| 00:00.12 | AnduinLothar | right, you'd have to catch the last dmg done |
| 00:00.16 | AnduinLothar | diff event |
| 00:01.24 | specbeans | any idea what that is? or if it exists? theres a few here to check hits against friendly targets. but does that include all hits? (spells / melee etc) |
| 00:02.26 | specbeans | in fact ill just make a quick addon and see what it gives me :P |
| 00:03.01 | AnduinLothar | you'd have to check all of the self dmg taken events |
| 00:03.01 | AnduinLothar | or friendly in this case |
| 00:03.36 | specbeans | hmm i can find the hits but im not sure how to go about getting the last attack, before the death |
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| 00:05.13 | Thunder_Child | you know, i cant imagine no one has created a program for simple math problems that show work |
| 00:05.27 | clad|sleep | Thunder_Child: like arithmetic? |
| 00:05.34 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 00:05.54 | clad|sleep | yeah i dunno =/ |
| 00:06.03 | dylanm | It has been done. |
| 00:06.18 | Thunder_Child | where? i cant seem to find it |
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| 00:13.42 | buu | specbeans: Use assessment |
| 00:13.50 | buu | specbeans: This stuff so been done. |
| 00:14.28 | JoshBorke | so? can always be redone :-D |
| 00:14.42 | buu | JoshBorke: sure, but why do it if you don't have to? |
| 00:14.56 | _art3mis | buu |
| 00:15.01 | _art3mis | omen+threatlib |
| 00:15.07 | _art3mis | that should explain why ;P |
| 00:16.29 | buu | art3mis: Er, what? |
| 00:16.46 | art3mis | ktm existed and a few others did but omen was still created and turned out better |
| 00:16.54 | buu | Heh. |
| 00:16.56 | art3mis | thus "redone" is somwetimes a good thing |
| 00:17.14 | buu | I seriously doubt that applies here. |
| 00:17.15 | art3mis | ya know what would be awesome |
| 00:17.19 | buu | APPLESAUCE |
| 00:17.23 | art3mis | if you could "image" directories |
| 00:17.31 | art3mis | like ghost |
| 00:17.34 | buu | Uh |
| 00:17.36 | art3mis | only one directory |
| 00:17.39 | buu | Welcome to 'copy' ? |
| 00:17.49 | art3mis | so i could restore wow and tbc unalteraed in less than 5 mins ;P |
| 00:18.13 | buu | art3mis: copy + rename = win |
| 00:18.17 | art3mis | but store then in a vastly smaller size |
| 00:18.23 | End | you can under linux I think |
| 00:18.24 | art3mis | heh i suppsoe i could rar em |
| 00:18.25 | art3mis | ;P |
| 00:18.27 | buu | art3mis: Most of wow is heavily compressed |
| 00:18.28 | End | it's called a snapshot? |
| 00:18.30 | buu | I doubt you'd get much wins. |
| 00:18.36 | buu | End: OsX! |
| 00:18.38 | End | at least, I think Linux has it |
| 00:18.38 | buu | Time machines! |
| 00:18.39 | art3mis | but the idea of having program installs just all backup imaged would be neat |
| 00:19.12 | art3mis | snapshot and time machine wouldnt help in this case |
| 00:19.20 | art3mis | i fuxxored something in my wow install |
| 00:19.33 | art3mis | so the only savior is an rm -rf and reinstall |
| 00:20.07 | Esamynn|Work | art3mis: repair utility didn't work? |
| 00:20.18 | art3mis | although i suppose vm's would work in this instance |
| 00:20.30 | art3mis | Esamynn|Work: its a spot on my drive |
| 00:20.42 | art3mis | rm defrag reinst |
| 00:20.42 | End | o_O |
| 00:20.44 | Esamynn|Work | ahh |
| 00:20.46 | End | ah |
| 00:21.06 | Esamynn|Work | perhaps you need to get a new drive then |
| 00:21.14 | art3mis | i keep getting hardlocks for no other reason taht i can see aside from bad mem or bad drive block |
| 00:21.19 | art3mis | yeah |
| 00:21.28 | art3mis | i keep neglecting to do that as well ;) |
| 00:21.42 | art3mis | ive got an ide133 boot and a sata |
| 00:21.53 | art3mis | i really should move em both to sata and make the world a better place |
| 00:22.27 | art3mis | i <3 mozy |
| 00:22.34 | art3mis | it saves me so much hassle |
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| 00:29.23 | reqol | this is probably a dumb question, but what's the difference between a backdrop and a texture? |
| 00:30.55 | art3mis | backdrop is behind everything as far as the interface is concerned |
| 00:31.11 | art3mis | texture is almost an overlay for sake of argument |
| 00:31.32 | art3mis | it usually rests up a few layers |
| 00:32.32 | reqol | and in order to set a texture (at least through lua) you need to use CreateTexture and then set the texture's attributes to the frame? |
| 00:33.31 | art3mis | yup i believe so |
| 00:33.41 | reqol | thanks! |
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| 00:35.46 | reqol | in this example (f is the frame, t is the texture): (f.texture = t) what exactly does this do? |
| 00:36.22 | kd3 | lol at today's user friendly... http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20080103&mode=classic |
| 00:36.23 | [Liquidor] | I don't have a single bomb to spare. :-( |
| 00:39.01 | art3mis | Speed: 3.46MB/s Estimated time to complete 1.4GB 8mins 43 seconds. |
| 00:39.03 | art3mis | mmmmmmmmmmm |
| 00:41.42 | reqol | do frames have some sort of a table attribute? |
| 00:41.51 | Corrodias | table attribute? |
| 00:42.00 | Corrodias | what do you mean? |
| 00:42.03 | reqol | also, on a completely unrelated note: http://thegamefish.com/foam.aspx |
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| 00:42.58 | reqol | wowwiki example: f.texture = t the dot notation doesn't necessarily refer to a table but to me it seems like an obvious index, i'm confused as to what the point is to this |
| 00:44.01 | alestane | .texture in Lua is syntactic sugar for ["texture"]. |
| 00:44.03 | reqol | wonder what that foam smells like, if it's from seaweed excretions and dead fish ;_; |
| 00:44.12 | reqol | yeah |
| 00:44.15 | NightHawkTheSane | frames made in lua are basically just tables |
| 00:44.16 | reqol | I know that much |
| 00:44.20 | NightHawkTheSane | that wow handles specially |
| 00:44.21 | reqol | NightHawkTheSane: that's what I was asking |
| 00:44.36 | Corrodias | there's a piece in the table that refers to some userdata that is the C object of the frame |
| 00:44.41 | Corrodias | i can't remember its index, though |
| 00:44.53 | alestane | [0] |
| 00:45.04 | Corrodias | ah yes |
| 00:45.18 | alestane | A frame or texture object is a {[0 userdata, ...} table. |
| 00:45.26 | reqol | so what would be the point of setting the frames "texture" variable besides just another reference to the object? |
| 00:46.09 | alestane | Nothing, it would just be a place for you to keep track of it. |
| 00:46.17 | reqol | okay, that's what I figured. thanks :D |
| 00:46.50 | alestane | Use frame:CreateTexture(), or I think :SetParent() may also work on textures. |
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| 00:47.14 | alestane | frame:GetRegions() will return all texture and fontstring objects that are in that frame. |
| 00:48.45 | Corrodias | believe me, knowing little about the frame-altering API and trying to modify an addon to mess with how a frame looks is fun |
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| 02:20.33 | Shirik | Anyone heard of this addon "Inventory On Par"? |
| 02:20.59 | [dRaCo] | na... what's it supposed to do? |
| 02:21.14 | Shirik | It's a program that rates a person's "onpar score" based on the gear they have |
| 02:21.22 | Shirik | 0 being approximately ready for beginning kara |
| 02:21.36 | Shirik | Anyway I wanted to know who wrote this program so I can ring their neck |
| 02:21.45 | Shirik | The calculations in it are possibly the worst I have ever seen to provide this comparison |
| 02:22.35 | Shirik | Apparently I'm 510.78 in my raid gear |
| 02:22.41 | Shirik | and then it puts me at 550 in my horrible pvp gear |
| 02:22.52 | Shirik | because of one thing: The S3 chestpiece counts equivalent to T6 |
| 02:22.53 | Shirik | that's stupid |
| 02:23.45 | Cide | likely just uses itemlevel |
| 02:23.49 | Shirik | it does |
| 02:23.58 | Shirik | it does itemlevel - playerlevel - someconstant (I think 20) |
| 02:24.01 | Shirik | and sums them all up |
| 02:24.07 | Shirik | that's a horrible way to compare gear |
| 02:24.17 | Cide | it's a stupid idea to begin with |
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| 02:35.14 | kergoth | hah |
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| 03:46.58 | art3mis | hrm odd |
| 03:47.04 | art3mis | http://desktop.gothi.ca |
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| 04:43.59 | cogwheel | art3mis: http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=strange&word2=odd |
| 04:44.04 | cogwheel | so there! |
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| 04:46.13 | cogwheel | ~lart3mis |
| 04:46.14 | purl | ACTION smacks art3mis upside the head just cuz |
| 04:47.10 | JoshBorke | ~lcogwheel |
| 04:47.13 | JoshBorke | o.O |
| 04:47.21 | JoshBorke | ~lart3mis |
| 04:47.22 | purl | ACTION smacks art3mis upside the head just cuz |
| 04:47.32 | JoshBorke | ~lartcogwheel |
| 04:47.46 | JoshBorke | ~literal lart3mis |
| 04:47.47 | purl | "lart3mis" is "<action>smacks art3mis upside the head just cuz" |
| 04:47.50 | JoshBorke | kk |
| 04:47.51 | cogwheel | :P |
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| 05:33.58 | Tierrie | artt333mis |
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| 06:40.06 | art3mis | woo |
| 06:40.10 | art3mis | ~lartemis |
| 06:40.14 | art3mis | ~lart3mis |
| 06:40.15 | purl | ACTION smacks art3mis upside the head just cuz |
| 06:40.25 | art3mis | <-- special |
| 06:40.46 | art3mis | oh btw you kick my ass on goggle fight cog |
| 06:40.53 | art3mis | 15k you's to 4k mes |
| 06:41.01 | art3mis | googlefight |
| 06:41.29 | art3mis | oh man |
| 06:41.38 | art3mis | AS loses futurama and gets american dad |
| 06:41.45 | cogwheel | Tierrie: fwiw, i get it... |
| 06:41.47 | cogwheel | :P |
| 06:43.27 | art3mis | 6mins left 289mb of 692mb (1.1MB/s) |
| 06:43.31 | art3mis | yay |
| 06:43.58 | Thunder_Child | art3mis, i am reading up on that weird posting thing |
| 06:48.04 | Tierrie | hi art3mis! |
| 06:48.06 | Tierrie | whats up dude |
| 06:48.55 | art3mis | that "game/message board/blog/thingy? |
| 06:49.03 | Tierrie | who what me? |
| 06:49.07 | art3mis | nadda. mister ditchy pants ;) |
| 06:51.43 | Thunder_Child | art3mis, ya |
| 06:51.54 | Thunder_Child | i posted....took me long enough to read the damn rules |
| 06:52.59 | art3mis | haha yeah |
| 06:53.08 | art3mis | i didnt quite understand the psoting either |
| 06:53.19 | art3mis | then when i did it i was like OOOOOOooohhhhh |
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| 06:53.45 | Thunder_Child | you can oooooohhhhh all you want, i didnt even finish reading it |
| 06:57.19 | Tierrie | :( |
| 06:57.23 | Tierrie | i am not mr ditchy pants |
| 06:57.26 | Tierrie | also i loved new york |
| 06:57.28 | Tierrie | i want to live there |
| 06:57.33 | Tierrie | how much did you say your rent was again? |
| 06:59.19 | art3mis | 1800 |
| 06:59.47 | art3mis | ttc: heh i think im gonna reset up the DB tomorrow properly and then we can all play! |
| 07:00.32 | Tierrie | 1800 holy cow :( |
| 07:00.43 | Tierrie | are there lots of software engineering jobs in new york? |
| 07:03.01 | art3mis | a fair amount yeah |
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| 07:04.31 | Thunder_Child | art3mis, your DB? |
| 07:05.25 | art3mis | yeah |
| 07:05.36 | art3mis | it's got a mysql backend |
| 07:05.49 | art3mis | i sorta half assed installed |
| 07:05.54 | art3mis | but it actually looks like fun |
| 07:06.03 | art3mis | did you check out the desktop view? |
| 07:08.01 | Tierrie | there are software engineering jobs in NY?! i am going to apply for a few |
| 07:08.06 | Tierrie | i want to work out there |
| 07:08.32 | Thunder_Child | no i didnt |
| 07:09.32 | Thunder_Child | art3mis, http://desktop.gothi.ca/flashdesktops/ ? |
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| 07:16.26 | art3mis | yeah that thing |
| 07:16.37 | Thunder_Child | art3mis, it's a blank page for me |
| 07:17.09 | art3mis | on the main page where it talks about the card game |
| 07:17.16 | art3mis | click the desktop link there and it should load |
| 07:17.24 | art3mis | if it doesnt it's because i didnt setup the db right |
| 07:17.28 | art3mis | and i suck ;P |
| 07:17.58 | Thunder_Child | ya, thats where i clicked from the first time |
| 07:18.27 | Thunder_Child | oh, and it keeps reloading and kicking me out from staying logged in |
| 07:18.37 | art3mis | ndos thats db |
| 07:18.41 | art3mis | try posting again |
| 07:18.46 | art3mis | thats how i noticed it was broken |
| 07:19.04 | Thunder_Child | i cant, i am locked i think |
| 07:19.56 | Thunder_Child | besides, i have to create a new user |
| 07:20.00 | Thunder_Child | >< |
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| 08:26.31 | art3mis | wierd |
| 08:26.42 | art3mis | after you posted it stopped connecting to the mysql server |
| 08:26.47 | art3mis | even after installs |
| 08:27.03 | art3mis | it would install the tables but not conenct after |
| 08:28.47 | Thunder_Child | heh i win |
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| 08:35.21 | Thunder_Child | damit, giving a textbox the value of "" seems like cheating to clear it |
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| 08:41.04 | art3mis | no way! |
| 08:41.10 | art3mis | you had 650 i had 850! |
| 08:41.31 | Thunder_Child | i gave you 250 |
| 08:41.35 | art3mis | i suppose you do get bonus points for breaking my sql server though |
| 08:41.44 | Thunder_Child | heh |
| 08:47.37 | Thunder_Child | anyone know VB? |
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| 09:01.14 | art3mis | there we go tc sql is back i think ;P |
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| 09:02.29 | Thunder_Child | art3mis, did you wipe the DB? |
| 09:04.49 | Thunder_Child | flashdesktop thing still isnt working |
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| 09:13.14 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* art3mis, you fail as a responsive human being |
| 09:13.28 | art3mis | whys that? |
| 09:13.37 | Thunder_Child | you ignore things |
| 09:13.45 | art3mis | not at all |
| 09:13.54 | art3mis | i just tend to go see if i can fix em ;) |
| 09:14.00 | Thunder_Child | not that i need the answe anymore but "(01:02:35) (Thunder_Child) art3mis, did you wipe the DB?" |
| 09:14.04 | Thunder_Child | answer* |
| 09:14.09 | art3mis | oh that |
| 09:14.14 | art3mis | yeah the first one i did |
| 09:14.22 | art3mis | it doesnt seem to like saving things |
| 09:14.31 | Thunder_Child | nope |
| 09:14.42 | Thunder_Child | not my login anyway |
| 09:14.47 | art3mis | mine neither |
| 09:14.57 | art3mis | and ive tried in opera ie and ff |
| 09:15.05 | bleeter | for those Oceanic players who are on Internode, you may have missed http://games.internode.on.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=132915 so I'm posting it here fyi :) |
| 09:15.28 | bleeter | (ISP runs own Nagle disabling service for WoW players) |
| 09:16.39 | Thunder_Child | art3mis, well i still have no idea how the points work |
| 09:16.45 | Thunder_Child | seems to be random |
| 09:17.47 | art3mis | as far as i can tell if you post on an open side you get full smiley points |
| 09:17.53 | art3mis | if you post on a joiner you split em |
| 09:18.05 | art3mis | err split the points of your smilie |
| 09:19.23 | Thunder_Child | not bad, 32GB flash drives for $229-$249 |
| 09:20.26 | art3mis | well shit |
| 09:20.30 | art3mis | it broke the sql again |
| 09:20.37 | Thunder_Child | ~win |
| 09:20.38 | purl | methinks win is lose. |
| 09:20.41 | art3mis | laugh |
| 09:20.41 | Thunder_Child | ... |
| 09:20.45 | Thunder_Child | damn apt |
| 09:23.58 | art3mis | laugh it IS over 2 years old though ;P |
| 09:24.15 | art3mis | (2005-04-14 02:57) |
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| 10:30.52 | Mike-N-Go | Awsome |
| 10:31.02 | Mike-N-Go | Corpses fall to the ground on deah! |
| 10:31.04 | Mike-N-Go | death* |
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| 12:03.49 | art3mis | http://www.firstshowing.net/2007/12/17/the-dark-knight-full-theatrical-trailer-debuts/ |
| 12:08.25 | Mike-N-Go | I use SWStas, and a window that you press S to open appears off the pane, and I can't grab the part that is on the pane. |
| 12:09.07 | Mike-N-Go | Any ideas? |
| 12:17.46 | bleeter | my crazy idea for the day: replace the 1 mark for BG loss/3 for win with 'loser mark' and 'winner mark'. winner marks used as usual, loser marks can buy food/limited pots/bandages. People who AFK in AV would no longer benefit as they wouldn't get a mark, and it'd be incentive for folks to work closer for the win. thoughts? |
| 12:18.05 | cladhaire | marks aren't why people afk in AV |
| 12:18.10 | cladhaire | so its a band-aid |
| 12:18.59 | JoshBorke | make it so you can only earn honor when you are "close" to the action |
| 12:19.07 | cladhaire | how do you define close? |
| 12:19.28 | JoshBorke | 40 yds, no honor if you're in the cave |
| 12:19.31 | bleeter | if you're defending a tower that the opposition don't attempt to cap, you're contributing but will be penalised? |
| 12:19.35 | cladhaire | so you're a ghost, you res.. and you're running from SP to FW to help |
| 12:19.39 | cladhaire | and your team wins |
| 12:19.42 | cladhaire | BAM you lose out on 80 honor |
| 12:19.55 | cladhaire | that idea is so flawed, I don't know where to begin :P |
| 12:20.04 | JoshBorke | i'm sleepy |
| 12:20.11 | JoshBorke | and you're stupid :-P |
| 12:20.12 | bleeter | ~lullaby JoshBorke |
| 12:20.20 | cladhaire | now if the |
| 12:20.22 | cladhaire | "no honor" debuff was harder to get.. had some intelligence to it |
| 12:20.24 | [Ammo] | JoshBorke: addonloader.... |
| 12:20.24 | cladhaire | and gave the person AFK deserter status |
| 12:20.26 | cladhaire | that would help |
| 12:20.40 | JoshBorke | [Ammo]: give me your gcode info |
| 12:20.40 | cladhaire | not perfect, but an improvement |
| 12:20.49 | [Ammo] | wouter.commandeur |
| 12:20.55 | [Ammo] | afaik :) |
| 12:20.59 | [Ammo] | I'm on the legoblock list |
| 12:21.01 | cladhaire | if we get a basic structure done |
| 12:21.12 | cladhaire | i'll work on commiting some of the conditions, etc. |
| 12:21.24 | bleeter | cladhaire: yes, somehow to give BG kick/deserter would be nice. unfortunately I've had the debuff applied when defending towers/gy's, so I wouldn't like to get kicked then |
| 12:21.29 | cladhaire | I think we should aim for ".toc file" compatability with the initial AddonLoader |
| 12:21.37 | cladhaire | bleeter: thats why i said it needs to be more intelligent |
| 12:21.38 | bleeter | tho at our battlegroup's lose rate, I don't think I'd care that much ;) |
| 12:21.39 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: agreed |
| 12:21.43 | JoshBorke | [Ammo]: wow-addonloader |
| 12:21.48 | art3mis | Mike-N-Go: edit the location in the saved variables |
| 12:21.48 | cladhaire | have something more behind it |
| 12:22.12 | cladhaire | JoshBorke: You can sign me up for the override system |
| 12:22.14 | cladhaire | including the SV |
| 12:22.20 | cladhaire | if you guys wanna work on the "other" stuff |
| 12:22.35 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: ok |
| 12:22.39 | [Ammo] | sure, but no-one wrote an outline yet did they? |
| 12:22.46 | JoshBorke | [Ammo]: no |
| 12:22.49 | cladhaire | nope, move to #dongle so we dont spam here |
| 12:22.56 | JoshBorke | [Ammo]: i need an outline so i can really dig into it |
| 12:23.38 | art3mis | addonloader? |
| 12:23.46 | art3mis | out of game? |
| 12:23.56 | JoshBorke | art3mis: LoD manager |
| 12:23.59 | art3mis | oh |
| 12:24.03 | art3mis | booo |
| 12:24.09 | art3mis | there's millions of those |
| 12:24.31 | cladhaire | not really |
| 12:24.36 | cladhaire | and yes, there's an Ace one |
| 12:24.41 | cladhaire | and we're re-doing it, for a number of reasons |
| 12:24.45 | reqol | this is really odd. I have a variable indexed as Throttle in my table. when the slash command is called with throttle as a substring, it changes the Throttle variable to it if it is a number. if the number is 0 it changes .ThrottleOff to true |
| 12:24.49 | art3mis | if you could make a wow emulator with all the api calls and the ability to simulate them to create addosn offline without the hideous loading of wow that would be way more awesome |
| 12:24.54 | MoonWolf | i'dlove one that has a non sucky ui |
| 12:25.01 | MoonWolf | the current one's ui makes me goo uuuugh |
| 12:25.12 | art3mis | oh josh |
| 12:25.14 | reqol | however even after testing it with debug text throttleoff will never be true, regardless if it is 0 or not. the if statement evalutes to true so i can't see why this would be happening. |
| 12:25.20 | art3mis | that peel away ad thingy i mentionde earlier |
| 12:25.27 | reqol | hmm, sorry to interrupt art3mis. |
| 12:25.31 | art3mis | its a js that calls a swf |
| 12:25.44 | art3mis | not at all i interrupt people all the time ;P |
| 12:25.47 | art3mis | don't feel bad |
| 12:26.32 | reqol | there is _nothing_ changing it to false; in fact the ONLY LINE that would turn it false would be the else statement of the if that changes it true, which is not firing. |
| 12:26.59 | bleeter | cladhaire: oh well, it's certainly something I continue to ponder. who knows, one day someone might be able to 'solve' the problem |
| 12:27.04 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 12:27.20 | bleeter | in the meantime, I'll go back to wondering why on hell folks sell adamantite dust stuff on the AH for under vendor price by 2-3g |
| 12:28.02 | art3mis | cuz insidious people input false prices or lowball once in a while to screw up auctioneer data ;P |
| 12:28.08 | art3mis | so they can do what you do |
| 12:28.43 | bleeter | no, people are just stupid and list for whatever auctioneer 'suggests' based on it's defaults, and don't even bother to look if they're selling at under vendor |
| 12:28.53 | bleeter | or, worse still, what other people suggest |
| 12:29.19 | bleeter | thing that gets me, is this stuff is stacks of 20.. now, who creates it, and who uses it? JCs. And what are they gunna have? stacks of the stuff laying around doing stuff all |
| 12:29.32 | bleeter | so why even list the stuff on the AH in the first place is beyond me |
| 12:40.22 | bleeter | while I'm in a bitching mood... here's hoping blizz close a bunch of the reported gold sellers this month |
| 12:41.19 | bleeter | tho I must admit I was amused during winterveil, when one of the gold seller bots got stuck by the roping near Greatfather in IF, I feel I've been reporting this one company for months on my home server |
| 12:41.43 | bleeter | and I've noticed on my alts' server that there's always two goldsellers /follow'ing each other advertising the same site |
| 12:42.04 | bleeter | which seems to have been going on for two or more months as well |
| 12:42.22 | MoonWolf | thats why i don't have /s on my bankalts chat frames and chat bubbles off. |
| 12:43.39 | bleeter | oh, don't get me wrong... I kinda like to see them and to be able to report them. It's the length of time from initial reports through to any action that's starting to get me annoyed. I can appreciate they can't be turned off immediately, just seems it's taking a while this cycle. |
| 12:44.57 | bleeter | maybe the current seller/s I'm seeing advertised a lot are a hard nut to crack, metaphorically speaking (tho I'm sure Blizz'd wish otherwise ;-) |
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| 14:08.08 | mikma | uh |
| 14:08.12 | Lopeppeppy | zenzelezz, I think you're less awake than I am. Ever heard "The Nurse Who Loved Me" ? |
| 14:08.22 | mikma | zenzelezz: what is she wearing? |
| 14:08.31 | zenzelezz | not much any more |
| 14:08.54 | zenzelezz | and no, I haven't heard that; and I do know the actual meaning of your nursing sentence |
| 14:08.59 | zenzelezz | it was just more fun to read it my way |
| 14:09.01 | mikma | did she.. measure your temperature from anus? |
| 14:09.21 | zenzelezz | nope, you're alone with those fantasies |
| 14:09.31 | mikma | good. |
| 14:09.48 | Maldivia | bugger... I was kind of expecting an answer like "yes... yes... yes..." |
| 14:09.48 | Lopeppeppy | Good. |
| 14:09.52 | Lopeppeppy | No. |
| 14:09.55 | Lopeppeppy | No. No. No. |
| 14:10.08 | Lopeppeppy | *laugh* |
| 14:10.13 | zenzelezz | I may be a freak, but not that kind of freak |
| 14:10.39 | Lopeppeppy | Ditto. |
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| 14:41.21 | bleeter | wtf? I'm alliance, died in AV.. I'm looking at hord spirit guides trying to rez me :/ |
| 14:41.51 | malreth | it happens |
| 14:41.53 | Lopeppeppy | Sweet. The bg's have been borked all week. |
| 14:42.04 | malreth | spirit run to more friendlier territory |
| 14:42.34 | Lopeppeppy | That does seem pretty darned SMRT. I like to run amok in AV as a ghostie. |
| 14:43.11 | bleeter | basically, anyone who's dead and not afk couldn't get a rez |
| 14:43.37 | bleeter | and seeing everyone ignored the only instructions given before the start of the game, we were losing anyways, so more frustrating than what it should've been |
| 14:44.04 | malreth | i don't play AV anymore |
| 14:44.11 | bleeter | malreth: I didn't make it back to the ally cave, but report in /bg was that horde were rezzing in there |
| 14:44.26 | bleeter | yeah, that was prolly my last game |
| 14:44.32 | malreth | since you get zero now for a losing game, it's not worth it |
| 14:44.49 | malreth | best to roll with a pre-made through AB and EotS |
| 14:44.53 | bleeter | yup |
| 14:49.23 | mikma | "So ... you're feeling like you wasted your time in game during holidays ? Well, some people are worse than you, and decided it would be fun to run Molten Core with ... 3 level 70 players." |
| 14:49.28 | mikma | go mmo-champion |
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| 14:50.22 | malreth | i've always thought they should turn MC, BWL, and Nax into soloable dungeons. |
| 14:53.36 | Lopeppeppy | That would be nice, I'd have something to do then. |
| 14:55.53 | malreth | for added effect, when you pull 4-5 mobs at a time, they circle around you and each attack you one at a time just like in martial arts movies |
| 14:56.04 | Cide | wouldn't work |
| 14:56.06 | malreth | that way you can feel like a HERO |
| 14:56.11 | Cide | given the uniqueness of classes |
| 14:56.22 | malreth | classes are unique? |
| 14:56.26 | Cide | but it'd be fun, I'll give you that |
| 14:56.51 | foxlit | Mages can't solo worth a damn :) |
| 14:57.03 | Cide | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:57.11 | foxlit | Meh, priests can heal themselves, at least |
| 14:57.13 | malreth | foxlit: wha-wha-what? |
| 14:57.16 | mikma | someone said there was talk around about 1man - 3man instances |
| 14:57.25 | Cide | mages can solo just fine :P |
| 14:57.35 | malreth | yeah... i agree |
| 14:57.37 | dabujo | Is there a way to reposition the standard blizzard floating combat text? |
| 14:57.37 | Lopeppeppy | Frost mages farm rings around me. |
| 14:58.38 | foxlit | Not the point - they have no way of regaining lost HP; can't get something else to offtank reliably and have generally crappy damage mitigation |
| 14:58.58 | malreth | yeah... i agree with that |
| 14:59.09 | malreth | but since the mobs are dead before they get to me... |
| 14:59.15 | foxlit | The only real way to solo anything beyond a level 70 mob would be to snare and kite, but that doesn't work on raid trash |
| 15:00.09 | foxlit | So you'd have to make MC pulls a virtual joke if they are to be soloable by mages :) |
| 15:01.39 | malreth | considering that my suggestion of a soloable MC was a virtual joke... :D |
| 15:01.52 | malreth | s/was/*was*/ |
| 15:02.59 | malreth | but i still don't see how you can say that mages can't solo |
| 15:03.18 | foxlit | Mages can't solo non-solo content :) |
| 15:03.37 | malreth | ~wiki tautology |
| 15:03.59 | foxlit | As opposed to say druids, who can solo non-solo content :) |
| 15:04.16 | malreth | i solo dire maul... does that count? |
| 15:04.30 | foxlit | Including prince? |
| 15:04.42 | malreth | no... just the east side... for fun once |
| 15:04.47 | malreth | also to get the key |
| 15:04.55 | malreth | i wasn't even 70 at the time |
| 15:04.56 | foxlit | Yeah, did that as well |
| 15:05.03 | foxlit | Finished the gauntlet quest too |
| 15:05.23 | foxlit | (prince is absolutely insane as far as melee damage output from 60 5-mans goes) |
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| 15:06.19 | Lunessa | ... station. |
| 15:06.27 | malreth | play |
| 15:06.30 | malreth | gas |
| 15:06.34 | malreth | train |
| 15:06.43 | malreth | ge |
| 15:06.50 | Lunessa | I used ... not ___. |
| 15:07.01 | malreth | gestation is funny |
| 15:13.07 | foxlit | in lua pattern matching, ? is greedy, right? |
| 15:14.45 | alestane | dabujo: You could make another mod that would relocate the Blizzard FCT...there's no built-in setting for it. |
| 15:15.26 | malreth | 'greedy' doesn't apply to an operator that only matches 0 or 1 or an occurrence |
| 15:15.56 | dabujo | alestane: That's what i was trying to do. But I found a way now. |
| 15:16.26 | dabujo | now I have to find out why the FCT font is so incredibly ugly |
| 15:16.32 | foxlit | malreth: ("no"):match("^n?(.+)"); |
| 15:17.00 | malreth | the capture should return "o" |
| 15:17.19 | foxlit | Which it does |
| 15:17.38 | Lunessa | dabujo: You can just override the fonts. See the Clearfont web site for instructions. |
| 15:17.43 | mikma | dabujo: http://wow-kyahx.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/KyCombatText/ |
| 15:17.53 | foxlit | So it behaves more like ("no"):match("^[n]*(.+)"); than ("no"):match("[n]-(.+)"); |
| 15:18.31 | mikma | that's kyahx's hack for Blizz FCT |
| 15:18.35 | dabujo | mikma: thats what I use. But I didn't repositon the frame so I did that |
| 15:18.47 | mikma | dabujo: yeah :O it doesn't :P |
| 15:18.48 | malreth | -->("nnno"):match("^n?(.+)"); |
| 15:18.48 | batbot | malreth: > nno |
| 15:18.57 | dabujo | Lunessa: I think Clearfont is what makes it ugly atm ;) |
| 15:19.01 | krka | the only ungreedy operator in lua patterns is - |
| 15:19.01 | malreth | -->("nnno"):match("^[n]*(.+)"); |
| 15:19.02 | batbot | malreth: > o |
| 15:19.15 | malreth | it doesn't behave like that at all |
| 15:19.46 | malreth | since * means 0 or more |
| 15:19.48 | foxlit | You're missing the point, unfortunately. |
| 15:19.53 | krka | ? is greedy 0 or 1 |
| 15:20.00 | krka | * is greedy 0 or more |
| 15:20.07 | krka | + is greedy 1 or more |
| 15:20.21 | krka | - is ungreedy 0 or more |
| 15:20.40 | Lunessa | dabujo: It's just a font override for the default game fonts. |
| 15:21.29 | dabujo | http://666kb.com/i/auyf5wmxw0c87g026.jpg |
| 15:21.33 | dabujo | thats what i mean |
| 15:21.42 | dabujo | no matter if clearfont is enabled or not |
| 15:23.17 | Lunessa | dabujo: See the STEP 2 on the page. *headdesk* |
| 15:24.03 | Lunessa | http://www.clearfont.co.uk/ |
| 15:25.25 | dabujo | I don't want to do that. I already changed the font myself but it doesnt help! It seems to be something about scaling |
| 15:25.47 | Lunessa | Well, then you're ... screwed. |
| 15:27.13 | Lunessa | heck I'm not even using Clearfont, and I use the instructions in Step 2 there to modify my in-game fonts to something more eye-pleasing. |
| 15:28.22 | malreth | dabujo: the answer is here: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_FontString_SetTextHeight |
| 15:28.36 | malreth | "Sets the height of the text. Note that this will distort the text because it enlarges the image rather than the font size." |
| 15:28.47 | dabujo | hmm |
| 15:29.17 | malreth | since they probably don't want to create a new font object for every possible size that the FCT could be, they probably just do a quick scale since it goes by so fast and won't be as noticable |
| 15:29.42 | dabujo | yep thats it |
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| 15:49.19 | clad|away | is there a forge in darnassus? |
| 15:49.28 | |pez | probably |
| 15:49.34 | alestane | A forge, yes. An anvil, no. |
| 15:49.41 | Lopeppeppy | Yes. Up by the warrior trainer, I believe? |
| 15:49.49 | alestane | Ask a guard for the weapon master. |
| 15:49.52 | Lopeppeppy | If not, I'm pretty sure there's one in Auberdine. |
| 15:50.12 | |Jelly| | Or the blacksmith trainer? |
| 15:50.32 | alestane | There is no blacksmith trainer, mining trainer or engineering trainer on Teldrassil. |
| 15:50.59 | alestane | All of those things are found in Auberdine...we're lucky Darnassus even gets a forge. |
| 15:51.11 | alestane | There are no mineral veins on Teldrassil either. |
| 15:51.40 | Lopeppeppy | Well... it's a tree..... |
| 15:51.45 | malreth | i'm surprised there are even caves... |
| 15:53.56 | Lunessa | They're aren't really cave so much as holes in the wood filled with dirt. |
| 15:55.40 | clad|away | it has veins |
| 15:55.42 | clad|away | i've mined them |
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| 15:55.46 | cladhaire | just uber rare |
| 15:56.15 | alestane | That's pretty uber-uber, yeah...I've never seen a one. |
| 15:57.48 | Lopeppeppy | Cladhaire is uber, we're not worthy. |
| 15:57.56 | cladhaire | yeah thats it :P |
| 16:00.01 | Lopeppeppy | I'm sure it is. |
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| 16:06.46 | |pez | Darnassus is the lost city of the alliance ;P |
| 16:07.30 | Lopeppeppy | No, that's Gnomeregan. *sniff* |
| 16:08.06 | Taeri | Nono, that's the city of leper gnoooomes |
| 16:10.20 | Lunessa | Teldrasil has plenty of copper veins. |
| 16:10.40 | Lunessa | Just no where to learn Mining. |
| 16:10.59 | Lopeppeppy | I'll show ya how to mine! Rawr! |
| 16:11.07 | Taeri | I like the orc/troll starting zone for copper. |
| 16:11.32 | Lopeppeppy | Gnome/dwarven is awesome for it. |
| 16:11.59 | |Jelly| | Oh Peppy! Show me how to mine! :P |
| 16:12.16 | zenzelezz | mine your own business |
| 16:12.45 | Lopeppeppy | Well, |Jelly|, you hold the pick just like *so*, and then you swing it, the point toward your object. Many people prefer to swing one-handed, but some will use their second hand for balance down near the end of the shaft of the pick.... |
| 16:13.45 | Lunessa | ... is anyone else finding this discussion more than slightly Freudian? |
| 16:14.18 | zenzelezz | you mean it's not supposed to be cleverly concealed sexual instructions? |
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| 16:14.34 | malreth | more like masturbation, really |
| 16:14.42 | Lunessa | *nod* |
| 16:14.43 | malreth | don't need a parter to swing your own pick |
| 16:14.53 | malreth | s/parter/partner/ |
| 16:15.03 | zenzelezz | masturbation is still sexual activity |
| 16:15.08 | Lunessa | wait, you need to hold out a hand for balance? WHOA |
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| 16:15.14 | malreth | no... it's sodomy |
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| 16:15.33 | zenzelezz | that's what the sissies want you to think malreth |
| 16:15.51 | malreth | i'm not listening to you, you plugger of filth |
| 16:15.59 | alestane | Here's a weird question...if a frame might not have a name, but I know where it will be stored in the environment, how can I watch for its creation? |
| 16:16.06 | Lopeppeppy | What about me, the originator of the filth? *giggle* |
| 16:16.18 | malreth | Lopeppeppy: you get turned into a pillar of salt |
| 16:16.22 | cladhaire | alestane: where _will_ it be storeD? |
| 16:16.26 | Lopeppeppy | I can dig that, malreth. |
| 16:16.37 | Lopeppeppy | Or rather, mine it. :P |
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| 16:16.52 | alestane | cladhaire: As a hypothetical example, Baternder3.actionbars[3] |
| 16:17.07 | alestane | er, Bartender3.actionbars[3] |
| 16:17.47 | cladhaire | you'd need to set a metatable on Bartender3.actionbars :P |
| 16:18.15 | alestane | __newindex? |
| 16:18.20 | Lunessa | alestane: are you waiting for the addon to be installed? I mean... otherwise its frames should be loaded into memory already. |
| 16:18.21 | cladhaire | and trigger it on __newindex |
| 16:18.51 | alestane | Lunessa: I'm not dealing specifically with Bartender, it was an example. It's for the update to Goose. |
| 16:19.11 | Lunessa | ah, capito. |
| 16:19.37 | alestane | Because Goose could load before some addon that creates a frame on which goose wants to set a driver. |
| 16:21.50 | alestane | The other idea that's occurring to me is to hooksecurefunc CreateFrame, and then a couple seconds later scan my list of any frames that I've been told to set up behaviors to see if there are any left outstanding and if any exist now that didn't before. |
| 16:23.05 | cladhaire | register for ADDON_LOADED |
| 16:23.17 | cladhaire | and check to see if the bartender object exists post ADDON_LOADED |
| 16:23.22 | cladhaire | set the metatable |
| 16:23.25 | cladhaire | in that case :P |
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| 16:23.49 | alestane | I need something generic though. |
| 16:24.30 | Esamynn|Work | make sure your metatable handler sets also uses rawset to set the frame into the index that the calling code tried to put it in |
| 16:24.44 | alestane | Goose doesn't know how other addons work, it relies on the user to tell it that the frame they want to show/hide is addressed through the name Bartender3.actionbars[3]. |
| 16:26.12 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 16:26.18 | cladhaire | dunno what Goose is, so tough for me to say |
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| 16:26.57 | Esamynn|Work | a Goose is a type of bird with a *bad* attitude and a nasty temper |
| 16:27.05 | alestane | It's a mechanism I created to allow dynamic hiding and showing, originally of the extra action bars, now of anything. |
| 16:27.17 | Taeri | geese(?) are cool birds. |
| 16:27.29 | Esamynn|Work | geese are vicious |
| 16:27.31 | Lunessa | I think I have reached the end of my UI & Macros support well, I keep looking for things to say "No" and |
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| 16:27.41 | Lunessa | "You can't do that" |
| 16:27.49 | Esamynn|Work | lol |
| 16:27.50 | [Liquidor] | I don't have a single bomb to spare. :-( |
| 16:28.26 | malreth | Goose was Maverick's RIO in Top Gun |
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| 16:29.25 | |Jelly| | Yeah. He died like a bitch. |
| 16:29.31 | cogwheel | Why would people rather jump through hoops to find my e-mail address than just POST YOUR FUCKING QUESTION ON THE FORUM! I mean... it's one thing if it's some complex question about state headers or macro options, but applying poison to a weapon in one click? :'( |
| 16:29.35 | Lunessa | And he was married to a character played by MEG RYAN. |
| 16:30.00 | Kalroth | cogwheel: plz, how u aply poisson 2 weppon???? |
| 16:30.01 | Lunessa | cogwheel: Block those people. Straight to your spam filter. |
| 16:30.44 | malreth | im no good w macros cn u plz rite 1 4 mee kthx |
| 16:31.16 | |Jelly| | ~sigh |
| 16:31.17 | purl | *sigh* |
| 16:31.30 | Lunessa | ~lart malreth |
| 16:31.30 | purl | strangles malreth with a 9-pole serial cable |
| 16:31.31 | |Jelly| | I hate people's faces off. |
| 16:31.50 | alestane | "I wish I could hate you to DEATH!" |
| 16:32.04 | |Jelly| | I bet I could make some of these asshole's noses bleed. |
| 16:32.12 | Lunessa | Much love for the Penny Arcade. |
| 16:32.43 | alestane | I got my dad the "Jesus says" t-shirt for Christmas...it made him laugh. |
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| 16:34.17 | |Jelly| | http://www.pennyarcademerch.com/pat070361.html do want |
| 16:34.19 | Lopeppeppy | I really want the fill-in-the-blank "I'm in your blank blanking your blank". I could see sooooo many uses. |
| 16:34.47 | Lunessa | ... FREUDIAN |
| 16:34.59 | Lopeppeppy | Duh? |
| 16:38.21 | Lunessa | Pilsbury Dough Peppy? |
| 16:38.33 | Lopeppeppy | I'm offended at the very idea! |
| 16:39.36 | Lunessa | me backs away slowly, be sure to show no signs of fear. |
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| 16:42.03 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3773278565&sid=1#6 <-- hate those people |
| 16:43.46 | Lunessa | Hate isn't a strong enough word. |
| 16:47.10 | Esamynn|Work | |Jelly|: perhaps I am missing the obvious here, why do you hate them? |
| 16:47.39 | |Jelly| | Irritates the hell out of me when people are all "qq i need moar buttons than you" |
| 16:47.56 | |Jelly| | As if they need every damned spell in their book on an action button or something. |
| 16:48.37 | MoonWolf | yes |
| 16:48.38 | MoonWolf | in fact |
| 16:48.42 | MoonWolf | i need all of them TWICE |
| 16:48.43 | Esamynn|Work | what? you don't? you mean you can cast from your spell book? |
| 16:48.45 | MoonWolf | MUHAHAHAHA |
| 16:48.48 | Esamynn|Work | </sarcastic> |
| 16:48.51 | Esamynn|Work | ~lart MoonWolf |
| 16:48.51 | purl | farts in MoonWolf's general direction |
| 16:50.08 | Lunessa | I think some people vastly over-think the buttons/spells they need access to. |
| 16:51.07 | MoonWolf | i have up / down /left / right q, e ,f ,r thats 8 * 2 (for shift) |
| 16:51.12 | MoonWolf | 16 buttons i use often |
| 16:51.20 | MoonWolf | the rest is all of lesser concern |
| 16:51.53 | |Jelly| | I dunno. Maybe I |
| 16:52.08 | Lunessa | What I want are numpad keys or arrow keys on the left side of my keyboard. |
| 16:52.09 | |Jelly| | 'm just not thinking like they do because I use Clique. :-\ |
| 16:53.02 | Esamynn|Work | Lunessa: get a G15 8) |
| 16:53.17 | Lunessa | It's not ERGO. |
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| 16:54.13 | Lunessa | Sorry, I have pretty harsh requirements for hardware - they limit my options based on my Carpal Tunnel Syndrome. |
| 16:54.29 | Esamynn|Work | ahh |
| 16:54.51 | Lopeppeppy | I love my little hot pack bean bags.... to die for. |
| 16:56.42 | |Jelly| | wtb |
| 16:56.45 | |Jelly| | it's like 44 here! |
| 16:56.47 | |Jelly| | :P |
| 16:58.58 | Lunessa | *headdesk* l2useStuffit |
| 16:59.06 | Lunessa | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3773498819&postId=37728602016&sid=1#4 |
| 17:00.42 | malreth | StuffIt sucks... Get The Unarchiver |
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| 17:07.42 | malreth | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3773248921&sid=1 |
| 17:08.40 | malreth | !c us Silver Hand Kyleigh |
| 17:08.42 | ThraeBot | malreth: Kyleigh, Level 70 Human Mage (5/0/56). 5743 HP; 7916 Mana; 177 mana regen; 63 mp5; 191 spell crit; 78 spell hit; 504 +spell dmg/heal; 179 frost dmg (683); 179 shadow dmg (683); 4.94% dodge; +18 all resists;[[ TBR: 1198 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2yd9nj ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2ks728 ][ Updated: Fri Jan 4 12:13:59 2008 EST ]] |
| 17:09.20 | mikma | malreth: hehe, nice flamethread |
| 17:09.37 | malreth | that thread shows promise |
| 17:10.21 | malreth | !vs us Silver Hand Kyleigh us Argent Dawn Lopeppeppy |
| 17:10.23 | ThraeBot | malreth: Kyleigh vs Lopeppeppy! A L70 mage and a L70 rogue square off!; 5/0/56 vs 15/41/5; Kyleigh wins by 32 TBRs! |
| 17:10.35 | malreth | my first win! |
| 17:12.22 | alestane | malreth: is it just me or is there something seriously wrong with those people? |
| 17:12.42 | mikma | !c eu burning legion mikma |
| 17:12.45 | ThraeBot | mikma: Mikma, Level 70 Gnome Mage (0/7/54). 8793 HP; 9266 Mana; 133 mana regen; 11 mp5; 171 spell crit; 27 spell hit; 630 +spell dmg/heal; 5.14% dodge; 234 resilience; 10 arcane resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1027 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/26srmp ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/325hro ][ Updated: Fri Jan 4 12:18:02 2008 EST ]] |
| 17:12.45 | malreth | it's not you. there is certainly something wrong with the world |
| 17:12.56 | malreth | and it is up to us to cleanse it |
| 17:13.02 | Lopeppeppy | Huzzah, malreth! Peppy needs gems on her new gear, maybe then she'll beat you! |
| 17:13.07 | malreth | starting with foxlit |
| 17:13.19 | alestane | I don't know if a pack of confused mages constitutes the world, but... |
| 17:13.26 | zenzelezz | I thought gems kept girls from beating up guys |
| 17:14.25 | Lunessa | !vs us Silver Hand Kyleigh us Kirin Tor Unkle |
| 17:14.27 | ThraeBot | Lunessa: I failed on the second listed character. You half-fail. |
| 17:14.57 | Lunessa | malreth: The Unarchiver, very nice. |
| 17:16.30 | TecnoBrat | lol |
| 17:16.31 | [Liquidor] | I don't have a single bomb to spare. :-( |
| 17:16.39 | TecnoBrat | stupid thing does it here too |
| 17:16.39 | malreth | it is... a suitable lightweight opensource replacement for the built in Archive Utility |
| 17:17.02 | Lopeppeppy | zenzelezz.... I'm not the "normal girl", you should figure that out Sometime Soon (tm). :) |
| 17:17.03 | TecnoBrat | Who would write a script that replies to "lol" with "I don't have a single bomb to spare. :-(" |
| 17:17.27 | Taeri | lol |
| 17:17.27 | [Liquidor] | I don't have a single bomb to spare. :-( |
| 17:17.43 | Taeri | maybe it bombs people. and says that when it errors out? |
| 17:17.43 | malreth | lol |
| 17:17.43 | [Liquidor] | I don't have a single bomb to spare. :-( |
| 17:17.46 | malreth | lol |
| 17:17.47 | [Liquidor] | I don't have a single bomb to spare. :-( |
| 17:18.02 | malreth | hmm... needs more flood protection |
| 17:18.35 | TecnoBrat | it started to get really annoying on wowhead, so I squelched him |
| 17:18.52 | zenzelezz | it would get utterly annoying in here |
| 17:19.39 | Lopeppeppy | Already is? |
| 17:23.08 | alestane | Anyone know if there's a component for Mac OSX that would cause it to treat archives as folders the way XP does? |
| 17:23.23 | malreth | hmm... |
| 17:23.34 | malreth | there are some quicklook modules for 10.5 |
| 17:23.37 | alestane | That would be teh aw3s0me. |
| 17:25.04 | malreth | http://macitbetter.com/BetterZip-Quick-Look-Generator |
| 17:25.16 | malreth | don't be confused by the Buy a License link on the right |
| 17:25.22 | malreth | that's for a different product |
| 17:26.53 | alestane | Looks cool, but Quick Look is a Leopard-only feature, right? |
| 17:28.32 | alestane | I wonder if you could do something like write a filesystem component and then mount the file... |
| 17:28.40 | Lopeppeppy | Leopard.... maybe I will one day have some Leopard. |
| 17:31.28 | alestane | Like they do with .dmg files. |
| 17:33.02 | malreth | perhaps something with MacFUSE |
| 17:33.10 | malreth | but i don't know of one off the top of my head |
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| 17:39.53 | alestane | It's not integrated but I did just find a fairly interesting little archive utility called Zipeg. |
| 17:40.04 | malreth | oh... |
| 17:40.08 | malreth | that's spyware |
| 17:40.31 | malreth | be careful... there's tons of spyware out there targeting mac users |
| 17:40.43 | malreth | everyone wants to be the first to 0wn a macbox |
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| 17:41.38 | malreth | i just got hacked this morning |
| 17:41.43 | malreth | and 4 times yesterday |
| 17:42.01 | Lunessa | port scans ftl? |
| 17:42.27 | malreth | they got me through my wireless |
| 17:42.36 | Lopeppeppy | Jeebus, malreth, get an internet condom or something! |
| 17:43.36 | malreth | Lopeppeppy: can't... the stupid wireless is internal. apple was stupid when they designed this laptop |
| 17:44.12 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, frell. *comforts* |
| 17:44.42 | Lunessa | malreth: I feel strangely comforted in the fact that no one bothers to hack me. |
| 17:45.21 | alestane | My search turns up lots of results for something called WinMount. |
| 17:45.50 | malreth | Lunessa: that's the advantage of using a VMS system... no one can figure the fucking thing out |
| 17:46.11 | Lunessa | hahah! love it. |
| 17:46.19 | malreth | "oh crap! i'm stuck and i CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO LOGS OUT!!" |
| 17:47.22 | malreth | Lopeppeppy: you should get the Woman's Guide to Social Engineering. It's quicker and easier and the fringe benefits are nice. |
| 17:48.09 | Lunessa | I think she's read that one. :) |
| 17:50.59 | Lopeppeppy | I would never. |
| 17:51.19 | malreth | yes you would... |
| 17:51.32 | malreth | you'd *do it* |
| 17:51.37 | malreth | everyone *does it* |
| 17:51.44 | malreth | it's good to be the king |
| 17:51.49 | Lopeppeppy | What is... "it" ? |
| 17:52.02 | Lunessa | It's /good/ to be the king. |
| 17:52.10 | Lunessa | I just did it and I want to do it. |
| 17:52.18 | Lunessa | BEST SCENE EVAR. |
| 17:52.33 | Esamynn|Work | ... |
| 17:53.00 | Lunessa | Mel Brooks: History of the World: Part 1 |
| 17:53.44 | Lunessa | ok, fooding... back shortly. |
| 17:55.34 | Taeri | I'm falling asleep! someone, lend me a lap! |
| 17:57.48 | Esamynn|Work | [09:44]<Lopeppeppy>Oh, frell. *comforts* <-- it's been a while since I heard that one, I miss Farscape |
| 17:59.19 | Lopeppeppy | I rather like Farscape, Esamynn. And of course Firefly. When you have littles in the family, you learn to use the cuss words they don't understand. :) |
| 18:01.22 | Taeri | Farscaaaaape! |
| 18:01.39 | Taeri | Aaah, I am cuddled :D |
| 18:05.39 | Duman | good lord it's windy+rainy |
| 18:06.27 | Taeri | It's windy and snowy here. |
| 18:06.57 | alestane | Any recommendations for an XML editor for Mac that actually does things like auto-indent or auto-complete? |
| 18:07.15 | MoonWolf | farscape made blue lack of boobs and weird white hair sexy. |
| 18:08.18 | Lopeppeppy | Dargo had sexy moments too, MoonWolf, for all of the tentacles and weirdness. |
| 18:08.40 | MoonWolf | dargo, maybe if your into men. |
| 18:09.07 | Taeri | I like Chiana. :o |
| 18:10.02 | MoonWolf | that would be the short version of what i said 2 lines ago |
| 18:11.22 | End | hrm, is require() supposed to return a boolean value? |
| 18:12.29 | Lopeppeppy | MoonWolf, I decidely am, and I hated the lead guy -- whiner much? |
| 18:12.54 | MoonWolf | he had a bit of an emo problem |
| 18:13.04 | MoonWolf | also the general, lead guy don't know how to handle relationships problem |
| 18:13.22 | Lopeppeppy | .../wrist, /martyr, /bored |
| 18:14.06 | zenzelezz | /golfclap |
| 18:14.14 | Lopeppeppy | Pretty much. |
| 18:17.48 | Taeri | Yeaaah |
| 18:17.54 | Taeri | he yelled too muuuch ;__; |
| 18:18.03 | Taeri | and his eyes always looked red. :o |
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| 18:19.21 | Lopeppeppy | Boozer, or druggie. |
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| 18:20.20 | Lunessa | back |
| 18:21.05 | Taeri | his eyes aren't that red when he's in Stargate SG1 |
| 18:21.22 | alestane | It's amazing to me that with all the incredible free software people have created for Macs, no-one seems interested in making a decent, "Mac-like" XML editor. Everything is either a commercial product, or looks kind of hacked-together. Are we just supposed to use Emacs or something? |
| 18:21.25 | Lopeppeppy | He wasn't taking the drugs then? |
| 18:21.35 | Taeri | point! |
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| 18:25.27 | End | heh, my character still is awaiting refresh on the armory :P |
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| 18:25.37 | alestane | Here's an awkward-looking line..."self.self = self" |
| 18:26.14 | End | uh, I guess you could do self.self.self.self.self.self.self == self? |
| 18:26.19 | End | :P |
| 18:35.21 | Esamynn|Work | O |
| 18:35.23 | Esamynn|Work | O_o |
| 18:35.57 | Esamynn|Work | Lopeppeppy: Firefly, now there is a tragic tale |
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| 18:36.55 | Taeri | seen one episode of that! |
| 18:37.03 | [dRaCo] | watch the rest |
| 18:37.04 | [dRaCo] | now! |
| 18:37.20 | Esamynn|Work | Taeri: seen the movie? |
| 18:37.26 | Taeri | Nuh |
| 18:37.30 | Lunessa | *sigh* That's right, bring your laptop in with less than 4% battery power and ask me why you can't get connected to the wireless network. *headdesk* |
| 18:37.37 | Esamynn|Work | get out, now, and don't come back until you have! :P |
| 18:37.51 | Esamynn|Work | ~comfort Lunessa |
| 18:37.52 | purl | There, there, Lunessa. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 18:38.07 | Taeri | Aww, Lunessaaa XD that sucks |
| 18:38.07 | Esamynn|Work | ~comfort Lunessa's desk |
| 18:38.09 | purl | There, there, Lunessa's desk. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
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| 18:40.25 | Lopeppeppy | RTFM, peoples... Ugh! No power = no workie. |
| 18:40.55 | Esamynn|Work | http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/rtfm.png |
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| 18:42.08 | Lunessa | I mean, really. It's like i had to explain to the woman who wanted to use her university issued laptop to connect to the internet wirelessly at home and in her car that wireless internet access wasn't universal. |
| 18:42.23 | alestane | "It must be you. The computer, it so happens, is user-friendly." |
| 18:42.43 | Lopeppeppy | ... why is she accessing the internet in her car? |
| 18:42.46 | Lunessa | She was like, "Well you guys take care of that." I'm all, "Not in your house or on the freeway we don't." |
| 18:43.07 | Lunessa | I don't know, and I don't care. Not my problem. :) |
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| 18:44.30 | Lunessa | What I need is another long lunch at Hayes Rd with good wine and a discussion about why political systems work or fail. |
| 18:45.29 | MentalPower | hey guys, I need a perl regex that will match everything except /index.php |
| 18:45.32 | Lopeppeppy | Or why fish swim against the current to rest. |
| 18:45.36 | MentalPower | what I have right now is "^/([^index.php])$" |
| 18:45.47 | MentalPower | but that does not seem to work |
| 18:46.34 | zenzelezz | I'm not familiar with perl regexes, but I thought anything inside [] can appear in any order; ie. not actually only match index.php but any of those letters? |
| 18:46.41 | Esamynn|Work | what do you mean by everything EXCEPT /index.php ? |
| 18:47.09 | Lunessa | He want's everything in the directory except index.php |
| 18:47.23 | Lunessa | s/want's/wants |
| 18:47.25 | [dRaCo] | why dont you just compare strings then? |
| 18:47.38 | MentalPower | cause I can't do that with apache :) |
| 18:47.45 | MentalPower | its a long story |
| 18:47.48 | nevcairiel | a regex for that would be awfully complex, i guess |
| 18:48.05 | Esamynn|Work | oh, apache config huh? |
| 18:48.09 | MentalPower | yeah |
| 18:48.15 | Fin | nah |
| 18:48.32 | Arrowmaster | i forget, do you have to escape the /? |
| 18:48.47 | nevcairiel | i think so |
| 18:48.57 | Lunessa | In PERL? Yes. |
| 18:49.04 | MentalPower | PCRE to be exact |
| 18:49.09 | Fin | .*(?!word) works |
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| 18:49.56 | Fin | (?! ... ) is "not followed by" |
| 18:50.49 | Esamynn|Work | Fin: I'm not familiar with ?! |
| 18:51.35 | Fin | Esamynn|Work: generally it's easier to match on index.php and only do one thing to that, rather than do something to everything except index.php, sort of thing |
| 18:52.17 | Esamynn|Work | indeed, I've just never heard of the ?! operator before |
| 18:52.30 | Esamynn|Work | I was gonna suggest (\/index.php){0} or something along those lines |
| 18:52.35 | MentalPower | I would agree, if apache was sane |
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| 18:53.20 | Fin | [mimi:pgl]:~ $ perl -e '$_ = "index.php"; print "y" unless /(?!)index\.php/' |
| 18:53.23 | Fin | y[ |
| 18:53.40 | Fin | what are you trying to do in apache? |
| 18:54.08 | Fin | er, that's wrong what I just pasted |
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| 18:54.17 | Fin | the index.php should be inside the ellipses |
| 18:54.21 | Esamynn|Work | lol |
| 18:54.22 | [Liquidor] | I don't have a single bomb to spare. :-( |
| 18:54.25 | Esamynn|Work | I was gonna say :P |
| 18:54.28 | Fin | but, what are you trying to do in apache? |
| 18:54.41 | Esamynn|Work | ~whalenuke [Liquidor] |
| 18:54.42 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around [Liquidor] with his mind powers. |
| 18:55.05 | Lopeppeppy | That "lol" thing is getting old quick. |
| 18:55.10 | Fin | I betcha there's a way to do what you want to do :) |
| 18:55.15 | Arrowmaster | http://perldoc.perl.org/perlre.html#Look-Around-Assertions |
| 18:55.31 | Fin | quick? QUICK?! |
| 18:55.43 | cladhaire | is there any way to get BC on a trial account? |
| 18:55.55 | Esamynn|Work | probably not |
| 18:55.58 | MentalPower | ok so I have this SVN server, and it requires authentication for everything, I want it so that if someone fails authentication they're sent to a different page instead of the default error message |
| 18:56.06 | MentalPower | cladhaire: nop |
| 18:56.11 | cladhaire | =( |
| 18:56.33 | Esamynn|Work | MentalPower: I think there would be a way to specify the error message page |
| 18:56.40 | Fin | ErrorDocument 401 error.html |
| 18:56.51 | Lunessa | MP - Apache allows you to set multiple error pages. |
| 18:56.53 | Arrowmaster | yeah use ErrorDocument 401 |
| 18:57.01 | Esamynn|Work | ~lart MentalPower |
| 18:57.01 | purl | offers MentalPower some herring |
| 18:57.13 | MentalPower | I know that |
| 18:57.41 | Fin | ErrorDocument 401 myerrorhandler.php # then just make myerrorhandler.php redirect somewhere |
| 18:58.02 | MentalPower | but since the error message for 401 is inside the svnparentpath I have this issue where the 401 page requires authentication to see |
| 18:58.15 | MentalPower | http://pastey.net/80038 |
| 18:58.19 | Fin | use a full path |
| 18:58.31 | Esamynn|Work | MentalPower: why does the error file have to be in the svn path? |
| 18:58.34 | Fin | you can do ErrorDocument 401 http://www.example.com/error.html |
| 18:58.38 | Fin | if you want |
| 18:58.38 | MentalPower | no you can't |
| 18:58.39 | Arrowmaster | dont do that |
| 18:58.53 | MentalPower | apache will ignore absolutes for 401s |
| 18:59.16 | Arrowmaster | if you include an http:// it will send it as a redirect anyway |
| 18:59.31 | Fin | uhm |
| 18:59.43 | MentalPower | Arrowmaster: no it won't it will ignore that directive when its loading |
| 19:00.00 | Fin | yeah, it's not *good* to do that |
| 19:00.10 | Arrowmaster | well if it was anything other than a 401 it would send a redirect |
| 19:00.20 | Esamynn|Work | MentalPower: could you use an alias to override the auth directive for that particular file? |
| 19:00.37 | Arrowmaster | try a sym link |
| 19:00.38 | MentalPower | Esamynn|Work: nop, the Location directive overrides the File one |
| 19:00.41 | Fin | and, yes, you can use http://www.example.com/error.html MentalPower |
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| 19:01.06 | Arrowmaster | try making a soft link to the file outside of the svn path |
| 19:01.15 | Fin | you can do an internal rewrite |
| 19:01.24 | MentalPower | Starting httpd: [Fri Jan 04 14:01:13 2008] [notice] cannot use a full URL in a 401 ErrorDocument directive --- ignoring! |
| 19:01.30 | Fin | if you want to get into the rewrite engine |
| 19:01.36 | Fin | it's so powerful |
| 19:01.39 | Fin | gives me the horn |
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| 19:02.04 | MentalPower | Arrowmaster: the actual file is outside the svn path in the server, but to the outside world its inside it |
| 19:02.10 | Fin | you must be using a version of Apache that doesn't support it then |
| 19:02.35 | Arrowmaster | try using an absolute path like /var/www/401.html |
| 19:02.40 | Fin | because I just checked in the docs and: |
| 19:02.41 | Fin | where the action can be, Text to be displayed. Wrap the text with quotes ("). An external URL to redirect to. A local URL to redirect to. |
| 19:04.09 | MentalPower | Fin: it works for everything except 401 |
| 19:04.17 | MentalPower | 403 500 404 you name it |
| 19:04.19 | MentalPower | except 401 |
| 19:04.48 | MentalPower | Arrowmaster: that is sent to the client as a relative URL that the client then appends to its current hostname |
| 19:05.05 | MentalPower | hence being inside the parentpath as far as apache is concerned |
| 19:05.26 | Arrowmaster | is that special for 401's then? |
| 19:05.41 | MentalPower | yup |
| 19:05.44 | Arrowmaster | because its suppost to send the contents of that file not redirect |
| 19:05.58 | zenzelezz | well, a 401 generally triggers a browser to display a login dialog |
| 19:07.49 | MentalPower | This server could not verify that you are authorized to access the document requested. Either you supplied the wrong credentials (e.g., bad password), or your browser doesn't understand how to supply the credentials required. Additionally, a 401 Authorization Required error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. |
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| 19:08.22 | Lopeppeppy | Additionally, yous uck. |
| 19:09.05 | zenzelezz | heh, seems the 401 error document may work... when you're logged in |
| 19:09.34 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, that's sparkly-fun. *laugh* |
| 19:10.50 | Fin | OK, so, personally I have never been a great fan of Apache's authentication mechanisms - I've wanted to do similar things before and had problems, so I ended up just rewriting the authentication stuff in a PHP lib |
| 19:10.59 | Fin | it made stuff like this much easier |
| 19:11.26 | Fin | one thing I could never figure out was how to disable authentication for subdirectories of a protected area |
| 19:11.37 | Fin | it's pretty simple btw, it's just a few headers and some hashing |
| 19:11.40 | MentalPower | zenzelezz: correct |
| 19:11.52 | Fin | ah, yeah, of course |
| 19:12.14 | Fin | because when you go to a protected directory, the browser always sends the 401 auth denied first, then prompts the user for a password |
| 19:12.47 | Fin | then next time, the browser just sends them automatically with the HTTP request |
| 19:13.07 | Fin | the wonders of stateless protocols |
| 19:14.51 | Fin | actually I'm still curious and I haven't checked in ages - does anyone know if there's a way to disable authentication for a subdirectory of somewhere that's had it enabled, using Apache's configuration? |
| 19:16.18 | Fin | guess not! :) |
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| 19:19.08 | MentalPower | so, anyways, back to my regex |
| 19:20.03 | [Liquidor] | Kaelten, ping |
| 19:20.05 | MentalPower | it doesn't seem to work |
| 19:20.14 | Kaelten | hi |
| 19:20.31 | [Liquidor] | Just got back home. It seems like I forgot to disable my alpha mIRC script. |
| 19:20.48 | Kaelten | hrm? |
| 19:20.52 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm-hmmm. |
| 19:20.53 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 19:20.54 | [Liquidor] | Banned from wowace |
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| 19:21.43 | Lunessa | that script is probably why. |
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| 19:22.15 | [Liquidor] | I know. I'm pinging Kaelten, since I know he's opped and TecnoBrat is afk |
| 19:22.20 | Fin | I think |
| 19:22.33 | Fin | you need to use RewriteURL, MentalPower |
| 19:22.53 | MentalPower | how? |
| 19:23.09 | MentalPower | wb Cairenn |
| 19:23.10 | Cairenn | Lopeppeppy: you have mail ;) |
| 19:23.14 | Cairenn | hi hi :) |
| 19:23.51 | Fin | MentalPower: can I just check, you want to have everything in a directory using authentication except for the index? |
| 19:24.00 | MentalPower | correct |
| 19:24.08 | Lopeppeppy | Cairenn, kthx! |
| 19:24.38 | Fin | but do you want the authentication to pop up for the index page as well? just if they don't have a username and password, show something nice? |
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| 19:25.03 | Fin | or, just have the index page unauthenticated completely |
| 19:26.08 | Fin | MentalPower: ? |
| 19:26.13 | MentalPower | doesn't matter really |
| 19:26.23 | Josh_Borke | gd tab |
| 19:26.35 | Fin | well, it might, if you wanted the index page to show different stuff for authenticated users, is why I was asking |
| 19:26.38 | MentalPower | the index.php is similar to this one http://svn.norganna.org/ |
| 19:26.48 | MentalPower | nop, its all the same |
| 19:30.26 | Fin | uhm, so, how I would do it is, to put everything in a subdirectory, and enable HTTP auth for that directory, then do RewriteURL !^/(index.html) /subdir/$1 |
| 19:30.32 | Fin | I *think* that would work |
| 19:30.41 | Fin | maybe not actually |
| 19:30.58 | Fin | I'm not sure if the ()s would capture something when you're negating the match |
| 19:31.09 | Esamynn|Work | MentalPower: could you use a Location directive like <Location /index.php> to override your auth requirement on the root? |
| 19:32.15 | MentalPower | Esamynn|Work: tried that one too |
| 19:32.17 | Esamynn|Work | or wait, you might want to make that a <Files> directive instead |
| 19:32.21 | Fin | it would be easier just to put everything under a subdirectory anyway |
| 19:32.33 | Fin | and just have the parent unauthenticated |
| 19:32.39 | Esamynn|Work | bah |
| 19:32.42 | Esamynn|Work | cop out! :P |
| 19:32.49 | MentalPower | then I can't use SVNParentPath |
| 19:33.03 | Fin | what does that do? I've not set up an SVN server with apache before |
| 19:33.17 | cladhaire | SVNParentPath is a cop-out |
| 19:33.20 | Esamynn|Work | MentalPower: yes, you could, you just move everything down one level, the svn parent path doesn't HAVE to be on the root ;) |
| 19:33.22 | cladhaire | but makes things easy :P |
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| 19:34.35 | Fin | what does it do? |
| 19:34.36 | Esamynn|Work | MentalPower: did you try placing the Location directive for index.php both before and after your one for the root? |
| 19:34.49 | MentalPower | Esamynn|Work: yup |
| 19:35.16 | Fin | er, s/rewriteurl/RewriteRule/i on everything above |
| 19:35.40 | cladhaire | is there a reasonably slim addon that will tell me what craft spells an item is a reagent for? |
| 19:35.59 | Fin | I don't see how it could be very slim :/ |
| 19:36.10 | Adys | Fin! |
| 19:36.10 | Adys | http://fury.com/aoliza/ |
| 19:36.14 | Adys | for you |
| 19:36.23 | Fin | non! sacre bleu! |
| 19:36.41 | Lunessa | cladhaire: the only thing I know that does it well is Informant, and that's not "slim" |
| 19:36.45 | Fin | aha, heh, I've seen this before actually, awesome :) :) |
| 19:36.48 | Esamynn|Work | MentalPower: a Files directive might be worth a shot |
| 19:36.54 | cladhaire | Lunessa: that's with auctioneer, right? |
| 19:36.57 | cladhaire | I'm already using that, in that case |
| 19:36.58 | Lunessa | Yes. |
| 19:37.01 | cladhaire | but it doesn't sem to show it |
| 19:37.08 | Adys | Fin: <3 |
| 19:37.22 | Esamynn|Work | other than that, I'm leaning towards moving the svn parent directory down a level and then using url re-writing |
| 19:37.27 | alestane | Heh, my first foray into loadstring. |
| 19:37.27 | Lunessa | Informant + Stubby - but I haven't used either in some time. |
| 19:37.30 | cladhaire | unless I have to configure something |
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| 19:37.34 | cladhaire | MentalPower: ping :P |
| 19:37.37 | Fin | you'd have to have a list of every reagent in the game and everything crafted item in the game, seems like it would be fairly hefty |
| 19:37.43 | MentalPower | cladhaire: pong! |
| 19:37.48 | cladhaire | Fin: i know mendeleev used to do it |
| 19:38.00 | cladhaire | MentalPower: does informant tell me what recipes a reagent is for? |
| 19:38.27 | Fin | Adys: aren't you Jynxy? or am I misremembering your alts? |
| 19:38.30 | MentalPower | I don't think so, only what professions |
| 19:38.34 | Esamynn|Work | cladhaire: it lists professions |
| 19:38.38 | Adys | Fin, Jexxy you mean? |
| 19:38.38 | cladhaire | okay |
| 19:38.40 | cladhaire | thanks |
| 19:38.46 | Adys | Jexxy is one of my alts, Jynxy is not |
| 19:38.56 | Fin | Adys: ahaa, that' sit |
| 19:38.59 | Fin | -typo |
| 19:39.00 | Fin | thanks |
| 19:39.03 | cladhaire | i guess thats a start! |
| 19:39.25 | Fin | cladhaire: Mendeleev still does it, btw |
| 19:40.01 | Lunessa | clad mendelev and periodic table might be what you want too, but that's also pretty big. |
| 19:40.04 | cladhaire | aye |
| 19:40.33 | Fin | s'what I've got |
| 19:40.37 | Fin | it's neat, actually |
| 19:40.55 | Fin | it shows how many of that reagent are used in the item that's being crafted, as well |
| 19:41.19 | Fin | and by default it only shows a list of professions it's used in + the items that character can actually craft themselves |
| 19:41.23 | Lunessa | Yeah, I used it for a while. :) Handy. |
| 19:41.24 | Fin | but holding shift shows the full list |
| 19:41.39 | Fin | (which is pretty long for things like Runecloth, heh :) |
| 19:41.51 | Fisker- | bah |
| 19:41.55 | Fisker- | cockwheel is mvp |
| 19:42.07 | nevcairiel | he is? |
| 19:42.10 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 19:42.16 | nevcairiel | since when? |
| 19:42.20 | Fisker- | since 5 minutes ago |
| 19:42.21 | nevcairiel | he cant flame anymore ? :P |
| 19:42.23 | Fisker- | get with the program |
| 19:42.23 | Fisker- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3773499402&postId=37729003185&sid=1#0 |
| 19:42.38 | nevcairiel | uh peppy too |
| 19:42.45 | Cairenn | yup yup :) |
| 19:42.46 | Lunessa | Yay Peppy! |
| 19:42.51 | Lunessa | Yay Alestane |
| 19:43.03 | Cairenn | congrats you guys |
| 19:43.08 | Fisker- | being mvp just means moar trolling |
| 19:43.10 | nevcairiel | pure cogwheel, now he has to behave |
| 19:43.12 | Fisker- | btw |
| 19:43.18 | Fisker- | why are drysc posting it and not tyren? :o |
| 19:43.21 | nevcairiel | s/pure/poor/ |
| 19:44.03 | alestane | I just wish it didn't mean I have to be a devilsaur. |
| 19:44.37 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 19:44.47 | alestane | grats peppy and cogs. |
| 19:45.08 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+vcog alestane Lopeppeppy] by Cairenn |
| 19:45.15 | Cairenn | grrr |
| 19:45.22 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+v cogwheel] by Cairenn |
| 19:45.25 | alestane | Aw, thank you Cairenn. |
| 19:45.27 | zenzelezz | :-o |
| 19:45.31 | alestane | I feel all important now. |
| 19:45.32 | zenzelezz | peppy in power |
| 19:45.33 | [Liquidor] | Grats cogwheel |
| 19:45.35 | malreth | nevcairiel: no he doesn't... :p |
| 19:46.09 | Cairenn | had to wait for it all to be official before I could bump you guys in here ;) |
| 19:46.18 | [Liquidor] | you as well Lopeppeppy |
| 19:46.24 | [Liquidor] | just don't know you :$ |
| 19:46.31 | zenzelezz | "bumping" peppy, eh? |
| 19:46.52 | alestane | Yeah, had to bite my tongue not to say anything about it yesterday. |
| 19:48.51 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr. *giggle* |
| 19:49.18 | Lunessa | ZOMG ... gnomish Dinosaurs! *ph34r* |
| 19:49.34 | Lopeppeppy | Totally. I'll bite your ankles off! |
| 19:53.44 | Lunessa | I'm very happy for all three of you. I'll just have to settle for being oddly comforted that while he's not President, Cogwheel is at least an MVP and my campaign worked. ;) |
| 19:54.08 | Lopeppeppy | Did Cogwheel lose Iowa? I hear that's the key state. |
| 19:56.12 | Lunessa | He lost Gnomeregan, and it carried huge numbers of electoral votes. |
| 19:56.52 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah. *wince* No wonder neither of us won, without our gnomish peoples behind us. |
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| 20:00.07 | Lunessa | And it's really hard to carry the Night Elf vote, they're so aloof. |
| 20:00.37 | Lopeppeppy | Yes, but Pep's husband (remember, I'm on an RP server) is a Kaldorei, you'd think he'd do some lobbying. |
| 20:00.41 | malreth | and since they stopped having children, that whole "family values" thing is lost on them |
| 20:01.46 | MentalPower | Fin: RewriteURL !^/(index.html) /subdir/$1 works to unprotect that file, now I need another to remove the redirected subfolder from the path |
| 20:01.48 | Lunessa | I bet you could carry the Dwarven Vote by a little judicious mailbox dancing in IronForge. |
| 20:01.54 | Esamynn|Work | Lopeppeppy, alestane, cogwheel: my sympath....err condol...errr, Congratulations to you 3 on your new status 8) |
| 20:02.09 | End | hehe |
| 20:02.10 | alestane | You get the feeling that only humans and orcs actually ever have kids. |
| 20:02.27 | malreth | i've seen blood elf and goblin children |
| 20:02.27 | alestane | And that's just because of the orphans. |
| 20:02.45 | malreth | and in the shattrath orphanage you can see a dwarf baby |
| 20:02.46 | alestane | There are a few counterexamples. |
| 20:02.47 | Lopeppeppy | Maybe that's true, alestane, and there's a secret goblin genetic program that mutates the children after they are born! *gasp* |
| 20:03.14 | End | if by mutates, you mean blows up, then yes, there is |
| 20:03.16 | alestane | And that little draenei girl from Children's week was cute as a button. |
| 20:03.41 | End | and it isn't always the exploding sort of blows up...sometimes it is the gets much larger blows up |
| 20:03.41 | Lopeppeppy | I should collect more buttons, they can clean under the furniture more easily. |
| 20:04.05 | alestane | There's a little dwarf girl chasing a rabbit outside Amberstill ranch, and the sick night elf tweenager in Astranaar. |
| 20:04.21 | alestane | If there are any gnome children then I think the must be too small to see. |
| 20:04.31 | Esamynn|Work | indeed |
| 20:04.47 | malreth | alestane: the sick night elf... you mean the topless one? |
| 20:04.53 | End | that does make me curious...we don't see gnome or dwarf kiddies |
| 20:04.56 | Esamynn|Work | they're probably all sterile after the incident in Gnomregan |
| 20:05.14 | End | and both are of the ...short ..kind |
| 20:05.15 | Lopeppeppy | Pep has always feared that.... |
| 20:05.30 | malreth | End: ^^^ and in the shattrath orphanage you can see a dwarf baby |
| 20:05.34 | End | you can? |
| 20:05.39 | alestane | malreth: not that I noticed, she's lying sick in one of the houses while her father asks you to run all over Ashenvale collecting things to make her better. |
| 20:05.40 | End | interesting... |
| 20:05.57 | malreth | alestane: yeah... for some reason, the model is completely topless |
| 20:06.03 | malreth | well, at least it was |
| 20:06.11 | malreth | i haven't checked in like a year |
| 20:10.23 | MentalPower | Fin: any ideas? |
| 20:12.30 | Lunessa | malreth: still is. |
| 20:12.44 | malreth | man... night elves are messed up |
| 20:12.52 | Lopeppeppy | You're just figuring that out? |
| 20:13.09 | Fisker- | didn't anyone mention topless animated characters? |
| 20:13.23 | Fisker- | s/didn't anyone/did someone/ |
| 20:13.50 | malreth | she's probably only barely 500 years old and her father refuses to buy her a shirt |
| 20:14.50 | Esamynn|Work | malreth: now now, us elves only have a life span of a few thousand years now that we aren't linked to the World Tree anymore.... |
| 20:14.51 | Lopeppeppy | Or she's wearing one of those transparent dock worker tank tops that i like so much on Pep for swimwear. |
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| 20:37.11 | Fin | MentalPower: there's a flag for RewriteURL to make it do an internal redirect |
| 20:37.20 | Fin | check the rewrite engine docs |
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| 20:41.39 | Fisker- | oh u Fin |
| 20:42.43 | alestane | Lunessa: Just confirmed that the new kernel for Goose works...any frame, any conditions. |
| 20:43.26 | malreth | what did you end up doing, alestane? |
| 20:43.33 | Lunessa | WOOT |
| 20:43.36 | alestane | Want your minimap to disappear in combat? Check. Want your action bars to vanish while mounted? Check. Want it to work if third-party mods? Uh, I think so. |
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| 20:45.09 | alestane | malreth: Whenever a new frame is created, if it has outstanding assignments for frames that don't exist yet, it starts a one-second countdown (which does NOT reset if more frames are created), after which it scans its list again and assigns any that have come into being since last time. |
| 20:45.35 | malreth | sounds awesome |
| 20:46.20 | alestane | Now I just need to write a UI for configuring it, which will of course take five times as long as the actual kernel. |
| 20:47.29 | malreth | all UIs are good for are getting people who you don't like to use your addon |
| 20:47.41 | cogwheel | stupid storm |
| 20:47.52 | alestane | cogwheel: ? |
| 20:48.03 | alestane | Oh, your promotion? |
| 20:48.08 | alestane | Grats BTW. |
| 20:48.12 | cogwheel | you too :) |
| 20:48.22 | cogwheel | and peppy |
| 20:48.41 | cogwheel | (now that i can gratz you publicly ;) ) |
| 20:49.21 | Antiarc | What promotion? |
| 20:49.33 | Antiarc | Green-texted? |
| 20:49.41 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr-green-dinosaurs! |
| 20:49.45 | cogwheel | rawr |
| 20:49.47 | Antiarc | Congrats :D |
| 20:49.50 | Gryphen | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 20:50.05 | cogwheel | Cairenn: topic needs a link imo :P |
| 20:50.34 | laindir | ...and cookies >.> |
| 20:50.51 | malreth | that... |
| 20:50.55 | malreth | that was really quick |
| 20:51.30 | Cairenn | he has a macro that anytime his name is emoted, it reverses the emote |
| 20:51.45 | Cairenn | rawr |
| 20:51.50 | Gryphen | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 20:51.56 | malreth | we basically meaty manchest 69'ed each other |
| 20:52.18 | Lopeppeppy | Yerk... On that note, malreth, you've quite scared me off. See y'all later on! |
| 20:52.29 | Cairenn | bye Lopeppeppy, grats again |
| 20:52.30 | Thunder_Child | no kidding Lopeppeppy |
| 20:52.41 | Cairenn | Gryphen: :) |
| 20:52.43 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Lopeppeppy (n=Lopeppep@cpe-72-230-38-163.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 20:52.45 | Josh_Borke | ~hug Gryphen |
| 20:52.45 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs Gryphen |
| 20:52.52 | Cairenn | that one was the real Gryphen |
| 20:52.55 | Gryphen | hehe |
| 20:53.18 | malreth | I have now learned Lopeppeppy's limits... |
| 20:53.19 | alestane | You knew someone was bound to try it... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3773309516&sid=1 |
| 20:53.29 | malreth | haha! |
| 20:53.35 | buu | What is a going on here?! |
| 20:53.42 | Josh_Borke | alestane: goose? |
| 20:53.55 | alestane | Gander? |
| 20:54.02 | malreth | MAVERICK!!! |
| 20:55.06 | Fin | [21:47:33] <malreth> all UIs are good for are getting people who you don't like to use your addon |
| 20:55.28 | Fin | words of a person who can't make a good UI themselves, tut |
| 20:55.30 | Fin | such bitterness |
| 20:55.56 | malreth | Hey... SetQuestSpeed has a beautiful interface. |
| 20:56.15 | malreth | With such wonderful verbage as "Pokey" and "Scootin'" |
| 20:56.18 | Fin | I may just install it to test that claim |
| 20:56.46 | Josh_Borke | what is goose? |
| 20:56.47 | buu | alestane: ""That's the great thing about being a 'lock...you don't have to eat; you don't have to drink; you don't even have to BREATHE. You can subsist entirely on the suffering of your" |
| 20:56.56 | Josh_Borke | (03:42:43 PM) alestane: Lunessa: Just confirmed that the new kernel for Goose works...any frame, any conditions. |
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| 20:57.24 | malreth | buu: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7160-Goose.html |
| 20:57.48 | buu | malreth: What? |
| 20:58.01 | malreth | oh... sorry.. that was for Josh_Borke |
| 20:58.02 | alestane | Josh_Borke: Goose is a UI Controller add-on that hides and shows various elements of the UI when certain things happen like entering combat. |
| 20:58.11 | Josh_Borke | ok |
| 20:58.14 | Josh_Borke | for secure stuff? |
| 20:58.31 | malreth | Fin: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6769-SetQuestSpeed.html |
| 20:58.44 | malreth | it's been awarded one whole star |
| 20:58.51 | malreth | so you know that it is quality |
| 20:59.05 | Fin | what level of quality, I have yet to find out |
| 20:59.14 | malreth | one star quality |
| 20:59.19 | malreth | like Texas |
| 20:59.21 | alestane | The current version only handles the blizzard multi-bars, and only for [combat], [stealth] and [mounted]...the version under development will show or hide any frame, for any macro-testable condition. |
| 20:59.22 | Fin | wtf is that image, jesus :) |
| 20:59.31 | kd3 | grats to the three of you |
| 20:59.37 | kd3 | bah, if only I hadn't frozen my account over the break |
| 20:59.39 | Fin | alestane: you should look at Modality's code, maybe |
| 20:59.49 | alestane | What's Modality? |
| 20:59.50 | Fin | Modality is the shit |
| 20:59.59 | Fin | it does what you want to do for any frame, for Bartender3 |
| 21:00.20 | Fin | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=9055.0 |
| 21:00.33 | Fin | http://wowace.com/wiki/Modality |
| 21:00.38 | alestane | Well, I've got the engine working now. I can enter any frame in the SavedVariables file for Goose and it'll work. |
| 21:00.53 | alestane | I just need to write a user interface so people can set it up. |
| 21:01.06 | Fin | but yours only supports a limited set of conditionals |
| 21:01.10 | Fin | no? |
| 21:01.37 | alestane | The current version does, but now I've made it work with anything you can use to select in a macro. |
| 21:02.02 | alestane | Thanks for the info...it just sounds like I'm past the point at which it would help. |
| 21:02.34 | Fin | well, good luck with finishing Goose, it sounds like something I would want to use :) |
| 21:02.46 | Fin | any rough idea of when you'll have the rest of the conditionals implemented? |
| 21:03.10 | alestane | In something uploadable? About a week or so probably. |
| 21:03.27 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3773499402&postId=37728705934&sid=1#25 |
| 21:04.19 | Fin | congratulations! |
| 21:04.51 | Fin | (to the new forum MVPs) |
| 21:04.57 | alestane | Thanks kd3. |
| 21:04.58 | Josh_Borke | grats new MVPs |
| 21:05.17 | deltron | nice! |
| 21:07.27 | alestane | I love it when you give someone help, they ignore you and wrangle over it for half a dozen posts, and then basically arrive at your solution. |
| 21:07.42 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> #wowi-lounge: Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.3.x ToC: 20300 | Congrats Alestane, Cogwheel & Lopeppeppy, new MVPs - http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3773499402&sid=1 |
| 21:07.50 | kd3 | ok. wth? |
| 21:07.53 | kd3 | http://wowi.pastey.net/80045 |
| 21:07.57 | kd3 | notice the dates |
| 21:08.00 | Lunessa | alestane: Welcome to the world I live in all day every day. |
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| 21:09.11 | alestane | Lunessa: Oh, I've been there. I used to do customer service at Radio Shack. |
| 21:09.36 | Lunessa | You made it through? YWe are the same McCloud. We are BROTHERS! |
| 21:10.01 | alestane | WIth us, what usually happened was that someone wanted something, but they didn't like the price on your first solution, so they insist there's another way. |
| 21:10.10 | alestane | Five years under the Circle-R. |
| 21:10.16 | Lunessa | Oh man. |
| 21:10.33 | alestane | Been out about 15 months now. |
| 21:11.23 | Lunessa | I used to write code for a very large internet company back in the day. But before I did that, I was a network support guy, then tech support for the same internet company, now I just 'do' support and training/tech-writing for a university. |
| 21:16.59 | kergoth | i did unix tech support for 3 years.. was horrible. i remember trying to walk an elementary school cafeteria lady through using vi to edit /etc/inittab on an 8 year old SCO unix box |
| 21:18.41 | Esamynn|Work | kergoth: eerrrr.... uhhhhh, I am at a loss for words, that story is terrifying |
| 21:21.39 | Lunessa | I just have to tell people that when the battery is low on their laptop, wireless connectivity is one of the first things to go. |
| 21:22.33 | Matrix110 | omfg |
| 21:22.39 | Matrix110 | warcraftrealm drawings |
| 21:22.53 | Matrix110 | 6337 won i got 6338 ticket |
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| 21:24.33 | Esamynn|Work | ~cookie Matrix110 |
| 21:24.48 | Matrix110 | purl fails |
| 21:24.49 | purl | I fail? I FAIL? NO, YOU FAIL!!! |
| 21:24.58 | Esamynn|Work | haha |
| 21:25.01 | Esamynn|Work | ~botsnack |
| 21:25.01 | purl | Esamynn|Work: thanks |
| 21:25.33 | Thunder_Child | purl, hurt Esamynn|Work |
| 21:25.33 | purl | ACTION takes a large hammer and plays whack-the-mole on Esamynn|Work's hands, laughing all the while |
| 21:25.48 | Esamynn|Work | ~bzfrag Thunder_Child |
| 21:25.48 | purl | ACTION blindsides Thunder_Child with an invisible bullet |
| 21:26.05 | malreth | purl, jump Esamynn|Work |
| 21:26.06 | purl | ACTION scrambles up the nearest tree, screams, then leaps feet first on top of Esamynn|Work |
| 21:26.23 | Esamynn|Work | ~cheeseslap malreth |
| 21:26.24 | purl | ACTION slaps malreth around with a piece of swiss |
| 21:26.45 | zenzelezz | ~emulate zenzelezz |
| 21:26.45 | purl | OMG STOP TALKIN TO TEH BOT! |
| 21:26.45 | malreth | ~whaleslap Esamynn|Work |
| 21:26.46 | purl | ACTION beats Esamynn|Work upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
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| 21:26.59 | Esamynn|Work | ~whaleparry malreth |
| 21:27.00 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry malreth's attacks. |
| 21:27.02 | Thunder_Child | zenzelezz, we dont want to hear from you |
| 21:27.10 | malreth | ~whalenuke Esamynn|Work |
| 21:27.10 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Esamynn|Work with his mind powers. |
| 21:27.21 | Esamynn|Work | ~whaleshield me |
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| 21:27.24 | zenzelezz | Thunder_Child: did you see me ask if you did? |
| 21:27.29 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn|Work, -me |
| 21:27.47 | Esamynn|Work | ~whaleshield -me |
| 21:27.50 | Thunder_Child | zenzelezz, you didnt have to ask |
| 21:27.51 | Thunder_Child | ... |
| 21:27.58 | Thunder_Child | just whaleshelid Esamynn|Work |
| 21:28.02 | Esamynn|Work | :P |
| 21:28.06 | Thunder_Child | whaleshield* |
| 21:28.06 | Esamynn|Work | ~whaleshield Esamynn|Work |
| 21:28.16 | Thunder_Child | ~stupid Esamynn|Work |
| 21:28.16 | malreth | ~fail Esamynn|Work |
| 21:28.17 | purl | Esamynn|Work: Fail. |
| 21:28.33 | Esamynn|Work | ~literal whaleshield |
| 21:28.34 | purl | "whaleshield" is "<action> summons a rather dense leaden whale named Billy Bob to shield $who from the blast." |
| 21:28.37 | Thunder_Child | ~shield Esamynn|Work |
| 21:28.43 | Esamynn|Work | ahh |
| 21:28.49 | Esamynn|Work | ~whaleshield |
| 21:28.50 | purl | ACTION summons a rather dense leaden whale named Billy Bob to shield esamynn|work from the blast. |
| 21:29.01 | Thunder_Child | took you long enough to get it |
| 21:29.17 | Esamynn|Work | no kidding |
| 21:29.23 | Esamynn|Work | I was a little thick there |
| 21:29.28 | malreth | those seconds can cost LIVES! |
| 21:29.30 | Thunder_Child | though i suppose i could learn to use a , |
| 21:29.39 | Esamynn|Work | ~lart Thunder_Child |
| 21:29.39 | purl | slaps Thunder_Child upside the head with a wet fish |
| 21:29.47 | Thunder_Child | mmm...fish |
| 21:29.52 | malreth | ~jerg |
| 21:29.53 | purl | ACTION knarged his flarg! |
| 21:29.59 | Esamynn|Work | O_o |
| 21:30.15 | Esamynn|Work | ~fishslap malreth |
| 21:30.16 | purl | ACTION slaps malreth up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 21:30.19 | malreth | ~berg |
| 21:30.20 | purl | somebody said berg was an ugly blond dolt who has a receding hair line and a jew nose. |
| 21:30.28 | malreth | nope... wrong one |
| 21:30.32 | Esamynn|Work | haha |
| 21:31.51 | malreth | ~herg |
| 21:31.59 | malreth | hmm... |
| 21:32.01 | malreth | oh well |
| 21:32.10 | Esamynn|Work | ~fail malreth |
| 21:32.11 | purl | malreth: Fail. |
| 21:32.15 | Thunder_Child | malreth you fail |
| 21:32.17 | malreth | i do |
| 21:34.29 | Esamynn|Work | LOL at today's Penny Arcade Comic |
| 21:36.56 | Thunder_Child | xkcd on the other hand feels like an 8th grader wrote it |
| 21:37.39 | Esamynn|Work | no kidding |
| 21:38.05 | Thunder_Child | err.. todays anyway |
| 21:38.18 | Esamynn|Work | now, the last 2 Ctrl-Alt-Delete comics before today, have had me laughing since I read them |
| 21:40.35 | zenzelezz | I find CAD scary... Ethan reminds me too much about one of my friends |
| 21:40.50 | Esamynn|Work | I love it |
| 21:43.22 | End | if you read today's penny arcade comic's news blurb, apparently that DS was actually supposed to go Child's Play |
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| 21:43.39 | End | (and by news blurb I mean long winded post Tycho always does :P) |
| 21:44.54 | foxlit | arg is a lua keyword? |
| 21:45.04 | Taeri | arg = argument? :P |
| 21:45.25 | foxlit | well, yes; the question is why does TextMate highlight it :P |
| 21:45.34 | End | it used to be used for varargs |
| 21:45.49 | End | 5.1 did away with that, as you are probably aware of |
| 21:48.14 | Lunessa | " WELCOME AND GRATS! Helping hands are always needed. You three are some of the few i dont have on ignore on these forums. Thankyou for all your hard work." Talk about your back-handed compliment. |
| 21:48.38 | Esamynn|Work | End: I guess EA should have know better than to send the two items in the same package... |
| 21:49.18 | End | I wonder if they were both supposed to child's play |
| 21:49.48 | End | well, it says review copy though |
| 21:49.56 | End | so probably just the DS |
| 21:49.59 | End | makes me wonder though... |
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| 21:51.12 | Esamynn|Work | someone in their shipping department probably decided to "save some money" by combining the items |
| 21:51.23 | End | I guess |
| 21:51.35 | End | seems weird though |
| 21:51.50 | Esamynn|Work | indeed |
| 21:52.07 | End | since the DS seems very distinctly from carmack, but the game seems like promotional material from EA |
| 21:52.30 | End | (of course, the game -is- carmack's game) |
| 21:54.35 | Thunder_Child | "New NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GX2 Has 2 Processors, 1GB Memory" want |
| 21:55.28 | Taeri | tummyacheextreeeme! |
| 21:55.29 | bleeter | alestane, cogwheel, lopeppeppy: grats guys |
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| 21:56.00 | bleeter | er s/guys/folks/, just to be safe ;) |
| 21:58.00 | Lunessa | 9800 GX2 - fry eggs and bacon with waste heat while playing WoW. |
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| 22:00.12 | haste | Lunessa: http://www.phys.ncku.edu.tw/~htsu/humor/fry_egg.html comes to mind |
| 22:01.00 | zenzelezz | http://frostfirehive.com/montana-state-trooper |
| 22:01.47 | Lunessa | lol |
| 22:02.50 | Lunessa | http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hXGxOexC3J1RY9MGQAcP-dLZ_INAD8TQL7A80 |
| 22:04.42 | zenzelezz | when one of the local post offices closed, their post office boxes were moved to another office and people from the old one had to get new box numbers... one guy was very angry about this, until he was given box 666... then he was very satisfied after all |
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| 22:05.40 | End | they attach too much signficance to numbers methinks |
| 22:05.50 | End | my parents number starts with 666 too :P |
| 22:07.06 | End | ah, apparently that's their area code though |
| 22:07.14 | End | which makes more sense I guess |
| 22:07.17 | End | (but still...) |
| 22:16.57 | Rayne | :| |
| 22:23.43 | foxlit | "invalid key to 'next'" |
| 22:24.37 | foxlit | there goes my blissful ignorance of how that works |
| 22:26.44 | Cide | next(tbl, ["key"]) returns the key and value of the key following the passed "key" argument, or the first key/value pair if nothing is passed |
| 22:27.18 | foxlit | [http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-next] |
| 22:27.35 | Cide | right |
| 22:30.44 | foxlit | still get an "invalid key to 'next'" error; I'm guessing it's from me removing keys from a table being iterated over with for... in pairs |
| 22:32.00 | cladhaire | you can remove |
| 22:32.02 | cladhaire | you can't add |
| 22:32.16 | foxlit | Then it makes no sense :/ |
| 22:32.17 | alestane | means next is being called with a key that is not in the table. Funny thing though, is you can use "for key in pairs(t) do t[key] = nil end" and it seems to work fine. |
| 22:32.41 | cladhaire | that's not what the error message means, exactly |
| 22:32.48 | cladhaire | but yeah |
| 22:32.59 | Cide | you removed the current key |
| 22:33.05 | Cide | and then passed it to next() |
| 22:33.11 | cladhaire | yes |
| 22:33.13 | cladhaire | the "next" key |
| 22:33.22 | Cide | i.e. |
| 22:33.41 | Cide | tbl["foo"] = nil; next(tbl, "foo") -- error |
| 22:33.42 | cladhaire | lua> t = {1,2,3} for k,v in pairs(t) do t[2] = nil end |
| 22:33.42 | lua_bot | cladhaire: |
| 22:33.51 | cladhaire | but non-deterministically :P |
| 22:34.24 | cladhaire | to be honest tho, every time i thought i was doing things right.. I wasn't :P |
| 22:34.28 | cladhaire | i was adding elemenst to the table |
| 22:34.33 | cladhaire | which strangely gives the same error |
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| 22:35.04 | foxlit | They don't define what the behavior of next is if you do that; there's no real reason it should crash :/ |
| 22:35.42 | cladhaire | it doesn't crash, it gives you an error :P |
| 22:35.48 | cladhaire | so you shouldn't do that! |
| 22:36.11 | foxlit | ah, ouch |
| 22:36.18 | foxlit | It wasn't the right for loop I was looking at |
| 22:36.53 | foxlit | Hey, only about 160 lines off, in a 200 line script |
| 22:37.09 | cladhaire | hah |
| 22:38.28 | foxlit | But okay, I still want to remove that index. |
| 22:39.50 | cladhaire | are you absolutely and 100% positive that nothing is being added to the table during the iteration? |
| 22:40.06 | cladhaire | because the manual states that what you're doing is just fine. |
| 22:40.11 | cladhaire | and that's my experience. |
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| 22:40.44 | foxlit | No, I'm not. That table is absolutely mutilated by code that could run while it's being iterated over |
| 22:41.11 | Cide | mutilated tables.. mm... |
| 22:41.19 | foxlit | In fact, yes, I add as well as remove from it |
| 22:41.29 | Fin | foxlit: that URL is specifically the reason I made Luai, so I wouldn't have to load the whole manual if I wanted to read only a specific part (ie, so I could go to http://pgl.yoyo.org/luai/i/next instead of the manual section you pasted) |
| 22:42.14 | bleeter | Do you guys think we'll ever see a realm selected tabbed by timezones and with ping times? Ocurred to me that as the 'population' label is only relative to other realms in the same battlegroup, the info as currently presented is a little useless. |
| 22:43.08 | foxlit | Any reasonable way to recover from adding an entry, then? |
| 22:44.20 | End | you could write a program to sort by ping/timezones probably |
| 22:44.35 | End | actually, maybe not, they probably do block ping :P |
| 22:46.41 | cladhaire | foxlit: you have to delay add it |
| 22:46.57 | cladhaire | or write a custom iterator around next() |
| 22:47.02 | cladhaire | that tracks where you've been |
| 22:47.05 | cladhaire | and where you haven't. |
| 22:47.19 | cladhaire | sorry to be so adamant, but I knew you were adding something :P |
| 22:49.43 | wereHamster | Fin, did you make http://pgl.yoyo.org/luai/i/about ? |
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| 22:50.28 | Nom_ | http://www.mmogchart.com/Chart7.html <-- lol! |
| 22:50.58 | Fin | wereHamster: yes |
| 22:51.11 | Thunder_Child | anyone know how to set the accept button in VB? |
| 22:51.29 | Nargiddley | which vb ? |
| 22:51.34 | Thunder_Child | 2k5 |
| 22:51.35 | foxlit | cladhaire: someone knows too much! |
| 22:51.37 | zenzelezz | EQ/EQ2 really that small? |
| 22:51.46 | wereHamster | Fin, before or after wow came out? eg. did you make it because you were writing wow addons? |
| 22:51.47 | cladhaire | O.o |
| 22:51.59 | foxlit | I wonder why it worked before, too |
| 22:52.14 | foxlit | Or maybe not |
| 22:52.26 | foxlit | Removing a key -> adding the same key back before next is called again counts as modifying the key? |
| 22:52.58 | JoshBorke | foxlit: yes |
| 22:53.01 | Nargiddley | Thunder_Child: AcceptButton property on the form |
| 22:53.10 | foxlit | or, rather, modifying the value of the key |
| 22:53.25 | JoshBorke | erm, nvm, i misread |
| 22:54.03 | JoshBorke | foxlit: you're saying <next> t[key] = nil; t[key] = <some value>; <next>? |
| 22:54.04 | Thunder_Child | Nargiddley, got it, thanks |
| 22:54.35 | End | foxlit: it might rebuild the hash table |
| 22:54.41 | End | it only does it on adds |
| 22:54.42 | foxlit | for k, v in pairs(someArray) ... someArray[k] = nil; ... someArray[k] = newValue; ... end |
| 22:54.54 | End | so if you remove a bunch, and then add, it might rebuild it |
| 22:55.15 | JoshBorke | end: i didn't know it only did it on adds... |
| 22:55.37 | Taeri | Any voluenteers(?) for tummystroking? >__0 |
| 22:55.55 | End | (at least, I think that's how it works) |
| 22:58.20 | Taeri | my tummy huuurts |
| 22:58.34 | Taeri | it needs gentle strokings from warm hand. |
| 22:58.39 | End | sorry, Taeri, all I have is this WALRUS |
| 22:58.40 | Taeri | and the boyfriend is far far away |
| 22:58.42 | JoshBorke | lua> t={['fred']='george',['bob']='jane',['dog']='cat'} local k; repeat k, v = next(t, k) if k == 'dog' then t['fred'] = nil; t['bob'] = nil; else print(k) end until not k for k, v in pairs(t) do print(k) end <-- why doesn't it hit the other keys then? |
| 22:58.42 | lua_bot | JoshBorke: sandbox.lua:298: Compilation failed: [string "t={['fred']='george',['bob']='jane',['dog']='cat'} local k; rep..."]:1: unexpected symbol near '<' |
| 22:58.47 | JoshBorke | lua> t={['fred']='george',['bob']='jane',['dog']='cat'} local k; repeat k, v = next(t, k) if k == 'dog' then t['fred'] = nil; t['bob'] = nil; else print(k) end until not k for k, v in pairs(t) do print(k) end -- why doesn't it hit the other keys then? |
| 22:58.47 | lua_bot | JoshBorke: nil, dog |
| 22:59.09 | Taeri | End: you took the bucket and gave it away, and now you want to give away the owner of the bucket too?! ;__; |
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| 23:01.32 | Duman | sigh |
| 23:01.47 | Duman | http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v166/247/27/3305140/n3305140_36795247_7716.jpg |
| 23:02.11 | JoshBorke | Duman: that's no good |
| 23:02.12 | End | JoshBorke: I'm not sure what you are asking? |
| 23:02.28 | End | of course it removes them...it just doesn't reorder/resize them |
| 23:02.32 | Duman | damn winds |
| 23:02.38 | JoshBorke | ok, nvm then |
| 23:02.40 | JoshBorke | i'm just dumb |
| 23:03.36 | End | (the reordering is what foxlit cares about) |
| 23:03.49 | End | (obviously) |
| 23:04.48 | wereHamster | foxlit, why don't you create a new table? much easier than trying to figure out how you could do it using only one table.. |
| 23:04.49 | Lunessa | stroking of the tummies is invariably dangerous. |
| 23:05.10 | End | particularly when you are trying to stroke using a walrus |
| 23:05.15 | End | too big and tusky |
| 23:05.24 | foxlit | wereHamster: still trying to figure out what would work in the context |
| 23:05.41 | foxlit | But it just might be a brilliant idea :) |
| 23:07.12 | foxlit | Going to be a GC fest, but hey, easier than anything else :) |
| 23:07.38 | wereHamster | as long as you don't make it in OnUpdate you should be fine |
| 23:08.08 | Taeri | Lunessa: ? :o |
| 23:08.21 | foxlit | It's my IRC bot code rather than WoW code; the loops in question iterate over registered "event" handlers |
| 23:08.25 | Lunessa | you get your fingers bitten when the kitteh has had enuf |
| 23:08.40 | Taeri | I am not a kitty! |
| 23:09.40 | End | depends on the cat really |
| 23:09.51 | Lunessa | In which case, stroking your tummy probably leads to being shot by jealous b/f. |
| 23:10.29 | Taeri | Naaaah |
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| 23:12.25 | Taeri | I've shared beds with guys without the boyfriend saying too much about it. |
| 23:12.35 | Taeri | (nnothing more than sharing beds, no naughty going on. :P ) |
| 23:14.33 | zenzelezz | uh huh |
| 23:14.50 | Lunessa | stroking of the tummies would cross the line me thinks. |
| 23:14.57 | Lunessa | And on that note, O' |
| 23:15.04 | Lunessa | I'm out fo the night. |
| 23:15.10 | Taeri | I stroked the guys I was sharing beds with XD |
| 23:15.26 | Taeri | cuddlylike. :P but no naughty. :P |
| 23:16.20 | zenzelezz | suuure... |
| 23:16.49 | Taeri | Even tho I cuddle other guys, doesn't mean I do naughty bedthings with them. :p |
| 23:16.55 | zenzelezz | maybe from your perspective; from a guy's perspective there is no non-naughty stroking |
| 23:17.13 | Taeri | my boyfriend was fine with it. |
| 23:17.17 | [dRaCo] | depends on what you're stroking o0 |
| 23:17.27 | laindir | I disagree, stroking above the navel is non-naughty |
| 23:17.37 | Taeri | laindir: *nodnod* |
| 23:17.45 | deltron | sticking finger in navel -_- |
| 23:17.59 | Taeri | I kept it above navel, what I did after I fell asleep, no one knows. |
| 23:18.05 | laindir | hehe |
| 23:18.13 | laindir | sharing beds for the win |
| 23:18.40 | Cide | "above" or "below" the navel is irrelevant imo |
| 23:18.43 | Taeri | there's like... fuzzie warm bodies and a comfy bed, instead of sleeping on sofas. :P I'd choose the fuzzie warm bodies and comfy bed. :P |
| 23:18.48 | Cide | but there are lots of ways to stroke someone |
| 23:18.56 | Cide | which is what matters |
| 23:20.16 | Taeri | depends on the person and way of stroking I guess. |
| 23:20.55 | Taeri | I hear my strokes are very teasing, no matter where on the body they are >__> but no matter, I did not mean to tease peoples, and they knew this, so just enjoyed the smeepy Taeri strokes |
| 23:21.02 | laindir | that's opening up a whole other can of subjectivity |
| 23:21.28 | Cide | laindir: right, but I don't think there's an objective way to measure naughtiness of stroking :P |
| 23:21.28 | laindir | intent has to be the defining feature in my opinion, and that's clearly left up to the stroker |
| 23:21.41 | Cide | that's still subjective though |
| 23:22.03 | Cide | but if the strokee feels like the stroker is stroking naughtily, does the intent matter? |
| 23:22.21 | laindir | cide, matter to whom? ~.^ |
| 23:23.25 | Cide | well, that depends, I suppose |
| 23:23.46 | Taeri | I like to stroke, people like getting stroked, if it feels naughty, and they know it's not supposed to be, they don't try to do anything back, and just enjoy strokes, and everyone is happeh! |
| 23:24.05 | Cide | right, if both persons know the intent |
| 23:24.08 | Cide | no harm done |
| 23:24.12 | laindir | agreed |
| 23:24.13 | wereHamster | 0.o interesting topic you're discussing here, this channel is always good for a surprise.. and a bit entertainment |
| 23:24.32 | deltron | lol |
| 23:24.32 | Cide | well, unless the significant other is a jealous bitch |
| 23:24.36 | Cide | in which case wii have a problem |
| 23:24.52 | Taeri | my bf is not jealous at all. |
| 23:24.53 | End | apparently that's not a problem in Taeri's case though |
| 23:25.25 | Cide | that's good - I wouldn't be able to stand a jealous bf myself :/ |
| 23:25.38 | Cide | fortunately mine isn't jealous at all |
| 23:25.39 | Taeri | he even suggested I sleep in the same bed as a visitor I have, so I'd sleep more comfy. :P But I didn't feel comfertable doing this since this is the first time I have met this person, irl. |
| 23:25.40 | Thunder_Child | dont know till you try |
| 23:26.18 | laindir | snuggling > all |
| 23:27.02 | Taeri | all eats snuggling? :P (the teacher had a weird way of explaining the > and < in school, and I remember it wrong to this day... :P ) |
| 23:27.18 | laindir | XD |
| 23:27.28 | laindir | snuggling (greater than) all |
| 23:27.44 | Taeri | Yeah, but I still have to think twice everytime. |
| 23:27.48 | Cide | just look at the siiiiiiize |
| 23:28.07 | laindir | big end -> bit thing... small end... small thing |
| 23:28.17 | laindir | *big thing |
| 23:28.19 | Cide | the left-hand side is infinitely larger than the very tip of the right-hand side |
| 23:28.20 | Taeri | *nodnod* |
| 23:28.29 | Cide | (vector-representation assumed; not accurate for pixels) |
| 23:29.16 | Taeri | guh, I wanna go home to non-jelous boyfriend. |
| 23:29.31 | laindir | awwww :( |
| 23:29.47 | Taeri | I am ill, and I need his comfort! :o |
| 23:30.06 | Cide | call him and cry |
| 23:30.11 | Cide | get him on the next flight |
| 23:30.15 | Thunder_Child | Cide, thats just mean |
| 23:30.16 | laindir | does he live far away? |
| 23:31.50 | Taeri | He's about 500km away atm |
| 23:32.02 | Taeri | I'm home visiting my family, and showing my australian friend who's visiting snow! |
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| 23:32.20 | laindir | ewwie :( |
| 23:32.47 | Thunder_Child | your friend is visting snow? |
| 23:32.50 | laindir | I know how you feel though, my girlfriend is about 1400km away |
| 23:32.51 | Thunder_Child | ok... |
| 23:33.05 | Taeri | Thunder_Child: I r not guud at the english |
| 23:33.15 | Thunder_Child | Taeri, an i r an asshole |
| 23:33.20 | Thunder_Child | i was just playing around |
| 23:33.26 | Taeri | He's not seen snow since he was like.. 2 years old. |
| 23:33.36 | Taeri | And he's not seen lots of it. And he has also been skiing. |
| 23:33.54 | Taeri | laindir: that's lots and lots. :o |
| 23:34.02 | laindir | yus :( |
| 23:34.03 | zenzelezz | Taeri: when TC gets mean, just throw a pun at him |
| 23:34.14 | Thunder_Child | speaking of mean.... |
| 23:34.27 | Taeri | I can take mean! |
| 23:36.04 | Thunder_Child | but zenzelezz cant |
| 23:36.11 | Thunder_Child | he gets defensive |
| 23:36.43 | zenzelezz | I don't get defensive, I get trollish |
| 23:37.00 | Taeri | which is even worse. :o |
| 23:37.00 | Thunder_Child | well thats not good |
| 23:37.11 | zenzelezz | I never claimed it was good |
| 23:37.53 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/340515/area-man-parks-car-on-house-roof-tells-police-gps-made-me-do-it |
| 23:38.06 | Thunder_Child | ""I told him [Sheriff Furillo] that my GPS made me do it. I was just driving when the nice sexy voice inside the box told me to turn left while I was driving through the bridge on Frisco and 62nd," said McFarlan after being released by the police. "She was like, come on, do it. Do it! Dooooo iiiit!!!"" |
| 23:43.23 | Fin | is it, "Steamvaults" or "The Steam Vault" or "Steam Vaults"? |
| 23:43.34 | [dRaCo] | The Steam Vault |
| 23:43.37 | Fin | or some other similar term |
| 23:44.06 | wereHamster | Thunder_Child, "45-year-old computer analyst and part-time fabric designer" - I wouldn't have expceted that from him, he seems educated |
| 23:44.39 | Fin | they've spelled it "Steam Vaults" in the LFG interface |
| 23:44.56 | Fin | Wowhead has it as The Steam Vault |
| 23:45.07 | Fin | er, sorry, The Steamvault |
| 23:45.14 | Fin | no, d'oh, that's Thottbot |
| 23:45.28 | Thunder_Child | wereHamster, i know, i was thinking the same thing...guess no |
| 23:45.32 | Fin | ... and Wowhead |
| 23:45.32 | Thunder_Child | t |
| 23:45.48 | cogwheel | does FF turn off gif animation when you have a bunch of tabs open on purpose or is this a bug? |
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| 23:46.22 | Thunder_Child | sounds like a bug cogwheel, i dont have that |
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| 23:50.54 | bleeter | cogwheel: fwiw, pressing escape stops GIF anims in FF, maybe you did that? |
| 23:51.22 | cogwheel | bleeter: why would it do that? isn't Escape supposed to stop loading a page? |
| 23:51.49 | bleeter | cogwheel: I'm only looking at behaviour after the page is loaded. |
| 23:52.11 | cogwheel | seems like a really stupid "feature" to give escape two meanings just depending on whether a page is loading or not... |
| 23:52.15 | bleeter | it'd appear that loading a new page with new anims restarts them, and pressing escape on an old tab or the new tab (after it's loaded) once again stops anim |
| 23:52.21 | cogwheel | pressing sc again doesn't start them... |
| 23:52.34 | cogwheel | esc* |
| 23:54.19 | bleeter | cogwheel: I think the inconsistency is that the 'stop' button becomes disabled after loading, thus isn |
| 23:54.30 | bleeter | 't 'the same' on pressing escape as stopping |
| 23:54.38 | bleeter | gah, vagueness ftw.. hope you get my meaning |
| 23:58.34 | Fin | is there a function to set the camera pitch? |
| 23:58.40 | bleeter | cogwheel: curiosity. do you get to mention your MvP status in the book? |
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