| 00:11.16 | Fin | cladhaire: ping? |
| 00:13.56 | Thunder_Child | "I had to shoot you, or otherwise they would have murderd you" |
| 00:16.58 | Corrodias | the thing about mailboxes is that you need to l2p |
| 00:18.54 | Corrodias | and i ran, i ran so far away |
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| 00:53.37 | kd3 | bah, damn it. timestamps |
| 00:58.02 | Thunder_Child | kd3, i at least wont need a locksmith |
| 00:58.16 | kd3 | har |
| 01:18.59 | Iriel | Well, making the bit. functions upvalues and making a couple of other minor adjustments shaves 25% off the execution time of Polarina's code |
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| 01:46.07 | alestane | Anyone have any suspicions/assertions about whether we'll finally get 2.3.2 live this week? |
| 01:46.55 | batrick | lol that still isn't live? |
| 01:48.44 | alestane | No, no it's not. I'm not entirely sure but I think it's stability rather than new features that's holding it up. |
| 01:49.20 | Beladona | that and holidays |
| 01:49.25 | alestane | A lot of people were going on about an "issue with the GCD" for a lot of development. |
| 01:49.26 | Beladona | even Blizz peeps need days off |
| 01:49.36 | alestane | And yes, the last two tuesdays were US holidays. |
| 01:49.57 | alestane | I would have been rather surprised if the patch had gone live on Christmas morning. |
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| 02:03.28 | cogwheel | alestane: :( @ your sig not fitting all the way |
| 02:03.46 | alestane | ? |
| 02:03.50 | alestane | I'd better look. |
| 02:05.52 | alestane | Hmm yes. Does anyone understand the response I got in the taint log thread? |
| 02:06.20 | cogwheel | Thank you. Thank you very much. Your hamburger is vrey big |
| 02:06.41 | cogwheel | (intentional typo on "vrey" to match ;) |
| 02:07.39 | Iriel | alestane: Which thread? |
| 02:08.23 | alestane | Iriel: Cogwheel got it. cogwheel: I mistyped. I understand what he wrote. That doesn't mean it makes any sense to me. |
| 02:08.51 | cogwheel | i know... i was just beeing a smart ass :P |
| 02:08.55 | cogwheel | -e |
| 02:09.45 | alestane | Apparently I was flying pretty close to the max sig length. I got the critical part back in. |
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| 02:12.28 | alestane | So I figure one of three things will happen to this "Lud" fellow: 1) He'll get suspended/banned; 2) he'll get bored and leave, or; 3) he'll have some kind of Damascus experience and become useful. Any bets? |
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| 02:13.08 | Shirik | OKAY |
| 02:13.21 | Shirik | which one of you newfangled MVPs deleted my thread >.> I know it was you cogwheel |
| 02:13.38 | Seerah | what thread? |
| 02:13.41 | Shirik | hey there it is |
| 02:13.44 | Iriel | We can't delete threads Shirik |
| 02:13.52 | Shirik | I know I was just looking for someone to blame |
| 02:13.53 | Iriel | though if we could I'd be sure to find some of yours |
| 02:13.59 | Iriel | just so you could complain legitimately |
| 02:14.00 | Seerah | he was testing you :P |
| 02:15.15 | batrick | Iriel he's finding the extent of your powers... |
| 02:15.24 | Iriel | At least the extent of my admitted powers |
| 02:18.06 | cogwheel | ~fail Shirik |
| 02:18.07 | purl | Shirik: Fail. |
| 02:18.32 | Shirik | Iriel could run me into the ground so quickly I'd still be staring at my screen going "... wait, what?" |
| 02:19.03 | cogwheel | can't separate officer & guild in default ui |
| 02:19.11 | Shirik | huh? |
| 02:19.17 | Shirik | It's right there, the little check boxes |
| 02:19.36 | cogwheel | guild has a checkbox that includes both guild and officer |
| 02:20.07 | Seerah | you need a mod if you want to separate them |
| 02:21.38 | Iriel | WTF: Draka is full! |
| 02:21.49 | Shirik | owned. |
| 02:22.09 | Shirik | oh wow |
| 02:22.13 | Shirik | Drenden put me in a queue too |
| 02:22.21 | Shirik | something's wrong, Drenden has nobody on it |
| 02:22.21 | Shirik | ever. |
| 02:22.31 | Shirik | Granted I was in queue for all of about 2 seconds |
| 02:22.37 | Shirik | But I saw it |
| 02:23.42 | Seerah | Alexstrasza had a queue of 253. Since I transferred last week, highest I'd ever seen was 80 |
| 02:23.54 | Iriel | In theory you'd just have to take officer out of ChatTypeGroup["GUILD"] and make a new group, then add it to ChatMenuChatTypeGroups |
| 02:24.30 | Shirik | no you don't understand |
| 02:24.31 | batrick | I found this amazing posix threading book at the library, anybody read "Programming with POSIX Threads" by David Butenhof? |
| 02:24.37 | Shirik | I'm talking about a server where if you do /who Shattrath |
| 02:24.41 | Shirik | you get something like "20 people found" |
| 02:25.06 | alestane | Bloodhoof used to get 450-person queues before the hardware upgrades. |
| 02:25.12 | Seerah | perhaps there is something up with the servers |
| 02:25.21 | Seerah | so did my orig server, Whisperwind |
| 02:25.30 | Shirik | batrick: No, but in all honesty I am absolutely amazed by the QNX documentation |
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| 02:25.46 | Shirik | you may be interested in reading it as QNX is fully POSIX compliant and they have a good discussion of pthreads |
| 02:25.46 | Seerah | upgrades, a freetransfer to a pvp server, and realm split threats changed that |
| 02:25.56 | alestane | Eight operators on channel at once, this is a first for me. |
| 02:26.23 | Seerah | woot! I'm in the game! (of course, right before dinner is finished -.- ) |
| 02:26.23 | Fin | queue of what, please? |
| 02:26.25 | Shirik | yeah well if they would kick that noob dolby-wowi out |
| 02:26.41 | Fin | oh! |
| 02:26.42 | Fin | shit! |
| 02:26.45 | Fin | I remember queues! |
| 02:26.51 | Seerah | lol Fin |
| 02:27.04 | Fin | wow, that sucks, bad luck |
| 02:27.04 | Seerah | neither had I until I transferred |
| 02:27.06 | Shirik | I actually have never seen a queue... ever. |
| 02:27.13 | Seerah | until today :P |
| 02:27.18 | Fin | we used to get queues of like 2-300 at one time |
| 02:27.28 | Fin | then they did the transferring thing on our server and since then it's been OK |
| 02:27.37 | Fin | we're actually listed as a Low population server now, which is nice |
| 02:28.33 | Fin | -shift |
| 02:28.48 | Seerah | yep. dinner. figures - I wait and can't play :) |
| 02:28.51 | Seerah | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:35.16 | bleeter | d3, eh? |
| 02:36.12 | bleeter | if it's true, can't say I'm not suprised. however, companies have been known before to reserve domain names of non existant 'future' products to protect TM of the original. |
| 02:39.04 | Shirik | ~weather kdab |
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| 02:57.10 | bleeter | ~weather ymhb |
| 02:57.33 | bleeter | chew on that, Shirik :P |
| 02:58.00 | Shirik | Actually I was just looking for the current altimeter |
| 02:58.04 | bleeter | haha |
| 02:58.06 | bleeter | fair nuff |
| 03:00.57 | Iriel | ~weather kccr |
| 03:02.36 | Shirik | So yeah, the post I put up on wowbash |
| 03:02.42 | Shirik | Has a 4.4 rating o.o |
| 03:03.37 | Cide | which one? |
| 03:04.36 | bleeter | haha sucker Iriel! :P |
| 03:04.54 | bleeter | ima go to the beach, and IRC from there, just to make you all jealous ;) |
| 03:06.34 | Shirik | Cide: Look at the front page |
| 03:06.42 | Shirik | for the one with "Kimina" and "Gooddeedz" in it |
| 03:07.03 | Shirik | I believe I posted it in this channel though |
| 03:07.14 | Cide | ah |
| 03:07.16 | Cide | that's awesome |
| 03:10.35 | Shirik | anyone here have unlimited long distance or otherwise willing to send a call to my cell phone so I can find it? |
| 03:12.06 | Shirik | nm found it |
| 03:12.12 | Shirik | must have been looking in the wrong pants earlier |
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| 03:26.05 | Thunder_Child | hah, i was in tears reading this http://www.wowbash.com/image-1100.html |
| 03:26.12 | Thunder_Child | i am such a sicko |
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| 03:39.57 | Thunder_Child | "/who cares" |
| 03:40.01 | Thunder_Child | "0 players found" |
| 03:41.26 | Fin | just so I could do this in guild chat: |
| 03:41.31 | Fin | <-- cares |
| 03:42.09 | Fin | it wasn't funny enough for even my low standadrs |
| 03:42.11 | Fin | -dr+rd |
| 03:42.55 | Thunder_Child | indeed |
| 03:42.58 | Fin | (which are actually rather refined at the same time as being low!) |
| 03:43.29 | Fin | that's what I tell myself, anyway |
| 03:43.39 | Fin | Yes, Fin, I say |
| 03:43.50 | Fin | Yes, your standards of humour *are* rather refined |
| 03:44.29 | Fin | it can be a burden |
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| 03:50.56 | Thunder_Child | mine isnt |
| 03:51.02 | Thunder_Child | mine is way low |
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| 04:18.29 | JoshBorke | gd, why am i out of button on my warrior :-( |
| 04:22.29 | Cairenn | btw guys, the rumour is that 2.3.2 will be going live this week, unless something comes up - or so the birdies are telling me |
| 04:23.30 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn, thats what we figured since they are taking the ptr down for three days starting monday |
| 04:23.54 | Cairenn | I know, just saying that that is what I'm hearing as well :) |
| 04:23.56 | Thunder_Child | but thanks for the up |
| 04:24.04 | Thunder_Child | daye... |
| 04:24.05 | Cairenn | I always tell you guys when I hear anything :) |
| 04:24.07 | Thunder_Child | date* |
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| 04:24.26 | Thunder_Child | *Sigh* my typing skills are as good as ever i see |
| 04:25.05 | Thunder_Child | i would say go poke your source for 2.4 info but i doubt they would know yet |
| 04:30.32 | Thunder_Child | ~weather KCQT |
| 04:37.25 | batrick | http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m269/Eidolas/Keyloggercat.jpg |
| 04:47.58 | art3mis | hey |
| 04:48.50 | art3mis | if i have a switch ${blah} { case1: case2: case3} can i embed a while loop in each case? |
| 04:49.03 | Iriel | yes |
| 04:49.22 | Iriel | (assuming you're in C/C++/Java) |
| 04:49.38 | art3mis | and pretend it's lua? |
| 04:49.45 | Iriel | lua doesn' have switch |
| 04:49.49 | art3mis | oh |
| 04:49.54 | art3mis | well bah |
| 04:50.02 | Iriel | just use if/elseif/end |
| 04:50.04 | Iriel | 8-) |
| 04:50.08 | art3mis | can nested if's contatin while loops? |
| 04:50.14 | art3mis | contain |
| 04:50.22 | Iriel | sure, a block can contain any valid sequence of statements |
| 04:50.25 | art3mis | in normal language like say perl/lua/python |
| 04:50.38 | art3mis | hrm wonder why this is locking then |
| 04:50.49 | Iriel | paste the code? |
| 04:51.48 | art3mis | it's not really suited for this channel |
| 04:52.03 | art3mis | hence the nebulous questions |
| 04:52.21 | art3mis | im just double checking more than anything that im not going insane with my logic |
| 05:00.56 | Thunder_Child | you know, i rather miss the elite quests |
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| 05:10.33 | MentalPower | FYI http://pastey.net is down, we're working on it |
| 05:13.51 | Thunder_Child | ~fail MentalPower |
| 05:13.51 | purl | MentalPower: Fail. |
| 05:30.09 | Shirik|zZz | MentalPower: Works fine for me? |
| 05:30.11 | Shirik|zZz | But anyway, night |
| 05:30.18 | Thunder_Child | night Shirik|zZz |
| 05:30.41 | MentalPower | its working now |
| 05:30.48 | MentalPower | we just got it working again |
| 05:30.50 | Thunder_Child | ~win MentalPower |
| 05:30.50 | purl | Congratulations, MentalPower! You have won the time-life collection of vintage AOL cd's, a set of 120! |
| 05:36.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | you can finally build that car you've always wanted, mp |
| 05:39.24 | JoshBorke | i only have 460 def in my NR gear :_( |
| 05:41.14 | art3mis | pastey.ca ;P |
| 05:41.55 | art3mis | so |
| 05:42.09 | art3mis | i still have no ideas, what would you do with the domain gothi.ca |
| 05:43.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | run a gothporn site |
| 05:43.33 | Thunder_Child | atm....for webcomix |
| 05:44.31 | Thunder_Child | heh, i wonder if ameri.ca is taken |
| 05:45.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | oy |
| 05:45.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | has anyone seen the movie "holy mountain?" |
| 05:46.17 | art3mis | http://www.xkcd.com/ <--- cog |
| 05:46.24 | Thunder_Child | i am sure someone had Mr_Rabies2 |
| 05:46.33 | Thunder_Child | s/had/has/ |
| 05:46.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | my brain is still trying to process it |
| 05:46.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | and it hurts |
| 05:47.01 | art3mis | i think im gonna make a myspace+dating+porn thingy |
| 05:47.41 | art3mis | something dumb like 5$ a month $15/mn for the adult access or something |
| 05:47.45 | Thunder_Child | ~lart3mis |
| 05:47.46 | purl | ACTION smacks art3mis upside the head just cuz |
| 05:48.12 | art3mis | although a webcomic mocking goths would be pretty funny ;) |
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| 05:51.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=-GxqxnH0QvI&feature=related |
| 05:51.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | this movie was done so well but my brain's been trying to process it for about 2 days still |
| 05:54.14 | Thunder_Child | i know art3mis, start your own torrent tracker |
| 05:55.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's a good way to stay on the good side of the recording and movie industry |
| 05:55.58 | Thunder_Child | they have a good side? |
| 05:59.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | that was sarcasm :p |
| 05:59.57 | Thunder_Child | you think? |
| 06:00.33 | Thunder_Child | (more sarcsim if you didnt catch that) |
| 06:00.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's a way to leave the "stealing your money from you" side of the recording industry to enter the "want to destroy everything you have ever owned and make it impossible for you to cope with the debt" side |
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| 06:10.34 | reqol | with XML do changes save if I just reload or do I have to restart wow |
| 06:11.32 | Guillotine | (I know this isn't WoW based, but...) iirc, in VB, constants actually take up extra memory, and aren't gotten rid of, unlike in C. Anybody know for sure if this is true? |
| 06:11.59 | _Chloe | reqol you just /reloadui |
| 06:12.25 | reqol | okay, thanks |
| 06:12.27 | _Chloe | only time you should have to restart wow is toc and image changes |
| 06:12.35 | _Chloe | np |
| 06:12.57 | Guillotine | image changes? I thought it was just toc or adding/renaming ANY file |
| 06:13.15 | Guillotine | then again, I rarely use images, much less change them |
| 06:13.40 | _Chloe | ie: you add an image file to your folder and call it without it being present the first time WoW was loaded |
| 06:15.16 | _Chloe | Also about your q, i'm pretty sure you are right, but it's been ages since I've done anything in VBN |
| 06:15.33 | _Chloe | *VB |
| 06:17.40 | reqol | if my frame has the attribute hidden, it will be hidden everytime it's loaded, correct? this is, of course, unless I have an OnLoad call to show it |
| 06:19.24 | _Chloe | yep, unless you show it ie: myFrame:Show(); |
| 06:20.22 | reqol | one more question: if absdimensions are set this is the absolutely (heh) biggest it will get under any circumstances? |
| 06:20.45 | reqol | s/absolutely/absolute/ |
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| 06:48.23 | Iriel | reqol: abs just means 'absolute', i.e. you give size values in units, rather than 'relative' |
| 06:51.27 | Thunder_Child | grrr...sungrass has to be the most dificult herb to see |
| 06:52.15 | Iriel | Even with the magic sparklies? |
| 06:52.16 | _Chloe | Nah, blindweed in SoS before they changed the model... |
| 06:52.32 | Thunder_Child | Iriel, sparkels dont always show up |
| 06:53.07 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: really? how annoying |
| 06:53.12 | Thunder_Child | indeed |
| 06:53.27 | Thunder_Child | though i remeber a post on that from a dev |
| 06:53.41 | Thunder_Child | something about how the sparkles are aplied to them |
| 06:53.51 | Thunder_Child | and that they start below the ground |
| 07:00.39 | clad|sleep | its 7am |
| 07:00.47 | clad|sleep | now the construction workers show up, and I can't possibly go back to sleep =( |
| 07:00.55 | Iriel | suckage 8-( |
| 07:01.03 | Iriel | Time for a caffeine fuelled day of unrest |
| 07:01.03 | cladhaire | been up for 5 hours |
| 07:01.03 | Thunder_Child | 8 am is the min here |
| 07:01.04 | cladhaire | sadly |
| 07:01.21 | cladhaire | I'm scared of the course I'm taking this term |
| 07:01.46 | cladhaire | http://web.comlab.ox.ac.uk/oucl/courses/topics07-08/pa/ |
| 07:01.47 | Thunder_Child | that much fun eh |
| 07:01.47 | cladhaire | eek |
| 07:02.03 | Iriel | Ooh, I love that kind of stuff |
| 07:02.30 | cladhaire | I've had no experience with it so far |
| 07:02.45 | cladhaire | the required prior knowledge I'm not so sure I fit |
| 07:02.59 | cladhaire | its three lectures a week, plus a class, plus a practical |
| 07:03.07 | Iriel | this sounds like the formal background which I /dont/ have |
| 07:03.23 | Iriel | If you get cool interesting coursework notes, send them my way! |
| 07:03.31 | cladhaire | I certainly will |
| 07:03.36 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 07:03.41 | cladhaire | libraries don't open until 9 |
| 07:03.43 | cladhaire | like all of Oxford |
| 07:03.49 | cladhaire | and I have to be on the river at 10 |
| 07:03.54 | Iriel | I was actually thinking about what it'd take to do a potential taint static analysis on wow code |
| 07:04.03 | cladhaire | what the hell am I going to do for the next 2 hours. |
| 07:04.12 | Iriel | A long breakfast? |
| 07:04.14 | Thunder_Child | code..play wow.. |
| 07:04.21 | Iriel | Relaxing bath? |
| 07:04.29 | Thunder_Child | hit yourself over the head and pass out |
| 07:04.47 | cladhaire | no bath tub |
| 07:04.50 | cladhaire | tho that would be amazing. |
| 07:04.55 | cladhaire | I have chapters to edit, so I think I'll work on that |
| 07:05.12 | cladhaire | only 14 chapters to edit |
| 07:05.13 | cladhaire | O.o |
| 07:10.12 | Olison | fuq, no more necb :( |
| 07:11.34 | reqol | Iriel: then how can I make sure my frame will grow no more than my specified size? |
| 07:13.23 | Iriel | <ResizeBounds><MaxResize><Dimension><AbsDimension x="..." y="..."/></Dimension></MaxResize></ResizeBounds> |
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| 07:14.51 | Thunder_Child | Iriel "Casio's new EXILIM Pro EX-F1 is a new shooter than can take up to 60 full-resolution still photos in one second" |
| 07:15.31 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/341234/casios-exilim-pro-ex+f1-takes-still-pics-at-60-fps-video-at-1200-fps |
| 07:17.00 | Iriel | Basically a camcorder with a very large sensor |
| 07:17.11 | Iriel | and a nice high speed top end, that's pretty spiffy |
| 07:17.21 | Thunder_Child | but if it can take good stills it's quite nice |
| 07:17.29 | Thunder_Child | since thats usually the problem |
| 07:19.26 | Iriel | Indeed |
| 07:19.34 | Iriel | Not to mention sharpness of focus |
| 07:20.05 | Thunder_Child | true, though a little leway is given for the highspeed capture..and not having to spend 6K to get it |
| 07:22.04 | Thunder_Child | 3 ft. wide curved monintor http://gizmodo.com/341413/alienware-curved-monitor-looks-like-its-from-another-planet |
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| 07:34.08 | Iriel | Night all |
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| 08:05.58 | Corrodias | hmm, looks like making a twink takes quite a bit of work |
| 08:07.05 | Corrodias | whatever. i don't like pvp, so i guess i won't. ugh, time to sleep >_< 'ni |
| 08:16.27 | reqol | I should use self: instead of this: when using script inside of a frame, right? because this is inherently evil and will consume small children otherwise. |
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| 08:17.29 | cladhaire | reqol: yes |
| 08:17.36 | cladhaire | which script are you using? |
| 08:18.11 | reqol | self:RegisterForDrag("LeftButton") |
| 08:19.50 | cladhaire | so we're talking OnDragStart and OnDragStop? |
| 08:19.52 | reqol | yes |
| 08:19.59 | cladhaire | then yeah, those functions take two arguments |
| 08:20.17 | cladhaire | first is the frame, second is the button |
| 08:20.21 | cladhaire | you can name them whatever you'd like |
| 08:20.45 | cladhaire | there's very few places you need to use this :P |
| 08:21.02 | reqol | so the difference is that self is loca, and this is global. why would this matter? could you give me an example? I'm curious :D |
| 08:21.21 | cladhaire | well "this" can be altered |
| 08:21.27 | cladhaire | this is also deprecated, and may be removed at some point |
| 08:21.36 | cladhaire | plus access to the local version is faster, and cannot be changed |
| 08:21.41 | cladhaire | its your own private copy |
| 08:24.54 | Duman | hmm |
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| 08:25.51 | reqol | cladhaire: that explains it precisely:D thanks. |
| 08:26.21 | Thunder_Child | thats what cladhaire is for when he has had few hours of sleep and cant get any more |
| 08:27.04 | cladhaire | aye |
| 08:28.38 | reqol | is it necessary to set the enableMouse attribute of a button? |
| 08:29.05 | cladhaire | no |
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| 08:38.04 | wereHamster | what's the difference between self:RegisterForDrag() and calling StartMoving on OnClick? |
| 08:38.27 | Cide | Drag has a 'snap threshold' |
| 08:38.42 | wereHamster | snap to other frames? |
| 08:38.53 | Cide | no, as in you have to drag it a bit before it goes off |
| 08:39.08 | Cide | (see action buttons) |
| 08:39.26 | wereHamster | ah, that's what I always hated.. that on movable frames :) |
| 08:39.47 | Cide | aye, it's pretty annoying on movable frames, but makes sense for other stuff |
| 08:39.59 | Thunder_Child | but to many people use it for moveable frames |
| 08:40.12 | Cide | /shrug |
| 08:40.16 | Cide | most people do lots of stupid shit. |
| 08:40.21 | Thunder_Child | true |
| 08:41.12 | reqol | I take it the XML example on the wowwiki site was incorrect then? it has not only registerfordrag but startmoving on OnClick as well |
| 08:41.14 | reqol | I only need one, no? |
| 08:41.29 | Cide | yes |
| 08:41.33 | Cide | you only need one |
| 08:43.49 | cladhaire | the big problem with doing it on OnMouseDown is that'll trigger a click |
| 08:43.54 | cladhaire | so if your frames do somethign on click |
| 08:43.56 | cladhaire | you want to avoid that :P |
| 08:48.15 | Cide | there's no API to return soulboundness right? |
| 08:48.22 | Cide | of a given item or inventory slot |
| 08:49.31 | cladhaire | good question |
| 08:49.41 | cladhaire | not that I recall seeing while documenting |
| 08:50.24 | Cide | same.. bleh |
| 08:50.43 | Cide | tooltip scanning sucks because crafted items contain "Soulbound" in the tooltip |
| 08:51.20 | Thunder_Child | same diff right? |
| 08:51.24 | cladhaire | yeah but not in the second line |
| 08:51.33 | cladhaire | right? |
| 08:51.36 | Cide | is it always on the second line though? |
| 08:51.48 | Cide | it might be but I don't know for sure |
| 08:51.57 | cladhaire | its worth looking into |
| 08:55.25 | reqol | adjusting a frames insets seems to be somewhat of a trial and error procedure, huh? |
| 08:55.46 | reqol | there should be a pixel ruler |
| 08:56.19 | Cide | make one :) |
| 08:56.27 | Cide | you get the feeling for it after a while, but yeah |
| 09:02.44 | reqol | so I have a button that inherits OptionsButtonTemplate. I changed it's dimensions to make it smaller, but the text did not follow suit. there is a button in this addon's XML I'm looking at for a bit of guidance (magetaxi) and he inherits the same button, and does not change (from what I can see) the buttons dimensions, yet it's smaller all around (including the button's text). |
| 09:02.48 | reqol | how can I fix this? |
| 09:10.01 | clad|away | he probably changed the scale of the button |
| 09:10.04 | clad|away | rather than the dimensions |
| 09:10.06 | clad|away | that would scale the fonrt |
| 09:11.20 | reqol | that would be in the <Button> tags, right? I guess he could do it through lua |
| 09:12.02 | reqol | i'll look a bit more intently |
| 09:12.07 | clad|away | you can't do it in XML, actually |
| 09:12.18 | clad|away | i could be wrong, but Im' not sur ethere's a tag for scale |
| 09:12.25 | clad|away | it would be a :SetScale() |
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| 09:14.46 | reqol | there is no SetScale in either the lua or the XML file, and there is nothing in between the button tags to suggest anything besides setting the insets |
| 09:15.06 | clad|away | can you view the button in game? |
| 09:15.10 | reqol | yes |
| 09:15.11 | clad|away | the original you're trying to emulate |
| 09:15.16 | clad|away | do you have a /dump command |
| 09:15.20 | clad|away | either from ace2 or devtools? |
| 09:15.22 | reqol | yes |
| 09:15.24 | reqol | i have both of those i believe |
| 09:15.27 | clad|away | if so, /dump GetMouseFocus():GetScale() |
| 09:15.31 | clad|away | if so, /dump GetMouseFocus():GetWidth() |
| 09:15.34 | clad|away | if so, /dump GetMouseFocus():GetHeight() |
| 09:15.38 | clad|away | while mousing over it |
| 09:15.45 | clad|away | to get the scale/width/height |
| 09:15.49 | clad|away | that's a start :P |
| 09:16.04 | Cide | grr |
| 09:16.05 | clad|away | (alternatively, you could pastey HIS relevant code here, so we can tell you how he changed the font size :P) |
| 09:16.50 | reqol | everything looks normal. 1 scale, 89.9~ width, 21 height. i'll pastey his code... |
| 09:17.13 | reqol | well first let me double check to make sure I haven't overlooked something obvious |
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| 09:20.00 | reqol | http://wowi.pastey.net/80210 |
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| 09:25.53 | reqol | it's not THAT much smaller, but it is still noticeable. especially the text. |
| 09:27.10 | clad|away | which button is this? |
| 09:28.04 | reqol | $parent_Spam would be an example |
| 09:28.07 | reqol | there are several buttons |
| 09:28.32 | clad|away | hrm, unfortuantely i'm heading out the door |
| 09:28.34 | clad|away | could you post screenshots |
| 09:28.39 | clad|away | i think that would help us see the difference :P |
| 09:29.39 | reqol | definitely |
| 09:29.40 | reqol | 2 seconds |
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| 09:34.06 | reqol | http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/6150/buttonexamplehb2.jpg the top is the two compared side by side (sorta) and the bottom is the smaller one overlapping the larger one so you can see how much larger it is |
| 09:34.07 | Cide | ~seen Tuller |
| 09:34.10 | purl | tuller <n=chatzill@c-76-27-166-119.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 15h 4m 29s ago, saying: 'the big thing is just figuring out what I want to do'. |
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| 09:48.50 | Cide | sweet. my soulbound filter works |
| 09:49.55 | reqol | how'd you set it up? |
| 09:50.25 | Cide | I modified combuctor and scan the tooltips |
| 09:50.55 | Cide | oh, I guess I should've asked for permission before doing that |
| 09:52.18 | reqol | if I have an OnLoad script in a virtual frame, will it do that for all inherited frames as well? or do I need to do it individually |
| 09:52.48 | Cide | it'll be inherited unless you override it with something else in the child |
| 09:52.54 | Cide | or in the instances of it, rather |
| 09:53.30 | reqol | so if I have ANY OnLoad script in the instance of it, all will be overridden? |
| 09:53.31 | Thunder_Child | i wish combuctor would get updated already |
| 09:53.58 | Cide | Thunder_Child: what problems are there? :P |
| 09:54.02 | Cide | reqol: yes |
| 09:54.19 | Thunder_Child | Cide, no options really |
| 09:54.34 | Cide | options aren't always necessary |
| 09:54.43 | Cide | what options would you want? :P |
| 09:54.52 | Thunder_Child | to change the filters |
| 09:55.13 | Cide | hm? |
| 09:55.14 | Thunder_Child | and to have the bank/trade on the same tab |
| 09:55.22 | Thunder_Child | the filters for each tab |
| 09:55.25 | Cide | what's the trade tab? I haven't had it |
| 09:55.33 | Thunder_Child | for profession bags |
| 09:55.39 | Cide | ah |
| 09:55.54 | Thunder_Child | it puts it in it's own tab so you cant see all of the bank at once, very iritating |
| 09:56.01 | Cide | I added a bank tab to the inventory frame a bit ago |
| 09:56.10 | Cide | opening it separately was annoying |
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| 09:57.28 | socaltrojans | guys, i am a bit of a newb, but was trying to make a macro script like: /run num = GetNumPartyMembers(), if num > 2 then CastSpellByName("Ritual of Souls"), else CastSpellByName("Create Healthstone") end |
| 09:57.40 | socaltrojans | but it doesn't work |
| 09:58.18 | reqol | castspellbyname is protected |
| 09:58.38 | socaltrojans | kk, so how do i cast a spell |
| 09:58.43 | Thunder_Child | i dont think he is doing that in combat.. |
| 09:58.53 | socaltrojans | yeah, non-comabt |
| 09:59.09 | Cide | Thunder_Child: fixing that was a one-line change, btw |
| 09:59.22 | reqol | Thunder_Child: doesn't let me use castspellbyname in a macro whether i'm in combat or not. i'm probably wrong, though >_> |
| 09:59.36 | socaltrojans | is so that is i am in a party of 3+ members, i cast ritual of souls, otherwise i just make 1 HS |
| 09:59.38 | Thunder_Child | Cide, be that as it may, we shouldnt have to hack it |
| 09:59.47 | Thunder_Child | reqol, i dunno then |
| 10:00.05 | reqol | yeah, I just tested it. macro script blocked ;_; |
| 10:00.25 | Cide | right |
| 10:01.44 | reqol | here is what I Would do socaltrojans: if you mouse click it do : /cast [button:1] Ritual of Souls; [button:2] Create Healthstone |
| 10:02.04 | reqol | if you hotkey do something like /cast [mod:alt] Ritual of Souls; [mod:shift] Create Healthstone |
| 10:02.11 | reqol | someone correct me if I got something wrong in there, please. |
| 10:02.18 | socaltrojans | yeah, i had that already, i was just trying to find a eaiser way |
| 10:02.55 | reqol | I'm fairly certain there is absolutely no way to cast based on conditionals now, combat or not, secure frames or not. then again, I've been proven wrong before many many times, so someone please step up to the plate, if you will :D |
| 10:03.37 | socaltrojans | i got it as: /use [button:1] Master Healthstone /cast [button:2] Create Healthstone; [button:3] Ritual of Souls |
| 10:04.11 | socaltrojans | kk, well, thanks for trying |
| 10:04.24 | socaltrojans | and helping a newb, lol |
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| 10:21.29 | reqol | what should UIParent:GetScale() return? |
| 10:28.03 | Cide | your UI scale |
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| 10:54.52 | Industrial | hmm |
| 10:55.10 | Industrial | I read books on the subway (ride it for an hour twice every day) |
| 10:55.26 | Industrial | now working on The Algebraist by Ian M. Banks, in english |
| 10:55.31 | Industrial | really hard o_O but fun |
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| 11:21.06 | sioraiocht | Industrial: why hard? |
| 11:21.18 | sioraiocht | hard as in slow? |
| 11:21.24 | sioraiocht | or hard as in the english is hard? |
| 11:21.27 | Industrial | yes |
| 11:21.33 | sioraiocht | err, which one? heh |
| 11:21.38 | Industrial | uh, yes the english is hard |
| 11:21.38 | Industrial | hehe |
| 11:21.41 | sioraiocht | oh, hehe |
| 11:21.58 | sioraiocht | yeah, i read a few books in spanish, i had to sit with a dictionary most of the time |
| 11:22.12 | Industrial | hehe |
| 11:27.48 | sioraiocht | you can't torrent through a proxy, right? |
| 11:28.20 | Industrial | maybe if the proxy has all those ports open |
| 11:28.27 | sioraiocht | boo |
| 11:28.34 | Industrial | cause you usually cant predict which port someone else is going to use |
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| 11:28.57 | Industrial | I put mine on random anyway |
| 11:30.24 | sioraiocht | right |
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| 11:54.34 | Shirik | Random question: I need a very-easy-to-drink high-protein "food." So far I'm going to buy some boost milkshakes, any other suggestions? |
| 11:54.54 | Shirik | (or eat) |
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| 12:09.17 | Industrial | Shirik: pasta? |
| 12:09.26 | Shirik | not easily eaten |
| 12:09.31 | Kalroth | I got a suggestion too, but it's only for females. :P |
| 12:09.38 | Shirik | ok no |
| 12:09.58 | Industrial | Kalroth: go |
| 12:10.12 | Kalroth | Nuh uh, people will just hate me! |
| 12:10.19 | Industrial | say it :D |
| 12:11.20 | Shirik | I already know it |
| 12:11.22 | Shirik | and no |
| 12:11.36 | Kalroth | See, Shirik hates me now. |
| 12:11.57 | Kalroth | Industrial: it's called semenogelin. |
| 12:12.16 | Industrial | .. |
| 12:12.29 | Kalroth | According to http://www.jbc.org/cgi/content/abstract/264/3/1894 |
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| 12:30.42 | clad|away | SO COLD |
| 12:30.56 | clad|away | Industrial: pasta has no protein |
| 12:30.59 | clad|away | Shirik: tuna fish |
| 12:31.01 | clad|away | is the super food |
| 12:31.04 | clad|away | that and peanut butter |
| 12:31.08 | clad|away | but you said drink |
| 12:31.25 | clad|away | does it need to be a food? :P |
| 12:31.41 | Industrial | I eat food to stay alive |
| 12:31.45 | Industrial | and cuz it tastes good |
| 12:32.39 | cladhaire | yet you're still incredibly fit |
| 12:32.55 | krka | egg white has protein |
| 12:33.21 | art3mis | mmm tunafish+peanut butter smoothies |
| 12:33.31 | Shirik | no cladhaire it can be a drink I guess |
| 12:33.50 | Shirik | peanut butter would be good but like I said I'm having trouble eating right now >< |
| 12:34.04 | Shirik | oh I guess I didn't say that |
| 12:34.28 | Shirik | anyway, bread or grains in general will likely be bad |
| 12:34.44 | cladhaire | ewll |
| 12:34.45 | cladhaire | pb shakes |
| 12:34.46 | cladhaire | honestly |
| 12:34.53 | cladhaire | egg whites are also great, as krka said |
| 12:34.58 | cladhaire | and absurdly low in calories |
| 12:35.35 | art3mis | you could get one of those GM mega(something) shake things |
| 12:35.37 | cladhaire | honestly, there are senior/infant supplements that you can do quite well on |
| 12:35.51 | art3mis | err GN |
| 12:35.53 | Shirik | lol |
| 12:36.17 | cladhaire | not kidding, a lot of mexicans around the border, and athletes use Pedialyte |
| 12:36.24 | art3mis | cladhaire: but those are made of people! |
| 12:36.30 | Kalroth | http://www.weightlossforall.com/protein_content_from_good_source.htm |
| 12:36.34 | Shirik | I can just see me walking into Publix now. I pick up infant supplements and people think "crazy kids having sex way too early these days" or senior supplements and people think "kids need to get out of their parents' houses" |
| 12:37.06 | cladhaire | i thought you were worried about being healthly, not what D-BAG #14 at the chemist thinks. |
| 12:37.07 | art3mis | instead of "my god that kid should eat more he's like almost see thru" |
| 12:37.22 | art3mis | hehe chemist |
| 12:37.23 | Shirik | heh |
| 12:37.31 | Shirik | truth |
| 12:37.33 | art3mis | the uk is fitting you nciely clad ;) |
| 12:37.39 | cladhaire | art3mis: lol, sorry |
| 12:37.46 | Shirik | what's "chemist" though? |
| 12:37.58 | Kalroth | educated drug dealer |
| 12:37.59 | cladhaire | Pharmacist |
| 12:38.00 | Shirik | you have scientists at your supermarkets o.o |
| 12:38.01 | Shirik | oh |
| 12:38.27 | cladhaire | tho to be honest., my friend (when she visited) asked for the apothecary.. and when I re-told that story, I said alchemist |
| 12:38.30 | cladhaire | so its a running joke |
| 12:38.52 | art3mis | heh |
| 12:39.02 | Shirik | apothecary always brings a negative connotation to my mind |
| 12:39.16 | art3mis | am i wierd to likeing the taste of the gel of vitamins? |
| 12:39.29 | art3mis | like my B complex vitamin has the best atasting gel coating |
| 12:39.44 | Shirik | I dunno but these tylenol cold tablets have a great flavor |
| 12:39.50 | Shirik | unfortunately you have to swallow them so :P |
| 12:40.11 | art3mis | thats because acidominiphen tastes nasty ;P |
| 12:40.34 | art3mis | although if you like that sorta flavour youcan always just drink thereflu ; |
| 12:40.58 | Shirik | I had something once when I had flu like 6 years ago |
| 12:41.01 | Shirik | supposed to be lemon |
| 12:41.03 | cladhaire | they don't call it Acidominiphen here |
| 12:41.07 | cladhaire | its Paracetamol |
| 12:41.08 | cladhaire | O.o |
| 12:41.08 | Shirik | dear god that stuff was horrible |
| 12:41.34 | Shirik | cladhaire: For the record, art3mis is a nublet and it's Acetaminophen |
| 12:41.42 | cladhaire | I know |
| 12:41.45 | cladhaire | i tried trwo spellings |
| 12:41.50 | cladhaire | neither showed up as not red |
| 12:41.52 | cladhaire | so i went with it :P |
| 12:41.54 | Shirik | lol |
| 12:42.13 | Shirik | just the "acid" stands out at me >< |
| 12:42.51 | cladhaire | zesty orange Airborne |
| 12:42.53 | cladhaire | tastes okay! |
| 12:45.06 | wereHamster | >>> 2^32 |
| 12:45.48 | cladhaire | lua> 2^32 |
| 12:45.48 | lua_bot | cladhaire: 4294967296 |
| 12:46.37 | Shirik | cmon this should be a number you have memorized! |
| 12:46.43 | wereHamster | lua> 2^32/120 |
| 12:46.43 | lua_bot | wereHamster: 35791394.133333 |
| 12:47.12 | art3mis | lua> evil^0.5 |
| 12:47.12 | lua_bot | art3mis: [string "return evil^0.5"]:1: attempt to perform arithmetic on global 'evil' (a nil value) |
| 12:47.20 | art3mis | the square root of all evil |
| 12:47.49 | wereHamster | is there a __tonumber() metatable function? |
| 12:48.08 | cladhaire | yes |
| 12:48.09 | cladhaire | err |
| 12:48.11 | cladhaire | i dunno actually |
| 12:48.24 | Shirik | easy way to find out |
| 12:48.50 | Shirik | lua> t = setmetatable({}, {__tonumber = function() return 4; end}); print(tonumber(t)) |
| 12:48.50 | lua_bot | Shirik: nil |
| 12:48.55 | Shirik | it would appear not |
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| 12:52.37 | Shirik | Hey, did Blizzard ever "expressly authorize" us to modify the WoW UI? |
| 12:53.23 | art3mis | nope |
| 12:53.32 | [dRaCo] | there were times when the official position was "everything that can be done with lua is allowed" |
| 12:53.34 | art3mis | they didnt exprsesly not authorize us though |
| 12:53.45 | art3mis | expressly |
| 12:53.49 | [dRaCo] | though that's more implicit, yeah |
| 12:54.54 | art3mis | i think it falls into the category of "if you can do it in lua and it still requires someone to be at the keys, it's not a bad thing but dont get too pissed if we break it for you" |
| 12:55.43 | Shirik | from the tos: an "unauthorized third party program" as used herein shall be defined as any third party software, including without limitation any "addon" or "mod," that in blizzard's sole determination ... (ii) allows users to modify or hack the world of w |
| 12:56.02 | Shirik | orld of warcraft interface environment and/or experience in any way not expressly authorized by blizzard |
| 12:56.13 | Shirik | Okay that was a pain in the neck since I didn't want to copy/paste all that stuff in caps |
| 12:58.55 | Shirik | oh how nice |
| 12:59.08 | Shirik | Blizzard does say in the ToS, though "if we sue you and lose, we'll pay for your court costs" (paraphrased of course) |
| 12:59.25 | Shirik | (and legal fees and "other expenses") |
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| 13:12.40 | bleeter | lol |
| 13:12.47 | bleeter | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:14.17 | bleeter | and, while I'm here, if there's any Blizz employees reading, there's a toon spreading keylogging URL's, I believe |
| 13:14.45 | bleeter | yes, they've been reported, but maybe a Blizz person, if reading here, might be able to act earlier than the regular official channels ;) |
| 13:15.05 | Shirik | damn http://billingsgazette.net/articles/2008/01/05/news/state/52-wind.txt |
| 13:15.16 | Shirik | I still don't understand how you can get such strong winds |
| 13:15.19 | bleeter | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/search.html?forumId=10001&characterId=37732679875&sid=1 << DO NOT FOLLOW ANY LINKS POSTED BY THIS GUY |
| 13:15.20 | Shirik | without a hurricane |
| 13:15.47 | Shirik | bleeter... that just makes me want to click it more |
| 13:16.30 | |Pixel| | aack, US forums |
| 13:16.35 | bleeter | Shirik: that's just the list of his posts... and if you're sensible like me and not looking at it as the same user as your game, and playing your game in Wine... :P |
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| 13:17.15 | Shirik | I'm convinced I know what I'm doing |
| 13:17.21 | Shirik | and if I don't, then I deserve the punishment |
| 13:17.27 | bleeter | ~lart Shirik |
| 13:17.27 | purl | slaps Shirik upside the head with a wet fish |
| 13:17.33 | Shirik | however I don't see anything particularly "bad" I just think it's free advertisement |
| 13:17.35 | bleeter | that's not punishment!! that's fun! |
| 13:18.39 | bleeter | if it's not a keylogger, looks to me like a hacked account then ;) :P |
| 13:18.49 | Shirik | and it has a chinese stuffs on it too |
| 13:18.52 | Shirik | wtf is this site |
| 13:19.15 | Shirik | seems like a half-developed WoW news site |
| 13:19.35 | Shirik | in chinese (simp and trad) and english |
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| 13:20.57 | Shirik | lol and another one of his links goes to a similar, but different site |
| 13:21.03 | Shirik | wtf is this? |
| 13:21.39 | Shirik | awwww lookie! http://www.worldofraids.com/2008/january/claydoll1.jpg |
| 13:21.45 | Shirik | It brought me to that |
| 13:22.08 | Lopeppeppy | I want to be a Spirit Healer in my next life. |
| 13:22.30 | Shirik | aren't spirit healers inherently dead? |
| 13:23.21 | Shirik | This girl is pretty good at making these figures http://www.worldofraids.com/2008/january/claydoll4.jpg |
| 13:23.25 | Lopeppeppy | Just because you can't see them when you're alive doesn't necessarily mean that they are dead... |
| 13:24.02 | Shirik | everything else that's alive I can see when it's alive... |
| 13:24.23 | Shirik | well except those damn pulls in Karazhan |
| 13:24.33 | Shirik | though actually I think those are spirits too now that I think about it |
| 13:24.59 | Lopeppeppy | Can't see InvisiTigers! |
| 13:25.12 | Lopeppeppy | But yeah, usually invisible = undeadling |
| 13:25.31 | Shirik | stealth != can't see |
| 13:25.39 | Shirik | just really good at blending in |
| 13:30.27 | Shirik | where did Lopeppeppy |
| 13:30.28 | Shirik | go |
| 13:30.38 | Shirik | I hope she brings me back some cookies |
| 13:30.54 | Lopeppeppy | I wasn't in the mood to do my own baking, but I have cravings. |
| 13:34.41 | Shirik | oh god |
| 13:34.50 | Shirik | there's complaints that priests should get a "trainable divine spirit" |
| 13:35.09 | Shirik | because innervate, imp sap, and iceblock are trainable >< |
| 13:35.15 | Shirik | Like I'm a priest and all but seriously |
| 13:36.12 | art3mis | neat |
| 13:36.17 | art3mis | desktop.gothi.ca |
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| 13:37.37 | Lopeppeppy | Surprise, both threads dealing with AV queue addons have been deleted. |
| 13:47.00 | Shirik | wait, BE's get bigger mana pools? |
| 13:47.16 | Shirik | otherwise someone in this thread is being very stupid |
| 13:49.27 | Kalroth | Is it a WoW thread? |
| 13:49.32 | Shirik | yes |
| 13:49.43 | Kalroth | Then odds are against you. |
| 13:49.48 | Lopeppeppy | Then both possibilities are equally likely. |
| 13:51.05 | End | BE's probably have a higher base intellect |
| 13:51.22 | End | I'm almost certain they have a higher base intellect |
| 13:51.32 | Shirik | I mean, I always knew I had a lot more mana than most |
| 13:51.42 | Kalroth | You cheater! |
| 13:51.42 | Shirik | someone was complaining just yesterday like "wow you really have 11k mana?!" |
| 13:51.56 | Shirik | (in pvp gear) |
| 13:52.08 | Shirik | but I thought that was just itemization |
| 13:52.20 | Kalroth | Uh, our paladins got almost 15k in pve gear, why is 11k much? Even in PvP gear. |
| 13:52.52 | End | gear is gonna mean a lot more than racial stat differences |
| 13:53.21 | Shirik | because pallies stack intellect? |
| 13:53.26 | Shirik | Priests don't tend to do that? |
| 13:53.38 | Shirik | pallies' primary stat is intellect for the crit |
| 13:53.42 | Kalroth | Priests wants uhhh, spirit and uhmm, stamina :p |
| 13:54.50 | art3mis | preists are *pew pew* or *gheal gheal* we dont need stats ;P |
| 13:55.06 | Lopeppeppy | Paladins don't need stats, we have maces. |
| 13:55.09 | art3mis | cuz either of those things will a) get you killed in pvp or b) get you killed in pve |
| 13:55.26 | art3mis | so ocne you go through your mana pool you should be dead or very near |
| 13:55.34 | art3mis | and thus will end up at full again shortly |
| 13:55.48 | Lopeppeppy | Reduce, recycle, reuse. |
| 13:56.25 | art3mis | actually that happened to me his weekend in av, somehow i blew through my 9k mana and i was stil alive wanding people |
| 13:56.30 | art3mis | this |
| 13:56.37 | art3mis | i was confused as to how that happeed |
| 13:56.40 | art3mis | happened |
| 13:57.47 | art3mis | i wish i was artisticly inclined |
| 13:58.01 | art3mis | although autisticly inclined would be neat too |
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| 14:00.15 | Lopeppeppy | With your spelling this morning, are you sure you're not? :P |
| 14:01.12 | art3mis | not 100% no |
| 14:01.17 | End | I don't think creative spelling is the same hing :P |
| 14:01.25 | End | gah |
| 14:01.27 | End | thing* |
| 14:01.38 | Lopeppeppy | I think it's contagious, no? |
| 14:01.45 | End | I hope it isn't! |
| 14:01.55 | art3mis | ever have one of those days where you wish you were mentally retarded so that like would be "simpler" ? |
| 14:02.08 | art3mis | oh speaking of |
| 14:02.14 | End | not usually, but I can't say it hasn't happened |
| 14:02.21 | art3mis | Brawndo is now for sale |
| 14:02.29 | Lopeppeppy | Is this a good thing? |
| 14:02.34 | art3mis | from Idiocracy |
| 14:02.50 | art3mis | and if you havent seen that movie so what it ;P |
| 14:02.57 | art3mis | so==go |
| 14:03.10 | art3mis | i think i need a new keyboard |
| 14:03.14 | art3mis | this one hates me |
| 14:03.33 | Lopeppeppy | Or smaller hands? |
| 14:03.41 | art3mis | that should read "and if you havent seen that go watch it" |
| 14:03.51 | art3mis | yeah me and my sausage fingers |
| 14:03.58 | art3mis | wanna come over and play peppy? ;) |
| 14:05.48 | Lopeppeppy | The temptation is strong, but I'm still a married spud. |
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| 14:07.26 | End | You're a potato? |
| 14:07.50 | Lopeppeppy | I rather think so, I'm not showing many signs of human intelligence lately. |
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| 14:33.02 | art3mis | sgood god i have a horrible headache |
| 14:39.05 | Lopeppeppy | Tylenol, caffeine and a dark room? |
| 14:43.18 | art3mis | nope my neck is out |
| 14:43.20 | art3mis | slept wierd |
| 14:44.08 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, that's gonna mess you up. |
| 14:45.42 | art3mis | so is this being up at 8am stuff |
| 14:45.58 | art3mis | usually i dont get up til around 10 |
| 14:46.16 | art3mis | but its a new year and i need new clients |
| 14:48.28 | Lopeppeppy | *laugh* |
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| 15:01.18 | Lopeppeppy | I'm sort of previewing a bunch of what I have to accomplish this next two months, and the Hideous Factor of some of these website conversions is staggering. |
| 15:05.30 | art3mis | heh |
| 15:06.07 | art3mis | ive been trying to find something that i like to exploit my domain gothi.ca to make me gobs of cash |
| 15:06.17 | art3mis | sadly my better ideas require custom art |
| 15:06.22 | Lopeppeppy | Good luck with that. |
| 15:06.26 | art3mis | something im horrible with ;P |
| 15:07.34 | art3mis | wanna make me some art ;) |
| 15:08.45 | Lopeppeppy | I'm not an artist, I'm a baker. I'll bake a pretty cookie in your honor. |
| 15:08.54 | art3mis | yay |
| 15:08.55 | Lopeppeppy | although I ruined the hamburger helper yesterday, and I don't know how. |
| 15:09.03 | art3mis | wow that takes talent |
| 15:09.06 | art3mis | or lack there of |
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| 15:11.57 | zenzelezz | <art3mis> ive been trying to find something that i like to exploit my domain gothi.ca to make me gobs of cash <--- goth porn |
| 15:17.24 | malreth | goth hamster porn |
| 15:18.07 | MoonWolf | wait would that be goth hamsters or goths WITH hamsters ? |
| 15:18.10 | MoonWolf | be specific. |
| 15:18.27 | zenzelezz | why not both? |
| 15:18.27 | Lopeppeppy | Either is mind-numbingly weird. |
| 15:18.31 | malreth | goths with hamsters would be goth/hamster porn |
| 15:18.39 | malreth | the slash would be necessary |
| 15:18.45 | art3mis | hah goth hamsters |
| 15:19.28 | art3mis | somehow that would prolly do fairly well for hits and posts n stuff |
| 15:19.30 | Lopeppeppy | gothic hamsters having sex does not seem any more interesting than goths having sex with hamsters |
| 15:19.38 | art3mis | hamsters dressed like goths |
| 15:20.50 | Lopeppeppy | Goths dressed as hamsters? |
| 15:21.01 | art3mis | those are called furries ;P |
| 15:21.50 | zenzelezz | who said anything about having sex with hamsters? They could just be decoration |
| 15:22.19 | art3mis | dude check out my nipple rings with hamsters on them! |
| 15:23.02 | Lopeppeppy | Dude, check out my hamsters with nipple rings? |
| 15:23.34 | wereHamster | iih, you all get away from me |
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| 15:24.02 | Lunessa | ... station |
| 15:24.55 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Lunessa. |
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| 15:25.41 | Lopeppeppy | I hear that, Lunessa. |
| 15:25.45 | wereHamster | I really need that, considering what's going on with wowace, where it is heading :-/ |
| 15:26.07 | Lopeppeppy | Oh dear, more of trunks and splits and newfangled stuff? |
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| 15:27.27 | wereHamster | 'trunk' is part of issue, is that so obvious? |
| 15:28.36 | Lonny | Have anyone read the book "Design Patterns: Elements of Reusable Object-Oriented Software" and know if it's restricted to one language or it's pure philosphical ? |
| 15:28.47 | malreth | with a name like that |
| 15:28.55 | malreth | it certainly sounds philosophical |
| 15:29.01 | malreth | and not language restricted |
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| 15:29.07 | Lunessa | I've skimmed it. |
| 15:29.19 | Lunessa | Mostly philosophy of design |
| 15:35.20 | Industrial | only applicable to object oriented languages ie not LUA |
| 15:35.21 | krka | Industrial: Lua is not an acronym. It is a Portuguese word that means moon. |
| 15:35.25 | Industrial | hehe, krka :> |
| 15:35.50 | Lopeppeppy | Ah, a programming language forever presenting a bare bottom to the world. My kind of language. |
| 15:35.58 | Josh_Borke | LUA can be object oriented |
| 15:36.02 | Lonny | The thing is that in some languages the actual design process is pretty different and the author(s) can restrict it to one nature of design process such as C++/Smalltalk and well in the .Net Framework such as C# the concept of design is pretty different so I wonder if someone read it and can tell me that it's pure philosphical :) |
| 15:36.11 | Lunessa | http://www.pvponline.com/2008/01/06/his-precious/ |
| 15:36.53 | malreth | regardless of the actual implementation, the design principle stays the same |
| 15:37.15 | Lonny | Yeah true. |
| 15:38.29 | Lonny | Well I guess I'll order it, it seems good and the reviews seems to be awesome, so why not. :) |
| 15:38.30 | malreth | you could do things like model-view-controller-observer stuff in Lua. OO is a better way to implement it, but it could be done in a procedural language too |
| 15:38.32 | Lopeppeppy | Oh... dear oh dear, Lunessa. |
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| 15:40.14 | Lunessa | I'm not linking today's Penny Arcade... but... DAMN |
| 15:40.35 | Lopeppeppy | Suppose I should go look for it. |
| 15:41.40 | Lopeppeppy | You did miss the hamster discussion, it's very tragic. |
| 15:41.51 | malreth | agreed... tragic |
| 15:42.22 | malreth | give me a bit... i'll gladly open yet another dark corner of your mind with something else that is equally tragic |
| 15:44.21 | Lopeppeppy | Bring extra chocolate. |
| 15:45.04 | Lonny | The reason I asked is due to my knowledge in the .Net (C#, Managed C++,HLA) which is slightly better than the knowldge in C++ and I have no idea what's going there, most of the reviews I read were about the authors and the way they deliver the concept haha :P |
| 15:45.57 | malreth | well... you'd certainly want to be well versed in whatever language the book is presented in |
| 15:47.19 | Lonny | Yeah but well I already ordered it, haha the worst thing can happen is that it will turn out it's purely trash though it's one of the best writers haha so nah :P |
| 15:48.17 | Lunessa | The thing about design books is that they either do a great job of explaining design as it's own beast, or they fail completely to be useful. |
| 15:48.22 | Lopeppeppy | Might give you more reason to explore the language, if the book is interesting but a little above you. |
| 15:48.52 | malreth | no... C++ is trash |
| 15:48.58 | malreth | not worth learning |
| 15:49.01 | malreth | waste of time |
| 15:49.10 | malreth | learn Java instead. It's superior. |
| 15:49.10 | Lonny | haha |
| 15:49.17 | Lonny | OH NO! :| |
| 15:49.36 | Lopeppeppy | It's all trash, dear. |
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| 15:50.20 | Lunessa | ~lart malreth |
| 15:50.20 | purl | frags malreth with his BFG9000 |
| 15:50.58 | Lonny | I rather go back to Smalltalk, Assembly then ? :D |
| 15:52.05 | malreth | Objective-C |
| 15:52.19 | krka | agreed, c++ is crap |
| 15:52.40 | malreth | Obj-C: It's like an alcoholic version of Smalltalk |
| 15:52.53 | Lonny | Haha |
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| 15:58.05 | Lonny | Ironically, I read a book about "Design Patterns in C#" which well the author actually made a fundamental mistake and now I wonder how many programmers using assessors methods instead of properties haha.. |
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| 15:59.16 | malreth | ah ha ha ha!!! |
| 15:59.24 | malreth | i don't know what you're talking about |
| 15:59.29 | Lonny | Well the author actually created the book "Design Patterns in Java" I think he copy/paste more than half of that book |
| 16:00.11 | Lonny | Ah well :P |
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| 16:11.24 | Lunessa | It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion - It is from the juice of the sacred beans of Java that the thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire a shaking. The shaking becomes a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. |
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| 16:14.03 | Lunessa | The slow blade penetrates the shield. |
| 16:16.11 | Lukian | Lunessa, this is sensual, please continue :) |
| 16:16.27 | Lunessa | Freudian much? |
| 16:16.28 | zenzelezz | no, it's Dune |
| 16:16.48 | Lopeppeppy | I think it's hot, you can write poetical at me anytime, baby. *wink* |
| 16:17.03 | Lukian | Agreed :D |
| 16:17.24 | zenzelezz | don't give him the credit ffs, Herbert wrote it long ago |
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| 16:18.28 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa... I'm sure you can be more imaginative than that. |
| 16:19.30 | Lunessa | cookies was supposed to have quotes and a *wink* on it, but the phone rang... |
| 16:20.26 | Lopeppeppy | I see... I'm cheated of my fulfillment because the phone rang? |
| 16:20.51 | Lunessa | Shall I compare the to an elegant function? How sleek and memory efficient thou art, like itterations on a small table... |
| 16:21.08 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh, that sounds like Hitchhiker's Guide erotica.... |
| 16:22.33 | Lunessa | I bet you /really/ know where your 'towel' is at.... |
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| 16:24.47 | Lunessa | Did you sas that hoopy Lopeppeppy ? There's a frood who really knows where her towel's at. |
| 16:25.42 | Lunessa | Squirrely-wrath! |
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| 16:25.48 | malreth | sass |
| 16:26.47 | Lopeppeppy | Hoopy Peppy, reporting for duty. |
| 16:26.52 | Lopeppeppy | My towel is in the dryer right now. |
| 16:27.00 | Lunessa | I'm only 6oz into my first cola, I can be forgiven a small typo? |
| 16:27.10 | malreth | UNFORGIVABLE! |
| 16:28.34 | malreth | for Lopeppeppy: http://www.sinfest.net/comikaze/comics/2008-01-07.gif |
| 16:28.56 | Lunessa | My entire invasion fleet is swallowed by a small dog. |
| 16:29.59 | Lunessa | Oh no. Not again! |
| 16:30.32 | Lopeppeppy | If I drank coffee, malreth, that would be good. Instead, I eat peanuts and look for pints of bitter. |
| 16:30.53 | malreth | coffee helps you move mountains, tho |
| 16:31.07 | Lopeppeppy | Coffee smells bad. Diet coke this morning. |
| 16:31.09 | Lunessa | Or swim to Tahitit |
| 16:31.16 | Lunessa | Tahitti even |
| 16:31.18 | Lopeppeppy | Diet Mountain Dew when it's in season. |
| 16:31.26 | Lopeppeppy | I'd settle for swimming anywhere, Lunessa. |
| 16:31.43 | Lunessa | going to be 80 degrees F here today... |
| 16:31.48 | Lunessa | I'm just saying. |
| 16:35.11 | Lopeppeppy | Ugh. Vile demon, get thee behind me. |
| 16:36.24 | Lunessa | Temptation. I has it. |
| 16:36.38 | zenzelezz | stop speaking dirty peppy |
| 16:37.25 | Lunessa | I try to keep things mostly PG-13 with only the slight foray into R in public channels. |
| 16:37.49 | Lopeppeppy | I'm innocent as the driven snow. |
| 16:38.41 | Lopeppeppy | Stop driving over the innocent snowbanks then! :P |
| 16:39.53 | malreth | we don't have snow here in Texas... Innocent or otherwise |
| 16:40.47 | Lunessa | The only snow we have is .. imported from south of the border. |
| 16:41.05 | Lopeppeppy | Snow. I has it. |
| 16:41.18 | malreth | GIEF |
| 16:41.20 | Lopeppeppy | although... it's supposed to be 60 here tomorrow. |
| 16:41.52 | Saint-N | innocent isnt the word to concentrate on "driven" is the part shes more interested in being ;P |
| 16:41.55 | Lopeppeppy | Above 45 and rainy all week. There won't be snow left soon. |
| 16:42.07 | Lopeppeppy | Saint-N! I beg to differ! |
| 16:42.23 | Saint-N | you can beg all ya want dearie, but the restraints aint coming off this time |
| 16:42.43 | Saint-N | they needto rename java |
| 16:42.50 | Saint-N | i keep reading it as Jawa |
| 16:42.57 | Lopeppeppy | Eewoks are cuter. |
| 16:43.24 | Saint-N | eewoks serve one purpose |
| 16:43.32 | Saint-N | cheap renewable glove liner |
| 16:43.33 | Lopeppeppy | My cat is so drunk she can't groom herself without falling off the chair. Priceless. |
| 16:44.16 | Cide | did you add some vodka to the water again? |
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| 16:47.58 | Intangir | hey folks |
| 16:48.05 | Lunessa | Morning. |
| 16:49.14 | Intangir | imaging your a complete PvP junky, thats all you do, you have pretty damn good gear, and your doing AB with this guild doing premades for 3 nights, you get #1 score every game but 2. then the 4th night, a new guy running the premade tells you you have guard duty. what do you do ;) |
| 16:49.26 | Intangir | imagine rather.. |
| 16:49.41 | Cide | you guard? |
| 16:49.48 | Intangir | never!! |
| 16:49.49 | Intangir | lol |
| 16:50.11 | Cide | if it makes your epeen larger, go for the rambo, I guess |
| 16:50.21 | Intangir | EXACTLY :) |
| 16:50.29 | Lopeppeppy | Cide: Worse, I refreshed the catnip in the destructo-toy. |
| 16:51.20 | malreth | you follow orders, soldier |
| 16:51.23 | malreth | get in line |
| 16:51.34 | malreth | or it's peeling potatoes for you |
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| 16:51.49 | Lopeppeppy | Hmm... I do need something for dinner tonight. |
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| 16:53.01 | Lunessa | http://ambernight.org/ i lawled |
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| 16:54.30 | malreth | as a psych major, i applaud the movie "Teeth" |
| 16:55.12 | malreth | oh... i didn't know it was filmed here in Austin... |
| 16:55.39 | Lunessa | I smell a road trip for a movie weekend... |
| 16:55.51 | Intangir | whats teeth? |
| 16:56.42 | cogwheel | :P |
| 16:57.03 | Intangir | is it safe for work? |
| 16:57.09 | Fisker- | hai cockwheel |
| 16:57.11 | Fisker- | grats with mvp |
| 16:57.26 | malreth | it's work safe |
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| 16:57.40 | malreth | there's screaming in the trailer |
| 16:57.46 | cogwheel | work safe to look at... probably shouldn't go doing speech-to-text though :P |
| 16:57.50 | Lopeppeppy | OMG, that's funny. So many vampire short stories are on this theme. |
| 16:57.55 | cogwheel | text-to-speech* |
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| 16:58.46 | Intangir | ahahahahaha |
| 16:58.49 | Intangir | wtf is that! |
| 16:59.19 | Lopeppeppy | Funny, that's what that is. |
| 16:59.21 | Intangir | omg that is the most bizzare movie description i have ever seen |
| 16:59.22 | malreth | ~wiki sigmund freud |
| 16:59.52 | Lunessa | Any one else read Julienne May's Paleocene Exile series? |
| 16:59.53 | Intangir | !c us mug'thol intangir |
| 16:59.56 | ThraeBot | Intangir: Intangir, Level 70 Undead Rogue: armory cache miss. Play more, nubstick! (Incomplete data. Character may be awaiting refresh on Armoury.) [[ TBR: ? ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2c9est ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2twxfg ][ Updated: Mon Jan 7 12:05:40 2008 EST ]] |
| 17:00.38 | Saint-N | ab and av would be so much more fun if you could "defect |
| 17:00.53 | Intangir | hehehe |
| 17:01.03 | Saint-N | just start killing those lippy "generals" |
| 17:01.18 | Intangir | i really want an FFA BG |
| 17:01.22 | Saint-N | hell if it gave honour i'd sit in the cave and kill afkers ;P |
| 17:01.23 | Intangir | or like last man standing |
| 17:01.26 | Intangir | or something unique |
| 17:01.49 | Intangir | or a 4 way BG |
| 17:02.19 | Saint-N | wasnt hyjal supposed to be some big ol crossfaction raid thing? |
| 17:02.52 | Lopeppeppy | Julienne May sounds like a familiar author, but so many books are packed in boxes that I can't swear to it. |
| 17:03.08 | Saint-N | Dear Blizzard: For WoTLK think you could add in some way for me to leagally hunt down and kill memebrs of my own faction? Thanks! |
| 17:03.25 | foxlit | "Inactive" should mark you as PvP-FFA |
| 17:03.38 | Saint-N | Distracting shot is fun and all, but it gets boring |
| 17:04.25 | Lopeppeppy | Dear Saint-N. We'd be happy to include a way for you to gank your friends as freely as your enemies! We've introduced a new faction, TKFT. You may /join TKFT at any time to flag yourself as a Free For All PvP target. Spread the word to your friends, and when they join, gank to your heart's content! Sincerely, Blizzard |
| 17:05.00 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: The Non-Born King, etc. |
| 17:05.14 | Saint-N | shouldnt it be TKYFF ? |
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| 17:05.26 | Saint-N | The Kill Your Faction Faction ? |
| 17:05.54 | Lopeppeppy | Still not ringing a bell, Luness, although the author does. Too many books, too little time in my world. |
| 17:06.08 | Lopeppeppy | Team Killing F**ktards, Saint-N. |
| 17:06.18 | Saint-N | haha |
| 17:07.05 | Saint-N | http://www.netscrap.com/netscrap_detail.cfm?scrap_id=16 |
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| 17:11.22 | Lopeppeppy | Could not load, Saint-N. |
| 17:11.28 | Saint-N | lies! |
| 17:11.55 | Lopeppeppy | No, one of my faults is telling the truth. |
| 17:12.23 | Saint-N | http://www.snopes.com/weddings/embarrass/bothered.asp |
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| 17:12.27 | Saint-N | try that one |
| 17:12.30 | Saint-N | same thing |
| 17:13.36 | Lopeppeppy | I would do that, Saint-N. |
| 17:13.48 | Lopeppeppy | I'm a heartbeat from doing something like it, even. *grin* |
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| 17:24.21 | Lunessa | *chuckles at Lopeppeppy* I'm sure you'd have plenty of offers. |
| 17:27.04 | Saint-N | yeah but most of those are of the ltr sort ;P |
| 17:28.09 | Lopeppeppy | ltr? |
| 17:28.55 | Saint-N | long term |
| 17:29.07 | Saint-N | i missed the NT on are |
| 17:31.03 | Lopeppeppy | Ah, yes. I'm a settled kind of gnome, I'm not looking to move into the pound or foster care. :P |
| 17:33.57 | Lunessa | haha... "Puppy dog eyes" Won't you adopt a Lopeppeppy today? |
| 17:34.36 | Lopeppeppy | Exactly. |
| 17:34.43 | Lopeppeppy | I'm even housebroken! |
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| 17:36.32 | Lunessa | Such a deal. Had her shots and everything. |
| 17:41.06 | Lopeppeppy | Um... ascairt of needles? |
| 17:41.16 | Lopeppeppy | How about, "will not bite, so you shoudn't get rabies". |
| 17:41.35 | Saint-N | lies! |
| 17:41.46 | Saint-N | and i read that nice typo as ascariot ;P |
| 17:42.00 | Saint-N | peppy is a Judas of needles! |
| 17:42.09 | Lopeppeppy | Um.... okie dokie weirdling. |
| 17:42.15 | zenzelezz | I remain unconvinced that peppy doesn't bite |
| 17:42.24 | zenzelezz | maybe not with bad intentions |
| 17:42.59 | Saint-N | or without special request ;P |
| 17:43.13 | Industrial | haha |
| 17:43.36 | Lunessa | no biting reduces the number of willing adoptors. |
| 17:44.08 | zenzelezz | why is it that everything I say is interpreted as bad? |
| 17:44.34 | Lopeppeppy | Oh... um, how about training classes after adoption then? A lot people need to do that with their pound-puppies. |
| 17:45.25 | Shirik|AFK | What is "arena netherdrake" ? |
| 17:45.39 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+v Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 17:45.40 | zenzelezz | PvP reward |
| 17:45.53 | zenzelezz | x% best rated people |
| 17:45.59 | zenzelezz | (I think) |
| 17:45.59 | Shirik | interesting |
| 17:46.05 | Shirik | at the end of the season? |
| 17:46.09 | zenzelezz | yes |
| 17:46.09 | Lopeppeppy | Shows that you're totally uber in a flying-mount sorta way. |
| 17:46.21 | zenzelezz | think the model is an armored netherdrake |
| 17:46.28 | Shirik | x% best on the battlegroup or all servers? |
| 17:46.43 | zenzelezz | not sure. Realm or battlegroup I think |
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| 17:46.55 | Shirik | doubt it's the realm |
| 17:46.58 | Shirik | mine's tiny I would have seen one |
| 17:47.06 | Shirik | I know 90% of the people |
| 17:47.07 | End | it's battlegroup |
| 17:49.01 | End | and it's only 0.5% I believe |
| 17:49.07 | zenzelezz | you should've been on EU as season one ended |
| 17:49.20 | zenzelezz | huge mess up with the drakes, tons of people who shouldn't have them got one |
| 17:49.53 | End | there was a mess up on US too, but not -quite- as bad, and in the opposite direction |
| 17:50.06 | End | which is less messy to fix, since at least you are removing them :P |
| 17:50.13 | Lopeppeppy | I do remember that, ugh was General horrible for a while. |
| 17:50.30 | End | er, since you aren't I mean |
| 17:51.05 | End | ah yes, found the percentages |
| 17:51.06 | End | 1. Gladiator (Top 0.5%) |
| 17:51.06 | End | 2. Duelist (Top 0.5% - 3%) |
| 17:51.06 | End | 3. Rival (Top 3% - 10%) |
| 17:51.06 | End | 4. Challenger (Top 10 - 35%) |
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| 17:52.16 | Lunessa | General is always horrible. |
| 17:52.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Not always |
| 17:53.13 | ScytheBlade1 | You occasionally get gems like this: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3268467672&postId=32333457675&sid=1 |
| 17:53.39 | Lunessa | Well, it does occasionally afford me the opportunity to land a zinger... |
| 17:54.34 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 17:54.37 | ScytheBlade1 | PTRs are down for good |
| 17:54.49 | ScytheBlade1 | And bam, first four threads on the PTR forums contain "PTR" |
| 17:54.53 | End | down foreeever?! |
| 17:54.57 | End | and evvverrrr! |
| 17:55.02 | Lopeppeppy | I tune out of General channels completely, to conserve sanity points in the great Lovecraftian game of life. |
| 17:55.49 | cogwheel | General amuses me less now that I can't be an asshat... |
| 17:56.04 | Industrial | why cant you be an asshat |
| 17:56.17 | Lopeppeppy | Green dinosaur ++ |
| 17:56.18 | End | Your asshattiness was probably within acceptable levels :P |
| 17:56.32 | Industrial | oic |
| 17:56.32 | ScytheBlade1 | I look at it this way |
| 17:56.34 | End | unless they said "you can be green, but be less asshat, kthx" |
| 17:56.41 | ScytheBlade1 | They liked your trolling enough to make you green |
| 17:56.46 | cogwheel | End: in a sense they did... |
| 17:56.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Why disappoint by lowering the frequency of your trolling?! |
| 17:56.58 | Lunessa | I don't think they would ever make me green. I'm a major asshat. |
| 17:57.04 | cogwheel | i had to "sign" an agreement that including posting guidelines :P |
| 17:57.07 | End | lol |
| 17:57.10 | cogwheel | s/ing/ed/ |
| 17:57.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Booo |
| 17:57.14 | End | ok then :P |
| 17:57.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Not that I'm surprised, but, still |
| 17:57.24 | Industrial | ^ |
| 17:57.39 | Lopeppeppy | I even promised not to be an asshat, it was a world record day. |
| 17:57.45 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 17:58.00 | Industrial | how long did you last? |
| 17:58.06 | Industrial | one day? |
| 17:58.13 | ScytheBlade1 | cogwheel: this just means you need a second account |
| 17:58.20 | Lunessa | Actually, not only am I an asshat, but I'm wrong about 20% of the time and my code isn't elegant. |
| 17:58.21 | End | hmm, tomorrow is tuesday? |
| 17:58.29 | End | I guess we'll probably see 2.3.2 tomorrow |
| 17:58.34 | ScytheBlade1 | I sure hope |
| 17:58.37 | ScytheBlade1 | WTB ICEBLOCK. |
| 17:58.47 | End | that's going to be interesting, at least |
| 17:59.01 | Lopeppeppy | Whee-fun. I look forward to everyone having panic attacks. |
| 17:59.05 | ScytheBlade1 | I might be 57 points deep into fire ("standard" is 48) |
| 17:59.12 | ScytheBlade1 | I might really want a free Ice Block |
| 17:59.19 | Lopeppeppy | And trying to download the patch if I'm blocked. Hmm. |
| 17:59.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Blocked? |
| 18:00.16 | Lopeppeppy | It seems that only one of the computers in the network can download successfully from Bliz, the other gets all blocked by firewall issues. I usually just go all FilePlanet and be done. |
| 18:00.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Eh I'll mirror the patch on my webserver, if you care |
| 18:00.46 | Lunessa | Port Forwarding FTW |
| 18:01.01 | ScytheBlade1 | I will regardless, but just fyi |
| 18:01.25 | Lopeppeppy | All my ports are properly forwarded, I think it's from the IP, honestly. Packet dropping tricks. |
| 18:01.46 | Lunessa | packet shaping since it's a torrent. |
| 18:02.23 | Lopeppeppy | They shapes, they drops, they puts them in a bukkit where I can't have 'em. *le sigh* |
| 18:02.36 | Lunessa | my packets, you haz them |
| 18:02.58 | Lopeppeppy | Gifs dem bak. |
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| 18:04.28 | cogwheel | --> print(strsplit) |
| 18:04.28 | batbot | cogwheel: nil |
| 18:04.33 | Lunessa | So cog, I think I've finally discovered a real use (for me) of MacroSequence. I'm going to make up "use the right potion/stone/food/drink" macros for my hotkeys. |
| 18:04.49 | cogwheel | batrick: batbot uses standard Lua distro? |
| 18:04.53 | Lunessa | Bah... You need a str to split |
| 18:05.08 | cogwheel | Lunessa: sure, if i was interested in a result ;) |
| 18:05.25 | sysrage | the right potion as in like the TK only pots if you're in TK? |
| 18:06.08 | Lunessa | sys, like do I have those, do I have certain foods, etc. |
| 18:06.27 | Lunessa | I like autobar for that, but it got to be too much really. |
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| 18:06.51 | sysrage | i didn't think it was possible with a macro. i'd love that. tired of swappin up my potion hotbars |
| 18:06.59 | cogwheel | --> print(wow) |
| 18:07.00 | batbot | cogwheel: nil |
| 18:07.35 | cogwheel | Cide: clad|away: I updated lua511wow this morning with a couple fixes to the trig functions |
| 18:08.20 | Lunessa | sys, Cog wrote an AddOn that might let me make what I'm looking for. |
| 18:08.55 | cogwheel | wouldn't autobar work for that? |
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| 18:11.05 | Lopeppeppy | I'm still pretty deeply in love with Autobar myself. |
| 18:12.20 | kd3 | hm... odds just jumped that we're finally getting 2.3.2 tomorrow |
| 18:12.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 18:12.29 | ScytheBlade1 | wtb iceblock |
| 18:12.34 | kd3 | indeed |
| 18:12.47 | Lopeppeppy | Might be time to dust off the mageling. |
| 18:12.50 | sysrage | wtb muh free personal bloodlust |
| 18:12.51 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm 57 points fire... it'll be fun. :) |
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| 18:13.04 | kd3 | heh. I'm still 10/48/3 |
| 18:13.07 | Lunessa | Autobar does. But I'm looking to have a keybound button and not load autobar. |
| 18:13.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Honestly? Clearcasting, while nice, won't solve your mana issues... only a shadow priest can (in PvE raids) |
| 18:13.34 | Lunessa | I dumped Autobar because it was actually slowing me down in terms of reaction time. |
| 18:13.35 | Lopeppeppy | Button, button, who's got the button.... |
| 18:13.40 | ScytheBlade1 | So I just ditched it, invested the points in fire, and now I love my mage |
| 18:13.51 | ScytheBlade1 | (Stunlocking a rogue from range? Yes please) |
| 18:13.54 | ScytheBlade1 | (He was pissed) |
| 18:14.11 | Shirik | clad|away: When you get back, this is what I was talking about earlier (the paper on 2ROT13) http://www.mobikom.at/2rot13.pdf |
| 18:14.17 | cogwheel | Lunessa: oh... you want one key that does a sequence of fallthrough macros? |
| 18:14.32 | Lunessa | Actually, I want three. |
| 18:14.44 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: You don't give clearcasting enough credit |
| 18:14.47 | cogwheel | heh |
| 18:14.56 | End | Because rot13 twice is twice the security! |
| 18:15.06 | Shirik | It can get you a lot of mana back, don't just look at the mana you didn't spend |
| 18:15.20 | Shirik | If you use it correctly you can get a ton of mana back due to the 5SR |
| 18:15.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: do too... on a Leotheras run, if I had clearcasting, it would have restored ~2.4k mana |
| 18:15.38 | Lunessa | so yes cogwheel it's like using a bazooka to kill a flea, but it's a use I'm willing to make of it. |
| 18:15.49 | ScytheBlade1 | I actually did a LOT of the math on this for a guildie who called me on it |
| 18:16.11 | Shirik | that's... not good? |
| 18:16.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Considering I spent over 40k mana, no, it isn't |
| 18:16.41 | ScytheBlade1 | It's roughly equal to a single mana gem |
| 18:17.10 | kd3 | wtb 3x mana emerald |
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| 18:17.13 | Lopeppeppy | Killing fleas is very important. |
| 18:17.18 | Shirik | wait wait hold up |
| 18:17.26 | Shirik | what class are we talking about here |
| 18:17.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Haha |
| 18:17.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Mage |
| 18:17.34 | Shirik | ok |
| 18:17.37 | Shirik | never mind |
| 18:17.40 | ScytheBlade1 | mmkay |
| 18:17.44 | Shirik | I'm thinking priests |
| 18:17.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Wouldn't know |
| 18:17.57 | Lunessa | I <3 the 'clearcasting' talent for priests. |
| 18:18.02 | Shirik | it's awesome |
| 18:18.29 | ScytheBlade1 | I ran the math on a mage... I'm going to have mana problems in PvE with or without clearcasting. I'm not going to have mana problems in PvE given a shadow priest, again, with or without clearcasting. |
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| 18:18.36 | ScytheBlade1 | So why am I spending 10 talents points... exactly? |
| 18:18.49 | |Jelly|Laptop | Cause you want to. |
| 18:18.53 | ScytheBlade1 | I agree |
| 18:19.31 | Shirik | We actually do tend to give the mages a shadow priest |
| 18:19.37 | Lopeppeppy | Emo weekends suck, darlin'. Take an extra. *hug* |
| 18:19.46 | Shirik | not the healers |
| 18:19.52 | ScytheBlade1 | If you don't, they'll be sucking mana for the last 40% of the fight |
| 18:20.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Healers have regen, mages largely don'e |
| 18:20.08 | cogwheel | |Jelly|Laptop: were you without electricity for 36 hours? |
| 18:20.10 | ScytheBlade1 | *don't |
| 18:20.22 | ScytheBlade1 | We have the most out of the other DPS casters, but, it still pales in comparison |
| 18:20.23 | |Jelly|Laptop | No, I took a trip |
| 18:20.34 | |Jelly|Laptop | Which, you know, ended up with me driving home, alone. |
| 18:20.43 | Lopeppeppy | Awww. Dum wimmins. |
| 18:21.25 | End | who needs mana regen anyways!? *life tap* |
| 18:21.25 | Shirik | ~glomp |Jelly|Laptop |
| 18:21.26 | purl | ACTION becomes fully animated as her eyes squint in an upside-down-U formation, gets a running start and tackle-glomps |Jelly|Laptop |
| 18:21.31 | ScytheBlade1 | End: die die die die die |
| 18:21.42 | Shirik | uh |Jelly|Laptop is this the trip I'm thinking of? |
| 18:21.43 | End | siphon life more than takes care of it :P |
| 18:21.49 | roppin | Could anyone recomend a minimap skin? with nice looks toit |
| 18:21.55 | |Jelly|Laptop | Probably not |
| 18:22.03 | Shirik | hm ok |
| 18:22.04 | End | although, it doesn't get to, since I get healed really quickly :o |
| 18:22.07 | Lunessa | Sorry |Jelly|Laptop - I should have gone to drink beer with you. |
| 18:22.14 | |Jelly|Laptop | I needed it. |
| 18:22.32 | |Jelly|Laptop | Lets just say it was SUPER JEALOUSY MODE all weekend, if you know what I mean (which only Lunessa does). lol |
| 18:22.38 | laindir | End: yeah, the math on full affl is /crazy/ :) |
| 18:23.03 | End | not to mention I have dark pact before I even life tap :P |
| 18:23.13 | Lunessa | You should have grabbed my cell number of facebook. |
| 18:23.24 | Shirik | End: Most healers aren't watching close enough to know the difference between a life tap and actual damage |
| 18:23.24 | |Jelly|Laptop | Yeah. I should have. :( |
| 18:23.29 | Lunessa | Hell, you could have crashed at my place, drank beer and shots and played wow. |
| 18:23.30 | |Jelly|Laptop | I didn't even think of that. |
| 18:23.50 | Lopeppeppy | Shots with a friend makes things look better. Grab phone number now, for future reference! |
| 18:24.03 | |Jelly|Laptop | Well, it seems I'll be going back sometime. |
| 18:24.11 | laindir | Shirik: and there're some who just don't care, some fights where it's handy though, like gruul |
| 18:24.15 | |Jelly|Laptop | So I'll definitely have it then. lol |
| 18:24.23 | End | some fights I think our healers are just bored |
| 18:24.34 | Shirik | like gruul? |
| 18:24.40 | End | we don't do gruul anymore |
| 18:24.42 | ScytheBlade1 | End: lol - "let's heal the warlock!" "okay!" |
| 18:24.45 | Shirik | I'm bored in gruul :P |
| 18:24.54 | |Jelly|Laptop | me too but i still like the fight |
| 18:24.56 | Beladona | gotta give up raids as you progress |
| 18:25.00 | End | ScytheBlade1: that's when they wanna spam huge heals 8-) |
| 18:25.05 | Beladona | we gave up gruul, kara, and mag |
| 18:25.11 | ScytheBlade1 | End: I know, it makes mages (me) jealous :( |
| 18:25.18 | Shirik | I used to use like 3 mana pots per attempt on gruul |
| 18:25.21 | Shirik | now I don't use any |
| 18:25.30 | laindir | I honestly don't know what my guild's raiding any more... I haven't really been on in weeks |
| 18:25.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh, same |
| 18:25.34 | Lunessa | |Jelly|Laptop: It's only an hour across town to the place. *bonk* I could have made it out there fast. |
| 18:25.35 | Beladona | but playing as a healer, I can speak for it. It does get boring sometimes |
| 18:25.40 | |Jelly|Laptop | lol |
| 18:25.43 | End | I -used- to play a healer |
| 18:25.44 | Beladona | just feels so easy |
| 18:25.54 | End | I found it fun when we were progressing |
| 18:25.59 | |Jelly|Laptop | Might have been nice considering I spent the night with her boyfriend and all his friends. Quite awkward. |
| 18:26.06 | End | but as soon as it becomes "on farm", it bored me to tears |
| 18:26.08 | Beladona | well, minus some encounters where things can get messy |
| 18:26.15 | laindir | Shirikm: shaman have it made on gruul because hateful strike procs water shield |
| 18:26.25 | laindir | *shirik >.< |
| 18:26.27 | malreth | http://www.warrenellis.com/?p=5426 |
| 18:26.32 | Shirik | why the hell are your shamans getting hit by hateful strike |
| 18:26.39 | End | good question o_O |
| 18:26.42 | End | or do you mean shatter? |
| 18:26.48 | laindir | we're not... but it procs the shield on everyone in the raid no matter who it hits |
| 18:26.52 | Beladona | aye |
| 18:26.54 | End | weird... |
| 18:26.56 | Shirik | wtf? |
| 18:26.56 | Beladona | it might be a bug |
| 18:27.02 | Beladona | but I am not reporting it.... |
| 18:27.07 | End | lol |
| 18:27.19 | End | hateful strike was always been a goofy ability |
| 18:27.23 | Beladona | there are other encoutners too like that |
| 18:27.34 | Beladona | where you take almost no dmg, but an aura still procs your shield |
| 18:27.37 | laindir | it will also break furbolg form on people using dartol's rod of transformation, that's how I first figured it out |
| 18:27.38 | kd3 | gruul's just a buggy fight |
| 18:27.46 | Lunessa | malreth: BRILLIANT |
| 18:27.55 | End | yeah, it is |
| 18:29.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh. I'm sure everyone here has seen "How Juggernaut Learned Naxxramas" (picture) |
| 18:29.44 | ScytheBlade1 | That guild is currently raiding Black Temple (cleared it months ago) and... Gruul |
| 18:30.10 | ScytheBlade1 | No Hyjal, no T5 instances, no T4 instances... except for Gruul. |
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| 18:30.40 | malreth | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/04/this-weeks-must-see-vide_n_79615.html |
| 18:31.08 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3773318053&sid=1&pageNo=2#23 <-- it's just funny to read that they raid only BT and Gruul.. |
| 18:31.18 | malreth | my link is better |
| 18:31.25 | malreth | it'll make you sick |
| 18:31.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Except that it's "must see videos" which means flash videos |
| 18:32.06 | ScytheBlade1 | And I lack a flash player, so, I don't even click those links anymore |
| 18:33.03 | malreth | What's Gruul? |
| 18:33.13 | malreth | Is that like a Ghostbusters thing? |
| 18:33.20 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Gruul |
| 18:33.44 | foxlit | Maulgar > Gruul, tbh |
| 18:33.48 | foxlit | I get to tank something! |
| 18:33.55 | kd3 | magetank <3 |
| 18:34.01 | malreth | ~malreth |
| 18:34.02 | purl | malreth is always right |
| 18:34.06 | Lopeppeppy | Gruul wasn't so bad once people learned to frellin' duck and bandage |
| 18:34.09 | ScytheBlade1 | I liked tanking it, then it got old |
| 18:34.10 | laindir | foxlit: indeed... Maulgar's Lair ftw |
| 18:34.22 | End | hunter? |
| 18:34.23 | foxlit | Druid tanking, np! |
| 18:34.25 | End | ah |
| 18:34.50 | End | normal druid tank? or moonkin tanking shaman? :P |
| 18:34.57 | foxlit | Moonkin tanking shaman :P |
| 18:35.09 | foxlit | I tank all sorts of crap, but not for very long :) |
| 18:35.09 | End | we used to have a druid do that, but then he had to go resto :( |
| 18:35.22 | End | I made fun of him for being a fatty chicken |
| 18:35.29 | End | but now he's a ...barky tree |
| 18:35.31 | foxlit | [Doomfried turkey] |
| 18:35.39 | zenzelezz | Gruul is annoying when you're in T5... have to stand in the cave in to get enough rage to stay second on threat |
| 18:35.53 | End | I'd imagine |
| 18:35.57 | foxlit | Man up and don't wear any pants |
| 18:36.09 | zenzelezz | I never wear pants while raiding |
| 18:36.12 | zenzelezz | too much excitement |
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| 18:36.24 | Shirik|AFK | Lopeppeppy: Kinda like lurker |
| 18:36.38 | Shirik|AFK | like seriously I don't know what's so hard about ducking down when blue beam of death comes towards you |
| 18:36.47 | End | I like lurker, if merely if it's because I don't have to worry about threat :P |
| 18:36.49 | foxlit | We had our first post-holiday raid yesterday |
| 18:36.57 | foxlit | PAIN and AGONY |
| 18:37.11 | Lopeppeppy | I'm not looking forward to my first post-holiday raid either. |
| 18:37.11 | laindir | end: reminds me of the days of MC :) |
| 18:37.22 | foxlit | http://www.spirit-dreams.org/box/alar.png |
| 18:37.28 | foxlit | That's how sad it was |
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| 18:38.00 | Shirik|AFK | a druid beat out the warlocks |
| 18:38.00 | Shirik|AFK | wtf? |
| 18:38.21 | ScytheBlade1 | I can show you something borderline worse |
| 18:38.24 | ScytheBlade1 | (Once I find the pic) |
| 18:38.24 | zenzelezz | feral tank? |
| 18:38.32 | foxlit | Al'ar actually enraged |
| 18:38.44 | zenzelezz | I didn't know that was possible |
| 18:38.45 | foxlit | We killed him anyway, but, dammit, we didn't trip the 10m timer even on the first clear |
| 18:38.51 | ScytheBlade1 | http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/1571/wowscrnshot102307215351mx2.jpg |
| 18:38.57 | ScytheBlade1 | #2 = feral druid, note the fight |
| 18:39.00 | foxlit | No, moonkin |
| 18:39.23 | Shirik|AFK | those dps numbers are barely high enough for gruul :P |
| 18:39.53 | foxlit | Shirik: there aren't really any special dps buffs involved |
| 18:39.59 | End | ScytheBlade1: o_O |
| 18:40.05 | foxlit | And dps is probably low simply because people ran out of mana :) |
| 18:40.07 | ScytheBlade1 | End: I wasn't in on that fight ;P |
| 18:40.09 | Lukian | ScytheBlade1, please check the 'colour by class' box. |
| 18:40.10 | Shirik|AFK | ah fair enough |
| 18:40.11 | Lukian | :p |
| 18:40.16 | foxlit | ScytheBlade1: are groups horizontal or vertical on that grid? |
| 18:40.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Vertical |
| 18:40.42 | Lopeppeppy | I really need to bite the bullet and try grid one of these days. *sigh* |
| 18:40.48 | kd3 | grid <3 |
| 18:40.50 | Saint-N | dont do it peppy! |
| 18:40.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Even on my *mage* I have grid |
| 18:41.01 | Saint-N | its a trap set by "tha man!" |
| 18:41.02 | ScytheBlade1 | It's nice to have |
| 18:41.04 | foxlit | Scythe: wow, groups smell of fail, then :) |
| 18:41.10 | Saint-N | perfectraid is all you need |
| 18:41.15 | ScytheBlade1 | foxlit: horrible fail |
| 18:41.24 | foxlit | It's qq-where's-my-caster-support fail |
| 18:41.33 | Lopeppeppy | I use PerfectRaid right now, but I want to be able to understand Grid and advise my pallies who use it. |
| 18:41.42 | ScytheBlade1 | foxlit: and a FERAL DRUID on LURKER pulled #2 DPS |
| 18:41.43 | Shirik|AFK | Lopeppeppy: Don't do it! |
| 18:41.46 | kd3 | hm... wine doesn't like having wow data on XFS... flew in to shat from SMV and wow just ground to a halt waiting for textures to load |
| 18:41.57 | Shirik|AFK | Tell your pallies to stop being nubs |
| 18:42.34 | End | yeah, lurker is so bad for melee |
| 18:42.39 | foxlit | ScytheBlade1: feral druids are competitive, tbh |
| 18:42.39 | Lopeppeppy | I do, Shirik, all the time. But if I can't have intelligent conversations with them, I'm the nub. :) |
| 18:42.41 | ScytheBlade1 | AND A FERAL DRUID DID #2 |
| 18:42.42 | End | gg whirl or whatever it's alled |
| 18:42.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
| 18:42.47 | End | called* |
| 18:42.48 | foxlit | Especially on some of the more caster-hating fights |
| 18:42.59 | End | and ranged can't pull aggro |
| 18:43.06 | foxlit | For comparison, http://www.spirit-dreams.org/box/anetheron.png |
| 18:43.08 | End | unless there is noone in melee like ragnaros :P |
| 18:43.14 | foxlit | That's on a reasonable day with consumables |
| 18:43.33 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:43.52 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:44.05 | Lopeppeppy | I'm sure my raid group would also make people ROFL. |
| 18:44.29 | Shirik|AFK | oh man |
| 18:44.35 | Shirik|AFK | I need to go get something to eat bad, I keep misreading words |
| 18:44.41 | Shirik|AFK | that's not a good sign. I'll be back. |
| 18:44.47 | ScytheBlade1 | That sounds good |
| 18:44.50 | ScytheBlade1 | mmm food |
| 18:45.55 | End | hmm, my guild isn't embarrassing I guess, although we do have the few people we tend to have who suck but we have raid slots to fill |
| 18:47.30 | Saint-N | i just cant bring myself to raid |
| 18:47.41 | Saint-N | i cant stand the mentality of guild applications |
| 18:47.55 | Saint-N | and the normal "non fun" associated with it |
| 18:48.04 | Lopeppeppy | I'm finding it hard to stand the mentality of my raiding group as well. Non-fun is starting to happen a lot more often lately. |
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| 18:48.44 | End | we have our fair share of bad raids, but enough of them are fun for me to keep going |
| 18:48.53 | Saint-N | i mean ive dopne pug runs in kara that were insanely fun |
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| 18:49.02 | Lopeppeppy | It's not the raids that are notfun, it's the people, honestly. |
| 18:49.06 | End | ahhh |
| 18:49.16 | Saint-N | and guilded runs that were so horribly strict and whyiny it made me hearth |
| 18:49.16 | End | that makes a world of difference I think |
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| 18:49.31 | Lopeppeppy | "I didn't get a spot", "why don't I get to go", "why don't I get loot"... whiners. |
| 18:49.50 | End | we don't have many whiners thankfully :) |
| 18:49.57 | End | and the ones we have, take it to tells |
| 18:50.19 | Lopeppeppy | Ours take it to the forums. And sadly, it's the officers who are the whiners at this point. |
| 18:50.20 | foxlit | We had the opposite problem. People don't really want to do TK :P |
| 18:50.21 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: Come raid with me. :) I need rogues and you can be an indian instead of a chief. :P |
| 18:50.23 | Saint-N | i mean when you wipe the reaction should be "hahahah that was awesome" or "oops" not "holy fuck you guys pay attention" blah blah blah |
| 18:50.24 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:50.30 | End | oh, that's bad, Lopeppeppy |
| 18:51.05 | End | and yeah, incompetent morons are our only problem :-/ |
| 18:51.10 | Lopeppeppy | Sometimes we giggle at wipes, sometimes it's a "get your heads out of your butts, we know this fight".. a good mix. But when officers are all whiny about who gets vortexes in what order, and whether they get to attend every single raid or not... ugh. |
| 18:51.20 | End | they're great people, as people, but they just have no idea what they're doing :( |
| 18:51.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Our feral tank can pull a whopping 400TPS on Tidewalker. |
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| 18:51.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Our healers have been known to go for 5, 10 seconds without healing the tank. |
| 18:52.33 | Lopeppeppy | We've only taken Tidewalker a couple of times, I don't think our druids can stand up that long just yet. |
| 18:52.43 | Saint-N | "hey art we need you to swap outta shadow and offheal" "hey raidleader see the glow? i didnt practice gheal, if my ve isnt good enough perhaps you're confused as to what shadow priests do" ;) |
| 18:53.07 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 18:53.23 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm pretty sure that exactly two people in my guild know how threat actually works |
| 18:53.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Mostly because I'm whined at the second I hit 100% of the tank's threat |
| 18:53.38 | Saint-N | i have a macro thats /r Sorry no can do I glow black |
| 18:53.44 | Saint-N | heh |
| 18:53.54 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: You're further advanced than my lowly guild, but... you know, we'd take you. :) |
| 18:54.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Even the tanks don't know how threat works exactly :/ |
| 18:54.05 | Saint-N | actually i got really good at watching my threat |
| 18:54.21 | Saint-N | based mainly on mc runs and the game of "leggo my aggro" ;) |
| 18:54.38 | Lopeppeppy | Awww.... Lunessa, if I have to transfer servers because of the dipstick, I'll give you first dibs, how's that? |
| 18:54.47 | Lunessa | Deal. |
| 18:54.54 | Lopeppeppy | Um... where would I be going? *laugh* |
| 18:55.01 | Lunessa | Kirin Tor, Us. |
| 18:55.07 | malreth | you can raid with us, too... http://www.silverhandraiders.com/ |
| 18:55.21 | malreth | you can just switch servers every few months |
| 18:55.43 | End | I don't think you can raid with my guild, since I'm pretty sure you're a gnome :P |
| 18:55.47 | Lopeppeppy | I think I even have characters already on Kirin Tor. Neat. |
| 18:55.55 | ScytheBlade1 | http://asfjaskjlf.pastey.net/80232 <-- cookies to anyone who reads that in full. |
| 18:56.08 | Lunessa | You should hit me up for an invite. |
| 18:56.48 | End | ScytheBlade1: are there any periods in that last paragraph? |
| 18:56.53 | ScytheBlade1 | End: I doubt it |
| 18:56.55 | End | oh, I see one! |
| 18:56.58 | End | at the ver end |
| 18:56.59 | kd3 | ahaha, op. my router resets itself and I'm fighting a mob with 3k hp left, fireball's queued up to go off in a second. log back in and it's dead and I've still got >50% HP |
| 18:57.00 | End | very* |
| 18:57.01 | foxlit | 3 |
| 18:57.06 | foxlit | Safari = <3 |
| 18:57.07 | ScytheBlade1 | That's one up on his normal |
| 18:57.29 | foxlit | kd3: fire armor? |
| 18:57.33 | kd3 | probably |
| 18:57.41 | End | there's 3 periods in that last paragraph |
| 18:57.55 | ScytheBlade1 | wow |
| 18:58.12 | End | yea, I'm not reading that, but I can analyze it! |
| 18:58.27 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 18:59.39 | Saint-N | i read up to "2" |
| 19:00.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Seriously |
| 19:00.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Anyone who reads that... free points |
| 19:01.52 | ScytheBlade1 | He talks like that too |
| 19:01.54 | kd3 | egah. 20-slot bags still haven't come down in price. 400g |
| 19:02.53 | End | that's what my mage alt was for :P |
| 19:03.11 | End | took me a while, but it was cheap that way :P |
| 19:03.50 | End | when ZA came out, and I got the "free" 20 slot bag, all I could do was replace an 18 slot bag in my bag :P |
| 19:04.40 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah... I still don't know what to do with my soulbound "extra" 18. |
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| 19:05.15 | kd3 | meh, I had all 18s on me at 60. my bank's finally got all 18s now. still haven't run ZA to get the free 20 yet |
| 19:05.35 | End | my druid had all 18 slotters at 60, ..and he really needed it |
| 19:05.38 | Lopeppeppy | I did it on somone's cleared lockout. *blush* |
| 19:08.08 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter: ping, random question... how would you run two copies of WoW with wine? (same user account...) |
| 19:08.44 | kd3 | you could probably run them in two different virt desktops... I've never really tried |
| 19:09.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Whenever I pop up another wine app, it appears behind my WoW. |
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| 19:09.20 | ScytheBlade1 | ie, if I start winecfg, I can't access it until I close WoW |
| 19:11.13 | kd3 | I don't think it can be done. I've got 2 different wow instances running in different vdesktops and they both keep writing over each other's buffer |
| 19:11.35 | ScytheBlade1 | That makes it painful |
| 19:12.04 | kd3 | yes. epilepsy comes to mind just looking at this |
| 19:12.08 | kd3 | wineserver -k |
| 19:12.08 | kd3 | bah |
| 19:12.37 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 19:12.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Well my other option is a second user, and hardlink WoW into that user's home |
| 19:13.01 | ScytheBlade1 | su to the user and run wine there |
| 19:13.13 | kd3 | http://wowi.pastey.net/80235 |
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| 19:13.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Ohhh |
| 19:13.47 | kd3 | I <3 wine's virtual desktop trickery |
| 19:13.48 | ScytheBlade1 | I see |
| 19:13.55 | ScytheBlade1 | I didn't know of the /desktop switch |
| 19:14.05 | ScytheBlade1 | I thought you meant, say, KDE's "virtual desktops" |
| 19:14.08 | kd3 | nah |
| 19:14.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Hence the confusion |
| 19:14.22 | kd3 | I could probably try that too, but it'd most likely be the same result |
| 19:14.25 | ScytheBlade1 | What video card do you have? |
| 19:14.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah that really wouldn't matter |
| 19:14.30 | kd3 | 8600gt |
| 19:14.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Bah, I'd probably have less luck then |
| 19:15.13 | kd3 | wonder if I could do it in dx mode instead of opengl... |
| 19:15.13 | Saint-N | because you suck? |
| 19:15.22 | ScytheBlade1 | (7600GT, dual widescreen monitors) |
| 19:15.59 | kd3 | ya, d3d mode is even worse. no 3D rendering at all |
| 19:17.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Looking like a second computer then |
| 19:21.23 | kergoth | is there an event when the user changes whether a pet spell is autocasting? |
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| 19:32.34 | laindir | kergoth: if you have a mod to catch events, I'd try watching START_AUTOREPEAT_SPELL and STOP_AUTOREPEAT_SPELL, wowwiki doesn't have information on the arguments, but they're my best guess |
| 19:33.30 | kergoth | ah, sounds promising |
| 19:33.31 | kergoth | thanks |
| 19:33.32 | kergoth | :) |
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| 19:46.43 | Saint-N | neato, ordered a turky bacon cheese sammich and got a tuna melt |
| 19:47.03 | Saint-N | which oddly enough i was actually in the mood for instead |
| 19:47.43 | Lunessa | Remind me not to order from that place. 'cause like, I want them to make what I order not what they think my mood is.. |
| 19:48.06 | Saint-N | chances are i got someone elses order by mistake |
| 19:48.16 | Saint-N | which is a habit from this particular cosi |
| 19:48.21 | Lunessa | hah |
| 19:49.01 | Lunessa | I wonder if he's on IRC relating the story of getting the wrong/right sammich |
| 19:49.42 | malreth | WTF! I ordered a frakkin tuna melt!!! what is this shit?! |
| 19:49.51 | Saint-N | hahah |
| 19:50.37 | Thunder_Child | what exactly is a frakkin tuna melt? |
| 19:50.46 | malreth | take tuna |
| 19:50.49 | malreth | put it on bread |
| 19:50.51 | Thunder_Child | uh huh |
| 19:50.53 | malreth | add cheese |
| 19:50.55 | malreth | melt |
| 19:51.01 | malreth | add more bread |
| 19:51.11 | Thunder_Child | ok...but where does the frakkin come in? |
| 19:51.20 | malreth | ~wiki frak |
| 19:51.41 | Lunessa | Valgarcarb |
| 19:51.46 | malreth | it's like... |
| 19:51.50 | malreth | ~wiki frell |
| 19:51.57 | malreth | booo! |
| 19:51.58 | Thunder_Child | heh, frell |
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| 19:52.05 | Thunder_Child | farscape ftw |
| 19:52.13 | phetips | Hello |
| 19:52.14 | Lopeppeppy | Frell is for fun. *grin* |
| 19:52.39 | malreth | sorry... i only watch *real* sci-fi so it's "frak" for me |
| 19:52.49 | Lopeppeppy | Frell! Frak! Shizzle! |
| 19:53.06 | Thunder_Child | Battlestar Galactica sucks ass |
| 19:53.11 | Thunder_Child | well the new one anyway |
| 19:53.47 | malreth | NO U! |
| 19:55.58 | cogwheel | /agree malreth |
| 19:56.56 | Lunessa | 90210 in space with guns |
| 19:57.05 | Thunder_Child | heh |
| 19:57.08 | Thunder_Child | drama ftl |
| 19:57.36 | malreth | for me, it's the newtonian physics space battles |
| 19:57.51 | Lunessa | I mean, I really don't care who is schtupping whom. I want space ships, turbo lasers, and cyclons that look like felling cylons. |
| 19:58.05 | Esamynn|Work | lol |
| 19:58.12 | malreth | finally... not since B5 do i get to watch ships soaring around in space that don't look like they're flying in an atmosphere |
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| 19:58.56 | malreth | although, they still seem to have the "constant acceleration = constant velocity" thing with the engines always firing |
| 19:59.07 | malreth | but i guess you have to overcome space friction somehow |
| 19:59.14 | Esamynn|Work | heh |
| 20:00.00 | Lunessa | hardly anyone ever gets that right. And you don't "dodge" lightspped weapons. |
| 20:00.01 | malreth | but still... the battles with vipers slewing sideways and flipping in 6-degrees of freedom is a refreshing change |
| 20:00.59 | malreth | that and the atmospheric FTL jump in Exodus Pt. 2 was a total geekgasm |
| 20:01.31 | malreth | the only good thing to happen in that season, i suppose... |
| 20:02.12 | phetips | lol |
| 20:02.17 | phetips | when did i join #geektopia |
| 20:02.32 | Saint-N | the second you clicked "save" on an irc client |
| 20:02.35 | kd3 | when you typed "/join #wowi-lounge" |
| 20:02.37 | phetips | i use irssi =.= |
| 20:02.54 | Saint-N | oh then for you it was a much longer time ago |
| 20:03.02 | Lunessa | you're on the inter tubes. that makes it geektopia |
| 20:03.11 | phetips | don't get me wrong |
| 20:03.13 | Saint-N | im gonna bet it started with "no way the vic-20 had way more games than the commadore 64" |
| 20:03.15 | phetips | i'm a geek myself |
| 20:03.18 | malreth | ...said in a channel dedicated to addon developers for a video game |
| 20:03.29 | Esamynn|Work | nuf said |
| 20:03.46 | Saint-N | thunder doesnt hang out here to develop addons |
| 20:03.52 | Saint-N | he's here to provide boobs |
| 20:03.56 | phetips | i'm a coder/hacker looking to get into addon dev. |
| 20:04.03 | Thunder_Child | heh |
| 20:04.04 | phetips | yes calling yourself a hacker is cocky |
| 20:04.06 | phetips | idc |
| 20:04.12 | malreth | Lopeppeppy provides us with those, Saint-N |
| 20:04.24 | Saint-N | she actually signs off at night though |
| 20:04.32 | Saint-N | which is just wierd if you ask me |
| 20:04.35 | Lunessa | tc has moobs? |
| 20:04.47 | Saint-N | nerds come in 2 styles |
| 20:04.49 | Saint-N | uber thin |
| 20:04.59 | Saint-N | and pushing maximum density |
| 20:04.59 | phetips | sshd + screen ftw :) |
| 20:05.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Saint-N: I'm neither :( |
| 20:05.15 | Saint-N | you're fooling yourself then |
| 20:05.16 | malreth | same |
| 20:05.19 | Saint-N | tubby |
| 20:05.22 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 20:05.31 | phetips | > uptime 9:05PM up 49 days, 10:21, 5 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.05, 0.05 |
| 20:05.34 | Lunessa | malreth: you're not tubby. |
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| 20:05.51 | malreth | sorry... same as ScytheBlade1 |
| 20:05.58 | Saint-N | is malreth one of the 2 dimensional? |
| 20:06.10 | Esamynn|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:06.16 | malreth | and i'm marrying an asian gamer chick |
| 20:06.22 | phetips | so who in here actually writes addons? |
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| 20:06.38 | Saint-N | malreth: you married asia carrera? |
| 20:06.40 | malreth | phetips: i wrote like... one... maybe two |
| 20:06.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Almost every single person in the channel. |
| 20:06.49 | phetips | good |
| 20:06.51 | malreth | oh wait... no... three! |
| 20:07.03 | malreth | most of them even still work |
| 20:07.11 | ScytheBlade1 | I should update mine |
| 20:07.13 | ScytheBlade1 | ... for 2.2 |
| 20:07.13 | phetips | anyone interested in fuzzing for vulnerabilities in the provided API functions :)? |
| 20:07.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Interested? Always. But good luck with that. |
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| 20:07.37 | malreth | phetips: you should talk to Tem |
| 20:07.37 | Lunessa | No, I like getting to play Warry-C |
| 20:08.12 | phetips | ScytheBlade1: how's that? |
| 20:08.13 | Saint-N | you're fooling yourself we live in a dictatorship. i thought this was an autonomous collective, we take it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week... |
| 20:08.14 | phetips | malreth: oh yeah? |
| 20:08.50 | malreth | oh yeah! |
| 20:08.58 | Saint-N | oh no! |
| 20:09.11 | Saint-N | "wow that is really annoying from the other side of the wall" |
| 20:09.12 | malreth | i'm glad cogwheel is gone |
| 20:09.14 | malreth | oh snap! |
| 20:09.30 | Saint-N | cog hasd an xkcd devoted just to him |
| 20:09.34 | ScytheBlade1 | phetips: If your goal is to crash WoW, that's trivial. If your goal is to do things like arbitrarily make people trade you their gold, while I won't go as far as saying that's impossible, your chances of doing so are essentially zero |
| 20:09.48 | phetips | no more like |
| 20:09.54 | malreth | ScytheBlade1: isn't that what the /split command is for? |
| 20:09.57 | phetips | arbitrary code execution on a local host |
| 20:10.09 | phetips | different story |
| 20:10.12 | phetips | like, someone loading your addon |
| 20:10.14 | malreth | arbitrary code... |
| 20:10.17 | cogwheel | Saint-N: /chuckle |
| 20:10.22 | phetips | and getting pwned |
| 20:10.28 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, inter PIPES inter PIPES |
| 20:10.36 | Saint-N | tubes TC |
| 20:10.40 | Saint-N | intra tubes |
| 20:11.02 | Esamynn|Work | http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/interblag.png |
| 20:11.10 | ScytheBlade1 | phetips: we kinda follow a simple idea here... if you install it, you trust it. If you want to keylog people, or wipe their MBR, if they're installing your addon you can do that without touching WoW. |
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| 20:11.14 | Saint-N | its too bad there's so many balls on the intratubes |
| 20:11.18 | Saint-N | thats why its always clogged |
| 20:11.21 | Thunder_Child | pipes, you say you have a fat pipe, not a fat tube |
| 20:11.24 | phetips | ScytheBlade1: i feel pretty confident saying that there are more than 1 buffer overflow that could be triggered through the addon API's |
| 20:11.52 | Saint-N | tc, yeah but im not talking about the intranets when i talk about my "fat pipe" |
| 20:12.14 | Thunder_Child | thats because your not talking about a ral thing |
| 20:12.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Bold statememnt. Also not my area of expertise. That said, again, if you want to break things via addons, you're forgetting that people already installed your addon |
| 20:12.20 | Saint-N | nods |
| 20:12.21 | Thunder_Child | real* |
| 20:12.41 | Saint-N | and speaking of "pink velvet sausage wallet" is still the best name for the hoohoo |
| 20:12.52 | phetips | ScytheBlade1: that's not completely true. If I find a buffer overflow in a function provided by API |
| 20:12.57 | Thunder_Child | we were not speaking of tha |
| 20:12.58 | Thunder_Child | t |
| 20:13.03 | Thunder_Child | in any shape or form |
| 20:13.07 | phetips | and say, the WIM addon uses that function |
| 20:13.16 | Saint-N | sorry did i gross you out? should we go back to the cock you love so dear? |
| 20:13.20 | Lunessa | tc the size of my pipe has nothing to do with my tube. |
| 20:13.20 | Saint-N | ;) |
| 20:13.22 | phetips | to parse whisper data or something like that |
| 20:13.28 | phetips | i could remotely trigger that, in-game |
| 20:13.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Then you're passing your exploit code in 255 byte packets to a sandboxed enviroment |
| 20:13.35 | phetips | to execute arbitrary code on the target |
| 20:13.36 | ScytheBlade1 | That'd be a heck of an exploit |
| 20:13.40 | Esamynn|Work | phetips: I'd date that wager |
| 20:13.43 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, then your doing something wrong |
| 20:13.44 | Esamynn|Work | err |
| 20:13.47 | Esamynn|Work | s/date/take/ |
| 20:13.50 | phetips | ScytheBlade1: i love breaking out of sandboxes :) |
| 20:14.00 | ScytheBlade1 | It's been done before in WoW, I won't lie |
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| 20:14.26 | ScytheBlade1 | But (to my knowledge), a remotely exploitable hole in the API like the one you described has never been found |
| 20:14.27 | phetips | Esamynn|Work: you'd date that wager? |
| 20:14.34 | phetips | ScytheBlade1: well |
| 20:14.37 | Esamynn|Work | I correctd myself, but purl is being slow |
| 20:14.37 | phetips | i take that as a challenge |
| 20:14.40 | Esamynn|Work | corrected* |
| 20:15.05 | phetips | oic |
| 20:15.21 | kd3 | the only hole in the sandbox I'm aware of is playing mp3s from a shoutcast stream |
| 20:15.22 | phetips | i have exploited "unexploitable" vulnerabilities before |
| 20:15.24 | kd3 | did they ever close that? |
| 20:15.33 | malreth | purl won't correct it because you said "err" before the correction |
| 20:15.39 | Esamynn|Work | ahh yes |
| 20:15.42 | Esamynn|Work | good point |
| 20:15.43 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: that's the one I'm talking of.. and I thought they did |
| 20:15.44 | phetips | takes some creativity, but that's just how i like it |
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| 20:15.57 | sag_ich_nicht | could someone please file a bugreport for me on the Bugs forum? |
| 20:16.00 | sag_ich_nicht | fear moves you with normal run speed instead of swimspeed under water. that breaks underwater pvp mechanics. |
| 20:16.16 | Esamynn|Work | HAHA |
| 20:16.23 | kd3 | got it, one sec |
| 20:16.35 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl |
| 20:16.37 | sag_ich_nicht | this is probably a long standing bug |
| 20:16.42 | sag_ich_nicht | probably since FOREVER |
| 20:16.43 | ScytheBlade1 | I wish they would bring back sheep not breathing underwater |
| 20:16.50 | ScytheBlade1 | That was incredible |
| 20:17.01 | Esamynn|Work | O_o |
| 20:17.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Hey look! A hordie hiding underwater! |
| 20:17.28 | ScytheBlade1 | *poly* |
| 20:17.29 | ScytheBlade1 | *death* |
| 20:17.42 | Lopeppeppy | Interesting.... |
| 20:17.44 | Intangir | what do you mean |
| 20:17.44 | Esamynn|Work | lol |
| 20:17.49 | Intangir | oh... sheeping ;) |
| 20:18.01 | Esamynn|Work | wouldn't the dmg break the sheep before they drowned? |
| 20:18.26 | ScytheBlade1 | This was back when sheep was 45s on players |
| 20:18.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Sheep them underwater, keep them sheeped |
| 20:18.40 | Esamynn|Work | ahh |
| 20:20.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Bah, I was too slow in making a comment about the "forums 'going down'" |
| 20:20.08 | ScytheBlade1 | "easily" |
| 20:20.16 | kd3 | ScytheBlade1, ahahaha |
| 20:20.19 | phetips | hehe |
| 20:20.24 | kd3 | that's going to be horrible if they actually pull that stunt |
| 20:20.36 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: chances are... somewhat decent! |
| 20:21.09 | phetips | have any of the wow realms actually been hacked? |
| 20:21.11 | phetips | i mean the servers |
| 20:21.22 | Esamynn|Work | not to my knowledge |
| 20:21.29 | ScytheBlade1 | The closest that has happened was a logic bug in the servers, related to arena teams |
| 20:21.30 | phetips | that'd be pretty phat loot to those gold sellers |
| 20:21.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Which simply caused them to crash and instantly be rebooted |
| 20:21.44 | phetips | i see |
| 20:21.53 | phetips | but yeah that's in-game |
| 20:21.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup. |
| 20:22.00 | phetips | are they running on *nix? |
| 20:22.06 | ScytheBlade1 | That's the closest that I know of. |
| 20:22.10 | ScytheBlade1 | To our knowledge, yes |
| 20:22.11 | malreth | they're running on Jesus Boxes |
| 20:22.16 | malreth | they run Jesus OS |
| 20:22.16 | ScytheBlade1 | With Oracle RAC behind them |
| 20:22.20 | kd3 | sag_ich_nicht, http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3773282902&postId=37728945410&sid=1#0 |
| 20:22.23 | malreth | and if you try to hack them, you go to Hell |
| 20:23.10 | Esamynn|Work | ... |
| 20:23.13 | sag_ich_nicht | kd3: thanks |
| 20:23.23 | Esamynn|Work | ~cheeseslap malreth |
| 20:23.24 | purl | ACTION slaps malreth around with a piece of swiss |
| 20:24.23 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr? |
| 20:25.19 | Saint-N | jesus was a prophet not an oracle |
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| 20:26.03 | Saint-N | and all i wanna do its ding-a-ding-dong-my-dang-along-a-ling-long |
| 20:26.19 | phetips | i'd love to give those tables a firm n sexy distributed rainbowtable crack :) |
| 20:26.24 | Esamynn|Work | ~lart Saint-N |
| 20:26.24 | purl | pours gasoline all over Saint-N, ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze |
| 20:26.29 | Saint-N | esa |
| 20:26.33 | Saint-N | ~lart3mis |
| 20:26.33 | purl | ACTION smacks art3mis upside the head just cuz |
| 20:26.49 | Esamynn|Work | haha |
| 20:26.54 | Saint-N | i have my own action ;P |
| 20:27.01 | malreth | phetips: better get crackin... let us know what you find out |
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| 20:28.01 | Saint-N | zen should go reg albi.no |
| 20:28.26 | phetips | malreth: hehe i don't actually have the tables yet ;) |
| 20:28.40 | phetips | i was talking about the oracle DB connected to the WOW realms |
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| 20:28.51 | phetips | ScytheBlade1 mentioned them |
| 20:28.54 | malreth | yeah... have fun and let us know when you're done |
| 20:28.58 | kd3 | wtf @ /. |
| 20:29.06 | kd3 | "832 GB flash drive" |
| 20:29.09 | phetips | lol |
| 20:29.20 | Esamynn|Work | phetips: we don't actually know for sure what DB system is behind wow (at least not to my knowledge) |
| 20:29.36 | kd3 | though they've advertised oracle at blizzard.com/jobopps |
| 20:29.44 | ScytheBlade1 | They've advertised a LOT of Oracle |
| 20:29.45 | phetips | allright well i'm gonna do some sniffing |
| 20:29.48 | Esamynn|Work | have they? |
| 20:30.00 | Esamynn|Work | well, I guess it's probably the one then ;) |
| 20:30.06 | ScytheBlade1 | phetips: I would say good luck, but I can only put so much emphasis behind that |
| 20:30.41 | [Liquidor] | Hahaha watch this sane Experiment: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=qAjJ8u1dpUo |
| 20:30.46 | Lunessa | I think he'll let us know when all his WoW accounts go poof. |
| 20:30.54 | ScytheBlade1 | I can see that happening, yeah |
| 20:30.56 | Esamynn|Work | phetips: are you doing this with the intention of reporting any holes you find? |
| 20:31.06 | phetips | i understand that mate :), but i'm not just some random player who's decided to "hack wow" |
| 20:31.15 | phetips | Lunessa: my account will be left out of it |
| 20:31.26 | malreth | less talk, more hack |
| 20:31.32 | phetips | i agree |
| 20:31.33 | ScytheBlade1 | phetips: no offense, but none of the other thousands who have invariably tried are "some random player who decided to 'hack wow'" either |
| 20:31.57 | Saint-N | http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/18/simpletech-announces-512gb-and-256gb-3-5-inch-ssd-drives/ |
| 20:31.59 | Lunessa | I am phetips and this is my NIGHT ELF MOHAWK! |
| 20:32.06 | ScytheBlade1 | ... buhahahahahaha |
| 20:32.17 | phetips | i never claimed i am going to pull it off, i said i'm convinced that it's doable and that i'm giving it a try |
| 20:32.38 | phetips | night elf mohawk? |
| 20:32.56 | Saint-N | just remember at your trial mention this chatroom and lunessa and scytheblade1 by name ;P |
| 20:33.12 | kd3 | TV commercial with Mr. T. it's airing all over the place. saw it last night when I was eating out with my parents |
| 20:33.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Saint-N: die |
| 20:33.37 | Lunessa | My Mr. T hacked the game and created a mohawk class. |
| 20:33.41 | Saint-N | die die die my darling, dont utter a single word |
| 20:34.00 | ScytheBlade1 | What I would give for the ability to +q you about now. That'd be *perfect.* |
| 20:34.13 | Saint-N | kd3: i missed the "with" when i skimmed yer message |
| 20:34.24 | kd3 | joy! the first ep of season3 of one of my favorite anime series just showed up on share. /maxes out his pipe |
| 20:34.35 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: all 4kB/sec of it? :) |
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| 20:34.51 | Saint-N | what series? |
| 20:34.52 | kd3 | nah. about 3MB/s atm |
| 20:34.58 | kd3 | ARIA |
| 20:34.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, suddenly I hate you |
| 20:35.16 | ScytheBlade1 | But apparently I hate a lot of people in this channel, so, I guess that's the norm? |
| 20:35.33 | Saint-N | you dont hate me |
| 20:35.36 | Saint-N | you love me! |
| 20:35.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Saint-N: die |
| 20:35.40 | Saint-N | everyone loves me! |
| 20:35.41 | phetips | kd3: you seen .hack sign? |
| 20:35.42 | Lunessa | Aww, you hate me. |
| 20:36.07 | kd3 | I only liked the music. the plot was. "ooh. something happened. let's talk about it for 3 eps before something else happens and we can talk about it for another 3 eps" |
| 20:36.20 | malreth | kd3: so true! |
| 20:36.27 | Saint-N | kd3: so its a perfect mimicry of a mmo? |
| 20:36.32 | kd3 | more or less |
| 20:36.41 | malreth | no! |
| 20:36.46 | malreth | you are denied tickle fun |
| 20:36.47 | Cairenn | :) |
| 20:36.59 | kamdis | I like the Verne Troyer WoW commercial much more than the Mr. T one. (Sorry, I'm behind in chat.) |
| 20:37.08 | Saint-N | hehe yeah |
| 20:37.15 | ScytheBlade1 | kamdis: gnome mages FTW |
| 20:37.18 | Saint-N | only because he looks EXACTLY like his mage |
| 20:37.22 | Esamynn|Work | haha |
| 20:37.24 | kamdis | Exactly! |
| 20:37.27 | Cairenn | the Mr T one is the best! Verne is second - the shanter one is just bleh |
| 20:37.29 | kd3 | kamdis, so do I, to be honest, but I've rarely seen it on TV |
| 20:37.35 | Saint-N | cept i bet his mage is taller ;) |
| 20:37.39 | ScytheBlade1 | I actually really liked the Shatner one |
| 20:37.43 | kamdis | kd3, I've seen it a lot lately |
| 20:37.44 | kd3 | it's been mainly Mr. T. saw the toyota ad earlier that night |
| 20:37.50 | kamdis | maybe you watch the "wrong" shows |
| 20:37.51 | Lopeppeppy | .... fool! |
| 20:37.55 | kamdis | Oh yeah, that |
| 20:37.57 | zenzelezz | I found the Van Damme witty |
| 20:38.01 | Saint-N | shatners would have been funnier if he said frostshock more ;P |
| 20:38.03 | Esamynn|Work | heh |
| 20:38.04 | kamdis | is it me or was that Onyxia in Azshara? |
| 20:38.08 | kd3 | ya |
| 20:38.09 | Esamynn|Work | no |
| 20:38.13 | kd3 | and she was non-elite too |
| 20:38.14 | sag_ich_nicht | so |
| 20:38.20 | Esamynn|Work | it was Azuregos |
| 20:38.22 | sag_ich_nicht | why hasn't Cairenn kickbanned phetips yet? |
| 20:38.23 | kamdis | Well it wasn't Azuregos |
| 20:38.28 | kamdis | because it wasn't blue |
| 20:38.29 | kd3 | azuregos was black? |
| 20:38.30 | Esamynn|Work | yes it was, it was a blue dragon |
| 20:38.35 | Esamynn|Work | look again |
| 20:38.42 | kamdis | Huh, not on my screen |
| 20:38.44 | Cairenn | sag_ich_nicht: I wasn't aware that I needed to |
| 20:38.52 | Saint-N | kd3: yeah protests about inequality hit azeroth about 4 yewars ago |
| 20:38.52 | phetips | sag_ich_nicht: ehm, is there a problem? |
| 20:39.01 | Saint-N | all thee nagas up in a tizzy |
| 20:39.39 | malreth | go to sleep... we'll be at grandma's soon |
| 20:39.43 | Saint-N | people people we are the same, no we're not the same cuz we dont know the game. |
| 20:40.24 | Saint-N | oh my and wifey watched american gladiators last night |
| 20:40.41 | malreth | you're married to an amateur porn star? |
| 20:40.41 | Saint-N | at the start she was like man this is going to be horrible rolling her eyes that we HAD to watch it |
| 20:41.06 | Saint-N | half way through shes screaming at the tv for the one guy being a jerk |
| 20:41.18 | Saint-N | HE CHEATED!!! WHAT THE HELL! |
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| 20:41.57 | Saint-N | mal: technically yes |
| 20:42.11 | malreth | awesome |
| 20:42.31 | Thunder_Child | i bet the star part is up for discussion |
| 20:42.48 | Saint-N | well she is the feature of the movie so.... |
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| 20:43.14 | zenzelezz | they only call it "star" because there's not enough acting to call them "actors" |
| 20:43.34 | Thunder_Child | it's all acting on the womans side |
| 20:43.50 | Saint-N | yer mom acts pretty good |
| 20:43.50 | malreth | hey... it's a lot of work to keep saying "aah" "aah" and "ooh" and "yeaaaaaaaaahh!" |
| 20:43.54 | zenzelezz | not the proper kind of acting |
| 20:44.05 | kd3 | Esamynn|Work, http://spyglass-server.com/pub/Screenshot-4.jpg |
| 20:44.05 | Saint-N | and NOT scream out "owww my cervix!" |
| 20:44.12 | kd3 | sure doesn't look blue to me |
| 20:44.20 | malreth | who was it that was talking about #geektopia? |
| 20:44.28 | Thunder_Child | you |
| 20:44.29 | phetips | malreth: hi |
| 20:44.35 | malreth | oh yeah! |
| 20:45.35 | kamdis | lol: http://toolmonger.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/Aussie%20Construction%20Sign.jpg |
| 20:46.00 | Esamynn|Work | kd3: ahh, I was thinking something else, nm |
| 20:46.23 | kd3 | I can't think of any commercials with azuregos in it |
| 20:46.29 | phetips | [random self promotion] http://milw0rm.com/papers/94 [/random self promotion] |
| 20:47.01 | Esamynn|Work | kd3: I don't know what I was thinking of, so just forget it :P |
| 20:47.09 | malreth | phetips: do you live in California? |
| 20:47.14 | phetips | malreth: nope |
| 20:47.28 | phetips | malreth: why? |
| 20:47.33 | malreth | hmm... had you all pegged out as a Californian |
| 20:47.38 | malreth | oh well |
| 20:47.39 | Saint-N | wow thats a name i ahvent heard in a long time |
| 20:47.52 | Saint-N | Aleph 1 |
| 20:47.58 | phetips | :) |
| 20:48.22 | Saint-N | wonder if hes still at secfoc |
| 20:48.24 | Lunessa | kamdis I worry about anything called an "explosive powered tool" |
| 20:48.28 | malreth | what is an eax? is that a new macro conditional? |
| 20:48.36 | phetips | hehe |
| 20:48.56 | malreth | also... none of that stuff will work... pretty sure it'll cause taint |
| 20:49.06 | phetips | ehm |
| 20:49.13 | phetips | malreth: you're talking about that paper? |
| 20:49.37 | phetips | oh you're talking to lunessa |
| 20:49.39 | malreth | and you can't use perl... too ugly and inelegant |
| 20:49.54 | phetips | haha |
| 20:49.58 | phetips | right |
| 20:50.18 | phetips | it's just a PoC |
| 20:50.23 | phetips | and it does work |
| 20:50.35 | malreth | yeah... but what relevance does it have for me? |
| 20:50.48 | phetips | nothing, that's why i marked it as |
| 20:50.51 | phetips | random self promotion |
| 20:51.01 | malreth | then why did you tell me about it? |
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| 20:51.22 | phetips | i wasn't targetting you specifically |
| 20:51.44 | malreth | well now you're just not making any sense |
| 20:52.17 | phetips | how's that |
| 20:52.19 | kamdis | Lunessa, you and me both |
| 20:54.25 | Saint-N | http://www.illwillpress.com/hammer22.html |
| 20:57.17 | Saint-N | i <3 foamy |
| 20:58.35 | malreth | http://www.mikeash.com/?page=pyblog/the-cults-of-programming.html |
| 20:58.44 | Shirik|AFK | malreth: eax is an IA32 extended register |
| 20:58.53 | malreth | Shirik... |
| 20:58.54 | malreth | ~malreth |
| 20:58.55 | purl | never take malreth seriously |
| 20:58.59 | Shirik | =( |
| 20:59.12 | malreth | it's ok |
| 20:59.14 | Shirik | I'm sick leave me alone >< |
| 20:59.36 | Shirik | anything hot I can't eat right now, has to be cold |
| 20:59.39 | Shirik | milkshakes are good though |
| 21:00.33 | Shirik | yeah I don't drink >< |
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| 21:01.17 | Shirik | you're not going to get very far hun |
| 21:01.23 | Shirik | but thanks for trying |
| 21:01.29 | malreth | -hic- |
| 21:01.44 | phetips | Shirik: you into x86 assembly? |
| 21:01.44 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik malreth was just looking for an excuse to get drunk anyway |
| 21:01.50 | Shirik | most likely |
| 21:02.02 | kd3 | we need excuses to get drunk? |
| 21:02.03 | Shirik | phetips: I don't do much x86 but I can get my way around. I do a lot more motorola and atmega assembly |
| 21:02.10 | phetips | cool |
| 21:02.38 | Saint-N | shirik makes dishnet autorollers ;P |
| 21:02.41 | malreth | weres Jelly so i can hit on him shome more and make him think that i don't know he'sh not a girl... |
| 21:02.57 | Saint-N | mal: you can do that to alestane too ;P |
| 21:03.06 | Shirik | and kimina |
| 21:03.13 | Kimina | there you go |
| 21:03.15 | malreth | Saint-N: who she? |
| 21:03.33 | malreth | hey... you're lookin pretty nice there |
| 21:03.47 | Saint-N | kimina: nice shoes......... |
| 21:04.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Saint-N: the periods go before the word "shoes" not after |
| 21:04.23 | Saint-N | nah the whole thing is nice shoes.......wanna fuck? |
| 21:04.33 | kd3 | ding ding ding, we have a winner |
| 21:04.55 | Saint-N | i was attempting to keep it clean before under the assumption that people would get the nice shoes reference |
| 21:05.18 | Saint-N | but noooOOOOOOoooo |
| 21:05.21 | kamdis | malreth :-( |
| 21:05.28 | kamdis | My Jelly |
| 21:05.30 | kamdis | mine |
| 21:05.54 | malreth | you can have him... he's crazy anyways |
| 21:05.57 | Saint-N | just pray he's contraceptive Jelly ;P |
| 21:06.00 | kamdis | ayup |
| 21:06.06 | Saint-N | don't need more |
| 21:06.07 | kamdis | lol Saint-N |
| 21:07.30 | malreth | http://birdhouse.org/blog/2008/01/03/laptop-with-leopard/ |
| 21:07.36 | Saint-N | welp im bored of being here to today.... bi bi |
| 21:07.42 | malreth | i want a mousepad named Ziggy |
| 21:08.13 | malreth | it also has the ever-useful pickle key |
| 21:08.31 | malreth | and three keys for lowercase i |
| 21:08.38 | malreth | just in case one breaks |
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| 21:16.04 | Intangir | hey guys |
| 21:16.18 | malreth | sexist |
| 21:16.20 | Intangir | i need an addon or macro to only tab target players |
| 21:16.28 | Intangir | NOT pets, or .. snake trap snakes |
| 21:16.29 | Intangir | or minions |
| 21:16.31 | Intangir | or totems.. |
| 21:16.34 | malreth | can't be done |
| 21:16.34 | kamdis | I don't think that's possible |
| 21:16.39 | Intangir | it should be |
| 21:16.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, can't be done |
| 21:16.54 | Intangir | isnt there a way to test what you have tab targetted to make sure its a player? |
| 21:17.04 | ScytheBlade1 | .. then you've already targeted it |
| 21:17.11 | malreth | s/done/done, sexist/ |
| 21:17.15 | zenzelezz | you can test, but not re/de-target programatically |
| 21:17.19 | Intangir | well as long as it changes it again right away without another tab |
| 21:17.32 | malreth | targeting functions are protected |
| 21:17.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Can't be done |
| 21:17.43 | Intangir | not even from a macro? |
| 21:17.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Especially from a macro, lol |
| 21:17.54 | Intangir | damn it |
| 21:17.55 | malreth | protected... can't be called from non-blizzard code |
| 21:17.56 | Intangir | thats retarded |
| 21:17.59 | ScytheBlade1 | You'd have more luck with the API and that's all protected |
| 21:18.02 | [Liquidor] | Imo, just L2PvP and it wont be needed. |
| 21:18.09 | zenzelezz | you can target from a macro, but not test. You can test from a script, but not macro |
| 21:18.17 | Intangir | i know how to pvp, and its needed |
| 21:18.35 | kamdis | Someone's been facing the GD snake trap? |
| 21:18.39 | malreth | Intangir: be happy knowing that your enemies are equally restricted... sexist |
| 21:18.40 | kamdis | lol |
| 21:18.59 | Intangir | malreth: sorry i forgot to mention transgenders ;) |
| 21:19.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Whenever I step on a snake trap, all of the snakes instantly die. *shrug* |
| 21:20.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Molten Armor ftw? |
| 21:20.07 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: different winepath's |
| 21:20.13 | phetips | Intangir: just try to /who the target |
| 21:20.21 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter: ? |
| 21:20.30 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter: okay let's make this easy, lol... any docs to read? |
| 21:20.50 | phetips | pets, totems etc can't be who'd |
| 21:21.08 | kd3 | ah, didn't even think about that. you could probably run two different instances of wine, say system-wide and git-local |
| 21:21.17 | bleeter | kd3: yes |
| 21:21.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh |
| 21:21.33 | kd3 | though I dunno if that'd still run into the buffer overwriting problem I ran into using the same wineserver for 2 copies of wow... |
| 21:21.36 | bleeter | vendor supplied, wine release, and wine git |
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| 21:21.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Or in my case, two copies of wine git |
| 21:21.51 | bleeter | though personally I wouldn't want to try |
| 21:22.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Why not? Performance issues? |
| 21:22.26 | Intangir | whats up with wine now? |
| 21:22.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Intangir: nothing that needs fixing, I want to run two copies of WoW side by side with wine |
| 21:23.05 | Intangir | you cant do it without having two wines? i thought i did it before |
| 21:23.08 | Intangir | but it was just slow as hell |
| 21:23.33 | Industrial | whats the xml tag again to load another xml file? theres Script for lua but .. |
| 21:23.35 | kd3 | I tried it earlier today. it worked when the two different instances were fighting for the vid buffer |
| 21:23.43 | kd3 | s/were/weren't/ |
| 21:23.58 | malreth | Industrial: Include... i think |
| 21:24.04 | malreth | off the top of my head |
| 21:24.04 | Industrial | k |
| 21:24.14 | Industrial | its not in http://www.wowwiki.com/XML_User_Interface |
| 21:24.14 | malreth | lemme check wowwiki.com for you |
| 21:24.18 | Industrial | ;) |
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| 21:24.49 | Industrial | seems you are right (did a search) |
| 21:24.56 | malreth | haha! |
| 21:24.58 | malreth | ~malreth |
| 21:24.59 | purl | never take malreth seriously |
| 21:25.01 | malreth | doh! |
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| 21:26.09 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: on the docs for wine thing... hahaha... ha... man their stuff is pretty bad ;) |
| 21:26.32 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter: :( |
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| 21:26.43 | Intangir | whats a good audio recording app for recording wow |
| 21:26.51 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter: if you've got any one-liners for me, have at it. I've gotta afk for the next hour or so though. |
| 21:26.54 | ScytheBlade1 | But thanks for the info |
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| 21:27.08 | Shirik | Intangir: fraps does pretty well :) |
| 21:27.11 | Shirik | course it does more than that |
| 21:27.17 | Intangir | i mean on linux |
| 21:27.26 | Shirik | I haven't had issues with fraps in Linux tbh |
| 21:27.28 | malreth | i'd recommend AudioHijack for Mac OS X |
| 21:27.42 | Intangir | Shirik: you got fraps working on linux? |
| 21:27.42 | malreth | but that'd be useless for you |
| 21:27.50 | Shirik | yah |
| 21:27.56 | Intangir | in wine? |
| 21:27.59 | Shirik | yes |
| 21:27.59 | Polarina | Intangir: You meant GNU/Linux. |
| 21:28.11 | Intangir | Shirik: thats awesome |
| 21:28.34 | wereHamster | Intangir, yukon can record audio :) |
| 21:28.35 | Shirik | cringe at what? |
| 21:28.41 | Intangir | wereHamster: it can? |
| 21:28.45 | Intangir | is this new? |
| 21:28.52 | bleeter | Intangir: http://ardour.org/ |
| 21:29.02 | bleeter | overkill, sure... ;) |
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| 21:29.17 | wereHamster | not really new, it's in the branch |
| 21:29.26 | Intangir | which branch? |
| 21:29.29 | wereHamster | been there for like a year now |
| 21:29.37 | Shirik | bleeter: That thing hurts my eyes |
| 21:29.37 | wereHamster | the only branch ;) |
| 21:29.41 | Intangir | does it put it into the same seom thing? |
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| 21:29.48 | batrick | ur |
| 21:30.04 | bleeter | Shirik: in what way? |
| 21:30.05 | cncfanatics | yo all |
| 21:30.06 | Lunessa | rawr green poster flood |
| 21:30.12 | Shirik | it's all like "information overload" |
| 21:30.19 | cncfanatics | I feel soo good, just threw windows to the trashcan, again |
| 21:30.34 | Intangir | cncfanatics: grats |
| 21:30.34 | wereHamster | Intangir, you need the seom branch and the yukon branch |
| 21:30.41 | bleeter | Shirik: I've been involved in digital audio production since around the time of the release of the Fairlight CMI... that thing looks fairly standard to me ;) |
| 21:30.55 | Shirik | I used Sony ACID for a while |
| 21:31.00 | Shirik | Eventually I got used to that |
| 21:31.05 | Shirik | but this thing seems like so much more |
| 21:31.07 | bleeter | (which is a polite way to say 'That's pretty standard, nub' :P |
| 21:31.17 | Intangir | ugg.. i am still a bit fuzzy with svn, so its not in the trunk? but in a branch? or do you mean the main branch as in the trunk? hehe |
| 21:31.40 | Industrial | acid pro |
| 21:31.42 | Industrial | woahflashback |
| 21:31.43 | Industrial | :P |
| 21:31.53 | Shirik | normally you'll have an address like svn://address/repo/trunk |
| 21:32.02 | Shirik | instead you'll want svn://address/repo/branches/somebranch |
| 21:32.10 | Industrial | there was also this thingy with pictures that represented loops and you could link htem, it was fun playing with that |
| 21:32.18 | Industrial | forgot the name :( |
| 21:32.56 | Intangir | the only digital audio thing ive used to MAKE audio was fasttracker2 |
| 21:33.02 | Polarina | cladhaire: The updated version is ready. Would you like me to send it to you so you can check over it before I release it? |
| 21:33.16 | bleeter | about the only reason I'd use Win32 or OSX these days is for Ableton Live |
| 21:33.16 | Intangir | it made mods |
| 21:33.17 | wereHamster | Intangir, svn://dbservice.com/big/svn/yukon/branches/rewrite svn://dbservice.com/big/svn/seom/branches/packetized-stream |
| 21:33.26 | bleeter | 'coz that thing is serious roxoring |
| 21:33.27 | cladhaire | as long as you're not using a hash that increases the chance of collisions or false positives, then Im' okay with it :P |
| 21:33.34 | Polarina | cladhaire: Nope. |
| 21:33.47 | Polarina | cladhaire: I'll zip it and send it you for verification. :) |
| 21:33.53 | cladhaire | if you must |
| 21:33.54 | Lunessa | "Teaching n00bs to fish since 2005" ~ Cogwheel for President. |
| 21:34.12 | wereHamster | Intangir, /j #yukon ;) |
| 21:34.15 | Intangir | wereHamster: what happened to the neopsis site. it seems gone |
| 21:34.30 | wereHamster | s/neopsis/dbservice/ |
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| 21:34.58 | haste | wereHamster: how does yukon performe compared to GLC? |
| 21:35.07 | wereHamster | glc? |
| 21:35.17 | haste | http://nullkey.ath.cx/projects/glc/ |
| 21:36.23 | wereHamster | haste, based on yukin, but uses different technique to hook the functions and caupture sound |
| 21:36.47 | haste | that's about what I know |
| 21:37.36 | cncfanatics | does beryl work decently these days on debian ? thinking about trying it |
| 21:38.06 | haste | compiz works decent regardless of distro |
| 21:38.21 | cladhaire | Polarina: looks good to me. |
| 21:38.27 | cladhaire | and i can't believe the DCC worked |
| 21:38.28 | cladhaire | lol |
| 21:39.02 | cncfanatics | beryl = compyz these days haste ? |
| 21:39.09 | cncfanatics | heard some vague stuff about merges & stuff |
| 21:39.18 | haste | I thought beryl was just plugins to compiz now (in the form of compiz-fusion) |
| 21:39.19 | Polarina | cladhaire: Does it works in-game? |
| 21:39.28 | cladhaire | i havent tested |
| 21:39.30 | cladhaire | i assumed you did |
| 21:39.50 | cladhaire | i'm not in wow at the moment |
| 21:40.11 | batrick | polarina did u end up using the rot13 |
| 21:40.12 | Polarina | cladhaire: The changes required were too trivial for me to bother to test. I don't think it should break. |
| 21:40.17 | Polarina | batrick: Yes. |
| 21:40.32 | cladhaire | well i assumed you use your own addon :P |
| 21:40.33 | batrick | lookup table!? i must know |
| 21:40.44 | bleeter | bah, why do blizz email me from an address that 550's (no such user) |
| 21:40.56 | Polarina | cladhaire: I just did the change right now. |
| 21:41.01 | cncfanatics | how does WoW work in compiz/beryl, haste ? |
| 21:41.12 | cladhaire | lol ok |
| 21:41.13 | cladhaire | ] |
| 21:41.15 | haste | cncfanatics: no idea, I run wmii as a WM :p |
| 21:41.19 | cncfanatics | :p |
| 21:41.26 | cncfanatics | can't hurt trying I supose |
| 21:41.37 | haste | cncfanatics: it worked fine when I tested it ages ago |
| 21:41.44 | bleeter | there's a bunch of videos on youtube showing how well it works ;) |
| 21:41.59 | haste | cncfanatics: around when they fixed the whole "X dies when you start games"-issue |
| 21:43.23 | bleeter | and on a side note, it's good to see Blizz Accounts still getting hit with the lart stick due to the game audio's attenuation distortion on the phone lines |
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| 21:44.36 | bleeter | prolly some beancounter somewhere saving a buck... 'we're not a radio station, therefore we don't need that preset in our phone system' |
| 21:44.39 | bleeter | gnight clad|sleep |
| 21:44.45 | clad|sleep | night all |
| 21:47.16 | batrick | bleeter: attenutation doesn't cause distortion? |
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| 21:48.23 | Shirik | !ar 300 |
| 21:48.24 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Arena rating from 300 points is, 2v2: 1545, 3v3: 1487, 5v5: 1302 |
| 21:48.39 | sag_ich_nicht | quick, how much RAP is 1 agi for a hunter? |
| 21:48.51 | sag_ich_nicht | and how much crit |
| 21:50.00 | sag_ich_nicht | nvm found it |
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| 21:50.45 | Polarina | clad|sleep: It works in-game at least. |
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| 21:50.59 | clad|sleep | yay |
| 21:51.04 | cncfanatics | I'm kinda not seeing any differences between compyz & not compyz :o |
| 21:51.16 | Industrial | lua> |
| 21:51.20 | Industrial | lua> print('foo') |
| 21:51.21 | lua_bot | Industrial: foo |
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| 21:51.47 | Industrial | lua> a={} print(tostring(table.insert(a, 'foo'))) |
| 21:51.47 | lua_bot | Industrial: [string "a={} print(tostring(table.insert(a, 'foo'))..."]:1: bad argument #1 to 'tostring' (value expected) |
| 21:51.55 | Industrial | righto |
| 21:52.43 | bleeter | batrick: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attenuation_distortion |
| 21:53.01 | Industrial | hmm, frame recycling - is it worth it? |
| 21:53.08 | clad|sleep | Industrial: not really |
| 21:53.08 | Industrial | any examples? |
| 21:53.14 | Industrial | thought so |
| 21:53.18 | clad|sleep | unless you're doing something like making graphs |
| 21:53.22 | Industrial | nah |
| 21:53.38 | Shirik | lol |
| 21:53.46 | Shirik | <3 getting in arenas against people from my own guild |
| 21:54.02 | clad|sleep | haha |
| 21:54.29 | Shirik | they got annihilated too |
| 21:54.31 | Shirik | like 30 seconds |
| 21:54.39 | clad|sleep | what makeup are you, versus what? |
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| 21:55.04 | Shirik | HAHAHA we got them again |
| 21:55.16 | Shirik | disc priest, ele shammy, bm hunter |
| 21:55.17 | bleeter | Shirik: u r 2 leet |
| 21:55.38 | bleeter | NERF ALL SHIRIKS! R 2 OP! |
| 21:55.49 | clad|sleep | WORD |
| 21:56.01 | bleeter | while yer at it |
| 21:56.10 | bleeter | NERF ALL CLADS... 2 OP AND TALK IN SLEEP! |
| 21:56.13 | bleeter | :P |
| 21:56.33 | Shirik | clad addons are op |
| 21:56.37 | clad|sleep | word |
| 21:56.37 | clad|sleep | oh |
| 21:56.41 | clad|sleep | so i'm a nub druid apparently |
| 21:56.43 | Shirik | back in my day we had to discover quests |
| 21:56.46 | clad|sleep | this mage was asking for a soulstone |
| 21:56.48 | bleeter | clad|sleep: proof? |
| 21:56.49 | clad|sleep | the warlock ignored him naturally |
| 21:56.55 | cogwheel | clad|sleep: you got my note re: lua511wow? |
| 21:56.57 | clad|sleep | cause we did deadmines with two warlocks, two mages, and me druid healing. |
| 21:56.59 | clad|sleep | cogwheel: yes, thanks. |
| 21:57.13 | clad|sleep | one of the two mages ran BACK to get the patrol, whiel the rest of the party went forward |
| 21:57.20 | clad|sleep | i can't be in two places at once, mage died |
| 21:57.21 | clad|sleep | like they do |
| 21:57.26 | clad|sleep | he asks for a res |
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| 21:57.41 | batrick | clearly u need to l2heal |
| 21:57.57 | clad|sleep | "No, walk your lazy ass back here. There is no way in hell a druid would waste their Rebirth cooldown on a suicidal mage." |
| 21:58.55 | clad|sleep | needless to say he wasn't very happy with me |
| 21:58.58 | clad|sleep | but we were in the first deadmines room |
| 21:59.05 | clad|sleep | how retarded can you be! |
| 21:59.24 | bleeter | ... nelf hunter? |
| 21:59.34 | clad|sleep | "i can heal better with my draenai mage using gift of the naaru, than u nub drood" |
| 21:59.40 | bleeter | (that's my RP side coming out there ;) |
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| 22:03.33 | Shirik | is there a maximum amount your arena rating can go up in a week? |
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| 22:04.44 | Shirik | !ar 500 |
| 22:04.44 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Arena rating from 500 points is, 2v2: 1734, 3v3: 1674, 5v5: 1626 |
| 22:05.52 | End | omg, java has a printf on its PrintStream! |
| 22:07.08 | Shirik | yeah? |
| 22:07.13 | Shirik | It also has String.format... |
| 22:07.25 | End | it's news to me! |
| 22:08.02 | Shirik | !ap 1554 |
| 22:08.02 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Arena points from a rating of 1554 is, 2v2: 309, 3v3: 357, 5v5: 406 |
| 22:08.39 | Polarina | clad|sleep: - Fixed an extremely rare bug that could cause the wrong player to be reported. -- Good enough for the change log? |
| 22:10.07 | clad|sleep | you should fix it, for certain |
| 22:10.19 | Polarina | clad|sleep: Huh? |
| 22:10.28 | art3mis | http://www.pages.drexel.edu/~weg22/TRIPODlaplace.html |
| 22:10.30 | clad|sleep | i said fix the issue |
| 22:10.37 | clad|sleep | doesn't matter what you put in the changelog |
| 22:10.51 | Polarina | clad|sleep: The "extremely rare bug" thing is for hash collisions. |
| 22:11.53 | Shirik | it's not really "the wrong player to be reported" |
| 22:12.01 | Shirik | but rather "innocent players to be reported" |
| 22:12.12 | Polarina | art3mis: No, that's not the case. |
| 22:12.20 | Polarina | Shirik: Thanks. |
| 22:12.30 | art3mis | i dunno im moraley opposed to a script auto reporting |
| 22:12.44 | art3mis | morally even |
| 22:12.53 | Polarina | art3mis: That one is pretty accurate. :) |
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| 22:13.17 | art3mis | if it bugs you ignore it, if it still bugs you take the effort |
| 22:13.32 | Shirik | Well Polarina, I wouldn't say it's "pretty accurate" |
| 22:13.33 | art3mis | or its not worth the effort then its not an issue and you should get on with your life |
| 22:13.42 | Shirik | I would say that the chances of getting a type II error are much higher than a type I error |
| 22:14.00 | bleeter | reporting doesn't require a hardware event? |
| 22:14.01 | Polarina | art3mis: The time it takes you to farm 1.000 epic items is a lot shorter than the time it takes you to reproduce that bug. |
| 22:14.11 | Polarina | bleeter: No. |
| 22:14.22 | Polarina | bleeter: Well, it will if the API is abused. |
| 22:14.26 | art3mis | bleeter: nupe kind of like the auto replies from dbm and such |
| 22:14.51 | art3mis | "sorry X is fighting a boss right now, he'll be notified at the end of the fight" |
| 22:15.32 | bleeter | maybe I'm misunderstanding, I was thinking of the ingame 'report spammer/afk in bg' function |
| 22:15.49 | Polarina | bleeter: Yes, these don't require a hardware event. |
| 22:15.51 | batrick | something like that needs to be added for pvp |
| 22:16.04 | bleeter | batrick: agreed |
| 22:16.28 | Polarina | bleeter: You are not misunderstanding. |
| 22:16.35 | art3mis | nah what needs to be added to bg pvps is an auto tissue dispenser |
| 22:16.47 | art3mis | for the whiners that actually think it matters enough |
| 22:16.57 | bleeter | art3mis: l2loot 'broken i.w.i.n. button's |
| 22:17.16 | bleeter | think they drop tear stained hankies, too |
| 22:18.03 | art3mis | anyone that takes bgs as more than a meaningless grind needs to get out more |
| 22:18.16 | art3mis | its not like you get ranks or anything anymore so whats the big deal |
| 22:18.36 | art3mis | oh noes! we lost! |
| 22:18.45 | art3mis | that means i have to farm another one! |
| 22:18.49 | art3mis | puhleez |
| 22:18.53 | bleeter | s/farm/afk in/ |
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| 22:19.20 | art3mis | thats almost as bad as the old mudders who'd get all pissy about people afking in thier grind area so the repop was slower |
| 22:19.54 | art3mis | if it bugs you that much you rally need to get out more or play a nice relaxing game of tetris ;P |
| 22:20.11 | bleeter | screw tetris... Maelstrom or Death! :P |
| 22:20.39 | cogwheel | --> print"test" |
| 22:20.39 | batbot | cogwheel: test |
| 22:20.51 | cogwheel | batrick: did you program --> to work only in wowi-lounge or something? |
| 22:21.13 | batrick | yes |
| 22:21.47 | batrick | that's how it works elsewhere too, only in #lua does it only respond when querried by name |
| 22:21.56 | batrick | because rici asked me to |
| 22:22.59 | mewzy | Is there an add on that can figure out mobs armor? |
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| 22:30.16 | Valaron|Work | mob armor? |
| 22:30.31 | Valaron|Work | I think mobinfo2 can calculate it ... unreliably. |
| 22:30.46 | mewzy | you sure? i have it for sometime but dont see it there |
| 22:31.18 | mewzy | i am blind, unreliably k |
| 22:32.36 | Valaron|Work | I haven't played in a while, but I think MI2 can show it on the tooltip.. but you have to enable that setting. |
| 22:34.12 | mewzy | hmm |
| 22:34.19 | mewzy | i ll check it again |
| 22:35.39 | Valaron|Work | Maybe not.. perhaps only immunites and resistances. |
| 22:35.43 | Valaron|Work | I forget. |
| 22:38.44 | mewzy | :p |
| 22:42.07 | bleeter | so.. 2.3.2 PTR shut down... patch tonight or next week? taking bets! :) |
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| 22:43.49 | cogwheel | yes |
| 22:44.04 | cogwheel | "tonight or next week" :P |
| 22:46.29 | TecnoBrat | I bet next thursday. |
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| 22:47.07 | cogwheel | ~hug Cairenn |
| 22:47.07 | purl | ACTION hugs Cairenn |
| 22:47.11 | Shirik | Okay, patch notes |
| 22:47.13 | Shirik | Effects triggered from being critically hit: Many abilities and talents were changed in 2.3.0 to allow them to trigger from critical strikes that occurred while the player benefitting from them was sitting. |
| 22:47.18 | Shirik | wtf does that mean? |
| 22:47.53 | Shirik | (i.e., what does it have to do with 2.3.2?) |
| 22:47.56 | Intangir | if you sit and i crit you your abilities/talents trigger |
| 22:47.58 | bleeter | I've been wondering for some time, too |
| 22:48.11 | Shirik | Intangir: It says they did that was done in 2.3.0 |
| 22:48.19 | Intangir | oh i dont know man |
| 22:48.26 | Intangir | just sit down it will all be fine dont mind the rogue |
| 22:48.26 | bleeter | seems to me they're missing a second sentence. |
| 22:48.45 | bleeter | or typod the version number |
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| 22:52.11 | art3mis | shirik: think of the twisting nether trinket |
| 22:52.18 | art3mis | and how it would proc off eating food |
| 22:52.42 | art3mis | let's say you've got something that triggers good regen if you're hit with a crit spell |
| 22:52.56 | art3mis | someone casts lesser heal on you over and over til it crits and triggers the proc |
| 22:53.04 | art3mis | while your'e eatting and stuff |
| 22:53.18 | bleeter | art3mis: what Shirik is saying, is that the note for the 2.3.2 patch says that stuff was changed in 2.3.0, and does not mention any relevance to 2.3.2 |
| 22:53.38 | art3mis | i think they fergot the "were changed back" |
| 22:53.47 | art3mis | it sorta seems like it was implied |
| 22:53.58 | Shirik | or it could be a version typo |
| 22:53.59 | Shirik | I don't know |
| 22:54.22 | bleeter | or maybe 'this will now work while drinking/eating as well' |
| 22:54.32 | bleeter | or something similar, there's quite a few possibilities |
| 22:54.42 | bleeter | it's definately a broken statement, tho |
| 22:54.56 | art3mis | and doesnt really matter that much ;) |
| 22:55.17 | art3mis | like "your characters shoes will now show properly if you're not wearing a dress" |
| 22:56.12 | art3mis | or "Female Blood Elf Paladins will still look like hussys in all thier gear until about level 58 when they get pants instwead of "hot pants" |
| 22:56.29 | Intangir | hahahaha |
| 22:56.31 | Intangir | hot pants |
| 22:56.34 | Intangir | i love the hotpants |
| 22:56.57 | Intangir | some of the blood elf outfits really are sexy ;) |
| 22:57.22 | Shirik | rogue tops all |
| 22:57.27 | art3mis | laugh i ran around in metal thigh highs and silver hotpants and a silver corset for about 25 levels |
| 22:57.40 | Intangir | lol ;) ya my friend is a paladin |
| 22:57.46 | art3mis | i carried a staff just to have a pole to dance around |
| 22:57.51 | Shirik | rofl |
| 22:58.05 | Intangir | he has gear that looks like string langerei or however you spell it |
| 22:58.09 | Intangir | but its like plate ;) |
| 22:58.16 | art3mis | lingere |
| 22:58.48 | art3mis | my fav part of tbc was the new laoding screens |
| 22:59.04 | art3mis | how they have female BE gnome, undead and human and a lone dwarf male |
| 22:59.14 | Shirik | lol yeah |
| 22:59.16 | art3mis | i call it the "pussy screenie" |
| 22:59.19 | Intangir | lol |
| 22:59.22 | kd3 | ya, that was rather amusing when it first got out |
| 22:59.28 | Intangir | ya that guy is gonna get some |
| 22:59.41 | art3mis | all drwaves are gay though |
| 22:59.44 | art3mis | dwarves |
| 22:59.51 | Intangir | hahaha |
| 23:00.01 | Intangir | i still think night elves are hottest |
| 23:00.02 | art3mis | maybe thats how he got in the screenshot ;P |
| 23:00.04 | End | even the kalimdor screen has more chicks than guys on it |
| 23:00.20 | Intangir | blood elves have hotter outfits but nightelves have a better figure |
| 23:00.34 | art3mis | be's and drainos have that sorta vacant super model who hasnt eatten in weeks look |
| 23:00.50 | kd3 | damn it azureus! go faster |
| 23:11.46 | Lunessa | I could really use a scrunchy. Yeah, you heard me. |
| 23:12.30 | cogwheel | scrunchies are great |
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| 23:15.07 | art3mis | for some reason i picture cog as sorta mathew lalard in hackers |
| 23:15.29 | Thunder_Child | get shorter hair and you wont need a scrunchy |
| 23:15.34 | Shirik | That's really amusing art3mis |
| 23:15.34 | Cairenn | woohoo! http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3773503086&postId=37729048455&sid=1#0 |
| 23:15.57 | haste | lol |
| 23:16.19 | Intangir | grats? |
| 23:16.29 | Thunder_Child | gratz indeed |
| 23:16.36 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> #wowi-lounge: Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.3.x ToC: 20300 | Congrats Slouken on new baby! http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3773503086&postId=37729048455&sid=1#0 |
| 23:16.45 | art3mis | im impressed he found someone to procreate with |
| 23:16.53 | art3mis | there's hope for you yet TV |
| 23:16.53 | Cairenn | that's their second |
| 23:16.54 | art3mis | TC |
| 23:17.01 | Thunder_Child | art3mis |
| 23:17.17 | art3mis | yes dear? |
| 23:17.33 | Thunder_Child | oh..nvm i didnt see the other part |
| 23:17.38 | art3mis | everyone needs to watch Idiocracy |
| 23:17.41 | Thunder_Child | i thought you just wrote TC |
| 23:18.12 | Thunder_Child | art3mis, thats bad, you just make slouken to be as bad as me |
| 23:18.16 | Thunder_Child | you fial |
| 23:18.27 | art3mis | they had 3 children and they were the 3 smartest children on the panet. his lawyer took 8 wives and had 32 of the dumbest kids you've ever seen. |
| 23:19.27 | art3mis | nah im merely im plying if slouken can then your 0% chance went up a little bit by proxy |
| 23:19.46 | art3mis | where's cidan been |
| 23:19.59 | art3mis | speaking of bi-proxies |
| 23:20.29 | Shirik | Anyone want to look at my new raid spec? |
| 23:20.35 | Shirik | I need to reconfirm it before I go out of pvp |
| 23:20.39 | Shirik | I forgot to write down my old spec =( |
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| 23:21.59 | Intangir | art3mis: you sound like a fag |
| 23:22.15 | Shirik | art3mis: I don't really know |
| 23:22.20 | Shirik | he's been missing |
| 23:22.21 | Intangir | fuck off im eating ;) |
| 23:22.30 | Antiarc | Shirik: Install Scrub! |
| 23:22.38 | Intangir | i love that movie |
| 23:22.48 | Intangir | 'put this one in your ear, this one in your mouth and this one in your butt' |
| 23:22.55 | Intangir | 'oh wait.. this one goes in your mouth' |
| 23:22.56 | Intangir | HAHAHAHA ;) |
| 23:22.58 | Intangir | omg |
| 23:22.58 | Shirik | Antiarc: I will sometime :P |
| 23:25.18 | art3mis | intangir: nah, if i was a fag i wouldnt be online id be in a camp away from the population because gayness is contagious |
| 23:25.27 | art3mis | at elast mr.huckabee says so |
| 23:25.58 | art3mis | go away! baitin! |
| 23:26.40 | Lunessa | Shirik: for your priest? |
| 23:26.42 | Fisker- | FLAWLESS VICTORY |
| 23:26.46 | Shirik | yes |
| 23:26.49 | haste | FINISH HIM! |
| 23:26.58 | cogwheel | Fisker-: It's super effective. |
| 23:27.04 | Fisker- | yay |
| 23:27.10 | cogwheel | Fisker-: The wild COGWHEEL dies |
| 23:27.14 | Lunessa | Shirik: linkee? |
| 23:27.17 | Fisker- | nooo |
| 23:27.21 | Fisker- | i wanted to capture it :( |
| 23:28.05 | Fisker- | now i'm going to get some sleep :( |
| 23:28.21 | Shirik | This is what I'm looking at atm: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bxg0zhLZfLxccMaVhVo |
| 23:28.24 | art3mis | it's the biggest monster truck we've ever made!!!!! *crowd cheers* *truck slams into the doorway its obviously too big for, backs up does it again, backs up and brings fdown the concrete arch on it breaking it* |
| 23:28.28 | cogwheel | Fisker-: i hate it when that happens :P |
| 23:28.55 | Fisker- | good planning art3mis :O |
| 23:28.58 | Fisker- | now |
| 23:28.59 | Fisker- | SLEEP TIEM |
| 23:29.07 | cogwheel | NN |
| 23:29.16 | wereHamster | does next() iterate over all keys of a table or only non-nil ones? |
| 23:29.31 | Shirik | Lunessa: Take one point out of silent resolve, add it to mental agility |
| 23:29.37 | Lunessa | If you're going to take Spiritual Healing, why not get Divine Spirit? |
| 23:29.44 | MentalPower | stop pinging me! :P |
| 23:29.47 | Shirik | Assuming someone else has it |
| 23:30.05 | Lunessa | It looks fine to me then. |
| 23:30.13 | cogwheel | wereHamster: non-nil |
| 23:30.19 | cogwheel | (which is only relevant for arrays) |
| 23:30.30 | art3mis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN8hA-WU7eo&feature=related |
| 23:30.36 | art3mis | ^^ the scene i was talking about |
| 23:30.41 | art3mis | one of the best in the movie btw |
| 23:30.41 | cogwheel | (since there's no such thing as a hash key with a nil value) |
| 23:31.33 | art3mis | go watch now! |
| 23:34.43 | Shirik | Lunessa: <3 |
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| 23:35.15 | Lunessa | You're going deeper into the holy tree than I am, but it looks good. |
| 23:36.59 | art3mis | because it's got electrolytes, it's what plants crave.. what are electrolytes do you even know? uhh it's what plants crave and it's in brawndo! |
| 23:40.30 | wereHamster | so will next iterate over all values of { nil, I, nil } ? |
| 23:41.37 | cogwheel | wereHamster: i don't think so |
| 23:41.44 | cogwheel | or it may |
| 23:41.45 | Lunessa | even when I don't put them in there. |
| 23:41.55 | cogwheel | wereHamster: you should never use nil as actual values for table entries |
| 23:42.08 | cogwheel | the whole point of nil is to signify that something doesn't exist |
| 23:42.46 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, then your not trying hard enough |
| 23:43.00 | bleeter | heh, guildie's saying he's just had 2 games of 2v3 in a row |
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| 23:43.24 | cogwheel | even ipairs isn't guaranteed to iterate over the nils in { nil, I, nil }, though it may depending on how the array is internally structured |
| 23:45.24 | End | ipairs() stops on first nil |
| 23:46.59 | wereHamster | isn't { nil, I, nil } the same as {[2]=C} ? |
| 23:47.15 | End | I dunno |
| 23:47.23 | End | it might turn it into a hash table like you say |
| 23:47.50 | End | but {1,2,3,nil,5,6} is different than {[1] = 1, [2] = 2, ...} |
| 23:47.56 | End | I think |
| 23:48.03 | JoshBorke | lua> for k, v in ipairs({nil, 'I', nil}) do print(k) end |
| 23:48.03 | lua_bot | JoshBorke: |
| 23:48.06 | End | someone correct or confirm what I said :P |
| 23:48.06 | JoshBorke | End: correct |
| 23:48.29 | JoshBorke | that's a 5.1 change |
| 23:48.47 | End | I remember there being a problem with the way saved vars being saved :P |
| 23:48.58 | End | only reason I have any idea at all :P |
| 23:49.36 | wereHamster | this is my code: http://pastey.net/80275 |
| 23:49.50 | haste | anyone experienced that CHAT_MSG_LOOT starts lacking behind? |
| 23:50.26 | wereHamster | basically, I want C/I/S be called only once each frame, even if an event is fired several times |
| 23:50.27 | haste | it dumps the item I looted three lots before the one I currently did |
| 23:51.08 | haste | lots -> loots |
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| 23:51.57 | cogwheel | wereHamster: why not just loop from 1-3? |
| 23:52.03 | cogwheel | or give them named values? |
| 23:52.09 | cogwheel | s/values/keys/ |
| 23:53.42 | wereHamster | for k, v in pairs({nil, 'I', nil}) do print(v) end works though.. |
| 23:53.52 | cogwheel | it's not guaranteed to |
| 23:53.59 | JoshBorke | lua> for k, v in ipairs({nil, 'I', nil}) do print(v) end |
| 23:53.59 | lua_bot | JoshBorke: |
| 23:54.01 | cogwheel | it's bad lua |
| 23:54.11 | JoshBorke | lua> for k, v in pairs({nil, 'I', nil}) do print(v) end |
| 23:54.11 | lua_bot | JoshBorke: I |
| 23:54.20 | JoshBorke | pairs will work because it iterates over all key/values |
| 23:54.22 | JoshBorke | ipairs won't |
| 23:55.01 | cogwheel | JoshBorke: that's not "working" by wereHamster's reckoning... he wants it to iterate over the nils as well |
| 23:55.14 | batrick | problem with pairs is some expect [2] to be included, even though it's value is nil |
| 23:55.28 | JoshBorke | you mean 3? |
| 23:55.38 | wereHamster | not necessarily, I don't care about the nils |
| 23:55.46 | End | if you know it's an actual array with hash table bits you could go from 1 to #array |
| 23:55.49 | End | er |
| 23:55.51 | batrick | the only real solution is to assign (as done in examples in pil) "n" to the number of elements in the table |
| 23:55.55 | End | if you know it's an actual array with NO hash table bits you could go from 1 to #array |
| 23:55.55 | cogwheel | wereHamster: so what are you asking then? :P |
| 23:56.05 | cogwheel | given your code, those nils serve no purpose |
| 23:56.35 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Tuller (n=chatzill@c-76-27-166-119.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 23:56.42 | End | I always forget choice words like NOT or NO or I add them when they don't belong... :-/ |
| 23:56.51 | wereHamster | sure they do, they make sure that Callbacks[1] is either nil or S |
| 23:57.28 | batrick | all unset table values are nil wereHamster... |
| 23:57.49 | cogwheel | wereHamster: I suspect your assigning more meaning to the position than you should... |
| 23:59.02 | cogwheel | if you're always going to assign the same value to each position, then there should be a much cleaner way to represent the data |
| 23:59.48 | cogwheel | is it only the order that matters? or are you actually indexing them by number directly in other places? |
| 23:59.56 | wereHamster | I have three functions, each event should make the code call one or more of those functions once each OnUpdate |
