| 00:00.48 | |pez| | I'm becoming pretty sure I have some sort of weird electrical current in my body most of the time. :P |
| 00:00.49 | End | chortle chortle it's a portal! |
| 00:01.51 | Shirik | |pez|: It's probably the EMF that I've directed at your house |
| 00:01.54 | MentalPower | |pez|: have you tried grounding yourself before trying to kiss him? |
| 00:01.57 | Shirik | sorry, EM Field, not EMF |
| 00:02.22 | |pez| | MentalPower: not really. |
| 00:02.25 | MentalPower | ie, touch a doorknob or pc case? |
| 00:02.34 | Shirik | lol |
| 00:02.37 | MentalPower | try it, cause in all reality it could be either of you |
| 00:02.40 | Shirik | "be right back honey I'm going to go touch a pc case" |
| 00:02.46 | MentalPower | ~lart Shirik |
| 00:02.46 | purl | says "boot to the head" and knocks Shirik over |
| 00:02.57 | |pez| | touching my laptop also makes me electrecuted. :p |
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| 00:03.11 | Shirik | |pez|: Actually it shouldn't |
| 00:03.24 | |pez| | Shirik: very aware of that |
| 00:03.35 | Shirik | firstly there's only 5V except in the power supply, which in most laptops is actually in the adapter itself. Secondly you're supposed to touch the grounded portion not the live board >< |
| 00:03.36 | MentalPower | that might be the cause actually... |
| 00:03.44 | Lunessa | |pez|: I used to have the same problem, especially when the weather turned colder. |
| 00:03.58 | TC-Holding | ~lart Shirik |
| 00:03.58 | purl | crushes Shirik with a full height scsi disk |
| 00:04.10 | bleeter | I'd be looking at the fabrics of your clothes, vs the fabrics of his |
| 00:04.18 | bleeter | yes, in combination with humidity |
| 00:04.28 | |pez| | I touch the screen when I get electrecuted. :P |
| 00:04.39 | Shirik | But Lunessa's right, turn up the heat :) |
| 00:04.44 | Shirik | in more ways than one |
| 00:04.48 | MentalPower | all this bf talk makes me think of mine... brb... |
| 00:04.51 | |pez| | if we turn up the heat, I'd die of it XD |
| 00:05.06 | Lunessa | I solved it by wearing more cotton, fewer synthetics and keeping the temp in the house a few degrees warmer. |
| 00:05.09 | |pez| | But really, the showercurtains are weirdly attracted to me as well. |
| 00:05.19 | Thunder_Child | http://www.tshirthell.com/miscpages/nsn/newshirt_010708_news.htm |
| 00:05.47 | Shirik | Maybe you should wear an antistatic wristband for the rest of your life |
| 00:05.56 | Duman | heh |
| 00:06.01 | |pez| | the thought has crossed my mind, honestly. |
| 00:06.35 | Shirik | You just need a really long extension cord |
| 00:06.39 | Shirik | and you can connect it directly to the ground wire |
| 00:07.04 | |pez| | Mostly for the reason that I don't want me being the reason a computer I'm trying to fix at some point, will just die because I electrecuted it. |
| 00:08.12 | |pez| | the showercurtain thing is really scary though, I go into the shower, and the damned things cling to me like want me, badly. |
| 00:08.25 | End | they're just attracted to you! |
| 00:08.30 | End | ...or your charge |
| 00:08.33 | End | one or the other |
| 00:10.11 | |pez| | I bet it's the charge ;__; |
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| 00:11.08 | Lunessa | Pez - seriously, you just need to discharge. And get a better shower curtain |
| 00:11.17 | Shirik | no |
| 00:11.20 | Shirik | electrify yourself! |
| 00:11.27 | Shirik | Be bold! |
| 00:13.05 | sag_ich_nicht | ~lart Shirik |
| 00:13.05 | purl | DoSes Shirik |
| 00:13.15 | |pez| | freaking annoying having to discharge myself whenever I feel like kissing my boyfriend. :P |
| 00:13.17 | Shirik | wtf do you guys hate me today |
| 00:13.25 | JoshBorke | Shirik: today is the same as every day |
| 00:13.35 | Shirik | I have never been lart-ed 3 times in 10 minutes |
| 00:13.39 | Elessdy | what we gonna do tonight, pinky? |
| 00:13.44 | Elessdy | *brakn |
| 00:13.46 | Elessdy | good god |
| 00:13.47 | Elessdy | *brain |
| 00:13.55 | Elessdy | the same thing we do every night, pinky: hate Shirik |
| 00:14.02 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik no conspiracy release and no bug free raidframes make sag_ich_nicht a something something |
| 00:14.10 | Shirik | I know |
| 00:14.14 | Shirik | I wish I knew what happened to Cidan |
| 00:14.19 | Shirik | he fell off the face of the earth |
| 00:14.27 | sag_ich_nicht | ~seen Cidan |
| 00:14.30 | purl | cidan is currently on #wowi-lounge (12d 15h 56m 46s) #wowace (12d 15h 56m 46s), last said: 'Idiots'. |
| 00:14.31 | Corrodias | that name sounds familiar |
| 00:14.39 | sag_ich_nicht | well what the hell. |
| 00:15.18 | Shirik | yes but he doesn't talk :P |
| 00:16.00 | Thunder_Child | art3mis, http://gizmodo.com/342333/hello-kitty-gallery-and-ces-2008-booth-tour |
| 00:16.09 | batrick | ~seen batrick |
| 00:16.10 | purl | batrick is currently on #botpark (8d 11h 21m 30s) #wowi-lounge (8d 11h 21m 30s). Has said a total of 134 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen batrick'. |
| 00:16.12 | MentalPower | suggestions for MacOS SVN clients please? |
| 00:16.24 | batrick | neat |
| 00:16.28 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik: i can see that |
| 00:16.41 | batrick | MentalPower do u play halo 3? |
| 00:16.44 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik: don't you have his phonenumber or something? |
| 00:16.55 | MentalPower | batrick: a bit, why? |
| 00:16.59 | Shirik | Yes but it's difficult to use it without a phone |
| 00:17.13 | batrick | i think i saw u the other day, maybe |
| 00:17.33 | MentalPower | my gamertag is MentalPower, but I haven't played H3 in a while |
| 00:17.52 | MentalPower | and actually, never on that gamertag |
| 00:18.26 | Lunessa | ciao tutti |
| 00:18.26 | MentalPower | so, MacOSX SVN clients anyone? |
| 00:18.35 | MentalPower | ciao lunessa |
| 00:18.38 | MentalPower | bah, too late |
| 00:18.42 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik uh use Gizmo then? |
| 00:18.48 | sag_ich_nicht | or do you lack a headset as well? |
| 00:18.54 | Shirik | too hard >< |
| 00:18.59 | Shirik | Besides I'll have phone service tomorrow |
| 00:20.20 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik, could you, for once, LIVE IN A PLACE WHERE ALL YOUR STUFF IS WORKING? D: |
| 00:21.46 | Thunder_Child | sag_ich_nicht, that would be to easy |
| 00:23.42 | Thunder_Child | "A Mac Pro with two intel 45nm Quad-Core Xeons at up to 3.2GHz each. The front side bus is humming along at 1600MHz now, and RAM at 800MHZ. The computer also comes standard with ATI HD 2600 XT graphics with 256MB of video memory, but can be upgraded to support NVIDIA GeForce 8800GT with 512MB of video RAM or a Quadro FX 5600 with 1.5GB of memory." |
| 00:23.52 | Thunder_Child | is not bad for $2799 |
| 00:24.26 | Thunder_Child | though it would be a bit more to fit all of the rest of the other 3 cards in it |
| 00:24.39 | sag_ich_nicht | the video cards all suck |
| 00:25.04 | sag_ich_nicht | the 2600 XT is too weak, the 8800 doesn't have enough texture memory and the quadro can't be used for gaming period |
| 00:25.12 | sag_ich_nicht | fail! |
| 00:25.19 | |pez| | awww XD |
| 00:25.28 | |pez| | I'd love my laptop... if only it didn't overheat. |
| 00:26.26 | wereHamster | sag_ich_nicht, why can't the quadro be used for gaming? |
| 00:26.40 | MentalPower | sag_ich_nicht: macs use standard PCI-express cards, so if you can find drivers for one, just plug it in |
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| 00:27.41 | Thunder_Child | wereHamster, it's not built for it |
| 00:27.47 | Antiarc | The quadro is designed to process massive amounts of geometry for the purposes of 3D modeling |
| 00:27.49 | Thunder_Child | it's a workstation card |
| 00:27.49 | Antiarc | Not for gaming |
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| 00:28.27 | wereHamster | I know that, but that doesn't mean it can't be used for gaming, it's still a good card |
| 00:28.43 | MentalPower | I've used a quadro for gaming... |
| 00:29.57 | sag_ich_nicht | you CAN use it |
| 00:30.03 | sag_ich_nicht | but it'll suck. |
| 00:30.06 | Antiarc | You can use a Quadro for gaming, but you can also use a hammer as a screwdriver |
| 00:30.08 | Antiarc | It just won't work as well. |
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| 00:30.39 | wereHamster | does it really 'suck' or is the performance just a bit worse? |
| 00:30.40 | MentalPower | you guys make it sound like you'll get a massive performance drop |
| 00:30.47 | MentalPower | its not that bad |
| 00:30.51 | Mike-N-Go | "/cast will toggle spells again unless the name is prefixed with an exclamation mark, e.g. /castsequence Steady Shot, !Auto Shot" what does that mean? |
| 00:31.08 | MentalPower | maybe 10%-25% drop |
| 00:31.21 | Lukian | Mike-N-Go, it only affects hunters and wand use :p |
| 00:31.33 | |pez| | smeeptime! |
| 00:31.35 | |pez| | ninight |
| 00:31.42 | Mike-N-Go | In what regards? |
| 00:31.59 | sag_ich_nicht | Mike-N-Go in that hunters can have their 1 button max dps macro again. |
| 00:32.10 | Lukian | It will allow the 'cast' to complete, rather than toggling it off |
| 00:33.03 | batrick | Mike-N-Go: it means ! only turns it on, never off |
| 00:33.16 | Antiarc | The quadros have a severely lower fillrate than the geforces. |
| 00:33.27 | Mike-N-Go | And how does it benefit a hunter? |
| 00:33.29 | Antiarc | Which means that if you're doing anything with lots of alpha, you're boned |
| 00:34.11 | Thunder_Child | ok, so the spec'd out Mac Pro comes to $18,049 |
| 00:34.19 | Thunder_Child | a tad high |
| 00:34.38 | Lukian | Mike-N-Go, it means they can spam a single button and maximise their dps |
| 00:34.52 | malreth | Mike-N-Go: doing a /castsequence Steady Shot, Auto Shot means every other time the button is pressed, it *toggles* auto shot... so every 4th time the button is pressed, auto shot turns *off* |
| 00:35.08 | malreth | with the !, auto shot always stays on |
| 00:35.23 | malreth | it turns the toggle into an always-on |
| 00:35.27 | Lukian | and before steady shot fires again (as a castsequence loops), the auto shot completes. |
| 00:35.30 | Mike-N-Go | Ahh, so that is why my 'ol macro halts sometimes. |
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| 00:40.45 | Duman | why do so many people have issues with haste calcuation |
| 00:40.59 | haste | because math is hard |
| 00:41.25 | Duman | clearly |
| 00:41.31 | Duman | "Math is hard.... let's go shopping!" |
| 00:41.32 | malreth | oh wait... that's not right |
| 00:41.46 | Wobwork | is haste hard? =) |
| 00:41.56 | haste | rofl |
| 00:41.58 | Duman | haha |
| 00:45.38 | sag_ich_nicht | Lukian my hair is longer. |
| 00:45.40 | sag_ich_nicht | diaf. |
| 00:46.01 | Lukian | prove it! |
| 00:46.03 | Lukian | (pic plz) |
| 00:46.26 | malreth | cam pix plz |
| 00:47.35 | Mike-N-Go | I just love how many people believe 100% additional haste is, like, all too much. |
| 00:47.52 | Mike-N-Go | 100% additional haste, that only means twice as much as what you had.. |
| 00:48.29 | Lukian | what adds 100% additional haste? |
| 00:48.38 | Industrial | wtb additional haste |
| 00:48.39 | Antiarc | Unholy Frenzy? |
| 00:48.47 | Antiarc | Unholy Frenzy is love |
| 00:49.03 | Industrial | lulz my speed is already 1.0 :P |
| 00:51.14 | Industrial | hm question, you need about 1.5 speed to rotate steady/auto right? what if your speed is 3.0? (eg s3 arena) cant you just do two steady's? |
| 00:51.20 | Industrial | oh wait its a 1.5 casting time init |
| 00:51.23 | Industrial | hmm |
| 00:51.42 | Industrial | any reason not to get it as hunter? (not that I can anyway) |
| 00:52.29 | Mike-N-Go | Lukian, I only read someone who added multiple items together. |
| 00:52.49 | gnorlish | what spec are you industrial |
| 00:52.51 | Industrial | mb |
| 00:52.53 | Industrial | bm |
| 00:52.59 | Lukian | Mike-N-Go, lol at addition, people need to learn to read patch notes :) |
| 00:53.22 | gnorlish | well then your attacks are 20% faster due to serpent's swiftness |
| 00:53.45 | gnorlish | you cannot fit 2x steady in even without iaoth procs |
| 00:53.52 | Industrial | meh right |
| 00:53.59 | Mike-N-Go | Yah, yah, I know that multiple applications of haste are multiplictive, as in multiplied together. |
| 00:54.07 | gnorlish | you'll end up having to squeeze in an instant after the steady |
| 00:54.12 | gnorlish | and will go oom really fast |
| 00:54.34 | gnorlish | aim for 2.7 or 2.8 |
| 00:54.55 | Industrial | !c eu grim batol seryan |
| 00:54.56 | Industrial | errrr |
| 00:55.03 | Industrial | !c eu boulderfist seryan |
| 00:55.04 | Industrial | :< |
| 00:55.56 | ThraeBot | Industrial: seryan is not the character you are looking for! |
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| 00:56.18 | Industrial | gnorlish: yeah I have 2.5 now |
| 00:56.43 | Industrial | but I dont have iAotH |
| 00:56.58 | ThraeBot | Industrial: seryan is not the character you are looking for! |
| 00:57.00 | Industrial | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Boulderfist&n=Seryan |
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| 00:58.04 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3773334567&pageNo=1&sid=1#0 <-- good times with the auction house! |
| 00:59.50 | MentalPower | wb Cairenn-san |
| 00:59.52 | Antiarc | OpenAuth is an interesting proposal |
| 00:59.56 | Antiarc | And OpenID |
| 00:59.57 | Cairenn | thanks MentalPower :) |
| 01:00.05 | Antiarc | But man, the current spec for login names really sucks ass. :/ |
| 01:00.13 | Antiarc | It's not something that the general populace will get. |
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| 01:04.42 | foxlit | "Should you receive such a letter with what appears to be a missing attachment (again, from one of our Auction Houses), we encourage you to complete a reset of your user interface, as such a process has repeatedly proved to restore visibility. " |
| 01:04.57 | foxlit | "Evil addons are hiding your itemz!" |
| 01:05.34 | ScytheBlade1 | A good person to blame |
| 01:05.43 | bleeter | I've just posted about how my [Swift Magic Broom] experienced the same kinda issue, but when mailed from a bank alt and not from the AH :/ |
| 01:06.03 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: not only good, the only ;) |
| 01:07.20 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter: haha |
| 01:11.42 | bleeter | lolz http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3773504895&postId=37729070238&sid=1#1 |
| 01:11.52 | bleeter | "You can find Urda the Hammerfall Wind Rider Master currently hiding out from the rain beneath the platform that she normally stands upon. We're working on coaxing her out from under there and she should be returning to her normal position in an upcoming patch." |
| 01:13.02 | MentalPower | wow |
| 01:13.04 | MentalPower | priceless |
| 01:14.22 | MentalPower | bleeter == mathinna? |
| 01:15.06 | bleeter | yar... maybe sometime this year you'll remember me telling you this :P |
| 01:15.36 | MentalPower | nah |
| 01:15.43 | MentalPower | its good to ask averytime :P |
| 01:16.04 | bleeter | roflz |
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| 01:35.08 | bleeter | someone in my guild is reporting boats are missing NPCs still... that happening for anyone else? |
| 01:35.11 | bleeter | bah |
| 01:35.23 | bleeter | didn't mean to press enter yet, was gunna check patch notes first.. so pretend you didn't see me post that |
| 01:35.29 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 01:35.34 | AnduinLothar | known bug |
| 01:35.59 | bleeter | wish the patcher would download a 'known bug' list :/ |
| 01:36.02 | bleeter | and tools |
| 01:37.22 | MentalPower | add source code while you're at it :P |
| 01:38.15 | bleeter | only if the abandoned *nix source comes down the pipe, too ;) |
| 01:39.13 | MentalPower | sure, they'll include the entire revision control database in a .tar.bz2 file |
| 01:39.19 | MentalPower | so you can look at the diffs and all |
| 01:39.24 | MentalPower | quite nice actually :P |
| 01:40.21 | MentalPower | they won't give out read access to the internal repo cause that would be too much BW (take a look at WoWAce's issue), but they want full disclosure :P |
| 01:41.19 | MentalPower | and they also don't want you to see whats down the pipe :P |
| 01:41.33 | bleeter | I'd be suprised if they don't use some kinda DSCCS, in which case BW wouldn't be as much of an issue :P |
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| 02:03.31 | sag_ich_nicht | EU servers down. COMMENCE ADDON UPDATES UPLOAD SEQUENCE; YOU SUCKERS! |
| 02:08.01 | sylvanaar | maybe ppl here are smarter |
| 02:08.04 | sylvanaar | can someone explain to me what the hell string:match(something, "%f[0-9]") does |
| 02:08.30 | sylvanaar | what is %f - a frontier? whats that |
| 02:09.03 | sylvanaar | oh i found it |
| 02:09.19 | sylvanaar | http://lua-users.org/wiki/FrontierPattern |
| 02:11.18 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter url for the patchfilething for EU? |
| 02:14.53 | kd3 | what addons need to be updated for 2.3.2? the only thing I'm aware of that end-users need to deal with is using ! and the various and sundry /castsequence bugs |
| 02:16.09 | bleeter | sag_ich_nicht: how the hell would I know? I'm not EU??!!! |
| 02:16.21 | bleeter | kd3: prolly auctioneer at some stage ;) |
| 02:16.40 | sag_ich_nicht | kd3: SetMaxMin is now more strict |
| 02:16.43 | bleeter | and definately stubby, once we catch this memory error now that the game doesn't crash on us |
| 02:16.45 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 02:16.49 | sag_ich_nicht | *SetMinMax |
| 02:17.06 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter: you had them before :P |
| 02:17.18 | sag_ich_nicht | i think they're hosted in wow.com as well |
| 02:17.41 | bleeter | no |
| 02:17.41 | sag_ich_nicht | maybe even same file as for US, like with the login server being eu.login.wow.com actually |
| 02:17.49 | sag_ich_nicht | *on wow.com |
| 02:17.51 | sag_ich_nicht | ffs! |
| 02:18.53 | sag_ich_nicht | then just gimme the url for the US one it'll probably be similiar to the EU one :> |
| 02:18.56 | sag_ich_nicht | please :O |
| 02:19.00 | bleeter | swearing at me ain't gunna get me to hand over a file I don't have |
| 02:19.13 | sag_ich_nicht | the ffs! was directed at my typo |
| 02:19.14 | sag_ich_nicht | not you. |
| 02:19.36 | bleeter | given your tendency towards an abrasive nature, it's hard to tell |
| 02:19.41 | sag_ich_nicht | sorry. |
| 02:19.52 | AnduinLothar | damnit. i hate Naj'entus... |
| 02:20.03 | AnduinLothar | he's the one and only reason i keep having to spec back to holy |
| 02:20.07 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm reffering to the file WoW uses to determine if it should push a patch to the client or not |
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| 02:20.15 | sag_ich_nicht | AnduinLothar why is that? |
| 02:20.26 | AnduinLothar | cause our guild doesn't have quite enough healers |
| 02:20.32 | AnduinLothar | and Naj needs 8 or 9 |
| 02:20.38 | sag_ich_nicht | btw. in what kind of melee group setup are you in? |
| 02:20.53 | AnduinLothar | a crappy one |
| 02:20.54 | sag_ich_nicht | (normally, that is) |
| 02:21.31 | AnduinLothar | we have 1 dps war, 4 rogues, a new enhancement shammy, 0 feral droods, and me |
| 02:21.37 | bleeter | sag_ich_nicht: if I previously had the *URL* (note, not file), it would've been from a report, and not something I keep around as I'm *not EU* |
| 02:21.48 | AnduinLothar | so the best i can get is war, hunter, me, shammy, rogue |
| 02:21.49 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah so am i, and our shaman is too dumb to get that windfury > agi, if there are 2 people in the group wielding a 2h, ESPECIALLY on trash |
| 02:22.27 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter: well, do you happen to have the URL for the US one? maybe i'm remembering it wrong and you didn't link it, in which case i'm sorry i bothered you |
| 02:22.53 | bleeter | http://206.16.22.128/update/PatchSequenceFile.txt |
| 02:23.42 | sag_ich_nicht | thanks |
| 02:25.39 | kd3 | huh. weird. they've got a 7752 build out too. |
| 02:26.15 | sag_ich_nicht | that's kinda weird |
| 02:26.57 | sag_ich_nicht | http://80.239.178.126/update/PatchSequenceFile.txt EU \o/ |
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| 02:27.57 | Mike-N-Go | Yay, volly is fixed! |
| 02:28.10 | sag_ich_nicht | what was broken about it? |
| 02:28.21 | bleeter | it's not fixed |
| 02:28.34 | bleeter | it's reverted to the old animation until performance issues with the new animation are fixed |
| 02:28.43 | bleeter | or so says hortus in the bug forum |
| 02:29.02 | sag_ich_nicht | lql. |
| 02:29.15 | bleeter | Mike-N-Go: I always had a problem with the old animation... I'm using a gun, so why are arrows falling from the sky? ;) |
| 02:29.33 | Mike-N-Go | Oh? |
| 02:29.42 | Mike-N-Go | I was talking about what was broke in 2.3 |
| 02:29.54 | Mike-N-Go | No projectiles, just a bunch of fuzz. |
| 02:30.31 | bleeter | was meant to be the volley anim as used in BT |
| 02:30.47 | bleeter | I guess, fuzz, would be correct, as it's not meant to be bullets or arrows |
| 02:30.55 | bleeter | (not having seen the BT anim) |
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| 03:04.07 | sag_ich_nicht | kd3 found out what that build 7752 is about yet? :> |
| 03:04.14 | kd3 | not a clue |
| 03:04.20 | sag_ich_nicht | weird |
| 03:05.09 | sag_ich_nicht | hm |
| 03:05.10 | sag_ich_nicht | aaaah |
| 03:05.11 | sag_ich_nicht | found it |
| 03:05.14 | sag_ich_nicht | it's the trial client |
| 03:05.32 | kd3 | the hell? using a newer build than the full client? |
| 03:05.43 | sag_ich_nicht | apparently |
| 03:06.05 | sag_ich_nicht | i googled for what the the files are patching from |
| 03:06.14 | sag_ich_nicht | which is a new build than the 2.3.0 current build too |
| 03:06.25 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 03:06.25 | sag_ich_nicht | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/search.html;jsessionid=A23F66CA9DFAA7D94432BFCA164BC913?forumId=11112&characterId=35473756993&sid=1 |
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| 03:06.38 | sag_ich_nicht | all posts involving it are users of the trial client |
| 03:07.47 | sag_ich_nicht | my guess is blizz adds some "extras" for the trial client |
| 03:07.50 | sag_ich_nicht | if you catch my drift |
| 03:07.59 | kd3 | heh |
| 03:08.33 | sag_ich_nicht | but |
| 03:09.04 | sag_ich_nicht | you could, you know, go ask Hortus or Slouken(or zootlsomethingican'trememberhowtospellhisnameforthelifeofit) ;P |
| 03:09.22 | laindir | *zootfizzle |
| 03:09.33 | kd3 | something tells me slouken's not going anywhere near work for a little while |
| 03:09.48 | laindir | indeed, paternity leave ftw |
| 03:09.57 | sag_ich_nicht | hm, true |
| 03:10.03 | sag_ich_nicht | i'd post congrats |
| 03:10.04 | sag_ich_nicht | but |
| 03:10.09 | sag_ich_nicht | no US acc. |
| 03:10.24 | ccox | give him a week, he'll be begging for work :-) |
| 03:10.58 | sag_ich_nicht | probably |
| 03:10.58 | ccox | (mostly for the peace and quiet :-) |
| 03:11.30 | bleeter | sag_ich_nicht: you could email him, it's not that hard to find :P |
| 03:13.57 | Shirik | so not fair |
| 03:14.09 | Shirik | I got hit by all the birds, electric bolt, and then got tossed into the air |
| 03:14.14 | Shirik | all at once on the eagle boss |
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| 03:23.06 | cogwheel | anyone know of a command line program in windows that can change a registry entry? |
| 03:23.59 | ccox | anyone else having problems downloading the 2.3.2 patch? |
| 03:24.06 | sag_ich_nicht | ~lart Shirik |
| 03:24.06 | purl | teaches Shirik that M$ Access is a database. No, really, a database. A real live multi-user... well, ok, not multi-user, but a database. Yeah, that sounds right. |
| 03:24.15 | ccox | after 25 minutes and zero bytes, I'm not happy |
| 03:24.21 | sag_ich_nicht | life's a bitch. now deal with it. |
| 03:24.30 | kd3 | ccox, http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors |
| 03:25.04 | cogwheel | purl: don't remind me :( |
| 03:25.06 | sag_ich_nicht | [04:23] <+cogwheel> anyone know of a command line program in windows that can change a registry entry? <--yeah, kind of. |
| 03:25.24 | cogwheel | ~lart sag_ich_nicht for preemption |
| 03:25.24 | purl | squeezes sag_ich_nicht till sag_ich_nicht turns blue like papa smurf for preemption |
| 03:25.35 | sag_ich_nicht | you have to creat the .reg file with the key you want first |
| 03:25.41 | sag_ich_nicht | then apply it silently with uh |
| 03:26.04 | sag_ich_nicht | god damn it what was it called? the same thing that's called when you doubleclick a .reg file in windows can be called silently |
| 03:26.11 | Gnarfoz | regedit /s ? |
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| 03:26.22 | sag_ich_nicht | i think that might be it, i dunno |
| 03:27.00 | cogwheel | hmm... maybe regedit has a bunch of command line options i don't know about :P |
| 03:27.40 | ccox | kd3 - so far, only 2 actually have the Windows patch (most say "coming soon"), and I need the Macintosh patch |
| 03:28.40 | Gnarfoz | cogwheel: for XP, there's also just 'reg' |
| 03:29.00 | cogwheel | Gnarfoz wins |
| 03:29.09 | cogwheel | exactly what i was looking for :) |
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| 03:41.20 | art3mis | hey cog |
| 03:41.20 | art3mis | how to you feel about john mccain winning ;P |
| 03:42.05 | art3mis | regsrv |
| 03:42.15 | art3mis | tahts how dlls get appointed |
| 03:42.38 | cogwheel | art3mis: disappointed... but i'm not the ron paul nut you seem to think I am ;) |
| 03:42.47 | art3mis | cladhaire is a lifless fuck? |
| 03:42.51 | cogwheel | aye |
| 03:42.56 | art3mis | poor guy |
| 03:43.00 | art3mis | everyone should have a lif |
| 03:43.02 | cogwheel | aren't we all? |
| 03:43.26 | art3mis | heh actually it had nothing to do with ron paul |
| 03:43.38 | art3mis | im just making that statement to all rep's ;P |
| 03:43.42 | art3mis | cuz i love mccain |
| 03:44.01 | art3mis | i can see him sitting on the whitehouse porch with a dog lemonade and a shotgun telling protesters to get off his lawn |
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| 03:44.26 | art3mis | there are a few rabid paul fans here though |
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| 03:44.52 | art3mis | kisinich needs to win |
| 03:44.57 | art3mis | his wifes just too damn hot |
| 03:45.16 | art3mis | at least i think its kisinich |
| 03:45.29 | laindir | kucinich, I think |
| 03:45.41 | art3mis | i meant hat more as in the hot wife part |
| 03:45.47 | art3mis | not how to spell his name ;P |
| 03:45.53 | laindir | and yeah... young, hot wife |
| 03:46.01 | laindir | ...tongue piercing |
| 03:47.48 | art3mis | http://la.indymedia.org/uploads/2007/02/kucinich.elizabeth.militaryfamilies.speakout.awards_ceremony.2.q4up8z.jpg |
| 03:48.02 | kd3 | oh sweet. Carl Sagan's "Cosmos" is back on the Science Channel |
| 03:48.25 | art3mis | yeah! |
| 03:48.35 | art3mis | long live carl! |
| 03:48.49 | art3mis | the greatest public figure for science EVER |
| 03:49.18 | art3mis | <-- is part of the planetary society |
| 03:49.41 | art3mis | thier VP right now i believe is Bill Nye |
| 03:49.50 | art3mis | the other awesome figure of science |
| 03:51.15 | End | man, I haven't run that in years |
| 03:52.11 | MentalPower | http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=341491 |
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| 03:53.55 | kd3 | http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=172853 |
| 03:54.44 | kd3 | good god. have I really been a member for nearly 8 years? |
| 03:55.25 | ccox | after setiathome told me they didn't want to go any faster (despite running at 20% the speed they could be), I gave up on them -- they just want publicity, not to do any science |
| 03:55.26 | MentalPower | you joined a few months before I did |
| 03:55.54 | MentalPower | ccox: what do you mean? |
| 03:56.13 | ccox | MP - I found problems in their code, and volunteered to help fix them - they didn't care |
| 03:56.16 | End | I probably started about 8 years ago too, but I didn't stay with it :P |
| 03:56.28 | ccox | MP - same thing when Apple and Intel offered to help them with their code |
| 03:56.33 | art3mis | i started back then around 98/99 |
| 03:56.43 | End | lol, kd3.is-a-geek.net |
| 03:56.47 | art3mis | then i switched to the folding@home |
| 03:57.07 | art3mis | now i run XP to use up my free cycles ;) |
| 03:57.08 | ccox | <-- folding@home |
| 03:57.09 | MentalPower | ccox: interesting, was this with the old software or the new boinc-based one? |
| 03:57.26 | ccox | MP - that was the old software, but the crew and attitudes haven't changed |
| 03:57.34 | MentalPower | point |
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| 04:06.12 | ccox | (if you really want to use up spare cycles, you could always install Vista) |
| 04:16.13 | batrick | that uses up spare memory tho too |
| 04:18.37 | AnduinLothar | i got 66% of my 4 cpu's idling with wow raiding... |
| 04:18.46 | AnduinLothar | i should turn on seti |
| 04:20.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | i ran prime95 on fullblast on a server we were using in my networking class |
| 04:20.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | and it wouldn't go over 50% on each core :( |
| 04:20.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | this was a good 5 years ago |
| 04:21.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | i ran 4 instances, each one with an affinity to each processor |
| 04:21.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, logical processor |
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| 04:28.29 | AnduinLothar | wow, i jut got supremus tank shoulders |
| 04:28.35 | AnduinLothar | none of the tanks wanted |
| 04:28.41 | AnduinLothar | all 4 thing t5 is better |
| 04:28.49 | AnduinLothar | think* |
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| 04:39.36 | MentalPower | gnight all |
| 04:39.42 | Industrial | nn |
| 04:40.00 | Iriel | AnduinLothar: Finally there's going to be decent video cards for the Mac Pro! |
| 04:40.07 | AnduinLothar | :) |
| 04:40.10 | Iriel | AnduinLothar: I just wish the 8800 would show p on the US store |
| 04:40.14 | AnduinLothar | u can sli them |
| 04:40.15 | Iriel | AnduinLothar: It's available in other countries 8-( |
| 04:40.51 | AnduinLothar | you didn't liek the old selection of cards? |
| 04:41.25 | Iriel | No.. Medocre, Overpriced and Noisy, Excessive |
| 04:41.33 | Iriel | the 3 old levels |
| 04:41.51 | Iriel | I dont /dislike/ my nvidia card, but it's a bit long in the tooth and sorta weak |
| 04:42.02 | Iriel | and I heard lots of ATI horror stories |
| 04:42.26 | AnduinLothar | i like my X1900 XT, but it has overheating issues due to crappy drivers |
| 04:42.39 | AnduinLothar | i just installed new drivers today that are pre-release |
| 04:43.36 | AnduinLothar | it seems to have fixed my graphical issues, but i still have the recent graphical flickers introduced by 10.5 |
| 04:44.05 | Iriel | I just need something with a bit more horsepower that's not noisy and wont overheat |
| 04:44.06 | AnduinLothar | at least i know it's not my ram |
| 04:44.16 | AnduinLothar | of course |
| 04:44.17 | Iriel | driving 2 monitors seems to be a bit much for the standard card |
| 04:44.33 | AnduinLothar | this is fixable i'm sure, just software issues. but for some reason they're drgging their feet |
| 04:44.48 | Iriel | Too busy getting the new machine out and prepping for mac world I suppose |
| 04:44.58 | Iriel | here's hoping for a january update for aperture too |
| 04:45.58 | Thunder_Child | I HAS RETURNED, much like Cairenn but not as grand |
| 04:46.05 | AnduinLothar | they're working on a new iphone, btu that's a diff dept |
| 04:46.08 | Cairenn | lol |
| 04:47.34 | AnduinLothar | ATI's mac drivers have been lagging behind now that it's owned by amd |
| 04:55.00 | End | oh, that's a lovely error! |
| 04:55.32 | End | Message: [string "*:OnLoad"] line 1: bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got nil) |
| 04:55.35 | End | Debug: |
| 04:55.36 | End | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:55.39 | End | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:55.41 | End | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:55.44 | End | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:55.57 | End | ...me thinks that frame should be given a name... |
| 04:56.12 | End | of course, I wouldn't have this problem if it had a name :P |
| 04:57.36 | Wobwork | http://ocr.pgpl.net/download.php?id=3 |
| 04:57.48 | Wobwork | dunno if that can be seen without logging in |
| 04:58.00 | Wobwork | ~imagehosting |
| 04:58.00 | purl | well, imagehosting is http://images.gammatester.com/ by the courtesy of cladhaire |
| 04:58.02 | End | I can see it |
| 04:58.06 | Wobwork | cool |
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| 05:13.26 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> #wowi-lounge: Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.3.x ToC: 20300 | Cladhaire is a lifless fsck |
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| 05:23.28 | batrick | hi Cairenn |
| 05:23.42 | Cairenn | hi batrick |
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| 05:44.26 | batrick | http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/01/08/ces.comcast.ap/index.html |
| 05:45.57 | |Jelly| | Shirik: Ping? |
| 05:48.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | Comcast says it will take just four minutes to download "Batman Begins" in high definition. |
| 05:48.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | why does this make me laugh |
| 05:49.37 | Thunder_Child | because you didnt know comcast was in the torrent buisness |
| 05:49.52 | Thunder_Child | business* |
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| 05:54.45 | art3mis | Roberts is expected to demonstrate a technology that delivers up to 160 megabits of data per second: It will allow him to download a high-definition copy of "Batman Begins" in four minutes. The technology, DOCSIS 3.0, will start rolling out this year. |
| 05:54.47 | art3mis | yeah |
| 05:54.50 | art3mis | thats amusing |
| 05:55.15 | art3mis | the line down a bit sayng taht cable only does 10mbit is funny too |
| 05:55.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | plus it's a plug for a movie |
| 05:55.23 | art3mis | compared to the 50mbit from FiOS |
| 05:55.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | at the same time |
| 05:55.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's like |
| 05:55.26 | Thunder_Child | iirc thats cables answer for FiOs |
| 05:55.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | layers upon layers of hilarity from comcast |
| 05:55.43 | art3mis | cable has 20for home and 30for business standard as is |
| 05:55.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | i absolutely cannot support comcast |
| 05:55.55 | art3mis | fios is only 50 if you're willing to pay the 249/mn for it |
| 05:56.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | comcast's max line is 10 if i recall |
| 05:56.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | it may have a 20 since i last checked |
| 05:56.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno |
| 05:56.15 | art3mis | hrm guess timewarner and optimum are better |
| 05:56.25 | art3mis | the latest commercial is hilarious |
| 05:56.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | my options for internet are |
| 05:56.55 | art3mis | has the verizon fiber light guy coming to the door and the cable customer saying "cable has bueen fibre for the last decade welcome to the party" |
| 05:57.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | 1) at&t (bellsouth) 2) earthlink (uses at&t lines, pricing, and speeds) 3) some local one that does the same 4) satellite 5) dialup |
| 05:58.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | i may have comcast now, but considering their recent policies and overall dislike for them i'd never use them |
| 05:59.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | at&t is basically old bellsouth which has been nothing but good for me |
| 05:59.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | earthlink's pretty nice but their support sucks majorly if something goes wrong |
| 06:02.42 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/342377/fcc-chairman-kicking-cable-and-wireless-ass-in-2008 |
| 06:02.50 | Corrodias | i'm just a love machine |
| 06:02.53 | Corrodias | and i won't work for nobody but you |
| 06:03.39 | Corrodias | my AT&T service is actually quite decent |
| 06:04.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, the service is pretty nice |
| 06:04.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | the customer support is hit or miss |
| 06:05.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | but luckily i don't need it often |
| 06:05.56 | Corrodias | i have fortunately had 100% constant connectivity and good performance on my DSL connection through AT&T/Yahoo for the last 8 months except ONE case where it went out for a couple of hours |
| 06:06.22 | Corrodias | actually, i don't remember how long it was. wasn't too long. |
| 06:07.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | you're old at&t, right? |
| 06:07.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | i.e. worldnet, or whatever? |
| 06:07.34 | Corrodias | i'm... Corr. :o |
| 06:07.43 | Thunder_Child | woo hoo, finally finished my 119GB torrent |
| 06:07.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | uh |
| 06:07.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mean |
| 06:07.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | you're not a grandfathered in bellsouth user |
| 06:07.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | you were at&t before the bellsouth merger? |
| 06:08.06 | Corrodias | i moved here 8 months ago and bought service from AT&T/Yahoo |
| 06:08.17 | Corrodias | never heard of bellsouth, i'm afraid |
| 06:08.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | at&t/yahoo and at&t fastaccess are different at the moment |
| 06:08.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | as far as i know |
| 06:08.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | how much you paying a month? |
| 06:09.16 | Corrodias | $35, for 6mbit down and something, probably 768 up |
| 06:11.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm paying $43 for 6mbit/512 |
| 06:11.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | so yeah |
| 06:11.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | different service for now |
| 06:11.39 | Thunder_Child | i pay $50 (including tax) for mb down and 3XX up |
| 06:11.47 | Thunder_Child | s/for/6mb/ |
| 06:11.51 | Thunder_Child | .... |
| 06:11.54 | Thunder_Child | i fail |
| 06:12.00 | Corrodias | smirk |
| 06:12.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | mines USD, btw |
| 06:12.11 | Corrodias | mine's pesos |
| 06:12.38 | Corrodias | nah, i'm kidding! |
| 06:13.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | california? |
| 06:13.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm tracking you down! |
| 06:13.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have you within 8 states, probably, maybe |
| 06:13.51 | Corrodias | so, my current name for my female orc warrior is Taikasa. |
| 06:13.56 | Corrodias | i don't think i can improve it further |
| 06:14.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have a female rogue named tampola |
| 06:14.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | for a one-man worst name contest |
| 06:14.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | i won. |
| 06:14.29 | Corrodias | it's like... tampon + crapola |
| 06:14.42 | Thunder_Child | i have a female shammy names totempheliac |
| 06:14.47 | Thunder_Child | named* |
| 06:15.36 | Corrodias | Taikasa sounds more like a troll name, really |
| 06:16.14 | Corrodias | but i'm hoping it'll withstand my attempts to feel comfortable with it in an orc |
| 06:16.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have a tauren shaman named beefshock |
| 06:16.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | ;o |
| 06:16.30 | Corrodias | ooo~ |
| 06:16.33 | reqol | so, to those of you who suggested vim; could you suggest some good tutorials to go with it? currently it seems fairly bland and I'd like to change that |
| 06:22.01 | Wobwork | bland? |
| 06:22.10 | Wobwork | <insert Monty Python Vorpal Bunny skit here> |
| 06:22.11 | malreth | don't use vim.. real programmers use ed |
| 06:22.37 | batrick | this may help you http://unm.edu/~batrick/files/vim_cheatsheet.pdf |
| 06:22.49 | batrick | gtfo malreth |
| 06:22.54 | batrick | ~malreth |
| 06:22.55 | purl | never take malreth seriously |
| 06:22.57 | batrick | ^ |
| 06:23.08 | malreth | rats... they're on to me! |
| 06:24.04 | malreth | that used to be my favorite thing to do to trainees at the Help Desk when i started teaching them how to use Unix |
| 06:24.21 | malreth | "how do i edit a file?" "oh... the command for that is 'ed'" |
| 06:24.53 | malreth | after 15 minutes, i'd tell them about another editor... 'vi' and that it stood for "visual editor" |
| 06:25.01 | malreth | after that... they loved vi |
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| 06:25.38 | batrick | poor kids |
| 06:26.14 | Wobwork | malreth: Sneaky |
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| 06:30.22 | kd3 | ed... |
| 06:34.00 | Thunder_Child | i like vi |
| 06:40.04 | Mike-N-Go | What is the minium level one may one of the lesser BC instances? |
| 06:41.06 | malreth | i think you can enter some of the hellfire ramparts at 58... but don't take that as gospel... |
| 06:41.50 | malreth | s/some of // |
| 06:46.15 | Wobwork | I think 57 |
| 06:46.20 | Wobwork | for ramparts |
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| 06:46.55 | Thunder_Child | hmm..i wonder if the 11 points are worth it for icy veins |
| 06:47.02 | a^i`SmaN | well, you have to be 58 at least to enter outlands |
| 06:47.03 | Thunder_Child | for a fire mage |
| 06:47.24 | Thunder_Child | a^i`SmaN, you can get ported in at 1 |
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| 06:47.55 | ScytheBlade1 | a^i`SmaN: you can be summoned or portd there at any level, only the gate requires level 58 |
| 06:47.57 | a^i`SmaN | oh that's true, didn't think about that :x |
| 06:48.03 | a^i`SmaN | silly me :s |
| 07:00.33 | Wobwork | okay |
| 07:00.51 | Wobwork | what is the longest length of time one can use a song before needing to pay royalties? |
| 07:00.58 | Wobwork | eg for a short advertisement |
| 07:05.39 | Thunder_Child | you mean lenght of a song? |
| 07:05.44 | Thunder_Child | length* |
| 07:05.48 | ScytheBlade1 | I think 30 seconds |
| 07:05.58 | ScytheBlade1 | But uh, don't come whining to me if you get sued becuase I'm wrong |
| 07:06.14 | Thunder_Child | 30 is most of a comercial as it is |
| 07:06.27 | Wobwork | Where could I find more info about it? |
| 07:06.38 | Thunder_Child | a royalt laywer |
| 07:06.44 | Thunder_Child | royalty* |
| 07:07.34 | Thunder_Child | Wobwork, i doubt it has it though http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap1.html |
| 07:08.16 | Thunder_Child | Wobwork, this btw i found to be a fun A Cappella http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQVEPFzkhaM |
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| 07:21.11 | Wobwork | hehe I remember that |
| 07:22.18 | Wobwork | Daft Hands is much cooler though |
| 07:25.13 | Thunder_Child | i dunno, i prefer daft bodies http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl6RJyZdBSU in particular |
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| 07:27.07 | Wobwork | only cause it has chicks in it =) |
| 07:29.06 | Thunder_Child | well, not JUST |
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| 07:29.20 | Wobwork | I guess though daft hands was first |
| 07:29.40 | Thunder_Child | i think so |
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| 07:30.47 | Wobwork | oh look |
| 07:30.50 | Wobwork | one without boxes |
| 07:30.53 | Wobwork | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytomADiHqaQ&feature=related |
| 07:31.38 | Thunder_Child | ya, but the other is better |
| 07:35.01 | cogwheel | ~lart3mis |
| 07:35.02 | purl | ACTION smacks art3mis upside the head just cuz |
| 07:36.28 | Wobwork | win |
| 07:38.36 | cogwheel | O.o |
| 07:38.38 | cogwheel | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3773253953&sid=1 |
| 07:38.41 | cogwheel | #10 |
| 07:38.55 | cogwheel | didn't grasp a single thing i mentioned... |
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| 07:42.27 | batrick | u know cog u can just add #10 to the end of the url and it points to that post rite? |
| 07:42.37 | cogwheel | yep |
| 07:42.47 | cogwheel | I just failed |
| 07:42.58 | cogwheel | write error ;) |
| 07:46.39 | cogwheel | batrick: u can also take off the &sid=1 to shave off a few chars |
| 07:48.33 | |Jelly| | I'd just like to announce that despite Kamdis wanting me to give Nitelily a 'second chance,' I still fucking hate him. |
| 07:49.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | whatd i miss |
| 07:49.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | delicious drama |
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| 07:55.54 | cogwheel | argh... |
| 07:56.35 | cogwheel | i'm trying to find a thread with a post by zootfizzle that doesn't have a post by me right near the end >< |
| 07:57.06 | cogwheel | and that has his new sig |
| 07:57.10 | cogwheel | "I never met a sprocket I didn't like!" |
| 07:57.29 | cogwheel | 'cause that means war imo |
| 07:57.32 | cogwheel | :P |
| 08:00.22 | batrick | http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/ that is the most epic picture of hillary |
| 08:01.42 | cogwheel | doesn't come close to the howard dean scream though |
| 08:01.50 | cogwheel | silly democrats :P |
| 08:03.26 | cogwheel | http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/offbeat/2007/11/14/lai.gas.ghost.woio?DPFPR=true |
| 08:03.32 | cogwheel | ^ stay in school, kids |
| 08:04.00 | cogwheel | first reaction should never be ghost |
| 08:05.30 | reqol | thanks for the cheatsheet batrick, but how do I use these hotkeys? they are all characters. just from looking at vim i can tell it is an unconventional editor, which isn't necessarily bad, but I'm guessing it has a learning curve |
| 08:07.37 | reqol | it's somewhat intimidating ;_; |
| 08:08.06 | cogwheel | like most aspects of the unix world :P |
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| 08:13.52 | batrick | reqol: it's unconvential, but u get to love it |
| 08:14.29 | Fisker- | you better watch out cogwheel |
| 08:14.30 | reqol | so why are there character hotkeys? I'm guessing there's some way to change modes or something |
| 08:14.39 | cogwheel | You know which will get my vote in emacs vs vim? |
| 08:14.52 | reqol | since you're stating so, I'm guessing emacs |
| 08:15.24 | cogwheel | Whichever one has a customized dvorak layout with a rewritten tutorial :P |
| 08:15.29 | Fisker- | fuck you automatic updates, i hit enter while it popped up for restart |
| 08:15.36 | cogwheel | bai |
| 08:15.42 | cogwheel | :P |
| 08:16.02 | batrick | reqol: there are three modes: insert, command, and visual |
| 08:16.20 | reqol | ...three? ;_; |
| 08:16.23 | batrick | command is typically where all those "hotkeys" are used |
| 08:16.25 | Maldivia | I so hate that auto update restart dialog |
| 08:16.29 | batrick | you'll usually be in insert :P |
| 08:16.38 | reqol | how do I change modes |
| 08:16.58 | batrick | well usually you use "i" to go into insert mode so you can type |
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| 08:17.12 | batrick | there are a couple ways, as you can see in the cheatsheet |
| 08:17.27 | batrick | command mode lets you manipulate the document among other things |
| 08:17.41 | batrick | e.g. deleting/copying lines |
| 08:18.02 | batrick | ESC let's you leave insert mode |
| 08:18.06 | batrick | back into command |
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| 08:19.41 | cogwheel | wb Fisker- |
| 08:19.45 | Fisker- | fu |
| 08:19.46 | cogwheel | have a good time? |
| 08:19.54 | cogwheel | :P |
| 08:20.06 | batrick | reqol: http://www.apmaths.uwo.ca/~xli/vim/quickstart.html looks decent |
| 08:20.32 | Fisker- | think i'll disabled automatic updates soon |
| 08:20.43 | Fisker- | they've also begun to just restart rather than just nag you |
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| 08:40.45 | Thunder_Child | true, unlike windows i dont bug him ALL the time |
| 08:41.08 | reqol | would it be better to make a table every OnLoad of a frame for the cities (appropriate for factions) or just have it done once and make it a saved variable per char? |
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| 08:45.24 | Juido | morning |
| 08:52.07 | cogwheel | eep |
| 08:52.09 | cogwheel | it is... |
| 08:53.43 | batrick | sleep is for the weak and unmotivated |
| 08:53.44 | Juido | may someone help with a api command ? how can i destroy a item from my inventory without to drag and drop? |
| 08:57.26 | batrick | DeleteCursorItem() |
| 08:57.43 | Juido | thx |
| 08:57.50 | batrick | yw |
| 09:02.46 | batrick | i just accidently installed a media player on my server /sigh |
| 09:03.46 | bleeter | must be something from the Win32 or OSX mentality that makes you assume that's failure ;) |
| 09:03.58 | Juido | is there something like "PickUpByName" ? i try to destroy a manastone by key without to use it |
| 09:04.35 | batrick | Juido: dont' think so, you have to itterate through all of the items and find it by name using ContainerItemInfo() or somesuch |
| 09:04.42 | batrick | unless you know where it always is :P |
| 09:05.06 | Juido | so i need to do a loop first to finde the bag slot that contain the manastone ? |
| 09:05.22 | batrick | bleeter: it wouldn't be failure if i could actually listen to music on it |
| 09:05.42 | batrick | it's graphical, so i can't do anything really clever anyway |
| 09:07.47 | bleeter | batrick: oh, a GUI driven media player on a server, yes, that's failure I hate to say :P |
| 09:08.28 | batrick | aye |
| 09:09.39 | reqol | how can I change the scaling of a fontstring object? |
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| 10:11.41 | reqol | soo....I take it inheriting SecureActionButtonTemplate and OptionsButtonTemplate does not work? |
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| 10:14.43 | bleeter | clad|sleep: could you get praid to show afk debuff? kthx |
| 10:15.47 | bleeter | clad|sleep: 'coz the map UI is such failure to see if someone's been reported afk |
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| 10:19.27 | reqol | I have a frame that inherits a virtual frame that inherits OptionsButtonTemplate and SecureActionButtonTemplate, in it's on load it calls a function which calls SetAttribute("type", "spell") SetAttribute("spell", "Portal: Shattrath City"). when clicked it does nothing |
| 10:19.55 | reqol | does optionsbuttontemplate conflict with secureactionbuttontemplate in any way? |
| 10:27.24 | reqol | no, it does in fact NOT conflict. |
| 10:33.41 | mikma | Fin: what was your site again? (the wow-addon list) |
| 10:35.01 | batrick | reqol what r u making |
| 10:41.34 | reqol | I am making myself a portal menu |
| 10:41.49 | reqol | I've got it working...mostly |
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| 10:41.56 | reqol | the buttons work, it's just the setup doesn't exactly work |
| 10:42.26 | reqol | would you mind taking a look at my files? the lua is only like 60 lines and the xml 160. it's probably something that i'm doing with the XML |
| 10:42.44 | reqol | in the past I've only set up things through lua, including frames to handle events, etc |
| 10:42.50 | reqol | so maybe the setup is whacky |
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| 10:49.57 | sag_ich_nicht | someone tell me what's going wrong here please: http://pastey.net/80376 |
| 10:52.18 | bleeter | omg a taint! and yer not screaming at iriel and flisher? |
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| 11:09.06 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter your sarcasm tag is broken |
| 11:10.11 | sag_ich_nicht | and no i'm not screaming at anyone because the intial flood of brokenness is gone, i would have asked Iriel why DoubleWide is showing up there, but Iriel isn't here :P |
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| 11:19.41 | bleeter | my sarcasm tag isn't broken, it was uneeded therefore unused :P |
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| 11:25.12 | reqol | my frame(which houses several secureactionbuttontemplate) will not show up in combat if prompted to. is this because it is not possible to do this, or is it tainting? |
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| 11:32.32 | sag_ich_nicht | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3773364525&sid=1 btw., looks like castsequence is breaking when the target is out of range |
| 11:32.57 | sag_ich_nicht | reqol: you can't show/hide secure frames in combat |
| 11:33.12 | sag_ich_nicht | or buttons for that matter |
| 11:33.21 | foxlit | "protected frames" |
| 11:33.27 | sag_ich_nicht | bite me |
| 11:33.36 | foxlit | Whether or not they are actually secure at that point doesn't matter :) |
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| 11:40.03 | reqol | how do you registerfordrag a shift right hold click? |
| 11:40.10 | reqol | err shift left hold click |
| 11:40.23 | Juido | hi all, is it possible to put a /script loop into a macro ? |
| 11:40.54 | reqol | yes, so long as you don't use a protected function |
| 11:40.57 | reqol | i.e. castspellbyname |
| 11:42.16 | Juido | i need to find a item of my inventory to destory it then |
| 11:42.33 | Juido | but i wont write an extra addon for it |
| 11:42.49 | Juido | all i need is to destroy a manstone if it exist |
| 11:43.33 | reqol | I'll write you a macro, just a moment |
| 11:45.27 | Juido | oh thank you a lot |
| 11:45.53 | reqol | what item are you looking for, exactly? |
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| 11:46.27 | clad|sleep | bleeter: the map UI is really easy to see who is afk.. btu either way |
| 11:46.33 | clad|sleep | sure it can show afk.. if you code it and submit a diff |
| 11:49.48 | Juido | @ reqol im looking for " Manasmaragd " |
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| 11:50.48 | reqol | what the hell is that? |
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| 11:51.49 | bleeter | damn, clad logged before I could debate the point |
| 11:52.37 | Juido | its the highest manastone a mage can conjure |
| 11:52.38 | reqol | bleeter: do you know how to registerfordrag a shift left hold click? |
| 11:52.46 | reqol | "Manasmaragd"? |
| 11:52.54 | Juido | german client |
| 11:52.58 | reqol | that is so awesome. |
| 11:53.05 | reqol | hold on |
| 11:53.05 | Juido | ^^ |
| 11:53.09 | reqol | it's done I just need to fix the /script parts |
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| 11:57.13 | Juido | since 2.3.2 the manasmaragd has a stack of 3 |
| 11:57.17 | reqol | how can you delete an item? |
| 11:57.22 | reqol | yeah, it's wonderful |
| 11:57.25 | bleeter | reqol: absolutely nothing |
| 11:57.37 | bleeter | cladhaire: can I debate the map UI point with you? |
| 11:57.41 | bleeter | *afk |
| 11:57.45 | Juido | but if you used 2, you need to destroy it first before you can conjure a new one |
| 11:57.52 | reqol | bleeter: was that to delete an item, or to the drag |
| 11:57.57 | cladhaire | not really, no |
| 11:58.04 | cladhaire | unless we're talking about absurd special cases |
| 11:58.11 | bleeter | < reqol> bleeter: do you know how to registerfordrag a shift left hold click? << absolutely nothing |
| 11:58.17 | cladhaire | however, why don't you just alter perfectraid to show the afk debuff |
| 11:58.23 | cladhaire | then you can see who has the debuff applied. |
| 11:58.27 | Juido | DeleteCursorItem @ reqol |
| 11:58.35 | cladhaire | if they were <AFK> |
| 11:58.43 | cladhaire | they wouldn't be in the battleground |
| 11:59.05 | Juido | @reqol : first PickupInventoryItem(slotId) then DeleteCursorItem() |
| 12:00.25 | reqol | juido: yeah, I figured that out |
| 12:00.33 | reqol | I was using pickupbagslot like a moron |
| 12:00.57 | cladhaire | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:01.02 | cladhaire | you register for drag on left-click |
| 12:01.08 | cladhaire | and then in your handler, only act on shift-click |
| 12:01.20 | reqol | juido: http://wowi.pastey.net/80380 |
| 12:01.25 | reqol | gonna use it myself, too |
| 12:01.36 | reqol | thanks cladhaire :D |
| 12:02.00 | Juido | thx reqol, will give it a try |
| 12:02.23 | reqol | I verified it worked for me, but it's possible the Manas... is wrong |
| 12:02.23 | cladhaire | you may want to look into modified clicks too |
| 12:02.24 | cladhaire | they're nifty |
| 12:02.28 | cladhaire | i don't fully understand them |
| 12:02.29 | cladhaire | but they do this too |
| 12:03.52 | reqol | so, I check if shift is held down? or is there API to check for a shift click |
| 12:04.04 | cladhaire | IsShiftClickDown() |
| 12:04.16 | cladhaire | Modified click allows you to check if your "modifier is down" |
| 12:04.26 | cladhaire | basically, you register shift-left click as a modified action called "MyClickDrag" or whatever |
| 12:04.38 | cladhaire | and then you can use IsModifiedClick("MyClickDrag") to check if your modifiers are currently held down |
| 12:04.41 | cladhaire | rather than hardcoding them |
| 12:04.42 | cladhaire | afaik |
| 12:09.41 | Juido | @reqol : works perfect. thank you very much |
| 12:09.44 | reqol | where do <Layers> have to be in a frame? I'm getting some serious validation errors ;_; |
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| 12:09.48 | reqol | no problem, glad it works |
| 12:10.34 | cladhaire | reqol: you can check the schema.. do you know how to do that? |
| 12:11.21 | reqol | yes. my question was a bit rhetorical since I think my placement is fine. |
| 12:11.25 | reqol | error is somewhere else I'm guessing |
| 12:11.49 | cladhaire | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/1e4be9ec2b38731317afb33a8c6dc777.png |
| 12:11.52 | cladhaire | relevant schema portion |
| 12:12.23 | cladhaire | it comes after <Size> and <Anchors> |
| 12:12.32 | reqol | thanks, that helps quite a bit |
| 12:12.39 | reqol | not just for the layers problem but as a quick reference guide |
| 12:15.22 | reqol | the <Layers> tag is after everything BUT the scripts |
| 12:15.25 | reqol | and it still gives me an error |
| 12:15.53 | reqol | there are no child frames, i'll check for attributes, but I don't think I have any, they are all defined in the <Button > tag |
| 12:19.59 | reqol | all better. |
| 12:20.17 | reqol | if you'd like to laugh at my misfortune and lack of sleep, I could tell you the problem, though it might aggravate you that I wasted your time. |
| 12:20.34 | reqol | I'll just go ahead and say it :normaltexturefile in wrong place |
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| 12:25.05 | reqol | IsShiftClickDown doesn't work for me |
| 12:25.12 | reqol | hmm |
| 12:26.30 | reqol | IsShiftKeyDown |
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| 12:31.38 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 12:31.38 | cladhaire | sorry |
| 12:33.37 | reqol | no problem, just a check ctrl+f on the wow api |
| 12:35.21 | reqol | ugh, the secure frame overview is not a help with multiple clicks. I j ust want a left click spell and a right click spell. |
| 12:35.59 | nevcairiel | *spell1 is left, *spell2 is right |
| 12:36.06 | nevcairiel | iirc :P |
| 12:36.15 | reqol | thanks |
| 12:36.37 | reqol | at the bottom there is a more in depth review, I only looked at the bottom of the bottom. bad to assume ;/ |
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| 12:49.19 | reqol | so if I'm registering for two spells, one on left click, one on right, I do SetAttribute("action-1", "*spell1") SetAttribute("*spell1", "myspellhere") ? |
| 12:49.27 | reqol | then repeat but action2 and *spell2 |
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| 12:53.53 | nevcairiel | reqol: no, you do :SetAttribute("type", "spell"); :SetAttribute("*spell1", "SpellName (Rank)") |
| 12:53.55 | nevcairiel | and repeat for 2 |
| 12:54.52 | nevcairiel | well, the type=spell you dont have to repeat :P |
| 12:55.31 | reqol | it doesn't work |
| 12:55.44 | nevcairiel | pastey your code? |
| 12:55.51 | reqol | okay |
| 12:55.55 | reqol | it's probably something I'm doing with the frame |
| 12:55.57 | reqol | it's a minimap button |
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| 12:57.42 | reqol | http://wowi.pastey.net/80382 |
| 12:57.47 | reqol | small addon i'm writing for myself |
| 12:59.08 | reqol | 100% certain the spells are correct |
| 12:59.14 | reqol | unless something really strange is happening and jarbling them |
| 12:59.41 | reqol | they're fine |
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| 13:10.18 | cladhaire | reqol: you can't override the OnClick of a SAB |
| 13:10.25 | cladhaire | if you do, the original SAB code is never called |
| 13:10.30 | cladhaire | so your spell never gets cast. |
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| 13:10.54 | cladhaire | will you ever use this button in combat?> |
| 13:10.59 | reqol | no |
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| 13:11.30 | nevcairiel | you could attach a custom function to the shift click |
| 13:11.32 | cladhaire | yep |
| 13:11.33 | nevcairiel | using the secure button |
| 13:11.36 | cladhaire | probably the easiest way to do it. |
| 13:11.43 | reqol | so wait...what am I doing? sorry ;_; |
| 13:11.54 | reqol | what's overriding it? the <OnClick> handlers? |
| 13:11.59 | cladhaire | yes |
| 13:12.05 | cladhaire | YOu can't have an <OnClick> for a secure action button |
| 13:13.12 | reqol | so how could I circumvent this? rather, how would I go about hooking a function to the shift clicks? |
| 13:13.28 | cladhaire | nevcairiel: just told you one way you can do it |
| 13:13.31 | cladhaire | without hooking or being nasty |
| 13:13.37 | nevcairiel | you can do :SetAttribute("shift-type", "mycustomhandler"); and create a function button:mycustomhandler() do stuff here end |
| 13:14.28 | reqol | okay, thanks! |
| 13:14.31 | nevcairiel | no one really knows that you can create your own types there |
| 13:15.03 | cladhaire | its a sekret |
| 13:15.14 | nevcairiel | i think its documented nowhere |
| 13:15.19 | nevcairiel | i found it in the source one day |
| 13:16.24 | reqol | so I can define this object handler in my lua file? Button:Myhandler essentially makes it so that it can be used with any button? |
| 13:16.50 | nevcairiel | you have to create the function on the object of the button |
| 13:17.26 | nevcairiel | like, "function MiniPort_MiniButton:MyHandler() -- code here -- end" |
| 13:17.29 | nevcairiel | somewhere in your code |
| 13:18.10 | cladhaire | I'm getting Unable to Validate Game Version on both EU and US. |
| 13:18.14 | cladhaire | has the EU patch gone out? |
| 13:18.17 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 13:18.20 | nevcairiel | i logged in too |
| 13:18.28 | cladhaire | no issues? |
| 13:18.34 | nevcairiel | not yet, no |
| 13:18.44 | nevcairiel | works fine on EU |
| 13:19.20 | cladhaire | =( |
| 13:19.20 | nevcairiel | start the launcer |
| 13:19.23 | nevcairiel | *launcher |
| 13:19.28 | nevcairiel | it'll apply the patch |
| 13:19.31 | cladhaire | i dont know which host my launcher connects to |
| 13:19.44 | cladhaire | heh |
| 13:19.49 | nevcairiel | get the patch from mmo-champion.com :P |
| 13:20.04 | nevcairiel | or i could dump that info with wireshark |
| 13:20.13 | cladhaire | nah i've got it now |
| 13:20.16 | cladhaire | just hoping it works :P |
| 13:20.45 | cladhaire | soon i won't need this bullshit =( |
| 13:20.49 | cladhaire | ssh tunneling to play wow |
| 13:20.52 | cladhaire | idiotic. |
| 13:21.13 | cladhaire | I need a way to run two versions of wow alongside each other |
| 13:21.18 | cladhaire | without ALL of the data files being repeated |
| 13:21.48 | wereHamster | why do you need ssh tunnels for that? |
| 13:22.15 | nevcairiel | cladhaire: hard-links? :) |
| 13:22.29 | cladhaire | 3724 outgoing is blocked |
| 13:22.30 | cladhaire | unconditionally |
| 13:22.35 | cladhaire | wow is not allowed at my college |
| 13:22.45 | nevcairiel | i guess common.mpq, expansion.mpq and all are the same for all languages |
| 13:23.02 | nevcairiel | you only need to have a seperate enGB and enUS directory |
| 13:23.17 | nevcairiel | hm, only patching will fail |
| 13:23.34 | reqol | how can I set this up and dump the function into a table? I can't index the MiniPort_MiniButton because it hasn't loaded yet, I want to set an onload function that creates the function in a table, but then how do I call it with setattribute? same way? |
| 13:24.11 | cladhaire | nevcairiel: yeah, I'd like to devise a way to share as much between two installs, but have the rest of them be distinct |
| 13:24.14 | cladhaire | so I can patch independently |
| 13:24.44 | nevcairiel | i guess common.mpq and expansion.mpq dont change on patches, but patch and patch-2 do, which are pretty big too already |
| 13:24.47 | nevcairiel | so .. good luck :P |
| 13:25.09 | cladhaire | common.MPQ and expansion.MPQ being linked saves me 5 gigs |
| 13:25.12 | cladhaire | wonder if I could just do that |
| 13:25.16 | cladhaire | and have the two exist independently |
| 13:25.25 | cladhaire | so install the enGB client |
| 13:25.31 | cladhaire | link those two files |
| 13:25.53 | cladhaire | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/734979e1d9878ec41a93214404a60497.png |
| 13:26.04 | cladhaire | the big one to the left of the highlighted one is common.mpq |
| 13:26.10 | cladhaire | so that'd be a good chunk of change :P |
| 13:28.42 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 13:31.44 | Lopeppeppy | I am in heaven.... my building lobby is full of earnest young men in uniforms all wanting to reassure me that the security exercises being conducted today are perfectly safe, although noisy.... |
| 13:34.35 | Kalroth | hahah |
| 13:35.39 | Lopeppeppy | Yummy, yummy, yummy. About time some karma swung my way. |
| 13:36.51 | reqol | how can you define an object method in a variable? normally I do it like thevariable = function() stuff end |
| 13:36.59 | reqol | rather, a normal function |
| 13:37.38 | nevcairiel | object.variable = function() ? :) |
| 13:38.37 | reqol | so for the previous example: MiniPort_MiniButton.ShiftHandler = function() stuff here end would then would with SetAttribute(_,"ShiftHandler")? |
| 13:39.00 | reqol | s/would then would/would then work/ |
| 13:39.12 | reqol | i'm getting sleep right after this... |
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| 13:39.39 | Lopeppeppy | Sleep is for the weak. The sane, well-adjusted weak, but the weak nevertheless. :P |
| 13:39.43 | nevcairiel | if SetAttribute("type" is what you mean and not _ :P |
| 13:39.48 | reqol | yes |
| 13:40.03 | nevcairiel | thats the theory at least |
| 13:41.39 | reqol | thanks for all the help! I'll have to try it in a few hours, gotta get some sleep. appreciate it :D |
| 13:42.47 | cladhaire | i need to re-scan the api for 2.3.2 |
| 13:42.48 | cladhaire | =( |
| 13:43.21 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, that doesn't sound like a lot of fun, cladhaire! |
| 13:43.49 | cladhaire | it depends |
| 13:43.55 | cladhaire | i just can't afford to get behind with the boko |
| 13:43.59 | cladhaire | but that process isn't fully automated yet |
| 13:44.00 | cladhaire | O.o |
| 13:44.24 | cladhaire | can I download the WoW clients from mmo-champion? |
| 13:44.36 | nevcairiel | dont think so |
| 13:44.41 | nevcairiel | only the latest patches |
| 13:45.11 | cladhaire | meh i'm not gonna eff wiht it now |
| 13:45.13 | cladhaire | too much else to do |
| 13:46.06 | Shirik | you can download it from wow.com... |
| 13:46.59 | Lopeppeppy | I seem to remember links on the right side of the WoW home page, and/or on the Account Management page. |
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| 13:47.50 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 13:47.53 | cladhaire | my net connection is shit at the moment |
| 13:47.57 | cladhaire | not sure if i wanna eff with it |
| 13:48.02 | cladhaire | especially considering i can't torrent it. |
| 13:48.42 | cladhaire | i have CD's I coul use |
| 13:48.45 | cladhaire | all 5 of them =( |
| 13:48.56 | nevcairiel | ..but? |
| 13:48.57 | cladhaire | maybe i'll borrow Tom's DVDs :P |
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| 13:49.13 | cladhaire | he got WOW/BC for only £17.00 |
| 13:49.13 | cladhaire | bastard |
| 13:49.19 | cladhaire | oh well |
| 13:49.22 | cladhaire | shower than back to editing. |
| 13:49.48 | cladhaire | but what? |
| 13:50.05 | nevcairiel | whats wrong with the CDs? |
| 13:50.12 | cladhaire | i have to change them |
| 13:50.15 | cladhaire | and they take a long time :p |
| 13:50.18 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 13:50.23 | cladhaire | he has the battle chest |
| 13:50.26 | cladhaire | so the DVD is easier imo |
| 13:50.37 | cladhaire | i have teh enUS client |
| 13:50.42 | cladhaire | I just want the europe client :P |
| 13:50.48 | nevcairiel | i created a DVD once |
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| 13:51.01 | cladhaire | lol |
| 13:51.04 | nevcairiel | not that i reinstall it that often |
| 13:51.05 | cladhaire | ONCE |
| 13:51.33 | nevcairiel | i created a WoW+BC DVD once .. :P |
| 13:54.03 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/prioriteetti2.jpg |
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| 13:55.10 | cladhaire | hrm this'll be interesting |
| 13:55.17 | cladhaire | wonder how much is different between WoW and TBC |
| 13:55.21 | cladhaire | as far as the mpqs go :P |
| 13:55.31 | cladhaire | in theory common.mpq should be the same |
| 13:55.35 | nevcairiel | TBC totally rearranged the mpq layout |
| 13:55.42 | cladhaire | TBC or 2.0? |
| 13:55.43 | Lopeppeppy | Theory is.... fun. |
| 13:55.47 | nevcairiel | well, 2.0 |
| 13:55.49 | End | nevcairiel: he doesn't mean from 1.0 to 2.0 |
| 13:55.50 | cladhaire | ;P |
| 13:55.57 | cladhaire | there's a big difference between 2.0 and TBC |
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| 14:06.27 | malreth | don't do it! superpoke is a trap! |
| 14:07.24 | Lopeppeppy | malreth, you're weirder than I am. |
| 14:07.37 | malreth | ZZZZZZzzzzzzzzz... |
| 14:08.29 | Lopeppeppy | I'm sure. *laugh* |
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| 14:09.05 | Lunessa | ... lifless! |
| 14:09.18 | Lopeppeppy | What? |
| 14:10.49 | Lopeppeppy | Oh.... I see.... I should read upward more often! |
| 14:10.54 | Lunessa | Good morning sunshine. |
| 14:11.05 | malreth | http://bp2.blogger.com/_pNJFZtinpKY/R4P_R2--dpI/AAAAAAAACtM/-sYWhpfkBzM/s1600-h/slash+and+gates.jpg |
| 14:11.40 | Cide | that's awesome |
| 14:11.41 | Lunessa | Bill Gates... 'illest' mother-f'er in a cardigan sweater? |
| 14:12.35 | malreth | "I got a cock like a donkey hard as a rock and a trigger finger itchier than chicken pox..." |
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| 14:12.59 | malreth | oh snap! pg-13! |
| 14:13.15 | malreth | Cairenn is going to have me drawn and quartered |
| 14:13.17 | malreth | again |
| 14:13.38 | Lopeppeppy | You'd think you'd get tired of that, masochist. |
| 14:13.57 | Lunessa | He doesn't. |
| 14:14.11 | malreth | Lunessa's right... |
| 14:14.45 | Lopeppeppy | My boss was a hostage, my boss was a hostage!! |
| 14:14.51 | Lopeppeppy | ... why didn't they keep him? *sigh* |
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| 14:18.17 | Lunessa | malreth: someone here actually just used the word "dude" in serious conversation. |
| 14:18.32 | malreth | :O |
| 14:18.41 | malreth | is his car, like, missing? |
| 14:18.48 | Lunessa | She said to me, "Dude. That TOTALLY wasn't there when I looked before." |
| 14:19.30 | Lopeppeppy | Like, fer sher? |
| 14:20.09 | Lunessa | *shrug* She's liike, totally, yaknaow? |
| 14:20.28 | Lopeppeppy | Gag me with a spoon, and get OUT of here!! |
| 14:21.01 | Lunessa | fer shure, fer shure. |
| 14:23.08 | Lunessa | ... I highly recommend picking one up up if you have the means. It's so choice. |
| 14:24.08 | Lunessa | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic |
| 14:24.20 | malreth | i bought rez for the PS2 |
| 14:24.26 | malreth | never got the trance vibrator |
| 14:24.36 | malreth | awesome game |
| 14:25.22 | Lunessa | that games is the shiz. |
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| 14:27.02 | Lunessa | I never cared about wining. Only the cool noises and music it made. |
| 14:27.28 | malreth | i played the crap outta that game |
| 14:27.33 | Lopeppeppy | .... |
| 14:27.34 | malreth | unlocked almost everything |
| 14:30.50 | Lunessa | now I get the macarena reference. |
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| 14:54.00 | mikma | didn't bela say he's about to take over NECB? |
| 14:54.15 | Lopeppeppy | I believe I saw that on the NECB page, yes. |
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| 15:23.34 | Lunessa | "We're just that good. No really. We are. :)" ~malreth |
| 15:23.56 | malreth | yeah... that guy is smoking crack |
| 15:24.11 | malreth | "how can anyone write code without documentation?" |
| 15:24.22 | malreth | and then it turns out he's not even writing lua |
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| 15:26.10 | Lunessa | Yeah. Seriously. You extract the UI kit and read the code. It's not that hard. |
| 15:29.13 | Lunessa | I guess I'm just too white and nerdy. I mean, one of my guildees asked a question and I explained the code changes. Which prompted the question, "WTF? Do you just read the code when a new patch comes out?" -- doesn't /everyone/ ? |
| 15:29.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Haha. Win. |
| 15:32.33 | Lunessa | Imagine there's no macros. It isn't hard to do. No lua code, no AddOns too. Imagine all the players, playing with the default ui. You might say I'm evil, but I'm not the only one. ... |
| 15:33.06 | malreth | [APPLAUSE] |
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| 15:35.53 | Matrix110 | I wouldve already quitted i think without Addons :P |
| 15:36.02 | Matrix110 | Alone because the default UI is so damn ugly |
| 15:36.57 | malreth | i love apple remote desktop |
| 15:37.19 | malreth | makes my job as a lab technician so much more convenient |
| 15:37.39 | malreth | i can update my sites from a couch in a coffee shop |
| 15:38.15 | Lunessa | mal if you're at Epoch having coffee I'm going to drive up and poor sugar in your gas tank. |
| 15:38.38 | malreth | i'm not at epoch |
| 15:38.56 | malreth | many of our servers here are filtered at the border |
| 15:39.05 | malreth | and the vpn is teh sux |
| 15:39.12 | malreth | slow... so sloow |
| 15:39.16 | Lunessa | slow. |
| 15:39.17 | mikma | play poker instead |
| 15:39.28 | mikma | http://www.pokerth.net |
| 15:40.04 | malreth | never really got into poker |
| 15:40.09 | malreth | i like Go, however |
| 15:40.21 | malreth | i suck at it... but i really like the game |
| 15:40.49 | Lunessa | I want to learn to play that. |
| 15:40.52 | mikma | well open source poker is a good way to train it heh |
| 15:40.57 | malreth | i'm rated at something pitiful like 18k on KGS... |
| 15:41.09 | mikma | and, that one supports local games (adds 6 computerplayers in the table) |
| 15:41.53 | Lunessa | I know how to play poker. I meant GO |
| 15:42.07 | mikma | ah |
| 15:42.37 | malreth | Lunessa: http://playgo.to/interactive/ |
| 15:42.54 | Lunessa | thanks |
| 15:43.12 | malreth | probably the best site i've found for learning Go |
| 15:43.22 | malreth | it teaches you the three basic rules |
| 15:43.41 | malreth | then drops in the other two rules but only when they're necessary |
| 15:44.18 | malreth | then gradually leads you through the infinite complexity brought about by all of that |
| 15:47.28 | sag_ich_nicht | brb reboot |
| 15:48.00 | Lunessa | I like positional strategy games. Chess, Go, Reversi, etc. |
| 15:48.13 | Lunessa | I'm not good at them, but I love them. |
| 15:48.51 | krka | what's your favorite position....al strategy game then? |
| 15:49.24 | malreth | krka, do you know what vore is? |
| 15:49.40 | krka | not really no |
| 15:49.55 | malreth | ~wiki vorarephilia |
| 15:51.24 | krka | that's some weird shit... why did you bring it up? |
| 15:52.36 | Lunessa | krka ... I have a favorite, but I'm not mentioning it in a public channel. *wink* And I think your plumbing is all wrong for me anyway. *wink-wink*nudge-nudge* |
| 15:53.20 | malreth | krka: because of this... http://go-girly.com/go/510 |
| 15:55.24 | krka | you already mentioned go, chess, reversi, just say which one is your favorite! |
| 15:55.30 | krka | malreth: sfw? |
| 15:55.37 | malreth | it is |
| 15:55.46 | malreth | this i swear |
| 15:56.00 | Lunessa | chess - even though I'm terrible. |
| 15:56.35 | krka | weird comic |
| 15:56.43 | art3mis | my wife is so special when shes asleep |
| 15:57.10 | art3mis | my phone was sitting on the night table and she wakes up and walks into the living room to tell me my phone is ringing instead of just bringing it to me on her way out |
| 15:58.12 | krka | why is that special when she's _asleep_ |
| 15:58.41 | art3mis | partially asleep |
| 15:59.26 | art3mis | oddly enough she does that when shes wide awake too.. if i forget my phone out here and go lay down shell come in and wake me up to tell me my phone was rining |
| 15:59.29 | art3mis | ringing |
| 15:59.48 | krka | so basically you just meant: "my wife is so special" :) |
| 16:01.51 | art3mis | heh yeah |
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| 16:04.02 | malreth | too cute! http://www.wowinsider.com/gallery/clay-dolls-from-maidemao-1/558133/ |
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| 16:13.47 | sag_ich_nicht | hm |
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| 16:31.48 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3773364525&sid=1&pageNo=3#51 <-- just saw that... a haha |
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| 16:45.04 | malreth | has anyone had a problem with Ventrilo not picking up the PTT key when it's no longer the front-most application? i spent an entire raid last night not being able to speak or use the G-keys on my G15. |
| 16:45.32 | Bela|work | malreth: Vista? |
| 16:45.40 | malreth | yes |
| 16:45.43 | Bela|work | run as admin |
| 16:45.47 | malreth | i do |
| 16:45.49 | Bela|work | I have the same problem otherwise |
| 16:45.54 | Bela|work | weird |
| 16:45.59 | Bela|work | mine works if I run as admin |
| 16:46.00 | malreth | run vent as admin? |
| 16:46.03 | Bela|work | aye |
| 16:46.22 | malreth | odd thing is it worked fine the day before |
| 16:46.28 | Bela|work | its spotty |
| 16:46.41 | Lunessa | malreth: Vista makes me beat my head against the table. |
| 16:46.48 | malreth | see... i don't like that term, "spotty" |
| 16:47.03 | malreth | either privs are elevated or not |
| 16:47.05 | Cide | vista is awesome |
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| 16:47.12 | malreth | they should be very deterministic |
| 16:47.15 | malreth | and not spotty |
| 16:47.16 | Lunessa | I have to reinstall AVG almost every other day because "the update process could not be initialized" |
| 16:47.16 | Cide | malreth: and they are |
| 16:47.25 | Cide | Lunessa: blame AVG, not vista. |
| 16:47.26 | Bela|work | thats just it |
| 16:47.29 | Bela|work | you can't blame Vista |
| 16:47.46 | Bela|work | my avg works great in vista |
| 16:47.53 | Cide | for the first time, windows has a decent security model |
| 16:47.58 | Cide | and people blame it for not working |
| 16:48.01 | Bela|work | not perfect |
| 16:48.03 | Bela|work | but better |
| 16:48.13 | Cide | nothing is perfect, but it's a huge step forward |
| 16:48.25 | Bela|work | thats why I get kind of annoyed at all these sites out there that say "TURN OFF UAC! It fixes ALL your problem!" |
| 16:48.25 | Intangir | vista is gay |
| 16:48.32 | Cide | but the problem lies with the software vendors who can't put out code that works with it |
| 16:48.35 | Intangir | ventrilo ptt buttons work fine for me ON LINUX |
| 16:48.37 | Cide | Intangir: sigh. why? |
| 16:48.39 | Cide | grats? |
| 16:48.39 | Bela|work | I personally like UAC |
| 16:48.40 | Intangir | but it wont work for people on vista ;) |
| 16:48.41 | Intangir | hahahaha |
| 16:48.45 | Lunessa | It works solidly for 2-3 days, then dies. IE decided at some point that it couldn't run until I made it Administrator |
| 16:48.45 | Intangir | i laugh at that |
| 16:49.01 | Cide | maybe ventrilo should fix it |
| 16:49.13 | kergoth | UAC isnt a bad idea, i just dislike the implementation |
| 16:49.17 | Intangir | ventrilo should fix vista? |
| 16:49.24 | Cide | Lunessa: IE is shit, I give you that |
| 16:49.25 | Bela|work | its vent's fault for not utilizing the privilege elevation model correctly |
| 16:49.28 | kergoth | comodo firewall has the same sort of features, but give you more flexibility |
| 16:49.39 | Cide | Intangir: ventrilo should fix its own code - why blame vista because ventrilo doesn't code properly? |
| 16:49.43 | malreth | well then.. in that respect, i wonder what ventrilo did differently last night that cause it to not work anymore |
| 16:49.44 | Bela|work | kergoth: sp1 should fix that |
| 16:49.52 | Fisker- | OH U Cide |
| 16:49.53 | Bela|work | they are streamlining it a lot |
| 16:50.03 | Bela|work | less prompts, same security |
| 16:50.05 | Fisker- | atleast i'm not using Firefox |
| 16:50.07 | kergoth | ah, nice |
| 16:50.15 | Intangir | so everytime windows trys to reinvent itself with new reqs, all hardware and software should update themselves so that it can be used on an OS that offers nothing functionally new? |
| 16:50.27 | Intangir | while they do NOTHING to work on linux and it just works cause the developers of the OS/apps accomadate for it |
| 16:50.30 | Bela|work | I think so yes |
| 16:50.34 | Intangir | with tons of new features/functionality |
| 16:50.37 | Bela|work | software has ALWAYS driven hardware |
| 16:50.39 | Bela|work | that is nothing new |
| 16:50.40 | Intangir | you seem to be missing the point of an operating system |
| 16:50.42 | Cide | it's the first time windows has ever invented new reqs |
| 16:50.44 | Fisker- | there's new functionality in Vista |
| 16:50.45 | Fisker- | duh |
| 16:50.55 | Cide | vista is the only operating system that has tried to maintain backwards functionality for third party vendors more or less |
| 16:51.00 | Cide | linux? hell no |
| 16:51.02 | Intangir | windows has invented new reqs EVERY VERSION |
| 16:51.06 | Cide | no they haven't |
| 16:51.14 | Intangir | yes, they have |
| 16:51.14 | Bela|work | and you can hardly fault MS for vista |
| 16:51.15 | Cide | name one |
| 16:51.18 | Bela|work | it was needed |
| 16:51.24 | End | last I tried, the old ass loki installer still worked at least :P |
| 16:51.30 | Bela|work | AND they gave dompanies LOTS of notice and plenty of docs about it |
| 16:51.39 | End | (granted, it's probably statically built) |
| 16:51.41 | Bela|work | so they could update beforehand |
| 16:51.42 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 16:51.52 | Intangir | vista doesnt maintain backward compatibility for shit |
| 16:51.56 | Cide | EXACTLY |
| 16:51.57 | End | (but I hear glibc is silly due to all the backwards compatibility it has in it) |
| 16:51.58 | Bela|work | good |
| 16:51.58 | Fisker- | Companies even went so far to halt a lot of the progress |
| 16:52.00 | Cide | every other windows version has |
| 16:52.02 | Intangir | my old dos games run better on linux than any version of windows past 98 |
| 16:52.03 | Cide | what's your point? |
| 16:52.05 | Bela|work | I don't want backwards compatibility |
| 16:52.12 | Bela|work | if I wanted that, I would dual box xp |
| 16:52.17 | Cide | linux doesn't have backwards compat worth a shit |
| 16:52.20 | Fisker- | Windows were actually to be more like linux |
| 16:52.27 | End | anyways, I think third party -is- a big problem here...everyone is used to being administrator on windows |
| 16:52.29 | Bela|work | they hired a linux developer |
| 16:52.30 | Fisker- | in terms of the filesystem |
| 16:52.33 | Cide | if they want to rewrite the kernal, so what if tons of software breaks? |
| 16:52.33 | Bela|work | to help on vista |
| 16:52.34 | Fisker- | atleast |
| 16:52.38 | Cide | s/kernal/kernel/ |
| 16:52.43 | Intangir | vista sucks, period, if offers nothing new other than headaches, linux GIVES overthing for free, and it works better for me |
| 16:52.50 | Intangir | less arbitrary hassle |
| 16:52.51 | |pez| | waha, Freezing trap is no longer limited to one target at a time :D |
| 16:52.52 | Bela|work | correction: it sucks for YOU |
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| 16:52.56 | Bela|work | not period |
| 16:52.59 | Cide | Intangir: I like your argument. it sucks period. |
| 16:53.03 | kergoth | vista has all sorts of nifty new features over xp |
| 16:53.04 | Intangir | it does |
| 16:53.04 | Cide | wonderful. |
| 16:53.07 | Intangir | why do you argue it |
| 16:53.08 | kergoth | the start menu wipes the floor with xp's |
| 16:53.11 | Cide | no; in your opinion it does |
| 16:53.11 | Intangir | its common knowledge |
| 16:53.15 | Cide | I offer arguments, you offer stupidity |
| 16:53.17 | kergoth | the sound mixer allows per app volume control, which is excellent |
| 16:53.22 | Cide | just shut up before you make yourself into an even bigger fool |
| 16:53.26 | Fisker- | funny |
| 16:53.27 | Bela|work | because I use 32bit vista at work, and 64bit at home, and I love both |
| 16:53.30 | Fisker- | "Common knowledge"# |
| 16:53.32 | Bela|work | I have had NO issues adapting |
| 16:53.35 | malreth | people who use linux are just fooling themselves. they all really want to use Mac OS X... A UNIX actually done right |
| 16:53.38 | Fisker- | at the moment there's atleast 3 vs. 1 |
| 16:53.43 | Intangir | your the one making personal insults, those arent arguments, thats being an asshole |
| 16:53.44 | Bela|work | and to say it sucks is just close-minded |
| 16:53.50 | Cide | Intangir: what personal insults? quotes |
| 16:53.50 | Fisker- | so as you can see 25% is not common knowledge |
| 16:53.52 | Fisker- | sorry :( |
| 16:54.01 | Intangir | are you serious? |
| 16:54.06 | Intangir | +Cide> just shut up before you make yourself into an even bigger fool |
| 16:54.06 | Cide | sure. |
| 16:54.13 | Intangir | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:54.17 | Intangir | the last 2 things you said |
| 16:54.20 | Cide | right |
| 16:54.39 | Cide | that was because you failed to offer any reasonable arguments, while I had offered you a handful |
| 16:54.40 | Bela|work | I can see vista being hard to use for Grandma, and your average joe that has to be reminded how to use a mouse 3 times a week |
| 16:54.49 | Cide | and yet you argued that you're right "just because." |
| 16:54.51 | Bela|work | but that hardly describes anyone in this channel |
| 16:54.53 | Bela|work | I hope |
| 16:55.14 | End | actually, one complaint I have with each new version of windows is they keep moving things around (like the control panel) :P |
| 16:55.15 | cogwheel | Cairenn|afk: or dolby-wowi: could you please move http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5300-Lua5.1.1WoW.html to outdated mods? I'm making the sourceforge page its primary outlet... |
| 16:55.24 | Fisker- | ONe might say in terms of what Vista was supposed to be it was a failure |
| 16:55.25 | Cide | <Intangir> vista sucks, period, if offers nothing new other than headaches |
| 16:55.33 | Cide | <Intangir> windows has invented new reqs EVERY VERSION |
| 16:55.34 | Intangir | oh i forgot pretty colors |
| 16:55.35 | Intangir | my bad |
| 16:55.35 | Cide | ^ name one? |
| 16:55.59 | Intangir | vista changed alot of the protections stuff, so did XP, so did 2k |
| 16:56.00 | Cide | <Intangir> vista is gay |
| 16:56.03 | Intangir | so did NT4 |
| 16:56.05 | cogwheel | vista's fine |
| 16:56.16 | End | Your face is gay! |
| 16:56.19 | End | oh burn |
| 16:56.21 | Intangir | vista is gay, who here actually ran out and bought it? or did it come on a PC |
| 16:56.23 | cogwheel | nearly all the problems are due to developers not following best practices in XP |
| 16:56.44 | wereHamster | I partly agree with intangir. I had bought a brand new lenovo laptop, preinstalled vista. Vista was slow as hell. after each click I literally had to wait a second until the OS actually performed the action. That on a brand new laptop. for me, vista failed big time |
| 16:56.46 | malreth | i bought it |
| 16:56.51 | kergoth | i'd buy it if i could afford it, i'm low on cash lately |
| 16:56.54 | kergoth | heh |
| 16:57.01 | Cide | Intangir: specify the 'protections stuff', given that nothing changed for any application. chanting "vista is gay" doesn't make it gay |
| 16:57.06 | Bela|work | thats because OEM are morons |
| 16:57.07 | End | my university provides it :P |
| 16:57.14 | nevcairiel | wereHamster: thats not vista, thats "pre-installed", install a clean vista, and you will be happy. |
| 16:57.15 | End | but ...I'm not using it |
| 16:57.23 | Bela|work | they sell you the low budget vista machine that can barely run vista |
| 16:57.27 | Intangir | wereHamster: careful dont make a fool ofyourself ;) cide is lord you will agree with him or be flamed |
| 16:57.29 | Bela|work | but it hardly gives you a good experience |
| 16:57.33 | End | (then again, I wouldn't want to run it until I get a new machine) |
| 16:57.34 | kergoth | naturally my wow fps is a little lower on vista, but i'm sure thats due to the vista drivers not being optimized yet, just a matter of time |
| 16:57.36 | Cide | what? |
| 16:58.01 | malreth | Intangir: as opposed to you... if we don't all agree with you, you'll just keep flooding the channel with your drivel |
| 16:58.08 | malreth | now go on |
| 16:58.10 | malreth | keep talking |
| 16:58.11 | Bela|work | Intangir: we are all stating opinion here. Cide will tell you that himself. Please refrain from insults if you can |
| 16:58.12 | malreth | i know you will |
| 16:58.17 | Intangir | i stated an opinion, which im entitled to have |
| 16:58.18 | Cide | he gives reasons for his opinion, he doesn't say "vista sucks, period." - he says "vista sucks *FOR ME*, because __.", which is perfectly valid |
| 16:58.21 | Intangir | then i was personally attacked |
| 16:58.23 | Bela|work | yes you are |
| 16:58.26 | Intangir | then i defended against the personal attack |
| 16:58.28 | Fisker- | No |
| 16:58.28 | Intangir | this isnt drivel |
| 16:58.29 | Bela|work | and we are entitiled to counterpoint |
| 16:58.33 | Fisker- | You stated an opinion as a fact |
| 16:58.34 | Bela|work | don't get bent out of shape about it |
| 16:58.38 | Intangir | if you dont want to hear it, disaaree dont insult ME cause i insulted your precious OS |
| 16:58.46 | Cide | I insulted you, yes. |
| 16:58.48 | Fisker- | <Intangir> windows has invented new reqs EVERY VERSION <-NOT opinion, but fact |
| 16:58.56 | Bela|work | so far I haven't seen any insults pointed towards you |
| 16:58.56 | Fisker- | i.e. it's not nessecarily a fact |
| 16:59.00 | Fisker- | but you present it as such |
| 16:59.04 | Intangir | fuck this your all hypocrits |
| 16:59.05 | Bela|work | unless you consider us disagreeing an insult |
| 16:59.06 | Cide | because your failure to bring up arguments for your opinion is laughable at best |
| 16:59.08 | Intangir | it has new reqs |
| 16:59.11 | Fisker- | 2+2 = 5 is wrong regardless of what my opinion is |
| 16:59.17 | malreth | Bela|work: oh no... i'll point some insults at him |
| 16:59.17 | Cide | vista has new reqs, yes indeed |
| 16:59.17 | Bela|work | agreed |
| 16:59.19 | Fisker- | unless i can actually prove new math |
| 16:59.21 | Intangir | it would take a day or 2 to document them all and im not going to do that AGAIN to satisfy some piece of shit on IRC |
| 16:59.25 | Cide | I've never argued that point |
| 16:59.26 | kergoth | Intangir: laughing at your inability to form a logical argument isn't hypocracy, sorry |
| 16:59.28 | Lunessa | Intangir: Same rant, different topic. How's your presidential candidate doing? |
| 16:59.28 | Intangir | im a programmer, and every new version screws you around |
| 16:59.35 | Intangir | adds a ton of new shit to certain parts of the APIs |
| 16:59.41 | nevcairiel | Fisker-: not necessarily if you twist some rules around :P |
| 16:59.44 | Cide | but no other versions have had many new reqs at all |
| 16:59.46 | malreth | you're not a programmer... programmers have balls |
| 16:59.47 | Intangir | like directX arbitrarily requireing vista 10 even though it runs fine on XP |
| 16:59.54 | End | Intangir: I wouldn't call them invented...you could make an argument that they're a result of Windows not being able to function on lesser hardware however |
| 16:59.55 | Fisker- | lol |
| 16:59.55 | malreth | except for Lopeppeppy |
| 17:00.02 | Intangir | fuck all of you |
| 17:00.03 | Cide | Intangir: that's a directx issue, not a vista one |
| 17:00.05 | zenzelezz | Vista 10? |
| 17:00.06 | Bela|work | I think I can sum this up for you: you don't like vista for requiring people to conform to a new standard. We like vista for the exact reason you don't. End-point |
| 17:00.09 | malreth | yes... fuck us |
| 17:00.15 | Intangir | fuck you malreth cide, and everyone else who wants to personally attack and shit on me for having an opinion |
| 17:00.17 | Fisker- | it appears the "programmer" doesn't really know anything after all |
| 17:00.25 | Lonny | Intangir you're funny. |
| 17:00.25 | malreth | you must love this abuse... you keep coming here for it |
| 17:00.26 | Intangir | it would be impossible to waste my time trying to counter all the SHIT your flinging at me |
| 17:00.27 | cogwheel | Intangir: so present it as opinion |
| 17:00.29 | Fisker- | It's possible to get similar effects to DX10 on DX9 |
| 17:00.29 | Cide | Intangir: you're entitled to have an opinion |
| 17:00.32 | cogwheel | instead of saying it's gay |
| 17:00.37 | cogwheel | or bad |
| 17:00.39 | Intangir | SO FUCK ALL OF YOU AND LEARN HOW TO NOT BE A FUCKING TOTAL COCK SUCKER |
| 17:00.40 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Intangir (i=Intangir@c-98-197-209-214.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) |
| 17:00.41 | Lunessa | Anyway, to get back to my point. my Vista Home Premium clean install does some things I don't understand yet,. But the whole point of installing it was to learn. The process is just more frustrating that I expected. |
| 17:00.42 | Cide | Intangir: but if you want to state it as facts, at least back them up with sources or arguments |
| 17:00.44 | End | wow! |
| 17:00.47 | malreth | HA HA HA!!! |
| 17:00.48 | zenzelezz | do we ever have three weeks without Intangir blowing up? |
| 17:00.49 | Lonny | lol ... |
| 17:00.51 | Cide | hasn't that happened before? |
| 17:00.52 | malreth | i LOVE that guy! |
| 17:00.53 | Fisker- | oh yeah! |
| 17:00.54 | nevcairiel | someone should ban him for good, its always the same when Instangir talks |
| 17:00.56 | End | you know what's funny...normally I'd be inclined to agree with Intangir :P |
| 17:00.56 | kergoth | yowsa |
| 17:00.58 | wereHamster | bela, wait.. you like vista because it requires you to buy new hardware? |
| 17:01.05 | nevcairiel | Cide: not only once =P |
| 17:01.20 | Lonny | I think someone had a bad day ? |
| 17:01.22 | zenzelezz | and Windows rarely changes the API in a way that breaks programs; it just adds new calls |
| 17:01.22 | End | but, he really was spouting uselessness |
| 17:01.30 | malreth | i bet he's kicking something right now |
| 17:01.33 | zenzelezz | Lonny: no, Int has issues... this happens regularly |
| 17:01.43 | Fisker- | I'd think if you were a programmer you would know the reason why DX10 is not ported to Windows XP is because it would require a significant rewrite of the kernel |
| 17:01.43 | nevcairiel | its not a bad day, its everytime the same when he has some opionion |
| 17:01.54 | Lopeppeppy | At least it wasn't me this time. |
| 17:02.03 | nevcairiel | i remember when i tried to tell us about that sugar replacement thing, i fogot the english name again .. but anyway :P |
| 17:02.16 | Lopeppeppy | Noooo, nevcairiel, noooooo! |
| 17:02.18 | Lunessa | I tossed the politics comment in there looking to push him over the dge. |
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| 17:03.26 | cogwheel | nevcairiel: splenda? nutrasweet? |
| 17:03.33 | nevcairiel | nah |
| 17:04.00 | malreth | Tagatose? |
| 17:04.11 | nevcairiel | aspartame or so |
| 17:04.26 | malreth | mmm... tastiest of the sugar substitutes |
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| 17:04.40 | Bela|work | wereHamster: not the buying persay, the push for change |
| 17:04.51 | malreth | question... do you pronounce it as-part-a-me or asp-ar-tame? |
| 17:05.09 | End | ass party |
| 17:05.10 | End | me |
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| 17:05.15 | End | ass party me? |
| 17:05.18 | Bela|work | I usually stay up on hardware anyway |
| 17:05.26 | Bela|work | my home machine is pretty well built |
| 17:05.28 | Bela|work | and current |
| 17:05.31 | malreth | End: i like how you roll |
| 17:05.35 | Lunessa | mal - I pronounce it hot suffocating death. |
| 17:05.44 | End | <-- A silly person |
| 17:05.50 | nevcairiel | I am still waiting for Creative to create a half-working driver for my Audigy4 before i try vista again |
| 17:05.52 | nevcairiel | well and SP1 |
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| 17:06.50 | Bela|work | I gave up creative a while ago |
| 17:07.00 | Bela|work | they have had trouble with driver support for a couple years |
| 17:07.17 | Bela|work | nvidia scared me for a while there too |
| 17:07.30 | Fisker- | creative don't want to support Vista because they're mad Microsoft pulled hardware support in DirectSound :D |
| 17:07.30 | Bela|work | their early vista drivers left a lot to be desired |
| 17:07.45 | cogwheel | unless you're an audiophile or are really cheap and can't get a decent mobo, onboard sound cards are just fine for most purposes these days |
| 17:07.58 | Bela|work | mine has HD audio onboard anyway |
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| 17:08.19 | foxlit | realtek = bliss |
| 17:08.54 | Lunessa | hah, the first thing i updated for vista was the nvidia memory controller chipset drivers... |
| 17:08.57 | malreth | thank god for the taiwanese! |
| 17:09.18 | cogwheel | Lunessa: I had to install a patch before I even finished installing or else it would blue screen |
| 17:09.32 | End | ouch |
| 17:09.50 | cogwheel | (or i could've taken one of my memory sticks out to finish the installation and then install the patch) |
| 17:10.00 | cogwheel | (but the other way sounds more dramatic ;) ) |
| 17:10.17 | malreth | honestly, vista is crap. i regret ever buying it. i believe we are all in agreement about that. |
| 17:10.21 | malreth | :D |
| 17:10.39 | Cide | vista is gay |
| 17:10.42 | Cide | fact |
| 17:11.08 | malreth | yeah... Liberace gay |
| 17:11.10 | cogwheel | NO U! I LOVE VISTA DAMIT U NO TAKE CANDLE!!! |
| 17:11.18 | cogwheel | MRGGLGRGRLRGRRLLLGL |
| 17:11.51 | wereHamster | see, I don't get it why an average person, who does a bit office, and inet browsing, should need a new, more powerful computer every couple years. For games, ok, but why does MS push vista into business computers? They try to make windows the universal cow for every electronic device. |
| 17:12.16 | cogwheel | because they can? |
| 17:12.18 | End | vista -does- attempt to improve security |
| 17:12.23 | cogwheel | because people bend over and take it? |
| 17:12.27 | malreth | because if they didn't push it into business computers, the vast majority of the PC market share.. MS wouldn't make any money |
| 17:12.44 | malreth | occam's razorburn, as i call it |
| 17:12.46 | cogwheel | and actually, yes, vista *is* more secure which is definitely a plus for businesses |
| 17:13.07 | End | of course, it wouldn't surprise me if most business defeat the security measures anyways :P |
| 17:13.15 | End | businesses* |
| 17:13.22 | cogwheel | and again, thats usually the application developers' faults |
| 17:13.26 | End | yea |
| 17:13.37 | malreth | End: no... they probably bind them to AD and lock the machines down even tighter |
| 17:13.47 | malreth | i know i would |
| 17:14.03 | End | applications often prevent that from being an option |
| 17:14.17 | Lunessa | we bind things with AD and lock stuff down pretty hard. |
| 17:14.21 | ScytheBlade1 | cogwheel: " |
| 17:14.23 | ScytheBlade1 | You know this means war, yes?" |
| 17:14.25 | ScytheBlade1 | I lol'd |
| 17:14.34 | End | if all you run is office, it'd probably work perfectly though :P |
| 17:14.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Nah. That's what guest rights are for. |
| 17:15.58 | Lunessa | I just can't figure out why somethings don't work yet. I basically gave up WAU ever working for me under vista |
| 17:16.03 | End | I do vaguely remember running NT 4, and some -microsoft- application required administrator access :( |
| 17:16.06 | End | of course |
| 17:16.15 | End | it probably wasn't written by microsoft |
| 17:16.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, that's what they all say. |
| 17:16.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Very, very few actually mean it. |
| 17:16.48 | End | (I wish I remember what it was) |
| 17:18.06 | ScytheBlade1 | I quit recently, but I was the lone sysadmin for a three building MS/Active Directory shop (that I built largely from the ground up) |
| 17:18.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Pretty sure after the sixth app that wanted "administrator rights" - that I made run without them - I stopped believing that they all needed it |
| 17:19.02 | cogwheel | Lunessa: that's also blizzard's fault. Move WoW out of program files and you won't have that problem |
| 17:19.08 | End | you mean they basically just say they need it to cover their asses or something? :P |
| 17:19.16 | End | I believe t |
| 17:19.18 | End | it* |
| 17:19.27 | ScytheBlade1 | No, app developers have no clue how to code. ;) |
| 17:19.30 | End | "Hmm, this might not work outside of Administrator, better make it require it" |
| 17:19.30 | ScytheBlade1 | (If you're talking to me) |
| 17:19.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Or at least advertise that it needs it, yes |
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| 17:19.50 | End | and yeah, WoW writing to it's directory is kinda silly |
| 17:20.03 | ScytheBlade1 | In 90% of the cases, it was programs writing to their own directory |
| 17:20.11 | ScytheBlade1 | In 9% it was registry permissions |
| 17:20.13 | cncfanatics | hello peeps |
| 17:20.14 | cogwheel | while I absolutely love WoW's self-containedness, using its program files folder as a data store and addon location goes directly against windows best practices |
| 17:20.17 | ScytheBlade1 | 1% actually needed it |
| 17:20.17 | End | you wouldn't be able to avoid it completely even if they moved WTF out, since you have to patch a lot too :-/ |
| 17:20.38 | cncfanatics | windows' best practices ? |
| 17:20.42 | cncfanatics | you mean it actualy has any ? |
| 17:20.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Hehe |
| 17:20.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes, surprisingly ;) |
| 17:20.49 | cogwheel | End: the patchers can run in admin mode now |
| 17:20.59 | End | hmm |
| 17:21.00 | cogwheel | so they're not as much of an issue |
| 17:21.19 | cncfanatics | I love how wow actualy only uses his own directory |
| 17:21.31 | cncfanatics | and doesn't store his addons, config in registery |
| 17:21.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Registry config is really optional |
| 17:21.54 | malreth | cncfanatics: actually, it goes against a lot of OS's best practices |
| 17:22.20 | cncfanatics | depends |
| 17:22.29 | cncfanatics | most linux stuff would write their config in /home/.name |
| 17:22.30 | cncfanatics | thats true |
| 17:22.43 | ScytheBlade1 | But not /usr/bin ;P |
| 17:22.53 | malreth | cncfanatics: or in a common directory |
| 17:23.12 | cogwheel | cncfanatics: that's exactly what vista is forcing people to do |
| 17:23.21 | cncfanatics | cogwheel, forcing sucks |
| 17:23.26 | End | one thing I don't like is apps storing stuff to my "My Documents", even though that's best practice...what I'd really like is another directory called "My Application Data" or something for user-touchable stuff. (WoW addons would go there for example) |
| 17:23.27 | ScytheBlade1 | cncfanatics: disagree |
| 17:23.29 | cogwheel | the equivalent folder is Users\UserName\AppData or whatever |
| 17:23.30 | cncfanatics | thats why I hate windows :) it forces stuff :) |
| 17:23.32 | malreth | in Mac OS X, it should be in /Library/Application Support/Blizzard/World of Warcraft |
| 17:23.33 | ScytheBlade1 | cncfanatics: they had their time to do it |
| 17:23.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Vista was in open beta for no small period of time, in closed beta (but you could get in if you really wanted to) for years |
| 17:24.04 | cogwheel | cncfanatics: huh? |
| 17:24.04 | ScytheBlade1 | And the underlying foundations have been in place since NT |
| 17:24.17 | cncfanatics | I can't stand an OS forcing stuff onto apps/people |
| 17:24.25 | End | there's a lot of foundation in windows that windows doesn't take advantage of |
| 17:24.30 | cogwheel | cncfanatics: every os forces stuff on to people... |
| 17:24.38 | cogwheel | that's the whole point of security systems... |
| 17:24.40 | malreth | cncfanatics: it's a matter of security |
| 17:24.40 | Lopeppeppy | Meh. I tend to feel I'm smart enough to do whatever I want no matter what a program thinks I should do. |
| 17:24.41 | cncfanatics | not as much as windows does, cogwheel |
| 17:24.45 | cogwheel | O.o |
| 17:24.50 | cogwheel | i think you're confusing issues |
| 17:25.00 | cncfanatics | well, I hate OS's forcing silly stuff, my mistake |
| 17:25.04 | ScytheBlade1 | cncfanatics: disagree, I can write to the boot sector as admin just as easily as I can under linux |
| 17:25.06 | cncfanatics | FORCING a directory where to save stuff is silly |
| 17:25.13 | cogwheel | no, |
| 17:25.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Anything that windows is "forcing" you to do is easily sidestepped |
| 17:25.19 | cogwheel | they're forcing where NOT to save stuff |
| 17:25.25 | cogwheel | and you can bypass that by runing as admin |
| 17:25.45 | cogwheel | which is exactly analogous to apps not being able to write to /bin |
| 17:25.54 | cogwheel | and having to use sudo to do so |
| 17:25.56 | cncfanatics | well, its different |
| 17:26.02 | malreth | cncfanatics: it's really no different from a Unix security model |
| 17:26.06 | sysrage | what's up with wowace wiki? |
| 17:26.07 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:26.15 | cncfanatics | Program Files contains a little more then binaries |
| 17:26.15 | End | ok, /usr then :P |
| 17:26.26 | End | (you got /usr/bin, /usr/lib, /usr/share, etc) |
| 17:26.31 | ScytheBlade1 | The Vista security model is largely identical to the one in place under any *nix nowadays |
| 17:26.34 | cogwheel | cncfanatics: you're arguing semantics, not making a point |
| 17:26.44 | cncfanatics | I'm not really trying to make a point though -.- |
| 17:26.53 | cncfanatics | I jsut think windows sucks, and that oppinion won't change anymore :p |
| 17:27.07 | cogwheel | you're saying it sucks for a specific reason though :P |
| 17:27.11 | cogwheel | and that reason is flat out wrong |
| 17:27.13 | malreth | ah... well i guess that's the end of that conversation then |
| 17:27.33 | cncfanatics | I think windows sucks for various reasons, cogwheel , that one was just an anoyance, not really a reason |
| 17:27.37 | cogwheel | (or more to the point, it's correct, but it's also true about other things you ostensibly don't hate) |
| 17:28.08 | sysrage | sraidframes wasn't showing buffs correctly last night. is that a LUA change that hasn't been fixed in sraidframes yet or a wow api bug? |
| 17:28.09 | krka | sysrage: Lua is not an acronym. It is a Portuguese word that means moon. |
| 17:28.20 | cncfanatics | krka |
| 17:28.22 | End | LUA! |
| 17:28.24 | cncfanatics | luna is the portuguese word |
| 17:28.26 | cncfanatics | not lua |
| 17:28.30 | cncfanatics | lua is derived from luna :) |
| 17:28.34 | sysrage | it's a bot.. and i screw it up every time |
| 17:28.35 | cncfanatics | get it right at least krka :p |
| 17:28.45 | Lopeppeppy | sysrage, my SO saw that as well. I'm assuming it's something sraidframes will need to update. |
| 17:28.58 | cogwheel | cncfanatics: or not... |
| 17:28.59 | cogwheel | http://www.freedict.com/onldict/onldict.php |
| 17:29.15 | End | cogwheel: POST! |
| 17:29.20 | cogwheel | moo @ search site not creating a useful URL |
| 17:29.26 | malreth | ~x pt en lua |
| 17:29.33 | malreth | ha ha! |
| 17:29.33 | End | ~x pt en luna |
| 17:29.44 | End | luna apparently isn't even a word :P |
| 17:29.53 | cogwheel | ~fail cncfanatics |
| 17:29.54 | purl | cncfanatics: Fail. |
| 17:29.55 | End | cncfanatics: owned? |
| 17:29.57 | cncfanatics | :o, wait |
| 17:29.58 | sysrage | lol |
| 17:29.59 | cncfanatics | luna is spanish :p |
| 17:30.02 | End | lol |
| 17:30.05 | cncfanatics | damn confusing, I know both -.- |
| 17:30.07 | zenzelezz | luna also sounds latin |
| 17:30.10 | cncfanatics | and they kinda look alike |
| 17:30.24 | End | yea |
| 17:30.25 | cncfanatics | English Spanish moon luna |
| 17:30.29 | cogwheel | you silly euros and your knowing more than one language on average |
| 17:30.35 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 17:30.44 | cncfanatics | english; french ; dutch; portuguese; spanish :p |
| 17:31.02 | zenzelezz | I'd be happy if Americans on average even knew one language |
| 17:31.07 | End | haha |
| 17:31.08 | sysrage | anybody know what's up with wowace? |
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| 17:31.09 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 17:31.15 | End | I shouldn't laugh |
| 17:31.21 | malreth | you should be more like us americans and specialize in just one language so as to better master it gooder |
| 17:31.24 | ScytheBlade1 | It's funny because it's true ;P |
| 17:31.31 | End | yeah |
| 17:31.38 | cncfanatics | malreth, you realize what you just said is bullshit right ? :p |
| 17:31.46 | cncfanatics | its not cuz you know more then one language you can't master any |
| 17:31.47 | malreth | ~malreth |
| 17:31.47 | purl | never take malreth seriously |
| 17:31.52 | malreth | that's right! |
| 17:31.55 | End | because malreth was totally N |
| 17:31.56 | End | er |
| 17:31.57 | End | bah |
| 17:32.02 | End | because malreth was totally NOT being sarcastic |
| 17:32.19 | cncfanatics | sarcasm doesn't communicate well on irc :) |
| 17:32.31 | sysrage | it does if you aren't a moron |
| 17:32.38 | End | that's why you give emphasis via caps or funny symbols :P |
| 17:32.51 | cncfanatics | sysrage, are you implying I'm a moron ? :( |
| 17:32.57 | malreth | everything i say is sarcasm |
| 17:33.04 | sysrage | if you thought 'better master it gooder' was serious, yes |
| 17:33.07 | malreth | even what i just wrote |
| 17:33.09 | malreth | and that |
| 17:33.14 | malreth | oh... and that last one too |
| 17:33.47 | End | anyways, I thought it was obvious sarcasm :P |
| 17:33.59 | End | but whatever |
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| 17:35.19 | cncfanatics | omg, I'm actualy using blizz downloader |
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| 17:35.53 | malreth | Jesus be praised! |
| 17:36.06 | Lopeppeppy | I got to use it for the patch too, I was.... floored. |
| 17:37.09 | malreth | hmm... these system updates aren't being applied correctly through Radmind... |
| 17:38.41 | Lopeppeppy | Maybe he needs lunch? |
| 17:39.18 | malreth | Radmind is my bitch... It don't get lunch until I say it does. |
| 17:40.02 | malreth | Maybe Radmind needs another disciplining? |
| 17:40.31 | malreth | Well, that's what Radmind would want... And I won't give it that. |
| 17:41.55 | cncfanatics | anyone know how to optimize framerate decently under linux ? having a few issues |
| 17:42.49 | Lunessa | I have a fever ... and the only prescription is ... more Warcraft. |
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| 17:45.31 | Lopeppeppy | No, Lunessa, you mustn't! |
| 17:45.32 | Lopeppeppy | You couldn't! |
| 17:45.44 | Lunessa | I ... MUST! |
| 17:46.41 | zenzelezz | fever! ..in the lumber mill, fever all through the mine |
| 17:47.29 | cncfanatics | great, no more graphics under wine |
| 17:47.31 | Lopeppeppy | There's a nice Jill Sobule song about all that. |
| 17:47.36 | cncfanatics | and I'd LOVE to know why, someone can help me ? :p |
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| 17:50.30 | _Saint-N | blerg |
| 17:51.15 | malreth | ~jerg |
| 17:51.16 | purl | ACTION SKONK JONKED malreth's HONK!!! ZONK!! |
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| 17:56.45 | Lopeppeppy | er.... okay.... |
| 17:57.39 | malreth | I must totally fascinate you, Pep |
| 17:58.13 | malreth | I'll assure you that I only act like this here on this channel |
| 17:58.26 | malreth | well... also on other irc channels and networks |
| 17:58.28 | Lunessa | He's much more ... republican ... in person. |
| 17:58.31 | malreth | and at parties |
| 17:58.41 | malreth | Lunessa: RACIST! |
| 17:58.42 | malreth | oh... |
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| 17:58.51 | malreth | sorry... REpublican |
| 17:59.17 | Lunessa | You don't own an inn/tavern/eatery.... you can't be a "publican" |
| 17:59.28 | malreth | I'm actually quite socialist, really |
| 18:00.24 | Lunessa | But you conduct yourself very conservatively in public. |
| 18:00.40 | cogwheel | i blame texas :P |
| 18:00.51 | malreth | the opportunity didn't present itself last time |
| 18:01.06 | malreth | i've made people *leave* restaurants before |
| 18:01.30 | malreth | like... they didn't even say anything... they just got up, stared... and left |
| 18:01.53 | Lunessa | You skipped showering, didn't yoy? |
| 18:02.08 | cogwheel | that's 'cause socialists are stupid and they didn't want to be exposed to your filth |
| 18:02.09 | Lunessa | And like T is a calming influence in any social gathering. |
| 18:02.12 | cogwheel | <.< |
| 18:02.13 | cogwheel | >.> |
| 18:02.27 | cogwheel | :P |
| 18:02.31 | malreth | it didn't help that I used to wear a trenchcoat even in the summer |
| 18:02.36 | malreth | peee-yew! |
| 18:03.50 | Lunessa | Haha. |
| 18:04.07 | Lopeppeppy | And this is supposed to be fascinating? Like a bug crawling through fire, maybe.... *wink* |
| 18:04.13 | malreth | the incident happened in Houston... bit different social climate there than in Austin |
| 18:04.33 | malreth | i was talking about the most excellent story i had just read |
| 18:04.50 | malreth | a Japanese H-manga titled "Super Taboo" |
| 18:05.02 | malreth | a story about a family that has sex with each other |
| 18:05.10 | malreth | well... just the mom, sister, and brother |
| 18:05.29 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, JUST. |
| 18:05.29 | malreth | there's no father figure in the story which i believe is the root of the entire problem |
| 18:06.01 | malreth | anywaaaaays... i retold the story in the restaurant but i spoke of it like they were real people when explaining events |
| 18:06.12 | malreth | cogwheel: i'm getting to that part |
| 18:06.55 | malreth | yadda yadda, end of the story after an incident with his sister (it was anal related), his mom has sex with him so he'd understand "feelings" or some thing like that |
| 18:07.15 | malreth | and he gains some additional awareness or something |
| 18:08.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Wait, what? |
| 18:08.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Actually never mind |
| 18:08.30 | ScytheBlade1 | That wasn't a question |
| 18:09.07 | malreth | the key difference is it ends in a 'nakadashi' as opposed to a 'chuu dashi' |
| 18:09.13 | malreth | or do i have that backwards? |
| 18:09.37 | malreth | my friend asked, "so he stopped having sex with his sister?" |
| 18:10.00 | malreth | and i said, "oh no he *@W#R$@ @#*#$ @*$#$ still but he @#@$# as well" |
| 18:10.23 | malreth | lady behind us in the booth just gets up and leaves like how i described earlier |
| 18:10.28 | malreth | kinda like how End just did |
| 18:10.31 | ScytheBlade1 | ... a haha |
| 18:10.56 | cncfanatics | sigh, anyone here to help me with some wine issues ? |
| 18:10.58 | malreth | Lopeppeppy: yeah, the story is bull |
| 18:11.04 | ScytheBlade1 | cncfanatics: ? |
| 18:11.15 | malreth | actually... the art wasn't all that great either |
| 18:11.34 | cncfanatics | ScyteBlade1, I can't run the game in opengl mode, and d3d is uberslow |
| 18:11.39 | malreth | and i really don't know what any of this has with socialism, either |
| 18:11.54 | ScytheBlade1 | cncfanatics: still using the binary from the site? And what distro again? |
| 18:11.54 | Lopeppeppy | Weirdo. *rolls eyes fondly* |
| 18:12.07 | Cairenn|afk | Kaelten: ping? |
| 18:12.20 | Kaelten | yes dear? |
| 18:12.27 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 18:12.27 | cncfanatics | ScyteBlade1, yes, debian unstable |
| 18:12.37 | cncfanatics | oh, and d3d mode spits out errors all the time |
| 18:12.41 | Cairenn|afk | forwarded a PM to you on WoWI |
| 18:12.45 | ScytheBlade1 | cncfanatics: build it by source or grab the debian version? |
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| 18:12.57 | ScytheBlade1 | That'd be step one |
| 18:13.19 | cncfanatics | I grabbed the debvian version |
| 18:13.29 | ScytheBlade1 | From the debian repo? |
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| 18:14.09 | cncfanatics | from the wine repo |
| 18:14.12 | cncfanatics | from winehq :) |
| 18:14.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Either apt-get it or build it from source |
| 18:15.05 | cncfanatics | I apt-get'd it from winehq |
| 18:15.22 | ScytheBlade1 | -.- |
| 18:15.28 | cncfanatics | :) |
| 18:15.28 | ScytheBlade1 | What video card/driver? |
| 18:15.31 | cncfanatics | ati :( |
| 18:15.35 | cncfanatics | ati radeon 9600 , flgrx driver |
| 18:15.52 | cogwheel | L O L Y O Y O U L O S E ! |
| 18:16.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Normally at this point I'd throw my arms up in the air and laugh at you for a few hours |
| 18:16.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Or Cog can do that for me |
| 18:16.07 | ScytheBlade1 | cogwheel++ |
| 18:16.23 | cncfanatics | old computer, can't change gfx card |
| 18:16.27 | cncfanatics | WTB nvidia :p |
| 18:16.29 | ScytheBlade1 | But I had a 9700PRO, so, I know the radeon crap |
| 18:16.30 | cncfanatics | still need to fix this though |
| 18:16.32 | ScytheBlade1 | It sucked |
| 18:16.37 | ScytheBlade1 | ~karma cogwheel |
| 18:16.37 | purl | cogwheel has neutral karma |
| 18:16.37 | cncfanatics | 5fps in WoW sucks |
| 18:16.37 | Saint-N | ya know what song puts me in the spring/summer fun time mood? |
| 18:16.42 | cncfanatics | and unable to run opengl mode sucks harder |
| 18:16.54 | zenzelezz | unfair |
| 18:17.12 | ScytheBlade1 | glxgears... go or no go? |
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| 18:18.03 | cncfanatics | 1k fps in glxgears |
| 18:18.04 | kergoth | whats the best event to use to check when the player enters or leaves a party? |
| 18:18.05 | cncfanatics | with WoW running too |
| 18:18.22 | Saint-N | http://youtube.com/watch?v=kHAl1tWvvPA&feature=related |
| 18:18.38 | Kaelten | thanks :) |
| 18:18.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Well that's not great but at least it works |
| 18:18.43 | cncfanatics | 2 fps in aldor bank in WoW, this is silly |
| 18:18.57 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm thinkign 2FPS in aldor might be your cap considering your glxgears "performance" |
| 18:19.02 | cncfanatics | 11036 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2206.022 FPS |
| 18:19.06 | cncfanatics | getting that now |
| 18:19.10 | cncfanatics | seems it needed to warmup :p |
| 18:19.31 | Saint-N | and bankers came and took my land and told me fair is fair, |
| 18:19.32 | ScytheBlade1 | 20108 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4021.590 FPS |
| 18:19.35 | ScytheBlade1 | And that's with WoW running |
| 18:19.43 | Saint-N | but ive got too much pride to end up just another buuuuuuuummmmm |
| 18:19.49 | Cairenn|afk | Kaelten: so is he right? or is the problem on his end? |
| 18:19.49 | cncfanatics | sitting at around 2k-2.2k fps atm with WoW running |
| 18:19.55 | Saint-N | and i thought who gives a damn if all the jobs are gooooonnnnnnneeeee |
| 18:20.00 | cncfanatics | ScyteBlade1, nvidia ? |
| 18:20.06 | Kaelten | he was right, but I've fixed it already |
| 18:20.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 18:20.08 | Saint-N | im gonna be a PIRATE on the river saskatchewaaaaaaaan!!!!!!!!! |
| 18:20.10 | Cairenn|afk | ah, okay |
| 18:20.19 | cncfanatics | WTB |
| 18:20.23 | cncfanatics | any way to tweak ati's shit though ? |
| 18:20.30 | ScytheBlade1 | cncfanatics: write a new driver? |
| 18:20.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Really, it's ATi under linux |
| 18:20.39 | cncfanatics | there are some people that do that :) |
| 18:20.40 | ScytheBlade1 | You're kinda boned regardless |
| 18:20.50 | cncfanatics | do the OS drivers support 3d yet ? |
| 18:20.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Nope |
| 18:21.00 | Lunessa | kergoth: http://www.wowwiki.com/Events/R |
| 18:21.05 | ScytheBlade1 | It'll be a while before they're remotely stable/mature enough to do so |
| 18:21.16 | cncfanatics | hmmmm |
| 18:21.17 | cncfanatics | also |
| 18:21.24 | cncfanatics | got any idea why I'm unable to run in opengl mode ? |
| 18:21.27 | cncfanatics | only d3d mode works |
| 18:21.33 | cncfanatics | opengl gives me weird graphic artifacts |
| 18:21.34 | kergoth | Lunessa: is that fired for a party too? |
| 18:21.48 | ScytheBlade1 | 40386 frames in 5.0 seconds = 8077.103 FPS |
| 18:21.55 | Lunessa | http://www.wowwiki.com/Events/P |
| 18:21.56 | ScytheBlade1 | I would really say build it from source and try |
| 18:22.04 | cncfanatics | did that before, didn't fix shit |
| 18:22.13 | cncfanatics | I'm suspecting its just fglrx, but I'd like to know why regardless |
| 18:22.25 | ScytheBlade1 | To answer that question, you'd have to have their source code |
| 18:23.02 | cncfanatics | well |
| 18:23.05 | cncfanatics | this is linux |
| 18:23.08 | cncfanatics | I don't know why sourcecode |
| 18:23.14 | cncfanatics | but I'd guess that wine d3d is rendered with opengl |
| 18:23.19 | cncfanatics | or am I wrong there ? |
| 18:23.19 | ScytheBlade1 | It is |
| 18:23.30 | cncfanatics | then why does d3d thats rendered with ogl work but not plain ogl ? |
| 18:23.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Nope, you're correct |
| 18:23.38 | ScytheBlade1 | That's why I would suggest building from source |
| 18:23.44 | cncfanatics | tempting |
| 18:23.52 | ScytheBlade1 | And failing that, it's a driver install/general driver/distro problem |
| 18:24.01 | cncfanatics | driver problem most probably |
| 18:24.08 | cncfanatics | noone with debian + nvidia has problems |
| 18:24.15 | cncfanatics | only anything + fglrx people have |
| 18:24.22 | cncfanatics | gonna tweak my xorg.conf some also |
| 18:25.35 | krka | ubuntu + nvidia at home worked out of the box, ubuntu + radeon at work is failure :/ |
| 18:26.02 | ScytheBlade1 | radeon in general is a failure |
| 18:26.16 | Saint-N | come back proud canadians to before you had TV |
| 18:26.24 | Saint-N | no hockey night in canada, there was no CBC |
| 18:26.36 | Saint-N | in 1812, madison was mad, he was the president you know |
| 18:26.58 | cncfanatics | lets see |
| 18:27.27 | krka | everything just got completely white when i tried fglrx and compiz |
| 18:27.33 | krka | fairly annoying |
| 18:27.41 | Saint-N | krka thats actually a fixable bug |
| 18:28.05 | Saint-N | google that specific thing and you'll find the fix |
| 18:28.30 | krka | i did but didn't find anything |
| 18:28.36 | krka | (that worked) |
| 18:28.40 | Saint-N | oh |
| 18:28.41 | cncfanatics | Saint-N, I actualy even have to reboot |
| 18:28.48 | Saint-N | ive got it bookmarked at home |
| 18:28.57 | Saint-N | hah nice! |
| 18:28.58 | cncfanatics | fglrx will crash if I try to reboot X |
| 18:29.04 | cncfanatics | nice eh ? |
| 18:29.48 | Lunessa | yay! my Leopard install discs are here! |
| 18:30.08 | Saint-N | yay |
| 18:30.09 | Saint-N | ? |
| 18:30.31 | Lopeppeppy | Meow! |
| 18:30.33 | Saint-N | cnc: and then you ctrl-alt-f1 and login as root and kill gdm ;P |
| 18:30.35 | Lopeppeppy | Ooops, I mean RAWR! |
| 18:31.45 | cncfanatics | Saint-N |
| 18:31.47 | cncfanatics | in console |
| 18:31.53 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:31.56 | cncfanatics | will result in gdm restarting |
| 18:31.59 | cncfanatics | and in fglrx locking up my kernel |
| 18:32.18 | Saint-N | oh kernel lock? |
| 18:32.20 | cncfanatics | yea |
| 18:32.22 | Saint-N | thats pretty awesome |
| 18:32.25 | cncfanatics | ... |
| 18:32.35 | cncfanatics | I have a reliable way to lockup my kernel |
| 18:34.19 | Saint-N | good god it's 18degrees out |
| 18:34.25 | Saint-N | w...t...h |
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| 18:35.45 | cncfanatics | rebooting .. |
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| 18:39.32 | cncfanatics | :o |
| 18:39.36 | cncfanatics | 3k fps in glxgears now |
| 18:39.37 | cncfanatics | thats an upgrade |
| 18:39.57 | Fisker- | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:40.25 | cncfanatics | Fisker-, yea, I love your mother too |
| 18:40.25 | Lopeppeppy | 3000 fps? |
| 18:40.28 | wereHamster | cncfanatics, you know that glxgears is no benchmark.. ? |
| 18:40.50 | |pez| | I really want blizz to implement hirable NPCs where I can sell my stuff. |
| 18:40.58 | cncfanatics | wereHamster, I do |
| 18:40.58 | |pez| | so I can.. open a store in WoW! |
| 18:41.03 | cncfanatics | but it was at 2k fps earlyer |
| 18:41.09 | cncfanatics | getting 1k higher is an upgrade :p |
| 18:42.25 | ScytheBlade1 | And then you realize that glxgears has three colors total :) |
| 18:42.26 | sioraiocht | oh hai |
| 18:43.03 | Cairenn | okay, I knew you two were close and all, but actually becoming each other? |
| 18:43.19 | Lopeppeppy | Very Siamese. |
| 18:43.24 | Cairenn | indeed |
| 18:43.37 | zenzelezz | Jekyll and Hyde |
| 18:43.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Er? |
| 18:43.44 | zenzelezz | Jeckyl? Something |
| 18:44.03 | sioraiocht | hahah |
| 18:44.12 | sioraiocht | he had to leave to do some rowing stuff |
| 18:44.16 | sioraiocht | so I just took over his computer for a bit |
| 18:44.23 | Lopeppeppy | Sneaky |
| 18:44.23 | sioraiocht | mostly to listen to music while I read |
| 18:44.32 | Cairenn | :) |
| 18:44.48 | sioraiocht | And neither of us is Thai, tyvm |
| 18:45.19 | cncfanatics | now firefox doesn't start, wth is happening to this computer ? |
| 18:45.46 | |pez| | it's due for a reinstall |
| 18:46.10 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:46.14 | cncfanatics | might be |
| 18:46.23 | sioraiocht | cncfanatics: what OS is running |
| 18:46.54 | sioraiocht | how's it going in North American, Cairenn |
| 18:46.54 | sioraiocht | *America |
| 18:47.07 | |pez| | I'll guess Linux ( Debian ) because of the iceweasel thing. :P |
| 18:47.12 | Cairenn | doing good in my area :) |
| 18:47.23 | cncfanatics | yep, debian |
| 18:47.31 | cncfanatics | why don't they call it firefox anyway ? |
| 18:47.36 | cncfanatics | naming conflict with another program ? |
| 18:47.38 | mikma | license problems or something |
| 18:47.55 | sioraiocht | Cairenn: the primaries in the US are starting to scare me |
| 18:48.04 | Cairenn | how's rainy England? |
| 18:48.08 | sioraiocht | airny |
| 18:48.08 | cncfanatics | still same issue after reinstall, sigh |
| 18:48.11 | sioraiocht | *rainy |
| 18:48.12 | cncfanatics | issues are irritating me |
| 18:48.14 | zenzelezz | the binary is firefox-bin, but the folder has a firefox script that starts it anyway |
| 18:48.22 | Cairenn | lol, like I pay attention to US politics? |
| 18:48.33 | sioraiocht | and cold |
| 18:48.37 | sioraiocht | but not as cold as Canada |
| 18:48.43 | |pez| | this article will probably tell you http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_IceCat |
| 18:48.58 | Cairenn | actually, we've had a major melt over the last couple days, was up to +10C yesterday |
| 18:49.55 | Cairenn | it has been so foggy the last couple days, I felt like I was back at home in NS |
| 18:49.56 | sioraiocht | w00t, clinton won the newhampshire primary |
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| 18:58.01 | malreth | funny thing at the bank |
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| 18:58.25 | malreth | a while ago, i nicknamed my accounts "Mostly Harmless" and "Completely Useless" |
| 18:58.33 | malreth | for the checking and savings accounts |
| 18:58.50 | malreth | apparently, those nicknames show up on the teller's monitors |
| 18:59.10 | malreth | i got a funny look from the nice bank lady |
| 19:00.05 | Thunder_Child | someone was readong to much hitchhikers guide |
| 19:00.09 | Thunder_Child | reading* |
| 19:01.00 | sioraiocht | my friends "secret answer" was once Admiral Piett, and she ended having to call the company and they asked her for it, the guy on the phone totally got thereference |
| 19:01.25 | sioraiocht | also, that was a name of a series of her goldfish... |
| 19:01.26 | malreth | not so secret now |
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| 19:01.55 | Thunder_Child | he said "once" |
| 19:02.54 | sioraiocht | well, if you can guess her identity, and what it was for... |
| 19:03.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh, so, I was about to respond to the "IF-THEN macros" thread, but then I saw the author |
| 19:03.19 | sioraiocht | ? |
| 19:03.32 | foxlit | Hm I don't get why I get a segmentation fault :( |
| 19:03.42 | sioraiocht | ? |
| 19:03.46 | sioraiocht | do you want help, foxlit ? |
| 19:03.50 | ScytheBlade1 | The author of that thread would eviscerate me on sight... he might be a semi-'famous' mage forum troll |
| 19:03.56 | Lopeppeppy | *laugh* |
| 19:04.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Good for you, really |
| 19:04.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Me? I have no life |
| 19:04.33 | ScytheBlade1 | So I read forums |
| 19:04.46 | sioraiocht | ah |
| 19:04.50 | sioraiocht | what have i done all day |
| 19:04.51 | sioraiocht | hrm |
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| 19:04.59 | foxlit | http://foxlit.pastey.net/80391 |
| 19:05.05 | sioraiocht | read terry pratchett, work on a theorem prover, and goto the gym |
| 19:05.08 | sioraiocht | i['m not very interesting either |
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| 19:06.11 | sioraiocht | foxlit: is blpfile a valid pointer? |
| 19:06.17 | sioraiocht | you aren't checking if its null |
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| 19:06.25 | foxlit | In this case, yes, it is |
| 19:06.32 | foxlit | header gets filled with valid values, too |
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| 19:06.48 | foxlit | [pool drain]; and actual segfault happens at [pool drain]; |
| 19:06.49 | sioraiocht | okay |
| 19:07.01 | Lunessa | So ScytheBlade1, he's an asshat everywhere he goes then? |
| 19:07.05 | sioraiocht | oh, hrm |
| 19:07.36 | cncfanatics | FINALY |
| 19:07.39 | foxlit | If I had to guess, osmething deallocates blpfile |
| 19:07.39 | malreth | ScytheBlade1: there's more than one way to play that game |
| 19:07.40 | cncfanatics | I think everything is about working |
| 19:08.48 | sioraiocht | foxlit: I wouldn'tknow that much, i don'tknow the os x APIs |
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| 19:10.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, he's an epic moron |
| 19:10.23 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got several of his threads deleted, and he recognizes me on sight |
| 19:10.42 | malreth | ScytheBlade1: that's why we have to combat him with MORE MORONITY |
| 19:11.05 | ScytheBlade1 | He's the "brains" behind the whole "insultibliaty", "insulatability is like wearing a brown paper bag over your head", and "icy vericose veins" |
| 19:11.28 | ScytheBlade1 | He's essentially a giant mage troll who doesn't KNOW WHEN TO not use CAPITAL LETTERS and I'm really surprised he hasn't been permabanned yet |
| 19:12.24 | Lopeppeppy | Maybe he has. *wink* |
| 19:12.34 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 19:12.47 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm pretty sure he's been forum suspened at least once |
| 19:12.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Unfortunately, that's not enough :/ |
| 19:13.09 | Thunder_Child | well that doesnt seem hard, half the people in here have |
| 19:13.13 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 19:13.15 | ScytheBlade1 | True |
| 19:13.27 | Lunessa | Actually, I'm shocked I've never been given a forums vacation. |
| 19:13.51 | malreth | i've never been suspended |
| 19:14.00 | malreth | but i never really try to cross any lines |
| 19:14.32 | ScytheBlade1 | If anyone took a close look at my account, they would come across a generally happy poster with no small number of trolling alts that are commonly used |
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| 19:15.04 | Lunessa | ~lart malreth |
| 19:15.04 | purl | chops malreth in half with a free AOL CD |
| 19:16.41 | zenzelezz | the new standard UI ready check is sweet :-o |
| 19:18.58 | Lunessa | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3773285824&sid=1 - go buy a fucking mouse for $10 fuckwit. |
| 19:21.10 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/342499/microsofts-brainwashing-childrens-book-mommy-where-do-servers-come-from |
| 19:21.56 | malreth | i should report the bug that prevents you from casting ground targeted aoe spells if you swap the bindings for left and right click |
| 19:22.33 | malreth | oh... |
| 19:22.45 | malreth | so i actually bought a Bamboo tablet for trying to play WoW |
| 19:23.08 | Thunder_Child | heh, when i get my convertable laptop i will be playing wow on it |
| 19:23.11 | malreth | after a day of retraining myself, i got moderately ok with moving around |
| 19:23.36 | malreth | but i found it was much easier to play if i swapped the left and right click bindings like i just mentioned |
| 19:23.37 | Thunder_Child | i want the dell one...just not for 3K :( |
| 19:23.49 | malreth | and that's when i discovered the bug |
| 19:23.58 | End | your uncle that smells like bark! |
| 19:24.23 | malreth | it wouldn't have been so bad if i hadn't already started an AoE farming pull |
| 19:24.28 | Lopeppeppy | Woof. |
| 19:25.19 | malreth | oddly enough, Wacom's software doesn't allow you to remap a pad-touch as button-2... it's always button-1 |
| 19:25.36 | malreth | but you can remap the pen button to be anything else |
| 19:25.51 | malreth | and the hardware buttons on the pad can be anything except mouse button clicks |
| 19:26.01 | malreth | which is really annoying |
| 19:26.02 | Thunder_Child | are you sure malreth, i think i have |
| 19:26.46 | malreth | i didn't see an option for mouse button clicks |
| 19:27.49 | malreth | regardless, that isn't a big problem |
| 19:28.53 | malreth | it's the swap-bindings-then-no-casty-aoe-spells thing that dropped the poo in my bowl of cheerios |
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| 19:37.08 | Lunessa | I may never eat cheerios again. |
| 19:37.46 | cncfanatics | ScyteBlade1 |
| 19:37.47 | Saint-N | has anyone every used cafepress to make/sell stuff? |
| 19:37.52 | cncfanatics | update on wine issues, got some more time |
| 19:37.56 | cncfanatics | ? |
| 19:38.21 | malreth | Lunessa: i never will either. this cereal tastes like crap. |
| 19:38.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Sure |
| 19:38.33 | Lunessa | ... |
| 19:38.38 | cncfanatics | ScyteBlade1, in opengl mode |
| 19:38.44 | cncfanatics | most textures are black |
| 19:38.50 | cncfanatics | unless I add GL_ARB_vertex_program to DisabledExtensions |
| 19:38.53 | Lopeppeppy | I won't eat Corn Pops..... |
| 19:38.58 | cncfanatics | and then WoW runs at an ever slower pace then d3d |
| 19:39.01 | cncfanatics | any ideas ? |
| 19:39.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Did you try to build it from source? |
| 19:39.34 | cncfanatics | not yet |
| 19:39.40 | cncfanatics | would it matter at all for that kind of stuff ? |
| 19:40.08 | ScytheBlade1 | I would really, really suggest giving it a shot |
| 19:40.32 | ScytheBlade1 | It may take a while to grab all of the -devel packages that you need, but I have never had luck with binaries like that, especially ones as complex as wine |
| 19:40.46 | cncfanatics | sigh |
| 19:41.15 | malreth | sounds like someone would be happier using windows |
| 19:41.16 | cncfanatics | whats gonna take most time tbh is compiling :p |
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| 19:41.23 | cncfanatics | malreth, I threw away windows 2 days ago |
| 19:41.28 | cncfanatics | its running slower then linux, WAY slower |
| 19:41.39 | malreth | you'll come back... |
| 19:41.43 | malreth | they always come back |
| 19:41.52 | malreth | you neeeeeeed us, cncfanatics |
| 19:42.01 | cncfanatics | ~shoo malreth |
| 19:42.05 | cncfanatics | ~shoo bill gates |
| 19:42.15 | malreth | don't worry... windows doesn't judge you... we'll welcome you back into the fold... |
| 19:42.20 | malreth | the warm nurturing fold |
| 19:42.22 | ScytheBlade1 | To be honest? Your performance will be nothing short of incredible if you'd ditch wine for windows |
| 19:42.23 | Lopeppeppy | Compiling is just an excuse to go play video games |
| 19:42.29 | cncfanatics | ScyteBlade1 |
| 19:42.33 | cncfanatics | 15 fps on windows |
| 19:42.36 | cncfanatics | and windows itself is SLOW |
| 19:42.43 | cncfanatics | I hate having a slow OS |
| 19:42.45 | malreth | and black textures on wine |
| 19:42.46 | Saint-N | lope: compiling is an excuse for everything |
| 19:42.51 | malreth | you take your pick |
| 19:42.57 | ScytheBlade1 | 1440x900 gets me ~10-15FPS in wine, same hardware on windows I get 1680x1050 and >40FPS |
| 19:42.58 | cncfanatics | wmp takes 10 secs to start |
| 19:43.00 | malreth | ooh... |
| 19:43.11 | cncfanatics | ScyteBlade1: weird |
| 19:43.17 | bleeter | silly slouken, taking time off from his paternity leave to post on the 'congratulations' thread |
| 19:43.20 | malreth | i accidentally dropped my windows xp install disk... oh... but i have another copy |
| 19:43.26 | malreth | you can keep it, cncfanatics |
| 19:43.33 | malreth | i. wont. mind. |
| 19:43.43 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 19:43.51 | cncfanatics | I have about 5 windows xp instlal disks |
| 19:43.53 | cncfanatics | no thanks |
| 19:43.57 | cncfanatics | can't stand windows any longer |
| 19:44.28 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got a CD binder of ~20, and six Server 2003 CDs |
| 19:44.34 | Saint-N | you just didnt make the step away from explorer shell ;P |
| 19:44.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Plus MSSQL Enterprise, CPU licensed |
| 19:44.41 | bleeter | cncfanatics: yeah, try compiling from source. I suspect some mismatch somewhere, that source build may 'fix'. And yeah, I suggested yesterday as a wine build can take some time, do it while yer AFK |
| 19:44.53 | malreth | windows is good... windows is good |
| 19:45.10 | Saint-N | windows is good for games |
| 19:45.17 | Saint-N | thats about it |
| 19:45.22 | malreth | yes.. windows *is* good |
| 19:45.23 | cncfanatics | sigh |
| 19:45.26 | cncfanatics | segfaulting again |
| 19:45.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Source build for you! |
| 19:45.34 | cncfanatics | WHY is wine segfaulting ? |
| 19:45.37 | bleeter | cncfanatics: you should remove the pre-built wine before building from source, and if you're mildly competent with source, use Wine Git rather than their tarballs |
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| 19:45.52 | cncfanatics | bleeter, can I build dep packages from git easely ? |
| 19:45.53 | cncfanatics | I'm lazy |
| 19:46.02 | bleeter | WINEDEBUG, gdb and bt's are your friends |
| 19:46.04 | ScytheBlade1 | cncfanatics: ./configure; make depend && make |
| 19:46.08 | malreth | linux is not for the lazy, cncfanatics |
| 19:46.13 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: no.... tools/wineinstall |
| 19:46.15 | cncfanatics | that won't build a dep pkg ScyteBlade1 |
| 19:46.20 | malreth | all seriousness |
| 19:46.22 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter: ;P |
| 19:46.31 | Saint-N | linux is totally for the lazy |
| 19:46.41 | Lopeppeppy | I should have some of that then. |
| 19:46.49 | Saint-N | cron a buncha stuff and go nap ;P |
| 19:47.00 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 19:47.08 | malreth | just say when |
| 19:47.09 | bleeter | cncfanatics: create a /usr/local/winegit directory, and build into that. Don't worry about dpkg's and stuff until you've got a non-crashy wine. you're introducing (potentially) an additional level of bugginess for no reason. |
| 19:47.17 | Lopeppeppy | Being fed is totally lazyfun. |
| 19:47.47 | Saint-N | you wouldnt say that if you udnerstood that "linux" was a petname for an appendage |
| 19:48.09 | Lunessa | she might |
| 19:48.15 | Lopeppeppy | malreth, you're a dangerous beast. |
| 19:48.26 | Lunessa | he's housebroken |
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| 19:49.04 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, gods..... heaven for only a few short words, but heaven nevertheless. |
| 19:49.19 | Saint-N | luney: yeah i suppose |
| 19:49.21 | malreth | another daiquiri? |
| 19:49.33 | Saint-N | i heard that peppy was a intergalactic space hussy |
| 19:49.38 | Lopeppeppy | Hey! |
| 19:49.43 | Lopeppeppy | I'm totally from earth. |
| 19:49.44 | Saint-N | or was that a trollop |
| 19:49.50 | Saint-N | i get the two confused |
| 19:49.58 | malreth | ~Lopeppeppy |
| 19:49.59 | purl | I'm a ventrol-lol-iquist-er-izer. -- Lopeppeppy |
| 19:50.15 | Saint-N | <cheese> |
| 19:50.46 | Saint-N | baby with eyes and a body like that theres no way you were created on THIS planet </cheese> |
| 19:50.56 | Lunessa | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3773285824&sid=1 - some people refuse to be reasonable. |
| 19:50.58 | Saint-N | btw nice shoes........ |
| 19:52.24 | Saint-N | hrm home time for me before i pass out from sleepiness |
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| 19:52.36 | malreth | Lunessa: he probably doesn't keep 7 extra mice around the house like any self-respecting geek would |
| 19:52.51 | End | only 7? |
| 19:52.55 | Lopeppeppy | Even I have multi-mouse capability. |
| 19:52.57 | Lunessa | Hell, they come free with gorram cereal |
| 19:53.05 | End | or are you only including working mice? |
| 19:53.15 | malreth | End: working or non-working |
| 19:53.15 | Lopeppeppy | And that doesn't include the ones that I dropped in the bath tub that don't work well anymore. |
| 19:53.22 | |pez| | I really need to get past the whole "I can't watch embarresing scenes in TV series" thing I have. |
| 19:53.36 | malreth | Lopeppeppy: uh... those things don't have a vibrate setting... quit doing that |
| 19:54.09 | Lopeppeppy | Those don't go into the bath, malreth. I thought you were housebroken enough to know that. |
| 19:54.31 | Lopeppeppy | |pez|, I change the channel too, it's not just you |
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| 19:55.29 | |pez| | Lopeppeppy: problem is it's a downloaded TV series, so I just use ages watching one episode XD |
| 19:55.38 | Saint-N | |pez|, to sum it up Mistress Peppy has a new toy ;P |
| 19:55.40 | Lopeppeppy | *laugh* |
| 19:55.59 | malreth | and the toy's name is malreth! |
| 19:56.10 | Lopeppeppy | Hmm.... |
| 19:56.10 | Saint-N | no the toy's name is "toy" |
| 19:56.13 | Saint-N | ;) |
| 19:56.44 | Saint-N | if not peppy you could always just put the leahters on and get the crop ;) |
| 19:57.29 | Lopeppeppy | Meep. |
| 19:57.34 | malreth | that's just too much for me to handle. i can't deal with this. i was raised catholic, after all. |
| 19:57.51 | |pez| | I was raised a cute and innocent girl. Didn't last too long really. |
| 19:57.54 | Lopeppeppy | He was referring to the old toy, malreth. |
| 19:58.00 | Saint-N | mal: you should be uysed to women beating you then ;P |
| 19:58.19 | Lopeppeppy | I was wondering that too, |Jelly|. Apparently something to do with being dropped into the bath tub and rendered non-functional. |
| 20:00.34 | Lopeppeppy | Y'all are just cruel. Cruel. |
| 20:00.56 | Thunder_Child | uh huh, and who has the leather and whips? |
| 20:01.07 | Lunessa | ... No, cruel is much much worse. |
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| 20:03.27 | cncfanatics | ScyteBlade1 |
| 20:03.34 | cncfanatics | managed to get my hands on a good COnfig.wtf file |
| 20:03.38 | cncfanatics | FPS boost x 2 |
| 20:04.14 | Industrial | heh I just noticed |
| 20:04.29 | Industrial | when there is a patch you dont need to log in with a correct password to go to the update screen |
| 20:05.03 | Industrial | kind of useless to put the login screen before that then is it :| |
| 20:06.22 | malreth | they should make the launcher download the patches... it already does for some of them |
| 20:06.48 | malreth | i don't know why they make you go past the login screen to update either... |
| 20:07.02 | bleeter | cncfanatics: yeah, framerate's a delicate balance between the Config.wtf settings, and the xorg.conf settings for your driver. There's so many potential combinations, it can be a right pain to hit upon the perfect combination. |
| 20:07.25 | bleeter | for the record, I got to about 25-30 FPS (as opposed to 45 in Win32) and figured 'stuffit, good enough for me' |
| 20:08.18 | cncfanatics | bleeter |
| 20:08.27 | cncfanatics | wget http:///dev/unrandom/Config.wtf |
| 20:08.29 | cncfanatics | :p |
| 20:09.00 | |pez| | auuugh, it's gonna take ages until I finish this damned episode! >__> |
| 20:09.00 | Lunessa | Ok, fooding. back soonish |
| 20:09.39 | cncfanatics | w000t |
| 20:09.44 | cncfanatics | now I can't enable hardware moue though, that sucks |
| 20:09.47 | cncfanatics | but who cares |
| 20:09.51 | cncfanatics | 20 FPS WELCOME BACK |
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| 20:11.06 | cncfanatics | damn this makes me happy |
| 20:11.13 | cncfanatics | now I'm gonna check this config.wtf file and see what makes it so special |
| 20:11.59 | bleeter | at a guess, I'd be looking at the PixelShaders stuff |
| 20:13.39 | cncfanatics | I am |
| 20:13.42 | cncfanatics | guess its there, something |
| 20:13.46 | cncfanatics | I'll just keep this one preciously |
| 20:13.50 | cncfanatics | it actualy works in opengl |
| 20:13.51 | kergoth | what are the attributes (agi, str, wahtever) i should care about for my enh shammy? he's 66, just need to level him to 68 so i can get alchemys pecialization, but i havent played him since tbc came out |
| 20:13.51 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:14.19 | cncfanatics | eh, if you just need him 68 don't care about anything :p |
| 20:14.23 | kergoth | hehe |
| 20:14.36 | kergoth | he was my main ages ago, now he's jsut my alchemist and lw |
| 20:14.43 | kergoth | churning out earthstorms every day |
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| 20:18.12 | foxlit | Hm, generic C stuff |
| 20:18.18 | foxlit | If I declare a pointer to a t |
| 20:18.20 | foxlit | struct |
| 20:18.29 | foxlit | (struct SomeName * varName) |
| 20:18.40 | foxlit | Nothing except the pointer is actually allocated, right? |
| 20:18.55 | cncfanatics | malreth: owned |
| 20:19.00 | cncfanatics | WoW is running smoother then it did on windows |
| 20:19.02 | malreth | Lunessa: HAHA!!! I got called a racist and you're an idiot! |
| 20:19.17 | malreth | cncfanatics: good for you. windows sucks. i run Mac OS X |
| 20:19.26 | malreth | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3773285824&pageNo=2&sid=1#20 |
| 20:20.05 | foxlit | hence getting a pointer then attempting to write data to it would work, but overwrite some very interesting memory adresses |
| 20:21.42 | bleeter | yay for Hortus quotes! "<Hortus> Unfortunately people being jerks is not a bug either. :( " |
| 20:22.05 | bleeter | matter of interest, anyone here got OSX running on x86 hardwre, and tried playing WoW on it? |
| 20:22.18 | cncfanatics | I used to, very very long ago |
| 20:23.09 | foxlit | Why would anyone want to? :) |
| 20:23.15 | foxlit | DX performance > OGL performance |
| 20:24.36 | malreth | bleeter: my fiancee runs WoW on her first gen macbook |
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| 20:26.57 | malreth | <3 alestane |
| 20:27.01 | malreth | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3773335455&pageNo=1&sid=1#17 |
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| 20:38.40 | Lunessa | just got back from fooding. |
| 20:39.01 | Lunessa | I'm apparently an idiot because you know software IS the answer to a hardware problem. |
| 20:39.10 | malreth | and i'm a racist! |
| 20:39.36 | Lunessa | An I run WoW from time to time on my g4 Titanium iBook |
| 20:40.09 | malreth | i loved the titanium ibook |
| 20:40.21 | malreth | :p |
| 20:40.37 | Lunessa | I still have one. I just don't take it everywhere. |
| 20:42.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Ha, slouken's answer is pretty good. |
| 20:44.13 | bleeter | aye |
| 20:44.25 | malreth | ~wiki Prolog |
| 20:45.53 | bleeter | cept I do believe there's no SDL<>Prolog framework. Tho it's bending my mind to even think of one ;) |
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| 20:50.53 | malreth | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3773503086&postId=38815394338&sid=1#47 |
| 20:52.11 | malreth | bbl |
| 20:52.47 | bleeter | hah |
| 20:55.56 | Shirik | batrick: ping |
| 20:58.35 | Industrial | uh i dont get it |
| 20:58.37 | Industrial | my pets xp bar is full |
| 20:58.39 | Industrial | max points |
| 20:58.46 | Industrial | hes level 61 im 70 |
| 20:58.52 | Industrial | I want him leveled but he doesnt level? |
| 20:59.33 | mikma | kill mobs that are green for your pet / for you |
| 21:00.08 | Lunessa | kergoth: For an enhancement shaman, dual-weilding +Hit, +Crit, Attack Power, Str, Agility, Stamina |
| 21:00.10 | Thunder_Child | i had a problem leving my pet at one point as well, cant remember how i fixed it though |
| 21:00.18 | Industrial | ah for me right |
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| 21:03.12 | bleeter | Winers: http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8774 is showing as Fixed in 0.51 or newer. Can folks test this (the infinite loop D3D bug) |
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| 21:03.45 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter: I've never had D3D work acceptably for me in the first place... ;) |
| 21:03.47 | kd3 | heh. zootfizzle just signed up on wowwiki |
| 21:04.16 | bleeter | ooh, why hadn't I seen http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7229 previously (err:ntdll:RtlpWaitForCriticalSection section 0x60d69cc "?" wait timed out in |
| 21:04.19 | bleeter | thread 0029, blocked by 001f, retrying (60 sec) |
| 21:04.27 | ScytheBlade1 | ... that's relevant to me |
| 21:04.30 | bleeter | I mean to say, I've seen the error while playing the game, not the bug report |
| 21:05.07 | Shirik | Why is that a bug? |
| 21:05.30 | bleeter | Shirik: see post #5 |
| 21:06.29 | Bela|work | ok |
| 21:06.33 | Shirik | I still don't see why it's a bug |
| 21:06.37 | Bela|work | I found one thing that I absolutely despise about vista |
| 21:06.54 | Thunder_Child | just one? |
| 21:06.55 | Shirik | Does it fail to provide mutually exclusive access? |
| 21:06.56 | bleeter | Shirik: things shouldn't infinite loop? |
| 21:06.59 | Bela|work | they really should never have axed the ability to edit file type associations |
| 21:07.05 | Shirik | Oh I understood that as a "it's supposed to" |
| 21:07.10 | Thunder_Child | Bela|work, they didnt |
| 21:07.16 | Bela|work | yes they did |
| 21:07.17 | Shirik | ~lart Bela|work |
| 21:07.17 | purl | accelerates a free AOL cd to 50,000 rpm and lets Bela|work feel it |
| 21:07.21 | art3mis | http://www.cafepress.com/buy//-/pv_design_details/pg_1/id_19172157/opt_/fpt_fHBa__DB_________bRH_P___e/c_667/ |
| 21:07.22 | Thunder_Child | Bela|work, no |
| 21:07.22 | Shirik | I change them all the time.... |
| 21:07.26 | Bela|work | you can change associations |
| 21:07.27 | art3mis | nerd shirt! |
| 21:07.29 | Bela|work | but I am talking granular |
| 21:07.30 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 21:07.37 | Thunder_Child | granular? |
| 21:07.38 | Bela|work | icons, specific DDE instructions |
| 21:07.39 | Shirik | Bela|work, you're crazy >< |
| 21:07.48 | Thunder_Child | icons yes |
| 21:07.55 | Thunder_Child | the second part i dont know |
| 21:08.04 | bleeter | Shirik: sorry, my bad... lemme try again. The program in post #5 forces an infinite loop to demonstrate the issue. |
| 21:08.11 | Bela|work | ok how do I do icons without using regedit? |
| 21:08.11 | bleeter | at least, that's how I understand it. |
| 21:10.03 | Thunder_Child | Bela|work, nvm i was thinking about something else |
| 21:10.14 | art3mis | http://www.cafepress.com/buy/invader+zim/-/pv_design_details/pg_1/id_9291818/opt_/fpt_/c_666/ |
| 21:13.36 | Shirik | and I missed the last word Bela|work said, kinda important |
| 21:13.51 | Shirik | however, Bela|work, I should point out that DDE does not exist in Vista. |
| 21:14.12 | Shirik | Thus the ability to change "specific DDE instructions" is kinda irrelevant |
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| 21:15.18 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, what last word? |
| 21:15.39 | Shirik | whether or not the removal of that was useful is, however, still under question. |
| 21:15.43 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: "Associations" |
| 21:16.05 | Thunder_Child | oh |
| 21:17.36 | Shirik | oh well I'm going to go get some sleep |
| 21:17.38 | Shirik | peace |
| 21:17.59 | Bela|work | thats strange, since there are default vista programs in the registry right now that are using DDE |
| 21:18.06 | Bela|work | 0.o |
| 21:18.38 | art3mis | its ficticious |
| 21:18.38 | End | I can confirm that they removed NetDDE |
| 21:18.48 | Bela|work | its probably a stub |
| 21:18.48 | End | but I don't see anything about DDE being removed |
| 21:18.50 | art3mis | like the "windows security module" |
| 21:18.52 | Bela|work | for backwards compat |
| 21:19.24 | art3mis | is mmx still sued in a completely semi related note? |
| 21:19.32 | art3mis | used |
| 21:24.13 | Industrial | question; does Scorpid poison get modified by any palyer stats? |
| 21:25.00 | Industrial | im gatting a scorpid for pvp but i wonder about pve dps |
| 21:25.01 | laindir | it used to scale significantly with RAP, not sure if that's still the case |
| 21:25.02 | zenzelezz | think it's somewhat affected by AP |
| 21:25.09 | Industrial | k |
| 21:25.10 | zenzelezz | it scales, but not as much |
| 21:25.20 | zenzelezz | could be only RAP, not AP, can't recall |
| 21:25.23 | Lunessa | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3773335455&postId=38815495075&sid=1#21 |
| 21:26.58 | ScytheBlade1 | 'The question is, at which point in time did blz invest so heavily in "Anti-Fun Advocacy"? ' Mmm, Noixi. |
| 21:27.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Good(?) to know he still hasn't changed yet. |
| 21:28.07 | Lunessa | I "nicely" called him an idiot. |
| 21:28.21 | ScytheBlade1 | I should pull up some of his posts in the past |
| 21:29.00 | ScytheBlade1 | That didn't take long |
| 21:29.01 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3773254040&postId=37729061722&sid=1#62 |
| 21:29.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, and have some fear-mongering: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3773315644&postId=38796091454&sid=1#0 |
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| 21:31.07 | ScytheBlade1 | I'll leave it at this: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3773317987&postId=37728785977&sid=1#4 |
| 21:31.18 | Lunessa | "But before I get started, I want to CHASTISE the sour-puss blue's for ruining a really good thread yesterday that celebrated and heralded the release of this patch. Frankly, I think they owe Crepe and I an apology. " That's going to win him some friends. |
| 21:31.33 | ScytheBlade1 | And suggest if you want to spend a few hours of your life shaking your head and wondering what he's on, look at his post history. |
| 21:32.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, I lied. Last link. http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3773254040&postId=37729261576&sid=1#16 |
| 21:32.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Troll troll troll your boat |
| 21:32.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Urge to post rising |
| 21:34.39 | Lunessa | So he's an idiot. He's the kind of idiot that would show up to play D&D at your house and then argue with your for 3 hours about how you're "doing it wrong" and eventually you'd have to get a restraining order against. |
| 21:35.09 | ScytheBlade1 | He's the annoying one who won't shut up, yeah |
| 21:35.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Seriously, just look at his post history. |
| 21:36.41 | Lunessa | I've seen enough. |
| 21:36.45 | bleeter | Lunessa: that's so quotable |
| 21:37.00 | Lunessa | Feel free to add it to purl |
| 21:37.06 | ScytheBlade1 | If he posts something stupid in that thread again, I'll pop in |
| 21:37.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Fun time will ensue |
| 21:37.16 | bleeter | I was just gunna reword it and pop it into the thread |
| 21:38.44 | bleeter | oh, yeah.. I've retired Mathinna from the forums for a while. Using Rugen now. |
| 21:38.46 | Lunessa | Feel free. Sans attribution. |
| 21:39.04 | bleeter | Lunessa: yeah, that was the rewording. |
| 21:39.08 | Lunessa | :D |
| 21:40.04 | bleeter | Lunessa: given the new sig I picked up this morning, I think it's even more appropriate ;) |
| 21:40.26 | ScytheBlade1 | lol, was he in here some time ago? Or is that you just spoofing stuff? |
| 21:40.27 | Lunessa | linkee? |
| 21:40.33 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3773335455&sid=1&pageNo=2#22 |
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| 21:42.27 | Bela|work | I couldn't resist adding a reply to thast IF-THEN thread |
| 21:42.28 | bleeter | zenzelezz: |pez|'s b/f might light getting poked |
| 21:42.32 | Lunessa | lol |
| 21:42.38 | bleeter | s/light/like/ |
| 21:42.52 | Bela|work | I think I was very pragmatic |
| 21:43.04 | Duman | heh |
| 21:43.25 | ScytheBlade1 | I really want him to just slightly overstep his bounds |
| 21:43.27 | |pez| | bleeter: he's more of a poker really. ;P |
| 21:43.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Second he does, I'll post, and he'll detonate |
| 21:43.33 | Duman | o.O |
| 21:43.39 | |pez| | and, on another note, do I leave myself open for attacks, because of the words I use? XD |
| 21:44.16 | bleeter | |pez|: yes, but that's nothing unusual. by that I mean, this is IRC, and folks will look for double and triple entendres in anything |
| 21:44.35 | art3mis | |pez|: i think its more for the implied boobies than anything |
| 21:44.56 | |pez| | I did not even mention boobies in any way! XD |
| 21:45.13 | art3mis | thus the "implied" state of you having them |
| 21:45.20 | Lunessa | |pez| Not so much attacks, as good-natured geek flirtery |
| 21:45.37 | |pez| | Lunessa: there's a difference? :o |
| 21:46.02 | Lunessa | Yes. When geeks attack, they do so to DESTROY MAIN KILL BURN AND SALT THE EARTH |
| 21:46.04 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:46.31 | |pez| | art3mis? |
| 21:46.37 | |pez| | Lunessa: Ahaa |
| 21:46.41 | Lunessa | art3mis: error - access denied /dev/pez |
| 21:47.44 | |pez| | I'll go poke my boyfriend with my boobies now, and see if promises of boobs will actually make him go make me food. >__> |
| 21:47.54 | End | boobies!? |
| 21:48.04 | End | ;-P |
| 21:48.23 | |pez| | I could ofcourse just strip, but then it wouldn't be much food makin going on. :P |
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| 21:50.40 | Thunder_Child | depends on how hungry you are |
| 21:50.47 | bleeter | I was AFK... and I missed the boobies! :( |
| 21:51.56 | |pez| | Awww |
| 21:54.13 | art3mis | lunessa: damn i knew i sued the wrong switch ;P |
| 21:54.18 | art3mis | err "switch" |
| 21:54.28 | Lunessa | Should have logged in as Root |
| 21:54.35 | art3mis | ~rimshot |
| 21:54.36 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
| 21:54.59 | Lunessa | Thank you. Thank you. I'm here all week. |
| 21:55.21 | art3mis | vacation;look;find;talk;grep;touch;finger;find;flex;unzip;mount;workbone;fsck;yes;gasp;fsck;yes;eject;umount;make clean;zip;split;done;exit |
| 21:55.27 | art3mis | try the fish? |
| 21:55.47 | zenzelezz | I never found that funny actually :-/ I'm a bad geek |
| 21:57.08 | art3mis | do you run unix? |
| 21:57.27 | art3mis | have you ever done a floppy disc install of slackware? |
| 21:57.45 | art3mis | do you remember which sets you needed to download? |
| 21:58.08 | art3mis | if you answered no to any of these you were never a good geek ;) |
| 21:58.46 | Lunessa | art3mis > dev/null |
| 21:59.22 | art3mis | http://www.bbspot.com/News/2008/01/top-11-reasons-you-have-not-installed-linux-yet.html |
| 22:00.04 | zenzelezz | art3mis: I understand it, I just don't find it funny |
| 22:00.07 | art3mis | QUOTE OF THE WEEK |
| 22:00.07 | art3mis | It takes only one drink to get me drunk. The trouble is, I can't remember if it's the thirteenth or the fourteenth. |
| 22:00.07 | art3mis | -George Burns |
| 22:01.39 | Lunessa | George Burns was a god among men. |
| 22:01.43 | art3mis | http://www.firstshowing.net/2007/12/18/why-2008-will-be-an-awesome-year-for-movies/ <--- some not bad movies on there |
| 22:01.49 | art3mis | yes he was |
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| 22:02.04 | art3mis | it was a punishment though that he lived as long as he did |
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| 22:02.19 | art3mis | all he ever wanted was to be with Gracie |
| 22:02.33 | art3mis | oh and on a similar note |
| 22:02.40 | Lunessa | She was a pretty amazing woman in her own right. |
| 22:02.50 | art3mis | i think im offended that someone would make a rip off comedy movie about Johnny Cash |
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| 22:03.11 | art3mis | tere are some things you just don't do |
| 22:03.14 | art3mis | there |
| 22:03.24 | Thunder_Child | art3mis, we offend you daily |
| 22:03.24 | art3mis | mocking the man in black is one of them |
| 22:03.32 | Thunder_Child | no one cares |
| 22:03.38 | art3mis | Thunder_Child: you've got that backwards ;P |
| 22:03.45 | Thunder_Child | no, no i dont |
| 22:03.55 | art3mis | how do you offend me? |
| 22:04.03 | art3mis | i mean aside from existing |
| 22:04.57 | Thunder_Child | well, that 1 |
| 22:05.00 | Thunder_Child | thats* |
| 22:05.25 | Thunder_Child | i could offend you by saying that no one cares about cash |
| 22:07.07 | Lunessa | I'm offended. |
| 22:07.13 | Thunder_Child | good |
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| 22:11.38 | art3mis | i'd know you were lying though |
| 22:12.09 | art3mis | and know in a purely semantical sense that you were wrong as *I* care for Cash ;P |
| 22:13.04 | Lunessa | I fell into a burning ring of fire. |
| 22:15.29 | art3mis | hehe thats whats in my head too |
| 22:15.42 | art3mis | and i mean really |
| 22:16.00 | art3mis | what other "country" star could take a cover of a nine inch nails song and make it better |
| 22:16.08 | bleeter | Slim Dusty |
| 22:16.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, wow |
| 22:16.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Turning on sound with wine DESTROYS my framerate |
| 22:17.11 | bleeter | 'cept (a) Slim's dead (b) never recorded a NIN song |
| 22:17.45 | art3mis | oh and Craig Daniels is gonna stick with being bond |
| 22:17.51 | art3mis | thats kinna rad |
| 22:17.57 | art3mis | i think he did a GREAT job |
| 22:18.12 | art3mis | all sean connery style Bond |
| 22:18.35 | bleeter | whilst on random entertainment topics, I'm shocked that (a) Reg Hollis got sacked and (b) the actor who played him tried to take his own life |
| 22:18.56 | bleeter | prolly only UK and Oceanics understand me |
| 22:19.27 | art3mis | prolly |
| 22:19.39 | art3mis | backstory! |
| 22:19.51 | Tain | You kids have no culture. Trying to bag on Johnny Cash. |
| 22:20.04 | bleeter | where did I do that? |
| 22:20.17 | art3mis | yuo need some new glasses gramps |
| 22:20.23 | Tain | Get off my lawn! |
| 22:20.27 | art3mis | heh |
| 22:20.48 | art3mis | hey can't you kids read! it says keep off the dog! |
| 22:20.55 | Lunessa | Who is Reg Hollis? |
| 22:21.16 | Tain | Can anyone point me in the direction of some decent Rogue PVP guides? (lvl 70) |
| 22:21.26 | bleeter | Lunessa: geek/nerd character in a UK TV cop show |
| 22:21.36 | Lunessa | ah |
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| 22:21.49 | bleeter | he'd been on the show for... 20+ years |
| 22:21.51 | art3mis | tain go stealth, stun lock your opponent avoid shaman with totems down and dot waste vanishing dust when dotted ;P |
| 22:22.07 | art3mis | dont |
| 22:22.17 | art3mis | other than that its the same as any video game |
| 22:22.22 | art3mis | shoot. kill. don't die |
| 22:22.40 | art3mis | that strat holds true for every video game ever made EXCEPT tetris |
| 22:23.08 | bleeter | pong doesn't have kills |
| 22:23.14 | art3mis | yes it does |
| 22:23.44 | art3mis | you "shoot" the ball, and score points to "kill" your opponent, and hope he doesnt score enough to make you "die" |
| 22:24.17 | art3mis | funy enough i actually had to think about pong before i typed only tetris and hit enter ;) |
| 22:24.30 | bleeter | that's certainly an interesting take on how tennis is played :P |
| 22:24.45 | art3mis | you've never watched mcenroe play ;P |
| 22:24.59 | bleeter | he was trying to kill the refs, not the players doh |
| 22:25.07 | art3mis | heh |
| 22:25.21 | art3mis | kill == eliminate |
| 22:25.37 | art3mis | eliminate == death |
| 22:25.42 | art3mis | see it all works out ;P |
| 22:26.11 | art3mis | i managed an arcade for 1.5 years |
| 22:26.29 | art3mis | we had this slightly autistic guy in the arcade 90% of it's open hours |
| 22:26.44 | art3mis | he'd say things like "dot get hit by that or you'll die" |
| 22:26.46 | art3mis | dont |
| 22:26.55 | art3mis | it was mostly amusing |
| 22:27.08 | bleeter | you've got dots on the brain |
| 22:27.14 | art3mis | i think so |
| 22:27.21 | art3mis | ive been up for about 27 hours |
| 22:27.25 | |pez| | woo, food is in teh oven! |
| 22:27.26 | art3mis | it's excusable |
| 22:27.39 | art3mis | at least it's not a bun in the oven ;P |
| 22:27.48 | bleeter | art3mis: bun might be food |
| 22:28.03 | |pez| | *nodnod* |
| 22:28.06 | Lunessa | 30 minutes. Not bad for a quickie |
| 22:28.13 | bleeter | got an RPer in our guild who swears he eats babies |
| 22:28.14 | art3mis | not when she was talking about poking her BF with boobs it wouldnt be ;P |
| 22:28.46 | |pez| | ... |
| 22:28.52 | bleeter | art3mis: they could be *very* strong swimmers |
| 22:29.36 | Lunessa | |pez|: I just checked time-stamps on your posts. *wink* all in good fun. |
| 22:29.39 | |pez| | I'll go sit in the corner and pretend that you're all same. |
| 22:29.47 | art3mis | we are all the same |
| 22:29.57 | |pez| | sane! |
| 22:29.59 | |pez| | not same |
| 22:30.00 | |pez| | sane |
| 22:30.04 | art3mis | you typed same |
| 22:30.09 | |pez| | I meant sane! |
| 22:30.27 | bleeter | |pez|: you're insane! :P |
| 22:30.37 | |pez| | I know! |
| 22:30.45 | |pez| | But don't tell anyone about it please |
| 22:31.02 | art3mis | tere's a fine line between insanity and a man sitting on the beach fishing |
| 22:31.30 | art3mis | would it be a popup book? |
| 22:31.43 | bleeter | and scratch and sniff? |
| 22:31.59 | art3mis | that would depend o time of day im guessing ;P |
| 22:32.36 | |pez| | perverted nerd attaaack! |
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| 22:33.41 | art3mis | ales! |
| 22:33.46 | Lunessa | nerds/geeks are usually perverts. Perverts are not usually nerds/geeks |
| 22:34.11 | art3mis | nerds/geeks find painting Free candy on the side of a beat up white van funny |
| 22:34.14 | bleeter | Lunessa: speaking from experience? or first hand knowledge? and no, the 5th don't apply in IRC :P |
| 22:34.23 | art3mis | perverts over think and find it far to obvious |
| 22:35.13 | Lunessa | bleeter: I'm an alpha geek and I KNOW I'm a pervert. |
| 22:36.09 | Lunessa | so much QQ over NECB author quitting. |
| 22:36.35 | bleeter | didn't you know authors of free software aren't allowed to have their own lives? |
| 22:36.47 | bleeter | it's rule #1 of free software |
| 22:36.56 | Lunessa | Of course not! They're chained to something FOREVER |
| 22:37.17 | Lunessa | This is reason #236 why Lunessa doesn't release AddOns. |
| 22:37.19 | bleeter | yeah, witness me still being 'tied' to gaim/pidgin ;) |
| 22:37.35 | Lunessa | Really? |
| 22:37.46 | Lunessa | You know I'm one of the original AIM team? |
| 22:38.45 | reqol | how can I set a right click to a spell with SetAttribute? *spell2 doesn't work |
| 22:39.21 | alestane | reqol: what's the 'type'? |
| 22:39.37 | Thunder_Child | is there a console command to leave a party? |
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| 22:40.37 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:41.06 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:41.28 | art3mis | or something close to that |
| 22:41.33 | Antiarc | I like telling people that to leave a group, you type /gquit |
| 22:41.46 | art3mis | heh |
| 22:42.08 | bleeter | have folks seen the 'remove the afk debuff' scam in BG's? |
| 22:42.10 | alestane | Okay, random question: I have strong across-the-board computer skills, including programming knowledge and hardware skills, I like to help other people and work collaberatively, I have visual design experience as well. What career should I be pursuing and how, because I keep running up against this "but what do I actually want to do?" bump. I have lots of experience but it's all sort of diffuse rather than deep and specialized, and |
| 22:42.21 | bleeter | 'to remove the afk debuff, type /afk remove' or similar |
| 22:42.21 | Thunder_Child | ok, thanks art3mis |
| 22:42.44 | Thunder_Child | alestane, whatever you like doing best |
| 22:42.58 | alestane | Thunder_Child: Still trying to work that out. |
| 22:43.09 | Lunessa | alestane: And that's how I ended up at a university. |
| 22:43.19 | bleeter | alestane: if you're up to it, advertise your skills as sysadmin, as inevitably that touches on every area of IT in an organisation, and you can use that to find where you want to 'go' with your career. |
| 22:43.22 | Antiarc | alestane: That's what you go to university to find out, usually :) |
| 22:43.29 | batrick | reqol: i have a portal menu in Spellcraft you're welcome to use/modify/destroy etc. |
| 22:43.32 | Antiarc | alestane: I'd advise you to join an open source project that interests you |
| 22:43.34 | alestane | Game programming seems like a natural but it seems like you have to work in it at a hobby level before anyone considers hiring you. |
| 22:43.41 | Antiarc | That'll tell you if you really love programming, or project management, or whatever |
| 22:44.05 | alestane | Antiarc: I was thinking along those lines, any suggestions for finding some? Just browse sourceforge? |
| 22:44.11 | bleeter | alestane: yes, and what Antiarc suggested is good, too... find an open source project or two that either (a) sounds interesting to you (b) you currently use but has some itches you think need scratching |
| 22:44.26 | Antiarc | alestane: Sourceforge, or heck, even a WoW addon project |
| 22:44.39 | Thunder_Child | personally i found that i perfer to play a game than make it |
| 22:44.46 | Thunder_Child | though i would love to design one |
| 22:44.48 | alestane | I mean, that's how I got started writing mods, trying to fix the things that bugged me about WoW. |
| 22:45.08 | Beladona | I went the sysadmin route, while hobbying in programming and graphics. But that is probably not a good model to follow because I still can't decide which I like best |
| 22:45.34 | alestane | I think I'm a decent programmer if I can work with someone else who can take part of the project. I usually get bogged down in seeing how much of a project I still have left. |
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| 22:46.48 | alestane | My biggest issue with projects right now is that the one that attracts me the most is cleaning up the stock blizzard UI under the hood, and getting my changes accepted runs into a whole other can of worms. |
| 22:48.34 | cladhaire | well they have people that are hired to (and do) this on a regular basis |
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| 22:48.45 | cladhaire | and they have enough difficulty getting theirs accepted into the QA cycle :P |
| 22:49.31 | alestane | My main issue right now is that I keep getting random jobs to pay the bills, getting bored of them, and having to change jobs again. I'm trying to pin down what I actually want to do. |
| 22:50.01 | cladhaire | aye, that's always a difficult thing to deal with |
| 22:50.47 | reqol | batrick: I would take you up on that offer if this wasn't finished save for the minimap button's right click spell :( |
| 22:51.14 | batrick | what's the code i'll take a look |
| 22:51.17 | reqol | currently it's set as SetAttribute("type", "spell") SetAttribute("*spell2", "Portal: Shattrath") |
| 22:51.27 | |pez| | we will now eat the food we made, and watch a movie! |
| 22:51.32 | |pez| | byebye! |
| 22:51.45 | bleeter | alestane: if it's any comfort, I'm prolly one of the older folks in this #, and I still have nfi what I 'want to do' |
| 22:51.49 | bleeter | cya |pez| |
| 22:52.01 | alestane | Of course, on one level I feel like I have a pretty good notion of what I'd ideally like to do, but it's not really an entry level field: I have affinities for several aspects of game development, including programming, design, modeiling, art direction and music direction. I have some training in management and a little small business experience. Add it al up and it seems to equal 'producer', but that doesn't seem to be a job you j |
| 22:52.26 | bleeter | alestane: chopped at 'to be a job you j' |
| 22:52.37 | alestane | ...jsut walk up and ask for. |
| 22:52.48 | bleeter | producer is something you create yourself |
| 22:53.05 | bleeter | maybe you should look at picking up some business skills, and get into production that way? |
| 22:53.22 | alestane | I have a friend who's actually in an online degree in game design, I keep thinking we should sit down and prototype something. |
| 22:53.22 | Thunder_Child | odd, 2 keys on my keyboard just stoped working |
| 22:53.54 | alestane | But in the mean time I have bills to pay, so whatever path I'm building I still need something semi-regular. |
| 22:53.58 | Beladona | was it w and t? with f soon to give out? |
| 22:54.09 | Thunder_Child | ...wtf Beladona |
| 22:54.13 | bleeter | lol Beladona |
| 22:54.13 | Beladona | hehe |
| 22:54.31 | Thunder_Child | the 2 to the right of [ just died |
| 22:54.38 | Thunder_Child | kinda odd that |
| 22:54.49 | alestane | Local computer and electronics consulting maybe. My years at RadioShack suggest that any number of people need someone to come set up their home theater system. |
| 22:54.59 | reqol | http://wowi.pastey.net/80415 here is the XML, let me put up the lua |
| 22:55.13 | alestane | I just shudder at the thought of the promotional work required. |
| 22:55.16 | Thunder_Child | alestane, yout years at radioshak suggest that most people are stupid |
| 22:55.26 | Thunder_Child | s/yout/i bet/ |
| 22:55.29 | bleeter | alestane: that's so true, more so recently now that media centers and like are becoming popular |
| 22:55.49 | reqol | http://wowi.pastey.net/80416 is the lua |
| 22:56.17 | bleeter | tho, on the other hand, these days kids grow up kinda learning this stuff instinctively, so if the market's there I'd suggest it for the 35+ y/o, even more so for the 55+ y/o's |
| 22:56.22 | alestane | I find that freelancing helps stop me from getting bored, since your job changes a little every time. |
| 22:56.46 | batrick | think i'm losing my mind i can't pastey stuff on wowi.pastey |
| 22:56.52 | alestane | Thunder_Child: It did often suggest that, yes. That's why they can't set up their own damn home theater. |
| 22:56.56 | batrick | isnt' there supposed to be a submit button lol |
| 22:57.34 | Thunder_Child | alestane, somehow i feel that it is more that just not being able to setup a home theater system |
| 22:58.02 | alestane | But months of searching job postings on monster have discouraged me about conventional job searches. |
| 22:58.45 | batrick | reqol: you're probably getting a silly error from something loading before something else |
| 22:58.52 | reqol | ill check the xml log |
| 22:59.59 | alestane | Well, thanks for listening/suggestions. |
| 23:00.19 | reqol | no errors there |
| 23:00.26 | Beladona | I never got anywhere with those searches |
| 23:00.29 | reqol | the left click works fine, just not the right click |
| 23:00.33 | batrick | firefox isn't putting that button up correctly |
| 23:00.37 | Beladona | in fact my current job was stumbled upon by accident |
| 23:00.37 | batrick | no wonder i couldn't find it |
| 23:00.43 | Beladona | they actually fired their sysadmin to hire me |
| 23:01.05 | batrick | reqol: you might need to do SetAttribute("type2", "spell") |
| 23:03.19 | Thunder_Child | alestane, i can guaranty we will always listen, i just cant guaranty that our suggestions will be good....or helpfull...or even on the topic in any way.... |
| 23:03.19 | reqol | batrick: didn't work |
| 23:03.38 | Thunder_Child | guarantee* |
| 23:03.39 | alestane | Beladona: I actually recently almost got a job at a NOC through a friend. Then their hiring manager postponed my interview and then emailed me that they pursuing another candidate rather than rescheduling the interview. My friend says she's a bit of a flake and probably looking for other work herself, and to hang in there, he's keeping my resume. |
| 23:04.18 | batrick | reqol: what you did looks ok, check spelling? |
| 23:04.38 | Thunder_Child | meh i was a NOC....not any fun at all, cant use any of the knowledge that you have really |
| 23:04.51 | batrick | although, you have the right button set for RegisterForDrag? is that intended? |
| 23:05.01 | reqol | yes |
| 23:05.11 | reqol | shift right click drags |
| 23:05.14 | reqol | right click portals |
| 23:05.28 | reqol | also, my shift handler doesn't work. it doesn't recognize it as an object method apparently |
| 23:05.40 | nevcairiel | is there a { } pair around your function? |
| 23:05.42 | nevcairiel | remove that :P |
| 23:05.52 | batrick | you can't move it in combat, not even through blizzard's system |
| 23:06.18 | Thunder_Child | s/NOC/NOCO/ |
| 23:06.49 | reqol | nev: it gives me an error when there isn't one |
| 23:07.12 | nevcairiel | http://wowi.pastey.net/80421 ? |
| 23:07.14 | nevcairiel | that should work |
| 23:07.16 | reqol | hold on |
| 23:07.25 | batrick | reqol: try ShiftRightClick instead of RightClick in RegisterForDrag |
| 23:08.45 | batrick | ShiftRightButton** |
| 23:10.07 | batrick | anyway this is why i don't use xml for my addons :) |
| 23:10.35 | reqol | nev: I don't think it's even calling the function on shift click, I added some debug text that is not showing |
| 23:10.41 | reqol | batrick: ShiftRightButton doesn't work |
| 23:11.08 | batrick | try removing register for drag for now and see if you can right click your spell |
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| 23:12.22 | reqol | batrick: nothing ;_; |
| 23:12.33 | clad|sleep | anyone have wow +devtools to test something for me? |
| 23:12.56 | clad|sleep | when you aggro a mob and get attacked.. what fires first, UNIT_COMBAT or PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED |
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| 23:14.39 | reqol | clad: i'll do it, how can I set it up |
| 23:14.48 | reqol | I only use it for /rl and /dump |
| 23:14.48 | clad|sleep | just run /dtevents |
| 23:14.54 | reqol | okay |
| 23:14.57 | clad|sleep | and then aggro something and watch :P |
| 23:16.46 | batrick | clad is subtly trying to kill you reqol, don't doit |
| 23:17.31 | foxlit | Killing in his sleep, is he? |
| 23:19.38 | reqol | UNIT_COMBAT only fires on my attacks as far as this shows |
| 23:19.59 | clad|sleep | nah, it definitely fires when you're hit |
| 23:20.12 | clad|sleep | I got what I needed (my bf responded) |
| 23:20.14 | clad|sleep | thanks tho :P |
| 23:20.53 | reqol | ;_; |
| 23:21.00 | reqol | there were so many events, it was tantalizing |
| 23:21.31 | reqol | so, any update on why you guys think my shifthandler and right click spell don't work? |
| 23:21.58 | reqol | I don't think the shifthandler is getting called at all |
| 23:23.03 | batrick | no idea |
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| 23:26.44 | bleeter | does /dtevents have filters? |
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| 23:28.38 | clad|sleep | i don't think so, no |
| 23:28.40 | clad|sleep | its just a full dump |
| 23:28.53 | clad|sleep | but you can scroll up and filter through :P |
| 23:29.21 | bleeter | I think I'd just hack it to use norg's nlog ;) |
| 23:30.23 | Thunder_Child | hmmm...i wonder if the 11 points is worth the icy veins for a fire mage |
| 23:30.34 | AnduinLothar | 2s fireball |
| 23:30.45 | AnduinLothar | my guildies were cheering for it |
| 23:30.51 | Thunder_Child | only 20s every 3m though |
| 23:31.04 | bleeter | AnduinLothar: be aware the tooltip's wrong, it's haste increase not speed |
| 23:31.38 | AnduinLothar | not a mage, just going by what they were saying |
| 23:32.17 | bleeter | yeah, I'm in two minds about it... I won't get a chance for a week or two to try it in a raid |
| 23:32.29 | bleeter | personally I'm more excited about the three charges on the mana gem |
| 23:32.37 | reqol | bleeter: me too |
| 23:33.39 | Lunessa | Mostly all I can be excited about right now is an asprin. |
| 23:34.20 | Thunder_Child | so...2 asprins? |
| 23:37.33 | Lunessa | fuck... maybe a heavy-duty pain drug. |
| 23:37.43 | Lunessa | Codine |
| 23:39.17 | Tem | AnduinLothar, it's not a 2s fireball |
| 23:39.44 | Tem | it's a 20% haste not 20% casting time reduction |
| 23:40.24 | Tem | so 3.5 second fireballs become 2.92s |
| 23:40.31 | Tem | a 3s fireball becomes 2.5 sec |
| 23:42.10 | foxlit | 20% haste decreases casting time by...? |
| 23:45.34 | reqol | is there a better secure frames overview than the one on wowwiki? |
| 23:47.18 | Tem | ie, instead of multiplying by .8 to get the new casting time, you divide by 1.2 |
| 23:49.33 | Polarina | Patch 2.3.2 broke my addon horribly and they didn't even change the interface number! |
| 23:49.53 | Cide | addons are unsupported, sucks to be you |
| 23:50.28 | cogwheel | Polarina: did you test it on the ptr that has been live for the past month and a half? |
| 23:50.36 | Polarina | cogwheel: Yes. |
| 23:52.40 | reqol | I don't think spell2 works; I just tried it on an entirely different button that is also a secure action button and it didn't work either |
| 23:54.49 | Lunessa | So you think you can tell Heaven from Hell? Damned straight. Heaven is when this headache stops. Hell is living iwth it now. |
| 23:56.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | HEAVEN OR HELL? |
| 23:56.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | DUEL 1, LET'S ROCK |
| 23:56.46 | Duman | heh |
| 23:57.58 | Lunessa | I'm out. going home to advil and a dark room. See you guys later. |
