but then again that means living in europe ;) |
| 02:55.18 | Kaso | a 1:1 contention 1mb line will do me fine kthanks |
| 02:57.31 | Shirik | hm http://wowui.incgamers.com/?p=mod&m=2106 |
| 02:58.17 | Shirik | I'll check it in a few days :P |
| 02:59.00 | Duman | the thing is... |
| 02:59.10 | Duman | scanning something won't (necessarily) reveal trojans |
| 02:59.22 | Shirik | I don't scan executables |
| 02:59.26 | Duman | especially if the trojan author simply keeps altering his binary every time |
| 03:00.02 | Shirik | as is proven by the fact that I'm the one who caught it both times considering virus scanners still don't pick it up :P |
| 03:00.14 | Shirik | I <3 my disassembly tools |
| 03:00.15 | Duman | hehe |
| 03:00.23 | Duman | probably oculd find it with 'strings' ;) |
| 03:00.26 | Duman | lemme scan this one |
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| 03:06.39 | Thunder_Child | someone tell me what the best level they get to http://www.freerice.com/index.php |
| 03:07.40 | batrick | shirik what disassembly tools are you using |
| 03:07.56 | Shirik | Depends on what I'm looking for, my most favorite are ollydbg and w32dasm |
| 03:08.37 | Shirik | olly makes it really easy to see function calls, parameters, etc. |
| 03:09.06 | Shirik | w32dasm makes it really easy to see the modules being used, how the program gets there, and a general overview of the kernel calls that are in the program |
| 03:09.27 | Shirik | Though one time w32dasm gave me a 2000 page report on a program >.> |
| 03:11.21 | Shirik | here I have a good shot of olly in action |
| 03:12.39 | Shirik | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/6a20fffe4a6758f04d2ddbca057819c5.jpg |
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| 03:13.30 | |Jelly| | I SEE VENTRILO |
| 03:13.38 | Shirik | yes I use vent :P |
| 03:13.48 | |Jelly| | Wanna sexy teim? |
| 03:13.58 | Shirik | yes plox |
| 03:14.14 | |Jelly| | :P |
| 03:14.35 | Shirik | haha |
| 03:14.37 | Shirik | yeah seriously |
| 03:14.43 | |Jelly| | SERIOUSLY! |
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| 03:16.43 | Shirik | unfortunately I guess I didn't take a SS of that time w32dasm gave me the 2000 page report |
| 03:16.52 | |Jelly| | ~fail Shirik |
| 03:16.53 | purl | Shirik: Fail. |
| 03:17.06 | Shirik | Hey, I have this screenshot though! |
| 03:17.27 | Shirik | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/4ba4b14cebd00e336d51ebffb2aa5ffb.PNG |
| 03:18.06 | |Jelly| | roflamo |
| 03:18.38 | cogwheel | This is momentus... Apparently my mother-in-law just learned how to forward e-mails... |
| 03:18.46 | Shirik | grats! |
| 03:18.57 | |Jelly| | You're so screwed now. |
| 03:19.51 | cogwheel | inc family spam |
| 03:20.01 | Shirik | Is he really trying to imply that Jan 19, 2038 is an "unforseen bug" ? |
| 03:20.14 | Shirik | Even the MSDN already documents problems with it |
| 03:20.20 | Shirik | and we're 30 years out |
| 03:22.22 | |Jelly| | Who here has kids ... that are like 18+ or getting close? |
| 03:23.07 | Shirik | my brother's getting close, does that count? |
| 03:23.35 | |Jelly| | I'm just wondering how long it would take for you to realize your kid got a tattoo on their wrist. lol |
| 03:23.46 | Shirik | oh I think my parents would know almost immediately |
| 03:24.08 | |Jelly| | ...cause I've had my tattoo for two weeks and I don't think they've noticed. lol |
| 03:24.09 | Shirik | I would never do it, my brother would but they keep an eye on him like a hawk |
| 03:24.15 | Shirik | haha |
| 03:24.17 | Cairenn | unh, I'd probably go with her while she got it done ..... |
| 03:26.31 | |Jelly| | I dunno. I just find it funny that they're probably going to be pissed off when they see it ... but they haven't noticed yet so it's obviously not /that/ big of a deal. |
| 03:27.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | what are they gonna do, erase it? |
| 03:27.35 | |Jelly| | piss and moan as per usual. |
| 03:27.35 | Shirik | Chop off his arm |
| 03:27.35 | Shirik | Then have it replaced a la luke skywalker |
| 03:27.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd murder them with the sharpened arm bone |
| 03:27.36 | |Jelly| | It's my left one. I think I'll be alright. |
| 03:28.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've always wanted to get a blood eagle logo centered on my back, but i'm too much of a pussy |
| 03:28.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.bloops.org/images/BE.png |
| 03:28.23 | Cairenn | we had an easy agreement while she was younger (she's an adult now, she can do what she wants) - if she decided she wanted a tattoo or body piercing, she had to decide /exactly/ what she wanted and if she still wanted the same thing a year and a day later, she could get it |
| 03:28.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | upper back, capping out near the shoulders |
| 03:28.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | with the crests of the wing going up my neck a bit |
| 03:29.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i'm far too chickenn |
| 03:29.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | -n |
| 03:30.55 | |Jelly| | http://i14.tinypic.com/6u9va12.jpg |
| 03:31.36 | buu | Mr_Rabies2: Stop being a pussy and go get it. |
| 03:31.41 | Shirik | My school system (back in HS) would be like "wtf is that some kind of gang symbol? You have to remove it now or you're being suspended. |
| 03:31.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | no |
| 03:31.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | :( |
| 03:31.53 | Shirik | They said EVERYTHING was a gang symbol |
| 03:31.56 | buu | IT WAS. |
| 03:32.02 | Shirik | for the longest time guys weren't allowed to wear pink |
| 03:32.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | it will be |
| 03:32.04 | Wobin | Mr_Rabies: That's kinda cool |
| 03:32.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | in the year 3941 |
| 03:32.17 | Wobin | pink... is a gang symbol? |
| 03:32.22 | Shirik | apparently |
| 03:32.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | the blood eagle tribe will rebel against the empire and start a war |
| 03:32.28 | Shirik | though I actually somewhat agreed with that one |
| 03:32.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | Wobin: it's from Starsiege Tribes |
| 03:32.39 | Shirik | but there were some stupid ones too |
| 03:32.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | probably the best fps ever |
| 03:32.47 | |Jelly| | "It's in my skin, bitch!" |
| 03:33.08 | Shirik | Like when guys weren't allowed to wear chains |
| 03:33.23 | Shirik | you know, the ones everyone have. Hell, even I do, and I don't care about fashion. |
| 03:33.34 | |Jelly| | I don't. :-\ |
| 03:33.36 | Wobin | the ones connecting the keys/wallet to the pants? |
| 03:33.41 | Shirik | no around the neck |
| 03:33.48 | Wobin | you're not allowed necklaces? |
| 03:33.58 | Shirik | Well that one was repealed pretty quickly |
| 03:33.59 | |Jelly| | NO DUMMY! THAT WOULD MEAN SHIRIK IS IN A GANG! |
| 03:34.07 | Wobin | omg |
| 03:34.12 | Wobin | Gang of one =P |
| 03:34.18 | Shirik | I'm hardcore yo |
| 03:34.26 | Shirik | you don't mess with this |
| 03:34.31 | Wobin | Showing your solidarity with your fellow man |
| 03:34.47 | Wobin | Just say it's religious |
| 03:34.51 | Shirik | I be stompin in my air force ones |
| 03:34.52 | Wobin | and then cry foul |
| 03:34.57 | Shirik | Wobin: Actually it was, and that's why they had to repeal it |
| 03:34.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=5prJSIdNQvU&feature=related |
| 03:35.00 | buu | Shirik: STOMP THE YARD. |
| 03:35.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | best game of all time^ |
| 03:35.05 | Wobin | I IS BEING REPRESSED |
| 03:35.11 | Shirik | Because I wear a chain with st. christopher on it |
| 03:35.48 | Shirik | and obviously I wasn't the only one |
| 03:36.20 | Wobin | Mr_Rabies: That's a whole lot of dying |
| 03:36.43 | Wobin | and dramatic music bites |
| 03:36.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | you die a lot in tribes |
| 03:36.48 | |Jelly| | I'm skurred, Shirik. |
| 03:36.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | the music sound is "flag returned" |
| 03:37.10 | Shirik | yeah right |
| 03:37.20 | Shirik | I'm probably the least intimidating human being on the planet |
| 03:37.23 | buu | Tribes waz hard. |
| 03:37.40 | buu | A flying fps was pretty awesome idea though. |
| 03:38.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | and it's scriptable! |
| 03:38.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | he's got some serious scripting going on |
| 03:38.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | a good chunk of his ui is scripted there |
| 03:39.33 | Wobin | hehe the voices are great |
| 03:39.47 | Wobin | it's like the voice from a drive through speaker |
| 03:39.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's free now |
| 03:40.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | it makes wsg look like turtle soup |
| 03:40.38 | Wobin | meh |
| 03:40.54 | Wobin | anything can make WSG look like turtle soup |
| 03:43.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=I1SN9lR291M |
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| 03:43.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | so many awesome players :[ |
| 03:44.14 | buu | WSG is made mostly of tears and fail. |
| 03:44.48 | |Jelly| | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKQgDY0pZ68 <-- makes me want to jump around and break stuff |
| 03:45.54 | buu | |Jelly|: He's trying too hard. |
| 03:46.13 | Shirik | that's why my parents would never let my brother play drums |
| 03:46.19 | |Jelly| | Would you say the same about Dave Grohl? Some people just beat the piss out of the drums. |
| 03:46.21 | |Jelly| | ...me for instance |
| 03:46.25 | Shirik | but yes he's definitely going overboard |
| 03:46.31 | Shirik | even people that are into it don't go that nuts |
| 03:46.39 | |Jelly| | I do. lol |
| 03:46.42 | |Jelly| | ...even when I'm alone. |
| 03:47.04 | buu | Freak. |
| 03:47.09 | |Jelly| | Don't be jealous! |
| 03:47.21 | buu | |Jelly|: The problem is that it shows you're trying too hard to impress other people, instead of doing well. |
| 03:47.38 | Shirik | yes he's actually ruining the tone of some of the instruments |
| 03:47.47 | |Jelly| | rofl |
| 03:47.56 | |Jelly| | You guys know that's not ... mixed, right? |
| 03:48.05 | |Jelly| | Or even equalized. |
| 03:48.18 | Iriel | His sense of timing is at least pretty good |
| 03:48.34 | Shirik | I agree |
| 03:48.39 | Shirik | but the hi hat is not supposed to sound like that |
| 03:48.51 | |Jelly| | "supposed" = subjective |
| 03:48.58 | Shirik | ok, I'll accept that |
| 03:49.05 | |Jelly| | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9TYQVM9SSA Here. Metalheads bitch. |
| 03:50.28 | Shirik | see now he's good :) |
| 03:50.39 | |Jelly| | Slipknot's drummer. lol |
| 03:50.41 | Shirik | he reminds me of the drummer in dragonforce actually, I have no clue how they can chain things like that |
| 03:51.02 | Shirik | oh I don't know slipknot |
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| 03:51.24 | |Jelly| | People usually complain that they're over rated. But the fact is, Joey is an awesome drummer. |
| 03:51.40 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3H4liC2sWg Unfortunately you can't see the drummer but you can sure as hell hear him |
| 03:51.48 | |Jelly| | And yes, I did change the subject off Travis' video on purpose because until you put a metronome with it, I'm not listening. :P |
| 03:52.10 | |Jelly| | God I hate Dragonforce with a supreme passion. |
| 03:52.15 | Shirik | =( |
| 03:52.17 | Shirik | They're awesome |
| 03:52.25 | |Jelly| | At jacking off a guitar. |
| 03:52.38 | Shirik | >< |
| 03:52.40 | |Jelly| | I really don't like guitar wanking really at all. |
| 03:52.54 | |Jelly| | Classic rock, Dragonforce-esque, whatever ... I don't like any of it. |
| 03:53.05 | buu | Classic Rock ?! |
| 03:53.12 | buu | That's full of shit like led zepplin isn't it? |
| 03:53.21 | |Jelly| | There's no need for a 20 minute guitar solo. |
| 03:53.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | of course there is |
| 03:53.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | guitar solos are awesome |
| 03:53.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's not enough guitar soloage these days |
| 03:53.44 | |Jelly| | And you're talking to someone that's seen Rush, Page/Plant, Pink Floyd, Ted Nugent, Bad Company, Journey, Styx, etc. I still feel that way. |
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| 03:54.05 | |Jelly| | Don't get me wrong, I really respect them as musicians, I just really hate guitar wankery (as guitar hero 2 put it) |
| 03:54.51 | buu | |Jelly|: The only decent bands are those that have recorded performances of _O Fortuna_ |
| 03:54.56 | buu | CASE CLOSED |
| 03:55.01 | Shirik | I wish they didn't get into guitar hero |
| 03:55.09 | Thunder_Child | i hate you all |
| 03:55.21 | Shirik | now so many people claim to be fans of them when they hadn't even heard of them before guitar hero |
| 03:55.41 | |Jelly| | Who? |
| 03:55.49 | Shirik | dragonforce |
| 03:55.59 | Thunder_Child | i hate them to |
| 03:56.04 | Shirik | die |
| 03:56.16 | |Jelly| | They need to. |
| 03:56.17 | Thunder_Child | well you say so many people like them with out hearing them |
| 03:56.18 | |Jelly| | In a fire. |
| 03:56.25 | Thunder_Child | i say i hate them with out hearing them |
| 03:56.27 | buu | I LIKED METALLICA BEFORE THEY WERE POPULAR. |
| 03:56.40 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 03:56.55 | |Jelly| | Seriously Shirik. I think I'm going to throw up a little. I watched the whole thing though. |
| 03:57.06 | Shirik | Actually I didn't like that video now that it's over |
| 03:57.10 | Shirik | they cut out some of the best parts |
| 03:57.23 | |Jelly| | Well, I didn't watch it but I listened to it. lol |
| 03:57.32 | Shirik | well yeah me too |
| 03:57.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | i like dragonforce but i'll be damned if it isn't cheesy |
| 03:57.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't take my music too seriously, and apparently neither does dragonforce |
| 03:57.56 | |Jelly| | Then again, in recent months, my music taste has changed drastically. |
| 03:58.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | i listen to a lot of cheesy music |
| 03:58.04 | |Jelly| | I take music too seriously. lol |
| 03:58.09 | Iriel | cheesy music has its place |
| 03:58.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | almost all the music i listen to was written before i was born |
| 03:58.19 | |Jelly| | Yeah a place in hell! |
| 03:58.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | today's music can go forth and die |
| 03:59.03 | Iriel | most of today's music can indeed rot in a bucket somewhere |
| 03:59.03 | |Jelly| | So closed minded. :P |
| 03:59.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | other than power metal |
| 03:59.06 | Shirik | The song that got me stuck on them: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlkVK0ZVkkw&feature=related |
| 03:59.10 | Shirik | Has good meaning behind it too |
| 03:59.19 | Iriel | Though I can't help but feel that it's not so much 'todays music' as 'todays easily found music' |
| 03:59.39 | Iriel | damn the music labels to hell for shutting napster down |
| 03:59.47 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 03:59.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | waffles |
| 03:59.49 | Iriel | I used to find (and buy!) /so/ much music in the late 90's |
| 03:59.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | ;] |
| 03:59.58 | |Jelly| | Sony actually screwed one of my favorite local bands. :( |
| 04:00.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | Shirik: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3gIhsOFamM [ignore the video if you want, i have no idea if the video's decent or not] |
| 04:00.36 | |Jelly| | The lesson the singer told me was "If you ever get signed, read that fucking contract before getting all excited and signing it" |
| 04:01.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | that song got me into dream evil |
| 04:01.05 | Shirik | Mr_Rabies: I already like it |
| 04:01.07 | Shirik | what is it? |
| 04:01.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | Dream Evil - The Chosen Ones |
| 04:01.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | he's swedish, so he has an accent |
| 04:02.17 | Shirik | It's good |
| 04:02.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | if power metal's what you like, i can definitely hook you up with a lot of good artists |
| 04:03.04 | |Jelly| | Yeah. I really can't stand that guy's voice. [Shirik's latest video] |
| 04:03.14 | Shirik | Actually he sounds horrible in that video |
| 04:03.18 | Shirik | Doesn't give him justice |
| 04:03.39 | |Jelly| | I've yet to hear him not sound horrible imo. |
| 04:03.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | what bands do you like? |
| 04:04.00 | Shirik | Mr_Rabies: Actually one thing really is pissing me off about this song |
| 04:04.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | yes? |
| 04:04.10 | Shirik | the incomplete phrase that keeps repeating |
| 04:04.19 | |Jelly| | I'm not telling you. Like I said, I take music way too seriously to be berated for what I listen to. :P |
| 04:04.23 | Shirik | The chorus has 3 bars and then a measure rest |
| 04:04.33 | Neebler | blind guardian! |
| 04:04.34 | Shirik | And it just doesn't resolve itself.... |
| 04:04.54 | Wobin | hehe |
| 04:05.00 | Wobin | "Then there was the girl who announced she was bisexual during class. I had to spend the rest of the period biting back comments along the lines of "well, you've doubled the pool of people who really could do better."" |
| 04:05.48 | Shirik | hell, it ENDS unresolved |
| 04:05.58 | Shirik | That's one thing that really annoys me about music. But rap does it a lot more. |
| 04:05.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't really listen to lyrics |
| 04:06.02 | Shirik | Other than that it is really good |
| 04:06.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's more about the overall mood to me |
| 04:06.11 | Shirik | No it's not the lyrics, it's the melody |
| 04:06.16 | |Jelly| | lol Shirik. It's music, not science! :P |
| 04:06.36 | Shirik | You'd be surprised how much science there is in music :) |
| 04:06.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | music is math with a bit of art thrown in |
| 04:06.44 | Shirik | yeah math is probably more accurate |
| 04:06.58 | Duman | heh |
| 04:07.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | the art's more about the style than the actual music |
| 04:07.11 | |Jelly| | I play three instruments. While that's not really something to brag about these days, I know a fair share about it. :P |
| 04:07.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | to sound like music, it has to fit within a fairly rigid set of guidelines |
| 04:07.27 | Shirik | |Jelly|, I played music for... |
| 04:07.38 | |Jelly| | YOU'RE YOUNGER THAN ME, SHIRIK! :P |
| 04:07.41 | Shirik | omg 10 years |
| 04:07.47 | Duman | <- Computer Science major, Music Technology minor |
| 04:07.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | Age: (20.84058 years old) |
| 04:07.59 | Duman | heh |
| 04:08.05 | |Jelly| | (I've had a guitar that long <3 btw) |
| 04:08.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | most of the music i listen to is older than me :[ |
| 04:08.12 | Shirik | <3 my Cello |
| 04:08.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | Shirik: |
| 04:08.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyrA0UAvgx0 |
| 04:08.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | more recent dream evil |
| 04:08.30 | |Jelly| | I /will/ learn violin / piano before I die. |
| 04:08.39 | Wobin | at the same time? |
| 04:08.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | violin seems far far too analog to me |
| 04:08.45 | |Jelly| | Yais. |
| 04:08.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | no frets, very legato |
| 04:08.56 | |Jelly| | Well. I can kind of play a mandolin and well ... |
| 04:09.07 | Shirik | No frets is the best part |
| 04:09.14 | Shirik | You can make some really nice sounds because of it |
| 04:09.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm used to guitar and trumpet, where it's pretty hard to play off unless you either suck or are out of tune |
| 04:09.36 | |Jelly| | I tried to play a fretless electric bass once. It wasn't pretty. |
| 04:09.48 | Shirik | That's also what makes violin/viola/cello pretty difficult |
| 04:09.52 | Shirik | you have to be spot on |
| 04:09.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | trombone too |
| 04:10.02 | Shirik | yeah that too |
| 04:10.10 | Shirik | But you get used to it :) |
| 04:10.14 | Wobin | ... You can also make some horrible sounds cause of it =P |
| 04:10.23 | Shirik | Well you can make horrible sounds with a piano too |
| 04:10.23 | Wobin | also bowing |
| 04:10.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mean |
| 04:10.25 | Shirik | I do all the time |
| 04:10.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | you can bend the tone with a trumpet in a pretty interesting manner once you learn it |
| 04:10.36 | |Jelly| | I make horrible sounds on the guitar all the time. |
| 04:10.37 | Wobin | Well piano is a bit more... reliable in tone |
| 04:10.44 | Shirik | lol |
| 04:10.46 | Shirik | not mine anymore |
| 04:10.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | using a combination of lip and tongue movements |
| 04:11.39 | Shirik | ok I need to go get something to eat before mcdonalds closes |
| 04:11.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | (trumpet players are popular with the ladies) |
| 04:12.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i guess guys too |
| 04:16.02 | Thunder_Child | bagpipes |
| 04:18.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | are a good way to lose friends |
| 04:25.57 | Iriel | Damn you guys, you made me look up videos of people playing rock band drums on expert, i'll /never/ get to that level |
| 04:26.36 | Thunder_Child | L2Play |
| 04:27.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | iriel, it's just about practice |
| 04:27.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | also, do you have rock band? |
| 04:27.40 | Iriel | I do have rock band, yes |
| 04:27.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | what console? :o |
| 04:27.46 | Iriel | 360 |
| 04:27.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | gief gamertag |
| 04:27.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | we need to rock out |
| 04:28.00 | MentalPower | aye, gief gamertag! |
| 04:28.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm Mr Rabies |
| 04:28.15 | MentalPower | MentalPower |
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| 04:29.10 | |Jelly| | I bet people that played quads would be good at that. |
| 04:29.29 | Iriel | MP, is that your gamertag? |
| 04:29.38 | MentalPower | aye |
| 04:29.40 | Iriel | I guess yes, now I read the context 8-) |
| 04:30.04 | Shirik | don't play against Iriel |
| 04:30.06 | Shirik | he probably hacks |
| 04:30.12 | Iriel | Invites sent (Flickering) |
| 04:30.15 | |Jelly| | He definitely hacks. |
| 04:30.18 | |Jelly| | HACKER! |
| 04:30.26 | Shirik | batbot, is Iriel a hacker? |
| 04:30.27 | batbot | Shirik, No. |
| 04:30.33 | Shirik | batbot, is |Jelly| a hacker? |
| 04:30.33 | batbot | Shirik, Yes... Definitely. |
| 04:30.33 | Iriel | see |
| 04:30.36 | Shirik | o.o |
| 04:30.40 | |Jelly| | SHHHHH |
| 04:30.50 | Iriel | I'd do better than medium if I haxxored |
| 04:30.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | if i don't accept a game invite sometime, i'm probably either trying to beat green grass and high tides |
| 04:31.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | or playing with friends, or just sitting at the menu not at the xbox |
| 04:31.17 | Iriel | likewise |
| 04:31.46 | Iriel | well, rarely just sitting at the menu, i turn it off then |
| 04:32.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | i half want mine to red ring |
| 04:32.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | so i can get one with hdmi |
| 04:32.51 | Iriel | I dont want to deal with transferring all my download licenses to another unit |
| 04:33.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh yeah |
| 04:33.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | ughhh |
| 04:33.06 | |Jelly| | Does rockband have a pedal or some type? |
| 04:33.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 04:33.14 | |Jelly| | good |
| 04:33.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's not the most sturdy thing in the world |
| 04:33.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it's there |
| 04:33.25 | Iriel | the cable needs to be longer |
| 04:33.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's plenty of homebrew stuff |
| 04:33.31 | Iriel | or else I need to buy a proper stool |
| 04:33.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | for the pedal? |
| 04:33.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's stretchy |
| 04:33.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | :o |
| 04:33.59 | Iriel | not enough |
| 04:34.05 | Iriel | it pulls back towards the stand |
| 04:34.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | stretch it out farther than it goes naturally and hold it down for a bit with something |
| 04:34.46 | Iriel | I suppose that may work |
| 04:35.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | it'll return to slightly longer |
| 04:36.07 | MentalPower | you can also try taping it to the floor |
| 04:36.30 | MentalPower | somehow I can't imagine Iriel playing drums in rockband... |
| 04:36.54 | Shirik | heh |
| 04:36.56 | Iriel | I'm not very good at them.. i can play about 4 songs on medium before my leg needs a break |
| 04:37.04 | Iriel | but I think that's because the pedal is too close |
| 04:37.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | how are you hitting it? |
| 04:37.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | heel up or heel down? |
| 04:37.33 | Iriel | heel down |
| 04:37.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | what are you moving to hit it, ankle or knee? |
| 04:37.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | try heel up, it's less tiring for most people |
| 04:39.03 | Iriel | ankle, it's the shin that hurts afterwards |
| 04:40.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://blog.wired.com/games/2008/01/rock-band-featu.html |
| 04:40.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | should help out a bit |
| 04:40.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | heel up is much much less tiring for most people |
| 04:40.54 | Tain | I thought it would be the opposite but it is true. |
| 04:41.04 | Iriel | we're back to the bigger problem though... I need a proper stool, my leg is too long |
| 04:41.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | your face is too long |
| 04:41.16 | Tain | My leg was much less hurty doing heel up. |
| 04:42.20 | Iriel | that page gets bookmarked tho 8-) |
| 04:42.52 | Tain | You can actually get great advice by looking for "real" drum tutorials out there. |
| 04:43.27 | Tain | Good explanations about how high you should be, how close to the drums, etc. |
| 04:43.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | high enough so that sweet leaf makes sense |
| 04:43.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | apparently |
| 04:43.54 | Iriel | One thing I wish rock band had is a diagnostics section which showed where you actually hit relative to the markers |
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| 04:45.55 | Shirik | ~ping |
| 04:45.56 | purl | pong |
| 04:46.00 | Shirik | this is odd.... |
| 04:46.07 | Shirik | The cable light on my modem is out :/ |
| 04:46.19 | Shirik | But apparently I'm still here o.o |
| 04:46.21 | |Jelly| | so replace the light. duh. |
| 04:46.32 | Shirik | No I just DCed from wow |
| 04:46.46 | Shirik | I think it's telling me I need to go to sleep |
| 04:46.47 | Iriel | my computer restarted itself spontaneously (and kicked me from wow) |
| 04:46.49 | Iriel | that was fun |
| 04:46.50 | Shirik | so I will, night |
| 04:47.17 | Shirik|zZz | Iriel: I would be a bit concerned if your computer restarted and it didn't kick you from wow |
| 04:48.08 | batrick | iriel must be passive aggressive |
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| 04:49.26 | Thunder_Child | $40 Iriel |
| 04:49.47 | Thunder_Child | nvm i lie |
| 04:50.08 | Thunder_Child | it seems in general a bit more http://www.guitarcenter.com/Thrones-Parts-and-Hardware.gc?source=4WWRWXGG |
| 04:51.27 | Iriel | there are some in that range |
| 04:52.28 | Iriel | Guess there may be a trip to guitar center in my future |
| 04:56.37 | Tem | ugh |
| 04:56.53 | Tem | they really need to fix the bug where you fall through the world in a BG |
| 04:57.00 | Tem | because of fear |
| 04:57.28 | Tem | also, the part where you don't die and are stuck there until the match ends or you leave is pretty lame too |
| 04:57.46 | Thunder_Child | while i love music and all isnt it more worth it to learn to play the actual instument? |
| 04:59.57 | MentalPower | at least with the drums, its an easier transition |
| 05:00.06 | MentalPower | from rockband to actual drums |
| 05:00.14 | MentalPower | you learn a lot of the same basic skills |
| 05:01.10 | Tain | While I love World of Warcraft and all isn't it more worth it to learn to kill actual dragons? |
| 05:01.19 | Iriel | they're so hard to find. |
| 05:01.21 | Iriel | dragons. |
| 05:01.36 | Tain | And what's this Counter Strike nonsense? Why not just go out and kill actual people? |
| 05:02.33 | NightHawkTheSane | Tain: and what's all this rogue-like nonsense? I'll just fucking go into angband myself! |
| 05:02.38 | NightHawkTheSane | </oldschool> |
| 05:03.49 | Tain | It's dark. You are likely to be eaten by a grue. |
| 05:05.48 | Tem | You have fallen to a grue. |
| 05:06.03 | Tem | Your treasure have been stolen by Gullstaff the Great. |
| 05:10.17 | Iriel | Ah,, angband.. I wonder if i'm still in the credits. |
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| 05:12.22 | Iriel | guess not. |
| 05:13.56 | Iriel | angband was developed by a bunch of folks I went to university with, I remember fun moments such as Andy Astrand shrieking as he was chased down the hall by an accidently-mobile mushroom. |
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| 05:18.21 | Thunder_Child | ya ya, but |
| 05:21.46 | *** join/#wowi-lounge malreth (n=malreth@cpe-72-177-113-22.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 05:22.02 | malreth | ~seen cogwheel |
| 05:22.04 | purl | cogwheel <n=chatzill@c-67-164-121-134.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 2h 2m 13s ago, saying: 'inc family spam'. |
| 05:22.11 | malreth | aw... |
| 05:22.22 | Thunder_Child | as in aw crap? |
| 05:22.36 | malreth | as in aw that's a shame |
| 05:22.47 | malreth | i love him like a brother i do |
| 05:23.21 | Iriel | hey malreth I was on SH tonight and you weren't, so stop accusing me of not playing 8-) |
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| 05:23.35 | malreth | i saw you on the other day... you were in nagrand last night |
| 05:24.07 | malreth | !c us Silver Hand Kyleigh |
| 05:24.31 | Iriel | hmm.. stalker |
| 05:24.56 | malreth | anyways... that's who i'll usually be logged in... usually with my fiancee |
| 05:25.18 | ThraeBot | malreth: Kyleigh is not the character you are looking for! |
| 05:25.26 | malreth | nooooooooo.... |
| 05:26.32 | Thunder_Child | *snicker* |
| 05:30.15 | malreth | the mac mod thread was more interesting than the stinkyqueue threads... i miss having fun like that |
| 05:31.06 | malreth | years ago, when i was in high school and a freshman/sophomore in college, i was an Evangelista. crazy insane mac zealot cult. |
| 05:31.36 | malreth | i would go to comp usa stores and fix up the macs... install games and stuff on them and leave |
| 05:32.33 | malreth | i'd fire off e-mail carpet bombs to people... even sent a nastygram to a certain Yale administrator who eventually came to my school and ended up being my boss's boss's boss's boss honcho man |
| 05:33.01 | malreth | ah, those were the days... carefree and angry |
| 05:33.24 | Thunder_Child | ooohh, hardware upgrades tomorrow |
| 05:33.24 | malreth | mostly angry |
| 05:33.41 | malreth | i'm a much more calm individual now |
| 05:33.44 | malreth | also i use windows |
| 05:33.50 | malreth | BWAH HA HA HA!!! |
| 05:34.01 | Thunder_Child | ~calm malreth |
| 05:34.01 | purl | ACTION sooths malreth, offers a backrub, tea, a jacuzzi and anything else that might help calm malreth down. |
| 05:34.06 | malreth | nice |
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| 05:36.33 | kd3 | hm... I wonder if there's a way to get wine to bind to a specific ethernet address should I have two NICs running... |
| 05:38.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm sure there is |
| 05:38.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | though that stuff seems to be pretty lacking still in most OS's |
| 05:39.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | multiple-NIC stuff, but i'd imagine it'd be easily done in linux since it's used heavily in server situations |
| 05:39.41 | kd3 | ya, and I can in a lot of stuff that I'm getting ready for (xchat, pidgin, etc...). just can't figure out how to do it for wine |
| 05:40.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | add antifreeze |
| 05:40.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | mellows the flavor out |
| 05:43.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | Should ingestion of antifreeze occur, ethanol (alcoholic beverages) can be administered until proper treatment can be started in order to slow the conversion of methanol to formaldehyde and formic acid which are the substances responsible for methanol's toxicity. |
| 05:43.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | wow |
| 05:43.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's a great cure |
| 05:43.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | DOC HE'S POISONED, WHAT DO I DO?! |
| 05:43.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | GET HIM WASTED OFF HIS ASS, STAT |
| 05:46.19 | malreth | keep everclear next to the prestone |
| 05:48.14 | Thunder_Child | alcohol not paint thiner |
| 05:48.21 | Thunder_Child | thinner*? |
| 05:48.22 | Thunder_Child | w/e |
| 05:49.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | well the good news is we've slowed down his antifreeze poisoning |
| 05:49.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | the bad news is that he's blind from alcohol poisoning |
| 05:57.23 | malreth | lol! i got a complement from Kelfarr: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3913737408&pageNo=1&sid=1#5 |
| 05:58.28 | malreth | i'm done attention whoring for tonight |
| 05:58.42 | malreth | i'll come back tomorrow for some more |
| 06:00.10 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:14.14 | Thunder_Child | heh "10:14:02, Slavering Ghoul dies, you gain 666 experience." |
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| 06:20.31 | MentalPower | So... I have this hashing script (written in Lua http://wowi.pastey.net/80696) thats failing with an out of memory error when its printing the table (last step). Any ideas on how I can make it better? |
| 06:20.55 | Thunder_Child | random wow quote "22:20:39 [1] <70:Santisyahu>: STOP BUGGING TALREND HES HELPING HIS SISTERZ" |
| 07:02.50 | Thunder_Child | ~look |
| 07:02.50 | purl | I seeeeee it... http://master.debian.org/%7Evincent/xfree-3.3.3.1/... |
| 07:03.09 | Thunder_Child | ~see |
| 07:03.10 | purl | You didn't see anything... |
| 07:03.25 | Thunder_Child | ~explore |
| 07:03.38 | Thunder_Child | ~discover |
| 07:03.39 | purl | [discover] a hardware identification system based on the libdiscover1 library |
| 07:05.49 | Thunder_Child | ~find |
| 07:05.52 | Thunder_Child | ~search |
| 07:05.53 | purl | [search] try 'apt-cache search <regex>', if you want to know what package owns a file use dpkg -S /bin/foo. To find a package based on what files it includes use 'apt-get install apt-file;apt-file update;apt-file search foo'. Use http://packages.debian.org if you're not on a debian system. /msg apt find <thing> if you're already here. |
| 07:07.13 | Thunder_Child | ~wonder |
| 07:07.13 | purl | i heard wonder is not knowing what's going down. or trying to figure out how the hell that code does what it does. or miracles. |
| 07:07.16 | Thunder_Child | ~blaze |
| 07:07.20 | Thunder_Child | ~fire |
| 07:07.21 | purl | Bender : Light a fire for a man and he's warm for a night. Light a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life... |
| 07:07.38 | |pez| | weird that... :P |
| 07:07.58 | Thunder_Child | thats people for ya |
| 07:09.19 | Thunder_Child | ~smoke |
| 07:09.19 | purl | well, smoke is what runs your computer. don't let it out, or the computer won't work |
| 07:10.12 | Thunder_Child | ~pray |
| 07:10.12 | purl | May the penguin be with you... |
| 07:10.33 | Thunder_Child | ~murphy |
| 07:10.34 | purl | If anything can go wrong, it will. |
| 07:10.52 | Thunder_Child | ~murphys law |
| 07:10.56 | Thunder_Child | ~murphy's law |
| 07:10.57 | purl | In a voice like thunder, Edward A. Murphy proclaimed, "If there are two or more ways to do something and one of those results in catastrophe, then someone will do it that way." This is the True and Original version of Murphy's Law. (see Finagle's Law) |
| 07:11.17 | Thunder_Child | uh, that pinged me |
| 07:12.56 | Thunder_Child | ~finagle's law |
| 07:12.57 | purl | [finagle's law] "Anything that can go wrong will go wrong, and at the worst possible time." |
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| 08:19.22 | art3mis | eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 08:19.50 | Cairenn | heh |
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| 08:40.38 | Fin | clad|away: ping re: patch for LH to autoload data |
| 08:43.34 | Maldivia | ahh... finally got around to making a greasemonkey script, to filter out annoying signatures |
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| 08:54.12 | art3mis | laugh mal |
| 08:54.19 | art3mis | ive been thinking that alot lately |
| 08:54.32 | art3mis | too many stupid people with retarded HUGE "banner" sig |
| 08:54.33 | art3mis | s |
| 08:55.23 | Maldivia | exactly :) |
| 08:56.14 | Maldivia | well, changed it, to make normal signatures a smaller font, and completely removing signatures with ascii art in them :) |
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| 08:56.55 | art3mis | heh |
| 08:58.10 | |pez| | I love it whena single signature ina forum takes like half of my screen. |
| 09:00.01 | art3mis | i like it when someone quotes 2 pages for a 1 line single word comment and has a 1/4 window sized signature |
| 09:00.41 | |pez| | this is basicly just random idiotic images - http://forums.gamewaredevelopment.com/member.php?u=2684 |
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| 09:02.09 | Maldivia | well, if anyone is interested: http://wowi.pastey.net/80701 |
| 09:03.07 | art3mis | http://www.mmowned.com/forums/wow-exploits/80874-become-sheepy-all-ur-friends-server-side.html |
| 09:03.23 | art3mis | mal post it up on Ff's addons site ;P |
| 09:04.50 | clad|office | art3mis: Please don't link that site in this channel |
| 09:05.20 | art3mis | okies |
| 09:05.33 | art3mis | it was shorter than the neat trick though |
| 09:05.37 | art3mis | sneepy! |
| 09:05.41 | art3mis | sheepy even |
| 09:05.47 | clad|office | yes, but it links to lots of inappapropriate things |
| 09:05.55 | clad|office | something we don't like in this channel |
| 09:05.56 | art3mis | yeh i suppose |
| 09:06.29 | Kalroth | Bookmarked, thanks! Now I just need a site where I can find gold dupes, new bot scripts and how to make my enemies go offline in arenas for free ratings! |
| 09:06.36 | art3mis | no it's something you don't like in this channel ;P |
| 09:06.40 | art3mis | heh |
| 09:06.56 | Fin | also: http://www.edgeofnowhere.cc/ if you want to know about sites like that :) |
| 09:07.02 | art3mis | the rest of us understand the limits of not being banned in the game |
| 09:07.07 | Kalroth | I was being sarcastic :( |
| 09:07.15 | clad|office | Fin: ... |
| 09:07.26 | clad|office | Seriously, can we not? |
| 09:07.32 | art3mis | also you can look at it this way... if there is a blizz person lurking them seeing things that are bad can get it fixed faster ;P |
| 09:07.34 | Fin | honestly if you spend five minutes on the site you can see how much rubbish there is |
| 09:07.36 | clad|office | Have Cairenn and I not been clear enough about our stance on this?# |
| 09:07.50 | clad|office | art3mis: Thats a nice ideal, but not realistic |
| 09:07.54 | clad|office | They're fully aware of these sites |
| 09:08.05 | art3mis | and we're fully aware of what gets you banned |
| 09:08.07 | clad|office | the difference is us linking and promoting them in a channel that we're lucky enough to have Blizzard visit/lurk. |
| 09:08.08 | Fin | it's mostly people gasping for sploitZ and people posting stuff that only works on private servers |
| 09:08.20 | art3mis | i dont see why you'd wanna filter or restrict discussion and the like |
| 09:08.40 | clad|office | sure, have hypothetical discussions |
| 09:08.44 | clad|office | we've ben through this before, like 10,000 times. |
| 09:08.44 | art3mis | i personally could do without the "hey look what i posted on the wow forums" links |
| 09:08.47 | clad|office | but do not link that shit here. |
| 09:08.52 | clad|office | period. |
| 09:09.06 | art3mis | ive said it before and ill say it again |
| 09:09.07 | art3mis | grow up |
| 09:09.13 | Fin | what's an appropriate place to discuss that side of the game then? if we have no interest in actually exploiting anything? |
| 09:09.13 | clad|office | Excuse me? |
| 09:09.21 | art3mis | the little im controller nazi bullshit is getting tired |
| 09:09.26 | Cairenn | enough |
| 09:09.58 | art3mis | fin as far as clad is concerned there isnt |
| 09:10.08 | clad|office | that's bullshit and you know it |
| 09:10.50 | Fin | I disagree with the stance, but, in the end that sort of decision isn't mine to make |
| 09:10.54 | Tierrie | art3mis! |
| 09:10.58 | art3mis | hi terry |
| 09:11.01 | Tierrie | dude i am finally just getting started on the photographs |
| 09:11.06 | Tierrie | so many |
| 09:11.10 | Tierrie | oh sooo many |
| 09:11.12 | art3mis | heh that should take a fair amount of time |
| 09:11.16 | art3mis | all 4k ;) |
| 09:11.46 | Fin | would've been perhaps a little nicer if the rules were explained in a less officious manner, but, I can get over that |
| 09:11.57 | Tierrie | yeah like seriously, 1700 from me 600 from lily |
| 09:12.03 | Fin | hey you know what would be cool? vodka ice cream |
| 09:12.03 | art3mis | im over it, but ill argue it everytime it's displayed ;P |
| 09:12.06 | art3mis | hahah |
| 09:12.07 | Fin | banana vodka ice cream |
| 09:12.17 | art3mis | you were only here a2 weeks! |
| 09:12.27 | Tierrie | yeah well, i had a heavy finger |
| 09:12.28 | art3mis | i dont think lily liked me ;) |
| 09:12.34 | art3mis | and a fast shutter |
| 09:12.49 | |pez| | I want vodka jello(?) |
| 09:12.53 | Fin | fried! banana vodka ice cream |
| 09:15.59 | Tierrie | you know what's awesome? |
| 09:16.00 | Tierrie | cairenn |
| 09:16.25 | Tierrie | hey i heard blizzcon 2008? is that true? |
| 09:16.28 | Fin | clad|office: hey so I didn't get no pong :( does that mean you're not interested in the patchette? |
| 09:16.38 | Maldivia | Tierrie: yes, no dates yet though |
| 09:17.00 | clad|office | Fin: I'm not at my home computer, so I probably didn't see your message, whats up? |
| 09:17.12 | Tierrie | thanks maldiva |
| 09:17.44 | Fin | clad|office: oh, righto. I finally added the option to my local copy of LH to autoload quest data when opening the LH frame |
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| 09:18.15 | AlexanderYoshi | And that's when I said to Anduin, we keep the hammer in the closet! |
| 09:18.17 | AlexanderYoshi | Hahahahahah |
| 09:18.29 | Cairenn | lol |
| 09:18.33 | Fin | clad|office: so quest lines don't show up as Quest 1 etc. you said earlier that you'd accept a patch that does this - is that still true, and if so what's your preferred way of getting it? :) |
| 09:18.52 | Cairenn | hey Alex :) |
| 09:19.01 | AlexanderYoshi | Hi Cai |
| 09:19.09 | AlexanderYoshi | Long time no see |
| 09:19.14 | AlexanderYoshi | How have you been? |
| 09:19.20 | Cairenn | where are you guys getting this rumour of BlizzCon '08? |
| 09:19.24 | clad|office | Fin: How's the option toggled? And a diff against the latest release is perfect |
| 09:19.30 | clad|office | AlexanderYoshi: zomg hai thar |
| 09:19.33 | Fin | clad|office: /lh autodata |
| 09:19.40 | Cairenn | AlexanderYoshi: doing well, yourself? it's been forever since you've popped in here |
| 09:19.42 | AlexanderYoshi | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:19.43 | clad|office | Fin: sure, sounds good. |
| 09:19.49 | AlexanderYoshi | Yeah, at least a year or so right? |
| 09:19.59 | Cairenn | something like that |
| 09:20.03 | Fin | righto, do you want it mailed or on pastey or..? |
| 09:20.05 | Cairenn | life treating you well? |
| 09:20.25 | AlexanderYoshi | Yeah, I just bought a car last saturday |
| 09:20.33 | clad|office | ooh, anything nice? |
| 09:20.41 | clad|office | its 1am in cali, right? |
| 09:20.51 | AlexanderYoshi | Yeah, a red g35 |
| 09:21.02 | AlexanderYoshi | Its the sexiest car I've ever owned. |
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| 09:21.27 | Cairenn | new car smell!!! |
| 09:21.51 | AlexanderYoshi | Yeah, thankfully that's going away now. |
| 09:21.53 | AlexanderYoshi | :) |
| 09:22.03 | Cairenn | lol |
| 09:22.09 | art3mis | why wouldnt there be a blizzcon 08? |
| 09:22.26 | clad|office | there wasn't a Blizzcon 06, its not necessarily yearly |
| 09:22.30 | art3mis | i bet they made gobs of cash ;) |
| 09:22.39 | art3mis | they should have it in nyc this year though |
| 09:22.42 | clad|office | heh |
| 09:22.48 | Cairenn | god, don't I wish! |
| 09:22.49 | clad|office | I support Blizzcon East |
| 09:22.57 | Cairenn | me too! |
| 09:23.01 | nevcairiel | i support blizzcon europe! |
| 09:23.03 | AlexanderYoshi | Man, I thought Blizzcons were only every 2 years. |
| 09:23.07 | art3mis | i'd go if i just had to drive to the javits center |
| 09:23.19 | AlexanderYoshi | They're such a headache. Tho the chicks that show up are cute. |
| 09:23.22 | Cairenn | guess we'll find out |
| 09:24.07 | AlexanderYoshi | I wasn't talking about you, Cairenn! :-P |
| 09:24.16 | AlexanderYoshi | *stomps off* |
| 09:25.26 | Cairenn | lol |
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| 09:25.34 | AlexanderYoshi | Hi Esamynn |
| 09:25.37 | AlexanderYoshi | Long time no see |
| 09:25.39 | AlexanderYoshi | How are oyu |
| 09:25.54 | Kalroth | aww |
| 09:26.09 | AlexanderYoshi | aww |
| 09:26.32 | Kalroth | You stomped at Cairenn! |
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| 09:37.37 | art3mis | http://www.trsi.org/machines/amiga.asp |
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| 09:49.07 | Maldivia | Cairenn: there was a post on the forums not too long ago, where it was hinted... but ofcouse, nothing confirmed |
| 09:49.42 | Cairenn | Maldivia: huh, okay |
| 09:50.12 | Maldivia | can't find it right now though |
| 09:50.20 | Cairenn | no worries |
| 09:51.27 | clad|office | there was one Blizzcon 2008 topic on the forums |
| 09:51.54 | clad|office | but drysc and bornak both posted that "if there were any updated on any blizzon, it would be posted on blizzcon.com" and that "Blizzcon isn't necessarily a yearly event" |
| 09:51.59 | clad|office | I took that as a pretty solid "no" :P |
| 09:54.01 | Kalroth | http://www.timecube.com/ got some interesting and solid viewpoints. Don't mind the shabby layout, it's the content that matters! |
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| 09:59.07 | bleeter | clad|office: from my understanding, they're kinda eager for a blizzcon in EU |
| 09:59.21 | bleeter | well, more eager for an EU blizzcon than an Oceanic one ;) |
| 09:59.34 | bleeter | even if our weather and chicks are better |
| 10:00.10 | nevcairiel | oceanic is so scatterd, no matter where you do it, everyone would have a hell of a journey :P |
| 10:01.06 | bleeter | yeah, but to us, we're used to it |
| 10:01.39 | bleeter | I remember the look of horror on some european's faces when us aussies were 'oh, we're gunna go to <insert some town 500km's away> for lunch today' |
| 10:01.42 | krka | blizzcon in stockholm ftw |
| 10:01.59 | |pez| | Oslo! WOo! |
| 10:02.09 | nevcairiel | i bet they would do it in france because blizzard eu sits there |
| 10:02.21 | bleeter | the south of france ftw! |
| 10:02.29 | krka | 500 km? that's like 5 hours of driving... you spend that much time getting lunch? |
| 10:02.59 | bleeter | krka: some folks in sydney commute like 4 hours each way every day :P |
| 10:02.59 | |pez| | aaah, it's 500km from my hometown to the town i live in now, it takes 7 hours due to crappy roads. |
| 10:03.42 | krka | sounds like a big waste of time and resources |
| 10:06.20 | Fin | clad|office: http://fin.pastey.net/80704 |
| 10:06.40 | nevcairiel | unified diffs > * |
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| 10:06.57 | Fin | sure |
| 10:08.04 | Fin | http://fin.pastey.net/80705 |
| 10:08.18 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 10:08.21 | nevcairiel | wrong direction :P |
| 10:08.31 | Fin | er, oops |
| 10:09.23 | Fin | no it's not |
| 10:09.25 | Fin | maybe you should check |
| 10:09.33 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 10:09.43 | Fin | seems fine to me! |
| 10:09.48 | Fin | :P |
| 10:12.10 | bleeter | krka: well, that's sydney for you... big waste of time and resources ;) |
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| 10:25.17 | art3mis | hahaha |
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| 11:34.57 | bleeter | damnit |
| 11:35.17 | bleeter | forum login's down so I can't say what I wanna say to rushter |
| 11:35.37 | bleeter | the punchline of which was 'last time I had a trojan/virus was sometime last century' |
| 11:37.41 | bleeter | so.. hmm, prolly a good idea that I can't login |
| 11:38.24 | bleeter | actually, Shirik|zZz and others.. what I'd like to know is whether current AV tools pick up the original trojan... or for that matter, launcher.exe. Anyone still got the original laying around? |
| 11:38.51 | bleeter | |pez|: local trash dump :P |
| 11:39.11 | |pez| | I love my HP really |
| 11:39.24 | |pez| | if it wasn't for the overheating, I'd gladly use it for a lot longer. |
| 11:39.26 | bleeter | part's are cheaper, service is non-existant (but hey, not paying for it), don't have to deal with geeky salesfolk :P |
| 11:39.31 | bleeter | er .. parts |
| 11:39.51 | |pez| | The problem is very simple. computer is way to warm for it's own good. |
| 11:39.54 | |pez| | and it's not my fault. |
| 11:40.06 | |pez| | so I'm not paying for service either. |
| 11:40.21 | bleeter | taken the vacuum cleaner to it recently? :P |
| 11:40.52 | bleeter | actually, I seem to recall a bug on the linux acpi list a day or so ago, driving core CPU temp up to shutdown levels in about 30 seconds or so |
| 11:40.55 | |pez| | I've looked at the inside, it's freakishly clean and non dusty. |
| 11:41.43 | bleeter | are you given the luxury of ambient box temp sensor as well as cpu temp sensor? |
| 11:42.14 | bleeter | nothing much annoys me more with heat issues when there's only one damned sensor to work from |
| 11:42.22 | |pez| | Don't think there's anything like that on this thing by default. |
| 11:42.28 | |pez| | but touching underside of computer = owie |
| 11:42.38 | |pez| | computer also is a laptop, I might add. |
| 11:42.44 | bleeter | oh |
| 11:42.54 | bleeter | so can't really open it up and freezespray selected areas |
| 11:43.00 | |pez| | nuh |
| 11:43.03 | bleeter | bummer |
| 11:43.40 | bleeter | my lappy is pretty hot after running a while.. I just remind myself that it's normal 'coz it's not a laptop but a notebook ;) |
| 11:43.47 | |pez| | But, seeing as how it can't be dust or anything of the like, it is not my fault that the computer is overheating, and is a product error. And I should get it covered due to great norwegian laws about these things. |
| 11:44.12 | bleeter | hel yeah, if you've got deecnt consumer protection laws.. go for it ;) |
| 11:44.21 | bleeter | gah, speeling twf! |
| 11:44.43 | |pez| | there's dust in my keyboard sure, but my keyboard has this wonderfull protectionthingie on the underside, so very little of whtever dust / crap is in my keyboard goes any further than the keyboard. :P |
| 11:46.00 | bleeter | bed time for me.. toodles! have a great day :) |
| 11:46.07 | |pez| | my computer is very cool like this, I looked around inside it when I opened it the other day |
| 11:46.49 | |pez| | it's extremly modular, and I can replace my keyboard with taking out like two screws and a cable. :P |
| 11:46.58 | |pez| | given that I have a new keyboard that fits ofcourse. |
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| 11:47.09 | |pez| | same with the touchpad thingie. |
| 11:47.24 | |pez| | ninight bleeter ^^ |
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| 13:08.47 | phetips | sup |
| 13:09.12 | phetips | anyone into memory corruption exploits? :) |
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| 13:09.37 | phetips | just out of curiosity |
| 13:10.09 | phetips | i'm not talking about WoW specific |
| 13:12.11 | Kalroth | You mean buffer overruns and the likes? |
| 13:12.39 | phetips | yes |
| 13:12.43 | phetips | stack overflows, heap overflows |
| 13:12.49 | phetips | kernel bugs |
| 13:13.01 | |pez| | the intarweb is failing! ... in some parts of NOrway XD |
| 13:14.53 | Polarina | phetips: I had interests in it but it became boring since people don't bother fixing the C stack overflows in their lua bots. |
| 13:15.53 | phetips | well |
| 13:16.21 | phetips | interested in my article on exploiting stack overflows in a VA-patched environment? |
| 13:16.39 | wereHamster | VA? |
| 13:16.50 | phetips | virtualization |
| 13:16.55 | phetips | random stack addresses |
| 13:17.12 | phetips | http://milw0rm.com/papers/94 |
| 13:17.35 | wereHamster | didn't you post that here a couple days ago? |
| 13:18.04 | phetips | yep |
| 13:18.27 | phetips | i wrote it, and i like to make people read it :P |
| 13:18.31 | phetips | i'm an ass i don't care 8-) |
| 13:23.21 | Polarina | phetips: But you required root acces to set some permissions on that executable (I saw you used sudo) |
| 13:24.39 | Polarina | phetips: So, if you have root access through sudo, you don't need that exploit really. |
| 13:24.39 | phetips | hehe, yes but that is the example |
| 13:24.54 | phetips | it is exactly about exploiting other programs that use root acces to gain root acces yourself :) |
| 13:25.01 | phetips | the actual exploiting doesn't happen under root |
| 13:25.05 | phetips | only setting up the example |
| 13:25.25 | phetips | buffer overflows are very common in a lot of deamons etc. |
| 13:25.32 | phetips | and they all need root |
| 13:25.47 | Polarina | phetips: You should let the kernel developers know about this. |
| 13:25.56 | phetips | i have |
| 13:25.58 | phetips | :) |
| 13:26.04 | phetips | together with a few other people |
| 13:26.07 | Polarina | Were they angry? |
| 13:26.11 | phetips | there are plans for further randomization |
| 13:26.17 | phetips | no they weren't |
| 13:26.36 | phetips | the solution isn't all that complicated |
| 13:26.42 | Polarina | Random = A chance = A chance to exploit = BANG! |
| 13:27.03 | phetips | yes but bruteforcing addresses like that |
| 13:27.14 | phetips | will crash the deamons long before you hit the right address :) |
| 13:27.25 | Polarina | A change = Explot. These are my final words. |
| 13:27.26 | phetips | so you have to know exactly what address you need |
| 13:27.36 | phetips | that's why they randomized the stack |
| 13:27.47 | Polarina | s/Explot/Exploit/ |
| 13:28.02 | phetips | but they didn't randomize other parts of virtual memory assigned to processes |
| 13:28.16 | phetips | if they do, exploiting stack overflows in this way is pretty much dead |
| 13:28.25 | Polarina | phetips: You might crash it before you get the right address - But that exploit is still possible (With luck) so randomisation isn't a fix at all. |
| 13:28.46 | wereHamster | there's nothing you can 'fix' .. |
| 13:28.51 | phetips | of course |
| 13:28.53 | phetips | there is also a chance |
| 13:28.59 | phetips | that i will guess your password in the first attempt |
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| 13:29.04 | phetips | can't deny the chance is there, can you? |
| 13:29.22 | Polarina | wereHamster: You can fix, programs can run in a virtual machine where it intepretes the opcodes. (Slow though) |
| 13:29.36 | wereHamster | if people will continue wride bad code, there will always be a chance for an exploit |
| 13:29.42 | phetips | wereHamster: true |
| 13:29.50 | phetips | wereHamster: and luckily |
| 13:29.56 | phetips | there will always be people that write crappy code |
| 13:30.14 | Polarina | phetips: Sure, you could guess me password, but to remove that chance, I removed the su and sudo command from my system. :) |
| 13:30.23 | Polarina | s/me/my/ |
| 13:30.39 | phetips | >< |
| 13:30.49 | phetips | what platform/kernel you on? |
| 13:30.55 | Polarina | GNU/Linux. |
| 13:31.00 | phetips | x86? |
| 13:31.08 | Polarina | Yes. |
| 13:31.21 | phetips | my favourite :) |
| 13:31.46 | Fin | you should really change root's UID as well |
| 13:31.49 | phetips | reading a book on the linux x86 kernel |
| 13:31.55 | Polarina | phetips: But you have no use with my root password if you have no place to enter it to gain the root access (su, sudo, etc.) |
| 13:32.22 | phetips | still, you're using linux x86 |
| 13:32.40 | phetips | a lot of ways to gain root |
| 13:33.06 | Polarina | I know. |
| 13:33.20 | Fin | as long as privilege escalation is possible, removing su is just security through obscurity |
| 13:33.29 | wereHamster | changing the roots UID will break a lot scripts, many rely on root UID=0 |
| 13:33.29 | phetips | i heard rumours of a remote tcp/ip-stack vulnerability in the latest linux kernel |
| 13:33.33 | Polarina | I was just telling you that having the root password doesn't necessarily mean being able to gain root access. |
| 13:33.39 | phetips | Fin: exactly |
| 13:34.01 | Fin | wereHamster: yes - but, unfortunately, they were badly written scripts! |
| 13:34.07 | Fin | they needed to be fixed anyway |
| 13:34.09 | Fin | :) |
| 13:34.15 | phetips | but ah well |
| 13:34.20 | Polarina | phetips: TCP/IP stack attack? |
| 13:34.25 | phetips | haha |
| 13:34.34 | phetips | the "tcp/ip stack" |
| 13:35.00 | Polarina | phetips: I'm asking you to NOT release the method of that attack should I be able to do so and report it immedieatly to the developers! |
| 13:35.03 | phetips | that's what the part in the linux kernel that handles traffic |
| 13:35.15 | Polarina | s/should I/should you/ |
| 13:35.29 | wereHamster | Fin, how would you write 'if [ USER==root ]; then' ? |
| 13:36.03 | phetips | that's a littly oversimplified |
| 13:36.08 | phetips | lol |
| 13:36.09 | phetips | *a little |
| 13:36.18 | |pez| | I don't have any brownies left... ;__; |
| 13:36.35 | phetips | Polarina: i'm sorry i like to think of myself as a grey-hat |
| 13:36.41 | phetips | i don't care who get's the method |
| 13:36.47 | Polarina | phetips: Tinfoil Hat? |
| 13:36.48 | phetips | i'll probably give it to everyone if i knew of it |
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| 13:37.09 | phetips | that's what i did with this paper |
| 13:37.15 | phetips | linux developers got to know about it |
| 13:37.18 | phetips | but the rest of the world too |
| 13:37.20 | phetips | well |
| 13:37.21 | phetips | haha |
| 13:37.24 | phetips | no, not the rest of the world |
| 13:37.25 | Polarina | phetips: :) |
| 13:37.27 | phetips | but anyone who cared :) |
| 13:37.55 | Polarina | phetips: Just make sure that it won't take them long to fix that bug and release a patch after you've released these notes. |
| 13:38.03 | Polarina | :P |
| 13:38.17 | phetips | it's all about who found the bug |
| 13:38.27 | phetips | if they wish to keep it private for their own gain |
| 13:38.32 | phetips | then i'm not going to interfere :) |
| 13:38.37 | phetips | if i found it myself |
| 13:38.43 | Fin | I'd use id(1) |
| 13:38.45 | phetips | i'd place it on the wed |
| 13:38.56 | phetips | web |
| 13:39.04 | Polarina | As you wish. :) |
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| 13:39.35 | phetips | i know of several 0-day (as in not fixed yet) exploits |
| 13:39.40 | phetips | that the developers don't even know about :) |
| 13:39.50 | Fin | golly I wish I was you |
| 13:40.12 | phetips | Fin: i'm sorry for bragging, i didn't mean it like that |
| 13:40.22 | phetips | i meant saying that indeed, you can't really secure a PC |
| 13:40.45 | phetips | i don't have these 0-days |
| 13:40.51 | phetips | i'm saying i know they exist |
| 13:41.33 | wereHamster | Polarina, plug the network cable out, put the computer into a locked closet, don't allow any physical access |
| 13:41.51 | wereHamster | there yo have your secure env. |
| 13:42.05 | phetips | yes, and then hope that your processor doesn't rebel and start a revolution |
| 13:42.07 | phetips | like in that movie |
| 13:43.03 | Shirik | I would love to know how you did that Polarina |
| 13:43.13 | Shirik | because by its definition you can't be guaranteed how the compiler generated code |
| 13:43.27 | phetips | yeah |
| 13:43.32 | phetips | "all undefined behaviours"? |
| 13:43.33 | phetips | define that |
| 13:44.05 | Polarina | phetips: But there's one thing that makes computers unsecure, even if all the applications, kernel, everything were written absolutely secure with *NO* bugs or whatsoever. |
| 13:44.19 | Fin | users |
| 13:44.27 | Polarina | Fin: That implied. |
| 13:44.44 | phetips | of course |
| 13:44.49 | Polarina | Fin: No bugs in software / Users can't break it without the permissions. |
| 13:44.56 | phetips | but that doesn't make computers insecure, it makes using computers insecure |
| 13:45.15 | phetips | i'm talking about technical security |
| 13:45.22 | phetips | of course, theres always the users |
| 13:45.27 | Polarina | phetips: I'm talking about physicaly damaged memory.. |
| 13:45.30 | Fin | a network connection, then |
| 13:45.51 | Polarina | s/memory/computer memory/ |
| 13:47.01 | Shirik | Broken memory is going to make your computer unreliable, not insecure. It /could/ lead to security problems but the chances of that are like one in a million. It would far more likely crash. |
| 13:47.25 | phetips | Shirik: yes, i think he means that using data storage |
| 13:47.35 | Polarina | True, but possible. :) |
| 13:47.40 | phetips | is never safe, because you could physically destroy it |
| 13:47.55 | phetips | but that goes for any kind of storage |
| 13:48.16 | Shirik | If you follow the standards for data backup you should be fine. |
| 13:48.24 | Polarina | phetips: If the software is completely free of bugs, any kind of file feed to it wouldn't crash it.. |
| 13:48.44 | phetips | file feed? |
| 13:48.54 | Polarina | phetips: cat <a file> |
| 13:49.07 | phetips | it's not just about command line arguments |
| 13:49.12 | phetips | it's about any argument, to any function |
| 13:49.14 | phetips | in any part of code |
| 13:49.23 | Polarina | True. |
| 13:49.39 | phetips | vulnerabilities can be very deeply nested into a piece of code |
| 13:49.44 | phetips | and are therefore often very hard to spot |
| 13:49.44 | Shirik | cat /dev/hda > /dev/audio |
| 13:49.50 | phetips | Shirik: :) |
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| 14:03.09 | phetips | hm |
| 14:03.17 | phetips | anyone uses skillet? |
| 14:03.26 | phetips | the version hosted on wowinterface is out of date |
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| 14:07.32 | Bela|work | ask the author to update it |
| 14:17.54 | ralfWORK | what is Skillet? |
| 14:19.07 | phetips | tradeskill window recplacement |
| 14:19.22 | ralfWORK | hmm. ok. |
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| 14:20.57 | ralfWORK | what does it bring to the table though, really? |
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| 14:37.05 | Fin | Cairenn|afk: http://fin.instinct.org/wowmods/i/3454:lalala <-- que? |
| 14:37.25 | Shirik | heh |
| 14:37.43 | Shirik | Cairenn was showing me something last night >< |
| 14:38.10 | Shirik | How did you get that |
| 14:40.02 | End | Fin is magical |
| 14:40.05 | End | that's how |
| 14:40.09 | Kalroth | You are not authorized to view this file... |
| 14:40.11 | Kalroth | :(( |
| 14:40.47 | Fin | yeah! something dodgy mcdodgetastic going on |
| 14:40.55 | Fin | is it porn? |
| 14:40.58 | Fin | I bet it's porn |
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| 14:41.04 | Fin | really, that's terrible |
| 14:41.10 | Shirik | to be honest I never actually downloaded it, I wouldn't know |
| 14:41.12 | Fin | using WoWI for personal porn trades! |
| 14:41.27 | Shirik | but considering it's only 22 bytes, that would be some pretty low-quality porn |
| 14:41.36 | Fin | save it for the FBI, buddy! |
| 14:42.35 | Wobin | hehe |
| 14:42.36 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3U0udLH974 |
| 14:42.39 | Wobin | talking cats =) |
| 14:42.49 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hS4ZTv9sjM&feature=related |
| 14:42.52 | Wobin | and the 'translation' |
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| 14:46.10 | Shirik | Is it over the top to put on my "Resistance is not futile, it's voltage divided by current" shirt for the IEEE meeting today? |
| 14:47.30 | Cide | NO |
| 14:47.53 | Wobin | Is this a rhetoric question? |
| 14:47.54 | malreth | assert your alpha male nerd status |
| 14:49.51 | krka | 22 bytes? you can fit 176 naughty bits in that! |
| 14:49.56 | Fin | End... how long have you been using your nick? is your character called End as well? |
| 14:50.18 | Fin | Shirik: heh, I read that as "Resilience is not futile..." :) |
| 14:50.34 | Maldivia | 22 bytes... that's 44 nipples... |
| 14:50.35 | Fin | bad, wicked bits |
| 14:51.23 | Fin | form of: stack trace! |
| 14:52.16 | End | Fin: no, my char is not called End |
| 14:52.25 | End | but I've been using this nick for a while in general |
| 14:52.48 | Fin | I just realised the similarity, is all |
| 14:52.55 | Fin | and I thought MAYBE YOU WERE STALKING ME! |
| 14:53.23 | End | heh |
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| 14:53.30 | Fin | damn you, fusefs, damn you to hell! |
| 14:53.50 | End | 07:53 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Nickname: End << ONLINE >> |
| 14:53.50 | End | 07:53 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Registered: 3 years 22 weeks 5 days (11h 23m 19s) ago |
| 14:54.09 | Industrial | omagad |
| 14:54.10 | End | 07:53 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Nickname: Fin << ONLINE >> |
| 14:54.10 | End | 07:53 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Registered: 1 year 2 weeks 3 days (0h 21m 39s) ago |
| 14:54.11 | Fin | my my |
| 14:54.13 | End | :P |
| 14:54.16 | Industrial | tpb 503 :< |
| 14:54.25 | Fin | yes, well, I thought Freenode was a bunch of wank for a long time |
| 14:54.34 | Fin | mostly because of the guy that started it |
| 14:54.48 | End | I think a lot of people got that impression |
| 14:55.00 | End | I didn't concern myself much with who was running it though |
| 14:55.02 | Fin | maybe because it was true? at least the bit about him being a wanker |
| 14:55.16 | Fin | I don't like supporting things run by people I have no respect for |
| 14:55.24 | Fin | each to their own :) |
| 14:55.43 | Fin | he died or something, didn't he? |
| 14:55.52 | End | yes |
| 14:56.06 | Fin | it wasn't me! |
| 14:56.18 | Shirik | oh yeah, well NickServ says I have 14 linked names! |
| 14:56.20 | Shirik | Beat that! |
| 14:56.44 | End | I have 6 apparently |
| 14:56.47 | Shirik | ~beatbox |
| 14:56.53 | Shirik | hm, we need to add that |
| 14:57.00 | End | although, if they ever do that base nickname thing, it won't matter :P |
| 14:57.15 | Shirik | Yeah that's all mine are :P |
| 14:57.18 | Shirik | things like |
| 14:57.25 | Shirik | (09:55:19) -› [notice from NickServ]: 9) Shirik|zZz |
| 14:57.26 | End | it'll basically make it so you own any nick that has a certain type of suffix |
| 14:57.29 | End | yea |
| 14:57.30 | Shirik | (09:55:19) -› [notice from NickServ]: 12) Shirik|AFK |
| 14:57.33 | Shirik | I do have a few others |
| 14:57.38 | Shirik | (09:55:19) -› [notice from NickServ]: 13) Kimina|AFK |
| 14:57.38 | Shirik | (09:55:19) -› [notice from NickServ]: 14) Kimina |
| 14:58.05 | Shirik | Anyway I must be gone |
| 15:01.50 | wereHamster | 14 nicks and you choose '|AFK', show us the other ones ;) |
| 15:03.02 | End | nuts, his nickname is private too :P |
| 15:04.18 | Fin | so private NOT EVEN HE KNOWS WHAT IT IS ANYMORE |
| 15:06.01 | Fin | nickname? WHAT NICKNAME? - exactly. |
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| 15:39.53 | Shirik | what is a "channel CTCP" ? |
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| 15:40.42 | zenzelezz | I imagine it's doing /ctcp #channelname SOMECTCPCOMMAND |
| 15:41.19 | Shirik | OMG |
| 15:41.21 | Shirik | never doing that again |
| 15:41.28 | zenzelezz | you didn't know you could do that? |
| 15:41.38 | Shirik | no >< |
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| 15:42.10 | Lopeppeppy | Good morning, zenzelezz! Nice to see you too. |
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| 15:42.44 | Shirik | that was very painful |
| 15:43.13 | Lopeppeppy | Class? |
| 15:43.29 | Shirik | no |
| 15:43.34 | cladhaire | yay for moving day! |
| 15:43.39 | Shirik | I discovered channel ctcps |
| 15:43.58 | Fin | cladhaire: did you catch the pastey link earlier, btw? |
| 15:44.03 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/bshit/wow_fani.jpg |
| 15:44.12 | cladhaire | no, can you shoot me an email? |
| 15:44.41 | Fin | certainly can |
| 15:44.46 | Fin | what at where? |
| 15:44.49 | Lopeppeppy | Huzzah, cladhaire. I hope your packets run free and avoid all black holes from here on out. |
| 15:44.59 | cladhaire | mee too |
| 15:45.06 | cladhaire | fin: gmail |
| 15:45.14 | cladhaire | Fin: yep |
| 15:45.17 | Fin | kk |
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| 15:47.09 | Shirik | Grrr, school removed my access to the RT lab |
| 15:47.17 | Shirik | so now I have to fill out another 10 papers to get it back |
| 15:47.27 | ralfWORK | hrm so here's a stupid question |
| 15:47.31 | Shirik | our security guys are as evil as our IT guys |
| 15:47.45 | ralfWORK | is there a standard attack speed that raid bosses have? |
| 15:48.17 | Shirik | all raid bosses have an attack speed but as far as I'm aware it's not constant across all bosses |
| 15:48.31 | ralfWORK | hmm ok |
| 15:48.56 | ralfWORK | would be interesting to see that on some of the wowwiki pages. iirc, that information is not on there |
| 15:51.01 | Polarina | Shirik: RT lab? |
| 15:51.06 | Shirik | realtime |
| 15:51.19 | Polarina | What's a realtime lab? |
| 15:51.48 | Lopeppeppy | raflWORK, if you can find/derive the info, edit up the wiki pages! That's what's fun about it, I guess. |
| 15:51.56 | Shirik | A lab with about 10 ARCOM boxes each with their own copy of VxWorks on them |
| 15:52.24 | Polarina | Shirik: Why did they remove your access to them? |
| 15:52.42 | Shirik | because it's a restricted area and I assume they remove everyone's access after each semester |
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| 15:53.27 | ralfWORK | Lopeppeppy: ya, I'd think maybe there would be an update to the templates though |
| 15:53.30 | ralfWORK | I dunno |
| 15:54.22 | Polarina | Shirik: Ah.. I see. I though that they though that you were trying to crack a program or something when your application did a segmentation fault. :P |
| 15:54.43 | Shirik | no I can easily do that from any of the computers on the network |
| 15:58.45 | Polarina | All addons that assume that a mob will not give experience if UnitIsTrivial() returns true sucks! |
| 15:59.22 | wereHamster | UnitIsTrivial() == grey mob? |
| 16:00.00 | Polarina | wereHamster: Yes, but that doesn't tell you for certain if you get experience or not. Same for honour points. |
| 16:00.24 | wereHamster | whih grey mobs give xp? |
| 16:00.26 | haste | uhm, when do you get experience from a gray mob? |
| 16:00.59 | Polarina | wereHamster: All can under sertain circumstances. |
| 16:01.07 | Polarina | s/sertain/certain/ |
| 16:01.17 | clad|away | ? |
| 16:01.32 | Polarina | clad|away: ? |
| 16:01.53 | haste | I want to hear more about these circumstances! |
| 16:01.55 | wereHamster | under which circumstances? |
| 16:02.13 | wereHamster | I want to make XP off of lvl 1 mobs ;) |
| 16:02.46 | clad|away | i've never gotten honor from a grey pc, and can't recall ever getting experience from a grey mob |
| 16:02.59 | haste | maybe.. if you are completly smashed |
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| 16:03.01 | Polarina | haste, wereHamster, clad|away: Drunkness level. When you are drunk, mobs appear as lower level than they actually are, and the API, including that function, takes that into account. |
| 16:03.06 | haste | that's the only circumstance I can think of |
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| 16:03.41 | clad|away | okay, makes sense |
| 16:03.49 | clad|away | you could have just said that :P |
| 16:03.53 | Polarina | So UnitIsTrivial() can return true even if the mob really isn't trivial. |
| 16:04.16 | Polarina | clad|away: I assumed I didn't need to. |
| 16:04.19 | clad|away | no, the mob is still trivial |
| 16:04.22 | clad|away | that's the point |
| 16:04.30 | clad|away | however, they will be colored as if they aren't trivial in the UI |
| 16:04.37 | clad|away | important distinction |
| 16:04.46 | Polarina | clad|away: Opposite. |
| 16:04.58 | Polarina | clad|away: When you are drunk, mobs appear as *lower* level than they are. |
| 16:05.30 | clad|away | yeah, i was mixed up |
| 16:06.46 | Polarina | There's basically no reliable way to see if a mob will give experience or not unless you monitor the drunkness level and take that into account... |
| 16:07.12 | clad|away | can't say I consider that an issue |
| 16:07.13 | clad|away | *shrug* |
| 16:07.16 | clad|away | off to the store |
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| 16:16.12 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh, sneaky cogwheel! *grin* |
| 16:16.34 | cogwheel | hmm... |
| 16:16.38 | cogwheel | ~lart Tuesday |
| 16:16.38 | purl | smacks Tuesday up side the head with a clue-by-4 |
| 16:17.31 | End | cogwheel: it's when they try to make your wife an mvp, you know something is wrong :P |
| 16:17.41 | Lopeppeppy | *chuckle* |
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| 16:18.44 | cogwheel | End: I think the only time she's posted was in the Cogwheel for MVP thread :P |
| 16:18.52 | End | lol |
| 16:18.57 | cogwheel | oh and once when she was looking for a guild on our new realm |
| 16:19.40 | Lopeppeppy | Most WoW players never even visit the forums, I'm totally surprised I ever found them myself. |
| 16:20.01 | Shirik|Ecole | Long ago I vowed never to use the WoW forums |
| 16:20.04 | Shirik|Ecole | a lot of good that did me. |
| 16:20.18 | ag` | reading blues can get you some info |
| 16:20.57 | Lopeppeppy | It can also cause you havok... *remembers the AV queue mods threads of the last few weekends* |
| 16:21.14 | End | I spent -a lot- of time on my realm forums at one point, but then I cut back drastically |
| 16:21.23 | End | now I mostly lurk |
| 16:22.41 | Lopeppeppy | I only lurk at the UI space. My realm is a bunch of prissy drama queens, why bother? |
| 16:23.40 | cogwheel | My old realm used to have the best. forums. evar. |
| 16:23.57 | zenzelezz | then the players discovered it |
| 16:24.03 | End | heheheh |
| 16:24.05 | cogwheel | something like that |
| 16:24.06 | cogwheel | yeah |
| 16:24.14 | Lopeppeppy | Once upon a time I did enjoy the AD forums... but as the server grows up, it goes through teenage angst. Right now it's in the pimples and puberty stage, it's just annoying. |
| 16:24.21 | cogwheel | malreth: <3 |
| 16:24.38 | cogwheel | Bela|work: who do i blame for wdnaddons' downness? ;) |
| 16:25.00 | zenzelezz | my realm's forum has been so bad that at one time one of the main CMs had to step in and (in slightly less harsh words) tell the people to fuck off and stop being such retards to the normal moderators |
| 16:25.18 | cogwheel | O.o |
| 16:25.20 | End | cogwheel: it looks like its up to me |
| 16:26.11 | End | we had a CM say something in my realm's forum once, which was completely counter-productive to what the CM was trying to do |
| 16:26.26 | End | who needs 100 threads saying hey eyonix? |
| 16:27.16 | zenzelezz | basically my realm's forum was a mess of drama and flaming, one moderator (Vaneras I think it was) did his job locking threads and cleaning up, and spawned 10+ "WTF Vaneras!?!?!" threads |
| 16:27.32 | End | heh |
| 16:27.38 | cogwheel | anyone know how to give purl permission to enter a channel? |
| 16:27.52 | zenzelezz | not sure if anyone got the suspend/ban bat, but Thundgot got quite angry at the situation |
| 16:28.23 | End | cogwheel: try +chan #yourchannelhere |
| 16:28.31 | End | at least that's what purl's help says :P |
| 16:28.37 | End | l2h |
| 16:28.41 | End | (learn2help) |
| 16:29.01 | cogwheel | End: tried that |
| 16:29.13 | End | hrm |
| 16:29.18 | End | fine! |
| 16:29.29 | End | thought I could catch you not reading the help! |
| 16:29.32 | End | but apparently not! |
| 16:29.33 | End | ;-P |
| 16:29.37 | cogwheel | NEVAH! |
| 16:29.39 | cogwheel | :P |
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| 16:29.49 | cogwheel | (at least not without a disclaimer :P) |
| 16:30.28 | End | hmm |
| 16:30.35 | End | I told purl to join a channel |
| 16:30.39 | End | and now purl won't talk to me |
| 16:30.48 | End | ah, nvm, there we go |
| 16:31.02 | cogwheel | tried /inviting her and telling her to join |
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| 16:31.10 | Lopeppeppy | It just took her a while to settle in, End. |
| 16:31.17 | End | you may need to whatshisfacerikers |
| 16:31.31 | End | Lopeppeppy: I still haven't gotten her to join the channel |
| 16:31.36 | End | just to talk to me :P |
| 16:32.15 | Lopeppeppy | Well.... at least she's talking to you, there's a chance that she'll date you in your private sexah channel. |
| 16:32.21 | End | lol |
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| 16:32.46 | Lopeppeppy | You have to take baby steps, End. |
| 16:33.57 | End | great, I don't even know purl's owner's nick |
| 16:34.01 | End | I know his name though! |
| 16:34.13 | End | but not the nick :( |
| 16:34.26 | Lopeppeppy | I heard it once, End, but I don't remember anymore, sorry. |
| 16:34.30 | End | olh |
| 16:34.34 | End | TimRiker |
| 16:34.35 | End | I'm dumb |
| 16:34.55 | End | his domain is rikers.org, so I thought his last name was Rikers, but it's not |
| 16:34.58 | End | it's Riker |
| 16:35.36 | End | cogwheel: anyways, you may need to talk to TimRiker |
| 16:36.00 | cogwheel | hmm... kk |
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| 16:49.46 | malreth | gah... MWSF keynote day means all news web sites are useless |
| 16:50.06 | malreth | it's like the interblag is holding its collective breath in anticipation |
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| 16:51.58 | malreth | nooooooooooooooo... |
| 16:52.01 | Valaron|Work | A smurf! |
| 16:53.15 | Lopeppeppy | You caught me celebrating my 50th birthday! |
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| 16:55.39 | Maldivia | and if you hold your breath long enough, you stop aging! |
| 16:58.22 | Lopeppeppy | Izzat a fact? |
| 16:59.04 | malreth | if you wear a bedsheet like a cape and jump off a really high place... you can fly! |
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| 17:03.27 | cogwheel | Maldivia: you stop aging as in birthdays but you start aging as in meat |
| 17:03.52 | cogwheel | mmm... aged beef |
| 17:03.53 | MentalPower | anyone know of a freenode channel with keynote coverage? |
| 17:04.02 | MentalPower | or any IRC channel for that matter? |
| 17:04.32 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm... Cogwheel, don't make me hungry. I have cheesy broccoli rice for lunch, no meat. I'm feeling deprived. |
| 17:06.55 | malreth | arstechnica has a channel going but it caps at 1200 people |
| 17:07.08 | malreth | i'm following on twitter |
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| 17:08.50 | malreth | irc.arstechnica.com channel #mwsf |
| 17:09.18 | malreth | and turn off join/leave notices ZOMG!!! |
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| 17:20.55 | malreth | the twitter feed... it does nothing! |
| 17:22.15 | malreth | i'm just gonna follow along refreshing the various live coverage web pages |
| 17:22.32 | MentalPower | most of them be dead |
| 17:22.59 | MentalPower | or at least, not updating as frequently |
| 17:23.10 | dylanm | I always use macrumorslive.com |
| 17:23.16 | dylanm | Doing well so far |
| 17:23.25 | malreth | http://live.applematters.com/ |
| 17:23.35 | clad|away | when's the keynote start? |
| 17:23.40 | clad|away | i'm all mixed up being on this timezone :P |
| 17:23.43 | malreth | 20 minutes ago |
| 17:23.46 | clad|away | zomg |
| 17:23.58 | malreth | lol |
| 17:24.09 | Lopeppeppy | My IT people are sitting on that conference like nobody's business, see what models and new toys come to play. |
| 17:24.34 | MentalPower | irc://irc.arstechnica.com/MWSF |
| 17:24.40 | malreth | we're all drinking the same kool-aid |
| 17:25.36 | clad|away | Time Capsule is so ridiculous |
| 17:25.44 | clad|away | I can't wait for it. |
| 17:25.48 | clad|away | I'll buy it the second its available. |
| 17:26.02 | malreth | yeah... it had all the earmarks of something that people would lap up |
| 17:26.18 | dylanm | I love the kool-aid. The kool-aid is delicious. |
| 17:26.19 | clad|away | airport extreme (802.11n) with a 1TB hard drive for $500? |
| 17:26.27 | clad|away | i wanted to buy the airport extreme anyway |
| 17:26.32 | clad|away | thats worth taking a student loan out over |
| 17:26.41 | dylanm | clad|away: Damn right. |
| 17:26.47 | malreth | nooo |
| 17:26.54 | malreth | don't do it. debt = ebil |
| 17:27.25 | clad|away | malreth: All said, I'll have taken out less than $20,000 in loans, and I will have gotten my PhD from Oxford, with not a cent of debt above and beyond. |
| 17:27.30 | clad|away | As I said, it's worth it. |
| 17:28.06 | cogwheel | debt ~= evil |
| 17:28.25 | clad|away | indeed, especially not when its primarily stafford debt |
| 17:28.29 | cogwheel | stupid person with debt is stupid |
| 17:28.30 | clad|away | where the interest rate is behind inflation :P |
| 17:28.32 | malreth | clad|away: ok... that's actually pretty good |
| 17:28.36 | cogwheel | but it's not the debt's fault :P |
| 17:28.38 | clad|away | i could put the money in a bank account and make money off it. |
| 17:29.15 | clad|away | yay my irc bot seems to work pretty well |
| 17:29.24 | clad|away | I finally got the separation or core/modules that I wanted |
| 17:29.46 | clad|away | will be able to handle lua sandboxing without needing to use any lua thread/multitask library |
| 17:30.23 | clad|away | i didn't know MentalPower drank the kool-aid too |
| 17:30.38 | MentalPower | I don't have a mac if thats what you're asking |
| 17:30.46 | MentalPower | but I do like macs |
| 17:30.49 | clad|away | i'm not |
| 17:31.06 | clad|away | 480 packets transmitted, 479 packets received, 0% packet loss |
| 17:31.07 | clad|away | round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 26.292/32.632/266.694/20.627 ms |
| 17:31.12 | clad|away | that is a GORGEOUS thing |
| 17:31.36 | clad|away | uhh why? |
| 17:31.45 | malreth | hate makes you strong |
| 17:31.53 | nevcairiel | that 0% is a lie |
| 17:32.02 | nevcairiel | 480 != 479 |
| 17:32.03 | clad|away | yes, that is true |
| 17:32.05 | clad|away | but its a good lie |
| 17:32.11 | clad|away | because 0% != 45% |
| 17:32.15 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 17:32.17 | clad|away | which is what i've had for the past month |
| 17:32.21 | clad|away | I like their math |
| 17:32.26 | MentalPower | because of the ping times |
| 17:32.29 | Lopeppeppy | I like the "no more black holes" thing. |
| 17:32.39 | MentalPower | I don't get that ping to my ISP |
| 17:32.40 | clad|away | thats to google.co.uk |
| 17:32.43 | nevcairiel | 100% != 45% too, and thats easy to achieve /me gets the scissors |
| 17:33.10 | clad|away | lol |
| 17:33.18 | nevcairiel | why does your college network suck like that anyway? |
| 17:33.23 | nevcairiel | I can understand blocking stuff |
| 17:33.25 | nevcairiel | but packet loss? |
| 17:33.33 | clad|away | no they're idiots |
| 17:33.35 | clad|away | its not intentinoal |
| 17:33.39 | clad|away | they have no idea its happening to |
| 17:33.40 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 17:35.04 | nevcairiel | and i would expect that there should be someone around who actually knows about that stuff .. on a college =P |
| 17:35.18 | MentalPower | eek! |
| 17:35.20 | Lopeppeppy | What's a college? |
| 17:35.35 | MentalPower | $20 for a software upgrade on the iPod Touch |
| 17:35.42 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 17:36.04 | nevcairiel | i got linux firmware on my iPod, ftw :) |
| 17:36.45 | nevcairiel | granted its no touch :P |
| 17:36.48 | clad|away | nevcairiel: whats it running? |
| 17:36.52 | malreth | interesting that the firmware update is free for the iphone but costs $$ for the touch |
| 17:36.52 | clad|away | oh |
| 17:36.57 | clad|away | nevermind |
| 17:37.14 | clad|away | malreth: very, my boyfriend won't be happy to hear it |
| 17:37.17 | nevcairiel | its a normal 40gb video iPod |
| 17:37.22 | clad|away | i just bought a nano, and i'm very happy with it |
| 17:37.23 | nevcairiel | running the rockbox firmware |
| 17:37.28 | clad|away | and glad I didn't go with the touch |
| 17:37.46 | malreth | i agree with applematters.com... it's going to be the WTF rant for the next few weeks |
| 17:37.48 | clad|away | nevcairiel: rockbox was the answer I was looking for |
| 17:38.21 | malreth | 20 mil songs sold on itunes on xmas day tho... that's insane |
| 17:38.26 | nevcairiel | i hated to use iTunes to put music over |
| 17:38.28 | clad|away | yeah it definitely is |
| 17:38.33 | clad|away | nevcairiel: you can use songbird |
| 17:38.39 | clad|away | I'd buy with itunes, but sync with songbird :P |
| 17:38.41 | nevcairiel | now i can use explorer |
| 17:38.46 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 17:38.46 | malreth | ah... finally movie rentals confirmed |
| 17:38.46 | clad|away | or just suck up and use itunes |
| 17:38.48 | clad|away | nevcairiel: :P |
| 17:39.37 | malreth | they've got every major movie studio on board now |
| 17:39.39 | nevcairiel | I dunno, i dont need all that nifty music database stuff, i just use it as a "normal" mp3 player now, i can copy music directly over, no extra tool involved |
| 17:41.51 | malreth | hrmm... rentals are available 30 days after dvd release... bleh |
| 17:42.24 | malreth | i like that you can transfer the rentals from device to device, tho |
| 17:43.50 | Lopeppeppy | How long does this "rental" last? |
| 17:44.01 | |pez| | .. why are two of the channels I'm in talkig about DVD rentals at the same time >___0 |
| 17:44.19 | malreth | 30 days from when you purchase it but you have 24 hours to watch once you press play |
| 17:44.19 | MentalPower | |pez|: MacWorld keynote |
| 17:44.33 | |pez| | MentalPower: ... ok! |
| 17:44.45 | |pez| | I'll go get the boyfriend from work now. and ignore the whole DVD rentals thing. |
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| 17:45.03 | malreth | it's on par with amazon unbox |
| 17:45.21 | malreth | but they still need to provide HD downloads with surround audio |
| 17:45.41 | malreth | i shut my mouth... |
| 17:45.42 | nevcairiel | mmmm HD AC3 5.1 DVDs .. mmm |
| 17:45.46 | MentalPower | appleTV2 |
| 17:45.53 | malreth | they just announced HD video with 5.1 |
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| 17:46.18 | malreth | ok.. well that trumps unbox |
| 17:46.37 | malreth | and at 3.99 for new releases... that ain't bad |
| 17:46.56 | malreth | oh... flickr integration... finally |
| 17:47.00 | MentalPower | 4.99 for HD |
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| 17:48.04 | Dreagar | Good morning. |
| 17:48.11 | Lopeppeppy | Morning to ye. |
| 17:48.25 | malreth | that's only $1 more than unbox... and you get HD |
| 17:48.31 | Dreagar | how goes good ol maintenance day? |
| 17:48.40 | malreth | no one cares... it's macworld day |
| 17:48.42 | Lopeppeppy | I'm avoiding it by doing unproductive work. |
| 17:48.43 | malreth | HAHAHAH! |
| 17:48.46 | Lopeppeppy | An listening about macworld. |
| 17:49.12 | Dreagar | right on. :D |
| 17:50.02 | malreth | unleashing AppleTV from the desktop computer is a smart move... it should be a standalone box |
| 17:50.18 | malreth | all they need to do is add DVR features to it now |
| 17:50.32 | dylanm | That's really what it needs. |
| 17:50.33 | malreth | if they do... i'm buying one right now |
| 17:50.43 | malreth | well... not right now... but SOON |
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| 17:55.55 | Dreagar | if i wanted to find out when a riposte can happen, what would i look for? a guildie wants an addon that'll pop a msg up ie /RW when he can riposte.. |
| 17:56.11 | malreth | riposte after parry, right? |
| 17:56.30 | Lopeppeppy | Is that not in SCT already? I think so, malreth, I forget (been a while on my rogue) |
| 17:56.36 | Lukian | Dreagar, SCT or Parrot |
| 17:56.46 | Dreagar | i think it's after parry. |
| 17:56.49 | Lukian | There's some other addons too |
| 17:56.55 | Dreagar | i don't have a rogue so i dunno. lol. |
| 17:57.06 | malreth | yeah... nearly any of the scrolling-combat-text addons will have that already built in |
| 17:57.07 | Lukian | search for "visual effects" or such |
| 17:57.13 | Dreagar | cool, i'll check em out. thanks |
| 17:58.52 | MentalPower | oops, tech glitch at macworld |
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| 17:59.56 | Lopeppeppy | Ooops. |
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| 18:00.56 | MentalPower | malreth: its an software update, not a new product |
| 18:01.00 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:01.07 | malreth | yeah... just read that, MentalPower |
| 18:01.15 | malreth | that's actually pretty cool |
| 18:01.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Fortunately for the drinkers, it's really high-quality, freaking awesome kool-aid. |
| 18:01.37 | malreth | rather un-Apple like in a way |
| 18:01.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Charging for a software update? Yeah |
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| 18:02.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Is everyone here reading the endgadget page, or do they have something else? |
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| 18:02.38 | malreth | http://www.macrumorslive.com/ and http://live.applematters.com/ |
| 18:02.46 | MentalPower | irc://irc.arstechnica.com/MWSF |
| 18:03.01 | malreth | the irc channel broke colloquy |
| 18:03.08 | ScytheBlade1 | heh @ IRC |
| 18:03.10 | malreth | too many join/leave notices |
| 18:03.19 | ScytheBlade1 | I'll stick to this nice ajax-y page |
| 18:04.04 | MentalPower | IRC is real-time :) |
| 18:04.07 | malreth | if only apple could have gotten a $199 price point for the apple tv... it'd soar off the shelves |
| 18:04.18 | MentalPower | irc://irc.arstechnica.com/MWSF2 |
| 18:04.28 | Srosh | How do I suppress error messages like "ability not ready" in macros? |
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| 18:05.06 | ScytheBlade1 | The IRC looks dead to me |
| 18:05.09 | malreth | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:05.13 | malreth | i believe |
| 18:05.23 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ what malreth said |
| 18:05.33 | ScytheBlade1 | <chugg> CLints blackberry crashed ^_^ |
| 18:05.34 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 18:05.39 | ScytheBlade1 | That's classy |
| 18:05.47 | malreth | har! |
| 18:06.09 | Srosh | Works, thanks! |
| 18:06.36 | malreth | np |
| 18:09.10 | malreth | confirmation of the iTunes-compatable files on the Family Guy DVD. |
| 18:09.39 | malreth | ah... there's the Macbook Air now |
| 18:09.40 | MentalPower | MacBook Air |
| 18:09.48 | MentalPower | ~lart malreth |
| 18:09.48 | purl | nabs the moon and broadsides malreth with the sea of tranquility |
| 18:09.52 | MentalPower | you're too fast |
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| 18:10.08 | malreth | let's see how frikkin thin this thing is |
| 18:10.57 | ScytheBlade1 | <Clint|irssi> 0.76" to 0.16" |
| 18:10.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Thin |
| 18:11.05 | malreth | snap! |
| 18:11.38 | malreth | that is less than 3/16ths of an inch |
| 18:12.24 | malreth | i guess the new "leaked" photos were right |
| 18:12.26 | ScytheBlade1 | malreth: http://bash.org/?2999 |
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| 18:12.46 | malreth | ~lart ScytheBlade1 |
| 18:12.46 | purl | plops ScytheBlade1 into a giant vat of herring |
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| 18:12.50 | ScytheBlade1 | :) |
| 18:12.56 | ScytheBlade1 | You know I've got a point. |
| 18:13.01 | malreth | yes yes... |
| 18:13.12 | malreth | sometimes, i just want to know how many volkswagons something is |
| 18:13.18 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 18:13.23 | Lopeppeppy | 32. |
| 18:13.24 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 18:15.27 | malreth | there... that's like 0.0016216216 VW Beetles |
| 18:15.35 | malreth | lap it up, suckers |
| 18:17.11 | Pac2722 | hi ppl any1 know how Uncrushable works or if it works ? |
| 18:17.24 | malreth | "How did we fit a Mac in here?" "Well first we created a 5th dimensional pocket, also known as a tesseract..." |
| 18:17.32 | ScytheBlade1 | lol yes @ malreth |
| 18:17.34 | ScytheBlade1 | a haha |
| 18:18.29 | malreth | hmm... they're probably using the same HD that they use in the ipods for the Air |
| 18:18.39 | malreth | Pac2722: Uncrushable? |
| 18:19.10 | nevcairiel | Pac2722: sure it works, just get dodge+miss+parry+block above 100% |
| 18:19.12 | nevcairiel | or 106 even |
| 18:20.02 | malreth | only an 80GB drive, tho... |
| 18:20.05 | Pac2722 | k yer iv had it for like a week & didnt c it move |
| 18:20.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Boo, no ethernet port |
| 18:21.51 | malreth | ScytheBlade1: that was pretty much figured out in the rumors |
| 18:22.37 | MentalPower | no optical drive either |
| 18:22.44 | MentalPower | I can do without ethernet |
| 18:22.49 | ScytheBlade1 | malreth: in some parallel world where I had excess cash to burn, I wouldn't buy that just due to the lack of an ethernet port |
| 18:23.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Wireless is cool and all, but I still don't want to use it as my primary data transfer method |
| 18:23.39 | MentalPower | I do now |
| 18:23.42 | MentalPower | its fast enough |
| 18:23.48 | MentalPower | and reliable enough for most things |
| 18:24.03 | Pac2722 | ScytheBlade1: Wireless is all of got here in australia |
| 18:24.05 | malreth | same here |
| 18:24.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Right up until someone turns on a microwave, or starts copying a DVD over it |
| 18:24.08 | MentalPower | (except updating your router's firmware as I've come to learn the hard way) |
| 18:24.19 | ScytheBlade1 | At which point is goes all to pot |
| 18:24.54 | malreth | ScytheBlade1: it hasn't really been a problem in my experience |
| 18:25.02 | malreth | and i spend nearly the entire day on wireless here at work |
| 18:25.20 | malreth | and i do my time machine backups over wireless as well |
| 18:25.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Painful much? |
| 18:26.07 | ScytheBlade1 | And the whole bit with shared bandwidth can die too. |
| 18:26.21 | malreth | no... it isn't painful |
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| 18:26.46 | malreth | this campus is blanketed in wireless |
| 18:27.23 | malreth | and bandwidth is metered on all the public networks (wired or unwired) so there aren't any crazy bit torrent file transfers or anything like that going on |
| 18:27.46 | MentalPower | bah metered bandwidth |
| 18:28.07 | ScytheBlade1 | malreth: it's really hard to meter the bandwidth that the device puts over the air, though. And that's the problem. |
| 18:28.59 | malreth | generally, that's not a problem. people, more often than not, behave |
| 18:29.11 | ScytheBlade1 | I should have been specific |
| 18:29.58 | ScytheBlade1 | That's a problem for me, because I have a habit of streaming FLAC audio every waking hour of the day, and every so often wind up with 30GB downloaded in a few hours |
| 18:30.38 | MentalPower | my univ does not meter BW |
| 18:30.49 | MentalPower | they have fat pipes |
| 18:31.12 | malreth | we have fat pipes... we also have like 40 thousand freshmen |
| 18:31.21 | malreth | or something like that |
| 18:31.42 | MentalPower | www.iastate.edu |
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| 18:32.10 | malreth | ok... there's gotta be a better OMT than Randy Newman |
| 18:32.18 | MentalPower | we even run two other state univ and the state's governmental internet if their links go down |
| 18:34.21 | malreth | poor mac mini... neglected again |
| 18:39.35 | sdouble | wait a second, iastate? |
| 18:40.17 | sdouble | MentalPower, you live in iowa? |
| 18:40.29 | MentalPower | I used to, why? |
| 18:40.54 | sdouble | seems crazy, in #norganna, I've seen mattbnr lives in tama, ia |
| 18:41.01 | sdouble | and i live in ankeny, ia |
| 18:41.19 | sdouble | normally i don't run into many people in iowa, now 3 in the same channel? |
| 18:41.34 | MentalPower | lol |
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| 18:46.03 | malreth | yeah... i'm curious about it... the warranty on this laptop expires in 6 months and i wouldn't mind a more compact machine |
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| 18:46.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Then you look at the SSD option |
| 18:46.24 | ScytheBlade1 | ... $3098 |
| 18:47.20 | malreth | SSD is like a whopper with cheese. more expensive but worth it. |
| 18:48.08 | sdouble | I just ate a whopper jr with cheese |
| 18:48.17 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCategory.aspx?SubCategory=636&name=Solid-State-Disks |
| 18:48.25 | ScytheBlade1 | But they're not $1k expensive to be "worth it" |
| 18:49.08 | sdouble | nice, 128gb for $3,219.99 |
| 18:50.27 | KarlThePagan | that's a little wrong heh |
| 18:50.42 | KarlThePagan | i guess for 128gb actual drive |
| 18:51.09 | malreth | a 2.5" 64 GB SSD runs $1533 |
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| 18:51.31 | malreth | the one in the MBA is probably a 1.8" though |
| 18:51.43 | ScytheBlade1 | It is |
| 18:53.01 | sdouble | 2.5" 128gb for $3,219.99 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820609245 |
| 18:53.38 | sdouble | plus a little more for shippin |
| 18:53.39 | sdouble | g |
| 18:57.05 | KarlThePagan | well I'm not real worried about SSD yet |
| 18:57.34 | sdouble | at prices liek that, no one should be |
| 18:57.42 | KarlThePagan | thruput rates too |
| 19:00.37 | malreth | the flip down door on the MBA shows that one patent that apple had about compact folding ports |
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| 19:12.02 | malreth | apparently you can reinstall the OS over wireless on the MBA |
| 19:12.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, that's new |
| 19:14.08 | malreth | i guess they have wireless support in the EFI bootloader |
| 19:14.17 | ScytheBlade1 | lolwin @ slashdot tag "doesitblend" on the macbook air article |
| 19:14.26 | malreth | ha! |
| 19:14.36 | malreth | it wouldn't fit! |
| 19:14.39 | cladhaire | so apparently my BT problem is that it shuts down at 6:00pm every night |
| 19:14.54 | Thrae | BitTorrent? |
| 19:15.02 | cladhaire | no, BritishTelcomm |
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| 19:16.17 | kamdis | Sounds like Comcast here, cladhaire |
| 19:16.20 | Thrae | OK, off to work. Bleh. At least now I know about ircatwork.com. |
| 19:20.07 | sdouble | that is terrible, thanks Thrae |
| 19:20.28 | Thrae | sdouble: Terrible? |
| 19:20.43 | sdouble | yeah, now the chances of me getting work accomplished have gone down |
| 19:20.47 | Thrae | Haha |
| 19:21.02 | Lunessa | ... station |
| 19:21.04 | Thrae | I have a good bit of multitasking I can do at work, hence the want of IRC |
| 19:24.44 | Thunder_Child | you know, i think they made the macbook air so light soe everyone would break theirs and have to get a new one |
| 19:25.02 | |Jelly| | I'm still o.O about no optical drive. |
| 19:25.12 | Thunder_Child | not really needed |
| 19:25.26 | Thunder_Child | stream from a desktop |
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| 19:25.49 | Thunder_Child | or from another laptop with a drive |
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| 19:26.30 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 19:26.37 | ScytheBlade1 | ... hhaha, awesome |
| 19:26.43 | |Jelly| | No thanks. :-\ |
| 19:26.52 | ScytheBlade1 | So incgamers couldn't figure out how to secure their download server |
| 19:26.58 | ScytheBlade1 | So they bought another just for UI Central |
| 19:27.07 | Bela|work | its a nice travel laptop, but at that price I don't want one just for travel |
| 19:27.27 | malreth | i might get my employer to buy one for me. |
| 19:27.36 | malreth | i can justify it if i don't have to pay for it. :D |
| 19:27.37 | Thunder_Child | or you could bring along an external drive, but 10-1 says that someone will come out with a wireless optical drive within a month |
| 19:27.55 | Thunder_Child | s/drive/optical drive/ |
| 19:27.58 | malreth | bluetooth optical drive |
| 19:28.09 | Lunessa | malreth: make them get you two, and slip me one under the table. |
| 19:28.14 | Bela|work | can you store files on time capsule? |
| 19:28.18 | Bela|work | other than backups |
| 19:28.24 | malreth | good question |
| 19:28.33 | Bela|work | that would be nice for the macbook air |
| 19:28.52 | zenzelezz | USB memory thingies are cheap and large these days, I assume you could fit the OS install onto one and just boot from the USB thing |
| 19:29.18 | Thunder_Child | Wireless drive sharing |
| 19:30.01 | Thunder_Child | Wireless Icon |
| 19:30.01 | Thunder_Child | Time Capsule also works great as a wireless hard drive whether you have a Mac or PC. It sets up in a snap, giving you a networked hard drive you can use for storing and sharing any kinds of files. |
| 19:30.01 | Bela|work | I think this is the first time I have intentionally wiped my iphone clean before a firmware update lol |
| 19:30.01 | Lunessa | I don't know... Mac OS X 10.5 was a very full DVD - so you'd need a 4gig USB drive. Which still aren't /cheap/. |
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| 19:30.02 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa $50 or so |
| 19:30.04 | malreth | Lunessa: you re/install the OS over wireless |
| 19:30.15 | |Jelly| | Was it DL-DVD? |
| 19:30.18 | malreth | it is |
| 19:30.21 | Thunder_Child | "Time Capsule works flawlessly with Apple TV, iPhone, iPod touch, and all your other Wi-Fi devices that use the 802.11a/b/g and 802.11n draft 2.0 wireless standards.2" |
| 19:30.26 | malreth | over 8 gb in size |
| 19:30.29 | Bela|work | or you could just buy a cheap hard drive enclosure with usb support |
| 19:30.56 | Lunessa | I have an 80g firewire drive ... it's bootable, so that would work well. |
| 19:31.03 | malreth | no FW port |
| 19:31.04 | zenzelezz | why is MacOS X that huge? o_O |
| 19:31.14 | Bela|work | cause it roxxors your boxxors |
| 19:31.20 | malreth | zenzelezz: it includes the OS plus the development tools and documentation |
| 19:31.21 | zenzelezz | that's no excuse |
| 19:31.36 | zenzelezz | malreth's is closer |
| 19:32.03 | zenzelezz | I'd expect a pretty solid development suite and documentation (VS+MSDN equivalent) at that size still |
| 19:32.10 | malreth | it is |
| 19:32.10 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, no firewire port on the air |
| 19:32.24 | Thunder_Child | only usb |
| 19:32.41 | zenzelezz | maybe I could talk my workplace into getting me one when I need an upgrade then, sounds interesting to try |
| 19:32.52 | Thunder_Child | or malreth could say that already |
| 19:32.54 | Thunder_Child | >< |
| 19:33.09 | malreth | Thunder_Child: at least you didn't typo it |
| 19:33.20 | Thunder_Child | an accident |
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| 19:34.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Who wants to hear something funny? |
| 19:34.33 | Lunessa | I'm pretty happy with it right now, and I'm still discovering features. Time Machine is going to rock my world. |
| 19:35.04 | malreth | TM is probably the single greatest user feature in 10.5 |
| 19:35.32 | malreth | you only have to experience HD failure once and have it save you to understand just how great it is |
| 19:35.56 | Thunder_Child | |Jelly|, http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?nplm=MB397G/A |
| 19:36.35 | malreth | it's a shame apple didn't make the Air superdrive wireless |
| 19:36.48 | Thunder_Child | no kidding |
| 19:37.28 | malreth | give it a lithium ion battery and use the same magsafe power connector |
| 19:37.35 | malreth | BT 2.0+ EDR |
| 19:37.52 | malreth | pray that the battery lasts long enough to watch one movie |
| 19:38.00 | Lunessa | haha |
| 19:38.22 | Thunder_Child | i would prefer wifi to BT |
| 19:38.49 | Lunessa | either tech still has very large power requirements. |
| 19:38.58 | Thunder_Child | true |
| 19:39.21 | Thunder_Child | so stick stick a battery on it |
| 19:39.30 | Thunder_Child | s/sitck// |
| 19:39.48 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Thunder_Child |
| 19:39.48 | purl | drops a humongous exploding nuke on Thunder_Child |
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| 19:42.05 | malreth | mmm... teriyaki beef calls to me... later! |
| 19:43.00 | Lunessa | http://xkcd.com/370/ |
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| 19:45.26 | kergoth | Lunessa: hehe, i like hte last panel of that |
| 19:45.35 | Lunessa | Me too. |
| 19:45.56 | Lunessa | Riddles - the 2 bit encryption of ancient times. |
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| 19:51.24 | Bela|work | well the psuedoGPS feature on the iPhone works |
| 19:51.46 | Bela|work | its not exact, but it got me within 5 miles of wher eI actually am |
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| 19:52.19 | malreth | boo... only chicken and tofu today |
| 19:52.49 | nevcairiel | 5 miles? wow, any good brain can tell you that *shrug |
| 19:53.04 | Kaso | Well its pretty impressive given its going just on cell tower info |
| 19:53.17 | Bela|work | not sure what you mean by that nevcairiel |
| 19:53.38 | nevcairiel | that i know without my phone where i am, in a 5 mile radius at least :P |
| 19:53.58 | Kaso | Anyone know a good download restarter type program? Getright is too bloated these days |
| 19:54.03 | Shirik | GPS is designed to be accurate within 15 feet tbh. Or is it not a GPS? |
| 19:54.16 | Bela|work | well yeah |
| 19:54.22 | ScytheBlade1 | GPS can be a lot more accurate than that |
| 19:54.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Note: can |
| 19:54.26 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: Guaranteed. |
| 19:54.27 | Bela|work | the idea is you can use it when you DON'T know where you are |
| 19:54.40 | ScytheBlade1 | I mean accurate to within a foot |
| 19:54.41 | Bela|work | and no its not true gps |
| 19:54.46 | Bela|work | it trangulates based on cell towers |
| 19:54.52 | Shirik | Yeah but I mean GPS guarantees accuracy within 15 feet |
| 19:54.57 | Bela|work | and shows your location on google maps |
| 19:55.25 | Shirik | Bela|work: Ah that makes a little more sense |
| 19:55.39 | bleeter | Kaso: wget? :P |
| 19:55.55 | Kaso | something a little more gui'd perhaps |
| 19:56.04 | Shirik | Reget |
| 19:56.08 | malreth | GPS should be accurate under 10 ft |
| 19:56.26 | Shirik | malreth, the specifications call for 15 feet. That's all that's guaranteed. |
| 19:56.39 | nevcairiel | stupid ft |
| 19:56.46 | nevcairiel | speak in metric meters damnit :P |
| 19:56.49 | Shirik | nevcairiel: It was designed by americans, get over it |
| 19:56.59 | bleeter | nevcairiel: there are non-metric meters? |
| 19:57.04 | Shirik | lol |
| 19:57.10 | nevcairiel | i wanted to amphasize it! |
| 19:57.16 | Shirik | amphasize |
| 19:57.36 | nevcairiel | emphasize. man |
| 19:57.51 | MentalPower|Gone | ideally GPS can be accurate to 1cm |
| 19:58.02 | MentalPower|Gone | but that requires some ground-based stations |
| 19:58.07 | nevcairiel | anyway, since GPS is even controlled by the US, i wonder if it still holds the 15ft when the next war is around :P |
| 19:58.34 | MentalPower|Gone | in the US and EU its still accurate, in the middle east it is not |
| 19:58.40 | Kaso | isnt that other gps sat net going to be poping up soon |
| 19:58.55 | Shirik | Why do we need another net? |
| 19:58.59 | MentalPower|Gone | galileo |
| 19:59.06 | Kaso | Eggs in basket problem? |
| 19:59.27 | Shirik | Like seriously we're just flooding the geosync orbit already, soon enough we're going to run out of space |
| 19:59.38 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 20:00.18 | malreth | i wasn't aware that the GPS specs guaranteed any sort of accuracy... |
| 20:00.36 | Shirik | They do, assuming you're appropriately tracking |
| 20:00.39 | bleeter | civilian accuracy is less than military accuracy |
| 20:00.39 | MentalPower|Gone | malreth: they do |
| 20:00.45 | MentalPower|Gone | correct |
| 20:00.48 | malreth | bleeter: that's no longer true |
| 20:01.16 | malreth | the US turned off the Selective Availability |
| 20:01.32 | MentalPower|Gone | malreth: actually it is still true for certain areas |
| 20:02.08 | Bela|work | noooo! modmyifone.com crashed =( |
| 20:02.33 | Bela|work | obviously we know what everyone else wanted to do with their new 1.1.3 firmware |
| 20:02.45 | kd3 | wget <3 |
| 20:02.46 | Thunder_Child | ~scream |
| 20:02.47 | purl | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh!!! |
| 20:02.47 | malreth | http://www.defenselink.mil/releases/release.aspx?releaseid=11335 |
| 20:02.55 | Shirik | oh hey |
| 20:03.03 | Shirik | with WAAS you're supposed to get within 9 ft accuracy |
| 20:03.04 | kd3 | & |
| 20:03.12 | kd3 | isn't mil-spec gps within a few feet? |
| 20:03.23 | kd3 | bah. lag. |
| 20:03.24 | Kaso | malreth they still reserve the right to turn it back on however |
| 20:03.43 | bleeter | 'cept theyve said they won't be putting up more sats with SA |
| 20:03.53 | bleeter | it's easier to DoS GPS in selective areas |
| 20:03.55 | Shirik | kd3: Again, 15 feet guaranteed when tracking properly |
| 20:04.07 | Shirik | Apparently < 3 meters with WAAS |
| 20:04.20 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, "(12:03:57) -› Quit: kd3 (i=kd3@gateway/tor/x-7ea1f061d3bcfff6) (Remote closed the connection)" |
| 20:04.27 | malreth | given that the FAA now uses GPS, i doubt they'll be flipping it back on... there'll be much gnashing of teeth |
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| 20:04.30 | Shirik | die tor |
| 20:04.32 | Shirik | dieeee |
| 20:04.38 | Shirik | (15:03:53) (@Shirik) kd3: Again, 15 feet guaranteed when tracking properly |
| 20:04.38 | Shirik | (15:04:06) (@Shirik) Apparently < 3 meters with WAAS |
| 20:04.59 | Thunder_Child | ~sigh Shirik |
| 20:05.00 | purl | ACTION sighs, rolls its eyes and shakes its head, "Shirik!" |
| 20:05.06 | Shirik | The FAA relies too much on GPS imo |
| 20:05.23 | Thunder_Child | they are changing that |
| 20:05.26 | Shirik | At least they haven't given up ILS though |
| 20:05.29 | Thunder_Child | over 10 years or so |
| 20:09.56 | malreth | damn... Glycerine by Bush is playing and thanks to that Pachabel's Canon rant video that I saw the other day it's all I can think of... |
| 20:10.15 | ralfWORK | I remember when that song came out |
| 20:10.41 | malreth | you were alive in the 1790's? |
| 20:10.49 | ralfWORK | AHHAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 20:10.58 | ralfWORK | Glycerine is what I was refering to :P |
| 20:11.29 | Lunessa | Glyerine by Bush is one of my faorite songs. |
| 20:11.33 | Lunessa | favorite even |
| 20:12.23 | Thunder_Child | yes malreth, i was alive in the 1790's |
| 20:12.34 | ralfWORK | it was mine as well, at the time |
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| 20:16.14 | malreth | i refuse to have Pachelbel's Canon played at my wedding |
| 20:17.14 | malreth | instead.. i think i'll have "Janie's Got a Gun" played |
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| 20:17.36 | Thunder_Child | is janie your fiances name? |
| 20:17.45 | Lunessa | Alcohol by Bare Naked Ladies. |
| 20:18.28 | malreth | Thunder_Child: it's Jane |
| 20:18.45 | Thunder_Child | ...well i suppose.... |
| 20:18.54 | malreth | she hits me if i call her Janie |
| 20:19.42 | Thunder_Child | hah, call her that during..uhh...see what happens |
| 20:19.52 | Lunessa | malreth: I thought she was going to hit me. |
| 20:19.59 | Lunessa | Probably with a brick. |
| 20:20.10 | malreth | Lunessa: i think you understand why I try not to argue with her |
| 20:20.18 | malreth | :D |
| 20:20.22 | Lunessa | Yeah. I noticed. |
| 20:20.42 | malreth | she has a hard time with PoV taking and understanding when she's actually lost a logical argument |
| 20:20.50 | Bela|work | zomg |
| 20:21.07 | Bela|work | they finally got the iphone driver working on 64bit windows |
| 20:21.10 | Bela|work | zomg |
| 20:21.12 | Lunessa | She's a pretty great gril, but debate is not her strength. |
| 20:21.19 | malreth | no... she knows it too |
| 20:21.22 | Kaso | Bela|work, vista only |
| 20:21.29 | Kaso | no luck for me on xp64 |
| 20:21.30 | malreth | she was remarkably civil during that discussion |
| 20:22.05 | Lunessa | I think T was helping to soothe her. |
| 20:23.17 | malreth | usually it goes, Jane: "A B and C are basically the same." Me: "No, here is why A is different from B, why B is different from C, and why A has nothing to do with C." Her: "Right, so they're still essentially the same." Me: "Not quite, hon." Her: "YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND ME!!!" |
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| 20:23.50 | malreth | T loves having discussions with her. He sees it as a challenge. |
| 20:24.05 | Lunessa | Hah... T is a good guy. I bet he's a fuyn drunk. |
| 20:24.33 | malreth | Like the one time she insisted that Judaism, Christianity, and Islam were the same religion... |
| 20:24.40 | malreth | oh man... that one went on for hours... |
| 20:24.49 | Bela|work | Kaso: sorry, I assumed it would be both, but thats good to know |
| 20:25.10 | Kaso | I assumed also, till the installed shouted at me and closed down without doing anything :< |
| 20:25.20 | Kaso | I've only got a touch but its the same thing |
| 20:25.21 | Lunessa | She's been corrupted by heathen Eastern ways - she'll never grasp the fine points of Western Dogmatic religion. |
| 20:25.45 | malreth | "They all have the same god, right? Aren't they all the same?" |
| 20:25.57 | Kody- | Hmm, is WoWWiki not loading for anyone else? |
| 20:26.18 | Kody- | Nevermind, looks like it's just really slow atm |
| 20:32.11 | |Jelly| | Can /petattack take conditionals? |
| 20:33.34 | kd3 | it should |
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| 20:34.37 | |Jelly| | Then what would the macro look like to make it send my pet unless my pet is an imp? |
| 20:35.08 | reqol | if you're checking for a specific buff, it's better to utilize all events that might pertain to you receiving (or lacking) the buff, right? the other option I see is onupdate and that seems like a waste |
| 20:35.10 | kd3 | I'd assume "/pettattack [nopet:imp]" |
| 20:35.52 | [dRaCo] | [nopet=imp], iirc |
| 20:36.54 | End | no, it's a colon |
| 20:37.14 | Kaso | reqol events are usally better but sometimes buff events can be timed oddly, what do you want to do exactly? |
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| 20:37.16 | End | equals sign is only used for /castsequence's reset stuff |
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| 20:37.50 | End | oh |
| 20:37.53 | End | and setting target |
| 20:38.23 | reqol | kaso: I want to see if a paladin has an aura on |
| 20:38.27 | reqol | and then warn him if not. |
| 20:38.29 | kd3 | and target= |
| 20:38.33 | ralfWORK | rofl |
| 20:38.47 | reqol | well |
| 20:38.50 | malreth | The MBA has soldered RAM, no user accessible battery, and no internal speakers |
| 20:38.50 | reqol | the player |
| 20:38.53 | reqol | if he is a paladin, I mean |
| 20:38.54 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:39.00 | reqol | not gonna go interfere with other people's playing |
| 20:39.14 | Kaso | When do you want to check? at a particular time, when he looses his aura? |
| 20:39.15 | kamdis | Maybe it's a bug, |Jelly| |
| 20:39.26 | |Jelly| | Maybe so. |
| 20:39.37 | End | erm |
| 20:39.37 | reqol | I want to check on entering the world, through reload or login, when rezzing, and when he might deactivate it accidentally |
| 20:39.45 | End | is /pettattack a command? |
| 20:39.54 | End | or did you typo that? |
| 20:40.05 | reqol | PLAYER_LOGIN or PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD would work for the first, the rez event would be easy to find as well. |
| 20:40.13 | Kaso | Indeed so |
| 20:40.15 | malreth | try [nopet:Imp] |
| 20:40.22 | kamdis | good call Malreth |
| 20:40.26 | Kaso | then just check in UnitAura or whatever and you're golden |
| 20:41.11 | reqol | alright, thanks : ) |
| 20:41.26 | [dRaCo] | |Jelly|: tried [nopet=imp]? |
| 20:41.36 | [dRaCo] | oh, nvm |
| 20:43.15 | ralfWORK | malreth: oh? no speakers? |
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| 20:45.01 | malreth | ralfWORK: none that i can find in any report or photo |
| 20:45.34 | malreth | well... some are saying a mono speaker so you can hear system alerts at least |
| 20:48.02 | |pez| | Gah, there seems to be no HP service centers in my town. |
| 20:48.47 | malreth | i think it's in the bezel, next to the camera |
| 20:48.59 | malreth | one tiny grill is probably the speaker and the other is the mic |
| 20:49.23 | ralfWORK | hmm. that might kinda suck |
| 20:49.29 | ralfWORK | the other stuff I'm not as worried about |
| 20:50.11 | art3mis | eeeeeeeeeee |
| 20:50.37 | malreth | hinge porn: http://www.engadget.com/photos/apple-macbook-air-first-hands-on/587271/ |
| 20:50.46 | malreth | that's one sexxy hinge |
| 20:51.11 | ralfWORK | hahaha |
| 20:51.19 | malreth | hot curves |
| 20:51.28 | Thunder_Child | did they really have the first hands on though? |
| 20:52.16 | art3mis | thats what it told him |
| 20:52.17 | ralfWORK | I think steve had the first hands on it |
| 20:52.21 | art3mis | "you'rethe first baby" |
| 20:52.46 | malreth | i think they mean it's their first hands-on report with the MBA... not *the* first |
| 20:53.15 | Thunder_Child | sure, you say that now |
| 20:54.07 | malreth | engadget's photos suck... auto-focus... AUTO-FOCUS!!! |
| 20:54.14 | malreth | actually, i think it's camera shake |
| 20:54.28 | malreth | bigger aperture! bigger aperture! |
| 20:54.29 | ralfWORK | yea they must be doing the marcarena while taking pictures |
| 20:57.09 | Bela|work | back later |
| 20:58.35 | malreth | commentary is predictable... 1) Apple releases new product 2) "It's a disposable toy111!@@" everyone crows 3) product sells like candy at a fatties convention |
| 20:58.54 | ralfWORK | heh |
| 20:59.05 | ralfWORK | hint: all technology is disposable |
| 20:59.26 | kd3 | that's why I'm not even surfing the web atm... just screwing around on the forums and the wiki |
| 21:00.19 | malreth | 24 hours after it ships, there'll be unboxing porn and then the inevitable disassembly pics |
| 21:00.44 | malreth | someone will calculate how much it costs to build it |
| 21:00.56 | kd3 | but unboxing porn is fun |
| 21:01.12 | malreth | "journalists" will take it as fact without verification and say that apple is ripping off everyone again with huge margins |
| 21:01.37 | malreth | then the class action lawsuits will begin |
| 21:01.46 | ralfWORK | HAHAHAHAHAH |
| 21:02.29 | ralfWORK | does the mayhem and hysteria come after that? |
| 21:02.32 | End | even if it is true, they forget about the initial R&D costs and what have you |
| 21:02.34 | ralfWORK | and the clawing of faces |
| 21:02.48 | ralfWORK | even if it's true, they forget demand drives price |
| 21:03.17 | ralfWORK | and a whole bunch of other basic economic crap |
| 21:03.27 | ralfWORK | why does it cost that much? because apple can sell it for that much |
| 21:03.31 | ralfWORK | duuurrrr |
| 21:04.38 | malreth | i wonder what ever happened to Dongmei Li |
| 21:04.46 | malreth | the crazy iphone lawsuit lady |
| 21:04.55 | ralfWORK | never heard about that |
| 21:04.58 | ralfWORK | let me guess |
| 21:05.03 | ralfWORK | she was on the phone |
| 21:05.12 | ralfWORK | and someone hit her with a 2x4 |
| 21:05.25 | ralfWORK | the phone glass shattered and left her horribly disfigured |
| 21:05.28 | ralfWORK | so she sued apple |
| 21:05.47 | malreth | no... she filed suit when the price was cut alleging that it prevented her from reselling her 4gb model or something |
| 21:06.17 | malreth | http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/07/09/28/apple_jobs_att_sued_over_iphone_price_cut_rebates.html |
| 21:06.18 | ralfWORK | lol wtf |
| 21:06.30 | ralfWORK | people need to get a life |
| 21:06.35 | ralfWORK | QQ more |
| 21:07.11 | kd3 | ahahaha... "Extortion, although illegal in most real world societies, is not against our Terms of Use." - Blue GM on the CS forum |
| 21:07.26 | ralfWORK | AHAHAHAHAHA |
| 21:07.27 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 21:07.28 | ralfWORK | AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 21:07.28 | ScytheBlade1 | link? |
| 21:07.38 | ralfWORK | CS? |
| 21:07.42 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3881825845&sid=1#6 |
| 21:07.45 | kd3 | customer service |
| 21:07.48 | ralfWORK | oh ok |
| 21:08.01 | ralfWORK | sweet I'm going to extort my ass off tonight then |
| 21:08.25 | art3mis | how is that different from other nights? |
| 21:08.32 | ralfWORK | oh good point |
| 21:08.33 | ralfWORK | :( |
| 21:08.38 | art3mis | or am i getting the meaning of extort wrong |
| 21:08.57 | art3mis | that means to "sell your ass to anyone that makes an offer" right? |
| 21:09.17 | ralfWORK | uhm... that's not the same thing |
| 21:09.26 | malreth | that's a 'booty call' |
| 21:09.31 | art3mis | oh |
| 21:09.32 | ralfWORK | I've been known to do that too though, just not every night |
| 21:09.34 | ralfWORK | just weekends |
| 21:09.51 | kd3 | http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/extortion |
| 21:09.51 | art3mis | neat i gots me an interview for sysadmin at a law school |
| 21:10.09 | art3mis | that sounds like a perfect place to setup bt and warez ftp boxes! |
| 21:10.18 | ralfWORK | ROFL |
| 21:10.45 | Lunessa | Heh. And here's the best part of that scam - I call 5, 10, 15 or 20 friends and we kill the extorters over and over and over oand over and over... |
| 21:11.50 | art3mis | heh mal |
| 21:12.45 | art3mis | actually its a "sorta" joke... one of the people i knew that got raided as part of operation bucaneer in 2001 had a 750gb warez site running out of the bank of america's data center... he wired up the box and hid it in the ceiling |
| 21:13.18 | kd3 | oO; |
| 21:13.45 | ralfWORK | in 2001 I only had a ~300gb warez server :( |
| 21:14.06 | art3mis | and where was this? |
| 21:14.10 | art3mis | whats your real name? |
| 21:14.14 | art3mis | where do you live? |
| 21:14.18 | ralfWORK | :D |
| 21:14.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh |
| 21:14.41 | ScytheBlade1 | I have another IRC network... went there with a group of people I know |
| 21:14.51 | ScytheBlade1 | So I get the new address, channel, join up, and list the channels |
| 21:14.56 | art3mis | scytheblade1 == eagle_1 |
| 21:15.02 | ScytheBlade1 | The biggest channel has ~80 people in it, and they are ALL DCC warez bots |
| 21:15.13 | ralfWORK | those irc nets scare me |
| 21:15.32 | ralfWORK | but they can be pretty useful! |
| 21:15.38 | ScytheBlade1 | 16:15 <NickServ> Total Online : 2 year(s) 267 day(s) 1 hour(s) 59 minute(s) 1 second(s) |
| 21:15.45 | ScytheBlade1 | I've done my time on it, the admins like me ;) |
| 21:16.07 | art3mis | you sent them mom and sister porn didnt you |
| 21:16.25 | ralfWORK | probably sent them some 2girls1cup porn |
| 21:16.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Actually I offered up hardware on T1s in case stuff goes down ;P |
| 21:16.31 | art3mis | mmm sexy |
| 21:16.41 | art3mis | t1's!??! |
| 21:16.45 | art3mis | you're mad man! |
| 21:16.50 | ralfWORK | ok, now I can peeeen some |
| 21:16.59 | ralfWORK | in 2001 my warez server was on 2 DS3s ;) |
| 21:17.10 | ralfWORK | peen peen peen PEEEEEN |
| 21:17.38 | kd3 | geez |
| 21:17.51 | kd3 | I've had access to a T1 for a while but that's about as far as I've gone up the bandwidth hill |
| 21:18.00 | art3mis | i dont understand why people get t1's in this day and age |
| 21:18.15 | art3mis | i mean my home biz cable is 30/5 |
| 21:18.27 | art3mis | which last time i checked destroys a t1 ;) |
| 21:18.46 | ralfWORK | because T1s are still more reliable than teh options |
| 21:18.46 | kd3 | because the highest cable bandwidth where I live is 3/256 |
| 21:18.51 | kd3 | and costs $60/mo |
| 21:18.53 | art3mis | oh |
| 21:19.04 | art3mis | where do you live baffin island? |
| 21:19.17 | ralfWORK | in addition, telcos deal with that crap differently. the T1 teams actually have to know something. the SDSL guys don't have to know anything |
| 21:19.28 | art3mis | kd3 lives and works at the Baffin Island Nickle plant |
| 21:19.32 | kd3 | ~wiki statesboro |
| 21:21.11 | ralfWORK | uhm. k |
| 21:23.36 | art3mis | yeah like i said the Baffin Island Nickle plant |
| 21:23.48 | kd3 | pretty much |
| 21:28.43 | art3mis | hrm |
| 21:28.57 | art3mis | guess i should enable shared public folders on my exchange server |
| 21:30.10 | malreth | cogwheel: i found a web site that documents some remote exploits for mac os x for you |
| 21:30.17 | Thunder_Child | awww..server restart |
| 21:30.24 | cogwheel | oh good :P |
| 21:31.23 | malreth | yeah... so i guess they do exist. :D |
| 21:31.38 | malreth | they're almost always involve quicktime |
| 21:31.48 | malreth | s/'re// |
| 21:32.07 | Thunder_Child | wow, people get even stupider than usual just before a restart |
| 21:34.05 | Thunder_Child | anyone know what the eta is for restarting a server from start to finish?? |
| 21:35.15 | ralfWORK | lol what the hell |
| 21:35.20 | ralfWORK | that depends on the server |
| 21:35.21 | ralfWORK | the hardware |
| 21:35.24 | ralfWORK | the OS |
| 21:35.29 | ralfWORK | the software on it |
| 21:35.36 | malreth | i think he means the WoW game servers specifically |
| 21:35.36 | Thunder_Child | yes, but someone may actually know |
| 21:35.42 | kd3 | it's usually 15-20 minutes if they're doing a quick restart, starting from the "shutdown in 15:00" notice |
| 21:35.43 | ralfWORK | ohhhh |
| 21:36.03 | ralfWORK | <-- retard, sorry :( |
| 21:36.04 | Thunder_Child | so 5 min from the actual shutdown? |
| 21:36.18 | Thunder_Child | hmmm..less than 4 |
| 21:36.26 | Thunder_Child | ~2 min or so |
| 21:37.04 | ralfWORK | 15m before server restart is the best time to be on imho |
| 21:37.21 | ralfWORK | people really do act like the world is coming to an end |
| 21:37.39 | ralfWORK | I've seen people say "100g to the first person who finds me before restart!" |
| 21:37.42 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 21:38.08 | End | is that where you say than and then immediately log out? :P |
| 21:38.12 | End | that* |
| 21:38.15 | ralfWORK | hahahaah |
| 21:38.17 | ralfWORK | good one |
| 21:38.25 | Thunder_Child | sadly the last word on our server was pussy |
| 21:38.33 | malreth | good word |
| 21:38.39 | ralfWORK | nothing wrong with that |
| 21:39.00 | Thunder_Child | rather crude |
| 21:39.09 | ralfWORK | uhm |
| 21:39.16 | ralfWORK | I could say some things cruder than that :P |
| 21:39.25 | Thunder_Child | true, but IRC doesnt count |
| 21:39.33 | ralfWORK | why not? |
| 21:39.48 | ralfWORK | no TOS here? |
| 21:39.49 | Thunder_Child | irc has no rules |
| 21:40.25 | ralfWORK | irc channels do |
| 21:40.34 | ralfWORK | besides |
| 21:40.39 | ralfWORK | he could be talking about a cat! |
| 21:41.01 | End | Cairenn could bring out that kickban hammer if she was so inclined, so yes, there are rules :P |
| 21:41.08 | End | (or any of the other ops here) |
| 21:41.15 | ralfWORK | yea they don't speak much |
| 21:41.19 | ralfWORK | which makes me fear them even more |
| 21:41.23 | End | Shirik speaks plenty! |
| 21:41.34 | ralfWORK | which is why I didn't bury you in a string of profanity 10x cruder than pussy :P |
| 21:45.13 | ralfWORK | I do wish that Blizz was more consistent and less hypocritical about their rules |
| 21:45.22 | ralfWORK | that's all I have a legitimate gripe about though |
| 21:46.22 | Lunessa | HP products make me want to cruse like a sailor. |
| 21:46.52 | ralfWORK | I was sad the day Compaq was bought by them :( |
| 21:47.04 | malreth | "Just above the display is an iSight camera, flanked by two small micro-perforated circles. The one on the left is an ambient light sensor, which lets the MacBook Air automatically adjust the brightness of the display and of the keyboard backlighting. the one on the right is a microphone." |
| 21:47.21 | Lunessa | Me too, since I was up for a job at Compaq that went poof with the merger. |
| 21:47.30 | ralfWORK | ewww that sucks |
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| 21:54.42 | art3mis | what if i dont want it to autoadjust? |
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| 21:55.15 | zenzelezz | cover the sensor with some black tape |
| 21:55.25 | art3mis | heh |
| 21:55.33 | art3mis | this isnt a 78 datsun zen |
| 21:55.45 | kamdis | btw, malreth there in one speaker on the MBA |
| 21:55.48 | zenzelezz | fine, cover the sensor with some dark glue |
| 21:55.52 | kamdis | standard speaker |
| 21:55.54 | art3mis | heh |
| 21:56.23 | malreth | ok... figured there'd be one for system alerts and all that |
| 21:56.42 | kamdis | yeah, but just one |
| 21:56.43 | ralfWORK | how can I play my iTunes on my MBA without a speaker?!@? |
| 21:57.05 | malreth | art3mis: you can disable display and keyboard lighting auto-adjustments... it's in the System Prefs |
| 21:57.31 | kamdis | all I can think of a MWSF time now is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw2nkoGLhrE |
| 21:59.11 | art3mis | meh ill stick with my hackintosh |
| 21:59.14 | malreth | i want the iMicrowave! |
| 21:59.26 | art3mis | i dislilke the idea of not having a cd/dvdrom |
| 21:59.35 | art3mis | i HATED that about the tiny thinkpads |
| 21:59.54 | art3mis | and those things had a cool autofold out fullsized keyboard |
| 21:59.59 | wereHamster | what for a cdrom? (i have such thinkpad) |
| 22:00.17 | art3mis | and a functional mouse instead of a touchpad that is nothing more than a flatten devil |
| 22:00.43 | art3mis | wereHamster: the old X series(late 90s) that were the subcompacts, had external floppy and cdrom |
| 22:00.44 | ralfWORK | teh keyboard is the same size |
| 22:01.04 | ralfWORK | I really don't care if it doesn't have a optical drive |
| 22:01.09 | art3mis | ralfWORK: you missed the word "cool" in there ;P |
| 22:01.22 | wereHamster | my x61 has no builtin cdrom, but I don't need it.. |
| 22:01.23 | ralfWORK | oh sorry |
| 22:01.34 | art3mis | i do consulting |
| 22:01.47 | art3mis | having ac drom is quite important for 90% of my clients |
| 22:01.54 | ralfWORK | I do... |
| 22:02.03 | ralfWORK | nothing that requires that :D |
| 22:02.26 | ralfWORK | I wouldn't expect an optical drive in a sub 3lb laptop |
| 22:02.38 | ralfWORK | but I would expect a 2nd speaker, even if it was crappy :P |
| 22:02.50 | kamdis | the MBA is built for a specific type of use. it obviously won't take the place of a MBP or other laptop that's really a functioning desktop. |
| 22:03.01 | kamdis | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:03.06 | art3mis | yeah i suppose so kamdis |
| 22:03.13 | ralfWORK | well yea |
| 22:03.28 | art3mis | i'd stil opt for a sony or toshiba palmtop over that thing though |
| 22:03.30 | kamdis | that's the party line from the Apple employees I've spoken to today. |
| 22:03.33 | kamdis | ;-) |
| 22:03.36 | art3mis | but im a nerd |
| 22:03.37 | ralfWORK | rofl |
| 22:03.41 | ralfWORK | here's the deal |
| 22:03.45 | ralfWORK | I'm not buying 2 laptops |
| 22:03.48 | ralfWORK | :) |
| 22:03.50 | art3mis | i like being able to do EVERYTHING on 1 device |
| 22:03.54 | art3mis | even if i dont need to |
| 22:04.08 | ralfWORK | art3mis: ok, then you don't need to be looking at a 3 LB PIECE OF SEX |
| 22:04.14 | art3mis | which is why my acer laptop boots ubuntu, xp and leopard |
| 22:04.42 | art3mis | no ralf the 1.5lb libretto is sex |
| 22:04.59 | art3mis | the mba is noting more than an oversized ipod ;P |
| 22:05.07 | ralfWORK | eh |
| 22:05.10 | art3mis | is it even tablet capable? |
| 22:05.10 | ralfWORK | I'll probably get one |
| 22:05.26 | ralfWORK | don't you mean iTablet capable? |
| 22:05.42 | art3mis | no i mean touchscreen ;P |
| 22:06.18 | ralfWORK | I loathe touchscreens |
| 22:06.57 | ralfWORK | when people touch my screen, I break their fingers |
| 22:07.24 | Thunder_Child | if the air was a convertable i would get it |
| 22:07.27 | ralfWORK | so the idea of interacting with my computer all day by smudging up the screen with french fry fingers is absolutely horrifying to me :( |
| 22:07.45 | Thunder_Child | ralfWORK, pro-tec-tor |
| 22:07.56 | art3mis | put the fries down tubby |
| 22:08.04 | ralfWORK | then I have to clean the protector |
| 22:08.12 | ralfWORK | it's not just about whether the damage is permanent |
| 22:08.27 | Thunder_Child | if they are cheap enough you can just replace it |
| 22:08.29 | ralfWORK | it's about staring at a smudgy screen |
| 22:08.45 | art3mis | i kept that plastic fuilm my monitor came with on for almost a year |
| 22:08.47 | ralfWORK | but hey, that's just me |
| 22:09.55 | ralfWORK | like I said, I just opt to beat the tar out of anyone who touches the screen |
| 22:12.25 | kamdis | so the iPhone is basically out for you then, ralf? |
| 22:12.27 | kamdis | ;-) |
| 22:12.34 | ralfWORK | IDK! |
| 22:13.36 | ralfWORK | I obsessively clean my cellphone ok! |
| 22:13.42 | ralfWORK | I'd probably do teh same with an iphone |
| 22:13.43 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 22:13.45 | Thunder_Child | not ok |
| 22:13.49 | ralfWORK | :( |
| 22:13.59 | Thunder_Child | obsessive != good |
| 22:14.07 | ralfWORK | but... I need to do it |
| 22:14.33 | Thunder_Child | not arguing that |
| 22:14.51 | kamdis | i'm pretty obssessive about my iphone too |
| 22:15.03 | ralfWORK | :( |
| 22:15.07 | kamdis | but it's not that bad unless the light hits it at a weird angle |
| 22:15.39 | ralfWORK | when I had a powerbook, I had a screen protector for when I put it in my bag |
| 22:16.00 | ralfWORK | I should probably stop now huh |
| 22:16.20 | ScytheBlade1 | This will be fun... I haven't opened my RSS reader since some time in December |
| 22:16.34 | ralfWORK | ewww good luck |
| 22:16.39 | ralfWORK | hope you don't DoS yourself |
| 22:16.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Up to 720 unread |
| 22:17.18 | Thunder_Child | Up to 720 Deletes |
| 22:17.23 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 22:17.25 | Thunder_Child | s/es/ed/ |
| 22:17.37 | ScytheBlade1 | That's actually why I winted to fire it up... there are a few blogs that I keep archives of |
| 22:17.39 | malreth | i have 10609 unread in my RSS reader... and i read articles every day |
| 22:17.52 | ScytheBlade1 | I'll wind up outright deleting 90% of them, but I want to keep 10% |
| 22:17.53 | ralfWORK | hrm. mail.app in leopard has an RSS reader correct? |
| 22:18.07 | ralfWORK | malreth: then apparently you don't read enough articles every day! |
| 22:18.18 | malreth | you're right... i don't |
| 22:19.29 | ScytheBlade1 | I lied... looks like the last time I opened it was some time in November |
| 22:20.43 | Thunder_Child | lol, one of the gorilla's in un'goro dropped an "empty barrel" |
| 22:20.57 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:21.16 | ralfWORK | hahhahaah |
| 22:21.58 | kamdis | ~lart Thunder_Child |
| 22:21.58 | purl | drops a humongous exploding nuke on Thunder_Child |
| 22:22.09 | kamdis | gorillas, not gorilla's |
| 22:22.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm |
| 22:22.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Whoops |
| 22:22.28 | Thunder_Child | <-- sucks at english |
| 22:22.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Several browser windows + email + WoW + RSS reader + 2GB of RAM + 0GB swap = the OS randomly killing apps to get more RAM back |
| 22:22.48 | Atriace | Has anyone found a Photoshop BLP plugin? |
| 22:23.08 | Thunder_Child | s/english/spelling and grammer/ |
| 22:23.22 | Thunder_Child | i rock at vocab on the otherhand |
| 22:24.34 | ralfWORK | ScytheBlade1: sounds like Lunix |
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| 22:26.25 | ScytheBlade1 | ralfWORK: sounds like what happens when I also have a 700MB RAM disk going on |
| 22:31.24 | kamdis | Thunder_Child, Im really just teasing. Though I believe I have ranted here before about the rash of possessives taking the place of plurals lately. It's a pet peeve of mine. |
| 22:31.43 | Thunder_Child | thats fine, rant away, i know i suck at it |
| 22:32.03 | Thunder_Child | for example i say 'youre' just for cogwheel |
| 22:33.24 | kamdis | lol |
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| 22:53.12 | Polarina | cogwheel: Why a posting alt? |
| 22:53.32 | cogwheel | so i can express my opinion without reflecting on blizz |
| 22:53.37 | cogwheel | (it's on another account) |
| 22:53.55 | Polarina | cogwheel: Harassing opinions, I guess. |
| 22:54.02 | cogwheel | honest opinions |
| 22:54.04 | cogwheel | :P |
| 22:54.15 | Thunder_Child | dame thing |
| 22:54.17 | Thunder_Child | same* |
| 22:54.23 | Polarina | So why not post it with your main account? |
| 22:54.29 | cogwheel | because it's green... |
| 22:54.30 | Thunder_Child | mvp |
| 22:54.38 | Thunder_Child | sucks to be good sometimes |
| 22:54.39 | Polarina | cogwheel: And? |
| 22:54.43 | cogwheel | and... |
| 22:54.48 | Duman | NO AND THEN |
| 22:54.49 | Polarina | cogwheel: Why does that matter? |
| 22:55.11 | cogwheel | "With all of the above in mind, Blizzard expects that MVPs always remember that they are representatives of both Blizzard and the World of Warcraft community; your conduct, good or bad, reflects on that community and either adds to or detracts from Blizzard’s credibility. This holds true regardless of whether you are logged onto the forums, or playing in-game. An MVP’s attitude and... |
| 22:55.12 | kamdis | because now he's looked at by the wow community as an extension of Blizzard, in a way. |
| 22:55.13 | cogwheel | ...conduct sets the stage for how a player will perceive their Blizzard experience—either negatively or positively." |
| 22:55.29 | Wobwork | woo |
| 22:55.37 | Wobwork | are you getting reprimanded, Coggle? |
| 22:55.42 | cogwheel | no |
| 22:55.46 | Wobwork | good good =) |
| 22:55.48 | cogwheel | that was a quote from my invitation |
| 22:55.49 | Duman | I bet the CMs do the same thing :) |
| 22:55.50 | Wobwork | hehe =) |
| 22:55.52 | Thunder_Child | that was prolly an into to the job |
| 22:55.52 | Duman | (post on alts) |
| 22:55.53 | kamdis | so do we get to know the name of this posting alt or are we going to have to figure it out on our own? |
| 22:55.56 | Thunder_Child | inro* |
| 22:55.58 | cogwheel | Duman: i know for a fact they do :P |
| 22:56.00 | Thunder_Child | intro* |
| 22:56.02 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* |
| 22:56.06 | cogwheel | some of them anyway... |
| 22:56.13 | Polarina | cogwheel: Create another character on a different realm (On your main account) and change the character on the forum you post with. |
| 22:56.25 | cogwheel | Polarina: green is account-wide |
| 22:56.31 | Wobwork | orly? |
| 22:56.59 | Polarina | cogwheel: So, therotically, you could create a character named "Ilikebeef" and have its posts be in green colour? |
| 22:57.27 | cogwheel | Wobwork: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3881847217&postId=40062521667&sid=1#0 |
| 22:57.40 | cogwheel | (note name/class/level) |
| 22:57.47 | Duman | heh |
| 22:58.25 | Polarina | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:58.25 | Polarina | [The topic you're trying to post to has been deleted] |
| 22:58.31 | cogwheel | Polarina: too slow :P |
| 22:58.47 | cogwheel | it was just me saying "Ya rly" on my rogue |
| 22:58.49 | Polarina | cogwheel: ? |
| 22:58.58 | Polarina | cogwheel: Post again... |
| 22:59.06 | Duman | it was just a post from "Cognitowheel" |
| 22:59.11 | Duman | a L3something rogue |
| 22:59.12 | kamdis | It was green too. I saw it. |
| 22:59.14 | Polarina | Ok. |
| 22:59.15 | Duman | and yes, green |
| 22:59.16 | Thunder_Child | ~lart cogwheel |
| 22:59.17 | purl | takes out a seltzer bottle and sprays cogwheel in the face. You know, one of those old-school seltzer bottles clowns have? Yeah those. Anyway, consider yourself spritzed |
| 22:59.37 | Polarina | cogwheel: Good luck and good night and sleep tight. :) |
| 23:00.09 | cogwheel | aww.... it's bed time? |
| 23:00.14 | cogwheel | guess i should go tell my boss... |
| 23:00.27 | Polarina | cogwheel: ? |
| 23:00.51 | cogwheel | Polarina: I could say the same (?) to you :P |
| 23:02.52 | Thunder_Child | people passing out because they could not stay awake anymore |
| 23:03.38 | cogwheel | did he cheer at people passing out or polarina leaving? |
| 23:03.41 | cogwheel | the world may never no |
| 23:03.47 | kamdis | I was about to ask |
| 23:03.57 | cogwheel | s/no/know/ |
| 23:04.04 | kamdis | But I'll draw my own conclusions. |
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| 23:04.26 | Thunder_Child | does the world care? |
| 23:06.14 | cogwheel | Thunder_Child: depends on whether polarina would go on a murderous rampage if he found out... |
| 23:06.24 | Thunder_Child | she iirc |
| 23:06.41 | cogwheel | he until proved (or insisted) otherwise |
| 23:06.41 | cogwheel | :P |
| 23:07.08 | kamdis | What is this? Cogwheel may have overassumed? lol |
| 23:07.27 | kamdis | What about Stealth, Cog? |
| 23:07.36 | Thunder_Child | cogwheel is becoming paranoid in his old age |
| 23:08.02 | cogwheel | kamdis: try it imo :P |
| 23:08.23 | cogwheel | at least with the book we have tech editors ;) |
| 23:09.16 | kamdis | I'd have to roll a Rogue to do that. Hmmm. |
| 23:09.30 | kamdis | I'll jsut get a friend to do it. |
| 23:10.00 | Shirik | Is ".PSD" anything you guys are aware of other than "photoshop document?" |
| 23:10.16 | Cide | nope |
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| 23:12.56 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, http://filext.com/file-extension/PSD |
| 23:13.08 | Thunder_Child | more than one |
| 23:13.21 | Shirik | thanks |
| 23:13.25 | Thunder_Child | np |
| 23:20.54 | batrick | it makes me sad you can't yield a coroutine in a debug hook, you could do a lot of fun things if you could : / |
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| 23:22.55 | Shirik | Make a patch! |
| 23:23.01 | cogwheel | station |
| 23:23.07 | Shirik | station? |
| 23:23.08 | Lunessa | HP can kiss my white hairy ass. |
| 23:23.14 | Lunessa | STATION |
| 23:23.32 | Thunder_Child | tmi Lunessa |
| 23:23.49 | Lunessa | No, you like it. |
| 23:24.14 | cogwheel | s/tmi/gimmeh more, / |
| 23:24.15 | Thunder_Child | if i liked it i would not have said anything |
| 23:25.51 | Shirik | 7zip opens RAR files? |
| 23:26.01 | Shirik | I wonder on the legality of that... |
| 23:26.01 | Thunder_Child | rar opens rar files |
| 23:26.03 | cogwheel | 7zip is teh uber |
| 23:26.25 | cogwheel | Shirik: i think only the compression is covered by patents |
| 23:26.32 | Thunder_Child | damn, cogwheel beat me to it |
| 23:26.37 | Lunessa | HP's OSX driverfor a Sacnjet 5590 crashes during install... repeatedly. Then once you DO manage to get the f'ing thing installed, it crashes your mac requiring a cold boot. |
| 23:26.43 | Shirik | Oh so it only extracts? |
| 23:26.47 | cogwheel | the decompression is just a file format |
| 23:26.50 | cogwheel | spec |
| 23:27.02 | cogwheel | so there's really no patentable algorithm involved |
| 23:27.04 | Thunder_Child | i think so Shirik |
| 23:27.29 | cogwheel | yeah. 7z will only compress to zip, tar, or 7z |
| 23:27.39 | Shirik | Hi Cogwheel, You've helped me alot in the past with my macro and I must say that i'm a super warlock due to my massive macro advantage! :) |
| 23:27.42 | Shirik | lol |
| 23:27.59 | cogwheel | kd3: |
| 23:28.01 | Thunder_Child | oxymoron |
| 23:28.05 | cogwheel | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3907978485&pageNo=1&sid=1#2#3 |
| 23:28.08 | cogwheel | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3907978485&pageNo=1&sid=1#3 |
| 23:28.12 | cogwheel | ^ correction |
| 23:28.56 | cogwheel | needs a "THIS IS A STICKY" post ;) |
| 23:28.56 | Shirik | It's been a while since I've seen a "this is a sticky" |
| 23:28.57 | kd3 | sl run |
| 23:29.04 | Shirik | let them wipe |
| 23:29.04 | cogwheel | did kelfarr get temp banned or something? he's being remarkably tame today |
| 23:29.05 | kd3 | lemme get ooc |
| 23:29.27 | kamdis | sweet |
| 23:29.31 | kamdis | new this is a sticky |
| 23:29.35 | kamdis | :D |
| 23:31.36 | Shirik | mm I don't like that one as much =( |
| 23:31.46 | Shirik | There's no more "not a sticky" pointing off the screen |
| 23:32.08 | Shirik | That was my favorite part |
| 23:32.16 | kd3 | there, take your pick |
| 23:32.26 | Shirik | yey <3 |
| 23:36.49 | cogwheel | :( |
| 23:37.22 | cogwheel | i guess no one uses cogsbar... i haven't gotten a single bug report and I just realized I forgot to update it for 2.3.2 |
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| 23:38.43 | Thunder_Child | will it error? |
| 23:39.13 | cogwheel | i suppose it will work fine for anyone who doesn't use any of its remapping features |
| 23:39.17 | bleeter | and if not, why not |
| 23:39.19 | cogwheel | but then i ask what's the point |
| 23:39.57 | cogwheel | anyone with forms or stealth will not see the correct actions |
| 23:40.03 | batrick | you're forgetting people are far too lazy to give the author a bug report |
| 23:40.33 | cogwheel | batrick: but not too lazy to go WTF this is broke why havent u updated yet?!??! |
| 23:40.37 | cogwheel | usually |
| 23:41.45 | Thrae|Work | Dammit, I'm banned from wowhead. |
| 23:42.02 | cogwheel | O.o |
| 23:42.21 | Thrae|Work | Well, more like the ircatwork.com hostmask is. |
| 23:44.23 | Thunder_Child | uhhh...sucks to be you> |
| 23:44.46 | Thunder_Child | s/>/?/ |
| 23:46.19 | batrick | http://www.news.com/2100-1006_3-6119618.html |
| 23:46.25 | batrick | 80 cores in 5 years O.o |
| 23:47.04 | Shirik | omg |
| 23:47.34 | Shirik | it's like a minibeowulf |
| 23:50.59 | Thrae|Work | And games will support maybe 6 by then. |
| 23:51.50 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 23:52.00 | Wobwork | I read that as I R CAT (at) work .com |
| 23:52.12 | Wobwork | lolcats has ruined me |
| 23:52.26 | Thrae|Work | You're catty. |
| 23:52.31 | Wobwork | then again, I used to read ircops as i r cops |
| 23:56.22 | Shirik | ? |
| 23:56.40 | cogwheel | dolby-wowi: is there any possibility you can have the "Replace with" radio automatically check itself when you click the Browse button on the Modify File page? |
| 23:57.34 | cogwheel | and also, i'd like to not to be forced to change the version number whenever i do upload a file :P |
| 23:57.45 | cogwheel | either change would make this less frustrating ;) |
| 23:57.54 | bleeter | Wobwork: u r da fuzz |
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| 23:58.41 | malreth | The existence of Willem has proven my faith in the Universe to create a better idiot |
| 23:59.06 | Lunessa | Human stupidity is more common than hydrogen or helium atoms |
| 23:59.07 | Shirik | I may be able to force it to use the old version number, I don't know though. |
